Haleigh Cummings 5yrs old Missing

[lorettalockhorn]

Tipster video:

http://www.actionnewsjax.com/mediacenter/local.aspx?videoId=33822@wtev.dayport.com&navCatId=5

Windchime video (at abou 1:45):

http://www.wesh.com/video/17947522/index.html

[beemer]

Thanks for the links Loretta. I guess it will all come out in the wash.

[wind149]

While she does resemble Terry, I do not think that is her, but who the hell is she? Maybe some sick puppy trying to get herself some attention or thinking maybe she wants to get herself some of that reward money??? I am totally surprised more of those hillbillies in Satsuma did not try that angle seeing as that town is full of scumbags and not much else??? Now if this is plausible and it does pan out and Haleigh's body is recovered, then I will think of this woman as a true hero, but I have doubts that this is legit. As for honey pie and Ron, I guess the honeymoon is over, as far as I know, they are not reunited and I am guessing they won't because I suspect Ron in his pea brain is finally getting a neuron flash that this skank probably did kill his child. But I am still torn as to how much he does know, we know other people, despite the fact they know their spouse or partner abused or murdered their child and they kept their mouths shut because they love them so much? So of these losers allowed them to sexually abuse their children like that one scumbag POS woman who allowed her boyfreind to have her six year old daughter for a birthday treat instead of a cake and the abuse did not stop there, she actually HELPED HIM abuse this poor child till finally she came forward and both of these maggots were arrested and convicted, he got 40 and she got 30 years and here she is whining on WE that he MADE HER DO IT BECAUSE SHE WAS SCARED OF HIM!! You don't know the way to the cop shop or know how to pick up a phone? And then she furtherly pisses me off by saying she was AFRAID SHE WOULD LOSE HIM BECAUSE HE WAS THE BEST LOOKING GUY SHE HAD BEEN WITH??? So let's put this to a vote.

How many think Ron does know??

How many think he doesn't???

[lorettalockhorn]

While she does resemble Terry, I do not think that is her, but who the hell is she? Maybe some sick puppy trying to get herself some attention or thinking maybe she wants to get herself some of that reward money??? I am totally surprised more of those hillbillies in Satsuma did not try that angle seeing as that town is full of scumbags and not much else??? Now if this is plausible and it does pan out and Haleigh's body is recovered, then I will think of this woman as a true hero, but I have doubts that this is legit. As for honey pie and Ron, I guess the honeymoon is over, as far as I know, they are not reunited and I am guessing they won't because I suspect Ron in his pea brain is finally getting a neuron flash that this skank probably did kill his child. But I am still torn as to how much he does know, we know other people, despite the fact they know their spouse or partner abused or murdered their child and they kept their mouths shut because they love them so much? So of these losers allowed them to sexually abuse their children like that one scumbag POS woman who allowed her boyfreind to have her six year old daughter for a birthday treat instead of a cake and the abuse did not stop there, she actually HELPED HIM abuse this poor child till finally she came forward and both of these maggots were arrested and convicted, he got 40 and she got 30 years and here she is whining on WE that he MADE HER DO IT BECAUSE SHE WAS SCARED OF HIM!! You don't know the way to the cop shop or know how to pick up a phone? And then she furtherly pisses me off by saying she was AFRAID SHE WOULD LOSE HIM BECAUSE HE WAS THE BEST LOOKING GUY SHE HAD BEEN WITH??? So let's put this to a vote.

How many think Ron does know??

How many think he doesn't???

Maybe this Adonis had all his teeth?!

http://www.globalteammentors.com/check_mark.jpg Ron knows. But what? This thing goes both ways IMO. Misty knows something too.

[lorettalockhorn]

BNN Exclusive - Haleigh Cummings – Another Jail House Letter Surfaces

There have been some rumors floating around about the Haleigh Cummings case for a couple of days, I opted not to publish them without some firm back up. Well I have the proof now. My good friend, investigator William ‘Cobra’ Staubs has managed to find what no one else could. Some people have been casting doubts about Cobra’s involvement in the search for Haleigh Cummings, I can assure you that there is no one working harder on this case than he is.

The PSCO has made various conflicting statements about how seriously they took the jail house letter from Nay Nay Prevat. In fact at least one of the (way too many) people going on record have stated that it was complete rubbish, and went on to chastise the press for even fooling with it. Well, if that first letter was rubbish, why did PCSO go to such great lengths to drain the Mondex pond? Interesting that the letter turned up the very same day.

This second letter is also interesting, and no doubt will have Putnam’s finest reaching for the bottle of Tums...

http://www.bloggernews.net/122398

Link to new letter inside, but very difficult to read.

[beemer]

Thanks for the link Loretta. My gawd reading some of these letters it is so disheartening. What a way of life :mad:
Wind-not sure what Ron knows but i think he knows something. Misty i believe knows more than she is telling. It seems that they all cover for each other down there. I guess if they all are involved in something illegal its the way it is there. You keep your mouth shut or somebody will make you pay.

[Marian Paroo]

Thanks for the link Loretta. My gawd reading some of these letters it is so disheartening. What a way of life :mad:
Wind-not sure what Ron knows but i think he knows something. Misty i believe knows more than she is telling. It seems that they all cover for each other down there. I guess if they all are involved in something illegal its the way it is there. You keep your mouth shut or somebody will make you pay.

It may be like some of what happens here -- yes, we know that something wrong is happening, but we will not betray one of our own to The Other.

[Nawny]

While she does resemble Terry, I do not think that is her, but who the hell is she? Maybe some sick puppy trying to get herself some attention or thinking maybe she wants to get herself some of that reward money??? I am totally surprised more of those hillbillies in Satsuma did not try that angle seeing as that town is full of scumbags and not much else??? Now if this is plausible and it does pan out and Haleigh's body is recovered, then I will think of this woman as a true hero, but I have doubts that this is legit. As for honey pie and Ron, I guess the honeymoon is over, as far as I know, they are not reunited and I am guessing they won't because I suspect Ron in his pea brain is finally getting a neuron flash that this skank probably did kill his child. But I am still torn as to how much he does know, we know other people, despite the fact they know their spouse or partner abused or murdered their child and they kept their mouths shut because they love them so much? So of these losers allowed them to sexually abuse their children like that one scumbag POS woman who allowed her boyfreind to have her six year old daughter for a birthday treat instead of a cake and the abuse did not stop there, she actually HELPED HIM abuse this poor child till finally she came forward and both of these maggots were arrested and convicted, he got 40 and she got 30 years and here she is whining on WE that he MADE HER DO IT BECAUSE SHE WAS SCARED OF HIM!! You don't know the way to the cop shop or know how to pick up a phone? And then she furtherly pisses me off by saying she was AFRAID SHE WOULD LOSE HIM BECAUSE HE WAS THE BEST LOOKING GUY SHE HAD BEEN WITH??? So let's put this to a vote.

How many think Ron does know??
How many think he doesn't???

Well thinking back to the first video of him doing Othello on the ground for the camera man, and thinking back to his threat to the person who stole his child while on the phone with the 911 operator, then thinking back to his total change of demeanor when he asked who ever had his daughter to bring her back and he would not hurt them. I'm confused. And yet, and yet, the fact that he did a nine point nine turn regarding his anger at who took her, it appears that he learned something between the 911 call and the gentle presentation on TV for her (ahem) return.

Also, TN told NG that Ron suffers at night when he cries alone.

Yeah, he knows something.

[Etherealgirl]

Hmmm, that's some good thinking EG. Open minded people like you can connect thoughts like that and apply them, often hitting the mystery dead center. I wonder where Misty is. She may be enjoying her last supper soon.

I've heard so many things it's difficult to keep them all straight. My mind's so open sometime stuff just falls out, lol.

[Etherealgirl]

Your What If makes as much sense as any other supposition. On the one hand we have Misty on vacay at the expense of TN's boyfriend to clear her head (of what? cobwebs??), and on the other hand we have AH saying that Ron&Misty are breaking up. Guess that means they don't like like each other any more. About the only thing that I did glean from Geraldo last night is that the letter refers to a search behind the trailer (but not sure when that happened).

Sometimes I think the best thoughts come when we're tired or just practicing free association since we don't limit ideas. :shrug:

One of the things that really bothers me happened early on in this case. And it's been sooooo long no wonder people forget things and I really hope LE hasn't forgotten.

Contempt of court charges were filed against Ron right before Haleigh went missing. Hours before, in fact. For letting her miss so much school, and he had been warned before they were filed and knew when it would happen.

But of course it could just be big old coincidence.

But LE acts like his passing his polygraph is some reason not to suspect him. The Green River killer passed his first polygraph (and I'm not saying Ron is a killer and certainly not comparing him to the Green River killer).

And I can't for the life of me hear anything but BS in his voice on the 911 tape. But that very could be just because I can't stand the man because of the kind of father he is...or maybe I should say isn't.

[Etherealgirl]

While she does resemble Terry, I do not think that is her, but who the hell is she? Maybe some sick puppy trying to get herself some attention or thinking maybe she wants to get herself some of that reward money??? I am totally surprised more of those hillbillies in Satsuma did not try that angle seeing as that town is full of scumbags and not much else??? Now if this is plausible and it does pan out and Haleigh's body is recovered, then I will think of this woman as a true hero, but I have doubts that this is legit. As for honey pie and Ron, I guess the honeymoon is over, as far as I know, they are not reunited and I am guessing they won't because I suspect Ron in his pea brain is finally getting a neuron flash that this skank probably did kill his child. But I am still torn as to how much he does know, we know other people, despite the fact they know their spouse or partner abused or murdered their child and they kept their mouths shut because they love them so much? So of these losers allowed them to sexually abuse their children like that one scumbag POS woman who allowed her boyfreind to have her six year old daughter for a birthday treat instead of a cake and the abuse did not stop there, she actually HELPED HIM abuse this poor child till finally she came forward and both of these maggots were arrested and convicted, he got 40 and she got 30 years and here she is whining on WE that he MADE HER DO IT BECAUSE SHE WAS SCARED OF HIM!! You don't know the way to the cop shop or know how to pick up a phone? And then she furtherly pisses me off by saying she was AFRAID SHE WOULD LOSE HIM BECAUSE HE WAS THE BEST LOOKING GUY SHE HAD BEEN WITH??? So let's put this to a vote.

How many think Ron does know??

How many think he doesn't???

I think Ron knows and is involved, either directly or indirectly.
I know Ron is responsible for whatever happened because of who he left his kids with that night. He is very lucky something didn't happen to his son.

His demeanor on the 911 tape tells me he is involved. Most of what he did was repeatedly defend himself. "I was at work, blah, blah".

Where was Jr.? I didn't hear him in the background and according to numerous sources both of the kids were a 'handful' (with good reason). Surely either Misty or Ron woke him and asked him where Haleigh was? I mean that would be the first thing you would do. Yet it's apparent he was still sleeping. Was it because they knew where she was and staged the 911 call?

Why did he take the scenic route (stopping for beer, etc) coming home from work, especially when he couldn't contact Misty for hours?

I don't think he or Misty intentionally did something to her. But I believe they are both involved, equally.

[lorettalockhorn]

...Now, there is letter number two, also obtained by private investigator Williams Staubs, aka Cobra, from a Satsuma source close to Nay Nay we also spoke with who confirms their authenticity. Number 2 offers more details of Prevatt’s confrontation by that confrontation. Whether this theory of what happened to Haleigh holds up, or not, and both Prevatt, WBG and Misty have proclaimed their innocence, and sources tell me previously Page and Nay Nay were ruled out as connected.

While we don’t know if this changes things, it offers a fascinating look at the strategy detectives are using to pressure those close to Misty in the hopes any kernal of information can be squeezed, and we hear Misty is keeping up with the goings – on while on the road, distraught as other family members go to jail — lately her mother — and weeping that, at least for now, husband Ronald Cummings refuses to pick up her calls, our Satsuma sources tell us.

The letters also say Nay Nay’s car was used to transport Haleigh’s body, which, if true, would make it a crucial resting place for any possible DNA evidence. But the letters do not reveal what tests police may have run on the car they recently seized from the junkyard, says Nay Nay, ‘CSI ****.”

Private investigator William Staubs says he urged investigators to seize the car months ago when he learned that another young woman had borrowed the car and told Nay Nay she’d gotten it it stuck in the mud in the woods. He says it was never done. Police could not be reached for comment about the car Sunday.

In an exclusive videotaped interview published at artharris.com, click on and listen how Prevatt details how she got angry at Brooks over the dent in her trunk. She says Brooks first denied she’d done it, then said it must have happened when she asked a friend to push the car out of the mud.

Cobra also tells me Nay Nay related how Brooks rushed over to borrow the car upon learning authorities might be coming to test it. Nay Nay related how Brooks took clothes belonging to her and Misty from the trunk, then dumped possible cleaning fluid inside.

Investigators deny this was the car some claimed was pulled from the pond, and that the flatbed truck spotted with a car atop it along the road leading from the pond last week came from a neighbor who was having it towed. Submerged or not, we’re curious whether any DNA evidence might be still recovered from the car, after sitting in the junkyard, and whether any Amber Brooks has ever been quizzed about the allegations she used the car and cleaned out the trunk.

http://www.artharris.com/2009/09/27/jailhouse-letter-2-takes-us-inside-haleigh-cummings-case/#more-3083

[deacon]

It's real, you can believe it. I've seen it first hand, not quite as bad as with the Cummings and Croslins, but then all I've been exposed to is bits and pieces.

But it's there and it's all over the place. There's equal amounts of southern white trash as there is northern white trash. And other colors as well.

Their accents and affect in speech may be different, but just as "a rose is a rose", 'trash is trash'. The scary thing is they don't know it.

And you can't fix stupid.

[lorettalockhorn]

Exclusive: Art Harris on Geraldo, Believes “Break” in Haleigh Cummings Soon

http://www.artharris.com/2009/09/27/exclusive-art-harris-on-geraldo-believes-break-in-haleigh-cummings-soon/

[lorettalockhorn]

And you can't fix stupid.

Can't we at least fix it as in spay or neuter?! :hat:

[Justice Denied?]

So did I! And that's the only reason I watched it. I heard all over the place it was going to be on there.

For the longest time though, I couldn't for the life of me understand why RC and TN defended Misty. But recently it's been almost like a revelation. I believe they know that when Misty goes down, Ron goes with her. That's the only reason I can think of for TN defending her.

And I'm not saying they did something intentional to Haleigh. But I am willing to bet if Misty is arrested, that Ron will be arrested within a week.

But I could be wrong, because these aren't normal, law-abiding citizens we are dealing with here. :confused:

I could very easily be wrong but I believe that RC & TN are at least appearing to defend Misti to keep her fron taking off for parts unknown. Then the case would never get solved. Wasn't it TN who called Tim Miller just before the lie detector test and said that Misti was just about ready to break? I think they bekieve they think she will break eventually and they want to be around when it happens. However, I won't discount the possibility of Ron being involved. I just think he was sincere when he said on the 911 tape, "why did you let my daughter get taken, *****?"

[deacon]

Can't we at least fix it as in spay or neuter?! :hat:

That only fixes the next generation. It does nothing for this generation.

This is a classic case of long term inability to raise children in a particular community. No real parents obvious in this situation. There may be biological parents but no real parents. You know, the ones who raise their children to respect others and to be responsible for what they do.

[Etherealgirl]

I could very easily be wrong but I believe that RC & TN are at least appearing to defend Misti to keep her fron taking off for parts unknown. Then the case would never get solved. Wasn't it TN who called Tim Miller just before the lie detector test and said that Misti was just about ready to break? I think they bekieve they think she will break eventually and they want to be around when it happens. However, I won't discount the possibility of Ron being involved. I just think he was sincere when he said on the 911 tape, "why did you let my daughter get taken, *****?"

You could also very easily be right. :) I sure hope we find out the truth someday, no matter what it is, for Haleigh's sake.

The thing that bothers me is that all 3 of them are lying and have been caught in their lies. RC, MC and TN. They are on video lying about numerous things (such as times and who picked up Haleigh). Ron has also lied by "omission" in neglecting to tell (until recently) that he tried calling Misty and couldn't get in touch with her. I want to know why they lied? It makes me think they have something to hide. At least that's been the case in my life, I've never known anyone to lie unless they were hiding the truth.

And to me at least, that thing about keeping track of her just doesn't work. I see it as appeasing her to keep her from pointing the finger at someone they want to protect..probably Ron.

And I see "why did you let my daughter get taken *****" as another statement to clear himself, the same as "I was at work". It sounded to me like he was making it clear (up front) that he had nothing to do with her disappearance.

But I don't know, I am just guessing, the same as everyone else, and probably when the truth does come out it will be so bizarre it's never even been considered by anyone anywhere.

[Etherealgirl]

That only fixes the next generation. It does nothing for this generation.

This is a classic case of long term inability to raise children in a particular community. No real parents obvious in this situation. There may be biological parents but no real parents. You know, the ones who raise their children to respect others and to be responsible for what they do.

Very well put and so very true.

[lorettalockhorn]

That only fixes the next generation. It does nothing for this generation.

This is a classic case of long term inability to raise children in a particular community. No real parents obvious in this situation. There may be biological parents but no real parents. You know, the ones who raise their children to respect others and to be responsible for what they do.

I think that's a foregone conclusion that we've all come to.

And it's a shame that with no parenting skills apparent with so many of these players that the State and the County don't seem to give rat's ass either. Sounds like a thesis on stratification dying to be written.

[lorettalockhorn]

You could also very easily be right. :) I sure hope we find out the truth someday, no matter what it is, for Haleigh's sake.

The thing that bothers me is that all 3 of them are lying and have been caught in their lies. RC, MC and TN. They are on video lying about numerous things (such as times and who picked up Haleigh). Ron has also lied by "omission" in neglecting to tell (until recently) that he tried calling Misty and couldn't get in touch with her. I want to know why they lied? It makes me think they have something to hide. At least that's been the case in my life, I've never known anyone to lie unless they were hiding the truth.

