Caylee Anthony Case Discussion Only

[Wagsy]

Unfortunately, that was only a small clip, she was on the stand about one hour. The gum never stopped and the hostility grew. The glaring eyes are what crack me up. Oh yeah, the Grinch Eyes!

Remember how on LIE TO ME that said that when a person lies, they usually touch their ear, hair or face. It was as if she had fleas she touched, scratched and moved so much. http://www.freesmileys.org/emoticons/emoticon-animal-016.gif (http://www.freesmileys.org/emoticons.php)

Gator

I am going to go back and see if the full bond hearing is recorded by someone. If I find one, I'll come back and post a link (if I can do it correctly :cool:). I noticed the same gyrations and scratching which indicated to me from my limited knowledge also tied to LIE TO ME and that spoke volumes to me about her truthfulness! Love your 'fleas' and emoticon!! JMHO

[lorettalockhorn]

From WDBO Local News

Public continues fascination of Casey Anthony

Casey Anthony saga fascinates public a year later
By MIKE SCHNEIDER, Associated Press Writer Mike Schneider, Associated Press Writer
ORLANDO, Fla. – The story of Casey Anthony and her little girl has become a soap opera of sorts over the last year, with plot twists and turns, and a colorful cast of supporting characters.

There are the grandparents, George and Cindy. The phantom baby sitter. The bounty hunter. The meter reader.

At the center of it all is the petite 23-year-old mother charged with killing her 2-year-old daughter, Caylee. It's been one year since the toddler was reported missing, and while her body was found six months ago, authorities still don't know exactly how she died.

That's one of the many unknowns that has kept the public's interest over the last year. Viewers tune in to the cable television news show hosted by Nancy Grace, who dubbed Casey the "Tot Mom," to find out about every development. People chat on parenting Web sites about her chances of a fair trial and debate over her innocence or guilt has filled talk radio.

"It certainly has the makings of a made-for-TV movie or a soap opera," said Bob Longo, news director of WESH, which like other Orlando television news stations has relentlessly covered the case. "I think people have opinions on the characters in the saga. They identify with them or against them."

The story started as a mystery, centered on finding out what happened to Caylee. But soon, Casey Anthony became the chief suspect and the image of a sympathetic mother morphed into that of a party-loving club-hopper. The stories she told detectives and her parents about where she worked and where she had dropped off Caylee with a baby sitter were lies, police said.

It turned out Caylee had been missing more than a month before Casey Anthony told her family. After her arrest, she told police she had been conducting her own investigation into her daughter's whereabouts.

George and Cindy Anthony, the grandparents, were used to seeing the little girl almost every day. But beginning about mid-June 2008, Casey and Caylee just weren't around.

When the grandparents inquired, Casey said she was traveling with Caylee around central Florida. Cindy began to worry, though, and called her daughter frequently, demanding to know Caylee's whereabouts. There were always excuses: Caylee was with the baby sitter or at the beach with friends.

In mid-July, George and Cindy picked up their daughter's car from a towing lot and noticed a stench from the trunk. Cindy Anthony confronted her daughter, who initially said Caylee was with the phantom baby sitter. Then, Casey finally admitted the little girl had been missing for a month.

"There's something wrong," Cindy Anthony said in a 911 call. "I found my daughter's car today and it smelled like there's been a dead body in the damn car."

Casey Anthony was arrested the next day on charges of child neglect and providing false information to authorities. She continued to tell law enforcement that Caylee had been left with a baby sitter, whom she identified as Zenaida Gonzalez.

That's when the story switched from a private drama of domestic tensions between parents and a daughter to a very public tale. Reporters camped outside the Anthony home for weeks and protesters with "Baby Killer" signs picketed their street.

Casey Anthony maintained her innocence throughout.

"I'm not in control of this because I don't know what the hell is going on," she tearfully told her parents during a jailhouse visit last summer. "My entire life has been taken from me. Everything has been taken from me."

Leonard Padilla, a cowboy-hat-wearing, California-based bounty hunter became part of the narrative by posting her bond last year. He thought having her out of jail would aid in finding Caylee, but he turned on her when she proved uncooperative. He made frequent appearances on television talk shows in the following months, offering unflattering commentary.

Meanwhile, hundreds of volunteers scoured woods in south Orlando in search of clues to Caylee's disappearance.

In mid-October, a grand jury indicted Anthony on first-degree murder charges, even though Caylee's body hadn't been found. She has been in jail ever since.

Prosecutors didn't have a body until meter reader Roy Kronk became involved. In August, Kronk thought he had seen a bag in the woods near a road where he had stopped to take a break. He called authorities three times over the next three days, but when they finally came, they found nothing.

It wasn't until December, when Kronk returned to the woods, that he discovered a bag with Caylee's remains inside. Detectives said residue of a heart-shaped sticker was found on duct tape over the mouth of her skull.

Along the way, there have been other bizarre subplots. A despondent George Anthony attempted suicide in a Daytona Beach motel room in January and then was committed to a hospital for several days.

A spokesman for the Anthony family was dismissed after the family accused him of taking payments for booking their television appearances. Another spokesman who never showed his face to reporters turned out to be a fictitious creation of the public relations firm used by Casey Anthony's attorney.

As much as Casey Anthony's story has transfixed viewers, Lezlie Laws, a professor of nonfiction writing at Rollins College in suburban Orlando, worries that the discourse about the case hasn't been constructive.

"What is it about us as a society that would cultivate a human being that would be capable of doing that? What are we doing wrong? Where do we need to put our time, attention, money and social services?" she said.

"I don't see that being raised," Laws said. "Instead, it's just a sensational, spilled guts on the concrete, kind of 'Look at this, isn't this gross?' story."

http://wdbo.com/localnews/2009/07/public-continues-fascination-o.html

Guess Ms. Laws doesn't read what us loser bloggers/posters have to say.

[lorettalockhorn]

Remember how on LIE TO ME that said that when a person lies, they usually touch their ear, hair or face. It was as if she had fleas she touched, scratched and moved so much. http://www.freesmileys.org/emoticons/emoticon-animal-016.gif (http://www.freesmileys.org/emoticons.php)

Gator

LMAO@ fleas. You know the old saying: Lie down with dogs...

[lorettalockhorn]

The trouble w/Padilla, IMO, is that all of his info comes from another party, whether it be Cindy, George, his FBI buddy, Tracey, etc etc etc. The people from whom he got his "inside info" would be the ones who would testify to what they told him, IMO. He got nothing, nada, zilch from Casey Anthony. Which, IMO, would be the only thing he would be able to testify to. Otherwise, all his "stuff" is hearsay from other parties. Just IMO, of course.

I honestly can't imagine that LP has much firsthand knowledge to contribute, but maybe he does. (Or there's no telling what Casey has told Baez that she told Lenny. Does that make sense?) As much as Padilla loves the sound of his own voice, he's probably got things that he hasn't blabbed yet, and it's possible that Baez knows what those things are, and that would account for him reaching for something, ANYthing to keep his testimony out of open court. I think Leonard's purpose in bailing Casey out was every bit as much for the purpose of attaching himself to a sensational case as it was to "find Caylee".

[Amy]

they seem pretty strong and definite about the whole thing. If it was hearsay couldn't Baez just object in court?

But, why bother to call him as witness @ all? Just for Baez to object if all his info is second-hand, which it sure seems to me? Just call on the people who gave Padilla the information. It would save ever so much time and money to call the person who has the information first hand. But, it would make for more drama in the courtroom, I guess. IMO

[Amy]

Hi Amy :seeya:,

I read the linked documents also and I got out of the payment that it was for the full amount owed. It was an exact amount; $664.25. But, I didn't see anything that pointed to the payment voiding any prosecution either.

There was mention about prosecution, but it was either very poorly worded, or in just intense legal jargon that I couldn't read it straight, but it sure read to me that, sure, you paid this, but we can still prosecute.

[lorettalockhorn]

>>At the center of it all is the petite 23-year-old mother charged with killing her 2-year-old daughter, Caylee.

http://i2.tinypic.com/2d9rxmt.jpg

[lighthousedazy]

I'm not an attorney nor do I play one on TV. ;) But, I've watched a lot of tv and from what I've seen, an attorney cannot use a line of defense if he knows it is a lie. As an officer of the court, they are sworn to be honest. At least I think so anyway.

Gator
I know very little about the law and I agree with you. It seems to me that what Baez is trying to pull is a form of "witness tampering" which the last time I heard that was illegal. :eek:

[SaraSidle]

But, why bother to call him as witness @ all? Just for Baez to object if all his info is second-hand, which it sure seems to me? Just call on the people who gave Padilla the information. It would save ever so much time and money to call the person who has the information first hand. But, it would make for more drama in the courtroom, I guess. IMO

So why do you think the defense does not want LP to testify?

[JLette]

So why do you think the defense does not want LP to testify?

because their idiotic client probably DID run her mouth non stop around him when she was out on bail, and they are afraid that some of what she may have told him may actually be the truth?

[Wagsy]

If anything, the payment points to CA's guilt. Way to go Bozo Baez! :hat:
ITA. Why else would he have issued that money to Bank of America? For charity?

[deacon]

From WDBO Local News

]"What is it about us as a society that would cultivate a human being that would be capable of doing that? What are we doing wrong? Where do we need to put our time, attention, money and social services?" she said.[/B]

"I don't see that being raised," Laws said. [/B]"Instead, it's just a sensational, spilled guts on the concrete, kind of 'Look at this, isn't this gross?' story."

http://wdbo.com/localnews/2009/07/public-continues-fascination-o.html

Guess Ms. Laws doesn't read what us loser bloggers/posters have to say.

I could tell her but she would not listen. It might take a while but I could give her an ear full about raising children to think that everything they do is right and the world, if it disagrees, is just out to get them. Taking responsibility for your own life and the lives of your children are lessons casey never learned because we have been told it isn't good to tell children when they are wrong or hold them responsible.

[Wagsy]

I know very little about the law and I agree with you. It seems to me that what Baez is trying to pull is a form of "witness tampering" which the last time I heard that was illegal. :eek:

From watching a re-run of NG on YouTube of last night's show, Padilla claims Baez doesn't want him testifying because the version told Padilla's people was the 'nabbing in the park' and the defense wants to stick to the Zanny theory. If they do, where in the world are they going to produce this Zanny from to testify? Oh, I forgot! Cindy has all the addy's and phone numbers, right??? :confused: ;)

[deacon]

So why do you think the defense does not want LP to testify?

Possibly he has heard things, and he can testify to the fact of hearing these things, that bozo does not want to see the light on day in court. You see, I really doubt that casey will ever see the stand. bozo will not call her, if he has anything bigger than a pea for a brain, and I don't think the prosecution can call her. I know she would not have to answer questions. Plead the fith.

[Wagsy]

There was mention about prosecution, but it was either very poorly worded, or in just intense legal jargon that I couldn't read it straight, but it sure read to me that, sure, you paid this, but we can still prosecute.

I was agreeing with you about the prosecution charges are not voided by that payment. I just have a poor way of wording things. :o

[Wagsy]

From WDBO Local News

Public continues fascination of Casey Anthony


As much as Casey Anthony's story has transfixed viewers, Lezlie Laws, a professor of nonfiction writing at Rollins College in suburban Orlando, worries that the discourse about the case hasn't been constructive.

"What is it about us as a society that would cultivate a human being that would be capable of doing that? What are we doing wrong? Where do we need to put our time, attention, money and social services?" she said.

"I don't see that being raised," Laws said. "Instead, it's just a sensational, spilled guts on the concrete, kind of 'Look at this, isn't this gross?' story."

http://wdbo.com/localnews/2009/07/public-continues-fascination-o.html

Guess Ms. Laws doesn't read what us loser bloggers/posters have to say.

Snipped for space...This IS modern society's way of RAISING their children. Just try to go to the school and support them for disciplinary action they may be trying to give your child. When you support them and enforce it at home, they look at you as if you've grown an eye in the center of your forehead! Why should that be the exception rather than the norm? By cracky, if you did the deed, you pay the consequences. That's the reason there are rules, regulations and laws to structure society. I believe, IMO, that if this had been applied to 'petite' Ms. Casey, then things may have turned out differently than they are today. Just my thoughts and opinions on child-rearing today.

[Amy]

I am going to go back and see if the full bond hearing is recorded by someone. If I find one, I'll come back and post a link (if I can do it correctly :cool:). I noticed the same gyrations and scratching which indicated to me from my limited knowledge also tied to LIE TO ME and that spoke volumes to me about her truthfulness! Love your 'fleas' and emoticon!! JMHO

I remember watching her FBI interview--I swear I got motion sickness watching that!!! She even had ME scratching my legs and arms and head!!!!

[lorettalockhorn]

I could tell her but she would not listen. It might take a while but I could give her an ear full about raising children to think that everything they do is right and the world, if it disagrees, is just out to get them. Taking responsibility for your own life and the lives of your children are lessons casey never learned because we have been told it isn't good to tell children when they are wrong or hold them responsible.

I can see why Laws is a prof of writing and not sociology or psychology. :rolleyes:

[lorettalockhorn]

From watching a re-run of NG on YouTube of last night's show, Padilla claims Baez doesn't want him testifying because the version told Padilla's people was the 'nabbing in the park' and the defense wants to stick to the Zanny theory. If they do, where in the world are they going to produce this Zanny from to testify? Oh, I forgot! Cindy has all the addy's and phone numbers, right??? :confused: ;)

Yep. Hard to believe that ZFG isn't on the witness list.

Baez is an idiot. He has much leeway in cross-examination. And LP is on the record as making Casey to be a perfect stranger to The Truth. Why not just blow his testimony out of the water?

[Amy]

>>At the center of it all is the petite 23-year-old mother charged with killing her 2-year-old daughter, Caylee.

http://i2.tinypic.com/2d9rxmt.jpg

WAS the petite etc etc etc---no so much petite as she once was, from what I saw of her appearance @ the hearings :D

[deacon]

I can see why Laws is a prof of writing and not sociology or psychology. :rolleyes:

But surely they took a sociology or psychology class somewhere along the lines. That is where we have the biggest problem. They don't teach those things in psychology classes in college anymore and have not for a long time. You can not talk in a negative way to a child it will hurt their ego.:no:
They need to learn at an early age that they are NOT ALWAYS RIGHT and be taught to take responsibility for their actions.

Child pshchologist say it isn't right and we are and have been for a while raising a generation that refuses to admit they are wrong and take responsibility for their actions. I wonder if it will ever turn around or will be go back to the survival of the fittest. The strongest is the one who is right.:shrug:

[SaraSidle]

From watching a re-run of NG on YouTube of last night's show, Padilla claims Baez doesn't want him testifying because the version told Padilla's people was the 'nabbing in the park' and the defense wants to stick to the Zanny theory. If they do, where in the world are they going to produce this Zanny from to testify? Oh, I forgot! Cindy has all the addy's and phone numbers, right??? :confused: ;)

well Yeah but that is not a biggie if she just told that one story to one person it could be hearsay. and like Deacon says the defense would be crazy to let her testify at all.......I donot know. :shrug: sara

[Wagsy]

well Yeah but that is not a biggie if she just told that one story to one person it could be hearsay. and like Deacon says the defense would be crazy to let her testify at all.......I donot know. :shrug: sara
I, too, agree with you and Deacon. The defense would be insane to put Casey on the stand. I don't think it will happen!

http://i39.tinypic.com/29x6og9.jpg

[lorettalockhorn]

But surely they took a sociology or psychology class somewhere along the lines. That is where we have the biggest problem. They don't teach those things in psychology classes in college anymore and have not for a long time. You can not talk in a negative way to a child it will hurt their ego.:no:
They need to learn at an early age that they are NOT ALWAYS RIGHT and be taught to take responsibility for their actions.

Child pshchologist say it isn't right and we are and have been for a while raising a generation that refuses to admit they are wrong and take responsibility for their actions. I wonder if it will ever turn around or will be go back to the survival of the fittest. The strongest is the one who is right.:shrug:

I'm not saying that people (very few anyway) learn parenting skills in Psych 101, but to earn a degree in order to become a prof you do gain insight into what shapes the psyche. This woman obviously should stick to waxing philosophical about fiction, not reality in other peoples' homes.

Parents can pretty much find a child psychologist to bolster whatever path to parenting they choose to take. Just because people have a bunch of letters at the end of their names, doesn't mean that they won't enable others.

[Amy]

I know very little about the law and I agree with you. It seems to me that what Baez is trying to pull is a form of "witness tampering" which the last time I heard that was illegal. :eek:

Now, didn't any of you all watch good ol' Perry Mason, defense attorney extraordinaire? How many times did he, near the end of the show, ask a witness "What if I told you blah blah blah?" And the witness quakes in his/her boots and confesses to the crime, or in some manner exhonerates the defendant. And Della Street coos to Perry "was that information on that paper? How did you get that?" And Perry shows the blank paper and says "I said 'what if'?"

[Gatordog]

I honestly can't imagine that LP has much firsthand knowledge to contribute, but maybe he does. (Or there's no telling what Casey has told Baez that she told Lenny. Does that make sense?) As much as Padilla loves the sound of his own voice, he's probably got things that he hasn't blabbed yet, and it's possible that Baez knows what those things are, and that would account for him reaching for something, ANYthing to keep his testimony out of open court. I think Leonard's purpose in bailing Casey out was every bit as much for the purpose of attaching himself to a sensational case as it was to "find Caylee".

Possibly the one thing that Padilla has to offer are her lies and changing stories. Maybe the S.A. wants to show how many times she changed her story and how uncaring she was to find her daughter. After all, the first thing she did when she got home was make a spaghetti dinner for Padilla's nephew instead of giving them details on the invisible nanny.

[JLette]

But surely they took a sociology or psychology class somewhere along the lines. That is where we have the biggest problem. They don't teach those things in psychology classes in college anymore and have not for a long time. You can not talk in a negative way to a child it will hurt their ego.:no:
They need to learn at an early age that they are NOT ALWAYS RIGHT and be taught to take responsibility for their actions.

Child pshchologist say it isn't right and we are and have been for a while raising a generation that refuses to admit they are wrong and take responsibility for their actions. I wonder if it will ever turn around or will be go back to the survival of the fittest. The strongest is the one who is right.:shrug:

ITA!!! my son will be 4 years old in September and he has been learning those harsh lessons since he hit the "terrible twos". if he is acting out he gets one warning to knock off the bad behavior, the next time he does it he gets sent to his room, if there is a third time he gets a "spanking" which in our house means he gets his little tush smacked with an open hand and gets put to bed until he is ready to behave. it doesn't usually get that far, usually just telling him to go to his room and making sure he is not back there playing with his toys is enough. and now he hardly ever acts out. we still have our bad days, but everyone has a bad day, he is by no means made to believe that he can do no wrong. in fact, now that i think about it, the only time he really acts out anymore is when he comes home from my mother's house where he is basically "the boss". what we tell him in those situations is "if you keep this up you don't get to go to grandma's house ever again!" and that is enough to put the kibash on bad behavior.

there is NO REASON to allow a child to think they run the world, they go through their phases where they are under the impression that they do, but a phase is just what it is. and you have to SHOW them what is right and wrong, or it is a phase they will never grow out of, as we have seen in this case

ETA: with the arrival of his baby brother looming on the horizon our son has matured quite a bit recently. i attribute this to the fact that we have been telling him throughout my pregnancy that as a "big brother" he is going to have more responsibility, he now cleans up his own toys before he gets to watch a movie, or tv etc. he doesn't get a snack if he doesn't eat his meals, AND we even got him his own pets to take care of in the house. i bought him two parakeets and it is HIS responsibility to feed them and clean their cage, i still give them their water but only until he is big enough to reach the kitchen sink. he has not missed one feeding since we bought them, and i attribute that to his growing maturity. i am all for encouragement and nurturing parenting, but that doesn't mean letting your child believe that they are the center of the world and everything they say do and think is absolutely right. JMO

[Gatordog]

Snipped for space...This IS modern society's way of RAISING their children. Just try to go to the school and support them for disciplinary action they may be trying to give your child. When you support them and enforce it at home, they look at you as if you've grown an eye in the center of your forehead! Why should that be the exception rather than the norm? By cracky, if you did the deed, you pay the consequences. That's the reason there are rules, regulations and laws to structure society. I believe, IMO, that if this had been applied to 'petite' Ms. Casey, then things may have turned out differently than they are today. Just my thoughts and opinions on child-rearing today.

Yes Wags. If everyone associated with the Liar was as concerned with her responsibility, morals and decency as they were with her petiteness or "gorgeous" face, Caylee might be alive. What good is a "10" when you are a zero as a person. Tens are temporary, she's not even a five anymore.

[Wagsy]

Yes Wags. If everyone associated with the Liar was as concerned with her responsibility, morals and decency as they were with her petiteness or "gorgeous" face, Caylee might be alive. What good is a "10" when you are a zero as a person. Tens are temporary, she's not even a five anymore.
What I don't understand, is how did Lee learn the lesson that he has to go out, earn a wage to buy the things he wants, etc? Is Liar the only one who was a princess...meaning there was not also a prince (Lee)? Raised those two children with two different sets of morals??? Or is it nature vs nurture? I'm not in any way a psychologist as you can see. I end up with more questions than I do answers. Anyone? JMO's.

[JLette]

What I don't understand, is how did Lee learn the lesson that he has to go out, earn a wage to buy the things he wants, etc? Is Liar the only one who was a princess...meaning there was not also a prince (Lee)? Raised those two children with two different sets of morals??? Or is it nature vs nurture? I'm not in any way a psychologist as you can see. I end up with more questions than I do answers. Anyone? JMO's.

perhaps lee was just taught better as he is male and must learn to provide. maybe cyndi's theory is teach the boy to be a man and teach the girl to FIND a man to take care of her. :shrug:

[lorettalockhorn]

perhaps lee was just taught better as he is male and must learn to provide. maybe cyndi's theory is teach the boy to be a man and teach the girl to FIND a man to take care of her. :shrug:

Hayell, from all accounts, Cindy flunked that lesson herself. ;)

[JLette]

Hayell, from all accounts, Cindy flunked that lesson herself. ;)

LMAO which is exactly why she wanted to make HER special little princess a "10" IMO :biggrin:

ETA: i have been wondering for a while now where Cyndi gets her child rearing philosophies. obviously not from gramma Shirley, that lady don't seem like she would put up with crap like that

[SaraSidle]

ITA!!! my son will be 4 years old in September and he has been learning those harsh lessons since he hit the "terrible twos". if he is acting out he gets one warning to knock off the bad behavior, the next time he does it he gets sent to his room, if there is a third time he gets a "spanking" which in our house means he gets his little tush smacked with an open hand and gets put to bed until he is ready to behave. it doesn't usually get that far, usually just telling him to go to his room and making sure he is not back there playing with his toys is enough. and now he hardly ever acts out. we still have our bad days, but everyone has a bad day, he is by no means made to believe that he can do no wrong. in fact, now that i think about it, the only time he really acts out anymore is when he comes home from my mother's house where he is basically "the boss". what we tell him in those situations is "if you keep this up you don't get to go to grandma's house ever again!" and that is enough to put the kibash on bad behavior.

there is NO REASON to allow a child to think they run the world, they go through their phases where they are under the impression that they do, but a phase is just what it is. and you have to SHOW them what is right and wrong, or it is a phase they will never grow out of, as we have seen in this case

ETA: with the arrival of his baby brother looming on the horizon our son has matured quite a bit recently. i attribute this to the fact that we have been telling him throughout my pregnancy that as a "big brother" he is going to have more responsibility, he now cleans up his own toys before he gets to watch a movie, or tv etc. he doesn't get a snack if he doesn't eat his meals, AND we even got him his own pets to take care of in the house. i bought him two parakeets and it is HIS responsibility to feed them and clean their cage, i still give them their water but only until he is big enough to reach the kitchen sink. he has not missed one feeding since we bought them, and i attribute that to his growing maturity. i am all for encouragement and nurturing parenting, but that doesn't mean letting your child believe that they are the center of the world and everything they say do and think is absolutely right. JMO

Wow Jlette. You must be awful proud of your son. That is remarkable for a three year old........If I had kids that is probably what I would aim for. I was that way with my niece which was hard since her mother gave her anything she wanted. I think it helped a little. That is great to hear you are doing that. We need more parents like you.........sara

I wonder how Caylee would have turned up as an adult. It is such a tragedy we will never know.
IMO sara

[Amy]

Possibly he has heard things, and he can testify to the fact of hearing these things, that bozo does not want to see the light on day in court. You see, I really doubt that casey will ever see the stand. bozo will not call her, if he has anything bigger than a pea for a brain, and I don't think the prosecution can call her. I know she would not have to answer questions. Plead the fith.

He can say he heard "things" that Casey told them but neither side can ask him specific about the "things" if the person(s) who told him are still alive to testify. So, unless Casey really did talk to him @ all, there is nothing for him to testify about. IMO, it wouldn't even make sense to call him to the stand to say, "George or Cindy or Tracey told me"--but, again, why not just have that person get up and testify to the information and leave LP out of it? If that person wants to say s/he didn't say anything to LP, THEN they could call him up to testify that that person did talk to him. I don't know if, @ that point could he testify to what he was told.

[JLette]

Wow Jlette. You must be awful proud of your son. That is remarkable for a three year old........If I had kids that is probably what I would aim for. I was that way with my niece which was hard since her mother gave her anything she wanted. I think it helped a little. That is great to hear you are doing that. We need more parents like you.........sara

Thank you :biggrin: yes i am proud of my son to the point where it is almost offensive lol sometimes that kid just amazes me, and i know every mom says this so here is my turn .... I HAVE THE BESTEST KID IN THE WHOLE WORLD :biggrin:

[JLette]

He can say he heard "things" that Casey told them but neither side can ask him specific about the "things" if the person(s) who told him are still alive to testify. So, unless Casey really did talk to him @ all, there is nothing for him to testify about. IMO, it wouldn't even make sense to call him to the stand to say, "George or Cindy or Tracey told me"--but, again, why not just have that person get up and testify to the information and leave LP out of it? If that person wants to say s/he didn't say anything to LP, THEN they could call him up to testify that that person did talk to him. I don't know if, @ that point could he testify to what he was told.

well as we all know George and Cyndi have just as big a problem with the truth as their daughter does. maybe LP could testify to the facts of what was actually going on at the time he was around, and possibly to show that lying is a family affair with these people :shrug:

[Amy]

But surely they took a sociology or psychology class somewhere along the lines. That is where we have the biggest problem. They don't teach those things in psychology classes in college anymore and have not for a long time. You can not talk in a negative way to a child it will hurt their ego.:no:
They need to learn at an early age that they are NOT ALWAYS RIGHT and be taught to take responsibility for their actions.

Child pshchologist say it isn't right and we are and have been for a while raising a generation that refuses to admit they are wrong and take responsibility for their actions. I wonder if it will ever turn around or will be go back to the survival of the fittest. The strongest is the one who is right.:shrug:

I remember when one of the kids would spill the milk or have some sort of accident that would have to be cleaned up. Now, I never beat my kids, in fact, most folks tell me I should have spanked them a tad bit more than I did. But, they would wail like I was going to throw them against the wall or out w/the garbage. I would reassure them it was just an accident, and now we will clean it up, and they did help. As they got older, tho, they suddenly decided that, if it was an accident, then they shouldn't have to clean it up. Now, where the heck did THAT come from?

[deacon]

He can say he heard "things" that Casey told them but neither side can ask him specific about the "things" if the person(s) who told him are still alive to testify. So, unless Casey really did talk to him @ all, there is nothing for him to testify about. IMO, it wouldn't even make sense to call him to the stand to say, "George or Cindy or Tracey told me"--but, again, why not just have that person get up and testify to the information and leave LP out of it? If that person wants to say s/he didn't say anything to LP, THEN they could call him up to testify that that person did talk to him. I don't know if, @ that point could he testify to what he was told.

Don't know. He may be called after the lies begin?

[deacon]

Thank you :biggrin: yes i am proud of my son to the point where it is almost offensive lol sometimes that kid just amazes me, and i know every mom says this so here is my turn .... I HAVE THE BESTEST KID IN THE WHOLE WORLD :biggrin:

He sounds like a fine young man. One who will not to learn "life lessons" the hard way after the consequences are much larger.

[DrewBerry]

>>At the center of it all is the petite 23-year-old mother charged with killing her 2-year-old daughter, Caylee.

http://i2.tinypic.com/2d9rxmt.jpg

I caught that too, Loretta. Not so petite anymore since she's sitting on her ass all day eating pork rinds.
Definitely, not a 10!!!
DrewB

[DrewBerry]

Yes Wags. If everyone associated with the Liar was as concerned with her responsibility, morals and decency as they were with her petiteness or "gorgeous" face, Caylee might be alive. What good is a "10" when you are a zero as a person. Tens are temporary, she's not even a five anymore.

Excellent post, Gator!! :beer:
DrewB

[deacon]

I remember when one of the kids would spill the milk or have some sort of accident that would have to be cleaned up. Now, I never beat my kids, in fact, most folks tell me I should have spanked them a tad bit more than I did. But, they would wail like I was going to throw them against the wall or out w/the garbage. I would reassure them it was just an accident, and now we will clean it up, and they did help. As they got older, tho, they suddenly decided that, if it was an accident, then they shouldn't have to clean it up. Now, where the heck did THAT come from?

Now that is where people sometimes have a problem. It isn't about "beating" them. In fact I rarely ever had to spank my son and believe me there is a very large difference between a spanking and a beating. Beatings should NEVER happen and spankings should be sparse. AND NEVER WHILE YOU ARE ANGRY. It isn't about "pay back" it is about punishment. Too many people see it as "payback" and not discipline.

(I don't disagree with all psy. Doctors but I really have a problem with people who do not have children telling me how to raise them, they have no experience.)

[DrewBerry]

Hayell, from all accounts, Cindy flunked that lesson herself. ;)

Brother Lee may be a responsible, hardworking, guy but he's a liar and a showboat just like the rest of the Ants. I don't believe he cared that much about Caylee. If he did, why is he lying under oath to protect his princess sister? I have no respect for him. In fact, I think he's creepy.
JMO.
DrewB

[lorettalockhorn]

LMAO which is exactly why she wanted to make HER special little princess a "10" IMO :biggrin:

ETA: i have been wondering for a while now where Cyndi gets her child rearing philosophies. obviously not from gramma Shirley, that lady don't seem like she would put up with crap like that

I FLOVE Shirley! And her sister. And Al. Good, honest, sensible people.

[Wagsy]

Brother Lee may be a responsible, hardworking, guy but he's a liar and a showboat just like the rest of the Ants. I don't believe he cared that much about Caylee. If he did, why is he lying under oath to protect his princess sister? I have no respect for him. In fact, I think he's creepy.
JMO.
DrewB

I had noticed from past video clips or pictures where Caylee was being held by Lee that she really didn't care all that much for her uncle and/or he really isn't too great with children - doesn't know how to relate to them. He seems like someone who is 'sleazy' (my term for it) JMO This entire lying family was not a good influence on that poor child.

[lorettalockhorn]

well as we all know George and Cyndi have just as big a problem with the truth as their daughter does. maybe LP could testify to the facts of what was actually going on at the time he was around, and possibly to show that lying is a family affair with these people :shrug:

Good point. He did have plenty of observations early on about G&C as well as Casey.

[Wagsy]

Now that is where people sometimes have a problem. It isn't about "beating" them. In fact I rarely ever had to spank my son and believe me there is a very large difference between a spanking and a beating. Beatings should NEVER happen and spankings should be sparse. AND NEVER WHILE YOU ARE ANGRY. It isn't about "pay back" it is about punishment. Too many people see it as "payback" and not discipline.

(I don't disagree with all psy. Doctors but I really have a problem with people who do not have children telling me how to raise them, they have no experience.)
Excellent post. ITA

[Wagsy]

I FLOVE Shirley! And her sister. And Al. Good, honest, sensible people.

What happened to the apple/tree theory here? :confused:

[lorettalockhorn]

Brother Lee may be a responsible, hardworking, guy but he's a liar and a showboat just like the rest of the Ants. I don't believe he cared that much about Caylee. If he did, why is he lying under oath to protect his princess sister? I have no respect for him. In fact, I think he's creepy.
JMO.
DrewB

Yep. Wrist slurping CMA creepy. And since Cindy couldn't manage to catch a man who couldn't even bring home the bacon, I wonder just how successful and family man Lee is/will be. Hope he's had a role model other than Georgie.

[lorettalockhorn]

What happened to the apple/tree theory here? :confused:

Maybe it's one of those things that skips a generation in some cases. :shrug:

[deacon]

Brother Lee may be a responsible, hardworking, guy but he's a liar and a showboat just like the rest of the Ants. I don't believe he cared that much about Caylee. If he did, why is he lying under oath to protect his princess sister? I have no respect for him. In fact, I think he's creepy.
JMO.
DrewB

We really don't know whether he is responsible and hardworking or not. Just that he stays out of the news.:biggrin:

[deacon]

What happened to the apple/tree theory here? :confused:

Sometimes the apple rolls down a hill. :biggrin:

[samanthajane13]

"Yes Wags. If everyone associated with the Liar was as concerned with her responsibility, morals and decency as they were with her petiteness or "gorgeous" face, Caylee might be alive. What good is a "10" when you are a zero as a person. Tens are temporary, she's not even a five anymore."


To quote Judge Judy, "Beauty fades...STUPID IS FOREVER!"

:biggrin:

[Amy]

Sometimes the apple rolls down a hill. :biggrin:

:biggrin::D

[deacon]

"Yes Wags. If everyone associated with the Liar was as concerned with her responsibility, morals and decency as they were with her petiteness or "gorgeous" face, Caylee might be alive. What good is a "10" when you are a zero as a person. Tens are temporary, she's not even a five anymore."


To quote Judge Judy, "Beauty fades...STUPID IS FOREVER!"

:biggrin:

As a man, her face was never "gorgeous". More gargoleish. If that is a word. From here early photos, not a Fusion, she always hit me as a (say this in your best English accent) "garden utensil."

Edited to add: In the words of Ron White, "you can't fix stupid."

[Wagsy]

Sometimes the apple rolls down a hill. :biggrin:

And is rotten to the core before dropping? :D:beer:

[deacon]

And is rotten to the core before dropping? :D:beer:

Some do rot on the tree before falling.:biggrin:

[Wagsy]

As a man, her face was never "gorgeous". More gargoleish. If that is a word. From here early photos, not a Fusion, she always hit me as a (say this in your best English accent) "garden utensil."

Edited to add: In the words of Ron White, "you can't fix stupid."

So glad you're on here to give us a 'proper' perspective from the 'other' side (no offense meant - genuinely admire your posts!) Are you suggesting this:

http://i42.tinypic.com/2epnd4w.jpg :eek::eek::eek:

[deacon]

So glad you're on here to give us a 'proper' perspective from the 'other' side (no offense meant - genuinely admire your posts!) Are you suggesting this:

http://i42.tinypic.com/2epnd4w.jpg :eek::eek::eek:

I love it here and I understand "the other side" thing. Men and women think differently and if they do not talk about the differences that is when trouble starts. And yes, that would be the one I was talking about.

[Wagsy]

I love it here and I understand "the other side" thing. Men and women think differently and if they do not talk about the differences that is when trouble starts. And yes, that would be the one I was talking about.
You are so right! We do think very differently and that communication - which to me means talking about your differences and coming to a compromise on BOTH sides to a happy middle ground - is one of the majorly lacking things in marriages today. JMHO I've tried to teach that to my children in case they ever tie the knot. Do ya' think that should be a required course in school instead of sex ed? Whoops, OT.

[Gatordog]

What I don't understand, is how did Lee learn the lesson that he has to go out, earn a wage to buy the things he wants, etc? Is Liar the only one who was a princess...meaning there was not also a prince (Lee)? Raised those two children with two different sets of morals??? Or is it nature vs nurture? I'm not in any way a psychologist as you can see. I end up with more questions than I do answers. Anyone? JMO's.

Guess they didn't see Lee as a ten and thought he'd have to work his way through life.

[deacon]

You are so right! We do think very differently and that communication - which to me means talking about your differences and coming to a compromise on BOTH sides to a happy middle ground - is one of the majorly lacking things in marriages today. JMHO I've tried to teach that to my children in case they ever tie the knot. Do ya' think that should be a required course in school instead of sex ed? Whoops, OT.

They should teach communication of all types. Why they do not is beyound me but, I do see the need for sex ed too. Too many parents are either too ashamed or too lazy to do it so someone has to tell them about it. We sure don't need as much experimentation as we have now.:eek:

[Gatordog]

He can say he heard "things" that Casey told them but neither side can ask him specific about the "things" if the person(s) who told him are still alive to testify. So, unless Casey really did talk to him @ all, there is nothing for him to testify about. IMO, it wouldn't even make sense to call him to the stand to say, "George or Cindy or Tracey told me"--but, again, why not just have that person get up and testify to the information and leave LP out of it? If that person wants to say s/he didn't say anything to LP, THEN they could call him up to testify that that person did talk to him. I don't know if, @ that point could he testify to what he was told.

Perhaps he can be used on rebuttal to impeach witnesses like G & C.

[Gatordog]

As a man, her face was never "gorgeous". More gargoleish. If that is a word. From here early photos, not a Fusion, she always hit me as a (say this in your best English accent) "garden utensil."

Edited to add: In the words of Ron White, "you can't fix stupid."

That's the truth. I still can't believe George calling her "hi gorgeous" when she was in jail. If I had ever been in jail, I can guarantee you my father would have a lot of words to say and not one would have been pleasant.

[Gatordog]

Brother Lee may be a responsible, hardworking, guy but he's a liar and a showboat just like the rest of the Ants. I don't believe he cared that much about Caylee. If he did, why is he lying under oath to protect his princess sister? I have no respect for him. In fact, I think he's creepy.
JMO.
DrewB

You're right on the money with that one. :beer: Let's not forget that wrist slobbering moment at the memorial.

Gator

[Gatordog]

What happened to the apple/tree theory here? :confused:

I guess some trees are grafted. :D

[Wagsy]

I guess some trees are grafted. :D

Boy! What combination did they use to make this one??? :punch: Hope I never find out that I'm even distantly related. What's the saying..."You can pick your friends but you can't pick your family". :biggrin:

[deacon]

That's the truth. I still can't believe George calling her "hi gorgeous" when she was in jail. If I had ever been in jail, I can guarantee you my father would have a lot of words to say and not one would have been pleasant.

10-4, mine either.

[BeastofBears]

What I don't understand, is how did Lee learn the lesson that he has to go out, earn a wage to buy the things he wants, etc? Is Liar the only one who was a princess...meaning there was not also a prince (Lee)? Raised those two children with two different sets of morals??? Or is it nature vs nurture? I'm not in any way a psychologist as you can see. I end up with more questions than I do answers. Anyone? JMO's.

I think it is a combination of the two. We all have certain personality traits that we are born with, but if they are not nurtured, we never display them. And siblings don't necessarily inherit all the same personality traits because they get different combination of genes from their parents. jmo.

[BeastofBears]

LMAO which is exactly why she wanted to make HER special little princess a "10" IMO :biggrin:

ETA: i have been wondering for a while now where Cyndi gets her child rearing philosophies. obviously not from gramma Shirley, that lady don't seem like she would put up with crap like that

Let's just say, college has ruined a lot of people's natural good sense, imo.

[BeastofBears]

Thank you :biggrin: yes i am proud of my son to the point where it is almost offensive lol sometimes that kid just amazes me, and i know every mom says this so here is my turn .... I HAVE THE BESTEST KID IN THE WHOLE WORLD :biggrin:

*ahem*


okay, I'll let you have your turn, but tomorrow's mine:biggrin:

[BeastofBears]

Guess they didn't see Lee as a ten and thought he'd have to work his way through life.

"Your face is your fortune, Lee. Best get a job!"

lol! I'm kidding. I think he is the better looking of the two, not that it matters a whit. Or a wit, for that matter.


eta: I hate playing catch-up and realizing that I have posted 4 in a row!

[deacon]

"Your face is your fortune, Lee. Best get a job!"

lol! I'm kidding. I think he is the better looking of the two, not that it matters a whit. Or a wit, for that matter.


eta: I hate playing catch-up and realizing that I have posted 4 in a row!

Me too. I'll break it up.:seeya:

[DrewBerry]

Yep. Wrist slurping CMA creepy. And since Cindy couldn't manage to catch a man who couldn't even bring home the bacon, I wonder just how successful and family man Lee is/will be. Hope he's had a role model other than Georgie.

Oh, Loretta, you always say it best: Wrist Slurper, he is, indeed! Creepy.
And Deacon is right. We don't really know if Brother Dear is responsible and hardworking. From what I've read, Shirley and her family didn't think much of Georgie, either.
DrewB

[lorettalockhorn]

Oh, Loretta, you always say it best: Wrist Slurper, he is, indeed! Creepy.
And Deacon is right. We don't really know if Brother Dear is responsible and hardworking. From what I've read, Shirley and her family didn't think much of Georgie, either.
DrewB

Did you not just love those emails between Shirley and her sister? (Sorry, I've forgotten her name, and she was a neat sounding lady. Loved that she signed her name with her pet's.). They truly disdained George and unintentionally pointed out how greedy Cindy is. I mean, if George had been the breadwinner, plenty of folks would think it's A-OK for Cindy to end up with half of everything.

Okay. I'm LMAO imagining Lee with a hicky on his wrist. :hat:

[beemer]

Ahhhhh a wrist hickey LMAO. I luved those emails they were so cute. You just reminded me of the audio LE interview with Shirley after that storm. Remember? I think she thought something was burning and LE was so kind to help her out. Shirley gets it. I would luv to hear what Shirley has to say about C. C's brother i believe its Rick was a hoot to in the emails. Stand up guy. Luved it when he emailed C and told her she was nuts-several times.

[DrewBerry]

Did you not just love those emails between Shirley and her sister? (Sorry, I've forgotten her name, and she was a neat sounding lady. Loved that she signed her name with her pet's.). They truly disdained George and unintentionally pointed out how greedy Cindy is. I mean, if George had been the breadwinner, plenty of folks would think it's A-OK for Cindy to end up with half of everything.

Okay. I'm LMAO imagining Lee with a hicky on his wrist. :hat:

Yes. LOVED those e-mails! Especially the ones from Rick and Shirley. Very telling. That was some gooooood readin'!!!
DrewB

[DrewBerry]

Ahhhhh a wrist hickey LMAO. I luved those emails they were so cute. You just reminded me of the audio LE interview with Shirley after that storm. Remember? I think she thought something was burning and LE was so kind to help her out. Shirley gets it. I would luv to hear what Shirley has to say about C. C's brother i believe its Rick was a hoot to in the emails. Stand up guy. Luved it when he emailed C and told her she was nuts-several times.

Hey Beemer! LMAO too. That idiot sucking on his wrist. That memorial was such a farce, wasn't it? That fam-damly doesn't think the majority of our society can see right through them and their lies! They have no clue how insane they come across to the average person.
Yeah, I loved the e-mail where brother Rick told her she was nuts and needs serious mental health care!! :D
DrewB

[beemer]

Hey drew :seeya: Did ya swing by the lounge yet for deepy's birthday? Stop in for a cocktail :beer:

[lorettalockhorn]

Ahhhhh a wrist hickey LMAO. I luved those emails they were so cute. You just reminded me of the audio LE interview with Shirley after that storm. Remember? I think she thought something was burning and LE was so kind to help her out. Shirley gets it. I would luv to hear what Shirley has to say about C. C's brother i believe its Rick was a hoot to in the emails. Stand up guy. Luved it when he emailed C and told her she was nuts-several times.

I just think Shirley is as cute as she can be, and she strikes me as very honest. That interview with her was so telling about her and the teks too.

I think her sister is MaryLou? And her doggie is Shadow?

Can you imagine what it must be like for S Plesea to live without Al in her home? My heart goes out to her. And here Casey comes along and rips him/them off. B!tch.:cuss:

[SaraSidle]

Me too. I'll break it up.:seeya:

me too. I will help Deacon

[Gatordog]

WFTV had a small piece this morning regarding the letter from Bank Of America acknowledging repayment of the funds stolen from Amy. They said th letter was dated just last week. My guess is that Cryin Lyon must have instructed Baez that the money should be paid back to reimburse the bank. It's dated one year to the date of the Liar's reappearance.

Gator

[BeastofBears]

WFTV had a small piece this morning regarding the letter from Bank Of America acknowledging repayment of the funds stolen from Amy. They said th letter was dated just last week. My guess is that Cryin Lyon must have instructed Baez that the money should be paid back to reimburse the bank. It's dated one year to the date of the Liar's reappearance.

Gator

Why on EARTH wasn't this taken care of sooner? Isn't a basic lawyer job to set up as many mitigating circumstances as possible in the unlikely *snork* event of a conviction?!

[Nawny]

Why on EARTH wasn't this taken care of sooner? Isn't a basic lawyer job to set up as many mitigating circumstances as possible in the unlikely *snork* event of a conviction?!

It looks like all the A's are sleeping with the enemy. I'm thinking way way deep inside Baez wants to make Kentucky Fried Chicken out of the skanky liar. He can't do more damage to her case, but he's trying like hell.

[Gatordog]

It looks like all the A's are sleeping with the enemy. I'm thinking way way deep inside Baez wants to make Kentucky Fried Chicken out of the skanky liar. He can't do more damage to her case, but he's trying like hell.

God's honest truth - any one of us could could represent the Liar better than her attorney. None of us would - but we couldn't do any worse than he is doing. http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-think004.gif (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php)

Gator

[SaraSidle]

God's honest truth - any one of us could could represent the Liar better than her attorney. None of us would - but we couldn't do any worse than he is doing. http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-think004.gif (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php)

Gator

Excellent post Gator. ITA

sara

[Nawny]

The A's are too quiet. Something tells me the new addition to the defense team is making headway with the showoff's. Or, Cindy is on some good meds. Or perhaps duct tape. ???

I doubt there is any possibility for damage control. The deeds are done and can't be retrofitted to make that family look good. IMO. The fiddler will be paid aye? There is still a dead child no matter what any of them do, and that is horrific. It saddens us all to know the nanny is no where to be found or that there is no other killer hiding in the trees. The saddest part of the whole saga is that dynamic within the family. Mother hates daughter, daughter hates mother, baby pays.

The most sickening thing in all of this is, the Grinch herself has "no regrets." And, if she comes out of hiding with a new persona, it will be worthless. She'd be better off dancing the mea culpa, but that will never happen, even with some good coaching. I do hope she at least loses the damn gum.

The record shows, she took the lead in -stuck on stupid-

[Gatordog]

Finally!! Some news..... http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-happy107.gif (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php)


http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/caylee-anthony/orl-bk-casey-anthony-case-hearing-072309,0,3645760.story

Seeking info in Casey Anthony case, State Attorney to haul George and Cindy Anthony back to court

George and Cindy Anthony are going back to court.

The State Attorney's office will ask Orange Circuit Judge Stan Strickland to force the Anthonys to produce information for the state's case against their daughter, Casey Anthony, according to spokespersons for the State Attorney's office and the court.

A hearing is set for 1:30 p.m. Friday.

The Anthonys have been asked to produce information for the state but have not done so, the spokespersons said.

The State Attorney's Office would not say today what information it was seeking from the couple.

Casey Anthony is being held in the Orange County Jail under an indictment for first-degree murder in the death of daughter Caylee Marie Anthony. The state is seeking the death penalty in the case.

Casey Anthony will not attend Friday's hearing.

Check back for updates.

[deacon]

Finally!! Some news..... http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-happy107.gif (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php)


http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/caylee-anthony/orl-bk-casey-anthony-case-hearing-072309,0,3645760.story

Seeking info in Casey Anthony case, State Attorney to haul George and Cindy Anthony back to court

George and Cindy Anthony are going back to court.

The State Attorney's office will ask Orange Circuit Judge Stan Strickland to force the Anthonys to produce information for the state's case against their daughter, Casey Anthony, according to spokespersons for the State Attorney's office and the court.

A hearing is set for 1:30 p.m. Friday.

The Anthonys have been asked to produce information for the state but have not done so, the spokespersons said.

The State Attorney's Office would not say today what information it was seeking from the couple.

Casey Anthony is being held in the Orange County Jail under an indictment for first-degree murder in the death of daughter Caylee Marie Anthony. The state is seeking the death penalty in the case.

Casey Anthony will not attend Friday's hearing.

Check back for updates.

They seem to be getting backed into a corner from hence there is no escape.:beer:

[lorettalockhorn]

Finally!! Some news..... http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-happy107.gif (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php)


Thanks for the link!

Can't wait to see if the Grinch is still smacking her mouth and glaring at the world. Let's hope she has gained some dignity since we've last seen her.

[Wagsy]

[QUOTE=Gatordog]Finally!! Some news..... http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-happy107.gif (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php)


Thanks for the news. Tomorrow can't come soon enough. Whatever they're seeking from the A's, I hope it won't be 'compromised' by the time it reaches them!

[Wagsy]

Thanks for the link!

Can't wait to see if the Grinch is still smacking her mouth and glaring at the world. Let's hope she has gained some dignity since we've last seen her.
I hope the dignity (if she's gained any) doesn't go down the drain the moment she realizes cameras are turned on her.

[Wagsy]

Sarah Lundy and Amy L. Edwards Sentinel Staff Writers

4:12 PM EDT, July 23, 2009



George and Cindy Anthony may be back in court.

The State Attorney's office is slated to ask Orange Circuit Judge Stan Strickland to force the Anthonys to produce information for the state's case against their daughter, Casey Anthony, according to spokespersons for the State Attorney's office and the court.

A hearing is set for 1:30 p.m. Friday.



The Anthonys have been asked to produce information for the state but have not done so, the spokespersons said.

Brad Conway, lawyer for George and Cindy Anthony, said the couple simply hasn't been able to provide the documents in the time frame prosecutors wanted.

"The Anthonys have no problem providing the documentation the state has requested," Conway said.

Conway said the Anthonys are going to give the documents to prosecutors and he does not expect there to even be a hearing on the matter tomorrow.

"We're in the process of turning them over," he said.

It's unclear what the documents entail. Conway, reached by phone this afternoon, wouldn't give any clues.

"I can't say," he said. "It's not something that I can comment on."

The State Attorney's Office also wouldn't say.

Casey Anthony is being held in the Orange County Jail under an indictment for first-degree murder in the death of daughter Caylee Marie Anthony. The state is seeking the death penalty in the case.

Casey Anthony will not attend Friday's hearing.

Check back for updates.


_______________________

Noticed it now says "may be" in court. Guess they're trying to comply before being forced by the judge. Maybe they realize he isn't sympathetic that they are grieving grandparents and they would have to turn this information over anyway. Hope it's all there and what the S.A.'s office is looking for and not a half-put-together thingy that G & C see as sufficient. JMO's!

[lorettalockhorn]

>>the couple simply hasn't been able to provide the documents in the time frame prosecutors wanted.

Yep, it's hard to dig up documents when you're busy ASWing yourself all over the place in order to lie and dishonor your granddaughter. You know, Cindy. The one "this happened to".

Oh, and of course there's all the time Cindy spent memorizing the document page numberso she could make an ass of herself on the thing at the Morgan deposition. :rolleyes:

[Wagsy]

>>the couple simply hasn't been able to provide the documents in the time frame prosecutors wanted.

Yep, it's hard to dig up documents when you're busy ASWing yourself all over the place in order to lie and dishonor your granddaughter. You know, Cindy. The one "this happened to".

Oh, and of course there's all the time Cindy spent memorizing the document page numberso she could make an ass of herself on the thing at the Morgan deposition. :rolleyes:

I took a minute and jumped over to the 'anything' thread and ended up posting for the first time in there. Anyway, back to the topic...I was going to highlight and comment on the exact same part but you caught it too fast! I thought that was hilarious "the couple simply hasn't been able to provide the documents in the time frame prosecutors wanted". I guess, the prosecutors were being 'mean' and wanted it yesterday. HHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAA. IMO, this was just another form of denial and trying to delay the inevitable. Maybe they thought if they ignored it long enough, it would just go away and wouldn't be caught.

[JLette]

I took a minute and jumped over to the 'anything' thread and ended up posting for the first time in there. Anyway, back to the topic...I was going to highlight and comment on the exact same part but you caught it too fast! I thought that was hilarious "the couple simply hasn't been able to provide the documents in the time frame prosecutors wanted". I guess, the prosecutors were being 'mean' and wanted it yesterday. HHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAA. IMO, this was just another form of denial and trying to delay the inevitable. Maybe they thought if they ignored it long enough, it would just go away and wouldn't be caught.

HA! seems like a trend with THIS family

[Wagsy]

HA! seems like a trend with THIS family

Trend? I'm beginning to think it's just a way of life for them. Certainly seemed to pass that lesson on to 'princess' or else she picked it up from watching them as role models. :hat:

[beemer]

I luv it-finally having to be accountable :beer: I wonder how they like being told what to do-especially C. Gawd what i would give to be a fly on the wall in that house. Wow sounds like the Ants have been busy-too busy to look up documents :shrug: We all know they aint out looking for dead kids who walk on water:eek:

[Wagsy]

I luv it-finally having to be accountable :beer: I wonder how they like being told what to do-especially C. Gawd what i would give to be a fly on the wall in that house. Wow sounds like the Ants have been busy-too busy to look up documents :shrug: We all know they aint out looking for dead kids who walk on water:eek:
Too funny beemer! I don't know if I agree with you about wanting to be a fly on the wall in that house - you might come to harm before you could bring back info to post here! Has that boat or quad ever been used yet for the reasons they were purchased for?

[Gatordog]

>>the couple simply hasn't been able to provide the documents in the time frame prosecutors wanted.

Yep, it's hard to dig up documents when you're busy ASWing yourself all over the place in order to lie and dishonor your granddaughter. You know, Cindy. The one "this happened to".

Oh, and of course there's all the time Cindy spent memorizing the document page numberso she could make an ass of herself on the thing at the Morgan deposition. :rolleyes:

And LE better check it over carefully - remember the hair brush and the comment that she should have given LE the dog's tooth brush. Nice, real nice. I'm putting my money on Strickland having had enough of this family. Perhaps a contempt f court charge is in order. :D

gator

[deacon]

Too funny beemer! I don't know if I agree with you about wanting to be a fly on the wall in that house - you might come to harm before you could bring back info to post here! Has that boat or quad ever been used yet for the reasons they were purchased for?

Short answer, no. TES could really use that boat. With the sonar that it has you could cover a lot of water in a hurry.

[deacon]

And LE better check it over carefully - remember the hair brush and the comment that she should have given LE the dog's tooth brush. Nice, real nice. I'm putting my money on Strickland having had enough of this family. Perhaps a contempt f court charge is in order. :D

gator

Oh, I am sure they know allllll about that and will be looking at this stuff berry, berry carefully.

And they can not take the Schultz defense.










I know nothink

[beemer]

Too funny beemer! I don't know if I agree with you about wanting to be a fly on the wall in that house - you might come to harm before you could bring back info to post here! Has that boat or quad ever been used yet for the reasons they were purchased for?

Your prolly right Wagsy-I would get gobsmacked by C:beer: The only time we saw it out was in a pic for a maiden voyage-oh yeah right-how many fish did they catch. C was prolly decked out in cruise wear. That boat is gonna get dry rot. I dont know how these people sleep at night :shrug:

[Wagsy]

Short answer, no. TES could really use that boat. With the sonar that it has you could cover a lot of water in a hurry.

Actually, they could use both items, IMO. But, I can't see any police department or other legit group contacting them and asking for use of their equipment either. :chicken: I would be :chicken:!!

[beemer]

Do you's not just wanna see C try and go there with Strickland? I would pay to see it.

[DrewBerry]

The A's are too quiet. Something tells me the new addition to the defense team is making headway with the showoff's. Or, Cindy is on some good meds. Or perhaps duct tape. ???

I doubt there is any possibility for damage control. The deeds are done and can't be retrofitted to make that family look good. IMO. The fiddler will be paid aye? There is still a dead child no matter what any of them do, and that is horrific. It saddens us all to know the nanny is no where to be found or that there is no other killer hiding in the trees. The saddest part of the whole saga is that dynamic within the family. Mother hates daughter, daughter hates mother, baby pays.

The most sickening thing in all of this is, the Grinch herself has "no regrets." And, if she comes out of hiding with a new persona, it will be worthless. She'd be better off dancing the mea culpa, but that will never happen, even with some good coaching. I do hope she at least loses the damn gum.

The record shows, she took the lead in -stuck on stupid-

HA HA! Agree with ya, Nawny. Stuck on Stupid is probably stocking up on plenty of gum for the next hearing when she can, again, make
anassofherselfonthething. Chomp, chomp, snap, snap. :biggrin:
DrewB

[DrewBerry]

Thanks for the link!

Can't wait to see if the Grinch is still smacking her mouth and glaring at the world. Let's hope she has gained some dignity since we've last seen her.

Hi Loretta. I'm afraid dignity and the Grinch are strangers.
I'm not betting on it especially when she starts chompin' on that damn gum!
DrewB

[Wagsy]

And LE better check it over carefully - remember the hair brush and the comment that she should have given LE the dog's tooth brush. Nice, real nice. I'm putting my money on Strickland having had enough of this family. Perhaps a contempt f court charge is in order. :D

gator

Maybe Brad advised them there might be more discipline than just an order to hand over the information, so that's why they're trying to get it in just under the wire! :)

Your prolly right Wagsy-I would get gobsmacked by C:beer: The only time we saw it out was in a pic for a maiden voyage-oh yeah right-how many fish did they catch. C was prolly decked out in cruise wear. That boat is gonna get dry rot. I dont know how these people sleep at night :shrug:

Oh, you're wondering how they sleep at night; well, there are no more protesters keeping them awake, both vehicles/the boat/the quad are all spiffily washed during daylight hours so that is exhausting. Then there is the required travel and TV appearances to proclaim Liar's innocence not to mention the exhausting court appearances and depositions closer to home. I mean, hey, they have so much to do during this denial stage that they MUST sleep at night from all that hard work!!! :D :tongue: Oh...me bad! :punch:

[beemer]

Hi Loretta. I'm afraid dignity and the Grinch are strangers.
I'm not betting on it especially when she starts chompin' on that damn gum!
DrewB
Hey Drew:seeya: I hope she does cuz i think Strickland will put her in her place. I think their time is up running the show :biggrin:

[DrewBerry]

Your prolly right Wagsy-I would get gobsmacked by C:beer: The only time we saw it out was in a pic for a maiden voyage-oh yeah right-how many fish did they catch. C was prolly decked out in cruise wear. That boat is gonna get dry rot. I dont know how these people sleep at night :shrug:


Very funny, Beemer! The image of the Grinch in her cruise wear and Georgie in his Captain's hat just put me into hysterics! Can you imagine those two "A" holes out there in that damn boat?! :biggrin:
DrewB

[deacon]

Maybe Brad advised them there might be more discipline than just an order to hand over the information, so that's why they're trying to get it in just under the wire! :)



Oh, you're wondering how they sleep at night; well, there are no more protesters keeping them awake, both vehicles/the boat/the quad are all spiffily washed during daylight hours so that is exhausting. Then there is the required travel and TV appearances to proclaim Liar's innocence not to mention the exhausting court appearances and depositions closer to home. I mean, hey, they have so much to do during this denial stage that they MUST sleep at night from all that hard work!!! :D :tongue: Oh...me bad! :punch:

Not really. They invite those type of feelings about them by their actions.

[Wagsy]

http://www.clickorlando.com/news/20157753/detail.html


State Wants Documents From Anthonys
Prosecution Could Seek To Hold Caylee's Grandparents In Contempt

POSTED: Thursday, July 23, 2009
UPDATED: 7:08 pm EDT July 23, 2009
ORLANDO, Fla. -- A hearing will be held on Friday to discuss documents the state attorney has subpoenaed from George and Cindy Anthony, but have not received.

VIDEO: Lawyer Promises Documents

The Anthony's attorney, Brad Conway, said the subpoena for the documents was issued a few weeks ago. Conway said the prosecution apparently wanted the documents more quickly, but he plans to hand over the documents Friday morning.

The state could ask a judge to hold the Anthonys in contempt of court for failing to turn over the documents.

It is not known what information the documents contain or why the state wants them, but the judge has ordered the hearing to consider the matter.

Conway said he does not believe the hearing will be necessary because he plans to hand over the documents Friday morning.

Conway said the Anthonys have no problem producing the documents, and this is just a dispute over timing. He said he is preoccupied with other clients and the Anthonys have had a hard time producing the documents because their computer has been down.

Conway said he is working with the state to resolve the issue.

This request from the prosecution comes one week after defense lawyers for the Anthonys daughter, Casey Anthony, launched an attempt to get all statements made by bounty hunter Leonard Padilla and his associates thrown out of court.

Padilla and his team bonded Casey Anthony out of jail and spent time with her last summer. The defense said Padilla signed a contract not to disclose any information about her.

It is unclear if the documents the prosecution has requested are related to Padilla or another matter.

Casey Anthony is charged with first-degree murder in the death of her 2-year-old daughter, Caylee Anthony. Caylee was reported missing in July 2008 and her remains were found in December.

__________________

You may get your wish yet, Gator. :)

[Wagsy]

[QUOTE=Wagsy;9205772]http://www.clickorlando.com/news/20157753/detail.html


State Wants Documents From Anthonys
Prosecution Could Seek To Hold Caylee's Grandparents In Contempt


Conway said the Anthonys have no problem producing the documents, and this is just a dispute over timing. He said he is preoccupied with other clients and the Anthonys have had a hard time producing the documents because their computer has been down.

Conway said he is working with the state to resolve the issue.

This request from the prosecution comes one week after defense lawyers for the Anthonys daughter, Casey Anthony, launched an attempt to get all statements made by bounty hunter Leonard Padilla and his associates thrown out of court.

Padilla and his team bonded Casey Anthony out of jail and spent time with her last summer. The defense said Padilla signed a contract not to disclose any information about her.

It is unclear if the documents the prosecution has requested are related to Padilla or another matter.

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*snip* This paragraph contradicts itself: "the Anthonys have no problem producing the documents" then "the Anthonys have had a hard time producing the documents because their computer has been down" What's the correct story on this? :shrug:

[DrewBerry]

[QUOTE=Wagsy;9205772]http://www.clickorlando.com/news/20157753/detail.html


State Wants Documents From Anthonys
Prosecution Could Seek To Hold Caylee's Grandparents In Contempt


Conway said the Anthonys have no problem producing the documents, and this is just a dispute over timing. He said he is preoccupied with other clients and the Anthonys have had a hard time producing the documents because their computer has been down.

Conway said he is working with the state to resolve the issue.

This request from the prosecution comes one week after defense lawyers for the Anthonys daughter, Casey Anthony, launched an attempt to get all statements made by bounty hunter Leonard Padilla and his associates thrown out of court.

Padilla and his team bonded Casey Anthony out of jail and spent time with her last summer. The defense said Padilla signed a contract not to disclose any information about her.

It is unclear if the documents the prosecution has requested are related to Padilla or another matter.

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*snip* This paragraph contradicts itself: "the Anthonys have no problem producing the documents" then "the Anthonys have had a hard time producing the documents because their computer has been down" What's the correct story on this? :shrug:

Dear Mr. Prosecutor: DO IT!

[DrewBerry]

Hey Drew:seeya: I hope she does cuz i think Strickland will put her in her place. I think their time is up running the show :biggrin:

Beemer. . .:seeya: Where r u?

DrewB

[lorettalockhorn]

Too funny beemer! I don't know if I agree with you about wanting to be a fly on the wall in that house - you might come to harm before you could bring back info to post here! Has that boat or quad ever been used yet for the reasons they were purchased for?

BREAKING NEWS!!!!!!!

Dateline: Orlando

Flies committing suicide on the increase at Hopesprings Drive!

[beemer]

Beemer. . .:seeya: Where r u?

DrewB
I'm still here-on the phone actually LOL :seeya:

[DrewBerry]

I'm still here-on the phone actually LOL :seeya:

You're too funny, lady. I have to work tomorrow and will miss the possible
action. Just want to make sure you can provide updates?! Thanks! :seeya:
DrewB

[lorettalockhorn]

Hi Loretta. I'm afraid dignity and the Grinch are strangers.
I'm not betting on it especially when she starts chompin' on that damn gum!
DrewB

Hey Drew! :seeya:

At some point either Conway is going to have to school Cindy on courtroom decorum, or the bailiff or Strickland will.

[deacon]

[QUOTE=Wagsy;9205772]http://www.clickorlando.com/news/20157753/detail.html


State Wants Documents From Anthonys
Prosecution Could Seek To Hold Caylee's Grandparents In Contempt


Conway said the Anthonys have no problem producing the documents, and this is just a dispute over timing. He said he is preoccupied with other clients and the Anthonys have had a hard time producing the documents because their computer has been down.

Conway said he is working with the state to resolve the issue.

This request from the prosecution comes one week after defense lawyers for the Anthonys daughter, Casey Anthony, launched an attempt to get all statements made by bounty hunter Leonard Padilla and his associates thrown out of court.

Padilla and his team bonded Casey Anthony out of jail and spent time with her last summer. The defense said Padilla signed a contract not to disclose any information about her.

It is unclear if the documents the prosecution has requested are related to Padilla or another matter.

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*snip* This paragraph contradicts itself: "the Anthonys have no problem producing the documents" then "the Anthonys have had a hard time producing the documents because their computer has been down" What's the correct story on this? :shrug:

Lawyer speak for we are going to stall as long as we can.

In the words of Yogi Berra "it's dejavu all over again."

[DrewBerry]

BREAKING NEWS!!!!!!!

Dateline: Orlando

Flies committing suicide on the increase at Hopesprings Drive!

HA! HA! Good one, L. :D

[samanthajane13]

"This paragraph contradicts itself: "the Anthonys have no problem producing the documents" then "the Anthonys have had a hard time producing the documents because their computer has been down" What's the correct story on this?"

I have no idea what the REAL story is, but I think it REALLY means that the A's are having their hard-drive reformatted, and all the documents are going to mysteriously go *POOF*.

I hope they DO get the contempt charge slapped on them if they pull that!!!

[deacon]

"This paragraph contradicts itself: "the Anthonys have no problem producing the documents" then "the Anthonys have had a hard time producing the documents because their computer has been down" What's the correct story on this?"

I have no idea what the REAL story is, but I think it REALLY means that the A's are having their hard-drive reformatted, and all the documents are going to mysteriously go *POOF*.

I hope they DO get the contempt charge slapped on them if they pull that!!!

If they make them turn over the hard drive, which they can, those files are still there. The only way to really get rid of files on a hard drive is with a hammer. Can you imagine the charges if they get cuaght trying to destroy evidence?

[beemer]

BREAKING NEWS!!!!!!!

Dateline: Orlando

Flies committing suicide on the increase at Hopesprings Drive!

Haaaaaa way too funny :biggrin: I take my comment back re: being a fly on the wall :eek:

[beemer]

Very funny, Beemer! The image of the Grinch in her cruise wear and Georgie in his Captain's hat just put me into hysterics! Can you imagine those two "A" holes out there in that damn boat?! :biggrin:
DrewB
Quite frankly Drew for some reason i picture them on a deserted desert Isle :D I am in and out tomorrow but I/somebody will do updates. We is hungry here for somethin to sink our teeth into :beer:

[beemer]

"This paragraph contradicts itself: "the Anthonys have no problem producing the documents" then "the Anthonys have had a hard time producing the documents because their computer has been down" What's the correct story on this?"

I have no idea what the REAL story is, but I think it REALLY means that the A's are having their hard-drive reformatted, and all the documents are going to mysteriously go *POOF*.

I hope they DO get the contempt charge slapped on them if they pull that!!!
Oh Yayus-move over Liar cuz Mom and Dad are moving in :D:beer:

[lorettalockhorn]

"This paragraph contradicts itself: "the Anthonys have no problem producing the documents" then "the Anthonys have had a hard time producing the documents because their computer has been down" What's the correct story on this?"

I have no idea what the REAL story is, but I think it REALLY means that the A's are having their hard-drive reformatted, and all the documents are going to mysteriously go *POOF*.

I hope they DO get the contempt charge slapped on them if they pull that!!!

Surely the arrogAnts aren't that stupid.

You do have to wonder what information G&C have that the prosecution wants that only exists on their computer and not on paper.

[samanthajane13]

"If they make them turn over the hard drive, which they can, those files are still there. The only way to really get rid of files on a hard drive is with a hammer. Can you imagine the charges if they get cuaght trying to destroy evidence?"

Hey Deacon-

My 'puter dude WIPED my drive. BLANK-BLOTTO!! Then he re-installed my OS.

And then there's a nifty little program I run called Window Washer...

Using Gutman bleaching, "Overwrites each deleted file 35 times using a different pattern each time. This overwrite process is based on a 1996 paper by Peter Gutmann, Department of Computer Science, University of Auckland."

Been using this little gem for YEARS.

What if the A's took the 'puter to a tech or ran something like Window Washer??

Wouldn't that put them in a whole new would of crap with the court???

[lorettalockhorn]

Oh Yayus-move over Liar cuz Mom and Dad are moving in :D:beer:

HAH! :hat:

[lorettalockhorn]

"If they make them turn over the hard drive, which they can, those files are still there. The only way to really get rid of files on a hard drive is with a hammer. Can you imagine the charges if they get cuaght trying to destroy evidence?"

Hey Deacon-

My 'puter dude WIPED my drive. BLANK-BLOTTO!! Then he re-installed my OS.

And then there's a nifty little program I run called Window Washer...

Using Gutman bleaching, "Overwrites each deleted file 35 times using a different pattern each time. This overwrite process is based on a 1996 paper by Peter Gutmann, Department of Computer Science, University of Auckland."

Been using this little gem for YEARS.

What if the A's took the 'puter to a tech or ran something like Window Washer??

Wouldn't that put them in a whole new would of crap with the court???

Didn't LE already look at all the Anthony computers? Or is this a new one? Isn't there already a record of their data?

[deacon]

"If they make them turn over the hard drive, which they can, those files are still there. The only way to really get rid of files on a hard drive is with a hammer. Can you imagine the charges if they get cuaght trying to destroy evidence?"

Hey Deacon-

My 'puter dude WIPED my drive. BLANK-BLOTTO!! Then he re-installed my OS.

And then there's a nifty little program I run called Window Washer...

Using Gutman bleaching, "Overwrites each deleted file 35 times using a different pattern each time. This overwrite process is based on a 1996 paper by Peter Gutmann, Department of Computer Science, University of Auckland."

Been using this little gem for YEARS.

What if the A's took the 'puter to a tech or ran something like Window Washer??

Wouldn't that put them in a whole new would of crap with the court???

Yep sure would. but if they have a program that does that then they also know how to defeat it. parts of those files will still be there. That is how they catch so many people who have illegal information on computers. If there is a program, then there is one out there to defeat it.

[Amy]

Finally!! Some news..... http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-happy107.gif (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php)


http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/caylee-anthony/orl-bk-casey-anthony-case-hearing-072309,0,3645760.story

Seeking info in Casey Anthony case, State Attorney to haul George and Cindy Anthony back to court

George and Cindy Anthony are going back to court.

The State Attorney's office will ask Orange Circuit Judge Stan Strickland to force the Anthonys to produce information for the state's case against their daughter, Casey Anthony, according to spokespersons for the State Attorney's office and the court.

A hearing is set for 1:30 p.m. Friday.

The Anthonys have been asked to produce information for the state but have not done so, the spokespersons said.

The State Attorney's Office would not say today what information it was seeking from the couple.

Casey Anthony is being held in the Orange County Jail under an indictment for first-degree murder in the death of daughter Caylee Marie Anthony. The state is seeking the death penalty in the case.

Casey Anthony will not attend Friday's hearing.

Check back for updates.

Maybe they are going to hit Cindy Anthony up for those telephone numbers and addresses she told Morgan she had for the nanny? :rolleyes:

[Amy]

Sarah Lundy and Amy L. Edwards Sentinel Staff Writers

4:12 PM EDT, July 23, 2009



George and Cindy Anthony may be back in court.

The State Attorney's office is slated to ask Orange Circuit Judge Stan Strickland to force the Anthonys to produce information for the state's case against their daughter, Casey Anthony, according to spokespersons for the State Attorney's office and the court.

A hearing is set for 1:30 p.m. Friday.



The Anthonys have been asked to produce information for the state but have not done so, the spokespersons said.

Brad Conway, lawyer for George and Cindy Anthony, said the couple simply hasn't been able to provide the documents in the time frame prosecutors wanted.

"The Anthonys have no problem providing the documentation the state has requested," Conway said.

Conway said the Anthonys are going to give the documents to prosecutors and he does not expect there to even be a hearing on the matter tomorrow.

"We're in the process of turning them over," he said.

It's unclear what the documents entail. Conway, reached by phone this afternoon, wouldn't give any clues.

"I can't say," he said. "It's not something that I can comment on."

The State Attorney's Office also wouldn't say.

Casey Anthony is being held in the Orange County Jail under an indictment for first-degree murder in the death of daughter Caylee Marie Anthony. The state is seeking the death penalty in the case.

Casey Anthony will not attend Friday's hearing.

Check back for updates.


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Noticed it now says "may be" in court. Guess they're trying to comply before being forced by the judge. Maybe they realize he isn't sympathetic that they are grieving grandparents and they would have to turn this information over anyway. Hope it's all there and what the S.A.'s office is looking for and not a half-put-together thingy that G & C see as sufficient. JMO's!

Wonder when the state first started asking for these documents? What the time frame was. They have been lying low for a while, surely if whatever the documents are, are in their house, they've had plenty of time to be getting it together. Or, to hop to the bank to a safe deposit box, whatever. I'm betting like someone posted earlier, they have probably been sitting on their keisters, thinking that no one would really push the grieving grandparents and distraught parents to provide documents against their own daughter.

[Amy]

Actually, they could use both items, IMO. But, I can't see any police department or other legit group contacting them and asking for use of their equipment either. :chicken: I would be :chicken:!!

I can see where LE or families have to contact TES and other well-established organizations that already have a number of people to look for on their agenda. But, it would seem a group that is just starting up would OFFER their services to LE, or even offer their boat to TES, things like that, until the group would be well-known enough thru GOOD reputation that people would be contacting them.

Just having a boat and having one photo op with it isn't going to have people contacting THEM. Of course, I am sure they feel their name is high profile enough that just one little ol' pic would have people recognizing them and calling them. Heck, all it would take would to be to have a police scanner. They'd hear information about missing children before the general public, and could already have contacted LE with boat in tow, to be ready to help search.

[lorettalockhorn]

Maybe they are going to hit Cindy Anthony up for those telephone numbers and addresses she told Morgan she had for the nanny? :rolleyes:

But, but, didn't she tell Morgan those are in her address book? Maybe she meant her laptop/notebook. ;)

[Amy]

[QUOTE=Wagsy;9205772]http://www.clickorlando.com/news/20157753/detail.html


State Wants Documents From Anthonys
Prosecution Could Seek To Hold Caylee's Grandparents In Contempt


Conway said the Anthonys have no problem producing the documents, and this is just a dispute over timing. He said he is preoccupied with other clients and the Anthonys have had a hard time producing the documents because their computer has been down.

Conway said he is working with the state to resolve the issue.

This request from the prosecution comes one week after defense lawyers for the Anthonys daughter, Casey Anthony, launched an attempt to get all statements made by bounty hunter Leonard Padilla and his associates thrown out of court.

Padilla and his team bonded Casey Anthony out of jail and spent time with her last summer. The defense said Padilla signed a contract not to disclose any information about her.

It is unclear if the documents the prosecution has requested are related to Padilla or another matter.

____________________

*snip* This paragraph contradicts itself: "the Anthonys have no problem producing the documents" then "the Anthonys have had a hard time producing the documents because their computer has been down" What's the correct story on this? :shrug:

I'm surprised there wasn't a snide remark about their computers being down because they were impounded by LE @ one time. I am sure they could come up with something like, LE put some kind of bug (not a trojan or worm thingie,) on the computer to be able to track their activity and the computer crashed. Guess maybe I might not ought to mention this, as someone could still be cruising the message boards and might get ideas on this, lol!!!!

[beemer]

[QUOTE=Wagsy;9205774]

I'm surprised there wasn't a snide remark about their computers being down because they were impounded by LE @ one time. I am sure they could come up with something like, LE put some kind of bug (not a trojan or worm thingie,) on the computer to be able to track their activity and the computer crashed. Guess maybe I might not ought to mention this, as someone could still be cruising the message boards and might get ideas on this, lol!!!!

Haaaaa Is it not the lamed excuse ever? Sounds like an Antism :rolleyes: Then hand over the hard drive dummies :shrug: Glad Brad's back is better :punch:

[SaraSidle]

[QUOTE=Amy;9205813]

Haaaaa Is it not the lamed excuse ever? Sounds like an Antism :rolleyes: Then hand over the hard drive dummies :shrug: Glad Brad's back is better :punch:

I like Antism. Cool word. IMO sara :cool:

[Nawny]

And LE better check it over carefully - remember the hair brush and the comment that she should have given LE the dog's tooth brush. Nice, real nice. I'm putting my money on Strickland having had enough of this family. Perhaps a contempt f court charge is in order. :D

gator

Oooooo!!!! You said the f word! I don't believe it! Those people inspire vulgarity in my friend Gator??! I almost fainted! But I'm not surprised. My garbage mouth is on going every time I read about them. The most commonly used reaction is "THOSE F-ING PEOPLE! I CAN'T STAND THE SOB's"

I won't tell your dad you swore kinda sorta. :hat:

[Nawny]

[QUOTE=Amy;9205813]

Haaaaa Is it not the lamed excuse ever? Sounds like an Antism :rolleyes: Then hand over the hard drive dummies :shrug: Glad Brad's back is better :punch:


You just made me choke on my saltine cracker!!! I love when you do that to Brad! LOL!!!!!

[Nawny]

>>the couple simply hasn't been able to provide the documents in the time frame prosecutors wanted.

Yep, it's hard to dig up documents when you're busy ASWing yourself all over the place in order to lie and dishonor your granddaughter. You know, Cindy. The one "this happened to".
Oh, and of course there's all the time Cindy spent memorizing the document page numberso she could make an ass of herself on the thing at the Morgan deposition. :rolleyes:

That woman is is devoid of compassion. Empty shell of a narcissistic creep. She's grinding her axes to be sure! From what I've seen so far, she is far reaching if she thinks her angry miserable self is going to go against the forces of the system. At this point I can't understand how she could have been good for Caylee in ANY way! All I see is a hellish nut house for that child when she was alive. I don't care how much she paid for her clothes.

I would give a million meatballs to see her wiped all over the court when she tries to go on that stupid level she was on at the Morgan Dep. She did everything but hiss. Ewww, what a terrible excuse for a human being. I see the jury actually sympathizing with the mini socio for having to be her daughter.

I'm still awake! :punch: TOo much cawffee today. :eek:

[Nawny]

You guys are hot tonight!!!! We are really desperate for info on those F-ing people! Vultures we are! Vultures I tell ya! ;)

Goodnight ladies and gent. Sleep tight!

[beemer]

I had to chuckle to myself when reading over on the no discussion board. Reporter got it all wrong writing his piece. It states Liar payed back Bank of America who had come good on Amy's cheque. Has this person been living under a rock? HELLO she never paid it back her lawyer did! Once again the wench was bailed out. I get that they would do that but it still bugs me. Oh well at the end of the day I know in my heart Liar is going to pay for every and any evil she has done-soon but not soon enough:rose:

[Gatordog]

[QUOTE=Wagsy;9205772]http://www.clickorlando.com/news/20157753/detail.html


State Wants Documents From Anthonys
Prosecution Could Seek To Hold Caylee's Grandparents In Contempt


Conway said the Anthonys have no problem producing the documents, and this is just a dispute over timing. He said he is preoccupied with other clients and the Anthonys have had a hard time producing the documents because their computer has been down.

Conway said he is working with the state to resolve the issue.

This request from the prosecution comes one week after defense lawyers for the Anthonys daughter, Casey Anthony, launched an attempt to get all statements made by bounty hunter Leonard Padilla and his associates thrown out of court.

Padilla and his team bonded Casey Anthony out of jail and spent time with her last summer. The defense said Padilla signed a contract not to disclose any information about her.

It is unclear if the documents the prosecution has requested are related to Padilla or another matter.

