Anything else you want to discuss goes here

[SaraSidle]

Gator and O2S I am so glad to hear you are better. I hope you feel better soon too BoB. darling story of your son btw

[Amy]

It's being reported that the primary gunman is Major Malik Hassan of Virginia.

From CNN Breaking News:

-- Alleged Fort Hood lone gunman -- U.S. Army Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan -- is alive and in custody, said Lt. Gen. Robert Cone.

And from Washington Post Breaking News:


News Alert
09:23 PM EST Thursday, November 5, 2009

Fort Hood suspected gunman was not killed in incident

The gunman behind a shooting rampage at Fort Hood is alive, hospitalized in stable condition and in custody, the commanding general of Fort Hood said Thursday night in contradicting his own information from earlier Thursday. Lt. Gen. Robert W. Cone said Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan was the only shooter.

Guess it's like most other breaking news--some of the initial information is not true. I'm sure we will be hearing more about this. I had read that the fellow is a psychiatrist, had been practicing @ Walter Reed. Don't know how long in the past (it was written like he no longer is) nor how old the guy is.

[BeastofBears]

From CNN Breaking News:



And from Washington Post Breaking News:


News Alert
09:23 PM EST Thursday, November 5, 2009

Fort Hood suspected gunman was not killed in incident


Guess it's like most other breaking news--some of the initial information is not true. I'm sure we will be hearing more about this. I had read that the fellow is a psychiatrist, had been practicing @ Walter Reed. Don't know how long in the past (it was written like he no longer is) nor how old the guy is.

It was interesting, because the army itself said he was dead at first. I think maybe they said that to get him "safely" off base and to a hospital?

[beemer]

Doc dump today-link is on the Caylee thread :beer:

[shadydaisy]

I have lived thru 2 layoffs. Like you, I figure, I still have a job, and if I want to keep it, I'd best be figuring out how I am going to do the work added to my plate. I haven't ever had to take a pay cut, either. So, I try not to whine too much when they aren't giving out raises, either.

We had some 10% cuts but I wasn't included. No complaints from me!

Very professional behavior ya got there. Yelling never solves anything. It simply makes it worse. Not a just a male thing either, I worked with a lot of ladies when I taught and believe me they yell too.

I used to work with women - it wasn't always pretty! Not only did they yell but the comments would get personal. At least so far the guys are keeping it professional and not personal. Keeping my fingers crossed.....

[beemer]

Good luck Shady :beer: I work in a predominately female field altho more and more men are jumping aboard. I have found all women to be the worst-they form alliances and are so catty. One thing i have noticed whenever a male joins our team women behave better. I've prided myself in staying outta the mix of the gossip mongers for the 26 years i have been with this agency. I have seen many dragged into the office over gossip and the other extreme of setting co-workers up for such things as documentation or med errors. Sad. I cant imagine having petty gossipy stuff in my file. How embarrassing is that. I've made some great friends along the way. You can spot the pot stirrers a mile away and i just stay away. It's everywhere :seeya:

[deacon]

Good luck Shady :beer: I work in a predominately female field altho more and more men are jumping aboard. I have found all women to be the worst-they form alliances and are so catty. One thing i have noticed whenever a male joins our team women behave better. I've prided myself in staying outta the mix of the gossip mongers for the 26 years i have been with this agency. I have seen many dragged into the office over gossip and the other extreme of setting co-workers up for such things as documentation or med errors. Sad. I cant imagine having petty gossipy stuff in my file. How embarrassing is that. I've made some great friends along the way. You can spot the pot stirrers a mile away and i just stay away. It's everywhere :seeya:

I taught electricity/electronics for 16 years at a technical college and had one femal boss. The best boss I ever had at that place. She realized she was not an expert in every subject we taught there and would include us in discussions related to topics in our field. I asked her once why she wanted to transfer from the division she was in to the one we were in and she said there was a lot less back stabbing and gossip in the industrial division. She had a lot of industrial background and was great. No BS with her. The guy that came after she left was a dork. I had to testify and a hearing regarding sexual harassment just before he was relieved of his duties. Not pleasant but very, very necessary. Like I said he was a dork and I guess you could say I had a large part to do with him leaving. I saw and heard a lot that he didn't know I saw or heard and I told it like it was. You know, it never was the same after that. That is why I left. I have students working in at least 3 states making a great deal more than me and that makes me feel good but I do not miss the garbage from that place.

[BeastofBears]

Good luck Shady :beer: I work in a predominately female field altho more and more men are jumping aboard. I have found all women to be the worst-they form alliances and are so catty. One thing i have noticed whenever a male joins our team women behave better. I've prided myself in staying outta the mix of the gossip mongers for the 26 years i have been with this agency. I have seen many dragged into the office over gossip and the other extreme of setting co-workers up for such things as documentation or med errors. Sad. I cant imagine having petty gossipy stuff in my file. How embarrassing is that. I've made some great friends along the way. You can spot the pot stirrers a mile away and i just stay away. It's everywhere :seeya:

Its true. So often it feels like middle school. My worst work experiences have been with all female workplaces. My best have been in mixed/slightly more male workplaces. I think since men and women get riled up about different things, if the workplace is mixed, nothing has a chance to fester and build.

[shadydaisy]

I guess work relationships are tricky wherever you are!

This is my first time being in charge of people (20 of them left) and I think I'm reasonable. I don't yell or humiliate anyone. Many of them are scattered around the US and work in funky locations. I've only actually met about 8 of them. It's easy to get along when you don't work in the same office day in and day out.

It cracks me up when the one in NY starts complaining about the one working in CO. It is a good thing they have some distance between them.

[samanthajane13]

Hey, gang!!!

EVERYONE TO THE LOUNGE!!!!

[beemer]

Hey, gang!!!

EVERYONE TO THE LOUNGE!!!!

On my way-watsup?

[samanthajane13]

Party for Marion!!!!

[samanthajane13]

DAMN!!!!

MUST clean out my antibiotic culturing lab...er...my fridge.

YIKES!!!

I SWEAR there are things in there that have mutated into sentient beings...WITH FACES AND LEGS!!!! :eek:

When I opened the door, SOMETHING yelled out that the light was burning it's eyes!!! :seeya:

Anyone have the number for HazMat??? The CDC??? SETI???

HOLY CRAP!!!! The smell if the one container was enough to knock a buzzard off a s#it-wagon!!! I have no idea what it WAS, and I don't even recognize the container. Must be SOMETHING Mom sent over...:cuss:

Okay-I'm going back in. :(

If I don't make it back, PRAY FOR ME!!!!

I love you all, and you're my bestest best friends!!!

:rose:

[samanthajane13]

HOLY FLOCK!!!

I'm back and the fridge is DONE!!!

[BeastofBears]

DAMN!!!!

MUST clean out my antibiotic culturing lab...er...my fridge.

YIKES!!!

I SWEAR there are things in there that have mutated into sentient beings...WITH FACES AND LEGS!!!! :eek:

When I opened the door, SOMETHING yelled out that the light was burning it's eyes!!! :seeya:

Anyone have the number for HazMat??? The CDC??? SETI???

HOLY CRAP!!!! The smell if the one container was enough to knock a buzzard off a s#it-wagon!!! I have no idea what it WAS, and I don't even recognize the container. Must be SOMETHING Mom sent over...:cuss:

Okay-I'm going back in. :(

If I don't make it back, PRAY FOR ME!!!!

I love you all, and you're my bestest best friends!!!

:rose:

LOL! And Nawny complains about measly laundry!

I HATE cleaning the fridge. It is worse than the diaper genie (since that is my hubby's job :D)

[beemer]

HOLY FLOCK!!!

I'm back and the fridge is DONE!!!

LMAO-good stuff Sam-dontcha luv it when ya find meat cake. Worst job in the world :eek:

[One2Snoop]

Off Topic

WarmNCozy

http://boards.library.trutv.com/showthread.php?t=295502

[beemer]

That is so sad re-Eileen. Thanks Snoop and Sam for letting us know :rose:

[samanthajane13]

Snoop-

How can you POSSIBLY be off-topic in an OFF-TOPIC thread???

You're so silly, my friend!!!

[deacon]

Snoop-

How can you POSSIBLY be off-topic in an OFF-TOPIC thread???

You're so silly, my friend!!!

That was what had be bumfuzzeled. How is someone off-topic in the Anything else you want to discuss goes here... thread. If one can be then I am as guilty as it gets.

[beemer]

So we need to stay on topic of the off topic :confused::shrug: just funnin ya ;)

[One2Snoop]

LOL - I copied and pasted what I posted on another thread. Didn't even think about the off topic comment in the post you sillies LOL. :tongue:

[BeastofBears]

That was what had be bumfuzzeled. How is someone off-topic in the Anything else you want to discuss goes here... thread. If one can be then I am as guilty as it gets.

I always feel like I'm off-topic if I change the subject!

[samanthajane13]

I don't think of it as going off-topic.

I think of it as normal conversation.

How many times in the course of the day do you say "off-topic" before you change the subject of a conversation???

I think of this particular board as our "coffee-clutch" place...ANYTHING GOES!!!

[BeastofBears]

I don't think of it as going off-topic.

I think of it as normal conversation.

How many times in the course of the day do you say "off-topic" before you change the subject of a conversation???

I think of this particular board as our "coffee-clutch" place...ANYTHING GOES!!!

Isn't it great to have this place? Other sites have the ban-hammer for going off topic, and here we have our own little hang-out where we can really get to know each other..

[beemer]

Isn't it great to have this place? Other sites have the ban-hammer for going off topic, and here we have our own little hang-out where we can really get to know each other..

I know-luv it here. It's so relaxed :beer:

[beemer]

Where's Nawny-haven't seen her in a bit. Prolly knee deep in reno's :eek:

[deacon]

Where's Nawny-haven't seen her in a bit. Prolly knee deep in reno's :eek:

More than likely knee deep in someone's rump if her work isn't going better.

[deacon]

http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/11/06/texas.polygamist.convicted/index.html

There are many more steps to take. This whole case makes me sick.

[beemer]

More than likely knee deep in someone's rump if her work isn't going better.

I'll bet she is and poppa too. She will be glad when it's done :eek:

[beemer]

http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/11/06/texas.polygamist.convicted/index.html

There are many more steps to take. This whole case makes me sick.

Thanks for the link deacon i had been following that a bit. Disgusting when these pieces of pond scum do their dirty work under the guise of religion :flamemad:

[deacon]

They may make money but at what cost? Selling their soul? Selling their body? Selling the gender of Woman out to a cheap job?

One thing to note, drugs and prostitution are rampart in women that work in strip clubs as well a sexual harasment. "Quid Pro Quo" this for that. You give me this (your body) and I will give you a place to take your clothes off and parade in front of men who do not respect you, want you for only one thing, and would use you and throw you to the side of the road at the drop of a hat.

There, I am through ranting now.:flamemad:

[JLette]

They may make money but at what cost? Selling their soul? Selling their body? Selling the gender of Woman out to a cheap job?

One thing to note, drugs and prostitution are rampart in women that work in strip clubs as well a sexual harasment. "Quid Pro Quo" this for that. You give me this (your body) and I will give you a place to take your clothes off and parade in front of men who do not respect you, want you for only one thing, and would use you and throw you to the side of the road at the drop of a hat.

There, I am through ranting now.:flamemad:

i can see your point. hear is my take: first off...imo it seems a tad hypocritical to stand up for women's rights but then judge what some women choose to do with those rights. many may disagree with this but the way i see it is, women want it to be "our body our choice" well that goes for every interpretation IMO. if a woman wants to sell her body then who are we to tell her she can't. i am NOT by any means advocating prostitution, i just don't think their should be a double standard on women's rights over their bodies.

secondly: women who work as prostitutes or strippers are not, imo, searching for respect from the males of our species. for whatever reasons, they probably enjoy the objectifying to a degree. maybe they grew up without a father figure and so any male attention is good to them, or maybe their are other reasons behind it.

my main point is, SOME women out their make decisions that the rest of us do not approve of, but unless they are hurting someone BESIDES themselves it is really no one elses business what they do with their time or bodies. it only becomes someone elses business when they begin hurting others.

just my opinion :cool:

[beemer]

They may make money but at what cost? Selling their soul? Selling their body? Selling the gender of Woman out to a cheap job?

One thing to note, drugs and prostitution are rampart in women that work in strip clubs as well a sexual harasment. "Quid Pro Quo" this for that. You give me this (your body) and I will give you a place to take your clothes off and parade in front of men who do not respect you, want you for only one thing, and would use you and throw you to the side of the road at the drop of a hat.

There, I am through ranting now.:flamemad:

I hear ya deacon-the world of sleaze. Right up Rotten Ronny's alley tho dontcha think.

[deacon]

i can see your point. hear is my take: first off...imo it seems a tad hypocritical to stand up for women's rights but then judge what some women choose to do with those rights. many may disagree with this but the way i see it is, women want it to be "our body our choice" well that goes for every interpretation IMO. if a woman wants to sell her body then who are we to tell her she can't. i am NOT by any means advocating prostitution, i just don't think their should be a double standard on women's rights over their bodies.

secondly: women who work as prostitutes or strippers are not, imo, searching for respect from the males of our species. for whatever reasons, they probably enjoy the objectifying to a degree. maybe they grew up without a father figure and so any male attention is good to them, or maybe their are other reasons behind it.

my main point is, SOME women out their make decisions that the rest of us do not approve of, but unless they are hurting someone BESIDES themselves it is really no one elses business what they do with their time or bodies. it only becomes someone elses business when they begin hurting others.

just my opinion :cool:

But by your response it would seem you do. BTW, I am concerned about women who make these choices as human beings. I also have little or no respect for men who treat them as pieces of meat to be used for recreatio and nothing more. If I saw one of them about to walk out in front of a train I would try to stop them. Just like when I see them show no respect for themselves I would try to stop them. Both of these issues can end in death.

There are way too many of these women who end up raped and dead to ignore this problem. Noticed that you left out the drug abuse. It is quite common in both of these professions. Another really big problem.

I know for sure I would not date a woman that was involved in "the trade."

[mu8shark]

Did anyone see Too Late to Say Goodbye on Lifetime based on the Ann Rule book? While I realize tv takes dramatic license, that movie was wildly inaccurate according to the book. Bart Corbin never spoke to the police because he lawyered up immediately. He never came home to check on or pick up his boys. Jenn never met her internet friend in person. It portrayed her family as not believing he hit her and trying to talk her into staying in the marriage. It portrayed her sister as being sympathetic to Bart in the beginning. All of his was false, false, false. They definitely believed her, they had seen his temper in action and also when he hit her and she went to her sisters, her sister tried to convince her not to go back. Her family did not think she was exagerating about his affair with his technican. I absolutely hated how they portrayed her and softened him. Most of the time they stay close to the book on these Ann Rule movies. That was just a hatchet job on a fascinating case that the producers and scriptwriters totally rewrote. Ugghhh...

[beemer]

Didn't see it Mu and from your account i'm glad. Must be so hard for the family of the victim/s :rose:

[beemer]

This gruesome story is not for the faint of heart. I have provided the link from the fifth Estate-Canadian show that just televised it. You can watch it here-the greyhound bus story from Canada. It just kills me that cops did nothing for hours while that sicko was allowed to walk around on the bus with his poor victims head and then proceed to eat parts :cuss::eek::flamemad:

My gawd his family must be just beyond themselves :rose:

http://www.cbc.ca/fifth/

[One2Snoop]

Did anyone see Too Late to Say Goodbye on Lifetime based on the Ann Rule book? While I realize tv takes dramatic license, that movie was wildly inaccurate according to the book. Bart Corbin never spoke to the police because he lawyered up immediately. He never came home to check on or pick up his boys. Jenn never met her internet friend in person. It portrayed her family as not believing he hit her and trying to talk her into staying in the marriage. It portrayed her sister as being sympathetic to Bart in the beginning. All of his was false, false, false. They definitely believed her, they had seen his temper in action and also when he hit her and she went to her sisters, her sister tried to convince her not to go back. Her family did not think she was exagerating about his affair with his technican. I absolutely hated how they portrayed her and softened him. Most of the time they stay close to the book on these Ann Rule movies. That was just a hatchet job on a fascinating case that the producers and scriptwriters totally rewrote. Ugghhh...

ITA mu8. I saw it. I thought with all the advertising hype it would have been better than it was.

[JLette]

But by your response it would seem you do. BTW, I am concerned about women who make these choices as human beings. I also have little or no respect for men who treat them as pieces of meat to be used for recreatio and nothing more. If I saw one of them about to walk out in front of a train I would try to stop them. Just like when I see them show no respect for themselves I would try to stop them. Both of these issues can end in death.

There are way too many of these women who end up raped and dead to ignore this problem. Noticed that you left out the drug abuse. It is quite common in both of these professions. Another really big problem.

I know for sure I would not date a woman that was involved in "the trade."

maybe my attitude comes from my experience with my older sister, who has for years sold herself to maintain a drug habit. i had to disassociate myself from her after so many times of attempting to help her. sometimes you have to face the fact that unless someone is READY to accept help from anyone for whatever vices they may have, they will never ACCEPT the help being offered. i waited for over a decade for my sister to be ready to accept the help our family was trying to offer, and after time and time again of heartbreak and frustration i finally decided to simply wash my hands of her and accept the fact that some people make decisions that are just plain bad but there is nothing to be done about it.

many of those women are in that lifestyle either because of the world they grew up in, or circumstances put them there, but in order to pull out of it they have to WANT to, thats all i was trying to say. and if they DON'T want to then leave them to lie in the bed they made.

[BeastofBears]

I'll bet she is and poppa too. She will be glad when it's done :eek:

She's probably physically restraining poppa.

[deacon]

maybe my attitude comes from my experience with my older sister, who has for years sold herself to maintain a drug habit. i had to disassociate myself from her after so many times of attempting to help her. sometimes you have to face the fact that unless someone is READY to accept help from anyone for whatever vices they may have, they will never ACCEPT the help being offered. i waited for over a decade for my sister to be ready to accept the help our family was trying to offer, and after time and time again of heartbreak and frustration i finally decided to simply wash my hands of her and accept the fact that some people make decisions that are just plain bad but there is nothing to be done about it.

many of those women are in that lifestyle either because of the world they grew up in, or circumstances put them there, but in order to pull out of it they have to WANT to, thats all i was trying to say. and if they DON'T want to then leave them to lie in the bed they made.

ITA. And I loath the men who take advantage of situations like that.

No one can be helped until they decide they want and need help. No matter what portion of life they need help.

[deacon]

She's probably physically restraining poppa.

Turn poppa loose!!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=He82NBjJqf8

[BeastofBears]

They may make money but at what cost? Selling their soul? Selling their body? Selling the gender of Woman out to a cheap job?

One thing to note, drugs and prostitution are rampart in women that work in strip clubs as well a sexual harasment. "Quid Pro Quo" this for that. You give me this (your body) and I will give you a place to take your clothes off and parade in front of men who do not respect you, want you for only one thing, and would use you and throw you to the side of the road at the drop of a hat.

There, I am through ranting now.:flamemad:

My neighbor stripped her way through college. It paid her tuition, but she looked 10 years older than she should have when she graduated. You wonder what permanent effects it will have.

[deacon]

My neighbor stripped her way through college. It paid her tuition, but she looked 10 years older than she should have when she graduated. You wonder what permanent effects it will have.

Probably more than we will ever know.

[SaraSidle]

BoB......I am so jealous. a 330 foot sushi at Berkeley and you never told me. I could have eaten half you know.:(

[old_soul]

maybe my attitude comes from my experience with my older sister, who has for years sold herself to maintain a drug habit. i had to disassociate myself from her after so many times of attempting to help her. sometimes you have to face the fact that unless someone is READY to accept help from anyone for whatever vices they may have, they will never ACCEPT the help being offered. i waited for over a decade for my sister to be ready to accept the help our family was trying to offer, and after time and time again of heartbreak and frustration i finally decided to simply wash my hands of her and accept the fact that some people make decisions that are just plain bad but there is nothing to be done about it.

many of those women are in that lifestyle either because of the world they grew up in, or circumstances put them there, but in order to pull out of it they have to WANT to, thats all i was trying to say. and if they DON'T want to then leave them to lie in the bed they made.

Hey there new mommy! How are ya holding up?

