View Full Version : Haleigh Cummings 5yrs old Missing
Woostock
04-14-2009, 07:05 PM
Ron was at work----something about making an honest living.....
Guess he's not at work anymore; as he raids the $$$ contributions. No doubt he has lost some brain cells with all the drugs and he probably didn't have too many to start with. Poor Jr in that environment; I hope he gets into a decent family soon. Sometimes at school we teachers will brainstorm about the ideal family for this one or that one and we dream what a different life the kids would have if we could get them new famillies. Now isn't that sad...we care more than their families
ErrinSpelling
04-14-2009, 07:09 PM
Ron was at work----something about making an honest living.....
Guess he's not at work anymore; as he raids the $$$ contributions. No doubt he has lost some brain cells with all the drugs and he probably didn't have too many to start with. Poor Jr in that environment; I hope he gets into a decent family soon. Sometimes at school we teachers will brainstorm about the ideal family for this one or that one and we dream what a different life the kids would have if we could get them new famillies. Now isn't that sad...we care more than their families
it's good that someone does care....ron is going to get himself killed,if he keeps acting lke a rageful ,maniac, all over town.a citizen may do something before LE does.
Native Alien
04-14-2009, 08:31 PM
I read on the Art Harris site in some of the comments that Ron had lost his job. It didn't give why, just that he had been let go. I would almost bet that it had to do with his drug record. That or they had him drug tested and the test come back positive.
I know that here in Ohio that if he would have been drug tested on a regular basis seeing as he is a heavy equipment operator.
ErrinSpelling
04-14-2009, 09:12 PM
I read on the Art Harris site in some of the comments that Ron had lost his job. It didn't give why, just that he had been let go. I would almost bet that it had to do with his drug record. That or they had him drug tested and the test come back positive.
I know that here in Ohio that if he would have been drug tested on a regular basis seeing as he is a heavy equipment operator.
oh there was so much arguing about him going back to work, at IS, last week... ..i remember when a poster called his work...then i later found out, i knew the poster since s peterson & i believe she was told that ron quit & not to call back...then there was a story he went back to work last monday & was told no & police were called, but no one else has said anything,if he is working or not....:confused:
ErrinSpelling
04-14-2009, 09:26 PM
:( loretta, what happened to your signature line? i miss the truth and miss anthony...
lorettalockhorn
04-14-2009, 09:47 PM
:( loretta, what happened to your signature line? i miss the truth and miss anthony...
This here? >>And I would add that the truth and Ms. Anthony are strangers. The Honorable Stan Strickland<<
Is it not there? Crikey!!!! Don't tell me that my siggie is on ignore!!!!!! :hat:
ErrinSpelling
04-14-2009, 11:41 PM
This here? >>And I would add that the truth and Ms. Anthony are strangers. The Honorable Stan Strickland<<
Is it not there? Crikey!!!! Don't tell me that my siggie is on ignore!!!!!! :hat:
i didn't try to ignore it.is it me?
yes, the honorable stan strickland.
lorettalockhorn
04-14-2009, 11:43 PM
i didn't try to ignore it.is it me?
Well, dang it! I can still see it; can't you?!?!?!?!?!?!?! Waaaaaaaahhhhh
ErrinSpelling
04-14-2009, 11:45 PM
Well, dang it! I can still see it; can't you?!?!?!?!?!?!?! Waaaaaaaahhhhh
lol no
ErrinSpelling
04-14-2009, 11:50 PM
maybe it's me. i don't see anyone's....
i would like to have cindy: you want to go there? who's the --- now? who's the --- now?
but it will aggravate me, every time i see it & you have to have the look on her face to do it justice.
lorettalockhorn
04-15-2009, 12:02 AM
maybe it's me. i don't see anyone's....
i would like to have cindy: you want to go there? who's the --- now? who's the --- now?
but it will aggravate me, every time i see it & you have to have the look on her face to do it justice.
This look?
http://i35.tinypic.com/73ov8z.jpg
She's as cuddly as a cactus, charming as an eel. She's a bad banana
With a greasy black peel.
ErrinSpelling
04-15-2009, 12:05 AM
This look?
http://i35.tinypic.com/73ov8z.jpg
She's as cuddly as a cactus, charming as an eel. She's a bad banana
With a greasy black peel.
:hat: LOL
not helena casseidein
ErrinSpelling
04-15-2009, 12:09 AM
I can see it Loretta-last line-your good from up here in Canada LOL. I cant believe there is still nothing in this case. I pop in from time to time-this is just nuts. Is LE pretty much on the same plane as these characters? Where is Misty? Is she still with Ron?
you can?:confused:
why can't i? i even tried to give myself one, but can't see it.
lorettalockhorn
04-15-2009, 12:14 AM
you can?:confused:
why can't i? i even tried to give myself one, but can't see it.
?Is this not your siggie: I'm too tired. guess who
And my 1st guess is Lili Von Shtupp, Blazing Saddles.
ErrinSpelling
04-15-2009, 12:21 AM
?Is this not your siggie: I'm too tired. guess who
And my 1st guess is Lili Von Shtupp, Blazing Saddles.
yes,i wrote that a few minutes ago.:D lol
but i can't see it.
ErrinSpelling
04-15-2009, 12:23 AM
as long as yours is still there,that's all that matters.
lorettalockhorn
04-15-2009, 01:44 AM
yes,i wrote that a few minutes ago.:D lol
but i can't see it.
So it really is Lily from Blazing Saddles? She's tired. So tired. "Would you like another schnitzengruben?" HAHAHAHA
ErrinSpelling
04-15-2009, 01:49 AM
So it really is Lily from Blazing Saddles? She's tired. So tired. "Would you like another schnitzengruben?" HAHAHAHA
:D it is lily & misty, if you are speaking of my invisible signature line.i'd erase it, but i can't tell what would happen then...i might become invisible...
RaVeN71806
04-15-2009, 11:31 AM
The pics I have seen of the tat of Haleigh, I also tho't were poorly done, looks nothing like a child, let alone Haleigh. Unless these were pics when there was swelling and stuff and they look different (better?) now? If I were Ron, I'd ask for my money back on that one. Oh, wait---he didn't pay for the tat!!! Oh, I know!!! Ask for THE DONOR's money back, and have that $400 to spend!!!!:chicken:
nah no swelling..bleeding yes...I can't believe that Ron likes it..its horrible..and lol@the donor comment I have to say if I was the donor for it I would of been like WTH is this crap!
lorettalockhorn
04-15-2009, 09:45 PM
Haleigh's father loses his job
After waiting two months to hear from the father of still missing 5-year-old Putnam County kindergartner Haleigh Cummings, the Palatka plant where he worked has fired him for abandoning the job, the company said.
Cummings’ employment was a factor in his being granted custody of his daughter and son in 2005 because he was in a better position to pay for health insurance. Following Haleigh’s disappearance, the long estranged mother of the children has said she wants custody of their son, 4-year-old Ronald Cummings Jr.
Tony McCauley, director of human resources for PDM Bridge, said Cummings’ bosses never heard from him following Haleigh’s disappearance Feb. 10. McCauley said Cummings could have asked for a leave of absence.
“That never happened,” he said from company headquarters in Eau Claire, Wisconsin. “Without that happening, at some point they filled his position. He was released.”
Cummings operated a rolling crane at the plant north of Palatka. He was not a longtime employee.
“We still have a great deal of sympathy for Mr. Cummings and his family and certainly hope for the best,” McCauley said.
Haleigh was reported missing just as Cummings was arriving home from work about 3 a.m. on Feb. 10 and his girlfriend said the youngster was gone. The girl has not been found despite an intense search and investigation that is still continuing.
Earlier McCauley said the company was willing to hold the job open but wouldn’t discuss if it was doing anything else to assist the family. But Wednesday he said a decision had to be made that was consistent and fair regarding other employees.
This week PDM asked Putnam County deputies to monitor shift changes at the plant that employs about 120 people and manufactures structural sections for steel bridges. McCauley would not say if the company had a specific reason for the request but only that it is done in some cases.
“It’s just a judgment call you make from employee to employee based on what might happen,” he said.
Lt. Johnny Greenwood of the Sheriff’s Office said deputies were stationed at the plant during the two daily shift changes beginning Monday. They wanted to make sure there were no disruptions in case Cummings was upset.
Officers did not encounter any either day, Greenwood said.
Calls to Palatka attorney Greg Kimball, who is representing Cummings, were not returned Wednesday.
Since his daughter’s disappearance, Cummings has had access to money donated for family expenses but which can only be released under state rules for such accounts.
http://jacksonville.com/news/metro/2009-04-15/story/haleighs_father_loses_his_job
I doubt Ronnie will be too very much upset--now he can collect unemployment, most likely.
ErrinSpelling
04-15-2009, 09:59 PM
Haleigh's father loses his job
After waiting two months to hear from the father of still missing 5-year-old Putnam County kindergartner Haleigh Cummings, the Palatka plant where he worked has fired him for abandoning the job, the company said.
Cummings’ employment was a factor in his being granted custody of his daughter and son in 2005 because he was in a better position to pay for health insurance. Following Haleigh’s disappearance, the long estranged mother of the children has said she wants custody of their son, 4-year-old Ronald Cummings Jr.
Tony McCauley, director of human resources for PDM Bridge, said Cummings’ bosses never heard from him following Haleigh’s disappearance Feb. 10. McCauley said Cummings could have asked for a leave of absence.
----------------- me,i messed up
thank-you loretta...another rumour proven to be true, about ron.didn't even bother to call..could have asked for a leave of absence...so how is junior supposed to have health ins. now....he doesn't even try to act like a normal person should act.. he is acting like a sociopath, who thinks he can get away with anything...he causes people to suspect him more every day.
and why do you think they called the police? his temper?
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“That never happened,” he said from company headquarters in Eau Claire, Wisconsin. “Without that happening, at some point they filled his position. He was released.”
Cummings operated a rolling crane at the plant north of Palatka. He was not a longtime employee.
“We still have a great deal of sympathy for Mr. Cummings and his family and certainly hope for the best,” McCauley said.
Haleigh was reported missing just as Cummings was arriving home from work about 3 a.m. on Feb. 10 and his girlfriend said the youngster was gone. The girl has not been found despite an intense search and investigation that is still continuing.
Earlier McCauley said the company was willing to hold the job open but wouldn’t discuss if it was doing anything else to assist the family. But Wednesday he said a decision had to be made that was consistent and fair regarding other employees.
This week PDM asked Putnam County deputies to monitor shift changes at the plant that employs about 120 people and manufactures structural sections for steel bridges. McCauley would not say if the company had a specific reason for the request but only that it is done in some cases.
“It’s just a judgment call you make from employee to employee based on what might happen,” he said.
Lt. Johnny Greenwood of the Sheriff’s Office said deputies were stationed at the plant during the two daily shift changes beginning Monday. They wanted to make sure there were no disruptions in case Cummings was upset.
Officers did not encounter any either day, Greenwood said.
Calls to Palatka attorney Greg Kimball, who is representing Cummings, were not returned Wednesday.
Since his daughter’s disappearance, Cummings has had access to money donated for family expenses but which can only be released under state rules for such accounts.
http://jacksonville.com/news/metro/2009-04-15/story/haleighs_father_loses_his_job
lorettalockhorn
04-15-2009, 10:04 PM
I doubt Ronnie will be too very much upset--now he can collect unemployment, most likely.
Hayell no, he's not upset. If he wasn't sure that he could be on the dole, he would have called in and talked to his super or the HR guy about his options. Maybe he hasn't worked enough to qualify for unemployment insurance benefits, but no prob, he can just go around town and stick his hand in the collection jars.
Or put the Mizzez to work. LMAO
ErrinSpelling
04-15-2009, 10:08 PM
Hayell no, he's not upset. If he wasn't sure that he could be on the dole, he would have called in and talked to his super or the HR guy about his options. Maybe he hasn't worked enough to qualify for unemployment insurance benefits, but no prob, he can just go around town and stick his hand in the collection jars.
Or put the Mizzez to work. LMAO
the mizzez lol...well yall are right ...seems he wasn't upset, but they called the police, b/c they thought he might be....
lorettalockhorn
04-15-2009, 10:14 PM
the mizzez lol...well yall are right ...seems he wasn't upset, but they called the police, b/c they thought he might be....
hehehe Maybe they were afraid he'd show up with his 9mm and shoot up the place over his last paycheck. But wait, he's been of work for over two months. Wonder when his last paycheck was and how he got it?
ErrinSpelling
04-15-2009, 10:18 PM
post 151 on art harris WBG ,part 2, the new WBG:
art writes , he has the documents, and they are fascinating... we have all heard ron's lawyers deny his use of illegal drugs........why didn't the courts factor them in?.............................................
ErrinSpelling
04-15-2009, 10:20 PM
hehehe Maybe they were afraid he'd show up with his 9mm and shoot up the place over his last paycheck. But wait, he's been of work for over two months. Wonder when his last paycheck was and how he got it?
:) sadly that is what i was picturing, going postal.....they would mail it, if they had good sense.
ErrinSpelling
04-15-2009, 10:25 PM
Exclusive: White Boy Greg On The Bald Truth
EXCLUSIVE: “White Boy” Greg on The Bald Truth, Again!
By Art Harris, The Bald Truth, © artharris.com, all rights reserved
In an exclusive TV interview –the only on camera interview he’s given–Gregory Lewis Page, 28, sat down near his Palatka home and spoke with artharris.com, saying he spent the last weekend Haleigh Cummings was known to be alive partying with Misty Cummings– her soon to be 17 year old stepmother.
Private investigator and bounty hunter Williams Staubs, aka Cobra, tracked Page down, checked out his story and made the introduction. He told us the same thing Staubs says Page laid out for him–denied any knowledge of what happened to Haleigh. It was Misty, then soon to be bride of father Ronald Cummings, who reported Haleigh missing early Feb. 10–the day after Page last says he spoke with her. Now, Page tells artharris.com, he fears threats against him, and believes they are serious. Check out our complete interview on the next page, and on artharris.com, or BaldtruthTV.com.
Gregory Lewis Page, as told to artharris.com:
I feel like it was a kind of a rushed thing because right before she went back to him, she was with me, and she was telling me she left him because he was going to beat on her or whatever, they used to fight all the time…
I’m the mystery man. All sudden they just throw me out there as the mystery man hiding, behind the scenes, kinda makes me look guilty, ya know, how they throwed me out there, the media put me out there, ‘oh the mystery man. Instead of just saying, ‘Oh a friend.’
I just got caught up at a young age, I’m not a bad guy, and a lot of the things the media said about me, true enough, I went to jail for ‘em. But a lot of it wsa just being in the wrong place at the wrong time.
You know what I mean? The police charged me with other people’s drugs, I went through the process and beat it, but it’s still on there (my record). So it’s like a black eye, even though I didn’t get convicted…
Now they’re talking about, I worked for the cops, but I never had to do that. Now I got the same MOS as Ronald (Cummings) on the news because he had a lot of charges but no convictions. And no jail time, and I got the same kind of thing, but we’re different…
I didn’t force Misty do anything, they came to me. And we hung out, me her and her friend, Nay Nay, partying and getting high. I don’t want to be involved in all this. Period. That’s the bottom line.
Sooner or later, God‘s going to reveal it to everybody, let ‘em know the truth. And people who have no involvement will get freed out of it, and those who were actually involved will get prosecuted for it.
Hopefully people will take my side and know I’m telling the truth and could forgive me for my involvement in it, even though I have none. Just in the wrong place at the wrong time. Basically what it is
I had nothing to do with it and that’s pretty much were I stand at, you know. Don’t know anything.
When they brought me in, I didn’t know what was going on. They said, ‘We going to bring you in on this Haleigh Cummings. I didn’t think I (should have been) brought in at all, you know. I didn’t feel like I was going to be brought in because I had no involvement in it.
You know how people talk, I guess the investigators seen my phone number on her phone…and seen we had involvement and questioned her and I guess she told them and they came and got me
I was kinda worried about it (at first), but when they told me what was going on, I’m saying, ‘hey man, this is a bunch of crock, crocks of garbage, cause I know I ain’t did nothing.
Then Saturday, they (police) came back and got me and wanted me to take a lie detector test. They put this blood pressure cup on your arm and its very uncomfortable, and they ask you questions over and over again. And you get different responses in heart beat rates and all kinds of stuff like that, and they haven’t questioned me since.
I’m the good guy.
For me to pass a lie detector test and you still throw me into it…
I feel like what was thrown at me now, that I passed a lie detector test and you still throw me into it? Somebody had to mention my name, know what I mean?
To change the focus from the parents and put it on the ‘mystery man,’ know what I’m saying? So now, the whole world says, ‘Oh, he’s a black guy, he done it.’”
That’s the typical stereotype.
Everything I heard about him (Ronald Cummings), he was a piece of s—. To be honest with you, know what I mean? I heard he went round robbin’ people and stealing drugs and stuff like that, I don’t know I never dealt with him. I don’t know anything about him.
(For his part, Ronald Has drug arrests but no convictions, and his attorney has denied in a press release he uses only prescription meds, no illegal drugs).
“He was on one side of Putnam County, I was on the other. If someone has the heart to take a gun and rob a drug man in a drug hole, they could be capable of anything. Cause it take some balls to go in there and just strong-arm somebody.
(Cummings denies he’s ever committed such a violent act, even against drug dealers, but that’s one rumor police sources tell the investigators have ruled out.)
Page: I let God handle my problems. I try not to worry about anything, cause God ain’t gonna take you to anything he can’t take you through. That’s my philosophy on life, you know.
We were just riding around, typical Friday and Saturday night. Just riding around having fun, just me, Misty and Nay Nay.
I don’t remember the last day, but I’m sure I like seen her Sunday.And that was the last day I seen her. But Monday, I did talk to Misty. And she told me she was at the hospital with her Dad, because her Dad had been in a car a wreck. And she said, ‘I’ll call you back, and never heard from her again.”
But I haven’t tried to contact her since because I want to stay the hell away from her.
Now I understand her parents are riding around trying to find out where I stay at, making death threats on me.
(The Croslins deny any desire to harm Page and deny making such threats).
I don’t know why they’d want to harm me. They should be more concerned about the child than to try to harm somebody else.
Harming me isn’t going got solve the problem– the child is still going to be gone. And it’s nothing can be done about it until it’s solved.
If I could put myself in their shoes, I wouldn’t be concerned about anything other than my child brought home safely.
Running around town trying to get free stuff (as Ronald Cummings has been reportedly trying to do), I wouldn’t be thinking about that stuff, just my child brought home safely.
I sympathize with the family, I wouldn’t want my child to be abducted.
http://www.artharris.com/2009/04/11/exclusive-white-boy-greg-on-the-bald-truth/#more-1596
this is loretta's link for post 151
:) sadly that is what i was picturing, going postal.....they would mail it, if they had good sense.
Seems to be a big company--headquarters in another state and all. Perhaps they use direct deposit? When they started DD where I work, you had no choice but to get a bank account to accommodate DD, as they paid no other way. Period.
ErrinSpelling
04-15-2009, 10:51 PM
Seems to be a big company--headquarters in another state and all. Perhaps they use direct deposit? When they started DD where I work, you had no choice but to get a bank account to accommodate DD, as they paid no other way. Period.
really? interesting.
DrewBerry
04-15-2009, 10:58 PM
i enjoy it here tooooo! how is your mother? you?
Thanks for asking Errin. Dad's suicide has complicated the grief process, especially for my mother. She seems to be coming along OK as long as I'm here holding her hand 24-7. (Which is taking its toll on me.) My hope is that she agrees to get to a bereavement support group or speak to her pastor.
Since I am a licensed family therapist, she seems to think I can be her personal "counselor". I've got my own grief issues to deal with. I've been unemployed since Feb. 20 and as soon as I can land another job, the better we both will be.
Sorry, to go off topic. But I felt comfortable sharing. Thank you everyone for your kind words.
DrewB
DrewBerry
04-15-2009, 11:03 PM
hehehe Maybe they were afraid he'd show up with his 9mm and shoot up the place over his last paycheck. But wait, he's been of work for over two months. Wonder when his last paycheck was and how he got it?
Speaks volumes about Ronnie boy, doesn't it Loretta . . .that he wasn't in touch with his boss to retain his job----after all, he's got another child (or 2 if you count his new wife) to provide for. I still can't get over that $400 he blew on that stupid tattoo. This guy is dumber than a box of rocks! Where's Jr. and who is supporting him? Bet they're all relying on welfare.
DrewB
ErrinSpelling
04-15-2009, 11:03 PM
Thanks for asking Errin. Dad's suicide has complicated the grief process, especially for my mother. She seems to be coming along OK as long as I'm here holding her hand 24-7. (Which is taking its toll on me.) My hope is that she agrees to get to a bereavement support group or speak to her pastor.
Since I am a licensed family therapist, she seems to think I can be her personal "counselor". I've got my own grief issues to deal with. I've been unemployed since Feb. 20 and as soon as I can land another job, the better we both will be.
Sorry, to go off topic. But I felt comfortable sharing. Thank you everyone for your kind words.
DrewB
i am glad you feel comfortable sharing.we are all like a big happy family here.
i hope she listens to you & that that will help you both!
Speaks volumes about Ronnie boy, doesn't it Loretta . . .that he wasn't in touch with his boss to retain his job----after all, he's got another child (or 2 if you count his new wife) to provide for. I still can't get over that $400 he blew on that stupid tattoo. This guy is dumber than a box of rocks! Where's Jr. and who is supporting him? Bet they're all relying on welfare.
DrewB
He was very adamant that the tat was donated to him, tho.
lorettalockhorn
04-16-2009, 12:24 AM
Thanks for asking Errin. Dad's suicide has complicated the grief process, especially for my mother. She seems to be coming along OK as long as I'm here holding her hand 24-7. (Which is taking its toll on me.) My hope is that she agrees to get to a bereavement support group or speak to her pastor.
Since I am a licensed family therapist, she seems to think I can be her personal "counselor". I've got my own grief issues to deal with. I've been unemployed since Feb. 20 and as soon as I can land another job, the better we both will be.
Sorry, to go off topic. But I felt comfortable sharing. Thank you everyone for your kind words.
DrewB
Just butting in to say that it's good to see you here; was thinking about you today. Hope your Mom will reach out to another source and I hope the pastor is doing his best to step in wearing his pastoral care hat. (Some don't offer it unless it's asked for, or that's been my experience.) I wish you both nothing but the best and though it's difficult, I'm glad that you have each other.
http://i17.tinypic.com/62o3m2f.jpg
Keep on trucking!
lorettalockhorn
04-16-2009, 12:27 AM
Speaks volumes about Ronnie boy, doesn't it Loretta . . .that he wasn't in touch with his boss to retain his job----after all, he's got another child (or 2 if you count his new wife) to provide for. I still can't get over that $400 he blew on that stupid tattoo. This guy is dumber than a box of rocks! Where's Jr. and who is supporting him? Bet they're all relying on welfare.
DrewB
Well, hell. He's reputed to be Amber's son too. He fought Crystal for custody and the fact that he had a job was important to the judge; what's he going to use for ammo now? That he can go around town and put his hand in the cookie jar?
deacon
04-16-2009, 07:21 AM
Seems to be a big company--headquarters in another state and all. Perhaps they use direct deposit? When they started DD where I work, you had no choice but to get a bank account to accommodate DD, as they paid no other way. Period.
More than likely it is DD. Most companies of any size do that now for security reasons. Both for the employee's check and for security at the job site. You don't want someone getting fired and "going postal" on the site. It just gets ugly when they do. A construction site is not a good place to go postal for several reasons. On a lot of these sites people who have a temper problem even don't want to get nasty. They normally get a "mudhole stomped" in them. There are some quiet people in construction who can hurt you.
lorettalockhorn
04-16-2009, 10:20 AM
Well, hell. He's reputed to be Amber's son too. He fought Crystal for custody and the fact that he had a job was important to the judge; what's he going to use for ammo now? That he can go around town and put his hand in the cookie jar?
Correction: Cummings is supposedly Amber's son's father, not her son. :rolleyes: See? That's what potato chips and wine for supper will do to you. Don't drink and post!
Justice Denied?
04-16-2009, 02:33 PM
Thanks for asking Errin. Dad's suicide has complicated the grief process, especially for my mother. She seems to be coming along OK as long as I'm here holding her hand 24-7. (Which is taking its toll on me.) My hope is that she agrees to get to a bereavement support group or speak to her pastor.
Since I am a licensed family therapist, she seems to think I can be her personal "counselor". I've got my own grief issues to deal with. I've been unemployed since Feb. 20 and as soon as I can land another job, the better we both will be.
Sorry, to go off topic. But I felt comfortable sharing. Thank you everyone for your kind words.
DrewB
Drew,
I think about you a lot and wanted you to know you and your mom are still on my prayer list. May God give you strength and peace at this difficult time. I will also pray about your job situation.
wind149
04-16-2009, 03:10 PM
Drew, my heart goes out to you, it has to be hard to have to wear two hats, and complicating things is that your own mother is your pt so to speak, is it like you have become the parent instead of the child? And it really sucks you lost your job, they lost a valuable member if you ask me and this is the shape of things to come when in your field, pink slips are handed out, not what you would expect with this world so crazy these days. As for these losers, I know people who have lost children and they HAD to go back to work, they were not about to go on welfare so once again my feelings about these hillbilly cretins have been correct all along and if he was a valuable member of that company they would surely have held his job, maybe even gave him severance pay.
My friend's son unfortunately is in jail for 18 months and the whole thing is f*cked up. He and friends went up to UP and were partying on a lake and other people tied up to their boat and like young people do, hang out and have a good time. One of Theo's friends innocently chucked a beer cap and it went down a girl's bra and the boyfriend went nuts and it turned into a brawl and Theo to save his life, a guy was trying to drown him, hit the guy with a bottle and the guy sustained brain damage and would you not know his Daddy is a DA in another county and what does he do ? Illegally, got the case transferred to his docket without giving a good reason for the change of venue and he threw the book at Theo and two of his friends and they go to jail and this kid was making $90,000 a year and now he sits in prison and it breaks my heart because he is a kid you would want your daughter to marry. Luckily, he was classified as non-violent and is in a medium secure prison and he is actually working for the warden and he is trying to get him out on early parole, I wrote many a letter on his behalf and luckily because he is a valuable member of his job, they are holding it for him because they believe in him too, big cry from Ronnie huh?
Company probably could not wait to get rid of him, wonder if anyone there saw his rage?? When I started to get sick, I was taking sick leave and no one could figure out why because I never had, usually took it for extra time off or a bigger paycheck and the female sheriff that came on board after I left, told me she would hire me back anytime I was ready to come back, but I don't think I can work a full time job, beautiful day here, and I feel lousy today, achy and I went outside and got some air, but I am gonna go lay down and take a nap, but you know what happens? I think about all these children, missing or dead and I don't even know them, I wake with dread, I turn on the news and am afraid that CNN will be reporting that they found Haleigh's body and last week it was that way with Sandra and I was sick when my sister called to tell me that she had been found dead and she was the one to call me and tell me that Caylee had been found, I was taking a nap that day.
lorettalockhorn
04-16-2009, 06:21 PM
Wind, hope you're feeling better than when you posted. :seeya:
Picazio is on Prime News, she answered the question about Crystal being in arrears on her child support straightforwardly, but then at the end of her segment she seemed to downplay that a little. Honestly that bothers me. FHATE deadbeat parents. Can't afford the one's you have? Don't have more!
