Caylee Anthony Case Discussion Only

[lorettalockhorn]

Oooch!:eek: Ouch!:eek: Ewww!:eek: I thought perhaps he was just an ordinary jerk! But you make some very good points. :o

He's NG's donkey is mainly what I see. How does he legally get away with making statements no one in LE has made. That's what I don't get. He names dates, tells when Caylee was killed and what about the last person who saw Caylee alive.. some guy at the motel? What motel? WTH?
He is adamant that George did NOT see Caylee on June 16th.

Well, I've been just as adamant about the 16th, so I can't very well fault him, can I?

What about him going on and on about Lee being Caylee's father? Just disgusting he is. If I thought that or even knew that, I would pass it on to TPTB, but I wouldn't be announcing it night after night and setting myself up for a libel suit in case I was wrong. Honestly, I wish Lee would sue Leonard for all his toothpicks and Bowie knives or Jimmy Lyle knives (or whatever those are).

[deputydi]

<snip>So funny that Baez considers that there are powers out to get Casey. What? LE should just ignore her crimes against The State? And don't you just have to wonder WHY Cindy didn't whip out that book with all those Zanny phone numbers and addresses so that the Po Po could track her down and retrieve Caylee before the 55 (or fifty) days were up?

LE and the prosecution have done a great job of piecing together the puzzle and gathering forensic and circumstantial evidence here despite the fact that Casey did her damnedest to pretend that Caylee didn't exist and despite the fact that G&C have turned their backs on Cindy's third child.
I'd like to know just who Baez thinks is picking on poor, pitiful Casey. After all her lies have been exposed and the whole world knows what an amoral tramp she is and we all know most of what LE knows regarding the physical and forensic evidence -- he really believes we should just cast that aside and believe the saintly words she is spouting now.

IMO Cindy's depo just added another nail to Casey's coffin when she claimed to have Zanny's address and phone number all along. She was frantic over the disappearance of her beloved granddaughter but thought trying to locate her through these numbers was none of her business. WTF??? Is there ANYONE on the face of this earth that believes that? Can't anyone in that freakin' family tell the truth???

And, YES, YES, YES to whoever posted that Cindy's eyes looked positively maniacal in the video of her depo. I believe the woman is truly walking on the edge.

[lorettalockhorn]

Wow-u are a better person than I-I woulda caved prolly. So now u can make up for the lost time LOL Enjoy.

One year I gave up chocolate. Talk about your frequent crying jags! :eek:

[lorettalockhorn]

Absolutely not. Death qualified jurors are MORE likely to convict. My personal opinion, however -- while I do believe she will be convicted, she won't be sentenced to death. LWOP is my prediction.

Good to know DD. I'll settle for LWOP although I love the thought of her frying; the needle is too easy since all she would do is go to sleep.

[Native Alien]

http://www.wftv.com/news/19209119/detail.html#-

New Lawyer Joins Casey Defense Team

Posted: 12:51 pm EDT April 17, 2009Updated: 1:16 pm EDT April 17, 2009
ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. -- A new lawyer is joining Casey's defense team. Judge Stan Strickland gave Todd Macaluso the green-light Friday to join Casey's team.

[Amy]

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OK...Who Wins?

Number 4--wish I had that much hair, lol. Is that ol' Spector?

[Amy]

Does anybody worry that having the death penalty might make a jury less likely to convict? It certainly will add to the length of the trial, and the cost to taxpayers, due to the extra layers of voir dire, and then automatic appeals.

I am so nervous that Casey will get away with this crime!

I worry about an O.J.-type jury situation.

Casey and Baez are so smug. They talk of the "powers that are out to get" her.

They're really trying to turn this into an O.J.-type conspiracy, where jurors who are suspicious of LE are sympathetic to this cretin, Casey Anthony.

Already, we see people who are sympathic to her: sending her money for her commissary account.

I really want justice for Caylee.

Everytime I see Casey smiling, and acting like the belle of the ball, I want to puke.

She is the lowest form of life. I can't bear to look at her or her family anymore. They are worse than the mafia to me. They think society should not prosecute Casey for killing her own.

There are usually other choices for sentencing. Like, LWOP, life, so many years to life, etc. I have read about cases where the prosecution will only allow guilty for a certain degree of murder, say, murder one, and allow no other options. They certainly shot their own foot in those cases, IMO. As long as there are choices in the degree of murder, and choices in the sentence, I don't see anything that will keep jurors from voting guilty. Altho, I would hate to see the verdict for anything less than murder one.

[Amy]

Oooch!:eek: Ouch!:eek: Ewww!:eek: I thought perhaps he was just an ordinary jerk! But you make some very good points. :o

He's NG's donkey is mainly what I see. How does he legally get away with making statements no one in LE has made. That's what I don't get. He names dates, tells when Caylee was killed and what about the last person who saw Caylee alive.. some guy at the motel? What motel? WTH?
He is adamant that George did NOT see Caylee on June 16th.

IMO, the only way George saw Caylee on the 16th is if they left after midnight on the 15th. Like, 12:01 or 12:10. But CERTAINLY not after the 2 y/o would have been awake, wanting breakfast, wanting to go potty, etc, and certainly not in the early afternoon. IMO.

[Amy]

Good points, Loretta.

I'm sure Cindy has already concluded those were phony numbers and addresses, or ones belonging to Casey's friends.

C&G are so desperate to not lose their "ring finger," Casey, that they will do or say ANYTHING, regardless of the illogic or outright deceit of what they're saying.

They know in their hearts Casey did it. They try to convince the world that Casey is covering for someone else. But they cannot explain away the obvious question: If they suspect someone else besides their daughter, why aren't they doing everything they can to bring that person to justice???

Finding the real killer would solve all their problems wouldn't it?

But it's so much easier to blame law enforcement for a conspiracy to get Casey than to go after a non-existant nanny.

IMO, Cindy never had ANY numbers belonging to anyone purported to be Zany by Casey. From day one she and George both insisted they had no contact information for the person Casey called Zany. This was in the early days, before the cover-up went into full swing. And, amazingly, in all the time between July 15 and the depo--Cindy never, ever said to any reporter, to LE or FBI in interviews, to NG or the TODAY people or GMA or Geraldo or ANYONE, oh, by the way, I DO have numbers/addresses for Zany. Nope, the first and only time this is mentioned is in a depo in mid April--9 full months after that 911 phone call.

[Amy]

I agree, yes that C&G were not directly involved in the murder. But perhaps after the fact, they held on to discriminating information and maybe Lee threw a monkey wrench in. He does have a bit of a hero complex. His probably role in the dysfunctional family. (Though he acted like it was the Royal family at times.)

One of the statements Cindy made really went up my kazoo; she said "No, I would not have gotten angry if I knew Casey wasn't in her own bed or sleeping over TL's house. What Casey does with Caylee is none of my business." Then NG got her by saying, Well, now it's the police department's business.

Nice try Cindy! The whole world knows she had dibs on Caylee since she was born.

I have known women who are much less controlling than Cindy, and I'm telling you, they WOULD be mad if their granddaughter who lived w/them and for whom they provided complete financial support was sleeping @ some dude's house because her daughter wanted to stay there.

Sure, and Casey is an adult, and her business is her business. But, when she and her daughter live with and are supported by her mother, it IS her mother's business what is going on with that little girl. I'm not controlling, but even I think this is right. The semi-controlling moms are pretty ballistic about this, and I cannot imagine that any time in that 31 days that the ever controlling Cindy felt that where Caylee was and who she was with was none of her business. (If she really felt that way, would she have made all those calls, texted all those texts? Would she have sent Lee out to find them? I think not.)

[Amy]

http://www.wftv.com/news/19209119/detail.html#-

New Lawyer Joins Casey Defense Team

Posted: 12:51 pm EDT April 17, 2009Updated: 1:16 pm EDT April 17, 2009
ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. -- A new lawyer is joining Casey's defense team. Judge Stan Strickland gave Todd Macaluso the green-light Friday to join Casey's team.

Another pro-bono? :biggrin: Guess all these lawyers are figuring to get their names in lights for this high-profile case cuz don't suppose the pay will be too good....the A's are going to run out of never-before-published pics and videos of their dead grandbaby. Too bad they aren't ever mentioned enough to become house-hold names. Besides, I'm not too sure I would seek the services of an attorney who got on the Casey bandwagon. Well, if I needed a sneaky, underhanded, dishonest kind of attorney, I might look 'em up!!!

And, if they conduct themselves in the trial anything like Baez has to date--their reputations will be in the bottom of the mud-hole. Who wants an attorney who sounds like he didn't make it past the first semester of law school?

[lorettalockhorn]

I purposely, not once, ever mentioned chips because of you, and them, and Lent...but because you've been such a gooooooooood girl, here ya go, lifetime pass to your fave chip factory, my friend! You done good.

Get out the dip, cause we're coming through! http://i43.tinypic.com/2a6ouuo.jpg LOLOL

Zingo, not to worry, either way, she's not coming out when she goes into the big house. Nope. Methinks since the soil samples recently, and some other goodies LE hasn't shared yet, she's going down! If only they would tell us what else they really do have...:cool:

HEAVEN! I'm in heaven! (You know me so well!)

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TeeeHeeeee:D

Please notice that Gumby does not have The Black Forest growing in his armpits. :hat:

[lorettalockhorn]

Well, I've been just as adamant about the 16th, so I can't very well fault him, can I?

What about him going on and on about Lee being Caylee's father? Just disgusting he is. If I thought that or even knew that, I would pass it on to TPTB, but I wouldn't be announcing it night after night and setting myself up for a libel suit in case I was wrong. Honestly, I wish Lee would sue Leonard for all his toothpicks and Bowie knives or Jimmy Lyle knives (or whatever those are).


LOL! Yep! Something's wrong with that picture eh? He's a character. I'm sure the sue machine is in full throttle in the Anthony house. Long list. Is he able to say such things without making himself liable? It's wild!

Oops! Guess I meant slander there. Maybe if all the Ants are going to be on the new foundation's payroll for around $50k they won't need Lenny's big bucks. Oh wait! Cindy is a money grubber extraordinaire, she's gonna want Lee to go for it!

[lorettalockhorn]

[QUOTE=Danagher;9184092][QUOTE=lorettalockhorn;9184075]Well, I've been just as adamant about the 16th, so I can't very well fault him, can I?

I didn't hear/read enough about George's words about seein gCaylee on the 16th. Tell me why you don't believe it.

I thought it odd that Cindy and Casey had a knock down, drag out and she slept at home June 15th. But.. Why would George lie about seeing Caylee?

Couple of reasons. 1) He described in too much detail what Caylee was wearing, and 2) he gave some BS reason for knowing almost exactly what time it was the noon news program on Food Network (or some such) and then Cindy corrected him. He'd have been much better off to tell a plausible lie such as that he looked at his watch to make sure that Casey was going to get to work on time.

It makes no sense to me that after such a violent argument that Casey would have come back home and then left with Caylee for their time together. She left after the fight.

[lorettalockhorn]

http://www.wftv.com/news/19209119/detail.html#-

New Lawyer Joins Casey Defense Team

Posted: 12:51 pm EDT April 17, 2009Updated: 1:16 pm EDT April 17, 2009
ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. -- A new lawyer is joining Casey's defense team. Judge Stan Strickland gave Todd Macaluso the green-light Friday to join Casey's team.

Thanks for the link! Isn't this the guy who emptied a client's escrow account?? Florida doesn't have enough attorneys with bar issues they're importing them now?

[lorettalockhorn]

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Okay, but the pings how her there, or at least her cell phone was, until about 4 pm. Was she in the car? Or Lees? I can't picture her without her cell...

The level of detail on the clothing can mean three things, imo: 1) he has a mistaken memory by mixing up descriptions and memories 2) he's making up something that sounds good, or 3) the last time he saw Caylee is burned in his memory by something traumatic.

Don't the pings show that her phone was in the area of the tower that serves the Anthony's house? But not specifically at that house? So she was nearby doesn't mean that she and Caylee were in her room for hours without going potty or having breakfast. (And if memory serves, George didn't say anything about checking on Caylee to give her her breakfast which supposedly was his habit.

I think the detail on the clothing is mixed. The last time that he heard of Caylee being at the home was traumatic (maybe she got caught in the crossfire during the beatdown), or maybe that fight occurred late enough for him to have actually witnessed it, and it's possible that he knew what clothes Caylee was wearing when she was killed and dumped and the report of her wearing the denim skirt, backpack, etc is just to throw LE off track since he knew that she would be found with the little pink striped shorts.

[One2Snoop]

Gonzalez Attorneys Prepare For Anthonys On Oprah
No Sale Pending For Caylee Memorial Land

POSTED: 4:45 pm EDT April 17, 2009
UPDATED: 6:38 pm EDT April 17, 2009

ORLANDO, Fla. -- Attorneys for Zenaida Gonzalez said Friday they are preparing a packet of information in advance of George and Cindy Anthony appearing on national TV next month.

Gonzalez's lawyers said they plan to send the information to Oprah Winfrey in hopes she'll ask the Anthonys tougher questions.

Gonzalez is suing Casey Anthony because she said her reputation was ruined when she was named as the nanny who kidnapped Caylee. Casey Anthony is at the Orange County Jail, charged with first-degree murder in the death of her daughter, Caylee. Caylee's remains were found in a wooded area off of Suburban Drive near the Anthonys East Orange County home last December.

Gonzalez's lawyers said they're preparing video evidence showing how the Anthonys depositions last week contradicted their previous sworn testimony.

George Anthony was combative and refused to answer some of the more pointed questions posed by attorneys for Gonzalez.

The Anthony's attorney scolded Gonzalez's lawyers for their line of questioning.

Now Gonzalez's lawyers are questioning if it pains the Anthonys so much to answer their questions, why are they willing to go on national television and relive the nightmare of losing Caylee with Oprah?

Gonzalez's lawyers are also preparing what they said are videotaped examples to send to Winfrey of the Anthonys contradicting themselves in sworn testimony. Why?

"We hope that she will ask them some tough questions based on this information," attorney Keith Mitnik said.

They plan to share that information when they send it out next week.

Meanwhile, there is no sale pending on the land where slain toddler's Caylee Anthony's remains were found, WESH 2 News confirmed Friday.

In the online listing for the property, three photos show no evidence that a memorial with hundreds of stuffed animals still sits on that property.

The property is listed for $89,900.

http://www.wesh.com/news/19211221/detail.html

[lorettalockhorn]

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Yeah, I snipped a sentence out of mine I shouldn't have...that's what I wonder, where was she that she was nearby but not in the house?

After the way those depositions went, I would not be shocked by the death Caylee and the knowledge of George in particular. Where was Cindy that night for example? Do we know? What if she left after the confrontation, Casey stayed...

Maybe we'll find out more of everyone's itineraries when Baez gets everyone's phone records. (I assumed that LE had those and we just hadn't seen them yet. :shrug: ) From what I understand, the showdown between Cindy and Casey was late evening or into the night but before George was home, (not sure his shift) but if the fight was as late as LP claims, George may have witnessed it. Supposedly Casey left after the fight but returned when? No one knows? And why would she sleep under their roof after such a blowup? I think Lee's apartment operates off the same tower as the Ants' house. Suppose she could have stayed there and that's how Lee first learned about the fight instead of when Cindy brought her home in July.

If Casey did come home after the fight it's kinda scary to think that she might have killed Caylee in her room with George sitting twenty feet away in front of the boob tube.

[lorettalockhorn]

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George might well have seen her on the 16th, but she may not have been alive. I just have an image in my head of her "sleeping" over Casey's shoulder as she walks off. I'm not entirely sure George is lying because I can't see the point of it (unless he has something of his own to cover up, kwim?) but I am not sure Caylee left the house alive, either...

Well, thanks Jose for getting more of the details out there. Especially if its a sign that they will soon turn on each other...

Yes'm that's def a possibility. I guess I could claim that I feel that George is lying, that it's a gut feeling. But then y'all would make fun of my gut! :hat: Casey learned to lie somewhere. I'm thinking she learned from G&C.

[lorettalockhorn]

Just saw an episode of Forensic Files "Seedy Intentions" that used junk sciences-entomology and botany to convict the murderer. Something tells me the Anthony jury will be as smart as this one was.

[One2Snoop]

Oh lordy-that had to be tough. Chocolate is just a staple in any peri or post menopausal womens diet. It's our HRT. Take from one who doesn't crave it often but when i do i gotta have it. I think i may have mentioned the one late night i couldn't find any so i just ripped into a cake or maybe it was a brownie mix-just sat and ate the mix from a spoon. Ahhhhh life is good. :hat:

LOL, OMG girl, I remember when you posted that and ITA, when you crave it and gotta have it, watch out! As a matter of fact that just happened to me the other day. :tongue: :beer:

[One2Snoop]

I just had a thought-alert the press HA! What if Liar already had Caylee in the trunk and had carried out the deed. Could she have instigated or fueled the argument to have a reason to leave and be gone a bit. Am i tired and reaching here? That would mean of course G did not see either the next day which i'm not sure i buy anyway. A big blow out would give her reason to be gondy a bit without anyone really getting too alarmed. Buy her some time. I am sure there are some facts here that may poke some big holes in this ????

I think you're tired and reaching LOL. Go to bed. See ya tomorrow sometime...
:seeya:

Goodnight all - http://i41.tinypic.com/sb20c0.gif

[tv]

I'd like to know just who Baez thinks is picking on poor, pitiful Casey. After all her lies have been exposed and the whole world knows what an amoral tramp she is and we all know most of what LE knows regarding the physical and forensic evidence -- he really believes we should just cast that aside and believe the saintly words she is spouting now.

IMO Cindy's depo just added another nail to Casey's coffin when she claimed to have Zanny's address and phone number all along. She was frantic over the disappearance of her beloved granddaughter but thought trying to locate her through these numbers was none of her business. WTF??? Is there ANYONE on the face of this earth that believes that? Can't anyone in that freakin' family tell the truth???

And, YES, YES, YES to whoever posted that Cindy's eyes looked positively maniacal in the video of her depo. I believe the woman is truly walking on the edge.

I think she is too. The expression on her face was the same look psychos have in scary movies -- you know the one were they're smiling but they have an evil look in their eye? It's usually right before they whack somebody. I'm telling you -- it creeped me out!

[eatcupcakes]

Cindy is a liar I guess that is where her daughter learned it so well. But the truth which is their ememy will prove the case for the proscution. I will be happy with LWOP for Liar/Killer. Have you seen some of these people after they are behind bars for a few years. They look awfull. Very unhealthy looking after years of prison food, no preventative medicine, no hair dye or professionally styled hair, and white as a gost. I can't imagine living like that and knowing that I can never get out except in a box. I think thats enough punishment to satify me. Although what if by some freak thing she goes free, she better get the heck out of FLA because she won't live to long with the way the people feel about her there. And as with OJ she will be in trouble again and get what is due her. I love that OJ is now behind bars and has no control over anything, it must be killing him. LOL

[tv]

I know-kinda like Jack Nicholson in the Shining-Here's Johnnnny :D
Yep, that's it -- that's the look! :beer:

[eatcupcakes]

I think she is too. The expression on her face was the same look psychos have in scary movies -- you know the one were they're smiling but they have an evil look in their eye? It's usually right before they whack somebody. I'm telling you -- it creeped me out!

Have you seen some of the pics of the Liar while she is out partying. She looks like the evil witch in Sleeping Beauty. She is absolutly horrifying. I hope that was not the last thing that poor baby saw before she died.

[browneyes106]

i just don't believe that c & g were involved in the death or disposal of the body, based on the way they acted when the car was discovered and when it was discovered caylee was missing. They were honest then, talking about the decomposition. Then they changed their minds and started covering up. Jmo, moo

ita.

[eatcupcakes]

[/B]

Hey YOU! You want nawny to choke?

ROARING LAUGHING!!!

This is why the Liar has turned Bulimic. It is the only thing she can control. Can't text, can't email and can't have sex, can't drink. Her life is nothing but can't. The only thing she can do is eat and purge. Funny how she figured out how to control something even behind bars.

[One2Snoop]

Nancy Grace

Tot mom's fake nanny? 4:16
Did Casey Anthony get her description of the nanny she claims kidnapped Caylee from a t.v. show?

http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/crime/2009/04/18/ng.tot.mom.nanny.cnn

[One2Snoop]

Casey Anthony's jury: Could you be impartial?

By Henry Pierson Curtis | Sentinel Staff Writer
April 18, 2009

Everyone knows Casey.

Even the tiniest details in the death-penalty case against Casey Anthony are common knowledge in Orange County's neighborhoods, wealthy and poor, large and small.

Drive as far as possible without leaving the county and residents still know about her green shamrock tattoo and the red heart-shaped sticker found on her dead daughter Caylee's skull. It's hard to imagine anyone untainted by the pretrial publicity.

"How could you not be? " asked Tony Geraci outside the Oakland Post Office serving 1,200 residents on the Lake County line. "You can't avoid it."

An original Walt Disney World cast member, the retired executive chef remembers every high-profile local murder case since moving to Central Florida in 1970. None compare to the constant, near 24-hour media coverage that followed 2-year-old Caylee Anthony's disappearance last summer.

"I don't think I could sit on a jury in that case," said Geraci, who questioned his impartiality. "The whole thing started out and turned into a circus too quickly."

Last week, Orlando Sentinel reporters asked county residents whether they would be willing to serve as jurors in the wake of Orange-Osceola State Attorney Lawson Lamar announcing he wants Anthony put to death if she is convicted of killing her child.

Hardly anyone declined comment.

Before saying whether they would sit on the jury, most expressed a mixture of disgust with the way the case has been handled so far. That included law-enforcement leaks, Anthony's defense team, Lamar's prosecution and reporters' daily, sometimes hourly, updates on Anthony's life and the lengthy list of bounty hunters, private eyes and psychics voicing opinions.

Peter Kearsley couldn't avoid the case, even stopping for water at Killarney Station while riding his mountain bike on the West Orange Trail. He doubts 12 impartial jurors can be found anywhere in the state.

"Basically, I'm sick and tired of it. There are so many other things going on in the world that it's a distraction," said Kearsley, lamenting that the case has overshadowed important news about a global recession, the Iraq war and threatened closings of Orange County schools.

"I've been overexposed to it, and that's a national issue, not just here in Orange County. Whenever I'm in New York or Chicago, it's playing on CNN and getting loads of attention."

Undecided about Anthony's innocence or guilt on premeditated murder, Kearsley said Lamar's decision to seek the death penalty looks like a tactic to force a plea bargain.

On the county's east side, Michael Buckle is ready for jury duty, willing to listen to weeks of testimony and decide whether Anthony's guilty. But there's a catch. He doesn't support the death penalty.

"You already have a dead child," he said. "There's no need in taking another life."

Buckle said he wishes the Anthony case would simply go away but "the court has to do its due process" and the trial should be held here.

Nearby, scores of Orlando-area residents exercised Thursday afternoon on the Little Econ Greenway trail in Jay Blanchard Park. It's where UCF graduate student Nicole Ganguzza was murdered last summer in an unsolved crime that many in law enforcement think has been overshadowed by attention to the Anthony case.

David and Ana Ruiz, who were walking their French bulldog, also doubted Anthony can get a fair trial here.

"It's too personal for a lot of folks around here," he said.

The couple's adult daughter disagreed slightly.

"I don't think she'd get a fair trial anywhere," Melinda Ruiz said.

In downtown Orlando, mothers watching their children at the Lake Eola playground have no interest in sitting on the jury.

"I don't want to see pictures of a [dead] child who is my daughter's age," said Erin Schauer of Oviedo. "Any mother who doesn't report their child missing for a month should be sentenced to death."

At Orlando Fashion Square mall on East Colonial Drive, Valerie Johnson of Orlando said her faith would prevent her from sitting on a jury in a death case.

"I wouldn't want to make that decision. ... Only God can," said Johnson, a human-resources director who thinks Anthony is probably guilty. "I don't know if she deserves the death penalty."

In Windermere, Daisy Vina cared for the latest child in her 15-year career as a nanny by walking with the year-old girl in a stroller. A mother of three and a grandmother as well, Vina says every young mother faces frustration but nothing justifies hurting a child.

"If it's proven she did it, I would raise my hand and say she deserves to die," Vina said. "Her child won't be free until her killer is convicted."

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/orl-aseccasey19041809apr18,0,213902.story

[Amy]

Nancy Grace

Tot mom's fake nanny? 4:16
Did Casey Anthony get her description of the nanny she claims kidnapped Caylee from a t.v. show?

http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/crime/2009/04/18/ng.tot.mom.nanny.cnn

Is this a recent show? How could she call this "breaking news" as that information has been around for how many months?

[One2Snoop]

Is this a recent show? How could she call this "breaking news" as that information has been around for how many months?

The date said April 18th. You know NG - everything is breaking news even when its not.

ETA: Source: CNN
Added On April 18, 2009

I'm assuming this is from Fridays show? :shrug: I'll check the transcript.

[One2Snoop]

From Friday April 17th show...

GRACE: Good evening. I`m Nancy Grace. I want to thank you for being with us. Police hone in on one particular episode of smash TV hit "One Tree Hill." It aired March 2008. Why? The show plot was about a nanny who kidnaps a little child from the mommy. Well, the nanny on the TV show looks exactly like the nanny tot mom describes who kidnapped Caylee. And get this. Tot mom Googled and pulled up that episode, that TV episode, just before Caylee goes missing.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0904/17/ng.01.html

[lorettalockhorn]

Is this a recent show? How could she call this "breaking news" as that information has been around for how many months?

LOL She does that so often!

[Amy]

The date said April 18th. You know NG - everything is breaking news even when its not.

ETA: Source: CNN
Added On April 18, 2009

I'm assuming this is from Fridays show? :shrug: I'll check the transcript.

I saw the date, but just couldn't believe she was just now addressing this info.
Was thinking maybe it was an old show, but the date showed up cuz it was just now being put on utube or whatever that was.

[lorettalockhorn]

http://i40.tinypic.com/259hljm.jpg
Cindy's Zanny

http://i44.tinypic.com/2mccay1.jpg
George's Zanny

Or is it the other way around?!?!? LMAO

[Gatordog]

The way she smoozes the celebrities, I can't see her actually asking any hard or difficult questions. It will be a total platform for the Anthonys to lie and relie and for Oprah to look sympathetic. If it turns out different, I would be shocked.

I haven't been on the Board for a few days so this may have aleady been noted - Morgan et al is trying to get in touch with Harpo Productions to give them the information regarding all the lies which were told by the Ants at the deposition. They are hoping Oprah will ask some difficult questions and are trying to supply the producers with evidence of their dishonesty so Oprah can be aware and bring it up. :beer:

Gator

[Gatordog]

Casey Anthony's jury: Could you be impartial?

By Henry Pierson Curtis | Sentinel Staff Writer
April 18, 2009

Everyone knows Casey.

Even the tiniest details in the death-penalty case against Casey Anthony are common knowledge in Orange County's neighborhoods, wealthy and poor, large and small.

Drive as far as possible without leaving the county and residents still know about her green shamrock tattoo and the red heart-shaped sticker found on her dead daughter Caylee's skull. It's hard to imagine anyone untainted by the pretrial publicity.

"How could you not be? " asked Tony Geraci outside the Oakland Post Office serving 1,200 residents on the Lake County line. "You can't avoid it."

An original Walt Disney World cast member, the retired executive chef remembers every high-profile local murder case since moving to Central Florida in 1970. None compare to the constant, near 24-hour media coverage that followed 2-year-old Caylee Anthony's disappearance last summer.

"I don't think I could sit on a jury in that case," said Geraci, who questioned his impartiality. "The whole thing started out and turned into a circus too quickly."

Last week, Orlando Sentinel reporters asked county residents whether they would be willing to serve as jurors in the wake of Orange-Osceola State Attorney Lawson Lamar announcing he wants Anthony put to death if she is convicted of killing her child.

Hardly anyone declined comment.

Before saying whether they would sit on the jury, most expressed a mixture of disgust with the way the case has been handled so far. That included law-enforcement leaks, Anthony's defense team, Lamar's prosecution and reporters' daily, sometimes hourly, updates on Anthony's life and the lengthy list of bounty hunters, private eyes and psychics voicing opinions.

Peter Kearsley couldn't avoid the case, even stopping for water at Killarney Station while riding his mountain bike on the West Orange Trail. He doubts 12 impartial jurors can be found anywhere in the state.

"Basically, I'm sick and tired of it. There are so many other things going on in the world that it's a distraction," said Kearsley, lamenting that the case has overshadowed important news about a global recession, the Iraq war and threatened closings of Orange County schools.

"I've been overexposed to it, and that's a national issue, not just here in Orange County. Whenever I'm in New York or Chicago, it's playing on CNN and getting loads of attention."

Undecided about Anthony's innocence or guilt on premeditated murder, Kearsley said Lamar's decision to seek the death penalty looks like a tactic to force a plea bargain.

On the county's east side, Michael Buckle is ready for jury duty, willing to listen to weeks of testimony and decide whether Anthony's guilty. But there's a catch. He doesn't support the death penalty.

"You already have a dead child," he said. "There's no need in taking another life."

Buckle said he wishes the Anthony case would simply go away but "the court has to do its due process" and the trial should be held here.Nearby, scores of Orlando-area residents exercised Thursday afternoon on the Little Econ Greenway trail in Jay Blanchard Park. It's where UCF graduate student Nicole Ganguzza was murdered last summer in an unsolved crime that many in law enforcement think has been overshadowed by attention to the Anthony case.

David and Ana Ruiz, who were walking their French bulldog, also doubted Anthony can get a fair trial here.

"It's too personal for a lot of folks around here," he said.

The couple's adult daughter disagreed slightly.

"I don't think she'd get a fair trial anywhere," Melinda Ruiz said.

In downtown Orlando, mothers watching their children at the Lake Eola playground have no interest in sitting on the jury.

"I don't want to see pictures of a [dead] child who is my daughter's age," said Erin Schauer of Oviedo. "Any mother who doesn't report their child missing for a month should be sentenced to death."

At Orlando Fashion Square mall on East Colonial Drive, Valerie Johnson of Orlando said her faith would prevent her from sitting on a jury in a death case.

"I wouldn't want to make that decision. ... Only God can," said Johnson, a human-resources director who thinks Anthony is probably guilty. "I don't know if she deserves the death penalty."

In Windermere, Daisy Vina cared for the latest child in her 15-year career as a nanny by walking with the year-old girl in a stroller. A mother of three and a grandmother as well, Vina says every young mother faces frustration but nothing justifies hurting a child.

"If it's proven she did it, I would raise my hand and say she deserves to die," Vina said. "Her child won't be free until her killer is convicted."

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/orl-aseccasey19041809apr18,0,213902.story

I know Mike - we're going to have to have a little chat on Monday.

Gator

[Gatordog]

ROTFL!!! Okay, I'm ready captain! Just go to Brooklyn and get me the good Provala and prosciutto! Oh, and stop at that place that makes the ravioli near the window. Ohl! Oh!
and Genoa Salami too! And the good, virgin olive oil if you see it.

Thank you :)

If I don't watch Oprah it's because I'm in handcuffs. Hmmm, then I get to go see, you know who. That putana will know hell when she sees Nawny with that rollin pin. She don't know nuthin yet.
Nevah mind the police, fuggeddaboudit!

;)

I wish you would take that rolling pin to Cindy's head too. Cindy may not have been involved in the murder, but she doesn't have clean hands either. After seeing her all crazed at the depo, I can now understand why the Liar is the person she is. She was brought up believing that she was entitled because she was "gorgeous" and then she was tossed aside when caylee was born. Perhaps she stole from her family to get attention. Caylee was Snow White and Casey became the wicked queen when she was no longer the fairest in the land. The chloroform became the poisonous apple.

Gator

[Gatordog]

Yeah, but you put it up against Jane Velez-Mitchell's mullet...who wins?

Just to clarify: I am no job snob! I was bugged by LP's assumption that any woman who cleans houses dreams of becoming a babysitter. It also implied that housecleaning was a lower level of work than babysitting. I actually don't think there is any low level of work, and I don't know why people push the college education to the exclusion of other options. I have learned from experience that many college degrees will get you less pay than a good construction position (for example, way back when I was painting a gallery for $12.00 and hour-position required at least a BA since it was "museum". The union painters came over and laughed at us- they were being paid $27 per by the same employer. No BA needed. We felt stupid. And then we went home and paid our student loans, too, lol!)

I can live with the mullet - it's that frosted lipstick that makes my skin crawl.

gator

[Gatordog]

I agree Cindy seems extremely self centered. I She should have respected Casey's wishes and let Caylee be adopted. I wonder if George would have been ok with Caylee being adopted. I think at the time of Casey's pregnancy she should went to an adoption center or somewhere and made arrangements for Caylee to be adopted. She was over 18 at the time of the pregnancy. I think Caylee's paternity would have kept the adoption from happening. They would wanted her father tracked down to sign away his rights. I have a theory that Cindy somehow broke up Casey and Jesse because she figured they would have gotten married and Jesse would have been raising Caylee as his own. I think Cindy didn't want to share Caylee wit the Grunds. In the end it was just a bad situation.

JMO, but Casey never had any intention of putting Caylee up for adoption. She only told that to her friend who was unable to have children. Jesse wanted to put caylee up for adoption and Casey was dead set against it.

Gator

[Amy]

Verrrry gooood ec! Interesting stuff huh? There is the classic sociopath/narcissist/control freak. That works!

I'm surprised none of the counselor/pschytrist/psychologist type of TH didn't bring this to her attention. Or, maybe one of them weren't on the panel, or perhaps she just wanted to continue on her rant, didn't want anyone to bring it all back down to earth. She's (NG) not a dumb person, she surely has to know this is a disorder, she's just wanting to yell about Casey. IMO.

[browneyes106]

I had to work overtime last night so I missed NG. I kind of think the description of Torrey Devito who played the nanny on One Tree Hill is similar to the description of "Zanny".

[lorettalockhorn]

I had to work overtime last night so I missed NG. I kind of think the description of Torrey Devito who played the nanny on One Tree Hill is similar to the description of "Zanny".

I posted two of her pix on the previous page; one accounts for Cindy's description and one accounts for George's.

BTW Does anyone wonder how Cindy spelled Zanny's name in her address book? :hat:

[DrewBerry]

Why would Casey want Caylee dead?

My thoughts.

The first thing that comes to mind is, Cindy continued to threaten to take Caylee away from her. As Casey told Lee their "mom" said I am a terrible mother." A self fulfilled prophesy? I get that they hated each other and were having an ego war over Caylee. Casey wanted to win. She tried to annihilate her opponent because she believed she COULD! Just a well planned war strategy.

The other motive of course is, Caylee was in Casey's way. She Cramped her style. Thirdly, she was nuts/drugged/socio/spoiled brat who wanted some sort of instant gratification. I know that's broad. But they will want to establish a motive won't they?

While watching NG last night and seeing Cindy's eyes so full of anger and defiance, I wondered who she was really angry with. If Casey and Cindy have been at war for so long, and Cindy refused to cave, she is still in that posture. IMO. She is angry with Casey and every nuance of her state of mind is saying, You will NOT win this one. I will win this one. But no one told her she already lost. It's her turn to surrender and obvious to everyone but her! She is a determined woman with a dogged (near rabid) obsession to argue and win every argument. I'd think being her daughter was a detriment to life itself.

She doesn't cry I noticed. Even when she's being asked heart wrenching questions, she seethes her retorts like: "She's a person too" with such a detestable, vile tone to her voice. It was scary I tell ya. I didn't see grief, I saw hate. Deep seeded, historic and quite polished around the edges. This woman is the crux of the case. I strongly believe Casey is going to destroy her completely. So far she is like a snake with multiple heads and Casey has been hacking off one head at a time while new ones grow in their place. Like a hydra? Spitting disgust at ZFG's attorneys is transferred hysteria IMO. She can't do it to Casey anymore and she's stuck on that channel. I believe that even if Casey gets the DP, Cindy will go on with her hate, blame, sarcasm and maybe be eligible for the 3 hots and a cot herself if she dares to try that at trial. Obvious to me that it won't change her. She's going to fit right in with those career criminals. IMO.

What other motive can there be, but to destroy Cindy?

Nawny is in her arm chair this morning.

You got it right, Nawny. The Liar has hated her mother for years and for many reasons: (1) Cindy wouldn't allow Casey to get an abortion or give the baby up for adoption; (2) Baby Caylee quickly replaced Casey and Cindy nagged and controlled Casey and constantly told her what a rotten mother she was; (3) Casey not only hated her mother for this, I believe she hated Caylee as well; (4) the only way to destroy Cindy was to destroy Caylee. It was payback time.
Cindy raised a narcissistic sociopath. Cindy is a liar; Casey is a Liar, Lee is a Liar, and now George is a liar. They are ALL under Cindy's control. Sick stuff but this is who they are. IMO.
DrewB

[lighthousedazy]

You got it right, Nawny. The Liar has hated her mother for years and for many reasons: (1) Cindy wouldn't allow Casey to get an abortion or give the baby up for adoption; (2) Baby Caylee quickly replaced Casey and Cindy nagged and controlled Casey and constantly told her what a rotten mother she was; (3) Casey not only hated her mother for this, I believe she hated Caylee as well; (4) the only way to destroy Cindy was to destroy Caylee. It was payback time.
Cindy raised a narcissistic sociopath. Cindy is a liar; Casey is a Liar, Lee is a Liar, and now George is a liar. They are ALL under Cindy's control. Sick stuff but this is who they are. IMO.
DrewBI just can't understand these people. My mom and I didn't get along too well in my teenage years, but I would never hurt my children and there were times that I thought I could have hated my mom, but I got over that and I loved my children and considered them a gift from God. I cannot see how someone could kill their child. :(
Also, in my middle age years I realized that I loved my mom dearly, may she RIP. jmo :rose: I guess the Anthonys are a different cut.

[eatcupcakes]

I wish you would take that rolling pin to Cindy's head too. Cindy may not have been involved in the murder, but she doesn't have clean hands either. After seeing her all crazed at the depo, I can now understand why the Liar is the person she is. She was brought up believing that she was entitled because she was "gorgeous" and then she was tossed aside when caylee was born. Perhaps she stole from her family to get attention. Caylee was Snow White and Casey became the wicked queen when she was no longer the fairest in the land. The chloroform became the poisonous apple.

Gator

Very good comparisom. :beer:

[Native Alien]

I posted this somewhere else as an answer to the question about Todd M becoming a part of the "dream team". One of Todd's specialties is premise liability.

What if the defense is going to go with the scenario that Caylee got into the pool herself and drown, at which point Casey panicked and tried to get her mother on the phone, but Cindy didn't take the call? Finally Casey got Caylee out of the pool and then dressed her so that George thought that he saw them leave together, and then dumped Caylee in the woods a couple of days later.

How does that work with Casey hates Cindy and wants nothing more than to one up Cindy?

[lorettalockhorn]

I posted this somewhere else as an answer to the question about Todd M becoming a part of the "dream team". One of Todd's specialties is premise liability.

What if the defense is going to go with the scenario that Caylee got into the pool herself and drown, at which point Casey panicked and tried to get her mother on the phone, but Cindy didn't take the call? Finally Casey got Caylee out of the pool and then dressed her so that George thought that he saw them leave together, and then dumped Caylee in the woods a couple of days later.

How does that work with Casey hates Cindy and wants nothing more than to one up Cindy?

I'd love to think that Casey didn't kill Caylee to take her away from Cindy or to punish her, but I cannot imagine the defense pointing the finger at their own client, in fact they can't. Baez has said over and again that Casey isn't going to take a plea (real OR imagined!).

The accidental drowning is a good scenario, but that still leaves Caylee's "missing" unreported for 31 days and her body being dumped, etc. The jury's going to hate her and probably G&C too.

[DrewBerry]

I'd love to think that Casey didn't kill Caylee to take her away from Cindy or to punish her, but I cannot imagine the defense pointing the finger at their own client, in fact they can't. Baez has said over and again that Casey isn't going to take a plea (real OR imagined!).

The accidental drowning is a good scenario, but that still leaves Caylee's "missing" unreported for 31 days and her body being dumped, etc. The jury's going to hate her and probably G&C too.

Hey, Loretta. ITA the jury's going to hate all the ANTS. There is no way Caylee's death was accidental no matter what the scenario. I also don't believe the Liar impulsively killed her daughter. The Liar thought of Caylee as disposable object. Just like Scott Peterson. I think the Liar planned it and had her "kidnapping story" ready to go 31 days later when Cindy caught up with her. I also think that Liar never thought Caylee's little body would ever be found (also like SP). I think she believed "no body, no crime."
I, too, have wondered how Cindy spelled Zanny's (sp?) name in her "address book." Does anyone know if Cindy's "address/phone book" been confiscated?
Since Cindy claims she had "lots of phone numbers" for the nanny. :flamemad:
DrewB

[DrewBerry]

Agree! Absolutely planned! She had her story before Cindy lit the wick. IMO

Cindy is a creep. No numbers, just trying to screw up the dep, but I think she aimed for her foot. :flamemad:

Yes about Cindy. Can you believe the murderous rage she exhibits during those depositions? Her eyes are just filled with hate. She is really crazy. Can you imagine what it was like living in that house of hell? No wonder George left. He needs to grow a pair and come clean and stop letting that control freak of a wife dictate what he says and does.
I hope as this case progresses, Cindy gets nailed for obstruction. I used to feel sorry for the grandparents. Not anymore. These people think the laws don't apply to them!:flamemad:
DrewB

[DrewBerry]

Certifiably crazy yep, and like her brother said, She is stupid too.

All at once there comes a time when we give grief its due with those people. But for the life of me, I never saw grief act that way.

Somewhere along the line they have to accept that this is really happening and stop trying to unring the bell. That is their only hope. Face it, weep, grieve and feel the truth. It can't be anything less than hell for them, it's true. But it F- happened and there is no way out BUT acceptance.

Grief doesn't kill anyone, lies kill. Many people are suffering for the loss of loved ones, not just them! The horrors that took place in that family have producers and directors. That's the problem that outweighs their grief. Grief alone, pays respect to life itself. IMO

Probably why they can't grieve. It appears to me that they never respected anything or anyone. Pity is looking for a sound here. I try not to judge, honestly I do. I'm unable to pity these people and I feel bad about that. :no:

Well said, Nawny! I tried to have sympathy for awhile but this family continues to lie and blame others for what their family has done. Sorry, no more pity for any of them. They refuse to take responsibility for anything.
JMHO.
DrewB

[tv]

Certifiably crazy yep, and like her brother said, She is stupid too.

All at once there comes a time when we give grief its due with those people. But for the life of me, I never saw grief act that way.

Somewhere along the line they have to accept that this is really happening and stop trying to unring the bell. That is their only hope. Face it, weep, grieve and feel the truth. It can't be anything less than hell for them, it's true. But it F- happened and there is no way out BUT acceptance.

Grief doesn't kill anyone, lies kill. Many people are suffering for the loss of loved ones, not just them! The horrors that took place in that family have producers and directors. That's the problem that outweighs their grief. Grief alone, pays respect to life itself. IMO

Probably why they can't grieve. It appears to me that they never respected anything or anyone. Pity is looking for a sound here. I try not to judge, honestly I do. I'm unable to pity these people and I feel bad about that. :no:
Great post. :beer: I defended Cindy having any responsibility for what happened to Caylee. I never did like her behavior after Caylee went but I felt sorry for her. Now, she's downright scary! I don't trust George either but if I were him I'd sleep with one eye open. Casey is obviously a product of her upbringing. You can't always blame the parents -- I know some bad kids with good parents and vice versa but it's obvious this bunch is about as dysfunctional as it gets. :eek:

[tv]

Hey, Loretta. ITA the jury's going to hate all the ANTS. There is no way Caylee's death was accidental no matter what the scenario. I also don't believe the Liar impulsively killed her daughter. The Liar thought of Caylee as disposable object. Just like Scott Peterson. I think the Liar planned it and had her "kidnapping story" ready to go 31 days later when Cindy caught up with her. I also think that Liar never thought Caylee's little body would ever be found (also like SP). I think she believed "no body, no crime."
I, too, have wondered how Cindy spelled Zanny's (sp?) name in her "address book." Does anyone know if Cindy's "address/phone book" been confiscated?
Since Cindy claims she had "lots of phone numbers" for the nanny. :flamemad:
DrewB

And what about Caylee talking about Zanny's dog? Didn't George tell the police that when Zanny's name was mentioned Caylee showed no recognition? They need to get their lies straight.

[deacon]

IMO, Cindy never had ANY numbers belonging to anyone purported to be Zany by Casey. From day one she and George both insisted they had no contact information for the person Casey called Zany. This was in the early days, before the cover-up went into full swing. And, amazingly, in all the time between July 15 and the depo--Cindy never, ever said to any reporter, to LE or FBI in interviews, to NG or the TODAY people or GMA or Geraldo or ANYONE, oh, by the way, I DO have numbers/addresses for Zany. Nope, the first and only time this is mentioned is in a depo in mid April--9 full months after that 911 phone call.

And that will come back to bite her in the butt.:eek:

[eatcupcakes]

Hey, Loretta. ITA the jury's going to hate all the ANTS. There is no way Caylee's death was accidental no matter what the scenario. I also don't believe the Liar impulsively killed her daughter. The Liar thought of Caylee as disposable object. Just like Scott Peterson. I think the Liar planned it and had her "kidnapping story" ready to go 31 days later when Cindy caught up with her. I also think that Liar never thought Caylee's little body would ever be found (also like SP). I think she believed "no body, no crime."
I, too, have wondered how Cindy spelled Zanny's (sp?) name in her "address book." Does anyone know if Cindy's "address/phone book" been confiscated?
Since Cindy claims she had "lots of phone numbers" for the nanny. :flamemad:
DrewB

Cindy was high on Chewing Gum when she said that she had ZG phone number at the DP. LOL

[deacon]

We're biting it now Deacan! :hat:

There were a lot of statements she made that I felt were made to make clear, she isn't answering hard questions. She was being sarcastic most of the time. Don't you think so?

I joke around with poppa and sometimes I use sarcasm. For instance:

Nawny: I washed the coffee pot
Poppa: I hope you didn't leave the plug in when you did.
Nawny: Yes I did. I'm not really here. I'm a figment of your imagination.
Poppa: Oh, you're here in spirit?
Nawny: Yes and I can see your socks on the floor in the bedroom from here.
Poppa: Ewwww.... :tongue:


I can see it now. If she does end up on the stand in the murder trial everything she has said during all of this is going to come out and she will not be able to handle it. She will blow up on the stand and try to question the prosecuter and all it will get her is time for contempt. I really think that will drive her over the edge. Oh well, "be sure your sins will find you out."

[eatcupcakes]

Hey, Loretta. ITA the jury's going to hate all the ANTS. There is no way Caylee's death was accidental no matter what the scenario. I also don't believe the Liar impulsively killed her daughter. The Liar thought of Caylee as disposable object. Just like Scott Peterson. I think the Liar planned it and had her "kidnapping story" ready to go 31 days later when Cindy caught up with her. I also think that Liar never thought Caylee's little body would ever be found (also like SP). I think she believed "no body, no crime."
I, too, have wondered how Cindy spelled Zanny's (sp?) name in her "address book." Does anyone know if Cindy's "address/phone book" been confiscated?
Since Cindy claims she had "lots of phone numbers" for the nanny. :flamemad:
DrewB

:beer: Got to agree with you. If it was and accident and the kid drowned then why the duct tape? No need for that if she was already dead when put in the bags. I'd bet my first born that is what the proscution will say if Bozo goes there.

[One2Snoop]

Execute Casey? Not a chance -- but now she might cut a deal

Mike Thomas | COMMENTARY
April 19, 2009

State Attorney Lawson Lamar says he wants to kill Casey Anthony, which I suppose is one way of guaranteeing she dies of old age.

The odds of Casey taking a lethal snooze are about equal to the odds she'll celebrate with milk and cookies if exonerated.

Even Lamar understands that.

For historical reference, I refer you to Richard Adams, an evil psychopath who brutally beat and stomped his 6-year-old daughter Kayla to death. Lake prosecutors tried, but failed, to get a death sentence against him.

And Adams was much more loathsome than Casey. There was no doubt about his guilt. Kayla's body testified to the horrors of the crime.

Lamar has nothing close to this strong a case against Casey. He has no confession, no cause of death and no indication of premeditation. Evidence consists of Casey's mysterious and indifferent behavior, her compulsive lying, a piece of fairly common duct tape and iffy evidence that there once was a body in the trunk of the abandoned family Pontiac.

Casey's defense team may be headed by José Baez, a not-ready-for-prime-time Kissimmee lawyer whom I wouldn't hire to defend my traffic ticket. But he is backed by some serious talent, including New York defense attorney Linda Kenney Baden, criminalist Henry Lee and forensic scientist Larry Kobilinsky, a regular on Nancy Grace.

I imagine they will put the prosecution's trunk-sniffing machine — the one used to indicate the presence of a body in the car — on the witness stand and make a convincing case it can't sniff the difference between a cadaver, a rotten pizza or a bottle of Chanel No. 5.

And any number of expert witnesses could testify that it's typical for a woman who has lost a daughter to go into shock, forget the mystery nanny's name, grab a six-pack, call up the gang and put off notifying the cops for a month.

You scoff at this only if you haven't seen a good lawyer magnify preposterous notions into gaping chasms of reasonable doubt.

Lamar obviously has to be concerned.

So his best offense has become a good bluff: the death penalty. His office resurrected it last week after ruling it out in December. The official explanation is that "sufficient aggravating circumstances" have come to light.

Like what, more pictures of Casey wrapped in an American flag guzzling beer?

This is nothing more than an old prosecutor's trick.

It goes like this: To get seated for a death-penalty trial, a juror must say during the selection process that he or she is willing to sentence someone to death. This tends to weed out the softies and liberals like Scott Maxwell and myself, giving prosecutors more of a law-and-order jury — one more likely to convict.

Noted Harvard law professor Alan Dershowitz claimed prosecutors in Texas used this tactic to get a conviction against Andrea Yates, who drowned her five children in 2001.

