Haleigh Cummings 5yrs old Missing

[Amy]

Now see the more I think about the 911 the more I get suspicious it is an act. same with the door Loretta. And I think that is exactly why they got married. So they could never testify against one another. They have that thread over their heads connecting them. Lots of domestic disputes coming up...............IMO sara

They can't be forced to testify against each other about things that occurs during the marriage, or "pillow talk" during the marriage. But what happens and is said before marriage and after a divorce are another whole thing. @ least in the case I was watching in either CA or NV. The hit man and his wife were divorced by the time of the trial, and she was a witness, but they could not ask anything that occured during the marriage.

[deacon]

I had read that somewhere, which is why I was hoping that TES is going to include this in their search. I guess they would have to have the consent of the property owner (PDM) in order to do so. All LE would need is as search warrant. Hope that, if this is an area of interest to Tim Miller, that PDM will allow their search.

LE was quick to confirm that Ron was @ work as he said. But, wonder if they just checked time cards, or if they talked to other employees working that night? If they did talk to others, wonder if they missed the ones reporting he was not there the whole time, or if some did not come forth @ the time?

While they may have info, they could also be mad at ron and would lie to get him in trouble. Yep, there are people out there that would do that.

[deacon]

They can't be forced to testify against each other about things that occurs during the marriage, or "pillow talk" during the marriage. But what happens and is said before marriage and after a divorce are another whole thing. @ least in the case I was watching in either CA or NV. The hit man and his wife were divorced by the time of the trial, and she was a witness, but they could not ask anything that occured during the marriage.

IIRC, she/he can not be forced to testify. However, if she/he wishes to testify, she can.

[wind149]

Despite Misty's claims to have babysat for siblings and cousins and loved every minute of it, I would say that her parents probably made her do it, kinda like I had to and I hated my brother to begin with and sure as hell did not want to babysit for him and I think one of the main reasons I resented him, my whole family had me believing I was getting a sister as I really was cool with that, and instead they produced him and I took one look at him, freaked and told them to give him back to wherever he came from!!! I was angry for days and my grandpa knew it, so I was with them for a couple of weeks and grandpa wasn't thrilled they adopted him to begin with, because he did not think they could handle two kids and as it turned out, they couldn't. Now this deep resentment ran deep and the fact that they seemed to love him more did not help. When he was diagnosed as being epileptic, he got all of the attention and he would have seizures and I would get blamed for it and to this day, he is no kin of mine and I could care less about him and them, I have my bio family in my life now and I am very happy.

Now what if Misty harbored resentment towards kids in general and then she meets Ron decides to hook up with him and he has custody? I think she wanted to be with him so bad (YUK) that she thought she could handle the kids and I tell ya kids, staying at home days on end with two babies could get on anyone's nerve, sure would mine, and she could not party like she was used to and she is barely a smudge away from being retarded, wonder what her IQ level is and very immature, you could tell that by her interviews with the media and now we know that she did not get past 7th grade, not someone I would even trust with my cats for God's sakes and that moron trusts her with his two babies. Now I DO NOT buy that safe house crap either. If that was the case and someone was worried about how the kids were being treated, then why was Jr not taken? No, this poor child is dead and died that night and I just wish that useless twit would cop to it as I don't think she meant to kill her, like she slapped Haleigh and she fell and hit her head on the coffee table and died.

Now if this indeed happened, it would be considered an accidental death providing the ME determined that she died of a head injury consistent with connecting with a table, then she would not be charged with Haleigh's death. But think about it, we would call the cops and when they come to the house, we would own up to the fact that we hit her but not hard enough to kill her and she hit her head on the table and died and if this is the case we would be completely devastated and would be honest about it. Now this piece of trash, one already that has been raised to fear cops and is deep into the criminal element is not going to do this, they are going to lie like a rug and tell the cops that someone took Haleigh and this kids, is what I think went down. Now how she got her body out of the house is a mystery even to me. Possibly had help from her BFF, Nay, or like someone said, her parent's van, or possibly had help by Ron??? Now it is all fine and good he was at work the whole shift, but I am betting she called him right before he was due to get off shift and told him that Haleigh was not moving or whatnot and they both concocted the story that she was abducted and this is why I think they married. As ignorant as they both are, I think they have this misguided notion that they can't testify against each other, but the crime occurred BEFORE so that will not be valid in a court of law, but hey, we are talking about complete ignorant white trash who also delves into the criminal element.

Speaking of the criminal element. On Friday, I forgot to post this yesterday, I went to court with Nyanna for that dirtbag that threw her out of his car and what a scum low life. You could tell right off he was a druggie, he looked like he slept in his clothes, he was wearing filthy shorts, a grimy T-shirt and flip flops and he had filthy feet and his equally disgusting white girlfriend was with him, she must weigh at least 400 lbs, slovenly, she had track marks on her arms she wasn't hiding, a filthy dress and flip flops and also had dirty feet and skanky hair she was trying to pass of as "dreads" My stomach churned thinking my baby was with these scumbags and I glared at both of them and they looked away. The deputy at the metal detector let me bring her in as "evidence" but he had to be the one to bring her in and he petted her and she was purring away!! Now the judge is on the bench and the deputy calls the case and low life approaches the bench with a public offender who right off objected to Nyanna being there, and tough he was told by the judge. The baliff brings Nyanna up to the judge and he starts petting her and she was purring so loud you could hear her, it is like she KNEW why she was there!

He looks at dirtbag and asks why did he throw her out a window on a busy highway? His response? "I dunno" The judge, not hiding his disgust, tells him he is a sorry excuse for a human being and that he lives TWO BLOCKS from the Humane Society and he could have brought her there and moron tells him that you have to pay cash money to bring an animal there and the guy from Animal Control speaks up and tells this loser that if one is indigent, that they will waive the $45 and would take the animal anyway??? Now he was charged with 1st degree animal cruelty and lying to a police officer as he tried to deny to the deputy that went to his house that he was DeShawn Hawkins and the cop KNOWS who he is and he arrested him, meanwhile, girlfriend is also lying for him, telling the cop that DeShawn was home sleeping when this occurred and this backfired on them when the camera at the gas station picks up him in his van and his face is visible and she too is charged with lying and her case was next!!!

He received a 30 day jail sentence, 100 hours of community service and a $2,000 fine and he had to give up his dog as he is barred from owning animals and he still whines away, trying to run the spin that the cat was a stray and that she had bit him so he did not like her and I am here to tell you, that this little angel would not bite anyone unless she felt threatened and I am betting she did, but neighbors had already told the deputy that Nyanna was one of a litter their cat had and girlfriend wanted it and he didn't. As he is led away, girlfriend turns on me and starts screaming at me, calling me names and then starts wailing as they put the cuffs on him and I called him a low life dirtbag and I was glad that his dog was taken away because he does not deserve to have an animal. And everyone in the court when the judge was petting Nynna, people in the room were oohing and ahhing and everyone was looking at this POS with absolute hate and disgust.

Outside the courtroom, the deputy gave her to me and people were coming up and petting her and she was loving every minute of it!! And two ton Tubby does not endear herself to the judge! She pleads not guilty and it is bound over for trial as it is a class C felony and of course she has a record too and I find this out from a guy who I ran into the parking lot who stuck around to hear her case and he told me that these people lived next door to him at one time and they are completely useless scum who had their kids taken away too because the baby got into some heroin, can you imagine that my beautiful little baby had been in their home??? Again, why do people like this get to live and procreate??? God needs to step in and when he sees scum like this and the Scumming's clan and all their friends do drugs and have police records, that he renders them barren??? That they can't have kids they can't care for?? Or do not let them have animals??

[lorettalockhorn]

I think in some states, or counties @ least, while it might not be a crime to leave the children alone, CPS can certainly remove them from the home. And, I have seen a couple of cases where the mom did land in jail, when it was shown the child(ren) was in harms way. One being a little boy found on a heavy-traffic road, and the "mom" asleep in the apt. Am not sure about the laws in FL, but, by gollies, it does seem that Satsuma and Putnam county pretty much march to the beat of their own drummers, regardless of FL law in some instances.

I agree that it does not seem that the 911 call was rehearsed, but it could very well be that there were questions asked that they did not anticipate. They aren't rocket scientists, and maybe didn't think about the height, weight thing. Actually, if they HAD tho't that would be asked, I'm not sure they had a clue what she weighed etc.

There is no evidence of a break in according to LE. But, IIRC, Ron was talking about evidence of a breakin. Perhaps. in setting up the scene, he didn't do a very good job making it look like someone pried the door (probably didn't want to have to repair anything) since LE didn't see what he saw.

Obviously Haleigh was in danger or she wouldn't be missing! But you're exactly right, there is no telling what FL law is or what Putnam County's interpretation of it is. Won't be one bit surprised though if and when this all shakes out, if there are other charges brought other than what is directly related to Haleigh's disappearance.

The 911 operator was asking pertinent questions not only to relay the information to the officers, but to occupy Ron and Misty, and for them, especially Ron, to not know how much she weighs considering she has frequent medical exams is ridiculous IMO. He's so spoiled and was so busy having his tantrum, he just couldn't be bothered to be polite to the poor woman.

[lorettalockhorn]

They can't be forced to testify against each other about things that occurs during the marriage, or "pillow talk" during the marriage. But what happens and is said before marriage and after a divorce are another whole thing. @ least in the case I was watching in either CA or NV. The hit man and his wife were divorced by the time of the trial, and she was a witness, but they could not ask anything that occured during the marriage.

That's correct according to the legal link that was posted here at the time of the marriage. But it wouldn't surprise me at all if they assumed they would have marital privilege based on what they see on Days of Our Lives or something.

[lorettalockhorn]

Wind, I'm so happy you and Nyanna have each other and they took that ftard's dog away from him! Love that the judge pointed out the cretin's proximity to the Humane Society, I love logic in the courtroom.

http://i31.tinypic.com/fc08x4.jpg

[wind149]

I too thought that was poetic justice when the judge brought up the Humane Society too!! When my sister told him about seeing Nyanna go flying through the air, she was horrified and she landed hard, but she scooped her up and ran for her car to check her out and the other guy caught the whole plate # and told her what it was and a deputy was dispatched to check on her and get statements and she luckily was not injured and that is a miracle considering how tiny she is and I would say she has about 7 lives left!!! And to see these scumbags in court, let's just say I was glad there were cops in the room, otherwise I might not have been able to contain myself from walking over to him and b!tch slapping him right across the face!!! Because the minute I laid eyes on him and girlfriend, I saw them for what they are, low life drug addicted scumbags and to think they actually had kids horrified me and it came as no surprise to learn that their little baby almost died from ingesting heroin and I think I actually remembered reading about this in the paper! Thank God they can't have anymore kids!!

And the place they live in is a hot bed for drugs and crime, one of those low life dwellings otherwise known as the projects where all the welfare queens shack up with many guys, the druggies and the drunks, and the cops go there all the time. The Scummings and Croslin clan would fit in just fine!! I even hate to get on the bus if I know we are going there to pick somebody up and there are a few we do. One woman usually stinks so bad, she smells the bus up and she weighs about 400 lbs, in a wheelchair and she goes to the party store to buy booze for her lovely live in as he is too lazy to do it according to her. I was talking to a driver one day about my Lap Band surgery and this loser looks at me all snotty and says, "must be nice to be able to afford it, I can't" I turned to her and told her if her old man would knock off the booze, you might be able to! She will buzz into the store and buy about 5 cases of beer and several bottles and expects the driver to carry it all for her and they don't really have to do that and one driver Doug who hates her, refuses to do it and she pisses and moans to dispatch and it is lost on them because the law states that everyone has to be responsible for their packages.

And I used to remember her from another place, when I worked at Damon's. They would come in and expect us to be her slaves, she would order potato skins loaded with sour cream, rum and cokes, ribs and steak combos and extra butter and sour cream on their potatoes and then chocolate cake with whipped cream and rum sauce!! Can you imagine the caloric count?? And she also has an oxygen tank, but yet, smokes too?? I was just praying she would not drop dead on my shift!! She expected a waitress one day to help her get out of her wheelchair to use the toilet and she is so big that she can't even go into the handicapped stall with her chair and the manager told her that by liability laws, we could not do that and she told boyfriend he would have to help her and he says he can't, he has a bad back??? We all figure he lives off her and does nothing to help her, but who cares??? She got herself to where she is at and if she did her homework, she could have the surgery, Medicare paid for mine. Another pile of losers on the dung heap of humanity!!

[beemer]

Wind i am so happy Nyanna got her day in court. I really like that judge :beer:
Good stuff and now she has a wonderful owner :rose: I think God did step in Wind with Nyanna :rose:

[Woostock]

Wind
Nyanna got a good home. In time she will forget what happened in the past. I have a theory that those who are cruel to animals are cruel period and need to have a penalty. It's a very hot subject at school as well, because some of our students were cruel to some animals and were caught. We have been working on that; if we don't address it the kids think it's OK because the parents could care less. They learn from their parents...you set a good example and should be proud of yourself for going to bat and not looking the other way.

[lorettalockhorn]

Oh my.

Formal complaint filed to Florida Department of Children and Families
(Request for investigation into DCF employees requested)

August 24, 2009

by Timothy Charles Holmseth

On August 20, 2009, a formal complaint and request for investigation was made to the Florida Department of Children and Families regarding the conduct of that department in regards to matters involving the HaLeigh Cummings disappearance and matters thereof.

The request was made by Timothy Charles Holmseth.

The request for an investigation was made after Holmseth received a telephone call from John Harrell, DCF. Harrell was responding to a communication Holmseth had made to a DCF employee named Annette Pitts.

Holmseth explained to Harrell he had information regarding several DCF employees who Florida Attorney Kim Picazio had been discussing via email with Karen Simmer, Illinois. In the emails (in the possession of Holmseth), Picazio is encouraging the Illinois housewife to take certain actions in effort to achieve custody of Ronald Cummings Jr. for her client, Crystal Sheffield. Picazio encourages Simmer, telling her that the pro-active approach they are taking is "working."

Simmer said Picazio told her HaLeigh Cummings was not in Satsuma and ventured to guess the missing child was alive and well and growing [emphasis added]. Simmer said Picazio also asked her to make false claims to DCF against Ronald Cummings in regards to his ability to parent his children. She said Picazio told her to claim she was from Florida, knew Cummings personally, and was aware of his terrible drug use.

Holmseth advised Harrell that he obtained all of Simmer's official telephone records and email correspondences. The documents Holmseth obtained demonstrated that Picazio clearly had an extensive relationship with the housewife from Illinois. Simmer's telephone records demonstrate the two people spent hours together on the phone. The emails between them do the same.

When Holmseth contacted Picazio about Simmer's claims, Picazio acted like she did not know who Simmer was. "Who the heck is Karen Simmer?" Picazio said.

Holmseth also advised Harrell that he listened to a Florida DCF worker casually discuss the open file of Ronald Cummings with Ft. Lauderdale Private Investigator William 'Cobra' Staubs. The state employee discussed the file right out of her home on several occasions.

Simmer told Holmseth Picazio claimed to have someone on the "inside" at DCF. The nature of this claim by Picazio is consistent with her claims on national TV, radio, and to reporters that she was part of the HaLeigh Cummings Investigative Task Force (despite the fact that she was the lawyer for Crystal Sheffield, biological mother of the missing child.)

Holmseth's report to DCF is extensive and can be viewed by clicking here. read all filings made

Harrell said the issues raised by Holmseth will be reviewed by DCF officials.

Holmseth is completing a detailed formal complaint against the Putnam County Sheriff's Department that will expose the misconduct rampant in the department, and provide very strong clues as to why the investigation into the disappearance and whereabouts of HaLeigh Cummings has gone absolutely nowhere.

The complaint will also provide information about what happened to HaLeigh Cummings.

The complaint is hoped to be completed and filed by week's end.

It will be filed to all offices in the upper echelons of the Florida government and to the FBI.

http://writeintoaction.com/

http://writeintoaction.com/08.24.09%20DCF.pdf

[wind149]

As you guys all know, I contacted CPS and spoke to a man who echoed my fears and while the conversation we had was off the record, I did not make a formal complaint such as a parent or relative would do, I voiced my fears for Jr and the very fact that Ron and his child bride IMO are not capable of caring for a child, never mind my fish tank. I expressed fear for his safety around Misty as I KNOW she killed Haleigh, I felt very strongly about this based on her statements to police and that Today Show interview and that she has been lying from day one and that I felt that I had to say something about this because I had worked in LE, had seen many abused kids that were abused by their parent's girlfriends or boyfriends or spouses and that in most cases, the children were removed from the home and this is what I want to see happen for Jr. Now I don't want to uproot him from Crystal, the poor kid has been through enough in these last 6 months. I say give her custody and have a social worker help her help him cope and that he should be in some kind of therapy, and it galls me to no end that his scum father is refusing to allow him to get counseling, kinda puts my red flag waving in from of me, is he afraid of what Jr might say to them??

This is my take and I do believe I am right on this. He is afraid that Jr might say things that he does not want anyone in authority to know, like maybe that Misty whupped him and Haleigh?? Or he saw people on drugs or saw Misty banging the black dude??? Oh yes, kids, he is scared to death that Jr might tell the truth about him and his beloved useless twit! As for this woman lawyer, I think she is a female version of Bozo. Going for the guts and glory and since this too, is a high profile case with the media right in the middle of it, she is getting some self satisfaction out of this, trying to be the crusader for a poor ignorant woman whose daughter has been missing for 6 months and it is not a stranger abduction and is going to milk it for all she can and I doubt she even wants to look at someone like Crystal, but she is liking the media coverage just like Bozo does. And as for Putnam CO? I agree with her on some level about them, I think they could have done a better job way back to 2/9 to find Haleigh, they did not search that dumpster for days, and never searched the landfill as far as I can determine and I think that is where Haleigh is and I base that on the dogs.

They spun their wheels till a week or so ago and then came out with what we all have known for months, that this was NOT a stranger abduction and now make references to the fact that Misty was not forthcoming about that night and her whereabouts and the time line and how long have we been suspicious of her?? DUH?? And I pray that they did not do as much as I think they should have because poor innocent Haleigh who did not ask to be born unto such trash was not a child of means??? Like Donald Trump's daughter is and can you see it if he had a young daughter come up missing? OMG!! Florida would comb every inch of that state with a shovel and a magnifying glass and 400 search dogs, helicopters with heat seeking cameras? Come into every home and business?? Haleigh apparently does not rate the same attention a child of his would and I still ponder this.

[deacon]

Oh my.

Formal complaint filed to Florida Department of Children and Families
(Request for investigation into DCF employees requested)

August 24, 2009

by Timothy Charles Holmseth

On August 20, 2009, a formal complaint and request for investigation was made to the Florida Department of Children and Families regarding the conduct of that department in regards to matters involving the HaLeigh Cummings disappearance and matters thereof.

The request was made by Timothy Charles Holmseth.

The request for an investigation was made after Holmseth received a telephone call from John Harrell, DCF. Harrell was responding to a communication Holmseth had made to a DCF employee named Annette Pitts.

Holmseth explained to Harrell he had information regarding several DCF employees who Florida Attorney Kim Picazio had been discussing via email with Karen Simmer, Illinois. In the emails (in the possession of Holmseth), Picazio is encouraging the Illinois housewife to take certain actions in effort to achieve custody of Ronald Cummings Jr. for her client, Crystal Sheffield. Picazio encourages Simmer, telling her that the pro-active approach they are taking is "working."

Simmer said Picazio told her HaLeigh Cummings was not in Satsuma and ventured to guess the missing child was alive and well and growing [emphasis added]. Simmer said Picazio also asked her to make false claims to DCF against Ronald Cummings in regards to his ability to parent his children. She said Picazio told her to claim she was from Florida, knew Cummings personally, and was aware of his terrible drug use.

Holmseth advised Harrell that he obtained all of Simmer's official telephone records and email correspondences. The documents Holmseth obtained demonstrated that Picazio clearly had an extensive relationship with the housewife from Illinois. Simmer's telephone records demonstrate the two people spent hours together on the phone. The emails between them do the same.

When Holmseth contacted Picazio about Simmer's claims, Picazio acted like she did not know who Simmer was. "Who the heck is Karen Simmer?" Picazio said.

Holmseth also advised Harrell that he listened to a Florida DCF worker casually discuss the open file of Ronald Cummings with Ft. Lauderdale Private Investigator William 'Cobra' Staubs. The state employee discussed the file right out of her home on several occasions.

Simmer told Holmseth Picazio claimed to have someone on the "inside" at DCF. The nature of this claim by Picazio is consistent with her claims on national TV, radio, and to reporters that she was part of the HaLeigh Cummings Investigative Task Force (despite the fact that she was the lawyer for Crystal Sheffield, biological mother of the missing child.)

Holmseth's report to DCF is extensive and can be viewed by clicking here. read all filings made

Harrell said the issues raised by Holmseth will be reviewed by DCF officials.

Holmseth is completing a detailed formal complaint against the Putnam County Sheriff's Department that will expose the misconduct rampant in the department, and provide very strong clues as to why the investigation into the disappearance and whereabouts of HaLeigh Cummings has gone absolutely nowhere.

The complaint will also provide information about what happened to HaLeigh Cummings.

The complaint is hoped to be completed and filed by week's end.

It will be filed to all offices in the upper echelons of the Florida government and to the FBI.

http://writeintoaction.com/

http://writeintoaction.com/08.24.09%20DCF.pdf

Hmmmmm intersting.

[SaraSidle]

Hmmmmm intersting.

Very interesting. thanks Loretta.

[deacon]

Very interesting. thanks Loretta.

The thot plickens...... I mean the plot thickens.

[wind149]

I don't start classes till Mon, but I went to orientation tonight and was totally impressed because we got to meet people from all aspects from the new president to more student and financial advisers and many instructors and everyone is more than happy to help you with whatever you need!! And I just cracked up, everyone had to take the Compass entrance exam and I was pleasant pleased to know I was not the only one to wing those algebra and trig questions, and pretty much everyone I met tonight are ALL taking the math classes as most did not take them like I did or some dropped out and never even took any math classes at all except for elementary school math. I can't avoid it this time, I will need to take this class at some point and my adviser told me to take it this semester and get it over with and I agreed!!! And I will need it for the degree as a whole.

Everyone welcomed us with open arms, they had a buffet set up, pizza, salad, cheese and crackers, fruits and cookies and cakes and beverages and we all pigged out and then listened to all these good folks inform us about how to use the computer and the databases for the college, we get free tutoring and free labs, we get a school debit card that we can use at the school to buy supplies or items from the book store and they gave us T-shirts and a water bottle, a small case with pens and pencils and a ruler and free book covers and I was like WOW! I had to buy everything when I went the first time even a pencil!! They made us do this silly thing where they had things written on a paper like "who owns a blue car or who has a cat, who likes NASCAR and things like that and there was about 50 people there and we had to ask folks if they liked these things or owned them and we wrote their names on the square and for the most names which means we were working the room, we won prizes and I got a really nice sweat shirt and a mouse pad!!

I got 33 names!! And while this campus is not huge like the one in Grand Rapids, you really feel like you are going to Harvard, and pretty much it's people my age going back to school!! We have a instructor that can hook us up with internships and this school also links up with various companies, hospitals and LE agencies and when it is time to graduate and hit the job seek, the college will do it's best to hook you up with a potential employer and I like that because my last college was not about to do that, you were on your own there. They do not guarantee that you will get hired but they will help you with a resume and submit them for you at your request. I am so excited, I won't be able to sleep Sun night and my first is that math class!!

[lorettalockhorn]

The thot plickens...... I mean the plot thickens.

The thick plottens!

[lorettalockhorn]

Report: Misty Cummings 'Miserably Failed' Polygraph


PUTNAM COUNTY, FL -- First Coast News has learned that Misty Cummings has failed three recent tests related to the search for her missing five-year-old step-daughter.

The Putnam County Sheriff's Office has said as recently as two weeks ago that Misty's account of the night in February when the then-5-year-old girl disappeared is "sketchy," and that she "continues to hold important answers."

Today, First Coast News spoke with Tim Miller, from Texas Equusearch, a group that has already led a major search effort to find Haleigh.

Miller says Misty Cummings told him she wanted a chance to clear her name.

He said he set up an independent polygraph test for her. Miller says Cummings "failed it miserably."

Miller said she wanted to do something else, so he scheduled a hypnosis session and a voice analysis test.

Miller says Misty agreed to take the tests and that she said her attorney told her not to.

In a signed letter, Misty stated her attorney, Robert Fields, told her not to take the polygraph, but she wanted to anyway to clear her name.

CLICK HERE TO READ MISTY'S LETTER AND DOCUMENTATION http://download.gannett.edgesuite.net/wtlv/docs/mistycummingspretestrelease8_26_09.pdf

Miller says she "failed miserably" the voice analysis test and "did not cooperate" with the hypnosis session.

CLICK HERE TO READ ABOUT THE POLYGRAPH, INCLUDING THE QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/topstories/news-article.aspx?storyid=143962&catid=3

Misty's attorney, Robert Fields, told First Coast News that Cummings told him Miller pressured her into taking the tests.

Miller said she wanted to take the tests.

Fields also said he did not know about the tests until Tuesday when Cummings told her she had taken them.

Fields said he may have considered advising Cummings to take a polygraph test through the sheriff's office, but not with independent investigators through Miller.

Miller provided the information about the tests to the Putnam County Sheriff's Office, after he said Cummings already told other people she'd taken the tests.

Sheriff's investigators have interviewed Misty many times, and continue to say her story is full of "inconsistencies."

The Putnam County Sheriff's Office said Miller met with investigators Tuesday about the tests.

Major Gary Bowling with the Putnam County Sheriff's Office said the information solidifies what investigators already knew.

Ronald Cummings, Haleigh's father, spoke with First Coast News via phone only long enough to say he didn't have anything to say.

Haleigh's sixth birthday was earlier this month.

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/local/news-article.aspx?storyid=143952&catid=3

[lorettalockhorn]

Misty Cummings' Polygraph Questions

JACKSONVILLE, FL -- First Coast News has learned what questions were asked of Misty Cummings in her recent polygraph test, and how she replied. The results indicated she failed the test.

Speaking with First Coast News by phone Wednesday afternoon, Tim Miller with Texas Equusearch told us the details of the polygraph interview.

Here are the four questions Miller says were asked to Misty on August 19, followed by her answer and the polygraph result:

Question: Did you intentionally withhold any information regarding Haleigh's disappearance?
Answer: No
Result: 99% deception

Question: Do you know what happened to Haleigh?
Answer: No
Result: 99% deception

Question: Do you know where Haleigh is now?
Answer: No
Result: 95% Deception

Question: Do you know who took Haleigh?
Answer: No
Result: 42% deception

Miller says he was confused by the 42% result, but a polygraph expert who spoke with Miller says that could mean there were multiple people involved, and that something may have happened inside the house that prevented Misty from knowing which person took her away.

Miller goes on to say Misty cried at the results, then stormed out of the room. That's when he says he spoke with Misty, who begged him to let her undergo hypnosis and voice analysis.

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/topstories/news-article.aspx?storyid=143962&catid=3

[lorettalockhorn]

>>and "did not cooperate" with the hypnosis session.

Does that mean she refused to be hynotized? Or wouldn't answer questions under hypnosis? Is that even possible?

At any rate, not cooperating with hypnosis sounds a lot like not cooperating with a recreation of the events. And I've read that some states stipulate that witness who have undergone hypnosis can be called on to testify in court. (Don't know if that includes Florida.) IMO a forensic psychiatrist might be a better interviewer than a hypnotist.

[lorettalockhorn]

« Blogging From Orlando This Week.POLICE: MISTY CUMMINGS HOLDS THE KEY TO HALEIGH CUMMINGS DISSAPEARANCE
By Steph
For the past three (3) days I have been deep inside the Haleigh Cummings investigation, talking intimately with family members including Haleigh’s father Ronald Cummings, and most importantly Misty Cummings, the last person to see little Haleigh Cummings alive.

It’s been over six (6) months since anyone has seen five (5) year old Haleigh Cummings, who disappeared from her home in Satsuma Florida, sometime in the evening of February 9th 2009. Now the last person to see her alive, is going to extreme measures to clear her name. Or is she?

Seventeen, (17) year old Misty Cummings, who married Ronald Cummings shortly after little Haleigh disappeared, has subjected herself to intense questioning, over the last few days regarding the disappearance of little Haleigh Cummings in hopes of clearing her name. Against the advice of her Attorney Robert Fields, she requested to take another polygraph, to be hypnotized and submitted herself to voice analysis.

Two (2) weeks ago, the family of Haleigh Cummings reached out to Tim Miller from Texas Equusearch (TES). Independent from law enforcement, Miller arranged for three (3) separate experts to arrive into Florida to conduct the test, the costs paid for by Texas Equusearch. Because of my involement with this story as a journalist, Miller asked me to film the interviews. The experts included John Gastar, a former NYPD Detective with 35 years experience in hypnosis, TJ Ward, a voice analysis expert, most notable for his work on the Natalee Holloway case, and D. Craig Harper an independent polygraph expert. This seemed outside the realm of the kind of work TES traditionally does. When I asked Miller this, he responded “we will go to any lengths at any costs to find this missing child”

During the intense questioning, which lasted 2 days, Misty broke down in tears as she recounted sexual abuse at the hands of family members and attempts to point fingers at people who she thinks may have taken Haleigh in an attempt to defer attention from herself. Police have asked me not to mention “who” as its part of the ongoing investigation. Tearfully, Misty reflects “My life has not been very good and it looks like its not going to get any better.”

Misty’s shocking statements, all caught on tape, have refueled the investigation into little Haleigh Cummings. Detectives from the Putnam County Sheriff’s Department were made aware of the findings, and although they are not endorsing the release of the information to the public, they were planning on subpoenaing the tapes and any related information. Miller willingly turned the finding over to investigators. Just yesterday, detectives questioned Miller and myself for over five (5) hours concerning our observations and viewed the tapes in our presence as we answered questions about our conversations with Misty Cummings.

The relationship with police and the Cummings family is contentious, to say the least. Tim Miller has developed a very close relationship to Ronald and Misty, and it is Millers intimate relationship with Misty that police have relied on for information “She looks at me like a grandfather”, Tim states.

The results of the taped interviews according to the experts who conducted them and the police who reviewed them are great for the investigation but not great for Misty. She “miserably failed” the polygraph test. This is the fourth time she has failed a polygraph. During the hypnosis, she appeared uncooperative and told yet another version of the story that was inconsistent with previous versions. The voice analysis was perhaps the most revealing and according to results “It appears Misty Cummings knows what happened and was directly involved in the disappearance of Haleigh Cummings”. Upon their initial viewing of these tapes, investigators uncovered several inconsistencies in Misty’s story. They are particularly interested in her version of the timeline the night of February 9th between 8:00pm and 3:00am. She claims she put Haleigh down at 8:00pm and went to sleep herself at 10:00 and awoke abruptly at 3:00 to find Haleigh gone. Now even her husband Ronald isn’t buying that story “she never went to bed that night” he said “the bed was made” Police confirmed Ronald’s story. As the investigation closes in on her and investigators focus on those few hours the evening of Feb.9th into early morning Feb.10th that Misty can’t account for. One thing is clear; the only thing that’s consistent about Misty Cummings story is her inconsistencies.