TH is saying that Ron's loss of a job isn't monumental to whatever child custody issues there are or may occur. Picazio reports that DCF is around day forty of the sixty days allowed to complete their investigation. She mentions that the fitness of Cummings' home includes whether or not he will be the suitable custodial parent for Junior and eventually Haleigh again. She mentions that domestic violence is certainly a factor.
TJ Hart(?) is mention Misty's Double Life. tehee Wish LE would ask Misty to speak to a forensic psychiatrist or consider hypnosis (although apparently some states don't allow courtroom testimony by persons who have been hypnotized) if the occasion should ever arise.
DrewBerry
04-16-2009, 08:05 PM
You guys are the greatest! I send my sincere gratitude for all the supportive posts and prayers. I so enjoy being part of this board. If I disappear for awhile, it's only because of ongoing stressors and time limitations.
THANK YOU ALL for thinking of me. Be well everyone.
DrewB
Nawny
04-16-2009, 09:40 PM
You guys are the greatest! I send my sincere gratitude for all the supportive posts and prayers. I so enjoy being part of this board. If I disappear for awhile, it's only because of ongoing stressors and time limitations.
THANK YOU ALL for thinking of me. Be well everyone.
DrewB
(((((Drewberry))))))
Fa Couragia!
Justice Denied?
04-17-2009, 03:36 PM
Hayell no, he's not upset. If he wasn't sure that he could be on the dole, he would have called in and talked to his super or the HR guy about his options. Maybe he hasn't worked enough to qualify for unemployment insurance benefits, but no prob, he can just go around town and stick his hand in the collection jars.
Or put the Mizzez to work. LMAO
The money in those jars is supposed to be split with Crystal. I hope someone nabs him on it.
lorettalockhorn
04-17-2009, 05:42 PM
JD, those rumors are pretty rampant, could be just that: rumors from the haters. (I mean, I'm a hater and here I am passing it on.) Maybe by now someone has reported the issue with an eyewitness account. Otherwise it's just another distraction for LE.
lorettalockhorn
04-17-2009, 11:49 PM
$24 Million Worth of Drugs Seized in Putnam County
PALATKA, FL -- A drug investigation by joint agencies across Florida netted nearly 11 arrests and took nearly $24 million worth of cocaine and marijuana off the streets of Putnam County -- the largest bust to date.
Teamwork between the Putnam County Drug/Vice Unit, agents from the Drug Enforcement Administration, and Immigration & Customs Enforcement agents made it possible to seize 85 kilograms of powdered cocaine, 15 pounds of marijuana and one pound of crack cocaine.
An agent with the DEA estimated the street value of the drugs being approximately $24 million.
Several thousands of dollars in cash, two vehicles, and several pieces of electronic equipment were also taken as a result of the search.
Sheriff Jeff Hardy noted this drug confiscation has the highest dollar value of any seizure in Putnam County's history.
The drugs were stored inside two houses on San Jose Avenue in East Palatka. After agents obtained search warrants they went inside and arrested 11 individuals.
All the suspects were inside the houses at the time of the bust. Nine people were arrested, and two are being detained for questioning as part of an ongoing investigation.
The following suspects were arrested and booked into the Putnam County Jail:
57-year-old James Charles Jones, Jr
76-year-old James Blocker
49-year-old Albertano Hernandez-Sanchez
22-year-old Nichole Hogan
36-year-old Phyllis Johnson
57-year-old Bernie Gibson
32-year-old Korey White
44-year-old Robbi Hadded
42-year-old Kevin Allen
http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/local/news-article.aspx?storyid=136123&catid=3
Sounds like there's some big guns operating in Putnam County.
lorettalockhorn
04-18-2009, 02:22 PM
Exclusive: Haleigh Cummings Mom Blasts Back!
With a bitter, on-going fight between parents of Haleigh Cummings over who’s most fit for custody, now the war has escalated to war between law firms representing the parents.
In a biting statement we’re breaking here, Crystal Sheffield’s Miami attorney, Kim Picazio, is blasting local lawyers for Ronald Cummings over what she’s calling “unethical, unprofessional, and amateurish personal rants” about her—-not to mention attacks against William Staubs, aka Cobra, a colorful private investigator and bounty hunter who “has worked countless hours to find their client’s missing child.”
Picazio says Cummings lawyers don’t return her calls, and only communicate via press releases containing “abrasive and unnecessary attacks and comical conspiracy theories.”
Lawyers attacking lawyers out of the courtroom? First Casey Anthony, now Haleigh Cummings? Two escaped convicts on the loose in Putnam County? A missing girl’s father fired. Now family lawyers duking it out against the backdrop of a stalled police investigation? Can it get any crazier?
We’ve put press releases by Cummings’ lawyers on The Bald Truth attacking her, and feel it’s only fair to publish a response by attorney Kim Picazio.
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“Ronald’s attorneys’ once-in-awhile press releases continue to ooze unethical, unprofessional, and amateurish personal rants about Crystal Sheffield’s lawyer, as well as the highly qualified licensed Private Investigator who has worked countless hours to find their client’s missing child.
“The law firm’s abrasive and unnecessary attacks and comical conspiracy theories against another member of the Florida Bar are telling. Obviously, they are at a loss for exculpatory information to offer the general public in rebuttal to their client’s recently uncovered depraved lifestyle and egregious behavior exhibited both before, and after, little Haleigh Cummings’ disappearance.
It is difficult for any individual to conceal “the truth” from the media and/or extremely competent journalists who have been following the search for missing Haleigh Cummings.
The nation has shown a fervent interest and demand for the facts surrounding this tragedy, and the media has delivered a solid insight into the same.
Ronald Cummings lifestyle, behavior, and level of irresponsibility, have been ardently uncovered by well-seasoned journalists for the world to see.
If the truth and the facts are unflattering, or even scathing - the facts are the facts. Ronald Cummings now coined defense to the disclosure of all he undoubtedly strove to conceal, has been only remind the public that the mother of Haleigh Cummings owes him child support.
However, Mr. Cummings’ attorneys’ latest press release fails to mention that Mr. Cummings has willfully turned his back on his own legal and moral obligations to a child - his infant son, age one. He financially, emotionally, and physically abandoned his disabled infant child less than one (1) year ago - a child born to but another of his teen girlfriends/victims.
Haleigh remains missing. The Putnam County Sheriff’s Office has publicly stated that the teenager responsible for caring for Haleigh Cummings on the night of her disappearance has given inconsistent statements to the authorities.
Such inconsistencies have, according to law enforcement, impeded their investigation. On the heels this frustrating revelation, Ronald Cummings chose to marry the same teenager whose inconsistencies have frustrated authorities investigating his daughter’s disappearance.
And now we know that Ronald Cummings willingly left his young children in the care of that same teenager whom he knew was using illicit drugs in the immediate days prior to Haleigh’s disappearance. Crystal Sheffield’s little girl has not been found. If the truth about Ronald Cummings’ lifestyle or teen bride could lead law enforcement closer to finding Haleigh, not one of us should close our eyes or stay silent. We need to find out what happened to Haleigh while she was in Misty Croslin’s custody.
We will keep asking the hard questions, ferreting out fact from fiction, delving deeply, sometimes uncomfortably, into the lifestyles of all persons of interest, and keeping the public aware of our findings - all in our endless pursuit of clues as to Haleigh’s disappearance.
Unlike Ronald Cummings, Haleigh’s mother, Crystal Sheffield, her family, friends, and well-wishers from across the country, continue to keep the search for little Haleigh in the public eye - refusing to let this precious missing girl become a cold case. Haleigh’s mother and volunteer supporters have continue to distribute Amber Alert flyers by the thousands, Haleigh Tee Shirts, Car Stickers, Lapel Pins, Wrist Bands, and Necklaces. Every tip and lead given to Haleigh’s mom and/or her representatives is zealously followed up upon by eager investigators working around the clock to find Haleigh. At every local or community event, you will find Sheffield, her family, and friends distributing flyers and/or other materials to keep the search for Haleigh alive and thriving.
And yes, you bet that Crystal’s legal team will take every opportunity to remind the nation that Haleigh Cummings’ disappearance remains an unsolved mystery. Crystal’s representatives will continue to “scream from the mountain tops” to ensure no one forgets Haleigh is missing, and to seek protection for Haleigh’s four (4) year old little brother remaining in Ronald and Misty Cummings’ home.
Instead of getting married to an individual claimed by police to be hindering their investigation, Crystal Sheffield has opened The Haleigh Bug Center, a central community gathering location in Satsuma, Florida. The HB Center is not a business. Instead, it serves as a central location for Haleigh’s mother, friends, family, and other volunteers to distribute information about Haleigh, and coordinate future events to increase public awareness of her continued disappearance.
The Haleigh Bug Center has also become an invaluable resource for the intake of tips and leads about Haleigh’s disappearance and the days that led up to this tragedy.
All useful information is given directly to the Putnam County Sheriff’s office for further investigation. Good hearted citizens have travelled hundreds of miles to visit the Haleigh Bug Center to offer support to Haleigh’s mother in her never ending quest to locate her daughter. Crystal Sheffield will not stop, and she will not stay silent.
If anyone has any relevant information which could possibly assist law enforcement in discovering the truth of what happened in Ronald Cummings’ residence on the date of Haleigh’s disappearance, let the truth be known.
My office made numerous requests to Ronald Cummings’s lawyers for a meeting to discuss this case, child support issues, and our concerns about the welfare of little Junior living in Mr. Cummings home with Misty Croslin. After our fourth unanswered message, we received a letter from Kimball & Snyder declining my invitation.
http://www.artharris.com/2009/04/18/exclusive-haleigh-cummings-mom-blasts-back/#more-1632
lorettalockhorn
04-18-2009, 02:41 PM
Haleigh Cummings Dad Protests Firing!
Under attack by the mother of their missing five year old daughter, Haleigh, for alleged abuse and his new bride’s purported former party girl lifestyle, Ronald Cummings has fired back at the bio Mom, and the engineering company that fired him as a crane operator, a job loss that could factor into future custody disputes.
Indeed, a steady job with health insurance was cited by a Putnam County judge who granted Ronald custody of Haleigh and “Junior”in 2005, in the now resurrected, swampland “War of the Roses” with bio Mom Chrystal Sheffield. Now Ronald’s lawyers are hinting he may sue Palatka, Florida’s PDM Bridge company for wrongful termination.
“From the time of Haleigh’s disappearance,” his Palatka, Fla. attorneys said in a press release Thursday, “Ronald Cummings was told that his employer was holding his job open…that he could start back to work on Monday, April 6, 2009.
“Ronald agreed to this date and was prepared to go in to work when he was told on Friday, April 3, 2009 that the offer to return to work was being withdrawn for “abandoning his job.”
After he was fired, PDM asked for deputies with the Putnam County Sheriff’s Department to cruise the sprawling yard of the respected steel fabricator and engineering construction firm, a mere precaution to avert potential violence from terminated employees.
Cars patrolled for several days without a Ronald siting, or an incident, police tell me.
“It’s a judgment call you make sometimes,” PDM human resources director Tony McCauley told The Bald Truth in an exclusive interview Friday from headquarters in Eau Claire, Wisconsin.
“Ronald expressed his displeasure with the company for going back on its word, but at no time threatened anyone,” his attorney’s said in their release.
“We are obviously very sympathetic to the tragedy that happened,” McCauley told me, adding that PDM was “very patient” with Cummings, but was never notified if or when he would return. He confirmed Ronald had recently finished a 3-month probationary trial period for new employees, but never filed an official request for a leave of absence to keep the job open.
“If an employee applies for a leave in a hardship situation like that, we try to work with them,” he told me, “but when we realized that hadn’t happened, we had to move on…There are a lot of people out there calling us for jobs, begging us for jobs, and that’s what some people probably don’t understand.
“You try to be as patient as you can; we held the job open for some time, but you have to draw the line with an employer-employee relationship. I can’t imagine what the family must be going through, but we are also running a business.”
Indeed, the business of PDM is steel fabrication and bridge building, breath-taking spans that include the famous St. Louis Arch finished in 1965, and considered one of the architectural wonders of the world. PDM has build bridges across giant canyons and rivers, worked for NASA; its website, PDMBridge.com, displays gleaming, seemingly superhuman feats of engineering.
Firing with both barrels, Cummings lawyers also blasted bio-Mom Chrystal Sheffield for shirking thousands of dollars in back child support she owes him, noting her similar jobless status and chided the media for delving into Cummings’ “private life” with a new bride whose friends regaled The Bald Truth with alleged tales of excess, including a three day party of drugs, sex and drinking the weekend before she reported Haleigh missing about 3 a.m. Feb. 10 from the trailer where she was living with Ronald. Misty (then Croslin) was babysitting.
Sheffield attorney Kim Picazio says Ronald’s firing could factor into her custody fight for Haleigh’s baby brother, but she’s especially troubled by the party lifestyle of the 17 year old stepmom private investigators like Williams Staubs, a Florida bounty hunter who goes by the street name, Cobra, has been uncovering.
http://www.artharris.com/2009/04/18/haleigh-cummings-dad-protests-firing/#more-1624
lorettalockhorn
04-18-2009, 02:45 PM
To read Cummings attorneys’ recent full statements, and Picazio’s response, read on.
April 16, 2009
This press release is in response to the Florida Times-Union article of today’s date.
Ronald Cummings in the last two months has had to deal not only with the disappearance of his daughter Haleigh, but also false muckraking allegations by attorney Kim Picazio, representing Crystal Sheffield, and Picazio’s personal friend “Cobra.”
From the time of Haleigh’s disappearance, Ronald Cummings was told that his employer was holding his job open. He was told by his employer that he could start back to work on Monday, April 6, 2009. Ronald agreed to this date and was prepared to go into work when he was told on Friday, April 3, 2009 that the offer to return to work was being withdrawn for “abandoning his job.”
Ronald expressed his displeasure with the company for going back on its word, but at no time threatened anyone.
This office has referred Ronald to a Daytona Beach law firm that handles labor and employment law.
It should be noted that Crystal Sheffield is currently thousands of dollars in arrears for child support. She has not been gainfully employed in approximately two years. When Crystal and Ronald lived together it was mainly Ronald’s grandmother that cared for their children since Crystal was usually watching TV.
This office anticipates providing Department of Children and Families (DCF) with new information on a confidential basis in the near future.
It is ironic that the last Florida Times Union article by Dana Treen on April 5, 2009 bemoaned that the squabbles and personal differences of Haleigh’s parents have distracted from the search for Haleigh. The article blamed both sides equally. The article was rebutted in a press release from this office (which is being re-printed and follows this release).
Now Dana Treen wants to wade into personal matters on the side of Crystal Sheffield. Which is it, Mr. Treen?
(Signed)
Greg Kimball
PRESS RELEASE
April 6, 2009
This press release is in response to the Sunday, April 5, 2009 Florida Times Union article on the Haleigh Cummings case.
The headline of the article was “Family Feud Takes Focus off Search for Haleigh.” Both Ronald Cummings, the father of Haleigh, and Crystal Sheffield, the mother of Haleigh, were blamed equally.
The reporter for the Florida Times Union failed to give a proper perspective on this issue.
A few facts need to be clarified:
1. It was Crystal Sheffield who chose to launch a Department of Children and Families (DCF) investigation about Ronald Cummings, as part of preparation for a custody battle over Ronald Cummings, Jr., rather than focus on the search for Haleigh.
2. Crystal Sheffield got attorney Kim Picazio from Ft. Lauderdale, Florida to represent her. Attorney Picazio has been on television at every opportunity seeking publicity for herself and about family law issues.
3. Attorney Kim Picazio has admitted on television that the so-called investigator William E. Staubs, who refers to himself as “COBRA,” is a personal friend. Cobra arrived in Putnam County from Ft. Lauderdale [sic] shortly after Haleigh went missing and has been feeding information to Picazio and some media.
4. Ronald Cummings had to obtain legal counsel in self defense of the public allegations by Sheffield-Picazio, and also regarding Sheffield-Picazio allegations to DCF.
5. That Kimball & Snider, P.A. only got involved in this case on March 18, 2009, approximately five weeks after Haleigh went missing. Our initial press release (a copy of which follows) of March 19, 2009, in paragraph three (3) stated that Sheffield-Picazio allegations about family law manners were detracting from the search for Haleigh.
6. That Kimball & Snider, P.A. got involved in this case because Ronald Cummings, at the urging of a family member, called our Palatka office. Palatka is about five miles from Satsuma where Ronald resided.
7. Kimball & Snider, P.A. has responded through press releases to rebut and correct Sheffield-Picazio allegations. We have not appeared on national tv or even given any interviews to local media.
8. Kimball & Snider, P.A. has provided information on a confidential basis to DCF and Putnam County Sheriff’s Office (PCSO) about this case, and will continue to act responsibly to assist DCF and PCSO.
(Signed)
Greg Kimball
T. Jerry Snider
http://www.artharris.com/2009/04/18/haleigh-cummings-dad-protests-firing/#more-1624
My head is spinning. Guess I should have slept a little longer, lol!!!
I guess, if the lawyers are @ it publicly, in the papers and all, that keeps some of the heat off Ronald, Misti and Crystal, for sure. And, regardless of what people say about this carp not helping in the search for Haleigh, what it DOES do is to keep Haleigh's plight in the headlines and national news even on days (or weeks) when there is no information on the progress of the investigation.
I guess, if I were to have to choose between what PDM says did nor did not occur in relation to his job, or what Ronald Cummings says, well, @ this point I'd have to think PDM is more likely telling the way it happened. I really am surprised, tho, that Ronnie doesn't just take the unemployment--more money than he is getting right now, and he doesn't even have to punch a time clock, worry about being on time, calling in sick, etc. Unless he (and maybe some lawyers) think they can get bigger bucks for wrongful dismissal. I don't see where they can go with that, unless they can PROVE the April 6 deal. There isn't a company around who would be required to hold a job for an employee who doesn't @ some point contact them about needing a leave. Even tho this is a well-known case.
lorettalockhorn
04-18-2009, 04:33 PM
These "distractions" are the only thing that's kept Haleigh's abduction on the front burner for weeks now, since the SO isn't updating the public. And if the SO isn't utilizing these side issues to get an idea of what's likely going on with the players and how they operate, they're missing out on some important behaviors.
And why the SO doesn't ask Misty to sit down with a forensic psychiatrist to at least make an attempt to come up with a timeline beats the hell out of me. The FBI is involved (at least they were in the beginning); where's their profile?
ETA: I can't wait to see what agreement Cummings is armed with if he tries to sue PDM.
Native Alien
04-18-2009, 10:11 PM
Leonard did another live chat this evening and he said that he thinks that Haleigh is still alive and that she went missing because of something that Ron did in the prior weeks. He thinks that it is retribution or someone wanting Ron to set something right.
Personally I disagree with him. I don't think that Haleigh is still alive, not after all this time and I think that Misti and Ron know exactly what happened to her.
lighthousedazy
04-18-2009, 11:14 PM
Leonard did another live chat this evening and he said that he thinks that Haleigh is still alive and that she went missing because of something that Ron did in the prior weeks. He thinks that it is retribution or someone wanting Ron to set something right.
Personally I disagree with him. I don't think that Haleigh is still alive, not after all this time and I think that Misti and Ron know exactly what happened to her.I think you are right, but I guess we can always hope she is still alive. Sadly I believe this has something to do with a drug deal and I don't think these scumbags would keep this child alive after 2 months, but there is always hope. :rose:
Native Alien
04-19-2009, 05:27 AM
I think you are right, but I guess we can always hope she is still alive. Sadly I believe this has something to do with a drug deal and I don't think these scumbags would keep this child alive after 2 months, but there is always hope. :rose:
I have heard conflicting reports on this next piece of information so if anyone can verify it I would really appreciate it. I have read that Haleigh used an inhaler on a regular basis. That is what the grandmother was talking about that was missing from the trailer.
If she were taken because of something that Ron did, I don't see those people keeping her alive this long either. Not to mention that the way that Ron and his Mother talked, Haleigh was a frequent visitor to her doctor.
Woostock
04-19-2009, 06:24 AM
I thought the FBI was involved at some point. What are they doing to solve this case? Haven't heard much about that lately. I guess as time goes on the chances of Haleigh being alive will diminish. Ron and Bimbo know what happened; thus the marriage. they are parents in words only; I wouldn't leave a gerbil with them never mind a child. Drugs and whatever else; where is Family Services? Get Jr out of there.
Justice Denied?
04-19-2009, 11:35 AM
I just wish this case could have turned out like Sandra Cantu with Haleigh's body located and laid to rest and the person responsible in jail. Or her safe return, if possible. I just feel like LE should have done more in the beginning. This was one botched investigation.
Woostock
04-19-2009, 11:42 AM
justice
it is beginning to look as if LE botched it, doesn't it? I hope we are wrong
with this assessment of LE. Can you imagine if Ron and Misty can outwit the LE how incompetent the LE must be??? I mean, it should be a no brainer since
Ron and Misty are among the stupid of the stupid.
lorettalockhorn
04-19-2009, 11:44 AM
I thought the FBI was involved at some point. What are they doing to solve this case? Haven't heard much about that lately. I guess as time goes on the chances of Haleigh being alive will diminish. Ron and Bimbo know what happened; thus the marriage. they are parents in words only; I wouldn't leave a gerbil with them never mind a child. Drugs and whatever else; where is Family Services? Get Jr out of there.
KP said the other night on one of the HLN programs that DCF is about forty days into a sixty day investigative period.
I find it hard to believe that whoever was cruel and vengeful enough to take Haleigh would keep her alive all this time. If Haleigh was taken to teach Cummings a lesson, has he come through yet?
Native Alien
04-20-2009, 01:52 AM
Art Harris confirmed that Cobra was back in Satsuma over the weekend. I don't know if he is still there or not.
Maybe he can get that re enactment done now.
ErrinSpelling
04-20-2009, 01:48 PM
Art Harris confirmed that Cobra was back in Satsuma over the weekend. I don't know if he is still there or not.
Maybe he can get that re enactment done now.
tj hart just interviewed cobra....
it sounded like you can send donations for cobra's work to case closed incorporated at
any sun trust bank ???
everbody wake up! the joint is jumpin & i don't mean the jazz song.
i think cobra said a pastor brought him to satsuma?
lorettalockhorn
04-20-2009, 03:09 PM
REPORTERS NOTES 4/20/09 by TJ Hart
12:05 a.m.
I am chasing down information received at 11:48 pm by phone Sunday referencing a possible BOLO alert for Ron Cummings Sr. who is the father of missing 5-year-old Satsuma girl, Haleigh Cummings.
I was tipped by an informant, who shall be refered to as "Digs," in Putnam County, FL that a 911 call was made between 9 p.m. and 10 p.m. stating that the father, Ronald Cummings Sr. sent his 4 year-old son, Ron Jr., to the door of his former girlfriend, Amber, in an attempt to lure the child he and Amber produced to come outside.
The information received from my informant also stated that a tall, thin male was also present near Ron Jr.
Our sources says that this was an attempt by Ron to take this child.
It’s been reported that Ronald Cummings Sr. is now behind in his support for that child.
9:35 a.m.
Contact was made with Lt. Johnny Greenwood to verify a BOLO (be on the lookout) for Ronald Cummings Sr. regarding a 911 call Sunday, April 19, at about 9:20 p.m.. The call allegedly from Amber Brooks where sources claim Ron tried to use his son, Ron Jr., to lure the child of Ron and Amber to the door in order to take him.
Lt. Greenwood said he could not verify that action and told me it was the first he'd heard of it.
Greenwood was then asked about Amber Brooks and Christina Rene Prevatt (a.k.a. Nay Nay) being arrested on drug charges. He confirmed the arrests and bookings.
Amber Brooks (DOB 3-29-89) was arrested on charges of possession of cocaine, introduction of contraband into a detention facility and failure to appear. Her bond is set at $2512. Booking time 8:04 a.m. ET.
Christina Rene Prevatt (aka "Nay Nay" DOB 5-30-90) was arrested on charges of possession of cocaine and introduction of contraband into a detention facility. Her bond is set at $2008. Booking time 8:39 a.m. ET.
Prevatt is the woman who introduced Misty Croslin-Cummings to Greg Page for a weekend of drugs and sex the weekend before Haleigh Cummings was taken from her Satsuma home. Misty was the last person to see Haleigh before she was abducted.
NEW AUDIO 4/20/09 11 a.m.COBRA DETAILS THE LAST 24 HOURS!!!!!
See an interview with "Nay Nay" on www.artharris.com.
4/18/09 at Haleigh Bug Headquarters
I visited the Haleigh Bug headquarters late Saturday afternoon on my way back from a conference in Jacksonville, FL earlier in the day.
The purple, one-story Haleigh Bug building is located at 1185 U.S. 17 in Satsuma. It's named for the nickname used for missing Haleigh Cummings.
It was there I visited with Haleigh's mother, Crystal Sheffield. Ms. Sheffield had just returned to the area that day before after taking some time to recouperate in Baker County from a small series of seizures.
Crystal appeared to be very tired and her skin appeared to have a grey to yellowish tint, but her resolve to find her daughter remained undetered.
Crystal did not elaborate, but she said she had received some tips on her MySpace page regarding a possible sighting of Haleigh in another state. She told me she passed that information on to law enforcement and her attorney, Kim Picazzio.
If it was possible to witness a person looking both hopeful and sad at the same time, I think I saw it Saturday in Crystal's face when she told me about the possible sighting. I could tell she felt optimistic about the thought her child is still alive, but also cautious since so many sighting have turned out to be false.
Someone is at the Haleigh Bugheadquarters, 24 hours a day to take calls and tips regarding the search for Haleigh Cummings.
Haleigh Cummings has not been seen since the night of February 9 when her father's then girlfriend, Misty Croslin, put her to bed.
If you want to donate to the Haleigh Bug Foundation, call (954) 553-6514.
http://www.thesky973.com/pages/4014463.php
lorettalockhorn
04-20-2009, 03:12 PM
Haven't found the interview with Nay Nay at Art Harris/The Bald Truth.
Am wondering how a four year old lures a one year old+ disabled child out of a home. :confused::shrug::eek:
lorettalockhorn
04-20-2009, 03:15 PM
AMBER NICOLE BROOKS
SAN MATEO, FL
Booking#: 09-01568 - Booking Date & Time: 4/20/2009 8:04:22 AM
DOB: 3/29/1989 - RACE: W - SEX: F
Charges Misd/Felony Degree Bond Bond Posted
893.13-6a COCAINE-POSSESS POSSESS COCAINE F T $1,004.00
951.22-1 SMUGGLE CONTRABAND INTRODUCE INTO DETENTION FACILITY F T $1,004.00
843.15-1a FAILURE TO APPEAR F T $504.00
$2,512.00
http://public.pcso.us/jail/bookingDetails.aspx?SYSID=753547&IMG=56921
KRISTINA RENEE PREVATT
San Mateo , FL
Booking#: 09-01569 - Booking Date & Time: 4/20/2009 8:36:49 AM
DOB: 5/30/1990 - RACE: W - SEX: F
Charges Misd/Felony Degree Bond Bond Posted
893.13-6a COCAINE-POSSESS POSSESS COCAINE F T $1,004.00
951.22-1 SMUGGLE CONTRABAND INTRODUCE INTO DETENTION FACILITY F T $1,004.00
$2,008.00
http://public.pcso.us/jail/bookingDetails.aspx?SYSID=753549&IMG=37631
Native Alien
04-20-2009, 03:26 PM
I don'[t know if anyone else posted this or not, if someone else did I apologize for reposting it.
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news/041009haleigh_missing_two_months
lorettalockhorn
04-20-2009, 03:28 PM
Haleigh Cummings Case Party Girls Busted! Ronald Cummings, BOLO??
In a dramatic new twist in the case of missing Haleigh Cummings, two young women with close ties to the father of the missing five year old, Ronald, and his new bride, Misty Cummings, were arrested and booked Monday morning into the Putnam County Jail on charges of cocaine possession.
Amber Nicole Brooks, 20, of Palatka, Florida, the mother of Cummings’ 20-month old son, Jordan, was arrested by Putnam County sheriffs deputies, booked into jail at 8:04 a.m. and charged with cocaine possession, smuggling “contraband” into a detention facility and failing to appear for another outstanding warrant.
Bond was set at $2,512.00 for the three felony charges, according to the Putnam County Jail log.
Also arrested and booked (at 8:39 a.m.): Kristina Renee Prevatt, 18, aka “Nay Nay,” the party pal of Misty Cummings who in an exclusive upcoming interview at artharris.com describes a wild, three day party of sex, drugs and drinking with Misty the weekend before the 17 year old babysitter reported Haleigh missing on Feb. 10. Misty, who has since married Ronald, is said to be the last person who saw Haleigh.
On Monday, Prevatt was charged with possession of cocaine and trying to smuggle contraband into a detention facility, records show. Her bond was set at $2008.00.
In our interview, she tells me she introduced Misty and Greg Page, aka White Boy Greg, and drove them around for two days. She also says Misty claimed Ronald had physically abused her when she told him she was pregnant, and that lead to her party girl revenge. Nay Nay says she doubts Misty was telling the truth.
She also says Amber Brooks borrowed her car recently, and got it stuck in the mud, reportedly running from a man with a machete. She says Misty still had clothes in her trunk from that lost weekend, but they have since been removed.
Prevatt describes this and more in our exclusive television interview between her and pro bono private investigator and bounty hunter William Staubs, aka “Cobra,” who is expected back in Satsuma late Monday.
As for Amber Brooks, in a recent exclusive interview with The Bald Truth, she tells me she once lived with Ronald and took care of Haleigh and her little brother, Junior, before their son, Jordan, was born, then split with Cummings who she said has paid no child support, and raised their son as a single mother.
With a previous drug arrest on the books, Brooks has been struggling to raise their son, who has been quietly cared for by her grandmother in Palatka, but Jordan’s future may be up in the air after a surprise visit by Ronald Cummings Sunday.
Indeed, just before 10 p.m. Sunday night, April 19, according to a 911 call my source heard on a police scanner, Brooks’ grandmother called the Putnam County Sheriff’s dispatcher to report Cummings had pulled up outside her house in his purple Nissan Ultima and sent Haleigh’s little brother, Junior, to her door to ask for his little brother, Jordan.
When the grandmother refused, she told police, a black man who was apparently with Cummings appeared and asked for the child. That’s when my source says he heard the grandmother tell 911 she locked the door and called police, who confirmed the incident, including a BOLO (be on the lookout) for Cummings and a police cruiser that was dispatched.
“That’s how I understand it went down,” said PCSD Captain Dick Schauland in a phone interview with The Bald Truth.
Lt. Johnny Greenwood, also a PCSD spokesman, confirmed the arrests of Prevatt and Brooks. He said both had been cooperative in previous interviews with task force detectives when questioned about Haleigh’s kidnapping, but saw no connection with that case and the arrests.
“I don’t know how investigators may want to talk to them. I know they’ve talked to them already…and they’ve been cooperative the whole time,” Lt. Greenwood tells me. “Usually, charges like that might be used as leverage, but in this case they’ve already been cooperative.”
Cooperative or not, one investigator on the case told me Monday the task force would explore whether the cocaine arrests might be still be used to “squeeze” the women for any undisclosed information that might help move the stalled case forward.
“We’re waiting on that one tip to come in. Somebody knows something,” Lt. Greenwood tells me. “Somebody out there knows what happened. It’s just gonna take them slipping up and telling somebody, or somebody hears something. That’s all it’s going to take, one tip.”
In our exclusive interview with Prevatt, Nay Nay, as everyone calls her, says she picked Misty up after a fight with Ronald mid-week before Haleigh vanished, drove her to meet Page, and off they went on their party girl weekend—and had a surprise encounter with Brooks. Her account dovetails with what Page, or “White Boy Greg” as he’s called on the street, told us in his exclusive sit down.
Both describe Page’s brief romantic hook up with Misty, and her physical altercation with Amber Brooks at a party where witnesses tell me the cat-fighting women had to be physically pulled apart.
While Amber tells me Ronald Cummings rarely saw their son, friends say Brooks remains bitter that Misty moved in with her ex, and may have been angling to take away her son. Investigators theorize a number of dynamics at play, including a Misty who may have been jealous of the women who had previously had children by her main man.
Kim Picazio, lawyer for Crystal Sheffield, tells me Brooks described to her how Cummings would “smack” his son, Junior, causing nose bleeds —a similar account Brooks told me as well — but a police source says Amber also praised Ronald as a fine father who did not abuse the kids in a recent interview with the task force.
“She tells people what she thinks they want to hear,” said a lead investigator in the stalled missing child case.
In an exclusive interview, the task force official who asked that his name not be used, tells me investigators on the Haleigh case would be exploring any conflicts between the bit players in this twisted epic of Jerry Springer proporations, in an attempt to learn more from the two women about Haleigh’s disappearance than previously shared under police questioning.
Sources tell me sheriff’s investigators interviewed Brooks last week after she also met with investigators for Putnam County Department of Family Services who questioned her about Ronald Cummings alleged abuse–charges leveled by Haleigh’s mother, Crystal Sheffield, who is trying to regain custody of their son, Junior.
Through his attorneys, Ronald Cummings has denied any physical abuse towards the children, and maintains he’s the better parent by a longshot.
DFS has previously investigated Cummings and reportedly found his use of physical punishment within the acceptable bounds of parental discipline.
http://www.artharris.com/2009/04/20/haleigh-cummings-case-party-girls-busted-ronald-cummings-bolo/
lorettalockhorn
04-20-2009, 03:33 PM
I don'[t know if anyone else posted this or not, if someone else did I apologize for reposting it.
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news/041009haleigh_missing_two_months
Thanks NA! Kinda odd that Crystal assumes that Haleigh won't be present for Chloe's BDay five days in the future.
From thesky.com article:
>>I could tell she felt optimistic about the thought her child is still alive, but also cautious since so many sighting have turned out to be false.
Does anyone remember "so many sightings"?
lorettalockhorn
04-20-2009, 03:39 PM
So in twenty some odd hours Cummings hasn't been found? Did he leave the area with Junior, driving like a lunatic (that is rumored to be his habit)?
PCSO may possibly use the arrest of Amber and Nay Nay to squeeze them? Well, hell. How'zabout they arrest Misty and put the squeeze on her, since she's the last one to see Haleigh? Or is Amber or Nay Nay the black man in black with squeaky shoes making the couch bounce?
deacon
04-20-2009, 04:53 PM
So in twenty some odd hours Cummings hasn't been found? Did he leave the area with Junior, driving like a lunatic (that is rumored to be his habit)?
PCSO may possibly use the arrest of Amber and Nay Nay to squeeze them? Well, hell. How'zabout they arrest Misty and put the squeeze on her, since she's the last one to see Haleigh? Or is Amber or Nay Nay the black man in black with squeaky shoes making the couch bounce?
Ponderous man, ponderous. I thought the anthonys were messed up. They are normal compared to this group.:cuss:
Haven't found the interview with Nay Nay at Art Harris/The Bald Truth.
Am wondering how a four year old lures a one year old+ disabled child out of a home. :confused::shrug::eek:
That's what I wonder. There are few (to no) 1 y/o's going to answer the door, let alone go outside w/his brother. Since I have CRS, exactly what is the nature of the 1 y/o's disability?
I had a little trouble following the article. So, Amber and nay-nay were arrested early that same day that Ron Cummings Jr tried to get his baby brother to come out of the house during the evening? And Amber was home in time to be the one to answer the door? (I am assuming she is the one who answered the door. And that she was able to either post bond or pay the fine.)
What's the matter? Why doesn't Ronald Cummings Sr go thru the courts to get legal custody of his second son--after all, isn't that how he got custody of Haleigh and Jr? Is he afraid circumstances have changed enough that he wouldn't get custody of this one? Good move, to take a baby from his mom so a 17 y/o can be in charge of him. Perhaps let the 17 y/o grow up a bit (okay, a LOT) before entrusting her with another of his children. If he did do this, I would be sure any judge in a custody hearing relating to JR--well, to ANY of his children--would be advised of the wise decisions Ron Sr made about trying to gain (illegal) custody of the youngest.
I guess if I had read a few more posts, I would have had the answers about the incident with Jr. But, still, it is soooo stupid to have a 4 y/o go to the door and ask for the 1 y/o. What did Ron think Grandma was going to do? Just hand the little one over to the little one to walk away from the house? GEEESHH. He's fried a few more brain cells than I figured.
Especially if they have still not "found" Ron Sr--and Ron Jr, it does not bode well @ all for any kind of custody hearing to be in favor of Ron, IMO. Of course, who knows what any judge will determine. Yep, trying to abduct a child is going to look real good for Ron. Matters not that he is the father--he does NOT have legal custody. Can you imagine the carp that would hit the fan if Crystal tried to, on her own, take Jr?
Gee, wonder where Misti is whilst her "main man" and his little boy are somewhere not being found by LE?
lorettalockhorn
04-20-2009, 05:33 PM
HAHAHA That Main man thing just slayed me! Ron must be sooooooo proud to be his missuz's Numero Uno.
I have no idea what Jordon's disability is, I read on one of the boards that he was born with a soft spot on his head. :rolleyes: (Reminded me of that great line in Raising Arizona: "Now mind his little fontanelle!")
Isn't it also interesting that Cummings' attorneys came out with both barrels about Crystal being in arrears with child support (NOT that there's any excuse for that), but Ron also owes support?
ETA: Maybe it's a special crime (or there's a special place in hell) to use a four year old in the commission of a crime.
ErrinSpelling
04-20-2009, 05:50 PM
Thanks NA! Kinda odd that Crystal assumes that Haleigh won't be present for Chloe's BDay five days in the future.
From thesky.com article:
>>I could tell she felt optimistic about the thought her child is still alive, but also cautious since so many sighting have turned out to be false.
Does anyone remember "so many sightings"?
i only remember of 2..one where a little girl & her father were walking to school way far away,by a rr track...police found them & it wasn't her,obviously.
ErrinSpelling
04-20-2009, 05:58 PM
So in twenty some odd hours Cummings hasn't been found? Did he leave the area with Junior, driving like a lunatic (that is rumored to be his habit)?
PCSO may possibly use the arrest of Amber and Nay Nay to squeeze them? Well, hell. How'zabout they arrest Misty and put the squeeze on her, since she's the last one to see Haleigh? Or is Amber or Nay Nay the black man in black with squeaky shoes making the couch bounce?
he was in a purple car.i know people wrote he might have a purple car, he drives sometimes, but i'm thinking it was the tall thin black man's car, who went to gma amber's house with ron & jr...
also, there was a criminal caught today ,in a car , near a school & LE got him, before he ran into woods...could it be ron, b/c they wouldn't give his name?it was a legitimate news site, but i forgot which one.
jr should be taken away by his driving alone.he already left the scene of 2 accidents..i can't remember if it was nov & dec of 05, but i wonder if ron saw a wreck & left or if he hit something or someone, left , b/c he had drugs,or was on drugs????then that rumor about driving to the bus stop, like a maniac,the day haleigh disappeared?
lorettalockhorn
04-20-2009, 06:25 PM
he was in a purple car.i know people wrote he might have a purple car, he drives sometimes, but i'm thinking it was the tall thin black man's car, who went to gma amber's house with ron & jr...
also, there was a criminal caught today ,in a car , near a school & LE got him, before he ran into woods...could it be ron, b/c they wouldn't give his name?it was a legitimate news site, but i forgot which one.
jr should be taken away by his driving alone.he already left the scene of 2 accidents..i can't remember if it was nov & dec of 05, but i wonder if ron saw a wreck & left or if he hit something or someone, left , b/c he had drugs,or was on drugs????then that rumor about driving to the bus stop, like a maniac,the day haleigh disappeared?
If you look at the PCSO population/roster, you can see that there is a gap between prisoners Rourke and Amber Brooks, which would have been booking #09-1567. That's the only thing I see missing on the site (that I can tell). Suppose that could be Cummings? :shrug:
http://public.pcso.us/jail/inmates.aspx
ErrinSpelling
04-20-2009, 06:44 PM
If you look at the PCSO population/roster, you can see that there is a gap between prisoners Rourke and Amber Brooks, which would have been booking #09-1567. That's the only thing I see missing on the site (that I can tell). Suppose that could be Cummings? :shrug:
http://public.pcso.us/jail/inmates.aspx
well i never thought of that.they were booked early this morning & i'm not sure when that suspect was caught..will go see if i can find it.
ErrinSpelling
04-20-2009, 06:54 PM
If you look at the PCSO population/roster, you can see that there is a gap between prisoners Rourke and Amber Brooks, which would have been booking #09-1567. That's the only thing I see missing on the site (that I can tell). Suppose that could be Cummings? :shrug:
http://public.pcso.us/jail/inmates.aspx
i'm so dumb.the article is about a shooting suspect not a send your baby to the door to kidnap your other baby suspect.
now why would he do this..was he going to kill the baby, take him for a dna test, kidnap him to get child support, take him to a steak house................................???
lorettalockhorn
04-20-2009, 07:30 PM
i'm so dumb.the article is about a shooting suspect not a send your baby to the door to kidnap your other baby suspect.
now why would he do this..was he going to kill the baby, take him for a dna test, kidnap him to get child support, take him to a steak house................................???
Who in the world knows what was going on in Cummings' mind or if the story has become convoluted. Guess we'll have to wait for JVM and NG to catch up on the news (how long will that take?) before we'll see a police report or hear the 911 call.
i'm so dumb.the article is about a shooting suspect not a send your baby to the door to kidnap your other baby suspect.
now why would he do this..was he going to kill the baby, take him for a dna test, kidnap him to get child support, take him to a steak house................................???
Not dumb at all considering we don't know many details. No telling what Ron might do if he's willing to use Junior to spirit away a baby. The missing prisoner in the skip in booking numbers would have been taken in between 7:46 and 8:04am.
The story you mentioned:
http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/mostpopular/news-article.aspx?storyid=136234&provider=top
lorettalockhorn
04-20-2009, 08:00 PM
...Allen Deion McDonald, 22, of Jacksonville was charged with home-invasion robbery, grand theft, possession of cocaine, fleeing and attempting to elude, felony driving while license suspended, petty theft and possession of a firearm by a convicted felon. Deputies found a 9mm handgun and a small amount of what appeared to be cocaine in the Sentra that turned out to be stolen...
http://jacksonville.com/news/metro/crime/2009-04-20/story/3_putnam_schools_briefly_locked_down_during_police _chase
DrewBerry
04-20-2009, 09:27 PM
So in twenty some odd hours Cummings hasn't been found? Did he leave the area with Junior, driving like a lunatic (that is rumored to be his habit)?
PCSO may possibly use the arrest of Amber and Nay Nay to squeeze them? Well, hell. How'zabout they arrest Misty and put the squeeze on her, since she's the last one to see Haleigh? Or is Amber or Nay Nay the black man in black with squeaky shoes making the couch bounce?
Yeah, WTF? Arrest the whole bunch of 'em as far as I'm concerned. Mrs. Ronnie is key to finding Haleigh and LE, IMO, have not squeezed her enough, Loretta. Where is that couch-bouncer anyway?! And Rageaholic Ron taking Jr. and driving recklessly should be CPS call. This bunch of losers are no different than the ANTS; just different education, socio-economic status. They're all a bunch of liars!
DrewB
lorettalockhorn
04-20-2009, 09:31 PM
Yeah, WTF? Arrest the whole bunch of 'em as far as I'm concerned. Mrs. Ronnie is key to finding Haleigh and LE, IMO, have not squeezed her enough, Loretta. Where is that couch-bouncer anyway?! And Rageaholic Ron taking Jr. and driving recklessly should be CPS call. This bunch of losers are no different than the ANTS; just different education, socio-economic status. They're all a bunch of liars!
DrewB
I'm thinking these days that they are of the same socio-economic status as the Ants (or the other way around). :hat: The Ants just live higher on the hog. On someone else's dime. They are probably Ron's inspiration.
lorettalockhorn
04-20-2009, 09:32 PM
EXCLUSIVE! Misty Cummings Pal Nay Nay Talks!
In an exclusive interview with The Bald Truth, we watch a party pal of Misty Cummings, Kristina Prevatt, aka Nay Nay, describe Misty’s spree of drugs, sex and rock and roll with “White Boy Greg” Page, after running from what she says Misty described as abuse by Ronald Cummings, and her duties babysitting his children, Haleigh and Junior...
http://www.artharris.com/2009/04/20/exclusive-misty-cummings-pal-nay-nay-talks/#more-1668
Video at link.
ErrinSpelling
04-20-2009, 09:52 PM
Who in the world knows what was going on in Cummings' mind or if the story has become convoluted. Guess we'll have to wait for JVM and NG to catch up on the news (how long will that take?) before we'll see a police report or hear the 911 call.
Not dumb at all considering we don't know many details. No telling what Ron might do if he's willing to use Junior to spirit away a baby. The missing prisoner in the skip in booking numbers would have been taken in between 7:46 and 8:04am.
The story you mentioned:
http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/mostpopular/news-article.aspx?storyid=136234&provider=top
hey thank-you for the link & links!there IS no telling what ron will do.i was shocked the narcissist, who does whatever he wants, whenever he wants even tried this at all, whatever ths was.
the whole world watching & he gets even more brazen...i would not want to know what he does ,behind closed doors.
so there is a prisoner in that 15 minutes....omgoodness what the devil is going on in this small town...2 people we know were arrested TODAY, then the shooting , burglar, driving w/o , fleeing police ,guy, then all those people in your article the other day...they need to build a prison for half this town...now i see why all these characters, with arrest records we have seen , for months aren't in jail...& i believe 1 of LE 's reasons for not searching , b/c of all the drug people was definitely true.
ErrinSpelling
04-20-2009, 09:58 PM
...Allen Deion McDonald, 22, of Jacksonville was charged with home-invasion robbery, grand theft, possession of cocaine, fleeing and attempting to elude, felony driving while license suspended, petty theft and possession of a firearm by a convicted felon. Deputies found a 9mm handgun and a small amount of what appeared to be cocaine in the Sentra that turned out to be stolen...
http://jacksonville.com/news/metro/crime/2009-04-20/story/3_putnam_schools_briefly_locked_down_during_police _chase
oh wonderful, now at least 3 people in this town are driving w/o a license, which is unimaginable to me...no insurance, take drugs, lie...there must be some kind of sociopath recipe in the water.:mad:
DrewBerry
04-20-2009, 10:01 PM
hey thank-you for the link & links!there IS no telling what ron will do.i was shocked the narcissist, who does whatever he wants, whenever he wants even tried this at all, whatever ths was.
the whole world watching & he gets even more brazen...i would not want to know what he does ,behind closed doors.
so there is a prisoner in that 15 minutes....omgoodness what the devil is going on in this small town...2 people we know were arrested TODAY, then the shooting , burglar, driving w/o , fleeing police ,guy, then all those people in your article the other day...they need to build a prison for half this town...now i see why all these characters, with arrest records we have seen , for months aren't in jail...& i believe 1 of LE 's reasons for not searching , b/c of all the drug people was definitely true.
Excellent points, Errin! What the hell is up with this town?
ErrinSpelling
04-20-2009, 10:02 PM
Yeah, WTF? Arrest the whole bunch of 'em as far as I'm concerned. Mrs. Ronnie is key to finding Haleigh and LE, IMO, have not squeezed her enough, Loretta. Where is that couch-bouncer anyway?! And Rageaholic Ron taking Jr. and driving recklessly should be CPS call. This bunch of losers are no different than the ANTS; just different education, socio-economic status. They're all a bunch of liars!
DrewB
:beer: smebody needs to investigate cps,too.they may need to be locked up too...i have not read anything good about them ...all the things ron does in their newspaper all the time & they have done nothing...i feel sorry for the other poor children there.
ErrinSpelling
04-20-2009, 10:07 PM
Excellent points, Errin! What the hell is up with this town?
i don't mean to be so rude to an entire town, drew,so i said half, but seriously is ny this bad?...i know there are many nice people there who really seemed to care about haleigh.we read about them. they donated money for her.they care more than ron & misty, but they should lock up their criminals.
ErrinSpelling
04-20-2009, 10:25 PM
EXCLUSIVE! Misty Cummings Pal Nay Nay Talks!
In an exclusive interview with The Bald Truth, we watch a party pal of Misty Cummings, Kristina Prevatt, aka Nay Nay, describe Misty’s spree of drugs, sex and rock and roll with “White Boy Greg” Page, after running from what she says Misty described as abuse by Ronald Cummings, and her duties babysitting his children, Haleigh and Junior...
http://www.artharris.com/2009/04/20/exclusive-misty-cummings-pal-nay-nay-talks/#more-1668
Video at link. i'm only through the 1st few paragraphs, but before i forget, maybe this prostitute lindsay they gave a ride to was the other person booked....i don't know this is too criminally complicated for my brain...cobra bailed amber & nay nay out, but there are quotes in here, from amber i remember reading weeks ago....why does it take so long, for news to come out..then mark my words it will be 4 more days, before it;s on NG or JVM.
ErrinSpelling
04-21-2009, 12:26 AM
i'm only through the 1st few paragraphs, but before i forget, maybe this prostitute lindsay they gave a ride to was the other person booked....i don't know this is too criminally complicated for my brain...cobra bailed amber & nay nay out, but there are quotes in here, from amber i remember reading weeks ago....why does it take so long, for news to come out..then mark my words it will be 4 more days, before it;s on NG or JVM.
after i said it takes news too long,i listened again to cobra's radio interview with tj hart from this morning & cobra says that they (he & art harris) were holding it back on purpose, until something like this happened & to work the rest of their leads................................
a pastor brought cobra to satsuma, for 2 days & he stayed 26 & he is working pro bono...then he leaves to work, catches bad guys, funds himself & comes back.
Native Alien
04-21-2009, 04:17 AM
i don't mean to be so rude to an entire town, drew,so i said half, but seriously is ny this bad?...i know there are many nice people there who really seemed to care about haleigh.we read about them. they donated money for her.they care more than ron & misty, but they should lock up their criminals.
Here's the problem with them locking up their criminals Errin. First of all, most likely nearly a third of the town is criminal informants. So they can't lock them up or they wouldn't be able to make those big drug busts. Secondly, probably a good one half of the town or better are criminals. So they just keep doing deals with them to keep them out of jail. Now they have more informants. So now you have a large part of a small community that is either informants or criminal informants in a very poor community that can't handle the problems of what they would do with all those children if they locked away all the criminals.
Not to mention that they normally can't catch the criminals being criminals because everyone knows everyone else and an outsider sticks out like a sore thumb. Including the undercover guys. I was totally amazed at that drug bust they just did and want to know more about as soon as the press releases are done on it.
RaVeN71806
04-21-2009, 09:41 AM
wow this whole page just made my head spin lol....so dumbass tried to take his youngest son but did not succeed so now is on the run with jr ? and now the dipsy doodle girls who have been arrested are working with LE? did I get that correct? ..
Haleigh Cummings Case Party Girls Busted! Ronald Cummings, BOLO??
In a dramatic new twist in the case of missing Haleigh Cummings, two young women with close ties to the father of the missing five year old, Ronald, and his new bride, Misty Cummings, were arrested and booked Monday morning into the Putnam County Jail on charges of cocaine possession.
Amber Nicole Brooks, 20, of Palatka, Florida, the mother of Cummings’ 20-month old son, Jordan, was arrested by Putnam County sheriffs deputies, booked into jail at 8:04 a.m. and charged with cocaine possession, smuggling “contraband” into a detention facility and failing to appear for another outstanding warrant.
Bond was set at $2,512.00 for the three felony charges, according to the Putnam County Jail log.
Also arrested and booked (at 8:39 a.m.): Kristina Renee Prevatt, 18, aka “Nay Nay,” the party pal of Misty Cummings who in an exclusive upcoming interview at artharris.com describes a wild, three day party of sex, drugs and drinking with Misty the weekend before the 17 year old babysitter reported Haleigh missing on Feb. 10. Misty, who has since married Ronald, is said to be the last person who saw Haleigh.
On Monday, Prevatt was charged with possession of cocaine and trying to smuggle contraband into a detention facility, records show. Her bond was set at $2008.00.
In our interview, she tells me she introduced Misty and Greg Page, aka White Boy Greg, and drove them around for two days. She also says Misty claimed Ronald had physically abused her when she told him she was pregnant, and that lead to her party girl revenge. Nay Nay says she doubts Misty was telling the truth.
She also says Amber Brooks borrowed her car recently, and got it stuck in the mud, reportedly running from a man with a machete. She says Misty still had clothes in her trunk from that lost weekend, but they have since been removed.
Prevatt describes this and more in our exclusive television interview between her and pro bono private investigator and bounty hunter William Staubs, aka “Cobra,” who is expected back in Satsuma late Monday.
As for Amber Brooks, in a recent exclusive interview with The Bald Truth, she tells me she once lived with Ronald and took care of Haleigh and her little brother, Junior, before their son, Jordan, was born, then split with Cummings who she said has paid no child support, and raised their son as a single mother.
With a previous drug arrest on the books, Brooks has been struggling to raise their son, who has been quietly cared for by her grandmother in Palatka, but Jordan’s future may be up in the air after a surprise visit by Ronald Cummings Sunday.
Indeed, just before 10 p.m. Sunday night, April 19, according to a 911 call my source heard on a police scanner, Brooks’ grandmother called the Putnam County Sheriff’s dispatcher to report Cummings had pulled up outside her house in his purple Nissan Ultima and sent Haleigh’s little brother, Junior, to her door to ask for his little brother, Jordan.
