Claremont serial killings

[David_Lohr]

Serial killer the culprit

The Post
10/07/06

The disbanding of the police forensic unit had its roots in the cold case review of the Claremont serial killings.

Last week's announcement came out of the blue to everyone except POST readers.

The POST had been recording for three years the botches and bungles in local murder cases that have reached the courts.

Police Commissioner Karl O'Callaghan announced the forensic unit's demise ahead of the release of the cold case review into the Pamela Lawrence murder in Mosman Park in 1994 (report page 9).

Full Story:
http://www.postnewspapers.com.au/200...news/006.shtml

[Belangalo]

Thursday 28 August Crime Investigation Channel had a one hour Crime Scene Australia Doco on Claremont below is the following from the programe

(1) Sarah Spiers makes phone call for taxi she is seen by three mens at a set of traffic light they think about asking her if she is alright before they are able to do so the light changes green as they drive through the intersection the driver notices car lights approaching in the distance , the driver informs the police the car in the distance never crosses the intersection. A short time later taxi arrives Sarah Spiers isn't there.
Nots: Taxi is not is not the car in the distance.

(2) Three men eating takeaway see Ciara Glennon walking along Stirling Highway one yells out to you shouldn't hitchhike she turns and waves,she is seen by same three men leaning forward speaking to someone in a white satation rego not known make-model unknown , a short time later while eating one man looks up to see both Ciara and vechile police later say that witnesess interviewed still report seeing Ciara walking along the Highway well after the white car incident.

(3) Jane Rimmer and three frinds leave a night club friendsd catch taxi home jane stay's , she is seen on multiple surveliance camera's outside Continental Hotel all people in camera footage are ID by police and cleared except for man with back to camera as he approaches Jane she smiles as he approaches he has never been ID and police want him come forward. Seeing the footage the last time you see her see looks at her watch the camera changes to another direction 28 sec later camera comes back to her direction she is gone , the stupid part is footage has never been released until Thursday.

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[cmb]

The WA police forensics unit was so flippin' useless that they have discounted the possibility that the murderer may still be active in the area. No more women have disappeared from the suburb of Claremont, but women continue to disappear or be discovered murdered from Perth in general. Apparently there have been about 18, including Jane Cutler (1988), Sarah McMahon, and more recently Corryn Rayney. Corryn and Sarah went missing with their cars, which then turned up in strange places around the city.

You can tell a lot from the footage of Clare Rimmer outside the Continental. Her body language indicates someone who's feeling happy and excited. She's tossing her hair back, and her response to that man suggests that she may have known him. It suggests someone fairly young and charming.

[SaraSidle]

Does Western Australia have a lot of serial killers and unsolved murders?

[Belangalo]

Unsure about unsolved murders in WA i'll try searching tomorrow, as far as serial killers,outside of the Claremont killer. Eric Edgar Cooke 1958-1963 seven victims he was the last person hung in Freemantle Prison. In the 1980s David and Catherine Birnie four victims known as the Moorehouse murders both sentenced to life unsure of the year David Birnie committed suicide.

[Belangalo]

Shirley Finn Brothel Madam Perth WA shot 23 June 1975 body was found in pafrked car next to South Perth golf course , on the 30th anniversary of the murder June 23 2005 a cold case review of the murder was announced general opinion by some was that no further leads were possible.

After retiring as of Perth CIB , Don Hancock purchased the tiny pub at Ora Banda near Kalgoorlie. In October 2000 members of the Gypsy Jokers motorcycle gang entered the pub and started to abuse the barmaid , who was hancock's daughter , after which he threw them out. Later that night one of the bikies William Grierson was shot dead as he sat around the camp fire.

In September 2001 , Hancock returning from a Perth horse racing meeting with book-maker friend Lou Lewis drove into his driveway.

A massive carbomb planted under the car at the race meeting , was remotely detonated and exploded , killing both men instantly.

Police believe that the bombing was a payback by motorcycle gang members for Grierson's murder.

Gerard Ross 11-years -old abducted from Perth suburb Rockingham , 12-10-97 during a family holiday.

Gerard was roller blading to the shops whe he was taken , his body was found 15 days later.

[dan_uk]

claremont serial killer

In October 2006, it was announced that Mark Dixie (AKA Shane Turner), who was convicted in the United Kingdom for the 2005 murder of 18-year-old model Sally Anne Bowman, is a prime suspect in the killings, and the WA Police's Macro Taskforce has requested DNA samples from Dixie to test against evidence taken during the enquiry.

[Belangalo]

Possible Claremont Victims

Kerry Tate, 22 , body burnt on tre stump , December 1979 murdered.

Lisa Mott , 12, last seen in Collie , October 1980 , missing.

Sharon Fulton , East Perth Railway Station , 1986 missing.

Cheryl Renwick , 33 , disappeared from South Perth Unit , 26 May 1986 missing.

Sally Greenham , 20 , August 1987 , Adelaide Terrace Perth , missing.

Julie Cutler , 22 , last seen at Parmelia Hilton Hotel , 20 June 1988 , car found in surf Missing.

