Caylee Anthony Case Discussion Only

[SaraSidle]

Listen to the audio again. There's no right or wrong for her. She truly doesn't care about Caylee. When I heard her saying she was frantic because she couldn't find Caylee did you hear her voice crackle, waver even a little to show she was upset? The concern is just not there. It's so obvious she doesn't care about Caylee because she didn't contact authorities when she first went "missing".
All Casey could think about was how her mom would react.. GMAfreakinB

:flamemad:

(not mad at you Sara - I'm only venting because Casey just infuriates me)

I know One2Snoop. I have the highest respect for you. My only point was if she gets off on mental illness it will be wrong. (my job used to be interiewing and telling the difference for lawyers). Not bragging. Just something I did for a long time and I am glad I am not doing it. I hope you don't think I am overbearing or know it all. She really does know and really does not care about anyone but herself. If and when she is in prison she would make a great study for female sociopaths for upcoming students. IMO

[SaraSidle]

On NG they showed her lawyer going into the house and speculated that she could be re-arrested soon on the ten additional charges. So, maybe tonight was it. Baez had told LE he wanted to bring her in the last time but that they (LE) turned it into a circus. Maybe they'll let him take her in this time.

Well rose there were cop cars their tonight and my camera quit working and DH has control of the remote and we will not be viewing NG or GVS. IMO

[One2Snoop]

Well rose there were cop cars their tonight and my camera quit working and DH has control of the remote and we will not be viewing NG or GVS. IMO

Thank god for transcripts and youtube LOL.

[One2Snoop]

I know One2Snoop. I have the highest respect for you. My only point was if she gets off on mental illness it will be wrong. (my job used to be interiewing and telling the difference for lawyers). Not bragging. Just something I did for a long time and I am glad I am not doing it. I hope you don't think I am overbearing or know it all. She really does know and really does not care about anyone but herself. If and when she is in prison she would make a great study for female sociopaths for upcoming students. IMO

Just a question - Do sociopaths know the difference between right and wrong? :shrug:

[One2Snoop]

Watching the re-cap of Nancy Grace - I'm learning alot tonight and really like her stand-in. Maybe its time for NG to retire LOL.
Anyhow lots of good questions being asked and one we discussed earlier today was about the dumpster/landfill. The person (producer) whose been on location and filling NG in on the latest just said the landfill had been checked. Interesting how it was kept hush hush until now.

[SaraSidle]

Just a question - Do sociopaths know the difference between right and wrong? :shrug:

yes they are deprived of morals. No one really knows if it is in birth or happens while they grow up. Like serial killers there is a belief there is not a bonding that occurs in the first couple of years of birth which is where it supposedly starts. Think of your serial killers. they knew what they were doing but did it anyways. In fact what if Casey had gone through with her plan and taken over the house and something awful happened to GA and CA. Maybe that is why the Chlorform search on the internet and they have a pool. I do not have any links One2Snoop but I would be happy to search for you if you want me to......................IMO

[SaraSidle]

Watching the re-cap of Nancy Grace - I'm learning alot tonight and really like her stand-in. Maybe its time for NG to retire LOL.
Anyhow lots of good questions being asked and one we discussed earlier today was about the dumpster/landfill. The person (producer) whose been on location and filling NG in on the latest just said the landfill had been checked. Interesting how it was kept hush hush until now.

I did see on another MB that it was checked about the time Equuasearch was there. They are maybe the ones who checked I am not sure but I do know it was about that time. that is one of the reasons I am having a hard time with the communications with LE and media............IMO

[soccermom]

I am watching the moblie web cam and i see one car and two guys sitting on chairs.

Is that the security?

Quiet there right now

[rosejustrose]

Watching the re-cap of Nancy Grace - I'm learning alot tonight and really like her stand-in. Maybe its time for NG to retire LOL.
Anyhow lots of good questions being asked and one we discussed earlier today was about the dumpster/landfill. The person (producer) whose been on location and filling NG in on the latest just said the landfill had been checked. Interesting how it was kept hush hush until now.

Yes, and it was interesting how easily they were able to locate the spot where the trash from the Amscot dumpster was placed. Apparently, a lot of these trucks are now using GPS to track dumping grounds. I guess it's to help LE in these types of circumstances. Thank goodness for technology. Now if they could invent something a little more sophisticated than a waterboard to make Casey tell the truth. JMHO.

[rosejustrose]

Well rose there were cop cars their tonight and my camera quit working and DH has control of the remote and we will not be viewing NG or GVS. IMO

They may have been there to keep the peace. Apparently, the last couple of Friday nights have been pretty contentious between the pro and con groups of protesters. What insanity! I read somewhere that this case is an example of how our society is evolving into a society of people who aren't afraid to express themselves and get involved. I guess that's a good thing. JMHO.

[applesandorange]

I think you're right. IIRC she said she was petrified by her mom's reaction to the news Caylee was missing. IMO, she was more concerned about her mom's consternation than what happened to Caylee. She may not know where Caylee is. Who knows what kind of shape she was in when she got rid of her. Didn't you think it was interesting how she said if she wanted to get rid of Caylee she'd just leave her with her mom and move out. She was real quick with that response. As though that one statement exonerated her from any suspicions. Sick girl, IMO.


I did think it was interesting. I thought that it must have been something she had already planned out to say. You know how sometimes you play conversations in your head? I think she must have planned to say this for a while. This is one excuse she came up for a while ago IMO.

[One2Snoop]

I am watching the moblie web cam and i see one car and two guys sitting on chairs.

Is that the security?

Quiet there right now

Yes, Casey's attorney hired security guards. :cool:

ETA:

Attorney Hires Guards To Keep Peace At Anthony Home

The bodyguards that escorted Casey Anthony, mother of missing toddler Caylee Anthony, out of the Orange County Jail the second time have been hired by Jose Baez, Anthony’s attorney, to keep the peace at the family’s East Orange County home.

The past two Friday nights have been chaotic with tension and emotions running between protesters and the Anthonys.

http://www.wesh.com/news/17458091/detail.html

[One2Snoop]

Watching the re-cap of Nancy Grace - I'm learning alot tonight and really like her stand-in. Maybe its time for NG to retire LOL.
Anyhow lots of good questions being asked and one we discussed earlier today was about the dumpster/landfill. The person (producer) whose been on location and filling NG in on the latest just said the landfill had been checked. Interesting how it was kept hush hush until now.

Yes, and it was interesting how easily they were able to locate the spot where the trash from the Amscot dumpster was placed. Apparently, a lot of these trucks are now using GPS to track dumping grounds. I guess it's to help LE in these types of circumstances. Thank goodness for technology. Now if they could invent something a little more sophisticated than a waterboard to make Casey tell the truth. JMHO.

I don't know about you, but I really liked the lady who hosted tonight. Transcript will be up soon and definitely worth discussing.

GPS can be a good thing in situations like this, IMO.

[One2Snoop]

I did think it was interesting. I thought that it must have been something she had already planned out to say. You know how sometimes you play conversations in your head? I think she must have planned to say this for a while. This is one excuse she came up for a while ago IMO.

Well, LOL she did have a script to go by. :rolleyes:

ETA:
Apologies for my sarcasim.

[SaraSidle]

Yes, and it was interesting how easily they were able to locate the spot where the trash from the Amscot dumpster was placed. Apparently, a lot of these trucks are now using GPS to track dumping grounds. I guess it's to help LE in these types of circumstances. Thank goodness for technology. Now if they could invent something a little more sophisticated than a waterboard to make Casey tell the truth. JMHO.

I hope so rose. Maybe they learned that from the Hacking case!!!!!!!

[rosejustrose]

Well, LOL she did have a script to go by. :rolleyes:

ETA:
Apologies for my sarcasim.


LOL. I, for one, appreciate well placed sarcasim. But remember it was a time-limited script good for only 30 days after that she could tell the truth.:eek:

[lighthousedazy]

They may have been there to keep the peace. Apparently, the last couple of Friday nights have been pretty contentious between the pro and con groups of protesters. What insanity! I read somewhere that this case is an example of how our society is evolving into a society of people who aren't afraid to express themselves and get involved. I guess that's a good thing. JMHO.ITA and I think we are also getting tired of the criminal having more rights than the victim. This is ashame. my opinion. :flamemad:

[SaraSidle]

Okay all of you. they did not arrest Casey as far as I know since my camera was not working. Apparently whoever it was with the flashing lights was talking to a protestor. I need to keep my mouth shut... and not listen to others. I am sorry..................IMo

[One2Snoop]

LOL. I, for one, appreciate well placed sarcasim. But remember it was a time-limited script good for only 30 days after that she could tell the truth.:eek:

LOL :punch: oh I forgot.

Didn't Tony also say she was a chronic liar? Seems like she had a script available 24/7 IMO.

In listening to the aduio and one of the detectives said to Casey, do you really think we're stupid? I still can't get over how she thought the detectives would believe her scripted story. LOL - I'm sorry, but puhhhhhleeeeessssse! :rolleyes: :cuss:

[One2Snoop]

Okay all of you. they did not arrest Casey as far as I know since my camera was not working. Apparently whoever it was with the flashing lights was talking to a protestor. I need to keep my mouth shut... and not listen to others. I am sorry..................IMo

I'm certain they said on NG tonight that she was going to be arrested again and that Baez wanted to surrender her without all the fanfare like last time.

Didn't you know? Those webcams don't work very well and freeze up when something important is going on. ;)

[One2Snoop]

ita and i think we are also getting tired of the criminal having more rights than the victim. This is ashame. My opinion. :flamemad:

ITA LHD! :beer:

[SaraSidle]

Yes the webcams do freeze up alot. Sometimes if u keep hitting refresh it will keep it running. Not always. Tapes sure were worth a listen today. Im from IS board-I think we were put in lock out mode on the Caylee thread.:rose:

Not again. I learn so much from your boards!!!!!!!!!!! But there sure are a few baiters I know................Welcome to Crime Library

[SaraSidle]

I'm certain they said on NG tonight that she was going to be arrested again and that Baez wanted to surrender her without all the fanfare like last time.

Didn't you know? Those webcams don't work very well and freeze up when something important is going on. ;)

LOL O2S yes I have learned that about the cameras and I am thinking it is a media game. Not like we do not have enough of them. I have been hearing about the arrest thing but not sure yet if I believe it or it is a scare tactic. I am pretty sure she could be bonded out on additional charges so what is the point except to put everyone one edge. More games IMO

[One2Snoop]

Yes the webcams do freeze up alot. Sometimes if u keep hitting refresh it will keep it running. Not always. Tapes sure were worth a listen today. Im from IS board-I think we were put in lock out mode on the Caylee thread.:rose:

Sorry you were locked out today. I know CW does that a lot and I find it irritating. Nothing will be locked here - all opinions are welcome. If someone feels the urge to name call and are out of control they most likely will be banned but thats up to the admin here.

Welcome to CL. :seeya:

[rosejustrose]

LOL :punch: oh I forgot.

Didn't Tony also say she was a chronic liar? Seems like she had a script available 24/7 IMO.

In listening to the aduio and one of the detectives said to Casey, do you really think we're stupid? I still can't get over how she thought the detectives would believe her scripted story. LOL - I'm sorry, but puhhhhhleeeeessssse! :rolleyes: :cuss:


She sure did underestimate those detectives, LOL. They knew she was lying before she took them on a wild goose chase to Universal. They just wanted to see how far she would go. She went pretty far, IMO. I think that's when they realized what a pyscho b/i/t/c/h they were dealing with. I thought they did a great job questioning her. But it amazes me how detached she was through the whole process, like it was no big deal. I think Cindy might just get the mother of the year award if she beats the truth out of that liar. Who knows, maybe that's what the gun was for, a good ole fashioned pistol whipping. IMO.

[One2Snoop]

She sure did underestimate those detectives, LOL. They knew she was lying before she took them on a wild goose chase to Universal. They just wanted to see how far she would go. She went pretty far, IMO. I think that's when they realized what a pyscho b/i/t/c/h they were dealing with. I thought they did a great job questioning her. But it amazes me how detached she was through the whole process, like it was no big deal. I think Cindy might just get the mother of the year award if she beats the truth out of that liar. Who knows, maybe that's what the gun was for, a good ole fashioned pistol whipping. IMO.

I agree they did a great job questioning her. I'm sure I'd have my whip out beating the crap out of her if she were my daughter.
Question? Are we dealing with a situation of "mother like daughter"? I'm begining to think George kept the pistol to protect himself from those 2 psychobi/tches IMO. :cool:

Look how much they fooled him already into believing kidnappers had Caylee - for gawds sake George get a grip and come back to reality. You're ex-LE, :no: you of all people should know better. :punch:

[lighthousedazy]

LOL :punch: oh I forgot.

Didn't Tony also say she was a chronic liar? Seems like she had a script available 24/7 IMO.

In listening to the aduio and one of the detectives said to Casey, do you really think we're stupid? I still can't get over how she thought the detectives would believe her scripted story. LOL - I'm sorry, but puhhhhhleeeeessssse! :rolleyes: :cuss:From what I gather, Tony only knew her about one month and he figured out she was a path liar. I would think her parents should have realized this. jmo

[rosejustrose]

Thank you that was very kind to welcome me. Yes i guess it must have gotten out of control at some point in the a.m. Seems this case gets everyone beyond frustration. Dont think i can recall a more bizzare one. How sad. Lets hope tomorrow will be the day Caylee is found.

Hi and welcome:seeya: I joined the IS board but never really got around to posting over there. I have seen some pretty wild posts so it doesn't surprise me that the mods closed it down to clean it up.

This is really a strange and very sad case. How does a mother lose her child for 31 days before letting anyone else know she has a major big problem?:shrug: They say that all pathological liars build their lies around one tiny kernel of truth. Sadly, I think the truth is that Casey doesn't know what she did with Caylee. IMO, Caylee died because of Casey's actions. Casey panicked and got rid of the body. But, I think Casey did so in a state of mind like that of a black out drunk. She may have been drunk or on drugs but she may also have been in a frantic state of fear because of what her own mother would think of her. It was pretty clear from the interviews she fears her mother's opinion of her. IMO, she could have experienced a fugue state and really can't remember what happened with Caylee. Maybe it's just me and my upbringing, but I just can't believe that a 22 year old can be that cold-blooded and callous to lie about her little girl and not even experience a crack in her voice. Even when she was denying knowing where Caylee was she did so with such conviction that it was frightening to hear. Did anyone else notice or is absolutely Casey's favorite word? JMHO.

[SaraSidle]

I agree they did a great job questioning her. I'm sure I'd have my whip out beating the crap out of her if she were my daughter.
Question? Are we dealing with a situation of "mother like daughter"? I'm begining to think George kept the pistol to protect himself from those 2 psychobi/tches IMO. :cool:

Look how much they fooled him already into believing kidnappers had Caylee - for gawds sake George get a grip and come back to reality. You're ex-LE, :no: you of all people should know better. :punch:

You know One2Snoop you bring up some good points. Again I apologize for the lateness of the hour and lack of links but Casey really is afraid of Cindy. She even states that. Makes me believe that both of them know Casey is a chronic liar. But on the other hand I think Cindy loved Caylee like a daughter and is playing a deep denial neurotic game with herself that she cannot control. so maybe the bond is posted because CIndy really is the biggest threat to Casey. Same goes with the arrests and threats of arrests. This is putting a lot of stress on Cindy more than anyone cause as she stated she lost one and did not want to lose another. And she is such an emotianally charged person she may go off on Casey or spill something she knows. it is more probably that she will spill if she knows anything than Caylee. Caylee will continue to lie till she is out of prison. IMO

[SaraSidle]

I thought the tapes were very interesting. I would luv to know if it really was true when the LE stated to her that it was a lie when Casey said she dropped Caylee at the Nanny's outside the apt. on the stairs. LE said they reviewed a security tape and she was not on it. LE are allowed to make untrue statements as i am sure you's know during questioning. I truly hope they do have a security tape. I wish he would have asked a couple of other things-why drop her at a sitters when u have no job. Where did u go during these supposed babysitting hours. Also found it interesting she said she dropped her off at the Nanny's on the stairs outside the apt. I would have pressed it further. Was the nanny outside waiting,was this usual practice etc. etc. Not that i believe a word she says. I would have luved it if they really had pressured her by asking and pounding away for details to trip her up. Liars eventually forget all their lies when it gets detailed.


