Caylee Anthony Case Discussion Only

[lorettalockhorn]

I've never been to Loretta territory either. Shame on me, shame shame:punch:

It seems they don't solicit their wares around here. What sa mattah? You don't like tourists? Do you live near the Clinton's? :chicken: I do like the bad boy though. Actually, I admire his life story. He made the American dream come alive again.

What board am I on? I smell the A's.. uh oh!

Doesn't Billary live in NY State? He actually spent part of his early childhood in my father's hometown Hope, and was very kind and attentive to My Sainted Grandparents (Yellow Dog Democrats!!), always sending BDay and anniversary and Christmas cards. It's hard to dislike him, he's charming and smart as a whip. I've met them a few times and had a pic made with him at a hospital function back when he was the Guv. The grands adored that photo. Quick story: We were at a lah di dah wedding a few years back that they attended, and I heard the guy behind me tell his son that the next person who entered the church was the POTUS. Well, in walked Hillary. Everyone around us cracked up. :hat:

[lorettalockhorn]

What happened Lor? They injured you?:confused:

I miss OS too, I hope she's okay. I'm starting to worry now. :shrug:

It was a hot wax accident! :eek:

Does anyone email or IM with OS? Hope she's okay and just busy.

[Wagsy]

I'm telling you like a friend, that even though it's unseasonably cool here, the humidity is still unbearable. Could NOT live without AC! And even though we have a nuclear power plant on the horizon, we still pay outrageous electric rates since Entergy apparently sells the cheap power to other states. :cuss: But don't get me wrong, it's beautiful here and we would love to see you. Cause we'uns love y'all!

http://i6.tinypic.com/7wqgmjb.jpg

Well, we'uns ain't gettin' the cheap power in our state! :flamemad: We already have a nuclear power plant and it taint helped us much as far as I can see by the bills we get!!! :(

We could maybe figure out a way to get our bills paid for and be on TV if we was like the A's!!! On second thought, scratch that idea.

[SaraSidle]

They're grown up, they can fiend for themselves!

But you're right, maybe we need a triplex. tehee

triplets would be good. where?

[lorettalockhorn]

Well, we'uns ain't gettin' the cheap power in our state! :flamemad: We already have a nuclear power plant and it taint helped us much as far as I can see by the bills we get!!! :(

We could maybe figure out a way to get our bills paid for and be on TV if we was like the A's!!! On second thought, scratch that idea.

Entergy has had several rate increases in the past few years; just don't see why the public service commission approves them, yet the power they sell to other states is cheaper. Go figure. We haven't had a bill less that $200 in years.

No one. I repeat, no one is like the discordAnts.

[SaraSidle]

Well, we'uns ain't gettin' the cheap power in our state! :flamemad: We already have a nuclear power plant and it taint helped us much as far as I can see by the bills we get!!! :(

We could maybe figure out a way to get our bills paid for and be on TV if we was like the A's!!! On second thought, scratch that idea.

what an awful thought Wagsy. Be on on tv like the A's??? I will be the dog. IMO sara

[lorettalockhorn]

triplets would be good. where?

Man, I'm not sure where I'd like to live right now. I used to think Florida around Estero or Naples. And as a matter of fact with the housing bust maybe we could afford something! Although the state seems loaded with pedophiles and hurricanes and other ugly elements.

[Wagsy]

what an awful thought Wagsy. Be on on tv like the A's??? I will be the dog. IMO sara

Do they have more than one dog? If so, I'll be the other. They might get treated better than the humans in that house. :D MOO

[Wagsy]

Man, I'm not sure where I'd like to live right now. I used to think Florida around Estero or Naples. And as a matter of fact with the housing bust maybe we could afford something! Although the state seems loaded with pedophiles and hurricanes and other ugly elements.

Are you sayin' something about Gator? :eek: No, jus kiddin'! I know what you mean by 'other ugly elements'. :D Those squirrels will get ya' every time!

http://i40.tinypic.com/21afkzm.jpg

[SaraSidle]

Man, I'm not sure where I'd like to live right now. I used to think Florida around Estero or Naples. And as a matter of fact with the housing bust maybe we could afford something! Although the state seems loaded with pedophiles and hurricanes and other ugly elements.

Oh loretta........poor gator woman. I love to live by water. Carolina's. Maybe george will say we can have his boat......Naples does not sound awful. maybe we could go undercover and bust them. no not the hurricanes

[SaraSidle]

Do they have more than one dog? If so, I'll be the other. They might get treated better than the humans in that house. :D MOO

I thought there were 2 Wagsy and they looked alike and yes I am sure they were spoiled. nothing saying we cannot run away either...LOL sara

[deacon]

Oh loretta........poor gator woman. I love to live by water. Carolina's. Maybe george will say we can have his boat......Naples does not sound awful. maybe we could go undercover and bust them. no not the hurricanes

I am in the carolinas and wish I lived by the water. Hurricanes are not so bad, at least you know they are coming and if you are at least average intelligence, you can get out of the way. "go west young man, go west."

[Wagsy]

Oh loretta........poor gator woman. I love to live by water. Carolina's. Maybe george will say we can have his boat......Naples does not sound awful. maybe we could go undercover and bust them. no not the hurricanes
Georgie letting you have his boat is like saying their foundation actually looks for missing children. I wouldn't get my heart set on it too much. JMO

[Wagsy]

I am in the carolinas and wish I lived by the water. Hurricanes are not so bad, at least you know they are coming and if you are at least average intelligence, you can get out of the way. "go west young man, go west."

Go west young man and you'll run into tornadoes. ;)

[deacon]

Go west young man and you'll run into tornadoes. ;)

Not that far west. Just to about Georgia. :biggrin:

[BeastofBears]

I am in the carolinas and wish I lived by the water. Hurricanes are not so bad, at least you know they are coming and if you are at least average intelligence, you can get out of the way. "go west young man, go west."

I prefer earthquakes. At least we know where our stuff is after...although it is still in 12 pieces.

[deacon]

QUOTE=BeastofBears;9207115]I prefer earthquakes. At least we know where our stuff is after...although it is still in 12 pieces.[/QUOTE]

Never been through one of those. Hurricanes, yep, small tornados, yep. We are having a lot of severe thunderstorms here right now. Have been for a couple of weeks. No fun. We just got a sever thunderstorm warning. Glad I am not at work.:eek:

[BeastofBears]

Ummm....did you guys know Cindy was being deposed by the prosecution today and you were holding out on BoB?

http://www.wftv.com/news/20205386/detail.html

[Amy]

I am in the carolinas and wish I lived by the water. Hurricanes are not so bad, at least you know they are coming and if you are at least average intelligence, you can get out of the way. "go west young man, go west."

Our cousins in the earthquake territory of CA say they would never live in KS because of the tornadoes. I say, you generally have plenty of warning about tornadoes--just being aware of the weather, you know when a storm is coming, and you know to listen to warnings. With earthquakes, there just isn't much time for warning.

Hurricanes, yeah, you know they are coming. But with tornadoes, you just chill out in the basement. With hurricanes, you have to pack up leave, it seems. That would be much more disruptive than spending a few hours underground, IMO.

[deacon]

Our cousins in the earthquake territory of CA say they would never live in KS because of the tornadoes. I say, you generally have plenty of warning about tornadoes--just being aware of the weather, you know when a storm is coming, and you know to listen to warnings. With earthquakes, there just isn't much time for warning.

Hurricanes, yeah, you know they are coming. But with tornadoes, you just chill out in the basement. With hurricanes, you have to pack up leave, it seems. That would be much more disruptive than spending a few hours underground, IMO.

The east eye wall of Hugo went right through my town. We didn't leave. Lots of damage but our house made it. My storage shed, on the other hand, was about 20' wrapped around a tree. Thing is, it was full of tornados. There were 27 on radar in the county at one time. It was kinda messy and no one came to "rescue" us. We cleaned it up ourselves.

[lorettalockhorn]

Are you sayin' something about Gator? :eek: No, jus kiddin'! I know what you mean by 'other ugly elements'. :D Those squirrels will get ya' every time!

http://i40.tinypic.com/21afkzm.jpg

Gator the poster is a beauty in my book!

Oh, and I actually like tree rats!

[lorettalockhorn]

Oh loretta........poor gator woman. I love to live by water. Carolina's. Maybe george will say we can have his boat......Naples does not sound awful. maybe we could go undercover and bust them. no not the hurricanes

Pat Conroy made me love the Carolina low country. We like the west coast, and a friend of ours from Florida told us that Southern Florida is like the northern US, and northern Florida is like the Southern US. Guess that's why we like Estero and Naples so much.

[Wagsy]

State Prosecutors Depose Cindy Anthony

Posted: 5:09 pm EDT July 28, 2009
Updated: 6:37 pm EDT July 28, 2009

ORLANDO, Fla. -- Cindy Anthony was called to the State Attorney's Office on Tuesday to answer questions in her daughter's murder case and only Eyewitness News was there. Cindy was deposed Tuesday to answer questions under oath.

It has been a long time since Cindy Anthony agreed to answer the questions of people involved in prosecuting her daughter for murder, but Tuesday she was under subpoena to answer.

CINDY ARRIVES: See Images | Watch Raw Video
VIDEO REPORT: Cindy Anthony Gets Deposed

For some reason, Cindy's deposition was hush-hush. All the others so far were made public through court documents, but Eyewitness News tipped off. Caylee Anthony's grandmother walked into the State Attorney's Office with no fanfare or fiery comments, choosing instead to say nothing.

When she was questioned by investigators two weeks after she reported Caylee missing and said it smelled like a dead body in Casey's car, she completely changed her story.

"I find it very hard to believe that Caylee, Casey had an opportunity to put Caylee in there for a short period of time to get the car stench that bad," Cindy told investigators in August.

Tuesday, months after they stopped communicating with investigators, there were a lot of new questions, some about the evidence taken from the Anthonys' home in December, which investigators say matches evidence found with Caylee's remains.

Eyewitness News asked defense attorney Jose Baez whether he was concerned about Cindy's deposition Tuesday.

"We'll have to see how it goes. Let the state do their thing," Baez said.

Cindy left the courthouse with her attorney after 5:00pm after facing four hours of questioning under oath and made no comment.

"It's an ongoing investigation. There's nothing to hide. Nothing to do. It's part of what the State Attorney's Office does," attorney Brad Conway said. "There's nothing about this case for George and Cindy or Lee, there's nothing easy about it for anybody."

The deposition is not public unless one of the parties asks for a transcript. Then the transcript would be a public record.

http://www.wftv.com/news/20205386/detail.html

___________________________

Hope one of the parties asks for a transcript so we have access to it too!!!

[lorettalockhorn]

Not that far west. Just to about Georgia. :biggrin:

Erica Glasener on Gardener's Diary (HGTV) profiles some of the most gorgeous gardens in Georgia.

[BeastofBears]

So here's the raw footage of the arrivals with Kathi Belich. http://www.wftv.com/video/20204770/index.html

Is it odd that Conway didn't arrive with Cindy? Was this a surprise deposition? And what was Baez doing there if it is the state doing the deposition? Is that normal?

Could this be related to the document issue on Friday?

[BeastofBears]

*snip*

Hope one of the parties asks for a transcript so we have access to it too!!!

Maybe that's why Baez was there, so he wouldn't have to ask for a transcript and have it public. But...seriously, is it normal for the defense attorney to be at a prosecution deposition? This seems so odd to me in many ways.

[Wagsy]

ANTHONYS HAND OVER DOCUMENTS

George and Cindy Anthony were able to get out of a court hearing Friday by handing over documents about their daughter, Casey Anthony. The State Attorney's Office plans to use the documents in Casey's murder trial.

George and Cindy Anthony were ordered to be in court Friday afternoon, but their attorney, Brad Conway, managed to put the brakes on that just before the hearing.

"Everything is done. Everything is settled," Conway said Friday morning.

BRAD CONWAY: Before, After Meeting With Judge
VIDEO REPORT: Hearing Cancelled, Documents Turned Over

Judge Stan Strickland had scheduled the hearing for 1:30pm. Judge Strickland wanted to know why he shouldn't hold the Anthonys in contempt of court because the State Attorney's Office requested information stored on the family's computer earlier this month, but it was never turned over.

Friday morning, Conway hand-delivered what could be evidence in the case against Casey.

"Why is it taking so long for these documents to be turned over the attorney's office?" WFTV reporter Mark Boyle asked.

"There's not an issue there. Just sometimes it takes time to get things together," Conway replied.

However, Conway blamed the Anthonys' broken computer.

"Whose computer were the documents stored on?" Boyle asked.

"Mark, I'm not going to comment on that right now," Conway replied.

Conway would not give any details about what was in the documents. The public will not find out what's in them until the prosecution makes it part of the public record.

Meanwhile, Casey Anthony remains behind bars at the Orange County jail charged with killing her daughter, Caylee Marie Anthony. Casey Anthony's trial date was originally set for October, but it was recently rescheduled for January 21.

http://www.wftv.com/news/20205386/detail.html

[deacon]

Erica Glass on Gardener's Diary (HGTV) profiles some of the most gorgeous gardens in Georgia.

For a few years we went to Macon to see the Braves farm team play. The team was in my home town for several years, most of the Braves team that won the world series played in my home town at one time or the other. When we traveled to Macon, we went down the Antebellem Trail. Some of the most beautiful places I have ever seen.

[Wagsy]

Maybe that's why Baez was there, so he wouldn't have to ask for a transcript and have it public. But...seriously, is it normal for the defense attorney to be at a prosecution deposition? This seems so odd to me in many ways.

That would be my take on why Baez would have been there. But, I should think Brad would have been present, too, since it is HIS client. :shrug:

[BeastofBears]

That would be my take on why Baez would have been there. But, I should think Brad would have been present, too, since it is HIS client. :shrug:

He was there, but he didn't come in with her.

[Wagsy]

PROSECUTORS FILE MOTION FOR TRANSCRIPT IN CASEY CASE

Prosecutors in the case against Casey Anthony say they want transcripts. They want a judge to order a transcript from part of a hearing in March.

READ: Motion For Transcription
VIDEO REPORT: New Motion Filed


During that hearing, prosecutors questioned who was paying for Casey's defense and whether her attorney was involved in a conflict of interest.

According to the Ninth Circuit Court, on Thursday the court reporter filed an Affidavit stating that the sidebar conference at the end of the hearing on March 25, 2009 was held off the record. Therefore, no transcript is available of that portion of the hearing. The in-camera was on the record, but is sealed.

Prosecutors want to use the transcript for Casey's murder trial in 2010. Casey Anthony is in the Orange County jail accused of killing her daughter Caylee Anthony.

http://www.wftv.com/news/20205386/detail.html

[SaraSidle]

I am in the carolinas and wish I lived by the water. Hurricanes are not so bad, at least you know they are coming and if you are at least average intelligence, you can get out of the way. "go west young man, go west."