While I totally understand and feel sadness for the situation (with your sis), and how you guys have tried to help, mostly it's self esteem or an underlying psychological problem that gets these women to a point where they do the things they do. " I am a worthless piece of s**t and don't deserve to be anything other than what I am/have ~ Who else will have me/take me?" That is the mindset when someone is so low from drugs and brutality and abuse..a bottomless pit. I don't know what it was in your sisters life that put her on drugs, but something happened there, and no one is aware of it. The other reason is being forced by an adult to prostitute and are started that way, and the drugs are a tool...

Certainly not to be confused with many of this new generation of girls who think it's ok to show their body and hoo ha for bucks...that's another story altogether, and just as sad.

Jlette, please, don't ever give up on her...it may not seem so (to her), but her life is worth soooo much more..the next try might mean all the difference in the world.

Just my thoughts....:rose: I know it hurts and ain't easy.

[BeastofBears]

BoB......I am so jealous. a 330 foot sushi at Berkeley and you never told me. I could have eaten half you know.:(

I hadn't heard-I'm allergic to ocean fish, so it would have been under the radar.

However, mollify yourself with the knowledge that if it was in Berkeley, it had the distinct odor of human urine.

[deacon]

maybe my attitude comes from my experience with my older sister, who has for years sold herself to maintain a drug habit. i had to disassociate myself from her after so many times of attempting to help her. sometimes you have to face the fact that unless someone is READY to accept help from anyone for whatever vices they may have, they will never ACCEPT the help being offered. i waited for over a decade for my sister to be ready to accept the help our family was trying to offer, and after time and time again of heartbreak and frustration i finally decided to simply wash my hands of her and accept the fact that some people make decisions that are just plain bad but there is nothing to be done about it.

many of those women are in that lifestyle either because of the world they grew up in, or circumstances put them there, but in order to pull out of it they have to WANT to, thats all i was trying to say. and if they DON'T want to then leave them to lie in the bed they made.

Let me add, your sister is in my prayers. I pray she realizes she needs help.

[old_soul]

My neighbor stripped her way through college. It paid her tuition, but she looked 10 years older than she should have when she graduated. You wonder what permanent effects it will have.

They lose any bit of respect they might have had for men, and many MANY become lesbians purely because they skeeveeeeeeeeeee men.


:o Many clients talk.... alot.............

[BeastofBears]

The DC sniper is going down tomorrow night, 9 pm. In other news, the Fort Hood gunman was sending e-mails to al-Qaeda members, and on top of all the other signs, everyone just went *meh* and kept plodding along...Helloooo? Earth to whomever...???

[SaraSidle]

I hadn't heard-I'm allergic to ocean fish, so it would have been under the radar.

However, mollify yourself with the knowledge that if it was in Berkeley, it had the distinct odor of human urine.


that is twice in one week you have shot down what I eat. I can never look at sausage and sushi again.......................

[JLette]

Hey there new mommy! How are ya holding up?

While I totally understand and feel sadness for the situation (with your sis), and how you guys have tried to help, mostly it's self esteem or an underlying psychological problem that gets these women to a point where they do the things they do. " I am a worthless piece of s**t and don't deserve to be anything other than what I am/have ~ Who else will have me/take me?" That is the mindset when someone is so low from drugs and brutality and abuse..a bottomless pit. I don't know what it was in your sisters life that put her on drugs, but something happened there, and no one is aware of it. The other reason is being forced by an adult to prostitute and are started that way, and the drugs are a tool...

Certainly not to be confused with many of this new generation of girls who think it's ok to show their body and hoo ha for bucks...that's another story altogether, and just as sad.

Jlette, please, don't ever give up on her...it may not seem so (to her), but her life is worth soooo much more..the next try might mean all the difference in the world.

Just my thoughts....:rose: I know it hurts and ain't easy.


alot of factors contributed to my sisters poor life decisions. my mother had her at a young age and gave her up to my great aunt, nine years later when i was 4 years old my half sister called my mother up and told her a story of abuse at the hands of our great aunt, so my mother kidnapped her and we moved to another town where she was immediately in trouble for the entire two years we lived there, we then moved AGAIN because of her shenanigans and when we moved here in 92 when she was 13 and i was 7 she ran away from home. my parents knew where she was but the laws at that time (according to police) prohibited my mother from FORCING her to come home and stay there as stupid as that sounds. so for the next 5 years we did not hear from her at all and rarely knew where she was staying. we know that sometime during that time she started using meth and has been ever since. we didn't actually come into contact with her again until she was 21 and pregnant with my nephew, she sought out our mother for help at that time, and our mother gave it to her in the form of family support including a place to stay with her new baby. but she wouldn't abide by the requirements our mother put on her to quit using and clean up for herself and her son. so she disappeared again until my nephew was two, when she AGAIN sought out our mother claiming to want help, but what she really wanted was a place to sleep off her high when she needed to and a place to ditch her kid as well. my mother went one step further and got LEGAL custody of my nephew. she didn't hear from her again until he was 6 years old, she was granted visitation and introduced us all to her NEW baby, 6 months later she was using again and had lost custody of her DAUGHTER to the fathers parents. she quit coming to see her son altogether, she was supposed to show up one day and just didn't. he is now 8 years old and does not even refer to her as his mother, when he speaks of her it is always by name now, and he has no desire to see her. i decided when she couldn't stop screwing up his life seemingly on purpose that i was finished with her. imo, and this may sound harsh, if anyone is obligated to help her now its our mother. i have let her walk on me too many times, and my younger sister agrees with me, and we are tired of watching her dance in and out of her sons life, scarring him more each time. so that is why i have given up on her, the only chance with me she has now is if she shows up with PROOF of sobriety and then works to earn back that trust she destroyed so many times.

ETA: she also abandoned my nephew for months at time with various people during those two years that we never saw her or him, her friends and the relatives of his supposed father have confirmed this to my mom. also, we have reason to believe he was sexually abused and that she allowed it to happen. his whole life she has shown NO CARING for him whatsoever, and as much as i remember of her from my life growing up she was the same way towards me, and she was caught on camera abusing our baby sister when she was only a year old. yea....i have no compassion left for her

[BeastofBears]

that is twice in one week you have shot down what I eat. I can never look at sausage and sushi again.......................

Don't fear the food, Sara! It's just Cleveland sausage and Berkeley sushi! :patriot:

[BeastofBears]

Jlette: I just wanted to say I understand and support you in deciding to concentrate on you and yours instead of throwing good after bad. Sometimes you just have to cut your losses. hug.

[old_soul]

Jlette: I just wanted to say I understand and support you in deciding to concentrate on you and yours instead of throwing good after bad. Sometimes you just have to cut your losses. hug.

Wow

Guess I just don't look at someone who is my own blood and hurting inside as 'throwing good after bad'. Or as cutting 'em loose to 'cut my own losses'.

Wow

'nuff said.

[SaraSidle]

JLette I am so sorry you have to go through that. My remaining family sounds like yours. Only they have written themselves off. Good thing I am close to one brother. It is very sad. You also have a long future ahead of you so you never know what may happen. I know you are very angry about it and you should think about therapy. Just to get rid of that anger. It is not healthy. JMHO sara

[SaraSidle]

Don't fear the food, Sara! It's just Cleveland sausage and Berkeley sushi! :patriot:


LOL Either you are narrowing down my travel choices or will make me vegan yet. The good thing about posting with you is I am never hungry. It is better than watching the food channel and eating. You should start a blog on how awful food is for anyone............LOL

[BeastofBears]

Wow

Guess I just don't look at someone who is my own blood and hurting inside as 'throwing good after bad'. Or as cutting 'em loose to 'cut my own losses'.

Wow

'nuff said.

Well then, I am very glad you have never had the kind of chaotic vortices in your family that will rob everyone else of peace, prosperity, and the hope of a future that some of us have experienced. Some people are creatures of chaos who will either take you down with them, or force you to step back to take care of the ones that you can help, like, say, your own kids. In my case, it was cutting the person off that led them to pull themselves together, and hello, back in my life. You can't always live someone's life for them and fix them. People have to find it within themselves to do it. Sometimes stepping back and cutting off contact is what can do it.

I'm sorry if I offended anyone. I was just speaking from my own experience. :(

[BeastofBears]

LOL Either you are narrowing down my travel choices or will make me vegan yet. The good thing about posting with you is I am never hungry. It is better than watching the food channel and eating. You should start a blog on how awful food is for anyone............LOL

Food is BAD! Become a BREATHARIAN!!!!! :D

[deacon]

Well then, I am very glad you have never had the kind of chaotic vortices in your family that will rob everyone else of peace, prosperity, and the hope of a future that some of us have experienced. Some people are creatures of chaos who will either take you down with them, or force you to step back to take care of the ones that you can help, like, say, your own kids. In my case, it was cutting the person off that led them to pull themselves together, and hello, back in my life. You can't always live someone's life for them and fix them. People have to find it within themselves to do it. Sometimes stepping back and cutting off contact is what can do it.

I'm sorry if I offended anyone. I was just speaking from my own experience. :(

While I have not faced this first hand I have seen parts of my family go through this. What we all have to remember is that we can not decide for another that they need help and force them to take the help. We also can not be responsible for another's happiness and well being. We can offer help but if that person can not or will not accept the fact that they need help there is nothing we can do. We certainly can not let it ruin our lives or that of our family. It is sad, but true.

[old_soul]

~~~~~~~~
BoB, no offense taken by me... Some people are utterly EVIL, but from the first 3,4 sentences of Jlette's sister's story, it's painfully obvious where this all stems from. A child given up by their mother, only to be left with someone who abuses them..all the while wondering why her other siblings are with the mom....9 long fricken years (what's wrong with me? I must be no good. I must deserve this. She must hate me I'm not worth schitt. I am a worthless POS) How can Anyone expect her to treat Her child any differently? Add drugs to the mix, which figures in perfectly. Escape.

This woman was not born evil. She deserves every chance she is given. She is someone who deserves not being given up on. Her name cannot be mixed in with CMA, Couey, Bundy, Gacey, Peterson, and the many others who kill for their own reasons. Much better to think in more meaningful ways with a human heart ~"perhaps one day our efforts will make a difference, and we won't give up on her."

A step cousin of mine was an addict ( mainlining heroin for 20 years) ..Stole, cheated, the whole 9 yards, laying in the fricken gutters, even. Everyone said he was just a POS. After many failed attempts by family (who went through pure hEll) finally it worked..he got help and has been clean for 35 years with a wife and children and happiness. He's very thankful. It's possible. Where would he be if he was written off?

As Sara said earlier, you never know what might happen..cutting losses is just
too easy .

MOO :rose:

[JLette]

~~~~~~~~
BoB, no offense taken by me... Some people are utterly EVIL, but from the first 3,4 sentences of Jlette's sister's story, it's painfully obvious where this all stems from. A child given up by their mother, only to be left with someone who abuses them..all the while wondering why her other siblings are with the mom....9 long fricken years (what's wrong with me? I must be no good. I must deserve this. She must hate me I'm not worth schitt. I am a worthless POS) How can Anyone expect her to treat Her child any differently? Add drugs to the mix, which figures in perfectly. Escape.

This woman was not born evil. She deserves every chance she is given. She is someone who deserves not being given up on. Her name cannot be mixed in with CMA, Couey, Bundy, Gacey, Peterson, and the many others who kill for their own reasons. Much better to think in more meaningful ways with a human heart ~"perhaps one day our efforts will make a difference, and we won't give up on her."

A step cousin of mine was an addict ( mainlining heroin for 20 years) ..Stole, cheated, the whole 9 yards, laying in the fricken gutters, even. Everyone said he was just a POS. After many failed attempts by family (who went through pure hEll) finally it worked..he got help and has been clean for 35 years with a wife and children and happiness. He's very thankful. It's possible. Where would he be if he was written off?

As Sara said earlier, you never know what might happen..cutting losses is just
too easy .

MOO :rose:

exactly what i think when i think of the whole situation! i love my mom, don't get me wrong, but she is directly responsible for my sisters life turning out the way it did. i am not excusing my sister for HER behavior, but at the same time, me and my younger sister are well aware that our mother created this situation. i don't think that she ever thought anything bad would happen to her baby if she gave her to her aunt, but then when she married my dad and i was born that is what drew the very clear line. i don't even think that my sister KNEW we were half sisters until i was 4 and she was living with us. before that she called my parents by first names, and then my mom took her and brought her home to stay with us and she was calling my mom "mom" but still calling my dad "john". and then when we moved the first time my mom became pregnant with my younger sister and then older sister was calling him dad. very confusing for me at the time. another thing that tells me that she was VERY hurt by the whole thing....when she wasn't my sister and living with us, she was just my friend who played with me sometimes, after she became my sister she hated me, was extremely abusive and hateful at every turn, like she looked at me as though i replaced her. that is why it is my mother's responsibility to try and make it right if anyone is going to. i cannot keep subjecting myself to her abuse though.


ETA: HA speak of the devil and she will appear! she was messing with my moms truck in the driveway today and when she saw my hubby looking out the window she took off running up the street. sheesh

[SaraSidle]

Food is BAD! Become a BREATHARIAN!!!!! :D

you just crack me up all the time. i wonder if you can breath in nutrients when you smell food.................don't answer!

[old_soul]

exactly what i think when i think of the whole situation! i love my mom, don't get me wrong, but she is directly responsible for my sisters life turning out the way it did. i am not excusing my sister for HER behavior, but at the same time, me and my younger sister are well aware that our mother created this situation. i don't think that she ever thought anything bad would happen to her baby if she gave her to her aunt, but then when she married my dad and i was born that is what drew the very clear line. i don't even think that my sister KNEW we were half sisters until i was 4 and she was living with us. before that she called my parents by first names, and then my mom took her and brought her home to stay with us and she was calling my mom "mom" but still calling my dad "john". and then when we moved the first time my mom became pregnant with my younger sister and then older sister was calling him dad. very confusing for me at the time. another thing that tells me that she was VERY hurt by the whole thing....when she wasn't my sister and living with us, she was just my friend who played with me sometimes, after she became my sister she hated me, was extremely abusive and hateful at every turn, like she looked at me as though i replaced her. that is why it is my mother's responsibility to try and make it right if anyone is going to. i cannot keep subjecting myself to her abuse though.


ETA: HA speak of the devil and she will appear! she was messing with my moms truck in the driveway today and when she saw my hubby looking out the window she took off running up the street. sheesh

Absolutely heartbreaking for her ~ and you, as a kid. Your sis sounds like a tormented soul..some of us are strong and some just can't see past the pain. I don't know how it could happen, but I pray she finds peace and forgives herself for something that she had no hand in. Just you saying you see it for what it really is, is wonderful..if only she realized what she could have with you, as a sister, and a friend. :beer:

Your 'speak of the Devil' made me laugh! :rose: :rose:

[JLette]

Absolutely heartbreaking for her ~ and you, as a kid. Your sis sounds like a tormented soul..some of us are strong and some just can't see past the pain. I don't know how it could happen, but I pray she finds peace and forgives herself for something that she had no hand in. Just you saying you see it for what it really is, is wonderful..if only she realized what she could have with you, as a sister, and a friend. :beer:

Your 'speak of the Devil' made me laugh! :rose: :rose:

the saddest part of the whole thing from MY perspective is that i can remember what it was like "before" we were "sisters" and then the change afterward was significant. at least my younger sister doesn't have the conflicting memories of her that i do. when she popped back into our lives when she was pregnant i had my first job and while she was staying from us she stole about 120 dollars from me, her 16 year old sister, in order to sneak out of our parents house, ditching her baby on us, and buying meth. whats even SADDER is i was so desperate at THAT point to have my older sister back in my life that if she had asked i probably would have just given her the money, but no..she went through my room until she found it and took it all, it was only about a week later that she disappeared again.

i used to want her to come back, i would have loved to have my big sister that i used to have back, but she makes it impossible. i simply am not strong enough to take anymore of it from her. and NOW she is pulling stuff on my mom because my dad went back on the graveyard shift so in the early morning hours she is over there sneaking around the yard and the garage, a couple weeks ago she tried to break in. the cops can't do anythingbecause by the time they get there she is long gone and no one knows where she lives anymore.

[samanthajane13]

JLette...

I hate to say this, but it sounds like it's time to get a surveillance camera for your Mom & Dad's house if your sister is messing around.

When I had the break with my oldest daughter, I had to have all the locks re-keyed and make braces for all my windows so she couldn't get in, because she had been my pet-sitter while I was hospitalized. When I got home, I know she's been in every drawer, closet and box in my house. Not a single piece of clothing was folded...just balled up and shoved back in the drawers. TONS of my stuff was missing. Clothing, jewelry, etc.

You may be able to get a good deal through Broadview (used to be ADT).

My neighbor used that...I wish I could afford it.

[Nawny]

the saddest part of the whole thing from MY perspective is that i can remember what it was like "before" we were "sisters" and then the change afterward was significant. at least my younger sister doesn't have the conflicting memories of her that i do. when she popped back into our lives when she was pregnant i had my first job and while she was staying from us she stole about 120 dollars from me, her 16 year old sister, in order to sneak out of our parents house, ditching her baby on us, and buying meth. whats even SADDER is i was so desperate at THAT point to have my older sister back in my life that if she had asked i probably would have just given her the money, but no..she went through my room until she found it and took it all, it was only about a week later that she disappeared again.

i used to want her to come back, i would have loved to have my big sister that i used to have back, but she makes it impossible. i simply am not strong enough to take anymore of it from her. and NOW she is pulling stuff on my mom because my dad went back on the graveyard shift so in the early morning hours she is over there sneaking around the yard and the garage, a couple weeks ago she tried to break in. the cops can't do anything because by the time they get there she is long gone and no one knows where she lives anymore.

I've been following this conversation J. I understand your feelings because they are normal. In the 12 step program it is said, that when addicts are helped by significant others, it keeps them out there. Help doesn't help and that's so confusing. Loved ones stand on the perimeter of pity and anger unless they "let go with love"

I spent a lot of years at Al anon meetings. Most times the co dependent is the problem. That's why they are called enablers. The truth is, the addict doesn't want your good advice, warm coat on a cold night, or your tender loving care. They want their drug and they'll sell their mother's oxygen to get it. Are they mean? No. They're just sick and eventually they form a brain path that denies them emotional conscience and that is the most dangerous kind of person.

I've listened to beautiful people speak at podiums telling of the way the addict they love cost them their homes, bank accounts, jobs, friends, hard earned possessions, etc. I've also heard many addicts thank their loves ones for cutting them off and letting them hit bottom. The wisdom of AA teaches us to "Let go and let God" That has been the mantra from the start. If the program didn't work, 99 million people wouldn't be in the program. You can find an AA meeting in China if you needed it. It's about addicts helping addicts. But there are always those who join the program for the season, not the reason. They use honest recovering addicts for money, rides, meals, a place to sleep. It's very scary. Addicts are very, very, very resourceful.

One of the most disturbing things I ever heard in Al anon was, "If you let go, there's a chance the addict may get clean, if not, "If they're lucky they'll die."

So try to " let go and let God"

My heart goes with you:rose:

[JLette]

I've been following this conversation J. I understand your feelings because they are normal. In the 12 step program it is said, that when addicts are helped by significant others, it keeps them out there. Help doesn't help and that's so confusing. Loved ones stand on the perimeter of pity and anger unless they "let go with love"

I spent a lot of years at Al anon meetings. Most times the co dependent is the problem. That's why they are called enablers. The truth is, the addict doesn't want your good advice, warm coat on a cold night, or your tender loving care. They want their drug and they'll sell their mother's oxygen to get it. Are they mean? No. They're just sick and eventually they form a brain path that denies them emotional conscience and that is the most dangerous kind of person.

I've listened to beautiful people speak at podiums telling of the way the addict they love cost them their homes, bank accounts, jobs, friends, hard earned possessions, etc. I've also heard many addicts thank their loves ones for cutting them off and letting them hit bottom. The wisdom of AA teaches us to "Let go and let God" That has been the mantra from the start. If the program didn't work, 99 million people wouldn't be in the program. You can find an AA meeting in China if you needed it. It's about addicts helping addicts. But there are always those who join the program for the season, not the reason. They use honest recovering addicts for money, rides, meals, a place to sleep. It's very scary. Addicts are very, very, very resourceful.

One of the most disturbing things I ever heard in Al anon was, "If you let go, there's a chance the addict may get clean, if not, "If they're lucky they'll die."

So try to " let go and let God"

My heart goes with you:rose:


i used to watch that show Intervention, back before it seemed to get a little staged, and i heard that same thing on an episode of that. frightening and sad but true.

