Caylee Anthony Case Discussion Only

[beachbum]

Sure would like to know if there is some website that has the 400 page documents that we could read in th is case. NG seems to have a copy because she picks it up and kind of like showing the audience --all this information in here...I know there are alot of things they are not releasing.
Hopefully it will all add up to a conviction for her.

[ErrinSpelling]

Has anyone heard anymore about the dumpster by Casey's boyfriends house?
There was alot of talk about it and I havent heard anymore. There is so much of this convention stuff on hard to catch the news.

ITA that I hate they have let her out of jail --again.:flamemad:

it would be wonderful if she doesn't pass the 2 conditions , 1 was undisclosed & i don't know what the other is, but i can hope.

[tv]

He is turning red now and not really answering questions. they need to replace him IMOI've always really liked him and enjoyed his commentary but if he's going to start hedging his answers because he has his own agenda then I agree he should go.

[tv]

so it's not just me...his heart doesn't seem to be in it...if NG pushes him, he'll say he doesn't really believe what he just said.
Yep, he's really squirming. I've never seen him like that before.

[ErrinSpelling]

is he having a midlife crisis,tired of being on the side of justice?

[lighthousedazy]

I know the Orlando LE are doing a great job and want to get all their T's crossed, but they should get in touch with LE in Lafayette, Ga. Missing 911 police dispatcher, Theresa Parker's body has never been found, but they have arrested her husband Samuel Parker and charged him with murder. http://www.timesfreepress.com/news/2008/feb/05/husband-arrested-missing-dispatcher-case/
I know they found her blood in the hatchback latch of his car, but I would think they have just as much evidence in Casey Anthony's car. There is another case of a murder conviction in Atlanta where the body was never found, but I can't remember the names, but I think the perp later revealed in prison where the burned remains were buried. JMO

[One2Snoop]

Interesting info on NG about who posted bail for Casey....

snip
With me now is that bounty hunter, Leonard Padilla. Mr. Padilla, my understanding is you decided that your original theory that Caylee was alive was false. You got no cooperation from the Anthony family, according to you...

LEONARD PADILLA, BOUNTY HUNTER: That`s right.

GRACE: ... in trying to find the little girl. And then you made an offer. If you, mom, Casey, will help me find little Caylee, I`ll go back on your bond and get you out. But they refused to do that.

PADILLA: That`s correct. And I can understand Jose, the attorney, you know, posturing. But you know, I have to tell you this, that approximately an hour before I was informed that somebody was posting the bond -- and this was before the bond was actually posted -- I received a call. And I thought it a strange call, asking me if I thought that she was a flight risk in any way, shape or form. And I told the gentleman, I says, No, she`s not a flight risk at all, and I don`t think that she`d be a threat...

GRACE: A flight risk? She can`t even keep a tank of gas. http://www.mysmiley.net/imgs/smile/sign/sign0020.gif (http://www.mysmiley.net/free-rolleye-smileys.php)

PADILLA: Right. So she`s not going to run. The only thing I suggested to the individual, I says, I don`t know if you`re suggesting that you`re going to get involved in bailing or...

GRACE: Why you are being mysterious? You`re on national TV. I`m asking you questions. Why are you saying, "the individual"? Who called you?

PADILLA: When I asked -- I don`t know. When I asked the name of the person, he said, well, he`d call me back later on and explain why he was calling, and that was basically the end the conversation.

GRACE: So you don`t know who were talking to.

PADILLA: No. No. No. I have an idea, but...

GRACE: Well, don`t you have -- you`re a bounty hunter and you don`t have caller ID?

PADILLA: Yes, I do. It was out of 615 area code.

GRACE: Which means?

PADILLA: Well, I think there`s a production company down there made a deal with the new attorney. And they`ve hired -- you know, they`ve gone the whole thing, book and movie rights and all that, and they`re the ones that are behind guaranteeing the bond.

GRACE: Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa! Repeat?

PADILLA: I think that they`re behind guaranteeing the bond in exchange for some book and movie rights, or something to that effect. That`s the impression I have.

GRACE: Why do you think that? And of course, everybody, 615 is the Nashville area code. And this press media release, which I might add again, was horribly written, just -- long story short, they`re in Nashville. So you put two and two together, and you think it`s a book or movie deal?

PADILLA: I think so. I did not know where the -- this is the first I`ve heard of the press release. I wasn`t aware of that. But I think there`s something that`s going on, and that`s why Cindy has hired a new attorney.

GRACE: OK.

PADILLA: You can see these things unfolding in this direction.

snip
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0809/04/ng.01.html

[beachbum]

I am posting this for all the people who have claimed they have seen Caylee--remember there is a $225,000 reward so if you think you see her dont hesitate to call the authorities. Dont be afraid to get involved. (I really think they may see a child that looks like her-from all the craziness of this story I fear for the child)jmo

Below is a website of pictures of Casey that I havent seen posted.

http://hubpages.com/hub/caseyanthony

[ErrinSpelling]

I know the Orlando LE are doing a great job and want to get all their T's crossed, but they should get in touch with LE in Lafayette, Ga. Missing 911 police dispatcher, Theresa Parker's body has never been found, but they have arrested her husband Samuel Parker and charged him with murder. http://www.timesfreepress.com/news/2008/feb/05/husband-arrested-missing-dispatcher-case/
I know they found her blood in the hatchback latch of his car, but I would think they have just as much evidence in Casey Anthony's car. There is another case of a murder conviction in Atlanta where the body was never found, but I can't remember the names, but I think the perp later revealed in prison where the burned remains were buried. JMO
i am not seeing a year, for when he murdered theresa.
i think i know the last case ,with the burned remailns, but can't remember the name.

[One2Snoop]

I am posting this for all the people who have claimed they have seen Caylee--remember there is a $225,000 reward so if you think you see her dont hesitate to call the authorities. Dont be afraid to get involved. (I really think they may see a child that looks like her-from all the craziness of this story I fear for the child)jmo

Below is a website of pictures of Casey that I havent seen posted.

http://hubpages.com/hub/caseyanthony

I posted a similar link the other day - its back there in the sea of posts somewhere LOL.

[lighthousedazy]

i am not seeing a year, for when he murdered theresa.
i think i know the last case ,with the burned remailns, but can't remember the name.
I believe she went missing in March 2007 and he was arrested in Feb. 2008. jmo

[beachbum]

I posted a similar link the other day - its back there in the sea of posts somewhere LOL.

Sorry for the repost. The pictures are just disgusting to me. Shows what we are dealing with but these are supposed to be
during the time she was looking for Caylee on her own. Yeah Right!

[ErrinSpelling]

I believe she went missing in March 2007 and he was arrested in Feb. 2008. jmo

well that is fairly fast, considering it was going to take at least 3 years to arrest scott peterson,if they didn't find laci.

[lighthousedazy]

Sorry for the repost. The pictures are just disgusting to me. Shows what we are dealing with but these are supposed to be
during the time she was looking for Caylee on her own. Yeah Right!They are disgusting to me too. I hope little Caylee has justice. :rose:

[odette]

Sure would like to know if there is some website that has the 400 page documents that we could read in th is case. NG seems to have a copy because she picks it up and kind of like showing the audience --all this information in here...I know there are alot of things they are not releasing.
Hopefully it will all add up to a conviction for her.

Try this link for the documents.

Court Documents - PDF

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/media/acrobat/2008-08/41844520.pdf

[SaraSidle]

They are disgusting to me too. I hope little Caylee has justice. :rose:

This is so bizarre. In One Day-Thursday-I was out of town today and
1 I hear on tv that Padilla says Lee is Caylee's father
2 she is getting out of Jail. all bonds are being paid
3 movie/book people are anonymously posting bond for Casey and have provided a lawyer for Cind and George. This case is making me tired .I sure wish they would find Caylee soon. :rose::rose::rose: Sara

[One2Snoop]

This is so bizarre. In One Day-Thursday-I was out of town today and
1 I hear on tv that Padilla says Lee is Caylee's father
2 she is getting out of Jail. all bonds are being paid
3 movie/book people are anonymously posting bond for Casey and have provided a lawyer for Cind and George. This case is making me tired .I sure wish they would find Caylee soon. :rose::rose::rose: Sara

Padilla needs to shut up and go home. :cuss: His 15 minutes of fame are over IMO.

1. :eek: :confused:

2. :patriot:

3. :shrug:

[crowamongdoves]

I can't believe that CA & GA are getting a lawyer, and there are plans for a book or movie deal!!! This makes me sick, my god just when I thought this family couldn't disgust me more they go and prove me wrong again. :flamemad:
This is supposed to be about Caylee!!!
I agree with Rose that this family seems to be made for Springer:eek:

[deacon]

I can't believe that CA & GA are getting a lawyer, and there are plans for a book or movie deal!!! This makes me sick, my god just when I thought this family couldn't disgust me more they go and prove me wrong again. :flamemad:
This is supposed to be about Caylee!!!
I agree with Rose that this family seems to be made for Springer:eek:

Sorry, I don't think this has EVER been about Caylee. It has always been about each individual. Apple/Tree.

[rosejustrose]

Padilla needs to shut up and go home. :cuss: His 15 minutes of fame are over IMO.

1. :eek: :confused:

2. :patriot:

3. :shrug:

ITA. It seems like everyone is in this for their 15 minutes, including the Anthony family. Can't wait until the neighbors, friends and relatives all start weighing in with their "insightful" little tidbits about the family dynamics/dysfunction. IMO, the only focus on Caylee has been by the searchers and folks on message boards. JMO.

[rosejustrose]

Sorry, I don't think this has EVER been about Caylee. It has always been about each individual. Apple/Tree.

Rotten Apple/Diseased Tree. IMO.

[deacon]

Rotten Apple/Diseased Tree. IMO.

It certainly appears that way.

[rosejustrose]

I'm sure this has been asked and answered but I can't find it. I don't recall seeing Caylee's carseat in the photos of the car. Had it been taken out for processing by LE before the photos? Did the Anthony's take it out when they recovered the car from the impound? Did the impound folks make a note whether or not there was a carseat in the car? Just curious. TIA for anyone who can provide some answers.:)

[applesandorange]

I'm sure this has been asked and answered but I can't find it. I don't recall seeing Caylee's carseat in the photos of the car. Had it been taken out for processing by LE before the photos? Did the Anthony's take it out when they recovered the car from the impound? Did the impound folks make a note whether or not there was a carseat in the car? Just curious. TIA for anyone who can provide some answers.:)


Good morning Rose! I think I remember reading somewhere that the carseat was in the car. I remember thinking that if Casey had given her to a sitter who supposedly was taking Caylee to all kinds of parks and stuff that she would most likely have given her the carseat too. Of course Casey could always say that the nanny had her own carseat for Caylee. JMO

[rosejustrose]

Good morning Rose! I think I remember reading somewhere that the carseat was in the car. I remember thinking that if Casey had given her to a sitter who supposedly was taking Caylee to all kinds of parks and stuff that she would most likely have given her the carseat too. Of course Casey could always say that the nanny had her own carseat for Caylee. JMO

She's out of jail, again:cuss:


http://www.local6.com/video/17399373/index.html

Thanks for the carseat information. I knew it had been asked and answered there's just such an overwhelming amount of information on these threads. I hope LE has it and is testing it. I'd like to see them let Casey get home, get comfortable, have a hot shower, order a meat lovers pizza and them slam her up with murder charges before nightfall. She deserves to be jerked around as much as possible. JMHO.

[applesandorange]

She's out of jail, again:cuss:


http://www.local6.com/video/17399373/index.html

Thanks for the carseat information. I knew it had been asked and answered there's just such an overwhelming amount of information on these threads. I hope LE has it and is testing it. I'd like to see them let Casey get home, get comfortable, have a hot shower, order a meat lovers pizza and them slam her up with murder charges before nightfall. She deserves to be jerked around as much as possible. JMHO.


I agree. Let her think she's home for awhile. Let her get a little comfy and then slam it to her. I hope LE soon finds enough evidence that they can arrest her on murder charges.

[beachbum]

This is so bizarre. In One Day-Thursday-I was out of town today and
1 I hear on tv that Padilla says Lee is Caylee's father
2 she is getting out of Jail. all bonds are being paid
3 movie/book people are anonymously posting bond for Casey and have provided a lawyer for Cind and George. This case is making me tired .I sure wish they would find Caylee soon. :rose::rose::rose: Sara


Oh my are they reporting that Lee is Caylee's father?

[One2Snoop]

Oh my are they reporting that Lee is Caylee's father?

Padilla insinuated that little tidbit. Consider the source.

[applesandorange]

Oh my are they reporting that Lee is Caylee's father?


Yes, Padilla has said that because his thoughts on the dna and whether or not it was Casey's dna or Caylee's dna. He thought that the logical answer to this is that Lee is Caylee's father because of the same genetics. IMO he doesn't know much about dna. I think he's gone off his rocker with this insinuation. JMO

[applesandorange]

Padilla insinuated that little tidbit. Consider the source.


Exactly.

[One2Snoop]

New video of Casey and Caylee...

http://www.wftv.com/video/17398425/index.html

(damage control?)

[One2Snoop]

GMA interviews Elizabeth Vargas from 20/20

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5256898063040878497&ei=UynBSMeLLITErwKE5Nm7CQ&q=caylee+anthony&vt=lf

[Brainstorm]

Don't worry, Errin. You're not confused, lost or alone. The thread for Caylee has been moved. We're all still here, we're all still pissed at what's going on and we're all still hoping and praying that someone, somewhere will consider Caylee's rights and see that justice is done for that baby. IMO, it's a travesty of justice that Casey will once again be home. What does it take to bring murder, even manslaughter, charges against her? I'm so afraid that this sick, twisted family may very well get away with Caylee's death and that one day poor little Caylee will be nothing more than a memory to some and nothing to the Anthonys. JMHO.

Rotten Apple/Diseased Tree. IMO.

I was away for a few hrs and also got confused,thought, wth!
I didnt doubt for a second tho that ya'll/we're still here somewhere.
I am so sickened by this mess, I had to take a break.I AM COUNTING ON TIM MILLER and the searchers to find Caylee.Im putting my prayers and support with him/them. The Anthonys are enjoying this attention way too much.
It reminds me of AG, after Tara went missing.Pointing fingers at others while trying to keep the TRUTH hidden/covered, IMOO

[applesandorange]

I was away for a few hrs and also got confused,thought, wth!
I didnt doubt for a second tho that ya'll/we're still here somewhere.
I am so sickened by this mess, I had to take a break.I AM COUNTING ON TIM MILLER and the searchers to find Caylee.Im putting my prayers and support with him/them. The Anthonys are enjoying this attention way too much.
It reminds me of AG, after Tara went missing.Pointing fingers at others while trying to keep the TRUTH hidden/covered, IMOO


ITA. Also did anyone notice that in the video of Casey leaving the jail today she looked like she was SMILING?! I bet she's thinking she got away with murder. She reminded me of someone who was saying haha to the media. Grrr I can't even stand to look at her.

[Brainstorm]

ITA. Also did anyone notice that in the video of Casey leaving the jail today she looked like she was SMILING?! I bet she's thinking she got away with murder. She reminded me of someone who was saying haha to the media. Grrr I can't even stand to look at her.

I couldnt even bear to turn it on, this am, after hearing late last nite,that she would get out this am.
I am sick of this little self centered b/i/t/c/h and her enabling parents.
I do want to hear what is going on with Tim Miller and the searchers. GODS SPEED to them !!!!

[tv]

I wonder what explanation Casey has given to her parents about searching for chloroform on the internet and it's presence in the car? It seems they will defend any story she comes up with. What will it take to get them to cooperate with LE and admit that Casey is a big liar?

[One2Snoop]

Excerpt: As an FYI, a source close to the investigation has told me that ABC News 20/20 has offered the Anthony family one million dollars for an exclusive interview. The same source claims that AIM Productions from Nashville has also offered the family one million for book and movie rights.

David Lohr - Caylee Anthony : Ground Zero : Day 1 (http://blogs.discovery.com/criminal_report/2008/09/caylee-anthon-1.html)

:eek: No way jose! :mad: Why aren't they looking for Caylee?

[deacon]

I went back and read some of the news posts and am more convinced than ever the grandma knows Caylee is dead. Read the post from her myspace account. Sounds to me like she knows it all.

[rosejustrose]

ITA. Also did anyone notice that in the video of Casey leaving the jail today she looked like she was SMILING?! I bet she's thinking she got away with murder. She reminded me of someone who was saying haha to the media. Grrr I can't even stand to look at her.

She did look like a smug b/i/t/c/h with all those men surrounding her, protecting her. Where was Caylee's protection when she needed it? Casey's quite the superstar in her own mind. I doubt she realizes that all this attention she's getting is for all the wrong reasons. No one idolizes her, they despise her, IMO. She may very well get away with murder if the prosecutor doesn't build a strong case and/or Caylee isn't found. I'm with Brainstorm, my prayers are with Tim Miller and the searchers. IMO, they are Caylee's only hope at being brought to her final, peaceful resting place. :rose:

JMO.

[One2Snoop]

I wonder what explanation Casey has given to her parents about searching for chloroform on the internet and it's presence in the car? It seems they will defend any story she comes up with. What will it take to get them to cooperate with LE and admit that Casey is a big liar?

Good question. Maybe the forthcoming 2 mil will help :shrug: but then again, maybe not.

[rosejustrose]

:eek: No way jose! :mad: Why aren't they looking for Caylee?

What a sec!!! Isn't the policy of the American talk shows that they NOT pay for interviews?? WTH?? Is 20/20 out of its mind? Also, since when do criminals benefit from their crimes? And, that includes those who aid and abet, IMO.

[One2Snoop]

I went back and read some of the news posts and am more convinced than ever the grandma knows Caylee is dead. Read the post from her myspace account. Sounds to me like she knows it all.

On one of the first three 911 calls she says to one of the 911 operators that her grandaughters been missing for at least month. So yes she knew. Why in gods name didn't she call 911 back then we'll never know but she obviously shouldn't have waited for Casey to find her.

[rosejustrose]

I went back and read some of the news posts and am more convinced than ever the grandma knows Caylee is dead. Read the post from her myspace account. Sounds to me like she knows it all.

ITA. I wonder what took her so long to contact 911. If she was so concerned on July 3rd why did she wait until July 16th to call the cops? She knew something was wrong and I think George did, too. I think George had it all figured out when he realized Casey was the one who "stole" the gas cans. BTW, where were the Anthonys and where was Caylee on June 24th when the Anthony shed was robbed of the gas cans? JMHO.

[odette]

She did look like a smug b/i/t/c/h with all those men surrounding her, protecting her. Where was Caylee's protection when she needed it? Casey's quite the superstar in her own mind. I doubt she realizes that all this attention she's getting is for all the wrong reasons. No one idolizes her, they despise her, IMO. She may very well get away with murder if the prosecutor doesn't build a strong case and/or Caylee isn't found. I'm with Brainstorm, my prayers are with Tim Miller and the searchers. IMO, they are Caylee's only hope at being brought to her final, peaceful resting place. :rose:

JMO.

Exactly!! :cuss:

[rosejustrose]

On one of the first three 911 calls she says to one of the 911 operators that her grandaughters been missing for at least month. So yes she knew. Why in gods name didn't she call 911 back then we'll never know but she obviously shouldn't have waited for Casey to find her.

IIRC, the very first 911 call was Cindy wanting to have Casey arrested for stealing money and a car. I always thought Cindy was threatening to have Casey arrested to get her to tell her where Caylee was. At that point I think the realization that Caylee was gone, and gone for good, hit Cindy so hard she just started to mentally deteriorate. Just look at what she has become today. JMHO and no offense intended.

[deacon]

ITA. I wonder what took her so long to contact 911. If she was so concerned on July 3rd why did she wait until July 16th to call the cops? She knew something was wrong and I think George did, too. I think George had it all figured out when he realized Casey was the one who "stole" the gas cans. BTW, where were the Anthonys and where was Caylee on June 24th when the Anthony shed was robbed of the gas cans? JMHO.

She says in that posting something about casey taking her grandaughter away. It just sounded to me like she knew then Caylee wasn't coming back. Why? I think she knew then she was dead. JMO:(

[One2Snoop]

What a sec!!! Isn't the policy of the American talk shows that they NOT pay for interviews?? WTH?? Is 20/20 out of its mind? Also, since when do criminals benefit from their crimes? And, that includes those who aid and abet, IMO.

ABC denies they're paying the Anthonys...

2:17 p.m. Some sources close to the Casey Anthony case said that ABC had offered the Anthonys compensation for an interview on the network's show 20/20. However, ABC denies those reports. "It's an ABC News policy not to pay for interviews," said Alyssa Apple, a New York-based publicist for the network.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/orange/orl-casey-anthony-090508,0,7519627.story

[rosejustrose]

I don't know how to pull a link from one thread to another but on the informational posts it says that Casey has to stay within a certain distance from a regular phone line for regular monitoring. I'm wondering with all the tropical storms and hurricanes heading down on Florida, it's likely phone/power/water/etc. services will go out. What happens then? It seems risky to let someone like her out during this time of year. She could just get lost in the chaos following these types of natural disasters. JMO.

[minga]

The Bond Girl? She's going to eat that up. :rolleyes:

[applesandorange]

I don't know how to pull a link from one thread to another but on the informational posts it says that Casey has to stay within a certain distance from a regular phone line for regular monitoring. I'm wondering with all the tropical storms and hurricanes heading down on Florida, it's likely phone/power/water/etc. services will go out. What happens then? It seems risky to let someone like her out during this time of year. She could just get lost in the chaos following these types of natural disasters. JMO.


Good point Rose. I hadn't even thought about that. I wonder if any LE has.

[One2Snoop]

Good point Rose. I hadn't even thought about that. I wonder if any LE has.

I'm sure they have a backup plan of some sort. Besides if I were her I'd be petrified to step foot outside with all the media - webcams and protesters.

[One2Snoop]

I don't know how to pull a link from one thread to another but on the informational posts it says that Casey has to stay within a certain distance from a regular phone line for regular monitoring. I'm wondering with all the tropical storms and hurricanes heading down on Florida, it's likely phone/power/water/etc. services will go out. What happens then? It seems risky to let someone like her out during this time of year. She could just get lost in the chaos following these types of natural disasters. JMO.

It's fairly easy to do - go to the news updates thread and find the post you want to quote. Use the multi quote option - that thingy at the bottom right hand in the post that has a plus sign and " mark on it. Click that. Come back to the discussion thread and select post reply Once you do that you should see an option (just below the blank space where you're going to put your post) and it says You have selected 1 post that is not part of this thread. Quote this post as well,Make your post and hit sumbit reply.

[applesandorange]

I'm sure they have a backup plan of some sort. Besides if I were her I'd be petrified to step foot outside with all the media - webcams and protesters.

This is true. I know I wouldn't want to go outside with all of that going on.

[rosejustrose]

The Bond Girl? She's going to eat that up. :rolleyes:


LOL:D Bond Girl - no; sneaky, lying, coward - yes. She can't face up to what she's done so she may try to run. JMHO.

[soccermom]

:eek: No way jose! :mad: Why aren't they looking for Caylee?


Why dont they take that one million and spend it on searching for Caylee---we all need closure and that poor sweet child needs a proper burial (sorry but I believe she is dead)

GRRRRRRRRR yes I agree ---- on her release today it does look like she was smiling---what a witch!!!!!!!

[beachbum]

LOL:D Bond Girl - no; sneaky, lying, coward - yes. She can't face up to what she's done so she may try to run. JMHO.

Dont be surprised if her parents dont help her to run but not sure she could get away unless she had really good disguise because her face has been plastered everywhere and the pap are all over her house. Even if she is not charged she is going to have trouble going anywhere--EVER! I would say her life is pretty much over unless she tells what happened to Caylee or where Caylee is or they put her in some kind of protection. Im glad Im not her. JMO

[Woostock]

Every day I hope that it will be the day Caylee is found if, indeed, she is deceased which looks likely to be the case. I can't get over the way Casey has managed to get out of jail again and is playing her cards close to her chest. In the court of public opinion she is a baby killer, simple as that. I am trying very hard to keep a positive attitude that she will be charged with her daughters' murder, eventually. And I emphasize eventually====patience is a virtue!!
In the meantime, the circus otherwise known as the Anthony family keeps on going. In this case the apple did not fall far from the tree. Thank goodness for Tim and his faithful searchers; they are the goodness to cancel out the evil in this sordid case.

[beachbum]

IIRC, the very first 911 call was Cindy wanting to have Casey arrested for stealing money and a car. I always thought Cindy was threatening to have Casey arrested to get her to tell her where Caylee was. At that point I think the realization that Caylee was gone, and gone for good, hit Cindy so hard she just started to mentally deteriorate. Just look at what she has become today. JMHO and no offense intended.

On the phone when she called 911 to report Casey and that Caylee was missing and they didnt know they were being recorded didnt Cindy say something like Im taking her away from you--Im calling child services and.......etc. At that point she-Cindy may not have known she was dead because she had just found Casey. I feel Casey has told her parents what really happened.

You know Casey gives us this story that someone took Caylee in the park. That is believable this day and time-(children are not even safe in their own bed) but its all the other stories and her actions and things she has done that point that this story cannot be true. She is the one that makes that story unbelievable. All of her lies. All of the stories she has told the authorities and all the wild goose chases she led them on. So why would be not point our fingers at her? JMO

[rosejustrose]

Dont be surprised if her parents dont help her to run but not sure she could get away unless she had really good disguise because her face has been plastered everywhere and the pap are all over her house. Even if she is not charged she is going to have trouble going anywhere--EVER! I would say her life is pretty much over unless she tells what happened to Caylee or where Caylee is or they put her in some kind of protection. Im glad Im not her. JMO

I wish I could believe that but Karla Homolka managed to get married, have a baby and leave Canada for an obscure existence in the Caribbean, IIRC. Time seems to make people forget and Casey is being very, very quiet these days. But, I am glad I'm not her. I can't imagine what it would be like to be able to kill a baby, my own no less. JMHO.

[rosejustrose]

On the phone when she called 911 to report Casey and that Caylee was missing and they didnt know they were being recorded didnt Cindy say something like Im taking her away from you--Im calling child services and.......etc. At that point she-Cindy may not have known she was dead because she had just found Casey. I feel Casey has told her parents what really happened.

You know Casey gives us this story that someone took Caylee in the park. That is believable this day and time-(children are not even safe in their own bed) but its all the other stories and her actions and things she has done that point that this story cannot be true. She is the one that makes that story unbelievable. All of her lies. All of the stories she has told the authorities and all the wild goose chases she led them on. So why would be not point our fingers at her? JMO

So true. I watched the Polly Klaas story on ID TV the other day and couldn't believe how easily she was snatched from her own bedroom with two friends watching. But, according to Casey, this was not a stranger abduction, Casey supposedly knows who has Caylee. She just won't tell. JMO.

[Woostock]

There is always the chance she will not be found guilty if and when this goes to trial. If the body is found, then she most likely will be found guilty with all the other evidence. Casey in some ways is dumb like a fox. She waited so long before anyone even knew Caylee was missing. So she got a head start and makes it more difficult for LE. Frankly I didn't think Casey was smart enough to outwit the LE and I hope I am right. She had to have screwed up somewhere and they will get her if she did cause her daughter's death. the whole family is whacked-where did Cindy think Casey went every day if she didn't work for two years..I find the family very strange and as more info comes out, the more strange they look.

[ErrinSpelling]

NG: now
there wasn't any oxygen to breathe, at all, in the trunk?
is that what they said?
woah, whoah, whoah, whoah

[ErrinSpelling]

There is always the chance she will not be found guilty if and when this goes to trial. If the body is found, then she most likely will be found guilty with all the other evidence. Casey in some ways is dumb like a fox. She waited so long before anyone even knew Caylee was missing. So she got a head start and makes it more difficult for LE. Frankly I didn't think Casey was smart enough to outwit the LE and I hope I am right. She had to have screwed up somewhere and they will get her if she did cause her daughter's death. the whole family is whacked-where did Cindy think Casey went every day if she didn't work for two years..I find the family very strange and as more info comes out, the more strange they look.

i know you are right.LE knows how to deal with sociopaths...they justhave the stupid laws, made for the rights of criminals working against them.

[One2Snoop]

NG: now
there wasn't any oxygen to breathe, at all, in the trunk?
is that what they said?
woah, whoah, whoah, whoah

Saturated the air?

[ErrinSpelling]

Saturated the air?

that sounds like murder, but i have no understanding of chemistry.

[ErrinSpelling]

what does that mean, dr patricia saunders: cindy & george can only stretch their denial so far?...they seem to be very good at it.i think they think they can keep it up indefinitely.

[SaraSidle]

that sounds like murder, but i have no understanding of chemistry.

the chloroform takes the oxygen out of the air causing a person to stop breathing and it can also cause someone to asphyxiate (choke on vomit).

Now the question is.......If the dogs smelled decomp in the back yard and the trunk what does that mean? So if the body was in the back yard deceased and then put in the truck why would anyone put chlorine in the trunk? Maybe to clean it and get rid of the smell????????

[One2Snoop]

what does that mean, dr patricia saunders: cindy & george can only stretch their denial so far?...they seem to be very good at it.i think they think they can keep it up indefinitely.

Strange comment IMO. I agree they're in denial but eventually they'll have to accept the fact that Caylee is no longer alive and Casey had a hand in her death somehow.

[ErrinSpelling]

the chloroform takes the oxygen out of the air causing a person to stop breathing and it can also cause someone to asphyxiate (choke on vomit).

Now the question is.......If the dogs smelled decomp in the back yard and the trunk what does that mean? So if the body was in the back yard deceased and then put in the truck why would anyone put chlorine in the trunk? Maybe to clean it and get rid of the smell????????

that is a complicated good question...i am afraid i did understand ,something you just said & the guy on NG.it's off topic, but scared me, half to death..i keep getting choked & liquid ,i guess acid,comes up.it scares me & it sounds like you can die.,, but just to explain,why i'm having trouble thinking, & should read & not talk.:)

[One2Snoop]

LOL Nancy just said to Daniel Horrowitz, she knows he must not clean house! Why is he so insistent Casey was using the cholorform as a cleaning agent? :punch: I'm with Nancy on this one Daniel, get real! :rolleyes:

[ErrinSpelling]

LOL Nancy just said to Daniel Horrowitz, she knows he must not clean house! Why is he so insistent Casey was using the cholorform as a cleaning agent? :punch: I'm with Nancy on this one Daniel, get real! :rolleyes:

lol..i told him to be quiet..they tried that 3 days ago, already...there would be white bleach marks,i read.
why: b/c he's a defense attorney is my answer.

[SaraSidle]

lol..i told him to be quiet..they tried that 3 days ago, already...there would be white bleach marks,i read.
why: b/c he's a defense attorney is my answer.

So what would be the sequence of events if the cadaver dogs found decomp in trunk and backyard and cholorform in the trunk????:shrug:

[beachbum]

lol..i told him to be quiet..they tried that 3 days ago, already...there would be white bleach marks,i read.
why: b/c he's a defense attorney is my answer.

Do you all remember Daniels wife was murdered a few years ago in their dream home in Calif. (he prob. doesnt clean) by a teen that was on drugs. He has just recently returned to tv. You think he might be more sympathic toward the victim---Caylee.

[lighthousedazy]

So what would be the sequence of events if the cadaver dogs found decomp in trunk and backyard and cholorform in the trunk????:shrug:This is eery, but I think she knocked the baby out with the chloroform, put her in the trunk (where she died) while she partied. The child probably stayed in the trunk until the next day or afternoon. She was seen backing the car up to the garage and borrowed a shovel from the neighbors and buried Caylee in the backyard. She got scared and dug her up, put her in a garbage bag and tossed the bag in the dumpster at the amscot store. Probably some loopholes, but this is just one theory and my opinion.

