Michael Tracey & the emails [m]

[~Leslie~]

I can't find his name anywhere in these threads. Is it true that he is about to release a book on the case? He was corresponding with Karr for 4 years and turned him in just before his book is due to be released? Am I getting this right? Anyone know his name? Please feel free to correct me or merge this where it belongs. TIA.

[Chevalier]

I haven't really seen a lot on this guy and the only place I heard that about him releasing a book soon was from Wendy Murphy during a big ol' tirade.

[KittyMom]

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,208999,00.html

This is what fox is reporting.

Ramsey attorney Wood said Karr had tried to correspond with Patsy Ramsey in the months before her death. Ramsey did not reply, but handed the information over to investigators, helping to link Karr to the case, Wood said.

[~Leslie~]

Originally posted by Chevalier
I haven't really seen a lot on this guy and the only place I heard that about him releasing a book soon was from Wendy Murphy during a big ol' tirade.

Well .. I certainly hope this isn't some publicity stunt on his part.
Is that what Wendy was insinuating?

[rrsafety]

his name is Michael Tracey

[LI_Mom]

Michael Tracey was emailing Karr.

He's the one who did the pro-Ramsey documentary in the UK.


I don't know anything about a new book he might be publishing but this certainly is great advertising for him, isn't it?

If that's true, it makes me wonder if he might have even fed Karr some inside info just so the arrest would be made & the media paying attention to the case again.

[msgatorslayer]

Forgive me for not knowing which show I heard this on because I've watched so many this evening that I cannot remember. But I heard that this Michael Tracey had been searching for a publisher and was having a hard time. Nobody wanted the story.

[Chevalier]

Originally posted by ~Leslie~


Well .. I certainly hope this isn't some publicity stunt on his part.
Is that what Wendy was insinuating?

Big time insinuating and she cut the Ramsey's no slack. I think she was on Chris Matthews' Hardball on MSNBC. Not like Chris to cover this story as he's pretty hard core politics, but I think he did spend a little time on it today.

[LexieRae]

Someone tried to interview him yesterday..the professor?? And he wouldn't answer any questions. He just kept saying 'innocent until proven guilty'. And 'no, I will not answer any questions about any e-mails or anything about the investigation.' He did not seem like he was seeking publicity, in my opinion.

[awareness]

Michael Tracey also was helm of that 2004 show on JBR.

[LexieRae]

Originally posted by Chevalier
I haven't really seen a lot on this guy and the only place I heard that about him releasing a book soon was from Wendy Murphy during a big ol' tirade.

I am sorry, but Wendy, in my opinion, has become SO bad, I have to mute my TV when she comes on. She keeps getting worse every year. Is it just me?

[Louisadelmar]

Originally posted by LexieRae


I am sorry, but Wendy, in my opinion, has become SO bad, I have to mute my TV when she comes on. She keeps getting worse every year. Is it just me?

No, she has gotten worse every year.

[~Leslie~]

Originally posted by LexieRae
Someone tried to interview him yesterday..the professor?? And he wouldn't answer any questions. He just kept saying 'innocent until proven guilty'. And 'no, I will not answer any questions about any e-mails or anything about the investigation.' He did not seem like he was seeking publicity, in my opinion.

Well I'm sure you're right that he may not have wanted publicity today ... But boy can you imagine anyone interested in the case who WOULDN'T buy the book written by the very man who corresponded with the suspect for 4 years? ... I can't.

[~Leslie~]

Originally posted by Chevalier
Big time insinuating and she cut the Ramsey's no slack. I think she was on Chris Matthews' Hardball on MSNBC. Not like Chris to cover this story as he's pretty hard core politics, but I think he did spend a little time on it today.

Thanks Chev ... I always think of Wendy along the same lines as Ann Coulter .. sort of like she's chewing her own face when she talks ...

[Icefog]

According to this story, after becomming leary Tracy contacted a PI Ollie Gray who was working for the Ramseys. Ollie Gray said "We encouraged (Tracey) to continue to communicate with him on it"


It goes on to say that they informed the DA of it and that and that the were reluctant until Gray was on the verge of going to Paris, where Karr was believed to have been, to confront Karr himself.

