Sandra Cantu: Tracy, California 8 yrs old

[JLette]

What is all on the allegations list right now? multiple arsons, multiple poisonings, kidnapping, rape, and murder...

She walked among us, folks! Who else is out there, right now, walking free?

not only did this ***** walk among us, she was put in a position of trust and authority with UNSUSPECTING CHILDREN :flamemad: :cuss:

[javahog]

not only did this ***** walk among us, she was put in a position of trust and authority with UNSUSPECTING CHILDREN :flamemad: :cuss:

And I cannot believe the people who put her there knew nothing. One more reason her daughter's father should have her.

[Nawny]

And I cannot believe the people who put her there knew nothing. One more reason her daughter's father should have her.

I got a feeling you're right about that Jav. This chic (I believe) was some kind of ruined by her clan. I'm not justifying her act,, you know me,, but she's a train wreck mentally. Her daughter has some kind of chance for life with her father. He's probably been dead beat for a valid reason. He may have grown up. Hope so.

[Amy]

You can add at least two poisonings to the list of charges, not only the 7 year-old girl spoken of often, but now a grown man...:shrug:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/05/22/BAM917PDHE.DTL&tsp=1

6 weeks today since Huckaby was arrested. Behar was appointed pretty quickly, so in probably 5 weeks, he still hasn't been able to get the all the information to be able to advise his client on a plea?

Thanks for the link.

[lorettalockhorn]

IMO the girl child would probably be better off with someone other than the grandparents who either turned a blind eye to Melissa's descent into madness/evil/depravity OR helped create her. I honestly think it's possible that Preacher Lawless gave her a position in the church to exorcise her demons. BUT for whatever reason the judge (and they can be idiots just like the rest of us) gave Melissa custody. What is in this father's background or how did Melissa make those allegations seem so believable at the time of the divorce? When she went before another judge on shoplifting charges (?), that particular judge saw that something was off with her and ordered the counseling.

Caught a minute of Prime News and one of the THs thought that the plea has been delayed because of the new charges and how the murder will affect them and vice versa.

[Amy]

IMO the girl child would probably be better off with someone other than the grandparents who either turned a blind eye to Melissa's descent into madness/evil/depravity OR helped create her. I honestly think it's possible that Preacher Lawless gave her a position in the church to exorcise her demons. BUT for whatever reason the judge (and they can be idiots just like the rest of us) gave Melissa custody. What is in this father's background or how did Melissa make those allegations seem so believable at the time of the divorce? When she went before another judge on shoplifting charges (?), that particular judge saw that something was off with her and ordered the counseling.

Caught a minute of Prime News and one of the THs thought that the plea has been delayed because of the new charges and how the murder will affect them and vice versa.

One thing I have noticed in life is the moving around of a "problem child." Like @ work, someone doesn't work out in one department--not because of lack of knowledge, maybe, but lack of work ethic or honesty type issues. Instead of documenting the problem until there is sufficient documentation for termination, the managers have a tendency to just transfer to another department--hoping THAT manager will either be able to straighten him/her out or go to the trouble firing entails.

Then, there is the family member that people keep sending on to another person--again, maybe this next aunt, uncle, grandma can get the person to straighten up and fly right. Maybe Melissa was the "problem child" that was passed around.

[javahog]

IMO the girl child would probably be better off with someone other than the grandparents who either turned a blind eye to Melissa's descent into madness/evil/depravity OR helped create her. I honestly think it's possible that Preacher Lawless gave her a position in the church to exorcise her demons. BUT for whatever reason the judge (and they can be idiots just like the rest of us) gave Melissa custody. What is in this father's background or how did Melissa make those allegations seem so believable at the time of the divorce? When she went before another judge on shoplifting charges (?), that particular judge saw that something was off with her and ordered the counseling.

Caught a minute of Prime News and one of the THs thought that the plea has been delayed because of the new charges and how the murder will affect them and vice versa.

I'll bet when the custody issue came up, she had all sorts of family standing up, including a minister or two, to basically push that there was a village to raise the girl.

a lot of dads say, and it is true-there is a natural bias toward the mom, especially when the child is an infant, as this girl was at the time of the divorce. No way a judge will pull a baby at the breast from the mother and hand her to the father...and once gone at that age and on the other side of the country, well, there you go...at least he is stepping up now, and he seems on the face of it to have a good stable situation. It has to be more stable than either the (alleged) arsonist, poisoning, raping, murdering mom, or the grandmother running the child up and down the West Coast to keep the dad away.

And to hit on the religion: since their church claims to have the whole Truth and the only Truth: the grandmother is fighting for Madison's immortal soul from her point of view-she'll fight hard!

[javahog]

One thing I have noticed in life is the moving around of a "problem child." Like @ work, someone doesn't work out in one department--not because of lack of knowledge, maybe, but lack of work ethic or honesty type issues. Instead of documenting the problem until there is sufficient documentation for termination, the managers have a tendency to just transfer to another department--hoping THAT manager will either be able to straighten him/her out or go to the trouble firing entails.

Then, there is the family member that people keep sending on to another person--again, maybe this next aunt, uncle, grandma can get the person to straighten up and fly right. Maybe Melissa was the "problem child" that was passed around.

I read that's how Melissa ended up in Tracy-family members down south were tired of having to help her out of her messes (the arsons come to mind) and shipped her to Grandma and Grandpa to make THEM deal with her. Apparently she was just getting passed from person to person until she ended up in the mobile home park (NOT trailer park, as the TH's keep calling it)

[samanthajane13]

Cantu Suspect Charged in Poison Cases

(May 22) -- Melissa Huckaby, the former Sunday school teacher accused of kidnapping, raping and killing 8-year-old Sandra Cantu, will face additional charges that she tried to poison two people, including another 7-year-old girl.

A revised complaint against Huckaby, 28, of Tracy, California, was made public just hours before she appeared in court on Friday.

It charged that Huckaby "did willfully and unlawfully mingle a harmful substance with food or drink" with the intent to harm the child, identified only as "Jane M. Doe."

Another alleged poisoning victim was identified as Daniel Plowman, but no age or other information was immediately provided.

The latest charges also include one count of child abuse endangerment relating to the unidentified child, who was allegedly in Huckaby's "care and custody."

Huckaby did not enter a plea in the Cantu slaying in her first two court appearances last month.

At an earlier hearing, Judge Linda L. Loftis agreed to keep the autopsy and toxicology reports under seal, citing a "great danger of public outrage."