It’s clear from spending time with them, that the Putnam County Sheriffs’ Department is passionate about solving the Haleigh Cummings case. They have worked tirelessly following up on leads, they have a room full of evidence, and continue to search areas of interest. Without divulging specifics about their investigation, Captain Dominic Piscitello is very clear about one thing “Misty Cummings holds the key to what happened to Haleigh Cummings that night."

http://stephww.wordpress.com/2009/08/26/police-misty-cummings-holds-the-key-to-haleigh-cummings-dissapearance/

[lorettalockhorn]

Thanks to Ms. Errin Spelling for these links! :seeya: :beer:

[SaraSidle]

Thanks to Ms. Errin Spelling for these links! :seeya: :beer:

Thank you Errin. We miss you!!!!

[Amy]

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/l...143952&catid=3

Misty's attorney, Robert Fields, told First Coast News that Cummings told him Miller pressured her into taking the tests.

Now, I don't know if it is Misti Cummings or her attorney Robert Fields (or maybe both) who thinks we all just fell off the turnip trucks. We are to believe that Misti, who has not seemed to have fallen to any pressure from LE and the FBI and whatever other agencies have questioned her over the last 6 months, suddenly caves into pressure from mild mannered, gentlemanly Tim Miller?

OTOH, perhaps a mild mannered, gentlemanly tactic was not utilized by any of the agents?

[beemer]

Wind i am so excited for you!!!! It's going to be a wonderful experience!!! Keep us posted. Now on topic LOL I am glad to see things are looking bad for Misty. Maybe all this pressure will make her cave with whatever it is she knows.

[deacon]

Misty Cummings' Polygraph Questions

JACKSONVILLE, FL -- First Coast News has learned what questions were asked of Misty Cummings in her recent polygraph test, and how she replied. The results indicated she failed the test.

Speaking with First Coast News by phone Wednesday afternoon, Tim Miller with Texas Equusearch told us the details of the polygraph interview.

Here are the four questions Miller says were asked to Misty on August 19, followed by her answer and the polygraph result:

Question: Did you intentionally withhold any information regarding Haleigh's disappearance?
Answer: No
Result: 99% deception

Question: Do you know what happened to Haleigh?
Answer: No
Result: 99% deception

Question: Do you know where Haleigh is now?
Answer: No
Result: 95% Deception

Question: Do you know who took Haleigh?
Answer: No
Result: 42% deception

Miller says he was confused by the 42% result, but a polygraph expert who spoke with Miller says that could mean there were multiple people involved, and that something may have happened inside the house that prevented Misty from knowing which person took her away.

Miller goes on to say Misty cried at the results, then stormed out of the room. That's when he says he spoke with Misty, who begged him to let her undergo hypnosis and voice analysis.

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/topstories/news-article.aspx?storyid=143962&catid=3

If those are the only questions he asked as indicate by the article he did not do the test properly. There are no "control questions" to set a control line to measure the reactions to. He must have a control line to show the stress one normally goes through when answering a question that has no guilt or innocense attached.

[lorettalockhorn]

I don't start classes till Mon, but I went to orientation tonight and was totally impressed because we got to meet people from all aspects from the new president to more student and financial advisers and many instructors and everyone is more than happy to help you with whatever you need!! And I just cracked up, everyone had to take the Compass entrance exam and I was pleasant pleased to know I was not the only one to wing those algebra and trig questions, and pretty much everyone I met tonight are ALL taking the math classes as most did not take them like I did or some dropped out and never even took any math classes at all except for elementary school math. I can't avoid it this time, I will need to take this class at some point and my adviser told me to take it this semester and get it over with and I agreed!!! And I will need it for the degree as a whole.

Everyone welcomed us with open arms, they had a buffet set up, pizza, salad, cheese and crackers, fruits and cookies and cakes and beverages and we all pigged out and then listened to all these good folks inform us about how to use the computer and the databases for the college, we get free tutoring and free labs, we get a school debit card that we can use at the school to buy supplies or items from the book store and they gave us T-shirts and a water bottle, a small case with pens and pencils and a ruler and free book covers and I was like WOW! I had to buy everything when I went the first time even a pencil!! They made us do this silly thing where they had things written on a paper like "who owns a blue car or who has a cat, who likes NASCAR and things like that and there was about 50 people there and we had to ask folks if they liked these things or owned them and we wrote their names on the square and for the most names which means we were working the room, we won prizes and I got a really nice sweat shirt and a mouse pad!!

I got 33 names!! And while this campus is not huge like the one in Grand Rapids, you really feel like you are going to Harvard, and pretty much it's people my age going back to school!! We have a instructor that can hook us up with internships and this school also links up with various companies, hospitals and LE agencies and when it is time to graduate and hit the job seek, the college will do it's best to hook you up with a potential employer and I like that because my last college was not about to do that, you were on your own there. They do not guarantee that you will get hired but they will help you with a resume and submit them for you at your request. I am so excited, I won't be able to sleep Sun night and my first is that math class!!

Wind so glad you enjoyed your orientation, those icebreakers can be pretty corny, but they're very effective! Congrats on your prizes (and free grub. NEVER turn down a free meal!). Do take advantage of all the internships you can fit into your schedule; what you miss in pay will be returned many times over in connections, and if they have a placement office have them help you create your resume.

[lorettalockhorn]

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/l...143952&catid=3



Now, I don't know if it is Misti Cummings or her attorney Robert Fields (or maybe both) who thinks we all just fell off the turnip trucks. We are to believe that Misti, who has not seemed to have fallen to any pressure from LE and the FBI and whatever other agencies have questioned her over the last 6 months, suddenly caves into pressure from mild mannered, gentlemanly Tim Miller?

OTOH, perhaps a mild mannered, gentlemanly tactic was not utilized by any of the agents?

Yeah, Misty has stated that LE was mean to her. :rolleyes: And now her attorney is carping because she was coerced. What? We're supposed to believe that TM falsely imprisoned Misty and wouldn't allow her to call her him? Sheesh

Do y'all really, really wonder what Ron&Misty talk about?

[lorettalockhorn]

If those are the only questions he asked as indicate by the article he did not do the test properly. There are no "control questions" to set a control line to measure the reactions to. He must have a control line to show the stress one normally goes through when answering a question that has no guilt or innocense attached.

For sure, but I seriously doubt if a "polygraph expert" didn't ask the minimum control questions, and I would imagine that this is just a snippet intended to show where the deceit lies. I'm sure we haven't heard the end of it all!

I just hope and pray that when the civil judge has Ron in court to hear the motion for Junior to receive counseling, he will take into consideration that Junior is living in a very tense household/snake pit, likely surrounded by lies and a father and step-mother that must by now be at odds.

[lorettalockhorn]

Searcher: Haleigh's stepmom didn't pass polygraph

The 17-year-old babysitter who last saw missing child Haleigh Cummings recently failed her fourth lie detector test, a person close to the case says.

Misty Croslin-Cummings, who is now married to Haleigh's father, Ronald Cummings, requested to take the test independent of law enforcement and without the consent of her attorney.

Haleigh's family contacted Tim Miller, the founder of Texas Equusearch, to help arrange for three experts to conduct several tests. Croslin-Cummings was questioned about her activities on the night the girl disappeared.

"She failed miserably," Miller said.

Robert Fields, Croslin-Cummings' attorney, said he should have been contacted before Croslin underwent the tests.

"Everyone knew that she has an attorney, and I do have a big question about why they pursued it, knowing she had an attorney," Fields said Wednesday.

Croslin-Cummings signed a document she created stating she was voluntarily performing a polygraph test against the advice of her lawyer, Miller said.

However, Fields was told Croslin-Cummings felt she was pressured to do the test so searches for Haleigh by Equusearch would continue.

Miller said that is the opposite of what occurred.

"Absolutely not," Miller said. "They said it needed to be approved with the attorney, but she wrote a note and signed it to give herself permission."

Miller added that Croslin-Cummings knew she was undergoing tests against her attorney's advice, and wanted to do it anyway to clear her name.

"It's no excuse to pursue the course of action he did," Fields said. "It is my understanding that she was pressured, and she did not want to do it."

A voice stress analysis and a test involving a hypnotist were conducted in addition to the polygraph test.

Croslin failed all three, Miller said.

The recent tests, however, may have given investigators more information to follow up.

"There are certainly some statements that were made that were not made in previous interrogations with law enforcement," Miller said.

The tests were passed to the Putnam County Sheriff's Office and reviewed by investigators Tuesday.

Officers have said repeatedly that Croslin-Cummings is the crucial link to solving the child's disappearance, and that she "continues to hold important answers."

"It is what it is, exactly what we've already known," Capt. Dominic Piscitello said. "We still say she is the key to getting to the bottom of what happened to Haleigh."

Croslin-Cummings and Ronald Cummings have previously claimed that they each passed lie detector tests.

This is the fourth polygraph test Croslin has failed, Miller said.

Inconsistencies in Croslin-Cummings' stories have been cited by investigators on numerous occasions.

Miller said he will no longer involve himself in legalities.

"This certainly put me in an awkward position and it isn't a position I wanted to be put in," Miller said. "I need to focus on the searches."

The search for the missing 6-year-old will resume within six weeks through EquuSearch and the aid of law enforcement.

Miller said this is not an opportune time to conduct a search due to weather conditions and heavy underbrush, but another canvass will be made at the request of the family.

"Anything that is going to happen from now on is going to be extremely more difficult," he said.

An Amber Alert for the missing 6-year-old was issued Feb. 10 after she was reported missing by Croslin at 3:27 a.m.

A massive search ensued, involving helicopters, boats, canines and horseback units. No sign of the child was found.

The Putnam County Sheriff's Office has followed more than 4,000 leads, with no person of interest in the case located.

Efforts to reach Croslin-Cummings for comment were unsuccessful Wednesday.

Croslin-Cummings has previously said she put Haleigh to bed about 8 p.m. on Feb. 9 and went to sleep herself two hours later. Croslin-Cummings said the child was gone when she awoke the next day at 3 a.m.

Ronald Cummings was working the night shift at a local industrial firm.

Both he and Haleigh's mother, Crystal Sheffield, are not considered suspects, authorities said.

http://www.palatkadailynews.com/articles/2009/08/27/news/news01.txt

[lorettalockhorn]

Haleigh Update: TES: Stepmom Misty Failed 4th Polygraph

What did happen the February night leading up to the abduction of 6-year-old Haleigh Cummings from her father's home in Satsuma, Florida? Police say the last person to see her holds the key to the answer.

Haleigh's then-babysitter-now-stepmother Misty Croslin-Cummings recently asked for a polygraph to clear her name after the Putnam County Sheriff's Office asked members of the public to come forward with information on Misty's whereabouts the night of the abduction. Acording to the director of the group who arranged the test, Misty failed the polygraph "miserably."

17-year-old Misty Cummings, who married Ronald Cummings a few weeks after little Haleigh disappeared, reportedly went gainst the advice of her Attorney Robert Fields when she requested to take another polygraph, to be hypnotized and submitted herself to voice analysis regarding the events leading up to Haleigh's disappearance.

Two weeks ago, the family of Haleigh Cummings contacted Tim Miller from Texas Equusearch (TES). A report which appears on the TES website said that independent from law enforcement, Miller arranged for three (3) separate experts to arrive into Florida to conduct the test, the costs paid for by Texas Equusearch. The experts included John Gastar, a former NYPD Detective with 35 years experience in hypnosis, TJ Ward, a voice analysis expert, most notable for his work on the Natalee Holloway case, and D. Craig Harper an independent polygraph expert.

This seemed outside the realm of the kind of work TES traditionally does. The report on Miller's website quoted him saying, "we will go to any lengths at any costs to find this missing child."

If what has been reported during the 2 days of intense questioning is true, Misty broke down in tears as she recounted sexual abuse at the hands of family members and attempts to point fingers at people who she thinks may have taken Haleigh in an attempt to defer attention from herself.

97.3 The Sky has learned that detectives from the Putnam County Sheriff’s Department were made aware of the findings, and although they are not endorsing the release of the information to the public, they were planning on subpoenaing the tapes and any related information. Miller willingly turned the finding over to investigators.

The results of the taped interviews according to the experts who conducted them and the police who reviewed them are great for the investigation but not great for Misty. She "miserably failed" the polygraph test.

This is the fourth time she has failed a polygraph.

The report appearing on the Texas EquuSearch website claims that during the hypnosis, Misty appeared uncooperative and told yet another version of the story that was inconsistent with previous versions.

The voice analysis was perhaps the most revealing and according to results on the site, "It appears Misty Cummings knows what happened and was directly involved in the disappearance of Haleigh Cummings."

Upon their initial viewing of these tapes, investigators uncovered several inconsistencies in Misty’s story. They are particularly interested in her version of the timeline the night of February 9, 2009 between 8:00pm and 3:00am. She claims she put Haleigh down at 8:00pm and went to sleep herself at 10:00 and awoke abruptly at 3:00 to find Haleigh gone.The report on the TES website claims Ronald said "the bed was made" and that police confirmed Ronald’s story.

http://www.thesky973.com/pages/5093710.php

[lorettalockhorn]

...If what has been reported during the 2 days of intense questioning is true, Misty broke down in tears as she recounted sexual abuse at the hands of family members and attempts to point fingers at people who she thinks may have taken Haleigh in an attempt to defer attention from herself...

...The report on the TES website claims Ronald said “the bed was made” and that police confirmed Ronald’s story.

http://www.bloggernews.net/122030

[lorettalockhorn]

The TES website at http://texasequusearch.org/ is linking to the blog posted last night:

http://stephww.wordpress.com/2009/08/26/police-misty-cummings-holds-the-key-to-haleigh-cummings-dissapearance/

[SaraSidle]

The TES website at http://texasequusearch.org/ is linking to the blog posted last night:

http://stephww.wordpress.com/2009/08/26/police-misty-cummings-holds-the-key-to-haleigh-cummings-dissapearance/

I think something is going to happen soon. Lot of pressure on MC with 4 failed tests. IMO sara

[lorettalockhorn]

Posted: Thursday, 27 August 2009 1:47PM

PCSO Reacts to TES Claims That Haleigh's Stepmom Failed Polygraph

TJ Hart


The Putnam County Sheriff's Office has confirmed to 97.3 The Sky they have received the polygraph test results from Texas EquuSearch indicating the last person to see missing 6-year-old Haleigh Cummings of Satsuma, Florida failed the test miserably.

Captain Dominic Piscitello spoke with The Sky Thursday to say the sheriff's office does have in its posession the results of the polygraph test Haleigh's then-babysitter-now-stepmother Misty Croslin-Cummings requested take despite the objection of her lawyer.

Piscitello says the results of the polygraph offer nothing suprising other than a couple more inconsistent stories concerning the timeline the night Haleigh was abducted from her father's home and in Misty's care on February 9, 2009.

AUDIO: Unedited Interveiw with Capt. Piscitello

http://www.thesky973.com/pages/5094905.php

[lorettalockhorn]

I think something is going to happen soon. Lot of pressure on MC with 4 failed tests. IMO sara

Yep. Unless it was cancelled, Ron and Crystal in court now for the hearing on the motion for Junior to receive counseling. Maybe the judge will exercise some common sense today.

[SaraSidle]

Yep. Unless it was cancelled, Ron and Crystal in court now for the hearing on the motion for Junior to receive counseling. Maybe the judge will exercise some common sense today.

Yes maybe Jr will be placed somewhere safe. IMO

[BeastofBears]

Yes maybe Jr will be placed somewhere safe. IMO

Are there any safe options under consideration?

[lorettalockhorn]

Haleigh's Grandmother Not Surprised Misty Cummings Failed Tests

PUTNAM COUNTY, FL -- Leads have slowed to a trickle in the search for Haleigh Cummings, but law enforcement, and some of Haleigh's family, believe the answer lies with someone close to the case.

Haleigh's maternal grandmother, Marie Griffis, spoke with First Coast News Thursday about yesterday's revelation that Misty Cummings, the wife of Haleigh's father Ronald, had recently failed a series of tests she wanted to take to clear her name.

First Coast News broke the story about the failed tests Wednesday afternoon.

REPORT: MISTY CROSLIN MISERABLY FAILED POLYGRAPH

Griffis says that only confirms what she already thought, that Misty knows more than she's letting on about what happened the night Haleigh disappeared from Ronald Cummings' home in Satsuma.

Griffis also said she thinks Ronald Cummings should be tested, as she believes he also knows more than he's saying.

The Putnam County Sheriff's Office does not agree with what Griffis says about Ronald Cummings, but they do feel that Misty knows more than she's saying.

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/local/news-article.aspx?storyid=144010&catid=3

[lorettalockhorn]

“She’s got knowledge about who took the baby”
August 27th, 2009
http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/local/news-article.aspx?storyid=144006&catid=3

From the above article:

Today, T.J. Ward, a voice analysis expert who performed one of the tests on Misty, said, quite directly, “She’s got knowledge about who took the baby.”



Is she still living with Ron, Annette and Teresa? Are they still protecting and defending her?



Inquiring minds want to know.

http://justiceforhaleigh.afterhoursfriends.com/

[lorettalockhorn]

Report: Croslin Failed Lie Detector Test
Investigators Review Results Of Test


JACKSONVILLE, Fla. -- Reports surfaced on Thursday that the last person seen with Haleigh Cummings failed some lie-detector tests.

Misty Croslin has since married Haliegh's father, Ronald Cummings.

Croslin claimed she awoke in the middle of the night to find the little girl was gone from their Putnam County home.

A TV station in Jacksonville reported that Croslin contacted Texas Equusearch, asking search crews to come back to Florida and continue the search. The group insisted that Croslin first clear her name and a series of lie-detector tests were set up.

The station quoted Equusearch as saying Croslin not only failed those lie-detector tests, but that she failed them miserably.

Putnam County investigators apparently subpoenaed the tests and are reviewing the results.

http://www.wesh.com/news/20578710/detail.html

[lorettalockhorn]

Are there any safe options under consideration?

No one has filed a motion for change of custody, so not sure if options have been considered. But wouldn't Junior be safer out of the clutches of his possible or probably lying stepmother and his father (and inlaws?) who seemingly supports her despite it all?

[lorettalockhorn]

The word at twitter is that Junior will receive weekly therapy and that GGMS is on a local TV station saying that the latest buzz is all a scam and supports Misty.

[lorettalockhorn]

Misty Cummings: 'They're Trying to Pinpoint Me'

PUTNAM COUNTY, FL -- The one person police believe holds the key in the case of Haleigh Cummings spoke to First Coast News this afternoon.

Misty Cummings, the wife of Haleigh's father Ronald, told First Coast News, "I feel like they're trying to pinpoint me because they cannot find the right person."

Police say her story is "sketchy," and she underwent a series of tests recently to clear her name, but reportedly failed them all.

Haleigh's maternal grandmother, Marie Griffis, also spoke with First Coast News Thursday about yesterday's revelation that Misty Cummings, the wife of Haleigh's father Ronald, had recently failed a series of tests she wanted to take to clear her name...

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/local/news-article.aspx?storyid=144010&catid=3

[lorettalockhorn]

BOMBSHELL tonight! Exclusive photo of MCC's polygraph and We. Have. It. Here.

http://i27.tinypic.com/v3hp8j.jpg

[lorettalockhorn]

...Misty Cummings told First Coast News she and her husband will have nothing more to do with Tim Miller or with Mark NeJame. He is the attorney who agreed to work with the Cummings last week in the search for Haleigh.

Misty Cummings said she feels they lied to her.

Miller said Misty Cummings wanted to take the tests and came to him asking for help to clear her name.

Miller said he will still do a ground search for Haleigh in Putnam County.

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/local/news-article.aspx?storyid=144010&catid=3

[SaraSidle]

...Misty Cummings told First Coast News she and her husband will have nothing more to do with Tim Miller or with Mark NeJame. He is the attorney who agreed to work with the Cummings last week in the search for Haleigh.

Misty Cummings said she feels they lied to her.

Miller said Misty Cummings wanted to take the tests and came to him asking for help to clear her name.

Miller said he will still do a ground search for Haleigh in Putnam County.

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/local/news-article.aspx?storyid=144010&catid=3



Awfully nice of MIller but I am not surprised. IMO

[SaraSidle]

Are there any safe options under consideration?

Not yet but relatives make me real nervous..........IMO

[lorettalockhorn]

Awfully nice of MIller but I am not surprised. IMO

Still watching NG and I think I heard Tim Miller say that Misty requested the voice stress test, and to be honest I was shocked that she would even know of such a thing.

Nancy is hot on Misty's trail!

[wind149]

HOLY CRAP! This useless twit is dumber than I gave her credit for!! SHE REQUESTS THAT TIM MILLER DO A POLYGRAPH AND VOICE STRESS TEST TO CLEAR HER NAME????? AND FAILS MISERABLY!! And then when she finds out that she flunked then she won't go under hypnosis??? God, this broad is such a loser and you know now she must have flunked the other ones administered by Putnam and while theirs might not be admissible, NG says that if one is requested by a person to clear themselves and it is given not by LE then it is admissible and boy she did just screw herself into a wall, or should I dare say, a cell?? And she is now claiming that Tim Miller told her that he would not search for Haleigh until she took the test and that is not what he is saying, he says she requested it and I believe him totally!! Now even if he had been the one to request it, because he wanted to see if she was lying about Haleigh and where she is, she could have told him no and boy, is she really really dumb, and Putnam is saying that they are not surprised that she failed not only the polygraph, but the voice stress test and I have seen one being administered before and it was clear that this subject was lying, when asked certain questions and this was a case of child abuse and rape, he got all defensive and angry and of course flunked and that is admissible in court!!

I think she watched too many movies and a actor is portraying a sociopath and beats the exam, I am betting she thought she could pull it off too?? I am willing to bet that she will be arrested very soon and I just heard, (SURPRISE) that Misty wants nothing to do with Tim now, and she might as well have just confessed to the crime, and she is pissed that he publicly announced to the world that she flunked and a light bulb just went off in my head. She wanted to use Tim to deflect attention off her so that is why she agreed to do the tests and one lady asked if her and Ron were together and they are and I have not looked at their site yet, but apparently they are talking to Coast News and dissing Tim and this shows just how low life she is and now I have changed my mind, she did kill Haleigh with malice, by her actions and words today, she just convinced me of that. If she killed her by accident like I have described, then she would have copped to it today by her answers, but 99% deception is spot on that she is lying and has been all along like I thought!! And there are reports that people HAVE come forward as asked by Putnam CO if anyone could discredit her stories and while Putnam has not officially confirmed this, I do believe that people have and one story is that there were 4 people in that house that night about the time of her crap time line when she claims she put the kids to bed at 8 and went to bed at 10 and even Ron could not look the other way on one thing. The bed was made, the one she first claims all of them were in, and who goes to bed, and then gets up at 3 before the old man is due to come home from work and make the bed? NO ONE!! He saw it made and so did the cops so maybe these good old boys have been doing their jobs and I am starting to think they were hoping that given enough rope, she would hang herself?

And as dumb as she is, she just did IMO??? I would not be surprised if she is arrested in the coming days and you know now, that Teresa must be very pissed at her and Crystal must be bugging out!! I know I would be!! No, all along this skank has been lying. She wanted Ron, but I am betting that since Haleigh was reported to have been Daddy's girl, that she was jealous of the attention he paid Haleigh, and it is all Haleigh, apparently Jr did not want as much attention from Daddy so he was not a threat to her as if he was, she would have did away with him too, and since, and boy, did she just prove that, she has the brain of a cabbage and about a third grade mentality level that Haleigh stood in her way of happiness with Ron and I just loathe him for thinking this POS was capable of taking good care of two babies and Haleigh had medical issues and possibly behavioral issues as well and she could not cope and maybe Haleigh was acting up that night and I also think despite her spin that Haleigh just dug her and she loved her, I doubt this was true, kids know when people really care or not and I am betting even if none of them have admitted this, that all was not well in the house of Scummings and she meant to drive her head into a coffee table and she dies.

Now the part that is still a mystery is how did she get rid of the body? Did she indeed put the body in the dumpster? She lived there long enough to know when they are emptied and she buries her deep in the bottom of it and the next day, the police are all tied up on searches, the company empties it and she ends up in the landfill??? Now this is arm chair on my part, but it is plausible. But one thing is clear tonight, we now KNOW that she did something with this child, if she didn't she would have passed both tests with flying colors, instead she fails both with flying colors and they both will be admissible and Putnam KNOWS THIS and they have the results on their hot little hands!! And I would imagine even as dumb as Ron is, he has to be thinking the same and in FL, husband and wife CAN testify against each other and he will turn on her, you watch.

[lorettalockhorn]

Mark Klaas is bashing on Tim Miller for exploitation, but for the life of me I'm not sure HTF this benefits him or TES.

Has anyone been able to listen to the audio of TJ Hart and LE? It shuts down my browser, but I've read that TJ bashes Tim too.

[wind149]

Check out First Coast News!! On their site is the permission letter that Misty signed to take the tests despite her lawyer did not want her to, and she initials on the document that she understands that she does not have to take the tests and she is not being forced to do so and writes, (if you want to call that hand-writing) a statement that she wants to take the tests to clear her name!! OH MY GOD, she is just as dumb as they come, a cabbage is too good for her, now I say she has the brain of a used box of Kleenex!! As I thought, she is pretty near illiterate and her writing looks like a third grader wrote it, my sister, the one that is challenged writes better than she does!! Now you can't tell me that Ron will stand behind her, if he does and Haleigh's body is recovered then that tells me he has known all along that his daughter is dead and that skank killed her and since we already know that he is not much of a man, a man does not willingly live with a very stupid girl and have her care for his babies and then after one of the kids goes missing and the last one to see her alive is this stupid girl, he marries her??

And according to Tim, when she is told she flunked the polygraph, she wants to then take the stress test and that tells me that she is grasping at straws, she is hoping at least one of these tests she will pass and when she flunks that one, she cries and tells him that she was sexually abused as a kid which I thought was an odd time to tell Tim and why? I wonder, did she share that bombshell with Putnam or are they hearing that for the first time today?? I just got one of those sinking feelings in my stomach and please tell me she did not do a "Huckabee" to Haleigh??? And then when all results were in and she is told she flunked, she cries and then storms out of the room!! Now she contacted the stress test examiner herself, he is based out of Atlanta, so me thinks she has been on a computer trying to find people that in her dumb, white trash mind that she thought she could manipulate as I have a feeling she knows the end is coming for her and was hoping she could find someone that would believe her as I think she knows Putnam doesn't and possibly granny and Teresa are doubting just like I predicted they would.

Seeds of doubt were planted when Putnam announced that they were 100% sure that this was not a stranger abduction?? Teresa is a police dispatcher but not at that dept and even if she does work in the next dept, that does not mean that she would be privy to anything of Putnam's, they probably do not even have the same in-house computer and we all had our own passwords and there was stuff on ours, I could not access with my password like payroll and private e-mails or the ranking officers stuff. So she has to know now that Misty is lying, she deals with liars every day as every dispatcher does?? I am thinking she did not want to think that Misty could have killed her grandchild and you can't fault her for that, it is her daughter in law after all?? But now, with the test results are revealed, she is probably in agony, wondering why that b!tch killed her grandchild and has been lying about it for 6 months?? Just seeing her skanky face on my TV makes me hurl! I am watching NG again, because I missed something a talking head said on there as I got a phone call about them and it is pretty profound.

[SaraSidle]

Mark Klaas is bashing on Tim Miller for exploitation, but for the life of me I'm not sure HTF this benefits him or TES.

Has anyone been able to listen to the audio of TJ Hart and LE? It shuts down my browser, but I've read that TJ bashes Tim too.

I heard that on NG tonight (Mark) and I was very confused. I thought they were all out for the same result.

[wind149]

Yeah what is up with Mark tonight?? Did I hear him right?? He is bashing Tim?? A man who has dedicated many hours and dollars trying to find missing people or tries to recover their bodies so their family's can give them a proper burial? Now of all people to not understand what Tim does, a man whose own daughter was kidnapped, raped and dumped in a field??? Sometimes he gets on my nerves, now I know he has his own foundation and does good works and Tim was contacted by this clan and agreed out of the kindness of his heart to come search for Haleigh and now on NG, it has been confirmed for sure that SHE requested the tests so I don't understand Mark's attitude tonight, as a father of a murdered child, he ought to know better than bash someone who is willing to go out and search in horrible conditions, like dangerous snakes and gators galore and I don't see him doing the same, he might get his shoes dirty! So he went down some points in my database of good people, he was downright nasty!! I think maybe, being a spokesman, it has gone to his head to appear on shows like NG's, now he thinks he is an expert on everything??? And NG gives it right back to him and I was you go girl!!!:no:

[lorettalockhorn]

Posted: Thursday, 27 August 2009 9:00PM

BREAKING NEWS: Exerpts of Misty's Voice Stress Test

TJ Hart

97.3 The Sky has obtained the following are excerpts from the voice analysis portion of the tests Misty submitted herself to through an agreement with Tim Miller of Texas EquuSearch. The following are verbatim statements made by the investigator and Misty taken at various times during the 20 minute interview:

Investigator: How do you know Haleigh?

Misty: I know her because she’s my husband’s daughter.

Investigator: How long have you known Haleigh?

Misty: A year.

Investigator: I want to back up to February 9th, before you went to sleep, you were at the trailer?

Misty: Yes sir.

Investigator: And Haleigh was at the trailer and you went to bed?

Misty: Yes sir.

Investigator: Okay, tell me about that evening.

Misty: Umm…Well, Ronald woke up, we got her <Haleigh> ready for school…she didn’t have the clothes she wanted to wear so we had to come all the way to Welaka to get the outfit she wanted to wear. We took her to school, I walked her into the school, took her to her classroom…we come home, we leave the school, we come home, we probably go back to sleep till probably 11 or 12, I don’t know what time it was. Um, then Ronald gets up and gets ready for work. He picks Haleigh up from the bus stop I stay at home with Junior because he was sleeping…then Ronald goes off to work and um, the AC guy comes over. He comes over and my brother comes over to the house. And the kids played in the front yard. Haleigh was riding her bike doing wheelies in the front yard.

Investigator: You said your brother came over, which brother?

Misty: Hank Croslin Junior. Then they went inside, they watched movies, and they played…I cooked dinner and I washed the blankets, my blanket and Haleigh’s blanket…Haleigh’s blanket smells like pee…

Misty: I laid her down at 8 o’clock…it’s her bed time…8 o’clock…

Investigator: What room in the house was she in?

Misty: My bedroom…the master bedroom…

Investigator: Where were you sleeping?

Misty: Master bedroom.

Investigator: So you were in the room with her?

Misty: Yes.

Investigator: When you went to bed she was in there?

Misty: Yes sir…

Investigator: Okay…and what happened after that?