[Nawny]

i used to watch that show Intervention, back before it seemed to get a little staged, and i heard that same thing on an episode of that. frightening and sad but true.

I don't watch that program. I used to go to Al anon meetings and have sat through many lectures about the subject. If you ever feel too upset to deal with the thoughts and the stress, try a meeting. It helps.

Big hugs.

[old_soul]

i used to watch that show Intervention, back before it seemed to get a little staged, and i heard that same thing on an episode of that. frightening and sad but true.

I have watched it too..sometimes it was utterly unbelievable. I think AA is a wonderful thing, and has helped millions. That being said, I don't feel that it's the end all answer for a drug addict, that type of 'rehab & therapy'.

What's good for some is not always good for everyone....I think it's more of an individual basis, what is good for an individual addict ~ as more intense psychotherapy is sometimes necessary. :shrug:

Since your sister started being problematic early, was there ever a point where she got into rehab or therapy? Just wonderin.... (it sounded like she hadn't)...

Samanthajane has a good point about that video....

:rose:

[JLette]

I have watched it too..sometimes it was utterly unbelievable. I think AA is a wonderful thing, and has helped millions. That being said, I don't feel that it's the end all answer for a drug addict, that type of 'rehab & therapy'.

What's good for some is not always good for everyone....I think it's more of an individual basis, what is good for an individual addict ~ as more intense psychotherapy is sometimes necessary. :shrug:

Since your sister started being problematic early, was there ever a point where she got into rehab or therapy? Just wonderin.... (it sounded like she hadn't)...

Samanthajane has a good point about that video....

:rose:

well....here is what i know from what my mother has told me so i don't know how reliable the information really is anymore.

the allegations of abuse against my great aunt were supposedly made up for attention, not so sure anymore considering how she ended up.

when we had to move from sacramento to rohnert park it was because sis had pissed off some gang members at school apparently.

we had to move from rohnert park to here because of various incidents involving my sister and the neighborhood boys.

then we only lived here for about 2 months before she ran away and my mom was unable to get her back home. we really don't know where she was or what she was doing from 1992-1999 at all, so no telling what happened really.

i doubt she ever voluntarily went into any therapy or rehab program.

[Nawny]

well....here is what i know from what my mother has told me so i don't know how reliable the information really is anymore.

the allegations of abuse against my great aunt were supposedly made up for attention, not so sure anymore considering how she ended up.

when we had to move from sacramento to rohnert park it was because sis had pissed off some gang members at school apparently.

we had to move from rohnert park to here because of various incidents involving my sister and the neighborhood boys.

then we only lived here for about 2 months before she ran away and my mom was unable to get her back home. we really don't know where she was or what she was doing from 1992-1999 at all, so no telling what happened really.

i doubt she ever voluntarily went into any therapy or rehab program.

I know a guy who had been in 13 rehabs that looked like country clubs. At the cost of 30K for 30 days each time. Blue Cross used to pay for it. (The reason why they don't anymore) He used the place to dry out, so he could start all over again. os is correct. It depends on the person.

I've met people who had no money and ended up getting clean in dumpy rehabs like Salvation Army. No country club! More like prison with a chapel and each one of them were given jobs to do every day, like scrubbing bathrooms. They wore hand me down clothes and were grateful for that. They decided that the bare minimum was better than the weeds, sleeping in junk yard cars, and many of them got strong enough to get their children back from the state and start a new life. Some of them got educated and became the mentors for other addicts. It's out of our hands.

Your sister has learned to survive out there. Childhood crap is passed its sell by date. We all had childhood stuff. We know great people who have made this world a better place, and they had childhood stuff too. Stay strong J and give your children a chance to have a happy mother. You're batting 1000 by staying away from the menacing fallout of your sister's life. IMO. Your kids don't need it. You didn't need it either. We're powerless over someone else's addiction. That's a fact. ;)

[JLette]

lol i sicken myself....my hubby bought a pc game a while back and it game with a free trial for World of Warcraft. i promised myself i would NEVER be that nerd, and look at what i gone and done!!! for 14 days i am going to be that nerd! lmao

i have been breakin promises to myself left and right, like i promised myself i would never be a Twilighter and look at me now....sheesh no will power :rolleyes:

[BeastofBears]

lol i sicken myself....my hubby bought a pc game a while back and it game with a free trial for World of Warcraft. i promised myself i would NEVER be that nerd, and look at what i gone and done!!! for 14 days i am going to be that nerd! lmao

i have been breakin promises to myself left and right, like i promised myself i would never be a Twilighter and look at me now....sheesh no will power :rolleyes:

Don't worry about being a nerd, Jlette! It happens to the best of us. I, for example, can recite even the alien dialogue in Star Wars. *Soom pi ta ley, Jabba whanincheekhoba hatani wainawi wainoweska. eeechani eechuzu!* Stuff like this just makes you a dorks perfect woman! So you are a hottie to 50% of the male population....just not the 50% you want, lol!

[JLette]

Don't worry about being a nerd, Jlette! It happens to the best of us. I, for example, can recite even the alien dialogue in Star Wars. *Soom pi ta ley, Jabba whanincheekhoba hatani wainawi wainoweska. eeechani eechuzu!* Stuff like this just makes you a dorks perfect woman! So you are a hottie to 50% of the male population....just not the 50% you want, lol!

lmao. guess its good for me i married a dude who is just as nerdy in different ways huh :beer:

[BeastofBears]

lmao. guess its good for me i married a dude who is just as nerdy in different ways huh :beer:

That's why our nerds love us, we're in no position to be critical! Mine is a Trekkie and NASA wonk.

[SaraSidle]

That's why our nerds love us, we're in no position to be critical! Mine is a Trekkie and NASA wonk.

Oh Maannn I am posting with nerds????:eek::chicken::chicken::chicken:

[BeastofBears]

Oh Maannn I am posting with nerds????:eek::chicken::chicken::chicken:

Sorry, Sara! Don't want to harsh your coolness, lol! You can be the group cheerleader, okay? Or jock if you prefer :)

[SaraSidle]

Sorry, Sara! Don't want to harsh your coolness, lol! You can be the group cheerleader, okay? Or jock if you prefer :)

LOL such choices..... I will be an indie thanks

[Nawny]

This is the Danny season. :( When November approaches, I try so hard to stay calm and remember all that I have and am grateful for. I've done well the past few years accepting something I cannot change. But this year, (and I don't know why) I found myself in pieces.

As if he died just yesterday, I fell apart. I miss him so much. For the duration of last week when November 9th hit me with the memory of those two plain clothes officers when they flashed their badges at me when I opened my door, what they said and how I felt, calling my other 3 children to tell them they lost their brother, the wake, his shirts that hung in the laundry room and how I used them to dry my tears... all of it hit me like a mac truck.

Finally gator called me and I heard myself. I didn't want to be that woman who felt all the stages of grief at once. I heard the bitterness in my own voice. That's not who I am. I'm stronger than that. I'm nawny who plays with children and makes cookies, and gives cozy hugs to anyone who doesn't run away from me. I'm a peaceful person. I love everyone. No one ever saw me cynical. This last week I've felt cynical and damned. I didn't know what to do with it. No one else could either. I'm the matriarch of this family and preached "there are no problems only solutions." Everyone depends on me. Death is permanent, there is no solution for death. So Icry for my son and my sister. Those who love me have empty hands and I am sad for that. I don't want to burden anyone.

Poor Poppa got a ration of hell last week. What do I have for that? A dozen pink roses and an offer for a brand new kitchen, hugs, kindness, and extraordinary grace. What did I give back? A major tune up. I was ruthless. I feel worse for it.

Get well soon Gator.. Thanks for calling, I'm sorry I was in such a mood. I am not the only one with problems, the world is full of them.
I feel like a rotten cookie. I have to wait this out and channel the other nawny. I'm sorry pals. Thanks for listening. I need a tune up now. :o

I'm going to Dave's Market today, to buy what I need to make Poppa a nice birthday. I'll go see my weebles later. They are the stars and the innocent angels that I'd like to believe Danny sent to my life. It's all good I suppose.
:confused:

I'll be around.

[SaraSidle]

Nawny I am so sorry you have had to be in that place. it is so painful. I do not think we have control over it though. a grieving stage that will pass.
I know reaching out and talking will help and we are here and love you.
always feel free to rant and cry to us. love sara (lots of hugs)

[beemer]

Oh my dear Nawny-my heart breaks for you :rose: I'm glad u shared. I wish i could take your pain away. It has to be the worst journey life can hand to have suffered the loss of your dear Danny. I dont know what to say except i cried when i read your post-for you and for me. I can identify with everything you are feeling right now. I'm sure your pain is a much bigger magnitude as you lost a son. As you know mine was my best friend of 42 years. I didn't know what to do with my anger-anger like you is not something i feel often and i really didn't recognize it or really know what to do with it. I plodded along in life and along came another death 3 months later of a client i had for 15 years. She was a dear-crazy as a loon but made me laugh-she was a joy. She didn't suffer with her cancer as my friend had horribly. My friend was only 48 and this lady 65. I walked into her room and sat. Told her it was ok to go and with 3 breaths she was gone. It was a Hallmark moment,soft music,no pain. I took from that my lesson was to be not all go so horribly-look for the positive. Thought i had dealt. A few months later my father in law became ill with cancer so his journey and ours began. Being European there was to be no outside help other than a nurse checking in once every few days and the Doc. It was a 2-3 month hands on care 24/7 with all of us taking turns. Cant remember the time frame it's so blurry now. We were all exhausted but wanted to fulfill his wish to die at home. More anger seemed to surface for me well into it. It became huge and i just shoved it down. FIL became a saint in my MIL's eyes. She was not really deserving of that but it was how i felt. In early days he was a very abusive man. mellowed over the years and that was the man i only knew and loved. She would sometimes scream at us to go outside in the dead of winter she wanted to be alone with him. Today i get it then i didn't. My hubby got the wrath of my grief after we buried him. I sought out some counselling with an old colleague who i respected and knew me well. I really learned alot about the grief journey and how this was the first time in my life something rocked me to my core. I never knew what to do with anger because i never really saw it growing up. Always said what you say-there are others worse off suck it up. I learned that i dont have to suck up the painful things. Feel it recognize it and the biggy-allow myself to have it. I can talk about her now without tears springing to my eye's. I have a special book on my coffee table filled with pics growing up.letters and xmas cards. Every so often i sit and look. It was hard to deal with the fact that i was hurting my hubby with words i had never spoken to him and i wasn't being so good to myself either. I'm glad u have Gator to be there too. keep talking thats the only thing i can offer and just know it's ok to feel what your feeling. You have suffered the greatest loss in life that being a child. My heart goes out to you Nawny and know you are luved here and can share anytime you need to :rose:

[Nawny]

Oh my dear Nawny-my heart breaks for you :rose: I'm glad u shared. I wish i could take your pain away. It has to be the worst journey life can hand to have suffered the loss of your dear Danny. I dont know what to say except i cried when i read your post-for you and for me. I can identify with everything you are feeling right now. I'm sure your pain is a much bigger magnitude as you lost a son. As you know mine was my best friend of 42 years. I didn't know what to do with my anger-anger like you is not something i feel often and i really didn't recognize it or really know what to do with it. I plodded along in life and along came another death 3 months later of a client i had for 15 years. She was a dear-crazy as a loon but made me laugh-she was a joy. She didn't suffer with her cancer as my friend had horribly. My friend was only 48 and this lady 65. I walked into her room and sat. Told her it was ok to go and with 3 breaths she was gone. It was a Hallmark moment,soft music,no pain. I took from that my lesson was to be not all go so horribly-look for the positive. Thought i had dealt. A few months later my father in law became ill with cancer so his journey and ours began. Being European there was to be no outside help other than a nurse checking in once every few days and the Doc. It was a 2-3 month hands on care 24/7 with all of us taking turns. Cant remember the time frame it's so blurry now. We were all exhausted but wanted to fulfill his wish to die at home. More anger seemed to surface for me well into it. It became huge and i just shoved it down. FIL became a saint in my MIL's eyes. She was not really deserving of that but it was how i felt. In early days he was a very abusive man. mellowed over the years and that was the man i only knew and loved. She would sometimes scream at us to go outside in the dead of winter she wanted to be alone with him. Today i get it then i didn't. My hubby got the wrath of my grief after we buried him. I sought out some counselling with an old colleague who i respected and knew me well. I really learned alot about the grief journey and how this was the first time in my life something rocked me to my core. I never knew what to do with anger because i never really saw it growing up. Always said what you say-there are others worse off suck it up. I learned that i dont have to suck up the painful things. Feel it recognize it and the biggy-allow myself to have it. I can talk about her now without tears springing to my eye's. I have a special book on my coffee table filled with pics growing up.letters and xmas cards. Every so often i sit and look. It was hard to deal with the fact that i was hurting my hubby with words i had never spoken to him and i wasn't being so good to myself either. I'm glad u have Gator to be there too. keep talking thats the only thing i can offer and just know it's ok to feel what your feeling. You have suffered the greatest loss in life that being a child. My heart goes out to you Nawny and know you are luved here and can share anytime you need to :rose:

Thank you my precious friend, sniff. Let's go punch Cindy Anthony in the mouth. :(

[Nawny]

Nawny I am so sorry you have had to be in that place. it is so painful. I do not think we have control over it though. a grieving stage that will pass.
I know reaching out and talking will help and we are here and love you.
always feel free to rant and cry to us. love sara (lots of hugs)

Thank you so much sara..for letting me be a whinebagger today. You always care. Big hugs.. I'll get through it somehow. I should go to the childrens hospital and give 12 children who are suffering one of Poppa's pink roses. That's the way I can transfer this energy of mine. Or take some old coats I don't fit in anymore and give them to the homeless. I have to do something! Of course I can always send Casey Anthony some nails to chew. No that's bad.. :punch:

Thank you .. I'll be okay.. :seeya:



:rose:

[beemer]

Thank you my precious friend, sniff. Let's go punch Cindy Anthony in the mouth. :(

Your welcome my dear friend :rose: Ya lets-and while were at it kick her in the shins too ;) Not that it would knock any sense into her but we sure would feel better. Good to hear tho Liar is being denied her fave snacks. I cant get over the irony of it all. She's in jail but technically ripping off the jail :shrug: How many ponytail holders does one need. Not like she needs to color coordinate now :beer:

[old_soul]

This is the Danny season. :( When November approaches, I try so hard to stay calm and remember all that I have and am grateful for. I've done well the past few years accepting something I cannot change. But this year, (and I don't know why) I found myself in pieces.

As if he died just yesterday, I fell apart. I miss him so much. For the duration of last week when November 9th hit me with the memory of those two plain clothes officers when they flashed their badges at me when I opened my door, what they said and how I felt, calling my other 3 children to tell them they lost their brother, the wake, his shirts that hung in the laundry room and how I used them to dry my tears... all of it hit me like a mac truck.

Finally gator called me and I heard myself. I didn't want to be that woman who felt all the stages of grief at once. I heard the bitterness in my own voice. That's not who I am. I'm stronger than that. I'm nawny who plays with children and makes cookies, and gives cozy hugs to anyone who doesn't run away from me. I'm a peaceful person. I love everyone. No one ever saw me cynical. This last week I've felt cynical and damned. I didn't know what to do with it. No one else could either. I'm the matriarch of this family and preached "there are no problems only solutions." Everyone depends on me. Death is permanent, there is no solution for death. So Icry for my son and my sister. Those who love me have empty hands and I am sad for that. I don't want to burden anyone.

Poor Poppa got a ration of hell last week. What do I have for that? A dozen pink roses and an offer for a brand new kitchen, hugs, kindness, and extraordinary grace. What did I give back? A major tune up. I was ruthless. I feel worse for it.

Get well soon Gator.. Thanks for calling, I'm sorry I was in such a mood. I am not the only one with problems, the world is full of them.
I feel like a rotten cookie. I have to wait this out and channel the other nawny. I'm sorry pals. Thanks for listening. I need a tune up now. :o

I'm going to Dave's Market today, to buy what I need to make Poppa a nice birthday. I'll go see my weebles later. They are the stars and the innocent angels that I'd like to believe Danny sent to my life. It's all good I suppose.
:confused:

I'll be around.

~~~Il vero amico si riconosce nel momento del bisogno~~~
(rough translation: True friends are there in the moments we need them) :)

You are Woman.
You are strong.
(our Black Sheep Club, eh)
You have endured.
Heal.
Live.
Laugh.
Love.
You are strong.
You are Woman.
:rose:

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:rose:Gator

[Nawny]

Excerpt from "WHY WHISPER"


Danny’s Favorite Story

One day, when Danny was fifteen years old and acting out some non-conformist behaviors, I asked him to lie down on his bed for a while to do some thinking. I placed a headset on his head, connected to a small tape player, which held an audio recording of Richard Bach’s Jonathan Livingston Seagull and asked him to listen to the story. I hoped I could perform the miracle of reprogramming his unyielding mind set.

A passage from Jonathan Livingston Seagull
By Richard Bach

It was morning, and the new sun sparkled gold across the ripples of a gentle sea. A mile from shore a fishing boat chummed the water. And the word for Breakfast Flock flashed through the air, till a crowd of a thousand seagulls came to dodge and fight for bits of food. It was another busy day beginning.

But way off alone, out by himself beyond boat and shore, Jonathan Livingston Seagull was practicing. A hundred feet in the sky he lowered his webbed feet, lifted his beak, and strained to hold a painful hard twisting curve through his wings.

The curve meant that he would fly slowly, and now he slowed until the wind was a whisper in his face, until the ocean stood still beneath him. He narrowed his eyes in fierce concentration, held his breath, forced one... single... more... inch...of... curve...Then his feathers ruffled, he stalled and fell. Seagulls, as you know, never falter, never stall. To stall in the air is for them disgrace and it is dishonor.
But Jonathan Livingston Seagull, unashamed, stretching his wings again in that trembling hard curve - slowing, slowing, and stalling once more - was no ordinary bird. Most gulls don’t bother to learn more than the simplest facts of flight -how to get from shore to food and back again. For most gulls, it is not flying that matters, but eating. For this gull, though, it was not eating that mattered, but flight.

More than anything else, Jonathan Livingston Seagull loved to fly. This kind of thinking, he found, is not the way to make one self popular with other birds. Even his parents were dismayed as Jonathan spent whole days alone, making hundreds of low-level glides, experimenting.

From a very young age, Danny showed me that he was not going to walk to the beat of anyone’s drum but his own. Shortly before he died, I asked him why he refused to stop arguing with tradition.

He stated simply, “Because I want to fly higher, Mom.”

And so he did. And I would give my life for one more look at him.


Thank you for listening my friends. Meet Danny.

http://i36.tinypic.com/27x1oya.jpg My beautiful Danny.:rose:

His wedding day 1999, and I can still hear him laughing when we danced...

http://i37.tinypic.com/334nee0.jpg

[SaraSidle]

Thank you so much sara..for letting me be a whinebagger today. You always care. Big hugs.. I'll get through it somehow. I should go to the childrens hospital and give 12 children who are suffering one of Poppa's pink roses. That's the way I can transfer this energy of mine. Or take some old coats I don't fit in anymore and give them to the homeless. I have to do something! Of course I can always send Casey Anthony some nails to chew. No that's bad.. :punch:

Thank you .. I'll be okay.. :seeya:



:rose:


I know you will be fine. I have those times too. Most of us who have lost someone do. I have no doubt. I had a bad weekend due to anniversary of my mom dying and a very sweet lady here passed away. It was too much for a couple of days. We noticed you missing. We worried and we are here.
Giving is good. Weebles are good too. give popa a big kiss and hug.
more hugs for you sara


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[Nawny]

http://tinypic.com/r/351gxeu/4


Danny and our precious Kayla blowing bubbles a month before he passed away.. I know he's blowing bubbles with the children over there.. I hope he took Caylee's hand and makes her laugh. :rose:

[Nawny]

I know you will be fine. I have those times too. Most of us who have lost someone do. I have no doubt. I had a bad weekend due to anniversary of my mom dying and a very sweet lady here passed away. It was too much for a couple of days. We noticed you missing. We worried and we are here.
Giving is good. Weebles are good too. give popa a big kiss and hug.
more hugs for you sara


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Anniversaries are so haunting aren't they sara? Ooof! For all of you who miss someone, big hugs!

I'm off to the market.. I'll be okay.. now I don't feel so alone. Prayers for your mom:rose:

[samanthajane13]

Oh, Nawny!!!

I'm so sorry your having a hard time over Danny's death.

It was 3 or 4 months after Grandpa passed that it finally hit me. I was so busy making sure that Mom, Jenny, and Katey were doing okay that I went into over-drive-being "the strong one".

Finally, one day I had a regular doctor's appointment, and I told her that Grandpa had died. She asked if I was okay...was I dealing with my grief...did I need any meds to get me through...did I want a referral to a grief counselor, the whole nine yards.

I told her that I really hadn't had TIME to grief at that point because I'd been taking care of Mom and the girls, but I said that I knew it would hit me when my guard was down, and if I needed anything, I'd give her a call to let her know.

I left her office and was driving to the Cattaraugus Res. to pick up cigarettes and fill my gas tank.

I'd gotten maybe 2 miles down the road, and a song came on the radio.

"When I Get Where I'm Going" by Brad Paisly & Dolly Parton.

Instant melt-down!!!!

Bawling like a child, snotting at the nose, the WORKS. I kept driving, figuring that if I pulled over and a cop asked if I needed help, and saw me like that, he'd shuttle me off to the laughing-academy.

So I kept driving.

About 20 miles later, I had to stop for a light, and I looked up to see a pair of golden eagles circling in play, just wheeling through the sky.

Flashback time-

Now-when Grandpa was in the ER after he had his stroke 5 years earlier, I was digging through my purse to see if I could find one of my many Rosary rings. Those little "finger Rosaries" that you hold like a "worry stone". They weren't there, but I wanted something to put in Grandpa's hand...for comfort. Grandpa said the Rosary every night.

The only thing I could find was a carved bone EAGLE that one of my Native American friends had given to me.

I slipped the eagle into Grandpa's hand.

To the Native Americans, Eagle is a messenger of Gods...much like the dove is the messenger of God in Christianity.

I figured it may not be a Rosary, but at that moment God wasn't going to quibble over semantics. And Eagle is HIS Creation, so it was all good.

Grandpa had a messenger to relay his need and prayers to God.

The next morning, we went to the room Grandpa was in, and he was SITTING UP. TALKING!!!

I said to him that Eagle must have gooten the message through, and he said "What Eagle????"

It was GONE.

Not in the ER, not in the room, not in the bedding.

Left a report with lost and found. Never heard a word.

At that point, I figured that Eagle had done his job and gone on his way, and if someone else found him, he'd help them, too.

Flash forward to me at the stop light, snotty nosed, watching the eagles play.

It was a SIGN.

I was cackling like a LOON.

Message received!!

Grandpa was HOME and at peace.

I HAD to pull over now. I was laughing so damned hard that I couldn't drive!!! If the cops stopped to check on me now, they really WOULD lock my crazy azz up. Siting in the car all by myself laughing hysterically...

Now, I'm not saying that I don't miss him, and that I never shed tears for him anymore, but they're tears of comfort.

I miss him more than anyone I've lost before or since. We had a special relationship in life. We shared things the rest of the family would never get...gardening, working in the basement together, SHOPPING.

GOD-that man could SHOP!!

I see a picture-printed or on the movie theater of my mind, and the tears sometimes flow. When I'm frustrated with a chore that I know he'd be able to help me with, they flow. When I remember my childhood in his home, and all the good times, they flow.

But that's okay. I wouldn't trade those memories or tears for a million dollars.

I had passed through EVERY DAMNED STAGE OF GRIEF in less than an hour that day.

The next time I saw my doctor, I told her about my wild ride...and she said she's glad I had that time and those memories, and she knew I'd be okay.

I hope that you reach that stage of piece someday soon, honey!!

[SaraSidle]

Excerpt from "WHY WHISPER"


Danny’s Favorite Story

One day, when Danny was fifteen years old and acting out some non-conformist behaviors, I asked him to lie down on his bed for a while to do some thinking. I placed a headset on his head, connected to a small tape player, which held an audio recording of Richard Bach’s Jonathan Livingston Seagull and asked him to listen to the story. I hoped I could perform the miracle of reprogramming his unyielding mind set.

A passage from Jonathan Livingston Seagull
By Richard Bach

It was morning, and the new sun sparkled gold across the ripples of a gentle sea. A mile from shore a fishing boat chummed the water. And the word for Breakfast Flock flashed through the air, till a crowd of a thousand seagulls came to dodge and fight for bits of food. It was another busy day beginning.

But way off alone, out by himself beyond boat and shore, Jonathan Livingston Seagull was practicing. A hundred feet in the sky he lowered his webbed feet, lifted his beak, and strained to hold a painful hard twisting curve through his wings.

The curve meant that he would fly slowly, and now he slowed until the wind was a whisper in his face, until the ocean stood still beneath him. He narrowed his eyes in fierce concentration, held his breath, forced one... single... more... inch...of... curve...Then his feathers ruffled, he stalled and fell. Seagulls, as you know, never falter, never stall. To stall in the air is for them disgrace and it is dishonor.
But Jonathan Livingston Seagull, unashamed, stretching his wings again in that trembling hard curve - slowing, slowing, and stalling once more - was no ordinary bird. Most gulls don’t bother to learn more than the simplest facts of flight -how to get from shore to food and back again. For most gulls, it is not flying that matters, but eating. For this gull, though, it was not eating that mattered, but flight.

More than anything else, Jonathan Livingston Seagull loved to fly. This kind of thinking, he found, is not the way to make one self popular with other birds. Even his parents were dismayed as Jonathan spent whole days alone, making hundreds of low-level glides, experimenting.

From a very young age, Danny showed me that he was not going to walk to the beat of anyone’s drum but his own. Shortly before he died, I asked him why he refused to stop arguing with tradition.

He stated simply, “Because I want to fly higher, Mom.”

And so he did. And I would give my life for one more look at him.


Thank you for listening my friends. Meet Danny.

http://i36.tinypic.com/27x1oya.jpg My beautiful Danny.:rose:

His wedding day 1999, and I can still hear him laughing when we danced...

http://i37.tinypic.com/334nee0.jpg

Just beautiful........beautiful story and beautiful pictures. I feel your ache.
sara

[beemer]

Thanks for sharing Danny with us Nawny-what a handsome man. You look lovely too in the photo. You must let us know when your book is out. The ex certs are just beautiful. You will reach many :rose:

[samanthajane13]

Grab your hankie, Nawny.

I'm taking you for a ride, and you're gonna need it.

But remember-TEARS HEAL.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6Zfx5qra_g


When I get where I'm going
on the far side of the sky.
The first thing that I'm gonna do
Is spread my wings and fly.

I'm gonna land beside a lion,
and run my fingers through his mane.
Or I might find out what it's like
To ride a drop of rain

(Chorus:)
Yeah when I get where I'm going,
there'll be only happy tears.
I will shed the sins and struggles,
I have carried all these years.
And I'll leave my heart wide open,
I will love and have no fear.
Yeah when I get where I'm going,
Don't cry for me down here.

I'm gonna walk with my grandaddy,
and he'll match me step for step,
and I'll tell him how I missed him,
every minute since he left.
Then I'll hug his neck.

(Chorus)

So much pain and so much darkness,
in this world we stumble through.
All these questions, I can't answer,
so much work to do.

But when I get where I'm going,
and I see my Maker's face.
I'll stand forever in the light,
of His amazing grace.
Yeah when I get where I'm going,
Yeah when I get where I'm going,
there'll be only happy tears.
Hallelujah!
I will love and have no fear.
When I get where I'm going.
Yeah when I get where I'm going.


Here's one for Danny-from what you've said, he was a very beautiful, but misunderstood young man...and when you talk about him, this song comes to mind.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dipFMJckZOM


Starry, starry night
Paint your palette blue and gray
Look out on a summer's day
With eyes that know the darkness in my soul
Shadows on the hills
Sketch the trees and the daffodils
Catch the breeze and the winter chills
In colors on the snowy linen land

Now I understand
What you tried to say to me
How you suffered for your sanity
How you tried to set them free
They would not listen they did not know how
Perhaps they'll listen now

Starry, starry night
Flaming flowers that brightly blaze
Swirling clouds in violet haze
Reflecting Vincent's eyes of China blue
Colors changing hue
Morning fields of amber grain
Weathered faces lined in pain
Are soothed beneath the artist's loving hands

Now I understand
What you tried to say to me
How you suffered for your sanity
How you tried to set them free
They would not listen they did not know how
Perhaps they'll listen now

For they could not love you
But still your love was true
And when no hope was left in sight
On that starry, starry night
You took your life as lovers often do
But I could have told you Vincent
This world was never meant for one as
beautiful as you

Starry, starry night
Portraits hung in empty halls
Frameless heads on nameless walls
With eyes that watch the world and can't forget
Like the strangers that you've met
The ragged men in ragged clothes
A silver thorn on a bloody rose
Lie crushed and broken on the virgin snow

Now I think I know
What you tried to say to me
How you suffered for your sanity
How you tried to set them free
They would not listen they're not listening still
Perhaps they never will

[SaraSidle]

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[beemer]

thats cure sara :beer: And Nawny knows her cawfee ;)

[BeastofBears]

Excerpt from "WHY WHISPER"


Danny’s Favorite Story

One day, when Danny was fifteen years old and acting out some non-conformist behaviors, I asked him to lie down on his bed for a while to do some thinking. I placed a headset on his head, connected to a small tape player, which held an audio recording of Richard Bach’s Jonathan Livingston Seagull and asked him to listen to the story. I hoped I could perform the miracle of reprogramming his unyielding mind set.

A passage from Jonathan Livingston Seagull
By Richard Bach

It was morning, and the new sun sparkled gold across the ripples of a gentle sea. A mile from shore a fishing boat chummed the water. And the word for Breakfast Flock flashed through the air, till a crowd of a thousand seagulls came to dodge and fight for bits of food. It was another busy day beginning.

But way off alone, out by himself beyond boat and shore, Jonathan Livingston Seagull was practicing. A hundred feet in the sky he lowered his webbed feet, lifted his beak, and strained to hold a painful hard twisting curve through his wings.

The curve meant that he would fly slowly, and now he slowed until the wind was a whisper in his face, until the ocean stood still beneath him. He narrowed his eyes in fierce concentration, held his breath, forced one... single... more... inch...of... curve...Then his feathers ruffled, he stalled and fell. Seagulls, as you know, never falter, never stall. To stall in the air is for them disgrace and it is dishonor.
But Jonathan Livingston Seagull, unashamed, stretching his wings again in that trembling hard curve - slowing, slowing, and stalling once more - was no ordinary bird. Most gulls don’t bother to learn more than the simplest facts of flight -how to get from shore to food and back again. For most gulls, it is not flying that matters, but eating. For this gull, though, it was not eating that mattered, but flight.

More than anything else, Jonathan Livingston Seagull loved to fly. This kind of thinking, he found, is not the way to make one self popular with other birds. Even his parents were dismayed as Jonathan spent whole days alone, making hundreds of low-level glides, experimenting.

From a very young age, Danny showed me that he was not going to walk to the beat of anyone’s drum but his own. Shortly before he died, I asked him why he refused to stop arguing with tradition.

He stated simply, “Because I want to fly higher, Mom.”

And so he did. And I would give my life for one more look at him.


Thank you for listening my friends. Meet Danny.

http://i36.tinypic.com/27x1oya.jpg My beautiful Danny.:rose:

His wedding day 1999, and I can still hear him laughing when we danced...

http://i37.tinypic.com/334nee0.jpg

Beautiful pictures and story, Nawny. I feel honored that you share with us. All I can say is I'm sorry for your week. I know how it is to have it hit out of nowhere. I lost my dad 28 years ago, and sometimes it just feels so recent I should be able to call him to watch the kids. Who he's never met, of course. But losing someone who was really yours, that always feels like yesterday, because it is just wrong. :rose:

[SaraSidle]

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Comfort Food---Yessssssssss

[deacon]

This is the Danny season. :( When November approaches, I try so hard to stay calm and remember all that I have and am grateful for. I've done well the past few years accepting something I cannot change. But this year, (and I don't know why) I found myself in pieces.

As if he died just yesterday, I fell apart. I miss him so much. For the duration of last week when November 9th hit me with the memory of those two plain clothes officers when they flashed their badges at me when I opened my door, what they said and how I felt, calling my other 3 children to tell them they lost their brother, the wake, his shirts that hung in the laundry room and how I used them to dry my tears... all of it hit me like a mac truck.

Finally gator called me and I heard myself. I didn't want to be that woman who felt all the stages of grief at once. I heard the bitterness in my own voice. That's not who I am. I'm stronger than that. I'm nawny who plays with children and makes cookies, and gives cozy hugs to anyone who doesn't run away from me. I'm a peaceful person. I love everyone. No one ever saw me cynical. This last week I've felt cynical and damned. I didn't know what to do with it. No one else could either. I'm the matriarch of this family and preached "there are no problems only solutions." Everyone depends on me. Death is permanent, there is no solution for death. So Icry for my son and my sister. Those who love me have empty hands and I am sad for that. I don't want to burden anyone.

Poor Poppa got a ration of hell last week. What do I have for that? A dozen pink roses and an offer for a brand new kitchen, hugs, kindness, and extraordinary grace. What did I give back? A major tune up. I was ruthless. I feel worse for it.

Get well soon Gator.. Thanks for calling, I'm sorry I was in such a mood. I am not the only one with problems, the world is full of them.
I feel like a rotten cookie. I have to wait this out and channel the other nawny. I'm sorry pals. Thanks for listening. I need a tune up now. :o

I'm going to Dave's Market today, to buy what I need to make Poppa a nice birthday. I'll go see my weebles later. They are the stars and the innocent angels that I'd like to believe Danny sent to my life. It's all good I suppose.
:confused:

I'll be around.

Still praying for you, friend.

[SaraSidle]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7EYAUazLI9k&feature=related

I love to watch this when I need to smile..........sara I watch it full screen too

[Nawny]

Just beautiful........beautiful story and beautiful pictures. I feel your ache.
sara

Thank you our sweet Sara.. Sometimes I play that song on the piano we danced to on his wedding day. It starts so slowly and then stronger and stronger. Danny Boy is an Irish song and he was part Irish. When I leave the piano, I feel comforted somehow. That song reminds me that so many have had to say goodbye early to their children. We endure. (Because of people like you and so many here who have lived out such incredible grief and still reach their hands out to me. I am blessed) We all endure. I can't go the way Warm&Cozy did. It would only cause more people to feel the great sorrow. I know Danny wants me to carry on and smile for the love around me, even his.

Thank you again. Thank you all.

Well I'll tell ya later what I'm cooking for Poppa's birthday party tomorrow night. I wish you all could be here. He will be 67 years young. :) My family will make me smile. They always do.

[Nawny]

Beautiful pictures and story, Nawny. I feel honored that you share with us. All I can say is I'm sorry for your week. I know how it is to have it hit out of nowhere. I lost my dad 28 years ago, and sometimes it just feels so recent I should be able to call him to watch the kids. Who he's never met, of course. But losing someone who was really yours, that always feels like yesterday, because it is just wrong. :rose:

Thank you L. Have a nawny hug.

OOXOX

[SaraSidle]

Thank you our sweet Sara.. Sometimes I play that song on the piano we danced to on his wedding day. It starts so slowly and then stronger and stronger. Danny Boy is an Irish song and he was part Irish. When I leave the piano, I feel comforted somehow. That song reminds me that so many have had to say goodbye early to their children. We endure. (Because of people like you and so many here who have lived out such incredible grief and still reach their hands out to me. I am blessed) We all endure. I can't go the way Warm&Cozy did. It would only cause more people to feel the great sorrow. I know Danny wants me to carry on and smile for the love around me, even his.

Thank you again. Thank you all.

Well I'll tell ya later what I'm cooking for Poppa's birthday party tomorrow night. I wish you all could be here. He will be 67 years young. :) My family will make me smile. They always do.


you are right. It is a great Irish song. I love it. r u doing cake too?

[Nawny]

you are right. It is a great Irish song. I love it. r u doing cake too?

Yes, my DIL is in charge of the cake! Chocolate mousse. :) I'm doing all the cooking. We're having swordfish, Capellini with pink sauce, shrimp, bay scallops, olives, mushrooms and it's soooo good! I'm also making Eggplant layered with chicken cutlets and bufala Mozzarella topped with marinara sauce. Also Prime Rib Garlic red bliss mashed potatoes, and antipasto.. (Of course the usual platter of meatballs and sausage. Then cake, cookies, cannolis, then home made wine. Hagnog supreme!

I'm just an old Italian party animal! :hat:

[Nawny]

http://i582.photobucket.com/albums/ss269/foodstuff/italian%20food/italian_restaurants.jpghttp://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p312/thedrummerboy1983/FOOD.jpg


Comfort Food---Yessssssssss

LMAO! :) Yes, yes!

[Nawny]

Grab your hankie, Nawny.