I remember you from the other board cause I have always liked that nic. I do not pay attention to her "script" because I always know it is going to change depending on the evidence. What scares me is that there will not be enough evidence beemeup. And she will do the fraud charges and be done IMO

[One2Snoop]

From what I gather, Tony only knew her about one month and he figured out she was a path liar. I would think her parents should have realized this. jmo

I have no doubt they knew she was a pathological liar - but when it comes to a missing child, their grandchild, I don't understand why they would continue to cover for her? I can't see myself ever covering for my daughters wrong doings. I have teens and they've done wrong - and neither my husband or I have ever covered or made excuses for their decisions. They need to learn from their mistakes, IMO.

Simply said, Cindy bailed Casey out - even when she stole from her grandparents. I'm sorry but thats morally wrong IMO. Cindy didn't teach her daughter any morals whatsoever because she bailed her out at every turn. :no: There's something seriously wrong with that. JMO

[rosejustrose]

I agree they did a great job questioning her. I'm sure I'd have my whip out beating the crap out of her if she were my daughter.
Question? Are we dealing with a situation of "mother like daughter"? I'm begining to think George kept the pistol to protect himself from those 2 psychobi/tches IMO. :cool:

Look how much they fooled him already into believing kidnappers had Caylee - for gawds sake George get a grip and come back to reality. You're ex-LE, :no: you of all people should know better. :punch:

From what I gather, Tony only knew her about one month and he figured out she was a path liar. I would think her parents should have realized this. jmo

LOL about why George had the gun. And ITA, George should have known better. IIRC he stated to the media that the people who had Caylee were being watched and they knew it. Could that have been some sort of strange reference to the scrutiny on Casey or was he just doing the Anthony Lie Dance?

LHD - you're right. I read that Tony and Casey started dating mid- to late May and that he had met Caylee as did his friends. Her lies must have been pretty obvious and numerous for him to figure it out so quickly. Her parents know what she is. IIRC in one jailhouse call her mother told her she needed to stop lying. IIRC it was at that point Casey started to cuss at her. JMHO.

[One2Snoop]

I remember you from the other board cause I have always liked that nic. I do not pay attention to her "script" because I always know it is going to change depending on the evidence. What scares me is that there will not be enough evidence beemeup. And she will do the fraud charges and be done IMO

Fraud charges are up to 50 years and counting.....

Are they done yet?

[rosejustrose]

I thought the tapes were very interesting. I would luv to know if it really was true when the LE stated to her that it was a lie when Casey said she dropped Caylee at the Nanny's outside the apt. on the stairs. LE said they reviewed a security tape and she was not on it. LE are allowed to make untrue statements as i am sure you's know during questioning. I truly hope they do have a security tape. I wish he would have asked a couple of other things-why drop her at a sitters when u have no job. Where did u go during these supposed babysitting hours. Also found it interesting she said she dropped her off at the Nanny's on the stairs outside the apt. I would have pressed it further. Was the nanny outside waiting,was this usual practice etc. etc. Not that i believe a word she says. I would have luved it if they really had pressured her by asking and pounding away for details to trip her up. Liars eventually forget all their lies when it gets detailed.

I thought the same thing about the security tape. They told her they reviewed them and that the apt management was required to keep them for X # of days and I thought to myself, wait a minute, she says she dropped the baby off on June 9th, it's July 16 surely that's more than a few days. I think they did make that up to try to shake her. But, IIRC, she didn't respond to that line of questioning. I wish they would've asked more questions. The second interview cut off and it didn't sound like it was the end of the interview so I don't know what else they may have discussed. Unfortunately, she lawyered up and they haven't spoken to her since.:flamemad: JMHO.

[rosejustrose]

Fraud charges are up to 50 years and counting.....

Are they done yet?

I admit I didn't read the 400 pages yet and I didn't read all the charging documents. Did she get charged on the original charges Cindy made against her? The first 911 call was made claiming Casey stole money and a car. After listening to the interviews I see why they could say she stole the car, it's still in her parent's name and the money belonged to the grandfather. I wonder if Cindy ever pursued those charges or if the county did. I can't believe that using Amy H's checks and cleaning her out of $700 could get her 50 years. That's a long time but not long enough to pay her debt for what she did to Caylee. JMHO

[SaraSidle]

I thought the same thing about the security tape. They told her they reviewed them and that the apt management was required to keep them for X # of days and I thought to myself, wait a minute, she says she dropped the baby off on June 9th, it's July 16 surely that's more than a few days. I think they did make that up to try to shake her. But, IIRC, she didn't respond to that line of questioning. I wish they would've asked more questions. The second interview cut off and it didn't sound like it was the end of the interview so I don't know what else they may have discussed. Unfortunately, she lawyered up and they haven't spoken to her since.:flamemad: JMHO.

rose I hate to say this but no matter what the truth was and whenever they caught her in a lie she would make something up. Remember if she gets caught it may be the DP. So no matter what was said by LE in the interview she would have come upt with something. she is so pathological IMO

[One2Snoop]

LOL about why George had the gun. And ITA, George should have known better. IIRC he stated to the media that the people who had Caylee were being watched and they knew it. Could that have been some sort of strange reference to the scrutiny on Casey or was he just doing the Anthony Lie Dance?

LHD - you're right. I read that Tony and Casey started dating mid- to late May and that he had met Caylee as did his friends. Her lies must have been pretty obvious and numerous for him to figure it out so quickly. Her parents know what she is. IIRC in one jailhouse call her mother told her she needed to stop lying. IIRC it was at that point Casey started to cuss at her. JMHO.

I've met many storytellers in my day, even some on this message board but I've never read, heard or seen anything like Casey Anthony. I don't follow all the cases on this board, so in saying that I'm only going by the cases I've followed.

I just had a dream -

Casey Anthony and Scott Peterson met and what a nightmare. :eek:
:punch: :chicken:

[SaraSidle]

I admit I didn't read the 400 pages yet and I didn't read all the charging documents. Did she get charged on the original charges Cindy made against her? The first 911 call was made claiming Casey stole money and a car. After listening to the interviews I see why they could say she stole the car, it's still in her parent's name and the money belonged to the grandfather. I wonder if Cindy ever pursued those charges or if the county did. I can't believe that using Amy H's checks and cleaning her out of $700 could get her 50 years. That's a long time but not long enough to pay her debt for what she did to Caylee. JMHO

see and my opinion this is more games between casey, baez and le. Let us put more pressure on the Anthony family and see if something breaks. Even if she is convicted of the current charges does not mean should would serve that amount of time. I mean what else is the point? Arrest her and bond her out again? Stalling for time and media coverage I think

[SaraSidle]

I've met many storytellers in my day, even some on this message board but I've never read, heard or seen anything like Casey Anthony. I don't follow all the cases on this board, so in saying that I'm only going by the cases I've followed.

I just had a dream -

Casey Anthony and Scott Peterson met and what a nightmare. :eek:
:punch: chicken:

scarey thought O2S. I hope it never happens.

[SaraSidle]

Fraud charges are up to 50 years and counting.....

Are they done yet?

Sorry O2S I did not catch this until now. I am sure they are not done. I do not believe Casey's grandparents have entered into the charges yet. However as I have stated I am starting to think the charges may be part of a game. She cannot be recharged for neglect but we can keep charging her with finance crimes. yet she can be bonded out again and again. And even though the 10 charges equal 50 yrs she may not end up with that. I think LE is trying to make Casey,Baez and the Anthonys think with serious things to think about and some stress on the side. We also might be headed towards more wheeling and dealing. IMO

[SaraSidle]

I have no doubt they knew she was a pathological liar - but when it comes to a missing child, their grandchild, I don't understand why they would continue to cover for her? I can't see myself ever covering for my daughters wrong doings. I have teens and they've done wrong - and neither my husband or I have ever covered or made excuses for their decisions. They need to learn from their mistakes, IMO.

Simply said, Cindy bailed Casey out - even when she stole from her grandparents. I'm sorry but thats morally wrong IMO. Cindy didn't teach her daughter any morals whatsoever because she bailed her out at every turn. :no: There's something seriously wrong with that. JMO

O2S I am not disagreeing but at this point i think Cindy thought of both Casey and Caylee as her daughters and she is in so much denial not wanting to feel the pain she is defending Casey. Just a thought. do not know about George and do not care imo

[rosejustrose]

I've met many storytellers in my day, even some on this message board but I've never read, heard or seen anything like Casey Anthony. I don't follow all the cases on this board, so in saying that I'm only going by the cases I've followed.

I just had a dream -

Casey Anthony and Scott Peterson met and what a nightmare. :eek:
:punch: :chicken:

scarey thought O2S. I hope it never happens.

It will happen, in h#ll, IMO.

[rosejustrose]

O2S I am not disagreeing but at this point i think Cindy thought of both Casey and Caylee as her daughters and she is in so much denial not wanting to feel the pain she is defending Casey. Just a thought. do not know about George and do not care imo

ITA and IMO, in Casey's mind she was no longer the favorite little princess in the house. Threw a little jealousy into the pyschopathic soup and you've got a recipe for disaster. It also wouldn't surprise me if somewhere down the line we find out that Cindy fueled those jealous flames by throwing out little jibes like "Caylee is such a pleasure, Casey you were such a handful." or "I hope Caylee doesn't grow up to lie and steal", etc. That argument on Father's Day when Cindy told Casey she needed to leave may have been about Casey leaving and Caylee staying. Who knows, they're all whacked, IMO.

[rosejustrose]

This is off topic but I hope we all take a minute or two to offer up prayers and good wishes for our fellow Americans being battered by Hurricane Ike. It hasn't yet made landfall and it's already bashing the Texas coastline. God Bless and help them.

:rose:

[SaraSidle]

ITA and IMO, in Casey's mind she was no longer the favorite little princess in the house. Threw a little jealousy into the pyschopathic soup and you've got a recipe for disaster. It also wouldn't surprise me if somewhere down the line we find out that Cindy fueled those jealous flames by throwing out little jibes like "Caylee is such a pleasure, Casey you were such a handful." or "I hope Caylee doesn't grow up to lie and steal", etc. That argument on Father's Day when Cindy told Casey she needed to leave may have been about Casey leaving and Caylee staying. Who knows, they're all whacked, IMO.

Oh My Rose. I so totally see it and agree. I know Cindy is responsible for a lot but when it hits deep down inside it is going to be really bad. Talk about whacked now????

[SaraSidle]

This is off topic but I hope we all take a minute or two to offer up prayers and good wishes for our fellow Americans being battered by Hurricane Ike. It hasn't yet made landfall and it's already bashing the Texas coastline. God Bless and help them.

:rose:

yes I have been doing that all day and there are 2 posters here from there that we have not heard from. please offer a prayer

[SaraSidle]

LOL. I, for one, appreciate well placed sarcasim. But remember it was a time-limited script good for only 30 days after that she could tell the truth.:eek:

What else can you do after a while but be sarcastic? This is the most bizarre case I have ever read in my life. I think there is a circus put on by Le, Media and Anthonys. There really may be a script but not the one Casey is talking about. People are going to make a fortune on this one. IMO

[SaraSidle]

Hi and welcome:seeya: I joined the IS board but never really got around to posting over there. I have seen some pretty wild posts so it doesn't surprise me that the mods closed it down to clean it up.

This is really a strange and very sad case. How does a mother lose her child for 31 days before letting anyone else know she has a major big problem?:shrug: They say that all pathological liars build their lies around one tiny kernel of truth. Sadly, I think the truth is that Casey doesn't know what she did with Caylee. IMO, Caylee died because of Casey's actions. Casey panicked and got rid of the body. But, I think Casey did so in a state of mind like that of a black out drunk. She may have been drunk or on drugs but she may also have been in a frantic state of fear because of what her own mother would think of her. It was pretty clear from the interviews she fears her mother's opinion of her. IMO, she could have experienced a fugue state and really can't remember what happened with Caylee. Maybe it's just me and my upbringing, but I just can't believe that a 22 year old can be that cold-blooded and callous to lie about her little girl and not even experience a crack in her voice. Even when she was denying knowing where Caylee was she did so with such conviction that it was frightening to hear. Did anyone else notice or is absolutely Casey's favorite word? JMHO.

rose this is a wonderful post IMO. You may be right on. Part of me thinks someone else is involved probably cause I cannot face a mother did it.

[One2Snoop]

What else can you do after a while but be sarcastic? This is the most bizarre case I have ever read in my life. I think there is a circus put on by Le, Media and Anthonys. There really may be a script but not the one Casey is talking about. People are going to make a fortune on this one. IMO

Sorry,I disagree. Casey is the main reason this story was brought to the for front.

JMO/IMO

[rosejustrose]

And I thought this was all about Caylee:shrug: But you are correct, Casey's bizarre behavior during the first 31 days that Caylee was missing is what captivated people. It is still so hard to reconcile all the photos and videos of a loving mother and child with the hard b/i/t/c/h who refuses to cooperate with LE to find her baby. It's like, WTH snapped? Casey is playing a very dangerous game of cat and mouse with LE and the media and she's loving every minute of the attention. IIRC, Ted Bundy also enjoyed the media's attention after he was captured in FL. He always had a smile for the cameras. JMHO.

[Woostock]

This case should focus on what happened to Caylee but since her mother is a sociopath she has managed to get a huge amount of attention-not necessarily good attention. People need to focus on the missing child but with all the other stuff going on, like book deals, paying for videos, Casey scooting out to the atty's office for 6 or 7 hrs a day when she should be in jail, etc. has captured the attention of the public---it's a really whacky case!!! Who is normal in that family???? nobody ! I just hope that the LE gets enough to convict that sociopath who was a poor excuse for a mother. Time is on her side; and it has been from the beginning.It just infuriates me that she had all that time when nobody wondered where Caylee was. It does seem a little strange that Cindy did not make more overtures to at least see Caylee during that time. If it were my grandchild I wouldn't have been able to let that amount of time go by without seeing her or at least talking on the phone. And there is no doubt that Cindy loved Caylee. Just as an aside, I recently became a grandmother. Unfortunately, my son and wife live miles away but you can rest assured as she gets older and can talk, there will be many phone conversations in addition to trips.

[4u2]

Wow, the thing that shocked me from watching NG last night, was that detective they were talking to. Before these tapes came out, I read the 400+ pgs. of it. I didn't catch what he mentioned.....how Casey was talking in past tense about Caylee - like she use to love to go to the park, etc.

Doesn't that say it all!:eek:

[rosejustrose]

This case should focus on what happened to Caylee but since her mother is a sociopath she has managed to get a huge amount of attention-not necessarily good attention. People need to focus on the missing child but with all the other stuff going on, like book deals, paying for videos, Casey scooting out to the atty's office for 6 or 7 hrs a day when she should be in jail, etc. has captured the attention of the public---it's a really whacky case!!! Who is normal in that family???? nobody ! I just hope that the LE gets enough to convict that sociopath who was a poor excuse for a mother. Time is on her side; and it has been from the beginning.It just infuriates me that she had all that time when nobody wondered where Caylee was. It does seem a little strange that Cindy did not make more overtures to at least see Caylee during that time. If it were my grandchild I wouldn't have been able to let that amount of time go by without seeing her or at least talking on the phone. And there is no doubt that Cindy loved Caylee. Just as an aside, I recently became a grandmother. Unfortunately, my son and wife live miles away but you can rest assured as she gets older and can talk, there will be many phone conversations in addition to trips.

Congratulations on your new granddaughter:rose:

From what little we know about what goes on in the Anthony home, it doesn't appear that any of them are "normal". You have Cindy comparing the smell of decomp with rotten pizza and alleging someone in the tow yard put someone else's body in the trunk:rolleyes: You have George claiming to know who has Caylee and stating they are being watched, yeah, OK. You have Lee playing amatuer detective on a jailhouse call with Casey and then, just yesterday, almost plowing down 3 protesters, 2 of them children, with his Mustang. Note to Lee - that will get you jail time if you hit anyone. I would categorize this family as dsyfunctional, not normal by any stretch of the imagination. JMHO.

[4u2]

Just thought of something else. As u can probably tell, I personally think Cindy knows what Casey did. At first during the 911 calls, she didn't but she sure has known for quite so time now....So as Cindy stated many times, Caylee is a good mother. Well than why was she trying to get custody of Caylee??:shrug: I guess the apple didn't fall far from the tree when it comes to lying.:punch:

[Woostock]

I really believe Cindy loved Caylee and was trying to give her the love and affection most people believe children need and she knew her daughter would not be a "model mother" After the month or so that Casey was gone and Cindy called the police, etc. and after a certain period it occurred to her that Casey was at some level connected with the missing Caylee. Maybe Casey actually told her what happened. Now what does she do? Caylee is gone for good; her daughter might be found guilty of murder and Fla has the death penalty.....
She tries to protect Casey. And there may be guilt that she had something to do with Casey and Caylee leaving for the month. Second guessing herself that she should have sent Casey packing and kept Caylee in a nurturing environment with her. I think the probability is high that Cindy knows her daughter is implicated-not sure if she knows exactly what Casey did.

