Caylee Anthony Case Discussion Only

[applesandorange]

Oh my gosh, I hadn't thought of this...on another site someone pointed out, what are the odds that George was scammed, and his daughter is a scammer?

What if George losing money in a Nigerian scam and Casey ripping her parents off were one and the same event?


Hey Java! That's a good theory but I have to say I don't think that's what happened. I have gotten those Nigerian scam e-mails and I gotta tell you unless she was in a different country it's not the same as the scams she pulled. The Nigerian scam asks you to send money to a different country. She however could have gotten some of her ideas from that though. :shrug:

[applesandorange]

Yes indeedy! Hey did anyone els find the comment about Casye keeping her money in a locker at Hard Rock odd? That could be worth looking into.:rolleyes:
MMmmm I feel like chilli!:D


Yeah something's up with the lockers at Hard Rock. Either she stole from them or she actually does have some money there. She makes lies out of fragments of truth here and there. Something's up with those lockers.

[lighthousedazy]

Yeah something's up with the lockers at Hard Rock. Either she stole from them or she actually does have some money there. She makes lies out of fragments of truth here and there. Something's up with those lockers.

So good to see ya back. I wonder if LE has checked it out-I would think so?
Good thoughts. I wonder also if that is where the missing diary pages are. jmo

[One2Snoop]

Bounty Hunter Deposition Delayed
Monday, March 23, 2009 2:28:58 PM

ORLANDO -- Depositions have been delayed in the Casey Anthony defamation case.

Bounty hunter Leonard Padilla was scheduled to be questioned Tuesday by lawyers for Zenaida Gonzalez, but that will now be moved until May.

Attorneys for the Gonzalez, 38, are suing Casey Anthony for more than $15,000 in damages.

Gonzalez’s attorneys said they are delaying Padilla until after they speak with Casey Anthony's parents, George Anthony and Cindy Anthony. Their depositions are set for next month..

On Thursday, private investigators Dominic Casey and Jim Hoover are scheduled to be questioned at the law office of Morgan & Morgan.

Gonzalez claims she lost her job and suffered humiliation and public embarrassment after Casey Anthony told investigators that a baby sitter by the same name took her 2-year-old child Caylee Marie, who was found dead six months later in December.

http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2009/3/23/bounty_hunter_deposition_delayed.html

[JLette]

When this case started and I heard about the huge amounts of money that seemed to go nowhere, I had a strong feeling Casey was buying drugs. It was the only purchase that made sense. Drugs are very expensive. THe other thing that made that even more true in my mind was the crime could have been committed in a mind altered state. It was too horrendous for even the average socio to commit without a drug altered mind.

No one went there and so I dropped it. Something about that amount of money made me rethink it again.

Here's why I feel that way.

I know drugs can run into thousands per week. We are renting a building to a young man who bought out one of poppa's agencies. When he started in business he was crisp, brilliant and very efficient. The money he made during this past five years has brought him to millionaire status, but for one thing. Too much money too soon, and boredom set in. He became addicted to opiates. (Oxy, Vikes, and the rest.) He is now snorting up to ten oxy cotten per day. He mixes this with Valium and other pain meds. He is now skinny, forgetful, most of the days of the week the business s closed. He is unable to function. Can't work. He sleeps most of his days away and does hard drugs at night...And he is stone broke.

That business was 30 years running when he bought it and grossed huge amounts of money per year. He is, as we speak, being evicted from the building and has very little to live on. We were in shock when we saw his statements from last year. His deposits amounted to 1.3 million dollars. That's how expensive drugs can be.

Casey is a rookie compared to that guy, but for drugs, 45,000 is not a lot. She could have gone through that in weeks. When drug addicts have a wind fall, they love to share the wealth. They call all their friends and go on what is called, "A Mission" A mission is a party where they drug all night and sleep all day. Sometimes it lasts for more than a day. The point I'm making is, they spend huge amounts of money on the drugs, then they use them all up during a mission. This can run into thousands of dollars each time.

although i cannot be sure if i remember correctly there was nothing to suggest she was on drugs at the time, her friends said she smoked pot but none of the people they have been able to pinpoint her with during that time would admit anything more than that, and i'm sure she was drug tested at some point during all this. on the other hand she does seem to be quite the drinker, and those bars and nightclubs aren't serving cheap booze lol

all those pics that we see of her partying she always looked completely hammered to me, especially the one where she is peeing in the parking lot. if she is partying all the time and stealing money from people it would make sense that she was payin for the booze. and for some people booze can run up a bill as much as drugs can, especially if you are funding parties for 100+ people every weekend.

[Gatordog]

Hey Java! That's a good theory but I have to say I don't think that's what happened. I have gotten those Nigerian scam e-mails and I gotta tell you unless she was in a different country it's not the same as the scams she pulled. The Nigerian scam asks you to send money to a different country. She however could have gotten some of her ideas from that though. :shrug:

Hi A&O, glad you're back. Hope everything's ok now and your son is healing.

I think Java is on the right track. Perhaps George just made up the story about the Nigerian scheme to explain the money loss. He was willing to make himself look the fool rather than have the police learn that his daughter stole that much money from them. I don't think he knew that Shirley spilled the beans to LE.


gator

[JLette]

I find it amazing that a former cop could fall for the Nigerian scam...and even more amazing that a family exists that would consider falling for a scam to be LESS embarrassing than a gambling frenzy...

what amazed me was when the lawyer (lee's or george & cindy's, im not sure) told the court that lee answering the question about who caylee's father is would embarass their family? what?? if they don't know then they don't know, saying it would embarass their family suggests that they DO know and don't want anyone else to know.

[JLette]

I wonder what could be more embarrassing than the rumors...Lee, George, Conveniently Dead Guy, One-Night Stand, Not-A-Clue...

What embarrasses these folks doesn't translate into Earthling very well...

i just hope all this comes out at trial, so maybe we will have a chance at making some kind of perverted sense out of it all

[lorettalockhorn]

I find it amazing that a former cop could fall for the Nigerian scam...and even more amazing that a family exists that would consider falling for a scam to be LESS embarrassing than a gambling frenzy...

So true! I'd rather people think I had an illness like gambling than that I was fstupid.

Do the figures match up? For some reason I was thinking that the amount that George had lost online was $60,000.

[applesandorange]

So good to see ya back. I wonder if LE has checked it out-I would think so?


Thanks! It's good to be able to be back. Yeah I think LE has probably investigated every lie Casey has told since May.

[applesandorange]

When this case started and I heard about the huge amounts of money that seemed to go nowhere, I had a strong feeling Casey was buying drugs. It was the only purchase that made sense. Drugs are very expensive. THe other thing that made that even more true in my mind was the crime could have been committed in a mind altered state. It was too horrendous for even the average socio to commit without a drug altered mind.

No one went there and so I dropped it. Something about that amount of money made me rethink it again.

Here's why I feel that way.

I know drugs can run into thousands per week. We are renting a building to a young man who bought out one of poppa's agencies. When he started in business he was crisp, brilliant and very efficient. The money he made during this past five years has brought him to millionaire status, but for one thing. Too much money too soon, and boredom set in. He became addicted to opiates. (Oxy, Vikes, and the rest.) He is now snorting up to ten oxy cotten per day. He mixes this with Valium and other pain meds. He is now skinny, forgetful, most of the days of the week the business s closed. He is unable to function. Can't work. He sleeps most of his days away and does hard drugs at night...And he is stone broke.

That business was 30 years running when he bought it and grossed huge amounts of money per year. He is, as we speak, being evicted from the building and has very little to live on. We were in shock when we saw his statements from last year. His deposits amounted to 1.3 million dollars. That's how expensive drugs can be.

Casey is a rookie compared to that guy, but for drugs, 45,000 is not a lot. She could have gone through that in weeks. When drug addicts have a wind fall, they love to share the wealth. They call all their friends and go on what is called, "A Mission" A mission is a party where they drug all night and sleep all day. Sometimes it lasts for more than a day. The point I'm making is, they spend huge amounts of money on the drugs, then they use them all up during a mission. This can run into thousands of dollars each time.



Before when you had brought up the drugs I doubted that Casey was really into that hard stuff. Since reading the interviews though, I'm on the fence. It seems like the people who she went to high school with cannot accept that the Casey they seen on the news is the same person. Drugs make you turn into a totally different person. There has to be a reason why and how she changed from being a sweet caring person to this evil b**** we are now seeing. But then you'd also have to wonder if it was drugs with her being in jail they are out of her system and she's still an evil b****. I don't understand her at all. Not sure I want to.

[applesandorange]

Hi A&O, glad you're back. Hope everything's ok now and your son is healing.

I think Java is on the right track. Perhaps George just made up the story about the Nigerian scheme to explain the money loss. He was willing to make himself look the fool rather than have the police learn that his daughter stole that much money from them. I don't think he knew that Shirley spilled the beans to LE.


gator



Hi Gator! Thanks. Yes everything is getting better.

When I read Java's post I thought she meant that Casey had tricked George into believeing it was a Nigerian scheme and it was actually her. I highly doubt Casey is that smart. As for George making it up, I could see Cindy doing that before George. IMO Cindy is the one to cover for Casey and keep secrets from George. Not the other way around. I could be totally wrong. This is just what I've seen. Also didn't G move out because of this? Casey then hated him. I can't see C hating G if it was all her fault her mom and dad were fighting. I don't know. This family is so dysfunctional I can't begin to understand their thinking.

[applesandorange]

Hi A&O!!! Where have you been girl!!?? Missed you here!

Did someone say that George didn't lose that money, but rather, Casey stole it and he covered for her?


Hi Dan! I've been dealing with life! One thing after another. I missed you all too!

Yeah that theory is flying around. It could be that but I thought G lost like $60K not $45K. Who the heck knows with this family. I don't put it past any of them to lie about anything.

[SaraSidle]

Hi Dan! I've been dealing with life! One thing after another. I missed you all too!

Yeah that theory is flying around. It could be that but I thought G lost like $60K not $45K. Who the heck knows with this family. I don't put it past any of them to lie about anything.

good grief a&o I am so glad everything is okay and you have been missed badly. I am so glad you are back.........:patriot: sara

[applesandorange]

good grief a&o I am so glad everything is okay and you have been missed badly. I am so glad you are back.........:patriot: sara


You're too sweet Sara! Thank you! I hope everything has been going well for you. Any luck finding a job yet? I've been thinking about you and everyone else who is struggling in this economy. Two of my best friends haven't been able to find work since June.

[One2Snoop]

Before when you had brought up the drugs I doubted that Casey was really into that hard stuff. Since reading the interviews though, I'm on the fence. It seems like the people who she went to high school with cannot accept that the Casey they seen on the news is the same person. Drugs make you turn into a totally different person. There has to be a reason why and how she changed from being a sweet caring person to this evil b**** we are now seeing. But then you'd also have to wonder if it was drugs with her being in jail they are out of her system and she's still an evil b****. I don't understand her at all. Not sure I want to.
Awesome to see you back A&O :beer:

IIRC Casey was described as a good student who always did the right thing while in high school although she stopped going to school just shy of graduation. I remember graduating from HS - I remember always doing the right thing, making the good grades, I didn't drink nor did I do drugs, but something happened to me when I turned 21. :eek: I got a little wild and irresponsible. So I guess you can call me a late bloomer although I can't say I was ever an evil *****, but my brothers and sisters might beg to differ with me LOL. Thank goodness I never had a child to care for on top of my "coming out of my shell/shyness and wanting to party til the sun came up every night". Maybe this is what happened to Casey :shrug:
I think we can all quess till the cows come home but Casey is the only person who can really shed any light on why she behaved the way she did. Will she ever reveal? :shrug::shrug::shrug:

[sharlock]

Guys I think George did think it was preferable for people to believe he gambled it away. That was why he never told Cindy the truth about it. He told the FBI the truth because he knew they'd find out anyway and he didn't want to lie to them. I also think there were probably many times Casey stole off George or Cindy and they didn't tell each other but I do beleive George when he spoke of the scam. He was embarrassed as hell.At that time he wasn't really sold on the whole idea of lying for Casey, it took Cindy a while longer before he fell in with the plan so for the most part I think he told the truth to the FBI that day.

[joekuhl79]

Hey Java! That's a good theory but I have to say I don't think that's what happened. I have gotten those Nigerian scam e-mails and I gotta tell you unless she was in a different country it's not the same as the scams she pulled. The Nigerian scam asks you to send money to a different country. She however could have gotten some of her ideas from that though. :shrug:

Regarding the Nigerian scam...the reason they have kept at it so long is that the location is irrelevant. They have you Western Union the money to them. Anyone can claim the money at any WU. You just need to know the sender and receiver information. So George could have thought he was sending money to a Nigerian King, and Liar could be collecting that money across town.

Not that I think she is/was smart enough to work that scam.




Also, what's up with the Hard Rock locker? I know nothing of that...


I agree with Jlette and Beem...there is nothing that suggests Liar was into anything more than drinking and pot...and judging by those pictures, she'd likely have OD'd and died if she did any hard drugs, plain and simple.


I don't think George would cover for Liar stealing such large amounts of money...he is the most truthful and straightforward of the bunch. And like sharlock said...LE would discover if he had been lying about a scam story, and George would have known better to go into it lying to them.




Now some one tell me about this Hard Rock locker?

[applesandorange]

Awesome to see you back A&O :beer:

IIRC Casey was described as a good student who always did the right thing while in high school although she stopped going to school just shy of graduation. I remember graduating from HS - I remember always doing the right thing, making the good grades, I didn't drink nor did I do drugs, but something happened to me when I turned 21. :eek: I got a little wild and irresponsible. So I guess you can call me a late bloomer although I can't say I was ever an evil *****, but my brothers and sisters might beg to differ with me LOL. Thank goodness I never had a child to care for on top of my "coming out of my shell/shyness and wanting to party til the sun came up every night". Maybe this is what happened to Casey :shrug:
I think we can all quess till the cows come home but Casey is the only person who can really shed any light on why she behaved the way she did. Will she ever reveal? :shrug::shrug::shrug:


Thanks Snoop! It's great to be back!

You are probably right about turning 21 and going wild. I hadn't even thought about that because I did my partying in high school and by the time I was 21 I had 2 kids and was done with partying. That's probably what happened though. I know from seeing some of my friends go through it. It's a normal reaction to turning 21. I'm just not normal lol.

[Gatordog]

Thanks! It's good to be able to be back. Yeah I think LE has probably investigated every lie Casey has told since May.

Let's see, it's now the end of March. I'd say they still have about eight months to go before all lies have been investigated. ;)

Gator

[Gatordog]

I'm surprised her nose has not yet reached me up here in Canada :eek: I wonder what tales she tells Bozo :hat:

It's getting there Beem, it's going to need its own documents. LOL

http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-char048.gif (http://www.freesmileys.org)

Gator

[Gatordog]

The problem is, each lie just leads to more, wilder ones...it may never end! :eek:

New news, sort of: http://www.wesh.com/news/18992388/detail.html
No nanny per cell phone records and more opinion expressed of Baez' idiocy. Innocent indeed!

That's true, each lie has roots and grows branches.

Java, was concerned the other day with the police officers' shootings. I know you had it rough a month or so ago with the protests. I was afraid this might escalate into something again. I feel very sorry for those officers. :rose:

Gator

[One2Snoop]

Hearing to focus on how Casey Anthony pays defense
Prosecutors say Casey Anthony's attorney may have a conflict of interest

Sarah Lundy | Sentinel Staff Writer
12:03 PM EDT, March 24, 2009

A hearing is set for Wednesday morning to determine whether Casey Anthony will have to reveal how she is paying for her defense.

Orange Circuit Court Judge Stan Strickland will hear arguments from prosecutors on why Casey Anthony needs to disclose the information. They contend the 23-year-old could only afford her high-powered legal team by selling photos or videotapes relating to the story of the disappearance and death of her daughter, Caylee Marie.

Casey Anthony is charged with first-degree murder.

Her attorney, Jose Baez, is managing her assets, prosecutors wrote in their motion, and he could have a conflict of interest.

In court papers, Baez fired back with objections to the prosecutors' assumption. He wrote the state wants to "harass and embarrass" the defense team. He has no conflict of interest and no rights to his client's story, according to the paperwork.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/orl-bk-casey-anthony-hearing-032409,0,7725314.story

[One2Snoop]

Casey To Appear In Court Wednesday For Hearing

Posted: 12:24 pm EDT March 24, 2009Updated: 1:26 pm EDT March 24, 2009
ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. -- Eyewitness News has learned Casey Anthony will be back in court Wednesday.

A hearing was scheduled in the criminal case against Casey for Wednesday morning to discuss a possible conflict of interest (read motion) and whether the defense has any book or movie deals that could be influencing the direction of the case.

Casey's attorney, Jose Baez, filed his response (read motion) as well as filed an affidavit from his client Casey Anthony (Casey's response).

Also Wednesday, lawyers for Zenaida Gonzalez will question the Anthony family's two private investigators in the civil case against Casey Anthony.

Gonzalez is suing because she has the same name as the mystery nanny who Casey blamed for Caylee's disappearance.

WFTV.com will be providing live video online of the hearing.


NEW WITNESSES ADDED IN CASE AGAINST CASEY

In the case against Casey Anthony prosecutors have added dozens of new witnesses to a list of people who could be called to testify at Casey's murder trial.

Many of those witnesses are FBI investigators who processed the crime scene after the discovery of Caylee's remains.

Tuesday, the defense can look over more evidence recently released from prosecutors.

The evidence includes a statement given by Deputy Richard Cain last year, after investigators learned he had searched the scene in August, based on meter reader Roy Kronk's tip.

Roy Kronk is the meter reader who found Caylee Anthony's remains and repeatedly reported the discovery to police.

http://www.wftv.com/news/19002037/detail.html#-

[Native Alien]

Actually the whole situation with Bozo Baez is sad because all I see him and Casey together doing is burying the state under motion after motion and the outcome is to just to prolong the guilty verdict that he knows is coming.

If Casey were smart, or had any kind of intelligence, she would plead guilty, throw herself on the mercy of the court and hope for the best.

Granted she would have to admit to what she did, and George, Cindy, and Lee would all have to just deal with the guilt that they have to bear in all of this mess.

[Gatordog]

Hearing to focus on how Casey Anthony pays defense
Prosecutors say Casey Anthony's attorney may have a conflict of interest

Sarah Lundy | Sentinel Staff Writer
12:03 PM EDT, March 24, 2009

A hearing is set for Wednesday morning to determine whether Casey Anthony will have to reveal how she is paying for her defense.

Orange Circuit Court Judge Stan Strickland will hear arguments from prosecutors on why Casey Anthony needs to disclose the information. They contend the 23-year-old could only afford her high-powered legal team by selling photos or videotapes relating to the story of the disappearance and death of her daughter, Caylee Marie.

Casey Anthony is charged with first-degree murder.

Her attorney, Jose Baez, is managing her assets, prosecutors wrote in their motion, and he could have a conflict of interest.

In court papers, Baez fired back with objections to the prosecutors' assumption. He wrote the state wants to "harass and embarrass" the defense team. He has no conflict of interest and no rights to his client's story, according to the paperwork.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/orl-bk-casey-anthony-hearing-032409,0,7725314.story

Time of hearibg is 10:30 a.m.

Gator

[SuzDuJour]

[B]Hearing to focus on how Casey Anthony

A hearing is set for Wednesday morning to determine whether Casey Anthony will have to reveal how she is paying for her defense.

Her attorney, Jose Baez, is managing her assets, prosecutors wrote in their motion, and he could have a conflict of interest.

For a second there I thought it said Jose Baez is managing her assets. Wow. Just Wow. Hey, could someone post here what goes on at the hearing if they don't show it nationally? This should be a really good one!

[Gatordog]

I did not see it but my mom said that in the news tonight, it was reported that George Anthony has a nice new search boat. He's distraut all right. Probably distraut over which boat club to join. :flamemad:


From WESH -

Meanwhile, Caylee's grandparents, George and Cindy Anthony, invited WESH 2 News to their home Tuesday.

They are taking a stand against a permanent memorial to Caylee along Suburban Drive.

For the first time in months, George Anthony spoke one-on-one to WESH 2's Bob Kealing.

Caylee's grandparents are getting ready to unveil a Caylee Anthony foundation that will have a search and rescue component like a page from the Texas Equusearch playbook. At the same time, they're coming out against a permanent Caylee memorial along Suburban Drive.

George and Cindy Anthony unveiled a new search boat named for Caylee. They also unveiled plans for a Caylee Marie Anthony Foundation they both will spearhead.

The boat was built by the Anthony's long time ally Dennis Milstead of Kid Finder's network with $30,000 donated from the Never Lose Hope Foundation.

"They funded the boat and an ATV to start us out with the search group," Milstead said.

"I never want to look for a child in the water or the woods and stuff but if that's what we have to do that's what we're going to have to do," George Anthony said.

Cindy Anthony remained silent as her husband weighed in on the controversy surrounding what to do with the land along Suburban Drive. It's home to the Caylee memorial and currently up for sale.

"This is the kind of tribute I would rather see, not down at the end of the street. I think that's great, don't get me wrong," George Anthony said.

The couple's lawyer said the owner should not sell the land to bounty hunter Leonard Padilla who has talked about establishing a permanent memorial to Caylee.

"I think Mr. Padilla's motives are suspect and he's not the one to memorialize this little girl," George Anthony said.

The Anthonys also said they would like to see a park where children can play as the permanent memorial to Caylee.
Gator

[Native Alien]

"I think Mr. Padilla's motives are suspect and he's not the one to memorialize this little girl," George Anthony said.


I don't think his motives are nearly as suspect as the Anthonys are.

[One2Snoop]

New photos of Casey
published
RadarOnline.com has exclusive pics

Last Edited: Tuesday, 24 Mar 2009, 7:00 PM EDT
Created On: Tuesday, 24 Mar 2009, 6:56 PM EDT

ORLANDO, Fla. (WOFL FOX 35) - New photographs of Casey Anthony at a 2006 Halloween party have been published on Radar magazine's website. Anthony is accused of murdering her daughter, Caylee Marie, whose body was discovered in December in a wooded area not far from the home of the Orlando toddler's grandparents' home in East Orange County. Casey told investigators that a nanny by the name of Zenaida Gonzalez took Caylee in June of 2008. Caylee was not reported missing until mid July.

Click here to view the photos on RadarOnline.com
http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2009/03/exclusive-new-photos-accused-murderer-casey-anthony%E2%80%99s-secret-wild-life

On Tuesday, for the first time since his granddaughter's funeral, George Anthony faced our cameras. The Anthony family sent a text message to FOX 35 reporter Holly Bristow, asking her to meet them at their Hopespring Drive home.

Anthony is scheduled to appear in court again on Wednesday. Orange County Circuit Judge Stan Strickland will sort through accusations about how Anthony's lawyer, Jose Baez, is being paid for his legal services. There have been questions about a possible book or movie deal, but Baez has repeatedly denied any such arrangements.

MyFoxOrlando.com will provide a live stream of the hearing, which is scheduled to begin at 10:30 a.m.

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news/032409_New_photos_of_Casey_published

[One2Snoop]

http://i44.tinypic.com/33cxca0.gif I never got wild like that LOL....

http://i42.tinypic.com/dlrdk1.jpg

[lorettalockhorn]

I don't think his motives are nearly as suspect as the Anthonys are.

AMEN! OR Dennis Milstead.

They want to form a group that functions like TES yet wouldn't cooperate while TES spent $70,000 to search for Caylee. These people are ffreaks.

[Gatordog]

AMEN! OR Dennis Milstead.

They want to form a group that functions like TES yet wouldn't cooperate while TES spent $70,000 to search for Caylee. These people are ffreaks.

Loretta, once again you have hit the nail right on the head. I wish I could use a hammer and hit these people on the head. This family refused help to search the ground for their missing child and now they want to form an organization to do just that. TES was searching the ground and water and was accused of wanting Caylee to be dead. I wish these Ants would just crawl back under a rock.

Gator

[Zingo]

At least Padilla is straightforward...maybe too much so, but I'll take that if I had to choose.

Considering their demonstrated searching skills, I would not be relieved to have them searching for my missing child.

LOL... Java, you have such a way with words. It is absolutely beyond comprehension to have the Anthonys setting up a foundation to look for missing children. Caylee never really was missing. She was dumped like garbage by her own mother in her own neighborhood.

[Native Alien]

LOL... Java, you have such a way with words. It is absolutely beyond comprehension to have the Anthonys setting up a foundation to look for missing children. Caylee never really was missing. She was dumped like garbage by her own mother in her own neighborhood.

I believe that you and Java both hit the nail right on the head. I also believe that someone needs to hit the Anthonys on the head with that same hammer.

Sad just sad. They really do not see what they are doing to their own creditability and how this is all going to come back to haunt them in the long run.

[sharlock]

That looks just like the outfit that "naughty" Casey look-alike was wearing in THAT photo.

And as for the "search boat", are they going to take a page out of the Casey manual? Name it the SS Skank and pull it into dockside bars looking for missing children?
Nah, that is the card outfit.
Joe Kuhl the hard rock locker is mentioned in Shirley Pleaseys interview and she said taht is where Casey was supposed to be keeping her money?

[joekuhl79]

Nah, that is the card outfit.
Joe Kuhl the hard rock locker is mentioned in Shirley Pleaseys interview and she said taht is where Casey was supposed to be keeping her money?

Sharlock...thanks to you and Danagher for answering my questions!

I did read through most of her transcript...it figures the parts I skip are where the locker is mentioned!

As far as the party pics go? To me, that looks like a typical party. And typically, someone would get a babysitter if they had kids. What Liar did, I don't know...

[shadydaisy]

The whole thing with the boat and starting their own foundation for missing children totally infuriates me! They are completely delusional. TES was there for them, they wouldn't cooperate. They need to be ignored and not given the opportunity to spread their crap around any longer. What are they going to do - start an organization for imaginary people - only look for living people? When people are missing you can hope their alive but you look for them, no matter what. I can't give C&G any slack, anymore, ever.

[Native Alien]

The whole thing with the boat and starting their own foundation for missing children totally infuriates me! They are completely delusional. TES was there for them, they wouldn't cooperate. They need to be ignored and not given the opportunity to spread their crap around any longer. What are they going to do - start an organization for imaginary people - only look for living people? When people are missing you can hope their alive but you look for them, no matter what. I can't give C&G any slack, anymore, ever.

I have to agree with you shadydaisy.

[joekuhl79]

Ummm....watching the stream....Baez is speaking...and I wonder...is he playing dumb? Or is he REALLY dumb?!

[joekuhl79]

Baez looks/sounds guilty...I think it's going to come out that he made SOME kind of deal...



EDIT: Okay, maybe not...he doesn't appear to be hiding anything...(or MUCH of anything)

[joekuhl79]

Judge is swearing 'Ms Anthony' in...isn't that kind of pointless?

[joekuhl79]

Anyone watch this?

At the very end, the prosecution got pissed and said to the judge that "the state doesn't need to keep being reminded of its obligations' (or something to that effect) regarding 'leaks' as mentioned by Bozo...

Then someone said "I'm getting sick of this"...I'm not sure who that was?


And again, it seemed Liar did not even look at her parents? Or did I miss that part?

[Tamarrow]

How can anyone take Jose Baez seriously with that goofy grin always planted on his face. *Shivers* gives me the creeps. He looks like a child just before he does something naughty.

[Tamarrow]

Anyone watch this?

At the very end, the prosecution got pissed and said to the judge that "the state doesn't need to keep being reminded of its obligations' (or something to that effect) regarding 'leaks' as mentioned by Bozo...

Then someone said "I'm getting sick of this"...I'm not sure who that was?


And again, it seemed Liar did not even look at her parents? Or did I miss that part?


It was the Judge who said " I'm getting tired of this".

I didn't see her look towards her parents at all.

[Amy]

Baez looks/sounds guilty...I think it's going to come out that he made SOME kind of deal...



EDIT: Okay, maybe not...he doesn't appear to be hiding anything...(or MUCH of anything)

When I turned the TV on this am, Jamie Floyd had the hearing (rehash) on. My question is---OKay. There is NO CASEY Anthony story being used to pay his fees. BUT--could they be using the CAYLEE Anthony story? Just a little technicality of CASEY/CAYLEE. Your comment about Baez looks/sounds guilty makes me wonder. I know my kids, their friends, and even some of the young things I work with today---you have to be SPECIFIC--otherwise they are attempting to slip one over on you. I can see Baez saying, well, we were asked about the CASEY Anthony story, and we did not sell that. No one ASKED if we were selling the CAYLEE Anthony story.

[One2Snoop]

Okay, I'll admit it...I went to Websleuths. They yammer about ever word spoken in real time, the next best thing if you can't get the feed.

You know the TOS says we aren't allowed to mention that word here. :no:

























Just Kidding. :biggrin:

[One2Snoop]

Fight, fight, fight! Its been put up on wftv...

http://www.wftv.com/video/19010429/index.html

I wish some bailiff would do us all a favor and slap the smug off of JB!

Is there a transcript up yet? I'll go look. I'm on an ancient puter right now that doesn't get video feed for some reason.

[One2Snoop]

you scared me! For a moment i felt like i'd invoked beelzebub in notre dame!


lol!

[One2Snoop]

You gotta see it when you can! The only thing missing was Star Trek fight music! JB made the SA sputter, it was outrageous. I can only imagine what the punk is like in chambers.

I haven't found a transcript yet...but I'll pop it here when I find one.

Thanks - I'm stuck on this dinosaur for the next 3 hours so I won't be able to watch it until later today.

[One2Snoop]

Judge: No Conflict Of Interest In Casey Anthony Case

Posted: 12:24 pm EDT March 24, 2009Updated: 12:22 pm EDT March 25, 2009
ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. -- In another legal victory for Casey Anthony's defense team, Judge Stan Strickland ruled Wednesday there is no conflict of interest in Jose Baez serving as Casey's attorney.

Casey was in court wearing a long-sleeve purple shirt and blue pants (see images). George and Cindy Anthony were also present at the 10:30am hearing, along with their attorney, Brad Conway.

The hearing was scheduled to discuss a possible conflict of interest and whether the defense has any book or movie deals that could be influencing the direction of the case. In the state's motion (read motion), it reads, her "seeming conversion from pauper to princess did not come from the sale of some tangible asset."

Casey's attorney, Jose Baez, filed his response (read motion) as well as filed an affidavit from his client Casey Anthony (read Casey's response).

"It's come up, so I have to deal with it," Judge Stan Strickland said Wednesday in court. "I'm going to make a couple of inquiries ... part of this is just to protect your client."

Attorney Jose Baez argued that any inquiries be made "in camera," a legal term for in private.

"I have to determine whether a conflict or not exists," the judge said. "She can either waive the conflict or say she wants a new lawyer."

The judge then asked Baez to assert that it's true that nothing is be sold.

"The undersigned's Retainer Agreement does not contain any clauses allowing him financial gain based on selling the rights to Ms. Casey Anthony's story, nor are there any other instruments giving Defense counsel or any third party the rights to Ms. Casey Anthony's story," Judge Strickland quoted from Baez's motion.

Baez asserted his statements to the judge and denied any literary rights exist.

Judge Stickland then swore in Casey Anthony to discuss the affidavit that was filed (raw video). She said all the items in her sworn affidavit are true.

Then, after a brief recession while the judge and attorneys met in private to discuss matter, the judge made his ruling (raw video).

"As far as I'm concerned, the matter has been resolved," Judge Strickland said. "I'm convinced, as we sit here today, that no conflict exists. I think we've covered the bases. The court is not going to issue an order per se. this was just a motion to determine if a conflict existed."

WFTV legal expert Bill Sheaffer said, several weeks ago, if Anthony's attorney made a deal to sell her story then Casey could potentially use that deal to appeal if she is convicted. Some prosecutors think it's very possible Baez sold Casey's story to cover legal fees.

"She will say and do whatever it takes and have her attorneys do and say whatever it takes for her to gain an acquittal in the case," Eyewitness News legal expert Bill Sheaffer said.

The defense has admitted to selling images of Casey and Caylee. WFTV has reported that they've received almost $200,000 for some of the photographs.

Also Wednesday, lawyers for Zenaida Gonzalez will question the Anthony family's two private investigators, Jim Hoover and Dominic Casey, in the civil case against Casey Anthony. Gonzalez is suing because she has the same name as the mystery nanny who Casey blamed for Caylee's disappearance.

http://www.wftv.com/news/19002037/detail.html#-

[lorettalockhorn]

You know the TOS says we aren't allowed to mention that word here. :no:

























Just Kidding. :biggrin:

LMAO Talk about a Ssssssssssssnake pit!

[One2Snoop]

Casey Anthony case: Judge shows his disgust with bickering
posted by halboedeker on Mar 25, 2009 12:35:09 PM

There were fireworks and headlines in the Casey Anthony saga this morning.

The main headline: Judge Stan Strickland says he sees no conflict of interest in Jose Baez representing the young mother. She is charged with the first-degree murder of her child, Caylee. The state was concerned that Baez could have made entertainment deals that might be the basis for an appeal in the case. Baez says he has done nothing unethical in representing his client.

Another headline: Anthony has a retainer agreement with attorney Linda Kenney Baden as well as Baez.

Anthony evidently shared details -- in the judge's chambers -- of how she's paying for her high-profile defense team.

But noon newscasts were especially interested in the fireworks between the defense team and prosecutors as this morning's hearing ended.

"Even the judge showed his disgust for it," WFTV-Channel 9's Kathi Belich said.

WESH-Channel 2's Bob Kealing described the "terse exchange" between Baez and prosecutor Jeff Ashton. Kealing added, "Judge Strickland said, 'This is getting old and I'm getting tired of it.' "

WKMG-Channel 6's Mike DeForest said of the exchange, "The judge definitely [was] frustrated by the antics."

DeForest also talked to Baez. "Baez says prosecutors should be more worried about prosecuting Casey and not worrying about any kind of appeal," DeForest said. "He says they shouldn't be spiking the ball before they get to the end zone. And Baez says Casey is innocent."

During the hearing, George Anthony, Casey's father, could be seen smiling or deep in thought. WFTV's Belich described Casey Anthony's court look as "dressed casually but conservatively with a navy pullover sweater with gray pants."

http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2009/03/casey-anthony-case--8.html

[joekuhl79]

Is there a transcript up yet? I'll go look. I'm on an ancient puter right now that doesn't get video feed for some reason.

Transcript schmanscript! You have to see the video!

BZ Bozo Baez deliberately pushes the prosecutors buttons, complaining to the judge about "leaks". The judge starts to mention that everyone should be following his orders (something like that). Prosecutor stands up to remind everyone that the state doesn't need to be reminded of its duty, but then he changes his mind and says "Yes your honor". But by then he's flustered, and Bozo leans over and says "Are you okay?" with that sh!t-eater grin of his. Prosecutor says "NO!" and that's when the judge piped in with "I'm tired of this!"

[Gatordog]

The whole thing with the boat and starting their own foundation for missing children totally infuriates me! They are completely delusional. TES was there for them, they wouldn't cooperate. They need to be ignored and not given the opportunity to spread their crap around any longer. What are they going to do - start an organization for imaginary people - only look for living people? When people are missing you can hope their alive but you look for them, no matter what. I can't give C&G any slack, anymore, ever.

Shady, I couldn't agree more. So, they have a boat which cost $30K along with an ATV all paid for with donated money. You can buy a decent bass boat and ATV for under $10K and modify them to the needs. If they are going to look for "live" missing people, why do you need a boat with sonar and such? Why do you even need a boat? You'd be able to see them from the shore. Something stinks here. I think the Feds need to run an investigation on these expenditures from donated money.

Gator

[Gatordog]

I can't believe how he gets kind of confrontational yet palsy, if that makes sense...it's like he thinks that since he is elevated to this level of case, they are equals or something. He'd be better palling around with his students at the local well.

Well, SA will be taking JB to school, imo...I just hope he doesn't have a stroke in the process. (edit: SA, not JB. Couldn't care less about him.)

Bozo to States's Attorney http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-taunt003.gif (http://www.freesmileys.org)

gator

[Gatordog]

Maybe Ariel will be kidnapped. That group is as likely to find the little mermaid as a missing kid, imo.

George and Cindy out on their new boat searching for missing people:

http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-sport036.gif (http://www.freesmileys.org)

gator

[JLette]

Bozo to States's Attorney http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-taunt003.gif (http://www.freesmileys.org)

gator

LMAO hahaha that's a good one!!!!

[Gatordog]

Wait'll a jury gets a load of Jerk!Lawyer...they will have jaw-drop moments. This could well be the most amazing trial in years. I can't wait to see Jose try a case...Is Casey really too stupid to see what a horrible job he's doing (imo)? I mean, the judge is ripping him in front of her, "Oh, that must be a good sign! Nobody likes the Establishment! That will make the jurors LOVE me!" :confused:

http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-shocked016.gif (http://www.freesmileys.org)

[Mojo]

dare to dream!

http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-sport036.gif (http://www.freesmileys.org) http://i40.tinypic.com/2qupwdy.jpg

roflmao!! Hahahhaha!

[shadydaisy]

Dare to dream!

http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-sport036.gif (http://www.freesmileys.org) http://i40.tinypic.com/2qupwdy.jpg

Please stop making me laugh out loud while I am at work! I'm sneaking around here....

[One2Snoop]

Wasn't it amazing? And then the judge castigating? I could not believe it when the SA started sputtering and fighting not to say what he really wanted, and then Baez just had to push him over...and you know how peole say she has evil Grinch eyes? I finally placed his smirk-it is the Grinch smirk: http://i36.tinypic.com/dq6pup.jpg

How can he have the stones to accuse the SA of being ethically challenged? He is JOSE BAEZ!

http://i40.tinypic.com/sxf09g.gif LMAO - love it!

[Gatordog]

Dare to dream!

http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-sport036.gif (http://www.freesmileys.org) http://i40.tinypic.com/2qupwdy.jpg

Java, two great one's in a row. Too funny.

Gator

[Gatordog]

Did the Bible smoke?!

Did you notice that she said she only signed one agreement with JB, and then JB was saying they had signed 2 agreements? Not that he corrected her or anything...

Yup, I caught that too. Bozo didn't bother mentioning that to the Judge until the Judge requested that the documents be turned over for his review.

It was nice of the Judge to have her remain seated. He was probably afraid she would start dirty dancing with the bailiff.

gator

[Gatordog]

But she wasn't an Anthony... was she? Ewww that was so slewthee of me. That woman is sleep walking!!!! Never mind at night!

Ya know OS, I was thinking about their reaction to LP buying that property. It seems once more , those people think that the world is going to oblige their sense of entitlement. This is clearly the example set for Casey as a child. They are demanding that LP NOT be able to purchase that property? Do I have that right?

When anyone loses a child, no matter how; I'm here to tell you that when anyone expresses love for that child, or speaks well of that child after death, any loved one would want to hug that person. The idea that people come to you and realize that the deceased child's life had meaning to them, is absolutely beautiful and it speaks to the heart.

Those people are forever gong to decide who can love Caylee and who can donate meaning to her life. This is sick and disgusting. (Especially because they didn't protect her at all when she was alive)

But, looking back on the dynamics in that house with those people, I recall how Cindy had an Adolf Hitler set of rules and its been discussed that she ran the roost. So now she decides who can have compassion for Caylee and who can't. Same with the memorial. She had the audacity to deny certain people the right to attend and pay their respects to that child! Getouttaheah! She's nuts. :cuss:

I would have welcomed the lowest of folk to kneel before the coffin of a child I loved. i would have been honored by the privilege of having them there to say goodbye to my child with me. It gives the lives of the living so much more meaning. They can be nasty to me later, when the time is right.

I'm long winded today. ;) :cuss:

Hi Nawny. Yes the Anthony's have requested that the land owner not sell the property to Padilla. If he doesn't sell to Padilla, he may be stuck with that land forever, plus we know that it is prone to floods. If the Ants don't want Padilla to have it, then they should pony up the money for it themselves. Since they are so good at taking handouts, they probably want the land owner to give it to them.

Gator

[lorettalockhorn]

Dare to dream!

http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-sport036.gif (http://www.freesmileys.org) http://i40.tinypic.com/2qupwdy.jpg

What a scream!!!!!!! I guess I'd get a spanking from DeepH2O for posting porno if I conjectured what the defense team has that could swallow up that whale. :hat:

[lorettalockhorn]

The only thing i can come up with is baby steps-Bozo is a hands on learner lol. Seriously tho i think that is yet to come. Yes his only real hope in h/e/l/l is to try to get the nanny theory thrown out. And some jurors have been living under a rock. The TH's were discussing this recently and i cant remember who said what but even if it was thrown out it could come in some other way??? KRAFT disease lol. Mental deficiancy yadayada-i think that will be down the road. I dont bank on this starting in Oct. then again they only said what month-not what year lol MOO

LMAO Just think how long Casey's hair will be in 2012! :hat:

[lorettalockhorn]

Hi Nawny. Yes the Anthony's have requested that the land owner not sell the property to Padilla. If he doesn't sell to Padilla, he may be stuck with that land forever, plus we know that it is prone to floods. If the Ants don't want Padilla to have it, then they should pony up the money for it themselves. Since they are so good at taking handouts, they probably want the land owner to give it to them.

Gator

Honestly, I don't see LP buying the land and setting up a permanent memorial (if zoning would permit it) and maintaining the place and paying insurance rates and preventing an attractive nuisance with the school nearby, etc. etc. BUT the Evil Me likes it that Cindy doesn't like the idea.

[lorettalockhorn]

Hmmmn, so NG is reporting the the "search the woods" tip came from Lee. Anybody surprised?

I think the only one who was surprised was Casey when the body was still there. What a waste...

I must have FFed right past that statement. I wouldn't doubt it one single bit. And I also wouldn't doubt it if D Casey did his scorched earth search close enough but not exactly where the Ants knew Caylee's body was simply for the purpose of the defense claiming that the remains were placed there after that date.

[lorettalockhorn]

I am running in here on idol commercials. Loretta your Arkie boy is GOOD!!!:hat:

There's an Arkie boy on? I've never watched AI, but there was an Arkiesaucer on Project Runway and there's a model from my hometown on Make Me a Supermodel. We're a talented bunch of hillbillies! :hat:

[lorettalockhorn]

Okay, so John Morgan is saying that the detectives never looked for ZFG. But George told the media that they had the kidnappers under surveillance. Didn't he?

Interesting that this is the only physical search for Caylee that D Casey ever actually made.

[lorettalockhorn]

No wunda i heard buhling over and over. I asked Loretta once what hat guy meant-i forget what she said-i dont think she gave me a clear cut answer. It's sorta something i use alot when replying to her cuz i like hat guy. No troll should use hat guy-thats troll abuse. Here hat guy is a good guy.

The hat guy is a comedian! (And doesn't have ugly teeth like this guy: :biggrin: HAHAHA)

[lorettalockhorn]

Well, Loretta, you don't have to look for someone if you already know where they are. hahhaha, I'm kidding. No nanny, never as a nanny, no one ever thought there was a nanny. The Zenaida they had under surveillance was Casey, of course! So it was true, in a twisted sort of way...(imo)

Well, you know that and I know that and the media knows that, but it's just another case of George lying that could bite him in the ass when it comes time for a jury to consider him a bereaved grandparent.

OT: But I'm still laughing a little at the thought of NG saying that Baez needs to cut out the smirking. Considering how much she snarls and sneers it's just too rich! Agree with the TH who told Nancy that Bozo wanted to get under Ashton's skin and he succeeded.

[lorettalockhorn]

Yep and he is talented,humble and a cutie patootie-from Conway. Ive been to Conway. Was so sorry to see what happened to that big beautiful church in Atkins last year. I know off topic-back to idol.

It's pretty serious when you go OT from an OT!!! We've made it almost three full months this year without a tornado in our neck of the woods. The ones on 1/16/08 and 2/5/08 were killers. The one in Atkins is indirectly responsible for putting Leroy in the hospital for a week with a bloodclot. (Which is kind of amusing if you think watching your hub fall twenty feet out of a tree with an engaged chainsaw is amusing. :eek: ) Yet we still count our blessings that we suffered little damage.

[SuzDuJour]

Fight, fight, fight! Its been put up on wftv...

http://www.wftv.com/video/19010429/index.html

I wish some bailiff would do us all a favor and slap the smug off of JB!

Thank you so much for posting this link! OMG, JB does make you want to smack him. He's so proud of himself...geeesh. I did notice Ms. Casey didn't even look back as she left, nor did she even say Thank You to her lawyers, which seems socially unacceptable since they are OBVIOUSLY doing pro bono work. NOT... Oh Lord, I just used 'Casey' and 'socially unacceptable' in the same sentence, as if that didn't go without saying any way you look at it!

[Justice Denied?]

Anyone watch this?

At the very end, the prosecution got pissed and said to the judge that "the state doesn't need to keep being reminded of its obligations' (or something to that effect) regarding 'leaks' as mentioned by Bozo...

Then someone said "I'm getting sick of this"...I'm not sure who that was?


And again, it seemed Liar did not even look at her parents? Or did I miss that part?

Joe,

I think Baez is stupid in a lot of ways but this was a smart move today. He got the prosecutor mad and his mind off the case itself. Good move on his part. If it is this heated in March, can you just see October? Should be plenty of fireworks.JMO, MOO

[Justice Denied?]

I'm banking that by then the SA will be calm or at least numb to Bozo's clown college antics. Ya never let the enemy see your vulnerable spot. He handed them that today. He realized,sat down but then caved. I think by then they will be toughened up. Bozo's so desperate he is reduced to psychological tactics to throw them off their game a bit. That had to smart-bet he is kicking himself now and wont repeat it. Here's hoping. MOO

I totally agree with you. I think that is one reason it is good for the prosecution that Baez has filed all the garbage motions. The State gets a look at his tactics and hopefully by trial time will know how to combat them.

[One2Snoop]

I missed the eyebrow thing-Does she have a unibrow? Guess i was more focused on Bozo and the smirk-it made me laugh cuz i thought he looked like a preening peacock. Proud career moment for him??? Wow :D

Oh, I think that grinch profile fits him perfectly LOL.

[lighthousedazy]

You guys really think JB did this today as part of strategy? Wow, IMO you're giving him waaaaaaaaaaay too much credit. I think it played out that way, to his advantage...then the smirk, as if he could take credit. AS, the judge, and others are just fed up with his bad lawyering and his bs motions, and have been (as we know) and it finally came out. Baez should realize it's not going to help him with Strickland if he decides to play it up after this. Anyone would be offended and pissed off dealing with a moron like Baez bumbling around and not doing things according to proper protocol. It's a wonder AS didn't blow sooner.

As for that smirk and hers too..........She is such an ignorant ****, that she actually thinks he's doing a wonderful job, not realizing the Pros are aggravated not because he's so damn good, but because he's so damn inept!

As NG said to Mike Brooks tonight ~ who are the ones playing to the media all the time? Whining and complaining.... So, I say let the ingrates 'smirk on'...........or shall we bring up to them the monumental amount of phone calls to and from Zani and Casey....NOT. ( Can you see ME smirking?) :D

Still smirking here.....she had better cut down on those pork rinds AND get her self a better waxer :tongue:her eyebrows make me want to throw up.Excellente.. The post of the day. I think Baez just got lucky too. jmo ;)

[Gatordog]

Honestly, I don't see LP buying the land and setting up a permanent memorial (if zoning would permit it) and maintaining the place and paying insurance rates and preventing an attractive nuisance with the school nearby, etc. etc. BUT the Evil Me likes it that Cindy doesn't like the idea.


The Cowboy is too smart for that - he already said he would donate it to the county for the park. Plus the landowner is asking $89K and Padilla came up with $50K. I don't think that property will be changing hands anytime soon, unless the owner takes the $50K. I suppose there might be some wealthy crazy person out there who would want it so he could look for more bones.

Gator

[Gatordog]

She has a paralyzed truth button and no edit button. She can't tell the truth, it's simply impossible. It's like trying got get a lizard to ride a bike.

Uh Oh - you just opened the door for Loretta or OS to find a photo or some artwork. LOL

Gator

[Gatordog]

I know i wish Ashton had not given him that-oh well he will get many more chances to watch Bozo's blood pressure skyrocket. I would luv to ask the Ant's where THEY physically searched for Caylee instead of telling folks to get off their azzz's to look. So Nancy not so Gracefull thinks he smirks too much? A spade is a spade and a clown is a clown? What doesn't she get? LOL:hat:

Cindy searched her yard with a hammer while posting no tresspassing signs and caution tape. George drove around Winter Park with his stupid sign donated by KidFinders. In other words, not one person set one foot anywhere. Oh, and let's not forget that they did go to the Florida Mall to try to view the video tape of that little girl in the play area at the same time that their sleuth of a detective, Dominick the Donkey, knew Caylee's body was on Suburban Drive.

Gator

[Gatordog]

Speaking of Dominick the Donkey, he did not show up for the deposition yesterday. He's lawyered up with his own criminal attorney.

Hmmm, John Morgan says that Dominick knew where Caylee's body was one month before it was found - through a tip. A tip that he did not share with the police. Is that hampering an investigation? Aiding and Abetting? Please, let it be something.

The only question I have for LE is "Why is Casey Anthony the only one sitting in jail right now?" I would think that a whole floor or "dorm" should be filled with the two Queen Ants and all their workers. There should be a whole frigging Ant Colony at the Thirty-third Street jail.

Gator

[Gatordog]

Did anyone notice Jose Baez' facial expression when the SA stated that the case law he mentioned was from a case in Puerto Rico? Mr. Baez does not seem fond Puerto Rico. That's why he wants to move the trial to Miami - otherwise known as Little Havana. He will have an easier time in Miami convincing jurors that a Puerto Rican woman stole and killed Caylee.

Gator

[Gatordog]

Okay, so John Morgan is saying that the detectives never looked for ZFG. But George told the media that they had the kidnappers under surveillance. Didn't he?

Interesting that this is the only physical search for Caylee that D Casey ever actually made.

Of course George had the kidnapper under surveillance at the time. She was out of jail on bond and living in his house. He couldn't help but see her. :D

Gator

[lorettalockhorn]

Uh Oh - you just opened the door for Loretta or OS to find a photo or some artwork. LOL

Gator

http://i40.tinypic.com/348fsb4.jpg

[lorettalockhorn]

The Cowboy is too smart for that - he already said he would donate it to the county for the park. Plus the landowner is asking $89K and Padilla came up with $50K. I don't think that property will be changing hands anytime soon, unless the owner takes the $50K. I suppose there might be some wealthy crazy person out there who would want it so he could look for more bones.

Gator

Thanks Gator, donating the land went right over my head. That's quite a discount Lenny's asking for.

[shadydaisy]

The Cowboy is too smart for that - he already said he would donate it to the county for the park. Plus the landowner is asking $89K and Padilla came up with $50K. I don't think that property will be changing hands anytime soon, unless the owner takes the $50K. I suppose there might be some wealthy crazy person out there who would want it so he could look for more bones.

Gator

Gator, you'll know better than I would, is it a desirable piece of property? We know the area floods, Caylee was found there, and no matter what is done with it wouldn't it still become some sort of memorial (even if random people just left things). Is it zoned commercial? A fast-food joint may not much care. Now are parents of kids at the nearby school fighting a permanent memorial?

I hope the sunflowers you planted have started to grow!

[lorettalockhorn]

Gator, you'll know better than I would, is it a desirable piece of property? We know the area floods, Caylee was found there, and no matter what is done with it wouldn't it still become some sort of memorial (even if random people just left things). Is it zoned commercial? A fast-food joint may not much care. Now are parents of kids at the nearby school fighting a permanent memorial?

I hope the sunflowers you planted have started to grow!

Daisy, if you go to the OC property appraiser site, you can find the property; Parcel #13-23-30-1290-00-021

I can't tell how it's zoned. :confused:

http://paarcgis.ocpafl.org/Webmap4/default.aspx

[Gatordog]

I do remember him-luved him-from Arizona i think? I cant remember his name-Kraft disease here LOL I can picture him. Smart man and made sense.

Are you thinking of the attorney from Wyoming? Gerry Spence. Haven't heard from him in a while. Always wore a buck skin jacket with fringe.

Gator

[Gatordog]

Gator, you'll know better than I would, is it a desirable piece of property? We know the area floods, Caylee was found there, and no matter what is done with it wouldn't it still become some sort of memorial (even if random people just left things). Is it zoned commercial? A fast-food joint may not much care. Now are parents of kids at the nearby school fighting a permanent memorial?

I hope the sunflowers you planted have started to grow!

There is only one street to the area which is Suburban and it dead ends at the school. It most likely is zoned residential because you have to enter a subdivision to get to the property. It is a very nice, middle class neighborhood and I wouldn't mind living in it but that end of the street does flood, so in order to build anything, you would need thousands and thousands of dollars worth of fill dirt. It's in an area which was really being built up but now with housing the way it is, everything has stopped. My thinking is the best thing for the property is for the county to buy it and turn it into a rention pond. There is a rention pond at the beginning of Suburban on the other side of the street. Perhaps, since the area floods, they need another one.

Gator

[shadydaisy]

You are right, Gator. A retention pond sounds like the way to go. The property would serve a much needed function. I have difficulty with someone buying the property and building a family home on it.....maybe it's just me, but wouldn't it always be know as the place where they found Caylee's bones?

And thanks for the property site!

[Justice Denied?]

I'm thinking, what is he trying to prove with his career, that he's an excellent attorney with a forte for strategy, or an a**wipe who bumbles and incites the judge and his peers (which supposedly the pros are)? How many times have we heard about them all (def and pros) mingling together outside of work when not working together? This is supposedly a job, nothing personal.
So far, he's being investigated for inappropriate behavior with his client, with the money and shady practices with the people he had on this defense team (todd Black), and other questionable things.....A great reputation for sure.

Hey, I'd say he's off to a good start! He'll get lots of return business after this ~ and make lots of friends whose help he can use later on! Go Baez!

I hope hat one of Baez's new friends will loan him a suitcase when this case is over. He will probably want to get out of town in a hurry. JMO

[Amy]

But she wasn't an Anthony... was she? Ewww that was so slewthee of me. That woman is sleep walking!!!! Never mind at night!

Ya know OS, I was thinking about their reaction to LP buying that property. It seems once more , those people think that the world is going to oblige their sense of entitlement. This is clearly the example set for Casey as a child. They are demanding that LP NOT be able to purchase that property? Do I have that right?

When anyone loses a child, no matter how; I'm here to tell you that when anyone expresses love for that child, or speaks well of that child after death, any loved one would want to hug that person. The idea that people come to you and realize that the deceased child's life had meaning to them, is absolutely beautiful and it speaks to the heart.

Those people are forever gong to decide who can love Caylee and who can donate meaning to her life. This is sick and disgusting. (Especially because they didn't protect her at all when she was alive)

But, looking back on the dynamics in that house with those people, I recall how Cindy had an Adolf Hitler set of rules and its been discussed that she ran the roost. So now she decides who can have compassion for Caylee and who can't. Same with the memorial. She had the audacity to deny certain people the right to attend and pay their respects to that child! Getouttaheah! She's nuts. :cuss:

I would have welcomed the lowest of folk to kneel before the coffin of a child I loved. i would have been honored by the privilege of having them there to say goodbye to my child with me. It gives the lives of the living so much more meaning. They can be nasty to me later, when the time is right.

I'm long winded today. ;) :cuss:

IMO, the A's could certainly suggest/request the property owner to not sell to LP, but the decision would be up to the owner. Or, if the A's made an offer equal to or greater than what LP offers, maybe they could get the land instead of LP. I don't see them spending any of their ill-gotten means on the place where their granddaughter was found, tho.

I tho't a PUBLIC memorial was just that--open to THE PUBLIC. So, I don't think I would call Caylee's memorial a public one @ all. And to ban people who spent more time and money than the A's to find their granddaughter--now, that is a slap in the face!!! Which is pretty much expected from Cindy, IMO.

I just can't imagine, if a child of mine was to go missing, to contact the services of people who did next to nothing (driving a billboard with a disconnected #, providing LE w/misinformation, mistruths and whatnot) to find their own granddaughter. I just don't think I could trust them to do much @ all to find my loved one.

[JLette]

Sounds like a good resolution. Can you imagine being the real estate agent handling the "Caylee Marie Death Swamp"? Even if you sold to foreigners, you would have to disclose, and they would be bound to notice the enormous memorial. Very thankless job. I hope they come up with an idea, because what is there now looks like something from a Louisiana ghost story...

they should really do something to make it less scary to look at, and maybe if they changed the lay of the land there then it would bring down the number of those weirdos who just like to go to places like that for the sake of being there, and saying "i saw where they found so and so's body"

[applesandorange]

IMO, the A's could certainly suggest/request the property owner to not sell to LP, but the decision would be up to the owner. Or, if the A's made an offer equal to or greater than what LP offers, maybe they could get the land instead of LP. I don't see them spending any of their ill-gotten means on the place where their granddaughter was found, tho.

I tho't a PUBLIC memorial was just that--open to THE PUBLIC. So, I don't think I would call Caylee's memorial a public one @ all. And to ban people who spent more time and money than the A's to find their granddaughter--now, that is a slap in the face!!! Which is pretty much expected from Cindy, IMO.

I just can't imagine, if a child of mine was to go missing, to contact the services of people who did next to nothing (driving a billboard with a disconnected #, providing LE w/misinformation, mistruths and whatnot) to find their own granddaughter. I just don't think I could trust them to do much @ all to find my loved one.



Amy, I agree with everyting you have written here. I was thinking about that the other night and there is NO way in the world I would EVER let the A's search for one of my children. You can't trust them. I hate to say no and never when I've never been there to truly know but this is something I am 100% sure on.

[One2Snoop]

CASEY ANTHONY CASE
Casey Anthony should not answer questions in civil case, attorney says
Casey Anthony's attorney wants civil court to put questioning off until criminal case is done.

Sarah Lundy | Sentinel Staff Writer
2:07 PM EDT, March 26, 2009

The attorney for Casey Anthony in her civil case this week filed paperwork, saying the 23-year-old mother should not have to answer questions while her criminal case is pending.

Every question proposed is "inextricably intertwined" with her first-degree murder case, wrote Fort Lauderdale-based attorney Jonathan Kasen in the four-page document.

Casey Anthony invoked her Fifth Amendment right to remain silent through nearly all the 29 written questions posed in the defamation case.

Lawyers for Zenaida Gonzalez, the Kissimmee woman suing Casey Anthony, want Orange Circuit Court Judge Jose R. Rodriguez to force Casey Anthony to answer the questions. They issued the written questions earlier this year.

Gonzalez is suing Anthony for more than $15,000 in damages. She claims she lost her job and suffered humiliation and public embarrassment after Anthony told investigators that a baby sitter by the same name took her 2-year-old child, Caylee Marie.

The toddler's remains were found six months later in December in a wooded area near Casey Anthony's family home. Kasen wrote in the motion filed Wednesday that Casey Anthony told detectives that Gonzalez – the one suing her – is not the baby sitter. Detectives showed her a picture of Gonzalez and Casey Anthony reported that she had never "seen that lady in her life."

Casey Anthony described the baby sitter as being around 24 years old and having no children. Gonzalez – the one suing her – is a 38-year-old mother of six.

Gonzalez's attorneys haven't questioned the detectives – a move they should have done before attempting to question Casey Anthony, Kasen wrote.

And, Casey Anthony's brother, Lee Anthony, who was questioned by attorneys under oath, said Gonzalez – the one involved in the lawsuit – is not the woman described by his sister.

Kasen is asking the judge to stop Gonzalez's attorneys from getting the questions answered while the criminal case is pending. No hearing date has been set.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/orl-bk-casey-anthony-questioning-032609,0,911964.story

[Its just me]

Daisy, if you go to the OC property appraiser site, you can find the property; Parcel #13-23-30-1290-00-021

I can't tell how it's zoned. :confused:

http://paarcgis.ocpafl.org/Webmap4/default.aspx

Hope it's ok to join in. It looks like the lot is included in a home owners association which I think would have an input on what is built on the lot. imoo

0019 - VACANT H.O.A.:
VACANT HOME OWNERS ASSOCIATION

[lorettalockhorn]

Hope it's ok to join in. It looks like the lot is included in a home owners association which I think would have an input on what is built on the lot. imoo

0019 - VACANT H.O.A.:
VACANT HOME OWNERS ASSOCIATION

Where ya been stranger?

I see the HOA designation, but not sure about the zoning, which is a completely different tag in AR. For instance, a residential area might be zoned for single family dwellings, multi-family dwellings (apartments), quiet business (ex: CPA or bookkeeping), etc.; in other words the type of habitation that can acutally go on in the building and the building itself. I would think that traffic and parking would be an issue on Suburban, especially with the school traffic. Maybe not.

[Gatordog]

Florida is getting so many weird crimes they are going to start rivalling LA for the Death Tour business. I wonder if Florida crime gets so much attention because of the Sunshine laws, and its really not worse than everywhere else?

Though my friend at Dr. Phil says Florida provides the most eccentric guests for the show, oddly enough :)

Yes, Florida gets them all - if they're not from here, they come here to commit their crimes. Don't forget the vampire crazy, Rod Farrell, came to Central Florida and killed a couple. Plus, Florida's cities are jammed packed crowded leading to a very strange mix of people. By that I mean you can have someone with an MBA, drives a BMW and plays tennis living next to someone who wants to raise chickens and drives a monster truck to go "muddin".

Gator

[Its just me]

Where ya been stranger?

I see the HOA designation, but not sure about the zoning, which is a completely different tag in AR. For instance, a residential area might be zoned for single family dwellings, multi-family dwellings (apartments), quiet business (ex: CPA or bookkeeping), etc.; in other words the type of habitation that can acutally go on in the building and the building itself. I would think that traffic and parking would be an issue on Suburban, especially with the school traffic. Maybe not.

I'm laying low with my posting. I get too involved and I've got a couple of projects I trying to tackle.

I looked for the zoning information but I only found Property Use that appears to be the same thing. From what I'm getting Florida must use code numbers with description to show how the land is zoned. The link below shows all the code numbers with the description. I'm posting a snip to show the 0019 which is the code number for the lot. I can only guess but I think the owner of the land is a member of the homeowners association and what is put on the lot will have to go by the rules of that Homeowners Association unless the "property use" is changed. IMHOO The big hat guy may need to check before he buys it for a park. fep



http://www.ocpafl.org/pls/webappI/get_codes?p_code=propuse

Property Use
CODE DESCRIPTION
0000 VACANT RESIDENTIAL
0001 VACANT RESIDENTIAL
0019 VACANT HOME OWNERS ASSOCIATION
0030 VACANT WATER
0031 VACANT CANAL FRONTAGE
0035 VACANT LAKE VIEW
0040 VACANT GOLF FRONT
0100 SINGLE FAMILY



Parcel Id13-23-30-1290-00-021
LocationMunicipalityUNINC ORG CNTY, FLORIDA
Millage Rate16.4233 details (http://www.ocpafl.org/pls/webappI/show_millage_rates?pid=302313129000021&MillCode=11&CityCode=ORG&tax_year=2008)
Property Use0019 (http://www.ocpafl.org/pls/webappI/get_codes?p_code=propuse)

[Gatordog]

http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-transport029.gif (http://www.freesmileys.org)

Here's the bus, now where's the Liar? I'm ready to throw her under and drive over her.

Gator

[lorettalockhorn]

I'm laying low with my posting. I get too involved and I've got a couple of projects I trying to tackle.

I looked for the zoning information but I only found Property Use that appears to be the same thing. From what I'm getting Florida must use code numbers with description to show how the land is zoned. The link below shows all the code numbers with the description. I'm posting a snip to show the 0019 which is the code number for the lot. I can only guess but I think the owner of the land is a member of the homeowners association and what is put on the lot will have to go by the rules of that Homeowners Association unless the "property use" is changed. IMHOO The big hat guy may need to check before he buys it for a park. fep



http://www.ocpafl.org/pls/webappI/get_codes?p_code=propuse

Property Use
CODE DESCRIPTION
0000 VACANT RESIDENTIAL
0001 VACANT RESIDENTIAL
0019 VACANT HOME OWNERS ASSOCIATION
0030 VACANT WATER
0031 VACANT CANAL FRONTAGE
0035 VACANT LAKE VIEW
0040 VACANT GOLF FRONT
0100 SINGLE FAMILY



Parcel Id13-23-30-1290-00-021
LocationMunicipalityUNINC ORG CNTY, FLORIDA
Millage Rate16.4233 details (http://www.ocpafl.org/pls/webappI/show_millage_rates?pid=302313129000021&MillCode=11&CityCode=ORG&tax_year=2008)
Property Use0019 (http://www.ocpafl.org/pls/webappI/get_codes?p_code=propuse)

Good luck with your projects! I've been making myself spend more time working in the yard. I'm convinced despite the exposure to every allergen known to man that it's a better exercise than vacuuming. :hat:

If'n you ask me, specific zoning makes more sense than some nebulous property owner's code which on the surface seems like it might differ from one HOA to another. I've read the OC appraiser's site where I got the parcel# and links, etc., but there wasn't much detail as to use.

[Its just me]

Good luck with your projects! I've been making myself spend more time working in the yard. I'm convinced despite the exposure to every allergen known to man that it's a better exercise than vacuuming. :hat:

If'n you ask me, specific zoning makes more sense than some nebulous property owner's code which on the surface seems like it might differ from one HOA to another. I've read the OC appraiser's site where I got the parcel# and links, etc., but there wasn't much detail as to use.

I've worked in my yards all day. Grrrrrrr Hope you don't grow weeds like I do. Don't work to hard.

One2 had posted this on the news thread. Pretty much explains things. I should have listened to the video first. LOL

http://cfnews13.com/MediaPlayer2/MediaPlayer.htm?video=0323PadillaLandOS_0323200910 40&cat=CAC&title=Caylee%20Land%20Controversy

[lorettalockhorn]

http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-transport029.gif (http://www.freesmileys.org)

Here's the bus, now where's the Liar? I'm ready to throw her under and drive over her.

Gator

http://i44.tinypic.com/rjr3gp.jpg

So glad to hear Eleanor Dixon (sp?) say on NG that if G&C backpedal they can be impeached. Which will make their asinine attempt to save Casey at the risk of collateralizing Caylee a lost cause.

[lorettalockhorn]

I've worked in my yards all day. Grrrrrrr Hope you don't grow weeds like I do. Don't work to hard.

One2 had posted this on the news thread. Pretty much explains things. I should have listened to the video first. LOL

http://cfnews13.com/MediaPlayer2/MediaPlayer.htm?video=0323PadillaLandOS_0323200910 40&cat=CAC&title=Caylee%20Land%20Controversy

I've tried to listen to that link, but it cuts out on me. I guess the upshot is that the lot is for residential use only.

Honestly, I can't say that I blame the neighbors. I'm such a rabble rouser, I'd probably start a petition to encourage G&C to move away. What with their sh!t magnet capabilities and disdaining the Latino population and all. :rolleyes:

ETA: You better believe I grow weeds!! But I have some good luck too every once in a while. I've got a dozen or so new hostas to plant and bought mulch for my bed. And succumbed to a new fern even though I have 30+ that need haircuts and fertilizing.

[lorettalockhorn]

Well. NG is preaching about the Cindy + D Casey rumors and saying that there wouldn't be talk if the friendship was between George and him. Helllooooo If George is seen canoodling with Donkey or any other man, there would be talk. Or fooling around with another harridan.

[SuzDuJour]

So sounds like no real news on NG tonight-glad i missed it then. Off i go to watch the movie Twilight for the 10th time :hat:

I HEART Edward, too...

[Zingo]

Maybe this has been discussed, but did anyone notice that Liar and Bozo were color coordinated yesterday? She was wearing a nice dark lavendar sweater, and he had a matching purple polka dot tie.

Where's the barf icon when you need it?

I can totally see Bozo doing that on purpose. I truly think he is in love with Liar/Murderer.

Or maybe my eyes were just going bad. It was late.

[lighthousedazy]

Maybe this has been discussed, but did anyone notice that Liar and Bozo were color coordinated yesterday? She was wearing a nice dark lavendar sweater, and he had a matching purple polka dot tie.

Where's the barf icon when you need it?

I can totally see Bozo doing that on purpose. I truly think he is in love with Liar/Murderer.

Or maybe my eyes were just going bad. It was late.I was to busy looking at the facial expressions and trying to grasp what I could from the body language, but I think you are right - he is smitten with the liar. jmo ;)

[Zingo]

I was to busy looking at the facial expressions and trying to grasp what I could from the body language, but I think you are right - he is smitten with the liar. jmo ;)

The sad thing Lighthouse, is that it will only take one juror to be smitten with Casey to get a hung jury. If she gets a really guillable jury we could be looking at an OJ-type "not guilty."

Casey is a cretin. But usually cretins don't look so angelic in their lavendar sweaters.

[Zingo]

Its true. We're a pretty hard-nosed group, don't really notice if she's cute or not because nothing says ugly like evidence...but there are cretins for jurors out there, especially if she really does get a jury of her peers. (Its not like they have a work excuse, lol!)

btw, I miss the Palin shoe! I hardly recognize you;)

Java, thanks for missing the Palin shoe. I miss it, too. I guess I am trying to be more politically ecumenical, instead of instantly annoying anyone of a different political persuasion. We're all just here for the crime-solving, after all. Ha! :-)

I have that avatar as a bumper sticker on my car. I get quite a few smiles as I drive around conservative Kansas. If I lived in my old state of California, I'd probably be arrested for a hate crime. Ha!

[lighthousedazy]

Java, thanks for missing the Palin shoe. I miss it, too. I guess I am trying to be more politically ecumenical, instead of instantly annoying anyone of a different political persuasion. We're all just here for the crime-solving, after all. Ha! :-)

I have that avatar as a bumper sticker on my car. I get quite a few smiles as I drive around conservative Kansas. If I lived in my old state of California, I'd probably be arrested for a hate crime. Ha!Zingo, bring back the Palin shoe. I will try to have faith that President Obama will try to fill his promises and dig this country out of the mess it is in, but Governor Palin is a jewel in the rough and may be what the great USA needs in the longrun. jmo
:patriot:

[Zingo]

If you were in California, you know what Lee and Cindy did to that Caylee memorial? =Your car.

How did my lovely state lose its sense of humor and get so darn angry? ooops, wrong thread!

Java, I'm not really sorry we left the state, if only because of the terrible fiscal situation there now. Actually we lived in Orange County and San Diego, where there were quite a few Republicans. South of Los Angeles is really a mixed bag, politically, because of the large military influence. I lived in Laguna Beach (completely liberal), Irvine (quite conservative), Encinitas in North San Diego County (mixed).

Oh, and Palin is back in my avatar. I couldn't find the shoe. (It's somewhere on my hard-drive) but I found a picture I used on the PUMA message board (Democrats that supported Hillary Clinton, then turned to McCain/Palin).

I really miss Sarah on the campaign trail. It was my obsession last fall to follow every event online. She is my hero for standing up to the Washington establishment, and poking the media in the eye. She should have her own TV show someday.

[One2Snoop]

Key Players To Be Questioned In Casey Case

Posted: 11:49 am EDT March 27, 2009Updated: 12:24 pm EDT March 27, 2009
ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. -- Casey Anthony's attorney Jose Baez will soon question more key players under oath.

Former Anthony family private investigator Jim Hoover and several Orange County sheriffs' investigators will give depositions next week. Four Orange County jail officers will also be questioned.

Two of the jailers witnessed Casey's reaction when she was told about the discovery of Caylee's body.

Casey apparently doubled over and asked for medication.

http://www.wftv.com/news/19028551/detail.html#-

[One2Snoop]

Casey Anthony lawyer Jose Baez gets slammed by former client
Man convicted in Lake County toddler death cites "defectiveness" of Casey Anthony's attorney Jose Baez

Stephen Hudak | Sentinel Staff Writer
3:11 PM EDT, March 27, 2009

TAVARES - A Lake County man, serving a 15-year prison sentence in the death of a toddler, wants his manslaughter and child-abuse convictions overturned, citing judicial and prosecutorial misconduct and the "defectiveness" of his defense lawyer, Jose Baez.

Baez is better known these days as Casey Anthony's lawyer. But last spring he was busy defending Nilton Diaz.

Diaz, 31, insists he did not kill or harm 2-year-old Noeris Vazquez, granddaughter of legendary Puerto Rican prize-fighter Wilfredo Vazquez. Instead, Diaz claims he lost his freedom because of Baez' trial performance, strategy and failure to disclose evidence to prosecutors, a tactical decision that prevented jurors from viewing a defense video.

The video, created by a biomechanical expert, would have shown the jury how the toddler's skull fracture could have been an accident, according to new court filings.

In documents seeking a new trial and other post-conviction relief, Diaz said "...Mr. Baez wanted to surprise the prosecution, and the surprise blew up in the defense's face."

Baez was attending a law seminar today and not immediately available for comment.

A time-share salesman and part-time conga drummer, Diaz was accused of causing the fatal head injury to "Noni" Vazquez, the daughter of his live-in girlfriend, Samaris Bobe Silva, and the boxer's son Noe.

Lake County sheriff's detectives say the injury occurred Feb. 11, 2006, while Diaz was alone with the child.

Silva, who met Diaz while working in housekeeping at a Disney-area resort, had left Diaz alone with the child for 10 minutes.

Diaz remains in state custody at the Taylor Correctional Institution in Perry, Florida.

The motion for a new trial was filed on behalf of Diaz by Alfonzo A. Russi, who provided Lake Circuit Judge Mark Nacke with a letter that linked the imprisoned man with Human Rights Eye Watch Agency, a Texas-based organization "created and dedicated to investigate violations of human rights in the American Hemisphere."

The documents rehash many of the arguments cited by Baez last summer when he urged the judge to toss out the verdicts, which he called "inconsistent" and suggested were the result of confusing jury instructions. Jurors decided Diaz did not cause "great bodily injury" to the toddler but also found he caused her death.

The filing also contends that Nacke, who presided over the trial, and Assistant State Attorney Bill Gross, who prosecuted the case, were "working friends" who entered into a "silent pact…to inflict the most severe punishment allowable by law" on Diaz for rejecting a pre-trial plea-bargain offer.

Nacke declined to comment.

Gross said Diaz' claims were baseless, including those disparaging the judge and Baez.

"He should have started his motion with 'Once upon a time,' " Gross said. "It's total baloney, totally bogus, nonsense."

Gross noted that Baez provided "more than effective counsel" for Diaz, challenging the state's case with arguments, experts and testimony.

Diaz maintained during his testimony that he was innocent, suggesting that the toddler's mother may have hurt the child because she feared the Vazquez family would take Noni away from her.

With no eyewitnesses, the state's case focused on medical testimony, which ruled out an accidental fall and which attempted to pinpoint the time of the child's injury. State experts and a deputy medical examiner testified that the injury was too severe to have occurred hours earlier when the child would have been alone with her mother.

In the filing, Diaz argues that "Mr. Baez' defectiveness affected the fairness and reliability of the trial, that confidence in the outcome was undermined."

Diaz, who this week voluntarily withdrew an appeal of his conviction that had been filed with the 5th District Court of Appeal in Daytona Beach, asks for a new lawyer, a new trial and his conditional release from prison. He pointed out that during a videotaped interview with detectives he denied 19 times hurting the child.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/orl-casey-anthony-lawyer-baez-032709,0,4266860.story

[One2Snoop]

Casey Anthony's attorney plans to question corrections officers
Jose Baez filed schedule for next week's depositions

Sarah Lundy | Sentinel Staff Writer
4:03 PM EDT, March 27, 2009

Casey Anthony's attorney filed in court a schedule of depositions he plans to take next week.

Jose Baez will question -- under oath -- four people with Orange County Corrections on Thursday. These are the folks watching his client in jail.

Casey Anthony, 23, is charged with first-degree murder in the death of her 2-year-daughter, Caylee Marie.

On Tuesday, he plans to interview two people from the Orange County Sheriff's Office and private investigator Jim Hoover, who volunteered his services to the Anthony family last fall. Hoover went with another private investigator who got a tip on the location of Caylee's body. In November, Hoover and private investigator Dominic Casey searched the wooded area on Suburban Drive with no luck.

Her remains were found there a month later by an Orange County meter reader.

On another matter, prosecutor Linda Drane Burdick filed a document, saying she turned a CD of "duct tape photos" from the FBI lab to Baez.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/orl-bk-casey-anthony-criminal-032709,0,6545669.story?track=rss

[Gatordog]

Java, I'm not really sorry we left the state, if only because of the terrible fiscal situation there now. Actually we lived in Orange County and San Diego, where there were quite a few Republicans. South of Los Angeles is really a mixed bag, politically, because of the large military influence. I lived in Laguna Beach (completely liberal), Irvine (quite conservative), Encinitas in North San Diego County (mixed).

Oh, and Palin is back in my avatar. I couldn't find the shoe. (It's somewhere on my hard-drive) but I found a picture I used on the PUMA message board (Democrats that supported Hillary Clinton, then turned to McCain/Palin).

I really miss Sarah on the campaign trail. It was my obsession last fall to follow every event online. She is my hero for standing up to the Washington establishment, and poking the media in the eye. She should have her own TV show someday.

Hi Zingo. I don't agree with Palin or even like her but I protect and defend your right to support her and use her picture. :patriot:

Gator

[Gatordog]

http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-happy093.gif (http://www.freesmileys.org)

I took the day off and was driving around and decided to take a look at the memorial site on my way to the mall.

First. I passed the house and George was outside, cleaning his car as usual. I tell you, the man should open a house cleaning company but I don't think I would trust any of them in my house. :no: The boat, the Caylee Marie was sitting outside of his house. There was an old man with Alzheimers who was missing in Palm Bay. Dogs tracked his scent to a canal. They found his body in the canal yesterday. I am glad the search boat was sitting in the street on Hopespring Drive. Who knows, one of those suicidal dead squirrels in his neighborhood may drown in a bird bath and they may need the boat to rescue it. I didn't say anything to him, just drove by. Unlike his wife, I believe if you don't have anything good to say, be quiet.

I went to the memorial and was so happy to see that the sunflowers are growing. They are about three to four feet tall. There's maybe 30 to 40 growing. http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-happy026.gif (http://www.freesmileys.org) I was so happy. But I was dismayed to see what a mess the memorial is. Someone put up a white tent type covering which is delapidated, all the debris from the uprooted trees and branches are thrown in a huge pile about ten feet tall. I blame the Ants. They don't want to go there but they should. They need to go and acknowledge it and ask the public to take the toys for their rememberance and clean it up and plant a garden in it's place. They should ask for help in planting marigolds and pansies and a little pond.

I will go once a week so I can see when they flower and take pics.

Gator

[lorettalockhorn]

http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-happy093.gif (http://www.freesmileys.org)

I took the day off and was driving around and decided to take a look at the memorial site on my way to the mall.

First. I passed the house and George was outside, cleaning his car as usual. I tell you, the man should open a house cleaning company but I don't think I would trust any of them in my house. :no: The boat, the Caylee Marie was sitting outside of his house. There was an old man with Alzheimers who was missing in Palm Bay. Dogs tracked his scent to a canal. They found his body in the canal yesterday. I am glad the search boat was sitting in the street on Hopespring Drive. Who knows, one of those suicidal dead squirrels in his neighborhood may drown in a bird bath and they may need the boat to rescue it. I didn't say anything to him, just drove by. Unlike his wife, I believe if you don't have anything good to say, be quiet.

I went to the memorial and was so happy to see that the sunflowers are growing. They are about three to four feet tall. There's maybe 30 to 40 growing. http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-happy026.gif (http://www.freesmileys.org) I was so happy. But I was dismayed to see what a mess the memorial is. Someone put up a white tent type covering which is delapidated, all the debris from the uprooted trees and branches are thrown in a huge pile about ten feet tall. I blame the Ants. They don't want to go there but they should. They need to go and acknowledge it and ask the public to take the toys for their rememberance and clean it up and plant a garden in it's place. They should ask for help in planting marigolds and pansies and a little pond.

I will go once a week so I can see when they flower and take pics.

Gator

Hey Gator, if you don't have anything good to say, come and sit by me!! :hat:

Great news about the sunflowers; thanks for doing that. Congratulations on your green thumb and your day off! :punch:

[Native Alien]

Okay people, someone should have warned me about the Hoover interview with Morgan...

I haven't had a cigarette in over 24 hours and I swear this is enough to drive me back to smoking.

And I am only on part 2.....ugh!...

[sharlock]

I was to busy looking at the facial expressions and trying to grasp what I could from the body language, but I think you are right - he is smitten with the liar. jmo ;)
If he was initially I think the honeymoon is long over personally. This is supposed to be his big break and he just keeps running up against the hurdles Casey laid out. I think he would be peeved that she hadn't shut her mouth when she had the chance and now he has to go into court and try to show that none of her lies should reflect badly on her AND that even though everything she did was as suspicious as hell and everything that happened can be linked back to her or her car, he somehow has to convince a jury that some other dude did it. LMAO I bet he wishes he was only dealing with an OJ Casey's case will be soooo much harder.:tongue:

[sharlock]

http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-happy093.gif (http://www.freesmileys.org)

I took the day off and was driving around and decided to take a look at the memorial site on my way to the mall.

First. I passed the house and George was outside, cleaning his car as usual. I tell you, the man should open a house cleaning company but I don't think I would trust any of them in my house. :no: The boat, the Caylee Marie was sitting outside of his house. There was an old man with Alzheimers who was missing in Palm Bay. Dogs tracked his scent to a canal. They found his body in the canal yesterday. I am glad the search boat was sitting in the street on Hopespring Drive. Who knows, one of those suicidal dead squirrels in his neighborhood may drown in a bird bath and they may need the boat to rescue it. I didn't say anything to him, just drove by. Unlike his wife, I believe if you don't have anything good to say, be quiet.

I went to the memorial and was so happy to see that the sunflowers are growing. They are about three to four feet tall. There's maybe 30 to 40 growing. http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-happy026.gif (http://www.freesmileys.org) I was so happy. But I was dismayed to see what a mess the memorial is. Someone put up a white tent type covering which is delapidated, all the debris from the uprooted trees and branches are thrown in a huge pile about ten feet tall. I blame the Ants. They don't want to go there but they should. They need to go and acknowledge it and ask the public to take the toys for their rememberance and clean it up and plant a garden in it's place. They should ask for help in planting marigolds and pansies and a little pond.

I will go once a week so I can see when they flower and take pics.

Gator
:rose:Flower for you. You are awesome, smile! I remember when Baez said absolutely ages after the scene had been released and they had refused to go, that he would now send people out to have a look at the vegetation and stuff. All I could think about was Baez walking out there and finding a bunch of sunflowers growing. It was picture perfect in my mind and still brings a smile to my face.

[applesandorange]

http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-happy093.gif (http://www.freesmileys.org)

I took the day off and was driving around and decided to take a look at the memorial site on my way to the mall.

First. I passed the house and George was outside, cleaning his car as usual. I tell you, the man should open a house cleaning company but I don't think I would trust any of them in my house. :no: The boat, the Caylee Marie was sitting outside of his house. There was an old man with Alzheimers who was missing in Palm Bay. Dogs tracked his scent to a canal. They found his body in the canal yesterday. I am glad the search boat was sitting in the street on Hopespring Drive. Who knows, one of those suicidal dead squirrels in his neighborhood may drown in a bird bath and they may need the boat to rescue it. I didn't say anything to him, just drove by. Unlike his wife, I believe if you don't have anything good to say, be quiet.

I went to the memorial and was so happy to see that the sunflowers are growing. They are about three to four feet tall. There's maybe 30 to 40 growing. http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-happy026.gif (http://www.freesmileys.org) I was so happy. But I was dismayed to see what a mess the memorial is. Someone put up a white tent type covering which is delapidated, all the debris from the uprooted trees and branches are thrown in a huge pile about ten feet tall. I blame the Ants. They don't want to go there but they should. They need to go and acknowledge it and ask the public to take the toys for their rememberance and clean it up and plant a garden in it's place. They should ask for help in planting marigolds and pansies and a little pond.

I will go once a week so I can see when they flower and take pics.

Gator



I'm so happy to hear the sunflowers are growing! I was wondering about that. Thanks so much for doing that.

[Amy]

About the boat-I just gotta get it out-was not going to but jayzuuuuz will it just sit in the Ant's driveway? Is this their new vocation? Wonder how long that will last with Kidfinder's involved. I sure hope it does not parlay into a pleasure craft :cuss:

I guess a "rescue" boat sitting in the drive is kind of right there with a missing children billboard that has a disconnected telephone number. An attempt to show people that someone is "doing something" for the cause, but pathetic because the boat doesn't go anywhere, and the phone doesn't ring.

Maybe they didn't offer their services or their boat in the search for the elderly man, cuz their mission is missing children? But, it would seem to me that the rescue of anyone, of any age would be worthy of sending out that boat.

[Zingo]

Hi Zingo. I don't agree with Palin or even like her but I protect and defend your right to support her and use her picture. :patriot:

Gator

Wow, thanks Gator. That's nice. I really try to keep my political opinions rather quiet because I have so many friends and co-workers who didn't like Palin either. I guess we can't help who we like or dislilke. Ha!

[Zingo]

I guess just another feeble attempt at pretty much anything by the Ants. I'd luv to hear what Shirley has to say-only sane one in the bunch MOO

Right, Shirley, and Cindy's brother (can't remember his name) have not been buying Casey's bull****.

It just boggles my mind that George/Cindy/Lee are actually starting a foundation to find missing children, but they aren't actively searching for the person they believed killed Caylee and framed Casey.

If they truly believe there was a nanny or a friend of Casey's who did this, wouldn't they be tracking this person down???? Wouldn't you be tracking them down if you were in their shoes????

I don't see any tracking going on. I don't see a family that is looking for answers. I see a family living in denial, and it's a pathetic picture.

They actually went from being in denial to being complicit a long time ago. MOO.

[Gatordog]

That boat gets my goat! Who told anyone, You know, what we really need is a rescue boat?

How many kids go missing that a boat was needed? Does LE have no boat access (in Florida?!) How many kids (or their bodies) would have been found if there were one more boat...in Florida?! From what I've seen, Florida LE is pretty good at finding people who end up in the water. Its when their mothers hide them they have trouble!

If they wanted to go something to help and name Caylee Marie, how about a big remote controlled plane with cameras and heat sensors installed? Something that really matched that price tag and didn't make people wonder if Kidfinders is playing some kind of shell game. Or planning fishing expeditions. One more boat in Florida is like one more Prius in Berkeley.

Not only did the Ants get the boat, but they also received an ATV. All that equipment to find missing children and all it took to find Caylee was a 15 feet walk into the woods. Perhaps they should have received three pairs of rubber boots instead. What they should have bought was an air boat for a river or canal. That boat with its sparkly blue custom paint job is not as effective as an airboat on the river. Most children who have gone missing and drowned generally have done so in a retention pond close to their home or in a merky, untreated pool.

Gator

[Zingo]

Not only did the Ants get the boat, but they also received an ATV. All that equipment to find missing children and all it took to find Caylee was a 15 feet walk into the woods. Perhaps they should have received three pairs of rubber boots instead. What they should have bought was an air boat for a river or canal. That boat with its sparkly blue custom paint job is not as effective as an airboat on the river. Most children who have gone missing and drowned generally have done so in a retention pond close to their home or in a merky, untreated pool.

Gator


A boat, an ATV ... how 'bout a summer home near the beach?

You know, for finding those children, like Caylee, who go "missing" during the summer months, when it's so hot in Orlando and when kidnappers are most likely to head to the coast? I'm sure the Anthony's could use a summer home as a "base" for their relentless efforts to track down Caylee's real kidnapper and killer. :cuss:

[Eagle1]

A Sunday night rerun of Nancy Grace is on in the background, nothing new. I'm just posting because on my pc the last page won't come up, and maybe this will make it go there.
:seeya: Nope. But it's okay. This page must not be finished.

[One2Snoop]

FAPI Issues Statement Regarding James Hoover of the Caylee Anthony Homicide Investigation and Florida State PI Licensing Statutes

The Florida Association of Private Investigators issued the following press release today:

March 27, 2009
For Immediate Release
_____________________________
Press Release

Florida Association of Private Investigators Deplores Reports of Unlicensed Activity

Florida Licensing Statutes are clear; The Private Investigators who involved themselves in the Anthony case appear to have acted in violation of the regulatory provisions governing the investigative profession as set forth in FSS 493. Public should be aware of Licensing Statutes

++++

Fort Lauderdale, FL, March 26, 2009: While refraining from speculation regarding the Caylee Anthony murder case, the Florida Association of Private Investigators, Inc. (FAPI) is speaking out about the activities of the private investigators allegedly working for the Anthony family and their defense attorney having possibly violated of Florida statutes.

http://pursuitmag.com/

[One2Snoop]

Caylee Blog - CNN.com
updated 4:36 p.m. EDT, Fri March 27, 2009
Caylee Blog

Friday, March 27, 2009

2 PM ET - Next week may be a crucial one for Casey Anthony's defense, as attorney Jose Baez plans to depose one of her best friends, several sheriff's deputies and four Orange County Jail employees. Friend Amy Huizenga has already told investigators about the suspicious smell in Anthony's car that she claimed was from a dead animal and about her partying lifestyle, but it remains to be seen whether she has anything to say that could help the defense's case. Other upcoming depositions will focus on deputies involved in the search for Caylee Anthony, including one who investigated an August tip from Roy Kronk in the same area where Kronk would later discover Caylee's remains, and jail staffers whose answers could potentially address Baez's concerns about what he has argued are violations of attorney-client privilege in the facility. It is not known, however, what the attorney's line of questioning for these witnesses will be or how their depositions will impact the defense strategy as the case moves toward the trial.

1 PM ET - Hundreds of pages of new discovery documents are expected next week in the murder case against Casey Anthony. The state attorney's office says it is currently preparing another large batch of documents for release to the media. We'll have more details on what those documents contain and what they mean for the prosecution and the defense as soon as they're available.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/09/08/NGfindcayleeblog/index.html?iref=werecommend

[lorettalockhorn]

Maybe they think missing children will see the sparkles and come running. So I finally sucked it up and looked at the pictures. what the hey? Doesn't George notice that the word "Extreme" is bigger than "Caylee Marie"? And I think this sums up the boats true purpose: http://i41.tinypic.com/sqqbrn.png

Engaging G&C to assist in the search for missing persons is like asking an ostrich to look above ground. How can they seriously think that people will take them seriously???

http://i36.tinypic.com/2d1okly.jpg

[lorettalockhorn]

FAPI Issues Statement Regarding James Hoover of the Caylee Anthony Homicide Investigation and Florida State PI Licensing Statutes

The Florida Association of Private Investigators issued the following press release today:

March 27, 2009
For Immediate Release
_____________________________
Press Release

Florida Association of Private Investigators Deplores Reports of Unlicensed Activity

Florida Licensing Statutes are clear; The Private Investigators who involved themselves in the Anthony case appear to have acted in violation of the regulatory provisions governing the investigative profession as set forth in FSS 493. Public should be aware of Licensing Statutes

++++

Fort Lauderdale, FL, March 26, 2009: While refraining from speculation regarding the Caylee Anthony murder case, the Florida Association of Private Investigators, Inc. (FAPI) is speaking out about the activities of the private investigators allegedly working for the Anthony family and their defense attorney having possibly violated of Florida statutes.

http://pursuitmag.com/

Good to see these guys impugned!

[Mojo]

Nice to see the PIs stand up. These maroons are making them look bad.

And hooray, doc dump! What do you guess, Wednesday? I hope the various videos are in this one, not to mention toxicology. That last one was a waste, a huge waste.

I agree, Jav. I want diary! Please don't let that have been just a rumor.

[One2Snoop]

Casey Anthony: Can she Twitter? Don't you believe it
posted by halboedeker on Mar 30, 2009 4:44:34 PM

Tweets from a jailbird?

Message from a reader: "You may be interested in Casey Anthony using twitter."

I was. But she isn't.

Allen Moore, spokesman for the Orange County Jail, said this recurring topic is a hoax. In a message to a colleague, he said:

"1. Inmates are not allowed access to the Internet or cellular phones.

"2. Attorneys cannot bring mobile phones into the jail.

"3. While an attorney is allowed to bring a laptop into the jail with an air card, inmate clients are not allowed to use it or touch it."

If someone tells you Casey Anthony is Twittering, don't believe it.

http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2009/03/casey-anthony-can-she-twitter-dont-you-believe-it.html

[lorettalockhorn]

Well, that does answer one question from long ago: there is wireless in the jail and she could have been watching the funeral on the laptop. Don't need to touch to see!

Good point.

[One2Snoop]

Anthonys Want To Visit Casey At Jail
Family Requesting To Mourn Caylee With Casey

POSTED: 6:12 pm EDT March 30, 2009
UPDATED: 7:03 pm EDT March 30, 2009

ORLANDO, Fla. -- George, Cindy and Lee may soon visit Casey Anthony in jail.

Casey Anthony is charged with murder in the death of her daughter Caylee. Caylee's remains were found in a wooded area off of Suburban Drive near the Anthonys' East Orange County home.

George and Cindy Anthony asked permission to gather with their daughter to hold a family requiem of sorts for Caylee.

A source close to the family told WESH 2 News the wheels are in motion for that meeting, so the family can mourn Caylee together for a short time.

http://www.wesh.com/news/19048728/detail.html

[SaraSidle]

Yes they are still there. Obviously needing some sort of attention. I would be so gone, but then that situation could never happen to me. I cannot imagine how they wake up in that house with a plan to get involved with the search for missing kids. Are they all numbed to the bone in that family? Or is narcissism in the DNA? Obviously Caylee was not from the same planet as her (poor excuse for a) family.

Beemer! You saw Chucky?? In Canada!!? I'm sure there is a marker on his head by all the mommy's in the world. He just keeps on tickin huh? I never want to see Chucky Cheese again as long as I live! ;) I'll spread the news that he's hiding out in Canada. :)


and Dan while you are at it don't forget all the rumors about beem and chuck. It is really starting to heat up. thanks beem for all the info.

[SaraSidle]

Engaging G&C to assist in the search for missing persons is like asking an ostrich to look above ground. How can they seriously think that people will take them seriously???

http://i36.tinypic.com/2d1okly.jpg

You keep remaining to be too funny. thank you sara

[Amy]

Well. That'll be a huge waste.

Do...they really not get that she's not mourning? Oh well. Glad they are not my problem and that I don't have theirs. I just want to see the evidence and watch her get prosecuted, now.

I hope it's one with the glass partition--just like all the other inmates have to do when they meet w/their families, even if it is to mourn someone's death. If LE is smart (or the jail, whomever is in charge) they will have it audio taped, and let the A's know it will be--cuz, IMO, if they have a chance to talk w/out mics around, they will be conducting their next strategy conference. IMO.

[joekuhl79]

Anthonys Want To Visit Casey At Jail
Family Requesting To Mourn Caylee With Casey

POSTED: 6:12 pm EDT March 30, 2009
UPDATED: 7:03 pm EDT March 30, 2009

ORLANDO, Fla. -- George, Cindy and Lee may soon visit Casey Anthony in jail.

Casey Anthony is charged with murder in the death of her daughter Caylee. Caylee's remains were found in a wooded area off of Suburban Drive near the Anthonys' East Orange County home.

George and Cindy Anthony asked permission to gather with their daughter to hold a family requiem of sorts for Caylee.

A source close to the family told WESH 2 News the wheels are in motion for that meeting, so the family can mourn Caylee together for a short time.

http://www.wesh.com/news/19048728/detail.html

Well. That'll be a huge waste.

Do...they really not get that she's not mourning? Oh well. Glad they are not my problem and that I don't have theirs. I just want to see the evidence and watch her get prosecuted, now.


What a couple of idiots George and Cindy are!! Well, I think Cindy is the idiot, and George just doesn't have any balls to slap some sense into her (and don't think I advocate beating women because I don't- though I'm really thinking it could help Cindy!)

Javahog is right...Liar is NOT mourning, she's done, she doesn't care, that part of her life is over and done with!

And if Liar won't even LOOK at G & C while in a courtroom, what makes them think that she wants to hug and cry with them?!?!

[applesandorange]

What a couple of idiots George and Cindy are!! Well, I think Cindy is the idiot, and George just doesn't have any balls to slap some sense into her (and don't think I advocate beating women because I don't- though I'm really thinking it could help Cindy!)

Javahog is right...Liar is NOT mourning, she's done, she doesn't care, that part of her life is over and done with!

And if Liar won't even LOOK at G & C while in a courtroom, what makes them think that she wants to hug and cry with them?!?!


I agree with everything you said. If LE would give the okay for this meeting and not record it....... well they'd have to have a reason right? I mean why would LE give them special privileges when they have turned out to be of zero help to them? I can see them having a visitation like anyone else in the prison. With the glass seperating them. If they are allowed to have a private meeting face to face where they can hug each other I would like to know why. IMO LE has been very good in this case and wouldn't let that happen unless it will help them. JMO

[Brainstorm]

What a couple of idiots George and Cindy are!! Well, I think Cindy is the idiot, and George just doesn't have any balls to slap some sense into her (and don't think I advocate beating women because I don't- though I'm really thinking it could help Cindy!)

Javahog is right...Liar is NOT mourning, she's done, she doesn't care, that part of her life is over and done with!

And if Liar won't even LOOK at G & C while in a courtroom, what makes them think that she wants to hug and cry with them?!?!

oh,she's mourning her own freedom,IMOO........every day,the same old clip of her whining about "everything has been taken from me"!!!!"my whole life has been taken from me"!!!!
How disgusting she is.
Ive said my prayers for Caylee.I understand she is in heaven.
I dont care anymore what Casey says,does.She doesnt deserve anymore of my time or attention.What she does deserve,IMOO, is being staked out in the hot sun beside some FIRE ANT beds.(buzzard bait)
imho

[JLette]

I hope it's one with the glass partition--just like all the other inmates have to do when they meet w/their families, even if it is to mourn someone's death. If LE is smart (or the jail, whomever is in charge) they will have it audio taped, and let the A's know it will be--cuz, IMO, if they have a chance to talk w/out mics around, they will be conducting their next strategy conference. IMO.

as far as my knowledge of jail goes, which isn't too far just what i know from my dads job, ANY visitation with an inmate is monitored, recorded and supervised unless it is a visit with counsel which has to be private. so any chance of her and her family hashing out some kind of strategy is out of the question, which is supposed to be her lawyers job anyway, oh wait, he got his license from a cracker jack box!!!!

[JLette]

Its all about closure, Beem; based on her behavior to date, Casey has mastered it. Amazing how the 7 stages of grief can be reduced to, well, none.

you only grieve for someone you cared for, and obviously casey never really cared for that child, she was always just a burden and a hindrance to caseys party lifestyle, she is mourning her everlasting party but not her baby

[JLette]

Hey J-well i guess we could let them have a few brief moments of thinking they are special-then be denied special priviledges LOL It truly would be a video to see-that will be Liars excuse in the end in my opine. Lets hope Bozo has climbed out of his box and gets hitting case law books :tongue: Did i tell ya i got my Brain Surgeon license on my lunch hour LOL

hahahaha i really wonder where he went to law school....and what his GPA was when he graduated, this guy just blows my mind sometimes, why would he think that talking to AMY under oath would HELP their defense??? for god sakes, she could probably have the most DAMAGING testimony in this case!!!!! but if Mr. Baez and his client wish to dig themselves into their own graves i say LET THEM!!!!:biggrin:

[JLette]

If I could grant any family member 5 minutes of unguarded time with a child's killer, I would let Mark Klaas "grieve" on Richard Allen Davis. That's what Casey deserves too, but Caylee has no dad.

she has one out there somewhere, probably unaware that he was ever a bio-dad to this precious little girl, but maybe someday it will come into the light. i hope that it does and i hope that he is a little less "out there" than the MATERNAL side of the family.

[lorettalockhorn]

Its all about closure, Beem; based on her behavior to date, Casey has mastered it. Amazing how the 7 stages of grief can be reduced to, well, none.

UGH so true. Casey closed the door on grief when she shut the trunk of her car with Caylee inside. And I don't see how it's possible for the other sycophANTs to mourn without acknowledging what has happened.

[One2Snoop]

Depositions In Casey Anthony Case Delayed

Posted: 10:27 am EDT March 31, 2009Updated: 12:21 pm EDT March 31, 2009
ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. -- Casey Anthony's defense team will have to wait two more days to interrogate several key players in the murder case, but one of them will be deposed Tuesday as planned.

Jose Baez was going to depose former Anthony family private investigator Jim Hoover and several Orange County Sheriff's Office investigators Tuesday, but those depositions have been delayed until Thursday.

Four jail officers will also be questioned. Two of those jailers witnessed Casey's reaction when she was told about the discovery of Caylee's remains.

Eyewitness News learned early Tuesday afternoon, Baez will depose Jail Sergeant Dennis Moonsammy at 4:00pm. He could be one of the supervisors that witnessed Casey's reaction when she was told about the discovery of Caylee's remains last December.

http://www.wftv.com/news/19053648/detail.html#-

[One2Snoop]

Casey Anthony's attorney asks for private hearing before judge
Jose Baez doesn't want to tip off others about defense's theories

Sarah Lundy | Sentinel Staff Writer
12:08 PM EDT, March 31, 2009

Casey Anthony's attorney, Jose Baez, doesn't want the public to know about any defense theories that are being developed.

He filed a request for an ex-parte hearing before Orange Circuit Court Judge Stan Strickland. That means he wants to meet with the judge without prosecutors or the public present so "sensitive matters which are critical to the defense can be addressed," according to the document filed late Monday.

In the process of investigating the case, the defense claims they will need to obtain certain records, which could be used at trial. Baez doesn't want to prevent others from knowing about any theories.

And the items Baez is seeking cannot be obtained through normal discovery process, the legal process of prosecutors turning over investigative information about the case.

Strickland or prosecutors have not responded to the request.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/orl-bk-casey-anthony-hearing-033109,0,7397632.story

[Amy]

Casey Anthony's attorney asks for private hearing before judge
Jose Baez doesn't want to tip off others about defense's theories

Sarah Lundy | Sentinel Staff Writer
12:08 PM EDT, March 31, 2009

Casey Anthony's attorney, Jose Baez, doesn't want the public to know about any defense theories that are being developed.

He filed a request for an ex-parte hearing before Orange Circuit Court Judge Stan Strickland. That means he wants to meet with the judge without prosecutors or the public present so "sensitive matters which are critical to the defense can be addressed," according to the document filed late Monday.

In the process of investigating the case, the defense claims they will need to obtain certain records, which could be used at trial. Baez doesn't want to prevent others from knowing about any theories.

And the items Baez is seeking cannot be obtained through normal discovery process, the legal process of prosecutors turning over investigative information about the case.

Strickland or prosecutors have not responded to the request.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/orl-bk-casey-anthony-hearing-033109,0,7397632.story

Maybe Judge Strickland will con't his law schooling for Baez, pointing out things HE should be doing, and even things he SHOULDN'T be doing. Lord knows someone needs to be guiding Baez, and it sure seems the addition of other high profile lawyers and experts hasn't helped him very much @ all--@ least in terms of lawyering, presenting motions (which ones to present, AND how to present them.)

[lorettalockhorn]

[QUOTE=lorettalockhorn;9178116]UGH so true. Casey closed the door on grief when she shut the trunk of her car with Caylee inside. And I don't see how it's possible for the other sycophANTs to mourn without acknowledging what has happened.[/QUOTE

I dont get where the Ant's are coming from-this is beyond the spectrum of abnormal denial. I might grasp one of them but for all 3 to be on board-very scary :eek: Unless G has been beaten into submission and not sure where Lee's weak spot would be :rolleyes: MOO

The only thing that I can think of is that Baez has told the Ants the other half of the story, they believe it, and they are on board with his strategy. Whatever that is. :shrug:

[JLette]

[QUOTE=beemeup;9178119]

The only thing that I can think of is that Baez has told the Ants the other half of the story, they believe it, and they are on board with his strategy. Whatever that is. :shrug:

oy what i would give to be a fly on the wall when casey and her "lawyer" meet up...........drives me nuts wondering sometimes lol

[Justice Denied?]

I hope it's one with the glass partition--just like all the other inmates have to do when they meet w/their families, even if it is to mourn someone's death. If LE is smart (or the jail, whomever is in charge) they will have it audio taped, and let the A's know it will be--cuz, IMO, if they have a chance to talk w/out mics around, they will be conducting their next strategy conference. IMO.

HLN (Mike Gallanos) read statement from jail officials saying they have received no such request. Also stated Casey will be given no special privledges such as face to face visis.

[Justice Denied?]

as far as my knowledge of jail goes, which isn't too far just what i know from my dads job, ANY visitation with an inmate is monitored, recorded and supervised unless it is a visit with counsel which has to be private. so any chance of her and her family hashing out some kind of strategy is out of the question, which is supposed to be her lawyers job anyway, oh wait, he got his license from a cracker jack box!!!!

Well, why not? He probably got his degree from the unacredited college where he teaches. LOL

[Justice Denied?]

Hey J-well i guess we could let them have a few brief moments of thinking they are special-then be denied special priviledges LOL It truly would be a video to see-that will be Liars excuse in the end in my opine. Lets hope Bozo has climbed out of his box and gets hitting case law books :tongue: Did i tell ya i got my Brain Surgeon license on my lunch hour LOL

Congradulations! We are proud of you! May Casey and Cindy be your first two patients?

[Zingo]

He claims it was his first try. But it was 8 years after graduating: http://www.wftv.com/news/17114393/detail.html

Somebody did a little research on the school and such: http://backseatlawyer.blogspot.com/2009/01/who-is-jose-baez-besides-being-casey.html

Sounds like how long it took my husband to get through medical school.

[lorettalockhorn]

He claims it was his first try. But it was 8 years after graduating: http://www.wftv.com/news/17114393/detail.html

Somebody did a little research on the school and such: http://backseatlawyer.blogspot.com/2009/01/who-is-jose-baez-besides-being-casey.html

hmmm I'm thinking Deck Shifflet in John Grisham's The Rainmaker. And now that you mention it, Baez does kind of remind me of Danny DeVito.

Thanks for the links!

[Amy]

HLN (Mike Gallanos) read statement from jail officials saying they have received no such request. Also stated Casey will be given no special privledges such as face to face visis.

I wonder if the "close family source" or however it was worded was B. Conway--haven't heard much from him lately @ all. He was the one who was saying they (A's) were asking for private time w/Casey for a "family funeral" and the jail officials said no one had asked about THAT, either. There were several other "special considerations"---Casey ATTENDING the funeral was one, can't remember the others, that Conway was saying the A's were requesting and the jail saying there had been no requests to them. Probably because it was things the A's were wanting, and the requests had to come from Casey--who was not interested?

[lorettalockhorn]

Now that makes sense, Amy! I think you hit it. Only the prisoner or the court could make a request, right? Anthony's are sending her messages via Jose about meeting, she does nothing about it, jail is mystified and Anthony's look crazy. You nailed it, I think. When are they going to wake up and smell the coffee? They probably think it is some plot against them, and its making them "bond" more closely in their minds to The Persecuted One.

As a grammatical aside, how do I pluralize Anthony? Everything I try looks wrong!

Well, this works for me: sycophANTs. Or if you want to get cute with your spelling, you could go with psychophANTs. :hat:

As for who(m)ever the friend of the Ants is, you can probably count those on one hand.

[JLette]

I wonder if the "close family source" or however it was worded was B. Conway--haven't heard much from him lately @ all. He was the one who was saying they (A's) were asking for private time w/Casey for a "family funeral" and the jail officials said no one had asked about THAT, either. There were several other "special considerations"---Casey ATTENDING the funeral was one, can't remember the others, that Conway was saying the A's were requesting and the jail saying there had been no requests to them. Probably because it was things the A's were wanting, and the requests had to come from Casey--who was not interested?

that sounds right in my head too......although even if the psycho WANTED to see her family in person i highly DOUBT the jail would even consider changing their entire procedure and going against their policies just for little miss CASEY. i swear that family is acting like she is some kind of star that should be treated as such, its disgusting, IMO she shouldn't even be allowed to have her commissary, she doesn't deserve anything good to happen to her and she should be suffering in jail, thats what jail is for after all, not being rewarded and treated like your freakin angelina jolie!!!

[lorettalockhorn]

If you read the complaints that Nilton guy had, that Baez defended for murder (and lost), had about Baez, you know, where he said he got incompetent council? Sounds like Baez may be going down the same path again. To sum: There was a witness who could demonstrate that the injury to the child may have been an accident. Baez didn't give that info to the prosecution and the judge refused to allow it into evidence at the appropriate time

Now, if you read here http://www.wesh.com/news/19063043/detail.html (second article), Baez is holding his defense really close to the vest and wants to keep it a secret. For some reason he thinks its a good idea, even though it backfired on him before. Of course, he is going to the judge this time, so maybe he'll avoid the previous problem? Dangerous, I think.

Does he think he can pull surprise Perry Mason moments sans discovery, and that is good lawyering?

Perry Mason Moment sounds exactly like what Baez had planned in the Nilton trial, but for whatever reason Jose never produced the information. My question is, isn't exculpatory evidence discoverable by the defense as well as the prosecution?

[JLette]

J, do not get me started on the commissary. Have you seen the price list? ( http://www.nowpublic.com/world/women-show-pity-casey-anthony-cash ) Not only does she have more easy snack access than I do, all the items are CHEAPER than out in the world. I don't even know that she has to pay tax! aaargh. (*edit: she does pay tax)

And as I have said many a time, no one with money should have a better time in jail than someone without money! Someone should do something about this.

LOL wow that is a really nice jail, granted this is a small county our jail only has stuff like top ramen and cigarettes for commissary, maybe they should send her to a smaller less funded jail so she won't be pampered

[lorettalockhorn]

Maybe I'll just go with (adjective of the day)+Ants. That leaves me lots of editorial options!

Isn't is a crying shame that the Ants are so bashworthy when it comes down to the fact that they cannot or will not take a stand for Caylee?

At the risk of being overly moralistic, when it comes to the question of a family memorial service, I don't think the ANTipathetics deserve the option any more than Casey does.

[JLette]

Isn't is a crying shame that the Ants are so bashworthy when it comes down to the fact that they cannot or will not take a stand for Caylee?

At the risk of being overly moralistic, when it comes to the question of a family memorial service, I don't think the ANTipathetics deserve the option any more than Casey does.

what bothers me about it is that they say they want to do it for HER and they know damn well that she could care less:flamemad:

[One2Snoop]

Casey Anthony and family will not get special jail visit
April 1, 12:02 PM ·

According to a statement released by the Orange County Jail on Tuesday, there are no plans to allow an in-person visit between George, Cindy, and Lee Anthony and Casey.

On Monday, it was reported that a source close to the family said the “wheels are in motion for that meeting, so the family can mourn Caylee together for a short time.”

The meeting was allegedly to take place under the supervision of the jail and Casey’s attorney, Jose Baez.

A jail spokesperson said the meeting will not take place and Casey will not receive special treatment from the jail.

Casey is charged with the first-degree murder of her 2-year-old daughter Caylee Anthony. Her trial is tentatively scheduled for Oct. 12.

http://www.examiner.com/x-1168-Crime-Examiner~y2009m4d1-Casey-Anthony-and-family-will-not-get-special-jail-visit

[shadydaisy]

I'm thinking Baez and Casey are planning to dump the entire mess on Cindy at the trail. Baez, with Casey, is going to paint a picture of how Cindy drove Casey to kill Caylee. It certainly is not going to be Casey's fault...never was and never will be. It's got to be the only thing they have to use as a defense. Just a thought.

[JLette]

Well, no secret meeting with Judge Strickland: http://www.wesh.com/news/19063043/detail.html

I wonder if Strickland would have met with Baez if he had been more professional in court up to now?

oh lord, if he has information about why she didn't report it then why not just hand it over, at this point people couldn't hate his client any more than they already do, its not going to taint the jury pool any more than it has already been tainted so just spit it out!

[deacon]

I'm thinking Baez and Casey are planning to dump the entire mess on Cindy at the trail. Baez, with Casey, is going to paint a picture of how Cindy drove Casey to kill Caylee. It certainly is not going to be Casey's fault...never was and never will be. It's got to be the only thing they have to use as a defense. Just a thought.

Don't think so. Then she would have to admit she did it and I really don't think she can do that.

[shadydaisy]

Don't think so. Then she would have to admit she did it and I really don't think she can do that.

It may depend on the forensic evidence that we don't know the results of yet - if such thing exists. If everything points to Casey they could try to deflect the blame on Cindy. The old *she drove me to it*. Even grandma said Casey hated her mom. Honestly, I can't figure a plan to get Casey off and Baez has got to have something up his sleeve.

[deacon]

It may depend on the forensic evidence that we don't know the results of yet - if such thing exists. If everything points to Casey they could try to deflect the blame on Cindy. The old *she drove me to it*. Even grandma said Casey hated her mom. Honestly, I can't figure a plan to get Casey off and Baez has got to have something up his sleeve.

But does he know/remember where hi sleeve is?:biggrin: I don't even think he knows where his head is. Reasonable doubt is about all he has right now. That and a dumb theory that, while most people would see right through it, there just may be one out there that does not and would hang the jury.

[JLette]

hmmm......that could be a good defense (as good as they could get in this case at least) but the only thing it doesn't cover is the decomposing body in Casey's trunk, unless they say that cyndi killed her and casey knew and then disposed of the body.......quite frankly i don't think that lawyer or any other could come up with a defense for her that would really work....it is just too obvious that she did it and people are not that stupid lol

[JLette]

Thanks for the props Nawny-I always enjoy your posts. Thats a great idea everyone-get on your treadmill when the trial is on. We will all be fit. Especially when the defense is up. Great idear Nawny!!!! I think this is a great theory and makes so much sense-not the theory per say but it's the best Bozo can go with to TRY to get a Not Guilty. So true the every man for himself. If the defense goes with this it will be like watching the Ant's on the titanic with one life jacket. Oh this could get really ugly. This is my thinking and i am sticking to it. MOO

i still wanna think that George at least is an honest victim in this as much as Caylee, i think that poor man has no idea what to do with his family and has no control over anything that happens in his household. he DID testify against Casey at the Grand Jury so maybe there is hope for him, but i think even if he wanted to publicly denounce his daughter (which i don't think he is ready to do still) then Cindy would probably have something to say about it, she obviously has him very well trained to agree with everything she has to say, at least when she is around. I watch his police interview tapes and it just seems like he is a torn and broken man. first impressions mean alot to me and the first impression i got from him was that he wanted to help, wanted to get to the bottom of it, but was terribly afraid of the answers they would get and also what his wifey would say about it all.

Cindy in my opinion is more psychotic than her daughter and i still can't see any grandmother who professed so much love for their grandchild and yet didn't set out to get them back after the first week of not seeing them. if i keep my son from my mom for more than a day or two without lettin him come over to play she is on me like flies on doodie to let him come over or let him talk on the phone, and when he is sleeping or something when she calls to talk to him, she practically tries to force me to wake him up. so if she missed the little girl so much and she knew casey was an unfit mother and could NOT be taking care of her that long then why did she wait and accept all those lame excuses?

we could sit and ask why why why about the things this family does until the world came to an end and probably still wouldn't get anything that made any sense to normal sane people.

[JLette]

Oh it certainly has holes-we all know who did it but for sake of argument if he is going for not guilty what else could it be. He would fight like hay to keep as much out as he could-prolly win a few of them but at the end of the day she will go down. Lets just run with this awhile. Good theory-i know Bozo could not come up with anything great but this is good. MOO

LOL yea gotta give him props for at least trying to think of something workable. although if that is the theory they are going with i don't believe he was clever enough to think of it on his own, one of those other super lawyers probably came up with that one, Bozo is the front man for this one but i certainly hope he isn't the brains of the outfit too

[One2Snoop]

Well, no secret meeting with Judge Strickland: http://www.wesh.com/news/19063043/detail.html

I wonder if Strickland would have met with Baez if he had been more professional in court up to now?

No special jail visit with Casey and family and no secret meetings with Judge Strickland. :beer: Is anyone keeping tally of wins and losses for Baez? :biggrin:

[One2Snoop]

Casey's Friend Who Sold Story Questioned By Baez

Posted: 11:42 am EDT April 1, 2009Updated: 2:46 pm EDT April 1, 2009
ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. -- A longtime friend was testifying under oath Wednesday in the case against Casey Anthony. Defense attorney Jose Baez questioned Casey's childhood friend, Kiomarie Cruz. She is best known for selling her story to a tabloid.

Cruz made a lot of money selling her story to the National Enquirer. She sold her story for $20,000 and sources say that takes away from her credibility.

The deposition happened Wednesday inside the State Attorney's Office in downtown Orlando. Cruz showed up for her scheduled deposition with a bodyguard leading the way (see images). She's accused of selling her story the National Enquirer, but Wednesday she didn't feel like answering any questions.

Casey Anthony's attorney, Jose Baez, scheduled the private deposition to pry information out of Cruz.

"The more information we have, the closer we get to the truth," Baez said (watch raw video).

Cruz told the National Enquirer the spot where Caylee's body was found is the same area where she and Anthony spent lots of time. Cruz said Anthony used the land as a pet cemetery. Cruz said the two would wear black dresses and pray as they buried their dead pets.

That tip led the Anthony's private investigators to the site.

"When you take all the facts, we're in the process of investigating a lot of facts, really taking time to prepare based on information we have and piecing it all together," Baez said.

Cruz insists she told police about her tip. The deposition was completed before noon.

At least three more corrections officers will be interrogated by Casey's defense team Thursday, along with the Anthonys' former private investigator, Jim Hoover. Orange County Sheriff's Office investigators will be questioned on Friday.

JAIL SERGEANT QUESTIONED IN CASE AGAINST CASEY

Casey Anthony's defense team interrogated a witness late Tuesday afternoon. Jail Sergeant 58-year-old Dennis Moonsammy was questioned by her attorney, Jose Baez.

Moonsammy supervises Casey Anthony at the jail, and told Eyewitness News he did not see Casey's response the day Caylee's remains were found.

VIDEO REPORT: Jail Sgt. Deposition

"Did you see Casey Anthonys reaction when they found her daughter's remains?" asked WFTV reporter Jeff Deal.

"No sir. No sir," responded Moonsammy.

The veteran Orange County corrections sergeant headed into the State Attorney's Office to answer questions under oath from Casey Anthony's attorney Jose Baez.

"Every witness is critical," said Baez.

Moonsammy is a shift sergeant who oversees the Women's Detention Center at the Orange County Jail. He is the first of four corrections officers who will be deposed this week in the Casey Anthony criminal trial.

While he says he didn't see Casey's reaction, it is possible someone else described it too him.

Eyewitness News has learned she hyperventilated and asked for medication when she heard that Caylee's remains had been found.

Moonsammy said he had a lawyer with him during the questioning.

"I didn't do anything wrong," said Moonsammy.

Jose Baez said he believes the depositions he has lined up this week are a serious part of this case.

"It's a life changing situation so I think every part of it is," said Baez.

Casey Anthony's defense team will have to wait two more days to interrogate other key players in the murder case.

Jose Baez was going to depose former Anthony family private investigator Jim Hoover and several Orange County Sheriff's Office investigators Tuesday, but those depositions have been delayed until Thursday.

Four jail officers will also be questioned. Two of those jailers witnessed Casey's reaction when she was told about the discovery of Caylee's remains.

http://www.wftv.com/news/19064502/detail.html

[lorettalockhorn]

The ruling from Strickland is kind of funny. He seems to be telling Baez that he doesn't know the difference between an in camera meeting and an ex parte meeting. http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/Stories/Local/Order%20Denying%20Defendant's%20Motion%20to%20Seek %20Ex%20Parte%20Hearing.pdf

Welcome to the Strickland School of Law, JB!

It's only fitting after Bozo tried to school The State re: the importance of stifling the information brought to light in the in camera meeting. :hat:

[lorettalockhorn]

Don't think so. Then she would have to admit she did it and I really don't think she can do that.

Can't imagine Casey admitting to anything. But I can totally imagine her placing the blame on Cindy. Baez and Casey have already gone to far as to intimate that Jesse G or R Morales could be behind the murder. Why not point the finger at Cindy? Lord knows she's as nuts as Casey is and shares a lot of blame (IMO) or what happened.

[One2Snoop]

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[lorettalockhorn]

http://i39.tinypic.com/20rqw41.jpg

http://i37.tinypic.com/qpjerr.jpg

[JLette]

http://i39.tinypic.com/20rqw41.jpg

:biggrin:

[lorettalockhorn]

Okay, here I go, channelling JB :D

JB: Mrs. Anthony, who owns the Sunbird?
CA: Casey has the use of...
JB: Your Honor, move to strike! Mrs. Anthony, in whose name is the car registered?
CA: Well, mine, but...
JB: So, it is true that YOUR car contained the odor of decomposition?
CA: Well, yes, but...
JB: And as a nurse, are you aware of the chemical composition of chloroform?
CA: Well, yes, but...
JB: Which was also found in YOUR car?
CA: But...yes.
JB: And from whose house did the Pooh blanket come from?
CA: Well, mine, but...
JB: And the garbage bags, the duct tape, the sticker, the clothing...everything from the dump site?
CA: My house.
JB: Why do you think that Casey repeatedly ran out of gas throughout the month Caylee was "missing"?
CA: I really don't know.
JB: Isn't it true, Mrs. Anthony, that you were sneaking around and using the Sunbird to accomplish your nefarious deeds? Hoping that your crimes would be laid at her door? Isn't it true that she could never keep track of the amount of gas she had because unbeknownst to her, YOU were using her gasoline?
CA: I don't know. I was at work!
JB: If it please the court, I propose that my client is not the heinous perpetrator of this crime, but merely the innocent victim of a mother who forgot her place and intended to harm her daughter in the worst way she could think of for being a vast disappointment. Mrs. Cindy Anthony nearly choked the life out of her daughter on the night of June 15, 2008 and proceeded to take further revenge on a daughter she considered a miserable failure by slaying her beloved child and stringing her along as to the child's safe return for over a month!

How's that for JB's Perry Mason moment? (I know, I know, the words are too big for JB) :seeya:

Oops! Wrong case!

[JLette]

Okay, here I go, channelling JB :D

JB: Mrs. Anthony, who owns the Sunbird?
CA: Casey has the use of...
JB: Your Honor, move to strike! Mrs. Anthony, in whose name is the car registered?
CA: Well, mine, but...
JB: So, it is true that YOUR car contained the odor of decomposition?
CA: Well, yes, but...
JB: And as a nurse, are you aware of the chemical composition of chloroform?
CA: Well, yes, but...
JB: Which was also found in YOUR car?
CA: But...yes.
JB: And from whose house did the Pooh blanket come from?
CA: Well, mine, but...
JB: And the garbage bags, the duct tape, the sticker, the clothing...everything from the dump site?
CA: My house.
JB: Why do you think that Casey repeatedly ran out of gas throughout the month Caylee was "missing"?
CA: I really don't know.
JB: Isn't it true, Mrs. Anthony, that you were sneaking around and using the Sunbird to accomplish your nefarious deeds? Hoping that your crimes would be laid at her door? Isn't it true that she could never keep track of the amount of gas she had because unbeknownst to her, YOU were using her gasoline?
JB: If it please the court, I propose that my client is not the heinous perpetrator of this crime, but merely the innocent victim of a mother who forgot her place and intended to harm her daughter in the worst way she could think of for being a vast disappointment. Mrs. Cindy Anthony nearly choked the life out of her daughter on the night of June 15, 2008 and proceeded to take further revenge on a daughter she considered a miserable failure by slaying her beloved child and stringing her along as to the child's safe return for over a month!

How's that for JB's Perry Mason moment? (I know, I know, the words are too big for JB) :seeya:

:eek: LOL you are too good at that

[lighthousedazy]

That little Caylee didn't get as much care and consideration as this little rare baby monkey that was rejected by her mother. :( http://news.aol.com/article/baby-monkey/400746?icid=main|htmlws-main|dl7|link3|http%3A%2F%2Fnews.aol.com%2Farticle %2Fbaby-monkey%2F400746

[sharlock]

I don't doubt George was told by the sheriff "ask and ye might get" a one on one at that time in August... But to show you just how ignorant CMA really is, asking for that NOW, after them finally finding Caylee, and all that has been found out since...DUH!http://i40.tinypic.com/skys7m.jpg She is not understanding how everything has been found out about her, and it's been speaking volumes!

Kio Maries testimony, about the drugs after Caylee's birth (taking X for example) and the dealing about the adoption. Conway had to make a statement about her testimony transcript with LE......I think the words he used : "It's Garbage!" Why has he said anything? He's not her atty...More spin from Cindy..."My daughter wouldn't do THAT"...... Wrong! She DID.

Can't wait for this doc dump!

Word Up, Casey...http://i41.tinypic.com/2jesrja.jpg
Old Soul you are reading my mind! I am actually flabbergasted at how much that happens, regarding insinuation and such, can be traced back to Cindy; and you've got to wonder what Conway and others are doing actually pandering to her. Truthfully Baez is doing a job and, while it's not a popular opinion, I think he is probably doing the best he can with what he got... BUT Conway should not be making derogatory statements about a state witness when it is not his client on trial. Even Baez had the decency to say that Kio's statement doesn't get ruled out just because she accepted money, it only really loses credibility if she changes it. Hmmm following that train of thought Cindy's statements won't stand up to much scrutiny will they lol.
Another example of Cindy's meddling would have to be the licorice story. Where did that originate from hey? Dominic Casey, Cindy's bum buddy. So why would she get him to tell that story? I can only think of 2 reasons. Cindy wanted to see if Hoover would talk and also she wanted him to sound silly if he did, 2ndly I think she has a big issue with Baez. Right from the start he took control off her and Casey does what he says and not what Cindy wants, Cindy is a control freak and that just gets on her nerves badly imo. I think the fact that he gave that statement for Casey, saying that Cindy had cremated Caylee against her mothers wishes and was holding a memorial also against Casey's wishes, would have really pi55ed Cindy off; so she has no problem in spreading a rumor that makes Baez look dumb. I think she enjoys getting in little digs at Casey too. She knows Casey did it and she is angry with her but she can't openly criticize her or she becomes the woman who raised a murderer and her forte into the high finance world of missing children comes to an end. Maybe I am being too critical but she has acted WAY inappropriately at times imo.:eek:

[lorettalockhorn]

I love Brad Conway saying that KioMarie isn't credible because she got $20k from the Enquirer. http://www.wesh.com/news/19073972/detail.html

Because his clients actions just scream "trust me".

More like Trust Fund me. :hat:

Can anyone reminds us just how much moola the pissANTs have made off Caylee's death?

[One2Snoop]

P.I. Jim Hoover Breaks Silence In Casey Case

Posted: 6:29 pm EDT April 2, 2009Updated: 10:06 am EDT April 3, 2009
ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. -- Lawyers interrogated two corrections officers about violating Casey's rights in jail Thursday and a private investigator for the Anthony family, whose undercover work could link Casey to her daughter's remains.

WFTV reporter Kathi Belich had a chance to interview private investigator Jim Hoover (watch raw video). Eyewitness News was first to report about and show his videotape at the scene a month before Caylee was found. It could show the Anthonys' private investigator had inside information.

Hoover was planning to tell the defense Thursday that's why he believes the Anthonys' private eye took him there a month early.

The Anthony family's private investigator, Dominic Casey, who was also working for Casey Anthony, directed private eye Jim Hoover, who was behind the camera, to a grouping of paver stones in mid-November. Caylee's remains were found near a group of stones just feet from the location.

"That day, he was real somber," Hoover told Eyewitness News.

For the first time, Hoover told Eyewitness News on camera Thursday that Dominic was somber that day because he said he found out Caylee was dead.

"'She's dead and I know where she is,'" Hoover said Dominic told him.

"What do you think about all his other stories about a psychic and that he was checking out a teen hangout?" Belich asked Hoover.

"Stories, just stories," he said.

Hoover says Dominic was on the phone getting direction on exactly where to look. Dominic told Eyewitness News he was talking to his ill daughter and later said he was talking to a Virginia psychic.

"He never said anything to you at all about a psychic?" Belich asked Hoover Thursday.

"No, not at all," he said.

WFTV legal analyst Bill Sheaffer says prosecutors will use Hoover's testimony to link Casey Anthony to the scene where Caylee's body was dumped.

"Where did he get that information? And you can only get that information from the killer or someone so closely associated with the killer that they had that information," Sheaffer said.

Hoover was behind closed doors at the State Attorney's Office Thursday for nearly three hours facing defense questions. Hoover has also said that the Anthonys' private eye never looked for the mysterious nanny of the same name whom Casey claimed disappeared with Caylee.

http://www.wftv.com/news/19080447/detail.html#-

[One2Snoop]

Casey Anthony's Attorney Questioning Investigators

Posted: 12:25 pm EDT April 3, 2009Updated: 1:07 pm EDT April 3, 2009
ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. -- Casey Anthony's defense team is questioning more witnesses Friday, including two sheriff's investigators. The sheriff's investigators were involved in the tips coming in about the case.

BAEZ TALKS: Comments Before Depositions On 4/3
VIDEO REPORT: Sheriff's Investigators Questioned

One of the investigators investigated Deputy Richard Cain's performance at the scene in August, when county meter reader Roy Kronk called in his first tip about finding something suspicious off Suburban Drive.

The defense would probably want to go with Deputy Cain's conclusion in August that there was nothing there, to help direct suspicions away from Casey Anthony. But a botanist told investigators that plant growth at the spot where Caylee's remains were found indicates that her body was there at least since August, and quite possibly since June when Caylee disappeared.

The defense is also questioning one of Kronk's co-workers Friday who was with Kronk at the scene.

"I hope to accomplish getting to the truth. That's all I can tell you," Baez said before the depositions Friday morning (watch raw video).

"Hasn't Casey told you the truth?" WFTV reporter Kathi Belich asked.

"I want to find out what investigators know. That's part of the whole story," Baez replied.

The sheriff's office told Eyewitness News on Friday that Deputy Richard Cain is still under internal investigation for the way he conducted his search at the scene in August. Kronk told investigators in December, when he did find the remains, that he believed he was in the exact same spot as he had been in August.


CASEY'S FORMER BEST FRIEND HIRES ATTORNEY

Casey Anthony's former best friend, Amy Huizenga, has hired a lawyer. Her deposition has been postponed.

Casey is charged with stealing Huizenga's checkbook and writing more than $400 worth of checks, including one to Target during a shopping spree after Caylee's murder.

Huizenga had loaned Casey her car while she was away with friends in Puerto Rico and it is believed that's when Casey allegedly stole the checks.

http://www.wftv.com/news/19086937/detail.html#-

[One2Snoop]

Meter Reader's Supervisor Being Deposed By Casey's Attorney
Friday, April 03, 2009 11:54:44 AM

ORLANDO -- The depositions continue Friday, and high on the list is Alex Roberts, supervisor for Roy Kronk, the meter reader who found Caylee's Anthony's remains.

Thursday's deposition of the Anthony family's former private investigator brought some new details to light.

A month before Caylee Anthony's remains were found at a vacant lot less than a mile from her home, that area was searched.

News 13 knows who might have led two private investigators into that area.

We caught up with Jim Hoover, who volunteered to help the Anthony family during the search for Caylee.

He answered questions under oath Thursday with Casey Anthony's defense team.

It was one of three depositions and the third day of questioning this week.

Hoover headed into the woods to look for Caylee with another private investigator, Dominic Casey.

Hoover said Dominic Casey was acting as if he was getting exact direction from someone as to where to look in the woods.

However, Casey Anthony’s attorney, Jose Baez, won't comment on the questions he's asking.

"I think we went into more detail with Mr. Hoover that went into in the past, but that's as far as I'll go," Baez said.

“Like everybody who all was on the phone? Why were we out in the woods? That sort of thing. (In your gut who do you believe was on the phone that day?) I answered that last week and I was threatened to be sued. (You believe it was Lee?) There's a slight possibility it could be Lee,” Hoover said.

Earlier in the day, Sgt. Billy Richardson from Orange County Corrections was deposed. Richardson wouldn't comment about Casey's constitutional rights.

Lt. Tammy Unser who had talked to investigators about conversations between Anthony and Baez, cancelled her interview.

Marlene Baker, a correctional officer who works in the Female Detention Center, was also deposed Thursday. Baker was the officer to whom Casey handed a letter to the sheriff requesting a meeting with her father.

Hoover was deposed on March 25 in the civil case against Casey Anthony, brought by attorney's for Zenaida Fernandez Gonzalez.

The defense said it will continue depositions Friday with Orange County Sheriff's deputies.

http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2009/4/3/did_lee_anthony_lead_investigators_to_caylees_rema ins.html

[One2Snoop]

Text Of Jim Hoover's Deposition In Civil Case

http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/Stories/Local/Hoover%20Deposition.pdf

[One2Snoop]

Isn't that just the capper? She gets cleaned out by Casey, and now she has to pay for a lawyer!

Casey's Poptart fund should be sent straight to Amy.

ITA. I wonder if she's planning to file a lawsuit?

[lorettalockhorn]

1) I wish! Aren't they cute? I could sit and watch them fight all day long. Who needs the internet!

2) and...yep. "My wife sold pictures of our dead granddaughter and all I got was this lousy suicide attempt." is his new t-shirt.


http://i42.tinypic.com/8xu52h.jpg
hehehe

[lorettalockhorn]

ITA. I wonder if she's planning to file a lawsuit?

Let's encourage that!

Thanks for all the links today. :tongue:

[lorettalockhorn]

HAHAHA, are those kids yours? (Hey, I have those sheets!) That's one feisty little kitty you have there...gotta love it! My little kitty Mia has Napolean syndrome too, she gives the others a run for their money! Is that kitty a female ? LOL

Speaking of kitty's.............
I think the Anthony's 'kitty' is near $300,000.00 not including what their ex-atty made with NBC or whoever it was way back then.......

Yes, beem........beemeup and away from this crappy rain we have here :(

trying to reach my waving smiley, can get it.....

Was thinking about the Ants' kitty, and not only have they brought in big bucks for the pix and videos, but look at the amount they've garnered in services; airfare (possibly), hotel and meal accommodations for their entourage, and legal fees, etc. Betting the amount has reached an obscene proportion.

[Amy]

Cant reach my wave guy either OS-whats up with that. So the pissAnts (per loretta lol) must be keeping the cash for themselves? One day that will run out as they dont seem to do well with money management. Sickening they are-go back to work Ants like anyone else has who has lost a loved one. Yes it is raining here today-mild tho-but we are in the forecast for some rain/snow mix several days next week. Always get this in early April-a tease of warm weather-a few more blasts of white stuff-then that nice gradual warm up and bang-heat and humidity. I luv it tho. Take the heat anyday. Much much cooler in Northern Ont. right now so i stay away from cottage till July. Much nicer. Gettin kinda lonely here with no news eh? MOO

We've probably gone over this before, way back when. But, on the $$ the Ants receive, whether thru donations via a fund, or straight to them (does anyone do that?) do they have to pay taxes?

Like on the discussion on Haleigh, when DOES one go back to work? Caylee has been found and supposedly laid to rest. There is a trial to get thru, but heck, that might be next year, or the year after that, even. I don't have a clue where to find the posts, but it was posted before that Cindy could be (or is) on disability as related to the emotional stresses of the case. Now, is that a permanent disability? Or short term, so to speak. I can't imagine returning to life after a loved one is missing, and found to be dead--but people of all walks of life have, and I probably would, too.

[lorettalockhorn]

Nawny is headed toward the rolling pin jav... don't make me!:hat:

LMAO We'll give you an alibi. "Honest, officers. Nawny was online with us when the rolling pin attack took place."

If that doesn't work, we'll post your bail. You want we should call Lenny Padilla? Or Cobra?

[Amy]

Oh, WKRP.

http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2009/4/2/land_where_caylees_remains_found_sold.html

Land Where Caylee’s Remains Found Sold

ORANGE COUNTY -- It looks like bounty hunter Leonard Padilla's hopes of building a permanent memorial for Caylee Anthony is a no go.

As News 13 first reported March 22, Padilla put in a $50,000 bid for the land that Caylee's remains were found on.

News 13 was told that there were plans to build fountains, benches and a memory wall for the toddler found deceased on the land less than a mile from her home Dec. 11, 2008.

According to Brad Conway, George and Cindy Anthony's attorney, he knows who the land has been sold to, but would not reveal his name.

Conway said the new owner will "do something good" with it.

No offense to Brad Conway, but I think I will wait for an official version of whether or not LP got the land, or even if it has indeed sold. This is the fellow who kept saying the Casey and the A's had been requesting allowance for Casey to 1. attend Caylee's funeral. 2. Have a private face-to-face w/the other A's for mourning (well before the funeral/memorial) and 3. Have a private "memorial" w/all the A's--and each and every time, the jail officials have said there had been no request made to them.

[lorettalockhorn]

You ask good questions! I am not a tax attorney, but lack of expertise never stops me from yapping...

Some important questions come up: Are they officers of the Caylee Marie Anthony Foundation? And is the foundation a registered 501c3 (or whatever 501 applies to this specific foundation type)? If so, that is a tax-exempt organization. So...no taxes.

If not, several things come into play. Transportation. lodging, and food: probably not taxable. They are getting nothing from it. It is like when I was supposed to appear on the Weakest Link: my appearance was all to their benefit, I was only getting these things to make me appear. If I got an appearance fee, though, that should be taxed. It is all to the benefit of the "donor", who writes it off as a business expense, as long as they get something from it, for example, an appearance on GMA or Larry King.

The sale of the pictures should be no different from selling a car. Taxes would have to be paid (please forget and get audited, Ant's!). By whomever the owner of the photos is. So if they acted as an agent for the owner, no taxes from them.

I think.

Good point and good question about whether or not these considerations were made to G&C or to whichever one of the Caylee foundations. Just to backtrack a little, I guess part of what I was trying to say about the 1/4 - 1/2 a mil or even more (at this point) is whether or not the psychophANTs get real money or a nice room and a steak and a free attorney, it's still items and services that most folks have to actually pay for. IMAGINE, Cindy! Some people pay their own way and shell out real money for an attorney!

So way back to Mr. Conway's comment about Kiomarie's testimony being worthless because of $20,000, he can shuttttttttttteeeeeeeeeeeee.

[One2Snoop]

Since i am Canadian our laws differ. I am not sure how it works in the U.S. but i do know here in order to get a long term disability for a stress related leave you have to be in a very bad state. C would not qualify for that here. She is able to dress herself,get out the door,drive a car etc. Insurance companies here would have you to every and any Dr. you needed to help you get back on your feet. Starting back with a graduated work week. She has never been admitted to hospital yadayada-would never meet the standard for long term. I cant imagine what it would be like either but C really does not display any of the normal grieving process. Stuck in perpetual denial i guess. She could greatly benefit from some help but i am sure she doesn't see that. One thing i am having a hard time buying is that Liar told anyone where the body was-just not buying it till i see some real proof. And poor Amy-Liar sticks the knife in and now gets to twist it-and all from her jail cell. Bring on the rolling pins ladies. If we adopt a mob mentality they might be hard pressed to figure out which one of us did it :biggrin: MOO

I don't remember anything about Cindy being on disability because of this situation. IMO, It certainly wouldn't be a state mandated disability, because those usually take 2-3 years to process thru their, "normal" channels. :rolleyes:

Perhaps her employer was nice enough to grant her disability thru their organization or paid leave for an extended period of time. :shrug: Considering our current economic times, I find it hard to believe she'd be receiving benefits through "normal" channels in such a short period of time.

I have a sister thats diabetic, and over the years its eventually taken a tole on her health. She wants to work, but physically she can't. She's suffered from multiple strokes, etc.... and it took her over two years to go through the disability process.

I find it highly unlikely that Cindy was given a "pass" over those who are actually physically suffering and applying for disability.
That's seriously wrong IMO, if it happened - but IMO, I don't think it did.

[Amy]

Thumbs up on the mob idea. :tongue: I know for certain that George is now eligible for disability. Our good friend and attorney is a disability expert and he said, "Once hospitalized for depression, it is easier to get disability than if you rolled into a disability hearing in court, in a wheelchair."

I wonder exactly what were the reasons for George's previous disability runs? He had just gotten back to work when Caylee was killed. IIRC, he had been on disability even before that, as in had gone back to work, then on disability again. I just assumed some physical disability, altho George does seem healthy enough, no back braces or those belts some folks wear, no splints on ankles, knees or wrists many times seen on people who have had disabilities related to those areas. So, were his previous disabilities physical or mental?

Maybe it wasn't on this message board, but I do remember I was taken to task about conjecturing that Cindy was NOT on disability--the poster indicated she would qualify thru her employment as she certainly could not work under the circumstances, but that was after her paid time off was used, and it was months ago. The other thing was the Family leave-I guess Caylee would qualify as immediate family as she lived w/the A's? (I know my brother & sisters and their children are my immediate family--but insurance and HR regulations support a different definition.) I have not investigated, as have not had the need, but I don't think the family leave is a PAID leave. Just an LOA that protects your returning to that place of employment.

I just can't imagine Cindy qualifying for emotional or mental disability @ this point. Especially if she is able to be in charge of something like the Caylee fund.

[lorettalockhorn]

ROTFL!!! I just put you in the will! You get the golden rolling pin! And medical power of attorney! As long as the plug is in, everybody in my family behaves. :hat:

http://i41.tinypic.com/o5545t.jpg

Queen of the RP!!!!

[One2Snoop]

Baez: Successful Week Of Depositions In Casey Anthony Case
Saturday, April 04, 2009 7:49:54 AM

ORLANDO -- Depositions have wrapped up for the week in the Case Against Casey, and Jose Baez says they've been successful.

The supervisor of meter reader Roy Kronk was questioned Friday, as well as Orange County Sheriff's investigators.

The concern is the first time Kronk phoned in about finding Caylee Anthony's remains.

Kronk called months before her body was found and Baez said he wants to know what happened the first time around.

"Why law enforcement behaved in the way they did and why this case was investigated in that way, and in hopes that if a more thorough job would have been done, we believe there could have been something to help us exonerate our clients," Baez said.

Richard Cain, the deputy who was sent to investigate the scene the first time around, did not show up for questioning Friday.

The state is expected to release more documents next week.

http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2009/4/3/did_lee_anthony_lead_investigators_to_caylees_rema ins.html

[Native Alien]

Baez: Successful Week Of Depositions In Casey Anthony Case
Saturday, April 04, 2009 7:49:54 AM



"Why law enforcement behaved in the way they did and why this case was investigated in that way, and in hopes that if a more thorough job would have been done, we believe there could have been something to help us exonerate our clients," Baez said.


http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2009/4/3/did_lee_anthony_lead_investigators_to_caylees_rema ins.html

Clients, what Clients? I thought that it was only one client.

[lorettalockhorn]

Clients, what Clients? I thought that it was only one client.

Oh no! Bozo's going for the One Life to Live Defense. SOPDI Some Other Personality Did It.

You know, ever since the Cain story and Kronk's August phone calls came to light, I've heard the THs say that Baez will use this to prove that the body was dumped at The Zone after Casey's final arrest. I think the opposite; Cain didn't search anywhere, let alone where Caylee was found.

And I hate to bash the detectives since they've done such a tireless and thorough job, but shame on Yuri for writing off the sighting as being in an area that was already searched. Why didn't it occur to him that Casey could have had an accomplice who did dump Caylee after she was arrested??

[Amy]

Clients, what Clients? I thought that it was only one client.

"We?" Maybe he has a mouse in his pocket, too. "we" and "our clients. Sure sounds like he felt he represented more than just Casey, huh? Maybe big powerful high profile attorney was able to work for Mr Conway and Mr Lukas and get some questions in for their clients?

[shadydaisy]

http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/1621514/casey_anthony_case_guards_private_eye.html?cat=17

I thought it was, shall we say, interesting. Particularly about what C&G did after they returned to FL from CA when they were told bones were found.

[lorettalockhorn]

Daisy, how in the world could they have had any appetite? And it seems more and more likely (at least until we get the skinny from D Casey under oath) that they knew that those remains were Caylee's. For most folks, regardless of whether or not they knew would have been mourning. Then again, these people aren't normal.

[shadydaisy]

I'm floored. I don't know what to think - they came home because of the news, and yet they wine and dine at a 4 star restaurant. LE would have been holding me back from the wooded lot. They knew.

[Gatordog]

Okay, here I go, channelling JB :D

JB: Mrs. Anthony, who owns the Sunbird?
CA: Casey has the use of...
JB: Your Honor, move to strike! Mrs. Anthony, in whose name is the car registered?
CA: Well, mine, but...
JB: So, it is true that YOUR car contained the odor of decomposition?
CA: Well, yes, but...
JB: And as a nurse, are you aware of the chemical composition of chloroform?
CA: Well, yes, but...
JB: Which was also found in YOUR car?
CA: But...yes.
JB: And from whose house did the Pooh blanket come from?
CA: Well, mine, but...
JB: And the garbage bags, the duct tape, the sticker, the clothing...everything from the dump site?
CA: My house.
JB: Why do you think that Casey repeatedly ran out of gas throughout the month Caylee was "missing"?
CA: I really don't know.
JB: Isn't it true, Mrs. Anthony, that you were sneaking around and using the Sunbird to accomplish your nefarious deeds? Hoping that your crimes would be laid at her door? Isn't it true that she could never keep track of the amount of gas she had because unbeknownst to her, YOU were using her gasoline?
JB: If it please the court, I propose that my client is not the heinous perpetrator of this crime, but merely the innocent victim of a mother who forgot her place and intended to harm her daughter in the worst way she could think of for being a vast disappointment. Mrs. Cindy Anthony nearly choked the life out of her daughter on the night of June 15, 2008 and proceeded to take further revenge on a daughter she considered a miserable failure by slaying her beloved child and stringing her along as to the child's safe return for over a month!

How's that for JB's Perry Mason moment? (I know, I know, the words are too big for JB) :seeya:

Wow Java, you are so good. You should be writing scripts in Hollywood or going to law school. ;)

Gator

[Gatordog]

I love Brad Conway saying that KioMarie isn't credible because she got $20k from the Enquirer. http://www.wesh.com/news/19073972/detail.html

Because his clients actions just scream "trust me".

So how much did his clients' receive in "licensing agreements" for photos used in the PEOPLE magazine story? But then, the Anthonys' aren't credible even if they haven't received one penny.

Gator

[Gatordog]

Oh, WKRP.

http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2009/4/2/land_where_caylees_remains_found_sold.html

Land Where Caylee’s Remains Found Sold

ORANGE COUNTY -- It looks like bounty hunter Leonard Padilla's hopes of building a permanent memorial for Caylee Anthony is a no go.

As News 13 first reported March 22, Padilla put in a $50,000 bid for the land that Caylee's remains were found on.

News 13 was told that there were plans to build fountains, benches and a memory wall for the toddler found deceased on the land less than a mile from her home Dec. 11, 2008.

According to Brad Conway, George and Cindy Anthony's attorney, he knows who the land has been sold to, but would not reveal his name.

Conway said the new owner will "do something good" with it.

If it is the KidFinders organization, i hope all the people who have donated money to help find missing children appreciate their donations going to buy useless land, a drydocked boat and an ATV which isn't being used. We have anothet Silver alert for a senior citizen who is missing from Daytona. He has dementia. The Ants are probably dining on crab cakes as everyone is looking for this old gent.

gator

[Gatordog]

I wonder exactly what were the reasons for George's previous disability runs? He had just gotten back to work when Caylee was killed. IIRC, he had been on disability even before that, as in had gone back to work, then on disability again. I just assumed some physical disability, altho George does seem healthy enough, no back braces or those belts some folks wear, no splints on ankles, knees or wrists many times seen on people who have had disabilities related to those areas. So, were his previous disabilities physical or mental?

Maybe it wasn't on this message board, but I do remember I was taken to task about conjecturing that Cindy was NOT on disability--the poster indicated she would qualify thru her employment as she certainly could not work under the circumstances, but that was after her paid time off was used, and it was months ago. The other thing was the Family leave-I guess Caylee would qualify as immediate family as she lived w/the A's? (I know my brother & sisters and their children are my immediate family--but insurance and HR regulations support a different definition.) I have not investigated, as have not had the need, but I don't think the family leave is a PAID leave. Just an LOA that protects your returning to that place of employment.

I just can't imagine Cindy qualifying for emotional or mental disability @ this point. Especially if she is able to be in charge of something like the Caylee fund.

Hi Amy - I think George was out on disability due to a knee injury from his LE days. He had a knee replacement and was able to work again.

Gator

[Native Alien]

Isn't it possible that Casey is a skitzo? I mean who does that? What kind of socio can kill a baby?

I can't take it! Every day I read about it and I just can't understand it.

Calm down, and think on this a minute. The very reason that most people can't identify with Casey and what she did in murdering her daughter, is the very reason that she was able to murder her daughter.

My oldest child is studying law. She and I had a long talk about this case early on. She and I came to the conclusion that the only way that someone could understand what caused Casey to do what she did, is if they suffered the same mental defect, illness, whatever you want to call as she does.

To the rest of us, there just is no understanding.

[Native Alien]

Long story, short Java. I quit smoking about a week and half ago, been in the hospital since then with breathing problems, was back at the er yesterday because I am having problems breathing still. They say that it will go away in a while, ( I would really like to know how long "a while" is).

So yes you won and I think that we are more on the same page than most of us realize.

[shadydaisy]

I guess I'm the only one who would feel compelled to go to the site if it were my child/grandchild. I can't explain why, but I know I would feel the need to be close. Capricorn thing?

I hope everyone is breathing better than earlier. Horrible feeling, I hope it passes soon.

[Gatordog]

I guess I'm the only one who would feel compelled to go to the site if it were my child/grandchild. I can't explain why, but I know I would feel the need to be close. Capricorn thing?

I hope everyone is breathing better than earlier. Horrible feeling, I hope it passes soon.

You are not alone Shady. I would have to go there if it was someone I cared about. I wouldn't go there for myself, but for the victim. I wouldn't want my loved one to be alone. Caylee was there alone long enough. She should have been recovered with someone who cared about her there. I guess LE and the public are her only family.

Gator

[Native Alien]

My brother said something to me about this case this very morning. He said that he couldn't imagine there being anyone who could have kept me away if that had been one of our family members. He recalled a time when I stared down a man with a loaded gun on his behalf. He said that he just could not understand the Anthonys not being there for the baby. Even if they had found out later that it hadn't been Caylee.

I guess what he was trying to say that it is his conviction in my strength that would have meant that someone would have been onsite when that little body was recovered regardless of who it was.

[One2Snoop]

Casey Anthony case: George talks to WKMG and says what?
posted by halboedeker on Apr 5, 2009 10:00:51 AM

WKMG-Channel 6 this morning heralded its "exclusive interview" with George Anthony.

The station said he "breaks his silence and talks only to Local 6." He is the father of Casey Anthony, who is charged with the murder of her daughter, Caylee.

WKMG anchor Ramin Khalili said, "Yesterday the Anthonys invited Local 6 along for a maiden voyage of the S.S. Caylee Marie. The boat is billed as an extreme search-and-rescue vessel. Kid Finders Network raised about $30,000 in donations to make the purchase and then custom-designed the boat as well. It's outfitted with the latest technology that some police forces and police boats don't even have."

Then George talked briefly about the boat's sonar and design. That's all. So much for the buildup to this "report."

Khaili continued: "The Anthonys are also busy planning the Caylee foundation. The primary purpose will be to help families who are dealing with a lost or missing child. Tonight at 11 o'clock, you're going to want to watch this, more of our interview with George Anthony. How he feels he can help families deal with tragedies similar to his family's own."

I'm no fan of promos masquerading as reports. Did George say anything interesting? Well, I guess we'll have to tune in at 11.

But I'm not hopeful. Do you think George can "help families deal with tragedies similar to his family's own"? Does Caylee's strange saga parallel those of lost or missing children? Will George say anything about his suicide attempt? Are you interested in celebrating the controversial Kid Finders Network? There's a lot stacked against this "exclusive" interview.

http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2009/04/casey-anthony-case-george-talks-to-wkmg-and-says-what-.html

[One2Snoop]

Anthonys Take S.S. Caylee Marie On Maiden Voyage
Couple's Daughter Remains Jailed In Caylee's Death

POSTED: Sunday, April 5, 2009
UPDATED: 9:48 am EDT April 5, 2009

ORLANDO, Fla. -- George and Cindy Anthony were aboard the S.S. Caylee Marie, a boat billed as an "extreme" search and rescue vessel, when it went on its maiden voyage Saturday.

The Kid Finders Network raised about $30,000 in donations to purchase the boat, which is outfitted with the latest technology, including equipment some police forces do not possess.

The Anthonys said they are planning a "Caylee Foundation," which will have a primary purpose of helping families that are dealing with a missing child.

The Anthonys' daughter, Casey Anthony, is charged with murder in the death of Caylee Marie Anthony, who was 2 years old when she was reported missing over the summer. Caylee's remains were found in December.

Casey Anthony remains jailed in her daughter's death.

http://www.clickorlando.com/news/19098619/detail.html#-

[One2Snoop]

The comments at the above link are worth reading :eek: it appears everyone shares the same sentiments we do, or is that you guys posting all that stuff on there? :tongue:

[lorettalockhorn]

I guess I'm the only one who would feel compelled to go to the site if it were my child/grandchild. I can't explain why, but I know I would feel the need to be close. Capricorn thing?

I hope everyone is breathing better than earlier. Horrible feeling, I hope it passes soon.

I would go. I'd be afraid, but would feel compelled. Something tells me that LE probably offered them a low-key escort when they were met at the airport when they arrived from Cali. Instead they decided to dine on mince and slices of quince on ABC's dime. Pigs that they are; they certainly didn't seem too conservative at the restaurant.

[lorettalockhorn]

The comments at the above link are worth reading :eek: it appears everyone shares the same sentiments we do, or is that you guys posting all that stuff on there? :tongue:

I FLOVE Hal Boedeker! And those comments are great. The one that makes the most sense in light of the Sociopathic SycophANTs search boat is Ann..I agree "precious Caylee was never missing..she was "MURDERED"! Justice for Caylee Marie Anthony. The only way this new mission of George's would make sense is if this is a cadaver boat.

All the great outfits/charities that are already in existence AND on the up and up, and G&C hook up with the Milsteads. This whole idea sounds half-baked to me.

[Amy]

Anthonys Take S.S. Caylee Marie On Maiden Voyage
Couple's Daughter Remains Jailed In Caylee's Death

POSTED: Sunday, April 5, 2009
UPDATED: 9:48 am EDT April 5, 2009

ORLANDO, Fla. -- George and Cindy Anthony were aboard the S.S. Caylee Marie, a boat billed as an "extreme" search and rescue vessel, when it went on its maiden voyage Saturday.

The Kid Finders Network raised about $30,000 in donations to purchase the boat, which is outfitted with the latest technology, including equipment some police forces do not possess.

The Anthonys said they are planning a "Caylee Foundation," which will have a primary purpose of helping families that are dealing with a missing child.

The Anthonys' daughter, Casey Anthony, is charged with murder in the death of Caylee Marie Anthony, who was 2 years old when she was reported missing over the summer. Caylee's remains were found in December.

Casey Anthony remains jailed in her daughter's death.

http://www.clickorlando.com/news/19098619/detail.html#-

Ahhh.....so it hadn't had its "maiden voyage" yet, that must be the reason it hasn't been used in recent searches. Oh, and I guess the fact that the missing weren't children must have played a factor? Even if it wasn't feasible to use the boat, with all the special equipment that even police boats don't have, you would think the A's would have OFFERED the services of the boat.

Planning a Caylee Foundation? What happened to the one already established (or was it ,ore than one?) The money in that one certainly will not be used for the safe return of Caylee anymore. Seems than any burial/funeral/cremation costs would surely be settled by now. Wasn't what was left to be used for missing children? They have to set up a NEW fund/foundation to help families of missing children? Sure hope they are more effective than KFN---oooopssss!!!!! Nope, looks like the boat actually belongs to KFN? They paid for it, maybe just letting George keep it in his driveway since it bears Caylee's name?

[Amy]

The comments at the above link are worth reading :eek: it appears everyone shares the same sentiments we do, or is that you guys posting all that stuff on there? :tongue:

Sure didn't see much support @ all for any of the A's, that's for sure. One poster did seem to support KFN....like they were above board when the A's came on board? I think NOT!!!!

[lorettalockhorn]

Like the GPS based fishing sonar? I wonder why LE doesn't have fishing sonar?

Because they deal in reality rather than fishing expeditions?!

[lorettalockhorn]

Ha-good one. The last people i would want to lay eyes on or even speak with would be G&C if i had a missing child. What could they have to offer anyone other than a new sparkly boat.

GPS directions to Denial River?!

[Gatordog]

:flamemad:Like the GPS based fishing sonar? I wonder why LE doesn't have fishing sonar?

They could have taken it out any day of the week and they wait for a Saturday when the temperature reached 87 degrees and not a cloud in sight. Wonder if they packed a picnic basket. I'd like to know where they took this maiden voyage. It really is a ridiculous boat to use for searching for missing children. When LE was searching, they asked for people who had air boats to volunteer. They had an air boat out on the Little Econ. I saw it in Jay Blanchard Park slowly scanning the river.

Just curious - if they are going to search for missing children, why aren't they on their way to California to search for Sandra Cantu? The police said they are going to search all the canals. EARTH TO GEORGE - there is a missing child in California and they could use your equipment. That is if you're not entered in a fishing competition.

I'd like a news reporter to ask that question to George. What about Sandra? http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-angry013.gif (http://www.freesmileys.org)


Gator

[Gatordog]

I would go. I'd be afraid, but would feel compelled. Something tells me that LE probably offered them a low-key escort when they were met at the airport when they arrived from Cali. Instead they decided to dine on mince and slices of quince on ABC's dime. Pigs that they are; they certainly didn't seem too conservative at the restaurant.

Loretta, it is just disgusting. These "people" are dispicable. Their precious granddaughter was murdered and they are acting as if they won the lottery. I've mourned for dogs longer than they have mourned for Caylee.

Gator

[Gatordog]

Do you hear alot of public outcry Gator?

I would say that there isn't a public outcry only because people are being respectful. When the liar was home on bail, that's when the people were protesting. I can say that I have not met one person who supports the family or believes their stories. I think the fact that so few people attended the memorial service was due to the community's dislike of the Anthonys' antics. A friend of mine did go and she said that no way was there 1,000 people there as stated on the news. She would estimate it to be closer to 500.

Gator

[lorettalockhorn]

Loretta, it is just disgusting. These "people" are dispicable. Their precious granddaughter was murdered and they are acting as if they won the lottery. I've mourned for dogs longer than they have mourned for Caylee.

Gator

Well put! That they would go to a restaurant and order big is just appalling in this instance. Wouldn't most folks be eating an omelet in the room and avoiding a public appearance? It's like the Ants version of the last supper. Only Casey was in jail and couldn't stand up and own up to the betrayal.

WAIT! All the Ants are Judas.

[lorettalockhorn]

I would say that there isn't a public outcry only because people are being respectful. When the liar was home on bail, that's when the people were protesting. I can say that I have not met one person who supports the family or believes their stories. I think the fact that so few people attended the memorial service was due to the community's dislike of the Anthonys' antics. A friend of mine did go and she said that no way was there 1,000 people there as stated on the news. She would estimate it to be closer to 500.

Gator

So, so sad.

:rose: Caylee :rose:

[Gatordog]

WFTV reports there will be a doc dump today - maybe this morning. Hundreds of pages are coming...:read:

Gator

[shadydaisy]

Danagher - too funny - you were right! I'd have to be there to make sure they didn't miss anything. Actually, I probably would have checked a 10 mile radius myself, using scuba gear when the area was underwater. I can be a tad neurotic....but it was a missing child I'd be looking for.

I hate the whole boat thing. When he goes fishing he'll scan the water for signs of missing children? C&G helped no one who was looking for Caylee. They deserve the same treatment from someone they try to "help".

[Gatordog]

http://www.wesh.com/news/19103233/detail.html

[Gatordog]

The Skipper and Gilligan cruise Central Florida waterways. :punch:

http://www.clickorlando.com/news/19098619/detail.html#video

[Amy]

The Skipper and Gilligan cruise Central Florida waterways. :punch:

http://www.clickorlando.com/news/19098619/detail.html#video

I didn't get to see the maiden voyage. But I did get to see Baez, looking so happy to be the center of attention, his little smirk w/all the microphones surrounding him as he walks along. And, his walking along w/his cell phone attached to his ear--just like Mark Geragos. Maybe Mark was his hero, and he wants to look/act just like him?

[One2Snoop]

Videos, New Pics Released In Anthony Case
Woman, 23, Remains Jailed In Daughter's Death

POSTED: Monday, April 6, 2009
UPDATED: 12:50 pm EDT April 6, 2009

ORLANDO, Fla. -- Prosecutors on Monday released hours of taped interviews by detectives investigating the slaying of Caylee Anthony, and they say the evidence links the toddler's mother, Casey Anthony, to the death.

The new files, released on DVDs, show an interview between Anthony and the FBI on Oct. 14 -- the day a grand jury indicted her on murder charges in the death of her daughter, Caylee -- Anthony said repeatedly that she and her attorney, Jose Baez, would be willing to talk to detectives about Caylee’s disappearance.

"We have discussed before that we have no problems sitting down together, him and I, speaking to law enforcement, or listening to the questions you have, him and I, discussing it, and we go from there," Anthony said.

Anthony then called Baez to arrange the meeting with the FBI.

"She invoked (her attorney-client privilege), but she also said her exasperation is the same as ours," an FBI agent said to Baez on the phone. "You guys want the opportunity to speak to law enforcement face to face. And if you guys are interested in that, let’s get that done. Quit the finger-pointing."

While awaiting Baez's arrival, Anthony talked about her then-missing daughter.

"I as a mom, I know in my gut -- there's a feeling as a parent you know certain things about your child, you can feel that connection, and I still have that feeling, that presence -- I know that she's alive. Whether you have a bucket load of evidence downstairs that contradicts that and says otherwise, or all you have is speculation or nothing at all," Anthony said.

The video then shows FBI agent Nick Savage informing Casey Anthony that they have a lot of evidence against her.

"We have more than speculation. We have a lot," he said.

When Baez arrived at the jail, it appeared as if he and his client would answer questions.

"He's going to ask you a question. You don't say anything else other than the answer," Baez said to Anthony.

"We would listen and discuss it, and if we have something to respond, we'll respond," Casey Anthony said.

"Do you want to speak to me in private, so we can clarify this?" Baez asked Casey Anthony.

"Yes," she said.

Baez and Casey Anthony were then escorted to another room that contained no cameras and microphones, and when they returned, Baez announced that his client would not answer any questions.

"I'll just go ahead and state for the record that she's invoking her right to counsel, and at this time requests to go to the jail," Baez said.

It's not known if Casey Anthony genuinely wanted to answer the questions.

Another DVD shows a two-hour conversation between Casey Anthony's brother, Lee Anthony, and her former boyfriend, Anthony Lazzaro, who allowed police to place four cameras in his car to tape the dialogue.

"Does she realy like to lie a lot?" Lazzaro asked.

"My sister -- ever since middle school and high school -- I don't know if I can even say that now. Was she doing it -- telling white lies -- to better herself or just to do it. I want to figure out which Casey I'm dealing with," Lee Anthony said.

Check back with ClickOrlando.com later for video of the entire conversation.

Never before seen images were also released on Monday, including pictures that the state thinks shows a connection between the wooded lot where Caylee's remains were found and the home of Casey Anthony's parents, where Caylee lived with her mother.

A gas can found in the shed at the east Orange County home had a piece of duct tape and the name of the tape manufacturer -- Henkel -- is seen on the outside of the duct tape.

Casey Anthony's defense team has said that Henkel is a popular brand of duct tape.

Another image showed Casey Anthony playing with Caylee, who was wearing pink-striped pants. They may be the pants Caylee was wearing when she was last seen alive.

Interviews with Roy Kronk, the utility worker who first alerted authorities to remains of a body in August, and the deputies who first responded to those calls, were also released.

There are also interviews with jail guards who oversaw Anthony when her daughter's remains were found. A jail supervisor said in one of the interviews that Casey Anthony, asked jail medical staff for a sedative after learning of the discovery of the remains. DNA tests later showed the remains belonged to her daughter.
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http://www.clickorlando.com/news/19103348/detail.html#-

[One2Snoop]

When you all click this link to watch the video do you see down below that another video that says, "boat explodes on maiden voyage"? I can't get it to play and I wondered if it was the SS Caylee Marie?

http://www.clickorlando.com/news/19098619/detail.html#-

[One2Snoop]

More Evidence Released In Casey Anthony Case

Posted: 8:00 am EDT April 6, 2009Updated: 12:59 pm EDT April 6, 2009
ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. -- Eyewitness News has obtained a new batch of evidence in the case against Casey Anthony. The State Attorney's Office in Orlando on Monday released three DVDs containing video and audio interviews along with other evidence and numerous Photobucket images.

The evidence includes Casey talking to investigators the day she was indicted and an undercover video of her brother Lee Anthony talking to her ex boyfriend, Tony Lazarro.

LEE CONVERSATION: Pt.1| Pt.2 | Pt.3 | Pt.4
CASEY PHOTOS: Evidence | Personal
IMAGES: Lee Talks To Casey's Ex
http://www.wftv.com/news/19103711/detail.html#-

The surveillance video of the conversation between Casey's former boyfriend Tony Lazarro and her brother Lee Anthony was released Monday. Lazarro cooperated with investigators by installing a hidden camera inside a car. The video shows an unfiltered conversation discussing the events surrounding Caylee disappearance including a clip showing Lees reaction to the smell in his sister's car.

"I just went, holy s**t, I couldn't even describe it smelled like garbage, but I couldn't describe. It's something you don't want to, but you actually have to smell. It was atrocious," said Lee.

In the other video that was released, Casey Anthony sat and joked with the FBI and Orange County detectives on the day she was indicted. She spoke more about her frustration over all the publicity than she did about anything else.

Detectives were trying to get her to tell them where Caylee was.

"Are there cameras in all the rooms?" asked Casey.

Casey Anthony was more concerned about the media reporting her indictment than she was about Caylee. Her second question was not about Caylee either.

"Here's my question: I know a lot of people have been asking this. I thought grand juries were supposed to be secret, but it was released to the media right off the bat," Casey said.

When the FBI agent defended the media for helping to find missing kids, Casey changed her tune immediately.

"The exposure has helped bring in so many tips for my daughter," she said.

Even as detectives tried to get her to break down, open up and put an end to the mystery of where Caylee was Casey wouldn't budge.

"I know in my gut. The feeling as a parent, you know certain things about your child. You can feel that connection and I still have that feeling that presence. I know she's alive. Whether you have a bucket load of evidence, or speculation, or nothing at all," stated Casey.

Casey claimed she was willing to open up to detectives all along, but when they cornered her and said, "Let's do it" she called her attorney to sheriff's headquarters and once again she refused.

Nearly two months later, Caylee's remains were found and that cool and calm Casey Anthony, Eyewitness News was told, Hyperventilated and asked for medication.

Prosecutors released documents in February showing the same type of laundry bag, duct tape and plastic bag discovered with the child's body also were found in the house where Caylee lived.

Casey Anthony was charged with first-degree murder after her daughter Caylee was found dead in December, months after disappearing.

She claims that Caylee was kidnapped by a baby sitter and has pleaded not guilty. A month passed before authorities were notified of her disappearance.

[One2Snoop]

I don't see it, Snoop. But I'd like to, lol!

How weird - its not there anymore. Looks like they swapped it out for today's updates. :shrug:

[One2Snoop]

Anyone know who Nathan L. is and why Casey had a bunch of receipts from him, including from Fusian? http://media.myfoxorlando.com/photogalleries/040609casephotosset2/1/lg/IMG_6937.htm


Wasn't it determined that Casey took a bag of trash from Lazzaro's apt? It might be one of his roommates? I'm still looking.

[Amy]

wftv.com has them up. Be warned: 4 of them, each appear to be 30 minutes long. Lee talks and talks and talks.

But the quote so far: "Sometimes it seems as if my sister lies just to lie." uh-huh, Lee, yep!

Does he still laugh inappropriately thru these tapes?

[Justice Denied?]

I agree Beemer! Makes me want to start swearing in Italian! No cure, nope. Yes it is hard for us to imagine that she saw the child as an object. I think sanity has to wide of a definition. To see a human child as an object,, as is possible for a socio to do, and to knowingly snuff out its life,,, is still sane. That' upsets me. I can understand that she saw the child as a free ticket for some things, and I get that she didn't get a lot of kudos in her world for having this child, and it didn't get her lots of attention. I'm sure her friends saw Caylee as a problem or burden. This couldn't do the socio any good. I can even see that she wanted to off the kid to piss her mother off. What I can't see to well is, why she believed she could do that, and have society accept it. Or did she truly believe that no one would figure it out? I thought socio's were smarter than that. If these are stupid questions, just :punch: me.

I'm trying.:shrug:

I honestly think that Kaycie thought that Caylee would be listed as a missing child and that would be the end of it. They would search for her for a little while and that would be the end of it. She never imagined that it would turn into a homicide investigation. JMO, MOO

[One2Snoop]

OT, but they might have found Sandra Cantu: the press conference is at 3:30. Suitcase found in an irrigation pond near her mobile home park. Hope its not her, but... :(


:eek: :eek:

[Gatordog]

Anyone know who Nathan L. is and why Casey had a bunch of receipts from him, including from Fusian? http://media.myfoxorlando.com/photogalleries/040609casephotosset2/1/lg/IMG_6937.htm

There was a guy who lives in Avalon Park (10 min south of Fusian Lounge) who had his wallet stolen. I think some of his stuff was found among the garbage at Suburban Drive. Maybe he is Nathan.

Gator

[One2Snoop]

I found him listed as a temporary roommate of Lazzaro's: http://www.cfnews13.com/Features/CaseyAnthony/KeyPlayers/Witnesses.aspx
Sometimes a bag of trash is just a bag of trash...

There was a guy who lives in Avalon Park (10 min south of Fusian Lounge) who had his wallet stolen. I think some of his stuff was found among the garbage at Suburban Drive. Maybe he is Nathan.

Gator

Java found the info - see above. :seeya:

[lorettalockhorn]

OT, but they might have found Sandra Cantu: the press conference is at 3:30. Suitcase found in an irrigation pond near her mobile home park. Hope its not her, but... :(

Just switched on JVM and I thought she said that a barrel has been cordoned off and they will have details, but nothing so far. Poor baby. :rose:

[lorettalockhorn]

OT. Another demon got Sandra Cantu. She's been identified.

Sad, sad, sad. She was so adorable skipping out of the house in that last video.

[lighthousedazy]

OT. Another demon got Sandra Cantu. She's been identified.Gosh, I hope there is a hell for these murderous demon sex offenders. :flamemad: