Caylee Anthony Case Discussion Only

[deacon]

Good point. I hope they are on top of it.

We will see. I just have this feeling that the "bone crusher" is going to fall on ms casey anyday now. When it does, there will be no mention of a deal. And Jose will go back to chasing ambulances. Everytime I think of him I think of the comedian with "Jose Jalepeno (sp) On a Stick. Sorry, I know that isn't nice.

[javahog]

I read on another board that some results were put out today and casey's prints were found on the stuff from the burial site.

Has anyone else heard that or did I just miss something today? I have been traveling so I may have missed it, or it is full of *bunk*

I looked around at the usual places, but saw nothing like this...doesn't mean it isn't posted elsewhere...

[mu8shark]

Come On!!!

He reads a line, looks down...reads a line, looks down...

Now, I don't know for sure, but if LE at the jail would not let an inmate use a cell phone, they are not going to allow (or be ignorant of) a laptop that's online. To do that, Liar or Beaz would have to configure the wireless to hookup to the jails network, and I'm sure the jails routers are secured, and I'm sure that they are not going to give an inmate the key! The other option would be an aircard or whatnot, and that is pretty obvious sticking out of the PCCard slot or even a USB port.

Bottom line is I don't think the jail would allow it or be oblivious to it...I totally agree and no way would Baez try something too tricky. He would need cooperation. I also agree with the poster who said Baez would probably want the public to know if his client was interested in the memorial as it would be good publicity for the ahem lol, 'grieving mother'. I completely agree that Casey is not interested however as it does not really involve only her. She is so over the whole death of her daughter. How else do you explain the Beautiful Life tattoo a few weeks after her child was ahem' taken?'

[lorettalockhorn]

I read on another board that some results were put out today and casey's prints were found on the stuff from the burial site.

Has anyone else heard that or did I just miss something today? I have been traveling so I may have missed it, or it is full of *bunk*

Haven't seen anything about that, but LP did tell NG that he heard that Casey's fingerprints were found on the duct tape.

[lorettalockhorn]

I totally agree and no way would Baez try something too tricky. He would need cooperation. I also agree with the poster who said Baez would probably want the public to know if his client was interested in the memorial as it would be good publicity for the ahem lol, 'grieving mother'. I completely agree that Casey is not interested however as it does not really involve only her. She is so over the whole death of her daughter. How else do you explain the Beautiful Life tattoo a few weeks after her child was ahem' taken?'

I think that tattoo was supposed to read: Beautiful Lie. I heard Casey's gonna sue the guy for misspelling!!

Okay, that's was low. :hat:

[deacon]

Haven't seen anything about that, but LP did tell NG that he heard that Casey's fingerprints were found on the duct tape.

If that is true, that is the "straw that broke the camel's back." Send her saddle home.(old cowboy western phrase from my childhood, means she is dead) No way could zanny or any other nanny leave casey's fingerprints on the duct tape. Remember, we are talking about the sticky side, not the outside. Hard to leave your finger prints there unless you were using the tape. Huh?

[javahog]

We will see. I just have this feeling that the "bone crusher" is going to fall on ms casey anyday now. When it does, there will be no mention of a deal. And Jose will go back to chasing ambulances. Everytime I think of him I think of the comedian with "Jose Jalepeno (sp) On a Stick. Sorry, I know that isn't nice.

Yep. The train is coming down the track. I just hope it is the Fingerprint Express.

[lighthousedazy]

I think that tattoo was supposed to read: Beautiful Lie. I heard Casey's gonna sue the guy for misspelling!!

Okay, that's was low. :hat:Good one. :D No, it's not to low for caysee. :biggrin:

[deacon]

Yep. The train is coming down the track. I just hope it is the Fingerprint Express.

What interests me is how they will explain that away.:shrug:

[javahog]

I think that tattoo was supposed to read: Beautiful Lie. I heard Casey's gonna sue the guy for misspelling!!

Okay, that's was low. :hat:

Too bad more tattoo artists aren't polyglots.

I wonder where she got the idea for that tattoo? Has anyone come out and said where it came from? Its hard for me to picture her pulling Italian out of her ***....

[javahog]

What interests me is how they will explain that away.:shrug:

A defense attorney has already thrown out an idea on NG: if she were the last person to pull off a piece of tape before the killer, her prints would be on the duct tape. BUT, when I tear duct tape, as I did today, I brace with my thumb and tear it, my fingers do not touch the sticky side that remains on the roll at all. So I wouldn't buy it. But there may be many non-handy people out there who might...

[deacon]

Too bad more tattoo artists aren't polyglots.

I wonder where she got the idea for that tattoo? Has anyone come out and said where it came from? Its hard for me to picture her pulling Italian out of her ***....

Ya know, I thought of a good reply for that one but I better not.:no:

[mu8shark]

Well lots of stuff to comment on tonight. First of all I knew it. I knew it.! Lee would try and be vague about those initials. I said last night that he was using initials in case he got criticism so he could say I was not talking about Casey,I was referring to Caylee. Now since it is both of them, he can pick and choose what looks best for him. This entire family with the exception of George and only sometimes with him, has trouble with the truth. They are really good at obfuscating. Let me correct that, they think they are good. Why can't Lee just being straightforward for f's sake? It is nuts. Secondly, this other child that is missing, mark my words if it is found that she was snatched by a pedophile, the Anthonys will try to leech onto that as some kind of connection. I can see it now. I know I sound overly suspicious and probably am being obnoxioius, but I can't help it, As much as this family has shaded the truth and sent people on wild goose chases and yet wanted to get immunity to tell the truth, I just have trouble believing anything they say. I also was thinking when Cindy said Caylee got her compassion from Casey, What part did she mean? The actually gassing of her child with chloroform , or the double bagging her child and tossing her in the woods close to home? Or was it because she was thoughtful enough to put a heart sticker on the tape and include a toy and a blankie when she threw her away like trash? What part of compassion was that I wonder? I do not believe this family will ever come around. I just don't see signs of it when they make sure and praise the lying murderess at the childs memorial. Maybe that is just old critical , cranky old lady me. LOL. As for the assertion that the judge will severely sanction the prosecution if they have not yet turned over the info on the fingerprints, how does that attorney on JVM know that they have not? Surely he does not think Jose would come out and announce that, right? Also if there is not yet a written report of it , it is not discoverable yet. I am not saying they can hide that indefinitely but DA's do use that tactic. I don/t see the judge for instance disallowing fingerprint evidence because of that anyway. It would be an extreme sanction and they are about a year away from trial, so I feel assured that the prosecution won't wait for two weeks before trial to tell the defense. I think LP may be right on that though.I keep thinking about what the People magazine reporter said that the duct tape was supposed to be very strong evidence for their case and when he ask his source were there fingerprints on that tape, the source answered, read between the lines. Now it does not make sense to say it is strong evidence for the prosecution and then the reading between the lines is no nothing is on it. I also agree they will not be able to say the fingerprints got there prior to Caylees death if it is on the sticky side of the tape. I tried to put it on this old doll I had and I don't see how you would not get it on the inside pretty far on the strip you are using on it. That will be a flimsy explanation that coupled with the other info, a jury just won't buy.

[javahog]

Ya know, I thought of a good reply for that one but I better not.:no:

No, don't go there!

[deacon]

A defense attorney has already thrown out an idea on NG: if she were the last person to pull off a piece of tape before the killer, her prints would be on the duct tape. BUT, when I tear duct tape, as I did today, I brace with my thumb and tear it, my fingers do not touch the sticky side that remains on the roll at all. So I wouldn't buy it. But there may be many non-handy people out there who might...

Ah Ha, depends where on the tape the print was. May not be so easy to explain away if it isn't on the end huh? (I wouldn't buy that stuff anyway)

[mu8shark]

If that is true, that is the "straw that broke the camel's back." Send her saddle home.(old cowboy western phrase from my childhood, means she is dead) No way could zanny or any other nanny leave casey's fingerprints on the duct tape. Remember, we are talking about the sticky side, not the outside. Hard to leave your finger prints there unless you were using the tape. Huh?Unless phantom nanny was a super spy and had sophisticated equipment called 'the fingerprinter' that CIA Mafia types use." LOL, just kidding I agree you would not be able to plant fingerprints in that fashion, you just would not.

:biggrin:

[deacon]

Well lots of stuff to comment on tonight. First of all I knew it. I knew it.! Lee would try and be vague about those initials. I said last night that he was using initials in case he got criticism so he could say I was not talking about Casey,I was referring to Caylee. Now since it is both of them, he can pick and choose what looks best for him. This entire family with the exception of George and only sometimes with him, has trouble with the truth. They are really good at obfuscating. Let me correct that, they think they are good. Why can't Lee just being straightforward for f's sake? It is nuts. Secondly, this other child that is missing, mark my words if it is found that she was snatched by a pedophile, the Anthonys will try to leech onto that as some kind of connection. I can see it now. I know I sound overly suspicious and probably am being obnoxioius, but I can't help it, As much as this family has shaded the truth and sent people on wild goose chases and yet wanted to get immunity to tell the truth, I just have trouble believing anything they say. I also was thinking when Cindy said Caylee got her compassion from Casey, What part did she mean? The actually gassing of her child with chloroform , or the double bagging her child and tossing her in the woods close to home? Or was it because she was thoughtful enough to put a heart sticker on the tape and include a toy and a blankie when she threw her away like trash? What part of compassion was that I wonder? I do not believe this family will ever come around. I just don't see signs of it when they make sure and praise the lying murderess at the childs memorial. Maybe that is just old critical , cranky old lady me. LOL. As for the assertion that the judge will severely sanction the prosecution if they have not yet turned over the info on the fingerprints, how does that attorney on JVM know that they have not? Surely he does not think Jose would come out and announce that, right? Also if there is not yet a written report of it , it is not discoverable yet. I am not saying they can hide that indefinitely but DA's do use that tactic. I don/t see the judge for instance disallowing fingerprint evidence because of that anyway. It would be an extreme sanction and they are about a year away from trial, so I feel assured that the prosecution won't wait for two weeks before trial to tell the defense. I think LP may be right on that though.I keep thinking about what the People magazine reporter said that the duct tape was supposed to be very strong evidence for their case and when he ask his source were there fingerprints on that tape, the source answered, read between the lines. Now it does not make sense to say it is strong evidence for the prosecution and then the reading between the lines is no nothing is on it. I also agree they will not be able to say the fingerprints got there prior to Caylees death if it is on the sticky side of the tape. I tried to put it on this old doll I had and I don't see how you would not get it on the inside pretty far on the strip you are using on it. That will be a flimsy explanation that coupled with the other info, a jury just won't buy.

Calm down. There is too much other evidence in this case for that story to hold water. The perp would have had to have access to casey's car and the house that Caylee wasn't in to get the material and then snatched her from where? I see where you are going but I don't think it would hold water.

[javahog]

Well lots of stuff to comment on tonight. First of all I knew it. I knew it.! Lee would try and be vague about those initials. I said last night that he was using initials in case he got criticism so he could say I was not talking about Casey,I was referring to Caylee. Now since it is both of them, he can pick and choose what looks best for him. This entire family with the exception of George and only sometimes with him, has trouble with the truth. They are really good at obfuscating. Let me correct that, they think they are good. Why can't Lee just being straightforward for f's sake? It is nuts. Secondly, this other child that is missing, mark my words if it is found that she was snatched by a pedophile, the Anthonys will try to leech onto that as some kind of connection. I can see it now. I know I sound overly suspicious and probably am being obnoxioius, but I can't help it, As much as this family has shaded the truth and sent people on wild goose chases and yet wanted to get immunity to tell the truth, I just have trouble believing anything they say. I also was thinking when Cindy said Caylee got her compassion from Casey, What part did she mean? The actually gassing of her child with chloroform , or the double bagging her child and tossing her in the woods close to home? Or was it because she was thoughtful enough to put a heart sticker on the tape and include a toy and a blankie when she threw her away like trash? What part of compassion was that I wonder? I do not believe this family will ever come around. I just don't see signs of it when they make sure and praise the lying murderess at the childs memorial. Maybe that is just old critical , cranky old lady me. LOL. As for the assertion that the judge will severely sanction the prosecution if they have not yet turned over the info on the fingerprints, how does that attorney on JVM know that they have not? Surely he does not think Jose would come out and announce that, right? Also if there is not yet a written report of it , it is not discoverable yet. I am not saying they can hide that indefinitely but DA's do use that tactic. I don/t see the judge for instance disallowing fingerprint evidence because of that anyway. It would be an extreme sanction and they are about a year away from trial, so I feel assured that the prosecution won't wait for two weeks before trial to tell the defense. I think LP may be right on that though.I keep thinking about what the People magazine reporter said that the duct tape was supposed to be very strong evidence for their case and when he ask his source were there fingerprints on that tape, the source answered, read between the lines. Now it does not make sense to say it is strong evidence for the prosecution and then the reading between the lines is no nothing is on it. I also agree they will not be able to say the fingerprints got there prior to Caylees death if it is on the sticky side of the tape. I tried to put it on this old doll I had and I don't see how you would not get it on the inside pretty far on the strip you are using on it. That will be a flimsy explanation that coupled with the other info, a jury just won't buy.

Oh no, Mu, now we are experimenting on our dolls! I think the comment about reading between the lines was a clever confirmation that there were fingerprints and therefor, "lines".

[mu8shark]

Calm down. There is too much other evidence in this case for that story to hold water. The perp would have had to have access to casey's car and the house that Caylee wasn't in to get the material and then snatched her from where? I see where you are going but I don't think it would hold water. I know I know but I just don't trust this family at all. I am not saying it would work at all but can I see Cindy throwing that out there? Yes I can. I know some think Cindy and George and Lee are not going to back Casey and may be realistic that she did it but so far I don't see anything that points to their embracing reality. Cindy in particular has told so many lies. I guess I am just one of those people who once someone starts on the lying thing over and over ,never trusts that person again. I am not saying I am a cynic or anything where I don't trust anybody of course, but Cindy has really shown her knack for bs. JMO.