And to me at least, that thing about keeping track of her just doesn't work. I see it as appeasing her to keep her from pointing the finger at someone they want to protect..probably Ron.

And I see "why did you let my daughter get taken *****" as another statement to clear himself, the same as "I was at work". It sounded to me like he was making it clear (up front) that he had nothing to do with her disappearance.

But I don't know, I am just guessing, the same as everyone else, and probably when the truth does come out it will be so bizarre it's never even been considered by anyone anywhere.

Mr. Prior at the Record did say that if the contents of the tipster delivered letter could be verified that it would be volatile. Well, what the heck hasn't been volatile already?! He also said that if LE verified the contents that they would be printed, so I don't look forward to that happening until the time is right. I get the impression that LE's strategy here is carrot/stick/carrot/stick. Ex: Hankie is brought in with a $50K bond, but it's lowered to a reasonable $5K soon after the phone call information comes out. (Not sure why LE didn't already know about Ron's calls to Misty and Tommy before though after all this time.)

[Etherealgirl]

I think that's a foregone conclusion that we've all come to.

And it's a shame that with no parenting skills apparent with so many of these players that the State and the County don't seem to give rat's ass either. Sounds like a thesis on stratification dying to be written.

It is a shame indeed. These people have no "moral compass", and it's generational (in their case).

Unless something happens to cause one of them to be removed from the entire family and allows them to be exposed to something else, it will continue. They mimic what they see. They don't know any better. Literally.

The closest thing they have to morality is usually The Bible, but they interpret it the same way their parents do because they don't have the learning skills to do otherwise,

I had a patient once that actually escaped from that lifestyle. It took months of counseling her about self esteem, and letting her know that just because she was born to that particular family didn't mean she had to stay there, and sometimes we actually get to choose our family. She turned her back on all of them and never looked back.

[deacon]

It is a shame indeed. These people have no "moral compass", and it's generational (in their case).

Unless something happens to cause one of them to be removed from the entire family and allows them to be exposed to something else, it will continue. They mimic what they see. They don't know any better. Literally.

The closest thing they have to morality is usually The Bible, but they interpret it the same way their parents do because they don't have the learning skills to do otherwise,
I had a patient once that actually escaped from that lifestyle. It took months of counseling her about self esteem, and letting her know that just because she was born to that particular family didn't mean she had to stay there, and sometimes we actually get to choose our family. She turned her back on all of them and never looked back.

And the ones who teach them the Bible have no idea what they are talking about. They are more worried about politics than they are about what the Bible really teaches.

Case in point: Jesus would not be considered a conservative today. He would be more of a liberal.

[Nawny]

And the ones who teach them the Bible have no idea what they are talking about. They are more worried about politics than they are about what the Bible really teaches.

Case in point: Jesus would not be considered a conservative today. He would be more of a liberal.

:) Yep!

[Nawny]

I could very easily be wrong but I believe that RC & TN are at least appearing to defend Misti to keep her fron taking off for parts unknown. Then the case would never get solved. Wasn't it TN who called Tim Miller just before the lie detector test and said that Misti was just about ready to break? I think they bekieve they think she will break eventually and they want to be around when it happens. However, I won't discount the possibility of Ron being involved. I just think he was sincere when he said on the 911 tape, "why did you let my daughter get taken, *****?"

Indeed, perhaps Ron knew about the party and in fact could have let her go in order to get him some drugs. Drug addicts do some pretty stupid things when they're desperate. Did he say, "WHY" did you let my daughter be taken? Or "HOW" did you let my daughter be taken? Hmmm, I think he referred to Haleigh as "My Child" No matter.. but it is possible that he knew about the party. I suspect that in the end, when Misty's back is against the wall, she'll tell all.

He didn't seem to go on about those phone calls she didn't answer. :shrug: I think he knew exactly where she was.

[Nawny]

It is a shame indeed. These people have no "moral compass", and it's generational (in their case).

Unless something happens to cause one of them to be removed from the entire family and allows them to be exposed to something else, it will continue. They mimic what they see. They don't know any better. Literally.

The closest thing they have to morality is usually The Bible, but they interpret it the same way their parents do because they don't have the learning skills to do otherwise,

I had a patient once that actually escaped from that lifestyle. It took months of counseling her about self esteem, and letting her know that just because she was born to that particular family didn't mean she had to stay there, and sometimes we actually get to choose our family. She turned her back on all of them and never looked back.

One always gets away EG. :beer:
John Bradshaw wrote a few books on the subjectof the mobile that gets cockeyed when one in a dysfunctional family gets loose. They raise hell to get that player back. That concept has also been referred to as the boat that threatens to tip over when one family member refuses to play along and breaks away.

It's a seriously damaging escape and I am praying that patient finds peace in the long run. It is very hard to actually face and accept that a person's biological family cannot love them. It is possible to get away and begin a life without them, but not easy at first.

[Amy]

WHOA!!! That's $400 dollars less then I pay and Poppa is an insurance broker. Mine just went up near $220 dollars! No dental coverage! A few years ago I had 4 crowns put in my mouth. I could have gone to Europe for a month and stayed at the Excelsior overlooking the Bay of Naples for less. :cuss:

My dental insurance doesn't cover things like crowns in full. I have to pay half. It's been a while so am not sure how much that half is. The gal who used to do my hair said they paid a certain amount for crowns when they didn't have dental coverage. They got dental coverage, and their share was---the same as what they paid when they had NO insurance!!!

I can believe it, too. When I was looking into bandaide tubal ligation, I was going to have to pay cash because I work for a Catholic organization and our insurance did not cover this. So, @ one place I was price checking @, I was told the procedure would be $1500. When I explained I would be paying cash, no insurance, I was told, "Oh, then it will be $750!!!" WHAT????

I don't know if it is the dentist or hospital or who--but it seems that, if you have insurance, the price just doubles, and you still pay out of pocket what you would have, no insurance. That is, for some things. Cuz there are other things the insurance pays for in full, once I have met my deductable.

[Amy]

Is Terry the Baker Acted lady from the Caylee case?

Her name is Joy. Can't remember the last name right off.

[Nawny]

Can't we at least fix it as in spay or neuter?! :hat:

:eek: rotfl! Bad :punch: Blue Chair for you!

[SaraSidle]

Loretta that lady in scrubs has some kind of name tag pinned to her top.
I am surprised no one has tried to read it or they have but are not telling us. If it was Windchime and she has a job somewhere in health care she would not really want to out herself would she??? Might lose her job?? IMO

[Nawny]

My dental insurance doesn't cover things like crowns in full. I have to pay half. It's been a while so am not sure how much that half is. The gal who used to do my hair said they paid a certain amount for crowns when they didn't have dental coverage. They got dental coverage, and their share was---the same as what they paid when they had NO insurance!!!

I can believe it, too. When I was looking into bandaide tubal ligation, I was going to have to pay cash because I work for a Catholic organization and our insurance did not cover this. So, @ one place I was price checking @, I was told the procedure would be $1500. When I explained I would be paying cash, no insurance, I was told, "Oh, then it will be $750!!!" WHAT???? I don't know if it is the dentist or hospital or who--but it seems that, if you have insurance, the price just doubles, and you still pay out of pocket what you would have, no insurance. That is, for some things. Cuz there are other things the insurance pays for in full, once I have met my deductable.


I have no dental coverage. When we women reach a hundred thousand miles it seems the teeth need work. Oh and yes, when they doctors see that insurance coverage, didn't you ever notice the little pee pee dance their feet do? It is a legal form of Jessie James!

[beemer]

Her name is Joy. Can't remember the last name right off.

That's right Amy-thank you. Lordy as if both these cases aren't bad enough the last thing we would need is cross over's.

[Nawny]

That's right Amy-thank you. Lordy as if both these cases aren't bad enough the last thing we would need is cross over's.

These two cases are really taxing my CRS disorder! I remember Joy, yep. Honest! I just don't remember her part in all this. :(

[Marian Paroo]

I can believe it, too. When I was looking into bandaide tubal ligation, I was going to have to pay cash because I work for a Catholic organization and our insurance did not cover this. So, @ one place I was price checking @, I was told the procedure would be $1500. When I explained I would be paying cash, no insurance, I was told, "Oh, then it will be $750!!!" WHAT????



Because of their religious beliefs?

[beemer]

These two cases are really taxing my CRS disorder! I remember Joy, yep. Honest! I just don't remember her part in all this. :(
Dont quote me better memories here than mine but she may have been that woman who came forward discussing the water levels-supporting that there was no water when LE and TM stated there was. Somebody correct me if i am wrong. I just remember she came forward with something and admitted she had been Baker Acted a few times.

[beemer]

Loretta that lady in scrubs has some kind of name tag pinned to her top.
I am surprised no one has tried to read it or they have but are not telling us. If it was Windchime and she has a job somewhere in health care she would not really want to out herself would she??? Might lose her job?? IMO
If it is her and she is in Health Care i hope she does lose her job. She is one sicko and I would hate to think of her caring for someone vulnerable. Yes would she want herself out there? I guess if she is sicker than we think :shrug:

[BeastofBears]

If it is her and she is in Health Care i hope she does lose her job. She is one sicko and I would hate to think of her caring for someone vulnerable. Yes would she want herself out there? I guess if she is sicker than we think :shrug:

Why would someone with that history be on a missing and exploited child board? Yet, WC was.

[beemer]

Does anyone know who is presently living in the Cumming's former trailer?

[Amy]

These two cases are really taxing my CRS disorder! I remember Joy, yep. Honest! I just don't remember her part in all this. :(

She was the one who reported that she had been @ various search sites and was putting out that the information given to the press wasn't accurate. I think the first one was pics of stuff @ JBP--when volunteers aren't supposed to have cameras? And then something about the dive @ Little Ebron or Ebo, I think she was accusing that things had been planted, can't remember if she named who would do this. I think she was also front and center trying to say that her "group" w/TES HAD searched where Caylee was eventually found, altho Tim Miller said it isn't so, and explained why. IIRC

[Amy]

Because of their religious beliefs?

No messing around w/reproductive issues. Unless there is a medical reason. Such as, if a woman wants a tubal ligation along w/the C/section, there has to be documentation about why it should be done, and because she does not want any more children isn't acceptable. That is for employees using their insurance, and for patients even not of the Catholic faith who are delivering @ the hospital. Those that want infertility treatments either pay on their own, or perhaps the spouse has insurance that covers it.

[Marian Paroo]

No messing around w/reproductive issues. Unless there is a medical reason. Such as, if a woman wants a tubal ligation along w/the C/section, there has to be documentation about why it should be done, and because she does not want any more children isn't acceptable. That is for employees using their insurance, and for patients even not of the Catholic faith who are delivering @ the hospital. Those that want infertility treatments either pay on their own, or perhaps the spouse has insurance that covers it.

Here tubal ligations are covered by our system if a doctor says it has to be done, and they are more than willing to agree to it if a woman has, well four kids for sure, maybe even fewer if they are laid back. And because Jewish law allows for assisted reproduction except for artificial insemination with another man's sperm (that is considered adultery) that is covered, too. Unlimited. One woman here was on them for 40 years before she had a kiddo.

[BeastofBears]

Here tubal ligations are covered by our system if a doctor says it has to be done, and they are more than willing to agree to it if a woman has, well four kids for sure, maybe even fewer if they are laid back. And because Jewish law allows for assisted reproduction except for artificial insemination with another man's sperm (that is considered adultery) that is covered, too. Unlimited. One woman here was on them for 40 years before she had a kiddo.

:eek: what age did she START?!

[Bullwinkle]

"A tip claiming it would lead detectives to the burial site for missing Putnam County girl Haleigh Cummings has been checked and not led to her discovery, investigators said. The location of the site described in the tip that was dropped off at offices of the St. Augustine Record Wednesday was not released by the Putnam County Sheriff's Office."

Article (http://jacksonville.com/news/metro/crime/2009-09-28/story/tip_in_haleigh_cummings_case_does_not_lead_to_a_bu rial_site)

"Today, detectives say the note contained information about a possible burial site for Haleigh, the girl who disappeared from her Satsuma home in February. Capt. Dick Schauland with the Putnam County Sheriff's Office says detectives followed up the tip, but found nothing, and they are still no closer to finding the girl."

Article (http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/topstories/news-article.aspx?storyid=145763&catid=3)

[Marian Paroo]

:eek: what age did she START?!

20. Fundamentalist Jew, probably married at 17.5, minimum for marriage here.

[Bullwinkle]

Last Wednesday (09/23/09) an unidentified woman stopped at the offices of the St. Augustine Record and dropped off a letter containing a tip as to the whereabouts of missing Haleigh Cummings. Detectives determined that the information in the letter needed further clarification, and Friday the video of the woman arriving at the St. Augustine Record was distributed to the media. The woman learned that the Sheriff’s Office’s needed to talk to her, and came to the Sheriff’s Office Friday afternoon.

The letter contained information about a possible burial site for Haleigh Cummings, the six year old girl reported missing from Satsuma, Florida. Detectives thoroughly followed up on the information provided, but the tip did not lead to Haleigh. This tip, as have the other more than 4,000 received in this case, has thus far not led to the recovery of Haleigh.

The woman who delivered the tip informed detectives that she was a messenger delivering the information for someone else. Her name, as well as the location of the burial site, is not being released.

- Captain Dick Schauland

Source (http://www.artharris.com/2009/09/28/haleigh-cummings-tipster-burial-site-info-a-bust-sheriff/)

[beemer]

It seems none of these tips are panning out to be anything. I think i believe what Art H. says. Now that Ron and Misty are apart just keep the heat on :shrug:

[lorettalockhorn]

Haleigh Cummings – BNN Radio Sun Sept/27 Wrap Up

...In the search for Haleigh Cummings it has been another busy week. Two jail house letters from Nay Nay Prevat surfaced thanks to the efforts of William Cobra Staubs. Law enforcement has claimed that the first letter was not of value, we in the press disagree. A second letter hit the streets yesterday and adds some further collaboration evidence. We are still waiting for Law Enforcement to comment.

Also this week a mysterious woman dressed in hospital scrubs dropped off an anonymous tip at a newspaper office. Who was the woman? The police are not saying, however, off the record TJ Hart has some interesting leads, I am sure that we will be hearing more about this woman and more importantly her background in coming days...

http://www.bloggernews.net/122407

[lorettalockhorn]

Does anyone know who is presently living in the Cumming's former trailer?

Can't remember her name, there was some speculation on other boards that she looks like the tipster.

[lorettalockhorn]

Dont quote me better memories here than mine but she may have been that woman who came forward discussing the water levels-supporting that there was no water when LE and TM stated there was. Somebody correct me if i am wrong. I just remember she came forward with something and admitted she had been Baker Acted a few times.

Joy Wray. Read her interview with LE and she seemed every bit as sane as G&C. (Sorry Joy for the left-handed compliment.) She may have been the one to take pix of the beads found in a tree at JB Park, later LP stated those beads matched some that Casey had, but others surmised they were left in memorial for Nicole Ganguzza.

[lorettalockhorn]

:eek: rotfl! Bad :punch: Blue Chair for you!

http://i31.tinypic.com/17egl2.jpg

[lorettalockhorn]

Last Wednesday (09/23/09) an unidentified woman stopped at the offices of the St. Augustine Record and dropped off a letter containing a tip as to the whereabouts of missing Haleigh Cummings. Detectives determined that the information in the letter needed further clarification, and Friday the video of the woman arriving at the St. Augustine Record was distributed to the media. The woman learned that the Sheriff’s Office’s needed to talk to her, and came to the Sheriff’s Office Friday afternoon.

The letter contained information about a possible burial site for Haleigh Cummings, the six year old girl reported missing from Satsuma, Florida. Detectives thoroughly followed up on the information provided, but the tip did not lead to Haleigh. This tip, as have the other more than 4,000 received in this case, has thus far not led to the recovery of Haleigh.

The woman who delivered the tip informed detectives that she was a messenger delivering the information for someone else. Her name, as well as the location of the burial site, is not being released.

- Captain Dick Schauland

Source (http://www.artharris.com/2009/09/28/haleigh-cummings-tipster-burial-site-info-a-bust-sheriff/)

Thanks so much! :seeya:

[beemer]

Joy Wray. Read her interview with LE and she seemed every bit as sane as G&C. (Sorry Joy for the left-handed compliment.) She may have been the one to take pix of the beads found in a tree at JB Park, later LP stated those beads matched some that Casey had, but others surmised they were left in memorial for Nicole Ganguzza.

Thanks for clarifying Loretta just so i dont think i did dream it did some lady come forward bout the water levels? Way too much here for this brain ;)

[beemer]

Haleigh Cummings – BNN Radio Sun Sept/27 Wrap Up

...In the search for Haleigh Cummings it has been another busy week. Two jail house letters from Nay Nay Prevat surfaced thanks to the efforts of William Cobra Staubs. Law enforcement has claimed that the first letter was not of value, we in the press disagree. A second letter hit the streets yesterday and adds some further collaboration evidence. We are still waiting for Law Enforcement to comment.

Also this week a mysterious woman dressed in hospital scrubs dropped off an anonymous tip at a newspaper office. Who was the woman? The police are not saying, however, off the record TJ Hart has some interesting leads, I am sure that we will be hearing more about this woman and more importantly her background in coming days...

http://www.bloggernews.net/122407

Uh Oh :eek:

[lorettalockhorn]

Uh Oh :eek:

Sounds ominous, eh?

[SaraSidle]

She was the one who reported that she had been @ various search sites and was putting out that the information given to the press wasn't accurate. I think the first one was pics of stuff @ JBP--when volunteers aren't supposed to have cameras? And then something about the dive @ Little Ebron or Ebo, I think she was accusing that things had been planted, can't remember if she named who would do this. I think she was also front and center trying to say that her "group" w/TES HAD searched where Caylee was eventually found, altho Tim Miller said it isn't so, and explained why. IIRC

I think she was a volunteer for Tim Miller and that is when she was still the admin at WS. about 5 WS posters went on the searach with Tim as volunteers
Not to confuse anyone I am talking about the lady in scrubs who maybe the admin at WS. (no longer)

[SaraSidle]

Uh Oh :eek:

that would be correct beems

[beemer]

My gawd as if the case alone isn't bad enough. I guess we will have to wait and see what comes out :confused::eek:

[beemer]

Sounds ominous, eh?

