Anything else you want to discuss goes here

[Nawny]

that is so wrong Nawny. she should hbe been at home and hospice could come in and help. I would love to have you as my sister. We took care of my dad at home which were his wishes. He never had to go to a hospital thank goodness. I really think dying wishes should be honored if possible. IMO

Thank you sara.. I'd love to be your sister. :)

We did have her at home for a while but it was impossible after the stroke. She had to be carried. I took care of my FIL until a few days before he died of Pancreatic cancer. It was hard, but it was better than seeing him go through the system. Terminally ill patients in nursing homes should be illegal. My sister's general care was done by the family for the most part. She was so scared, we couldn't leave her alone. After her stroke she was so confused and helpless she didn't seem to care about anything, but she was able to smile. I'm a clown and she always smiled at me. SOmetimes I look up at the sky and I swear I can still see her smiling. :rose:

[Nawny]

I'd better go keep poppa comany in the den. NG is on.. groan...

BTW, they atarted the work on the back rooms yesterday. The room where the bathroom is going, is already gutted. They blocked up one window and the door to the outside is going to be blocked up tomorrow. I made calzones for the crew today. I'm brown nosing them to get them to hurry up. ;) I'm looking forward to the whirlpool air tub. It has colored lights in it. Its one of those Living Series. I'm so excited. lol!

Pretty soon I will have a laundry room on this floor so I can ignore laundry closer to my kitchen, lap top and stove.

:seeya:

[SaraSidle]

Thank you sara.. I'd love to be your sister. :)

We did have her at home for a while but it was impossible after the stroke. She had to be carried. I took care of my FIL until a few days before he died of Pancreatic cancer. It was hard, but it was better than seeing him go through the system. Terminally ill patients in nursing homes should be illegal. My sister's general care was done by the family for the most part. She was so scared, we couldn't leave her alone. After her stroke she was so confused and helpless she didn't seem to care about anything, but she was able to smile. I'm a clown and she always smiled at me. SOmetimes I look up at the sky and I swear I can still see her smiling. :rose:

IMO you are seeing her smile. I always dream of my family. so cool.

[SaraSidle]

I'd better go keep poppa comany in the den. NG is on.. groan...

BTW, they atarted the work on the back rooms yesterday. The room where the bathroom is going, is already gutted. They blocked up one window and the door to the outside is going to be blocked up tomorrow. I made calzones for the crew today. I'm brown nosing them to get them to hurry up. ;) I'm looking forward to the whirlpool air tub. It has colored lights in it. Its one of those Living Series. I'm so excited. lol!

Pretty soon I will have a laundry room on this floor so I can ignore laundry closer to my kitchen, lap top and stove.

:seeya:

Oh I just love it. a sparkling whirlpool tub. that will be so wonderful for you Nawny and poppa. all the aches and pains just melting away. no steps means you will have to find another way to exercise of course.

[Marian Paroo]

Yes, it is sick and twisted but no more sick and twisted than when a father does the same thing to his daughter. The crime is the same and the punishment should be the same.:flamemad:

Thank you for that Deacon.

I've seen old medical/psychology/psychiatry books at work where they insist that mothers who rape their sons are worse than men who rape their daughters.

Me, I think that is a lot of shyte. Both are wrong and evil in exactly the same degree.

If anything, raping a daughter is worse, because of the possiblity of pregnancy.

[deacon]

Thank you for that Deacon.

I've seen old medical/psychology/psychiatry books at work where they insist that mothers who rape their sons are worse than men who rape their daughters.

Me, I think that is a lot of shyte. Both are wrong and evil in exactly the same degree.

If anything, raping a daughter is worse, because of the possiblity of pregnancy.

Rape is rape, no matter which way you go.

[Nawny]

We're doomed. :eek:


Congressman says some people aren't worth peeing on
Posted: September 15th, 2009 03:56 PM ET


Pete Stark is involved in his own classic YouTube moment.
(CNN) — Rep. Barney Frank, D-Massachusetts, raised eyebrows last month when he told a constituent at a raucous health care town hall event, "Trying to have a conversation with you would be like arguing with a dining room table."

Now Rep. Pete Stark, D-California, is involved in a similar instant YouTube classic, telling a town-hall participant over the weekend that he wouldn't "waste the urine" to pee on the man's leg.

First reported by the San Francisco Chronicle and confirmed by a YouTube clip of the event, the longtime congressman made the remark after the participant launched into a long, but calm, litany about government inefficiency when it comes to nation's health care system. The man concluded his remarks with warning Stark not to "pee on my leg and tell me it's raining."

As the audience cheered, a calm Stark responded: "Well, I wouldn't dignify you by peeing on your leg. It wouldn't be worth wasting the urine."

There was a mixture of laughter and boos as Stark motioned for the next question.


http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2009/09/15/congressman-says-some-people-arent-worth-peeing-on/

[Nawny]

Oh I just love it. a sparkling whirlpool tub. that will be so wonderful for you Nawny and poppa. all the aches and pains just melting away. no steps means you will have to find another way to exercise of course.

Haa! Very true. :-)

[Nawny]

IMO you are seeing her smile. I always dream of my family. so cool.

You know how it is when you're taking care of someone you love who is terminally ill sara. It makes you think of how you want things to go when, or if it happens to you, doesn't it? I'm not sure what I want. I Know it's a lot for loved ones to do, so I often think I'd want them to put me in a hospital and throw away the key to my room. Other times I know the good feelings I had for loving a sick relative and making them comfortable. There is something about it, ya know? I mean there is almost no choice to make. It kinda comes naturally and I suppose it should. However difficult.

[shadydaisy]

Oh I just love it. a sparkling whirlpool tub. that will be so wonderful for you Nawny and poppa. all the aches and pains just melting away. no steps means you will have to find another way to exercise of course.

I'm soooo jealous! I really want to gut my bathroom and start over from the studs. We've done basic upgrades, but it really needs a total overhaul. Love the tubs with the whirpools built in.

Rape is rape, no matter which way you go.

Amen.

[Nawny]

I'd love to see BoB's reaction to this guy's site. Talk about Rush Limbaugh? He's a wimp compared to this one. I guess he doesn't like Obama. :tongue: Let's talk about media,, rotfl!

http://www.geoffmetcalf.com/

[shadydaisy]

Jlette news?

[One2Snoop]

I was just thinking the same thing shady. Anyone heard from Jlette lately?

[Nawny]

I was just thinking the same thing shady. Anyone heard from Jlette lately?

Nope. No news is great news in this case. :) A new weeble wobbble to love is surely here! :)

[Nawny]

[QUOTE=shadydaisy;9219891]I'm soooo jealous! I really want to gut my bathroom and start over from the studs. We've done basic upgrades, but it really needs a total overhaul. Love the tubs with the whirpools built in.

I've been improvising for so many years, I don't' know what to do with choices. I think I'll always be in survival mode. I'm keeping the bathroom simple. It was once the part of the house that was used for an office, so it's big. But I'm having him put a laundry area that can be hidden with doors, so the bathroom won't be so big. And I'll most likely keep those doors shut until the laundry overflows and opens them.

My SIL is a master plumber, so I got lucky there. The contracting work is being done by a hired contractor who is excellent at his craft. So I got lucky there too. My SIL talked me out of the whirlpool type tub that uses water jets. He said they are problematic and told us to get an air tub.

This air tub isn't very pretty actually. It's full of holes. Big ones, small ones but still full of hole. Like liar's stories. ;-)

[Nawny]

A new planet was discovered. http://www.cnn.com/2009/TECH/space/09/16/new.rocky.planet/index.html

It's 500 light years away. My calculator won't calculate it. :shrug: I dont like what they named it. CoRo T 7b. I think they should have named it Hotflash. Or Menopaws... Because it's hot on one side and cold on the other. http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-laughing013.gif (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php)

[BeastofBears]

A new planet was discovered. http://www.cnn.com/2009/TECH/space/09/16/new.rocky.planet/index.html

It's 500 light years away. My calculator won't calculate it. :shrug: I dont like what they named it. CoRo T 7b. I think they should have named it Hotflash. Or Menopaws... Because it's hot on one side and cold on the other. http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-laughing013.gif (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php)

They should just call it Planet BoB. I have a dark side, too :D

We were going to a doctor's appt today and flipping saw a plane crash! Big fireball. The pilot lived, hooray! http://cbs5.com/

[BeastofBears]

We're doomed. :eek:


Congressman says some people aren't worth peeing on
Posted: September 15th, 2009 03:56 PM ET


Pete Stark is involved in his own classic YouTube moment.
(CNN) — Rep. Barney Frank, D-Massachusetts, raised eyebrows last month when he told a constituent at a raucous health care town hall event, "Trying to have a conversation with you would be like arguing with a dining room table."

Now Rep. Pete Stark, D-California, is involved in a similar instant YouTube classic, telling a town-hall participant over the weekend that he wouldn't "waste the urine" to pee on the man's leg.

First reported by the San Francisco Chronicle and confirmed by a YouTube clip of the event, the longtime congressman made the remark after the participant launched into a long, but calm, litany about government inefficiency when it comes to nation's health care system. The man concluded his remarks with warning Stark not to "pee on my leg and tell me it's raining."

As the audience cheered, a calm Stark responded: "Well, I wouldn't dignify you by peeing on your leg. It wouldn't be worth wasting the urine."

There was a mixture of laughter and boos as Stark motioned for the next question.


http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2009/09/15/congressman-says-some-people-arent-worth-peeing-on/

I don't know if you realize how sore a spot this is, Nawn...HE'S MINE!!!!! OH, YEAH, THIS UNSPEAKABLE WEE-WEE-ER IS ON MY BALLOTS!!!!! I despise Stark.

The only politician in my area that is worth their salt (and my vote) is Diane Feinstein, imo.

[BeastofBears]

Rape is rape, no matter which way you go.

I'm totally with you guys. There should be no gender differentiation when it comes to punishing sex crimes. Well, heck, any crimes.

[SaraSidle]

You know how it is when you're taking care of someone you love who is terminally ill sara. It makes you think of how you want things to go when, or if it happens to you, doesn't it? I'm not sure what I want. I Know it's a lot for loved ones to do, so I often think I'd want them to put me in a hospital and throw away the key to my room. Other times I know the good feelings I had for loving a sick relative and making them comfortable. There is something about it, ya know? I mean there is almost no choice to make. It kinda comes naturally and I suppose it should. However difficult.

Funny you just posted this. DH and I were just talking about him spending time with his dad as he is dying. He wants to drive his dad around old spots they used to hang out together for good memories near the house but is afraid something might happen to his dad and he has no medical skills. I told him If I am ever dying you better make sure I am home. And if I want to go see the beach you take me. And if my time comes and I am at the beach so be it..........:cool: I know there would be problems with some people due to IV's and oxygen tanks but it can be done with enough help. Hospice would help with that also I am sure..................sara

[Amy]

They should just call it Planet BoB. I have a dark side, too :D

We were going to a doctor's appt today and flipping saw a plane crash! Big fireball. The pilot lived, hooray! http://cbs5.com/

I always like happy endings!!!

About Bob...I worked w/a nurse whose hubby cooked food and snacks that she would bring to work. One day, they were in town and stopped by work. I went up to him and said, "Bob, so glad to meet you!!! We hear about you all the time!!!" Silence....His name is STEVE!!!! He has a good sense of humor, tho. Even made me the snack with worechestershire (sp) and Chex cereal. Labled the containers From BOB. :D

[Nawny]

New Tell All book (Speech Less) about Bush. Some excerpts published today. LOL! James Carville is maaaad! :cuss:

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/

[SaraSidle]

I was just thinking the same thing shady. Anyone heard from Jlette lately?

She has been lurking at night. Last time was Monday night. Have not seen her last night or today yet!!!!!!!!!

[SaraSidle]

They should just call it Planet BoB. I have a dark side, too :D

We were going to a doctor's appt today and flipping saw a plane crash! Big fireball. The pilot lived, hooray! http://cbs5.com/

WOW he better play the lottery very lucky

[BeastofBears]

I'd love to see BoB's reaction to this guy's site. Talk about Rush Limbaugh? He's a wimp compared to this one. I guess he doesn't like Obama. :tongue: Let's talk about media,, rotfl!

http://www.geoffmetcalf.com/

Hey, I remember this guy! He used to have a radio show here...He's a pussycat compared to Michael Savage. Now there's a guy on the edge. http://www.michaelsavage.wnd.com/

I don't listen to Rush Limbaugh. I used to listen to Dennis Miller in the same time slot, he was great, nice to hear a sense of humor, but I guess he was too expensive because he got replaced with Deadly Boring Local Economist.

[Nawny]

I don't know if you realize how sore a spot this is, Nawn...HE'S MINE!!!!! OH, YEAH, THIS UNSPEAKABLE WEE-WEE-ER IS ON MY BALLOTS!!!!! I despise Stark.

The only politician in my area that is worth their salt (and my vote) is Diane Feinstein, imo.

Uh oh! LOL! Well he isn't going to tinkle in any of the toilets in the white house baby, that's a given. He just committed political suicide. Problem solved.

That was a nice old man he insulted. The man is one of the pre baby boomer's who put ordinary men in that big ole white house.

Diane Feinstein hmmmm, that sounds like a nice girl from Queens.

[SaraSidle]

I don't know if you realize how sore a spot this is, Nawn...HE'S MINE!!!!! OH, YEAH, THIS UNSPEAKABLE WEE-WEE-ER IS ON MY BALLOTS!!!!! I despise Stark.

The only politician in my area that is worth their salt (and my vote) is Diane Feinstein, imo.

I thought maybe you had voted for him. J/K.. I laughed till I cried when I read the post. Our government at work. we are becoming uncivilized imo

[SaraSidle]

I always like happy endings!!!

About Bob...I worked w/a nurse whose hubby cooked food and snacks that she would bring to work. One day, they were in town and stopped by work. I went up to him and said, "Bob, so glad to meet you!!! We hear about you all the time!!!" Silence....His name is STEVE!!!! He has a good sense of humor, tho. Even made me the snack with worechestershire (sp) and Chex cereal. Labled the containers From BOB. :D

there is medication for that and I am trying to find it..........LOL:seeya:

[Nawny]

Hey, I remember this guy! He used to have a radio show here...He's a pussycat compared to Michael Savage. Now there's a guy on the edge. http://www.michaelsavage.wnd.com/

I don't listen to Rush Limbaugh. I used to listen to Dennis Miller in the same time slot, he was great, nice to hear a sense of humor, but I guess he was too expensive because he got replaced with Deadly Boring Local Economist.