[lorettalockhorn]

Casey spending so much time in Baez' office? I can't believe that LE or even her family won't publicly say "Hey! Get off your ass and tell us what's going on!"

I live in Ohio, but I will say that IF I lived down anywhere around Orlando, I would be doing some research and visiting Baez' office and finding a place for a bug or spy-webcam or something. Illegal or not!

Can LE bug his office if they suspect that she's talking about what happened? Probably not...

It seems somewhat asinine to me that the judge would put Casey under house arrest with C&G and then order them not to discuss the case, but I'll assume that may be one reason that she spends so much time at Baez's office.

I hope and pray that LE doesn't do anything harebrained or illegal to get information that wouldn't be admissible in court; fruit of the poisonous tree and all.

I'm more than a little confuzzled about why LE released the interview tapes to the public. What purpose do they serve other than to shrink the jury pool? And I do think the detectives talked too much. Sometimes silence is more conducive to getting a suspect to spill than constant reiteration. That's not a blanket criticism. I know they must be tired and frustrated and thank them for their tireless efforts.

[lorettalockhorn]

Just thought of something else. As u can probably tell, I personally think Cindy knows what Casey did. At first during the 911 calls, she didn't but she sure has known for quite so time now....So as Cindy stated many times, Caylee is a good mother. Well than why was she trying to get custody of Caylee??:shrug: I guess the apple didn't fall far from the tree when it comes to lying.:punch:

Wasn't she advised to gain custody? Why didn't she make a serious effort to do so? (Or maybe she did and we don't know) Ya know, sometimes the tree doesn't grow far from the apple; I really think that over time Cindy was just drawn into all of Casey's BS. Like folie a deux/shared psychosis.

[minga]

It seems somewhat asinine to me that the judge would put Casey under house arrest with C&G and then order them not to discuss the case, but I'll assume that may be one reason that she spends so much time at Baez's office.

I hope and pray that LE doesn't do anything harebrained or illegal to get information that wouldn't be admissible in court; fruit of the poisonous tree and all.

I hope you are right as well. They could totally destroy their case. But certainly they are smart enough to know better than to try tapping the lawyer's office. I wonder as well why release the tapes. :shrug:

I'm more than a little confuzzled about why LE released the interview tapes to the public. What purpose do they serve other than to shrink the jury pool? And I do think the detectives talked too much. Sometimes silence is more conducive to getting a suspect to spill than constant reiteration. That's not a blanket criticism. I know they must be tired and frustrated and thank them for their tireless efforts.

Silence can certainly be very powerful. I think that might have worked against Casey, seems like she is a talker. Silence in a small room with people watching you would become incredibly tense, she would probably have started blabbing all kinds of things in an effort to fill the void. Could have been interesting, could have been productive possibly. It's a shame they didn't try that tactic, it's definitely a lost opportunity.

Although in their defense they probably don't come across people like Casey very often, if ever. Maybe they will learn different interview skills for people devoid of conscience.

[minga]

Hi and welcome:seeya: I joined the IS board but never really got around to posting over there. I have seen some pretty wild posts so it doesn't surprise me that the mods closed it down to clean it up.

This is really a strange and very sad case. How does a mother lose her child for 31 days before letting anyone else know she has a major big problem?:shrug: They say that all pathological liars build their lies around one tiny kernel of truth. Sadly, I think the truth is that Casey doesn't know what she did with Caylee. IMO, Caylee died because of Casey's actions. Casey panicked and got rid of the body. But, I think Casey did so in a state of mind like that of a black out drunk. She may have been drunk or on drugs but she may also have been in a frantic state of fear because of what her own mother would think of her. It was pretty clear from the interviews she fears her mother's opinion of her. IMO, she could have experienced a fugue state and really can't remember what happened with Caylee. Maybe it's just me and my upbringing, but I just can't believe that a 22 year old can be that cold-blooded and callous to lie about her little girl and not even experience a crack in her voice. Even when she was denying knowing where Caylee was she did so with such conviction that it was frightening to hear. Did anyone else notice or is absolutely Casey's favorite word? JMHO.

I think honestly is running a very close second. :rolleyes:

[applesandorange]

I think honestly is running a very close second. :rolleyes:


Yes and the way she talks is very much like her mother. Some of the things she said and the way she said them reminded me very much of Cindy.

[Woostock]

Using the word "honestly" when you are a sociopath lier takes the cake! I just hope the LE cross all their "t s" and dot all their "i"s so when this goes to trial she gets what she deserves.

[4u2]

Using the word "honestly" when you are a sociopath lier takes the cake! I just hope the LE cross all their "t s" and dot all their "i"s so when this goes to trial she gets what she deserves.

:)I agree Woostock. She said honestly many times over.:cuss: She doesn't have an honest bone in her body.

I think the LE are taking their time to do everything right, that may be why they called off all the forsenic testing as Baez asked. Probably not because he asked, but because they knew what he was up to by being prepared to try and threw out a lot of the results from the tests when they go to trial, because he would have said they may have been tainted. So they know the results show the witch as having Caylee's decomposed body in her car -- so let Baez send in his experts to test.

[sharlock]

She is infuriating. Even after being outed as an unemployed liar, she still kept repeating that she dropped Caylee off and went to work. Urgggggggh!
I'm wondering if maybe she did have to work, I mean she had to support herself somehow? Break-ins, prostitution? I don't know I guess she could have just continued to steal off her mum though so she didn't need to work?

[Woostock]

What did she do all those days when she was no longer employed at Universal?
I wonder what Cindy thought she did for "work" ; since she needed a baby sitter/nanny she must have worked, right???? How in the world could Cindy not have known that Casey did not have a job. This family can have the psychoanalysts perplexed!!! What a family...nothing in that family makes sense! I guess we will have to wait for the trial to get some of our answers; but the most compelling answer is the location of Caylee; which, unfortunately, we may never know.

[rosejustrose]

I think honestly is running a very close second. :rolleyes:

Oh, minga, I couldn't agree more. For a pathological liar those two words would lend credibility to their statements, in their own minds, of course. They are extreme, they leave no doubt and they are unquestionable, to a pathological liar. I honestly, absolutely believe Casey killed Caylee. I'll just leave it at that. :cool: JMHO.

[SaraSidle]

I think honestly is running a very close second. :rolleyes:

Good one Minga

[SaraSidle]

You know I am beginning to wonder if the police have Casey at home to motivate the case to break wide open. With all the tension and stress under that roof something is going to explode. then you have the protestors, the house possibly bugged and Jose telling Casey not to talk to anyone about the case. In Jail she was removed and protected but not really stressed to talk. And we learned From Rob Dick that she talks non stop. I wonder if this home stay is to make something break. Now she has more indictments on her and knows she could be picked up anytime. And then the interview tapes released. I think LE is trying to break open the case this way. IMO

[Brainstorm]

I don't know about you, but I really liked the lady who hosted tonight. Transcript will be up soon and definitely worth discussing.

GPS can be a good thing in situations like this, IMO.

Diane Diamond,iirc? I really like her too. I used to watch trials on CTV and she was on there a lot.She is a great host,imo.

[rosejustrose]

I really believe Cindy loved Caylee and was trying to give her the love and affection most people believe children need and she knew her daughter would not be a "model mother" After the month or so that Casey was gone and Cindy called the police, etc. and after a certain period it occurred to her that Casey was at some level connected with the missing Caylee. Maybe Casey actually told her what happened. Now what does she do? Caylee is gone for good; her daughter might be found guilty of murder and Fla has the death penalty.....
She tries to protect Casey. And there may be guilt that she had something to do with Casey and Caylee leaving for the month. Second guessing herself that she should have sent Casey packing and kept Caylee in a nurturing environment with her. I think the probability is high that Cindy knows her daughter is implicated-not sure if she knows exactly what Casey did.

It's so very hard to know what was actually going on in the Anthony household but I have to wonder about their definition of love. It seems to me that Cindy's love may have been suffocating and controlling, at least where Casey was concerned. I'm not sure what it was where Caylee was concerned. I do believe that there was a deep feeling for Caylee, I'm just not sure I would define it as love in its purest sense. IMO, it was more a matter of ownership. If it was love in its true sense, IMO, Cindy would have beat the truth out of Casey. No, I take that back. She never would have let Casey leave the house with Caylee, she would have fought for custody. I think Caylee was a pawn in a sick and dangerous game between a controlling mother and mentally challenged girl who provided Cindy with the weapon she needed. JMHO.

[rosejustrose]

You know I am beginning to wonder if the police have Casey at home to motivate the case to break wide open. With all the tension and stress under that roof something is going to explode. then you have the protestors, the house possibly bugged and Jose telling Casey not to talk to anyone about the case. In Jail she was removed and protected but not really stressed to talk. And we learned From Rob Dick that she talks non stop. I wonder if this home stay is to make something break. Now she has more indictments on her and knows she could be picked up anytime. And then the interview tapes released. I think LE is trying to break open the case this way. IMO


ITA. In jail she was totally removed from any pressure to talk. Any conversations she had with her attorney were confidential and she refused visits from anyone who could be taped and made no phone calls. IMO, no pressure. No doubt, Casey is a talker, most pathological liars are. Keeping her in the house must be h#ll for her and her family. How can the subject of Caylee NOT come up? It's hanging in the air like LA smog. IMO, she won't break, she has a six hour reprieve everyday at her attorney's office. She's safe there. JMHO.

[Brainstorm]

It's so very hard to know what was actually going on in the Anthony household but I have to wonder about their definition of love. It seems to me that Cindy's love may have been suffocating and controlling, at least where Casey was concerned. I'm not sure what it was where Caylee was concerned. I do believe that there was a deep feeling for Caylee, I'm just not sure I would define it as love in its purest sense. IMO, it was more a matter of ownership. If it was love in its true sense, IMO, Cindy would have beat the truth out of Casey. No, I take that back. She never would have let Casey leave the house with Caylee, she would have fought for custody. I think Caylee was a pawn in a sick and dangerous game between a controlling mother and mentally challenged girl who provided Cindy with the weapon she needed. JMHO.

Wonder how long ago the counselor told Cindy to try for custody? IMO she probably "threatened" Casey with that,instead of really going for it,IMOO.

[rosejustrose]

Yes and the way she talks is very much like her mother. Some of the things she said and the way she said them reminded me very much of Cindy.

That is true. It's most likely a learned behavior and speech pattern. IIRC, Casey has always lived with her parents, she learned at their knees. Most of us pick up speech patterns in that way. Maybe someone needs to give Cindy a psychoanalysis. It wouldn't be a stretch for Casey to pick up some of Cindy's bad behavior over 22 years. JMHO.

[rosejustrose]

Wonder how long ago the counselor told Cindy to try for custody? IMO she probably "threatened" Casey with that,instead of really going for it,IMOO.

I don't recall reading or seeing anything about the date that Cindy met with a counselor. I would assume it was probably right after Casey stole the money from her grandfather's health care fund - that's pretty low. Apparently it disturbed Cindy enough that she did seek counselling, but I do think she used it as a hammer over Casey's head rather than an actuality. IMO, if Cindy sincerely sought custody of Caylee, Casey never would have had the opportunity to leave the house with her alone and we wouldn't be here discussing one of the most disturbing cases I've ever seen. JMHO.

[lorettalockhorn]

You know I am beginning to wonder if the police have Casey at home to motivate the case to break wide open. With all the tension and stress under that roof something is going to explode. then you have the protestors, the house possibly bugged and Jose telling Casey not to talk to anyone about the case. In Jail she was removed and protected but not really stressed to talk. And we learned From Rob Dick that she talks non stop. I wonder if this home stay is to make something break. Now she has more indictments on her and knows she could be picked up anytime. And then the interview tapes released. I think LE is trying to break open the case this way. IMO

Bugged! :eek: By whom? Will any information obtained be useful as in usable/admissible?

Someone needs to help us with the ins and outs of legal wiretapping, etc.

(Yeah, yeah I know. You're supposed to have more than one example before you use etc. I just can't right now!)

[rosejustrose]

Bugged! :eek: By whom? Will any information obtained be useful as in usable/admissible?

Someone needs to help us with the ins and outs of legal wiretapping, etc.

(Yeah, yeah I know. You're supposed to have more than one example before you use etc. I just can't right now!)

The other night on NG one of the LE experts stated that he wouldn't be surprised in the least if the Anthony house was bugged and that every keystroke Casey made was monitored under Title III. He sounded pretty sure of himself and NG seemed to agree. NeJame said the Anthonys didn't care if their house was bugged because they have nothing to hide. There's obviously more to this issue than I know and I haven't even looked up Title III LE entitlements so I don't know what it means. But, bottom line, it's likely the Anthony house is legally bugged. JMHO.

[lorettalockhorn]

The other night on NG one of the LE experts stated that he wouldn't be surprised in the least if the Anthony house was bugged and that every keystroke Casey made was monitored under Title III. He sounded pretty sure of himself and NG seemed to agree. NeJame said the Anthonys didn't care if their house was bugged because they have nothing to hide. There's obviously more to this issue than I know and I haven't even looked up Title III LE entitlements so I don't know what it means. But, bottom line, it's likely the Anthony house is legally bugged. JMHO.

Rose, I'm clueless about legal wiretaps.

But I have to wonder, despite the inadmissability of lie detector tests in court (for instance), if the Anthonys have nothing to hide; why didn't they take one? Just for the sake of establishing parameters.

Oh, and I also wonder about the Anthonys refusing to provide Caylee's personal items for search purposes. LE has her car seat and backpack, right? So they could use those. But is there some reason that the Anthonys don't want those items compared to Caylee's items from the home (and chosen at random by LE)?

[rosejustrose]

Rose, I'm clueless about legal wiretaps.

But I have to wonder, despite the inadmissability of lie detector tests in court (for instance), if the Anthonys have nothing to hide; why didn't they take one? Just for the sake of establishing parameters.

Oh, and I also wonder about the Anthonys refusing to provide Caylee's personal items for search purposes. LE has her car seat and backpack, right? So they could use those. But is there some reason that the Anthonys don't want those items compared to Caylee's items from the home (and chosen at random by LE)?

I'm clueless also about wiretaps on civilians involved in criminal cases. I understand national security issues but not this. IIRC, the Anthonys initially agreed to a lie detector test and then after discussing this with their son, Lee, they said no. Why? I have no clue, I can only speculate that he advised them that their doubts about Casey's guilt might come through. Why didn't they provide Caylee's clothing for the search purposes is anyone's guess. Maybe they're more culpable than anyone has suspected or maybe, like their attorney says, they are in such deep denial that by giving those items to LE they would feel as though they are admitting Caylee is gone for good. IMO, these people are torn between finding Caylee and defending their daughter. It must be a horrible position in life, but that's where they're at. They're damned if they do and damned if they don't. JMHO.

[rosejustrose]

A re-run of an earlier episode of NG is on here and LP is making me sick. He really turned when he didn't get what he wanted. IMO, anything he says needs to be taken with a half grain of salt. JMHO but he's not an honest man.

[SaraSidle]

ITA. In jail she was totally removed from any pressure to talk. Any conversations she had with her attorney were confidential and she refused visits from anyone who could be taped and made no phone calls. IMO, no pressure. No doubt, Casey is a talker, most pathological liars are. Keeping her in the house must be h#ll for her and her family. How can the subject of Caylee NOT come up? It's hanging in the air like LA smog. IMO, she won't break, she has a six hour reprieve everyday at her attorney's office. She's safe there. JMHO.

Rose excellent post LA smog is a perfect description of what I see. tY

[lorettalockhorn]

I'm clueless also about wiretaps on civilians involved in criminal cases. I understand national security issues but not this. IIRC, the Anthonys initially agreed to a lie detector test and then after discussing this with their son, Lee, they said no. Why? I have no clue, I can only speculate that he advised them that their doubts about Casey's guilt might come through. Why didn't they provide Caylee's clothing for the search purposes is anyone's guess. Maybe they're more culpable than anyone has suspected or maybe, like their attorney says, they are in such deep denial that by giving those items to LE they would feel as though they are admitting Caylee is gone for good. IMO, these people are torn between finding Caylee and defending their daughter. It must be a horrible position in life, but that's where they're at. They're damned if they do and damned if they don't. JMHO.

It's hard not to be suspicious of all of them. Lee included. I understand (to a degree) that C&G don't want to admit that Caylee may be dead. And my understanding is that cadaver dogs don't need a sample to search for her, but providing Caylee's belongings would give have given bloodhounds a trail to compare to Casey's story and her timelie. Oops Timeline.