Prosecutors interviewed Tracey in June and “then they got damn serious in a big hurry,” Gray said.

http://www.nationalledger.com/artman...27267773.shtml


Sounds to me like the guy didn't do anything wrong. He didn't go to the media, he went to the Ramsey's PI

[LI_Mom]

Originally posted by Icefog
According to this story, after becomming leary Tracy contacted a PI Ollie Gray who was working for the Ramseys. Ollie Gray said "We encouraged (Tracey) to continue to communicate with him on it"


It goes on to say that they informed the DA of it and that and that the were reluctant until Gray was on the verge of going to Paris, where Karr was believed to have been, to confront Karr himself.

Prosecutors interviewed Tracey in June and “then they got damn serious in a big hurry,” Gray said.

http://www.nationalledger.com/artman...27267773.shtml


Sounds to me like the guy didn't do anything wrong. He didn't go to the media, he went to the Ramsey's PI

I hope Tracey didn't do anything wrong.

But they better have something good on Karr because what we've heard of & from him so far hasn't convinced many people he was involved.


And people closely connected to the Ramseys (sister & lawyers) look VERY dejected today as opposed to how they looked last night.

[Susan43]

Originally posted by Louisadelmar


No, she has gotten worse every year.

She sure has, thank goodness for remotes.

[Icefog]

Originally posted by LI_Mom


I hope Tracey didn't do anything wrong.

But they better have something good on Karr because what we've heard of & from him so far hasn't convinced many people he was involved.


And people closely connected to the Ramseys (sister & lawyers) look VERY dejected today as opposed to how they looked last night.

At this point nothing short of a DNA match on the evidence under her fingernails and on her underwear will do. IMO

[Aletta]

Here's another article involving Tracy.

http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drm...923202,00.html

"Michael Tracey was instrumental in this investigation," said Susan Stine, a close and longtime Ramsey family friend who spent considerable time with them through Patsy Ramsey's losing battle with cancer.

"He was instrumental in flushing this person out in the sense of getting him to talk," Stine added. "(The suspect) was in e-mail communication with Michael over a period of (time), and that helped to develop the case."

Tracey himself declined to comment on his role, saying only this about the suspect:

"I do believe he has the right to be presumed innocent. I got involved in this, for 10 years, because I believe that right was never extended to the Ramseys, and that was wrong."

[LexieRae]

Originally posted by ~Leslie~



Well I'm sure you're right that he may not have wanted publicity today ... But boy can you imagine anyone interested in the case who WOULDN'T buy the book written by the very man who corresponded with the suspect for 4 years? ... I can't.

I never really thought of it until you mentioned it. Being honest, yes, I would buy it. But the professor still did not seem like he was out for publicity. He may get a boost in sales...probably will now that you mentioned it, but I don't think he had any agenda.
We DO KNOW this man was writing to Patsy (or Patricia as he calls her), so I would imagine the DA was watching him anyway.

[Icefog]

Originally posted by LexieRae



We DO KNOW this man was writing to Patsy (or Patricia as he calls her), so I would imagine the DA was watching him anyway.

Prosecutors didn't even interview Tracey until June (despite the Ramsey's PI urging them to take this seriously)

Patsy died June 24th.

ETA to add link http://www.nationalledger.com/artman...27267773.shtml

[Postergeist]

Oh Leslie,

Woman!

You are just not clicking around enough!

I posted several links about this dude early Thursday and on the sticky link...

http://www.mediawatchuk.org/Director...tty%20prof.htm

http://www.forumsforjustice.org/foru...play.php?f=249
(this forum doesn't like Professor Tracey too much)

http://www.colorado.edu/journalism/f...os/tracey.html

http://www.thecampuspress.com/news/2006/04/jonbenet.php

http://observer.guardian.co.uk/magaz...803742,00.html
<snip>
I meet Michael Tracey in a place he refers to as his 'downtown office' - a bar called the Hungry Toad, which is owned by a Brit and is the only place in Boulder where you can buy a pint of bitter. Tracey is a professor of journalism at the University of Colorado; he has made three documentaries about the Ramsey case, is currently at work on a book about it, and has the ear of John and Patsy Ramsey, in whose innocence he firmly believes. He arrives with a manila envelope and tells me knowingly that he feels very close to solving the case. <snip>


*keep in mind that reports have been that Karr fled the country several years ago and moved from place to place, so it's likely email addys would be different when he sent email to Tracey. He also could've been using different nics as well when emailing. We see that happen all the time here. lol

[Pinetree]

Michael Tracey is a joke, IMO. He accused a man, in his first docufantasy, of the murder who wasn't in Co. at the time of the killing or accident or whatever the theory is. Seems his whole purpose in life is deflecting any suspicion away from the Ramseys....no matter what.