Misty: I went to sleep.

Misty: All I remember seeing on the clock is 3…I didn’t look at the clock like, it’s on the table next to the bed, and just glanced over and seen 3…Ronald got home…he was home at 3:24 I do believe…that’s what time he arrived at the house…3:24…the cops were called at 3:27…so I don’t know exactly the time it was 3 something I woke up at..

Investigator: Did you hear somebody in the house?

Misty: I don’t know why I woke up, I just woke up out of a deep sleep…just woke up.

Investigator: And what happened when you woke up, what did you notice?

Misty: The kitchen light was on…from where my bedroom is, the kitchen, all the lights were shut off when I went to bed…that kitchen light I knew was off when I went to sleep, so the kitchen light was just glaring into my bedroom. So I got up and went to the kitchen, that’s when I noticed the back door was open...the screen door is held open by a big concrete block…I started freaking out then. I didn’t know Haleigh was gone yet. So I run back into my bedroom and grab my phone to call Ronald to ask him like hey, did you come home and leave the back door open? Because I was freaking out the back door’s open with kids, freaking out already, then I run back and tried to call him, and that’s when she was gone….then I just start freaking out…looking under closets, beds, everywhere screaming her name…couldn’t find her.

Investigator: When did you start getting excited?

Misty: What do you mean?

Investigator: At what point did you start freaking out?

Misty: Right after I noticed she was gone. Freaking out.

Investigator: Do you know anything at all about Haleigh going missing?

Misty: Nothing at all about Haleigh going missing.

Investigator: Do you know of any person that would bother Haleigh?

Misty: I really didn’t know a lot of people---I have suspicions yea…

Investigator: What do you think happened?

Misty: I don’t know what happened, I think maybe, if they come in, her mother’s side of the family they come and got her because they didn’t want to pay child support…or if it was someone else like I keep hearing a lot of stuff about my brother.

Investigator: You have knowledge to the person who’s taken Haleigh. You need to think and tell me the truth---because I can see changes okay---

Misty: Yea! I’m trying to think, I’ve been thinking for six months…I don’t know…I don’t know if I’ve seen something in my sleep.

Investigator: There are things you’re not telling me…I can see it…there’s things going on with you about Haleigh that you’re not telling…

Misty: There’s nothing I’m not telling nobody…I’ve told everybody everything that I know…I don’t know what you’re trying to get out of me. I’m 17-years-old…I mean come on…how much can a 17-year-old take? I didn’t have nothing to do with her…I love that little girl more than anything…I’d never hurt her…If I knew who hurt her I’d tell…we’re not talking about a grownup we’re talking about a child.

Investigator: Tell me about how your home life was when you were growing up?
Misty: It was terrible…I have been in and out of houses, lived in cars, had drug addicts as parents…my life has been bad my whole life…and it’s just not going to get better it looks like.

Misty then starts talking about abuse she endured as a child at the hands of a family member. She also pointed fingers at several other people she thinks may have been responsible for Haleigh’s disappearance. This part of the test that mentions names was not released.

http://www.thesky973.com/pages/5097006.php

[lorettalockhorn]

Family Court Update and More
August 27th, 2009
FAMILY COURT:

The motion Crystal filed for her son Ronald Jr. to receive weekly counseling was heard in Putnam County Family Court today. The child will receive weekly counseling with a child therapist.



Since Crystal was forced to seek relief in the courts for her son to get this counseling, we can assume that Ron Cummings was not agreeable to seeking help for his son.



Could it be that Ron is afraid of what the child is going to say? Not only about his sister’s disappearance but also about the lifestyle he lives with his father and stepmother?



On that subject, I wonder if the recent items in the media provide grounds for a reevaluation of custody. Clearly, it’s not safe to leave a child in a home with someone who is withholding information abut a missing child.





Another item of interest is this comment from First Coast News

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/local/news-article.aspx?storyid=144010&catid=3



Misty Cummings, the wife of Haleigh’s father Ronald, told First Coast News, “I feel like they’re trying to pinpoint me because they cannot find the right person.”



It appears that the Cummings clan is now villifying Tim Miller, Mark NeJame, and TES. First Coast News reported



Misty Cummings told First Coast News she and her husband will have nothing more to do with Tim Miller or with Mark NeJame. He is the attorney who agreed to work with the Cummings last week in the search for Haleigh.

Misty Cummings said she feels they lied to her.

Miller said Misty Cummings wanted to take the tests and came to him asking for help to clear her name.



Perhaps now Tim Miller and Texas Equusearch will begin communicating with the side of Haleigh’s family that is cooperating with Law Enforcement. From what I understand, Haleigh’s maternal family has reached out to the organization on several occasions and has been rebuffed repeatedly.



I always thought Tim Miller to be a compassionate man who does not take “sides” in a case like this. However the way he has treated Haleigh’s mother displays that my impression of the man was incorrect. It is inexcusable that an organization devoted to finding missing persons is virtually ignoring the mother of a missing child, especially when that mother has been essentially cleared by law enforcement. Crystal was not invited to the news conference held last week. This mother deserves to be apprised of the activities concerning the search for her missing daughter.



TES used to receive donations from me on a regular basis. That will not happen any longer.

http://justiceforhaleigh.afterhoursfriends.com/

[lorettalockhorn]

Misty Croslin-Cummings’ polygraph tapes released

ORLANDO, Fla. -- What started as the opportunity to clear her name may have backfired for the stepmother of missing six-year-old Haleigh Cummings. Action News is the first local station to get exclusive access to polygraph tests she took in mid-August.



The Texas based search and recovery group Equusearch was contacted by Misty’s family. The group says Misty contacted them so they could conduct polygraph tests which would clear her of any wrongdoing in the disappearance of Haleigh. Equusearch assigned three different independent investigators to perform three different tests: a polygraph test, voice analysis, and hypnosis. After the tests were completed, Equusearch says Misty “miserably failed” the polygraph.



Misty’s lawyer advised she not take the polygraph tests because the group Equusearch was not affiliated with any law enforcement agency, and she had already submitted to several polygraphs under the supervision of the Putnam County Sheriff’s Office. In a handwritten note dated August 19, Misty explains why she decided to take the test:



“I Misty Cummings have an attorney named Robert Fields. He told me not to take this polygraph. I am taking it anyway. I am taking it because I want to clear my name.”...

...Misty goes on to talk about abuse she endured as a child at the hands of a family member. She also pointed fingers at several other people she thinks may have been responsible for Haleigh’s disappearance.

After viewing the tapes, Action News spoke with Major Gary Bowling of the Putnam County Sheriff’s Office. He says his office has viewed the tapes and the results of the polygraph tests and says they all solidify what his agency has been saying from the beginning. He says Misty’s story has been inconsistent from the beginning. He also says the results of these polygraphs do not advance or back this case up. He says it merely brings light to the fact that Misty may know more about Haleigh’s disappearance than she’s letting on.

According to the documents released from the polygraph tests, the conclusion the investigator came up with is that there was “deception indicated.” The examiner said in the documents that there was, “significant and consistent physiological reactions to each of the relevant questions.”

Neither Misty nor Ronald Cummings would comment on the results of the polygraphs. When Action News called their home, someone there said under the advice of their lawyer, neither would be speaking with the media about the results.

http://www.actionnewsjax.com/content/topstories/story/Misty-Croslin-Cummings-polygraph-tapes-released/j7-bWzHuekSLPlWFcKCkhA.cspx

[SaraSidle]

Family Court Update and More
August 27th, 2009
FAMILY COURT:

The motion Crystal filed for her son Ronald Jr. to receive weekly counseling was heard in Putnam County Family Court today. The child will receive weekly counseling with a child therapist.



Since Crystal was forced to seek relief in the courts for her son to get this counseling, we can assume that Ron Cummings was not agreeable to seeking help for his son.



Could it be that Ron is afraid of what the child is going to say? Not only about his sister’s disappearance but also about the lifestyle he lives with his father and stepmother?



On that subject, I wonder if the recent items in the media provide grounds for a reevaluation of custody. Clearly, it’s not safe to leave a child in a home with someone who is withholding information abut a missing child.





Another item of interest is this comment from First Coast News

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/local/news-article.aspx?storyid=144010&catid=3



Misty Cummings, the wife of Haleigh’s father Ronald, told First Coast News, “I feel like they’re trying to pinpoint me because they cannot find the right person.”



It appears that the Cummings clan is now villifying Tim Miller, Mark NeJame, and TES. First Coast News reported



Misty Cummings told First Coast News she and her husband will have nothing more to do with Tim Miller or with Mark NeJame. He is the attorney who agreed to work with the Cummings last week in the search for Haleigh.

Misty Cummings said she feels they lied to her.

Miller said Misty Cummings wanted to take the tests and came to him asking for help to clear her name.



Perhaps now Tim Miller and Texas Equusearch will begin communicating with the side of Haleigh’s family that is cooperating with Law Enforcement. From what I understand, Haleigh’s maternal family has reached out to the organization on several occasions and has been rebuffed repeatedly.



I always thought Tim Miller to be a compassionate man who does not take “sides” in a case like this. However the way he has treated Haleigh’s mother displays that my impression of the man was incorrect. It is inexcusable that an organization devoted to finding missing persons is virtually ignoring the mother of a missing child, especially when that mother has been essentially cleared by law enforcement. Crystal was not invited to the news conference held last week. This mother deserves to be apprised of the activities concerning the search for her missing daughter.



TES used to receive donations from me on a regular basis. That will not happen any longer.

http://justiceforhaleigh.afterhoursfriends.com/

I find it strange all the attacks on TM all of a sudden. Surely an emotional case. I thought it was strange that Misti says she called Ron
when she first woke up asking if he had been there. Does he normally come home before his shift is over and then go back???

[BeastofBears]

Wow. Every time I visit this thread it seems like there's a new version of events from Misti. I thought she was going to the bathroom?

[SaraSidle]

Wow. Every time I visit this thread it seems like there's a new version of events from Misti. I thought she was going to the bathroom?

sometimes I think she is related to another family in Florida. Misti at least keeps it mostly at the same location and instead of making up new stories in different places. IMO

[wind149]

"The kitchen light was on" I saw the reporter on NG who was showing the house to the world and you can't SEE the light from the kitchen in the bedroom, you have to walk into the living room to be able to see it so right there again, she lied and we all saw for ourselves she lied and those doors, no one came through them that night, that was staged by her and the locks, there was no way the kids could reach them and like I said, a snapper like Couey will scope out the home, the routine of the family and where everyone sleeps, basically the whole house and he would know that he could not enter the home through the back doors as they are too noisy and as sick as these pukes can be, even they will not risk getting caught. And there is a bathroom in the master bedroom, why would she get up and use the one that is off the laundry room? Because, this never happened, this is all a figment of her low life mind.

And just like I figured, her upbringing was not good, and for her to say she was sexually assaulted is probably true, the whole Croslin clan, just looking at them, you know they are complete low life's too and horrible parents and who would walk around willingly with no teeth?? Probably rotted out of Mama's head when she sucked a crack pipe or two, she has that sea hag look about her that cronic crackheads have, the missing teeth. the sunken cheeks and the stringy hair and what little I saw of Daddy, caught a glimpse at the "nuptials" and he was walking with a crutch, apparently from the accident he was in and you could tell right off he was buzzed out of his skull, prolly Ron laid on some good narcotics for his new Daddy in law?? But that time he doesn't "poison him"? Now we have not glimpsed what any of her brothers look like, but you can just guess, they will look like scum too??

I looked at her really good on an interview and she just has that incest look going on and the ones here that have or are working with abused kids, will know where I am coming from with this. If you are a product of incest, you do tend to not be bright due to really having the same gene pool and they have this certain look, a dim witted look, it is in their eyes, they don't do eye contact well and it is just you can tell that their Daddy or brother or uncle is abusing them and some actually don't mind it, others accept it as their due and very few will admit to it and I think Misty has been abused by probably all the males in her life and that is why she picked a mate that is older and an abuser, for her, this is as good as it gets, she just escaped being abused by Dad, and Ron is the best she can do. But I see a divorce looming in the future unless Ron plans on visiting honey pie in prison? And as for her killing Haleigh, he has no one to blame but himself, but he is too ignorant to see that for himself.

[SaraSidle]

"The kitchen light was on" I saw the reporter on NG who was showing the house to the world and you can't SEE the light from the kitchen in the bedroom, you have to walk into the living room to be able to see it so right there again, she lied and we all saw for ourselves she lied and those doors, no one came through them that night, that was staged by her and the locks, there was no way the kids could reach them and like I said, a snapper like Couey will scope out the home, the routine of the family and where everyone sleeps, basically the whole house and he would know that he could not enter the home through the back doors as they are too noisy and as sick as these pukes can be, even they will not risk getting caught. And there is a bathroom in the master bedroom, why would she get up and use the one that is off the laundry room? Because, this never happened, this is all a figment of her low life mind.

And just like I figured, her upbringing was not good, and for her to say she was sexually assaulted is probably true, the whole Croslin clan, just looking at them, you know they are complete low life's too and horrible parents and who would walk around willingly with no teeth?? Probably rotted out of Mama's head when she sucked a crack pipe or two, she has that sea hag look about her that cronic crackheads have, the missing teeth. the sunken cheeks and the stringy hair and what little I saw of Daddy, caught a glimpse at the "nuptials" and he was walking with a crutch, apparently from the accident he was in and you could tell right off he was buzzed out of his skull, prolly Ron laid on some good narcotics for his new Daddy in law?? But that time he doesn't "poison him"? Now we have not glimpsed what any of her brothers look like, but you can just guess, they will look like scum too??

I looked at her really good on an interview and she just has that incest look going on and the ones here that have or are working with abused kids, will know where I am coming from with this. If you are a product of incest, you do tend to not be bright due to really having the same gene pool and they have this certain look, a dim witted look, it is in their eyes, they don't do eye contact well and it is just you can tell that their Daddy or brother or uncle is abusing them and some actually don't mind it, others accept it as their due and very few will admit to it and I think Misty has been abused by probably all the males in her life and that is why she picked a mate that is older and an abuser, for her, this is as good as it gets, she just escaped being abused by Dad, and Ron is the best she can do. But I see a divorce looming in the future unless Ron plans on visiting honey pie in prison? And as for her killing Haleigh, he has no one to blame but himself, but he is too ignorant to see that for himself.

I do not see her as being capable of something like that alone. IMO
How is school going?

[DrewBerry]

For sure, but I seriously doubt if a "polygraph expert" didn't ask the minimum control questions, and I would imagine that this is just a snippet intended to show where the deceit lies. I'm sure we haven't heard the end of it all!

I just hope and pray that when the civil judge has Ron in court to hear the motion for Junior to receive counseling, he will take into consideration that Junior is living in a very tense household/snake pit, likely surrounded by lies and a father and step-mother that must by now be at odds.

Me too, Loretta. Hopefully, there is a decent child therapist in that community. Crystal having to go to court to get counseling for her son speaks volumes about Ronnie boy, who undoubtedly is against getting help for his son. Why do you suppose Ronnie doesn't want Jr. in therapy? My good gawd! He is a rageaholic, drug addict, thief, and is married to a child. Jr. definitely needs counseling! Good for Crystal for advocating for her Jr. Maybe she can go to court to get Misty some court ordered counseling too!! tee hee.
:seeya:
Drew

[lorettalockhorn]

Me too, Loretta. Hopefully, there is a decent child therapist in that community. Crystal having to go to court to get counseling for her son speaks volumes about Ronnie boy, who undoubtedly is against getting help for his son. Why do you suppose Ronnie doesn't want Jr. in therapy? My good gawd! He is a rageaholic, drug addict, thief, and is married to a child. Jr. definitely needs counseling! Good for Crystal for advocating for her Jr. Maybe she can go to court to get Misty some court ordered counseling too!! tee hee.
:seeya:
Drew

Considering the actions of the judge, DCF, and LE in Putnam County, I don't figure there's a chance in Hades that there is a therapist who wants to even touch this case. I'd give Leroy's left you-know-what to know what went on in court today and what Ron's argument was for refusing treatment. At least Crystal doesn't seem to be afraid of Junior pouring out his heart or spilling his guts!

[Livia]

I know I keep repeating myself, but I can't stop marveling over how a none-too-bright (and utterly unsophisticated) 17-year-old like Misty has managed for six months to befuddle, outfox, and stonewall LE. I can only conclude that for some unknown reason they're handling her with kid gloves, I think if they applied enough pressure she would crack. (She's no Casey Anthony! :cool: )

Altho, frankly, I am beginning to wonder just what's going on with Misty. Maybe she's a Casey in the making??

At the moment I'm thinking that she wasn't at home when Haleigh disappeared. I'm thinking that she was probably out partying somewhere (probably stoned out of her head), that she arrived home shortly before calling for help, and found Haleigh missing. And that everything since then--the lies, the obfuscations, the stonewalling--has been a result of her fear of admitting that when she was supposed to be at home looking after the children, she wasn't there.

I wouldn't want to admit it either. Especially to a charming specimen like Ron.

But enough is enough. This is about a missing child. Somebody needs to make very, very clear to Misty that unless she starts coming clean, she'll have a lot more to worry about than her new hubby...:mad:

[Woostock]

I go b ack and forth also with Misty not being home---the friends are doing drugs, and many other things, and poor Misty is home with two kids....Just go out for a short time; nobody will ever know.....However, things didn't go as planned and Haleigh is gone when Misty returns....But this scenario has holes as well.

[beemer]

I know I keep repeating myself, but I can't stop marveling over how a none-too-bright (and utterly unsophisticated) 17-year-old like Misty has managed for six months to befuddle, outfox, and stonewall LE. I can only conclude that for some unknown reason they're handling her with kid gloves, I think if they applied enough pressure she would crack. (She's no Casey Anthony! :cool: )

Altho, frankly, I am beginning to wonder just what's going on with Misty. Maybe she's a Casey in the making??

At the moment I'm thinking that she wasn't at home when Haleigh disappeared. I'm thinking that she was probably out partying somewhere (probably stoned out of her head), that she arrived home shortly before calling for help, and found Haleigh missing. And that everything since then--the lies, the obfuscations, the stonewalling--has been a result of her fear of admitting that when she was supposed to be at home looking after the children, she wasn't there.

I wouldn't want to admit it either. Especially to a charming specimen like Ron.

But enough is enough. This is about a missing child. Somebody needs to make very, very clear to Misty that unless she starts coming clean, she'll have a lot more to worry about than her new hubby...:mad:

Great post:beer: I just hope LE does not have the same IQ. Those statements Misty wrote out were frightening-in terms of spelling and grammar. She needs to take some courses when and if she hits the slammer :shrug:

[SaraSidle]

Great post:beer: I just hope LE does not have the same IQ. Those statements Misty wrote out were frightening-in terms of spelling and grammar. She needs to take some courses when and if she hits the slammer :shrug:

She needs to finish her HS degree. I just want to shake her like I wanted to shake Casey for the truth. both liars. sara

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Misty Cummings Believes Haleigh is Still Alive


PUTNAM COUNTY, FL -- In her layered voice exam, Misty Cummings said she cooked dinner and washed Haleigh's blanket hours before tucking her into bed on the February night the five-year-old girl disappeared.

Cummings, the wife of Haleigh's father Ronald Cummings, agreed to a series of tests set up by Texas Equusearch founder Tim Miller. She took a polygraph exam on August 19, and she underwent hypnosis and took a layered voice analysis test on August 24.

Misty Cummings said she put Haleigh to bed around 8 p.m., then went to bed around 10 p.m., and woke up at 3 a.m. on Tuesday, February 10 and noticed the kitchen light on. She said she remembered turning it off before going to bed. She got up to check it out and saw the back door wide open and the screen door propped open. She returned to her bedroom and noticed the girl in her care had vanished.

Haleigh Cummings, who would've turned 6-years-old this month, hasn't been seen since.

During the questioning, Misty Cummings said she believes the little girl is still alive. She also said she didn't believe her husband had anything to do with Haleigh's disappearance.

Click on the video link to hear excerpts from her polygraph exam with D. Craig Harper.

Miller said Cummings failed the voice test and polygraph exam.

T.J. Ward, the private investigator who administered the voice test, said the Putnam County Sheriff's office conducted its own polygraph exams with Cummings and that she failed those too.

CLICK HERE TO WATCH THE FULL INTERVIEW WITH T.J. WARD

The Putnam County Sheriff's Office would neither confirm nor deny its polygraph results.

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/local/news-article.aspx?storyid=144034&catid=3

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HaLeigh Cummings case: Misty speaks out about failed tests, says she was lied to


http://www.examiner.com/x-1168-Crime-Examiner~y2009m8d27-HaLeigh-Cummings-case-Misty-speaks-out-about-failed-tests-says-she-was-lied-to

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Croslin takes polygraph

PUTNAM COUNTY, Fla. (WOFL FOX 35) - Misty (Croslin) Cummings was babysitting Haleigh Cummings when she vanished from her father's Putnam County trailer in February.

A man who recently gave Croslin a lie detector test says she “failed miserably.”

In video taken by a freelance photographer at the request of Texas Equusearch founder, Tim Miller, you can't see the administrator of the voice analysis, but he worked with Miller in Aruba on the Natalie Holloway case.

He says Misty is hiding something.

"There's things going on with you about Haleigh going missing that you know about that you're not telling me about," he says. "There's nothing I'm not telling nobody. I told you and everybody everything I know. I don't know what you're trying to get out of me. I'm 17-years-old...come on...how much can a 17-year-old take?" responds Croslin.

During a couple hours of this voice analysis, a polygraph and even hypnosis; misty again and again points the finger at other people. Miller says the polygraph test was not effective, adding that misty was not cooperative, even though she was the one who requested it be conducted.

"If it's her mother's side of the family... they came in and took her because they didn't want to pay child support.... or if it was somebody else.... I keep hearing things about my brother... I have no idea if he took her," said Croslin.

Investigators say Croslin insists sometime between 10 p.m. and 3 a.m., the morning of February 9, while she and Haleigh slept in the same room, someone came in and took the child.

The Putnam County Sheriff's Office says misty is their person of interest right now adding that her only consistency is her inconsistency.

In one of the polygraph questions, Croslin is asked, “Have you intentionally withheld any information about Haleigh's disappearance?" to which she answered, “No.” According to the polygraph technician, her answer indicated a 99 percent deception rate.

When asked if she knew the whereabouts of Haleigh, again she answered, “No.” According to the polygraph technician, her answer indicated a 95 percent deception rate.

But when asked if she knew who took Haleigh, again the answer was, “No.” This time, according to the polygraph technician, her answer indicated a 46 percent deception rate.

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Misty Cummings: 'I'm 17-Years-Old, What Do You Think?'

PUTNAM COUNTY, FL -- The one person police believe holds the key in the case of Haleigh Cummings spoke to First Coast News this afternoon.

Misty Cummings, the wife of Haleigh's father Ronald, told First Coast News, "I feel like they're trying to pinpoint me because they cannot find the right person."

Police say her story is "sketchy," and she underwent a series of tests recently to clear her name, but reportedly failed them all.

Haleigh's maternal grandmother, Marie Griffis, also spoke with First Coast News Thursday about yesterday's revelation that Misty Cummings, the wife of Haleigh's father Ronald, had recently failed a series of tests she wanted to take to clear her name.

First Coast News broke the story about the failed tests Wednesday afternoon.

REPORT: MISTY CROSLIN MISERABLY FAILED POLYGRAPH

Griffis says that only confirms what she already thought, that Misty knows more than she's letting on about what happened the night Haleigh disappeared from Ronald Cummings' home in Satsuma.

Griffis also said she thinks Ronald Cummings should be tested, as she believes he also knows more than he's saying.

The Putnam County Sheriff's Office has said Ronald Cummings is not a suspect, but investigators do feel that Misty knows more than she's saying.

Misty Cummings told First Coast News said Tim Miller of Texas EquuSearch told her if she did not agree to take the polygraph, voice analysis test, and undergo hypnosis, he would not search for Haleigh.

She said she only agreed to take the tests because she wanted Miller to search for Haleigh. She also said she did not want to take the tests because her attorney told her not to.

Misty Cummings told First Coast News she and her husband will have nothing more to do with Tim Miller or with Mark NeJame. He is the attorney who agreed to work with the Cummings last week in the search for Haleigh.

Misty Cummings said she feels they lied to her.

Miller said Misty Cummings wanted to take the tests and came to him asking for help to clear her name.

During the tests, Misty Cummings said, "I didn't have nothing to do with it. I loved that little girl more than anything. I would never hurt her. If i knew who hurt her, I would tell!"

At one point, private investigator T.J. Ward, who conducted the test, pressed Misty Cummings for answers.

"I don't know what your're trying to get out of me. I'm 17-years-old, what do you think? Come on! How much do you think a 17-year-old can take?" Misty Cummings asked Ward as she cried.

Miller said he will still do a ground search for Haleigh in Putnam County.

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/topstories/news-article.aspx?storyid=144010&catid=3

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Haleigh's Stepmom Takes Stress Test
Girl Vanished From Satsuma Home 6 Months Ago

ORLANDO, Fla. -- Misty Cummings, the person to last see Haleigh Cummings, told a private detective during a voice stress test this week that she is not hiding any information about the missing girl.

VIDEO: Misty Questioned | Full Stress Test

Haleigh disappeared from a Satsuma home while Misty Cummings, who was then the live-in girlfriend of the girl's father but has since married him, was asleep in the house. Haleigh was 5 years old when she vanished.

Misty Cummings, 17, said she volunteered to take the voice stress test in an effort to clear her name.

Video of the voice stress test, which was conducted by a private detective from Atlanta, was obtained by Local 6 News and the detective can be heard telling Misty Cummings that he thinks she's hiding information about the case.

"I can see it. There's things going on with you about Haleigh going missing that you know about and you're not telling anybody," the detective said.

"There's nothing that I'm not telling nobody. I told everybody everything that I know. I don't know what you're trying to get out of me," Misty Cummings said.

During the voice stress test, Misty Cummings denied doing anything to harm Haleigh, but she did say she suspects others may have played a role in the girl's disappearance.

"Why do you think your brother would take Haleigh?" the detective asked.

"Well, he's done something to me. The way he's been acting lately, it's really, really strange," said Misty Cummings, who added that her cousin or the family of Haleigh's biological mother could have been involved.

Misty Cummings said her husband, Ronald Cummings, the girl's father, had nothing to do with the disappearance. She also said that she's not been told about Haleigh's whereabouts.

"I have never been once told not to tell where Haleigh is. I don't care if somebody told me not to tell. If they want to kill me, they can kill me. They can have my life for her back any day," Misty Cummings said.

Earlier this week, Tim Miller the leader of the Texas-based group Equusearch that has looked for Haleigh, said that Misty Cummings has failed two lie detector tests.

The Putnam County Sheriff's Office has never said that Misty ever failed the polygraph tests that she took.

Watch Local 6 News for more on this story.

http://www.clickorlando.com/news/20596692/detail.html

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Steph Watts' pedigree:

Investigative Producer/Reporter

Gets the stories that others can't!

Steph is the Freelance Reporter for all your breaking news or long format needs.



"In this tough economy I understand the concept of lean and mean news. I am able to get in, get the story and get out. "



His reputation stems from the following projects.

Producing documentaries for Court TV before moving to Daytime Trial Coverage where he gained extensive knowledge in the criminal justice system covering major live trials gavel to gavel.

Producing an entertainment/legal show called “Hollywood at Large." He executive-produced and co-hosted a radio show with Nancy Grace featuring daily coverage of the Scott Peterson trial and launched Graces’ TV show on CNN Headlines News, where Steph produced and reported from the field.

2 years at “On the Record with Greta Van Susteren” at the FOX NEWS Channel, travelling international on some of the biggest stories including Natalee Holloway, Anna Nicole Smith, to tracking Fugitive Soldier Cesar Lorean through Mexico and continuing work on the Casey Anthony Drew Peterson Cases.

Producing and reporting for MTV Networks and PBS and most recently Good Morning America at ABC News.

High-Profile Stories

Steph's investigative work with Mark Fuhrman for OTR at FOX News on the disappearance of Stacy Peterson was seminal. She was the fourth wife of Bolingbrook Police Officer Drew Peterson, and prime suspect in her disappearance. This work led to the reclassification of the death of Peterson’s second wife Kathleen Savio, from an accident to a homicide.



My Style

In addition to producing and reporting he shoots video extensively.

"I am never without a camera. This has allowed me to capture breaking new and exclusive video from the scene of many national news stories; from inside the tragedy at Virginia Tech and the raids on the FLDS compound in Texas, to recently locating and shooting an exclusive interview with Joran van Der Sloot in Thailand. (see photos), I combine the latest technology with my years of experience to bring first hand accounts from the people closest to the stories."

http://www.stephwattsreporter.com/

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Nancy Grace is covering Haleigh's case again, last night's transcript (8/27):

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0908/27/ng.01.html

Mike Brooks guested tonight and he is not a fan of the voice layer analysis technique, but does consider the polygraph to be an effective tool. Transcript hasn't been posted yet.

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Misty's Brother and His Wife Questioned in Haleigh's Disappearance

PUTNAM COUNTY, FL -- The Putnam County Sheriff's Office is interviewing Misty Cummings' brother and his wife in connection with the disappearance of Haleigh Cummings, who disappeared a little more than 6 months ago from her home in Satsuma.

Hank Croslin tells First Coast News that detectives took his son, Tommy Croslin, to the sheriff's office at about 7 p.m. Friday. Hank Croslin is also Misty's father, but says allegations against his son that he was involved in Haleigh's disappearance are untrue.

Hank Croslin says his son told investigators that he would take a lie detector test to prove his innocence as he was led away.

Tommy Croslin says he has no idea why his sister is accusing him in Haleigh's disappearance. He told First Coast News Misty is trying to pass blame onto someone.

Despite the accusations, he says he stands by his sister and doesn't think she had anything to do with Haleigh's disappearance.

He is now being questioned by detectives. This is the first time he has been brought in for questioning in about a month.

Stay with First Coast News and FirstCoastNews.com for the latest information.

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/topstories/news-article.aspx?storyid=144116&catid=3

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Expert: Misty Has Doubt About Haleigh's Dad

PUTNAM COUNTY, FL -- Six months after Haleigh Cummings disappeared, Misty Croslin-Cummings re-lives those last moments with a voice analysis expert and hypnosis expert.

Cummings spent more than 20 minutes under hypnosis. Most of the time was used to describe in detail those moments when Misty woke up and realized Haleigh was gone.

"We just looked and we searched and we couldn't find her," Cummings told the hypnosis expert.

The expert says Misty wasn't totally under and the test was inconclusive.

"I gave you the truth. I gave you everything that I got. If I knew more I would tell you," Misty told the expert.

More telling was the second test Misty did that same day, a layered voice analysis.

"I don't know why I woke up. I just woke up out of a deep sleep. I just woke up," said Misty. The expert, T.J. Ward, asked, "What did you notice?" Misty replied, "The kitchen light was on. All the lights were shut off when I went to bed. That kitchen light I knew was off when I went to sleep. The kitchen light was just glaring in my bedroom. So, I got up and went to the kitchen and that's when I noticed the back door was wide open."