I know Geoffrey Metcalf and Michael Savage ( appropriate name) I don't understand that these guys do much of anything for the greater good. They get off on insulting people and they waste air. Rush can get under my skin. When I'm listening to him in the car, and actually realize it, I turn him off. They seem to think Liberals are the lowest form of pond scum, but I don't see any of them running for office or working for the betterment of mankind.

Rush Limbaugh is a bum! And why does Metcalf use the word "myopic" in almost every article?

[deacon]

I know Geoffrey Metcalf and Michael Savage ( appropriate name) I don't understand that these guys do much of anything for the greater good. They get off on insulting people and they waste air. Rush can get under my skin. When I'm listening to him in the car, and actually realize it, I turn him off. They seem to think Liberals are the lowest form of pond scum, but I don't see any of them running for office or working for the betterment of mankind.

Rush Limbaugh is a bum! And why does Metcalf use the word "myopic" in almost every article?

The funny thing about "political" people is that they do not want to understand that the correct answer is at neither end of the spectrum. It is somewhere in the middle. The only thing plain about both sides of the aisle is that they protect people with money and none of them is honest. I guess that is why so many of them are lawyers. The come by these traits naturally.

[BeastofBears]

Uh oh! LOL! Well he isn't going to tinkle in any of the toilets in the white house baby, that's a given. He just committed political suicide. Problem solved.

That was a nice old man he insulted. The man is one of the pre baby boomer's who put ordinary men in that big ole white house.

Diane Feinstein hmmmm, that sounds like a nice girl from Queens.

No matter what Pete Stark does, he never goes away. Just google his name and "jerk"-this isn't the first. Where I live, as long as there is a "D" after his name, he will always win. Unless he gets an in-party challenge, he will never go away.

As for Dianne Feinstein, she's been around forever here. I will never forget her making the announcement that Mayor Moscone and Harvey Milk had been murdered in City Hall. She became mayor after that, a very good mayor. Just little things showed her personal integrity for me: refusing to be placed at the front of the hospital line when she broke her arm in China, performing cpr on a guy in a restaurant, and keeping going even when he vomited on her, politely asking us not to throw eggs at the Russkies in the SF consulate after they shot down the Korean airliner (I ditched high school for that one! Fun!)...so I may not always agree with her, but I respect her, very rare in politicians. She should feel honored, lol!

imo, moo.

[BeastofBears]

I know Geoffrey Metcalf and Michael Savage ( appropriate name) I don't understand that these guys do much of anything for the greater good. They get off on insulting people and they waste air. Rush can get under my skin. When I'm listening to him in the car, and actually realize it, I turn him off. They seem to think Liberals are the lowest form of pond scum, but I don't see any of them running for office or working for the betterment of mankind.

Rush Limbaugh is a bum! And why does Metcalf use the word "myopic" in almost every article?

I guess it's his Big Word. Mine is parsimonious. As in: I wish Obama was more parsimonious about spending money we don't have (and that isn't his anyway!)

Rush just strikes me as NTB. Not his political point of view, necessarily, but how he expresses it. It might be generational. We Baby Busters are really darkly sarcastic and appreciate it in others. He's just...right there, KWIM? So maybe that's why I liked Dennis Miller...boy I miss him! His show made me happy in the mornings. Now I have nothing but my Billy Idol cd...

[BeastofBears]

The funny thing about "political" people is that they do not want to understand that the correct answer is at neither end of the spectrum. It is somewhere in the middle. The only thing plain about both sides of the aisle is that they protect people with money and none of them is honest. I guess that is why so many of them are lawyers. The come by these traits naturally.

You nailed it, deacon! I think that the dissatisfaction we see out there with government is because those of us in the enormous middle are scared by the extremes of both sides.

Oh, and most of us don't have money.

[BeastofBears]

I have a random question for all:

If you could make a wish and solve one "cold case" that you know of, what would it be? And if its not famous, fill us in...

[SaraSidle]

I have a random question for all:

If you could make a wish and solve one "cold case" that you know of, what would it be? And if its not famous, fill us in...

Tara Grinstead

[Nawny]

I have a random question for all:

If you could make a wish and solve one "cold case" that you know of, what would it be? And if its not famous, fill us in...

Good question. There are so many, but I'll go with Natalie Holloway.

[Marian Paroo]

Lemme think. I want to give one for Israel, and one for the USA.

[deacon]

You nailed it, deacon! I think that the dissatisfaction we see out there with government is because those of us in the enormous middle are scared by the extremes of both sides.

Oh, and most of us don't have money.

That is the oxymoron? the more money you have, the less taxes you pay. No matter your party or which party is in power.

[Marian Paroo]

That is the oxymoron? the more money you have, the less taxes you pay. No matter your party or which party is in power.

Wanted to "rep" you for that, but can't :( -- I got spread my repping out a little more. Same here. Netanyahu robs from the middle class to give to the rich. And to the fundamentalist poor, but that's another story...

[Nawny]

I guess it's his Big Word. Mine is parsimonious. As in: I wish Obama was more parsimonious about spending money we don't have (and that isn't his anyway!)

Rush just strikes me as NTB. Not his political point of view, necessarily, but how he expresses it. It might be generational. We Baby Busters are really darkly sarcastic and appreciate it in others. He's just...right there, KWIM? So maybe that's why I liked Dennis Miller...boy I miss him! His show made me happy in the mornings. Now I have nothing but my Billy Idol cd...

That's a lot! Be grateful! :punch:


;)

[Nawny]

No matter what Pete Stark does, he never goes away. Just google his name and "jerk"-this isn't the first. Where I live, as long as there is a "D" after his name, he will always win. Unless he gets an in-party challenge, he will never go away.As for Dianne Feinstein, she's been around forever here. I will never forget her making the announcement that Mayor Moscone and Harvey Milk had been murdered in City Hall. She became mayor after that, a very good mayor. Just little things showed her personal integrity for me: refusing to be placed at the front of the hospital line when she broke her arm in China, performing cpr on a guy in a restaurant, and keeping going even when he vomited on her, politely asking us not to throw eggs at the Russkies in the SF consulate after they shot down the Korean airliner (I ditched high school for that one! Fun!)...so I may not always agree with her, but I respect her, very rare in politicians. She should feel honored, lol!

imo, moo.


We have Barney Frank in our neighboring state of Ma. He calls people Dinning room tables. Wanna trade? Diane Feinstein: I could like her. She' sounds like a real person. Politics is something like that theory of relativity. If we keep going in a straight line, we'll end up exactly where we started. Nowhere?

So many, now dead and buried, have fought for the right causes. They got nowhere too. I used to get involved in politics and I learned to take charge of my own little world because it is the only place I can be in charge. After I read Man's Search for Meaning, I knew government wasn't going to change. I also realised what we can be/what is possible, on an individual level.

Somewhere in my 30's I decided to stop believing politicians. The idea of hero worship just doesn't occur to me anymore. Unless there is a situation where people are helping people (as in the case of 911) I'm not into pedestal construction. I was raised Catholic. That's what convinced me.

I hope Obama doesn't sell out, but he may have no choice. I don't think the wizard of Oz is black anyway. BO is probably doomed.

:shrug:

[Nawny]

Hey Beem! You can come home now. :punch: We miss you!

:seeya:

[Nawny]

I finished my yellow umbrella painting.. I think. I got so lost in the lavender flowers I started seeing everything lavender. I get to over painting at times, but I think it's done. I started the shell painting yesterday and it's all wrong. I can't tell which are oysters and which are clam shells. I'm doing that painting for a friend of my sister. She thinks I'm an artist. :rolleyes: I try.

[BeastofBears]

We have Barney Frank in our neighboring state of Ma. He calls people Dinning room tables. Wanna trade? Diane Feinstein: I could like her. She' sounds like a real person. Politics is something like that theory of relativity. If we keep going in a straight line, we'll end up exactly where we started. Nowhere?

So many, now dead and buried, have fought for the right causes. They got nowhere too. I used to get involved in politics and I learned to take charge of my own little world because it is the only place I can be in charge. After I read Man's Search for Meaning, I knew government wasn't going to change. I also realised what we can be/what is possible, on an individual level.

Somewhere in my 30's I decided to stop believing politicians. The idea of hero worship just doesn't occur to me anymore. Unless there is a situation where people are helping people (as in the case of 911) I'm not into pedestal construction. I was raised Catholic. That's what convinced me.

I hope Obama doesn't sell out, but he may have no choice. I don't think the wizard of Oz is black anyway. BO is probably doomed.

:shrug:

I always feel for the young voters now, when they get all excited about some politician. Obama is the most recent. But I used to get all excited, too. And they all let me down. I know I'm jaded, but it's not pessimism if it's true...

My only heroes are dead, because the living will always come up with something to disappoint. Mother Teresa, for example: we know she's not going to run off with a priest or something, so she is now "safe" to admire! That's one thing I hope to teach my kids, don't idolize. Respect, yes, but know that everyone is human, and accept their faults when they happen. Because they WILL happen.

[BeastofBears]

Lemme think. I want to give one for Israel, and one for the USA.

Please do!

I am torn between Grace Asuncion and Jenny Lin, two local cases. Grace was viciously stabbed in Eshleman Hall on campus, never solved.

But I think I would go for Jenny Lin. 15 years ago, 14-year-old Jenny was in her home, talking with a friend on the phone. Within an hour, her father came home to find her stabbed to death in the bathroom. Not raped, just stabbed. She was a talented violinist and her parent's only child. They put up billboards advertising a $100,000 reward to this day, so we see her all the time, and they hold vigils every year. The police and the FBI reportedly found no evidence at all. It's just a total mystery.

[deacon]

Wanted to "rep" you for that, but can't :( -- I got spread my repping out a little more. Same here. Netanyahu robs from the middle class to give to the rich. And to the fundamentalist poor, but that's another story...

That seems to be the portion of society that is left out the most and are paying most of the bills. The thing I can not figure out is why we continue to send the same "not so smart" people to Washington to make decisions.

[deacon]

I finished my yellow umbrella painting.. I think. I got so lost in the lavender flowers I started seeing everything lavender. I get to over painting at times, but I think it's done. I started the shell painting yesterday and it's all wrong. I can't tell which are oysters and which are clam shells. I'm doing that painting for a friend of my sister. She thinks I'm an artist. :rolleyes: I try.

I've seen your work, you are. Much better than people who are world famous for it.

[Nawny]

I always feel for the young voters now, when they get all excited about some politician. Obama is the most recent. But I used to get all excited, too. And they all let me down. I know I'm jaded, but it's not pessimism if it's true...

My only heroes are dead, because the living will always come up with something to disappoint. Mother Teresa, for example: we know she's not going to run off with a priest or something, so she is now "safe" to admire! That's one thing I hope to teach my kids, don't idolize. Respect, yes, but know that everyone is human, and accept their faults when they happen. Because they WILL happen.

Couldn't have said it better BoB. Indeed, those who followed Jim Jones learned. I won't even let the weebles hero worship me. I tell them when they apologize for spilling something, or breaking something. "Nawny makes lots of mistakes, lots of times." I want them to know that, because it's true. And they love me anyway. :)

I get a great kick out of them when they parrot me. Last week, the daddy of two of them got into trouble with the boss for coming home late. He had some plumbing work to do for a friend from the old days. (When he was single) They ended up talking longer than he had expected and over a few beers, they forgot the time. My DD was openly pissed off when he called, after missing supper. When her 2 weebs 5 and 4 asked her why she was mad at daddy, she explained that he disappointed her. When he got home they were in the tub and the older one said, "Daddy you made a big mistake tonight!" ;)

My DD asked him if he was suicidal, since it was PMS week. He laughed at that remark. Mistake number 2~ ;)

Oh well, if not for those mistakes we would be perfect. How boring is that?

[Nawny]

That seems to be the portion of society that is left out the most and are paying most of the bills. The thing I can not figure out is why we continue to send the same "not so smart" people to Washington to make decisions.

IMO the pickins are slim and money talks.

[Nawny]

I've seen your work, you are. Much better than people who are world famous for it.

Thank you deac. You are very kind. :o

[Marian Paroo]

Please do!



Okay, for the USA, this one (found on Wikipedia):

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boy_in_the_Box_(Philadelphia)

because it is representative of the many, many such cases that don't make the news ever year.

Will have to search a little for an Israeli case, I know there are, but they go out of the news quickly.






Oh, of course.

A girl in her mid teens went missing one afternoon. It's been over a decade. Daughter of the optometrist own the block. If I can remember her name, I'll post a link. Serious girl, babysat for the electrician's (next storefront over) kid. Gone without a trace. Nothing.

[shadydaisy]

Marion - I couldn't get your link to work -
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Boy_in_the_Box_(Philadelphia) This makes my area newspaper every other year or so. As far as I know, nothing has ever really been resolved and doesn't seem likely to happen.

Philly and parts of South Jersey had a lot of abandoned kids prior to law changes. People just sort of gave them away - as strange as that may sound. Unwed mothers and families with too many children to feed often gave their children to a group call Catholic Charities. I had a great aunt to who worked for them. She was not comfortable with some of the dealings that went on.

Tried opening my link after posting and it won't work either. It did before. Anyway, if interested, go to wiki and find it.

[SaraSidle]

Marion - I couldn't get your link to work -
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Boy_in_the_Box_(Philadelphia) This makes my area newspaper every other year or so. As far as I know, nothing has ever really been resolved and doesn't seem likely to happen.

Philly and parts of South Jersey had a lot of abandoned kids prior to law changes. People just sort of gave them away - as strange as that may sound. Unwed mothers and families with too many children to feed often gave their children to a group call Catholic Charities. I had a great aunt to who worked for them. She was not comfortable with some of the dealings that went on.

Tried opening my link after posting and it won't work either. It did before. Anyway, if interested, go to wiki and find it.

I think Vidocq looked into that one also. Found nothing.l I wonder if they are still active.!?!?!?! I am going to go look.

[deacon]

Thank you deac. You are very kind. :o

And just think, I am honest too.:biggrin:

[BeastofBears]

That seems to be the portion of society that is left out the most and are paying most of the bills. The thing I can not figure out is why we continue to send the same "not so smart" people to Washington to make decisions.

gerrymandering.

Job 1 on being elected is making sure the districting is beneficial for those in office. Are the Demos or the Rebubs going to try to stop each other? Of course not, because they both benefit. They don't just have to be bad, they have to be awful to lose.

imo, moo.