[TuscanDreams]

Tracey is a Professor at the University of Colorado. He's a critic of the American Justice System and often speaks out against us. He's from the UK. He's written a book and is currently trying to find a pubisher for his current book. In addition, he's written a documentary to show that the Ramsey's are innocent.

Is he unbiased? Nope.

Is he the one that Karr was emailing and gave inside info to? Yes.

Does Tracey have an agenda to get this case solved with his involvement so that he can really start a tirade against the American legal system? yes.

Did Karr email Tracey because he knew that Tracey would take his info and make a run with it? You bet!

This stinks, IMO.

This could be the perpetrator, I don't know. The problem is that Michael Tracey has shown a extreme disregard for the American Justice System and for the Ramsey's as suspects. So, he has an agenda. Can he be trusted as an informant?

And, I think that Karr should be locked up, regardless. He's a pedophile and his current CA warrants should mandate his registration as a sex offender and he should also be incarcerated and undergo treatment to determine what type of a public risk he is. That's a moot point in regards to whether he killed JBR or not.

JMO!

[MyrDawn]

Biased or not, he has printouts of the emails Karr sent him for several years. Emails that raised the suspicions of other people, not only Tracey, when he showed them. Suspicious enough for the DA to have him tracked down, the federal authorites to cooperate, and the Bangkok authorites to arrest him.

[rrsafety]

http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drm...926302,00.html
"JonBenet, my love, my life. I love you and shall forever love you. I pray that you can hear my voice calling out to you from my darkness - this darkness that now separates us,...."I will tell you that I can understand people like Michael Jackson and feel sympathy when he suffers as he has," Karr wrote. He added that he, himself, "is trapped in a world that does not understand."

[Slicky]

Well that's pretty sickening.

[chambord]

Interesting comment in there, where Tracy writes "your mother attempted to raise you as a little girl".

[Celebration]

Originally posted by Slicky
Well that's pretty sickening.

But does it give you any feeling that he would have the aggression to duct tape a little girl's mouth, put a garrot (garrote) around her neck and abuse her?

I do not think this type of "sickening" is an aggressive "sickening," but one of putting his affection on inappropriate little girls (and maybe little boys).

[Slicky]

Originally posted by Celebration


But does it give you any feeling that he would have the aggression to duct tape a little girl's mouth, put a garrot (garrote) around her neck and abuse her?

I do not think this type of "sickening" is an aggressive "sickening," but one of putting his affection on inappropriate little girls (and maybe little boys).

No it doesn't.

I really just don't know what to think about it all at this point. The next few days will bear out what evidence the DA has. Let's hope there's a DNA match in there somewhere.

[msgatorslayer]

Sickening!

[Amistaree]

Sicko.

[Former Juror]

It's further proof, IMO, that he is just some sicko obsessed with this case.

[QuiteContrary]

Upon reading the infornation about the e-mails I became physically ill. This is a person from Hell. Bent on owning and destroying a human being for his own pleasure and ego. A person who has allowed the abnormal to become the norm. A person who puts his needs before all others. And worst of all, sexual needs and the demand to own someone fully. Coveting an innocent human being.

[anais2005]

Unless we have the emails he sent Karr as well as the emails Karr sent him who knows what he was feeding Karr,

I am as interested in what he was writing to Karr as to what he was receiving,

for the emails to have any veracity we have to read both sides

[ImaVeggie]

Karr First Emailed Tracey 4 Years Ago and waited until May of this year to contact BC Police. Why wait so long? He is connected with the private investigator hired by the Ramseys & with Lou Smit, the detective who came out of retirement to work on the case and who believes that the Ramseys are innocent, that an intruder is the murderer.

Professor Tracey supposedly has a book he wants published. The timing of this all raises my suspicions.

The word patsy keeps swirling in my brain.

[Angelina]

Holy crap, that is just sickening.

[napa]

The white teddy bear is what might be the lynch pin for him.

[Angelina]

Originally posted by napa
The white teddy bear is what might be the lynch pin for him.

I forgot about the teddy bear. Good catch!!

[Angelina]

Originally posted by napa
The white teddy bear is what might be the lynch pin for him.

And wasnt there a red heart drawn on her back?