ITA Deacon.

[lorettalockhorn]

Ummm....did you guys know Cindy was being deposed by the prosecution today and you were holding out on BoB?

http://www.wftv.com/news/20205386/detail.html

Thanks for the link! Sounds like Cindy kept her trap shut today. (Well, we don't actually know if she chewed her cud or not.)

[Wagsy]

He was there, but he didn't come in with her.

Watched the video clip you posted; I had only read the print. Was this "strategic strategy" to outsmart the media that was there and have them running all over and not getting answers to any questions? Or, maybe she feels she doesn't need his 'protection' ~ she can do it all by herself! :shrug: But that's gotten her into a lot of trouble in the past!!! :no:

[SaraSidle]

Ummm....did you guys know Cindy was being deposed by the prosecution today and you were holding out on BoB?

http://www.wftv.com/news/20205386/detail.html

Now how could this get by us!!!!!!! thank you BOB

[lorettalockhorn]

Our cousins in the earthquake territory of CA say they would never live in KS because of the tornadoes. I say, you generally have plenty of warning about tornadoes--just being aware of the weather, you know when a storm is coming, and you know to listen to warnings. With earthquakes, there just isn't much time for warning.

Hurricanes, yeah, you know they are coming. But with tornadoes, you just chill out in the basement. With hurricanes, you have to pack up leave, it seems. That would be much more disruptive than spending a few hours underground, IMO.

Amy, that's kind of how it is here in Arkietown. You can feel a tornado coming, I guess when the barometer drops. We've got a basement but haven't skittered down there yet, although Leroy's been caught down there when a storm blew up. I've always heard a tornado wouldn't just the Arkansas River, but a killer storm sure as heck did 2/5/08. I usually grab my laptop and head for either my bathroom or the master closet because they're both interior rooms.

My bro&SIL are in Wichita and they hate the weather (along with just about everything else).

[SaraSidle]

Pat Conroy made me love the Carolina low country. We like the west coast, and a friend of ours from Florida told us that Southern Florida is like the northern US, and northern Florida is like the Southern US. Guess that's why we like Estero and Naples so much.

Estero and Naples is a place to start!!!!!

[Wagsy]

What a hoot! One of the videos from WFTV says Jose is nicknamed "Juannie Cochran" after Johnnie Cochran who tried OJ. He got Henry Lee, Linda KB, Andrea Lyons, Todd Macaluso and his lead investigator who all worked on OJ's case! They're saying he did some research for Cochran and that led to the retaining of those listed above. Could this spell trouble? :confused: :eek:

http://www.wftv.com/video/20204770/index.html

[SaraSidle]

State Prosecutors Depose Cindy Anthony

Posted: 5:09 pm EDT July 28, 2009
Updated: 6:37 pm EDT July 28, 2009

ORLANDO, Fla. -- Cindy Anthony was called to the State Attorney's Office on Tuesday to answer questions in her daughter's murder case and only Eyewitness News was there. Cindy was deposed Tuesday to answer questions under oath.

It has been a long time since Cindy Anthony agreed to answer the questions of people involved in prosecuting her daughter for murder, but Tuesday she was under subpoena to answer.

CINDY ARRIVES: See Images | Watch Raw Video
VIDEO REPORT: Cindy Anthony Gets Deposed

For some reason, Cindy's deposition was hush-hush. All the others so far were made public through court documents, but Eyewitness News tipped off. Caylee Anthony's grandmother walked into the State Attorney's Office with no fanfare or fiery comments, choosing instead to say nothing.

When she was questioned by investigators two weeks after she reported Caylee missing and said it smelled like a dead body in Casey's car, she completely changed her story.

"I find it very hard to believe that Caylee, Casey had an opportunity to put Caylee in there for a short period of time to get the car stench that bad," Cindy told investigators in August.

Tuesday, months after they stopped communicating with investigators, there were a lot of new questions, some about the evidence taken from the Anthonys' home in December, which investigators say matches evidence found with Caylee's remains.

Eyewitness News asked defense attorney Jose Baez whether he was concerned about Cindy's deposition Tuesday.

"We'll have to see how it goes. Let the state do their thing," Baez said.

Cindy left the courthouse with her attorney after 5:00pm after facing four hours of questioning under oath and made no comment.

"It's an ongoing investigation. There's nothing to hide. Nothing to do. It's part of what the State Attorney's Office does," attorney Brad Conway said. "There's nothing about this case for George and Cindy or Lee, there's nothing easy about it for anybody."

The deposition is not public unless one of the parties asks for a transcript. Then the transcript would be a public record.

[http://www.wftv.com/news/20205386/detail.html]

___________________________

Hope one of the parties asks for a transcript so we have access to it too!!!

Wouldn't you like to be a fly on that wall!!!!!!!!!!! I would IMO

[lorettalockhorn]

For a few years we went to Macon to see the Braves farm team play. The team was in my home town for several years, most of the Braves team that won the world series played in my home town at one time or the other. When we traveled to Macon, we went down the Antebellem Trail. Some of the most beautiful places I have ever seen.

Thanks deac, I'll make a mental note in case we're ever over that way. I've seen some gardens on GD/HDTV that literally made me cry. I can imagine seeing them in person. :eek:

[lorettalockhorn]

What a hoot! One of the videos from WFTV says Jose is nicknamed "Juannie Cochran" after Johnnie Cochran who tried OJ. He got Henry Lee, Linda KB, Andrea Lyons and his lead investigator (+ ?) who all worked on OJ's case! Could this spell trouble? :confused: :eek:

[http://www.wftv.com/video/20204770/index.html]

LMAO@Juannie Cochran. No, it doesn't spell trouble for Casey. OJ would have been convicted if LAPD hadn't tried to frame him for a crime he did commit. It wasn't necessarily the defense who got him acquitted. But that's just my curmudgeonly opinion.

[SaraSidle]

Amy, that's kind of how it is here in Arkietown. You can feel a tornado coming, I guess when the barometer drops. We've got a basement but haven't skittered down there yet, although Leroy's been caught down there when a storm blew up. I've always heard a tornado wouldn't just the Arkansas River, but a killer storm sure as heck did 2/5/08. I usually grab my laptop and head for either my bathroom or the master closet because they're both interior rooms.

My bro&SIL are in Wichita and they hate the weather (along with just about everything else).

how is wichita different from Arkansas? We watch the barometer here. We have never gotten a tornado but some decent storms now and then...sara

[BeastofBears]

What a hoot! One of the videos from WFTV says Jose is nicknamed "Juannie Cochran" after Johnnie Cochran who tried OJ. He got Henry Lee, Linda KB, Andrea Lyons, Todd Macaluso and his lead investigator who all worked on OJ's case! They're saying he did some research for Cochran and that led to the retaining of those listed above. Could this spell trouble? :confused: :eek:

[http://www.wftv.com/video/20204770/index.html]

I'm gonna vote no. The planets aligned for OJ. Not gonna happen here. imo.

[Wagsy]

LMAO@Juannie Cochran. No, it doesn't spell trouble for Casey. OJ would have been convicted if LAPD hadn't tried to frame him for a crime he did commit. It wasn't necessarily the defense who got him acquitted. But that's just my curmudgeonly opinion.
Didn't follow that trial/fiasco but know just enough about it to know it was quite something! I've read books about it. And, you're entitled to any kind of opine you want to have - it's not illegal!

[SaraSidle]

LMAO@Juannie Cochran. No, it doesn't spell trouble for Casey. OJ would have been convicted if LAPD hadn't tried to frame him for a crime he did commit. It wasn't necessarily the defense who got him acquitted. But that's just my curmudgeonly opinion.

It was all about the glove..............................

[Wagsy]

I'm gonna vote no. The planets aligned for OJ. Not gonna happen here. imo.

I'll take your seasoned opinion and vote 'no' with you! :)

[BeastofBears]

It was all about the glove..............................

That was not a smart moment from Darden. Just so not smart.

Watching Cindy coming into the courthouse, I was looking at her jewelry. Knowing what we know about the duct tape and the heart sticker, could you wear a sparkly red heart pendant? I actually think of the crime scene every time I see one, and I'm not even a relative. I just couldn't wear one ever again but :shrug: to each her own I suppose. At least she was quiet and behaved herself in a decent manner. It is much easier to respect that than the public shenanigans...of course, who knows what happened in the depo. I think it is wftv that is saying it will continue tomorrow.

[Wagsy]

I made the mistake of not trying the links after I posted them on the text posts from WFTV and they give you a page error. I tried the one of the video I posted and found how to correct the mistake. The time for editing the others was past. So sorry! How do I get this corrected? They pertain to Cindy Anthony and her deposition so I know they are posted in the correct thread but need fixing. TIA :o :o :o

[lorettalockhorn]

I made the mistake of not trying the links after I posted them on the text posts from WFTV and they give you a page error. I tried the one of the video I posted and found how to correct the mistake. The time for editing the others was past. So sorry! How do I get this corrected? They pertain to Cindy Anthony and her deposition so I know they are posted in the correct thread but need fixing. TIA :o :o :o

If you go to the Caylee homepage, you'll see that there is a news update thread, it's the #2 sticky.

http://boards.crimelibrary.com/forumdisplay.php?f=496

&

http://boards.crimelibrary.com/showthread.php?t=291264&page=54

[SaraSidle]

That was not a smart moment from Darden. Just so not smart.

Watching Cindy coming into the courthouse, I was looking at her jewelry. Knowing what we know about the duct tape and the heart sticker, could you wear a sparkly red heart pendant? I actually think of the crime scene every time I see one, and I'm not even a relative. I just couldn't wear one ever again but :shrug: to each her own I suppose. At least she was quiet and behaved herself in a decent manner. It is much easier to respect that than the public shenanigans...of course, who knows what happened in the depo. I think it is wftv that is saying it will continue tomorrow.

the only thing that I could credence to is that she is mourning. If it were me I would try to dress down as much as possible not to gain attention. what you said to each her own. IMO

[lorettalockhorn]

That was not a smart moment from Darden. Just so not smart.

Watching Cindy coming into the courthouse, I was looking at her jewelry. Knowing what we know about the duct tape and the heart sticker, could you wear a sparkly red heart pendant? I actually think of the crime scene every time I see one, and I'm not even a relative. I just couldn't wear one ever again but :shrug: to each her own I suppose. At least she was quiet and behaved herself in a decent manner. It is much easier to respect that than the public shenanigans...of course, who knows what happened in the depo. I think it is wftv that is saying it will continue tomorrow.

BoB, when I see hearts I think of Caylee also and it happens pretty often since hearts are one of my fave motifs. But you know, I think of how she cared about Al and comforted him by putting her head on his heart. Maybe she could hear it beating and was equally comforted by him. And it doesn't rattle me so much now as when the news came out.

Not sure I'll ever love my duct tape avatar the same though.

[Wagsy]

If you go to the Caylee homepage, you'll see that there is a news update thread, it's the #2 sticky.

http://boards.crimelibrary.com/forumdisplay.php?f=496

&

http://boards.crimelibrary.com/showthread.php?t=291264&page=54

Thanks Loretta! I went and posted them there and corrected the hyperlink so that when you click on them, they take you right to the page. Is there a way to also correct them in this discussion thread? Again, thanks in advance and many thanks for everyone's patience with me. Still learning!

[BeastofBears]

Thanks Loretta! I went and posted them there and corrected the hyperlink so that when you click on them, they take you right to the page. Is there a way to also correct them in this discussion thread? Again, thanks in advance and many thanks for everyone's patience with me. Still learning!

You could just quote yourself and give the new info. Or if you want to go all out, pm deepwater and ask for a repair.

[Wagsy]

I'll pm deepwater and ask for a repair...OCD coming through! Don't like it that my links don't work like they're supposed to!! Thanks.

And, I've done enough for tonight. See all later!

[lorettalockhorn]

Thanks Loretta! I went and posted them there and corrected the hyperlink so that when you click on them, they take you right to the page. Is there a way to also correct them in this discussion thread? Again, thanks in advance and many thanks for everyone's patience with me. Still learning!

Thanks so much for adding those to the record. If your edit ability has timed out, you can quote your own post and make the corrections. Don't worry though, most of us read every single post.

[BeastofBears]

I'll pm deepwater and ask for a repair...OCD coming through! Don't like it that my links don't work like they're supposed to!! Thanks.

And, I've done enough for tonight. See all later!

:seeya: g'night Wags...and if you are afflicted with OCD, you are in the right place, lol!

[lorettalockhorn]

I'll pm deepwater and ask for a repair...OCD coming through! Don't like it that my links don't work like they're supposed to!! Thanks.

And, I've done enough for tonight. See all later!

LMAO None of that around here. Nope. Not one bit. No siree bub. :hat:

[SaraSidle]

LMAO None of that around here. Nope. Not one bit. No siree bub. :hat:

maybe not for youuuuuuuu. I am going to sleep also. spent the day and the docs and I am whipped. Have a good sleep......I know I will.....sara

[DrewBerry]

ANTHONYS HAND OVER DOCUMENTS

George and Cindy Anthony were able to get out of a court hearing Friday by handing over documents about their daughter, Casey Anthony. The State Attorney's Office plans to use the documents in Casey's murder trial.

George and Cindy Anthony were ordered to be in court Friday afternoon, but their attorney, Brad Conway, managed to put the brakes on that just before the hearing.

"Everything is done. Everything is settled," Conway said Friday morning.

BRAD CONWAY: Before, After Meeting With Judge
VIDEO REPORT: Hearing Cancelled, Documents Turned Over

Judge Stan Strickland had scheduled the hearing for 1:30pm. Judge Strickland wanted to know why he shouldn't hold the Anthonys in contempt of court because the State Attorney's Office requested information stored on the family's computer earlier this month, but it was never turned over.

Friday morning, Conway hand-delivered what could be evidence in the case against Casey.

"Why is it taking so long for these documents to be turned over the attorney's office?" WFTV reporter Mark Boyle asked.

"There's not an issue there. Just sometimes it takes time to get things together," Conway replied.

However, Conway blamed the Anthonys' broken computer.

"Whose computer were the documents stored on?" Boyle asked.

"Mark, I'm not going to comment on that right now," Conway replied.

Conway would not give any details about what was in the documents. The public will not find out what's in them until the prosecution makes it part of the public record.

Meanwhile, Casey Anthony remains behind bars at the Orange County jail charged with killing her daughter, Caylee Marie Anthony. Casey Anthony's trial date was originally set for October, but it was recently rescheduled for January 21.

http://www.wftv.com/news/20205386/detail.html

Hi Wagsy! Thanks for keeping up with things and providing link and updates!
I get home so late from work, I'm constantly playing catch-up. I always feel way behind because I'm a north-westie in Seattle. Just when I'm getting started, you all are getting ready for bed! It is folks like you that make it easy for me to get on page with everyone else. Thanks, muchly! :seeya:
Drew

[DrewBerry]

I've never been to Loretta territory either. Shame on me, shame shame:punch:

It seems they don't solicit their wares around here. What sa mattah? You don't like tourists? Do you live near the Clinton's? :chicken: I do like the bad boy though. Actually, I admire his life story. He made the American dream come alive again.

What board am I on? I smell the A's.. uh oh!

Hello friend. I, too, like that bad boy, Billy. His life story is quite fascinating. Let's plan a trip and make Loretta play tour guide!
Good to see ya. :seeya:
Drew

[lorettalockhorn]

maybe not for youuuuuuuu. I am going to sleep also. spent the day and the docs and I am whipped. Have a good sleep......I know I will.....sara

Punted on my doc today, so don't have to go until Thursday. I'd give you details but you'd prolly want to flush me down the pipes. tehee Sleep well and take care!

Nope I'm not OCD. That's why nothing in my house is alphabetized and I can't find things in the freezers blindfolded. hmmm I'd crash too, but not sure if Leroy's shoes are lined up perfectly in the closet or his ties color co-ordinated on the go-around thingies. :tongue:

[Amy]

Thanks for the link! Sounds like Cindy kept her trap shut today. (Well, we don't actually know if she chewed her cud or not.)

Just think about how much turmoil could have been avoided if she had acted this way the whole time.

Looks like everyone was all dressed up for the occasion except Brad Conway.

[Amy]

Amy, that's kind of how it is here in Arkietown. You can feel a tornado coming, I guess when the barometer drops. We've got a basement but haven't skittered down there yet, although Leroy's been caught down there when a storm blew up. I've always heard a tornado wouldn't just the Arkansas River, but a killer storm sure as heck did 2/5/08. I usually grab my laptop and head for either my bathroom or the master closet because they're both interior rooms.

My bro&SIL are in Wichita and they hate the weather (along with just about everything else).

I wouldn't live there for all the tea in China. All the weather that misses us hits just east of us and into central KS. We're along the Arkansas, too. Guess the big one here was '68. I wasn't here yet, ;)

[lorettalockhorn]

Hello friend. I, too, like that bad boy, Billy. His life story is quite fascinating. Let's plan a trip and make Loretta play tour guide!
Good to see ya. :seeya:
Drew

You know, we dropped in on the Clinton Museum at the MoPac depot in Hope on our way back from my aunt's burial service and it's really nice. But I have to warn you, there is a lifesized display of Hill in the ladies' room. :eek:

http://i25.tinypic.com/o0aqvn.jpg

[DrewBerry]

I'm gonna vote no. The planets aligned for OJ. Not gonna happen here. imo.

Jose Bozo is no Johnnie Cochran. Not even close. Cochran was brilliant. Bozo is floundering. He's totally out of his league. His so called "dream team" are there because the case is very high profile. They keep themselves in the media.
Bozo is over his head. He can call in all the renowned experts he wants but this case is a slam dunk. JMO, of course.
DrewB

[Amy]

What a hoot! One of the videos from WFTV says Jose is nicknamed "Juannie Cochran" after Johnnie Cochran who tried OJ. He got Henry Lee, Linda KB, Andrea Lyons, Todd Macaluso and his lead investigator who all worked on OJ's case! They're saying he did some research for Cochran and that led to the retaining of those listed above. Could this spell trouble? :confused: :eek:

http://www.wftv.com/video/20204770/index.html

Jose is no Johnny Cochran, IMO!!!! Of course, I didn't follow the OJ case, so don't know if Cochran made ridiculous statements for all the world to hear like Mark Geragos and Jose have. And the famous fellow representing Mary Winkler. Johnny and the Winkler attorney must have done better--their clients got off!!!! So far MG and JB seem to be coming up goose eggs.

[DrewBerry]

You know, we dropped in on the Clinton Museum at the MoPac depot in Hope on our way back from my aunt's burial service and it's really nice. But I have to warn you, there is a lifesized display of Hill in the ladies' room. :eek:

http://i25.tinypic.com/o0aqvn.jpg


LMAO Loretta. Was there audio of her singing and swaying? What a pic! Poor, Hill, she can't carry a tune! :D
DrewB

[BeastofBears]

Just think about how much turmoil could have been avoided if she had acted this way the whole time.

Looks like everyone was all dressed up for the occasion except Brad Conway.

ITA. Act respectful and get respect.

[BeastofBears]

You know, we dropped in on the Clinton Museum at the MoPac depot in Hope on our way back from my aunt's burial service and it's really nice. But I have to warn you, there is a lifesized display of Hill in the ladies' room. :eek:

http://i25.tinypic.com/o0aqvn.jpg

Doing....what?

[lorettalockhorn]

Just think about how much turmoil could have been avoided if she had acted this way the whole time.

Looks like everyone was all dressed up for the occasion except Brad Conway.

Apparently decorum is a steep learning curve for Cindy. And almost strange not to see George pushing Brad's wheelchair. Wonder if he got a new job. (Literally. I read a while back that he was applying for a new job outside of pushing Conway around.)

I wouldn't live there for all the tea in China. All the weather that misses us hits just east of us and into central KS. We're along the Arkansas, too. Guess the big one here was '68. I wasn't here yet, ;)

Glad you missed The Big One! We have wind all the time at Brooster Place (long story why we named our 2+ acre "estate" that) and when there's a storm it's amazing to see trees bending over at a 45 degree angle. We get lots of lightning strikes, windfall, etc.

[lorettalockhorn]

Doing....what?

Just LQQKING :eek: I tell you! :eek:

[BeastofBears]

LMAO Loretta. Was there audio of her singing and swaying? What a pic! Poor, Hill, she can't carry a tune! :D
DrewB

Or.. "I ain't by no means tarred!" Yeah, accents, not a forte either...:D

[DrewBerry]

Jose is no Johnny Cochran, IMO!!!! Of course, I didn't follow the OJ case, so don't know if Cochran made ridiculous statements for all the world to hear like Mark Geragos and Jose have. And the famous fellow representing Mary Winkler. Johnny and the Winkler attorney must have done better--their clients got off!!!! So far MG and JB seem to be coming up goose eggs.

ITA with ya, Amy. We must have been thinking and typing at the same time!
Hope the Liar enjoys her goose eggs sunny-side up cuz that's all she'll be served by Mr. Bozo!! ;)
DrewB

[DrewBerry]

Or.. "I ain't by no means tarred!" Yeah, accents, not a forte either...:D

Good one, BoB! I remember her efforts to force that drawl to "connect" but it was soooooo transparent, wasn't it!:rolleyes:
DrewB

[lorettalockhorn]

Jose Bozo is no Johnnie Cochran. Not even close. Cochran was brilliant. Bozo is floundering. He's totally out of his league. His so called "dream team" are there because the case is very high profile. They keep themselves in the media.
Bozo is over his head. He can call in all the renowned experts he wants but this case is a slam dunk. JMO, of course.
DrewB

Don't forget that Baez doesn't just have a dream team, he has all the power and knowledge of The FIRM behind him.

http://i41.tinypic.com/23kcku0.jpg

[Nawny]

LMAO@Juannie Cochran. No, it doesn't spell trouble for Casey. OJ would have been convicted if LAPD hadn't tried to frame him for a crime he did commit. It wasn't necessarily the defense who got him acquitted. But that's just my curmudgeonly opinion.

:beer: Ditto!

[Nawny]

Thanks for the link! Sounds like Cindy kept her trap shut today. (Well, we don't actually know if she chewed her cud or not.)

Maybe she was sent to charm school? Looks like she got a tummy tuck and a face lift too! Look out Beth Holloway! She hit the lottery? She sold Caylee's baby pics?

I'm bad:punch:

[lorettalockhorn]

Don't forget that Baez doesn't just have a dream team, he has all the power and knowledge of The FIRM behind him.

http://i41.tinypic.com/23kcku0.jpg

Just realized how ridic it is to have the words " firm behind" in a sentence having to do with Casey Anthony. That's something she'll nevah see again.

http://i41.tinypic.com/23kcku0.jpg

[lorettalockhorn]

[/B]

:beer: Ditto!Maybe she was sent to charm school? Looks like she got a tummy tuck and a face lift too! Look out Beth Holloway! She hit the lottery? She sold Caylee's baby pics?

I'm bad:punch:

Good to see you! We're never on at the same time. Okay see, I was thinking that she looked pretty hagged out and big in back, but had new sunglasses. Oopsie! There's not telling what of Caylee's she has sold. OR who may have bought it. :(

[Nawny]

Watched the video clip you posted; I had only read the print. Was this "strategic strategy" to outsmart the media that was there and have them running all over and not getting answers to any questions? Or, maybe she feels she doesn't need his 'protection' ~ she can do it all by herself! :shrug: But that's gotten her into a lot of trouble in the past!!! :no:

Well we all know that best defense is offense, but she's out of options. She must have resigned to her daughter's guilt! Or am I being the quinsentential dreamer again? Well I never was famous for logic. By the look on her rotten grinch face, she's read our posts.

Hey Grinch! Nowhere to run, no where to hide, you son of a .. :cuss: Lord forgive me, I dispise that woman.

[DrewBerry]

Just realized how ridic it is to have the words " firm behind" in a sentence having to do with Casey Anthony. That's something she'll nevah see again.

http://i41.tinypic.com/23kcku0.jpg

HA HA HA! You are spot on tonight, my dear! :beer::beer::beer:

DrewB

[DrewBerry]

Good to see you! We're never on at the same time. Okay see, I was thinking that she looked pretty hagged out and big in back, but had new sunglasses. Oopsie! There's not telling what of Caylee's she has sold. OR who may have bought it. :(

Perhaps they finally sold that damn boat or maybe Georgie got lucky at the casino!

I thought Nawny's charm school comment was hilarious, as usual. Wassup Nawn?

OT: 100 today in Seattle. Tomorrow, 101 and then we'll be back to 90's.
This is unheard of out here. Just not prepared for this heat. I just took my second cold shower since getting home from work. :shrug:

[Nawny]

You know, we dropped in on the Clinton Museum at the MoPac depot in Hope on our way back from my aunt's burial service and it's really nice. But I have to warn you, there is a lifesized display of Hill in the ladies' room. :eek:

http://i25.tinypic.com/o0aqvn.jpg

Jaysus have Mercy!!! She looks stoned!


I never liked her. She's an insult to womanhood! She shook the hand that wiped the ass of Abraham.

And that's IMO after only one drink.

I'm a light weight. ;)

[beemer]

You know, we dropped in on the Clinton Museum at the MoPac depot in Hope on our way back from my aunt's burial service and it's really nice. But I have to warn you, there is a lifesized display of Hill in the ladies' room. :eek:

http://i25.tinypic.com/o0aqvn.jpg

Haaa I hope Hillary is standing-not sitting LOL Yes for any of ya's who have not been to Arkie ya must go. It is beautiful. I have been north of Little Rock part of the state and the folks are just the nicest :beer:

[Nawny]

Apparently decorum is a steep learning curve for Cindy. And almost strange not to see George pushing Brad's wheelchair. Wonder if he got a new job. (Literally. I read a while back that he was applying for a new job outside of pushing Conway around.)



Glad you missed The Big One! We have wind all the time at Brooster Place (long story why we named our 2+ acre "estate" that) and when there's a storm it's amazing to see trees bending over at a 45 degree angle. We get lots of lightning strikes, windfall, etc.

We haven't had a bad one since hurricane Carol in 1954. Lost many homes on the Narraganset shores. But we still run out of milk and bread in the markets every time there's a hurricane threat. Poppa Was 14 years old and I was 4. He still battens down the hatches and I laugh at him. He :cuss: hollers, YOU DON'T realize what can happen. Hell I say, this house made it thru the Civil war, WW1, WW2 and you're concerned? Poppa worries to much.

[Nawny]

Jose Bozo is no Johnnie Cochran. Not even close. Cochran was brilliant. Bozo is floundering. He's totally out of his league. His so called "dream team" are there because the case is very high profile. They keep themselves in the media.
Bozo is over his head. He can call in all the renowned experts he wants but this case is a slam dunk. JMO, of course.
DrewB

hi Drew baby! How's the heat thing going on? I hope you found a comfort zone way out there is Washington!

Slam dunk, you got that right! I hope Beaz is planning the funeral for his career. He's been vexed by the wench!

[Amy]

You know, we dropped in on the Clinton Museum at the MoPac depot in Hope on our way back from my aunt's burial service and it's really nice. But I have to warn you, there is a lifesized display of Hill in the ladies' room. :eek:

http://i25.tinypic.com/o0aqvn.jpg

I was watching something about presidents the other night. There was a pic of when Slick Willy won the nomination. "Hil" was doing some motion about like this, acting pretty much like a high school cheerleader. Then she and the VP's wife, Tippary? were hugging and doing the side to side thing like Hil is in this pic. I felt embarrassed for them.

[lorettalockhorn]

Haaa I hope Hillary is standing-not sitting LOL Yes for any of ya's who have not been to Arkie ya must go. It is beautiful. I have been north of Little Rock part of the state and the folks are just the nicest :beer:

Now see, that's my (red)neck of the woods!

[lorettalockhorn]

I was watching something about presidents the other night. There was a pic of when Slick Willy won the nomination. "Hil" was doing some motion about like this, acting pretty much like a high school cheerleader. Then she and the VP's wife, Tippary? were hugging and doing the side to side thing like Hil is in this pic. I felt embarrassed for them.

What I remember about Tipper on convention night was that kiss.

http://i31.tinypic.com/2v8lcoh.jpg

[beemer]

Well your sure in the right part loretta:beer: Gawd yes that kiss-what a trip down memory lane. Oh yes now i remember parts of their bus road trip when campaigning. I guess what i really remember is -I never had sexual relations with that woman-or words to that effect :D

[beemer]

Did Zanny kidnap Cindy I ask? Who is this woman we now see that does not utter a word? Where is Cindy and what have they done with her :shrug:

[beemer]

Nite all :seeya:

[DrewBerry]

hi Drew baby! How's the heat thing going on? I hope you found a comfort zone way out there is Washington!

Slam dunk, you got that right! I hope Beaz is planning the funeral for his career. He's been vexed by the wench!

Well, Nawn. What's new in your neck of the woods? I know you've probably gone to bed by now cuz it's 12:05 AM here. Sleep is impossible even with my deluxe fans going in my bedrm. However, I'm content sitting in front of my puter, sipping on ice water and entertaining myself until it cools down a little more. Of course, the weather is the talk of Seattle right now. Everybody's cranky, lots of road rage, short fuses. I've gone thru a box of popsicles tonight! That was my dinner! We don't get the wild storms, floods, tornadoes, or hurricanes but I've lived through some horriific earthquakes here and then Mt. St. Helens blew back in 1980. Can't ever prepare for earthquakes.

I'll be interested to see how long the Grinch can keep her mouth shut and her rage in check. Kinda hoping she'd stay true to form so we could rake her over the coals on the boards. You're not alone. I despise that woman too.
Hope we get some more news soon.
See ya soon! :seeya:
DrewB

[deacon]

We haven't had a bad one since hurricane Carol in 1954. Lost many homes on the Narraganset shores. But we still run out of milk and bread in the markets every time there's a hurricane threat. Poppa Was 14 years old and I was 4. He still battens down the hatches and I laugh at him. He :cuss: hollers, YOU DON'T realize what can happen. Hell I say, this house made it thru the Civil war, WW1, WW2 and you're concerned? Poppa worries to much.

There was a large old house here that made it throught WWI and II and Hugo but about three weeks after Hugo we had another bad rain storm and a little wind and a giant oak tree (the only one left in that yard after Hugo, none of which hit the house) fell right smack dab in the middle of the house and ruined it. It had to be torn completely down. That was sad.

[deacon]

Did Zanny kidnap Cindy I ask? Who is this woman we now see that does not utter a word? Where is Cindy and what have they done with her :shrug:

she hired MJ's Dr. and now she is mellow.:beer:

[Gatordog]

So here's the raw footage of the arrivals with Kathi Belich. http://www.wftv.com/video/20204770/index.html

Is it odd that Conway didn't arrive with Cindy? Was this a surprise deposition? And what was Baez doing there if it is the state doing the deposition? Is that normal?

Could this be related to the document issue on Friday?

It was reported this morning that it was a Defense Deposition. Baez requested it, and it lasted four hours. Knowing Baez that must mean he asked four questions. ;) The transcript is sealed unless the State requests a copy and then it is available to the public too. Ask! Ask!

Gator

[Gatordog]

Did Zanny kidnap Cindy I ask? Who is this woman we now see that does not utter a word? Where is Cindy and what have they done with her :shrug:

Maybe someone sneaked some super glue on her gum! :D

Gator

[Gatordog]

Maybe she was sent to charm school? Looks like she got a tummy tuck and a face lift too! Look out Beth Holloway! She hit the lottery? She sold Caylee's baby pics?

I'm bad:punch:

I met her back in October/November and she is an attractive woman and had a nice figure. She's on the small side, looks much younger than her age - until she opens that nasty trap and gets the "stink eye" going. Then she's just plain ugly.

gator

[Gatordog]

We haven't had a bad one since hurricane Carol in 1954. Lost many homes on the Narraganset shores. But we still run out of milk and bread in the markets every time there's a hurricane threat. Poppa Was 14 years old and I was 4. He still battens down the hatches and I laugh at him. He :cuss: hollers, YOU DON'T realize what can happen. Hell I say, this house made it thru the Civil war, WW1, WW2 and you're concerned? Poppa worries to much.

Poppa is right, better safe than sorry. Never really had a concern until Charley roared in from the West Coast of Florida. Thank the Lord it was fast, about 30 minutes of actual hurricane. Uh Oh, off topic will continue in our coffee break room.

Gator

[BeastofBears]

So, Cindy's back in: http://www.cfnews13.com/MediaPlayer2/MediaPlayer.htm?video=cindyarrival_072920090943&cat=CAC&title=Cindy

for those sans mediaplayer, today she arrived pushing Conway's wheelchair, with him nervously keeping his hands on the wheels (I don't think he really likes to be pushed, imo). BC said it would be a long day, it would be all day, and did not comment when asked if George was this afternoon. No smiles from either CA or BC.

[Amy]

It was reported this morning that it was a Defense Deposition. Baez requested it, and it lasted four hours. Knowing Baez that must mean he asked four questions. ;) The transcript is sealed unless the State requests a copy and then it is available to the public too. Ask! Ask!

Gator

Naughty Jose. Kathi was asking him what information he was looking for in the deposition (paraphrased) and he says, nope, this is a state deposition, he didn't have anything to do with it. :no:

[Amy]

It was reported this morning that it was a Defense Deposition. Baez requested it, and it lasted four hours. Knowing Baez that must mean he asked four questions. ;) The transcript is sealed unless the State requests a copy and then it is available to the public too. Ask! Ask!

Gator

I wonder who has the info that it was requested by Baez? And who they got that info from? The titles on the videos still say "State deposition" as does the article that says Day 2 of the State deposition.

Would the state run a deposition @ the request of the defense? I don't know how things work, but this doesn't sound logical...Color me confused.

[lorettalockhorn]

I wonder who has the info that it was requested by Baez? And who they got that info from? The titles on the videos still say "State deposition" as does the article that says Day 2 of the State deposition.

Would the state run a deposition @ the request of the defense? I don't know how things work, but this doesn't sound logical...Color me confused.

I'm with you, it doesn't make sense that Baez is in on a prosecution deposition. Looks to me like he would receive any information in discovery. If both sides are participating, there is no need for anyone to request a transcript unless their notetaking ability sucks, they would just wait for the Q&A to become part of the case.

And if Baez forgets anything, he can always ask Cindy who has the memory of an elephant. Except for Zanny's address and phone number.

[Gatordog]

It was reported this morning that it was a Defense Deposition. Baez requested it, and it lasted four hours. Knowing Baez that must mean he asked four questions. ;) The transcript is sealed unless the State requests a copy and then it is available to the public too. Ask! Ask!

Gator

It was the state who did the questioning. They got it wrong this morning. Baez was there to listen I guess. Cindy walked out all smiles. :shrug:

My dog died six weeks ago, I still cry everyday and if I talk about him I cry. How can she be grinning and smiling after giving a deposition regarding a murdered grandchild???? :flamemad:

Gator

[Gatordog]

Naughty Jose. Kathi was asking him what information he was looking for in the deposition (paraphrased) and he says, nope, this is a state deposition, he didn't have anything to do with it. :no:

The news anchor was still reporting it as a State deposition. Obviously, they didn't watch their own tape and they didn't show it on the news either. They only showed him walking. I guess that's why they said they had the unedited version on line. They should have watched it themselves.

[beemer]

she hired MJ's Dr. and now she is mellow.:beer:

Thats what it is-she is sedated :confused: It aint normal i tell ya if C is acting normal :shrug:

[beemer]

It was the state who did the questioning. They got it wrong this morning. Baez was there to listen I guess. Cindy walked out all smiles. :shrug:

My dog died six weeks ago, I still cry everyday and if I talk about him I cry. How can she be grinning and smiling after giving a deposition regarding a murdered grandchild???? :flamemad:

Gator

She (C) must be feeling like she pulled one over on them with her fine verbal skills. Now that will be a great read:D Thats cuz you gotta a heart gator-sorry it is still hurting sweetie. Time. I know u know that. I figure thats what Liars fascination with hearts is/was. Trying to figure out how life would be if she had one. For gator:rose: Maybe he is up there frollicking with Caylee-thats a nice thought:rose: O/T shoes arrived-luv luv em. True to fit and comfy. Thanks for those great sites-under my faves:seeya:

[lorettalockhorn]

It was the state who did the questioning. They got it wrong this morning. Baez was there to listen I guess. Cindy walked out all smiles. :shrug:

My dog died six weeks ago, I still cry everyday and if I talk about him I cry. How can she be grinning and smiling after giving a deposition regarding a murdered grandchild???? :flamemad:

Gator

So sorry about your pup, it's so tough to love a loving companion.

Like the Grinch, Cindy's heart seems to be an empty hole. Wouldn't want to be in her shoes for million$, but how she can live with herself and not stand up for Caylee is beyond me. Maybe today was different. Maybe she felt secure that her testimony wouldn't leak until the trial.

[BeastofBears]

Apparently there is a document dump on the way, maybe tomorrow: http://www.wesh.com/news/20213713/detail.html

[lorettalockhorn]

Apparently there is a document dump on the way, maybe tomorrow: http://www.wesh.com/news/20213713/detail.html

Thanks BoB! This must be the docs that never made it to light from a while back. We need some meat and potatoes here.

[Gatordog]

Depos are continuing today. Cindy is back and it's also Georgie Porgie's turn. Wonder if he's going to accuse the Prosecutor of giving him the finger too. ;)

Do you think they are telling the State what questions they can ask of them and which questions they feel like answering. Oh, and let's not forget to not call the bones "remains".

http://cfnews13.com/News/Local/2009/7/29/george_anthony_to_be_deposed_today.html

http://www.wftv.com/news/20214175/detail.html

[BeastofBears]

Thanks BoB! This must be the docs that never made it to light from a while back. We need some meat and potatoes here.

Frankly, I'm not too optimistic...those last ones have been pathetic. But maybe all the good tuff will turn up in this one! To a fascinating doc dump :beer:

[BeastofBears]

Cindy's seems to be taking a long time. I guess GA will just be there for the...remains of the day...

[Gatordog]

New York Ships Homeless Families To Florida
Posted: 7:50 am EDT July 29, 2009

ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. -- Homeless New Yorkers are being shipped to other states, including Florida. That is because the city is buying one way plane tickets for homeless families.

It is part of a program to keep the homeless out of the city's expensive shelter system, which costs $36,000 each year per family.

The families can go anywhere they want if a family member agrees to take them in. They are mostly sent to Florida, Georgia and the Carolinas.
Copyright 2009 by wftv.com
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Someone wrote the comment - Great, before they leave the airport, sign them up to vote. That way they can be on the Casey Anthony jury! :D

It's good to keep a sense of humor after reading this sh*t. You aware of that Deacon....they are coming your way.

[beemer]

New York Ships Homeless Families To Florida
Posted: 7:50 am EDT July 29, 2009

ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. -- Homeless New Yorkers are being shipped to other states, including Florida. That is because the city is buying one way plane tickets for homeless families.

It is part of a program to keep the homeless out of the city's expensive shelter system, which costs $36,000 each year per family.

The families can go anywhere they want if a family member agrees to take them in. They are mostly sent to Florida, Georgia and the Carolinas.
Copyright 2009 by wftv.com
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Someone wrote the comment - Great, before they leave the airport, sign them up to vote. That way they can be on the Casey Anthony jury! :D

It's good to keep a sense of humor after reading this sh*t. You aware of that Deacon....they are coming your way.
Oh gawd now what asshat came up with that pass the buck solution? remind me of this next time i complain bout the cold and snow:eek:

[beemer]

Frankly, I'm not too optimistic...those last ones have been pathetic. But maybe all the good tuff will turn up in this one! To a fascinating doc dump :beer:

Here's hoping:beer: C is prolly taking so long cuz..... well we all know why:eek:

[BeastofBears]

New York Ships Homeless Families To Florida
Posted: 7:50 am EDT July 29, 2009

ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. -- Homeless New Yorkers are being shipped to other states, including Florida. That is because the city is buying one way plane tickets for homeless families.

It is part of a program to keep the homeless out of the city's expensive shelter system, which costs $36,000 each year per family.

The families can go anywhere they want if a family member agrees to take them in. They are mostly sent to Florida, Georgia and the Carolinas.
Copyright 2009 by wftv.com
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Someone wrote the comment - Great, before they leave the airport, sign them up to vote. That way they can be on the Casey Anthony jury! :D

It's good to keep a sense of humor after reading this sh*t. You aware of that Deacon....they are coming your way.

I remember years ago we tried this in SF...except they were specifically one-way tickets to Florida. The mayor said the homeless would be happier there because it was warmer! Manure+fan=it stopped.

[BeastofBears]

Here's hoping:beer: C is prolly taking so long cuz..... well we all know why:eek:

I wonder who's being a derriere on the object this time?

[DrewBerry]

Depos are continuing today. Cindy is back and it's also Georgie Porgie's turn. Wonder if he's going to accuse the Prosecutor of giving him the finger too. ;)

Do you think they are telling the State what questions they can ask of them and which questions they feel like answering. Oh, and let's not forget to not call the bones "remains".

http://cfnews13.com/News/Local/2009/7/29/george_anthony_to_be_deposed_today.html

http://www.wftv.com/news/20214175/detail.html

Hi Gator! Thanks for the updates. I'm at working and checking in so your posts are most appreciated.

I'm giving Georgie the finger right now!! Ha!:no:

DrewB

[lorettalockhorn]

Cindy's seems to be taking a long time. I guess GA will just be there for the...remains of the day...

:eek:

All he has to do is divulge his body of knowledge.

[lorettalockhorn]

New York Ships Homeless Families To Florida
Posted: 7:50 am EDT July 29, 2009

ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. -- Homeless New Yorkers are being shipped to other states, including Florida. That is because the city is buying one way plane tickets for homeless families.

It is part of a program to keep the homeless out of the city's expensive shelter system, which costs $36,000 each year per family.

The families can go anywhere they want if a family member agrees to take them in. They are mostly sent to Florida, Georgia and the Carolinas.
Copyright 2009 by wftv.com
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Someone wrote the comment - Great, before they leave the airport, sign them up to vote. That way they can be on the Casey Anthony jury! :D

It's good to keep a sense of humor after reading this sh*t. You aware of that Deacon....they are coming your way.

The ministerial alliance in my town buys a one-way bus ticket out of town for any takers who are homeless. Meantime, there is an outfit that puts together food boxes, provides free meals, distributes donated items, and is trying to set up dorms (in FEMA trailers) for homeless singles and families. They're faith based and have voluteers from local churches, but frequently have emergency needs of big bucks. What galls me about all this is that there are two churches (mine being one of them) that have recently built $4 - $5 million dollar expansion projects. We couldn't cut back a little and donate a little heavier to The Mission? Man, I hate it when I get POed at my church.

Okay. I'm off the soapbox.

[lorettalockhorn]

Depos are continuing today. Cindy is back and it's also Georgie Porgie's turn. Wonder if he's going to accuse the Prosecutor of giving him the finger too. ;)

Do you think they are telling the State what questions they can ask of them and which questions they feel like answering. Oh, and let's not forget to not call the bones "remains".

http://cfnews13.com/News/Local/2009/7/29/george_anthony_to_be_deposed_today.html

http://www.wftv.com/news/20214175/detail.html

Thanks for the links! Couldn't hear Cindy's answer to how she is doing, ut it was hard to avoid hearing Baez's disrespect for Morgan and Mitnik's depo by calling the ZFG case frivolous. And everything is cordial and professional. LMAO It was G&C who committed those faux pas at the M&M deposition, not the attorneys.

I've got a naughty finger for the defense faction too!

And Baez should tuck his shirt in. This is not Casual Friday.

[BeastofBears]

Thanks for the links! Couldn't hear Cindy's answer to how she is doing, ut it was hard to avoid hearing Baez's disrespect for Morgan and Mitnik's depo by calling the ZFG case frivolous. And everything is cordial and professional. LMAO It was G&C who committed those faux pas at the M&M deposition, not the attorneys.

I've got a naughty finger for the defense faction too!

And Baez should tuck his shirt in. This is not Casual Friday.

Is that a guayabera? Does Orlando court consider that appropriate clothing for court? Couldn't do it out here, but might be a cultural diff...

eta: I think it is-it looks like there are 4 pockets. Is he trying to emphasize his roots? In any case, he looks schlubby and it doesn't look pressed, imo. And I know, this isn't a fashion show...sorry.

[lorettalockhorn]

Is that a guayabera? Does Orlando court consider that appropriate clothing for court? Couldn't do it out here, but might be a cultural diff...

eta: I think it is-it looks like there are 4 pockets. Is he trying to emphasize his roots? In any case, he looks schlubby and it doesn't look pressed, imo. And I know, this isn't a fashion show...sorry.

Listen, if I was an attorney and the likes of Cindy Anthony showed up in more professional attire than me for an official proceeding, I'd fshoot myself. Chubby people often look like slobs when improperly dressed and it's disrespectful. Bozo proved it today.

[SaraSidle]

what is the white thing hanging off her shirt in the back? anyone know?

[JLette]

what is the white thing hanging off her shirt in the back? anyone know?

my mom has shirts like that, i think its like some kind of built in belt type deal :shrug: i made fun of my mom for wearing shirts like that and she doesn't wear them anymore lol

[Amy]

I'm with you, it doesn't make sense that Baez is in on a prosecution deposition. Looks to me like he would receive any information in discovery. If both sides are participating, there is no need for anyone to request a transcript unless their notetaking ability sucks, they would just wait for the Q&A to become part of the case.

And if Baez forgets anything, he can always ask Cindy who has the memory of an elephant. Except for Zanny's address and phone number.

Well, you know how Baez seems to have trouble getting all that info from prosecution--has to pay for copying and all that. Since it seems there are plenty other lawyers probably doing the real stuff, he can afford to sit in on the depositions and take his own notes, lol. Which reminds me, why did neither he nor Casey's civil attorney ever sit in on the ZFG depos?

You have that right about Cindy, for sure!!! :D

[Amy]

I remember years ago we tried this in SF...except they were specifically one-way tickets to Florida. The mayor said the homeless would be happier there because it was warmer! Manure+fan=it stopped.

Heard on the news today 550 families have taken advantage of the tickets. This report did put the majority as to going to Puerto Rico. It was listed as in the 30's for families going to FL and GA, and now some are going to the Carolinas. The reporter also said there were several other countries they went to, but did not list them. :eek:

[Amy]

Thanks for the links! Couldn't hear Cindy's answer to how she is doing, ut it was hard to avoid hearing Baez's disrespect for Morgan and Mitnik's depo by calling the ZFG case frivolous. And everything is cordial and professional. LMAO It was G&C who committed those faux pas at the M&M deposition, not the attorneys.

I've got a naughty finger for the defense faction too!

And Baez should tuck his shirt in. This is not Casual Friday.

On the second link, under Cindy 7/29, pic #6, Cindy looks like she is having the time of her life!!! I see all three are dressed down today--blue jeans always seems to be a sign of respect to the courts. Yesterday, Cindy and Jose were pretty gussied up, only Brad was wearing jeans.

[Amy]

what is the white thing hanging off her shirt in the back? anyone know?

It looks like a bit of a belt, with one side unbuttoned. Either she didn't check herself in the mirror before she left home, or she thinks she's starting a new fad?

[mu8shark]

Hi Gang, long time no see. I see where States Atty office interviewed Cindy and heard they had access to civil depos. Know what I would be hitting her hard on? Her claim that she had Zanny's phone number and address written down. First of all, she said she did not have those anymore and she thought she had given them to police. Obviously she did not. In all the released documents have any of you seen any info on a number that they researched or an address the police checked out? I haven't. So why would she be so casual and cavalier about the whereabouts of that info? Even if the number was disconnected when I called it, I would get that to police immediately. They could get those phone records and see if Zanny called the airport, a bus station, a cousin in Puerto Rico, etc. As for the address, even if no one was home,think of the possibilities. LE could get a search warrant and check for evidence of all kinds of things. If Zanny was selling babies or gave the baby to a pedophile ring ,maybe there would some kind of paperwork or little scraps of paper with numbers on them or what if there was a computer there, the police could see if Zanny had emailed friends or family asking for a place to lay low. I mean I would have given the police that info immediately and I would be on the phone every day asking, Did you check it out, did you search it, did you get phone records for that number? They would be so sick of me bugging them.But Cindy can't really recall whether she gave it to police , all she knows is she does not have that info anymore. Riiiiight...... . I would use this line of questioning to suggest on the stand that she did not keep that info or investigate it because she did not believe the nanny story from the get go.Or more likely she never even had that info in the first place,because it did not exist. To me that was one of the most damaging claims she made in the civil depo..

[lorettalockhorn]

Hi Gang, long time no see. I see where States Atty office interviewed Cindy and heard they had access to civil depos. Know what I would be hitting her hard on? Her claim that she had Zanny's phone number and address written down. First of all, she said she did not have those anymore and she thought she had given them to police. Obviously she did not. In all the released documents have any of you seen any info on a number that they researched or an address the police checked out? I haven't. So why would she be so casual and cavalier about the whereabouts of that info? Even if the number was disconnected when I called it, I would get that to police immediately. They could get those phone records and see if Zanny called the airport, a bus station, a cousin in Puerto Rico, etc. As for the address, even if no one was home,think of the possibilities. LE could get a search warrant and check for evidence of all kinds of things. If Zanny was selling babies or gave the baby to a pedophile ring ,maybe there would some kind of paperwork or little scraps of paper with numbers on them or what if there was a computer there, the police could see if Zanny had emailed friends or family asking for a place to lay low. I mean I would have given the police that info immediately and I would be on the phone every day asking, Did you check it out, did you search it, did you get phone records for that number? They would be so sick of me bugging them.But Cindy can't really recall whether she gave it to police , all she knows is she does not have that info anymore. Riiiiight...... . I would use this line of questioning to suggest on the stand that she did not keep that info or investigate it because she did not believe the nanny story from the get go.Or more likely she never even had that info in the first place,because it did not exist. To me that was one of the most damaging claims she made in the civil depo..

Hey stranger! :seeya: Hayell yes they had access to the civil case information, just like we did. This is the kind of crapola that Cindy has pulled that should have her slammed with an obstruction charge(s).

[deacon]

Hi Gang, long time no see. I see where States Atty office interviewed Cindy and heard they had access to civil depos. Know what I would be hitting her hard on? Her claim that she had Zanny's phone number and address written down. First of all, she said she did not have those anymore and she thought she had given them to police. Obviously she did not. In all the released documents have any of you seen any info on a number that they researched or an address the police checked out? I haven't. So why would she be so casual and cavalier about the whereabouts of that info? Even if the number was disconnected when I called it, I would get that to police immediately. They could get those phone records and see if Zanny called the airport, a bus station, a cousin in Puerto Rico, etc. As for the address, even if no one was home,think of the possibilities. LE could get a search warrant and check for evidence of all kinds of things. If Zanny was selling babies or gave the baby to a pedophile ring ,maybe there would some kind of paperwork or little scraps of paper with numbers on them or what if there was a computer there, the police could see if Zanny had emailed friends or family asking for a place to lay low. I mean I would have given the police that info immediately and I would be on the phone every day asking, Did you check it out, did you search it, did you get phone records for that number? They would be so sick of me bugging them.But Cindy can't really recall whether she gave it to police , all she knows is she does not have that info anymore. Riiiiight...... . I would use this line of questioning to suggest on the stand that she did not keep that info or investigate it because she did not believe the nanny story from the get go.Or more likely she never even had that info in the first place,because it did not exist. To me that was one of the most damaging claims she made in the civil depo..

That one will come back to haunt her at trial. I feel this was a hunting expedition. The next time will be much more pointed, IMO

[mu8shark]

Hey stranger! :seeya: Hayell yes they had access to the civil case information, just like we did. This is the kind of crapola that Cindy has pulled that should have her slammed with an obstruction charge(s). Boy that is a good point, if she did not pass that info along, why not? I think it constitutes obstruction because you know LE ask if she had a way to contact Zanny and if she said no and then all of a sudden in the civil depo she asserts she had that info and did not give it to them..... bad news. At the very least it almost looks like she was covering up something.

[deacon]

Boy that is a good point, if she did not pass that info along, why not? I think it constitutes obstruction because you know LE ask if she had a way to contact Zanny and if she said no and then all of a sudden in the civil depo she asserts she had that info and did not give it to them..... bad news. At the very least it almost looks like she was covering up something.

Yep her manipulation attempts could be obstruction. She really is trying to manipulate every thing to make her family look good. Only problem is when you do that to the truth it ends up a lie.

[BeastofBears]

Listen, if I was an attorney and the likes of Cindy Anthony showed up in more professional attire than me for an official proceeding, I'd fshoot myself. Chubby people often look like slobs when improperly dressed and it's disrespectful. Bozo proved it today.

Yes, the bar is low there! (wow, that sentence can be taken on so many levels!)

And, *sigh*, this is why I try to get my dh to let me dress him, but no go. :cuss:

[beemer]

Hey Mu glad your back :seeya:

[JLette]

Yep her manipulation attempts could be obstruction. She really is trying to manipulate every thing to make her family look good. Only problem is when you do that to the truth it ends up a lie.

IMO i would skip right on past obstruction and right into perjury! she LIED under OATH did she not? why the FUDGE is she not sitting in jail for that?

[deacon]

IMO i would skip right on past obstruction and right into perjury! she LIED under OATH did she not? why the FUDGE is she not sitting in jail for that?

IIRC it was said that it was because they lost their granddaughter. Not that i agree with that but that was what I remember. Now that could have been a TH from way back.

[SaraSidle]

Hey Mu glad your back :seeya:

Me too. you have been missed. sara

[lorettalockhorn]

IMO i would skip right on past obstruction and right into perjury! she LIED under OATH did she not? why the FUDGE is she not sitting in jail for that?

Maybe Zanny's personal information that Cindy blabbed about in the civil deposition is in part what is being questioned here. I'm thinking that the prosecution is also very interested in what/why D Casey and Hoover were so near the scene of Caylee's remains. Cannot imagine that Cindy being the victim's grandmother should give her a pass on obstruction and/or perjury charges. Especially in light of the fact that G&C are turning their back on the victim and are perjuring themselves for the likes of a murderess.

I think I understand to some degree what they are trying to do, and that is to take a stand for the presumption of innocence, but there has to be a way to honor Caylee and the pursuit of justice and still offer Casey support. And the simple path to accomplish that is to tell the ftruth.

[mu8shark]

Hey to all of you who have welcomed me back.! I changed comps , my Dell was ready to crash so a friend gave me her old one and I mean old, it has Windows 98 which is not compatible with a Flash 10 version which this site takes so posting is slow,slow going so I make sure I post when there is new stuff and have something to comment on but I still read the site a lot and am definitely in for the long haul. ;);)

[SaraSidle]

Hey to all of you who have welcomed me back.! I changed comps , my Dell was ready to crash so a friend gave me her old one and I mean old, it has Windows 98 which is not compatible with a Flash 10 version which this site takes so posting is slow,slow going so I make sure I post when there is new stuff and have something to comment on but I still read the site a lot and am definitely in for the long haul. ;);)

I am glad you are back. Hope you get a better puter soon.:)

[Amy]

Boy that is a good point, if she did not pass that info along, why not? I think it constitutes obstruction because you know LE ask if she had a way to contact Zanny and if she said no and then all of a sudden in the civil depo she asserts she had that info and did not give it to them..... bad news. At the very least it almost looks like she was covering up something.

Welcome back!!!!

[Amy]

IIRC it was said that it was because they lost their granddaughter. Not that i agree with that but that was what I remember. Now that could have been a TH from way back.

Well, IMO, if that is the line of thinking, then Casey should not be sitting in jail, she lost her daughter, after all. :flamemad: Seems if they have commited perjury or obstruction, they should have to take the consequences like everyone else. Wonder if other people get to stay out of jail because of a dead granddaughter, or is it just because this is a high profile case?

[Gatordog]

They did the doc dump this morning. Not all is out yet. This is what I found and it looks like it hadn't been released before.

http://www.clickorlando.com/download/2009/0730/20223432.pdf

[BeastofBears]

They did the doc dump this morning. Not all is out yet. This is what I found and it looks like it hadn't been released before.

http://www.clickorlando.com/download/2009/0730/20223432.pdf

Thank YOU, Gator!

on page 6613...someone sent a Casey voodoo doll to them.

[BeastofBears]

Lee Anthony has been granted immunity: http://www.wftv.com/news/20223813/detail.html

[Gatordog]

August 7th

Cindy said she was putting things away in Casey's bathroom when she saw the hair straightner and remembered that Zanny gave it to Casey. Funny, how just a few days before that during a jailhouse visit, Casey told that to her mother and said - REMEMBER.

I believe Caylee's birthday is August 9th. If one of my mother's grandchildren was missing, I know she would not be doing household chores two days before his or her birthday. She would be in bed, with a cold compress over her eyes and probably some sort of tranquilizer. My mother is a strong woman but she loves her family dearly. Putting away towels would not be high on her priority list.

Gator

[Gatordog]

Thanks for the links! Couldn't hear Cindy's answer to how she is doing, ut it was hard to avoid hearing Baez's disrespect for Morgan and Mitnik's depo by calling the ZFG case frivolous. And everything is cordial and professional. LMAO It was G&C who committed those faux pas at the M&M deposition, not the attorneys.

I've got a naughty finger for the defense faction too!

And Baez should tuck his shirt in. This is not Casual Friday.

Looks like he's wearing a "Guayabera". That's the equal to a shirt, tie and jacket in the Carribbean islands. I guess no one has told him that he is in Orlando and not San Juan. They are even used in place of tuxedoes - on the Islands. I guess he thought he went to court in Puerto Rico.

Gator

[Gatordog]

Lee's deposition is being held today. It was reported that his lawyer said he will answer ALL questions since he has been granted IMMUNITY.

Gator

[Gatordog]

Is that a guayabera? Does Orlando court consider that appropriate clothing for court? Couldn't do it out here, but might be a cultural diff...

eta: I think it is-it looks like there are 4 pockets. Is he trying to emphasize his roots? In any case, he looks schlubby and it doesn't look pressed, imo. And I know, this isn't a fashion show...sorry.

Yes, it's a cultural thing. There are all different types of guayaberas and they are even used in place of a tuxedo. Many men in Puerto Rico wear them to their wedding. Some cost hundreds of dollars. My brother was married in the Philippines and that's what he wore. When my Puerto Rican grandfather died, he was buried wearing one.

They weren't in court today, they were in the State Attorney's office building. I think he wore it as a tactical move to impress the Latin juror prospects. Perhaps he had another interview with Univision or Telemundo which are out of Miami and broadcast in Orlando. He is trying very hard to impress the jury of his choosing.

Gator

[BeastofBears]

So far I'm running into tons of Jesse G.s employment and training records, for all the world to see. Imagine if TES's stuff gets out on all the volunteer searchers. uggh.

[beemer]

For some reason i cant get the link to open:shrug:

[BeastofBears]

For some reason i cant get the link to open:shrug:

Wesh is "liveblogging" it (ooooh, how trendy of them...) and its making it hard to find the links. They have said they are trying to find a way to post them better, so that's probably the problem. Try this: http://livewire.wesh.com/Event/Casey_Anthony_Documents_Released

eta: no, this one! http://www.wesh.com/news/20224026/detail.html

On the liveblog they are "crowd-sourcing", translation, hey we're too lazy to be reporters, so how about you do the job for us? And that results in people claiming that mitochondrial dna was used to id soldiers during WWII. Brainiacs on parade, for sure.

[beemer]

Thanks Bob-it wont open either-good lord. I have to go out in a bit so i will try another link later. I left ya a message on the off topic thread re: TO. When ya have time just an update on city workers strike:seeya:

[Gatordog]

More docs here:

http://www.wftv.com/news/20223813/detail.html

[BeastofBears]

Wesh is "liveblogging" it (ooooh, how trendy of them...) and its making it hard to find the links. They have said they are trying to find a way to post them better, so that's probably the problem. Try this: http://livewire.wesh.com/Event/Casey_Anthony_Documents_Released

eta: no, this one! http://www.wesh.com/news/20224026/detail.html

On the liveblog they are "crowd-sourcing", translation, hey we're too lazy to be reporters, so how about you do the job for us? And that results in people claiming that mitochondrial dna was used to id soldiers during WWII. Brainiacs on parade, for sure.

My "translation" of "crowd-sourcing" is, of course, my opinion of the practice, in case that wasn't clear. I am sure they have a different translation in their newsroom meetings.

[Amy]

Lee Anthony has been granted immunity: http://www.wftv.com/news/20223813/detail.html

Lee and his lawyers are certainly the savvy ones here. Lee has laid low pretty much except the dog and sign thing with the protesters, where he really did look foolish lying about the law--and probably even the dog knew that. And the slobbering on the bracelet episode @ the memorial service. Keep your head down and your mouth shut, and you just might be able to strike a deal about immunity. I notice Luka didn't say the usual--altho he hasn't done anything he would need immunity for. I THINK Luka said that, as well as Brad said it about the A's.

Jose--he does say something fairly intelligent, about letting the state do their thing. He says something rather intelligent, tho, when stating that the media or cameras portrayed the A's in a negative way in the civil depo--uh, Jose, pssst---the cameras only portrayed them as they were. There were no special effects being done. The negative portrayal was only because the A's WERE negative. And obnoxious. And a few other things. :shrug:

[Amy]

Yes, it's a cultural thing. There are all different types of guayaberas and they are even used in place of a tuxedo. Many men in Puerto Rico wear them to their wedding. Some cost hundreds of dollars. My brother was married in the Philippines and that's what he wore. When my Puerto Rican grandfather died, he was buried wearing one.

They weren't in court today, they were in the State Attorney's office building. I think he wore it as a tactical move to impress the Latin juror prospects. Perhaps he had another interview with Univision or Telemundo which are out of Miami and broadcast in Orlando. He is trying very hard to impress the jury of his choosing.

Gator

Maybe he thinks, if he dresses the part, he can get the trial moved to Puerto Rico!!!!:biggrin:

[lorettalockhorn]

Yes, it's a cultural thing. There are all different types of guayaberas and they are even used in place of a tuxedo. Many men in Puerto Rico wear them to their wedding. Some cost hundreds of dollars. My brother was married in the Philippines and that's what he wore. When my Puerto Rican grandfather died, he was buried wearing one.

They weren't in court today, they were in the State Attorney's office building. I think he wore it as a tactical move to impress the Latin juror prospects. Perhaps he had another interview with Univision or Telemundo which are out of Miami and broadcast in Orlando. He is trying very hard to impress the jury of his choosing.

Gator

Sheesh Maybe he should practice law in PR.

Thanks for the links to you and BoB! :seeya:

[Amy]

So far I'm running into tons of Jesse G.s employment and training records, for all the world to see. Imagine if TES's stuff gets out on all the volunteer searchers. uggh.

That was interesting. 600+ pages (and no, I haven't read them all, just a synopsis of sorts) and some relating to the negative evaluation as he was dismissed--on one of the days conjectured to be the date of Caylee's disappearance? And, he didn't handle criticism well, it seems. But, according to the article, for all that the A's are trying to cast blame on him, they HAVE discounted his involvement.

Surely, there isn't going to be any more nonsense about the TES records. It would seem to me the defense would have to have compelling evidence of a reason to request records, and that should be just the records of one person they might suspect of illegal activity, not every record of every volunteer. IMO

[lorettalockhorn]

Lee and his lawyers are certainly the savvy ones here. Lee has laid low pretty much except the dog and sign thing with the protesters, where he really did look foolish lying about the law--and probably even the dog knew that. And the slobbering on the bracelet episode @ the memorial service. Keep your head down and your mouth shut, and you just might be able to strike a deal about immunity. I notice Luka didn't say the usual--altho he hasn't done anything he would need immunity for. I THINK Luka said that, as well as Brad said it about the A's.

Jose--he does say something fairly intelligent, about letting the state do their thing. He says something rather intelligent, tho, when stating that the media or cameras portrayed the A's in a negative way in the civil depo--uh, Jose, pssst---the cameras only portrayed them as they were. There were no special effects being done. The negative portrayal was only because the A's WERE negative. And obnoxious. And a few other things. :shrug:

My sentiments exactly. Baez made himself AAOTT when he made snide comments about the "frivolous" lawsuit. It's not his case, though, so maybe he was expressing a personal opinion rather than a professional one. We never seem to hear anything from the civil attorney whose name escapes me.

[lorettalockhorn]

That was interesting. 600+ pages (and no, I haven't read them all, just a synopsis of sorts) and some relating to the negative evaluation as he was dismissed--on one of the days conjectured to be the date of Caylee's disappearance? And, he didn't handle criticism well, it seems. But, according to the article, for all that the A's are trying to cast blame on him, they HAVE discounted his involvement.

Surely, there isn't going to be any more nonsense about the TES records. It would seem to me the defense would have to have compelling evidence of a reason to request records, and that should be just the records of one person they might suspect of illegal activity, not every record of every volunteer. IMO

Isn't there going to be a hearing on the TES records? It's been a while since they were requested and Miller engaged an attorney. Don't even remember if there has been a motion filed to quash the request.

[Gatordog]

Lee arriving at the State Attorney's Office building.

http://www.wftv.com/slideshow/news/20223899/detail.html

[Gatordog]

JMO, I am amazed that people go out of their way to look like deranged killers who have escaped from a prison for the mentally insane. :shrug:

Gator

[Gatordog]

Maybe he thinks, if he dresses the part, he can get the trial moved to Puerto Rico!!!!:biggrin:

I would love that - especially sine ZFG is supposed to be Puerto Rican. That will go over real big with a jury over there. Maybe we can get my family on the Jury. :)

[lorettalockhorn]

Buy that boy a razor and some Oxy-10! I see that in #9 he's checking his wrist for a hickey.

[Amy]

I would love that - especially sine ZFG is supposed to be Puerto Rican. That will go over real big with a jury over there. Maybe we can get my family on the Jury. :)

I wonder how "understanding" and "empathetic" Puerto Rican mothers and grandmothers would be of a woman who does not report her baby missing for 31 days? I'm betting they would stop the trial right then and there and say "She's guilty!!!!" Or, do Puerto Rican women get to serve on juries?

[Wagsy]

A huge thank you to all for the links posted in the past couple of days. A lot of interesting stuff here. :read:

The video of C pushing BC into court was so funny to me. It's no wonder he kept his hands on the wheels of the chair - from the expression on her face and the speed she was pushing the wc, it looked like she was going to go right through the doors without opening them first in her hurry to get inside without opening her mouth. :tongue: And then, she wasn't aware that one side of her fake belt with buttons was hanging down and here every hair was in place! What a hoot! :D

[Wagsy]

Sheesh Maybe he should practice law in PR.

Thanks for the links to you and BoB! :seeya:


Maybe (we can hope!) that PR will be the only place he CAN practice law after this trial. :biggrin:

[Wagsy]

On page 6608 of the Evidence/Property Forms, on the second line, does it say; "1 brown bag containing: umbilical cord, ... :eek:

http://www.wftv.com/pdf/20224804/detail.html

[Wagsy]

Another question as I'm reading through the doc dump: Lee, Cindy & George refused to submit to a polygraph. Does that mean it is a moot point now since they are doing these depos with the state's attorneys office this week and next? Would this point to more guilt on their part since they didn't do them? If they have nothing to hide, why didn't they just do them in the first place? (I remember yous speculating on these points earlier but wondered if it is critical any more at this stage because of the depos)

[Amy]

On page 6608 of the Evidence/Property Forms, on the second line, does it say; "1 brown bag containing: umbilical cord, ... :eek:

http://www.wftv.com/pdf/20224804/detail.html

Could be. There are parents who want to keep the umbilical cord after it falls off. The first time a parent told me that, my chin almost hit the floor. I was telling my sister about it, and she said that she has kept the umbilical cords from all of her babies. :eek: Her oldest is in her 20's, and as far as I know, she still has them all.

[Wagsy]

Could be. There are parents who want to keep the umbilical cord after it falls off. The first time a parent told me that, my chin almost hit the floor. I was telling my sister about it, and she said that she has kept the umbilical cords from all of her babies. :eek: Her oldest is in her 20's, and as far as I know, she still has them all.

Amy,

I've never heard of this until now. I've heard of saving snips of a boy's first haircut (and even girls'). My mom kept our ponytails from our first haircuts but then our hair was down to the back of our knees and went to bottom of our ears length. She threw them out or else donated them to a wig maker sometime ago. Thanks for the insight on this. To each his own, I guess.

[BeastofBears]

On page 6608 of the Evidence/Property Forms, on the second line, does it say; "1 brown bag containing: umbilical cord, ... :eek:

http://www.wftv.com/pdf/20224804/detail.html

Yep. Nothing like a souvenir.

[Gatordog]

I wonder how "understanding" and "empathetic" Puerto Rican mothers and grandmothers would be of a woman who does not report her baby missing for 31 days? I'm betting they would stop the trial right then and there and say "She's guilty!!!!" Or, do Puerto Rican women get to serve on juries?

Sure they do. Puerto Rico is a Commonwealth of the United States. They have the same laws and follow the Constitution.

[BeastofBears]

Amy,

I've never heard of this until now. I've heard of saving snips of a boy's first haircut (and even girls'). My mom kept our ponytails from our first haircuts but then our hair was down to the back of our knees and went to bottom of our ears length. She threw them out or else donated them to a wig maker sometime ago. Thanks for the insight on this. To each his own, I guess.

Careful! You don't want to start the placenta conversation up again :tongue:

[Gatordog]

Could be. There are parents who want to keep the umbilical cord after it falls off. The first time a parent told me that, my chin almost hit the floor. I was telling my sister about it, and she said that she has kept the umbilical cords from all of her babies. :eek: Her oldest is in her 20's, and as far as I know, she still has them all.

Yes, Amy, you are right. It's the belly button that falls off. My mother saved them and she gave me mine. I looked at it and said "what the heck am I going to do with this?"

Gator

[Wagsy]

Yep. Nothing like a souvenir.

Okay...a souvenir might be the snip of hair, the first tooth lost, the first 100 on a paper brought home from school, etc for me. I hafta' respect that others have different ideas on what a souvenir is. What they save doesn't mean it's right or wrong.

[Wagsy]

Yes, Amy, you are right. It's the belly button that falls off. My mother saved them and she gave me mine. I looked at it and said "what the heck am I going to do with this?"

Gator

You make me laugh all the time with your remarks. I still laugh when I remember the one where your mom accidentally hit your dad in the head with her purse when trying to use it on you children. These are the reasons I chose this place to make my adventure into posting on boards about a subject.

My sister came home after working 2nd shift and closed the bedroom door except about 8 inches to my parents room. We were laughing and giggling when we heard "BOOM...BOOM" in rapid succession then Dad hollering, "It wasn't me, it wasn't me!"

[BeastofBears]

JMO, I am amazed that people go out of their way to look like deranged killers who have escaped from a prison for the mentally insane. :shrug:

Gator

Hey, where'd you see me? :D

[Marian Paroo]

Don't some people freeze the cord (in special laboratories) for the stem cells/stem cell blood in case they later need it for medical purposes?

[Justice Denied?]

what is the white thing hanging off her shirt in the back? anyone know?

I believe it is a strap that is supposed to be fastened to the other side in the back, gathering the back and giving more of an hour glass shape.

[Justice Denied?]

Did Zanny kidnap Cindy I ask? Who is this woman we now see that does not utter a word? Where is Cindy and what have they done with her :shrug:

Maybe somebody finally convinced her to shut up before she was cited for contempt of court. Of, course it is more likely this is a clone or impersonator. LOL JMO, MOO

[deacon]

Maybe somebody finally convinced her to shut up before she was cited for contempt of court. Of, course it is more likely this is a clone or impersonator. LOL JMO, MOO

*que the music* (in my best Rod Sterling voice) "You have now entered the Twilight Zone.":D

[Justice Denied?]

She (C) must be feeling like she pulled one over on them with her fine verbal skills. Now that will be a great read:D Thats cuz you gotta a heart gator-sorry it is still hurting sweetie. Time. I know u know that. I figure thats what Liars fascination with hearts is/was. Trying to figure out how life would be if she had one. For gator:rose: Maybe he is up there frollicking with Caylee-thats a nice thought:rose: O/T shoes arrived-luv luv em. True to fit and comfy. Thanks for those great sites-under my faves:seeya:

They keep saying that CA is being quiet. Does that mean she is not talking to reporters while going in and out or is she taking the Fifth and not talking? TIA

[Wagsy]

They keep saying that CA is being quiet. Does that mean she is not talking to reporters while going in and out or is she taking the Fifth and not talking? TIA

IMO, she is just not saying anything as she goes in and out to her deposition.

[Justice Denied?]

So sorry about your pup, it's so tough to love a loving companion.

Like the Grinch, Cindy's heart seems to be an empty hole. Wouldn't want to be in her shoes for million$, but how she can live with herself and not stand up for Caylee is beyond me. Maybe today was different. Maybe she felt secure that her testimony wouldn't leak until the trial.

I just flat don't understand how CA can be so cheerful. Earlier this week my cat disappeared. She usually goes out for an hour or so after supper then is ready to come in by bedtime. She was gone all night and almost til dark the next day. I cried and fretted all day and this is a CAT for goodness sake! How can anyone be so cold?

[beemer]

They keep saying that CA is being quiet. Does that mean she is not talking to reporters while going in and out or is she taking the Fifth and not talking? TIA

Haaa haaaa prolly both. I am sure she is answering in court tho-she was in their long enough. Wow i wonder who is getting her wrath-Brad? George? Lee? Prolly all of em. I cant open one single link to read any of the documents :shrug: Heading out here again shortly so will try again later:confused:

[Wagsy]

I just flat don't understand how CA can be so cheerful. Earlier this week my cat disappeared. She usually goes out for an hour or so after supper then is ready to come in by bedtime. She was gone all night and almost til dark the next day. I cried and fretted all day and this is a CAT for goodness sake! How can anyone be so cold?
Gotta' have a heart in the first place. Not just wear the necklace or use stickers. JMO Makes you wonder how the dogs get treated in that house, huh?

[Wagsy]

Haaa haaaa prolly both. I am sure she is answering in court tho-she was in their long enough. Wow i wonder who is getting her wrath-Brad? George? Lee? Prolly all of em. I cant open one single link to read any of the documents :shrug: Heading out here again shortly so will try again later:confused:

Hope they work for you later. I've not had a problem with them. Probably because I didn't post them this time!! ;) Catch ya' later :seeya:

[beemer]

Gawd how ironic Bob-member we had conversation bout saving umbilical cords on the O/T thread a bit ago? :eek:

[Justice Denied?]

Yep her manipulation attempts could be obstruction. She really is trying to manipulate every thing to make her family look good. Only problem is when you do that to the truth it ends up a lie.

I hope they reminded her that she could face perjury charges if she lied under oath.

[beemer]

Hope they work for you later. I've not had a problem with them. Probably because I didn't post them this time!! ;) Catch ya' later :seeya:

Never had a prob before so i will have to see later whats up when i have more time. You do just fine posting them :beer:

[beemer]

Interesting lee is granted immunity but nothing said bout G&C? Are charges yet to come? Way more to pin on these two. From what we know that is:shrug:

[Wagsy]

Interesting lee is granted immunity but nothing said bout G&C? Are charges yet to come? Way more to pin on these two. From what we know that is:shrug:

I hope they do nail 'em at some point. IMO there's a lot they could be charged with. They started digging their own holes when they told their 'mis-truths'. :no:

[deacon]

I hope they reminded her that she could face perjury charges if she lied under oath.

If she doesn't know already then there is no hope for her. I would guess her lawyer at least has told her.

[Wagsy]

Found this as I was browsing:


Posted: 9:45 am EDT July 30, 2009
Updated: 6:19 pm EDT July 30, 2009

WHAT'S NEXT IN THE CASE AGAINST CASEY

Here's what's next in the case against Casey. A status hearing is set for January 21st to determine a possible trial date.

The judge must also consider a possible change of venue. Meanwhile, there's still no trial date for the civil lawsuit she's facing.

http://www.wftv.com/news/20223813/detail.html


_________________________

We already know George is supposed to give his deposition to the SA's office next week (the last I knew). Bummer that there's no trial date for her civil lawsuit yet. :mad:

[Gatordog]

I just flat don't understand how CA can be so cheerful. Earlier this week my cat disappeared. She usually goes out for an hour or so after supper then is ready to come in by bedtime. She was gone all night and almost til dark the next day. I cried and fretted all day and this is a CAT for goodness sake! How can anyone be so cold?

JD, sorry you had such a scare but I'm glad she's home now. I understand exactly how you feel. It is amazing that we feel so much compassion for an animal and yet it seems to be lacking in those who should be mournig a child. JMO :shrug:

[BeastofBears]

Don't some people freeze the cord (in special laboratories) for the stem cells/stem cell blood in case they later need it for medical purposes?

uh-huh. iirc, it costs like $1500. But they only store the cord blood, not the cord. I think this was another situation. Sounds like something CA might keep, imo.

[deacon]

Found this as I was browsing:


Posted: 9:45 am EDT July 30, 2009
Updated: 6:19 pm EDT July 30, 2009

WHAT'S NEXT IN THE CASE AGAINST CASEY

Here's what's next in the case against Casey. A status hearing is set for January 21st to determine a possible trial date.

The judge must also consider a possible change of venue. Meanwhile, there's still no trial date for the civil lawsuit she's facing.

http://www.wftv.com/news/20223813/detail.html


_________________________

We already know George is supposed to give his deposition to the SA's office next week (the last I knew). Bummer that there's no trial date for her civil lawsuit yet. :mad:

Interesting that cindy would say that the two people who are suspects and casey's ex and the girl she stole money from. Things that make you say hmmmmm.

[Gatordog]

It was reported a little after 6 pm that Lee was still in the deposition. Cindy's depo was 13 hours in total. I guess it's hard to try to remember fact from fiction since the two seemed to "dance with each other" so often in this case. http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-love025.gif (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php) The truth and lies go round and round.

Gator

[BeastofBears]

Interesting that cindy would say that the two people who are suspects and casey's ex and the girl she stole money from. Things that make you say hmmmmm.

What are the odds, huh?

[deacon]

What are the odds, huh?

Should be a charge for attempted payback.

[mu8shark]

Um what the hell? I heard that in the new documents released Cindy tries really hard to convince LE that there was a nanny. She refers to certain toys that Caylee took to Zanny's and a curling iron that Zanny gave her and she wanted both dusted for fingerprints. Um, so what to make of her telling LE early on in an interview that she has suspected or known for a year that there was no nanny and that she thought maybe the nanny might be Jesse or Amy(both people Casey stole from oddly.I agree with the poster this is probably a payback on Cindys part implicationg them) . So which is it? There is a nanny and she believes to this day there was one or for a year she has known there was no nanny and it was a substitute for someone else's name. I heard a talking head say today that they thought Cindy saying this was helpful to her defense and also they may well use Cindy to convince the jury there was a nanny. Really????? Use Cindy of a million lies or mistruths as she calls them. You mean the Cindy who said it smelled like a dead body, pizza , frozen food, did not smell at all until it went to the tow yard, the same Cindy who had the nanny's phone and address and never acted on that at all. If Jose uses her in Caseys defense,imagine how that taped depo is going to make her look. Also I have a question , did Cindy contend Zanny gave her the hair straightener directly or Casey said Zanny gave it to her. I thought she never met the nanny.

[deacon]

Um what the hell? I heard that in the new documents released Cindy tries really hard to convince LE that there was a nanny. She refers to certain toys that Caylee took to Zanny's and a curling iron that Zanny gave her and she wanted both dusted for fingerprints. Um, so what to make of her telling LE early on in an interview that she has suspected or known for a year that there was no nanny and that she thought maybe the nanny might be Jesse or Amy(both people Casey stole from oddly.I agree with the poster this is probably a payback on Cindys part implicationg them) . So which is it? There is a nanny and she believes to this day there was one or for a year she has known there was no nanny and it was a substitute for someone else's name. I heard a talking head say today that they thought Cindy saying this was helpful to her defense and also they may well use Cindy to convince the jury there was a nanny. Really????? Use Cindy of a million lies or mistruths as she calls them. You mean the Cindy who said it smelled like a dead body, pizza , frozen food, did not smell at all until it went to the tow yard, the same Cindy who had the nanny's phone and address and never acted on that at all. If Jose uses her in Caseys defense,imagine how that taped depo is going to make her look. Also I have a question , did Cindy contend Zanny gave her the hair straightener directly or Casey said Zanny gave it to her. I thought she never met the nanny.

With all the "spin" she should have been a lawyer. Well, maybe not she does have trouble even saying a half-truth.

[Wagsy]

Um what the hell? I heard that in the new documents released Cindy tries really hard to convince LE that there was a nanny. She refers to certain toys that Caylee took to Zanny's and a curling iron that Zanny gave her and she wanted both dusted for fingerprints. Um, so what to make of her telling LE early on in an interview that she has suspected or known for a year that there was no nanny and that she thought maybe the nanny might be Jesse or Amy(both people Casey stole from oddly.I agree with the poster this is probably a payback on Cindys part implicationg them) . So which is it? There is a nanny and she believes to this day there was one or for a year she has known there was no nanny and it was a substitute for someone else's name. I heard a talking head say today that they thought Cindy saying this was helpful to her defense and also they may well use Cindy to convince the jury there was a nanny. Really????? Use Cindy of a million lies or mistruths as she calls them. You mean the Cindy who said it smelled like a dead body, pizza , frozen food, did not smell at all until it went to the tow yard, the same Cindy who had the nanny's phone and address and never acted on that at all. If Jose uses her in Caseys defense,imagine how that taped depo is going to make her look. Also I have a question , did Cindy contend Zanny gave her the hair straightener directly or Casey said Zanny gave it to her. I thought she never met the nanny.

Good post! In answer to your question, the doc dump has a statement from Cindy saying she "remembered Casey saying Zanny had given her the hair straightener". So, she still never met the nanny. Err...what nanny? IMO

[Wagsy]

With all the "spin" she should have been a lawyer. Well, maybe not she does have trouble even saying a half-truth.

Oh she'd make a fine lawyer. She'd have everyone "spinning" from all her 'mis-truths' or umm, half-truths and no one could figure out where she's coming from so therefore couldn't convict her client. teehee. :)

[BeastofBears]

Um what the hell? I heard that in the new documents released Cindy tries really hard to convince LE that there was a nanny. She refers to certain toys that Caylee took to Zanny's and a curling iron that Zanny gave her and she wanted both dusted for fingerprints. Um, so what to make of her telling LE early on in an interview that she has suspected or known for a year that there was no nanny and that she thought maybe the nanny might be Jesse or Amy(both people Casey stole from oddly.I agree with the poster this is probably a payback on Cindys part implicationg them) . So which is it? There is a nanny and she believes to this day there was one or for a year she has known there was no nanny and it was a substitute for someone else's name. I heard a talking head say today that they thought Cindy saying this was helpful to her defense and also they may well use Cindy to convince the jury there was a nanny. Really????? Use Cindy of a million lies or mistruths as she calls them. You mean the Cindy who said it smelled like a dead body, pizza , frozen food, did not smell at all until it went to the tow yard, the same Cindy who had the nanny's phone and address and never acted on that at all. If Jose uses her in Caseys defense,imagine how that taped depo is going to make her look. Also I have a question , did Cindy contend Zanny gave her the hair straightener directly or Casey said Zanny gave it to her. I thought she never met the nanny.

I think the talking head has not been following this story like we have, imo. We know the many permutations that have happened, and if you ask me, they will all cancel out anything Cindy has to say on the stand. If I were on a jury and had several versions played and read to me, that witness would no longer be credible to me.

I just know I don't want any pizza a la squirrel from Orlando...I mean, if the local pizza can be confused with decomp, I'm pretty sure it didn't come out of Gator's kitchen...

[deacon]

I think the talking head has not been following this story like we have, imo. We know the many permutations that have happened, and if you ask me, they will all impeach anything Cindy has to say on the stand. If I were on a jury and had several versions played and read to me, that witness would no longer be credible to me.

I just know I don't want any pizza a la squirrel from Orlando...I mean, if the local pizza can be confused with decomp, I'm pretty sure it didn't come out of Gator's kitchen...

I'm with you on that one. That would be one stinking pizza.:eek:

[BeastofBears]

Good post! In answer to your question, the doc dump has a statement from Cindy saying she "remembered Casey saying Zanny had given her the hair straightener". So, she still never met the nanny. Err...what nanny? IMO

The...hairy, video-playing, dog-loving, independently wealthy, child-care hobbyist, philanthropic, didactic hottie of a nannie?

(just based on the many descriptions of the elusive...Zenaida!)

[Wagsy]

The...hairy, video-playing, dog-loving, independently wealthy, child-care hobbyist, philanthropic, didactic hottie of a nannie?

(just based on the many descriptions of the elusive...Zenaida!)

Yeah. You know, that one that babysat for $400/week...no wait, for free...for the hard-working mother of one child who had to be gone all hours of the day and night to provide, who was thrown out on her own to survive any way she could (by her parents), who did such an up-standing job of raising that child to have good morals (no lying, no sleeping around with lots of different men, no stealing, no envying...), no vehicle of her own to get around so must have used public transportation, and is now taking all the blame for killing her daughter and handling it so admirably all the time. Yeah...rrrrriiiggggghhhhhttttttttt. :D

[Wagsy]

Good post! In answer to your question, the doc dump has a statement from Cindy saying she "remembered Casey saying Zanny had given her the hair straightener". So, she still never met the nanny. Err...what nanny? IMO


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[mu8shark]

Good post! In answer to your question, the doc dump has a statement from Cindy saying she "remembered Casey saying Zanny had given her the hair straightener". So, she still never met the nanny. Err...what nanny? IMOOh so Casey told her , well translation, Lie..... LOL. I was wondering when the FBI released the info about the decomp air test. Was that in August? I actually found the statement about the hair straightener dated August 7 and before that was Cindys interview about her thinking for a year there was no Zanny. So maybe when the air test came out she knew she had to backtrack and find a way to blur that original statement. She has been lying ever since. Maybe the prosecution can introduce CIndy and Casey as Liar Sr and Liar Jr.

[lorettalockhorn]

The...hairy, video-playing, dog-loving, independently wealthy, child-care hobbyist, philanthropic, didactic hottie of a nannie?

(just based on the many descriptions of the elusive...Zenaida!)

The TEN nanny! http://i7.tinypic.com/40g01vk.jpg

Mu8's right, Cindy is just so full of it that it doesn't matter what she told either side, she's told the opposite to the same side, the opposite side, or has been recorded by the media and is a liar. She'll waste Lord only knows how much time if she's put on the stand only to be discounted as a hostile witness and or FOS. And maybe that's exactly what she wants.

Ditto for George.

[lorettalockhorn]

Oh so Casey told her , well translation, Lie..... LOL. I was wondering when the FBI released the info about the decomp air test. Was that in August? I actually found the statement about the hair straightener dated August 7 and before that was Cindys interview about her thinking for a year there was no Zanny. So maybe when the air test came out she knew she had to backtrack and find a way to blur that original statement. She has been lying ever since. Maybe the prosecution can introduce CIndy and Casey as Liar Sr and Liar Jr.

http://i39.tinypic.com/14t1qf8.jpg

[BeastofBears]

The TEN nanny! http://i7.tinypic.com/40g01vk.jpg

*snip*

Well, don't forget the rest of the Zenaida! playset...
http://i27.tinypic.com/20rmptz.jpg http://i41.tinypic.com/2n6t4zn.jpg http://i27.tinypic.com/2iw0vow.jpg http://i26.tinypic.com/2poqq1e.jpg http://i31.tinypic.com/28k82u1.jpg She has stuff, so she must exist, right? This situation is ridiculous, moo, moo.

[beemer]

Ahhh good stuff Loretta-now we know what Zanny looks like:D Now i can open the links:shrug:

[beemer]

I know a minor detail but it just crossed my mind. I wonder which friend or store was missing a hair straightener?

[lorettalockhorn]

Well, don't forget the rest of the Zenaida! playset...
http://i27.tinypic.com/20rmptz.jpg http://i41.tinypic.com/2n6t4zn.jpg http://i27.tinypic.com/2iw0vow.jpg http://i26.tinypic.com/2poqq1e.jpg http://i31.tinypic.com/28k82u1.jpg She has stuff, so she must exist, right? This situation is ridiculous, moo, moo.

What's this? http://i27.tinypic.com/2iw0vow.jpg A month's pay? Nice of Casey to pay cash! LMFAO

[lorettalockhorn]

Ahhh good stuff Loretta-now we know what Zanny looks like:D Now i can open the links:shrug:

Great news! Do you mind reading everything and giving me a recap? :hat::tongue:

[Wagsy]

I know a minor detail but it just crossed my mind. I wonder which friend or store was missing a hair straightener?

Are you asking if it's Amy or Target? :biggrin:

[BeastofBears]

What's this? http://i27.tinypic.com/2iw0vow.jpg A month's pay? Nice of Casey to pay cash! LMFAO

You might want to check to make sure the inner bills aren't cut up newspaper:D

[BeastofBears]

Ahhh good stuff Loretta-now we know what Zanny looks like:D Now i can open the links:shrug:

Unless you want to know every grade, work evaluation, and nosebleed Jesse G had, don't bother. I decided to skip most of it out of moral outrage...poor guy. And whoever's next. moo

[Wagsy]

You might want to check to make sure the inner bills aren't cut up newspaper:D
Or counterfeit from the computer!

[beemer]

Great news! Do you mind reading everything and giving me a recap? :hat::tongue:

I'll get right on that LOL:hat:;)

[beemer]

Are you asking if it's Amy or Target? :biggrin:
That would be the question Wags LOL:biggrin:

[Wagsy]

The TEN nanny! http://i7.tinypic.com/40g01vk.jpg






WOW! That's a bodacious nanny. It even looks like she's running along the beach on an island in the Caribbean! Such good looks and talent hiding from all of us now! Someone'll spot her yet! :)

[beemer]

Unless you want to know every grade, work evaluation, and nosebleed Jesse G had, don't bother. I decided to skip most of it out of moral outrage...poor guy. And whoever's next. moo

I'm not going to read that part either. Poor guy all his info for the world to see. Ironic when Liar screws her friends she really does a number on them. No pun intended:eek:

[Wagsy]

That would be the question Wags LOL:biggrin:

Take yer pick, beem. Any answer we get probably won't be the truth anyway! :punch:

[beemer]

Well c'mon now-now that we have a pic of Zanny can we not believe that Zanny would not have a need for a hair straightener? Of course she gave it to Liar:rolleyes:

[beemer]

Take yer pick, beem. Any answer we get probably won't be the truth anyway! :punch:

Haaa haaa yeah these are the folks we know about. Wonder how many others she ripped off we may never know about? Maybe they dont even know?

[Wagsy]

Haaa haaa yeah these are the folks we know about. Wonder how many others she ripped off we may never know about? Maybe they dont even know?

Maybe it'll come out yet in the deposition transcripts of all her other friends we haven't laid eyes on yet. We may just yet be surprised how much she ripped off her 'friends' by the time this is all over. Giving her rides (did she pay for the gas?), letting her 'borrow' items from Caylee's playmates (how many were there?), going to parties where the alcohol (and what else?) was provided for free, just using money from checking accounts she could get access to and Lord knows what else. Yep. Guess you're right - we (and they) may NEVER know. :shrug:

[lorettalockhorn]

You might want to check to make sure the inner bills aren't cut up newspaper:D

Or

http://i35.tinypic.com/2848qw.jpg

Zanny's such a sweetie and dint need the $$ so she wouldn't bat an eye. http://i6.tinypic.com/54aemo3.jpg

[lorettalockhorn]

Maybe it'll come out yet in the deposition transcripts of all her other friends we haven't laid eyes on yet. We may just yet be surprised how much she ripped off her 'friends' by the time this is all over. Giving her rides (did she pay for the gas?), letting her 'borrow' items from Caylee's playmates (how many were there?), going to parties where the alcohol (and what else?) was provided for free, just using money from checking accounts she could get access to and Lord knows what else. Yep. Guess you're right - we (and they) may NEVER know. :shrug:

As far as I can tell, Caylee had zero playmates. Haven't seen one single pic of Caylee with another child or at a BDay party, etc. And I do not think it's normal for the Ants to have isolated her, although she seems very well socialized in the vids.

But wouldn't be surprised if you're right that there are things that we don't know or have an inkling of yet, and maybe won't until close to trial or not at all if they're not used.

[DrewBerry]

The TEN nanny! http://i7.tinypic.com/40g01vk.jpg

Mu8's right, Cindy is just so full of it that it doesn't matter what she told either side, she's told the opposite to the same side, the opposite side, or has been recorded by the media and is a liar. She'll waste Lord only knows how much time if she's put on the stand only to be discounted as a hostile witness and or FOS. And maybe that's exactly what she wants.

Ditto for George.

Ya got that right, Loretta.
I hope someone tells The Grinch that she "is no 10." Just like G & C did to Zenaida. What a couple of A-holes!!!
DrewB

[DrewBerry]

Well c'mon now-now that we have a pic of Zanny can we not believe that Zanny would not have a need for a hair straightener? Of course she gave it to Liar:rolleyes:

Hey Beemer! Just stopped by to catch up and say hello! :seeya:
Drew

[DrewBerry]

I hope they do nail 'em at some point. IMO there's a lot they could be charged with. They started digging their own holes when they told their 'mis-truths'. :no:

Hi Wagsy! I'm with you. There's so much these liars could be nailed for. I'm done feeling any "grandparent's loss" sympathy. I say they deserve whatever they get. Justice for Caylee. :rose:
Drew

[DrewBerry]

As far as I can tell, Caylee had zero playmates. Haven't seen one single pic of Caylee with another child or at a BDay party, etc. And I do not think it's normal for the Ants to have isolated her, although she seems very well socialized in the vids.

But wouldn't be surprised if you're right that there are things that we don't know or have an inkling of yet, and maybe won't until close to trial or not at all if they're not used.

Hey Loretta. Good post. I've often thought the same. I've never seen any other family members with her either. Only with great-grandpa.
Interesting dynamics dontcha think? I tend to believe the Ants. didn't have much of a social circle. WHen you've got all those secrets, lies to keep, you can't risk letting others into your world.
Poor Caylee. Look what a mess of family she was learning from. . . :rose:
DrewB

[Wagsy]

Hi Wagsy! I'm with you. There's so much these liars could be nailed for. I'm done feeling any "grandparent's loss" sympathy. I say they deserve whatever they get. Justice for Caylee. :rose:
Drew

Hi Drew :seeya: To be honest with you, I've never seen what I would term REAL GRIEF ever in any videos posted throughout since this came down last July from G&C. Now, I know people grieve differently but at some time we all go through the 5 major stages of grief.

*Denial
*Anger
*Bargaining
*Depression
*Acceptance

I've noticed a lot of denial & anger and maybe that's where they're stuck. But, throughout grieving, at any or all stages, there are real tears. I've seen fake ones produced by them when they didn't want the autopsy report released, maybe there were even a few at the memorial service but none seemed genuine to me. JMO's Sometimes you're numb, exhausted, in shock, feeling like you're in the spotlight and can't break down like you'd really want to, whatever; but usually there is crying at some point. Maybe it's been all contained and only done in the house on Hopespring Drive. As public as they've made themselves, you'd think something would trigger the REAL THING. Haven't observed it from my perspective. Just my thoughts and opinions for what they're worth!! :tongue:

[Amy]

Interesting lee is granted immunity but nothing said bout G&C? Are charges yet to come? Way more to pin on these two. From what we know that is:shrug:

I notice Brad hasn't said anything lately about immunity for George and Cindy, but then, even when he said they WOULD ask for it, he swears they haven't done anything that they would need it for. Guess we will see, huh?

Of course, I guess it could be a possibility they did get it, and it's just been kept quiet. I would think the immunity deal for Lee has been in the works, and I hadn't read anything about him getting it until today. NAH,.....for all that Cindy seems to have a new personality, I don't see her not being able to gloat to reporters if she got immunity.

[Wagsy]

As far as I can tell, Caylee had zero playmates. Haven't seen one single pic of Caylee with another child or at a BDay party, etc. And I do not think it's normal for the Ants to have isolated her, although she seems very well socialized in the vids.

But wouldn't be surprised if you're right that there are things that we don't know or have an inkling of yet, and maybe won't until close to trial or not at all if they're not used.

The only playmate(s) I've ever heard referred to were the little boy & girl that Zanny was supposedly taking care of along with Caylee. Other than that, her playmates were probably the dogs at home!

I agree with you ~ there's so much info to this case that I can't even begin to imagine the amount of storage space needed to hold it all. And, I wouldn't want to have the job of deciding what to use and what not to use! :chicken: Where in the world would you start????

[beemer]

Hey Beemer! Just stopped by to catch up and say hello! :seeya:
Drew
Hey Drew:seeya: You still in the sweltering heat wave?

[beemer]

Yes putting this case together must be a friggin nightmare to sift thru. Wonder how much more there is we have not even layed eyes on yet. I can only imagine:shrug:

[Amy]

Hey Loretta. Good post. I've often thought the same. I've never seen any other family members with her either. Only with great-grandpa.
Interesting dynamics dontcha think? I tend to believe the Ants. didn't have much of a social circle. WHen you've got all those secrets, lies to keep, you can't risk letting others into your world.
Poor Caylee. Look what a mess of family she was learning from. . . :rose:
DrewB

Pretty much what that older couple (neighbors, they sounded like "older") said in that one video. The A's sure didn't seem to socialize with any of the neighbors, just trotted around w/Caylee in a buggy now and then. Of course, they could have had friends that weren't neighbors, but mighty few have come forward. The girl who used to baby sit Caylee for free until she found out that Casey wasn't working. Is she the same one who swore on NG or GVS or somewhere that Casey could not possibly have killed Caylee, because she breastfed her?

[lorettalockhorn]

Hey Loretta. Good post. I've often thought the same. I've never seen any other family members with her either. Only with great-grandpa.
Interesting dynamics dontcha think? I tend to believe the Ants. didn't have much of a social circle. WHen you've got all those secrets, lies to keep, you can't risk letting others into your world.
Poor Caylee. Look what a mess of family she was learning from. . . :rose:
DrewB

Maybe Caylee did have little friends and the Ants just don't have permission to publish of SELL the pix, but I doubt it for some reason. Their dynamics are interesting if for no other reason than Why? Why are they so isolated? Hermits? Homebodies? Agoraphobes? I can dig it. But you have a responsibility to prepare a child and part of that includes the socializing aspect.

That video with Mr. Plesea is precious and I'm so glad we got to see it. Beauty.

ETA: Where are my manners? Hey! :seeya:

[Amy]

Maybe Caylee did have little friends and the Ants just don't have permission to publish of SELL the pix, but I doubt it for some reason. Their dynamics are interesting if for no other reason than Why? Why are they so isolated? Hermits? Homebodies? Agoraphobes? I can dig it. But you have a responsibility to prepare a child and part of that includes the socializing aspect.

That video with Mr. Plesea is precious and I'm so glad we got to see it. Beauty.

ETA: Where are my manners? Hey! :seeya:

I'm not sure where a lot of the pics we had of Caylee came from ---maybe off Casey's my space before it was all deleted and made private and all that? Cuz I'm pretty sure those pics weren't put out by the A's--they weren't into the selling @ the very beginning when those came out.

I would think that, even if they came from Casey's MySpace, that she surely would have included pics of other kids Caylee played with, or attended bd parties. So, I really don't think there could have been any other kids than Casey's imaginary friend's imaginary kids.

[lorettalockhorn]

Hi Drew :seeya: To be honest with you, I've never seen what I would term REAL GRIEF ever in any videos posted throughout since this came down last July from G&C. Now, I know people grieve differently but at some time we all go through the 5 major stages of grief.

*Denial
*Anger
*Bargaining
*Depression
*Acceptance

I've noticed a lot of denial & anger and maybe that's where they're stuck. But, throughout grieving, at any or all stages, there are real tears. I've seen fake ones produced by them when they didn't want the autopsy report released, maybe there were even a few at the memorial service but none seemed genuine to me. JMO's Sometimes you're numb, exhausted, in shock, feeling like you're in the spotlight and can't break down like you'd really want to, whatever; but usually there is crying at some point. Maybe it's been all contained and only done in the house on Hopespring Drive. As public as they've made themselves, you'd think something would trigger the REAL THING. Haven't observed it from my perspective. Just my thoughts and opinions for what they're worth!! :tongue:

ITA These folks seem to have no shame in airing their dirty laundry/bad behavior. Why go to such lengths to hids what's real? Unless what we've seen is real and that's all there is.

I asked myself today if G&C were to straighten up and fly right, i.e. tell the truth, would I give them the benefit of the doubt? And yes, I would. I'd give them at least another chance. But then I'm putting conditions on them and I don't even know them. Sooooooooo I guess no matter how you look at it, I'm judging them. But when people are in your life, you have to draw the line somewhere when it comes to jerking you around. :shrug:

[lorettalockhorn]

Pretty much what that older couple (neighbors, they sounded like "older") said in that one video. The A's sure didn't seem to socialize with any of the neighbors, just trotted around w/Caylee in a buggy now and then. Of course, they could have had friends that weren't neighbors, but mighty few have come forward. The girl who used to baby sit Caylee for free until she found out that Casey wasn't working. Is she the same one who swore on NG or GVS or somewhere that Casey could not possibly have killed Caylee, because she breastfed her?

The one who's on the board of directors of the Caylee Marie Anthony Foundation?? hmmm