Oh yeah :eek:

[Nawny]

http://i31.tinypic.com/17egl2.jpg

Oh my, that's beautiful! :)


SIT in it now! :tongue:

[Nawny]

Haleigh Cummings – BNN Radio Sun Sept/27 Wrap Up

...In the search for Haleigh Cummings it has been another busy week. Two jail house letters from Nay Nay Prevat surfaced thanks to the efforts of William Cobra Staubs. Law enforcement has claimed that the first letter was not of value, we in the press disagree. A second letter hit the streets yesterday and adds some further collaboration evidence. We are still waiting for Law Enforcement to comment.

Also this week a mysterious woman dressed in hospital scrubs dropped off an anonymous tip at a newspaper office. Who was the woman? The police are not saying, however, off the record TJ Hart has some interesting leads, I am sure that we will be hearing more about this woman and more importantly her background in coming days...

http://www.bloggernews.net/122407

Awww jeeze! This case is over the top with misinformation. If this was on L&O it would take a week to see the whole thing.

Uh Oh :eek:

Yes Uh oh! :eek:

[lorettalockhorn]

Oh my, that's beautiful! :)


SIT in it now! :tongue:

hehehe My evil grandmother's blue chair was not nearly so beautiful.

[Bullwinkle]

"The woman who dropped off the letter came forward, but investigators said she told them she was the messenger for a man who claimed to be an FBI informant with special psychic abilities. Detectives were told the woman does not personally know the family or have any information about Haleigh's whereabouts. They would like to talk to the man who wrote the letter."

Source (http://www.news4jax.com/news/21137323/detail.html)

[lorettalockhorn]

"The woman who dropped off the letter came forward, but investigators said she told them she was the messenger for a man who claimed to be an FBI informant with special psychic abilities. Detectives were told the woman does not personally know the family or have any information about Haleigh's whereabouts. They would like to talk to the man who wrote the letter."

Source (http://www.news4jax.com/news/21137323/detail.html)

Heck, everyone who's been following Haleigh's disappearance wants to talk to the man!

So, do his psychic abilities tell him that he's in a world of sh!t if he's jacking everyone around?

[lorettalockhorn]

Cadaver dog search in Haleigh Cummings case does not find her

Specific tip prompts searchers to go over ground already covered

Investigators using cadaver-sensing dogs to check a tip describing the burial site for Putnam County’s missing Haleigh Cummings did not find her there.

The site near the Satsuma doublewide mobile home where the kindergartner disappeared in February had been checked before, said Capt. Dick Schauland of the Putnam County Sheriff’s Office. He said the search was retraced last week because the tip provided directions, distances and angles to turn.

“This tip was kind of specific,” he said.

Schauland said a woman who dropped the tip off at the St. Augustine Record Wednesday later told detectives she was passing it on from a retired FBI informant who is in his early 80s. He said she did not name the man.

“Hopefully she will get him to talk to us,” Schauland said. The woman’s name has not been released.

Investigators want to know where the man got his information.

Detectives have investigated more than 4,000 leads in the case.

Cadaver dogs had already checked the spot that was investigated again last week.

Haleigh was 5 years old when she disappeared from the residence where she and her younger brother lived with her father, Ronald Cummings, and his 17-year-old girlfriend, Misty Croslin, who has since married Cummings.

She called 911 early Feb. 10 to say she woke and found Haleigh missing.

Speculation about possible places where Haleigh may be found intensified this month with the draining of an isolated pond south of Palatka. No evidence was found in several days of searching the L-shaped pond in the Mondex area, investigators said.

Since the pond search, two jailhouse letters surfaced written by a friend of Misty Cummings saying police questioned her about another acquaintance describing a party where Haleigh ingested drugs and died and was taken to a pond.

Schauland said the search of the pond was not the result of the letters by Kristina “Naynay” Prevatt, who denied being at any such party.

Schauland said interviews with Prevatt were prompted by leads they were already following.

http://jacksonville.com/community/my_st_johns_sun/2009-09-28/story/cadaver_dog_search_in_haleigh_cummings_case_does_n ot_find

[lorettalockhorn]

Just in: Where is Misty Croslin? Haleigh’s stepmom skips town for vacation – scheduled to return over the weekend, but she’s still not home! Now Misty Croslin is nowhere to be found! Tune in tonight for latest, breaking developments in the case!

http://www.facebook.com/NancyGraceHLN

[lorettalockhorn]

Does anyone know who is presently living in the Cumming's former trailer?

Found her on my google desktop: Jeannie Glover, but can't get the link to open. :shrug:

[Etherealgirl]

Found her on my google desktop: Jeannie Glover, but can't get the link to open. :shrug:

I found this:

http://www.zimbio.com/Haleigh+Cummings/articles/79/Woman+lived+Haleighs+former+Home

Hopefully it will open here.

[beemer]

Thanks ladies :beer:

[lorettalockhorn]

I found this:

http://www.zimbio.com/Haleigh+Cummings/articles/79/Woman+lived+Haleighs+former+Home

Hopefully it will open here.

Thanks, EG! Love the google desktop, so much easier to search your own computer than the whole internet when you know you've read something in particluar, but it's been cranky lately. Prolly just need to uninstall and reinstall it. :shrug!

[Etherealgirl]

"The woman who dropped off the letter came forward, but investigators said she told them she was the messenger for a man who claimed to be an FBI informant with special psychic abilities. Detectives were told the woman does not personally know the family or have any information about Haleigh's whereabouts. They would like to talk to the man who wrote the letter."

Source (http://www.news4jax.com/news/21137323/detail.html)

The man is 80 years old and retired.

I'm guessing the woman is his 'nurse', or 'sitter'. In some areas you don't even need any nursing credentials to be a sitter for a patient. And most of them refer to themselves as nurses and some even wear uniforms. And she could be a real nurse, who knows. I'm hoping they will soon reveal her identity,

I've been reading some posts about the possible identity of the scrubs lady and some people are thinking she could be "Windchime" aka Windy, Breezyseas45, Terry Stipp, Terry Cavitalo, Terri Anna Marie Sholes Stipp, etc.

Apparently a lot of people believe it could be her because it's all over the Net. It sure does look like her. Below is a link with her photo and some good info.

The fact that part of one of her aliases (or maybe even her real name) is "Anna Marie" is a bizarre thing..because Haleigh's middle name is Ann-Marie. I am not insinuating she had anything to do with her disappearance, just that the name thing could be a trigger for her to insert herself into the investigation, I do not believe she was involved in any way with whatever happened to Haleigh.

Windy has already inserted herself in many other searches, events, etc. for missing children. Jessica Lundsford was one of them. And since it's a known fact that pedophiles never stop doing what they do, who knows what Windy could be up to.

I was a member there (WS) when all of that happened. She 'left' because of the stink and many members thought she returned as someone else.

I asked to have my name removed from the membership list because of that and a gazillion other things but it never happened. And I understand that some of the forums don't operate that way, so I quit.

I put that I was no longer a member on my signature, made a special text only avatar that said the same thing, deleted all my posts that were deletable, and left.

I don't know if my name is still there because I haven't gone back (and never will).

There were parents on that forum who actually put pictures of their kids up for display. And some even gave out their real names and locations.

http://cmm.lefora.com/2009/03/04/scandal-at-true-crime-forum-websleuths/page1/

[deacon]

Heck, everyone who's been following Haleigh's disappearance wants to talk to the man!

So, do his psychic abilities tell him that he's in a world of sh!t if he's jacking everyone around?

He has ESPN!!!!:rolleyes:

[Bullwinkle]

Just in: Where is Misty Croslin? Haleigh’s stepmom skips town for vacation – scheduled to return over the weekend, but she’s still not home! Now Misty Croslin is nowhere to be found! Tune in tonight for latest, breaking developments in the case!

http://www.facebook.com/NancyGraceHLN

"And be sure to buy my new book, with *EXCLUSIVE* pictures of me and the twins!"

[Etherealgirl]

"And be sure to buy my new book, with *EXCLUSIVE* pictures of me and the twins!"

Well yuck.

In a press conference a member of LE called her an irresponsible journalist because of how she handled the "nay nay letter".

[Etherealgirl]

Thanks, EG! Love the google desktop, so much easier to search your own computer than the whole internet when you know you've read something in particluar, but it's been cranky lately. Prolly just need to uninstall and reinstall it. :shrug!

I couldn't have found it if you hadn't provided the name!!

[SuzDuJour]

The scrubs lady also looks a lot like Gale St. John, the psychic who did a drive by of the site 3 months before Caylee was found (supposedly got nauseated and had to pull over and her dog whimpered). Check her out on google (I haven't figured out how to post a pic yet).

She is one of those who posts 'send money' on her website for travel expenses...uh huh.

[beemer]

I know several of us have discussed how NG puts her twins out there. It is quite shocking from a person who has witnessed the worst of the worst first hand. I am sure she has great security folk but it's just not right to put them out there in my opine. Given the nature of the folk she is supporting or bashing it sure seems risky to me. I am sure there is enough family to adore those twins.

[Bullwinkle]

Speaking of Nancy Grace, I guess by now all of you have seen this segment from The Daily Show with Jon Stewart from April 12, 2007 (http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/thu-april-12-2007/duke--non--rape-case).

[Bullwinkle]

"Just when it seemed that some progress is being made, the PCSO seemed bound and determined to tell the press that that is not the case." (http://www.bloggernews.net/122425)

[Bullwinkle]

According to this report (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_LLLa8YJP0), Misty's grandmother said that Misty and Ron are together.

[lorettalockhorn]

According to this report (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_LLLa8YJP0), Misty's grandmother said that Misty and Ron are together.

Ron's grandmother? http://www.spirit-of-metal.com/les%20goupes/M/Meanwhile/Lawless%20Solidarity/Lawless%20Solidarity.jpg

[lorettalockhorn]

Watched Miss Nancy tonight and she musta said that Misty is the last person to see Haleigh alive (as have countless others), but do we really know that? If Haleigh was truly kidnapped, wouldn't the kidnapper be the last to see her alive or otherwise?

Just not convinced that anyone saw Haleigh alive long before the hours 10pm - 3am.

Nancy wasn't even going to hear any Ron bashing tonight; she was in total agreement with Shoemaker that Ron is alibied. Sure, we know that he was at work, but we don't know about before work. And we have to wonder why Ron didn't come straight home. NG also wasn't hearing any of the negative comments about Ron not leaving work to check on Misty. That doesn't make sense to me for two reasons 1) he sent Tommy (supposedly) to check on his family and Tommy reported back that they weren't home, or 2) Tommy never reported back. How could he be comfortable with either of those possibilities? Why wouldn't he race home?

[beemer]

That has never sat well with me either. Who stops for beer and snacks if you are concerned about your children :shrug:

[lorettalockhorn]

That has never sat well with me either. Who stops for beer and snacks if you are concerned about your children :shrug:

A hardworking man earning an honest living?

And speaking of that, wasn't one of the reasons the judge gave RC custody so that he could provide insurance for the children through his work? So no job, no insurance. Another fallacy to throw in the face of the magistrate; Ron was also living with Mother Teresa to take advantage of a support system, yet he was actually living with Trysty who is seemingly directly responsible for Haleigh being in the wind.

Ponder that on election day Palatkans. :rolleyes:

[SuzDuJour]

If Grandma saw the corndogs at 7:30pm that evening, then Ron would already have been at work and Haleigh was seen alive. So I think that gives Ron a pretty tight alibi. However, I do believe he knows Misty was away from the house at that party. I wonder WHERE the party was and if Ron's stop at the Stop and Rob (heee, love that, Loretta) had anything to do with going by the party house before he went home?

[Etherealgirl]

Watched Miss Nancy tonight and she musta said that Misty is the last person to see Haleigh alive (as have countless others), but do we really know that? If Haleigh was truly kidnapped, wouldn't the kidnapper be the last to see her alive or otherwise?

Just not convinced that anyone saw Haleigh alive long before the hours 10pm - 3am.

Nancy wasn't even going to hear any Ron bashing tonight; she was in total agreement with Shoemaker that Ron is alibied. Sure, we know that he was at work, but we don't know about before work. And we have to wonder why Ron didn't come straight home. NG also wasn't hearing any of the negative comments about Ron not leaving work to check on Misty. That doesn't make sense to me for two reasons 1) he sent Tommy (supposedly) to check on his family and Tommy reported back that they weren't home, or 2) Tommy never reported back. How could he be comfortable with either of those possibilities? Why wouldn't he race home?

I saw that too. She should be ashamed of herself taking sides like that. It's very unprofessional.

I want a timeline. I'm going to start digging and find the exact time he went to work. In the beginning he led everyone to believe it was 5:00 pm, then we found out it was 8. Misty said they slept until noon, then had to get up, get Haleigh and Ron had to go to work. 8 hours is a long time to do just those 2 things.

I want to know what else Ron did that day, including the exact time he left for work and what time he actually got there.

I also want to find out who was the last person to see Haleigh (and the time they saw her) besides RC, MC, and TN.

Something could have easily happened to Haleigh 15 minutes before RC left for work. People can freak out and kill a child in much less than that amount of time, and leave someone behind to clean up the mess.

[Etherealgirl]

A hardworking man earning an honest living?

And speaking of that, wasn't one of the reasons the judge gave RC custody so that he could provide insurance for the children through his work? So no job, no insurance. Another fallacy to throw in the face of the magistrate; Ron was also living with Mother Teresa to take advantage of a support system, yet he was actually living with Trysty who is seemingly directly responsible for Haleigh being in the wind.

Ponder that on election day Palatkans. :rolleyes:

Ron was the lesser of two evils, that's the only reason he got custody. Someone needs to take Jr. and place him with decent parents far away from anyone remotely related to him.

[lorettalockhorn]

If Grandma saw the corndogs at 7:30pm that evening, then Ron would already have been at work and Haleigh was seen alive. So I think that gives Ron a pretty tight alibi. However, I do believe he knows Misty was away from the house at that party. I wonder WHERE the party was and if Ron's stop at the Stop and Rob (heee, love that, Loretta) had anything to do with going by the party house before he went home?

Hey Suz! As much as I want to believe that GGMS or anyone in Haleigh's life is capable of telling the truth, I just don't believe Mrs. Sykes. And of course, LE isn't going to help us with this. Truly think it's possible that Ron didn't pass a polygraph and that he is still a suspect.

Listening to the tape tonight on Nancy Schmancy, we're reminded for the umpteenth time that he told the 911 operator that if he finds out who stole Haleigh before LE gets there, he will kill them. So what kind of detective work did he do to get to the bottom of that? Run through the neighborhood screaming Haleigh's name? Making phone calls to form a posse?

[lorettalockhorn]

I saw that too. She should be ashamed of herself taking sides like that. It's very unprofessional.

I want a timeline. I'm going to start digging and find the exact time he went to work. In the beginning he led everyone to believe it was 5:00 pm, then we found out it was 8. Misty said they slept until noon, then had to get up, get Haleigh and Ron had to go to work. 8 hours is a long time to do just those 2 things.

I want to know what else Ron did that day, including the exact time he left for work and what time he actually got there.

I also want to find out who was the last person to see Haleigh (and the time they saw her) besides RC, MC, and TN.

Something could have easily happened to Haleigh 15 minutes before RC left for work. People can freak out and kill a child in much less than that amount of time, and leave someone behind to clean up the mess.

ITA. And the longer that Haleigh is missing and/or decomposing, the harder it will be to prove that. Really think it's possible that Ron left Haleigh unconscious for Misty to deal with when she woke up. Except she didn't.

Ron was the lesser of two evils, that's the only reason he got custody. Someone needs to take Jr. and place him with decent parents far away from anyone remotely related to him.

I'm on that bandwagon.

[SuzDuJour]

I think I'm forced to agree with you, Loretta - nobody in the entire group seems capable of telling the truth.

Do we know who Chad is (Chad's house = place of party)?

[Etherealgirl]

"Just when it seemed that some progress is being made, the PCSO seemed bound and determined to tell the press that that is not the case." (http://www.bloggernews.net/122425)

NG is well known for backing the wrong horse. She gets all caught up in the morality of the case and gets tunnel vision. She is all down on Crystal because she's an unwed mother and didn't know what time Haleigh got out of school. She compares Crystal's lack of mothering skills to her own super-mommy skills and Crystal doesn't measure up.

Ron's a man, strike that, Ron's a guy..so she can't relate to him on the same level as she can another mother, so he's the chosen one in the case. She adores her own mommy, who of course is the world's bestest grandmommy (since N is the bestest mommy) therefore she has high regard for Grandmothers in general. Look at how she stood behind CA in the Caylee case. That is until it started making her look downright dumb to do so.

I've read a lot about her history and I believe her own mom follows the shows and gives her grief over how she handles certain issues.

But that's just my lil ole opinion.

[Etherealgirl]

[QUOTE=lorettalockhorn;9223801]ITA. And the longer that Haleigh is missing and/or decomposing, the harder it will be to prove that. Really think it's possible that Ron left Haleigh unconscious for Misty to deal with when she woke up. Except she didn't.

Absolutely!

[Nawny]

hehehe My evil grandmother's blue chair was not nearly so beautiful.

Poor loretta http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-sad056.gif (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php)

[Nawny]

Watched Miss Nancy tonight and she musta said that Misty is the last person to see Haleigh alive (as have countless others), but do we really know that? If Haleigh was truly kidnapped, wouldn't the kidnapper be the last to see her alive or otherwise?

Just not convinced that anyone saw Haleigh alive long before the hours 10pm - 3am.

