Preliminary Hearing

[TobyTiger]

Originally posted by LNL
:lol:

I don't think the aggression noted in #8 would fit with premeditated murder.

How long ago did he have menigitis?

I remember it being mentioned in one of the news articles, but don't think it was that recent. I'll try to find the article in my 'murder book'...

[TobyTiger]

"Mack in 2002 also had suffered from Meningitis and nearly died, Winn said. Charla, again, supported Mack during that time. They became very close following his recovery, she said."

(According to Kathleen Winn, a mortgage broker and personal friend.)

-from the Reno Gazette Journal, "FBI gets fugitive warrant for Mack, joins search" 06/16/06.

[LNL]

Thanks, Toby.

[TobyTiger]

Originally posted by LNL
Thanks, Toby.

You're welcome! I don't think that defense will work either, if it is even attempted. Perhaps his attorney is going to try for more along what Darren's cousin stated originally, that he "snapped".

[chambord]

Originally posted by TobyTiger

I actually never had thought of that illness producing long-term neurological disorders which could manifest into this type of homicide. Time to go study...

Let us know what you find Toby. That's a new one for me.

[chambord]

Originally posted by chambord



Let us know what you find Toby. That's a new one for me.

Oops, I see you already did your research Toby. Thanks.

#8..Temper Tantrums, huh, do we count almost slitting one's throat a *temper tantrum*.


moo

[TobyTiger]

Originally posted by chambord



Oops, I see you already did your research Toby. Thanks.

#8..Temper Tantrums, huh, do we count almost slitting one's throat a *temper tantrum*.


moo

I actually think the temper tantrums were for children who had meningitis! I'm not a medical expert, but I just don't see the connection...

[magpie1]

I strongly doubt the prosecution, law enforcement, or anyone else in this case is manufacturing evidence.

Depositions are taken after the crime and it's only human nature that after the immediate threat is over and the excitment has died down, a witness will recall what happened in more detail.

Also, this is a media report, and for all we know the brown paper bag has been known, but not reported by the media, as they might not have thought it was an important detail. Same is true about the dog being found in Charla's car. The dog being in Charla's car doesn't change the circumstances at all.

It's ludicrous to think that just because something hasn't been reported in previous media reports that it's somehow proof of manufactured evidence.

This is, of course, MO

[GollyGeeWhiz]

Originally posted by pussycat


Yep. No one from the prosecution can ever tell the same story twice. Or the same story as the other person. Glad you picked up on that too, magpie.

'Hey, wha' da you guys think? I think we need to add something. Maybe a bag...'

'Yeah... that sounds good. How 'bout another dog, too.?!'

'Good idea. You never know. If we can't get the murder rap to stick maybe we can at least get him on cruelty to animals....for leaving the mutt in the back seat for so long.'

You're killin me Mr. Cat!

I sincerely appreciate the first-hand look you're giving us at how conspiracy theories are born and take root in imaginative minds.

Highly entertaining, are you!

[NevadaMom]

Originally posted by GollyGeeWhiz


You're killin me Mr. Cat!

I sincerely appreciate the first-hand look you're giving us at how conspiracy theories are born and take root in imaginative minds.

Highly entertaining, are you!

Let's say the police wanted to protect DM. Let's just consider his actions as reported by witnesses and video tape. Even if the police were trying to PROTECT him rather than frame him or mess with the evidence, I don't see how he could be found innocent. He did enough on his own to convince a jury.

[TobyTiger]

Originally posted by NevadaMom


Let's say the police wanted to protect DM. Let's just consider his actions as reported by witnesses and video tape. Even if the police were trying to PROTECT him rather than frame him or mess with the evidence, I don't see how he could be found innocent. He did enough on his own to convince a jury.

His own friend, Dan Osborne, was at the condo when Charla was killed in the garage; and immediately became suspicious that something had happened to her when Mack re-entered the house with a towel wrapped around his hand and Osborne's dog was covered in blood. He just testified at the Preliminary Hearing this week...

[NevadaMom]

Originally posted by TobyTiger

His own friend, Dan Osborne, was at the condo when Charla was killed in the garage; and immediately became suspicious that something had happened to her when Mack re-entered the house with a towel wrapped around his hand and Osborne's dog was covered in blood. He just testified at the Preliminary Hearing this week...

The night before the shooting and stabbing, DM asked DO to come over, coincidentally at the same time CM was to arrive with their daughter. There is the video of his type of Ford Explorer leaving the townhome complex at the time DO said he did. DM changed clothes after DO saw him that morning with the towel wrapped around his hand. There's the bloody dog who was in the same room with DM (the dog could have planted that blood on himself - mine has done it several times). There's CM's car moved into the townhome garage (although the police might have later done that even though DO said it was no longer visible when he left the townhome. They could have also planted the blood in her car/on her keys - wonder whose blood they planted?). There's the video of DM's type of Ford Explorer in the parking garage at the time of the judge's shooting, backing into a spot facing the courthouse, hatch opens/closes, drives out of the parking garage. There's the blood on his clothing/stuff (oh, wait, that could have been planted), and DM's suddenly leaving the country (ya' never know when you might run across a swinger's convention - gotta' be at the ready). There's the rental of the Ford Explorer when he already had two cars (circumstantial, probably). There's CM telling others that DM would someday kill her (possibly heresay). There's the gunshot wound to the judge that matches the kind of gun DM had. There's the empty sheath of DM's whose knife matches CM's injuries. There are two people killed or injured within hours of each other for whom DM had gross hatred.

If it looks like a duck and walks like a duck...

[TobyTiger]

Nevada Mom -

That's already enough for most juries...in fact less evidence than that existed for Scott Peterson.

[GollyGeeWhiz]

Originally posted by NevadaMom


The night before the shooting and stabbing, DM asked DO to come over, coincidentally at the same time CM was to arrive with their daughter. There is the video of his type of Ford Explorer leaving the townhome complex at the time DO said he did. DM changed clothes after DO saw him that morning with the towel wrapped around his hand. There's the bloody dog who was in the same room with DM (the dog could have planted that blood on himself - mine has done it several times). There's CM's car moved into the townhome garage (although the police might have later done that even though DO said it was no longer visible when he left the townhome. They could have also planted the blood in her car/on her keys - wonder whose blood they planted?). There's the video of DM's type of Ford Explorer in the parking garage at the time of the judge's shooting, backing into a spot facing the courthouse, hatch opens/closes, drives out of the parking garage. There's the blood on his clothing/stuff (oh, wait, that could have been planted), and DM's suddenly leaving the country (ya' never know when you might run across a swinger's convention - gotta' be at the ready). There's the rental of the Ford Explorer when he already had two cars (circumstantial, probably). There's CM telling others that DM would someday kill her (possibly heresay). There's the gunshot wound to the judge that matches the kind of gun DM had. There's the empty sheath of DM's whose knife matches CM's injuries. There are two people killed or injured within hours of each other for whom DM had gross hatred.

If it looks like a duck and walks like a duck...

[SIZE=4]... it's a flipping DUCK.[/SIZE]

Let's see ... DM had the MOTIVE, the OPPORTUNITY, and left a trail virtually dripping with evidence from his condo to the parking garage all the way to Mexico.

[SIZE=4]QUACK![/size]

[magpie1]

[SIZE=3]GGW and All..............[/SIZE]
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[magpie1]

Okay, Okay.....I know, it's a chicken, but I couldn't find a duck!

[TobyTiger]

Originally posted by magpie1
Okay, Okay.....I know, it's a chicken, but I couldn't find a duck!

A chicken is also appropriate in this case...
AFLAC!!

[magpie1]

[GollyGeeWhiz]

Originally posted by magpie1
[SIZE=3]GGW and All..............[/SIZE]
[IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...hick_moves.gif[/IMG]

[TobyTiger]

CONTENTS OF EXHIBITS UNVEILED

The medical records for Judge Chuck Weller, autopsy photos of Charla Mack and photos of both crime scenes were among 30 exhibits presented as evidence during the Aug. 30 preliminary hearing in Reno Justice Court...and the Reno Gazette-Journal had an exclusive viewing of the 30 exhibits late Thursday (Nov. 16).

(article at link)

[dan_uk]

UPDATE

Herndon sentenced Mack to life in prison for murdering his wife. He also gave Mack the maximum sentences for the attempted murder of Judge Chuck Weller and a deadly weapon enhancement. The sentences run consecutively, rendering Mack ineligible for parole for at least 36 years. Another hearing on his arguments was scheduled for April 2008.

On March 18, 2008, a Washoe County jury delivered a $590 million settlement against Mack in the wrongful death lawsuit of his wife, Charla. $560 million was awarded to the couple's young daughter, Erika, while the rest will go to his wife's estate.