[BeastofBears]

Okay, for the USA, this one (found on Wikipedia):

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boy_in_the_Box_(Philadelphia)

because it is representative of the many, many such cases that don't make the news ever year.

Will have to search a little for an Israeli case, I know there are, but they go out of the news quickly.






Oh, of course.

A girl in her mid teens went missing one afternoon. It's been over a decade. Daughter of the optometrist own the block. If I can remember her name, I'll post a link. Serious girl, babysat for the electrician's (next storefront over) kid. Gone without a trace. Nothing.

Aw, poor little guy! I hadn't heard of that one, though it sounds familiar. I must have seen one of the shows based on him. I wish they'd given him a "fake" name. It's hard to think of any child as "the boy in the box"...but I guess such things shouldn't be made easier.

It's amazing people can just disappear.

[beemer]

Hey Beem! You can come home now. :punch: We miss you!

:seeya:

I'm baaaaack :D
New avatar is the sun setting over the lake-my paradise!!! Taken from the back deck.

[deacon]

I'm baaaaack :D
New avatar is the sun setting over the lake-my paradise!!! Taken from the back deck.

Cool.:beer:

[Gatordog]

I have a random question for all:

If you could make a wish and solve one "cold case" that you know of, what would it be? And if its not famous, fill us in...

Ethan Patz. Six year old boy in NY walking to school by himself for the first time, disappeared. His mother watched him from the window turn the corner where the school was and he never made it about 30 years ago. I'd like to give his parents peace.

[beemer]

Thanks deacon. First thing i did was get out my peanuts and look for my fav chipmunk chipper. He never came :( I did have 4-5 others who became regulars tho. Little guy i was able to get to the point of hand feeding. Still not my chipper who would hop up in my lap and let me pet him. I did spend time playing referee tho when big guy chipmunk would come along and try to chase off the littler ones when i was feeding them. I did laugh my azz off tho when he was tearing across the deck full tilt chasing off little guy. He ran smack into the wooden plantar. Hit his head and the sound was quite loud but didn't seem to faze him.

[Gatordog]

What a sad event at work today. One of my boss' managers was walking into the building at 7 am through the front entrance. He heard a loud thud behind him and turned to see what it was. Another guy, 39 years old, just dropped dead. The manager saw someone else walking and screamed for him to get security. They had the defib machine and zapped him four times before getting his heart beating again. He had a heart attack. He had a history of high blood pressure but he is also Muslim. It's Ramadan right now and they don't eat or drink while the sun is up fpr about 30 days. Even when they do finally eat or drink, it's very light. He probably threw his potassium off. No word yet on his status. I'm glad I'm Italian, I rather die from eatting too much than not at all.

I pray he recovers. I'll let you know when I hear something.

[BeastofBears]

What a sad event at work today. One of my boss' managers was walking into the building at 7 am through the front entrance. He heard a loud thud behind him and turned to see what it was. Another guy, 39 years old, just dropped dead. The manager saw someone else walking and screamed for him to get security. They had the defib machine and zapped him four times before getting his heart beating again. He had a heart attack. He had a history of high blood pressure but he is also Muslim. It's Ramadan right now and they don't eat or drink while the sun is up fpr about 30 days. Even when they do finally eat or drink, it's very light. He probably threw his potassium off. No word yet on his status. I'm glad I'm Italian, I rather die from eatting too much than not at all.

I pray he recovers. I'll let you know when I hear something.

only 39?! I am SO GLAD they had a defibrillator! Those should be in every public space.

I know the fasting isn't required if someone has a health issue...I guess he didn't realize how serious his was! I sure hope he's okay.

[SaraSidle]

What a sad event at work today. One of my boss' managers was walking into the building at 7 am through the front entrance. He heard a loud thud behind him and turned to see what it was. Another guy, 39 years old, just dropped dead. The manager saw someone else walking and screamed for him to get security. They had the defib machine and zapped him four times before getting his heart beating again. He had a heart attack. He had a history of high blood pressure but he is also Muslim. It's Ramadan right now and they don't eat or drink while the sun is up fpr about 30 days. Even when they do finally eat or drink, it's very light. He probably threw his potassium off. No word yet on his status. I'm glad I'm Italian, I rather die from eatting too much than not at all.

I pray he recovers. I'll let you know when I hear something.

39 yrs old. Fasting. He is very lucky. I am not Italian just Irish but I just love to eat. I am sure he will be getting lots of nutrients. I wonder if this is common in hospitals near Muslims that practice Ramadan?

[BeastofBears]

39 yrs old. Fasting. He is very lucky. I am not Italian just Irish but I just love to eat. I am sure he will be getting lots of nutrients. I wonder if this is common in hospitals near Muslims that practice Ramadan?

Freaky. You really can find everything on the net

http://firstaid.about.com/od/injuriesathome/qt/07_Ramadan.htm
http://linkinghub.elsevier.com/retrieve/pii/S0167527399000820

[SaraSidle]

Freaky. You really can find everything on the net

http://firstaid.about.com/od/injuriesathome/qt/07_Ramadan.htm
http://linkinghub.elsevier.com/retrieve/pii/S0167527399000820

yes it is amazing. I do not remember ever having problems with it. sometimes you have to go in an about way to do it..........

[Nawny]

What a sad event at work today. One of my boss' managers was walking into the building at 7 am through the front entrance. He heard a loud thud behind him and turned to see what it was. Another guy, 39 years old, just dropped dead. The manager saw someone else walking and screamed for him to get security. They had the defib machine and zapped him four times before getting his heart beating again. He had a heart attack. He had a history of high blood pressure but he is also Muslim. It's Ramadan right now and they don't eat or drink while the sun is up fpr about 30 days. Even when they do finally eat or drink, it's very light. He probably threw his potassium off. No word yet on his status. I'm glad I'm Italian, I rather die from eatting too much than not at all.

I pray he recovers. I'll let you know when I hear something.

WOW! I'd rather eat too than go near doctors. Hey Jo I have to share this Colonoscopy thingy you sent me today. I'm still laughing. I think laughter is better than any pill! I have to post this ROTFLMAO! I've been laughing all day. I have never laughed so hard, I still got tears in my eyes!! Thanks for the comic relief! LOL!LOL!LOL!!!!

************************************************** *******

ABOUT THE WRITER Dave Barry is a Pulitzer Prize-winning humor columnist for the Miami Herald.

Colonoscopy Journal:

I called my friend Andy Sable, a gastroenterologist, to make an appointment for a colonoscopy.

A few days later, in his office, Andy showed me a color diagram of the colon, a lengthy organ that appears to go all over the place, at one point passing briefly through Minneapolis.

Then Andy explained the colonoscopy procedure to me in a thorough, reassuring and patient manner.I nodded thoughtfully, but I didn't really hear anything he said, because my brain was shrieking, 'HE'S GOING TO STICK A TUBE 17,000 FEET UP YOUR BEHIND!'

I left Andy's office with some written instructions, and a prescription for a product called 'MoviPrep,' which comes in a box large enough to hold a microwave oven. I will discuss MoviPrep in detail later; for now suffice it to say that we must never allow it to fall into the hands of America 's enemies.

I spent the next several days productively sitting around being nervous. Then, on the day before my colonoscopy, I began my preparation. In accordance with my instructions, I didn't eat any solid food that day; all I had was chicken broth, which is basically water, only with less flavor.

Then, in the evening, I took the MoviPrep. You mix two packets of powder together in a one-liter plastic jug, then you fill it with lukewarm water. (For those unfamiliar with the metric system, a liter is about 32 gallons). Then you have to drink the whole jug. This takes about an hour, because MoviPrep tastes - and here I am being kind - like a mixture ofgoat spit and urinal cleanser, with just a hint of lemon.

The instructions for MoviPrep, clearly written by somebody with a great sense of humor, state that after you drink it, 'a loose, watery bowel movement may result.'

This is kind of like saying that after you jump off your roof, you may experience contact with the ground. MoviPrep is a nuclear laxative. I don't want to be too graphic, here, but, have you ever seen a space-shuttle launch? This is pretty much the MoviPrep experience, with you as the shuttle. There are times when you wish the commode had a seat belt. You spend several hours pretty much confined to the bathroom, spurting violently. You eliminate everything. And then, when you figure you must be totally empty, you have to drink another liter of MoviPrep, at which point, as far as I can tell, your bowels travel into the future and start eliminating food that you have not even eaten yet.

After an action-packed evening, I finally got to sleep.The next morning my wife drove me to the clinic. I was very nervous. Not only was I worried about the procedure, but I had been experiencing occasional return bouts of MoviPrep spurtage. I was thinking, 'What if I spurt on Andy?' How do you apologize to a friend for something like that? Flowers would not be enough.

At the clinic I had to sign many forms acknowledging that I understood and totally agreed with whatever the heck the forms said. Then they led me to a room full of other colonoscopy people, where I went inside a little curtained space and took off my clothes and put on one of those hospital garments designed by sadist perverts, the kind that, when you put it on, makes you feel even more naked than when you are actually naked..Then a nurse named Eddie put a little needle in a vein in my left hand. Ordinarily I would have fainted, but Eddie was very good, and I was already lying down. Eddie also told me that some people put vodka in their MoviPrep. At first I was ticked off that I hadn't thought of this, but then I pondered what would happen if you got yourself too tipsy to make it to the bathroom, so you were staggering around in full Fire Hose Mode. You would have no choice but to burn your house.

When everything was ready, Eddie wheeled me into the procedure room, where Andy was waiting with a nurse and an anesthesiologist. I did not see the 17,000-foot tube, but I knew Andy had it hidden around there somewhere. I was seriously nervous at this point.

Andy had me roll over on my left side, and the anesthesiologist began hooking something up to the needle in my hand.

There was music playing in the room, and I realized that the song was 'Dancing Queen' by ABBA. I remarked to Andy that, of all the songs that could be playing during this particular procedure, 'Dancing Queen' had to be the least appropriate.'You want me to turn it up?' said Andy, from somewhere behind me.'Ha ha,' I said. And then it was time, the moment I had been dreading for more than a decade. If you are squeamish, prepare yourself, because I am going to tell you, in explicit detail, exactly what it was like. I have no idea. Really. I slept through it. One moment, ABBA was yelling 'Dancing Queen, feel the beat of the tambourine,' and the next moment, I was back in the other room, waking up in a very mellow mood.

Andy was looking down at me and asking me how I felt. I felt excellent. I felt even more excellent when Andy told me that It was all over, and that my colon had passed with flying colors. I have never been prouder of an internal organ.

On the subject of Colonoscopies... Colonoscopies are no joke, but these comments during the exam were quite humorous..... A physician claimed that the following are actual comments made by his patients (predominately male) while he was performing their colonoscopies:1. 'Take it easy, Doc. You're boldly going where no man has gone before!'
2. 'Find Amelia Earhart yet?'
3. 'Can you hear me NOW?'
4. 'Are we there yet? Are we there yet? Are we there yet?'
5. 'You know, in Arkansas , we're now legally married.'
6. 'Any sign of the trapped miners, Chief?'
7. 'You put your left hand in, you take your left hand out...'
8. 'Hey! Now I know how a Muppet feels!'
9. 'If your hand doesn't fit, you must quit!'
10. 'Hey Doc, let me know if you find my dignity.'
11. 'You used to be an executive at Enron, didn't you?'
12. 'God, now I know why I am not gay.'
And the best one of all: 13. 'Could you write a note for my wife saying that my head is not up there?'

[Nawny]

And just think, I am honest too.:biggrin:

Big hugs!:)

[Nawny]

I'm baaaaack :D
New avatar is the sun setting over the lake-my paradise!!! Taken from the back deck.

And I bet you couldn't wait to get back to us! Betcha! The lake is beautiful. Now get back to work! ;) Honestly, I'm glad you hated it. :beer: Missed ya!

I'm going to Vermont next month on the 3 day weekend. Tonight poppa mentioned that Vermont means green mountains. It was named by a french explorer. I asked him what the heck a Frenchman was doing in New England. he said, Dunno, they probably threw him out of Canada.. That struck me so funny I was doubled over laughing. :hat:

[BeastofBears]

yes it is amazing. I do not remember ever having problems with it. sometimes you have to go in an about way to do it..........

It's funny, I've gotten so spoiled I'm shocked when I can't find something these days. I remember I used to spend hours in libraries researching, just stuff. And hiding in the carrels and sneaking food (I bet you love that, Marian!)

But for real research in my field, libraries still cannot be beat. I just use the internet to work on a bibliography list for hunting the real thing...

[Nawny]

It's funny, I've gotten so spoiled I'm shocked when I can't find something these days. I remember I used to spend hours in libraries researching, just stuff. And hiding in the carrels and sneaking food (I bet you love that, Marian!)

But for real research in my field, libraries still cannot be beat. I just use the internet to work on a bibliography list for hunting the real thing...

It's sad to see so many libraries closing out this way. I think it was Philly, I heard a few days ago, was closing a main library. That is not good while our politicians are refusing to waste urine.

BTW, have you seen this BoB?

http://www.cnn.com/2009/TECH/science/09/17/tiny.t-rex.dinosaur.discovered/index.html

[SaraSidle]

It's sad to see so many libraries closing out this way. I think it was Philly, I heard a few days ago, was closing a main library. That is not good while our politicians are refusing to waste urine.

BTW, have you seen this BoB?

http://www.cnn.com/2009/TECH/science/09/17/tiny.t-rex.dinosaur.discovered/index.html

I wonder if they can be ridden like horses?

[Marian Paroo]

Aw, poor little guy! I hadn't heard of that one, though it sounds familiar. I must have seen one of the shows based on him. I wish they'd given him a "fake" name. It's hard to think of any child as "the boy in the box"...but I guess such things shouldn't be made easier.

It's amazing people can just disappear.

Sometimes they do. As in the case of the little girl who died in a fire in a circus tent, in CT(?) in 1950-something. Many, many years later they did identify her. Ironic thing is -- and a lesson to parents who don't believe their children -- at identification at the time her bro insisted that the body was that of his sister -- but the parents said it wasn't that of their daughter.

As for how easy it is for people/bodies to disappear, it really isn't that hard to get rid of a body. It's a good thing I'm not a bad person. Here it's very hard for living people to disappear if they want to stay in the system, because one needs their government ID (as in many European countries) to do anything.

[Marian Paroo]

It's Ramadan right now and they don't eat or drink while the sun is up fpr about 30 days. Even when they do finally eat or drink, it's very light. He probably threw his potassium off. No word yet on his status. I'm glad I'm Italian, I rather die from eatting too much than not at all.

I pray he recovers. I'll let you know when I hear something.

Well, at the Iftar (breakfast meal) it starts light. Which is a healthy way to break a fast, but later one eats regularly, though some people do gorge, esp. at the final meal before sunrise.

But it is difficult esp. when Ramadan falls in the summer. Longer day, hotter weather. And, as you notice, you work. It's not like a one day, albeit 26 hour fast that my coreligionists do on Yom Kippur -- no working, sitting in an airconditioned synagogue and praying.

Some of the caregivers in the place where my mother is are Moslems -- I really admire their stamina during the fast.

[BeastofBears]

Well, at the Iftar (breakfast meal) it starts light. Which is a healthy way to break a fast, but later one eats regularly, though some people do gorge, esp. at the final meal before sunrise.

But it is difficult esp. when Ramadan falls in the summer. Longer day, hotter weather. And, as you notice, you work. It's not like a one day, albeit 26 hour fast that my coreligionists do on Yom Kippur -- no working, sitting in an airconditioned synagogue and praying.

Some of the caregivers in the place where my mother is are Moslems -- I really admire their stamina during the fast.

Happy New Year, Marian!

[Marian Paroo]

Thanks.

I should have written break-fast or break fast and not breakfast, because it certainly isn't in the morning.

Chatted with one of the Moslems who work at the nursing home today -- poor fellow, he looked so worn. It's in the high 80s here, and keeping elderly men who can't do it themselves clean isn't easy work.

[Gatordog]

Well, at the Iftar (breakfast meal) it starts light. Which is a healthy way to break a fast, but later one eats regularly, though some people do gorge, esp. at the final meal before sunrise.

But it is difficult esp. when Ramadan falls in the summer. Longer day, hotter weather. And, as you notice, you work. It's not like a one day, albeit 26 hour fast that my coreligionists do on Yom Kippur -- no working, sitting in an airconditioned synagogue and praying.

Some of the caregivers in the place where my mother is are Moslems -- I really admire their stamina during the fast.

It's still in thee 90's here with high humidity.

[Gatordog]

Word on Ahmed is he was flown from the local hospital to a medical center. He is in an induced coma. They will try to wake him up in a few days and aren't sure what he actually suffered. Three of our guys saw him go down and ran out of the building and immediately started CPR. There is going to be a heroes lunch for all involved on Monday. My boss is very proud as they are all from within his departments.

[BeastofBears]

Word on Ahmed is he was flown from the local hospital to a medical center. He is in an induced coma. They will try to wake him up in a few days and aren't sure what he actually suffered. Three of our guys saw him go down and ran out of the building and immediately started CPR. There is going to be a heroes lunch for all involved on Monday. My boss is very proud as they are all from within his departments.

That's good!

We spend so much time here talking about scumbeings it is good to be reminded that many people run to help when they see a need. There is more good than bad in this world. :rose:

[SaraSidle]

That's good!

We spend so much time here talking about scumbeings it is good to be reminded that many people run to help when they see a need. There is more good than bad in this world. :rose:

I agree. We should put more good news and funny things on the good news thread. Even if it is someone we know..........IMO sara

OK Nawny here is my comforter Queen size on sale for 169.00.
I wish I could see the colors better. I am sure there are blues in it. sarahttp://zoom.jcpenney.com/is/image/0900631b8173ee70M.tif?wid=180&hei=180&op_usm=1.5,.8,0,0&resmode=sharp

It is called Seascape

[Nawny]

Word on Ahmed is he was flown from the local hospital to a medical center. He is in an induced coma. They will try to wake him up in a few days and aren't sure what he actually suffered. Three of our guys saw him go down and ran out of the building and immediately started CPR. There is going to be a heroes lunch for all involved on Monday. My boss is very proud as they are all from within his departments.

Whoa! An "induced coma?" That sounds a lot worse than potassium deficiency. That man is in bad shape.. I hope he recovers okay. :( Bravo to those who saved him!

[Nawny]

It's still in thee 90's here with high humidity.

66 degrees here Gator.. but summer willl hit us again in October, watch.

[Nawny]

I agree. We should put more good news and funny things on the good news thread. Even if it is someone we know..........IMO sara

OK Nawny here is my comforter Queen size on sale for 169.00.
I wish I could see the colors better. I am sure there are blues in it. sarahttp://zoom.jcpenney.com/is/image/0900631b8173ee70M.tif?wid=180&hei=180&op_usm=1.5,.8,0,0&resmode=sharp

It is called Seascape

That's beautiful sara. I like it! :-) JC Penny has some wonderful comforters. I live near the Warwick mall.. bad.

[BeastofBears]

66 degrees here Gator.. but summer willl hit us again in October, watch.

We're finally getting our Indian summer. 90s working their way to 100 over the next few days. Not a moment too soon, because word is there might be an El Nino developing, and that will mean a wet winter/spring.

[SaraSidle]

I heard we were getting a colder winter than last year due to global warming.

Nawny I would love that Indian Summer in October. so nice.

glad you like the comporter.........

[BeastofBears]

Whoa! An "induced coma?" That sounds a lot worse than potassium deficiency. That man is in bad shape.. I hope he recovers okay. :( Bravo to those who saved him!

Not a doctor as you well know, but it is done in cases where there is concern about brain damage. It keeps the brain from swelling and prevents the worst of it.

[BeastofBears]

I wonder how Jlette is doing...

Our buddy from her neck of the woods is going to launch his invasion of our house after his Grateful Dead concert tonight. The dog will enjoy sniffing him.

[Nawny]

We're finally getting our Indian summer. 90s working their way to 100 over the next few days. Not a moment too soon, because word is there might be an El Nino developing, and that will mean a wet winter/spring.

El Nino? :(

[Nawny]

Not a doctor as you well know, but it is done in cases where there is concern about brain damage. It keeps the brain from swelling and prevents the worst of it.

I see... Hmmm.

[Nawny]

I heard we were getting a colder winter than last year due to global warming.

Nawny I would love that Indian Summer in October. so nice.

glad you like the comforter......... I like the whole room sara!

I'm not doing long long cold cold winter this year. I'm escaping, I tell ya. :chicken:

[Nawny]

WHat's your take on the Yale case. That guy Clark looks like a choir boy. WTH? I haven't seen anything news worthy so far on him, except that he was seen on video holding his head in his hands. His head was wired badly it seems.

There has to be something underlying what they told so far. On the question of what their relationship was, the spokesperson for LE said, No comment. My minds goes to the fact that she was getting married that day and he had a problem with that (?):shrug: Why "No comment?" If there was nothing, he'd say so right? I hate when they say no comment to a direct question. No answer, is an answer.

[One2Snoop]

Trying to determine if this human or not....

http://i33.tinypic.com/25p0rnn.jpg

B/W
http://i36.tinypic.com/16c6eef.jpg

Here's the link to the story....

GBI (Georgia Bureau of Investigation) says they are dog bones.

http://www.douglasenterprise.net/articles/2009/09/17/top_stories/doc4ab26182e1c83337908405.txt

[BeastofBears]

Trying to determine if this human or not....

http://i33.tinypic.com/25p0rnn.jpg

B/W
http://i36.tinypic.com/16c6eef.jpg

Here's the link to the story....

GBI (Georgia Bureau of Investigation) says they are dog bones.

http://www.douglasenterprise.net/articles/2009/09/17/top_stories/doc4ab26182e1c83337908405.txt

They didn't offer the best of pictures, did they? So based on a picture with no scale and not totally clear...

Okay, imo...the radius is the wrong proportion, too thick, and doesn't seem to have the right "twist". The metacarpals, same thing...and look too long compared to the "finger" bones. Those two things jump out right away. The proportions just seem very off. So, I would go with not human. I don't have fauna expertise, so beyond that :shrug:

I can see why this generated excitement, though! I would screech to a halt on the road if I saw this!

eta: found a dog "arm" for comparison: http://i33.tinypic.com/2m4djiu.png

[One2Snoop]

They didn't offer the best of pictures, did they? So based on a picture with no scale and not totally clear...

Okay, imo...the radius is the wrong proportion, too thick, and doesn't seem to have the right "twist". The metacarpals, same thing...and look too long compared to the "finger" bones. Those two things jump out right away. The proportions just seem very off. So, I would go with not human. I don't have fauna expertise, so beyond that :shrug:

I can see why this generated excitement, though! I would screech to a halt on the road if I saw this!

Thanks Bob! The picture was taken by kids with their cell phones and by the time they reported it to the GBI it was gone. Thanks again for the info!

[BeastofBears]

Thanks Bob! The picture was taken by kids with their cell phones and by the time they reported it to the GBI it was gone. Thanks again for the info!

Yeah, no problem! Did you do the b+w version? because the greater contrast really helped!

[One2Snoop]

Yeah, no problem! Did you do the b+w version? because the greater contrast really helped!


No, actually blue mermaid did it. Whenever bones are found in Georgia we're always thinking/wondering if it's Tara Grinstead. I appreciate your help.

[BeastofBears]

No, actually blue mermaid did it. Whenever bones are found in Georgia we're always thinking/wondering if it's Tara Grinstead. I appreciate your help.

Ah, of course! I wish they would solve that one, too.

[beemer]

Word on Ahmed is he was flown from the local hospital to a medical center. He is in an induced coma. They will try to wake him up in a few days and aren't sure what he actually suffered. Three of our guys saw him go down and ran out of the building and immediately started CPR. There is going to be a heroes lunch for all involved on Monday. My boss is very proud as they are all from within his departments.

Good for them Gator-kudos. I am glad he is still with us but wow an induced coma? We had an incident also at work just prior to me leaving for vac. I was not there but a great co-worker was. A 29 year old male (co-worker) was suffering from chest pain and started with breathing difficulties. Did not want her to call the ambulance as he said he wanted to walk it off!!! She did anyways and he had a collapsed lung. They have no idea why it happened. I was at a work function tonight with my folks and got the chance to talk to him. I was relieved thats for sure to see he was ok. He told me he thought for sure he was having a heart attack.

[beemer]

I wonder how Jlette is doing...

Our buddy from her neck of the woods is going to launch his invasion of our house after his Grateful Dead concert tonight. The dog will enjoy sniffing him.

Does that mean the dog will be eating and laughing lots? :D:beer:

[BeastofBears]

Does that mean the dog will be eating and laughing lots? :D:beer:

And that will make him different tonight than any other night, how? :D

[Marian Paroo]

Word on Ahmed is he was flown from the local hospital to a medical center. He is in an induced coma. They will try to wake him up in a few days and aren't sure what he actually suffered. Three of our guys saw him go down and ran out of the building and immediately started CPR. There is going to be a heroes lunch for all involved on Monday. My boss is very proud as they are all from within his departments.

:( -- maybe I'll ask the guy at my mother's nursing home to pray for him

and kudoes to his fellow workers for doing their level best!

[beemer]

And that will make him different tonight than any other night, how? :D

Good stuff Bob you got one happy doggy:rose:

[Nawny]

And that will make him different tonight than any other night, how? :D

He's a Hoover alright aye BoB?! Poor True is back on the boiled rice diet. He can't even eat air without getting sick. :(

[BeastofBears]

He's a Hoover alright aye BoB?! Poor True is back on the boiled rice diet. He can't even eat air without getting sick. :(

Still? Does the vet have any theories?

I don't know if this helps, but Science Diet has both a chicken and rice and lamb and rice version. Sometimes the lamb is milder for some dogs.

I have Ollie concern. I went to the website of the folks we got him from to look at "family" pictures and there was an announcement that his daddy had died, no illness, just found dead in the barn at 6 years old. RIP Rockey.

[Nawny]

Still? Does the vet have any theories?

I don't know if this helps, but Science Diet has both a chicken and rice and lamb and rice version. Sometimes the lamb is milder for some dogs.

I have Ollie concern. I went to the website of the folks we got him from to look at "family" pictures and there was an announcement that his daddy had died, no illness, just found dead in the barn at 6 years old. RIP Rockey.

RIP Ollie.. that's concerning yep.

The vet has True eating boiled rice and ground beef. Last time it was Boiled rice and chicken. He recovered well from the first bout with this and has been weened to organic dog food. He's been going non stop hourly for 2 days.. starting at 3am. My DD is telling me she's been sleep deprived for 4 years. I told her that's impossible, she'd be dead. ;) She said she died somewhere along the line and she's not really here.

She started having children in her late 30's. Partied out, did the White Water Raft thing, chased Jimmy Buffet around, saw lots of the world. I guess she thought motherhood was the thing to do at that point.. IMO 30's is elderly. Was at her college graduation in my late 30's. LOL! It's so strange to me seeing a 41 year old with two little children. Now she's boiling rice and ground beef for her dog too with no sleep. :D

But like my mother said, "It's a wheel that turns. One mother can take care of many people, but many people cannot take care of one mother."
And I learned why my mother laughed at me.

[BeastofBears]

RIP Ollie.. that's concerning yep.

The vet has True eating boiled rice and ground beef. Last time it was Boiled rice and chicken. He recovered well from the first bout with this and has been weened to organic dog food. He's been going non stop hourly for 2 days.. starting at 3am. My DD is telling me she's been sleep deprived for 4 years. I told her that's impossible, she'd be dead. ;) She said she died somewhere along the line and she's not really here.

She started having children in her late 30's. Partied out, did the White Water Raft thing, chased Jimmy Buffet around, saw lots of the world. I guess she thought motherhood was the thing to do at that point.. IMO 30's is elderly. Was at her college graduation in my late 30's. LOL! It's so strange to me seeing a 41 year old with two little children. Now she's boiling rice and ground beef for her dog too with no sleep. :D

But like my mother said, "It's a wheel that turns. One mother can take care of many people, but many people cannot take care of one mother."
And I learned why my mother laughed at me.

Yeah, I know the feeling, even when it's me. I was required to go to the "1 year old" class at Kaiser this week. It was just me and the 16 year-old mom. A bigger waste of my time I have rarely encountered. Not only am I too old for that bs, I'm not even a first time mom. I think I know how to switch my daughter from a bottle to a sippy cup, for heaven's sake. what a load.

I feel for her with the doggy runs. Sleep deprivation is a foul thing. I sure hope they come up with something to solve it soon.

[Nawny]

Good article about dogs.


http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1921614,00.html

[Nawny]

Yeah, I know the feeling, even when it's me. I was required to go to the "1 year old" class at Kaiser this week. It was just me and the 16 year-old mom. A bigger waste of my time I have rarely encountered. Not only am I too old for that bs, I'm not even a first time mom. I think I know how to switch my daughter from a bottle to a sippy cup, for heaven's sake. what a load.

I feel for her with the doggy runs. Sleep deprivation is a foul thing. I sure hope they come up with something to solve it soon.

ROTFL!!! A 16 year old mom these days can barely get out of her own way. They need classes to learn how to wipe their azz. I pray the newest generation is being taught more than that. I have hope but I'm worried about the challenges today's mothers face.

At first I was concerned when both daughters and my son enrolled the weebles in gymnastics, soccer, Tee Ball, Dance, Jump Rope competition, Singing, piano. I thought it was crazy, really. Too much, I said! I can't even keep up with going to the games, recitals, gatherings etc.. It's nuts, I thought. I asked what the point of getting them involved with these kinds of curricular was? My youngest said, "Ma, the alternative is allowing them to play video games at home and some kids are using blackberries at age 8." I said, WTH is a blackberry..? I keep calling them strawberries..

I took the 3 oldest weebs to gymnastics last night and watched them endure a grueling first hour.. I was impressed! The 6 year old twinnies blew me away with their agility and ability to follow instructions. That put my heart to peace and fed my hope with happiness. (I was calling them the Flying Welenda's since they were 2 and man was I right. WOW!)

I'm still working on the jump rope competitions that force my son and his wife to get on planes. The international meet was in Texas this year.. Disney last year! It's nuts! IMO its big business. And still it was incredible to watch! Some of those Asian kids jump rope so fast you can't see their feet move. I don't totally understand it..

But, what ever it takes to keep the kids safe and busy.. it's all good. These new babies are more than brilliant. They could take care of that sippy cup issue at age 3.

God love them all! :)

[Gatordog]

Not a doctor as you well know, but it is done in cases where there is concern about brain damage. It keeps the brain from swelling and prevents the worst of it.

He slammed his head hard on the concrete when he collapsed.

[Gatordog]

Good for them Gator-kudos. I am glad he is still with us but wow an induced coma? We had an incident also at work just prior to me leaving for vac. I was not there but a great co-worker was. A 29 year old male (co-worker) was suffering from chest pain and started with breathing difficulties. Did not want her to call the ambulance as he said he wanted to walk it off!!! She did anyways and he had a collapsed lung. They have no idea why it happened. I was at a work function tonight with my folks and got the chance to talk to him. I was relieved thats for sure to see he was ok. He told me he thought for sure he was having a heart attack.

What the heck is wrong with people - walk it off. If you have pain in your chest it's not like a twisted ankle. :no:

[Gatordog]

:( -- maybe I'll ask the guy at my mother's nursing home to pray for him

and kudoes to his fellow workers for doing their level best!

That is a very kind thought.

[Gatordog]

Just waiting for the 6 pm news. A lake/pond in Putnum has been lowered to search for Haleigh Cummings or evidence. Where's George and TheAssonthething? Why isn't he out there searching the lake?

[Nawny]

http://www.libraryjournal.com/article/CA6697623.html

Library saved! Yay!

[Nawny]

What the heck is wrong with people - walk it off. If you have pain in your chest it's not like a twisted ankle. :no:

I'm thinking when we are not in heart attack territory, like when we're in our 30's or 40's. we don't imagine we can have a heart attack. I'm seeing and hearing more and more, younger people having heart attacks. I have a nephew who had three already and He's young. But his steady diet of Burger King, coke and Taco Bell since high school, isn't the reason... noooooo...

I was in Daves Market today seeing more and more processed foods. Now they have Teriyaki soup in microwavable little plastic bowls. Nevah! Career women have no desire to cook. So many precooked poisons out there.

[Nawny]

Just waiting for the 6 pm news. A lake/pond in Putnum has been lowered to search for Haleigh Cummings or evidence. Where's George and TheAssonthething? Why isn't he out there searching the lake?

Haaaaaaaaaaa!!!!! YA got me! How you can make me laugh over something so tragic, I can't understand it.. ROTFLMAO!!

[Nawny]

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi. SHUT UP. Please just shut up. Really, shut up. We're begging you, shut up.:cuss:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/nancy-snow/curb-your-enthusiasm_b_292140.html

[BeastofBears]

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi. SHUT UP. Please just shut up. Really, shut up. We're begging you, shut up.:cuss:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/nancy-snow/curb-your-enthusiasm_b_292140.html

Thanks, Nawny. She's another one of mine. :flamemad:

And I find the invoking of the murders of Moscone and Milk to be wholly and totally gratuitous. It was not a "rhetoric" issue.

[Nawny]

Thanks, Nawny. She's another one of mine. :flamemad:

And I find the invoking of the murders of Moscone and Milk to be wholly and totally gratuitous. It was not a "rhetoric" issue.

I'm not pickin on ya BoB! Her face was all over our illustrious Providence Urinal. Often is. So I guess she's everybody's.

[BeastofBears]

I'm not pickin on ya BoB! Her face was all over our illustrious Providence Urinal. Often is. So I guess she's everybody's.

We are all so lucky.

[Amy]

Just waiting for the 6 pm news. A lake/pond in Putnum has been lowered to search for Haleigh Cummings or evidence. Where's George and TheAssonthething? Why isn't he out there searching the lake?

I don't know which board I read it, but someone reminded us that Ron Cummings told George Anthony to take a hike some time ago. Guess George took him @ his word on that? @ least it gives him an excuse to not take TheAssonthething out. :D

[lighthousedazy]

I don't know which board I read it, but someone reminded us that Ron Cummings told George Anthony to take a hike some time ago. Guess George took him @ his word on that? @ least it gives him an excuse to not take TheAssonthething out. :DProbably would take less than one finger to count how many searches the A on the thing has been used to look for missing kids. :( But we already know that anyway.

[SaraSidle]

Probably would take less than one finger to count how many searches the A on the thing has been used to look for missing kids. :(

oh yeah lhd. I remember RC telling George that too.

[Nawny]

oh yeah lhd. I remember RC telling George that too.

That's a good slap in the face to Grinchy who wouldn't spit on the best part of people who live in trailors huh?

Nice try Ants! But we all know you didn't learn anything about humanitarianism in spite of your loss.. :punch:

[beemer]

Dont forget HOUSE tomorrow night. It's a 2 hr. season opener 8 p.m. on Fox. Thats 8 Eastern.

[beemer]

I'm thinking when we are not in heart attack territory, like when we're in our 30's or 40's. we don't imagine we can have a heart attack. I'm seeing and hearing more and more, younger people having heart attacks. I have a nephew who had three already and He's young. But his steady diet of Burger King, coke and Taco Bell since high school, isn't the reason... noooooo...

I was in Daves Market today seeing more and more processed foods. Now they have Teriyaki soup in microwavable little plastic bowls. Nevah! Career women have no desire to cook. So many precooked poisons out there.

I hear ya-we live in a hot spot for heart and cancer. Fellow co-worker is fine but his lung had collapsed. They have no idea why it happened :shrug:

[BeastofBears]

Dont forget HOUSE tomorrow night. It's a 2 hr. season opener 8 p.m. on Fox. Thats 8 Eastern.

Thanks, Beemer! The family fracas for the remote will be ON! Oh, yeah, they want some of this? I got your scrap right here!!!!! Come and get you some!

Monday is known as "Star Trek Night" around here. Time for that to change.

[One2Snoop]

Dont forget HOUSE tomorrow night. It's a 2 hr. season opener 8 p.m. on Fox. Thats 8 Eastern.

:beer: Thanks for the reminder!!!

[deacon]

I am back in NC. Yuck. Nothing wrong with NC but my home is in SC, thank you. We may be getting 5 or so more buildings to do up here. We will see.

[deacon]

http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/09/19/washington.escaped.killer/index.html

Another boo boo by the phychological community. No way should this person have been on a "field trip"

[beemer]

http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/09/19/washington.escaped.killer/index.html

Another boo boo by the phychological community. No way should this person have been on a "field trip"

Oh my gawd :eek: I sure hope he is found before the medications wear off. Some heads better roll over this one. What the hay were they thinking :cuss:

[deacon]

Oh my gawd :eek: I sure hope he is found before the medications wear off. Some heads better roll over this one. What the hay were they thinking :cuss:

Obviously there were not thinking, but he was. Looks like he planned his escape. He took most of his stuff with him in a back pack. Duhhhhh.

[BeastofBears]

Obviously there were not thinking, but he was. Looks like he planned his escape. He took most of his stuff with him in a back pack. Duhhhhh.

Gee, if they get their stuff together, I'll never achieve my dream of riding the Tilt-a-Wheel with a crazed psychokiller.

I think this situation is pretty telling on the mindset of the people who make the decisions. If people think criminals can be "rehabilitated" because they are all that way due to childhood abuse, or what have you, how much of a step is it to think that the violently insane will improve if mainstreamed and treated like normal people? Hence, enjoy the county fair, boys!

imo, moo.

[BeastofBears]

Oh my gawd :eek: I sure hope he is found before the medications wear off. Some heads better roll over this one. What the hay were they thinking :cuss:

They might. Apparently that's kind of what he did.

[beemer]

Thanks, Beemer! The family fracas for the remote will be ON! Oh, yeah, they want some of this? I got your scrap right here!!!!! Come and get you some!

Monday is known as "Star Trek Night" around here. Time for that to change.

Oh gawd Bob i feel for ya-trekkies oh no :biggrin: Git in front of that tube early and tape that sucker right to ya ;) I gotta work till 10:30!!! It's gonna kill me. DH is taping it so i can watch when i get home :beer:

[beemer]

:beer: Thanks for the reminder!!!

Your welcome Enjoy :beer:

[beemer]

They might. Apparently that's kind of what he did.

I know :chicken:

[beemer]

Gee, if they get their stuff together, I'll never achieve my dream of riding the Tilt-a-Wheel with a crazed psychokiller.

I think this situation is pretty telling on the mindset of the people who make the decisions. If people think criminals can be "rehabilitated" because they are all that way due to childhood abuse, or what have you, how much of a step is it to think that the violently insane will improve if mainstreamed and treated like normal people? Hence, enjoy the county fair, boys!

imo, moo.
Oh gawd i hope the school of thought isn't Inclusion :eek: Yep i sure would wanna be next to em in the haunted house :eek::eek::eek:

[Nawny]

They might. Apparently that's kind of what he did.

They caught the bum. He about gave himself up. Musta been hungry and wondered how he was going to get 3 hots and a cot. :read: CNN.com

[BeastofBears]

Oh gawd i hope the school of thought isn't Inclusion :eek: Yep i sure would wanna be next to em in the haunted house :eek::eek::eek:

Oh yeah. That would be special. Of course...if he's still loose on Halloween...it's witches he doesn't like? Choose your costume carefully!

[deacon]

They caught the bum. He about gave himself up. Musta been hungry and wondered how he was going to get 3 hots and a cot. :read: CNN.com

Good. Now, no more "field trips" for him.:flamemad:

[BeastofBears]

They caught the bum. He about gave himself up. Musta been hungry and wondered how he was going to get 3 hots and a cot. :read: CNN.com

Thank goodness! This was a creepy one!

[SaraSidle]

QUOTE=beemer;9221160]Dont forget HOUSE tomorrow night. It's a 2 hr. season opener 8 p.m. on Fox. Thats 8 Eastern.[/QUOTE]

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d60/xxXblackcherrysoda/gif/funny.gif

[deacon]

QUOTE=beemer;9221160]Dont forget HOUSE tomorrow night. It's a 2 hr. season opener 8 p.m. on Fox. Thats 8 Eastern.

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d60/xxXblackcherrysoda/gif/funny.gif[/QUOTE]

That looks sort of like georgie boy trying to operate the assonthething.:rolleyes:

[BeastofBears]

QUOTE=beemer;9221160]Dont forget HOUSE tomorrow night. It's a 2 hr. season opener 8 p.m. on Fox. Thats 8 Eastern.

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d60/xxXblackcherrysoda/gif/funny.gif[/QUOTE]

Maybe they'll take House to the county fair.

[SaraSidle]

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d60/xxXblackcherrysoda/gif/funny.gif

Maybe they'll take House to the county fair.[/QUOTE]

Well it sounds like he will be locked up in a mental ward trying to get rid of his addiction. Hijinks kind of like "the Cuckoo's Nest" so who knows. sara

[beemer]

House does plan an escape-I hope Wilson is involved as it will be hysterical. Thanks for the reminder sara and the pic


At least they finally caught the guy-whew

http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/09/20/washington.escaped.killer/index.html

[shadydaisy]

House does plan an escape-I hope Wilson is involved as it will be hysterical. Thanks for the reminder sara and the pic


At least they finally caught the guy-whew

http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/09/20/washington.escaped.killer/index.html

I do like Wilson, a lot! I guess I'll tivo and watch at a later time, without all the commercials.

[beemer]

I do like Wilson, a lot! I guess I'll tivo and watch at a later time, without all the commercials.

I hear ya-they really developed his character and as i have said before some of the best lines/scenes are House and Wilson. Thats my only luxury too with missing it due to work. No commercials. Apparently it is running 2 hours and 1 minute. Enjoy and let me know what ya think. I think alot of it will be funny but treated with dignity. The show is a great contributor to Mental Illness charity wise.

[shadydaisy]

I hear ya-they really developed his character and as i have said before some of the best lines/scenes are House and Wilson. Thats my only luxury too with missing it due to work. No commercials. Apparently it is running 2 hours and 1 minute. Enjoy and let me know what ya think. I think alot of it will be funny but treated with dignity. The show is a great contributor to Mental Illness charity wise.

I really hate when these shows go over the allotted time. I can't tell you how many times I have missed the last 2 minutes of a show because of this. I rarely watch anything live. Now I have to remember to tivo the next show, so I can have the end of House.

[beemer]

I really hate when these shows go over the allotted time. I can't tell you how many times I have missed the last 2 minutes of a show because of this. I rarely watch anything live. Now I have to remember to tivo the next show, so I can have the end of House.

I hear ya-thats why i put it out there running one minute over.

[BeastofBears]

I hear ya-thats why i put it out there running one minute over.

There's one channel (it might be USA network?, but its not one I watch often so I'm not sure) that now starts all its shows at 5 after the hour. I guess their theory is, you are less likely to switch to another channel if the other shows are already in progress. Stupid psychological tricks!

[beemer]

There's one channel (it might be USA network?, but its not one I watch often so I'm not sure) that now starts all its shows at 5 after the hour. I guess their theory is, you are less likely to switch to another channel if the other shows are already in progress. Stupid psychological tricks!

Yeah we are onto em ;)

[shadydaisy]

I get the psychology of it, but in this day and age so many of us just tivo and watch stuff when we can (usually when I'm ironing). If I have another show set to tivo right after it just changes channels on its own. Well, even if I don't the tivo stops when the show was supposed to end.

I guess that's enough of my rant.....

[JLette]

ok yall i have been gone this whole time and guess what. i had the baby on 9-15 at 4:46pm and he weighed in at 7lbs 3 oz at 20 1/2 inches long after about a 7 hour labor, here is a pic for all your baby enjoyment :biggrin: couldn't figure out how to put the pic on here so check out my new avatar!

[beemer]

ok yall i have been gone this whole time and guess what. i had the baby on 9-15 at 4:46pm and he weighed in at 7lbs 3 oz at 20 1/2 inches long after about a 7 hour labor, here is a pic for all your baby enjoyment :biggrin: couldn't figure out how to put the pic on here so check out my new avatar!

Congrats to all J :beer::biggrin::rose: He is a cutey!!!!! I lost the weight pool guess :( Everybody doing well? :rose::rose::rose::rose:

[shadydaisy]

ok yall i have been gone this whole time and guess what. i had the baby on 9-15 at 4:46pm and he weighed in at 7lbs 3 oz at 20 1/2 inches long after about a 7 hour labor, here is a pic for all your baby enjoyment :biggrin: couldn't figure out how to put the pic on here so check out my new avatar!

Yeah!! Adorable baby! I was exactly a pound off.... oh well - Congrats to all. Get some sleep.

[lighthousedazy]

Congratulations JLette and family. He is adorable. :)

[samanthajane13]

Congratulations, JLette!!!

What a BEAUTIFUL little guy!! What's his name??

Get your butt to the Lounge!!!

[Gatordog]

Best wishes on the new baby. He is just beautiful. I know your first son is going to be a great big brother. Daddy must be busting his buttons over his two handsome boys.

Gator

[applesandorange]

Congrats Jlette to you and the family! He is just too cute! I'm so glad you and baby seem to be doing wonderful.

[One2Snoop]

Glad to hear baby and mom are doing well! Congratulations Jlette!

[deacon]

ok yall i have been gone this whole time and guess what. i had the baby on 9-15 at 4:46pm and he weighed in at 7lbs 3 oz at 20 1/2 inches long after about a 7 hour labor, here is a pic for all your baby enjoyment :biggrin: couldn't figure out how to put the pic on here so check out my new avatar!

Way cool. Nice picture too. Congratulations. Glad everyone is doing well.:rose:

[SaraSidle]

ok yall i have been gone this whole time and guess what. i had the baby on 9-15 at 4:46pm and he weighed in at 7lbs 3 oz at 20 1/2 inches long after about a 7 hour labor, here is a pic for all your baby enjoyment :biggrin: couldn't figure out how to put the pic on here so check out my new avatar!

what a little sweetie. congratulations JLette!!!!!
http://i322.photobucket.com/albums/nn410/fmly07/new%20baby/MJZ311.gif

[BeastofBears]

ok yall i have been gone this whole time and guess what. i had the baby on 9-15 at 4:46pm and he weighed in at 7lbs 3 oz at 20 1/2 inches long after about a 7 hour labor, here is a pic for all your baby enjoyment :biggrin: couldn't figure out how to put the pic on here so check out my new avatar!

Oh, Jlette, he's adorable!!!! Congratulations!!!!

[Nawny]

ok yall i have been gone this whole time and guess what. i had the baby on 9-15 at 4:46pm and he weighed in at 7lbs 3 oz at 20 1/2 inches long after about a 7 hour labor, here is a pic for all your baby enjoyment :biggrin: couldn't figure out how to put the pic on here so check out my new avatar!

OMG! He's beautiful J.. just beautiful. I'm gonna cry! OMG! He's so precious! Look at his little arms! I love new babies, they remind me of little Easter hams when they sleep on their tummies. He's gorgeous! Thank you for sharing the little angel doll! May he bring all of you all the joy a heart can hold!

GOOD JOB MOMMA!!

OMG! I can't take it! I'm smiling so big!

[Amy]

Congratulations!!! Too cute for words!!!

[BeastofBears]

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d60/xxXblackcherrysoda/gif/funny.gif

Maybe they'll take House to the county fair.[/QUOTE]

^
Okay, am I psychic or what????? :tongue:

[SaraSidle]

Maybe they'll take House to the county fair.

^
Okay, am I psychic or what????? :tongue:[/QUOTE]

I have said it before and I will say it again..........You are so baddd


He does seem to be a good rap artist!!!!1

[beemer]

Way ta go Bob :beer: You called it. I thought for sure it would be a bustin out caper with Wilson. Give it a few episodes and the Ole House will be back. Remember House's motto-House doesn't do happy. I want HOUSE back ;)

[Nawny]

I love this one!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dhkm6sgPdtk

[Nawny]

I watched House last night for the first time. Wow! I laughed and I cried. Great story.. Can't wait till next Monday now. Thanks Beem!
:)

[JLette]

you guys are so sweet! his name is Isaac Evan and he is just PERFECT but of course all mommies say that lol. Daddy has been patting me on the back for a great job all week, my labor went really fast this time and ended up being all natural and all i have been hearing ever since is what a fantastic job i did :biggrin: he was a great coach tho.

big brother is ecstatic! all he wants to do is help with everything there is to do for baby brother. he calls him HIS baby lol he is going back to day care today, he took the week off to bond, but he is super excited to go back and tell all his friends about his new baby. i have so much reading to catch up on here lol, luckily Isaac is mostly a good baby, as long as he sun is up hahahaha. thanks for the well wishes and congrats everyone, and i am working on figuring out how to put a pic in a post so maybe i can show off a little more hahahaha
:beer:

[BeastofBears]

Way ta go Bob :beer: You called it. I thought for sure it would be a bustin out caper with Wilson. Give it a few episodes and the Ole House will be back. Remember House's motto-House doesn't do happy. I want HOUSE back ;)

Yeah, I don't watch House to see him happy and friendly. I watch because he does and says what I want to but can't. I have totally got to find a partner in crime for pranking people at boring parties. Oh, that was sweet!

[BeastofBears]

you guys are so sweet! his name is Isaac Evan and he is just PERFECT but of course all mommies say that lol. Daddy has been patting me on the back for a great job all week, my labor went really fast this time and ended up being all natural and all i have been hearing ever since is what a fantastic job i did :biggrin: he was a great coach tho.

big brother is ecstatic! all he wants to do is help with everything there is to do for baby brother. he calls him HIS baby lol he is going back to day care today, he took the week off to bond, but he is super excited to go back and tell all his friends about his new baby. i have so much reading to catch up on here lol, luckily Isaac is mostly a good baby, as long as he sun is up hahahaha. thanks for the well wishes and congrats everyone, and i am working on figuring out how to put a pic in a post so maybe i can show off a little more hahahaha
:beer:


HI Jlette. I am so glad everything is going so well! Big brothers are so cute.

If you go to tinypic.com, they have the instructions on how to upload pictures from your computer to their site, and then you just copy and paste the code that will appear when it is done uploading. Did that make sense? I haven't had coffee yet. How come there's no snoozing smiley?

[beemer]

Yeah, I don't watch House to see him happy and friendly. I watch because he does and says what I want to but can't. I have totally got to find a partner in crime for pranking people at boring parties. Oh, that was sweet!

I know Bob i want my ole House back too. I am sure it will only be a few episodes. That's just who he is. I'm sure Wilson will enjoy it for awhile tho. I want him back in the hospital spewing his Houseism's:beer: Now that would be a hoot Bob-wish i lived closer;)

[beemer]

I watched House last night for the first time. Wow! I laughed and I cried. Great story.. Can't wait till next Monday now. Thanks Beem!
:)

Glad ya tuned in and enjoyed Nawny. Stay tuned as i think in a few episodes you will see the real House. Then you will be doing this:eek: and this:D

[BeastofBears]

If you followed the Anna Nichole fiasco, you will find this interesting: http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-anna-nicole-smith22-2009sep22,0,1570635.story

It's about the trial of Stern, Eroshevich, and Kapoor. Apparently, pharmacists in LA are smart arses. ;)

[Nawny]

Glad ya tuned in and enjoyed Nawny. Stay tuned as i think in a few episodes you will see the real House. Then you will be doing this:eek: and this:D

What? I would have kissed him too. She really eff'd him up there didn't she? I was so mad at her for moving n breakin his sweet heart. LOL! I read a blurb about that show and it was, at one time, the most watched series in the country.
I live in a hole. Never knew about it. :o

[Nawny]

If you followed the Anna Nichole fiasco, you will find this interesting: http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-anna-nicole-smith22-2009sep22,0,1570635.story

It's about the trial of Stern, Eroshevich, and Kapoor. Apparently, pharmacists in LA are smart arses. ;)

Wow! All bad stuff there. The price of fame, aye? I wonder why people who have managed to get to the top, some after struggling so hard to become famous, end up needing to mind alter. Why? I don't understand it. Makes me wonder even more, if becoming immortal (sort of) is painfully disappointing. I think those who still have their not so famous lives are better off. I appreciate my freedoms to come and go as I please. I guess they don't have those rights. Must give um up for fame. Fame kills if it isn't handled well, ie MJ and so many others. Sad.

[beemer]

What? I would have kissed him too. She really eff'd him up there didn't she? I was so mad at her for moving n breakin his sweet heart. LOL! I read a blurb about that show and it was, at one time, the most watched series in the country.
I live in a hole. Never knew about it. :o

That was huge for House-usually he just engages prostitutes. I thought last night we would finally get to hear him play piano-usually just a bit of tinkering. Again just a tease. Very accomplished pianist and musician. Eton and Cambridge educated and not a hint of that British accent. His father was a Dr. so i guess he kinda sorta followed in his footsteps.

[BeastofBears]

That was huge for House-usually he just engages prostitutes. I thought last night we would finally get to hear him play piano-usually just a bit of tinkering. Again just a tease. Very accomplished pianist and musician. Eton and Cambridge educated and not a hint of that British accent. His father was a Dr. so i guess he kinda sorta followed in his footsteps.

Did anyone ever see Run, Lola, Run? The German chick from House was in that. Great movie.

[beemer]

Did anyone ever see Run, Lola, Run? The German chick from House was in that. Great movie.

Cant say that I have Bob but her face did look familiar :shrug:

[deacon]

Wow! All bad stuff there. The price of fame, aye? I wonder why people who have managed to get to the top, some after struggling so hard to become famous, end up needing to mind alter. Why? I don't understand it. Makes me wonder even more, if becoming immortal (sort of) is painfully disappointing. I think those who still have their not so famous lives are better off. I appreciate my freedoms to come and go as I please. I guess they don't have those rights. Must give um up for fame. Fame kills if it isn't handled well, ie MJ and so many others. Sad.

In this case, I don't think the struggle was that great. A picture here, a Playboy spread there and there she was. Her, and others, whole life style leads to this sort of nonsense. It is pathetic.

[BeastofBears]

Cant say that I have Bob but her face did look familiar :shrug:

I might be wrong, but I think she might have also been in the Bourne Identity movies...

[BeastofBears]

In this case, I don't think the struggle was that great. A picture here, a Playboy spread there and there she was. Her, and others, whole life style leads to this sort of nonsense. It is pathetic.

Oh, the pain, the pain. I need some methadone...

I'm kind of past feeling sorry for their struggle. Try living my life sometime, famousies! No good comes of the path, they chose the path, voila! I did feel sorry for her when her son died right after her baby was born. All the result of the lifestyle...but still.

[Nawny]

Oh, the pain, the pain. I need some methadone...

I'm kind of past feeling sorry for their struggle. Try living my life sometime, famousies! No good comes of the path, they chose the path, voila! I did feel sorry for her when her son died right after her baby was born. All the result of the lifestyle...but still.

Yep I did too .. she had to have zero coping skills and I guess she found the only way out. her death was sort of logical. She couldn't have escaped that life as it was, and the new baby would have suffered if she didn't. Somewhere under all that mess was a heart, I think. She reminded me of Norma Jean. Same mess. Niether one of them had much worldly experience after puberty. Same kind of men in her life and same -candle in the wind- of a lifestyle. But MM had no kids. :( I'm not 100% sure MM killed her self. But, it's still for sure that her choices had something to do with her death.

[BeastofBears]

Yep I did too .. she had to have zero coping skills and I guess she found the only way out. her death was sort of logical. She couldn't have escaped that life as it was, and the new baby would have suffered if she didn't. Somewhere under all that mess was a heart, I think. She reminded me of Norma Jean. Same mess. Niether one of them had much worldly experience after puberty. Same kind of men in her life and same -candle in the wind- of a lifestyle. But MM had no kids. :( I'm not 100% sure MM killed her self. But, it's still for sure that her choices had something to do with her death.

It's too bad she didn't keep working at the Burger Heaven, find a nice oil worker, set up house in a doublewide, have 4 or 5 kids. How much is money or fame worth when you have no joy?

ita about MM. I'm not sure that was either suicide or an accident.

[deacon]

It's too bad she didn't keep working at the Burger Heaven, find a nice oil worker, set up house in a doublewide, have 4 or 5 kids. How much is money or fame worth when you have no joy?

ita about MM. I'm not sure that was either suicide or an accident.

Ding, ding, ding the lady wins the big teddy bear!!!!

They think it is all about the money. They think that money and fame will make them happy. Nothing could be further from the truth. Donald Trump was once asked how much money would be enough. He said "there is never enough. I always want one more dollar."

It ain't all about money. Money does not bring children into the world and love them with all of its heart. Money does not make your wife/husband faithful. Money does not protect you from people who would hurt you. In fact, money brings people into your life that WANT to hurt you to get the money.

[Nawny]

]It's too bad she didn't keep working at the Burger Heaven, find a nice oil worker, set up house in a doublewide, have 4 or 5 kids. How much is money or fame worth when you have no joy? [/B]ita about MM. I'm not sure that was either suicide or an accident.