[lorettalockhorn]

Well lots of stuff to comment on tonight. First of all I knew it. I knew it.! Lee would try and be vague about those initials. I said last night that he was using initials in case he got criticism so he could say I was not talking about Casey,I was referring to Caylee. Now since it is both of them, he can pick and choose what looks best for him. This entire family with the exception of George and only sometimes with him, has trouble with the truth. They are really good at obfuscating. Let me correct that, they think they are good. Why can't Lee just being straightforward for f's sake? It is nuts. Secondly, this other child that is missing, mark my words if it is found that she was snatched by a pedophile, the Anthonys will try to leech onto that as some kind of connection. I can see it now. I know I sound overly suspicious and probably am being obnoxioius, but I can't help it, As much as this family has shaded the truth and sent people on wild goose chases and yet wanted to get immunity to tell the truth, I just have trouble believing anything they say. I also was thinking when Cindy said Caylee got her compassion from Casey, What part did she mean? The actually gassing of her child with chloroform , or the double bagging her child and tossing her in the woods close to home? Or was it because she was thoughtful enough to put a heart sticker on the tape and include a toy and a blankie when she threw her away like trash? What part of compassion was that I wonder? I do not believe this family will ever come around. I just don't see signs of it when they make sure and praise the lying murderess at the childs memorial. Maybe that is just old critical , cranky old lady me. LOL. As for the assertion that the judge will severely sanction the prosecution if they have not yet turned over the info on the fingerprints, how does that attorney on JVM know that they have not? Surely he does not think Jose would come out and announce that, right? Also if there is not yet a written report of it , it is not discoverable yet. I am not saying they can hide that indefinitely but DA's do use that tactic. I don/t see the judge for instance disallowing fingerprint evidence because of that anyway. It would be an extreme sanction and they are about a year away from trial, so I feel assured that the prosecution won't wait for two weeks before trial to tell the defense. I think LP may be right on that though.I keep thinking about what the People magazine reporter said that the duct tape was supposed to be very strong evidence for their case and when he ask his source were there fingerprints on that tape, the source answered, read between the lines. Now it does not make sense to say it is strong evidence for the prosecution and then the reading between the lines is no nothing is on it. I also agree they will not be able to say the fingerprints got there prior to Caylees death if it is on the sticky side of the tape. I tried to put it on this old doll I had and I don't see how you would not get it on the inside pretty far on the strip you are using on it. That will be a flimsy explanation that coupled with the other info, a jury just won't buy.

If loving obnoxious and cranky is wrong; I don't wanna be right. :seeya:

[mu8shark]

Oh no, Mu, now we are experimenting on our dolls! I think the comment about reading between the lines was a clever confirmation that there were fingerprints and therefor, "lines".Pretty sick on the dolls . LOL I know I am macabre and sick lol but I just wanted to see and I have this old doll I dragged out and frankly it would be so hard not to leave fingeprints or just leave them on the ends. I just don't see it.

[mu8shark]

If loving obnoxious and cranky is wrong; I don't wanna be right. :seeya: LOL Loretta as always funny. I loved the Beautiful Lie tattoo theory. That is much closer to the truth I bet.

[deacon]

I know I know but I just don't trust this family at all. I am not saying it would work at all but can I see Cindy throwing that out there? Yes I can. I know some think Cindy and George and Lee are not going to back Casey and may be realistic that she did it but so far I don't see anything that points to their embracing reality. Cindy in particular has told so many lies. I guess I am just one of those people who once someone starts on the lying thing over and over ,never trusts that person again. I am not saying I am a cynic or anything where I don't trust anybody of course, but Cindy has really shown her knack for bs. JMO.

Oh, I agree she would want to go there. I am just saying that story would have about as much chance as a snowball in...... uh... July:biggrin:

[mu8shark]

Is there a thread for the Haleigh Cummings case or are we just doing it on the off topic thread? I got some comments on that.

[Zingo]

Well lots of stuff to comment on tonight. First of all I knew it. I knew it.! Lee would try and be vague about those initials. I said last night that he was using initials in case he got criticism so he could say I was not talking about Casey,I was referring to Caylee. Now since it is both of them, he can pick and choose what looks best for him. This entire family with the exception of George and only sometimes with him, has trouble with the truth. They are really good at obfuscating. Let me correct that, they think they are good. Why can't Lee just being straightforward for f's sake? It is nuts. Secondly, this other child that is missing, mark my words if it is found that she was snatched by a pedophile, the Anthonys will try to leech onto that as some kind of connection. I can see it now. I know I sound overly suspicious and probably am being obnoxioius, but I can't help it, As much as this family has shaded the truth and sent people on wild goose chases and yet wanted to get immunity to tell the truth, I just have trouble believing anything they say. I also was thinking when Cindy said Caylee got her compassion from Casey, What part did she mean? The actually gassing of her child with chloroform , or the double bagging her child and tossing her in the woods close to home? Or was it because she was thoughtful enough to put a heart sticker on the tape and include a toy and a blankie when she threw her away like trash? What part of compassion was that I wonder? I do not believe this family will ever come around. I just don't see signs of it when they make sure and praise the lying murderess at the childs memorial. Maybe that is just old critical , cranky old lady me. LOL. As for the assertion that the judge will severely sanction the prosecution if they have not yet turned over the info on the fingerprints, how does that attorney on JVM know that they have not? Surely he does not think Jose would come out and announce that, right? Also if there is not yet a written report of it , it is not discoverable yet. I am not saying they can hide that indefinitely but DA's do use that tactic. I don/t see the judge for instance disallowing fingerprint evidence because of that anyway. It would be an extreme sanction and they are about a year away from trial, so I feel assured that the prosecution won't wait for two weeks before trial to tell the defense. I think LP may be right on that though.I keep thinking about what the People magazine reporter said that the duct tape was supposed to be very strong evidence for their case and when he ask his source were there fingerprints on that tape, the source answered, read between the lines. Now it does not make sense to say it is strong evidence for the prosecution and then the reading between the lines is no nothing is on it. I also agree they will not be able to say the fingerprints got there prior to Caylees death if it is on the sticky side of the tape. I tried to put it on this old doll I had and I don't see how you would not get it on the inside pretty far on the strip you are using on it. That will be a flimsy explanation that coupled with the other info, a jury just won't buy.

LOL. Compassion means different things to different people, MU... obviously. By Cindy's definition of compassion, I think we can look at all the sociopathic killers in new light. I mean, hey, at least Casey left her daughter "close to home." :rolleyes:

[mu8shark]

Oh, I agree she would want to go there. I am just saying that story would have about as much chance as a snowball in...... uh... July:biggrin: Oh I totally agree a jury would need strong evidence to connect the cases. It would probably go the way of the cult killings in the Laci Peterson case, straight down ...... In fact if I remember right Geragos could not show a nexus or foundation so the judge said No. That would probably be what would happen here.

[lorettalockhorn]

Is there a thread for the Haleigh Cummings case or are we just doing it on the off topic thread? I got some comments on that.

Haleigh's thread:

http://boards.crimelibrary.com/showthread.php?t=292593

[deacon]

Is there a thread for the Haleigh Cummings case or are we just doing it on the off topic thread? I got some comments on that.

There is a thread under missing children. I am going back and forth. Come on over.

[lighthousedazy]

Pretty sick on the dolls . LOL I know I am macabre and sick lol but I just wanted to see and I have this old doll I dragged out and frankly it would be so hard not to leave fingeprints or just leave them on the ends. I just don't see it.I don't think anybody can touch duct tape and not leave finger prints on it. Even if she had on latex gloves that would have been one sticky and awkward mess, imo.

My thought on Cindy trying to compare the Caylee case to the Haleigh case. Haleigh's dad called 911 immediately and liar waited 31 days and if mom hadn't found her and insisted I don't think the public would know that Caylee was missing. Cummings was visibly distraught and liar was not. Cindy is insane if she thinks they are the same. jmo. I'm tired and need to read some more. :)

[mu8shark]

Just curiously since I did not see the whole memorial, did the Anthonys ever thank people for searching for Caylee at all? Or are they still mad that nobody bought the she was on a plane, she was in a restaurant, she was at the mall scenario? I am feeling particulary sarcastic tonight but I would think that might be an important part of a memorial , at least if it was me. Also was Tim Miller on the banned list?

[mu8shark]

I don't think anybody can touch duct tape and not leave finger prints on it. Even if she had on latex gloves that would have been one sticky and awkward mess, imo.

My thought on Cindy trying to compare the Caylee case to the Haleigh case. Haleigh's dad called 911 immediately and liar waited 31 days and if mom hadn't found her and insisted I don't think the public would know that Caylee was missing. Cummings was visibly distraught and liar was not. Cindy is insane if she thinks they are the same. jmo. I'm tired and need to read some more. :) I agree the cases were handled by the families in totally different ways but if someone is caught I just would not put it past Cindy to tell people publicly or otherwise "You know that guy might have taken Caylee or maybe he was in the area" or something like that. I Keep thinking back to her appearance on LKL where she said the private investigator said that everything Casey said turned out to be true and when you hear something that vividly false, it makes you wonder what won;t she try to resort to? I am sure if Cindy had read my posts I would be on the banned list by the way, LOL. Let me just state though that these death threats that people are making are way out of line.

[mu8shark]

One more thing when Marc Klaas said on NG that this family was overly dramatic, I do see what he means. I am sure he does not mean the death of a child is a mild thing but like for instance the theory that someone would try to dig up Caylee's body or steal her remains i think is over the top. There are moviestars and other famous murder cases where that has never happened. And there are lots of kooks out there. You have to wonder how one would accomplish this in a cemetery these days. You would have to get a backhoe or be out there digging and where would you sell these remains? Would People magazine be interested in photographing stolen remains? Even the Enquirer as low as it stoops would not be in the market to give money to someone who did this. Would one sell the remains on ebay? I just find this kind of an instance where I think they are indeed overly dramatic. If you put the remains in a crypt for instance you can't just break into the crypt in a jiffy. It would be pretty hard. We all follow true crime so when was the last time you heard of someones remains being stolen?

[deacon]

One more thing when Marc Klaas said on NG that this family was overly dramatic, I do see what he means. I am sure he does not mean the death of a child is a mild thing but like for instance the theory that someone would try to dig up Caylee's body or steal her remains i think is over the top. There are moviestars and other famous murder cases where that has never happened. And there are lots of kooks out there. You have to wonder how one would accomplish this in a cemetery these days. You would have to get a backhoe or be out there digging and where would you sell these remains? Would People magazine be interested in photographing stolen remains? Even the Enquirer as low as it stoops would not be in the market to give money to someone who did this. Would one sell the remains on ebay? I just find this kind of an instance where I think they are indeed overly dramatic. If you put the remains in a crypt for instance you can't just break into the crypt in a jiffy. It would be pretty hard. We all follow true crime so when was the last time you heard of someones remains being stolen?

IMO, the whole thing with someone wanting to steal the remains was cindy's need to control again. casey said she wanted her buried in a grave so she could visit and cindy said no we will do this my way. And they did. She has to have control.

[lighthousedazy]

One more thing when Marc Klaas said on NG that this family was overly dramatic, I do see what he means. I am sure he does not mean the death of a child is a mild thing but like for instance the theory that someone would try to dig up Caylee's body or steal her remains i think is over the top. There are moviestars and other famous murder cases where that has never happened. And there are lots of kooks out there. You have to wonder how one would accomplish this in a cemetery these days. You would have to get a backhoe or be out there digging and where would you sell these remains? Would People magazine be interested in photographing stolen remains? Even the Enquirer as low as it stoops would not be in the market to give money to someone who did this. Would one sell the remains on ebay? I just find this kind of an instance where I think they are indeed overly dramatic. If you put the remains in a crypt for instance you can't just break into the crypt in a jiffy. It would be pretty hard. We all follow true crime so when was the last time you heard of someones remains being stolen?
I don't recall hearing anytime and I'm in my 50's. If this were common, I think someone would have tried to get Elvis's or Marilyn Monroe's or JFK's, etc. remains. I have never seen human ashes, but I think they look similar to what you would get out of the fireplace, and I can't see anyone paying for them. jmo :eek:

[lorettalockhorn]

I never heard a release of names on the list other than LP and NG. I dont recall any thank you for searcher's. Somebody else here may have heard and i just missed it. I cant force myself to go back and review. As i said before that gawd awful lip smacking noise is forever etched in my brain. And Oh Oh the way he did it with such drama. I have to move on here as i feel fluish and the visual is making me want to hurl. Me thinks there is more to Hoover (lee) than what meets the eye. He scares me. MOO :eek:

Supposedly Tim Miller and Mark Klaas were also on the list. (& I'll assume Granny Lois from Cindy's email disinvitation.)

Didn't Lee thank "everyone"? But yeah, I don't remember any of the Ants specifically thanking searchers.

[lorettalockhorn]

One more thing when Marc Klaas said on NG that this family was overly dramatic, I do see what he means. I am sure he does not mean the death of a child is a mild thing but like for instance the theory that someone would try to dig up Caylee's body or steal her remains i think is over the top. There are moviestars and other famous murder cases where that has never happened. And there are lots of kooks out there. You have to wonder how one would accomplish this in a cemetery these days. You would have to get a backhoe or be out there digging and where would you sell these remains? Would People magazine be interested in photographing stolen remains? Even the Enquirer as low as it stoops would not be in the market to give money to someone who did this. Would one sell the remains on ebay? I just find this kind of an instance where I think they are indeed overly dramatic. If you put the remains in a crypt for instance you can't just break into the crypt in a jiffy. It would be pretty hard. We all follow true crime so when was the last time you heard of someones remains being stolen?

I can't imagine where G&C got it into their heads that someone would steal Caylee's remains. Sounds like something that they might use as an excuse for having had Caylee cremated against Casey's wishes to me. I suppose her ashes might qualify as a hot ticket item to a murderobilia nut.

[mu8shark]

Supposedly Tim Miller and Mark Klaas were also on the list. (& I'll assume Granny Lois from Cindy's email disinvitation.)

Didn't Lee thank "everyone"? But yeah, I don't remember any of the Ants specifically thanking searchers.Okay so she is mad at Tim Miller for looking for a dead Caylee instead of going with the She's alive scenario. And of course she is mad at Mark Klaas because he's way to honest and straightforward. What a sin that is in the Anthony family apparently, allegedly.! LOL.

[javahog]

One more thing when Marc Klaas said on NG that this family was overly dramatic, I do see what he means. I am sure he does not mean the death of a child is a mild thing but like for instance the theory that someone would try to dig up Caylee's body or steal her remains i think is over the top. There are moviestars and other famous murder cases where that has never happened. And there are lots of kooks out there. You have to wonder how one would accomplish this in a cemetery these days. You would have to get a backhoe or be out there digging and where would you sell these remains? Would People magazine be interested in photographing stolen remains? Even the Enquirer as low as it stoops would not be in the market to give money to someone who did this. Would one sell the remains on ebay? I just find this kind of an instance where I think they are indeed overly dramatic. If you put the remains in a crypt for instance you can't just break into the crypt in a jiffy. It would be pretty hard. We all follow true crime so when was the last time you heard of someones remains being stolen?

Abraham Lincoln was plotted to be stolen for ransom.http://home.att.net/~rjnorton/Lincoln47.html
Alastair Cooke was graverobbed: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4552742.stm

But...not gonna happen here.

[javahog]

I never heard a release of names on the list other than LP and NG. I dont recall any thank you for searcher's. Somebody else here may have heard and i just missed it. I cant force myself to go back and review. As i said before that gawd awful lip smacking noise is forever etched in my brain. And Oh Oh the way he did it with such drama. I have to move on here as i feel fluish and the visual is making me want to hurl. Me thinks there is more to Hoover (lee) than what meets the eye. He scares me. MOO :eek:

I can safely say I have never before seen a man give himself a slobbery pulse hickey while moaning his sister's initials. I hope I never see-or hear-such a thing again.

[lorettalockhorn]

Abraham Lincoln was plotted to be stolen for ransom.http://home.att.net/~rjnorton/Lincoln47.html
Alastair Cooke was graverobbed: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4552742.stm

But...not gonna happen here.

Wasn't there a Law&Order episode similar to the Alistair Cooke story? Or House or something?

[Native Alien]

I can't imagine where G&C got it into their heads that someone would steal Caylee's remains. Sounds like something that they might use as an excuse for having had Caylee cremated against Casey's wishes to me. I suppose her ashes might qualify as a hot ticket item to a murderobilia nut.

Or as someone else suggested on here they could have simply had the remains interred in a mausoleum. That would have been the simple solution.

[shadydaisy]

I can't imagine where G&C got it into their heads that someone would steal Caylee's remains. Sounds like something that they might use as an excuse for having had Caylee cremated against Casey's wishes to me. I suppose her ashes might qualify as a hot ticket item to a murderobilia nut.

Something wrong with my viewing - posts I've read and then go back to quote are missing!

Anyway, someone said they thought the ashes would look like something from a fireplace. They do and some of the ashes are really fine. On a large person you can sometimes see bits of bone that did not totally incinerate.

Since they only found Caylee's bones, we're not talking about a whole lot of ash on a small child.

[NMurphy02]

are narcissistic nutjobs. That's where they got it into their heads. I mean come on! They thought there would be all sorts of protests at the memorial too. Granted they've had some crazy things happen but that's because of their whackjob daughter. I really don't think anyone would steal Caylee's ashes. That's just plain ole paranoia talking. But then again they thought there was some sort of "threat" made to their family, which is why their !@%#$ daughter couldn't go to the police to report Cayless missing.

The whole family is nuts.

[sharlock]

Come On!!!

He reads a line, looks down...reads a line, looks down...

Now, I don't know for sure, but if LE at the jail would not let an inmate use a cell phone, they are not going to allow (or be ignorant of) a laptop that's online. To do that, Liar or Beaz would have to configure the wireless to hookup to the jails network, and I'm sure the jails routers are secured, and I'm sure that they are not going to give an inmate the key! The other option would be an aircard or whatnot, and that is pretty obvious sticking out of the PCCard slot or even a USB port.

Bottom line is I don't think the jail would allow it or be oblivious to it...
If you can make a mobile ph call and I know you can inside a jail, then you can connect to the internet on your own wireless card and do not need to go through the jails servers at all. I think JB has used this the whole time and I read somewhere the other day that the jail said they are allowing web access so it seems a given to me.

[sharlock]

I can safely say I have never before seen a man give himself a slobbery pulse hickey while moaning his sister's initials. I hope I never see-or hear-such a thing again.
Nor have I Java:eek:. BTW you should see the Anthony supporters that were posting on Topix in the Team Jesse Grund thread. They totally hijacked it and if you want to see exacly what the defense team is going to say to raise oubt then this is a good place to start. There is heaps over there and I felt really dirty and icky when I finished reading it all. :(
http://www.topix.com/forum/county/orange-fl/TH3MT60ASJLN39NVV/p83

Warning- some of this is really nasty stuff.

[sharlock]

Nor have I Java:eek:. BTW you should see the Anthony supporters that were posting on Topix in the Team Jesse Grund thread. They totally hijacked it and if you want to see exacly what the defense team is going to say to raise oubt then this is a good place to start. There is heaps over there and I felt really dirty and icky when I finished reading it all. :(
http://www.topix.com/forum/county/orange-fl/TH3MT60ASJLN39NVV/p83

Warning- some of this is really nasty stuff.
I should mention that they accuse Deb Grund of being involved becasue she worked for Universal an stuff like that. Mainly though they just make nasty comments. :chicken:

[Native Alien]

Nor have I Java:eek:. BTW you should see the Anthony supporters that were posting on Topix in the Team Jesse Grund thread. They totally hijacked it and if you want to see exacly what the defense team is going to say to raise oubt then this is a good place to start. There is heaps over there and I felt really dirty and icky when I finished reading it all. :(
http://www.topix.com/forum/county/orange-fl/TH3MT60ASJLN39NVV/p83

Warning- some of this is really nasty stuff.

That is just some sad stuff on that thread.

[javahog]

Nor have I Java:eek:. BTW you should see the Anthony supporters that were posting on Topix in the Team Jesse Grund thread. They totally hijacked it and if you want to see exacly what the defense team is going to say to raise oubt then this is a good place to start. There is heaps over there and I felt really dirty and icky when I finished reading it all. :(
http://www.topix.com/forum/county/orange-fl/TH3MT60ASJLN39NVV/p83

Warning- some of this is really nasty stuff.

Car-ra-zey!

[javahog]

Does anyone remember where the accusation came from Liar made re: G and Hoover? for innapropriate relations? Was it all rumour or was there any basis that she indeed did make such a claim. Not that i would believe anything out of her mouth.

iirc she told some friends that. It was in the (first?) doc dump if you want to hunt it. It might have been to Jesse Grund. I recall thinking that she was trying to keep people from communicating with each other. I have no doubt she would have had problems if her "spheres" converged and compared notes.

[lorettalockhorn]

Nor have I Java:eek:. BTW you should see the Anthony supporters that were posting on Topix in the Team Jesse Grund thread. They totally hijacked it and if you want to see exacly what the defense team is going to say to raise oubt then this is a good place to start. There is heaps over there and I felt really dirty and icky when I finished reading it all. :(
http://www.topix.com/forum/county/orange-fl/TH3MT60ASJLN39NVV/p83

Warning- some of this is really nasty stuff.

So is that Richard Grund posting as The Preacher Man over there? Sheesh that guy strikes me as off. Don't the Grunds have an attorney? Wouldn't that attorney advise them to stay off the boards? And threatening a lawsuit over the posting of public information? WHACK!

[browneyes106]

My dad died on a February 13. It was a Friday 13th too. I spent Valentine's Day shopping for clothes to bury him in. I don't like Valentine's Day. I prefer cremation, I think. Less hard stuff for the family to deal with. Except for what to do with the ashes.

I don't like Valentine's Day either. My great grandmother died on Valentine's Day 1996. A year later one of my close friends lost his day to cancer that day.

[browneyes106]

are narcissistic nutjobs. That's where they got it into their heads. I mean come on! They thought there would be all sorts of protests at the memorial too. Granted they've had some crazy things happen but that's because of their whackjob daughter. I really don't think anyone would steal Caylee's ashes. That's just plain ole paranoia talking. But then again they thought there was some sort of "threat" made to their family, which is why their !@%#$ daughter couldn't go to the police to report Cayless missing.

The whole family is nuts.

I agree. I think they were expecting a lot of people to show up and protest. I sort of laughed during the one incident at the Anthony home in which George and Cindy were getting physical with the protesters and Casey immeadiatly called 911 but yet she didn't report her daughter missing for over 30 days.

[javahog]

I agree. I think they were expecting a lot of people to show up and protest. I sort of laughed during the one incident at the Anthony home in which George and Cindy were getting physical with the protesters and Casey immeadiatly called 911 but yet she didn't report her daughter missing for over 30 days.

Well, look on the bright side: she won't have the defense of "I didn't know the number"!

[Gatordog]

I don't recall hearing anytime and I'm in my 50's. If this were common, I think someone would have tried to get Elvis's or Marilyn Monroe's or JFK's, etc. remains. I have never seen human ashes, but I think they look similar to what you would get out of the fireplace, and I can't see anyone paying for them. jmo :eek:

The only instance I know of is John Barrymore. Years ago I read Anthony Quinn's autobiography and he told a story of John Barrymore's best friends taking his body and using it in a joke. That's the only time I know that a corpse was taken.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Barrymore

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[Gatordog]

I can't imagine where G&C got it into their heads that someone would steal Caylee's remains. Sounds like something that they might use as an excuse for having had Caylee cremated against Casey's wishes to me. I suppose her ashes might qualify as a hot ticket item to a murderobilia nut.


IMO, they got it in their heads because they thought their lying thief daughter would do something with the bones or the ashes. I have no doubt at all that she would have arranged for those ash lockets to be sold with a little of Caylee's ashes in them. I have learned with this family, that whatever they are afraid that their daugher has done or will do, they blame someone else for doing.

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[Gatordog]

The lastest that I heard on the news is that the Anthony's want to have a memorial to Caylee in a park. Perhaps they want to entomb the ashes in some sort of statue. It better not be in Jay Blanchard Park. The last thing I want is when I go there for peaceful meditation is to feel that I am in a cemetary. What are these people thinking? Well, the world does revolve around Cindy, so I guess she doesn't care what others think.

Gator

[Gatordog]

What the...!?

Baez fired "Todd Black" and hired a new media representative...but "Todd Black's" people refuse to stop representing Baez??????

This is freaking insane. http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/orl-bk-jose-baez-spokesman-021209,0,7645989.story

http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-gen156.gif (http://www.freesmileys.org)

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[lorettalockhorn]

are narcissistic nutjobs. That's where they got it into their heads. I mean come on! They thought there would be all sorts of protests at the memorial too. Granted they've had some crazy things happen but that's because of their whackjob daughter. I really don't think anyone would steal Caylee's ashes. That's just plain ole paranoia talking. But then again they thought there was some sort of "threat" made to their family, which is why their !@%#$ daughter couldn't go to the police to report Cayless missing.

The whole family is nuts.

I think you've got most of the psychological keywords in there!

I agree. I think they were expecting a lot of people to show up and protest. I sort of laughed during the one incident at the Anthony home in which George and Cindy were getting physical with the protesters and Casey immeadiatly called 911 but yet she didn't report her daughter missing for over 30 days.

Takes a lot of fgall doesn't it?!

[Gatordog]

I think that tattoo was supposed to read: Beautiful Lie. I heard Casey's gonna sue the guy for misspelling!!

Okay, that's was low. :hat:

http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-signs115.gif (http://www.freesmileys.org)

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[Gatordog]

A defense attorney has already thrown out an idea on NG: if she were the last person to pull off a piece of tape before the killer, her prints would be on the duct tape. BUT, when I tear duct tape, as I did today, I brace with my thumb and tear it, my fingers do not touch the sticky side that remains on the roll at all. So I wouldn't buy it. But there may be many non-handy people out there who might...

You are absolutely right, I just tried it with tape, and I just held where I'm going to tear. Also on JVM she had this absolutely huge industrial size roll of tape. I buy the smaller roll for home. So, that means that basically only four inches or so of tape are exposed to fingerprints, the rest is under tape until it's unrolled.

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[beachbum]

Supposedly Tim Miller and Mark Klaas were also on the list. (& I'll assume Granny Lois from Cindy's email disinvitation.)

Didn't Lee thank "everyone"? But yeah, I don't remember any of the Ants specifically thanking searchers.

Well we all know Mark Klass is an advacate for missing children. I cant believe they would put him on the "Not Allowed" list. He is a very good person I believe and has gone to be with many families for support. They are just to stupid to realize what a nice man he is.

As for the dust of humans--its really a dust-gray--work with a preacher and he just helped a family scatter ashes of one of his church members and he said it was just
soft ashes...and it blew like dust--infact alot of it ended up blowing back on him....he kind
of chuckled and said -how can I go acknowledge these family members when I have some
of "Uncle Ernie" on my clothing.

[lorettalockhorn]

Well we all know Mark Klass is an advacate for missing children. I cant believe they would put him on the "Not Allowed" list. He is a very good person I believe and has gone to be with many families for support. They are just to stupid to realize what a nice man he is.

Mark referred to Casey as "odious" on NG. I sure that put him on the chit list.

[javahog]

Mark referred to Casey as "odious" on NG. I sure that put him on the chit list.

I like Klaas, he's not all snuggles and puppies. I really thought he'd be the first parent to take out a perp in the courtroom.

[javahog]

So sorry to hear a sadness connected to a holiday. For me it's Thanksgiving-my dad heart attack and my Mom 5 days prior- accident. Valentine's is good for me-my Anniversary all tho i am sure my DH had an ulterior motive-one gift,one dinner and i will never forget the date. lol At least thats what i tease him with. Sorry it's sad for u and others. I lost my best friend to cancer a year ago now. Dam near killed me. She was only 48 and a wonderful gal. We were best friends since the age of 6. It was the hardest journey i ever went thru but when i came out the other side i took the good days we had and what she taught me thru her journey. Thats what she would have wanted. It did hurt my heart so as she was given 6 weeks from diagnosis and lasted 18 months. The last 2 weeks were hell and i try not to go there. Life is so very tough sometimes. And this case is no exception. Even for a little girl we did not know but came to know. :rose:

I'm sorry!

[javahog]

And i would not have blamed him. I will never forget the look on his face as he sat with his Mother ( i believe it was) as that waste of skin uttered the words he did in that courtroom. He reeled forward and that look on his face,gawd i dont know how he got thru that. Thank gawd he did and went on to do good. I guess ya can let it eat you alive and then the waste of skin gets to take another life. Or you can turn it into a pos. I was glad to hear G is out in support of the Haleigh (sp) case. If he can stay on course he is on his way to healing. I was so very worried for him. It's all he can do for Caylee and she needs someone to do right by her. Lord knows her Liar Mother obv. never did. MOO :rose:

The Thing that killed Polly is one of the lowest that has walked the earth. Awful.

[mandi3020]

I can safely say I have never before seen a man give himself a slobbery pulse hickey while moaning his sister's initials. I hope I never see-or hear-such a thing again.

LOL! (Well, that settles it. Before I come to lurk I have to put on a depends undergarment--sorry TMI)

Seriously, there is something really abnormal about Lee's behavior at the memorial service. The way he spoke in code and slobbering all over a bracelet, and swooning over his sister (yes that's who he was talking to) is just sick. This family could keep a team of mental health pros busy for decades to come. jmo

[lorettalockhorn]

That is so sad and i am sorry you had to deal. For me as hard as it was cuz both my parents were sudden it was the last thing i could ever do for them. My Dad was buried and my Mom cremated. She rests in her lovely urn at the foot of my Dad's plot-what she wanted. DH and I-he will be buried. I will be cremated. I have specific instructions which i know he and our children will honour. Part of my ashes will be sprinkled in the Grand Canyon since it's my happy place of peace,beauty and tranquility. Dont tell anyone as i know it's not legal lol. The rest of me goes in the the one plot we have bought. I want a party with drinks and lots of Bon Jovi and Rolling Stones music. A celebration of life. I'm part Irish what can i say.:shrug:

I feel the same way (well, maybe without Bon Jovi). Light hors d’ oeuvres and heavy drinks all round!

Condolences to those of y'all who have holidays reminding you of loss.

[lorettalockhorn]

Welcome out of lurkdom. Fair warning don the depends before many posts but fair warning between Gator,Loretta and Snoop it's a head up. Many other witty folks here but they are my depends people most of the time. lol

Hey Mandi!

Aww Beem. Who loves ya baby?!

http://i3.tinypic.com/3yowl50.jpg

Wow, look at that absobency rating; that's 3 1/2 Haterades!!!!!!!!!

[lorettalockhorn]

Loretta you are going to leave out my boyfriend Jon??? What's up with that lol

My bottled up lust is for Tony Bourdain. Call me a narcissist, but he's a male me!

[javahog]

If the father murdered Caylee ...he'd get death in Florida. I know that because Casey is a woman .... she won't get death, the prosecution will be lucky to get murder one. Good thing it was a female child though because if it were a male child ....I believe she would get something like a manslaughter due to some sort of depression or some kinda "post partum" or whatever the lawyer makes work for her to avoid accountability that a man would surely face. IMO

Welcome, Toskala.

So far it looks like Baez is going for the "she's completely innocent" defense. Good luck to him with that one, imo...

[javahog]

Come on, guys, wake up or break some news! We need a troll or something! I have 54 posts to make senior status, demmit!

[javahog]

I am completely read up. I am 100% positive if the father murdered the female or male child ...he'd get death by the jury. I find it impossible that the prosecution will be able to get the same for a woman but because she murdered a girl , I give the a 5% chance. This is a very common theme in murder trials ....it's two different systems for the sexes. imo

Right now I give it a 0% chance since the prosecution is not asking for the DP.

[javahog]

I get what u are saying as far as women getting the DP. I will give the odds further in this case. MOO only and frankly i would rather her rot in a cell till the end of her time without men,Fusion, drinks, friends to rip off and her cell phone. That would make my day. Just as long as this waste of skin can never pro-create. I'm all good with that. MOO

Yeah, I'm good either way, which is odd for me. I am very pro-DP. But rotting in prison, no men, getting old and nasty, no partying, no sexy clothes, no texting...yeah, that is almost like a personalized punishment for her...

ps, beem...like my new avatar, lol?!

[lorettalockhorn]

I am completely read up. I am 100% positive if the father murdered the female or male child ...he'd get death by the jury. I find it impossible that the prosecution will be able to get the same for a woman but because she murdered a girl , I give the a 5% chance. This is a very common theme in murder trials ....it's two different systems for the sexes. imo

Since the prosecution (at this time) isn't seeking the death penalty, I'm 100% positive she won't get it. Pity.

Of the women past and present on Florida's death row, most were convicted of murdering men. Unless the mindset of juries has changed, I would think that Casey would be a pretty good candidate, regardless the gender of the her victim. If jurors find the murder of adults worthy of death, I would imagine that they would feel that the murder of a child is even more heinous.

http://www.dc.state.fl.us/oth/deathrow/women.html

You have no idea how I would like to see DP back on the table. And the Ants can get up and make the same comments that they did at "Caylee's memorial" service, and I still won't be moved. Die, CMA. Die. (At the hands of The State, of course.)

[lorettalockhorn]

Yeah, I'm good either way, which is odd for me. I am very pro-DP. But rotting in prison, no men, getting old and nasty, no partying, no sexy clothes, no texting...yeah, that is almost like a personalized punishment for her...

ps, beem...like my new avatar, lol?!

He's um well hung. :eek: :hat: :punch:

[javahog]

He's um well hung. :eek: :hat: :punch:

Aww,man...all I saw was the butt of a warthog. Now its ruined for me, lol! Maybe I'll use Tony Bourdain out of spite!

[lorettalockhorn]

Aww,man...all I saw was the butt of a warthog. Now its ruined for me, lol! Maybe I'll use Tony Bourdain out of spite!

Have you seen THE pic of Tony?

[Zingo]

I saw your avatar, Java ... it was um, interesting. hee hee

;)

[javahog]

Have you seen THE pic of Tony?

:D I don't think that avatar would pass inspection with the FDA!

[javahog]

So, going back to Baez firing Press Corps Media... how could he? I thought Todd Black worked for some family? http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/orl-bk-jose-baez-spokesman-021209,0,7645989.story

So any theories what's up here?

[javahog]

Yup. I can see you're all troublemakers tonite...Hmmmmmmmmmm.

I have a question ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

1 . Is Scott P still in solitary?

2. When (hahahahahaha) Casey goes to prison will she also be kept in solitary, or is it temporary?


Tony B can take me around to travel and eat anytime he wants. After I'm done with Adrian Paul................:tongue:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2005/11/20/INGFUFHCFL56.DTL

This is a good description of San Quentin...

[javahog]

Yup. I can see you're all troublemakers tonite...Hmmmmmmmmmm.

I have a question ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

1 . Is Scott P still in solitary?

2. When (hahahahahaha) Casey goes to prison will she also be kept in solitary, or is it temporary?


Tony B can take me around to travel and eat anytime he wants. After I'm done with Adrian Paul................:tongue:

He's not exactly in solitary, but he doesn't "have any contact" with other prisoners...http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4176/is_20071224/ai_n21190601

[Gatordog]

I never heard a release of names on the list other than LP and NG. I dont recall any thank you for searcher's. Somebody else here may have heard and i just missed it. I cant force myself to go back and review. As i said before that gawd awful lip smacking noise is forever etched in my brain. And Oh Oh the way he did it with such drama. I have to move on here as i feel fluish and the visual is making me want to hurl. Me thinks there is more to Hoover (lee) than what meets the eye. He scares me. MOO :eek:

Beem, I agree with you. http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-signs113.gif (http://www.freesmileys.org)

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[deacon]

That's his ace right now , which allows for him to negotiate later on. imo

And it is her "ace" if it doesn't work. I really doubt there will be any negotiations now. Way too late in the game if LE has what I suspect they have. Way too late

[Gatordog]

Come on, guys, wake up or break some news! We need a troll or something! I have 54 posts to make senior status, demmit!

Hey Java. I see you have a new avatar. I have only one question - Where did you find a picture of my sister-in-law?

Gator

[Gatordog]

On HLN right now...................atty Brad Conway says Lee was talking to Cindy Casey and Caylee (referring to CMA)............

liar.

Who is this PR guy Marty McKenzie that's working for Baez?

Marty is a woman.

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[Native Alien]

Yup. I can see you're all troublemakers tonite...Hmmmmmmmmmm.

I have a question ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

1 . Is Scott P still in solitary?

2. When (hahahahahaha) Casey goes to prison will she also be kept in solitary, or is it temporary?


Tony B can take me around to travel and eat anytime he wants. After I'm done with Adrian Paul................:tongue:

They will likely have to keep her in "protective custody" which means solitary just like she is now. There is no way they could put her into the general population because the other women would kill her and it would be a very long, tortured death in the process.

[Native Alien]

Hey Java. I see you have a new avatar. I have only one question - Where did you find a picture of my sister-in-law?

Gator

:eek::D

[javahog]

Hey Java. I see you have a new avatar. I have only one question - Where did you find a picture of my sister-in-law?

Gator

You have a darned attractive family, Gator...darned attractive.

[javahog]

Marty is a woman.

Gator

As long as its not Gil Cantor with a falsetto and an alias again...

[lorettalockhorn]

:D I don't think that avatar would pass inspection with the FDA!

hotchacha

[javahog]

I'm saying that because she murdered a female that she could get death..ie.. a woman juror may give it to her where they normally wouldn't ....BUT I really don't even give that a chance. jmo

I base this on several cases like the " Delaney " case in Texas where she was allowed to bash her sons heads in with a rock and not even get murder one.

Injustice can be genderless. I can think of this obscure case from L.A. where this guy nearly beheaded his ex-wife and slashed up her friend and he totally got off.

I think the key with Casey would be proving how Caylee died, no mean feat...

[Gatordog]

You have a darned attractive family, Gator...darned attractive.

She's an in-law, not blood. It matches her personality more than her appearance, although that could use an overhaul.

Gator

[Gatordog]

It shows that the system doesn't work.....cuz the " man" would be dead. I'm surprised judges allow death if it's not for everyone..makes NO sense. imo

Women are on death row here in Florida. Eileen Wournos was put to death a few years back.

Gator

[javahog]

She's an in-law, not blood. It matches her personality more than her appearance, although that could use an overhaul.

Gator

I assumed that it was a brother bringing in a new gene pool...You know, this is probably what my mother-in-law sees in me, lol!

[deacon]

Women are on death row here in Florida. Eileen Wournos was put to death a few years back.

Gator

According to Department of Justice statistics there are 57 women on death row in the United States. It did not give a per centage of death row inmates that were female but I would venture to say, men kill more people than women do.

[javahog]

The women who murder will often get a pretty sweet deal because the poor prosecutors know how difficult it is to get the sentence they deserve as they can play a ton of cards. This usually scares the prosecutor to cut a deal with females so that they can at least save some face and get a conviction of some kind. Like I said ...if a man does it it equals death but a woman can just get like a manslaughter or at the very least life with all kinds of prison activities etc. It really is two whole different systems. IMO

Darlie Routier got it for killing her two boys in Texas.

[javahog]

Here's an article on Women Killers http://crime.about.com/od/female_offenders/a/mother_killers.htm

Something like 20% of women on Death Row killed children. Just a heads up, though: Nancy Scheper-Hughes in this article was one of my anthro profs, and I had real reservations about her...umm...point of view on a lot of things.

[javahog]

Oh.......that would be .........too bad http://i42.tinypic.com/23rr4he.gif

:rolleyes:

I'll have to check out the commissary shopping list to see if they offer duct tape. And stickers.

[lorettalockhorn]

Hey Java. I see you have a new avatar. I have only one question - Where did you find a picture of my sister-in-law?

Gator

We're kin!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :beer: Your brother married my harridan of a SIL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Welcome to the family. (And keep your back to the wall when you're around that one.) :hat:

[Justice Denied?]

Yes, the request was there. And no, the results weren't released. There were about 40 (?) pages missing from the release, so it may have been in that section, or maybe they weren't done yet.

I recall that now. Thanks for refreshing my memory.:o

[Justice Denied?]

I haven't had a chance to check anything...anyone hear anymore about the duct tape and possible fingerprints?

(sitting here gnashing my teeth and rubbing my hands together until I hear those blessed words that they are her prints.

From your fingers to God's ears. Just pray we see justice for Caylee.

[Justice Denied?]

My dad died on a February 13. It was a Friday 13th too. I spent Valentine's Day shopping for clothes to bury him in. I don't like Valentine's Day. I prefer cremation, I think. Less hard stuff for the family to deal with. Except for what to do with the ashes.

You have my deepest sympathies. May all your memories today and tomorrow be happy ones and may you find the joy that having loving parents should bring.

[Justice Denied?]

Too bad more tattoo artists aren't polyglots.

I wonder where she got the idea for that tattoo? Has anyone come out and said where it came from? Its hard for me to picture her pulling Italian out of her ***....

My thinkingis it could also be Spanish. Anyone here speak Spanish?

[Justice Denied?]

Supposedly Tim Miller and Mark Klaas were also on the list. (& I'll assume Granny Lois from Cindy's email disinvitation.)

Didn't Lee thank "everyone"? But yeah, I don't remember any of the Ants specifically thanking searchers.

Lee thanked everyone who helped with the memorial. The searchers were neer mentioned IIRC. I'm sure Tim was on the list though I don't remember seeing or hearing that anywhere.

[lorettalockhorn]

My thinkingis it could also be Spanish. Anyone here speak Spanish?

Beautiful life in Spanish is vida hermosa.

[lorettalockhorn]

Lee thanked everyone who helped with the memorial. The searchers were neer mentioned IIRC. I'm sure Tim was on the list though I don't remember seeing or hearing that anywhere.

Thanks JD (for not making me go back and watch Mr. French Cuffs again)!

It's sickening and insulting that the Ants wouldn't thank the searchers; just imagine if Caylee had been found sooner. It would have not only possibly preserved evidence, but it would have shortened the angst of not knowing for them.

NOT that I don't think there's more than a slight chance that Lee had an idea about where she was.

[Justice Denied?]

That is so sad and i am sorry you had to deal. For me as hard as it was cuz both my parents were sudden it was the last thing i could ever do for them. My Dad was buried and my Mom cremated. She rests in her lovely urn at the foot of my Dad's plot-what she wanted. DH and I-he will be buried. I will be cremated. I have specific instructions which i know he and our children will honour. Part of my ashes will be sprinkled in the Grand Canyon since it's my happy place of peace,beauty and tranquility. Dont tell anyone as i know it's not legal lol. The rest of me goes in the the one plot we have bought. I want a party with drinks and lots of Bon Jovi and Rolling Stones music. A celebration of life. I'm part Irish what can i say.:shrug:

I want a party also - a celebration of my wonderful life. I have a hard time walking now but I tell my family that I'm gonna dance off this earth and straight into the arms of Jesus. They better be happy for me.

[Justice Denied?]

Hey Mandi!

Aww Beem. Who loves ya baby?!

http://i3.tinypic.com/3yowl50.jpg

Wow, look at that absobency rating; that's 3 1/2 Haterades!!!!!!!!!

More than that. Those are cups Loretta! There is a lot less than a cup of fluid in a highball glass.

[Justice Denied?]

Yeah, I'm good either way, which is odd for me. I am very pro-DP. But rotting in prison, no men, getting old and nasty, no partying, no sexy clothes, no texting...yeah, that is almost like a personalized punishment for her...

ps, beem...like my new avatar, lol?!

Java, I'm not beem but I was gonna comment on your new avitar? Is that possibly a picture of you before you have your coffee? Just kidding! I know it looks how I feel before coffee. Would be terrified to see how I look.:beer:

[lorettalockhorn]

Java, I'm not beem but I was gonna comment on your new avitar? Is that possibly a picture of you before you have your coffee? Just kidding! I know it looks how I feel before coffee. Would be terrified to see how I look.:beer:

Not Java, but won't everyone here to know that the first stick that I reach for when I get up is not a ciggie, but lipstick!!

Java's new avatar is Gator's SIL who is my SIL too. We're inlaws!! (Just kidding. My SIL is a bitter old maid.)

[Gatordog]

Where is everyone? COme back! I won't sneeze on you, I got the purell here and the sudafed and the zicam. Here I am and it's after midnight and the bar is empty! Did you all get bounced? No gatorade for nawny? :punch:

Nothing on NG about the A's tonight. I guess their 15 minutes are really over.

I'll go take a look on the Haighlee site.

Hi Nawny, sorry I missed you last night. Loved your Italians pasta away joke. Hope you're feeling better today.

Gator

[Gatordog]

What's going on? i just replied to Nawny's post from 12:24 am and my 7:17 pm post is the first since then? Is everyone at a party? Did i forget my deordorant? No one posted today? Aw, it's Valentine's day. Everyone must be with their sweetie.

Happy St. Valentine's Day http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-love063.gif (http://www.freesmileys.org)

Gator

[javahog]

What's going on? i just replied to Nawny's post from 12:24 am and my 7:17 pm post is the first since then? Is everyone at a party? Did i forget my deordorant? No one posted today? Aw, it's Valentine's day. Everyone must be with their sweetie.

Happy St. Valentine's Day http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-love063.gif (http://www.freesmileys.org)

Gator

Hi Gator! I spilled beer on my computer so I'm not on today (well, obviously I am on, but I turned it on after letting it dry out and the mouse is sticky and it smells like warm beer, so my instinct is that I better turn it off until I find a nerd to help me...) , but happy Valentine's Day to you.

[beachbum]

Where is everyone? COme back! I won't sneeze on you, I got the purell here and the sudafed and the zicam. Here I am and it's after midnight and the bar is empty! Did you all get bounced? No gatorade for nawny? :punch:

Nothing on NG about the A's tonight. I guess their 15 minutes are really over.

I'll go take a look on the Haighlee site.

Guess NG has dropped Caylee's case now. Seems that way.

[lighthousedazy]

Guess NG has dropped Caylee's case now. Seems that way.
I think the show tonight was a repeat of the 1st or 2nd day that Haleigh was missing. There is supposed to be a special on NG on Monday about Caylee, I think. ;)

[STLcardfan]

I think the show tonight was a repeat of the 1st or 2nd day that Haleigh was missing. There is supposed to be a special on NG on Monday about Caylee, I think. ;)


she is having a special the Dark Side of Casey.

[lorettalockhorn]

she is having a special the Dark Side of Casey.

HAHAHA Churls Gone Wild! :hat:

[Native Alien]

HAHAHA Churls Gone Wild! :hat:

That made me :biggrin:

In all seriousness, I think that things are going to slow down now. At least until the next document dump and I am hoping that will be this week. I remember reading somewhere that the lab results are all back and had been turned over to the defense.

[sharlock]

Does anyone remember where the accusation came from Liar made re: G and Hoover? for innapropriate relations? Was it all rumour or was there any basis that she indeed did make such a claim. Not that i would believe anything out of her mouth.
She made the claim to both Jesse and Anthony Lazarro and they told LE in their interviews.

[sharlock]

That made me :biggrin:

In all seriousness, I think that things are going to slow down now. At least until the next document dump and I am hoping that will be this week. I remember reading somewhere that the lab results are all back and had been turned over to the defense.
Wow I hope so. I cannot wait for the doc dump.

[Lodi]

I don't think people should get their hopes up too much about a murder one conviction in this case. I believe that because Casey is a woman she can play the gender card. The prosecution has already let her escape death by not seeking the DP. Everyone knows if a man did this ....he'd get death. I believe she is looking at a " comprimised" verdict of something silly like a " manslaughter " or a " child negelect" . You see this time and time again with women who murder......the prosecution can't get the right verdict because the women hold all the cards. Example ....Mary Winkler is allowed to shoot her husband with a shotgun and walk but is a man did that he'd get death. The system is out of whack. IMO

Casey is a coldblooded murderer of her child and has shown no remorse. She deserves LWOP and that's what she will receive.

If Mr. Winkler had been a decent husband and father rather than a pious bullying tyrant, Mary wouldn't have killed him. He was bigger and stronger therefore she used his shotgun. If she had been stronger than him, she would have used her hands, just as I would have.

[lorettalockhorn]

I don't think people should get their hopes up too much about a murder one conviction in this case. I believe that because Casey is a woman she can play the gender card. The prosecution has already let her escape death by not seeking the DP. Everyone knows if a man did this ....he'd get death. I believe she is looking at a " comprimised" verdict of something silly like a " manslaughter " or a " child negelect" . You see this time and time again with women who murder......the prosecution can't get the right verdict because the women hold all the cards. Example ....Mary Winkler is allowed to shoot her husband with a shotgun and walk but is a man did that he'd get death. The system is out of whack. IMO

If you were right, I'd agree with you.

[Justice Denied?]

Good for u. And i know u will. So sorry to hear it's hard for u to get around :rose:

Heah, I get done what needs to be done! Be suprised what you can accomplish siting in a computer desk chair.

[Justice Denied?]

That made me :biggrin:

In all seriousness, I think that things are going to slow down now. At least until the next document dump and I am hoping that will be this week. I remember reading somewhere that the lab results are all back and had been turned over to the defense.

well, I want them to get on with re-interviewing the A's. They've waited long enough and the memorial is over.

[lorettalockhorn]

Heah, I get done what needs to be done! Be suprised what you can accomplish siting in a computer desk chair.

Bless your heart. So glad that you take time to point your mouse in our direction! :tongue:

well, I want them to get on with re-interviewing the A's. They've waited long enough and the memorial is over.

Amen. Enough of this lull. Let's get on with the new version of the truth from the Ants.

[One2Snoop]

If you were right, I'd agree with you.

After reading Toskala's posts here and in the Drew Peterson and Natalee Holloway forums, I do believe he's just another Troll. :rolleyes:

[lorettalockhorn]

After reading Toskala's posts here and in the Drew Peterson and Natalee Holloway forums, I do believe he's just another Troll. :rolleyes:

Anyone we know? LMAO

[One2Snoop]

Anyone we know? LMAO

I hope to god its not LOL. I just sent a request to DW to check it out.

[lorettalockhorn]

I hope to god its not LOL. I just sent a request to DW to check it out.

Toscala is hyperbolic like kg from the Nona Dirksmeyer thread, but I did see that other "split personality" logged in last night.

[javahog]

No troll. I have just seen the same thing ...time and time again. imo
. I do hope I am surprised but we already know she won't get death. :shrug:

Somebody do you wrong, Toskala?

[Gatordog]

she is having a special the Dark Side of Casey.

that's the only side of casey

gator

[Gatordog]

George Anthony was up where Haleigh went missing. He's there to help out. He said on tv that it was important that this little girl goes home, regardless of what has happened to her. Very nice of him to say that now. When people said that to him and Cindy, he wanted to beat them and Cindy would blow like a volcano screaming that she was alive and the negativity had to stop. I guess it's ok to be negative when it's someone else's child.

gator

[Native Alien]

George Anthony was up where Haleigh went missing. He's there to help out. He said on tv that it was important that this little girl goes home, regardless of what has happened to her. Very nice of him to say that now. When people said that to him and Cindy, he wanted to beat them and Cindy would blow like a volcano screaming that she was alive and the negativity had to stop. I guess it's ok to be negative when it's someone else's child.

gator

I can't verify this but I have read on other boards that both the Anthonys and Kidsfinders were asked to leave where Haleigh went missing.

The Anthonys were on Geraldo At Large this evening. I want to see the rerun of that program if I can find it on the tv.

[lorettalockhorn]

It's on youtube (of course!):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FDgUXgdadgo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZmT1049_h0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2inXOvXpN_4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E4qElybv7r8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IsIJfirnj1Q

[Kendu]

Tune in tonight for the latest chapter in the never ending saga.
"Casey's Dark Side"
Nothing new (unless LP has some new shocking/amazing/astounding details)the same video's the same tapes,the same pictures.
NG is beating this story to death. What next?
Casey the early years
Casey goes to school
Casey first kiss
Casey at the prom
Casey first dance
Casey favorite song
Casey favorite movie
Casey favorite color
Casey shoe size
It could go on for ever

[Kendu]

Bombshell--LP has learned that Casey was having a love affair with Michael jackson.
Casey to be on Dancing With The Stars
Casey to star in "Casey VS Alien"
Casey's new CD--a duet with Madonna
Breaking news--According to LP, Casey might have been the second gunman in Dallas
Casey to be on American Idol
New daisey chain --OJ, Scott Peterson, A-Rod, The Temptations, and the cast from the movie "Hairspray" As JVM would say "There's something fishy going on here"

[sharlock]

Bombshell--LP has learned that Casey was having a love affair with Michael jackson.
Casey to be on Dancing With The Stars
Casey to star in "Casey VS Alien"
Casey's new CD--a duet with Madonna
Breaking news--According to LP, Casey might have been the second gunman in Dallas
Casey to be on American Idol
New daisey chain --OJ, Scott Peterson, A-Rod, The Temptations, and the cast from the movie "Hairspray" As JVM would say "There's something fishy going on here"
This was soo funny.:D
http://home.roadrunner.com/~inskeep/cma.html
BTW can anyone tell me what Baez is doing with this? I don't really understand what it means.
2/11/2009 A NOTICE OF PROVISION OF SUPPLEMENTAL DISCOVERY

[sharlock]

I have been putting together a time line from the very beginning for this case and I want to include everything including Casey's lies and the truths behind them. Already it is starting to show interesting patterns. If anyone knows of things that have dates or times that can be attributed to them but that are not usually included in the timelines would you please post them so I can make sure I have included them.
Thanks guys!

[lorettalockhorn]

Tune in tonight for the latest chapter in the never ending saga.
"Casey's Dark Side"
Nothing new (unless LP has some new shocking/amazing/astounding details)the same video's the same tapes,the same pictures.
NG is beating this story to death. What next?
Casey the early years
Casey goes to school
Casey first kiss
Casey at the prom
Casey first dance
Casey favorite song
Casey favorite movie
Casey favorite color
Casey shoe size
It could go on for ever

Bombshell--LP has learned that Casey was having a love affair with Michael jackson.
Casey to be on Dancing With The Stars
Casey to star in "Casey VS Alien"
Casey's new CD--a duet with Madonna
Breaking news--According to LP, Casey might have been the second gunman in Dallas
Casey to be on American Idol
New daisey chain --OJ, Scott Peterson, A-Rod, The Temptations, and the cast from the movie "Hairspray" As JVM would say "There's something fishy going on here"

LMAO

Casey discovered to be the hole in the ozone layer.

[Native Alien]

BTW can anyone tell me what Baez is doing with this? I don't really understand what it means.
2/11/2009 A NOTICE OF PROVISION OF SUPPLEMENTAL DISCOVERY

Discovery, in this sense, is the process of getting statements or documents from the other party before going to court. Supplemental discovery is a follow-up to get more of the same, based on what showed up since then.

The notice is a letter requiring that a party provide more, or perhaps stating that a party has provided more. There may be a deadline assigned by the court.

There is more of an answer at the following:

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080425172228AA2NCaW

[Gatordog]

I can't verify this but I have read on other boards that both the Anthonys and Kidsfinders were asked to leave where Haleigh went missing.

The Anthonys were on Geraldo At Large this evening. I want to see the rerun of that program if I can find it on the tv.

I believe it. The last thing that missing child needs is KidFinders. They have yet to find anyone.

Gator

[javahog]

I believe it. The last thing that missing child needs is KidFinders. They have yet to find anyone.

Gator

Kidfinders specific problems aside, I find it concerning that everyone starts up their own group for this. Wouldn't it be better to consolidate efforts under the groups with proven results, like TES? It just seems so scattered to have every family start their own foundation...

[lorettalockhorn]

Does anyone here think George Anthony is in the condition to counsel, advise, or help a father who's five year old child is missing?

I doubt it. His sorrow is much too close to his heels. Without a lobotomy, there is no way anyone I know can gain healing ground 7 months after such a loss.

JMO

I think working with other parents who have had similar losses could be very therapeutic. BUT, I don't think George is ready to be speaking such as he did last week; much of it was about him, and his loss. Not the time and place in my opinion; that's a convo for a therapist.

[lorettalockhorn]

Kidfinders specific problems aside, I find it concerning that everyone starts up their own group for this. Wouldn't it be better to consolidate efforts under the groups with proven results, like TES? It just seems so scattered to have every family start their own foundation...

You make an excellent point, but I can't imagine a stellar outfit like TES wanting to have Dennis Milstead connected to them. (I could be very wrong, but it would shine a dingy light on them if they did.) Why people would donate money to a group like KidFinders when there are upstanding, legitimate charities that have records of results is something I'll never understand.

[Native Alien]

About the new document Dump

http://www.wesh.com/news/18725145/detail.html

ORLANDO, Fla. -- The state released over 1,100 pages of evidence to Casey Anthony’s defense team on Monday.

According to a source close to the investigation, test results from the FBI crime lab on the duct tape found on slain toddler Caylee Anthony's skull are in that new batch of evidence.

When asked by WESH 2's Bob Kealing if Casey Anthony’s fingerprints were on the duct tape, a source with direct knowledge of the investigation said, "This is not going to be good news for the defense."

[lorettalockhorn]

About the new document Dump

http://www.wesh.com/news/18725145/detail.html

ORLANDO, Fla. -- The state released over 1,100 pages of evidence to Casey Anthony’s defense team on Monday.

According to a source close to the investigation, test results from the FBI crime lab on the duct tape found on slain toddler Caylee Anthony's skull are in that new batch of evidence.

When asked by WESH 2's Bob Kealing if Casey Anthony’s fingerprints were on the duct tape, a source with direct knowledge of the investigation said, "This is not going to be good news for the defense."

I can dig it.

ETA: Where are my manners? Thanks for the link!

[javahog]

About the new document Dump

http://www.wesh.com/news/18725145/detail.html

ORLANDO, Fla. -- The state released over 1,100 pages of evidence to Casey Anthony’s defense team on Monday.

According to a source close to the investigation, test results from the FBI crime lab on the duct tape found on slain toddler Caylee Anthony's skull are in that new batch of evidence.

When asked by WESH 2's Bob Kealing if Casey Anthony’s fingerprints were on the duct tape, a source with direct knowledge of the investigation said, "This is not going to be good news for the defense."

Ooh, ooo,ooo...when do we get our hot little paws on it? (or trotters in my case). Thank you!!!!

[javahog]

Wow, I guess he really didn't like what he saw in the doc dump, lol! http://www.wftv.com/news/18726218/detail.html

just kidding! he was sick before the doc's went to him, I guess...but I think the article might be wrong, since it is a holiday-who would be in the office to send over the docs? It must have gone out on Friday, so maybe JB did have a nervous stomach, poor dear.

But interesting that the duct tape evidence might put the DP back up...there must be prints on it...

[javahog]

Wow, I just got a creepy thought...when asked about fingerprints on the duct tape, sources have always been kind of...oblique about it. What if Caylee's prints are on the tape, too? That would be pretty horrid.

Just trying to brace if there's anything like the heart sticker. Don't want to get blindsided again...

[lorettalockhorn]

Wow, I guess he really didn't like what he saw in the doc dump, lol! http://www.wftv.com/news/18726218/detail.html

just kidding! he was sick before the doc's went to him, I guess...but I think the article might be wrong, since it is a holiday-who would be in the office to send over the docs? It must have gone out on Friday, so maybe JB did have a nervous stomach, poor dear.

But interesting that the duct tape evidence might put the DP back up...there must be prints on it...

He'll be okay as soon as he takes a document dump. :punch:

[javahog]

He'll be okay as soon as he takes a document dump. :punch:

*snork*!

I've been trying not to crack up at *ahem* another site that takes itself too seriously...they keep talking about "a big dump coming", "a huge dump", "it's in the pipeline!"...and they don't know what they are saying, and I feel like a middle schooler for giggling!

[lorettalockhorn]

*snork*!

I've been trying not to crack up at *ahem* another site that takes itself too seriously...they keep talking about "a big dump coming", "a huge dump", "it's in the pipeline!"...and they don't know what they are saying, and I feel like a middle schooler for giggling!

LMAO Grab the Charmin!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Amy]

Yup. I can see you're all troublemakers tonite...Hmmmmmmmmmm.

I have a question ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

1 . Is Scott P still in solitary?

2. When (hahahahahaha) Casey goes to prison will she also be kept in solitary, or is it temporary?


Tony B can take me around to travel and eat anytime he wants. After I'm done with Adrian Paul................:tongue:

Since I am a few days behind, this will probably already be answered, but in case it isn't---I don't think it is solitary as I think he can HEAR other DR inmates (don't know if they can actually see anyone--like in the cell across the hall) but he is in a solitary cell, no roomie. I wonder, if they make too much noise or irritate the carp out of the other DP inmates, would they move the offenders to "the hole" for further isolation?

[Amy]

As long as its not Gil Cantor with a falsetto and an alias again...

If she isn't seen in person, one could always wonder.....and using Todd Black over and over for different operatives--oh, pr persons didn't seem to work out in the long run, maybe they are going with a new company name and new operative name? Not to say this is what is going on, but it wouldn't be IMPOSSIBLE for this to happen.

[Amy]

Thanks JD (for not making me go back and watch Mr. French Cuffs again)!

It's sickening and insulting that the Ants wouldn't thank the searchers; just imagine if Caylee had been found sooner. It would have not only possibly preserved evidence, but it would have shortened the angst of not knowing for them.

NOT that I don't think there's more than a slight chance that Lee had an idea about where she was.

I'm not sure preserving evidence was as top a priority as preserving their daughter's life, tho.

[Zingo]

I have been putting together a time line from the very beginning for this case and I want to include everything including Casey's lies and the truths behind them. Already it is starting to show interesting patterns. If anyone knows of things that have dates or times that can be attributed to them but that are not usually included in the timelines would you please post them so I can make sure I have included them.
Thanks guys!

I think at somepoint Casey accused Sarah Palin of shooting wolves from a helicopter.

No, whoops, that was that Judd woman who can't act.

Sorry, can't think of any lies that haven't already been revealed. :)

[Amy]

Guess NG has dropped Caylee's case now. Seems that way.

Today must be a "best of" show-I checked in a few times, and every single time it was the jailhouse visit w/the A's and Casey.

[Amy]

If you were right, I'd agree with you.

I think I recognize this poster, but can't remember all the nics.

[Amy]

No troll. I have just seen the same thing ...time and time again. imo
. I do hope I am surprised but we already know she won't get death. :shrug:

And we already know that because the prosecution removed the DP from the table before Caylee was found. So, it's no big surprise @ all.

[Amy]

I can't verify this but I have read on other boards that both the Anthonys and Kidsfinders were asked to leave where Haleigh went missing.

The Anthonys were on Geraldo At Large this evening. I want to see the rerun of that program if I can find it on the tv.

I didn't know KFN were even @ the site. The blurb read KFN helping with the search, but when you read the article, it said they had a website to help find Haleigh and were asking for donations for the searches. Didn't sound to me like they were there in person, but I could be wrong about that. They didn't mention the rolling billboard, but I would sure hope that if that comes into play that the phone # would be one that actually connects to crimestoppers or actually, ANY place. The number for Caylee was a disconnected number.

[lighthousedazy]

I didn't know KFN were even @ the site. The blurb read KFN helping with the search, but when you read the article, it said they had a website to help find Haleigh and were asking for donations for the searches. Didn't sound to me like they were there in person, but I could be wrong about that. They didn't mention the rolling billboard, but I would sure hope that if that comes into play that the phone # would be one that actually connects to crimestoppers or actually, ANY place. The number for Caylee was a disconnected number.Just my opinion, but I think KFN's only interest is collecting money and donations. :cuss:

[Native Alien]

And we already know that because the prosecution removed the DP from the table before Caylee was found. So, it's no big surprise @ all.

I think that in light of overwhelming evidence against Casey they will use the DP as a bargaining tool. They will tell Baez that he can either get her to accept the life without parole or they go to trial and they make sure that the DP is there.

[lorettalockhorn]

And we already know that because the prosecution removed the DP from the table before Caylee was found. So, it's no big surprise @ all.

I can't be the only one who got all tingly when there was buzz that the death penalty might come back with the duct tape evidence about to be released!

[Native Alien]

I can't be the only one who got all tingly when there was buzz that the death penalty might come back with the duct tape evidence about to be released!

You aren't believe me.....:)

[SaraSidle]

You aren't believe me.....:)

I totally agree with Native Alien...........you are not alone loretta sara
and I hate the dp but not for this

[Native Alien]

I believe that the prosecution will make Bozo a one time offer of a plea agreement of life without parole and when he refuses that, then they will go to trial and the DP will be there.

If what I suspect is in this set of documents, the prosecutors will get a conviction and there will be no if, ands, or buts about it all. The judge and the prosecutors will listen to what the Anthonys have to say but given the very nature of the crime, I don't think that it will matter much.

[Native Alien]

Is that, what cha call a SA LAM Da HUNK?
:hat:

Yeppers that is exactly what it is and what it will be because I truly believe that Bozo is not capable of putting on a good defense ( not one that can combat the facts as we know them or will know them). But his ego is writing checks his A** can't cash, so he will never admit that.

If someone else (read that LKB), doesn't talk some sense to Casey, she won't take any plea agreement. Therefore, I truly look for this to go to trial with the DP on the table. Having said that much let me speculate, and this is only my opinion and speculation, further that if there is one woman on the jury, Casey is done for. For that matter if there is one parent on the jury, then Casey is done for. Juries by nature are not stupid and to me Bozo is going to be talking down to them. End of my $0.02 worth.

[NMurphy02]

watch Haleigh's mom and Caylee's mom. Polar opposite reactions to their daughters being missing. I cannot stand Casey Anthony or anyone else in that family.

[shadydaisy]

http://www.tampabays10.com/news/local/crime/story.aspx?storyid=100615&catid=82

Casey's fingerprints NOT found on skull duct tape!

[Amy]

http://www.tampabays10.com/news/local/crime/story.aspx?storyid=100615&catid=82

Casey's fingerprints NOT found on skull duct tape!

Anonymous "sources" aren't any better than LP, in my books. So, guess I will wait for the doc dump to see for myself. They have SOMETHING, whether it is fingerprints or not--else I don't think they would have charged her with murder so early. They could have kept her in jail and then in prison on other charges and taken their time on charging for murder if they didn't have evidence (which would NOT have been the duct tape, anyway, before Caylee was found) they tho't they could get a conviction on.

I see where the defense team just wants LP to go away---maybe that is why NG keeps him around? A little thorn in defense's side to keep them on edge? ;)

[browneyes106]

Yup. I can see you're all troublemakers tonite...Hmmmmmmmmmm.

I have a question ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

1 . Is Scott P still in solitary?

2. When (hahahahahaha) Casey goes to prison will she also be kept in solitary, or is it temporary?


Tony B can take me around to travel and eat anytime he wants. After I'm done with Adrian Paul................:tongue:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2005/11/20/INGFUFHCFL56.DTL

This is a good description of San Quentin...

He's not exactly in solitary, but he doesn't "have any contact" with other prisoners...http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4176/is_20071224/ai_n21190601

Since I am a few days behind, this will probably already be answered, but in case it isn't---I don't think it is solitary as I think he can HEAR other DR inmates (don't know if they can actually see anyone--like in the cell across the hall) but he is in a solitary cell, no roomie. I wonder, if they make too much noise or irritate the carp out of the other DP inmates, would they move the offenders to "the hole" for further isolation?

I hadn't read those articles about the San Quentin death row. I watched a Larry King special he did at SQ and one of the prison adminstrators said Scott is friends with another DP inmate but he didn't say the inmate's name. I find it kind of weird that DP inmates in California can have all that stuff in their cells DP inmates should just have radios and CD players and no typewriters or steam cookers. If they want to type something up they should be required to request a typewriter brought into ther cell to type what they want and once they are done the guards should take the typewriter out of their cell. Since Scott is grade A cell mate probably the guys in cell block probably don't care mess with him. I think if Casey doesn't get the DP she will probably be in solitary or adminstrative segregation. Susan Smith pretty much is kept away from anyone who could do something to her. Also prisons do stuff like this to keep their corrections officers safe. It would suck if a guard was killed or hurt or trying to break a fight or keep another inmate from beating or stabing another inmate like Casey or Susan. My cousin is a former corrections officer in New Mexico. He is now a state police officer. He said that people that are child killers, murderers or sex offenders are often on the bottom of the totem pole with CO's. He said it is easy to pick out the charmers. Many of inmates in for murder know they will never be released but they basically do anything to charm the guards and adminstration into making their new homes more tolerable. They basically beg to have the priveleges that inmates with lesser convictions have. My cousin says to used to ignore a lot of them. He also said that most inmates over a few years stop getting commissary/canteen money from their families. The families sort of get tired of sending money to their imprisoned relatives because often the families are struggling financially. He said the inmates do earn small amounts of money from their jobs and the money can be used for the commissary/canteen. We talked about Casey a couple of weeks ago and he said that she will be on the bottom of the totem pole in prison and that it wouldn't be surprising the if Ants and others stopped giving her money for pork rinds. My mom's close friend who did part time nursing for a prison in Colorado also said the same things too. She said over time inmates lose financial support from their families when they can no longer afford to give them an allowance or pay for attorneys. I think maybe in 20 years Casey will be inmate who simply gets three meals a day and only listens to a radio with a bad signal. I think with the DTV transition most inmates won't be watching TV anymore and I doubt they will get convertor boxes. Casey will probably kept away from the other inmates and the guards might not be friendly to her.

[browneyes106]

Tune in tonight for the latest chapter in the never ending saga.
"Casey's Dark Side"
Nothing new (unless LP has some new shocking/amazing/astounding details)the same video's the same tapes,the same pictures.
NG is beating this story to death. What next?
Casey the early years
Casey goes to school
Casey first kiss
Casey at the prom
Casey first dance
Casey favorite song
Casey favorite movie
Casey favorite color
Casey shoe size
It could go on for ever

I agree NG is is beating this story to death. I could see her doing a show devoted to Casey's life before June 15, 2008. But I do wonder a lot about Casey's teen years because according to a lot of people Casey was a trouble maker but others say different. I remember somewhere that Casey was in AP classes in high school but it is a known fact that Casey didn't graduate because she lacked a credit. I wonder if Casey found out at the last minute that she would be unable to graduate or months in advance. Some schools do allow people lacking one or two credits to go through graduation ceremonies and they can later make up classes and receive a diploma from school. I also wonder why the Ant's didn't maker her get a GED. But it seems like George and Cindy don't question a lot of things or push their kids to do better. I think LE has probably looked deeply into Casey's life and their is probably information we will never know.

[Gatordog]

Ooh, ooo,ooo...when do we get our hot little paws on it? (or trotters in my case). Thank you!!!!

WFTV said just the opposite this morning - no fingerprints, which I find hard to believe.

Gator

[Gatordog]

I didn't know KFN were even @ the site. The blurb read KFN helping with the search, but when you read the article, it said they had a website to help find Haleigh and were asking for donations for the searches. Didn't sound to me like they were there in person, but I could be wrong about that. They didn't mention the rolling billboard, but I would sure hope that if that comes into play that the phone # would be one that actually connects to crimestoppers or actually, ANY place. The number for Caylee was a disconnected number.

They were there in person. I saw their mugs on the news.

[lorettalockhorn]

WFTV said just the opposite this morning - no fingerprints, which I find hard to believe.

Gator

I'm finding conflicting reports. :shrug:

They were there in person. I saw their mugs on the news.

Fugly mugs. How does KFN stay in business? Do they pay themselves? Does Milford have some other means of support? What's the lowdown?

[One2Snoop]

WFTV said just the opposite this morning - no fingerprints, which I find hard to believe.

Gator


I've also read conflicting reports. :shrug: Is it possible for fingerprints to wash off of duct tape on the sticky side? :confused:

Is the big dump supposed to take place tomorrow? http://i41.tinypic.com/24l2cfc.jpg

[Native Alien]

I've also read conflicting reports. :shrug: Is it possible for fingerprints to wash off of duct tape on the sticky side? :confused:

Is the big dump supposed to take place tomorrow? http://i41.tinypic.com/24l2cfc.jpg

I have never heard of anything washing off duct tape's sticky side.

What they are saying is that the sooner that the clerk could have something ready to release is tomorrow, noone has said what time tomorrow.

[lorettalockhorn]

I've also read conflicting reports. :shrug: Is it possible for fingerprints to wash off of duct tape on the sticky side? :confused:

Is the big dump supposed to take place tomorrow? http://i41.tinypic.com/24l2cfc.jpg

LMAO http://i36.tinypic.com/iclow0.jpg

[lorettalockhorn]

The point is .... a man would've got death. That alone should concern everyone. It means that the system has a major flaw. imo

Do you have inside information that the death penalty isn't going to come back in this case?

[Gatordog]

http://www.wftv.com/news/18734025/detail.html

Brad Conway was on WESH at 4:30 and he said that he has been preparing the Anthonys for the information that will be contained in the latest evidence documents to be released.

Gator

[lorettalockhorn]

http://www.wftv.com/news/18734025/detail.html

Brad Conway was on WESH at 4:30 and he said that he has been preparing the Anthonys for the information that will be contained in the latest evidence documents to be released.

Gator

Thanks! Reportedly the Ants didn't read the last batch of information including the heart sticker. Maybe they shouldn't read this.

[lorettalockhorn]

http://www.wftv.com/news/18734025/detail.html

Brad Conway was on WESH at 4:30 and he said that he has been preparing the Anthonys for the information that will be contained in the latest evidence documents to be released.

Gator

..Eyewitness News has learned the new evidence builds a stronger case against the one who should have been Caylee's fiercest protector, her mother... hmmm

[One2Snoop]

..Eyewitness News has learned the new evidence builds a stronger case against the one who should have been Caylee's fiercest protector, her mother... hmmm


Thats good news! I can hardly wait to read them. :beer:

[lorettalockhorn]

Thats good news! I can hardly wait to read them. :beer:

Hell, we've got to read them if for no other reason than to satisfy our curiosity about the conflicting reports about the duct tape. :shrug::confused:

[Woostock]

That's a real surprise isn't it?
Perhaps to the Anthonys.......
I don't know which would be worse, lwop or the death penalty......
but it does look as if we are closer to justice for Caylee

[Gatordog]

Latest report from Bob Kealing of WESH. After this doc dump becomes public, there are still 22 disks left of info to be turned over to the defense. :read: Also, a person close to the investigation said the evidence on the duct tape is "open to interpretation".

Gator

[SaraSidle]

Latest report from Bob Kealing of WESH. After this doc dump becomes public, there are still 22 disks left of info to be turned over to the defense. :read: Also, a person close to the investigation said the evidence on the duct tape is "open to interpretation".

Gator

new rumor from listening to Fox Live fingerprints may or may not be on duct tape and/or heart. I have no link.........IMO sara

[javahog]

new rumor from listening to Fox Live fingerprints may or may not be on duct tape and/or heart. I have no link.........IMO sara

Here's a link Sara...it says the evidence to be released is "blockbuster" (sound familiar?), but that they are still analyzing the duct tape...http://www.wftv.com/news/18734025/detail.html

[SuzDuJour]

http://www.wftv.com/news/18734025/detail.html

Brad Conway was on WESH at 4:30 and he said that he has been preparing the Anthonys for the information that will be contained in the latest evidence documents to be released.

Gator

It doesn't seem like he would need to "prepare" them for GOOD news, so I'm guessing it's going to be fairly devastating to them and BAD news for Casey. But then she already knows that, doesn't she?

[lorettalockhorn]

Here's a link Sara...it says the evidence to be released is "blockbuster" (sound familiar?), but that they are still analyzing the duct tape...http://www.wftv.com/news/18734025/detail.html

I think they meant to say the evidence is gut buster. That's what landed Baez in the hospital.

It doesn't seem like he would need to "prepare" them for GOOD news, so I'm guessing it's going to be fairly devastating to them and BAD news for Casey. But then she already knows that, doesn't she?

How about that Brad Conway getting the lowdown on the evidence before it's released to the public? Isn't that special? Wonder if he had already prepared George before they went on Geraldo the other night?

[Amy]

I think they meant to say the evidence is gut buster. That's what landed Baez in the hospital.



How about that Brad Conway getting the lowdown on the evidence before it's released to the public? Isn't that special? Wonder if he had already prepared George before they went on Geraldo the other night?

I was wondering--how would Brad Conway know what specifics to prepare them for--does Baez or the defense team share info with him, or does he make educated guess, or I guess he could get his info the same as the reporters--only theirs do seem to be vague.

I wouldn't think it would be normal protocol for the defendant's parents to get discovery the same as the defense team.

[Amy]

Thats good news! I can hardly wait to read them. :beer:

I won't get to read them much-have to work the next 3 days--12 hours shifts, with a meeting after one of them!!! (crying icon here.)

[lorettalockhorn]

I was wondering--how would Brad Conway know what specifics to prepare them for--does Baez or the defense team share info with him, or does he make educated guess, or I guess he could get his info the same as the reporters--only theirs do seem to be vague.

I wouldn't think it would be normal protocol for the defendant's parents to get discovery the same as the defense team.

When you consider that G&C will likely be called as witnesses for the prosecution, it seems odd that Conway's is cozying up to the defense. In this vid he says that he'll look over the discovery. Assume that means he hasn't already, but not sure when he made the statement.

http://www.wesh.com/video/18735246/index.html

[DrewBerry]

Loretta, you crack me up!

With this "impending dump" could be that Liar's case is in the toilet!

[Amy]

When you consider that G&C will likely be called as witnesses for the prosecution, it seems odd that Conway's is cozying up to the defense. In this vid he says that he'll look over the discovery. Assume that means he hasn't already, but not sure when he made the statement.

http://www.wesh.com/video/18735246/index.html

Thanks for the link. The one I followed earlier didn't have Conway on.

[lorettalockhorn]

Loretta, you crack me up!

With this "impending dump" could be that Liar's case is in the toilet!

http://i44.tinypic.com/2hfkjt4.jpg

[lorettalockhorn]

Thanks for the link. The one I followed earlier didn't have Conway on.

Not sure when that got posted. I didn't see it earlier either. Don't work too hard the next few days!

[mu8shark]

Here's a link Sara...it says the evidence to be released is "blockbuster" (sound familiar?), but that they are still analyzing the duct tape...http://www.wftv.com/news/18734025/detail.html Let me just say that I do not believe that LE does not know if there are fingerprints on that tape. Here is what i believe. I think that probably that was one of the earliest tests they did. It does not take a long time. And I think they have not made a written report which is a time honored way that prosecutors withhold discovery until they are ready to release it. I am not saying the prosecution can just spring it on the defense a week before trial but with the trial an estimated year away, I think they may be just waiting a while to do a written report. I have seen it done in lots of cases. And when they feel the time is right, suddenly those tests will mysteriously come back and find their way into a written report. I just think it would not take this long for fingerprint evidence.

[mu8shark]

It doesn't seem like he would need to "prepare" them for GOOD news, so I'm guessing it's going to be fairly devastating to them and BAD news for Casey. But then she already knows that, doesn't she?Excellent point you are right. If it was just jolly good news that would exonerate her, why would he need to prepare them? I agree and am glad to hear him say that.

[mu8shark]

Ummm nope dont think that will fly. Not to say that DP isn't asked for less when it comes to women. It is not completely off the table yet. Did she look like a post partum woman while she as at Fusion and hello Caylee was almost 3. Read up and come back with your opines. She is accountable and unless they find a jury that is totally dual diagnosis she is going down mach 90. I think i just allowed myself to be bated in my sleep dep. And P.S. post partum is a real and credible documented disorder. It is hormonal and has nothing to do with the sex of the child. MOOI totally agree and think if they try to pin it on George they will really risk their already frayed credibility as there is literally no evidence to point to him. He was not even home during the comp searches for all that dying crap and how to make chloroform. Also someone posted a good article on post partum on here a while back and it is really unheard of when the child is three. You could have good old depression but not post partum. And the sex of the child does not make much difference in post partum that I have ever heard. Women who have boys or girls can have that condition.

[sharlock]

I think at somepoint Casey accused Sarah Palin of shooting wolves from a helicopter.

No, whoops, that was that Judd woman who can't act.

Sorry, can't think of any lies that haven't already been revealed. :)
Ok I thought that was Cindy, now I am confused. Thanks anyway lol!:D

[sharlock]

Wow, I just got a creepy thought...when asked about fingerprints on the duct tape, sources have always been kind of...oblique about it. What if Caylee's prints are on the tape, too? That would be pretty horrid.

Just trying to brace if there's anything like the heart sticker. Don't want to get blindsided again...
Eewwghh! 'shudders' that is soo horrible but sooo possible.:mad:

[mu8shark]

The article posted on here said that the new info may have info on how she died and if she suffered. I wonder if Casey spilled chloroform on the bed or sheets or something and they found that chemical. If you are nervous it would be easy to spill or just get little drops on the bed. I still have hope for the tape because I don't think LP would willingly lie about it because it would make him look really bad. So unless his source lied to discredit him or he has a lousy source, I think there could still be fingerprints on that tape. Can't wait for the document dump.

[mu8shark]

How about Schizophrenia? That hits around 18 to 21.I think a while back Baez said that Casey was fine mentally kind of indicating they would not go with that defense. And remember for them to go with an insanity defense she has to say she did it but was insane.Jose just recently said she was 100 per cent innocent and he believed it. I think she is just a selfish sociopath. Also one thing struck me when I was rewatching the jailhouse tapes. At no point does she say, "You know Mom and Dad I know I used bad judgement or I could have been smarter and told you the truth early on. and if that has caused you any pain , I am so sorry. " I realize she would not say I killed her, so sorry about that but you would think with her mother crying she could have some sympathy, some kind of kind words but nothing, nothing but Casey, Casey , Casey, I , I , I how I feel. And when she laughs and says Why is she crying already? Why ????? Um lets see her daughter is in jail, their lives have been exposed bare and been torn upside down and their three year old granddaughter is missing. Gee what a crybaby Cindy is. Sheeeesh!

[sharlock]

I think they meant to say the evidence is gut buster. That's what landed Baez in the hospital.

Either the docs OR maybe he got some bad news about the bar investigation??:eek:

How about that Brad Conway getting the lowdown on the evidence before it's released to the public? Isn't that special? Wonder if he had already prepared George before they went on Geraldo the other night?
Maybe he asks LP.:D

[eatcupcakes]

Either the docs OR maybe he got some bad news about the bar investigation??:eek:


Maybe he asks LP.:D

LP thinks he knows everything, do you think Brad thinks he does too. I hope Bard is smarter than that.:D

[Mojo]

I can't get to the last two pages of the board? Is anyone else having this problem?

[lorettalockhorn]

Mother Hyperventilated When Caylee's Body Found

ORLANDO, Fla. -- New documents released by the State Attorney's Office show the mother of missing Florida toddler Caylee Anthony hyperventilated and asked for medication when she was notified that her daughter's body had been found last December.

The documents released Wednesday deal with evidence found at the crime scene where Caylee's body was found and items taken by authorities during subsequent searches of the house Caylee shared with her mother and grandparents.

WFTV.com is going through the documents and thousands of images that were released. Many images and documents will be posted online as soon as possible....

http://www.[/I]wftv.com/news/18739816/detail.html

[Mojo]

Yes we all are. DW removed some posts so no worries you are not missing pages.

Awesome, thanks, Beam!:beer:

[Mojo]

Mother Hyperventilated When Caylee's Body Found

ORLANDO, Fla. -- New documents released by the State Attorney's Office show the mother of missing Florida toddler Caylee Anthony hyperventilated and asked for medication when she was notified that her daughter's body had been found last December.

The documents released Wednesday deal with evidence found at the crime scene where Caylee's body was found and items taken by authorities during subsequent searches of the house Caylee shared with her mother and grandparents.

WFTV.com is going through the documents and thousands of images that were released. Many images and documents will be posted online as soon as possible....

http://www.[/I]wftv.com/news/18739816/detail.html

I wish they'd hurry up and post the docs!

[Woostock]

Seems as if the DP can be put back on the table. José needs to bow out ; he does not have what it will take in this case. I only read a little as it made me literally sick and disgusted.

[lorettalockhorn]

From the http://www.wesh.com/news/18738287/detail.html link:

A sticker, missing its heart, found at the Anthony home.

http://i39.tinypic.com/2u7tzqp.jpg

The sticker found on Caylee's remains.

http://i42.tinypic.com/mwe0sk.jpg

The diary, 6/21/08

http://i41.tinypic.com/28gyz42.jpg

[lorettalockhorn]

- The State Attorney's Office released about 500 pages and photographs of legal and investigative documents in the case against Casey Anthony Wednesday morning.

The big news: investigators say the duct tape discovered on Caylee Anthony's skull at the crime scene matches duct tape stuck on a gas can at the Anthony’s' house....

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news/local/021809_anthony_case_discovery_released

[DrewBerry]

Mother Hyperventilated When Caylee's Body Found

ORLANDO, Fla. -- New documents released by the State Attorney's Office show the mother of missing Florida toddler Caylee Anthony hyperventilated and asked for medication when she was notified that her daughter's body had been found last December.

The documents released Wednesday deal with evidence found at the crime scene where Caylee's body was found and items taken by authorities during subsequent searches of the house Caylee shared with her mother and grandparents.

WFTV.com is going through the documents and thousands of images that were released. Many images and documents will be posted online as soon as possible....

http://www.[/I]wftv.com/news/18739816/detail.html

Yeah, I bet she hyperventilated. . .overcome with fear the truth has been discovered and she will have to give up her pole dancing career. She was so sure she could lie her way out of this. Wonder if Cindy hyperventilated? Not likely.

[Mojo]

From the http://www.wesh.com/news/18738287/detail.html link:

OMG on the diary entry. That says it all in black and white. I wonder if this will be the thing that changes C&G's mind?

[lighthousedazy]

That page in the diary is horrific. Chilling and heartless. This should be a major plus for conviction. :flamemad: jmo

[lissyanne1]

OMG on the diary entry. That says it all in black and white. I wonder if this will be the thing that changes C&G's mind?

I don't think it matters what this brat does, it won't change their minds, esp cindy's. They will probably say Zanny forged the diary and then planted it.

[DrewBerry]

That page in the diary is horrific. Chilling and heartless. This should be a major plus for conviction. :flamemad: jmo

I totally agree. Classic narcissistic personality disorder; not insanity. Wonder how her "dream team" is going to explain how she's able to write about being "so happy" all the while her daughter has been MISSING for weeks!! :flamemad:

[One2Snoop]

ME, ME, ME, ME, ME! :eek:

From Casey's Diary...
June 21~

I have no regrets, just a bit worried. I just want for everything to work out okay. I completely trust my own judgement. I know that I made the right decision. I just hope the end justifies the means. I just want to know what the future holds for me. I guess I will ---- see.
This is the happiest that I have been in a very long time. I hope that my happiness will continue to grow.
I've made new friends that I really like. I've surrounded myself with good people. -I am finally happy, let's just hope that it doesn't change.

[Woostock]

The diary entry where she asks what will the future hold for her. ummmmm
death penalty maybe?

[lissyanne1]

I wonder how the Anthonys will be able to explain that even if it were someone else that took her or it was an accident, why is their daughter so damn happy afterwards?

[Gatordog]

http://www.wftv.com/news/18739816/detail.html

[lorettalockhorn]

I hope y'all are reading the news updates thread. Lots of info in there. Most of it pretty damning. Not sure how Conway's going to gloss it over for the Ants.

[javahog]

ME, ME, ME, ME, ME! :eek:

From Casey's Diary...
June 21~

I have no regrets, just a bit worried. I just want for everything to work out okay. I completely trust my own judgement. I know that I made the right decision. I just hope the end justifies the means. I just want to know what the future holds for me. I guess I will ---- see.
This is the happiest that I have been in a very long time. I hope that my happiness will continue to grow.
I've made new friends that I really like. I've surrounded myself with good people. -I am finally happy, let's just hope that it doesn't change.

I'm surprised Jose isn't in ICU.

Maybe she's demon possessed. How come there's never a herd of pigs around when you need 'em?

[javahog]

I hope y'all are reading the news updates thread. Lots of info in there. Most of it pretty damning. Not sure how Conway's going to gloss it over for the Ants.

I think George has decided she's insane, and that's his comfort.

Interesting that Cindy told the cops the blanket she was found in was missing...I wonder when she told them that? She must have noted it early and that is why she was leading Casey about someone having a key to the house. She'll grasp at anything to believe the lie, imo...

[lorettalockhorn]

Pages 1-90:

http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/3374B%20TO%203463B.pdf

[javahog]

A pregnancy test was found at the body dump!!!

[javahog]

no latent prints on tape.

[javahog]

Caylee cannot be the biological offspring of Lee Anthony.

[javahog]

Casey had a breakdown and wanted to be committed!

Why didn't anyone listen to her? She wanted to give Caylee away, she wanted to be committed...if these had been done, this might not have happened.

And from a practical point of view, what's wrong with JB that he dismissed insanity? I have the opinion that's some lousy lawyering!

[tv]

no latent prints on tape. Darn. :(

[javahog]

Roy Kronk prodded the bag with his meter reading tool and the skull rolled out. typical guy move...what's that? I don't know, let's get a stick!

On page 3381, it is clarified that the skull could not have rolled due to position and was uncovered. The PR says the skull was not moved and had long been in place...

[javahog]

Cindy told LE that the Winnie the Pooh blanket was missing on December 20, when it was listed in a search warrant. She must have known THAT was gone a lot longer than that, imo...

[lorettalockhorn]

A syringe was found, but I'm not seeing any test results yet. On 12/20 Cindy stated that she had people walk the area where Caylee's remains were found a month ago.

[sharlock]

OMG on the diary entry. That says it all in black and white. I wonder if this will be the thing that changes C&G's mind?
I have to say I was worried about what we would get. That it would be a dissappointment and not enough to convict. As much as I wish this didn't happen and that this stuff didn't have to exist I at least feel finally that Caylee will have justice. I am astounded at the complete stupidity of Casey and am dumbfounded by her brazeness in admitting she has no regrets and that she killed Caylee to make herself happiier. I have never supported the death penalty and I won't change my mind now but deep down I will not be upset if she gets death. I actually feel sympathy for Baez. There is no way he could have expected to see this type of evidence. I think she had him convinced that even if she wasn't innocent she did not mean to kill Caylee. All hope for him is gone now and that must smart like hell.
RIP sweet Caylee, you are loved!:rose:

[beachbum]

I have to say I was worried about what we would get. That it would be a dissappointment and not enough to convict. As much as I wish this didn't happen and that this stuff didn't have to exist I at least feel finally that Caylee will have justice. I am astounded at the complete stupidity of Casey and am dumbfounded by her brazeness in admitting she has no regrets and that she killed Caylee to make herself happiier. I have never supported the death penalty and I won't change my mind now but deep down I will not be upset if she gets death. I actually feel sympathy for Baez. There is no way he could have expected to see this type of evidence. I think she had him convinced that even if she wasn't innocent she did not mean to kill Caylee. All hope for him is gone now and that must smart like hell.
RIP sweet Caylee, you are loved!:rose:


Reading the journal-wow it makes me have tears-for Caylee. Casey what a monster you are. JMO

[javahog]

Annie said that Lee Anthony called her and said LE would probably be contacting her.

He told her NOT to protect Casey, to protect herself and tell the truth if there was anything she felt she should tell them!

[lorettalockhorn]

Annie said that Lee Anthony called her and said LE would probably be contacting her.

He told her NOT to protect Casey, to protect herself and tell the truth if there was anything she felt she should tell them!

He should take his own Fadvice.

[javahog]

I love this quote from the police interview reports (page 3388):

Annie said she believed if Casey harmed Caylee, she did not do it alone because she “wasn’t that smart.” Annie expressed this as an opinion and has no fact to support this statement.

I certainly don’t need any supporting facts to accept she’s not that smart, lol!

[lorettalockhorn]

RE: Casey's diary:

...10:58 a.m.: A photo of Casey Anthony’s diary, dated June 21, said, "I hope I made the right decision. I just hope the end justifies the means…This is the happiest I have been in a very long time." The date puts it a few days after Caylee was last seen alive, assuming it was written during 2008.

http://www.wesh.com/news/18738287/detail.html

[Justice Denied?]

:DLoretta, you crack me up!

With this "impending dump" could be that Liar's case is in the toilet!



that is absolutely too, too cute! Ha! Ha! :D:biggrin::D

[lorettalockhorn]

Wondering two things:

Wasn't Bozo going to have a press conference today to talk about the evidence? He better hurry, or people will be reading the docs instead of listening to him. :hat:

Wonder who's the guy whose wallet and Sears card were found at the scene.

[lorettalockhorn]

Monforte may be this guy:

http://www.linkedin.com/pub/3/770/35b

Wonder how Casey got hold of his CC and if she used it.

[Native Alien]

There is one thing that bothers me about the fingerprint evidence. It isn't complete and while they have excluded George, Cindy and Lee, they haven't excluded Casey.

I haven't seen the toxicology reports in here either.

That would tell what is in the bottle and the syringe.

[javahog]

Monforte may be this guy:

http://www.linkedin.com/pub/3/770/35b

Wonder how Casey got hold of his CC and if she used it.

Might be that someone stole it and flung it out the window of a car driving by? Purses turn up like that all the time around here...

[javahog]

There is one thing that bothers me about the fingerprint evidence. It isn't complete and while they have excluded George, Cindy and Lee, they haven't excluded Casey.

I haven't seen the toxicology reports in here either.

That would tell what is in the bottle and the syringe.

GOOD point! Maybe that is why the "source" was saying yesterday they were still working on the tape? But they say there's no latent prints...hmmmm...

Any one count pages to see how much is missing, yet?

[Mojo]

GOOD point! Maybe that is why the "source" was saying yesterday they were still working on the tape? But they say there's no latent prints...hmmmm...

Any one count pages to see how much is missing, yet?

Could someone post the link to all the documents released? I only see pages 1-90 that Loretta posted. (thanks, Loretta!)

[javahog]

Could someone post the link to all the documents released? I only see pages 1-90 that Loretta posted. (thanks, Loretta!)

I think wftv.com has all of it...

[Gatordog]

Reading the journal-wow it makes me have tears-for Caylee. Casey what a monster you are. JMO

Someone made the comment that they think the journal entry was from June of 2003 since the preceeding page has '03 on it. Let's hope there is better documentation on the following pages.

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