Caylee Anthony Case Discussion Only

[Native Alien]

OT. Another demon got Sandra Cantu. She's been identified.

http://www.insidebayarea.com/news/ci_12083949

[Mojo]

http://www.insidebayarea.com/news/ci_12083949

OMG. How horrible. Poor baby. I just read this about the kids being scared and the other parents in the area as well. I'm so pissed off right now. Mainly at the judges who allow these sorry excuses for human beings out of jail claiming they are "rehabilitated". Pedos cannot be rehabilitated. If they are found guilty of any crime against a child, they should be drug out behind the court house and bullet put in their head. Save tax dollars and other children's lives. What a sick world we live in today where we cannot let our children play outside for fear some sick son of b*tch will take them.

[Amy]

OMG! While I was watching the video last night and saw her priming herself, I kept saying, "She's nuts!!" Poppa and I agreed we have seen the worst serial killers break down and cry in those rooms. She was having fun with it, it seemed. There was nothing normal about that POS sitting there acting like she was being interviewed for a job as a WalMart clerk.

NG couldn't get a straight answer out of the talking heads when she asked, "What do you make of the video?" There probably is no answer except, SHE'S NUTS!

Probably wouldn't have mattered if they could have come up with a straight answer, if it didn't fit NG's scenario she would have hollered "WRONG!!!!" anyway. So, exactly WHAT is NG trying to say about the video?

[One2Snoop]

Jail Officer Interviews Should Not Have Been Released

Posted: 10:02 am EDT April 7, 2009Updated: 10:18 am EDT April 7, 2009
ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. -- Eyewitness News obtained hours of new DVD interviews, pictures and audio Monday in the case against Casey Anthony, including audio interviews with two jail officers that apparently shouldn't have been released.

Prosecutors told Eyewitness News they mistakenly released the recordings of the jail officers who saw Casey on December 11, the day Caylee's remains were found. At the time, it was still unknown if the remains were in fact those of Caylee.

The officers said Casey heard the news on the radio in her jail cell and saw WFTV's special report, in which investigators found what they believed were Caylee's remains less than a half-mile from the Anthony home.

The audiotapes were supposed to be held until a judge ruled on a defense request to keep them away from the public.

http://www.wftv.com/news/19115596/detail.html#-

[wind149]

Pretty damming stuff on NG last night. Did anyone else know that Tony wore a wire, and taped Lee?? Galls me to know that when C&G got the news they were able to go out and eat a fancy meal??? I could not eat for days had that been my granddaughter, it is almost like they already knew and something tells me that at least Cindy KNEW C was dead months before, maybe even that night and who is to say that she did not help dispose of the body? The dog hit in the backyard, maybe her body was out in the shed till they conjured up the plan to place her in that area? Maybe she confessed to George and that is why he wanted to commit suicide, he could not live with the lies anymore and I can betcha this trial is going to be even more of a circus that OJ's or Pam Smart's.

One talking head hit it big time by saying that CA is not a likable defendant and that is an understatement for sure, even if Bozo asks for a change of venue it will not matter, there will be 12 people wanting to send this b*tch to hell whether that be LWPOP or the DP, either way she is never getting out but ya know I think because of how self centered she is, she believes that Bozo and the "dream team" will get her off and I wish they would release that tape of her getting the news that the jig was up, I want to watch her squirm and freak. I believe that she thought that if she told police about "Zanny" that they would believe that she took C and she would be home free to crotch dance the nights away.

I can't wait to see her face when the jury pronounces the verdict, then I feel that Caylee's murder will be avenged and this is the one time that Mommy and Daddy can't bail her out of her s*it!! I can see her now, being dragged from the courtroom screaming for her Mommy, then I can't wait to hear the sentence, should be an interesting fall huh? How long do you guys think the trial will last? I say at least three months, OJ's lasted 9 months and Pam's about three weeks. NG gets twisted when she reports CA's commissary purchases, I wonder just how much money people are sending this b*tch??? They should be sending their money to worthy people or charities, what are they hoping? Do they expect to meet their "idol"?? Or like that kid, get their 15 minutes of shame and believe that she is innocent and send her his allowance money??? I expect she too will have groupies, sick puppies in their own rights.

[Native Alien]

I sit today and watched the tapes of Lee with Tony L. IMHO Lee knew something was wrong, but he wasn't sure what. He wasn't connecting the smell of the car with the possibility that his sister killed her child. I believe that he wanted to believe that Caylee was alive and someone had her taking care of her.

Tony did a good thing in the secret taping of Lee and he talking in the car. He showed a side of Lee that was about what I would have expected from a brother looking for a niece. I could hear the concern in Lee's voice when he talked about Caylee.

I also believe that Lee didn't want to believe the worse of Casey. I know that my brothers and I are very close, and we have talked about all of this case and what we would have done had we been in Lee's shoes at the time. I think that Lee was just doing the best that he knew how in trying to recover his niece.

[SuzDuJour]

This link goes to PDFs of the detective's notebooks, where you can see their disbelief of everything she is telling them - exclamation points and question marks - it's really interesting!

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2009/04/cops-notes-released-casey-anthony-murder-case-see-them-here

(Following the 2nd paragraph, click on the 'click here' link.)

[One2Snoop]

Zenaida's Lawyers Go After Anthonys' P.I.

Posted: 6:07 pm EDT April 7, 2009
ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. -- Lawyers representing Zenaida Gonzalez are going after the Anthony family's private investigator for missing his deposition. Dominic Casey asked a judge to delay the deposition so he could hire a new attorney. However, he never showed.

Zenaida's lawyers want a judge to find him in contempt and sanction him for their expenses.

Dominic Casey's private eye license could also be in jeopardy after a judge found that he divulged defense secrets to detectives investigating the Caylee Anthony murder.

http://www.wftv.com/news/19120795/detail.html#-

[One2Snoop]

Fla. Bar Launches Another Investigation Into Baez
Baez Accused Of Asking P.I. To Not Call 911 If Caylee's Remains Found

POSTED: Tuesday, April 7, 2009
UPDATED: 6:02 pm EDT April 7, 2009

The Florida Bar has launched an investigation into Casey Anthony's defense attorney, Jose Baez.

Allegations have been made against Baez that he told private investigator Dominic Casey to avoid calling 911 if he found Caylee Anthony's remains.

No proof has been offered that the conversation actually took place, but the Florida Bar has begun an investigation into the matter, to see whether Baez violated any rules. The bar would not confirm who made the complaints, but did confirm that several complaints were made.

"Like I've told everyone all along, the defense has not done anything unethical," Baez said.

Home video of Casey searching the woods where Caylee's remains were later found was released several months ago by Geraldo Rivera. Baez allegedly told Casey to stay quiet if he were to find the body.

Casey searched the wooded area off Suburban Drive three times in the month before Caylee's remains were discovered. Casey told detectives in an interview in January he never found the remains, but if he had, he would have done the right thing.

"I wouldn't have moved. I would have said a prayer. I would have called 911 and I would have stood right there -- if I were to have found Caylee Marie I would not move from that spot," Casey told detectives.

Casey told detectives in that interview that someone asked him to keep quiet if he found the body. Parts of that interview were determined by a judge to be confidential and were not released to the public.

Baez called the allegations "ridiculous."

The defense team issued a statement on Tuesday, which said, "Mr. Baez has done nothing unethical throughout the investigation and as Casey Anthony's defense lawyer. He and his counsel will respond at the appropriate time to refute any and all of untrue allegations."

Casey declined to talk to Local 6 News about the matter.

Earlier this year the bar looked into allegations that Baez was unethically brokering book or movie deals. The bar cleared Baez of any wrongdoing.

Whoever filed the recent complaints signed a sworn affidavit that they believed an ethics violation may have occurred.

Casey Anthony is charged with first-degree murder in the death of her daugher Caylee.

http://www.clickorlando.com/news/19120145/detail.html#-

[One2Snoop]

George Anthony: Casey's 'A Good Mother'
Grandfather Of Slain Toddler Opens Up In Interview

POSTED: Tuesday, April 7, 2009
UPDATED: 11:13 am EDT April 7, 2009

ORLANDO, Fla. -- George Anthony opened up in his first candid interview since learning of his granddaughter's death.

Local 6 News reporter Adam Longo joined Anthony on the maiden voyage of the S.S. Caylee Marie on Lake Underhill and spoke with him about his daughter, Casey Anthony, and how he wants to remember Caylee Anthony.

"I think about Casey every single day," George Anthony said. "She's my daughter. I'm going to support her no matter what. I'm not giving up on her."

Casey Anthony is due to stand trial later this year. She is charged with first-degree murder in the death of her 2-year-old daughter Caylee.

"Casey's a good lady. She's a good mother. She's a good woman," George Anthony said. "I really think what she's going through right now is unfair. She's been tried. I wouldn't want to be tried that way."

George Anthony praised his daughter's legal team, and said he knows how difficult the next few months and the trial will be for his daughter.

"She's got a tough road ahead of her, but I really think the defense team she has, Jose and the people with him, I think they're doing a good job," George Anthony said.

George Anthony also commented on the plans to turn the land where Caylee's remains were found into a memorial.

"I don't want her memorialized down the end of our street," George Anthony said. "It's hard for me to talk about that now. I haven't even been down there."

He said the family hopes to build a park where they and others can pay their respects to Caylee.

"There's not a day that goes by that we don’t think about her," George Anthony said. "The song of Caylee that was sung at our memorial, that's played every single day inside of our cars when we're out."

George said he and his wife Cindy want to assist other families in need. They're planning a foundation where they'll be able to send a group to assist families dealing with similar circumstances.

The Kid Finders Network raised about $30,000 in donations to purchase the S.S. Caylee Marie, which is outfitted with the latest technology, including equipment some police forces do not possess. It will be used as an "extreme" search and rescue vessel.

"You can search a lake this size in just minutes rather than having to send divers in," Dennis Milstead of the Kid Finders Network said.

"We want to be an extension of the sheriff's office that can use the equipment he has here," George Anthony said.

George Anthony said the boat is now his life's work.

"I haven't been working since November of last year. I feel this is what I need to do. It's taken me 50 years to know what I should do with the rest of my life," George Anthony said.

He said the family is proud of the donations raised to fund the boat, but they hope they never have to use it.

http://www.clickorlando.com/news/19115776/detail.html#-

[shadydaisy]

He said the family is proud of the donations raised to fund the boat, but they hope they never have to use it.

He means he hopes to never has to use it to look for a child, right? Cause I bet he sure wants to use it for his own purposes. And they plan to build a park? Ug.

[One2Snoop]

If thats G's benchmark for a good Mother,Lady,Daughter I would really hate to see what he would deem a bad one. :flamemad: And it took him 50 years to figure out his mission in life-No G it took your Liar daughter murdering your Grandbaby for you to finally find yourself.:cuss: I dont think Nawny's rolling pin could even knock any sense into his head. MOO


Let him have it nawny.... http://i40.tinypic.com/2w2fq0m.jpg

[One2Snoop]

Actually, since they by their very nature thongs are wedgies, you wear them to avoid wedgies ;) counter-intuitive, I know, but it tells me Lazy didn't get her laundry done and was likely wearing Cindy's...or Lee's :D

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[lorettalockhorn]

The officer told her clearly that they were being taped. She must have forotten.. I think she was messing with her wedgy back there.. ;) She must wear those dental floss undies.

Hey, I'm happy to go to my grave believing that she's wearing any undies at all! (In some of those new pix it looks doubtful. :eek: )

[Amy]

Thank goodness her reflexes are right, its when she thinks there's trouble.

I was at Target today. There were lots of cute clothes. Casey will never enter a Target again. That thought made me happy.

Didja check out the shades? Any nice, big white sunglasses on the shelves? :chicken:

[mu8shark]

Hi all! I have not been on here much but I follow the case every single day and I have a few comments. First of all, I heard Nancy say at the beginning of the show that Casey suggested that Jesse drowned Caylee in the pool. Then I had to take the doggies out and they were talking about it like maybe they had run a videotape I had missed. Is there a videotape of Casey suggesting that to detectives or did Lee mention it or is it on Jesse's tape or did someone say Cindy and Casey talked about it, Where did this come from? Why is Nancy talking about it like it absolutely was suggested and then a defense attorney on there said something like you don't even know that she ever said that Jesse could of drowned Caylee. So please can someone who saw the full segment clue me in. I have been missing you guys. :rose:

[mu8shark]

Now you all may think I am crazy but I am wondering if there is something to the old daisy chain . I know, I know. I totally pooh poohed this idea but how come Kronk had them search around pavers and D Casey was filming around pavers and Hoover absolutely mentioned the pavers coming up on NG last night and then she was found 75 feet from one set of pavers. Here is what I am wondering, if Casey did tell Jose where the body was, by directing him to the pavers but they got the wrong set, and she supposedly said she ran over them, according to LP , who I know has a little credibility problem, but bear with me. Did a deputy overhear this ? If so , you are not supposed to eavesdrop on attorney client conversations and report back on them, so did LE have to find a way to pass that info on not through official channels . I am not saying I 100 percent believe it but I am entertaining that some info was passed on and got to Kronk, which is a complete 180 from what I did believe. The only hurdle for me is I can't imagine Casey telling Baez here is where the body is and yeah I did it. If she did try to tell them where the body was it had to be done in Caseyland, like, oh Zanny killed her and told me and threatened me never to tell, because I can't see this girl coming clean to anyone. :rolleyes:

[Amy]

Hi all! I have not been on here much but I follow the case every single day and I have a few comments. First of all, I heard Nancy say at the beginning of the show that Casey suggested that Jesse drowned Caylee in the pool. Then I had to take the doggies out and they were talking about it like maybe they had run a videotape I had missed. Is there a videotape of Casey suggesting that to detectives or did Lee mention it or is it on Jesse's tape or did someone say Cindy and Casey talked about it, Where did this come from? Why is Nancy talking about it like it absolutely was suggested and then a defense attorney on there said something like you don't even know that she ever said that Jesse could of drowned Caylee. So please can someone who saw the full segment clue me in. I have been missing you guys. :rose:

NG was on, but I was talking to my sister on the phone, so only saw a few things, like LP was on again. But, in Cindy's FBI tape (probably the 1st one--I can't remember for sure) she DID say she tho't by the "clues" Casey was leaving that Jesse could very well be Zanny. I don't recall anything about his drowning her in the pool, tho. That is the only reference to Jesse I heard, but I know there were other posts about Cindy/Casey throwing Jesse under the bus, but I didn't hear Cindy say anything else--I couldn't bear to watch/hear her much @ all after sitting thru those tapes. (a puke icon would go pretty good right here.)

[lorettalockhorn]

Sandra Cantu was in water. I wonder if the "extreme" fish scanner on the SS Caylee Marie would have helped find her...but then, it is never going to be used, is it? Of course, it doesn't run on steam, either, as one would assume by it's prefix of 'ss"...

The TH that was on JVM or NG said the canal was a biomass holding area. I assumed that meant waste products. :(:mad::cuss:

[lorettalockhorn]

Its nice that his granddaughter's brutal murder is a path of self-exploration for him. Maybe he can pick up meditation, hang with the Dalai Lama, and write a book.

Omm mana padme omm, dude. Those must be some fine sedatives.

Oh, the memories. I lived in a dorm where everyone on my floor except me was Nichiren Shoshu. Boy, they got up early and started ringing those bells!

Shouldn't the Ants work on fixing themselves before they go out and save the world?!

[lorettalockhorn]

Now you all may think I am crazy but I am wondering if there is something to the old daisy chain . I know, I know. I totally pooh poohed this idea but how come Kronk had them search around pavers and D Casey was filming around pavers and Hoover absolutely mentioned the pavers coming up on NG last night and then she was found 75 feet from one set of pavers. Here is what I am wondering, if Casey did tell Jose where the body was, by directing him to the pavers but they got the wrong set, and she supposedly said she ran over them, according to LP , who I know has a little credibility problem, but bear with me. Did a deputy overhear this ? If so , you are not supposed to eavesdrop on attorney client conversations and report back on them, so did LE have to find a way to pass that info on not through official channels . I am not saying I 100 percent believe it but I am entertaining that some info was passed on and got to Kronk, which is a complete 180 from what I did believe. The only hurdle for me is I can't imagine Casey telling Baez here is where the body is and yeah I did it. If she did try to tell them where the body was it had to be done in Caseyland, like, oh Zanny killed her and told me and threatened me never to tell, because I can't see this girl coming clean to anyone. :rolleyes:

It is great to see you, we were worried! :seeya:

Anyway, I was slopping the hogs and missed quite a bit of NG, but my understanding of LP's Daisy Chain is that Kronk is (or was) living/roommates/shacked up with a female jailer and she told him where to find Caylee's remains. Exactly how she supposedly got that information I've either forgotten or it didn't make sense; in other words, don't know if Casey told her directly, or if she overheard a privileged convo. (I don't think there is any audio recording of the attorney areas, but could be wrong.) It's true that LE or The State wouldn't be able to use that type of info due to the "fruit of the poisonous tree" rule, but not sure how it would apply to a citizen.

ETA: I'm surprised that Lenny hasn't tried to sneak in the DC theory now that he's getting airtime.

[lorettalockhorn]

Suz and O2S, thanks for links! :beer:

[mu8shark]

It is great to see you, we were worried! :seeya:

Anyway, I was slopping the hogs and missed quite a bit of NG, but my understanding of LP's Daisy Chain is that Kronk is (or was) living/roommates/shacked up with a female jailer and she told him where to find Caylee's remains. Exactly how she supposedly got that information I've either forgotten or it didn't make sense; in other words, don't know if Casey told her directly, or if she overheard a privileged convo. (I don't think there is any audio recording of the attorney areas, but could be wrong.) It's true that LE or The State wouldn't be able to use that type of info due to the "fruit of the poisonous tree" rule, but not sure how it would apply to a citizen.

ETA: I'm surprised that Lenny hasn't tried to sneak in the DC theory now that he's getting airtime.Actually he did try to sneak it in a few times and one night NG said "Leonard you know I don't agree with you on that and she talked over him." I have wanted so bad to call in and make NG ask Leonard what the hell he was talking about when he said Caseys fingerprints were on the duct tape and yet apparently so far at least the evidence shows this is not so.

[mu8shark]

Hi MU!

What I heard was Jesse himself saying in his interview that he was basically getting through the Anthony grapevine that Casey said he tried to drown Caylee in the pool. So it sounded like Casey was telling the Anthony's, and one of them told Jesse (I bet Lee). Jesse seemed really embarrassed this was even being discussed, like he didn't believe she was really saying this so he didn't want to talk about it.

Anyway, that's what I got over my screaming kamikaze 3 year old.My cousins theory is that Casey chloroformed Caylee and then drowned her in the pool and she chloroformed her to make sure she was quiet and did not know what was going on. I wonder if Casey was setting up a story in case they found the body in time to do a proper autopsy and she was afraid they would find out she did drown.

[One2Snoop]

Okay, so reading the article...the defense would be prohibited from calling 911 if they found the body...does that mean that it is more than Baez telling DC not to call 911, but instead telling him to either dispose of the body or tamper with any evidence? It must be yooooooge for Strickland to file a complaint, right?

:eek: :eek: I gotta go put my groceries away -BRB! :seeya:

[Amy]

Hahhahhahha! STRICKLAND filed the complaint on Jose Baez with the Bar!!!!

http://www.wftv.com/news/19130417/detail.html#-

ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. -- Jose Baez has been investigated by the Florida Bar before, but now sources tell Eyewitness News it's the judge in the case against Casey that's filed a complaint against Casey Anthony's own attorney.

Eyewitness News has learned Circuit Judge Stan Strickland is one of two people who have filed new complaints against Jose Baez. The Florida Bar says both investigations involve Baez's former private eye, Dominic Casey. He's the guy who was at the remains scene a month before detectives found Caylee. *snip*

Amazing! I've never heard of such a thing! Guess he'll be recused...though the article says not necessarily.

PS: and Conway is being investigated as well.

I can see where the judge has to do what a judge has to do, but I sure hate to see Judge Strickland have to go off the case, so hopefully "not necessarily" will carry the day. Altho I doubt for one minute that Baez would let go of this, saying how the judge would be biased, etc etc etc. Unless Judge Strickland has an identical twin who thinks like he does, or a clone.

[Amy]

Okay, so reading the article...the defense would be prohibited from calling 911 if they found the body...does that mean that it is more than Baez telling DC not to call 911, but instead telling him to either dispose of the body or tamper with any evidence? It must be yooooooge for Strickland to file a complaint, right?

The thing is, @ the time Casey was doing his "search" he was NOT employed by Baez OR Casey Anthony. I remember articles @ the time that stressed that Casey's contract w/Baez was terminated maybe Oct 1? or even Aug 31. Whatever date, it was long before the exploration. Now, Casey DID seem to be on the KFN board, and really, it seemed like he was the private eye the A's were talking about, THEIR PI.

So, IF Casey had found anything @ the time, he was not on the payroll of the defense. I remember that discussion, too.

[One2Snoop]

Good! Don't let the ice cream melt! I thought I was alone with this yoooooge news! :D


Hah, the ice cream was first in the freezer, BUT they didn't give me all my damn groceries and part of it was a bottle of "whine". :cuss: Gawd I hate when they do that! GRRRRRR! Back to the store I go - I'll be back soon.

[One2Snoop]

Was it Safeway?! They do it to me like once a month! ttfn

How did you know? :eek: LOL they saw me coming with steam spewing out my ears.... :flamemad: I'm usually pretty careful and check all the bags before leaving the parking lot. :punch:

LOL check this out - the Anthony's are off to see the wizard....

Cindy's the wicked witch LOL!

http://john.bitbun.com/wizard.html

[One2Snoop]

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[Native Alien]

Okay, so you guys remember that note Casey wrote on the affadavit, "crime I did not commit"? And Jose gave it to the court?

What if...Strickland knew from the privileged stuff that Casey had told Jose where the body was, yet Jose put the statement into the record. Would that get him into trouble?

Yes that would get Baez in trouble because first and foremost he is an officer of the court and he would have lied and that is perjury and for that he could get like 10 years if the issue is pushed.

[One2Snoop]

If it was something little or stupid, the normal stuff for JB, Strickland would just deal with it in court, no?

Thats what I was thinking earlier - so this has to be something "significant" for Strickland to file that complaint, IMO.

[One2Snoop]

http://i34.tinypic.com/5zfcck.jpg !!!!!!

Be sure to check out the other ones at the same link - listed at the bottom of the page....

More parody

The Twilight Zone ...........The latest all Squirrel

Cindy Squirrels

It's my Parody

http://john.bitbun.com/wizard.html

[One2Snoop]

Case Against Casey Anthony Could Be in Jeopardy After Confidential Evidence Released

Wednesday, April 08, 2009

The murder case against Casey Anthony could be in jeopardy after tapes of her reaction to news that her daughter's remains had been found were mistakenly released to the public.

The Florida State Attorney's Office said the video and audio tapes of Anthony and two corrections officers were accidentally included in discovery released Tuesday, MyFOXOrlando.com reported.

As result, the public now can hear and see how she reacted when she first got word that the bones of her missing daughter Caylee Anthony were found in a plastic bag in a wooded lot.

Lt. Tammy Unser, one of the officers present, said Anthony "collapsed into a chair and started to do what appeared to be hyperventilating" when she heard the news on Dec.11, according to MyFOXOrlando.com.

But neither the audio nor the video recordings of the incident were supposed to be released to the media until Judge Stan Strickland heard an emergency motion filed by Anthony's defense team, the station said.

The mistake could turn into a significant advantage for Anthony's lawyers, according to local defense attorney Diana Tennis.

"This is the kind of thing that gets people new trials," she told the station. "Everybody has a right to strict confidence of their conversation with their lawyer. Just because you're in jail doesn't mean you have any less of a right."

snip
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,513298,00.html?sPage=fnc/us/crime

[One2Snoop]

Friend: Casey Wanted To Commit Herself
Annie Downing Tells Investigators Anthony Was Chronic Liar

POSTED: Wednesday, April 8, 2009
UPDATED: 7:04 pm EDT April 8, 2009

Casey Anthony's former best friend spoke to investigators about time she spent with the Anthony family immediately after Anthony was released on bond the first time.

Annie Downing stayed at the Anthony family home on Hope Spring Drive in east Orlando for one night in the summer of 2008.

Downing told investigators that Anthony did not give her a good idea of what happened to Caylee Anthony, but Downing said if Anthony did kill her daughter, she would not have acted alone.

"If Casey harmed Caylee, she didn't do it alone. I know that for sure. Casey's not that smart," Downing said.

Downing said Anthony was an overprotective mother to Caylee, who was 2 when she disappeared in July. Caylee's body was discovered near the Anthonys' home in December.

Anthony is charged with first-degree murder in Caylee's death.

During the recorded interrogation, Downing told investigators Anthony lied often. She said she always thought Anthony was a liar, but no one ever accused her of it.

"Everything I knew or thought I knew about her was a lie," Downing said.

Downing recounted a time before Caylee went missing when Anthony came to her with a serious problem.

"There was one time I do recall her basically having an emotional breakdown," Downing said. She did not specify what the problem was.

Downing told investigators Anthony told her she wanted to commit herself to a mental institution.

http://www.clickorlando.com/news/19131357/detail.html#-

[lorettalockhorn]

Thanks for the bombshells!

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So RJ the Sword of the King has hired Cobra! And like y'all, it doesn't seem to me that D Casey was working for the defense when he went to The Zone looking for Caylee's body, but was working for G&C.

Sheesh At one time I had such high hopes for Brad Conway. Looks like the Ant Stench taints everyone.

[lorettalockhorn]

Any scenario I'm running through my head is a mess.

- Remember when JB was insisting on going to the crime scene when no one even id'd her, and it was like, maybe its Trenton for all he knows?

- And DC was on the phone with someone. Not a psychic, I think. Could it be a lawyer? One for whom he no longer had a confidential relationship?

- Casey was shocked, then mad, when the body was found. I wonder who let her down?

- Nejame quit when? Hmm, I wonder why he fled the fiasco...

- Cindy and George at crab puffs when they found out the body was found. And they never looked for the culprit.

Everybody knew, didn't they? :(

When all the lawyers need lawyers, Florida makes a great sucking sound to the south, lol!

Everyone except the people who would enable Caylee to speak to exactly what had happened.

[One2Snoop]

Well, a rock can kill, and its not that smart. But then neither is Annie, it seems.

OMG LOL when I read that part about Casey not being smart enough I was like WTH?

Casey was smart enough to steal from her
Casey was smart enough to make up emails about her employment
Casey was smart enough to make up a story about a Nanny
etc.....

[One2Snoop]

DUH....Could have told her that! http://i41.tinypic.com/voae0x.jpg






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Thanks to Lani for helping!:rolleyes:

LMAO! :beer:

[lighthousedazy]

For those of you who didn't watch NG tonight, Richard Grund said that there are people assigned to go to forums and post to create reasonable doubt.

Anyone remember PeachAllie?!I do and I have a feeling PA could have been LKB. :D :confused:

[One2Snoop]

For those of you who didn't watch NG tonight, Richard Grund said that there are people assigned to go to forums and post to create reasonable doubt.

Anyone remember PeachAllie?!

How could we forget. Just an FYI, she tried to sign up here again under the nic Peachy or Peach (?) and as soon as I saw it on the front index page I asked DW to check the IP to see if it was the same person. Bingo! How original huh? :punch: Not to bright IMO... kind of like most of the players we've seen in this saga.

[lighthousedazy]

http://i42.tinypic.com/2co5un4.jpgSo funny. :D

[One2Snoop]

Have to admit, I too got a good kick out of Strickland going after Baez..What next?! I don't doubt Baez told him(Casey) that...in a roundabout kind of way, eh? This case is unbelievable ~ just when we thought we heard every
convoluted piece of dirt..there's More!

How can Anyone make a big deal about Unser's audio coming out...we knew the details already, and it is not as if we saw/heard the actual thing! (which, by the way, I already had the popcorn ready and waiting with some Absolute :() Does this mean they can now put the video out too? :D


I still haven't caught up on all of the newest dump.. The Sandra story has me reeling..........

:rose: :rose: Caylee & Sandra

I hear you OS. I feel like I'm posting incomplete thoughts because I've been going from one thing to another - plus other stuff I've been following.

Unfortunately I didn't grow up in the generation of multi-tasking LOL and I lose my train of thought or start getting the cases mixed up. But I'm trying to keep it all straight. If anything, I do know, "Google Is My Best Friend":beer:

[lorettalockhorn]

For those of you who didn't watch NG tonight, Richard Grund said that there are people assigned to go to forums and post to create reasonable doubt.

Anyone remember PeachAl***e?!

HAHAHA I guess I might have been guilty of harshing her mellow, but I had serious doubts that Peachallie was reasonable. :hat:

I missed most of NG (and all of JVM), thanks for letting us know to check the transcripts!

[One2Snoop]

HAHAHA I guess I might have been guilty of harshing her mellow, but I had serious doubts that Peachallie was reasonable. :hat:

I missed most of NG (and all of JVM), thanks for letting us know to check the transcripts!

Whatever she was, she was obviously a virgin to message boards LOL.

[shadydaisy]

Whatever she was, she was obviously a virgin to message boards LOL.

*sigh* I was once, too. This case made me find you all! I do remember her - she suddenly disappeared, didn't she? There was another person who was argumentative and they disappeared, too.

[shadydaisy]

This is a depressing update
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,513298,00.html

My worst fear.

[Native Alien]

I really don't see this as a tragedy so far. I don't think that it will give an advantage to either side and I don't think that it will cause the to excuse himself. That would be my biggest concern.

I think that there will be some lip service to the released stuff, which would have come out anyway, and then it will go forward as before.

The bigger issue is what happened to DC that he wasn't deposed and what caused Judge Strickland to file charges against Baez?

[JLette]

ok im so lost, can someone please direct me to this alleged VIDEO of casey's reaction??? i keep reading about how it was released and blah blah blah but i cannot find the actual video anywhere, i have heard the audio of the jail workers describing it but if its available to see i would really like to watch the actual reaction itself, does anyone know where to find the dang thing?

[JLette]

The Casey herself video has not been released, just the jail person accidentally. Its an audio, but the stations turned it into a video by putting a big picture of Casey onscreen...http://www.wesh.com/video/19121003/index.html

grrr lol how disappointing, i saw in two different articles it said VIDEO and i was DYING to see....oh well:shrug:

[Amy]

It's interesting that this sort of thing could get a defendant a "new trial"...what if the trial hasn't happened yet? (I guess things don't usually snowball toward the sewer so fast in normal cases...)

That's what I was thinking--the trial hasn't occured yet. So, ANY trial will be a "new" trial. If this isn't brought up in the trial, isn't shown or referenced TO THE JURY, then it's not a factor, right? The jurors make their decision on what evidence is presented. Except for the fact that the defense will keep this front and center in news, by the time the trial occurs (and I'm not holding my breath on Oct.) this wouldn't even be a tho't in some potential jurors' minds.

Guess one point for Baez on opposing the gag order, huh? Would we have been getting all this info under the Sunshine Law if a gag order had been in place?

[Amy]

http://www.wftv.com/news/19135393/detail.html

It's deposition day for the Parents Anthony!

An attorney said George will be brief, but Cindy's could take quite a long time, lol! I wonder how long she can go without snapping her gum.

I wonder how long she can go before she snaps? I can imagine her getting frustrated and irritated @ the questions, especially if they ask the same question every which way from Sunday.

[NMurphy02]

Apparently George isn't easy to get info out of in the depo...http://www.wftv.com/news/19135393/detail.html

Of course it is..he's afraid Cindy will beat the !$#!$! out of him.

[Gatordog]

My cousins theory is that Casey chloroformed Caylee and then drowned her in the pool and she chloroformed her to make sure she was quiet and did not know what was going on. I wonder if Casey was setting up a story in case they found the body in time to do a proper autopsy and she was afraid they would find out she did drown.

I think she taped her mouth to drown her so that no one would hear Caylee crying for help.

Gator

[JLette]

I think she taped her mouth to drown her so that no one would hear Caylee crying for help.

Gator

reading that gave me chills, what a horrible thought :(

[Gatordog]

ok im so lost, can someone please direct me to this alleged VIDEO of casey's reaction??? i keep reading about how it was released and blah blah blah but i cannot find the actual video anywhere, i have heard the audio of the jail workers describing it but if its available to see i would really like to watch the actual reaction itself, does anyone know where to find the dang thing?

The video has not been released. It is just the transcript of the corrections officers telling what they observed the day that Caylee's body was found.

Gator

[Gatordog]

It was reported this morning on the news that now Brad Conway, the Ants' attorney, is also under investigation. It never ends...

Gator

[NMurphy02]

Now, George, while we eat our lasagna tonight, we're going to take a look at your testimony, uh-huh. snap

So, George wouldn't answer a question about opening Casey's trunk or whether Cindy sent anyone to search the woods where Caylee was found. http://www.clickorlando.com/news/19135790/detail.html#-

Call me crazy, but I didn't know you could choose what not to answer in a deposition? Though I too would be defending the package if I had Cindy's camera on me, lol!

HAHAHAHAHAHA!!! This family is the most dysfunctional family. I know that being under the microscope, a lot of people would look bad. But these people are CRAZY!

[deputydi]

That's what I was thinking--the trial hasn't occured yet. So, ANY trial will be a "new" trial. If this isn't brought up in the trial, isn't shown or referenced TO THE JURY, then it's not a factor, right? The jurors make their decision on what evidence is presented. Except for the fact that the defense will keep this front and center in news, by the time the trial occurs (and I'm not holding my breath on Oct.) this wouldn't even be a tho't in some potential jurors' minds.

Guess one point for Baez on opposing the gag order, huh? Would we have been getting all this info under the Sunshine Law if a gag order had been in place?
For what its worth -- I don't think this will be that much of a problem. IMO the judge will make sure it is taken care of in Voir Dire. The video has not been released and the only reporting anyone has heard simply describes her reaction which we all know (and the jury will be instructed) can be spun to favor one side or another. The tape won't be allowed to be shown at trial so the jury will probably never actually see it.

[lorettalockhorn]

That's what I was thinking--the trial hasn't occured yet. So, ANY trial will be a "new" trial. If this isn't brought up in the trial, isn't shown or referenced TO THE JURY, then it's not a factor, right? The jurors make their decision on what evidence is presented. Except for the fact that the defense will keep this front and center in news, by the time the trial occurs (and I'm not holding my breath on Oct.) this wouldn't even be a tho't in some potential jurors' minds.

Guess one point for Baez on opposing the gag order, huh? Would we have been getting all this info under the Sunshine Law if a gag order had been in place?

Makes sense to me! Hate that this happened; you hear the THs talking about "leaks" all the time, and what they are usually referring to are products of the very liberal Sunshine Law that's in effect in Florida. My understanding of a gag order would be that the parties to the case wouldn't be allowed to discuss the case. Don't see how that would apply to the media. (Guess I'm saying that a gag order and the Sunshine Law would be diametrically opposed concepts.)

Anyway, this situation appears to either be a major SNAFU or a bona fide leak, and someone's going to have to take responsibility.

[lorettalockhorn]

Now, George, while we eat our CHILI :hat: tonight, we're going to take a look at your testimony, uh-huh. snap

So, George wouldn't answer a question about opening Casey's trunk or whether Cindy sent anyone to search the woods where Caylee was found. http://www.clickorlando.com/news/19135790/detail.html#-

Call me crazy, but I didn't know you could choose what not to answer in a deposition? Though I too would be defending the package if I had Cindy's camera on me, lol!

Wouldn't the only questions that you would refuse to answer (logically) be the ones that are self-incriminating? Does spousal privilege apply here re: the question about what Cindy did? (hehehe Something tells me George enjoys few marital privileges.)

[lorettalockhorn]

And now there's THIRD Bar complaint on JB, this time related to the "media" thing and "Todd"...

And if anyone is wondering, the Bar is also looking in to how all the Bar complaint info got out since its not supposed to...

Hmmm Someone should launch a complaint into these complaints!

[One2Snoop]

Too funny!

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/orl-bk-casey-anthony-civil-case-040909,0,6179979.story

Today's Updates 10:26 a.m. George Anthony and Cindy Anthony arrived at the Morgan & Morgan law firm with their attorney shortly before 10 a.m. They didn't say anything when they got off the elevator. An off-duty Orlando police officer was with them.

About 20 minutes later, the deposition began of George Anthony in the law firm's mock courtroom.

The couple is being questioned in the civil case involving their daughter, Casey Anthony. Zenaida Gonzalez, a 38-year-old Kissimmee mother of six, is suing Casey Anthony for defamation.

Cindy Anthony went into the mock courtroom - the place where they are being questioned - and started to set up her a video camera herself. *snip*

What, she can't wait for the depo videos to be released to rip on George? She has to know asap what he told them? What a megolomaniacal control freak! (imo)

Is she even allowed to do that? :eek:

[lorettalockhorn]

In case any A's are taking notes:

(Re: Sandra Cantu http://www.ktvu.com/news/19134275/detail.html)

Joe Chavez said a police chaplain informed the family of Sandra's death Monday.
"When that word came in, I heard screams that I'd never heard come out of human beings before," he said. "Primal screams of love and fear like the worst horror movie you could ever watch."

THESE are normal reactions when told a body found has been identified as your missing child. The Ritz is not. And THAT is why we are suspicious.

It was reported on one of the HLN shows that Sandra's mother had such a visceral reaction that she was hospitalized. The only gut feelings that G&C showed were their stomachs growling. :cuss:

[One2Snoop]

In case any A's are taking notes:

(Re: Sandra Cantu http://www.ktvu.com/news/19134275/detail.html)

Joe Chavez said a police chaplain informed the family of Sandra's death Monday.
"When that word came in, I heard screams that I'd never heard come out of human beings before," he said. "Primal screams of love and fear like the worst horror movie you could ever watch."

THESE are normal reactions when told a body found has been identified as your missing child. The Ritz is not. And THAT is why we are suspicious.

Exactly!

For Sandra and her family. :rose:

[lorettalockhorn]

Whatever she was, she was obviously a virgin to message boards LOL.

I think she's possibly still posting about the case using a similar name. (And getting some of the same reactions as I had to her. :rolleyes: )

ETA: Posting on other boards. Just a hunch according to our friend http://i44.tinypic.com/2937ww8.jpg. :hat:

[lorettalockhorn]

Exactly!

For Sandra and her family. :rose:

So, so sad. To see that beautiful little girl literally skipping to her death is just heartbreaking. Was hoping that the suitcase would lend some clues, but read that it may have been stolen?

(Having trouble getting links to open today, so bear with me; waaayyy behind.)

[shadydaisy]

wow. confrontational.

http://www.forthepeople.com/GAnthony-Depo.pdf

You're not kidding! He was downright nasty. C&G will never testify against Casey - no matter what. I still maintain that Casey is going to throw them under the bus and they don't see the bus coming.

[lorettalockhorn]

From page 8:

George Anthony: When you see someone bring bags in from a local grocery store, you know they purchased them...

Really George? Really??

[One2Snoop]

OKay, so this is the rough draft of the transcript:

http://www.forthepeople.com/GAnthony-Depo.pdf

I can't even pull out quotes its so tense all the way so far! George is at WAR!

Dang you ain't kidding - Such a chip on his shoulder. I got to page 11 with 82 more to go!

[One2Snoop]

I think she's possibly still posting about the case using a similar name. (And getting some of the same reactions as I had to her. :rolleyes: )

ETA: Posting on other boards. Just a hunch according to our friend http://i44.tinypic.com/2937ww8.jpg. :hat:


LOL - got it!

[One2Snoop]

You're not kidding! He was downright nasty. C&G will never testify against Casey - no matter what. I still maintain that Casey is going to throw them under the bus and they don't see the bus coming.

ITA SD. It's beyond sad they've lost site of what this is really all about.

[Amy]

OKay, so this is the rough draft of the transcript:

http://www.forthepeople.com/GAnthony-Depo.pdf

I can't even pull out quotes its so tense all the way so far! George is at WAR!

George certainly is a bit contentious today!!! lol

[One2Snoop]

Caylee Doll Makers Sued By Attorney General
Thursday, April 09, 2009 1:19:05 PM

JACKSONVILLE -- Florida Attorney General Bill McCollum has filed a lawsuit against the maker of the Caylee Sunshine Doll and the Michael Vick Chew Toy.

The Attorney General's office said the company, Showbiz Promotions, misrepresented where the proceeds of the sale would go. Profits from the sale of the doll were to benefit the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children, and profits from the chew toy were to be directed to local animal shelters and organizations. However, McCollum said, little or no contribution had been made to date to those organizations either by Showbiz Promotions, or its owner, Jaime Salcedo.

Showbiz Promotions originally listed the Caylee Sunshine doll, which sings "You Are My Sunshine" when its belly is pushed, for $29.99. They said it was a tribute to Caylee Anthony, the Orlando girl whose mother is now awaiting trial in her death.

In late January, an online statement from company President Jaime Salcedo said public reaction to the doll had prompted them to suspend its release.

"It was our intention to begin the sale of the Sunshine Caylee Doll at 12 p.m. January 27, 2009," Salcedo said. "As we mentioned to the media in our press release it was very important that we allow the press to present our idea to the public first, in an effort to measure the reaction to our fund raising efforts."

The Attorney General’s Economic Crimes Division began investigating Salcedo and Showbiz Promotions after receiving over 200 complaints about the sale of the Michael Vick dog chew toy in 2008.

The lawsuit requests the Duval County Circuit Court issue a permanent injunction prohibiting the defendants from operating www.cayleedoll.com and from engaging in any activity in violation of the Florida Deceptive and Unfair Trade Practices Act.

The Attorney General is also seeking civil penalties in the amount of $10,000 per willful violation of the Florida Deceptive and Unfair Trade Practices Act.

http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2009/4/9/caylee_doll_makers_sued_by_attorney_general.html

[One2Snoop]

George Anthony Deposition

You can watch the video instead of reading if you like - takes a few minutes for the video to load and it seems to cut in and out quite a bit... (annoying - I stopped after 2 minutes)

http://www.forthepeople.com/

He looks mad!:mad:

[One2Snoop]

Questions in civil case annoy Casey Anthony's father
'I'm getting ready to walk out,' George Anthony announces to attorney representing Zenaida Gonzalez

Sarah Lundy | Sentinel Staff Writer
2:51 PM EDT, April 9, 2009

Today's Updates
2:50 p.m.

The 93-page transcript of George Anthony has been released. A reporter is reading it and will update.

George Anthony started off a bit combative with the lawyer for Zenaida Gonzalez. He did not want to go into details about what daughter Casey Anthony bought for the family house and how much money he gave her while she and her daughter Caylee lived there.

He said he had never heard of Gonzalez until July of 2008. He did hear the name "Zanny" from his daughter a year prior to Caylee's disappearance. George Anthony even corrected the way attorney Keith Mitnik pronounced "Zanny."

Many of the questions make him angry.

"Brad, I'm getting ready to end this. I'm getting ready to walk out," he said to his lawyer Brad Conway at one point.

In a related matter, the maker of a doll inspired by Caylee Marie Anthony was sued today by the Attorney General.


1:41 p.m.

Lawyers began questioning Cindy Anthony under oath around 1:30 p.m.

George Anthony finished shortly before 12:30 p.m.

Attorney John Morgan said George Anthony responded to a lot of questions but refused to answer some, including details about an incident when Casey Anthony kept him from looking into the trunk of her car and a conversation he had about the ladder on the side of their pool.