[One2Snoop]

This is eery, but I think she knocked the baby out with the chloroform, put her in the trunk (where she died) while she partied. The child probably stayed in the trunk until the next day or afternoon. She was seen backing the car up to the garage and borrowed a shovel from the neighbors and buried Caylee in the backyard. She got scared and dug her up, put her in a garbage bag and tossed the bag in the dumpster at the amscot store. Probably some loopholes, but this is just one theory and my opinion.

I agree with your theory - loopholes and all.

Good to see you LHD. :seeya:

[Blue Mermaid]

This is from David Lohr's myspace page:

September 05, 2008
Caylee Anthony : Ground Zero : Day 1 Update
I apologize for the late update. Today's search took much longer than I had initially expected.

As I mentioned earlier today, Tim Miller assigned me to a team of 12 searches, to search a "high priority" area with a K9 team.

<click the photos to enlarge them>
The area we searched was a dead end road near Moss Park. According to a spokesperson with EquuSearch, the area was deemed important by the Orange County Sherriff's Office. They declined to state the exact reason why the area was considered so important; however a search and rescue specialist told me that all of the high priority areas are based on either cell phone towers that pinged Casey Anthony's phone during the time Caylee went missing or areas where she was allegedly seen during that same timeframe.

The particular area we searched today was mostly swampy, with areas of loose sand and dense brush. Two dog handlers joined us in the search, one a cadaver dog and the other a K 9 that had been specifically trained to find bones

Shortly after beginning the search, my team did make two interesting finds, although it remains unclear if either is relevant to the investigation.

The first find consisted of two plastic bottles - bleach and clear ammonia - that had been discarded together next to a dirt trail. On the opposite end of that same trail, another team member found a child size book bag that was blue with a pink heart.

We flagged both discoveries and notified law enforcement of their whereabouts.

Several bones were also found during the search, including a small vertebra but none of them appeared to be human. Regardless, they were all flagged for closer inspection.

The remainder of the search was less productive. Mosquitoes, nats and fire ants could be found throughout the area and no matter how much bug spray we applied it was impossible to keep them off our bodies.

When I returned from the search I spoke with Robert Dummett, one of the search directors with Florida 3 Airboat Search and Rescue. I'll post more about that interview later tonight, along with some video and more photos.

Right now I am off to witness a protest that is supposed to take place in front of the Anthony family home. I have no intention of joining in and am only going in the off chance that Cindy Anthony might choose to make a statement.

Be sure to check back later!

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=112371488

[One2Snoop]

This is from David Lohr's myspace page:

September 05, 2008
Caylee Anthony : Ground Zero : Day 1 Update
I apologize for the late update. Today's search took much longer than I had initially expected.

As I mentioned earlier today, Tim Miller assigned me to a team of 12 searches, to search a "high priority" area with a K9 team.

<click the photos to enlarge them>
The area we searched was a dead end road near Moss Park. According to a spokesperson with EquuSearch, the area was deemed important by the Orange County Sherriff's Office. They declined to state the exact reason why the area was considered so important; however a search and rescue specialist told me that all of the high priority areas are based on either cell phone towers that pinged Casey Anthony's phone during the time Caylee went missing or areas where she was allegedly seen during that same timeframe.

The particular area we searched today was mostly swampy, with areas of loose sand and dense brush. Two dog handlers joined us in the search, one a cadaver dog and the other a K 9 that had been specifically trained to find bones

Shortly after beginning the search, my team did make two interesting finds, although it remains unclear if either is relevant to the investigation.

The first find consisted of two plastic bottles - bleach and clear ammonia - that had been discarded together next to a dirt trail. On the opposite end of that same trail, another team member found a child size book bag that was blue with a pink heart.

We flagged both discoveries and notified law enforcement of their whereabouts.

Several bones were also found during the search, including a small vertebra but none of them appeared to be human. Regardless, they were all flagged for closer inspection.

The remainder of the search was less productive. Mosquitoes, nats and fire ants could be found throughout the area and no matter how much bug spray we applied it was impossible to keep them off our bodies.

When I returned from the search I spoke with Robert Dummett, one of the search directors with Florida 3 Airboat Search and Rescue. I'll post more about that interview later tonight, along with some video and more photos.

Right now I am off to witness a protest that is supposed to take place in front of the Anthony family home. I have no intention of joining in and am only going in the off chance that Cindy Anthony might choose to make a statement.

Be sure to check back later!

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=112371488

I certainly hope it means something. I can't remember if Caylee's backpack was found in the car or not and if a description was given. Anyone else remember?

Thanks for posting and good to see you here Blue! :seeya:

[Blue Mermaid]

I certainly hope it means something. I can't remember if Caley's backpack was found in the car or not and if a description was given. Anyone else remember?

Thanks for posting and good to see you here Blue! :seeya:

Thanks, One2. I've been following this nightmare a little... such a tragedy.

Good to see you too! :rose:

[SaraSidle]

This is eery, but I think she knocked the baby out with the chloroform, put her in the trunk (where she died) while she partied. The child probably stayed in the trunk until the next day or afternoon. She was seen backing the car up to the garage and borrowed a shovel from the neighbors and buried Caylee in the backyard. She got scared and dug her up, put her in a garbage bag and tossed the bag in the dumpster at the amscot store. Probably some loopholes, but this is just one theory and my opinion.

Well it does fit the best Lighthouse. what a fiasco. I wonder if she looked it up on her computer before or after Caylee was deceased?

[soccermom]

Hey did anyone search the car that Casey borrowed from a friend?
You know the one she stole her check books from???

Hmmmmmmmmmm I wonder if Caylee DNA might be in there??

[One2Snoop]

Hey did anyone search the car that Casey borrowed from a friend?
You know the one she stole her check books from???

Hmmmmmmmmmm I wonder if Caylee DNA might be in there??

Good thought soccermom! I haven't seen anything posted but will keep my eyes open for info on it.

[soccermom]

Good thought soccermom! I haven't seen anything posted but will keep my eyes open for info on it.

Thanks :)

[One2Snoop]

I just read elsewhere someone had the thought that maybe Cindy is the one who used the chloroform to try and clean the "dead" smell out of the car.
Hmmmmmm - very interesting thought IMO.

Before anyone can come to that conclusion we need to know when the searches for the chloroform was done on the computer - was it before or after Cindy retreived the car from the Tow yard? Might be a good question for Nancy Grace to investigate. ??

[soccermom]

Before anyone can come to that conclusion we need to know when the searches for the chloroform was done on the computer - was it before or after Cindy retreived the car from the Tow yard? Might be a good question for Nancy Grace to investigate. ??

Hey good thought !!!


But didnt they say that on Casey laptop they found sites that she went to about Chloroform. --- did they say she order some or just looked it up?

[One2Snoop]

Hey good thought !!!


But didnt they say that on Casey laptop they found sites that she went to about Chloroform. --- did they say she order some or just looked it up?

I believe they did say Casey's laptop but did she have it with her the entire time she was gone? I've not read anything that states she actually purchased chloroform. It's possible I missed it but I think if Casey had actually purchased it NG would've been down Casey's throat by now if you know what I mean.

[One2Snoop]

:eek: Food fight in front of Anthony home this evening....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vl78evCPc0

Actually no food involved and I know emotions are high but I don't agree with people fighting each other over this. :no: :(

[One2Snoop]

I believe they did say Casey's laptop but did she have it with her the entire time she was gone? I've not read anything that states she actually purchased chloroform. It's possible I missed it but I think if Casey had actually purchased it NG would've been down Casey's throat by now if you know what I mean.

Just wanted to add -

What we need to find out is if the search for chloroform was done after July 16th. If it was then Cindy plays into this somehow, IMO.

[soccermom]

True good point
She would of ((NG))

I just hope that the search tomorrow turns something up

[Blue Mermaid]

:eek: Food fight in front of Anthony home this evening....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vl78evCPc0

Actually no food involved and I know emotions are high but I don't agree with people fighting each other over this. :no: :(

Must suck to be the Anthony's neighbors. :mad:

[One2Snoop]

Must suck to be the Anthony's neighbors. :mad:

Some of the neighbors have been interviewed and it seems the reactions are mixed, but I agree, I wouldn't want to be their neighbor at the moment.

[SaraSidle]

True good point
She would of ((NG))

I just hope that the search tomorrow turns something up

Me too Soccermom. I heard on NG they will have a lot more searchers.

ok here is another theory but not probably. Casey find Caylee deceased in the trunk after a night of partying. She calls mom and dad but they do not answer. She goes home and no one is there. She puts Caylee in the sandbox with the lid on until she can figure out what to do. Then she decided the playhouse would be better so she borrowed a shovel and buried her under the playhouse. that is why she says Caylee is close. That is why she said Caylee would be home for her birthday. Very farfetched I know. But I really want Caylee found and Casey found guilty. IMO

[One2Snoop]

Just a reminder - 20/20 is airing a special tonight on the Anthony case.

[minga]

I can't remember who the woman was (it will be played over the weekend) but she said she did google searches until she found one company willing to sell her chloroform. She had to pay for it by card. It was the only way it could be purchased.

Paper trail? Hopefully.

[lighthousedazy]

I can't remember who the woman was (it will be played over the weekend) but she said she did google searches until she found one company willing to sell her chloroform. She had to pay for it by card. It was the only way it could be purchased.

Paper trail? Hopefully.IIRC, I think she was a CNN employee. Wasn't it mentioned earlier that Casey had stolen her parent's credit card? Probably so since she hadn't worked for 2 years. jmo

[One2Snoop]

I can't remember who the woman was (it will be played over the weekend) but she said she did google searches until she found one company willing to sell her chloroform. She had to pay for it by card. It was the only way it could be purchased.

Paper trail? Hopefully.

Hey Minga :seeya: I think it was one of Nancy's research assistants or a producer of the show? Once the transcript comes up in an hour or so we can verify it.

[SaraSidle]

I can't remember who the woman was (it will be played over the weekend) but she said she did google searches until she found one company willing to sell her chloroform. She had to pay for it by card. It was the only way it could be purchased.

Paper trail? Hopefully.

I think it also explains how to make it at home with household products to Minga. Bleach and something else?

[One2Snoop]

IIRC, I think she was a CNN employee. Wasn't it mentioned earlier that Casey had stolen her parent's credit card? Probably so since she hadn't worked for 2 years. jmo

Yes, evidently she charged thousands of dollars on plane tickets for her friends, resturants, online purchases etc... I wonder if chloroform was one of those purchases?

[lighthousedazy]

I think it also explains how to make it at home with household products to Minga. Bleach and something else?On Nancy Grace, last night, a report said there was significant amounts of chloroform in the trunk, not trace amounts. Sorry, I can't link it, but a chemist on the show said that significant amounts would be pure chloroform and not a mixture of bleach, etc. I don't know why she didn't explain that to Daniel Horowitz tonight. jmo

[One2Snoop]

On Nancy Grace, last night, a report said there was significant amounts of chloroform in the trunk, not trace amounts. Sorry, I can't link it, but a chemist on the show said that significant amounts would be pure chloroform and not a mixture of bleach, etc. I don't know why she didn't explain that to Daniel Horowitz tonight. jmo

NG did tell Daniel tonight that he needed to do his homework.

[One2Snoop]

Mark Furman's opinion on the chloroform and plane ticket purchases for Casey's friends...

http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=1K7E23zszZs

[SaraSidle]

Mark Furman's opinion on the chloroform and plane ticket purchases for Casey's friends...

http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=1K7E23zszZs

Thanks Lighthousedazy. I did see that and I totally forgot. I am very tired. What if she used a different credit card?

[minga]

Did anyone catch 20/20?

[One2Snoop]

Did anyone catch 20/20?

It was mostly just a re-cap of all thats happened since Cindy's first 911 call.
Nothing new reported.

[One2Snoop]

Just my own observation of this situation after watching the 20/20 segment and reading, watching the news, I think G & C were genuinely concerned and believed Casey's story that Caylee was taken by the babysitter/nanny "in the very beginning".

I no longer believe that G&C believe Caylee was taken and they're in extreme denial as to what Casey's involvement is with Caylee's disappearance.

I also believe that Caylee died under Casey's care but Casey doesn't remember it because she was either under the influence of drugs or alcohol or a combo of both. Only Casey and God knows what she did with her child.

Casey needs to come fourth and set the record straight, not only for Caylee, but for Caylee's grandparents and everyone else who cares about this little angel of god. Only Casey can make this right with god. IMO and just my 2cents.

[rosejustrose]

This is eery, but I think she knocked the baby out with the chloroform, put her in the trunk (where she died) while she partied. The child probably stayed in the trunk until the next day or afternoon. She was seen backing the car up to the garage and borrowed a shovel from the neighbors and buried Caylee in the backyard. She got scared and dug her up, put her in a garbage bag and tossed the bag in the dumpster at the amscot store. Probably some loopholes, but this is just one theory and my opinion.

I think you may be right and I agree with this theory. IIRC, the searchers were told to look for a rolled up rug, duffle bag and bones yesterday. They must know something to be so specific in what they want the searchers to focus upon. IMO, before G&C realized Casey killed Caylee they most likely indicated in their conversations with LE that these items were missing. Or maybe some of Casey's "friends" provided statements that led LE to look for a carpet or duffle bag in the car and it wasn't there. This is not looking good at all. Actually, it's a horrible situation. Poor Caylee, RIP little one:rose:

[rosejustrose]

I just read elsewhere someone had the thought that maybe Cindy is the one who used the chloroform to try and clean the "dead" smell out of the car.
Hmmmmmm - very interesting thought IMO.

Before anyone can come to that conclusion we need to know when the searches for the chloroform was done on the computer - was it before or after Cindy retreived the car from the Tow yard? Might be a good question for Nancy Grace to investigate. ??

Good morning, O2S! IIRC, LE confiscated the car on July 16, Cindy called 911 to have Casey arrested on July 15. I don't think she'd have enough time to buy chloroform and clean the car.

IMO, Casey had too much time on her hands and came up with the chloroform idea as a means to "babysit" Caylee while she went out partying. In this case, I think it's chloroform meet Zanny the Nanny! She went a little too far with this and killed Caylee. JMO, but I think Caylee has been dead since June 16.

IMO and no offense intended.

[Cloudshill]

Hi everybody. I have been following your posts here for about a month. What a sad situation. On 20/20 last night they went over what was found in the trunk of the car. Including the hair(s), the air sample, the stain, the presence of chloroform,.....and dirt. That was the first time I have heard that dirt was found in the trunk. They didn't say how much, but LE could be able to identify the source of the dirt by it's composition. I would also think they could see if the dirt was contaminated by human decomposition. Just a thought.

[Brainstorm]

Welcome to the board.Yes, its been said there was dirt in the trunk also. That was what led me to think she initially buried Caylee, then dug up the child,from the backyard and moved her,IMOO

[applesandorange]

This is eery, but I think she knocked the baby out with the chloroform, put her in the trunk (where she died) while she partied. The child probably stayed in the trunk until the next day or afternoon. She was seen backing the car up to the garage and borrowed a shovel from the neighbors and buried Caylee in the backyard. She got scared and dug her up, put her in a garbage bag and tossed the bag in the dumpster at the amscot store. Probably some loopholes, but this is just one theory and my opinion.

Your theory is rather good. From what I have heard and read LE seems stuck on the theory that something happened at the Anthony home and the body was put in the trunk after it was buried in the backyard. I'm hoping with the evidence of cholorform they can change it to fit into what you are saying. It makes much more sense and everything fits that way. Good thinking LHD!!

[SaraSidle]

Your theory is rather good. From what I have heard and read LE seems stuck on the theory that something happened at the Anthony home and the body was put in the trunk after it was buried in the backyard. I'm hoping with the evidence of cholorform they can change it to fit into what you are saying. It makes much more sense and everything fits that way. Good thinking LHD!!

I agree with your posts rose,One2Snoop,lighthousedazy,applesandorange. I wish we had more evidence to work with. Obviously LE has a lot more since it seems to be leaking out little by little. I wonder if that is to put pressure on Casey. Make her feel like they are closing in on her. imo:shrug:

[loulou58]

Maybe she initially buried her in the back yard to try and pin it on her parents, but then changed her mind for some reason. Or maybe dad caught her and told her dispose of body??? His attitude has seemed odd all along to me!!

[Woostock]

I wonder if Padilla was referring to the chloroform when he said there was more news to come. I originally thought all this was an accident in the pool but now it seems unlikely. I wonder how things are going in the Anthony home today. From what I have read Casey and her mother had a contentious relationship most of the time. If Cindy had a brain as well as a conscience she would tell her daughter she has 15 min to tell her the truth or she will demand she find housing elsewhere. No more covering for the sociopath. If the parents were not involved in this situation in any way they should realize that their
actions are looking as if they are complicit and covering for her.

[TOEJAM]

I wonder how long a person would have to be dead for the cadaver dogs to hit on it? of course it would probably depend on the weather. this would fill in the timeline of when the body was in the back yard and in the trunk.....

[rosejustrose]

I agree with your posts rose,One2Snoop,lighthousedazy,applesandorange. I wish we had more evidence to work with. Obviously LE has a lot more since it seems to be leaking out little by little. I wonder if that is to put pressure on Casey. Make her feel like they are closing in on her. imo:shrug:

I didn't double quote this but I should have. A&O made a good point. If this "accident" initially happened at the Anthony house then it proves George is a big fat liar. IIRC, he said the last time he saw Caylee was on June 16th when she and Casey were leaving. Casey to her "job" (that's a joke) and Caylee to the sitter (that's an even bigger joke). Then he left a while later for his job. If this accident happened at their home then George was there when it happened and he's covering. IIRC, Caylee and Casey left before he did. I also recall that there was a fight between Casey and her parents on Father's Day, June 15th. The neighbors heard it. I think Casey took Caylee and left that night, late. JMHO, but there's a lot missing from the timeline of Casey and Caylee. I don't think this family will ever tell the truth because they just don't care about their dead, this is all about the living Casey. JMHO and no offense intended.

[ErrinSpelling]

This is eery, but I think she knocked the baby out with the chloroform, put her in the trunk (where she died) while she partied. The child probably stayed in the trunk until the next day or afternoon. She was seen backing the car up to the garage and borrowed a shovel from the neighbors and buried Caylee in the backyard. She got scared and dug her up, put her in a garbage bag and tossed the bag in the dumpster at the amscot store. Probably some loopholes, but this is just one theory and my opinion.

it sounds like we all think it's possible, for 2 pages.can anyone imagine standing there...i cannot even imagine burrying a stranger.i would be crying, hysterical...& then to back later & dig up...worry about being seen...only a sociopath...at trial will we hear ,she went to a party, after this.....so i think it was intentional murder,if this happened...
just because she's a sociopath, (pathological liar- dr. p saunders), doesn't make her a murderer.:rolleyes:

[rosejustrose]

I wonder how long a person would have to be dead for the cadaver dogs to hit on it? of course it would probably depend on the weather. this would fill in the timeline of when the body was in the back yard and in the trunk.....

Decomposition of a human body occurs almost immediately. Upon death, sudden or not, the human body begins to decompose. The dead body gives off certain gases, fluid and waste. In other words, a recently dead body goes through a series of stages of decomposition, usually four. In this case I believe the trunk is giving us evidence of the gaseous stage. That's why the body farm was able to distinguish the decomp in the air tests. The FBI has not released any information pertinent to the next phase, the liquid phase, which would indicate that Caylee began to seriously decompose. I know this is gruesome stuff, but it is what it is. Caylee's little body would immediately begin to give clues of her death and its stages. I think this is where the Anthonys effed up. They didn't count on little Caylee screaming for justice from the grave. JMHO.

[applesandorange]

I didn't double quote this but I should have. A&O made a good point. If this "accident" initially happened at the Anthony house then it proves George is a big fat liar. IIRC, he said the last time he saw Caylee was on June 16th when she and Casey were leaving. Casey to her "job" (that's a joke) and Caylee to the sitter (that's an even bigger joke). Then he left a while later for his job. If this accident happened at their home then George was there when it happened and he's covering. IIRC, Caylee and Casey left before he did. I also recall that there was a fight between Casey and her parents on Father's Day, June 15th. The neighbors heard it. I think Casey took Caylee and left that night, late. JMHO, but there's a lot missing from the timeline of Casey and Caylee. I don't think this family will ever tell the truth because they just don't care about their dead, this is all about the living Casey. JMHO and no offense intended.


Well see that's just it. It never made any sense to me that Casey would return to her parent's house after she left. The way they were trying to make it sound was that Casey and Caylee returned to her parent's house, something happened to Caylee, Casey buried her, Casey dug her up and put her in the trunk. That to me just doesn't make any kind of sense. It is much more logical that something happened to Caylee (most likely chloroform is what happened) Casey then returned to her parent's house and buried her. And then on and on. I wonder if George didn't return home and find Casey in the act of buring Caylee or found Casey distraught and she told him what happened and George told Casey to dig Caylee up and take her somewhere else. IMO Casey is not smart enough to hide a body well enough that it wouldn't be found by now. Now with daddy's help who used to be in LE, she would be that smart. I think daddy knew the whole time and has helped.

Did anyone catch Jose Baez saying that they were preparing for what's yet to come or something to that effect? I wonder just what he's talking about. Hmmmm..... a body perhaps?

BTW no offense taken Rose. I think you are right on with everything.

[applesandorange]

Decomposition of a human body occurs almost immediately. Upon death, sudden or not, the human body begins to decompose. The dead body gives off certain gases, fluid and waste. In other words, a recently dead body goes through a series of stages of decomposition, usually four. In this case I believe the trunk is giving us evidence of the gaseous stage. That's why the body farm was able to distinguish the decomp in the air tests. The FBI has not released any information pertinent to the next phase, the liquid phase, which would indicate that Caylee began to seriously decompose. I know this is gruesome stuff, but it is what it is. Caylee's little body would immediately begin to give clues of her death and its stages. I think this is where the Anthonys effed up. They didn't count on little Caylee screaming for justice from the grave. JMHO.


Rose do you know if it is possible that is what that stain in the trunk was? Could it have been from the liquid phase?

[ErrinSpelling]

Do you all remember Daniels wife was murdered a few years ago in their dream home in Calif. (he prob. doesnt clean) by a teen that was on drugs. He has just recently returned to tv. You think he might be more sympathic toward the victim---Caylee.

and then susan polk accused him (DH) of being the murderer.

i remember DH not knowing he if could be a defense attorney after that.i guess he is back to his NG tv ,self.

[rosejustrose]

it sounds like we all think it's possible, for 2 pages.can anyone imagine standing there...i cannot even imagine burrying a stranger.i would be crying, hysterical...& then to back later & dig up...worry about being seen...only a sociopath...at trial will we hear ,she went to a party, after this.....so i think it was intentional murder,if this happened...
just because she's a sociopath, (pathological liar- dr. p saunders), doesn't make her a murderer.:rolleyes:

Yes, Errin, IMO, it does make her a murderer. She acted with reckless abandom. She didn't give a damn about that little girl. She only cared about her own immediate gratification. That is not a parent, that is not a human being, that is a sociopath. She killed this child as clear as day. Her goals and asprirations were to satisfy her own sense of self. Caylee was in the way. Zanny the Nanny came in many forms, chloroform being one of them. She needed this child out of the way so she could have fun and still satisfy her parent's expectations that she was a good mother and spent time with her child. The scientific evidence puts that child, dead, in her trunk and parents backyard, there is chloroform in abundence, there is her total lack of concern and emotion, there is her parents over the top performance that this child is still alive, there is all this and yet, there is still no Caylee. What does that tell you? It tells me we have a problem. Caylee is dead. She is not in Texas, Puerto Rico or anywhere else. She is most likely rolled in a rug or stuffed in a duffle bag somewhere within 5 miles of the house she called home. The house within which she felt safe. The house that now provides a safety net for the b/i/t/c/h that most likely took her young, innocent life away from her. IMO, no offense. Oh, screw it. If you're offended so be it.

[rosejustrose]

Well see that's just it. It never made any sense to me that Casey would return to her parent's house after she left. The way they were trying to make it sound was that Casey and Caylee returned to her parent's house, something happened to Caylee, Casey buried her, Casey dug her up and put her in the trunk. That to me just doesn't make any kind of sense. It is much more logical that something happened to Caylee (most likely chloroform is what happened) Casey then returned to her parent's house and buried her. And then on and on. I wonder if George didn't return home and find Casey in the act of buring Caylee or found Casey distraught and she told him what happened and George told Casey to dig Caylee up and take her somewhere else. IMO Casey is not smart enough to hide a body well enough that it wouldn't be found by now. Now with daddy's help who used to be in LE, she would be that smart. I think daddy knew the whole time and has helped.

Did anyone catch Jose Baez saying that they were preparing for what's yet to come or something to that effect? I wonder just what he's talking about. Hmmmm..... a body perhaps?

BTW no offense taken Rose. I think you are right on with everything.


Thank you very much, dear. I tend to get a little passionate where children are concerned.

I like a lot of what you are saying. IMO, the Anthony's don't know how many time Casey was back at there house between June 15 and July 15. They both work, Casey knew their schedules, she could come and go as she pleased. That's one point I'd like to see explored a little more. Apparently, Casey never strayed too far from the Anthony house, her home base. She lived there, she knew her parents habits, she would know when they would do this and that so she may have had a comfort zome in visiting there frequently while they were not at home during this crucial time. I don't think we'll ever know the truth. But, I do like the way you think. :D JMHO.

[ErrinSpelling]

On Nancy Grace, last night, a report said there was significant amounts of chloroform in the trunk, not trace amounts. Sorry, I can't link it, but a chemist on the show said that significant amounts would be pure chloroform and not a mixture of bleach, etc. I don't know why she didn't explain that to Daniel Horowitz tonight. jmo

there wasn't any oxygen, at all to breathe ,in the trunk...talking about how much chloroform was there, to say not trace amounts...imo, that was last night....the night before NG said same- not trace amounts, yet other stories ,in odette's links keep saying trace.

[applesandorange]

I think everyone is going into this giving Casey the benefit of the doudt saying she used the chloroform to make Caylee sleep so she could party and accidentally used too much and she died. What if that's notthe case at all? What if C and G were pressuring Casey to get a place of her own and be responsible so Casey in turn said screw you I never wanted this kid anyway. You guys are the one's who made me keep her. You know what? I'm gonna get rid of her cause you are the only one's who wanted her and now you are trying to force me into having her alone. Well not happening. And then what if she intenitonally killed Caylee as a screw you to her parents? I mean she was setting up a life with her boyfriend. She was all but moved in with him. She was creating a new life. In that new life she didn't want Caylee and never did. No offense intended. I mean Casey is a sociopath who only thinks of herself. She most likely murdered her child and never gave it a second thought.

[applesandorange]

Thank you very much, dear. I tend to get a little passionate where children are concerned.

I like a lot of what you are saying. IMO, the Anthony's don't know how many time Casey was back at there house between June 15 and July 15. They both work, Casey knew their schedules, she could come and go as she pleased. That's one point I'd like to see explored a little more. Apparently, Casey never strayed too far from the Anthony house, her home base. She lived there, she knew her parents habits, she would know when they would do this and that so she may have had a comfort zome in visiting there frequently while they were not at home during this crucial time. I don't think we'll ever know the truth. But, I do like the way you think. :D JMHO.


Thanks Rose :D I like the way you think too. :beer:

[rosejustrose]

Rose do you know if it is possible that is what that stain in the trunk was? Could it have been from the liquid phase?


I have no idea what the stain could be. It is very possible that Caylee was tossed in the trunk and left long enough for the second stage of decomp to begin, the liguid stage. It's very possible that bodily fluids stained the carpet in the trunk, it wouldn't surprise me with the heat in Florida. One factor that contributes to the rapid decay of a body is air. Hot and humid air would act as an accelerant. If Casey used chloroform, it's quite possible that Caylee gaged and vomitted or dispelled her bowels and bladder. Not quite the dirty diapers Cindy claimed, more damning, IMO. There is a world of difference between tossing a dirty diaper in a trunk and the liquid remains of a small body. I really feel uncomfortable talking about this stuff even though it is a fact of the dying process. JMHO.

[ErrinSpelling]

Yes, Errin, IMO, it does make her a murderer. She acted with reckless abandom. She didn't give a damn about that little girl. She only cared about her own immediate gratification. That is not a parent, that is not a human being, that is a sociopath. She killed this child as clear as day. Her goals and asprirations were to satisfy her own sense of self. Caylee was in the way. Zanny the Nanny came in many forms, chloroform being one of them. She needed this child out of the way so she could have fun and still satisfy her parent's expectations that she was a good mother and spent time with her child. The scientific evidence puts that child, dead, in her trunk and parents backyard, there is chloroform in abundence, there is her total lack of concern and emotion, there is her parents over the top performance that this child is still alive, there is all this and yet, there is still no Caylee. What does that tell you? It tells me we have a problem. Caylee is dead. She is not in Texas, Puerto Rico or anywhere else. She is most likely rolled in a rug or stuffed in a duffle bag somewhere within 5 miles of the house she called home. The house within which she felt safe. The house that now provides a safety net for the b/i/t/c/h that most likely took her young, innocent life away from her. IMO, no offense. Oh, screw it. If you're offended so be it.

only sociopaths should be offended,serial killers resting...:shrug:

exactly, but WHEN there's a trial,please, even if they say it was an accident,the prosecutor can easily prove, a reasonable person would not use chloroform & there's no care taken & all that other stuff & hot air/florida & how anyone could have kidnapped child all alone,worse...........& everyone hates them, so it will be murder,imo.

[rosejustrose]

there wasn't any oxygen, at all to breathe ,in the trunk...talking about how much chloroform was there, to say not trace amounts...imo, that was last night....the night before NG said same- not trace amounts, yet other stories ,in odette's links keep saying trace.

The chemical composition of chloroform causes it to absorb oxygen. It literally sucks it from whatever space/area in which it exists. I think the point they were trying to make is this. Casey threw a rag soaked in chloroform into a confined space that afforded limited air to begin with. Once that rag was in the trunk, it sucked the oxygen molecules out of the space making it impossible for anything requiring oxygen to survive, to live. Think of the chloform rag as a living breathing creature. It was just stronger to get the oxygen out of the trunk, not Caylee. IMO, Caylee was dead before the b/i/t/c/h put her in the trunk. JMO.

[Woostock]

Rose just Rose
Do you think Casey was able to think this through to the point from murdering Caylee to disposing of her as well. I wonder if she had coaching; she just stikes me as not very smart yet her actions and the sequence of this case gave LE much harder case to solve. She got a month ahead of LE. At first I thought Caylee drowned in the pool but that is looking unlikely. As to whether Casey was capable of killing her child I believe she was if she has been diagnosed sociopathic. One aspect of that is ragefulness and lack of empathy for others among other things. I had hoped Caylee would be found by now and am getting anxious that she may not be found.

[ErrinSpelling]

The chemical composition of chloroform causes it to absorb oxygen. It literally sucks it from whatever space/area in which it exists. I think the point they were trying to make is this. Casey threw a rag soaked in chloroform into a confined space that afforded limited air to begin with. Once that rag was in the trunk, it sucked the oxygen molecules out of the space making it impossible for anything requiring oxygen to survive, to live. Think of the chloform rag as a living breathing creature. It was just stronger to get the oxygen out of the trunk, not Caylee. IMO, Caylee was dead before the b/i/t/c/h put her in the trunk. JMO.

thank-you rose.,,i was only thinking they were saying it wasn't a trace amount,like if you think she used a little, you're wrong,it was murder.

[rosejustrose]

only sociopaths should be offended,serial killers resting...:shrug:

exactly, but WHEN there's a trial,please, even if they say it was an accident,the prosecutor can easily prove, a reasonable person would not use chloroform & there's no care taken & all that other stuff & hot air/florida & how anyone could have kidnapped child all alone,worse...........& everyone hates them, so it will be murder,imo.

ITA. I actually admire the State of Florida and it's justice system. It's one of the toughest in the country. If this case does come to trial, the first thing Baez is going to do is ask for a change in venue. Too many people have formed opinions and there is not the likelihood of a fair jury. News for Baez, there's not likely an unopinioniated jury in this country. I don't think the prosecutor will have a hard time proving murder based on the circumstantial evidence they have. In more cases than not, circumstancial evidence is what carries the weight, not eyewitness or forensic evidence. The cold hard facts often need to be tempered with the warm and fuzzy circumstantial to form the whole picture. I don't think Casey will get the death penalty but I do think they may be able to get 25 for invol and life with no parole if they play up the chloroform angle. JMHO and I have no idea of Florida law.

[ErrinSpelling]

ITA. I actually admire the State of Florida and it's justice system. It's one of the toughest in the country. If this case does come to trial, the first thing Baez is going to do is ask for a change in venue. Too many people have formed opinions and there is not the likelihood of a fair jury. News for Baez, there's not likely an unopinioniated jury in this country. I don't think the prosecutor will have a hard time proving murder based on the circumstantial evidence they have. In more cases than not, circumstancial evidence is what carries the weight, not eyewitness or forensic evidence. The cold hard facts often need to be tempered with the warm and fuzzy circumstantial to form the whole picture. I don't think Casey will get the death penalty but I do think they may be able to get 25 for invol and life with no parole if they play up the chloroform angle. JMHO and I have no idea of Florida law.

i haven't let myself think as far ahead yet.i am hoping,with all the bad we know now, this early ,that there will be a lot more told .i do hope she at least gets life,though, now that you made me think about it.

[rosejustrose]

Rose just Rose
Do you think Casey was able to think this through to the point from murdering Caylee to disposing of her as well. I wonder if she had coaching; she just stikes me as not very smart yet her actions and the sequence of this case gave LE much harder case to solve. She got a month ahead of LE. At first I thought Caylee drowned in the pool but that is looking unlikely. As to whether Casey was capable of killing her child I believe she was if she has been diagnosed sociopathic. One aspect of that is ragefulness and lack of empathy for others among other things. I had hoped Caylee would be found by now and am getting anxious that she may not be found.

That bolded statement really got me to thinking. I don't think she had coaching in the pure sense of the word. But I did go back and look at the recently released video which showed a very young Caylee with her mom. Very young and long ago. Nothing recent. Hmmm. Your post made me think. Rage and anger are funny emotions. Some run real hot and real fast and then they are done. Others smolder and grow in strength. I believe that Casey Anthony had the latter. I believe she at first adored being a mom and having Caylee because the attention was on her instead of the baby. But hey, guess what, kids grow up. As Caylee started to grown and develop her own personality I think it conflicted with Casey's in that they were probably very much the same in needing attention. However, I think the baby got more attention than Casey liked. If I had to guess, I'd say the last seven or eight months in the Anthony house were hell. Casey vs. Caylee vs. Cindy vs. George vs. Lee. Caylee was at that age where she was becoming a real person. That was totally unacceptable to Casey because she thrived on all that attention. She started to plan to get rid of Caylee at least 7-8 months ago. JMHO and from my own observations.

[ErrinSpelling]

i forgot, rose...
i find it hard to believe these people will keep a seemingly nice, defense attorney like baez...he is too nice for these kind of people.they may find a way to get rid of him.

[ErrinSpelling]

That bolded statement really got me to thinking. I don't think she had coaching in the pure sense of the word. But I did go back and look at the recently released video which showed a very young Caylee with her mom. Very young and long ago. Nothing recent. Hmmm. Your post made me think. Rage and anger are funny emotions. Some run real hot and real fast and then they are done. Others smolder and grow in strength. I believe that Casey Anthony had the latter. I believe she at first adored being a mom and having Caylee because the attention was on her instead of the baby. But hey, guess what, kids grow up. As Caylee started to grown and develop her own personality I think it conflicted with Casey's in that they were probably very much the same in needing attention. However, I think the baby got more attention than Casey liked. If I had to guess, I'd say the last seven or eight months in the Anthony house were hell. Casey vs. Caylee vs. Cindy vs. George vs. Lee. Caylee was at that age where she was becoming a real person. That was totally unacceptable to Casey because she thrived on all that attention. She started to plan to get rid of Caylee at least 7-8 months ago. JMHO and from my own observations.


she sounds like scott peterson.

i wonder if the tv can be considered coaching....the in session people ,imo, have been writing about the crime shows she watched.

[rosejustrose]

i forgot, rose...
i find it hard to believe these people will keep a seemingly nice, defense attorney like baez...he is too nice for these kind of people.they may find a way to get rid of him.

There is no such thing as a "nice" defense attorney. Nice is not the adjective I would use to describe any attorney who is actively involved in any case on either side of the aisle. LOL. JMO.

[applesandorange]

That bolded statement really got me to thinking. I don't think she had coaching in the pure sense of the word. But I did go back and look at the recently released video which showed a very young Caylee with her mom. Very young and long ago. Nothing recent. Hmmm. Your post made me think. Rage and anger are funny emotions. Some run real hot and real fast and then they are done. Others smolder and grow in strength. I believe that Casey Anthony had the latter. I believe she at first adored being a mom and having Caylee because the attention was on her instead of the baby. But hey, guess what, kids grow up. As Caylee started to grown and develop her own personality I think it conflicted with Casey's in that they were probably very much the same in needing attention. However, I think the baby got more attention than Casey liked. If I had to guess, I'd say the last seven or eight months in the Anthony house were hell. Casey vs. Caylee vs. Cindy vs. George vs. Lee. Caylee was at that age where she was becoming a real person. That was totally unacceptable to Casey because she thrived on all that attention. She started to plan to get rid of Caylee at least 7-8 months ago. JMHO and from my own observations.


That goes along the lines of what I was thinking. I was thinking yes they looked happy in their pics and home videos BUT Casey was also getting something out of it at the time. She was given a place to live, a car to drive and attention. Of course she was happy. Once her parent's were to say she didn't have those things anymore and she needed to grow up that happiness would change. Instead of Caylee being the reason for happiness she would become a burdon.

[ErrinSpelling]

There is no such thing as a "nice" defense attorney. Nice is not the adjective I would use to describe any attorney who is actively involved in any case on either side of the aisle. LOL. JMO.

:D i know.i was being nice.he is the only defense attorney i have ever seen, that i don't dislike,yet.

[Woostock]

I don't think there's any doubt that Cindy loved and nurtured Caylee. Perhaps, and this could be way off base, but Cindy is not stupid and at some level she had to realize what a screwup Casey was and perhaps in some way feeling she didn't do a very good job raising Casey. Now she had another chance--a chance to love and nurture Caylee. Then the counselor makes the recomm. that Casey and Caylee find their own place; perhaps due to the contentious relationship between Cindy and Casey. Casey never wanted to have the baby in the first place and to top it off she sees Caylee as an obstacle to a " I want to do whatever I want whenever I want" lifestyle.( Especially at that age 2 going on 3. )Now Cindy has all that baggage to deal with, recriminations for letting Caylee out of her sight; guilt knowing Casey was not going to do the best for Caylee, etc etc. and all this got to her. She is totally whacked now. I also would not be surprised if we find out Casey did illegal drugs as well and that would also play into the guilt Cindy would feel.

[ErrinSpelling]

That goes along the lines of what I was thinking. I was thinking yes they looked happy in their pics and home videos BUT Casey was also getting something out of it at the time. She was given a place to live, a car to drive and attention. Of course she was happy. Once her parent's were to say she didn't have those things anymore and she needed to grow up that happiness would change. Instead of Caylee being the reason for happiness she would become a burdon.

you both make a lot of sense.that would explain to me,why she waited so long, almost 3 years , to murder,if indeed she did murder casey.

[ErrinSpelling]

I don't think there's any doubt that Cindy loved and nurtured Caylee. Perhaps, and this could be way off base, but Cindy is not stupid and at some level she had to realize what a screwup Casey was and perhaps in some way feeling she didn't do a very good job raising Casey. Now she had another chance--a chance to love and nurture Caylee. Then the counselor makes the recomm. that Casey and Caylee find their own place; perhaps due to the contentious relationship between Cindy and Casey. Casey never wanted to have the baby in the first place and to top it off she sees Caylee as an obstacle to a " I want to do whatever I want whenever I want" lifestyle.( Especially at that age 2 going on 3. )Now Cindy has all that baggage to deal with, recriminations for letting Caylee out of her sight; guilt knowing Casey was not going to do the best for Caylee, etc etc. and all this got to her. She is totally whacked now. I also would not be surprised if we find out Casey did illegal drugs as well and that would also play into the guilt Cindy would feel.
you made me like cindy a tiny,little bit. i was totally angry for teaching her to become a pathological liar- dr. patricia saunders,on NG...

[applesandorange]

I don't think there's any doubt that Cindy loved and nurtured Caylee. Perhaps, and this could be way off base, but Cindy is not stupid and at some level she had to realize what a screwup Casey was and perhaps in some way feeling she didn't do a very good job raising Casey. Now she had another chance--a chance to love and nurture Caylee. Then the counselor makes the recomm. that Casey and Caylee find their own place; perhaps due to the contentious relationship between Cindy and Casey. Casey never wanted to have the baby in the first place and to top it off she sees Caylee as an obstacle to a " I want to do whatever I want whenever I want" lifestyle.( Especially at that age 2 going on 3. )Now Cindy has all that baggage to deal with, recriminations for letting Caylee out of her sight; guilt knowing Casey was not going to do the best for Caylee, etc etc. and all this got to her. She is totally whacked now. I also would not be surprised if we find out Casey did illegal drugs as well and that would also play into the guilt Cindy would feel.


I agree with you. None of us are perfect parents. Some parents don't realize how much their own actions and personalities influence their child. Cindy probably did realize this too late. She looked at Caylee as a little Casey. A chance to right her wrongs. Cindy is still not a stupid person. I noticed in the one interview she made the comment " as long as their is a chance that Caylee is alive I won't stop looking." She also said " the public should do the same for Caylee." To me when she was making those statements she was saying I know all this evidence is mounting. I know nothing makes sense but as long as they don't have a body there is a chance. I think she is holding onto that chance because it is far to painful for her to admit to the evidence at this point. I don't however agree with her supporting Casey. Then again Casey is all she has left of Caylee. Who knows why she's acting like this. I just wish they would find Caylee and give everyone closure.

[ErrinSpelling]

unfortunately i don't understand computers , but i'm sure one of out link princesses will post an article, that may say deputies removed a weapon from the trunk, of GA's car.

[ErrinSpelling]

I agree with you. None of us are perfect parents. Some parents don't realize how much their own actions and personalities influence their child. Cindy probably did realize this too late. She looked at Caylee as a little Casey. A chance to right her wrongs. Cindy is still not a stupid person. I noticed in the one interview she made the comment " as long as their is a chance that Caylee is alive I won't stop looking." She also said " the public should do the same for Caylee." To me when she was making those statements she was saying I know all this evidence is mounting. I know nothing makes sense but as long as they don't have a body there is a chance. I think she is holding onto that chance because it is far to painful for her to admit to the evidence at this point. I don't however agree with her supporting Casey. Then again Casey is all she has left of Caylee. Who knows why she's acting like this. I just wish they would find Caylee and give everyone closure.

that is a better way to look at it, than i was doing. i thought cindy was just saying those things, b/c her new attorney was giving her a make-over.

[Woostock]

I totally agree that she should not be coddling Casey. She would really do well to tell Casey in no uncertain terms that she has to divulge the whereabouts of her daughter. If she refused, then Cindy tells her " out of here,girl" back to the lock up. that's what I would be doing. If she did that, the court of public opinion would be swayed and in the long run I think Cindy would feel better. She is in no man's land now from the way I look at it!!! Just out there making a fool of herself......She needs to put the focus on finding out what really happened to Caylee no matter how she has to do it.

[SaraSidle]

that is a better way to look at it, than i was doing. i thought cindy was just saying those things, b/c her new attorney was giving her a make-over.

Too bad they do not have parenting college that you have to pass to be a parent.

I also wonder if Casey got ideas from her ex-fiance who was an ex-cop, her ex-boyfriend who just quit being a cop and her dad who is a retired cop. hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

[applesandorange]

that is a better way to look at it, than i was doing. i thought cindy was just saying those things, b/c her new attorney was giving her a make-over.


You could be right Errin. Her attorney could be saying hey Casey has maintained this story now everyone has got to keep it. That could be what is happening. I have no idea. I think it is just so hard for me to believe that this entire family would have no feeling for poor Caylee. It is easier to believe that Cindy is just holding on to that little piece of hope until it is extinguished. I know if I was in this situation I would want to hold on to any hope there was until the very end. I don't think I would ever want to believe the truth. It to me would be much too painful. I would also be beating the crap out of Casey and demanding the truth though. Until Casey would come clean and say Caylee is dead or until they would find her body I would probably hold on to hope.

[applesandorange]

Too bad they do not have parenting college that you have to pass to be a parent.

I also wonder if Casey got ideas from her ex-fiance who was an ex-cop, her ex-boyfriend who just quit being a cop and her dad who is a retired cop. hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm


WoW! I had no idea she had so many LE influences in her life. This puts a new spin on things.

[applesandorange]

I totally agree that she should not be coddling Casey. She would really do well to tell Casey in no uncertain terms that she has to divulge the whereabouts of her daughter. If she refused, then Cindy tells her " out of here,girl" back to the lock up. that's what I would be doing. If she did that, the court of public opinion would be swayed and in the long run I think Cindy would feel better. She is in no man's land now from the way I look at it!!! Just out there making a fool of herself......She needs to put the focus on finding out what really happened to Caylee no matter how she has to do it.


I agree Woostock. Cindy should be putting Casey up against the wall. If she did this Casey might well decide she's rather be locked up than interrogated all the time. JMO

[One2Snoop]

:cool: Well this is certainly interesting - from David Lohr's latest update...

"I am out of the loop right now as far as what other outlets are covering; however sources here tell me that detectives removed potential evidence from George Anthony's vehicle early this morning. The evidence was allegedly removed from the wheel well, although some sources are saying the spare tire area. I'll try to provide more information on that later."

http://blogs.discovery.com/criminal_report/2008/09/caylee-anthon-3.html

[Brainstorm]

:cool: Well this is certainly interesting - from David Lohr's latest update...

"I am out of the loop right now as far as what other outlets are covering; however sources here tell me that detectives removed potential evidence from George Anthony's vehicle early this morning. The evidence was allegedly removed from the wheel well, although some sources are saying the spare tire area. I'll try to provide more information on that later."

http://blogs.discovery.com/criminal_report/2008/09/caylee-anthon-3.html

OMG, this just keeps getting deeper,doesn't it? OMG.

[One2Snoop]

OMG, this just keeps getting deeper,doesn't it? OMG.

Yup. And here's another article about it from the orlando sentinel to verify it... (thanks odette for the updates! :rose: )



TODAY'S UPDATES

Investigators remove evidence from George Anthony's car

2:45 a.m. Investigators traveled to the Anthony home and removed evidence from a vehicle owned by Anthony's father, George Anthony. Deputies were seen removing the contents of the spare-wheel well and taking at least one item as evidence.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/orl-casey-anthony-090608,0,4836790.story

[SaraSidle]

I agree Woostock. Cindy should be putting Casey up against the wall. If she did this Casey might well decide she's rather be locked up than interrogated all the time. JMO

But then Cindy would have to face the truth

[One2Snoop]

Another update - it was a gun they removed from George Anthony's vehicle!

Having a gun on the property is a violation of Casey Anthony's bail. Casey was released for the second time from the Orange County Jail Friday.

[applesandorange]

But then Cindy would have to face the truth


So true Sara.

[applesandorange]

Another update - it was a gun they removed from George Anthony's vehicle!

Having a gun on the property is a violation of Casey Anthony's bail. Casey was released for the second time from the Orange County Jail Friday.

I wonder who called this tip in. Very interesting.

[tv]

I wonder who called this tip in. Very interesting.Very interesting, indeed. It would have to be someone close to the family.

[Brainstorm]

Another update - it was a gun they removed from George Anthony's vehicle!

Having a gun on the property is a violation of Casey Anthony's bail. Casey was released for the second time from the Orange County Jail Friday.

THOSE PEOPLE REALLY BELIEVE THEY ARE ABOVE THE LAW !!! Don't they?
Somehow, I hope some charges will be brought against the GPs too,now.
OT,and my pc doesn't download links,for hrs, so Im watching the news and reading here,but where is the mention of Caseys new tattoo,some foreign language translated to mean The beautiful life,IIRC, AFTER Caylee was missing.????I heard it one night on tv,iirc.

[ErrinSpelling]

Too bad they do not have parenting college that you have to pass to be a parent.

I also wonder if Casey got ideas from her ex-fiance who was an ex-cop, her ex-boyfriend who just quit being a cop and her dad who is a retired cop. hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

i'll never catch up .if everyone had to have the supernanny or the 911 nannies,i don't think there would be any sociopaths...i don't know how, but they always seem to make the most evil children sweet.

the boyfriend who quit, b/c they forced him to quit, for lying?that family needed more liars...i don't know.they both were probably too busy telling each other lies....just kidding...you are probably right.

[ErrinSpelling]

You could be right Errin. Her attorney could be saying hey Casey has maintained this story now everyone has got to keep it. That could be what is happening. I have no idea. I think it is just so hard for me to believe that this entire family would have no feeling for poor Caylee. It is easier to believe that Cindy is just holding on to that little piece of hope until it is extinguished. I know if I was in this situation I would want to hold on to any hope there was until the very end. I don't think I would ever want to believe the truth. It to me would be much too painful. I would also be beating the crap out of Casey and demanding the truth though. Until Casey would come clean and say Caylee is dead or until they would find her body I would probably hold on to hope.

i would think normal people would want to hold on to hope.i did not care for their new attorney, from the first day, b/c i got the feeling he is the person, who was behind the anonymous bail statement about casey's rights being greatly violated,or whatever the stupid comment was & the abc nice family
act.

[ErrinSpelling]

Another update - it was a gun they removed from George Anthony's vehicle!

Having a gun on the property is a violation of Casey Anthony's bail. Casey was released for the second time from the Orange County Jail Friday.

thank-you for all the links!

[wildyarrow]

I think everyone is going into this giving Casey the benefit of the doudt saying she used the chloroform to make Caylee sleep so she could party and accidentally used too much and she died. What if that's notthe case at all? What if C and G were pressuring Casey to get a place of her own and be responsible so Casey in turn said screw you I never wanted this kid anyway. You guys are the one's who made me keep her. You know what? I'm gonna get rid of her cause you are the only one's who wanted her and now you are trying to force me into having her alone. Well not happening. And then what if she intenitonally killed Caylee as a screw you to her parents? I mean she was setting up a life with her boyfriend. She was all but moved in with him. She was creating a new life. In that new life she didn't want Caylee and never did. No offense intended. I mean Casey is a sociopath who only thinks of herself. She most likely murdered her child and never gave it a second thought.

Another thing that supports your theory is the fact that Casey never actually "came home", Cindy had to go looking for her and it was one of Casey's friends that took her to where Casey was at.

IMO she killed the poor baby once she was expected to actually take care of and start providing for her.

Another thing is that Casey has been telling her friends that she's going to get her parents house after they "move away". Cindy says she knows nothing about such a deal.

My own gut feeling is that Cindy and George were gonna be next to "disappear" with Zanny the Nanny. She wanted that house.


All In my opinion only of course....

[Woostock]

I think it is normal to hold out hope. the possible death of a beloved grandchild is a lot to bear. It would probably send me to the loony bin. I have a very hard time with death; even when one of my beloved golden retrievers crosses the bridge I am upset for a very long time so a child.....yikes. However, Cindy needs to do whatever she needs to do to find the truth. Her situation now is no piece of cake,the whole family is looking like they are covering up the death of a young child---when they should be advocates not hinderers....Yes, it is painful no doubt about it.

[wildyarrow]

i would think normal people would want to hold on to hope.i did not care for their new attorney, from the first day, b/c i got the feeling he is the person, who was behind the anonymous bail statement about casey's rights being greatly violated,or whatever the stupid comment was & the abc nice family
act.

Yeah,I've been wondering exactly how her "rights" have been violated,has it been released anywhere yet?

Seems to me the only person who's rights were violated was Caylee,the poor baby was deprived of her right to live. :(

[applesandorange]

I think it is normal to hold out hope. the possible death of a beloved grandchild is a lot to bear. It would probably send me to the loony bin. I have a very hard time with death; even when one of my beloved golden retrievers crosses the bridge I am upset for a very long time so a child.....yikes. However, Cindy needs to do whatever she needs to do to find the truth. Her situation now is no piece of cake,the whole family is looking like they are covering up the death of a young child---when they should be advocates not hinderers....Yes, it is painful no doubt about it.


Yes you are right. The gps should not be enabling Casey. That in now way is right.

[applesandorange]

Yeah,I've been wondering exactly how her "rights" have been violated,has it been released anywhere yet?

Seems to me the only person who's rights were violated was Caylee,the poor baby was deprived of her right to live. :(


ITA! Caylee has been the only one violated in this case.

[ErrinSpelling]

Another thing that supports your theory is the fact that Casey never actually "came home", Cindy had to go looking for her and it was one of Casey's friends that took her to where Casey was at.

IMO she killed the poor baby once she was expected to actually take care of and start providing for her.

Another thing is that Casey has been telling her friends that she's going to get her parents house after they "move away". Cindy says she knows nothing about such a deal.

My own gut feeling is that Cindy and George were gonna be next to "disappear" with Zanny the Nanny. She wanted that house.


All In my opinion only of course....

cindy didn't know, she might be moving away to heaven.

[applesandorange]

THOSE PEOPLE REALLY BELIEVE THEY ARE ABOVE THE LAW !!! Don't they?
Somehow, I hope some charges will be brought against the GPs too,now.
OT,and my pc doesn't download links,for hrs, so Im watching the news and reading here,but where is the mention of Caseys new tattoo,some foreign language translated to mean The beautiful life,IIRC, AFTER Caylee was missing.????I heard it one night on tv,iirc.


Yes I heard she got a tattoo that is in Spanish I believe that means The beautiful life. And yes she did get it after Caylee went missing. At first I thought the tattoo was meaning Casey's beautiful life of partying. Now people are saying it could be a memorial to Caylee. It very well could be.

[applesandorange]

Another thing that supports your theory is the fact that Casey never actually "came home", Cindy had to go looking for her and it was one of Casey's friends that took her to where Casey was at.

IMO she killed the poor baby once she was expected to actually take care of and start providing for her.

Another thing is that Casey has been telling her friends that she's going to get her parents house after they "move away". Cindy says she knows nothing about such a deal.

My own gut feeling is that Cindy and George were gonna be next to "disappear" with Zanny the Nanny. She wanted that house.


All In my opinion only of course....

I wondered about that too. The possibility that Casey would kill Cindy and George and then make up a lie that they took Caylee and moved away. Maybe she would tell her friends that because of working so much she gave custody to her parents and they moved away. Casey must think quite highly of herself to think she could get away with one murder let alone 3.

[ErrinSpelling]

I think it is normal to hold out hope. the possible death of a beloved grandchild is a lot to bear. It would probably send me to the loony bin. I have a very hard time with death; even when one of my beloved golden retrievers crosses the bridge I am upset for a very long time so a child.....yikes. However, Cindy needs to do whatever she needs to do to find the truth. Her situation now is no piece of cake,the whole family is looking like they are covering up the death of a young child---when they should be advocates not hinderers....Yes, it is painful no doubt about it.

me too,i have a hard time ,with death forever...
even lee.i think i saw posts where people were saying lee was different than the other 3, but then ,on NG , padilla sounded like lee was calling him, every day, to get casey released again.

[Woostock]

No kidding, Casey's rights have been violated? Wow, I didn't realize that.
I thought maybe it was Caylee's rights and her right to live, and her right to have a loving, nurturing mother---I thought maybe those rights were violated

[ErrinSpelling]

Yeah,I've been wondering exactly how her "rights" have been violated,has it been released anywhere yet?

Seems to me the only person who's rights were violated was Caylee,the poor baby was deprived of her right to live. :(

that's a good question.they keep reading that statement on tv, but no one ever says how.i guess the granparent's attorney is working hard, trying to come up, with a how.

i agree with you all about caylee being the only one........

[ErrinSpelling]

No kidding, Casey's rights have been violated? Wow, I didn't realize that.
I thought maybe it was Caylee's rights and her right to live, and her right to have a loving, nurturing mother---I thought maybe those rights were violated

you all should be guests on NG monday & say this & see what najame has to say now.i would rather hear cindy's answer.

[applesandorange]

I've been thinking and I have concluded that there are only 3 reasons to have a gun. The first being to hunt. The second for protection and the third to kill yourself. Now George being in LE in the past would know that he is not allowed to have a gun in the home, garage, vehicle etc when Casey is out on bail. He could argue that he wanted it because of how crazy the situation has gotten and he was afraid of somebody breaking into the house. It's still not allowed but he could argue that. It could also be a totally different reason. I have heard of ex LE people saying that they would rather die than to get put in prison. Convicts in prison hate 3 different things. They hate child abusers, they hate rapists, and they hate ex LE. I have also heard of LE people who do commit a crime and who do actually kill themselves instead of going to prison. Really makes you wonder WHY George had that gun.

[ErrinSpelling]

I've been thinking and I have concluded that there are only 3 reasons to have a gun. The first being to hunt. The second for protection and the third to kill yourself. Now George being in LE in the past would know that he is not allowed to have a gun in the home, garage, vehicle etc when Casey is out on bail. He could argue that he wanted it because of how crazy the situation has gotten and he was afraid of somebody breaking into the house. It's still not allowed but he could argue that. It could also be a totally different reason. I have heard of ex LE people saying that they would rather die than to get put in prison. Convicts in prison hate 3 different things. They hate child abusers, they hate rapists, and they hate ex LE. I have also heard of LE people who do commit a crime and who do actually kill themselves instead of going to prison. Really makes you wonder WHY George had that gun.

i was hoping they would take her back to jail, but no...
he shouldn't have the gun,in the car,if he's afraid of people breaking into the house.

4. not likely, but maybe he could threaten casey, to tell him, where caylee is.

i like the hours LE keep's...2:45 am search.

[One2Snoop]

I wonder whats up at the Anthony home with all the vehicles in the driveway?

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam.html

[ErrinSpelling]

I wonder whats up at the Anthony home with all the vehicles in the driveway?

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam.html

i don't know, a vacation?there is something going on with these people every hour.

[ErrinSpelling]

now that looked like an unmarked police car.unfortunately, something i learned from a sociopath.

[ErrinSpelling]

I wonder whats up at the Anthony home with all the vehicles in the driveway?

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam.html

i lost your picture,then it came back on & someone in a military uniform is there?

[soccermom]

Thanks for the updates everyone

Makes you wonder whats going on at there place----oh some more people show up with signs.

Any news if they found anything during the search today?

[ErrinSpelling]

Thanks for the updates everyone

Makes you wonder whats going on at there place----oh some more people show up with signs.

Any news if they found anything during the search today?

ah, another protest.

i haven't heard anything.

[One2Snoop]

Thanks for the updates everyone

Makes you wonder whats going on at there place----oh some more people show up with signs.

Any news if they found anything during the search today?

Here's an update from David and for those of you who don't know who he is, he used to write for Crime Library up until changes took place here
Jan 1. He now writes for Investigation Discovery which is part of Discovery Channel.

Caylee Anthony : Ground Zero : Day 2 Update
September 6, 2008

I have a few minutes to spare, so I want to give you a quick update on what has been happening at the Texas EquuSearch command post.

I am happy to report that the volunteer effort has exploded today! I do not have an official count yet but I have personally seen hundreds (possibly a thousand or more) of people come out to join in the search. People from all over the country are here. Some volunteers have brought boats and ATV's, while others have showed up with backpacks and walking sticks.
snip

http://blogs.discovery.com/criminal_report/2008/09/caylee-anthon-4.html

[soccermom]

Here's an update from David and for those of you who don't know who he is, he used to write for Crime Library up until changes took place here
Jan 1. He now writes for Investigation Discovery which is part of Discovery Channel.

Caylee Anthony : Ground Zero : Day 2 Update
September 6, 2008

I have a few minutes to spare, so I want to give you a quick update on what has been happening at the Texas EquuSearch command post.

I am happy to report that the volunteer effort has exploded today! I do not have an official count yet but I have personally seen hundreds (possibly a thousand or more) of people come out to join in the search. People from all over the country are here. Some volunteers have brought boats and ATV's, while others have showed up with backpacks and walking sticks.
snip

http://blogs.discovery.com/criminal_report/2008/09/caylee-anthon-4.html


Thanks One2snoop you are the bomb!!!!!!!!

;)

[ErrinSpelling]

Here's an update from David and for those of you who don't know who he is, he used to write for Crime Library up until changes took place here
Jan 1. He now writes for Investigation Discovery which is part of Discovery Channel.

Caylee Anthony : Ground Zero : Day 2 Update
September 6, 2008

I have a few minutes to spare, so I want to give you a quick update on what has been happening at the Texas EquuSearch command post.

I am happy to report that the volunteer effort has exploded today! I do not have an official count yet but I have personally seen hundreds (possibly a thousand or more) of people come out to join in the search. People from all over the country are here. Some volunteers have brought boats and ATV's, while others have showed up with backpacks and walking sticks.
snip

http://blogs.discovery.com/criminal_report/2008/09/caylee-anthon-4.html

thank-you, for explaining!

i'm sorry soccermon. i read this & totally forgot.:confused:

[One2Snoop]

Well this is just unreal WTH? :cuss: From David's update...

"One of the K9 handlers said that they would have an easier time during the search if Casey Anthony or her family would provide them with an item that would have Caylee Anthony's scent on it. According to the handler, an item was requested from the family but they allegedly refused to provide it."

[soccermom]

thank-you, for explaining!

i'm sorry soccermon. i read this & totally forgot.:confused:

No worries Errin :)

[soccermom]

Well this is just unreal WTH? :cuss: From David's update...

"One of the K9 handlers said that they would have an easier time during the search if Casey Anthony or her family would provide them with an item that would have Caylee Anthony's scent on it. According to the handler, an item was requested from the family but they allegedly refused to provide it."

Oh this just burns me-------grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr:cus s::cuss::cuss:

[lorettalockhorn]

Well this is just unreal WTH? :cuss: From David's update...

"One of the K9 handlers said that they would have an easier time during the search if Casey Anthony or her family would provide them with an item that would have Caylee Anthony's scent on it. According to the handler, an item was requested from the family but they allegedly refused to provide it."

Unbelievable that the Anthonys would not cooperate in every way with the searches. Ironic that we teach our children to fear strangers, yet it seems like at this point, strangers are the only one's who seem to give a damn about Caylee.

[ErrinSpelling]

Well this is just unreal WTH? :cuss: From David's update...

"One of the K9 handlers said that they would have an easier time during the search if Casey Anthony or her family would provide them with an item that would have Caylee Anthony's scent on it. According to the handler, an item was requested from the family but they allegedly refused to provide it."

unbelieveable

[One2Snoop]

Thanks One2snoop you are the bomb!!!!!!!!

;)

:eek: Did someone mention the word bomb?

http://www.mysmiley.net/imgs/smile/mad/mad0233.gif (http://www.mysmiley.net/free-unhappy-smileys.php)


:biggrin:

[minga]

I've been thinking and I have concluded that there are only 3 reasons to have a gun. The first being to hunt. The second for protection and the third to kill yourself. Now George being in LE in the past would know that he is not allowed to have a gun in the home, garage, vehicle etc when Casey is out on bail. He could argue that he wanted it because of how crazy the situation has gotten and he was afraid of somebody breaking into the house. It's still not allowed but he could argue that. It could also be a totally different reason. I have heard of ex LE people saying that they would rather die than to get put in prison. Convicts in prison hate 3 different things. They hate child abusers, they hate rapists, and they hate ex LE. I have also heard of LE people who do commit a crime and who do actually kill themselves instead of going to prison. Really makes you wonder WHY George had that gun.


I really don't find it odd at all the GA keeps a gun. As former LE he would have carried one and it would have become second nature. I doubt that he would ever give one up and be without. I know many people don't own guns, but I wouldn't be without one.

What I do find strange is that he didn't surrender it to LE and hid it instead. When all is said and done, Casey being convicted or found innocent he would get his gun back. Apparently he didn't surrender it the first time either or they would have asked for it again. He must feel that the crowds might get more violent and that the protection they have is very limited. I might feel frightened with that crowd getting ever increasingly rabid if it were outside my house. Not defending GA I hope you understand, but just how I see it.

I think he might hide it to keep Casey from doing something to herself. Although we all know she'd never hurt herself.......only others, I don't think George gets that yet or if he ever will. I think they've regressed so far into denial they might never see the truth. Or they are accomplices after the fact. Also I get the idea that GA feels he is not affected by the same rules as others anyway.

I wonder what they will do since they found it, will they charge him for noncompliance with bail arrangements? I wish that could revoke her bail again.

[One2Snoop]

Unbelievable that the Anthonys would not cooperate in every way with the searches. Ironic that we teach our children to fear strangers, yet it seems like at this point, strangers are the only one's who seem to give a damn about Caylee.


Good point Loretta. We know why they don't want to cooperate, its because Cindy believes Caylee is alive. I'd love for that to be true but with the evidence thats been revealed so far, it's not looking good for little Caylee.

I also read elsewhere that approximately 800 volunteers showed up today! :beer: This didn't come from an official statement but I hope its true.

[minga]

Good point Loretta. We know why they don't want to cooperate, its because Cindy believes Caylee is alive. I'd love for that to be true but with the evidence thats been revealed so far, it's not looking good for little Caylee.

I also read elsewhere that approximately 800 volunteers showed up today! :beer: This didn't come from an official statement but I hope its true.

Crazy woman. Whether she is in denial or not she needs to provide the evidence. To me it points to cover up. A normal person or family would comply with requests. I hope it helps to get the grandparents locked up somehow. I don't trust them.

[One2Snoop]

Article posted confirming number of volunteers....

Updated: 3:08 p.m.

800 volunteers search for Caylee by OIA
Helen Eckinger | Sentinel Staff Writer
3:08 PM EDT, September 6, 2008
More than 800 local volunteers joined members of Texas-based EquuSearch to look for Caylee Marie Anthony near Orlando International Airport today, and deputy director Mandy Albritton said that volunteers are continuing to pour in.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/orl-bk-caylee-search-090608,0,6139522.story

[One2Snoop]

Crazy woman. Whether she is in denial or not she needs to provide the evidence. To me it points to cover up. A normal person or family would comply with requests. I hope it helps to get the grandparents locked up somehow. I don't trust them.

ITA minga!

[applesandorange]

I really don't find it odd at all the GA keeps a gun. As former LE he would have carried one and it would have become second nature. I doubt that he would ever give one up and be without. I know many people don't own guns, but I wouldn't be without one.

What I do find strange is that he didn't surrender it to LE and hid it instead. When all is said and done, Casey being convicted or found innocent he would get his gun back. Apparently he didn't surrender it the first time either or they would have asked for it again. He must feel that the crowds might get more violent and that the protection they have is very limited. I might feel frightened with that crowd getting ever increasingly rabid if it were outside my house. Not defending GA I hope you understand, but just how I see it.

I think he might hide it to keep Casey from doing something to herself. Although we all know she'd never hurt herself.......only others, I don't think George gets that yet or if he ever will. I think they've regressed so far into denial they might never see the truth. Or they are accomplices after the fact. Also I get the idea that GA feels he is not affected by the same rules as others anyway.

I wonder what they will do since they found it, will they charge him for noncompliance with bail arrangements? I wish that could revoke her bail again.


I should have clarified that I don't find it strange to have a gun either. Just the fact that he didn't surrender it and instead hid it. I too have a gun. I have it for protection as does most other people who own guns.

[applesandorange]

Crazy woman. Whether she is in denial or not she needs to provide the evidence. To me it points to cover up. A normal person or family would comply with requests. I hope it helps to get the grandparents locked up somehow. I don't trust them.


Couldn't LE get a subpoena for it?

[minga]

I should have clarified that I don't find it strange to have a gun either. Just the fact that he didn't surrender it and instead hid it. I too have a gun. I have it for protection as does most other people who own guns.

I understand. :) That's where I believe GA feels he is probably above the law and doesn't have to conform or comply and maybe Casey gets a little attitude from him as well. I think possibly the mix of george and cindy's genes didn't serve Casey well. I think they are both off the chain.




Couldn't LE get a subpoena for it?

Surely they can and will. If not I would think that was a failure on LE's part to do a thorough investigation. I hope it raises red flags for them.

[rosejustrose]

I don't think there's any doubt that Cindy loved and nurtured Caylee. Perhaps, and this could be way off base, but Cindy is not stupid and at some level she had to realize what a screwup Casey was and perhaps in some way feeling she didn't do a very good job raising Casey. Now she had another chance--a chance to love and nurture Caylee. Then the counselor makes the recomm. that Casey and Caylee find their own place; perhaps due to the contentious relationship between Cindy and Casey. Casey never wanted to have the baby in the first place and to top it off she sees Caylee as an obstacle to a " I want to do whatever I want whenever I want" lifestyle.( Especially at that age 2 going on 3. )Now Cindy has all that baggage to deal with, recriminations for letting Caylee out of her sight; guilt knowing Casey was not going to do the best for Caylee, etc etc. and all this got to her. She is totally whacked now. I also would not be surprised if we find out Casey did illegal drugs as well and that would also play into the guilt Cindy would feel.

I agree with you. None of us are perfect parents. Some parents don't realize how much their own actions and personalities influence their child. Cindy probably did realize this too late. She looked at Caylee as a little Casey. A chance to right her wrongs. Cindy is still not a stupid person. I noticed in the one interview she made the comment " as long as their is a chance that Caylee is alive I won't stop looking." She also said " the public should do the same for Caylee." To me when she was making those statements she was saying I know all this evidence is mounting. I know nothing makes sense but as long as they don't have a body there is a chance. I think she is holding onto that chance because it is far to painful for her to admit to the evidence at this point. I don't however agree with her supporting Casey. Then again Casey is all she has left of Caylee. Who knows why she's acting like this. I just wish they would find Caylee and give everyone closure.

I totally agree that she should not be coddling Casey. She would really do well to tell Casey in no uncertain terms that she has to divulge the whereabouts of her daughter. If she refused, then Cindy tells her " out of here,girl" back to the lock up. that's what I would be doing. If she did that, the court of public opinion would be swayed and in the long run I think Cindy would feel better. She is in no man's land now from the way I look at it!!! Just out there making a fool of herself......She needs to put the focus on finding out what really happened to Caylee no matter how she has to do it.

I agree with you all. I think Cindy, George and Lee are holding on to a live Casey and giving up on a dead Caylee. They have lost the little one so they are trying desperately not to lose the live one. The guilt and the doubts they feel must be tremendous. However, that does not excuse their actions. If they are "normal", responsible adults, they must realize that now is the time to step up to the plate and tell the truth. Surely they must want to find Caylee and lay her to rest with respect and dignity.

If I were Cindy, you can rest assured that Casey would much rather be in jail than in my house. I'd have her in a choke hold against a wall until she told me where my grandbaby was. No kid gloves. No Zenaida stories. No s/h/i/t. I'd demand the truth and I'd get it. If not, back to jail she'd go. We're not talking shoplifting or toilet papering a neighbor's house on halloween, we're talking murder, we're talking a little girl's life. Enough already. You can wash away smashed eggs, take down toilet paper, repay Macy's for stolen goods, but you CANNOT replace a child's life. I would not let her sleep one minute until she told the truth. Unless, of course, the parents know the truth and are cool with it. Maybe even in on it. JMHO.

[rosejustrose]

I understand. :) That's where I believe GA feels he is probably above the law and doesn't have to conform or comply and maybe Casey gets a little attitude from him as well. I think possibly the mix of george and cindy's genes didn't serve Casey well. I think they are both off the chain.






Surely they can and will. If not I would think that was a failure on LE's part to do a thorough investigation. I hope it raises red flags for them.

In most states/commonweatlths, no one can have or own a gun if there is a felon under their roof. Casey is an accused felon, no guns allowed. I agree with you. A great deal of Casey's arrogance comes from her parents. It's inexcusable that they will not offer a piece of clothing from Caylee for the searchers and now this. Throw the b/i/t/c/h back in jail and start writing warrents for the parents Orange County LE. Do the fine state of FL a favor. Get this trash off the streets. JMO and no offense intended.

[Woostock]

Rose just Rose
We are on the same page. If she were my daughter she would be calling LE to take her back. I would be so upset if she gave me that bull sh... let's put it this way--it wouldn't be pretty. We are talking about a defenseless child......who needs to be found no matter where she is. I think that the grandparents know on some level that Casey is no longer living. So there's nothing much they can do about that but they can try to protect their daughter because it's too much to bear, losing their grandaughter and daughter. I agree it is tragic; and heartbreaking but they really need to get it together, make Casey tell the truth and do the right thing or refuse to have her back at the house until she tells the truth. And she if doesn't she can't come home.As harsh as this sounds the path they are taking is in nobody's best interest. Enough is enough.

[Woostock]

That was a Freudian slip saying Casey was no long alive. Wow

[minga]

In most states/commonweatlths, no one can have or own a gun if there is a felon under their roof. Casey is an accused felon, no guns allowed. I agree with you. A great deal of Casey's arrogance comes from her parents. It's inexcusable that they will not offer a piece of clothing from Caylee for the searchers and now this. Throw the b/i/t/c/h back in jail and start writing warrents for the parents Orange County LE. Do the fine state of FL a favor. Get this trash off the streets. JMO and no offense intended.

George would have known that without being told. I am certain they were also informed of conditions when Casey was released and he didn't see fit to declare it. But apparently LE didn't think it was serious enough to violate the terms of release. Yet anyway. You never know what Orlando LE is going to do and when, it seems. :shrug: Which I happen to like in this case. :D

Maybe the gun in conjunction with the failure to aid the search and turn over something helpful in finding Caylee's body LE will go back and come up with something they can haul ole George in for. Without George I'd bet Cindy would come unglued.

[One2Snoop]

I agree George of all people should have known better than to have a gun in his home with Casey out on bail. :no:

Casey Anthony remains out of jail in home confinement

Casey Anthony will not be rearrested today for violating the conditions of her home confinement, after deputies found a handgun in the trunk of her father's car.

Early this morning, deputies arrived at the home of Anthony's parents, where she has been staying since her most recent release from jail on Friday morning, after receiving a tip that there was a weapon on the property. There, they found a handgun in the trunk of Casey's father, George Anthony, according to Allen Moore, a spokesman for the Orange County Corrections Department.

One of the conditions of the home confinement agreement that Casey Anthony signed prior to her release from jail is that there be no weapons on the property. But, because there was no indication that Anthony was aware of the gun's presence, Judge Stan Strickland advised the duty judge that he did not wish to bring her back into custody or modify the conditions of her bail because of the incident.

Anthony remains on home confinement as a condition of her bail.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/crime/orl-casey-anthony-090608,0,1122236.story

[One2Snoop]

Here's some info on owning a gun in the state of FL for those of you who are interested...

The 2008 Florida Statutes

Title XLVI
CRIMES Chapter 790
WEAPONS AND FIREARMS View Entire Chapter

790.06 License to carry concealed weapon or firearm.--


http://www.flsenate.gov/Statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&Search_String=&URL=Ch0790/SEC06.HTM&Title=-%3E2007-%3ECh0790-%3ESection%2006#0790.06

[minga]

I agree George of all people should have known better than to have a gun in his home with Casey out on bail. :no:

Casey Anthony remains out of jail in home confinement

Casey Anthony will not be rearrested today for violating the conditions of her home confinement, after deputies found a handgun in the trunk of her father's car.

Early this morning, deputies arrived at the home of Anthony's parents, where she has been staying since her most recent release from jail on Friday morning, after receiving a tip that there was a weapon on the property. There, they found a handgun in the trunk of Casey's father, George Anthony, according to Allen Moore, a spokesman for the Orange County Corrections Department.

One of the conditions of the home confinement agreement that Casey Anthony signed prior to her release from jail is that there be no weapons on the property. But, because there was no indication that Anthony was aware of the gun's presence, Judge Stan Strickland advised the duty judge that he did not wish to bring her back into custody or modify the conditions of her bail because of the incident.

Anthony remains on home confinement as a condition of her bail.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/crime/orl-casey-anthony-090608,0,1122236.story

Well I'd love to know who it's registered to. :eek:

[rosejustrose]

Well I'd love to know who it's registered to. :eek:

Ditto that :eek::eek:

[One2Snoop]

Now this isn't right :mad:

Life-Sized 'Caylee Doll,' 'Baby Killer' Signs Waved Outside Anthony Home
http://www.local6.com/news/17410789/detail.html

[applesandorange]

Now this isn't right :mad:

Life-Sized 'Caylee Doll,' 'Baby Killer' Signs Waved Outside Anthony Home
http://www.local6.com/news/17410789/detail.html


No it's not. I think it's disrespectful to Caylee. The doll was said to have a sign on that said " hi my name is Caylee have you seen my mommy?" That's just sick IMO.

[soccermom]

:eek: Did someone mention the word bomb?

http://www.mysmiley.net/imgs/smile/mad/mad0233.gif (http://www.mysmiley.net/free-unhappy-smileys.php)


:biggrin:

lol


:d:d:d:d:d:d:d:d:d

[soccermom]

Now this isn't right :mad:

Life-Sized 'Caylee Doll,' 'Baby Killer' Signs Waved Outside Anthony Home
http://www.local6.com/news/17410789/detail.html



People are angry --- but this is wrong........

I hope the search team finds something soon

[minga]

No it's not. I think it's disrespectful to Caylee. The doll was said to have a sign on that said " hi my name is Caylee have you seen my mommy?" That's just sick IMO.


How about the mother who had the sign on the 2 year old? :eek: I couldn't believe that. Well, yeah I can, there are some crazy people out there.

[Brainstorm]

People are angry --- but this is wrong........

I hope the search team finds something soon

ITA......HOPE we hear something positive, soon.

[rosejustrose]

The ring master of this circus is Casey and she can put a stop to it by telling the truth. There is no justifiable reason to make a mockery of this situation and Caylee's death. The madness needs to end and only the Anthony family can put a stop to it.

To Casey: We all know you killed your daughter, Caylee. She is gone and God is taking care of her now. Please let the world know where you put her body so this can stop. How dare you cause this pain to your family and so many others.

Stop the madness, now. MOO.

[lorettalockhorn]

Now this isn't right :mad:

Life-Sized 'Caylee Doll,' 'Baby Killer' Signs Waved Outside Anthony Home
http://www.local6.com/news/17410789/detail.html

Truly disgusting.

The ring master of this circus is Casey and she can put a stop to it by telling the truth. There is no justifiable reason to make a mockery of this situation and Caylee's death. The madness needs to end and only the Anthony family can put a stop to it.

To Casey: We all know you killed your daughter, Caylee. She is gone and God is taking care of her now. Please let the world know where you put her body so this can stop. How dare you cause this pain to your family and so many others.

Stop the madness, now. MOO.

As much as I believe that Casey and probably her parents are lying and/or withholding the truth, there is no way that they are responsible for the reprehensible behavior of others. Especially the people who claim to hate the media circus. So they contribute to it. GMAFB

What I don't understand is why the city or LE is allowing these people to congregate; seems like a license for peaceful protest would be required.

[lorettalockhorn]

Well I'd love to know who it's registered to. :eek:

The Caylee Doll link posted by O2S states that the gun belongs to George. He didn't understand the conditions of Casey's release? And how will he avail himself to the weapon to defend his family if it's locked in his trunk?

[applesandorange]

How about the mother who had the sign on the 2 year old? :eek: I couldn't believe that. Well, yeah I can, there are some crazy people out there.


I missed that one. Guess I can be glad I did?

[minga]

The Caylee Doll link posted by O2S states that the gun belongs to George. He didn't understand the conditions of Casey's release? And how will he avail himself to the weapon to defend his family if it's locked in his trunk?

It was stated before that GA didn't know whose gun it was. Which sounds like BS to me. He'd have to hide it somewhere. It would be accessible though by way of being in the garage with the doors down, but not quickly however.

I wonder who reported it. Who would know?

[minga]

I missed that one. Guess I can be glad I did?

It said something to the effect "how could you kill a baby like me?" or "how could you kill a 2 year old like me?" Either way it was terrible of that mother to exploit her child in that way. We can easily figure that little girl doesn't have a responsible mother either. :rolleyes: To expose a child to something of that nature and to use her to send a message is disgusting.

[Amy4]

I have no idea what the stain could be. It is very possible that Caylee was tossed in the trunk and left long enough for the second stage of decomp to begin, the liguid stage. It's very possible that bodily fluids stained the carpet in the trunk, it wouldn't surprise me with the heat in Florida. One factor that contributes to the rapid decay of a body is air. Hot and humid air would act as an accelerant. If Casey used chloroform, it's quite possible that Caylee gaged and vomitted or dispelled her bowels and bladder. Not quite the dirty diapers Cindy claimed, more damning, IMO. There is a world of difference between tossing a dirty diaper in a trunk and the liquid remains of a small body. I really feel uncomfortable talking about this stuff even though it is a fact of the dying process. JMHO.

Dr. Baden said on tv that something forms inside of the nose, mouth, and eyes after death and that the stain was most likely that fluid from Caylee's mouth.

[One2Snoop]

It said something to the effect "how could you kill a baby like me?" or "how could you kill a 2 year old like me?" Either way it was terrible of that mother to exploit her child in that way. We can easily figure that little girl doesn't have a responsible mother either. :rolleyes: To expose a child to something of that nature and to use her to send a message is disgusting.


http://i38.tinypic.com/2mzwc3t.jpg

[One2Snoop]

The Caylee Doll link posted by O2S states that the gun belongs to George. He didn't understand the conditions of Casey's release? And how will he avail himself to the weapon to defend his family if it's locked in his trunk?

Being ex-LE he understood, IMO.

[ErrinSpelling]

Being ex-LE he understood, IMO.

& also he understood the first time, she was released...maybe i dreamed this, but i could have sworn i read,they asked him, if he had any other guns,the 1st time & he said no...i don't think he bought 1 ,after casey went back to jail, but
the worst thing is- nothing would stop her from taking that gun & shooting
LE, the next time,they come to get her, forever...
i don't care if the judge believes she didn't know...she could have seen her father, with it later & then you have dead LE.

[lorettalockhorn]

Being ex-LE he understood, IMO.

Oh course he did. Did he and Cindy not agree to the conditions of her release? She's under house arrest on their property. They didn't sign an agreement with the court?

The judge was certainly more than fair, lenient and understanding.

[ErrinSpelling]

oops,i should have made my point.:o
this is just what makes me so mad, you get away with murder...it's just like the loaf of bread thing again,where you used to go to prison for that & now you can murder & then all these other things & you're still not in jail...GA imo,lied & what's to stop him, from getting another gun tomorrow.
& what kind of a silly thing is getting a sociopath, to sign a statement about not being around guns, or any statement...:confused:

[One2Snoop]

Oh course he did. Did he and Cindy not agree to the conditions of her release? She's under house arrest on their property. They didn't sign an agreement with the court?

The judge was certainly more than fair, lenient and understanding.

Exactly. Which is far more than she deserves at this point in time. IMO.

[rosejustrose]

http://i38.tinypic.com/2mzwc3t.jpg

This is just soooo wrong:mad: I guess it goes to show just how impassioned these people are about Caylee's case and Casey seemingly getting away with it. I wonder if Casey understands that she can put a stop to all this by just telling the truth. JMO.

[applesandorange]

http://i38.tinypic.com/2mzwc3t.jpg


This is terrible!! What kind of a parent would exploit their child like this? I mean other than Casey. I have a 3 year old and would NEVER do this.

[applesandorange]

& also he understood the first time, she was released...maybe i dreamed this, but i could have sworn i read,they asked him, if he had any other guns,the 1st time & he said no...i don't think he bought 1 ,after casey went back to jail, but
the worst thing is- nothing would stop her from taking that gun & shooting
LE, the next time,they come to get her, forever...
i don't care if the judge believes she didn't know...she could have seen her father, with it later & then you have dead LE.


That's exactly right. Not only that but GA and CA had to have signed an agreement. GA broke the agreement and so Casey should be back in jail. That's it. You lie and break rules, agreement broke. Back to jail. I'm not understanding why they got away with this.

[rosejustrose]

This is terrible!! What kind of a parent would exploit their child like this? I mean other than Casey. I have a 3 year old and would NEVER do this.

With the violence breaking out during these protests, it's hard to tell if they want justice for Caylee or vengence against Casey. I suppose they could be one in the same:shrug:

[applesandorange]

With the violence breaking out during these protests, it's hard to tell if they want justice for Caylee or vengence against Casey. I suppose they could be one in the same:shrug:


To a lot of people it's one in the same. Can't really blame them either.

[One2Snoop]

I don't know about the rest of you but I find this to be a bit freakish...

Tourists Travel To See, Photograph Missing Caylee Anthony's Mom
POSTED: 7:55 am EDT September 7, 2008
UPDATED: 8:05 am EDT September 7, 2008


ORLANDO, Fla. -- Florida tourists and other families are traveling to the home of Casey Anthony for a chance to see and possibly photograph the woman and chaos in her neighborhood.


The vacationing Parry family abandoned their vacation plans over the weekend, grabbed a camera and traveled to the home of Caylee Anthony's mother and family in Orange County.

"This is our last day before we go back (to Missouri) and we just had to see it for ourselves," Florida vacationer Tony Parry said.

Another family from Christmas, Fla., with eight children was seen posing for photographs in front of the Anthony home Saturday night.

"There has to be closure somehow, this will never end," a woman said late Saturday.

When Casey Anthony's mother, Cindy, stepped outside of the house Saturday, a man yelled, "You are going to burn in hell, Cindy" and others insulted her.

Saturday night there were about 100 people standing outside the home watching her.

http://www.local6.com/news/17412640/detail.html

[One2Snoop]

http://www.mysmiley.net/imgs/smile/sad/sad0024.gif (http://www.mysmiley.net/free-love-smileys.php)
The Caylee Casey Anthony Case & Caylee's Song
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SbX4OA2Kkss

click here for lyrics-
http://boards.crimelibrary.com/showpost.php?p=9122551&postcount=308

[minga]

With the violence breaking out during these protests, it's hard to tell if they want justice for Caylee or vengence against Casey. I suppose they could be one in the same:shrug:

They'll never budge Casey. She can outlast them all. It looks more like hatred and vengeance than any real concern about Caylee to me. If they were about Caylee they'd be out looking for her little body so they could put a needle in Casey's arm. Or at least give her a long sentence.

They might break George and Cindy but they won't touch Casey by whatever they do or say on that lawn. IMO

[scubadvr99]

I don't know about the rest of you but I find this to be a bit freakish...

Tourists Travel To See, Photograph Missing Caylee Anthony's Mom
POSTED: 7:55 am EDT September 7, 2008
UPDATED: 8:05 am EDT September 7, 2008


ORLANDO, Fla. -- Florida tourists and other families are traveling to the home of Casey Anthony for a chance to see and possibly photograph the woman and chaos in her neighborhood.


The vacationing Parry family abandoned their vacation plans over the weekend, grabbed a camera and traveled to the home of Caylee Anthony's mother and family in Orange County.

"This is our last day before we go back (to Missouri) and we just had to see it for ourselves," Florida vacationer Tony Parry said.

Another family from Christmas, Fla., with eight children was seen posing for photographs in front of the Anthony home Saturday night.

"There has to be closure somehow, this will never end," a woman said late Saturday.

When Casey Anthony's mother, Cindy, stepped outside of the house Saturday, a man yelled, "You are going to burn in hell, Cindy" and others insulted her.

Saturday night there were about 100 people standing outside the home watching her.

http://www.local6.com/news/17412640/detail.html

I agree one2, this is totally inappropriate. Like those kids carrying those signs. I don't agree with the circus that people have created around that house. It is not fair to the neighbors and regardless of what someone's feelings are on guilt or not guilty, it is not appropriate.

IMO, it does nothing but take away from the memory of Caylee. And IMO, it disrespects the memory of her.

[One2Snoop]

It's only temporary due to flooding in the area they are searching.

Equusearch halts search for Caylee

Last Edited: Sunday, 07 Sep 2008, 4:03 PM EDT

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail?contentId=7378423&version=1&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=1.1.1

[rosejustrose]

They'll never budge Casey. She can outlast them all. It looks more like hatred and vengeance than any real concern about Caylee to me. If they were about Caylee they'd be out looking for her little body so they could put a needle in Casey's arm. Or at least give her a long sentence.

They might break George and Cindy but they won't touch Casey by whatever they do or say on that lawn. IMO

Isn't that the truth. That girl isn't going to say one word. She'll be quiet to the day she dies. I wonder if that gun in George's car was going to be put to good use. This story has had one very unhappy ending, I see three more in the making. JMHO.

[rosejustrose]

It's only temporary due to flooding in the area they are searching.

Equusearch halts search for Caylee

Last Edited: Sunday, 07 Sep 2008, 4:03 PM EDT

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail?contentId=7378423&version=1&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=1.1.1


This is so unfortunate. With Ike bearing down and its track not known, who knows when Florida will "drain out" and be ready for searching again. If only there was one person who could get Casey to talk. I can't imagine what it's like in that house. Her parents, while not the brightest bulbs in the pack, aren't totally stupid. They must know in their hearts what Casey has done so why aren't they pressuring her to talk. Their lives have been turned upside down, they can't even leave the house without having cameras stuck in their faces and people screaming at them. In the face of all this, Casey remains silent. She's either completely innocent or completely evil. JMHO.

[lorettalockhorn]

RE: The comment by the Anthonys that the search should be for a live victim. They should willingly provide belongings of hers for the bloodhounds to use. By not doing so, are they not in fact hindering?

meh

[minga]

RE: The comment by the Anthonys that the search should be for a live victim. They should willingly provide belongings of hers for the bloodhounds to use. By not doing so, are they not in fact hindering?

meh

I definitely think they are hindering. Personally I hope they are building charges against George and Cindy as we wait and watch it unfold.

I was thinking earlier how time seems to pass so slowly when things are bad. Minutes, even seconds must feel like hours in that house.

[soccermom]

I definitely think they are hindering. Personally I hope they are building charges against George and Cindy as we wait and watch it unfold.

I was thinking earlier how time seems to pass so slowly when things are bad. Minutes, even seconds must feel like hours in that house.


I agree -- me too

[applesandorange]

I definitely think they are hindering. Personally I hope they are building charges against George and Cindy as we wait and watch it unfold.

I was thinking earlier how time seems to pass so slowly when things are bad. Minutes, even seconds must feel like hours in that house.


I agree Minga. I keep picturing in my mind Casey sitting at the computer smiling like there's nothing wrong. Makes me so mad. Hopefully we will get lucky and see all 3 Anthony's arrested at the same time.

[samanthajane13]

"Originally Posted by minga
I definitely think they are hindering. Personally I hope they are building charges against George and Cindy as we wait and watch it unfold.

I was thinking earlier how time seems to pass so slowly when things are bad. Minutes, even seconds must feel like hours in that house."


I really don't think they WANT her found.

If she IS found, there will be a load of physical evidence against Casey...

As long as she's missing, there's not proof that Princess did anything wrong.

So they live in denial for the rest of their lives...maybe in their minds, it's better than having to admit that Princess is a LOON and a MURDERER that they've been enabling all her life.

Why else would they refuse to give the searchers something to work with??

[One2Snoop]

I agree Minga. I keep picturing in my mind Casey sitting at the computer smiling like there's nothing wrong. Makes me so mad. Hopefully we will get lucky and see all 3 Anthony's arrested at the same time.

It appears George may have gotten himself into some hotwater today...


George Anthony Headed to Jail For Assaulting Protesters? :no:
http://blogs.discovery.com/criminal_report/

[applesandorange]

It appears George may have gotten himself into some hotwater today...


George Anthony Headed to Jail For Assaulting Protesters? :no:
http://blogs.discovery.com/criminal_report/


I wish they would press charges but I really doubt they will. Also it will most likely be a he said she said thing because it didn't look like the lady had any bruises or anything on her. Unless of course some news crew caught George in the act of pushing her.

[One2Snoop]

I wish they would press charges but I really doubt they will. Also it will most likely be a he said she said thing because it didn't look like the lady had any bruises or anything on her. Unless of course some news crew caught George in the act of pushing her.

There's a webcam focused on the house 24/7 and I believe hundreds of people watching the cam witnessed it. I don't know how a webcam works but I wold assume they're also recording.

[One2Snoop]

Here's an interview from one of the people shoved by George.


Protester/Victim of Casey Anthony's Dad - Part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYxsYsdqQsU

[applesandorange]

There's a webcam focused on the house 24/7 and I believe hundreds of people watching the cam witnessed it. I don't know how a webcam works but I wold assume they're also recording.

Well then I hope she does press charges. IMO George deserves to go to jail not just for this but for everything else he has done. These aren't the first people who George shoved. He also had a gun hidden that he wasn't supposed to have. He could very well have helped to cover up Caylee's murder. He doesn't cooperate with LE at all. It's about time LE does something with Mr. George Anthony.

[applesandorange]

Here's an interview from one of the people shoved by George.


Protester/Victim of Casey Anthony's Dad - Part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYxsYsdqQsU


I watched the video and thought. Maybe after this George will realize he's not above the law. I wonder what Cindy would do without George. IMO she would fall apart.

[lorettalockhorn]

I don't know about the rest of you but I find this to be a bit freakish...

You are too kind. It's every bit as bizarre as the Anthonys' behavior.

[One2Snoop]

I wanted to repost odettes post that captured Casey leaving jail - that smirk of hers burns my :flamemad: you know what! Just as many of you have stated earlier - she could end this circus today and tell where Caylee is, anytime now! :cuss:



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Casey Anthony, center, mother of missing 3-year-old girl Caylee Anthony, is escorted out of the Orange County Jail by attorney Jose Baez after posting $500,000 bail for a second time in Orlando, Fla., Friday, Sept. 5, 2008 - Photo from AP Photo by PHELAN EBENHACK

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http://www.daylife.com/photo/06HN4Co0COaZ4