____________________

*snip* This paragraph contradicts itself: "the Anthonys have no problem producing the documents" then "the Anthonys have had a hard time producing the documents because their computer has been down" What's the correct story on this? :shrug:

Yup Wagsy, just another case of forgetting which lie came first. Oh, I mispoke, Cindy calls them mistruths. I wish there was a smiley face talking from both sides of its mouth.

Gator

[Gatordog]

If they make them turn over the hard drive, which they can, those files are still there. The only way to really get rid of files on a hard drive is with a hammer. Can you imagine the charges if they get cuaght trying to destroy evidence?

Uh-Oh - Cindy's favorite tool of choice is a hammer. I can see it how, I was hammering the sign into the ground and the hammer flew out of my hand and repeatedly hit the hard drive of my computer. http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-violent003.gif (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php)

gator

[beemer]

[QUOTE=beemer;9205815][/B]


You just made me choke on my saltine cracker!!! I love when you do that to Brad! LOL!!!!!

We did get some mileage out of that one:biggrin: I especially liked at the end of the depo's when C got all jiggy-you shut up-no you shut up:eek: :punch:

[beemer]

Uh-Oh - Cindy's favorite tool of choice is a hammer. I can see it how, I was hammering the sign into the ground and the hammer flew out of my hand and repeatedly hit the hard drive of my computer. http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-violent003.gif (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php)

gator
Haaaaa another Antism :beer: Any word yet gator if their sorry azz's will be in court today?

[Gatordog]

Oooooo!!!! You said the f word! I don't believe it! Those people inspire vulgarity in my friend Gator??! I almost fainted! But I'm not surprised. My garbage mouth is on going every time I read about them. The most commonly used reaction is "THOSE F-ING PEOPLE! I CAN'T STAND THE SOB's"

I won't tell your dad you swore kinda sorta. :hat:

Nah - just typed to quickly and didn't proof read properly. Left the "o" off of the word "of". Although it does fit the situation.

Gator :o

[Gatordog]

Haaaaa another Antism :beer: Any word yet gator if their sorry azz's will be in court today?

As of this morning, the report said the hearing was set for 1:30. So time will tell. If the computer was broken, they sure do need to get if fixed quickly if they want to make the deadline. Gee, I wonder if George is going to get a back spasm carrying the cpu and drop it on the floor and then Cindy will trip over it, sending it flying across the room into the wall and table, where a vase is going to fall, spilling water all over it.

[Gatordog]

I miss Old Soul and her funny pictures. I hope she's okay. Maybe on vacation? OS, if you're out there, check in with us. http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-greet016.gif (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php)

gator

[beemer]

As of this morning, the report said the hearing was set for 1:30. So time will tell. If the computer was broken, they sure do need to get if fixed quickly if they want to make the deadline. Gee, I wonder if George is going to get a back spasm carrying the cpu and drop it on the floor and then Cindy will trip over it, sending it flying across the room into the wall and table, where a vase is going to fall, spilling water all over it.

Haaaa then the excuse will be we both hurt our backs and cant appear in court LOL :punch: Or the trickster Zanny used her key-came in and stole it :biggrin:

[beemer]

I miss her too-she is such a scream. I hope all is good OS-come back we have a bit of news here today we can kick around :beer:

[Gatordog]

*&^%&*# Nawny, now I'm swearing.

The hearing has been cancelled.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/orl-bk-casey-anthony-court-072409,0,5722479.story

[beemer]

*&^%&*# Nawny, now I'm swearing.

The hearing has been cancelled.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/orl-bk-casey-anthony-court-072409,0,5722479.story

Oh man :shrug::cuss::flamemad::(

[deacon]

*&^%&*# Nawny, now I'm swearing.

The hearing has been cancelled.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/orl-bk-casey-anthony-court-072409,0,5722479.story

What they were wanting is very interesting. Once, it was reported that they told their investigator that if the body was found, don't tell the police. Hmmmm That could turn into a pitbull and bite them where they sit down.:cool:

[beemer]

I wonder what it is they want??? As Loretta points out LE had already done searches on the computers. So it would have to be since then. And how does SA know that there is something on there???? Dang just when we were ready for more ANTics :confused:

[deacon]

I wonder what it is they want??? As Loretta points out LE had already done searches on the computers. So it would have to be since then. And how does SA know that there is something on there???? Dang just when we were ready for more ANTics :confused:

You know, this just hit me. If they did tell a PI not to report a body find that points to the FACT that they knew Caylee was dead and more than likely knew who killed her. It would be someone who they wanted to protect. Hmmmmmm, I wonder who that would be.:rolleyes:

[beemer]

You know, this just hit me. If they did tell a PI not to report a body find that points to the FACT that they knew Caylee was dead and more than likely knew who killed her. It would be someone who they wanted to protect. Hmmmmmm, I wonder who that would be.:rolleyes:

You could be right deacon. Perhaps there was an exchange of emails? Now the Ants would be stupid enough to leave a paper trail in my opine. Emails between Ants and their PI???? Has to be with someone who would have told SA that info existed on their computer. Papers are stating they are documents????? Guess it could be anything including emails :shrug:

[lorettalockhorn]

[QUOTE=Wagsy;9205774]

Yup Wagsy, just another case of forgetting which lie came first. Oh, I mispoke, Cindy calls them mistruths. I wish there was a smiley face talking from both sides of its mouth.

Gator

Couldn't find that, but I did find another one to represent Cindy!

http://www.smileyvault.com/albums/CBSA/smileyvault-cute-big-smiley-animated-006.gif (http://www.smileyvault.com/)

[Amy]

*&^%&*# Nawny, now I'm swearing.

The hearing has been cancelled.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/orl-bk-casey-anthony-court-072409,0,5722479.story

Well, the media may be unsure what it was Conway dropped off, but it must have been what the state wanted, as the state attorney, along w/Conway notified the Judge the hearing was no longer necessary. I can't imagine she would call it off, if she hadn't made sure it was the documentation that was requested.

I just shake my head about the A's couldn't produce the documents in the time frame the state wanted. Now, for sure I have no idea WHEN the state asked for this, and what dead line they gave. But, the A's haven't been out and about on the "Casey is innocent" tour for some time now. They haven't even been in front of the mics and cameras of the local reporters. There haven't been any hearings. They haven't been out on the boat to search for any missing children--heck, they haven't even been looking for missing children on land, nor has George been driving his billboard. So, what did they have except time to find and produce those documents? Unless they were spending a good deal of time trying to contact networks about more interviews. If so, they were probably getting a busy signal, what w/all the shows seeming to think there is NO news even after all this time since MJ died.

[lorettalockhorn]

*&^%&*# Nawny, now I'm swearing.

The hearing has been cancelled.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/orl-bk-casey-anthony-court-072409,0,5722479.story

...the couple simply hasn't been able to provide the documents in the time frame prosecutors wanted.

"The Anthonys have no problem providing the documentation the state has requested," Conway said Thursday...

Well, there's that wacky explanation again! And isn't it interesting the timing here? Kinda makes it look like G&C were simply being non-compliant.

Wonder if there are any love letters between Cindy and D Casey. :eek:

[lorettalockhorn]

I wonder what it is they want??? As Loretta points out LE had already done searches on the computers. So it would have to be since then. And how does SA know that there is something on there???? Dang just when we were ready for more ANTics :confused:

Wait! I thought it was Bozo who told the PI(s) not to call the po po. Was it the Ants?

[Amy]

You could be right deacon. Perhaps there was an exchange of emails? Now the Ants would be stupid enough to leave a paper trail in my opine. Emails between Ants and their PI???? Has to be with someone who would have told SA that info existed on their computer. Papers are stating they are documents????? Guess it could be anything including emails :shrug:

For all that Conway says their computer was down (or whatever the problem was) it would seem to me that, if the documentation was from emails, the state would just confiscate their computers again. Actually just if whatever would be on the computer, they would confiscate the computers. Well, maybe they were going to give the A's a chance to produce the documents, and perhaps, had they not, and there had been a hearing today, the outcome might have been to take the computers again.

But, I wouldn't trust the A's as far as I could throw them or their comuters. I'd be taking the computer as I wouldn't trust them to down load all the information, or even the correct information. And I wouldn't put it past them to try to do something to write over all the files they try to erase. Like someone posted--remember she was saying too bad she didn't give LE the dog brush instead of something w/Caylee's hair (and even then, she provided a SHARED brush, instead of the one used exclusively for Caylee.)

Brad sure looked like he was enjoying being the center off attention there for a bit, while he basically says nothing in a few short words. Perhaps, now that his back is better, he will be popping up more now.

[Amy]

Wait! I thought it was Bozo who told the PI(s) not to call the po po. Was it the Ants?

It seems to me that D Casey said it was Baez. Or, was it Hoover who said D Casey said Baez? The trouble is, I don't put much stock in what Hoover says, as he was relating information about how people acted in jail--specifically the licorice thing w/Baez and Casey--when the jail staff says there was no way it could have happened the way Hoover described it. And, D Casey? He seemed to be a rather shifty person from the get-go. Kind of wierd. Doesn't exactly make him a liar, but I'm betting he would to save his own arse. IMO.

[beemer]

Wait! I thought it was Bozo who told the PI(s) not to call the po po. Was it the Ants?

I think you are right about that one Loretta. So much to remember here. The only one in this mess with half a brain in M. Nejame-got the heck out :beer:

[beemer]

For all that Conway says their computer was down (or whatever the problem was) it would seem to me that, if the documentation was from emails, the state would just confiscate their computers again. Actually just if whatever would be on the computer, they would confiscate the computers. Well, maybe they were going to give the A's a chance to produce the documents, and perhaps, had they not, and there had been a hearing today, the outcome might have been to take the computers again.

But, I wouldn't trust the A's as far as I could throw them or their comuters. I'd be taking the computer as I wouldn't trust them to down load all the information, or even the correct information. And I wouldn't put it past them to try to do something to write over all the files they try to erase. Like someone posted--remember she was saying too bad she didn't give LE the dog brush instead of something w/Caylee's hair (and even then, she provided a SHARED brush, instead of the one used exclusively for Caylee.)

Brad sure looked like he was enjoying being the center off attention there for a bit, while he basically says nothing in a few short words. Perhaps, now that his back is better, he will be popping up more now.
Haaa yep glad Brad's back is better. Ya i dont trust them as far as i could throw them. If they have tampered they would know if they had the pc. I wish they did and not just the documents. It must be something specific they asked for :shrug: It's killin me-how did they know it was there???

[lorettalockhorn]

It seems to me that D Casey said it was Baez. Or, was it Hoover who said D Casey said Baez? The trouble is, I don't put much stock in what Hoover says, as he was relating information about how people acted in jail--specifically the licorice thing w/Baez and Casey--when the jail staff says there was no way it could have happened the way Hoover described it. And, D Casey? He seemed to be a rather shifty person from the get-go. Kind of wierd. Doesn't exactly make him a liar, but I'm betting he would to save his own arse. IMO.

Well, if D Casey is a liar I can fully see why he would gravitate to the Ants. Agree with your assessment of shifty, not to mention maniacal and downright demented looking the way he was slashing through the woods looking for clues (which he would have surely destroyed if found). :confused:

I think someone has lodge formal complaint(s) against him with the state licensing office.

[beemer]

...the couple simply hasn't been able to provide the documents in the time frame prosecutors wanted.

"The Anthonys have no problem providing the documentation the state has requested," Conway said Thursday...

Well, there's that wacky explanation again! And isn't it interesting the timing here? Kinda makes it look like G&C were simply being non-compliant.

Wonder if there are any love letters between Cindy and D Casey. :eek:
Oh gawd that would be scary-emails between C and D. Casey-we would all be in therapy :eek:

[lorettalockhorn]

I think you are right about that one Loretta. So much to remember here. The only one in this mess with half a brain in M. Nejame-got the heck out :beer:

Yep. And it's because he's no longer involved that I respect him. Had high hopes for Conway at first, but he's had too much Koolaid and is ruined.

Haaa yep glad Brad's back is better. Ya i dont trust them as far as i could throw them. If they have tampered they would know if they had the pc. I wish they did and not just the documents. It must be something specific they asked for :shrug: It's killin me-how did they know it was there???

I guess the logical assumption is that they got a heads up from either D Casey or Hoover himself. :shrug:

[beemer]

Ya it is getting old-Brad's back-delay. PC down-delay. Kids come up with better lies than that:rolleyes:

[lorettalockhorn]

Oh gawd that would be scary-emails between C and D. Casey-we would all be in therapy :eek:

Can it be group therapy?!?!?! :tongue:;):D:hat::biggrin:

I think you are right about that one Loretta. So much to remember here. The only one in this mess with half a brain in M. Nejame-got the heck out :beer:

The dog ate my home computer??

[beemer]

Can it be group therapy?!?!?! :tongue:;):D:hat::biggrin:

Oh yes-much cheaper :beer:



The dog ate my home computer??
Haaaa ya know i can buy that coming outta their mouths-I really can:D I really thought their best bet was to go with Zanny used her key and stole it-we really could understand that one:eek:

[lorettalockhorn]

Haaaa ya know i can buy that coming outta their mouths-I really can:D I really thought their best bet was to go with Zanny used her key and stole it-we really could understand that one:eek:

That Zanny! She's such a sneaky Pete! But doncha think that the Ants have changed their locks by know to keep her from coming back in? I mean after she used to before to do those searches and steal the Winnie the Pooh blanket?

[beemer]

That Zanny! She's such a sneaky Pete! But doncha think that the Ants have changed their locks by know to keep her from coming back in? I mean after she used to before to do those searches and steal the Winnie the Pooh blanket?

One would think they would-especially now that they have a boat in the garage. I assume its still on their property. Its a wonder the Ants didn't start hollering about stuff missing from their home at a later date. That could be why-locks changed and LE knows they have been. I could have so seen C hollering See See i told u Zanny or A Zanny exists she is still trying to teach a lesson. Their nuts:confused:

[lorettalockhorn]

One would think they would-especially now that they have a boat in the garage. I assume its still on their property. Its a wonder the Ants didn't start hollering about stuff missing from their home at a later date. That could be why-locks changed and LE knows they have been. I could have so seen C hollering See See i told u Zanny or A Zanny exists she is still trying to teach a lesson. Their nuts:confused:

LOL Cindy should just whip out her address book and go over and wring her neck or break out all her windows with her trusty hammer. Oops. Forgot. Zanny prolly moved by now. :punch:

[JLette]

LOL Cindy should just whip out her address book and go over and wring her neck or break out all her windows with her trusty hammer. Oops. Forgot. Zanny prolly moved by now. :punch:

HAHA well Zanny IS known for moving around to different places constantly and all. she sure is a hard lady to find :rolleyes:

[Mojo]

...the couple simply hasn't been able to provide the documents in the time frame prosecutors wanted.

"The Anthonys have no problem providing the documentation the state has requested," Conway said Thursday...

Well, there's that wacky explanation again! And isn't it interesting the timing here? Kinda makes it look like G&C were simply being non-compliant.

Wonder if there are any love letters between Cindy and D Casey. :eek:

whoo hooo! Now wouldn't that be somethin'!

[beemer]

LOL Cindy should just whip out her address book and go over and wring her neck or break out all her windows with her trusty hammer. Oops. Forgot. Zanny prolly moved by now. :punch:
Ya i bin wunderin where that good lookin 10 that works for free could be :punch:

[DrewBerry]

Ya i bin wunderin where that good lookin 10 that works for free could be :punch:

Me too, Beemer! I've often wondered why/how the Liar wasn't able to describe such a 10 to LE sketch artist. . .I'd love to see the drawing!! WTF?! I know, I know. She's a "mistruth."
:seeya:
DrewB

[beemer]

Me too, Beemer! I've often wondered why/how the Liar wasn't able to describe such a 10 to LE sketch artist. . .I'd love to see the drawing!! WTF?! I know, I know. She's a "mistruth."
:seeya:
DrewB
Hey Drew :seeya: Ya and i wanna see that list of instructions from Zanny too:rolleyes:

[DrewBerry]

LOL Cindy should just whip out her address book and go over and wring her neck or break out all her windows with her trusty hammer. Oops. Forgot. Zanny prolly moved by now. :punch:

Too funny, Loretta. The Grinch could memorize the number "10" but no addy's or phone #'s of peeps that were "caring" for her only grandchild. What a sorry ass excuse of a controlling grandmother. GAWD! I still get so furious. :flamemad:
DrewB

[beemer]

Yeah and we were already for some Ant news today. Then the Ants had to go and do the right thing. When has that ever happened-go figure:rolleyes:

[SaraSidle]

Yeah and we were already for some Ant news today. Then the Ants had to go and do the right thing. When has that ever happened-go figure:rolleyes:

How much are you willing to bet they did not turn all of it over?

