Cindy's interview some more details

[mu8shark]

I found the transcript of Cindys interview with local LE and did not exactly do a summary like George's because I thought maybe everyone had heard it on video or read it but I did find some interesting things in it. One is that over the period of the month she did not see Casey but heard from her on the phone or by text messages, Casey told her some real whoppers and even more lies. First of all, Casey claims to Cindy that she and Jeff Hopkins are in some sort of a relationship , she says she is in Jacksonville meeting him there and that they are thinking of becoming a family, this is around the 11th to 14th of July. She tells Cindy that she, Jeff, his son Zack and Caylee went to Target. At one point she makes plans to get together with Cindy and George for 4th of July but backs off because Jeff's mom got married and I guess Jeff went. She also tells Cindy that around July 10 she wakes up and her car is gone and Jeff had taken it in for repairs. My comment on this , is why is she promoting this idea that she is in a relationship with this guy, to what end? How does it serve her story? Also I wanted to talk about what Casey told Cindy about the end of June which is that she , Julia and a girl named Jennifer who is Zanny's roomate were all in Tampa as supposedly Zenaida got in a car wreck. Well I know we all have heard this but here are more details . Supposedly, Jennifer was watching Caylee because Zanni could not because of her injury or whatever. Also she tells Cindy that all of them , including Jeff Hopkins at one point go and stay in a hotel and sit around shoot the bull. It is kind of vague but enough details to keep her away from home, so she has an excuse, which I think may be why she is telling so many stories involving so many people, so that if Cindy or George ask when are you coming home or whatever, she can say, Oh i am doing this or that with this person. She is keeping herself busy so she does not have to present Caylee. The problem with this end of June story is that it completely messes up her story that Zenaida took Caylee June 16 and she never saw Zenaida or Caylee again. Obviously if they are all hamming it up and shooting the bull in a hotel in the end of June, then both stories are bull. Also , at one point in the interview Cindy tells LE that Casey told them Zenaida knocked her down and took Caylee away from her and I guess Casey said certain friends witnessed this and Cindy says she and George can't actually find any friends who witnesses this. (Duh) So now we have three Zenaida stories, the one from the 16th at Sawgrass, the one where she and Zenaida are all pals at end of June when Zenaida gets in a wreck and she sees her later at a hotel and then the story where Zenaida knocks her down and runs off with Caylee(I suspect this is an offshoot of the Blanchard Park story with the script). Also, Cindy tells LE that she and Casey before June did not text often, they talked on the phone but Cindy says in texts if was easier for Casey to cut her off and not talk to her as long, So LE says, so a text was a way for her to make up a story about where Caylee was, it was easier that way than on the phone (I am paraphrasing ) and Cindy immediately says, I did not say that, that she was making stuff up. Defensive from the start. Also on the pair of pants, Cindy says at first the pants stunk , they were quote nasty and she washed them right away, yet she admits she did not wash any more of Caseys clothes for a full week or so. I find this suspicious. There were other items of clothes in the car as far as I can tell. Yet she only washed the pants. What was on the pants? She says they smelled like the car but says it was a smell of smoke. Yeah right. She also says when she unpacked Caseys stuff, there was like nothing of Caylees which was unusual, They were always clothes, diapers, snacks , you know the usual kid stuff. She also accuses the police of taking three things they did not list in the inventory, Amys resumes, Caseys work ID and a shamrock thing made of beads. The police tell her they will look for it. I wonder myself if Casey ditched these or had Lee or a friend take them. The work ID was probably invalid, the resumes she really should not have had as they were Amys and I have a feeling Casey filled out the resume trying to impersonate Amy and the beads and shamrocks, well you know what they found at the park. End of my post part one

[mu8shark]

Now here is part two of what I found interesting, Cindy I can see is starting to lay stuff off on Caseys friends. First of all she tries to make a big deal out of the fact that Amy and two other friends of Caseys went to Puerto Rico separately. Cindy finds that suspicious and odd, why did they not ride on the plane together? LE tells her they have looked into this, one of them had a work commitment and could not fly out, one went on standby, thus getting a cheaper ticket. Secondly, I guess when the friends get together with Cindy and George to do a timeline after Casey is arrested the first time, Jesse wants to be in charge of the timeline. Cindy tells him no and that he can have input but she is doing it , she is in charge . Now also Cindy says that Jesse says he spoke to Casey on the 27th of June and Cindy ask him, Did you hear Caylee in the background at all? And he says no absolutely not. Then later a day or so later he calls Cindy and says it was June 24 he talked to Casey because he checked his phone for the right date and surprise he not only heard Casey telling Caylee get off the table but he heard Caylee in the background. Let me give you my opinion of this. I think the date of the phone call is an honest mistake. I often think I talked to my cousin on a Thursday , look at my caller id and low and behold it was Friday or whatever. The second part I think is Casey interfering and playing with Jesse either asking him to say that or she may have suggested it, saying Yeah remember I talked to you and I was yelling at Caylee to get down and you heard her? Remember? I think she put that idea in him to say it and once he realized it was a serious, even deadly matter, he told LE , Oh wait, I guess I did not hear her after all. Right it is one thing to lie to Cindy, but the police. Also Cindy starts in on Amy, Ricardo and Tony, she claims before she called Amy to help her find Casey she had never met Amy at all. I thought Amy was Caseys best friend! It makes me wonder if Casey is one of those liars who compartmentalizes her life and friends to keep people away from each other, so they won't compare stories on her lies. Cindy also tells police that Tony , Ricardo and Amy are into drugs and that Casey got in with them and they were a bad influence. In the next breath she says because my family was threatened that if Casey told the truth about where Caylee was, some harm would come to us or to Caylee. And LE says and Amy, Ricardo and Tony made the threats. And Cindy says Oh I don't know if it was exactly them, but I think people maybe involved with them . She is very vague on this. Then she tells police she has another agency looking into this angle and they think there is something to this. In the end two very interesting things happen, one Cindy asks about the dogs and whether they hit or were inconclusive or whether there was one or two dogs that hit and the detective gets absolutely vague on this, claims he can't share that with her and kind of intimates he is not sure about that. But Cindy really seems to want to know about this esp the backyard and the car. Then they ask her to swear to her statement and she does not like it. She says, I thought this was just a timeline, not a statement or a deposition, nobody said anything about having to swear to anything. And she kind of mumbles something like, I am just saying....And she says I am telling the truth about what I can remember or as best I remember. and it appears she did not raise her right hand and swear at al, not as far as I can tell. . What I find curious about this is that already she is trying to set up Caseys friends, so instead of Casey killing or harming Caylee, we have four or five possible culprits, Cindy is suspicous of, Zenaida, Amy, Tony, Jesse and Ricardo. It is like she is throwing everything on the wall hoping something will stick in the minds of LE. .

[Brainstorm]

AWESOME POSTS,mu8 !!! I think you've hit the nail on the head.That about compartmentalization, IMO, is exactly right.
She didnt figure on anyone comparing LIES she told each.

Cindy is ENABLING Casey because she is exactly like her.Their lives are LIES.
Now, to sort this out and find Caylee,?? OMG,what would break her?
IMO, it will be some old fashioned,behind the tree,beat the s/h/i/t out of her,ONLY.

[One2Snoop]

Thank you mu8 - awesome posts. :beer:

IMO, it will be some old fashioned,behind the tree,beat the s/h/i/t out of her,ONLY.
LOL Brainstorm - now only if LE or someone could resort to such tactics we might find Caylee.

[Twinners]

Thank you mu8 for posting this! I tried to listen to all of Cindy's interviews yesterday, but found it very hard to do. She was just way too defensive for me. George's interviews had a completely different feel to them, IMO. He seemed much more open with the detectives than Cindy did.

[Brainstorm]

Thank you mu8 - awesome posts. :beer:


LOL Brainstorm - now only if LE or someone could resort to such tactics we might find Caylee.

Thank you mu8 for posting this! I tried to listen to all of Cindy's interviews yesterday, but found it very hard to do. She was just way too defensive for me. George's interviews had a completely different feel to them, IMO. He seemed much more open with the detectives than Cindy did.

One2,imo,in such EXTREME cases as this, with a CHILD involved,"SOMEONE" should resort to such tactics.
Hurt(or kill) a child and IMO, rights,protection,be dammed!!!!
I just cannot understand how anyone can sit there Hoping they get away with what they've done!!!
Twin,I agree about George being straight with LE. But its like looking at different people when he's with Cindyand in front of a camera.

[Brainstorm]

Excellent posts above-I'm all for caneing (sp?)-they still do it in Asia!!!

Is this,taking a stalk of cane and beating the s/h/i/t out of one?If so, I know where a cane patch is.

[mu8shark]

Is this,taking a stalk of cane and beating the s/h/i/t out of one?If so, I know where a cane patch is. I actually had a dream last night I was one of the protestors and I was yelling at Casey about how she drugged and threw her daughter in the trunk like a tire iron. It is the first time I have ever had a dream about a true crime case.

[Mac]

I have been one of those obsessed with this case since the beginning. And I have always maintained that Cindy is dirty....She need to get some questions answered for me.....Here are a few:

how could you & george be so ignorant to NOT KNOW casey WAS NOT really working as an events organizer at Universal for years?

Did you honestly NOT KNOW casey was unemployed for years?
If so, how could her NOT WORKING in years get by you & george when casey lived right under your roof?

You want us to believe there is a nanny that you nor anyone else ever seen or meet?

Why did you not know her and have an emergency number & address for her?

Did you not care about Caylee enough to know these things when Caylee was also living under your roof with who you call a sociopath?

You've called Casey a sociopath, did you ever seek care for her with mental health professionals?

Why didn't you answer the phone calls from Casey on June 16 and 18?

Did Caylee ever talk about Zanaida,

If Caylee is alive, why can't they tell the whole truth now ?

Cindy Why where you threatening Casey in regards to Custody, and never did do anything to protect Caylee if you knew casey was unfit?

And these are just a few for starters.

If we get any more document dumps, like we did this week,...she is going to explode

[sharlock]

Thank you mu8 for posting this! I tried to listen to all of Cindy's interviews yesterday, but found it very hard to do. She was just way too defensive for me. George's interviews had a completely different feel to them, IMO. He seemed much more open with the detectives than Cindy did.
I had thought George was much more open but now I see that he lied to them about chasing Casey in her mothers car. I thought he hesitated when they asked him if he had e-pass on his car and then nervously goes into a diatribe of additional useless info which seems to be the whole families reaction to being caught in a lie. Never Happened.... so why did he lie? :shrug:
Also he has lied about the trunk story first he tells one group of detectives that he never got to look in the trunk because of Casey and then he tells the FBI that he absolutely did look in the trunk. Convenient methinks that he can now say a difinitive "there was nothinh out of place in the trunk" It doesn't add up he seemed so open and truthful, I think he got hold of some of that caseyKoolaid.:cool:

[sharlock]

I just watched that video again "Cindy's reaction to email". Guess what she lies! She says that she asked LE if she could was Caseys pants because they smelled like smoke when LE clearly state that they didn't take the pants because Cindy said that she had already washed them! This family is too much!