Nancy wasn't even going to hear any Ron bashing tonight; she was in total agreement with Shoemaker that Ron is alibied. Sure, we know that he was at work, but we don't know about before work. And we have to wonder why Ron didn't come straight home. NG also wasn't hearing any of the negative comments about Ron not leaving work to check on Misty. That doesn't make sense to me for two reasons 1) he sent Tommy (supposedly) to check on his family and Tommy reported back that they weren't home, or 2) Tommy never reported back. How could he be comfortable with either of those possibilities? Why wouldn't he race home?

That theory of mine is still buggin me. He knew where she was? He sent her to that house where the so called party was to get him his stash? (he's an addict) And he knew she had the kids with her. She was late, that's the reason he kept calling.

[Bullwinkle]

With this being another slow news day, I don't suppose anyone knows if Kristina ("Nay Nay") Prevatt is related to Joe Prevatt in Starke, Florida, who made the news today in this story (http://www.news4jax.com/news/21140774/detail.html).

[Nawny]

Tonight Ron's lawyer was on NG and said the two bubble heads are communicating daily. He's got himself a piece of work aye? I don't believe that LE is going to let her enjoy Disney too much longer.

[beemer]

Love that Trysty ;) Yep the system really dropped the ball with these children. Seems the system really isn't working for alot of these folk :shrug: Seems to me Ron should have had to prove to the courts over time he could parent and keep his job. Maybe then Haleigh would still be with us. I guess we all wish we could turn back the hands of time. Nite all :seeya:

[Etherealgirl]

Tonight Ron's lawyer was on NG and said the two bubble heads are communicating daily. He's got himself a piece of work aye? I don't believe that LE is going to let her enjoy Disney too much longer.

Yep and AH says they aren't on speaking terms. lol. The news and at least 1 grandmother says they are (and have been) together.

RC's attorney also said the company Ron worked for (PDM) has the fingerprint-time ID system (but they didn't get it until after he was terminated).

Is there any wonder this case isn't solved yet?

[Nawny]

Yep and AH says they aren't on speaking terms. lol. The news and at least 1 grandmother says they are (and have been) together.

RC's attorney also said the company Ron worked for (PDM) has the fingerprint-time ID system (but they didn't get it until after he was terminated).

Is there any wonder this case isn't solved yet?

They're all fulla chit EG. Don't even need intuition with these creeps. I have to go read the [Anything you want to discuss] Caylee board to decompress from this one. Lots of laughs today there. But I see the Misty myth in jail soon. This investigation is going to be the laughing stock of the country if they don't get that little airhead to the wall. She's not even a good liar. She's obviously not fooling anyone, I declare she isn't fooling LE either. I hope.

[Marian Paroo]

But I see the Misty myth in jail soon. This investigation is going to be the laughing stock of the country if they don't get that little airhead to the wall. She's not even a good liar. She's obviously not fooling anyone, I declare she isn't fooling LE either. I hope.

Well, I do hope you are right about her being in jail soon. But I don't know. It's being to look like Aruba. Police either incompetent or folding because of drug involvement in the case. :(

[Bullwinkle]

A blond woman wearing blue scrubs and sunglasses dropped the anonymous letter off at The Record building on Sept. 23.

Below the typewritten directions is a rectangular box representing the Satsuma trailer HaLeigh Cummings was living in on Feb. 9, the night she disappeared. Broken lines lead off to the side of the drawn trailer. More broken lines lead upward, then stop at a circle.

"Check the back of father's mobile home," the letter read. "From the right end of the mobile home extending out continue for 540 yards straight. At that point go north 12 yards. Dig 2 - 3 feet, will strike metal covering an old well, check inside, black plastic garbage bag.

"Circumstances extend statewide and beyond."

The typed initials at the bottom are "SAM."

"SAM" was the informant's code name, the woman wrote in an e-mail to the paper on Saturday.

Full article (http://www.staugustine.com/stories/092909/news_2026349.shtml)

[Amy]

Cadaver dog search in Haleigh Cummings case does not find her

Specific tip prompts searchers to go over ground already covered

Investigators using cadaver-sensing dogs to check a tip describing the burial site for Putnam County’s missing Haleigh Cummings did not find her there.

The site near the Satsuma doublewide mobile home where the kindergartner disappeared in February had been checked before, said Capt. Dick Schauland of the Putnam County Sheriff’s Office. He said the search was retraced last week because the tip provided directions, distances and angles to turn.

“This tip was kind of specific,” he said.

Schauland said a woman who dropped the tip off at the St. Augustine Record Wednesday later told detectives she was passing it on from a retired FBI informant who is in his early 80s. He said she did not name the man.

“Hopefully she will get him to talk to us,” Schauland said. The woman’s name has not been released.

Investigators want to know where the man got his information.

Detectives have investigated more than 4,000 leads in the case.

Cadaver dogs had already checked the spot that was investigated again last week.

Haleigh was 5 years old when she disappeared from the residence where she and her younger brother lived with her father, Ronald Cummings, and his 17-year-old girlfriend, Misty Croslin, who has since married Cummings.

She called 911 early Feb. 10 to say she woke and found Haleigh missing.

Speculation about possible places where Haleigh may be found intensified this month with the draining of an isolated pond south of Palatka. No evidence was found in several days of searching the L-shaped pond in the Mondex area, investigators said.

Since the pond search, two jailhouse letters surfaced written by a friend of Misty Cummings saying police questioned her about another acquaintance describing a party where Haleigh ingested drugs and died and was taken to a pond.

Schauland said the search of the pond was not the result of the letters by Kristina “Naynay” Prevatt, who denied being at any such party.

Schauland said interviews with Prevatt were prompted by leads they were already following.

http://jacksonville.com/community/my_st_johns_sun/2009-09-28/story/cadaver_dog_search_in_haleigh_cummings_case_does_n ot_find

Bolding mine.

Investigators are not paying attention. The man claims to be a psychic. Where the heck do they THINK he got his "information?"

[Amy]

I saw that too. She should be ashamed of herself taking sides like that. It's very unprofessional.

I want a timeline. I'm going to start digging and find the exact time he went to work. In the beginning he led everyone to believe it was 5:00 pm, then we found out it was 8. Misty said they slept until noon, then had to get up, get Haleigh and Ron had to go to work. 8 hours is a long time to do just those 2 things.

I want to know what else Ron did that day, including the exact time he left for work and what time he actually got there.

I also want to find out who was the last person to see Haleigh (and the time they saw her) besides RC, MC, and TN.

Something could have easily happened to Haleigh 15 minutes before RC left for work. People can freak out and kill a child in much less than that amount of time, and leave someone behind to clean up the mess.

Add another clink to your timeline, because he also supposedly went to work right after picking Haleigh up from school--3:30 or 4:30, depending on where and when you read it. Or, remember, Misti supposedly picked her up and then so did TN supposedly pick her up, presumably because Ron was either @ work or on his way.

[Nawny]

Well, I do hope you are right about her being in jail soon. But I don't know. It's being to look like Aruba. Police either incompetent or folding because of drug involvement in the case. :(

Yes it does remind me of Aruba. But this is America and LE can get very creative. I'm putting my money on the pressure from the public to put Misty away. She's the dolt who knows what happened. There are drugs involved in almost everything. But there are still careers at stake in this case and I doubt LE is going to let a little wet behind the ears 17 year old make fools of them. The good old boys are not the only ones involved: I would think.

[lorettalockhorn]

Full Contents of Haleigh Mystery Letter Revealed

ST. AUGUSTINE, FL -- The letter dropped off at the St. Augustine Record by a mystery woman provided investigators with step by step instructions to find the grave of Haleigh Cummings.

The St. Augustine Record, our news partner, has now published the entire contents of the letter it received last week.

Investigators on Monday said the letter contained specific information about a site where Haleigh may be buried.

The St. Augustine Record reports in today's edition just how specific:

"Check the back of father's mobile home. From the right end of the mobile home extending out continue for 540 yards straight. At that point go north 12 yards. Dig 2-3 feet, will strike metal covering an old well, check inside, black plastic garbage bag. Circumstances extend statewide and beyond."

The typewritten letter, according to the St. Augustine Record, is signed by the initials "SAM."

Investigators told First Coast News they searched the area but nothing came up. The Putnam County Sheriff's Office also said the area had been searched before.

A woman dressed in what appeared to be blue hospital scrubs handed the letter to the receptionist at the St. Augustine Record on Sept. 23.

The Putnam County Sheriff's Office said Monday the woman told investigators she worked as a messenger for an older man who had once been an FBI informant. The unidentified woman also told investigators the man had some "special abilities." Capt. Dick Schauland, a spokesman for the sheriff's office, wouldn't elaborate on whether those abilities meant "psychic abilities."

"We have not talked to him," said Schauland. "We've asked her to bring him in. I don't know if she'll be able to or not."

Haleigh Cummings has been missing since the night of Feb. 9. Misty Croslin-Cummings told detectives she put Haleigh to bed around 8 p.m. The teen wife of Haleigh's father said she woke up around 3 a.m. and noticed Haleigh had disappeared.

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/topstories/news-article.aspx?storyid=145802&catid=3

[lorettalockhorn]

>>"We have not talked to him," said Schauland. "We've asked her to bring him in. I don't know if she'll be able to or not."

WTF Is being official spokespatsy interfering with Schauland's retirement?

[BeastofBears]

Bolding mine.

Investigators are not paying attention. The man claims to be a psychic. Where the heck do they THINK he got his "information?"

Yeah, but how'd he know about the well? Turns out there was one there. I guess he would claim a vision. But I don't buy that stuff, imo.

[BeastofBears]

Yes it does remind me of Aruba. But this is America and LE can get very creative. I'm putting my money on the pressure from the public to put Misty away. She's the dolt who knows what happened. There are drugs involved in almost everything. But there are still careers at stake in this case and I doubt LE is going to let a little wet behind the ears 17 year old make fools of them. The good old boys are not the only ones involved: I would think.

Yeah, but you gotta wonder about the talent pool among LE down there. Okay, maybe they are pulling a Columbo...but maybe not :eek:

[Nawny]

Yeah, but you gotta wonder about the talent pool among LE down there. Okay, maybe they are pulling a Columbo...but maybe not :eek:


It's hard to say BoB, seeing that they're not sharing a whole lot. I would think the FBI is involved and LE in any area doesn't like the spotlight on their stupidity. I mean I get that they're lax in that town and not Harvard material, but this case has to involve more than Satsuma LE, no? Massachusetts did grill stupidhead's brother and his wife for many hours. I'm thinking once they get her in their chamber they're going to break her. She's not wrapped real tight. :shrug:

I'm losing patience with this nutcase of a teenager. I want to choke her.

[Nawny]

Yeah, but how'd he know about the well? Turns out there was one there. I guess he would claim a vision. But I don't buy that stuff, imo.

The 80 yearold retired FBI guy is psychic? Nah.

[Nawny]

Full Contents of Haleigh Mystery Letter Revealed

ST. AUGUSTINE, FL -- The letter dropped off at the St. Augustine Record by a mystery woman provided investigators with step by step instructions to find the grave of Haleigh Cummings.

The St. Augustine Record, our news partner, has now published the entire contents of the letter it received last week.

Investigators on Monday said the letter contained specific information about a site where Haleigh may be buried.

The St. Augustine Record reports in today's edition just how specific:

"Check the back of father's mobile home. From the right end of the mobile home extending out continue for 540 yards straight. At that point go north 12 yards. Dig 2-3 feet, will strike metal covering an old well, check inside, black plastic garbage bag. Circumstances extend statewide and beyond."

The typewritten letter, according to the St. Augustine Record, is signed by the initials "SAM."

Investigators told First Coast News they searched the area but nothing came up. The Putnam County Sheriff's Office also said the area had been searched before.

A woman dressed in what appeared to be blue hospital scrubs handed the letter to the receptionist at the St. Augustine Record on Sept. 23.

The Putnam County Sheriff's Office said Monday the woman told investigators she worked as a messenger for an older man who had once been an FBI informant. The unidentified woman also told investigators the man had some "special abilities." Capt. Dick Schauland, a spokesman for the sheriff's office, wouldn't elaborate on whether those abilities meant "psychic abilities."

"We have not talked to him," said Schauland. "We've asked her to bring him in. I don't know if she'll be able to or not."

Haleigh Cummings has been missing since the night of Feb. 9. Misty Croslin-Cummings told detectives she put Haleigh to bed around 8 p.m. The teen wife of Haleigh's father said she woke up around 3 a.m. and noticed Haleigh had disappeared.

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/topstories/news-article.aspx?storyid=145802&catid=3

Oh, sorry I didn't catch that he was once an FBI "informant" I thought he was FBI.


Thanks loretta.

[lorettalockhorn]

The 80 yearold retired FBI guy is psychic? Nah.

Doesn't it look like the FBI could nail down this psychic retired former narc or janitor or whatever he was and go out and talk to him rather than waiting for the tipster to bring him in?

I've probably got more faith in psychic abilities than most, but if this guy was involved in the past with the FBI, he surely realizes that using a messenger to deliver his tip to the media where there was likely to be surveillance instead of making an anonymous call to LE or Crimestoppers makes him look hinky. (Even moreso than claiming to be psychic!) Why the mystery?

[lorettalockhorn]

Oh, sorry I didn't catch that he was once an FBI "informant" I thought he was FBI.


Thanks loretta.

Was he a drug informant? Is he back on the stuff?

Sometimes it looks like Haleigh's case wants to be a fouled up as the Caylee case.

[Nawny]

Doesn't it look like the FBI could nail down this psychic retired former narc or janitor or whatever he was and go out and talk to him rather than waiting for the tipster to bring him in?

I've probably got more faith in psychic abilities than most, but if this guy was involved in the past with the FBI, he surely realizes that using a messenger to deliver his tip to the media where there was likely to be surveillance instead of making an anonymous call to LE or Crimestoppers makes him look hinky. (Even moreso than claiming to be psychic!) Why the mystery?

Another 15 minutes hog? The scrubs wearing prima news lady may be a kook looking for a bunch of money. There are those rodents who love to get involed with high profile cases just for kicks and giggles though. She is a red herring. IMO.

[deacon]

bolding mine.

Investigators are not paying attention. The man claims to be a psychic. Where the heck do they think he got his "information?"

espn

[Nawny]

That has never sat well with me either. Who stops for beer and snacks if you are concerned about your children :shrug:

Ron doesn't look much like a heavy Beer guy. More like a speed addict. He went to work the night shift after little or know sleep in 3 days? How does that work? Also I noticed that he didn't come home after all those calls that no one answered. Did he forget that he had 2 children in that dung heap of a trailer? I would have been home before the second call and had her hair in my hands after the 3rd call. She is an irresposnsible little freak and should have been no where near children.

:cuss::mad::flamemad:

[deacon]

Yeah, but you gotta wonder about the talent pool among LE down there. Okay, maybe they are pulling a Columbo...but maybe not :eek:

A Columbubba would be more like it.

[deacon]

Ron doesn't look much like a heavy Beer guy. More like a speed addict. He went to work the night shift after little or know sleep in 3 days? How does that work? Also I noticed that he didn't come home after all those calls that no one answered. Did he forget that he had 2 children in that dung heap of a trailer? I would have been home before the second call and had her hair in my hands after the 3rd call. She is an irresposnsible little freak and should have been no where near children.

:cuss::mad::flamemad:

Crystal Meth will do that for you. It can keep you up for as long as a week

[lorettalockhorn]

[/B]

Another 15 minutes hog? The scrubs wearing prima news lady may be a kook looking for a bunch of money. There are those rodents who love to get involed with high profile cases just for kicks and giggles though. She is a red herring. IMO.

I'm wondering about TJ Hart's ominous sounding blurb about the identity of the scrubs tipster; it seems to be whetting the appetite that she may be Windchime AKA Windslime, Windbag, etc. She sure labored to insert herself into the Anthony case and showed up at a Jessica Lunsford event once upon a time. I guess part of the thrill of being a pedophile is being in situations that involve children on whatever level.

[deacon]

I'm wondering about TJ Hart's ominous sounding blurb about the identity of the scrubs tipster; it seems to be whetting the appetite that she may be Windchime AKA Windslime, Windbag, etc. She sure labored to insert herself into the Anthony case and showed up at a Jessica Lunsford event once upon a time. I guess part of the thrill of being a pedophile is being in situations that involve children on whatever level.

Give me a clue. Don't know who this person is.

[shadydaisy]

[/B]


It's hard to say BoB, seeing that they're not sharing a whole lot. I would think the FBI is involved and LE in any area doesn't like the spotlight on their stupidity. I mean I get that they're lax in that town and not Harvard material, but this case has to involve more than Satsuma LE, no? Massachusetts did grill stupidhead's brother and his wife for many hours. I'm thinking once they get her in their chamber they're going to break her. She's not wrapped real tight. :shrug:

I'm losing patience with this nutcase of a teenager. I want to choke her.

Bolding mine - Go to the end of the line and wait your turn. I lost patience long ago.

[lorettalockhorn]

Give me a clue. Don't know who this person is.

Terry Anna Marie Cavitalo. There is plenty of suspicion (at least on the internet) that she is the scrubs tipster. From P150:

Found this:

http://74.125.47.132/search?q=cache:xHHjvS8WSIEJ:www.docstoc.com/docs/4494306/Cavitalo-James+%22James+Cavitalo%22&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us

And these:

http://lakecountyclerk.org/online_court_records_detail.asp?case_id=35766722

http://lakecountyclerk.org/online_court_records_detail.asp?case_id=77661535

[Mojo]

Doesn't it look like the FBI could nail down this psychic retired former narc or janitor or whatever he was and go out and talk to him rather than waiting for the tipster to bring him in?

I've probably got more faith in psychic abilities than most, but if this guy was involved in the past with the FBI, he surely realizes that using a messenger to deliver his tip to the media where there was likely to be surveillance instead of making an anonymous call to LE or Crimestoppers makes him look hinky. (Even moreso than claiming to be psychic!) Why the mystery?

He doesn't trust LE? He might think they are totally screwing the case so he needs to make sure the media also has the information in case LE doesn't follow up on it.