When the grandmother refused, she told police, a black man who was apparently with Cummings appeared and asked for the child. That’s when my source says he heard the grandmother tell 911 she locked the door and called police, who confirmed the incident, including a BOLO (be on the lookout) for Cummings and a police cruiser that was dispatched.
“That’s how I understand it went down,” said PCSD Captain Dick Schauland in a phone interview with The Bald Truth.
Lt. Johnny Greenwood, also a PCSD spokesman, confirmed the arrests of Prevatt and Brooks. He said both had been cooperative in previous interviews with task force detectives when questioned about Haleigh’s kidnapping, but saw no connection with that case and the arrests.
“I don’t know how investigators may want to talk to them. I know they’ve talked to them already…and they’ve been cooperative the whole time,” Lt. Greenwood tells me. “Usually, charges like that might be used as leverage, but in this case they’ve already been cooperative.”
Cooperative or not, one investigator on the case told me Monday the task force would explore whether the cocaine arrests might be still be used to “squeeze” the women for any undisclosed information that might help move the stalled case forward.
“We’re waiting on that one tip to come in. Somebody knows something,” Lt. Greenwood tells me. “Somebody out there knows what happened. It’s just gonna take them slipping up and telling somebody, or somebody hears something. That’s all it’s going to take, one tip.”
In our exclusive interview with Prevatt, Nay Nay, as everyone calls her, says she picked Misty up after a fight with Ronald mid-week before Haleigh vanished, drove her to meet Page, and off they went on their party girl weekend—and had a surprise encounter with Brooks. Her account dovetails with what Page, or “White Boy Greg” as he’s called on the street, told us in his exclusive sit down.
Both describe Page’s brief romantic hook up with Misty, and her physical altercation with Amber Brooks at a party where witnesses tell me the cat-fighting women had to be physically pulled apart.
While Amber tells me Ronald Cummings rarely saw their son, friends say Brooks remains bitter that Misty moved in with her ex, and may have been angling to take away her son. Investigators theorize a number of dynamics at play, including a Misty who may have been jealous of the women who had previously had children by her main man.
Kim Picazio, lawyer for Crystal Sheffield, tells me Brooks described to her how Cummings would “smack” his son, Junior, causing nose bleeds —a similar account Brooks told me as well — but a police source says Amber also praised Ronald as a fine father who did not abuse the kids in a recent interview with the task force.
“She tells people what she thinks they want to hear,” said a lead investigator in the stalled missing child case.
In an exclusive interview, the task force official who asked that his name not be used, tells me investigators on the Haleigh case would be exploring any conflicts between the bit players in this twisted epic of Jerry Springer proporations, in an attempt to learn more from the two women about Haleigh’s disappearance than previously shared under police questioning.
Sources tell me sheriff’s investigators interviewed Brooks last week after she also met with investigators for Putnam County Department of Family Services who questioned her about Ronald Cummings alleged abuse–charges leveled by Haleigh’s mother, Crystal Sheffield, who is trying to regain custody of their son, Junior.
Through his attorneys, Ronald Cummings has denied any physical abuse towards the children, and maintains he’s the better parent by a longshot.
DFS has previously investigated Cummings and reportedly found his use of physical punishment within the acceptable bounds of parental discipline.
http://www.artharris.com/2009/04/20/haleigh-cummings-case-party-girls-busted-ronald-cummings-bolo/
So, wonder if Misti IS pregnant? Or if Misti WAS pregnant? Or if Misti tho't telling Ron she was pregnant would get him to declare his undying love for her and marry her? Or, is it like Nay-Nay says, and Misti was lying--about the pregnancy or the abuse or both.
RaVeN71806
04-21-2009, 09:55 AM
So, wonder if Misti IS pregnant? Or if Misti WAS pregnant? Or if Misti tho't telling Ron she was pregnant would get him to declare his undying love for her and marry her? Or, is it like Nay-Nay says, and Misti was lying--about the pregnancy or the abuse or both.
to me it sounds like Misti is a great bull****ter..
lorettalockhorn
04-21-2009, 11:29 AM
wow this whole page just made my head spin lol....so dumbass tried to take his youngest son but did not succeed so now is on the run with jr ? and now the dipsy doodle girls who have been arrested are working with LE? did I get that correct? ..
Don't see him on the PCSO jail roster, so I guess he's still at large. He's teflon.
lorettalockhorn
04-21-2009, 11:30 AM
So, wonder if Misti IS pregnant? Or if Misti WAS pregnant? Or if Misti tho't telling Ron she was pregnant would get him to declare his undying love for her and marry her? Or, is it like Nay-Nay says, and Misti was lying--about the pregnancy or the abuse or both.
Can't you just imagine how this garbage is going to play when/if Junior's custody hearing takes place?!
DrewBerry
04-21-2009, 12:02 PM
Can't you just imagine how this garbage is going to play when/if Junior's custody hearing takes place?!
Garbage from trash, Loretta. I hate to be so cold-hearted but I am disgusted with people who don't protect and love their children. I make no excuses for my disdain for this group of losers. Also, I bet the little bride is prego or will be soon. What crap!:flamemad:
DrewB
Woostock
04-21-2009, 12:32 PM
Drew
I second your words.Could not have said it better....the poor kids born to these losers. Some kids make it spite of their so called parents; let's hope some of these do.
ErrinSpelling
04-21-2009, 01:11 PM
Here's the problem with them locking up their criminals Errin. First of all, most likely nearly a third of the town is criminal informants. So they can't lock them up or they wouldn't be able to make those big drug busts. Secondly, probably a good one half of the town or better are criminals. So they just keep doing deals with them to keep them out of jail. Now they have more informants. So now you have a large part of a small community that is either informants or criminal informants in a very poor community that can't handle the problems of what they would do with all those children if they locked away all the criminals.
Not to mention that they normally can't catch the criminals being criminals because everyone knows everyone else and an outsider sticks out like a sore thumb. Including the undercover guys. I was totally amazed at that drug bust they just did and want to know more about as soon as the press releases are done on it.
:eek::eek::eek::
my head is spinning...well they need to get the children away from these people & let me just make up %'s ,like NG does & did last night, to make a point
or 99% of these children will grow up to be sociopaths & criminals just like the parents, or they will be ill & disabled from all the drug addict parents....then someday the entire town could be criminals... ron has 3 children, who are all ill ...
ErrinSpelling
04-21-2009, 01:22 PM
Don't see him on the PCSO jail roster, so I guess he's still at large. He's teflon.
rumor teflon's BOLO was lifted yesterday,if that's the word.like raven my head is spinning, with this foolishness protecting the rights of criminals...art harris seems to think the police would have done nothing, if he had taken his son...
where has there been a peternity test,i say. i thought grandma had custody.
parents can kidnap children....there are arrests all the time,of parents taking children...if he killed the baby ,i guess that would be alright too & not a crime.:confused:
i guarantee you if i broke the law, say i went to satsuma & took water from the horse trough (sp) i would be arrested, for breaking the law, but not teflon.:confused:
i say rumor, b/c i just see people stating it as fact....when he went home, they knew where he was, so it was lifted...in some opinions
lorettalockhorn
04-21-2009, 02:52 PM
Garbage from trash, Loretta. I hate to be so cold-hearted but I am disgusted with people who don't protect and love their children. I make no excuses for my disdain for this group of losers. Also, I bet the little bride is prego or will be soon. What crap!:flamemad:
DrewB
Well, IF Misty was knocked up before her lost weekend (considering there's any indication that it happened), I'd like to see charges of endangerment brought against her along with random drug tests.
lorettalockhorn
04-21-2009, 02:56 PM
rumor teflon's BOLO was lifted yesterday,if that's the word.like raven my head is spinning, with this foolishness protecting the rights of criminals...art harris seems to think the police would have done nothing, if he had taken his son...
where has there been a peternity test,i say. i thought grandma had custody.
parents can kidnap children....there are arrests all the time,of parents taking children...if he killed the baby ,i guess that would be alright too & not a crime.:confused:
i guarantee you if i broke the law, say i went to satsuma & took water from the horse trough (sp) i would be arrested, for breaking the law, but not teflon.:confused:
i say rumor, b/c i just see people stating it as fact....when he went home, they knew where he was, so it was lifted...in some opinions
I am begging you in the name of all that is good and holy, do not, I repeat, DO NOT drink the water in Satsuma or anywhere in Putnam County, Florida!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :eek: Not even a horse trough!
Okay, so the BOLO was cancelled. That doesn't mean that the episode did not occur; it was verified by the PCSO. I've checked the records and haven't found Amber on any of the civil dockets re: paternity or child support. But that doesn't mean that it's not there and I just didn't find it.
ErrinSpelling
04-21-2009, 03:00 PM
I am begging you in the name of all that is good and holy, do not, I repeat, DO NOT drink the water in Satsuma or anywhere in Putnam County, Florida!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :eek: Not even a horse trough!
Okay, so the BOLO was cancelled. That doesn't mean that the episode did not occur; it was verified by the PCSO. I've checked the records and haven't found Amber on any of the civil dockets re: paternity or child support. But that doesn't mean that it's not there and I just didn't find it.
:D LOL
oh no it doesn't mean the episode didn't occur...it did...
deacon
04-21-2009, 03:05 PM
Well, IF Misty was knocked up before her lost weekend (considering there's any indication that it happened), I'd like to see charges of endangerment brought against her along with random drug tests.
While I totally agree with you, that will never happen. So many mothers have exposed their unborn children to drugs it isn't funny and nothing is done even when it can be proved beyond any doubt.:mad:
lorettalockhorn
04-21-2009, 04:05 PM
While I totally agree with you, that will never happen. So many mothers have exposed their unborn children to drugs it isn't funny and nothing is done even when it can be proved beyond any doubt.:mad:
Never say never! I think a few states have already enacted laws that make it illegal to ingest illegal drugs during pregnancy, and since charges for endangerment can be brought for giving birth to addicted babies, legislatures might as well take the next obvious step. The premise depends to a degree on whether or not a particular state considers a fetus a living being.
deacon
04-21-2009, 04:15 PM
Never say never! I think a few states have already enacted laws that make it illegal to ingest illegal drugs during pregnancy, and since charges for endangerment can be brought for giving birth to addicted babies, legislatures might as well take the next obvious step. The premise depends to a degree on whether or not a particular state considers a fetus a living being.
We had one here where the baby died shortly after birth. The girl was brought up on charges and they threw the case out even though the drs. said it was the direct result of the mother's drug abuse.
I'll believe it when I see it.:patriot:
lorettalockhorn
04-21-2009, 04:23 PM
We had one here where the baby died shortly after birth. The girl was brought up on charges and they threw the case out even though the drs. said it was the direct result of the mother's drug abuse.
I'll believe it when I see it.:patriot:
Who is "they"? Prosecutor? The judge? I think S. Carolina, MO and Iowa(?) have laws on the books and there could be others. TX either outlawed fetal rights or overturned a law or some such. Sounds like a fine topic for 3am research.
JLette
04-21-2009, 05:12 PM
We had one here where the baby died shortly after birth. The girl was brought up on charges and they threw the case out even though the drs. said it was the direct result of the mother's drug abuse.
I'll believe it when I see it.:patriot:
i believe here that if the mother shows signs of being an abuser before the baby is born then they automatically will drug test that infant immediately after birth and if it tests positive for ANY illegal substance then i am pretty sure they take the child right there at the hospital and call CPS.
i believe here that if the mother shows signs of being an abuser before the baby is born then they automatically will drug test that infant immediately after birth and if it tests positive for ANY illegal substance then i am pretty sure they take the child right there at the hospital and call CPS.
We test babies of known or suspected drug users (such as, CPS is already involved w/the family and has reason to believe there was drug use.) Most of the babies go home w/their mommas, tho. But, they have CPS on their tails. I should say, except for some of the babies in NBICU who are around for a week or so, I have no idea whether or not the babies being tested showed positive results, and for what. Those that are regular stay (24-48 hrs) go home w/moms because it takes some time for the results to return to the dr.
JLette
04-21-2009, 06:06 PM
We test babies of known or suspected drug users (such as, CPS is already involved w/the family and has reason to believe there was drug use.) Most of the babies go home w/their mommas, tho. But, they have CPS on their tails. I should say, except for some of the babies in NBICU who are around for a week or so, I have no idea whether or not the babies being tested showed positive results, and for what. Those that are regular stay (24-48 hrs) go home w/moms because it takes some time for the results to return to the dr.
we have especially bad trouble with crystal meth here where i live, and the signs are pretty....well....obvious. my own older sister is a meth head and my mother took her child when he was only 2 because she was constantly abandoning him for weeks and even months at a time to go in search for drugs. the hospitals here didn't start testing for it automatically at birth until about 5 or 6 years ago, my nephew will be 8 in july and knowing my sister as i do and seeing her throughout her pregnancy im sure he tested positive for crystal meth at birth and he has all the classic signs of a drug addicted baby, but nothing was done at the time to prevent her from taking him home. i am pretty sure now its different (hopefully)
ErrinSpelling
04-21-2009, 06:50 PM
I am begging you in the name of all that is good and holy, do not, I repeat, DO NOT drink the water in Satsuma or anywhere in Putnam County, Florida!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :eek: Not even a horse trough!
Okay, so the BOLO was cancelled. That doesn't mean that the episode did not occur; it was verified by the PCSO. I've checked the records and haven't found Amber on any of the civil dockets re: paternity or child support. But that doesn't mean that it's not there and I just didn't find it.
still laughing at the water....
also verified junior went to the door, by a source of art harris, a preacher with his ear glued to a police scanner... (post 141 by AH on party girls busted)
ErrinSpelling
04-21-2009, 06:53 PM
we have especially bad trouble with crystal meth here where i live, and the signs are pretty....well....obvious. my own older sister is a meth head and my mother took her child when he was only 2 because she was constantly abandoning him for weeks and even months at a time to go in search for drugs. the hospitals here didn't start testing for it automatically at birth until about 5 or 6 years ago, my nephew will be 8 in july and knowing my sister as i do and seeing her throughout her pregnancy im sure he tested positive for crystal meth at birth and he has all the classic signs of a drug addicted baby, but nothing was done at the time to prevent her from taking him home. i am pretty sure now its different (hopefully)
how terrible for your nephew, jlette!
lorettalockhorn
04-21-2009, 07:09 PM
we have especially bad trouble with crystal meth here where i live, and the signs are pretty....well....obvious. my own older sister is a meth head and my mother took her child when he was only 2 because she was constantly abandoning him for weeks and even months at a time to go in search for drugs. the hospitals here didn't start testing for it automatically at birth until about 5 or 6 years ago, my nephew will be 8 in july and knowing my sister as i do and seeing her throughout her pregnancy im sure he tested positive for crystal meth at birth and he has all the classic signs of a drug addicted baby, but nothing was done at the time to prevent her from taking him home. i am pretty sure now its different (hopefully)
I have two adopted nieces who were victims of drug abuse while in utero; the doctors refused to discharge them from the hospital, the parents eventually abandoned them and they were adopted into my family by a baby crazy sibling. Both have had their disabilities legally removed and both are honor students including the crack baby. We have an excellent facility here for kids with disabilities, thank God, and it paid off.
Best wishes to your nephew and God bless your Mother!
lorettalockhorn
04-21-2009, 07:13 PM
still laughing at the water....
also verified junior went to the door, by a source of art harris, a preacher with his ear glued to a police scanner... (post 141 by AH on party girls busted)
HAHAHA Glad to know I'm not the only curmudgeon who listens to a police scanner! So even if Ron has the right to see or have visitation or whatever with Jordan, by what right does his buddy have to demand the child? (If true.) And to involve Junior in this nefarious plot should be cause for alarm.
Seriously, don't drink the water. You'll either end up pregnant or on drugs or stupid. Or any combination thereof.
ErrinSpelling
04-21-2009, 08:20 PM
I have two adopted nieces who were victims of drug abuse while in utero; the doctors refused to discharge them from the hospital, the parents eventually abandoned them and they were adopted into my family by a baby crazy sibling. Both have had their disabilities legally removed and both are honor students including the crack baby. We have an excellent facility here for kids with disabilities, thank God, and it paid off.
Best wishes to your nephew and God bless your Mother!
a happy ending!:beer:
ErrinSpelling
04-21-2009, 08:23 PM
HAHAHA Glad to know I'm not the only curmudgeon who listens to a police scanner! So even if Ron has the right to see or have visitation or whatever with Jordan, by what right does his buddy have to demand the child? (If true.) And to involve Junior in this nefarious plot should be cause for alarm.
Seriously, don't drink the water. You'll either end up pregnant or on drugs or stupid. Or any combination thereof.
i definitely don't need the - stupid - water..and i now know 3 scanner people.
i would place bets, that ron has no visitation, or his buddy, especially at 10 pm, for a 20 month old baby.
lorettalockhorn
04-21-2009, 09:25 PM
i definitely don't need the - stupid - water..and i now know 3 scanner people.
i would place bets, that ron has no visitation, or his buddy, especially at 10 pm, for a 20 month old baby.
Kinda past Junior's bedtime ain't it?
JLette
04-21-2009, 09:39 PM
:eek::eek::eek::
my head is spinning...well they need to get the children away from these people & let me just make up %'s ,like NG does & did last night, to make a point
or 99% of these children will grow up to be sociopaths & criminals just like the parents, or they will be ill & disabled from all the drug addict parents....then someday the entire town could be criminals... ron has 3 children, who are all ill ...
i am confused. i know that haleigh has turner syndrome, what is wrong with junior and the other mystery child? i did hear something about the other child being disabled, but i have not ever heard anything about junior at all
ErrinSpelling
04-21-2009, 09:51 PM
Kinda past Junior's bedtime ain't it?
in the world "that is all good & holy"
and normal.:hat:....
ErrinSpelling
04-21-2009, 09:54 PM
i am confused. i know that haleigh has turner syndrome, what is wrong with junior and the other mystery child? i did hear something about the other child being disabled, but i have not ever heard anything about junior at all
i knew i shouldn't have said that, but jr has a cardiologist, so i consider that ill....amber's baby has an illness having to do with a soft spot on his head..they have been writing about it at IS today..i have not seen a name for this.
Native Alien
04-21-2009, 10:02 PM
i am confused. i know that haleigh has turner syndrome, what is wrong with junior and the other mystery child? i did hear something about the other child being disabled, but i have not ever heard anything about junior at all
Jr. has a heart murmur, don't know how serious a murmur it is, and Jordan, ( Amber's son by Ron), has a soft skull. I sort of take that to mean that he still has the soft spot on the top of his head. At least that is my understanding of the situation with Junior and Jordan.
ErrinSpelling
04-21-2009, 10:07 PM
Jr. has a heart murmur, don't know how serious a murmur it is, and Jordan, ( Amber's son by Ron), has a soft skull. I sort of take that to mean that he still has the soft spot on the top of his head. At least that is my understanding of the situation with Junior and Jordan.
thank-you native!
lorettalockhorn
04-21-2009, 10:25 PM
Jr. has a heart murmur, don't know how serious a murmur it is, and Jordan, ( Amber's son by Ron), has a soft skull. I sort of take that to mean that he still has the soft spot on the top of his head. At least that is my understanding of the situation with Junior and Jordan.
Ditto on Junior's heart murmur, no clue as to how serious this is for him. As for Jordan, the fontanelles don't fully close until late teens or early twenties (to the best of my memory), so this must be something more serious.
JLette
04-21-2009, 10:39 PM
i always heard they were closed or healed or whatever before you hit your teens, maybe....i cant remember anymore tho lol
ErrinSpelling
04-22-2009, 12:34 AM
i'm reading this could be part of down's syndrome? i hope that's not true.
lorettalockhorn
04-22-2009, 01:09 AM
JLette and Errin, I did some googling and got all kinds of unprounounceable syndromes and maladies. Just no telling what the issue is with Amber's' little one.
ErrinSpelling
04-22-2009, 01:21 AM
JLette and Errin, I did some googling and got all kinds of unprounounceable syndromes and maladies. Just no telling what the issue is with Amber's' little one.
well you rest your weary googling eyes.that can't be fun.:hat:
Native Alien
04-22-2009, 02:29 AM
Ditto on Junior's heart murmur, no clue as to how serious this is for him. As for Jordan, the fontanelles don't fully close until late teens or early twenties (to the best of my memory), so this must be something more serious.
Fontanels don't usually close until about 2 or as late as 3 in some children. Seeing as Jordan is only 20 months I don't take this to be serious if this is the only problem that he has.
lorettalockhorn
04-22-2009, 03:04 AM
Fontanels don't usually close until about 2 or as late as 3 in some children. Seeing as Jordan is only 20 months I don't take this to be serious if this is the only problem that he has.
There are at least six and they close at different ages. Early or late closure can be symptomatic of several things. That I do know. What I don't know is what I was reading the other day that indicated that the final closing can be in young adulthood. :shrug:
This is what I found when I searched my desktop that I recently read:
...but the speno-occipital sychondrosis does not become obliterated until the late teens.
http://books.google.com/books?id=9W0zjcj2lQMC&pg=PA978&lpg=PA978&dq=fontanelle+closure+late+teens&source=bl&ots=TELyJ0Cyis&sig=UEF8t0WZIU-JVqGYO8FFewRqWZs&hl=en&ei=NMLuSbKKLJnMMpDLhOkP&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1
lorettalockhorn
04-22-2009, 03:14 AM
This looks like a good article (at least to a bumpkin like me!), but many indications:
http://www.aafp.org/afp/20030615/2547.html
Native Alien
04-22-2009, 06:35 AM
What bothers me about the whole Jordan thing is whether or not a doctor has said that he is or will be disabled. Or if Amber in a drug induced haze misunderstood what the doctor was telling her.
He looked like a normal baby in the one picture of him that I have seen.
RaVeN71806
04-22-2009, 09:44 AM
Don't see him on the PCSO jail roster, so I guess he's still at large. He's teflon.
Boy Ron just has to be center of attention..this is the man who keeps telling the news and people should be focusing on finding Haleigh as he fell to his knee's with his fake tears..he makes me sick that whole family makes me sick..they only one I feel for is Crystal because she is truly looking for her daughter..not getting tattoo's, getting married or stealing from the donation jar thats meant for his daughter..someone did something Haleigh I've known it from the begining and I'm sure many others besides myself think this..Misti knows more then whats being said..
RaVeN71806
04-22-2009, 10:02 AM
see I haven't seen any picture's of Jordan..but my daughters soft spot was closed right before she turned 1yrs old..so maybe its just every child is different I guess..:shrug:..I don't know..
deacon
04-22-2009, 10:32 AM
Who is "they"? Prosecutor? The judge? I think S. Carolina, MO and Iowa(?) have laws on the books and there could be others. TX either outlawed fetal rights or overturned a law or some such. Sounds like a fine topic for 3am research.
It happened here is SC a few years ago. Really sad. I think it was the judge that nixed it.
lorettalockhorn
04-22-2009, 11:48 AM
What bothers me about the whole Jordan thing is whether or not a doctor has said that he is or will be disabled. Or if Amber in a drug induced haze misunderstood what the doctor was telling her.
He looked like a normal baby in the one picture of him that I have seen.
I thought Jordan's head looked abnormally small in the pic on Amber's myspace, especially considering newborn's heads usually look disproportionately large, and then we learned that his is labeled as disabled (I think those were Amber's words as reported by AH or Cobra). That pic bothered me also because her Marlboros were right next to her while she was holding the babe.
So Ron has three children that we know of with health issues of some significance. Time for a vasectomy. At least then he wouldn't be actually impregnating jailbait.
Woostock
04-22-2009, 12:37 PM
Hey Loretta
those are fighting words. Vasectomy--Ronald whoa....
There ought to be a law; so sad. We have "Ronald " type parents at school and some of these lowlifes have six or seven kids and all are in special education!! The parents do not in any way meet the criteria of being a parent. Most of the kids are raising themselves. Drugs are a big issue as well. It is heart breaking.
deacon
04-22-2009, 01:00 PM
I thought Jordan's head looked abnormally small in the pic on Amber's myspace, especially considering newborn's heads usually look disproportionately large, and then we learned that his is labeled as disabled (I think those were Amber's words as reported by AH or Cobra). That pic bothered me also because her Marlboros were right next to her while she was holding the babe.
So Ron has three children that we know of with health issues of some significance. Time for a vasectomy. At least then he wouldn't be actually impregnating jailbait.
It only takes 45 mins. from beginning to end and doesn't really hurt any.:eek:
lorettalockhorn
04-22-2009, 01:30 PM
Hey Loretta
those are fighting words. Vasectomy--Ronald whoa....
There ought to be a law; so sad. We have "Ronald " type parents at school and some of these lowlifes have six or seven kids and all are in special education!! The parents do not in any way meet the criteria of being a parent. Most of the kids are raising themselves. Drugs are a big issue as well. It is heart breaking.
Sad, sad state of affairs. I'm all for involuntary sterilization as a preventive measure in some cases. From what I can tell, Ron has no means of support for the children that he already has. Unless you count Mother Teresa and those collection jars (according to rumor). Well, I guess he's collecting unemployment insurance. Maybe has a big ole tax return.
lorettalockhorn
04-22-2009, 01:31 PM
It only takes 45 mins. from beginning to end and doesn't really hurt any.:eek:
There's got to be a dirty joke in there somewhere! :hat:
deacon
04-22-2009, 01:47 PM
There's got to be a dirty joke in there somewhere! :hat:
You are reading things into my post that are not there. However, your thoughts were funny once I thought about it.:eek:
lorettalockhorn
04-22-2009, 02:41 PM
You are reading things into my post that are not there. However, your thoughts were funny once I thought about it.:eek:
We have dirty minds here at Chez Lockhorn and if we had a catchphrase it would be: there's got to be a dirty joke in there somewhere. Leroy and I rarely think alike or have the same opinion, but we've said that in unison probably hundreds of times. :hat:
DrewBerry
04-22-2009, 06:05 PM
still laughing at the water....
also verified junior went to the door, by a source of art harris, a preacher with his ear glued to a police scanner... (post 141 by AH on party girls busted)
Me too! LMAO when I read Loretta's appeal about the water in Satsuma. . .I'm almost convinced it could be tainted in the entire state of FL given the crazy Ants!! We do need to laugh once in awhile. It's good for the soul.
DrewB
wind149
04-22-2009, 06:47 PM
Even if they were to take all their kids, this trash would just calve out some more. A little 9 nine year old girl from lower MI, Genessee County was found dead in a storage unit and autopsy results are pending, she was reported missing three weeks ago, relatives said she had gone off with a another relative. Mommy is jail and now it looks like she will be charged with felony murder and welfare fraud, another innocent child brought into this world by a crack head who had the kid just for the check. I am amazed honeypie ain't pregnant with Ronrage's baby, maybe because they have been living apart, does anyone know where they or she is living??? Ya notice too the most fertile people tend to be low-life trash like this whole clan??? Decent, hard-working folks seem to always get the short end of the fertility stick while scum can calve them out till the uterus falls apart??
There is this guy who is kinda a friend of a friend and this guy is a whack job! He has been collecting SS bennies since he was 29, I think he is like 67 now, and had 10 kids, two died, all of them touched in the head! Geez, ya have one, should that not have been a clue to have no more? He has two sons in jail that are sex offenders, one committed suicide, three are retarded, one daughter has spinal bifida, ya get the picture. Now he is divorced from the Mama and man does she clean up on SSI checks because of these kids!! All but 4 of them live with her, I am betting she gets at least $5,000 a month in bennies, the one son that committed suicide, she was able to convince a jury that the therapist led to her son's tragic death, when in reality, the kid drove his car right into a semi at about 60 miles an hour and this jury awarded her and the Daddy a tidy sum, enough where they both bought brand new houses and cars, this is a gene pool where everybody should have drowned!!!
I said to my friend, God, I hope none of them have kids of their own and sure nuff, one son just had one, I hope he is normal and to think this poor child has two uncles that are sexual predators and when I said something to their Daddy about how I hate SO's he proceeds to tell me that his sons were railroaded because of their mental health issues and I am like huh? I had just looked up the record of the oldest as Brenda wanted me to, he had lured a little girl into his truck with a kitten and took her out in the woods where he raped her for hours and he of course got caught, the girl had seen him before at the library and as this come to light, his sister comes forward and says that she had been posing for pictures pure kiddy porn since she was 11, and she is like 29 now??? He got 10 years and served 5, got out and within days, he got caught at the library where he was not allowed to go to, and a security guard recognized him and called police. He knew he was busted, so he went home and tried to commit suicide by throwing a blow dryer while he was in the tub!! It failed, LE arrested him and he is now doing 20 years!!! How was he railroaded? The other one had sex with an 13 year old girl and he was like 22?? The Daddy insists it was consensual, but the girl said that she wanted nothing to do with him and he forced her, his lawyer tried to retard defense, like because he is "slow" he did not know what he was doing?
Most retarded people have no clue what sex is unless they have been exposed to it??? Now the state and Gov have to shell out money for these two losers and their spawn for the rest of their lives and it makes me sick!!! I think they had all these kids, knowing they would get checks!!I wonder, anyone know if Crystal is still working or did she chuck her job too?? As for honeypie, she has never worked a day in her life and probably never will, she will get knocked up eventually whether it be by Ronnie or some other low-life loser, she is not all there in the head either, ya can tell, she has that DUH look on her face everytime you see her and drugs have probably killed a few cells she needed to keep and you look at her family and they are just like the losers I just described!! I bet there were no more than 50 teeth among them and her Daddy looked like he had hit the moonshine bottle before he "gives the bride away" to her "knight in shining 9 mm" That marriage is a total sham, I think they thought that if they got hitched, then anything that happened that night, that spousal rights would apply and I just wish that twit would just own up to what really went down that night, LE has no leads, and no real timeline and I am wondering about Putnam CO. They had two badasses escape from their jail in broad daylight, shades of Barney??? I think they are ill equipped to handle a case like this, they are too used to dealing with low-lifes and not abducted children.
Native Alien
04-22-2009, 07:24 PM
Psychic Gale's impressions
http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/1416442
There is more and I will be posting them as I can this evening.
JVM is going to have Art Harris on this evening as well.
lorettalockhorn
04-22-2009, 07:43 PM
Thanks NA. Running a little behind on JVM, she just got to Art, and she reported about the Cummings dealio the other night.
Okay, Art says Jordan has micro-encephaly.
911 call at The Bald Truth. I'll go and get it.
lorettalockhorn
04-22-2009, 07:47 PM
Exclusive: BOLO For Haleigh Cummings’ Dad?
UPDATE WED. April 22, 3:40 pm.
By Art Harris, The Bald Truth, © www.artharris.com, all rights reserved
*******Warning: do not republish without permission*******
It was Sunday night about 10 p.m. when a frightened grandmother called the Putnam County Sheriff. Mary Brooks, 63, had just spotted the father of missing five year old Haleigh Cummings cruising through her parking lot in his purple Nissan Altima with tinted windows.
“You know Ronald Cummings, whose daughter is missing?” Mary Brooks asked the dispatcher on the exclusive police audio tape obtained by The Bald Truth.
“Yes, Ma’am,” replied the officer.
“He was driving through my parking lot tonight,” explained the grandmother of Amber Brooks, an ex- Cummings girlfriend who gave birth to his disabled son, Jordan.
“I have custody of his son he claimed he didn’t have (on national TV when Cummings mentioned he only had two children); he’s one year old and I’m very leary about that,” Mary Brooks went on. “(Ronald) and his new wife (Misty)…drove through here, and about an hour later, some guy come knocking on my door, and I didn’t answer it.”
Tipped to the incident Sunday night by William Staubs, a tireless bounty hunter and private eye nicknamed “Cobra” who is working pro bono on the Haleigh Cummings mystery, I called police, then a source who said he’d earlier told Cobra he’d heard over a police scanner that Cummings’ son, Junior, had knocked on the grandmother’s door, asking to see his brother. The source is a local preacher who monitors police radio traffic and has been reliable in the past.
Only the Junior incident never happened, I can now report. It’s not on the police audio tape I obtained, and, while authorities are checking the radio traffic, Mary Brooks tells me, in an exclusive interview Wednesday, she never saw Junior.
“I wish I had seen him, I miss that little rascal,” said Amber’s grandmother, Mary recalls putting out crayons and coloring books for Haleigh and her little brother, Junior. Amber and Ronald would bring them to visit, she said, when Amber was pregnant with Jordan and living with Cummings. “She watched Haleigh and Junior all the time.”
But on Sunday night, she said, there was no reason for Cummings to be in her ‘hood, she figured–except one: She feared he might be trying to take the toddler he’d fathered with Amber. Jordan has been staying with her.
With no legal custody order in place, Cummings would be well within his rights to demand she hand over the child, as the biological father, say family law experts, even though Amber Brooks claims her ex has seen little of the child since they split, and pays no child support.
In our interview, Mary Brooks told me that she’s been caring for the baby for several months after Amber tumbled into an abyss of drugs and partying.
Indeed, Amber was arrested Monday and charged with cocaine possession, along with Misty Cummings party friend Kristina Prevatt; her grandmother tells me she dropped by to visit Monday night after Cobra bonded the women out of Putnam County jail and treated them to a chicken dinner. Mary says she begged her grandchild to go to rehab “to get her life straight, but she didn’t want none of it,” says Brooks.
In a recent interview, Prevatt told me she’d run into Amber while chauffeuring Misty Cummings on her weekend of drugs, sex and rock and roll with “White Boy Greg” Page. According to police and interviews I’ve done with her and other friends, it was a party that ended 36 hours before Misty reported Haleigh had vanished from the trailer the 17 year old babysitter shared with Ronald.
Witnesses tell me Misty and Amber nearly came to blows at a party that weekend, with Amber smarting that Misty had not only stolen her ex, but concerned she was threatening to take her son, Jordan.
According to her grandmother, Amber had few role models, and dropped out of high school. Mary had legal custody for a year when Amber was 12 “because her mother had drug problems. Amber is following in her mother’s footsteps,” says Mary.
Amber was born when her own mother was 19. “She wasn’t the mothering type,” says Mary who counts four children and several grandchildren, including Amber’s little brother, Dawson, age 8. “I think all my kids would tell you they had it good growing up,” says Mary, who moved from New Jersey to Palatka with her husband years ago.
When Amber lived with Ronald, she got to see Haleigh and Junior when they’d visit. “They’d come by every couple of weeks,” she says. “His kids are adorable. Junior is a sweetheart, but he told me Haleigh was his favorite. You could tell.”
As for discipline, she once saw him spank Junior when he was sucking his thumb at two years old, she says. “I don’t believe in that. He was crying, so I picked him up and sat on the couch. Why beat a child for sucking his thumb? But I never seen him rip ‘em up and throw ‘em or anything drastic.”
Calls to Cummings’ mother, Teresa Neves, and his lawyers, asking for comment, were not returned by press time.
When Amber left the baby with her grandmother when Jordan was three or four months old, Mary Brooks says she got a call from Ronald. “He said, ‘I want to see the baby. So he came over and took the baby. The next day he was back at my house with Jordan and all his things.” She says that was his father’s last visit.
To complicate matters, Jordan was born with a genetic disorder called Microcephaly, where the head is smaller than normal from abnormal brain growth. It’s associated with Down’s syndrome, according to medical texts, and can be caused by a variety of factors, including, if during pregnancy the mother abused drugs or alcohol, was exposed to toxic chemicals or other diseases. She worries about Jordan.
“He’s very hot-tempered,” says Mary, “has fits and cries and screams, but to me, he’s very smart. I’m just worried about him later.”
She was also worried when a man knocked on her door Sunday night, an hour after Cummings did his drive by. Mary Brooks says she told police she feared he was sent by Ronald to take Jordan, who she adores and draws a small government check for his disability.
On the police tape we obtained, Brooks can be heard saying she “peeked out my peep hole” and saw a “thin, black guy, maybe a friend of (Ronald’s). He does not need to be here, claiming, you know, bothering me about the baby he said he didn’t have.”
The “baby he didn’t have” is a reference to Cummings statement when Haleigh went missing, saying he only had two children, says Brooks. “He didn’t mention Jordan.”
On the tape, the dispatcher asks, “When he came through, did he stop at all or drive through?”
“He just cruised through and my daughter was coming through and they passed each other, and she (saw) his new wife…I’m the great grandmother, and I have custody of the baby and I’m very upset…”
“OK, I’m going to get an officer out there,” says the dispatcher. “If he comes back, just call me back and don’t open the door.”
“Thank you,” said Brooks.
When officers drove through the neighborhood looking for Cummings, they didn’t see his car, but did interview Brooks. No report was filed because there was no evidence a crime had been committed, Palatka police officials told me. But Brooks tells me she followed up with a visit to police headquarters Tuesday and asked an officer to to fill out an incident report.
http://www.artharris.com/2009/04/22/exclusive-bolo-for-haleigh-cummings-dad/
Police tape at link.
lorettalockhorn
04-22-2009, 07:49 PM
Watch Art on CNN Jane Velez Mitchell Tonight!
http://www.artharris.com/
wind149
04-22-2009, 07:54 PM
A talking head says that Granny is collecting an SSI check for the baby, maybe Ronnie thinks he is entitled to that too?? I remember when he was asked early on if he had any more kids and his answer was possibly?? I think an ulterior motive of greed is the only reason he might want the child or could it be that he wants to spin he is a good daddy? OH, how precious, his daughter is missing, but he has now been reunited with another child??? Can you see the touching pictures now? (GAG) And I had to laugh about the bio mom of this kid, in jail for drugs??? And also Misti's buddy Nay Nay too?? I tell ya this whole clan is about the most white trash you can find and the fact that the kid was born with issues, Mommy and Daddy were/are doing drugs, Mama probably used throughout the pregnancy and the end result is her child is born with brain issues, it does not sound to me that this child will ever be normal and Haleigh had been diagnosed with Turners, wonder if JR is gonna turn out normal?? I would not waste anymore air time on this until they find Haleigh's body.
lorettalockhorn
04-22-2009, 07:56 PM
>>I bet there were no more than 50 teeth among them
http://i16.tinypic.com/47ak938.jpg http://i2.tinypic.com/orns5t.jpg http://i3.tinypic.com/2j5fgbd.jpg http://i2.tinypic.com/24wu4k0.jpg http://i34.tinypic.com/2d77rb4.jpg
You know, the county sheriff where I live is just about to break his budget because of the meth mouth problems in our neck of the woods and the number of guests in his establishment with the problem.
Native Alien
04-22-2009, 08:32 PM
More from Gale St. Johns
http://psychicgalestjohn.com/cases/Haleigh.html
lighthousedazy
04-23-2009, 12:38 AM
>>I bet there were no more than 50 teeth among them
http://i16.tinypic.com/47ak938.jpg http://i2.tinypic.com/orns5t.jpg http://i3.tinypic.com/2j5fgbd.jpg http://i2.tinypic.com/24wu4k0.jpg http://i34.tinypic.com/2d77rb4.jpg
You know, the county sheriff where I live is just about to break his budget because of the meth mouth problems in our neck of the woods and the number of guests in his establishment with the problem.Meth is such a terrible problem in the southeast, and I guess about everywhere. I can spot a meth user/addict from a mile away - loss of teeth, sores on face, thin hair, and appearing to be 20 to 30 years older than you actually are. Goodness, my teeth are bad from being a former smoker and lover of sugar, and my skin is not that great from being a sun lover and an occasional drink of the hagnog. I can't imagine what I would look like if I partook of these joys that they seem to love in Satsuma. jmo
Native Alien
04-23-2009, 08:20 AM
A little off topic here but I think that meth is a problem everywhere.
The thing with this particular community is that it has went so long without proper LE in place that it will likely take years to get half of the mess cleaned up. The "good ole boy" network is alive and well in Satsuma.
I believe that Haleigh is gone from us. I believe that it happened before Ron ever left for work. I believe that Misti knows what happened. I will continue to believe this until they find her alive.
I believe that Ron knows exactly where she is and I believe that he was thinking of trying to get Jordan for some reason. I am glad that he didn't.
Woostock
04-23-2009, 08:39 AM
I too, believe that Haleigh is gone, unfortunately. I think that Misty knows what happened and I tend to think she was out and about when it occured. But who knows. These low bottom feeders don't know the truth if it hits them in the head, they all do drugs and are really crappy!!! I run into some bad situations but nothing as bad as what is portrayed here. I wonder why early intervention was not involved with these children if indeed there are disabilities. I can usually get child services involved if I make a HV but we haven't heard if EI was ever involved. Not that I would have wanted to deal witih rageaholic Ron esp reporting him!!! Yikes
RaVeN71806
04-23-2009, 02:26 PM
ooh if I was a neighbor on Ron and I saw something not right..I'd report him in a heartbeat..he acts like a hard butt but thats only towards women because hes nothing but a punk ass scumbag...but I'm one woman that wouldn't take his crap so yeah I would report..:)
Native Alien
04-23-2009, 07:19 PM
New Video from sky.
Scroll down and check them out.
http://www.thesky973.com/pages/4014463.php
lorettalockhorn
04-23-2009, 10:32 PM
Thanks for the link! Haen't watched the video yet, but this is interesting:
Staubs believes these women are key to this investigation.
Why? Key, as in having firsthand information?
&
Our belief is that until a body is produced, Haleigh is still alive.
Our goal is to find her and return her home safely.
Oh me of little faith.
lorettalockhorn
04-23-2009, 10:35 PM
Also wondering how Amber and Nay Nay came to be arrested; have I missed the details somewhere? The went first thing to the SO (for what? a visit? to be interviewed?) And just happened to be holding?
Native Alien
04-24-2009, 03:46 AM
I haven't seen the exact details but I do know that if you look on Art's site it gives their booking time as 8:30 to 8:40 in the morning so that would lead me to believe that they were arrested earlier in the morning. More than likely within a couple of hours of the booking time.
The contraband charge most likely comes because one of them was holding something that was brought in with them. That could have been anything from a lighter to actual pills or drugs of some sort that they didn't tell the officers that they had, that was found when they did the search. If they didn't have a female deputy on the streets at the time, they could have waited until they got them back to the jail to do the search and that would explain the contraband charge as well.
While most of the people involved have a history of being violent with each other they don't have a history of being violent with LE and most drug users know that they really don't want to be violent with LE because that only causes them more problems.
There has also been some question as to whether or not Ron might have planted stuff on them and then called in a tip to LE but I find that unlikely. More than likely cops have just been watching them harder because of the interview with Whiteboy Greg. LE now knows who is doing what in the group because of the interviews that some people are doing.
lorettalockhorn
04-24-2009, 11:59 AM
Thanks, NA. It doesn't make sense to charge these girls with contraband if the contraband items were on them when arrested; that would be a possession charge. And what idiot sashays down to the pokey with a stash? And why unless they were planning on trying to pass the drugs to someone or stupidly thought they wouldn't be searched? Do these girls not know the ins and outs of the jail? I think they do.
So. We need to know why they came to the jail and if it was because of an arrest, what time did that occur. And if they were arrested off premises, we need to know why their purses weren't searched; a female officer is not required for that task. (Pretty sure I read that the dope was in the handbag(s)).
And I'm really scratching my head over what firsthand details Amber could have of the crime against Haleigh. For her to have actually been on scene at the Cummings trailer with her arch-nemesis Misty is every bit as insane as WBG having been there. Of course, it was probably a forgone conclusion that Misty would be crashed after her weekend of debauchery.
Yes, it's occurred to me that the drugs found on Amber were planted. Then again, maybe she is as moronic as the rest of this crew.
lighthousedazy
04-25-2009, 12:10 AM
Let's keep searching for Haleigh and not forget her. She is still missing and has not been found. ( A little different from the Caylee case). Caylee was murdered and her remains have been found. :( :rose:
RaVeN71806
04-25-2009, 08:19 AM
Thanks, NA. It doesn't make sense to charge these girls with contraband if the contraband items were on them when arrested; that would be a possession charge. And what idiot sashays down to the pokey with a stash? And why unless they were planning on trying to pass the drugs to someone or stupidly thought they wouldn't be searched? Do these girls not know the ins and outs of the jail? I think they do.
So. We need to know why they came to the jail and if it was because of an arrest, what time did that occur. And if they were arrested off premises, we need to know why their purses weren't searched; a female officer is not required for that task. (Pretty sure I read that the dope was in the handbag(s)).
And I'm really scratching my head over what firsthand details Amber could have of the crime against Haleigh. For her to have actually been on scene at the Cummings trailer with her arch-nemesis Misty is every bit as insane as WBG having been there. Of course, it was probably a forgone conclusion that Misty would be crashed after her weekend of debauchery.
Yes, it's occurred to me that the drugs found on Amber were planted. Then again, maybe she is as moronic as the rest of this crew.
I really think these girls know something actually I'm really hopeing they know something...
Native Alien
04-26-2009, 04:02 PM
I believe that they do know something. The problem is that someone has to speak " their language" so to speak to understand what it is that they do know. I know that Mr. Straub aka Cobra didn't post their bail because he isn't a bondsman. Which he would have to be in order to throw their bond. I also believe that he doesn't have the cash needed to bail them out so therefore someone else paid the bill he just picked them up and fed them a meal.
I do think that LE needs to come clean about what they have. May 10 will be 4 months that Haleigh has been missing and that is way to long. They were good up until about the 3rd week that she was gone, and then nothing. They need to tell people what they suspect. They need to release all the evidence that they have so people that are involved in Haleigh's life can figure out who took her and pressure that person or persons to tell where they put her.
LE won't solve this one in my opinion. This one is going to be solved by the people that love and care about Haleigh finding out who took her and what was done with her and then informing LE of what they know. I think that a good place to start would be with Misti and she needs a blanket party in the worse of ways until she either admits straight up that she wasn't in the trailer at the time Haleigh went missing or tells the truth about what happened to Haleigh.
lorettalockhorn
04-26-2009, 04:13 PM
NA, I've read all over the place that Staubs is a licensed bondsman, and that he did post bail for Amber and Nay Nay; what's the lowdown?
Found this blog entry which I don't mind posting because it does list sources:
http://www.bloggernews.net/120609
Includes this snippet:
April 25, 2009: I have recieved an update from Mr. Hart regarding Ronald Cummings and the BOLO that was reported on him:
Mr. Hart:
“911 call went to Palatka Police Department and not the Putnam County Sheriff’s Office last Sunday.
Scanner listener did not hear the scanner traffic clearly…..
No Junior involved! False claim by 1 scanner listener that needs to be cleared up.
Art Harris got the 911 tapes hours befor I got them….you can hear the call at www.artharris.com
What you heard on the tape Art provides is factual.”
I had listened to the 911 call the other day, and didn't think there was any mention of Jr @ all. I think this is the same one I heard. Wonder what the scanner listener was listening to that he came up w/the Jr story?
Native Alien
04-26-2009, 07:09 PM
Art stated that the person that he got the information about the 911 call from had been up to that point a very creditable source. They think that the Jr thing was just a misunderstanding with competing voice traffic over the scanner and that the person got 2 calls mixed together.
It is my understanding that Cobra is a bounty hunter and not a bondsman himself. He works for All Out Bail Bonds Fort Myers Florida, and he also does some private work for himself. I can't find any record of him being an actual bondsman.
lorettalockhorn
04-26-2009, 08:30 PM
Per David Lohr:
...In the midst of all of this, licensed bondsman and surety agent William "Cobra" Staubs was hired by an anonymous source to investigate Haleigh's disappearance...
http://blogs.discovery.com/criminal_report/2009/04/haleigh-cummings.html
Per TJ Hart on JVM:
... Especially William Staubs, a bounty hunter bondsman who made a contact through Ronald Cummings...
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0904/13/ijvm.01.html
Those seem like pretty reliable sources. Is there some sort of issue about Cobra being a bondsman?
That is interesting about the scanner traffic; on mine you only hear one channel at once (and you can see which channel/LE agency is transmitting), but if there is a long enough break it traffic, it will scan to the next transmission. Of course, I'm such a yenta that when I hear something interesting, I lock in that channel so I won't miss anything. That said, I'm thinking that the scanner in that neck of the woods never stops. Sounds like a pretty lawless area!
ETA: Glad Junior wasn't involved. Was wondering how the heck a four year old lures a little one.
Native Alien
04-26-2009, 09:33 PM
Loretta I will double check about Cobra with some sources that I have in Florida and I will also check with the state and see what I come up with but the last that I had heard Cobra was not a licensed bondsman.
Native Alien
04-26-2009, 11:22 PM
Okay after searching and making a few phone calls to find the right place to search here is what I have come up with.
Licensee Details
4/25/2009
Demographic Information
Name of Licensee: STAUBS, WILLIAM EUGENE
License #: D029071
Business Location: MIAMI,FLORIDA
Types and Classes of Valid Licenses
Type License Status Date -->
Original Issue Date Qualifying Appointment
LIMITED SURETY AGENT (BAIL)(0234) 9/8/2000 YES
LIMITED SURETY AGENT (BAIL)(0234)
http://www.myfloridacfo.com/Data/AAR_ALIS1/LicenseeDetail.asp?idno=D029071&name=STAUBS%2C+WILLIAM+EUGENE&city=MIAMI%2CFLORIDA
Basically he is a licensed bailbondsman and he can work anywhere in the state of Florida to bond people out. But I still could swear that I read that he didn't do the bond on Amber and Nay Nay that he just gave them a ride home and made sure that they had a meal. I am still looking for the arrest reports.
ErrinSpelling
04-27-2009, 04:39 AM
NA, I've read all over the place that Staubs is a licensed bondsman, and that he did post bail for Amber and Nay Nay; what's the lowdown?
Found this blog entry which I don't mind posting because it does list sources:
http://www.bloggernews.net/120609
Includes this snippet:
April 25, 2009: I have recieved an update from Mr. Hart regarding Ronald Cummings and the BOLO that was reported on him:
Mr. Hart:
“911 call went to Palatka Police Department and not the Putnam County Sheriff’s Office last Sunday.
Scanner listener did not hear the scanner traffic clearly…..
No Junior involved! False claim by 1 scanner listener that needs to be cleared up.
Art Harris got the 911 tapes hours befor I got them….you can hear the call at www.artharris.com
What you heard on the tape Art provides is factual.”
loretta & native alien...the first day art harris wrote cobra bailed out the girls...the next day, he wrote the bond co. bailed them out & cobra gave them a ride...the 3rd day, in his comments section, he wrote: cobra paid 600 .00 & a bond co. guaranteed the bail...i wrote the post # somewhere, but have no idea which page it;s on now there are so many.
ErrinSpelling
04-27-2009, 05:02 AM
also, i would bet the farm, that i the end we will hear jr. was really there again...i don't think the preacher was the only one with his ear glued to the scanner, that heard that.....yall know the 3 video's above..in one cobra is saying something like,i know ,i know, he wasn't the only one who heard that ,it sounds like to me...he is holding 3 scanners ,at the same time....said they are all on....
and how could g gma brooks see jr. through a peephole?
ErrinSpelling
04-27-2009, 05:25 AM
loretta , native alien: i finally found it....the last paragraph of post #46 of nay nay talks by art harris at the bottom of the person's post.
Native Alien
04-27-2009, 06:37 AM
loretta , native alien: i finally found it....the last paragraph of post #46 of nay nay talks by art harris at the bottom of the person's post.
Thanks Errin.
I know that I had read that he didn't bail them out and that he gave them a ride home and that he got them food (KFC I think it was).
Native Alien
04-27-2009, 06:56 AM
New from Art Harris
http://www.artharris.com/2009/04/27/exclusive-haleigh-cummings-dads-solid-alibi/#more-1731
Exclusive: Haleigh Cummings—-Dad’s Solid Alibi?
To co-workers within earshot of Ronald Cummings at Palatka, Florida’s PDM Bridge, Misty Croslin sounded hysterical when she called one night weeks before the 17 year old babysitter reported his daughter, Haleigh, had vanished while he was at work and she was asleep with the kids.
“I remember she called him in tears, because the little girl was giving her fits and he told her, ‘Whip her, just whip her and make her be quiet,’” recalls fellow crane operator Eric Zastrow, 32, in an exclusive interview with The Bald Truth. “He said, ‘Just whip the little brat, she needs to understand it’s time to go to bed, or put a movie in for her.’ Then he hung up.”
also, i would bet the farm, that i the end we will hear jr. was really there again...i don't think the preacher was the only one with his ear glued to the scanner, that heard that.....yall know the 3 video's above..in one cobra is saying something like,i know ,i know, he wasn't the only one who heard that ,it sounds like to me...he is holding 3 scanners ,at the same time....said they are all on....
and how could g gma brooks see jr. through a peephole?
Did Gma Brooks call 911 more than once? Because in the call that has been released, she doesn't mention Jr @ all, just her grandson.
New from Art Harris
http://www.artharris.com/2009/04/27/exclusive-haleigh-cummings-dads-solid-alibi/#more-1731
Exclusive: Haleigh Cummings—-Dad’s Solid Alibi?
To co-workers within earshot of Ronald Cummings at Palatka, Florida’s PDM Bridge, Misty Croslin sounded hysterical when she called one night weeks before the 17 year old babysitter reported his daughter, Haleigh, had vanished while he was at work and she was asleep with the kids.
“I remember she called him in tears, because the little girl was giving her fits and he told her, ‘Whip her, just whip her and make her be quiet,’” recalls fellow crane operator Eric Zastrow, 32, in an exclusive interview with The Bald Truth. “He said, ‘Just whip the little brat, she needs to understand it’s time to go to bed, or put a movie in for her.’ Then he hung up.”
Very interesting, for sure!!! So, it wasn't just a quiet evening @ home w/the kids. From her accounts (Misti's) she put in the movie, wonder if she whupped that girl?
ErrinSpelling
04-27-2009, 10:46 AM
Thanks Errin.
I know that I had read that he didn't bail them out and that he gave them a ride home and that he got them food (KFC I think it was).
i knew i did too NA...every time there is a story, it seems ,anywhere, it gets changed around, since day 1 .it's like no one speaks english .
RaVeN71806
04-27-2009, 10:51 AM
New from Art Harris
http://www.artharris.com/2009/04/27/exclusive-haleigh-cummings-dads-solid-alibi/#more-1731
Exclusive: Haleigh Cummings—-Dad’s Solid Alibi?
To co-workers within earshot of Ronald Cummings at Palatka, Florida’s PDM Bridge, Misty Croslin sounded hysterical when she called one night weeks before the 17 year old babysitter reported his daughter, Haleigh, had vanished while he was at work and she was asleep with the kids.
“I remember she called him in tears, because the little girl was giving her fits and he told her, ‘Whip her, just whip her and make her be quiet,’” recalls fellow crane operator Eric Zastrow, 32, in an exclusive interview with The Bald Truth. “He said, ‘Just whip the little brat, she needs to understand it’s time to go to bed, or put a movie in for her.’ Then he hung up.”
sounds to me misti had a hardtime handling Haleigh sometimes..this is very interesting..I love how he says "just whip the little brat" boy he really is the father of the year..
ErrinSpelling
04-27-2009, 10:51 AM
New from Art Harris
http://www.artharris.com/2009/04/27/exclusive-haleigh-cummings-dads-solid-alibi/#more-1731
Exclusive: Haleigh Cummings—-Dad’s Solid Alibi?
To co-workers within earshot of Ronald Cummings at Palatka, Florida’s PDM Bridge, Misty Croslin sounded hysterical when she called one night weeks before the 17 year old babysitter reported his daughter, Haleigh, had vanished while he was at work and she was asleep with the kids.
“I remember she called him in tears, because the little girl was giving her fits and he told her, ‘Whip her, just whip her and make her be quiet,’” recalls fellow crane operator Eric Zastrow, 32, in an exclusive interview with The Bald Truth. “He said, ‘Just whip the little brat, she needs to understand it’s time to go to bed, or put a movie in for her.’ Then he hung up.”
you know what, i bet we have wasted 400- 1000 hours of our lives reading posts, where the ronettes blame chad & made up, he wasn't allowed near his childdren, just , b/c of the form that was used & turns out he has custody.
:mad: who will they blame today?
ErrinSpelling
04-27-2009, 10:55 AM
Did Gma Brooks call 911 more than once? Because in the call that has been released, she doesn't mention Jr @ all, just her grandson.
i don't think so, but do you know the article under the videos, are not exactly the same..there is usually more info,in the articles...i think, i read she looked through the peephole & saw a tall thin ...man.....so i was just thinking, jr. is too short, to be seen through a peephole.
ErrinSpelling
04-27-2009, 10:59 AM
sounds to me misti had a hardtime handling Haleigh sometimes..this is very interesting..I love how he says "just whip the little brat" boy he really is the father of the year..
yes and misty isn't sounding like mother of the year , stepmother of the year,or babysitter of the year, either as she portrayed herself to be 24/7, ....
lorettalockhorn
04-27-2009, 11:14 AM
Loretta I will double check about Cobra with some sources that I have in Florida and I will also check with the state and see what I come up with but the last that I had heard Cobra was not a licensed bondsman.
You can pretty much take anything David Lohr says to the bank. Not that familiar with TJH and AH, but it looks like they're reliable on the facts of this case so far (not so sure about the theories), and at least went so far as to make a retraction about Junior's involvement in the Jordan Luring Episode.
lorettalockhorn
04-27-2009, 11:17 AM
New from Art Harris
http://www.artharris.com/2009/04/27/exclusive-haleigh-cummings-dads-solid-alibi/#more-1731
Exclusive: Haleigh Cummings—-Dad’s Solid Alibi?
To co-workers within earshot of Ronald Cummings at Palatka, Florida’s PDM Bridge, Misty Croslin sounded hysterical when she called one night weeks before the 17 year old babysitter reported his daughter, Haleigh, had vanished while he was at work and she was asleep with the kids.
“I remember she called him in tears, because the little girl was giving her fits and he told her, ‘Whip her, just whip her and make her be quiet,’” recalls fellow crane operator Eric Zastrow, 32, in an exclusive interview with The Bald Truth. “He said, ‘Just whip the little brat, she needs to understand it’s time to go to bed, or put a movie in for her.’ Then he hung up.”
Poor Haleigh.
lorettalockhorn
04-27-2009, 11:20 AM
you know what, i bet we have wasted 400- 1000 hours of our lives reading posts, where the ronettes blame chad & made up, he wasn't allowed near his childdren, just , b/c of the form that was used & turns out he has custody.
:mad: who will they blame today?
I don't read at IS, but it's been ascertained for some time that Chad has custody of his kids. Not sure what form you speak of. :confused:
Who to blame? How's about the custodial parent and the person he willingly chose to be in charge of his son and his daughter who was stolen. You know, Haleigh.
Gatordog
04-27-2009, 11:48 AM
I don't read at IS, but it's been ascertained for some time that Chad has custody of his kids. Not sure what form you speak of. :confused:
Who to blame? How's about the custodial parent and the person he willingly chose to be in charge of his son and his daughter who was stolen. You know, Haleigh.
Why isn't George Anthony taking out his "specially equipped" boat out on the St. John's river looking for Haleigh's body. It was only 500 feet to the river from the mobile home. Is he waiting for someone to go missing at the retention pond of his subdivision?
Gator
lorettalockhorn
04-27-2009, 12:00 PM
Why isn't George Anthony taking out his "specially equipped" boat out on the St. John's river looking for Haleigh's body. It was only 500 feet to the river from the mobile home. Is he waiting for someone to go missing at the retention pond of his subdivision?
Gator
Yeah, he beat a hot trail over to Satsuma while he was fragile. Now that he's obviously back to his old feisty self, you would think! But hasn't LE put the kibosh on searches?
wind149
04-27-2009, 12:51 PM
I still think this whole thing rests on Misti and if the co-workers heard correctly they just confirmed that he beats his children just like Crystal has maintained and he gives permission to Misti to beat his kids too?? I would like to stand on record that I called this white trash the way I saw it and have I been wrong??? On 5/10 it will be 4 months since this child was last seen alive and this little piece of trash tail needs to come clean because it will go down worse than she could imagine if Haleigh's body or whereabouts and the person that took her confirms that she knew from the moment she went missing who took her and the reason I say this is, she calls Ron whining that Haleigh was acting up, tells me right there she was not too keen on playing mommy and possibly has made sure Haleigh is never coming back alive which sadly, I think that will be the case, too much time has passed now, we all kinda figured out that Caylee was dead and probably died in June and I agree LE needs to get their head out of their ass and go after Misti, hard, my guys would have broken her by now, especially this one detective who is a whiz bang on getting people to give it up, he is awesome to observe, he is just too slick, but he does it in a good cop mode, not screaming in their faces like some cops do and he has them breaking down like babies, maybe Putnam County could use Mike!! I totally believe that area is pure Deliverance, right from the trashy trailer parks to the police, my friend said it was a creepy town and she swore she heard them dueling banjos as they drove through and all she saw was people swilling beer at picnic tables or some yahoos working on junk cars and kids everywhere and not near parents either. She saw three little girls about 5 walking down the main road a pedophile's dream is what came to mind. Si while LE spins their wheels, that child is probably decomposing in a ditch or woods or buried and God only knows where. Some of these POS's will wait to bury the body knowing the law will look for disturbed ground, don't forget these pukes network with each other and give advice.
Why isn't George Anthony taking out his "specially equipped" boat out on the St. John's river looking for Haleigh's body. It was only 500 feet to the river from the mobile home. Is he waiting for someone to go missing at the retention pond of his subdivision?
Gator
LOL. I just posted something like that on the Caylee board--George putting his rowboat out on a stagnant lake to look for missing children.
ErrinSpelling
04-27-2009, 06:12 PM
I don't read at IS, but it's been ascertained for some time that Chad has custody of his kids. Not sure what form you speak of. :confused:
Who to blame? How's about the custodial parent and the person he willingly chose to be in charge of his son and his daughter who was stolen. You know, Haleigh.
well they banned all the people or most, who say anything bad about ron,like the truth, but i WAS talking about IS & some form chad;s wife had for order of protection, the ronettes said...if you have children, you fill out a different form.....you can guess they made it out , that he had to stay away from the children....so i have never seen , what you are saying, but am glad you told me!!!!!
oh no, they will not blame ron.
wind149
04-27-2009, 07:57 PM
Why does it not surprise me to IS banned people for speaking their mind about this trash and I am waiting to hear on Jane some hot news that LE has come to the conclusion that this was not a stranger abduction? I have thought all along that it was a SO or wanna be who saw the opportunity and grabbed her, however as much as I think Crystal is a loser too, you would have to be to hook up with Ronface and have kids by him as well, I am leaning toward agreeing with her because she does not believe that a stranger took her, gives credence to her claims and I now am going to stand firm that Misti got rid of her in some fashion, I do not recall whether, what was it the Granny that stopped by earlier that evening or so other kinfolk and Haleigh was alive then but what after they left and maybe Haleigh was acting up again and maybe she clocked the child and killed her, got in the family car and tossed her somewhere that she might know like Casey did and she has been lying through her tooth the entire time, thinking only of herself and what gets me is both of those doors, the screen and the interior both make a lot of noise opening or shutting and we really do not know whether she passed those two polygraphs, we only have her say so.
How I am explaining JR's account, I think that Greg guy was there and that is who he saw, and the couch moving, think they were doing the nasty and Haleigh came out of the bedroom at that moment and after he left something went down where I think she killed Haleigh. Now this is just speculation on my part but my cop friend thinks I might not be off the mark too far on this, without a body and physical evidence and a confession, this little twit might get away with this, it all comes back to Misti no matter how you slice it and like I said if those co-workers are to be believed, these poor kids, not only is Daddy whupping on them, he gives permission to this brain dead teenager to beat his children???? I am really re-thinking her, I am surprised we have not heard that she is knocked up, am now thinking mommy hood was not her bag, but because she feels I guess LOVE for Ronnieface, in the beginning, when she was trying to impress him, don't we all dumb things for love?
Pretend to love his friends even though you think they are a pile of losers? Or you pretend to love his family even though you think they are blithering idiots??? Couple of months being cooped up with two small children would drive me over the edge, so I am thinking that despite the claims from these losers, she is not a good mommy. Here she is 17, living with a violent man, two kids still in that terrible age category where they push your bottoms and your mind. I think it was starting to get to her, she can't party down like she was, can't hang with the gang, instead she is in a crappy trailer park, with two kids 24 hours a day, but ya know she made a choice, no one told her to hook up with that loser, but I am thinking in Deliverance, Ronnie there is a "good catch" Translate: He had a job and apparently has all his own teeth, but I don't think that is really a big priority, seeing as her momma ain't got a tooth in her head and neither does her daddy, for me a job and teeth is a plus, intelligence being at the highest point of my scale, looks really doesn't matter to me, except I don't think I could date someone that is like 400 lbs, I like bigger guys, blonds or redheads turn me on, but at the 200 mark is good, and now Jane is reporting that LE is confirming that they do not think that it is a stranger abduction and Jane is saying the same thing I have said all along, it all comes back to Misti and I think now Misti got rid of her in some fashion, her body language on the Today show spoke volumes to me and that was last month, she could not answer a question without looking at Ron and when asked by Meredeth about the story changes, and she looked like she wanted to jump off the roof of the station, she swallowed hard, looked at him, the floor, and then finally Meredeth and says "I don't know" Mark Klaas came back with the "truth never changes" Put my red flag up even more so than before and now that LE thinks that someone this child knows took her and probably murdered her.
My aunt called me Sunday. She lives in Passaic NJ and a three year old child that lived in the same hood as she does was taken by her beloved uncle presumably to get something to eat, but he made a strange statement to other family members that "they should tune into Channel three in a little while" He raped the girl and then threw her body into a deep river, but her body floated to the bank and my aunt is hearing all of this on the scanner and realizes that girl lives but a block away from her and the uncle apparently is either dead from a suicide or he is in the wind, they found his truck down by the river and Passaic has changed so much since I lived there in the early 60's. It was an Italian and Irish city, summer days you could hear "Old Blue Eyes" or Paddy O'Donnell on radios and when I went back after 40 years in 07, it is now pretty much Spanish and the crime wave is very high, murders happen every day there now and my aunt has no less than 4 locks on her doors, panic bars on her windows as she has been ripped off at least three times in the last years and she hates living where she does, but it is all she can afford and she has lived there for 19 years after selling her big house after my uncle passed and she has lived there all of her 85 years! The uncle is from the Dominican Republic and they are on alert if he tries to go home, but he could easily be hiding out, Passiac is a big city. My point is this. Most children are harmed by their own family members more so than strangers, but what gave me pause is, the SO's living in that area and that is why I was thinking early on it was probably a SO who watched the family, maybe peeked in the window to see the layout of the home, Couey staked out the Lunsford home, that is how he knew which bedroom was Jessie's, but now I am really focusing on Misti and LE needs to get her in a room and hammer at her for hours, I am thinking that if they think it was not a stranger, then they have to be thinking MISTI!
Native Alien
04-27-2009, 08:51 PM
http://www.artharris.com/2009/04/27/exclusive-ronald-cummings-tried-to-kill-me/#more-1743
Exclusive: “Ronald Cummings Tried to Kill Me!”
By Art Harris, The Bald Truth, (c)artharris.com, all rights reserved
Just when we think the dysfunctional dynamics in Satsuma, Florida can’t get any stranger among rival clans of missing five year old Haleigh Cummings, Misty Cummings’ father, Hank Croslin, now accuses his new son in law, Ronald, of trying to poison him with painkillers he apparently thought would take away aches from a recent car accident, but made him violently ill instead.
wind149
04-27-2009, 09:24 PM
HUH? WOW! But this asswipe had a choice, he could have gone to a doctor to get pain meds so I am not putting much stock in this, the cops didn't and even the doctors advised he was not in a coma like he claims. If anyone wants to know what he looks like, you can see him at the nuptials, he's the yahoo with no teeth, heavy set with crutches giving the blushing bride away in that cheap tawdry wedding setting!!! I think this is going to get much worse as far as them all turning on each other, I am waiting for the Ants to do the same. I am sorry to hear however. that Crystal suffered another seizure and as much as I think she is not too bright, I am sure that she does love her children and she is not or never has been on my radar screen, Misti is blipping all over it!! And Ronnie is coming in second!!!
I am even more convinced by the hour that brain dead kid got rid of Haleigh in some way and she is not going to come clean unless they really get down with her, in her case, I think getting in her face would do the job, she is not very bright, a little street smart perhaps and I truly think that if they started hammering her that she would fold. Such as? Tell her that if she cops to where the child is, dead or alive, that it would go easier on her and I don't mean a walk, I mean that if she cops, that the DA would probably take into consideration that she is probably near retarded level on the scale and not seek the DP if she murdered the child. This needs to end yesterday, but she is only thinking of herself and the world of s*it that she will be in. But I don't think Putnam CO is much of a SD. Two inmates escaped from their jail in broad daylight and I wonder if they had/has ever conducted a missing child case before and not the one where a kid goes missing for two hours, I mean one that seems to have vanished off the planet and the worse part about FL is how easy it is to hide a body, it could become gator bait, the swamp grass down there could hide a 767 and if she was put in water, marine life would reek havoc. So I just wish that stupid twit would just end this and admit what she did and I am saying that with total conviction.
Native Alien
04-27-2009, 10:04 PM
Okay okay-I know i am not here a whole lot but this just reeks of insanity-no Dr. is going to put someone in a drug induced coma due to aspirating. Good gawd. And he claims he reacted like that after one pill that he asked for and readily accepted. If he was violently ill that does not sound like anaphalactic. I would be more inclined to ask what else was in his system. Not to say the drug may just not have agreed with him-I dont buy it. And did he sign for Misty to marry the guy????
Depending on the reaction that he had they might have put him in a drug induced coma, but the reaction would have had to have been really severe.
No he didn't sign for Misti to marry Ron, her mother did.
DrewBerry
04-27-2009, 10:10 PM
HUH? WOW! But this asswipe had a choice, he could have gone to a doctor to get pain meds so I am not putting much stock in this, the cops didn't and even the doctors advised he was not in a coma like he claims. If anyone wants to know what he looks like, you can see him at the nuptials, he's the yahoo with no teeth, heavy set with crutches giving the blushing bride away in that cheap tawdry wedding setting!!! I think this is going to get much worse as far as them all turning on each other, I am waiting for the Ants to do the same. I am sorry to hear however. that Crystal suffered another seizure and as much as I think she is not too bright, I am sure that she does love her children and she is not or never has been on my radar screen, Misti is blipping all over it!! And Ronnie is coming in second!!!
I am even more convinced by the hour that brain dead kid got rid of Haleigh in some way and she is not going to come clean unless they really get down with her, in her case, I think getting in her face would do the job, she is not very bright, a little street smart perhaps and I truly think that if they started hammering her that she would fold. Such as? Tell her that if she cops to where the child is, dead or alive, that it would go easier on her and I don't mean a walk, I mean that if she cops, that the DA would probably take into consideration that she is probably near retarded level on the scale and not seek the DP if she murdered the child. This needs to end yesterday, but she is only thinking of herself and the world of s*it that she will be in. But I don't think Putnam CO is much of a SD. Two inmates escaped from their jail in broad daylight and I wonder if they had/has ever conducted a missing child case before and not the one where a kid goes missing for two hours, I mean one that seems to have vanished off the planet and the worse part about FL is how easy it is to hide a body, it could become gator bait, the swamp grass down there could hide a 767 and if she was put in water, marine life would reek havoc. So I just wish that stupid twit would just end this and admit what she did and I am saying that with total conviction.
Hi Wind! How are ya? As usual, I agree with your take on Misty and Ronnie. Those 2 are dumber than a box of rocks and I'd bet my last dollar that they consistently abused those kids; especially little Haleigh. CPS needs to be all over these 2 twits. I'm sure poor little Haleigh is gone for good. Another tragic ending. :flamemad:
DrewB
DrewBerry
04-27-2009, 10:18 PM
Poor Haleigh.
This info doesn't surprise me in the least. I agree with you Loretta. That poor little girl didn't have a chance living with those 2 idiots. I'm sure she's gone for good. LE has to sit Mrs. Ronnie down in a room and not let her out until she spills the truth. Is Jr. in foster care or what? CPS better be all over these people. :cuss:
Drew B
Native Alien
04-28-2009, 12:47 AM
If you want my honest opinion, this whole case has just gone right down the tubes and unless someone fesses up, any chance of finding Haleigh is slim to none as it stands right now.
RaVeN71806
04-28-2009, 09:14 AM
yes and misty isn't sounding like mother of the year , stepmother of the year,or babysitter of the year, either as she portrayed herself to be 24/7, ....
ooh don't forget also shi*ty liar of the year.. ;)
deacon
04-28-2009, 10:30 AM
ooh don't forget also shi*ty liar of the year.. ;)
I really, really hate to say this but I think Haleigh is gone. I was holding out hope she wasn't but I now think she is. One of the big issues now is finding where she was put.:rose: This one hurts too.
lorettalockhorn
04-28-2009, 11:37 AM
http://www.artharris.com/2009/04/27/exclusive-ronald-cummings-tried-to-kill-me/#more-1743
Exclusive: “Ronald Cummings Tried to Kill Me!”
By Art Harris, The Bald Truth, (c)artharris.com, all rights reserved
Just when we think the dysfunctional dynamics in Satsuma, Florida can’t get any stranger among rival clans of missing five year old Haleigh Cummings, Misty Cummings’ father, Hank Croslin, now accuses his new son in law, Ronald, of trying to poison him with painkillers he apparently thought would take away aches from a recent car accident, but made him violently ill instead.
“On the surface, it appears illegal, but didn’t rise to the level to make a case,” a major told me. “No money changed hands.”
WTF?
893.13 Prohibited acts; penalties.--
(1)(a) Except as authorized by this chapter and chapter 499, it is unlawful for any person to sell, manufacture, or deliver, or possess with intent to sell, manufacture, or deliver, a controlled substance...
http://www.leg.state.fl.us/statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&URL=Ch0893/SEC13.HTM
Doesn't seem that any money needs to change hands for delivery to have been completed. Does LE diaper Ronny too? How many breaks are these sleazebags going to get? It's just amazing to me that this bunch of crackheads have LE stymied to the point that they cannot or will not keep the public informed about the search for Haleigh.
Really feel for Crystal; this seems to be taking its toll on her health.
ETA: Hankie makes it sound like getting drugs from Cummings is a perfectly normal thing, but he's also breaking the law. Can't imagine what possesses any of these people.
ErrinSpelling
04-28-2009, 01:41 PM
Why does it not surprise me to IS banned people for speaking their mind about this trash and I am waiting to hear on Jane some hot news that LE has come to the conclusion that this was not a stranger abduction? I have thought all along that it was a SO or wanna be who saw the opportunity and grabbed her, however as much as I think Crystal is a loser too, you would have to be to hook up with Ronface and have kids by him as well, I am leaning toward agreeing with her because she does not believe that a stranger took her, gives credence to her claims and I now am going to stand firm that Misti got rid of her in some fashion, I do not recall whether, what was it the Granny that stopped by earlier that evening or so other kinfolk and Haleigh was alive then but what after they left and maybe Haleigh was acting up again and maybe she clocked the child and killed her, got in the family car and tossed her somewhere that she might know like Casey did and she has been lying through her tooth the entire time, thinking only of herself and what gets me is both of those doors, the screen and the interior both make a lot of noise opening or shutting and we really do not know whether she passed those two polygraphs, we only have her say so.
How I am explaining JR's account, I think that Greg guy was there and that is who he saw, and the couch moving, think they were doing the nasty and Haleigh came out of the bedroom at that moment and after he left something went down where I think she killed Haleigh. Now this is just speculation on my part but my cop friend thinks I might not be off the mark too far on this, without a body and physical evidence and a confession, this little twit might get away with this, it all comes back to Misti no matter how you slice it and like I said if those co-workers are to be believed, these poor kids, not only is Daddy whupping on them, he gives permission to this brain dead teenager to beat his children???? I am really re-thinking her, I am surprised we have not heard that she is knocked up, am now thinking mommy hood was not her bag, but because she feels I guess LOVE for Ronnieface, in the beginning, when she was trying to impress him, don't we all dumb things for love?
Pretend to love his friends even though you think they are a pile of losers? Or you pretend to love his family even though you think they are blithering idiots??? Couple of months being cooped up with two small children would drive me over the edge, so I am thinking that despite the claims from these losers, she is not a good mommy. Here she is 17, living with a violent man, two kids still in that terrible age category where they push your bottoms and your mind. I think it was starting to get to her, she can't party down like she was, can't hang with the gang, instead she is in a crappy trailer park, with two kids 24 hours a day, but ya know she made a choice, no one told her to hook up with that loser, but I am thinking in Deliverance, Ronnie there is a "good catch" Translate: He had a job and apparently has all his own teeth, but I don't think that is really a big priority, seeing as her momma ain't got a tooth in her head and neither does her daddy, for me a job and teeth is a plus, intelligence being at the highest point of my scale, looks really doesn't matter to me, except I don't think I could date someone that is like 400 lbs, I like bigger guys, blonds or redheads turn me on, but at the 200 mark is good, and now Jane is reporting that LE is confirming that they do not think that it is a stranger abduction and Jane is saying the same thing I have said all along, it all comes back to Misti and I think now Misti got rid of her in some fashion, her body language on the Today show spoke volumes to me and that was last month, she could not answer a question without looking at Ron and when asked by Meredeth about the story changes, and she looked like she wanted to jump off the roof of the station, she swallowed hard, looked at him, the floor, and then finally Meredeth and says "I don't know" Mark Klaas came back with the "truth never changes" Put my red flag up even more so than before and now that LE thinks that someone this child knows took her and probably murdered her.
My aunt called me Sunday. She lives in Passaic NJ and a three year old child that lived in the same hood as she does was taken by her beloved uncle presumably to get something to eat, but he made a strange statement to other family members that "they should tune into Channel three in a little while" He raped the girl and then threw her body into a deep river, but her body floated to the bank and my aunt is hearing all of this on the scanner and realizes that girl lives but a block away from her and the uncle apparently is either dead from a suicide or he is in the wind, they found his truck down by the river and Passaic has changed so much since I lived there in the early 60's. It was an Italian and Irish city, summer days you could hear "Old Blue Eyes" or Paddy O'Donnell on radios and when I went back after 40 years in 07, it is now pretty much Spanish and the crime wave is very high, murders happen every day there now and my aunt has no less than 4 locks on her doors, panic bars on her windows as she has been ripped off at least three times in the last years and she hates living where she does, but it is all she can afford and she has lived there for 19 years after selling her big house after my uncle passed and she has lived there all of her 85 years! The uncle is from the Dominican Republic and they are on alert if he tries to go home, but he could easily be hiding out, Passiac is a big city. My point is this. Most children are harmed by their own family members more so than strangers, but what gave me pause is, the SO's living in that area and that is why I was thinking early on it was probably a SO who watched the family, maybe peeked in the window to see the layout of the home, Couey staked out the Lunsford home, that is how he knew which bedroom was Jessie's, but now I am really focusing on Misti and LE needs to get her in a room and hammer at her for hours, I am thinking that if they think it was not a stranger, then they have to be thinking MISTI!
really good post wind....i also like how ron is a good catch means: had a job & all of his teeth.
ErrinSpelling
04-28-2009, 01:44 PM
ooh don't forget also shi*ty liar of the year.. ;)
:eek: how COULD i have forgotten ? big fat liar is #1.
ErrinSpelling
04-28-2009, 01:47 PM
“On the surface, it appears illegal, but didn’t rise to the level to make a case,” a major told me. “No money changed hands.”
WTF?
893.13 Prohibited acts; penalties.--
(1)(a) Except as authorized by this chapter and chapter 499, it is unlawful for any person to sell, manufacture, or deliver, or possess with intent to sell, manufacture, or deliver, a controlled substance...
http://www.leg.state.fl.us/statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&URL=Ch0893/SEC13.HTM
Doesn't seem that any money needs to change hands for delivery to have been completed. Does LE diaper Ronny too? How many breaks are these sleazebags going to get? It's just amazing to me that this bunch of crackheads have LE stymied to the point that they cannot or will not keep the public informed about the search for Haleigh.
Really feel for Crystal; this seems to be taking its toll on her health.
ETA: Hankie makes it sound like getting drugs from Cummings is a perfectly normal thing, but he's also breaking the law. Can't imagine what possesses any of these people.
this is yet again very disturbing, that LE apparently don't even know their own laws in satsuma.
ErrinSpelling
04-28-2009, 01:52 PM
http://www.artharris.com/2009/04/27/exclusive-ronald-cummings-tried-to-kill-me/#more-1743
Exclusive: “Ronald Cummings Tried to Kill Me!”
By Art Harris, The Bald Truth, (c)artharris.com, all rights reserved
Just when we think the dysfunctional dynamics in Satsuma, Florida can’t get any stranger among rival clans of missing five year old Haleigh Cummings, Misty Cummings’ father, Hank Croslin, now accuses his new son in law, Ronald, of trying to poison him with painkillers he apparently thought would take away aches from a recent car accident, but made him violently ill instead.
i am at a loss for words...oh the insanity...
post 57 AH says parents saw misty/van pick up haleigh....no one saw TN or ron pick her up, that day.
post 92
TN is a liar...today i finally see that...she says she has been leaving messages for art, but art has left messages for her & no answer.
reminds me of cindy ant.....who said she cancelled oprah..oprah says oprah cancelled cindy.
lorettalockhorn
04-28-2009, 02:03 PM
i am at a loss for words...oh the insanity...
post 57 AH says parents saw misty/van pick up haleigh....no one saw TN or ron pick her up, that day.
post 92
TN is a liar...today i finally see that...she says she has been leaving messages for art, but art has left messages for her & no answer.
reminds me of cindy ant.....who said she cancelled oprah..oprah says oprah cancelled cindy.
Errin, just finished reading all those comments (I feel like I need a shower and a smart pill!). So not only did Cummings and Mother Teresa apparently lie to LE about picking Haleigh up from the bus stop, but she is in their employee (or a judge's employee or something), so why does she still have her job? Isn't that grounds for dismissal?
ErrinSpelling
04-28-2009, 02:13 PM
Errin, just finished reading all those comments (I feel like I need a shower and a smart pill!). So not only did Cummings and Mother Teresa apparently lie to LE about picking Haleigh up from the bus stop, but she is in their employee (or a judge's employee or something), so why does she still have her job? Isn't that grounds for dismissal?
:D oh me too..i need many smart pills & spelling pills.
only in the real world, not there.
Native Alien
04-28-2009, 02:52 PM
Errin, just finished reading all those comments (I feel like I need a shower and a smart pill!). So not only did Cummings and Mother Teresa apparently lie to LE about picking Haleigh up from the bus stop, but she is in their employee (or a judge's employee or something), so why does she still have her job? Isn't that grounds for dismissal?
She doesn't work for Putnam County would be my only guess. She works for Alachu County as a dispatcher. At least that is how I think that you spell it. It is the next county over.
lorettalockhorn
04-28-2009, 03:04 PM
She doesn't work for Putnam County would be my only guess. She works for Alachu County as a dispatcher. At least that is how I think that you spell it. It is the next county over.
So a member of LE can lie in an investigation in another jurisdiction and keep a job?
Good to know. :rolleyes:
wind149
04-28-2009, 04:27 PM
Granny is a DISPATCHER?? God help Florida!! This woman can't string two sentences together without using bad grammar so I can just guess that radio protocol is not the same as I was used to, probably it goes like this. "Hey Bubba, I need you to be fixing to go to Route 33 by Old Man Clinton's house, Billy Ray done cracked up his ole Ford, naw, he ain't hurt none, I think he was hitting the shine" Not what I would say. I would be, "Dispatch to 103, I need you to start sliding towards Route 33 by the Clinton residence, for a single vehicle 10-50 with no PI (personal injury) possible 10-55 (drunk driver) "103 to dispatch, "10-4 10-76 to Route 33 for the 10-50" I am thinking that part of FL is pretty bassackwards, their police dept's apparently do not care they hired an idiot hillbilly to be a dispatcher, I am dying to hear her on the radio but unless I go there, I won't be able to.
And yeah, Haleigh is dead, I can feel it just like I did with Caylee and Brooke Bennett. I knew the minute her Uncle Fester was reported to be a CSO, and he was with her on the night she went missing, that this girl was dead and sadly, I was right. I think now for sure that Misti killed her, apparently mommyhood is not what she wanted to do, but she either is too dumb to say so, or she really loves that piece of trash and is deathly afraid to tell him anything, especially if she killed Haleigh, can you dig the reaction out of him? He would be beating on her before the cops could have a chance to intervene and on the 911 tape he even says, "How could you let someone steal my child you dumb b*tch? He thinks she is a dumb b*tch,. but yet trusts this half retard to take care of two small children?? Misti's story changes, her attitude on the Today show makes me really think she murdered that child because she did not want her around and I really think if police would really get down on her ass, then they might find out where Haleigh's remains are.
Granny is a DISPATCHER?? God help Florida!! This woman can't string two sentences together without using bad grammar so I can just guess that radio protocol is not the same as I was used to, probably it goes like this. "Hey Bubba, I need you to be fixing to go to Route 33 by Old Man Clinton's house, Billy Ray done cracked up his ole Ford, naw, he ain't hurt none, I think he was hitting the shine" Not what I would say. I would be, "Dispatch to 103, I need you to start sliding towards Route 33 by the Clinton residence, for a single vehicle 10-50 with no PI (personal injury) possible 10-55 (drunk driver) "103 to dispatch, "10-4 10-76 to Route 33 for the 10-50" I am thinking that part of FL is pretty bassackwards, their police dept's apparently do not care they hired an idiot hillbilly to be a dispatcher, I am dying to hear her on the radio but unless I go there, I won't be able to.
And yeah, Haleigh is dead, I can feel it just like I did with Caylee and Brooke Bennett. I knew the minute her Uncle Fester was reported to be a CSO, and he was with her on the night she went missing, that this girl was dead and sadly, I was right. I think now for sure that Misti killed her, apparently mommyhood is not what she wanted to do, but she either is too dumb to say so, or she really loves that piece of trash and is deathly afraid to tell him anything, especially if she killed Haleigh, can you dig the reaction out of him? He would be beating on her before the cops could have a chance to intervene and on the 911 tape he even says, "How could you let someone steal my child you dumb b*tch? He thinks she is a dumb b*tch,. but yet trusts this half retard to take care of two small children?? Misti's story changes, her attitude on the Today show makes me really think she murdered that child because she did not want her around and I really think if police would really get down on her ass, then they might find out where Haleigh's remains are.
Love your dispatch renditions!!! I can just hear the hillbilly ones!!
After reading about the call to Ron about Haleigh not going to bed, if it is true my take would be that Misti took the whip the brat to heart and whipped her--until she died. Maybe whipping her about the head with something other than her hand. Only, don't know where Jr would have been that he wouldn't have @ least heard the whipping going on--I would think that he would be talking about crying and yelling and such and not squeaky shoes and bouncing couches.
But, whatever went on, I also believe that after all this time, no matter what scenario we speculate about (Misti and/or Ron and whippings, po'd drug dealers, skanky SO's) poor Haleigh is dead, and probably has been since the early morning hours of Feb 10, 2009.
JLette
04-28-2009, 07:05 PM
Love your dispatch renditions!!! I can just hear the hillbilly ones!!
After reading about the call to Ron about Haleigh not going to bed, if it is true my take would be that Misti took the whip the brat to heart and whipped her--until she died. Maybe whipping her about the head with something other than her hand. Only, don't know where Jr would have been that he wouldn't have @ least heard the whipping going on--I would think that he would be talking about crying and yelling and such and not squeaky shoes and bouncing couches.
But, whatever went on, I also believe that after all this time, no matter what scenario we speculate about (Misti and/or Ron and whippings, po'd drug dealers, skanky SO's) poor Haleigh is dead, and probably has been since the early morning hours of Feb 10, 2009.
maybe the squeaky bouncing couch noised that Jr. heard was Misti's skinny butt trying to smother or strangle Haliegh on the couch in the living room. :shrug: perhaps whipping the brat wasn't satisfying enough and so she started choking her, or maybe wrapped her in a bed sheet and suffocated her, anything is possible with this trailer trash no goods
DrewBerry
04-28-2009, 11:00 PM
Granny is a DISPATCHER?? God help Florida!! This woman can't string two sentences together without using bad grammar so I can just guess that radio protocol is not the same as I was used to, probably it goes like this. "Hey Bubba, I need you to be fixing to go to Route 33 by Old Man Clinton's house, Billy Ray done cracked up his ole Ford, naw, he ain't hurt none, I think he was hitting the shine" Not what I would say. I would be, "Dispatch to 103, I need you to start sliding towards Route 33 by the Clinton residence, for a single vehicle 10-50 with no PI (personal injury) possible 10-55 (drunk driver) "103 to dispatch, "10-4 10-76 to Route 33 for the 10-50" I am thinking that part of FL is pretty bassackwards, their police dept's apparently do not care they hired an idiot hillbilly to be a dispatcher, I am dying to hear her on the radio but unless I go there, I won't be able to.
And yeah, Haleigh is dead, I can feel it just like I did with Caylee and Brooke Bennett. I knew the minute her Uncle Fester was reported to be a CSO, and he was with her on the night she went missing, that this girl was dead and sadly, I was right. I think now for sure that Misti killed her, apparently mommyhood is not what she wanted to do, but she either is too dumb to say so, or she really loves that piece of trash and is deathly afraid to tell him anything, especially if she killed Haleigh, can you dig the reaction out of him? He would be beating on her before the cops could have a chance to intervene and on the 911 tape he even says, "How could you let someone steal my child you dumb b*tch? He thinks she is a dumb b*tch,. but yet trusts this half retard to take care of two small children?? Misti's story changes, her attitude on the Today show makes me really think she murdered that child because she did not want her around and I really think if police would really get down on her ass, then they might find out where Haleigh's remains are.
Wind, I think you've got it right. Ronnie and Misti abused those kids and their stories about "disciplining the children according to Child & Family Services recommendations---that spanking was OK" (also a bunch of BS). And, WTF was the big hurry to get married? These 2 are sleezy and they're lying to cover their own asses. The new little 17 yr. old bride needs to LE to get down on her as (to use your words!). This s**t needs to end and bring little Haleigh's remains home. :flamemad:
DrewB
Native Alien
04-28-2009, 11:47 PM
Exclusive: Haleigh Could Be Alive—-Top Cop
http://www.artharris.com/2009/04/28/exclusive-haleigh-could-be-alive-top-cop/#more-1755
In an exclusive,wide-ranging interview, the lead investigator in the Haleigh Cummings case tells the The Bald Truth he’s holding out hope the missing five year old could be alive.
“I didn’t think so for a long time, based on statistics for these kinds of missing children cases,” Captain Dominic Piscatello, chief of major crimes for the Putnam County Sheriff’s Department, told me Monday. “But now, based on what we’ve learned, I’m holding out hope. You remember (Elizabeth) Smart (the kidnapped Utah girl who turned up safe years later). Everyone had written her off as dead. We’re not ready to write off Haleigh.”
JLette
04-28-2009, 11:58 PM
Exclusive: Haleigh Could Be Alive—-Top Cop
http://www.artharris.com/2009/04/28/exclusive-haleigh-could-be-alive-top-cop/#more-1755
In an exclusive,wide-ranging interview, the lead investigator in the Haleigh Cummings case tells the The Bald Truth he’s holding out hope the missing five year old could be alive.
“I didn’t think so for a long time, based on statistics for these kinds of missing children cases,” Captain Dominic Piscatello, chief of major crimes for the Putnam County Sheriff’s Department, told me Monday. “But now, based on what we’ve learned, I’m holding out hope. You remember (Elizabeth) Smart (the kidnapped Utah girl who turned up safe years later). Everyone had written her off as dead. We’re not ready to write off Haleigh.”
this is good to hear, i don't think ANY missing child should be written off as dead unless there is CONCRETE EVIDENCE that it is so, just for the fact that sometimes they are still out there somewhere, and if people just decide they have been gone too long and are "probably" dead then it makes it harder to ever find them if they ARE actually alive and out there
lorettalockhorn
04-29-2009, 12:31 AM
Exclusive: Haleigh Could Be Alive—-Top Cop
http://www.artharris.com/2009/04/28/exclusive-haleigh-could-be-alive-top-cop/#more-1755
In an exclusive,wide-ranging interview, the lead investigator in the Haleigh Cummings case tells the The Bald Truth he’s holding out hope the missing five year old could be alive.
“I didn’t think so for a long time, based on statistics for these kinds of missing children cases,” Captain Dominic Piscatello, chief of major crimes for the Putnam County Sheriff’s Department, told me Monday. “But now, based on what we’ve learned, I’m holding out hope. You remember (Elizabeth) Smart (the kidnapped Utah girl who turned up safe years later). Everyone had written her off as dead. We’re not ready to write off Haleigh.”
Oh. My. God. What a bunch of yahoos.
I should be content that if a top cop can believe that Haleigh is alive, then so should I be able to. But I can't imagine that any of these idiot players could keep Haleigh healthy, let alone alive for this long.
Native Alien
04-29-2009, 12:46 AM
In that whole article the thing that I would have to say that bothered me the most is the lead investigator on this case saying after nearly three months that they are waiting on "that one tip".
What about all the evidence? What about what they have seen from this group of "yahoos" as Loretta calls them? What more proof do they need to haul Ron and Misti's butts into custody and sweat them a while. Play them off one against the other.
ErrinSpelling
04-29-2009, 01:02 AM
Exclusive: Haleigh Could Be Alive—-Top Cop
http://www.artharris.com/2009/04/28/exclusive-haleigh-could-be-alive-top-cop/#more-1755
In an exclusive,wide-ranging interview, the lead investigator in the Haleigh Cummings case tells the The Bald Truth he’s holding out hope the missing five year old could be alive.
“I didn’t think so for a long time, based on statistics for these kinds of missing children cases,” Captain Dominic Piscatello, chief of major crimes for the Putnam County Sheriff’s Department, told me Monday. “But now, based on what we’ve learned, I’m holding out hope. You remember (Elizabeth) Smart (the kidnapped Utah girl who turned up safe years later). Everyone had written her off as dead. We’re not ready to write off Haleigh.”
notice nay nay has a baby with a 47 year old man.i think he has an arrest in 2006 for driving w/o a license.jmo
in my book, that makes 4 very bad drivers.:read:
ErrinSpelling
04-29-2009, 01:08 AM
In that whole article the thing that I would have to say that bothered me the most is the lead investigator on this case saying after nearly three months that they are waiting on "that one tip".
What about all the evidence? What about what they have seen from this group of "yahoos" as Loretta calls them? What more proof do they need to haul Ron and Misti's butts into custody and sweat them a while. Play them off one against the other.
and that makes me wonder, well what kind of yahoos, DO THEY HAVE IN JAIL,?serial killers?, b/c these people are commiting crimes 18 hours a day & maybe even when they sleep?
Native Alien
04-29-2009, 01:25 AM
and that makes me wonder, well what kind of yahoos, DO THEY HAVE IN JAIL,?serial killers?, b/c these people are commiting crimes 18 hours a day & maybe even when they sleep?
It does make ya wonder doesn't it?
I mean we have a man committing statutory rape, dispensing drugs without a license, endangering a child and supplying a minor with tobacco products.
We have a minor female, using tobacco products, endangering children, and goodness knows what else.
Exclusive: Haleigh Could Be Alive—-Top Cop
http://www.artharris.com/2009/04/28/exclusive-haleigh-could-be-alive-top-cop/#more-1755
In an exclusive,wide-ranging interview, the lead investigator in the Haleigh Cummings case tells the The Bald Truth he’s holding out hope the missing five year old could be alive.
“I didn’t think so for a long time, based on statistics for these kinds of missing children cases,” Captain Dominic Piscatello, chief of major crimes for the Putnam County Sheriff’s Department, told me Monday. “But now, based on what we’ve learned, I’m holding out hope. You remember (Elizabeth) Smart (the kidnapped Utah girl who turned up safe years later). Everyone had written her off as dead. We’re not ready to write off Haleigh.”
It wasn't years, but 9 long months for her family. Probably felt like years, tho.;)
Native Alien
04-29-2009, 10:42 AM
It wasn't years, but 9 long months for her family. Probably felt like years, tho.;)
Another thing that I questioned about the statements that this so called lead detective was making....he originally said Pamela Smart, ( the teacher that is doing time for conspiring with one of her students for killing her husband0, and the length of time that Smart girl was missing.
If this is the bed that Putnam County has to offer, he can't manage to keep his facts straight, then Haleigh will never be found.
ErrinSpelling
04-29-2009, 11:20 AM
It does make ya wonder doesn't it?
I mean we have a man committing statutory rape, dispensing drugs without a license, endangering a child and supplying a minor with tobacco products.
We have a minor female, using tobacco products, endangering children, and goodness knows what else.
exactly what i meant & the endangering children could go on for 2 pages by itself, drugs, going to sleep, when oddlers are awake walking around,driving w/o a license,e coli......
lorettalockhorn
04-29-2009, 11:32 AM
I like reading Art Harris, mainly because he's about the only game in town when it comes to Haleigh news, and let's face it, if this soap opera wasn't going on, we'd never hear anything to remind us about this girl. Is that what LE wants? For us to forget? Sometimes I wonder, because it's hard to believe that they can't get more information from the star of this drama.
That said, I have trouble understanding AH's use of pronouns sometimes, and wonder exactly what her means or who he's talking about. I find it hard to believe that he is actually an award winning journalist, but hey my jerkwater town newspaper wins awards too. I could barely makes heads or tails of the story about Hankie's attempted murder rant at Cummings. (And I think a lot of the comments at The Bald Truth must be from locals; they seem drug induced.)
So Misty has an attorney after all this time. We don't have any indication that she has been requested to show up for anymore interviews with LE. Cannot wait to find out who the ambulance chaser is! Sure wish someone would talk her into (or order her) to have a sit down with a forensic psychiatrist to try to put together a timeline for this crime.
Nay Nay sounds like a trainwreck, and again I wonder what kind of valid information she can possibly give LE considering her condition. Why sweat her in jail when they could be doing the same to someone directly involved? No charges for the attempted child abduction? Not even endangering the welfare of a minor? And if she thinks she's going to die in jail, why didn't she have herself committed?
This whole county sounds like a bunch of idiots, sub-elementals, crooks, crunksters, pedophiles, lechers, etc.
lorettalockhorn
04-29-2009, 11:35 AM
exactly what i meant & the endangering children could go on for 2 pages by itself, drugs, going to sleep, when oddlers are awake walking around,driving w/o a license,e coli......
You know, I am so curious about that E coli issue. Were there any other cases reported at the time? Anyone else in the family or at Haleigh's school? Or does she have digestive issues that make her more vulnerable?
RaVeN71806
04-29-2009, 01:26 PM
I really, really hate to say this but I think Haleigh is gone. I was holding out hope she wasn't but I now think she is. One of the big issues now is finding where she was put.:rose: This one hurts too.
yeah sadly enough deacon I feel the same way you do :(..my heart is truly broken over Haleigh :rose:
deacon
04-29-2009, 01:27 PM
You know, I am so curious about that E coli issue. Were there any other cases reported at the time? Anyone else in the family or at Haleigh's school? Or does she have digestive issues that make her more vulnerable?
E coli, could it have been the peanut butter? There has been a couple of problems with the plant in Georgia in the last year or so with E coli and peanut products from that plant.:shrug:
deacon
04-29-2009, 01:30 PM
yeah sadly enough deacon I feel the same way you do :(..my heart is truly broken over Haleigh :rose:
I am about to the "grandpa" age and these seem to hurt me more each time. "Son, are you paying attention? I would not hesitate to kick your rump if you EVER put one of my grandchildren in harms way like these idiots have done."
JLette
04-29-2009, 01:42 PM
E coli, could it have been the peanut butter? There has been a couple of problems with the plant in Georgia in the last year or so with E coli and peanut products from that plant.:shrug:
i think that was salmonella wasn't it?
deacon
04-29-2009, 02:03 PM
i think that was salmonella wasn't it?
Ops, you are correct. I worked all night last night and my mind isn't awake yet although my body is.:D
JLette
04-29-2009, 03:18 PM
Ops, you are correct. I worked all night last night and my mind isn't awake yet although my body is.:D
haha i hear ya, only reason i remembered was i am a peanut and peanut butter lover and when that was going on i was going without lol.
but back to the e coli, why was that never looked into further? doesn't e coli come from eating tainted beef or something? and if she had it then did anyone else in the home have it also?
lorettalockhorn
04-29-2009, 03:31 PM
haha i hear ya, only reason i remembered was i am a peanut and peanut butter lover and when that was going on i was going without lol.
but back to the e coli, why was that never looked into further? doesn't e coli come from eating tainted beef or something? and if she had it then did anyone else in the home have it also?
E coli exists naturally in our digestive tract from what I remember. What I've been asking about is whether or not there was some sort of outbreak at the school, if anyone else in the family was troubled at the same time that Haleigh saw the doc, or if Turner's Syndrome causes her to be more susceptible to a flourishing. She wasn't hospitalized, so I guess her bout wasn't serious, but don't most families and school children eat the same meals?
JLette
04-29-2009, 03:34 PM
E coli exists naturally in our digestive tract from what I remember. What I've been asking about is whether or not there was some sort of outbreak at the school, if anyone else in the family was troubled at the same time that Haleigh saw the doc, or if Turner's Syndrome causes her to be more susceptible to a flourishing. She wasn't hospitalized, so I guess her bout wasn't serious, but don't most families and school children eat the same meals?
usually they do, at least i always did and my son does, i just don't know what to make of half the information in this case
deacon
04-29-2009, 04:02 PM
usually they do, at least i always did and my son does, i just don't know what to make of half the information in this case
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Escherichia_coli
lorettalockhorn
04-29-2009, 04:29 PM
What I have wondered since we read about the E coli incident is Is it possible that Haleigh was purposely infected? Misty told LE that she and Haleigh had walked the same trail that the bloodhounds followed toward the river. Did she get Haleigh to drink from standing water or agricultural run off at some point before the incident or make her a special milkshake using contaminated water?
(Not sure anything would surprise me. Appall yes, surprise, no.)
JLette
04-29-2009, 04:34 PM
What I have wondered since we read about the E coli incident is Is it possible that Haleigh was purposely infected? Misty told LE that she and Haleigh had walked the same trail that the bloodhounds followed toward the river. Did she get Haleigh to drink from standing water or agricultural run off at some point before the incident or make her a special milkshake using contaminated water?
(Not sure anything would surprise me. Appall yes, surprise, no.)
i had thoughts in this same vein but then i thought to myself, isn't that giving Misty more credit than she deserves? i mean......would any of them ever actually think of something like that? and if they DID purposely infect her what was the point of taking her to the doctor?
lorettalockhorn
04-29-2009, 04:52 PM
i had thoughts in this same vein but then i thought to myself, isn't that giving Misty more credit than she deserves? i mean......would any of them ever actually think of something like that? and if they DID purposely infect her what was the point of taking her to the doctor?
Well, you and I think an awful lot alike (especially considering Misty's brainpower!). For one, Cummings nor Mother Teresa (can't remember who actually took Haleigh to the ER) may not or would not have known what was up, so of course if her symptoms were bad enough they would have her see the doctor. OR if there was really a nefarious plan to get rid of Haleigh, maybe whoever was responsible thought that because of her overall health condition, she wouldn't survive the bout of extreme gastroenteritis. And of course, to take her to the doctor/hospital/ER always looks like the right thing to do no matter what.
Believe me, it has occurred to me that Haleigh might not be as valuable to Ron as Junior for example. I mean she's only a girl, and she can't have a litter of children beginning before she's even emancipated. And something tells me that Misty would never consider the child of another woman to be anything other than an unpleasant reminder that her man is a manwh0re.
lighthousedazy
04-30-2009, 12:14 AM
What I have wondered since we read about the E coli incident is Is it possible that Haleigh was purposely infected? Misty told LE that she and Haleigh had walked the same trail that the bloodhounds followed toward the river. Did she get Haleigh to drink from standing water or agricultural run off at some point before the incident or make her a special milkshake using contaminated water?
(Not sure anything would surprise me. Appall yes, surprise, no.)I just don't believe Misti was that smart. I think she (with her limited education and I know kids this age could care less about watching news or edu tv) has probably never heard about e-coli. jmo She probably is so stupid that she doesn't know to discard meat in the fridge after 3 days. Just my opine.
lorettalockhorn
04-30-2009, 12:37 AM
I just don't believe Misti was that smart. I think she (with her limited education and I know kids this age could care less about watching news or edu tv) has probably never heard about e-coli. jmo She probably is so stupid that she doesn't know to discard meat in the fridge after 3 days. Just my opine.
For sure, Misty was probably fighting with Haleigh and Junior about which Disney video to watch! Now, if I wanted to learn about feral swine and all their threats, including E coli contamination, I'd probably watch Pig Bomb on Discovery Channel, but folks around Satsuma probably know all about that without turning on the tube.
DrewBerry
04-30-2009, 01:14 AM
I like reading Art Harris, mainly because he's about the only game in town when it comes to Haleigh news, and let's face it, if this soap opera wasn't going on, we'd never hear anything to remind us about this girl. Is that what LE wants? For us to forget? Sometimes I wonder, because it's hard to believe that they can't get more information from the star of this drama.
That said, I have trouble understanding AH's use of pronouns sometimes, and wonder exactly what her means or who he's talking about. I find it hard to believe that he is actually an award winning journalist, but hey my jerkwater town newspaper wins awards too. I could barely makes heads or tails of the story about Hankie's attempted murder rant at Cummings. (And I think a lot of the comments at The Bald Truth must be from locals; they seem drug induced.)
So Misty has an attorney after all this time. We don't have any indication that she has been requested to show up for anymore interviews with LE. Cannot wait to find out who the ambulance chaser is! Sure wish someone would talk her into (or order her) to have a sit down with a forensic psychiatrist to try to put together a timeline for this crime.
Nay Nay sounds like a trainwreck, and again I wonder what kind of valid information she can possibly give LE considering her condition. Why sweat her in jail when they could be doing the same to someone directly involved? No charges for the attempted child abduction? Not even endangering the welfare of a minor? And if she thinks she's going to die in jail, why didn't she have herself committed?
This whole county sounds like a bunch of idiots, sub-elementals, crooks, crunksters, pedophiles, lechers, etc.
You're spot on, Loretta.The town is full of rapists and pedophiles and I might add that the LE's competency is very questionable. WTF is with Florida anyway? :shrug:
DrewB
lighthousedazy
04-30-2009, 01:42 AM
You're spot on, Loretta.The town is full of rapists and pedophiles and I might add that the LE's competency is very questionable. WTF is with Florida anyway? :shrug:
DrewBI would like to know that too. I have heard some Florida folks say that DFACs leaves a lot to be desired in FL. I hope I am wrong. I know that in Georgia these case workers have to have a BS degree and are in debt for these college loans and are working their tails off and getting furloughed and they are desperately trying to help these unfortunate kids., It is so sad. Where are our priorities? :rose:
lorettalockhorn
04-30-2009, 03:00 AM
No arrests, suspects in Haleigh's disappearance
No arrests have been made in the disappearance of Haleigh Cummings and none are anticipated, a Putnam County Sheriff's Office spokesman said Tuesday.
The 5-year-old, blond-haired kindergartner was reported missing from her Satsuma home Feb. 10, prompting a massive search of South Putnam and an intensive criminal investigation involving local, state and federal agencies.
No suspects in the girl's disappearance have been identified by detectives, said Johnny Green-wood, a sheriff's lieutenant who serves as a spokesman for the department.
Speculation that an arrest had been made swept the community Tuesday.
Telephone calls from Haleigh's relatives, curious residents and the news media flooded the sheriff's office Tuesday afternoon, Greenwood said.
The trigger appeared to be a report from an Ocala radio station that linked a drug suspect's return to jail to the Haleigh case.
"They are unrelated," Greenwood said. "It's not linked to the Haleigh Cummings case."
The subject of the radio station's report was 18-year-old Kristina Renee Prevatt, who was arrested on a cocaine charge April 20 and bonded out of jail about 10 hours later by William Staubs, a bounty hunter and private investigator who says he is working on the Haleigh case.
Staubs returned Prevatt to jail Tuesday afternoon and invited T. J. Hart, program director of WSKY in Ocala, to come along.
Hart did a live broadcast from outside the county jail in Palatka reporting "a person of interest" was being "brought in."
Interviewed by telephone later, Hart said Prevatt "has been cited as a person of interest to the case by some people" he said were "other investigators."
Hart said he was specific with his report.
"We never used the word arrest," he said.
The report sparked a flurry of activity at the sheriff's office, Greenwood said.
"We've had all kinds of people calling down here," Greenwood said. "As soon as they made that comment, it just got crazy."
Staubs also bonded out 20-year-old Amber Brooks, who was arrested the same day as Prevatt on similar charges.
Hart said Staubs' efforts were made to help solve Haleigh's disappearance.
"He thought if he showed some mind of compassion and kindness he could get some information out of them," Hart said.
Staubs, 51, who calls himself "Cobra," has been accused of illegally detaining a Putnam County man who was free on bail on a sex abuse charge.
Last month, deputies say Staubs apprehended and handcuffed William Snodgrass, 55, who in 2007 was charged with capital sexual battery of a 9-year-old girl. Snodgrass was held for an hour, deputies added.
The allegation is being reviewed by local prosecutors.
Snodgrass is free on bail and under electronic supervision until his trial this summer.
Nearly 4,000 leads have been forwarded to investigators since Haleigh vanished, authorities say.
Misty Cummings told authorities she last saw Haleigh about 10 p.m. on Feb. 9 and the child's bed was empty when she awoke the next day about 3 a.m. At the time, she was dating Haleigh's father, Ronald. They have since married.
Both Ronald and Misty Cummings have been questioned repeatedly by investigators.
Recently, a high-ranking sheriff's official said detectives were unsatisfied with answers provided by Misty and declined to rule her out as a suspect.
http://palatkadailynews.com/articles/2009/04/29/news/news01.txt
lorettalockhorn
04-30-2009, 03:58 AM
From the Putnam County criminal docket:
Details:
UCN: 542008MM003940XXAXMX
File Date: 2008-10-06 Judge: PETER T MILLER
Defense Atty:
Defendant
BROOKS, LISA ANN
Alias
Date # Docket Description
2008-10-06 1 COMPLAINT FILED: PCSO/ 09-25-08
2008-10-06 1 BOOKING NUMBER: N/A
2008-10-06 1 BATTERY/ MISTY CROSLIN
2009-03-24 2 ANNOUNCEMENT OF NO INFORMATION TO ALL CTS
Details:
UCN: 542008MM003940XXAXMX
File Date: 2008-10-06 Judge: PETER T MILLER
Defense Atty:
Defendant
BROOKS, LISA ANN
Alias
Date # Docket Description
2008-10-06 1 COMPLAINT FILED: PCSO/ 09-25-08
2008-10-06 1 BOOKING NUMBER: N/A
2008-10-06 1 BATTERY/ MISTY CROSLIN
2009-03-24 2 ANNOUNCEMENT OF NO INFORMATION TO ALL CTS
Battery occurred last fall (then Misty made nasty comments on Amber's myspace about a month later), and the whole thing recently went away. Interesting.
Lisa Brooks' criminal history puts all these other playahs to shame.
lorettalockhorn
04-30-2009, 02:12 PM
Exclusive: Haleigh Cummings–Nay Nay Out of Jail!
The Bald Truth has learned just before 9 p.m. Wednesday, Christina Prevatt, aka Nay Nay, 18, ex- party girl chauffeur for Haleigh Cummings’ stepmother, Misty, was bonded out of the Putnam County Jail, again, on her original cocaine possession charges.
Only this time, it wasn’t bounty hunter Williams Staubs, aka Cobra, but Chuck’s Bail Bonds, according to attorney Kim Picazio, who has been trying to help the suicidal teenager struggling with drug addiction enroll in a rehab program.
She told The Bald Truth that she spoke to the Palatka, Florida outfit that took the gamble on Nay Nay, fresh off suicide watch, and says they declined to tell her who had put up the money for the bit player in the Haleigh Cummings mystery to go free, and likely go wild.
Her last get out of jail free card came from Staubs. Just before Cobra bonded her out Monday morning, task force detectives with the Putnam County Sheriff’s task force on the missing five year old, tell me they were interviewing Prevatt in jail, but learned nothing new.
Detectives hit her up again for information after Cobra put her back behind bars Tuesday for violating terms of her bond, but police sources say nothing new came up.
It was Prevatt who drove Misty on her weekend break with White Boy Greg Page, returning the day before Misty would report Haleigh missing.
“She’s been very cooperative with us,” Lt. Johnny Greenwood, the sheriff’s spokesman told me today. “She’s not a suspect or a person of interest, as some have wrongly reported, just someone who might know someone who knows something.”
Cobra tells me he’d bonded out Prevatt to cruise the Satsuma underbelly, along with Brooks, poking their heads into crack houses to see if they recognized anyone who might jog their memories and shake loose any information. Then he learned she’d tried to snatch her own child from temporary custody of her ex, and was threatening to kill herself, and put her back behind bars, this time on suicide watch.
Sources tell me a doctor ruled she was no longer a danger to herself, so could not be held under the mandatory 72 hour lockdown regulations.
Then Cobra got word Wednesday night, she was back on the street, and headed for the parking lot behind the Palatka Huddle House, where he says he found Prevatt standing by her new main man, a local ex-con named Jerome, out on his own $31,000 bond, records show, courtesy of, you guessed it, Chuck’s Bail Bonds.
“She didn’t look so good,” Cobra told me, who had lead the girl back to jail in tears and handcuffs a day earlier. “In fact, she looked so bad, she looked homesick for jail.”
With tensions mounting as he confronted Jerome, Cobra said he was glad he’d ordered his passengers to wear bullet proof vests; he shoved two pistols in his belt, ready for anything.
Later, I called Jerome. He picked up his cell phone. I asked to speak with Nay Nay.
“You the man who owes her money?” he asked.
“I don’t think so. Why, you think I owe her?”
“I think you owe me money,” he laughed. “Like five million dollars.”
I decided to ask how much he charged for the ladies. Cobra said he was bragging about having Nay Nay and Amber back under his roof.
“Who told you I do that?” he asked.
“That’s the word, Jerome,” I said.
————-
“She didn’t look so good,” Cobra told me. “She looked homesick for jail, like she missed jail already.”
————-
Meet Jerome, fresh out of jail himself earlier this month on a $31,000 bond for assorted charges, including drugs…
UCN: 542009CF000537XXAXMX
File Date: 2009-04-02
Judge: EDWARD E HEDSTROM
Defense Atty:
Defendant
WILLIAMS, JEROME RAYMOND
Alias
WILLIAMS, GEROME R
WILLIAMS, RAYMOND JEROME
Date
#
Docket Description
2009-04-02
1
ARREST REPORT - FHP TRP.VEGA (AR 4/1/09)
2009-04-02
1
BOOKING NUMBER: 09-1322
2009-04-02
1
NO VALID DRIVERS LICENSE
2009-04-02
1
ATTACHING TAG NOT ASSIGNED
2009-04-02
1
POSSESSION OF DRUG PARAPHERNALIA
2009-04-02
1
SALE OF 10 PLUS GRAMS OF CONTROLLED SUBSTANCE
2009-04-02
1
POSSESSION CONTROLLED SUBSTANCE WITHIN 200 FEET PARK
2009-04-02
1
POSSESSION CONTROLLED SUBSTANCE WITHIN 1000 FT.GROCERY
2009-04-02
1
POSSESSION OF LEGEND DRUGS WITHOUT PRESCRIPTION WITH
2009-04-02
1
INTENT TO SELL OXYCONTIN 40 MG
2009-04-02
1
POSSESSION CONTROLLED SUBSTANCE 1000 FEET CHURCH
2009-04-02
1
POSSESSION WITH INTENT TO SELL 1000 FEET SCHOOL
2009-04-02
1
POSSESSION OF LEGEND DRUG WITHOUT PRESCRIPTION WITH
2009-04-02
1
INTENT TO SELL
2009-04-02
1
POSSESSION OF COCAINE
2009-04-02
1
POSSESSION OF COCAINE (CRACK)
2009-04-02
1
POSSESSION WITH INTENT TO SELL LEGEND DRUG WITHOUT
2009-04-02
1
PRESCRIPTION
2009-04-02
2
DEFENDANT PRESENT FOR FIRST APPEARANCE HRG 4/2/09
2009-04-02
2
ADJ INS P D APPOINTED FOR FIRST APPEARANCE ONLY
2009-04-02
2
SUFFICIENT PROBABLE CAUSE FOUND
2009-04-02
2
$ 504.00 SECURED BOND SET CT. I
2009-04-02
2
$ 504.00 SECURED BOND SET CT. II
2009-04-02
2
$ 504.00 SECURED BOND SET CT. III
2009-04-02
2
$5004.00 SECURED BOND SET CT. IV
2009-04-02
2
$5004.00 SECURED BOND SET CT. V
2009-04-02
2
$5004.00 SECURED BOND SET CT. VI
2009-04-02
2
$1004.00 SECURED BOND SET CT. VII
2009-04-02
2
$5004.00 SECURED BOND SET CT. VIII
2009-04-02
2
$5004.00 SECURED BOND SET CT. IX
2009-04-02
2
$1004.00 SECURED BOND SET CT. X
2009-04-02
2
$1004.00 SECURED BOND SET CT. XI
2009-04-02
2
$1004.00 SECURED BOND SET CT. XII
2009-04-02
2
$1004.00 SECURED BOND SET CT. XIII
2009-04-02
3
TRAFFIC CITATION - #1468-SNO X - NO DL
2009-04-02
4
TRAFFIC CITATION - #1467-SNO X - TAG ATTACH
2009-04-02
5
AFFIDAVIT OF INSOLVENCY
2009-04-02
6
ORDER APPOINTING PUBLIC DEFENDER FOR 1ST APP HEARING
2009-04-02
7
$ 504.00 CHUCK’S BAIL BOND POSTED - #00803821 4/2/09
2009-04-02
8
$ 504.00 CHUCK’S BAIL BOND POSTED - #00803820
2009-04-02
9
$ 504.00 CHUCK’S BAIL BOND POSTED - #00803819
2009-04-02
10
$1004.00 CHUCK’S BAIL BOND POSTED - #00803818
2009-04-02
11
$1004.00 CHUCK’S BAIL BOND POSTED - #00803814
2009-04-02
12
$1004.00 CHUCK’S BAIL BOND POSTED - #00803817
2009-04-02
13
$5004.00 CHUCK’S BAIL BOND POSTED - #00805254
2009-04-02
14
$5004.00 CHUCK’S BAIL BOND POSTED - #00805255
2009-04-02
15
$5004.00 CHUCK’S BAIL BOND POSTED - #00805256
2009-04-02
16
$5004.00 CHUCK’S BAIL BOND POSTED - #00805257
2009-04-02
17
$5004.00 CHUCK’S BAIL BOND POSTED - #00795984
2009-04-02
18
$1004.00 CHUCK’S BAIL BOND POSTED - #00803815
2009-04-02
19
$1004.00 CHUCK’S BAIL BOND POSTED - #00803816
2009-04-02
19
CONTINENTAL HERITAGE INSURANCE CO.
http://www.artharris.com/2009/04/30/exclusive-haleigh-cummings-nay-nay-out-of-jail/#more-1809
lorettalockhorn
04-30-2009, 02:24 PM
TJ Hart's last Haleigh update:
http://www.bloggernews.net/120666
FYI: If you google TJ Hart, do not, I repeat DO NOT click on the links unless you have added SKY 97.3 to your query!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
There are several blogs at BNN that cover the Haleigh and Caylee cases and bazillions of comments. Blogger News Network home:
http://www.bloggernews.net/
wind149
04-30-2009, 02:43 PM
I gotta agree, it seems like LE in FL is not on the ball like other states and the whole state has a very large SO population, there is no way in hell I would live there. I wish that Putnam would get right on her ass and not let her leave the station until she comes clean, what are they waiting for? The grand jury indited Casey without a body, surely they can do the same? I love it when they say they think Haleigh is alive? Well why not share with the public why you think this instead of keeping mum? I am sure she is dead and that Misti has all to do with why I think she is dead because Ronface stuck his dumb and retarded child piece of tail to care for his children and she is not all there, I would imagine she did very poorly in school, I would bet her IQ is about a 60, you can tell just by her look, she has that duh look of somebody who is not bright and I think that if someone who was qualified to really hammer at suspects, then she might fold.
The longer she waits, the harder it will be if they find Haleigh's remains and my friend agrees with me, she is scared to death of Ron and LE and because this inbred twit is probably in love with him, she wants to keep him and her freedom, she has been brought up to fear LE and it is all about her and not Haleigh and this gives me credence that she wanted Haleigh gone and as I discussed this at length with a cop friend who has kept up with this and he thinks that Misti killed the child out of rage, like Haleigh acted up, or out of jealousy like Casey apparently did and he too says it will go down bad on her because she is not telling the truth and hasn't been since day one and I told him I feel even more so that she killed her based on the phone call where Ronnie gives her permission to beat his child and I think she went overboard, killed her, panicked and knew she would have to come up with a plausible story that Ron and LE might buy, seeing as several children including Caylee had come up missing and then found dead, Trenton Duckett is still missing and I am positive he is also deceased and murdered by his moma who took herself out because she knew she would go to prison for life.
She took the coward way out so I feel that honeypie here thought that saying somebody took her right out of the bedroom would be believable. Now if anyone tries to get into my house, my outside door sticks and is hard to open without making noise and my stairs creak too, I would know somebody was in my house for sure and if Haleigh was in that bedroom with her and someone comes in and takes the kid and she hears nothing? How come Haleigh did not cry out? I know Jessie was told by Couey to shutup and out of fear she did, but I wish she had cried or screamed, she would be alive today and the only reason that I think Haleigh did not cry out is she knew who was taking her or Misti scooped up her body, it is now dark out, and brought her somewhere and I think it is a comfort zone where the remains may be found.
wind149
04-30-2009, 07:29 PM
Just watched Jane's latest info and her panel seems to be convinced that drugs are playing a big factor, but since this whole clan are nothing but trash, I don't see a high level drug dealer kidnapping and holding this child to pay a drug debt? Surely someone would see the child? I still think Misti has killed her and Curtis Sliwa said that all of these players like her and Nay Nay and Amber all need to get their tubes tied so they don't procreate and I agree. None of these people know what parenting is, how can they? All you have to do is look at their parents and kinfolk to know that all of them are pure D hillbilly trash, especially Misti's kin, not a tooth among them and her Dad tells art harris that Ron tried to poison him with pills? Well ya dumb hick, why did you take them? Because you are an addict? He allegedly was in a car accident and if so, don't you think a doctor would prescribe pain meds?? He probably has been shut off is what I am thinking, he really looks like a low-life, not a tooth in his head and he does not look clean the few times he has been on the news.
lorettalockhorn
04-30-2009, 07:37 PM
Hey Wind! How are you feeling? And you too, Drew; saw you up there too! :seeya:
JVM is giving quite a bit of time to Haleigh's disappearance tonight. Her EXcellent panel seems to be in agreement with LE that this is not a stranger or SO abduction, but that the one unifying element tying all the players together is drugs, and that Haleigh may have been taken for revenge or in lieu ofa drug debt.
Still have a hard time believing that any of these fidiots could keep her to be returned alive and well after eighty days and don't get why LE is pussyfooting around with the likes of Ron&Misty.
Oh, they came back to the story, and there is some criticism of the fact that LE doesn't seem to be following up on the supposed eyewitnesses to Misty having been out of the house that night. Lawsy They have a flow chart.
Probably a dumb question. But why was Haleigh taken instead of Junior? Anyone have any ideas? Wouldn't she be more of a risk (to keep alive) with her health issues in case the drug ransom is paid? Or is it because of Haleigh's frailties that the kidnappers thought Cummings would fold more quickly and pay his debt?
lorettalockhorn
04-30-2009, 07:41 PM
HAHAHA Curtis Sliwa thinks their tubes should all be tied. I'll go him one better and say that their mothers' tubes should have been tied! :hat: Agree that it's time for the cops to play bad cop.
wind149
04-30-2009, 08:58 PM
Loretta, how about this old one, "Did your mother have any kids that lived? Or the best part of you was running down your Momma's legs?" The last one is a bit much, but you could get a reaction out of somebody quick! I went on art harris and read comments from other people and I of course had to share 50 cents!!! And those comments, a lot of people think their lifestyle and drugs are linking this trash to each other, but I just don't think they ever knew any high level drug dealers, they are small fish in a huge pond and guys like that, do not bother kidnapping children to repay a drug debt, they just have you beaten up or worse, a child would be a liability they don't need. I still maintain Misti is behind the whole thing and is lying through her tooth and I wish LE would do what I want them to do, I am convinced it would work, I have seen people fold after being hammered at for 10 hours and with this loser chick, I think they need to do this, but I think if I e-mailed them and told them what I think, they would resent it, male egos and all and that Sheriff? He looks too "good old boy" for me. I wish I could hear those interview tapes of Misti's.
After transcribing thousands of tapes to have ready for trial, I got so I could tell just by their voices, people were lying like rugs. Their voice pitch would go up octaves and the angry outbursts screaming their denials and I just knew that they were not telling the truth or the whole story and 9 times out of ten I was right, it is just a feeling you get after preparing tapes, ask any dispatcher that transcribes and they will tell you the same. I am glad they think it is not a stranger abduction, and how did they reach this conclusion and if so, why not tell the public?? Curtis Sliwa said something that stuck out, he thinks LE wants to arrest Misti, but they just don't have enough to go on at this point, no body is probably why she is still walking free and if Haleigh is dead, I want to see her found and she can get a proper burial instead of probably laying in a ditch somewhere or buried in a swamp, I can't imagine any of my godkids lying like that, maggots eating them away, sickening to think this, but we all know why the maggots were present in Casey's car.
Exclusive: Haleigh Cummings–Nay Nay Out of Jail!
snip.....
Meet Jerome, fresh out of jail himself earlier this month on a $31,000 bond for assorted charges, including drugs…
UCN: 542009CF000537XXAXMX
File Date: 2009-04-02
Judge: EDWARD E HEDSTROM
Defense Atty:
Defendant
WILLIAMS, JEROME RAYMOND
Alias
WILLIAMS, GEROME R
WILLIAMS, RAYMOND JEROME
Date
#
Docket Description
2009-04-02
1
ARREST REPORT - FHP TRP.VEGA (AR 4/1/09)
2009-04-02
1
BOOKING NUMBER: 09-1322
2009-04-02
1
NO VALID DRIVERS LICENSE
2009-04-02
1
ATTACHING TAG NOT ASSIGNED
2009-04-02
1
POSSESSION OF DRUG PARAPHERNALIA
2009-04-02
1
SALE OF 10 PLUS GRAMS OF CONTROLLED SUBSTANCE
2009-04-02
1
POSSESSION CONTROLLED SUBSTANCE WITHIN 200 FEET PARK
2009-04-02
1
POSSESSION CONTROLLED SUBSTANCE WITHIN 1000 FT.GROCERY
2009-04-02
1
POSSESSION OF LEGEND DRUGS WITHOUT PRESCRIPTION WITH
2009-04-02
1
INTENT TO SELL OXYCONTIN 40 MG
2009-04-02
1
POSSESSION CONTROLLED SUBSTANCE 1000 FEET CHURCH
2009-04-02
1
POSSESSION WITH INTENT TO SELL 1000 FEET SCHOOL
2009-04-02
1
POSSESSION OF LEGEND DRUG WITHOUT PRESCRIPTION WITH
2009-04-02
1
INTENT TO SELL
2009-04-02
1
POSSESSION OF COCAINE
2009-04-02
1
POSSESSION OF COCAINE (CRACK)
2009-04-02
1
POSSESSION WITH INTENT TO SELL LEGEND DRUG WITHOUT
2009-04-02
1
PRESCRIPTION
2009-04-02
2
DEFENDANT PRESENT FOR FIRST APPEARANCE HRG 4/2/09
2009-04-02
2
ADJ INS P D APPOINTED FOR FIRST APPEARANCE ONLY
2009-04-02
2
SUFFICIENT PROBABLE CAUSE FOUND
2009-04-02
2
$ 504.00 SECURED BOND SET CT. I
2009-04-02
2
$ 504.00 SECURED BOND SET CT. II
2009-04-02
2
$ 504.00 SECURED BOND SET CT. III
2009-04-02
2
$5004.00 SECURED BOND SET CT. IV
2009-04-02
2
$5004.00 SECURED BOND SET CT. V
2009-04-02
2
$5004.00 SECURED BOND SET CT. VI
2009-04-02
2
$1004.00 SECURED BOND SET CT. VII
2009-04-02
2
$5004.00 SECURED BOND SET CT. VIII
2009-04-02
2
$5004.00 SECURED BOND SET CT. IX
2009-04-02
2
$1004.00 SECURED BOND SET CT. X
2009-04-02
2
$1004.00 SECURED BOND SET CT. XI
2009-04-02
2
$1004.00 SECURED BOND SET CT. XII
2009-04-02
2
$1004.00 SECURED BOND SET CT. XIII
2009-04-02
3
TRAFFIC CITATION - #1468-SNO X - NO DL
2009-04-02
4
TRAFFIC CITATION - #1467-SNO X - TAG ATTACH
2009-04-02
5
AFFIDAVIT OF INSOLVENCY
2009-04-02
6
ORDER APPOINTING PUBLIC DEFENDER FOR 1ST APP HEARING
2009-04-02
7
$ 504.00 CHUCK’S BAIL BOND POSTED - #00803821 4/2/09
2009-04-02
8
$ 504.00 CHUCK’S BAIL BOND POSTED - #00803820
2009-04-02
9
$ 504.00 CHUCK’S BAIL BOND POSTED - #00803819
2009-04-02
10
$1004.00 CHUCK’S BAIL BOND POSTED - #00803818
2009-04-02
11
$1004.00 CHUCK’S BAIL BOND POSTED - #00803814
2009-04-02
12
$1004.00 CHUCK’S BAIL BOND POSTED - #00803817
2009-04-02
13
$5004.00 CHUCK’S BAIL BOND POSTED - #00805254
2009-04-02
14
$5004.00 CHUCK’S BAIL BOND POSTED - #00805255
2009-04-02
15
$5004.00 CHUCK’S BAIL BOND POSTED - #00805256
2009-04-02
16
$5004.00 CHUCK’S BAIL BOND POSTED - #00805257
2009-04-02
17
$5004.00 CHUCK’S BAIL BOND POSTED - #00795984
2009-04-02
18
$1004.00 CHUCK’S BAIL BOND POSTED - #00803815
2009-04-02
19
$1004.00 CHUCK’S BAIL BOND POSTED - #00803816
2009-04-02
19
CONTINENTAL HERITAGE INSURANCE CO.
http://www.artharris.com/2009/04/30/exclusive-haleigh-cummings-nay-nay-out-of-jail/#more-1809
They really racked up the charges on this fellow. Wonder if this document is going to look like Ron's @ some point--a lot of charges, but ending up with no convictions. Surely he has a pretty lengthy record, can't believe this would be his first ride on the merry go round.
ErrinSpelling
04-30-2009, 11:53 PM
I like reading Art Harris, mainly because he's about the only game in town when it comes to Haleigh news, and let's face it, if this soap opera wasn't going on, we'd never hear anything to remind us about this girl. Is that what LE wants? For us to forget? Sometimes I wonder, because it's hard to believe that they can't get more information from the star of this drama.
That said, I have trouble understanding AH's use of pronouns sometimes, and wonder exactly what her means or who he's talking about. I find it hard to believe that he is actually an award winning journalist, but hey my jerkwater town newspaper wins awards too. I could barely makes heads or tails of the story about Hankie's attempted murder rant at Cummings. (And I think a lot of the comments at The Bald Truth must be from locals; they seem drug induced.)
So Misty has an attorney after all this time. We don't have any indication that she has been requested to show up for anymore interviews with LE. Cannot wait to find out who the ambulance chaser is! Sure wish someone would talk her into (or order her) to have a sit down with a forensic psychiatrist to try to put together a timeline for this crime.
Nay Nay sounds like a trainwreck, and again I wonder what kind of valid information she can possibly give LE considering her condition. Why sweat her in jail when they could be doing the same to someone directly involved? No charges for the attempted child abduction? Not even endangering the welfare of a minor? And if she thinks she's going to die in jail, why didn't she have herself committed?
This whole county sounds like a bunch of idiots, sub-elementals, crooks, crunksters, pedophiles, lechers, etc.
lol drug induced locals comments- 1st graders write better..
poor art has no editor.
i cannot wait to hear misty explain away, only guilty need lawyers.
i think hank was telling the truth the 1st time & did taksies backsies, b/c ron threatened him.jmo
ErrinSpelling
04-30-2009, 11:59 PM
You know, I am so curious about that E coli issue. Were there any other cases reported at the time? Anyone else in the family or at Haleigh's school? Or does she have digestive issues that make her more vulnerable?
i never saw anyone say anything about anyone else at school & i looked.
ok, if yall remember that baird (sp) sociopath, who rubbed raw meat in her husband;s gunshot stomach wound....no reason the dropout misty couldn't have seen that on court tv, or on snapped ...
ErrinSpelling
05-01-2009, 12:07 AM
Well, you and I think an awful lot alike (especially considering Misty's brainpower!). For one, Cummings nor Mother Teresa (can't remember who actually took Haleigh to the ER) may not or would not have known what was up, so of course if her symptoms were bad enough they would have her see the doctor. OR if there was really a nefarious plan to get rid of Haleigh, maybe whoever was responsible thought that because of her overall health condition, she wouldn't survive the bout of extreme gastroenteritis. And of course, to take her to the doctor/hospital/ER always looks like the right thing to do no matter what.
Believe me, it has occurred to me that Haleigh might not be as valuable to Ron as Junior for example. I mean she's only a girl, and she can't have a litter of children beginning before she's even emancipated. And something tells me that Misty would never consider the child of another woman to be anything other than an unpleasant reminder that her man is a manwh0re.
you know why you can't remember , b/c they both said they did...ronsaid he did...then a long time after that, TN said she did.. after school, he went to work...
just like they both say they picked her up from school.....
ErrinSpelling
05-01-2009, 12:11 AM
I just don't believe Misti was that smart. I think she (with her limited education and I know kids this age could care less about watching news or edu tv) has probably never heard about e-coli. jmo She probably is so stupid that she doesn't know to discard meat in the fridge after 3 days. Just my opine.
now that makes perfect sense. i'll take stupid alex for 5000$.
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