He plans to request the judge to force George Anthony to answer those questions, Morgan said.

The lawyer -- who is representing Zenaida Gonzalez -- was surprised to learn that George Anthony did not know about the tip that sent private investigator Dominic Casey looking in the wooded area near the Anthony home in November.

George Anthony said he learned about this after the remains were found a month later, Morgan said. And George Anthony heard the tip came from a psychic.

Casey Anthony's attorney, Jonathan Kasen, was not at the deposition. Morgan said he was "shocked" that her attorney hasn't attended any of the depositions. He said Anthony had even filed a counter claim against his client.

When asked why he's asking about the crime, Morgan said he can clear his client's name by proving who committed the crime.

"Who committed this murder has everything to with Zenaida Gonzalez," Morgan said. "Whoever committed this murder means Zenaida didn't."

snip
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/orl-bk-casey-anthony-civil-case-040909,0,6179979.story

[One2Snoop]

Ex-Boyfriend: Anthony Said Brother Made Sex Advance
Claim Comes In Newly Released Documents

Casey Anthony's ex-boyfriend told detectives that her brother Lee tried to pressure her to have sex.

In a newly released transcript and recording of a law enforcement interview with Anthony's ex-fiance Jesse Grund, Grund claims Anthony told him that her brother Lee had made sexual advances towards her.

"Uhm, Casey uh, and Lee were at the house alone together and Casey, and Lee attempted to have sex with her," Grund said to investigators on Sept. 8, 2008. "My impression was that somehow he was trying to pressure her into it somehow."

Grund said he was told in September 2005, but she didn't say exactly when the incident happened. (Audio Excerpt On Sex Allegation)

Rumors have long been rampant on the Internet that Lee Anthony was Caylee's biological father. There even has been speculation that the name "Cay-Lee" was a combination of Casey and Lee's names.

Evidence documents released earlier this year reveal Lee Anthony was ordered by the FBI to undergo a paternity test, which came back as negative, showing Lee was not Caylee's father.

But now, Grund's statements might add to the rumors that there was more than a brother-sister relationship between Casey and Lee Anthony.

Casey Anthony is charged with first-degree murder in connection with the death of her daughter Caylee, who was reported missing last summer. Caylee's body was found in December 2008 not far from the Anthony family home in Orange County.

Hear Audio; Read Transcript | Watch The Story

Also in his interview, Grund is says Lee Anthony said his sister and their mother, Cindy Anthony, had a violent fight that led Casey Anthony to leave the home just before Caylee was reported missing. According to Grund, Lee Anthony said Cindy Anthony told him about the fight, which involved Cindy Anthony choking her daughter.

Grund, however, said Casey Anthony never mentioned the fight to him. (Audio Excerpt: Fight Allegation)

In past, Grund has called Casey Anthony a pathological liar.

On Thursday, Cindy Anthony and her husband, George, are schedule to give sworn testimony in the Zenaida Gonzalez' civil suit. Gonzalez, whose name Anthony used for the babysitter she said had taken Caylee, is suing Casey Anthony for defamation. She says that Anthony's false claims damaged her reputation and ability to get a job.

http://www.wesh.com/news/19129570/detail.html

[JLette]

wooow George .............. who p/i/s/s/e/d in your cornflakes today dude?

im reading it right now and im just amazed lol he is cranky

[lorettalockhorn]

Great googly moogly, G&C believe there was/is a Zanny?!?!?!

(Funny he speaks for Cindy here.)

[One2Snoop]

If George was this rough, can you IMAGINE what they are going through with Cindy right now?

:eek: I can't imagine! I can understand him not wanting to be there, but wow, he could be a trooper and just answer the questions. This no doubt will inflict more negativity upon the Ants in the long run and their mission to search for missing children, IMO. (hope that made sense)

[Amy]

:eek: I can't imagine! I can understand him not wanting to be there, but wow, he could be a trooper and just answer the questions. This no doubt will inflict more negativity upon the Ants in the long run and their mission to search for missing children, IMO. (hope that made sense)

And their mission to find who killed their granddaughter. Oh, that's right. WHO killed their granddaughter, finding the person(s) they "knew" kidnapped her, was never their mission. Not even finding Caylee was their mission, being as how they never "searched." IMO

[lorettalockhorn]

LMAO George gets all pissy about the pronunciation of Zanny/Zani's name and then spells it z*a*n*y. What an idiot!

Isn't irritability a classic symptom of depression? George claims to be on the ball, but I wonder if his meds are being monitored.

[lorettalockhorn]

He accuses Morgan of giving him the finger, bad "pronunciating" of Zani's name, demanding to know his last thoughts the last time he saw Caylee (what's the problem, George, was your last thought, "Gee, Caylee looks limp and blue over Casey's shoulder"?)

And did you see where Morgan said he was disappointed that Conway seems to have his client thinking that all he has to answer is, "Is that THE Zenaida Gonzalez?" And George throws out that ZFG's name is not really ZFG? And then the bomb: Conway confirms they are currently being investigated for obstruction of justice.

Jeez, what a nice Easter basket today. And more to come. weee.

Just got to the naughty finger accusation. I do believe George is fparanoid!

[lorettalockhorn]

rotfl!!!!!!!

Who said, "If you can't tell the truth at least don't lie" ?

Dunno, but Delbert McClinton said, "if you can't lie no better than that, you might as well tell the truth. Also good advice!

[JLette]

perjury is perjury whether its in a civil matter or criminal right? so if George is lying under oath here what could happen to him? i wonder if he realizes this could be bad, or if he even cares.

i think he is playing up for Cindy's camera so he gets in minimal trouble at home later personally, JMO

[Native Alien]

I think that Conway ill prepared both George and Cindy for what was coming. I believe that they thought that they were going to be able to waltz in and out of the office with just a few words to a question.

Sad that it happened that way, but if George and Cindy thought this was bad, they ain't seen nothing yet. A prosecuting attorney will have both of them declared hostile witnesses and a judge won't allow them to not answer the questions.

This is going to get ugly, really ugly.

[Its just me]

I think that Conway ill prepared both George and Cindy for what was coming. I believe that they thought that they were going to be able to waltz in and out of the office with just a few words to a question.

Sad that it happened that way, but if George and Cindy thought this was bad, they ain't seen nothing yet. A prosecuting attorney will have both of them declared hostile witnesses and a judge won't allow them to not answer the questions.

This is going to get ugly, really ugly.
I'm mostly a reader but I have to say I totally agree....I read the transcript and George appeared to think he could control what he was asked but after the break he appeared to be more calm. I question if his emotions were all a put on in the beginning. Perhaps he is crazy enough to believe it would give him a free ride. I've got news for him and Cindy... there is not much sympathy when it comes to trying a murder case. They only got a taste today of what is yet to come.
Loosing a child is very difficult and for that I have much sympathy for them but what happened today is the price they are having to pay for going along with the Zanny tale.

MHOO fep

[lorettalockhorn]

Conway is claiming that anything discussed between the PI's and George is "Work product" and therefore privileged because they "worked for him"(pg 34)...I thought only attorneys had privileged work product?

Not finished reading yet, but Strickland did seal one of D Casey's statements earlier saying that they did contain work product. Don't know if the information was from when he worked for Baez, or for the misinformANTs. :shrug:

[One2Snoop]

http://www.wesh.com/download/2009/0409/19141276.pdf

Cindy's up

I know we've asked a million times about where Lee worked -

Game Day, Click and Park, what is that anyone know? :shrug:

[lorettalockhorn]

I'm mostly a reader but I have to say I totally agree....I read the transcript and George appeared to think he could control what he was asked but after the break he appeared to be more calm. I question if his emotions were all a put on in the beginning. Perhaps he is crazy enough to believe it would give him a free ride. I've got news for him and Cindy... there is not much sympathy when it comes to trying a murder case. They only got a taste today of what is yet to come.
Loosing a child is very difficult and for that I have much sympathy for them but what happened today is the price they are having to pay for going along with the Zanny tale.

MHOO fep

Yes'm! Isn't it laughable that Conway claims that Morgan, Mitnick, et al want to harass and embarrass the sycophANTs? Don't they embarrass themselves? You know, the more they balk at demanding justice for Caylee and doing their part, the more I think that Casey didn't do a head job on them, but they (especially Cindy) really did a head job on Casey.

Question to Gator or anyone who reads around; do the Ants have much support locally or anywhere else?

[JLette]

i really expected Cindy to be the more...........crabby of the two today but i am only on page 31 of her transcript so far. probably thought that acting out might make her "look bad" as if these people have any concept of what is right or appropriate

[lorettalockhorn]

I know we've asked a million times about where Lee worked -

Game Day, Click and Park, what is that anyone know? :shrug:

http://www.gamedaymanagement.com/AboutUs.asp

[Amy]

Yes'm! Isn't it laughable that Conway claims that Morgan, Mitnick, et al want to harass and embarrass the sycophANTs? Don't they embarrass themselves? You know, the more they balk at demanding justice for Caylee and doing their part, the more I think that Casey didn't do a head job on them, but they (especially Cindy) really did a head job on Casey.

Question to Gator or anyone who reads around; do the Ants have much support locally or anywhere else?

speaking of support--I can't remember if it was on NG, but the other night, some young female (sounded young) called in and asked about sending money to Casey. One of her questions was, could they still send her money (for commissary, I guess) if she were convicted. So, like the poor misguided teen who gave his allowance, I guess there are still folk who think Casey needs her pork rinds and such.

[One2Snoop]

http://www.gamedaymanagement.com/AboutUs.asp

Thanks.

[One2Snoop]

Cindy's nose is growing.... http://i44.tinypic.com/ea5lzb.gif

Page 19 of the transcript

"Actually I had phone numbers for Zanny at different times and I had addresses at different times"

yet she lied just before that about not having contact info. WTF?

[JLette]

that is all this family knows how to do is lie, i wonder if they think nothing will happen? i further wonder what they will say at the trial and how many years they are going to end up spending in prison to cover their lying daughters ass?

[wind149]

This keeps up he will be disbarred way before the trial and what would little Miss Asswipe do then?? I truly believe that she thinks he is gonna get her a walk and like I said I can't wait for the day that she hears the G verdict and then the sentencing, I am gonna have a cocktail and I hardly ever drink!!

[lorettalockhorn]

Talking head Dan What'sHisName on JVM says that the video shows the miscreANTs being attacked. HUH? They are not victims here. They gave up that designation when they turned their backs on Caylee.

[One2Snoop]

Talking head Dan What'sHisName on JVM says that the video shows the miscreANTs being attacked. HUH? They are not victims here. They gave up that designation when they turned their backs on Caylee.

What video? From the transcripts? :confused:

[One2Snoop]

Well, ZFG just won her lawsuit-against Cindy!

Did you guys get to the last 2 pages yet?!

Q You knew when you went on TV that night that
this woman was not the Zenaida Gonzalez and you did not
clear her name, did you? Yes or no? If you dare?
A No.
Q Thank you.
A No.

pg 139

http://i42.tinypic.com/118lmkk.gif She actually told the truth for once.

[One2Snoop]

videos are up! They are even more awe-inspiring than the transcript!

wesh.com has them I think...

Ok, thanks.

[lorettalockhorn]

What video? From the transcripts? :confused:

The video of the deposition. (Sorry about that!) But it's interesting, because the camera is focused on George and then Cindy, and it looks to me like it's them doing the attacking.

They're whack, and if they don't get a grip, they're going to blow it in the courtroom.

[lorettalockhorn]

Umm, these were abnormal depositions, right?


I'm kidding! :D


"If there's a dog that belongs to Zanny, there must be a Zanny", CA

"If the dog can sit, you must acquit!", Javahog

LMAO Surprised the heck out of me to hear that come out of her mouth. All I'd ever heard about Caylee's reaction to anything about Zanny was confusion. Suddenly there's a dog?!

[JLette]

i cannot find a site besides forthepeople.com that has cindy's depo video up yet and that one is constantly pausing to buffer, too annoying, i am watching George's complete one on wftv.com for now, it says hers will be posted as soon as its available

[wind149]

Any wonder why CA is such a liar?? These two losers lied through their teeth and then got pissed off on questions they clearly did not want to answer, or they try to turn it around so they LOOK like the victims, ya know this would be absolutely hysterical, surely at least an Academy Award, if it was not for Caylee, I am almost glad that angel is with God so she could not be raised by this bunch of ass*holes!!! Just when ya thought it could not get any worse, then comes today! Screaming cursing at the lawyers is going to go over big if this part of this nightmare gets entered into trial evidence ,they just looked so stupid and everything that came out of their mouths was a lie or how they see it ! Today was as ludicrous as when C made that comment about how the police and the impound lot must have put a body in the car AFTER it was impounded, And they have a real hard-on for Jessie Grund, the only guy that probably cared for their selfish daughter and their granddaughter, they are out for blood, and they are so caught up in their own s*it, they are gonna still blame everyone but their brat for the MURDER of Caylee, somebody they claim to love, so what are they doing to honor her? Selling her down the river is what they are doing, forsaking her for that b*tch daughter and they are so dumb they don't see that their actions are not helping their brat, if anything, this is another coup for the prosecutor, future jurists are watching this TV coverage and have from day one like I have and I am so glad that all this is being publicized and shown in the media, it is clear to anyone that this whole family are whack jobs!

I barked when C was telling Morgan that SHE HAD PHONE NUMBERS of the "Zanny" but she never called them and when asked where they were, hell, Stevie Wonder could tell she was lying her ass off, she says she does not know now where they are!! And the ZG in front of her is not "Zanny" How the freak would she know? She never laid eyes on anyone named Zanny!!!! And G getting all shook up, I am loving every minute of this, watching them squirm! You can always tell when these people are getting ready to tell a whopper, they get all flustered and pissed off first, they tell a lie and then invent another one on top of it, and then start screaming and cursing!!! That lawyer is not a stupid man and is it me or is he playing the devil's advocate a tad???

Now today, they are under oath, and still can't come up with a minute of truth, can you see the trial now? Are they gonna get up and curse at the judge and jury when they are asked questions they do not like??? YOU BETCHA!! They are gonna sink CA's boat even further than the evidence the DA has! The jury is going look at each other and take 10 minutes to find her guilty!! I was on a jury years ago and it took us exactly 12 minutes to render the defendant guilty!! Fastest verdict in over 30 years! The evidence was overwhelming, he had a restraining order against him for the victim and he violated it 3 hours after being served and went after the woman, he got 12-15 years. Like I said I would be thinking this was a comedy except for little Caylee and everyone but her family is thinking about her little body in that bag. The night that they know it is her, they go out to eat a fancy meal, it is like they already knew it was her and more and more I am convinced at least C knew that Caylee was dead the night she died and today, her actions in the courtroom, just added to the my feelings, people who are lying and have something to hide get all pissy and usually storm right out just like she did, I KNEW they would, I knew they were not going to answer anything with the truth because they don't know what it is, lies is all these people know how to do and they taught their children to lie and scam and cheat and I still can't wrap my mind around the fact that G used to work in LE!!! They had to have fired his ass!!

[lorettalockhorn]

I Am Speechless.

Nasty. Rude. Mean. Argumentative. Paranoid. Delusional. Who's fault is it that they are involved in ALL of this? Is it John Morgan's? Dear God, why can't they just be honest and answer the questions? I know we all felt infuriated over their actions before, but this brings it all to a new level! George is saying "How Dare You talk about my grandaughter like that?!" Like What? The word Remains is sad, but an awful reality of what their daughter
did to their beautiful grandaughter. George saying Morgan was giving him the frickin finger???!!! What about that? Saying the REAL Z is a 10 and this one is a 2??!!

I'm furious right now, I can't believe they did this, that they are getting away with this, and the only consolation is that they are now totally locked into their stories when they testify in the criminal trial, and their actions today did NOT help their murdering daughter.

Who wants to rant with me? :cuss:

I'm sorry Caylee, that you got lost in the shuffle. :rose:

Well, bless his heart, LP nailed it. That's Cindy.

I'm really struggling not to hate these people. Caylee is truly in a better place. These sociopaths would have done their dead level best to ruin her sweet nature and turned her into a monster just like Cindy and Casey.

[One2Snoop]

There's one 3 minute clip of Cindy up on the Orlando Sentinel site.

She's chewing gum LOL! Smack, smack, smack..... http://i41.tinypic.com/2vjwy3b.gif

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/orl-bk-casey-anthony-civil-case-040909,0,6179979.story

[JLette]

I Am Speechless.

Nasty. Rude. Mean. Argumentative. Paranoid. Delusional. Who's fault is it that they are involved in ALL of this? Is it John Morgan's? Dear God, why can't they just be honest and answer the questions? I know we all felt infuriated over their actions before, but this brings it all to a new level! George is saying "How Dare You talk about my grandaughter like that?!" Like What? The word Remains is sad, but an awful reality of what their daughter
did to their beautiful grandaughter. George saying Morgan was giving him the frickin finger???!!! What about that? Saying the REAL Z is a 10 and this one is a 2??!!

I'm furious right now, I can't believe they did this, that they are getting away with this, and the only consolation is that they are now totally locked into their stories when they testify in the criminal trial, and their actions today did NOT help their murdering daughter.

Who wants to rant with me? :cuss:

I'm sorry Caylee, that you got lost in the shuffle. :rose:

i could not believe their demeanor, i mean, i wouldn't want to be giving a deposition in the middle of all this other stuff either but come ON that is no reason to go in their with the sole purpose of making it as hard as possible on everyone involved, that's what it seemed like to me.

and as far as being locked into their stories, some of the things they said today directly contradict some of the things they said in the media and to law enforcement, so i don't think they care much about telling the truth, sound familar? now we see where casey gets her behavior from

i used to feel sorry for both of them, then it was just george who had my sympathy, but after seeing them today i have finally joined the ranks of those who are disgusted with their very breath!! they could give a sh*t about Caylee, apparently her little life was not worth losing a daughter who lies, steals and betrays at every turn, well they deserve each other, the only victim here is Caylee and it seems there is no one to stand up for her now, maybe Lee will have some kind of revelation before the trial starts, seems to be all we can hope for now.

[JLette]

I hope that's not going to be the new defense: I had to save Caylee from this madhouse. It was a mercy killing.

i believe there were rumors a couple weeks or a month ago about more pages from her diary supposedly referring to the murder as a mercy killing, i sure would like to see the whole diary, torn out pages and all. but that was also a rumor and i never heard if it was confirmed or not.

[JLette]

Hey JLette...how you feeling with that belly of yours? LOL

They continue to prove they will say and do anything for their lying murdering daughter. Like you, I have felt G was being pulled from both sides, but ultimately would do the right thing...Guess we gave him too much credit! He was as bad as C.

Now that they have said under oath the things they have, they are locked into their testimony...What they yelled out to the press could have been misconstrued at the time , due to Whatever. No more.

Yes folks, it does seem that Lenny called C right on...and we can see how Casey got to where she is....they are all the same, the apple didn't fall far from that tree.

Morgan did a good job today, in the face of all that nastiness! and he got his answer!! :beer: Yes or No If You Dare!

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shots for everyone!http://i39.tinypic.com/9svwr9.jpg JLette, the blue one is yours...non-alcoholic :)

i was perusing google while listening to these depos and i looked up perjury in florida and found out that anyone who gives false statements that they know or believe to be untrue during ANY official proceedings would be committing and third degree felony, so when he said he had NO KNOWLEDGE of his daughter ever stealing money from others then her lied, flat out, because they all knew as everyone does now that she stole that money from her grandmother right? even if he didn't know then he certainly knows now, the whole damn country knows for crying out loud!!! so he flat out lied right there, and you could tell he KNEW he was lying and he did it anyway.

:beer: OS my belly is growing nicely now thanx :biggrin:

[lorettalockhorn]

Yes or no if you dare! That WAS the best! She got double dog dared and took the bait...all while bragging about how much research they'd done!!!!

The arrogance!

Woohoo! A new name: The arrogANTs!!!!!!!!!!! :beer:

[lorettalockhorn]

i was perusing google while listening to these depos and i looked up perjury in florida and found out that anyone who gives false statements that they know or believe to be untrue during ANY official proceedings would be committing and third degree felony, so when he said he had NO KNOWLEDGE of his daughter ever stealing money from others then her lied, flat out, because they all knew as everyone does now that she stole that money from her grandmother right? even if he didn't know then he certainly knows now, the whole damn country knows for crying out loud!!! so he flat out lied right there, and you could tell he KNEW he was lying and he did it anyway.

:beer: OS my belly is growing nicely now thanx :biggrin:

Good catch! Don't know if I've congratulated you yet. http://i37.tinypic.com/ouab5y.jpg

[JLette]

Good catch! Don't know if I've congratulated you yet. http://i37.tinypic.com/ouab5y.jpg

thank you :biggrin: hopefully in 2 to 4 weeks i will know whats in that belly

[JLette]

Awwwwwwwwwwwww..................maybe you'll have a whole handful at once! LOLOLhttp://i39.tinypic.com/9ie0y9.jpg

:eek::eek::eek: lmao

[lorettalockhorn]

OS, only caught about 1/2 of NG and didn't hear that, but I'll watch again at midnight or look for the transcript. Sounds great!

[One2Snoop]

I can't believe you are still up! You liked NG tonight, huh? @#$%^$#!!:cuss:

I have been reading Your blogspot (finally) for the past half hour... FYI they call me Evelyn Woodhead speedreader, but I actually almost finished it....so tired now, but I will talk to you tommorrow about it.

You are so talented, your writing is inspirational and wonderful.....I enjoyed it even though it made me sad...
More tommorrow, ok.
Nighty night to you darlin, and Gumby woman, and all you chicklets.


:rose:

:cool: Danaghers been keeping secrets from us? :eek: She has a blog spot? :eek: WTH?

I stopped watching NG months ago - can't take her anymore so I rely on the good people here to report back the pertinent points and I get to skip all the OMG"s, Bombshell's and My babies thank you very much. :biggrin: :seeya::patriot:

[Native Alien]

Cindy has definite control issues and George is just plain stupid. This trial is going to be very ugly when it starts.

[lorettalockhorn]

We were throwing up!

While poppa and I were watching NG we both felt the same way. Awful! I felt sick such pity for all of it. It looked like they were being tortured in a way... ya know? I just kept saying OMG I can't believe this. They were raw and obviously grieving, especially George but I knew who did this to them and to so many involved.

I was disappointed in George of course because he was being a cavone! That means he was acting like a street hood dumb ass with an attitude. He had that, "Woot the F yooo lookin at!" attitude. The sarcasm and the remarks he was making shocked me. As if this murder business was none of any one's business. He was pretty reticent for someone who told it like it was, in the first police interview ????He also struck me as someone who was fighting for something if not his own failure as a parent.

Cindy was unable to control herself. Nothing new under the sun there. She's the one who called 911 and practically indicted her own daughter. I don't get her at all. I kept thinking of her brother and what he thought as he watched it. She showed her underbelly and it aint pretty. Of course I'll give her a ticket for being in some kind of hell but she was fanning the flames with her own hand.

They have terrible legal counsel. He should have warned them before this hearing and primed them a lot better than he did. He's looking at some trouble here in his own career. Watch him end up in the damn hospital too. He and Jose are in trouble and all they did was get involved with these people. I wonder if there is a lawyer out there that would touch this case?

It took me a half hour to decompress after watching those people. They need an exorcism done and fast! It was like watching a couple of heads get pried open and a million bugs flew out! They are so toast!

I can't sleep now.

BTW I loved what Lenny said! "That's Cindy! The deepest cells in Caseys brain,,, Cindy is responsible."

Yes baby Caylee, rest in peace love. You're free to fly now darlin. Nobody can hurt you anymore. :rose:

Sending an exorcist your way!!!!
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G&C are jackasses. And don't you know that Casey will be soooooooo proud that the rents went on camera and made complete and total fools of themselves.

For once ITA with LP. I used to think that Casey did this to G&C, but now I'm thinking that they did this to her.

[lorettalockhorn]

I can't believe you are still up! You liked NG tonight, huh? @#$%^$#!!:cuss:

I have been reading Your blogspot (finally) for the past half hour... FYI they call me Evelyn Woodhead speedreader, but I actually almost finished it....so tired now, but I will talk to you tommorrow about it.

You are so talented, your writing is inspirational and wonderful.....I enjoyed it even though it made me sad...
More tommorrow, ok.
Nighty night to you darlin, and Gumby woman, and all you chicklets.


:rose:

Running late watching NG (so what's new?), but just saw my Gumby waxing philosophical about George's behavior if on medication. I'm telling you like a friend, GA's seratonin levels need to be checked!

Heard Nancy did mention that reports are that Casey's shoes match up with soil samples. Hope we learn more tomorrow. Oh, and love Mike Brooks pointing out G&C's inconsistencies.

[deacon]

Running late watching NG (so what's new?), but just saw my Gumby waxing philosophical about George's behavior if on medication. I'm telling you like a friend, GA's seratonin levels need to be checked!

Heard Nancy did mention that reports are that Casey's shoes match up with soil samples. Hope we learn more tomorrow. Oh, and love Mike Brooks pointing out G&C's inconsistencies.

Well, let's see, that behavior will not bode so well for them when this goes to court. Either case. I can't see a judge letting those attitudes go in open court without contempt charges. Hey, maybe they will get adjoining cells and they can "grieve" together. None of this family is grieving. They have simply fogotten that Caylee lived and are doing the finger pointing.

George is a dork. Plain and simple. I really doubt that George is on meds, if so, he isn't taking them. I am now leaning toward saying the thing in the motel was an act. An act to gain sympathy for the family, casey included, and nothing else.

Inconsistencies are the order of the day and when the poop really hits the fan, that won't fly. Everything they have said to the press and everywhere else will be brought up in court, I can hear it now:

Mrs. Ant, you said "abc" on this date but "xyz" on this date, which time were you lying and how much else that you have said has not been the truth?

[4u2]

Boy, seems like ages since I posted. After seeing Cindy and George on NG last night. Makes me want to gag. I've always hated Cindy:flamemad: She lies just about as much as her damn daughter. Did the lawyer make a fool out of her or not by this line of questioning? Went something like this, so you yourself thought that Caylee was missing as of July 3rd. She says, no, no I thought Caylee was missing as of July 15 - otherwise, I would have called 911 on July 3rd....nasty as ever. Then the lawyer makes her read the blog she wrote on myspace. He says, read the date it was written, she says July 3rd. He said read the heading you wrote, "My Caylee is missing"......:beer: THAT SAID IT ALL. The stupid lying fool:tongue: Does she really, I mean really think that nobody sees all the lies????

[4u2]

Oh, lets not forget what Cindy says about her having the address and tele. # that Casey got her for Zany.....you lying witch :cuss:...so she didn't call it for 31 days????? With her controling attitude, you know darn well if she ever had a tele. #, she would have called it within 2 days. Also, I remember back when the det. were questioning George and asked if caylee ever mentioned a Zany or anything about her. George said no never. Last night Cindy says, Oh yes, Caylee talked about Zany's dog - "so if Caylee talked about Zany's dog, then there must be a Zany"! :confused: I think Cindy needs drugs or needs to stop taking some. What a jerk!

[4u2]

I have a question.....does anyone know where there are these groups of people on the internet that are accussing Jesse gund and his family of killing Caylee? I heard Jesse's dad speak about it the other night on NG?

[Gatordog]

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/orl-bk-casey-anthony-civil-case-040909,0,6179979.story

4:30 p.m.

George Anthony and Cindy Anthony just left the law offices of Morgan and Morgan and appeared visibly upset.

Voices were raised inside the office and Cindy Anthony was angry. Before she left, Anthony told lawyer John Morgan, "Don't tell me I can't pray."

Anthony didn't say anything to reporters staged nearby. George Anthony asked that no one follow them onto the elevator.

Several minutes later, their lawyer, Brad Conway, also left Morgan's law office without commenting to reporters.

Nothing pisses me off more than people who hide behind religion. She thinks it's okay to lie, curse, yell, point fingers, be mean and downright inhumane, but it all goes away when you pray. That whole family should get down on their knees and pray for forgiveness and never get up again.

They showed a clip this morning where Cindy Anthony has the audacity to face ZFG and start questioning her. :mad:

And then, to have both G&C come out with the same exact description of Zany, word for word, and to say she was a 10 and that the real ZFG is no 10 is disgusting. I said it before, all these people care about is beauty. Caylee was worth more than another child because she was "beautiful". Casey should not be found guilty because she's "gorgeous". Well Cindy, look in the mirror. You are no 10 either. In fact your personality puts you in the negative numbers. Beauty is only skin deep.

I think JoeKuhl said it best when he said Caylee was kidnapped by Catherine Zeta Jones. Yea, someone looks like that, has money and doesn't have to work and all she wants to do is play nanny to someone else's child. How many lies do they expect us to believe? Nasty to the bone people.

The way Cindy tore into Morgan was the way she tore into me. Same wild eyes, same scowling mouth and pointing finger. I guess I should be honored that she hated me. Means I'm a good person. Anyone she likes is a creep and a degenerate.

Gator

[Gatordog]

Oh, lets not forget what Cindy says about her having the address and tele. # that Casey got her for Zany.....you lying witch :cuss:...so she didn't call it for 31 days????? With her controling attitude, you know darn well if she ever had a tele. #, she would have called it within 2 days. Also, I remember back when the det. were questioning George and asked if caylee ever mentioned a Zany or anything about her. George said no never. Last night Cindy says, Oh yes, Caylee talked about Zany's dog - "so if Caylee talked about Zany's dog, then there must be a Zany"! :confused: I think Cindy needs drugs or needs to stop taking some. What a jerk!

And multiple addresses too. If I was looking for someone, I'd be camped out at their street until the police said I had to leave and then I'd still come back. All they do is lie. When these lies catch up to them, they make up more ridiculous stories.

Gator

[Gatordog]

Hold on to your wallets everyone. This affects us all.

I was barely listening to the news this morning when they were talking about requests that have come into Orange County for the stimulus tax dollars. That's when I stopped and almost rocketed through the roof. The "Caylee Marie Foundation" has asked for over $1 million dollars to build their foundation. This is your money people. Not for anything but only two children have gone missing in Central Florida and in both instances, their mother was the alleged culprit. How about creating a foundation that supplies medical care to poor children. Caylee was not missing, she was murdered.

Gator

[deacon]

Nothing pisses me off more than people who hide behind religion. She thinks it's okay to lie, curse, yell, point fingers, be mean and downright inhumane, but it all goes away when you pray. That whole family should get down on their knees and pray for forgiveness and never get up again.

They showed a clip this morning where Cindy Anthony has the audacity to face ZFG and start questioning her. :mad:

And then, to have both G&C come out with the same exact description of Zany, word for word, and to say she was a 10 and that the real ZFG is no 10 is disgusting. I said it before, all these people care about is beauty. Caylee was worth more than another child because she was "beautiful". Casey should not be found guilty because she's "gorgeous". Well Cindy, look in the mirror. You are no 10 either. In fact your personality puts you in the negative numbers. Beauty is only skin deep.

I think JoeKuhl said it best when he said Caylee was kidnapped by Catherine Zeta Jones. Yea, someone looks like that, has money and doesn't have to work and all she wants to do is play nanny to someone else's child. How many lies do they expect us to believe? Nasty to the bone people.

The way Cindy tore into Morgan was the way she tore into me. Same wild eyes, same scowling mouth and pointing finger. I guess I should be honored that she hated me. Means I'm a good person. Anyone she likes is a creep and a degenerate.

Gator


Well, what can I say. People like that need to remember what prayer really is. Me thinks she doesn't know the Person she is talking to when she prays.

Can you imagine what it is going to be like when those two get on the witness stand, and we all know they will, in the real trial? You know, the murder 1 trial. I will be interested in seeing if they try to question others in the court room then. They will find out quickly that they are not the ones in charge.:flamemad:

[Native Alien]

I have sat and watched the videos of the depositions of George and Cindy. At first I felt sort of sorry for George, then I felt disbelief, and finally anger at the both of them.

They both sit there, under oath, after swearing to God to tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth and lied out their respective As*es.

Mr. Morgan I applaud you and every one associated with your office for sticking by your professionalism and for staying with the lines of questioning. I give ya'll kudos to the max for being the ones willing to call the Anthonys on their BS stories.

Now we know where Casey got it from.

[deacon]

Didn't she say that 'just because something is said doesn't mean anything' early on in the depo? Gives an insight into their mindset. And the myspace page saying Caylee was missing but it didn't mean she was missing? yepper, cuckoo!

The TH's were talking about how charges for not telling the truth on the witness stand are seldom made in cases. I would think this is a prime case for it. They were under oath yesterday. I guess they missed that part. The conflicting stories at different times would guarentee at least one time they were not telling the truth. I really liked the part about "zanny the nanny" could be a nickname for Grund or his girlfriend. Give me a break, would you babysit for an ex. or better yet for you boyfriend's ex.:punch: that was for cindy

[deacon]

I think "seldom" doesn't cover what we saw yesterday. I was talking to a retired court reporter who said she had never seen the like. Usually hostile witnesses give a dirty look or a snide comment or two, but she'd never seen the outright and consistent combativeness, ever.

What I find funny is Cindy bragging about how she did her "homework" to try and impeach Morgan. What does she think she is?! And hello, Conway...what the H? Did they "go rogue" on you (hi Zingo!) or did you tell them to go for it?

I think that's why Cindy was so mad at the end...she realized she'd completely lost the battle of wits and blew it, not just for Casey but herself.

In a battle of wits, she is unarmed. If you know what I mean. I think her only saving grace was that she was not in an acctual courtroom. Me thinks the judge would have given her a room next to her daughter for a week or two or until she could just answer the questions and shut her pie hole about the other stuff.

[deacon]

The beauty of it is, I can't imagine that she will be more tightly wound in a real courtroom. Did you hear Morgan begging her to stop, even? Warning her? And right at the end, Conway almost yelled "stop" at her! You know, when she really went off the resort.

For anyone who has problems viewing on the forthepeople.com site, http://www.cfnews13.com/ works MUCH better...and it has it broken up into smaller segments. Cindy at her :flamemad: is episode 7. Oh, and she ;) and :rolleyes: and :cool: at Conway throughout...

I just saw the parts that were in NG and the other one before her last night. Made me want to:punch:

[deacon]

Did you read the transcript? I think all the typos are from the stenographer suppressing her laughter.

Not yet. It takes a while to get them here. My connection is slowwwwwwww for some reason the past few weeks.:(

[One2Snoop]

I think "seldom" doesn't cover what we saw yesterday. I was talking to a retired court reporter who said she had never seen the like. Usually hostile witnesses give a dirty look or a snide comment or two, but she'd never seen the outright and consistent combativeness, ever.

What I find funny is Cindy bragging about how she did her "homework" to try and impeach Morgan. What does she think she is?! And hello, Conway...what the H? Did they "go rogue" on you (hi Zingo!) or did you tell them to go for it?

I think that's why Cindy was so mad at the end...she realized she'd completely lost the battle of wits and blew it, not just for Casey but herself.

:eek: OMG! She seriously said that? I think I got to page 30 so I have lots of catching up to do. :read:

[One2Snoop]

I have a question.....does anyone know where there are these groups of people on the internet that are accussing Jesse gund and his family of killing Caylee? I heard Jesse's dad speak about it the other night on NG?

:shrug: I don't think I want to know where they are.

[lorettalockhorn]

I have a question.....does anyone know where there are these groups of people on the internet that are accussing Jesse gund and his family of killing Caylee? I heard Jesse's dad speak about it the other night on NG?

I don't keep up with RG, but here's a link to his myspace with some fairly recent blog entries:

http://www.myspace.com/rjgrund

[One2Snoop]

Cindy To Zenaida: 'You're Cute, But You're Not A 10'
Friday, April 10, 2009 10:18:03 AM

ORLANDO -- George and Cindy Anthony were deposed in the civil case of Zenaida Gonzalez v. Casey Anthony Thursday.

Cindy Anthony started her deposition at 1:30 p.m.

During the deposition, Cindy said she never saw Caylee's babysitter, Zenaida, but she knows what she looks like based on Casey's description and this Zenaida is not her.

"No, it's not undone because Casey's handwritten statement does not describe her. Her birthday is not September 1st. She's not 25-years-old. She's not 5 foot 7. She's not 140 pound. She does not have black hair. She doesn't have perfect teeth. She's not a 10. I'm sorry ma'am. You're cute, but you’re not a 10."

Cindy was also forced to answer questions on her daughter, Casey's income, and Cindy's explanation on a premonition made by Casey that tragically came true.

Cindy’s deposition was a combative and emotional one. Brad Conway, her attorney, said the Anthonys just weren’t ready for that line of questioning.

"The lawyers today knew what buttons to push today and they did," Conway said.

John Morgan and his team of attorneys focused on proving that the alleged "Zanny the Nanny" doesn't exist.

"(Did anybody say to you ‘hey I met Zanny. She's a nice girl?) No. Zanny never came up in conversation other than Casey typically," Cindy said.

Cindy testified that she had phone numbers and addresses for Caylee's alleged babysitter, but never saw her, nor was she able to explain how she would have paid for the nanny.

Gonzalez’s attorney set out to prove that she knew exactly where Caylee was and that it was not with a woman named Zenaida Gonzalez. They said their proof lies in a statement she said months before Caylee was found.

Gonzalez’s attorneys said they may file motions to force Cindy to answer some questions she refused to answer. But overall, they did have one major victory.

"The acknowledgement today both George and Cindy, saying this isn't this Zenaida. This is a wonderful step for us," said Keith Mitnik.

The Anthonys left Morgan & Morgan around 4:30 p.m.

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http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2009/4/10/tempers_flare_in_casey_anthony_civil_case.html

[4u2]

:shrug: I don't think I want to know where they are.

The reason I asked was to find out if it is a forum that I and maybe everyone else here can go to and rip apart all the lies and bull they must be posting about the J. Gund's family. We all know darn well it was CASEY ANTHONY!

How low down can you be to know that YOUR DAUGHTER killed your grand-daughter and now you have to try and pin it on innocent people. .:flamemad: They ALL need to be put behind bars forever :mad:

[lorettalockhorn]

Hold on to your wallets everyone. This affects us all.

I was barely listening to the news this morning when they were talking about requests that have come into Orange County for the stimulus tax dollars. That's when I stopped and almost rocketed through the roof. The "Caylee Marie Foundation" has asked for over $1 million dollars to build their foundation. This is your money people. Not for anything but only two children have gone missing in Central Florida and in both instances, their mother was the alleged culprit. How about creating a foundation that supplies medical care to poor children. Caylee was not missing, she was murdered.

Gator

Disgusting they are. I hope the malfeasANTs get zero tax dollars. Isn't there still a question about how the monies from the other foundations were handled/used by Lee in particular? There may not have been any incest between him and Casey, but the boards of directors most certainly are; the Ants and Mallory's mother, etc. They're hooked up with Milstead, who if memory serves is a financial misdemeanANT. UGH

[Gatordog]

Well, let's see, that behavior will not bode so well for them when this goes to court. Either case. I can't see a judge letting those attitudes go in open court without contempt charges. Hey, maybe they will get adjoining cells and they can "grieve" together. None of this family is grieving. They have simply fogotten that Caylee lived and are doing the finger pointing.

George is a dork. Plain and simple. I really doubt that George is on meds, if so, he isn't taking them. I am now leaning toward saying the thing in the motel was an act. An act to gain sympathy for the family, casey included, and nothing else.

Inconsistencies are the order of the day and when the poop really hits the fan, that won't fly. Everything they have said to the press and everywhere else will be brought up in court, I can hear it now:

Mrs. Ant, you said "abc" on this date but "xyz" on this date, which time were you lying and how much else that you have said has not been the truth?

Deacon, I agree about George's suicidal episode was a stunt. It was an effort to delay the depositions. If he didn't kill himself already being married to such a shrew, he'll never off himself.

Gator

[deacon]

OH LORD YES! When Cindy was asked if she believed Caylee went missing on July 3rd, she said NO. Then he showed her the facebook post she wrote on July 3rd and asked her to read the header "Cyalee is missing" and he asked her if she believed Caylee was missing on July 3rd, she said NO. WTF???

Her attitude was one of entitlement but it didn't work well in court. I was horrified! It was like watching mentally challenged people being asked to define the Declaration of Independence. George pissed me off more than Cindy did because I thought he might have a clue as to how to behave in public. NO class.. I wish he wasn't Italian, I'm embarrassed for my heritage. :chicken:

Can I be Irish? Will someone adopt me? Or Jewish, I love Jewish! Spanish? English? Anything.... :chicken:

I'm Irish, well sort of. Come on over but we have some "not so smart" people too.

There ain't nothin wrong with Italians. I once worked for a bunch of Italians. Now those guys knew how to eat. Great food!

[One2Snoop]

Casey Anthony case
P.I. files latest complaint against Casey Anthony's attorney

12:20 PM EDT, April 10, 2009

The Florida Bar confirmed that private investigator Dominic Casey filed the latest bar complaint against attorney Jose Baez, the Orlando Sentinel has learned.

Dominic Casey accused Baez of advising him to do something other than call 911 if he discovered missing Caylee Marie Anthony. Dominic Casey had searched the area where the child's remains were found several weeks earlier.

A portion of Dominic Casey's interview with Orange County and FBI investigators that may have included information about this incident was not released to the public and was reviewed by Judge Stan Strickland. The judge ruled that it would not become public information.

The contents of that interview has not been released.

http://boards.crimelibrary.com/newreply.php?do=newreply&noquote=1&p=9181437

[lorettalockhorn]

I have sat and watched the videos of the depositions of George and Cindy. At first I felt sort of sorry for George, then I felt disbelief, and finally anger at the both of them.

They both sit there, under oath, after swearing to God to tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth and lied out their respective As*es.

Mr. Morgan I applaud you and every one associated with your office for sticking by your professionalism and for staying with the lines of questioning. I give ya'll kudos to the max for being the ones willing to call the Anthonys on their BS stories.

Now we know where Casey got it from.

Morgan and Mitnik are my new heroes. As if we didn't have a clue as what G&C are all about before, they really made it clear. G&C have a lot of noive going into a deposition, taking a sworn oath, and then lying to protect the likes of Casey. And was it just me, but were they smirking when they weren't exploding? WHACK!! Whack I tell you!

And after seeing the contradictions I wouldn't be surprised to see G&C with separate attorneys.

[Gatordog]

Didn't she say that 'just because something is said doesn't mean anything' early on in the depo? Gives an insight into their mindset. And the myspace page saying Caylee was missing but it didn't mean she was missing? yepper, cuckoo!

And don't forget the "she might have told some mistruths or half-truths, but that doesn't mean she lied". ??

Gator

[deacon]

Well said! Couldn't have said it better myself! Superficial people and hypocrites. I think God runs when they pray. :chicken:

Nope, just shakes His head.

[Gatordog]

Well, Gator, she didn't specify WHO she was praying to, lol!

Oh yeah, I forgot. We need that Excorcist Priest to come in and do his stuff. For this "family" they need more than just holy water blessed by a Priest, they better go to the Vatican and get water blessed by the Pope!

Gator

[deacon]

Decan there is a part of me that thinks Cindy loathes her daughter. If she loved her, and if she wanted to help her, she'd make the jury feel come compassion for her, as do so many parents when they testify. She put the last nail in Casey's coffin yesterday. Perhaps passive aggressive, perhaps unconsciously, but she did. She is totally unaware of herself IMO. If she doesn't get a grip before trial, she is sending Casey to death. She is a broken unit. She can't "just answer the questions" she's unable to listen to the questions because they speak to the truth she cannot face.

It would be more honorable of them both, to accept the truth, grieve their losses and begin the grief because it's coming anyway. Prolonging the inevitable is life wasting.
They have a shot at channeling their grief toward helping others. Not likely.

Them starting to organize a non profit organization that they can legally pilfer for designer pocketbooks and more diamond earrings, isn't the way to go. It's too soon and it's too much like asking tax payers to donate to the Manson family doctrine. "I am the GREAT I am!"

Going shopping now.. I need air!

I really don't think she hates her. They are just both controlling, obnoxious (sp) b's. And I reserve that particular name for just certain people. Honorable, truthful? I don't think any of them know the meaning of those words. And they still believe that they are sooooooo smart that they will get away with it. When they don't, then the book comes out about how casey was treated unfairly. Who knows.

[4u2]

OH LORD YES! When Cindy was asked if she believed Caylee went missing on July 3rd, she said NO. Then he showed her the facebook post she wrote on July 3rd and asked her to read the header "Cyalee is missing" and he asked her if she believed Caylee was missing on July 3rd, she said NO. WTF???

Her attitude was one of entitlement but it didn't work well in court. I was horrified! It was like watching mentally challenged people being asked to define the Declaration of Independence. George pissed me off more than Cindy did because I thought he might have a clue as to how to behave in public. NO class.. I wish he wasn't Italian, I'm embarrassed for my heritage. :chicken:

Can I be Irish? Will someone adopt me? Or Jewish, I love Jewish! Spanish? English? Anything.... :chicken:

OK Danagher, I adopt you as Irish. I am Irish and Italian. George is not like most Italians I know. I think he was born with no balls. I think that entire act was for Cindy. She probably warned him if he gets whiney or soft he would be hearing from her when he got home...he decided it was better to look like a complete ass ...than have his ass get beat by Cindy afterwards.

[One2Snoop]

Casey Anthony case
Rocky day for Casey Anthony's parents

By Sarah Lundy | Sentinel staff writer
April 10, 2009

Casey Anthony's parents appeared combative and threatened to walk out Thursday while being questioned separately under oath in the defamation case against their daughter.

Tension dominated the five hours of videotaped questioning conducted behind closed doors at the Orlando offices of the Morgan & Morgan law firm.

"I'm giving Mr. Morgan what he wants. He wants a friggin' TV show," said Cindy Anthony during her three-hour interview. "We're getting it. You know, this is all he wants. This is why we're here today."

At the end, Cindy Anthony walked out of the firm's mock courtroom looking upset. Minutes before, reporters had heard raised voices inside.

Anthony turned back to attorney John Morgan and told him, "Don't tell me I can't pray."

Morgan said afterward he did not know what sparked that comment.

Anthony did not explain. Her husband, George Anthony, escorted his wife to the elevators, asking that no one follow them out.

Transcripts and video released afterward by Morgan made Thursday appear to be a rocky day for everyone involved. George Anthony lashed out emotionally at attorneys Keith Mitnik and Morgan for asking questions about his daughter Casey, who is charged with killing the couple's only granddaughter.

"When you say you sympathize and all that kind of stuff, you don't give — anything about me," Anthony said as he threatened to leave during his two-hour interview. "You don't care. I hope you never have to go through what I've had to go through."

The Morgan firm represents Zenaida Gonzalez, a 38-year-old Kissimmee mother of six. She is suing Casey Anthony, who told investigators that a baby sitter named Zenaida Fernandez-Gonzalez — also known as "Zanny" — abducted 2-year-old Caylee Marie in June.

The toddler's skeletal remains were found Dec. 11 in woods less than a mile from the Anthony home in east Orange County. Casey Anthony, 23, is charged with first-degree murder.

After Thursday's questioning, the couple's lawyer, Brad Conway, said most of it focused on the criminal case and had little to do with clearing Gonzalez's name.

"I think it just exacerbates the circus-like atmosphere that has surrounded this case from the beginning," he said.

Conway asserted that Morgan's primary goal was to get attention, and that his questions were designed to provoke the grandparents.

"The questions were designed to evoke emotion. They did," Conway said.

Both Cindy and George Anthony said the woman suing their daughter is not the Zenaida Fernandez-Gonzalez described by their daughter. They said they think that person is still out there.

Morgan said George Anthony responded to a lot of questions but refused to answer some, including details about an incident in which his daughter kept him from looking in the trunk of her car and a conversation he had about the ladder on the side of their backyard pool.

Cindy Anthony refused to talk about whether her daughter, who also is charged with check fraud, took any credit cards without permission.

Morgan was surprised to learn that the couple did not know about the tip that sent private investigator Dominic Casey looking in the woods near the Anthony home in November. They learned about it in December — after Caylee's remains were found in the area.

The investigator, who met the couple through Casey Anthony's attorney, José Baez, has worked for the family since November. However, no money has been exchanged, George Anthony said.

Before the remains were found, he helped the family look for Caylee and for the baby sitter, Cindy Anthony said.

George Anthony said he searched for Caylee but didn't look for anyone named Zenaida Gonzalez or Zanny.

When asked why, he just said he did not and he didn't have to "give a specific answer."

Casey Anthony's attorney in the civil matter, Jonathan Kasen, was not at the deposition. Morgan said he was "shocked" that her attorney hasn't attended any of the depositions.

When asked why many of his questions concerned Caylee's disappearance, Morgan said he can clear his client's name by showing who killed the child.

"Who committed this murder has everything to do with Zenaida Gonzalez," he said.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/caylee-anthony/orl-loc-casey-anthony-041009,0,7488580.story

[deacon]

Yes i think that they are indicating where the defense is going to go-Zanny the Nanny is just a general blanket term for whomever was watching Caylee. Not sure who they will try to throw under the bus-my guess would be the one who has the least accountability on specific time frames. I cant wait till all the really good hard evidence comes out. That whole family is friggin nuts. I didn't realize Mallory's mother was connected to kidfinder's. Guess that splains why Mallory is still in the picture. Most sensible young women would run from being a part of this sick dynamic they call a family. MOO

Only problem with that defense is that they named her by her name in the beginning. Not just zanny the nanny. Amazing how your words come back to bite you in the rear end sometimes, doesn't it?

[Gatordog]

The beauty of it is, I can't imagine that she will be more tightly wound in a real courtroom. Did you hear Morgan begging her to stop, even? Warning her? And right at the end, Conway almost yelled "stop" at her! You know, when she really went off the resort.

For anyone who has problems viewing on the forthepeople.com site, http://www.cfnews13.com/ works MUCH better...and it has it broken up into smaller segments. Cindy at her :flamemad: is episode 7. Oh, and she ;) and :rolleyes: and :cool: at Conway throughout...

Java, that's exactly how she is. I tried and tried to talk to her and she ranted, raved and yelled at me insisted that I "wanted" Caylee to be dead. I turned to George and said, "She doesn't stop - she doesn't listen. You can't get through to her". He shook his head and walked away.

How did you like when at the end, George told her to shut up and she yelled back "don't tell me to shut up, you shut up". http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-laughing011.gif (http://www.freesmileys.org)

Gator

[One2Snoop]

I don't keep up with RG, but here's a link to his myspace with some fairly recent blog entries:

http://www.myspace.com/rjgrund

The reason I asked was to find out if it is a forum that I and maybe everyone else here can go to and rip apart all the lies and bull they must be posting about the J. Gund's family. We all know darn well it was CASEY ANTHONY!

How low down can you be to know that YOUR DAUGHTER killed your grand-daughter and now you have to try and pin it on innocent people. .:flamemad: They ALL need to be put behind bars forever :mad:

I honestly don't know where those places are. Loretta posted Richard Grunds myspace - maybe the info is posted there.

[Gatordog]

OK Danagher, I adopt you as Irish. I am Irish and Italian. George is not like most Italians I know. I think he was born with no balls. I think that entire act was for Cindy. She probably warned him if he gets whiney or soft he would be hearing from her when he got home...he decided it was better to look like a complete ass ...than have his ass get beat by Cindy afterwards.

You know, I can just imagine them sitting on the couch last night, with a bowl of popcorn, watching their videotaped deposition. George would be terribly embarrassed but I bet Cindy thinks she did a great job of giving it to them and being so aggressive. When she started questioning Morgan and then turned to ZFG to question her, that was too much. She should be ashamed but she has no moral compass. If she truly believes that her lying daughter is innocent, why then has she not stated that she wants Caylee's killer to pay for their crime? That the person who killed their baby girl, needs to be put to death? That's what I would say. That's what Sandra Cantu's family is saying. That is what Mark Klass and Mark Lundsford said. No, they havn't said that because they know who killed Caylee.

Gator

[Gatordog]

I think he was born with them. Let's just say, I don't think it's CAYLEE'S CREMAINS in that locket she keeps wearing. :biggrin:

Where's that Ewww sign?

Gator ;)

[lorettalockhorn]

Yes i think that they are indicating where the defense is going to go-Zanny the Nanny is just a general blanket term for whomever was watching Caylee. Not sure who they will try to throw under the bus-my guess would be the one who has the least accountability on specific time frames. I cant wait till all the really good hard evidence comes out. That whole family is friggin nuts. I didn't realize Mallory's mother was connected to kidfinder's. Guess that splains why Mallory is still in the picture. Most sensible young women would run from being a part of this sick dynamic they call a family. MOO

Don't know that Mallory's mother is connected to KF, but she is or was the treasurer for the other Caylee foundation.

Speaking of Zanny the Nanny, did anyone think it was nuts that George spelled her name Zany? As in clownish? Is that what his smirks were all about? That he was making some sort of inane and hypocritical joke while lambasting Morgan about how he was "pronunciating" Zanny?

[deacon]

For sure-I just have this feeling they will pull some stupid azzz reason out of a hat :hat:

They may, but if I can see through that story so can the other average people out there. I ain't that smart.:eek:

[One2Snoop]

Cindy Anthony Fires Back During Deposition
Casey Anthony's Parents Questioned In Civil Suit

POSTED: 9:21 am EDT April 10, 2009
UPDATED: 10:02 am EDT April 10, 2009

snip...

Attorneys for Gonzalez said answers were hard to come by, and they called the parents combative from the beginning.

* John Dill: Who lived there during the time period -- let's say about March or April of last year?
* Cindy Anthony: Explain to me the relevance of the question regarding the civil lawsuit with Zenaida Fernandez-Gonzalez, please?

It was clear from the start that Cindy Anthony wanted attorneys to know she believes the Gonzalez suing her daughter for defamation isn't the same woman who Casey Anthony claimed took her daughter, Caylee Anthony.

But attorneys John Morgan and Dill wondered how Cindy Anthony would even know if she never met the nanny and had never seen a picture of her. They wondered if she even had a phone number for the woman who had been watching her granddaughter.

* Cindy Anthony: Actually, I had phone numbers for Zanny at different times, and I had addresses at different times.
* John Dill: Why don't you tell me the phone number.
* Cindy Anthony: I don't have it now.

Casey Anthony is charged with first-degree murder in connection with the death of Caylee, who was reported missing last summer. Caylee's body was found in December 2008 not far from the Anthony family home in Orange County.

The questioning was also emotional for George Anthony, when attorneys asked about the days before his granddaughter's disappearance after Father's Day in June and when Casey Anthony resurfaced one month later without Caylee.

* George Anthony: I'm not going to discuss the last day with my granddaughter, the last thought I had of her, the last time I saw her.
* John Morgan: I didn't ask your last thought.
* George Anthony: Yes you did. Yes you did. You asked me what the last thing I ... don't do that to me, sir.

Cindy Anthony faced similar questions.

"I have no idea, and I'm not going to speculate on where my daughter was. I'm not going to speculate, and you shouldn't either. You don't have a crystal ball," Cindy Anthony said. :rolleyes:

Attorneys also questioned Cindy Anthony about the search for Caylee, and about an incident when Casey Anthony told her family she believed the toddler was nearby.

* John Morgan: There was a time when Casey was saying, at jail or at home, "I feel like she's close. I feel like Caylee is close to home." Do you remember that?
* Cindy Anthony: I remember what she said.
* John Morgan: It turns out she was right, wasn't she?
* Cindy Anthony: Well, people heard that.
* John Morgan: That's a yes or no. It turns out Casey was right when she said, "I feel like ... "
* Cindy Anthony: Yes.
* John Morgan:"Caylee is close."
* Cindy Anthony: Yes, and someone probably heard that and put Caylee's body there after the fact. :rolleyes:

"Someone probably heard that and put Caylee's body there after the fact."
- Cindy Anthony

Cindy Anthony said the family's private investigator searched the woods near their home in November based on a tip from a psychic, and the body wasn't there at that time.

Her volatile 2.5 hours of testimony turned explosive when she turned the table and questioned Gonzalez about why she signed her name C. Zenaida Gonzalez in June instead of Zenaida Fernandez Gonzalez, trying to prove the woman in the civil suit isn't the person Casey Anthony named.

* Cindy Anthony: Where does the Fernandez come in?
* John Morgan: Let me tell you.
* Cindy Anthony: Casey gave that.
* John Morgan: Let me say this to you.
* Cindy Anthony: So there you go, Mr. Morgan. Where did she get the Fernandez? Where did you get the Fernandez? Why don't you tell the camera and all the viewers out there where Fernandez came from?

Morgan said he believes Cindy Anthony could have come out sooner to clear Gonzalez' name.

George Anthony did shake her hand and said he was sorry she had to go through this.

The Anthonys didn't answer every question, so a judge could force them to testify again.

http://www.wesh.com/news/19146552/detail.html

[lorettalockhorn]

Java, that's exactly how she is. I tried and tried to talk to her and she ranted, raved and yelled at me insisted that I "wanted" Caylee to be dead. I turned to George and said, "She doesn't stop - she doesn't listen. You can't get through to her". He shook his head and walked away.

How did you like when at the end, George told her to shut up and she yelled back "don't tell me to shut up, you shut up". http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-laughing011.gif (http://www.freesmileys.org)

Gator

That was probably great insight into the atmosphere of the psychofANT home. The language and attitude that we saw yesterday was probably what Caylee was exposed to every time there was a difference of opinion or any of the tyrANTs thought they were losing control.

[lorettalockhorn]

Did you see right at the end when Cindy was ranting about "C. Zenaida Gonzale" that she turned to Conway and gave a theatrical WINK! Like, see, I did it. I have just realized that Baez may be doing one intelligent thing: He is not allowing contact of any kind between Casey and the Anthony's. That way, he can impeach anything they have said since they have told 4 versions of each story, and the jury will have the option to accept NONE of their testimony of any kind. By allowing no contact, he can say, we have no idea what these nut-jobs are talking about.

They think they are helping her, and ironically, they might be helping her by being such rude idiots. Am I right?

Righteo! Like Casey, G&C seem to be scrambling for any truth that might be believable. I think G&C will be called to testify, but I think they'll be impeached by The State long before Baez gets hold of them. The jury will just think the nut don't fall far from the tree and will focus on the fact that no one reported Caylee missing or searched for her OR ZFG, not even Cindy will all those phone numbers and addresses. And like us, they will believe the forensic evidence.

[Gatordog]

Did you see right at the end when Cindy was ranting about "C. Zenaida Gonzale" that she turned to Conway and gave a theatrical WINK! Like, see, I did it. I have just realized that Baez may be doing one intelligent thing: He is not allowing contact of any kind between Casey and the Anthony's. That way, he can impeach anything they have said since they have told 4 versions of each story, and the jury will have the option to accept NONE of their testimony of any kind. By allowing no contact, he can say, we have no idea what these nut-jobs are talking about.

They think they are helping her, and ironically, they might be helping her by being such rude idiots. Am I right?

You are right.

I can just imagine Casey on the stand stating that her mother has this horrible, volent temper and tried to kill her on June 15th so she ran out of the house. She left Caylee with her. When she came home, Caylee wasn't in the house and Cindy warned her not to say anything or she'll kill her too. Casey will say her mother told her to lie. Don't forget, Cindy first called the police about her car being missing. Then when they realized the police may question where's the baby, they had to come up with a story real quick. Boy oh boy, after this deposition, Cindy gave Bozo the rope to hang her.

And, let's not forget that Moaning Lee stated to Tony Lazzaro that the purse, computer, everything Casey had belonged to her mother. Now, Cindy is a nurse and knows all about using cholorform and its results. I can see Bozo smiling like a hyena now in his closing arguements - reasonable doubt.

Gator

[4u2]

Don't know that Mallory's mother is connected to KF, but she is or was the treasurer for the other Caylee foundation.

Speaking of Zanny the Nanny, did anyone think it was nuts that George spelled her name Zany? As in clownish? Is that what his smirks were all about? That he was making some sort of inane and hypocritical joke while lambasting Morgan about how he was "pronunciating" Zanny?
Loretta, if you think that was crazy, what did you think when G accused Morgan of flipping him the bird :eek: As mad as I was watching these losers, I couldn't stop laughing. G and C are not use to dealing with professional people and can only understand and see nothing but low life gestures and statements. What a joke:rolleyes:

[deacon]

After that set of performances, I think that Cindy knew in the first 12 hours...certainly by the time she did the laundry. I wonder if she thought to soak the shoe soles in bleach? I hope not.

I wonder if George knew sooner. If he smelled the trunk on the "effing gas cans" incident. I used to feel sorry for George, but now I think maybe his haplessness is the result of culpability.

Wow, these depos hurt them...


Must not have, there was a rumor last night on NG that there was evidence found on her shoes that would put her at the dump site.:eek:

[lorettalockhorn]

You are right.

I can just imagine Casey on the stand stating that her mother has this horrible, volent temper and tried to kill her on June 15th so she ran out of the house. She left Caylee with her. When she came home, Caylee wasn't in the house and Cindy warned her not to say anything or she'll kill her too. Casey will say her mother told her to lie. Don't forget, Cindy first called the police about her car being missing. Then when they realized the police may question where's the baby, they had to come up with a story real quick. Boy oh boy, after this deposition, Cindy gave Bozo the rope to hang her.

And, let's not forget that Moaning Lee stated to Tony Lazzaro that the purse, computer, everything Casey had belonged to her mother. Now, Cindy is a nurse and knows all about using cholorform and its results. I can see Bozo smiling like a hyena now in his closing arguements - reasonable doubt.

Gator

You know what? It's so crazy. So twisty and turny that I can see it happening!

[Gatordog]

* John Morgan: There was a time when Casey was saying, at jail or at home, "I feel like she's close. I feel like Caylee is close to home." Do you remember that?
* Cindy Anthony: I remember what she said.
* John Morgan: It turns out she was right, wasn't she?
* Cindy Anthony: Well, people heard that.
* John Morgan: That's a yes or no. It turns out Casey was right when she said, "I feel like ... "
* Cindy Anthony: Yes.
* John Morgan:"Caylee is close."
* Cindy Anthony: Yes, and someone probably heard that and put Caylee's body there after the fact.

"Someone probably heard that and put Caylee's body there after the fact."
- Cindy Anthony
------------------------------------------------

Yeah right. The neighborhood was basically under police surveillance 24/7. Any car on Suburban would be noticed while the school is closed because there is nothing on Suburban but a dead end at the school. A neighbor spotted the Liar's car on Suburban after the summer break started. No other cars were spotted there. How about that Cindy? Did the killer go out and find a car just like your's so they could drive it around your neighborhood.

Gee, she thinks everyone in the world is stupid but she's a genius. :punch:

gator

[browneyes106]

Hi everyone sorry I haven't been posting here lately. But I have been keeping up the case through NG and online sites. I too was disgusted seeing Cindy and George on NG last night at the depositions. George looked a total tool pushing Brad Conway in his wheelchair.

[lorettalockhorn]

Loretta, if you think that was crazy, what did you think when G accused Morgan of flipping him the bird :eek: As mad as I was watching these losers, I couldn't stop laughing. G and C are not use to dealing with professional people and can only understand and see nothing but low life gestures and statements. What a joke:rolleyes:

HAHAHA I cracked up when Morgan said that from now on he'd use his pinkie. I flashed back to George's Finger Family analogy. :hat:

[browneyes106]

You are right.

I can just imagine Casey on the stand stating that her mother has this horrible, volent temper and tried to kill her on June 15th so she ran out of the house. She left Caylee with her. When she came home, Caylee wasn't in the house and Cindy warned her not to say anything or she'll kill her too. Casey will say her mother told her to lie. Don't forget, Cindy first called the police about her car being missing. Then when they realized the police may question where's the baby, they had to come up with a story real quick. Boy oh boy, after this deposition, Cindy gave Bozo the rope to hang her.

And, let's not forget that Moaning Lee stated to Tony Lazzaro that the purse, computer, everything Casey had belonged to her mother. Now, Cindy is a nurse and knows all about using cholorform and its results. I can see Bozo smiling like a hyena now in his closing arguements - reasonable doubt.

Gator

I remember reading about how Lee said that the computer and some of the stuff Casey had actually belonged to Cindy. He also said that it was pretty common for Casey to claim Cindy's belongings as hers. I could see Bozo bringing up the fact that the laptop belonged to Cindy.

[4u2]

Must not have, there was a rumor last night on NG that there was evidence found on her shoes that would put her at the dump site.:eek:
Oh boy, can't wait for that bomb to explode:D:D:D

[Gatordog]

I finally have transportation again. I had to buy a new car after my transmission went two weeks ago. I absolutely love it. Went from a 1995 to a 2008. :beer: I'll be able to check on the sunflowers this weekend.

Gator

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[browneyes106]

Hold on to your wallets everyone. This affects us all.

I was barely listening to the news this morning when they were talking about requests that have come into Orange County for the stimulus tax dollars. That's when I stopped and almost rocketed through the roof. The "Caylee Marie Foundation" has asked for over $1 million dollars to build their foundation. This is your money people. Not for anything but only two children have gone missing in Central Florida and in both instances, their mother was the alleged culprit. How about creating a foundation that supplies medical care to poor children. Caylee was not missing, she was murdered.

Gator

That pisses me off. I don't even live in Florida. I really feel that the organization shouldn't even exist and shouldn't get that any money. Caylee was never missing to begin with. I honestly don't see a lot of people getting involved with the Caylee Marie Foundation. The only people that would be involved would be the Ants, the few friends they have left, Mallory "Moron" Parker and her mom.

[browneyes106]

I finally have transportation again. I had to buy a new car after my transmission went two weeks ago. I absolutely love it. Went from a 1995 to a 2008. :beer: I'll be able to check on the sunflowers this weekend.

Gator

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Congrats on the new car.

[Gatordog]

She won't even see it coming-if I were Baez, that's the way to go, he's got nothing else. Surprise, Cindy! unless she's one of our lurkers...Hey, Cindy? Watch out for the train!

Morgan got Cindy to admit there was a fight, then she denied it up and down...perfect for JB...

Everyone, jump aboard! Fasten your seatbelts, it's going to be a bumpy ride.

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Gator

[Gatordog]

HAHAHA I cracked up when Morgan said that from now on he'd use his pinkie. I flashed back to George's Finger Family analogy. :hat:

Very good - I missed that. What idiots. George does have a thing for fingers.:eek:

gator

[Amy]

Nothing pisses me off more than people who hide behind religion. She thinks it's okay to lie, curse, yell, point fingers, be mean and downright inhumane, but it all goes away when you pray. That whole family should get down on their knees and pray for forgiveness and never get up again.

They showed a clip this morning where Cindy Anthony has the audacity to face ZFG and start questioning her. :mad:

And then, to have both G&C come out with the same exact description of Zany, word for word, and to say she was a 10 and that the real ZFG is no 10 is disgusting. I said it before, all these people care about is beauty. Caylee was worth more than another child because she was "beautiful". Casey should not be found guilty because she's "gorgeous". Well Cindy, look in the mirror. You are no 10 either. In fact your personality puts you in the negative numbers. Beauty is only skin deep.

I think JoeKuhl said it best when he said Caylee was kidnapped by Catherine Zeta Jones. Yea, someone looks like that, has money and doesn't have to work and all she wants to do is play nanny to someone else's child. How many lies do they expect us to believe? Nasty to the bone people.

The way Cindy tore into Morgan was the way she tore into me. Same wild eyes, same scowling mouth and pointing finger. I guess I should be honored that she hated me. Means I'm a good person. Anyone she likes is a creep and a degenerate.

Gator

Hmmm. 10 months. It took them 10 months to come up with a description of a nanny they both have said from day one (31) they had never seen or talked to? Never seen, Cindy. That's what EVERYONE except Casey has said from the beginning. I guess they must have seen her very, very recently, huh? And, if they did, why didn't they call 911 for nanny to be arrested for the kidnap and murder of their granddaughter?

They will probably say they did not admit to seeing her before, to protect Caylee and the family, of course. Now, I know the A's don't seem to act, react as most people would---like, once they found out Caylee was dead, no threat to them (and Casey's in jail, as protected as can be) should have kept them from disclosing who the real nanny is and get her convicted of killing that baby.

And, George, whilst being mean and nasty to the detective about the pronunciation of Zanny (and isn't it miraculous that he now knows EXACTLY how Casey would spell that name? Talk much whilst Casey was @ home on bail, George?) HE called Caylee his daughter @ one point. I think it was right before the Zanny pronunciation part. I guess it's okay for George to mix up the names of his daughter and granddaughter--the one he has known for 22+ years, the other for 2+ years. But the detective who has only been aware fo these people for about 10 months is supposed to keep them straight?

[JLette]

ok i just got finished watching cindy's depo and :eek: wow !!!

what the hell was she thinking?????? i thought george's was bad, oh my god!!!

this whole family is going down now

[browneyes106]

I just changed my sig. I did this mainly because I was upset to read about The Caylee Marie Foundation requesting a million dollars. A couple of years on Extreme Home Makeover. Collen Nick and her family were featured. Collen's daughter Morgan disappeared in 1995. She started the foundation a few years later. Colleen seems to be a very classy person and the foundation has a good reputation and programs that help people out.

[Amy]

Hold on to your wallets everyone. This affects us all.

I was barely listening to the news this morning when they were talking about requests that have come into Orange County for the stimulus tax dollars. That's when I stopped and almost rocketed through the roof. The "Caylee Marie Foundation" has asked for over $1 million dollars to build their foundation. This is your money people. Not for anything but only two children have gone missing in Central Florida and in both instances, their mother was the alleged culprit. How about creating a foundation that supplies medical care to poor children. Caylee was not missing, she was murdered.

Gator

Surely there is someplace to write, call, email or fax for people to say they are against the money going certain places? Who makes the decision, the legislators?

[browneyes106]

I also noticed that during Cindy's depo she said that Caylee used to talk about "Zanny's dog". I know George said in LE interview that Caylee never said anything about Zanny. Has Cindy said this BS dog story before?

[Zingo]

I think "seldom" doesn't cover what we saw yesterday. I was talking to a retired court reporter who said she had never seen the like. Usually hostile witnesses give a dirty look or a snide comment or two, but she'd never seen the outright and consistent combativeness, ever.

What I find funny is Cindy bragging about how she did her "homework" to try and impeach Morgan. What does she think she is?! And hello, Conway...what the H? Did they "go rogue" on you (hi Zingo!) or did you tell them to go for it?

I think that's why Cindy was so mad at the end...she realized she'd completely lost the battle of wits and blew it, not just for Casey but herself.

Hi Java ... LOL. Cindy and George weren't "going rogue," they were experiencing Kool-Aid Rage. Deep deep down they know Casey has been playing them for fools...

Here's my fictionalized version of the deposition ...

Mr. Morgan: I have a few questions ...
Cindy: My granddaughter was taken by a nanny no one has ever seen or heard of, so obviously she is not THIS woman. Can I go home now?

Mr. Morgan: Did you publically deny that Zenaida had been cleared by police?
Cindy: Casey said the police never showed her a photo of this Zenaida, despite what they say ... I believe Casey, my patholocial liar daughter, that's why I went on the air and let the public continue to believe this Zenaida might have had something to do with the kidnapping. It seemed the motherly thing to do. What do you expect me to do?

Mr. Morgan: Do you believe your daughter or the police who say they showed her Zenaida's photo in the photo lineup?

Cindy: The police have lied to us about many things, including the number of Zenaidas out there. We found over 2000 Zenaidas on MySpace alone, they found 2. I don't care if most of the Zenaidas we found were too old or too young or weren't living in the United States at the time. The police lied to us. Zanny is out there. And she is not this woman.

Mr. Morgan: I have a few more ---
Cindy: The police and attorneys will never let me or my daughter talk or finish our sentences.

Mr. Morgan: Did it strike you as odd that your daughter would be spending her vacation with the nanny?

Cindy: Not when you consider what a wonderful person Zanny was. Our Zanny, whom no one has ever seen, had white teeth and was thin, rich and generous to a fault. I'd like to point out that THIS Zenaida weighs way more than 140. THIS Zenaida has yellow teeth, frizzy hair, and no money, obviously. (Turning to Zenaida) Let's face it, no offense, honey, you're cute, but you're nowhere near a 10. Casey would never have entrusted Caylee to you, much less vacationed with you. So, all of these questions are irrelevant.

Mr. Morgan: I am trying to clear my client's name.

Cindy: All you want is 15 minutes of fame. And you're accusing my daughter of making things up with reckless disregard for how her lies affect others. Go ahead, it only makes you look like an ass.

Mr. Morgan: We are trying to do our job --
Cindy: None of these questions attempting to find out who murdered Caylee are relevant to this defamation suit which arose out of my daughter linking this woman to Caylee's kidnapping. Besides, I really don't want to know who murdered Caylee. I'm in mourning.

Mr. Morgan: What happened on June 15th?
Cindy: We never had an argument on June 15th. Whatever happened between Casey and my mother, I naturally wouldn't get involved. I'm a hands-off person who lets people manage their own lives. So, I have no idea why Casey would just suddenly leave for a month. She wanted to spend time with Caylee. Yes, we later learned that was a lie, but she was only lying to protect Caylee and the family from Zanny, who had promised to bring Caylee back in 50 days, in time for her birthday. Apparently, the real Zenaida was vicious, yet punctual at the same time.

Mr. Morgan: So no one had ever talked about seeing Zanny?
Cindy: Don't say "no one." Caylee spoke of seeing a dog. I asked her if Zanny had a dog, and she nodded her head. Caylee is a person. If my two-year-old granddaughter who still wasn't potty-trained nodded when asked about Zanny's dog, then there must be a Zanny.

Mr. Morgan: Did Casey ever steal from you?
Cindy: Whether my daughter stole from me is irrelevant to whether she might have been making the Zanny story up. I don't care if stealing money from me might be a clue that she wasn't working, and didn't have any need for a nanny much less money to pay a nanny.

Mr. Morgan: Your father --
Cindy: If you mention my father, I will attempt to choke you -- just as I did my daughter on June 15th. Whoops, I've said too much. Lord, give me strength. And, don't tell me I can't pray!
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Mr. Morgan: I'd like to ask you --
George: My granddaughter was taken by a beautiful super-model nanny no one has ever seen or heard of, so obviously she is not this woman. Can I go home now? I'm sorry she got caught up in this mess.

Mr. Morgan: When you first heard of Zenny --
George: You need to work on your pronounciation. It's Zany, not Zenny. I am on the ball. You can't confuse me.

Mr. Morgan: When you approached Casey about the gas cans --
George: Don't make me recall the time my own daughter wouldn't let me near the trunk of our car where most likely she had stashed my dead granddaughter. I will not let you interfere with a criminal investigation.

Mr. Morgan: I don't owe you an explanation, but I will as a courtesy.
George: You better show me some courtesy. I am sorry for what this woman has had to go through. How many times do I have to tell you .. she is not the one. She is not the one. Because she actually exists and she is not a 10. It's true.

Mr. Morgan: I'm glad you've decided to settle down.
George: After I'm done, I'm gonna walk over real nice, and I'm gonna shake Ms. Gonzales' hand and tell her I'm sorry for what she's gone through. Then I'm gonna punch you out you out for flipping me off. Don't deny that you were doing it.

Mr. Morgan: I didn't flip you the bird.
George: I'm former law enforcement, I know when someone is flipping me the bird.

Ok, they didn't say all that. I inferred a few things :)

[Amy]

That pisses me off. I don't even live in Florida. I really feel that the organization shouldn't even exist and shouldn't get that any money. Caylee was never missing to begin with. I honestly don't see a lot of people getting involved with the Caylee Marie Foundation. The only people that would be involved would be the Ants, the few friends they have left, Mallory "Moron" Parker and her mom.

I dunno---there are people other than the A's who see to it that Casey has commissary money, and I'm betting are contributing to the defense fund. Just last week, some young sounding female was asking NG if they could still send money to Casey (I think they were talking commissary) even if she were convicted. Wonder if the person who backed the second bail for her will contribute large chunks of money?

[lorettalockhorn]

Here's her dog!http://i41.tinypic.com/2ze9cgj.jpg

OOPs, No, not that one...................

HERE!http://i39.tinypic.com/2ni1g5i.jpg

Case Solved!!

I shouldn't laugh at the Duct Tape Doggie, but you're killing me over here!!!!!

[lorettalockhorn]

The new foundation registration and amendment. Looks like Cindy added Inc. to the old foundation. (Maybe?)

Detail by Officer/Registered Agent Name
Florida Non Profit Corporation
CAYLEE MARIE ANTHONY FOUNDATION, INC.
Filing Information
Document Number N08000009792
FEI/EIN Number NONE
Date Filed 10/22/2008
State FL
Status ACTIVE
Last Event AMENDMENT
Event Date Filed 03/06/2009
Event Effective Date NONE

Principal Address
4937 HOPESPRING DRIVE
ORLANDO FL 32829
Mailing Address
4937 HOPESPRING DRIVE
ORLANDO FL 32829
Registered Agent Name & Address
ANTHONY, CYNTHIA M
4937 HOPESPRING DRIVE
ORLANDO FL 32829 US
Officer/Director Detail
Name & Address
Title P
ANTHONY, CYNTHIA M
4937 HOPESPRING DRIVE
ORLANDO FL 32829
Title D
ANTHONY, GEORGE A
4937 HOPESPRING DRIVE
ORLANDO FL 32829
Title D
ANTHONY, LEE A
4937 HOPESPRING DRIVE
ORLANDO FL 32829
Title D
PARKER, MALLORY
5612 PARKDALE DRIVE
ORLANDO FL 32839
Title TD
PARKER, JODY
5612 PARKDALE DRIVE
ORLANDO FL 32839
Title D
BLACK, BRENDA
1202 CARLSON DRIVE
ORLANDO FL 32804
Annual Reports
No Annual Reports Filed
Document Images
03/06/2009 -- Amendment
10/22/2008 -- Domestic Non-Profit

Note: This is not official record. See documents if question or conflict.

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[One2Snoop]

Hi Java ... LOL. Cindy and George weren't "going rogue," they were experiencing Kool-Aid Rage. Deep deep down they know Casey has been playing them for fools...

Here's my fictionalized version of the deposition ...

Mr. Morgan: I have a few questions ...
Cindy: My granddaughter was taken by a nanny no one has ever seen or heard of, so obviously she is not THIS woman. Can I go home now?

Mr. Morgan: Did you publically deny that Zenaida had been cleared by police?
Cindy: Casey said the police never showed her a photo of this Zenaida, despite what they say ... I believe Casey, my patholocial liar daughter, that's why I went on the air and let the public continue to believe this Zenaida might have had something to do with the kidnapping. It seemed the motherly thing to do. What do you expect me to do?

Mr. Morgan: Do you believe your daughter or the police who say they showed her Zenaida's photo in the photo lineup?

Cindy: The police have lied to us about many things, including the number of Zenaidas out there. We found over 2000 Zenaidas on MySpace alone, they found 2. I don't care if most of the Zenaidas we found were too old or too young or weren't living in the United States at the time. The police lied to us. Zanny is out there. And she is not this woman.

Mr. Morgan: I have a few more ---
Cindy: The police and attorneys will never let me or my daughter talk or finish our sentences.

Mr. Morgan: Did it strike you as odd that your daughter would be spending her vacation with the nanny?

Cindy: Not when you consider what a wonderful person Zanny was. Our Zanny, whom no one has ever seen, had white teeth and was thin, rich and generous to a fault. I'd like to point out that THIS Zenaida weighs way more than 140. THIS Zenaida has yellow teeth, frizzy hair, and no money, obviously. (Turning to Zenaida) Let's face it, no offense, honey, you're cute, but you're nowhere near a 10. Casey would never have entrusted Caylee to you, much less vacationed with you. So, all of these questions are irrelevant.

Mr. Morgan: I am trying to clear my client's name.

Cindy: All you want is 15 minutes of fame. And you're accusing my daughter of making things up with reckless disregard for how her lies affect others. Go ahead, it only makes you look like an ass.

Mr. Morgan: We are trying to do our job --
Cindy: None of these questions attempting to find out who murdered Caylee are relevant to this defamation suit which arose out of my daughter linking this woman to Caylee's kidnapping. Besides, I really don't want to know who murdered Caylee. I'm in mourning.

Mr. Morgan: What happened on June 15th?
Cindy: We never had an argument on June 15th. Whatever happened between Casey and my mother, I naturally wouldn't get involved. I'm a hands-off person who lets people manage their own lives. So, I have no idea why Casey would just suddenly leave for a month. She wanted to spend time with Caylee. Yes, we later learned that was a lie, but she was only lying to protect Caylee and the family from Zanny, who had promised to bring Caylee back in 50 days, in time for her birthday. Apparently, the real Zenaida was vicious, yet punctual at the same time.

Mr. Morgan: So no one had ever talked about seeing Zanny?
Cindy: Don't say "no one." Caylee spoke of seeing a dog. I asked her if Zanny had a dog, and she nodded her head. Caylee is a person. If my two-year-old granddaughter who still wasn't potty-trained nodded when asked about Zanny's dog, then there must be a Zanny.

Mr. Morgan: Did Casey ever steal from you?
Cindy: Whether my daughter stole from me is irrelevant to whether she might have been making the Zanny story up. I don't care if stealing money from me might be a clue that she wasn't working, and didn't have any need for a nanny much less money to pay a nanny.

Mr. Morgan: Your father --
Cindy: If you mention my father, I will attempt to choke you -- just as I did my daughter on June 15th. Whoops, I've said too much. Lord, give me strength. And, don't tell me I can't pray!
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
Mr. Morgan: I'd like to ask you --
George: My granddaughter was taken by a beautiful super-model nanny no one has ever seen or heard of, so obviously she is not this woman. Can I go home now? I'm sorry she got caught up in this mess.

Mr. Morgan: When you first heard of Zenny --
George: You need to work on your pronounciation. It's Zany, not Zenny. I am on the ball. You can't confuse me.

Mr. Morgan: When you approached Casey about the gas cans --
George: Don't make me recall the time my own daughter wouldn't let me near the trunk of our car where most likely she had stashed my dead granddaughter. I will not let you interfere with a criminal investigation.

Mr. Morgan: I don't owe you an explanation, but I will as a courtesy.
George: You better show me some courtesy. I am sorry for what this woman has had to go through. How many times do I have to tell you .. she is not the one. She is not the one. Because she actually exists and she is not a 10. It's true.

Mr. Morgan: I'm glad you've decided to settle down.
George: After I'm done, I'm gonna walk over real nice, and I'm gonna shake Ms. Gonzales' hand and tell her I'm sorry for what she's gone through. Then I'm gonna punch you out you out for flipping me off. Don't deny that you were doing it.

Mr. Morgan: I didn't flip you the bird.
George: I'm former law enforcement, I know when someone is flipping me the bird.

Ok, they didn't say all that. I inferred a few things :)

ROFLMAO! http://i40.tinypic.com/2m7vqsy.gif

[One2Snoop]

Deputy sheriff fired for failing to properly investigate Caylee tip
Meter reader who reported possible body in woods in August said deputy who responded was rude to him

Bianca Prieto and Sarah Lundy | Sentinel Staff Writers
4:39 PM EDT, April 10, 2009

Deputy sheriff fired for failing to properly investigate Caylee tip
Meter reader who reported possible body in woods in August said deputy who responded was rude to him

Bianca Prieto and Sarah Lundy | Sentinel Staff Writers
4:39 PM EDT, April 10, 2009

An Orange County deputy sheriff who failed to properly investigate a tip that might have led investigators earlier to the body of missing Caylee Marie Anthony was fired today.

Deputy Richard Cain was notified of his termination after an internal investigation found his actions to be negligent. He intends to appeal, a sheriff's spokesman said

Roy Kronk, an Orange County meter reader who found Caylee's remains on Dec. 11 told investigators he'd called the tip in several times months before the discovery but the deputy who responded -- Cain -- was rude to him.

Cain did not immediately tell investigators he checked out Kronk's tip in August. Deputies found out about Cain's role only after Kronk alerted authorities. Cain was transferred to the supply division in January. He was forced to turn in his sworn credentials and agency-issued equipment, including badges, gun, patrol car and radio and no longer allowed to represent himself as a deputy.

An internal investigation was launched on Dec. 19 for two counts of truthfulness and two counts of unsatisfactory performance. The report was completed on March 27 and the accusations were sustained, according to records.

The State Attorney's Office recently released transcripts of taped interviews investigators conducted with Cain a week after the discovery of Caylee's remains in the wooded lot near the Anthony family home in east Orange County.

Cain told investigators different versions about what happened in August when he checked out a tip about something suspicious in the woods near the girl's home, reports released Monday show.

In one interview about what happened Aug. 13, Cain told investigators he found a couple of trash bags and when he picked up one of the bags, leaves and sticks fell out.

In a different interview a few hours later, Cain said he didn't pick up a bag and he didn't touch anything. He used his baton to poke around what he said he had found: sticks, twigs and "something the size of a leaf."

He said he could have found a piece of something like a garbage bag or a piece of dark clothing.

Kronk called in the tip and waited nearby as Cain checked out the woods.

When he emerged from the woods, he told Kronk: "I found some stuff in there but there's nothing in it," according to his deposition.

The investigators -- Corp. Yuri Melich and Sgt. John Allen – asked why he didn't have Kronk lead him to what the meter reader had found.

Cain said he didn't and he acknowledged under questioning that doing so would have been a reasonable thing to do.

Cain said he called or email someone, probably Crimeline, about how he checked out the tip in August.

But when asked why he didn't contact investigators after the remains were found Dec. 11, Cain said he thought detectives already had that information because he "thought all this stuff was kind of connected" by computers.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/orl-caylee-anthony-investigator-fired-091009,0,2152264.story

[One2Snoop]

Anthony Lawyer Thinks Civil Suit Is Frivolous

Posted: 11:57 am EDT April 10, 2009Updated: 1:25 pm EDT April 10, 2009
ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. -- The attorney for George and Cindy Anthony spoke out Friday morning after the two were deposed in the civil lawsuit against their daughter, Casey Anthony.

During their depositions Thursday, both George and Cindy were combative and refused to answer questions. The woman with the same name as the supposed babysitter, who Casey Anthony says took her daughter, is suing Casey for defamation.

Appearing on network TV Friday morning, Conway said the lawsuit is frivolous.

"Nobody believed from the beginning, nobody believed at any point that, this lady had anything to do with the disappearance of Caylee Marie Anthony. So for her to claim that she was the focus of the investigation is ridiculous," Conway said.

Attorneys for Zenaida Gonzalez said they may ask a judge to force George and Cindy Anthony to come back to answer questions they refused to answer.

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[One2Snoop]

Gonzalez Attorneys May Call George Anthony Back
Casey Anthony's Parents Questioned In Civil Suit

POSTED: 9:21 am EDT April 10, 2009
UPDATED: 4:07 pm EDT April 10, 2009

ORLANDO, Fla. -- In the wake of Thursday's heated depositions of George and Cindy Anthony, attorneys for Zenaida Gonzalez said they are leaning towards only calling back one of them for more questions.

Gonzalez' attorneys said Friday that Cindy Anthony answered most of their questions. They said that leaves George Anthony as the person they are leaning towards bringing back in for more questions in the civil suit against the Anthonys' daughter, Casey.

In three contentions hours of sworn testimony, attorneys for Gonzalez said Cindy Anthony was argumentative, barking back at attorney John Morgan at one point that Casey Anthony "didn't have a fight with me. Go there. Go ahead Mr. Morgan!"

Gonzalez' attorneys said George Anthony would not answer questions about Casey trying to keep him from looking in the trunk of her car late June 2008 as well as some other key points.

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[Native Alien]

I really don't understand the attorneys in this mess. Are they all playing dumb or what? The fact that the woman's name was uttered every other sentence out of the Anthony's mouths made her life miserable. It caused no end of problems for her.

I have to ask Baez and Conway both one question. Are you really so stupid or do you have to work at it? This is all Law 101. Heck I even got the basis of the civil suit in business law 101.

[lorettalockhorn]

I don't know what was in Cain's mind, good lord, you know a child is missing, the spot is 15 houses from where she lived...I say good riddance, apparently this isn't his calling if he hasn't the ba**s to do what he had to ~ go in and check out anything that might have been there.

Instead of being known as the cop who found Caylee, he gets fired with shame 3 months later,....Bet he's kicking himself in the butt right about now.

What bothers me is that he even told lies and gave different versions...:no:

Add another one to the walking wounded Casey has left behind.

Well, that seems to be typical in this case and I say good riddance although the THs seem to think Cain was being treated harshly when he was assgned to desk duty. Lawsy, they'll prob go ballistic over his firing!

Does it bug anyone else that YM wrote off The Zone as a possible dump site since it had already been searched? It really, really never occurred to him that Caylee's remains were missed or that she could have been dumped after the search?

[lorettalockhorn]

I really don't understand the attorneys in this mess. Are they all playing dumb or what? The fact that the woman's name was uttered every other sentence out of the Anthony's mouths made her life miserable. It caused no end of problems for her.

I have to ask Baez and Conway both one question. Are you really so stupid or do you have to work at it? This is all Law 101. Heck I even got the basis of the civil suit in business law 101.

I don't get it either. Cindy claims that Morgan's ZFG's name isn't ZFG and that she was never fired or a suspect. That's pretty basic stuff for Morgan to have refuted in court. We know that LE questioned Morgan's Zenaida and no other.

Cindy's attack on Zenaida yesterday was inexcusable. And Conway just sat by and let her make an "ass of herself on the thing".

LMAO at the thought of Morgan looking for fifteen minutes of fame. The Sentinel named him one of Orlando's 25 most powerful, and that's probably why Cindy hates him. She is probably literally jealous of his success.

[lorettalockhorn]

Well, my dear, since there was so much CRAP going on, the running around chasing lies, tracking down people, hundreds of interviews etc etc then Cain not even going to his superiors about Kronk and what transpired....!........looks like the individual policemen themselves would have been the last people who would have had to be doublechecked! Imagine, it wasn't till what, Kronks 3rd call, how many months later that YM found out about the August tip! he must have been fuming !

YM would have loved to have at least found Caylee, never mind the saving face part. I don't think there's much love between YM and Casey after the way she made them run around wasting time (Universal comes to mind..LOL remember when she actually had the u-know-what's to bring them there, to show them her fricken office??? Even though they knew it was a no go, they had to get her in the corner with her dunce cap on! LOLOL)

Sometimes I need help interpreting things, but I thought that one of Kronk's calls went to the tipline and when it was referred to YM, he pooh poohed the tip because the area had already been searched. I thought that was within the time frame of the calls. :shrug:

About 90% of the players in this case need a dunce cap!

http://i37.tinypic.com/2e14sw1.jpg

[lorettalockhorn]

Looking at the amendment to the CMAF, Inc. it looks like the amendment is to change article III; the purpose of the foundation, and to add Brenda Black and Holly Gagne as officers (article VIII?). Not sure who BB is to the Ants, but Michelle Bart is listed as one of her friends on Facebook. Holly Gagne was Caylee's former babysitter.

So this doesn't look like a new foundation, but an amended version of the old foundation. Found this blurb about salaries for board members:

http://www.cayleedaily.com/2009/03/cindy-and-george-anthony-to-profit-off-caylee/

[4u2]

From what I understood, it's a bunch of rogue a**wipes who have had too much of what Cindy and G drink..Casey Koolaid. They go on boards like this, and try to sway public opinion and interject the belief that she didn't do it....LMAO.

There have been a couple here, I think, but we chased 'em away....with the truth! They can't deal with that... It's like the cross to the devil! LOL

Thanks old_soul :seeya: "the cross to the devil" had me laughing for hrs.

[mandi3020]

Well, I just finished watching Cindy's deposition. Someone tell me WHY is she mad at ZFG? She is pointing at this poor woman, barking questions at her, and say's "you're not 10." I'm mean, good heaven's ....

I haven't watched George's depo yet as I must take a break from all the lies.

I've said it before, and I'll say it again.....Caylee never stood a chance with this crew.

[lissyanne1]

Hi, just popping in, I would be interested to know if the Sawgrass apts allows dogs there. ( this is in reference to Cindy claiming that Caylee saying Zanny had a dog)

Also, I hope I don't offend anyone here, but I think George gets too much credit. He is just as damn bad as Cindy is. I don't care who rules the roost or if he is afraid of Cindy. He has had every opportunity to stand up for Caylee. It's not that he can't , he doesn't want to.

[lissyanne1]

The funny thing about them insulting Zenaida's looks is that Z is a helluva lot cuter then their precious daughter Casey.

[lorettalockhorn]

iirc, they allow small dogs on a case by case basis, but I can't find the proof...I think they pulled it offline because of goofballs like me getting all curious :)

Goofball, reporting for duty! :patriot:

Not the Sawgrass site, but according to this, you are right:

...Sawgrass Pets Info:
This Orlando, Florida apartment community allows pets and is pet-friendly.

Cats, Small Dogs...



http://www.everyaptmapped.com/apartments/orlando,florida,fl/sawgrass.html

[lorettalockhorn]

Well, I just finished watching Cindy's deposition. Someone tell me WHY is she mad at ZFG? She is pointing at this poor woman, barking questions at her, and say's "you're not 10." I'm mean, good heaven's ....

I haven't watched George's depo yet as I must take a break from all the lies.

I've said it before, and I'll say it again.....Caylee never stood a chance with this crew.

Cindy is just mad at the world. You know, The Real World. The world who knows that there isn't a Zanny or a Zani or a Zany and there never was. She's mad because Morgan and Mitnik trapped her in lies and got her to spill on a couple of issues even after she did her homework. She's mad because she knows that Casey lied about ZFG's descriptors. She's mad because she knows that she should be named a party to the case. She's mad because no one thinks that she and Casey are tens.

(And maybe she's practicing to be a substitute for Simon Cowell on AI or Gordon Ramsey on HK or a foul mouthed USMC drill sargeant.)

[lorettalockhorn]

You don't need help interpreting schitt, Gumby woman, you're one smart
cookie, and you are probably remembering better than I...I didn't recall YM knowing then about it, but hey, that's why we always get you that big bottle of Stolie for X -Mas and a new tube of Chanel Red lipstick!http://i41.tinypic.com/25tk9wo.jpg

Speaking of red lipstick...http://i44.tinypic.com/2ppess7.jpg Now, Is this Totally Necessary for a Mens Room???!!!

Thank you dear! *does Nancy Grace impression* :tongue:

http://i44.tinypic.com/2ppess7.jpg
Something tells me this one is an allusion to male sexual dominance.

[One2Snoop]

Cindy is just mad at the world. You know, The Real World. The world who knows that there isn't a Zanny or a Zani or a Zany and there never was. She's mad because Morgan and Mitnik trapped her in lies and got her to spill on a couple of issues even after she did her homework. She's mad because she knows that Casey lied about ZFG's descriptors. She's mad because she knows that she should be named a party to the case. She's mad because no one thinks that she and Casey are tens.

(And maybe she's practicing to be a substitute for Simon Cowell on AI or Gordon Ramsey on HK or a foul mouthed USMC drill sargeant.)

LOL - :beer:

[One2Snoop]

Say it ain't so!! $49,000+ is not bad for doing SQUAT ! He gets paid, she gets paid, Lee gets paid, the fricken girlfriend gets paid, her mother gets paid, the dogs get paid and NO ONE NEEDS TO GET A JOB OUTSIDE OF THE CAYLEE FOUNDATION!!

:rolleyes:

$49,000 each? No way!http://i42.tinypic.com/x6hpxi.gif

[lorettalockhorn]

No relation to "Todd Black", I hope?

LOL Nothing would surprise me. This case is a total sh!t magnet.

BB's myspace?

http://www.myspace.com/brendadblack

So according to this, Brenda is forty, and according to a people search Holly Gagne is 35. Do G&C not have any friendships/relationships with people their own age?

And a little OT, but does anyone find it strange that not a single photo (that I can recall) has surfaced of Caylee with any other children? No BDay parties, or Bible school pix or picnics at the park? Doesn't it seem like even if G&C didn't have any or were holding them back waiting for the market to go up, that if Caylee had any little friends, the parents might have released a picture or two by now?

So sad. Caylee stuck with the selfish, vile, offensive rANTs 24/7/365.

[lorettalockhorn]

Has anyone her ever heard of this person Patrishka on word press? I was googling for pics and came acroos her blog..she had a side by side of Caylee and JP Chatt. Her thought is that he's the dad of Caylee, which we have thrown around,but anyway, here is the link to Pratt and his about me blog....some interesting stuff (ricardo stuff too)..see what you think.

http://web.mac.com/jpchatt/jp/About_Me.htm

Anyone seen this?

I think I may have posted that at one time, but don't remember if it was just the link or the text. I'll check my posts.

[lighthousedazy]

Looking at the amendment to the CMAF, Inc. it looks like the amendment is to change article III; the purpose of the foundation, and to add Brenda Black and Holly Gagne as officers (article VIII?). Not sure who BB is to the Ants, but Michelle Bart is listed as one of her friends on Facebook. Holly Gagne was Caylee's former babysitter.

So this doesn't look like a new foundation, but an amended version of the old foundation. Found this blurb about salaries for board members:

http://www.cayleedaily.com/2009/03/cindy-and-george-anthony-to-profit-off-caylee/

Say it ain't so!! $49,000+ is not bad for doing SQUAT ! He gets paid, she gets paid, Lee gets paid, the fricken girlfriend gets paid, her mother gets paid, the dogs get paid and NO ONE NEEDS TO GET A JOB OUTSIDE OF THE CAYLEE FOUNDATION!!

:rolleyes:

Nothing like a family business for stimulating the local economy.This is outrageous. Someone local please contact the State Attorney's office, or the Secretary of State office. This cannot be legal. So I can just go and set up a foundation claiming to help so and so, etc. and solicit funds. I don't know about Fla. but I don't think that would get by Kathy Cox in GA. Some one tried that in the Tara Grinstead case that was not related or involved except in searching and it didn't go over well at all. jmo :flamemad:

[lorettalockhorn]

Honestly, I don't have many pictures of my boy with other kids at that age...none of my friends have kids his age, we don't do daycare, and when we did go out to play with other kids say at the zoo, we were having so much fun (translate: keeping them from mauling each other) I never took photos. I don't have any of me at that age with other kids that young, either, weirdly: maybe the same reasons?

But I think I might safely say, my reasons are probably very different from theirs...and I DO have lots of pictures of him with people other than ME! Like all my friends, trips to Disneyland, etc. I have seen a lot of photos of Caylee-with Casey and Cindy, mostly. Not a reliable percentage with other people.

I don't have tons of My Little Love with other kids either, but hey he's 32 years old, I was a SAHM and we didn't have digital cameras, cell phones, etc. to facilitate photos obviously. But the Ants are photo bugs, no doubt about it. We did have a video camera very early on and also have quite a few Polaroids (do you even know what that is? LMAO), of Easter Egg hunts, Mom's Day Out, BDay parties, swim lessons (age three months!), the Baptism and friends' kids' christenings, etc.

I just think that Caylee was basically isolated, which is sad. Although she did seem very well socialized.

[lorettalockhorn]

Are you a Polaroid girl too, honey? I love my Spectras, have 2 and even went so far as to buy another on Ebay not too long ago. Nothing like an instant pic sometime, and while digital is cool now, to just put your pics on a disc and all that ~ instant is better...one for me, one for you right there and then! It's getting damn expensive nowdays though for the film.

Music and Pictures are 2 of the best inventions in the world. :)

Poor Caylee, I'm thinking of the recents shots seen from (Ant L's (?) cell phone...Caylee was not smiling in any of them, and looked....sad or something???

UGH I'm such a lousy photographer I don't even try anymore! Don't have any grandbabies to practice on yet!

The video of Caylee with Al Plesea just gets me every time. She seems so empathetic while they quietly comfort each other, but she doesn't look happy, and we know it's likely that within hours she'll be dead.

I think this is the JPC link that I had found once upon a time, but didn't get it from Patrishka's blog :shrug::

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://patrishka.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/caylee-and-jp-chatt.jpg&imgrefurl=http://patrishka.wordpress.com/2009/03/22/caylee-anthonys-father-want-to-see-his-photo/&usg=__U6OUOMo9Ow2r_TLDkVqzcCDfcBw=&h=372&w=880&sz=42&hl=en&start=178&tbnid=OGiooZau3KfbwM:&tbnh=62&tbnw=146&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dcindy%2Banthony%26gbv%3D2%26ndsp%3D20 %26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN%26start%3D160

[One2Snoop]

LOL Nothing would surprise me. This case is a total sh!t magnet.

BB's myspace?

http://www.myspace.com/brendadblack

So according to this, Brenda is forty, and according to a people search Holly Gagne is 35. Do G&C not have any friendships/relationships with people their own age?

And a little OT, but does anyone find it strange that not a single photo (that I can recall) has surfaced of Caylee with any other children? No BDay parties, or Bible school pix or picnics at the park? Doesn't it seem like even if G&C didn't have any or were holding them back waiting for the market to go up, that if Caylee had any little friends, the parents might have released a picture or two by now?

So sad. Caylee stuck with the selfish, vile, offensive rANTs 24/7/365.


As far as we know, Caylee never attended daycare/mother's day out/mom's group at the local park/McDonalds etc.... They weren't connected with a church either. Lee doesn't have any children and all of Cindy and George's relatives live elsewhere, so no I don't find it "that odd". The ANTs obviously didn't have friends who have kids, sad isn't it? but we all understand why at this point in time. Obviously they didn't have neighbors with young kids - so no friends there. Obviously Casey couldn't afford all these extra curricular activities for her daughter because her entire non-existent pay check went to the non-existent nanny. :cool:

What I do find odd, parents usually are ready for their children to do something socially with other kids by the time they turn age 2. Didn't one of her "nanny's" have a child around the same age? or was that the neighbor friend who turned her down to go out and party because she chose to stay home with her child?

[One2Snoop]

UGH I'm such a lousy photographer I don't even try anymore! Don't have any grandbabies to practice on yet!

The video of Caylee with Al Plesea just gets me every time. She seems so empathetic while they quietly comfort each other, but she doesn't look happy, and we know it's likely that within hours she'll be dead.

I think this is the JPC link that I had found once upon a time, but didn't get it from Patrishka's blog :shrug::

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://patrishka.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/caylee-and-jp-chatt.jpg&imgrefurl=http://patrishka.wordpress.com/2009/03/22/caylee-anthonys-father-want-to-see-his-photo/&usg=__U6OUOMo9Ow2r_TLDkVqzcCDfcBw=&h=372&w=880&sz=42&hl=en&start=178&tbnid=OGiooZau3KfbwM:&tbnh=62&tbnw=146&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dcindy%2Banthony%26gbv%3D2%26ndsp%3D20 %26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN%26start%3D160

I took a quick look at the link - JP Chatt is alive correct? :confused:

[lorettalockhorn]

As far as we know, Caylee never attended daycare/mother's day out/mom's group at the local park/McDonalds etc.... They weren't connected with a church either. Lee doesn't have any children and all of Cindy and George's relatives live elsewhere, so no I don't find it "that odd". The ANTs obviously didn't have friends who have kids, sad isn't it? but we all understand why at this point in time. Obviously they didn't have neighbors with young kids - so no friends there. Obviously Casey couldn't afford all these extra curricular activities for her daughter because her entire non-existent pay check went to the non-existent nanny. :cool:

What I do find odd, parents usually are ready for their children to do something socially with other kids by the time they turn age 2. Didn't one of her "nanny's" have a child around the same age? or was that the neighbor friend who turned her down to go out and party because she chose to stay home with her child?

That is exactly my point; whether you consider Casey or G&C (or some combination of the three) to be the parent(s), you would expect that Caylee would have had some interaction with other children and that at some point it would have been captured for posterity. I have to wonder if the tyrANTs weren't overly controlling with Caylee (like they are everyone else), and if there was a reason for the isolation. It's a classic MO for abusers.

[lorettalockhorn]

I took a quick look at the link - JP Chatt is alive correct? :confused:

As far as I know, he is. I think there were comments there confusing the Georgia guy with JPC. Someone thinking along the lines of Casey. Taking little half truths here and there and combining them. tehee

[One2Snoop]

As far as I know, he is. I think there were comments there confusing the Georgia guy with JPC. Someone thinking along the lines of Casey. Taking little half truths here and there and combining them. tehee

If I could ever complete my thoughts I would've added that into my post. :D

ITA! :beer:

[lorettalockhorn]

If I could ever complete my thoughts I would've added that into my post. :D

ITA! :beer:

HAHAHA CaseyThink. It's contagious!

http://i39.tinypic.com/22jg45.jpg
We need protection!

[One2Snoop]

That is exactly my point; whether you consider Casey or G&C (or some combination of the three) to be the parent(s), you would expect that Caylee would have had some interaction with other children and that at some point it would have been captured for posterity. I have to wonder if the tyrANTs weren't overly controlling with Caylee (like they are everyone else), and if there was a reason for the isolation. It's a classic MO for abusers.

I guess I might think it odd, but never would've thought abuse. Call me naive, but I'm learning. :seeya:

I've seen the classic signs of boyfriend/girlfriend/spousal abuse but quite honestly I've never seen the sort of family dynamics the Ants have. I admit it boggles my mind.

[One2Snoop]

HAHAHA CaseyThink. It's contagious!

http://i39.tinypic.com/22jg45.jpg
We need protection!

You got that right! :patriot:

[One2Snoop]

Okay, I'm decompressed enough to crawl up the stairs and hop in the sack. Jeeesh! These videos last night and tonight are tearing me up! I feel their pain and yet, I don't see sorrow as a license to abuse others. They were very bad and the ax is about to fall on their heads only to exasperate the gods. I heard the psych talking head say Casey fits the psychopath socio to a Tee and she also says the anthonys are hiding something.

HELLO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This trial is going to be one beastly SOB!

Night night, Nawny's had it!

We've started a new group called -
VAST EVIL - X-IT NOW.

(Videos are signs to evil x-it NOW.)

[browneyes106]

I dunno---there are people other than the A's who see to it that Casey has commissary money, and I'm betting are contributing to the defense fund. Just last week, some young sounding female was asking NG if they could still send money to Casey (I think they were talking commissary) even if she were convicted. Wonder if the person who backed the second bail for her will contribute large chunks of money?

I agree the comissary groups will contribute to the foundation and defense fund.

[lorettalockhorn]

I guess I might think it odd, but never would've thought abuse. Call me naive, but I'm learning. :seeya:

I've seen the classic signs of boyfriend/girlfriend/spousal abuse but quite honestly I've never seen the sort of family dynamics the Ants have. I admit it boggles my mind.

Oh, I'm just really wondering out loud since after seeing/reading the depositions, knowing that G&C are every bit as odious as Casey, I'm just pissed and disheartened that Caylee was exposed to such utter offensiveness and possibly had to witness emotional, verbal and physical abuse. Still wondering if she didn't get between Cindy and Casey the night of the big fight and that's what happened.

Sorry for the long sentence; don't know how to fix it I'm so GD POed at the adamANTs right now. I could just spit.

[lorettalockhorn]

We've started a new group called -
VAST EVIL - X-IT NOW.

(Videos are signs to evil x-it NOW.)

Love it!

http://i43.tinypic.com/eanwas.jpg

[lighthousedazy]

I don't have tons of My Little Love with other kids either, but hey he's 32 years old, I was a SAHM and we didn't have digital cameras, cell phones, etc. to facilitate photos obviously. But the Ants are photo bugs, no doubt about it. We did have a video camera very early on and also have quite a few Polaroids (do you even know what that is? LMAO), of Easter Egg hunts, Mom's Day Out, BDay parties, swim lessons (age three months!), the Baptism and friends' kids' christenings, etc.

I just think that Caylee was basically isolated, which is sad. Although she did seem very well socialized.I know what you mean Loretta. I was a country bumpkin back in the late 50's and all the kids I saw was in Sunday school before I started to school, or maybe a few I saw in the city when we went shopping on Sat., but I agree in this day and time Caylee was isolated and sheltered. :(

[Its just me]

No relation to "Todd Black", I hope?

Not sure this has been posted.

About Todd Black ??

http://www.bloggernews.net/119604

[lighthousedazy]

Not sure this has been posted.

About Todd Black ??

http://www.bloggernews.net/119604Thanks IJM. I may have to step away from this case. So sad, but I just cannot listen and read anymore of what the devil's spawn Anthonys have to say. In the state of Florida there needs to be a person that will stand up for Caylee and pray that justice is served for her. jmo :rose:

[Its just me]

Thanks IJM. I may have to step away from this case. So sad, but I just cannot listen and read anymore of what the devil's spawn Anthonys have to say. In the state of Florida there needs to be a person that will stand up for Caylee and pray that justice is served for her. jmo :rose:

Hang in there Lighthouse.....their day is coming. I firmly believe in "You reap what you sow". In some way some how Payday "is" gonna happen. fep

[Zingo]

I read the entire depositions ... What struck me:

The Anthony's never seriously tried to find the real Zenaida ... doesn't that say it all?

And if they really think Amy or Jessie murdered Caylee, wouldn't they be like, oh, I don't know, CAMPING on their doorsteps threatening to beat the LIFE out of them if they came outside?

What's ironic is that G&C lash out at people who are actually seeking justice for Caylee. Whatever we think of Morgan/Mitnik/ZG, they are asking questions to determine who killed Caylee.

And that's the thing ... You would think the Anthony's would be hell bent to find who killed little Caylee.

But they just won't go there ...

[Native Alien]

All roads lead to Rome, Zingo. They know what happened. The only questions left are what did they know? When did they know it. (Of course, on one side of their mouths they never looked for ZFG, but then Cindy says they are currently "watching" a ZFG-Rivera in Puerto Rico. I HOPE that was a lie-that some woman is not currently being stalked...)

You'd think people would have learned from OJ's mistakes...at least LOOK like you're trying to find the "real" killer...

I don't even think that it is a case of what did they know anymore. I think it is more a case of when did they know it. In my honest opinion, Cindy and George both knew the minute that they picked up that car from the towyard that someone was dead and George even went so far as to admit that at one point. When the tow driver asked George if he wanted him to look inside the car, because of the smell. George knew then that someone dead was either in the trunk or had been in the trunk.

Dead is a smell you don't forget Georgie do you?

[lorettalockhorn]

I read the entire depositions ... What struck me:

The Anthony's never seriously tried to find the real Zenaida ... doesn't that say it all?

And if they really think Amy or Jessie murdered Caylee, wouldn't they be like, oh, I don't know, CAMPING on their doorsteps threatening to beat the LIFE out of them if they came outside?

What's ironic is that G&C lash out at people who are actually seeking justice for Caylee. Whatever we think of Morgan/Mitnik/ZG, they are asking questions to determine who killed Caylee.

And that's the thing ... You would think the Anthony's would be hell bent to find who killed little Caylee.

But they just won't go there ...

I'm sure that at one point George said that whoever had Caylee was under surveillance, but now under oath he swears that they left the search to LE. Yeah. Right. The Ants have so much respect for LE and their role in finding "Missing Caylee". :rolleyes:

Zero credibility.

[lorettalockhorn]

Yes! And 8 tracks, and video disk players, and rabbit ears, console tv's and rear wheel drive...Pintos and Pacers, gas lines, life before cell phones and pc's, Tab, life under Jimmy Carter's financial geniuses...yep, the glory days.

As for Caylee being well-socialized, I guess its a case of "those who can't do, teach"...maybe the only good thing I can say about this lot is they (so far) raised a very sweet child. (NOT sweet enough for the whole world to babysit for free, of course. That's just nuts! How presumptuous...)

Java, you're either older than I thought or some kind of throwback (like My Little Love is), or raised under the tutelage of Mother Earth News, or a damned good student! :tongue:

[4u2]

OT, arrest in Sandra Cantu.

OMG, I just heard - they arrested a Sunday school teacher, a female. :eek:

[Gatordog]

Getting ready to take my first road trip in the new Rondo. Haven't driven beyond A 10 mile radius in years. Did two weeks ago and blew the transmission. So, I'll be brief so I can get on the road butb wanted to give you two local news updates.

Reported yesterday that OCSO has witten a letter indicating they want to fire Deputy Cain. Not for his lousy search of the burial site, but for lying twice about his search. This morning one channel reported him already fired but I can't confirm that.

Another searcher has come out of tyhe woodwork and states that he searched that area because he used to live in the neighborhood and thought the woods might have some clues or the body. turns out he found a bag of stuffed toys and he called the police. Now, you know which cop showed up right - yup, Cain. He looked at the bag of toys, said some nasty remarks to the searcher and threw the bag back into the woods. The searcher also stated that he is sure he searcged that area ans the death bags were not there. :shrug: Doesn't leave me with a warm, fuzzy feeling.

Bozo has also put in another motion for Judge Strickland to subpeona the cell phone records of ten people - all the Ants, Kronk, Hoover and D. Casey, Amy H., Jesse and this searcher.

Gator

:seeya: On the road again....

[One2Snoop]

I'm sure that at one point George said that whoever had Caylee was under surveillance, but now under oath he swears that they left the search to LE. Yeah. Right. The Ants have so much respect for LE and their role in finding "Missing Caylee". :rolleyes:

Zero credibility.

Was a transcript ever released when George went before the Grand Jury? Anyone remember? I'll go look. I remember him being so humble and wanting to get to the truth and tell the truth about what he knew. Boy what a change in demeanor from then to now.

[Justice Denied?]

Well, ZFG just won her lawsuit-against Cindy!

Did you guys get to the last 2 pages yet?!

Q You knew when you went on TV that night that
this woman was not the Zenaida Gonzalez and you did not
clear her name, did you? Yes or no? If you dare?
A No.
Q Thank you.
A No.

pg 139

I think Cindy may have bought her own lawsuit with that comment. She published untrue information on nationwide TV.

[Gatordog]

"I think the mother ship thinks that if there is a mispelling on the card .........."

You know what I'm about to say ,, right Jav?

Um, titanic, ahhhh, holes in the boat,, hrmmm, sink... ah.. use your Pisces telepathy baby!


Okay, I'm on my way to the laundry room. :D

Hi Nawny, I think the answer to the "Gonzale" name on the card is because Zenaida didn't fill it out herself. If I remember correctly, it was stated that when zenaida went to sawgrass, the office manager filled out the card and zenaida signed it.

Did you see the face on that witch - Cindy Anthony. Downright hateful. Instead of taking her anger out on the whole world, she should focus it back where she had it in the beginning - her "sociopath" daughter. I guess she forgot that she thought "Gorgeous" was a sociopath.

Gator

[Amy]

I'm sure that at one point George said that whoever had Caylee was under surveillance, but now under oath he swears that they left the search to LE. Yeah. Right. The Ants have so much respect for LE and their role in finding "Missing Caylee". :rolleyes:

Zero credibility.

I don't have the link for it, but for sure, George had said to a tv reporter that Caylee had been moved 9 places, and their PI was always one step behind them. Which gets me to wondering.....hmmmm. So, I wonder if they moved Caylee's body 9 times before leaving her where she was found? Or, 8 times, and the 9th move is where she was found. But, indeed, he referenced the A's PI, and there were several times that Cindy talked about their PI. @ the time, they did not name the PI, but @ one time their PI was Dominic Casey--on the board of KFN. It gets so darn convoluted!!!!

[lorettalockhorn]

Hi Nawny, I think the answer to the "Gonzale" name on the card is because Zenaida didn't fill it out herself. If I remember correctly, it was stated that when zenaida went to sawgrass, the office manager filled out the card and zenaida signed it.

Did you see the face on that witch - Cindy Anthony. Downright hateful. Instead of taking her anger out on the whole world, she should focus it back where she had it in the beginning - her "sociopath" daughter. I guess she forgot that she thought "Gorgeous" was a sociopath.

Gator

At this point all I can say for Cindy is it takes one to know one! And I think she looks more like The Grinch every day.

[lorettalockhorn]

I don't have the link for it, but for sure, George had said to a tv reporter that Caylee had been moved 9 places, and their PI was always one step behind them. Which gets me to wondering.....hmmmm. So, I wonder if they moved Caylee's body 9 times before leaving her where she was found? Or, 8 times, and the 9th move is where she was found. But, indeed, he referenced the A's PI, and there were several times that Cindy talked about their PI. @ the time, they did not name the PI, but @ one time their PI was Dominic Casey--on the board of KFN. It gets so darn convoluted!!!!

Thanks Amy. I knew I could count on your memory! :beer:

[Gatordog]

OK girls, tell us how you really feel! ;)

OK So, honestly, losing Caylee was terribly sad, and our sympathies went out to them for that.......BUT ~ their misplaced anger is even more sad and disturbing to watch, and has made us become this way towards them. I read posts yesterday (not here) about Cindy needing a wonderbra cause her 18 hour wasn't holding ...and when I saw that I started laughing, because I Thought The Same Thing when I saw her walking into the deposition that day! I wouldn't dare say anything about it, I thought it was kinda hitting below the belt, but this is the way they have made people feel toward them...

The gum smacking and the crazed look was darn scary, not to mention G's actions.....They both look unhinged if you ask me!

So, I wanted to post this and let you all know that George wishes all a Happy Easter and is sending his Salutations from the SS Anthony!
http://i39.tinypic.com/xn668n.jpg Ships Ahoy!!


Here they are, boating together! Awwwwwwwwwhttp://i44.tinypic.com/6ied60.jpg

OS, you made me laugh so hard that little Mac had to run over and give me hugs and kisses.

After George and Cindy's statements about the Nanny being a 10 and Zenaida is not, they opened themselves up to all sorts of ridicule, and it's well-deserved. All empathy I had for them left a long time ago. I can't believe I defended that witch even after she had me sobbing at the so called meet and greet. Live and learn. I would burn my money before donating a cent to their foundation and if they plan to ask Orange County for that money, I will fight them at every commission meeting and I'll bring reinforcements.

Gator

[lorettalockhorn]

I think Cindy may have bought her own lawsuit with that comment. She published untrue information on nationwide TV.

*fingers crossed*

[lorettalockhorn]

OK girls, tell us how you really feel! ;)

OK So, honestly, losing Caylee was terribly sad, and our sympathies went out to them for that.......BUT ~ their misplaced anger is even more sad and disturbing to watch, and has made us become this way towards them. I read posts yesterday (not here) about Cindy needing a wonderbra cause her 18 hour wasn't holding ...and when I saw that I started laughing, because I Thought The Same Thing when I saw her walking into the deposition that day! I wouldn't dare say anything about it, I thought it was kinda hitting below the belt, but this is the way they have made people feel toward them...

The gum smacking and the crazed look was darn scary, not to mention G's actions.....They both look unhinged if you ask me!

So, I wanted to post this and let you all know that George wishes all a Happy Easter and is sending his Salutations from the SS Anthony!
http://i39.tinypic.com/xn668n.jpg Ships Ahoy!!


Here they are, boating together! Awwwwwwwwwhttp://i44.tinypic.com/6ied60.jpg

Oh lookie!!!!! It's the Scowl and the Pussycat!!!!!

[Amy]

Was a transcript ever released when George went before the Grand Jury? Anyone remember? I'll go look. I remember him being so humble and wanting to get to the truth and tell the truth about what he knew. Boy what a change in demeanor from then to now.

I think Grand Jury proceedings are sealed forever and ever. Just recently in some statement from Casey--in an LE interview? she was complaining to the detectives about the secret Grand Jury wasn't so secret as the media reported on it. Well, they reported ON it, like, who was called to testify and such, but everything else--like WHAT they were even asked to testify about remained behind closed doors, and anything "reported" was just speculation on part of the various reporters and anchors and th's.

[Amy]

Wouldn't...each of these places be a crime scene, and hold clues as to where Caylee was? Did they report every move to the LE?

Probably not--you know LE was looking for a dead Caylee and the A's were maintaining the Caylee that was being moved pillar to post of course, was alive. Really, I don't know. When George mentioned her being 9 places, he didn't mention whether or not LE had been involved--even the local LE in whatever places she had "been" just prior to the PI getting there. Didn't sound like it, tho.

About each of the places being a crime scene, I don't know. But, surely if LE or FBI or anyone had been told, they could have @ the least looked for evidence @ each scene. He never reported what was @ each place that made the PI think Caylee had been there, or even what might have been left that would lead him to the next secret place.

[Gatordog]

Let's get Dana to come back ~ hey nawny, we doubledare you to leave those fricken clothes and dicuss with us G's talking about Z-A-N-Y "sir if you don't know how to say an A, I feel sorry for you"....!!!!!!!:rolleyes:

Cindy thinks she is so damn smart, with all her research....http://i42.tinypic.com/nzp10i.jpgbtw ~ she has gone through hundreds of pages of discovery, so it seems, so now we know she wasn't in the dark about a lot of what her daughter did during her 1 month of freedom.....If I were her, instead of being snide, I would hide my head in the ground, al la http://i44.tinypic.com/2vs3e44.jpg:tongue:


PS ~ can your dh teach my dh to fold clothes too?? Can he even talk him into doing it? Pleaseeeeeeeeeee!

OS - you are amazing with your photos. You just crack me up.

Now we now why George did his suicide stunt - to buy time so they could do their homework. They were due in court in just a few days and were probably waiting for the doc dump so they would be more prepared.

Gator

[Gatordog]

Can anyone explain (with a straight face) why Cindy Anthony filed the papers to start a foundation in Caylee's name in October when Caylee was supposedly being moved all over the country and not dead?

Gator

[lorettalockhorn]

Can anyone explain (with a straight face) why Cindy Anthony filed the papers to start a foundation in Caylee's name in October when Caylee was supposedly being moved all over the country and not dead?

Gator

According to article III, the purpose of the foundation set up 10/08 was to find a missing Caylee. The amendment filed in 3/09 changes the purpose of the foundation to find missing children.

[wind149]

That woman is the most hateful b*tch there is! I hope to Christ that they are charged with something as I totally feel that she has known Caylee was dead from the get go and that 911 call was just a front and the reason I think this, is people were starting to wonder where Caylee was, no one had seen her for awhile (yeah she was decomposing in the bag) so she decides to call 911 and made sure she said to C that she had missing for 31 days on that tape and then C was supposed to lay her crap story on LE and they would be out looking for a ZG and they both would be in the clear. Now they kept George out of the loop on this, and I think the night he tried to commit suicide was the day he found out the truth and he could not live with the knowledge at that moment but now he has joined forces with his b*tch wife and is selling that poor child down the river.

Wait till the trial and they are on the stand! Are they gonna blow up and storm out when the DA starts asking questions they don't want to answer??? If they do and in front of that jury, this will be a record breaker in how fast the verdict comes back! And how she was putting ZG down like that, there was no reason for her to do that, just shows how evil she is, as evil as her daughter and I can't wait to see this skank squirm on the stand and I hope they are charged with obstruction of justice, that carries jail time!! Keeping in mind that they will be under oath when they take the stand, they will still lie like rugs, and perjury charges will probably be levied on them too!!! I have not looked forward to a trial since Pam Smart, I watched some of the OJ trial, but I watched the entire coverage of her, I was living in NH at the time and we only had one ABC channel and no one saw their ABC soaps for awhile!!

I wanted Pam to get hers and she did and in couple of years, the other boys will be out on parole and that is gonna frost her cookies and I expect to see her mother on every network whining about how her daughter is totally innocent and her only crime was to have an affair!!! Another mother in total denial but at least she is not a nasty woman, just a deluded one, and she will go to her grave believing in her daughter, I saw an interview with her not to long ago on a NH TV station and she still blames the boys, that her daughter lives in despair of ever seeing her freedom and I was like, woman you need to open up your eyes! Those boy's paths would have never crossed Gregg Smart's, She had Billy Flynn right by the hairs and all he saw was her, and she wanted him to do her dirty work for her and they did, but the jury gave them a break and did not sentence them to LWPOP because they believed the same things, that those boys would have never killed without her coaching and she was the mastermind behind the whole horrid mess. And as long as there is breath in Mr. Smart, he would never ever support her getting out like he has the boys. The Gov turned down her request for a new trial and then clemency in 2004 so the odds of her conviction being overturned are a million trillion to one!! And I hope CA gets at least LWPOP even though I really want the DP!!

[lorettalockhorn]

OS - you are amazing with your photos. You just crack me up.

Now we now why George did his suicide stunt - to buy time so they could do their homework. They were due in court in just a few days and were probably waiting for the doc dump so they would be more prepared.

Gator

Cindy may have done her homework, but shouldn't they have compared notes? G says Zani is 125 and has brown hair. C says she's 140 with black hair.

Oh wait! Don't tell me that Casey lied to them to make them look like Fidiots when they went to be deposed?! LMAO

[lorettalockhorn]

That woman is the most hateful b*tch there is! I hope to Christ that they are charged with something as I totally feel that she has known Caylee was dead from the get go and that 911 call was just a front and the reason I think this, is people were starting to wonder where Caylee was, no one had seen her for awhile (yeah she was decomposing in the bag) so she decides to call 911 and made sure she said to C that she had missing for 31 days on that tape and then C was supposed to lay her crap story on LE and they would be out looking for a ZG and they both would be in the clear. Now they kept George out of the loop on this, and I think the night he tried to commit suicide was the day he found out the truth and he could not live with the knowledge at that moment but now he has joined forces with his b*tch wife and is selling that poor child down the river...

...Another mother in total denial but at least she is not a nasty woman, just a deluded oneAnd I hope CA gets at least LWPOP even though I really want the DP!!

I think we got our first taste of just how nasty and fractious Cindy is during the 911 call when she spoke of the smell of a dead body in the damned car. The jury is going to accept their charge to hear the case and work to the best of their ability to find the truth with regard to Casey's innocence, and call me naive, but I don't think they're going to appreciate the likes of G&C trying to jerk them around.

OT: Yesterday Cindy mentioned fifty days until Caylee's birthday that was the time Casey would have to learn her lesson or whatever. Whatever happened to 55 days? Did Cindy just misspeak despite doing her best impersonation of a Philadelphia lawyer?

ETA: I want the death penalty too!!!

[lorettalockhorn]

Great catch there super sleuth-ya one would think the description of the nanny napper would be of such importance it would be seared in one's brain. Liar must not have been up to par that day and gave them diff. descriptions. Would that not be enough to look at your significant other and say WTF? Lordy

hehehe Casey was prob setting them up (knowing that none of those yahoos talk to each other)!

Ooh! Just thought of a new reality program: I Wanna be a Super Model/Nanny.

[lorettalockhorn]

Haaa...... LMAO well if the rumour mill is true and Octomom can get one-whats left. Oh wait i know-a day in the life of the Ants-I would pay to see that one-briefly. Script all day would be :punch: You shut up-No you shut up. LOL

I'm telling you, if Leroy ever told me to shut up I would be livid, but if he did it in public, he would fpay! Can you imagine the nasty exchanges that Caylee had to listen to?! :(

[lorettalockhorn]

Better yet, can you imagine how violent the denied fight on June 15 was? If they admit (though not now, of course) that Cindy choked Casey, can you imagine how bad it REALLY was?

Part of me does wonder now if they might not have had an accident involving Caylee in the middle of it and covered. It's because of this depo. Boy, those depos were awful!

I'm so cynical; I've always thought that whatever happened was on the 15th and Georgie Porgie lied about seeing Caylee and Liar on the 16th, and I've frequently wondered if Caylee got caught in the crossfire of that physical disturbance; tried to stop it and was fatally injured.

[lorettalockhorn]

[<<<snip>>>Oh wait i know-a day in the life of the Ants-I would pay to see that one-briefly. Script all day would be :punch: You shut up-No you shut up. LOL

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[One2Snoop]

Casey Anthony case: WKMG finds another Caylee searcher who got the cold shoulder from deputy
posted by halboedeker on Apr 11, 2009 7:18:20 AM

Meter reader Roy Kronk wasn't the only person ignored by Deputy Richard Cain, WKMG-Channel 6 is reporting.

In an "Only on 6" report this weekend, the CBS affiliate says a volunteer who searched for Caylee Anthony in August also received "the cold shoulder" from Cain.

Volunteer Keith Williams told WKMG that he searched the woods in August and found a bag of undamaged stuffed animals. "Williams immediately alerted the Orange County Sheriff's Office and soon found himself meeting with Deputy Richard Cain," WKMG's Mike DeForest reported.

Cain looked at the bag of stuff animals and threw it back in the woods, Williams said.

The Williams-Cain meeting happened five days after Kronk was "blown off" by the deputy, DeForest reported. Caylee's remains were found in December after another tip from Kronk.

DeForest explained that Williams could become a crucial witness for Casey Anthony. Because Williams said he searched the woods several times and didn't find Caylee's remains, her defense team might argue that the child's remains weren't in the woods in August when Casey was jailed. Anthony is charged with the first-degree murder of her child.

The Orange County Sheriff's Office fired Cain on Friday for lying about his actions in the Caylee search.

http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2009/04/casey-anthony-case-wkmg-finds-another-caylee-searcher-who-got-the-cold-shoulder-from-deputy-sheriff.html

[Zingo]

For sure Java-gotta laugh or kick the living s/h/i/t out of our monitor's LOL C better get started on her murder trial homework-she aint seen nothing yet. Goody i cant wait. Murder trial-whole different ballgame-she will be pulverized on the stand with that attitude. Let the games begin!!!! That was so cruel-her remarks regarding a 10 and a 2. Has she looked in the mirror lately? Lordy when she is pizzed she is one scary looking creature-all wild eyed. Not only is C nasty on the outside she is beyond on the inside. G-no better with his patronizing remarks and constant facial expressions. No class,no respect. They best get some practice and advice per lawyer as the next court wont tolerate it. YEAH!!!!! MOO

Will Cindy be allowed to chew gum in court?

The way she chews gum, her jaw bone could become an IED.

[One2Snoop]

Will Cindy be allowed to chew gum in court?

The way she chews gum, her jaw bone could become an IED.


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