If convicted on the murder, rape and kidnapping charges, Huckaby, could face the death penalty or life in prison without parole, authorities said.


http://news.aol.com/article/melissa-huckaby-sandra-cantu-case/495869?icid=main|htmlws-main|dl1|link3|http%3A%2F%2Fnews.aol.com%2Farticle %2Fmelissa-huckaby-sandra-cantu-case%2F495869

[lorettalockhorn]

I'll bet when the custody issue came up, she had all sorts of family standing up, including a minister or two, to basically push that there was a village to raise the girl.

a lot of dads say, and it is true-there is a natural bias toward the mom, especially when the child is an infant, as this girl was at the time of the divorce. No way a judge will pull a baby at the breast from the mother and hand her to the father...and once gone at that age and on the other side of the country, well, there you go...at least he is stepping up now, and he seems on the face of it to have a good stable situation. It has to be more stable than either the (alleged) arsonist, poisoning, raping, murdering mom, or the grandmother running the child up and down the West Coast to keep the dad away.

And to hit on the religion: since their church claims to have the whole Truth and the only Truth: the grandmother is fighting for Madison's immortal soul from her point of view-she'll fight hard!

You're probably exactly right on all accounts. Hopefully when/if the custody issue gets in front of the judge, the prior issues will be fully examined.

I have nothing but disdain for the Lawless family, except or Madison of course. Guess I'm one of those who think that people rarely just snap.

Father lives in AR, not far from Arkansas Children's Hospital. Maybe they could avail themselves of the fine services there and change the "sickly child" into a healthy girl. Get her far away and let some water run under the bridge!

[javahog]

You're probably exactly right on all accounts. Hopefully when/if the custody issue gets in front of the judge, the prior issues will be fully examined.

I have nothing but disdain for the Lawless family, except or Madison of course. Guess I'm one of those who think that people rarely just snap.

Father lives in AR, not far from Arkansas Children's Hospital. Maybe they could avail themselves of the fine services there and change the "sickly child" into a healthy girl. Get her far away and let some water run under the bridge!

Are you thinking Munchausen's too, Loretta?

[lorettalockhorn]

I think Munchausen by proxy came up earlier in our discussion. It will be interesting to see if Madison flourishes in the absence of her mother and/or in a new environment.

I'm assuming that before the girl was allowed to continue to live with the grandparents that there was a very thorough homestudy done. And I'm assuming that the judge can just as easily ask AR to do the same although the child does live in his jurisdiction and the father doesn't, so he may not want to touch it. Many judges are (rightfully so) reluctant to hand off a child to another authority.

[javahog]

I think Munchausen by proxy came up earlier in our discussion. It will be interesting to see if Madison flourishes in the absence of her mother and/or in a new environment.

I'm assuming that before the girl was allowed to continue to live with the grandparents that there was a very thorough homestudy done. And I'm assuming that the judge can just as easily ask AR to do the same although the child does live in his jurisdiction and the father doesn't, so he may not want to touch it. Many judges are (rightfully so) reluctant to hand off a child to another authority.

I honestly wonder about that-there is such a backlog out here and the budget problems are hideous, I would not be surprised if it was simply decided to "let it ride", really...

[lorettalockhorn]

JVM mentioned this:

Disturbing evidence found on computer of alleged killer of Sandra Cantu


Investigators have found disturbing information on the computer of Melissa Huckaby, the Sunday school teacher accused of the abduction, rape, and murder of 8-year-old Sandra Cantu.

According to authorities, Huckaby’s hard drive contained multiple Internet searches about a murdered child in Israel.

The child, 4-year-old Rose Pisam disappeared about a year ago and was missing for months. Later, the girl’s grandfather was arrested and confessed to stuffing Rose’s body in a suitcase, which he dumped in a local river.

The similarities between the Sandra Cantu murder and the Rose Pisam case are startling:

Huckaby lived with her grandparents in the same mobile home park as the Cantu family—Rose’s mother, Marie Pisam, 23, was living with Ronnie Ron, 45, the girl’s grandfather.
Huckaby’s grandfather was the pastor at a church in Washington State during the 1980s where allegations of abuse were raised—Rose’s grandfather and mother were in a romantic relationship (Rose’s mother was married to Ron’s son Benjamin at the time).
Sandra’s body was found inside a suitcase in a drained irrigation ditch—Rose’s body was stuffed inside a suitcase placed in a river.
Huckaby has not yet entered a plea in the case and is scheduled for another court hearing June 12.

http://www.examiner.com/x-1168-Crime-Examiner~y2009m5d26-Disturbing-evidence-found-on-computer-of-alleged-killer-of-Sandra-Cantu

[lorettalockhorn]

I honestly wonder about that-there is such a backlog out here and the budget problems are hideous, I would not be surprised if it was simply decided to "let it ride", really...

Gosh I hope that the system will somehow go the extra mile for this little one. She needs care and nurturing and protection.

[javahog]

JVM mentioned this:

Disturbing evidence found on computer of alleged killer of Sandra Cantu


Investigators have found disturbing information on the computer of Melissa Huckaby, the Sunday school teacher accused of the abduction, rape, and murder of 8-year-old Sandra Cantu.

According to authorities, Huckaby’s hard drive contained multiple Internet searches about a murdered child in Israel.

The child, 4-year-old Rose Pisam disappeared about a year ago and was missing for months. Later, the girl’s grandfather was arrested and confessed to stuffing Rose’s body in a suitcase, which he dumped in a local river.

The similarities between the Sandra Cantu murder and the Rose Pisam case are startling:

Huckaby lived with her grandparents in the same mobile home park as the Cantu family—Rose’s mother, Marie Pisam, 23, was living with Ronnie Ron, 45, the girl’s grandfather.
Huckaby’s grandfather was the pastor at a church in Washington State during the 1980s where allegations of abuse were raised—Rose’s grandfather and mother were in a romantic relationship (Rose’s mother was married to Ron’s son Benjamin at the time).
Sandra’s body was found inside a suitcase in a drained irrigation ditch—Rose’s body was stuffed inside a suitcase placed in a river.
Huckaby has not yet entered a plea in the case and is scheduled for another court hearing June 12.

http://www.examiner.com/x-1168-Crime-Examiner~y2009m5d26-Disturbing-evidence-found-on-computer-of-alleged-killer-of-Sandra-Cantu

Oh My Gosh! I read about that case last year when they found her body in the Jerusalem Post!!!!! It was horrible. I never made any connection. How freaky! She was making some of the same internet searches I was...eww.

[javahog]

The Mystery Male Poisoning Victim (alleged)

Wow, so Daniel Plowman, the second of MH's two poisoning charges, was actually in trouble with a DUI that turned out, they believe, to be the result of her drugging him before he drove off!

http://www.tracypress.com/pages/full_story?page_label=home&id=2608141-Man+faced+DUI+after+Huckaby+allegedly+poisoned+him&article-Man%20faced%20DUI%20after%20Huckaby%20allegedly%20 poisoned%20him%20=&widget=push&instance=home_news_bullets&open=&

[Marian Paroo]

Oh My Gosh! I read about that case last year when they found her body in the Jerusalem Post!!!!! It was horrible. I never made any connection. How freaky! She was making some of the same internet searches I was...eww.

There isn't a lot of coverage of American crime in Israel, unless it directly involves Israelis, Jews or anti-Israel terrorists, but when the body of the child was first found, the papers called her "The American Rose :rose:

Right now the big crime news here is the discovery of the body of a young woman who disappeared a couple of years ago, and how it led to finding a serial killer.

If the police knew the killer's previous victims were connected, they were no saying so at the time.

[javahog]

There isn't a lot of coverage of American crime in Israel, unless it directly involves Israelis, Jews or anti-Israel terrorists, but when the body of the child was first found, the papers called her "The American Rose :rose:

Right now the big crime news here is the discovery of the body of a young woman who disappeared a couple of years ago, and how it led to finding a serial killer.

If the police knew the killer's previous victims were connected, they were no saying so at the time.

WOW! I just looked this guy up: amazing story! http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1243259521840&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull

[Marian Paroo]

WOW! I just looked this guy up: amazing story! http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1243259521840&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull

Yeah. LE was probably barking up the wrong tree for ages, looking at the direction of a Palestinian or an Israeli Arab, going towards a nationalist hate crime.

Well, they did find their Arab, but he was "just" a serial killer.

I am trying to remember if there has been another case of an serial killer who was caught here, and I can think of is a that of a religious Jewish guys who killed both his wives, and the twist in that tail was his wife was a murderess who got a pardon for, among other reasons, medical documents which were apparently phony.

Did I mention that case here, or just on every other board that I have been on?

[Amy]

Yeah. LE was probably barking up the wrong tree for ages, looking at the direction of a Palestinian or an Israeli Arab, going towards a nationalist hate crime.

Well, they did find their Arab, but he was "just" a serial killer.

I am trying to remember if there has been another case of an serial killer who was caught here, and I can think of is a that of a religious Jewish guys who killed both his wives, and the twist in that tail was his wife was a murderess who got a pardon for, among other reasons, medical documents which were apparently phony.

Did I mention that case here, or just on every other board that I have been on?

First time I have read this second case, so must have just been on every other board. ;) Sounds pretty interesting. I think I had read about the other case, in some news article, maybe on a message board, but it had been quite some time. Another interesting (and sad) case.

[Marian Paroo]

First time I have read this second case, so must have just been on every other board. ;) Sounds pretty interesting. I think I had read about the other case, in some news article, maybe on a message board, but it had been quite some time. Another interesting (and sad) case.

If you mean the case of the religious guy who killed both wives, I only feel sorry for the first one.

The second one, the murderess, was one of the most vicious in Israeli history, and she deservedly got hoisted on her own petard. I wonder if her last thoughts were for the man she killed, or regrets that she managed to get a pardon on false pretenses, rather then being in jail at that moment, eating snacks from the commissary.

[Marian Paroo]

http://pqasb.pqarchiver.com/jpost/access/46734983.html?dids=46734983:46734983&FMT=ABS&FMTS=ABS:FT&type=current&date=Nov+28%2C+1999&author=TAMAR+HAUSMAN+and+Itim&pub=Jerusalem+Post&edition=&startpage=01&desc=Israeli+woman%27s+murder+may+be+linked+to+Ara b+cab+driver+slaying+she+took+part+in

[One2Snoop]

Woman pleads not guilty to killing Sandra Cantu

Henry K. Lee, Chronicle Staff Writer
Saturday, June 13, 2009

(06-13) 04:00 PDT Stockton - --

A Tracy woman pleaded not guilty Friday to charges that she raped and murdered 8-year-old Sandra Cantu, asserting her innocence three days after the prosecution urged the judge to move the case along.

Melissa Huckaby, 28, making her fourth appearance in a Stockton courtroom since her arrest in April, entered not guilty pleas to murder and special circumstances that make her eligible for execution if convicted.

She also pleaded not guilty to charges of child endangerment and furnishing a harmful substance for allegedly drugging a 7-year-old girl and a man in the months before Sandra died.

Huckaby's preliminary hearing will begin Sept. 24 and will last at least six days over the course of three weeks, said Judge Linda Lofthus of San Joaquin County Superior Court.

Asked by Lofthus if she waived her right to a continuous preliminary hearing - one that proceeds from start to finish without the court breaking for other cases - Huckaby said, "Yes." She smiled several times during the brief hearing as attorneys chatted and made small talk.

Huckaby, who is the mother of one of Sandra's playmates, was arrested April 10 and charged with murder and three special circumstances. Those allege that the killing was committed during a kidnapping, involved a lewd or lascivious act on a child, and involved rape with a foreign object.

Prosecutors had urged Lofthus to enter a plea for Huckaby if the defendant did not do so herself Friday, saying the case was dragging. They have not decided whether to pursue the death penalty.

Huckaby is being held without bail at San Joaquin County Jail in French Camp.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/06/13/BAKG1866PR.DTL

[SaraSidle]

I'm amazed after all of the crimes that I have read, this one still shocks me. :eek:

I pray for that little girl. :rose:

believe me. You are not alone. some of the own keeps assisting she had help from someone........lots of denial there...........IMO sara

[Marian Paroo]

Poor little thing doesn't need prayers now.

The time for that is over. :(

[BeastofBears]

Poor little thing doesn't need prayers now.

The time for that is over. :(

The family could use them, though...

http://www.mercurynews.com/crime/ci_12681495 = memorials for Sandra

[SaraSidle]

The family could use them, though...

http://www.mercurynews.com/crime/ci_12681495 = memorials for Sandra

I saw that. What a wonderful beautiful idea!!!!!!!:rose:sara

[lorettalockhorn]

The family could use them, though...

http://www.mercurynews.com/crime/ci_12681495 = memorials for Sandra

Beauty. Thanks for the link!

[One2Snoop]

Tracy woman's ex-husband gets custody of daughter

Tuesday, July 7, 2009
(07-07) 23:12 PDT Stockton, Calif. (AP) --

The ex-husband of a Tracy woman accused of murdering an 8-year-old girl has won custody of their daughter.

Court records filed Monday in Orange County show 25-year-old Johnny Huckaby, 28-year-old Melissa Huckaby's ex-husband, has been granted custody of their 5-year-old daughter, Madison. Melissa Huckaby's mother, Judy Lawless, will be allowed to visit the 5-year-old, but cannot allow the girl to have contact with her mother.

Melissa Huckaby is accused of murdering, raping and kidnapping Sandra Cantu, whose body was found in April. She has pleaded not guilty.

Lawless had asked the court to let Madison live with her, saying the girl had spent most of her life there and had little contact with Johnny Huckaby, who lives in Arkansas.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2009/07/07/state/n231201D95.DTL&tsp=1

[One2Snoop]

News report says grand jury will convene in Huckaby case
by TP staff
Jul 07, 2009

A grand jury will on July 20 begin hearing testimony and evidence against a Tracy woman accused of murdering 8-year-old Sandra Cantu, according to the Stockton Record.

A gag order prevents anyone with ties to the case from talking about it to the media. So no one contacted by the Tracy Press would confirm the Record’s story — published on July 2 — reporting that witnesses have been subpoenaed and that grand jury proceedings are scheduled to begin later this month.

San Joaquin County Superior Court spokeswoman Stephanie Bohrer said she wasn’t aware that a grand jury would convene in connection with the case against 28-year-old Melissa Huckaby, who’s accused of kidnapping, raping and murdering Sandra. She said that even if she did know, she wouldn’t be able to talk about it because of the gag order.

Indictments handed down by a grand jury are normally made public after the fact, along with transcripts of witness testimony, unless the presiding judge seals them.

San Joaquin County Superior Court Judge Linda Lofthus has already sealed Sandra’s autopsy report as well as some motions filed by attorneys in the case.

Prosecutors have charged Huckaby with murder and three special circumstances of kidnapping, lewd or lascivious acts on a child and rape by a foreign object. She also faces charges — unrelated to Sandra’s killing — of furnishing a harmful substance to a 36-year-old Hayward man named Daniel Plowman as well as a 7-year-old girl.

Sandra disappeared on March 27 from Orchard Estates Mobile Home Park in Tracy, where Huckaby also lived. After a massive search, the little girl’s body was found 10 days later inside a suitcase in a dairy lagoon north of Tracy.

Huckaby was arrested on April 10 after making statements published in the Tracy Press that were inconsistent with what she earlier told police.

http://www.tracypress.com/pages/full_story/push?article-News+report+says+grand+jury+will+convene+in+Huckab y+case%20&id=2896296-News+report+says+grand+jury+will+convene+in+Huckab y+case&instance=home_news_lead_story

[lorettalockhorn]

Tracy woman's ex-husband gets custody of daughter

Tuesday, July 7, 2009
(07-07) 23:12 PDT Stockton, Calif. (AP) --

The ex-husband of a Tracy woman accused of murdering an 8-year-old girl has won custody of their daughter.

Court records filed Monday in Orange County show 25-year-old Johnny Huckaby, 28-year-old Melissa Huckaby's ex-husband, has been granted custody of their 5-year-old daughter, Madison. Melissa Huckaby's mother, Judy Lawless, will be allowed to visit the 5-year-old, but cannot allow the girl to have contact with her mother.

Melissa Huckaby is accused of murdering, raping and kidnapping Sandra Cantu, whose body was found in April. She has pleaded not guilty.

Lawless had asked the court to let Madison live with her, saying the girl had spent most of her life there and had little contact with Johnny Huckaby, who lives in Arkansas.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2009/07/07/state/n231201D95.DTL&tsp=1

Thanks for the update! I think I'm glad to hear that Madison will be out of the clutches of the Lawless family.

[SaraSidle]

Thanks for the update! I think I'm glad to hear that Madison will be out of the clutches of the Lawless family.

I hope this is better. I have not heard anything about Dad. sara

[lorettalockhorn]

I hope this is better. I have not heard anything about Dad. sara

Seems to me that the mother alleged some pretty serious things against him in the divorce proceedings, but I'm trusting that the Cali judge ordered an intense and thorough homestudy before he would allow a child/ward/citizen of his state to be transferred to another jurisdiction.

[SaraSidle]

Seems to me that the mother alleged some pretty serious things against him in the divorce proceedings, but I'm trusting that the Cali judge ordered an intense and thorough homestudy before he would allow a child/ward/citizen of his state to be transferred to another jurisdiction.

I sure hope so. I heard on CNN that a judge didn't make a dentist serve jailtime for molesting patients. lovely. I hope this judge is smarter. sara

[TobyTiger]

Melissa Huckaby's ex granted custody of daughter

After a contentious exchange of court filings, full custody of Melissa Huckaby's 5-year-old daughter was granted to the child's father, John Huckaby, 25, following a hearing Monday in Orange County Superior Court.

Judge Michael J. Naughton ordered the child — who has been living with her father in Arkansas since late April — not to have any contact with her mother, who is being held in San Joaquin County Jail in connection with the kidnapping and death of 8-year-old Sandra Cantu.

Involved parties are also forbidden from making disparaging remarks about others after an agreement was reached between John Huckaby and the child's grandmother, Judy Lawless, of Tracy, who was granted visitation rights in the girl's new home state, according to court documents.

Court records show a copy of the order was mailed to Melissa Huckaby in jail, where, at one point, she was under 24-hour observation. Because of a gag order, parties involved in the case aren't allowed to comment,

Melissa Huckaby, 28, has been charged with murder with three special circumstances — kidnapping, lewd or lascivious acts upon a child, and rape by a foreign object — in connection with the death of Sandra, the Tracy girl whose case drew national attention after she went missing from the mobile home park in which she lived. Melissa Huckaby was a neighbor of the Cantus, and her daughter was described as Sandra's best friend.

In an amended complaint filed last month, prosecutors added a count of child endangerment and two counts of furnishing someone a harmful substance — one relating to a second unnamed child and the other to a Hayward man — against Melissa Huckaby. Those charges are not part of the Cantu case. Melissa Huckaby could face the death penalty if convicted of murder with any of the three enhancements.

John Huckaby was originally granted temporary care of the child in April and claimed Lawless attempted to conceal the child from him by taking her to Oregon, according to court documents. He also claimed Lawless was acting in bad faith when, while looking for his daughter in Oregon, he was notified of a court hearing in Orange County two hours before its start.