[lorettalockhorn]

He doesn't trust LE? He might think they are totally screwing the case so he needs to make sure the media also has the information in case LE doesn't follow up on it.

Your guess is as good as mine! Reckon he either doesn't have faith in his own abilities or is independently wealthy enough to pooh pooh the reward $$.

[deacon]

Terry Anna Marie Cavitalo. There is plenty of suspicion (at least on the internet) that she is the scrubs tipster. From P150:

Okayyyyyy that would be a trust worthy source. NOT.

[Nawny]

I'm wondering about TJ Hart's ominous sounding blurb about the identity of the scrubs tipster; it seems to be whetting the appetite that she may be Windchime AKA Windslime, Windbag, etc. She sure labored to insert herself into the Anthony case and showed up at a Jessica Lunsford event once upon a time. I guess part of the thrill of being a pedophile is being in situations that involve children on whatever level.

If this is windchime this case just got more aggravating. We can't think like her, so it would seem impossible to know her motive, besides that possibility that she's looking to be textbook material somewhere along her life line. For better or worse. If she's that's nuts, I'd keep her away from children forever. If it is her. :flamemad: She sure is challenging LE in that district and they may not be able to walk and shew gum as it is. I still don't think these dingbats are able to commit the perfect crime. I hope there's a GPS in Misty and Ron's shoes.

[Etherealgirl]

I found some interesting info last night about the time clock at RC's former job. It's hearsay so I didn't post it, but now it seems to be all over the place. Since we aren't getting anything but the run-around (and because I'm sick and tired of hearing lies from a certain attorney) I thought I would post it.

I'd love to ask Mz. Nancy why she would take a defense attorney's word as absolute truth. Especially since she was a prosecutor and loathes defense attorneys (or at least she pretends to for ratings' sake).

LLM Papa has email from PDM employee on Time clocks:

"The clock in system that they have for employees NOW is a whole lot different than what they had back in February!!!! Now they have a laser time card where you have to insert the last four digits of your S.S. # and then SCAN your entire hand. Quite sophisticated stuff NOW. However....back in February, they had a time card that was done on the computer and it DID NOT ALWAYS WORK. It was common for workers to have to go back and 'clock' in when the computer was back up and running or to have co-workers do it for them, if they were busy. I asked if it was possible back then for workers to slip in or out and he quickly said, "oh yeah, no problem, guys did it all the time. There is parking that isn't within the gated/guard area, down by heavy fabrication, but not many people use that area to park in."

http://haleigh.afterhoursfriends.com/index.php?topic=23.msg7515#msg7515

[SuzDuJour]

Speaking of pedophiles...I noticed Woody Allen is calling for Roman Polanski to be freed. Talk about two peas in a pod. Geeeeesh.

Please keep me posted on Nancy Grace's show, I don't get to watch it until the 1:00am time slot!

[lorettalockhorn]

I found some interesting info last night about the time clock at RC's former job. It's hearsay so I didn't post it, but now it seems to be all over the place. Since we aren't getting anything but the run-around (and because I'm sick and tired of hearing lies from a certain attorney) I thought I would post it.

I'd love to ask Mz. Nancy why she would take a defense attorney's word as absolute truth. Especially since she was a prosecutor and loathes defense attorneys (or at least she pretends to for ratings' sake).

LLM Papa has email from PDM employee on Time clocks:

"The clock in system that they have for employees NOW is a whole lot different than what they had back in February!!!! Now they have a laser time card where you have to insert the last four digits of your S.S. # and then SCAN your entire hand. Quite sophisticated stuff NOW. However....back in February, they had a time card that was done on the computer and it DID NOT ALWAYS WORK. It was common for workers to have to go back and 'clock' in when the computer was back up and running or to have co-workers do it for them, if they were busy. I asked if it was possible back then for workers to slip in or out and he quickly said, "oh yeah, no problem, guys did it all the time. There is parking that isn't within the gated/guard area, down by heavy fabrication, but not many people use that area to park in."

http://haleigh.afterhoursfriends.com/index.php?topic=23.msg7515#msg7515

Wow, thanks! Didn't Shoemaker tell NG that fingerprints are used to clock in, but didn't specify when that was instituted? You're right, it is more sophisticated now. As for workers slipping in and out of work "all the time", didn't we read somewhere that Misty wanted to know if Ron had been home at some time earlier than when he arrived circa 3-3:30am? Once again, we wonder if that's something he did from time to time.

[lorettalockhorn]

Speaking of pedophiles...I noticed Woody Allen is calling for Roman Polanski to be freed. Talk about two peas in a pod. Geeeeesh.

Please keep me posted on Nancy Grace's show, I don't get to watch it until the 1:00am time slot!


For the love of God.

[deacon]

For the love of God.

They should not put him in jail. Out of the airplane, behind the nearest building. bullet to the head.

[lorettalockhorn]

They should not put him in jail. Out of the airplane, behind the nearest building. bullet to the head.

Not sure what the sentence will be once they tack on the penalty for running away all those years ago, but I want him to go to jail and long enough to die there.

[deacon]

Not sure what the sentence will be once they tack on the penalty for running away all those years ago, but I want him to go to jail and long enough to die there.

Same result, different time line.:D

[lorettalockhorn]

Found this while reading Gunny the Sleuthing Dog's report about the scrubs tipster:

Don't miss: Misty Croslin, the last person to reportedly see Haleigh Cummings alive is hiding something -- according to the Sheriff's Department. What is she keeping to herself? Police have said her story is "sketchy," & everything she has said is a "complete farce." What does the babysitter know? Exclusive interviews with key players, including Haleigh's dad & the woman in question, his new wife, Misty Croslin! Watch Nancy Grace's special coverage, Thursday, October 1 at 8 & 10 p.m. ET!

http://www.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/nancy.grace/

In case you're interested in Gunny's farcical take on the psychic letter writer:

http://ow.ly/rGeV

[lorettalockhorn]

Same result, different time line.:D

hehehe You convinced me!

[wind149]

I just read the parts of the letter on FCN and it is compelling, but obviously not the truth, but if you read it, it does sound like it could have some validity especially when it states go 455 yards away from the home and she will be found in a black trash bag?? I have maintained all along that poor Haleigh would probably be found in a garbage sack, Caylee was and that POS Couey buried Jessie in one and those scumbag racists the Edenfreaks tossed Christopher Barrios in one, must be the southlands answer to a grave??? As for the woman now it comes out that she is a caretaker for an elderly man and maybe he decided to arm chair this and told her to write this letter to PASCO as if he was leaving a tip on their hotline? Or is some slob trying to get their 15 minutes of shame??? I am thinking if all the low lifes of Satsuma had an inkling where Haleigh's body really is, they would have turned Misty in months ago for a piece of that reward money if nothing else and since none have, I actually am amazed???

Now Nay wrote that letter hoping to get a get out of jail free card, just like Misty's brother and as far as I know, honey and Ron are NOT back together and no one seems to know where she booked after the press recognized her at Disney and I am thinking maybe, Ron is finally waking up and it is dawning on him that she indeed did away with his daughter??? Now the father part in him, if he has one truly, should have done this months ago, but I understand a part of him must love this skank even now and he just has refused to see what everyone does, that this loser was the last to see his child ALIVE and now in all probability she is no longer is and that Misty is responsible for her possible death as I am sure this child is dead and probably died that night. I hope for his sake that he is waking up and seeing Misty as not the little hottie that he thought she was, but a brain dead loser who really did not dig his kids, especially Haleigh. Now taking care of two young kids day after day when one has a penchant for partying and she is very young, would get on my nerves, but I was smart enough to hook up with guys that did not have young children because I was not about to play Mama for anyone, and I figured if I did not want any personally, why would I want to step in and become some kid's "mother"???

I think for Misty, Ron looked good, she apparently has had a hard life, you only have to look at the sea hag she has for a mama to know that this broad should have never procreated either and she saw Ron as a means to get out of their shack and she did not gamble on the kids being part of the picture all the time I guess and Ron assumed that she would be filling the mama shoes without realizing that maybe she could not handle it??? And because she clearly wanted him, she thought she could handle it and let's face it, kids at that age are gonna act up, they are not going to want to listen to a word you say and are gonna give you 20 reasons why their bed time should not be 8 pm??? And day after day of the same kids demanding her time and this skank likes to party and I am betting when she went off on that toot, that she was fed up with the kids then and maybe she should have told Ron she could not handle the kids??

But she has the mentality level of a stalk of celery, clearly she was doomed from birth and was thinking only of herself because she did not have good parenting and how she digs Ron and I am thinking that she wanted to lose Haleigh first because of her health issues and kids with Turner's can act right up pretty good, that she got on honey's nerves moreso than Jr and I am thinking was she planning on losing him too if people bought her crap stories as stone cold evidence that Haleigh was abducted by a stranger??? Like they were targeted by someone, perhaps a SO??? And that Jr would also disappear under the same circumstances??? I wonder how Jr realy feels about her?? We have never heard his take on her, only that honey claims that he called her Mommy? I seriously doubt Jr felt this way, he has a mama. OH NG on let's see her take on the CA thing tonight.

[SuzDuJour]

I'm still curious where the party was. Who is Chad? Did they walk there? Did Tommy give them a ride? and so on...

[beemer]

I cant for the life of me ( in this day and age of reporting) understand why nobody seems to know exactly where Misty is? So many conflicting reports. I can say for sure one place i know Misty isn't and that would be in school :shrug:

[lorettalockhorn]

I'm still curious where the party was. Who is Chad? Did they walk there? Did Tommy give them a ride? and so on...

The only Chads that I've read about in this case are Chad Griffis, Crystal's fiance, and Chad Reynolds the RSO who went poof a week of so before Haleigh disappeared. Not likely that Chad would party with Misty, and he lives in another county, and IIRC Chad R lived with his mother also some distance from Satsuma. I've seen people asking on other boards who Chad is, but haven't seen any answer yet. (I'll keep snooping.)

Read somewhere else that GGMS had stated that Ron and Jr are back at her house, but no word of Misty being home or not. According to the CNN/NG site, she'll be on with Miss Nancy with Ron Thursday night.

Wind, I've heard/read Crystal say that her kids love Misty. Don't think she would admit that if they hadn't told her that. :shrug:

[lorettalockhorn]

I cant for the life of me ( in this day and age of reporting) understand why nobody seems to know exactly where Misty is? So many conflicting reports. I can say for sure one place i know Misty isn't and that would be in school :shrug:

Yeah, it's not like Ron's at work and needs a babysitter. :rolleyes: Let's see, what grade would she be in this year? 6th?

[SuzDuJour]

Yeah, it's not like Ron's at work and needs a babysitter. :rolleyes: Let's see, what grade would she be in this year? 6th?

heee.

I noticed NayNay's letter was addressed "Dear Mama"...Nice to know your own mom is selling out to the media. Or maybe trying to cash in on the reward?

[ErrinSpelling]

Found this while reading Gunny the Sleuthing Dog's report about the scrubs tipster:

Don't miss: Misty Croslin, the last person to reportedly see Haleigh Cummings alive is hiding something -- according to the Sheriff's Department. What is she keeping to herself? Police have said her story is "sketchy," & everything she has said is a "complete farce." What does the babysitter know? Exclusive interviews with key players, including Haleigh's dad & the woman in question, his new wife, Misty Croslin! Watch Nancy Grace's special coverage, Thursday, October 1 at 8 & 10 p.m. ET!

http://www.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/nancy.grace/

In case you're interested in Gunny's farcical take on the psychic letter writer:

http://ow.ly/rGeV
i'm going to use the only psychic ability i have:it only works on NG & translate that exclusive interview..........that means there will be the 3 square monty python floating around, with interviews of misty 6+ months ago & maybe the pictures ,where she is taking her untruthful tests, but there will be no live misty just memorex,unless of course she is arrested.imo

[ErrinSpelling]

I cant for the life of me ( in this day and age of reporting) understand why nobody seems to know exactly where Misty is? So many conflicting reports. I can say for sure one place i know Misty isn't and that would be in school :shrug:

i have been just so angry she isn't being arrested & then yesterday i was thinking about how hard it is to win a case w/o a body.it happens, but has there ever been a case with someone who is not an adult... i don't know.

misty has nowhere to go, if ron threw her out,her mother is in jail, but really her parents moved away,her other brother moved & the only family there is not allowed to come near her.....looks like jail is the only place to go.

[lorettalockhorn]

heee.

I noticed NayNay's letter was addressed "Dear Mama"...Nice to know your own mom is selling out to the media. Or maybe trying to cash in on the reward?

Well heck. If NayNay ever gets out of jail, she's gonna need a new ride. (I think that's what she wrote; someone needs to make a transcript of those letters, maybe I saw one somewhere last night.) I'd be curious to know how much of that scenario in the letters is what NayNay knows and what LE told her to get her talking or shaking in her boots.

[lorettalockhorn]

i'm going to use the only psychic ability i have:it only works on NG & translate that exclusive interview..........that means there will be the 3 square monty python floating around, with interviews of misty 6+ months ago & maybe the pictures ,where she is taking her untruthful tests, but there will be no live misty just memorex,unless of course she is arrested.imo

That's always a possibility of that on The Miss Nancy Show. It'll be great if she's live; Nancy will be all kissing up to Ron and sneering at Misty.

[ErrinSpelling]

That's always a possibility of that on The Miss Nancy Show. It'll be great if she's live; Nancy will be all kissing up to Ron and sneering at Misty.

yes she would....i don't think misty has been on, since before she became mrs. ron... she knows miss nancy has her #.

[lorettalockhorn]

yes she would....i don't think misty has been on, since before she became mrs. ron... she knows miss nancy has her #.

Her numerical? :hat::tongue::seeya:

[ErrinSpelling]

Her numerical? :hat::tongue::seeya:

LOL :hat: hey!
they took my green teeth & waving smilies again.

[deacon]

yes she would....i don't think misty has been on, since before she became mrs. ron... she knows miss nancy has her #.

She may believe Mz Nancy is after her man.:eek:

[ErrinSpelling]

She may believe Mz Nancy is after her man.:eek:

:hat: LOL..oh yeah.i forgot ,i read that .

[Justice Denied?]

Just in: Where is Misty Croslin? Haleigh’s stepmom skips town for vacation – scheduled to return over the weekend, but she’s still not home! Now Misty Croslin is nowhere to be found! Tune in tonight for latest, breaking developments in the case!

http://www.facebook.com/NancyGraceHLN

This sounds very ominous to me. Seems like what Ron feared most prior to marrying Misti has happened. Misti has disappeared taking whatever info she had with her. Is there any possibility something bad happened to her?

[beemer]

Yeah, it's not like Ron's at work and needs a babysitter. :rolleyes: Let's see, what grade would she be in this year? 6th?

Well Loretta they may give her credit for life experience. Me bad :punch:

[beemer]

This sounds very ominous to me. Seems like what Ron feared most prior to marrying Misti has happened. Misti has disappeared taking whatever info she had with her. Is there any possibility something bad happened to her?

In this case I think anything is possible JD. I sure hope not as I think she holds the key in cracking this. She knows something.

[Nawny]

I have a feeling we should be looking a little closer at Crystal. I'm not saying she had something to do with Haleigh going missing, but I want her to be a little more hysterical about Haleigh going missing. Ya know?

She' too darn calm. :confused:

[lorettalockhorn]

Well Loretta they may give her credit for life experience. Me bad :punch:

Oops, my bad. :punch: That puts her in Grade sex.

[SaraSidle]

The scrubs lady also looks a lot like Gale St. John, the psychic who did a drive by of the site 3 months before Caylee was found (supposedly got nauseated and had to pull over and her dog whimpered). Check her out on google (I haven't figured out how to post a pic yet).

She is one of those who posts 'send money' on her website for travel expenses...uh huh.

I thought the same thing Suz when Loretta posted the 2 pictures side by side. that is so weird.........

[lorettalockhorn]

I have a feeling we should be looking a little closer at Crystal. I'm not saying she had something to do with Haleigh going missing, but I want her to be a little more hysterical about Haleigh going missing. Ya know?

She' too darn calm. :confused:

She's probably on meds, but I hear ya. She just flies under the radar maybe because we don't know that much about her and because of the sheer distance. Also, I can't imagine Ron&Misty (not to mention Mother Teresa) lying if Crystal is responsible. :shrug:<<He's always with me.

[Nawny]

Is Crystal seeing her little boy on weekends? Sorry if this has already been answered here.

[beemer]

Oops, my bad. :punch: That puts her in Grade sex.

Haaaaa I think i skipped that grade LOL :beer: Great comeback ;)

[lorettalockhorn]

I thought the same thing Suz when Loretta posted the 2 pictures side by side. that is so weird.........

The best full frontal pic of GSJ that I could find is here:

http://www.wftv.com/slideshow/news/17167672/detail.html

Hard for me to see the resemblance here, but maybe with a different photo.

[lorettalockhorn]

Is Crystal seeing her little boy on weekends? Sorry if this has already been answered here.

As far as I know she does, the twitter people usually keep track of which weekend is hers (I think the theory is that something big will go down when Junior is on an away weekend from Ron). Think it's coming up.

[lorettalockhorn]

Haaaaa I think i skipped that grade LOL :beer: Great comeback ;)

Cuz you loved Grade fore! :tongue:

http://i41.tinypic.com/2j0b1mv.jpg

Still want those pants!

[SaraSidle]

Cuz you loved Grade fore! :tongue:

http://i41.tinypic.com/2j0b1mv.jpg

Still want those pants!

so very bad

[Bullwinkle]

Could you imagine the Cummings, Croslin, and Anthony family on Jerry Springer?

Jerry Springer: Ron, some people are claiming that you are a dysfunctional family, what do you say?

Ron Cummings: Uhh, the nice lady with the big boobs in the green room last night, and they were whoppers, told me that you would only ask easy questions. Like Ms Nancy does. What does dys-whatever mean?

Jerry Springer: Ok, lets move on to Misty, Misty welcome to the program, what can you tell us about doing laundry?

Misty: Well I do it regular like. Every February 10th I wash. Course I don’t have no soap, Ron’s too cheap to buy it, but I put everything in the washer and drier and just pretend. In fact I was so tired after putting all the dirty clothes in that I needed a little nap.

Oh by the way Jerry, Ron and I just want to thank you for paying the Motel 6 bill last night, and if they call you, it wasn’t us that stole the sheets and towels out of the room.

Jerry Springer: Lets move on to the Anthony Family. George and Cindy, your daughter Casey sits in jail accused of murdering Caylee Anthony. What are you doing to help?

Cindy: Well Jerry, we have set up more foundations than you can shake a stick at, we have the best ambulance chasing legal team ever assembled, we are pretty confident that we can pin the murder on someone else. Oh and George used to be in the cop biz, so he knows a person or two.

George: Thats right! All the evidence against my daughter Casey is BS. We employed some of the best people in the business, we have the Milsteads, and their T-shirt sales are going well. Of course we have the minor issue of the forged checks, but I have confidence in Jose Bozo Baez, he will find a way to make that problem go away.

Full article (http://www.bloggernews.net/122439)

[SaraSidle]

Wasn't there an elderly man claiming to be an excop involved in that weird search Cobra did? they found an inhaler and shoe buried?? I wonder if it is the guy lady of the scrubs is working with????IMO

[SaraSidle]

Could you imagine the Cummings, Croslin, and Anthony family on Jerry Springer?

Jerry Springer: Ron, some people are claiming that you are a dysfunctional family, what do you say?

Ron Cummings: Uhh, the nice lady with the big boobs in the green room last night, and they were whoppers, told me that you would only ask easy questions. Like Ms Nancy does. What does dys-whatever mean?

Jerry Springer: Ok, lets move on to Misty, Misty welcome to the program, what can you tell us about doing laundry?

Misty: Well I do it regular like. Every February 10th I wash. Course I don’t have no soap, Ron’s too cheap to buy it, but I put everything in the washer and drier and just pretend. In fact I was so tired after putting all the dirty clothes in that I needed a little nap.

Oh by the way Jerry, Ron and I just want to thank you for paying the Motel 6 bill last night, and if they call you, it wasn’t us that stole the sheets and towels out of the room.

Jerry Springer: Lets move on to the Anthony Family. George and Cindy, your daughter Casey sits in jail accused of murdering Caylee Anthony. What are you doing to help?

Cindy: Well Jerry, we have set up more foundations than you can shake a stick at, we have the best ambulance chasing legal team ever assembled, we are pretty confident that we can pin the murder on someone else. Oh and George used to be in the cop biz, so he knows a person or two.

George: Thats right! All the evidence against my daughter Casey is BS. We employed some of the best people in the business, we have the Milsteads, and their T-shirt sales are going well. Of course we have the minor issue of the forged checks, but I have confidence in Jose Bozo Baez, he will find a way to make that problem go away.

Full article (http://www.bloggernews.net/122439)

LOL I do not think I can handle that one!!!!!!!!! have to go to sleep now and not dream!!!!!!!!!!1

[Marian Paroo]

Speaking of pedophiles...I noticed Woody Allen is calling for Roman Polanski to be freed. Talk about two peas in a pod. Geeeeesh.

Please keep me posted on Nancy Grace's show, I don't get to watch it until the 1:00am time slot!


Were I Polanski, the Last person I would want to speak up for me would be Allen!

They should not put him in jail. Out of the airplane, behind the nearest building. bullet to the head.

You have a little problem there, Deacon: he will be landing in America, not in Iran.

[deacon]

Were I Polanski, the Last person I would want to speak up for me would be Allen!



You have a little problem there, Deacon: he will be landing in America, not in Iran.

In this case, he needs to land where ever the problem will be solved. This guy is a usless piece of garbage that needs t be done away with.

[Marian Paroo]

In this case, he needs to land where ever the problem will be solved. This guy is a usless piece of garbage that needs t be done away with.

Well, you know from my very first post what I think of him:mad:

But you also know from my other posts that although I am an American living overseas, I am very proud of the Constitution and, in general, law in the USA.

[Amy]

Yeah, but how'd he know about the well? Turns out there was one there. I guess he would claim a vision. But I don't buy that stuff, imo.

I don't either. But, IMO, since he is proclaiming to be a psychic he will most likely tell LE that he had a vision--regardless of how he knew the well was there, etc.

[Amy]

Wasn't there an elderly man claiming to be an excop involved in that weird search Cobra did? they found an inhaler and shoe buried?? I wonder if it is the guy lady of the scrubs is working with????IMO

I think this guy is one of the family. Related to Marie? I don't think it was related to Teresa.

[Etherealgirl]

Wow, thanks! Didn't Shoemaker tell NG that fingerprints are used to clock in, but didn't specify when that was instituted? You're right, it is more sophisticated now. As for workers slipping in and out of work "all the time", didn't we read somewhere that Misty wanted to know if Ron had been home at some time earlier than when he arrived circa 3-3:30am? Once again, we wonder if that's something he did from time to time.

Very welcome Loretta. I just hope LE knows all of this, surely they do?

GRACE: Terry a well known attorney in the Jacksonville area. Number one, are there witnesses placing Ronald Cummings at work about 30 minutes before he was supposed to punch in and that he was there until his shift ended, the night shift? Yes, no.

SHOEMAKER: Yes. And it`s not a punch-in, you know, as far as a time clock.

GRACE: Correct.

SHOEMAKER: They actually have to use their fingerprints in order to scan in and check in for work, so...

GRACE: OK. Even better.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0909/28/ng.01.html

[beemer]

Cuz you loved Grade fore! :tongue:

http://i41.tinypic.com/2j0b1mv.jpg

Still want those pants!

LMFAO-well then drive on over and get em LOL Doesn't he have a house in your state :D Then we wanna see a pic with you in em :tongue:

[Etherealgirl]

I don't either. But, IMO, since he is proclaiming to be a psychic he will most likely tell LE that he had a vision--regardless of how he knew the well was there, etc.

Since he supposedly 'saw' the area and lay of the land, his psychic 'technique' (ESP) sounds like he was using "remote viewing". It's actually used by the CIA, and most of the info available concerning the CIA's use of it is still under wraps (and probably always will be).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remote_viewing

He's in his 80's..I believe he was just an informant for the FBI, instead of like a retired employee. Maybe he was just 'tapping in to his dementia'? I'm not saying he is senile, because there are quite a few people in their 80's that are as 'sharp as a tack', but then there are those who aren't.

I was thinking that if the scrubs woman was that psychic with the dog (can't remember her name) wouldn't it be odd for her to be teamed up with another so called psychic? Or maybe she convinced him to say he provided the information?

[Etherealgirl]

The only Chads that I've read about in this case are Chad Griffis, Crystal's fiance, and Chad Reynolds the RSO who went poof a week of so before Haleigh disappeared. Not likely that Chad would party with Misty, and he lives in another county, and IIRC Chad R lived with his mother also some distance from Satsuma. I've seen people asking on other boards who Chad is, but haven't seen any answer yet. (I'll keep snooping.)

Read somewhere else that GGMS had stated that Ron and Jr are back at her house, but no word of Misty being home or not. According to the CNN/NG site, she'll be on with Miss Nancy with Ron Thursday night.

Wind, I've heard/read Crystal say that her kids love Misty. Don't think she would admit that if they hadn't told her that. :shrug:

Okay, let me get this straight, lol. Chad Griffis is Crystal's fiancé (and father of her baby daughter)? Actually he was her fiancé, the word out now is he has split because Crystal had a fling with someone else.

Marie Griffis is Crystal's mother.

If this (http://friends.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=profile.friendmoods&friendId=482562836&dateTime=307022843) really is Marie's Myspace, I am wondering what this comment means? What couple?

Mz.JaGgAR~HiLl
Mz.JaGgAR~HiLl Posted at 1:25 AM Sep 24
Y did it take so long 4 this 2 cum out? so the couple knew all along charge them and misty will open up IF ITS TRUE.I PRAY SHE IS SAFE .GOD BRING HER HOME ASAP..NANNY IT B OK GOD ON UR SIDE WE GOT 2 PRAY.

[ErrinSpelling]

Wasn't there an elderly man claiming to be an excop involved in that weird search Cobra did? they found an inhaler and shoe buried?? I wonder if it is the guy lady of the scrubs is working with????IMO

sara,i think that was crystal's father.

[lorettalockhorn]

Okay, let me get this straight, lol. Chad Griffis is Crystal's fiancé (and father of her baby daughter)? Actually he was her fiancé, the word out now is he has split because Crystal had a fling with someone else.

Marie Griffis is Crystal's mother.

If this (http://friends.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=profile.friendmoods&friendId=482562836&dateTime=307022843) really is Marie's Myspace, I am wondering what this comment means? What couple?

Mz.JaGgAR~HiLl
Mz.JaGgAR~HiLl Posted at 1:25 AM Sep 24
Y did it take so long 4 this 2 cum out? so the couple knew all along charge them and misty will open up IF ITS TRUE.I PRAY SHE IS SAFE .GOD BRING HER HOME ASAP..NANNY IT B OK GOD ON UR SIDE WE GOT 2 PRAY.

No clue what that means. :confused:

I'll assume this is Marie's myspace, clicking on the pic takes you to:

http://www.myspace.com/haleighsnana

According to her twitter page, she studies the Psalms and Proverbs:

http://twitter.com/marie1207

The story we got from Cobra (I think?) was that Crystal and Picazzio were messing around with Jeremy Regan (sp?), the Haleigh Bug Center director. I think it was his father who was out with the Sheffields and the Griffises and the tracking dog when the inhaler or nebulizer was "found". Didn't know that the engagement was off, last I read it was postponed and Crystal still had her wedding dress on layaway. Chad is Marie's husband's son.

[Justice Denied?]

With this being another slow news day, I don't suppose anyone knows if Kristina ("Nay Nay") Prevatt is related to Joe Prevatt in Starke, Florida, who made the news today in this story (http://www.news4jax.com/news/21140774/detail.html).

I don't mean to be cruel or ugly but it seems with all the incest, inbreeding and intermarrying, all the lower class people in that part of FL are kin one way or another.

[lorettalockhorn]

I don't mean to be cruel or ugly but it seems with all the incest, inbreeding and intermarrying, all the lower class people in that part of FL are kin one way or another.

Does anyone in the same family have the same last name anyway?!

[Justice Denied?]

The 80 yearold retired FBI guy is psychic? Nah.

Nawny, I think you may be reading the info the wrong way, as I did atfirst. The guy is a retired FBI informantnot a former agent. You're right though, no faith in psychics.

[Etherealgirl]

No clue what that means. :confused:

I'll assume this is Marie's myspace, clicking on the pic takes you to:

http://www.myspace.com/haleighsnana

According to her twitter page, she studies the Psalms and Proverbs:

http://twitter.com/marie1207

The story we got from Cobra (I think?) was that Crystal and Picazzio were messing around with Jeremy Regan (sp?), the Haleigh Bug Center director. I think it was his father who was out with the Sheffields and the Griffises and the tracking dog when the inhaler or nebulizer was "found". Didn't know that the engagement was off, last I read it was postponed and Crystal still had her wedding dress on layaway. Chad is Marie's husband's son.

Thanks for the excellent info Loretta.

[ErrinSpelling]

No clue what that means. :confused:

I'll assume this is Marie's myspace, clicking on the pic takes you to:

http://www.myspace.com/haleighsnana

According to her twitter page, she studies the Psalms and Proverbs:

http://twitter.com/marie1207

The story we got from Cobra (I think?) was that Crystal and Picazzio were messing around with Jeremy Regan (sp?), the Haleigh Bug Center director. I think it was his father who was out with the Sheffields and the Griffises and the tracking dog when the inhaler or nebulizer was "found". Didn't know that the engagement was off, last I read it was postponed and Crystal still had her wedding dress on layaway. Chad is Marie's husband's son.

oh,his father was out with cobra too.i didn't know.
:seeya: - he's back.

[lorettalockhorn]

oh,his father was out with cobra too.i didn't know.
:seeya: - he's back.

Let me do some schlepping outside and then I'll see if I can mind something about that madness to post (it's in here somewhere). For some reason I'm thinking it was Mr. Regan (Reagan?) who was on that wild goose chase.

[Etherealgirl]

She's baaackkkkk! Misty Croslin -

Breaking News -- Investigators ramp up their search for missing Florida girl Haleigh Cummings while the key witness in the case, Haleigh's stepmom baby sitter Misty Croslin, is finally back in town after going AWOL!

Read Here (http://ow.ly/rYKe)

[beemer]

Wow-wonder where she is staying-that could be interesting. Did i read that she and Ron are suppose to appear together on NG ?

[Etherealgirl]

Wow-wonder where she is staying-that could be interesting. Did i read that she and Ron are suppose to appear together on NG ?

There's no telling where. I heard that about them being on NG. I don't know if I could stomach that. It's got to where every time RC is on there, I have to get busy doing something else and just take a peek here and there or my head will explode!

[lorettalockhorn]

Okay, the San Mateo search (apparently instigated by a tip from a psychic) was what started Gunnygate and according to the dog handler, John Regan impersonated a FBI ; here's Timothy Holmsmith's account:

http://writeintoaction.com/STORY%20HaLeigh%20Family%20Fake%20Search.htm

[lorettalockhorn]

Wow-wonder where she is staying-that could be interesting. Did i read that she and Ron are suppose to appear together on NG ?

That's what Miss Nancy's blurb said on the CNN site yesterday. So maybe Trysty was just out having a makeover or sumpin. She can't show up looking older than Mother Teresa. ;)

[Etherealgirl]

I wonder if she will continue to stay with Ron? I really hope we could find out the truth about where she has been and who she was with,

OT: John Couey (Jessica Lunsford's rapist/murderer) died in prison..he was 51 and died from 'natural' causes?

Read Here (http://www.myfoxtampabay.com/dpp/news/state/Sources_John_Couey_is_dead)

[beemer]

Thanks ladies for your replies :beer: ;) I was beginning to wonder if Trysty was in the Witness Protection Program :tongue:

[beemer]

I wonder if she will continue to stay with Ron? I really hope we could find out the truth about where she has been and who she was with,

OT: John Couey (Jessica Lunsford's rapist/murderer) died in prison..he was 51 and died from 'natural' causes?

Read Here (http://www.myfoxtampabay.com/dpp/news/state/Sources_John_Couey_is_dead)

Wow Wind will be doing the dance-or maybe not she may have been hanging in there for something more painful. I know i wouldn't have a problem with it being agonizing :rose:

[Etherealgirl]

That's what Miss Nancy's blurb said on the CNN site yesterday. So maybe Trysty was just out having a makeover or sumpin. She can't show up looking younger than Mother Teresa. ;)

LOL!!!!!:D

Wow imagine being only 17 years old and it taking that long to get a makeover? Ewww.

TN's probably been workin' on hers for months. And I hate it for her but her makeover didn't take.

[lorettalockhorn]

Okay, the San Mateo search (apparently instigated by a tip from a psychic) was what started Gunnygate and according to the dog handler, John Regan impersonated a FBI ; here's Timothy Holmsmith's account:

http://writeintoaction.com/STORY%20HaLeigh%20Family%20Fake%20Search.htm

DISCLAIMER: I'd bet my next litter of greatgrandpuppies that this guy is looney tunes and wish I could find another source, I think this search was reported on BNN.

[Etherealgirl]

Wow Wind will be doing the dance-or maybe not she may have been hanging in there for something more painful. I know i wouldn't have a problem with it being agonizing :rose:

I know Beemer, sometimes (most times) there is no justice. That's why I just let things like that go. As soon as Caylee was found I stopped following the case, because there isn't any justice, not in this life, and I know Caylee was resting in peace the second her sweet soul slipped from her little body.

And I know first hand and for a fact..there is no such thing as closure. Closure means you are dead.

[lorettalockhorn]

LOL!!!!!:D

Wow imagine being only 17 years old and knowing it took that long to get a makeover? Ewww.

TN's probably been workin' on hers for months. And I hate it for her but her makeover didn't take.

DUH me! I meant she can't show up looking older than Mother Teresa. :punch: Hope y'all have learned to read what I mean that what I write.

[lorettalockhorn]

I wonder if she will continue to stay with Ron? I really hope we could find out the truth about where she has been and who she was with,

OT: John Couey (Jessica Lunsford's rapist/murderer) died in prison..he was 51 and died from 'natural' causes?

Read Here (http://www.myfoxtampabay.com/dpp/news/state/Sources_John_Couey_is_dead)

Death couldn't have happened to a more deserving guy. Thanks for the link!

[Etherealgirl]

DISCLAIMER: I'd bet my next litter of greatgrandpuppies that this guy is looney tunes and wish I could find another source, I think this search was reported on BNN.

Awwww *squeeze* you have greatgrandpuppies??

I agree! I've never seen a case that brought as many dregs of society to the surface as this one has. And it's ain't over yet!

[Etherealgirl]

DUH me! I meant she can't show up looking older than Mother Teresa. :punch: Hope y'all have learned to read what I mean that what I write.

I don't see how anyone could look older than Mother Teresa (and I don't mean the Nun).

[lorettalockhorn]

I don't see how anyone could look older than Mother Teresa (and I don't mean the Nun).

Well, Lisa Croslin for one is doing a damned fine job of trying! Think TN is about ten years older. :eek: Lots of folks saying on the other boards that TN had a facelift sometime before her most recent appearances on The Miss Nancy Show, and it's true that she wasn't around much (was she swathed in bandages? Inquiring minds want to know!) Others say that she had merely dyed her hair and pulled it back.

[lorettalockhorn]

Awwww *squeeze* you have greatgrandpuppies??

I agree! I've never seen a case that brought as many dregs of society to the surface as this one has. And it's ain't over yet!

They've all been sold and given away, that b!tch snuck out the last time, but fortunately she met up with a fine specimen and whelped some good 'uns. Nine of them!

[Etherealgirl]

Well, Lisa Croslin for one is doing a damned fine job of trying! Think TN is about ten years older. :eek: Lots of folks saying on the other boards that TN had a facelift sometime before her most recent appearances on The Miss Nancy Show, and it's true that she wasn't around much (was she swathed in bandages? Inquiring minds want to know!) Others say that she had merely dyed her hair and pulled it back.

She definitely had at least an eye lift. A friend is a plastic surgeon and looked at bunches of before photos of her.

Apparently the news that RC and MC were going to be on NG was a lie.

That last "Special" that NG aired was promoted the same way - saying that there would be interviews with RC and MC. It was all old footage. Apparently NG is famous for using old footage for her 'specials'.

Here. (http://twitter.com/HaleighNewz)

[Amy]

LMFAO-well then drive on over and get em LOL Doesn't he have a house in your state :D Then we wanna see a pic with you in em :tongue:

I am guessing this is either a famous golfer or a comedian or something along that line. What's his name? Sure looks like he's enjoying himself, probably has a lot to do with the confidence his attire gives him, lol!!!!

[Amy]

I wonder if she will continue to stay with Ron? I really hope we could find out the truth about where she has been and who she was with,

OT: John Couey (Jessica Lunsford's rapist/murderer) died in prison..he was 51 and died from 'natural' causes?

Read Here (http://www.myfoxtampabay.com/dpp/news/state/Sources_John_Couey_is_dead)

He certainly looked to be in his 80's @ least, in the pics I remember anyway. So, I would imagine a life of drugs and alcohol (assuming he led that kind of life) could do great damage to the body, and it could be that he died of natural causes. Wasn't there some sort of sympathy card being played about putting a sick man in prison? Or, guess that could be about many other cases I have read--anything to try to get a lesser sentence for some creeping scumbag POS.

[Etherealgirl]

He certainly looked to be in his 80's @ least, in the pics I remember anyway. So, I would imagine a life of drugs and alcohol (assuming he led that kind of life) could do great damage to the body, and it could be that he died of natural causes. Wasn't there some sort of sympathy card being played about putting a sick man in prison? Or, guess that could be about many other cases I have read--anything to try to get a lesser sentence for some creeping scumbag POS.

It's true, that sort of lifestyle ages people in dog years (my apologies to doggies). Just look at some of the 'characters' involved in the Haleigh case.

[lorettalockhorn]

She definitely had at least an eye lift. A friend is a plastic surgeon and looked at bunches of before photos of her.

Apparently the news that RC and MC were going to be on NG was a lie.

That last "Special" that NG aired was promoted the same way - saying that there would be interviews with RC and MC. It was all old footage. Apparently NG is famous for using old footage for her 'specials'.

Here. (http://twitter.com/HaleighNewz)

Seems like she touted a special on the Anthony case that never came to fruition too. In fact, she was off for a few days during the two day period that the Anthony case was going to be updated or whatever IIRC.

[lorettalockhorn]

I am guessing this is either a famous golfer or a comedian or something along that line. What's his name? Sure looks like he's enjoying himself, probably has a lot to do with the confidence his attire gives him, lol!!!!

Not sure how I missed this post from Beemer, but Amy, this is John Daly a sorta local boy from across the river from me. He's a yahoo, with lots of problems with wives and ex-wives and the law and the bottle and cameras, etc, etc, etc. But he has one of the most loyal followings of just about any other professional golfer that I know of.

Beemy, I think he built a house on Lake Hamilton; last time we were out there on the boat, Leroy's buddy pointed out the lot where it was going to go up. Of course by now, it might have been sold to pay wifey's attorney's fees or something.

Love his wild attire; those pants are made by Loudmouth and JD is certainly a good one to show them off, because he is just that. Think I found them at Bogey Pro, only $89 bucks. *ouch*

[Amy]

Very welcome Loretta. I just hope LE knows all of this, surely they do?

GRACE: Terry a well known attorney in the Jacksonville area. Number one, are there witnesses placing Ronald Cummings at work about 30 minutes before he was supposed to punch in and that he was there until his shift ended, the night shift? Yes, no.

SHOEMAKER: Yes. And it`s not a punch-in, you know, as far as a time clock.

GRACE: Correct.

SHOEMAKER: They actually have to use their fingerprints in order to scan in and check in for work, so...

GRACE: OK. Even better.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0909/28/ng.01.html

I was thinking I had read upthread that the fingerprint scan for clocking in was instuted AFTER Haleigh disappeared? Not, of course, necessarily that it was put in because of the case, but just that the clocking in procedure was changed, and it changed after Feb. 10 (wonder when.)

Also from this same transcript:

CE: ... Peter Odom. OK, you`re the defense attorney. So it`s not helping Croslin for you to say the brother`s story that she wasn`t home at the time Haleigh goes missing was accurate, all right? So help out Misty, if you can. Maybe you can`t.

ODOM: I think you`d have to look at the course of conduct between Misty and Ron. You know, it`s clear that they were arguing at some point close to that time. If she wasn`t answering the phone, he might not have thought anything about it, Nancy.

I think Odom needs to get up to speed on the case, too. Of course Ron "thought something about it" (Misti not answering the phone) else he would not have called Misti's brother to check up on her. DUH!!!!!!! Good grief!!!! :rolleyes:

[Amy]

Wow-wonder where she is staying-that could be interesting. Did i read that she and Ron are suppose to appear together on NG ?

Wonder if GGMS and TN and even Ron will welcome her back into their fold w/open arms? Or, if she would think it safe for her to go there?

It's a given she doesn't have any of HER family to bunk with, what w/her mom having not only moved, but is in jail (or has she bonded out?) and brother Timmy clear up in MA, and then there's that little order of protection against brother Tommy--can't very well go to HIS house!!!! :D

[beemer]

I am guessing this is either a famous golfer or a comedian or something along that line. What's his name? Sure looks like he's enjoying himself, probably has a lot to do with the confidence his attire gives him, lol!!!!
Yep he is a golfer Amy-John Daly. He has a book out and it quite a read. He has had an interesting life to say the least. Ya cant help but luv the guy. He's off the booze now so he says and I hope so. He has a big heart.

[beemer]

Sorry Loretta i should read thru before responding to Amy DUH :shrug:

[Etherealgirl]

Wonder if GGMS and TN and even Ron will welcome her back into their fold w/open arms? Or, if she would think it safe for her to go there?

It's a given she doesn't have any of HER family to bunk with, what w/her mom having not only moved, but is in jail (or has she bonded out?) and brother Timmy clear up in MA, and then there's that little order of protection against brother Tommy--can't very well go to HIS house!!!! :D

I've read all over the place that Lisa Croslin's bond was revoked today. There's no verification though.

[beemer]

Wonder if GGMS and TN and even Ron will welcome her back into their fold w/open arms? Or, if she would think it safe for her to go there?

It's a given she doesn't have any of HER family to bunk with, what w/her mom having not only moved, but is in jail (or has she bonded out?) and brother Timmy clear up in MA, and then there's that little order of protection against brother Tommy--can't very well go to HIS house!!!! :D

I know-its so frustrating. Will we know where she goes? And if Ron takes her back should she be back right now(In my opine she should never have been there to begin with) Is it safe. Will she go back cuz she has no place to go. And the bigger question will the reporting be accurate :shrug: Having a Liar Grrr moment :tongue:

[lorettalockhorn]

Sorry Loretta i should read thru before responding to Amy DUH :shrug:

No prob, you know scads more about him in some respects than I do. :beer: (But no beer for John.)

[lorettalockhorn]

Haleigh Cummings – Misty Mystery Solved

Misty Croslin Cummings sudden vacation caused a great deal of rumblings online. There were two wonderful although completely bogus rumors.

My favorite was that Misty Cummings was under protective custody. I will not name names, but here is the quote from someone close to the investigation:

Are you kidding! She would be the last person we would make that offer to!

The other silly rumor was that Misty had turned herself into some sort of religious facility and was spilling the beans. This story has subsequently and mysteriously disappeared from the site involved. Ahh the joys of the internet! There is no need to verify your information, just publish. This particular site is a no name blog, so I guess there was no harm done.

So what is the real story? My sources, and they are very reliable, tell me that Misty did indeed spend a day at Universal Studios, but that was not the prime motivation. Ronald and Misty did not have a huge fight, again nonsense created online, rather it was a planned trip.

You may not like Ronald Cummings or Misty Croslin Cummings, and I certainly do not, but, think about if for a moment. These two people have been in the media spotlight for months. Their stress level must be pretty high.

Misty left somewhat quietly just to get away for a few days, time away from the constant pressure, she did by the way return last night. What you may not be aware of is that last Friday Ronald Cummings also went to Orlando. Misty, Ron, and Junior had a great day at a local park. Junior could be a little boy again, rather than a lab experiment under the press microscope.

I think one of the things that many people miss is the fact that there are innocent victims in this case. Sure, we would all like to throw the whole family behind bars, they seem to have very few redeeming features. But what about Junior? Doesn’t he deserve some respect? Of course it would be valid to argue that Junior is going to grow up to be just as dysfunctional as the rest of the clan but only time will tell...

http://www.bloggernews.net/122446

[lorettalockhorn]

>>Ronald and Misty did not have a huge fight, again nonsense created online

Er um Simon, that would be your frequent esteemed panelist, award winning journalist Art Harris.

[deacon]

Okay, the San Mateo search (apparently instigated by a tip from a psychic) was what started Gunnygate and according to the dog handler, John Regan impersonated a FBI ; here's Timothy Holmsmith's account:

http://writeintoaction.com/STORY%20HaLeigh%20Family%20Fake%20Search.htm

That is simply sick. None of these *people* can tell the truth.

[wind149]

Dance! I feel like screaming from the rooftop that scumbag is DEAD!!! And it is too bad that he croaked probably from a heart attack, but I am hoping that maybe befire he gasped his last, he felt some pain because I would imagine why Mark is probably thrilled he is dead, he probably would have prefered to watch him be executed, but he will take DEAD!!!! And it is a damm shame, some inmate did not get a chance to put the beatdown on him, a plunger up the wazoo with some force by Bubba would have been a nice touch and maybe a good stranglehold so he would know first hand how Jessie felt in that hole as she lay trying to breathe and what always made me so pissed, is it took between 1-8 minutes for that beautiful child to die and that maggot had her believing if she got in the bag, she was going home to her family and can you imagine the horror the child felt when she realized that was not going to happen and there was no way she could have ever gotten out of the hole? What made me want to rip that dirtbag apart is when LE dug up her body, her little fingers had tried to poke holes in the bag in an attempt to free herself, so yeah, I felt cheated that this POS did not die painfully or be executed so Mark could have the pleasure of watching him gasp his last, but one less POS sitting on death row sucking up tax dollars is OK by me!!!

As for Misty, if she is back in Deliverance, where is she hanging? Is she back with Ron?? As for whether or not Teresa had some work, well she looked a damm sight better when I saw her on NG last week than she did when we first saw her on our TV's when Haleigh went missing. As for the old guy, I think he is a tad demented and probably thought he was helping and if he was a former profiler or some other investigator, his rendition was plausible, however, proved to be unfounded, but it did make prefect sense as that could have happened to Haleigh. I just wish Misty would come clean, but it is more than apparent that is not going to happen, she is going to hold out till the last minute when she no longer has any cards to play and by doing this, she will not fare well with a jury and is only hurting herself. She knows where Casey is and knows that is where she will be if she confesses. I still think that if it was accidental, she should have come forward and taken her lumps, but she is too dumb and self centered to understand, seeing as her lovely parents taught her to fear police and to save your own ass anyway you can even if you have to lie like hell. Based on that, she will be as screwed as Casey in the long run.

[Amy]

Haleigh Cummings – Misty Mystery Solved

Misty Croslin Cummings sudden vacation caused a great deal of rumblings online. There were two wonderful although completely bogus rumors.

My favorite was that Misty Cummings was under protective custody. I will not name names, but here is the quote from someone close to the investigation:

Are you kidding! She would be the last person we would make that offer to!

The other silly rumor was that Misty had turned herself into some sort of religious facility and was spilling the beans. This story has subsequently and mysteriously disappeared from the site involved. Ahh the joys of the internet! There is no need to verify your information, just publish. This particular site is a no name blog, so I guess there was no harm done.

So what is the real story? My sources, and they are very reliable, tell me that Misty did indeed spend a day at Universal Studios, but that was not the prime motivation. Ronald and Misty did not have a huge fight, again nonsense created online, rather it was a planned trip.

You may not like Ronald Cummings or Misty Croslin Cummings, and I certainly do not, but, think about if for a moment. These two people have been in the media spotlight for months. Their stress level must be pretty high.

Misty left somewhat quietly just to get away for a few days, time away from the constant pressure, she did by the way return last night. What you may not be aware of is that last Friday Ronald Cummings also went to Orlando. Misty, Ron, and Junior had a great day at a local park. Junior could be a little boy again, rather than a lab experiment under the press microscope.

I think one of the things that many people miss is the fact that there are innocent victims in this case. Sure, we would all like to throw the whole family behind bars, they seem to have very few redeeming features. But what about Junior? Doesn’t he deserve some respect? Of course it would be valid to argue that Junior is going to grow up to be just as dysfunctional as the rest of the clan but only time will tell...

http://www.bloggernews.net/122446

I do remember in the Elizabeth Smart case, the family did take a trek to Disneyland, a trip Elizabeth always wanted to take. This was before Elizabeth was rescued. I remember the hue and cry about that @ the time, too.

[beemer]

No prob, you know scads more about him in some respects than I do. :beer: (But no beer for John.)

For sure so we shall have one for him :beer: Hey he's an Arkie so I'm sure ya know lots.

[SuzDuJour]

The best full frontal pic of GSJ that I could find is here:

http://www.wftv.com/slideshow/news/17167672/detail.html

Hard for me to see the resemblance here, but maybe with a different photo.

She looks too big in your pic to be the scrubs lady...the pic I saw was Larry King Live and there was a strong likeness.

[SuzDuJour]

Does anyone in the same family have the same last name anyway?!

I think they all DO have the last name...it's just that it's a Detention Center ID number!

[lorettalockhorn]

Heads Up!

Joy Behar v Ann Coulter tonight, HLN, 9pm EST.

http://i10.tinypic.com/47kmbo8.jpg

[lorettalockhorn]

I think they all DO have the last name...it's just that it's a Detention Center ID number!


LMAO

I see baby announcements in the paper all the time where the parents aren't married, instead of four grandparents there are eight, same deal with the greats, and the new one's siblings all have different last names and just seeing it on paper makes you realize how fractured family life has become. Don't get me wrong, I know that there are all kinds of families, and God bless them, these parents (or sometimes it's a single mother with no father's last name mentioned) are just as proud as they could be, and rightfully so. But you just have to wonder what family life is really like for these little ones coming up. It has to be minimally confusing.

[beemer]

Heads Up!

Joy Behar v Ann Coulter tonight, HLN, 9pm EST.

http://i10.tinypic.com/47kmbo8.jpg

Luv the animation!!!! You will have to fill me in. Our cable co dropped HLN :(:cuss::flamemad:

[Amy]

LMAO

I see baby announcements in the paper all the time where the parents aren't married, instead of four grandparents there are eight, same deal with the greats, and the new one's siblings all have different last names and just seeing it on paper makes you realize how fractured family life has become. Don't get me wrong, I know that there are all kinds of families, and God bless them, these parents (or sometimes it's a single mother with no father's last name mentioned) are just as proud as they could be, and rightfully so. But you just have to wonder what family life is really like for these little ones coming up. It has to be minimally confusing.

Some years ago, a house fire took the life of a baby. There were 4 other kids, and as they listed their names, there were 3 different last names. None of which was the last name of the mother, BTW.

My nephews begged to be adopted by their mom's husband so they could have the same last name as the parents and their little sister.

We see girls/women coming in to have their babies, and many times the older siblings don't have the same last names--the newborn will have the name of the current bf, but the next baby to come along will have the name of the next bf. Last week, there was a 17 y/o having her 4th baby. :eek: To Daddy--"how many kids do you have now?" Daddy--"This is my first, but my wife (and they aren't married, BTW) has 4 now."

Much more common occurance than I could have believed before I took my current job, that's for sure. Some of this, you can't believe unless you see it w/your own eyes.

[deacon]

I was thinking I had read upthread that the fingerprint scan for clocking in was instuted AFTER Haleigh disappeared? Not, of course, necessarily that it was put in because of the case, but just that the clocking in procedure was changed, and it changed after Feb. 10 (wonder when.)

Also from this same transcript:



I think Odom needs to get up to speed on the case, too. Of course Ron "thought something about it" (Misti not answering the phone) else he would not have called Misti's brother to check up on her. DUH!!!!!!! Good grief!!!! :rolleyes:

He was probably more worried about who was *boinking* his "woman" than the children.

[Amy]

There are some interesting answers to the profiles filled out. One on a 14 y/o---Marital status:single. Where do you live? With parents. Occupation? HOUSEWIFE!!!!! You have to be kidding!!!!:chicken:

[deacon]

I think they all DO have the last name...it's just that it's a Detention Center ID number!

and probably their very own personalized "jump suit."

[SaraSidle]

With this being another slow news day, I don't suppose anyone knows if Kristina ("Nay Nay") Prevatt is related to Joe Prevatt in Starke, Florida, who made the news today in this story (http://www.news4jax.com/news/21140774/detail.html).

I read that also Bullwinkle and I thought the same thing.

[SuzDuJour]

and probably their very own personalized "jump suit."

LOL! Yes, the orange ones you see as they're picking up trash on the side of the road. Only they misunderstood the 'picking up trash' part...

[lorettalockhorn]

Luv the animation!!!! You will have to fill me in. Our cable co dropped HLN :(:cuss::flamemad:

It's under "beatdown" at tinypic.com :hat:

Sorry to hear about your HLN, guess you're Jonesing for Miss Nancy, eh? Just checked the CNN transcript page and it doesn't look like they're currently doing the JB show. Too bad. Not sure that I can stomach Ann Coulter long enough to see Joy smack her.

DISH network always has great incentives for new accounts, BTW. (Too bad they're not as magnanimous with their old customers.) :rolleyes:

[lorettalockhorn]

LOL! Yes, the orange ones you see as they're picking up trash on the side of the road. Only they misunderstood the 'picking up trash' part...

I think picking up trash in Putnam County is interpreted as trolling for underage babysitters and/or baby mamas.

[beemer]

It's under "beatdown" at tinypic.com :hat:

Sorry to hear about your HLN, guess you're Jonesing for Miss Nancy, eh? Just checked the CNN transcript page and it doesn't look like they're currently doing the JB show. Too bad. Not sure that I can stomach Ann Coulter long enough to see Joy smack her.

DISH network always has great incentives for new accounts, BTW. (Too bad they're not as magnanimous with their old customers.) :rolleyes:

Thanks for letting me know where to find it. Goverment has us by the b**** here. We have acess to cable and only 2 other satellite co's. Bell and Dishnet. Prices are crazy for what u get. About a 100.00 a month with either Satellite gets you mostly Canadian stations a very few American. If you want more American stations you pay much more. We will figure something out by the time the snow flies. We had a European FREE to air box but it is presently down. Ann Coulter makes me crazy too!!! She reminds me of Spindy now that i think of her off the wall thought process ;)

[BeastofBears]

Thanks for letting me know where to find it. Goverment has us by the b**** here. We have acess to cable and only 2 other satellite co's. Bell and Dishnet. Prices are crazy for what u get. About a 100.00 a month with either Satellite gets you mostly Canadian stations a very few American. If you want more American stations you pay much more. We will figure something out by the time the snow flies. We had a European FREE to air box but it is presently down. Ann Coulter makes me crazy too!!! She reminds me of Spindy now that i think of her off the wall thought process ;)

Ah. Socialized cable.

[lorettalockhorn]

Thanks for letting me know where to find it. Goverment has us by the b**** here. We have acess to cable and only 2 other satellite co's. Bell and Dishnet. Prices are crazy for what u get. About a 100.00 a month with either Satellite gets you mostly Canadian stations a very few American. If you want more American stations you pay much more. We will figure something out by the time the snow flies. We had a European FREE to air box but it is presently down. Ann Coulter makes me crazy too!!! She reminds me of Spindy now that i think of her off the wall thought process ;)

Man, you're just on the wrong side of the Great Lakes! Get down heah. To be honest, I don't understand my DISH bill any more than I understand my phone bill (but I can lop off $6/mo if I hook up a phone line to my DVR). We have the 250 channel thingie, which is actually quite a few more than 250, but prolly don't even look at most of them, and one DVR set up to record on two TVs and it's $80/mo. We've got (basic) cable too inside and outside with no DVR or anything fayansee, except sucky internet and it's $40/mo. I've got a friend in Tulsa who has his phone+cable+internet on Cox Cable and he pays about $60/mo. Go figure. For what he gets I'm paying $180/mo. :cuss:

[lorettalockhorn]

Haleigh Cummings Update: Lisa Croslin Extradition

97.3 The SKY has learned from the Davidson County, TN Clerk regarding Lisa Croslin’s hearing:

Lisa Croslin’s hearing Wednesday resulted in Croslin signing waivers so that FL authorities can come and pick her up
A status court date of 10/14/09 was entered - FL has 10 days to pick up Croslin so this date will not likely result in another hearing in Davidson assuming FL comes to take her back to Putnam County
The waiver is an extradition waiver required in order for her to be transferred
The $100K bond was changed – because Croslin signed the waivers they changed the bond to an “open court” bond – it’s for security reasons, so a bondsman can’t bond her out before FL officials come to get her


http://www.thesky973.com/pages/5336345.php

[beemer]

Ah. Socialized cable.

Yep :beer:

[lorettalockhorn]

TJ Hart to Step Aside from Nancy Grace Show Coverage of Haleigh Cummings

This just in from TJ Hart. I admire TJ’s diplomacy, it is certainly better than mine would be under the circumstances. I also suspect that this will be one of the items that gets mentioned on our regular Sunday radio program. I applaud TJ for his honesty and integrity. It is a shame that there are not more members of the press like TJ - Simon

I informed the producers of the Nancy Grace Show this morning that I will be stepping aside from the national coverage of the Haleigh Cummings disappearance is Satsuma, FL. I have elected instead to spend more time on the local aspect of the story.

The members of the Nancy Grace Show staff have been kind and generous in allowing me to participate as a contributing reporter in their coverage of this tragedy.

I explained to one of the producers by phone this morning that the national headline coverage and the local stories we report seem to differ at times. I explained to her that this is a valid concern to a news director of couple of local radio stations.

She was very gracious in listening to me and my reasons for deciding to step aside on this story. I appreciated that.

TJ Hart

http://www.bloggernews.net/122452

[Amy]

TJ Hart to Step Aside from Nancy Grace Show Coverage of Haleigh Cummings

This just in from TJ Hart. I admire TJ’s diplomacy, it is certainly better than mine would be under the circumstances. I also suspect that this will be one of the items that gets mentioned on our regular Sunday radio program. I applaud TJ for his honesty and integrity. It is a shame that there are not more members of the press like TJ - Simon

I informed the producers of the Nancy Grace Show this morning that I will be stepping aside from the national coverage of the Haleigh Cummings disappearance is Satsuma, FL. I have elected instead to spend more time on the local aspect of the story.

The members of the Nancy Grace Show staff have been kind and generous in allowing me to participate as a contributing reporter in their coverage of this tragedy.

I explained to one of the producers by phone this morning that the national headline coverage and the local stories we report seem to differ at times. I explained to her that this is a valid concern to a news director of couple of local radio stations.

She was very gracious in listening to me and my reasons for deciding to step aside on this story. I appreciated that.

TJ Hart

http://www.bloggernews.net/122452

Ah, diplomacy--not one of my better traits, altho I do try. It's best not to burn any bridges, as they say. A polite withdrawal, and who knows, he may be a contributing reporter some other time, some other case.

[Bullwinkle]

While we're waiting for some real progress in this case (and the daily alleged BOMBSHELL), here are some related YouTube videos I found:

Haleigh Cummings Family EXPOSED 0001 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GKXlKIvd7M)

Misty Croslin Cummings 0001 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=peLP_APO2LU) (with a classic photo at 3:47)

[beemer]

Thanks Bullwinkle-that was interesting to see. Welcome to by the way :seeya:

[Amy]

While we're waiting for some real progress in this case (and the daily alleged BOMBSHELL), here are some related YouTube videos I found:

Haleigh Cummings Family EXPOSED 0001 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GKXlKIvd7M)

Misty Croslin Cummings 0001 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=peLP_APO2LU) (with a classic photo at 3:47)

Interesting also near the end, where it says that Misti called Ron over and over, but he didnt pick up. Now we find that Ron had called Misti over and over earlier in the evening and she didn't pick up. Yet, when she tries to call him, he doesn't bother? And, did Tommy call him back to say there was no one home? Seems, if he did, Ron would be anxious to take her call, to find out WTF she'd been earlier. And, if he didn't, seems Ron would be anxious to take her call, to see why she didn't answer the phone.

I loved that part--Ron didn't know because "he wuz @ werk" yet, he was able to correct Misti who WAS there (allegedly) about the sleeping arrangements? :D

[Bullwinkle]

Hey, thanks for the welcomes. I like this site. It sure is a lot more relaxed than the site I gave up on (http://twquestions.blogspot.com/2005/08/court-tv-message-boards.html).

[Etherealgirl]

The coverage of this case and the clans involved make me want to barf, and it just keeps going from bad to worse.

That blatant lie on NG last night announcing "the cops bring Misty back" or however it was phrased completely blew me away.

Then this:

SCHIAVO: Yes. She lives in the home. She`s back in the home with Ronald at Ronald`s grandmother`s.
GRACE: OK. So you`re telling me they`re together?
SCHIAVO: That`s what I`m being told, Nancy.
GRACE: So Marlaina, after all this time, where had she been? I know she doesn`t have a job.

Ronald Cummings has put so much effort into trying to find his missing 5-year-old daughter, he has been let go from his job. How did she manage to stay down at Disney World for a week in Orlando, living it up at Epcot? You know how much those tickets cost to get in?


Then her sucking up (again) to TN and TN telling her she could have told her where Misty was.

ARGGGGGGGG!

So I went back over the past week's transcripts of the show and discovered something.

In every show that TN was on, NG mentioned Misty's disappearance to everyone on the show (and speculated as to where she could be) except TN!

Then last night after Misty is back home:

GRACE: Then why couldn`t anyone seem to tell us exactly where she was during that time?

NEVES: I don`t know why anyone couldn`t tell you that because I could tell you.

[Etherealgirl]

Interesting also near the end, where it says that Misti called Ron over and over, but he didnt pick up. Now we find that Ron had called Misti over and over earlier in the evening and she didn't pick up. Yet, when she tries to call him, he doesn't bother? And, did Tommy call him back to say there was no one home? Seems, if he did, Ron would be anxious to take her call, to find out WTF she'd been earlier. And, if he didn't, seems Ron would be anxious to take her call, to see why she didn't answer the phone.

I loved that part--Ron didn't know because "he wuz @ werk" yet, he was able to correct Misti who WAS there (allegedly) about the sleeping arrangements? :D

It's also odd there were only 2 pings on the tower close to Ron's job and according to Ron he called 20 times.

And his little theory about "keeping your enemies closer" can be filed away in his ever growing file of lies.

He was only with Misty for 2 days while she was 'clearing her head'. She should have easily taken off to parts unknown (at least for awhile).

That means there is only 1 reason he and his mammy allowed her to come back into the fold. To appease her.

[lorettalockhorn]

While we're waiting for some real progress in this case (and the daily alleged BOMBSHELL), here are some related YouTube videos I found:

Haleigh Cummings Family EXPOSED 0001 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GKXlKIvd7M)

Misty Croslin Cummings 0001 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=peLP_APO2LU) (with a classic photo at 3:47)

So in the family exposed (As God is my witness I don't wanna be flashed by an of 'em! :eek: ), Mother Teresa makes it sound like she drove 180mph to get to the trailer, and that doesn't include getting dressed and picking up a photo of Haleigh on the way out the door. How convenient to have that photo for posters and such, but how did she know it would be necessary? And did/does Ron not have any photos?? The next day that pic looked like it had been wadded up and flattened out in one of the videos. :shrug:

Anyway, was Ron speaking to TN while Misty was on the 911 call? When he said that "we're fvcked, I didn' have anything to do with this."?

[lorettalockhorn]

Interesting also near the end, where it says that Misti called Ron over and over, but he didnt pick up. Now we find that Ron had called Misti over and over earlier in the evening and she didn't pick up. Yet, when she tries to call him, he doesn't bother? And, did Tommy call him back to say there was no one home? Seems, if he did, Ron would be anxious to take her call, to find out WTF she'd been earlier. And, if he didn't, seems Ron would be anxious to take her call, to see why she didn't answer the phone.

I loved that part--Ron didn't know because "he wuz @ werk" yet, he was able to correct Misti who WAS there (allegedly) about the sleeping arrangements? :D

LE is keeping that close to the vest or doesn't know yet whether or not Tommy and Ron spoke again after the call to check on everyone, but you have to wonder (I know, beating a dead horse) WHY Ron didn't come straight home from work.

Ron musta been drinking the Misty Koolaid (well, he married her didn't he?) and decided which of her versions was the best and repeated it about the sleeping arrangements.

Sorry, Ron, but your at work earning an honest living sounds like an alibi to me. Yeah, yeah, yeah. LE has cleared you. So they say to the public. *whew* Thank goodness LE never lies.

[lorettalockhorn]

The coverage of this case and the clans involved make me want to barf, and it just keeps going from bad to worse.

That blatant lie on NG last night announcing "the cops bring Misty back" or however it was phrased completely blew me away.

Then this:

SCHIAVO: Yes. She lives in the home. She`s back in the home with Ronald at Ronald`s grandmother`s.
GRACE: OK. So you`re telling me they`re together?
SCHIAVO: That`s what I`m being told, Nancy.
GRACE: So Marlaina, after all this time, where had she been? I know she doesn`t have a job.

Ronald Cummings has put so much effort into trying to find his missing 5-year-old daughter, he has been let go from his job. How did she manage to stay down at Disney World for a week in Orlando, living it up at Epcot? You know how much those tickets cost to get in?


Then her sucking up (again) to TN and TN telling her she could have told her where Misty was.

ARGGGGGGGG!

So I went back over the past week's transcripts of the show and discovered something.

In every show that TN was on, NG mentioned Misty's disappearance to everyone on the show (and speculated as to where she could be) except TN!

Then last night after Misty is back home:

GRACE: Then why couldn`t anyone seem to tell us exactly where she was during that time?

NEVES: I don`t know why anyone couldn`t tell you that because I could tell you.

At the beginning of this segment, didn't MS tell Miss Nancy that Misty is with Teresa? Does TN also live with GGMS? Was thinking that they all lived together at the time of the custody business, but didn't realize they're all in the same place now.

It's also odd there were only 2 pings on the tower close to Ron's job and according to Ron he called 20 times.

And his little theory about "keeping your enemies closer" can be filed away in his ever growing file of lies.

He was only with Misty for 2 days while she was 'clearing her head'. She should have easily taken off to parts unknown (at least for awhile).

That means there is only 1 reason he and his mammy allowed her to come back into the fold. To appease her.

Didn't know that about the two pings, thanks!

[Amy]

The coverage of this case and the clans involved make me want to barf, and it just keeps going from bad to worse.

That blatant lie on NG last night announcing "the cops bring Misty back" or however it was phrased completely blew me away.

Then this:

SCHIAVO: Yes. She lives in the home. She`s back in the home with Ronald at Ronald`s grandmother`s.
GRACE: OK. So you`re telling me they`re together?
SCHIAVO: That`s what I`m being told, Nancy.
GRACE: So Marlaina, after all this time, where had she been? I know she doesn`t have a job.

Ronald Cummings has put so much effort into trying to find his missing 5-year-old daughter, he has been let go from his job. How did she manage to stay down at Disney World for a week in Orlando, living it up at Epcot? You know how much those tickets cost to get in?


Then her sucking up (again) to TN and TN telling her she could have told her where Misty was.

ARGGGGGGGG!

So I went back over the past week's transcripts of the show and discovered something.

In every show that TN was on, NG mentioned Misty's disappearance to everyone on the show (and speculated as to where she could be) except TN!

Then last night after Misty is back home:

GRACE: Then why couldn`t anyone seem to tell us exactly where she was during that time?

NEVES: I don`t know why anyone couldn`t tell you that because I could tell you.

Too bad TN didn't say, "I could have told you if you had asked me."

And, she (NG) ought to be sanctioned in some way to put out the teaser of "the cops" bringing Misty back home. Doesn't she realize that makes her look like not only a liar herself, but a fool? Surely, even tho she isn't an investigator nor a reporter, she would want to have the facts straight BEFORE she put them out to draw folks to her show. IF I had seen the teaser, and IF I had watched the show, I would have been hollering big time @ her, and would never watch her again!!!!

AND, while I'm on a roll of NG complaints--if indeed Ronald Cummings has been searching for his daughter, I do wish she would put out specific instances when he actually did. Another big fat lie from NG's mouth herself--he did NOT lose his job because he was searching so diligently for his daughter (whose name he never seems to remember anyway) but because HE DID NOT BOTHER TO CHECK IN WITH THE COMPANY!!!! He may have just started, but I'm betting, if he had checked w/them and followed their instructions, he could have still been employed. And, since he's not doing anything productive @ the time, he could probably return to "making and honest" living. I know there isn't a time limit on grief and each person is different, etc etc etc, but @ some point in time, he is going to have to return to work. (Unless he comes up with a scheme like the A's seem to have.) What, is he going to be using searching for his daughter 10 years from now if they haven't found her yet? Anyway, my complaint was actually with Miz Nancy's mis reporting, it just spilled out on the work thing.

:flamemad::flamemad::flamemad:

[Amy]

So in the family exposed (As God is my witness I don't wanna be flashed by an of 'em! :eek: ), Mother Teresa makes it sound like she drove 180mph to get to the trailer, and that doesn't include getting dressed and picking up a photo of Haleigh on the way out the door. How convenient to have that photo for posters and such, but how did she know it would be necessary? And did/does Ron not have any photos?? The next day that pic looked like it had been wadded up and flattened out in one of the videos. :shrug:

Anyway, was Ron speaking to TN while Misty was on the 911 call? When he said that "we're fvcked, I didn' have anything to do with this."?

I'm guessing that TN doesn't find it odd that, when her son calls to say they can't find Haleigh, that, altho there has been nothing (@ least in what TN conveyed to GVS) that would indicate she was abducted and that TN would need a big ol' pic of Haleigh. In fact, she tells GVN something about how kids can hide and all that. Like the caption says---so, why the pic, TN? In the few seconds it took for you to get dressed and race to Ron's trailer? (I just had a naughty tho't---maybe THEY needed a pic of Haleigh, so they would recognize her when they found her, hiding under the couch or something? :D) God forgive me.

[Amy]

Another thing about NG--I guess whomever does her foot work is on vacation, and perhaps she doesn't read or listen to any news venues, but didn't the whole world (well, those of us who follow the case) KNOW that Misti had gone to Disney World? That was reproted how many days ago, and Miz Nancy is just now finding out????:eek: And, goes to show that most of the people she has on her show, (ie:the th's) don't follow the case closely, either, or any one of them could have told her.

And, where did she think Misti was going to go when she returned? No one in her family is there, except Tommy, and she has a restriction against him. Some other family is going to take her in? Plus, she and Ron had been together for the past several days, and he didn't do anything to her, nor her to him (that shows, anyway.) Seems he's still keeping his enemy close?