For the next 20 minutes, Misty had a conversation with the expert, who was able to track her stress and movements.

"Do you know of any person that would bother Haleigh?" asked Ward. Misty replied, "I really didn't know a lot of people. I have suspicions, yeah."

Police have asked us not to release that part of the tape.

But it's what Misty did say during that section that raised a red flag for the voice expert. "You have knowledge of the person who has taken Haleigh. You need to think. You need to tell me the truth because I can see changes," Ward told Misty.

While fighting back tears, Misty said, "I've been trying to think. I've been thinking for six months. I don't know. I don't know if I seen something in my sleep. I don't know."

"There's something you are not telling me. Okay, I want you to tell me about it. I can see it. There's things about Haleigh you are not telling anybody," Ward told her.

"There's nothing I'm not telling nobody. I told everybody everything that I know. I don't know what you are trying to get out of me. I'm 17 years old. What do you think, come on how much can a 17 year old take?" Misty replied.

Misty was then asked about Ronald Cummings, Haleigh's dad and her new husband. It was that questioning which puzzled the expert.

"Ronald had nothing to do with his daughter. He loves his daughter more than anything in this world," Misty told Ward.

He then told her, "When I asked you that, it came up and said you are not sure. Why is there doubt in your mind?"

Misty replied, "I don't know. I don't know if there's doubt in my mind, really Ronald didn't have nothing to do with his daughter, I can tell you that."

Ward then asked Misty, "What do you think happened to Haleigh?"

Misty replied, "I don't know what's happened to her. I mean I don't think she's dead, and I don't think she's dead at all. Everyone keeps saying she could be, I don't think Haleigh's dead."

Ward then pressed Misty a little more, asking her if someone has threatened her not to say what happened to Haleigh.

"No, nobody told me nothing to say about Haleigh or nothing. I've never been once told not to tell where Haleigh is. I wouldn't care if someone told me not to tell I would still tell. I don't care if they want to kill me. Go ahead and kill me, they can have my life for her back any day."

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/news-article.aspx?storyid=144098

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HaLeigh Cummings case video: Interview with man who gave Misty voice analysis test

http://www.examiner.com/x-1168-Crime-Examiner~y2009m8d28-Video-Interview-with-man-who-gave-Misty-voice-analysis-test

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Video Shows Stepmom Under Hypnosis
Haleigh's Stepmom Agreed To Go Under On Monday To Clear Her Name

PUTNAM COUNTY, Fla. -- Channel 4 has obtained video of Misty Cummings, the stepmother of missing Putnam County girl Haleigh Cummings, under hypnosis.

Misty agreed to go under earlier this week in Central Florida. She said she did it to clear her name.

The video shows an expert trying to hypnotize Misty to help her remember what happened the night of Feb. 10 just before Haleigh disappeared.

Despite her story, the expert said the attempt to hypnotize Misty failed because Misty seemed to be fighting going under.

It was one of three different tests administered by T.J. Ward, a private investigator from Atlanta who traveled to Florida on Monday.

Video: Misty Cummings Wanted To Clear Name

Ward also gave Misty an audio analysis test, which he said shows she is not telling the whole story.

"I'm trying to think. I've been thinking for six months," Misty said in the video from audio analysis test. "I don't know. I don't know if I've seen something in my sleep. That's why I'm going to take the hypnosis, cause I don't know."

During a lengthy interview, Misty is asked time and again if she knows what happened to Haleigh. She said she doesn't know.

Ward keeps asking her on the tape why she's holding back information.

"I can see it," Ward said to Misty. "There's things going on with you about Haleigh going missing that you're not telling anybody."

"There's nothing that I'm not telling nobody," Misty told Ward. "I've told everybody everything that I know. I don't know what you're trying to get out of me. I'm 17 years old. I mean, what do you think? How much can a 17-year-old take?"

Ward said he turned the results of the audio analysis test over to the Putnam County Sheriff's Office.

Channel 4 was told that Misty also failed a polygraph test set up by the owner of the search team that helped investigators look for Haleigh when she disappeared.

Haleigh hasn't been seen since February. Her disappearance has gained national attention.

Even though investigators said they have thousands of leads, there is still no sign of the 6-year-old.

Anyone with information about Haleigh's disappearance is asked to call Crimestoppers at 888-277-TIPS.

http://www.news4jax.com/news/20605003/detail.html

Link to vid:

http://www.news4jax.com/video/20605885/index.html

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Interesting that Misty says she looked under the beds. Can a child hide under a mattress on the floor?

[SaraSidle]

Interesting that Misty says she looked under the beds. Can a child hide under a mattress on the floor?

yes I thought the same thing. I also wondered how Haleigh could be removed successfully from the bed while Misti slept through it however I now am wondering if she took something to help her sleep.

Too bad I do not trust lie detector tests..........IMO sara

[Amy]

Are there any safe options under consideration?

I think they could consider many posters on this board who would certainly be able to provide a safe environment for Jr. Even a loving environment.

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yes I thought the same thing. I also wondered how Haleigh could be removed successfully from the bed while Misti slept through it however I now am wondering if she took something to help her sleep.

Too bad I do not trust lie detector tests..........IMO sara

Well, how's about Misty sleeping on either a made bed, or after discovering Haleigh missing, took time to make the bed?! Sheesh I though I was OCD. And she said the kitchen light was glaring into her room (or some such). Don't see how, from the layout of the place.

Like a lot of people I think polygraphs are only as good as the administrator, and the questions are very important. They are a tool for investigators, to guide them to the next question and the next step in the investigation, not a method of deciding who gets past St. Peter.

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New search for Haleigh may come Saturday
Haleigh's stepmom allegedly pointed out a patch of ground marked by a single plastic rose

A comment Misty Croslin-Cummings allegedly made about investigators needing to double-check a patch of ground marked by a single plastic rose in their search for her missing stepdaughter, Haleigh Cummings, has motivated a private firm to begin scouring the area this morning.

Croslin-Cummings, 17, is said to have made the unrecorded comment while undergoing a lie-detector test, hypnosis session and voice stress test earlier this month. The head of the organization that paid for the tests said the stepmother of Haleigh -- the 6-year-old Putnam County girl missing since February -- was trying to clear her name when she agreed to the tests, yet failed each of them.

"She said there was a place that was not searched very well and that we should look for a red rose, and she gave us the location," said Steph Watts, who recorded the sessions for EquuSearch, a private Texas firm that founder and director Tim Miller said was contacted by Croslin-Cummings to help clear her name.

"We went and we looked, and we found it, and the next day we took them (Putnam County investigators) back there," Watts said. "I don't think they are going to dig where the rose is and find the body, but the fact that they went with us shows that they are following up on every lead."

The Putnam County Sheriff's Office has said it has followed about 4,000 leads so far in its search for Haleigh, whom Croslin-Cummings reported missing at 3:27 a.m. on Feb. 10.

Croslin-Cummings initially said she had put Haleigh and her younger brother to bed at about 8 p.m. on Feb. 9 in the same room where she went to sleep about two hours later. She was caring for the children because their father, Ronald Cummings, was working the night shift.

When Haleigh was reported missing, the Putnam County Sheriff's Office launched an Amber Alert and led a massive search that included boats, canine teams, four-wheelers, helicopters and horses.

In the months since Haleigh was last seen, investigators have said Cummings and Haleigh's mother, Crystal Sheffield, are not considered suspects.

On Friday afternoon, Putnam Sheriff's Maj. Gary Bowling weighed his words carefully in describing his agency's view of Croslin-Cummings' situation.

"No, I don't think we consider her a suspect," Bowling said. "We factually know that she is consistently inconsistent and we need some factual exactness about her activities the night before Haleigh disappeared until the morning when she was reported missing."

Croslin-Cummings did not respond to interview requests made Friday through her attorney, a friend and a family member. Without the knowledge or approval of her attorney or the Sheriff's Office, she reportedly asked Miller, the director of EquuSearch, to help her clear her name.

The firm was established nearly 10 years ago to assist in searches, especially after local law enforcement agencies are unable to sustain a search. Miller said Haleigh's family reached out to his firm "because they didn't think enough was being done to find her."

Croslin-Cummings then asked for something specific -- assistance clearing her name so that the search could focus on Haleigh, not on rumors about her, Miller said.

"She said she did not trust the cops and asked me if she could take a lie detector test or something," Miller said. "I told her that was out of the realm of what we did, but this was something that she felt would be helpful, and so we arranged it. This is the first time I have ever been put in a position like this. It has ended with Misty (Croslin-Cummings) not speaking to us. "

Miller said the polygraph that Croslin-Cummings underwent in Orlando on Aug. 19 "showed huge deceptions." When Croslin-Cummmings was told about the results, "she said she wanted to be hypnotized," Miller said. "My thought was 'Now where do we go?' My hopes were that she would have passed, but the opposite happened, so we arranged for the hypnosis and a voice analysis to be done at her husband's aunt's house in Welaka."

Apparently, Croslin-Cummings leaked the news about the pending hypnosis and analysis to some of her relatives, and the word spread quickly. Miller said there were lots of people in the yard of the aunt's home during the tests and that within a day or two, a variety of reporters began requesting interviews.

The sessions were taped and have since been distributed to media outlets around the state, including The Sun. The sessions reportedly were paid for by EquuSearch and recorded by Steph Watts, who distributed copies to reporters with the approval of EquuSearch.

Among those asking for a copy of the tapes and other materials was the Sheriff's Office, which phrased its request in the form of a search warrant, but the firm immediately handed them over, EquuSearch officials said.

Croslin-Cummings' attorney, Robert Fields of Palatka, downplayed the value of the materials.

"Everyone knows that if there was any merit, polygraphs and these sorts of things would be admissible in court," Fields said.

Fields also said that his understanding from conversations he had with Croslin-Cummings was that she agreed to the testing by EquuSearch because "she was told that if she did not take the exams, they (EquuSearch) would not bring any assets to the search." Miller has denied that allegation.

"We will be in Florida very, very soon to search for Haleigh," Miller said. "I am not a detective and did not want to be in the position this has put me in."

Those close to the case said EquuSearch will launch a search this morning at an undisclosed location in Putnam County.

Croslin-Cummings' results also put her attorney in an embarrassing position.

"This all kind of hit me out of the blue," Fields said. "My advice to her was 'Don't speak to any law enforcement without speaking to me first,' and I found it hard to imagine that a private party would be playing Magnum P.I."

Seventh Judicial Circuit Assistant State Attorney Christopher Kelly gave no indication that any arrest or other legal action is imminent.

"We have been in touch with the Sheriff's Office since the beginning, but this is still under investigation, so it is still in their hands," Kelly said.

http://www.gainesville.com/article/20090828/ARTICLES/908289905/1003/NEWS04?Title=New-search-for-Haleigh-may-come-Saturday

[SaraSidle]

Well, how's about Misty sleeping on either a made bed, or after discovering Haleigh missing, took time to make the bed?! Sheesh I though I was OCD. And she said the kitchen light was glaring into her room (or some such). Don't see how, from the layout of the place.

Like a lot of people I think polygraphs are only as good as the administrator, and the questions are very important. They are a tool for investigators, to guide them to the next question and the next step in the investigation, not a method of deciding who gets past St. Peter.

I still do not trust them and I would not take one.

thank you for all the posts and links Loretta. I really appreciate it. sara

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Interview with investigator who questioned Tommy Croslin:

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/video/default.aspx?maven_playerId=immersiveplayer&maven_referralPlaylistId=e91276d17ee6ae4cc3bcd3da8 b1d0b7d36168356&maven_referralObject=1231596480

(Thinking the captain's name is Piscatello.)

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Friday August 28, 2009
August 28th, 2009
From this blog, written by a witness to the TES questioning of Misty this week

http://stephww.wordpress.com/

Misty Cummings, she revealed something that may, or may be of interest. When asked “is there anything else you can remember, in particular, is there anywhere police should be looking”, she paused and said “there’s a place that needs to be searched again.” She then gave us specific directions and said “look in the forest for a single red rose”. Ronald drove us to the location she described and when we entered into the woods as directed we found a red plastic rose, covered lightly with brush. It was an eerie moment and we quickly retreated with the intention of going directly to law enforcement, which we did. We returned later with law enforcement and without Ronald Cummings. Investigators bagged the rose and decided the area was worth being searched. The intense, detailed search with law enforcement and Texas equusearch is scheduled for tomorrow morning.

And from this article

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/topstories/news-article.aspx?storyid=144116&catid=3

The Putnam County Sheriff’s Office is interviewing Misty Cummings’ brother and his wife in connection with the disappearance of Haleigh Cummings, who disappeared a little more than 6 months ago from her home in Satsuma...

http://justiceforhaleigh.afterhoursfriends.com/

[SaraSidle]

New search for Haleigh may come Saturday
Haleigh's stepmom allegedly pointed out a patch of ground marked by a single plastic rose

A comment Misty Croslin-Cummings allegedly made about investigators needing to double-check a patch of ground marked by a single plastic rose in their search for her missing stepdaughter, Haleigh Cummings, has motivated a private firm to begin scouring the area this morning.

Croslin-Cummings, 17, is said to have made the unrecorded comment while undergoing a lie-detector test, hypnosis session and voice stress test earlier this month. The head of the organization that paid for the tests said the stepmother of Haleigh -- the 6-year-old Putnam County girl missing since February -- was trying to clear her name when she agreed to the tests, yet failed each of them.

"She said there was a place that was not searched very well and that we should look for a red rose, and she gave us the location," said Steph Watts, who recorded the sessions for EquuSearch, a private Texas firm that founder and director Tim Miller said was contacted by Croslin-Cummings to help clear her name.

"We went and we looked, and we found it, and the next day we took them (Putnam County investigators) back there," Watts said. "I don't think they are going to dig where the rose is and find the body, but the fact that they went with us shows that they are following up on every lead."

The Putnam County Sheriff's Office has said it has followed about 4,000 leads so far in its search for Haleigh, whom Croslin-Cummings reported missing at 3:27 a.m. on Feb. 10.

Croslin-Cummings initially said she had put Haleigh and her younger brother to bed at about 8 p.m. on Feb. 9 in the same room where she went to sleep about two hours later. She was caring for the children because their father, Ronald Cummings, was working the night shift.

When Haleigh was reported missing, the Putnam County Sheriff's Office launched an Amber Alert and led a massive search that included boats, canine teams, four-wheelers, helicopters and horses.

In the months since Haleigh was last seen, investigators have said Cummings and Haleigh's mother, Crystal Sheffield, are not considered suspects.

On Friday afternoon, Putnam Sheriff's Maj. Gary Bowling weighed his words carefully in describing his agency's view of Croslin-Cummings' situation.

"No, I don't think we consider her a suspect," Bowling said. "We factually know that she is consistently inconsistent and we need some factual exactness about her activities the night before Haleigh disappeared until the morning when she was reported missing."

Croslin-Cummings did not respond to interview requests made Friday through her attorney, a friend and a family member. Without the knowledge or approval of her attorney or the Sheriff's Office, she reportedly asked Miller, the director of EquuSearch, to help her clear her name.

The firm was established nearly 10 years ago to assist in searches, especially after local law enforcement agencies are unable to sustain a search. Miller said Haleigh's family reached out to his firm "because they didn't think enough was being done to find her."

Croslin-Cummings then asked for something specific -- assistance clearing her name so that the search could focus on Haleigh, not on rumors about her, Miller said.

"She said she did not trust the cops and asked me if she could take a lie detector test or something," Miller said. "I told her that was out of the realm of what we did, but this was something that she felt would be helpful, and so we arranged it. This is the first time I have ever been put in a position like this. It has ended with Misty (Croslin-Cummings) not speaking to us. "

Miller said the polygraph that Croslin-Cummings underwent in Orlando on Aug. 19 "showed huge deceptions." When Croslin-Cummmings was told about the results, "she said she wanted to be hypnotized," Miller said. "My thought was 'Now where do we go?' My hopes were that she would have passed, but the opposite happened, so we arranged for the hypnosis and a voice analysis to be done at her husband's aunt's house in Welaka."

Apparently, Croslin-Cummings leaked the news about the pending hypnosis and analysis to some of her relatives, and the word spread quickly. Miller said there were lots of people in the yard of the aunt's home during the tests and that within a day or two, a variety of reporters began requesting interviews.

The sessions were taped and have since been distributed to media outlets around the state, including The Sun. The sessions reportedly were paid for by EquuSearch and recorded by Steph Watts, who distributed copies to reporters with the approval of EquuSearch.

Among those asking for a copy of the tapes and other materials was the Sheriff's Office, which phrased its request in the form of a search warrant, but the firm immediately handed them over, EquuSearch officials said.

Croslin-Cummings' attorney, Robert Fields of Palatka, downplayed the value of the materials.

"Everyone knows that if there was any merit, polygraphs and these sorts of things would be admissible in court," Fields said.

Fields also said that his understanding from conversations he had with Croslin-Cummings was that she agreed to the testing by EquuSearch because "she was told that if she did not take the exams, they (EquuSearch) would not bring any assets to the search." Miller has denied that allegation.

"We will be in Florida very, very soon to search for Haleigh," Miller said. "I am not a detective and did not want to be in the position this has put me in."

Those close to the case said EquuSearch will launch a search this morning at an undisclosed location in Putnam County.

Croslin-Cummings' results also put her attorney in an embarrassing position.

"This all kind of hit me out of the blue," Fields said. "My advice to her was 'Don't speak to any law enforcement without speaking to me first,' and I found it hard to imagine that a private party would be playing Magnum P.I."

Seventh Judicial Circuit Assistant State Attorney Christopher Kelly gave no indication that any arrest or other legal action is imminent.

"We have been in touch with the Sheriff's Office since the beginning, but this is still under investigation, so it is still in their hands," Kelly said.

http://www.gainesville.com/article/20090828/ARTICLES/908289905/1003/NEWS04?Title=New-search-for-Haleigh-may-come-Saturday

First thing I remember about a plastic rose!!!!!

[lorettalockhorn]

« POLICE: MISTY CUMMINGS HOLDS THE KEY TO HALEIGH CUMMINGS DISAPPEARANCEDoes a Rose Hold The Clue To Where Haleigh Is??

Or is Misty Cummings sending investigators on a wild goose chase? This week, during one of several long conversations, with Misty Cummings, she revealed something that may, or may be of interest. When asked “is there anything else you can remember, in particular, is there anywhere police should be looking”, she paused and said “there’s a place that needs to be searched again.” She then gave us specific directions and said “look in the forest for a single red rose”. Ronald drove us to the location she described and when we entered into the woods as directed we found a red plastic rose, covered lightly with brush. It was an eerie moment and we quickly retreated with the intention of going directly to law enforcement, which we did. We returned later with law enforcement and without Ronald Cummings. Investigators bagged the rose and decided the area was worth being searched. The intense, detailed search with law enforcement and Texas equusearch is scheduled for tomorrow morning. I have been asked not to disclose the location, because IF this tip is actually credible, no one will attempt to tamper with the evidence...

http://stephww.wordpress.com/2009/08/28/does-a-rose-hold-the-clue-to-where-haleigh-is/

[lorettalockhorn]

First thing I remember about a plastic rose!!!!!

You'd think she would have mentioned this sooner. Hella hangover. Takes six months for her to sober up?

[SaraSidle]

You'd think she would have mentioned this sooner. Hella hangover. Takes six months for her to sober up?

Loretta ever wonder if her brain is very fried. and Not just from taking drugs. maybe she has no control over the lies and story changes. I have never heard of that before but who knows????

[lorettalockhorn]

I still do not trust them and I would not take one.

thank you for all the posts and links Loretta. I really appreciate it. sara

Would I take one if My Little Love was missing? Yes. Would I take one if someone stole the Gecko's egg salad? Hell to the no.

[SaraSidle]

Would I take one if My Little Love was missing? Yes. Would I take one if someone stole the Gecko's egg salad? Hell to the no.

You know you are making me feel bad for the gecko

[lorettalockhorn]

You know you are making me feel bad for the gecko

LMAO Well, he deserves it, he took the old man's wrinkled first dollar ever earned and bought crisps!!!!! :hat::cuss::flamemad::tongue:

[SaraSidle]

LMAO Well, he deserves it, he took the old man's wrinkled first dollar ever earned and bought crisps!!!!! :hat::cuss::flamemad::tongue:

he was a hungry gecko poor thing. if you had to eat crickets you might steal someone's dollar for food tooo

[DrewBerry]

« POLICE: MISTY CUMMINGS HOLDS THE KEY TO HALEIGH CUMMINGS DISAPPEARANCEDoes a Rose Hold The Clue To Where Haleigh Is??

Or is Misty Cummings sending investigators on a wild goose chase? This week, during one of several long conversations, with Misty Cummings, she revealed something that may, or may be of interest. When asked “is there anything else you can remember, in particular, is there anywhere police should be looking”, she paused and said “there’s a place that needs to be searched again.” She then gave us specific directions and said “look in the forest for a single red rose”. Ronald drove us to the location she described and when we entered into the woods as directed we found a red plastic rose, covered lightly with brush. It was an eerie moment and we quickly retreated with the intention of going directly to law enforcement, which we did. We returned later with law enforcement and without Ronald Cummings. Investigators bagged the rose and decided the area was worth being searched. The intense, detailed search with law enforcement and Texas equusearch is scheduled for tomorrow morning. I have been asked not to disclose the location, because IF this tip is actually credible, no one will attempt to tamper with the evidence...

http://stephww.wordpress.com/2009/08/28/does-a-rose-hold-the-clue-to-where-haleigh-is/

Thanks a bunch, Loretta for posting all the links tonight. It has saved me so much time while I try to catch up. You are awesome!
:seeya:
DrewB

[lorettalockhorn]

Y'all are very welcome for the links, the one that I haven't been able to find that I want to see/read/listen to, is GGMS and the Cummings Clan continuing to support Misty and calling all this new news a scam. :shrug:

Radio posted this link to Putnam County scanner traffic at Twitter last night, not hearing anything about the search:

http://www.radioreference.com/apps/audio/?ctid=369

If you go to google maps for directions, you will see that the area being searched this morning is less than four miles from the trailer, get directions from Green Lane to Hoot Owl Road.

[lorettalockhorn]

New Haleigh Search, Step Uncle Questioned


A comment Misty Croslin-Cummings allegedly made about investigators needing to double-check a patch of ground marked by a single plastic rose in their search for her missing stepdaughter, Haleigh Cummings, has motivated a private firm to begin scouring the area known as Hoot Owl Ridge this morning...

http://www.thesky973.com/pages/5106231.php

[lorettalockhorn]

First thing I remember about a plastic rose!!!!!

This rose doesn't appear to be faded so possibly not out in the elements for very long?

http://i32.tinypic.com/t514zm.jpg

[BeastofBears]

I think they could consider many posters on this board who would certainly be able to provide a safe environment for Jr. Even a loving environment.

Too bad DCF wouldn't think outside of the box like that. I'm sure any one of us would take a child at risk.

[BeastofBears]

LMAO Well, he deserves it, he took the old man's wrinkled first dollar ever earned and bought crisps!!!!! :hat::cuss::flamemad::tongue:

http://i32.tinypic.com/5c128l.jpg

I had nothing to do with that little dollar! How much do you think a gecko can take?!

[lorettalockhorn]

http://i32.tinypic.com/5c128l.jpg

I had nothing to do with that little dollar! How much do you think a gecko can take?!

http://i26.tinypic.com/2h2m7fp.jpg
BUSTED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And the Misty Defense won't cut it!!!!!!!!!

[ErrinSpelling]

Expert: Misty Has Doubt About Haleigh's Dad

PUTNAM COUNTY, FL -- Six months after Haleigh Cummings disappeared, Misty Croslin-Cummings re-lives those last moments with a voice analysis expert and hypnosis expert.

Cummings spent more than 20 minutes under hypnosis. Most of the time was used to describe in detail those moments when Misty woke up and realized Haleigh was gone.

"We just looked and we searched and we couldn't find her," Cummings told the hypnosis expert.

The expert says Misty wasn't totally under and the test was inconclusive.

"I gave you the truth. I gave you everything that I got. If I knew more I would tell you," Misty told the expert.

More telling was the second test Misty did that same day, a layered voice analysis.

"I don't know why I woke up. I just woke up out of a deep sleep. I just woke up," said Misty. The expert, T.J. Ward, asked, "What did you notice?" Misty replied, "The kitchen light was on. All the lights were shut off when I went to bed. That kitchen light I knew was off when I went to sleep. The kitchen light was just glaring in my bedroom. So, I got up and went to the kitchen and that's when I noticed the back door was wide open."

For the next 20 minutes, Misty had a conversation with the expert, who was able to track her stress and movements.

"Do you know of any person that would bother Haleigh?" asked Ward. Misty replied, "I really didn't know a lot of people. I have suspicions, yeah."

Police have asked us not to release that part of the tape.

But it's what Misty did say during that section that raised a red flag for the voice expert. "You have knowledge of the person who has taken Haleigh. You need to think. You need to tell me the truth because I can see changes," Ward told Misty.

While fighting back tears, Misty said, "I've been trying to think. I've been thinking for six months. I don't know. I don't know if I seen something in my sleep. I don't know."

"There's something you are not telling me. Okay, I want you to tell me about it. I can see it. There's things about Haleigh you are not telling anybody," Ward told her.

"There's nothing I'm not telling nobody. I told everybody everything that I know. I don't know what you are trying to get out of me. I'm 17 years old. What do you think, come on how much can a 17 year old take?" Misty replied.

Misty was then asked about Ronald Cummings, Haleigh's dad and her new husband. It was that questioning which puzzled the expert.

"Ronald had nothing to do with his daughter. He loves his daughter more than anything in this world," Misty told Ward.

He then told her, "When I asked you that, it came up and said you are not sure. Why is there doubt in your mind?"

Misty replied, "I don't know. I don't know if there's doubt in my mind, really Ronald didn't have nothing to do with his daughter, I can tell you that."

Ward then asked Misty, "What do you think happened to Haleigh?"

Misty replied, "I don't know what's happened to her. I mean I don't think she's dead, and I don't think she's dead at all. Everyone keeps saying she could be, I don't think Haleigh's dead."

Ward then pressed Misty a little more, asking her if someone has threatened her not to say what happened to Haleigh.

"No, nobody told me nothing to say about Haleigh or nothing. I've never been once told not to tell where Haleigh is. I wouldn't care if someone told me not to tell I would still tell. I don't care if they want to kill me. Go ahead and kill me, they can have my life for her back any day."

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/news-article.aspx?storyid=144098
:seeya: ty for all the work loretta!
i don't know why police told them to leave that part out. i watched it 12 x's,talk about ocd...other media showed it.. misty names everyone she dislikes...she said she can think of 4 people she has suspicious of (that's what it sounded like to me...i guess that's like her word pinpoint) & after the first, she says no not 4, 3: the mother's family, her brother and her cousin joe who she delightfully says has mental problems.

what does that mean ron has nothing to do with his daughter...that's what i heard too...does that mean he didn't take care of her?she also shook her head no & closed her eyes, when she was talking about that little girl being his heart & that he had nothing to do with it.

[ErrinSpelling]

oh & that part, where she said i don't know if there's doubt ..i could swear she said i don't know WHY there is doubt ,in my mind about ron hurting haleigh... she certainly sounded to me, like she was telling the man asking ?'s, that he was right.there was doubt, but she didn't know why.

[ErrinSpelling]

That seems to be more common in that state right now.

you are right: i had forgotten,that was a page right out of CA's play book.

[lorettalockhorn]

:seeya: ty for all the work loretta!
i don't know why police told them to leave that part out. i watched it 12 x's,talk about ocd...other media showed it.. misty names everyone she dislikes...she said she can think of 4 people she has suspicious of (that's what it sounded like to me...i guess that's like her word pinpoint) & after the first, she says no not 4, 3: the mother's family, her brother and her cousin joe who she delightfully says has mental problems.

what does that mean ron has nothing to do with his daughter...that's what i heard too...does that mean he didn't take care of her?she also shook her head no & closed her eyes, when she was talking about that little girl being his heart & that he had nothing to do with it.

She seems awfully deceptive to me, and honestly, it's hard to know if her choice of words and phrasing is due to lack of intelligence and simply unable to formulate a sensible sentence, or WHAT?! Agree that Ron having nothing to do with Haleigh is just awkward sounding, and she said also (I think it's this vid) that she didn't do anything with Haleigh. Does that mean she didn't do anything to harm her? Or that she didn't do anything with her corpse or unconscious body or something along those lines? Or that she didn't mess with her to somehow cause an injury or death?

[lorettalockhorn]

Saturday Morning Search for Haleigh


(Putnam County)- A search is underway this morning for clues to Haleigh Cummings' disappearance.

EquuSearch and Putnam County officials are out again after a comment by Misty Cummings revealed a possible new detail. According to the Gainesville Sun, Misty mentioned something about a fake rose and that was enough for EquuSearch to begin a new hunt for clues.

First Coast News has learned that EquuSearch is leading the operation and Putnam County officials are there to make sure everything is ok.

Misty Cummings made headlines again this week after taking independent polygraph, voice analysis and hypnotic tests to try to prove her innocence. According to Tim Miller of EquuSearch, Cummings "miserably failed" the tests. The tests were video taped and the fake rose comment was made off camera...

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/topstories/news-article.aspx?storyid=144137&catid=3

[lorettalockhorn]

Searchers look for
Haleigh and Tracy
Updated: Saturday, 29 Aug 2009, 11:57 AM EDT
Published : Saturday, 29 Aug 2009, 11:57 AM EDT

ORLANDO, Fla. (WOFL FOX 35) - Searches are underway for two of Florida’s missing people.

A team of specialized search and rescue volunteers are in Ocoee this weekend looking for clues into the disappearance of Tracy Ocasio. The 27-year-old woman went missing in May after leaving the Tap Room bar in Metrowest with James Hataway, a person of interest in her disappearance.

The Florida-3 Airboat Search and Rescue group is made up of trained search and rescue personnel. The group recently conducted a dual search for both Tracy Ocasio and Jennifer Kesse, who has been missing since 2006 from her condo near the Mall at Millenia.

Earlier this week, Ocoee Police revealed they found a black boot in the wood that they think might have belonged to Ocasio. Police also received a tip about a body in freezer bags in an abandoned animal shelter in Winter Garden, but the medical examiner determined it was just animal bones.

Members of Equusearch, the Texas-based search team, are once again searching an area near the home of Ronald Cummings, whose 4-year-old daughter Haleigh Cummings vanished from the family’s trailer in March.

Under hypnosis, Ronald Cumming’s 17-year-old wife Misty Croslin Cummings told searchers to look for Haleigh near a rose left in an undisclosed area in Putnam County.

Based on that tip, Equusearch on Saturday headed back out to Satsuma to search for leads in the case.

Fox 35 has crews at both search locations. Watch FOx 35 News at 7 and 10 for more on these developing stories.

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news/orange_news/082909_Searchers_look_for_Haleigh_and_Tracy

[lorettalockhorn]

Was just re-reading the original police report narrative, and the tracking dogs took officers in pretty much the opposite direction from where today's search is going on:

...Police initiateda track beginning at the back door and down a wooded path, as we travelled down the wooded path, we located what appeared to be asmall child's footprint in the dirt. It should be noted that Ronald said Haleigh's shoes were still located inside the residence. The track lead up to a small pond and then back to the railroad crossing. At the last residence on the right side of the Green Drive was a small building with a door which had been left open. I entered the building but found no one insire

The track then continued past the north residence, where police made a left turn on Monroe Avenue. We made another left onto Buchan Circle, which we followed in a loop back to Monroe Avenue. We then made a left onto Tyler Street, and travelled past 116 Tyler, which is a location where Misty stated she had walked with Haleigh in the past. We then made a right turn on BUffalo Bluff Road to the railroad crossing, where we found were forced to end the track, because the canonwas unable to follow it any further...

http://www.myfoxtampabay.com/dpp/news/state/missing_haleigh_police_report_021609

[old_soul]

She seems awfully deceptive to me, and honestly, it's hard to know if her choice of words and phrasing is due to lack of intelligence and simply unable to formulate a sensible sentence, or WHAT?! Agree that Ron having nothing to do with Haleigh is just awkward sounding, and she said also (I think it's this vid) that she didn't do anything with Haleigh. Does that mean she didn't do anything to harm her? Or that she didn't do anything with her corpse or unconscious body or something along those lines? Or that she didn't mess with her to somehow cause an injury or death?

Amen to that, sister! WTH, about this rose? We said it from the get go, while many were thinking this girl was just in a state about Haleigh....no, she does know much, much more and it's fricken time LE stops playing pussyfoot with the little ingrate and gets the truth out of her! Da*m! Enough!

Maybe the only way to do that is to put her under lock and key until she lets it all out. She didn't do it, but knows who is the culprit. IMO, she is afraid of Ronnie killing her for it, and she has been afraid from day one. Either she will NEVER tell, or she'll have to be broken, ala washboarding or whatever the heck it's called...

Geez.........:flamemad:

[Marian Paroo]

Either she will NEVER tell, or she'll have to be broken, ala washboarding or whatever the heck it's called...

Geez.........:flamemad:

Dream on. She is white. She is Christian. She ain't gonna be tortured.

[lorettalockhorn]

Dream on. She is white. She is Christian. She ain't gonna be tortured.

Depends on who(m) gets hold of her.

Can't help but notice that WASP seems to be a recurring theme issue of yours. :confused: White women are brutalized all the time. No race, religion or socio-economic class is exempt from abuse.

[Marian Paroo]

Depends on who(m) gets hold of her.

Can't help but notice that WASP seems to be a recurring theme issue of yours. :confused: White women are brutalized all the time. No race, religion or socio-economic class is exempt from abuse.

I admit it. And I'm not saying that white women aren't brutalized.

But usually not by the police.

By the way, there is also a tremdous double standard where I am now, as there is everywhere in the world. Look at how short a sentene Little Miss Barbie Doll (yeah, yeah, I know, plea bargain -- they were so wrapped up in her they didn't realise that she was probably the worse of the two) Holmoka(?) got in Canada.

[old_soul]

Dream on. She is white. She is Christian. She ain't gonna be tortured.

Too true, Marian...........

Just wishful thinking on my part, so that one way or another, Haleigh comes home...:rose:

(haha, it's fricken waterboarding, not washboarding) haha, still think it might be a good idea...http://i25.tinypic.com/2e55aw0.jpg

[Marian Paroo]

Too true, Marian...........

Just wishful thinking on my part, so that one way or another, Haleigh comes home...:rose:

(haha, it's fricken waterboarding, not washboarding) haha, still think it might be a good idea...http://i25.tinypic.com/2e55aw0.jpg

Jeezlouize, I was so angry I didn't even notice the "washboarding" think!

My bro had a jug band - The Bronx River Valley Boys (I don't know if they got the name from Kinky Freedman or thought of it on their own).

Someone played the washboard.

He played guitar.

[old_soul]

I admit it. And I'm not saying that white women aren't brutalized.

But usually not by the police.

By the way, there is also a tremdous double standard where I am now, as there is everywhere in the world. Look at how short a sentene Little Miss Barbie Doll (yeah, yeah, I know, plea bargain -- they were so wrapped up in her they didn't realise that she was probably the worse of the two) Holmoka(?) got in Canada.



:no: Karla didn't get a reduced sentence because of that ~ they got HIM Through her testimony, it was the only way, so that was the deal they made.

Unfortunately, there was evidence that could have put her away just like him, but they didn't get it till after the fact...Scumbag's ex atty knew about and had in his possession the video tapes of everything they did, cause they filmed everything. He didn't hand them over till after her deal was made.

There should be some kind of law that somehow should force an atty to give this info without breaking the atty client priviledge. Don't ask me how, all I know is if they have info, they should be compelled to hand it over somehow.

[old_soul]

Jeezlouize, I was so angry I didn't even notice the "washboarding" think!

My bro had a jug band - The Bronx River Valley Boys (I don't know if they got the name from Kinky Freedman or thought of it on their own).

Someone played the washboard.

He played guitar.

LOL YeeeeeeeeeeeHawwwwwwwwhttp://i28.tinypic.com/2lwt54x.jpg

Actually they named their band after my neck of the woods!:)

we have a Karla thread on here...have you gotten your teeth into that one? I have....

[lorettalockhorn]

I admit it. And I'm not saying that white women aren't brutalized.

But usually not by the police.

By the way, there is also a tremdous double standard where I am now, as there is everywhere in the world. Look at how short a sentene Little Miss Barbie Doll (yeah, yeah, I know, plea bargain -- they were so wrapped up in her they didn't realise that she was probably the worse of the two) Holmoka(?) got in Canada.



Well, Misty is in much more danger of being brutalized by Ron or his family or maybe even the public than the police, maybe they should put her in protective custody. Never said the police were likely to harm her.

As much as I think this girl is withholding information and is worsening the situation, I prefer that she is alive and well to face the music. I've been literally kicked when I was down by a man who outweighed me by more than half, he broke my ribs very easily and my Cadillac driving white arse status was no exemption. I don't wish violence on anyone.

[BeastofBears]

I admit it. And I'm not saying that white women aren't brutalized.

But usually not by the police.

By the way, there is also a tremdous double standard where I am now, as there is everywhere in the world. Look at how short a sentene Little Miss Barbie Doll (yeah, yeah, I know, plea bargain -- they were so wrapped up in her they didn't realise that she was probably the worse of the two) Holmoka(?) got in Canada.



Here's a good example: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Dik-mgCDcg

White, middle-class, clean-cut, minivan driving mom tasered in front of her kids. It happens. People who are likely to brutalize are all about the power, not necessarily about the race, religion, gender, etc.

Frankly, I would expect someone from Misty's socio-economic class to be more likely to have a problem, regardless of race, religion or gender. No power, no contacts, who would believe them, right?

imo, moo.

[old_soul]

You think she's protecting ...gulp..her brother?

Ron would definately be the one she is skeeeeeered of (what were those words we heard on the 911 call?) ITA not the PO~ LICE.

[lorettalockhorn]

You think she's protecting ...gulp..her brother?

The one she ratted out (who was questioned last night)?, or the one who tangled with Ron? Hmmm Makes you wondered if she lured him to GGMS' house that night.

[old_soul]

The one she ratted out (who was questioned last night)?, or the one who tangled with Ron? Hmmm Makes you wondered if she lured him to GGMS' house that night.

Which one is the one who she said came to the house that night? That's the one...is it Tommy that she had accusations about, right?

Hmmmm http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/mostpopular/news-article.aspx?storyid=144116&provider=top

Seems Hank Jr. doesn't like dead mutilated rats....:rolleyes:

[lorettalockhorn]

Which one is the one who she said came to the house that night? That's the one...is it Tommy that she had accusations about, right?

Hmmmm http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/mostpopular/news-article.aspx?storyid=144116&provider=top

Seems Hank Jr. doesn't like dead mutilated rats....:rolleyes:

Tommy and his wife were questioned last night. Hank Jr. is the one who rassled with Ron at GGMS'.

ETA I think Tommy is the brother who Misty lived with for years after she moved away from the parents. Whoever called her an ingrate is on the money!

[lorettalockhorn]

Updates from a searcher posted at Radio's Twitter:

* Fox35 didn't show up until about noon today and FCN showed up about 12:30

* Been out since close to 8am and finally found the staging area for today's search for HaLeigh! I'm tired and have photos for later posting.

* I mention the time of arrival for those two news media as all morning long, there was NO NEWS MEDIA at all in Satsuma OR in Welaka area..

* The staging area for the searchers, which include PCSO and TES, all on foot as far as I can tell...seen no horses or trailers in area

* Staging area on Buffalo Bluff road, Murpheys Conservatory. The actual area that they're searching is off of Tyler street,

* There is a dirt road near the beginning of Tyler street, called 3 sisters road. Off of 3 sisters road is a muddy track/road area that leads

* further back into the woods there. I believe it is there that they're searching. They have police stationed at 3 sisters/tyler

* and another police stationed at the T at Tyler/Monroe and then another one at Monroe alley/Green Lane. They're allowing no one back there

* Unless you live on the 3 sisters road itself or on Monroe alley/green lane.

* Searchers took a break for about an hour and have returned to the search area. End of report.

Ger's pics of ground search scenes in Hoot Owl Ridge area posted tonight at:: http://bit.ly/ZXmIh

This area sounds more like the route taken by the dogs the night Haleigh was taken than the Hoot Owl Road area. :shrug:

[lorettalockhorn]

Update: Saturday Search for Haleigh Over

PUTNAM COUNTY, FL -- EcuuSearch completed their Saturday search without finding Haleigh Cummings but still calling the day a success.

Along with Putnam County officials, EccuSearch spent a hot Saturday searching an area previously covered. They deemed it a success because the reaquainted themselves with an area they will soon search again.

The teams were out again after a comment by Misty Croslin-Cummings revealed a possible new detail. According to the Gainesville Sun, Croslin-Cummings mentioned something about a fake rose and that was enough for EquuSearch to begin a new hunt for clues.

First Coast News has learned that EquuSearch is leading the operation and Putnam County officials are monitoring.

Croslin-Cummings made headlines again this week after taking independent polygraph, voice analysis and hypnosis tests to try to prove her innocence. According to Tim Miller of EquuSearch, Croslin-Cummings "miserably failed" the tests. The tests were video taped and the fake rose comment was made off camera.

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/topstories/news-article.aspx?storyid=144137&catid=3

[SaraSidle]

Amen to that, sister! WTH, about this rose? We said it from the get go, while many were thinking this girl was just in a state about Haleigh....no, she does know much, much more and it's fricken time LE stops playing pussyfoot with the little ingrate and gets the truth out of her! Da*m! Enough!

Maybe the only way to do that is to put her under lock and key until she lets it all out. She didn't do it, but knows who is the culprit. IMO, she is afraid of Ronnie killing her for it, and she has been afraid from day one. Either she will NEVER tell, or she'll have to be broken, ala washboarding or whatever the heck it's called...

Geez.........:flamemad:

waterboarding............I'll hep

[SaraSidle]

Loretta do you know how many searchers are out there?

[lorettalockhorn]

Loretta do you know how many searchers are out there?

Sara, don't think there's been a head count in any of the articles that I've read today. Maybe we'll find out more from myfoxorlando, firstcoastnews, or from Ger at the link that I posted above; she has promised some pix.

[SaraSidle]

Sara, don't think there's been a head count in any of the articles that I've read today. Maybe we'll find out more from myfoxorlando, firstcoastnews, or from Ger at the link that I posted above; she has promised some pix.

Ok thanks. thought you might know with all of your posts,links and info.
Thank you very very much. sara

[wind149]

YOO HOO!! Thanks for posting Putnam's audio feed!! If anything goes down I can copy this direct and listen to their radio protocol, they kinda have one, and their ten codes are a little different then ones I am used to but I can decipher it and I heard nothing on there just now except a traffic stop with drugs involved, big surprise there in Deliverance??? And what is up with that rose?? They found nothing near it, but what if that is one of her "markers" so she can remember where she buried Haleigh??? Like go left past the rose and go straight ahead till you get to the big red rock? I just wish she would put an end to this charade!! It is more than obvious now that she has been lying all along and getting away with it and Putnam has those test results along with their own and it will go much harder on her if say she confesses two months from now that she killed Haleigh and potential jurists will already know that she been lying from day one and was not cooperating with police and that could mean the difference of receiving a death sentence or a sentence where she could get out of prison in time to still have a life and I think especially now, that she is getting closer to cracking, would be a good time to haul her skank ass in and play good cop/bad cop and reel her in Tim got her going and so far now we hear about this "supposed dream" of waking up and seeing 4 people in the home? How come she never told this crap story before?? Or this is the first time anyone is hearing about the rose??

Now I was not surprised to hear that she was sexually abused, ya only have to take a look at her trash family to know that prolly brothers and probably Daddy hopped on her, ya can hear them banjos when you see that clan?? I don't believe she was a virgin for long, I am thinking probably by age 9 somebody was hopping on her and she being ignorant, did not probably know this was wrong?? And Mama probably did not even care??? These people are even more white trash than Ron's clan, at least some of them work and all her parents do is live off the system, collect SSI and I think that is wrong to give this trash money because they are addicts and alcoholics and are ignorant? That is by their own choices, they do not have a disease like lupus, or diabetes, they just sponge off the tax payer's of FL and it is real easy to see why honey pie never went further than the 7th grade, her parents simply did not give a crap if she quit, and I guess down there in Deliverance, truant officers do not live there??

It is amazing to read posts from down there, everyone calls Satsuma Deliverance and everyone says that the whole town is made of complete scum trash, hardly anyone works, welfare and SSI being the main "career choices"??? Just by what I saw of the town on Greta, I can safely agree with them. A couple of these idiots posted and not a one could spell or good diction, one poster called Misty a "hoor" and another called Ron a "bistard" who "lacks" them "litter" "gerls" So do they even have schools there I "axed" "yer git to be of "bleedin age,. yer don go no more" God as I my witness??? But you know a lot of people who grew up with worse childhoods, rose above it and made something of themselves, in today's world, you do not have to be an ignorant, illiterate piece of trash, and these people don't even care and you got people in foreign countries where education is lacking for both boys and girls and they would kill for an opportunity to learn and succeed and because they have limited resources, they can't afford to send their kids here?? And these scum have the opportunity and don't even care, they prefer to live the way they do, sucking off the government and do not respect the law so is it any wonder why this useless little b!tch won't give up where she put Haleigh??

[ErrinSpelling]

She seems awfully deceptive to me, and honestly, it's hard to know if her choice of words and phrasing is due to lack of intelligence and simply unable to formulate a sensible sentence, or WHAT?! Agree that Ron having nothing to do with Haleigh is just awkward sounding, and she said also (I think it's this vid) that she didn't do anything with Haleigh. Does that mean she didn't do anything to harm her? Or that she didn't do anything with her corpse or unconscious body or something along those lines? Or that she didn't mess with her to somehow cause an injury or death?

maybe she did do something to haleigh and not with...i had been thinking she put haleigh in the water & if so , in a million years she wouldn't want tim to search, where she put haleigh...i wonder if they can find out where the rose came from.i guess she doesn't have a credit card & it may have cost only 1.20.imo

i was thinking the same thing bethany marshall said, but not in her words...
she used "ARROGANCE" ..i truly believe she is just evil enough to waste tim's money & time searching... she doesn't care about "that little girl". if she did she would have answered 6 months ago, when begged to......
i think she has lied for so long & is used to being believed, that she had no fear that a dumb machine, could tell she lies.

[ErrinSpelling]

YOO HOO!! Thanks for posting Putnam's audio feed!! If anything goes down I can copy this direct and listen to their radio protocol, they kinda have one, and their ten codes are a little different then ones I am used to but I can decipher it and I heard nothing on there just now except a traffic stop with drugs involved, big surprise there in Deliverance??? And what is up with that rose?? They found nothing near it, but what if that is one of her "markers" so she can remember where she buried Haleigh??? Like go left past the rose and go straight ahead till you get to the big red rock? I just wish she would put an end to this charade!! It is more than obvious now that she has been lying all along and getting away with it and Putnam has those test results along with their own and it will go much harder on her if say she confesses two months from now that she killed Haleigh and potential jurists will already know that she been lying from day one and was not cooperating with police and that could mean the difference of receiving a death sentence or a sentence where she could get out of prison in time to still have a life and I think especially now, that she is getting closer to cracking, would be a good time to haul her skank ass in and play good cop/bad cop and reel her in Tim got her going and so far now we hear about this "supposed dream" of waking up and seeing 4 people in the home? How come she never told this crap story before?? Or this is the first time anyone is hearing about the rose??

Now I was not surprised to hear that she was sexually abused, ya only have to take a look at her trash family to know that prolly brothers and probably Daddy hopped on her, ya can hear them banjos when you see that clan?? I don't believe she was a virgin for long, I am thinking probably by age 9 somebody was hopping on her and she being ignorant, did not probably know this was wrong?? And Mama probably did not even care??? These people are even more white trash than Ron's clan, at least some of them work and all her parents do is live off the system, collect SSI and I think that is wrong to give this trash money because they are addicts and alcoholics and are ignorant? That is by their own choices, they do not have a disease like lupus, or diabetes, they just sponge off the tax payer's of FL and it is real easy to see why honey pie never went further than the 7th grade, her parents simply did not give a crap if she quit, and I guess down there in Deliverance, truant officers do not live there??

It is amazing to read posts from down there, everyone calls Satsuma Deliverance and everyone says that the whole town is made of complete scum trash, hardly anyone works, welfare and SSI being the main "career choices"??? Just by what I saw of the town on Greta, I can safely agree with them. A couple of these idiots posted and not a one could spell or good diction, one poster called Misty a "hoor" and another called Ron a "bistard" who "lacks" them "litter" "gerls" So do they even have schools there I "axed" "yer git to be of "bleedin age,. yer don go no more" God as I my witness??? But you know a lot of people who grew up with worse childhoods, rose above it and made something of themselves, in today's world, you do not have to be an ignorant, illiterate piece of trash, and these people don't even care and you got people in foreign countries where education is lacking for both boys and girls and they would kill for an opportunity to learn and succeed and because they have limited resources, they can't afford to send their kids here?? And these scum have the opportunity and don't even care, they prefer to live the way they do, sucking off the government and do not respect the law so is it any wonder why this useless little b!tch won't give up where she put Haleigh??

i had assumed misty was talking about her cousin joe abusing her...she did call her parents drug addicts, during the test.

oh the rose: did misty put it there? how does she know it's there?did she take it from someone's house to implicate them?

why is she walking around in the forest? is the van scratch from this? is amber or nay nay 's car scratched from this?

[SaraSidle]

maybe she did do something to haleigh and not with...i had been thinking she put haleigh in the water & if so , in a million years she wouldn't want tim to search, where she put haleigh...i wonder if they can find out where the rose came from.i guess she doesn't have a credit card & it may have cost only 1.20.imo

i was thinking the same thing bethany marshall said, but not in her words...
she used "ARROGANCE" ..i truly believe she is just evil enough to waste tim's money & time searching... she doesn't care about "that little girl". if she did she would have answered 6 months ago, when begged to......
i think she has lied for so long & is used to being believed, that she had no fear that a dumb machine, could tell she lies.

wow Errin your post makes her sound like Casey........:eek:

[ErrinSpelling]

wow Errin your post makes her sound like Casey........:eek:

:eek: uh oh i think you're right sara...casey is used to g & c believing her lies.they got mad at tim too..only wanted him to search for a live caylee.
i don't remember if it was bethany or pat, who said misty is detached, calling haleigh " that little girl".

[lorettalockhorn]

YOO HOO!! Thanks for posting Putnam's audio feed!! If anything goes down I can copy this direct and listen to their radio protocol, they kinda have one, and their ten codes are a little different then ones I am used to but I can decipher it and I heard nothing on there just now except a traffic stop with drugs involved, big surprise there in Deliverance??? And what is up with that rose?? They found nothing near it, but what if that is one of her "markers" so she can remember where she buried Haleigh??? Like go left past the rose and go straight ahead till you get to the big red rock? I just wish she would put an end to this charade!! It is more than obvious now that she has been lying all along and getting away with it and Putnam has those test results along with their own and it will go much harder on her if say she confesses two months from now that she killed Haleigh and potential jurists will already know that she been lying from day one and was not cooperating with police and that could mean the difference of receiving a death sentence or a sentence where she could get out of prison in time to still have a life and I think especially now, that she is getting closer to cracking, would be a good time to haul her skank ass in and play good cop/bad cop and reel her in Tim got her going and so far now we hear about this "supposed dream" of waking up and seeing 4 people in the home? How come she never told this crap story before?? Or this is the first time anyone is hearing about the rose??

Now I was not surprised to hear that she was sexually abused, ya only have to take a look at her trash family to know that prolly brothers and probably Daddy hopped on her, ya can hear them banjos when you see that clan?? I don't believe she was a virgin for long, I am thinking probably by age 9 somebody was hopping on her and she being ignorant, did not probably know this was wrong?? And Mama probably did not even care??? These people are even more white trash than Ron's clan, at least some of them work and all her parents do is live off the system, collect SSI and I think that is wrong to give this trash money because they are addicts and alcoholics and are ignorant? That is by their own choices, they do not have a disease like lupus, or diabetes, they just sponge off the tax payer's of FL and it is real easy to see why honey pie never went further than the 7th grade, her parents simply did not give a crap if she quit, and I guess down there in Deliverance, truant officers do not live there??

It is amazing to read posts from down there, everyone calls Satsuma Deliverance and everyone says that the whole town is made of complete scum trash, hardly anyone works, welfare and SSI being the main "career choices"??? Just by what I saw of the town on Greta, I can safely agree with them. A couple of these idiots posted and not a one could spell or good diction, one poster called Misty a "hoor" and another called Ron a "bistard" who "lacks" them "litter" "gerls" So do they even have schools there I "axed" "yer git to be of "bleedin age,. yer don go no more" God as I my witness??? But you know a lot of people who grew up with worse childhoods, rose above it and made something of themselves, in today's world, you do not have to be an ignorant, illiterate piece of trash, and these people don't even care and you got people in foreign countries where education is lacking for both boys and girls and they would kill for an opportunity to learn and succeed and because they have limited resources, they can't afford to send their kids here?? And these scum have the opportunity and don't even care, they prefer to live the way they do, sucking off the government and do not respect the law so is it any wonder why this useless little b!tch won't give up where she put Haleigh??

Charade pretty well sums it up! Hellllllllloooooooo Either Ron and/or Misty put the rose out in the forest (Misty knows that word?!?), or they knew about it and didn't report it. And if they didn't place the red herring, er uh, red rose out in the sticks but saw someone else do it, what were they doing there? And WTH is Misty to comment on the fact that the area wasn't well searched before?

You know, illiterates don't irk me per se; just think back to HI and Ed in Raising Arizona. Now there were two idiots who had a more substantial philosophy than the average God fearing, church going, American Express carrying college graduate, but these Putnam County people are beyond belief. No one with any credibility has seen anything? Or are too stoned to remember?

Where's Haleigh?!

[lorettalockhorn]

:eek: uh oh i think you're right sara...casey is used to g & c believing her lies.they got mad at tim too..only wanted him to search for a live caylee.
i don't remember if it was bethany or pat, who said misty is detached, calling haleigh " that little girl".

Hell, Ron rarely calls Haleigh by her name. Keep waiting for the headshrinks to comment on that one.

[lorettalockhorn]

Nothing found in search for Haleigh and Tracy

ORLANDO, Fla. (WOFL FOX 35. Orlando) - Search crews hit the ground running Saturday for two of Florida’s missing people.

A team of specialized search and rescue volunteers were in Ocoee this weekend looking for clues into the disappearance of Tracy Ocasio. The 27-year-old woman went missing in May after leaving the Tap Room bar in Metrowest with James Hataway, a person of interest in her disappearance...

...As for Haleigh Cummings, members of Equusearch, the Texas-based search team, once again searched an area near the home of her father Ronald Cummings. The 5-year-old vanished from the family’s trailer in March.

Under hypnosis, Ronald Cumming’s 17-year-old wife Misty Croslin Cummings told searchers to look for Haleigh near a rose left in an undisclosed area in Putnam County.

Based on that tip, Equusearch on Saturday headed back out to Satsuma to search for leads in the case, but nothing was found. Watch FOX 35 News at 10 p.m. for in depth look at both stories.

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news/orange_news/082909_Searchers_look_for_Haleigh_and_Tracy

[lorettalockhorn]

Blogging From San Fransico
August 29, 2009 by Steph
Just landed in SF California. Another state another case

Much to no ones suprise, the search today in the Haleigh Cummings case based off of a tip by Misty Cummings turned up nothing.



Misty Cummings Interviews EXCLUSIVE
August 29, 2009 by Steph
I will uploading the interviews I shot this week with Misty Cummings in their entirety. See what happened before the interview started and what happened after they were over…great behind the scene footage!!!!! Stand By

http://stephww.wordpress.com/

[lorettalockhorn]

>>great behind the scene footage!!!!! Stand By

WATT THE ????

[lorettalockhorn]

Efforts continue in Haleigh Cummings' disappearance
No results from search, and no response from Sheriff's Office.

There was a flurry of activity related to the disappearance of Haleigh Cummings over the weekend.

The Putnam County Sheriff's Office interviewed Misty Cummings' brother and his wife Friday evening, and searchers on horseback continued the hunt for the missing Putnam County kindergartner Saturday morning at a plot of land near the Palatka home where she last seen in February.

The search yielded no results. The Sheriff's Office didn't respond to multiple calls for comment about the interviews.

Crystal Sheffield, Haleigh Cumming's mother, said she heard from investigators that Tommy Croslin and his wife were brought in for questioning because of comments from Misty Cummings, 17, wife of Haleigh's father, Ronald.

"They were checking up about some things she had told police," Sheffield said.

She added the interviews each lasted a few hours.

The 30-person search was undertaken by EquuSearch, a Texas group that specializes in tracking down missing children and was involved with the Caylee Anthony case.

EquuSearch founder Tim Miller said the search was planned in advance, and Cummings suggested the location because she believed the 6-acre wooded plot hadn't been thoroughly searched.

Cummings has been under intense scrutiny after a series of poor results on different tests, such as voice analysis, administered by Miller. Those results went public shortly after authorities issued a release that said physical evidence contradicts where she told detectives she was when the girl vanished. Lt. Johnny Greenwood of the Putnam County Sheriff's Office told the Times-Union earlier this month that Misty Cummings knows more than she is letting on, but she isn't considered a suspect...

http://www.jacksonville.com/news/metro/2009-08-30/story/efforts_continue_in_haleigh_cummings_disappearance

[lorettalockhorn]

Details of July order:

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/document-preview.aspx?doc_id=9917966&key=YmU2OWJlYmYt&pass=NmUxNy00Mzgy

[Amy]

Details of July order:

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/document-preview.aspx?doc_id=9917966&key=YmU2OWJlYmYt&pass=NmUxNy00Mzgy

Thanks for the link, and for all the others you supply.

Pretty detailed with that. It sounds pretty fair. Wouldn't be a bad thing for more visitation issues to be written in such a manner. I remember the carp that went on between sis and her ex about transportation for visitation.

I wonder if Crystal had felt there were times she had "communicated" w/Ron via Teresa and/or GGMS that Ron either wasn't advised of, or pretended he didn't know about. Or, if Ron (and/or Misti) would just prefer Crystal communicate w/the gmothers instead of Ron. Or, if Crystal would prefer to not speak to Ron. I do notice that communicating w/Misti is not an option. And that there is no reciprical alternate communication contact on Crystal's side.

From what I could gather, Jr has been spending more weekends this summer @ Crystal's to make up for any weekends she didn't get after Haleigh disappeared? I seem to get from posts that Jr has been @ Crystal's a lot since she returned home, but mostly that is reading between the lines.

[wind149]

Do you all remember when Jessie Davis of Canton OH went missing and LE was saying from the onslaught that Bobby Cutts Jr was not a suspect or even a person of interest and lo and behold, a week after they say this, Cutts cops to it, is charged with capital murder, convicted and received a 56-life sentence meaning he will be eligible to parole when he is 87 years old? Now, I think that Putnam is trying to put all their ducks in a row, and with 4 polygraphs and a voice stress test indicating that she is lying through her tooth, they are probably going to make a move at some point and she better start praying because it is all going to crash and burn and she will be sitting in a jail cell awaiting trial just like Casey is. There is no way she is going to avoid prison, LE charged Casey with child neglect and abuse in the disappearance of Caylee shortly after this came to light, and then charged her with murder and then once the body was found, they upgraded that to 1st degree capital murder which carries the DP. Now we all ready saw and know that Misty is getting desperate, and she is highly pissed off that TM released the findings on the polygraph to the media and then the VS test as well was released and she is blaming everyone now, including her own brother and she is grasping at straws as even in her little cabbage brain, she knows the end is near for her and boy, would I not want to be her!

What I can't understand is why the Scummings are still letting her in the fold, I would kick her sorry lying ass to the curb, but a poster in FL thinks that Ron has known from day one where Haleigh is and he bases it on his response to the 911 operator, that while he sounded a tad panicked, he thinks part of it was rehearsed, like he and Misty were trying to get their stories straight? And the bed bothers a lot of people including me. Who gets up in the middle of the night to make a bed when your man works the night shift and will be coming home to get into it? And in a panic when your child is missing, does anyone make a bed??? NOT! Not only was Haleigh not in it that night, neither was she!!! And the rose has everyone buzzing, and lots of people think it is a marker like I suggested, she put it there to see if anyone has disturbed the area and say moved it, then she would know that someone is going to find Haleigh's body?? And maybe she moved it?

I expect that her body will be found shortly, cops are searching an area again that she mentioned while under hypnosis, but she wasn't totally under, but with her lack of brain cells, maybe she was under as best as someone like her can be? I admit I am not up on hypnosis, but some people can probably fudge that too? My only knowledge of this is what I have seen on crime shows as my Sheriff did not believe it, he called it hocus pokus and said it was not reliable enough to use as a LE tool? I wonder if she is arrested if Ron and his clan would stand behind her even if she is charged with murder? I think she is more afraid of him than LE?

[SaraSidle]

I wonder if Sodium Pentathol would have made a difference?

[SaraSidle]

What is up with the red plastic rose? very very irritating case now.

I agree with you wind on your points. I believe she is more afraid of Ron than anyone although I suspect her family now and then.

I wonder if LE is playing her like Susan Smith was played. It is taking a long time if they are. IMO sara

[lorettalockhorn]

Reporter's Notes: In Defense of Misty Cummings?

TJ Hart


The Facts

The last couple of weeks have been very busy covering the disappearance of 6-year-old Haleigh Cummings of Satsuma, FL. She was last seen by her babysitter-now stepmother Misty Croslin-Cummings on February 9, 2009 in her father's mobile home in Hermit's Cove area of Satsuma.

On August 17, 2009 --Haleigh's 6th birthday--The Putnam County Sheriff's Office issued a press release to inform the public that their office, the Florida Dept. of Law Enforcement and the FBI have been working non-stop on the case and to make some very big statements:

This was not a stranger abduction
Anyone who wants to help in the search for Haleigh may do so within the parameters of their legal authority
Requests for anyone in the public who may know anything of Misty Croslin-Cummings whereabouts the night of Haleigh's abduction to come forward with that information to police
The statement regarding the belief that Haleigh was taken by someone known to the family is theory that has been floating through the community since the day the child disappeared.

The statement welcoming other searchers came on the same day that Haleigh's paternal grandmother, Teresa Neves, along with attorney Mark Nejame and Texas EquuSearch Director Tim Miller announced the would be working on behalf of the Cummings family to conduct additional searches for Haleigh in the weeks ahead.

However, it was the last statement in the press release issued by the Putnam County Sheriff's Office asking members of the public to come forward with any information on Misty Croslin-Cummings' whereabouts the night of the abduction that got things moving in high gear.

I brought that part of the statement to light on News/Talk 97.3 The SKY on CNN/Headline News' Nancy Grace Show shortly after that press release was issued...

http://www.thesky973.com/pages/5109076.php

[lorettalockhorn]

>>I brought that part of the statement to light on News/Talk 97.3 The SKY on CNN/Headline News' Nancy Grace Show shortly after that press release was issued.

HUH? Sorry, TJ, but those of us who can read and/or aren't hearing impaired noted the statement and its parts without your expert guidance. :rolleyes:

This case is such a sh!t magnet.

[lorettalockhorn]

From TJ Hart's farticle:

...* Suppose someone Misty had come in contact with the night of the abduction pulled a weapon on her
* Suppose this person or persons told her she and/or Haleigh will be killed if she said anything
* Suppose you are a 17-year-old girl who had been abused in the past and now this happened to you
* Suppose your fear of getting killed is suddenly your biggest concern
* Suppose you don’t have the intellectual resources to be able to inform authorities without getting yourself killed

Perhaps Misty doesn’t need a lawyer or jail time or another polygraph right now. Perhaps she needs an advocate...

Yeah, yeah, yeah any of these reasons/excuses/extenuating circumstances might have made sense SIX months ago, but that water is under the bridge. blah, blah, blah I sure LE and the DA would have been glad to offer Misty protection in return for Haleigh's life, safety and well-being. But at this point Misty's choices as a pseudo adult are her responsibility and her situation has a lot to do with "the company you keep".

And THIS didn't happen to Misty. It happened to Haleigh.

[Woostock]

Where is he getting off with excusing Misty? I am concerned about Haleigh, does he know Haleigh is missing and it happened on Misty's watch....
What about her timeline? changing stories?, etc. Misty needs to stand up at the plate and tell the truth of what happened that night/evening and tell the truth and only the truth...

[wind149]

If someone had taken Haleigh regardless if this was someone she was scared of, would she not have told Ron? And then they would have made more lsense to the 911 operator? No one took this little girl unless she sold her to someone like a trafficker, but the they usually want kids of both sexes ,the sick twisted freaks they are? I found out that Putnam CO is monitoring comments mde at FCN and WJXT and some people have commented that they had indeed gotten admissions from people, but they are not saying anything publicly about what info they have got ten and I think that is wise, but several posters are still saying that Ron knows more than he has ever said and they have said he passed the LDT, but no one knows what Misty has told him? I think they are giving her enough rope and IMO she has already hung herself and is so dumb she does not even realize? She will be named a POI at some point and a suspect as well, but internally, maybe amongst themselves they are already and I do see prison in her future, the big question is, how much time will she pull? I still say NOW, that it was no accident and I base this on her deception? I think that either Haleigh saw her banging that black dude and she killed her to keep her mouth shut, or she meant to drive her head into a coffee table what about the blankets she washed? Was there blood on them and did Putnam take them as evidence? We don't know?

[lorettalockhorn]

If someone had taken Haleigh regardless if this was someone she was scared of, would she not have told Ron? And then they would have made more lsense to the 911 operator? No one took this little girl unless she sold her to someone like a trafficker, but the they usually want kids of both sexes ,the sick twisted freaks they are? I found out that Putnam CO is monitoring comments mde at FCN and WJXT and some people have commented that they had indeed gotten admissions from people, but they are not saying anything publicly about what info they have got ten and I think that is wise, but several posters are still saying that Ron knows more than he has ever said and they have said he passed the LDT, but no one knows what Misty has told him? I think they are giving her enough rope and IMO she has already hung herself and is so dumb she does not even realize? She will be named a POI at some point and a suspect as well, but internally, maybe amongst themselves they are already and I do see prison in her future, the big question is, how much time will she pull? I still say NOW, that it was no accident and I base this on her deception? I think that either Haleigh saw her banging that black dude and she killed her to keep her mouth shut, or she meant to drive her head into a coffee table what about the blankets she washed? Was there blood on them and did Putnam take them as evidence? We don't know?

If Misty is afraid of anyone, it's got to be Ron, so it wouldn't surprise me if she lies to him. (Likewise it wouldn't surprise me if he lies to her and BOTH lie to LE.) The SO may be saying that Ron&Misty aren't suspects, but I don't believe it for a minute, Idaho LE said the same about Robert Manwill's mother and her boyfriend pretty much right up until they were arrested. I don't believe for a minute that Ron is actually in the clear. :shrug:

I feel better about Putnam County's investigation here lately now that they've let some information out, and I feel sure that since they took the door and the cinder block for forensics that they also took the bedding. I would hope that if people have information about Misty's whereabouts that they will at least anonymously report it to be verified as possible. And I'm not sure why people would be afraid of Ron, surely LE is watching him like a hawk (although there is that Rat Gate thing!). OR is Ron involved in some drug syndicate and if he acts out in revenge for pointing the finger at Misty, will his mob brothers kill the witness?

What about Haleigh? What is going on in Satsuma/Putnam County that is so much more important than finding Haleigh dead or alive??

[lorettalockhorn]

Where is he getting off with excusing Misty? I am concerned about Haleigh, does he know Haleigh is missing and it happened on Misty's watch....
What about her timeline? changing stories?, etc. Misty needs to stand up at the plate and tell the truth of what happened that night/evening and tell the truth and only the truth...

TJH has a lot of noive if you ask me; making a case for Misty by virtue of her lousy life and upbringing. Tee You Uff Uff. At this point she has made her bed and she can lie (LITERALLY) in it. And I guess a big part of what honks me off about Hart is his self-congratulation over having brought anything to our attention. We can read and Nancy Grace is not the only news source on this case. It pisses me off too that he and the likes of Simon Barrett have been cautioning people about unscrupulous reporters also; neither one of them are exactly Walter Cronkite. I've never read Simon's background in reporting or radio broadcasting, and TJ's isn't that big a deal.

Okay, that's two things.

[lorettalockhorn]

The heat is on in the case of missing Florida girl Haleigh Cummings. The police zero in on the 17-year-old stepmother of the missing child and the suspicion around her intensifies as she fails a polygraph and a voice stress analysis test. Does she hold the key to crack this case? Also, Michael Jackson's death has been ruled a homicide, will the doc that injected the King of Pop with a lethal dose of drugs soon be under lock? Finally tonight we get the very latest in the shocking case of Caylee Anthony allegedly murdered by her own mother. The panel includes: Investigative reporter Art Harris, Fmr. Prosecutor Robin Sax, Prosecutor Eleanor Dixon and Defense attorney Mickey Sherman...

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/levipage

Links on page.

[lorettalockhorn]

...I will put this offer on the table. And it is clearly aimed at one person. Leonard is prepared to pay for expenses, he is happy to pay for tickets to meet in Canada, which might be a smart idea. All you have to do is reach out. Leonard, TJ, Cobra, myself, we are easy to find, if you want to take advantage of this offer, get hold of one of us. I know that we are not looking for retribution, we are looking for justice...

http://www.bloggernews.net/122062

[lorettalockhorn]

Did we read that Misty recently got her DL? It'd be a shame for her not to be able to take Lenny up on his offer because she's undocumented, or run into trouble getting back into the U.S.

[SaraSidle]

Did we read that Misty recently got her DL? It'd be a shame for her not to be able to take Lenny up on his offer because she's undocumented, or run into trouble getting back into the U.S.

but she needs her protection!!!!!!:rolleyes:

[One2Snoop]

Did we read that Misty recently got her DL? It'd be a shame for her not to be able to take Lenny up on his offer because she's undocumented, or run into trouble getting back into the U.S.

Did I read that right? Padilla has attempted to insert himself in the Haleigh case? :confused:

[lorettalockhorn]

Did I read that right? Padilla has attempted to insert himself in the Haleigh case? :confused:


Yes. Diagnosis: Spotlitis Enviosis.

[samanthajane13]

"Misty: The kitchen light was on…from where my bedroom is, the kitchen, all the lights were shut off when I went to bed…that kitchen light I knew was off when I went to sleep, so the kitchen light was just glaring into my bedroom. So I got up and went to the kitchen, that’s when I noticed the back door was open...the screen door is held open by a big concrete block…I started freaking out then. I didn’t know Haleigh was gone yet. So I run back into my bedroom and grab my phone to call Ronald to ask him like hey, did you come home and leave the back door open? Because I was freaking out the back door’s open with kids, freaking out already, then I run back and tried to call him, and that’s when she was gone….then I just start freaking out…looking under closets, beds, everywhere screaming her name…couldn’t find her."


Excuse me for bringing this old crap up, but I'm about a month behind on the Haleigh and Caylee cases.

But I noticed this tonight while I was reading backwards through the threads.

Now, wouldn't it really suck rocks of Ron HAD been home and did something to Haleigh, and had set Misty up because she's dumber than a box of rocks???

And doesn't want Ron Jr. in counseling because he possibly saw something, and might repeat it to the counselor??

And he married Misty, thinking it would keep her from testifying against HIM, instead of the other way around??

Maybe Ron ain't as "simple" as everyone takes him for...

[One2Snoop]

Yes. Diagnosis: Spotlitis Enviosis.

Thought so. Thanks. :seeya:

[lorettalockhorn]

"Misty: The kitchen light was on…from where my bedroom is, the kitchen, all the lights were shut off when I went to bed…that kitchen light I knew was off when I went to sleep, so the kitchen light was just glaring into my bedroom. So I got up and went to the kitchen, that’s when I noticed the back door was open...the screen door is held open by a big concrete block…I started freaking out then. I didn’t know Haleigh was gone yet. So I run back into my bedroom and grab my phone to call Ronald to ask him like hey, did you come home and leave the back door open? Because I was freaking out the back door’s open with kids, freaking out already, then I run back and tried to call him, and that’s when she was gone….then I just start freaking out…looking under closets, beds, everywhere screaming her name…couldn’t find her."


Excuse me for bringing this old crap up, but I'm about a month behind on the Haleigh and Caylee cases.

But I noticed this tonight while I was reading backwards through the threads.

Now, wouldn't it really suck rocks of Ron HAD been home and did something to Haleigh, and had set Misty up because she's dumber than a box of rocks???

And doesn't want Ron Jr. in counseling because he possibly saw something, and might repeat it to the counselor??

And he married Misty, thinking it would keep her from testifying against HIM, instead of the other way around??

Maybe Ron ain't as "simple" as everyone takes him for...

Who you calling everyone?!?! :hat:

Anything is possible in this case, you can't read a paragraph without finding lies and conflicting statements. For instance, the kitchen light would not glare into the bedroom even with a 100 watt bulb in the fixture. Ron stated that the bed was made, so where was Misty sleeping/lying down? On the floor? And what's up with Misty thinking Ron would have come home during his work hours? Is that typical? If it is, then that could very well be why LE has stated that Ron was at work, but hasn't elaborated about when he clocked in and out and whether or not he was witnessed completing his shift.

Good to see you back. :seeya:

[samanthajane13]

Thanks, Loretta!!!

Between the 15 day escape to Mom's air-conditioned house earlier in the month, and all the friggin' news coming out, I've been busier than a one-legged man in an azz-kickin' contest.

I'm so far behind in the Haleigh Caylee cases that MAYBE I'll be caught up before Misty's arrested and goes to trial and the Skank get her pentathol cocktail.

If only all you people wouldn't type so fast and post so frequently...:(

[Amy]

"Misty: The kitchen light was on…from where my bedroom is, the kitchen, all the lights were shut off when I went to bed…that kitchen light I knew was off when I went to sleep, so the kitchen light was just glaring into my bedroom. So I got up and went to the kitchen, that’s when I noticed the back door was open...the screen door is held open by a big concrete block…I started freaking out then. I didn’t know Haleigh was gone yet. So I run back into my bedroom and grab my phone to call Ronald to ask him like hey, did you come home and leave the back door open? Because I was freaking out the back door’s open with kids, freaking out already, then I run back and tried to call him, and that’s when she was gone….then I just start freaking out…looking under closets, beds, everywhere screaming her name…couldn’t find her."


Excuse me for bringing this old crap up, but I'm about a month behind on the Haleigh and Caylee cases.

But I noticed this tonight while I was reading backwards through the threads.

Now, wouldn't it really suck rocks of Ron HAD been home and did something to Haleigh, and had set Misty up because she's dumber than a box of rocks???

And doesn't want Ron Jr. in counseling because he possibly saw something, and might repeat it to the counselor??

And he married Misty, thinking it would keep her from testifying against HIM, instead of the other way around??

Maybe Ron ain't as "simple" as everyone takes him for...

Good points there.

I see she forgot all about getting up to go to the bathroom in this version. To read this, it sounds like the light from the kitchen glaring into the bedroom would be what woke her up. If that is so, unless Ron was working in the dark, he wouldn't have had much time to get to Haleigh and remove her before the glare of the light would awaken Misti. Unless he was counting on her being very, very asleep. I can't figure out tho, why Ron would come home and take Haleigh--for what reason? Not to just set Misti up to get in trouble?

[lorettalockhorn]

The bed was against the north wall of the master bedroom according to the tour featured on NG. How is it possible that the light was glaring into the room? Was Misty sleeping in the living room doorway?

http://i32.tinypic.com/90pzx4.jpg

This is just another example of Misty's "inconsistencies". I guess what some might call half-truths, what most people would call lies. Maybe the thing to do would be to take each of her versions of what happened that night and completely rule out the conflicting statements. Which may be how LE has coe to the conclusion that Misty wasn't home when Haleigh disappeared.

[lorettalockhorn]

Posted: Monday, 31 August 2009 6:00AM

Bounty Hunter Padilla Makes Open Offer to Haleigh's Stepmom

TJ Hart


After a busy week in the Haleigh Cummings abduction case where the last person to see the 6-year-old Satsuma girl who's been missing since February failed her 4th polygraph, a Bounty Hunter involved in the Caylee Anthony case Sunday made an open offer to assist Misty Croslin Cummings, on a radio program.

Bloggernews.net's Simon and Jan Barrett host a weekly internet radio show on Sunday afternoons at 4pm ET where the topic has been the disappearance of Haleigh Cummings. This Sunday's panel included Emmy Award-winning journalist Art Harris, crime author Denny Griffin, Private Investigator WIlliam "Cobra" Staubs, Bounty Hunter Leonard Padilla and me, WSKY's TJ Hart.

The program recapped the week's events including Misty's failed polygraph test and other tests that she requested Texas EquuSearch to conduct in an attempt to clear her name, accusations her brother Tommy may have been connected and his subsequent questioning and a fruitless ground search on a piece of land marked by a plastic rose.

After the recap, I challenged listeners to think for a moment from the perspective of Misty whose life has impacted by sexual abuse at the hands of family members, a low level of education, being raised by drug addicted parents and who just might have been threatened with lethal force the night of Haleigh's abduction. I also brought up the idea that Misty might not need another polygraph or an attorney, but rather and advocate.

At that point of the program, host Simon Barrett injected Bounty Hunter Leonard Padilla into the conversation. Padilla agreed that Misty probably needs a friend right now.

I asked Padilla if he had any suggestions. He responded by offering his help to Misty if she wanted it.

Padilla suggested taking her away from her surroundings for safety reasons--perhaps flying her to Canada in order to get some straight answers and to provide her an attorney.

Journalist Art Harris added that Misty is fragile, scared and might be suffering from a form of Stockholm Syndrone righ now.

Leonard Padilla is also a figure in the Caylee Anthony case in Orlando...

http://www.thesky973.com/pages/5116339.php

[lorettalockhorn]

Let the power of the Lord prevail today, it will be in God's will if Haleigh is found. I just hope she is found alive. I think maybe Misty is tired of carrying all the weight on her shoulders, and is finally telling the story in bits and pieces. Who is in the midst of the hole thing but dear ol' Ronald and isn't funny that Tim Miller tried to get the Croslins to drop charges against Ronald.

If the Croslin family reads my page please know that my heart goes out to you. because I know how it feels to have a duaghter controled by Ronald. Everything you are experiencing is nothing knew for me, he kept mine from me until she couldn't take no more in 2005 and came home to me. Putnam County is the reason Crystal doesn't have her children and the persons working in that court house are to blame. Everytime Crystal wlaks into the Court House someone in their calls Granny S. and tells her and they are right their to make sure their papers go in first before Crystals.

People living in Putnam County beware of those life long friends if your not from there because they will chew you up and spit you out.

Marie

http://blogs.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendId=482562836&blogId=507809575

[lorettalockhorn]

Another search for Haleigh Cummings, Saturday, turned up no new leads in Putnam County.
EquuSearch scoured an area they've already searched, and said they'll search it again soon.

The teams were back out after Misty Croslin-Cummings revealed a possible new detail during an interview done by a private investigator.

According to the Gainesville Sun, she mentioned something about a fake rose.

Misty was the last person to see Haleigh before she disappeared from her Satsuma home.

A private investigator gave her several lie detector tests last week, which he says she failed.

http://wokv.com/localnews/2009/08/another-search-for-haleigh-cum.html

[Nawny]

I didn't follow that case. I suppose it could be as someone else had posted, they drank @ the same table, but possibly didn't "know" each other. Perhaps Couey just gathered information for later use during those times. Such as, I suppose as the night(s) grew later, and with more and more drinks being downed, Lunsford might have talked about his habit of spending the night w/the girlfriend. Might even had divulged information about his parents--were they hard of hearing? Which would give one reason to think they might not hear an entry being made. Did he reveal where his parents slept in relation to where Jessica did? A few nights of loose lips might give someone who is just kind of sitting there, taking it all in, a few ideas.

You have some good theories there. Who knows what goes on in a local pub? Seems like he knew of him at least. ????? From what I hear in Inverness, Fl. Lunsford wasn't well liked. Rumors fly around like bats in those small towns.

[Nawny]

I wonder if Sodium Pentathol would have made a difference?

I agreeeeeee.. and think it would. I don't know why they don't use that. I don't believe hypnosis is of any value. I can't be hypnotised. It just doesn't work. IMO

[Nawny]

What is up with the red plastic rose? very very irritating case now.

I agree with you wind on your points. I believe she is more afraid of Ron than anyone although I suspect her family now and then.

I wonder if LE is playing her like Susan Smith was played. It is taking a long time if they are. IMO sara


Yep!

I wish they'd just take her into custody Sara. They should break her wide open and get to the meat of this crime. This is all BS, so far. I remember Beth Holloway pushed so hard they eventually arrested Vandersloot and his goofy friend and they were just too smart to cave, but Misty is far from smart, they'll get her. IMO As so many here, I believe she had company that night.

[Nawny]

The heat is on in the case of missing Florida girl Haleigh Cummings. The police zero in on the 17-year-old stepmother of the missing child and the suspicion around her intensifies as she fails a polygraph and a voice stress analysis test. Does she hold the key to crack this case? Also, Michael Jackson's death has been ruled a homicide, will the doc that injected the King of Pop with a lethal dose of drugs soon be under lock? Finally tonight we get the very latest in the shocking case of Caylee Anthony allegedly murdered by her own mother. The panel includes: Investigative reporter Art Harris, Fmr. Prosecutor Robin Sax, Prosecutor Eleanor Dixon and Defense attorney Mickey Sherman...

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/levipage

Links on page.


Thank you!

[lorettalockhorn]

>>perhaps flying her to Canada in order to get some straight answers and to provide her an attorney.

Dunno, Misty doesn't seem that sophisticated to me, do we think that she has a passport or travel documents to fly in and/or out of Canada?

Gee, Lenny. This idea sounds half-baked to me. (Not to mention it seems deranged to make such an offer in such a public way if you're trying to save her Stockholm Syndrome Self.)

[SaraSidle]

>>perhaps flying her to Canada in order to get some straight answers and to provide her an attorney.

Dunno, Misty doesn't seem that sophisticated to me, do we think that she has a passport or travel documents to fly in and/or out of Canada?

Gee, Lenny. This idea sounds half-baked to me. (Not to mention it seems deranged to make such an offer in such a public way if you're trying to save her Stockholm Syndrome Self.)

Yes this is definitely a new line of interrogation. why Canada? Now if it was Bahamas I would go. I am sure she does not have passport but with the right connections you can get one in a hurry. What will Padilla think of next.......never mind not sure I want to know. IMO sara

[SaraSidle]

[/B]


Yep!

I wish they'd just take her into custody Sara. They should break her wide open and get to the meat of this crime. This is all BS, so far. I remember Beth Holloway pushed so hard they eventually arrested Vandersloot and his goofy friend and they were just too smart to cave, but Misty is far from smart, they'll get her. IMO As so many here, I believe she had company that night.

And in the end Beth did get her man!!! Misti sure is different. I cannot believe she has not broken down at this point!!!!:cuss:sara

[lorettalockhorn]

>>TJ Hart is scheduled to appear on HLN's Nancy Grace tonight at 8pm ET regarding the lastest in the abduction of Haleigh Cummings.
about 3 hours ago from web

>>Right now, WSKY is waiting for a statement from Ronald Cummings' attorneys at 3pm in St. Augustine.
about 3 hours ago from web

>>TJ Hart will likely recap the TES ground search Saturday and the PCSO questioning of Misty Cummings' brother tonight on HLN's Nancy Grace
about 3 hours ago from web

http://twitter.com/THESKY973DOTCOM

[lorettalockhorn]

New Interview, Search In Haleigh Case
Now 6-Year-Old Girl Disappeared In February

Investigators with the Putnam County Sheriff's Office conducted another interview and took part in another search over the weekend as they look for clues in the disappearance of Haleigh Cummings.

Officials said both were prompted by a private lie detector test given to Misty Cummings earlier this month.

Investigators spoke with Tommy Croslin, the brother of Misty Cummings. They interviewed him regarding comments Cummings made while she was being questioned during the lie detector test given by a private investigator.

Channel 4 was told that the test was set up through Equusearch, a search team that has helped in the efforts to find Haleigh.

Saturday, the Putnam County Sheriff's Office took part in a search with members of Equusearch. The search focused on an area mentioned by Cummings during the lie detector tests.

The sheriff's office said neither the interview, nor the search, provided investigators with any new information. Investigators also reviewed the videotapes of the latest lie detector tests, looking for any new leads in the case.

Investigators have said there has been no sign of Haleigh Cummings, now 6 years old, since she disappeared in February.

Anyone with information about Haleigh's disappearance is asked to call Crimestoppers at 888-277-TIPS.

http://www.news4jax.com/news/20648199/detail.html

[wind149]

There is no half truth regarding the kitchen light! Months ago, Teresa was with that NG reporter in the home and you can not see the light of the kitchen from thart bedroom, you have to go into the living room so right there is lie number one? And first it was she got to get a drink of water, then it was to go pee, but there is a bathroom in the master bedroom like most double wides have? Why if you have your own bathroom, and a full bath at that, why would you go clear to the other side to go? My best friend lives in a double wide similar to that one and if you are in the master bedroom, you can't see the kitchen from there, you have to go to the living room??? So right off none of her stories have added up and now she says she asks Ron if he had come home early from work? Would she not know that if she was home all night like she claims? She is their #1 suspect, they are just not willing at this time to name her publicly. And as for Ron being in the clear, no, he knows more than he has ever said and me thinks this has to do with them getting married, he want to keep tabs on her and what better way then to marry them where you know where they are at all times?

[lorettalockhorn]

There is no half truth regarding the kitchen light! Months ago, Teresa was with that NG reporter in the home and you can not see the light of the kitchen from thart bedroom, you have to go into the living room so right there is lie number one? And first it was she got to get a drink of water, then it was to go pee, but there is a bathroom in the master bedroom like most double wides have? Why if you have your own bathroom, and a full bath at that, why would you go clear to the other side to go? My best friend lives in a double wide similar to that one and if you are in the master bedroom, you can't see the kitchen from there, you have to go to the living room??? So right off none of her stories have added up and now she says she asks Ron if he had come home early from work? Would she not know that if she was home all night like she claims? She is their #1 suspect, they are just not willing at this time to name her publicly. And as for Ron being in the clear, no, he knows more than he has ever said and me thinks this has to do with them getting married, he want to keep tabs on her and what better way then to marry them where you know where they are at all times?

Yep. And if you're busy watching the wifey 24/7 and just got $12K+ in back support, why bother to go back to work?

Problem is moneywise, that he must be flat broke since he claimed insolvency re: the felony charges stemming from the assault on the Croslins.

[lorettalockhorn]

Interesting site (and comments):

http://pleamisty.wordpress.com/

Somehow I picture Misty tied to a kitchen chair at GGMS' house with a mouth full of Ron's athletic socks, but if I could speak to her with a civil tongue in my head (doubtful!), I would ask her to consider that Crystal herself told the media that Haleigh and Junior LOVE Misty. That took some guts if you ask me. It would be easy for the Sheffields to say Misty was despised, that they could see this coming, what with the bad blood, loss of custody, etc. Misty needs to have the same courage that CS did, honor that Haleigh loves her and do whatever it takes to bring her home.

[lorettalockhorn]

Anyone watch Ron on NG tonight? He was looking spiffy in a shirt and tie and used the word polygrapher without stumbling. But what the heck is this guy's IQ? He's asked Misty what happened and what she's told him is not inconsistent. But then he says that she is telling him the same thing that she told LE. HTH can he not consider those different stories inconsistent? Does he simply not know the meaning of the word?

HAHA Ann Bremner tap dances around the lie detector question, but I agree, I probably wouldn't take one either.

Mark Klaas once again chimes in about Tim Miller saying that he has value in searches, but as far as handling polygraphs that's amateur work and should be left to the professionals. HUH? We no more know that TM handled the polygraph than we know the credentials of the polygrapher. It would be good to know more about the guy who gave Misty the LDT. And it would be good to know that it was given under the best conditions.

[deacon]

Anyone watch Ron on NG tonight? He was looking spiffy in a shirt and tie and used the word polygrapher without stumbling. But what the heck is this guy's IQ? He's asked Misty what happened and what she's told him is not inconsistent. But then he says that she is telling him the same thing that she told LE. HTH can he not consider those different stories inconsistent? Does he simply not know the meaning of the word?

HAHA Ann Bremner tap dances around the lie detector question, but I agree, I probably wouldn't take one either.

Mark Klaas once again chimes in about Tim Miller saying that he has value in searches, but as far as handling polygraphs that's amateur work and should be left to the professionals. HUH? We no more know that TM handled the polygraph than we know the credentials of the polygrapher. It would be good to know more about the guy who gave Misty the LDT. And it would be good to know that it was given under the best conditions.

I would not take one. The fact that they can not be used in court as evidence speaks volumes. If they are not trustworthy enough to be used as evidence then they have no value.

[wind149]

The reason he looked spiffy is his lawyer sitting next to him told him to do that so as to look more intelligent? And yeah, he did answer the questions better than he has in the past, but he did not have a lawyer back then to explain things to him in a way he can comprehend? Kinda like my math professor today? He is all of 80 if he is a day over God, a tiny man that was an engineer at NASA and MIT and here are all 29 of us staring at him wondering if we will ever pass this class? Intergers? Exponents? HUH? SAY WHAT? But half-way through class because he is a hands on guy and Thank God likes to use the chalkboard to write the formulas that he wants us to learn? Like this example? Instead of writing 2+2+2+2= 8 he wants us to write this 4x2=8 and if it is -2 x-2-2-2=-4??? This actually was reaching my brain whereas I did not think it would?


How about the caller who echoed my sentiments about Misty having a male guest that night and Haleigh saw something she should not have and Misty and the caller thinks that if this was the case, and IMO it would be that black dude that maybe she and him did away with Haleigh because of their shared fear of Ron? God, who is this loser? A scrawny brain dead waste case with the intelligence of a piece of dog crap and people are scared to death of him? I could kick his ass if I had a mind to??? And he digs that everyone is afraid of him and he is a nothing and I am sure all the women on here could also kick his ass! But there is the core of it. She is not so much afraid of LE as she is of him and she apparently has been on the receiving end of his wrath and if you believe Marie, he had total control of Crystal as well and she is clearly afraid of him even today? Did you all read that letter Marie wrote? None of these people went past 7th grade, can't write, spell or have good diction and this is in the US?

OH yes kids, things are heating up in this case, before I got back on here, my landlord called from FL and this case is the talk of the bar she works at and everyone is saying what we are? How much more evidence do you need to prove that this skank is lying and has from day one? A police officer that comes in there said his dept would have already have her in custody and take it from there and I agree, but every dept has their own way of doing things and what they will share with the media and I guess we just have to be patient? I wanted her in custody 5 months ago when it was pretty clear that Haleigh was not going to be found alive walking down the street? And I think that plastic rose holds something to this twit, I think it is a marker of some kind so she would not forget where she put the body? While Casey is a tad smarter than her, having had a better education anyway, she put Caylee in an area she was familiar with, but far enough into the woods where she thought no one would go and that backfired on her when Kronk had to take a piss??

FL is so woody and swampy, hell, you could hide a jet liner in that swamp grass so I was amazed that Caylee was found at all and I still say, wherever Haleigh is, she is not far from home or the town of Satsuma, hell, she probably has not even left FL before to go to GA or AL? I think that she will be arrested in the next week or so, I have one of those guts going on as Putnam can't ignore that she flunked two tests administered by experts who do it all the time, and they have those results in hand and we all know that she could not have passed theirs either, but they did not have anything to go on back then, now they can contradict what she has told them, like the bed, the DVD player, people have come forward and told Putnam things, and I am hoping someone saw her during the alleged time line where she claims to be putting them down for the night, the doors, no way did a SO come through them, you can't see the light from the bedroom, and why would you go to a bathroom on the other side of the home when you have one three feet from your bed? The cement block propping open the door? No way would a SO take the time to do that, his MO is to enter and grab and run? The cell walls are beckoning her, the question remains, how much time will she be behind them?