"Ms. Lawless knew that I was out of the state and that I would likely not be able to return to Orange County to attend the ex parte hearing as noticed," John Huckaby wrote in court documents. "This is blatant bad faith on the part of Ms. Lawless."

In court documents filed April 22, Lawless contends she has become the "psychological parent" of the minor child and has had significant custodial periods with her since she was born.

"It is a great injustice for our granddaughter to be placed with the father that she does not know and has had no contact with for the last four years," Lawless wrote.

The couple wed in May 2003, separated in August 2004, and divorced in 2005, records show. Melissa Huckaby was granted full custody of their daughter. John Huckaby has since remarried and has two other children.

Sandra Cantu was last seen alive March 27. After an intense search, her body was found April 6 in a black suitcase in a dairy pond just off Whitehall Road north of Tracy. Melissa Huckaby was targeted by police shortly after the grisly discovery and arrested a few days later.

According to the Stockton Record, a criminal grand jury will begin hearing evidence against Huckaby later this month.

http://www.mercurynews.com/breakingnews/ci_12804305?nclick_check=1

[JLette]

STOCKTON, Calif. -- Police investigating the death of an 8-year-old Tracy girl found stuffed in a suitcase used telephone wiretaps to monitor calls in the case.

The Record in Stockton reported Tuesday it had received a letter from the San Joaquin County District Attorney's office informing the newspaper that its calls were among those monitored.

"It does have a bit of a chilling effect. If you are talking to news sources often in a confidential manner and to not know if law enforcement is listening in on those," Mike Klocke, editor of The Record, said. "It just makes you pause and think, how are we going to approach our jobs? At the same time, we certainly don't begrudge law enforcement using the tools they need to try and solve cases."

Connie Lawless, the grandmother of the woman charged with murdering Sandra Cantu, told the newspaper she and several members of the church her husband leads received similar letters.

The letter said calls were monitored from April 8, two days after Cantu was found, until April 13.

Melissa Huckaby's cell phone was wiretapped, along with the home phone of Connie and Lane Lawless, according to the DA's office.

Phones at The Record were not wiretapped.

There were other people whose conversations were monitored, the DA's office said, but it's unknown who they are right now because of a gag order in the case.

Judge Richard Vlavianos signed an order to authorize the wiretapping.

Huckaby has pleaded not guilty to kidnapping, raping and murdering the girl, who disappeared from Orchard Estates Mobile Home Park on March 27.

Her body was discovered a little more than a week later inside a suitcase dumped in a drainage pond north of Tracy.


http://www.kcra.com/news/20050487/detail.html

[dan_uk]

Huckaby grand jury duties done

STOCKTON - A criminal grand jury concluded its deliberations Friday afternoon in the case of Melissa Huckaby, a Tracy woman accused in the kidnapping, rape and murder of 8-year-old Sandra Cantu.

The grand jury's decision to indict her - or not - will remain secret unless Huckaby, 28, is brought back to court for arraignment. The indictment would take the place of charges San Joaquin County prosecutors filed against her after her April 10 arrest.

Huckaby's next hearing before San Joaquin County Superior Court Judge Linda Lofthus is scheduled for Sept. 8.

For the past two weeks, witnesses have been called to testify before the grand jury. If they return an indictment, the case will next go to a trial in open court.

Huckaby is charged with slaying Sandra on March 27, the day the girl vanished. Huckaby and Sandra were both residents of Orchard Estates Mobile Home Park in Tracy. Farm workers found the girl's body 10 days later in a suitcase two miles north of town.

Huckaby's case was set for a September preliminary hearing. If the grand jury issues an indictment, the preliminary hearing won't be held, and key details of the case will remain out of the public's knowledge.

A judge's gag order has kept investigators and prosecutors from explaining a possible motive for the killing and how Sandra died. Legal experts have suggested prosecutors took it to a grand jury, where proceedings are always secret, to quiet the public interest in an attempt to prevent moving the trial out of San Joaquin County

http://www.recordnet.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20090801/A_NEWS/908010322/-1/NEWSMAP

[Marian Paroo]

It seems to be moving fast. Good.

[lorettalockhorn]

Thanks for the link Dan!

I understand the desire for secrecy here, but does this process seem backwards? Having the grand jury sit after MH has already been charged? Although I realize it's not rare.

[One2Snoop]

Attorneys in the Mehserle and Huckaby cases face long odds in trying to have trials moved
Venue changes rare in court proceedings
By Terry Collins
Associated Press
Posted: 08/25/2009 03:07:46 PM PDT
Updated: 08/25/2009 08:48:44 PM PDT

snip...

In addition to the Mehserle case, a venue-change request also is expected
in the case of Melissa Huckaby, a Sunday school teacher accused of kidnapping, raping and killing 8-year-old Sandra Cantu this spring in Tracy.

But prosecutors have taken steps to prevent that by, among other things, moving to keep grand jury transcripts sealed.

"We don't want this case tried anywhere else," San Joaquin County prosecutor Thomas Testa said. "We want it to remain right here."

Venue changes are a long shot in California, where the state Judicial Council reports that only four of the scores of requests during the past two years have been granted.

"It's rare everywhere. Very, very rare," said Robert Weisberg, a law professor and director of the Criminal Justice Center at Stanford University. "The court system does not like it, because they're very complicated and expensive."

Trial relocations are so uncommon nationwide that the U.S. Department of Justice or the National Center for State Courts in Williamsburg, Va., do not keep such statistics. Nor do three of the five largest states: Texas, New York and Illinois.

To win a venue change, defense attorneys must prove that their clients cannot get justice in the county where the crime occurred. And they commonly argue that media attention or community bias preclude a fair trial. Sometimes they contend that the community is so small that potential jurors have a personal connection with the defendant.

"The burden on the defense is fairly hard," said Mike Vitiello, a professor at the University of Pacific McGeorge School of Law in Sacramento. "Counsel has to do substantial investigation, polling prospective jurors to show not only familiarity with the case but a settled view of the guilt of the defendant."

In another case with racial overtones, Columbus Allen Jr., a black man accused of killing white California Highway Patrol Officer Earl Scott in 2006, won a change of venue from Stanislaus County.

In his ruling, Judge Hurl Johnson invoked the last case moved from the county — the trial of Scott Peterson, who was convicted of slaying his pregnant wife and their unborn baby in 2002.