Barbara Westorn , found in bushland north-east of Canning Dam , Perth , murdered.

Kelly Turner , 18 , body found near Canning Dam , July 1991 murdered.

Radina Dujkid , 14 , last seen at her North Beach Unit , 16 May 1992 , missing.

Cariad Anderson-Slater , 41 , last seen at dawn exiting a taxi in Perth , 13 July 1992.

Petronella Albert , 21 , Broome area , 17 July 1992 missing.

Hayley Dodd , Badgingarra , 17 July , 1999 missing.

Lisa Govan , 28 , last seen at 7.30am , Kalgoorlie , 8 October 1999 , missing.

Deborah Anderson last seen January 25 January 2000 , car found burning with body in front seat at Middle Swan Shopping Centre , murdered.

Sarah McMahon , 20 , last seen in Claremont , November 8 , 2000 , her car was found unlocked in hospital car park , November 20 , missing.

Lisa Brown , 19 , street prostitute , last seen on a Perth Street at 12.30am , November 10 1998 , missing.

Darylyn Ugle , 25 , street prostitute , body found at Mundaring Weir , April 2003 murdered.

[SaraSidle]

Possible Claremont Victims

Kerry Tate, 22 , body burnt on tre stump , December 1979 murdered.

Lisa Mott , 12, last seen in Collie , October 1980 , missing.

Sharon Fulton , East Perth Railway Station , 1986 missing.

Cheryl Renwick , 33 , disappeared from South Perth Unit , 26 May 1986 missing.

Sally Greenham , 20 , August 1987 , Adelaide Terrace Perth , missing.

Julie Cutler , 22 , last seen at Parmelia Hilton Hotel , 20 June 1988 , car found in surf Missing.

Barbara Westorn , found in bushland north-east of Canning Dam , Perth , murdered.

Kelly Turner , 18 , body found near Canning Dam , July 1991 murdered.

Radina Dujkid , 14 , last seen at her North Beach Unit , 16 May 1992 , missing.

Cariad Anderson-Slater , 41 , last seen at dawn exiting a taxi in Perth , 13 July 1992.

Petronella Albert , 21 , Broome area , 17 July 1992 missing.

Hayley Dodd , Badgingarra , 17 July , 1999 missing.

Lisa Govan , 28 , last seen at 7.30am , Kalgoorlie , 8 October 1999 , missing.

Deborah Anderson last seen January 25 January 2000 , car found burning with body in front seat at Middle Swan Shopping Centre , murdered.

Sarah McMahon , 20 , last seen in Claremont , November 8 , 2000 , her car was found unlocked in hospital car park , November 20 , missing.

Lisa Brown , 19 , street prostitute , last seen on a Perth Street at 12.30am , November 10 1998 , missing.

Darylyn Ugle , 25 , street prostitute , body found at Mundaring Weir , April 2003 murdered.

that is an awful lot of work belangelo. I hope there is lots of closure. sara

[Serial Killer X]

They are hopeless and these murders will probably never be solved.

[SaraSidle]

They are hopeless and these murders will probably never be solved.

You may be right but I certainly hope not. that is a lot of victims and families need closure.........sara

[Dick Tracy]

Hi Belangalo and Sarah. I've had a fair bit to do with this case for many years, including a recent visit from the "Special Crime Squad" who are now investigating the Claremont case. We hear a lot of criticism here in Western Australia regarding the handling of this case, which i believe is unfair to the W.A. Police Department. There have been several independant reviews performed by detectives from other states of Australia, together with American and British experts, with none shedding any more light on the killings than our own home grown detectives.
The crime scenes of the two victims who have been found, had been disturbed by severe rain and storms etc, which left little hope of any evidence being found. It is also believed that the victims were murdered elsewhere, another reason for the lack of evidence at the scenes.

[billy ransom]

Interesting stuff.

I'm following this from the Eastern States so I'm not completely up to date. I have a few obvious questions:

1. The press claim that the police believe Julie Cutler was the first victim (car driven off Cott groyne). Is this true? If so:

a) How did they come to this conclusion without Julie Cutler's body? You'd assume the killer did something or left something that was unique to the other 3 girls. Given we know little about the 3 Claremont killings, and Julie Cutler's body has never been found, what could this be?

b) Do the police believe there are other victims and if so, who?

2. The 3 Claremont killings happened within 6 months or so. How did the killer stop? Did he move overseas? Did he die? Could he be in prison (ie do they take DNA of all inmates these days?)

3. What happened to the English guy mark Dixie? Can I assume his DNA came back -ve? And wasn't there another English guy who was a suspect?

[taboo]

I saw somewhere that since shows like CSI have come out killers and thieves etc have become alot more aware of what NOT to leave behind which is even more trickier

[crafty]

There is also this site running on trutv as well re the Claremont Murders.
http://boards.library.trutv.com/show...ight=claremont

[billy ransom]

I am Curious Cat if anyone wants to PM me. The other thread is good but lacks privacy (ie PM function)

[crafty]

Forgot about this thread going. Check out this charming serial killer song;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dq-ef...eo&playnext=30