So maybe that's the issue.

[SaraSidle]

A re-run of an earlier episode of NG is on here and LP is making me sick. He really turned when he didn't get what he wanted. IMO, anything he says needs to be taken with a half grain of salt. JMHO but he's not an honest man.

Nope I had high hopes in the very beginning but he is kind of like Casey. Every time he opens his mouth I believe less and less and less. Too bad. He may be good as a BH but people person he is not!!!!!!!!!! IMO

[SaraSidle]

It's hard not to be suspicious of all of them. Lee included. I understand (to a degree) that C&G don't want to admit that Caylee may be dead. And my understanding is that cadaver dogs don't need a sample to search for her, but providing Caylee's belongings would give have given bloodhounds a trail to compare to Casey's story and her timelie. Oops Timeline.

So maybe that's the issue.

On the other hand Loretta LE has tons of evidence with Caylee's odors on it. they took a lot of things from the house and found in the car was her doll, car seat,back pack and toothbrush. So I remain confused about many things here............. IMO

[lorettalockhorn]

On the other hand Loretta LE has tons of evidence with Caylee's odors on it. they took a lot of things from the house and found in the car was her doll, car seat,back pack and toothbrush. So I remain confused about many things here............. IMO

HAH! I stay confused! So okay, the Anthonys don't want to admit that Caylee is dead and they refuse to help with a cadaver search. Why not help with a live search?

No excuse that I can fathom. LE can use the items found in the car that are presumed to have been in contact with Caylee. Would items taken at random elicit the same response from bloodhounds?

[rosejustrose]

It's hard not to be suspicious of all of them. Lee included. I understand (to a degree) that C&G don't want to admit that Caylee may be dead. And my understanding is that cadaver dogs don't need a sample to search for her, but providing Caylee's belongings would give have given bloodhounds a trail to compare to Casey's story and her timelie. Oops Timeline.

So maybe that's the issue.

Loretta to a certain extent I agree. It's so easy to be suspicious of the Anthony family but I have to dig a little deeper and wonder why. They are in denial, to a certain extent. I imagine they all feel a great deal of guilt at what happened to Caylee and I do believe they know she is dead and that Casey was the cause of this death. They are rallying aroung Casey because to do otherwise would be to admit their own cupability in Caylee's death. They all allowed Casey, the cold blooded, callous person to live amongst them for her entire life, they catered to her, they nurtured her psychopathic personality by not confronting it. It must be devastating to them to realize that taking the easy road led to the death of this innocent little baby. IMO, the entire Anthony family needs to be taken to task for this tragedy, not just the emotionally stunted psychopath they call a daughter. This type of thing just doesn't happen in families where there is true love and caring, IMO. JMHO.

[rosejustrose]

Nope I had high hopes in the very beginning but he is kind of like Casey. Every time he opens his mouth I believe less and less and less. Too bad. He may be good as a BH but people person he is not!!!!!!!!!! IMO

On the other hand Loretta LE has tons of evidence with Caylee's odors on it. they took a lot of things from the house and found in the car was her doll, car seat,back pack and toothbrush. So I remain confused about many things here............. IMO

Sara, hope all is well! I agree. Everytime that idiot opens his mouth his credibility is shot. But hey, he has a realtity TV show coming up. I just can't stand him anymore. I also agree that LE has enough "scent" evidence from the car to tracK Caylee. IMO, it's just too hard to do if you don't know where to start. Mom, Casey, hasn't provided them with that information and she won't, IMO.

[rosejustrose]

HAH! I stay confused! So okay, the Anthonys don't want to admit that Caylee is dead and they refuse to help with a cadaver search. Why not help with a live search?

No excuse that I can fathom. LE can use the items found in the car that are presumed to have been in contact with Caylee. Would items taken at random elicit the same response from bloodhounds?

Good points and way too logical for this case. IIRC, LE never really brought dogs out to search for an alive Caylee. Where would they start? Casey was never really forthcoming about that information. IIRC, LE came out with the cadaver dogs, I don't know if they can track a live human being and Casey certainly didn't provide enough information to give them a ground zero. I think we're all confused. The Anthony's keep on pleading with the public to search for a live Caylee but they refuse to help by providing those few bits of clothing that can get things started. IMO, they realize the effort would be fruitless, they know precious little Caylee is dead. JMHO.

[lorettalockhorn]

I've already stated that I think there is a shared psychosis type of dysfunction in this family. Lawsy Y'all's preaching to the choir.

[lorettalockhorn]

Good points and way too logical for this case. IIRC, LE never really brought dogs out to search for an alive Caylee. Where would they start? Casey was never really forthcoming about that information. IIRC, LE came out with the cadaver dogs, I don't know if they can track a live human being and Casey certainly didn't provide enough information to give them a ground zero. I think we're all confused. The Anthony's keep on pleading with the public to search for a live Caylee but they refuse to help by providing those few bits of clothing that can get things started. IMO, they realize the effort would be fruitless, they know precious little Caylee is dead. JMHO.

LE would start with the information that Casey gave them. They may not be able to prove where Caylee was or is, but they could prove where she wasn't according to Casey's story(ies).

Just can't help but think and/or hope that there is plenty that they've ascertained that no one knows about and won't know until Discovery.

[BentNotBroken]

Hi, I have been reading these threads for a while now, and want to thank you all for the updates. I was in USA when this first came to light. Back home now, and I have not heard anything about this case on Australian News, unlike the Maddy McCann case was all over the world. Can someone tell me why that psychic is under investigation please? I cant seem to download videos. I hope they find Caylee soon, Im worried without a body, lil miss dumbarse physco woman might get away with this.

[Woostock]

I wouldn't be surprised if LE has a lot more than they are sharing. It will come out in discovery. Let's hope they will have enough! It's a tough case; and they have their hands full dealing with a sociopath. I don't imagine Casey will ever say much more; with sociopaths it's all about them.Casey is concerned about Casey. Right now she goes back and forth between parent's house and her atty's office......And she is a very accomplished lier....been doing it all her life.
I don't hold out any hope for her nor her family coming out with valuable information that would once and for all result with finding Caylee. Casey's parents won't even give LE a piece of Caylee's clothing....that tells a lot

[4u2]

Hi, I have been reading these threads for a while now, and want to thank you all for the updates. I was in USA when this first came to light. Back home now, and I have not heard anything about this case on Australian News, unlike the Maddy McCann case was all over the world. Can someone tell me why that psychic is under investigation please? I cant seem to download videos. I hope they find Caylee soon, Im worried without a body, lil miss dumbarse physco woman might get away with this.

Welcome Bentnotbroken :seeya: From what I understand about the psychic being under investigation was due to the fact that (someone) allowed her and her team to use their cc for a hotel stay for 3 nights. The person is saying that she stayed longer and continued to use their cc for up to $2,000.00 without permission. Psychic stated that she didn't and was on her way home.

[4u2]

I wouldn't be surprised if LE has a lot more than they are sharing. It will come out in discovery. Let's hope they will have enough! It's a tough case; and they have their hands full dealing with a sociopath. I don't imagine Casey will ever say much more; with sociopaths it's all about them.Casey is concerned about Casey. Right now she goes back and forth between parent's house and her atty's office......And she is a very accomplished lier....been doing it all her life.
I don't hold out any hope for her nor her family coming out with valuable information that would once and for all result with finding Caylee. Casey's parents won't even give LE a piece of Caylee's clothing....that tells a lot
I agree :beer:
I just saw a screaming match on tv with Cindy and 1 of the protestors. Couldn't really hear much clearly, but protestor called Casey a baby killer and Cindy started screaming at her. IMO, I have heard people ask, why isn't the family out on the searches looking for Caylee, dead or alive.....well let's all be honest and realistic ---- just picture George, Cindy and Lee out in the fields, as one of the searchers - do you really think anything would be accomplished that day ----everyone would be screaming and fighting and name calling, etc. :cuss: Believe me, I am not sticking up for them in NO way. But we do have to be realistic.

[rosejustrose]

I agree :beer:
I just saw a screaming match on tv with Cindy and 1 of the protestors. Couldn't really hear much clearly, but protestor called Casey a baby killer and Cindy started screaming at her. IMO, I have heard people ask, why isn't the family out on the searches looking for Caylee, dead or alive.....well let's all be honest and realistic ---- just picture George, Cindy and Lee out in the fields, as one of the searchers - do you really think anything would be accomplished that day ----everyone would be screaming and fighting and name calling, etc. :cuss: Believe me, I am not sticking up for them in NO way. But we do have to be realistic.

Good points! ITA. It would not be in anyone's best interests for them to go out on the searches. JMHO.

[rosejustrose]

Hi, I have been reading these threads for a while now, and want to thank you all for the updates. I was in USA when this first came to light. Back home now, and I have not heard anything about this case on Australian News, unlike the Maddy McCann case was all over the world. Can someone tell me why that psychic is under investigation please? I cant seem to download videos. I hope they find Caylee soon, Im worried without a body, lil miss dumbarse physco woman might get away with this.

Welcome to CL! Hope you post here often:seeya:

[INGASON14]

I agree :beer:
I just saw a screaming match on tv with Cindy and 1 of the protestors. Couldn't really hear much clearly, but protestor called Casey a baby killer and Cindy started screaming at her. IMO, I have heard people ask, why isn't the family out on the searches looking for Caylee, dead or alive.....well let's all be honest and realistic ---- just picture George, Cindy and Lee out in the fields, as one of the searchers - do you really think anything would be accomplished that day ----everyone would be screaming and fighting and name calling, etc. :cuss: Believe me, I am not sticking up for them in NO way. But we do have to be realistic.

Good post. I think that if the Anthony's were out there searching from day one this might not be happening. As a mother and grandmother I would be doing everything to clear myself and out there day and night looking for my child/grandchild until she was found. I would be using the media to assist and not make them the enemy. I think the Anthony's actions speak volumes. There were some things that were said theat make me think they know or had a hand in the cover up.

George saying that the dead body in his daughters car was not his granddaughter. To me he is admitting that there was a dead body in the car so who was it.


***This is my opinion

[Woostock]

What are the chances by now of ever finding a body? In the beginning, I hoped and prayed that if she were dead that at least the body would be found. Now I can't imagine that happening and I shudder to think of the alternative. It makes me sick to my stomach. I think the case will go forward without a body ever being found. Iwould imagine that the LE will do their best--the facts so far are so compelling that justice for Caylee is paramount.

[rosejustrose]

What are the chances by now of ever finding a body? In the beginning, I hoped and prayed that if she were dead that at least the body would be found. Now I can't imagine that happening and I shudder to think of the alternative. It makes me sick to my stomach. I think the case will go forward without a body ever being found. Iwould imagine that the LE will do their best--the facts so far are so compelling that justice for Caylee is paramount.


Good morning, Woostock! I hope you are having a wonderful Sunday!

I guess it will all depend on how Casey disposed of Caylee's body. LE had advised the searchers to look for garbage bags and a rug. IMO, if Casey sealed Caylee's body in a bag and it stayed sealed, LE maybe able to recover her remains intact. But I think it will also depend on where she put Caylee. If she disposed of her in those alligator waters I don't think she'll ever be found. All the flooding down there recently certainly will make it more difficult to locate a tiny little body like Caylee. It makes me sick to my stomach to think of poor little Caylee out in the elements decomposing while her cold blooded b/i/t/c/h of a mother enjoys meat lover's pizza:flamemad: Don't you wonder what goes on in Casey's head? Does she ever think about the living Caylee and what is happening to her little body now? It's beyond my ability to make sense of that creep but I don't know how she can sleep at night. JMHO.

[Brainstorm]

Good morning, Woostock! I hope you are having a wonderful Sunday!

I guess it will all depend on how Casey disposed of Caylee's body. LE had advised the searchers to look for garbage bags and a rug. IMO, if Casey sealed Caylee's body in a bag and it stayed sealed, LE maybe able to recover her remains intact. But I think it will also depend on where she put Caylee. If she disposed of her in those alligator waters I don't think she'll ever be found. All the flooding down there recently certainly will make it more difficult to locate a tiny little body like Caylee. It makes me sick to my stomach to think of poor little Caylee out in the elements decomposing while her cold blooded b/i/t/c/h of a mother enjoys meat lover's pizza:flamemad: Don't you wonder what goes on in Casey's head? Does she ever think about the living Caylee and what is happening to her little body now? It's beyond my ability to make sense of that creep but I don't know how she can sleep at night. JMHO.

I think she's probably sleeping well,she is getting all this attention. I wish,every time she did try to rest, she would feel alligators nipping at her.Nightmares,beyond any horror movie,should invade her rest.
OH! I bet Casey is getting her due. She hasnt been out for SEX in a while!!!
Poor trashy *****,isnt getting what she was aiming for after all, freedom to#### !!!!!

[4u2]

Good morning, Woostock! I hope you are having a wonderful Sunday!

I guess it will all depend on how Casey disposed of Caylee's body. LE had advised the searchers to look for garbage bags and a rug. IMO, if Casey sealed Caylee's body in a bag and it stayed sealed, LE maybe able to recover her remains intact. But I think it will also depend on where she put Caylee. If she disposed of her in those alligator waters I don't think she'll ever be found. All the flooding down there recently certainly will make it more difficult to locate a tiny little body like Caylee. It makes me sick to my stomach to think of poor little Caylee out in the elements decomposing while her cold blooded b/i/t/c/h of a mother enjoys meat lover's pizza:flamemad: Don't you wonder what goes on in Casey's head? Does she ever think about the living Caylee and what is happening to her little body now? It's beyond my ability to make sense of that creep but I don't know how she can sleep at night. JMHO.

IMO, I think Casey has already written Caylee off (what a damn shame, I hated to even type that) This is what I see: First we see on TV that she is out partying having a real good time. Next on reading those 400+ documents - friend Jesse said that Casey erased over 200 photo's of Caylee on her myspace page. And then don't forget about the tatoo she got that said, Beautful Life................. :flamemad::flamemad::flamemad::flamemad: All after Caylee was missing - no question in my mind what the lying **** is thinking.

[Woostock]

Rose just Rose
She has been called a sociopath...by definition they lack empathy. I know what you mean. It actually makes me sick to think of poor Caylee and I try not to think that she was in a body of water in Fla. I agree with you that it's almost beyond imagining that a mother could do this to a child. She is beyond evil if in fact she did something like dispose of her daughter in the alligator infested waters.
My best guess is she will go to court not saying a word. She is out of jail and wants to keep it that way so will stall and stall. Casey is only interested in Casey. It's all about Casey and control. And as far as her parents are concerned, they need to do something to make her talk. d on't care how they do it . If they don't they are a piece of sh...... Tell her she's going back to the slammer. She has 10 min to tell the truth or will send her back...
My guess is she's been getting away with telling lies and creating chaos her whole life and the situation was either screaming matches between her and the family or the parents just looking the other way and letting her manipulate and lie.

[applesandorange]

Many people have said they believe Casey doesn't know where Caylee is. While listening to her interviews; everytime she is asked about Caylee she says she doesn't know where she is. She never says Caylee isn't dead. She never says that in fact Caylee is alive. She just always says she doesn't know where she is. She also said someone else had Caylee. SO what if something happened to Caylee be it accident or other and someone else was there when Casey found Caylee dead. What if Casey freaked out so the other person took Caylee to dispose of her. While the other person is gone Casey then tries to call her parents numerous times. She's calling to say hey something is wrong with Caylee and so and so took her. I don't know what to do. I have read that there is always a little kernel of truth in Casey's lies. I'm not saying this is what happened but it could have. JMO

[One2Snoop]

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IMO, I think Casey has already written Caylee off (what a damn shame, I hated to even type that) This is what I see: First we see on TV that she is out partying having a real good time. Next on reading those 400+ documents - friend Jesse said that Casey erased over 200 photo's of Caylee on her myspace page. And then don't forget about the tatoo she got that said, Beautful Life................. :flamemad::flamemad::flamemad::flamemad: All after Caylee was missing - no question in my mind what the lying **** is thinking.


:eek: She erased photo's off her myspace of Caylee? Somehow I missed that. OMG. :flamemad: :cuss:

[SaraSidle]

Good points! ITA. It would not be in anyone's best interests for them to go out on the searches. JMHO.

ITA also. very good point IMO

[lighthousedazy]

Today in the checkout line at Walmart, I saw a title on the Globe Magazine - "Little Caylee"; "Monster Mom's Lover Tells All". There was a picture of Caylee and a picture of Casey and Tony, but I did not buy the mag or read the story. I never trust what is said in those rag mags, but you never know. jmo

[SaraSidle]

Today in the checkout line at Walmart, I saw a title on the Globe Magazine - "Little Caylee"; "Monster Mom's Lover Tells All". There was a picture of Caylee and a picture of Casey and Tony, but I did not buy the mag or read the story. I never trust what is said in those rag mags, but you never know. jmo

Well LHD I just watched CNN and there was nothing so you spent you money wisely. IMO

[Brainstorm]

:eek: She erased photo's off her myspace of Caylee? Somehow I missed that. OMG. :flamemad: :cuss:

I remember reading that or hearing it, somewhere. IMO, she is PURE EVIL.

[Woostock]

I heard that, too. (Caylees' photos were off the MySpace) I wonder what she would say if asked why she did that? oooops I think I know...it caused her too much heartache looking at the photos and wondering where her beloved child was....

[SaraSidle]

Well I just found out I was wrong fox is saying that Anthonys are accusing some male and it is supposed to be on the Geraldo show. I do not know when the show is and I do not have a link yet. If I find out more I will let you know..............IMO

[dan_uk]

just looking around the internet and found this,

Eyewitness News received a tip saying a new concrete slab was poured in the anthonys backyard over the July 4th weekend. That would be just days before the family called deputies about the missing girl, and nearly a month after her mother says she last saw the girl.”

[SaraSidle]

Well I just found out I was wrong fox is saying that Anthonys are accusing some male and it is supposed to be on the Geraldo show. I do not know when the show is and I do not have a link yet. If I find out more I will let you know..............IMO

http://www.foxnews.com/geraldo/index.html

this is the link however it was on last night per the link. IMO

[4u2]

just looking around the internet and found this,

Eyewitness News received a tip saying a new concrete slab was poured in the anthonys backyard over the July 4th weekend. That would be just days before the family called deputies about the missing girl, and nearly a month after her mother says she last saw the girl.”


Dan-uk - you are not going to believe this:in the 400+ legal documents that I read a week or so ago, I noted afew things I thought were strange - and guess what?? On page 337-338, I will copy it here, the det. were questioning her good friend that she knew from 5 or 6 yrs. old Ryan Pasley - I wonder if this is the tip they are talking about: he states about the slab of concrete http://www.orlandosentinel.com/media/acrobat/2008-08/41844520.pdf

[SaraSidle]

just looking around the internet and found this,

Eyewitness News received a tip saying a new concrete slab was poured in the anthonys backyard over the July 4th weekend. That would be just days before the family called deputies about the missing girl, and nearly a month after her mother says she last saw the girl.”

Dan I heard about that and then someone else said it was some bricks laid not cement. I have also heard that LE has checked the entire back yard and there are no bodies............................IMO

[lorettalockhorn]

just looking around the internet and found this,

Eyewitness News received a tip saying a new concrete slab was poured in the anthonys backyard over the July 4th weekend. That would be just days before the family called deputies about the missing girl, and nearly a month after her mother says she last saw the girl.”

Hasn't the Anthony's yard been searched and cleared?

http://www.local6.com/news/16915353/detail.html

[4u2]

Hey wait a minute, I remember seeing Cindy on tv telling one of the reporters and walking them thru the back yard, showing them where the dogs were searching and I definitely remember her, stating that she just (poured concrete or just redid her flower bed near the edge of the house) something along that line.:eek: OMG, do you think that is what Casey meant when she told her brother on the telephone from jail that her hunch was: I think she is close to home!!!! :eek: That statement always haunted me over and over again.

[4u2]

Dan I heard about that and then someone else said it was some bricks laid not cement. I have also heard that LE has checked the entire back yard and there are no bodies............................IMO

It may have been bricks, but when det. said the yard was cleared - did they actually dig up the bricks or slate or whatever? When the show was on, don't know which one it was, they showed the section that Cindy said she had recently done - it didn't look all dug up to me - unless she fixed it up after they dug it up. Just don't know:shrug:

[dan_uk]

the more this case goes on the more i think that

casey = killed caylee
george = got rid of the body
cindy = got rid of the body with george
lee = has got agood idea whats happened but isnt 100% sure

but i could be wrong

[dan_uk]

does anybody watch that webcam outside the anthonys house?

just watched about 15 mins of it and looks like the crowds building up outside the house again

[One2Snoop]

does anybody watch that webcam outside the anthonys house?

just watched about 15 mins of it and looks like the crowds building up outside the house again

I don't see the security guards - I imagine it would get pricey having them there every single day.

[rosejustrose]

does anybody watch that webcam outside the anthonys house?

just watched about 15 mins of it and looks like the crowds building up outside the house again

Hey Dan! How are you tonight? I've been watching, too. Those are the folks there to attend tonight's vigil. I wonder if the greiving mom, Casey, will join the crowd in praying for her missing and most likely dead daughter. JMO.

[rosejustrose]

I don't see the security guards - I imagine it would get pricey having them there every single day.

They were there earlier today talking with George. Apparently they help set up for the vigil, IMO.

[One2Snoop]

Link - Cindy Anthony Clashes With Protesters (http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2008/9/14/cindy_anthony_clashes_with_protesters.html)

Have you guys watched this? :no:

[One2Snoop]

Well I just found out I was wrong fox is saying that Anthonys are accusing some male and it is supposed to be on the Geraldo show. I do not know when the show is and I do not have a link yet. If I find out more I will let you know..............IMO

http://www.foxnews.com/geraldo/index.html

this is the link however it was on last night per the link. IMO

I don't see any of the other news outlets reporting this. I wonder where this info came from? :confused:

[dan_uk]

Hey Dan! How are you tonight? I've been watching, too. Those are the folks there to attend tonight's vigil. I wonder if the greiving mom, Casey, will join the crowd in praying for her missing and most likely dead daughter. JMO.im good thanks rose,how are you?i thought the crowd was there to hang casey from a lamp post :D.

got more chance of seeing santa and elvis riding a flying pig than casey joining in the vigil :D

[dan_uk]

Have you guys watched this? :no:is that the one with cindy and the woman in a white shirt? just wished the woman would of knocked cindy out :D

[rosejustrose]

Hey Dan! How are you tonight? I've been watching, too. Those are the folks there to attend tonight's vigil. I wonder if the greiving mom, Casey, will join the crowd in praying for her missing and most likely dead daughter. JMO.

Sorry, when they set up chairs I thought they were there for the vigil. The sherriff stopped by and told them to move their chairs. Apparently, they're protesters.

[rosejustrose]

Have you guys watched this? :no:

The extended version is just horrible. There were no winners there last night. They all stooped so low. And the little boy. What a potty mouth. And his mom said he learned that in school. Yeah, right. JMO.

[dan_uk]

Sorry, when they set up chairs I thought they were there for the vigil. The sherriff stopped by and told them to move their chairs. Apparently, they're protesters.surprised the police dont arrest them for disturbing the peace

[One2Snoop]

Sorry, when they set up chairs I thought they were there for the vigil. The sherriff stopped by and told them to move their chairs. Apparently, they're protesters.

I was just getting ready to ask what happened to the people in the chairs LOL. Thanks for the info

[Brainstorm]

Looks to me like some of them are pacing back and forth.That big girl in the light grey top, I bet she hasnt walked that much in the last year, all total, IMOO

[One2Snoop]

The extended version is just horrible. There were no winners there last night. They all stooped so low. And the little boy. What a potty mouth. And his mom said he learned that in school. Yeah, right. JMO.

Yeah, that was pretty bad.

[dan_uk]

Looks to me like some of them are pacing back and forth.That big girl in the light grey top, I bet she hasnt walked that much in the last year, all total, IMOOunless she walks to burger king and mcdonalds :D

[One2Snoop]

Looks to me like some of them are pacing back and forth.That big girl in the light grey top, I bet she hasnt walked that much in the last year, all total, IMOO

:eek: Brainstorm! ROFLMAO!

[lorettalockhorn]

http://www.foxnews.com/geraldo/index.html

this is the link however it was on last night per the link. IMO

I saw that and it said it was pre-empted. They showed it anyway? :confused:

And no one else has this information still? Sheesh

[Brainstorm]

unless she walks to burger king and mcdonalds :D

LOL, and she's probably a perfect person,too.

[dan_uk]

looks like she getting a sweat on now with all that walking,i think she needs to sit down before she falls down

[Brainstorm]

OMG.....dan, wonder if thats her sister,there also?

[dan_uk]

its the familys weekly night out lol

the one in the red shirt?

[Brainstorm]

NG is on LIVE tonite! (?)

[Brainstorm]

its the familys weekly night out lol

the one in the red shirt?

yeh, the red shirt. They favor, to me.

[dan_uk]

is that her off cnn?

[One2Snoop]

looks like she getting a sweat on now with all that walking,i think she needs to sit down before she falls down

http://img2.mysmiley.net/imgs/smile/sign/sign0004.gif (http://www.mysmiley.net/free-love-smileys.php)
http://img2.mysmiley.net/imgs/smile/party/party0018.gif (http://www.mysmiley.net/free-unhappy-smileys.php)

[dan_uk]

im just waiting now for the man on a bike bringing a take away pizza lol

[odette]

Looks to me like some of them are pacing back and forth.That big girl in the light grey top, I bet she hasnt walked that much in the last year, all total, IMOO

. . http://i34.tinypic.com/2djustk.gif

[SaraSidle]

It may have been bricks, but when det. said the yard was cleared - did they actually dig up the bricks or slate or whatever? When the show was on, don't know which one it was, they showed the section that Cindy said she had recently done - it didn't look all dug up to me - unless she fixed it up after they dug it up. Just don't know:shrug:

Yes I totally agree with you! and dan. I just do not know and we do not have any information. very frustrating.........

[SaraSidle]

I saw that and it said it was pre-empted. They showed it anyway? :confused:

And no one else has this information still? Sheesh

I think it is very suspect..........I bet they were going to get sued and dropped it.........IMO

[Brainstorm]

Hi odette. Ya'll watching NG? Unbelievable, the defense wants testing to stop !!!!
SOMEONE FORGOT TO TELL THEM, LE is hunting a child, NOT worried about a client, IMO. !!!!!!!

[One2Snoop]

Hi odette. Ya'll watching NG? Unbelievable, the defense wants testing to stop !!!!
SOMEONE FORGOT TO TELL THEM, LE is hunting a child, NOT worried about a client, IMO. !!!!!!!



I think thats a re-run from Thursday night.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b53B_Hfoc2Q

[lorettalockhorn]

It may have been bricks, but when det. said the yard was cleared - did they actually dig up the bricks or slate or whatever? When the show was on, don't know which one it was, they showed the section that Cindy said she had recently done - it didn't look all dug up to me - unless she fixed it up after they dug it up. Just don't know:shrug:

Do the bricks or the cement have to be literally removed/dug up? Wouldn't cadaver dogs hit anyway? Does LE use GIS technology?

I think it is very suspect..........I bet they were going to get sued and dropped it.........IMO

Geraldo was going to be sued? The Anthonys? By the new suspect?

[Brainstorm]

I think thats a re-run from Thursday night.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b53B_Hfoc2Q

LOL, no wonder it looked, sounded familiar. I thought I was just good, when I knew what the panel was gonna say, LOL.

[lighthousedazy]

Do the bricks or the cement have to be literally removed/dug up? Wouldn't cadaver dogs hit anyway? Does LE use GIS technology?



Geraldo was going to be sued? The Anthonys? By the new suspect?
I don't have a link, but following the Tara Grinstead case, one of the expert cadaver dog trainers from Jesup, Ga., said the dogs could scent through concrete. She said the dogs had even alerted on some old Civil War graves. Just from memory.

[rosejustrose]

I don't have a link, but following the Tara Grinstead case, one of the expert cadaver dog trainers from Jesup, Ga., said the dogs could scent through concrete. She said the dogs had even alerted on some old Civil War graves. Just from memory.

I seem to recall reading that on one of the older threads when I was reading up on Tara's case. Another tragic case of someone just disappearing from the face of the earth. My God, what is this world coming to? JMO

[rosejustrose]

Looks to me like some of them are pacing back and forth.That big girl in the light grey top, I bet she hasnt walked that much in the last year, all total, IMOO

unless she walks to burger king and mcdonalds :D

looks like she getting a sweat on now with all that walking,i think she needs to sit down before she falls down

its the familys weekly night out lol

the one in the red shirt?

OMG. ROFLMAO. You guys are too funny.

[Brainstorm]

I suppose the only thing worse than them standing around gawking, is Me watching them on that web cam !!! Nite all.

[lighthousedazy]

Is this the protestors or the vigil. They are all up in the drive way and right now (9:53 pm) the garage door is open. :confused:

[rosejustrose]

I suppose the only thing worse than them standing around gawking, is Me watching them on that web cam !!! Nite all.

Good night, sleep well:seeya:

[rosejustrose]

Is this the protestors or the vigil. They are all up in the drive way and right now (9:53 pm) the garage door is open. :confused:

Believe it or not, it's both. Apparently the protesters had the good sense to put down their signs and be respectful during the vigil. When the garage doors close, you'll know the vigil is over. JMO

[lorettalockhorn]

I don't have a link, but following the Tara Grinstead case, one of the expert cadaver dog trainers from Jesup, Ga., said the dogs could scent through concrete. She said the dogs had even alerted on some old Civil War graves. Just from memory.

Well, exactly. That's why I don't feel that LE has necessarily remiss if they didn't dig up the entire yard. Modern archeologists use GIS to search without digging and potentially destroying finds also.

[rosejustrose]

Well, exactly. That's why I don't feel that LE has necessarily remiss if they didn't dig up the entire yard. Modern archeologists use GIS to search without digging and potentially destroying finds also.

GIS, Geographic Information Systems, is a mapping software program. I think you mean GPR, Ground Penetrating Radar, which uses radar pulses to view the subsurface. The advances in this technology are phenomenal. The use of this technology does not destroy or disfigure the subsurface but does provide a "picture" of what is under the surface. JMHO.

[minga]

I think thats a re-run from Thursday night.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b53B_Hfoc2Q


Is it just me or does Nejame look like The Joker?

[lorettalockhorn]

GIS, Geographic Information Systems, is a mapping software program. I think you mean GPR, Ground Penetrating Radar, which uses radar pulses to view the subsurface. The advances in this technology are phenomenal. The use of this technology does not destroy or disfigure the subsurface but does provide a "picture" of what is under the surface. JMHO.

No, I meant GIS (ohmeters, essentially). It's what my son the shovel bum and the other graduate students use in archeological field school. It has many other practical uses also. But thanks for the suggestion.

[One2Snoop]

These are photo's of the search in the backyard....

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/photogalleries/071808cayleehomesearch/indexGallery.htm

[SaraSidle]

Do the bricks or the cement have to be literally removed/dug up? Wouldn't cadaver dogs hit anyway? Does LE use GIS technology?



Geraldo was going to be sued? The Anthonys? By the new suspect?

No the I bet part was saying IMO. I was thinking Fox jumped the gun on some rumor or something and that it that person's name had been mentioned on the show and he was innocent that may have made fox liable. I am guessing on most everything here Loretta. Nothing seems real most of the time anymore. I just hope LE has a lot of info they are not giving us IMO

[SaraSidle]

Is it just me or does Nejame look like The Joker?

I think he looks like he has too much makeup on IMO

[SaraSidle]

These are photo's of the search in the backyard....

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/photogalleries/071808cayleehomesearch/indexGallery.htm

thanks One2Snoop

[BentNotBroken]

thank you 4u2 and rose for the friendly welcome. I sure will hope I can contribute to the forum. I was a senior member here, but my log in wont work, but thats prolly cos I havent logged in for so long. I was Lucygal, and mainly did the laci peterson forum here.
OK, what I think is happening in this case, is a LE attempt to cover evidence. Now, we all know they have enough circumstantial evidence that has been announced publically, its prolly enuff to send her to trial with that evidence alone. Ie, the forensics concluding chloroform, concluding decomposition (and LOL, its not from the pizza). They cant pin her yet, but they would have enough CE to trial her. So, why havent they yet? Its the same as scott peterson, he didnt get arrested until the bodies of his wife and son turned up. Its the same here, nothing will happen to Casey, until a body is found.
I am an advocate for victim of crime, having been thru it myself personally, and seeing a judge let off the killers of my best friend's son's murder because they were in their "prime of their life" and he gave them six months jail. Australia needs tougher laws. Now, I do know a lot about decomposition, I am a mortuary worker. My job is to go to crime scenes/ places of death, and retrieve the bodies and return them to the funeral home. I have been to hangings, road accidents, natural deaths, and murder victims. I have an obsession with justice for the victim, and trust me, so much gets hushed up. Lucy

[BentNotBroken]

pyschics annoy me too. Its not that I dont believe in them, but it is all bull****, wheres the evidence? Wheres the body? Where is the crime scene? Yes, we all watch medium and ghost whisperer, and in Australia, pyschic investigations. So, where is "Alison" where are the phschics proving now? Lets get in Alison Dubaiu (how ever you spell it)? Lets get them in on this case. Make Alison find Caylee. Send a letter to Alison, and see if she finds Caylee.

[lorettalockhorn]

No the I bet part was saying IMO. I was thinking Fox jumped the gun on some rumor or something and that it that person's name had been mentioned on the show and he was innocent that may have made fox liable. I am guessing on most everything here Loretta. Nothing seems real most of the time anymore. I just hope LE has a lot of info they are not giving us IMO

ITA that this case seems surreal. I haven't seen Geraldo weigh in on any of this so far, but would have liked to see the episode that was pre-empted or kiboshed or whatever.

[Gatordog]

Hi Everybody:seeya:

I'm jumping ahead to the end of the thread and will go back and read the weekend's post later but I wanted to get this out there from WKMG news:

"A boater on Sunday discovered human remains near the Sharpes Ferry Bridge on the Ocklawaha River in Marion County.

The incident was reported at about 2:25 p.m. after the boater found partial remains on the water's edge, about 300 yards north of the bridge, Marion County sheriff's deputies said.

The identity and sex of the remains are unknown, and it's not known if the remains are that of a child or an adult,"

I heard this on the news this morning but nothing definitive. They said divers were going to to search. This is about 90 minutes north of Orlando and could very well be a dumping ground.

Some info on the Amscott - I went there Saturday but couldn't determine when they pick up the trash. The Amscott is open 24 hours a day which leads me to believe she didn't put anything in the dumpster. The Amscott is right next to the SAMS CLUB parking lot so there are many cameras facing in all directions and it wouldn't be a secretive place to hide something. If anything, there is a Sushi restaurant near by which has many large trees and a dumpster. This place is more hidden.

More economic charges are going to be filed against Casey - there are still three checks which LE hasn't prosecuted on yet.

Also - drove they the house on Saturday morning at 10:30 and there were no protestors or any disturbances. Why the family waits until the protestors are there to come out of the house and do their yardwork is beyond me. With one hand they pull the media towards them and with the other hand they push them away. :no:

[Gatordog]

I'm sorry, I forgot to ask - what is a considered a "troll"?

[Brainstorm]

Hi Everybody:seeya:

I'm jumping ahead to the end of the thread and will go back and read the weekend's post later but I wanted to get this out there from WKMG news:

"A boater on Sunday discovered human remains near the Sharpes Ferry Bridge on the Ocklawaha River in Marion County.

The incident was reported at about 2:25 p.m. after the boater found partial remains on the water's edge, about 300 yards north of the bridge, Marion County sheriff's deputies said.

The identity and sex of the remains are unknown, and it's not known if the remains are that of a child or an adult,"

I heard this on the news this morning but nothing definitive. They said divers were going to to search. This is about 90 minutes north of Orlando and could very well be a dumping ground.

Some info on the Amscott - I went there Saturday but couldn't determine when they pick up the trash. The Amscott is open 24 hours a day which leads me to believe she didn't put anything in the dumpster. The Amscott is right next to the SAMS CLUB parking lot so there are many cameras facing in all directions and it wouldn't be a secretive place to hide something. If anything, there is a Sushi restaurant near by which has many large trees and a dumpster. This place is more hidden.

More economic charges are going to be filed against Casey - there are still three checks which LE hasn't prosecuted on yet.

Also - drove they the house on Saturday morning at 10:30 and there were no protestors or any disturbances. Why the family waits until the protestors are there to come out of the house and do their yardwork is beyond me. With one hand they pull the media towards them and with the other hand they push them away. :no:
THANKS, Gatordog !!! Please keep us posted.
I hope and pray they find this child, then her MOTHER can be locked away, no more to party and play,lie,steal,etc,etc. .........BUT sit alone,with just herself, to think every day about what she's done.imoo

[Gatordog]

I think he looks like he has too much makeup on IMO

Believe it or not - he looks like that all the time.

The Homeowner's association has requested an injunction from a judge to prohibit the protestors from congregating in front of the Anthony's house and having to move to an empty lot located at the far end of the street. They can protest legally as long as they don't have 100 people or more, then they need a permit. If the judge grants the injunction, I am wondering if that would also cover the vigil attendees on Sunday night since that is also an intrusion on the neighbors. We're supposed to find out today if the judges okays the injunction.

[sosineville]

Hi,

I found this website when I became involved with a suspect in the Morgan Nick case who matches the suspect sketch and is surrounded by suspicious behavior and much more. There is all this circumstantial evidence that points to this suspect, but Morgan has never been found. I am just about positive that this man I know is the same man in the sketch of Morgan Nick's case. Should you be interested, please come and read her thread here and my posts to get an idea of how similar these two cases are in the fact that there is no body to prove a homicide. I am just a regular person who happened to meet this suspect by chance. I am so very frustrated that there is nothing that can be done about him because of having no body or any other certain evidence. It really makes me feel disheartened in the Caylee Anthony case because we may never find out where she is, just like Morgan Nick. And therefore, no matter how suspcious or how much circumstantial evidence there is, the guilty person goes free. It is such an injustice to these children. As I have posted in Morgan's thread today, THERE NEEDS TO BE A DIFFERENT CRITERIA FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT WHEN DEALING WITH A MISSING CHILD. It is safe to assume that toddler's this young cannot just decide to leave. Therefore, they are probably not missing! They have surely met up with fowl play from a predator of some sort!! If not dead, then they are surely being held against their will. I hate to see this case end up like Morgan's has: missing and unsolved for 13 years!!!! What a travesty! Isn't there anything that can be done in revising the perimeters of law enforcement when the case involves a child that young? We need to seriously look at the laws in these cases again. Something needs to be done because too many dangerous predators are on the streets. Sos

[One2Snoop]

I'm sorry, I forgot to ask - what is a considered a "troll"?

What is a troll?
http://www.flayme.com/troll/

[One2Snoop]

Hi Everybody:seeya:

I'm jumping ahead to the end of the thread and will go back and read the weekend's post later but I wanted to get this out there from WKMG news:

"A boater on Sunday discovered human remains near the Sharpes Ferry Bridge on the Ocklawaha River in Marion County.

The incident was reported at about 2:25 p.m. after the boater found partial remains on the water's edge, about 300 yards north of the bridge, Marion County sheriff's deputies said.

The identity and sex of the remains are unknown, and it's not known if the remains are that of a child or an adult,"

I heard this on the news this morning but nothing definitive. They said divers were going to to search. This is about 90 minutes north of Orlando and could very well be a dumping ground.

Some info on the Amscott - I went there Saturday but couldn't determine when they pick up the trash. The Amscott is open 24 hours a day which leads me to believe she didn't put anything in the dumpster. The Amscott is right next to the SAMS CLUB parking lot so there are many cameras facing in all directions and it wouldn't be a secretive place to hide something. If anything, there is a Sushi restaurant near by which has many large trees and a dumpster. This place is more hidden.

More economic charges are going to be filed against Casey - there are still three checks which LE hasn't prosecuted on yet.

Also - drove they the house on Saturday morning at 10:30 and there were no protestors or any disturbances. Why the family waits until the protestors are there to come out of the house and do their yardwork is beyond me. With one hand they pull the media towards them and with the other hand they push them away. :no:

Thanks for the updates Gator. :seeya: I just posted a news article stating Casey has turned herself in on the latest check charges. I wonder who will bail her out this time? :shrug:

[One2Snoop]

Believe it or not - he looks like that all the time.

The Homeowner's association has requested an injunction from a judge to prohibit the protestors from congregating in front of the Anthony's house and having to move to an empty lot located at the far end of the street. They can protest legally as long as they don't have 100 people or more, then they need a permit. If the judge grants the injunction, I am wondering if that would also cover the vigil attendees on Sunday night since that is also an intrusion on the neighbors. We're supposed to find out today if the judges okays the injunction.

Wesh is reporting no decision will be made today?

Meanwhile, no decision will come Monday in the homeowners’ association complaint for an injunction over the Casey Anthony protests, a court official said.

http://www.wesh.com/news/17472147/detail.html

[Gatordog]

What is a troll?
http://www.flayme.com/troll/

Thanks O2S. I know now why they've given them a nasty name - it's a nasty deed.

Gatordog

P.S. I'm Gatordog because my dog is named Gator and he's going to be 13 years old and he's been critically sick twice. I've slept on the floor with him when he couldn't walk, I would wake up in the middle of the night to give him medicine. I took vacation days to stay with him so it just makes me wonder how can anyone drug their child or dump their body? How can a mother be so callous as to not call 911 when her child is sick or missing?

[Notknowingall]

Yeah...she is back in jail.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,422861,00.html

[applesandorange]

Yeah...she is back in jail.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,422861,00.html


Hi everyone :seeya: So happy to see the b/i/t/c/h is back where she belongs. I wonder how long she will stay there.

[Notknowingall]

Hi everyone :seeya: So happy to see the b/i/t/c/h is back where she belongs. I wonder how long she will stay there.

At least through the night until her first "new" hearing tomorrow. I would guess that it would be the next day then that she would be out?

[dan_uk]

looks quiet near the anthonys house tonight because when i looked on the webcam there was 1 bloke all on this own with a banner

[One2Snoop]

looks quiet near the anthonys house tonight because when i looked on the webcam there was 1 bloke all on this own with a banner

It looks like he's being interviewed now.

I thought with the full moon out tonight we'd see a replay of all those monsters out there protesting again LOL.

[dan_uk]

I thought with the full moon out tonight we'd see a replay of all those monsters out there protesting again LOL.
still time yet

[One2Snoop]

Hi Everybody:seeya:

I'm jumping ahead to the end of the thread and will go back and read the weekend's post later but I wanted to get this out there from WKMG news:

"A boater on Sunday discovered human remains near the Sharpes Ferry Bridge on the Ocklawaha River in Marion County.

The incident was reported at about 2:25 p.m. after the boater found partial remains on the water's edge, about 300 yards north of the bridge, Marion County sheriff's deputies said.

The identity and sex of the remains are unknown, and it's not known if the remains are that of a child or an adult,"

I heard this on the news this morning but nothing definitive. They said divers were going to to search. This is about 90 minutes north of Orlando and could very well be a dumping ground.

Some info on the Amscott - I went there Saturday but couldn't determine when they pick up the trash. The Amscott is open 24 hours a day which leads me to believe she didn't put anything in the dumpster. The Amscott is right next to the SAMS CLUB parking lot so there are many cameras facing in all directions and it wouldn't be a secretive place to hide something. If anything, there is a Sushi restaurant near by which has many large trees and a dumpster. This place is more hidden.

More economic charges are going to be filed against Casey - there are still three checks which LE hasn't prosecuted on yet.

Also - drove they the house on Saturday morning at 10:30 and there were no protestors or any disturbances. Why the family waits until the protestors are there to come out of the house and do their yardwork is beyond me. With one hand they pull the media towards them and with the other hand they push them away. :no:

The remains found belong to a young adult...

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/state/orl-remains-found-091508,0,2905635.story

[One2Snoop]

Anyone watching NG?

Some new names thrown out there - not sure what they mean -

Laural Rose, William Walters and Zenida Gonzales somehow have a connection? and of course NG cut Padilla off before he could finish. :cuss:

Another name brought up was Mark Hopkins or Pockson? - a marine that Padilla thinks Casey may have told the truth to? Talked to Casey on the night of June 26th which was the night before the car was found at Amscot. Nahhhhhhh - I think he would've come forward by now if he knew anything.

[rosejustrose]

Anyone watching NG?

Some new names thrown out there - not sure what they mean -

Laural Rose, William Walters and Zenida Gonzales somehow have a connection? and of course NG cut Padilla off before he could finish. :cuss:

Another name brought up was Mark Hopkins or Pockson? - a marine that Padilla thinks Casey may have told the truth to? Talked to Casey on the night of June 26th which was the night before the car was found at Amscot. Nahhhhhhh - I think he would've come forward by now if he knew anything.

Hi O2S! Yeah, I watched NG and it ticked me off when she cut Padilla off. Apparently there's some connection between LR, WW and ZG inre the bogus application filled out at the Sawgrass. Apparently, they are go betweens or something like that between Lee and Casey. Who knows. Melich is flying to CA on Thursday to interview the Padilla's staff and to try to talk to MH, the marine that Casey spoke to at length on June 29. There's some talk she was planning on taking off to be with him. JMHO.

[SaraSidle]

thank you 4u2 and rose for the friendly welcome. I sure will hope I can contribute to the forum. I was a senior member here, but my log in wont work, but thats prolly cos I havent logged in for so long. I was Lucygal, and mainly did the laci peterson forum here.
OK, what I think is happening in this case, is a LE attempt to cover evidence. Now, we all know they have enough circumstantial evidence that has been announced publically, its prolly enuff to send her to trial with that evidence alone. Ie, the forensics concluding chloroform, concluding decomposition (and LOL, its not from the pizza). They cant pin her yet, but they would have enough CE to trial her. So, why havent they yet? Its the same as scott peterson, he didnt get arrested until the bodies of his wife and son turned up. Its the same here, nothing will happen to Casey, until a body is found.
I am an advocate for victim of crime, having been thru it myself personally, and seeing a judge let off the killers of my best friend's son's murder because they were in their "prime of their life" and he gave them six months jail. Australia needs tougher laws. Now, I do know a lot about decomposition, I am a mortuary worker. My job is to go to crime scenes/ places of death, and retrieve the bodies and return them to the funeral home. I have been to hangings, road accidents, natural deaths, and murder victims. I have an obsession with justice for the victim, and trust me, so much gets hushed up. Lucy

Lucy I am very sorry about your best friend's son. That has to be very frustrating. I also did your job when I was on an ambulance but we always went to a morgue. I believe LE and the Prosecutor are doing everthing they possibly can to prevent double jeopardy. There are things that do not add up and I know LE is holding on to some information.........IMO

[SaraSidle]

ITA that this case seems surreal. I haven't seen Geraldo weigh in on any of this so far, but would have liked to see the episode that was pre-empted or kiboshed or whatever.

You and me both Loretta. Unless it was just for an audience. Hard to trust some of these talk shows about crime............IMO

[SaraSidle]

Hi, I have been reading these threads for a while now, and want to thank you all for the updates. I was in USA when this first came to light. Back home now, and I have not heard anything about this case on Australian News, unlike the Maddy McCann case was all over the world. Can someone tell me why that psychic is under investigation please? I cant seem to download videos. I hope they find Caylee soon, Im worried without a body, lil miss dumbarse physco woman might get away with this.

this is exactly another problem we have BentNotBroken. If Caylee has been put outside somewhere hidden it is more than probably there will be no evidence of cause of death. Unless maybe she was wrapped in something tight to keep out oxygen and animals. I think it will be more helpful at this point is if someone knows something could come forward. Casey had a month over LE on this.......... IMO

[SaraSidle]

Thanks O2S. I know now why they've given them a nasty name - it's a nasty deed.

Gatordog

P.S. I'm Gatordog because my dog is named Gator and he's going to be 13 years old and he's been critically sick twice. I've slept on the floor with him when he couldn't walk, I would wake up in the middle of the night to give him medicine. I took vacation days to stay with him so it just makes me wonder how can anyone drug their child or dump their body? How can a mother be so callous as to not call 911 when her child is sick or missing?

yes trolls are nasty. I always put them on ignore. I am sorry about your dog. Have you thought of his picture as an avatar?


Anyways have you heard anything new on Dante or Zenaiga/Kiomarie?
And I think you should work weekends till this is over. LOL IMo

[One2Snoop]

yes trolls are nasty. I always put them on ignore. I am sorry about your dog. Have you thought of his picture as an avatar?


Anyways have you heard anything new on Dante or Zenaiga/Kiomarie?
And I think you should work weekends till this is over. LOL IMo

LOL I agree. It makes it kind of hard when Gator can only be here Mon-Fri, 8-5 and even that time is limited.

Thanks Gator for all the info and help you've given us. :beer:

[One2Snoop]

still time yet

Sorry, there was no monster mash tonight LOL.

[SaraSidle]

Can you all watch and listen to this twice and then tell me if it is strange at all or is it just me? it is called jailhouse visitor and it is near the bottom of videos.




http://www.local6.com/news/17189131/detail.html

[One2Snoop]

Can you all watch and listen to this twice and then tell me if it is strange at all or is it just me? it is called jailhouse visitor and it is near the bottom of videos.




http://www.local6.com/news/17189131/detail.html

Yes that was strange. Casey obviously didn't remember him and it sounded like Patrick wanted to insert himself and gain his 15 minutes of fame. Ugggghhh! :rolleyes:

[One2Snoop]

Yes that was strange. Casey obviously didn't remember him and it sounded like Patrick wanted to insert himself and gain his 15 minutes of fame. Ugggghhh! :rolleyes:

Adding to the above -

One other strange thing - wonder why she allowed him to visit if she didn't know who he was? :confused:

[applesandorange]

Adding to the above -

One other strange thing - wonder why she allowed him to visit if she didn't know who he was? :confused:


That was a waste of a visit. Casey didn't know who the guy was. IMO the only reason she accepted the visit was because it was a male asking to talk to her. I don't think she can say no to a male even in prison.

[One2Snoop]

That was a waste of a visit. Casey didn't know who the guy was. IMO the only reason she accepted the visit was because it was a male asking to talk to her. I don't think she can say no to a male even in prison.


Good point applesandoranges, very good point!

[One2Snoop]

Hi O2S! Yeah, I watched NG and it ticked me off when she cut Padilla off. Apparently there's some connection between LR, WW and ZG inre the bogus application filled out at the Sawgrass. Apparently, they are go betweens or something like that between Lee and Casey. Who knows. Melich is flying to CA on Thursday to interview the Padilla's staff and to try to talk to MH, the marine that Casey spoke to at length on June 29. There's some talk she was planning on taking off to be with him. JMHO.

I was waiting to respond until the transcript came up - rumor is Leonard is getting his ideas off another website (message board) WTF? :punch:

GRACE: Out to Leonard Padilla, bounty hunter from California who first helped Casey Anthony get out behind bars, then came off that bond, the sound we just played a few moments ago where police confronted her about pointing to an apartment and being able to say, well, she also lived there. It`s an old folks` home.

And my question is, even if there really is a Zenaida Gonzalez, which there`s not, that she left the baby with, if that were true, why would she tell police the wrong address for the woman?

LEONARD PADILLA, BOUNTY HUNTER, HELPED PUT CASEY ANTHONY BACK IN JAIL: Well, the -- reason she took them and told them about Apartment 210 is because she has friends that live at 218. There`s also another thing that`s very interesting. That just came up here in the last week.

There is a William Waters that works at a restaurant down the street from where her boyfriend Anthony lives, and somebody linked Zenaida Gonzalez, who was the one that filled out the application at the Saw Grass Apartments.

GRACE: Saw Gras Apartments.

PADILLA: They linked her through a Laura Rose, trying to make it look like she had communication with Lee and Casey through William Waters. I don`t know exactly what that means, and I don`t know if law enforcement has checked that out. But, obviously, it was a ruse to see...

GRACE: Leonard, you have been in the home. I believe that Cindy and George are getting these tips. Are they?

PADILLA: No. No.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0809/15/ng.01.html

[4u2]

:cool: Well this is certainly interesting - from David Lohr's latest update...

"I am out of the loop right now as far as what other outlets are covering; however sources here tell me that detectives removed potential evidence from George Anthony's vehicle early this morning. The evidence was allegedly removed from the wheel well, although some sources are saying the spare tire area. I'll try to provide more information on that later."

http://blogs.discovery.com/criminal_report/2008/09/caylee-anthon-3.html

Good Morning All, isn't this about the gun? If not sorry, I didn't have a full cup of coffee yet :confused:

[dan_uk]

just had alook on webcam 1 and there was people sitting on the floor of a kids clothles shop

[4u2]

I was waiting to respond until the transcript came up - rumor is Leonard is getting his ideas off another website (message board) WTF? :punch:

GRACE: Out to Leonard Padilla, bounty hunter from California who first helped Casey Anthony get out behind bars, then came off that bond, the sound we just played a few moments ago where police confronted her about pointing to an apartment and being able to say, well, she also lived there. It`s an old folks` home.

And my question is, even if there really is a Zenaida Gonzalez, which there`s not, that she left the baby with, if that were true, why would she tell police the wrong address for the woman?

LEONARD PADILLA, BOUNTY HUNTER, HELPED PUT CASEY ANTHONY BACK IN JAIL: Well, the -- reason she took them and told them about Apartment 210 is because she has friends that live at 218. There`s also another thing that`s very interesting. That just came up here in the last week.

There is a William Waters that works at a restaurant down the street from where her boyfriend Anthony lives, and somebody linked Zenaida Gonzalez, who was the one that filled out the application at the Saw Grass Apartments.

GRACE: Saw Gras Apartments.

PADILLA: They linked her through a Laura Rose, trying to make it look like she had communication with Lee and Casey through William Waters. I don`t know exactly what that means, and I don`t know if law enforcement has checked that out. But, obviously, it was a ruse to see...

GRACE: Leonard, you have been in the home. I believe that Cindy and George are getting these tips. Are they?

PADILLA: No. No.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0809/15/ng.01.html

OK I hope I don't catch hell for this, but I think Padilla knows a lot of things. He was right about the movie deal when no one else did and people thought he was full of bull - off hand I know he said afew other things that were correct. I know he is weird, but he knows quite a bit. He also says that Casey told Lee and Lee told Cindy and George - which I also believe. I just will not believe that Cindy and George are in denial, just won't :cool: The only reason they are playing these roles, is to keep themselves from being in trouble with the law. I forgot what the correct word is for it.

[4u2]

just had alook on webcam 1 and there was people sitting on the floor of a kids clothles shop

Where do you find the webcam danuk?

[dan_uk]

webcam 1 http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam.html

webcam 2 http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam2.html

[Gatordog]

First, thank you for asking about Gator, he is doing great.

Now, to the latest on the local news. The bond should be $1250 but the news reporter said that perhaps the judge will deviate from the guidelines. There was no activity at the house last night - IMO this should tell the Anthonys to leave her in jail. It's possible she may be released at night instead of during the day.

The family of the young boy who hurt his arm is now under investigation by the Department of Children and Families. The news channel had filmed the license plate and turned the film over to LE.

You may be aware of a 12 year old girl who had formed a close bond with Cindy in the early weeks of the case. The girl had formed a prayer vigil on her own for Caylee. Well, when the news came out about the DNA and that Caylee was dead, the little girl had a collapse and had to be put in the hospital for stress. When Casey got out of jail she started emailing the girl and Cindy kept in contact even though the child was not strong enough to handle the situation. Well the child's grandmother requested Cindy not contact her anymore and Cindy refused and kept emailing the girl. The grandmother tried to get a restraining order to keep them away from the girl but the judge refused it. I hope this isn't another young life ruined by Casey and Cindy. :(

[4u2]

webcam 1 http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam.html

webcam 2 http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam2.html


Thank you Dan-uk:seeya:

Gator, what a story. I cannot believe that Cindy kept emailing that little girl. What is with this family :cuss: Don't they have an feelings for anyone? Leave that poor little girl alone!

[soccermom]

Thank you everyone for the updates and links
I had to do a double yesterday at work and missed watching NG and CNN for any news

[joekuhl79]

OK I hope I don't catch hell for this, but I think Padilla knows a lot of things. He was right about the movie deal when no one else did and people thought he was full of bull - off hand I know he said afew other things that were correct. I know he is weird, but he knows quite a bit. He also says that Casey told Lee and Lee told Cindy and George - which I also believe. I just will not believe that Cindy and George are in denial, just won't :cool: The only reason they are playing these roles, is to keep themselves from being in trouble with the law. I forgot what the correct word is for it.

I agree with you...I think Padilla is a smart guy with good intentions. People just took a negative view of him because he got Casey out - an unpopular move, but a move he thought would have positive results.

[joekuhl79]

Reading the police interview transcripts and listening to them, a couple of things occued to me:

-It seems SO obvious that she is lying (duh!)

-Most say that a liar speaks with bits of the truth. If this is the case, read into what Casey says (I haven't heard anyone bring this up - and note that my quotes may not be exact):

-"I don't know where she is" - Well, maybe she doesn't, if she put her in a dumpster, or wherever. Maybe she knows where the physical body is, but (assuming she's religious) doesn't know where 'Caylee' is.

-"I haven't seen my daughter since June 9" - Well...the 15th, but duh...

-"I left her with someone I thought I trusted" - She's talking about herself.

-"It terrifies me that I may never see her again" - That Caylee is in heaven, and Casey may go to hell?

-"She's with someone else" - God?

Any others?

[sosineville]

I'm sure you all watch Nancy Grace as she has been great in covering this story. I think it's great she covers stories like these that are so important even when there are other things going on. Anyway, I noticed that Mr. Padilla seemed to say a few names and mentioned some sort of tip. It almost seemed to me like he has said something he had not intended to say. And it was almost like they knew it and quickly switched over to Casey's interrogation tapes. Maybe I am crazy, but it almost seemed like he "accidently let info out of the bag". I'm sure the police and others involved in this investigation are not going to say everything they know. He had this look on his face and so did Nancy when he spoke of the alleged babysitter and a few other names. Did anyone else notice that, or is it just my imagination?

[joekuhl79]

I'm sure you all watch Nancy Grace as she has been great in covering this story. I think it's great she covers stories like these that are so important even when there are other things going on. Anyway, I noticed that Mr. Padilla seemed to say a few names and mentioned some sort of tip. It almost seemed to me like he has said something he had not intended to say. And it was almost like they knew it and quickly switched over to Casey's interrogation tapes. Maybe I am crazy, but it almost seemed like he "accidently let info out of the bag". I'm sure the police and others involved in this investigation are not going to say everything they know. He had this look on his face and so did Nancy when he spoke of the alleged babysitter and a few other names. Did anyone else notice that, or is it just my imagination?

Yeah, I noticed it, but felt that Nancy cut him off as that's not where SHE wanted to go. She did that a bit before that when there were a couple defense attorneys mentioning that Casey was not mirandized before the taped 'interrogations'...though I don't think she was, I also don't think she needed to be. LE are recorded saying that the door is open, you're free to leave whenever you want...

I wonder if the media is bending to LE where/when needed? The Geraldo thing, which I don't entirely understand, and NG cutting off Padilla...you know? "Let's not go there because LE doesn't want this out"?

[sosineville]

Yes, I think that Nancy knew that information was not to go public. Did you happen to catch exactly what Padilla was referring to? I am interested in that because I believe there is more going on the case I am involved in as well. I just think that there are things the police know but won't tell me about. I understand why they can't, but it is so hard to sit back and know you are helpless to do anything. Everything is secret, secret, secret!!

[deacon]

rose this is a wonderful post IMO. You may be right on. Part of me thinks someone else is involved probably cause I cannot face a mother did it.


I am afraid you may have to face that one. One thing, though, there is a really big difference between being able to give birth and being a mother. Casey may have been able to give birth but I really wouldn't call her a mother.

[joekuhl79]

Yes, I think that Nancy knew that information was not to go public. Did you happen to catch exactly what Padilla was referring to? I am interested in that because I believe there is more going on the case I am involved in as well. I just think that there are things the police know but won't tell me about. I understand why they can't, but it is so hard to sit back and know you are helpless to do anything. Everything is secret, secret, secret!!

That was the first I heard of that...

[One2Snoop]

Thank you Dan-uk:seeya:

Gator, what a story. I cannot believe that Cindy kept emailing that little girl. What is with this family :cuss: Don't they have an feelings for anyone? Leave that poor little girl alone!


She can stop it from her end if she really wanted to by changing her email address and phone number or use caller ID and not answer the phone when she calls. I wonder if they thought of that. :shrug:

[One2Snoop]

Yes, I think that Nancy knew that information was not to go public. Did you happen to catch exactly what Padilla was referring to? I am interested in that because I believe there is more going on the case I am involved in as well. I just think that there are things the police know but won't tell me about. I understand why they can't, but it is so hard to sit back and know you are helpless to do anything. Everything is secret, secret, secret!!

Is this the part you're referring to? We have links for all the news updates and Nancy Grace transcripts in the "New Updates Thread".

GRACE: Out to Leonard Padilla, bounty hunter from California who first helped Casey Anthony get out behind bars, then came off that bond, the sound we just played a few moments ago where police confronted her about pointing to an apartment and being able to say, well, she also lived there. It`s an old folks` home.

And my question is, even if there really is a Zenaida Gonzalez, which there`s not, that she left the baby with, if that were true, why would she tell police the wrong address for the woman?

LEONARD PADILLA, BOUNTY HUNTER, HELPED PUT CASEY ANTHONY BACK IN JAIL: Well, the -- reason she took them and told them about Apartment 210 is because she has friends that live at 218. There`s also another thing that`s very interesting. That just came up here in the last week.

There is a William Waters that works at a restaurant down the street from where her boyfriend Anthony lives, and somebody linked Zenaida Gonzalez, who was the one that filled out the application at the Saw Grass Apartments.

GRACE: Saw Gras Apartments.

PADILLA: They linked her through a Laura Rose, trying to make it look like she had communication with Lee and Casey through William Waters. I don`t know exactly what that means, and I don`t know if law enforcement has checked that out. But, obviously, it was a ruse to see...

GRACE: Leonard, you have been in the home. I believe that Cindy and George are getting these tips. Are they?

PADILLA: No. No.

[applesandorange]

She can stop it from her end if she really wanted to by changing her email address and phone number or use caller ID and not answer the phone when she calls. I wonder if they thought of that. :shrug:


Yes Cindy being the adult is more than capable of stopping the interraction with a child. She could even politely tell her that she appreciates her support but the relationship needs to end. The grandmother of the girl says Cindy is coming in between her and the girl by writing a text that states "I love you. Give your mom time." This is confirming that Cindy knows that the grandmother believes Caylee is dead. Yet she is still talking to this child and giving her false hope that Caylee is alive. She is causing hostility between the grandmother and the child. Cindy should be adult enough to know her limits. If the grandmother is asking for Cindy to stop talking to her child, then Cindy needs to stop. Hopefully now that Cindy knows the woman tried for a restraining order she will stop. If infact she is like Casey though she won't stop and will instead keep talking to her as a haha you can't stop me type of thing. Oi, this whole family has problems.

[applesandorange]

I am afraid you may have to face that one. One thing, though, there is a really big difference between being able to give birth and being a mother. Casey may have been able to give birth but I really wouldn't call her a mother.


Deacon, sadly you are right. There is a BIG difference between giving birth and being a mother. It's so sad that there are so many children out there that never get to know what a mother really is.

[One2Snoop]

Casey was released from jail. :mad:

[applesandorange]

I'm sure you all watch Nancy Grace as she has been great in covering this story. I think it's great she covers stories like these that are so important even when there are other things going on. Anyway, I noticed that Mr. Padilla seemed to say a few names and mentioned some sort of tip. It almost seemed to me like he has said something he had not intended to say. And it was almost like they knew it and quickly switched over to Casey's interrogation tapes. Maybe I am crazy, but it almost seemed like he "accidently let info out of the bag". I'm sure the police and others involved in this investigation are not going to say everything they know. He had this look on his face and so did Nancy when he spoke of the alleged babysitter and a few other names. Did anyone else notice that, or is it just my imagination?


I think Padilla knows much more than even he lets on to. What he said last night was confusing IMO. I wish NG would have let him finish and explain it. I'm not sure that NG knows anymore than we do. I think she cuts people off too quickly a lot of times. I think if it's not something she understands or the way she wants the show to go she cuts them off. I do wish she'd give more people time to explain themselves. JMO

[applesandorange]

Casey was released from jail. :mad:

Already?!:flamemad:

[One2Snoop]

Already?!:flamemad:

Yup - I just posted the updates. Grrrrrrr :flamemad:

[applesandorange]

Yup - I just posted the updates. Grrrrrrr :flamemad:


Yeah I just went and read the updates. I also seen an update from a blog that people say they have spotted Caylee. I wonder if these were the people GA was referring to when he said they were watching someone. I do hope we are all wrong and Caylee is still alive and someone has her but I truly doubt it with all of the evidence.

[One2Snoop]

Casey about to bond out
11:15 a.m. Casey Anthony's attorney Jose Baez spoke with the media outside the jail after his client's first appearance. He blasted the sheriff's office for stringing out all the check fraud charges over several weeks. He said investigators arrest her on economic crimes when news about the case quiets down.

"We all know they knew of these charges," he said. "And I think we are seeing the games that are being played. The news for you guys is I'm not intimidated - not in any way, shape or form."