Yep, I agree BoB! She was a wasted life. Greed can kill, that's a reality. I always refer to the guy who started the U-Haul empire. IIRC, He was a poor slug who rented his pull wagon to people who were moving, and he had a nice family. Before too long he was a millionaire and one of his own sons murdered him because he disowned him. Effing MONEY! I will miss Dominic Dunn. :( He knew the score on that stuff.

I'm always on the fence with MM. She was involved with the Kennedy Brothers... I don't know how true it is, but one special on her case more than intimated that they were involved with her death. So was Peter Lawford. It was reported that Bobby was the last person she spoke too and she supposedly threatened to reveal her diary if he didn't get John to call her back that night. Someone mentioned they were at her house the night she died, probably looking for that diary to destroy it.

Who knows what lurks.. :shrug: She's in peace now. :rose:

[Nawny]

Ding, ding, ding the lady wins the big teddy bear!!!!

They think it is all about the money. They think that money and fame will make them happy. Nothing could be further from the truth. Donald Trump was once asked how much money would be enough. He said "there is never enough. I always want one more dollar."

It ain't all about money. Money does not bring children into the world and love them with all of its heart. Money does not make your wife/husband faithful. Money does not protect you from people who would hurt you. In fact, money brings people into your life that WANT to hurt you to get the money.

:) All true. Now Deac, you pick anything YOU want from the top shelf!

[DrewBerry]

Hi Everyone,
Just stopped by to say hello. I've been gone a few weeks and haven't even tried to catch up with all the news. Brother in law passed away last week and I've been staying with my sister and caring for her. It's been the worst year for our family. Dad's suicide in March and now my sister's husband. It can only get better from now on, right?
I have really missed you guys and our fun conversations.
I'll be back later once I catch my breath.
DrewB

[SaraSidle]

I am so sorry about your BIL Drew. I know he was probably ready as anyone can be and is at peace now. I know your sister is probably not doing so well. Prayers for you both and one day at a time. You are a good sister...........sara:rose::rose:

[Nawny]

Hi Everyone,
Just stopped by to say hello. I've been gone a few weeks and haven't even tried to catch up with all the news. Brother in law passed away last week and I've been staying with my sister and caring for her. It's been the worst year for our family. Dad's suicide in March and now my sister's husband. It can only get better from now on, right?
I have really missed you guys and our fun conversations.
I'll be back later once I catch my breath.
DrewB

I'm so sorry for your loss and for your sister Drew. :( :rose: I had you on my mind yesterday. I knew we'd hear from you today. I'm glad you're alright and I know how strong you are.. yes it gets better. It seems you're always on the giving end.. that's why you will make it through. Sending a prayer babe.
:rose:

[deacon]

Hi Everyone,
Just stopped by to say hello. I've been gone a few weeks and haven't even tried to catch up with all the news. Brother in law passed away last week and I've been staying with my sister and caring for her. It's been the worst year for our family. Dad's suicide in March and now my sister's husband. It can only get better from now on, right?
I have really missed you guys and our fun conversations.
I'll be back later once I catch my breath.
DrewB

I am sorry to hear about you BIL. We are remembering you and your family.:rose::rose:

[lighthousedazy]

Hi Everyone,
Just stopped by to say hello. I've been gone a few weeks and haven't even tried to catch up with all the news. Brother in law passed away last week and I've been staying with my sister and caring for her. It's been the worst year for our family. Dad's suicide in March and now my sister's husband. It can only get better from now on, right?
I have really missed you guys and our fun conversations.
I'll be back later once I catch my breath.
DrewB
Drew, I am sorry about your brother in law. We will keep you and your sister and family in our prayers. :rose:

[beemer]

Hi Everyone,
Just stopped by to say hello. I've been gone a few weeks and haven't even tried to catch up with all the news. Brother in law passed away last week and I've been staying with my sister and caring for her. It's been the worst year for our family. Dad's suicide in March and now my sister's husband. It can only get better from now on, right?
I have really missed you guys and our fun conversations.
I'll be back later once I catch my breath.
DrewB
I am so very sorry to hear of your BIL's passing Drew. It sure has been a tough year for your family. Please know you and your family are in our thoughts and prayer's :rose: Take care of yourself :rose:

[Amy]

Drew, sorry to hear of your BIL's death. Prayers for you and your family.

[Marian Paroo]

Hi Everyone,
It can only get better from now on, right?
I have really missed you guys and our fun conversations.
I'll be back later once I catch my breath.
DrewB

And I indeed hope it does. Sorry for your losses.:rose:

[Nawny]

http://www.creators.com/lifestylefeatures/horoscopes/horoscopes-by-holiday.html

[shadydaisy]

Hang in there, DrewBerry, things will get better!

[beemer]

Reminder for those that watch L&O SVU tonight ( I understand it was on last night as well) Season opener and followed by Criminal Minds. Does it get any better than that :beer:

[shadydaisy]

Reminder for those that watch L&O SVU tonight ( I understand it was on last night as well) Season opener and followed by Criminal Minds. Does it get any better than that :beer:

I like L&O-Criminal Intent - that's a different show, right? It's all so confusing.

[beemer]

I like L&O-Criminal Intent - that's a different show, right? It's all so confusing.

Yep Shady it is a different spin off from the original L&O. I like that one too but not enjoying the addition of Jeff Goldblum to the cast. I really like the pairing of Aames and oh gawd forgot his name? Whats his name took awhile to grow on me. Once i understood his character i stopped trying to finish his sentences for him. LOL

[Nawny]

Reminder for those that watch L&O SVU tonight ( I understand it was on last night as well) Season opener and followed by Criminal Minds. Does it get any better than that :beer:

I never could get into Law and Order. Don't know why. Criminal minds, YES!
Isn't Lie to Me on tonight?

There are bill boards all over the state advertizing Dexter. I hate Dexter.. but I watch it anyway. It's the strangest thing. :confused: Who ever wrote that stuff, needs to be watched, I tell ya.

[Nawny]

Yep Shady it is a different spin off from the original L&O. I like that one too but not enjoying the addition of Jeff Goldblum to the cast. I really like the pairing of Aames and oh gawd forgot his name? Whats his name took awhile to grow on me. Once i understood his character i stopped trying to finish his sentences for him. LOL

LOL!!! Isn't L&O fiction?



Poppa's home, gotta go cook..:chicken:

[beemer]

LOL!!! Isn't L&O fiction?



Poppa's home, gotta go cook..:chicken:

Haaaa actually nawny alot of episodes are somewhat based on actual crimes. Remember they did the Ant one? Lie to me starts Monday Sept 28th- it's new season.

[beemer]

Now i remember-Goren :shrug: I have not watched the original L&O as much since Lenny passed away. I miss his one liners :rose:

[beemer]

Oh and Nawny-just for the record Lenny did die in real life. No worries I'm good LMAO :beer:

[Nawny]

Haaaa actually nawny alot of episodes are somewhat based on actual crimes. Remember they did the Ant one? Lie to me starts Monday Sept 28th- it's new season.

Ah yes, I do remember.. I know most people are hooked on it.. But. I'll give it a go. Lie to Me is great, I love that one and I also love In Treatment. It's not the program where they get people sober, or whatever. It's about a shrink who has a revolving Treatment session with certain people and he gets all involved with their lives (emotionally) I love his questions and style. I want to hire him to treat me. ;)

Yeah, TREAT THIS Bub! LOL!

Sour Cream beef soup tonight.. cvooked all day, ate it in ten minutes.

[beemer]

Ah yes, I do remember.. I know most people are hooked on it.. But. I'll give it a go. Lie to Me is great, I love that one and I also love In Treatment. It's not the program where they get people sober, or whatever. It's about a shrink who has a revolving Treatment session with certain people and he gets all involved with their lives (emotionally) I love his questions and style. I want to hire him to treat me. ;)

Yeah, TREAT THIS Bub! LOL!

Sour Cream beef soup tonight.. cvooked all day, ate it in ten minutes.

Hubby really likes Lie to Me-I gotta watch it for sure. Other show sounds good too! Hey you need no fixin girlfriend-your a fixer and prolly dont even realize it :rose:

[hOTwIREd]

I have never seen Dexter - some of my friends have tried to encourage me to whatch it my intimating that I am like the lead character.

Not sure if that is possible. I did spend 13 years working in a forensic laboratory, and I am currently a CSI, but I cannot recall committing any crimes during that period.

Bit strange, but I am not partial to blood and gore in movies - it is getting more and more realistic and brings back memories of crime scenes friom may years ago.

Ironically, I had a flash back to a major crime series I was involved in twenty five years ago today whilst at work. I popped onto the internet and discovered that the offender (who had been sentenced to six life sentences and 20 plus years for other related crimes) was released four years ago.

I came over all weird and my stomach cramped up (that has never happened before) - here am I, still a young (relatively) man, still working at fighting crime, still recalling crimes I helped to solve, and the authorities have let this man go. He never showed any remorse for his horrific crimes when he was caught and sentenced.

Hopefully he has been rehabilitated, seen the error of his ways, and is leading a fruitful life and benefitting society. I hope I can think he has, just to keep my sanity.

[Nawny]

Hubby really likes Lie to Me-I gotta watch it for sure. Other show sounds good too! Hey you need no fixin girlfriend-your a fixer and prolly dont even realize it :rose:

I am among many fixers Beem, yourself included. I'm sure all of us can recognize a broken heart from ten football field's away. :)


Lie to me, is great Bree, because in it's storyline there are clues to how to recognize a lie. I found it interesting that the main character did not want the part, and ended up being great in the role. I love when they put the person in question up on the screen and analyse the body language.

[Nawny]

I have never seen Dexter - some of my friends have tried to encourage me to whatch it my intimating that I am like the lead character.

Not sure if that is possible. I did spend 13 years working in a forensic laboratory, and I am currently a CSI, but I cannot recall committing any crimes during that period.

Bit strange, but I am not partial to blood and gore in movies - it is getting more and more realistic and brings back memories of crime scenes friom may years ago.

Ironically, I had a flash back to a major crime series I was involved in twenty five years ago today whilst at work. I popped onto the internet and discovered that the offender (who had been sentenced to six life sentences and 20 plus years for other related crimes) was released four years ago.

I came over all weird and my stomach cramped up (that has never happened before) - here am I, still a young (relatively) man, still working at fighting crime, still recalling crimes I helped to solve, and the authorities have let this man go. He never showed any remorse for his horrific crimes when he was caught and sentenced.

Hopefully he has been rehabilitated, seen the error of his ways, and is leading a fruitful life and benefitting society. I hope I can think he has, just to keep my sanity.

If you're anything like Dexter, you need to get six life sentences.

[hOTwIREd]

If you're anything like Dexter, you need to get six life sentences.

lol - I would hate to go to prison - well I do go sometimes as we have a prison half a mile from my police station, and when crimes get committed there we have to go investigate.

They lock down the prisoners when we go in and we have to leave all our private articles in lockers before entering but there is still a strange aura about the place.

[Nawny]

lol - I would hate to go to prison - well I do go sometimes as we have a prison half a mile from my police station, and when crimes get committed there we have to go investigate.

They lock down the prisoners when we go in and we have to leave all our private articles in lockers before entering but there is still a strange aura about the place.

:confused: So, it's a half a mile away from your police station? That's good. At least it's close,ya know. And you go to the prison to investigate when crimes are committed there? Hmmm. What kind of crimes are committed in prisons? Is it sort of like when the Count of Montecristo dug his ass out of his cell? Like that? Anyway I thought Alexander Dumas made that up.

It's weeble pick up time. Kindergarten is out at 3:15. Yay!!

:rolleyes:

[shadydaisy]

lol - I would hate to go to prison - well I do go sometimes as we have a prison half a mile from my police station, and when crimes get committed there we have to go investigate.

They lock down the prisoners when we go in and we have to leave all our private articles in lockers before entering but there is still a strange aura about the place.

Is it a County/State/Federal facility? Why don't they use their own Internal Affairs Dept?

[Marian Paroo]

It's Guiness's 250th birthday.

Anyone going out for a :beer: ?

I just came back (it's 23:14)

[shadydaisy]

It's Guiness's 250th birthday.

Anyone going out for a :beer: ?

I just came back (it's 23:14)

Since I am a Guinness drinker it would only be appropriate to wish him well. It will go well with my shots I have to drink from the Haleigh board. Big night ahead for me.

[hOTwIREd]

Is it sort of like when the Count of Montecristo dug his ass out of his cell? Like that? Anyway I thought Alexander Dumas made that up.


lol - I would love to investigate an escape by tunnelling out.

... And you go to the prison to investigate when crimes are committed there? Hmmm. What kind of crimes are committed in prisons?

We get suicides where we have to check they are actual suicides, drug dealing, murders (and suspicious deaths.

Is it a County/State/Federal facility? Why don't they use their own Internal Affairs Dept?

I think they deal with their own minor crimes, they have a Police prison liason officer who exhibits their samples and sends them to a forensics laboratory for analysis.

HMP Peterborough is a local category B prison which is situated on the former site of the Baker Perkins engineering works. The prison is operated by Kalyx under a 25 year contract to the Home Office.

Opening in March 2005, it is the country's only dual purpose-built prison for men and women, who are kept separate at all times. The prison also has a 12 place Mother and Baby Unit.

Operational Capacity: 840 (480 male, 360 female) as of 4th August 2008

Reception Criteria: Normal reception arrangements. Peterborough accepts adult male prisoners from Cambridgeshire and females from Nottinghamshire, Lincolnshire, Leicestershire, Cambridgeshire, Northamptonshire, Norfolk and Suffolk

Accomodation: Cells – see below

Female: The uncrowded capacity is 360 including a separate Mother and Baby Unit which can accommodate 12 mums. The main accommodation comprises of two houseblocks each containing five wings.

Houseblock One holds women on remand and sentenced YOI'S, Detox, Induction and VDT.

Houseblock Two holds Lifers and IPP's, VDT and all sentenced women.

The majority of the accommodation is single occupancy and the wings hold on average 34 women. There is a Separation and Care unit and a 15-bed healthcare facility which incorporates a first night centre for women who are new to custody.

Male: The crowded capacity for male residence is 624. Each wing houses approximately 79 prisoners with the exception of Z2, the enhanced wing, which has 59. There is no VPU at HMP/YOI Peterborough.

There are eight wings on the male side radiating from a central hub and cellular accommodation is in both single and double; there are 8 double cells. The residential area is on two levels.

