Caylee Anthony Case Discussion Only

[Twinners]

You posted the link but you couldn't get it to open up and paste so you asked someone else to do it. I was fully aware. But you were the one who wanted that document posted.

If you think it is perfectly acceptable to pass on lies and inflammatory comments about people, then I guess we come from two different worlds. I guess that's why your nic is Twinners.

Gator

I didn't ask anyone else to do it Gator. I said maybe someone else could. I normally post the actual articles along with the link when I post stuff I find in the news. I was really only trying to explain why I couldn't this time.

As to the other stuff, I didn't know the stuff in that article was a lie or inflammatory. I don't read everything there is to read with this case. I honestly don't know that much about Mr. Kronk's history.

I apologize to everyone here for posting what I did earlier today. No offense to anyone was intended.

Re: your comment about my nickname, I have no idea what you're trying to say about it, but I don't care to give an explanation for why I chose the name I did.

[javahog]

Okay, so here's my considered take on this:

Casey was holding the remains until the parents handed over videos and photos to sell. After George had his break, Cindy ante'd them up. Casey gave rights to the remains to the 'rents. They decided to do whatever they wanted once they had her. Casey is po'd and made Jose make the statement.

What do you think?

[Native Alien]

Okay, so here's my considered take on this:

Casey was holding the remains until the parents handed over videos and photos to sell. After George had his break, Cindy ante'd them up. Casey gave rights to the remains to the 'rents. They decided to do whatever they wanted once they had her. Casey is po'd and made Jose make the statement.

What do you think?

I think that you are spot on. I believe that is exactly how it happened and that is how Bozo got his hands on the pictures and videos.

[javahog]

I think that you are spot on. I believe that is exactly how it happened and that is how Bozo got his hands on the pictures and videos.

I wonder if this break could be a sign of bigger things to come. What does Casey have left that they want or need? The fact she went public like this...shouldn't she be worried about making them mad, since they are virtually the only supporters she has? Or...has she lost that support too and she knows it? hmmmn

[lorettalockhorn]

Okay, so here's my considered take on this:

Casey was holding the remains until the parents handed over videos and photos to sell. After George had his break, Cindy ante'd them up. Casey gave rights to the remains to the 'rents. They decided to do whatever they wanted once they had her. Casey is po'd and made Jose make the statement.

What do you think?

I'm not sure what to think about any of it, BUT I'm going to force myself to believe that since so many people outside the Anthony family prayed and actually searched for Caylee, it's great that they will have a place to physically come together to mourn and/or celebrate her.

Don't know what to think about the brouhaha between Casey's wishes and what Cindy is putting on at the church. Even if Caylee has been cremated, there can still be a casket, and still be a headstone. (As for Casey ever getting to see it, that remains to be seen.) It looks to me like if Casey owns Caylee's remains that G&C would be legally bound to follow Casey's wishes for the funeral. Maybe not. So it just turns into another issue to fight about. In public, no less.

"Only those with the purest of hearts"...... That's gonna have to be one helluva powerful screening device that D Casey wheels out for people to walk through before they get into the church.

[javahog]

I'm not sure what to think about any of it, BUT I'm going to force myself to believe that since so many people outside the Anthony family prayed and actually searched for Caylee, it's great that they will have a place to physically come together to mourn and/or celebrate her.

Don't know what to think about the brouhaha between Casey's wishes and what Cindy is putting on at the church. Even if Caylee has been cremated, there can still be a casket, and still be a headstone. (As for Casey ever getting to see it, that remains to be seen.) It looks to me like if Casey owns Caylee's remains that G&C would be legally bound to follow Casey's wishes for the funeral. Maybe not. So it just turns into another issue to fight about. In public, no less.

"Only those with the purest of hearts"...... That's gonna have to be one helluva powerful screening device that D Casey wheels out for people to walk through before they get into the church.

I guess only Sir Lancelot will be getting in. But I gotta say, If Casey doesn't like it, go for it! After this statement, I kind of wonder what will happen tomorrow. I personally would blow, but I have quite the little temper.

And as far as how Cindy and George plan to lay her to rest, at least they haven't considered a Hefty bag, it would seem.

[javahog]

"I miss Caylee every day and every minute of every day. I can't be there for Caylee's funeral but some day I want to go and visit her grave and tell her how much I miss her.
I allowed my parents to be in charge of the funeral for Caylee, I told them that I wanted her buried in a casket and I wanted there to be a grave stone so I can go and visit her. I asked them if there could only be a private funeral for just the family. I know they cremated her. I still don't want a public event with cameras and everybody around for Caylee's service. But I can't stop my parents from doing what they want. I truly hope that it will help them."

There is no 'I' in 'dead baby'.

[mandi3020]

"I" "I" "I".....notice how many "I" statements are in Casey's press release. That's because she views her little girl's memorial as all about her (Casey.) And what about her statement (paraphrasing here) that she didn't want a public event with camera's and everybody around for Caylee's service. She's even jealous of the attention that Caylee is getting in death. I bet she burned up with resentment whenever she was around Caylee. Nothing else has opened her parents eyes, hopefully the statement she issued will and they'll finally accept what happened to their granddaughter and work to get justice for her. jmo.

And I can't get to the last two pages of this thread.Hopefully there's nothing there I"m missing :confused:

[Gatordog]

LP is holding a memorial where the body was found at 10 am. Is that when you'll be there? I wonder if the sunflowers are sprouting yet...too cold still?

Unfortunately I will have to attend a meeting at that time but I will go at lunchtime to leave flowers and ballons from the forum.

It has been too cold and not enough rain for sprouting.

Gator

[lorettalockhorn]

I guess only Sir Lancelot will be getting in. But I gotta say, If Casey doesn't like it, go for it! After this statement, I kind of wonder what will happen tomorrow. I personally would blow, but I have quite the little temper.

And as far as how Cindy and George plan to lay her to rest, at least they haven't considered a Hefty bag, it would seem.

Are you sure Casey didn't use a Glad Bag? She sure looked glad in those Fusion pix.

[lorettalockhorn]

Unfortunately I will have to attend a meeting at that time but I will go at lunchtime to leave flowers and ballons from the forum.

It has been too cold and not enough rain for sprouting.

Gator

Thanks Gator!

[Gatordog]

Okay, so here's my considered take on this:

Casey was holding the remains until the parents handed over videos and photos to sell. After George had his break, Cindy ante'd them up. Casey gave rights to the remains to the 'rents. They decided to do whatever they wanted once they had her. Casey is po'd and made Jose make the statement.

What do you think?

Java, sounds logical to me.

I also wonder if the remains were cremated to keep Casey from having access to the bones in the future. Who knows what she would do for the right price. :shrug: jmo

gator

[javahog]

Java, sounds logical to me.

I also wonder if the remains were cremated to keep Casey from having access to the bones in the future. Who knows what she would do for the right price. :shrug: jmo

gator

Selling relics? Yeah, I can see even that.

Thanks for going out there!

[javahog]

I wonder if they already held the private memorial.

If they were picking out jewelry, I bet the service and the cremation were supposed to be by the next day. Probably why George snapped.

[Gatordog]

It does sound logical.....

Obviously, Tot Mom has not spoken to her parents, or even written back & Forth. Brad Conway is saying cremation hasn't even been done. Lots of bad undercurrents going on there. You can almost feel it through the fricken tv.

Maybe George's psych is helping these poor people. Whew.

http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-basic/jawdrop.gif (http://www.freesmileys.org)

[lorettalockhorn]

NG's undying support of Cindy sickens me. Yes, I understand that she's coming from the perspective of a crime victim herself. BUT calling that eulogy heartfelt when it would have been better to not mention it; sorry, it reminds me of her pure heart/best intentions comment. Gee, Cin. Keep that in mind the next time you're giving a statement to LE or a deposition. And Cindy always had Casey's best interests at heart. Yeah right. That's why she got Casey the help she desperately needed the minute her sociopathy reared its ugly head.

PUHLEEZ

[lorettalockhorn]

It does sound logical.....

Obviously, Tot Mom has not spoken to her parents, or even written back & Forth. Brad Conway is saying cremation hasn't even been done. Lots of bad undercurrents going on there. You can almost feel it through the fricken tv.

Maybe George's psych is helping these poor people. Whew.

Probably some out and out lies too. I don't think George's psych is putting in any overtime.

[lorettalockhorn]

You know, not for anything, but NG has been beating the livin crap out of Richard Herman for the past 6 months.......

Now that he has leukemia, she's saying 'get well friend' ~ what, so he can come back and she can beat him up some more? :rolleyes:

He is in for the fight of his life. Prayers for Richard H........ :rose: I wish leuk/cancer on no one. Sad.


BTW ~ It's WRONG WRONG WRONG for NG to tell LP he is wrong to have a memorial/gathering for Caylee. To berate him on national tv about that.....uh uh. Talk about talking out of the side of your mouth!

Just saw that about Richard Herman, God bless him. Of course she beats him up. He's a criminal defense attorney. Makes you wonder how she treats her own attorney in the Duckett case. :rolleyes:

[javahog]

Just saw that about Richard Herman, God bless him. Of course she beats him up. He's a criminal defense attorney. Makes you wonder how she treats her own attorney in the Duckett case. :rolleyes:

She must feel very conflicted

[lorettalockhorn]

Okay, NG just covered my question about Casey's wishes, and according to Susan Moss and Jason What'sHisName, G&C weren't legally obligated to carry out Casey's wishes re: cremation.

[Justice Denied?]

Probably some out and out lies too. I don't think George's psych is putting in any overtime.

I read somewhere yesterday (no, i don't remember where) that George went home AMA and was receiving no further treatment. Probably just gossip but it's out there.

[javahog]

Okay, NG just covered my question about Casey's wishes, and according to Susan Moss and Jason What'sHisName, G&C weren't legally obligated to carry out Casey's wishes re: cremation.

And they didn't...Oh, Casey needs her work clothes? Enjoy the Death Pants Blazer, Casey! Oh, and the little bracelet, too, in case you are too self-absorbed to notice the blazer.Oh, Mom is holding a public memorial? Well try this for peeing in your oatmeal! Jose is holding a presser and blaming you for all the wrongs done to me!

They've turned on each other...and I swear I am not making myself crazy, lol!

[lorettalockhorn]

I read somewhere yesterday (no, i don't remember where) that George went home AMA and was receiving no further treatment. Probably just gossip but it's out there.

I've wondered that, but pooh poohed the idea simply because he didn't sign himself out after the Baker Act period was up. I suppose it's possible that he was pressured to come home.

[deputydi]

I had no idea of the zani, Xanax connection either. Maybe us more "seasoned" folks aren't in the know about that.

Gator
I am ROFLMAO. I must be "seasoned" too. Before this case I had never heard the name "Zani" or "Zenaida" whether referring to a drug or a person. Gosh I must be old.

[lorettalockhorn]

And they didn't...Oh, Casey needs her work clothes? Enjoy the Death Pants Blazer, Casey! Oh, and the little bracelet, too, in case you are too self-absorbed to notice the blazer.Oh, Mom is holding a public memorial? Well try this for peeing in your oatmeal! Jose is holding a presser and blaming you for all the wrongs done to me!

They've turned on each other...and I swear I am not making myself crazy, lol!

Nanny nanny boo boo!

[Amy]

I finally found the info on when Casey was shown the picture(s) of Zenaida(s). It looks like it happened at or around the same time she was interviewed at Universal. A detective showed her pictures of all the Zenaida Gonzalez's in the state's drivers license and info database. She didn't recognize any of them. Photos of the Zenaida from Sawgrass were specifically pulled up. Casey said she didn't recognize her and said, "she's too old."

That info, along with the info on Zenaida giving her statement, can be found on page 15 of the timeline document. Here's the link.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/orange/orl-casey-anthony-interviews,0,100606.htmlpage

It looks to me like Morgan's ZFG and Casey both said they didn't recognize the other on the exactly the same day, one right after the other, not that it makes any difference. LOL.

So, if Casey has already said Morgan's ZFG is not "the" ZFG, why does he need her to say it again?

The police have said Casey didn't recognize her, and that is in the investigative reports, and Cindy says Casey didn't recognize her because she is not Casey's ZFG. I don't know, maybe the report isn't enough, they want it in Casey's voice, or in her handwriting?

[javahog]

Nanny nanny boo boo!

So...details aside...wth was Jose Baez trying to accomplish with this presentation? Make us feel sorry for Casey? Outraged at her lack of control? Poison the jury pool by further inflaming them against her?

Really, I don't know what other attorney would have simply not done this...it was weird.

[Amy]

LMAO! That is so, so true about Casey! IMO, of course. ;)

Thanks for giving me your thoughts about Zenaida. I completely understand what you're saying, but after reading all the stuff I did the last couple of days, I really do believe Morgan's Zenaida showing up at Sawgrass was just complete coincidence. I don't think Casey ever saw her or knew she was there. Futhermore, IIRC, the manager of Sawgrass Apts said she didn't recognize Casey or Caylee. That, to me, means Casey had not been to the managers office, meaning there is no way she could have seen Morgan's ZFG's guest card.

I have a few things to do this morning, but here are some things I think are worth remembering where Zenaida Gonzalez is concerned.

- Morgan's ZFG was not the only Zenaida Gonzalez police interviewed. They also interviewed at least one other one. Her name, IIRC, is Zenaida Gonzalez Rosario. She works, I think, at the USPS. The police spoke with her at work, showing her pictures of Casey and Caylee, just as they did with Morgan's ZFG.

- In Casey's "original" story, the one police were going on when they interviewed Morgan's ZFG, Zanny had no children, a mother named Gloria and a sister named Samantha. Morgan's ZFG said she doesn't have a sister named Samantha and we know she has at least four children (and some grandkids too!).

- We do not know for certain where the "Fernandez" part of Morgan's ZFG comes from yet. Lots of people seem to think it's from her child's fathers name. My only question on that is if she wasn't married to her child's father, would she be able to use his name? FWIW, I have NO idea if she was or not, nor do I know if all of her children are from the same father. That is something she never mentioned in the parts of the interview I heard.

- We know Morgan's ZFG only signed her name as ZG on her police affidavit. Again, in her original story, Casey stated Zenaida's full name was Zenaida Fernandez-Gonzalez. She mentioned the "hypen" part of her name on more than one occasion. LOL.

- Morgan's ZFG has a job waiting for her at the company she was fired from when all of this is over. I have never been fired, but I have never known anyone who was welcome to take their old job back at some point in the future after they've been fired. Have any of you?

- In the interview with Sean, Morgan's ZFG said that all she wants is for her name to be cleared. Well, I can't imagine the name ZG ever not being a well-known name, thanks to Casey. But here is the thing. It isn't just Morgan's ZFG's name. There are other people with the same name. IOW, it isn't just her that has been hurt by it. IMO, anyone with the first name of Zenaida has been. That part of the name, IMO, is what people will always remember.

- Although the name Zenaida name may never be cleared, she, Morgan's ZFG, along with at least one other ZG, has been cleared by police as having no involvement. Shouldn't that be enough?

- If Morgan's ZFG uses a cell phone, how did people get her number to call & harass her?

- If Morgan's ZFG was looking for an apartment in June and living in a hotel at the time she gave her statement to police, when was she evicted from her home?

Those are all things I can think of right now that stick out for me. Doesn't anyone else find any of it strange?

ETA: One last thing. On the guest card, doesn't it look like there is another letter, as in possibly an initial, before Zenaida's first name?

I have had many of the same questions, and have not heard of nor figured out answers for them.

[deputydi]

"I miss Caylee every day and every minute of every day. I can't be there for Caylee's funeral but some day I want to go and visit her grave and tell her how much I miss her.
I allowed my parents to be in charge of the funeral for Caylee, I told them that I wanted her buried in a casket and I wanted there to be a grave stone so I can go and visit her. I asked them if there could only be a private funeral for just the family. I know they cremated her. I still don't want a public event with cameras and everybody around for Caylee's service. But I can't stop my parents from doing what they want. I truly hope that it will help them."