He criticized the way law enforcement officials have leaked information, such as air samples that show a decomposing body was in Anthony's car trunk along with traces of chloroform. He has not had a chance to examine these findings.

"You just can't believe every leak you hear," he said. "It's not evidence until it comes in court."

Baez said he has prepared his client and she will not give in to the "intimidating tactics."

"Unless they are going to take her out back and beat her behind my back, we are not going to get intimidated," he said.

Maybe thats exactly what they need to do - http://img2.mysmiley.net/imgs/smile/fighting/fighting0058.gif (http://www.mysmiley.net/free-war-smileys.php)

[One2Snoop]

Tonight At 11: Zenaida Gonzalez Talks To WESH
Woman Accused of Taking Caylee Anthony Explains How Life Has Changed

POSTED: 10:58 am EDT September 16, 2008
UPDATED: 12:05 pm EDT September 16, 2008

http://www.wesh.com/news/17485195/detail.html

[joekuhl79]

Casey about to bond out
11:15 a.m. Casey Anthony's attorney Jose Baez spoke with the media outside the jail after his client's first appearance. He blasted the sheriff's office for stringing out all the check fraud charges over several weeks. He said investigators arrest her on economic crimes when news about the case quiets down.

"We all know they knew of these charges," he said. "And I think we are seeing the games that are being played. The news for you guys is I'm not intimidated - not in any way, shape or form."

He criticized the way law enforcement officials have leaked information, such as air samples that show a decomposing body was in Anthony's car trunk along with traces of chloroform. He has not had a chance to examine these findings.

"You just can't believe every leak you hear," he said. "It's not evidence until it comes in court."

Baez said he has prepared his client and she will not give in to the "intimidating tactics."

"Unless they are going to take her out back and beat her behind my back, we are not going to get intimidated," he said.

Maybe thats exactly what they need to do - http://img2.mysmiley.net/imgs/smile/fighting/fighting0058.gif (http://www.mysmiley.net/free-war-smileys.php)

-"Unless they are going to take her out back and beat her behind my back, we are not going to get intimidated," he said.

I'd like to hear the audio on this...maybe Baez is sick of this and knows he (by way of his client) is up sht creek! It's an unconscious request to LE!!

[applesandorange]

LoL Joe!! You may be right

[minga]

Yes Cindy being the adult is more than capable of stopping the interraction with a child. She could even politely tell her that she appreciates her support but the relationship needs to end. The grandmother of the girl says Cindy is coming in between her and the girl by writing a text that states "I love you. Give your mom time." This is confirming that Cindy knows that the grandmother believes Caylee is dead. Yet she is still talking to this child and giving her false hope that Caylee is alive. She is causing hostility between the grandmother and the child. Cindy should be adult enough to know her limits. If the grandmother is asking for Cindy to stop talking to her child, then Cindy needs to stop. Hopefully now that Cindy knows the woman tried for a restraining order she will stop. If infact she is like Casey though she won't stop and will instead keep talking to her as a haha you can't stop me type of thing. Oi, this whole family has problems.


If I were the grandmother I would either find another judge, see if the IP provider could block her or (what I would do) respond to Cindy from that email address never letting her know it wasn't the child. Cindy could get excited because I'm sure by now she needs an outside outlet and see if she incriminates herself or Casey. All the while forwarding all emails to LE for clues. JMO They need all the help they can get to take build a case and Cindy is an idiot, she might leak things.

[applesandorange]

If I were the grandmother I would either find another judge, see if the IP provider could block her or (what I would do) respond to Cindy from that email address never letting her know it wasn't the child. Cindy could get excited because I'm sure by now she needs an outside outlet and see if she incriminates herself or Casey. All the while forwarding all emails to LE for clues. JMO They need all the help they can get to take build a case and Cindy is an idiot, she might leak things.


I hadn't even thought of that. That's a great idea. I was thinking what I would do is take the cell phone from the girl and forbid her to use the computer until this is over. Your idea is much better.

[Gatordog]

She can stop it from her end if she really wanted to by changing her email address and phone number or use caller ID and not answer the phone when she calls. I wonder if they thought of that. :shrug:

She probably has tried to change the email address but possibly the girl herself might be contacting Cindy to let her know the new address. You know how kids can be, they don't believe someone else knows what is best. Once the grandmother asked Cindy to stop the communication with the girl, she should have honored the request. The girl has formed a very strong attachment to Cindy which is not healthy, since it has already put her in the hospital with a breakdown. She doesn't seem to have a mother and her grandmother is the guardian so perhaps a younger woman, like Cindy, has replaced her mother in her mind. The girls has been on TV quite a few times and appears to be a very loving and caring girl.

[Gatordog]

Update - Judge refused to grant the injunction to the homeowner's association.

Also - LE from Orlando is now traveling outside of Florida to check leads. Another waste of our tax dollars but I guess in order to stop the parents and now the attorney from saying they are doing nothing about leads, it has to be done.

JMO - thought about the the possibility of the body being put in a trash bag and I don't think this happened. If there is the evidence of hair and the bodily fluid stain, this would have been contained in the bag and not in the trunk of the car. The plastic bag would have protected the body from rapid decomposition and I think she wanted it to be gone ASAP. Also I think she is spending so much time at the attorney's office because he is coaching her for her questioning by the D.A. He is probably trying to teach her how to have some sort of emotion and maybe a tear or two. Those tears would turn into ice cubes with her cold demeanor. What a beast she is. Maybe that's an insult to animals. After all most animals care for their young.

[One2Snoop]

Update - Judge refused to grant the injunction to the homeowner's association.

I bet once word gets out they'll be out there protesting by the dozens tonight.

[joekuhl79]

Also I think she is spending so much time at the attorney's office because he is coaching her for her questioning by the D.A. He is probably trying to teach her how to have some sort of emotion and maybe a tear or two.

THAT'S why she spends so much time at Baez'! He's hired a method acting coach to tutor Casey, but it's not going well! They're setting up this defense fund not to pay Baez (he's a cut-rate attorney) it's to pay the acting coach!
"Okay Casey, your motivation is this: Think of how you'd feel if you were locked up in prison for the rest of your life...never able to go club-hopping...no stripper poles...never touching a man again - nevermind four in one week! That would make you want to CRY, right? You wanna cry? Cry! CRY! CRY!!!"
"Baez...this isn't working...she couldn't act to save her life!"

[One2Snoop]

She probably has tried to change the email address but possibly the girl herself might be contacting Cindy to let her know the new address. You know how kids can be, they don't believe someone else knows what is best. Once the grandmother asked Cindy to stop the communication with the girl, she should have honored the request. The girl has formed a very strong attachment to Cindy which is not healthy, since it has already put her in the hospital with a breakdown. She doesn't seem to have a mother and her grandmother is the guardian so perhaps a younger woman, like Cindy, has replaced her mother in her mind. The girls has been on TV quite a few times and appears to be a very loving and caring girl.

Thats true - I hadn't thought of that. I think grandma needs to get her into counseling, JMO.

[One2Snoop]

THAT'S why she spends so much time at Baez'! He's hired a method acting coach to tutor Casey, but it's not going well! They're setting up this defense fund not to pay Baez (he's a cut-rate attorney) it's to pay the acting coach!
"Okay Casey, your motivation is this: Think of how you'd feel if you were locked up in prison for the rest of your life...never able to go club-hopping...no stripper poles...never touching a man again - nevermind four in one week! That would make you want to CRY, right? You wanna cry? Cry! CRY! CRY!!!"
"Baez...this isn't working...she couldn't act to save her life!"

LOL, I think you've got that down pat! Maybe you should intervene and be the coach? :D

[One2Snoop]

If I were the grandmother I would either find another judge, see if the IP provider could block her or (what I would do) respond to Cindy from that email address never letting her know it wasn't the child. Cindy could get excited because I'm sure by now she needs an outside outlet and see if she incriminates herself or Casey. All the while forwarding all emails to LE for clues. JMO They need all the help they can get to take build a case and Cindy is an idiot, she might leak things.

Another good idea/thought. :cool:

[joekuhl79]

LOL, I think you've got that down pat! Maybe you should intervene and be the coach? :D

They couldn't pay me enough - she disgusts me.

[minga]

Another good idea/thought. :cool:

I wish we had an edit feature for longer than a few minutes. That should teach me to post and run without proofreading. I don't know what the word take is doing in that post. :o:o

[One2Snoop]

Is this the part you're referring to? We have links for all the news updates and Nancy Grace transcripts in the "New Updates Thread".

GRACE: Out to Leonard Padilla, bounty hunter from California who first helped Casey Anthony get out behind bars, then came off that bond, the sound we just played a few moments ago where police confronted her about pointing to an apartment and being able to say, well, she also lived there. It`s an old folks` home.

And my question is, even if there really is a Zenaida Gonzalez, which there`s not, that she left the baby with, if that were true, why would she tell police the wrong address for the woman?

LEONARD PADILLA, BOUNTY HUNTER, HELPED PUT CASEY ANTHONY BACK IN JAIL: Well, the -- reason she took them and told them about Apartment 210 is because she has friends that live at 218. There`s also another thing that`s very interesting. That just came up here in the last week.

There is a William Waters that works at a restaurant down the street from where her boyfriend Anthony lives, and somebody linked Zenaida Gonzalez, who was the one that filled out the application at the Saw Grass Apartments.

GRACE: Saw Gras Apartments.

PADILLA: They linked her through a Laura Rose, trying to make it look like she had communication with Lee and Casey through William Waters. I don`t know exactly what that means, and I don`t know if law enforcement has checked that out. But, obviously, it was a ruse to see...
GRACE: Leonard, you have been in the home. I believe that Cindy and George are getting these tips. Are they?

PADILLA: No. No.

Appears to be something to this after all - will post more in a bit.

[Woostock]

This case is so disgusting. The sociopath is out again and will be at the atty's office from 10 to 4. I haven't heard about any searches lately but I have just about given up on the body being found. This case gets right into your heart. That poor sweet child and a sociopathic mother and morons for grandparents.
And to think that piece of slime was able to keep the disappearance of her daughter for a month or more. I guess there is a part of me that finds that hard to believe. There are things in this case that just don't compute----Casey had no job, where did her parents think she was going every day. Wouldn't they have a phone number for the "nanny" incase of an emergency...it's all very fishy.Looks as if her girlfriend finally saw the light after Casey used her blank checks after she borrowed the car....Some friend Casey turned out to be.

[4u2]

She probably has tried to change the email address but possibly the girl herself might be contacting Cindy to let her know the new address. You know how kids can be, they don't believe someone else knows what is best. Once the grandmother asked Cindy to stop the communication with the girl, she should have honored the request. The girl has formed a very strong attachment to Cindy which is not healthy, since it has already put her in the hospital with a breakdown. She doesn't seem to have a mother and her grandmother is the guardian so perhaps a younger woman, like Cindy, has replaced her mother in her mind. The girls has been on TV quite a few times and appears to be a very loving and caring girl.

Can you tell me how old this girl is? Is she a neighbor of the Anthony's or knew Caylee? :confused:

[SaraSidle]

Good point applesandoranges, very good point!

thanks applesandorange and One2Snoop for listening. there are some strange things about it. I can see 15 minutes of fame but he kept repeating "if you need to talk or anything". Just wierd but I have to think that LE is looking into all this kind of stuff. IMO

[One2Snoop]

Can you tell me how old this girl is? Is she a neighbor of the Anthony's or knew Caylee? :confused:

She's 12 and doesn't even live in the state of Texas. I believe the little girl contacted Cindy to begin with about starting a prayer vigil for Caylee.

[minga]

This case is so disgusting. The sociopath is out again and will be at the atty's office from 10 to 4. I haven't heard about any searches lately but I have just about given up on the body being found. This case gets right into your heart. That poor sweet child and a sociopathic mother and morons for grandparents.
And to think that piece of slime was able to keep the disappearance of her daughter for a month or more. I guess there is a part of me that finds that hard to believe. There are things in this case that just don't compute----Casey had no job, where did her parents think she was going every day. Wouldn't they have a phone number for the "nanny" incase of an emergency...it's all very fishy.Looks as if her girlfriend finally saw the light after Casey used her blank checks after she borrowed the car....Some friend Casey turned out to be.


I have been wondering for awhile now how Casey was smart enough not only to get rid of a body but to get rid of a body and get away with it. I'd like to know how she is smart enough to get away with what few do. I don't think she's that smart. Someone would have to provide that kind of info for her to follow. It takes someone knowledgeable to know how to dispose of a body, keep it hidden for a month so evidence would deteriorate to a point nothing could be proven except a death. Of course this all hinges upon a body being recovered.

Casey Anthony doesn't know that much on her own. IMO

[SaraSidle]

I was waiting to respond until the transcript came up - rumor is Leonard is getting his ideas off another website (message board) WTF? :punch:

GRACE: Out to Leonard Padilla, bounty hunter from California who first helped Casey Anthony get out behind bars, then came off that bond, the sound we just played a few moments ago where police confronted her about pointing to an apartment and being able to say, well, she also lived there. It`s an old folks` home.

And my question is, even if there really is a Zenaida Gonzalez, which there`s not, that she left the baby with, if that were true, why would she tell police the wrong address for the woman?

LEONARD PADILLA, BOUNTY HUNTER, HELPED PUT CASEY ANTHONY BACK IN JAIL: Well, the -- reason she took them and told them about Apartment 210 is because she has friends that live at 218. There`s also another thing that`s very interesting. That just came up here in the last week.

There is a William Waters that works at a restaurant down the street from where her boyfriend Anthony lives, and somebody linked Zenaida Gonzalez, who was the one that filled out the application at the Saw Grass Apartments.

GRACE: Saw Gras Apartments.

PADILLA: They linked her through a Laura Rose, trying to make it look like she had communication with Lee and Casey through William Waters. I don`t know exactly what that means, and I don`t know if law enforcement has checked that out. But, obviously, it was a ruse to see...

GRACE: Leonard, you have been in the home. I believe that Cindy and George are getting these tips. Are they?

PADILLA: No. No.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0809/15/ng.01.html

dang tho It almost seems like she cut him off on purpose........IMO

[lorettalockhorn]

I'm sure you all watch Nancy Grace as she has been great in covering this story. I think it's great she covers stories like these that are so important even when there are other things going on. Anyway, I noticed that Mr. Padilla seemed to say a few names and mentioned some sort of tip. It almost seemed to me like he has said something he had not intended to say. And it was almost like they knew it and quickly switched over to Casey's interrogation tapes. Maybe I am crazy, but it almost seemed like he "accidently let info out of the bag". I'm sure the police and others involved in this investigation are not going to say everything they know. He had this look on his face and so did Nancy when he spoke of the alleged babysitter and a few other names. Did anyone else notice that, or is it just my imagination?

Maybe I'm jaded, but I don't think any of these folks do anything accidentally. Accidentally on purpose maybe. ;)

Missed this on NG; thanks to everyone for keeping us informed!

[One2Snoop]

She's 12 and doesn't even live in the state of Texas. I believe the little girl contacted Cindy to begin with about starting a prayer vigil for Caylee.

Sorry - I meant Florida. :punch:

[One2Snoop]

Sorry - I meant Florida. :punch:

LOL well I'm wrong again :o - here's the news story on the 12 year old...

http://www.local6.com/news/17337744/detail.html

[SaraSidle]

I'm sure you all watch Nancy Grace as she has been great in covering this story. I think it's great she covers stories like these that are so important even when there are other things going on. Anyway, I noticed that Mr. Padilla seemed to say a few names and mentioned some sort of tip. It almost seemed to me like he has said something he had not intended to say. And it was almost like they knew it and quickly switched over to Casey's interrogation tapes. Maybe I am crazy, but it almost seemed like he "accidently let info out of the bag". I'm sure the police and others involved in this investigation are not going to say everything they know. He had this look on his face and so did Nancy when he spoke of the alleged babysitter and a few other names. Did anyone else notice that, or is it just my imagination?

I totally agree sosineville. imo

[SaraSidle]

I wish we had an edit feature for longer than a few minutes. That should teach me to post and run without proofreading. I don't know what the word take is doing in that post. :o:o

I totally agree Minga. I do things like that a lot usually cause I am watching tv or listening to my DH...............

[SaraSidle]

LOL well I'm wrong again :o - here's the news story on the 12 year old...

http://www.local6.com/news/17337744/detail.html

Maybe you are catching what Minga and I have!!!!!!!

[soccermom]

Anyone else watching it right now?

She is just as frustrated as us

Updates:
Backpack---was discovered but didnt match the description to Caylee---Caylee had monkeys on hers.

And new interrogation recordings......