I'm taking you for a ride, and you're gonna need it.

But remember-TEARS HEAL.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6Zfx5qra_g


When I get where I'm going
on the far side of the sky.
The first thing that I'm gonna do
Is spread my wings and fly.

I'm gonna land beside a lion,
and run my fingers through his mane.
Or I might find out what it's like
To ride a drop of rain

(Chorus:)
Yeah when I get where I'm going,
there'll be only happy tears.
I will shed the sins and struggles,
I have carried all these years.
And I'll leave my heart wide open,
I will love and have no fear.
Yeah when I get where I'm going,
Don't cry for me down here.

I'm gonna walk with my grandaddy,
and he'll match me step for step,
and I'll tell him how I missed him,
every minute since he left.
Then I'll hug his neck.

(Chorus)

So much pain and so much darkness,
in this world we stumble through.
All these questions, I can't answer,
so much work to do.

But when I get where I'm going,
and I see my Maker's face.
I'll stand forever in the light,
of His amazing grace.
Yeah when I get where I'm going,
Yeah when I get where I'm going,
there'll be only happy tears.
Hallelujah!
I will love and have no fear.
When I get where I'm going.
Yeah when I get where I'm going.


Here's one for Danny-from what you've said, he was a very beautiful, but misunderstood young man...and when you talk about him, this song comes to mind.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dipFMJckZOM


Starry, starry night
Paint your palette blue and gray
Look out on a summer's day
With eyes that know the darkness in my soul
Shadows on the hills
Sketch the trees and the daffodils
Catch the breeze and the winter chills
In colors on the snowy linen land

Now I understand
What you tried to say to me
How you suffered for your sanity
How you tried to set them free
They would not listen they did not know how
Perhaps they'll listen now

Starry, starry night
Flaming flowers that brightly blaze
Swirling clouds in violet haze
Reflecting Vincent's eyes of China blue
Colors changing hue
Morning fields of amber grain
Weathered faces lined in pain
Are soothed beneath the artist's loving hands

Now I understand
What you tried to say to me
How you suffered for your sanity
How you tried to set them free
They would not listen they did not know how
Perhaps they'll listen now

For they could not love you
But still your love was true
And when no hope was left in sight
On that starry, starry night
You took your life as lovers often do
But I could have told you Vincent
This world was never meant for one as
beautiful as you

Starry, starry night
Portraits hung in empty halls
Frameless heads on nameless walls
With eyes that watch the world and can't forget
Like the strangers that you've met
The ragged men in ragged clothes
A silver thorn on a bloody rose
Lie crushed and broken on the virgin snow

Now I think I know
What you tried to say to me
How you suffered for your sanity
How you tried to set them free
They would not listen they're not listening still
Perhaps they never will

Sam, you're amazing... thank you. Yes that is the song we all hear for Danny. Unbelivable that you should send this song to me.. I'm very moved. Thank you, thank you, thank you..
Big hugs
:rose:

[BeastofBears]

Yes, my DIL is in charge of the cake! Chocolate mousse. :) I'm doing all the cooking. We're having swordfish, Capellini with pink sauce, shrimp, bay scallops, olives, mushrooms and it's soooo good! I'm also making Eggplant layered with chicken cutlets and bufala Mozzarella topped with marinara sauce. Also Prime Rib Garlic red bliss mashed potatoes, and antipasto.. (Of course the usual platter of meatballs and sausage. Then cake, cookies, cannolis, then home made wine. Hagnog supreme!

I'm just an old Italian party animal! :hat:

I'm hungry. Really. This losing weight thing is getting old.

[BeastofBears]

Can you guys imagine being a neighbor of the house Chris Hansen is using for his Catch a Predator? Do they warn them? Are they hiding and cowering in terror not knowing what is going on? Are they calling their friends and bragging?

[Nawny]

I'm hungry. Really. This losing weight thing is getting old.

It sure is. This past week I've lost 4 lbs being miserable. I have no appetite when I'm miserable. Let's all eat and be happy. Comfort food doesn't work for me. I need to be comfortable to eat food.

After having my CL meltdown today I got hungry. I ate a spinach pie on the way home from the market. Honestly, I took it out of the bag when I put my groceries in the trunk, ate it while I drove home. Tonight I had a big fat effin cheeseburger and I don't care. lol! I mean it was a huge house burger on a kaiser roll. I need to purge more, it sure helped. We should call this the Black Sheep Purge Blog. ;)

[BeastofBears]

It sure is. This past week I've lost 4 lbs being miserable. I have no appetite when I'm miserable. Let's all eat and be happy. Comfort food doesn't work for me. I need to be comfortable to eat food.

After having my CL meltdown today I got hungry. I ate a spinach pie on the way home from the market. Honestly, I took it out of the bag when I put my groceries in the trunk, ate it while I drove home. Tonight I had a big fat effin cheeseburger and I don't care. lol! I mean it was a huge house burger on a kaiser roll. I need to purge more, it sure helped. We should call this the Black Sheep Purge Blog. ;)

Binging and purging is definitely the way to go! (how come there's smileys with beers but no smileys oinking out on food?)

[One2Snoop]

It sure is. This past week I've lost 4 lbs being miserable. I have no appetite when I'm miserable. Let's all eat and be happy. Comfort food doesn't work for me. I need to be comfortable to eat food.

After having my CL meltdown today I got hungry. I ate a spinach pie on the way home from the market. Honestly, I took it out of the bag when I put my groceries in the trunk, ate it while I drove home. Tonight I had a big fat effin cheeseburger and I don't care. lol! I mean it was a huge house burger on a kaiser roll. I need to purge more, it sure helped. We should call this the Black Sheep Purge Blog. ;)

For nawny :rose: :rose:

I keep wondering if this food thing is age related? When I was younger and I'd get upset I wouldn't eat for days, now it seems like this lazy FA blogger eats and eats and eats when she's upset. WTH is up with that? :tongue:

[old_soul]

Splash! NASA moon crash struck lots of water
By ALICIA CHANG, AP
3 hours ago


This image provided Friday, Nov. 13, 2009 by NASA shows the ejecta plume cre...


LOS ANGELES — Suddenly, the moon looks exciting again. It has lots of water, scientists said Friday — a thrilling discovery that sent a ripple of hope for a future astronaut outpost in a place that has always seemed barren and inhospitable.

Experts have long suspected there was water on the moon. Confirmation came from data churned up by two NASA spacecraft that intentionally slammed into a lunar crater last month.

"Indeed, yes, we found water. And we didn't find just a little bit. We found a significant amount," said Anthony Colaprete, lead scientist for the mission, holding up white gallon water buckets for emphasis.

The lunar crash kicked up at least 25 gallons and that's only what scientists could see from the plumes of the impact, Colaprete said.

Some space policy experts say that makes the moon attractive for exploration again. Having an abundance of water would make it easier to set up a base camp for astronauts, supplying drinking water and a key ingredient for rocket fuel.

"Having definitive evidence that there is substantial water is a significant step forward in making the moon an interesting place to go," said George Washington University space policy scholar John Logsdon.

Even so, members of the blue-ribbon panel reviewing NASA's future plans said it doesn't change their conclusion that the program needs more money to get beyond near-Earth orbit. The panel wants NASA to look at other potential destinations like asteroids and Mars.

"This new and terrific result reassures us about lunar resources, but ... the challenges currently facing the human spaceflight program remain," Chris Chyba, a Princeton astrophysicist who is on the panel, said in an e-mail.

President George W. Bush had proposed a more than $100 billion plan to return astronauts to the moon, then go on to Mars; a test flight of an early version of a new rocket was a success last month. President Barack Obama appointed the special panel to look at the entire moon exploration program. The decision is now up to the White House, and NASA's lunar plans are somewhat on hold until then.

As for unmanned exploration, previous missions had detected the presence of hydrogen in lunar craters near the moon's poles, possible evidence of ice. In September, scientists reported finding tiny amounts of water in the lunar soil all over the moon's surface.

But it was NASA's Oct. 9 mission involving the Lunar Crater Observation and Sensing Satellite, LCROSS, that provided the stunning confirmation announced Friday — water, in the forms of ice and vapor.

"Rather than a dead and unchanging world, it could in fact be a very dynamic and interesting one," said Greg Delory of the University of California, Berkeley, who was not involved in the mission, led by NASA's Ames Research Center in Mountain View, Calif.

The LCROSS spacecraft only hit one spot on the moon and it's unclear how much water there is across the entire moon.

The October mission involved two strikes into a permanently shadowed crater near the south pole. First, an empty rocket hull slammed into the Cabeus crater. Then, a trailing spacecraft recorded the drama live before it also crashed into the same spot four minutes later.

Though scientists were overjoyed with the plethora of data beamed back to Earth, the mission was a public relations dud. Space enthusiasts who stayed up all night to watch the spectacle did not see the promised giant plume of debris.

NASA scientists had predicted the twin impacts would spew six miles of dust into the sunlight. Instead, images revealed only a mile-high plume, and it was not visible to many amateur astronomers peering through telescopes.

Scientists spent a month analyzing data from the spacecraft's spectrometers, instruments that can detect strong signals of water molecules in the plume.

"We've had hints that there is water. This was almost like tasting it," said Peter Schultz, professor of geological sciences at Brown University and a co-investigator on the LCROSS mission.

Astronaut Buzz Aldrin, who in 1969 made his historic Apollo 11 moonwalk with Neil Armstrong, was pleased to hear the latest discovery, but still believes the U.S. should focus on colonizing Mars.

"People will overreact to this news and say, `Let's have a water rush to the moon,'" Aldrin said. "It doesn't justify that."

Mission scientists said it would take more time to tease out what else was kicked up in the moon dust.

http://i37.tinypic.com/23wv9xt.jpg

[Nawny]

For nawny :rose: :rose:

I keep wondering if this food thing is age related? When I was younger and I'd get upset I wouldn't eat for days, now it seems like this lazy FA blogger eats and eats and eats when she's upset. WTH is up with that? :tongue:

Life is easier when we get older. We're not running around as much. As a young woman my life was like being on a pogo stick in a land mine field. To nervous and busy surviving to eat. Now poppa and his food in fallout shelter quantities makes it impossible to not-eat.

I want to be a diva, but I missed my calling. :o I'm just a Nawny. :D

[Nawny]

Splash! NASA moon crash struck lots of water
By ALICIA CHANG, AP
3 hours ago


This image provided Friday, Nov. 13, 2009 by NASA shows the ejecta plume cre...


LOS ANGELES — Suddenly, the moon looks exciting again. It has lots of water, scientists said Friday — a thrilling discovery that sent a ripple of hope for a future astronaut outpost in a place that has always seemed barren and inhospitable.

Experts have long suspected there was water on the moon. Confirmation came from data churned up by two NASA spacecraft that intentionally slammed into a lunar crater last month.

"Indeed, yes, we found water. And we didn't find just a little bit. We found a significant amount," said Anthony Colaprete, lead scientist for the mission, holding up white gallon water buckets for emphasis.

The lunar crash kicked up at least 25 gallons and that's only what scientists could see from the plumes of the impact, Colaprete said.

Some space policy experts say that makes the moon attractive for exploration again. Having an abundance of water would make it easier to set up a base camp for astronauts, supplying drinking water and a key ingredient for rocket fuel.

"Having definitive evidence that there is substantial water is a significant step forward in making the moon an interesting place to go," said George Washington University space policy scholar John Logsdon.

Even so, members of the blue-ribbon panel reviewing NASA's future plans said it doesn't change their conclusion that the program needs more money to get beyond near-Earth orbit. The panel wants NASA to look at other potential destinations like asteroids and Mars.

"This new and terrific result reassures us about lunar resources, but ... the challenges currently facing the human spaceflight program remain," Chris Chyba, a Princeton astrophysicist who is on the panel, said in an e-mail.

President George W. Bush had proposed a more than $100 billion plan to return astronauts to the moon, then go on to Mars; a test flight of an early version of a new rocket was a success last month. President Barack Obama appointed the special panel to look at the entire moon exploration program. The decision is now up to the White House, and NASA's lunar plans are somewhat on hold until then.

As for unmanned exploration, previous missions had detected the presence of hydrogen in lunar craters near the moon's poles, possible evidence of ice. In September, scientists reported finding tiny amounts of water in the lunar soil all over the moon's surface.

But it was NASA's Oct. 9 mission involving the Lunar Crater Observation and Sensing Satellite, LCROSS, that provided the stunning confirmation announced Friday — water, in the forms of ice and vapor.

"Rather than a dead and unchanging world, it could in fact be a very dynamic and interesting one," said Greg Delory of the University of California, Berkeley, who was not involved in the mission, led by NASA's Ames Research Center in Mountain View, Calif.

The LCROSS spacecraft only hit one spot on the moon and it's unclear how much water there is across the entire moon.

The October mission involved two strikes into a permanently shadowed crater near the south pole. First, an empty rocket hull slammed into the Cabeus crater. Then, a trailing spacecraft recorded the drama live before it also crashed into the same spot four minutes later.

Though scientists were overjoyed with the plethora of data beamed back to Earth, the mission was a public relations dud. Space enthusiasts who stayed up all night to watch the spectacle did not see the promised giant plume of debris.

NASA scientists had predicted the twin impacts would spew six miles of dust into the sunlight. Instead, images revealed only a mile-high plume, and it was not visible to many amateur astronomers peering through telescopes.

Scientists spent a month analyzing data from the spacecraft's spectrometers, instruments that can detect strong signals of water molecules in the plume.

"We've had hints that there is water. This was almost like tasting it," said Peter Schultz, professor of geological sciences at Brown University and a co-investigator on the LCROSS mission.

Astronaut Buzz Aldrin, who in 1969 made his historic Apollo 11 moonwalk with Neil Armstrong, was pleased to hear the latest discovery, but still believes the U.S. should focus on colonizing Mars.

"People will overreact to this news and say, `Let's have a water rush to the moon,'" Aldrin said. "It doesn't justify that."

Mission scientists said it would take more time to tease out what else was kicked up in the moon dust.

http://i37.tinypic.com/23wv9xt.jpg


Oh great, now theyhave some other planet to pallute. Groan... leave the moon alone. It is not bothering anyone.

[SaraSidle]

Oh great, now theyhave some other planet to pallute. Groan... leave the moon alone. It is not bothering anyone.


i have some uncooked capellini. when I get ready to cook it some year I will ask you how if that is okay???

[SaraSidle]

Binging and purging is definitely the way to go! (how come there's smileys with beers but no smileys oinking out on food?)

LOL which food would you like to see with that smiley???

[Nawny]

i have some uncooked capellini. when I get ready to cook it some year I will ask you how if that is okay???

Capellini is cooked like all spaghetti, but it cooks faster. Let it boil for 5 minutes, and wella!! Done.. you can eat it with melted butter or sauce or anything.. sometimes I just put butter and grated Romano cheese.. yummy :)

[SaraSidle]

Capellini is cooked like all spaghetti, but it cooks faster. Let it boil for 5 minutes, and wella!! Done.. you can eat it with melted butter or sauce or anything.. sometimes I just put butter and grated Romano cheese.. yummy :)

perfect. thanks for the info. butter and grated romano sounds great :D

[Nawny]

I was just reading the other CA discussion.. Good LORD! Those Ants are chompin on the bit a little too hard huh? I have such an urge to day, "Are those people nuts?" But we've all worn that out no matter how many times they act out though, it still fits.

To one extent or another we're all crippled emotionally. The difference between them and us is that we *know* it and try to correct it at every turn. They will deny their crippledom indignantly and blithely continue to F up everything they breathe on.

I can't take it! :cuss:

[Nawny]

perfect. thanks for the info. butter and grated romano sounds great :D

:) Pasta is my biggest weakness. :chicken:

[SaraSidle]

:) Pasta is my biggest weakness. :chicken:

me too kind of tied with potatoes. my absolute favorite is the spaghetti carbonara recipe you gave me eons ago. I just love it I could eat it and lobstertails every day and mud pie for dessert.

[BeastofBears]

Oh great, now theyhave some other planet to pallute. Groan... leave the moon alone. It is not bothering anyone.

It vexes me, Nawny, and I will defeat it!

Seriously, though, I sure hope they decontaminated the rocket they bombed it with, or there might be e coli in moon water now.

[BeastofBears]

LOL which food would you like to see with that smiley???

spaghetti with meatballs. Easy to make! TPTB could take care of it snappy...

[SaraSidle]

spaghetti with meatballs. Easy to make! TPTB could take care of it snappy...

LOL better have parmesan cheese on that:D

[SaraSidle]

It vexes me, Nawny, and I will defeat it!

Seriously, though, I sure hope they decontaminated the rocket they bombed it with, or there might be e coli in moon water now.


I am still kind of shocked we did that. I did not hear about it until right before we did that. Not thinking it was a bright move. IMO

[Nawny]

It vexes me, Nawny, and I will defeat it!

Seriously, though, I sure hope they decontaminated the rocket they bombed it with, or there might be e coli in moon water now.

Did you see the way I spelled pallute? :eek: I overwork editors I swear!

I sure hope the beings on the moon are more evolved than we are. I think they are and they'll decontaminate the rocket. Then they'll go back into hiding and heal the hole. This country has been screwing up nature for ages. :flamemad:

[Nawny]

I am still kind of shocked we did that. I did not hear about it until right before we did that. Not thinking it was a bright move. IMO

We are the champions..America; this little country not yet 300 years old, wants the moon too! It wants to be the first! It's about power and its about resources and it's about as costly as possible.

Not that all the homeless and hungry in the streets of America matter. Not that all those who are losing their houses and jobs matter! Not that all the taxes we pay are not needed to feed the Casey Anthony's of this mother country don't matter; The MOON! That matters. We need the MOON. :mad:

(Watch, the water will be poison.) Captain Kirk will beam Scotti right outta theah! :biggrin:

[Amy]

i have some uncooked capellini. when I get ready to cook it some year I will ask you how if that is okay???

Would you be using the moon water to do this cooking? :D

[BeastofBears]

Would you be using the moon water to do this cooking? :D

Oh, you know Evian will want to bottle THAT! Some stupid people would pay a fortune, like that Vodka made from glacier water.

[samanthajane13]

Hate to break in like this, but has anyone heard from Wind lately??

I haven't seen her posts, and I checked-she last posted last week.

I hope she's okay...maybe just out of town or something.

WIIIIND!!! Are you out there??

[SaraSidle]

We are the champions..America; this little country not yet 300 years old, wants the moon too! It wants to be the first! It's about power and its about resources and it's about as costly as possible.

Not that all the homeless and hungry in the streets of America matter. Not that all those who are losing their houses and jobs matter! Not that all the taxes we pay are not needed to feed the Casey Anthony's of this mother country don't matter; The MOON! That matters. We need the MOON. :mad:

(Watch, the water will be poison.) Captain Kirk will beam Scotti right outta theah! :biggrin:

Would you be using the moon water to do this cooking? :D

Oh, you know Evian will want to bottle THAT! Some stupid people would pay a fortune, like that Vodka made from glacier water.

you are all too funny. I hear the water is in ice form so I am thinking along the lines of daquiris and margueritas The alcohol will decontaminate the ice
http://i494.photobucket.com/albums/rr303/ShadowHawk957/cocktails.jpg

Moon drinks

[BeastofBears]

you are all too funny. I hear the water is in ice form so I am thinking along the lines of daquiris and margueritas The alcohol will decontaminate the ice
http://i494.photobucket.com/albums/rr303/ShadowHawk957/cocktails.jpg

Moon drinks

Moon drinkers!
http://i41.tinypic.com/2zi934p.jpg

[old_soul]

you are all too funny. I hear the water is in ice form so I am thinking along the lines of daquiris and margueritas The alcohol will decontaminate the ice
http://i494.photobucket.com/albums/rr303/ShadowHawk957/cocktails.jpg

Moon drinks

LMAO!!! Hey there Sara, those drinks you have there, woman, look DaMn good!

Let's not get too down on this moon stuff kids...when we (here on this board) are all gone for many moons (pardon the pun), it just might be where our great, great, great grandchildren will be working - or living.............

IF all of us here on Earth make it past 2012.........:eek:

[SaraSidle]

LMAO!!! Hey there Sara, those drinks you have there, woman, look DaMn good!

Let's not get too down on this moon stuff kids...when we (here on this board) are all gone for many moons (pardon the pun), it just might be where our great, great, great grandchildren will be working - or living.............

IF all of us here on Earth make it past 2012.........:eek:

oh yeah I think the Mayans were very superior but I do not think they got that date right.

[BeastofBears]

oh yeah I think the Mayans were very superior but I do not think they got that date right.

Someday some archaeologist will find an ancient computer and conclude we thought the world would end on y2k, since none of the computer calendars went beyond that. Same concept...

[beemer]

Those following the Shaniya story please go to the thread-Mom arrested-prepare yourself for what the charges are :cuss: :flamemad:

[DrewBerry]

Life is easier when we get older. We're not running around as much. As a young woman my life was like being on a pogo stick in a land mine field. To nervous and busy surviving to eat. Now poppa and his food in fallout shelter quantities makes it impossible to not-eat.

I want to be a diva, but I missed my calling. :o I'm just a Nawny. :D

Hello friend. I just popped in here to find you! I've missed reading your posts. I've been recovering from neck surgery and haven't been on the boards much lately. So, I'm here to say: You didn't miss your calling. You are a special woman and one of the best Nawny's ever!! Your weebles love you just the way you are and so do we! :rose:
:seeya:
DrewB

[Nawny]

Hello friend. I just popped in here to find you! I've missed reading your posts. I've been recovering from neck surgery and haven't been on the boards much lately. So, I'm here to say: You didn't miss your calling. You are a special woman and one of the best Nawny's ever!! Your weebles love you just the way you are and so do we! :rose:
:seeya:
DrewB

I'm so sorry you had to go through the medical woods of hell! Why? It sounds very painful and uncomfortable. :( Again, I see that our bodies don't like stress! You've had such a horrible year my poor friend. I hate when I have to connect to anything medical (especially in this state) I could be bleeding from every hole in my face and I 'll say,, no, no, I'm fine, really, I'm good. Poor baby.. I hope you're recovering nice and smooth.

Rhode Island is so awful when it comes to medical. In fact last week they finally installed cameras in the O-R after the third incident of surgical screw ups in one year. When my son broke his neck, the hospital bill had a charged for tampons.. :eek: I know its hard to believe. It's true!

Big hugs for the boo boo.. Keep me posted.

Love
Nawn

[BeastofBears]

Tampons?! LOL!!

[samanthajane13]

Years ago, I was hospitalized for 10 days for a severe respiratory infection and a bad asthma bout.

The only soap they had for patients in the entire hospital was Zest, and as soon as I took a shower with it, I broke out in severe hives from stem to stern.

When I finally got a nurse to come to see the hives, she brought me a sample sized container of Johnson & Johnson baby powder-the size they put in the baby packs for new moms!!! It even said "Sample Size-Not for individual sale" on it.

I asked her WTF the powder was for, and she said, "For your DIAPER RASH."

I freaked on her, telling her is was HIVES and she said the derm and allergy clinics were all booked and and maybe I could get an appointment when I was released.

They wouldn't even give me BENEDRYL for an ALLERGY.

They said if they didn't have someone to document it as an allergy, they couldn't prescribe Benedryl or anything else.

I called my boy-friend and told him to pick up my Phisoderm, Neutrogena soap and Benedryl when he came to visit that night.

Finally, the next day, MY doctor came in, and she documented it...and I got my Benedryl, and she even got me some hydrocortisone spray for the itch.

I was VERY SHOCKED when I got the bill...

$12.50 for one container of baby powder.

When I left, I walked down to the billing office and handed them the baby powder-still in the shrink wrap-and walked out.

[DrewBerry]

I'm so sorry you had to go through the medical woods of hell! Why? It sounds very painful and uncomfortable. :( Again, I see that our bodies don't like stress! You've had such a horrible year my poor friend. I hate when I have to connect to anything medical (especially in this state) I could be bleeding from every hole in my face and I 'll say,, no, no, I'm fine, really, I'm good. Poor baby.. I hope you're recovering nice and smooth.

Rhode Island is so awful when it comes to medical. In fact last week they finally installed cameras in the O-R after the third incident of surgical screw ups in one year. When my son broke his neck, the hospital bill had a charged for tampons.. :eek: I know its hard to believe. It's true!

Big hugs for the boo boo.. Keep me posted.

Love
Nawn

OMG! Nawny---can't believe RI is that bad with medical. Tampons? GMAFB!
We're lucky here in Seattle. Got some of the best hospitals in the country. I've been fortunate to have top-notch care but I am buried in medical bills right now AND I have "good" insurance. Go figure. I'm hoping this health care reform gets passed but it doesn't look like the Republicans are going to help.
Thank you for your well wishes. I'm getting thru it with pain meds.!! You are so right about stress taking its toll on our bodies. I've had my fill this year but at least I have a great job and medical. I worry about all those who are suffering in this economy. Families w/o jobs, medical, food, losing their homes. My gawd, I hope things improve soon. It's tough out there. I don't have a pot to pee in, but I've got a job and rent a nice place. Just getting by but I'm grateful for my good friends who are always there for me.
So good to hear from ya, my RI friend.
Luv ya, too, Nawn!
Drew

[JLette]

ok here are some baby pics of little Isaac for all your baby pic enjoyment


http://i36.tinypic.com/zog5cw.jpg

http://i33.tinypic.com/2j4ot5d.jpg

http://i33.tinypic.com/34g9i03.jpg
:biggrin:

[DrewBerry]

JLette! He is beautiful!! Congrats! Look at all that gorgeous hair! Thank you for sharing these photos. I LOVE babies!
DrewB

[Amy]

Hate to break in like this, but has anyone heard from Wind lately??

I haven't seen her posts, and I checked-she last posted last week.

I hope she's okay...maybe just out of town or something.

WIIIIND!!! Are you out there??

Hope she's doing okay. Wasn't she going to go somewhere w/her sister? Can't remember when that was to take place (or has it already?) Or, maybe school work is heavy right now.

[Amy]

Hello friend. I just popped in here to find you! I've missed reading your posts. I've been recovering from neck surgery and haven't been on the boards much lately. So, I'm here to say: You didn't miss your calling. You are a special woman and one of the best Nawny's ever!! Your weebles love you just the way you are and so do we! :rose:
:seeya:
DrewB

That sounds pretty darn serious!!! Glad you are recovered enough to come to the boards.

And you're right. I'm betting those weebles know they have the queen of Nawnies in their lives!!!

[Amy]

I'm so sorry you had to go through the medical woods of hell! Why? It sounds very painful and uncomfortable. :( Again, I see that our bodies don't like stress! You've had such a horrible year my poor friend. I hate when I have to connect to anything medical (especially in this state) I could be bleeding from every hole in my face and I 'll say,, no, no, I'm fine, really, I'm good. Poor baby.. I hope you're recovering nice and smooth.

Rhode Island is so awful when it comes to medical. In fact last week they finally installed cameras in the O-R after the third incident of surgical screw ups in one year. When my son broke his neck, the hospital bill had a charged for tampons.. :eek: I know its hard to believe. It's true!

Big hugs for the boo boo.. Keep me posted.

Love
Nawn

I'm sure it was looked into, and was a mis-charge. But, I'm here to tell you that in the hospital, especially in surgery, wound care, etc. that items are used that you would think have nothing to do w/the case.

Like the ins co that was denying payment of a TUR irrigation set up (for those who don't know, that is generally used with prostate surgery) for a guy with a broken leg. Well, it was a dirty break, can't remember where the fellow had been, but the wound had to be irrigated during surgery, and this is the equipment used.

The little blue syringe we use to snocker out the babies' mouth and nose @ delivery and if s/he regurgitates or whatever is really called syringe, ear irrigation. Go figure. The closest we get to babies' ears during their first stay is swabs to clean the gunk from them.

I was elected to re-audit patient charts when insurance declined large amounts of the charges. Now, that was interesting--I found out a lot of things, like the use of the equipment/supplies that don't sound like they fit the case.

[BeastofBears]

Jlette, Thank you for sharing baby pictures-and the two that included your big boy, too!!! He is so handsome and looks like he's a good big brother.

Your little guy looks really smart-he has a really intense gaze for someone so young!

[lighthousedazy]

ok here are some baby pics of little Isaac for all your baby pic enjoyment


http://i36.tinypic.com/zog5cw.jpg

http://i33.tinypic.com/2j4ot5d.jpg

http://i33.tinypic.com/34g9i03.jpg
:biggrin:
They are beautiful Jlette.

[DrewBerry]

That sounds pretty darn serious!!! Glad you are recovered enough to come to the boards.

And you're right. I'm betting those weebles know they have the queen of Nawnies in their lives!!!

Hi Amy! Good to see you tonight. :seeya:

DrewB

[JLette]

Jlette, Thank you for sharing baby pictures-and the two that included your big boy, too!!! He is so handsome and looks like he's a good big brother.

Your little guy looks really smart-he has a really intense gaze for someone so young!

they are both very intense lol and of course i think they are both soo smart. isaac is developing in leaps and bounds just like luukas did. luuk is gonna be in kindergarten next year :eek:

[BeastofBears]

they are both very intense lol and of course i think they are both soo smart. isaac is developing in leaps and bounds just like luukas did. luuk is gonna be in kindergarten next year :eek:

My David, too. scaaaaary!

[Nawny]

ok here are some baby pics of little Isaac for all your baby pic enjoyment


http://i36.tinypic.com/zog5cw.jpg

http://i33.tinypic.com/2j4ot5d.jpg

http://i33.tinypic.com/34g9i03.jpg
:biggrin:



Awww, so precious!!! Both of them beautiful boys :)

[Nawny]

My David, too. scaaaaary!

LOL! Don't be scared momma.. Boys are fun! Kindergarten won't eat them.:punch:

[SaraSidle]

they are both very intense lol and of course i think they are both soo smart. isaac is developing in leaps and bounds just like luukas did. luuk is gonna be in kindergarten next year :eek:

JLette they are both so handsome. I do not think I have seen a handsome baby before. You are going to have your hands full when they have girlfriends. thanks fpr posting them. sara

[DrewBerry]

they are both very intense lol and of course i think they are both soo smart. isaac is developing in leaps and bounds just like luukas did. luuk is gonna be in kindergarten next year :eek:

Hi JLette! I love boys! Raised 2 of them myself; no girls. My oldest is 28 and my youngest is 22 now. 6 yrs. apart almost like yours! They were SO MUCH FUN and they are loving and loyal to their mama! Bless you and your boys!
:seeya:
DrewB

[Gatordog]

It is so good to read the posts from you moms of small children. All we hear about are monster mothers. It's good to be reminded that there are warm and loving parents out there who live for their children. You Moms renew my faith in humanity because there are too many horror stories out there.

[Gatordog]

perfect. thanks for the info. butter and grated romano sounds great :D

Sprinkle some parsley on that. mmmmm tastes good

[Gatordog]

Home again today. I had to have x-rays to check my ribs and all that twisting put me in agony. It was so bad last night that I was afraid I was going have to go to the hospital. Pain killers make it tolerable. Nawny says that someone put the Malocchio (evil eye) on me. I think she's right. I bet it was that Grinchy Spindy.

Got my H1N1 vaccine today.

Watched the shuttle go up just a few minutes ago. It was a beautiful launch.

[SaraSidle]

Home again today. I had to have x-rays to check my ribs and all that twisting put me in agony. It was so bad last night that I was afraid I was going have to go to the hospital. Pain killers make it tolerable. Nawny says that someone put the Malocchio (evil eye) on me. I think she's right. I bet it was that Grinchy Spindy.

Got my H1N1 vaccine today.

Watched the shuttle go up just a few minutes ago. It was a beautiful launch.

I love parsley. good idea
how did the xrays turn out? I hope you keep getting better quickly.
I watched it on tv. I am so jealous you have warm weather and can watch the shuttle..........sara

[One2Snoop]

I hope you feel better soon gator. :rose:

jlette - loved the pics - thanks for sharing. :rose:

[old_soul]

Home again today. I had to have x-rays to check my ribs and all that twisting put me in agony. It was so bad last night that I was afraid I was going have to go to the hospital. Pain killers make it tolerable. Nawny says that someone put the Malocchio (evil eye) on me. I think she's right. I bet it was that Grinchy Spindy.

Got my H1N1 vaccine today.

Watched the shuttle go up just a few minutes ago. It was a beautiful launch.

Ouch! Poor Gator! I know from having Bronchitis alone how sore you can get from coughing, you must have been hurting real bad with those riblets like that! :(
Pain meds are your friend! Like I tell my clients...scratch you a**, then shoot the malocchio out your front door..:)http://i33.tinypic.com/nzhxr7.jpg

That SpIndY! :cuss: Here's a pin to wear to wear too! http://i33.tinypic.com/25hny4h.jpg

Feel Better darlin! :rose:

[deacon]

LOL! Don't be scared momma.. Boys are fun! Kindergarten won't eat them.:punch:

Kindergarten was a breeze. College, now that was a different story.

[Gatordog]

I love parsley. good idea
how did the xrays turn out? I hope you keep getting better quickly.
I watched it on tv. I am so jealous you have warm weather and can watch the shuttle..........sara

Hi Sara, my back yard faces east so all I have to do is look out the patio door and I have a perfect view of the launch. The weather is perfect now. I am typing on my laptop and my precious Freddy is lying down right behind it stretched out. He is so adorable. He's a tuxedo cat and is the sweetest little boy. He has made me feel so much better while being ill.

[Nawny]

Ouch! Poor Gator! I know from having Bronchitis alone how sore you can get from coughing, you must have been hurting real bad with those riblets like that! :(
Pain meds are your friend! Like I tell my clients...scratch you a**, then shoot the malocchio out your front door..:)http://i33.tinypic.com/nzhxr7.jpg

That SpIndY! :cuss: Here's a pin to wear to wear too! http://i33.tinypic.com/25hny4h.jpg

Feel Better darlin! :rose:

Don't forget, you have to put 2 drops of oil in a small dish of water. If the drops merge, I think that means something. If not, then you're good to go. I can't remember.. maybe I can google it. We have to get that Malawkia off Gator!

[Nawny]

Ooo,oooh I found it!

There are other protections against the evil eye. If someone in your house is born in January, your house will be safe. Also, wearing a hidden red ribbon should suffice. But, if you can’t avoid it, there is a cure used widely in small towns across Italy and Greece. It includes saying incantations and placing a few drops of olive oil in a bowl of water, which is sometimes salted. The oil may scatter, form into blobs or sink to the bottom, and if read correctly will reveal the source of the attack. Once this is done, more oil and incantations can cure the hex.

However amusing this all may seem, the enduring quality of these superstitions suggest that perhaps there is something to them.


Okay, send Gator lots of red ribbons!

http://i38.tinypic.com/2vxheu8.jpg

[BeastofBears]

LOL! Don't be scared momma.. Boys are fun! Kindergarten won't eat them.:punch:

You don't understand, Nawny...my boy will eat kindergarten! Oh, and he will have fun doing it!

[BeastofBears]

Ooo,oooh I found it!

There are other protections against the evil eye. If someone in your house is born in January, your house will be safe. Also, wearing a hidden red ribbon should suffice. But, if you can’t avoid it, there is a cure used widely in small towns across Italy and Greece. It includes saying incantations and placing a few drops of olive oil in a bowl of water, which is sometimes salted. The oil may scatter, form into blobs or sink to the bottom, and if read correctly will reveal the source of the attack. Once this is done, more oil and incantations can cure the hex.

However amusing this all may seem, the enduring quality of these superstitions suggest that perhaps there is something to them.


Okay, send Gator lots of red ribbons!

http://i38.tinypic.com/2vxheu8.jpg

Ummm, what do you do when you know "the source of the attack"? Or should I be afraid to ask?

[Nawny]

Ummm, what do you do when you know "the source of the attack"? Or should I be afraid to ask?

LMAO!!! Just pray for them, they hate that. ;) Or you could put sugar in their gas tank. Or sneak in their house and put a fish under their mattress, or well, actually curses like chickens come home to roost. So, you really don't have to do anything. Just sit back and watch the show baby!

If you're really mad you can make a doll and stick pins in it.. lol :punch: Bad me.

[Nawny]

You don't understand, Nawny...my boy will eat kindergarten! Oh, and he will have fun doing it!

Lord, love the boys! They know how to rock and roll! :beer:

[SaraSidle]

Hi Sara, my back yard faces east so all I have to do is look out the patio door and I have a perfect view of the launch. The weather is perfect now. I am typing on my laptop and my precious Freddy is lying down right behind it stretched out. He is so adorable. He's a tuxedo cat and is the sweetest little boy. He has made me feel so much better while being ill.

that sounds so wonderful. My family has watched launches as long as I can remember. We vacationed down there for a week and checked out the whole station. my sil flew my brother and their boys down there to watch a launch but it was delayed. What a sight to see for you.
I know what you mean about the cat. I have one that makes me feel better when I need it.........love kitties It sounds like you are a little better. just have to stop coughing soon..........poor ribsl

[DrewBerry]

Lord, love the boys! They know how to rock and roll! :beer:
THEY DO
I 2nd that emotion, Nawny. Lord, love the boys! KTHEY DO NOW how to rock and roll! and have fun in groups of boys! What great memmories I have with my boys! We love the same music (most of the time) I've learned so much about my boys Drew and Adam. As soon as they could open theirs mouths they could talk, I couldn't stop smiling. Even now, they start things off with some crazy funny story and we all laugh! My favorite thing is looking over at my boys now and seeing their genuine love for each other. I love the way they get along. Love, love, love, them!
DrewB

[JLette]

You don't understand, Nawny...my boy will eat kindergarten! Oh, and he will have fun doing it!

LMAO i hear that. i know my son and i know he will be terrified for the first two days and then he will be pushing me away at the gate lol. he actually doesn't turn 5 until September 2nd and school starts here on August 28th usually, i hope they don't give me grief about that, i have heard of people, like my hubbys cousin, who had to start school basically a year late because of birthday issues.


baby is going in for his first shots today!!! eeeeeek :eek: i hate this part.


i have had a helluva morning. my MOTHER succeeded is screwing up my day before the sun came up. she had an arrangement with me for months now about taking my nephew to school in the mornings. not a problem. except a couple weeks ago she decided it was too cold to bring him over here at quarter to 5 in the morning, again not a problem. she was gonna just have my dad bring him over here before he goes to sleep in the morning since he is on graveyards now. NOT A PROBLEM. so i was slightly confused when my phone rang at 4:40 am. i got up and answered it, my mom was saying she was bringing my nephew over. in my confused state i made the HORRENDOUS error of expressing my confusion at the arrangement. so, what does my mom do....typical behavior she cusses me out and hangs up on me. nothing pisses me off more in this world than getting hung up on, probably because she does it so often. so i get mad and throw my cordless phone at the floor, shattering it into about 3 pieces, (i go through a lot of phones thanks to my temper and my mom's psychotic behavior) and i call her back on my cell. she won't answer, so i text her to send him over that i was just confused and i didn't understand what she was telling me. she says "NO nevermind, i need someone RELIABLE and apparently i don't have that!!" and i say " well EXCUSE ME for SLEEPING at 4:30 in the morning and not being PSYCHIC enough to know that the plans changed again." then i realized what it was really all about. we have a appt at the social security office for my BIL today and we needed to use her car. well, she knew that and of course when she cant FIND a reason to be pissed she has to MAKE one. soooo.....yea...the sun isn't even up yet and i am pretty sure my day is in the toilet. at 8:10 i get to take my baby for shots and then we get to figure out a way to drive to lakeport by 1:10....ugh today is gonna be fun....:mad:

[BeastofBears]

LMAO i hear that. i know my son and i know he will be terrified for the first two days and then he will be pushing me away at the gate lol. he actually doesn't turn 5 until September 2nd and school starts here on August 28th usually, i hope they don't give me grief about that, i have heard of people, like my hubbys cousin, who had to start school basically a year late because of birthday issues.


baby is going in for his first shots today!!! eeeeeek :eek: i hate this part.


i have had a helluva morning. my MOTHER succeeded is screwing up my day before the sun came up. she had an arrangement with me for months now about taking my nephew to school in the mornings. not a problem. except a couple weeks ago she decided it was too cold to bring him over here at quarter to 5 in the morning, again not a problem. she was gonna just have my dad bring him over here before he goes to sleep in the morning since he is on graveyards now. NOT A PROBLEM. so i was slightly confused when my phone rang at 4:40 am. i got up and answered it, my mom was saying she was bringing my nephew over. in my confused state i made the HORRENDOUS error of expressing my confusion at the arrangement. so, what does my mom do....typical behavior she cusses me out and hangs up on me. nothing pisses me off more in this world than getting hung up on, probably because she does it so often. so i get mad and throw my cordless phone at the floor, shattering it into about 3 pieces, (i go through a lot of phones thanks to my temper and my mom's psychotic behavior) and i call her back on my cell. she won't answer, so i text her to send him over that i was just confused and i didn't understand what she was telling me. she says "NO nevermind, i need someone RELIABLE and apparently i don't have that!!" and i say " well EXCUSE ME for SLEEPING at 4:30 in the morning and not being PSYCHIC enough to know that the plans changed again." then i realized what it was really all about. we have a appt at the social security office for my BIL today and we needed to use her car. well, she knew that and of course when she cant FIND a reason to be pissed she has to MAKE one. soooo.....yea...the sun isn't even up yet and i am pretty sure my day is in the toilet. at 8:10 i get to take my baby for shots and then we get to figure out a way to drive to lakeport by 1:10....ugh today is gonna be fun....:mad:

Oh my gosh! Your mom sounds just like my mom! One injudicious comment from me, and I am spending days doing damage control! eggshells, always walking on eggshells!

Don't let it ruin your day! Ooooh, those poor little chubby thighs+needles :(

[shadydaisy]

Sounds like a few of us share the same mom......

Jlette - your children are adorable. Almost, and I stress almost, makes me miss when my kids were little. I will tell you I did not like the kindergarten years and thought it got a lot better after 3rd grade. College is a breeze! Boys are fun and you will find ways to get most of the dirt out of their clothes.

Gator - I hope you get all better soon!

Sorry I can't seem to find who had surgery recently but I want to wish you well too!

[SaraSidle]

Sounds like a few of us share the same mom......

Jlette - your children are adorable. Almost, and I stress almost, makes me miss when my kids were little. I will tell you I did not like the kindergarten years and thought it got a lot better after 3rd grade. College is a breeze! Boys are fun and you will find ways to get most of the dirt out of their clothes.