[Gatordog]

Well, the media may be unsure what it was Conway dropped off, but it must have been what the state wanted, as the state attorney, along w/Conway notified the Judge the hearing was no longer necessary. I can't imagine she would call it off, if she hadn't made sure it was the documentation that was requested.

I just shake my head about the A's couldn't produce the documents in the time frame the state wanted. Now, for sure I have no idea WHEN the state asked for this, and what dead line they gave. But, the A's haven't been out and about on the "Casey is innocent" tour for some time now. They haven't even been in front of the mics and cameras of the local reporters. There haven't been any hearings. They haven't been out on the boat to search for any missing children--heck, they haven't even been looking for missing children on land, nor has George been driving his billboard. So, what did they have except time to find and produce those documents? Unless they were spending a good deal of time trying to contact networks about more interviews. If so, they were probably getting a busy signal, what w/all the shows seeming to think there is NO news even after all this time since MJ died.

Makes me wonder if they have the documents from Dominick and they want the same from G&C to make sure they match. Honestly, if I were the State's attorney, I would want the hard drive not documents. Anyone can doctor a print out. I would also want to see the history of the documents to verify that there has been no tampering.

[Gatordog]

For all that Conway says their computer was down (or whatever the problem was) it would seem to me that, if the documentation was from emails, the state would just confiscate their computers again. Actually just if whatever would be on the computer, they would confiscate the computers. Well, maybe they were going to give the A's a chance to produce the documents, and perhaps, had they not, and there had been a hearing today, the outcome might have been to take the computers again.

But, I wouldn't trust the A's as far as I could throw them or their comuters. I'd be taking the computer as I wouldn't trust them to down load all the information, or even the correct information. And I wouldn't put it past them to try to do something to write over all the files they try to erase. Like someone posted--remember she was saying too bad she didn't give LE the dog brush instead of something w/Caylee's hair (and even then, she provided a SHARED brush, instead of the one used exclusively for Caylee.)

Brad sure looked like he was enjoying being the center off attention there for a bit, while he basically says nothing in a few short words. Perhaps, now that his back is better, he will be popping up more now.

Amy - I'm with you 100 percent! :beer:

[Gatordog]

Ya i bin wunderin where that good lookin 10 that works for free could be :punch:

And don't forget in the depo Cindy said that Zanny had a dog. It's hard to move around with a dog in tow. Not many apartments accept dogs. Must be that new breed I read about that are non-shedding, non-eating and non-pooping dogs - the Invisidog.

Gator

[SaraSidle]

And don't forget in the depo Cindy said that Zanny had a dog. It's hard to move around with a dog in tow. Not many apartments accept dogs. Must be that new breed I read about that are non-shedding, non-eating and non-pooping dogs - the Invisidog.

Gator

Excellent points Gator and Amy........IMO sara

[BeastofBears]

Oh gawd that would be scary-emails between C and D. Casey-we would all be in therapy :eek:

I am going out on a limb and saying those would not be as literate, poetic, or theological as Mark Sanford's missives to La Cuerpaza.

[BeastofBears]

How much are you willing to bet they did not turn all of it over?

imo, you are correct. It would be following the pattern to keep stringing along and buy more time. Behold the Pale Horse!...has come to save us from this silly trial.

[lorettalockhorn]

Makes me wonder if they have the documents from Dominick and they want the same from G&C to make sure they match. Honestly, if I were the State's attorney, I would want the hard drive not documents. Anyone can doctor a print out. I would also want to see the history of the documents to verify that there has been no tampering.

Great point! Maybe the prosecution isn't just looking for the evidence to compare but administering a test at the same time.

[SaraSidle]

I am going out on a limb and saying those would not be as literate, poetic, or theological as Mark Sanford's missives to La Cuerpaza.

Oh BOB. that is too funny. I am not even going to try and imagine!!!
sara

[BeastofBears]

Amy - I'm with you 100 percent! :beer:

Has anyone but Conway said the "documents" requested were on the computer? I mean, they should just demand the computer if its there, right? But if its paper, harder to find, give them a chance to produce it, right?

I suspect that what Conway said was a red herring to lead people away from what they are really looking for. It could well be the originals of contracts between the Anthonies and the PI's for example...

all imo, moo and speculation.

[SaraSidle]

Has anyone but Conway said the "documents" requested were on the computer? I mean, they should just demand the computer if its there, right? But if its paper, harder to find, give them a chance to produce it, right?

I suspect that what Conway said was a red herring to lead people away from what they are really looking for. It could well be the originals of contracts between the Anthonies and the PI's for example...

all imo, moo and speculation.

Or maybe any written agreements between the defense and the Anthony's.
IMO sara

[lorettalockhorn]

Has anyone but Conway said the "documents" requested were on the computer? I mean, they should just demand the computer if its there, right? But if its paper, harder to find, give them a chance to produce it, right?

I suspect that what Conway said was a red herring to lead people away from what they are really looking for. It could well be the originals of contracts between the Anthonies and the PI's for example...

all imo, moo and speculation.

Don't think it's been stated by the prosecution, and I reckon the Ants coughed up whatever they turned over partially to keep it out of the court record and the press. Seems like there was a blurb about the possibility of the financial information and how the defense is being payed for coming to light sooner or later.

[kathmandu]

sorry to jump in here in the middle, but I had a quick question if someone can explain.

While reading the INCOMING text messages on Amy H's phone on the date of Friday, June 13, 2008 around 6-7am, there are a few that mention 'on my way to the hospital with my dad,' and 'my dad had a stroke.'

It's been said that CASEY made this up about George and used it as an excuse to get out of having to go on a trip to Jacksonville with Amy to pick up a new car, but in an incoming text on Amy's phone, the person who is sending the message says something about how 'dad will be fine, gave mom and I a good scare' and then it says, "sorry you aren't coming."

That part doesn't make sense to me.

If Amy was going to Jacksonville, why would CASEY text her and say sorry you aren't coming. Wouldn't she be saying "sorry I AM NOT GOING" instead of sorry you aren't coming?

Can someone explain? (Also, didn't I hear Cindy say that her dad had a stroke not too long ago and was not doing too well, and according to her dates and explanations, she put this between end of May and mid-June because she talked of going to see him the weekend before father's day because 'he wasn't doing too well.'

I just would like someone to help explain why it makes sense to say that it was CASEY who texted Amy saying 'sorry you aren't coming' when it is believed that Casey was the one who backed out of a trip, which would make her say 'sorry I AM NOT GOING' instead of 'sorry you aren't coming.'

I hope I wan't too confusing, but if you can explain this, please do. The only explanationsI can come up with so far are that maybe these texts weren't from Casey herself, but from someone else, or maybe Casey and Amy were trading identity, and maybe they switched phones at some point? otherwise, the message about 'sorry you aren't coming' doesn't fit with what we are being told by Amy H.

[Nawny]

[QUOTE=Nawny;9205861]

We did get some mileage out of that one:biggrin: I especially liked at the end of the depo's when C got all jiggy-you shut up-no you shut up:eek: :punch:

Yes I liked that one too! But the Brad one gets me every time!

Shut up, no you shut up! :punch:

[Nawny]

sorry to jump in here in the middle, but I had a quick question if someone can explain.

While reading the INCOMING text messages on Amy H's phone on the date of Friday, June 13, 2008 around 6-7am, there are a few that mention 'on my way to the hospital with my dad,' and 'my dad had a stroke.'

It's been said that CASEY made this up about George and used it as an excuse to get out of having to go on a trip to Jacksonville with Amy to pick up a new car, but in an incoming text on Amy's phone, the person who is sending the message says something about how 'dad will be fine, gave mom and I a good scare' and then it says, "sorry you aren't coming."

That part doesn't make sense to me.

If Amy was going to Jacksonville, why would CASEY text her and say sorry you aren't coming. Wouldn't she be saying "sorry I AM NOT GOING" instead of sorry you aren't coming?

Can someone explain? (Also, didn't I hear Cindy say that her dad had a stroke not too long ago and was not doing too well, and according to her dates and explanations, she put this between end of May and mid-June because she talked of going to see him the weekend before father's day because 'he wasn't doing too well.'

I just would like someone to help explain why it makes sense to say that it was CASEY who texted Amy saying 'sorry you aren't coming' when it is believed that Casey was the one who backed out of a trip, which would make her say 'sorry I AM NOT GOING' instead of 'sorry you aren't coming.'

I hope I wan't too confusing, but if you can explain this, please do. The only explanationsI can come up with so far are that maybe these texts weren't from Casey herself, but from someone else, or maybe Casey and Amy were trading identity, and maybe they switched phones at some point? otherwise, the message about 'sorry you aren't coming' doesn't fit with what we are being told by Amy H.

I'm real rusty on those texts, haven't looked at them in a while. Sorry. But they were full of lies, who knows? Stroke? Indeed! I won't even try to guess what that bubblehead was talking about.

[Nawny]

Wait! I thought it was Bozo who told the PI(s) not to call the po po. Was it the Ants?

Well did LE break Grinch's laws again? Darn, they just never learn! Did they not see Grinch's rules posted on the fridge?

ALRIGHT! GAWHEAD! GO THERE! MAKE AN ASS OF YOURSELF ON THE THING!
I WANT THIS MIC OFF ME!:cuss:
I WON"T ANSWER THAT SIR!:flamemad:
I ALREADY ANSWERED THAT AND IF YOU ASK ME AGAIN, I'LL WALK RIGHT OUT OF HERE!:cuss:
NOT TO MY KNOWLEDGE SIR!:mad:
ZANNY COULD BE JESSE GRUND OR AMY!:mad:

[Nawny]

Don't think it's been stated by the prosecution, and I reckon the Ants coughed up whatever they turned over partially to keep it out of the court record and the press. Seems like there was a blurb about the possibility of the financial information and how the defense is being payed for coming to light sooner or later.

Hmmm, such good people they are! All they do it pay and pay.. ;)

[Nawny]

Oh gawd that would be scary-emails between C and D. Casey-we would all be in therapy :eek:

THERAPEEEE!!!! Oooooo..., can I sit in the front? Will there be haterade there? And documents?

[Amy]

sorry to jump in here in the middle, but I had a quick question if someone can explain.

While reading the INCOMING text messages on Amy H's phone on the date of Friday, June 13, 2008 around 6-7am, there are a few that mention 'on my way to the hospital with my dad,' and 'my dad had a stroke.'

It's been said that CASEY made this up about George and used it as an excuse to get out of having to go on a trip to Jacksonville with Amy to pick up a new car, but in an incoming text on Amy's phone, the person who is sending the message says something about how 'dad will be fine, gave mom and I a good scare' and then it says, "sorry you aren't coming."

That part doesn't make sense to me.

If Amy was going to Jacksonville, why would CASEY text her and say sorry you aren't coming. Wouldn't she be saying "sorry I AM NOT GOING" instead of sorry you aren't coming?

Can someone explain? (Also, didn't I hear Cindy say that her dad had a stroke not too long ago and was not doing too well, and according to her dates and explanations, she put this between end of May and mid-June because she talked of going to see him the weekend before father's day because 'he wasn't doing too well.'

I just would like someone to help explain why it makes sense to say that it was CASEY who texted Amy saying 'sorry you aren't coming' when it is believed that Casey was the one who backed out of a trip, which would make her say 'sorry I AM NOT GOING' instead of 'sorry you aren't coming.'

I hope I wan't too confusing, but if you can explain this, please do. The only explanationsI can come up with so far are that maybe these texts weren't from Casey herself, but from someone else, or maybe Casey and Amy were trading identity, and maybe they switched phones at some point? otherwise, the message about 'sorry you aren't coming' doesn't fit with what we are being told by Amy H.

Hmmm.... Good catch. Another twist in an already twisted case. What does this mean, and where does it fit into the puzzle? I wonder if it was a typo kind of thing? I know when I look back on texts, I shake my head @ the grammar and even the wording. Maybe she meant to type "sorry I'm not coming" but wrote the other.

I do remember the discussion @ the time, and Casey was lying about George going to the hospital--her excuse for not going to Jacksonville w/Amy as planned. I think it was in Amy's interview where she confirmed that Casey had said her dad was in hospital, etc?

The possibility of phones being in switched would make sense (for the timing) if Cindy picked up Casey's phone. The info would be correct for the timing (Cindy's dad having a stroke) but one would think she'd notice, by the contact list if nothing else, that she had the wrong phone, and why would she choose Amy to text? No, I talked myself out of Cindy and Casey switching phones, even accidentally.

But, Amy doesn't say anything about her dad being ill in interviews, to explain any texts (did LE have those texts to ask about when they interviewed her?) to indicate she and Casey had switched phones. But, if no one asked, she might not have come up an explanation.

I guess the one who could explain this would be Miss Casey herself. And if she even remembered why she wrote what she did, who knows if she would come up with the truth or just an elaborate lie to explain.

[BeastofBears]

One series of things that haunt me are 1) George was very near the trunk of the car on the 24th (was it?) 2) He vomited in the police interview 3) when deposed, he got very angry when asked about what Caylee looked like the last time he saw her, and was very upset by the word "remains". Those reactions seemed so strange. (Of course, few people have been in these circumstances, so what's the norm?)

What could it all mean? I have theories that sadden me if they were to be true...I wonder if we'll really find out what happened during the trial?

I suppose that the state has its hands full just dealing with the things they need to immediately convict, unravelling all that, and they may not even go to things like the phone messages...

[BeastofBears]

Hmm, that got me thinking...

The prosecution. Do you think they will just be about: The child was missing, she was not reported missing for 31 days and not even by the defendant. The defendant shopped and partied while her child was "missing". Here is the physical evidence. Here is her reaction. The prosecution rests.

It could be made as simple as that. It could be a very short prosecution phase. We get into the minutiae because we really want to know why and how this happened.

Where they may have to get into the really whacked complicated stuff will be during the defense phase, because who knows what Baez' plan is (does Baez know what his plan is?)

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THIS...should not be dead.

[BeastofBears]

According to the Orlando Sentinel, the state wants correspondence between the A's and the PI's, not sure if that is what was turned over yesterday: http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/orl-bk-casey-anthony-court-072409,0,5722479.story

[beemer]

Wow-I wonder if there is something in those documents that caused them to stall? Or maybe just being difficult:shrug:

[Amy]

Wow-I wonder if there is something in those documents that caused them to stall? Or maybe just being difficult:shrug:

With them, it's hard to tell. They have long been cantankerous (when I looked up the spelling, I came across contentious, and that fits, too) in their behaviours. Ever since they realized that LE was not looking for a LIVE Caylee, certainly after August 1, 2008. I say then, because they really were trying to be cooperative in the FBI interviews late July, IMO. George, especially. Even Cindy, even tho it does seem she was trying to point LE to any direction except to Casey.

I hope we get to be privy to those documents, bet they are interesting, especially if Cindy and D Casey really did have something going on, as per Hoover's allegations.

I'm leaning heavily toward just being difficult, not wanting to provide anything that might help the prosecution.

[lorettalockhorn]

THERAPEEEE!!!! Oooooo..., can I sit in the front? Will there be haterade there? And documents?

Yes, yes, and yes. And you will be expected to memorize all page numbers!

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[lorettalockhorn]

Hmmm.... Good catch. Another twist in an already twisted case. What does this mean, and where does it fit into the puzzle? I wonder if it was a typo kind of thing? I know when I look back on texts, I shake my head @ the grammar and even the wording. Maybe she meant to type "sorry I'm not coming" but wrote the other.

I do remember the discussion @ the time, and Casey was lying about George going to the hospital--her excuse for not going to Jacksonville w/Amy as planned. I think it was in Amy's interview where she confirmed that Casey had said her dad was in hospital, etc?

The possibility of phones being in switched would make sense (for the timing) if Cindy picked up Casey's phone. The info would be correct for the timing (Cindy's dad having a stroke) but one would think she'd notice, by the contact list if nothing else, that she had the wrong phone, and why would she choose Amy to text? No, I talked myself out of Cindy and Casey switching phones, even accidentally.

But, Amy doesn't say anything about her dad being ill in interviews, to explain any texts (did LE have those texts to ask about when they interviewed her?) to indicate she and Casey had switched phones. But, if no one asked, she might not have come up an explanation.

I guess the one who could explain this would be Miss Casey herself. And if she even remembered why she wrote what she did, who knows if she would come up with the truth or just an elaborate lie to explain.

Didn't George actually go to the hospital? Or was it a different time? I do remember that LE published incident calls to the Ants' house on the OCSO website and there was an ambulance call. Maybe Casey was sorry that Amy wasn't coming to the hospital to keep her company while George lingered between life and death? So that they could make plans for burning his chit and moving Amy in?

[lorettalockhorn]

One series of things that haunt me are 1) George was very near the trunk of the car on the 24th (was it?) 2) He vomited in the police interview 3) when deposed, he got very angry when asked about what Caylee looked like the last time he saw her, and was very upset by the word "remains". Those reactions seemed so strange. (Of course, few people have been in these circumstances, so what's the norm?)

What could it all mean? I have theories that sadden me if they were to be true...I wonder if we'll really find out what happened during the trial?

I suppose that the state has its hands full just dealing with the things they need to immediately convict, unravelling all that, and they may not even go to things like the phone messages...

Well, George just bugs the bejesus outta me. SHOCK! Honestly, I think any single one of those reactions to the reality of Caylee's death would seem normal (to me), but to have such a visceral reaction several times seems off.

[Wagsy]

A new sign has been recommended to be placed on local streets starting at Hopespring Drive:


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Had to post this after I found it! :biggrin:

Above is moo.

[lorettalockhorn]

A new sign has been recommended to be placed on local streets starting at Hopespring Drive:


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Had to post this after I found it! :biggrin:

Above is moo.

LMAO And no eunuch brow either!

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[Wagsy]

ROFL Trust you to come back with a good zinger like that!! Love it!

[Wagsy]

Couldn't wait to get online today and find out if G&C ended up in court yesterday. From posts, it seems they didn't. Also seems to be a general consensus that we're not sure what the documents wanted were either. Like all the ideas of what they 'could' have been wanting. :shrug:

[Gatordog]

A two year old boy was missing for about an hour this morning. Seems grandma forgot he was with a relative. Wonder if George was getting the boat out ready to search? ;)

Gator

We need news doggone it!

[SaraSidle]

A two year old boy was missing for about an hour this morning. Seems grandma forgot he was with a relative. Wonder if George was getting the boat out ready to search? ;)

Gator

We need news doggone it!

LOL Gator I pictured that for just a couple of moments and then laughed. Thank you .:) sara

[beemer]

A two year old boy was missing for about an hour this morning. Seems grandma forgot he was with a relative. Wonder if George was getting the boat out ready to search? ;)

Gator

We need news doggone it!

Yes we sure do dont we:shrug: Well G would just say by the time i got er all cleaned up and spit shined the boy was found-another Antism:D:cuss:

[SaraSidle]

Yes we sure do dont we:shrug: Well G would just say by the time i got er all cleaned up and spit shined the boy was found-another Antism:D:cuss:

well at least they have a plan just in case........IMO sara:rolleyes:

[beemer]

well at least they have a plan just in case........IMO sara:rolleyes:

HaaaaaHaaaaaaa:D

[Gatordog]

LOL Gator I pictured that for just a couple of moments and then laughed. Thank you .:) sara

Yeah, it takes a while to get all that fishing gear out of the boat. :D

[lorettalockhorn]

Yes we sure do dont we:shrug: Well G would just say by the time i got er all cleaned up and spit shined the boy was found-another Antism:D:cuss:

I think of the lies they tell themselves (and the public) as ANTagonisms. :hat:

Geroge really needs to dial back the OCD a notch so he'll be ready at a minute's notice!

[lorettalockhorn]

Yeah, it takes a while to get all that fishing gear out of the boat. :D

True dat!

[Nawny]

Yes, yes, and yes. And you will be expected to memorize all page numbers!

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Haaa!!!! I just saw this! Don't know how I missed it! Good one Loretta! My memorizer thingy is broken. I'm too old to memorize! I can't remember going from the car to the house 15 minutes ago. I'll white knuckle it baby!

[Nawny]

Well, George just bugs the bejesus outta me. SHOCK! Honestly, I think any single one of those reactions to the reality of Caylee's death would seem normal (to me), but to have such a visceral reaction several times seems off.

It is off. He was on drama mode while trying to elicit sympathy but he went about it all wrong. He forgot to wear his dead grandchild button. ALso, he was in attack mode. Like one of Grinch's terriors. Biting ankles doesn't get you off the hook of lies.

[DrewBerry]

[/B]

It is off. He was on drama mode while trying to elicit sympathy but he went about it all wrong. He forgot to wear his dead grandchild button. ALso, he was in attack mode. Like one of Grinch's terriors. Biting ankles doesn't get you off the hook of lies.

Hi Nawny! :seeya: Good One! He is indeed, Grinch's loyal dog. Responds to her commands, rolls over, fakes suicide, and has not a mind of his own. Losers! Just thought I'd throw in my 2 cents since there is no news yet!

We're getting your summer weather here in sunny Seattle. We've had a week straight of 90 + degrees and will break records reaching 100 on Wed. We don't do well with this heat. I'm melting!

DrewB

[lorettalockhorn]

Hi Nawny! :seeya: Good One! He is indeed, Grinch's loyal dog. Responds to her commands, rolls over, fakes suicide, and has not a mind of his own. Losers! Just thought I'd throw in my 2 cents since there is no news yet!

We're getting your summer weather here in sunny Seattle. We've had a week straight of 90 + degrees and will break records reaching 100 on Wed. We don't do well with this heat. I'm melting!

DrewB

Drewby, it's unseasonably cool here (after a heat spell in early June that threw us off) and it just ain't right! It's topsy turvy.

Just not sure what to think about George's suicide attempt. Not sure that I believe it, but I did at the time. :shrug:

[lorettalockhorn]

Haaa!!!! I just saw this! Don't know how I missed it! Good one Loretta! My memorizer thingy is broken. I'm too old to memorize! I can't remember going from the car to the house 15 minutes ago. I'll white knuckle it baby!

The simple solution here is to not go from the car to the house (or vice versa). Stay home. Period.

There. I said it.

Being a hermit is a good thing.

Period.

[DrewBerry]

Drewby, it's unseasonably cool here (after a heat spell in early June that threw us off) and it just ain't right! It's topsy turvy.

Just not sure what to think about George's suicide attempt. Not sure that I believe it, but I did at the time. :shrug:

Hey Loretta. It is topsy-turvy. We are experiencing global warming first hand here in the NW.
My thoughts are very cynical when it comes to Georgie's "suicide attempt." Of course, I don't have all the facts but I believe he was acting out in some degree to get someone to pay attention to him. Well, it worked for awhile. But did you notice he made a very "quick recovery" and was out in public very soon spewing family rage at ZG's attorneys, etc. I think he's a big phony, and his wife, an even bigger phony. JMO.
I've been drinking large quantities of Haterade tonight to keep hydrated in this heat wave!!! :beer:
DrewB

[SaraSidle]

The simple solution here is to not go from the car to the house (or vice versa). Stay home. Period.

There. I said it.

Being a hermit is a good thing.

Period.

yes I agree 100% sara

[DrewBerry]

Yeah, it takes a while to get all that fishing gear out of the boat. :D

Hey Gator! Thanks for the laughs! :D You have a great knack for creating hysterial, LMAO visuals of those two ya-hoos!! Idiots!
Good to see ya.
DrewB

[lorettalockhorn]

Hey Loretta. It is topsy-turvy. We are experiencing global warming first hand here in the NW.
My thoughts are very cynical when it comes to Georgie's "suicide attempt." Of course, I don't have all the facts but I believe he was acting out in some degree to get someone to pay attention to him. Well, it worked for awhile. But did you notice he made a very "quick recovery" and was out in public very soon spewing family rage at ZG's attorneys, etc. I think he's a big phony, and his wife, an even bigger phony. JMO.
I've been drinking large quantities of Haterade tonight to keep hydrated in this heat wave!!! :beer:
DrewB

Drew! :seeya:

Not sure if I even remember my thoughts from way back when, but honestly when the suicide gesture or attempt went down, my support was with George since a) it took forever to be reported, and b) because it was Conway who made the report instead of Cindy. And hell, maybe none of that matters. But THEN Cindy later reported suicidal ideation. :rolleyes::rolleyes: Nuff said.

Oh man, we should probably house-sit for each other; seems like we have each others' weather.

[Amy]

Hi Nawny! :seeya: Good One! He is indeed, Grinch's loyal dog. Responds to her commands, rolls over, fakes suicide, and has not a mind of his own. Losers! Just thought I'd throw in my 2 cents since there is no news yet!

We're getting your summer weather here in sunny Seattle. We've had a week straight of 90 + degrees and will break records reaching 100 on Wed. We don't do well with this heat. I'm melting!

DrewB

Hmmm.....wonder if that means the global warming is all in the great Northwest, and it's kind of returning to global cooling in the East? Or, all the people in the East have been heeding Al Gore's advice about global warming--only went too far? :biggrin: :D :eek: :chicken:

[lorettalockhorn]

yes I agree 100% sara

If'n you're a hermit, we should rent a duplex (or triplex or whatever) together! :beer:

[SaraSidle]

If'n you're a hermit, we should rent a duplex (or triplex or whatever) together! :beer:

yeah but what about Leroy and Bill. Put them in another duplex?
Oh my can you imagine. after 5 days you could not walk into their duplex half.LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL sara

[SaraSidle]

Hmmm.....wonder if that means the global warming is all in the great Northwest, and it's kind of returning to global cooling in the East? Or, all the people in the East have been heeding Al Gore's advice about global warming--only went too far? :biggrin: :D :eek: :chicken:

what I heard is that global warming would be to the extremes. very cold winters and very hot summers. guess I heard wrong.:shrug: sara

I was afraid george would not be able to get his boat on the water if it was ice like here!!! sara

[Amy]

what I heard is that global warming would be to the extremes. very cold winters and very hot summers. guess I heard wrong.:shrug: sara

I was afraid george would not be able to get his boat on the water if it was ice like here!!! sara

There you go!! An excuse for him to not get the boat on the water!! He's probably afraid it's ready to get iced up any minute, lol.

[SaraSidle]

There you go!! An excuse for him to not get the boat on the water!! He's probably afraid it's ready to get iced up any minute, lol.

Maybe he should put an icebreaker on the boat. A tall metal pole with a point on the end of it. As long as he does not pull a Titanic on us........sara

[SaraSidle]

Maybe he should put an icebreaker on the boat. A tall metal pole with a point on the end of it. As long as he does not pull a Titanic on us........sara

I have to go to sleep now. Big day tomorrow and eyelids are heavy. :seeya: sara

[lorettalockhorn]

yeah but what about Leroy and Bill. Put them in another duplex?
Oh my can you imagine. after 5 days you could not walk into their duplex half.LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL sara

They're grown up, they can fiend for themselves!

But you're right, maybe we need a triplex. tehee

[DrewBerry]

Drew! :seeya:

Not sure if I even remember my thoughts from way back when, but honestly when the suicide gesture or attempt went down, my support was with George since a) it took forever to be reported, and b) because it was Conway who made the report instead of Cindy. And hell, maybe none of that matters. But THEN Cindy later reported suicidal ideation. :rolleyes::rolleyes: Nuff said.

Oh man, we should probably house-sit for each other; seems like we have each others' weather.

Loretta: Let me know when we can swap houses! Summers in Seattle are darn right beautiful with perfect 76-80 degree weather but this 95-100 stops us all in our tracks as we've never required A/C. I am truly SLEEPLESS in Seattle this past week!! Seriously, I would love to see your part of the country.
Yeah, I'm not sure what to think about that suicide stuff. I do try to look at all the possibilities and love other perspectives. Who knows what kind of chit that really goes on in their heads. Guess it will remain one of their secrets.
I so enjoy our discussions. Like the way you think, lady!
DrewB

[DrewBerry]

what I heard is that global warming would be to the extremes. very cold winters and very hot summers. guess I heard wrong.:shrug: sara

I was afraid george would not be able to get his boat on the water if it was ice like here!!! sara

Good one, Sara!! Very funny, indeed. When there's no news we always seem to find something to crack some smiles!! Love the quick wit and humor on our boards!
Have a great evening! :seeya:
DrewB

[DrewBerry]

LMAO And no eunuch brow either!

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This is HYSTERICAL! I admire your graphics abilities! We should create a book of some of this stuff. . . I simply can't stop laughing outloud! :D:D:biggrin::biggrin:
DrewB

[lighthousedazy]

This is HYSTERICAL! I admire your graphics abilities! We should create a book of some of this stuff. . . I simply can't stop laughing outloud! :D:D:biggrin::biggrin:
DrewBAbsolutely. ;)

[lorettalockhorn]

Loretta: Let me know when we can swap houses! Summers in Seattle are darn right beautiful with perfect 76-80 degree weather but this 95-100 stops us all in our tracks as we've never required A/C. I am truly SLEEPLESS in Seattle this past week!! Seriously, I would love to see your part of the country.
Yeah, I'm not sure what to think about that suicide stuff. I do try to look at all the possibilities and love other perspectives. Who knows what kind of chit that really goes on in their heads. Guess it will remain one of their secrets.
I so enjoy our discussions. Like the way you think, lady!
DrewB

I'm telling you like a friend, that even though it's unseasonably cool here, the humidity is still unbearable. Could NOT live without AC! And even though we have a nuclear power plant on the horizon, we still pay outrageous electric rates since Entergy apparently sells the cheap power to other states. :cuss: But don't get me wrong, it's beautiful here and we would love to see you. Cause we'uns love y'all!

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[lorettalockhorn]

This is HYSTERICAL! I admire your graphics abilities! We should create a book of some of this stuff. . . I simply can't stop laughing outloud! :D:D:biggrin::biggrin:
DrewB

HAH! George should have those brows worked on like I did yesterday. But I hope he doesn't leave the salon with a booboo like I did. OUCH!

I just steal this stuff off tinypic.com or upload stuff there from google images. OS on the other hand creates the really neat stuff! :beer:

[lorettalockhorn]

Absolutely. ;)

Hey! :seeya: Where you been hiding out?

[DrewBerry]

HAH! George should have those brows worked on like I did yesterday. But I hope he doesn't leave the salon with a booboo like I did. OUCH!

I just steal this stuff off tinypic.com or upload stuff there from google images. OS on the other hand creates the really neat stuff! :beer:

Good to Know!! Thanks for the tips. I'll check it out. Yes, OS is the queen of uploading unusual stuff. . .always look forward to her posts.
OS, where are you? Missing you!:)
DrewB

[DrewBerry]

Absolutely. ;)

Hi Light! Good to see you! Where ya been? :)
DrewB

[DrewBerry]

I'm telling you like a friend, that even though it's unseasonably cool here, the humidity is still unbearable. Could NOT live without AC! And even though we have a nuclear power plant on the horizon, we still pay outrageous electric rates since Entergy apparently sells the cheap power to other states. :cuss: But don't get me wrong, it's beautiful here and we would love to see you. Cause we'uns love y'all!

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Well, Loretta. I'm definitely putting Arkisauce on my bucket list!
Nice photo. I hear ya about outrageous energy costs.
DrewB

[Nawny]

Well, Loretta. I'm definitely putting Arkisauce on my bucket list!
Nice photo. I hear ya about outrageous energy costs.
DrewB

I've never been to Loretta territory either. Shame on me, shame shame:punch:

It seems they don't solicit their wares around here. What sa mattah? You don't like tourists? Do you live near the Clinton's? :chicken: I do like the bad boy though. Actually, I admire his life story. He made the American dream come alive again.

What board am I on? I smell the A's.. uh oh!

[Nawny]

HAH! George should have those brows worked on like I did yesterday. But I hope he doesn't leave the salon with a booboo like I did. OUCH!
I just steal this stuff off tinypic.com or upload stuff there from google images. OS on the other hand creates the really neat stuff! :beer:

What happened Lor? They injured you?:confused:

I miss OS too, I hope she's okay. I'm starting to worry now. :shrug: