Caylee Anthony Case Discussion Only

[Amy]

Gator TV puts 10 lbs on ya. She was heavier I agree though. You can tell by the way the jacket fit. It's pulling right under the collar. Bad fit. I wonder if Beaz brought it to her or one of the female lawyers. Cindy wouldn't send that. She'd have sent something much nicer. I'm sure Cindy is visiting George and he's most likely catatonic at this point. Heavily medicated. That's sadder then Casey needing clothes for her court appearances.

Remember OJ's and Scott P's clothes? GQ stuff. OJ's ties were worth thousands.

It was a hoot listening to HLN and FOX all day. The hosts, the TH's, they were talking about her "gray business suit." And "severe hair style." For pete's sake, it was a blasted blazer, and I'm not sure those were dress pants she had on. If she was going to be dressed in a "business" manner, doncha think her pants would have MATCHED? (I think someone here called it a blazer over her jail duds, and I am more inclined to agree w/that than dress pants.) And, SEVERE? Heck the spring chickens I work with wear their hair like that when they go out to freakin' party!!!! It wasn't a TIGHT bun, it was a fluffy, curly one. I do agree w/Jose on this tho---she would have been damned if she showed up in her jail uniform, or this attire, or a dress or whatever. She really doesn't have the chance of a snowball in hades to dress any way without people having some negative comments on it.

[Amy]

How could she do that, are you serious, how do you know that. I guess she had to use hot wax because I sure she is not allowed a razor.:shrug:

It was reported she used scotch tape to do the removal.

[Justice Denied?]

Susan Constantine's comments about today's appearance (sorry if this has been posted already):

...To the untrained eye, Anthony appeared to sit mostly without emotion, but Constantine said she seems depressed.

“Under her eyes she had dark circles, her skin to be very flat. She had a little extra weight on her. Her mouth was turned down. Her lips were turned down. That's sadness,” Constantine said.

Constantine also observed the mother accused of killing her 2-year-old daughter was uneasy during most of the forty minutes in the courtroom.

"There were several times where she was fidgeting with her hands at one point she was rubbing her hands together and what she was doing was showing she was anxious and nervous,” Constantine said. “She would take deep gulps during the hearing today and she looked like she was very nervous and she was concealing it."

Constantine said, in previous court appearances Anthony appeared like she was acting like a movie star, smirking and strutting. She said her demeanor is changing.

“Everything is becoming real to her and its showing on her facial expressions and her demeanor.”...

http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2009/1/30/what_anthony39s_body_language_means.html

The idea of LWOP has to be terrifying when you're22 years old.

[Amy]

Susan Constantine's comments about today's appearance (sorry if this has been posted already):
snip....

Constantine also observed the mother accused of killing her 2-year-old daughter was uneasy during most of the forty minutes in the courtroom.

"There were several times where she was fidgeting with her hands at one point she was rubbing her hands together and what she was doing was showing she was anxious and nervous,” Constantine said. “She would take deep gulps during the hearing today and she looked like she was very nervous and she was concealing it."

....snip

http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2009/1/30/what_anthony39s_body_language_means.html

Obviously Constantine had not heard of the reports of Casey's medical maladies. I would imagine that a boil that is hurting and a rash that is itching (that ya better not scratch in court) would make one fidget and squirm, rub your hands together and take deep breaths to keep from scratching that itch!!!!

[Justice Denied?]

THE QUESTIONS: Read "Notice Of Service Of Interrogatories"
Zenaida Gonzales vs Casey Anthony
http://www.wftv.com/news/18605417/detail.html

Wow! If I were a betting person, I would bet Casey does not answe these questions without being forced to and maybe not then. I mean, what can a judge do to her? She's already in jail in solitary confinement.

[Amy]

Update from local news mostly WKMG and Fox - Baez brought the Liar the clothes the night before the hearing. When the guard searched through the clothing, a white plastic bracelet was found IN A SOCK. Now that was no accident. It was a Caylee Marie's bracelet that they were trying to smuggle in to her to wear during the hearing. :no: The guards confiscated it.

The judge gave his ruling at around 5:30 in favor of TES.

Fox specifically mentioned the flirting the Liar was doing towards Baez. Right in the middle of Najmae's motion, she plops her hand right on Baez' papers to get his attention and then she laughs. The attention was off of her so she had to get it back.

The Judge did side with Baez to grant him access to the burial site.

Gator

I still don't get the burial site deal. They stood around the whole time (well, a lot of the time) while the investigation was going on, then when they were told they could go in, HMMPH,, Don't wanna anymore!!!! THEN, they make a motion to make the owner let them on the grounds. I guess, maybe it's just attention getting. See? SEEE???? WE have to go to court to get access, everyone's against us!!! WELL, Mr High Profile Lawyer Extrodinaire--IF YOU HAD GONE IN WHEN THEY RELEASED IT TO YOU, YOU WOULD HAVE GOTTEN THERE BEFORE THE BUGS AND VEGETATION CHANGED, BEFORE THE OWNER CHANGED HER MIND!!!! Whatcha gonna do next for attention, to stall things along? Give us a hint---PLEASE!!!!!! :D

[Justice Denied?]

When she came back out, her hands were free. I saw both of them above the table, and not together. I swear, I did see that.

I have alreadt admitted I was wrong. I realized it as soon as I saw her smooth her hair. I thought they hid the cuffs, but they removed them.

[Amy]

Watching NG, and boy does she give Cindy a pass on just about everything! But the panel is discussing the fact that Cindy didn't show up in court today; Nancy would swim a river to be there for one of the twins, and George gets a pass. Blah blah blah

What I don't get, is the same thing that I don't get about Casey. You would think that Cindy would want to see justice done for Caylee regardless of who killed her. And you would think that she would want to observe Casey's reactions, and just see her. Of course, you would think that Casey would want to take advantage of her right to face her accusers. And that doesn't seem to matter to her. If this whole circus is about The Other Side of the Story being told, why doesn't Casey want to see it all unfold?

And where was Lee? This family is baffling.

Almost painful to watch Baez stumbling and bumbling in front of the judge. Wouldn't you think that he would practice or something? And did he never try to get into the crime scene after it was released by the prosecution? Why is this just happening now?

I was thinking, he should have written his statements out completely and read them, it would have been more coherent than mumbling and looking like he didn't have a clue what he was asking. Well, maybe HE didn't have a clue? Just doing what the EXPERT lawyers told him to, them giving him the opportunity to act "the lead" lawyer? Of course, we would have blasted him if he read it word for word, :biggrin:

He didn't HAVE to try to get into the crime scene. When the investigation was over, the defense was told they could go in, but by that time they were in a tantrum befitting a 5 year old and didn't WANT to go in then. Because the scene wasn't pristine, it would give them no evidence, etc etc etc. NOW they want in. I think it's just because to do so now would require a court motion, and maybe some people would feel sorry for them, not realizing they threw away the chance a month ago.

[Amy]

I have alreadt admitted I was wrong. I realized it as soon as I saw her smooth her hair. I thought they hid the cuffs, but they removed them.

Sorry, I read that further on down the page, but had already passed the delete time allowance. I'm a few hours behind you all reading the posts.

[Amy]

Wow! If I were a betting person, I would bet Casey does not answe these questions without being forced to and maybe not then. I mean, what can a judge do to her? She's already in jail in solitary confinement.

I guess, cut way back on the commissary items available to her...no more pork rinds or scotch tape or twinkies or soothing lotions? You're right--what is there left for leverage to make her answer? And, IF she does, who is to say she will answer them truthfully. What are they gonna do to her for a perjury charge?

[lorettalockhorn]

Wow! If I were a betting person, I would bet Casey does not answe these questions without being forced to and maybe not then. I mean, what can a judge do to her? She's already in jail in solitary confinement.

LOL Well, the judge can take away her Scotch tape priveleges, by golly!

I do like the way that Morgan has Casey boxed in; she's has said before that Morgan's ZG isn't THE ZG. But she is duty bound to give information about the Sawgrass connection and the children's names. I like that. I also like that Morgan is asking her to qualify the information that she has about the "more than twenty Zenaida Gonzalezes".

I also like it that the unknown Zenaida Fernandez Gonzalez doesn't appear. That sounds like an admission to me that Baez knows that she doesn't exist.

[Justice Denied?]

Sorry, I read that further on down the page, but had already passed the delete time allowance. I'm a few hours behind you all reading the posts.

Hey, no problem! I've made bigger mistakes than that on here. http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-ashamed002.gif (http://www.freesmileys.org) http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-gen127.gif (http://www.freesmileys.org):beer:

[lorettalockhorn]

LOL Well, the judge can take away her Scotch tape priveleges, by golly!

I do like the way that Morgan has Casey boxed in; she's has said before that Morgan's ZG isn't THE ZG. But she is duty bound to give information about the Sawgrass connection and the children's names. I like that. I also like that Morgan is asking her to qualify the information that she has about the "more than twenty Zenaida Gonzalezes".

I also like it that the unknown Zenaida Fernandez Gonzalez doesn't appear. That sounds like an admission to me that Baez knows that she doesn't exist.

Meant that I like it that the unknown Zenaida Fernandez Gonzalez doesn't appear on the defense witness list.

[lorettalockhorn]

Talk on NG about Press Corps Media and Todd Black's real/legal name. Has there been any more information about that today? Why the secrecy? Is it just another example of what a chit magnet this case is?

[Twinners]

Anthony attorney: No date set for Caylee Marie Anthony memorial

Susan Jacobson | Sentinel Staff Writer
8:12 PM EST, January 30, 2009

For a few moments on Friday, it seemed that a memorial service for slain Orange County toddler Caylee Marie Anthony was about to happen and that the little girl whose disappearance has captivated the country would finally be put to rest.

Not so.

An attorney representing Caylee's grandparents, George and Cindy Anthony, said a press release issued by First Baptist Orlando incorrectly stated that a public memorial service would be held Feb. 10 at the 5,000-seat church on John Young Parkway.

"Until her remains are released, we cannot set a definite date," attorney Brad Conway said Friday night.

Moments earlier, a church spokesman told the Orlando Sentinel that the Anthonys had sanctioned the service after attending the church at Christmastime.

The release quoted senior pastor David Uth as saying, "As a church, we want to provide hope, healing and the opportunity to experience God's love. We believe that hosting the service will give us the opportunity to minister to a family in need and to a community that is hurting because of the loss of this precious child."

Conway said he would straighten out the misunderstanding with church officials.

Check back for updates.

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/orl-bk-caylee-anthony-funeral,0,6665378.story

[lighthousedazy]

Talk on NG about Press Corps Media and Todd Black's real/legal name. Has there been any more information about that today? Why the secrecy? Is it just another example of what a chit magnet this case is?I'm a little bit behind, and I don't know if the transcripts are up yet, but did I also hear on NG, that Todd Black may be Jose Baez? I am confused. :shrug: I agree this case is a chit magnet. I appreciate LKB insuring that the liar is afforded a fair trial, but we have many excellent lawyers in the South that could have done the same at the hearing today. jmo

[lorettalockhorn]

Anthony attorney: No date set for Caylee Marie Anthony memorial


Conway said he would straighten out the misunderstanding with church officials.

Check back for updates.

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/orl-bk-caylee-anthony-funeral,0,6665378.story

Ineffingsanity!!!!!!

[lorettalockhorn]

I'm a little bit behind, and I don't know if the transcripts are up yet, but did I also hear on NG, that Todd Black may be Jose Baez? I am confused. :shrug: I agree this case is a chit magnet. I appreciate LKB insuring that the liar is afforded a fair trial, but we have many excellent lawyers in the South that could have done the same at the hearing today. jmo

Haven't read it yet, but here's the NG transcript:

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0901/30/ng.01.html

It seems like back when Todd Black made his big faux pas about Caylee being dead, that there were some connections made to the Baez Law Firm, but sheesh who knows?

[lighthousedazy]

Ineffingsanity!!!!!!These people are insane. I thought this was set up for Feb. 10??

[lorettalockhorn]

These people are insane. I thought this was set up for Feb. 10??

Well, heck. That's what the guy from First Baptist announced. Unless I'm hallucinating. And not to put too fine a point on it, but Caylee's remains/cremains are really not necessary for a memorial service.

[lighthousedazy]

Haven't read it yet, but here's the NG transcript:

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0901/30/ng.01.html

It seems like back when Todd Black made his big faux pas about Caylee being dead, that there were some connections made to the Baez Law Firm, but sheesh who knows?Thanks Loretta.

"LANCE: That`s a good question, Nancy, and that`s one that they are not answering at this point. They`re not telling us their real name, they`re also saying when Jose Baez was taken up with the bar, they said that the statements they made about the state had nothing to do with Jose Baez, because they`re not connected with them, and he`s not paying their bills.

GRACE: How do we know that if we don`t know who it is? How do we know the P.R. person isn`t really Jose Baez? We have no idea who the P.R. person is.

LANCE: We don`t know, Nancy. And in this time that I have been down here, I have never once at least to my knowledge seen this P.R. person, I have spoken to him before, but I have never seen him in person. I don`t think anybody down here has ever seen him in person."

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0901/30/ng.01.html

[lorettalockhorn]

Thanks Dazy! I don't think Todd Black sounds anything like Jose:

http://www.truveo.com/Audio-Of-Todd-Black-Interview/id/10285618

(Which doesn't mean that someone isn't pretending to be TB, who may very well be Jose. One thing the two have in common, is that they are both lousy public speakers.)

[lighthousedazy]

Thanks Dazy! I don't think Todd Black sounds anything like Jose:

http://www.truveo.com/Audio-Of-Todd-Black-Interview/id/10285618

(Which doesn't mean that someone isn't pretending to be TB, who may very well be Jose. One thing the two have in common, is that they are both lousy public speakers.)
I agree this Todd Black does not sound like Jose. In this tape though, even Mike Galanos sounds different but I can still tell it is MG.

[Kendu]

No one has exploited, sensationalized or profited from this case more the Nasty Nancy Grace. Her along with her BFF (con man, media *****) LP have turn this into a never ending, cliffhanger, sopa opera. The same videos, the same pictures over and over and over night after night. The LOST tapes that werent lost just unreleased. The secret jail house tapes that werent secret. What she eats, her clothes.
Tonight's bombshell---Casey used her left hand to wipe her butt.
Breaking news--Casey watched Judge Judy in the rec room
Amazing video of Casey sitting in a chair with her legs crossed and picking her nose.
Tuesday she gave that missing 6 year old balck child 30 seconds then back to the secret tapes for the 100th time. Oh and lets not forget " How beautyfull little John David and Lucy are" She going to exploit them also. I hope she treats them with more respect then she treats the talking head Lawyers she has on.
All this and she has the lowest rated show in cable news.
This is a circus and Nancy is the ringmaster.

[Lodi]

I spent about an hour on google going in circles with the names Todd Black and Gil Cabot (Gilbert A. Cabot) There is a real Todd Black who is a successful Hollywood producer but the one working with Press Corp Media is not the same. Todd Black may be an ex-con named Gil Cabot connected to Press Corp Media and Arrested Media.

Story Brokers
P.O. Box 144
Hollywood, CA 90078-0144
Phone: (323) 549-9300
Contacts: G.A. Cabot, acquisitions and packaging; Crystal Gilmore, research and development
Biz: Acquires true-story properties and partners with actor-owned production companies for actors to star in or produce/direct.
Recent pics: "The George Jones Story," "The Laci Peterson Story, "Rock 'n' Roll 'n' More: The Little Richard Story"
Advice: Be brief and clear and understand that we only deal with true-story properties.

More about Gil Cabot: http://gilcabot.com/

[eatcupcakes]

Watching NG, and boy does she give Cindy a pass on just about everything! But the panel is discussing the fact that Cindy didn't show up in court today; Nancy would swim a river to be there for one of the twins, and George gets a pass. Blah blah blah

What I don't get, is the same thing that I don't get about Casey. You would think that Cindy would want to see justice done for Caylee regardless of who killed her. And you would think that she would want to observe Casey's reactions, and just see her. Of course, you would think that Casey would want to take advantage of her right to face her accusers. And that doesn't seem to matter to her. If this whole circus is about The Other Side of the Story being told, why doesn't Casey want to see it all unfold?

And where was Lee? This family is baffling.

Almost painful to watch Baez stumbling and bumbling in front of the judge. Wouldn't you think that he would practice or something? And did he never try to get into the crime scene after it was released by the prosecution? Why is this just happening now?

Does it cross your mind that maybe Cindy is depressed and does not want to got anywhere. Thats how I would feel. She very likley saw KC on TV and I am sure she gets updates from JB and I would not be surprised if he is passing verbal messages back and forth. As for Lee, well I would stay as far away from the Liar as I could, look how she has screwed up his life and what she has done to the whole family.

NG would swim a river to get to court to see her kids because they are babies and have not done anything yet to sour her feelings. If they killed her grandbaby I think she would want to drowned them in a river. NG is so full of crap, I use to like her but my feelings are changing. She needs to just stay home with the Twins.

[eatcupcakes]

No one has exploited, sensationalized or profited from this case more the Nasty Nancy Grace. Her along with her BFF (con man, media *****) LP have turn this into a never ending, cliffhanger, sopa opera. The same videos, the same pictures over and over and over night after night. The LOST tapes that werent lost just unreleased. The secret jail house tapes that werent secret. What she eats, her clothes.
Tonight's bombshell---Casey used her left hand to wipe her butt.
Breaking news--Casey watched Judge Judy in the rec room
Amazing video of Casey sitting in a chair with her legs crossed and picking her nose.
Tuesday she gave that missing 6 year old balck child 30 seconds then back to the secret tapes for the 100th time. Oh and lets not forget " How beautyfull little John David and Lucy are" She going to exploit them also. I hope she treats them with more respect then she treats the talking head Lawyers she has on.
All this and she has the lowest rated show in cable news.
This is a circus and Nancy is the ringmaster.

:beer:I could not have said it better. Maybe they are just letting her run out her contract. Also why the heck is her producer, Natisha, in Fla reporting the news. That is not what producers do, it is very strange.

[Woostock]

What is the average age of death for a white female in this country?

[Lodi]

Caylee's story is becoming a goldmine for the media, attorneys, experts, talking heads, and Orlando. They want to keep it going as long as possible. This is why all the craziness.

[Lodi]

What is the average age of death for a white female in this country?

For a new born white female, about 80 years. As it grows older, the average rises. A white female 80 years old will live to be 89 as an average.

[Woostock]

And Casey is 22 yrs old. If she can do the math, that is pretty frightening. Over 60 yrs if she lives to be in her 80s. In some ways, that is more of a punishment than the DP..

[eatcupcakes]

For a new born white female, about 80 years. As it grows older, the average rises. A white female 80 years old will live to be 89 as an average.


What is the life expectency of men. My father is 92 and is pretty healthy.

[Lodi]

What is the life expectency of men. My father is 92 and is pretty healthy.

The average for a white male at birth is 75.29 years. I can't find a figure for the expectancy of a male 92 but a guess would be around 99.

[eatcupcakes]

I like Klass. NG made him edit his first statement last night. (She's such a witch.) He completely understood George's actions. And he was right on with his answer when she asked if he would be in court to support his daughter. He said yes. Then he said, "I don't come from that kind of dysfunction so it wouldn't happen to me." (Paraphrased) That's the general consensus in the opinions of the people. It's hard to answer to the Anthony's decisions because they are not the average American family type people.

NG was trying to get someone to say that the Anthony's believe the liar killed Caylee but no one would. (OR COULD) Amy I need your memory. Who is the talking head attorney from NY. I like him.

Amy is the Memory Keeper's Daughter :seeya:

I'm not Amy but I think its D'Ofrieo not sure how to spell it. Is that right AMy

[eatcupcakes]

I agree. Not only that, but the Dp will cost the tax payers a fortune. They live off us and it takes along time to get the needle. Life is harder than death in prison. IMO. I can thnk of a lot of good things to do with my taxes. (Like save little children from monsters like her)

I was thinking about this today, I don't think Life Prisoners have the same life span as the rest of us. First of all their diet is awful and secondly I don't think they get good medical care. Such as preventative. I would bet the women don't get yearly Mamograms as recommended by the ACS or yearly Pap Smears. I only think they get treated when sick and I don't know how good that treatment is.

[Woostock]

I don't know about the level of medical care one gets in prison but regardless, the life expectancy of a 22 yr old who is sentenced to Life will spend many yrs there. That is what Casey can look forward to...

[eatcupcakes]

I don't know about the level of medical care one gets in prison but regardless, the life expectancy of a 22 yr old who is sentenced to Life will spend many yrs there. That is what Casey can look forward to...

No doubt. And lets pray she has a long life in Prison.

[eatcupcakes]

Where are you when I need you. Please tell me how I send you a email, I need to talk to you about dogs. Thanks

[eatcupcakes]

Good post! I know that this family is not average and part of me believes they poked holes in their own ship. They had a superficial lifestyle. Nice furniture too! They threw that baby out with the bath water from the moment she was born. Denial and noise control got them to this place. Casey was allowed to be irresponsible because they refused to address what was really wrong. They were too busy covering up for her.

It is always more noble to get help for a child you can't control, than to hide the problem which is obvious to all. We know that Cindy went for help but then rearranged chairs on a ship that was going down. Too late. Now the world is watching their decadent family suffer and no one cares about the pretty furniture, cars, house, drapes, clothes etc. money doesn't protect anyone from anything. They needed a clue long ago.

NG is an actress. It's all entertainment. She likes being hated, its her job. She throws the twins in the mix for ratings. Notice when the callers compliment the twins, she gets the mommy face going. I'd never put children on that show. They don't belong there. She makes enough money without using them as a source..

She has no idea what she'd do if her daughter was in court for murder. She doesn't even know how to keep her baby's binky with the baby.

My opinion as usual.


Yeah, when a caller says something about the twins she becomes all soft and swishey, she goes from being a bi-atch to having a big smile and dreamy eyes in a split second when the twins are mentioned.

Bombshell - Lucy is walking, took her first steps today. BFD

[Kendu]

Yeah, when a caller says something about the twins she becomes all soft and swishey, she goes from being a bi-atch to having a big smile and dreamy eyes in a split second when the twins are mentioned.

Bombshell - Lucy is walking, took her first steps today. BFD


She's out done Kathy Lee Griffin talking about Cody.

[javahog]

It was a hoot listening to HLN and FOX all day. The hosts, the TH's, they were talking about her "gray business suit." And "severe hair style." For pete's sake, it was a blasted blazer, and I'm not sure those were dress pants she had on. If she was going to be dressed in a "business" manner, doncha think her pants would have MATCHED? (I think someone here called it a blazer over her jail duds, and I am more inclined to agree w/that than dress pants.) And, SEVERE? Heck the spring chickens I work with wear their hair like that when they go out to freakin' party!!!! It wasn't a TIGHT bun, it was a fluffy, curly one. I do agree w/Jose on this tho---she would have been damned if she showed up in her jail uniform, or this attire, or a dress or whatever. She really doesn't have the chance of a snowball in hades to dress any way without people having some negative comments on it.

And can I point out, they were pegged 80's pants, and I think the blazer might have escaped from that era, too. Not to mention white socks and Aerosoles. Someone went to Goodwill-I wonder why they couldn't just give Cindy a call and ask for some of her own clothes to be picked up? I'm sure she had something stretchy enough...

[javahog]

I spent about an hour on google going in circles with the names Todd Black and Gil Cabot (Gilbert A. Cabot) There is a real Todd Black who is a successful Hollywood producer but the one working with Press Corp Media is not the same. Todd Black may be an ex-con named Gil Cabot connected to Press Corp Media and Arrested Media.

Story Brokers
P.O. Box 144
Hollywood, CA 90078-0144
Phone: (323) 549-9300
Contacts: G.A. Cabot, acquisitions and packaging; Crystal Gilmore, research and development
Biz: Acquires true-story properties and partners with actor-owned production companies for actors to star in or produce/direct.
Recent pics: "The George Jones Story," "The Laci Peterson Story, "Rock 'n' Roll 'n' More: The Little Richard Story"
Advice: Be brief and clear and understand that we only deal with true-story properties.

More about Gil Cabot: http://gilcabot.com/

To find out what he's so worked up about on that web page, just google "Gilbert A. Cabot" and "extortion".

Notice that the law firm that was involved in the litigation is based in Nashville, just like Press Corps Media...

[Justice Denied?]

Anthony attorney: No date set for Caylee Marie Anthony memorial

Susan Jacobson | Sentinel Staff Writer
8:12 PM EST, January 30, 2009

For a few moments on Friday, it seemed that a memorial service for slain Orange County toddler Caylee Marie Anthony was about to happen and that the little girl whose disappearance has captivated the country would finally be put to rest.

Not so.

An attorney representing Caylee's grandparents, George and Cindy Anthony, said a press release issued by First Baptist Orlando incorrectly stated that a public memorial service would be held Feb. 10 at the 5,000-seat church on John Young Parkway.

"Until her remains are released, we cannot set a definite date," attorney Brad Conway said Friday night.

Moments earlier, a church spokesman told the Orlando Sentinel that the Anthonys had sanctioned the service after attending the church at Christmastime.

The release quoted senior pastor David Uth as saying, "As a church, we want to provide hope, healing and the opportunity to experience God's love. We believe that hosting the service will give us the opportunity to minister to a family in need and to a community that is hurting because of the loss of this precious child."

Conway said he would straighten out the misunderstanding with church officials.

Check back for updates.

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/orl-bk-caylee-anthony-funeral,0,6665378.story

So, I get it that no time or date has been set. Is this service something that George and Cindy sanctioned or is the church doing this on its own? The remains don't have to be released to have a MEMORIAL service, for goodness sake. I thought the judge ordered the remains released.:mad::flamemad:

[javahog]

So, I get it that no time or date has been set. Is this service something that George and Cindy sanctioned or is the church doing this on its own? The remains don't have to be released to have a MEMORIAL service, for goodness sake. I thought the judge ordered the remains released.:mad::flamemad:

They are Casey's only leverage. No way she releases without something in return. Since she's sitting pretty in pork rinds, what does she want? Witnesses to support her. Good luck.

I'm sure the date was actually set-remember when they were first finishing up with the examination, they were saying the remains would be released "as early as Wednesday" whatever December date that was...but then, no release, but its the defense that won't...A veritable poopstorm will break out over the remains, I predict...everyone is avoiding getting it started right now, but its coming, I think...

[Justice Denied?]

No one has exploited, sensationalized or profited from this case more the Nasty Nancy Grace. Her along with her BFF (con man, media *****) LP have turn this into a never ending, cliffhanger, sopa opera. The same videos, the same pictures over and over and over night after night. The LOST tapes that werent lost just unreleased. The secret jail house tapes that werent secret. What she eats, her clothes.
Tonight's bombshell---Casey used her left hand to wipe her butt.
Breaking news--Casey watched Judge Judy in the rec room
Amazing video of Casey sitting in a chair with her legs crossed and picking her nose.
Tuesday she gave that missing 6 year old balck child 30 seconds then back to the secret tapes for the 100th time. Oh and lets not forget " How beautyfull little John David and Lucy are" She going to exploit them also. I hope she treats them with more respect then she treats the talking head Lawyers she has on.
All this and she has the lowest rated show in cable news.
This is a circus and Nancy is the ringmaster.

A thought occured to me last night while watching NG. We have all been wondering where the A's are getting their money. Well, NG has a lot of baby pictures of Caylee that no one else seems to have. Well, they had to come from somewhere and I'm betting someone got a very handsome fee for them.
Could it be G & C sold them to HLN? Just wondering?

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And Casey is 22 yrs old. If she can do the math, that is pretty frightening. Over 60 yrs if she lives to be in her 80s. In some ways, that is more of a punishment than the DP..

And I personally hope she serves every day of it with no men, no drugs, no booze, no decent food, no tv, no cell phone, no computer, no texting no....well you get the idea. JMO

[javahog]

I like Klass. NG made him edit his first statement last night. (She's such a witch.) He completely understood George's actions. And he was right on with his answer when she asked if he would be in court to support his daughter. He said yes. Then he said, "I don't come from that kind of dysfunction so it wouldn't happen to me." (Paraphrased) That's the general consensus in the opinions of the people. It's hard to answer to the Anthony's decisions because they are not the average American family type people.

NG was trying to get someone to say that the Anthony's believe the liar killed Caylee but no one would. (OR COULD) Amy I need your memory. Who is the talking head attorney from NY. I like him.

Amy is the Memory Keeper's Daughter :seeya:

I totally respect Mark Klaas and his opinions on this case. Not only can he speak as a guy who lost a loved one to murder (George), but he can speak as a parent accused of killing their child. Of course, HE was innocent. (After the "excitement" of the search died down here, there were so many dirty little implications that he had done it on local media and people started to think he might have been the culprit...)

[javahog]

And I personally hope she serves every day of it with no men, no drugs, no booze, no decent food, no tv, no cell phone, no computer, no texting no....well you get the idea. JMO

The way things are going, it won't be long before prisoners have not only laptops but free wireless. It might violate their rights not to have it...I wish we could put her under the jurisdiction of that Arpaio sherriff...that would end the cocoa butter slathers real quick.

[javahog]

Hi Brain-Remember waaaaay back when-Sara and I were going to hold her down so you could do your thing. Offer still stands and i will bring your/our bail monies :D We just gotta figure out how to sneak in now :rolleyes:

Dress yourself up as a giant pork rind. Apparently they let her have a lot of those.

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I agree. Not only that, but the Dp will cost the tax payers a fortune. They live off us and it takes along time to get the needle. Life is harder than death in prison. IMO. I can thnk of a lot of good things to do with my taxes. (Like save little children from monsters like her)

I remember hearing when they were talking about the Jessica Lansford case that the average case is 14 1/2 years from conviction til execution with all the appeals and everything.

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Okay, I'm on a rant today!

How come Casey Anthony, or anyone else with money, has an easier time in jail than people who are broke?! The system is broken, d**n it! Casey sits there with her "treats" while some poor woman has chapped lips and dry skin! Equal treatment for all!!! Not special treatment based on ability to PAY!!!

And as for the monies paying for programs? What programs, art therapy classes? Give me a break! Cut off the commissary! I'm going to go research if there are these wealth based jail programs here now...

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I wonder if the scotch tape is a good idea. Ya know, wrap it around her neck?She can make a noose with it or eat it. She can drink the lotion and commit suicide that way too. I guess she isn't on suicide watch. Good.

Oooooo, BOO Fkn Hooooo! Tony Soprano
Actually I think she is on some kind of suicide watch. They have reported she is under constant surveilance.

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I remember hearing when they were talking about the Jessica Lansford case that the average case is 14 1/2 years from conviction til execution with all the appeals and everything.

Wow. That's way faster than California, I think. By the time executions happen out here, all the reporters who covered the cases are dead and the victim's family goes in to San Quentin in wheelchairs.

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I like Klass. NG made him edit his first statement last night. (She's such a witch.) He completely understood George's actions. And he was right on with his answer when she asked if he would be in court to support his daughter. He said yes. Then he said, "I don't come from that kind of dysfunction so it wouldn't happen to me." (Paraphrased) That's the general consensus in the opinions of the people. It's hard to answer to the Anthony's decisions because they are not the average American family type people.

NG was trying to get someone to say that the Anthony's believe the liar killed Caylee but no one would. (OR COULD) Amy I need your memory. Who is the talking head attorney from NY. I like him.

Amy is the Memory Keeper's Daughter :seeya:

Amy, are you keeping my memory? I seem to have lost it somewhere!:D:biggrin::D

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No kidding Loretta-Forever in our hearts bracelet inscription would only apply to those with a heart. So that excludes the Liar. What the hay is holding up this burial. Is it still Bozo? Surely to god his testing has been completed? This is just inhumane. MOO:(

I am sure he is covering because Casey won't release her.

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Good post! I know that this family is not average and part of me believes they poked holes in their own ship. They had a superficial lifestyle. Nice furniture too! They threw that baby out with the bath water from the moment she was born. Denial and noise control got them to this place. Casey was allowed to be irresponsible because they refused to address what was really wrong. They were too busy covering up for her.

It is always more noble to get help for a child you can't control, than to hide the problem which is obvious to all. We know that Cindy went for help but then rearranged chairs on a ship that was going down. Too late. Now the world is watching their decadent family suffer and no one cares about the pretty furniture, cars, house, drapes, clothes etc. money doesn't protect anyone from anything. They needed a clue long ago.

NG is an actress. It's all entertainment. She likes being hated, its her job. She throws the twins in the mix for ratings. Notice when the callers compliment the twins, she gets the mommy face going. I'd never put children on that show. They don't belong there. She makes enough money without using them as a source..

She has no idea what she'd do if her daughter was in court for murder. She doesn't even know how to keep her baby's binky with the baby.

My opinion as usual.

Let me just put my 2 cents in here and also ask a question. Now I am sure that NG has prety good security and a lot of people around her twins, but as a mother I would not want my children's pictures out there for everyone to see, including pedophiles and child molesters. I would be scared to death of kidnapping, either for ransom or by some sick, evil person. What do y'all think?

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Actually I think she is on some kind of suicide watch. They have reported she is under constant surveilance.

Must be great memos logged for that if reports are true:
9 am: still sleeping
10:30: breakfast of poptarts, pork rinds
11 am: attempted Brazilian wax job with scotch tape
12 noon: request for infirmary visit...
1 pm: scratching; lunch of cole slaw and bologna
2 pm: another request for infirmary visit
3 pm: request for "softer" coveralls; request for chair "donut", request for Gas-X
4 pm: commissary delivery: dinner of poptarts
5 pm: "reading Bible" under covers
6 pm: back to sleep

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Let me just put my 2 cents in here and also ask a question. Now I am sure that NG has prety good security and a lot of people around her twins, but as a mother I would not want my children's pictures out there for everyone to see, including pedophiles and child molesters. I would be scared to death of kidnapping, either for ransom or by some sick, evil person. What do y'all think?

Yeah. My avatar will soon disappear, as my hubby objected. And pretty much anyone could find NG if they really wanted to

[Native Alien]

Actually I think she is on some kind of suicide watch. They have reported she is under constant surveilance.

I think that they mean that because she is in protective custody she is under constant surveillance. That can mean that there is a camera wired to a central monitoring station not necessarily that there is someone sitting there watching her all the time.

I remember on one of the video's that she said that they had to clear the other prisoners out of the area and put up the screen so that she could have visitors. I would have thought that it would have been easier to just put them in a little room by themselves and use a single guard along with camera monitoring.

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Thanks J, I didn't know that. I doubt she needs it. She seems to be having a full blown love affair with herself.

Last night I was watching the repeats of video's on NG and the first court appearance was tuff on her. When I was looking at her face, I thought about Cindy's 911 call and imagined Casey was blaming her for all the hell she was in at that time. Trying to think like her, I suspect she blames Cindy for the whole gamut. Socio's don't blame themselves, do they???

I smell alot of "Not Me" syndrome here. Is she a sociopath? Possibly. Does she have not me syndrome definitely. Just so everyone knows, not me syndrome is not a legitimate diagnosis. It is a phrase coined by someone that I know that went thru some really tough things because her husband was in councilling. He was never at fault for anything bad that happened in his life. It was always someone else's fault for what happened to him The sad part is that the not me thing was re-enforced by his "therapist" when they blamed everything on his mental health issues. Funny that a 3 day stint in the city jail seems to have cured him when years of therapy couldn't.

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Thats has been my thinking-one last bit of control for her. I just was not clear on how the law worked down there. She is next of kin and not yet convicted. If that's the case it speaks volumes. Bozo must be ripping his hair out trying to cover for her and get her to move this along. I truly hope it is her holding this up as it's just one of many things that will seal her own fate. The caring innocent mother who denies her child a proper burial-yep speaks volumes. I totally forgot that we will have the Z.G. civil case up before the murder trial. Now that shall be interesting-much wider scope of questioning and no wiggling away from the nanny story. I am soooo looking forward.:rose:

The only way that Casey will answer any questions beyond her name and birthdate in the nanny case is if she doesn't drop the countersuit that she has going. Other than that they can't force her to answer any questions that could incriminate her.

If she does drop the countersuit, then she won't answer anything other than to state her name, birthdate, and that she is invoking her 5th Amendment rights.

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So, I get it that no time or date has been set. Is this service something that George and Cindy sanctioned or is the church doing this on its own? The remains don't have to be released to have a MEMORIAL service, for goodness sake. I thought the judge ordered the remains released.:mad::flamemad:

From what I have heard and read to date, this was something that George and Cindy set up shortly after Caylee's remains were found. They didn't realize how long it would take to get all the test results back.

Then I noted yesterday that Bozo said again that he was still missing some of the forensic discovery. So I am wondering if some of the toxicology reports and the dna material isn't back yet or the state hasn't given it up yet to him.

I also thought that they were going to hear the motion about Jesse Grund's dna and his being Caylee's father possibly. But all of that is contained in the parentage card where he had the two dna tests done. Which is logged into the evidence for the case so maybe they did finally get him copies of that.

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And I personally hope she serves every day of it with no men, no drugs, no booze, no decent food, no tv, no cell phone, no computer, no texting no....well you get the idea. JMO


I agree. LWOP with none of her favorite activities would be the worst punishment. I know if I were accused of murder and facing LWOP or DP, I would be hoping for DP with no appeals happening. Just put me out of my misery.

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Yeah. My avatar will soon disappear, as my hubby objected. And pretty much anyone could find NG if they really wanted to

What? You don't care if your dog gets "dognapped?":D Seriously, I am glad you removed the picture although it was very precious and we all enjoyed seeing it. I will not post pictures or even give my exact location, justy as a precaution. Don't want some pervert using my pictures to satisfy his sexual pleasures.

[javahog]

No kidding-do u mean Sherriff Joe from Maricopa County out in AZ? Tent City. I luv Sherriff Joe. Need more of them. Or is this someone like him?

No, that's him! I don't think there's anyone like him, UNFORTUNATELY! They should give him the Really Heinous Prisoner Jail and send the worst of them from around the country, then I would be happy!

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What? You don't care if your dog gets "dognapped?":D Seriously, I am glad you removed the picture although it was very precious and we all enjoyed seeing it. I will not post pictures or even give my exact location, justy as a precaution. Don't want some pervert using my pictures to satisfy his sexual pleasures.

Eww...I just got an image of a pervert satisfying his sexual pleasures with a picture of my dog!

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Thanks J, I didn't know that. I doubt she needs it. She seems to be having a full blown love affair with herself.

Last night I was watching the repeats of video's on NG and the first court appearance was tuff on her. When I was looking at her face, I thought about Cindy's 911 call and imagined Casey was blaming her for all the hell she was in at that time. Trying to think like her, I suspect she blames Cindy for the whole gamut. Socio's don't blame themselves, do they???

Absolutely, positivily (sp) never! I am sure Cindy gets most of the blame but she probably blames the judge, too.

I still maintain that Casey never thought it would go this far. I think she planned to disappear. And if she couldn't, probably thought it would be a simple missing child case at the worst. Never thought LE would investigate it as A HOMICIDE.

Now I think she is enjoying all the media attention attention and all the circus, but I think she really wants it over with so she can get out of jail and get on with her life. She probably feels Caylee's death wasn't her fault so they won't convict her.

Someone did say that she stated she like jail when asked to go to court. I hope she likes prison as well.

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Absolutely, positivily (sp) never! I am sure Cindy gets most of the blame but she probably blames the judge, too.

I still maintain that Casey never thought it would go this far. I think she planned to disappear. And if she couldn't, probably thought it would be a simple missing child case at the worst. Never thought LE would investigate it as A HOMICIDE.

Now I think she is enjoying all the media attention attention and all the circus, but I think she really wants it over with so she can get out of jail and get on with her life. She probably feels Caylee's death wasn't her fault so they won't convict her.

Someone did say that she stated she like jail when asked to go to court. I hope she likes prison as well.

I'll bet prison will like her. I just picture all those women in prison who only see their children once a year. Yeah, they'll love her.

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ITA, beem.

I have to say it again. She destroyed her whole family. I think Casey had a brat attack the night she killed Caylee and she can't unring that bell. Consequence is not her strong point. She's a spoiled little girl. She wanted to delete what ever her mother needed/loved because she was mad. (and I use that term lightly.)

This is inhumane that's true. No part of me understands why Caylee's remains are not put to rest. I have a lot of theories but no answers. Maybe the mental and emotional condition of the family members is delaying it? :shrug:

Am I loosing my mind or what? I thought that was why the Anthonys' attorney was in court yesterday. I also thought the judge ordered the remains to be released to the A's. Did I dream that?

[javahog]

Has anyone seen a written transcript of yesterdays hearing? Every time I try to pause or fast forward the video, it goes back to the beginning...tia!

[javahog]

NEWS ALERT! CINDY will be interviewed by GERALDO this weekend!

http://www.foxnews.com/geraldo/

This will be repulsive. I can't stand him. Really. And that was even before he gave away troop locations.

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Eww...I just got an image of a pervert satisfying his sexual pleasures with a picture of my dog!

Don't type things like that without a warning. :no: I almost wet my pants I laughed so hard.:biggrin::biggrin:

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NEWS ALERT! CINDY will be interviewed by GERALDO this weekend!

http://www.foxnews.com/geraldo/

This will be repulsive. I can't stand him. Really. And that was even before he gave away troop locations.

WHAT? She can't go to court but she can go be on Geraldo.

We were talking earlier about why the funeral is being delayed. I think part of the reason may be that the A's want to stall as long as possible being re-questioned by investigators. Also they may fear arrests are coming, especially for Lee. But they know LE won't act before the funeral. JMO

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WHAT? She can't go to court but she can go be on Geraldo.

We were talking earlier about why the funeral is being delayed. I think part of the reason may be that the A's want to stall as long as possible being re-questioned by investigators. Also they may fear arrests are coming, especially for Lee. But they know LE won't act before the funeral. JMO

I think it says a lot when you'd rather see Geraldo Rivera than your daughter.

[One2Snoop]

To find out what he's so worked up about on that web page, just google "Gilbert A. Cabot" and "extortion".

Notice that the law firm that was involved in the litigation is based in Nashville, just like Press Corps Media...

I read somewhere else last night (can't remember where) that the fax number on a press release from Gil Cabot is the exact same fax number that Todd Black uses.

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I read somewhere else last night (can't remember where) that the fax number on a press release from Gil Cabot is the exact same fax number that Todd Black uses.

Yeah...and the number goes to a building that is full of lawyers, but none of the publicist companies, go figure. Weirder and weirder...

Is Cabot Casey's financial sponsor?

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I read somewhere else last night (can't remember where) that the fax number on a press release from Gil Cabot is the exact same fax number that Todd Black uses.

Is anyone connected to the A's in any way honest and above board? This is all ridiculous.

[Native Alien]

I read on one of the hearing recaps that Cindy was in court. But I sure didn't see her. I am wondering if she came in late with the attorney. Did anyone else read or see anything to that effect?

Here is the link to the article that says that Cindy was in court but on rereading it I am wondering if it wasn't just a misprint.


http://www.wftv.com/news/18601688/detail.html#-

Also I didn't hear the attorney ask for release of the remains. That must have been while there were technical problems and I was trying to find the hearing on TV.

I was hoping that we could get a transcript of that hearing but that isn't going to be likely I probably should go and watch it on replay and see what I can see.

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No one has exploited, sensationalized or profited from this case more the Nasty Nancy Grace. Her along with her BFF (con man, media *****) LP have turn this into a never ending, cliffhanger, sopa opera. The same videos, the same pictures over and over and over night after night. The LOST tapes that werent lost just unreleased. The secret jail house tapes that werent secret. What she eats, her clothes.
Tonight's bombshell---Casey used her left hand to wipe her butt.
Breaking news--Casey watched Judge Judy in the rec room
Amazing video of Casey sitting in a chair with her legs crossed and picking her nose.
Tuesday she gave that missing 6 year old balck child 30 seconds then back to the secret tapes for the 100th time. Oh and lets not forget " How beautyfull little John David and Lucy are" She going to exploit them also. I hope she treats them with more respect then she treats the talking head Lawyers she has on.
All this and she has the lowest rated show in cable news.
This is a circus and Nancy is the ringmaster.

Hey Kendu, I had no idea that NG was the lowest rated show! She's not much of a ringmaster is she? Yeah, she is nasty at times; was shocked that she womped on Mark Klaas the other night. *gasp* Is nothing sacred?

But she's been doing what she does forever, and watching the first ten, fifteen, or twenty minutes of her show is habit for me.

[lorettalockhorn]

I spent about an hour on google going in circles with the names Todd Black and Gil Cabot (Gilbert A. Cabot) There is a real Todd Black who is a successful Hollywood producer but the one working with Press Corp Media is not the same. Todd Black may be an ex-con named Gil Cabot connected to Press Corp Media and Arrested Media.

Story Brokers
P.O. Box 144
Hollywood, CA 90078-0144
Phone: (323) 549-9300
Contacts: G.A. Cabot, acquisitions and packaging; Crystal Gilmore, research and development
Biz: Acquires true-story properties and partners with actor-owned production companies for actors to star in or produce/direct.
Recent pics: "The George Jones Story," "The Laci Peterson Story, "Rock 'n' Roll 'n' More: The Little Richard Story"
Advice: Be brief and clear and understand that we only deal with true-story properties.

More about Gil Cabot: http://gilcabot.com/

I read some of that the other night. And there is a link somewhere that shows that the address for the Press Corps Media alias is the same address as a law firm; it had something to do with Chely Wright's (?) lawsuit against Gil Cabot. His site is interesting; all disclaimers about his not one, but two false convictions. hmmm

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Does it cross your mind that maybe Cindy is depressed and does not want to got anywhere. Thats how I would feel. She very likley saw KC on TV and I am sure she gets updates from JB and I would not be surprised if he is passing verbal messages back and forth. As for Lee, well I would stay as far away from the Liar as I could, look how she has screwed up his life and what she has done to the whole family.

NG would swim a river to get to court to see her kids because they are babies and have not done anything yet to sour her feelings. If they killed her grandbaby I think she would want to drowned them in a river. NG is so full of crap, I use to like her but my feelings are changing. She needs to just stay home with the Twins.

Of course it crossed my mind. I'll assume that she is probably on medication and in talk therapy to help her deal with not only the death of Caylee, but also the loss of her relationship with Casey, and her own feelings of guilt and/or negligence in what has transpired here.

I agree with NG that it is somewhat unusual for family, especially a family who actually supports the alleged murderer, to not be in court.

And I'm sure Cindy has been depressed since day one; but it didn't stop her from showing her arse to the media over and over. This is likely a control issue. God help me for believing something that LP said, but Cindy doesn't have control over the media right now, and her actions may reflect that.

Has it occurred to you that maybe NG would want to see justice for her theoretical grandchild?

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She is not at all convincing with the gushy mushy face. It's like she's on fast forward and clips the caller instantly with, "WHAT'S YOUR QUESTION?" I get the feeling she isn't comfortable with sharing the twins with the whole country and I wouldn't be either. It's vulnerable making stuff. Too many stalkers out there. Too many nutcases. How many talking heads have been murdered? Not good. Fame has its dangers. Remember John Lennon. :rose:

hehehe I love babies. Especially someone else's (at this point in life)! But I find it downright creepy that NG puts up pix of her kids in this day and age, and especially considering what she knows about how risky that is and how vulnerable all children are. It ain't fittin'. It ain't fittin'.

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Hey J!

I absolutely agree!!! She's foolish for displaying those cute dolls. I sure hope they have a lot of security!

I did laundry today. Patting me on the back. :D

LOL I FLOVE laundry! Well, the washing and drying and folding. Then it can just sit in the basket. But lemme tell you, I drove myself to the DDS yesterday. No valium, no nothin. All by myself. Can I hear an attagirl? (My father was way impressed.)

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Ah! Yes beem. I agree! I have such a hard time with those types of people. I want to understand. I study so hard on every site I can find about sociopaths. What to do with them? -- is the question. I see them as aliens. It has to be in the hard wiring. Not curable, I learned. They should not be allowed in society. History shows that some of the most famous leaders were sociopaths. We know Hitler was. King Henry the 8th was, and so many others.

This one (the liar) is currently costing us all so much sadness. Poor Caylee. She was such a beautiful little spirit. I can hear her asking her poppa if he was tired. Imagine a two year old picking up on that? She had compassion, so young. She would have grown up to be such a good woman. No wonder we want Casey Anthony to suffer and no wonder we make fun of her! Caindy and George need a beaten too. They could have stopped this from happening. They make me sick.

Let it rip!!!

So true. Gets to me every time. I've been conditioned like Pavlov's dog; every time that I hear those chords on NG right before the break, the tears well up, because I know those beautiful pix and videos are coming up.

[lorettalockhorn]

I read on one of the hearing recaps that Cindy was in court. But I sure didn't see her. I am wondering if she came in late with the attorney. Did anyone else read or see anything to that effect?

Here is the link to the article that says that Cindy was in court but on rereading it I am wondering if it wasn't just a misprint.


http://www.wftv.com/news/18601688/detail.html#-

Also I didn't hear the attorney ask for release of the remains. That must have been while there were technical problems and I was trying to find the hearing on TV.

I was hoping that we could get a transcript of that hearing but that isn't going to be likely I probably should go and watch it on replay and see what I can see.

Shouldn't that have read Cindy wasn't in court Friday? I mean, Conway even explained why she wasn't there; that she didn't want the media frenzy.

[Native Alien]

Shouldn't that have read Cindy wasn't in court Friday? I mean, Conway even explained why she wasn't there; that she didn't want the media frenzy.

That is exactly what I thought. So it isn't just me and it had to have been a misprint. Maybe they were thinking Casey and typed Cindy instead.

I went back and watched the tape of the court proceedings and that is what I got out of it. That Cindy wasn't there, and as far as I know, Lee could be back to work and so could Cindy now that the furor has died down some.

[javahog]

Ah, my Chicklets, super-sleuthing away, while I'm toiling away at work. I've missed you all, and your wonderfully sick, tongue in cheek comments about
boils, pustuales (sic),crotch rot, crabs and lice! Ewwwwwwww!

We must talk though......I do not know who this person Derek Clontz. I do not know how it came about that a tv station even picked up on this stuff....
but I will tell you this: after being in my biz 31 years, I can tell you there is absolutely NO WAY to wax, never mind a Brazilian, with scotch tape!!! No way, not happening, and BTW, since our ice princess has had it done before, she would also know to not even try. Duct tape is another story if the hair was trimmed down to at least 1/4 inch, and even that's iffy. Leave it to a guy to start a rumor like that.

Now, that boil. Had to laugh, I think it was Loretta who made a joke prior about giving Casey a blow up donut for court...only to find they had a pillow for her!!! That boil is quite possible, or how bout them hemmies, since her diet seems to contain a lot of stuff that might make one 'run' often.....HA!
They would not let her even have scotch tape (IDTS) because the sharp part can be used to hurt herself. I know she purchased a writing pad, but highly doubt she even has a pen or pencil since her psych observation, Caylee's remains being found, then George........

Lee should have been in court, if not with Cindy to show support. What does that tell us? I don't believe all that about 'the media' crap. She could have walked in 20 min late, while all the media was soaking up the info in court.

Baez was out of his element. It seemed the snickers and laughs went unnoticed by the defense, otherwise we would have heard Baez.."See your honor, they're making fun of me!!!!!"

Uh Huh :)

Don't you DARE take my Happy Place away! :no:That scotch tape Brazilian wax job is one of the best stories I have ever heard, and I insist on keeping it in the mythology of this case, lol! You couldn't pull a dog hair off the floor with scotch tape, I know, I know...

I know why her family was not there: they think she did it and she's mean to them to boot.

[javahog]

I forgot to ask you all about the lice ....HTH could she get lice if she's alone? She's not in contact with the general pop.......

:D Jose Baez DID hug her!

[javahog]

LMAO!! So Sorry java, it was definately a good read too!! You all posting and hoping she had crotch rot or a rash or .....whatever! Gave me a good laugh, and I needed it! You're right, let's leave it in! Now what about those BUGS?!
OH..........
Do you know when Geraldo's BOMBSHELL interview is on? We must watch the spin!

I think his website said 10 pm eastern time.

And I would have paid good money to see Casey look like Baron Harkonnen at that hearing. sigh.

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:D Jose Baez DID hug her!

I thought I told you to stop that. I just got soda up my nose. Bad girl.

[javahog]

I thought I told you to stop that. I just got soda up my nose. Bad girl.

I can't! These people are so inspirational!

[javahog]

[QUOTE=javahog;9159814]I think his website said 10 pm eastern time.

And I would have paid good money to see Casey look like Baron Harkonnen at that hearing. sigh.[/QUOTE

LOL!
I must admit, I was very satisfied to see her all pale looking with circles under her eyes. Is she finally understanding that her game is over? Is she finally understanding that she cannot lie her way out of this? I don't expect remorse, there was none.

At one point, Jose could not find his pen. She threw him hers, others thought it looked like she was playing with him, but he found his and brushed hers aside, almost as if to say "act serious". Otherwise, why even give her a pen and paper...What's she gonna write...her CONFESSION?

Loretta's theory:
Jose luvs Casey
Casey Anthony-Baez
Casey and Jose 4ever...

[lorettalockhorn]

[QUOTE=old_soul;9159818]

Loretta's theory:
Jose luvs Casey
Casey Anthony-Baez
Casey and Jose 4ever...


LMAO I forgot that one!

Casey=2kool4skool

[lorettalockhorn]

When I checked ou the link for Geraldo I saw the prior interviews he had with Baez. One was about them being able to get to the crime scene since the State had just finished there. Baez told him that 'his people' had wanted to see it the way it was before being 'run over' (my words). Since they weren't able to, he said it was then a moot point. So that was his excuse for not going over the crime scene Then.

Why make a motion NOW, all this time later, with environmental changes to the area? I'm trying to see where he's going with this, but I'd say he missed his opportunity for a questionable outcome. Anyone with ideas on this?

He can't even seem to put in the proper paperwork for his motions ~ he's better jump ship before it's too late!

The first thing that jumps into my mind, is to find a beer can with fingerprints on it, and try to nail Mr. X for the crime. But you're exactly right; when the scene was under official investigation, he and Lee and LBK paraded down there for a photo-op. When it was opened up, it was all sour grapes.

[lorettalockhorn]

NEWS ALERT! CINDY will be interviewed by GERALDO this weekend!

http://www.foxnews.com/geraldo/

This will be repulsive. I can't stand him. Really. And that was even before he gave away troop locations.

Do we know when this weekend?

I like Geraldo up until he had the butt fat transplant (about a minute and a half in):

http://www.foxnews.com/video2/video08.html?maven_referralObject=3469250&maven_referralPlaylistId=&sRevUrl=http://www.foxnews.com/geraldo/

You gotta love Joan Rivers. She's so nice to whoever she's talking to!!

[lorettalockhorn]

Beer can,cigarett butts, used condoms..hey it's all good ;) as long as it was sombody else, eh?

Righty O!

Doncha wonder who's going to survey the area? And hasn't it been pointed out that the defense doesn't have any experts on the witness list to testify to the flora and fauna findings? (Is there such a thing as a forensic garbage expert?)

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Watching NG, and boy does she give Cindy a pass on just about everything! But the panel is discussing the fact that Cindy didn't show up in court today; Nancy would swim a river to be there for one of the twins, and George gets a pass. Blah blah blah

What I don't get, is the same thing that I don't get about Casey. You would think that Cindy would want to see justice done for Caylee regardless of who killed her. And you would think that she would want to observe Casey's reactions, and just see her. Of course, you would think that Casey would want to take advantage of her right to face her accusers. And that doesn't seem to matter to her. If this whole circus is about The Other Side of the Story being told, why doesn't Casey want to see it all unfold?

And where was Lee? This family is baffling.

Almost painful to watch Baez stumbling and bumbling in front of the judge. Wouldn't you think that he would practice or something? And did he never try to get into the crime scene after it was released by the prosecution? Why is this just happening now?

I could not understand NG's position on Friday's show regarding Cindy not appearing at the hearing. She kept on saying that Cindy should be there to support her daughter. Nancy said if one of her children was on trial for murder, sheld go to every hearing and court date to support her child. What if John David had killed Lucy in a fit of jealousy? Nancy speaks from both sides of her mouth sometimes.

Gator

[lorettalockhorn]

I could not understand NG's position on Friday's show regarding Cindy not appearing at the hearing. She kept on saying that Cindy should be there to support her daughter. Nancy said if one of her children was on trial for murder, sheld go to every hearing and court date to support her child. What if John David had killed Lucy in a fit of jealousy? Nancy speaks from both sides of her mouth sometimes.

Gator

Well, G&C are on the record as supporting Casey. By not showing up at the hearing, it looks to me like they're doing a half-ass job of it. But of course, George gets a pass; bless his heart.

G&C seem to be the ones always talking out both sides of the mouth. Tell LE one thing and the world another.

[Woostock]

Old soul
You are soooo funny. I am sitting here laughing like hell....
This is the BEST board. Really smart people and very intuitive as well and we laugh every once in a while and it takes the edge off this very troubling case. On another note....Very troubling situation where one of our parents took her child to the bus stop and back at the ranch her baby cried and apparently pissed off dad who then proceded to beat the little child so badly he had to be life flighted to Children's hospital. Imagine the baby had the nerve to cry while dad was sleeping. Our whole faculty was in such a sad state we had all we good do not to cry all day...I had my son call one of the doctors there, actually someone who went to med school with him, who said the little baby will survive. Dad needs to go to prison for the rest of his life....IMO

[Gatordog]

[QUOTE=javahog;9159814]I think his website said 10 pm eastern time.

And I would have paid good money to see Casey look like Baron Harkonnen at that hearing. sigh.[/QUOTE

LOL!
I must admit, I was very satisfied to see her all pale looking with circles under her eyes. Is she finally understanding that her game is over? Is she finally understanding that she cannot lie her way out of this? I don't expect remorse, there was none.

At one point, Jose could not find his pen. She threw him hers, others thought it looked like she was playing with him, but he found his and brushed hers aside, almost as if to say "act serious". Otherwise, why even give her a pen and paper...What's she gonna write...her CONFESSION?


I guess she thought he'd rather use the BIC ballpoint that she held in her sweaty, itchy hands instead of his Montblanc pen. Afterall, she held that pen so it had to be so special to him. http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-basic/bleh.gif (http://www.freesmileys.org)

Gator

[Gatordog]

Cupcakes, you can send me a private message. Look at the top of the screen where it's wecoming you and click on Private Messages.

Gator

[Gatordog]

Reported this morning: Cindy Anthony has gone to see George in the hospital only one time. She has not been back to see him since the day he was admitted. http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-angry039.gif (http://www.freesmileys.org)

Gator

[Gatordog]

Let me just put my 2 cents in here and also ask a question. Now I am sure that NG has prety good security and a lot of people around her twins, but as a mother I would not want my children's pictures out there for everyone to see, including pedophiles and child molesters. I would be scared to death of kidnapping, either for ransom or by some sick, evil person. What do y'all think?

Here's my 2 cents http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-forum/2c.gif (http://www.freesmileys.org) I think you are absolutely right. I'd keep my children's identities as private as possible. Especially living in NYC.

Gator

[javahog]

Reported this morning: Cindy Anthony has gone to see George in the hospital only one time. She has not been back to see him since the day he was admitted. http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-angry039.gif (http://www.freesmileys.org)

Gator

Maybe he told her to beat feet...

[Gatordog]

Yeah. My avatar will soon disappear, as my hubby objected. And pretty much anyone could find NG if they really wanted to

Java, your old Avatar was adorable, but this one is very cute too.

Gator

[Gatordog]

ITA, beem.

I have to say it again. She destroyed her whole family. I think Casey had a brat attack the night she killed Caylee and she can't unring that bell. Consequence is not her strong point. She's a spoiled little girl. She wanted to delete what ever her mother needed/loved because she was mad. (and I use that term lightly.)

This is inhumane that's true. No part of me understands why Caylee's remains are not put to rest. I have a lot of theories but no answers. Maybe the mental and emotional condition of the family members is delaying it? :shrug:

At this point, The Liar has custody of Caylee's remains. She had no trouble dropping them off like trash so it seems to me she sees no reason why a funeral is even necessary.

I thought it was just disgusting in court yesterday when Mark Nejame was talking about the search for Caylee's body and talking of the bones, they showed the Liar and she was smiling and trying to talk to Baez.

Gator

[javahog]

Java, your old Avatar was adorable, but this one is very cute too.

Gator

thanks, that's begging for Thanksgiving dinner under the kitchen door

[javahog]

At this point, The Liar has custody of Caylee's remains. She had no trouble dropping them off like trash so it seems to me she sees no reason why a funeral is even necessary.

I thought it was just disgusting in court yesterday when Mark Nejame was talking about the search for Caylee's body and talking of the bones, they showed the Liar and she was smiling and trying to talk to Baez.

Gator

mindboggling

[javahog]

Maybe he does deserve that. Maybe he would rather have it that way?

Pffft, and here I was thinking Cindy was going to see him and getting some counseling. Slap me, I'm a dreamer! She's going to end up right where he is.

I hope George recovers from all of this, leaves, moves to another state, rallies for murdered children like Klass did, and finds a nice woman who will love and support him forever. That's what I hope. Yep! Stranger things have happened.

And maybe if Lee can avoid any form of prosecution, he can provide more grandchildren someday. By all accounts he was a very loving grandpa. I heard the Enquirer is reporting he recognized the sticker and that's what pushed him over the edge.

[javahog]

[/B]

I'm confused Jav. What I remember about that first day he was in the hospital, from his own lawyer (remember the press conference?) who said George had not heard about the sticky heart. Hrmmm, what to believe. Do you think he deliberately denied that Geroge heard about it because it may have looked like he was out of denial and that may have looked bad for Casey? Am I making sense?

I know, I heard him say that too. I don't believe it. I'm not saying the lawyer is lying, though. I think that as former LE, there is no way George wouldn't go out there with us online and see what the evidence was when the doc dump was done. George knew what stickers Caylee had. He wouldn't let Cindy know, and by extension Conway. Remember when he told the cops they had to tell him everything first so he could protect Cindy, it would "kill her"? He was still doing that, imo, but found out stuff he couldn't handle. NO WAY the timing of this was a coincidence, imo...

[Gatordog]

Gator I'm smiling at your little guy there for the longest time. Suddenly I burst out laughing! LOL!!!

Yeah, my little guy likes to talk with his hands too. I hope that Poppa appreciates us for putting you in a good mood and making you laugh. ;)

Gator

[lorettalockhorn]

Java said 10 (est) tonite. I checked the listing but it doesn't say who the guest is. I don't think he's on Sundays.

I used to like him, when he came on the scene, he was one of the first real investigative reporters who didn't mind the controversy. Loved when the skinheads gave him a beatin! He wanted to be controversial ( Capone's vault hehehe). I lost respect for him when he publicly talked about knocking boots with Bette Midler and talked her down " I didn't know what I was thinking"..

That's a NO NO. Oh, she was good enough for you when you were a 'nobody', then later on you have the ba**s to make fun of her? Asswipe, look at yourself, cause what you're saying was that she was all you could GET!!

Haven't seen the butt video! I must look at that one! :D

So, Baez doen't even have the Forensic Botanist/Specialist on the witness list! How Come, Jose??????? Duh!!

Thanks OS for the heads up about tonight. So here Larry King was so benign and let G&C get away with their cock and bull, and she throws him over for Geraldo. And can't go to court, but will be on Faux News. What? The crowd outside the courthouse isn't large enough?

[Gatordog]

I know, I heard him say that too. I don't believe it. I'm not saying the lawyer is lying, though. I think that as former LE, there is no way George wouldn't go out there with us online and see what the evidence was when the doc dump was done. George knew what stickers Caylee had. He wouldn't let Cindy know, and by extension Conway. Remember when he told the cops they had to tell him everything first so he could protect Cindy, it would "kill her"? He was still doing that, imo, but found out stuff he couldn't handle. NO WAY the timing of this was a coincidence, imo...

Remember this is the Casy Anthony family and entourage = if their lips are moving - doubt what they're saying. :rolleyes:

Gator

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Oh Man.....just when you feel kinda forgiving. Wham. Poor George, he doesn't deserve that.


Please will you all meet me at our dicussion thread..I have something for you. :biggrin:

This could be on doctor's advice. Maybe they feel he needs some space and some time away from her or he may not WANT to see her or she may not want to see him. Who knows? She's not too worried. She went jetting off to CA.

[lorettalockhorn]

Old soul
You are soooo funny. I am sitting here laughing like hell....
This is the BEST board. Really smart people and very intuitive as well and we laugh every once in a while and it takes the edge off this very troubling case. On another note....Very troubling situation where one of our parents took her child to the bus stop and back at the ranch her baby cried and apparently pissed off dad who then proceded to beat the little child so badly he had to be life flighted to Children's hospital. Imagine the baby had the nerve to cry while dad was sleeping. Our whole faculty was in such a sad state we had all we good do not to cry all day...I had my son call one of the doctors there, actually someone who went to med school with him, who said the little baby will survive. Dad needs to go to prison for the rest of his life....IMO

Poor little one. This violence against women, children and babies happens far too often. Just has to stop. Godspeed

[Gatordog]

I haven't seen Lie To Me yet though you all made me very interested in seeing it. My DD told me about last weeks episodes so I went online to the trailor and saw parts that I really enjoyed. After seeing some of the obvious signs of lying, I went to Casey Anthony's jail house visiting videos and watched her face. WOW!! I know her lies are more than obvious but I was fascinated with the facial expressions and how they work against her.

Now I'm a body language expert. yesterday I was a scientist and tomorrow, who knows? Thanks for putting up with me. Have a hagnog friends. :beer:

First a jello shot and now a hagnog. My head will be spinning. http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-eatdrink043.gif (http://www.freesmileys.org) They said that touching the neck is a sign of deception. Sure enough on NG they showed a clip of the liar in jail talking to her parents and she's just about giving her neck a massage.

Gator

[lorettalockhorn]

I guess she thought he'd rather use the BIC ballpoint that she held in her sweaty, itchy hands instead of his Montblanc pen. Afterall, she held that pen so it had to be so special to him. http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-basic/bleh.gif (http://www.freesmileys.org)

Gator

If Bozo has a Montblanc pen I'm guessing it was a gift. From his drop dead gorgeous wife maybe. I mean does he have any clients? Kinda hard to tell from his website.

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And maybe if Lee can avoid any form of prosecution, he can provide more grandchildren someday. By all accounts he was a very loving grandpa. I heard the Enquirer is reporting he recognized the sticker and that's what pushed him over the edge.

Oh, my goodness, I hope that's not true. How heart-breaking that would be. If I were guessing, I would guess that George is glad to be away from Cindy for awhile. He needed the break from her trying to convince him Casey is innocent.

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Yes J, he was there and he did that. Judge said, yes to that.

I am glad to hear that. I was wondering. Everyone keeps talking about how Casey has custody of the remains and will hold out forever. I honestly believe they are stalling because none of the A's want to talk to LE.

This was not mentioned at all on JVM or NG.

[Justice Denied?]

I haven't seen Lie To Me yet though you all made me very interested in seeing it. My DD told me about last weeks episodes so I went online to the trailor and saw parts that I really enjoyed. After seeing some of the obvious signs of lying, I went to Casey Anthony's jail house visiting videos and watched her face. WOW!! I know her lies are more than obvious but I was fascinated with the facial expressions and how they work against her.

Now I'm a body language expert. yesterday I was a scientist and tomorrow, who knows? Thanks for putting up with me. Have a hagnog friends. :beer:

We're all still drinking Jello shots from the "everything else site. Maybe later, OK? :beer: Run over and grab yourself one!

[Gatordog]

:-) For Sara.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yeSP5cvnZIw

She starts the song with Bryant Gumble says they're fighting in Lebanon and the economy is bad....not much has changed in all these years. We just go around in circles. :shrug:

Gator

[Gatordog]

I am glad to hear that. I was wondering. Everyone keeps talking about how Casey has custody of the remains and will hold out forever. I honestly believe they are stalling because none of the A's want to talk to LE.

This was not mentioned at all on JVM or NG.

Yes, and they've put off John Morgan's deposition for five weeks now.

Gator

[Gatordog]

I read her first book titled: Enter Talking. It was about her young life. Big Daddy issues. She made it through. I love her!

Her daddy was a doctor in Brooklyn and saved my mother's life when all other doctors gave up hope. This was before I was born. I thank Dr. Molinsky.

Gator

[javahog]

I am glad to hear that. I was wondering. Everyone keeps talking about how Casey has custody of the remains and will hold out forever. I honestly believe they are stalling because none of the A's want to talk to LE.

This was not mentioned at all on JVM or NG.

It is so confusing: Conway still says they can't schedule a memorial until the remains are released. Did the judge give a time to release them? How can he do that without a separate hearing, unless Casey said yes at this hearing? And her fugly clothes at the hearing? Baez says Cindy provided them. Conway says Baez provided them. wth?

They're all nuts...

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/orl-bk-caylee-anthony-funeral,0,6665378.story

[lorettalockhorn]

Tuned in to Geraldo about thirty seconds late, but didn't hear anything about Cindy in his introduction. It's political stuff right now. http://i32.tinypic.com/s4xdna.jpg

[javahog]

Tuned in to Geraldo about thirty seconds late, but didn't hear anything about Cindy in his introduction. It's political stuff right now. http://i32.tinypic.com/s4xdna.jpg

Oooh, please keep us updated...my husband and son have hijacked the tv to watch Doctor Who. I have no rights!

[lorettalockhorn]

It is so confusing: Conway still says they can't schedule a memorial until the remains are released. Did the judge give a time to release them? How can he do that without a separate hearing, unless Casey said yes at this hearing? And her fugly clothes at the hearing? Baez says Cindy provided them. Conway says Baez provided them. wth?

They're all nuts...

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/orl-bk-caylee-anthony-funeral,0,6665378.story

Of course they're all nucking futs!! It's all deflection. Instead of hunkering down and working on the case, they play these games.

(BTW I couldn't make heads or tails of whatever it was that Conway was saying to Strickland on Friday. I wondered if he wasn't on medication himself.)

[lorettalockhorn]

Oooh, please keep us updated...my husband and son have hijacked the tv to watch Doctor Who. I have no rights!

HAH! I've already switched and am waiting for Are You Being Served! :hat:

(Just took a peek and it's still the economic stimulus package debate. At least Geraldo has genius Ben Stein in this segment!)

[javahog]

Of course they're all nucking futs!! It's all deflection. Instead of hunkering down and working on the case, they play these games.

(BTW I couldn't make heads or tails of whatever it was that Conway was saying to Strickland on Friday. I wondered if he wasn't on medication himself.)

I still haven't seen it. I paused it and then the video player went nuts on me and skipped to the end or the beginning. I couldn't handle watching the first 0 minutes again, so...

[javahog]

HAH! I've already switched and am waiting for Are You Being Served! :hat:

(Just took a peek and it's still the economic stimulus package debate. At least Geraldo has genius Ben Stein in this segment!)

save us, ben! and your response has driven me to ws, dadgum it!

[lorettalockhorn]

Oooh, please keep us updated...my husband and son have hijacked the tv to watch Doctor Who. I have no rights!

Just happened to click back onto Geraldo and he has Baez and Kinney-Baden on. He has asked them about Casey's reported inappropriate behavior(referring to her smiling etc). I'll come back with a recap. (Y'all know I'm slow, right?)

[javahog]

Just happened to click back onto Geraldo and he has Baez and Kinney-Baden on. He has asked them about Casey's reported inappropriate behavior(referring to her smiling etc). I'll come back with a recap. (Y'all know I'm slow, right?)

I followed the play by play elsewhere, and there was no Cindy! Is she the Vault of the new millenium for Geraldo?! Unless she'll be on opposite the SuperBowl?! Good grief. Apparently everything was just JB whining and saying that Casey was smiling a lot because she was happy to see her defense team.

Geraldo ****okay, I self-edited that. urgh.

[lorettalockhorn]

Jose doesn't understand the criticism, he thinks it's just people expressing their expressions of her. She smiled at the legal defense team. What? Is she supposed to be unhappy to see them? They are the only people fighting for her. It's unrealistic for people to think she would look mad at her attorneys. It's ridiculous.

Baden thinks it's ridic too. They want her to show emotion. She does have emotion. The big smile was for Baden; they had only met for the first time the day before. Casey can't win. People are out to get her. She's micro-analyzed.

Baez on the change of venue; they're looking for a place where there is less chance of a tainted jury from coverage. Everyone in Orlando knows Casey and him and LKB and every detail of the case. Geraldo asks about Miami, but Jose won't get specific because the media will populate that area with stories.

Discovery & release of information: Baden says the latest information came from the defense reading People magazine. She's talking about the duct tape information coming from a police source. They are getting discovery from the court, but they are getting leaks in the media that is not necessarily the truth.

The motion for recusal: Baez feels justified in laying a record.

[lorettalockhorn]

Baez stumbled and stuttered and muttered throughout. And he and LKB seem to truly believe what they are saying. They take themselves very seriously despite the fact that they sound like fidiots.

I'm sad for LKB.

[javahog]

Jose doesn't understand the criticism, he thinks it's just people expressing their expressions of her. She smiled at the legal defense team. What? Is she supposed to be unhappy to see them? They are the only people fighting for her. It's unrealistic for people to think she would look mad at her attorneys. It's ridiculous.

Baden thinks it's ridic too. They want her to show emotion. She does have emotion. The big smile was for Baden; they had only met for the first time the day before. Casey can't win. People are out to get her. She's micro-analyzed.

Baez on the change of venue; they're looking for a place where there is less chance of a tainted jury from coverage. Everyone in Orlando knows Casey and him and LKB and every detail of the case. Geraldo asks about Miami, but Jose won't get specific because the media will populate that area with stories.

Discovery & release of information: Baden says the latest information came from the defense reading People magazine. She's talking about the duct tape information coming from a police source. They are getting discovery from the court, but they are getting leaks in the media that is not necessarily the truth.

The motion for recusal: Baez feels justified in laying a record.

Baez needs to go chase a Waaaah-mbulance

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Jose doesn't understand the criticism, he thinks it's just people expressing their expressions of her. She smiled at the legal defense team. What? Is she supposed to be unhappy to see them? They are the only people fighting for her. It's unrealistic for people to think she would look mad at her attorneys. It's ridiculous.

Baden thinks it's ridic too. They want her to show emotion. She does have emotion. The big smile was for Baden; they had only met for the first time the day before. Casey can't win. People are out to get her. She's micro-analyzed.

Baez on the change of venue; they're looking for a place where there is less chance of a tainted jury from coverage. Everyone in Orlando knows Casey and him and LKB and every detail of the case. Geraldo asks about Miami, but Jose won't get specific because the media will populate that area with stories.

Discovery & release of information: Baden says the latest information came from the defense reading People magazine. She's talking about the duct tape information coming from a police source. They are getting discovery from the court, but they are getting leaks in the media that is not necessarily the truth.

The motion for recusal: Baez feels justified in laying a record.

Geraldo said in his intro of Baez and Baden that he felt it was "unfair" for the judge to require Casey's presence after she signed the waiver with Baez's knowledge.

[javahog]

Geraldo said in his intro of Baez and Baden that he felt it was "unfair" for the judge to require Casey's presence after she signed the waiver with Baez's knowledge.

Heaven forbid a defendant participate in their own defense. Maybe JB is afraid she might do something stupid like toss a pen flirtaciously at him in court. Ooops, too late.

[javahog]

Geraldo...Al Capone's Vault. The miners are alive. Exclusive sit down with Cindy Anthony.

Right.

[javahog]

Yes that would just be apalling eh? I saw that stupid antic she pulled although i am luving that she did it. Looked like a school girl in math class. Speaks volumes as to her emotions. Helloooo this is about you going down for the murder of your daughter. I am so happy she was happy to see her defense team. Are they not the only people she does see. I hate defense spin:cuss:

I'm really irked right now. Geraldo said Cindy. It is still on his page, this weekend it says. He doesn't even plug it? Is this a load of http://planetsmilies.net/animal-smiley-4960.gif (http://planetsmilies.net) ?

[lorettalockhorn]

Heaven forbid a defendant participate in their own defense. Maybe JB is afraid she might do something stupid like toss a pen flirtaciously at him in court. Ooops, too late.

I'm telling you, if she was to get away without exercising her right to confront testimony against her, she would be eligible for the ineffective counsel (my attorney is a Baeztard) plea on appeal. I thought that she wanted to tell The Other Half of the Story?!?!

So what about Jose's comment about the defense team being the only ones fighting for her? Don't they watch TV? Don't they know that G&C support Casey?/

[javahog]

I'm telling you, if she was to get away without exercising her right to confront testimony against her, she would be eligible for the ineffective counsel (my attorney is a Baeztard) plea on appeal. I thought that she wanted to tell The Other Half of the Story?!?!

So what about Jose's comment about the defense team being the only ones fighting for her? Don't they watch TV? Don't they know that G&C support Casey?/

Sounds like he's trying to isolate her to me. No visits (if that's true), not wanting her in court, it's just you and me against the world, baby...

[javahog]

Now that was dam azzzz funny :biggrin: I cant see any lawyer representing G&C letting Cindy anywhere near a camera without saying if ya go spouting off publicly i am outa here. That interview would be a mess. I think maybe at this point they are publicly supporting Liar but privately coming to grips slowly. So if i understand correctly Caylee's remains are turned over to the A's? So if C is in charge basically right now since G is hospitalized is she delaying things to delay LE coming after them with questions or possible charges for Lee? Seems to me that G would/needs to get on with the burial. He is probably heavily medicated right now so we have C back in the driver's seat? That's not a good thing. MOO

Conway says they don't have the remains. I don't know what's going on with that...does anyone have the quote from the judge related to the remains? I cannot find a transcript...

[Amy]

LOL Well, the judge can take away her Scotch tape priveleges, by golly!

I do like the way that Morgan has Casey boxed in; she's has said before that Morgan's ZG isn't THE ZG. But she is duty bound to give information about the Sawgrass connection and the children's names. I like that. I also like that Morgan is asking her to qualify the information that she has about the "more than twenty Zenaida Gonzalezes".

I also like it that the unknown Zenaida Fernandez Gonzalez doesn't appear. That sounds like an admission to me that Baez knows that she doesn't exist.

What DID happen to that pesky ol' pic of the Nanny w/Caylee? I'm guessing it was D Casey who was off to get it from the fellow they tracked down. I can't wait for him to produce that pic in court!!! Maybe he ought to consider using it in this civil case--to show exactly which Zenaida Casey was referring to!!!!

[Amy]

Talk on NG about Press Corps Media and Todd Black's real/legal name. Has there been any more information about that today? Why the secrecy? Is it just another example of what a chit magnet this case is?

I wonder, if they took a poll of media corporations (or whatever this type of thing would be called) how many of THOSE organizations would say all their PR people use abreviated/fake names in the line of duty? Probably zero. This is probably the only organization that does. Wonder how many other organizations are going to think, hey, this is a GOOD idea!!! We'll start having all our PR persons make up names!!!

I wonder, is this the only case he will use the name Todd Black on? Use a different name with each case? :shrug:

[Amy]

Anthony attorney: No date set for Caylee Marie Anthony memorial

Susan Jacobson | Sentinel Staff Writer
8:12 PM EST, January 30, 2009

For a few moments on Friday, it seemed that a memorial service for slain Orange County toddler Caylee Marie Anthony was about to happen and that the little girl whose disappearance has captivated the country would finally be put to rest.

Not so.

An attorney representing Caylee's grandparents, George and Cindy Anthony, said a press release issued by First Baptist Orlando incorrectly stated that a public memorial service would be held Feb. 10 at the 5,000-seat church on John Young Parkway.

"Until her remains are released, we cannot set a definite date," attorney Brad Conway said Friday night.

Moments earlier, a church spokesman told the Orlando Sentinel that the Anthonys had sanctioned the service after attending the church at Christmastime.

The release quoted senior pastor David Uth as saying, "As a church, we want to provide hope, healing and the opportunity to experience God's love. We believe that hosting the service will give us the opportunity to minister to a family in need and to a community that is hurting because of the loss of this precious child."

Conway said he would straighten out the misunderstanding with church officials.

Check back for updates.

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/orl-bk-caylee-anthony-funeral,0,6665378.story

Gotta feel sorry for pastor David Uth. He probably WAS told by the A's, or even by Conway that the service would take place on Feb 10. Then to have the attorney say--not so. This is the 3rd thing that has been reported as being said by the attorney, just for him to say--not so. Didn't say that. Methinks he is a cagey little liar. Tells the reporters (or pastor) things, then says he didn't.

[javahog]

I wonder, if they took a poll of media corporations (or whatever this type of thing would be called) how many of THOSE organizations would say all their PR people use abreviated/fake names in the line of duty? Probably zero. This is probably the only organization that does. Wonder how many other organizations are going to think, hey, this is a GOOD idea!!! We'll start having all our PR persons make up names!!!

I wonder, is this the only case he will use the name Todd Black on? Use a different name with each case? :shrug:

There is something so wonky about PCM, "Todd Black" and Jose Baez that if it all comes out...first PCM works for Jose, then an anonymous benefactor, then there is no Todd Black, now people are tracing stuff to non-current companies etc. so bizarre!

[Amy]

I'm a little bit behind, and I don't know if the transcripts are up yet, but did I also hear on NG, that Todd Black may be Jose Baez? I am confused. :shrug: I agree this case is a chit magnet. I appreciate LKB insuring that the liar is afforded a fair trial, but we have many excellent lawyers in the South that could have done the same at the hearing today. jmo

I don't know if it was said on NG, but I said that the other day--bet there isn't a Press Corp whatever, and that Todd Black (who is never seen with Jose, never talks on the phone when Jose is in the picture, etc) is Jose himself. I wonder if the head of the Press thing (Mr Tally or someone) is Jose himself. I wonder if the secretary they reached was Jose himself, talking in falsetto.

Who the heck is going to want to hire a PR company that sounds so freakin' shady? Well, shady characters, I guess. Anyway, this PR company sounds as real as Zanny the nanny. IMO

[javahog]

Gotta feel sorry for pastor David Uth. He probably WAS told by the A's, or even by Conway that the service would take place on Feb 10. Then to have the attorney say--not so. This is the 3rd thing that has been reported as being said by the attorney, just for him to say--not so. Didn't say that. Methinks he is a cagey little liar. Tells the reporters (or pastor) things, then says he didn't.

They probably set a date when it was said the remains would be released, and then they weren't...there's really no good in it for Conway to have lied to the pastor...?

[Justice Denied?]

I'm telling you, if she was to get away without exercising her right to confront testimony against her, she would be eligible for the ineffective counsel (my attorney is a Baeztard) plea on appeal. I thought that she wanted to tell The Other Half of the Story?!?!

So what about Jose's comment about the defense team being the only ones fighting for her? Don't they watch TV? Don't they know that G&C support Casey?/

OOOPS! Well, that tells you something right there.

[lighthousedazy]

There is something so wonky about PCM, "Todd Black" and Jose Baez that if it all comes out...first PCM works for Jose, then an anonymous benefactor, then there is no Todd Black, now people are tracing stuff to non-current companies etc. so bizarre!I wonder if the Better Business Bureau keeps tabs on these shenanigans or if they stay under the radar. :confused: I agree, it is very bizarre.

[javahog]

It makes me so sad that Caylee seems to be forgotten in all the mess. When is her burial ever going to be the priority it should be. :rose:

If she was forgotten there wouldn't be this mess. Everyone is doing their thing for her: the prosecution is trying to get her justice, her grandfather is mourning her terribly, and we are complaining about her mother. We all have our role!

[Justice Denied?]

Gotta feel sorry for pastor David Uth. He probably WAS told by the A's, or even by Conway that the service would take place on Feb 10. Then to have the attorney say--not so. This is the 3rd thing that has been reported as being said by the attorney, just for him to say--not so. Didn't say that. Methinks he is a cagey little liar. Tells the reporters (or pastor) things, then says he didn't.

WTH? The judge released the remains to the Anthonys and the FRI NIGHT, Conway says they can't schedule a service until the remains are released? This case has me convinced they all live in OZ. We sure as Heck aren't in Kansas any more. Who would establish a fake PR firm? For what?

[Amy]

Haven't read it yet, but here's the NG transcript:

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0901/30/ng.01.html

It seems like back when Todd Black made his big faux pas about Caylee being dead, that there were some connections made to the Baez Law Firm, but sheesh who knows?

I would SWEAR that, in the beginning, Jose was referring Todd Black as the spokesperson for the Baez law firm. I do think he even emphasized it was for THE FIRM, not a spokesperson for Casey Anthony.

That being said, when Todd Black made the statement about a dead Caylee, Jose NEVER ONCE said, this guy doesn't work for me, doesn't work for my firm. What he said AT THE TIME was, that Todd Black did not sit in on their conferences to get information to put out. Which was a rather stupid comment. We have a pr firm, but we don't let them know what to pr about!!!!

[Amy]

Does it cross your mind that maybe Cindy is depressed and does not want to got anywhere. Thats how I would feel. She very likley saw KC on TV and I am sure she gets updates from JB and I would not be surprised if he is passing verbal messages back and forth. As for Lee, well I would stay as far away from the Liar as I could, look how she has screwed up his life and what she has done to the whole family.

NG would swim a river to get to court to see her kids because they are babies and have not done anything yet to sour her feelings. If they killed her grandbaby I think she would want to drowned them in a river. NG is so full of crap, I use to like her but my feelings are changing. She needs to just stay home with the Twins.

I was thinking, maybe GEORGE needed some support during the hearing--not that he necessarily watched it, but knowing it was going on @ the time. Maybe, since Casey has Jose and LKB right there w/her, Cindy tho't her place was best to be w/her husband. Lord knows they will need to work on and foster their relationship to support each other, cuz they still have the trial to get thru, and the rest of their lives without Caylee and without Casey.

When Nancy was bouncing to each next TH, NOT THE ANSWER I AM LOOKING FOR!!!!! Marc Klaas--and Mark DOES get enough out to say that he was not in the same convoluted (paraphrased) situation as the A's are in.

[javahog]

WTH? The judge released the remains to the Anthonys and the FRI NIGHT, Conway says they can't schedule a service until the remains are released? This case has me convinced they all live in OZ. We sure as Heck aren't in Kansas any more. Who would establish a fake PR firm? For what?

Many who have been on the hunt say that there is a link between "Todd Black" and a person/firm that licenses "real life" stories for tv production (could that be where the money is coming from?). (Go back a couple of pages for some stuff)

[lorettalockhorn]

I wonder if the Better Business Bureau keeps tabs on these shenanigans or if they stay under the radar. :confused: I agree, it is very bizarre.

I looked up Press Corps Media at the Tennessee Secretary of State website, and the license (or whatever) had expired some time ago. :shrug:

[lorettalockhorn]

I was thinking, maybe GEORGE needed some support during the hearing--not that he necessarily watched it, but knowing it was going on @ the time. Maybe, since Casey has Jose and LKB right there w/her, Cindy tho't her place was best to be w/her husband. Lord knows they will need to work on and foster their relationship to support each other, cuz they still have the trial to get thru, and the rest of their lives without Caylee and without Casey.

When Nancy was bouncing to each next TH, NOT THE ANSWER I AM LOOKING FOR!!!!! Marc Klaas--and Mark DOES get enough out to say that he was not in the same convoluted (paraphrased) situation as the A's are in.

We read earlier (a couple of pages back) that Cindy has only visited George that one time. Honestly, if she's not in some sort of counseling, I think he's better off not seeing her until he is strong(er).

[javahog]

I looked up Press Corps Media at the Tennessee Secretary of State website, and the license (or whatever) had expired some time ago. :shrug:

The business is defunct, "Todd Black" is a pseudonym, they are spokespersons for the Baez firm, they are not spokespersons for the Baez law firm, their reverse phone lookup takes you to a building full of lawyers but apparently no pr firm... :shrug:

[lighthousedazy]

Yes that would just be apalling eh? I saw that stupid antic she pulled although i am luving that she did it. Looked like a school girl in math class. Speaks volumes as to her emotions. Helloooo this is about you going down for the murder of your daughter. I am so happy she was happy to see her defense team. Are they not the only people she does see. I hate defense spin:cuss:
Oh my goodness. I just thought maybe they want her to appear as this airhead, no emotions, possibly get across the idea that maybe she doesn't feel, doesn't know right from wrong. No, that's not gonna jive; people are not that stupid, Jose and LKB. :no:

[lorettalockhorn]

HaHaHa. We just got screwed!!!!!!!!!!!Yep, we got the old 'Capone Vault'!!
We Did! We Did! Told ya I didn't like him anymore :tongue:!

My puter cut me off before so I couldn't post....s'ok I just enjoyed some of those jello shots, and now I'm feeling my oats! How dare Geraldo start out saying it's not fair that Casey not be allowed to stay in her dorm room! Since he was never a working atty :rolleyes:, I guess he doesn't understand why Strickland demanded she be there, huh? Quite obviously said to soothe over his bud Baez's ego..........Keep strokin, Geraldo........you'll get an exclusive ~ later.
Well, he pulled our chains, huh? LMAO

And just where was the Yours + Mine????

[Amy]

I like Klass. NG made him edit his first statement last night. (She's such a witch.) He completely understood George's actions. And he was right on with his answer when she asked if he would be in court to support his daughter. He said yes. Then he said, "I don't come from that kind of dysfunction so it wouldn't happen to me." (Paraphrased) That's the general consensus in the opinions of the people. It's hard to answer to the Anthony's decisions because they are not the average American family type people.

NG was trying to get someone to say that the Anthony's believe the liar killed Caylee but no one would. (OR COULD) Amy I need your memory. Who is the talking head attorney from NY. I like him.

Amy is the Memory Keeper's Daughter :seeya:

If you're talking to me, Amy, I'm not all that good w/names except when I am typing during the show. I go more on description--the bald guy is a former policeman, the show's law analyst Mike somebody or other (just figured that out the other day, I tho't he was a local reporter, lol.)

[lorettalockhorn]

The business is defunct, "Todd Black" is a pseudonym, they are spokespersons for the Baez firm, they are not spokespersons for the Baez law firm, their reverse phone lookup takes you to a building full of lawyers but apparently no pr firm... :shrug:

Yeah, I did the lookup using the phone number off Todd Black's fax sheet.

[Amy]

She is not at all convincing with the gushy mushy face. It's like she's on fast forward and clips the caller instantly with, "WHAT'S YOUR QUESTION?" I get the feeling she isn't comfortable with sharing the twins with the whole country and I wouldn't be either. It's vulnerable making stuff. Too many stalkers out there. Too many nutcases. How many talking heads have been murdered? Not good. Fame has its dangers. Remember John Lennon. :rose:

IMO, if she wasn't comfortable sharing the twins with the whole country, she wouldn't do it. She is the one who made it a big deal. If she weren't showing the pics, talking about them all the time, no one would think to ask about them or compliment her on them. She would have come back on the show after maternity leave, when someone asked about the twins, she could have answered just fine. After a week or so, and no major response, the questions etc would have stopped. But, that is just my take.

[lighthousedazy]

I so agree loretta. She may be a huge stressor for him. I have a feeling they are more than miles apart right now on alot of things. MOOI agree. I think if George went back into that house to soon, he would probably have the same depression and suicidal thoughts. He does not need Cindy's badgering and belittleling. This is going to take a mountain of therapy for G and Cindy should be getting therapy also. She needs it as much as George does if not more. imo

[Amy]

Okay, I'm on a rant today!

How come Casey Anthony, or anyone else with money, has an easier time in jail than people who are broke?! The system is broken, d**n it! Casey sits there with her "treats" while some poor woman has chapped lips and dry skin! Equal treatment for all!!! Not special treatment based on ability to PAY!!!

And as for the monies paying for programs? What programs, art therapy classes? Give me a break! Cut off the commissary! I'm going to go research if there are these wealth based jail programs here now...

Well, java, you have a point there!!! I have an idea. Kind of based on the redistribute the wealth thing. So, when family, friends, rich benefactors or concerned citizens all over the world send Casey or any other prisoner commissary money, that money should be put in one big pile, and an equal amount divied out to each and every prisoner!!!! Sounds right, huh? Then, EVERYONE would get their chance @ the pork rinds and soothing body lotion!!!!!

[Amy]

[/B]

Amy, are you keeping my memory? I seem to have lost it somewhere!:D:biggrin::D

I don't think the memory box is working too well today. All day today, I called the xray fellow Willie. Late in the afternoon I see this fellow in xray, and I'm thinking WHAT is HIS NAME? Oh, THAT was Willie!!!! Poor Mike, didn't say a word to me about being called Willie!!!! I'll probably hear about it tomorrow--when he starts calling me Wilma!!! lol

I think I'm going to try to write down the names of the th's, it will take a while, cuz she belts their names out so fast. THen, I can line up a name with a place and occupation--like, I DO have it down LEONARD PADILLA, BOUNTY HUNTER OUT OF SACRAMENTO. And NATASHA (sorry forget her last name, lol) THIS SHOW'S PRODUCER REPORTING IN ORLANDO. Of course, I can remember Tim Miller and Marc Klass pretty much without the introduction.

[Amy]

I am sure he is covering because Casey won't release her.

I waffle back on forth on this issue, too. Some days I think it's probably Casey who isn't releasing, just because she can (not release) or to hurt her parents, or to keep the issue in the headlines. Other days, I think Baez is probably feeding Casey some story about why she can't release the remains, speaking in double gobbedly-gook legalese, because it keeps HIM in the news, on days the focus is somewhere else.

[Amy]

LOL I FLOVE laundry! Well, the washing and drying and folding. Then it can just sit in the basket. But lemme tell you, I drove myself to the DDS yesterday. No valium, no nothin. All by myself. Can I hear an attagirl? (My father was way impressed.)

You are the woman!!!!!!

[Amy]

Shouldn't that have read Cindy wasn't in court Friday? I mean, Conway even explained why she wasn't there; that she didn't want the media frenzy.

That sounds more like it. It doesn't make sense the other way.

[Amy]

Old soul
You are soooo funny. I am sitting here laughing like hell....
This is the BEST board. Really smart people and very intuitive as well and we laugh every once in a while and it takes the edge off this very troubling case. On another note....Very troubling situation where one of our parents took her child to the bus stop and back at the ranch her baby cried and apparently pissed off dad who then proceded to beat the little child so badly he had to be life flighted to Children's hospital. Imagine the baby had the nerve to cry while dad was sleeping. Our whole faculty was in such a sad state we had all we good do not to cry all day...I had my son call one of the doctors there, actually someone who went to med school with him, who said the little baby will survive. Dad needs to go to prison for the rest of his life....IMO

Fortunately the baby will survive, let's hope in a healthy manner, that the beating didn't cause problems which will plague this baby thru-out his life. If the baby didn't die, seems the perp gets off a little easier. Unfortunately for the baby, the sibling and even the mom, he would be out soon (heck, some just get freakin' probation!!!) And, of course, "they" (whomever "they" is--child services? family services? PETA?) strive to keep the family unit together @ all costs--and sometimes the cost is the life of a child who had been removed and was safe--to be returned because the parents went to some classes. Hopefully, this woman will see that her children are more important than a man who will beat a baby and will not hook back up w/him. Or, if she does, that the children are removed from HER,also.

LWOP would be a good option. Let him beat up on some cell mate who's interupting his sleep--someone bigger than him who can show what a beating feels like.

[Amy]

And maybe if Lee can avoid any form of prosecution, he can provide more grandchildren someday. By all accounts he was a very loving grandpa. I heard the Enquirer is reporting he recognized the sticker and that's what pushed him over the edge.

I'm betting that if we got a copy of the Enquirer (no, not buying it here, might go grocery shopping and get in a line long enough to look this up) that the actual report probably says "a source close to the case who doesn't want to be identified" or "neighbors have speculated" or something along those lines.

[Amy]

I haven't seen Lie To Me yet though you all made me very interested in seeing it. My DD told me about last weeks episodes so I went online to the trailor and saw parts that I really enjoyed. After seeing some of the obvious signs of lying, I went to Casey Anthony's jail house visiting videos and watched her face. WOW!! I know her lies are more than obvious but I was fascinated with the facial expressions and how they work against her.

Now I'm a body language expert. yesterday I was a scientist and tomorrow, who knows? Thanks for putting up with me. Have a hagnog friends. :beer:

Be all you can be!!!! Wow, and without having to sit thru dry old lectures, getting out in the weather to get to a classroom!!! What a world we live in!!! :beer:

[Amy]

This could be on doctor's advice. Maybe they feel he needs some space and some time away from her or he may not WANT to see her or she may not want to see him. Who knows? She's not too worried. She went jetting off to CA.

Haven't heard any more about Lee being @ the hospital, either. I'm wondering if he and then she went to the hospital, only to find out that he isn't allowed visitors yet, even family? Even tho they keep saying, he is going to be released tomorrow, and every day, it's tomorrow. Maybe he hadn't progressed yet to the stage where they feel having family come in is a good idea.

Or, maybe George, like Casey, is invoking his rights about who to put on his visitors list, and maybe neither Lee nor Cindy is on that list? (Cuz, in any hospital, the patient has the right to curtail visitation.)

[Amy]

Jose doesn't understand the criticism, he thinks it's just people expressing their expressions of her. She smiled at the legal defense team. What? Is she supposed to be unhappy to see them? They are the only people fighting for her. It's unrealistic for people to think she would look mad at her attorneys. It's ridiculous.

Baden thinks it's ridic too. They want her to show emotion. She does have emotion. The big smile was for Baden; they had only met for the first time the day before. Casey can't win. People are out to get her. She's micro-analyzed.

Baez on the change of venue; they're looking for a place where there is less chance of a tainted jury from coverage. Everyone in Orlando knows Casey and him and LKB and every detail of the case. Geraldo asks about Miami, but Jose won't get specific because the media will populate that area with stories.

Discovery & release of information: Baden says the latest information came from the defense reading People magazine. She's talking about the duct tape information coming from a police source. They are getting discovery from the court, but they are getting leaks in the media that is not necessarily the truth.

The motion for recusal: Baez feels justified in laying a record.

I don't know what laying a record is. Hope it isn't like laying a chick. OTOH, I think Baez laid an egg.

[Amy]

Geraldo said in his intro of Baez and Baden that he felt it was "unfair" for the judge to require Casey's presence after she signed the waiver with Baez's knowledge.

Geraldo thinks everything that doesn't fall into the defense's lap is "unfair." Even things that are legal, that are standard procedure, etc. Geraldo needs to get his head out of Baez's keister and step back and remember some points of law that I am sure he knew @ one time.

And, the problem might be Baez' knowledge HE doesn't always seem to have a grasp on some basic laws. And, what "knowledge" did he impart to Casey that she signed the waiver? Correct knowledge? Oh, what am I thinking? I keep forgetting how intelligent she is, and that SHE gives advise to her attorney. :punch:

[Native Alien]

Good evening everyone.

First as to the remains, I went back and rewatched the entire hearing and nowhere did I hear the A's lawyer ask about the remains. He waived the whole conflict of interest think on Nejames, and then he said that the A's were waiving whatever to get the discovery done in a quick fashion, I am paraphrasing here. But at no time did he mention anything about the remains.

Cindy and Lee visiting George. I asked my friend about that and she said that normally when someone is admitted it can be up to a month before they are allowed visitors and usually never in the first two to three weeks, not even family. That gives the people that are treating them time to get to know the person without the influence of others being around.


Geraldo, don't even get me started on Geraldo these days. He was great when he first started but has gone way over on the sleaze factor for years.

[Amy]

I'm really irked right now. Geraldo said Cindy. It is still on his page, this weekend it says. He doesn't even plug it? Is this a load of http://planetsmilies.net/animal-smiley-4960.gif (http://planetsmilies.net) ?

When someone confronts him on it, perhaps he will say that Cindy's emotional state was such she just couldn't make this interview. Altho, it would seem he would have HER attorney on in her stead, instead of her daughter's attorneys. And, of course, he didn't want to mention on national tv that Cindy wouldn't be able to make it tonight, because he wants to respect her privacy and all that.

[Kendu]

Here's my 2 cents http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-forum/2c.gif (http://www.freesmileys.org) I think you are absolutely right. I'd keep my children's identities as private as possible. Especially living in NYC.

Gator


JFK and MLK had security also.

[shadydaisy]

George could possibly have requested no visitors, especially those that suck the will to live out of him. The hospital would grant that request. It would explain the absence of Cindy and Lee.

[Gatordog]

Just happened to click back onto Geraldo and he has Baez and Kinney-Baden on. He has asked them about Casey's reported inappropriate behavior(referring to her smiling etc). I'll come back with a recap. (Y'all know I'm slow, right?)

Did you hear Kinney-Baden say that when the Liar flashed that big smile, it was for her? Funny, when Fox showed the clip, the Liar had the back of her head towards Kinney-Baden and she was facing at Bozo Baez. When I smile at someone, I generally look at them. But then, that's just me. :rolleyes:

Gator

[Gatordog]

I recorded Friday's hearing and watched it again this morning in response to previous postings regarding Conway's requests during the hearing. Conway never asked for Caylee's remains be turned over for burial. His request on behalf of the family is that they want the defense to get discovery as soon as possible. They want the judge to make his rulings quickly on his decisions so the can have the trial as quickly as possible. Never asked for Caylee's remains or a possoble date that she will be turned over. So, she sits in a box in a drawer like a pair of earrings. :(

Gator

[Gatordog]

I waffle back on forth on this issue, too. Some days I think it's probably Casey who isn't releasing, just because she can (not release) or to hurt her parents, or to keep the issue in the headlines. Other days, I think Baez is probably feeding Casey some story about why she can't release the remains, speaking in double gobbedly-gook legalese, because it keeps HIM in the news, on days the focus is somewhere else.

Just my guess but I would think that The Liar hasn't asked Bozo once about the status of Caylee's remains. Too bad Caylee can't have a Guardian ad Litem in death. Poor child hasn't got one person on her side who should be there for her. George made himself crazy with the conflict and for supporting the Liar over the innocent over and over again. I can't see any judge forcing the burial because that would definitely give the defense some grounds for appeal. They would say that they didn't have the ability to easily go back and test evidence.

Gator

[eatcupcakes]

Ha haaaaa. Do they realize how stupid they look covering for the Liar. We here are just way to smart to believe such tom foolery :biggrin:

I guess Baden is a liar to. I did see KC smile at her once but I also saw a big smile for JB. I will not be posting much today, it's the big game and we are having a big party because the Cardinals are in the Super Bowl. See ya tomorrow:seeya:

[shadydaisy]

Hey Shady, did you get the feeling that maybe George is a bit of a wimp? I mean just for a moment I was a little miffed at him for abandoning ship there. With no mercy at all for Cindy, or arrogant Lee (sorry) I still feel a little idealistic about men being the strong ones and this woman is dealing with the same things they are.

Come home, be a caveman! Take over, be a man! Give your family some support with this mess, don't fall apart like a little wimp and add to the problems.

Alright, I'm sorry. I know he's in hell. That was bad of me. :chicken:

I know what you mean. I do believe George is lacking in the package department, but that's nothing new. It's been a long standing way of life in the Ant's household. Cindy may still be denial that Casey could have possibly had anything to do with Caylee's death and George may just be plain old tired of listening to her. Can you imagine her going to the hospital and telling George to get up and out - we have to go find Caylee's killer? Knowing there is a box of bones still needing to be buried would be enough to make me need medication. Now get up and go pick out jewelery.

I have no mercy for Cindy anymore. I feel she has been the Queen Bee and unwittingly orchestrated the series of events that led to the destruction of that family. The emails to her brother lay it out very nicely. She is the queen of denial.

[eatcupcakes]

Wow. That's way faster than California, I think. By the time executions happen out here, all the reporters who covered the cases are dead and the victim's family goes in to San Quentin in wheelchairs.

California, they never execute, it is a joke, if you are on DR in CA you will die of old age. Now Fl and TX are another story. THey like to execute and do it quite frequently. Old Charlie Manson was on DR in Ca and then they did away with the DP so they commuted his sentence but not to Life without Parole, he keeps coming up for Parole and of course they deny it but what the FK why would they do such a stupid thing. Then on top of all that they reinstated the DP but never use it. I just don't get it. I think if you get the DP you should be executed in 6 weeks. How fast was it that they hung Sadam in Iraq, pretty fast was it a week. The Iraqs know how to use the DP.

[eatcupcakes]

I know what you mean. I do believe George is lacking in the package department, but that's nothing new. It's been a long standing way of life in the Ant's household. Cindy may still be denial that Casey could have possibly had anything to do with Caylee's death and George may just be plain old tired of listening to her. Can you imagine her going to the hospital and telling George to get up and out - we have to go find Caylee's killer? Knowing there is a box of bones still needing to be buried would be enough to make me need medication. Now get up and go pick out jewelery.

I have no mercy for Cindy anymore. I feel she has been the Queen Bee and unwittingly orchestrated the series of events that led to the destruction of that family. The emails to her brother lay it out very nicely. She is the queen of denial.

Aw come on you guys, don't you know we women are the strong ones when it comes to this kind of crisis. Didn't u ever see the movie Steel Magnolias, its one of my favs.

[Justice Denied?]

I don't know what laying a record is. Hope it isn't like laying a chick. OTOH, I think Baez laid an egg.

Baez is saying that he wants to get everything down in writing, in court, so later on they will have grounds for appeal by claiming that the defense was treated unfairly by the court.

[Justice Denied?]

When someone confronts him on it, perhaps he will say that Cindy's emotional state was such she just couldn't make this interview. Altho, it would seem he would have HER attorney on in her stead, instead of her daughter's attorneys. And, of course, he didn't want to mention on national tv that Cindy wouldn't be able to make it tonight, because he wants to respect her privacy and all that.

Isn't Geraldo on Sunday night also? Maybe she will be on tonite?

[Native Alien]

Isn't Geraldo on Sunday night also? Maybe she will be on tonite?

According to the guide on our teevee he is on tonight and I was just wondering the very same thing. Maybe tonight Cindy will be on.

[Justice Denied?]

I recorded Friday's hearing and watched it again this morning in response to previous postings regarding Conway's requests during the hearing. Conway never asked for Caylee's remains be turned over for burial. His request on behalf of the family is that they want the defense to get discovery as soon as possible. They want the judge to make his rulings quickly on his decisions so the can have the trial as quickly as possible. Never asked for Caylee's remains or a possoble date that she will be turned over. So, she sits in a box in a drawer like a pair of earrings. :(

Gator

Native Alien and Gator,

I appreciate all the effort you went to checking that out. I know that I read that somewhere and I think it was at a link posted here to an Orlando TV station. Apparantly, they had the wrong info. I am so glad to finally get it straight. I didn't know how to go back and look it up myself. Two thumbs up!!

[javahog]

I got a feeling Cindy was told not to go to court. These lawyers have to control these people. One lawyer already walked off the case. Jose might too. The Anthony women are camera freaks and they are so spontaneous they shoot themselves in the foot every time. I'm thinking Casey was tutored and convinced to shut the F up in court and watch her face. They are like children who need to be taught to behave. IMO

Jose? Quit this case? Not if she stabbed him with a fork and called him Suzy, imo.

[javahog]

California, they never execute, it is a joke, if you are on DR in CA you will die of old age. Now Fl and TX are another story. THey like to execute and do it quite frequently. Old Charlie Manson was on DR in Ca and then they did away with the DP so they commuted his sentence but not to Life without Parole, he keeps coming up for Parole and of course they deny it but what the FK why would they do such a stupid thing. Then on top of all that they reinstated the DP but never use it. I just don't get it. I think if you get the DP you should be executed in 6 weeks. How fast was it that they hung Sadam in Iraq, pretty fast was it a week. The Iraqs know how to use the DP.

Well, the DP was ruled unconstitutional by a court, it wasn't the people, and then that was overruled, but people who were commuted to life weren't put back to death, sadly, since old Charlie begs for it. But we do have executions here. Every time someone's executed the candle brigade gathers on one side of the road in San Quentin, and their philosophical enemies on the other...the average is 10 years or so, but Scott Peterson will sadly take a lot longer, I'll bet.

[Native Alien]

Danagher may I use that "stuck on stupid" for a sig line? I like that.

But I also think that you are very right. I think that Cindy was making it out like she had the perfect life with the perfect husband and the perfect children and then the bomb dropped.

First there was George with the online betting or scam or whatever he got wrapped up in, and all the problems that he had.

Then there was Casey, unwed and pregnant. Then there is Casey stealing from everyone.

Blew her perfect little world right out of the water. I am wondering just how bad that the blowup that she had at Casey was.

[Native Alien]

There was more stealing than just the numbers off a check. There was also Cindy's credit cards, and then the checks of Amy's that she used. That was one of the things that I was struck with when I looked her up in the Orange County Clerk's records. They have literally combined it all into one case and even if she doesn't go up for the murder, there are fraud, identity thief and forgery charges against her.

They have her on video with the forgery and to quote a the lawyer in the movie "Big Easy" "Have you ever seen a jury watch a video tape?"

This is going to be one ugly trial any way that it goes. Bozo can only work on the murder charger but they all need to remember that while she can be found not guilty on that one, there are other charges present and pending.

[RaVeN71806]

I really do hope casey goes down with all charges...shes a monster :mad:...you know theres another site that I go on for little caylee and there are people who actually support casey...:eek:...I couldn't believe it...

[lorettalockhorn]

I think she will go down on all counts. The other charges just make it all much sweeter. Has anyone heard any court dates on the cheque etc. counts or the Z.G. civil trial? MOO :rose:

Hey, I think she will go down on anything. http://http://www.mysmiley.net/imgs/smile/happy/happy0071.gif (http://www.thescubasite.com/Scuba-Diving-in-Australia/scuba-diving-in-australia)

I really do hope casey goes down with all charges...shes a monster :mad:...you know theres another site that I go on for little caylee and there are people who actually support casey...:eek:...I couldn't believe it...

Raven, I don't think most of us would last five minutes over there! Oh well.

[RaVeN71806]

Hey, I think she will go down on anything. http://http://www.mysmiley.net/imgs/smile/happy/happy0071.gif (http://www.thescubasite.com/Scuba-Diving-in-Australia/scuba-diving-in-australia)



Raven, I don't think most of us would last five minutes over there! Oh well.

lol Loretta your too funny...theres so many fights on that site...I just read and make a few comments here and there towards the case...I did make a comment here awhile back about George and Cindy not going to the crime scene and I should of never said it although I don't really care for Cindy because of things shes done through out this case but I'm not in there shoes and hope to never be...I do really feel bad for George hes really taking it hard and you can see it..sorry I'm just babbling here I'll stop now lol..

[One2Snoop]

I really do hope casey goes down with all charges...shes a monster :mad:...you know theres another site that I go on for little caylee and there are people who actually support casey...:eek:...I couldn't believe it...

:eek: LOL don't tell them about this place - they wouldn't last long here either.

[lorettalockhorn]

lol Loretta your too funny...theres so many fights on that site...I just read and make a few comments here and there towards the case...I did make a comment here awhile back about George and Cindy not going to the crime scene and I should of never said it although I don't really care for Cindy because of things shes done through out this case but I'm not in there shoes and hope to never be...I do really feel bad for George hes really taking it hard and you can see it..sorry I'm just babbling here I'll stop now lol..

You're not babbling! It's easy to understand just about everyone's differing opinions of the Anthonys,' and their behavior (except Cindy's utter nastiness). I look at George pretty much like I would an emotionally battered woman. As if it's not bad enough that he has been figuratively castrated, it's been done in public. Let's hope that he pulls himself up by the bootstraps, takes his balls back, and moves forward with his life the very best that he can.

[Native Alien]

I think she will go down on all counts. The other charges just make it all much sweeter. Has anyone heard any court dates on the cheque etc. counts or the Z.G. civil trial? MOO :rose:

On the Z. G. trial no. I do know that the questions were sent to her by mail, likely thru Bozo's office, and I can pretty much tell you that Casey (per the advise of her attorney), is only going to answer the ones that ask her name and birthday. Casey also is going to have to drop her countersuit.

I saw the pretrial on the civil suit and the judge basically told Bozo that his client could do one of two things. Casey can either drop the countersuit against Z.G. or she can invoke her 5th amendment rights. But Casey can't do both and the judge didn't say a thing about holding the civil trial until after the criminal trial so I am thinking that it will go on as planned.

But they have combined all the criminal charges into one case as far as I could tell from looking on the Orange County Clerk's site. Double check that with Gator just to be sure that I am right on that one.

[Gatordog]

I agree! George is looking for a way out. Hopefully he will come to terms with all of this. Caylee's remains have GOT to be a big issue for him. I hope he's medicated to high heaven! Cindy's denial is keep her grounded for now. I still feel she is going to take the pipe when it's proven that Casey did it. I pray there is more than circumstantial evidence. Am I stupid, of course there is.

Cindy is guilty of the snob syndrome. She was hiding the problems in her family instead of getting some help for those problems. She is like a sister in law of mine who looks down her nose at people and always pretends that she has a perfect life. She drives a boob car. (Porche) She has to live in the ritzy area, wears the finest, furniture is over the top expensive, kids went to the finest schools and she refused them any interaction with kids from the "other side of the tracks" and she won't visit or communicate with anyone who doesn't have a lot of money. That was... until she found out that her husband was having a torrid affair with one of those rich b!tches who could buy and sell her in a NY second. Now she's humble. I guess he was bored Shtless. Ho hum.

Cindy is now in the boat she made. She still doesn't want to get real. She's holding on to her illusions I suppose. It's a great case study of stuck on stupid.

My opinion, as always.

Now I'm a gossip Gerty. :hat: my favorite hat.

I only hope that George comes out much stronger and stands up for Caylee. He knows that his daughter needs to be punished for her evil deeds and that poor Caylee was the real victim here. For the trial, he needs to sit on the prosecution's side. Cindy can sit wherever she likes.

Gator

[RaVeN71806]

Don't worry snoop I won't tell anybody about here ;).....God love the mod though shes banning people left and right on there...sadly enough Cindy has threaten this mod...I don't know her personally but I know her from Kelsey Purpose and shes such a sweet person she doesn't deserve it...and your totally right about George Loretta he does act like a battered women :(...I can see him though getting his boys back and telling where its at or maybe thats just hope...

[RaVeN71806]

I only hope that George comes out much stronger and stands up for Caylee. He knows that his daughter needs to be punished for her evil deeds and that poor Caylee was the real victim here. For the trial, he needs to sit on the prosecution's side. Cindy can sit wherever she likes.

Gator

I hope for the samething as you do Gator ;)

[Woostock]

Dan
I am with you. Casey would not have lasted a day with me, either. The more liars lie the more they lie. Liars need to be confronted with every lie they tell and if not, welllll-----you get a Casey aka The Liar. A therapist at my school told us that years ago and by golly she was right. It's a lot of work and time but the alternative is worse.

[Justice Denied?]

I must confess, that "stuck on stupid" line originated with one of the talking head lawyers (forgot his name) on NG when the Holloway case was going on.

Its been said here that the fight Cindy had with Casey was pretty bad. Cindy had made a visit to her mother's that day and learned that Casey had taken the numbers off a check her grandparents gave her for some occasion. and she confronted Casey who went off on her. Cindy grabbed her by the neck and tried to choke her and threatened to take Caylee away from her. Next day (allegedly) Caylee was no more. Hmmm, I guess she fixed her mother good eh? Now she's rotting in jail. We should care? I hope they break her bones one at a time.

God forgive me. She is the worst kind of monster I've ever heard of.

I'm guessing that part of that argument was Cindy telling Casey she was going to get custody of Caylee. After all, she had supposedly been to the therapist just the week before. Casey decides that is never going to happen. If she can't have Caylee, no one will. That'll show Cindy.

[Justice Denied?]

lol Loretta your too funny...theres so many fights on that site...I just read and make a few comments here and there towards the case...I did make a comment here awhile back about George and Cindy not going to the crime scene and I should of never said it although I don't really care for Cindy because of things shes done through out this case but I'm not in there shoes and hope to never be...I do really feel bad for George hes really taking it hard and you can see it..sorry I'm just babbling here I'll stop now lol..

I certainly can respect your feelings but I will tell you I am a grandmother and I do not believe I could bring myself to go to the place where my granddaughter's body was dumped like so much garbage.

In a way, I do feel sorry for Cindy. This IS her daughter that she raised and she is going to spend the rest of her life in prison. Cindy has to be greiving for that life that was lost as well as for Caylee.

[Justice Denied?]

I hope for the samething as you do Gator ;)

I try not to mind anyone else's business, but we were talking about this last night. I would like to suggest you change your avitar. That is a very beautiful little girl. But, remember, there are a lot of kidnappers, child molesters and perverts who constantly search the Web. I don't want to think of a pervert taking his sexual pleasure while looking at your child's picture. We must keep our children safe. Please forgive me if I offended in any way. I am just an over-protective grandma.:rose:

[lorettalockhorn]

I try not to mind anyone else's business, but we were talking about this last night. I would like to suggest you change your avitar. That is a very beautiful little girl. But, remember, there are a lot of kidnappers, child molesters and perverts who constantly search the Web. I don't want to think of a pervert taking his sexual pleasure while looking at your child's picture. We must keep our children safe. Please forgive me if I offended in any way. I am just an over-protective grandma.:rose:

Not to gang up, but I have a very strong tendency to agree. A true crime site in itself would probably be a huge draw to all kinds of perps. I'm sure they love reading what people have to say about the likes of themselves. And God forbid if someone finds out who's who and posts personal information here to lead a creep right to a little one's door. It has happened, thanks to

Oh never mind, just want to encourage people to very careful.

[RaVeN71806]

I try not to mind anyone else's business, but we were talking about this last night. I would like to suggest you change your avitar. That is a very beautiful little girl. But, remember, there are a lot of kidnappers, child molesters and perverts who constantly search the Web. I don't want to think of a pervert taking his sexual pleasure while looking at your child's picture. We must keep our children safe. Please forgive me if I offended in any way. I am just an over-protective grandma.:rose:

That little girl in my avatar is my niece...she passed away a year ago thats why I have her in my avatar...shes my little butterfly in heaven...and no you did not offend me at all....;)

[RaVeN71806]

I certainly can respect your feelings but I will tell you I am a grandmother and I do not believe I could bring myself to go to the place where my granddaughter's body was dumped like so much garbage.

In a way, I do feel sorry for Cindy. This IS her daughter that she raised and she is going to spend the rest of her life in prison. Cindy has to be greiving for that life that was lost as well as for Caylee.

I feel sorry for cindy aswell...my parents have lost a granddaughter and I've lost a niece....I try not to compare my nieces death to any childs death by all means...my niece died from an accident...but I watch and read about what Casey did and to see Cindys actions just really hits home...because I would give anything to have just one more day with my niece...I've watched how much a family can be torn apart and how the parents have finger's pointed at them...I'm sorry if I'm talking out my butt here and I'm sure I'm probably not making sense I'm sorry...stories like Caylee, Riley, and Kelsey and many others just kill me...because my brother and sister in law would give anything to have there little girl back...I was there when my niece died I listened to her mother and father cry...I shouldn't judge by any means but in casey case she murdered her child out spitfulness and that angers me along with cindys actions...I do apologize for saying that cindy and george should of been there I was very angry...

[SaraSidle]

It makes me so sad that Caylee seems to be forgotten in all the mess. When is her burial ever going to be the priority it should be. :rose:

Hey Beem please do not forget hundreds of people have left a beautiful memorial where she left with pictures prayers dolls and so forth. and our Gator planted beautiful flowers. Her soul is already way in heaven.....sara

[Justice Denied?]

I feel sorry for cindy aswell...my parents have lost a granddaughter and I've lost a niece....I try not to compare my nieces death to any childs death by all means...my niece died from an accident...but I watch and read about what Casey did and to see Cindys actions just really hits home...because I would give anything to have just one more day with my niece...I've watched how much a family can be torn apart and how the parents have finger's pointed at them...I'm sorry if I'm talking out my butt here and I'm sure I'm probably not making sense I'm sorry...stories like Caylee, Riley, and Kelsey and many others just kill me...because my brother and sister in law would give anything to have there little girl back...I was there when my niece died I listened to her mother and father cry...I shouldn't judge by any means but in casey case she murdered her child out spitfulness and that angers me along with cindys actions...I do apologize for saying that cindy and george should of been there I was very angry...

raven,

I am so sorry. I had no way of knowing of your sorrow. You and your family have my sincere condolences. I lost a niece in '91. Her mother (my sister) was like a robot for the first year. we practically had to move her from one place to the other. At 3 years, she pretty well functioned on her own and and 5 she was more or less normal. But there is a deep sadness within her and she's never had the joy she had before. Grief can steal so much.

Feel free to express yourself here. You are entitled to your opinion and whether we agree or whether we don't, we'll try to be respectful.

[javahog]

Did anyone else have the impression that Geraldo (may the fleas of a thousand camels lay eggs in his armpits) was going to have a fresh interview with Cindy Anthony? Because I sure had that impression, lets see, because he implied it?!

It was a clip of an interview from July. Either they were negotiating and it fell through and the producer threw this on to shut people up about false advertising, or it WAS false advertising. Did you all know Gerry's stand-in host, Kimberly Guilfoyle, is the ex of Mayor Gavin Newsom of SF?

[javahog]

I feel sorry for cindy aswell...my parents have lost a granddaughter and I've lost a niece....I try not to compare my nieces death to any childs death by all means...my niece died from an accident...but I watch and read about what Casey did and to see Cindys actions just really hits home...because I would give anything to have just one more day with my niece...I've watched how much a family can be torn apart and how the parents have finger's pointed at them...I'm sorry if I'm talking out my butt here and I'm sure I'm probably not making sense I'm sorry...stories like Caylee, Riley, and Kelsey and many others just kill me...because my brother and sister in law would give anything to have there little girl back...I was there when my niece died I listened to her mother and father cry...I shouldn't judge by any means but in casey case she murdered her child out spitfulness and that angers me along with cindys actions...I do apologize for saying that cindy and george should of been there I was very angry...

I'm sorry for your and their loss. It is so hard seeing people who love their children lose theirs and then have to see others just throw their precious gift away.

[One2Snoop]

Did anyone else have the impression that Geraldo (may the fleas of a thousand camels lay eggs in his armpits) was going to have a fresh interview with Cindy Anthony? Because I sure had that impression, lets see, because he implied it?!

It was a clip of an interview from July. Either they were negotiating and it fell through and the producer threw this on to shut people up about false advertising, or it WAS false advertising. Did you all know Gerry's stand-in host, Kimberly Guilfoyle, is the ex of Mayor Gavin Newsom of SF?

OMG Java you do have a way with words - love that descriptive for Geraldo's armpits! http://i39.tinypic.com/2l9mmj8.jpg

Still looking for the scoop on this Cindy interview - I think it was horsechit and false advertising.

I truly believe there's a reason KG and Gavin are ex's - http://i43.tinypic.com/2j69wso.gif JMO! :cool:

[Justice Denied?]

Did anyone else have the impression that Geraldo (may the fleas of a thousand camels lay eggs in his armpits) was going to have a fresh interview with Cindy Anthony? Because I sure had that impression, lets see, because he implied it?!

It was a clip of an interview from July. Either they were negotiating and it fell through and the producer threw this on to shut people up about false advertising, or it WAS false advertising. Did you all know Gerry's stand-in host, Kimberly Guilfoyle, is the ex of Mayor Gavin Newsom of SF?

Yes, I saw that! I'd be willing to bet than an interview was set up and for some reason it didn't come off. Maybe Cindy got wind of all the criticism for her not coming to court for Casey OR Caylee and not visiting George in the hospital. Any way, it didn't happen. Judging by that July tape, I find it hard to believe Cindy would want to talk to Geraldo.

[lorettalockhorn]

I feel sorry for cindy aswell...my parents have lost a granddaughter and I've lost a niece....I try not to compare my nieces death to any childs death by all means...my niece died from an accident...but I watch and read about what Casey did and to see Cindys actions just really hits home...because I would give anything to have just one more day with my niece...I've watched how much a family can be torn apart and how the parents have finger's pointed at them...I'm sorry if I'm talking out my butt here and I'm sure I'm probably not making sense I'm sorry...stories like Caylee, Riley, and Kelsey and many others just kill me...because my brother and sister in law would give anything to have there little girl back...I was there when my niece died I listened to her mother and father cry...I shouldn't judge by any means but in casey case she murdered her child out spitfulness and that angers me along with cindys actions...I do apologize for saying that cindy and george should of been there I was very angry...

Raven, so sorry for your loss.

[lorettalockhorn]

Hey Beem please do not forget hundreds of people have left a beautiful memorial where she left with pictures prayers dolls and so forth. and our Gator planted beautiful flowers. Her soul is already way in heaven.....sara

Hey, how are you doing? The memorial site is great for those outside the Anthonys, but I can understand why they don't visit there. The importance of the burial is that funerals are such an important part of the healing process (in our culture, anyway). G&C have a long road ahead of them; hopefully whatever the snafu is that is preventing this step will soon be cleared up.

[One2Snoop]

Hey, how are you doing? The memorial site is great for those outside the Anthonys, but I can understand why they don't visit there. The importance of the burial is that funerals are such an important part of the healing process (in our culture, anyway). G&C have a long road ahead of them; hopefully whatever the snafu is that is preventing this step will soon be cleared up.

I think alot of the snafu has to do with people like Murt and gang who think they're entitled to go to Caylee's memorial service - Have you seen where they were talking about recording the service? :eek: I don't think G&C should have a public service - they need to grieve in their own time and their own way and keep Caylee's service private.

JMO.

[lighthousedazy]

I think alot of the snafu has to do with people like Murt and gang who think they're entitled to go to Caylee's memorial service - Have you seen where they were talking about recording the service? :eek: I don't think G&C should have a public service - they need to grieve in their own time and their own way and keep Caylee's service private.

JMO.I think the service should be private too. :rose: For Caylee.
I think recording the service is ridiculous also, like snapping pictures of the corpse in the casket. Yes, we all have a relative that has done that, well maybe not all. lol

[lorettalockhorn]

Did anyone else have the impression that Geraldo (may the fleas of a thousand camels lay eggs in his armpits) was going to have a fresh interview with Cindy Anthony? Because I sure had that impression, lets see, because he implied it?!

It was a clip of an interview from July. Either they were negotiating and it fell through and the producer threw this on to shut people up about false advertising, or it WAS false advertising. Did you all know Gerry's stand-in host, Kimberly Guilfoyle, is the ex of Mayor Gavin Newsom of SF?

LMFAO May those camels also spit on him!

KG doesn't use her new hubby's name like she did Gavin's. Wonder why. (Yeah, I'm a yenta.)

[lorettalockhorn]

I think alot of the snafu has to do with people like Murt and gang who think they're entitled to go to Caylee's memorial service - Have you seen where they were talking about recording the service? :eek: I don't think G&C should have a public service - they need to grieve in their own time and their own way and keep Caylee's service private.

JMO.

Lawsy, I was reading all kinds of crap at Beaconhell last night (about Murt). The Anthonys certainly should be able to have a funeral without worrying about all that! And if they want to prevent the public memorial from being photographed or recorded, they should have that right too.

[Amy]

Lawsy, I was reading all kinds of crap at Beaconhell last night (about Murt). The Anthonys certainly should be able to have a funeral without worrying about all that! And if they want to prevent the public memorial from being photographed or recorded, they should have that right too.

Whomever does attend the memorial, I think they should remember this is a memorial for Caylee, not a one-upmanship to pooh @ the A's or Casey. Surely they will be having a private service, and possibly wouldn't attend the public one. But, whether they are there or not, people just need to be respectful.

[Native Alien]

Raven, I am sorry for your loss.

Amy, I have to agree with your last post. Any memorial service needs to be respectful and people need to allow the family, (regardless of what we think of them), time to grieve in private. Granted they have had months, but still.

[Native Alien]

I think alot of the snafu has to do with people like Murt and gang who think they're entitled to go to Caylee's memorial service - Have you seen where they were talking about recording the service? :eek: I don't think G&C should have a public service - they need to grieve in their own time and their own way and keep Caylee's service private.

JMO.

Okay I am going strictly on memory of a video that I saw somewhere, I will try to find it in a bit, and post a link to it, the video that is. Anyway, I remember a conflict between the A's, newscrews, some people, and then LP was there along with his people, in a park. It involved a sign that George said that he had made and was stolen. Cindy got into it with the newspeople.

http://vodpod.com/watch/1165572-padilla-blasts-cindy-anthonydoesnt-like-anthony-family

http://vodpod.com/watch/1165572-padilla-blasts-cindy-anthonydoesnt-like-anthony-family

My point with this is that people are going to do what they do. Noone had any control over this. The biggest problem is that if the A's want a memorial service with the remains, then I would suggest that they do not advertise it and just do it. Because the reality is that anyone can hold a memorial service and they can't control it.

[eatcupcakes]

Remember this is the Casy Anthony family and entourage = if their lips are moving - doubt what they're saying. :rolleyes:

Gator

:beer: I have been thinking that for quite awhile. As far as Cindy going to see George, remember he is in a hospital 2 counties away, I think it might be quite a drive. She probable talks to him on the phone and maybe his Dr.'s or him want her to stay away. We don't know the whole story. This is not a happy family, you can tell that just by looking at them and that was before all this terrible thing happened. I think the media should leave C&G alone and let then try to get on with their lives in private. MOO

[eatcupcakes]

It's 6:30am and I just choked on my coffee jav! ROTFL!!!!!!!!!!

Was that 6:30 Feb 1st, and did it happen, did anyone see it. Geraldo is a a--h---. How do these people get shows?

[RaVeN71806]

Thank you everyone...its hard everyday to not think about her...shes my little butterfly in heaven and now she has a little friend to play with sweet caylee..I'm getting choked up here :(lol...as for the memorial service I really think the A's should do it privately because its gonna be really really hard..my brother and sister in law are still not right and I don't think they ever will be but time does heal most of the wounds...:rose:

[RaVeN71806]

Raven your story is sad. I am so sorry for all of your family. I also know what losing a child I put on this earth feels like. There are no words. I find the Anthony's odd because of their reactions to this horrific crime. I've never seen anything like it. They had words, but none of them made sense.

The loss of Caylee has to be more than devastating because of the way she died. As for Casey, I don't understand what they are holding on to. There is nothing there. They are both gone. IMO, murder is a lot worse and a lot different than losing a child to sickness, suicide, or accident. I have no doubts about that.

I have the feeling that Cindy is more angry with Casey for shaming her family. I want to be wrong about that, but the way Cindy manipulated, controlled and resented Casey was part of the problem. Her little game of making Caylee call her mommy was a bit sick because she was enjoying Caseys anger about it. There seemed to be a basic problem between Casey and Cindy. It was obvious during the jail visits when George sat next to Cindy while she was falling apart and with the exception of once, when he barely patted her back, he seemed reluctant to touch her while Casey was watching him.

In other videos when Casey wasn't there, he was able to embrace her, put his arm around her and did what any man would do to comfort her. The body language was a give away. Something was radically wrong in that family.

The dysfunction was so over the top that this whole affair is next to impossible to profile. There is nothing to compare it to.

Now I'm a profiler. :hat:


I totally agree with danager...100%...ooh yes murder is alot worse then they others...it hurt painfully when my niece died from the accident but murder by the hand of a loved but by her mother I can't even imagine the pain...Cindy is a controling person you can see it and george has just about had it...I truely have sympathy for the A's but also have anger towards Cindy there is a time when you stick up for your child my mom stuck up for me on many things but this one thing she wouldn't actually I would beg for them to keep in jail then have to deal with my mother...I'm sure Cindy has gotten Casey out of many issues in her life but this is one thing Cindy needs to let her fall for..This is the one thing Cindy needs to take control of...she is the person now to be Caylees voice and give her the justice she deserves..

[RaVeN71806]

So sorry for your loss Raven. No greater loss than that of a child. Glad u are here and away from the crazy poster people :rose:

lol@ your second post...and thank you....your absoluately right about that beem..it is one the hardest thing anyone will go through in there entire life..yeah the posters are crazy I want to say something to them but I wouldn't look any better then them...although some of the posts are really out there...:eek:

[Justice Denied?]

Raven, I am sorry for your loss.

Amy, I have to agree with your last post. Any memorial service needs to be respectful and people need to allow the family, (regardless of what we think of them), time to grieve in private. Granted they have had months, but still.

Why is it such a big deal to arrange a public memorial and a small private funeral? Nancy Regan did it. Well-known people do it all the time. They usually have a small private funeral and then later a large public memorial to honor their loved one. Even Anna Nichole Smith had a fairly private funeral. Give me a break!

[Gatordog]

That little girl in my avatar is my niece...she passed away a year ago thats why I have her in my avatar...shes my little butterfly in heaven...and no you did not offend me at all....;)

My condolences to you and your family. What a tragic loss. I am very sorry.

Gator

[Gatordog]

Hey Beem please do not forget hundreds of people have left a beautiful memorial where she left with pictures prayers dolls and so forth. and our Gator planted beautiful flowers. Her soul is already way in heaven.....sara

Thanks Sara. It's sad, but strangers have given Caylee what her family has not. If not for the goodness of strangers, this little child would be forgotten but she is loved by those who have never met her.

Gator

[javahog]

lol@ your second post...and thank you....your absoluately right about that beem..it is one the hardest thing anyone will go through in there entire life..yeah the posters are crazy I want to say something to them but I wouldn't look any better then them...although some of the posts are really out there...:eek:

Hey now, I will not allow MY craziness to be underestimated! :biggrin:

[Gatordog]

Did anyone else have the impression that Geraldo (may the fleas of a thousand camels lay eggs in his armpits) was going to have a fresh interview with Cindy Anthony? Because I sure had that impression, lets see, because he implied it?!

It was a clip of an interview from July. Either they were negotiating and it fell through and the producer threw this on to shut people up about false advertising, or it WAS false advertising. Did you all know Gerry's stand-in host, Kimberly Guilfoyle, is the ex of Mayor Gavin Newsom of SF?

I thought it was going to be a new interview. But considering this is Geraldo, it doesn't surprise me that they just showed an interview from August and let us think it would be a new interview.

Gator

[Gatordog]

OMG Java you do have a way with words - love that descriptive for Geraldo's armpits! http://i39.tinypic.com/2l9mmj8.jpg

Still looking for the scoop on this Cindy interview - I think it was horsechit and false advertising.

I truly believe there's a reason KG and Gavin are ex's - http://i43.tinypic.com/2j69wso.gif JMO! :cool:

The reason is - he cheated on her. He was having an affair with some woman, who I think worked in his office. Can't be sure, but there was definitely an affair.

Gator

[javahog]

LMFAO May those camels also spit on him!

KG doesn't use her new hubby's name like she did Gavin's. Wonder why. (Yeah, I'm a yenta.)

I think Gavin taught her some important lessons: it costs a lot to reprint cards with a new name, trust no one, nothing lasts forever, don't let your husband near his best friend's wife...oh, the things she learned!

[One2Snoop]

The reason is - he cheated on her. He was having an affair with some woman, who I think worked in his office. Can't be sure, but there was definitely an affair.

Gator

Yup I knew that - there was also the 19 year old waitress or was she 21 LOL.

Sorry that last line in my previous post was just my attempt at a little humor - sometimes it just doesn't come off that way. Bad on me. :punch:

[Gatordog]

I think alot of the snafu has to do with people like Murt and gang who think they're entitled to go to Caylee's memorial service - Have you seen where they were talking about recording the service? :eek: I don't think G&C should have a public service - they need to grieve in their own time and their own way and keep Caylee's service private.

JMO.

There was going to be two services, one which would be for the public to attend and one just for the family and friends. At this point, it's been so long they should just have the family private service. I think people should just gather together at Lake Eola Park, (big park downtown) on a Sunday morning and release pink and white balloons and leave toys to be donated to children. Maybe even plant a beautiful tree in her memory - one that blossoms in the spring. I don't want to attend an "event" planned by Cindy where there's her choice of music and she can exclude people from attending a "public" service.

Gator

[javahog]

There was going to be two services, one which would be for the public to attend and one just for the family and friends. At this point, it's been so long they should just have the family private service. I think people should just gather together at Lake Eola Park, (big park downtown) on a Sunday morning and release pink and white balloons and leave toys to be donated to children. Maybe even plant a beautiful tree in her memory - one that blossoms in the spring. I don't want to attend an "event" planned by Cindy where there's her choice of music and she can exclude people from attending a "public" service.

Gator

A jacaranda-beautiful purple flowers in spring. I think for all sides a public memorial is now a bad idea: too much chance for it to go real bad...

[Gatordog]

Okay I am going strictly on memory of a video that I saw somewhere, I will try to find it in a bit, and post a link to it, the video that is. Anyway, I remember a conflict between the A's, newscrews, some people, and then LP was there along with his people, in a park. It involved a sign that George said that he had made and was stolen. Cindy got into it with the newspeople.

http://vodpod.com/watch/1165572-padilla-blasts-cindy-anthonydoesnt-like-anthony-family

http://vodpod.com/watch/1165572-padilla-blasts-cindy-anthonydoesnt-like-anthony-family

My point with this is that people are going to do what they do. Noone had any control over this. The biggest problem is that if the A's want a memorial service with the remains, then I would suggest that they do not advertise it and just do it. Because the reality is that anyone can hold a memorial service and they can't control it.

Hi NA - this was filmed at Jay Blanchard Park. Padilla had divers searching the river for Caylee's body. He said that the next day, before the diving search, he wanted to hold a memorial service for Caylee with Richard Grund. They were just going to say prayers at the river, which is a beautiful location. Cindy and the Kid Finders people stomped over to the park to confront Padilla and George went too. Cindy yelled and had fits and the KidFinders president who has a criminal past of his own, got physical and blew the whole thing out of proportion. If they hadn't gone to the park and created a scene for the news people, this little service would have come and gone without any attention.

Gator

[Gatordog]

Yup I knew that - there was also the 19 year old waitress or was she 21 LOL.

Sorry that last line in my previous post was just my attempt at a little humor - sometimes it just doesn't come off that way. Bad on me. :punch:

Sorry, it's my fault. I'm at work http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-chores015.gif (http://www.freesmileys.org) so I have my serious hat on http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-fc/toff.gif (http://www.freesmileys.org), when I'm home, I have my funny hat on. :hat:

Gator

[javahog]

Okay, here's something I don't get:

ZG is suing CAsey for defamation. Casey is countersuing ZG, but what is her grounds? What did this "not that" Zenaida do to her?

[Gatordog]

Now that is a lovely idea. I think Caylee would luv that. :rose:

Maybe I need to do some undercover work and see if we can get something going. Maybe even in Jay Blanchard Park. When Nicole Ganguzza was murdered, they planted a tree in her honor at the YMCA in JB Park.

Gator

[Gatordog]

Okay, here's something I don't get:

ZG is suing CAsey for defamation. Casey is countersuing ZG, but what is her grounds? What did this "not that" Zenaida do to her?

This will make you chuckle - on the grounds that it's a frivilous law suit because she's not the right ZG. :rolleyes:

Gator

[Gatordog]

I think i will be a brain surgeon today :hat: I think a few of the A's could use a lobotomy :D Me bad

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[javahog]

This will make you chuckle - on the grounds that it's a frivilous law suit because she's not the right ZG. :rolleyes:

Gator

Okay, I'm chuckling!

I was thinking: if Casey takes the fifth on the depo, and her countersuit is thrown out and ZG wins hers by default, would that give ZG and her attorney access to financial information, such as the funds being used to Casey's defense and their source?

I am wondering, because if, say hypothetically:rolleyes:, a "broker" of "true stories" is bankrolling this, then there must be a deal/contract of some sort, no? Hence money. Or, if images have been sold and money banked to pay for the defense, same deal?

There has to be a reason JB cares, and that reason must have something to do with his wallet, imo.

[Gatordog]

Hey, I just thought of this -

What do George, Cindy and Casey Anthony have in common with the Wizard of Oz? One needs courage, one needs a brain and one needs a heart!

http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-basic/wiggle.gif (http://www.freesmileys.org)

Gator

[javahog]

Hey, I just thought of this -

What do George, Cindy and Casey Anthony have in common with the Wizard of Oz? One needs courage, one needs a brain and one needs a heart!

http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-basic/wiggle.gif (http://www.freesmileys.org)

Gator

...and their little dog, too! :)

[Gatordog]

Okay, I'm chuckling!

I was thinking: if Casey takes the fifth on the depo, and her countersuit is thrown out and ZG wins hers by default, would that give ZG and her attorney access to financial information, such as the funds being used to Casey's defense and their source?

I am wondering, because if, say hypothetically:rolleyes:, a "broker" of "true stories" is bankrolling this, then there must be a deal/contract of some sort, no? Hence money. Or, if images have been sold and money banked to pay for the defense, same deal?

There has to be a reason JB cares, and that reason must have something to do with his wallet, imo.

Excellent deduction - http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-char145.gif (http://www.freesmileys.org)