"The prosecutors ... never really expected, nor even wanted, the jury to return a death sentence," he wrote in an analysis. "They manipulated the death penalty processing order to get a pro-prosecution jury, more likely to reject the insanity defense and return a verdict of guilt. This tactic, well known to those who practice criminal law, is becoming more widespread in states which authorize the death penalty."

Her conviction was overturned on appeal, and Yates subsequently was ruled not guilt by reason of insanity.

Jury consultant Beth Bochnak from the National Jury Project, calls this ploy a "massive problem."

She says the focus on the death penalty during the selection process gives potential jurors the impression that guilt is a foregone conclusion, or else why would everybody be harping on the punishment?

"I recently heard from jurors in a capital [murder] case," Bochnak says. "One told me about another juror in the deliberations who was completely confused because he thought the guy already was convicted."

Dershowitz hopes the courts "will finally declare this practice unethical, even unconstitutional."

Until then, this is Lamar's best hope to force Casey into a plea deal that could spare his office a long and expensive trial, followed by a very bad outcome.

Not only have prosecutors stacked the deck against her, they have added considerable time and cost to her defense. That may temper the enthusiasm of some of her defenders who obviously won't be getting paid their normal hourly wage.

And Casey now has something new to think about: the image of being strapped down on a gurney, a jail nurse prepping her veins.

Maybe that will make her squirm enough to end this freak show. If this is prosecutorial misconduct, then this one time I can look the other way.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/orange/orl-locmiket19041909apr19,0,6936648.column

[deacon]

Execute Casey? Not a chance -- but now she might cut a deal

Mike Thomas | COMMENTARY
April 19, 2009

State Attorney Lawson Lamar says he wants to kill Casey Anthony, which I suppose is one way of guaranteeing she dies of old age.

The odds of Casey taking a lethal snooze are about equal to the odds she'll celebrate with milk and cookies if exonerated.

Even Lamar understands that.

For historical reference, I refer you to Richard Adams, an evil psychopath who brutally beat and stomped his 6-year-old daughter Kayla to death. Lake prosecutors tried, but failed, to get a death sentence against him.

And Adams was much more loathsome than Casey. There was no doubt about his guilt. Kayla's body testified to the horrors of the crime.

Lamar has nothing close to this strong a case against Casey. He has no confession, no cause of death and no indication of premeditation. Evidence consists of Casey's mysterious and indifferent behavior, her compulsive lying, a piece of fairly common duct tape and iffy evidence that there once was a body in the trunk of the abandoned family Pontiac.

Casey's defense team may be headed by José Baez, a not-ready-for-prime-time Kissimmee lawyer whom I wouldn't hire to defend my traffic ticket. But he is backed by some serious talent, including New York defense attorney Linda Kenney Baden, criminalist Henry Lee and forensic scientist Larry Kobilinsky, a regular on Nancy Grace.

I imagine they will put the prosecution's trunk-sniffing machine — the one used to indicate the presence of a body in the car — on the witness stand and make a convincing case it can't sniff the difference between a cadaver, a rotten pizza or a bottle of Chanel No. 5.
And any number of expert witnesses could testify that it's typical for a woman who has lost a daughter to go into shock, forget the mystery nanny's name, grab a six-pack, call up the gang and put off notifying the cops for a month.

You scoff at this only if you haven't seen a good lawyer magnify preposterous notions into gaping chasms of reasonable doubt.

Lamar obviously has to be concerned.

So his best offense has become a good bluff: the death penalty. His office resurrected it last week after ruling it out in December. The official explanation is that "sufficient aggravating circumstances" have come to light.

Like what, more pictures of Casey wrapped in an American flag guzzling beer?

This is nothing more than an old prosecutor's trick.

It goes like this: To get seated for a death-penalty trial, a juror must say during the selection process that he or she is willing to sentence someone to death. This tends to weed out the softies and liberals like Scott Maxwell and myself, giving prosecutors more of a law-and-order jury — one more likely to convict.

Noted Harvard law professor Alan Dershowitz claimed prosecutors in Texas used this tactic to get a conviction against Andrea Yates, who drowned her five children in 2001.

"The prosecutors ... never really expected, nor even wanted, the jury to return a death sentence," he wrote in an analysis. "They manipulated the death penalty processing order to get a pro-prosecution jury, more likely to reject the insanity defense and return a verdict of guilt. This tactic, well known to those who practice criminal law, is becoming more widespread in states which authorize the death penalty."

Her conviction was overturned on appeal, and Yates subsequently was ruled not guilt by reason of insanity.

Jury consultant Beth Bochnak from the National Jury Project, calls this ploy a "massive problem."

She says the focus on the death penalty during the selection process gives potential jurors the impression that guilt is a foregone conclusion, or else why would everybody be harping on the punishment?

"I recently heard from jurors in a capital [murder] case," Bochnak says. "One told me about another juror in the deliberations who was completely confused because he thought the guy already was convicted."

Dershowitz hopes the courts "will finally declare this practice unethical, even unconstitutional."

Until then, this is Lamar's best hope to force Casey into a plea deal that could spare his office a long and expensive trial, followed by a very bad outcome.

Not only have prosecutors stacked the deck against her, they have added considerable time and cost to her defense. That may temper the enthusiasm of some of her defenders who obviously won't be getting paid their normal hourly wage.

And Casey now has something new to think about: the image of being strapped down on a gurney, a jail nurse prepping her veins.

Maybe that will make her squirm enough to end this freak show. If this is prosecutorial misconduct, then this one time I can look the other way.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/orange/orl-locmiket19041909apr19,0,6936648.column


He has premeditation with the computer searches.

Fairly common duct tape can be traced and it can be proven to come from a particular roll.

The "sniffing machine" is a scientifically proven method of finding traces of chemicals produced only by a decomposing human body.

Some of the "reporters" need to do a little research before sitting down to their keyboards.:shrug:

[eatcupcakes]

trouble yum? Judicial fruit? Troubleicious? Tri(al)dent? http://i44.tinypic.com/28uu1j8.png

roflmao

[deacon]

[/B]

Good post Deacon!:seeya:
I don' t hope you're right but I think you are. Part of me does, anyway. If her lawyer has a brain, he will coach her not to do that. If he is successful I'll be surprised. The other part of me thinks she doesn't want to be sane because then she will have to look at what is really happening.

Do you watch the Tudors? A great lesson in Karma there!

I really doubt that she is "coachable". Way too much anger when someone pins her down. There are some who just can't keep their yap shut when someone either corrects them or backs them in the corner and I can see her getting backed into the corner as soon as she opens her mouth with one of her many lies.

[shadydaisy]

I really doubt that she is "coachable". Way too much anger when someone pins her down. There are some who just can't keep their yap shut when someone either corrects them or backs them in the corner and I can see her getting backed into the corner as soon as she opens her mouth with one of her many lies.

I don't think she's coach able, either. First of all, she believes everything that comes out of her mouth is golden and that she'll be able to sway everyone over to her side if they listen for a minute. She's cocky and an habitual liar.

[deacon]

I don't think she's coach able, either. First of all, she believes everything that comes out of her mouth is golden and that she'll be able to sway everyone over to her side if they listen for a minute. She's cocky and an habitual liar.

Yep, and the apple didn't fall far from the tree either.:beer:

[sharlock]

Look what I just found guys,

Casey Anthony- who purchased the land?
Category: Movies, TV, Celebrities
Casey Anthony-

Who purchased the land? The land where Casey dumped her precious daughter dead body -----the land where Caylee Marie Anthony remains were found:
William Rivera, NLHF, President
Peter Benevides, NLHF, Benefactor
Never loose hope foundation
These scums also have an affiliation with KFN and convicted felon Dennis M., the 30k boat, they are also funnelling the money to pay for all of Cindy's expenses---mortgage, food, insurance, car payments, hair coloring, gas, everything including her full time but boy Dominic.
http://blogs.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=54234635&blogID=483942997



BB-11 is a myspace blog but this woman has had details many times days before they became public knowledge. This is sure interesting isn't it....

[sharlock]

Seems like Brad C was lying about the out of town benefactor. It makes me angry that all the attorneys involved seem to have no moral or ethical compass. Even that Macaluso guy is being allowed to join the defense team when he has outstanding bar complaints that will most certainly have him disbarred. This is disgraceful.

[DrewBerry]

Oprah Cancels Columbine Memorial Show
http://www.fancast.com/blogs/oprah/oprah-cancels-columbine-memorial-show/?cmpid=FCST_itn0420oprah

Too much focus on the killers at Columbine is Okra's reason. Since Okra is using her good sense this time, maybe if we keep writing in to the O show, she'll do the same with the G & G Comedy Show, another No-No.

The way I see it, it's the same thing ~ but different!

" Shut up..NO, YOU shut up, don't tell me to shut up, you shut up":punch:
CMA>>>CMA>>>>CMA>>>CMA = COVER MY AS**...Cover her a**, Cover his a**............................:rolleyes:

You crack me up, OS! especially your last paragraph with the shut ups and the CMA's!! HA! HA! That is golden!:D
DrewB

[Native Alien]

Look what I just found guys,




BB-11 is a myspace blog but this woman has had details many times days before they became public knowledge. This is sure interesting isn't it....


Does anyone have the actual address of the property because I have seen that posted elsewhere and someone else said it wasn't true that the for sale sign is still up on the property. Never mind I found the parcel number and according to Orange County that parcel of land has not been sold and they are stating that the data on that property was updated on the 18 of April.

http://www.ocpafl.org/pls/webappI/get_parcel_by_pid?sec=13&twp=23&rng=30&sub=1290&blk=00&lot=021&DI_0=on&DI_1=on&DI_2=on&DI_3=on&DI_4=on&DI_5=on&DI_6=on

[Native Alien]

I just saw this morning where George and Cindy are going to appear on Good Morning America tomorrow morning.

[eatcupcakes]

I just saw this morning where George and Cindy are going to appear on Good Morning America tomorrow morning.


For people who were upset to give a depo they must be recovered because they are sure able to get out there now and tell their "Stories". This is a 5 Ring Circus.

[eatcupcakes]

Hmmm, do we wonder why? I get the strong feeling that they are going to defend Casey and there will be a very bad backlash after that one. But there is still a small percentage of the world that may buy the product. 10 percent of ten million people is... do the math.

Okay let's sit and suffer through the long list of qualities Casey has employed through out her life. Let's hear it for Casey Anthony, her motherhood, her huge heart, her kindness, her integrity as a daughter and an upstanding member of society! Forget about Caylee, she's gone. I can't take it!

RIP Caylee. You are the world and the spokes-angel for the children baby. :rose:


Ofcourse that is what they are going to do. Why else be on the show. Their mission is to save Casey, the heck with Caylee, she is dead they can't bring her back. I dispise this whole family. :flamemad:

[DrewBerry]

For people who were upset to give a depo they must be recovered because they are sure able to get out there now and tell their "Stories". This is a 5 Ring Circus.

ITA, Cupcakes. They are digging themselves in deeper each time they go on these talk shows. Too distraught to give depos, but not distraught enough to travel and participate in a 5 ring circus! I still want to know who is paying for all their travel expenses. I heard yesterday that Oprah refuses to pay the ANTs for anything. I hope Oprah has sense enough to refrain from treating them gently. Where's that wrist-kissing brother Lee been lately anyway? :flamemad:
DrewB

[Amy]

ITA, Cupcakes. They are digging themselves in deeper each time they go on these talk shows. Too distraught to give depos, but not distraught enough to travel and participate in a 5 ring circus! I still want to know who is paying for all their travel expenses. I heard yesterday that Oprah refuses to pay the ANTs for anything. I hope Oprah has sense enough to refrain from treating them gently. Where's that wrist-kissing brother Lee been lately anyway? :flamemad:
DrewB

She might refuse to pay them anything, but I'm betting her production company is paying the airlines, the hotel, and will pay the tab on any receipts they give to them for eateries, nightclubs, whatever it is they want to do wherever it is she films from.'

And, if it's NYC, and she is taping their show pretty darn quick, they might be hopping on over to HER studios from GMA--and THAT network would be picking up the tab. OR, maybe the 2 networks (for GMA and for Oprah) will be sharing the tab.

Doncha know, flying is soothing and relaxing for some folks, up in the sky, pretty clouds, just sit back and relax. Start w/the toes, then the legs.....etc etc etc. Heck, if the flight is long enough, they may relax enough to sleep!!!! lol

[eatcupcakes]

ITA, Cupcakes. They are digging themselves in deeper each time they go on these talk shows. Too distraught to give depos, but not distraught enough to travel and participate in a 5 ring circus! I still want to know who is paying for all their travel expenses. I heard yesterday that Oprah refuses to pay the ANTs for anything. I hope Oprah has sense enough to refrain from treating them gently. Where's that wrist-kissing brother Lee been lately anyway? :flamemad:

DrewB

I don't believe she pays a fee but she does pay for travel expenses, hotel, meals, etc. I am sure they will have a great time on Oprah or Harpo or whatever Company she is.

[eatcupcakes]

ITA, Cupcakes. They are digging themselves in deeper each time they go on these talk shows. Too distraught to give depos, but not distraught enough to travel and participate in a 5 ring circus! I still want to know who is paying for all their travel expenses. I heard yesterday that Oprah refuses to pay the ANTs for anything. I hope Oprah has sense enough to refrain from treating them gently. Where's that wrist-kissing brother Lee been lately anyway? :flamemad:
DrewB

Oh yeah the Wrist Kissing Brother, as you put it, LOL. He
is keeping his promise to CME, whatever that is. Maybe he is out there looking for the real Zannie!!! What ya think. :)

[One2Snoop]

Kronk Objects To Baez's Phone Records Subpoena
Protective Order Calls Phone Records Subpoena 'Overboard, Harassment'

POSTED: 2:41 pm EDT April 20, 2009
UPDATED: 5:18 pm EDT April 20, 2009

ORLANDO, Fla. -- Roy Kronk is asking Monday for a protective order so he does not have to turn over certain phone records to Casey Anthony's defense team.

In new court papers obtained by WESH 2, Kronk said Jose Baez's recent application to subpoena phone records is "overbroad, and constitutes harassment."

Kronk is the meter reader who discovered the remains of slain toddler Caylee Anthony last December.

His lawyer said Kronk would not be opposed to a limited subpoena to determine if he ever had contact with Casey Anthony, her family or the Anthony's private investigators.

Kronk's lawyers said the way Baez has the subpoena now, it would give him the ability to invade Kronk's privacy. They're asking for a hearing from Judge Stan Strickland.

Casey Anthony is in the Orange County Jail, charged with first-degree murder in the death of her daughter, Caylee.

In other news in the case, lawyers for Zenaida Gonzalez are sending information to the Oprah Winfrey show concerning contradictions in the Anthonys' recent videotaped depositions.

Gonzalez is suing Casey Anthony, claiming her reputation was destroyed when Casey Anthony named her as the nanny who kidnapped Caylee.

"The Anthonys in our deposition as opposed to their previous statements to the police were apples and oranges," Morgan said.

Their lawyer so far has not responded to questions about why George and Cindy Anthony have agreed to do a nationally televised interview with Winfrey next month. Gonzalez's attorney John Morgan said Casey Anthony's parents want to plant reasonable doubt in the minds of potential jurors in advance of their daughter's upcoming death penalty trial.

"We want to make sure the Oprah people aren't manipulated by what I call the Anthony alibi tour," Morgan said.

http://www.wesh.com/news/19231137/detail.html

[One2Snoop]

Does anyone have the actual address of the property because I have seen that posted elsewhere and someone else said it wasn't true that the for sale sign is still up on the property. Never mind I found the parcel number and according to Orange County that parcel of land has not been sold and they are stating that the data on that property was updated on the 18 of April.

http://www.ocpafl.org/pls/webappI/get_parcel_by_pid?sec=13&twp=23&rng=30&sub=1290&blk=00&lot=021&DI_0=on&DI_1=on&DI_2=on&DI_3=on&DI_4=on&DI_5=on&DI_6=on

Hi Native :seeya:

I posted an article just the other day that said the property had not been sold. Let me find it and I'll bump it for you.

[One2Snoop]

Bump for Native.....


Gonzalez Attorneys Prepare For Anthonys On Oprah
No Sale Pending For Caylee Memorial Land

POSTED: 4:45 pm EDT April 17, 2009
UPDATED: 6:38 pm EDT April 17, 2009

ORLANDO, Fla. -- snip....

Meanwhile, there is no sale pending on the land where slain toddler's Caylee Anthony's remains were found, WESH 2 News confirmed Friday.

In the online listing for the property, three photos show no evidence that a memorial with hundreds of stuffed animals still sits on that property.

The property is listed for $89,900.

http://www.wesh.com/news/19211221/detail.html

[One2Snoop]

Meter Reader Refuses Records Request
Phone Records Request Part Of Motion Filed By Baez

POSTED: Monday, April 20, 2009
UPDATED: 11:55 am EDT April 21, 2009

The meter reader who discovered Caylee Anthony's remains is refusing to turn over his cell phone records to Casey Anthony's defense team.

Earlier this month, defense attorney Jose Baez filed a motion requesting the cell phone records of several witnesses in the case -- including those of Roy Kronk.

Kronk found Caylee's remains in a wooded area off Suburban Drive on Dec. 11.

Anthony is being held at the Orange County jail. She is charged with murder in the death of her daughter, Caylee, who was 2 years old at the time of her disappearance.

Kronk's attorney, David Evans, filed a motion on Monday, which objects to the phone record request, saying it amounts to an invasion of privacy and harassment.

Evans said he and Kronk would not object to a "reasonable" subpoena: one that limits the amount of information turned over to Baez. The existing request calls for all of Kronk's phone records – including cell phone pings and text messages with times and locations.

According to Evans, Kronk does not want the phone numbers of his friends and family to be fodder for the defense team and the millions of other people following the case throughout the country.

Monday night, Beaz said other people do not get to decide what is important to his case. :no:

http://www.clickorlando.com/news/19232621/detail.html#-

[One2Snoop]

Casey Anthony: George, Cindy to sit for "Early Show" interview
posted by halboedeker on Apr 21, 2009 10:47:53 AM

Step aside, Oprah Winfrey. CBS will have the first interview with George and Cindy Anthony since granddaughter Caylee's remains were found. Winfrey's people had promoted that she would have that first interview next month.

Don't George and Cindy know it's not nice to cross Oprah?

CBS' "Early Show" will interview the Anthonys over two shows this week.

Maggie Rodriguez will conduct the interview Wednesday and Thursday in the show's New York studio.

And the topics? CBS said, "Rodriguez will talk to the Anthonys about the investigation into their granddaughter's death, including the timeline of events leading up to the arrest of their daughter, Casey, for the crime. The Anthonys also will talk about how their daughter is handling the prosecution's recent decision to seek the death penalty in their case against her."

Which raises a question: How do George and Cindy know if they haven't visited Casey?

"The Early Show" airs at 7 a.m. weekdays on WKMG-Channel 6.

http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2009/04/casey-anthony-george-cindy-to-sit-for-early-show-interview.html

[One2Snoop]

Orange meter reader balks at Casey Anthony defense request

Sarah Lundy | Sentinel Staff Writer
April 21, 2009

The Orange County meter reader who found the remains of Caylee Anthony doesn't want to turn over his cell-phone records to Casey Anthony's defense team, according to documents filed in court Monday.

Roy Kronk's attorney, David Evans, wrote in the filing that Anthony's request for all cell-phone records was too broad and was not "reasonably calculated" to lead to information related to the case. The defense's request "constitutes harassment of Mr. Kronk and a substantial invasion of his privacy," Evans wrote.

Casey Anthony, 23, is charged with first-degree murder in the death last year of Caylee, her daughter. In December, the toddler's remains were found by Kronk in woods less than a mile from the Anthony home.

Kronk isn't opposed to providing information about whether he had any communication with Anthony, her family, private investigators or other witnesses — records show he has not had any, Evans wrote.

The judge has not ruled on the motion.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/orl-casey-anthony-meter-reader-042109,0,5831750.story

[shadydaisy]

I have no idea what's on Kronk's phone that he is so concerned about but it makes an interesting case for why people do not want to involve themselves with crimes, either by being a witness, or someone like Kronk. He tried to do the right thing, several times, and then gets his life dragged out in the open. He's not the one changed with murder, just calling in something he saw that was suspicious. And then there's the mysterious Zanny.... Throw enough mud around and I guess some may stick elsewhere. I guess C&G will set us straight when they go on their Anthony Alibi Tour (I love that saying from Morgan).

[One2Snoop]

I have no idea what's on Kronk's phone that he is so concerned about but it makes an interesting case for why people do not want to involve themselves with crimes, either by being a witness, or someone like Kronk. He tried to do the right thing, several times, and then gets his life dragged out in the open. He's not the one changed with murder, just calling in something he saw that was suspicious. And then there's the mysterious Zanny.... Throw enough mud around and I guess some may stick elsewhere. I guess C&G will set us straight when they go on their Anthony Alibi Tour (I love that saying from Morgan).

Actually I agree with him for not wanting to turn the phone records over. Look at what happened to everyone else and their private info - it's all over the WWW now. He's only trying to protect the innocent (from those websleuth crazies) IMO...

According to Evans, Kronk does not want the phone numbers of his friends and family to be fodder for the defense team and the millions of other people following the case throughout the country.

[lorettalockhorn]

ITA. Didn't that "hawt" (forgot his name) guy say that the defense has a responsibility to the client, to come up with a plea if the DP is on the table?

What will the plea be? I lean toward, Cindy made her flip out. :shrug:

Ooh would that be cufflink wearing William Shaeffer? :tongue: The one who says Baez is not qualified to defend The Liar? Love him!

Still don't think that the defense will claim that Cindy made Casey flip out; that would be an admission. But maybe they'll say that Cindy made ZFG flip out. I mean why else would this loving and generous ten kidnap and murder Caylee?

[lorettalockhorn]

Hey, Loretta. ITA the jury's going to hate all the ANTS. There is no way Caylee's death was accidental no matter what the scenario. I also don't believe the Liar impulsively killed her daughter. The Liar thought of Caylee as disposable object. Just like Scott Peterson. I think the Liar planned it and had her "kidnapping story" ready to go 31 days later when Cindy caught up with her. I also think that Liar never thought Caylee's little body would ever be found (also like SP). I think she believed "no body, no crime."
I, too, have wondered how Cindy spelled Zanny's (sp?) name in her "address book." Does anyone know if Cindy's "address/phone book" been confiscated?
Since Cindy claims she had "lots of phone numbers" for the nanny. :flamemad:
DrewB

Hope there's been a subpoena or search warrant issued for the magic address book! Also wondering what Zanny's dog's name is. Obviously Caylee didn't refer to the pooch as Zanny's dog!

[lorettalockhorn]

Seems like Brad C was lying about the out of town benefactor. It makes me angry that all the attorneys involved seem to have no moral or ethical compass. Even that Macaluso guy is being allowed to join the defense team when he has outstanding bar complaints that will most certainly have him disbarred. This is disgraceful.

Conway lying? Must be contagious from being around the Ants. When NLH hitched their wagon to the G&C and KF/Dennis Milstead I'm afraid I lost hope. Not sure how often the OC appraiser updates, but so far Thomas Hendricks is still the owner of the property.

PS Thanks for the lowdown.

[lorettalockhorn]

I have no idea what's on Kronk's phone that he is so concerned about but it makes an interesting case for why people do not want to involve themselves with crimes, either by being a witness, or someone like Kronk. He tried to do the right thing, several times, and then gets his life dragged out in the open. He's not the one changed with murder, just calling in something he saw that was suspicious. And then there's the mysterious Zanny.... Throw enough mud around and I guess some may stick elsewhere. I guess C&G will set us straight when they go on their Anthony Alibi Tour (I love that saying from Morgan).

He doesn't want the Daisy Chain exposed!!!!!

http://i36.tinypic.com/35ddmbr.jpghttp://i36.tinypic.com/35ddmbr.jpghttp://i36.tinypic.com/35ddmbr.jpghttp://i36.tinypic.com/35ddmbr.jpghttp://i36.tinypic.com/35ddmbr.jpghttp://i36.tinypic.com/35ddmbr.jpg

Love Morgan's term The Alibi Tour!

[shadydaisy]

Actually I agree with him for not wanting to turn the phone records over. Look at what happened to everyone else and their private info - it's all over the WWW now. He's only trying to protect the innocent (from those websleuth crazies) IMO...



I don't blame him either. Just saying that's why no one wants to come forward; you have to spend so much time and trouble defending yourself.

Nawny - I actually like doing laundry. I'll do the laundry if you cook dinner.

[Native Alien]

That laundry thing must be contagious. It is what I am doing too.

I believe that Maggie is to soft to do any hardline questioning of the A's so the interview is likely to be a wash other than more cannon fodder for the prosecution to use against them all in court.

[Amy]

Casey Anthony: George, Cindy to sit for "Early Show" interview
posted by halboedeker on Apr 21, 2009 10:47:53 AM

Step aside, Oprah Winfrey. CBS will have the first interview with George and Cindy Anthony since granddaughter Caylee's remains were found. Winfrey's people had promoted that she would have that first interview next month.

Don't George and Cindy know it's not nice to cross Oprah?

CBS' "Early Show" will interview the Anthonys over two shows this week.

Maggie Rodriguez will conduct the interview Wednesday and Thursday in the show's New York studio.

And the topics? CBS said, "Rodriguez will talk to the Anthonys about the investigation into their granddaughter's death, including the timeline of events leading up to the arrest of their daughter, Casey, for the crime. The Anthonys also will talk about how their daughter is handling the prosecution's recent decision to seek the death penalty in their case against her."

Which raises a question: How do George and Cindy know if they haven't visited Casey?

"The Early Show" airs at 7 a.m. weekdays on WKMG-Channel 6.

http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2009/04/casey-anthony-george-cindy-to-sit-for-early-show-interview.html

Aren't they to be on GMA tomorrow (or was that today--working nights and don't even know what day it is!!!) That isn't CBS, is it? Or, are they going to be on both networks the same day? Guess having to face the depo gave them courage and stamina to make the rounds?

I guess they can make a guess @ how Casey is handling the DP back on the table based on their 22+ years of knowing her? :D Or maybe Baez has been keeping them up, or maybe Baez talks w/Conway to let him know, and Conway tells the A's. It'll all be a bunch of BS, anyway they do it. Oh, I know!!!! They saw the interview w/Baez on the issue just like the rest of us!!! They'll go by that!!!!:biggrin:

[Amy]

Actually I agree with him for not wanting to turn the phone records over. Look at what happened to everyone else and their private info - it's all over the WWW now. He's only trying to protect the innocent (from those websleuth crazies) IMO...



I agree, too. Give the info for any numbers related to the case, but absolutely no other numbers, not to his family, to his friends, to his cc company, or any other calls he makes. Only if there is a number that goes to the PI's, the attorneys (not his) and the A's. The attorneys need to get a life, and just ask for what is pertinent.

[Native Alien]

Okay so they are doing ABC and CBS and Oprah....

Geeze talk about making the rounds.

[deacon]

Okay so they are doing ABC and CBS and Oprah....

Geeze talk about making the rounds.

Defense by media.:shrug:

[browneyes106]

Hope there's been a subpoena or search warrant issued for the magic address book! Also wondering what Zanny's dog's name is. Obviously Caylee didn't refer to the pooch as Zanny's dog!

I have wondering about the "dog's" name.

[browneyes106]

Yeah, exactly! They claim the liar is being convicted by the media so I suppose they are rationalizing that they can go defend her via the media. These folks have a table and chairs mentality. Not deep thinkers. IMO

Good point the Ants are sort of contradicting themselves. Maybe they are doing interviews so Casey can get more money in her jail account.

[JLette]

Yes, agree on Kronk. They are crossing the line asking for his personal information. Isn't there anyone exempt from their blame game?

This case is beyond the scope of my understanding. I cant help but fault the media for all this crap. They are making lots of money on the Anthonys. It's almost like exploiting mentally challenged individuals. It's sinister! I am breathless over the fact that the media has become almost ghoulish over this little girl's death. And if you ask me, I think Oprah is lending herself to this atrocity and might get herself involved with a trial she isn't prepared to testify at. Hey, she may even get her cell phone records splattered across our living rooms. Yep, she might be anointed by the Anthony clan. :punch:

She should move over and give someone else a chance to have a talk show anyway. :punch: She's one of the richest women in the world. Move over Oprah! You're going to be all washed up after this show! IMO

OMG i could not BELIEVE that OPRAH FREAKIN WINFREY of all people was going to bring these people on her show. i was meaning to watch it too but i completely forgot when it was on and everything, i don't understand her motive, is she bringing them on because she believes them or because she wants to corner them????

[joekuhl79]

From CBS Early Show website:
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/04/21/earlyshow/ourstories/main4959468.shtml


Caylee's Grandparents To Speak Out

CBS) The grandparents of Caylee Anthony, the Florida tot whose mother is accused of her murder, will appear Wednesday and Thursday in an exclusive two-part interview on The Early Show. It is their first interview since their granddaughter's body was found.

George and Cindy Anthony will talk with co-anchor Maggie Rodriguez on April 22 and 23, about the investigation into their granddaughter's death, and the timeline of events leading up to the arrest of their daughter, Casey, for the crime. The Anthonys also will talk about how their daughter is handling the prosecution's recent decision to seek the death penalty in her case.

Casey Anthony, 23, faces charges of first-degree murder in Florida.

Anthony has claimed that she left her 2-year-old daughter with a baby sitter last June and that she was kidnapped, though she didn't report Caylee missing for another month.

Cindy Anthony initially made the report to authorities that she hadn't seen Caylee for a month and that her daughter's car smelled like death.

Casey Anthony was arrested in October, as hundreds of volunteers searched for some trace of little Caylee.

A utility worker finally found Caylee's body in December in the woods near where she lived with her mother and grandparents.

Casey Anthony's trial is tentatively set for October.


Duh! Liar was arrested in July the DAY AFTER the report was made!

What a fluff piece this is going to be!

[JLette]

From CBS Early Show website:
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/04/21/earlyshow/ourstories/main4959468.shtml


Caylee's Grandparents To Speak Out

CBS) The grandparents of Caylee Anthony, the Florida tot whose mother is accused of her murder, will appear Wednesday and Thursday in an exclusive two-part interview on The Early Show. It is their first interview since their granddaughter's body was found.

George and Cindy Anthony will talk with co-anchor Maggie Rodriguez on April 22 and 23, about the investigation into their granddaughter's death, and the timeline of events leading up to the arrest of their daughter, Casey, for the crime. The Anthonys also will talk about how their daughter is handling the prosecution's recent decision to seek the death penalty in her case.

Casey Anthony, 23, faces charges of first-degree murder in Florida.

Anthony has claimed that she left her 2-year-old daughter with a baby sitter last June and that she was kidnapped, though she didn't report Caylee missing for another month.

Cindy Anthony initially made the report to authorities that she hadn't seen Caylee for a month and that her daughter's car smelled like death.

Casey Anthony was arrested in October, as hundreds of volunteers searched for some trace of little Caylee.

A utility worker finally found Caylee's body in December in the woods near where she lived with her mother and grandparents.

Casey Anthony's trial is tentatively set for October.


Duh! Liar was arrested in July the DAY AFTER the report was made!

What a fluff piece this is going to be!

she was actually arrested multiple times, i think the last time may have been in october

[Amy]

Yes, agree on Kronk. They are crossing the line asking for his personal information. Isn't there anyone exempt from their blame game?

This case is beyond the scope of my understanding. I cant help but fault the media for all this crap. They are making lots of money on the Anthonys. It's almost like exploiting mentally challenged individuals. It's sinister! I am breathless over the fact that the media has become almost ghoulish over this little girl's death. And if you ask me, I think Oprah is lending herself to this atrocity and might get herself involved with a trial she isn't prepared to testify at. Hey, she may even get her cell phone records splattered across our living rooms. Yep, she might be anointed by the Anthony clan. :punch:

She should move over and give someone else a chance to have a talk show anyway. :punch: She's one of the richest women in the world. Move over Oprah! You're going to be all washed up after this show! IMO

And I also think the Sunshine Law can hold some of the blame (or the legislators who passed the bill.) I just can't believe all the details of the investigation that can be released to the public. And, the public sure eats it up!!! (Me, too :chicken:) If I ever get into trouble in FL, I'm sure hoping it's not a high profile case. I would imagine that in most cases, there is little to no activity on the Sunshine Law issue. Wonder if the local press in the unheard-of cases (locally known only) takes the advantage to get all this kind of information?

[Amy]

My guess is due to May being sweeps=ratings. Another board is stating C will be speaking in Conneticut mid May at a 2 day conference. Topic is something to the effect of Homicide and families affected. If true i wonder if it's a paid engagement. It was supposedly in one of the Fla. papers and confirmed by their lawyer. That C just cant shut up can she. MOO

I can't believe there is any legitimate organization--whether it is a missing child/person group, a woman's group, whatever---that would even CONSIDER having a loose cannon speak @ their conference. I wonder if KFN or HLN (whatever the other organization is) shopped her around, and the people running the conference haven't seen nor heard her?

I wouldn't be going, even for the curious streak in me. I'd be afraid she might make eye contact w/me, and I'd be thrown under some bus somewhere, or dire things would start happening to me and my loved ones!!!

[Amy]

From CBS Early Show website:
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/04/21/earlyshow/ourstories/main4959468.shtml


Caylee's Grandparents To Speak Out

CBS) The grandparents of Caylee Anthony, the Florida tot whose mother is accused of her murder, will appear Wednesday and Thursday in an exclusive two-part interview on The Early Show. It is their first interview since their granddaughter's body was found.

George and Cindy Anthony will talk with co-anchor Maggie Rodriguez on April 22 and 23, about the investigation into their granddaughter's death, and the timeline of events leading up to the arrest of their daughter, Casey, for the crime. The Anthonys also will talk about how their daughter is handling the prosecution's recent decision to seek the death penalty in her case.

Casey Anthony, 23, faces charges of first-degree murder in Florida.

Anthony has claimed that she left her 2-year-old daughter with a baby sitter last June and that she was kidnapped, though she didn't report Caylee missing for another month.

Cindy Anthony initially made the report to authorities that she hadn't seen Caylee for a month and that her daughter's car smelled like death.

Casey Anthony was arrested in October, as hundreds of volunteers searched for some trace of little Caylee.

A utility worker finally found Caylee's body in December in the woods near where she lived with her mother and grandparents.

Casey Anthony's trial is tentatively set for October.


Duh! Liar was arrested in July the DAY AFTER the report was made!

What a fluff piece this is going to be!


That was my first tho't. But, it says when she was arrested for THIS CRIME (the murder of Caylee.) I guess there is a little timeline--like when they and KFN got together--what day George started driving a billboard with a disconnected phone number on it. And, when the protesters arrived, and which day what conflict occured, and which times police were called, and how often they were on the news. Wonder if they will outline the actual tracking of Caylee and her abductors in the 9 places George says they tracked her to---leaving just hours before the PI got there!!!! :chicken:

[browneyes106]

Here's the real Zani hanging out with her girlshttp://i40.tinypic.com/rkygib.jpg.......from what I remember, her dog's name is Tanner http://i44.tinypic.com/34pb47n.jpg

If Caylee, who could barely speak, told her about Zani's dog ~ there must be a Zani................Right?

:rolleyes:

Lol I guess those two girls must be Raquel and Jennifer the roommates Casey talked about. That picture must have been taken before Raquel went to work at TGIFridays.

[browneyes106]

OH NO! :eek: Please tell me she had the free texting feature on her cell phones!!!! If not, her phone bill had to be in the thousands, per month. Thank God and LE she's gone to jail! I'd have arrested her for that alone!

Just read a news clip last week about a 12 year old girl who text-ed so much (even while in class) that her parents received a phone bill last month to the tune of $1400. Her father busted the phone with a hammer.

I read about that hammer cell phone story. I remember reading somewhere that Casey didn't have free or unlimited texting on her cell. I remember she tried to use Amy's money to pay a cell bill that was over $400.

[browneyes106]

I can't believe there is any legitimate organization--whether it is a missing child/person group, a woman's group, whatever---that would even CONSIDER having a loose cannon speak @ their conference. I wonder if KFN or HLN (whatever the other organization is) shopped her around, and the people running the conference haven't seen nor heard her?

I wouldn't be going, even for the curious streak in me. I'd be afraid she might make eye contact w/me, and I'd be thrown under some bus somewhere, or dire things would start happening to me and my loved ones!!!

I can't believe it either. I hope some of the people at the conference boo the Ant's.

[One2Snoop]

1 down and how many ??? to go! :beer:

Casey Anthony: Oprah Winfrey drops interview with George, Cindy
posted by halboedeker on Apr 21, 2009 6:03:55 PM


You won't see George and Cindy Anthony on "The Oprah Winfrey Show."

"Based on the Anthonys' decision to appear on other programs, we have decided not to move forward with their interview on 'The Oprah Winfrey Show' at this time," an Oprah spokesman told me this afternoon.

The Anthonys will appear on CBS' "Early Show" tomorrow morning.

http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2009/04/oprah-winfrey-drops-interview-with-george-cindy-anthony.html

[One2Snoop]

Legal Analyst: Casey's Attorney Made Blunder

Posted: 5:22 pm EDT April 21, 2009Updated: 5:54 pm EDT April 21, 2009
ORLANDO, Fla. -- There are no secrets in the case against Casey Anthony. If Casey Anthony's lawyer, Jose Baez, wanted to keep secret his attempt to get phone records from key people in the case, WFTV's legal expert says he went about it the wrong way.

SHEAFFER INTERVIEW: Analysis Of Baez Motion
http://www.wftv.com/video/19243196/detail.html

There will be at least one hearing because at least two of the 12 witnesses Baez wants to track through unlimited cell phone records are fighting it and most of the others probably will. Meter reader Roy Kronk and Casey's friend Amy Huizenga say Baez wants way too much.

Baez wants unlimited cell phone records for 12 prosecution witnesses. Two of them, Kronk and Huizenga, are fighting it as an invasion of privacy.

"Let's use a scalpel to get at the problem and not a meat cleaver to get at the problem," said Kronk's attorney, David Evans (full interview).

Defense attorney Jose Baez tried to keep his strategy secret, but after Circuit Judge Stan Strickland refused to meet secretly to discuss sending secret subpoenas to witnesses, WFTV legal analyst Bill Sheaffer said Baez filed an unnecessary court motion that will bring unwanted attention.

"Asking the court's permission to do something you have permission to do to begin with," Sheaffer explained (watch interview).

Sheaffer said Baez could've identified the witnesses' cell phone providers during depositions and then subpoenaed the companies' records directly. Instead, he's asked the judge's permission.

"That will force Baez to tell the court what relevance these phone records may have to the defense," Sheaffer explained.

That includes if he's asked for more witnesses' records than he really wants as a way to try to cover his tracks. Baez is also asking for the unlimited, detailed cell phone records for Casey's parents and her brother. Her parents' lawyer says they'll hand them over, but they have no idea why Casey would want them.


http://www.wftv.com/news/19243193/detail.html#-

[JLette]

1 down and how many ??? to go! :beer:

Casey Anthony: Oprah Winfrey drops interview with George, Cindy
posted by halboedeker on Apr 21, 2009 6:03:55 PM


You won't see George and Cindy Anthony on "The Oprah Winfrey Show."

"Based on the Anthonys' decision to appear on other programs, we have decided not to move forward with their interview on 'The Oprah Winfrey Show' at this time," an Oprah spokesman told me this afternoon.

The Anthonys will appear on CBS' "Early Show" tomorrow morning.

http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2009/04/oprah-winfrey-drops-interview-with-george-cindy-anthony.html

yessss.....i had way more faith in Oprah than that lol didn't want to believe that she would sink that low

[lorettalockhorn]

1 down and how many ??? to go! :beer:

Casey Anthony: Oprah Winfrey drops interview with George, Cindy
posted by halboedeker on Apr 21, 2009 6:03:55 PM


You won't see George and Cindy Anthony on "The Oprah Winfrey Show."

"Based on the Anthonys' decision to appear on other programs, we have decided not to move forward with their interview on 'The Oprah Winfrey Show' at this time," an Oprah spokesman told me this afternoon.

The Anthonys will appear on CBS' "Early Show" tomorrow morning.

http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2009/04/oprah-winfrey-drops-interview-with-george-cindy-anthony.html

Prolly a dumb question, but were G&C on GMA this morning? Was that hunky dory with O since it was her network? Or is she honked off that CBS is getting hold of G&C before her? Why didn't she just move up the interview date? Or has she just decided that she doesn't want the lying liars on her couch?

Lord help me. Why do I even care?!

[Native Alien]

Prolly a dumb question, but were G&C on GMA this morning? Was that hunky dory with O since it was her network? Or is she honked off that CBS is getting hold of G&C before her? Why didn't she just move up the interview date? Or has she just decided that she doesn't want the lying liars on her couch?

Lord help me. Why do I even care?!

No, GMA is tomorrow.

[lorettalockhorn]

No, GMA is tomorrow.

Thanks NA! I went to their site and all I found interesting was a story about some woman who had a commitment ceremony with the Eiffel Tower. :eek:

[eatcupcakes]

My guess is due to May being sweeps=ratings. Another board is stating C will be speaking in Conneticut mid May at a 2 day conference. Topic is something to the effect of Homicide and families affected. If true i wonder if it's a paid engagement. It was supposedly in one of the Fla. papers and confirmed by their lawyer. That C just cant shut up can she. MOO

What is next a Reality Show, Cindy, George Plus the Liar.

[One2Snoop]

What is next a Reality Show, Cindy, George Plus the Liar.

:eek: :punch: http://i42.tinypic.com/10nvv5c.gif

[SuzDuJour]

Well... I do think it would be more interesting if C&G went on Nancy Grace...UNLEASH THE LAWYERS...heeee!

[One2Snoop]

Well... I do think it would be more interesting if C&G went on Nancy Grace...UNLEASH THE LAWYERS...heeee!

LOL, now that I would watch!

(eatcupcakes - I was just teasing you! :beer: )

[JLette]

I just told poppa Oprah cancelled the Anthony interview. He burst out laughing and said, "I told ya it was gonna be along month! These people are nuts! , she'd do right to stay away from them.

Earlier we were talking about this case and he said, "Do you understand that Casey is just a pretty little dolt? She's stupid. Why do you insist that she planned or intended to get even with Cindy? I don't believe she thought that far ahead. She wanted to go party and Caylee was in her way. She lived in the moment. She chloroformed the child and went to party Period! The kid died and she was not going to be bothered dealing with it because she was busy doing what she wanted to do at the time. Even after death Caylee was still in the way. She moved her body in the nic of time and that's that. How it affected Cindy is an aside to this entire thing." Quote poppa.

So I ask him, "What now?" He said, "Now you are going to see a very long month while Cindy wears Caylee's death like some kind of a badge of honor, or a free ticket to say and do what ever she wants because her grandchild was murdered and that's big! She insists that's her right and her privilege to be angry. I suspect she was very mean to Casey at home and Casey's life was tumultuous. I believe what Casey was doing was protesting. Trust me it's going to be a long month with these TV shows. They had to come back and do something outrageous because they missed being in the news. They're all in love with their own reflections"

So I asked, "But did she not love her child at all?"

Poppa said, "Love? What do you see in that family that resembles love?"

There ya have it from poppa. :cuss:

well poppa sounds like a smart guy to me :beer:

[lorettalockhorn]

What is next a Reality Show, Cindy, George Plus the Liar.

HAHAHA G&C don't do reality. Can you imagine a camera in their house 24/7? Shut up! No, YOU shut up!!

[One2Snoop]

Scooped Oprah cancels appearance by George, Cindy Anthony

Hal Boedeker | Sentinel Staff Writer
6:29 PM EDT, April 21, 2009

The message is clear: Don't scoop Oprah after she gives you the first invite. :no:

A spokeswoman for "The Oprah Winfrey Show" told the Orlando Sentinel that George and Cindy Anthony, parents of indicted daughter Casey Anthony, will not appear on her show.

You won't see George and Cindy Anthony on "The Oprah Winfrey Show."

"Based on the Anthonys' decision to appear on other programs, we have decided not to move forward with their interview on 'The Oprah Winfrey Show' at this time," the spokesman said this afternoon.

Why? Because after it was announced that the Anthonys would be on Oprah, George and Cindy accepted an invitation to appear on CBS' "Early Show" tomorrow morning.

It's a public relations setback for the Anthonys, who have embarked on something of a media tour in the wake of a decision by State Attorney Lawson Lamar to seek the death penalty against Casey. She is charged with the first-degree murder of her daughter, Caylee Marie.

Meanwhile, George and Cindy are adding up appearances.

They are billed as keynote speakers at the Melanie Ilene Rieger Memorial Conference next month in Connecticut.

Rieger was a college student who was murdered by her boyfriend in 1994. The Web site for the meeting says, "The conference was established in her memory with the hope that others would avoid such tragedy." The conference is presented by the Melanie Ilene Rieger Memorial Foundation and the Connecticut Department of Correction.

The Anthonys are scheduled to speak at 4:30 p.m. May 13 at the two-day conference in Cheshire, Conn.

Their session is titled as "Under Siege: A Homicide Survivor's Story." The schedule offers no more details about what the title means.

Brad Conway, attorney for George and Cindy, confirmed to the Sentinel that Cindy will be speaking.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/orl-bk-casey-anthony-oprah-cancel-042109,0,3151493.story

[lorettalockhorn]

>>Rieger was a college student who was murdered by her boyfriend in 1994. The Web site for the meeting says, "The conference was established in her memory with the hope that others would avoid such tragedy."

Well. Thanks in part to Cindy Marie Anthony and her parenting skills Caylee Marie Anthony will avoid such tragedy.

Wonder what lengths Rieger's family went to to assure justice for Melanie Ilene Rieger?

RIP

[One2Snoop]

The 13th Annual Melanie Ilene Rieger Memorial Conference: May 13-14, 2009

THEME: "Surviving Victimization: Transforming Victimization Into Advocacy"
"HATE CRIMES: SCHOOLS & COMMUNITIES AT RISK"
May 13-14, 2009
Department of Correction
Maloney Center for Training & Staff Development
245 Jarvis Street, Cheshire, CT


2009 REGISTRATION IS NOW OPEN ONLINE
Click on the Agenda tab for the program and the Registration tab to register online

Among scheduled speakers:

* Mildred Muhammed, the DC Sniper’s wife and founder of After The Trauma Inc
* Christine McFadden, who returns to the conference to bring an inspirational and emotional message of surviving the violent murders of her 4 children: Melanie, Stanley, Stuart & Michelle, and severe depression to her marriage to Gerald Corman, a Merced family law judge & the birth of their twin daughters Nicole & Claire>
* Maxine Russell, "Dancing In The Rain", dedicated to the Russell & Daniel Pearl families’ goal of diminishing hatred which took her son Darren’s life in China
* Marc Klaas, President of the Klaas Kids Foundation discussing "Human Trafficking"
* many more...


A panel will be presented comprised of distinguished professionals moderated by WVIT Channel 30’s Tom Monahan.

Projected Audience: social workers, educators & students, crime victims, advocates and those in correction, law enforcement and criminal justice.

FOR INFORMATION: please call Dr. Sam Rieger at (203) 756-8080 or e-mail: SRIEGER243@att.net

REGISTRATION FORMS: Have been mailed.
**If you are on our mailing list, it is not necessary for you to contact us**

CEU’s and CEC’s will be awarded

Click here for information and nomination form for the 2009 Connecticut Crime Victim Assistance Award.

http://www.melanieriegerconference.com/

Are the Anthony's still on friendly terms with Marc Klass?

[lorettalockhorn]

Are the Anthony's still on friendly terms with Marc Klass?

Magic Eightball says "No." But then again, Cindy's pretty mercurial.

GRACE: I want to go to a special guest joining us tonight, Marc Klaas. You all know Marc, child advocate, the founder of Klaas Kids Foundation. Not only that, a crime victim himself, after the kidnap and murder of his precious girl, Polly.

You know, Marc Klaas, I want to ask you in a different vein tonight. We know that Jesse Grund, who is accused of being the bio dad, his family is with us tonight. Immediately, just like you did, Marc, said, take my polygraph, I insist, because then you can start -- stop wasting time on me and then go find my daughter. Find Caylee. Find whomever the subject may be.

Tell me about your experience, Marc. Explain why it is so important that, for instance, we have been told by Leonard Padilla that the Anthonys refuse to take a polygraph. Why is it so critical, in your experience, Marc Klaas, that they do that?

MARC KLAAS, FOUNDER, BEYONDMISSING.COM, FATHER OF MURDER VICTIM POLLY KLAAS: First of all, Nancy, the clock of fear starts ticking the moment you realize that your child is gone, and you have no idea where that child is.

You then are working against the clock, realizing that if somebody has taken them, they could be disappearing at the rate of a mile a minute, and that every minute that child is gone, the chances of recovering that child become less and less.

Therefore, you will take any steps necessary to help recover that child. The most important one being eliminating yourself from any kind of suspicion. Therefore, you go to law enforcement, you say, I want to take a polygraph, I want to eliminate myself.

I want you to be able to put the full force of your investigative resource on to whatever did happen to my child so that we can recover my child and this can be done one way or the other.

This Casey woman is an absolutely odious creature. You see -- it`s like concentric circles in a pond. She is leaving victim after victim after victim after victim. I see this wonderful man, Mr. Grund, almost come to tears on your program over something over which he had absolutely no control, and should not have been involved in ever.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0809/22/ng.01.html

[browneyes106]

I'm glad the Oprah interview got canned. I'll probably watch G&C tomorrow and Thursday on The Early Show to laugh at their lies.

[One2Snoop]

Magic Eightball says "No." But then again, Cindy's pretty mercurial.

snip

I'd forgotten he was banned from Caylee's memorial service....

http://community.discovery.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/3581916879/m/44119083001/p/1

There's a couple of links that talk about it - one is to "friends of caylee" but the forum is private and the other link is to that skanky tard's site.

[lorettalockhorn]

I'd forgotten he was banned from Caylee's memorial service....

http://community.discovery.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/3581916879/m/44119083001/p/1

There's a couple of links that talk about it - one is to "friends of caylee" but the forum is private and the other link is to that skanky tard's site.

Webskanks? :confused::shrug::eek::);):punch::eek::seeya:

[One2Snoop]

Webskanks? :confused::shrug::eek::);):punch::eek::seeya:

:D

Nite all! :seeya:

[lorettalockhorn]

Oh, come on, Loretta! Don't be such a wet blanket! I think it would be fun to "investigate" on a bunch of peripherally involved innocent people, scare the carp out of them, force them to make every communication device private, and get psychics to tell us what really happened after the evidence tells us what happened!

I'll bet Caylee was dumped in the woods near her house. I had a dream.

LMAO Let's get our own Wh0r0sc0pe Sleuthing forum thingie going over here too! It will help us decide which LE agency to call and give tips to.

http://i43.tinypic.com/2zqha3b.jpg

[lorettalockhorn]

Hey Java ~

http://i43.tinypic.com/2958rcx.jpg

Let me know if you'll want one of these in the AM...............We might need it for The Early Show :seeya:

OMOGOSH! I could go for one of those right this minute! :beer:

Loving your artwork!

[Amy]

I just told poppa Oprah cancelled the Anthony interview. He burst out laughing and said, "I told ya it was gonna be along month! These people are nuts! , she'd do right to stay away from them.

Earlier we were talking about this case and he said, "Do you understand that Casey is just a pretty little dolt? She's stupid. Why do you insist that she planned or intended to get even with Cindy? I don't believe she thought that far ahead. She wanted to go party and Caylee was in her way. She lived in the moment. She chloroformed the child and went to party Period! The kid died and she was not going to be bothered dealing with it because she was busy doing what she wanted to do at the time. Even after death Caylee was still in the way. She moved her body in the nic of time and that's that. How it affected Cindy is an aside to this entire thing." Quote poppa.

So I ask him, "What now?" He said, "Now you are going to see a very long month while Cindy wears Caylee's death like some kind of a badge of honor, or a free ticket to say and do what ever she wants because her grandchild was murdered and that's big! She insists that's her right and her privilege to be angry. I suspect she was very mean to Casey at home and Casey's life was tumultuous. I believe what Casey was doing was protesting. Trust me it's going to be a long month with these TV shows. They had to come back and do something outrageous because they missed being in the news. They're all in love with their own reflections"

So I asked, "But did she not love her child at all?"

Poppa said, "Love? What do you see in that family that resembles love?"

There ya have it from poppa. :cuss:

See!!! I said it would be interesting if Poppa posted here. I agree w/him wholeheartedly. He's a wise man, he is!!!

[Amy]

HAHAHA G&C don't do reality. Can you imagine a camera in their house 24/7? Shut up! No, YOU shut up!!

As one of the docs I work with would say, putting reality and the A's in the same sentence is an oxymoron, doncha think?

[Amy]

Scooped Oprah cancels appearance by George, Cindy Anthony

Hal Boedeker | Sentinel Staff Writer
6:29 PM EDT, April 21, 2009

The message is clear: Don't scoop Oprah after she gives you the first invite. :no:

A spokeswoman for "The Oprah Winfrey Show" told the Orlando Sentinel that George and Cindy Anthony, parents of indicted daughter Casey Anthony, will not appear on her show.

You won't see George and Cindy Anthony on "The Oprah Winfrey Show."

"Based on the Anthonys' decision to appear on other programs, we have decided not to move forward with their interview on 'The Oprah Winfrey Show' at this time," the spokesman said this afternoon.

Why? Because after it was announced that the Anthonys would be on Oprah, George and Cindy accepted an invitation to appear on CBS' "Early Show" tomorrow morning.

It's a public relations setback for the Anthonys, who have embarked on something of a media tour in the wake of a decision by State Attorney Lawson Lamar to seek the death penalty against Casey. She is charged with the first-degree murder of her daughter, Caylee Marie.

Meanwhile, George and Cindy are adding up appearances.

They are billed as keynote speakers at the Melanie Ilene Rieger Memorial Conference next month in Connecticut.

Rieger was a college student who was murdered by her boyfriend in 1994. The Web site for the meeting says, "The conference was established in her memory with the hope that others would avoid such tragedy." The conference is presented by the Melanie Ilene Rieger Memorial Foundation and the Connecticut Department of Correction.

The Anthonys are scheduled to speak at 4:30 p.m. May 13 at the two-day conference in Cheshire, Conn.

Their session is titled as "Under Siege: A Homicide Survivor's Story." The schedule offers no more details about what the title means.

Brad Conway, attorney for George and Cindy, confirmed to the Sentinel that Cindy will be speaking.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/orl-bk-casey-anthony-oprah-cancel-042109,0,3151493.story

Wonder if Conway will be on the podium w/her to keep her from saying things she shouldn't be saying? Oh, well, even if he is, I imagine she will ignore whatever he says and just go on saying whatever it is that she wants.

I guess you don't dis Oprah Winfrey. SHE billed her interview w/the A's as the first, and probably an "exclusive" and going on all those other shows even before taping Oprah's--that takes the wind out of the sails. So, that is one point up for Oprah--altho the REASON (which I believe to be because her interview is no longer "exclusive) isn't as honorable as not having them on because they are outrageous, they can't see the forest for the trees, and they continue to lie.

[eatcupcakes]

I just told poppa Oprah cancelled the Anthony interview. He burst out laughing and said, "I told ya it was gonna be along month! These people are nuts! , she'd do right to stay away from them.

Earlier we were talking about this case and he said, "Do you understand that Casey is just a pretty little dolt? She's stupid. Why do you insist that she planned or intended to get even with Cindy? I don't believe she thought that far ahead. She wanted to go party and Caylee was in her way. She lived in the moment. She chloroformed the child and went to party Period! The kid died and she was not going to be bothered dealing with it because she was busy doing what she wanted to do at the time. Even after death Caylee was still in the way. She moved her body in the nic of time and that's that. How it affected Cindy is an aside to this entire thing." Quote poppa.

So I ask him, "What now?" He said, "Now you are going to see a very long month while Cindy wears Caylee's death like some kind of a badge of honor, or a free ticket to say and do what ever she wants because her grandchild was murdered and that's big! She insists that's her right and her privilege to be angry. I suspect she was very mean to Casey at home and Casey's life was tumultuous. I believe what Casey was doing was protesting. Trust me it's going to be a long month with these TV shows. They had to come back and do something outrageous because they missed being in the news. They're all in love with their own reflections"

So I asked, "But did she not love her child at all?"

Poppa said, "Love? What do you see in that family that resembles love?"

There ya have it from poppa. :cuss:

:beer: For Poppa, a very intutive man.

[eatcupcakes]

HAHAHA G&C don't do reality. Can you imagine a camera in their house 24/7? Shut up! No, YOU shut up!!
And don't forget:
"Don't tell me not to pray" and "I don't appreciate u flipping me the Bird" disfunction makes good reality TV. LOL

[deacon]

Wonder if Conway will be on the podium w/her to keep her from saying things she shouldn't be saying? Oh, well, even if he is, I imagine she will ignore whatever he says and just go on saying whatever it is that she wants.
I guess you don't dis Oprah Winfrey. SHE billed her interview w/the A's as the first, and probably an "exclusive" and going on all those other shows even before taping Oprah's--that takes the wind out of the sails. So, that is one point up for Oprah--altho the REASON (which I believe to be because her interview is no longer "exclusive) isn't as honorable as not having them on because they are outrageous, they can't see the forest for the trees, and they continue to lie.

And it all becomes fodder for the trial. Funny how that happens.

[Native Alien]

Okay I wasn't impressed by that interview.

I tried to catch the one on the other channel but no go.

[Gatordog]

Bump for Native.....

It's not worth 89k, especially with the flooding problem. It's a half acre of burial swampland. JMO

Gator

[Gatordog]

HAHAHA G&C don't do reality. Can you imagine a camera in their house 24/7? Shut up! No, YOU shut up!!

LOL - Conversation over breakfast: what weapon do you want to carry today? Do you want the hammer or the baseball bat? Okay, I'll take the bat. You go outside and pretend to pull weeds so we can get those protestors back.

gator

[Gatordog]

Are the Anthony's still on friendly terms with Marc Klass?

Ohhh, I hope that if Cindy and Mark Klaas come face to face, someone films it. I don't mention George because he'll be busy carrying Cindy's green sweater and her purse.:rolleyes:

Gator

[browneyes106]

Maybe Cindy will drop out from the CT speaking engagement once she realizes Mark Klaas will be there. I wish the organizers of the conference would do research into the case and I bet if they did they would drop Cindy as a speaker.

[Gatordog]

Oh Beem, we've been duped! That was Not the A's it was some well behaved,( probably sedated) clones!

Talk about being on your best behavior...all hype, all BS. Quite clearly, it was thrown at them that there is a mountain of evidence againt CMA, but Cindy kept saying she is presumed innocent until proven guilty...and that they love her and will stand by her.http://i39.tinypic.com/2rwtirs.jpg

C also says what eveyone forgets is that THEY have lost their grandaughter..I think she has that backwards, aye? :cuss:

When asked about the suicide attempt, George said that everyone was out to destroy his wife, son, and trampoline daughter and it got to him..he says he want's to make it clear..."You can't give up"........Preach by Example George, preach by example.

Come out from under those covers, beem......ain't nothin to be 'fraid of! :tongue:
http://i44.tinypic.com/29p5bvo.jpg Now there's the truth!

Hey OS, love the picture. Always knew baez was a talking azz.

Okay, who was that Cindy imposter - trying to act all calm and demure.

I would think it was an imposter but I was sure she'd be wearing green. It appears to me that green is her solidarity color for Casey. Instead of wearing black for her granddaughter's death, she's been wearing shamrock green to every event that would be televised.

Part 2 is on tomorrow morning. I hope it is more meaty than today's interview. I never watch CBS news so I don't know who that woman was doing the questioning but she was making me sick with her suck up demeanor. It was as if she was speaking to children. Oh, now I understand it....

Gator

[Gatordog]

Been sick since Saturday night - we've had wild fires and all the smoke inflammed my bronchials; getting better. I will try to drive by the burial site today and see if any flowers are blooming yet and if there is a for sale sign.

gator

[browneyes106]

I was laughing earlier because I remembered how Cindy told ZFG she wasn't a 10. I don't think Cindy is 10 she isn't even a one. ZFG is much better looking than her.

[Gatordog]

Well... I do think it would be more interesting if C&G went on Nancy Grace...UNLEASH THE LAWYERS...heeee!

Just unleash the mouth - Susan Moss! She'd give Cindy a run for her money.

Gator

[Gatordog]

I'm glad the Oprah interview got canned. I'll probably watch G&C tomorrow and Thursday on The Early Show to laugh at their lies.

Just wondering if the barage of emails against the Ants being on the show played a part in the cancellation. The Ants being on CBS first gave them a good "out".

Gator

[Gatordog]

Thanks Gator-bless you :rose: Feel better soon :rose:

Thanks Beem. I'm on lots of meds. I sound terrible but I feel okay now. Can barely speak above a whisper. Need to be well by Saturday, I have a big day planned.

Gator

[deacon]

I know that was so mean-has that family not done enough to that poor woman. C is nasty inside and out. My fav. when i need a chuckle is when C said on the news-whenever Casey has lied to me she always told me the truth. HUH??? If they are now stepford people i am sure going to miss her stupidity. MOO :biggrin:

A quote from my favorite movie. "Stupid is as stupid does, Sir.":D

[lissyanne1]

I am not at all impressed with Oprah's reason for cancellation, I was hoping she would cancel because it was just ethically wrong. She's cancelling because she is in a snit because she wouldn't get an exclusive?? I would hope if she WERE cancelling because of all the protesting that she would have said so to send the Anthony's a message.

[lissyanne1]

Nah, she wouldn't admit it, or bother about a message...she's saving face, and using an excuse to back out...did you go to her home page and see what her fans were saying about the interview?

As long as they are not on, then it's ok! ;)

Yes, I did go to the replies on the oprah websites and could only manage thru the first 200, I think the actual total as of yesterday was over 700! It was funny but the 200 I went thru I was just curious to see if I could find one person who actually sympathized or sided with the Anthonys and couldn't find one! Even O.J> had supporters, that right there speaks volumes.

[Gatordog]

Took a ride in the new wheels :) to get a Mickey D's latte and swung by Suburban Drive. First. it's in much better shape. Looks as if someone or a group of people went in and cleaned it up. We know it wasn't Caylee's grandparents.:mad:

The big barren area where the plants and trees were tossed inyo a pile can longer be seen due to vegetation growth. That's where i put the seeds so hopefully, those plants are the sunflowers. It's much thicker now than it was two weeks ago. No flowers yet.

There are TWO For Sale signs on the property. Saw them with my own two eyes. http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-rolleyes003.gif (http://www.freesmileys.org)

Gator

[Gatordog]

Oh my goodness, what do you do for that Gator? Wildfires in Fla?! :eek:

Take care of yourself! BTW how's that new set of wheels you bought?
Ah....the wind through your hair is such a good feeling! Still gray and rainy here:( Those sunflowers should be doing nicely.....:beer:

http://i39.tinypic.com/ie4182.gif Hey, no talking either! Save your voice for Saturday, because you won't have one after that! HAHA LMAO!


"Blah Blah Blah, Blah Blah Blah.............Blah Blah Blah Blah, Blah Blah Blah!" YUP! :)

LOL - that's what I'm expecting. Lot's of talking.

Switching to OT thread.

Gator

[lorettalockhorn]

Oh Beem, we've been duped! That was Not the A's it was some well behaved,( probably sedated) clones!

Talk about being on your best behavior...all hype, all BS. Quite clearly, it was thrown at them that there is a mountain of evidence againt CMA, but Cindy kept saying she is presumed innocent until proven guilty...and that they love her and will stand by her.http://i39.tinypic.com/2rwtirs.jpg

C also says what eveyone forgets is that THEY have lost their grandaughter..I think she has that backwards, aye? :cuss:

When asked about the suicide attempt, George said that everyone was out to destroy his wife, son, and trampoline daughter and it got to him..he says he want's to make it clear..."You can't give up"........Preach by Example George, preach by example.

Come out from under those covers, beem......ain't nothin to be 'fraid of! :tongue:
http://i44.tinypic.com/29p5bvo.jpg Now there's the truth!

It would be soooo honorable for them to stand by Casey if they weren't denying justice for Caylee. Couldn't they at least be neutral and let the evidence speak for itself? These people are despicable.

You know, I'm seriously beginning to doubt George's suicide attempt. We haven't seen a tox report (and probably never will). I'm thinking most of the drugs and alcohol got flushed and the entire incident was to pave the way to his fragility. Which is something that Cindy would NEVAH be able to exhibit. or even fake. Oh the drama. Conway calls 911 at the appointed time after all those texts became just too eerie (even though Cindy wasn't worried). *wink wink* *nudge nudge*

Would I get in trouble if I used that swearing in banner for an avatar?!?!

[lorettalockhorn]

Oh Loretta, you must have thought I left you flat early this AM! Puter did a PC Cillin search and so I waited till it restarted....I think that's about where I fell asleep! LOLOLOL

And just when do You sleep, woman?! Bless your soul!

Let's have one of those goodies together! :beer:

Oh gosh, I watched two eps of Dominick Dunne and still wasn't sleepy, so watched some Forensic Files, then the DVR kicked in and I was back in the '70s with the Ryans on the Upper West Side. And can you imagine how awful it was when the alarm went off at 6:30 and the coffee maker had crapped out? Had to climb into the attic and bring down the contingency Mr. Coffee. Can you say ZOMBIE?!?!

http://i39.tinypic.com/fnzsw6.jpg

[deacon]

Only be scared if you re easily bored. OS was right. Boring!

My hubby follows none of it, he saw them and told me "those weird Florida murder people" were on, and then asked to change the channel. I said no, then got in more trouble because "they were more fun when they were yelling at lawyers." I apologized for their decorum.

But did you notice when Cindy was asked why she thought Casey was innocent, she said, "I love her". Cindy, that is so not a legal defense!

While I can have sympathy for their situation I have a real problem with their actions. If they think that she is guilty, keep their flippin mouth shut and quit telling lies to try and cover for her.

Me thinks cindy has trouble thinking that this will put her family in a bad light, and if she would just shut the heck up people could understand and not hold the entire family responsible for what happened. Problem is, she can't and probably contributed to the demise of her grand daughter.

[lorettalockhorn]

It's not worth 89k, especially with the flooding problem. It's a half acre of burial swampland. JMO

Gator

Didn't Conway said that the property had been purchased by someone who would use it appropriately or some such? I've read that the neighbors do not want a permanent memorial erected (but don't remember where), and it's zoned R1, so what is possible and appropriate? OCPA still shows Hendricks as the owner.

[deacon]

I'd go so far to say he cried out for help, yes, , but to see him since the depo....wide eyed and crazed lookin...definately NOT normal looking, you can see it in his eyes.........
Cindy? Awwwwwwww she always looks like that...it's them brows or sumptin :shrug:

How can I feel sympathetic, like I do to Sandra's family, when they keep doing the things they do???? Jeezzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.

Who could be normal with a wife like that? I would just hope I had the ....... guts to leave a wife like that. I have been married to the same woman for 31 years and would take nothing for her but if she was like that I would leave. Life is too short to live like that.

[One2Snoop]

Maybe C is trying a subliminal approach to us by wearing her green??? OS ya know i would bail u out LOL What could C have to talk about that would be of any comfort to those attending? Gawd she will prolly drone for hours. I think the Mother Ship has landed :D MOO

I missed GMA. Doesn't sound like I missed much. Was this the same puke green sweater she wore at the deposition or a different one?

[lorettalockhorn]

Yeah, what's with the green, Gator? And.....it's not even her color! They will be about 45 minutes from my house, but there is no one close by to bail me out, so I'm not attending.;)

You know I'll wind up in the pokey, don't cha? :hat:

Did someone say Pokey?

http://i35.tinypic.com/i20zyt.jpg

Not to worry, we'll give you an alibi and/or bail you out!

[One2Snoop]

Anthonys Tell TV Show They Stand By Casey

Posted: 8:48 am EDT April 22, 2009Updated: 12:56 pm EDT April 22, 2009
ORLANDO, Fla. -- The grandparents of slain Florida toddler Caylee Anthony told a national audience Wednesday they support their daughter, calling her a great mother who could not have harmed the child.

George and Cindy Anthony told CBS' "Early Show" they miss their granddaughter, who was 2 when she disappeared, and their daughter, Casey Anthony. Casey, 23, is jailed pending trial for first-degree murder in the death of the child, whose remains were found in December.

George and Cindy Anthony stayed calm during the live network interview, but dodged key questions about Casey.

"We're gonna have to wait and see what plays out," said George.

The Anthonys were told it doesn't look good for Casey. With all the evidence, including the duct tape over Caylee's mouth and topped with a heart sticker.

They were asked whether they would want punishment for Caylee's killer, even if it's Casey.

"Again, we want the truth, but again, we have to wait for everything to come out at trial," replied Cindy.

Prosecutors said last week they will seek the death penalty if Casey is convicted. Her trial has been tentatively set for October.

What was very telling is what the Anthonys did not say and haven't said since Caylee's remains were found around the corner from their house.

"I don't understand what happened, I don't know what happened and again, I think we'll learn a lot more as time goes on," Cindy said.

"We love our daughter. We stand behind her. We know what kind of mother she was," Cindy Anthony said.

The grandparents said it was unlikely that Casey Anthony will accept any sort of plea deal. They said Casey would not admit to something she did not do.

"I don't think it's possible for my daughter to hurt anyone. And she wouldn't definitely hurt her own child. My gosh, I've seen the love every single day that she had for her," George Anthony said. (:rolleyes: The evidence speaks for itself)

The child's remains were found in woods in Orlando in December, six months after she disappeared.

Casey Anthony claimed that Caylee was kidnapped and has pleaded not guilty.

Cindy Anthony said that her daughter didn't tell authorities when the child disappeared in June because she was "afraid."

"I think the truth will come out at trial," said Cindy Anthony.:rolleyes:

George Anthony also talked Wednesday about his emotional difficulties since Caylee's body was found.

In January, Anthony was admitted to a Florida hospital after he was reported missing and found in a hotel. Authorities said he had sent despondent text messages to family members.

"There's only so much a person can take," he said.

George and Cindy will be the keynote speakers at the Melanie Ilene Rieger's memorial conference next month in Connecticut.

Rieger was a college student who was murdered by her boyfriend in 1994. The conference is meant to help the families of murder victims.

Prosecutors could release more evidence in the case this week.

http://www.wftv.com/news/19248537/detail.html#-

[One2Snoop]

Don't most organizations typically list keynote speakers first before adding the "many more"? From above article....

George and Cindy will be the keynote speakers at the Melanie Ilene Rieger's memorial conference next month in Connecticut.

From the Reiger website...

Among scheduled speakers:

* Mildred Muhammed, the DC Sniper’s wife and founder of After The Trauma Inc
* Christine McFadden, who returns to the conference to bring an inspirational and emotional message of surviving the violent murders of her 4 children: Melanie, Stanley, Stuart & Michelle, and severe depression to her marriage to Gerald Corman, a Merced family law judge & the birth of their twin daughters Nicole & Claire>
* Maxine Russell, "Dancing In The Rain", dedicated to the Russell & Daniel Pearl families’ goal of diminishing hatred which took her son Darren’s life in China
* Marc Klaas, President of the Klaas Kids Foundation discussing "Human Trafficking"
* many more...

[One2Snoop]

Casey Anthony
Casey Anthony 'feared for all of our lives,' mom says

Amy L. Edwards and Kevin P. Connolly | Sentinel Staff Writers
8:21 AM EDT, April 22, 2009

Casey Anthony's parents interviewed on CBS


Watch CBS Videos Online

During a nationally televised interview this morning, George Anthony and Cindy Anthony offered supportive words for their daughter, Casey Anthony, and said more information will come out during her daughter's murder's trial.

Casey Anthony, 23, is charged with the murder of her 2-year-old daughter, Caylee Marie.

George Anthony told CBS Early Show co-anchor Maggie Rodriguez said he doesn't think it is possible that his daughter would hurt anyone, especially Caylee.

"I've seen the love every single day that she had for her," George Anthony said. "She wouldn't hurt her."

The Anthonys were accompanied by lawyer Brad Conway, who said they are "anxiously awaiting" details that will come up during trial.

Cindy Anthony said her daughter is presumed innocent.

"I think the truth will come out at trial," Cindy Anthony said.

Rodriguez asked the Anthonys about their daughter's odd behavior, and questioned why she didn't report Caylee missing.

Cindy Anthony said she didn't understand all the things her daughter did. But she said the reason Casey waited 31 days to report Caylee missing was because she worried for her family's safety.

"She was afraid," Cindy Anthony said. "She feared for all of our lives."

Cindy Anthony also said she never had a reason not to trust her daughter with Caylee.

"Caylee belonged to her," she said.

Cindy Anthony also said there was never a "red flag" that anything was amiss until July 15. (contradicts her myspace post in early July saying, "My Caylee is missing)

Rodriguez asked George Anthony about his reaction when Caylee's remains were found just blocks away from their family's Lee Vista-area home.

"Sorrow. Didn't want to believe it," George Anthony said.

The second part of their interview will air Thursday.
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/orl-bk-casey-anthony-cindy-cbs-interview-042209,0,2455680.story

[One2Snoop]

Caylee Anthony: Cindy tells CBS' 'Early Show' that she considered suicide but Casey kept her from it
posted by halboedeker on Apr 22, 2009 11:40:39 AM



Cindy Anthony contemplated suicide several times, she tells CBS' "Early Show" in an interview to air Thursday morning.

"Cindy reveals that George wasn't the only one who considered suicide. She did, too," "Early Show" anchor Maggie Rodriguez told me. "She wrote several suicide notes. Then Casey came home for the first time. When they released her the first time, Cindy says they sat together and prayed, and Casey kept her from going through with it."

Cindy Anthony "told me with tears in her eyes" that it was "something she had never confessed before," Rodriguez said.

George and Cindy Anthony gave "The Early Show" their first joint interview since granddaughter Caylee's remains were found. Their daughter, Casey, is charged with murdering Caylee.

Rodriguez interviewed the couple live today. The second part was taped after today's show and will air on Thursday's show. "The Early Show" starts at 7 a.m. on WKMG-Channel 6.

Rodriguez said she had 30 minutes with the couple after the show. She said the interview could run 10 or 20 minutes -- which would be an eternity in television. She added that it's likely the entire interview will be posted at CBSNews.com.

What else is coming Thursday?

*Rodriguez asked if Cindy regretted making the 911 call that could be used to convict Casey.

"She said, 'I don't regret it. I had to tell the truth. Casey thanked me for making the call immediately after making the call,' " Rodriguez said.

"They say they have no regrets," Rodriguez added. "Would they have called for help sooner? No."

*The couple wouldn't say what they thought happened to Caylee, but "Cindy does say she would like to have private time with her daughter."

*Rodriguez said she could ask anything. But the couple wouldn't answer any questions pertaining to evidence, and their attorney, Brad Conway, would jump in when she tried, Rodriguez added.

*The interviewer's take on the Anthonys? "They are bent on supporting their daughter, no matter what," Rodriguez said. "They don't want to lose another family member."

How did Rodriguez gain the interview over Oprah Winfrey?

"I dont' know their dealings with Oprah," Rodriguez said. "We have been working to secure the interview for many months." Rodriguez said she had reached out repeatedly to the couple and Conway.

http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2009/04/caylee-anthony-cindy-tells-cbs-early-show-that-she-considered-suicide-but-casey-kept-her-from-it.html

[lorettalockhorn]

>>We know what kind of mother she was," Cindy Anthony said.

Puhleez We know what kind of mutha she was too. Especially when she so desperately searched for Caylee and employed the full force and power of LE. :rolleyes:

I'll just have to assume that Casey was the kind of mother that Cindy is and that's why she holds her in such high esteem.

[One2Snoop]

Casey Anthony: George, Cindy display an interview style reminiscent of 'The Three Faces of Eve'
posted by halboedeker on Apr 22, 2009 8:50:57 AM

George and Cindy Anthony remind me of the old movie "Three Faces of Eve."

Just like Joanne Woodward, they've run through a series of personalities.

They shared their subdued side in an exclusive interview with CBS' "Early Show" this morning. They were far different from the furious people who gave depositions in the Zenaida Gonzalez defamation suit against their daughter, Casey. Casey is charged with daughter Caylee's murder.

The news from the interview? Casey, who is facing the death penalty, probably won't accept a plea deal, George said. And Cindy said they wouldn't encourage her to do so.

"I don't think Casey would take a plea deal," Cindy said. "Casey's not going to admit to something she hasn't done."

OK, so maybe it wasn't front-page news. But the interview was another example of how the Anthonys have a habit of contradicting what they've said -- and what has been reported in this well-chronicled saga.

"Early Show" interviewer Maggie Rodriguez asked how Cindy could say with such conviction that Casey hadn't committed the crime. "We know what kind of mother she was," Cindy said.

"I don't think it's possible for my daughter to hurt anyone, definitely her own child," George added.

He didn't think it was possible Casey could hurt anyone? Really?

Rodriguez asked about the 30 days Caylee was missing -- the days before Cindy called authorities.

"I believed she was with her mom," Cindy said. "I've never had a reason not to trust Casey with Caylee."

But, of course, that statement contradicts reports that Cindy wanted to gain custody of the little girl.

This morning, Cindy said Caylee had been Casey's priority.

"I'm just the grandmother," Cindy said. "Just because she lived with me doesn't mean Casey wasn't in charge of Caylee."

Rodriguez pressed the point, asking about Casey's history of lies.

"There was never a red flag until July 15," Cindy said.

Never a red flag? Really?

Rodriguez was sympathetic with two very difficult interview subjects. The chat will continue on Thursday's show. But you have to wonder about the Anthonys' media savvy. They went with "The Early Show" after an interview with daytime queen Oprah Winfrey had been announced. With Winfrey, they would have reached a far wider audience. Yet once Winfrey learned of "The Early Show," she dropped the Anthonys.

Maybe Oprah was the lucky one. The Anthonys are like a minefield for an interviewer.

Rodriguez asked about the penalty. Cindy said they couldn't think about that.

When Rodriguez asked about Cindy's original call to authorities, the grandmother wouldn't touch that question and turned to her attorney, Brad Conway, who was at her side.

George said trying to take his life was the wrong thing and complained about how people had come after his family.

What about the punishment for Caylee's killer?

"We want the truth," Cindy said.

But can they handle the truth? And who are they today?

http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2009/04/casey-anthony-george-cindy-show-lowkey-side-to-early-show-grandma-says-she-saw-no-red-flag-in-caylee.html

[lorettalockhorn]

>>Rodriguez asked George Anthony about his reaction when Caylee's remains were found just blocks away from their family's Lee Vista-area home.

WHAT?! George didn't go postal at the use of the word "remains"?!

[lorettalockhorn]

Why on earth would she consider suicide when there was still a Caylee out there to find?! Unless she knew there wasn't...

Well, exactly! That would have been a little premature. Any chance that the interviewer asked her that? Oh well, it'll be interesting if that comes up in front of the jury.

[deacon]

Why on earth would she consider suicide when there was still a Caylee out there to find?! Unless she knew there wasn't...

To "one up" george of course. :cool: "That was easy."

[shadydaisy]

*snip*

*snip*
"Sorrow. Didn't want to believe it," George Anthony said. "Then the hunger set in. I thought, how about some crab puffs? Everything is better with crab puffs..."

Now THAT was funny!

[One2Snoop]

To "one up" george of course. :cool: "That was easy."

That, or was it to help minimize George's attempt?

I loved Hal Boedeker's interpretation of the interview - if you have time, be sure to read the comments that follow at the OS link I posted above.

[deacon]

That, or was it to help minimize George's attempt?

I loved Hal Boedeker's interpretation of the interview - if you have time, be sure to read the comments that follow at the OS link I posted above.

OUCH! Most of those cut them no slack at all. Not that they deserve any. On the george thing, six of one, half dozen of the other. Tearing george down elevates her, at least in her realm of thinking. *now where is that alien icon*

[deacon]

Anybody else noticing how Cindy is making it look like she hardly had anything to do with Caylee in the most recent interviews, etc? Do you think she's noticed the speculation on the blame being thrown at her by Baez and she's distancing herself? He IS trying to get her phone records, along with everybody else in Orlando.

Hey Gator, you been subpeona'd yet? lol!

Aha! Yes they have. In the depos., georgie saying that only he and cindy*puke* and casey *double puke* watched Caylee and cindy *puke* saying that she knew all about the nanny from Mars. I guess the nanny is from Mars, she doesn't exist here.

Boy, I can't wait for THAT to come out at trial. I wonder if the prosecuter is helping setup interviews for them so he can get more evidence of lies?

[browneyes106]

Casey Anthony
Casey Anthony 'feared for all of our lives,' mom says

Amy L. Edwards and Kevin P. Connolly | Sentinel Staff Writers
8:21 AM EDT, April 22, 2009

Casey Anthony's parents interviewed on CBS


Watch CBS Videos Online

During a nationally televised interview this morning, George Anthony and Cindy Anthony offered supportive words for their daughter, Casey Anthony, and said more information will come out during her daughter's murder's trial.

Casey Anthony, 23, is charged with the murder of her 2-year-old daughter, Caylee Marie.

George Anthony told CBS Early Show co-anchor Maggie Rodriguez said he doesn't think it is possible that his daughter would hurt anyone, especially Caylee.

"I've seen the love every single day that she had for her," George Anthony said. "She wouldn't hurt her."

The Anthonys were accompanied by lawyer Brad Conway, who said they are "anxiously awaiting" details that will come up during trial.

Cindy Anthony said her daughter is presumed innocent.

"I think the truth will come out at trial," Cindy Anthony said.

Rodriguez asked the Anthonys about their daughter's odd behavior, and questioned why she didn't report Caylee missing.

Cindy Anthony said she didn't understand all the things her daughter did. But she said the reason Casey waited 31 days to report Caylee missing was because she worried for her family's safety.

"She was afraid," Cindy Anthony said. "She feared for all of our lives."

Cindy Anthony also said she never had a reason not to trust her daughter with Caylee.

"Caylee belonged to her," she said.

Cindy Anthony also said there was never a "red flag" that anything was amiss until July 15. (contradicts her myspace post in early July saying, "My Caylee is missing)

Rodriguez asked George Anthony about his reaction when Caylee's remains were found just blocks away from their family's Lee Vista-area home.

"Sorrow. Didn't want to believe it," George Anthony said.

The second part of their interview will air Thursday.
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/orl-bk-casey-anthony-cindy-cbs-interview-042209,0,2455680.story

Yep Cindy is an idiot to say that there werent't any red flags. There are other records that she kept calling Casey before July 15th.

[lissyanne1]

Boy, if I was so certain my daughter was innocent I would be definitely combing the earth for the real killer to clear her name. They aren't going to find them in a television studio.

And I would have to give that green sweater a solid 2 on a 1-10 scale

[One2Snoop]

[QUOTE=javahog;9185386]Anybody else noticing how Cindy is making it look like she hardly had anything to do with Caylee in the most recent interviews, etc? Do you think she's noticed the speculation on the blame being thrown at her by Baez and she's distancing herself? He IS trying to get her phone records, along with everybody else in Orlando.

Hey Gator, you been subpeona'd yet? lol![/ Yes She Has! Read On...............:eek:
http://i39.tinypic.com/25z2st3.jpg

LMAO! Too funny OS. http://i39.tinypic.com/724xnn.jpg

[DrewBerry]

Well, exactly! That would have been a little premature. Any chance that the interviewer asked her that? Oh well, it'll be interesting if that comes up in front of the jury.

DOUBLE EXACTLY! Cindy's lying for sympathy. She was still convinced little Caylee was still alive and out there. . .why on earth would she drop that suicide comment if she was so convinced Casey was telling the truth that Caylee was "close to home" and the Nanny kidnapped her. Cindy is as much of a pathological liar as her daughter. I also believe she has obstructed justice covering for her daughter will land her in jail. I can just see it now. BOth of them in side-by-side cells. Cat fight?!
DrewB
Side note: Where MR. slobber wrist CMA hiding these days. WHy isn't he joining his parents as a united front? "I believe everything my sister tells me."
What a dumb-ass!

[lorettalockhorn]

Good to see you Drew! :seeya:

Just tuned in to JVM and the THs are doing a pretty good job of analyzing (read bashing) G&C's CBS interview. Sure, desperate times call for desperate measures, but WHY are they so desperate? Cannot believe that Conway is allowing them to do The Alibi Tour. Is he jealous of Geraldo's crown as Attorney turned Media Wh0re? And what in the world makes Baez think this is going to help his client? I'm thinking The Other Half of the Story is that Cindy created the Casey that we all know and hate.

Well, lo and behold, one of the THs thinks that the jury will feel sorry for the family and give Casey a pardon. I dunno. I think the jury will feel sorry for Caylee; the child who is only represented by strangers. Eiglarsh thinks the defense is only looking for the one jurist that they need. Well, if the jury hangs won't The Liar be retried?

[One2Snoop]

LMAO! http://i39.tinypic.com/724xnn.jpg

Top 10 indicators you are too obsessed with Casey Anthony
Posted on Apr 21, 2009 12:12:20 PM


If any of this applies to you, it's time to go cold turkey on Casey.

1. You read all 13,453 comments posted on today’s Casey story.
2. You typed 100 of those comments.
3. You typed them in capital letters.
4. You haven’t said goodnight to your kids in six months because bedtime is during Nancy Grace.
5. You know who Leonard Padilla is but not Joe Biden.
6. You just bought two hamsters and named them George and Cindy.
7. You get in shrill arguments on message boards with complete strangers about duct tape.
8. You called all your friends to vote in our online poll supporting the death penalty for Casey.
9. All your friends are starting to avoid you.
10. This list really upsets you.

http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/news_columnist_mikethomas/2009/04/top-10-indicators-you-are-obsessed-with-casey-anthony.html

ETA: one of the comments posted....
LOL, ok you got me on a couple of those....but i didn't by 2 hamsters, i bought 2 squirrels.

another one.....

Posted by: Ashley | April 21, 2009 at 03:29 PM

I'm outraged. How could any Top Ten list like this not include the following:

1. You dress in a flag and insist on beer drinking afterwards.

2. You only have your picture taken...with your mouth open...with something appearing to be undigested corn chips inside.

3. You start calling your boss, "Zanny."

4. You leave voice mail messages on George's cell phone pronouncing it, "Zenny."

5. You call Nancy Grace and carry on a conversation where all you do is obnoxiously chew gum.

6. You send e-mails to Jose Baez and ask him how his Mom, Joan, is doing.

7. When you answer the phone, you start by saying, "Bombshell tonight."

8. You order a pizza and say, "Hold the maggots."

9. Leonard Padilla makes sense.

10. You try to cover up lies by telling people you're "Casey-fied."

[lorettalockhorn]

LMAO! http://i39.tinypic.com/724xnn.jpg

Top 10 indicators you are too obsessed with Casey Anthony
Posted on Apr 21, 2009 12:12:20 PM


If any of this applies to you, it's time to go cold turkey on Casey.

1. You read all 13,453 comments posted on today’s Casey story.
2. You typed 100 of those comments.
3. You typed them in capital letters.
4. You haven’t said goodnight to your kids in six months because bedtime is during Nancy Grace.
5. You know who Leonard Padilla is but not Joe Biden.
6. You just bought two hamsters and named them George and Cindy.
7. You get in shrill arguments on message boards with complete strangers about duct tape.
8. You called all your friends to vote in our online poll supporting the death penalty for Casey.
9. All your friends are starting to avoid you.
10. This list really upsets you.

http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/news_columnist_mikethomas/2009/04/top-10-indicators-you-are-obsessed-with-casey-anthony.html

ETA: one of the comments posted....
LOL, ok you got me on a couple of those....but i didn't by 2 hamsters, i bought 2 squirrels.

LMAO Okay, so you have #11!!

12. You have memorized the page numbers that Cindy cited in her ZFG deposition. :hat:

[One2Snoop]

ITA! Hopefully this is the end of their Alibi Tour!!!!

Anthony's Under Fire By Victims' Advocates

Some victims' advocates are offended by George's actions because someone is already under arrest for Caylee's murder. (04/22/09)

http://www.wftv.com/video/19254538/index.html

[One2Snoop]

Cindy Anthony: I Wrote Suicide Notes
'Early Show' Interview Covers Death Penalty For Casey Anthony

POSTED: Tuesday, April 21, 2009

ORLANDO, Fla. -- Cindy Anthony admitted to writing suicide notes after her granddaughter went missing in an interview with the 'Early Show' that will air Thursday morning.

"George and I are living the same nightmare, but I don't know. And I can't judge George for certain things that he's done, you know? I understand certain things. I understand his suicide attempt. A lot of people don't know. I was there too. I wrote suicide notes back in end of July and August. No one knows that," Anthony said.

Anthony said her daughter, Casey Anthony, helped her get through the tough times.

"I couldn't bear not having Caylee around and not knowing what happened to her. And I wanted, you know, I just didn't, you know, you get to a point when you miss someone so much, that you think life's not worth living," Cindy Anthony said.

In their first interview together since their granddaughter's remains were found, George and Cindy Anthony reaffirmed their belief that Casey Anthony did not kill her daughter.

snip
http://www.clickorlando.com/news/19241873/detail.html#-

[One2Snoop]

On NG now!

Huh??? :confused:

"Secret Audio Tape to Police - Cindy implicating Casey and ??saying she had help" - NG said they will play the tape - coming up....

[wind149]

Now the Queen is claiming that she was suicidal too? Man, is there anything that this bi*th won't do or say? This was all for the viewers to feel sympathy for her and George and what cracks me up is they were answering questions that they pre-approved?? And if they did not want to answer instead of blowing up at the reporter like they did at the depos, they looked to their mouthpiece for his assistance!! I have a feeling Oprah would have let it all hang out, and I know Cindy really wanted that coup, but she blew it with her own big mouth and ego, these people are such camerawhores, they can't stand it when the bright lights are not on them and as I think they are going to speed up the death row process by all the bulls*it crap spin, potential jurists have been kept up to speed on this case, a daily dose of it you get the minute you wake up and turn on the tube! I am so disgusted with these pukes, I agreed with the judge, they are not helping the defense by their actions and what cracks me up is Cindy was the one to get the ball rolling but calling 911 and tells the operator that the car smelled like a dead body and then tries to run the crap spin that LE must have planted a body in the car after it was impounded??? And now she lays the crap that CA was Caylee's Mom, she was but the granny? PULEEZE!!! People have said that she and Casey battled over the care of Caylee and keeping in terms that Queenie likes to control, I totally believe that they did fight that night and my friend has often wondered if Caylee might have been fatally injured that night, stepped in between and got hit? It would not take a lot to kill a child of you hit them in the head?? I think it is pure D crapola that C planned suicide too??? She saw the sympathy George got and I think she knows that sympathy has been waning for them and what better way than to drum up more? Now it comes to light that Cindy wanted to commit suicide too, oh shucks, Gee, my heart bleeds NOT!!!

[One2Snoop]

On NG now!

Huh??? :confused:

"Secret Audio Tape to Police - Cindy implicating Casey and ??saying she had help" - NG said they will play the tape - coming up....

Quoting myself~

NG played the tape of Cindy leaving a message for LE saying no matter what scenario they were considering Casey had to have help!

The message was left a week after Caylee was reported missing - July 15, 2008. Will get exact wording when the transcript is up.

[lorettalockhorn]

ITA! Hopefully this is the end of their Alibi Tour!!!!

Anthony's Under Fire By Victims' Advocates

Some victims' advocates are offended by George's actions because someone is already under arrest for Caylee's murder. (04/22/09)

http://www.wftv.com/video/19254538/index.html

ITA with Claire Fielding's sentiments. George is shameless. And should be ashamed.

[lorettalockhorn]

"...they have made the decision to throw all of their chips into a desperate attempt to demonstrate that Casey couldn't do this at the expense of finding justice for Caylee, and I think it's a horrible strategy that is going to continue to backfire on them until after this case is somehow resolved." Mark Klaas
Nancy Grace 4/22/09

[lorettalockhorn]

Quoting myself~

NG played the tape of Cindy leaving a message for LE saying no matter what scenario they were considering Casey had to have help!

The message was left a week after Caylee was reported missing - July 15, 2008. Will get exact wording when the transcript is up.

Dayum. Sounds like Cindy thought Casey was the ringleader.

[Justice Denied?]

ITA! Hopefully this is the end of their Alibi Tour!!!!

Anthony's Under Fire By Victims' Advocates

Some victims' advocates are offended by George's actions because someone is already under arrest for Caylee's murder. (04/22/09)

http://www.wftv.com/video/19254538/index.html

Exactly! It's about time somebody said it. Kaylee is not a child who was abducted and murdered. Casey knew where she was the whole time there were thousands of dollars, and hundreds of people spending who knows how many hours looking for her.

Casey's case is a lot different from parents who have lost their kids to violent death at the hands of a stranger.

[deputydi]

DOUBLE EXACTLY! Cindy's lying for sympathy. She was still convinced little Caylee was still alive and out there. . .why on earth would she drop that suicide comment if she was so convinced Casey was telling the truth that Caylee was "close to home" and the Nanny kidnapped her. Cindy is as much of a pathological liar as her daughter. I also believe she has obstructed justice covering for her daughter will land her in jail. I can just see it now. BOth of them in side-by-side cells. Cat fight?!
DrewB
Side note: Where MR. slobber wrist CMA hiding these days. WHy isn't he joining his parents as a united front? "I believe everything my sister tells me."
What a dumb-ass!
Oh, Pleeeeeze. I still can't get passed Cindy's admission that she "had numerous phone numbers and addresses for Zanny" but didn't think it was her place to further investigate. Lately Cindy is ALMOST making me feel sorry for Casey. Liars beget liars. Casey learned what she lived.

[lorettalockhorn]

Now the Queen is claiming that she was suicidal too? Man, is there anything that this bi*th won't do or say?

No. No, there is nothing.

This was all for the viewers to feel sympathy for her and George and what cracks me up is they were answering questions that they pre-approved?? And if they did not want to answer instead of blowing up at the reporter like they did at the depos, they looked to their mouthpiece for his assistance!! I have a feeling Oprah would have let it all hang out

Please Oprah, don't let it all hang out. psst Did you hear about Oprah being busted? Yep. They looked up her dress and found fifty pounds of crack.

and I know Cindy really wanted that coup, but she blew it with her own big mouth and ego, these people are such camerawhores, they can't stand it when the bright lights are not on them and as I think they are going to speed up the death row process by all the bulls*it crap spin

When the jury sees that G&C are willing to lie under oath, that Caylee has been disenfranchised and collateralized, they will want someone to pay.

potential jurists have been kept up to speed on this case, a daily dose of it you get the minute you wake up and turn on the tube! I am so disgusted with these pukes, I agreed with the judge, they are not helping the defense by their actions and what cracks me up is Cindy was the one to get the ball rolling but calling 911 and tells the operator that the car smelled like a dead body and then tries to run the crap spin that LE must have planted a body in the car after it was impounded??? And now she lays the crap that CA was Caylee's Mom, she was but the granny? PULEEZE!!! People have said that she and Casey battled over the care of Caylee and keeping in terms that Queenie likes to control

Wouldn't it be just great and just desserts if anyone not bound by privilege could speak to Cindy's plan to take Caylee away from her unfit mother?

I totally believe that they did fight that night and my friend has often wondered if Caylee might have been fatally injured that night, stepped in between and got hit? It would not take a lot to kill a child of you hit them in the head?? I think it is pure D crapola that C planned suicide too???

WHAT?! Cindy failed at something? Hard to believe that the epitome of perfection was talked out of suicide by the one who perpetrated this crime, and before Timer55 had timed out.

She saw the sympathy George got and I think she knows that sympathy has been waning for them and what better way than to drum up more? Now it comes to light that Cindy wanted to commit suicide too, oh shucks, Gee, my heart bleeds NOT!!!

Still want to know how much sympathy there is for G&C. We need to get WESH or WFTV or Orlando Sentinel or all of the above to do a poll! And they can throw in a question about whether or not people think G&C should be charged with obstruction of justice.

ETA: That joke about Oprah is a joke. Just a joke. She was never busted.

[lorettalockhorn]

The Anthonys on The Early Show

George and Cindy Anthony were on The Early Show today. It was heart-wrenching listening to them.

The one notable element in this video for me was that Cindy is clinging steadfast to the belief that Casey is innocent, but when I watch George, I see indications that lead me to believe that George has come to terms with Casey and Caylee, and the real potential that Casey killed Caylee, but he is unable to share it because either Cindy cannot cope with it, or he doesn't want to talk publicly about it because it could obviously affect a fair trial for Casey...

http://eyesforlies.blogspot.com/2009/04/anthonys-on-early-show.html

More to come tomorrow.

http://www.eyesforlies.blogspot.com/

[DrewBerry]

Good to see you Drew! :seeya:

Just tuned in to JVM and the THs are doing a pretty good job of analyzing (read bashing) G&C's CBS interview. Sure, desperate times call for desperate measures, but WHY are they so desperate? Cannot believe that Conway is allowing them to do The Alibi Tour. Is he jealous of Geraldo's crown as Attorney turned Media Wh0re? And what in the world makes Baez think this is going to help his client? I'm thinking The Other Half of the Story is that Cindy created the Casey that we all know and hate.

Well, lo and behold, one of the THs thinks that the jury will feel sorry for the family and give Casey a pardon. I dunno. I think the jury will feel sorry for Caylee; the child who is only represented by strangers. Eiglarsh thinks the defense is only looking for the one jurist that they need. Well, if the jury hangs won't The Liar be retried?

OMG! Just watching their interview tape from the Early Show. What a change in demeanor; soft spoken, non-confrontational. Oh, yeah. . .and WTF is their Atty. Brad thinking??? I'm very pleased that Oprah axed the ANTs from her show. Would love to hear how that came about. THeir out telling their story for sympathy---maybe people will feel sorry for them since G & C want to claim thoughts of suicide. Most people I know don't speak so freely and ESPECIALLY on national TV about suicidal ideation and by the way while I'm ranting about Cindy, let's see some of the "many" suicide notes you wrote while you were convinced your granddaughter was alive. :flamemad:
DrewB

[DrewBerry]

The Anthonys on The Early Show

George and Cindy Anthony were on The Early Show today. It was heart-wrenching listening to them.

The one notable element in this video for me was that Cindy is clinging steadfast to the belief that Casey is innocent, but when I watch George, I see indications that lead me to believe that George has come to terms with Casey and Caylee, and the real potential that Casey killed Caylee, but he is unable to share it because either Cindy cannot cope with it, or he doesn't want to talk publicly about it because it could obviously affect a fair trial for Casey...

http://eyesforlies.blogspot.com/2009/04/anthonys-on-early-show.html

More to come tomorrow.

http://www.eyesforlies.blogspot.com/

Good to see you too, Loretta. ITA. I believe George knows the truth but he has been pressured to play the game because Cindy rules that family. I hope one day soon, he'll reach a breaking point and be strong enough to walk away from Cindy. They way they're operating now is only going to backfire on them. Still can't believe George is so spineless -- given his LE background and all. Must be some more family secrets that haven't surfaced YET!
DrewB

[lorettalockhorn]

OMG! Just watching their interview tape from the Early Show. What a change in demeanor; soft spoken, non-confrontational. Oh, yeah. . .and WTF is their Atty. Brad thinking??? I'm very pleased that Oprah axed the ANTs from her show. Would love to hear how that came about. THeir out telling their story for sympathy---maybe people will feel sorry for them since G & C want to claim thoughts of suicide. Most people I know don't speak so freely and ESPECIALLY on national TV about suicidal ideation and by the way while I'm ranting about Cindy, let's see some of the "many" suicide notes you wrote while you were convinced your granddaughter was alive. :flamemad:
DrewB

Who ARE these people and what have they done with the deviANTs that we know and love (to hate)?

Cindy should cough up those suicide notes along with those addresses and phone numbers for ZFG! I no longer believe that George's suicide attempt was any more real than Cindy's ideation was. They probably played rock/paper/scissors and George lost two out of three and had to go public with his cockamamie gesture.

What is Brad thinking? Hmmm Probably something along the lines of "will I end up as George's attorney, or Cindy's?" Fitty dollah on Cindy. ;)

[lighthousedazy]

These people are really getting me depressed. I can't watch Nancy any more because they keep showing the depo with the A's lying under oath. Too much. :flamemad:

[lighthousedazy]

Some of you may remember me mentioning the case of Teresa Fargeson in Macon Ga that smothered her beautiful little 6 yro girl because she thought her new boyfriend didn't want children. A very sad case; this was before CNN in the early 90's in GA anyway, but was well known on the local media. A change of venue moved the case to Valdosta, GA. Teresa had one of the best lawyers in Macon, but she was found guilty of killing her daughter. She went into the Kroger that night and started screaming that someone had kidnapped her daughter. The cameras showed no little girl entering the store with her. Her daughter was found on the side of the road on the side of town that Teresa lived on. On hearing the jurors, they stated that Teresa showed no emotion (like Casey) and that she never said or pleaded that she was not guilty (also like casey). just some thoughts and jmo. :rose:
ETA: We never saw her family in the media and they surely didn't behave like the Ants. jmo

[Amy]

Didn't Conway said that the property had been purchased by someone who would use it appropriately or some such? I've read that the neighbors do not want a permanent memorial erected (but don't remember where), and it's zoned R1, so what is possible and appropriate? OCPA still shows Hendricks as the owner.

I've noticed that Mr Conway isn't always.....well, truthful in his statements. Like, saying Casey was trying to get to the funeral and the memorial, and to have a private family meeting, etc etc etc in such a fashion that would make one believe that Casey wanted all this....when in fact, the jail authorities say Casey has never made a request for these things. Methinks he is a silver tongued devil. Gives lawyers a bad name.

[Amy]

That, or was it to help minimize George's attempt?

I loved Hal Boedeker's interpretation of the interview - if you have time, be sure to read the comments that follow at the OS link I posted above.

One of the posts reminded me--the poster asked about a pic of nanny w/Caylee or w/Caylee and Casey. What ever DID happen to that pic that Baez said his "PI" was going to get from some fellow? Remember, they (now, would that be his PI D.Casey when he was still on contract w/Baez, or later when he was on contract w/the A's, or would that be PI extraodinaire Lee Anthony?) had tracked down some fellow who was in possession of a pic of the elusive nanny and Caylee together. And then, we heard not another word about it. Guess either the PI wasn't able to contact the fellow after all. Or, maybe the fellow realized what a gold mine he had, and @ the appropriate time, he will sell it for some mighty big bucks (maybe he's shopping around for a buyer now) OR---I know---since there was no nanny, there was no pic!!!! I'll take door #3, Monte.

[Amy]

Yep Cindy is an idiot to say that there werent't any red flags. There are other records that she kept calling Casey before July 15th.

Funny how, in her FBI interview, with her notebook and all her ducks in a row, she was saying this and that and the other were "red flags." Guess she has CRS syndrome, too, huh?

[Amy]

DOUBLE EXACTLY! Cindy's lying for sympathy. She was still convinced little Caylee was still alive and out there. . .why on earth would she drop that suicide comment if she was so convinced Casey was telling the truth that Caylee was "close to home" and the Nanny kidnapped her. Cindy is as much of a pathological liar as her daughter. I also believe she has obstructed justice covering for her daughter will land her in jail. I can just see it now. BOth of them in side-by-side cells. Cat fight?!
DrewB
Side note: Where MR. slobber wrist CMA hiding these days. WHy isn't he joining his parents as a united front? "I believe everything my sister tells me."
What a dumb-ass!

I guess someone has to stay home and make sure the dogs are fed, and they are let out to do their "duty." And to water the lawn and all that. :chicken:

[Amy]

Good to see you Drew! :seeya:

Just tuned in to JVM and the THs are doing a pretty good job of analyzing (read bashing) G&C's CBS interview. Sure, desperate times call for desperate measures, but WHY are they so desperate? Cannot believe that Conway is allowing them to do The Alibi Tour. Is he jealous of Geraldo's crown as Attorney turned Media Wh0re? And what in the world makes Baez think this is going to help his client? I'm thinking The Other Half of the Story is that Cindy created the Casey that we all know and hate.

Well, lo and behold, one of the THs thinks that the jury will feel sorry for the family and give Casey a pardon. I dunno. I think the jury will feel sorry for Caylee; the child who is only represented by strangers. Eiglarsh thinks the defense is only looking for the one jurist that they need. Well, if the jury hangs won't The Liar be retried?

I don't think Conway has much control over the A's-especially Cindy. I'm thinking he's along for the ride to hopefully keep them from hanging themselves. Oh, and the tv exposure doesn't hurt (unless it makes him look foolish.) And, certainly Baez is not THEIR attorney, and just like Conway, has no control over them--even if he went to them and spelled out how their continued presence in the media may be detrimental to their daughter--they are going to do what THEY want. And, I'm betting they have missed being in front of the cameras all these months.

Yep, if there is a hung jury or a mistrial, there will be another trial. In some cases, the State decides to not go thru another trial, but I'm betting that wouldn't be the case here. I don't think the State will give up on making sure Casey Anthony pays for killing her own baby.

[Native Alien]

I believe that it was on JVM last evening that someone asked about Baez and why wasn't he doing something about George and Cindy because all they were doing was making his client look bad.

I thought to myself then that Conway can't control these people and they are his clients. Why in Hades would anyone else stand a chance on controlling them? Seems some people just don't get what G & C are all about.

[eatcupcakes]

I guess someone has to stay home and make sure the dogs are fed, and they are let out to do their "duty." And to water the lawn and all that. :chicken:

That would be Lee, u know him the wrist kissing brother:eek:

[eatcupcakes]

It appears to me that if they are so sure Casey is innocent then why are they not spending all their time looking for the real ZFG instead of going on TV and doing speaking engagements. If Cindy has the phone number and address of ZFG you would think she would have given it to LE so that they could trace it back to the person that pays the bills. Lets face facts, if the found the real ZFG their daughter could go free. And if she believes her daughter then why is she saying she wants Casey to tell her what happened. It seems to me that the Liar already did that, she told her ZFG took Caylee and that is all she knows. George comes off differently then Cindy. I am sure he believes Casey killed Caylee but he is trying to support his wife because what has he got left. His granddaughter he loved with all his heart is gone and his daughter is gonna spend the rest of her life in Prison.

[eatcupcakes]

So....Casey stopped her suicidal thoughts? I remember not too much longer she was laughingly asking George: "Why is she crying?" at the jailhouse/dorm visit...

So concerned! :rolleyes:


And I am a LITTLE TIRED of hearing about what is to "Come Out". The truth, the story, whatever. A LITTLE Tired I tell Ya....http://i40.tinypic.com/hwam2u.jpg


Bleh!

This is like hearing Lee and Jackie Peterson all over again. They said the truth would come out at the trial and free their son. The truth came out all right. LOL. The truth that is gonna come out at this trial, is that Cayse is a lying, theiving, sleep around who did not give one little dam about her daughter who she called a Little Shot Head in an emial to her boyfriend. Yeah Cindy your daughter should get the Mother of The Year Award.

[Woostock]

The Anthony family needed family counseling long ago. The dynamics with Cindy and George, and Casey are very telling. Cindy is a whacko who is always right; Casey is a stranger to the truth and it goes on and on. Imagine trying to convince Cindy of anything? She knows it all...I suppose Cindy knows that Caylee is gone and now all they can do is protect Casey. I'd like to believe they are in the minority with how they are handling this. I have run into parents who obviously don't believe me when I tell them their child cheated on a test or lied to me. As if I would make that up but denial is always there when you need it. You pay for it in the long run one way or another.

[Native Alien]

Okay I want to know who made such lifelike robots of G and C and put them on TV. That was so soft that it was laughable to me.

I can't believe what they did and Brad Conway, shame on you for being there with them, let alone going along with what they did.

I just wish that someone that had a pair would do a hard interview with these people and ask the questions that need to be asked.

[Native Alien]

The Anthony family needed family counseling long ago. The dynamics with Cindy and George, and Casey are very telling. Cindy is a whacko who is always right; Casey is a stranger to the truth and it goes on and on. Imagine trying to convince Cindy of anything? She knows it all...I suppose Cindy knows that Caylee is gone and now all they can do is protect Casey. I'd like to believe they are in the minority with how they are handling this. I have run into parents who obviously don't believe me when I tell them their child cheated on a test or lied to me. As if I would make that up but denial is always there when you need it. You pay for it in the long run one way or another.

While I agree with you Woo, I don't think that any councilor would touch that family now. Too many lies to have to wade thru for most that I know. And I don't know that it would have helped before either. I think that the best that can happen at this point would be to just chalk them up to being lost and beyond recoverable.

[Amy]

Just turned the tv to CBS--sorry, about 1 1/2 minutes and I'm out of there!!!! If ever a puke icon is needed, it is now!!! I don't know which part is more puke-provoking--the interviewer, so soft spoken, so carefully wording her questions (like saying people call Casey a--must I say it--liar) or Cindy so soft-spoken--she is my daughter she is presumed innocent--which is about the only "truth" she has uttered in how many months? Of course, that is innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. And Conway, in his most lawyer-like utterance--There is no evidence there is only discovery. Splitting hairs here, Bert. Like, none of the discovery is going to be presented as evidence? And, technically speaking the investigators discovered evidence.

And, to add to the puke factor--that green sweater!!! Couldn't look long enough to see if there was a shamrock. Wonder if anyone is advising Cindy it's okay to change up on the colors of her shirts now and again. Wear something pink or blue or yellow--and wear your dadgum little shamrock that has no special meaning to your daughter who wears one permanently on her keister.

[sharlock]

I've noticed that Mr Conway isn't always.....well, truthful in his statements. Like, saying Casey was trying to get to the funeral and the memorial, and to have a private family meeting, etc etc etc in such a fashion that would make one believe that Casey wanted all this....when in fact, the jail authorities say Casey has never made a request for these things. Methinks he is a silver tongued devil. Gives lawyers a bad name.
Or his denial that their had been a funeral and that Caylee had not been cremated, now that was a bald faced lie. Remember he said that she was still sitting in the funeral home and said it was because they wanted to make sure the defense had all the time they needed to examine her. Then later it turned out she had been cremated prior to him making that statement. There was something very hinky going on there and Baez's statement from Casey revealed somewhat the truth behind the lies I thought.

[eatcupcakes]

Gee, I missed the Stepford family this morning :rolleyes: ~ what'd I miss?
Oh, nothing? No new revelations? No Nanny pics? Someone fill me in!

Brad Conway can't handle them, as Mark NeJame couldn't. They are a defense atty's nightmare. They talk too much, don't stick to the topics, and and think they are at a sparring match. They fail to forget how this whole situation came about, eh? Oh, yes, the Nannnnnnnnnnnnnnnnyyyyyyyy.
Conway is hanging in there because he feels bad for them, (and it's a job, isn't it?) His lawyering techniques at the depos show exactly who's in control, and it's not him. NOT a good thing.

And why the heck are they doing the circuit? Do they have a book they're promoting? No? Get Off the Stage! http://i41.tinypic.com/23igp6t.jpg

A book will be coming out after the trial. I would bet they already have a deal.
As for these interview on the Morning Show. I am wondering if Time Warner ownes CBS because they who ownes CNN and they were on Laryy King when they went out to CA, which I am sure they did to make a deal with Time Warner. If they did that is probable the reason for these interviews they have a contract to meet. That is why they had to do this over Oprah. THis interview seemed to me to be rehearsed or at least they knew the questions that were going to be asked. It is clear to me that they have money deals that is why neither of them are working or appears to need money.

[sharlock]

Gee, I missed the Stepford family this morning :rolleyes: ~ what'd I miss?
Oh, nothing? No new revelations? No Nanny pics? Someone fill me in!

Brad Conway can't handle them, as Mark NeJame couldn't. They are a defense atty's nightmare. They talk too much, don't stick to the topics, and and think they are at a sparring match. They fail to forget how this whole situation came about, eh? Oh, yes, the Nannnnnnnnnnnnnnnnyyyyyyyy.
Conway is hanging in there because he feels bad for them, (and it's a job, isn't it?) His lawyering techniques at the depos show exactly who's in control, and it's not him. NOT a good thing.

And why the heck are they doing the circuit? Do they have a book they're promoting? No? Get Off the Stage! http://i41.tinypic.com/23igp6t.jpg
Lol true but at least their antics did them out of both Oprah and the keynote speakers arrangement for victims of murder.

[sharlock]

Or his denial that their had been a funeral and that Caylee had not been cremated, now that was a bald faced lie. Remember he said that she was still sitting in the funeral home and said it was because they wanted to make sure the defense had all the time they needed to examine her. Then later it turned out she had been cremated prior to him making that statement. There was something very hinky going on there and Baez's statement from Casey revealed somewhat the truth behind the lies I thought.
Remeber Baez telling Judge strickland that he had conferred with Casey specifically that morning and she had waived her right to attend court; funny thing though, noone from Baez's team visited Casey that day before the arraignment. Was he kind enough to leave her an iphone to take his calls with?:cool:

[Amy]

A book will be coming out after the trial. I would bet they already have a deal.
As for these interview on the Morning Show. I am wondering if Time Warner ownes CBS because they who ownes CNN and they were on Laryy King when they went out to CA, which I am sure they did to make a deal with Time Warner. If they did that is probable the reason for these interviews they have a contract to meet. That is why they had to do this over Oprah. THis interview seemed to me to be rehearsed or at least they knew the questions that were going to be asked. It is clear to me that they have money deals that is why neither of them are working or appears to need money.

I noticed in the minute or so I watched there was no "thinking" about the answer to any of the timid, bland, non-confrontational questions they were being asked. I remember months ago when they first were hitting the airwaves, they gave the producers lists of what they would NOT be asked. I'm betting the interviewer had to submit to them the questions she would be asking, so they already had the answers to those they would address. I'm also betting they crossed out any questions that they would prohibit being asked. And possibly even re-worded some of the questions they would allow. But, all that is just my opinion, of course.

I think Cindy would do good to use some of that money to add to her wardrobe. Now, she doesn't need to buy the latest fashion designer clothes which would indeed draw attention to money deals they swear they haven't made. But goodness, one can pick out some nice little outfits @ JCPennys or Sears or Walmart or Target. ;)

[eatcupcakes]

Hi Sharlock! :) How are you? Long time no see!

Yes, it seem Conway has his hands full, and he has lied left and right about many things ~ all seen on tape. I would think as an atty who has sworn to uphold the law, would be adverse to not only his clients lying on a court ordered deposition, but even he himself putting untruths out there.

I know Cindy & George will be called out regarding their lies during the criminal trial, but what pisses me off to no end is that they are getting away with it ~ right now. Nothing is being done about it either. The jury pool tainting of some good souls who are hearing their lies and have that sympathetic goodness in their heart is a damn scarey thing. On our board here, we can talk back and forth about our thoughts and possible scenarios, but mostly we rely on the doc dumps from LE regarding the real evidence.




I guess that is the point of what they, the Anthony's, are trying to do, using the emotional aspect of the murder to sway others to their way of thinking.

The evidence, albeit circumstancial, speaks volumes, and does not fit in with their lies. Hopes she likes her digs, Casey.....lots of poles to dance on.

Caylee :rose:

Maybe this is gonna be their Stic, get symphathy for themselves and no jury will convict their daughter because they feel so sorry for C&G. Well good luck to them because it ANIN"T GONNA HAPPEN!!!!

[eatcupcakes]

I noticed in the minute or so I watched there was no "thinking" about the answer to any of the timid, bland, non-confrontational questions they were being asked. I remember months ago when they first were hitting the airwaves, they gave the producers lists of what they would NOT be asked. I'm betting the interviewer had to submit to them the questions she would be asking, so they already had the answers to those they would address. I'm also betting they crossed out any questions that they would prohibit being asked. And possibly even re-worded some of the questions they would allow. But, all that is just my opinion, of course.

I think Cindy would do good to use some of that money to add to her wardrobe. Now, she doesn't need to buy the latest fashion designer clothes which would indeed draw attention to money deals they swear they haven't made. But goodness, one can pick out some nice little outfits @ JCPennys or Sears or Walmart or Target. ;)

I don't think she is very stylish. Look at her hair and the type of jewlery she wears, very dated. To bad, she has a nice figure and would look good in a pretty outfit with cute shoes and some chuncky jewlery, Not that I care what she wears, LOL

[lorettalockhorn]

I don't think Conway has much control over the A's-especially Cindy. I'm thinking he's along for the ride to hopefully keep them from hanging themselves. Oh, and the tv exposure doesn't hurt (unless it makes him look foolish.) And, certainly Baez is not THEIR attorney, and just like Conway, has no control over them--even if he went to them and spelled out how their continued presence in the media may be detrimental to their daughter--they are going to do what THEY want. And, I'm betting they have missed being in front of the cameras all these months.

Yep, if there is a hung jury or a mistrial, there will be another trial. In some cases, the State decides to not go thru another trial, but I'm betting that wouldn't be the case here. I don't think the State will give up on making sure Casey Anthony pays for killing her own baby.

There you have it! He does look like a fool. The more the Ants talk, the more lies they tell and conflicting statements they make, which is why they should shuttttttttttteeeeeeeeeee. Baez isn't their attorney, BUT there should be a coordinated effort by the defense to defend the client and since G&C are pretty much all Casey has right now, G&C should shuttttttteeeeee.

But WAIT! I want to see Casey fry, so let 'em speak. Oprah, have a heart. Take them back!!!!!!!!!

http://i42.tinypic.com/5pq77r.jpg
Buh bye

[Woostock]

I know what you mean it would not have been easy being a family therapist with this family but who knows maybe they would have made some changes. I know it is hard for any parent to believe that your daughter is a liar but the alternative is worse. Anyway, it didn't happen and the family went down hill and look at the mess they have now. Cindy, especially, is a Know-it-all

[lorettalockhorn]

It appears to me that if they are so sure Casey is innocent then why are they not spending all their time looking for the real ZFG instead of going on TV and doing speaking engagements. If Cindy has the phone number and address of ZFG you would think she would have given it to LE so that they could trace it back to the person that pays the bills. Lets face facts, if the found the real ZFG their daughter could go free. And if she believes her daughter then why is she saying she wants Casey to tell her what happened. It seems to me that the Liar already did that, she told her ZFG took Caylee and that is all she knows. George comes off differently then Cindy. I am sure he believes Casey killed Caylee but he is trying to support his wife because what has he got left. His granddaughter he loved with all his heart is gone and his daughter is gonna spend the rest of her life in Prison.

These are the questions everyone wants an answer to, and the more they talk and the wider an audience they reach, the more damage it does not only to the case, but to their own credibility. Which will hurt the most in the penalty phase. (Which is okay for me!)

Not to mention the fact that Caylee is now collateral damage. How's that gonna look to a jury?

[Woostock]

I have to believe that LE has all their ducks in a row. Cindy can yap all she wants but she just is making a fool of herself and her lies are out there for all to hear.

[lorettalockhorn]

Gee, I missed the Stepford family this morning :rolleyes: ~ what'd I miss?
Oh, nothing? No new revelations? No Nanny pics? Someone fill me in!

Brad Conway can't handle them, as Mark NeJame couldn't. They are a defense atty's nightmare. They talk too much, don't stick to the topics, and and think they are at a sparring match. They fail to forget how this whole situation came about, eh? Oh, yes, the Nannnnnnnnnnnnnnnnyyyyyyyy.
Conway is hanging in there because he feels bad for them, (and it's a job, isn't it?) His lawyering techniques at the depos show exactly who's in control, and it's not him. NOT a good thing.

And why the heck are they doing the circuit? Do they have a book they're promoting? No? Get Off the Stage! http://i41.tinypic.com/23igp6t.jpg

Oh! Speaking of Conway's job and techniques, someone (of course I can't remember who!) said on one of the HLN programs that Conway acted as though he was functioning as Casey's attorney during the G&C depositions. Why has her attorney never attended? Doesn't that seem like ineffectivenes of council??

Anyway, according to whichever TH is was, the only thing that Conway was legally allowed to object to was questions involving privilege.

I think Conway is as slimy as Baez. And G&C. And Casey.

[Woostock]

The Alibi tour is just what it is.

[Amy]

I know what you mean it would not have been easy being a family therapist with this family but who knows maybe they would have made some changes. I know it is hard for any parent to believe that your daughter is a liar but the alternative is worse. Anyway, it didn't happen and the family went down hill and look at the mess they have now. Cindy, especially, is a Know-it-all

Oh, Cindy is WELL AWARE that Casey is a liar and has admitted that. She put that out @ the very beginning. One of her statements was that, altho Casey lies, there is some truth in her lies.

[Amy]

It appears to me that if they are so sure Casey is innocent then why are they not spending all their time looking for the real ZFG instead of going on TV and doing speaking engagements. If Cindy has the phone number and address of ZFG you would think she would have given it to LE so that they could trace it back to the person that pays the bills. Lets face facts, if the found the real ZFG their daughter could go free. And if she believes her daughter then why is she saying she wants Casey to tell her what happened. It seems to me that the Liar already did that, she told her ZFG took Caylee and that is all she knows. George comes off differently then Cindy. I am sure he believes Casey killed Caylee but he is trying to support his wife because what has he got left. His granddaughter he loved with all his heart is gone and his daughter is gonna spend the rest of her life in Prison.

George DID say in his depo to Morgan that they are leaving it up to LE to be looking for the real killer. I wonder if they watched their performance? HEY, GEORGE--LE ISN'T LOOKING FOR ZANNY--THEY HAVE THE MURDERER BEHIND BARS!!!!! Gosh, that was about as dumb a remark as any they made.

[lorettalockhorn]

Lol true but at least their antics did them out of both Oprah and the keynote speakers arrangement for victims of murder.

Didn't know that they had stepped back or been bumped or whatever, but glad to hear. Seems inappropriate for them to speak as victim's advocates when they support the murderer to the point that they lie under oath and rarely mention Caylee except to promote the murderer.

[Its just me]

These are the questions everyone wants an answer to, and the more they talk and the wider an audience they reach, the more damage it does not only to the case, but to their own credibility. Which will hurt the most in the penalty phase. (Which is okay for me!)

Not to mention the fact that Caylee is now collateral damage. How's that gonna look to a jury?


I came across this quote and instantly thought of this case.

"Lying, deceiving, and manipulation are natural talents for psychopaths...When caught in a lie or challenged with the truth, they are seldom perplexed or embarrassed -- they simply change their stories or attempt to rework the facts so that they appear to be consistent with the lie. The results are a series of contradictory statements and a thoroughly confused listener." - Dr Robert Hare

[Gatordog]

Anybody else noticing how Cindy is making it look like she hardly had anything to do with Caylee in the most recent interviews, etc? Do you think she's noticed the speculation on the blame being thrown at her by Baez and she's distancing herself? He IS trying to get her phone records, along with everybody else in Orlando.

Hey Gator, you been subpeona'd yet? lol!

Keeping my head low and feet fast! Not many attorneys left in Central Florida who could represent me. Good thing my car has a new license plate number. They probably had the green machine's number on file.

Does anyone actually believe that Cindy wrote suicide letters. She was probably putting her thoughts down on paper for that book she knew she was going to write. Should be called "The Three Faces of Cindy". There's "Mad", there's "Rabid", and then there's "Her Serene Highness". I think I'm most frightened of Her Serene Highness because that is not a natural state and it means she's thinking instead of reacting. Watch out!

Gator

[Gatordog]

Some of you may remember me mentioning the case of Teresa Fargeson in Macon Ga that smothered her beautiful little 6 yro girl because she thought her new boyfriend didn't want children. A very sad case; this was before CNN in the early 90's in GA anyway, but was well known on the local media. A change of venue moved the case to Valdosta, GA. Teresa had one of the best lawyers in Macon, but she was found guilty of killing her daughter. She went into the Kroger that night and started screaming that someone had kidnapped her daughter. The cameras showed no little girl entering the store with her. Her daughter was found on the side of the road on the side of town that Teresa lived on. On hearing the jurors, they stated that Teresa showed no emotion (like Casey) and that she never said or pleaded that she was not guilty (also like casey). just some thoughts and jmo. :rose:
ETA: We never saw her family in the media and they surely didn't behave like the Ants. jmo

Once you mentioned Krogers, it all came back. Horrible just horrible. I think it was followed within a week by another story of a woman who claimed her daughter was taken from a Flea Market. Caught her too. The security camera showed her walking into the flea market, alone. She had already killed her daughter and was trying to hide the fact.

Gator

[Amy]

I came across this quote and instantly thought of this case.

"Lying, deceiving, and manipulation are natural talents for psychopaths...When caught in a lie or challenged with the truth, they are seldom perplexed or embarrassed -- they simply change their stories or attempt to rework the facts so that they appear to be consistent with the lie. The results are a series of contradictory statements and a thoroughly confused listener." - Dr Robert Hare

Yep, that fits this case in a nutshell!!!

[Gatordog]

[QUOTE=javahog;9185386]Anybody else noticing how Cindy is making it look like she hardly had anything to do with Caylee in the most recent interviews, etc? Do you think she's noticed the speculation on the blame being thrown at her by Baez and she's distancing herself? He IS trying to get her phone records, along with everybody else in Orlando.

Hey Gator, you been subpeona'd yet? lol![/ Yes She Has! Read On...............:eek:
http://i39.tinypic.com/25z2st3.jpg

Oh my gosh, this is too cute. Poor little Pee Wee has to go to court too. I guess there aren't many people left in Orlando who are not involved so it's logical that it should start moving to the animals. I'm trying to keep moving so that I don't get served. It's hard to hit a moving target :chicken:

Gator

[Gatordog]

Boy, if I was so certain my daughter was innocent I would be definitely combing the earth for the real killer to clear her name. They aren't going to find them in a television studio.

And I would have to give that green sweater a solid 2 on a 1-10 scale

I think there recently was a piece on the news or a tv made movie about a woman who knew her son was innocent so she went undercover into these seedy places and found the true killer and her son was set free. This is what a mother does. Not sit at home hammering no tresspass signs into the yard. Also, with all the money they are receiving for licensing fees (snicker), you would think they would post a reward for information leading to the conviction of the true killer. Oh, that wouldn't work because then they would just put more nails into their daughter's coffin and lose the money.

Gator

[joekuhl79]

George says he's proud of his daughter?!?! REALLY?!?!

I was going to go on, but the whole thing was a joke. The questions. The answers. We all knew it would be, too.

Boo to CBS!!

[joekuhl79]

I think there recently was a piece on the news or a tv made movie about a woman who knew her son was innocent so she went undercover into these seedy places and found the true killer and her son was set free. This is what a mother does. Not sit at home hammering no tresspass signs into the yard. Also, with all the money they are receiving for licensing fees (snicker), you would think they would post a reward for information leading to the conviction of the true killer. Oh, that wouldn't work because then they would just put more nails into their daughter's coffin and lose the money.

Gator

That was a Lifetime movie, I think. My wife is a Lifetimeoholic.

[Gatordog]

This is like hearing Lee and Jackie Peterson all over again. They said the truth would come out at the trial and free their son. The truth came out all right. LOL. The truth that is gonna come out at this trial, is that Cayse is a lying, theiving, sleep around who did not give one little dam about her daughter who she called a Little Shot Head in an emial to her boyfriend. Yeah Cindy your daughter should get the Mother of The Year Award.

That is what I wish that newswoman would have asked Cindy when she said Casey was such a good mother. I would have asked "why then did she refer to her daughter in text messages as 'the little Snot Head'?" That doesn't sound like a very loving mother to me.

Gator

[Gatordog]

Such a great photo of CMA, LOL, It definately deserves a Bumpity bump bump!

Don't know the particulars of their not speaking in CT, just glad they're not coming my way.......lowers the chances of me going to the klinker for whatever I might do there if I went! Actually, I kinda figured they'd show up with a sign........ like this:http://i39.tinypic.com/35jh4q8.jpg


;)

Ah, so they are not going to be the keynote speakers at the convention in CT? It doesn't surprise me after hearing Mark Klaas and NG talking about it last night. Mark Klaas used the term if they "do or do not". He wasn't speaking as if they were going to go through with it. I wonder if he and Nancy had a hand in having them tossed out of respect for the other murder victims' families. What can these two liars and obstructors of justice have to say that would benefit any person in despair over the murder of a loved one?

Excellent report and especially the interview of the Claire Fielding, mother of a murdered woman.

http://www.wftv.com/video/19254538/index.html

http://www.wftv.com/news/19258778/detail.html


Anthonys Taken Off Victims' Conference Agenda
Posted: 7:26 am EDT April 23, 2009
Updated: 11:03 am EDT April 23, 2009

ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. -- George and Cindy were scheduled to be keynote speakers at the Melanie Ilene Rieger's memorial conference next month in Connecticut. However, Eyewitness News discovered Thursday that the Anthonys were taken off the agenda. There was no information given as to why they will not be attending.


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Rieger was a college student who was murdered by her boyfriend in 1994. The conference is meant to help the families of murder victims.

George says he wants to be a victim's advocate, helping the families of missing or murdered loved ones in Caylee's memory.

However, some advocates are offended by his actions because someone is already under arrest for Caylee's murder. Many of those victim advocates said they don't want his help.

They say the Anthonys have damaged the progress made for victims' rights and for missing person's cases.

Claire fielding's daughter Debra was kidnapped, raped and murdered in April of 2000 in downtown Orlando. She and others believe what brought Caylee here is very different and that George and Cindy Anthony knew that from the beginning.

"I want to talk to more people about that kind of stuff. You can't give up. Even though the days get very hard for you, there are people to talk to besides your own family," said George Anthony.

George Anthony showed up in Putnam County saying he was there to help Haleigh Cummings' family, even though he had told a judge he was too depressed to face a court hearing at that time.

"To me, this whole thing with the Anthonys, it's like a big circus and George and Cindy are the ringmasters," said Fielding.

Fielding is working with the Bereaved Survivors of Homicide in Orange County, a well-established group that quietly helps victims' families.

She says she is disgusted with the Anthonys' network TV appearances and their overtures about helping others.

"If Casey didn't do it somebody did. Why are you not out there instead of going on national television to publicizing whatever it is you want to publicize?" said Fielding.


Gator

[One2Snoop]

ah, so they are not going to be the keynote speakers at the convention in ct? it doesn't surprise me after hearing mark klaas and ng talking about it last night. Mark klaas used the term if they "do or do not". He wasn't speaking as if they were going to go through with it. I wonder if he and nancy had a hand in having them tossed out of respect for the other murder victims' families. what can these two liars and obstructors of justice have to say that would benefit any person in despair over the murder of a loved one?

Excellent report and especially the interview of the claire fielding, mother of a murdered woman.

http://www.wftv.com/video/19254538/index.html

http://www.wftv.com/news/19258778/detail.html


anthonys taken off victims' conference agenda
posted: 7:26 am edt april 23, 2009
updated: 11:03 am edt april 23, 2009

orange county, fla. -- george and cindy were scheduled to be keynote speakers at the melanie ilene rieger's memorial conference next month in connecticut. However, eyewitness news discovered thursday that the anthonys were taken off the agenda. There was no information given as to why they will not be attending.


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rieger was a college student who was murdered by her boyfriend in 1994. The conference is meant to help the families of murder victims.

George says he wants to be a victim's advocate, helping the families of missing or murdered loved ones in caylee's memory.

However, some advocates are offended by his actions because someone is already under arrest for caylee's murder. Many of those victim advocates said they don't want his help.

They say the anthonys have damaged the progress made for victims' rights and for missing person's cases.

Claire fielding's daughter debra was kidnapped, raped and murdered in april of 2000 in downtown orlando. She and others believe what brought caylee here is very different and that george and cindy anthony knew that from the beginning.

"i want to talk to more people about that kind of stuff. You can't give up. Even though the days get very hard for you, there are people to talk to besides your own family," said george anthony.

George anthony showed up in putnam county saying he was there to help haleigh cummings' family, even though he had told a judge he was too depressed to face a court hearing at that time.

"to me, this whole thing with the anthonys, it's like a big circus and george and cindy are the ringmasters," said fielding.

Fielding is working with the bereaved survivors of homicide in orange county, a well-established group that quietly helps victims' families.

She says she is disgusted with the anthonys' network tv appearances and their overtures about helping others.

"if casey didn't do it somebody did. Why are you not out there instead of going on national television to publicizing whatever it is you want to publicize?" said fielding.


Gator

amen!

[deacon]

I know i wish the hard ?'s would have been asked but i'll bet all questions were submitted for the Ant's approval-or the Ant's submitted this is what you can ask. I always shuddered to think how Liar spoke to that dear child in private. I was always floored by G stating that when he wanted to retrieve something out of her trunk how Liar beat him too it and said here's your FU..ing gas cans. G was just so nonchalant about it. It seemed as tho thats just how they spoke to each other. Appalling. MOO

Had I said that to my father I would have not only had to pick my rear off of the ground 50 feet away but I would have been looking for another place to stay. Total lack of respect and if she has no respect for her parents she would not have had any for her daughter. She is one I could "pull the switch on" without a second thought.

[NMurphy02]

The Anthony's are probably the most hated people in USA right now for their dishonesty & the garbage they are uttering. They really should go back into hiding. Or maybe they should get jobs! I mean have they worked one freaking day since all of this happened? Are they living on unemployment? Geesh.....they are so lucky all of this happened to their granddaughter. Now they can just milk the media to make a living. Everytime I look at Cindy I want to scream. I honestly didn't like her the first time she was on Nancy Grace saying I don't want to talk about my daughter right now, I want to talk about my granddaughter. Well honey the two are linked. Idiots...I don't think that was a real suicide attempt by George. I think he wanted to get hammered in a hotel room and watch porn. They make me ill.

[NMurphy02]

Yeah this family would not know the meaning of the word love if it hit them in the face. As horrific as Caylee's murder was there is now a part of me that believe's she is in a much better place. She was far too sweet to be in such a toxic enviroment. C&G spawned a socio and as far as i'm concerned created an enviroment that nurtured her into a socio that was capable of murder. MOO

this is how I feel too. The lord works in mysterious ways and that little girl was just too adorable and sweet to live in that house with those nutjobs. She is in a much better place. And now her mother needs to pay.

[Woostock]

beemeup
"C&G spawned a socio and as far as i'm concerned created an enviroment that nurtured her into a socio that was capable of murder. MOO"
You said it all right there. What else is there to say?

[deputydi]

That was a Lifetime movie, I think. My wife is a Lifetimeoholic.
I think you're right. It was based on a true story and this mother did what the Anthonys should be doing if they really believe the garbage they are spouting.

I have only seen a couple clips of the CBS interview and didn't recognize the soft spoken, polite couple on the screen. I don't know who they think they are fooling. Anyone who saw clips of the depo know the real Cindy and George didn't show up for this interview.

The more interviews they give, the deeper the hole will be. Do they forget what they told LE in the beginning? The kinder, gentler Anthonys won't be believed when their inconsistencies are pointed out to a jury. The defendant won't be put on the stand, but her parents probably will be and they will be pulverized on cross.

[deputydi]

No. Poor George, he can't even "own" a suicide attempt.

Like I said, why would she suicide with a Caylee coming back on her birthday? Just by making this claim, I think she made an admission that Casey told her what happened, imo.
I thought the same thing. If they really believed Caylee was alive and "safe" in the care of a nanny (kidnapped or not) why would Cindy be writing suicide notes? That just doesn't make sense. Another lie she didn't think through.

The other night NG was sparring with a psychologist who termed Cindy narcissistic. Nancy disagreed telling the lady Dr. that nothing Cindy has done was to benefit her in any way. I can't believe Nancy can be so blind sometimes. I wanted to jump through the television screen. Cindy may be the most self-centered, self-serving, self-absorbed individual I have ever seen. I think she has both Casey and Scott Peterson beat in those categories. Absolutely EVERYTHING she does or says is "all about ME". Unless I'm dead wrong, that's the basic definition of narcissism.

[NMurphy02]

JVM loses my viewership everytime she has Janie "mouth" Weintraub on. Which is almost every night.

[deacon]

I thought the same thing. If they really believed Caylee was alive and "safe" in the care of a nanny (kidnapped or not) why would Cindy be writing suicide notes? That just doesn't make sense. Another lie she didn't think through.

The other night NG was sparring with a psychologist who termed Cindy narcissistic. Nancy disagreed telling the lady Dr. that nothing Cindy has done was to benefit her in any way. I can't believe Nancy can be so blind sometimes. I wanted to jump through the television screen. Cindy may be the most self-centered, self-serving, self-absorbed individual I have ever seen. I think she has both Casey and Scott Peterson beat in those categories. Absolutely EVERYTHING she does or says is "all about ME". Unless I'm dead wrong, that's the basic definition of narcissism.

That about sums it up. We have an epidemic (sp) going on and it will continue for some time. I really don't see an end to it in the forseeable future. We have, as a country, raised generations of people to believe that they are the most important thing on earth and that the world should revolve and even bow down to them. Everytime a child gets into a little trouble the parents are there screaming they didn't do it or it wasn't their fault. They grow up to think they are entitled to anything they want no matter who they hurt in the process.

[One2Snoop]

Cindy Anthony to detective: Casey must have had help

Amy L. Edwards | Sentinel Staff Writer
1:25 PM EDT, April 23, 2009

On July 23, one day after an investigator publicly disclosed the startling details surrounding Caylee Marie Anthony's disappearance -- and suggested she might have been dead -- the toddler's grandmother left a detective a lengthy voicemail.

In the message left for Orange County Sheriff's Sgt. John Allen, Cindy Anthony said her daughter Casey Anthony "had to have had help no matter what you think the scenario might be."

Listen to the message here.
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/orl-cindy-anthony-voicemail-042309,0,2072020.mp3file

"There are people that know information," she said.

Cindy Anthony's voicemail, which was recorded and turned over to prosecutors, was recently released by the State Attorney's Office.

She left the message the day after a detective testified at Casey Anthony's lengthy bond hearing, in which he disclosed Casey's car reeked of death, and strands of hair, a mysterious stain and bits of dirt were found in the trunk.

Anthony asked that detectives look at other things brought to their attention, including a photo of Caylee that was taken at her supposed baby-sitter's apartment.

"I got the feeling yesterday, you know, you guys have already wasted a lot of time trying to point fingers at Casey…." Cindy Anthony said.

"There's a lot of people out there that feel that you guys are starting to lose focus of finding Caylee. I do want to be working with you guys and I don't want to work against you."

In the more than three-minute voicemail, Anthony also talked about her ailing parents and said she wanted to talk to detectives with her husband George Anthony and son Lee Anthony "to clear the air on some things."

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/orl-bk-casey-anthony-voicemail-042309,0,184066.story

[One2Snoop]

Is this supposed to make her an expert now? :rolleyes:

Mom: Casey Reads Law Books In Jail
Anthonys Give Exclusive Interview To CBS 'Early Show'

POSTED: Thursday, April 23, 2009
UPDATED: 10:20 am EDT April 23, 2009

ORLANDO, Fla. -- In the second part of an exclusive interview, George and Cindy Anthony told the CBS "Early Show" that their daughter was full of energy as a child and now spends her time in jail reading law books.

Maggie Rodriguez conducted the interview and asked the Anthonys to describe Casey Anthony as a child.

"Casey was just full of energy. She was very inquisitive. She loved to read. She started reading at a very young age," Cindy Anthony said.

"Very sensitive, very caring – the kind of daughter that any father is proud of," George Anthony said. "I'm proud of my daughter. :punch:

Casey Anthony, 23, is charged with first-degree murder in the death of her daughter, Caylee, whose remains were found in a wooded lot near the family's east Orange County home. Caylee was 2 years old when she was reported missing, about a month after she was last seen alive.

The Anthonys were asked about their fondest memory of Caylee.

"I don't think we have enough time to talk about it," George Anthony said.

"Her goal was to make us smile and make us laugh," Cindy Anthony said. "She was very sensitive. If I came home from work and she could tell I had a bad day, she would grab my face and (give me a kiss) and say, 'C.C., I love you,'"

The Anthonys said dealing with Caylee's death is a daily struggle.

"We're dealing with it the best that we can. It's very hard, it's very difficult," Cindy Anthony said.

Rodriguez asked the Anthonys if they've fully dealt with the brutal aspect of the death.

"We don't know what happened to Caylee," Cindy Anthony said.

"But we know that she was murdered," CBS's Maggie Rodriguez said.

"But we don’t know what happened to her. That's the thing," Cindy Anthony said.

Cindy Anthony said she has no regrets in how's she handled the situation.

"When I saw Casey (in July), I could tell something was wrong," said Cindy Anthony. "I don't know how I would react any differently. After I made the first 911 call, Casey thanked me in the car because she said I did something that she couldn't do, which was go to the police."

The Anthonys said they want to know what exactly happened to their granddaugther.

"I'd love to know more. I want to know what happened," said Cindy Anthony, who added that she can't fault her daughter. "How can we? We don't know what she's been through. I don't know what that girl has been through."

Cindy Anthony then revealed that she wrote suicide notes a short time after she first learned about Caylee's disappearance.

"George and I are living the same nightmare, but I don't know. And I can't judge George for certain things that he's done, you know? I understand certain things. I understand his suicide attempt. A lot of people don't know. I was there too. I wrote suicide notes back in end of July and August. No one knows that," Anthony said.

Cindy Anthony said her daughter helped her get through the tough times.

"I couldn't bear not having Caylee around and not knowing what happened to her. And I wanted, you know, I just didn't, you know, you get to a point when you miss someone so much, that you think life's not worth living," Cindy Anthony said.

The Anthonys said they do not visit Casey Anthony because the conversations are videotaped and made public.

"Unfortunately, we have laws in Florida where anything is up for grabs as far as – media has access to whatever – so if we go in for a normal visit, it's going to be on videotape," Cindy Anthony said. "We go to our hearings and get to see her."

George said it hurts not to be able to let her know that he's there for her.

"She's presumed innocent. The facts will all come out," Cindy Anthony said. "All we can do is stand behind our daughter, that's all we can do."

"That's our daughter. No matter what, that's still our daughter," George Anthony said.

http://www.clickorlando.com/news/19259035/detail.html#-

[One2Snoop]

Tonight At 11: Why Casey Could Go Free
WESH 2's Bob Kealing examines why Casey Anthony could go free in a special report at 11 p.m. Thursday.

http://www.wesh.com/video/19254149/index.html

[Amy]

Yeah i saw that too and was surprised at her response-lord knows she has come across enough of em in her career. I find C's resonse's in discussion of her role as grandmother and Liar's as mother-they always reflect ownership-like the poor child was a possession. Which in my estimation Caylee pretty much was to them. MOO

Guess that all counteracts the information Cindy gave in one of the interviews to authorities. Didn't she @ one time claim that she was the one who fed, supported, took care of "that child" in every way."

[One2Snoop]

Guess that all counteracts the information Cindy gave in one of the interviews to authorities. Didn't she @ one time claim that she was the one who fed, supported, took care of "that child" in every way."

This is what Cindy wrote on her myspace (now deleted)

Subject: My Caylee is missing
Current mood: Distraught

“She came into my life unexspectedly, just as she has left me. This precious little angel from above gave me strength and unconditional love. Now she is gone and I don’t know why. All I am guilty of is loving her and providing her a safe home. Jealousy has taken her away. Jealousy from the one person that should be thankfull for all of the love and support given to her. A mother’s love is deep, however there are limits when one is betrayed by the one she loved and trusted the most. A daughter comes to her mother for support when she is pregnant, the mother says without hesitation it will be ok. And it was. But then the lies and betrayal began. First it seemed harmless, ah, love is blind. A mother will look for the good in her child and give them a chance to change. This mother gave chance after chance for her daughter to change, but instead more lies more betrayal. What does the mother get for giving her daughter all of these chances? A broken heart. The daughter who stole money, lots of money, leaves without warning and does not let her mother now speak to the baby that her mother raised, fed, clothed, sheltered, paid her medical bills, etc. Instead tells her friends that her mother is controlling her life and she needs her space. No money, no future. Where did she go? Who is now watching out for the little angel?”

[browneyes106]

This is what Cindy wrote on her myspace (now deleted)

Subject: My Caylee is missing
Current mood: Distraught

“She came into my life unexspectedly, just as she has left me. This precious little angel from above gave me strength and unconditional love. Now she is gone and I don’t know why. All I am guilty of is loving her and providing her a safe home. Jealousy has taken her away. Jealousy from the one person that should be thankfull for all of the love and support given to her. A mother’s love is deep, however there are limits when one is betrayed by the one she loved and trusted the most. A daughter comes to her mother for support when she is pregnant, the mother says without hesitation it will be ok. And it was. But then the lies and betrayal began. First it seemed harmless, ah, love is blind. A mother will look for the good in her child and give them a chance to change. This mother gave chance after chance for her daughter to change, but instead more lies more betrayal. What does the mother get for giving her daughter all of these chances? A broken heart. The daughter who stole money, lots of money, leaves without warning and does not let her mother now speak to the baby that her mother raised, fed, clothed, sheltered, paid her medical bills, etc. Instead tells her friends that her mother is controlling her life and she needs her space. No money, no future. Where did she go? Who is now watching out for the little angel?”

More than likely that myspace posting will be brought up at trial and I will love to see Cindy on the stand try to explain that posting.

[browneyes106]

That about sums it up. We have an epidemic (sp) going on and it will continue for some time. I really don't see an end to it in the forseeable future. We have, as a country, raised generations of people to believe that they are the most important thing on earth and that the world should revolve and even bow down to them. Everytime a child gets into a little trouble the parents are there screaming they didn't do it or it wasn't their fault. They grow up to think they are entitled to anything they want no matter who they hurt in the process.

I agree with you. I see a lot of that happening. My aunt was a single mom to two kids. She overcompensated for the fact that the fathers of her children weren't around and raised them to think they were important. Both her kids grew up thinking they were the most important people in the world and one of them still has the attitude today. My cousin is a lot like Casey she basically sponges off my aunt all the time even thought she has a job. My cousin has two sons that are in the early 20's. When her sons were growing my cousin scammed welfare, food stamps and other resources even though she was getting child support. She almost did time in jail for welfare fraud but my aunt got her out of it somehow. The sad thing is my cousin is already 50 years old and she does nothing to support her two sons while they are in college.

[browneyes106]

There you have it! He does look like a fool. The more the Ants talk, the more lies they tell and conflicting statements they make, which is why they should shuttttttttttteeeeeeeeeee. Baez isn't their attorney, BUT there should be a coordinated effort by the defense to defend the client and since G&C are pretty much all Casey has right now, G&C should shuttttttteeeeee.

But WAIT! I want to see Casey fry, so let 'em speak. Oprah, have a heart. Take them back!!!!!!!!!

http://i42.tinypic.com/5pq77r.jpg
Buh bye

I sort of wish Oprah would take them back just so we could see the Ants lie and lie. I wish the electric chair was the only method of execution in Florida that way Casey would have get her head completely shaved the day of the execution. I think an alternative to the DP should be medical treatment tortue basically I would keep Casey restrained to hospital bed 24/7 with her limbs in casts and braces. Casey would be fed through a nasal feeding tube and her wastes would be eliminated through a diaper and catheter.

[shadydaisy]

Cindy Anthony to detective: Casey must have had help

Amy L. Edwards | Sentinel Staff Writer
1:25 PM EDT, April 23, 2009

On July 23, one day after an investigator publicly disclosed the startling details surrounding Caylee Marie Anthony's disappearance -- and suggested she might have been dead -- the toddler's grandmother left a detective a lengthy voicemail.

In the message left for Orange County Sheriff's Sgt. John Allen, Cindy Anthony said her daughter Casey Anthony "had to have had help no matter what you think the scenario might be." Listen to the message here.
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/orl-cindy-anthony-voicemail-042309,0,2072020.mp3file

"There are people that know information," she said.

Cindy Anthony's voicemail, which was recorded and turned over to prosecutors, was recently released by the State Attorney's Office.

She left the message the day after a detective testified at Casey Anthony's lengthy bond hearing, in which he disclosed Casey's car reeked of death, and strands of hair, a mysterious stain and bits of dirt were found in the trunk.

Anthony asked that detectives look at other things brought to their attention, including a photo of Caylee that was taken at her supposed baby-sitter's apartment.

"I got the feeling yesterday, you know, you guys have already wasted a lot of time trying to point fingers at Casey…." Cindy Anthony said.

"There's a lot of people out there that feel that you guys are starting to lose focus of finding Caylee. I do want to be working with you guys and I don't want to work against you."

In the more than three-minute voicemail, Anthony also talked about her ailing parents and said she wanted to talk to detectives with her husband George Anthony and son Lee Anthony "to clear the air on some things."

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/orl-bk-casey-anthony-voicemail-042309,0,184066.story


Why would Casey need help? I don't understand that part at all. It's not like she took Caylee's lifeless body off to some obscure place and buried her 6 feet under.

[Gatordog]

That is so nice for JH. Something so good in her life now. I am soooooo glad the Ant's are off the conference list-so insulting for true victim's who are going thru the painful stages. I am sure the Ant's are still looking out their window at all of us and cant figure out why we are against them. I am sure we are all still the bad guy's out to get them all. I guess they are pretty much right about that but all at their own doing. MOO

Hi Beem, now you understand the protestors. Once the Liar was home and the ants started shooting their mouths off telling everyone at a prayer vigil, which was filmed for the news, "to get off your asses and look for my granddaughter." I guess her a-- was too precious to get out there to look for herself but she sure told everyone else off.

Gator