There is no 'I' in 'dead baby'.
Kind of like that self-centerd woman who had the litter. I watched part of her Today interview this morning and tried to count the number of times she said "I wanted . . ." I gave up trying.

[javahog]

The police have said Casey didn't recognize her, and that is in the investigative reports, and Cindy says Casey didn't recognize her because she is not Casey's ZFG. I don't know, maybe the report isn't enough, they want it in Casey's voice, or in her handwriting?

Personally, I think they want her to say it under oath, then prove that too many details are the same for it to NOT be THE Zenaida. Then she's impeached and they nail her.

[javahog]

Kind of like that self-centerd woman who had the litter. I watched part of her Today interview this morning and tried to count the number of times she said "I wanted . . ." I gave up trying.

That's funny-the resemblance flashed in my head, too. One wants an endless number, the other chose to have none...but same source, imo.

[javahog]

Night all! Time to slop the hogs, erp, I mean the hubby...but it'll still be slop with my "skills"!

[lorettalockhorn]

The police have said Casey didn't recognize her, and that is in the investigative reports, and Cindy says Casey didn't recognize her because she is not Casey's ZFG. I don't know, maybe the report isn't enough, they want it in Casey's voice, or in her handwriting?

I think it's an opportunity for Zenaida to face her, to see Casey take an oath, and to have an opportunity for Casey's defense to explain away the circumstances that did point to her ZFG being Morgan's ZFG.

[lorettalockhorn]

So...details aside...wth was Jose Baez trying to accomplish with this presentation? Make us feel sorry for Casey? Outraged at her lack of control? Poison the jury pool by further inflaming them against her?

Really, I don't know what other attorney would have simply not done this...it was weird.

I'll go with inflame the public. Period. Casey has time to air her family's dysfunction in public but doesn't have time to thank the people who got off their butts and looked for Caylee in horrible conditions. She has time to air her family's dirty laundry in public but not time to write a eulogy for the child that she misses every day and every minute of every day.

I don't understand why Jose would think this was anything but ill-advised. But like a good employee, he kowtowed to the wishes of his CEO.

[Amy]

okay 454 is off limits now. I have been away too long. Who is Sean and wasn't there a car accident that was really wierd in June or July involving Casey? the memory is going........... sara

IIRC, it was Amy who actually had a car accident. Casey was to go to Jacksonville? with her to get a new car, but that is when Casey said she couldn't go cuz George was in hospital because of a heart attack (which, of course, was not true.)

Of course, @ some point, Zanny the Nanny was the one in an accident, and Casey was there @ the hospital w/her.

[Amy]

Thanks for the link Twinners. The story goes to this link when you click read more: http://toiletbowlmedia.com/cayleetips.html

Quote:
Source confirms he saw Casey Anthony and Roy Kronk together on a casino cruise
line ship in 2007. [verified] [Update] > Tipster is former Sterling Casino Cruise Line
employee who states he can place Casey Anthony, Lee Anthony and Roy Kronk on
one of the ships at the same time in 2007. Actually sitting and talking at the same
gambling table. He further states he heard Casey mention getting a tattoo on her
back and the name Zaneida. Tipster is reporting his information to Law Enforcement.

Two possible sightings of Caylee in airports with similar woman, possibly Crystal
Kronk, "Meter Reader's" ex-wife. [pending investigation]

Sources close to the investigation reveal Kronk being photographed in mysterious
vehicle at the crime scene where the body was found in September. [pending
investigation]

Kronk is said to have been staying with his supervisor or his ex-wife just houses
down from the Anthony's before and after Caylee's disappearance.

I have a hard time believing this. jmo :o

Sounds like a crock of bs, to me.

[lighthousedazy]

And they didn't...Oh, Casey needs her work clothes? Enjoy the Death Pants Blazer, Casey! Oh, and the little bracelet, too, in case you are too self-absorbed to notice the blazer.Oh, Mom is holding a public memorial? Well try this for peeing in your oatmeal! Jose is holding a presser and blaming you for all the wrongs done to me!

They've turned on each other...and I swear I am not making myself crazy, lol!
Speaking of the blazer, QVC was showing one earlier tonight that was made identically to the one Caysee wore to court, and they also had the matching pants. This suit was a darker grey, but I got such an eery feeling when I saw it. :shrug: jmo

Regarding Caysee's statement about the memorial, she is jealous that the attention is on Caylee and not her. jmo She is a pathetic soul.

[Gatordog]

Tomorrow between 12 and 12:30 I will be putting purple and pink balloons along with flowers. For those of you releasing balloons it will be symbolic of them finding their way to her. I'll take pictures at the memorial site. I won't be going to the church.

Gator

[Amy]

It doesn't look any worse than not turning over Caylee for a proper burial yet. I have to wonder if they decided to go ahead with the public service now in order to get people to stop asking for the defense to turn over the remains. Maybe they think people will think it's been done.

Gator

In the statement Baez was reading, he read "I know she has been cremated." Well, there isn't a lot of forensic or genetic or any other information the defense is going to get from the ASHES. She wants Caylee to be in a casket, even tho she has been cremated. So, it sounds like there is no reason for her not to be released---and, heck, all these lawyers and their pc's and Casey wants to go to the funeral, changed to she wants to view the tape of the memorial, Caylee could have been released days or weeks ago, and the family could have already had the private funeral, they just didn't want the world to know.

I can't believe her remains would actually be @ the MEMORIAL--where generally there is no casket, etc. But, with this being so high profile, and even if they have heavy security, who is to say some whacko job might not just grab her and run? Some whacko-jobs don't look whacko, and could certainly gain entry.

[lighthousedazy]

So...details aside...wth was Jose Baez trying to accomplish with this presentation? Make us feel sorry for Casey? Outraged at her lack of control? Poison the jury pool by further inflaming them against her?

Really, I don't know what other attorney would have simply not done this...it was weird.Jose should have counted all the "I" s in her statement.

[Gatordog]

Just saw that about Richard Herman, God bless him. Of course she beats him up. He's a criminal defense attorney. Makes you wonder how she treats her own attorney in the Duckett case. :rolleyes:

There is a high level of people who have been on the show who are fighting Leukemia. :shrug: I may not agree with him, but I wish him well.

Gator

[Amy]

I guess only Sir Lancelot will be getting in. But I gotta say, If Casey doesn't like it, go for it! After this statement, I kind of wonder what will happen tomorrow. I personally would blow, but I have quite the little temper.

And as far as how Cindy and George plan to lay her to rest, at least they haven't considered a Hefty bag, it would seem.

I'd rather go to LP's memorial, @ least it sounds like there would be less chance for dramatics and arguments. Wonder how it would be if more people showed up there than @ the church?

[lighthousedazy]

Is it just me, but I am having a problem with the cremation. I can understand the family wanting her to rest in peace. But if there is ever any reason they would have to get more dna or testing, even though she is skeletonized, they can get dna, and maybe some other testing from the bone marrow. (I think). Caysee is such a hypocrite when she says she wants a casket and headstone. She disposed her like garbage in a bag...:mad: jmo

[Amy]

You know, not for anything, but NG has been beating the livin crap out of Richard Herman for the past 6 months.......

Now that he has leukemia, she's saying 'get well friend' ~ what, so he can come back and she can beat him up some more? :rolleyes:

He is in for the fight of his life. Prayers for Richard H........ :rose: I wish leuk/cancer on no one. Sad.


BTW ~ It's WRONG WRONG WRONG for NG to tell LP he is wrong to have a memorial/gathering for Caylee. To berate him on national tv about that.....uh uh. Talk about talking out of the side of your mouth!

I've been thinking all along, with all the fighting and who has the remains, and who has the legal rights and on and on and......that someone should just step up to the plate and announce a public memorial service. I think people who would have done this were respectfully waiting for the A's to follow thru w/their plans, but they just kept delaying.

Anyway, ANYONE can have a memorial service for ANYONE. LP @ least held several searches for Caylee. He has devoted more time to this case than NG in her hour-long show 5 times a week (and a guest host during some of those shows over the months.) It seems to me that people that searched for Caylee, or like Mr Grund, babysat for Caylee, people who are "prohibited" from attending the public memorial, they can hold their own memorial for Caylee.

[lighthousedazy]

Me too. All the talk died down and I thought that passed. My huband said 'use the donated money and put her in a mausoleum if they're afraid of grave robbers ':rolleyes:. They probably would never have needed to open her crypt anyway ... If they haven't ripped open my girl Marilyn Monroe's mausoleum, Caylee's wouldn't be either.
I just thought also even if Caylee was cremated, I don't think the duct tape and hair would be. That would be saved for forensic evidence. I think the hair tells all. They can even tell if you are an alcoholic from your hair. jmo

[Native Alien]

I am wondering if maybe the cremation is what sent George off the deep end. That they did cremate her remains and then once they got home he just couldn't handle it anymore.

I am going on the assumption that the use of the word "had", in the statement that Bozo gave to the press is the correct tense.

If this is all true then that would lead me to believe that I might have been correct along with several other people in that Cindy traded pictures and videos of Caylee to Bozo for selling in order to get the release of the remains for burial.

[alackey]

if you like it comment it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnUXHHCnHDY

[friggie]

The program for today's memorial service:

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/media/acrobat/2009-02/44981044.pdf

[Twinners]

Is it just me, but I am having a problem with the cremation. I can understand the family wanting her to rest in peace. But if there is ever any reason they would have to get more dna or testing, even though she is skeletonized, they can get dna, and maybe some other testing from the bone marrow. (I think). Caysee is such a hypocrite when she says she wants a casket and headstone. She disposed her like garbage in a bag...:mad: jmo

Between the prosecution and the defense, I think little Caylee has probably had all the tests she'll ever need done on her remains. No one in my family has ever been cremated, so I'm not sure how I feel about it. That said, I do think cremating Caylee's remains was a smart move on the Anthony's part, IF that is what they did. IMO, cremating her was the only way they could ever be certain she would be able to finally rest in peace.

For what it's worth, I think the Anthony's were probably more worried about Casey disturbing Caylee's remains for one reason or the other than they were about graverobbers or anyone like that disturbing them. If Caylee's remains were cremated, then I doubt anyone outside of the immediate Anthony family will ever know where they are.

All JMO.

[deacon]

I don't know if anyone has brought this up. Did anyone else notice the silence from casey and cindy while george was in the hospital after his suicide event? Not one word out of either of them. I guess they couldn't make that all about them

[Twinners]

Personally, I think they want her to say it under oath, then prove that too many details are the same for it to NOT be THE Zenaida. Then she's impeached and they nail her.

But after all my reading, I'm not sure what details were the same anymore. I guess that's my problem.

If I understand the official timeline correctly, the police went to Sawgrass Apartments to follow up on what Casey said about last seeing Caylee with her nanny, Zenaida Fernandez-Gonzalez, who lived in Apt 210 at Sawgrass. When they did, they found out that no one had lived in that apartment for quite some time, but that a Zenaida Gonzalez had looked at one in June. After seeing the guest card, they contacted Zenaida and then asked her to give a statement, which she did, I believe, that very day. Again, if I understand the stuff in the timeline document correctly, that was the day Casey was at Universal.

At around the same time Morgan's ZFG gave her statement, Casey was shown pictures of all the ZG's in the police database. She didn't recognize any of them. I believe she was specifically shown a picture of the ZG who had been at Sawgrass looking at the apartments. Casey said it wasn't her, stating that she was too old.

As far as I've seen so far, that was the only time police spoke with the ZG who looked at the Sawgrass Apartment. There was no follow up that I could find, granted it could still be in evidence not yet released.

[Gatordog]

Two reports on Fox 35. There is no link to the clips because they are on the news main page. You can open them up from that page.

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/

[Gatordog]

Uncut Zenaida interview with John Morgan. Explains a lot.

http://www.wftv.com/video/17580338/index.html

[Gatordog]

Casey Anthony note to Sherriff Beary.

http://www.wftv.com/download/2008/0926/17564742.pdf

Gator

[eatcupcakes]

Okay, so here's my considered take on this:

Casey was holding the remains until the parents handed over videos and photos to sell. After George had his break, Cindy ante'd them up. Casey gave rights to the remains to the 'rents. They decided to do whatever they wanted once they had her. Casey is po'd and made Jose make the statement.

What do you think?

:beer:I hope Cindy kept copies of all the pictures.

[Gatordog]

Stop the presses! I sound like NG now. :D

I was reading this police statement from one of the Liar's boyfriends and on page 13 of 25 he tells police he received a text message stating that Caylee has been missing for 32 days. He thinks her brother had her phone and sent the message. :D

http://www.wftv.com/download/2008/0926/17564652.pdf

Gator

[Zingo]

The program for today's memorial service:

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/media/acrobat/2009-02/44981044.pdf

Wow, thanks for posting. That is going to be one tough memorial to get through. It looks like so much tender thought went into it. I am going to record it.

[SaraSidle]

The page thing is because some posts were deleted.

I think that they are talking about Sean Kruase.

The car wreck that you might be referring to is the one that Zannie the Nannie supposedly had while Casey and Caylee, Juilet Lewis and her daughter Annabelle and Zanie were all suppose to be in Tampa staying at the Hard Rock Hotel for an "Event" that supposedly Casey and the non existent Juliet Lewis were working. This was during the time that Casey and Caylee were not staying at the Anthony's house.

thank you Native. too much bizarre things in this case......IMO sara

[eatcupcakes]

Just saw that about Richard Herman, God bless him. Of course she beats him up. He's a criminal defense attorney. Makes you wonder how she treats her own attorney in the Duckett case. :rolleyes:

Let us not forget that her show is still "entertainment" and her viewers like to watch it because they like her attitude. The Defense Attorny's know when they are on her show she is going to be tough on them, it's part of the entertainment. They don't take it as offensive or they would not keep appearing on her show. For Richard Herman:rose: stay strong and get well.

[SaraSidle]

You might be thinking of this one , Sara http://scaredmonkeys.com/2009/01/16/zenaida-gonzalez-annie-leigh-downing’s-excellent-adventure-zannie-and-annie-go-to-traffic-court/

that looks like it might be it Java thanks. another mystery. IMO sara

[Twinners]

Uncut Zenaida interview with John Morgan. Explains a lot.

http://www.wftv.com/video/17580338/index.html

Thanks so much for this Gator! I haven't been able to listen to much of the interview yet, but you are right. It does explain a lot!

I should say that in looking back at the investigative report, I see that investigators met with Zenaida. It didn't specifically say she came in to give her statement. Not sure, but I think I may have said she did in an earlier post. If I did, that was wrong.

One thing real quick.

In the interview you gave the link to, Zenaida says the police asked her about her kids. They apparently had the two girls names. Zenaida seems to be under the impression that they got her daughter's names from Casey. I don't think they did. I think they got them from her guest card at Sawgrass because at the time they called her, Casey's story was that Caylee's nanny did not have any children at all.

For what it's worth, Zenaida does have six kids. I guess only two of them live with her. Since she has grandkid's, I'm going to guess the other four are grown.

[Gatordog]

gator, which station is best? (clickorlando.com coverage starts now)
wesh? wftv? myorlando?

TIA!

WFTV has Kathi Belich who is a pretty good reporter and up to date on all the facts. Myfoxorlando.com is also good.

Gator

[Zingo]

Thanks so much for this Gator! I haven't been able to listen to much of the interview yet, but you are right. It does explain a lot!

I should say that in looking back at the investigative report, I see that investigators met with Zenaida. It didn't specifically say she came in to give her statement. Not sure, but I think I may have said she did in an earlier post. If I did, that was wrong.

One thing real quick.

In the interview you gave the link to, Zenaida says the police asked her about her kids. They apparently had the two girls names. Zenaida seems to be under the impression that they got her daughter's names from Casey. I don't think they did. I think they got them from her guest card at Sawgrass because at the time they called her, Casey's story was that Caylee's nanny did not have any children at all.

For what it's worth, Zenaida does have six kids. I guess only two of them live with her. Since she has grandkid's, I'm going to guess the other four are grown.

Yes, that was the part of the interview where I wish the reporter would have connected the dots a bit more. Both ZG and her attorney implied that the police knew the details about ZG from Casey, but as you point out, they more likely got them from the Sawgrass manager. I recall reading this is the documents, in fact.

But didn't Casey say that ZG drove a silver Ford Focus? So, that statement could be directly linked to THIS ZG, if it is true.

Do we know what car ZG drives?

[SaraSidle]

IIRC, it was Amy who actually had a car accident. Casey was to go to Jacksonville? with her to get a new car, but that is when Casey said she couldn't go cuz George was in hospital because of a heart attack (which, of course, was not true.)

Of course, @ some point, Zanny the Nanny was the one in an accident, and Casey was there @ the hospital w/her.

thank you Amy. what a mess. IMO sara

[Zingo]

I'm watching the memorial right now.

Wow, Kyle Thomas!

I want to buy one of his CDs if he has one.

He used to be in the Orlando jail where Casey now is.

Wow!

[javahog]

Well, Lee lost it. I wonder if his message about conscience and truth was directed at Casey?

[Gatordog]

Lee Anthony - talking to CMA - was that Caylee Marie Anthony or Casey Marie Anthony. I think it was Casey. JMO.

Gator

[javahog]

Lee Anthony - talking to CMA - was that Caylee Marie Anthony or Casey Marie Anthony. I think it was Casey. JMO.

Gator

Yeah, but he was kissing the bracelet...but yeah, could go for either or both.

[javahog]

George, you do not want me to write Casey a letter. Trust me.

[shadydaisy]

Well, Lee lost it. I wonder if his message about conscience and truth was directed at Casey?

What happened? I'm in the office - can't watch anything! Brief report - anything!

[Zingo]

What happened? I'm in the office - can't watch anything! Brief report - anything!

Well, Lee, once again, slipped into "code" mode. I thought his repeated reference to "CMA" "CMA" was definitely speaking to Casey, but in a weird way. He did make reference to the "person" who has answers his family seeks, to let their conscience speak.

George was the most intelligent and coherent so far. I'm watching a recording so I'm a bit behind.

Go George!

[Zingo]

Cindy is trying to interrupt and control George. She was trying to get his attention when he was reading something on the podium. She was attempting to move his hand.

Now George is tocking about a locket with "My Caylee" on it. I wonder if that's the jewelry he bought reportedly the day he went suicidal.

SpongeBob Squarepants rocks!

Cindy just needs to let George talk. She's butting in to his talk.

[javahog]

What happened? I'm in the office - can't watch anything! Brief report - anything!

Just red-eyed, crying, really upset. He was a little "about me" saying how hard it was to be a "pillar of strength" but started crying, kissing his Caylee bracelet and saying how long it had been since he'd seen "CMA" and how much he missed her...George went on a long time, all about Caylee...stories anecdotes etc. But he did say he missed Casey too, asked people not to judge her and send her letters. I missed a lot of Cindy because of local programming, but she told Caylee anecdotes too...

I thought George was most touching, talking about being her JoJo...

PS, CMA could well be Casey/ and he did go on about conscience and the family needing answers and truth. Not clear if he meant from Casey or the roving band of mystery gypsies...

[Native Alien]

Well, Lee, once again, slipped into "code" mode. I thought his repeated reference to "CMA" "CMA" was definitely speaking to Casey, but in a weird way. He did make reference to the "person" who has answers his family seeks, to let their conscience speak.

George was the most intelligent and coherent so far. I'm watching a recording so I'm a bit behind.

Go George!

I have to agree with your assessment Zingo.

Less time spoken of any, and it was definitely the Cindy show as far as I am concerned. Especially when she reached for a mike when they sang Oh how he loves you and me.

Not to mention the I's in her message.

[Zingo]

George: "Casey deserves prayer, understanding, letters." :shrug:

Sorry I'm slow.

[FDInLaw]

Rest in Peace Little One! I can't bear to watch. :(



:rose: :rose: :rose:

[Native Alien]

George, you do not want me to write Casey a letter. Trust me.

I really don't think that he wants me to write her a letter either javahog.

[NMurphy02]

I had to turn my television off. I cannot listen to Cindy go on about Casey it makes me want to kick my television set in. Cindy is acting like she's in a movie and is the star of the production today. The whole family is so self centered they make me sick.

[shadydaisy]

George: "Casey deserves prayer, understanding, letters." :shrug:

Sorry I'm slow.

I'm slower.

Just red-eyed, crying, really upset. He was a little "about me" saying how hard it was to be a "pillar of strength" but started crying, kissing his Caylee bracelet and saying how long it had been since he'd seen "CMA" and how much he missed her...George went on a long time, all about Caylee...stories anecdotes etc. But he did say he missed Casey too, asked people not to judge her and send her letters. I missed a lot of Cindy because of local programming, but she told Caylee anecdotes too...

I thought George was most touching, talking about being her JoJo...

PS, CMA could well be Casey/ and he did go on about conscience and the family needing answers and truth. Not clear if he meant from Casey or the roving band of mystery gypsies...

Oh I can't wait to see some of this tonight! George came though, right?

Thanks to all for the updates!

[RaVeN71806]

This was a beautiful memorial for Caylee...I'm crying as I'm typing this so precious...Lee, George, and Cindy all said wonderful things about Caylee it broke my heart.....I have to get myself together here I'm at work and people at looking at me..*wipes tear's*...:(

[javahog]

The video tribute is on, and they are all watching it except George. He's looking down like he can't bear to watch it.

[Zingo]

I have to agree with your assessment Zingo.

Less time spoken of any, and it was definitely the Cindy show as far as I am concerned. Especially when she reached for a mike when they sang Oh how he loves you and me.

Not to mention the I's in her message.

Cindy looks really good. I'm wondering about the grey blazer. Is she showing solidarity with Casey? Or maybe it's an olive blazer. I can't really tell the color really well.

Cindy is really telling some touching stories about Caylee. I love the story about Caylee wanting to say good night to the stars. :(

[javahog]

I'm slower.



Oh I can't wait to see some of this tonight! George came though, right?

Thanks to all for the updates!

Yeah, George was a trooper. He came off as the one who cared the most to me at least.

[javahog]

So the video tribute is on. What do you want to bet those are the videos Jose is trying to sell...offered for free through the memorial?! They are all ones I have not seen before.

[Sunbug70]

Yeah, George was a trooper. He came off as the one who cared the most to me at least.

I agree. Lee seemed completely cold to me and Cindy seemed as if she was playing a part.

[Zingo]

Cindy is still in total denial. She wants to comfort Casey and take away her "pain." She says Caylee got her compassion from Casey! :confused:

But I can't really blame Cindy.

She says God blessed her with three children. :confused:

She really thought of Caylee as a daughter, obviously.

[Zingo]

Cindy: "We need to stop the negativity."

Um, ok, Cindy. I know this is a tough time for your family. But murders are just a wee bit negative. Especially the murder of a child. Should we just forgive Casey and "stop the trial?"

I truly believe this family is hopelessly torn. They can't give up on Casey or she might as well be dead, too.

[lorettalockhorn]

The video memorial was beautiful as is the music (but what's up with the applause? Is this a Baptist thing?). The anecdotes and personal comments about Caylee are wonderful to hear, but when peppered with the editorials and BS (mostly out of Lee's and Cindy's mouths), they lose their oomph.

If LE and The State suddenly came up with a viable perpetrator in this case would there be the compassion that Lee asked for while he was being the family's "pillar of strength"??

I apologize to y'all for being so cynical, but George seems to be the only one who is beginning to leave denial behind him.

[lorettalockhorn]

Cindy is still in total denial. She wants to comfort Casey and take away her "pain." She says Caylee got her compassion from Casey! :confused:

But I can't really blame Cindy.

She says God blessed her with three children. :confused:

She really thought of Caylee as a daughter, obviously.

Oh, the three children thing. Creepy. And how happy and blessed she felt when The Glowing Casey came to tell her she was pregnant. MEH

[javahog]

The video memorial was beautiful as is the music (but what's up with the applause? Is this a Baptist thing?). The anecdotes and personal comments about Caylee are wonderful to hear, but when peppered with the editorials and BS (mostly out of Lee's and Cindy's mouths), they lose their oomph.

If LE and The State suddenly came up with a viable perpetrator in this case would there be the compassion that Lee asked for while he was being the family's "pillar of strength"??

I apologize to y'all for being so cynical, but George seems to be the only one who is beginning to leave denial behind him.

George is the only one I was really feeling for there. He clearly mourns her so thoroughly I couldn't even hold his plea for Casey against him. His life is hell.

And the applause, oh, the applause...I go to a Baptist affiliated church... when I was a kid, no one applauded. IT WAS CHURCH! Then the children's choir began to get applause-it was just the kids. Then it was only sporadic after a particularly moving "performance". But now, since it tends to be more "concert" music than hymns, there's applause after every "performance".

I find it awkward and disturbing, myself. And from a theological point of view, it turns their "offering" of talent into something they will only be rewarded for on this earth. So there!

[lissyanne1]

I didn't get to see Lee talk. But sorry, I lost the warm and fuzzy feeling I had for George when he begged people to think of Casey and send her letters etc. And Cindy?? I was thoroughly disgusted when she said Caylee was just like Casey with her compassion blah blah blah. How dare they mention that bi&%h at this child's memorial service they turned it into the casey show!

So I guess noone needs to speculate anymore that the family had stop their support of Casey because it is obvious by this that they have not.

I'm starting to believe this whole public memorial service was just a ruse (sp) to gain sympathy for Casey instead of a dedication for Caylee.

I had a feeling that the deal with Cindy sneaking that bracelet to Casey was in no means a dig or a message to her but that she was hoping Casey could wear it so that people will see how much Casey loves Caylee because she's wearing the bracelet.

These people still don't think Casey did anything wrong and even if she confessed they still wouldn't blame her.
Sick

[Zingo]

The video memorial was beautiful as is the music (but what's up with the applause? Is this a Baptist thing?). The anecdotes and personal comments about Caylee are wonderful to hear, but when peppered with the editorials and BS (mostly out of Lee's and Cindy's mouths), they lose their oomph.

If LE and The State suddenly came up with a viable perpetrator in this case would there be the compassion that Lee asked for while he was being the family's "pillar of strength"??

I apologize to y'all for being so cynical, but George seems to be the only one who is beginning to leave denial behind him.

You're completely right on, Loretta. I thought George was the best. Lee = Code. Cindy = Meryl Streep. George = real grieving grandfather speaking from the heart.

Wow, very touching video. :(

[javahog]

Oh, the three children thing. Creepy. And how happy and blessed she felt when The Glowing Casey came to tell her she was pregnant. MEH

A jealous sociopath. Now that is a dangerous combination. I wonder who the "household weapons" and "neck-breaking" was meant for?

[Zingo]

My husband stopped attending a Catholic parish when they started clapping after baptisms. He had to find a more traditional Catholilc service. (I had never seen clapping at any mass before, but this was a very non-traditional parish).

I think the clapping thing has eroded so much reverence in worship. It's as if we're at a performance.

Thank God I'm Mormon. We never clap. Alas, we're not supposed to drink alcohol, either. That's a tough one for me ;)

[Zingo]

A jealous sociopath. Now that is a dangerous combination. I wonder who the "household weapons" and "neck-breaking" was meant for?

These statements just don't ring true from Cindy's talk:

-- Cindy was thrilled when Casey told her she was going to be a grandmother
-- Caylee got her compassion from Casey

[Native Alien]

I agree. Lee seemed completely cold to me and Cindy seemed as if she was playing a part.

I don't think that Lee is cold, I think that he is about to break up or apart because he knows that Casey murdered that child and yet, his mother wants him to carry on like Casey didn't do a wrong thing other than trust the wrong person.

When he says he is broke, I believe that he means it. More broke than he realized until he had to do this memorial.

[Native Alien]

These statements just don't ring true from Cindy's talk:

-- Cindy was thrilled when Casey told her she was going to be a grandmother
-- Caylee got her compassion from Casey

Everything that I have read from other people says that Cindy didn't even acknowledge Casey being pregnant until Casey was at least 7 months.

[Sunbug70]

I'm sure you all noticed how many times Cindy said "unconditional love". I think she is saying she loves Casey even through this. I'm sure it does break her heart that Casey isn't there today, the whole thing is just heart breaking. Casey is still her child no matter what, I can't imagine that love just goes away even in this case. Talk about confused conflicting feelings.

I'm surprising myself because the above sounds like I'm defending Cindy and I'm SO not, just observing and commenting one what she said. Just reading through the lines it sounds like she probably knows the truth, and is saying she can't help but love and have concern for the liar anyway.

[Native Alien]

Kyle's first song was wonderful. It brought the start of the the day to a head, even set the tone for a moment, that is why the applause. Catholics don't usually applaud, amybe some churches do at times like this though. It made me all choked up, then I got over it with all the hype about letters to Casey and that CMA CMA crap.

I did feel for George though.:( and the locket I bet has caylees ashes.)
Cindy is a natural performer.

I don't understand why they would use music by Micheal Jackson for this memorial at all.

[lorettalockhorn]

George is the only one I was really feeling for there. He clearly mourns her so thoroughly I couldn't even hold his plea for Casey against him. His life is hell.

And the applause, oh, the applause...I go to a Baptist affiliated church... when I was a kid, no one applauded. IT WAS CHURCH! Then the children's choir began to get applause-it was just the kids. Then it was only sporadic after a particularly moving "performance". But now, since it tends to be more "concert" music than hymns, there's applause after every "performance".

I find it awkward and disturbing, myself. And from a theological point of view, it turns their "offering" of talent into something they will only be rewarded for on this earth. So there!

Thanks for that perspective. It's offputting.

[Native Alien]

I'm sure you all noticed how many times Cindy said "unconditional love". I think she is saying she loves Casey even through this. I'm sure it does break her heart that Casey isn't there today, the whole thing is just heart breaking. Casey is still her child no matter what, I can't imagine that love just goes away even in this case. Talk about confused conflicting feelings.

I'm surprising myself because the above sounds like I'm defending Cindy and I'm SO not, just observing and commenting one what she said. Just reading through the lines it sounds like she probably knows the truth, and is saying she can't help but love and have concern for the liar anyway.

Anyone that is a parent understands what you mean. But, and this is a big but, there is no way that I could ever lie for one of my daughters. They know it, and I know it. That is where the problem lies with Cindy.

[lissyanne1]

And I about went over the edge when Cindy thanked Casey for giving her the gift of Caylee! And as one of them said what is given can be taken away. ( I din't know if that was Casey or cindy who said that) But I almost puked when Cindy spouted that crap!

I don't feel for Lee, I think he was referring to Casey the whole time, I feel he is still behind something and always felt he was more upset about Casey's situation then Caylees. JMO

[Sunbug70]

I don't think that Lee is cold, I think that he is about to break up or apart because he knows that Casey murdered that child and yet, his mother wants him to carry on like Casey didn't do a wrong thing other than trust the wrong person.

When he says he is broke, I believe that he means it. More broke than he realized until he had to do this memorial.

Oh yes, I agree, he was about to break up. What I meant by cold was that he seems cold as far as this memorial being about Caylee. He apears to me to be most upset about his sister. His feelings seem to lay with her. I don't know.. thats just what I saw. If it were me, I wouldn't be able to focus on anything but that poor little baby on a day like today. I wouldn't have been able to speak at all I guess.

[lorettalockhorn]

I didn't get to see Lee talk. But sorry, I lost the warm and fuzzy feeling I had for George when he begged people to think of Casey and send her letters etc. And Cindy?? I was thoroughly disgusted when she said Caylee was just like Casey with her compassion blah blah blah. How dare they mention that bi&%h at this child's memorial service they turned it into the casey show!

So I guess noone needs to speculate anymore that the family had stop their support of Casey because it is obvious by this that they have not.

I'm starting to believe this whole public memorial service was just a ruse (sp) to gain sympathy for Casey instead of a dedication for Caylee.

I had a feeling that the deal with Cindy sneaking that bracelet to Casey was in no means a dig or a message to her but that she was hoping Casey could wear it so that people will see how much Casey loves Caylee because she's wearing the bracelet.

These people still don't think Casey did anything wrong and even if she confessed they still wouldn't blame her.
Sick

lissyanne, Sick is right. I'm sure we'll get to see Lee over and over ad nauseum. Be sure you watch. UGH

The comparison of Caylee's compassion (which was real AND obvious) to Casey's dishonors Caylee. IMO

Another Cindyism that got to me was about Caylee telling her about her day. Now, Caylee was truly gifted in her language acquisition skills IMO, so there is no reason to believe that she would have never mentioned the nanny or Zani. Which makes Cindy sound all the more FOS when you consider that G&C knew that Casey had no job.

Man, if the Anthonys hadn't been there, and/or hadn't spoken, the service would have served its purpose.

And when JVM said that there was a psychic shift, I think she meant to say psycho shift. WAIT! This bunch has bordered on psycho from the get.

[lorettalockhorn]

My husband stopped attending a Catholic parish when they started clapping after baptisms. He had to find a more traditional service.

I think the clapping thing has eroded so much reverence in worship. It's as if we're at a performance.

Thank God I'm Mormon. We never clap. Alas, we're not supposed to drink alcohol, either. That's a tough one for me ;)

Come on over to the Presbyterian church! We border on uber-reverence. (That last preacher caught a lot of flak for delivering the sermon out of the pulpit.) We celebrate Pentecost without being Pentecostal. And drinking alcohol only comes up when it's in excess.

[Twinners]

I'm sure you all noticed how many times Cindy said "unconditional love". I think she is saying she loves Casey even through this. I'm sure it does break her heart that Casey isn't there today, the whole thing is just heart breaking. Casey is still her child no matter what, I can't imagine that love just goes away even in this case. Talk about confused conflicting feelings.

I'm surprising myself because the above sounds like I'm defending Cindy and I'm SO not, just observing and commenting one what she said. Just reading through the lines it sounds like she probably knows the truth, and is saying she can't help but love and have concern for the liar anyway.

Great post! That is how I feel too. I think Cindy knows the truth, but she loves her child in spite of it. I have to admit, I lost it when she said, "my child".

I thought the service was beautiful for the most part. I think the distance between Casey and her family seemed very evident, as well. I think she probably saw today, and really everything her family has done since Caylee has been gone, as more evidence that they only love Caylee, or at the very least, love Caylee more than they love her. I think her family's love for Caylee is the reason Casey can't seem to stand them. I think that bothers the Anthony's more than they could ever say.

[Zingo]

Kyle's first song was wonderful. It brought the start of the the day to a head, even set the tone for a moment, that is why the applause. Catholics don't usually applaud, maybe some churches do at times like this though. It made me all choked up, then I got over it with all the hype about letters to Casey and that CMA CMA crap.

I did feel for George though.:( and the locket I bet has caylees ashes.)
Cindy is a natural performer.

This was like a show...........I would have preferred 2 hours of caylee videos and pics thank you

I loved Kyle Thomas. THAT guy should have a CD out. I would buy it in a heartbeat. His voice is incredible.

Oh, and what was Lee trying to say with that CMA crap? It was a slap in the face to Caylee, trying to send code messages to the "mother" her killed her. Lee said he would never forget the promise he made to CMA. Um, ok, Lee, we usually don't make promises to two-year-olds. Or was he indeed talking about Caylee? Maybe he made a promise to her that he would seek justice for murder.

[lorettalockhorn]

I'm sure you all noticed how many times Cindy said "unconditional love". I think she is saying she loves Casey even through this. I'm sure it does break her heart that Casey isn't there today, the whole thing is just heart breaking. Casey is still her child no matter what, I can't imagine that love just goes away even in this case. Talk about confused conflicting feelings.

I'm surprising myself because the above sounds like I'm defending Cindy and I'm SO not, just observing and commenting one what she said. Just reading through the lines it sounds like she probably knows the truth, and is saying she can't help but love and have concern for the liar anyway.

Nothing wrong with unconditional love; it's the Christian ideal. But she can love and support Casey while insisting on The Truth from her. IMO it's the only way to honor Caylee.

[Sunbug70]

Nothing wrong with unconditional love; it's the Christian ideal. But she can love and support Casey while insisting on The Truth from her. IMO it's the only way to honor Caylee.

Oh I agree completely. I think she is just really having a hard time coming to that conclusion.

For me, this was the first time I noticed her displaying any kind of public doubt in her daughter. :shrug: I don't know... just my observation.

[lissyanne1]

Nothing wrong with unconditional love; it's the Christian ideal. But she can love and support Casey while insisting on The Truth from her. IMO it's the only way to honor Caylee.

ITA, and you also can be unconditional without turning the service that was supposed to be all about Caylee and her day into an opportunity to gain sympathy for Casey. This was Caylee's only day. Casey will have plenty of her own and all the attention can be on her when she is on trial.

[Native Alien]

Nothing wrong with unconditional love; it's the Christian ideal. But she can love and support Casey while insisting on The Truth from her. IMO it's the only way to honor Caylee.

I agree

[lorettalockhorn]

ITA, and you also can be unconditional without turning the service that was supposed to be all about Caylee and her day into an opportunity to gain sympathy for Casey. This was Caylee's only day. Casey will have plenty of her own and all the attention can be on her when she is on trial.

So much for the "pure of heart" stipulation.

[lissyanne1]

Also, it would be alot easier for me to unconditionally love my child if the woman could have shown the tiniest speck of remorse for her child regardless if it were an accident or not, but to look like she had any regret or empathy for her own baby.

[Zingo]

It's rather ironic that Casey wanted a "private" memorial.

If you want to keep things private, as a rule, don't murder your child.

But that's exactly what Casey attempted to do ... keep things private. She didn't think anyone would notice that eventually Caylee never materialized with "the nanny."

She left her daughter double-bagged 15 blocks from her home, and didn't seem to think Caylee would actually be found.

She's living in her little dream world ...

[Sunbug70]

The whole thing is such a mess. IMO all three (Lee, GA & CA) all knew from the get go what had happened. Coming to terms with that in their hearts must be a very difficult thing to do, doing it publicly must be even harder. I think Cindy is not and was not ever entirely stable, it's taking her the longest. Lee is covering for his sister and that's that. And George is just lost. He knows, he knew from the minute he smelled that car. He has Cindy to deal with which must be impossibly difficult.

When push comes to shove at the trial, I think George will ultimately tell the truth. Cindy and Lee, never.

[Sunbug70]

Now this little 5 year old Haylee Cummings, disappearing from her bedroom last night.there is an amber alert out in Putnam Cty, Florida.

Geez, what the hell is going on in Florida folks?! This world is broken.:(

Hadn't heard about her yet. :(

And Florida... don't get me started, used to live there, left as soon as I could, nuff said.

[Zingo]

LORETTA!! Are you one of them.....ummmmmmmm......Holy Rollers???!!

LOLLOLOLOL

I can see ya there singing, clapping hands ,with that big old hat, lipstick and hair Loretta!! (peeing my pants)

<3 Stolie in your pocket, huh?

Actually, OS, wasn't Loretta saying just the opposite? Her church is very dignified, seemed like what she wrote, IMHO.

I like dignified churches, but my hubby has to worship at a church that looks like it's out of the 5th Century. Dark, drafty, gothic arches, hard wood benches, cement or tile floors, echo, Latin mass, etc.

I like comfortable 21st Century buildings that are dignified in worship.

But to each his own.

So much is what we grow up with -- that's "normal" to us.

[deacon]

I think that all of us worship in different ways. It was meant to be that way, IMO. Some think that the clapping is for the one giving the performance and some see it as honoring the God who gave the talent. Most performers that I know would rather not have people clap for the performance God gave them the talent to give because people see it as taking credit for a talent they were given freely and chose to use to honor Him. As a one time actor and singer, I would simply raise my hand and point toward the One who gave me the ability to sing or act. Please, don't read too much into it. I guess that would make me Bapticostal?

[NMurphy02]

I didn't get to see Lee talk. But sorry, I lost the warm and fuzzy feeling I had for George when he begged people to think of Casey and send her letters etc. And Cindy?? I was thoroughly disgusted when she said Caylee was just like Casey with her compassion blah blah blah. How dare they mention that bi&%h at this child's memorial service they turned it into the casey show!

So I guess noone needs to speculate anymore that the family had stop their support of Casey because it is obvious by this that they have not.

I'm starting to believe this whole public memorial service was just a ruse (sp) to gain sympathy for Casey instead of a dedication for Caylee.

I had a feeling that the deal with Cindy sneaking that bracelet to Casey was in no means a dig or a message to her but that she was hoping Casey could wear it so that people will see how much Casey loves Caylee because she's wearing the bracelet.

These people still don't think Casey did anything wrong and even if she confessed they still wouldn't blame her.
Sick

I was disgusted with this memorial and I couldn't really figure out why, well other then the constant Casey love which makes me want to vomit. But I think you nailed it perfectly. All of this was to spew a bunch of cr*p about their beloved psycho daughter.

[lorettalockhorn]

LORETTA!! Are you one of them.....ummmmmmmm......Holy Rollers???!!

LOLLOLOLOL

I can see ya there singing, clapping hands ,with that big old hat, lipstick and hair Loretta!! (peeing my pants)

<3 Stolie in your pocket, huh?

Hayell no! That's why I love the Presbyterian Church. We have very dignified services.

[lorettalockhorn]

Actually, OS, wasn't Loretta saying just the opposite? Her church is very dignified, seemed like what she wrote, IMHO.

I like dignified churches, but my hubby has to worship at a church that looks like it's out of the 5th Century. Dark, drafty, gothic arches, hard wood benches, cement or tile floors, echo, Latin mass, etc.

I like comfortable 21st Century buildings that are dignified in worship.

But to each his own.

So much is what we grow up with -- that's "normal" to us.

Oh, Presbyterian churches are notorious for gothic architecture; arched stainedglass windows, flying buttresses, the whole nine yards, and I love it. BUT there is nothing wrong with modernizing those oak pews with cushions!

[lorettalockhorn]

I think that all of us worship in different ways. It was meant to be that way, IMO. Some think that the clapping is for the one giving the performance and some see it as honoring the God who gave the talent. Most performers that I know would rather not have people clap for the performance God gave them the talent to give because people see it as taking credit for a talent they were given freely and chose to use to honor Him. As a one time actor and singer, I would simply raise my hand and point toward the One who gave me the ability to sing or act. Please, don't read too much into it. I guess that would make me Bapticostal?

Amen, and thanks for that explanation!

[lissyanne1]

Now this little 5 year old Haylee Cummings, disappearing from her bedroom last night.there is an amber alert out in Putnam Cty, Florida.

Geez, what the hell is going on in Florida folks?! This world is broken.:(

That is terrible. I am waiting for the Anthony's to claim that Caylee's killer took that child. (sorry, i don't mean to be flip, I am just embittered by this whole service today)

[beachbum]

I thought it was in all a lovely service for Caylee under the circumstances. I hope NG will have it on again...I didnt see the beginning. My opinion is I do believe George knows the truth. Cindy is still drinking the Casey koolaid. I think they all loved Caylee, never thought Casey would go so far.....but with faith as Cindy kept repeating.....let's have faith the judicial system will find Casey guilty of murdering her little girl and put her away.

[lissyanne1]

I thought it was in all a lovely service for Caylee under the circumstances. I hope NG will have it on again...I didnt see the beginning. My opinion is I do believe George knows the truth. Cindy is still drinking the Casey koolaid. I think they all loved Caylee, never thought Casey would go so far.....but with faith as Cindy kept repeating.....let's have faith the judicial system will find Casey guilty of murdering her little girl and put her away.

I agree it was lovely up until the family spoke. I think if they felt the need to bring up Casey and to pray for Casey etc. Caylee's service was not an appropriate time. This was to be HER day not Casey's ( I even noticed they had a pic of casey with caylee that the camera zoomed in on) If they still feel the need to support casey verbally they should have waited and given a statement at a different time for their lawyer to read or do an interview and say it.

[lorettalockhorn]

That is terrible. I am waiting for the Anthony's to claim that Caylee's killer took that child. (sorry, i don't mean to be flip, I am just embittered by this whole service today)

I thought the same thing when I saw the headline. The story:

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/orl-bk-missing-girl-021009,0,5657004.story

[lissyanne1]

Sorry guys, me again::;) I know I'm on a roll, but this is the first day in a long time that I have been home without any kids home with me. I can only discreetly lurk from work and not post.

I have also had an energy drink this morning (i had posted earlier that is my version of your haterade)

One more point about Lee, I find it odd that he is so supportive and torn up about Casey, ( I took that whole CMA crap today to refer to Casey otherwise why not just say Caylee, how stupid) when from at least 2 sources she had accused him of trying to "get with her". I would have been pissed about that. So it makes me wonder, that would be the only thing that could explain the whole families behaviour and coddling and enabling of Casey is that something like that happend to her and they all feel guilty and maybe use that as an excuse as to why she turned out the way she did. JMO

[Zingo]

Oh, Presbyterian churches are notorious for gothic architecture; arched stainedglass windows, flying buttresses, the whole nine yards, and I love it. BUT there is nothing wrong with modernizing those oak pews with cushions!

I have to have cushionned pews, L.! :D

Oh, and I wasn't into the "stand up, sit down, stand up, kneel, stand up," thing. When I go to church I just want to SIT for gosh sakes (I have a very bad knee from a motorcycle accident).

Anyway, took us 11 years, but hubby and I finally decided we couldn't attend church together. So I go my way on Sundays, and he goes his.

[beachbum]

I agree it was lovely up until the family spoke. I think if they felt the need to bring up Casey and to pray for Casey etc. Caylee's service was not an appropriate time. This was to be HER day not Casey's ( I even noticed they had a pic of casey with caylee that the camera zoomed in on) If they still feel the need to support casey verbally they should have waited and given a statement at a different time for their lawyer to read or do an interview and say it.

I agree they should have kept Casey's name out of it--under the circumstances. I dont think George mentioned her name, Cindy did but not sure about Lee unless it was the code CMA. Hello-Caylee is dead because of Casey--jmo

PS I am at work and did miss some of what George said...so excuse me....for not knowing
exactly what was going on....

[NMurphy02]

George was the only one who said it. He loves his daughter, don't form any judgements, she deserves understanding.... because we can't imagine what it's like. He all but came out and said "I KNOW, PEOPLE) he's saying pray for her (she needs it for doing this) she needs love (sinners need love too). The send her a letter part IS questionable, but hey........I'll skip over that, believe us, he doesn't want US sending her letters!!!;)

His face when he said that told it all.

I did not get that from Cindy's 'speech'. She made this to be something it shouldn't have been. You can tell she has been planning this awhile. Caylee hopefully got none of her mothers traits. NOTHING, may she rest in peace.

It's so funny to hear Cindy going on and on about her adoring (blech) daughter, when according to Jose Baez, she didn't want this and wasn't going to watch it. It's amazing to me how they kiss up to Casey and she doesn't give a cr*p about any of them.

[Zingo]

I really think the whole family is nuts.

Sorry to say that. Obviously, they are grieving and my heart goes out to them.

It was a beautiful ceremony under the circumstances. I thought all the singers were fantastic. The music that was chosen to honor Caylee was perfect. And thankfully, no protesters.

But as soon as Lee starts saying "CMA ... blah blah CMA" I knew that the gobbledy-gook was beginning.

George certainly seemed the most clear-headed ... ironic given his recent suicide attempt.

Lee and Cindy had some weird body language. They were sitting next to each other, but seemed kinda distant.

I don't know what is wrong, but there is definitely something weird.

Cindy's words about Caylee were beautiful, but I couldn't escape the feeling that Cindy is just not living in reality. She kept saying, "We need to stop the negativity."

Um, Cindy. Occasional negativity is ok. It's denial that is so corrosive to the soul.

[beachbum]

I know last night on NG she kept saying Casey wasnt going to tune it to the
service. I wonder if Casey did tune in....her mom kept referring to her. Just curious.

PS.I guess I answered my own question reading Fox news that she refused to watch it...because
she didnt approve of it.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,490391,00.html

[NMurphy02]

were banned? Isn't that nice! Since Cindy accused Jesse Grund of kidnapping Caylee? The Anthony's and their entitlement is amazing to me. I have never seen a more classless group of people in my life.

[Gatordog]

I know last night on NG she kept saying Casey wasnt going to tune it to the
service. I wonder if Casey did tune in....her mom kept referring to her. Just curious.

PS.I guess I answered my own question reading Fox news that she refused to watch it...because
she didnt approve of it.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,490391,00.html

She may have listened on her little radio.

Gator

[Gatordog]

It's rather ironic that Casey wanted a "private" memorial.

If you want to keep things private, as a rule, don't murder your child.

But that's exactly what Casey attempted to do ... keep things private. She didn't think anyone would notice that eventually Caylee never materialized with "the nanny."

She left her daughter double-bagged 15 blocks from her home, and didn't seem to think Caylee would actually be found.

She's living in her little dream world ...

Hi Zingo, it wasns't 15 blocks - it was 15 HOUSES. It's just down the street. You don't even have to cross any streets to get there.

Gator

[starlight2000]

I TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU!!!

Lee KNOWS something!.... At the memorial service he was obviously talking in codes and sending messages to "CMA" which stands for Casey Marie Anthony... He knows she did it... and he will never break his promise of telling!... Not for one minute I thought he was talking about Caylee, the CMA was a way of sending casey a message!

This family is so "weird" ... I have never seen anything like it.... I'm almost convinced that Lee is the biological father of Caylee... There's a "big secret in this family", I hope we'll be able to know what's really going on at the trial!.... Casy knows how to manipulate every single one of them, and I think is because there's a "big secret" they only know.

I hope they do a DNA on uncle Lee, as well as George!

[Zingo]

Hi Zingo, it wasns't 15 blocks - it was 15 HOUSES. It's just down the street. You don't even have to cross any streets to get there.

Gator


Whoops, thanks for catching my typo. 15 houses, exactly.

The Liar is also quite lazy, too lazy to be crossing streets. We know this :rolleyes:

When will we hear back on the fingerprints on the duct tape???

I think that is truly gonna nail Casey in the A**!

[lorettalockhorn]

I TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU!!!

Lee KNOWS something!.... At the memorial service he was obviously talking in codes and sending messages to "CMA" which stands for Casey Marie Anthony... He knows she did it... and he will never break his promise of telling!... Not for one minute I thought he was talking about Caylee, the CMA was a way of sending casey a message!

This family is so "weird" ... I have never seen anything like it.... I'm almost convinced that Lee is the biological father of Caylee... There's a "big secret in this family", I hope we'll be able to know what's really going on at the trial!.... Casy knows how to manipulate every single one of them, and I think is because there's a "big secret" they only know.

I hope they do a DNA on uncle Lee, as well as George!

Lee should have kept his trap shut today. DNA has been done on all the Anthonys.

[Zingo]

It bugged me that Lee spent so little time thanking others (the first sentence out of his mouth thanked people for coming and for their role in the memorial) but then his next sentence was a request for patience ??? :shrug:

I think this family should have spent more time thanking the hundreds of people who helped search for Caylee.

George seemed to thank people.

And Cindy did say that Caylee had brought strangers together to pray. I thought that was a nice touch.

[beachbum]

She may have listened on her little radio.

Gator

Yeah knowing her she purchased some goodies to munch on while she listened and got a bra and panties to match for the service. lol jmo

[lighthousedazy]

Lee should have kept his trap shut today. DNA has been done on all the Anthonys. I thought the "CMA" spoken several times sounded really stupid, even though he was probably speaking to Liar. Can you imagine if a minister or someone just pronounced the initials of a loved one of yours at a funeral. Disgusting. :eek:

[Twinners]

Uncut Zenaida interview with John Morgan. Explains a lot.

http://www.wftv.com/video/17580338/index.html

Thanks again, Gator.

I'm watching the interview again now and from what Mr. Morgan says of their theory, they seem to think Casey must have seen Zenaida's guest card at the apartment because the information the police mentioned to her when they called her was the exact same information found on the guest card, including her two kids nicknames. Do they not know the police found out about her, this Zenaida, through Sawgrass Apartments and had viewed the guest card for themselves before they ever called her?

[Gatordog]

Hi Everyone :seeya:

Just some updates on today's services. I watched about half on Fox 35. It was just one feed by the way. The church was the main feed and it went out to all the channels, so you didn't miss something on another channel. I saw the parking lot on webcam at about 9:30. Almost empty. One of my friends who is home during the day did go and she said there were a lot less people than she thought would be there. That's why they didn't show the inside of the church. It is a huge church with seats all along the sides and balconies. I have a feeling those were all empty. Just a few hundred people in the front were in attendance. I think a lot of people felt as I did, that is was a Cindy show. (It did end up being the Cindy and Casey hour) I'm thinking Padilla may have done better, but I suppose it's not a contest. I knew the Florida people would not protest. As I said, the only protests occurred when the Liar was out on bail because they wanted her back in jail. National media made it seem worse than it was and Cindy didn't help by confronting everyone.

I got to Surburban drive a little after 12:30. There were about 30 people there. I stopped off to buy purple balloons, but the store was out. I think they're all on Surburban. I did see a pink and purple butterfly balloon and then a Disney princess balloon with Cinderella, Sleeping Beauty and another pricess. I bought those two along with sunflowers. I was so happy to see sunflowers. I also bought a small vase that had three lavender roses and lavender and white poms. I bought that to leave at the Anthony house. After George spoke of lavendar, and these were the only lavender flowers in the store, I felt it was a sign.

The memorial has grown bigger. There are some beautiful stuffed bears and toys and so many flowers and balloons. I put our gifts in a more secluded place a little to the side where people were starting to put gifts because it was so barren there. It was actually a lot more torn up than when I put the seeds down. Makes me wonder the the defense has been up to.

I took pictures of the memorial and of our gifts. I drove to the Anthony house and there were about six cars, two in the driveway and four outside. I think they were there to stop people from going to the house. I stopped my car and waited a few seconds and sure enough the men in black showed up. Two big guys in black suits and sunglasses came over to me. I handed them the vase with flowers and asked if they could leave them by the door. He said he would. I drove away and looked in my rear view mirror and he was examining the flowers in looking inside of the "clear glass" vase to see if anything was in there.

My friend who went to the service said it was very intense. She said the songs were lovely and everything beautiful inside the church, just not a lot of people. She was interviewed by WESH and WKMG so it shows the media didn't have a whole lot of people to interview.

Gator

[Gatordog]

Thanks again, Gator.

I'm watching the interview again now and from what Mr. Morgan says of their theory, they seem to think Casey must have seen Zenaida's guest card at the apartment because the information the police mentioned to her when they called her was the exact same information found on the guest card, including her two kids nicknames. Do they not know the police found out about her, this Zenaida, through Sawgrass Apartments and had viewed the guest card for themselves before they ever called her?

You're welcome Twinners.

Gator

[beachbum]

Hi Everyone :seeya:

Just some updates on today's services. I watched about half on Fox 35. It was just one feed by the way. The church was the main feed and it went out to all the channels, so you didn't miss something on another channel. I saw the parking lot on webcam at about 9:30. Almost empty. One of my friends who is home during the day did go and she said there were a lot less people than she thought would be there. That's why they didn't show the inside of the church. It is a huge church with seats all along the sides and balconies. I have a feeling those were all empty. Just a few hundred people in the front were in attendance. I think a lot of people felt as I did, that is was a Cindy show. (It did end up being the Cindy and Casey hour) I'm thinking Padilla may have done better, but I suppose it's not a contest. I knew the Florida people would not protest. As I said, the only protests occurred when the Liar was out on bail because they wanted her back in jail. National media made it seem worse than it was and Cindy didn't help by confronting everyone.

I got to Surburban drive a little after 12:30. There were about 30 people there. I stopped off to buy purple balloons, but the store was out. I think they're all on Surburban. I did see a pink and purple butterfly balloon and then a Disney princess balloon with Cinderella, Sleeping Beauty and another pricess. I bought those two along with sunflowers. I was so happy to see sunflowers. I also bought a small vase that had three lavender roses and lavender and white poms. I bought that to leave at the Anthony house. After George spoke of lavendar, and these were the only lavender flowers in the store, I felt it was a sign.

The memorial has grown bigger. There are some beautiful stuffed bears and toys and so many flowers and balloons. I put our gifts in a more secluded place a little to the side where people were starting to put gifts because it was so barren there. It was actually a lot more torn up than when I put the seeds down. Makes me wonder the the defense has been up to.

I took pictures of the memorial and of our gifts. I drove to the Anthony house and there were about six cars, two in the driveway and four outside. I think they were there to stop people from going to the house. I stopped my car and waited a few seconds and sure enough the men in black showed up. Two big guys in black suits and sunglasses came over to me. I handed them the vase with flowers and asked if they could leave them by the door. He said he would. I drove away and looked in my rear view mirror and he was examining the flowers in looking inside of the "clear glass" vase to see if anything was in there.

My friend who went to the service said it was very intense. She said the songs were lovely and everything beautiful inside the church, just not a lot of people. She was interviewed by WESH and WKMG so it shows the media didn't have a whole lot of people to interview.

Gator

Thanks Gator!

[Gatordog]

Hey, get this from WESH:

"At 9:39 a.m. however, Casey Anthony's attorney, Jose Baez, visited his client in the female detention center in an attorney interview room. Although the room did not have a TV, Baez did have a laptop with him and it is possible and allowed that he and Casey Anthony could have been watching the service via air card."

I bet you 10 to 1 that the family knew she'd be watching with Jose on his laptop. She got all her secret and coded messages. Miss CMA.

http://www.wesh.com/news/18679508/detail.html

Gator

[lorettalockhorn]

Thanks Gator for the beautiful gesture! The news links that I found earlier stated between 1100 and 1200 at the Baptist Church service and about 200 at the LP/Grund service. At least one outlet said that the memorial site on Suburban will be removed soon (I think that's the proper interpretation.)

I'm proud to "know" someone as thoughtful as you. The lavendar flower were inspired.

[Gatordog]

By the way, when I was on Surburban Drive, the only media channel truck that was there was Telemundo. I'm telling you, IMO, Jose is cozing up to the Spanish tv stations in hopes of the trial going to Miami.

I hope it goes to Pensacola. How do you say, Hasta La Vista, Baby, in Redneck?

Gator

[Gatordog]

Thanks Gator for the beautiful gesture! The news links that I found earlier stated between 1100 and 1200 at the Baptist Church service and about 200 at the LP/Grund service. At least one outlet said that the memorial site on Suburban will be removed soon (I think that's the proper interpretation.)

I'm proud to "know" someone as thoughtful as you. The lavendar flower were inspired.

Loretta, that means a lot to me. Thank you,

Gator

[lorettalockhorn]

Hey, get this from WESH:

"At 9:39 a.m. however, Casey Anthony's attorney, Jose Baez, visited his client in the female detention center in an attorney interview room. Although the room did not have a TV, Baez did have a laptop with him and it is possible and allowed that he and Casey Anthony could have been watching the service via air card."

I bet you 10 to 1 that the family knew she'd be watching with Jose on his laptop. She got all her secret and coded messages. Miss CMA.

http://www.wesh.com/news/18679508/detail.html

Gator

Good for her. :rolleyes: As if her caring and compassion behind closed doors can undo what she demonstrated yesterday. fie

[Twinners]

Hey, get this from WESH:

"At 9:39 a.m. however, Casey Anthony's attorney, Jose Baez, visited his client in the female detention center in an attorney interview room. Although the room did not have a TV, Baez did have a laptop with him and it is possible and allowed that he and Casey Anthony could have been watching the service via air card."

I bet you 10 to 1 that the family knew she'd be watching with Jose on his laptop. She got all her secret and coded messages. Miss CMA.

http://www.wesh.com/news/18679508/detail.html

Gator

Good catch, Gator.

I don't know a thing about the attorney interview room. Do you know if other people can see in the room or is it private? I ask because someone on NG last night (maybe Nancy!) said Casey may not want other inmates to see her reaction to the service and that's why she wasn't going to watch it on television.

[lorettalockhorn]

By the way, when I was on Surburban Drive, the only media channel truck that was there was Telemundo. I'm telling you, IMO, Jose is cozing up to the Spanish tv stations in hopes of the trial going to Miami.

I hope it goes to Pensacola. How do you say, Hasta La Vista, Baby, in Redneck?

Gator

Well *spit* roun heah we'uns say "git on down the road mutha". *spit*

[Gatordog]

Good catch, Gator.

I don't know a thing about the attorney interview room. Do you know if other people can see in the room or is it private? I ask because someone on NG last night (maybe Nancy!) said Casey may not want other inmates to see her reaction to the service and that's why she wasn't going to watch it on television.

I'm happy to say that I have no knowledge of the attorney interview room. :tongue:

Gator

[lorettalockhorn]

Loretta, that means a lot to me. Thank you,

Gator

http://i44.tinypic.com/2mnln3r.jpg

[beachbum]

Hey, get this from WESH:

"At 9:39 a.m. however, Casey Anthony's attorney, Jose Baez, visited his client in the female detention center in an attorney interview room. Although the room did not have a TV, Baez did have a laptop with him and it is possible and allowed that he and Casey Anthony could have been watching the service via air card."

I bet you 10 to 1 that the family knew she'd be watching with Jose on his laptop. She got all her secret and coded messages. Miss CMA.

http://www.wesh.com/news/18679508/detail.html

Gator


yeah I watched on my computer here at work--came in just like tv so she watched.

[Gatordog]

Well *spit* roun heah we'uns say "git on down the road mutha". *spit*

http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-laughing003.gif (http://www.freesmileys.org)

Gator

[Native Alien]

Thank you Gator and you did a beautiful thing.

The news reports that I have heard have given estimates of between a few hundred to 1100 people in the church. I haven't seen any news on the Padillo/Grund gathering.

[lorettalockhorn]

I'm happy to say that I have no knowledge of the attorney interview room. :tongue:

Gator

Not to worry; if worse comes to worse, not only will we bail you out, we'll give you an alibi.

"Honest, she was here all night drinking haterade with us!"

[Native Alien]

Good catch, Gator.

I don't know a thing about the attorney interview room. Do you know if other people can see in the room or is it private? I ask because someone on NG last night (maybe Nancy!) said Casey may not want other inmates to see her reaction to the service and that's why she wasn't going to watch it on television.

Usually from everything that I know, the attorney/client rooms are private and while a guard is usually just outside the door they can't be watched or listened to outside the room. It all has to do with attorney client privilege.

[Twinners]

I'm happy to say that I have no knowledge of the attorney interview room. :tongue:

Gator

Oh, well... I hadn't thought of you knowing about it that way! ;) Maybe we'll get lucky and someone with more experience in that area will let us know on NG tonight. LOL.

[shadydaisy]

Good catch, Gator.

I don't know a thing about the attorney interview room. Do you know if other people can see in the room or is it private? I ask because someone on NG last night (maybe Nancy!) said Casey may not want other inmates to see her reaction to the service and that's why she wasn't going to watch it on television.


Usually a private room. Casey would not be considered an extremely dangerous inmate whose attorney would request observation. Client confidentiality....

[Twinners]

Hi Everyone :seeya:

Just some updates on today's services. I watched about half on Fox 35. It was just one feed by the way. The church was the main feed and it went out to all the channels, so you didn't miss something on another channel. I saw the parking lot on webcam at about 9:30. Almost empty. One of my friends who is home during the day did go and she said there were a lot less people than she thought would be there. That's why they didn't show the inside of the church. It is a huge church with seats all along the sides and balconies. I have a feeling those were all empty. Just a few hundred people in the front were in attendance. I think a lot of people felt as I did, that is was a Cindy show. (It did end up being the Cindy and Casey hour) I'm thinking Padilla may have done better, but I suppose it's not a contest. I knew the Florida people would not protest. As I said, the only protests occurred when the Liar was out on bail because they wanted her back in jail. National media made it seem worse than it was and Cindy didn't help by confronting everyone.

I got to Surburban drive a little after 12:30. There were about 30 people there. I stopped off to buy purple balloons, but the store was out. I think they're all on Surburban. I did see a pink and purple butterfly balloon and then a Disney princess balloon with Cinderella, Sleeping Beauty and another pricess. I bought those two along with sunflowers. I was so happy to see sunflowers. I also bought a small vase that had three lavender roses and lavender and white poms. I bought that to leave at the Anthony house. After George spoke of lavendar, and these were the only lavender flowers in the store, I felt it was a sign.

The memorial has grown bigger. There are some beautiful stuffed bears and toys and so many flowers and balloons. I put our gifts in a more secluded place a little to the side where people were starting to put gifts because it was so barren there. It was actually a lot more torn up than when I put the seeds down. Makes me wonder the the defense has been up to.

I took pictures of the memorial and of our gifts. I drove to the Anthony house and there were about six cars, two in the driveway and four outside. I think they were there to stop people from going to the house. I stopped my car and waited a few seconds and sure enough the men in black showed up. Two big guys in black suits and sunglasses came over to me. I handed them the vase with flowers and asked if they could leave them by the door. He said he would. I drove away and looked in my rear view mirror and he was examining the flowers in looking inside of the "clear glass" vase to see if anything was in there.

My friend who went to the service said it was very intense. She said the songs were lovely and everything beautiful inside the church, just not a lot of people. She was interviewed by WESH and WKMG so it shows the media didn't have a whole lot of people to interview.

Gator

Gator,

I'm sorry for yesterday. I thank you for today.

[lorettalockhorn]

Hi everyone,

My new laptop came today and I was surprised it allowed me to log on as danagher. I thought I'd have to change my nic because it's a new computer with a different id number. I couldn't get on as danagher on poppa's desk top so, but anyway it's good to have a working keyboard and I'm sure you know my cawffee is far away from it. Go ahead, I can take it! :punch: CAWFFEE:no:

Just wanted to say, I'm baaaaahaaack!

I missed you. Time to catch up. :read:

Great to have you back! http://i32.tinypic.com/2mezwpf.jpg

[lorettalockhorn]

"Gone Too Soon" video:

http://www.wesh.com/video/18681790/index.html

This may be the link to the index. Not sure.

[Twinners]

Just wanted to say, I'm baaaaahaaack!

Welcome back! :beer:

Usually from everything that I know, the attorney/client rooms are private and while a guard is usually just outside the door they can't be watched or listened to outside the room. It all has to do with attorney client privilege.

Usually a private room. Casey would not be considered an extremely dangerous inmate whose attorney would request observation. Client confidentiality....

Thank you! I guess it makes sense for him to have her watch it in private, just in case it made her angry when she saw it was more about Caylee than her. :rolleyes:

I bet she hated the entire service. That only makes me loathe her more.

[lorettalockhorn]

Welcome back! :beer:





Thank you! I guess it makes sense for him to have her watch it in private, just in case it made her angry when she saw it was more about Caylee than her. :rolleyes:

I bet she hated the entire service. That only makes me loathe her more.

It was?!?!?! Coulda fooled me. Seemed pretty obvious to me that those security devices couldn't penetrate deep enough to determine exactly who had a pure heart.

[Twinners]

Last thing re: Zenaida.

Page 4: About the fourth full paragraph down, starts with "I met". Talks about the police seeing/getting the "guest card" from Sawgrass.

Page 5: About the fourth full paragraph down, starts with "While the defendant". Talks about calling the Zenaida Gonzalez identified from Sawgrass Apartments. I think they talk about Casey being shown the Zenaida pictures in the following paragraph.

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/1080375/0825-Casey-Anthony-Documents-released-part-1

I think this document was released in the first batch of evidence. I think it was August 25, 2008.

[Justice Denied?]

:beer:I hope Cindy kept copies of all the pictures.

I was wondering about that. Are they selling all rights to the pictures, negatives, copies and all? Will the A's be able to keep negatives andcopies for their personal enjoyment? Know they couldn't sell them to anyone else.

[Twinners]

It was?!?!?! Coulda fooled me. Seemed pretty obvious to me that those security devices couldn't penetrate deep enough to determine exactly who had a pure heart.

I thought so. The tears I cried during the service were for her anyway. :tongue:

[lorettalockhorn]

I thought so. The tears I cried during the service were for her anyway. :tongue:

The music and the Caylee sections were beautiful. The propaganda, not so much.

[Justice Denied?]

Stop the presses! I sound like NG now. :D

I was reading this police statement from one of the Liar's boyfriends and on page 13 of 25 he tells police he received a text message stating that Caylee has been missing for 32 days. He thinks her brother had her phone and sent the message. :D

http://www.wftv.com/download/2008/0926/17564652.pdf

Gator

Well, that was one of theories, that Lee had the lost cell phone.

[browneyes106]

By the way, when I was on Surburban Drive, the only media channel truck that was there was Telemundo. I'm telling you, IMO, Jose is cozing up to the Spanish tv stations in hopes of the trial going to Miami.

I hope it goes to Pensacola. How do you say, Hasta La Vista, Baby, in Redneck?

Gator

Is Pensacola being considered as a venue? Even though I don't live in Florida I think Casey will be convicted in any place there. Years ago change of venues probably worked better for defense or prosecution teams. But in this day and age the Internet, national morning news shows and cable shows provide information to people who live out of the areas where crimes take place. People outside the Orlando area probably get info other ways. I think Baez is probably trying to get other Hispanics to feel sorry for him or whatever but it won't work. Here in New Mexico I know a lot of fellow Hispanics who work in the legal field and they sometimes play the race card of make false accusations of racism and I never buy their BS. The same thing will happen to Baez.

[browneyes106]

I'm only watching clips of the memorial on HLN. Did Cindy's parents attend?

[lorettalockhorn]

I'm only watching clips of the memorial on HLN. Did Cindy's parents attend?

No, George mentioned them and said that he wished that they could be there.

[beachbum]

I love Florida. Where did you think I got my name from? I agree it doesnt matter where you take this case, I think she will be convicted......any person that can look at a picture of Caylee and then listen to what all Casey has done.....shouldnt be no problem.

[wind149]

Finally I was able to get a new computer direct from Dell and boy, have I missed these boards!! I won't rehash what has transpired since I left in Dec but many points I would like to being up. I first thought the service today was going to be a circus and was pleased to see that it wasn't but what galls me is how Cindy denied access to two people who tried to help her family from day one, LP and Tim Miller and we all know why. They speak the truth she does not even NOW want to hear, that her daughter murdered her grandchild in cold blood simply because she cramped her style and rather than just give custody to her mother she murdered her out of spite as well. I really thought that once the body was found that she would be the one to go off the deep end and I was honestly sorry for George to a certain degree, I teared up this morning hearing his pain and then got all pissed off at Cindy for blathering on about how much CA loved C and how good a mommy she was, I know she loves her daughter but she needs to get her head out of her ass and and realize that C never loved the child, and that she murdered her and what is it gonna take for this stupid woman to wake up??? Not even the body being found has woke her up, she still thinks that Z kidnapped and murdered her!!!

And what galled me yesterday was the selfish disgusting speech Baez read from that *****!!! DOES SHE really think she is getting out of jail to go to a gravestone???? She will be only leaving in a pine box!!! She might very well have watched the service on Baez's laptop but who cares???? I sure as hell don't give one crap about this loser skank and Lee, thinking he was being clever with his coded speech and here again kids, what is up with him asking for immunity?? If you have done nothing wrong, you don't lawyer up and ask for that?? This family was clearly dysfunctional way before C was even born, truth seems to escape them and they all have lied!!! And if Baez tries to sell pictures of that child's dead bones, he needs to be disbarred, but guess who gave him the idea?? She could give a crap less about anybody but herself and if there is anything she can reap from this whether it be money or lawyers, forensic specialists, she will try it!! What happened to the $200,00 that was originally raised??? Probably for her beauty products, designer water and her Doritos and it galls me to think that people have sent this skank canteen money, like they think she is the victim here!!

And listening to those early jailhouse tapes when she whines about how her life is over and she is a victim too and how stupid George sounds when he says to her that she is the boss???? And it makes me puke to hear her whine about how no one will talk to her, ME ME ME ME!!! This whole nightmare, you could not make this up for a soap opera plot and as for when the trial will begin? I am thinking probably fall or clear into next year and this will be just as much as a circus as the OJ trial was and I am OK with either LWPOP OR DP, as long as she does not get any parolable sentence as I think this ***** is as bad as Pam Smart and we all know she is never getting out. Right now they are talking about the lack of protesters, why would they want to show up now? Everything about this case has been hashed out by millions of people, my local newspaper even now has a Caylee blog.

My only complaint about the service is once again I felt Cindy was grandstanding, what was wrong with a service at the church they were going to? I know, it does not hold 5,000 people, I think it was a bit much to hold it at that church and all the cameras catching every word and tear, not something I would do if I lost my only grandchild to murder, I would not want the whole world to catch my grief and then be commented about from every news network out there, did they cry enough? Who paid for the flowers and the singers?? Sickening to me and I know people will not agree with me I just thought it was poor taste. I remember a homicide years ago that was highly publicized as they were respected school teachers loved by everyone and instead of cameras at a church,the family held a memorial at a park and no reporters or cameras were allowed, that was in good taste, I know, I went.

[Gatordog]

Oh, well... I hadn't thought of you knowing about it that way! ;) Maybe we'll get lucky and someone with more experience in that area will let us know on NG tonight. LOL.

On thinking back, Baez has been reprimanded for hugging his cliengt twice, so I'm guessing that the are able to be viewed but not heard.

Gator

[javahog]

I was wondering about that. Are they selling all rights to the pictures, negatives, copies and all? Will the A's be able to keep negatives andcopies for their personal enjoyment? Know they couldn't sell them to anyone else.

I'll bet the "Gone Too Soon" video was a montage of all the video that is being hawked. Most of it looked "fresh" to me...

[Gatordog]

Gator,

I'm sorry for yesterday. I thank you for today.

http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-angelic003.gif (http://www.freesmileys.org)

Thank you and we all have our days, and you're welcome. I've got to tell you, all of you are my inspiration. For myself, I may not have gone, but I had all of you with me and that made it joyful for me.

Gator

[javahog]

I think Casey Anthony's name did not belong at that memorial. They were covering consequences for her again. Nothing new under the sun. That was a shabby part of a beautiful service. Giving Caylee a back seat for a milisecond was not a classy thing to do. If you listen hard to the way their eulogies were composed, you will hear the sense of entitlement and the demands.

Lee is an audacious SOB. There is no irony in calling him a son of a B!tch either! I can't stomach him. He should have used Caylee's name. What's the crap with the CMA? He needs a tune up. Ego and grief do not belong in the same sentence.

But...but...he's the only pillar of strength for the family!

Am I wrong, or does that sound narcissistic? Is it genetic or nurture? And, CMA is Casey's initials, too. Though it would be a bit odd for him to be chanting his sister initials while slobbering kisses on his own wrist. At his niece's memorial...wassup with that? It would be odd if he meant Caylee's initials.

I just think they don't know how to function in ways that society understands. I'm sure they are hurting terribly. Though I feel for George the most. (PS, glad you're back!)

[Gatordog]

The music and the Caylee sections were beautiful. The propaganda, not so much.

Do you think they will produce a cd of the music. Profits go to the Caylee fund and the church. It could be millions.

Gator

[javahog]

Do you think they will produce a cd of the music. Profits go to the Caylee fund and the church. It could be millions.

Gator

Hmm, no recording devices were allowed, right? You might have hit it.

[Gatordog]

I was wondering about that. Are they selling all rights to the pictures, negatives, copies and all? Will the A's be able to keep negatives andcopies for their personal enjoyment? Know they couldn't sell them to anyone else.

In one of the clips that have been shown on the news of the Liar going into Baez' office, she is seen holding a huge white photo album type binder.

Gator

[Gatordog]

I think Casey Anthony's name did not belong at that memorial. They were covering consequences for her again. Nothing new under the sun. That was a shabby part of a beautiful service. Giving Caylee a back seat for a milisecond was not a classy thing to do. If you listen hard to the way their eulogies were composed, you will hear the sense of entitlement and the demands.

Lee is an audacious SOB. There is no irony in calling him a son of a B!tch either! I can't stomach him. He should have used Caylee's name. What's the crap with the CMA? He needs a tune up. Ego and grief do not belong in the same sentence.

CMA - Casey Marie Anthony. You know, that was really creepy. I never bought into the rumors, but now, I'm not so sure. His emotion and words were meant for his sister and it made my skin crawl.

Gator

[lorettalockhorn]

I'm only watching clips of the memorial on HLN. Did Cindy's parents attend?

No, George mentioned them and said that he wished that they could be there.

Browneyes, I saw part of George's eulogy again and he mentions the relatives and says that he wished his Dad could be there. So I just don't know about any of the Pleseas. Mr. Al Plesea is the only one I would recognize, and I didn't see him. Next to G&C were Lee & Mallory (I guess) on one side and someone about G's&C's age on the other. :shrug:

[lorettalockhorn]

Finally I was able to get a new computer direct from Dell and boy, have I missed these boards!!

Pardon me for getting snippy with you :hat:, but just wanted to say that we were worried about you and I'm so glad you're back! Congrats on the new puter.

[Zingo]

Do you think they will produce a cd of the music. Profits go to the Caylee fund and the church. It could be millions.

Gator

I would buy it.

[lorettalockhorn]

But...but...he's the only pillar of strength for the family!

Am I wrong, or does that sound narcissistic? Is it genetic or nurture? And, CMA is Casey's initials, too. Though it would be a bit odd for him to be chanting his sister initials while slobbering kisses on his own wrist. At his niece's memorial...wassup with that? It would be odd if he meant Caylee's initials.

I just think they don't know how to function in ways that society understands. I'm sure they are hurting terribly. Though I feel for George the most. (PS, glad you're back!)

If Lee Anthony is a pillar of strength, I'd sure as hell hate to meet the blob of Jello who wasn't there to preach the Casey Koolaid today.

[javahog]

wow. The more I see of Lee smacking on the inside of his wrist (intimate, isn't it) after desperately moaning CMA and promising not to forget the promise he made...the more creeped out I am. Whichever he is referring to its weird.

[Zingo]

CMA - Casey Marie Anthony. You know, that was really creepy. I never bought into the rumors, but now, I'm not so sure. His emotion and words were meant for his sister and it made my skin crawl.

Gator

Yeah, we really need a barf icon for Lee's "Ode to CMA."

LP says he thinks Lee is definitely referring to Casey ...

I understand a family sticking together, but this is ridiculous.

"This family is united."

"CMA ... (kissing bracelet)"

"CMA ... It's been so long since I've seen you and hugged you."

Yuck!

[javahog]

If that well thought out play on the bracelet kissing wasn't totally planned, I'll eat him.

Please go ahead. I never want to see a scene like that again!

[SuzDuJour]

I don't believe Lee ever even said Caylee's name...I found it beyond odd and was I completely upset when he appeared to have asked for the 'killer' to let their conscience let them come forward...HUH?? Off the charts if you ask me.

Below is an unrelated link to the TV interview of the missing 5 year old girl's father. Although his grief is obvious and his tears are real, I found an Uh-OH moment when he said he'd give his life to have her life back (not to have her back, but her LIFE back). I'm thinking we don't even know if her life is gone at this point. Then another awkward moment when he collapses to the ground in grief, but then pops back up to add a comment. Then again, I remember Marc Lunsford and he had nothing to do with Jessica's kidnapping. (Feel free to move all this to an appropriate thread if it doesn't belong on this discussion).

http://www.news4jax.com/video/18684460/index.html

[lorettalockhorn]

I got mine today.. it's so neat. It feels like pure whipped cream. The keys work! Yayus! I'm enjoying it so much. I'll keep this one neat in the pandora's box of mysteries and of course I'll keep my cuppa jo far away from it.

Gee it's so nice to be home again. {...Sigh.... }

Y'all can't stay gone so long. Now if we can get mu8 back, and O2S over her cold, and everyone else who's MIA!!

[Gatordog]

wow. The more I see of Lee smacking on the inside of his wrist (intimate, isn't it) after desperately moaning CMA and promising not to forget the promise he made...the more creeped out I am. Whichever he is referring to its weird.

I know, each time I see it, it makes my skin crawl. http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-shocked003.gif (http://www.freesmileys.org)

Gator

[lorettalockhorn]

Please go ahead. I never want to see a scene like that again!

Oh God. I just saw it again on NG and you could actually hear the wet sloppy display of what? Auto-eroticism? Sheesh He should have been arrested for pornography on the way out the door. UGH Disgusting.

Poor Caylee with this bunch.

[deputydi]

CMA - Casey Marie Anthony. You know, that was really creepy. I never bought into the rumors, but now, I'm not so sure. His emotion and words were meant for his sister and it made my skin crawl.

Gator
I haven't had time to catch up completely on tonight's posts, but I agree with you. This memorial was supposed to be a remembrance and tribute to Caylee's short life. The beautiful song "Gone too soon" was the only appropriate thing I've heard in the clips I've seen.

Lee's repeated reference and coded message to CMA was spooky. I was moved by George, but it was IMO in bad taste in this venue. What is wrong with this family?

I'm about ready to eat some crow and tell all of you that my sympathy for the Anthony's dropped considerably tonight. Mark Klass was right on when he said this family is all about drama. I can't help but feel sorry for all they have lost and all they will lose in the future, but these people are disgusting.

[Gatordog]

Right J, and I didn't think he was coding to his sister at first either. Then I thought about it and wondered what he could have possibly promised Caylee that could matter now. I might even be wrong, but the dramatic effects were creepy yes. It doesn't surprise me that he was doing the smoke and mirror thing, it just made no sense to the sensible that he did it at a service for that little dolly.

Haterade anyone??? :beer:

Nawny, after that spectacle of Lee's, think I need a double. http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-eatdrink003.gif (http://www.freesmileys.org)

Gator

[Gatordog]

Yeah, we really need a barf icon for Lee's "Ode to CMA."

LP says he thinks Lee is definitely referring to Casey ...

I understand a family sticking together, but this is ridiculous.

"This family is united."

"CMA ... (kissing bracelet)"

"CMA ... It's been so long since I've seen you and hugged you."

Yuck!

I think this one will serve the purpose well...http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-sick029.gif (http://www.freesmileys.org)

[Justice Denied?]

Lee Anthony - talking to CMA - was that Caylee Marie Anthony or Casey Marie Anthony. I think it was Casey. JMO.

Gator

That seems to be the consensus. What message was he trying to send? I think when he said the family was united he was either telling her they would stand behind her and not talk or united to get to the truth. He says his family deserves the truth.

I thought the part about its been so long since I held you was kind of creepy. You could read all kinds of hidden meaning into that. JMO

[lorettalockhorn]

I don't believe Lee ever even said Caylee's name...I found it beyond odd and was I completely upset when he appeared to have asked for the 'killer' to let their conscience let them come forward...HUH?? Off the charts if you ask me.

Below is an unrelated link to the TV interview of the missing 5 year old girl's father. Although his grief is obvious and his tears are real, I found an Uh-OH moment when he said he'd give his life to have her life back (not to have her back, but her LIFE back). I'm thinking we don't even know if her life is gone at this point. Then another awkward moment when he collapses to the ground in grief, but then pops back up to add a comment. Then again, I remember Marc Lunsford and he had nothing to do with Jessica's kidnapping. (Feel free to move all this to an appropriate thread if it doesn't belong on this discussion).

http://www.news4jax.com/video/18684460/index.html

Hadn't seen that, thanks for posting. Kind of bizarre. Someone stole her out of his bed? I can appreciate him begging for her return, but maybe he shouldn't threaten to "take the trash out" until she's safe at home.

It's hard to imagine that so many children disappear in our civilized and advanced country.

[javahog]

I haven't had time to catch up completely on tonight's posts, but I agree with you. This memorial was supposed to be a remembrance and tribute to Caylee's short life. The beautiful song "Gone too soon" was the only appropriate thing I've heard in the clips I've seen.

Lee's repeated reference and coded message to CMA was spooky. I was moved by George, but it was IMO in bad taste in this venue. What is wrong with this family?

I'm about ready to eat some crow and tell all of you that my sympathy for the Anthony's dropped considerably tonight. Mark Klass was right on when he said this family is all about drama. I can't help but feel sorry for all they have lost and all they will lose in the future, but these people are disgusting.

All the music was nice, imo...there, i said something nice about Cindy...

[Justice Denied?]

George, you do not want me to write Casey a letter. Trust me.

Second that! They don't have enough asbestos gloves in that jail to handle the leter I would write.:mad::flamemad:

[Gatordog]

Hadn't seen that, thanks for posting. Kind of bizarre. Someone stole her out of his bed? I can appreciate him begging for her return, but maybe he shouldn't threaten to "take the trash out" until she's safe at home.

It's hard to imagine that so many children disappear in our civilized and advanced country.

Heard conflicting stories on the news (always a bad sign). One version was the girlfriend woke up because she heard a noise and checked on Haleigh and she wasn't in bed and the kitchen door was wide open. Second version is that the girlfriend went to bed and Haleigh and the 2 year old boy were in her bed with her. She woke up to go to the bathroom at 3:30 and Haleigh was not in the bed.

It's frightening that so many children are taken right out of their own home without being detected. Don't know if that is the case here. Doesn't pass the stink test with me yet.

Gator

[Justice Denied?]

Cindy is still in total denial. She wants to comfort Casey and take away her "pain." She says Caylee got her compassion from Casey! :confused:

But I can't really blame Cindy.

She says God blessed her with three children. :confused:

She really thought of Caylee as a daughter, obviously.

Was that 3 children comment an intentional jab at Casey or just a blatant freudian slip?

[Gatordog]

I'm so annoyed by that display I can't even tell ya! He seemed to be in complete acting mode, perhaps trying to impress his lady. Maybe he was just as aware of the camera as Cindy was. I feel like a jerk for saying these things about such an event but I feel that it was all too little too late for this attention to the carnage but also used this day as an opportunity to beg amnesty for a killer... Caylee was alive and they didn't protect her. She died because of an ego war between two self absorbed women! They are really all responsible for her death. I don't care how many times he kisses his bracelet. The kid is dead! No one protected her then. Why kiss rubber bracelets!? He's a pillar of Chit!

imo.

We don't even know exactly what bracelet he was kissing - could be the one that was sent to the Liar but confiscated.

As far as trying to impress his lady - which one is that? If I were his girlfriend, after today I would :chicken::chicken: as fast as I could!

Gator

[lorettalockhorn]

Ya know my Italian friend, I do declare, fattening or not, I'm gonna pour me a baileys after my hot shower. I gotta wash those preening ass holes outta my hair.

I spent the day with 2 of my weebles today and I couldn't stop looking at them. They delighted me at every turn. We did laundry together (I hate laundry:eek:) and I taught them how to fold socks. They were over the top happy about folding socks. We played all day and I wondered what kind of fool would let one of them out of the house with a spiteful rotten screwed up mother. Thank God I don't have that problem but I know I'd have wrestled Casey to the floor and held her there if she tried to take that child out in the throws of hysteria. What the hell were they thinking when they let her go?

Children have no survival instincts. They don't drive, use the phone, have a visa card, job. WHo doesn't know that? These people are animals. Well dressed ones.

SOrry.. I've been holding it in all day. :punch: me.

Don't EVEN get me started on Cindy's and Lee's wardrobe. LMFAO

[Gatordog]

Aww, I couldn't sign up as nawny, it won't let me. I thought I could, because its a different computer..the only way I can do that is to make a new email address. This place won't let you have two names. I may go to mail.com tomorrow and get a new email address and try it from there. My real name is really, really, nawny. Ask my weebles. ;)

I don't care, I like Nawny, so that's what I'll call you. :)

gator

[Twinners]

I had the chance to hear Lee's words to CMA again on NG tonight. They seemed freakier the second time I heard them. One of NG's callers said she noticed Lee was only wearing one button on his shirt today - the green one for Casey. George and Cindy were wearing three of them, one for Caylee, one for missing children and one for Casey. Based on that alone, I think his comments were for Casey, not Caylee. Given what he said, I might not think that's such a bad thing!

Loved what Nancy said about unconditional love from a mother to her child. I don't always understand Cindy's actions or what comes out of her mouth, but, as a mother myself, I feel like I can understand what is in her heart. I try to keep what must be in her heart in my head when I'm watching and listening to her. It's the only way I can watch or listen to her anymore.

I thought what they said about George maybe being able to save Casey's life if the death penalty goes back on the table was interesting. I completely agree with him. For whatever reason, George is someone I can empathize with without even trying. I think that's because I think he knows and accepts the truth of the situation, yet he isn't one bit shy about saying he misses and loves Casey. He doesn't have to deny or look for an "alternative answer" to what happened to Caylee. He accepts it and loves Casey anyway. That, IMO, is what makes his words seem so genuine and heartfelt.

[Justice Denied?]

Right J, and I didn't think he was coding to his sister at first either. Then I thought about it and wondered what he could have possibly promised Caylee that could matter now. I might even be wrong, but the dramatic effects were creepy yes. It doesn't surprise me that he was doing the smoke and mirror thing, it just made no sense to the sensible that he did it at a service for that little dolly.

Haterade anyone??? :beer:

I'll have a double, bartender, and please leave the bottle.

[lorettalockhorn]

Heard conflicting stories on the news (always a bad sign). One version was the girlfriend woke up because she heard a noise and checked on Haleigh and she wasn't in bed and the kitchen door was wide open. Second version is that the girlfriend went to bed and Haleigh and the 2 year old boy were in her bed with her. She woke up to go to the bathroom at 3:30 and Haleigh was not in the bed.

It's frightening that so many children are taken right out of their own home without being detected. Don't know if that is the case here. Doesn't pass the stink test with me yet.

Gator

Me neither on the stink test (good way to put it). I hate to come down on a victim; I'll chalk up the Smell O'Rat to stress and terror for now.

[Justice Denied?]

Hadn't seen that, thanks for posting. Kind of bizarre. Someone stole her out of his bed? I can appreciate him begging for her return, but maybe he shouldn't threaten to "take the trash out" until she's safe at home.

It's hard to imagine that so many children disappear in our civilized and advanced country.

anyone besides me think this case is a litle suspicious? Someone breaks into the house (at first they said no sign of forced entry) and waits til the girlfriend goes to the bathroom to take the little girl from the bedwhere the girlfriend and the two children are sleeping? Just don't sound right to me. MOO

[Twinners]

Oh, guess what? I actually found someone who doesn't think Casey killed Caylee. Guess what else? They were sitting at my dinner table this evening. We were sitting there talking about our day and I mentioned that I'd watched Caylee's memorial, which led this person to say they thought Casey was guilty of a lot of things, but killing her daughter wasn't one of them. I sat there, shocked beyond words, and thought, did I invite one of the Anthony's to dinner without realizing it? :eek: Then, I realized I hadn't. Those words had come out of my own father's mouth! :eek:

I could NOT believe it. I still can't. How could anyone not think she did it? I asked him why he didn't. He babbled on something about thinking she had help, someone who took care of it for her. I then went on a big tangent about how all the evidence points to her doing it and so forth. He then said something about me not knowing everything, how I'm not a detective and some other mumbo jumbo, which I, in true child fashion, didn't pay one bit of attention to. ;) When all was said and done, I really did have the feeling her looks affected his opinion of her. That's bad, IMO, because if it colors his opinion, it may color some of the juror's opinions too.

Needless to say, I'm not inviting him back for dinner tomorrow evening. I love him, but I just can't have that level of stress and anger in my life on a regular basis. At least not when I have a fork in my hand. :biggrin:

[Justice Denied?]

Cindy: "We need to stop the negativity."

Um, ok, Cindy. I know this is a tough time for your family. But murders are just a wee bit negative. Especially the murder of a child. Should we just forgive Casey and "stop the trial?"

I truly believe this family is hopelessly torn. They can't give up on Casey or she might as well be dead, too.

I am a lay minister and at one time did jail and prison ministry. One thing it is important for inmates to remember is that even though God forgives and you may get forgiveness from those you've harmed, you still owe a debt to society and society must be paid.

[Gatordog]

PPpfffftttsssss the soda! It just came outta my nose, now stop it Loretta!:hat:

ROTFL!!!!!!

Okay , that's it for you. No more liquids at all while at the computer. http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-laughing017.gif (http://www.freesmileys.org)

Or we get you a plastic drop sheet like the painters use.

Gator

[Amy]

George is the only one I was really feeling for there. He clearly mourns her so thoroughly I couldn't even hold his plea for Casey against him. His life is hell.

And the applause, oh, the applause...I go to a Baptist affiliated church... when I was a kid, no one applauded. IT WAS CHURCH! Then the children's choir began to get applause-it was just the kids. Then it was only sporadic after a particularly moving "performance". But now, since it tends to be more "concert" music than hymns, there's applause after every "performance".

I find it awkward and disturbing, myself. And from a theological point of view, it turns their "offering" of talent into something they will only be rewarded for on this earth. So there!

I'm Methodist and it was the same--it was CHURCH, there was no applause. Then, the applause started to reward the little kids, and it grew from there. I about fell over when, @ one of my uncle's funeral, a cousin sang a song @ the grave site, and the woman next to me applauded!!!! Never had that happen before (or since, @ least @ the funerals I have attended.)

[Woostock]

Can anybody explain what's happening to the pages. I am having a hard time getting to certain pages and they repeat themselves. Are others having this problem???

[javahog]

I am a lay minister and at one time did jail and prison ministry. One thing it is important for inmates to remember is that even though God forgives and you may get forgiveness from those you've harmed, you still owe a debt to society and society must be paid.

Ain't that the truth! Thank you for saying that.

[Justice Denied?]

And I about went over the edge when Cindy thanked Casey for giving her the gift of Caylee! And as one of them said what is given can be taken away. ( I din't know if that was Casey or cindy who said that) But I almost puked when Cindy spouted that crap!

I don't feel for Lee, I think he was referring to Casey the whole time, I feel he is still behind something and always felt he was more upset about Casey's situation then Caylees. JMO

Lee said "I will never forget what I promised you". frankly, I have a hard time picturing an uncle promising his less than 3 yr old niece anything. May just be me.

[Twinners]

Lee said "I will never forget what I promised you". frankly, I have a hard time picturing an uncle promising his less than 3 yr old niece anything. May just be me.

Unless it's that he will see that whoever killed her will pay, so do I.

[Amy]

Oh, the three children thing. Creepy. And how happy and blessed she felt when The Glowing Casey came to tell her she was pregnant. MEH

Guess she must have forgotten that brother Rick had to point it out to her that Casey was pregnant. And, that, in her FBI interview, she said she "suspected" but that she did not confront Casey. So, I wonder, @ what point the "glowing Casey" (who apparently was trying her darndest to HIDE her pregnancy) came and told her mom?

P.S.--what does MEH stand for, if I may ask. TIA

[Gatordog]

Oh, guess what? I actually found someone who doesn't think Casey killed Caylee. Guess what else? They were sitting at my dinner table this evening. We were sitting there talking about our day and I mentioned that I'd watched Caylee's memorial, which led this person to say they thought Casey was guilty of a lot of things, but killing her daughter wasn't one of them. I sat there, shocked beyond words, and thought, did I invite one of the Anthony's to dinner without realizing it? :eek: Then, I realized I hadn't. Those words had come out of my own father's mouth! :eek:

I could NOT believe it. I still can't. How could anyone not think she did it? I asked him why he didn't. He babbled on something about thinking she had help, someone who took care of it for her. I then went on a big tangent about how all the evidence points to her doing it and so forth. He then said something about me not knowing everything, how I'm not a detective and some other mumbo jumbo, which I, in true child fashion, didn't pay one bit of attention to. ;) When all was said and done, I really did have the feeling her looks affected his opinion of her. That's bad, IMO, because if it colors his opinion, it may color some of the juror's opinions too.

Needless to say, I'm not inviting him back for dinner tomorrow evening. I love him, but I just can't have that level of stress and anger in my life on a regular basis. At least not when I have a fork in my hand. :biggrin:

Well, I guess you can tell dad that even if she did have help, she's still guilty. The person who commissions the murder is as guilty as the one who commits the murder. When I first started posting, I had said that I hope they don't put any older men on the jury becaus I thought they would not see her as a person capable of killing. All the grandpas out there put me in my place quickly. :o

Gator

[javahog]

Can anybody explain what's happening to the pages. I am having a hard time getting to certain pages and they repeat themselves. Are others having this problem???

Those are ghost pages, they don't exist. Deepwater removed some posts way back, and a glitch resulted. It looks like there are more pages than there are. Just keep hitting refresh. Then when you refresh a lot of times and the same posts appear, try the next page...You are not missing anything...

Umm, IT guys? Could you maybe fix it?

[Gatordog]

anyone besides me think this case is a litle suspicious? Someone breaks into the house (at first they said no sign of forced entry) and waits til the girlfriend goes to the bathroom to take the little girl from the bedwhere the girlfriend and the two children are sleeping? Just don't sound right to me. MOO

Fox 35 just released the 911 tape. Girlfriend says the kitchen or back door was propped open with a brick and it wasn't like that when she went to bed.

Gator

[javahog]

Fox 35 just released the 911 tape. Girlfriend says the kitchen or back door was propped open with a brick and it wasn't like that when she went to bed.

Gator

Was it locked? I don't get people who don't lock their doors and windows at night, but then I was a kid when the Nightstalker was in our neck of the woods...

[Zingo]

anyone besides me think this case is a litle suspicious? Someone breaks into the house (at first they said no sign of forced entry) and waits til the girlfriend goes to the bathroom to take the little girl from the bedwhere the girlfriend and the two children are sleeping? Just don't sound right to me. MOO

Just the way he was overcome, dropped to the ground, then "popped" back up again to make another comment. And how he said, "I was at work trying to make an honest living."

Who but a crook makes it a point to say they are "making an honest living"????

My hubby is a psychiatrist. He definitely thinks something was "whacked" (professional terminology) with the distraught father. He seemed a little "too distraught."

[Gatordog]

www.myfoxorlando.com

announced that they have the full memorial service on the website for those who missed it.

[Justice Denied?]

LORETTA!! Are you one of them.....ummmmmmmm......Holy Rollers???!!

LOLLOLOLOL

I can see ya there singing, clapping hands ,with that big old hat, lipstick and hair Loretta!! (peeing my pants)

<3 Stolie in your pocket, huh?

Heah, cut it out! I'm one of those aisle rolling, pew jumping, tongue talking, hand clapping Holy Rollers. we love Jesus AND we have fun at church.

[Twinners]

Well, I guess you can tell dad that even if she did have help, she's still guilty. The person who commissions the murder is as guilty as the one who commits the murder. When I first started posting, I had said that I hope they don't put any older men on the jury becaus I thought they would not see her as a person capable of killing. All the grandpas out there put me in my place quickly. :o

Gator

I told him that having someone else kill your child is just as criminal as doing it yourself. He said he knew that, but Casey just looks too nice to do either one really.

*sigh*

To say I was disappointed would be putting it mildly. I hate the idea of Casey's looks getting her out of this mess. I never really thought it was much of a possibility until I heard my father talking tonight. Now, I'm happy to say I'm with you 1000% on not having any older men on the jury!

[Gatordog]

Just the way he was overcome, dropped to the ground, then "popped" back up again to make another comment. And how he said, "I was at work trying to make an honest living."

Who but a crook makes it a point to say they are "making an honest living"????

My hubby is a psychiatrist. He definitely thinks something was "whacked" (professional terminology) with the distraught father. He seemed a little "too distraught."

Well to me the levels changed to easily. One point his voice is all high and crackly and when he's asked a question, his whole demeanor changed and the voice was normal. This happened a few times. He never looked at the reporter or the camera.

The very first time I saw Susan Smith, I said she was lying. I commented that she was begging for the return of her children but not making eye contact and it looked as if she was having a hard time not to smile.

Gator

[Justice Denied?]

I think that all of us worship in different ways. It was meant to be that way, IMO. Some think that the clapping is for the one giving the performance and some see it as honoring the God who gave the talent. Most performers that I know would rather not have people clap for the performance God gave them the talent to give because people see it as taking credit for a talent they were given freely and chose to use to honor Him. As a one time actor and singer, I would simply raise my hand and point toward the One who gave me the ability to sing or act. Please, don't read too much into it. I guess that would make me Bapticostal?

That's exactly what I am. Raised southern Baptist, now Non-denominational, Full gospel. I thought the song leader at the church I used to attend made up Bapticostal. He used to tease me and say all Bapticostals had to sit on the left side of the church.

[lorettalockhorn]

Oh, guess what? I actually found someone who doesn't think Casey killed Caylee. Guess what else? They were sitting at my dinner table this evening. We were sitting there talking about our day and I mentioned that I'd watched Caylee's memorial, which led this person to say they thought Casey was guilty of a lot of things, but killing her daughter wasn't one of them. I sat there, shocked beyond words, and thought, did I invite one of the Anthony's to dinner without realizing it? :eek: Then, I realized I hadn't. Those words had come out of my own father's mouth! :eek:

I could NOT believe it. I still can't. How could anyone not think she did it? I asked him why he didn't. He babbled on something about thinking she had help, someone who took care of it for her. I then went on a big tangent about how all the evidence points to her doing it and so forth. He then said something about me not knowing everything, how I'm not a detective and some other mumbo jumbo, which I, in true child fashion, didn't pay one bit of attention to. ;) When all was said and done, I really did have the feeling her looks affected his opinion of her. That's bad, IMO, because if it colors his opinion, it may color some of the juror's opinions too.

Needless to say, I'm not inviting him back for dinner tomorrow evening. I love him, but I just can't have that level of stress and anger in my life on a regular basis. At least not when I have a fork in my hand. :biggrin:

LMAO I've asked my Dad to take it outside a couple of times (not over this). It'll be okie dokey tomorrow I'll betcha.

[SuzDuJour]

Well to me the levels changed to easily. One point his voice is all high and crackly and when he's asked a question, his whole demeanor changed and the voice was normal. This happened a few times. He never looked at the reporter or the camera.

The very first time I saw Susan Smith, I said she was lying. I commented that she was begging for the return of her children but not making eye contact and it looked as if she was having a hard time not to smile.

Gator

I wonder where the girlfriend was during the interview...and was that his mom wearing a Sheriff's Dept. jacket?

When is the next hearing due for Casey. (Sorry to be mixing up these two stories, hope it isn't confusing to keep up with!)

[Gatordog]

Well gator has been sleeping for one hour, and my 18.5 year old cat Suki has jumped on the bed so that means it's time to sleep. http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-sleep017.gif (http://www.freesmileys.org) Good night friends.

Gator

[lorettalockhorn]

I am a lay minister and at one time did jail and prison ministry. One thing it is important for inmates to remember is that even though God forgives and you may get forgiveness from those you've harmed, you still owe a debt to society and society must be paid.

So interesting your ministry! Amen to that debt.

[Justice Denied?]

It's so funny to hear Cindy going on and on about her adoring (blech) daughter, when according to Jose Baez, she didn't want this and wasn't going to watch it. It's amazing to me how they kiss up to Casey and she doesn't give a cr*p about any of them.

You know I finally figured out what this reminds me of - an abuse situation.
Daddy beats the devil out of everyone but they keep on trying to please him. "If I can just love him more, be a better kid, run the house more smoothly, keep the kids out of his hair." And he could care less. Behind her back he's laughing at her.

That's Casey and her family.

[lorettalockhorn]

Guess she must have forgotten that brother Rick had to point it out to her that Casey was pregnant. And, that, in her FBI interview, she said she "suspected" but that she did not confront Casey. So, I wonder, @ what point the "glowing Casey" (who apparently was trying her darndest to HIDE her pregnancy) came and told her mom?

P.S.--what does MEH stand for, if I may ask. TIA

This whole family is just meshuge. I should have paid more attention to what Lee attorney Mr. Luka had to say tonight on JVM; he can't be too proud. :eek: I thought what Cindy had to say was inappropriate.

MEH can mean anything from blase disinterest, to rubbish or utter BS. (When applied to the Ants, it should have a fixed meaning!)

[lorettalockhorn]

Just the way he was overcome, dropped to the ground, then "popped" back up again to make another comment. And how he said, "I was at work trying to make an honest living."

Who but a crook makes it a point to say they are "making an honest living"????

My hubby is a psychiatrist. He definitely thinks something was "whacked" (professional terminology) with the distraught father. He seemed a little "too distraught."

That's gotta be interesting!

I thought the way the guy's voice changed after his first crying jag was eerie. I did a double take to see if someone else was speaking.

[Justice Denied?]

I TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU!!!

Lee KNOWS something!.... At the memorial service he was obviously talking in codes and sending messages to "CMA" which stands for Casey Marie Anthony... He knows she did it... and he will never break his promise of telling!... Not for one minute I thought he was talking about Caylee, the CMA was a way of sending casey a message!

This family is so "weird" ... I have never seen anything like it.... I'm almost convinced that Lee is the biological father of Caylee... There's a "big secret in this family", I hope we'll be able to know what's really going on at the trial!.... Casy knows how to manipulate every single one of them, and I think is because there's a "big secret" they only know.

I hope they do a DNA on uncle Lee, as well as George!

At first, I thought that was probably more of Casey's bull, but I am wondering more and more all the time.

[lorettalockhorn]

Heah, cut it out! I'm one of those aisle rolling, pew jumping, tongue talking, hand clapping Holy Rollers. we love Jesus AND we have fun at church.

hehehe Nobody at my church even wears a hat. I'm tellin' ya, we've got sticks You Know Where! But still take joy in it all.

[Justice Denied?]

Yeah knowing her she purchased some goodies to munch on while she listened and got a bra and panties to match for the service. lol jmo

You mean like white cotton sports bra and granny panties cause she's in jail and that's all they allow? AWWWWWWWW......

[Amy]

I have to have cushionned pews, L.! :D

Oh, and I wasn't into the "stand up, sit down, stand up, kneel, stand up," thing. When I go to church I just want to SIT for gosh sakes (I have a very bad knee from a motorcycle accident).

Anyway, took us 11 years, but hubby and I finally decided we couldn't attend church together. So I go my way on Sundays, and he goes his.

That was what was nice @ the Methodist church. Stand up for a song, stay up for the prayer, then sit til the last song where you stand up again. No kneeling and up down up down stuff. Oh, I guess we did stand up one time in the middle, for the doxology after the offering. Haven't been for a time, so don't know if it's still how they do it.

[Justice Denied?]

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Gator

How about, " Get along little dogie. If you can't run with the bigdogs, don't get off the porch".

[lorettalockhorn]

I wonder where the girlfriend was during the interview...and was that his mom wearing a Sheriff's Dept. jacket?

When is the next hearing due for Casey. (Sorry to be mixing up these two stories, hope it isn't confusing to keep up with!)

Not sure who was who in the clip I watched, but I just noticed this at a story on myfoxorlando: Merchant did say that investigators are identifying and talking to registered sex offenders in the area.
Authorities say at least 25 registered sex offenders live near the missing girl's home.

And these people don't lock the effing door. :cuss:

Not sure when Casey's next court date is. Baez has been saying that he expects to file a motion for change of venue soon.

BTW One of the attorneys on NG, Raymond Dzudicek(sp?) says that there should be another attorney at the helm; that Baez isn't qualified and has made too many missteps.

[SuzDuJour]

re: missing 5 year old girl.

I found this to be interesting - it is from the comment section of the video link:

"I actually know someone who knows of this family and also lives close by, the 17 year old is the father's girlfriend who put the child to bed and the 2 year old could be the 17 year olds child, the little girl has a 3 year old brother who has not been mentioned. the 5year old girl and 3 year old boy have the same mother, but the father has had custody of them for a while, not sure why"

[wind149]

I am so glad that I am not the only one who thinks this display this a.m. was disgusting, and as many of you said ,what else could you expect out of these ass holes??? I was appalled to say the least at what Lee blathered on about and then I remember about the time G was speaking, I had the tech at my house as my DSL was not working with the new computer so I missed the part (PUKE HURL) caught it on NG that WE ALL should write a letter to CASEY? I think he needs another trip to the nuthatch! He would not like what I would say to his skank daughter and I am sure millions of people would also write some hateful things so what in hell does he expect the world to do? Buy all the bullcrap about Z and not hear and see how his daughter has acted these past 7 months??? That she is as innocent as poor Caylee really was??? When are these idiots gonna get a clue??? Not even the body being found three blocks away where CA had spent time as a child playing? The duct tape over the child's mouth?? This child did not die by accident or naturally and to hear these ass holes, their daughter is a victim too, that she is totally blameless in this homicide, that somebody else murdered the child.

Most people I know that have children have said that even though they love them, they would not stand behind them or forgive them and these morons spew the I love my daughter and she is innocent crap at a memorial for their DEAD granddaughter, why in hell did they have to bring her up today? Even the minister did not mention her, he at least was realistic and sensitive. It was supposed to be about C and instead Cindy blathers on how C reminded her of CA as a child, we could have all done without that visual and I am really pissed that she blew off LP and Tim, they had good intentions, they searched gator filled ponds, many acres of land, LP bailed her sorry ass out, like I said they speak the truth and she is too stupid and still so deep in denial and I am almost sure she will till CA dies in prison either in her cell or on a gurney.

[SuzDuJour]

Thanks for the reply Loretta!

Did you hear the 911 call on this link?

http://www.news4jax.com/news/18680086/detail.html

[Justice Denied?]

CMA - Casey Marie Anthony. You know, that was really creepy. I never bought into the rumors, but now, I'm not so sure. His emotion and words were meant for his sister and it made my skin crawl.

Gator

"Its been so lon since I've seen you and held you" Doesn't sound proper for a sister and certainly not a todler niece. More like a lover. IMO

[SuzDuJour]

Nite Old Soul!!

I'm at work for another hour and 1/2...getting sleepy, very sleepy!!!

Somebody keep me awake!

[lorettalockhorn]

Thanks for the reply Loretta!

Did you hear the 911 call on this link?

http://www.news4jax.com/news/18680086/detail.html

Thanks for the link, just listened to it. Very hard to understand, and the woman doesn't seem to be able to tell the operator that Haleigh has blonde hair. Or know how tall she is or how much she weighs. Gee, you'd think the Dad would make the call if he knows that. But he's busy freaking out and threatening to kill whoever if he finds them first. But since he's not out looking, that's not going to happen.

Becoming more and more jaded every day. Not only to parents not know how to protect children, they don't seem to know what they look like. :confused:

[browneyes106]

wow. The more I see of Lee smacking on the inside of his wrist (intimate, isn't it) after desperately moaning CMA and promising not to forget the promise he made...the more creeped out I am. Whichever he is referring to its weird.

I agree that was weird. Lee Anthony for some reason looks really creppy with a shaved head.