"The gravity of the crime, the status of the victim, the content of the publicity and the extent of the publicity exceeds anything this court has seen in the community other than the Peterson case," the judge wrote.

http://www.contracostatimes.com/news/ci_13201226

[lorettalockhorn]

Huckaby acted up in jail, possibly tried to kill herself

Tracy murder suspect Melissa Huckaby acted up and tried to hurt herself before her last court hearing, according to San Joaquin County jail records.

The 28-year-old accused of kidnapping, raping and killing 8-year-old neighbor girl Sandra Cantu is being held without bail at the San Joaquin County Jail. A grand jury handed down an indictment in August that also charges her with drugging a 7-year-old girl in January and a 37-year-old man in March. She pleaded not guilty last month to all the charges.

An incident report from the jail says that a couple days before her Aug. 17 court hearing, Huckaby hid behind a mattress and wrapped a blanket around her neck. She was taken to a “safety cell” and refused to eat dinner.

An Aug. 12 report says that a deputy found Huckaby lying on the floor by her bed. She said she felt dizzy and then passed out. The jail ordered a psychiatric nurse to check up on the inmate.

About a half-hour later, another jail employee found Huckaby sitting next to her bed with a trash can. When the employee asked her what was wrong, Huckaby replied, “I took pills,” according to the incident report. An ambulance took her to a doctor for treatment, records show.

Huckaby apparently acted up the morning of her last court appearance in an attempt to get out of going to the proceeding. She showed up in court with a couple fresh scratches on her forehead and on her left forearm.

Huckaby’s ex-husband accused her of trying to kill herself before. In a Southern California court when Johnny Huckaby was arguing for custody of their 5-year-old daughter, he said his ex-wife tried to kill herself by swallowing razor blades the day Sandra’s body was found April 6.

The Jacobson Elementary School second-grader went missing on March 27 and her body was found stuffed in a suitcase days later. The girl lived a few doors down from Huckaby in the Orchard Estates Mobile Home Park.

More than 70 people testified before a secret grand jury that charged Huckaby with murder and three enhancements that could qualify her for the death penalty: kidnapping, lewd and lascivious acts on a child and rape by instrument. A separate count charges her with having sex with a child younger than 10.

Huckaby has yet to enter a plea, and is due in court on Sept. 10 in Stockton. A gag order bars anyone involved with the case from speaking publicly about it.

Prosecutor Thomas Testa said at the last hearing that the case is a death penalty case until otherwise indicated.

http://www.tracypress.com/pages/full_story/push?article-Huckaby+acted+up+in+jail-+possibly+tried+to+kill+herself%20&id=3529088-Huckaby+acted+up+in+jail-+possibly+tried+to+kill+herself&instance=home_news_bullets

[One2Snoop]

I'm not surprised to read the above - who wants to bet she pleads insanity?

[Amy]

I'm not surprised to read the above - who wants to bet she pleads insanity?

Too little, too late. She missed the boat on that proving she knew right from wrong when she disposed of Sandra Cantu's body.

OTOH, she might be trying for unable to participate in her trial. For that I say (and I could sure use some Nawny words here) fongool!!!! Forgive me if I used this in the wrong context, but horse feathers or bull sh!t just don't seem to be strong enough words.

I say, if she was so dadgum distraught, she would have succeeded in killing herself one of the 3 times she has "attempted" it. IMO, she knows what she is doing even now, and what she is doing is trying to get hearings delayed, to put off the inevitable as long as she can. And, to maybe get the trial put off until such time as she could "participate" which I am sure she would be trying forever to see that that did not happen.

Nope, she swallowed razor blades, but found help before she got anywhere near death. She swallowed pills which it seems she threw up. And, a blanket around her neck? A sheet, maybe, but a blanket is a little too bulky (even the thin little jail issue ones) to do much harm. Besides, once you have pulled hard enough to lose consciousness, you lose your hold and the "noose" loosens, also. Nope, she wasn't trying to kill herself, IMO. Just wanting the prosecution, the judge, the defense lawyers and subsequently the public to THINK she tried to kill herself. IMO.

[Nawny]

Too little, too late. She missed the boat on that proving she knew right from wrong when she disposed of Sandra Cantu's body.

OTOH, she might be trying for unable to participate in her trial. For that I say (and I could sure use some Nawny words here) fongool!!!! Forgive me if I used this in the wrong context, but horse feathers or bull sh!t just don't seem to be strong enough words.

I say, if she was so dadgum distraught, she would have succeeded in killing herself one of the 3 times she has "attempted" it. IMO, she knows what she is doing even now, and what she is doing is trying to get hearings delayed, to put off the inevitable as long as she can. And, to maybe get the trial put off until such time as she could "participate" which I am sure she would be trying forever to see that that did not happen.

Nope, she swallowed razor blades, but found help before she got anywhere near death. She swallowed pills which it seems she threw up. And, a blanket around her neck? A sheet, maybe, but a blanket is a little too bulky (even the thin little jail issue ones) to do much harm. Besides, once you have pulled hard enough to lose consciousness, you lose your hold and the "noose" loosens, also. Nope, she wasn't trying to kill herself, IMO. Just wanting the prosecution, the judge, the defense lawyers and subsequently the public to THINK she tried to kill herself. IMO.

I was about to say, after reading loretta's link, that she may not be a socio because they never want to die by suicide, seeing that they have no conscience, but after reading your take on it, she just might be a tad worse than the liar.

Fongool is used very appropriately here Amy. LOL! We take it out of context all the time. What it literally means and the way we use it are 2 different things. The word is kinda like a blood pressure med. :D

[lorettalockhorn]

What could be considered sociopathic about her suicide gestures is that they are pure manipulation. Honestly, when I read about the blanket around the neck I immediately thought of erotic asphyxiation rather than suicide.

This woman is whack, but don't think she'll get very far with an insanity defense.

[SaraSidle]

What could be considered sociopathic about her suicide gestures is that they are pure manipulation. Honestly, when I read about the blanket around the neck I immediately thought of erotic asphyxiation rather than suicide.

This woman is whack, but don't think she'll get very far with an insanity defense.

ITA Loretta

[wind149]

I agree an insanity defense is not going to fly simply because she is pulling these little attention getters and she is just trying to manipulate the system and this scumbag has no leg to stand on and crazy people do not methodically kidnap and rape a young girl and put her in a suitcase and then throw it in a canal?? No that is not insanity, that is premeditated rape and murder and no lawyer is going to get this broad nothing less than the needle and poor Sandra's body was so violated, the judge will not release the autopsy reports because she feels it will spark outrage? Too late there, my rage started the minute my sister called me and told me that they had arrested this maggot as I was watching something else other than the news and I was not shocked, but highly pissed off that a woman could do this to a child, especially when it is not even hers which seems to be a trend, say Casey??? I think a trial is a waste of time and money because we all know what the outcome will be?? This woman is even now, locked up, trying to run her spin that she is innocent?? But it was her suitcase? And people saw her with Sandra??

[lorettalockhorn]

San Joaquin seeking death in Sandra Cantu case


(09-10) 14:05 PDT STOCKTON -- San Joaquin County prosecutors will ask for the death penalty for the Sunday school teacher accused of raping and murdering an 8-year-old playmate of her daughter in Tracy, authorities said today.

Melissa Huckaby, 28, was indicted in July on a murder charge and three special circumstances in the death of Sandra Cantu - including that she killed during the commission of a rape - that make her eligible for execution if convicted. Huckaby was also accused of sexually assaulting a child under 10.

The decision to seek lethal execution was made by District Attorney James Willett, who consulted with attorneys in his office as well as Sandra's family, authorities said.

Huckaby pleaded not guilty at a hearing today in San Joaquin County Superior Court in Stockton. Judge Linda Lofthus revealed that the defense had hired a change-of-venue expert from Chico State University, suggesting that Huckaby wants to move her trial elsewhere.

Huckaby also sought to remove her lawyer, Deputy Public Defender Sam Behar, from the case, but Lofthus denied the motion. The reason for Huckaby's request was not explained, and a gag order prevents lawyers from talking about the case outside court.

Huckaby will return to court Sept. 25, at which time the judge could set a trial date, possibly in March.

Huckaby is accused of killing Sandra after the girl went to her house to play with Huckaby's 5-year-old daughter March 27.

Much is still not known about the case, and authorities have not gone into detail about how they believe Sandra died.

However, sources close to the investigation have told The Chronicle that they believe the girl was deliberately killed at the Clover Road Baptist Church, where Huckaby's grandfather is the pastor and where she taught Sunday school.

The church is two blocks from the mobile home park where Sandra lived with her mother, her three older siblings and her grandparents and where Huckaby resided with her grandparents.

Sandra's disappearance triggered a 10-day search that gripped Tracy. Her body, stuffed in a suitcase, was found by farmworkers draining an irrigation pond two miles from the mobile home park.

Hours before her arrest, Huckaby told a reporter for the Tracy Press that the suitcase was hers. She said it had been stolen out of her driveway the day Sandra vanished.

Huckaby had already been undergoing mental evaluation as a result of an earlier petty theft conviction, and relatives said she had battled depression. Sources said she tried to commit suicide in the days before her arrest, leading her to be hospitalized.

Besides the murder and rape charges, Huckaby is accused of child endangerment and furnishing a harmful substance. Those counts are related to her alleged drugging of a 7-year-old girl and a man in the months before Sandra died.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/09/10/BA8S19L7AA.DTL

[deacon]

San Joaquin seeking death in Sandra Cantu case


(09-10) 14:05 PDT STOCKTON -- San Joaquin County prosecutors will ask for the death penalty for the Sunday school teacher accused of raping and murdering an 8-year-old playmate of her daughter in Tracy, authorities said today.

Melissa Huckaby, 28, was indicted in July on a murder charge and three special circumstances in the death of Sandra Cantu - including that she killed during the commission of a rape - that make her eligible for execution if convicted. Huckaby was also accused of sexually assaulting a child under 10.

The decision to seek lethal execution was made by District Attorney James Willett, who consulted with attorneys in his office as well as Sandra's family, authorities said.

Huckaby pleaded not guilty at a hearing today in San Joaquin County Superior Court in Stockton. Judge Linda Lofthus revealed that the defense had hired a change-of-venue expert from Chico State University, suggesting that Huckaby wants to move her trial elsewhere.

Huckaby also sought to remove her lawyer, Deputy Public Defender Sam Behar, from the case, but Lofthus denied the motion. The reason for Huckaby's request was not explained, and a gag order prevents lawyers from talking about the case outside court.

Huckaby will return to court Sept. 25, at which time the judge could set a trial date, possibly in March.

Huckaby is accused of killing Sandra after the girl went to her house to play with Huckaby's 5-year-old daughter March 27.

Much is still not known about the case, and authorities have not gone into detail about how they believe Sandra died.

However, sources close to the investigation have told The Chronicle that they believe the girl was deliberately killed at the Clover Road Baptist Church, where Huckaby's grandfather is the pastor and where she taught Sunday school.

The church is two blocks from the mobile home park where Sandra lived with her mother, her three older siblings and her grandparents and where Huckaby resided with her grandparents.

Sandra's disappearance triggered a 10-day search that gripped Tracy. Her body, stuffed in a suitcase, was found by farmworkers draining an irrigation pond two miles from the mobile home park.

Hours before her arrest, Huckaby told a reporter for the Tracy Press that the suitcase was hers. She said it had been stolen out of her driveway the day Sandra vanished.

Huckaby had already been undergoing mental evaluation as a result of an earlier petty theft conviction, and relatives said she had battled depression. Sources said she tried to commit suicide in the days before her arrest, leading her to be hospitalized.

Besides the murder and rape charges, Huckaby is accused of child endangerment and furnishing a harmful substance. Those counts are related to her alleged drugging of a 7-year-old girl and a man in the months before Sandra died.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/09/10/BA8S19L7AA.DTL

I read that a minute ago. Interesting that when they announced they were seeking the DP she wants a new lawyer. Also interesting how the one she has is wanting so much time before the trial.

[Amy]

I read that a minute ago. Interesting that when they announced they were seeking the DP she wants a new lawyer. Also interesting how the one she has is wanting so much time before the trial.

I'm sure I'd be grasping @ straws, too, if I were charged with murder--heck w/about anything.

However don't they think (the defense) that they could spend their dollars more wisely than to hire a "change of venue expert lawyer." COV is pretty much used when there is excessive news coverage, where the potential jury pool can be contaminated by all sorts of wrong information, etc, right? Heck, we barely even hear there is a hearing in this case, and certainly no information is coming out where the media or the public has anything to base any rumors on!!! The gag order is mighty effective in this case, IMO.

Well, I guess locals can be rumoring, and we might not know that, because the media is basically focusing on whatever tidbits might be garnered thru the scant releases. Even this board is relatively quiet, except for press releases. Don't know about any other boards.

[deacon]

I'm sure I'd be grasping @ straws, too, if I were charged with murder--heck w/about anything.

However don't they think (the defense) that they could spend their dollars more wisely than to hire a "change of venue expert lawyer." COV is pretty much used when there is excessive news coverage, where the potential jury pool can be contaminated by all sorts of wrong information, etc, right? Heck, we barely even hear there is a hearing in this case, and certainly no information is coming out where the media or the public has anything to base any rumors on!!! The gag order is mighty effective in this case, IMO.

Well, I guess locals can be rumoring, and we might not know that, because the media is basically focusing on whatever tidbits might be garnered thru the scant releases. Even this board is relatively quiet, except for press releases. Don't know about any other boards.

I think in this case it is the outrage of what happened. The only problem is that outrage would be there if the trial were held on Mars.:mad:

[Amy]

I think in this case it is the outrage of what happened. The only problem is that outrage would be there if the trial were held on Mars.:mad:

I was trying to think of how to say that part, thanks. Yes, the outrage of the community. But, they have to go to the trial to hear the finer details of the evidence. If COV were allowed because of the outrage of the community that the crime occured, it would seem every single trial of murder would have a COV.

[lorettalockhorn]

I'm sure I'd be grasping @ straws, too, if I were charged with murder--heck w/about anything.

However don't they think (the defense) that they could spend their dollars more wisely than to hire a "change of venue expert lawyer." COV is pretty much used when there is excessive news coverage, where the potential jury pool can be contaminated by all sorts of wrong information, etc, right? Heck, we barely even hear there is a hearing in this case, and certainly no information is coming out where the media or the public has anything to base any rumors on!!! The gag order is mighty effective in this case, IMO.

Well, I guess locals can be rumoring, and we might not know that, because the media is basically focusing on whatever tidbits might be garnered thru the scant releases. Even this board is relatively quiet, except for press releases. Don't know about any other boards.

I don't think there is a chance in Hades (at this point) for a change of venue or the judge wouldn't have issued the gag order. On JVM tonight, there wasn't even footage of today's hearing. This judge has shut it down. And good for him. (As much as we want to know what the heck's going on.)

[lorettalockhorn]

I think in this case it is the outrage of what happened. The only problem is that outrage would be there if the trial were held on Mars.:mad:

Since the autopsy is sealed and the gag order is in place, I don't think we can even imagine the outrage; sacrilegious maybe?

[wind149]

CA spends big bucks on these death penalty cases, the person receives it and then spends decades sitting on the tax payer's dimes, meanwhile, there is always some bleeder willing to go to the mat and ADVOCATE for THEIR LIVES and CA has more appeals than any other state so it is safe to assume I will be in my grave when they execute this horrible b!tch!! I say take her out back and hang her from the nearest tree!!! Saves big bucks don't it? I watched a thing on Iraq punishments and boy are we too kind here!! A guy was castrated, then whipped at least 100 lashes and this guy was clearly suffering and then they beheaded him? He raped a 5 year old girl and she clearly got justice and this is why this country needs more painful way to kill maggots like this broad, not just put a needle in their arms. This whole case makes me sick to my stomach and this scum maggot will not get to use an insanity defense on a death penalty case and she is not mentally ill, just a plain evil woman who raped a child with God only Knows what she used and frankly, I wish they would advise what she did use, but I don't think that will come out till trial.

[One2Snoop]

I'm sure I'd be grasping @ straws, too, if I were charged with murder--heck w/about anything.

However don't they think (the defense) that they could spend their dollars more wisely than to hire a "change of venue expert lawyer." COV is pretty much used when there is excessive news coverage, where the potential jury pool can be contaminated by all sorts of wrong information, etc, right? Heck, we barely even hear there is a hearing in this case, and certainly no information is coming out where the media or the public has anything to base any rumors on!!! The gag order is mighty effective in this case, IMO.

Well, I guess locals can be rumoring, and we might not know that, because the media is basically focusing on whatever tidbits might be garnered thru the scant releases. Even this board is relatively quiet, except for press releases. Don't know about any other boards.

Tracy is actually a very small community. Think back to Scott Peterson and Modesto, the same thing. Tracy and Modesto are not that far from each other. Small community - lot's of farm area's out this way but the community is small. Tracy has grown in the past 8 years but I still believe it holds a small community "Awareness" if that makes any sense?

I'm confident LE has the right person under arrest and they also have all their ducks in a row on this one.

I hope the judge in this case considers what happened in the Peterson case - it didn't matter they moved the case to another jurisdiction, it didn't matter the games they played in his defense, he was still found guilty of murdering his wife, Lacy and son, Conner.


There's no way in hell she's getting off, my only worry is the insanity plea.

[Marian Paroo]

I wouldn't worry about an insanity plea.

She doesn't have the kind of money that Hinkley had/has.

[JLette]

CA spends big bucks on these death penalty cases, the person receives it and then spends decades sitting on the tax payer's dimes, meanwhile, there is always some bleeder willing to go to the mat and ADVOCATE for THEIR LIVES and CA has more appeals than any other state so it is safe to assume I will be in my grave when they execute this horrible b!tch!! I say take her out back and hang her from the nearest tree!!! Saves big bucks don't it? I watched a thing on Iraq punishments and boy are we too kind here!! A guy was castrated, then whipped at least 100 lashes and this guy was clearly suffering and then they beheaded him? He raped a 5 year old girl and she clearly got justice and this is why this country needs more painful way to kill maggots like this broad, not just put a needle in their arms. This whole case makes me sick to my stomach and this scum maggot will not get to use an insanity defense on a death penalty case and she is not mentally ill, just a plain evil woman who raped a child with God only Knows what she used and frankly, I wish they would advise what she did use, but I don't think that will come out till trial.

ITA wind. i have been saying that for ages now, for ALL death penalty recipients. why spend all that money on someone who has already been deemed worthy to die? we could just give them a choice like the old west, shooting gallery, hanging etc. cheap, affective, and fitting to scum like that

[SaraSidle]

ITA wind. i have been saying that for ages now, for ALL death penalty recipients. why spend all that money on someone who has already been deemed worthy to die? we could just give them a choice like the old west, shooting gallery, hanging etc. cheap, affective, and fitting to scum like that

I do not care how Just soon not year and years later imo

[Marian Paroo]

ITA wind. i have been saying that for ages now, for ALL death penalty recipients. why spend all that money on someone who has already been deemed worthy to die? we could just give them a choice like the old west, shooting gallery, hanging etc. cheap, affective, and fitting to scum like that

Like Gary Gimore in Utah. 1977? He chose shooting.