Gator - I hope you get all better soon!

Sorry I can't seem to find who had surgery recently but I want to wish you well too!

That would be Drew shady. neck surgery

[JLette]

Oh my gosh! Your mom sounds just like my mom! One injudicious comment from me, and I am spending days doing damage control! eggshells, always walking on eggshells!

Don't let it ruin your day! Ooooh, those poor little chubby thighs+needles :(

OMG tell me about it. and i TOLD her "well i am already up now, might as well just send him over since i am not going back to bed"

HA yea right, because then she wouldn't be able to STAY mad throughout the day. she will stop being mad right around the time we miss our appt if i know her like i think i do.


and my poor baby's little thighs, it takes the LARGEST amount of self control to not knock out the nurses when they stick em.

[beemer]

Hey all-hope this finds everyone on the upswing :seeya: J-sounds like ya have your hands full with Mom. Boys are beautiful. I have been lucky enough to raise 2 and one daughter. It has been a pleasure. Shady i dont know where time goes either. Seems like yesterday. I luv it when we are all together and i enjoy watching my kids interact. We have sure had some luck on our side as they sure are young adults we are proud of. One more year of University after this one and all are educated and that part of our lives comes to a close. I look forward to seeing what the future brings for them and for me. I hope it is some weebles down the road when they are ready. I wanna be a nawny while i can still think.

[shadydaisy]

That would be Drew shady. neck surgery

Thanks Sara - I'm at work and have to move quickly......

Drew, I hope you are healing well - Best wishes to you!

Beemer, it is fun watching the interactions, isn't it? My two were raised with DH's older two (he had custody) and it's funny how the age differences have seemingly gotten smaller. DD has 3 older brothers and she is the princess to the older two. Any BF she has had has gone through hell when all three brothers were there to interrogate him. We also have two DIL's and 5 grand-kids.

[BeastofBears]

Marian hasn't been around for a loooooong time. I hope she is just on a b-day vacation or something...

[DrewBerry]

Thanks for the kind thoughts, Shady! Good to hear from you. Recovery is slow but steady.
Take care,
Drew

[SaraSidle]

Marian hasn't been around for a loooooong time. I hope she is just on a b-day vacation or something...

same with Wagsy

[JLette]

just got back from the doctors office.

Isaac weighs 11 lbs 9 oz now and is 22 1/2 inches long. a little over three lbs gained since his last visit :beer:

the shots were horrible as i knew they would be. he got meningitis, hep B, and tetanus shots today, plus some nasty smelling drops to ward off diarrhea from the other shots. he WAILED of course, and i had to look away after the first shot. but then he fell asleep on the way out to the car and he is still sleeping now. and in about 4 hours we have to drive a half hour to lakeport and go sit at the SSA office for my brother in laws appointment.

what a fun day! lol

[SaraSidle]

just got back from the doctors office.

Isaac weighs 11 lbs 9 oz now and is 22 1/2 inches long. a little over three lbs gained since his last visit :beer:

the shots were horrible as i knew they would be. he got meningitis, hep B, and tetanus shots today, plus some nasty smelling drops to ward off diarrhea from the other shots. he WAILED of course, and i had to look away after the first shot. but then he fell asleep on the way out to the car and he is still sleeping now. and in about 4 hours we have to drive a half hour to lakeport and go sit at the SSA office for my brother in laws appointment.

what a fun day! lol


LOL JLette so far so good eh?

[BeastofBears]

same with Wagsy

Wow! Yeah!

[One2Snoop]

Time to vote again - this is Round 2.... :D

Vote for Jannis.....

http://www.sam-e.com/job/profile/155


You can vote once per day. Thanks!! :seeya:

(P.S. you can vote more than once a day if you use different browser windows. ;) )

[beemer]

Time to vote again - this is Round 2.... :D

Vote for Jannis.....

http://www.sam-e.com/job/profile/155


You can vote once per day. Thanks!! :seeya:

(P.S. you can vote more than once a day if you use different browser windows. ;) )

Good for her Snoop-I take it she moved into this level? Voted. Wish her well.

[deacon]

Time to vote again - this is Round 2.... :D

Vote for Jannis.....

http://www.sam-e.com/job/profile/155


You can vote once per day. Thanks!! :seeya:

(P.S. you can vote more than once a day if you use different browser windows. ;) )

Datsa one

[deacon]

I am sitting here watching a History Channel special on World War Two. Thinking about my father. He died when I was 22. The one I am watching right now is talking about the group he fought with. He went accross North Africa, into Sicily and then on to Italy. He was the First Sergeant of an artillery unit that followed General Patton. A lot of years later I served in the same unit he did. Funny how that happened. I was able to visit the museum in Fort Sill Ok and see a display about the unit and all that they did over there. Kinda cool to see your father's name on the roster in a place like that. The Captain that was on site that day walked up and asked me what interested me so much about that unit. I guess I had been standing there for a while. I pointed to the name on the list and told him, "That is my father sir." That got his attention.:patriot:

[shadydaisy]

I am sitting here watching a History Channel special on World War Two. Thinking about my father. He died when I was 22. The one I am watching right now is talking about the group he fought with. He went accross North Africa, into Sicily and then on to Italy. He was the First Sergeant of an artillery unit that followed General Patton. A lot of years later I served in the same unit he did. Funny how that happened. I was able to visit the museum in Fort Sill Ok and see a display about the unit and all that they did over there. Kinda cool to see your father's name on the roster in a place like that. The Captain that was on site that day walked up and asked me what interested me so much about that unit. I guess I had been standing there for a while. I pointed to the name on the list and told him, "That is my father sir." That got his attention.:patriot:

Deacon, what a lovely story. I'm sure the Captain's heart swelled a bit.

[Nawny]

Last night at Costantinos I indulged myself after dinner with this dessert.

COPPA COSTANTINO-Chocolate fudge brownie & Chocolate Gelato drenched in hot fudge,topped with whipped cream and chocolate chips. That was after eating Filet Mignon wrapped in bacon drenched in wine,with scalloped potatoes, Escarole fried with fresh garlic- and I drank 3 Espresso Martini's. I think I met God's doorman. But he sent me away. :)

Poppa had the special which included Haddock in wine sauce stuffed with sauteed spinach and pinot nuts with a side of Fusilli pasta in a pink vodka cream sauce. For dessert he ate Chocolate Hazelnut Dome Cake-Chocolate dome filled with halved hazelnuts, chocolate chips over a cake layer laced with rum and hazelnut cream and covered with chocolate glaze, sprinkled with chocolate white curls. I told him if we continue to eat at Costantinos we won't live to see his next birthday!

Pigs! That's what we were last night. This morning, I exercised while waiting for my cawffee to brew. Did you ever do chin ups at the kitchen counter? The sound of the perking coffee was like a 747 going over the house. Damn that thing is loud.

Those Espresso Martinis are lethal! Ouch! I earned it! I deserved it! Right girls!? YAY!

Groan~ ~~ ~ ~ ~

:hat:

[Amy]

Last week, Daddy fell, again. This time in the little senior apartments they had just moved into. The doctor said, really, the time has come. They have to go to the nursing home. No discussion, no decisions--he has made the decision. They really have gone downhill mentally since he broke his hip in June. They were in hospital (because Mom wouldn't leave his side) for a week, in swing bed for a week, then in a nursing home for "intensive" rehab (BAH!!!! THEIR idea of intensive rehab sure wasn't what we expected!!!!) Then a couple of months in a rental house in town, then to the apartments. It was enough to get them totally confused, I am sure. We knew Mom was getting a little off track, but sure didn't see it in Daddy.

So, yesterday, 2 of the sisters moved them into the nursing home. Separate rooms for now, but they say they will try to get them together. It has to be hard, and strange--to be together for over 60 years, and now to be separated. But sis says they seemed to be okay with things yesterday. Of course, that changes with the wind, and wherever their minds take them. Just the other day, as I was taking Mom to the grocery store, Daddy followed us to the door and told me to look for a used car lot, and to get Mom a little used car. And, after cooking (well supervising) potato soup, Mom says she just ought to cook that with cornbread more often this winter. This, after the discussions that they will be going to the nursing home. Breaks your heart, it does. I tried to call sis last night, to see how things went, but couldn't reach her. I suppose the two of them sat down with the stiff drinks of their choice to end out the day.

Daddy turns 89 tomorrow. What a birthday present!!!

[SaraSidle]

Last night at Costantinos I indulged myself after dinner with this dessert.

COPPA COSTANTINO-Chocolate fudge brownie & Chocolate Gelato drenched in hot fudge,topped with whipped cream and chocolate chips. That was after eating Filet Mignon wrapped in bacon drenched in wine,with scalloped potatoes, Escarole fried with fresh garlic- and I drank 3 Espresso Martini's. I think I met God's doorman. But he sent me away. :)

Poppa had the special which included Haddock in wine sauce stuffed with sauteed spinach and pinot nuts with a side of Fusilli pasta in a pink vodka cream sauce. For dessert he ate Chocolate Hazelnut Dome Cake-Chocolate dome filled with halved hazelnuts, chocolate chips over a cake layer laced with rum and hazelnut cream and covered with chocolate glaze, sprinkled with chocolate white curls. I told him if we continue to eat at Costantinos we won't live to see his next birthday!

Pigs! That's what we were last night. This morning, I exercised while waiting for my cawffee to brew. Did you ever do chin ups at the kitchen counter? The sound of the perking coffee was like a 747 going over the house. Damn that thing is loud.

Those Espresso Martinis are lethal! Ouch! I earned it! I deserved it! Right girls!? YAY!

Groan~ ~~ ~ ~ ~

:hat:

I am so glad you had a wonderful meal and a great time. made me hungry espressos or not

[SaraSidle]

Last week, Daddy fell, again. This time in the little senior apartments they had just moved into. The doctor said, really, the time has come. They have to go to the nursing home. No discussion, no decisions--he has made the decision. They really have gone downhill mentally since he broke his hip in June. They were in hospital (because Mom wouldn't leave his side) for a week, in swing bed for a week, then in a nursing home for "intensive" rehab (BAH!!!! THEIR idea of intensive rehab sure wasn't what we expected!!!!) Then a couple of months in a rental house in town, then to the apartments. It was enough to get them totally confused, I am sure. We knew Mom was getting a little off track, but sure didn't see it in Daddy.

So, yesterday, 2 of the sisters moved them into the nursing home. Separate rooms for now, but they say they will try to get them together. It has to be hard, and strange--to be together for over 60 years, and now to be separated. But sis says they seemed to be okay with things yesterday. Of course, that changes with the wind, and wherever their minds take them. Just the other day, as I was taking Mom to the grocery store, Daddy followed us to the door and told me to look for a used car lot, and to get Mom a little used car. And, after cooking (well supervising) potato soup, Mom says she just ought to cook that with cornbread more often this winter. This, after the discussions that they will be going to the nursing home. Breaks your heart, it does. I tried to call sis last night, to see how things went, but couldn't reach her. I suppose the two of them sat down with the stiff drinks of their choice to end out the day.

Daddy turns 89 tomorrow. What a birthday present!!!

Amy I am so sorry. That must be so painful to watch. I hated that my grandma never knew me after she went to the N.H. In some ways I am relieved my parents never got to that point but passed away sooner. But then again there are days I wish they were here just so I could hug them.
It is all painful and draining. It is such a hard decision but I think it is the right one and your parents are together and in a place they will be looked after 24/7. sara

[Nawny]

Last week, Daddy fell, again. This time in the little senior apartments they had just moved into. The doctor said, really, the time has come. They have to go to the nursing home. No discussion, no decisions--he has made the decision. They really have gone downhill mentally since he broke his hip in June. They were in hospital (because Mom wouldn't leave his side) for a week, in swing bed for a week, then in a nursing home for "intensive" rehab (BAH!!!! THEIR idea of intensive rehab sure wasn't what we expected!!!!) Then a couple of months in a rental house in town, then to the apartments. It was enough to get them totally confused, I am sure. We knew Mom was getting a little off track, but sure didn't see it in Daddy.

So, yesterday, 2 of the sisters moved them into the nursing home. Separate rooms for now, but they say they will try to get them together. It has to be hard, and strange--to be together for over 60 years, and now to be separated. But sis says they seemed to be okay with things yesterday. Of course, that changes with the wind, and wherever their minds take them. Just the other day, as I was taking Mom to the grocery store, Daddy followed us to the door and told me to look for a used car lot, and to get Mom a little used car. And, after cooking (well supervising) potato soup, Mom says she just ought to cook that with cornbread more often this winter. This, after the discussions that they will be going to the nursing home. Breaks your heart, it does. I tried to call sis last night, to see how things went, but couldn't reach her. I suppose the two of them sat down with the stiff drinks of their choice to end out the day.

Daddy turns 89 tomorrow. What a birthday present!!!

Ah, old age is difficult. We're all going there though Amy, that's a fact. I'm glad your parents have loving kids. To see aged parents begin to fail is "heart breaking" yes. I noticed with my own mother, when we moved her while she was in the throws of Alzheimer's, she got worse. It is very easy to confuse them and a move will do it. I wish there was something I could do for you, or say to ease your broken heart. The only hope is that once they are orientated in the nursing home, things will get easier.

We went through it here with Joe's mom too. She took to the nursing after a few months. At first she tried to escape a few times. One time she had two other patients with her. She got into trouble for that caper. After a few months, she thought all the nurses and attendants worked for her. She had her own beauty parlor for 45 years, so she was the boss most of her life.

[Nawny]

Amy I am so sorry. That must be so painful to watch. I hated that my grandma never knew me after she went to the N.H. In some ways I am relieved my parents never got to that point but passed away sooner. But then again there are days I wish they were here just so I could hug them.
It is all painful and draining. It is such a hard decision but I think it is the right one and your parents are together and in a place they will be looked after 24/7. sara

You are so right sara. No caretaker at home can tend to them 24/7. It's impossible, though some have tried. Often it's the caretakers that fall to pieces emotionally, mentally and even physically before the elderly parents. There is actually a program here set in place to address the issues of the caretakers. It's all so very hard. I send prayers to Amy and her family.

[Nawny]

I am so glad you had a wonderful meal and a great time. made me hungry espressos or not

LOL! Oh Sara we are such foodies here. Poppa had a nice birthday party on Saturday with the family but we always go out to eat alone on our birthdays so we can be bad. Life is short he says, and we need to enjoy what we can before the ax falls. We've both worked so hard for so many years, it's time to enjoy! I can't believe he is 67 years old! Time flies. Im glad he had a happy birthday with his tipsy wife. (I don't drink usually and he got a great kick out of me last night!)


HAPPY BIRTHDAY POPPA!

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[JLette]

LOL! Oh Sara we are such foodies here. Poppa had a nice birthday party on Saturday with the family but we always go out to eat alone on our birthdays so we can be bad. Life is short he says, and we need to enjoy what we can before the ax falls. We've both worked so hard for so many years, it's time to enjoy! I can't believe he is 67 years old! Time flies. Im glad he had a happy birthday with his tipsy wife. (I don't drink usually and he got a great kick out of me last night!)


HAPPY BIRTHDAY POPPA!

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hahaha cute picture HAPPY BDAY TO POPPA!!!! :beer:

[SaraSidle]

LOL! Oh Sara we are such foodies here. Poppa had a nice birthday party on Saturday with the family but we always go out to eat alone on our birthdays so we can be bad. Life is short he says, and we need to enjoy what we can before the ax falls. We've both worked so hard for so many years, it's time to enjoy! I can't believe he is 67 years old! Time flies. Im glad he had a happy birthday with his tipsy wife. (I don't drink usually and he got a great kick out of me last night!)


HAPPY BIRTHDAY POPPA!

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wonderful picture...... HAPPY BIRTHDAY POPPA

[Nawny]

hahaha cute picture HAPPY BDAY TO POPPA!!!! :beer:

I'll give him your greetings J! Thank you.
Hey I hope you caught up on some sleep honey. That was brutal the other morning. You just had a baby, the last thing you need is stress aye!

Pamper yourself. Take a warm bubble bath, drink a cup of nice flavored tea and open a bag of Ruffles with ridges, and hang out on the couch with your two fine little gentlemen. Personally, I love M&M's with peanuts when I'm pampering myself.. :tongue: When my jeans won't zip up, I dust off the treadmill. It's a vicious cycle. I always :punch: myself.

[BeastofBears]

I am sitting here watching a History Channel special on World War Two. Thinking about my father. He died when I was 22. The one I am watching right now is talking about the group he fought with. He went accross North Africa, into Sicily and then on to Italy. He was the First Sergeant of an artillery unit that followed General Patton. A lot of years later I served in the same unit he did. Funny how that happened. I was able to visit the museum in Fort Sill Ok and see a display about the unit and all that they did over there. Kinda cool to see your father's name on the roster in a place like that. The Captain that was on site that day walked up and asked me what interested me so much about that unit. I guess I had been standing there for a while. I pointed to the name on the list and told him, "That is my father sir." That got his attention.:patriot:

That is so cool! :patriot:

[BeastofBears]

Last night at Costantinos I indulged myself after dinner with this dessert.

COPPA COSTANTINO-Chocolate fudge brownie & Chocolate Gelato drenched in hot fudge,topped with whipped cream and chocolate chips. That was after eating Filet Mignon wrapped in bacon drenched in wine,with scalloped potatoes, Escarole fried with fresh garlic- and I drank 3 Espresso Martini's. I think I met God's doorman. But he sent me away. :)

Poppa had the special which included Haddock in wine sauce stuffed with sauteed spinach and pinot nuts with a side of Fusilli pasta in a pink vodka cream sauce. For dessert he ate Chocolate Hazelnut Dome Cake-Chocolate dome filled with halved hazelnuts, chocolate chips over a cake layer laced with rum and hazelnut cream and covered with chocolate glaze, sprinkled with chocolate white curls. I told him if we continue to eat at Costantinos we won't live to see his next birthday!

Pigs! That's what we were last night. This morning, I exercised while waiting for my cawffee to brew. Did you ever do chin ups at the kitchen counter? The sound of the perking coffee was like a 747 going over the house. Damn that thing is loud.

Those Espresso Martinis are lethal! Ouch! I earned it! I deserved it! Right girls!? YAY!

Groan~ ~~ ~ ~ ~

:hat:

I have tears in my eyes, I want that bacon filet mignon so bad.

[Nawny]

I have tears in my eyes, I want that bacon filet mignon so bad.

When you get old like me, you can have all you want. :) There really is a pot of gold at the end of the rainbow. When the kids are out on their own and the laundry gets lower, the floors don't get dirty much, your time is yours and the sands of the hourglass begin to get bottom heavy, there is Fillet Mignon! Stay with it, ya rabble rousing redhead! :) It will come to you!

But if you can't wait, you come here, nawny and poppa will take you to Costantinos. :beer:

[Nawny]

I'm drinking my nightly Star Anise tea. I've been drinking it cold in the morning and hot like a tea at night for three weeks. I've not gotten even a little sniffle.

Saturday one of the weebles had an earache. My daughter took her to the walk-in because her pediatrician was gone for the day. They treated her like she was infected with the Swine Flu and after two cultures she was diagnosed with a simple ear infection. That was scary. My poor little weeb :(
Ear infections are so painful.

I told her to give the weebles Star Anise with some sweetener. Nobody listens to nawny. :confused:

[BeastofBears]

I'm drinking my nightly Star Anise tea. I've been drinking it cold in the morning and hot like a tea at night for three weeks. I've not gotten even a little sniffle.

Saturday one of the weebles had an earache. My daughter took her to the walk-in because her pediatrician was gone for the day. They treated her like she was infected with the Swine Flu and after two cultures she was diagnosed with a simple ear infection. That was scary. My poor little weeb :(
Ear infections are so painful.

I told her to give the weebles Star Anise with some sweetener. Nobody listens to nawny. :confused:

It's okay, Nawny! Try to give anyone good advice, they mark you for a crackpot! We are but the Cassandras of Troy...

[BeastofBears]

When you get old like me, you can have all you want. :) There really is a pot of gold at the end of the rainbow. When the kids are out on their own and the laundry gets lower, the floors don't get dirty much, your time is yours and the sands of the hourglass begin to get bottom heavy, there is Fillet Mignon! Stay with it, ya rabble rousing redhead! :) It will come to you!

But if you can't wait, you come here, nawny and poppa will take you to Costantinos. :beer:

Awww! If I ever get to RI, I will be on the doorstep, fork in hand, lol!

[SaraSidle]

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[BeastofBears]

Wooooof! That's Yoooooooooooge!

[beemer]

Nawny-wish poppa a happy belated-dinner sounded so........ good. And your right we have earned this rite of passage :beer:

[beemer]

Amy-my thoughts and prayer's are with you and your family during this difficult time. I hope they adjust well and you all can breathe easier knowing their safety is no longer an issue :rose:

[beemer]

deacon-what a proud moment for you and your Dad. That had to be a really special moment :patriot:

[BeastofBears]

wow. the nightstalker thread. just...wow. I mean "it's hard not feeling sympathy" for him? As a Californian he terrorized, I have to say, he is the person I am least likely to feel the sympathy instinct on. And that includes Richard Allen Davis!

[samanthajane13]

Marian's birthday party will resume in a couple of hours...I have to run down to HEAP about my gas bill...:(

[BeastofBears]

Marian's birthday party will resume in a couple of hours...I have to run down to HEAP about my gas bill...:(

Good luck!

[deacon]

deacon-what a proud moment for you and your Dad. That had to be a really special moment :patriot:

Yep, it was so nice to see him on that list. It has been 30 some odd years and I still miss him. I wish he could have seen my son. Looks a lot like my father but taller.

[old_soul]

Amy your story made me sad..only consolation is they are in the same place at the same time and still are able to be with each other daily...60 years Holy Cow! :rose:

Deacon.that was a sweet story..you must have felt very proud. Atta Boy. :patriot:

Loretta Darlin, I always worry about your nublets getting worn to the bone...Congratulations on not making your fingers bleed and may you post and type Forever! :beer:

Nawny Nawny Nawny...I had one english muffin for breakfast AND lunch...whattaya doing to me?! My mouth is salivating and my stomach is growling..Happy Birthday to Poppa 76 years Young!

Happy Belated Birthday to Marian..I will be sending my kids to you soon so that I can go to London too! Mama needs a vakay!

BoB, sj, and beem.......you are bad, bad girls, you know? Send over one of those Hawaiian Mind Zappers so I can go back to work a happy woman!

:seeya:

[samanthajane13]

Correction...the appointment is for TOMORROW.

PARTY ON!!!

[Nawny]

Amy your story made me sad..only consolation is they are in the same place at the same time and still are able to be with each other daily...60 years Holy Cow! :rose:

Deacon.that was a sweet story..you must have felt very proud. Atta Boy. :patriot:

Loretta Darlin, I always worry about your nublets getting worn to the bone...Congratulations on not making your fingers bleed and may you post and type Forever! :beer:

Nawny Nawny Nawny...I had one English muffin for breakfast AND lunch...whattaya doing to me?! My mouth is salivating and my stomach is growling..Happy Birthday to Poppa 76 years Young!Happy Belated Birthday to Marian..I will be sending my kids to you soon so that I can go to London too! Mama needs a vakay!

BoB, sj, and beem.......you are bad, bad girls, you know? Send over one of those Hawaiian Mind Zappers so I can go back to work a happy woman!

:seeya:



Putana! You made poppa ten years older.. lol!!! Did you smoke that English Muffin? He's 67.. don't let him hear you! shhhhh...


You eat, ya hear!? Indulge yourself. We woman work like dogs, why can't we eat chocolate and mashed potatoes and potato chips and and and... we can diet next week. Go for it baby! You too beem! lol! :beer:

So Marian is in London? Great for her! It's a very interesting place that.

I have an airfare voucher from a cancelled Caribbean trip that would take me there. Actually I'd like to find a kid friendly resort in the good ole USA.. any suggestions.. I think I may be Disney'd out. (Though I love Disney) I want to take the 5 weebles to a nice fun place in the Spring. One of my daughters wants to see California but I doubt the people on the plane would appreciate 5 weebs for 8 hours. They may not appreciate the miles of ocean and the lone Cypress tree.

:shrug:

[BeastofBears]

Putana! You made poppa ten years older.. lol!!! Did you smoke that English Muffin? He's 67.. don't let him hear you! shhhhh...


You eat, ya hear!? Indulge yourself. We woman work like dogs, why can't we eat chocolate and mashed potatoes and potato chips and and and... we can diet next week. Go for it baby! You too beem! lol! :beer:

So Marian is in London? Great for her! It's a very interesting place that.

I have an airfare voucher from a cancelled Caribbean trip that would take me there. Actually I'd like to find a kid friendly resort in the good ole USA.. any suggestions.. I think I may be Disney'd out. (Though I love Disney) I want to take the 5 weebles to a nice fun place in the Spring. One of my daughters wants to see California but I doubt the people on the plane would appreciate 5 weebs for 8 hours. They may not appreciate the miles of ocean and the lone Cypress tree.

:shrug:

Don't worry about the plane ride: let everyone suffer and deal. They'll get their turn someday.

Try Seascape Beach Resort in Monterey http://www.seascaperesort.com/index.cfm/Activities-Things_To_Do.htm . My SIL went there. Uber-kid friendly, tons for kids to do, close to Santa Cruz Beach Boardwalk, Monterey Bay Aquarium, and shooting distance to SF and the other amenities of the Bay Area. Heck, a $45 plane fare to Disneyland for that matter :)

Oh, and if you ever do go there, you have GOT to take the weebles to the Mystery Spot. It sounds so cheesy but turns out so cool! They would go nuts!

[Nawny]

Don't worry about the plane ride: let everyone suffer and deal. They'll get their turn someday.

Try Seascape Beach Resort in Monterey http://www.seascaperesort.com/index.cfm/Activities-Things_To_Do.htm . My SIL went there. Uber-kid friendly, tons for kids to do, close to Santa Cruz Beach Boardwalk, Monterey Bay Aquarium, and shooting distance to SF and the other amenities of the Bay Area. Heck, a $45 plane fare to Disneyland for that matter :)

Oh, and if you ever do go there, you have GOT to take the weebles to the Mystery Spot. It sounds so cheesy but turns out so cool! They would go nuts!

Ah, thank you BoB! I have been to the Monterrey Bay Aquarium. (But not with the weebs) I'll check out this site and send it forward to the 2 mommies. I'm game for anything as long as the weebles are with me. Poppa and I take them gallivanting while the parents go party. Sweet :)

[samanthajane13]

PARTY IN THE LOUNGE!!!

Marian's back!!!

Get your hula skirts on!!!!

[JLette]

oy i did something TERRIBLE today........did you guys know you can buy CHEESECAKE PREMADE???? in a TUB!!! hahaha yea i bought some and i bought some graham crackers....i have NO INTENTION of making anything pie like tho....naughty naughty.....lmao :punch::biggrin::beer:

[One2Snoop]

Bump....

Time to vote again - this is Round 2.... :D

Vote for Jannis.....

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You can vote once per day. Thanks!! :seeya:

(P.S. you can vote more than once a day if you use different browser windows. ;) )

[beemer]

Nawny if the weebles are into water fun stuff check out Kalahari resorts-there are 3 in the U.S. The one i know of is in Ohio-Daughter,her man and a bunch of couples just got back-they have a CANDY HUT!!!!! Just type it in and it should come up(google) Everything is under one roof and you can rent cabana's that have flat screen and couches etc in them. Room for lotsa weebles.

[beemer]

oy i did something TERRIBLE today........did you guys know you can buy CHEESECAKE PREMADE???? in a TUB!!! hahaha yea i bought some and i bought some graham crackers....i have NO INTENTION of making anything pie like tho....naughty naughty.....lmao :punch::biggrin::beer:

You go girl-P.S. New Moon released tomorrow :beer:

[JLette]

You go girl-P.S. New Moon released tomorrow :beer:

OMG i know!!!! it will take CENTURIES to get to my little small town theatre too, i think i might die waiting!!!! lol

[beemer]

OMG i know!!!! it will take CENTURIES to get to my little small town theatre too, i think i might die waiting!!!! lol

I know i am waiting a week or so-till all the tweenies and their Mom's have invaded.

[JLette]

I know i am waiting a week or so-till all the tweenies and their Mom's have invaded.

good idea! lol the place will be a mad house for the first week or so. i am gonna try and have money to see it, and if i am able to do THAT much then i am going to work hard at trying to convince my hubby to go see it with me. if i cant convince him then i know my sis will see it with me, but i wanted to give her the chance to put her boyfriend through that torture first lmao

[old_soul]

Putana! You made poppa ten years older.. lol!!! Did you smoke that English Muffin? He's 67.. don't let him hear you! shhhhh...


You eat, ya hear!? Indulge yourself. We woman work like dogs, why can't we eat chocolate and mashed potatoes and potato chips and and and... we can diet next week. Go for it baby! You too beem! lol! :beer:

So Marian is in London? Great for her! It's a very interesting place that.

I have an airfare voucher from a cancelled Caribbean trip that would take me there. Actually I'd like to find a kid friendly resort in the good ole USA.. any suggestions.. I think I may be Disney'd out. (Though I love Disney) I want to take the 5 weebles to a nice fun place in the Spring. One of my daughters wants to see California but I doubt the people on the plane would appreciate 5 weebs for 8 hours. They may not appreciate the miles of ocean and the lone Cypress tree.

:shrug:

hahahahahaha :o...I knew that!
Computer illiterate AND can't type for schitt, but Lord knows, I keep plugging...(he didn't see it, did he?!)

LMAO! :seeya:

[Nawny]

hahahahahaha :o...I knew that!
Computer illiterate AND can't type for schitt, but Lord knows, I keep plugging...(he didn't see it, did he?!)

LMAO! :seeya:

Haaaa!

That's alright, he didn't see it. Men are more vain than women...:rolleyes: We love you all the time, type or no type! :)
You're a good girl!

[Nawny]

Awww! If I ever get to RI, I will be on the doorstep, fork in hand, lol!

You come! Anytime! :)

[Nawny]

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Congrats Ms Lockhorn! All your wisdom, comic relief, sensitive editorials, hard work sending us links, and great fights for the children and weaker folk are well appreciated and respected. Carry on soldier!

:beer: Here's to a good soul with a big mouth. I mean, er, ah, .... ;) You know what I mean.. lol! And to add, it's amazing in that you got to ten thousand without getting banned once. :beer: I think you know people at the top, but I'm good with that. :hat:

I am eating potato chips in your honor. :)

God bless!

[old_soul]

OMG i know!!!! it will take CENTURIES to get to my little small town theatre too, i think i might die waiting!!!! lol

My daughter is going to see it tommorrow..want me to fill ya in? LOL!

I saw a news blub of people who saw the release/premiere ~ said they loved it and can't wait for the next one..I better catch up :read: I don't know anything about it........:shrug:

[SaraSidle]

My daughter is going to see it tommorrow..want me to fill ya in? LOL!

I saw a news blub of people who saw the release/premiere ~ said they loved it and can't wait for the next one..I better catch up :read: I don't know anything about it........:shrug:

wow are you out of the loop or what.............LOL I know nothing either.
Vampires do not do it for me. now if I was younger...............

[JLette]

wow are you out of the loop or what.............LOL I know nothing either.
Vampires do not do it for me. now if I was younger...............

lol i felt the same way at first, but beemer assured me i am in the clear hehehe so now i embrace my vampire addiction shamelessly :biggrin:

hubby is gonna take me my sister and her bf to see it whenever it gets here YAY!!!!!! and aww poor sissy's bf lol, at least my hubby won't have to suffer alone

[SaraSidle]

lol i felt the same way at first, but beemer assured me i am in the clear hehehe so now i embrace my vampire addiction shamelessly :biggrin:

hubby is gonna take me my sister and her bf to see it whenever it gets here YAY!!!!!! and aww poor sissy's bf lol, at least my hubby won't have to suffer alone\


I am totally glad for you. I know a lot of people into that movie. I watched so many vampire ,frankenstein and werewolves. they are cartoons now I overdosed on them. I like disaster movies. favorite is Independence Day.I loved Jurassic Park but I saw that one too many times.

[samanthajane13]

lol i felt the same way at first, but beemer assured me i am in the clear hehehe so now i embrace my vampire addiction shamelessly :biggrin:

hubby is gonna take me my sister and her bf to see it whenever it gets here YAY!!!!!! and aww poor sissy's bf lol, at least my hubby won't have to suffer alone

I haven't read the Twilight books, but I'm COMPLETELY HOOKED on Anne Rice & Chelsea Quinn Yarbro. If you want vampires with fully fleshed-out personalities, go to your local used book shop and grab yourself up some Yarbro!!!

Or look her up on www.alibris.com What a site for ANY used books!!!

MY GOD-Yarbro makes all the others look like novices!!

I think she started in the 70's and I have a good amount of her books, but she's STILL cranking them out!!! I can't seem to keep up with her production!!

Most of her stories follow her main character, Count de Saint Germain (although his name changes subtly, depending on the time and region of the book), and his friends and lovers from century to century, and all across the globe...and he LOVES...he's a vampire with beauty and soul.

He's NOT your average "run for the door screaming" Halloween vamp!!!

Yarbro has also written some non-vampire books, and they're all wonderful, as well!

She's one of my top 5 favorite authors.

[beemer]

Sara-ya are never too old for the Twilight series- My friends Mom just finished them and she is in her 80's and luved them. Not my typical type of read but i was so hooked. Very different. I cant wait to see New Moon :shrug:

[BeastofBears]

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I am totally glad for you. I know a lot of people into that movie. I watched so many vampire ,frankenstein and werewolves. they are cartoons now I overdosed on them. I like disaster movies. favorite is Independence Day.I loved Jurassic Park but I saw that one too many times.

Me, too, Sara! I even like the cheesy bad ones on SciFi Channel (I REFUSE to use their new spelling!)

[Nawny]

Two Ladies Talking in Heaven

1st woman: Hi! Wanda.
2nd woman: Hi! Sylvia. How'd you die?

1st woman: I froze to death
2nd woman: How horrible!

1st woman: It wasn't so bad. After I quit shaking from the cold, I began to get warm & sleepy, and finally died a peaceful death. What about you?

2nd woman: I died of a massive heart attack. I suspected that my husband was cheating, so I came home early to catch him in the act. But instead, I found him all by himself in the den watching TV.

1st woman: So, what happened?

2nd woman: I was so sure there was another woman there somewhere that I started running all over the house looking. I ran up into the attic and searched, and down into the basement. Then I went through every closet and checked under all the beds. I kept this up until I had looked everywhere, and finally I became so exhausted that I just keeled over with a heart attack and died.

1st woman: Too bad you didn't look in the freezer---we'd both still be alive.

[Nawny]

Well my reconstruction job is about finished here. The bathroom, but for the actual sink install, is finished. The bedroom is finished and it looks very nice. I hung the drapes today and the movers are coming tomorrow to get the furniture downstairs. The laundry room is done so I don't have to bring it down 2 flights of stairs and back up again. I'll send some before and after pics. :) Nawny is happy.

But, the friken landscaper didn't finish bagging the leaves yesterday after lowing them for hours, and most of them blew back where they were. He filled 40 bags so far. It rained this morning so he should have fun tomorrow. He is so fascinated with this old place, he asked if he could bring his metal detector and yesterday he found a license plate from 1928. LOL! Aye! More junk! He should have been bagging leaves instead of goofing off. Nuts!

[DrewBerry]

Last week, Daddy fell, again. This time in the little senior apartments they had just moved into. The doctor said, really, the time has come. They have to go to the nursing home. No discussion, no decisions--he has made the decision. They really have gone downhill mentally since he broke his hip in June. They were in hospital (because Mom wouldn't leave his side) for a week, in swing bed for a week, then in a nursing home for "intensive" rehab (BAH!!!! THEIR idea of intensive rehab sure wasn't what we expected!!!!) Then a couple of months in a rental house in town, then to the apartments. It was enough to get them totally confused, I am sure. We knew Mom was getting a little off track, but sure didn't see it in Daddy.

So, yesterday, 2 of the sisters moved them into the nursing home. Separate rooms for now, but they say they will try to get them together. It has to be hard, and strange--to be together for over 60 years, and now to be separated. But sis says they seemed to be okay with things yesterday. Of course, that changes with the wind, and wherever their minds take them. Just the other day, as I was taking Mom to the grocery store, Daddy followed us to the door and told me to look for a used car lot, and to get Mom a little used car. And, after cooking (well supervising) potato soup, Mom says she just ought to cook that with cornbread more often this winter. This, after the discussions that they will be going to the nursing home. Breaks your heart, it does. I tried to call sis last night, to see how things went, but couldn't reach her. I suppose the two of them sat down with the stiff drinks of their choice to end out the day.

Daddy turns 89 tomorrow. What a birthday present!!!

Hi Amy,
I'm very sorry that you're heart is breaking right now. It is a tough part of life. Tough decision but bottom line, your parents are in a safe environment. I hope you and your sisters can lean on one another.
Take care,
DrewB

[BeastofBears]

Well my reconstruction job is about finished here. The bathroom, but for the actual sink install, is finished. The bedroom is finished and it looks very nice. I hung the drapes today and the movers are coming tomorrow to get the furniture downstairs. The laundry room is done so I don't have to bring it down 2 flights of stairs and back up again. I'll send some before and after pics. :) Nawny is happy.

But, the friken landscaper didn't finish bagging the leaves yesterday after lowing them for hours, and most of them blew back where they were. He filled 40 bags so far. It rained this morning so he should have fun tomorrow. He is so fascinated with this old place, he asked if he could bring his metal detector and yesterday he found a license plate from 1928. LOL! Aye! More junk! He should have been bagging leaves instead of goofing off. Nuts!

Have him clear-cut that forest, Nawny, then less problems! And he'll be too busy to have fun.

[DrewBerry]

Two Ladies Talking in Heaven

1st woman: Hi! Wanda.
2nd woman: Hi! Sylvia. How'd you die?

1st woman: I froze to death
2nd woman: How horrible!

1st woman: It wasn't so bad. After I quit shaking from the cold, I began to get warm & sleepy, and finally died a peaceful death. What about you?

2nd woman: I died of a massive heart attack. I suspected that my husband was cheating, so I came home early to catch him in the act. But instead, I found him all by himself in the den watching TV.

1st woman: So, what happened?

2nd woman: I was so sure there was another woman there somewhere that I started running all over the house looking. I ran up into the attic and searched, and down into the basement. Then I went through every closet and checked under all the beds. I kept this up until I had looked everywhere, and finally I became so exhausted that I just keeled over with a heart attack and died.

1st woman: Too bad you didn't look in the freezer---we'd both still be alive.

Good one Nawny, my friend! Thanks for the laugh! I was thinking about you today. Haven't seen much of you on the other threads. Sounds like you've been one busy woman. Can't wait to see your before and after pics!
:seeya:
DrewB

[Amy]

Well my reconstruction job is about finished here. The bathroom, but for the actual sink install, is finished. The bedroom is finished and it looks very nice. I hung the drapes today and the movers are coming tomorrow to get the furniture downstairs. The laundry room is done so I don't have to bring it down 2 flights of stairs and back up again. I'll send some before and after pics. :) Nawny is happy.

But, the friken landscaper didn't finish bagging the leaves yesterday after lowing them for hours, and most of them blew back where they were. He filled 40 bags so far. It rained this morning so he should have fun tomorrow. He is so fascinated with this old place, he asked if he could bring his metal detector and yesterday he found a license plate from 1928. LOL! Aye! More junk! He should have been bagging leaves instead of goofing off. Nuts!

Congrats on the reno about being wrapped up!!! Bet you are going to enjoy it--especially the laundry part. Well, don't suspect you will ever enjoy laundry, lol. Just the fact that you don't have to hike a couple of miles to get it from here to there!!!!

Hope you don't pay the landscaper by the hour!!! :eek:

[Amy]

Hi Amy,
I'm very sorry that you're heart is breaking right now. It is a tough part of life. Tough decision but bottom line, your parents are in a safe environment. I hope you and your sisters can lean on one another.
Take care,
DrewB

Thank you and all the others for the words of support.

Today they came to my town (but I was @ work :() where the movie theater has a senior day and folks from nursing homes all around come to see a movie. Today's was about Amelia Earhart. Sis asked if Mom enjoyed it. She said yes, but she already knew how it would end!!! :D Daddy said it was alright, but he couldn't hear!!

I think Mom is going to be okay- there are people to talk to and things to do. They were out in the middle of nowhere, and all the folks their age from around there are dead or in nursing homes. Daddy isn't so social, and can't hear. He was used to being able to putter around the garage, push a lawn mower, and now he doesn't have any of that to occupy his time.

[DrewBerry]

Thank you and all the others for the words of support.

Today they came to my town (but I was @ work :() where the movie theater has a senior day and folks from nursing homes all around come to see a movie. Today's was about Amelia Earhart. Sis asked if Mom enjoyed it. She said yes, but she already knew how it would end!!! :D Daddy said it was alright, but he couldn't hear!!

I think Mom is going to be okay- there are people to talk to and things to do. They were out in the middle of nowhere, and all the folks their age from around there are dead or in nursing homes. Daddy isn't so social, and can't hear. He was used to being able to putter around the garage, push a lawn mower, and now he doesn't have any of that to occupy his time.

Amy, I think it is pretty darn good that your Dad at age 89 could sit through a movie! Glad they're getting out with a group. Your Mom probably needs it.
It's a big adjustment for them as well as the rest of the family. Hang in there.
DrewB

[Nawny]

Congrats on the reno about being wrapped up!!! Bet you are going to enjoy it--especially the laundry part. Well, don't suspect you will ever enjoy laundry, lol. Just the fact that you don't have to hike a couple of miles to get it from here to there!!!!

Hope you don't pay the landscaper by the hour!!! :eek:

Thank you Amy.. it is a big relief. My house has been up side down since August :) Nah We pay Bruno by the job.. LOL! He's a character that guy.

[Nawny]

Have him clear-cut that forest, Nawny, then less problems! And he'll be too busy to have fun.

LOL!!!! Everyone has fun at Nawny's house! It's a meatball heaven. :)

[Nawny]

Good one Nawny, my friend! Thanks for the laugh! I was thinking about you today. Haven't seen much of you on the other threads. Sounds like you've been one busy woman. Can't wait to see your before and after pics!
:seeya:
DrewB

Hi Drew B! How are you feeling? I've been in a funk this past month but I'm feeling better. I don't go on the other threads much, I should check them out more.
You take care!