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I'm telling you Wind, when I think of a rose in the middle of the woods and wonder WTF in their right mind would plant such a thing, I think of Mother Teresa. Not because she's in her right mind, but because she took Cobra out to those hog pens and leapt over snakes and showed no fear like she was some kind of magical effing dryad! I'd like to think that LE keeps an eye on these peeps, but I guess that's asking too much. At any rate, Misty either left that rose or knows who did, and for whatever reason didn't report it sooner. Flove to know how long she's known about it.

Good luck with those exponents, your guy sounds like a cutie. My economics perfesser was an old codger, and I married him. ;)

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Firstcoastnews.com live webcast:

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/6pm/default.aspx

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Part One, NG, 8/31/09:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3WZSOO24C4&feature=channel

Part Two, NG, 8/31/09:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dn28OtkFnIE&feature=channel

NG transcript, 8/31/09:

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0908/31/ng.01.html

[SaraSidle]

Part One, NG, 8/31/09:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3WZSOO24C4&feature=channel

Part Two, NG, 8/31/09:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dn28OtkFnIE&feature=channel

NG transcript, 8/31/09:

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0908/31/ng.01.html

thanks for the links Loretta. I wish Tim Miller would give him an LTD. IMO sara

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Part One, NG, 8/31/09:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3WZSOO24C4&feature=channel

Part Two, NG, 8/31/09:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dn28OtkFnIE&feature=channel

Part Three, NG, 8/31/09:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEuFxd5McS8&feature=channel

Part Four, NG, 8/31/09:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUjH1peGm3Y&feature=channel

Part Five, NG, 8/31/09:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9moA-8aVhE&feature=channel

NG transcript, 8/31/09:

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0908/31/ng.01.html

Links updated.

[DrewBerry]

Anyone watch Ron on NG tonight? He was looking spiffy in a shirt and tie and used the word polygrapher without stumbling. But what the heck is this guy's IQ? He's asked Misty what happened and what she's told him is not inconsistent. But then he says that she is telling him the same thing that she told LE. HTH can he not consider those different stories inconsistent? Does he simply not know the meaning of the word?

HAHA Ann Bremner tap dances around the lie detector question, but I agree, I probably wouldn't take one either.

Mark Klaas once again chimes in about Tim Miller saying that he has value in searches, but as far as handling polygraphs that's amateur work and should be left to the professionals. HUH? We no more know that TM handled the polygraph than we know the credentials of the polygrapher. It would be good to know more about the guy who gave Misty the LDT. And it would be good to know that it was given under the best conditions.

I loved the way NG handled Ronnie tonight! Although he was all spiffed up and polite ("Miss Nancy") he was careful to defend his child bride. This bunch of yahoos are somethin' aren't they? I was glad to see NG push the questions that we've all been wanting Ronnie Boy to answer. Of course, he didn't but I'm wondering if he's playing along with LE to allow Misty to finally break down to him (Ronnie) and tell him who took Haleigh. I do believe she's scared to death of Ronnie. Misty's brother is now in the hot seat. They're involved together in this tragedy and I believe Misty ("I'm only 17!") is about to break. JMO.
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DrewB

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Misty and Ronald Cummings Speak Out About Tests

ST. AUGUSTINE, FL -- Misty and Ronald Cummings say they hoped Tim Miller of Texas Equusearch was going to help them find Haleigh Cummings, who disappeared in February.

Instead, they claim he took them out of town and tricked them the week of August 20th.

In an interview on August 31st, Misty and Ronald Cummings talked to First Coast News' Jessica Clark in Ronald's attorney's office in St. Augustine.

Misty Cummings said, "[Miller] called on the phone and said 'I'm going to take you to Orlando to get you away because your days are numbered.' And I said okay."

However, Miller told First Coast News he only offered to take them away from the stresses in Putnam County so they could relax a little bit.

Miller said, "I asked if they wanted to get away for a couple of days to let their heads clear out."

When leaving Putnam County, Misty Cummings said Miller told her and her husband they could not bring their cell phones with them. She said she did not ask why.

Miller said, "No it's false. Ron was afraid to talk on their cell phones because Ron said his phone was tapped and Misty's phone was tapped, everybody's phone was tapped. He said it won't do any good to get away because it's a Nextel phone with GPS on it."

Ronald Cummings told Clark, "My understanding is [Miller] did not want us to be tracked, I don't know if we were being tracked by the FBI. I don't know."

Miller said the phones were "their choice. One-hundred percent their choice." Miller said he did want them to be able to reach him and their families while in Orlando, so he did purchase a prepaid phone for them.

While in Orlando for three days and two nights, Miller said Misty Cummings wanted to take a polygraph test.

But Misty told First Coast News she did not ask to take it and that it was a surprise.

"When I showed up there, they told me I was taking a polygraph. I was like, okay," Misty said. She said she never said she did not want to take the test because "I was helping. I was trying to do everything to help find Haleigh. Anything for Haleigh, I'll do."

Misty Cummings said she later felt pressured by Miller to take a voice analysis test and undergo hypnosis.

"He told me if I do not take those tests, he wouldn't look for Haleigh, and that's why I took the tests because I don't want no one to stop looking for Haleigh," Misty Cummings said.

However, Miller said she begged him to take those tests and that the hypnosis was her idea.

Misty Cummings' attorney, Robert Fields, feels Orlando-based attorney Marck NeJame was behind the tests and should not have been interfering with his client.

Fields said, "If there was an ethical obligation it was possibly breached. And it would've been by Mr. NeJame. Again, I wasn't there but that's my understating of what Misty and Ronald said."

While investigators and these latest private tests indicate Misty Cummings is withholding vital information about Haleigh's disappearance, Ronald Cummings stands by his wife.

"My feelings are we need to find my daughter," Ronald Cummings said.

First Coast News' Jessica Clark asked him, "Do you feel Misty holds some information that can help do that?" He answered, "I don't think she has any information that will help find Haleigh." ...

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/local/news-article.aspx?storyid=144221&catid=3

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I loved the way NG handled Ronnie tonight! Although he was all spiffed up and polite ("Miss Nancy") he was careful to defend his child bride. This bunch of yahoos are somethin' aren't they? I was glad to see NG push the questions that we've all been wanting Ronnie Boy to answer. Of course, he didn't but I'm wondering if he's playing along with LE to allow Misty to finally break down to him (Ronnie) and tell him who took Haleigh. I do believe she's scared to death of Ronnie. Misty's brother is now in the hot seat. They're involved together in this tragedy and I believe Misty ("I'm only 17!") is about to break. JMO.
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DrewB

Hey stranger! :seeya:

It's completely and totally irresponsible for LE to leave Misty in a situation where Ron gets a clue and figures out that wifey is lying her ass off. Is Haleigh missing and likely dead not enough? Do we have to watch Misty rolled out on a stretcher with a sheet over her face too?

Although I think it's just as likely that Ron is as guilty as Misty of lying to the Po Po and covering his own arse.

[DrewBerry]

Hey stranger! :seeya:

It's completely and totally irresponsible for LE to leave Misty in a situation where Ron gets a clue and figures out that wifey is lying her ass off. Is Haleigh missing and likely dead not enough? Do we have to watch Misty rolled out on a stretcher with a sheet over her face too?

Although I think it's just as likely that Ron is as guilty as Misty of lying to the Po Po and covering his own arse.

Hi Loretta! :seeya:OT: I've been unable to spend much time on the boards since Adam (my 21 yr. old) was hospitalized last week for renal failure. He's home and doing well now but the kidney specialist is still not certain what caused his problem. So, long story, somewhat short, I've been doing a lot of driving to and from hospital to work to home, etc. You know the drill.

Anyway I agree that Ronnie Boy is probably just as guilty as Misty of covering up/withholding information. I'm just baffled as to why LE has not been able to get HER to spill the beans. I could be wrong, but I think she's slowly cracking now. I also believe that Ronnie has probably threatened to harm her (or already has) if she has lied about who took Haleigh. I keep going back to that 911 call when he's yelling "How could you let someone take my child *****!" He is a rageaholic and I bet he watches her 24/7 and controls everything she does and says. You are right, L. He's covering his own arse as well. :flamemad:
Drew

[SaraSidle]

Hi Loretta! :seeya:OT: I've been unable to spend much time on the boards since Adam (my 21 yr. old) was hospitalized last week for renal failure. He's home and doing well now but the kidney specialist is still not certain what caused his problem. So, long story, somewhat short, I've been doing a lot of driving to and from hospital to work to home, etc. You know the drill.

Anyway I agree that Ronnie Boy is probably just as guilty as Misty of covering up/withholding information. I'm just baffled as to why LE has not been able to get HER to spill the beans. I could be wrong, but I think she's slowly cracking now. I also believe that Ronnie has probably threatened to harm her (or already has) if she has lied about who took Haleigh. I keep going back to that 911 call when he's yelling "How could you let someone take my child *****!" He is a rageaholic and I bet he watches her 24/7 and controls everything she does and says. You are right, L. He's covering his own arse as well. :flamemad:
Drew

I agree Drew. wish we could give her truth serum if that would even work.
sara IMO

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Hi Loretta! :seeya:OT: I've been unable to spend much time on the boards since Adam (my 21 yr. old) was hospitalized last week for renal failure. He's home and doing well now but the kidney specialist is still not certain what caused his problem. So, long story, somewhat short, I've been doing a lot of driving to and from hospital to work to home, etc. You know the drill.

Anyway I agree that Ronnie Boy is probably just as guilty as Misty of covering up/withholding information. I'm just baffled as to why LE has not been able to get HER to spill the beans. I could be wrong, but I think she's slowly cracking now. I also believe that Ronnie has probably threatened to harm her (or already has) if she has lied about who took Haleigh. I keep going back to that 911 call when he's yelling "How could you let someone take my child *****!" He is a rageaholic and I bet he watches her 24/7 and controls everything she does and says. You are right, L. He's covering his own arse as well. :flamemad:
Drew

Drew, sounds frightening, hope Adam is back to 100% STAT! We've missed you.

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Monday, August 31, 2009
Ronald Cummings on Nancy Grace Tonight

Ronald Cummings was on Nancy Grace tonight. Thanks to "C" for letting me know. Nancy Grace and her colleagues seem to feel that Ronald Cummings is in denial that his now wife failed the polygraph.

I was shocked at their response!!

Ronald Cumming looks like a different man tonight. I believe this is because the pressure is mounting on Misty and he is scared to death the cards are all going to come falling down on him.

All of Ronald's responses reaffirmed my original beliefs that Ronald knows a lot more than he is telling us! I do not believe he is just a victim to this crime and I stand by that.

If this video gets posted online, let me know and I will share my thoughts.

http://eyesforlies.blogspot.com/2009/08/ronald-cummings-on-nancy-grace-tonight.html

Eyes' comment from this morning:

I still have fears that if Ronald believes the police are getting too close, he may pull the trigger. He has the personality to do this. I hope I am wrong or that the police get to him before he figures it out! This may be why he looks so different. He is fraying at the ends, and his final decision is weighing on his mind.
Eyes

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Ronald Cummings Speaks On National TV

http://www.news4jax.com/video/20657559/index.html

Ooh, Misty. BMW and a driver.

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Updated Haleigh Information

TJ Hart


On Monday evening's Nancy Grace Show on HLN, the father of missing Haleigh Cummings from Satsuma, Florida once again encouraged people to continue looking for the 6-year-old and report what they see or know to law enforcement.

Several times in the past while reporting on this story for CNN Headline News programs like Nancy Grace, Jane Velez-Mitchell and Prime News, I have given Haleigh's physical description including a peanut shaped birthmark on her cheek. This is something her grandmother Teresa Neves made me aware of during a couple of Nancy Grace appeances.

Family members and friends of Haleigh Cummings have asked me to place on our website an additional photo of Haleigh's back where she has another birthmark. ...

http://www.thesky973.com/pages/5124795.php

Photo at link.

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Misty and Ronald Cummings speak out about failed lie detector test


St. Augustine, FL - Misty and Ronald Cummings say they hoped Tim Miller of Texas Equusearch was going to help them find Haleigh Cummings, who disappeared in February. Click here for full coverage on the disappearance of Haleigh Cummings.

Instead, they claim he took them out of town and tricked them the week of August 20th.

In an interview at an attorney's office in St. Augustine on August 31st, Misty and Ronald Cummings opened up about what had happened.

Misty Cummings said, "[Miller] called on the phone and said 'I'm going to take you to Orlando to get you away because your days are numbered.' And I said okay."

However, Miller told our content partners at First Coast News he only offered to take them away from the stresses in Putnam County so they could relax a little bit.

Miller said, "I asked if they wanted to get away for a couple of days to let their heads clear out."

When leaving Putnam County, Misty Cummings said Miller told her and her husband they could not bring their cell phones with them. She said she did not ask why.

Miller said, "No it's false. Ron was afraid to talk on their cell phones because Ron said his phone was tapped and Misty's phone was tapped, everybody's phone was tapped. He said it won't do any good to get away because it's a Nextel phone with GPS on it."

Ronald Cummings told Clark, "My understanding is [Miller] did not want us to be tracked, I don't know if we were being tracked by the FBI. I don't know."

Miller said the phones were "their choice. One-hundred percent their choice." Miller said he did want them to be able to reach him and their families while in Orlando, so he did purchase a prepaid phone for them.

While in Orlando for three days and two nights, Miller said Misty Cummings wanted to take a polygraph test.

But Misty says she did not ask to take it and that it was a surprise.

"When I showed up there, they told me I was taking a polygraph. I was like, okay," Misty said. She said she never said she did not want to take the test because "I was helping. I was trying to do everything to help find Haleigh. Anything for Haleigh, I'll do."

Misty Cummings said she later felt pressured by Miller to take a voice analysis test and undergo hypnosis.

"He told me if I do not take those tests, he wouldn't look for Haleigh, and that's why I took the tests because I don't want no one to stop looking for Haleigh," Misty Cummings said.

However, Miller said she begged him to take those tests and that the hypnosis was her idea.

Misty Cummings' attorney, Robert Fields, feels Orlando-based attorney Marck NeJame was behind the tests and should not have been interfering with his client.

Fields said, "If there was an ethical obligation it was possibly breached. And it would've been by Mr. NeJame. Again, I wasn't there but that's my understating of what Misty and Ronald said."

While investigators and these latest private tests indicate Misty Cummings is withholding vital information about Haleigh's disappearance, Ronald Cummings stands by his wife.

"My feelings are we need to find my daughter," Ronald Cummings said.

When asked if he felt Misty holds some information that can help do that, Ronald Cummings answered, "I don't think she has any information that will help find Haleigh."

Misty Cummings said, "If they go out and look for the right person, they'd have all the answers but they're trying to get all the answers from me that I don't have."

Misty Cummings said she did not call her attorney before taking the polygraph because she thought she could take it on her own.

Fields said he feels she did pass the tests and that the tests are open to interpretation.

Misty Cummings says she does not regret taking the tests. She also feels she passed them, even though the independent test administrators say she failed them.

http://www.wtsp.com/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=112609

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BOMBSHELL!!!!!!!!!!

TEXAS EQUUSEARCH To Search for Tim Miller Under the Bus!!!!!

http://i28.tinypic.com/2uoqwkl.jpg

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TJ Hart on BNN:

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/Simon-Barrett/2009/09/01/Haleigh-Cummings-Update

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Just saw an ad on HLN for a special Nancy Grace episode re: Haleigh to air Monday (9/7/09?).

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Haleigh Cummings' Father: I Stand Behind My Wife
Report Suggest Misty Cummings Withholding Information

JACKSONVILLE, Fla. -- Although investigators said these latest private tests indicated Misty Cummings is withholding vital information, Ronald Cummings said he stands by his wife.

"My feelings are we need to find my daughter," Ronald Cummings said. "I don't think she has any information that will help find Haleigh."

Misty and Ronald Cummings say they hoped Tim Miller of Texas EquuSearch was going to help them find their missing daughter, Haleigh.

But, instead, they claim he took them out of town and tricked them the week of Aug. 20.

In a one-on-one interview, Misty and Ronald Cummings talked to WJXT-TV, an NBC affiliate in Jacksonville.

"He called on the phone and said I'm going to take you to Orlando to get you away because your days are numbered. and I said OK," Misty Cummings said.

But Miller said he only offered to take them away from the stresses in Putnam County.

"I asked if they wanted to get away for a couple of days ... let their heads clear out and stuff," said Miller, whose organization helps search for missing persons.

Haleigh has been missing since February, when she was 5 years old. The girl was in her Putnam County home with Misty Cummings, but disappeared at some point during the night.

Haleigh has not been found.

The Cummings said Miller told them not to bring their cell phones, and Misty Cummings said she was pressured to take voice analysis and polygraph tests.

But Miller said she begged him to take those tests and the hypnosis was her idea.

http://www.wesh.com/news/20671827/detail.html

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Listen to TJ on the BNN link at around the 15:50 mark.

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/Simon-Barrett/2009/09/01/Haleigh-Cummings-Update

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From NG's Facebook:

Nancy Grace Also tonight: Breaking reports: Father of missing girl, 6, reacts to reports his wife botched a poly! Babysitter/step-mom, Misty Croslin, now says she was conned into taking the poly she failed, but shockingly has no regrets! Tune in tonight for more outrageous details!


http://www.facebook.com/NancyGraceHLN

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Crystal on NG tomorrow night:

http://www.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/nancy.grace/

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TJ says that because this story is so toxic, the networks won't cover it. Discussion of people being bit in the ass and career destruction because of Haleigh's disappearance.

AMEN.

[deacon]

TJ says that because this story is so toxic, the networks won't cover it. Discussion of people being bit in the ass and career destruction because of Haleigh's disappearance.

AMEN.

Why does none of this suprise me? This just gets worse and worse.

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According to TJ Hart, TES called off the early search for Haleigh because of a prior commitment to a paid search, and this was at the time LE was scaling back their search also.

Misty mis-stated Tim's comment that her "days were numbered". Explained.

Gosh, I don't care for Simon at all and TJ has been chapping my arse lately, but this is a good interview.

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Why does none of this suprise me? This just gets worse and worse.

If'n you ask me (or if you don't!), this is one of the major likenesses to the Caylee Anthony case.

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The Hunt for Haleigh Could Bring Down Bounty Hunter


Bail bondsman William Staubs, AKA "Cobra," pushed open the window to a condo. Inside, Cobra, a large man with stringy blond hair, a meaty face, and an unmistakable hillbilly twang, discovered a kitchen filled with pieces of PVC pipe, a handsaw, and grenades. A shooting target was set up in the living room: a drawing of a soldier with the head as bull's-eye.



With news cameras behind him from Fort Myers' ABC affiliate, WZVN, Cobra surveyed the scene. He was dressed entirely in black, belly hanging over his pants and a floppy hat protecting his face. He looked into the camera and warned viewers about the fugitive who owned the condo, Christopher Riendeau. "The guy is definitely well-versed," Cobra said, "in all these different secrets and trades of warfare."

It was May 2007. Cobra and fellow hunter Gregory Cameron, AKA "Tank," were searching for Riendeau, who'd been charged with dealing drugs but disappeared before his court date and skipped out on a $100,000 bond. The two bail bondsmen had been hired by a Miami bail bond firm to track down Riendeau so the firm wouldn't have to pony up the cash.

For a month, Cobra — who is based in Fort Lauderdale — and Tank hunted Riendeau from Florida to Rhode Island, Georgia, Massachusetts, and Texas. They tracked his cell-phone records and fake I.D.s, noticing he favored hotels near military bases. They learned that Riendeau was a former military police officer with a grudge against the Army.

Finally, the hunters zeroed in on a hotel in Clarksville, Tennessee, near the Fort Campbell Army base. Using a battering ram, they busted open the door to find Riendeau naked on the bed, lunging for his pistol. Cobra tackled him, holding a gun to his back. He cuffed his prisoner and threw clothes on him before leading him to his truck.

On the drive back to Naples, Riendeau told Cobra about a storage shed in Georgia that held pipe bombs, grenade fuses, and dozens of guns. The FBI investigated the case as a potential terrorist attack on a military base. In the end, Riendeau was sentenced to 15 years in state prison for drug charges and for making the bombs.

ABC World News picked up on the story, putting Cobra in prime time to inform the world about the threat Riendeau posed. He told ABC: "It's not some hillbilly saying, 'Hey Mama, how you doing?' This was real."

The taste of the spotlight was intoxicating. "I'm actually a national hero," Cobra says now. "I done did the famous thing. I stopped a bomber."

As a licensed private eye and bail bondsman — Florida's legally sanctioned version of a bounty hunter — Cobra holds one of the most adrenaline-pumping jobs in the nation. He also has a Forrest Gump-like knack for stumbling into work on high-profile cases. He's chased down Riendeau, shadowed O.J. Simpson, and spent nearly two years trailing Tony Masilotti, the corrupt former Palm Beach County commissioner.

Thanks to reality TV, a few people in Cobra's line of work have become celebrities. Duane "Dog" Chapman, a bail bondsman and convicted felon from Hawaii, is now a household name thanks to his A&E show, Dog the Bounty Hunter. Leonard Padilla of California has appeared on the National Geographic Channel's Bounty Hunters and made headlines as a character in the national soap opera surrounding missing toddler 2-year-old Caylee Anthony.

Cobra could be next. He's been in talks with the Discovery Channel for months. But one problem stands in his way: His work on the case of missing 5-year-old Haleigh Cummings has landed Cobra in a world of trouble. He found himself on the wrong side of a pair of handcuffs and is now facing a felony charge himself...

http://www.thesky973.com/pages/5128348.php

[SuzDuJour]

Hi All!
Forgive me for not reading back - so all this may have been discussed before.

Sooo...Ron gets into a fight with Tommy because Tommy and his parents were trying to get Misty to leave Ron and Ron gets arrested. Next thing we know is that Misty is getting poly'd and pressured. Interesting timing there...

So my question...wasn't there something about a van (Tommy's) and a blanket way back when?

[wind149]

Jesus God!! Now I know these low life's watched too many movies!! NOW their phones are tapped?? I am watching NG as I write this and she is as incredulous as I am!!! Who gives a flying f@ck if their phones are tapped?? My child be missing, I would give LE anything they needed and all these losers offer up is the same lame ass jive that they have been with the exception of the new story of "seeing 4-5 people in the house, but like I was in a dream??? And now insists that Tim FORCED her into taking the tests, when I saw with my own eyes on First Coast that she signed a waiver stating that she was taking the tests of her own free will and was not coerced??? BOY SHE HAS THAT ROPE IN HER HAND IMO!!! What a pile of cat s@it!!! And insisting that Tim told her that he would not search unless she took the test and any parent that has nothing to hide, would be like fine, let's rock??? She is so STOOPID that she does not realize once again, that she opened up her yap and made herself look even more suspect now with this attitude that she is rocking now and do any of you buy her crap about "how she will do anything to find Haleigh"?? Yeah, everything but tell the truth where her body rests??? And I am convinced now totally, that RON KNOWS WHERE SHE IS TOO and it is way clear that he cares more about this useless, lying, twat than he ever did his children as no one is that blind and when asked last night by Nancy if he believes honey pie, he says that he does and was it my imagination that during the whole show, he clenched his teeth when the callers expressed their concerns?? And did you catch his look when the caller from OH said that was it possible that she has a "male guest" that night and could he have done something with Haleigh because they both panicked, because I feel strongly that Haleigh saw something that night as well as JR's recollection of the bouncing couch, it is plausible and I think it was the black dude she had been banging previous to hooking up with Rager??

He looked like a deer in the headlights when that question was posed and I thought it was a hell of a question and I applaud that woman, because damm, did I want to get through last night so I could point blank ask him the burning questions we have posted about for 6 going on 7 months, but alas, I was not able to get through, so I was so glad that woman asked that one and it seemed to me that Nancy was being kind to him, but not honey pie and I think he was getting pissed about what she was asking him about her and he never did fully answer the polygraph failures and come on, this guy is as a dumb as a box of rocks, but he can't be that blind unless he is covering for her and that means that he cares more about her than he does "MY CHILD" and I do believe now that he knows damm well where Haleigh is? And what did you think about this, "I don't care who they are, if they hurt my daughter, I want them to fry"?? But apparently, that does not apply to sugar pie?? I now think she hit the child, she fell, hit her head, she is not moving, and this could have easily have happened when he was STILL HOME and she dies? Or he comes home and together they dispose of the body and make up these crap stories??

If there was not a dead child here, this would make a fine reality show about real low life hillbillies and their daily lives? Ron the "family guy" who would do anything to anyone if they mess with his family? Ya got Misty, and how she sits on her ass all day getting toked up on some Oxy's and does not clean the house or do the laundry and makes box mac and cheese for supper because that is the only box she can read? Laundry piles up till he b!tches about it and she throws all the clothes in a washer with bleach and a half a box of soap and the house fills up with suds and she calls him at work asking him, what should I do?? The kids are the smartest of the clan and Haleigh tells her how to do the laundry right and sugar pie whines to "Daddy" that Haleigh "don listen to her when she is fixing to put her to baad"?? And enter Jr, running the vac across the living room floor??? HAHAHA!! Why not? There is a freaking reality show about everything else and all the slutty women and dumb men on the VH1, and transvestites competing in "beauty contests" several "Lockup" shows on MSNBC, Hulk Hogan's brain dead bimbo daughter and her "problems" yeah, like hire someone to be your voice-over because Beyonce she is not and sounds like a dubbed over cat screeching in animal lust and Daddy sits there in booth beaming and how she hates Mama because she is rocking a 21 year old guy and Brookie can't handle it and Daddy buys her a multi million dollar condo in Miami and this girls has more clothes than half of the women in Hollywood and all they show on this stupid show is her overbearing father dissing anyone who might want to date her, her trials and tribulations with her roomies, shopping, clubbing, even went on a date with a woman and I expected Hulk to flip out and he didn't, and what problems could this bimbo have?? She is loaded thanks to Daddy and he pays all the bills and this twit, can you see her if all the money went away and she would have to get a REAL JOB? I only see in her future is her hugging a stripper pole for real!!

Why is this garbage on my TV??? And that show that was canceled, that broad was another bimbo loser on Rock of Love and all of these shows are having all of them on others and all the loser men from some of their other dumb shows are now on others, so why not a show about real losers who live in Deliverance FL??

[SaraSidle]

Hi All!
Forgive me for not reading back - so all this may have been discussed before.

Sooo...Ron gets into a fight with Tommy because Tommy and his parents were trying to get Misty to leave Ron and Ron gets arrested. Next thing we know is that Misty is getting poly'd and pressured. Interesting timing there...

So my question...wasn't there something about a van (Tommy's) and a blanket way back when?

Suz I was not around for the van and blanket part so I cannot help you. I am sorry. sara

[SuzDuJour]

Hi Sara!

I've been able to find that the van was apparently Misty's family van

This van was impounded by police and analyzed for weeks then released back to Misty's family. The reason for the police investigation into this van was that Chelsea Croslin (sister in law to Misty, married to Timmy, not Tommy) reported to police that the day Haleigh went missing Misty had phoned her crying and asked:

Chelsea please tell me that you are the one that put the scratch in my van.

at which point Chelsea told her

No, there's no way I put the scratch in the van

Chelsea also reports that the headlight on the van was cracked and that it was moved from where she had last parked it. Her only explanation for these things was that a family member that was staying with them took the van the night Haleigh went missing. Having said that Chelsea went on to say;

I almost feel as though I might know who it is

Police have questioned that family member and say he has not been ruled out as a suspect.

So I'm wondering if TOMMY had it that night?

I still thought there was something about a blanket that went missing with a van...still looking!!

[SuzDuJour]

A little more detail:

The van is actually owned by Misty's brother's wife. Misty has two brothers. Chelsea is the wife of one of her brothers. The van is owned by Misty's OTHER brother's wife, but on the night Haleigh was taken, the van was being driven by Chelsea.

Misty said her blanket was in that van.

So now we have Ron fighting with the brother whose wife owns that van and getting arrested...then Misty taking a poly and failing miserably...then the brother and wife who own the van are taken in for questioning because of something Misty said (lied about) during the poly exam.

I'm beginning to think that Tommy and his wife are the most deeply involved at this point and that Misty knows why and Ron probably does too.

[lorettalockhorn]

It was Bizarro World on Nancy Grace tonight; I was actually telling Mark Klaas to STFU instead of NG!! :eek: Why is Mark so hung up on the possibility that Tim Miller may have tricked Misty into a LDT? Not that I think he did; we saw her chicken scratchings indicating that she would take the polygraph without benefit of counsel. And Nancy has been tough for two days in a row getting to the crux of the biscuit with Ron Cummings. Bout time considering that when this whole thing started, she acted like he could do no wrong.

The more Ron&Misty talk, the less credible they both sound. Zero believability.

[SaraSidle]

A little more detail:

The van is actually owned by Misty's brother's wife. Misty has two brothers. Chelsea is the wife of one of her brothers. The van is owned by Misty's OTHER brother's wife, but on the night Haleigh was taken, the van was being driven by Chelsea.

Misty said her blanket was in that van.

So now we have Ron fighting with the brother whose wife owns that van and getting arrested...then Misty taking a poly and failing miserably...then the brother and wife who own the van are taken in for questioning because of something Misty said (lied about) during the poly exam.

I'm beginning to think that Tommy and his wife are the most deeply involved at this point and that Misty knows why and Ron probably does too.


Whoa Suz that puts a whole new perspective on this. Thank you so much for the info and tying it together!!!!:)

[SaraSidle]

It was Bizarro World on Nancy Grace tonight; I was actually telling Mark Klaas to STFU instead of NG!! :eek: Why is Mark so hung up on the possibility that Tim Miller may have tricked Misty into a LDT? Not that I think he did; we saw her chicken scratchings indicating that she would take the polygraph without benefit of counsel. And Nancy has been tough for two days in a row getting to the crux of the biscuit with Ron Cummings. Bout time considering that when this whole thing started, she acted like he could do no wrong.

The more Ron&Misty talk, the less credible they both sound. Zero believability.

ITA Loretta. I heard NG also and listened to the links on tape and thought the same thing.. it just sounds like more and more lies. NG got no where with RC. that was pretty wierd. IMO sara

[deacon]

ITA Loretta. I heard NG also and listened to the links on tape and thought the same thing.. it just sounds like more and more lies. NG got no where with RC. that was pretty wierd. IMO sara

Me thinks that he has enough experience with prosecutors to know how and when to answer. I still think they both know what happened but may be scared to say. I have no idea why I think that but I do. I don't think he was there and I don't see misty as smart enough to pull it off this long.

[lorettalockhorn]

A little more detail:

The van is actually owned by Misty's brother's wife. Misty has two brothers. Chelsea is the wife of one of her brothers. The van is owned by Misty's OTHER brother's wife, but on the night Haleigh was taken, the van was being driven by Chelsea.

Misty said her blanket was in that van.

So now we have Ron fighting with the brother whose wife owns that van and getting arrested...then Misty taking a poly and failing miserably...then the brother and wife who own the van are taken in for questioning because of something Misty said (lied about) during the poly exam.

I'm beginning to think that Tommy and his wife are the most deeply involved at this point and that Misty knows why and Ron probably does too.

From what I remember, Tommy and Lindsey are the bro&SIL whom Misty lived with, so it wouldn't surprise me that they are intricately tied together (so to speak). We haven't heard much about Timmy and Chelsea. Could be that they have some common sense?

I've never understood what the statement about the blanket being in the van meant, but can't help but think that all the washing and drying and blanket switching means something. LE has said that they have no reason to believe that Haleigh is dead, so guess that means that they found no traces of blood on any laundry whether clean or dirty, but Misty was so focused on the blankets that you just can't help but wonder it that's a clue to something.

Well, I guess we have to take into consideration that LE may not be telling the truth and the whole truth. (Don't have a problem with that.)

[lorettalockhorn]

ITA Loretta. I heard NG also and listened to the links on tape and thought the same thing.. it just sounds like more and more lies. NG got no where with RC. that was pretty wierd. IMO sara

Me thinks that he has enough experience with prosecutors to know how and when to answer. I still think they both know what happened but may be scared to say. I have no idea why I think that but I do. I don't think he was there and I don't see misty as smart enough to pull it off this long.

In a way I think Nancy did get somewhere with Ron. She proved that he is unwilling to answer questions except with deflection. That's got to mean something considering that he didn't have to appear on her show, they grandmothers could have made the plea to keep Haleigh in the news, for instance.

Deac, my prediction: one of these days, Ron will become a jailhouse lawyer, he's sure as heck glib enough!

[Amy]

I loved the way NG handled Ronnie tonight! Although he was all spiffed up and polite ("Miss Nancy") he was careful to defend his child bride. This bunch of yahoos are somethin' aren't they? I was glad to see NG push the questions that we've all been wanting Ronnie Boy to answer. Of course, he didn't but I'm wondering if he's playing along with LE to allow Misty to finally break down to him (Ronnie) and tell him who took Haleigh. I do believe she's scared to death of Ronnie. Misty's brother is now in the hot seat. They're involved together in this tragedy and I believe Misty ("I'm only 17!") is about to break. JMO.
:seeya:
DrewB

Who in H says "I'm only 17!!" in this day and age? Only that McCaully kid in "Home Alone"--guess she watched that one too many times, or she's been reading the boards where posters point out she's only 17. In real life, 17 y/o's don't generally claim that being "only" 17 is childlike and immature. Just the opposite. 17 y/o's think they are invincible, top dog, smarter than any adult around them. And for being "only 17" she was sure making decisions about adult-like things--living w/a yahoo, then marrying him. Only 17, my hind left foot!!!!

[ErrinSpelling]

Jesus God!! Now I know these low life's watched too many movies!! NOW their phones are tapped?? I am watching NG as I write this and she is as incredulous as I am!!! Who gives a flying f@ck if their phones are tapped?? My child be missing, I would give LE anything they needed and all these losers offer up is the same lame ass jive that they have been with the exception of the new story of "seeing 4-5 people in the house, but like I was in a dream??? And now insists that Tim FORCED her into taking the tests, when I saw with my own eyes on First Coast that she signed a waiver stating that she was taking the tests of her own free will and was not coerced??? BOY SHE HAS THAT ROPE IN HER HAND IMO!!! What a pile of cat s@it!!! And insisting that Tim told her that he would not search unless she took the test and any parent that has nothing to hide, would be like fine, let's rock??? She is so STOOPID that she does not realize once again, that she opened up her yap and made herself look even more suspect now with this attitude that she is rocking now and do any of you buy her crap about "how she will do anything to find Haleigh"?? Yeah, everything but tell the truth where her body rests??? And I am convinced now totally, that RON KNOWS WHERE SHE IS TOO and it is way clear that he cares more about this useless, lying, twat than he ever did his children as no one is that blind and when asked last night by Nancy if he believes honey pie, he says that he does and was it my imagination that during the whole show, he clenched his teeth when the callers expressed their concerns?? And did you catch his look when the caller from OH said that was it possible that she has a "male guest" that night and could he have done something with Haleigh because they both panicked, because I feel strongly that Haleigh saw something that night as well as JR's recollection of the bouncing couch, it is plausible and I think it was the black dude she had been banging previous to hooking up with Rager??

He looked like a deer in the headlights when that question was posed and I thought it was a hell of a question and I applaud that woman, because damm, did I want to get through last night so I could point blank ask him the burning questions we have posted about for 6 going on 7 months, but alas, I was not able to get through, so I was so glad that woman asked that one and it seemed to me that Nancy was being kind to him, but not honey pie and I think he was getting pissed about what she was asking him about her and he never did fully answer the polygraph failures and come on, this guy is as a dumb as a box of rocks, but he can't be that blind unless he is covering for her and that means that he cares more about her than he does "MY CHILD" and I do believe now that he knows damm well where Haleigh is? And what did you think about this, "I don't care who they are, if they hurt my daughter, I want them to fry"?? But apparently, that does not apply to sugar pie?? I now think she hit the child, she fell, hit her head, she is not moving, and this could have easily have happened when he was STILL HOME and she dies? Or he comes home and together they dispose of the body and make up these crap stories??

If there was not a dead child here, this would make a fine reality show about real low life hillbillies and their daily lives? Ron the "family guy" who would do anything to anyone if they mess with his family? Ya got Misty, and how she sits on her ass all day getting toked up on some Oxy's and does not clean the house or do the laundry and makes box mac and cheese for supper because that is the only box she can read? Laundry piles up till he b!tches about it and she throws all the clothes in a washer with bleach and a half a box of soap and the house fills up with suds and she calls him at work asking him, what should I do?? The kids are the smartest of the clan and Haleigh tells her how to do the laundry right and sugar pie whines to "Daddy" that Haleigh "don listen to her when she is fixing to put her to baad"?? And enter Jr, running the vac across the living room floor??? HAHAHA!! Why not? There is a freaking reality show about everything else and all the slutty women and dumb men on the VH1, and transvestites competing in "beauty contests" several "Lockup" shows on MSNBC, Hulk Hogan's brain dead bimbo daughter and her "problems" yeah, like hire someone to be your voice-over because Beyonce she is not and sounds like a dubbed over cat screeching in animal lust and Daddy sits there in booth beaming and how she hates Mama because she is rocking a 21 year old guy and Brookie can't handle it and Daddy buys her a multi million dollar condo in Miami and this girls has more clothes than half of the women in Hollywood and all they show on this stupid show is her overbearing father dissing anyone who might want to date her, her trials and tribulations with her roomies, shopping, clubbing, even went on a date with a woman and I expected Hulk to flip out and he didn't, and what problems could this bimbo have?? She is loaded thanks to Daddy and he pays all the bills and this twit, can you see her if all the money went away and she would have to get a REAL JOB? I only see in her future is her hugging a stripper pole for real!!

Why is this garbage on my TV??? And that show that was canceled, that broad was another bimbo loser on Rock of Love and all of these shows are having all of them on others and all the loser men from some of their other dumb shows are now on others, so why not a show about real losers who live in Deliverance FL??

you know that bugged phone has bothered me, since the 1st time misty said it.. art wrote the story about party girls & nay nay said misty's s-i-l told her to get off the phone, the phones were bugged..i think only criminals would think or say this...
lol.. i thought you were the caller from ohio, last night.

[lorettalockhorn]

Miller Says Haleigh's Father Doubts Wife's Story

PUTNAM COUNTY, FL -- Misty Cummings has gone through multiple tests, trying to prove her innocence, but experts say she knows more about what happened to her missing stepdaughter than she is saying.

Misty Cummings was the last person to see Haleigh Cummings before she disappeared in February from their home. Misty's husband, Ronald Cummings, stands by her side.

He told First Coast News Monday "I don't think [Misty] has any information that will help find Haleigh."

Tim Miller of Texas Equusearch told First Coast News this week, "Ron may be saying that now."

Miller said Ronald Cummings told him, as well as Orlando-based attorney Mark NeJame, about two weeks ago that he doubted Misty's story about the night Haleigh disappeared.

Miller told First Coast News, "Ronald's statement right then was, 'The b**** has something to do with Haleigh's disappearance.'"

Misty Cummings has said she put Haleigh to bed that February night at 8:00 and then around 10:00 Misty herself went to sleep.

Miller said Ronald Cummings does not buy that story.

Miller told First Coast News, "He said, 'She had never been to sleep that night.' He said, 'The bed was still made.' He said, 'Nobody had been in the bed.'"

Misty, in an exclusive interview with First Coast News' Jessica Clark, said the bed was not made. "I was sleeping in that bed. How would it be made if someone was sleeping in the bed? I wasn't the only one sleeping in it. Me and his son. How would the bed be made if we were in the bed sleeping in it?"

Miller said Ronald Cummings also told him, "She's lying."

Miller said, NeJame asked Ronald Cummings, "Why did you marry her? [Ronald] said, his exact words were, 'You keep your friends close and your enemies closer.'"

NeJame told First Coast News he would not comment on private conversations, but he added, "Whatever Miller says, you can take it to the bank."

Misty Cummings said she had nothing to do with Haleigh's disappearance.

"They've been on me for six months. I've been the focus. They just need to move on and look for the right person," Misty Cummings said.

Ronald Cummings agreed Monday afternoon, even though detectives and private individuals say Misty holds the key to finding Haleigh.

Jessica Clark asked Ronald Cummings, "Do you feel Misty is the key to this investigation?"

Ronald responded and said, "No, I don't. I think they're barking up the wrong tree."

Ronald Cummings' attorney, Terry Shoemaker said Ronald did have conversations with Miller. Shoemaker said Cummings has questioned everyone around him since Haleigh disappeared.

Shoemaker added that his client still stands by Misty and will continue to do so until there are "cold hard facts" to suggest he should not.

Misty Cummings and her attorney feel she passed the tests, even though the people who administered the tests said she failed them.

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/printfullstory.aspx?storyid=144277

[Amy]

Misty and Ronald Cummings Speak Out About Tests

ST. AUGUSTINE, FL -- Misty and Ronald Cummings say they hoped Tim Miller of Texas Equusearch was going to help them find Haleigh Cummings, who disappeared in February.

Instead, they claim he took them out of town and tricked them the week of August 20th.

In an interview on August 31st, Misty and Ronald Cummings talked to First Coast News' Jessica Clark in Ronald's attorney's office in St. Augustine.

Misty Cummings said, "[Miller] called on the phone and said 'I'm going to take you to Orlando to get you away because your days are numbered.' And I said okay."

However, Miller told First Coast News he only offered to take them away from the stresses in Putnam County so they could relax a little bit.

Miller said, "I asked if they wanted to get away for a couple of days to let their heads clear out."

When leaving Putnam County, Misty Cummings said Miller told her and her husband they could not bring their cell phones with them. She said she did not ask why.

Miller said, "No it's false. Ron was afraid to talk on their cell phones because Ron said his phone was tapped and Misty's phone was tapped, everybody's phone was tapped. He said it won't do any good to get away because it's a Nextel phone with GPS on it."

Ronald Cummings told Clark, "My understanding is [Miller] did not want us to be tracked, I don't know if we were being tracked by the FBI. I don't know."

Miller said the phones were "their choice. One-hundred percent their choice." Miller said he did want them to be able to reach him and their families while in Orlando, so he did purchase a prepaid phone for them.

While in Orlando for three days and two nights, Miller said Misty Cummings wanted to take a polygraph test.

But Misty told First Coast News she did not ask to take it and that it was a surprise.

"When I showed up there, they told me I was taking a polygraph. I was like, okay," Misty said. She said she never said she did not want to take the test because "I was helping. I was trying to do everything to help find Haleigh. Anything for Haleigh, I'll do."

Misty Cummings said she later felt pressured by Miller to take a voice analysis test and undergo hypnosis.

"He told me if I do not take those tests, he wouldn't look for Haleigh, and that's why I took the tests because I don't want no one to stop looking for Haleigh," Misty Cummings said.

However, Miller said she begged him to take those tests and that the hypnosis was her idea.

Misty Cummings' attorney, Robert Fields, feels Orlando-based attorney Marck NeJame was behind the tests and should not have been interfering with his client.

Fields said, "If there was an ethical obligation it was possibly breached. And it would've been by Mr. NeJame. Again, I wasn't there but that's my understating of what Misty and Ronald said."

While investigators and these latest private tests indicate Misty Cummings is withholding vital information about Haleigh's disappearance, Ronald Cummings stands by his wife.

"My feelings are we need to find my daughter," Ronald Cummings said.

First Coast News' Jessica Clark asked him, "Do you feel Misty holds some information that can help do that?" He answered, "I don't think she has any information that will help find Haleigh." ...

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/local/news-article.aspx?storyid=144221&catid=3

Bolding mine.

Let me see. Who am I going to believe? Ron and Misti? Tim and Mark? Tim and Mark? Ron and Misti? Gee, that's a hard decision NOT

[SuzDuJour]

In a way I think Nancy did get somewhere with Ron. She proved that he is unwilling to answer questions except with deflection.

OH Loretta, that's what I saw, too. And I don't believe he married his child bride for love, so it leaves me a tad bit suspicious of him. The thing is, I've been a tad bit suspicious since his very first on-camera interview where he fell to the ground overcome by high pitched sobbing, only to pop back up for the next question. These people all seem to be tied together, as you noted, but they are also unravelling at the point of Ron's arrest. Suddenly, things are happening, polys are being given and the family is being brought in for questioning. Why now? Has Ron said something??

The thing that leaves me most dumbfounded is that Ron doesn't seem to care that Misty is lying through her teeth, and while he's willing to punch out his BIL over trying to take Misty away, he doesn't seem to want to pressure little Misty to tell what she knows about Haleigh...not that I'm suggesting he punch her out. That's just what I do if I thought someone was lying about my missing baby...

[lorettalockhorn]

Who in H says "I'm only 17!!" in this day and age? Only that McCaully kid in "Home Alone"--guess she watched that one too many times, or she's been reading the boards where posters point out she's only 17. In real life, 17 y/o's don't generally claim that being "only" 17 is childlike and immature. Just the opposite. 17 y/o's think they are invincible, top dog, smarter than any adult around them. And for being "only 17" she was sure making decisions about adult-like things--living w/a yahoo, then marrying him. Only 17, my hind left foot!!!!

I think Misty says 1) whatever pops into her head, and 2) whatever lie will cover he arse for a nano second. In fact, I think she is such a liar (albeit NOT particularly accomplished or believable) that she might just put Casey Anthony to shame.

ITA that Misty needs to steer clear of the "I'm just a kid" defense. She's been out of school, out from under the parents' thumb, shacked up with a physically (if not emotionally) man, "raising" two children, and pretending to be all growed up for quite a while now. And all seemingly her choice.

[Amy]

Misty and Ronald Cummings speak out about failed lie detector test


St. Augustine, FL - Misty and Ronald Cummings say they hoped Tim Miller of Texas Equusearch was going to help them find Haleigh Cummings, who disappeared in February. Click here for full coverage on the disappearance of Haleigh Cummings.

Instead, they claim he took them out of town and tricked them the week of August 20th.

In an interview at an attorney's office in St. Augustine on August 31st, Misty and Ronald Cummings opened up about what had happened.

Misty Cummings said, "[Miller] called on the phone and said 'I'm going to take you to Orlando to get you away because your days are numbered.' And I said okay."

However, Miller told our content partners at First Coast News he only offered to take them away from the stresses in Putnam County so they could relax a little bit.

Miller said, "I asked if they wanted to get away for a couple of days to let their heads clear out."

When leaving Putnam County, Misty Cummings said Miller told her and her husband they could not bring their cell phones with them. She said she did not ask why.

Miller said, "No it's false. Ron was afraid to talk on their cell phones because Ron said his phone was tapped and Misty's phone was tapped, everybody's phone was tapped. He said it won't do any good to get away because it's a Nextel phone with GPS on it."

Ronald Cummings told Clark, "My understanding is [Miller] did not want us to be tracked, I don't know if we were being tracked by the FBI. I don't know."

Miller said the phones were "their choice. One-hundred percent their choice." Miller said he did want them to be able to reach him and their families while in Orlando, so he did purchase a prepaid phone for them.

While in Orlando for three days and two nights, Miller said Misty Cummings wanted to take a polygraph test.

But Misty says she did not ask to take it and that it was a surprise.

"When I showed up there, they told me I was taking a polygraph. I was like, okay," Misty said. She said she never said she did not want to take the test because "I was helping. I was trying to do everything to help find Haleigh. Anything for Haleigh, I'll do."

Misty Cummings said she later felt pressured by Miller to take a voice analysis test and undergo hypnosis.

"He told me if I do not take those tests, he wouldn't look for Haleigh, and that's why I took the tests because I don't want no one to stop looking for Haleigh," Misty Cummings said.

However, Miller said she begged him to take those tests and that the hypnosis was her idea.

Misty Cummings' attorney, Robert Fields, feels Orlando-based attorney Marck NeJame was behind the tests and should not have been interfering with his client.

Fields said, "If there was an ethical obligation it was possibly breached. And it would've been by Mr. NeJame. Again, I wasn't there but that's my understating of what Misty and Ronald said."

While investigators and these latest private tests indicate Misty Cummings is withholding vital information about Haleigh's disappearance, Ronald Cummings stands by his wife.

"My feelings are we need to find my daughter," Ronald Cummings said.

When asked if he felt Misty holds some information that can help do that, Ronald Cummings answered, "I don't think she has any information that will help find Haleigh."

Misty Cummings said, "If they go out and look for the right person, they'd have all the answers but they're trying to get all the answers from me that I don't have."

Misty Cummings said she did not call her attorney before taking the polygraph because she thought she could take it on her own.

Fields said he feels she did pass the tests and that the tests are open to interpretation.

Misty Cummings says she does not regret taking the tests. She also feels she passed them, even though the independent test administrators say she failed them.

http://www.wtsp.com/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=112609

Bolding mine.

So, again, Misti Cummings got her education in polygraphy @ what police academy (or, wherever one becomes a polygrapher.) And, what does her lawyer base his assumption on? Did he review the results of the polygraph to come to this conclusion? Or, did he come to that conclusion after polygraphy expert Misti Cummings told him she feels she passed? :biggrin::chicken:

[SaraSidle]

OH Loretta, that's what I saw, too. And I don't believe he married his child bride for love, so it leaves me a tad bit suspicious of him. The thing is, I've been a tad bit suspicious since his very first on-camera interview where he fell to the ground overcome by high pitched sobbing, only to pop back up for the next question. These people all seem to be tied together, as you noted, but they are also unravelling at the point of Ron's arrest. Suddenly, things are happening, polys are being given and the family is being brought in for questioning. Why now? Has Ron said something??

The thing that leaves me most dumbfounded is that Ron doesn't seem to care that Misty is lying through her teeth, and while he's willing to punch out his BIL over trying to take Misty away, he doesn't seem to want to pressure little Misty to tell what she knows about Haleigh...not that I'm suggesting he punch her out. That's just what I do if I thought someone was lying about my missing baby...

When I said NG got no where I meant Ron did not give out any new information. yes his deflections were obvious. Lies and deflections are getting on my nerves. fyi :cuss: sara

[lorettalockhorn]

you know that bugged phone has bothered me, since the 1st time misty said it.. art wrote the story about party girls & nay nay said misty's s-i-l told her to get off the phone, the phones were bugged..i think only criminals would think or say this...
lol.. i thought you were the caller from ohio, last night.

God help me (AGAIN!), I'm with Nancy Schmancy on this one. Who cares if your phone is bugged or GPSed or Miracle Whipped or Whatever, when your baby is missing!?!? Just quit using the cellie to make your drug deals for pity's sake!!!!!

[Amy]

Hi All!
Forgive me for not reading back - so all this may have been discussed before.

Sooo...Ron gets into a fight with Tommy because Tommy and his parents were trying to get Misty to leave Ron and Ron gets arrested. Next thing we know is that Misty is getting poly'd and pressured. Interesting timing there...

So my question...wasn't there something about a van (Tommy's) and a blanket way back when?

I think the fight was w/Hank Croslin, Jr.

[ErrinSpelling]

A little more detail:

The van is actually owned by Misty's brother's wife. Misty has two brothers. Chelsea is the wife of one of her brothers. The van is owned by Misty's OTHER brother's wife, but on the night Haleigh was taken, the van was being driven by Chelsea.

Misty said her blanket was in that van.

So now we have Ron fighting with the brother whose wife owns that van and getting arrested...then Misty taking a poly and failing miserably...then the brother and wife who own the van are taken in for questioning because of something Misty said (lied about) during the poly exam.

I'm beginning to think that Tommy and his wife are the most deeply involved at this point and that Misty knows why and Ron probably does too.

have never understood the van story, so i just decided it is another of misty's lies.. my head will explode if i try to figure out her inconsistently consistence.:confused:
first at IS they said the author said misty called, but it was really a s-i-l , not misty & he didn't know who he was talking to....
& they still can't decide which cousin,if it was joe or another cousin, who was there.

misty is trying to blame all of her enemies also, she not only blamed tommy, but crystal 's family & cousin joe.

[SuzDuJour]

I think the fight was w/Hank Croslin, Jr.

Oh Geesh...I didn't even know there WAS a Hank Croslin, Jr.!

[lorettalockhorn]

OH Loretta, that's what I saw, too. And I don't believe he married his child bride for love, so it leaves me a tad bit suspicious of him. The thing is, I've been a tad bit suspicious since his very first on-camera interview where he fell to the ground overcome by high pitched sobbing, only to pop back up for the next question. These people all seem to be tied together, as you noted, but they are also unravelling at the point of Ron's arrest. Suddenly, things are happening, polys are being given and the family is being brought in for questioning. Why now? Has Ron said something??

The thing that leaves me most dumbfounded is that Ron doesn't seem to care that Misty is lying through her teeth, and while he's willing to punch out his BIL over trying to take Misty away, he doesn't seem to want to pressure little Misty to tell what she knows about Haleigh...not that I'm suggesting he punch her out. That's just what I do if I thought someone was lying about my missing baby...

Glad to see you mention Ron's pitch that first night. Sorry, Mr. Studmuffin, but that girlie display of false prosody gave you away to me. You, sir are a liar.

For sure Ron doesn't seem moved by much of anything, but I think the guy's a stone cold liar. I think his distress over Haleigh and wanting her abductor to fry is as false as is his calm over his wife cuckholding him and being a druggie (that's man's business!) and failing polygraphs, and lying about being home all night and doing laundry........................Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Don't think he should punch her out either. But he might think about giving her a one way ride to the SO. IF he's not afraid of what she would say to save her skin.

[lorettalockhorn]

Oh Geesh...I didn't even know there WAS a Hank Croslin, Jr.!

Hank Jr. is Tommy.

[ErrinSpelling]

It was Bizarro World on Nancy Grace tonight; I was actually telling Mark Klaas to STFU instead of NG!! :eek: Why is Mark so hung up on the possibility that Tim Miller may have tricked Misty into a LDT? Not that I think he did; we saw her chicken scratchings indicating that she would take the polygraph without benefit of counsel. And Nancy has been tough for two days in a row getting to the crux of the biscuit with Ron Cummings. Bout time considering that when this whole thing started, she acted like he could do no wrong.

The more Ron&Misty talk, the less credible they both sound. Zero believability.

:D me too. i told him to sthu last night & tonight & last week...bethany marshall explained misty & he said i don't agree & he won't sthu about tim, but then he says misty is a liar, so why does he get mad at tim! not a question... misty can do nothing but lie. she lies in tha same sentence..

she would do anything to find haleigh is her excuse for poly, but now she wants tim to leave. big lie or oxymoron?

1.she took 2 tests at family homes, not in orlando, so being forced is a lie.
2. she signed a statement also, but we have been through those lies.

please keep talking misty & hang yourself.

[Amy]

Earlier, wind posted about the possibility (probability) of Misti having male company that night, which is as likely a scenario as any, @ this point. But, why would she be scared that Ron would find out? He knew she had spent the immediately prior weekend with friends that included one male @ least. Her "friends" didn't seem to have any problem talking about Misti romping in the hay w/White Boy George, so surely Ron knew about that, and Misti was still alive on Monday. Unless it would really po him for her to romp w/another fellow in his (Ron's) hay, but wasn't that much of a big deal if they did it somewhere else?

[Amy]

Oh Geesh...I didn't even know there WAS a Hank Croslin, Jr.!

That's what they were calling him in the reports about the fight. I don't know--maybe he is called Timmy or Tommy, but the reporters didn't know he had a nickname? But it would seem to me the local reporters who have been on the case since the beginning would surely know to write "Hank Croslin, Jr, known as ......(whichever one) or "Hank (Timmy/Tommy) Croslin Jr. So, I was just going by the fact that the reporters only said Hank Croslin Jr.

[ErrinSpelling]

God help me (AGAIN!), I'm with Nancy Schmancy on this one. Who cares if your phone is bugged or GPSed or Miracle Whipped or Whatever, when your baby is missing!?!? Just quit using the cellie to make your drug deals for pity's sake!!!!!

exactly, what else could it be, but illegal acts, he doesn't want to be heard ....omg this place is moving faster than misty's lies.

[SuzDuJour]

"Hank Croslin, Jr, known as ......(whichever one) or "Hank (Timmy/Tommy) Croslin Jr. So, I was just going by the fact that the reporters only said Hank Croslin Jr.

Oh my gosh, I'm laughing so hard. It's kind of like "here's my brother Darrell and my other brother Darrell". True story, my ex's father (from the hills of North Carolina) is a twin named Harold. His twin's name is Harry. Maybe they couldn't think of another name?

Hank, Timmy Tommy. Actually, I know there is a Timmy, he's married to Chelsea. Hank/Tommy is married to Lindsey ?? AHHHHH I give up...

[ErrinSpelling]

From what I remember, Tommy and Lindsey are the bro&SIL whom Misty lived with, so it wouldn't surprise me that they are intricately tied together (so to speak). We haven't heard much about Timmy and Chelsea. Could be that they have some common sense?

I've never understood what the statement about the blanket being in the van meant, but can't help but think that all the washing and drying and blanket switching means something. LE has said that they have no reason to believe that Haleigh is dead, so guess that means that they found no traces of blood on any laundry whether clean or dirty, but Misty was so focused on the blankets that you just can't help but wonder it that's a clue to something.

Well, I guess we have to take into consideration that LE may not be telling the truth and the whole truth. (Don't have a problem with that.)

lol.. at least you only had a problem, with the obj of a prep...if this case goes on much longer we will all be having problems ,with the past tense of see & come...i hope they put misty in jail with rabbi neulander so he can teach her that she saw & didn't seen ......:rolleyes:

lies for eyes doesn't believe the blanket story either.

[Amy]

Oh my gosh, I'm laughing so hard. It's kind of like "here's my brother Darrell and my other brother Darrell". True story, my ex's father (from the hills of North Carolina) is a twin named Harold. His twin's name is Harry. Maybe they couldn't think of another name?

Hank, Timmy Tommy. Actually, I know there is a Timmy, he's married to Chelsea. Hank/Tommy is married to Lindsey ?? AHHHHH I give up...

I remember early on, @ least one of the brothers had a mySpace, but I wasn't really figuring on her brothers to be much involved, so I didn't really pay attention to who is whom or what. Guess I should have known better, lol!!!

We had a set of twins some years ago. Can't remember which Asian country the parents hailed from, but they wanted to give their boys American names, for sure. One was Mack, the other---Mackie!!!! We could NOT get them to take a different approach. They didn't understand what we were trying to say about the forever mix up these boys will face. In fact, the mixup started right there in the NICU---Dad says, this one is Mack, that one is Mackie. When it came time to sign papers, he swears we had them backwards!!!!:confused:

[ErrinSpelling]

Oh my gosh, I'm laughing so hard. It's kind of like "here's my brother Darrell and my other brother Darrell". True story, my ex's father (from the hills of North Carolina) is a twin named Harold. His twin's name is Harry. Maybe they couldn't think of another name?

Hank, Timmy Tommy. Actually, I know there is a Timmy, he's married to Chelsea. Hank/Tommy is married to Lindsey ?? AHHHHH I give up...

:hat: LOLOL
i love those daryl's... 8-9 pm est sunday , wgn.

[SuzDuJour]

Okay...so we have Haleigh missing the same night Misty's blanket is missing which was last seen in the van with the scratch that happened the night Haleigh went missing (van driven by Chelsa who is married to Timmy).

We have a fight where Ron is arrested for punching out Hank/Tommy who came to rescue Misty, who has filed a restraining order against Hank/Tommy who she may feel wants to shut her up as much as rescue her (?) even though they/he says he was INVITED there by a crying Misty to rescue her. from Ron..and then she bails out Ron, who was punching them/he out for trying to take her away...

HUH?

[lorettalockhorn]

:hat: LOLOL
i love those daryl's... 8-9 pm est sunday , wgn.

I'm so there!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Amy]

Okay...so we have Haleigh missing the same night Misty's blanket is missing which was last seen in the van with the scratch that happened the night Haleigh went missing (van driven by Chelsa who is married to Timmy).

We have a fight where Ron is arrested for punching out Hank/Tommy who came to rescue Misty, who has filed a restraining order against Hank/Tommy who she may feel wants to shut her up as much as rescue her (?) even though they/he says he was INVITED there by a crying Misty to rescue her. from Ron..and then she bails out Ron, who was punching them/he out for trying to take her away...

HUH?

Unfortunately, that is about as clear as it gets!!! ;)

[lorettalockhorn]

Okay...so we have Haleigh missing the same night Misty's blanket is missing which was last seen in the van with the scratch that happened the night Haleigh went missing (van driven by Chelsa who is married to Timmy).

We have a fight where Ron is arrested for punching out Hank/Tommy who came to rescue Misty, who has filed a restraining order against Hank/Tommy who she may feel wants to shut her up as much as rescue her (?) even though they/he says he was INVITED there by a crying Misty to rescue her. from Ron..and then she bails out Ron, who was punching them/he out for trying to take her away...

HUH?

For some crazy reason I think that was a set up; maybe Misty really did call Hank, Hank Jr. and Tommy and Lisa to come get her knowing fully well that there would be a knockdown drag out fight. Maybe she was hoping there would be gun play and someone would be shot in self-defense.

[ErrinSpelling]

I'm so there!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:hat: stay tuned at 9 for harry, harold, mack & mackie!

[SuzDuJour]

:hat: stay tuned at 9 for harry, harold, mack & mackie!


ROFLROLF!!!!
And Daryl and Daryl and Hank/Tommy Timmy

[ErrinSpelling]

I'm telling you Wind, when I think of a rose in the middle of the woods and wonder WTF in their right mind would plant such a thing, I think of Mother Teresa. Not because she's in her right mind, but because she took Cobra out to those hog pens and leapt over snakes and showed no fear like she was some kind of magical effing dryad! I'd like to think that LE keeps an eye on these peeps, but I guess that's asking too much. At any rate, Misty either left that rose or knows who did, and for whatever reason didn't report it sooner. Flove to know how long she's known about it.

Good luck with those exponents, your guy sounds like a cutie. My economics perfesser was an old codger, and I married him. ;)

that's interesting about TN.. i had thought misty or the poster rose red.

:hat:you married him,how cute.oh my smilie just came back.:D