Each cell has integral sanitation and the wings each have shower facilities, a servery area plus an association area. There are no dining-out facilities on the male residential area. There is a Separation and Care Unit which holds 14 prisoners.

http://www.hmprisonservice.gov.uk/prisoninformation/locateaprison/prison.asp?id=3167,15,2,15,3167,0

The prison is run by a private company called Kalyx (the picture on their home page is of Peterborough Prison (unless all their prisons look the same).
http://www.kalyxservices.com/

HMP Peterborough Kalyx website
http://www.kalyxservices.com/locations/hmp_peterborough.aspx

[hOTwIREd]

It's Guiness's 250th birthday.

Anyone going out for a :beer: ?

I just came back (it's 23:14)

I love Guiness, the best is in the pubs in Dublin (but that may be because of the atmosphere - Eire is a great country, wet, green and full of the most friendly, helpful people I have ever met on holiday). They have trilobites there too (not living ones).

Did I mention how green it is? :)

[Nawny]

I love Guiness, the best is in the pubs in Dublin (but that may be because of the atmosphere - Eire is a great country, wet, green and full of the most friendly, helpful people I have ever met on holiday). They have trilobites there too (not living ones).

Did I mention how green it is? :)

Haaaaa!!!!! Yeth you did! LOL!!!

[beemer]

Since I am a Guinness drinker it would only be appropriate to wish him well. It will go well with my shots I have to drink from the Haleigh board. Big night ahead for me.

Happy Birthday Guinness :beer: I shall live vic. thru you as i have to be to work for 6:30 a.m. I'll make up for it Sat night :eek:

[beemer]

Welcome Hotwired-I just know i didn't cap properly but welcome anyways :seeya:

[Nawny]

Happy Birthday Guinness :beer: I shall live vic. thru you as i have to be to work for 6:30 a.m. I'll make up for it Sat night :eek:

I had a glass of Guinness once in my travels. I like the sweet stuff. Bleh to beer. Baileys! Yayus! Or a chocolate Martini... hmmm I need to learn how to make it at home. I'm going to take gator out for some of those when she gets here next month. We will be yahooin in the piazza! I hope we don't get arrested. ;) LOL! Poppa is the designated driver.

:beer:

[beemer]

I had a glass of Guinness once in my travels. I like the sweet stuff. Bleh to beer. Baileys! Yayus! Or a chocolate Martini... hmmm I need to learn how to make it at home. I'm going to take gator out for some of those when she gets here next month. We will be yahooin in the piazza! I hope we don't get arrested. ;) LOL! Poppa is the designated driver.

:beer:
You go gals:beer: I do like my beer on a hot day. Like that new Bud Light Lime. Like i always say-I'll bring bail $ or an alibi or both LOL

[Nawny]

You go gals:beer: I do like my beer on a hot day. Like that new Bud Light Lime. Like i always say-I'll bring bail $ or an alibi or both LOL

Bud Lite Lime? I can do that. I only drink beer on a very hot day and only with spaghetti. ;-) I'll keep your number in my back pocket Bree. Thanks pal!

[Nawny]

http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/europe/09/24/staffordshire.uk.gold.hoard/index.html

[BeastofBears]

Hey guys, am I the only one who couldn't get on CL yesterday?! I got a "no server response" notice every time I tried, but you all were posting :eek:

[BeastofBears]

http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/europe/09/24/staffordshire.uk.gold.hoard/index.html

I always find those hoards to be really sad. Something was going real bad and some family hid all their valuables...but no one lived to go back and get them.

[Marian Paroo]

I love Guiness, the best is in the pubs in Dublin (but that may be because of the atmosphere - Eire is a great country, wet, green and full of the most friendly, helpful people I have ever met on holiday). They have trilobites there too (not living ones).

Did I mention how green it is? :)


I love Ireland, was in the Republic some, maybe eight years ago, gotta check the dates on my pictures. If my mother's cataract op goes will I'll be visiting a friend in Belfast in November as part of my trip to the UK. Friend is Catholic, was badly hurt duirng The Troubles.

I don't know what her position is re: unification.

I had a glass of Guinness once in my travels. I like the sweet stuff. Bleh to beer. Baileys! Yayus! Or a chocolate Martini... hmmm I need to learn how to make it at home. I'm going to take gator out for some of those when she gets here next month. We will be yahooin in the piazza! I hope we don't get arrested. ;) LOL! Poppa is the designated driver.

:beer:

I think a Martini should be a Martini as Mr. Martini (yeah, there as a Mr. Martini) invented it. You wanna make a drink with chocolate, call it something else. I am very conservative about traditional names of food and drink.

Martinis, traditional ones, make me think of Mad Men.

[Nawny]

I always find those hoards to be really sad. Something was going real bad and some family hid all their valuables...but no one lived to go back and get them.

You think they were not originally lost/buried during the old wars? I have this vision that they buried them to save them from the enemy and no one lived to retrieve them. I mean are you saying they buried them more recently than the 18th century? Anyway I'm glad a poor soul found the hoard. I'm surprised the owner of the property is sharing the find. The man who found them was trespassing. But :shrug: This land my house is on and the house is historic and I have a metal detector. Maybe I should scout around here. lol! But the 1800's in NE can't possibly hold much treasure. Maybe an arrow head or two. It's most likely been turned over many times by now.:hat:

I missed you yesterday. :seeya:

[Nawny]

I love Ireland, was in the Republic some, maybe eight years ago, gotta check the dates on my pictures. If my mother's cataract op goes will I'll be visiting a friend in Belfast in November as part of my trip to the UK. Friend is Catholic, was badly hurt duirng The Troubles.

I don't know what her position is re: unification.



I think a Martini should be a Martini as Mr. Martini (yeah, there as a Mr. Martini) invented it. You wanna make a drink with chocolate, call it something else. I am very conservative about traditional names of food and drink.Martinis, traditional ones, make me think of Mad Men.

Martini's, they smell and taste like aftershave, IMO. Poppa drinks them. Eech!

[BeastofBears]

You think they were not originally lost/buried during the old wars? I have this vision that they buried them to save them from the enemy and no one lived to retrieve them. I mean are you saying they buried them more recently than the 18th century? Anyway I'm glad a poor soul found the hoard. I'm surprised the owner of the property is sharing the find. The man who found them was trespassing. But :shrug: This land my house is on and the house is historic and I have a metal detector. Maybe I should scout around here. lol! But the 1800's in NE can't possibly hold much treasure. Maybe an arrow head or two. It's most likely been turned over many times by now.:hat:

I missed you yesterday. :seeya:

No, I think it was buried in the 7th century or so. Things there were pretty brutal then. The Romans had left a vacuum.

I read the owner gave the guy permission to look, and it's a 50/50 split. The government there has a good system to prevent looting, finds have to be reported to the government. The government sells the items and the finders get the money. Keeps thing going to museums where they should be instead of the interational antiquities trade, or horrors, melted down.

[shadydaisy]

http://i36.tinypic.com/newcbk.jpg

I'm playing around, again. Trying tiny pics since my first photo share came out like a mural.

In the event this works - this is my son swimming in the IronMan held in Kentucky in August.

[BeastofBears]

http://i36.tinypic.com/newcbk.jpg

I'm playing around, again. Trying tiny pics since my first photo share came out like a mural.

In the event this works - this is my son swimming in the IronMan held in Kentucky in August.

Looks good-both photo size and son!

[Amy]

Hey guys, am I the only one who couldn't get on CL yesterday?! I got a "no server response" notice every time I tried, but you all were posting :eek:

Just got on, and no problems yet. But, this does seem to be a few hours later, lol.

[Marian Paroo]

No, I think it was buried in the 7th century or so. Things there were pretty brutal then. The Romans had left a vacuum.

I read the owner gave the guy permission to look, and it's a 50/50 split. The government there has a good system to prevent looting, finds have to be reported to the government. The government sells the items and the finders get the money. Keeps thing going to museums where they should be instead of the interational antiquities trade, or horrors, melted down.

Roman Empire, but then, I think, the Holy Roman Empire collapsed in the late 5th century. Leading to the Dark Ages for give or take 200 years.

Arthur, according to Mary Zimmer Bradley's telling of the tale, managed to stave off the Dark Ages for a generation.

[Nawny]

No, I think it was buried in the 7th century or so. Things there were pretty brutal then. The Romans had left a vacuum.

I read the owner gave the guy permission to look, and it's a 50/50 split. The government there has a good system to prevent looting, finds have to be reported to the government. The government sells the items and the finders get the money. Keeps thing going to museums where they should be instead of the interational antiquities trade, or horrors, melted down.

AH! Okay, 7th century.. OMG! Yes museums is where they belong. I'd give a lot to see those things and even more to actually touch them. I didn't know the land owner gave the finder permission, OK! Bless them both for the discovery! Great find! There has to be more. I wonder how large the actual area is that they dug up.

[Nawny]

http://i36.tinypic.com/newcbk.jpg

I'm playing around, again. Trying tiny pics since my first photo share came out like a mural.

In the event this works - this is my son swimming in the IronMan held in Kentucky in August.

Wonderful shot! Is that your piano player? :)

Tiny pics offers 3 options. Copy the option for message boards. It's sized for such and I think you did that already.

[shadydaisy]

Wonderful shot! Is that your piano player? :)

Tiny pics offers 3 options. Copy the option for message boards. It's sized for such and I think you did that already.

Yep, that's the piano player. I like the tinypic site - I could figure it out!

BoB - thanks!

[Wagsy]

Hi Everyone,
Just stopped by to say hello. I've been gone a few weeks and haven't even tried to catch up with all the news. Brother in law passed away last week and I've been staying with my sister and caring for her. It's been the worst year for our family. Dad's suicide in March and now my sister's husband. It can only get better from now on, right?
I have really missed you guys and our fun conversations.
I'll be back later once I catch my breath.
DrewB

Just want to add my sympathies and let you know I'm thinking of you at this time. :rose:

[Wagsy]

ok yall i have been gone this whole time and guess what. i had the baby on 9-15 at 4:46pm and he weighed in at 7lbs 3 oz at 20 1/2 inches long after about a 7 hour labor, here is a pic for all your baby enjoyment :biggrin: couldn't figure out how to put the pic on here so check out my new avatar!

Okay, I'm late and catching up but that is one hot sweetie! Papa must be proud too. Congrats and hope all are doing well! LOVE the new avatar! :rose:

[beemer]

Yep, that's the piano player. I like the tinypic site - I could figure it out!

BoB - thanks!

Nice pic Shady-thanks for sharing-how did he make out?

[beemer]

Wagsy good to see ya:seeya:

[shadydaisy]

Nice pic Shady-thanks for sharing-how did he make out?

He was really happy with how it went. He does a lot of half IronMan's but this was his first real IronMan. He thought it would take him 12 hours but it *only* took him 11 hours. There were around 2500 entries and he finished in the top 200. He's been swimming and biking on the National level for years - running is not his thing. If they could do away with the 26 mile run he would be extremely happy.

[beemer]

He was really happy with how it went. He does a lot of half IronMan's but this was his first real IronMan. He thought it would take him 12 hours but it *only* took him 11 hours. There were around 2500 entries and he finished in the top 200. He's been swimming and biking on the National level for years - running is not his thing. If they could do away with the 26 mile run he would be extremely happy.

Holy shamolly!!!! Good for him thats amazing :beer: Think how healthy he is body and soul WOW!!!!

[BeastofBears]

Roman Empire, but then, I think, the Holy Roman Empire collapsed in the late 5th century. Leading to the Dark Ages for give or take 200 years.

Arthur, according to Mary Zimmer Bradley's telling of the tale, managed to stave off the Dark Ages for a generation.

I love the Mists of Avalon.

[BeastofBears]

AH! Okay, 7th century.. OMG! Yes museums is where they belong. I'd give a lot to see those things and even more to actually touch them. I didn't know the land owner gave the finder permission, OK! Bless them both for the discovery! Great find! There has to be more. I wonder how large the actual area is that they dug up.

I bet it was pretty small, like a hole was dug and stuff was in a bag (which of course is gone by now.) There was a largish gold cross that had been folded up to make it smaller, so concealment was definitely important. (If you ever get the chance to touch things before the officials get there, gold honestly won't suffer much, but never touch bronze! There is actually something called "bronze disease" from skin oil. Note: I am not recommending touching anything, just...you know...)

I worked a site in Israel where this woman was crushed by a collapsing wall and near her hand was a little pile of jewelry and whatnots. But mixed in were the remnants of the clasp from her purse, so it made sense. So she ran into a collapsing building to rescue her purse. Let that be a lesson to us all! Some things never change...

[Marian Paroo]

I love the Mists of Avalon.


From what I heard and read, the 2 part tv movie made of it was a total mutilation (vile screenplay), despite some really good actors.


I worked a site in Israel where this woman was crushed by a collapsing wall and near her hand was a little pile of jewelry and whatnots. But mixed in were the remnants of the clasp from her purse, so it made sense. So she ran into a collapsing building to rescue her purse. Let that be a lesson to us all! Some things never change...

On my email I have the following signature quote from Dave Berry's Book of Bad Songs: "'Teen Angel' is not so much a tragedy as it is an illustration of how the law of natural selection improves the gene pool."

[Nawny]

I bet it was pretty small, like a hole was dug and stuff was in a bag (which of course is gone by now.) There was a largish gold cross that had been folded up to make it smaller, so concealment was definitely important. (If you ever get the chance to touch things before the officials get there, gold honestly won't suffer much, but never touch bronze! There is actually something called "bronze disease" from skin oil. Note: I am not recommending touching anything, just...you know...)

I worked a site in Israel where this woman was crushed by a collapsing wall and near her hand was a little pile of jewelry and whatnots. But mixed in were the remnants of the clasp from her purse, so it made sense. So she ran into a collapsing building to rescue her purse. Let that be a lesson to us all! Some things never change...

Greeeeed.. one of the 7 deadlies. That never changes. :no:

Wouldn't it make sense that if there was all that gold and silver, there would be more in the area. And can it be possible that the earth changed or shifted, and that might not have been where it was originally buried? One more question; Can it be that it was buried much deeper and the erosion could be the reason that hoard was actually so close to the surface? If I'm all wet, I'll sit down now. Just wondering. :o I know less than nothing about these matters.

I'll keep the touch warnings in mind, thanks BoB. I'm so tactile. I touch everything. (Except dirty old men;) I kick them in the knees.

[beemer]

Long but an interesting read for those inclined-I hope this link works :shrug:
Nope i will try again