Caylee Anthony Case Discussion Only

[lorettalockhorn]

Thanks Nawny. I was getting lonely here. I see that Loretta snuck in for a minute. Maybe she's on another thread.

Did you see JVM tonight or NG? I wonder if there really is evidence or a body in that dumpster. I was surprised to see the investigators go into that garbage dumpster in their street clothes and not coveralls. If not for evidence, but to protect their own clothing.

Gator

I'm chasing you, but you have a head start! I agree with JVM that the dumpster search seems to be some sort of confluence. The dogs were out today, Crystal's DNA was requested today, Ron went into the trailer today, Misty was taken in for questioning again today. Seems too coincidental.

And speaking of inconsistencies (okay, I know we weren't), LE said recently that there would be no new ground searches in the near future, that they were going to concentrate on leads, yet today the dogs came out.

[Gatordog]

Gator didn't they move to Florida with zero credit after George lost the car business? And, didn't the get that house on an assumable Mtg? So it wasn't much of a bankroll I'd guess. Those two went back together as a business arrangement. He asked for a divorce probably because he had a honey bunny, and men are stuck on stupid when they get a young porn flick come to life. :rolleyes: Once the young chic sees them in their feety pajamas, the guy gets a look at her tail lights.

Show me the love?

Hah! And it was probably the headlights that got him in the first place.

Gator

[javahog]

Right Shady! They don't live on this planet. They live in la la caseyland. She destroyed a beautiful life and they were part of that. I tried everything my compassionate heart could imagine but the truth is stranger than fiction. Those people are past the shock factor. They need to fess up and deal now.

They are obsessed with cameras and everyone in their right mind knows it. This business with Zanny the nanny is about someone who doesn't acquiesce to Ms Casey. Just because they always did, doesn't mean the rest of society will. They need to come forward and remove the slander so Zenaida can move on with her life. She didn't do anything to hurt them. She wants what liar took away from her; Her damn name.

This stuff definitely speaks volumes about them. I was about to say that the only one in the family that is normal is Lee, but I just remembered his CMA routine. I guess he's a nutcase too.

I posted earlier about Lacey Peterson's family. What tremendous class they showed during the horrible nightmare they suffered. The Anthony's are not the only people who have suffered greatly. They have no excuses for this crap they act out.

I vividly remember the day Lacy's mother Sharon R said she wanted the baby to be in the same coffin with Lacey because she wanted her to be buried with her arms around baby Conner. The coroner told her that wouldn't be possible because, Lacey had no arms.

She still stood tall and never attacked the man who killed her daughter. That's a real lady right there.

God bless those strong people. :rose:

I've always wondered about that...the coroner didn't need to tell her that. They could have gotten "close enough" without giving her that image to suffer with forever. I mean, really!

I think of OJ's kids, though: they must know what he did, but he is still their dad. When family kills family must be the worst...

[javahog]

Hey did your parents know my parents? Mine had a jewelry business and I worked since I was 11 years old. When my sibs and I got older we were given that same choice.

This sense of entitlement the liar's generation has goes up my craw a mile and a half. *MOST* of them underqualified to work at Dunkin. Can't get a cup of coffee order right to save my life! But they're smart enough to get the most by doing the least. Our future leaders... sigh ~~~~

Boy, do I get you, Dan...We would hire kids in their 20's, and they would be in shock when told to do something or not, like: come to work on time, please (:eek:), please don;t wear a see-through top for a school tour (:eek:) etc. I swear, NO ONE had ever told them NO before. My favorite was when one spoiled brat called in "sick" because her grandmother had died 300 miles away, but the caller id placed her at home down the street. I made her bring in an obit, lol! She couldn't produce it, of course, hahhahhah!

We're doomed.

[SaraSidle]

Gator didn't they move to Florida with zero credit after George lost the car business? And, didn't the get that house on an assumable Mtg? So it wasn't much of a bankroll I'd guess. Those two went back together as a business arrangement. He asked for a divorce probably because he had a honey bunny, and men are stuck on stupid when they get a young porn flick come to life. :rolleyes: Once the young chic sees them in their feety pajamas, the guy gets a look at her tail lights.

Show me the love?

You are waay too funny. I get a laugh from you almost every day. thank you.........sara

[Justice Denied?]

Hearing scheduled in
Anthony case

Last Edited: Thursday, 26 Feb 2009, 5:44 PM EST
Created On: Thursday, 26 Feb 2009, 5:42 PM EST

* By Greg Engle, FOX 35 NEWS

- A hearing in the Casey Anthony case will be held Monday afternoon to hear a motion by the defense that would prevent the public release of thousands of photos of Anthony.

The defense said Wednesday they were given two discs containing hundreds if not thousands of photos of Anthony by the state attorney’s office.

Judge Stan Strickland will hear arguments from defense attorney Jose Baez that the photos are irrelevant to the murder case against his client and that the release of the photos to the media would be embarrassing and could constitute harassment.

Casey Anthony’s 2 year old daughter Caylee was reported missing last June, nearly a month after she was last seen. Her remains were found in December.

In the motion Baez claims that releasing the photos, some of which were taken long before her daughter went missing, would serve to only sensationalize the case and paint the Anthony in a negative light.

Baez also attached a copy of a Fox News story about a Casey Anthony doll being sold on Ebay. The doll is wearing a flag draped dress similar to a photo of Anthony that was obtained by the media. Baez said this is proof of what could happen if other photos are released.

The hearing is scheduled for 4:15 Monday afternoon and Casey Anthony is expected to attend.

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news/022509Anthony_Hearing_Scheduled

Casey doesn't want them released because she was planning to sell them. JMO

[DrewBerry]

Anthonys Have 20 Days To Prove Emotional Distress

Thursday, February 26, 2009 – updated: 9:06 am EST February 26, 2009
ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. -- Cindy and George Anthony were supposed to give depositions Thursday morning, but a judge is giving them more time. The Anthonys have 20 days to turn over medical records to prove they're emotionally unable to answer questions in the suit.

The civil case against Casey Anthony was fought in court Wednesday afternoon. Casey's parents, George and Cindy Anthony, tried to get out of answering questions under oath in a defamation lawsuit filed against their daughter Casey and they were successful, at least for a now.

The day before the Anthonys were supposed to be questioned about their public comments naming Zenaida Gonzalez as the woman who took Caylee, the Anthonys' attorney told the judge it wouldn't be fair to force them to face depositions with cameras rolling.

VIDEO REPORT: Judge Puts Off Questioning

George Anthony testified against his daughter Casey on October 14 of last year before a grand jury for first-degree murder. He and Cindy testified at Casey's bond hearing in July when they wanted to get her out of jail, only days after George said he believed that Caylee's body had been in Casey's car trunk

But Wednesday, their attorney went to court telling a judge that they are not emotionally able to handle testifying in the defamation lawsuit against their daughter Casey.

"They believed that they had a murder case, but they didn't have a body. Now they do and you can see what it's done to this family," attorney Brad Conway said Wednesday.

The Anthonys' attorney said both are under a doctor's care as they grieve for their granddaughter Caylee, who disappeared eight months ago and whose remains were found more than two months ago, but he did not bring any evidence to court Wednesday to show that would legally prevent them from testifying.

"To spend three hours and answer questions for my client, who kind of gets lost in all of this and her rights, is probably the least painful thing they're gonna have to do in the next month," attorney Keith Mitnik said.

Mitnik, Zenaida Gonzalez's attorney, says she has a right to clear her name, she was sucked into the case through no actions of her own and the Anthonys have actually perpetuated the accusations that have ruined her reputation, such as a statement Cindy made in July about Casey forgiving Zenaida for taking off with Caylee.

"She forgives her and wants her to bring Caylee back to us safely," Cindy said in July.

"It is frustrating. She needs to move forward. We're gonna get 'em under oath. I wish tomorrow, but it's coming," Mitnik said.

It could boil down to whether the defense wants to use Zenaida Gonzalez as an option for creating "reasonable doubt" in the case, which is exactly what Zenaida is worried about.

http://www.wftv.com/news/18800480/detail.html#-

GMAFB!!! Why do these people have more emotional distress than others? I cannot f'ng believe this judge is giving them time to get medical records stating they are unable to testify. Wouldn't that mean they are mentally unstable??!! Yeah, we all know that! :flamemad:
Can't wait to hear Lee moan for CMA tomorrow in his dep.

[lighthousedazy]

Eileen Wournos was on death row in Starke just like a man would serve his time until death. She admitted her crimes and said she deserved death. How many men do that?

GatorYes, I agree. Toskala, I don't think Martha's crime compares anywhere near that of a baby killer or serial killer. I know of a male doc that was charged with tax evasion, and he served just a couple of years in a nice fed pen in Fla. Another female baby killer from Macon, Ga. that killed her beautiful little 6 yo daughter is serving a life term. jmo A :rose: for Caylee

[javahog]

GMAFB!!! Why do these people have more emotional distress than others? I cannot f'ng believe this judge is giving them time to get medical records stating they are unable to testify. Wouldn't that mean they are mentally unstable??!! Yeah, we all know that! :flamemad:
Can't wait to hear Lee moan for CMA tomorrow in his dep.

I wonder how the court reporter notes wrist slobbering in her transcription? Oh, never mind, we'll find out...

[Amy]

Thanks for posting this article. I was suprised in a way. I thought it was mostly an open and shut case and it still is in my mind.

The thing is, IMO, is that these legal experts don't have ALL the evidence the prosecution has. They are only going on what has been provided to the defense in discovery, and we all know there are 22 more discs that haven't made it to Jose's hot little hands yet, therefore, not available to anyone's "experts" either.

[One2Snoop]

GMAFB!!! Why do these people have more emotional distress than others? I cannot f'ng believe this judge is giving them time to get medical records stating they are unable to testify. Wouldn't that mean they are mentally unstable??!! Yeah, we all know that! :flamemad:
Can't wait to hear Lee moan for CMA tomorrow in his dep.

javahog
I wonder how the court reporter notes wrist slobbering in her transcription? Oh, never mind, we'll find out...

:eek: OMG you guys just made me throw up in my mouth. icccckkk!

[Amy]

I dunno OS... It's a toss. One of the signs of molestation is promiscuity and yet, that is not always true. It's a tuff call. The thing that bugged me was the way he acts in her presence. He doesn't touch his wife unless they re not with Casey. I saw his hand on the back of Cindy's chair during gone of the visits, as she was nearly falling over. His baby talk with Cindy is a clue too.

Maybe it's just me, but I never heard a man talk that goo goo ga ga crap to his grown adult daughter. Something is not right here. You're right about the problem being that she is a pathological liar so she'd sound like chicken little if she squawked now. No one would believe her. Of course George did warn LE that she lies,, hmmm. Do I have issues? I think so. ;)

Cindy said to reporters, on shows, and to LE and FBI that Casey lies. Lee told LE Casey lies. The old neighbors/friends said that Casey lies. So, it wouldn't have just been George setting up a scenario with LE about Casey lying (if that is what you meant.) Now, I could see Cindy and Lee going along w/George saying that, but not the neighbors and friends, so there must have been some truth to "she lies." IMO

[One2Snoop]

Well gator all i can say is this is prolly one of the sickest family dynamics that i have witnessed in a really long time. Your prolly right after that memorial display-what the hay was that??? Still trying to wrap my head around that one. MOO

Is that a lettuce wrap you're attempting to use? Won't work IMO. :biggrin:

[Amy]

I'm chasing you, but you have a head start! I agree with JVM that the dumpster search seems to be some sort of confluence. The dogs were out today, Crystal's DNA was requested today, Ron went into the trailer today, Misty was taken in for questioning again today. Seems too coincidental.

And speaking of inconsistencies (okay, I know we weren't), LE said recently that there would be no new ground searches in the near future, that they were going to concentrate on leads, yet today the dogs came out.

And yet he was saying that they were NOT in the neighborhood because of tips or leads, but it was a normal progression. He and another officer stated that this was what happened @ this stage of the investigation of searching for a missing child. Wonder, which is it? Lead or normal progression?

[Kendu]

This is going to end for George and Cindy with a double suicide or murder suicide.

[Native Alien]

Gawd i truly hope not. In memory of Caylee i hope one of them steps up to the plate. The only bet i would place-G. Then not so much at other times. C would never hurt herself-she likes herself too much. MOO

We are having alot of the same thoughts beemeup. I don't think that either George or Cindy would kill themselves. George is too afraid and Cindy, well like you said, she is too enamored of herself.

[Native Alien]

My opine only-having said that i dont think we should be entertaining the fact that Liar may have been abused by G. We will never know. If the Liar states it is prolly a lie. The poor me pity party she prolly used alot to schmooze her friends or lie her way out of another a lie. MOO

I am at the point with Liar that I just believe the opposite of anything that she says.

[Native Alien]

Yes if G really wanted to do it-the long and the short of it is he would have done it. When people reach out such as G did during the episode they are asking for help. MOO

I agree.

[NMurphy02]

I think they were, NM.

Many times, and At Every Turn Jackie put down Laci. They gave interviews and spouted glowingly about their golden child. Over and over. Even the Amber tapes ala Paris didn't shut them up.

A particularly sad rememberance for me was when she just went missing...the Petersons and Scott went ahead with Christmas dinner at Laci's own home if I remember, while Scott flirted with the invited neighbor.."red or White". SOB. Every last one of them.

Jackie all over again if you ask me.

You're probably right. But I don't remember them shoving their faces everywhere. I do remember them being annoying, and I remember hating Scott as much as I hate Casey, but I don't remember disliking the Peterson's as much as I dislike the Anthony's. Don't get me wrong. I think the Peterson's are in major denial too, but I cannot stand the Anthony's. And I seem to remember thinking. eh, you're just insane. I do remember Jackie and Sharon getting into it a few times in court. And thinking Jackie should have more respect for Laci's family. But the Anthony's make me want to scream. It's also possible that I've blocked the whole thing out. That case made me insane. Almost as insane as this one is making me. Or maybe I'm just nuts anyway. :)

[Native Alien]

This is just an observation on my part.

Having said that, I just watched the video of Lee arriving at the office of Morgan & Morgan. Man his hair is getting gray. This is making him old before his time.

[Native Alien]

I've been looking at George lately as one who may have stayed under the radar in the Anthony cluster frick. The loud one is easy to wrestle with. It's the "still water that runs deep (and often) dirty".

I know I stuck my neck out when I intimated that he may be part of the problem with liar. (And I may be dead wrong) And even if I'm right in my suspicions, no one will ever know because, as so many know, she's a liar. In my frustrations I'm trying to find the cause/reason why liar was able to kill her child. If there is no outside reason it has to be pathological. And if it is, I'm still frustrated.

My questions would center around her parents. How did they miss that? Why did they let her take Caylee out of their house? Why do they claim they didn't know she was unemployed? What's with a nanny who supposedly took care of their granddaughter since she was a few months old? I'm stuck.

I think that a large part of what you are asking can be answered by looking at the speed at which we live our lives. They didn't know alot because they didn't ask, they didn't ask because they didn't want Casey to think that they were intruding on her life too much. They didn't know because they figured that if she wanted them to know more she would tell them.

[javahog]

Yes if G really wanted to do it-the long and the short of it is he would have done it. When people reach out such as G did during the episode they are asking for help. MOO

I'm glad he reached out. The Killer deserves no more victims or victories.

[javahog]

You're probably right. But I don't remember them shoving their faces everywhere. I do remember them being annoying, and I remember hating Scott as much as I hate Casey, but I don't remember disliking the Peterson's as much as I dislike the Anthony's. Don't get me wrong. I think the Peterson's are in major denial too, but I cannot stand the Anthony's. And I seem to remember thinking. eh, you're just insane. I do remember Jackie and Sharon getting into it a few times in court. And thinking Jackie should have more respect for Laci's family. But the Anthony's make me want to scream. It's also possible that I've blocked the whole thing out. That case made me insane. Almost as insane as this one is making me. Or maybe I'm just nuts anyway. :)

I think some of it may be the difference in coverage...we saw daily Peterson family antics out here. But now its pretty much daily with the Anthony's on a national basis...

Remember, when Scott was caught making his run for the border, he had a stash of cash from Jackie. At least CA didn't help Casey flee (yet). So, Jackie was heinous, imo, helping the Scumbeing flee.

[NMurphy02]

I think some of it may be the difference in coverage...we saw daily Peterson family antics out here. But now its pretty much daily with the Anthony's on a national basis...

Remember, when Scott was caught making his run for the border, he had a stash of cash from Jackie. At least CA didn't help Casey flee (yet). So, Jackie was heinous, imo, helping the Scumbeing flee.


That we know of. Remember they pulled both of them over near the Orlando airport :) I lived in the Bay Area at the time and it consumed the whole area, me included. I've done jury duty numerous times at the Redwood City courthouse. I honestly think it's because so much time has gone by. Plus Cindy and George have been on every show that will have them.

[lorettalockhorn]

I wonder how the court reporter notes wrist slobbering in her transcription? Oh, never mind, we'll find out...

She just inserts:

http://i27.tinypic.com/2cdzodx.jpg

[lorettalockhorn]

And yet he was saying that they were NOT in the neighborhood because of tips or leads, but it was a normal progression. He and another officer stated that this was what happened @ this stage of the investigation of searching for a missing child. Wonder, which is it? Lead or normal progression?

Not sure why I posted that in here. :confused::shrug::eek:

[DrewBerry]

I think that a large part of what you are asking can be answered by looking at the speed at which we live our lives. They didn't know alot because they didn't ask, they didn't ask because they didn't want Casey to think that they were intruding on her life too much. They didn't know because they figured that if she wanted them to know more she would tell them.

ITA. And I would add, the Ants. are all about portraying a good image to the public./I] They all participated in covering up secrets, not questioning the Liar for fear of ugliness being exposed. Cindy was the boss and attempted to control everyone in that family by living by Cindy's rule: [I]If we all pretend we are a normal family then we won't have to face the ugly secrets of who we really are.JMO.

[lorettalockhorn]

Yes if G really wanted to do it-the long and the short of it is he would have done it. When people reach out such as G did during the episode they are asking for help. MOO

I honestly think that what drove George to the suicide gesture was the coming to grips with having to testify against Casey. Not sure if he's arrived at the truth quite yet, but hopefully he's getting there.

Cindy may be a lost cause. What I do wonder is, is she willing to lie under oath to protect The Liar? She certainly doesn't have any qualms lying to the media.

[One2Snoop]

Casey Anthony's brother gives deposition in defamation case

Sarah Lundy | Sentinel Staff Writer
9:11 AM EST, February 27, 2009

Lee Anthony and his attorney arrived at the mock courtroom at Morgan & Morgan law firm at 8:45 this morning.

Anthony is going to be deposed in a civil case against his sister, Casey Anthony, who claimed a woman named Zenaida Fernandez-Gonzalez kidnapped her daughter, Caylee Marie.

A local woman with the name Zenaida Gonzalez is now suing Casey Anthony in a defamation lawsuit. This woman says she never met, knew or took care of Caylee Anthony.

Members of the media were not allowed in the 16th floor mock courtroom where the deposition was to take place.

More than a dozen news cameras captured Lee Anthony and his attorney, Thomas Luca, going into the room and continued to film through the glass as the two sat down. Neither of the men spoke to reporters.

Lee Anthony, who was dressed in a pair of jeans and white polo-type shirt, sat with his arms crossed and avoided looking at reporters.

Soon after, Gonzalez and her lawyers entered.

The media was moved into the law firm's lobby, about 50-feet from where the deposition was taking place.

Morgan & Morgan law firm is video-taping the deposition.

Luca had said earlier that if the media was allowed in the room where the deposition took place, he and his client would leave.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/orl-bk-lee-casey-anthony-deposition-022709,0,6465018.story

[Gatordog]

I think some of it may be the difference in coverage...we saw daily Peterson family antics out here. But now its pretty much daily with the Anthony's on a national basis...

Remember, when Scott was caught making his run for the border, he had a stash of cash from Jackie. At least CA didn't help Casey flee (yet). So, Jackie was heinous, imo, helping the Scumbeing flee.

There are two reasons why CA didn't help Casey flee. 1. Sherriff's Dept. was smart enough to arrest her the first day; and, 2. After George lost their money and Casey stole what was left, Cindy didn't have the $1.50 to give her for bus fare.

Gator

[Gatordog]

"The speed at which we live our lives." Yes, NA.

I'm a baby boomer. There was once a time when families were families. The transition from those days to these days happened in my time. These days bewilder me.

I don't believe the A's imagined Caylee would go off and kill Caylee. But they knew she was lazy and at best. That alone, would have made me wrestle her to the floor before I let Caylee leave with her. (If she even left with her. according to some talking heads, she most likely killed her right in the house.)

I can't take it! :shrug:

Hey Nawny,

I bet you ten to one that they wouldn't have let the liar out of the house with one of the dogs. This child was endangered beginning at the moment of conception. Seven months without prenatal care and then this sorry excuse for a family. Even if George and Cindy were able to go to court to gain custody, with all their skeletons, who knows what would have happened to Caylee. Maybe foster care and who knows how that would have turned out. It was a life doomed to be short. JMO, but the most important thing we can do for ourselves is live honestly and honestly live. Without that, everything is like a house built out of a deck of cards, it's going to fall at the slightest touch. This family was so busy living a lie and trying to be better than the Jones' that they didn't take the time to realize how blessed they were. You don't have to have new cars or the best house to be rich. (Although I wouldn't mind a 2 carat diamond :o) but to have the support and warmth of a family, a roof over your head and happy and healthy children, that is wealthy to me. When I wake up and see my dogs, when I call my mom and she is fine, and when I come to work and see my boss who is my best friend, I know I'm wealthy. If the Anthony's raised their family this way, who knows what other riches they would have, or still have.

Gator

[DrewBerry]

:eek: OMG you guys just made me throw up in my mouth. icccckkk!

You're both too funny!!:)
Can't wait to hear about wrist-kisser's deposition today. Wonder if he was able to talk "in code". Ha, ha. You know he's going to lie.

[Justice Denied?]

Hey Nawny,

I bet you ten to one that they wouldn't have let the liar out of the house with one of the dogs. This child was endangered beginning at the moment of conception. Seven months without prenatal care and then this sorry excuse for a family. Even if George and Cindy were able to go to court to gain custody, with all their skeletons, who knows what would have happened to Caylee. Maybe foster care and who knows how that would have turned out. It was a life doomed to be short. JMO, but the most important thing we can do for ourselves is live honestly and honestly live. Without that, everything is like a house built out of a deck of cards, it's going to fall at the slightest touch. This family was so busy living a lie and trying to be better than the Jones' that they didn't take the time to realize how blessed they were. You don't have to have new cars or the best house to be rich. (Although I wouldn't mind a 2 carat diamond :o) but to have the support and warmth of a family, a roof over your head and happy and healthy children, that is wealthy to me. When I wake up and see my dogs, when I call my mom and she is fine, and when I come to work and see my boss who is my best friend, I know I'm wealthy. If the Anthony's raised their family this way, who knows what other riches they would have, or still have.

Gator

Nawny,

I agree with you that we live too fast and no one is taking the time to enjoy what is important in life. It is a real shame when peopledon't know what is really going on with the people in the same house. And morals today are atrocious! My grandchildren are constantly shocking me when they tell me things that are going on.

Gator,

I loved everything you had to say. Life is so precious, we should treasure every minute of it. I always say that I am not wealthy, but I am rich. My children, my grandchildren and great-grandchildren are my treasure. And to know that none have a physical or mental disability makes me know I am truly blessed.

[Native Alien]

Part one of Lee's Deposition

http://www.wesh.com/video/18812803/index.html

There is also a part two and possibly more. I don't know how long he was in the lawyer's office.

[Tamarrow]

Originally Posted by javahog
I wonder how the court reporter notes wrist slobbering in her transcription? Oh, never mind, we'll find out...


She just inserts:

http://i27.tinypic.com/2cdzodx.jpg

:D LoL, Too Funny

[One2Snoop]

Part one of Lee's Deposition

http://www.wesh.com/video/18812803/index.html

There is also a part two and possibly more. I don't know how long he was in the lawyer's office.

Thanks for posting. One of the news articles said 3 hours.

[Native Alien]

Second Part of Lee Anthony's deposition.

http://www.wesh.com/video/18812805/index.html

[One2Snoop]

Interesting video interview with John Morgan talking about what Lee said...

Lee Anthony: I believe everything my sister tells me :rolleyes:

then Lee changes it and says "I believe everything my sister tells me because I have to".

Morgan says there's a big difference - uhhhhhh yaaaaaaa!

Fourth video clip at this link..
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/orl-bk-lee-casey-anthony-deposition-022709,0,6465018.story

[Native Alien]

Thanks for posting. One of the news articles said 3 hours.

I am only seeing about a half an hour of video to this point. There may be more on a different station's website. But I get the feeling that the attorneys have already done some editing on this deposition.

[One2Snoop]

Interview with John Morgan/Zenaida Gonzalez/ comment on the Deposition.
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/orl-bk-lee-casey-anthony-deposition-022709,0,6465018.story

[One2Snoop]

Lee Anthony: "I Believe Everything My Sister Tells Me"

Friday, February 27, 2009 – updated: 5:09 pm EST February 27, 2009
ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. -- Lee Anthony spoke in a deposition Friday morning in a civil suit filed against Casey Anthony by a woman named Zenaida Gonzalez. Casey has been charged with her daughter Caylee Anthony's murder and claims that Caylee was kidnapped by a baby sitter named Zenaida Gonzalez.

Gonzalez is suing Casey Anthony for defamation for connecting her to the disappearance of Caylee.

Lee contradicted previous statements that he's made when he testified under oath Friday. In the past, Lee Anthony told Orange County investigators and Casey's friends that she is a liar and that she's stolen money from him and other relatives.


However, Friday under oath, he told Zenaida Gonzales' lawyers that he believes everything his sister Casey has told him.

"To this day I believe everything my sister tells me," said Lee.

Lee said that he never met or seen Zenaida Gonzalez and that the first time he ever heard her name was in July when Casey was arrested.

Lee also said he believed his sister Casey when she told him in August, the first time she was released from jail that a woman named Zenaida Gonzales had taken off with Caylee and had threatened to hurt the family and Caylee if Casey went to police.

"If you go to authorities, if you tell anybody that I can harm Caylee or we know where you live, where your family lives and where your brother lives," stated Lee.

Lee said he never saw any threatening texts that Casey claimed Zenaida sent her and he never saw threatening emails on MySpace that Casey told him about, because Casey's emails between April and July had been deleted, which Casey denied doing.

"Zenaida didn't think that Caylee should've been with Casey and taking Caylee for a period of time to teach her a lesson," he said.

"I believed what she said," said Lee.

"There was no doubt in your mind? That this was not adding up?" asked Zenaida's Lawyer, John Morgan.

"No," responded Lee.

Lee also said someone emailed him Zenaida Gonzales' photo and suggested she was the "Zenaida Gonzales" who took Caylee. But Lee said she doesn't fit the description that Casey had given to him.

"If we can prove that someone else killed Caylee Anthony, then it exonerates our client," said Morgan.

Zenaida's attorney, John Morgan said he asked point blank whether Lee believes Casey killed Caylee. Morgan said Lee would not answer.

John Morgan told WFTV that he promises to take the issue to a judge.

Casey Anthony's civil attorney, Jonathan Kasen, never showed up for the hearing to represent her interests.

George and Cindy Anthony received a temporary reprieve due to their emotional state.


CASEY FILES "MOTION TO STAY"

On Thursday February 26, Casey Anthony filed a "motion to stay the release of discovery." The motion (Read Motion) asks that a judge block the release of video footage of Casey while she was in the jail's clinic on December 11 after receiving word of her daughter Caylee Anthony's body being found.

DOCUMENT: Motion To Stay Video Release

Casey Anthony is scheduled to appear in court again on Monday.

Her attorney Jose Baez wants to stop the state from releasing thousands of pictures from Casey's computer and her "photobucket" account.

However, many of the images have already been released.

http://www.wftv.com/news/18812752/detail.html

[Native Alien]

Here is part three of Lee's deposition, per the same station.

http://www.wesh.com/video/18812956/index.html

I am still not up to 3 hours but there would have been prep time and then the time to get everything settled afterwards.

[One2Snoop]

RAW VIDEO: Lee Anthony Feb 27 Deposition Part 1
Lee Anthony faced tough questioning during a deposition Friday. (02/27/09)

Part 1
http://www.wftv.com/video/18812469/index.html

Part 2
http://www.wftv.com/video/18812516/index.html

Part 3
http://www.wftv.com/video/18812516/index.html

[One2Snoop]

Tons. I actually recall her yelling at the jury and calling them names.

Can't you take a hint? You discuss everything but the Anthony case in this thread - enough already! :no:

CAYLEE/CASEY ANTHONY CASE DISCUSSION ONLY!

[lorettalockhorn]

Tons. I actually recall her yelling at the jury and calling them names.

Is there an Eileen Wuornos thread somewhere?

[DrewBerry]

I honestly think that what drove George to the suicide gesture was the coming to grips with having to testify against Casey. Not sure if he's arrived at the truth quite yet, but hopefully he's getting there.

Cindy may be a lost cause. What I do wonder is, is she willing to lie under oath to protect The Liar? She certainly doesn't have any qualms lying to the media.

Yeah, Loretta. You know Cindy will lie under oath to protect The Liar. AND, as we learned today, Lee will also lie under oath. :flamemad:We could all predict this is what he was going to do. That is one F'd up sibling relationship. . . Bizarre behaviors from every last one of the Ants. but especially bro/sis. (I'll say it again, "Run Mallory, Run!!)

[lorettalockhorn]

Hey Nawny,

I bet you ten to one that they wouldn't have let the liar out of the house with one of the dogs. This child was endangered beginning at the moment of conception. Seven months without prenatal care and then this sorry excuse for a family. Even if George and Cindy were able to go to court to gain custody, with all their skeletons, who knows what would have happened to Caylee. Maybe foster care and who knows how that would have turned out. It was a life doomed to be short. JMO, but the most important thing we can do for ourselves is live honestly and honestly live. Without that, everything is like a house built out of a deck of cards, it's going to fall at the slightest touch. This family was so busy living a lie and trying to be better than the Jones' that they didn't take the time to realize how blessed they were. You don't have to have new cars or the best house to be rich. (Although I wouldn't mind a 2 carat diamond :o) but to have the support and warmth of a family, a roof over your head and happy and healthy children, that is wealthy to me. When I wake up and see my dogs, when I call my mom and she is fine, and when I come to work and see my boss who is my best friend, I know I'm wealthy. If the Anthony's raised their family this way, who knows what other riches they would have, or still have.

Gator

Well said!

[lorettalockhorn]

Yeah, Loretta. You know Cindy will lie under oath to protect The Liar. AND, as we learned today, Lee will also lie under oath. :flamemad:We could all predict this is what he was going to do. That is one F'd up sibling relationship. . . Bizarre behaviors from every last one of the Ants. but especially bro/sis. (I'll say it again, "Run Mallory, Run!!)

Not caught up on the deposition news, but what's so hard to answer about whether or not he thinks Casey is guilty? (Although I'm not sure if/why his opinion matters.) About him believing her (whether he has to or not), didn't he tell LE that she's a liar?

Piece of work. All of them.

[lorettalockhorn]

Ask " Gatordog" she brought it up.

No, Gatordog answered one of your incessant non-Anthony case related rambles with a fact. You, on the other hand, seem unable or unwilling to back up your mostly misogynistic rants with facts or links or statistics or anything other than hyperbole.

[javahog]

Not caught up on the deposition news, but what's so hard to answer about whether or not he thinks Casey is guilty? (Although I'm not sure if/why his opinion matters.) About him believing her (whether he has to or not), didn't he tell LE that she's a liar?

Piece of work. All of them.

He answered by not answering, imo. It's easy to say, of course not! It's hard to say yes. He didn't have the intestinal fortitude to say it.

[One2Snoop]

Is there an Eileen Wuornos thread somewhere?

Several as a matter of fact....

http://boards.library.trutv.com/showthread.php?t=290978&highlight=Eileen+Wuornos

http://boards.library.trutv.com/showthread.php?t=291287&highlight=Eileen+Wuornos

[javahog]

No, Gatordog answered one of your incessant non-Anthony case related rambles with a fact. You, on the other hand, seem unable or unwilling to back up your mostly misogynistic rants with facts or links or statistics or anything other than hyperbole.

Well, this is interesting after all our discussions of NPD in this case: apparently a symptom of NPD is mysogyny. Go figure. http://samvak.tripod.com/faq79.html

[DrewBerry]

Well, this is interesting after all our discussions of NPD in this case: apparently a symptom of NPD is mysogyny. Go figure. http://samvak.tripod.com/faq79.html

good one, Java. Wonder if the poster (or should I say, imposter) will finally take the hint?? :confused:

[lorettalockhorn]

Several as a matter of fact....

http://boards.library.trutv.com/showthread.php?t=290978&highlight=Eileen+Wuornos

http://boards.library.trutv.com/showthread.php?t=291287&highlight=Eileen+Wuornos

Thanks for the links! Does Dick Masterson post there?

[lorettalockhorn]

Well, this is interesting after all our discussions of NPD in this case: apparently a symptom of NPD is mysogyny. Go figure. http://samvak.tripod.com/faq79.html

Java! I think that very point came up in the Nona Dirksmeyer case. Thanks for the link.

Thanks everyone for links! :beer: Sometimes I forget to say it. :punch:

[javahog]

Gotta love Lee's bizarre laughter!

Mwahhah...If someone's got your child, heeheeehee! you are f-ing, har, well going to do what they say, hahaha!

[javahog]

Mwahhahaha, your sister, heehee, is going down! Hahahaha!

What is wrong with these people?

[One2Snoop]

Thanks for the links! Does Dick Masterson post there?


LMAO! :eek: Gawd I hope not - perhaps we should offer up the link to DM's site. Toskala probably would enjoy it there more so than here.

[javahog]

LMAO! :eek: Gawd I hope not - perhaps we should offer up the link to DM's site. Toskala probably would enjoy it there more so than here.

Dare to dream. I have a feeling that poster knows ALL about that site, though...

[lorettalockhorn]

Mwahhahaha, your sister, heehee, is going down! Hahahaha!

What is wrong with these people?

Just now watching NG. (YEA! Mike Brooks!) How can he sit there and say that he knew Casey was lying about where she was, that he knew that she was there in Orlando? And then turn right around and say that to this day he believes her??

[javahog]

Just now watching NG. (YEA! Mike Brooks!) How can he sit there and say that he knew Casey was lying about where she was, that he knew that she was there in Orlando? And then turn right around and say that to this day he believes her??

Maybe she says things all the time, but she tells him the truth.

He just felt like he was lying like a rug watching him. And...saying if she was lying to protect her daughter, he hoped she continued to do so? wtf? Protect Caylee from what? She's dead. What more can she be protect from?

It's like Lee came to this planet through a wormhole or something!

[One2Snoop]

What's this BS about Zenaida taking over Casey's Facebook and myspace! :eek: telling her what to do.

OMG! Insane! :rolleyes:

Go Cash Bad Check

Go To Target and Buy beer for her boyfriend! LMAO Oh puhhhhlease!

[javahog]

What's this BS about Zenaida taking over Casey's Facebook and myspace! :eek: telling her what to do.

OMG! Insane! :rolleyes:

Go Cash Bad Check

Go To Target and Buy beer for her boyfriend! LMAO Oh puhhhhlease!

I have a feeling that ZG has a very different bra size than Casey.

[Gatordog]

Ask " Gatordog" she brought it up.

Hey Toskala, hiding behind a woman's skirt? Yea blame me that's okay. I was stupid enough to respond to your question. So now you blame me for your mistake. I'm not surprised. I made a mistake responding to you and I'll own up to that, but not anymore. This woman doesn't have to point fingers and make excuses.

Gator

[DrewBerry]

Just now watching NG. (YEA! Mike Brooks!) How can he sit there and say that he knew Casey was lying about where she was, that he knew that she was there in Orlando? And then turn right around and say that to this day he believes her??

Yea, again, for Mike Brooks!! He calls it like it is w/o all the drama. So, brother Lee believes everything is sister tells him. Guess we all saw that coming. Did we really expect the Liar's family to tell the truth? I was disgusted that he was laughing and carrying on while being deposed. This is about a woman's life being ruined. AND, more importantly, your sister has murdered your niece!! WTF is with these people? I think Lee just handed his sister a guilty verdict.

[lorettalockhorn]

Yea, again, for Mike Brooks!! He calls it like it is w/o all the drama. So, brother Lee believes everything is sister tells him. Guess we all saw that coming. Did we really expect the Liar's family to tell the truth? I was disgusted that he was laughing and carrying on while being deposed. This is about a woman's life being ruined. AND, more importantly, your sister has murdered your niece!! WTF is with these people? I think Lee just handed his sister a guilty verdict.

WTF is Lee laughing at in this deposition? He really should take things a little more seriously. And interesting that he just doesn't answer questions directly, for instance when he was asked about finding Casey at the Dragon Room.

And I think was is so interesting about Zenaida supposedly directing her to go to Hellmart or the Millenium Mall, etc. or she would kill Caylee or Lee or Cindy or George. Why didn't Zenaida threaten to kill Casey??

[Gatordog]

Mwahhahaha, your sister, heehee, is going down! Hahahaha!

What is wrong with these people?

I saw clips tonight on NG, I'm totally repulsed by this person. His sense of humor is bizarre and his statement that his sister lies and that he believes everything she tells him leads me to believe he is just as immoral or amoral as his sister.

[Native Alien]

This is just so sad. To see what this man is doing to himself and to know that it is going to be seen the world over.

I will say that his attorney is not very effective in this case.

[lorettalockhorn]

This is just so sad. To see what this man is doing to himself and to know that it is going to be seen the world over.

I will say that his attorney is not very effective in this case.

Running way behind, but interesting that Mr. Luca had a hearing scheduled for 10:30. I agree with Mr. Morgan that Lee expected the media to be there and make good on his threat to walk out. So glad that the media was kept out.

Lee. What an arse.

[wind149]

Gee, you don't think Cindy coached him what to say today do you guys?? NAH!! "Now Lee make sure you tell them that you believe in Casey" And Casper the Ghost is real too right??? I am sorry for my tirade last night but these people gall me to last nerve .They don't want to do a depo, because they are afraid of the media, but they sure as hell weren't when they held that circus at that church, all the network appearances, when it serves her purpose and now she just made her son lie under oath. It was all I could do but not hurl things when he says to JM, "Oh she is not the same ZFG??" These people clearly are certifiable, not only does George belong in the nuthatch, they all do, because they are not living in reality and I picked up like MB, how it seemed to him that Lee was laughing it up, hoo rah, "I believe everything my sister tells me" A talking head said she could tell he was nervous and says that he is lying through his teeth, it is like he does not even have his own mind anymore and if that is the shape of things to come, I can't wait to hear Cindy's version, or will George not sell out the granddaughter he claims to love so much? Or will he hum the same tune??

[Native Alien]

Running way behind, but interesting that Mr. Luca had a hearing scheduled for 10:30. I agree with Mr. Morgan that Lee expected the media to be there and make good on his threat to walk out. So glad that the media was kept out.

Lee. What an arse.

The deposing attorney is good, real good. He makes like a good ole boy but he is sharp. He isn't missing a trick and he certainly is respectful about it all.

[lorettalockhorn]

The deposing attorney is good, real good. He makes like a good ole boy but he is sharp. He isn't missing a trick and he certainly is respectful about it all.

Oh, I like him. He really seems like one of the good guys. (Kinda pissed that his office didn't answer my email about donations to ZFG though.)

From what I read, Morgan is a highly respected attorney and is a philanthropist of sorts.

Thanks for the Lee links earlier!

[One2Snoop]

For those who can't watch video here's the transcript from Lee's deposition today....


Lee Anthony Deposition - PDF ~ 306 pages.

http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/Stories/Local/Lee%20Anthony%20Depo.pdf

[Native Alien]

Oh, I like him. He really seems like one of the good guys. (Kinda pissed that his office didn't answer my email about donations to ZFG though.)

From what I read, Morgan is a highly respected attorney and is a philanthropist of sorts.

Thanks for the Lee links earlier!

You are welcome for the links.

Morgan is good, really good. I like the way that he makes it seem like he is apologizing for having to ask the questions that he is asking.

[lighthousedazy]

This is just so sad. To see what this man is doing to himself and to know that it is going to be seen the world over.

I will say that his attorney is not very effective in this case.IMO, I think Zenaida has the best lawyer of them all. He sounds like he stepped out of GA or ALA. :D I do think this deposition was quite damning to Casey. yeay... :beer:

[DrewBerry]

WTF is Lee laughing at in this deposition? He really should take things a little more seriously. And interesting that he just doesn't answer questions directly, for instance when he was asked about finding Casey at the Dragon Room.

And I think was is so interesting about Zenaida supposedly directing her to go to Hellmart or the Millenium Mall, etc. or she would kill Caylee or Lee or Cindy or George. Why didn't Zenaida threaten to kill Casey??

Loretta. . . Supposedly, Zenaida "was going to teach Casey a lesson." Can you believe this chit?! Well, how come there are no cell records of The Liar driving all over to Hellmart, etc. to "keep her family" from being killed. GMAFB!
Yeah, that stuff about the Dragon Room (when he's laughing like CA was "too slippery" for him to catch!!). I just about puked . . .:flamemad:
Lee is definitely drunk on Casey Koolaid (I think Mike Brooks used this one tonight!).

[lorettalockhorn]

Loretta. . . Supposedly, Zenaida "was going to teach Casey a lesson." Can you believe this chit?! Well, how come there are no cell records of The Liar driving all over to Hellmart, etc. to "keep her family" from being killed. GMAFB!
Yeah, that stuff about the Dragon Room (when he's laughing like CA was "too slippery" for him to catch!!). I just about puked . . .:flamemad:
Lee is definitely drunk on Casey Koolaid (I think Mike Brooks used this one tonight!).

HAH! Mike's on Haterade! :beer:

[DrewBerry]

This is just so sad. To see what this man is doing to himself and to know that it is going to be seen the world over.

I will say that his attorney is not very effective in this case.

I don't feel sorry for Lee at all. He could do the right thing and tell the truth to get justice for is innocent little niece. BUT, NO. . .he decides to perjure himself and defend his precious CMA. The whole dam-famly will continue to lie. JMO.

[DrewBerry]

Gee, you don't think Cindy coached him what to say today do you guys?? NAH!! "Now Lee make sure you tell them that you believe in Casey" And Casper the Ghost is real too right??? I am sorry for my tirade last night but these people gall me to last nerve .They don't want to do a depo, because they are afraid of the media, but they sure as hell weren't when they held that circus at that church, all the network appearances, when it serves her purpose and now she just made her son lie under oath. It was all I could do but not hurl things when he says to JM, "Oh she is not the same ZFG??" These people clearly are certifiable, not only does George belong in the nuthatch, they all do, because they are not living in reality and I picked up like MB, how it seemed to him that Lee was laughing it up, hoo rah, "I believe everything my sister tells me" A talking head said she could tell he was nervous and says that he is lying through his teeth, it is like he does not even have his own mind anymore and if that is the shape of things to come, I can't wait to hear Cindy's version, or will George not sell out the granddaughter he claims to love so much? Or will he hum the same tune??

Hey, Wind. JMO, but they are all liars. I doubt that they will step up and do the right thing at this point. Remember, if one decides to finally tell the truth, that means the rest of them are Liars. I had some hope in George at one point but not anymore. They all claimed to love Caylee so much. They don't know the meaning of the word.

[javahog]

Loretta. . . Supposedly, Zenaida "was going to teach Casey a lesson." Can you believe this chit?! Well, how come there are no cell records of The Liar driving all over to Hellmart, etc. to "keep her family" from being killed. GMAFB!
Yeah, that stuff about the Dragon Room (when he's laughing like CA was "too slippery" for him to catch!!). I just about puked . . .:flamemad:
Lee is definitely drunk on Casey Koolaid (I think Mike Brooks used this one tonight!).

Just about the ultimate in narcissism...even the imaginary characters are all about her!

She said the same thing in the jail, remember "what am i supposed to learn in here?" (paraphrased)

[javahog]

On page 49 Lee says he's never heard Xanax called a Zanny. right. good investigator, huh?

[One2Snoop]

I wonder if Casey will ever reveal why the Nanny needed to teach her a lesson? :rolleyes:

Thinking back, I believe it was Casey who wanted to teach Cindy a lesson - remember this?

“On the worst of worst days, remember the words spoken
Trust no one, only yourself.
With great power, comes great consequence.
What is given can be taken away.
Everyone Lies.
Everyone Dies.”

[One2Snoop]

Casey Anthony case: Lee tells lawyers that he believes his sister
posted by halboedeker on Feb 27, 2009 6:11:35 PM


"Lee Anthony in the hot seat," WESH-Channel 2 anchor Jim Payne said.

That hot seat received heavy attention on Friday newscasts as stations replayed his videotaped deposition in Zenaida Gonzalez's defamation suit against his sister, Casey Anthony.

WESH's Bob Kealing described the questions as probing and said they extended to the criminal case against Casey, who is charged with daughter Caylee's murder.

Gonzalez attorney John Morgan asked if Lee Anthony believed his sister when she said a babysitter named Zenaida Gonzalez had taken the toddler.

"To this day, I believe everything that my sister tells me," Lee Anthony said.

But WFTV-Channel 9's Kathi Belich noted that Lee had told Casey's friends and Orange County investigators that his sister is a liar.

Gonzalez's lawyers questioned him for three and a half hours, and he repeatedly declined to answer whether he believed Casey was involved in her toddler's death.

"Zenaida's attorneys asked Lee point blank whether he believed Casey killed Caylee," Belich said. "He would not answer. But Zenaida's lawyers are going to take that issue to a judge."

Gonzalez's lawyers say the answers are critical to exonerating their client, Belich said.

Lee Anthony said he never heard Gonzalez's name before Casey's arrest and that this Zenaida Gonzalez did not match Casey's description of the babysitter who took Caylee, Kealing reported.

"I'm very happy that he was able to point to me and say, 'It was not that Zenaida Gonzalez,' " Gonzalez told reporters.

WKMG-Channel 6's Adam Longo reported that Gonzalez wanted to hear the same thing from Cindy Anthony, Casey's mother.

Longo also reported that Lee Anthony had told his lawyer not to try to block the release of the taped deposition. Longo said Lee's position was: "Don't fight it. This tape is going to get out eventually. It might as well be today."

In one of the most intriguing moments, which Belich highlighted, Lee Anthony said he could figure out what had happened if he had 15 minutes alone with his sister.

What do you think of that?

http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2009/02/casey-anthony-case--12.html

[One2Snoop]

In one of the most intriguing moments, which Belich highlighted, Lee Anthony said he could figure out what had happened if he had 15 minutes alone with his sister.

What do you think of that?

Here's what I think...

Lee had more than enough time to figure all this out while Casey was out on bail - soooooooo Lee what gives? :shrug:

[mu8shark]

Anything is possible after Mary Winkler. I never would've thought that even a woman could shoot her spouse in bed with a shotgun and go to the beach ....and get off. Now I believe it's definitely possible for any woman to beat any charge. jmo Just a little clue here, I think Mary was kind of an aberration and the jury bought her little meek story.And the jury I think felt sorry for her and even liked her. This will not be the case with Casey, who partied after her child was missing and bought scanty panties and beer and got a Beautiful Life tattoo to celebrate. They are different personalities. Also, there is no instruction in the law that tells a jury if you believe a person was abused as a child and they kill their own child then give them manslaughter.It does not exist. It is very different because in Mary's case the jury believed she killed her husband due to his abuse and she was able to claim a self defense type thing. How is Casey going to claim self defense with a three year old?" She got on my nerves and so I considered that abuse and killed her.?" It will not be a factor in the guilt or innocent phase although any abuse afflicted on her as a child or teenager could come in technically in the sentencing phase, it still will not get her a light sentence. There is no provision whereby a judge would give someone a light sentence because they are abused as a child, if they are convicted of felony or first degree murder . It is just not going to happen. And I saw that one of your posts mentioned Andrea Yates. How can you mention her and Casey in the same breath? ??I read all books on Andrea Yates and followed the trial and she was indeed seriously, seriously mentally ill and yes insane. She called the police immediately when she killed her children and did not even comprehend she would go to jail for good because she was so insane. There is no comparison at all. Casey lied and lied and covered up what she obviously knew what she knew would get her in trouble. You really need to not generalize these cases and see the differences in them through research and much more careful consideration,.

[mu8shark]

Casey Anthony case: Lee tells lawyers that he believes his sister
posted by halboedeker on Feb 27, 2009 6:11:35 PM


"Lee Anthony in the hot seat," WESH-Channel 2 anchor Jim Payne said.

That hot seat received heavy attention on Friday newscasts as stations replayed his videotaped deposition in Zenaida Gonzalez's defamation suit against his sister, Casey Anthony.

WESH's Bob Kealing described the questions as probing and said they extended to the criminal case against Casey, who is charged with daughter Caylee's murder.

Gonzalez attorney John Morgan asked if Lee Anthony believed his sister when she said a babysitter named Zenaida Gonzalez had taken the toddler.

"To this day, I believe everything that my sister tells me," Lee Anthony said.

But WFTV-Channel 9's Kathi Belich noted that Lee had told Casey's friends and Orange County investigators that his sister is a liar.

Gonzalez's lawyers questioned him for three and a half hours, and he repeatedly declined to answer whether he believed Casey was involved in her toddler's death.

"Zenaida's attorneys asked Lee point blank whether he believed Casey killed Caylee," Belich said. "He would not answer. But Zenaida's lawyers are going to take that issue to a judge."

Gonzalez's lawyers say the answers are critical to exonerating their client, Belich said.

Lee Anthony said he never heard Gonzalez's name before Casey's arrest and that this Zenaida Gonzalez did not match Casey's description of the babysitter who took Caylee, Kealing reported.

"I'm very happy that he was able to point to me and say, 'It was not that Zenaida Gonzalez,' " Gonzalez told reporters.

WKMG-Channel 6's Adam Longo reported that Gonzalez wanted to hear the same thing from Cindy Anthony, Casey's mother.

Longo also reported that Lee Anthony had told his lawyer not to try to block the release of the taped deposition. Longo said Lee's position was: "Don't fight it. This tape is going to get out eventually. It might as well be today."

In one of the most intriguing moments, which Belich highlighted, Lee Anthony said he could figure out what had happened if he had 15 minutes alone with his sister.

What do you think of that?

http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2009/02/casey-anthony-case--12.htmlDoes it strike anyone else as kind of contradictory that Lee says he has never heard of the nanny
or a woman named Zenaida before the kidnapping and yet he believes every word of Caseys story? How does that work? Why wouldn't someone ask her at that point right after the supposed revealing of the kidnapping, What nanny? What lady named Zenaida? When the hell did you get a nanny and how do you pay for her? It is like Casey can pull any old thing out of her ass and the family buys it hook, line and sinker. And on his testimony that Caylee called Casey on the 15th boy is this going to bite her in the butt, because I guarantee you they are going to be able to prove Caylee was dead by then. And again where are those phone records? I loved the story about Zanny getting Caseys passsword and my spacing her. Casey was trying to cover some of her computer tracks but Zenaida still had to break into the house and do all those searches? I tell ya, I am so done with this whole lying, scheming, bsing family. I know you all will think I am horrible, but I have zero sympathy for them until they at least try to tell the truth and stop covering for the skanky liar.

[lighthousedazy]

Loretta. . . Supposedly, Zenaida "was going to teach Casey a lesson." Can you believe this chit?! Well, how come there are no cell records of The Liar driving all over to Hellmart, etc. to "keep her family" from being killed. GMAFB!
Yeah, that stuff about the Dragon Room (when he's laughing like CA was "too slippery" for him to catch!!). I just about puked . . .:flamemad:
Lee is definitely drunk on Casey Koolaid (I think Mike Brooks used this one tonight!).Lee showed that he is as disillusioned as the rest of them and as much a liar as the rest of his family. jmo

[mu8shark]

Oh and by the way Lee's laughing to me is very very bizarre, I don't buy the nervous tic story. I think this family is just plain weird.

[mu8shark]

Gotta love Lee's bizarre laughter!

Mwahhah...If someone's got your child, heeheeehee! you are f-ing, har, well going to do what they say, hahaha! Jeeezus, this was the weirdest place ever for him to go on a laughing rant. I just thought it was so weird and guess what Lee most people go to the police. I can't think of hardly any cases where parents keep it quiet and then go out and party and go on spending sprees and worse than that get Beautiful Life tattoos. Even if she was hiding it or whatever she wants us to believe, what the hell would be beautiful about anybodys life when their child was missing? If they were a concerned, frightened, grieving, caring person they would be in such a negative frame of mind, I can't fathom the jury is going to understand that tattoo.

[mu8shark]

Well gator all i can say is this is prolly one of the sickest family dynamics that i have witnessed in a really long time. Your prolly right after that memorial display-what the hay was that??? Still trying to wrap my head around that one. MOO I love it that you guys call Lee the moaner! LOL. My cousin just saw that particular clip where he kisses his watch and all that and she said, " My God, my god, i mean how weird." And I told her, I told you about that, and she said, "Yeah but I could not conceive of how weird it was till I saw it with my own eyes, who acts like that?" LOL.

[javahog]

Since I try to say something nice about someone every day (getting to be a stretch these days), at least Lee has enough of a sense of reality to know he would likely be deposed even if he fought it and went ahead and did it today. And he didn;t fight the release of the tape. At least he is not out doctor-shopping tonight like Cindy probably is. He sucked it up and got it over with. so :beer: to Lee, in spite of, well, all of it...

[javahog]

Jeeezus, this was the weirdest place ever for him to go on a laughing rant. I just thought it was so weird and guess what Lee most people go to the police. I can't think of hardly any cases where parents keep it quiet and then go out and party and go on spending sprees and worse than that get Beautiful Life tattoos. Even if she was hiding it or whatever she wants us to believe, what the hell would be beautiful about anybodys life when their child was missing? If they were a concerned, frightened, grieving, caring person they would be in such a negative frame of mind, I can't fathom the jury is going to understand that tattoo.

"You work too hard, Casey! You need to learn to enjoy your life! Your beautiful life. Kick off your shoes (and panties) from time to time and, just, live! You can't have Caylee back until I see some serious hedonism, now!"

[mu8shark]

Since I try to say something nice about someone every day (getting to be a stretch these days), at least Lee has enough of a sense of reality to know he would likely be deposed even if he fought it and went ahead and did it today. And he didn;t fight the release of the tape. At least he is not out doctor-shopping tonight like Cindy probably is. He sucked it up and got it over with. so :beer: to Lee, in spite of, well, all of it... I agree they should just get it over with. I mean what is so hard about saying I believe everything Casey says.

[mu8shark]

"You work too hard, Casey! You need to learn to enjoy your life! Your beautiful life. Kick off your shoes (and panties) from time to time and, just, live! You can't have Caylee back until I see some serious hedonism, now!"LOL so you think her story will be that Zanny instructed her to get that tattoo. All I can tell ya is that is one tough babysitter who threatens to kill everyone Casey knows.... pfttt...

[javahog]

I agree they should just get it over with. I mean what is so hard about saying I believe everything Casey says.

ain't that the truth! just watch NG a couple of nights to refresh your memory and dive in! seems like this is all "family secret" stuff to them.

[javahog]

LOL so you think her story will be that Zanny instructed her to get that tattoo. All I can tell ya is that is one tough babysitter who threatens to kill everyone Casey knows.... pfttt...

Casey really should have given her a tip at Christmas. Manners matter, lol!

[lighthousedazy]

Oh and by the way Lee's laughing to me is very very bizarre, I don't buy the nervous tic story. I think this family is just plain weird.I agree. When my Grandma died, I was upset and I did try to inject some humor into our conversations.She left it in her will, that she wanted a Christian burial. I told my sister and brother that I wanted to be cremated. My mom thought this was horrible and this just struck me as humorous.

[javahog]

She's going to try for a multiple personalities insanity defense, isn't she? It's the only thing that makes sense with her refusing to recant the Zani story.

Multiple personality resulting from sexual abuse (already set up), "Zani" had ben starting to turn up, but the fight with Cindy triggered her, Bad!Zani decided Casey wasn't fit, and killed Caylee, not Casey.

[javahog]

'Night, Mu, LHD, etc! :seeya:

[lighthousedazy]

'Night, Mu, LHD, etc! :seeya:

Goodnight Java.

[mu8shark]

'Night, Mu, LHD, etc! :seeya:
Night, I am going to bed too!

[Native Alien]

In my personal opinion the whole thing was just sad. I hope that Mallory has the good sense to run as far away, as fast as she can from this bunch of twisted and mentally sick people.

I sit and watched all but about 20 minutes of the deposition and I was sick at my stomach for most of it. To think that a 26 year old man publicly embarrasses and humiliates himself like Lee did. I would have thought that he would have known better.

To Mr. Morgan, I must say that I am impressed. Very impressed. The way that you made it seem like you were apologizing for having to ask the hard questions, that just blew me away.

[Gatordog]

Lee showed that he is as disillusioned as the rest of them and as much a liar as the rest of his family. jmo

I would love to have had Judge Judy do the questioning in the deposition. The smiles and laughter would have lasted 30 seconds. Once she would have caught him in the first illogical statement, he'd have been toast.

gator

[mandi3020]

She's going to try for a multiple personalities insanity defense, isn't she? It's the only thing that makes sense with her refusing to recant the Zani story.

Multiple personality resulting from sexual abuse (already set up), "Zani" had ben starting to turn up, but the fight with Cindy triggered her, Bad!Zani decided Casey wasn't fit, and killed Caylee, not Casey.

You know, I had not thought of this, but I think you may be right. Casey is really "Zani," an alternate personality:rolleyes: . She just needs a little more time (which she's getting in the pokey) to get the details straight before she has a "break through," moment and pulls this out of her arse.

I can't even watch the video of Lee's depo, I've tried, believe me, but then I start to hear smooching noises and have flashbacks of him lip-smacking his wrists at Caylee's memorial and moaning CMA, CMA, CMA....Doesn't this young man have any self-respect at all?

I've said it before, as many other's here have said too......Caylee didn't stand chance with the family she was born into.

[Gatordog]

Using Jay Blanchard Park as the location for a beat-down and kidnapping is ridiculous. As a lot of you know, I live just down the street from the park. This park is not a woods. There are two soccer fields, a basketball court, tennis courts, a YMCA, a bicycle path, a canoe rental and two children's playgrounds. School ends in May. This was June, so the park had to be busy.

If this activity did happen in the park, why isn't Bozo Baez going out to the public to ask anyone who was in the park that day and witnessed this assault and subsequent kidnapping to come forward? Or at least if you saw Zenaida in the park, oh wait that won't work because the Liar took photographs of everything and everyone, yet she doesn't have one pic of the woman she's known for four or two years; so, we don't know what ZFG looks like.

gator

[eatcupcakes]

Using Jay Blanchard Park as the location for a beat-down and kidnapping is ridiculous. As a lot of you know, I live just down the street from the park. This park is not a woods. There are two soccer fields, a basketball court, tennis courts, a YMCA, a bicycle path, a canoe rental and two children's playgrounds. School ends in May. This was June, so the park had to be busy.

If this activity did happen in the park, why isn't Bozo Baez going out to the public to ask anyone who was in the park that day and witnessed this assault and subsequent kidnapping to come forward? Or at least if you saw Zenaida in the park, oh wait that won't work because the Liar took photographs of everything and everyone, yet she doesn't have one pic of the woman she's known for four or two years; so, we don't know what ZFG looks like.

gator

I was sure you had been to this park and thanks for describing it for us. I have a question for anyone who might have the answer. ZFG is taking Caylee to teach KC a lesson, what was the lesson she was teaching her. Also since I did not hear that ZFG was armed with a weapon at the time of the kidnapping why didn't the Liar just grab her child back and leave. How can someone steal your child in broad daylight with you looking right at her and talking to her and she was not armed. This makes NO SENSE. How can Lee believe any of this, he is making himself look like a fool to the whole country. What a CROCK OF CHIT.

[DrewBerry]

I was sure you had been to this park and thanks for describing it for us. I have a question for anyone who might have the answer. ZFG is taking Caylee to teach KC a lesson, what was the lesson she was teaching her. Also since I did not hear that ZFG was armed with a weapon at the time of the kidnapping why didn't the Liar just grab her child back and leave. How can someone steal your child in broad daylight with you looking right at her and talking to her and she was not armed. This makes NO SENSE. How can Lee believe any of this, he is making himself look like a fool to the whole country. What a CROCK OF CHIT.

CROCK of chit alright. I've been reading thru everyone's posts re: Lee's deposition. I am comforted to know we are all thinking the same thing. He looks like and sounds like a complete a-hole. Does he really think even the average citizen is going to buy any of his lies?

Yeah, and what [I]exactly is the lesson Zenaida wanted to teach his sister?
GMAFB!! I think Lee just sunk his sister's defense. If Bozo isn't in the hospital yet, he will be soon. I hope this family and their attorneys get what they deserve.

[javahog]

Are yours in a knot? I thought you were a male.

Anyway, speaking of panties, Lee seemed to be pooping his when they asked him if he thinks his sister killed Caylee.

Also, I noticed his demeanor was far from what grief looks like. If he believes everything his sister tells him, then he must believe everything she tells others and she told others that he molested her.

I know why Lee said he believed Casey even though we know he does not!

If he believed Casey and was all on ZFG, then she cannot prove malice. He was acting in good faith, IF he believed his sister. That means HE cannot be named as a defendant. His lawyer told him to do that, and also to state that THIS ZFG is not THAT ZFG.

Lee is covering his tookus and leaving it on Casey and his parents to cover theirs.

[javahog]

Just to whine...WHAT IS WRONG WITH THIS TRANSCRIPTION???!!!

How does "text messages" become "Text he is marriages?" (Unless Lee has some really new code talk going on!) Or, "I've asked repeatedly" becomes "I've asked Lee peedly" lol!

[kksback]

Are yours in a knot? I thought you were a male.

Anyway, speaking of panties, Lee seemed to be pooping his when they asked him if he thinks his sister killed Caylee.

Also, I noticed his demeanor was far from what grief looks like. If he believes everything his sister tells him, then he must believe everything she tells others and she told others that he molested her.

Wow, did not know CA has accused Lee of molesting her. I also had no idea you could watch or read the depo. I'm shocked at what I'm reading. I 'thought' Lee was doing the right thing, but he believes his sis?! May I ask where you're reading the depo?TIA

[javahog]

Wow, did not know CA has accused Lee of molesting her. I also had no idea you could watch or read the depo. I'm shocked at what I'm reading. I 'thought' Lee was doing the right thing, but he believes his sis?! May I ask where you're reading the depo?TIA

Try this for reading: http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/Stories/Local/Lee%20Anthony%20Depo.pdf

If you go back a page or two, someone posted the video links...

[javahog]

Bravo Jav!!!! I know you just pinned him to the wall right here in your post. God love this board! Of course that's what he was doing. He's playing Nick the boob,,, whew! Brilliant! That's the only thing that makes sense. Otherwise he'd have to be committed as one who is severly mentally challenged.

Thank you! It came to me as I rolled out of bed this morning (why do I let these people into my head?) The contradiction finally made sense to me.

You want a laugh? Lee says he hates Padilla on page 110! (well, he says he "lates" him...but I'm guessing:))

[javahog]

Aww, this is funny, on page 127 Lee says Jose Baez never told them that the jail conversations were taped and could be released. He never told them not to have those conversations. What a brainiac of a lawyer!

[javahog]

Has anyone heard before that Jose Baez asked People magazine for $500,000 for an exclusive? (pg 139)

[kksback]

Try this for reading: http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/Stories/Local/Lee%20Anthony%20Depo.pdf

If you go back a page or two, someone posted the video links...

Well, I got to where lee said "to this day i believe everything my sister tells me" and i quit. That gave me a headache. That's really all I need to know. I THOUGHT Lee had finally come to his senses, I was terribly mistaken. He's knows Casey is a proven liar...sorry, but lee must be an idiot to say that.:shrug:

He can love his sis and support her without making a fool of himself, IMO.

[javahog]

Another question to throw out: on page 147 Lee says he made a promise to Caylee (per the memorial) to "find out the truth" "early in July".

If he didn't know she was missing until the 15th of July, why would he make this promise "early" in July?

Fishy.

[javahog]

Well, I got to where lee said "to this day i believe everything my sister tells me" and i quit. That gave me a headache. That's really all I need to know. I THOUGHT Lee had finally come to his senses, I was terribly mistaken. He's knows Casey is a proven liar...sorry, but lee must be an idiot to say that.:shrug:

He can love his sis and support her without making a fool of himself, IMO.

Check out my post like 5 back...I think Lee is saying that to prevent himself from being charged in Zenaida's lawsuit...he totally knows she's a big fat liar, imo. But he doesn't want his wages garnished, lol!

By the way, welcome to the board!

[kksback]

Check out my post like 5 back...I think Lee is saying that to prevent himself from being charged in Zenaida's lawsuit...he totally knows she's a big fat liar, imo. But he doesn't want his wages garnished, lol!

By the way, welcome to the board!

I did read it and I completely agree. I'ts the only reason that makes sense, even though it makes him look like a fool. He's under oath, right? I guess that means nothing to these ppl....Also, didn't Cindy say on the stand, at CA 1st court hearing...that she had talked to Zanny on the phone? So, I wonder if she will lie under oath also. Cindy will either lie under oath and make up a conversation with Zanny, or she will risk charges for lying under oath. She's in a pickle, no wonder she doesn't want to do the Depo.

And thanx for the welcome! I was here years ago, but got so disgusted I had my internet service cut off..lol..this place seems alot better organized now.:seeya:

[javahog]

I did read it and I completely agree. I'ts the only reason that makes sense, even though it makes him look like a fool. He's under oath, right? I guess that means nothing to these ppl....Also, didn't Cindy say on the stand, at CA 1st court hearing...that she had talked to Zanny on the phone? So, I wonder if she will lie under oath also. Cindy will either lie under oath and make up a conversation with Zanny, or she will risk charges for lying under oath. She's in a pickle, no wonder she doesn't want to do the Depo.

And thanx for the welcome! I was here years ago, but got so disgusted I had my internet service cut off..lol..this place seems alot better organized now.:seeya:

Yeah, under oath! I think he trusted his plan of "complete trust" and that's why he went ahead with the deposition. But what I don't get...when my mom was deposed for something, she was told to answer yes, no, I don't know, or I don't remember. no elaboration. But here Lee was yap yap yap...

I bet Jose is getting another ulcer as we type ( did he really try to get 500K from People mag?! And note Lee did not deny Casey got money, he parsed his wording very carefully.)

[kksback]

Yeah, under oath! I think he trusted his plan of "complete trust" and that's why he went ahead with the deposition. But what I don't get...when my mom was deposed for something, she was told to answer yes, no, I don't know, or I don't remember. no elaboration. But here Lee was yap yap yap...

I bet Jose is getting another ulcer as we type ( did he really try to get 500K from People mag?! And note Lee did not deny Casey got money, he parsed his wording very carefully.)

They told him to answer yes or no..he says... 'um uh' or something like that. have you noticed how many "YA knows" he's says??
Jose needs to step aside but i don't think another lawyer wants to touch this case. So many ppl hate babykillers, especially in Florida where they've had so many..I bet that whole family trys to get $$ for ANYTHING they do. I've tried not to judge them on it since the media has been stupid enough to pay thus far...but the whole idea of making $$ off of this poor little girl is just sickening, IMO.

[javahog]

They told him to answer yes or no..he says... 'um uh' or something like that. have you noticed how many "YA knows" he's says??
Jose needs to step aside but i don't think another lawyer wants to touch this case. So many ppl hate babykillers, especially in Florida where they've had so many..I bet that whole family trys to get $$ for ANYTHING they do. I've tried not to judge them on it since the media has been stupid enough to pay thus far...but the whole idea of making $$ off of this poor little girl is just sickening, IMO.

I agree. Its one thing to get money to pay for billboards and flyers while a child is missing, but hogging on the cash to pay for the defense? No way. Use a public defender if your greedy lawyer won't do it pro bono, imo.

[javahog]

She'd be better off with a PD. Her lawyer is bustin a sag.

I was about to say even a new lawyer would be better, but stopped myself since that's what she has!

[mu8shark]

Using Jay Blanchard Park as the location for a beat-down and kidnapping is ridiculous. As a lot of you know, I live just down the street from the park. This park is not a woods. There are two soccer fields, a basketball court, tennis courts, a YMCA, a bicycle path, a canoe rental and two children's playgrounds. School ends in May. This was June, so the park had to be busy.

If this activity did happen in the park, why isn't Bozo Baez going out to the public to ask anyone who was in the park that day and witnessed this assault and subsequent kidnapping to come forward? Or at least if you saw Zenaida in the park, oh wait that won't work because the Liar took photographs of everything and everyone, yet she doesn't have one pic of the woman she's known for four or two years; so, we don't know what ZFG looks like.

gatorGreat inside info Gator. It is great to have someone who knows the area and how the park is. There are several parks around where I live. In one I could believe something like that could happen and no one would see it because it is kind of like cleared wilderness and it is huge. In others like the ones you mention where there are soccer fields and playgrounds, really on a nice day there would be no way. I did notice that in Lee's version nobody held Casey down, they just tugged on her arm and she stood there in shock and watched Zenaida walk away. I think this version is purposeful for the reason you are pointing to. If there was a commotion and a woman was being held down someone would surely notice. If her arm was just being tugged and she stood there the defense will say there was no real incident that would have people staring so no one noticed. But you know why hasn't Baez or Cindy or some of the family early on ask if anyone was at Blanchard Park on such and such date please contact the police. Um because it is BS. LOL. I hope they stick with the nanny story because it is so lame.

[wind149]

I can't wait to hear Cindy run her mouth, she will have to do this depo at some point whether she wants to or not. Morgan is a shrewd man, he will wrangle some element of truth out of these master liars, and I just love it when Lee claims that the Zenaida is not the Zanny the Nanny, well since LE was never able to find anyone else by that name in that area, how do these morons still sing that tune??? I can't wait for the DA to tear these people up, and Lee? He has no regard for the law anymore than his skank sister, he lied under oath, he thought the whole thing was a lark and his mama coached him and I love the part where Morgan says to him that there is belief in your sister and then there is you have to, and Lee says he has to? What do you all make of that statement? My mommy is holding a sword over my head??? If he actually spoke the truth which we all know he didn't, he might have brought forth some justice for his niece but they all have been forsaking her for Casey, shows me they did not love that little girl at all, they are selling her out and that circus of a memorial service was a sham so Cindy can soak up more of the attention SHE CRAVES, but yet, she won't help clear the name of a woman she ran her mouth about on every network, and ran her through the mud, and I have a feeling that the judge is going to be on ZFG because he already knows these people are accomplished liars.

[mu8shark]

Another question to throw out: on page 147 Lee says he made a promise to Caylee (per the memorial) to "find out the truth" "early in July".

If he didn't know she was missing until the 15th of July, why would he make this promise "early" in July?

Fishy.
Um excuse me Mr liar Lee but this is a great question for you. I mean didn't Casey say she told no one that Caylee was missing, so why did he make a promise in early July???. Good thinking Java.

[mu8shark]

I can't wait to hear Cindy run her mouth, she will have to do this depo at some point whether she wants to or not. Morgan is a shrewd man, he will wrangle some element of truth out of these master liars, and I just love it when Lee claims that the Zenaida is not the Zanny the Nanny, well since LE was never able to find anyone else by that name in that area, how do these morons still sing that tune??? I can't wait for the DA to tear these people up, and Lee? He has no regard for the law anymore than his skank sister, he lied under oath, he thought the whole thing was a lark and his mama coached him and I love the part where Morgan says to him that there is belief in your sister and then there is you have to, and Lee says he has to? What do you all make of that statement? My mommy is holding a sword over my head??? If he actually spoke the truth which we all know he didn't, he might have brought forth some justice for his niece but they all have been forsaking her for Casey, shows me they did not love that little girl at all, they are selling her out and that circus of a memorial service was a sham so Cindy can soak up more of the attention SHE CRAVES, but yet, she won't help clear the name of a woman she ran her mouth about on every network, and ran her through the mud, and I have a feeling that the judge is going to be on ZFG because he already knows these people are accomplished liars.Is it he has to because the other scenario is too unthinkable or is that the controller (Cindy) has told him how to testify.? I can see Cindy telling both George and Lee to toe the line.

[mu8shark]

Bravo Jav!!!! I know you just pinned him to the wall right here in your post. God love this board! Of course that's what he was doing. He's playing Nick the boob,,, whew! Brilliant! That's the only thing that makes sense. Otherwise he'd have to be committed as one who is severly mentally challenged.This whole family covers their asses all the time. Maybe that is actually what CMA means, Cover My Ass! I think Loretta joked about that earlier!

[javahog]

Great inside info Gator. It is great to have someone who knows the area and how the park is. There are several parks around where I live. In one I could believe something like that could happen and no one would see it because it is kind of like cleared wilderness and it is huge. In others like the ones you mention where there are soccer fields and playgrounds, really on a nice day there would be no way. I did notice that in Lee's version nobody held Casey down, they just tugged on her arm and she stood there in shock and watched Zenaida walk away. I think this version is purposeful for the reason you are pointing to. If there was a commotion and a woman was being held down someone would surely notice. If her arm was just being tugged and she stood there the defense will say there was no real incident that would have people staring so no one noticed. But you know why hasn't Baez or Cindy or some of the family early on ask if anyone was at Blanchard Park on such and such date please contact the police. Um because it is BS. LOL. I hope they stick with the nanny story because it is so lame.

I think Casey and Jose have hitched their wagon to that star for sure! Let the good times roll!

[mu8shark]

I was sure you had been to this park and thanks for describing it for us. I have a question for anyone who might have the answer. ZFG is taking Caylee to teach KC a lesson, what was the lesson she was teaching her. Also since I did not hear that ZFG was armed with a weapon at the time of the kidnapping why didn't the Liar just grab her child back and leave. How can someone steal your child in broad daylight with you looking right at her and talking to her and she was not armed. This makes NO SENSE. How can Lee believe any of this, he is making himself look like a fool to the whole country. What a CROCK OF CHIT.Oh she pulled on her arm so that made Casey too stunned!!! I know it is absurd to think you would not say to her,"Oh no you are not taking my child and kick her in the shins or tussle with her or something. I mean, if she had a gun or knife then it makes more sense but because she tugged on her arm or whatever. No way would any mother just let her walk away. Zenaida weighs 120 pounds according to the description I heard Conway give so it is not like she is some strong sumo wrestling woman. Any one of us could take her, but Casey was too stunned because it was surreal.... right. The only surreal thing is this BS story,

[mu8shark]

Hi mu! :seeya:

Remember when they had the July date wrong as to when she moved out and they had to be corrected about the what day Father's Day fell on? They don't do too well with dates.Hey Dan! I think if they would tell the truth they would not have such trouble with dates. My Dad used to say, a lie keeps changing but the truth stays the same.

[javahog]

Oh she pulled on her arm so that made Casey too stunned!!! I know it is absurd to think you would not say to her,"Oh no you are not taking my child and kick her in the shins or tussle with her or something. I mean, if she had a gun or knife then it makes more sense but because she tugged on her arm or whatever. No way would any mother just let her walk away. Zenaida weighs 120 pounds according to the description I heard Conway give so it is not like she is some strong sumo wrestling woman. Any one of us could take her, but Casey was too stunned because it was surreal.... right. The only surreal thing is this BS story,

Dumas, she should have claimed Zani did the chloroform searches in her name and then chloroformed her. When she came to, Caylee was gone and Zani gave her instructions. "She touched me! I was to shocked to defend my child!"

Try selling that to a jury who would lift a car off their kids if they had to.

[javahog]

Hey Dan! I think if they would tell the truth they would not have such trouble with dates. My Dad used to say, a lie keeps changing but the truth stays the same.

But their problem with dates does support my wormhole theory. A problem with the space-time continuum would totally explain why they seem to be from a parallel universe.

[javahog]

I get the impression they are all playing the grief card. I think his statement, "I have to" is his way of saying he wouldn't endure the alternative. IOW if he believed she killed Caylee, he'd die. So he has to believe that she did not.

To play devils advocate for a minute; This case has gotten 2 people from one family removed from their lives. It's not that unusual to lose more then one loved one. Some people are grieving three, four and even five due to plane crashes, war casualties, fires, murders, etc.. okay. The Anthony's are not going to give in to these loses gracefully. They were screwed up before this happened. They are going down with the ship. They haven't even begun to grieve Caylee. As was obvious in Lee's behavior yesterday. THe laughing was way out there.

ITA she is a skank and she got them all with one bullet. I'd venture to say she's in her ever lovin glory right now. All four will perish because they just paid too damn much attention to a little girl. That'll learn um.

Oh, I completely agree with that! Like they weren't messed up before, they will end this completely destroyed.

[One2Snoop]

I did read it and I completely agree. I'ts the only reason that makes sense, even though it makes him look like a fool. He's under oath, right? I guess that means nothing to these ppl....Also, didn't Cindy say on the stand, at CA 1st court hearing...that she had talked to Zanny on the phone? So, I wonder if she will lie under oath also. Cindy will either lie under oath and make up a conversation with Zanny, or she will risk charges for lying under oath. She's in a pickle, no wonder she doesn't want to do the Depo.

And thanx for the welcome! I was here years ago, but got so disgusted I had my internet service cut off..lol..this place seems alot better organized now.:seeya:

We also have new management and I'm certain thats why its better. Welcome back kksback. :beer:

[kksback]

We also have new management and I'm certain thats why its better. Welcome back kksback. :beer:

Thanx so much! Now if I just knew who was who...lol..:read:

One thing...It takes me 3-5 minutes to do every little bitty thing here. I rebooted my puter, but it's still the same. Is that the norm? TIA!

[lorettalockhorn]

Very much looking forward to C's depo-I think it will be very telling. I saw alot of nose/nostril scratching from Lee???? I hope to have the time tomorrow to watch the whole thing without interuption.

George's and Cindy's answers will be interesting. And I wonder if they will be the same, or the same as Lee's.

[One2Snoop]

Thanx so much! Now if I just knew who was who...lol..:read:

One thing...It takes me 3-5 minutes to do every little bitty thing here. I rebooted my puter, but it's still the same. Is that the norm? TIA!

There's been some issues with the site the past few days. I wasn't able to access for over 2 hours last night and Thursday night it was at least 45 minutes. I get timed out alot to. Not sure whats going on but I've pm'd the admin about it.

Anyone else having issues like that? :shrug:

[kksback]

You'll figure it all out soon. Sometimes we're norm. I'm nawny. I drink a lot of coffee, and since I spilled it on the keyboard one morning, and had to cave and buy a new Dell, I use a sippy cup now. This is a good machine and when I learn how to use it correctly, I'll be golden. ;)


I need some coffee to keep me awake while the pages load..

I sat a nice little candle next to my nice big Sony flat screen a few weeks ago...now it has a big melted dent in it. I'm learning to live with it.:o

[shadydaisy]

There's been some issues with the site the past few days. I wasn't able to access for over 2 hours last night and Thursday night it was at least 45 minutes. I get timed out alot to. Not sure whats going on but I've pm'd the admin about it.

Anyone else having issues like that? :shrug:

Dial up, DSL or cable? I think you may want to start by cleaning your cookies and your history. Sometimes when you have too many accumulated it can take a really long time to upload, which is why you are getting timed out.

If your computer is not the problem, it's your server not providing enough bytes for you to upload. They could have been experiencing difficulty....

[One2Snoop]

Dial up, DSL or cable? I think you may want to start by cleaning your cookies and your history. Sometimes when you have too many accumulated it can take a really long time to upload, which is why you are getting timed out.

If your computer is not the problem, it's your server not providing enough bytes for you to upload. They could have been experiencing difficulty....


Super duper dsl. I eat my cookies everynight before I go to bed. :tongue:

[lorettalockhorn]

Well if the same i guess we will know it was all rehearsed. Not like they have not had the time for family meetings with C as the CEO of the finger family now. I know me bad-could not resist lol. What i would really like to know is which version is it they believe of the Nanny story? 1 or 2?

WHAT?! Has Casey been usurped? They're All Thumbs if you ask me. :hat:

I wouldn't doubt that they rehearse all the time. I still think the jailhouse visits (the ones released early on) were choreographed knowing that Casey would soon be arrested.

[lorettalockhorn]

Super duper dsl. I eat my cookies everynight before I go to bed. :tongue:

http://i43.tinypic.com/2moscv4.jpg

COOKIE!!!!!!!!!

Man, I don't even have regular DSL, but when I started using Mozilla Firefox instead of IE it made a big difference. I did have problems with CL's server last night, but today seems to be okie dokey so far.

[kksback]

Welcome KK-sorry to hear about your Sony! I get alot of lag when i go to links
other than that no probs here but then i have not had alot of time here as of late.

Thanx bee! I have restarted twice, cleaned out my cookies, files..and it is still taking the pages forever to load. I'm (shhhhhhh)(pmsyso I want to just melt the other side of this puter!

[kksback]

Well if the same i guess we will know it was all rehearsed. Not like they have not had the time for family meetings with C as the CEO of the finger family now. I know me bad-could not resist lol. What i would really like to know is which version is it they believe of the Nanny story? 1 or 2?


LOL....I can tell we all agree on this case. I think they will stick to the park story. Everyone should pick a story and lets see who's right.

[javahog]

LOL....I can tell we all agree on this case. I think they will stick to the park story. Everyone should pick a story and lets see who's right.

We could do a Casey's defense cyber-pool!

I want to call some form of multiple personality...but Jose said she's not crazy, so :shrug:

[Tamarrow]

I need some coffee to keep me awake while the pages load..

I sat a nice little candle next to my nice big Sony flat screen a few weeks ago...now it has a big melted dent in it. I'm learning to live with it.:o

Oh no!! Sorry to hear about your flat screen.. I didn't know that would happen, moving candle now. :shrug:

[One2Snoop]

BOMBSHELL NEWS!

Do you guys remember when LP did the search at Jay Blanchard Park and there was a run in with the Anthony's? A group of people who supposedly were there to help search included an admin from Websleuths by the name of Windchime. This news broke a few days ago but it appears she's a convicted sex offender! :eek: The following was sent to me earlier today....

Dear Websleuths Members, It was with great shock and dismay that we learned today that our Moderator Windchime was convicted of child sexual abuse in 1992. I want to assure you that no one on our staff knew about this until today. Windchime has been removed from Websleuths. Please understand we work strictly on a volunteer basis. We choose our moderators and administrators based on their performance on Websleuths. I will be talking with our lawyers to see about the legal aspect of requiring all Websleuths volunteers to submit to a full criminal background check to make sure this does not happen again. We do our best at Websleuths to offer you a comfortable place to post and to become involved all free of charge. We are not perfect however but we will continue to do our best. Thank you for your time. Sincerely, Tricia Griffith

You can also read and find additional documentation at this site...

http://beaconhell.com/blog/?p=626

Disgusting! :flamemad: :no: :flamemad:

[lorettalockhorn]

BOMBSHELL NEWS!

Do you guys remember when LP did the search at Jay Blanchard Park and there was a run in with the Anthony's? A group of people who supposedly were there to help search included an admin from Websleuths by the name of Windchime. This news broke a few days ago but it appears she's a convicted sex offender! :eek: The following was sent to me earlier today....



You can also read and find additional documentation at this site...

http://beaconhell.com/blog/?p=626

Disgusting! :flamemad: :no: :flamemad:

Um gee, I hate to slam Tricia. (Well no, I don't.) Why doesn't she do background checks on her people already considering admins have access to IP addys and other information?

Seems like there have been rumors about Windchime in the past.

[javahog]

BOMBSHELL NEWS!

Do you guys remember when LP did the search at Jay Blanchard Park and there was a run in with the Anthony's? A group of people who supposedly were there to help search included an admin from Websleuths by the name of Windchime. This news broke a few days ago but it appears she's a convicted sex offender! :eek: The following was sent to me earlier today....



You can also read and find additional documentation at this site...

http://beaconhell.com/blog/?p=626

Disgusting! :flamemad: :no: :flamemad:

WOW!

I had just read today that some of their posters think they know so much about the Caylee Anthony case they should be deposed. Maybe so, but more likely for the stuff that went on with THIS! This is so amazingly gross. And the comments-people are being threatened! And this is why people should be cautious on the internets...lots of nutballs in hiding out there.

Umm, except for me. I'm not a nutball.

[javahog]

Um gee, I hate to slam Tricia. (Well no, I don't.) Why doesn't she do background checks on her people already considering admins have access to IP addys and other information?

Seems like there have been rumors about Windchime in the past.

I totally agree. I worked at a museum, and we had volunteers who had access to mailing lists and stuff, so even the ones who would not have contact with kids had a background check. There is no excuse for this. And if someone is now threatening people, couldn't WS be liable?

And Casey thinks no one will know what she did with her computer stuff! ha!

[kksback]

Oh no!! Sorry to hear about your flat screen.. I didn't know that would happen, moving candle now. :shrug:

Yep. I keep a glass of wine on one side (which I spilled everywhere..) and a candle on the other. Both have been moved.

And about Windchime?! Horrific!:flamemad: but then it's the only good thing to come out in this case. At least she's exposed. If anyone knows her kick her @ss.

[kksback]

WOW!

I had just read today that some of their posters think they know so much about the Caylee Anthony case they should be deposed. Maybe so, but more likely for the stuff that went on with THIS! This is so amazingly gross. And the comments-people are being threatened! And this is why people should be cautious on the internets...lots of nutballs in hiding out there.

Umm, except for me. I'm not a nutball.

You're telling me! No, I'm tellin you! And you said the magic word...."THINK"


All of us are nutballs except you & me..and I'm not so sure about you.:chicken:

[lorettalockhorn]

WOW!

I had just read today that some of their posters think they know so much about the Caylee Anthony case they should be deposed. Maybe so, but more likely for the stuff that went on with THIS! This is so amazingly gross. And the comments-people are being threatened! And this is why people should be cautious on the internets...lots of nutballs in hiding out there.

Umm, except for me. I'm not a nutball.

You're not a nutball, but many of the WSers are. They have first hand information? Huh uh. Didn't think so. Would they flove to interject themselves into this case? Uh huh. I think so.

[kksback]

You're telling me! No, I'm tellin you! And you said the magic word...."THINK"


All of us are nutballs except you & me..and I'm not so sure about you.:chicken:
I meant to say them...not us...them....if I 'quote' I have to stare at an hourglass for a full 3 minutes. UGH.

[kksback]

You're not a nutball, but many of the WSers are. They have first hand information? Huh uh. Didn't think so. Would they flove to interject themselves into this case? Uh huh. I think so.

Had to quote this, it's well worth the 3 minute stare. Couldn't agree with you more. Deserves a drink.:beer:

[shadydaisy]

I just finished reading Lee's deposition. Honestly, is there anything about this case that falls cleanly into place. I don't case what the defense wants you to say, at some point I'd be spilling exactly what I knew and what I thought. The charade is driving me nuts?

OK who is Windchime?

[One2Snoop]

I just finished reading Lee's deposition. Honestly, is there anything about this case that falls cleanly into place. I don't case what the defense wants you to say, at some point I'd be spilling exactly what I knew and what I thought. The charade is driving me nuts?

OK who is Windchime?


LP did the search at Jay Blanchard Park and there was a run in with the Anthony's. A group of people who supposedly were there to help search included an admin from Websleuths by the name of Windchime.

[javahog]

You're not a nutball, but many of the WSers are. They have first hand information? Huh uh. Didn't think so. Would they flove to interject themselves into this case? Uh huh. I think so.

No claims to first hand information were made. It was even better than that. Their powers of observation and research are so much better than LE they could guide them through depositions to the truth. Why depositions, I don't know, but nothing of it made sense anyway...they should use the phone and call and be mocked if they want to get involved in that which does not concern them, imo.

How can people see the truth of Casey, but not the ICK! within their own midst. Yeah. Credible.

[Zingo]

I read most of the transcript.

I have zero respect for any of the Anthony's anymore. They continued to sell Casey's horse manure long after they HAD to have known none of it was remotely close to the truth.

ZFG's attorney is trying to establish the point that the Anthony's did not go public with the Blanchard Park (plan charred park ... LOL) story because a) they knew it sounded so ridiculous it automatically implicated Casey, and b) because it would make her look even more like a lying murderer.

So, they continued to let the Sawgrass story ride in the public eye ...

Sawgrass = THIS Zenaida

[lorettalockhorn]

No claims to first hand information were made. It was even better than that. Their powers of observation and research are so much better than LE they could guide them through depositions to the truth. Why depositions, I don't know, but nothing of it made sense anyway...they should use the phone and call and be mocked if they want to get involved in that which does not concern them, imo.

How can people see the truth of Casey, but not the ICK! within their own midst. Yeah. Credible.

You would think that the sloths, er uh sleuths would know that depositions are to gather information from actual parties to the case. :punch:

[javahog]

I read most of the transcript.

I have zero respect for any of the Anthony's anymore. They continued to sell Casey's horse manure long after they HAD to have known none of it was remotely close to the truth.

ZFG's attorney is trying to establish the point that the Anthony's did not go public with the Blanchard Park (plan charred park ... LOL) story because a) they knew it sounded so ridiculous it automatically implicated Casey, and b) because it would make her look even more like a lying murderer.

So, they continued to let the Sawgrass story ride in the public eye ...

Sawgrass = THIS Zenaida

Yeah, that transcript is some good STAUFVES, huh? Though I really think those keys should stay with the football, it would make a good read more lick lie.

I was just seeing Sarah Palin on tv and thought it's been a while since I saw Zingo, lol!

[javahog]

Yep. I keep a glass of wine on one side (which I spilled everywhere..) and a candle on the other. Both have been moved.

And about Windchime?! Horrific!:flamemad: but then it's the only good thing to come out in this case. At least she's exposed. If anyone knows her kick her @ss.

No don't! It would leave bruises the police would have to photograph, and based on the posted record, she might like that! :eek::chicken:

[lorettalockhorn]

Yeah, that transcript is some good STAUFVES, huh? Though I really think those keys should stay with the football, it would make a good read more lick lie.

I was just seeing Sarah Palin on tv and thought it's been a while since I saw Zingo, lol!

HAH! Sarah Palin made the syndicated NYT XWP today and I thought of Zingo too! :hat:

[One2Snoop]

You would think that the sloths, er uh sleuths would know that depositions are to gather information from actual parties to the case. :punch:

LMAO! - replace the o with u remove the h and what da ya git? :beer:

[javahog]

Umm, do we need to take this to the "anything else" board before we have 3 invisible pages again?

[kksback]

You are cracking me up girls. Now I don't feel so bad about spilling coffee.. LOL! We now have a pyromaniac spilling hagnog and she's got a melty monitor.

:)


:read:
Huh? I need another glass of wine! WTH is a hagnog? am I supposed to be insulted??

[SaraSidle]

Here's what I think...

Lee had more than enough time to figure all this out while Casey was out on bail - soooooooo Lee what gives? :shrug:

I have been thinking the same thing O2S. the only reason I think they may not have talked if they thought the house was bugged but they still could have written notes. very disturbing to me. sara

[One2Snoop]

Huh? I need another glass of wine! WTH is a hagnog? am I supposed to be insulted??

LOL - no. It's the groups nickname for spiked punch, right ladies? :beer:

[SaraSidle]

I merely answered your question. I would've just not responded if I knew it was gonna send a massive wave of panties in a knot. lol.

Nice talk. I hope the rest of the posters here put you on ignore......sara

[javahog]

LOL - no. It's the groups nickname for spiked punch, right ladies? :beer:

I think it is the bitter brew of unexpressable outrage...bottom's up!:beer:

[kksback]

OMG...it's now taking forever minutes to go from one page to another! Is someone messin with me? From the old days? I had time to change clothes, marinate steaks and kiss my husband and dog. WTF?

[javahog]

OMG...it's now taking forever minutes to go from one page to another! Is someone messin with me? From the old days? I had time to change clothes, marinate steaks and kiss my husband and dog. WTF?

Oh, no! The phantom pages are back.

OK, when we were apparently naughty, posts got deleted way back, and it looked like we had 2-3 more pages than were really there. Yesterday, the problem disappeared and I was happy. But now its back. So I guess a small number of posts disappeared again. (Though not the ones I wish would disappear, lol!)

So, you just have to keep trying if you think you are close to a new page. aaargh.

[SaraSidle]

Welcome back kk.. I know what you mean about the Internet flame wars and trolls. Things on message boards and newsgroups can get horrible. I left the boards also back during the Holloway case. Some of those posters literally scared me. When I cam here to read a few months ago I was cautiously optimistic because this place seemed *normal* and very intelligent people were posting. It took me a while to trust, but I found things very good here after all.

It's like being around a kitchen table chatting with good friends. The only problem is, we drink the haterade and the hagnog and very late at night say awful things about the rotten, murdering SOB's and I love that part the best. :-)

No one here is into flame wars. It's a stupid way to get frustrations out. Not one person here threatened to defame my grandmother or my aunt Louise.. ;-)

Enjoy! There is a wealth of information here.

Try the Anything you want to talk about- board. Its fun.:seeya:

well I do not think anyone here is normal LOL I agree that there is a wealth of information here and posters with great hearts and minds trying to help. what could be better than that???? sara

[kksback]

Well then...bottoms up! Now I don't have beer with a quick reply. I'll learn my way around...drunk, melted, whatever..

[kksback]

Quick reply works a little better....Damn keep me out of trouble.(Clanking beers)

[SaraSidle]

There's been some issues with the site the past few days. I wasn't able to access for over 2 hours last night and Thursday night it was at least 45 minutes. I get timed out alot to. Not sure whats going on but I've pm'd the admin about it.

Anyone else having issues like that? :shrug:

Not me O2S but then I am not logged on enough.

[One2Snoop]

Oh, no! The phantom pages are back.

OK, when we were apparently naughty, posts got deleted way back, and it looked like we had 2-3 more pages than were really there. Yesterday, the problem disappeared and I was happy. But now its back. So I guess a small number of posts disappeared again. (Though not the ones I wish would disappear, lol!)

So, you just have to keep trying if you think you are close to a new page. aaargh.

That problem was fixed last night. I see the right number of pages. :shrug:

[kksback]

Danagher...did I thank you for welcoming me back? I can't get to the post you left me.

THANK YOU. (Looking like I know who you are)

[One2Snoop]

Quick reply works a little better....Damn keep me out of trouble.(Clanking beers)

you can hand type the code in like this - I'm putting a space so you can see how to type it out...

:b eer:

[One2Snoop]

I think it is the bitter brew of unexpressable outrage...bottom's up!:beer:

LOL that too! :beer:

[One2Snoop]

Shadydaisy if you're still here - here's some additional background info on Windchime and the situation.....

Convicted Child Molestor Exposed — WindChime from WebSleuths
27Feb2009 Filed under: Uncategorized Author: Lisha

BeaconHell members have unearthed some astonishing news today. A longstanding member of the WebSleuths community apparently has a record for child molestation. And she’s not only a regular member, she’s been part of their admin team for a very long time....

http://scribblemuse.com/?p=14

[SaraSidle]

Shadydaisy if you're still here - here's some additional background info on Windchime and the situation.....

Convicted Child Molestor Exposed — WindChime from WebSleuths
27Feb2009 Filed under: Uncategorized Author: Lisha

BeaconHell members have unearthed some astonishing news today. A longstanding member of the WebSleuths community apparently has a record for child molestation. And she’s not only a regular member, she’s been part of their admin team for a very long time....

http://scribblemuse.com/?p=14

this is so strange and scarey O2S. I am glad I have listened to you. thanks sara

[javahog]

I think I'll call it a night. I'm kind of creeped out by the WS news...I've lurked there. Windchime has seen my isp. I feel technologically violated...so I'm off to dinner and a bottle of http://i37.tinypic.com/280pi5x.jpg to dull the irritation.

[lorettalockhorn]

I think I'll call it a night. I'm kind of creeped out by the WS news...I've lurked there. Windchime has seen my isp. I feel technologically violated...so I'm off to dinner and a bottle of http://i37.tinypic.com/280pi5x.jpg to dull the irritation.

hehehe Is that Hagnog or Haterade?

Sweet dreams. :tongue:

[DrewBerry]

I can't wait to hear Cindy run her mouth, she will have to do this depo at some point whether she wants to or not. Morgan is a shrewd man, he will wrangle some element of truth out of these master liars, and I just love it when Lee claims that the Zenaida is not the Zanny the Nanny, well since LE was never able to find anyone else by that name in that area, how do these morons still sing that tune??? I can't wait for the DA to tear these people up, and Lee? He has no regard for the law anymore than his skank sister, he lied under oath, he thought the whole thing was a lark and his mama coached him and I love the part where Morgan says to him that there is belief in your sister and then there is you have to, and Lee says he has to? What do you all make of that statement? My mommy is holding a sword over my head??? If he actually spoke the truth which we all know he didn't, he might have brought forth some justice for his niece but they all have been forsaking her for Casey, shows me they did not love that little girl at all, they are selling her out and that circus of a memorial service was a sham so Cindy can soak up more of the attention SHE CRAVES, but yet, she won't help clear the name of a woman she ran her mouth about on every network, and ran her through the mud, and I have a feeling that the judge is going to be on ZFG because he already knows these people are accomplished liars.

Can't wait to hear Cindy's deposition. How is she going to lie her way out of this one? How is she going to point fingers at ZFG? You know she coached Liar-Lee. His "performance" in court was as we anticipated---another circus. And you're right about Cindy craving attention. Gawd, I hate this family!:flamemad:

[One2Snoop]

I think I'll call it a night. I'm kind of creeped out by the WS news...I've lurked there. Windchime has seen my isp. I feel technologically violated...so I'm off to dinner and a bottle of http://i37.tinypic.com/280pi5x.jpg to dull the irritation.

That looks more like a 60 gallon barrel! :eek: I wouldn't lose any sleep over the windbag LOL, she's not worth it. Hope to see you around tomorrow. ;)

[sharlock]

That looks more like a 60 gallon barrel! :eek: I wouldn't lose any sleep over the windbag LOL, she's not worth it. Hope to see you around tomorrow. ;)
Hey guys:seeya: I was shocked about windchime but I was ven more shocked after I read the charges she plead guilty to so I started a thread on it to share the info. I have only started watching Lee's testimony and in the first few minutes he seemed to say things that didn't add up. Unbelievable!

[kksback]

you can hand type the code in like this - I'm putting a space so you can see how to type it out...

:b eer:
Wow, thanx. I had no idea you could do the beer one like that.

:beer:

[kksback]

LOL!! Look at you! You have Post Traumatic Stress Syndrome from the other boards.. No, don't be insulted. We're not going to hurt you honey. I know how you feel.

Hagnog is a good thing. It's our drink. We use it when we go after the bad people. It makes our fingers drunk, then we type. When we see a troll, we go blind. They don't like this board and don't stay too long because nobody bites the bait here.

Drink up, the house is buying! :beer:
Ah..you're a sweetie. I should have drank a GALLON of that stuff last night. Post Dramatic Stress Syndrome, sounds like something I may be inflicted with and I took the bait!:(........And Yes, headachy because of that blasted wine. Coffee and Goody powders should do the trick.

I'm going to TRY and finish looking at Lee's depo this morning, even though it's killen me. I just can't stand this family because of the way they LIE. I can just see Cindy preachin to Lee about what to say, while George watches with his hand over his heart, and I bet Cindy was the 1st to read/watch it.

At Casey's very 1st court date, back in July, did anybody hear Cindy testify under oath that she had talked to Zanny over the phone??

[kksback]

The post-partum thing may be true. Cindy should testify about how Casey did not want her baby and had even found someone to adopt her. Then Cindy made Casey keep the baby. After Caylee was born, it seems to me that even though they had spoiled Casey rotten and made her think the world revolved around her, she started to berate Casey for the type of mother she was.
Cindy would throw Casey under the bus in front of ppl for not working, not taking care of Caylee...she would complain about how SHE had to do everything, forgetting that she's the one that forced Casey to keep Caylee.
Caylee would be alive if Cindy had let Casey make her own decision, IMO.

This is IN NO WAY taking up for that murdering mother.

[SaraSidle]

Ah..you're a sweetie. I should have drank a GALLON of that stuff last night. Post Dramatic Stress Syndrome, sounds like something I may be inflicted with and I took the bait!:(........And Yes, headachy because of that blasted wine. Coffee and Goody powders should do the trick.

I'm going to TRY and finish looking at Lee's depo this morning, even though it's killen me. I just can't stand this family because of the way they LIE. I can just see Cindy preachin to Lee about what to say, while George watches with his hand over his heart, and I bet Cindy was the 1st to read/watch it.

At Casey's very 1st court date, back in July, did anybody hear Cindy testify under oath that she had talked to Zanny over the phone??

What are goody Powders??

[kksback]

What are goody Powders??
They come in powder form..and it has Acetaminophen, Aspirin and Caffeine in them. They work wonders for headaches, IMO.

[kksback]

Exactly. It is very very rare that a woman is held fully accountable under the law when they murder. They hold a ton of cards which can be played to either get off or a lesser conviction. It's absolutely mind boggling because we all know that if the father murdered her....he'd get death without a blink of the eye. imo:shrug:
I have to agree with you. Now there is that rare instance when a woman gets what she deserves..but it's like this Windchime fiasco. This woman did horrible things and got away with it, IMO. The man was sent to prison for a good while. I can't understand it.

[One2Snoop]

Exactly. It is very very rare that a woman is held fully accountable under the law when they murder. They hold a ton of cards which can be played to either get off or a lesser conviction. It's absolutely mind boggling because we all know that if the father murdered her....he'd get death without a blink of the eye. imo:shrug:

Yes we all know how you feel Toskala. You say the same damn thing in every post. Got anything else you want to discuss about the ANTHONY CASE besides how women have it way easier than men? Sheesssh give it a rest already. It's Sunday. :punch:

[One2Snoop]

I have to agree with you. Now there is that rare instance when a woman gets what she deserves..but it's like this Windchime fiasco. This woman did horrible things and got away with it, IMO. The man was sent to prison for a good while. I can't understand it.

Don't take the Toskala bait please.

Thanks! :seeya:

[One2Snoop]

Easy for you to say. You would rather deny it like most women and retain the status quo. imo.

If you can't stay on topic then I'm going to put in a request to the mod to have your post deleted.

[kksback]

Hey Sara-good to see ya here again. Having said that-not addressing this to u but the post partum thing has been kicked around and it wont fly-post partum does not show up almost 3 years later. If it were to last 3 years something would have happened long before and Liar looked like and from all accounts was having the life of Riley. It's a moot point. MOO
Hey Bee~ you're right. She wouldn't have it for 3 years...didn't Casey tell a few friends after Caylee was born that she felt like she needed to be in an institution? I read that Cindy talked her out of it both times. I just wonder if Cindy had stuck her butt into a hospital if Caylee would be alive today. I guess there's no way of knowing.
IMO, there's no doubt Casey didn't need nor want a baby. I think it will be proven in court she didn't want her baby from the very start. Didn't she even deny she was preggers until she was 7 months?

[kksback]

Ugh. I'm starting to have the same problems I did last night. It's taking forever to load a page, every page. It aggravated the dickens out of me last night and contributed to my mood. I don't want to get mad again...I've eat my cookies and don't know what else to do.

[Woostock]

O2S
Yikes, you are right. Obsessive compulsive.....that would drive me crazy!!!
When I see the name I skip right over the response....that's how I deal with it. But in all seriousness, doesn't seem normal to me to keep that up. Imagine having to live with someone who does that.

[lorettalockhorn]

:) Loretta can you tell me again what the difference is between haterade and hagnog. I think I drink them both, but I wasn't sure when it was appropriate to drink the hagnog. I mean, like, does it go better with fish or beef?

I am a hag, but I need to know when to nog. :hat:
I do know either one is a great night cap... Baileys is my hagnog of choice. Wine is headache city!

I think Haterade and Hagnog might be interchangeable. But you've got to be careful; we've seen the dangers of drunk posting! Do people still do that red with meat and fish and white with fowl? We must be tres gauche here at Chez Lockhorn.

[lorettalockhorn]

The post-partum thing may be true. Cindy should testify about how Casey did not want her baby and had even found someone to adopt her. Then Cindy made Casey keep the baby. After Caylee was born, it seems to me that even though they had spoiled Casey rotten and made her think the world revolved around her, she started to berate Casey for the type of mother she was.
Cindy would throw Casey under the bus in front of ppl for not working, not taking care of Caylee...she would complain about how SHE had to do everything, forgetting that she's the one that forced Casey to keep Caylee.
Caylee would be alive if Cindy had let Casey make her own decision, IMO.

This is IN NO WAY taking up for that murdering mother.

If you've read about PPD, you must know that it's not going to work. Baez will be laughed out of the courtroom. (Not that he won't be laughed out of the courtroom anyway.)

[lorettalockhorn]

I agree i dont think she wanted Caylee either-but then i do believe she figured out that Caylee was leverage for her-attention at first then a meal ticket that kept her with a roof over her head. Then it got really old really fast. In my opine she is a socio and no hospital stint would have helped a great deal. She was enabled for so long it would be too little too late. As i said MOO. Someone-how do we put someone on ignore? He is scaring me.

Too bad G&C didn't pack her off to the state hospital, they could have used it against her to possibly help gain custody.

[SaraSidle]

They come in powder form..and it has Acetaminophen, Aspirin and Caffeine in them. They work wonders for headaches, IMO.

Cool thanks. I think I need them after Nancy Grace. sara

[SaraSidle]

Good Job on the PC Beem Gotta do what we have to sara

[DrewBerry]

Hey Sara-good to see ya here again. Having said that-not addressing this to u but the post partum thing has been kicked around and it wont fly-post partum does not show up almost 3 years later. If it were to last 3 years something would have happened long before and Liar looked like and from all accounts was having the life of Riley. It's a moot point. MOO

ITA, Beem. PPD won't fly at all. The Liar certainly doesn't look like she's suffering from PPD while out dancing and partying with her "friends."

[One2Snoop]

Do whatever makes you happy. I feel like I'm entitled to my opinion too.

You sure are. You're more than welcome to start a thread in the "Open Discussion Forum" and post the same thing over and over again to your hearts content.

http://boards.library.trutv.com/forumdisplay.php?f=436

Iggy is good my friends. :seeya:

[One2Snoop]

Ugh. I'm starting to have the same problems I did last night. It's taking forever to load a page, every page. It aggravated the dickens out of me last night and contributed to my mood. I don't want to get mad again...I've eat my cookies and don't know what else to do.

Thats what i had to do also and it did improve-however i still get lag here. Not that pc savy. LOL

I'm still having problems but not like I had the past few nights. I put in a request to admin last night. She responded this AM and said she'd have tech check into it.

[One2Snoop]

Hey Sara-good to see ya here again. Having said that-not addressing this to u but the post partum thing has been kicked around and it wont fly-post partum does not show up almost 3 years later. If it were to last 3 years something would have happened long before and Liar looked like and from all accounts was having the life of Riley. It's a moot point. MOO

ITA! :beer: The party pictures tell it all! IMO

[lorettalockhorn]

You sure are. You're more than welcome to start a thread in the "Open Discussion Forum" and post the same thing over and over again to your hearts content.

http://boards.library.trutv.com/forumdisplay.php?f=436

Iggy is good my friends. :seeya:

I think the key to Toskala's post is that he "feels entitled". :rolleyes:

[One2Snoop]

eeeee :eek: Danagher can you star a few of those letters out of that last word LOL. :seeya:

[SaraSidle]

Loretta I think Toskala just is freaked out and obsessed about the female gender. I find it interesting that he is posting here with such a large group of female posters. talk about your baiter. Just my opinion though. he must be really really bored maybe. I am ignoring.........IMO sara


nice post Danagher

[SaraSidle]

IA! If she's got PPD, then I do too and I haven't had a baby in 32 years. So I threw a frying pan last week, now I have an excuse. ;)

She's got more than PPD, she's got no heart and no conscience. She's got the DP hovering over her shoulder too. There is no way on this earth she walks. Notta chance. I don't care what her gender is, she's history. Even her spirit is history. Unless of course, they find zanny in the park living in a tree house. LOL!

I really wished I had seen that(frying pan toss). ITA with your post. I cannot wait to have this trial over and justice done. IMO sara

[One2Snoop]

Another slow news day. I've checked for updates this weekend - nothing out there. Did anyone ever hear anything else about the document dump that was supposed to take place this past week?

[lorettalockhorn]

IA! If she's got PPD, then I do too and I haven't had a baby in 32 years. So I threw a frying pan last week, now I have an excuse. ;)

She's got more than PPD, she's got no heart and no conscience. She's got the DP hovering over her shoulder too. There is no way on this earth she walks. Notta chance. I don't care what her gender is, she's history. Even her spirit is history. Unless of course, they find zanny in the park living in a tree house. LOL!

Speaking of Zani in the park, wonder if the Ants' ace investigators still have the folks who were moving Caylee around under surveillance. :rolleyes: That's going to be interesting when it comes up at trial or in a deposition.

[lorettalockhorn]

Another slow news day. I've checked for updates this weekend - nothing out there. Did anyone ever hear anything else about the document dump that was supposed to take place this past week?

Nope, not even word that Jose's been rushed to the ER.

[lorettalockhorn]

Loretta! Thank you. :) rotfl!!!

http://i38.tinypic.com/qs70hf.jpg

http://i37.tinypic.com/fto7sj.jpgTum te tum tum TUMS!http://i40.tinypic.com/90sfis.jpg

[lorettalockhorn]

She must have been on some good hallucinatory drugs the day she told Lee that batch of poop. These people are giving the Prosecution team a barrel of candy.

Oh, but not just Casey; George said that their people had people under surveillance. I'd love to see the results if/when The State asks for proof of what their people were actually surveilling.

[One2Snoop]

Nope, not even word that Jose's been rushed to the ER.

http://i38.tinypic.com/qs70hf.jpg

http://i37.tinypic.com/fto7sj.jpgTum te tum tum TUMS!http://i40.tinypic.com/90sfis.jpg

LOL! :beer:

[lorettalockhorn]

Oh! I didn't know George said that. (I missed that one) These folks are not very good at lies. Now a good liar worth his/her salt would prepare for those who don't take statements at face value.

I know a couple of five year old's that would cover their behinds better. I'm not mentioning any weeble's names. ;)

Aww we love your little ones! And we know they're smart as whips!

And http://i40.tinypic.com/90sfis.jpgWeebles wobble, but they don't fall down. http://i40.tinypic.com/90sfis.jpg

http://i9.tinypic.com/48r5p4k.jpg

[wind149]

Is Web Slueths the one that used to be the Court TV board? If so, I find it hilarious that they ban me for speaking my mind about Couey and they have a sex offender in their midst!!! You know when I was on CT TV board, I suspected there were SO's on there, they were way more than sympathetic towards SO's, one wanted to send Couey cookies because she thought he was just a "misunderstood person" Her handle was "crimewriter" and she irked the piss out of me, she liked to be the baiter, she thought I was a blood thirsty vigilante out to MURDER poor misunderstood creatures like Couey .But she wasn't the only one, there was a guy who I KNOW was a SO, How he worded his posts, how upset he was when Smith and Couey got the DP, how he thought people who are disgusted and horrified by SO's are too opinionated and that we should feel for them because they were abused as kids, so therefore, they are not responsible for kidnapping, raping, and murdering Jessie and Carlie. Can you see now why I would never go on that board again? I like this one just fine, at least, here you can be yourself, we agree to disagree without spilling blood, and best yet, no sex offenders!!! Smart, articulate, intelligent folks post here, people who live in the real world, that board, not so much. So it does not surprise me that there are bona fide sex offenders on that board, it has now been confirmed.

[lorettalockhorn]

Is Web Slueths the one that used to be the Court TV board? If so, I find it hilarious that they ban me for speaking my mind about Couey and they have a sex offender in their midst!!! You know when I was on CT TV board, I suspected there were SO's on there, they were way more than sympathetic towards SO's, one wanted to send Couey cookies because she thought he was just a "misunderstood person" Her handle was "crimewriter" and she irked the piss out of me, she liked to be the baiter, she thought I was a blood thirsty vigilante out to MURDER poor misunderstood creatures like Couey .But she wasn't the only one, there was a guy who I KNOW was a SO, How he worded his posts, how upset he was when Smith and Couey got the DP, how he thought people who are disgusted and horrified by SO's are too opinionated and that we should feel for them because they were abused as kids, so therefore, they are not responsible for kidnapping, raping, and murdering Jessie and Carlie. Can you see now why I would never go on that board again? I like this one just fine, at least, here you can be yourself, we agree to disagree without spilling blood, and best yet, no sex offenders!!! Smart, articulate, intelligent folks post here, people who live in the real world, that board, not so much. So it does not surprise me that there are bona fide sex offenders on that board, it has now been confirmed.

I don't think WS has ever been associated with CTV, but I could be wrong. Is it In Sessions that you're thinking of maybe?

I'd be willing to bet that SOs hang out on message boards just to hear their handiwork discussed and described in horror, and I've had some pretty hinky feelings about a couple of posters here from time to time. You just get a weird vibe from questions that are poorly worded or the way some subjects are broached.

There are several things off about Web Sleuths, and that Trisha doesn't bother to sleuth out her admin team is one of them. Then again, CL used to have a major phony over here. Major.

[One2Snoop]

I don't think WS has ever been associated with CTV, but I could be wrong. Is it In Sessions that you're thinking of maybe?

I'd be willing to bet that SOs hang out on message boards just to hear their handiwork discussed and described in horror, and I've had some pretty hinky feelings about a couple of posters here from time to time. You just get a weird vibe from questions that are poorly worded or the way some subjects are broached.

There are several things off about Web Sleuths, and that Trisha doesn't bother to sleuth out her admin team is one of them. Then again, CL used to have a major phony over here. Major.


I'll agree with that.

Hey Wind :seeya: CTV is aka Insessions. Never associated with WS. Turner TV owns Insessions and CrimeLibrary. They also have a TrueTV message board for the reality shows.

[kksback]

There were some conflicting stories about Casey's mothering. I remember Jesse Grund , her ex boyfriend saying she was a good mother and liked to stay at home and watch movies etc.. then she changed. He said there two Casey's and he doesn't know what happened that made her change. Then of course there were reports from Cindy about how she was a wonderful mother... Now, we have her in jail for the murder of her kid. Than again, you're right about how she found someone to adopt and the hidden pregnancy. So it's a big cluster Fk. What is the truth? Who knows?

I'm amazed that Cindy was supposedly so close to the child and yet she didn't know about zanny, so where was Casey taking her while she was working her no job? Why didn't Cindy oversee those missing hours, days and months? This is going to be one hell of a trial.

And for the pantie guy who thinks she is going to get off because she's a woman, it is not possible. She's gone, toast, duct tape, DNA, heart sticker, 31 days, tattoo, dirty dancing, death penalty, bye bye. No court in the land is going to permit the nonsensical answers in a real life trial. That chit only flies in Anthony la la land.

CMA is F U * * E D.
Sorry I was gone, let the hubby and a friend check out my puter.:)

I think Casey just used jesse, hell he even proposed. Jesse and his parents pampered her butt too. They've also said they babysit for her.
I've NEVER thought Casey had PDD, but did wonder if the defense would try it. They don't have much to work with. Of course, they could do what Scott Peterson's defense done...NOTHING. I'll never forget how so many posters said "Just wait till the defense gets their turn."...Then ole Geragos did nothing. I laughed my arse off.

I think Casey is/was spoiled rotten and use to getting all the attention. When Caylee was born, she wasn't the center of attention anymore. When George or Cindy had $, it went to Cayee. Casey lost alot of resources because of her little girl. I feel that Casey targeted people that filled her needs, and if she didn't need you, then piss off. I think that resentment built in Casey against Caylee for many reasons.
IMO, Casey came to the conclusion that being "one of those thousands of people that never see their children again" was who she wanted to be. Remember her saying that in her GRRRRRRRR video? She looked it up. She figured she would have all her resources back with a truckload of pity for the rest of her life. I'm just happy she's so dumb.:)

If she had a lick of ANYTHING, she'd plead guilty and not go to trial and force her whole family to look like complete fools.

[javahog]

I think the key to Toskala's post is that he "feels entitled". :rolleyes:

Why can't he just poke road kill with a stick like the rest of the guys?

[javahog]

I'll agree with that.

Hey Wind :seeya: CTV is aka Insessions. Never associated with WS. Turner TV owns Insessions and CrimeLibrary. They also have a TrueTV message board for the reality shows.

You have no idea how much that just explained to me. I used to post there. I thought this was the descendant of the Courttv board, but THAT is. To vent: I was banned for something someone else did over there, and it still torques my hide! I was a board peacemaker, for heaven's sake!

I like it here.

[Gatordog]

Great inside info Gator. It is great to have someone who knows the area and how the park is. There are several parks around where I live. In one I could believe something like that could happen and no one would see it because it is kind of like cleared wilderness and it is huge. In others like the ones you mention where there are soccer fields and playgrounds, really on a nice day there would be no way. I did notice that in Lee's version nobody held Casey down, they just tugged on her arm and she stood there in shock and watched Zenaida walk away. I think this version is purposeful for the reason you are pointing to. If there was a commotion and a woman was being held down someone would surely notice. If her arm was just being tugged and she stood there the defense will say there was no real incident that would have people staring so no one noticed. But you know why hasn't Baez or Cindy or some of the family early on ask if anyone was at Blanchard Park on such and such date please contact the police. Um because it is BS. LOL. I hope they stick with the nanny story because it is so lame.


I can't wait for Bozo Baez to say that in his opening statement. Then the prosecutor will say yes, someone forces you away from your child, she drives away with your child and you don't know when and if she will be returned, so what do you do? You go to your boyfriend's house, rent some horror dvd's and then have fool around. Oh yeah, the jury is going to understand that just fine. :rolleyes:

Gator

[One2Snoop]

You have no idea how much that just explained to me. I used to post there. I thought this was the descendant of the Courttv board, but THAT is. To vent: I was banned for something someone else did over there, and it still torques my hide! I was a board peacemaker, for heaven's sake!

I like it here.

CTV and CL used to be at the same link - they split back in early 2006. CL started a Library of sorts, had true crime writers who wrote stories etc and this is the message board for that. Those people lost their jobs 12/31/07. The Library is still there and we were told this message board would close. It was announced sometime in Jan 2008 it would remain open. There's another big mess involved but thats another story, another day.
Anyhow, here's the link to the library if anyone's interested.

http://www.trutv.com/library/crime/index.html

LOL - guess I better get back on topic before I get yelled at. :tongue:

[Justice Denied?]

I wonder if Casey will ever reveal why the Nanny needed to teach her a lesson? :rolleyes:

Thinking back, I believe it was Casey who wanted to teach Cindy a lesson - remember this?

“On the worst of worst days, remember the words spoken
Trust no one, only yourself.
With great power, comes great consequence.
What is given can be taken away.
Everyone Lies.
Everyone Dies.”

You know, I have read this a dozen times, but it just occured to me that by saying "everyone dies" Casey seems to indicate she planned to kill Cindy and George also. JMO, as always.

[kksback]

Is Web Slueths the one that used to be the Court TV board? If so, I find it hilarious that they ban me for speaking my mind about Couey and they have a sex offender in their midst!!! You know when I was on CT TV board, I suspected there were SO's on there, they were way more than sympathetic towards SO's, one wanted to send Couey cookies because she thought he was just a "misunderstood person" Her handle was "crimewriter" and she irked the piss out of me, she liked to be the baiter, she thought I was a blood thirsty vigilante out to MURDER poor misunderstood creatures like Couey .But she wasn't the only one, there was a guy who I KNOW was a SO, How he worded his posts, how upset he was when Smith and Couey got the DP, how he thought people who are disgusted and horrified by SO's are too opinionated and that we should feel for them because they were abused as kids, so therefore, they are not responsible for kidnapping, raping, and murdering Jessie and Carlie. Can you see now why I would never go on that board again? I like this one just fine, at least, here you can be yourself, we agree to disagree without spilling blood, and best yet, no sex offenders!!! Smart, articulate, intelligent folks post here, people who live in the real world, that board, not so much. So it does not surprise me that there are bona fide sex offenders on that board, it has now been confirmed.
I think WS was born out of CTV posters. IMO.

Why am I not surprised about Couey. Figures.

[Gatordog]

Um gee, I hate to slam Tricia. (Well no, I don't.) Why doesn't she do background checks on her people already considering admins have access to IP addys and other information?

Seems like there have been rumors about Windchime in the past.

If she was there, she broke Florida law. The area of the river that Padilla was searching is directly in front of the big playground. Probably 200 feet from the playground. There was one group of fou or five women who were gathered together and talking about the case. One woman had a blackberry and was showing photos and was pointing out certain people from the media within the crowd. One of the women in the group was Dakotah's grandmother.

Gator

[lorettalockhorn]

CTV and CL used to be at the same link - they split back in early 2006. CL started a Library of sorts, had true crime writers who wrote stories etc and this is the message board for that. Those people lost their jobs 12/31/07. The Library is still there and we were told this message board would close. It was announced sometime in Jan 2008 it would remain open. There's another big mess involved but thats another story, another day.
Anyhow, here's the link to the library if anyone's interested.

http://www.trutv.com/library/crime/index.html

LOL - guess I better get back on topic before I get yelled at. :tongue:

OT too: I originally signed up at CTV, but only posted there a few times, then boom a couple of months ago my username was gone. Poof. Vanished. They said there had never been a record of me. :eek: I guess not even a carbon footprint. :hat:

It's better here!

[One2Snoop]

If she was there, she broke Florida law. The area of the river that Padilla was searching is directly in front of the big playground. Probably 200 feet from the playground. There was one group of fou or five women who were gathered together and talking about the case. One woman had a blackberry and was showing photos and was pointing out certain people from the media within the crowd. One of the women in the group was Dakotah's grandmother.

Gator

remember her?

http://i44.tinypic.com/o5xf83.jpg

[DrewBerry]

Yes drewberry. Those party videos and pictures are the stuff of nightmares. To imagine this woman lost her child, or killed her, and is dancing at a club, throws my brain from side to side. It's worse than the worst movie by Alfred Hitchcock, or book by Stephen King. Like all of you, how can this be possible, i wonder. I feel sorry for the jury. They are going to see all this, and hear the atrocious lies. I hope the prosecutors are alert and ready to rip the face off every lie they ever told. If the adage about the chit hitting the fan doesn't paint the walls of that courtroom with dung, I'll be very surprised.

Someone is going to throw up during that trial. I don't expect the A's to be sitting in the audience daily like Peterson's family did. Since they haven't been to see her in jail as of late, I get the feeling they know she's guilty. Well, I always believed they knew. (From day one.)

It's March 1st. The craziest month of all. The clothes dry in the sun in the morning and the goat freezes to death at night... in March.

It's snowing.. whaaaahhhh.. big storm coming. :confused:

Hi Danagher! I loved your "CMA is F***ed" post! I cracked up!:) There are some pretty funny people here --- I've got some good company!When this case finally does get to trial, I'll be right here watching and waiting for the PPD defense!! Bozo is going down and he knows it.

PS: March 1st and I'm done with winter! No snow here but lots of cold rain!!

[Gatordog]

I have been thinking the same thing O2S. the only reason I think they may not have talked if they thought the house was bugged but they still could have written notes. very disturbing to me. sara

Hi Sara, glad to read you. I miss your theories especially about the Liar's intention to do in her parents.

Gator

[lorettalockhorn]

If she was there, she broke Florida law. The area of the river that Padilla was searching is directly in front of the big playground. Probably 200 feet from the playground. There was one group of fou or five women who were gathered together and talking about the case. One woman had a blackberry and was showing photos and was pointing out certain people from the media within the crowd. One of the women in the group was Dakotah's grandmother.

Gator

Yep, remember that scene well. Wasn't that the day that Granny Lois hooked up with Murt? UGH And now Murt supports Windchime in all this. UGH Man, I wish Padilla would renounce his association with Murt and the whole lot of those freaks.

Not sure what restrictions were put on Ms. Cavitalo, but she's not in the Florida registry for sex offenders, so she may not have been breaking the law.

You know her posting and overseeing a message board for missing and abused children strikes me as trolling (in the traditional sense of the word); not so different in a way than Casey going to missing children sites to gather information. UGH

[One2Snoop]

OT too: I originally signed up at CTV, but only posted there a few times, then boom a couple of months ago my username was gone. Poof. Vanished. They said there had never been a record of me. :eek: I guess not even a carbon footprint. :hat:

It's better here!

LOL thats because they got rid of the old software and finally upgraded to the current Vbulletin sometime in June/July time frame. They did it shortly after the site was hacked. (remember that?) I believe CW cleaned house during the conversion. People who hadn't posted since a certain date or had no posts at all.
I agree its better here! :beer:

[lorettalockhorn]

remember her?

http://i44.tinypic.com/o5xf83.jpg

Is that a PSA for the dangers meth mouth?

[One2Snoop]

Yep, remember that scene well. Wasn't that the day that Granny Lois hooked up with Murt? UGH And now Murt supports Windchime in all this. UGH Man, I wish Padilla would renounce his association with Murt and the whole lot of those freaks.

Not sure what restrictions were put on Ms. Cavitalo, but she's not in the Florida registry for sex offenders, so she may not have been breaking the law.

You know her posting and overseeing a message board for missing and abused children strikes me as trolling (in the traditional sense of the word); not so different in a way than Casey going to missing children sites to gather information. UGH

I'm not sure if it existed then. Does it go back that far?

[One2Snoop]

Is that a PSA for the dangers meth mouth?

I believe so. ROFLMAO!

[lorettalockhorn]

LOL thats because they got rid of the old software and finally upgraded to the current Vbulletin sometime in June/July time frame. They did it shortly after the site was hacked. (remember that?) I believe CW cleaned house during the conversion. People who hadn't posted since a certain date or had no posts at all.
I agree its better here! :beer:

Okay, thanks for that info; wonder if I can sign up with my old username? Probably didn't have a dozen posts in three+ years. I love the VBulletin format, especially with the particular bells and whistles that we have here! YEA CL! :beer:

[lorettalockhorn]

I'm not sure if it existed then. Does it go back that far?

I read the BH article and tried clicking on the thumbnails which didn't work, so I couldn't tell if she was ever officially labeled an offender by the court. But I did find a cached view of a criminal history report that once existed on docstocs, and it's not part of her record.

Upshot: I don't know.

[lorettalockhorn]

You know, I have read this a dozen times, but it just occured to me that by saying "everyone dies" Casey seems to indicate she planned to kill Cindy and George also. JMO, as always.

I think you could be right.

[kksback]

remember her?

http://i44.tinypic.com/o5xf83.jpg
OMG~ that's her? UGH. After reading what she did?? my eyes!

She's not registered because they didn't pass the law until a year or two after her plea.

It's bad enough to know how many are registered, but then we have to think about how many are NOT.

[kksback]

I will never forget it. That moment was classic alright and a clear cut revelation of what sociopath behavior looks like. In my day we called it being a brat. Today they call it a bunch of letters.
Just wanted to tell you that your pic looks like you've stood at my back door and taken a picture. It's beautiful.

[javahog]

You know, I have read this a dozen times, but it just occured to me that by saying "everyone dies" Casey seems to indicate she planned to kill Cindy and George also. JMO, as always.

I agree. I do not think "neck breaking" and "household weapons" were meant for Caylee.

And for anyone Old School...am I the only one who misses the rolling laughing Santa?

[wind149]

Is Terry Stripp Windchime?? If so, my God talk about looking like pure D white trash, hey wonder if she knows Ron and Crystal??? I am glad you guys pointed out which board was WS. As for sex offenders, see, you guys can pick them out too, I knew that one guy, he claimed to be a lawyer and tried to be one on the board, like Mr. Know it All, doesn't know his ass from his knee and for somebody who was a lawyer and I asked him what kind of attorney he was and he tells me that he is "kinda of a lawyer for sex offenders and rapists" Kinda of a lawyer huh? I doubt seriously this creep was ever a lawyer, me thinks he was a sex offender and I told him as much, I wanted him to prove he was a member of the bar from NY, and for awhile he stopped posting so we all figured he felt like the jig was up and we knew he was full of shat, and then he re-invented himself and now comes back as an "advocate" for sex offenders, like we could not tell it was him right? I remember when I joined these boards, there was a Richard Ramirez groupie on board and you talk about strange, she was in love with him, but claimed to be friends with his blushing bride, the whack-job Doreen, and she posted some weird s**t and DW banned her, but she tried to come back, but she was caught again, must have moved on to In Sessions, they will dig her there with all the other weirdos who post there. I will stay here, we sniff them out here!!

[One2Snoop]

I agree. I do not think "neck breaking" and "household weapons" were meant for Casey.

And for anyone Old School...am I the only one who misses the rolling laughing Santa?

You mean this one? http://i41.tinypic.com/2s0eog7.jpg

If you quote my post you can copy and save the image link for future use. :beer:

ETA- ooops sorry thats not the santa one. I'll see if I can find it.

[javahog]

How can someone have the cojones to get on tv searching for a missing or exploited child and make a spectacle of themselves knowing what kind of record they have?

[javahog]

You mean this one? http://i41.tinypic.com/2s0eog7.jpg

If you quote my post you can copy and save the image link for future use. :beer:

ETA- ooops sorry thats not the santa one. I'll see if I can find it.

Same movements, no Santa! But give him a suit and that's the one. He used to make me so happy!

[SaraSidle]

LOL!! It was just a little toss. So I have a little PPD. ;)

When I really did have PPD, who the hell knew? I thought it was just me being me. We didn't have the internet and there was no information available to the lay person about it. When I was older and I heard all this stuff about PPD, I laughed and said,, ahhhh, the answer!! I got too soon old, and too late smart.

I never killed a frying pan though. I threw a few, however. :cuss:

Oh Danagher isnt that the truth. too late for the cure. I still would love to see the toss. even if there is no damage. Heck I wonder if any insurance covers ppd yet. I understand it and I feel for the mothers who have had it but Casey????????? Not way to long. would rather put it on Cindy who made her keep Caylee. IMO...........sara