Caylee Anthony Case Discussion Only

[Amy]

Mu, I think one of the biggest hurtles the defense is going to have is the first thing LE will use in their opening statement...That this girl never told ANYONE for 30 days that her child was 'missing'. That's a loooooooooong time. Second is going to be what she was DOING during those 30 days, INSTEAD of LOOKING for her child...um...lets see......
Dancin
Screwin
Watching movies
Hangin out
Shopping on my friend's dime
Smokin reefer
Drinkin
Workin...........not
Computerin

What have I missed?

Cell phoning, texting, driving and driving and running out of gas. And, I guess, buying take out pizza.

[Amy]

I have a question.

Has anyone seen anything about any interview that was done with Annie Dowling/Annie Downing?

I have searched and hunted and can't come up with anything other than speculation and nothing.

All the posts I ever read seem to show that her interview has never been released in any of the doc dumps. So, I guess that interview may contain some information they aren't going to release, to be used @ trial?

[Amy]

I thought Tony was the idiot who posted the chloroform cartoon thing. (?) And isn't he out of the loop or off the pros list of witnesses? RM was the other boyfriend. Wait a minute, please help me here.

I'm pretty sure it was Ricardo, the one they just got thru questioning again. IIRC, that is why they questioned him again.

[Sunbug70]

Former poster/long time lurker here, hello everyone. :seeya:

People are all discussing where the liar went during her days as it was obviously NOT to work. I'm wondering too about how she managed to make any money. We know she stole money, but surely she didn't steal ALL of her spending cash.

My thought is: Could she have been spending her days selling drugs? Driving around, Caylee contained in the carseat, making some sales or deliveries? She was into the drug scene, we know that. She spent time doing something?

[browneyes106]

http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk252/sasi2006/Caylee%20Marie%20Anthony/fdcbdd01.jpg

This is Annie

[Twinners]

Finally! They're suspending sales of the Caylee doll!

Caylee Anthony doll suspended

JACKSONVILLE, FL (WFLX) - A Jacksonville promotions company had people shaking their heads in disgust after they tried to sell a doll inspired by slain toddler Caylee Marie Anthony. The company now says the doll has been suspended "after listening to the advice of the general public".

The Inspirational Caylee Sunshine Doll, which plays a song when her bellybutton is pushed, was on sale for $29.99 at cayleedoll.com.

The press release on CayleeDoll.com says:

It was our intention to begin the sale of the Sunshine Caylee Doll at 12:00 p.m. January 27, 2009. As we mentioned to the media in our press release, it was very important that we allow the press to present our idea to the public first in an effort to measure the reaction to our fund raising efforts. As the story developed, we also announced that we would be donating 100 percent of the profits to charity. However, after reviewing the response to our media introduction of the Sunshine Caylee Doll and listening to the advice of the general public, we feel that is it best to suspend the launch of The Sunshine Caylee Doll.

While we still feel it is important to raise awareness and raise money to help stop this type of crime from being committed. We feel we can be more effective using more traditional methods.

We would like to thank everyone who made comments or called us to express their opinion.

Jaime Salcedo
President
Showbiz Promotions

Before the company announced the suspension of the doll, the lawyer representing Caylee's grandparents, George and Cindy Anthony, was outraged.

"This is an example of another person trying to profit from the tragedy of Caylee's death," lawyer Brad Conway said. "He has never met my clients, spoken to my clients and has not gotten authority of any type to do this. And after I have a chance to research it, I will likely take whatever legal action I can."

The blond, 18-inch doll wore jeans and a t-shirt depicting a sun and the phrase: "CAYLEE SUNSHINE." The song "You Are My Sunshine" played when her stomach is pushed.

Showbiz Promotions is already the center of an active civil investigation by the state Attorney General's Office. The allegation: Consumers ordered and paid for merchandise from two Web sites, but never received anything.

One of those sites sells a "Vick Dog Chew Toy" for $7.77.

The site is still selling "Caylee Sunshine" t-shirts, bracelets and stickers.

Caylee's mother, Casey Anthony, is accused of killing her daughter, who would have turned 3 in August, and the 22-year-old mother remains at the Orange County Jail on first-degree murder and other charges.

http://www.wflxfox29.com/Global/story.asp?S=9739397&nav=menu98_3

[Sunbug70]

http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk252/sasi2006/Caylee%20Marie%20Anthony/fdcbdd01.jpg

This is Annie

Notice poor little Caylee in the carseat in the back :(

[Twinners]

And don't forget, Lee has done his own investigation! Even a jakeleg PI like him will have to come to accept the circumstantial evidence when faced with the fact that he found nada to implicate anyone else.

I know! I completely agree that he will have to come to accept the evidence against Casey. Up until now, I think I thought he already had!

I thought this statement from his attorney on Greta last night was interesting.

LUKA: I do not think he was fooled by her.

I take that back. First of all, we are talking about Casey Anthony, not Caylee Anthony. Casey Anthony, my client does admit that Casey did bend the truth and did lie in the past, and that she has done that.

However, there is a big stretch between knowing your sister is a liar and then thinking that she might have murdered or daughter. I don't think that Mr. Anthony is at that point yet, even to this day, that he's willing to accept that fact, that his sister is responsible for his niece's death.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,483416,00.html

I like the way he says Lee isn't ready to accept it yet. That, to me, seems much better than saying she didn't do it at all, as the Anthony's have.

[applesandorange]

Notice poor little Caylee in the carseat in the back :(


I hadn't seen her before. Thanks for pointing her out. How can Casey be smiling in that pic with Caylee fussing (she looks like she is anyway) in the car seat in back of her? :(

[applesandorange]

I know! I completely agree that he will have to come to accept the evidence against Casey. Up until now, I think I thought he already had!

I thought this statement from his attorney on Greta last night was interesting.

LUKA: I do not think he was fooled by her.

I take that back. First of all, we are talking about Casey Anthony, not Caylee Anthony. Casey Anthony, my client does admit that Casey did bend the truth and did lie in the past, and that she has done that.

However, there is a big stretch between knowing your sister is a liar and then thinking that she might have murdered or daughter. I don't think that Mr. Anthony is at that point yet, even to this day, that he's willing to accept that fact, that his sister is responsible for his niece's death.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,483416,00.html

I like the way he says Lee isn't ready to accept it yet. That, to me, seems much better than saying she didn't do it at all, as the Anthony's have.


I agree. I'm glad he didn't deny Casey did it. Maybe he is setting the stage for Lee to "accept" it.

[Gatordog]

I have to go to sleep and having a hard time keeping up with threads. Please answer 2 questions when you have a chance

Do we still think Casey acted alone?
Do we yet have info on Caylee;s read biological father? sorry if the printing looks wierd it has not been normal since I had it fixed. TIA sara

My Opinion is yes
and the second answer is no

Gator

[Sunbug70]

I hadn't seen her before. Thanks for pointing her out. How can Casey be smiling in that pic with Caylee fussing (she looks like she is anyway) in the car seat in back of her? :(

I'm guessing because she didn't care and my thoughts are she used that car seat as a babysitter frequently. I've seen mention on here that perhaps Caylee actually died while in the car seat. I am not thinking that could be the case as the body releases bodily urine/stool at the moment of death. (correct me if I'm wrong)

I'm sure the seat has been tested. LE had a reason to tear that house apart with the numerous searches. IMHO they were looking at the Anth home as the place of death. :(

[Gatordog]

So, it is a COMPANY, not the A's who is promoting this doll. He hasn't decided what charity will receive the profits, but it does not list the A's on the list of organizations he has been in contact with. To listen to the folks on tv, you would think this is all the A's idea, and that THEY are planning to profit on this.

Nothing that I've seem implicated the Anthonys in any way. It was always portrayed as a Jacksonville company who was producing these. It's the same idiot who put out a line of Michael Vick dog toys. Another waste of human organs.

Gator

[Gatordog]

http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk252/sasi2006/Caylee%20Marie%20Anthony/fdcbdd01.jpg

This is Annie

http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-shocked013.gif (http://www.freesmileys.org)

Hey, that's the hat that Garbage Lorraine took out of the Anthony's trash when the Liar was home on bail. It has a big knife cut in the back of the hat!

Gator

[joekuhl79]

Me,too. I hope this project goes so belly up that he has to close his doors.


Salcedo said the public does not understand what it costs to make the doll, ship it, import it, and his company's expenses.

I don't know what this has to do with the price of eggs. I didn't see anything in the article that was hitting him on the PRICE of the doll--seems like a lot of dolls go for that. Or, where they were criticizing how much of each doll goes to charity. So, what does our understanding of his costs have to do with anything? I think he missed the boat--the criticism won't come from these 2 issues, it will come because of just what he said--it is MORBID and difficult for the public, whether the doll is an exact likeness or not. THE NAME of the doll puts it right there. IMO


What a horrible horrible idea! I don't usually like to wish bad things on people, but I'll make an exception here. I hope this doll (did I mention it's a horrible idea?) ruins this guy financially.

I cannot imagine anyone who would decide to make a doll as a 'tribute' to a murdered child. I cannot imagine anyone thinking there would be a market for this kind of doll. I cannot imagine ANYONE would want to buy one!


I really hope that NOT A SINGLE doll sells!

[Gatordog]

[QUOTE=applesandorange;9157738]

I thought it was the trash bag lady who was going through the hefty bags on the Anthony's sidewalk who said that. She was a piece of trash herself for doing that. How DARE people!? There was some bad blood between Cindy and her, wasn't there? I know Cindy was a bigot, and pushed some people to the limit, but that lady was the scum of the earth IMO anyway.

There were a lot of trashy folks on their lawn during the protests too, and I can't believe the police allowed that. Some of our laws do need to be changed. That was a total invasion and unacceptable behavior. To be intruded upon that way, during such a time is beyond horrible.

You put your trash out on the sidewalk and it's abandoned property. There is no law against taking it. She only did it because she felt the police should be looking through it for some sort of evidence that could have been thrown away. She was right. The only time that I know of when they came face to face was when Lorraine went back the next garbage day and took a bag and Cindy came running out of the house.

Now think about it. Cindy's sitting in her house watching the closed circuit tv camera that they installed outside of the house. Why put the garbage out so early? Why not wait until you saw the truck on the street and then take it out?

Gator

[Gatordog]

Just some thoughts here, basically me thinking out loud.

Gator, I went back and looked at aerial pictures of the area, and there is a small lake, pond on the other side of the woods from where the remains were found. So that could suggest that there may have been gators that traveled the area at times.

Lee Anthony--I went back and listened to the interview audio that he did with LE. He came across at times as being flippant but there were other times when someone listening could tell that he was angry. He did tell LE that Casey is a known liar and thief.

The burial--Actually that is something that they really can't plan until the defense lawyer releases the remains which is something that he likely won't do until all the toxicology reports are back. That way they know if they need to redo any testing or even do any different testing. Forensically speaking it is best if they can do that on remains that haven't been tampered with. I know that I watched an interview with the A's attorney and he said at that time that he was expecting the release to come in early February.

George--poor George. I do have to admit that I feel a little sorry for him.

I think that is it for the moment...back to sleuthing and seeing what else I missed while sleeping.

That's a retention pond for water runoff from rain. It's surrounded by a 6 foot tall chainlink fence. It's basically on school property so if a gator had ever been detected, Fish and Wildlife would have removed it.

Gator

[joekuhl79]

Finally! They're suspending sales of the Caylee doll!

Caylee Anthony doll suspended

JACKSONVILLE, FL (WFLX) - A Jacksonville promotions company had people shaking their heads in disgust after they tried to sell a doll inspired by slain toddler Caylee Marie Anthony. The company now says the doll has been suspended "after listening to the advice of the general public".

The Inspirational Caylee Sunshine Doll, which plays a song when her bellybutton is pushed, was on sale for $29.99 at cayleedoll.com.

The press release on CayleeDoll.com says:

It was our intention to begin the sale of the Sunshine Caylee Doll at 12:00 p.m. January 27, 2009. As we mentioned to the media in our press release, it was very important that we allow the press to present our idea to the public first in an effort to measure the reaction to our fund raising efforts. As the story developed, we also announced that we would be donating 100 percent of the profits to charity. However, after reviewing the response to our media introduction of the Sunshine Caylee Doll and listening to the advice of the general public, we feel that is it best to suspend the launch of The Sunshine Caylee Doll.

While we still feel it is important to raise awareness and raise money to help stop this type of crime from being committed. We feel we can be more effective using more traditional methods.

We would like to thank everyone who made comments or called us to express their opinion.

Jaime Salcedo
President
Showbiz Promotions

Before the company announced the suspension of the doll, the lawyer representing Caylee's grandparents, George and Cindy Anthony, was outraged.

"This is an example of another person trying to profit from the tragedy of Caylee's death," lawyer Brad Conway said. "He has never met my clients, spoken to my clients and has not gotten authority of any type to do this. And after I have a chance to research it, I will likely take whatever legal action I can."

The blond, 18-inch doll wore jeans and a t-shirt depicting a sun and the phrase: "CAYLEE SUNSHINE." The song "You Are My Sunshine" played when her stomach is pushed.

Showbiz Promotions is already the center of an active civil investigation by the state Attorney General's Office. The allegation: Consumers ordered and paid for merchandise from two Web sites, but never received anything.

One of those sites sells a "Vick Dog Chew Toy" for $7.77.

The site is still selling "Caylee Sunshine" t-shirts, bracelets and stickers.

Caylee's mother, Casey Anthony, is accused of killing her daughter, who would have turned 3 in August, and the 22-year-old mother remains at the Orange County Jail on first-degree murder and other charges.

http://www.wflxfox29.com/Global/story.asp?S=9739397&nav=menu98_3

I just went to the website and saw this. Good!

Although I did change my mind on the doll...I think we should buy them up and send them to Liar so she has company in her cell!

[eatcupcakes]

Cell phoning, texting, driving and driving and running out of gas. And, I guess, buying take out pizza.


Number 1 s/b Lying, she did that the most.

[Gatordog]

[QUOTE=applesandorange;9157738]

I thought it was the trash bag lady who was going through the hefty bags on the Anthony's sidewalk who said that. She was a piece of trash herself for doing that. How DARE people!? There was some bad blood between Cindy and her, wasn't there? I know Cindy was a bigot, and pushed some people to the limit, but that lady was the scum of the earth IMO anyway.

There were a lot of trashy folks on their lawn during the protests too, and I can't believe the police allowed that. Some of our laws do need to be changed. That was a total invasion and unacceptable behavior. To be intruded upon that way, during such a time is beyond horrible.

As for the people who were outside of the Anthony's house - it really had nothing to do with C&G. The protests started once the Liar got home on bail. No one wanted her out of jail. The protesters were actually on city property and according to LE as long as the number was under 50, they did not need a permit and they could not go on Anthony property. The minute that piece of waste was thrown back in jail, the protesters disappeared. Plus Cindy always came out of the house to confront them. Stay in the house for crying out loud. She was just as bad. She just egged them on. If someone is outside of my house at 1 a.m. you think I'm going to go outside with a baseball bat? I would call the police. Plus this is a rumor not known fact to me, but those protesters who were out there at 1 a.m. supposedly went to school with the Liar so they were taking great joy in taunting her.

Not condoning it but those protesters got LE moving on getting the Liar back in jail.

Gator

[eatcupcakes]

Just a thought. I think the Liar put Caylee in the wooded area when she paniced because her father wanted to get into the trunk of her car. She was planning on moving it but got arrested.

So when Lee visited her at the jail, she was telling him in code where Caylee was, saying I feel she is close, and wanted him to move her. I am sure he knew about the area and that it was a place they burried their pets. Instead he started the rumor that Caylee's body was in the wooded area with the hopes someone would go and find her. If I were him I would not want to go near the place. This is something that he should have told LE and by not doing so he could be charged with withholding evidence. Anyway it is just and idea I had.

[Justice Denied?]

Mu, I think one of the biggest hurtles the defense is going to have is the first thing LE will use in their opening statement...That this girl never told ANYONE for 30 days that her child was 'missing'. That's a loooooooooong time. Second is going to be what she was DOING during those 30 days, INSTEAD of LOOKING for her child...um...lets see......
Dancin
Screwin
Watching movies
Hangin out
Shopping on my friend's dime
Smokin reefer
Drinkin
Workin...........not
Computerin

What have I missed?

How about text messaging and talking on the phone? Sorry, couldn't resist! LOL

[Native Alien]

That's a retention pond for water runoff from rain. It's surrounded by a 6 foot tall chainlink fence. It's basically on school property so if a gator had ever been detected, Fish and Wildlife would have removed it.

Gator

Okay I see where you are talking about.

[lorettalockhorn]

Just a thought. I think the Liar put Caylee in the wooded area when she paniced because her father wanted to get into the trunk of her car. She was planning on moving it but got arrested.

So when Lee visited her at the jail, she was telling him in code where Caylee was, saying I feel she is close, and wanted him to move her. I am sure he knew about the area and that it was a place they burried their pets. Instead he started the rumor that Caylee's body was in the wooded area with the hopes someone would go and find her. If I were him I would not want to go near the place. This is something that he should have told LE and by not doing so he could be charged with withholding evidence. Anyway it is just and idea I had.

Interesting, except I honestly don't think that Lee would have wanted Caylee to be found so close to home. Unless he thought that the nearby Zenaida and Fernandez, and Gonzales names would cast suspicion on the owner/occupants of those homes.

The Anthony family as a whole strikes me as so deceitful, there may not ever be any figuring them out. But even if Lee had the slightest inkling that The Zone or that area in general was where Caylee would be found, he should have reported that to LE.

[Gatordog]

The plans for the Caylee Maried Doll are over. There will not be a doll for sale.

http://www.clickorlando.com/money/18573828/detail.html

[Justice Denied?]

this just might come back and bite the defense in the butt. He , RM, may have sent that email to Casey because he knew she was trying to find out how to make Chloroform to knock Caylee out so she could go have fun. That my be why he found it so amusing. If he gets pushed to the wall and admits this, Casey is totally done in my opinion. I hope I am right.

I know that they said he had been cleared, but maybe Richardo had chloroform or had access to it. Maybe Casey got the chloroform she used on Caylee from him, either bought or stole. Heah, she had to get it somewhere. LE said it was pure, not homemade.

[Gatordog]

The Liar doesn't want to have to go to court on Friday but Judge Strickland says she has to be there. :D

http://www.wesh.com/news/18575471/detail.html

[jas72]

Since it was Cindy's phone call that put all this in motion, I often wonder how much longer Casey's charade would have continued. How long did Casey think she could hide the fact that Caylee was "kidnapped" and that she was pursuing her own investigation? You would think that she would have told about the "kidnapping" a lot sooner than she did if she really wanted people to believe that that's what happened. The fact that she didn't put that story out there until her mother called police speaks volumes to most of us, I'm sure. It was then that she knew the jig was up and she had to fabricate the nanny story. Also chilling is how she could just go about her business and no one could even tell that something was wrong.
I guess we all think we know how this will turn out, but what fascinates us is to actually see someone who did something so diabolical and put on such a seemingly calm and with-it public persona.

[Justice Denied?]

Former poster/long time lurker here, hello everyone. :seeya:

People are all discussing where the liar went during her days as it was obviously NOT to work. I'm wondering too about how she managed to make any money. We know she stole money, but surely she didn't steal ALL of her spending cash.

My thought is: Could she have been spending her days selling drugs? Driving around, Caylee contained in the carseat, making some sales or deliveries? She was into the drug scene, we know that. She spent time doing something?

I have also wondered if she worked part time as an escort, especially when she had nighttime events. Of course, that wouldn't explain what she did with Caylee at those times.

[One2Snoop]

Artist sells Casey Anthony voodoo dolls
Amy L. Edwards | Sentinel Staff Writer
12:43 PM EST, January 27, 2009

http://i44.tinypic.com/w1s85u.jpg

The same week that a promotions company announced its plans to sell a doll inspired by slain toddler Caylee Marie Anthony, someone is selling three voodoo dolls of the girl's mother on eBay.

Three Casey Anthony voodoo dolls are for sale on the popular Web site, starting at $19.99.

A description of the priciest doll, with a starting bid of $29.99, is made by a New Orleans artist who is a "studied, practiced and renound (sic) Spiritual Healer; Gemologist and Jeweler. Equally engages in healing and spiritual craftmaking, (sic) and in designing and manufacturing spiritual (sic) and uniquie (sic) jewel crafts (emphasis on Voodoo Dolls and Dreamcatchers).

The $29.99 doll states it is signed by the artist, who is unnamed, and is accompanied by handcuffs, a Bible and white sunglasses.

One of the voodoo dolls, which appears to be made out of money, is called the "New Orleans Casey Anthony Mad Money Voodoo Doll." The other is called "Sing the Blues."

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/orl-bk-casey-anthony-voodoo-doll-012709,0,3137743.story

[Justice Denied?]

Number 1 s/b Lying, she did that the most.

Good one, cupcake!:D:biggrin::D

[Gatordog]

Artist sells Casey Anthony voodoo dolls
Amy L. Edwards | Sentinel Staff Writer
12:43 PM EST, January 27, 2009

http://i44.tinypic.com/w1s85u.jpg

The same week that a promotions company announced its plans to sell a doll inspired by slain toddler Caylee Marie Anthony, someone is selling three voodoo dolls of the girl's mother on eBay.

Three Casey Anthony voodoo dolls are for sale on the popular Web site, starting at $19.99.

A description of the priciest doll, with a starting bid of $29.99, is made by a New Orleans artist who is a "studied, practiced and renound (sic) Spiritual Healer; Gemologist and Jeweler. Equally engages in healing and spiritual craftmaking, (sic) and in designing and manufacturing spiritual (sic) and uniquie (sic) jewel crafts (emphasis on Voodoo Dolls and Dreamcatchers).

The $29.99 doll states it is signed by the artist, who is unnamed, and is accompanied by handcuffs, a Bible and white sunglasses.

One of the voodoo dolls, which appears to be made out of money, is called the "New Orleans Casey Anthony Mad Money Voodoo Doll." The other is called "Sing the Blues."

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/orl-bk-casey-anthony-voodoo-doll-012709,0,3137743.story

Quick somebody - give me a pin!

Gator

[Justice Denied?]

Artist sells Casey Anthony voodoo dolls
Amy L. Edwards | Sentinel Staff Writer
12:43 PM EST, January 27, 2009

http://i44.tinypic.com/w1s85u.jpg

The same week that a promotions company announced its plans to sell a doll inspired by slain toddler Caylee Marie Anthony, someone is selling three voodoo dolls of the girl's mother on eBay.

Three Casey Anthony voodoo dolls are for sale on the popular Web site, starting at $19.99.

A description of the priciest doll, with a starting bid of $29.99, is made by a New Orleans artist who is a "studied, practiced and renound (sic) Spiritual Healer; Gemologist and Jeweler. Equally engages in healing and spiritual craftmaking, (sic) and in designing and manufacturing spiritual (sic) and uniquie (sic) jewel crafts (emphasis on Voodoo Dolls and Dreamcatchers).

The $29.99 doll states it is signed by the artist, who is unnamed, and is accompanied by handcuffs, a Bible and white sunglasses.

One of the voodoo dolls, which appears to be made out of money, is called the "New Orleans Casey Anthony Mad Money Voodoo Doll." The other is called "Sing the Blues."

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/orl-bk-casey-anthony-voodoo-doll-012709,0,3137743.story

OOOH, I want one. I want to wrap its head in duct tape and put it in a garbage bag. Then, I'll stick pins in it!

[Sunbug70]

I have also wondered if she worked part time as an escort, especially when she had nighttime events. Of course, that wouldn't explain what she did with Caylee at those times.

I was thinking that could be a possibility also. Perhaps she left Caylee in the car? Maybe those were the times she "gave her some baby medicine" to help her go to sleep?

She had to have been getting some spending cash somewhere as well as spending her days doing something. What?

:shrug:

[Justice Denied?]

Escort or Hooker? Seems to me she was rather giving it out for free. Maybe she traded somethin else?


I'm sorry ~ that wasn't nice........:rolleyes:

Heah, I was trying to be nice. That means you have to too. You do have a point there. I'd be willing to bet she hung with guys willing to share their stash and never bought her own.

[Gatordog]

Thanks Gator!!


Waaaaaaaaa! Too Bad Casey. You started this.

Another little tidbit out of that link is that they are Showing the hearing live on Friday, on WESH.com...........(they didn't say what time though).

I'll bring the biscotti, popcorn and rice crispy treats! Loretta can bring the Stolie and her fkn hat! Gator, the zucchini foccacia ~you can also bring Pee Pee, LOL and Kiwi. Dan, how about a meatball hero? One2 whatcha want to bring? All the rest of ya just bring somethin GOOD!

Doesn't matter if the hearing isn't 'all that'..we might as well have fun while we're being 'tortured' seeing her smirky mug! :beer:

OS, that was too funny. http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-laughing017.gif (http://www.freesmileys.org)

Gator

[Gatordog]

We could all make Liar dolls and have a contest to see who made the best or should I say worst one. :biggrin:

Gator

[cece5300]

If she WAS an escort/hooker/anything like that, wouldn't someone have stepped up already to say something? It just seems like SO many people connected to the case seem to have NO desire to get justice for Caylee.

[joekuhl79]

I know that they said he had been cleared, but maybe Richardo had chloroform or had access to it. Maybe Casey got the chloroform she used on Caylee from him, either bought or stole. Heah, she had to get it somewhere. LE said it was pure, not homemade.

The thing about RM's "Win her over with chloroform"...it wasn't an email to anyone...correct? It was a post on his MySpace or Facebook...which that in itself means nothing. People post messages to my Myspace with "Happy humpday" or whatever, but I do not believe for a minute that they want to do anything more that entertain(?) me with a funny picture or something.

To read anything into what RM posted is pointless. He was not 'sending her a message' or anything like that. He didn't create that...those things go around the internet, someone see's it, thinks it's funny, and posts it...

Now that's not to say that Liar didn't see that and a lightbulb went off in her head...

[lorettalockhorn]

The Liar doesn't want to have to go to court on Friday but Judge Strickland says she has to be there. :D

http://www.wesh.com/news/18575471/detail.html


Tee You Uff Uff!

Thanks Gator!!


Waaaaaaaaa! Too Bad Casey. You started this.

Another little tidbit out of that link is that they are Showing the hearing live on Friday, on WESH.com...........(they didn't say what time though).

I'll bring the biscotti, popcorn and rice crispy treats! Loretta can bring the Stolie and her fkn hat! Gator, the zucchini foccacia ~you can also bring Pee Pee, LOL and Kiwi. Dan, how about a meatball hero? One2 whatcha want to bring? All the rest of ya just bring somethin GOOD!

Doesn't matter if the hearing isn't 'all that'..we might as well have fun while we're being 'tortured' seeing her smirky mug! :beer:

hehehe How's about I bring some stoli and just my big hair, big mouth and big thirst?

[Amy]

Finally! They're suspending sales of the Caylee doll!

Caylee Anthony doll suspended

JACKSONVILLE, FL (WFLX) - A Jacksonville promotions company had people shaking their heads in disgust after they tried to sell a doll inspired by slain toddler Caylee Marie Anthony. The company now says the doll has been suspended "after listening to the advice of the general public".

The Inspirational Caylee Sunshine Doll, which plays a song when her bellybutton is pushed, was on sale for $29.99 at cayleedoll.com.

The press release on CayleeDoll.com says:

It was our intention to begin the sale of the Sunshine Caylee Doll at 12:00 p.m. January 27, 2009. As we mentioned to the media in our press release, it was very important that we allow the press to present our idea to the public first in an effort to measure the reaction to our fund raising efforts. As the story developed, we also announced that we would be donating 100 percent of the profits to charity. However, after reviewing the response to our media introduction of the Sunshine Caylee Doll and listening to the advice of the general public, we feel that is it best to suspend the launch of The Sunshine Caylee Doll.

While we still feel it is important to raise awareness and raise money to help stop this type of crime from being committed. We feel we can be more effective using more traditional methods.

We would like to thank everyone who made comments or called us to express their opinion.

Jaime Salcedo
President
Showbiz Promotions

Before the company announced the suspension of the doll, the lawyer representing Caylee's grandparents, George and Cindy Anthony, was outraged.

"This is an example of another person trying to profit from the tragedy of Caylee's death," lawyer Brad Conway said. "He has never met my clients, spoken to my clients and has not gotten authority of any type to do this. And after I have a chance to research it, I will likely take whatever legal action I can."

The blond, 18-inch doll wore jeans and a t-shirt depicting a sun and the phrase: "CAYLEE SUNSHINE." The song "You Are My Sunshine" played when her stomach is pushed.

Showbiz Promotions is already the center of an active civil investigation by the state Attorney General's Office. The allegation: Consumers ordered and paid for merchandise from two Web sites, but never received anything.

One of those sites sells a "Vick Dog Chew Toy" for $7.77.

The site is still selling "Caylee Sunshine" t-shirts, bracelets and stickers.

Caylee's mother, Casey Anthony, is accused of killing her daughter, who would have turned 3 in August, and the 22-year-old mother remains at the Orange County Jail on first-degree murder and other charges.

http://www.wflxfox29.com/Global/story.asp?S=9739397&nav=menu98_3

Silver tongued devil, that Mr Salcedo is. Hmmm.....don't you check public reaction BEFORE you announce the distribution date? You whine about how the public just doesn't know all that goes into producing, shipping, marketing a doll? Well, ya woulda saved yourself a few buck if you had actually tested the waters BEFORE you had dolls ready for sale.

Wonder how many of those dolls he will eat? I'm betting he had a HUGE number already made up (since today @ noon was when they would have gone on sale. Of course, if he renames the doll and removes the song and changes the t-shirt, he could probably recoup some of his expenses.

OTOH, looking @ what he is being sued for, possibly he HASN'T already produced any, just waiting for the pre-paid orders to be rolling in, and then not delivering the product, if his other ventures is how he runs his company. I think we WILL be looking @ belly up for this company, but it might not be for lack of sales, but for shady business practices.

Am I to assume the Vick chew toys would be attempting to make a buck off the poor animals abused by Mr Vick and his dog fighting buddies? Geesh--wonder what other tacky products he promotes?

[lorettalockhorn]

Since it was Cindy's phone call that put all this in motion, I often wonder how much longer Casey's charade would have continued. How long did Casey think she could hide the fact that Caylee was "kidnapped" and that she was pursuing her own investigation? You would think that she would have told about the "kidnapping" a lot sooner than she did if she really wanted people to believe that that's what happened. The fact that she didn't put that story out there until her mother called police speaks volumes to most of us, I'm sure. It was then that she knew the jig was up and she had to fabricate the nanny story. Also chilling is how she could just go about her business and no one could even tell that something was wrong.
I guess we all think we know how this will turn out, but what fascinates us is to actually see someone who did something so diabolical and put on such a seemingly calm and with-it public persona.

Good question! It's hard for me to believe that Cindy let Casey get by with BSing her for as long as she did. Wonder at what point Cindy would have reported Caylee missing to LE?

[joekuhl79]

Since it was Cindy's phone call that put all this in motion, I often wonder how much longer Casey's charade would have continued. How long did Casey think she could hide the fact that Caylee was "kidnapped" and that she was pursuing her own investigation? You would think that she would have told about the "kidnapping" a lot sooner than she did if she really wanted people to believe that that's what happened. The fact that she didn't put that story out there until her mother called police speaks volumes to most of us, I'm sure. It was then that she knew the jig was up and she had to fabricate the nanny story. Also chilling is how she could just go about her business and no one could even tell that something was wrong.
I guess we all think we know how this will turn out, but what fascinates us is to actually see someone who did something so diabolical and put on such a seemingly calm and with-it public persona.

Isn't the general consensus that she was planning on getting out of town? California or something? To be with Hawking? I'd bet that she didn't plan on telling mom or dad or Lee or anyone.

Anyone: "What happened to Casey and Caylee?"
Cindy: "I don't know. She got mad at me and they left, and never came back."

[lorettalockhorn]

The thing about RM's "Win her over with chloroform"...it wasn't an email to anyone...correct? It was a post on his MySpace or Facebook...which that in itself means nothing. People post messages to my Myspace with "Happy humpday" or whatever, but I do not believe for a minute that they want to do anything more that entertain(?) me with a funny picture or something.

To read anything into what RM posted is pointless. He was not 'sending her a message' or anything like that. He didn't create that...those things go around the internet, someone see's it, thinks it's funny, and posts it...

Now that's not to say that Liar didn't see that and a lightbulb went off in her head...

If RM was sending Casey a message, then wasn't he also sending everyone that viewed his myspace page a message to?

Seems to me that the chloroform poster was just an exercise in extremely bad taste that RM and his crowd probably thought was funny like using GHB is funny. Pigs.

[Amy]

Former poster/long time lurker here, hello everyone. :seeya:

People are all discussing where the liar went during her days as it was obviously NOT to work. I'm wondering too about how she managed to make any money. We know she stole money, but surely she didn't steal ALL of her spending cash.

My thought is: Could she have been spending her days selling drugs? Driving around, Caylee contained in the carseat, making some sales or deliveries? She was into the drug scene, we know that. She spent time doing something?

I was going to ask who you were back in the day, but remember your other post said you didn't remember your info.

Oh, well, hope we were on the same side, or @ least were able to disagree nicely!! :D

When she was still living @ home, SOME of her "work" was evenings/nights so she could go party. Do wish we had ABSOLUTE information about the hours Cindy worked, and the hours George worked, when he wasn't off on disability. Would also be nice to know ABSOLUTELY when he was off for disability. AND, exactly where Cindy does work. I remember links way back that showed she worked as a supervisor in home health---that usually would be day-time employment, but there is info from her co-workers that Casey would drop Caylee of @ least one evening a week. I wonder if that was because those days Cindy happened to work later than usual? And Casey, of course, had to be to "work" ON TIME?

Anyway, would also be curious as to know HOW MUCH the A's "Caylee sat" on a routine basis? Every day? Every evening? Once in a while? We know the Grunds and Lauren also Caylee sat when she was a wee one.

[eatcupcakes]

Thanks Gator!!


Waaaaaaaaa! Too Bad Casey. You started this.

Another little tidbit out of that link is that they are Showing the hearing live on Friday, on WESH.com...........(they didn't say what time though).

I'll bring the biscotti, popcorn and rice crispy treats! Loretta can bring the Stolie and her fkn hat! Gator, the zucchini foccacia ~you can also bring Pee Pee, LOL and Kiwi. Dan, how about a meatball hero? One2 whatcha want to bring? All the rest of ya just bring somethin GOOD!

Doesn't matter if the hearing isn't 'all that'..we might as well have fun while we're being 'tortured' seeing her smirky mug! :beer:

Hey don't leave me out I'll bring the Cup Cakes. LOL

[Amy]

Nothing that I've seem implicated the Anthonys in any way. It was always portrayed as a Jacksonville company who was producing these. It's the same idiot who put out a line of Michael Vick dog toys. Another waste of human organs.

Gator

The reason I mentioned that was because on the NG show I was watching, NG was asking a TH if the A's would be able to profit from products relating to Caylee. The TH said they could, @ this point, if there wasn't a judge's order to not. NG was very indignant. I tuned in @ the time of this portion of the program, and assumed that they were talking about the A's being behind this. Guess I should have watched the rerun for the whole portion about the doll.

[Amy]

[QUOTE=Danagher;9157741]

You put your trash out on the sidewalk and it's abandoned property. There is no law against taking it. She only did it because she felt the police should be looking through it for some sort of evidence that could have been thrown away. She was right. The only time that I know of when they came face to face was when Lorraine went back the next garbage day and took a bag and Cindy came running out of the house.

Now think about it. Cindy's sitting in her house watching the closed circuit tv camera that they installed outside of the house. Why put the garbage out so early? Why not wait until you saw the truck on the street and then take it out?

Gator

What??? And miss an opportunity for confrontation? lol

[Amy]

[QUOTE=Danagher;9157741]

As for the people who were outside of the Anthony's house - it really had nothing to do with C&G. The protests started once the Liar got home on bail. No one wanted her out of jail. The protesters were actually on city property and according to LE as long as the number was under 50, they did not need a permit and they could not go on Anthony property. The minute that piece of waste was thrown back in jail, the protesters disappeared. Plus Cindy always came out of the house to confront them. Stay in the house for crying out loud. She was just as bad. She just egged them on. If someone is outside of my house at 1 a.m. you think I'm going to go outside with a baseball bat? I would call the police. Plus this is a rumor not known fact to me, but those protesters who were out there at 1 a.m. supposedly went to school with the Liar so they were taking great joy in taunting her.

Not condoning it but those protesters got LE moving on getting the Liar back in jail.

Gator

I'm guessing we can assume (if in fact it was former classmates) that these weren't her friends from all those years who still call her "mom" to this day? :D

[eatcupcakes]

Escort or Hooker? Seems to me she was rather giving it out for free. Maybe she traded somethin else?


I'm sorry ~ that wasn't nice........:rolleyes:

Escort is too nice a word. I think if you was selling it we would have heard about that by now. The Liar has no morals or scrupples so anything is possible. Someone said she might have been dealing drugs and that might just be it. Driving around during the day with Caylee and stopping at parks and dealing. She seemed to be traveling with that type of crowd.

I would love to be a fly on the wall of her jail cell, she has to be going stir crazy. No sex, drugs or dancing. Well I guess there still could be sex.

[Sunbug70]

I was going to ask who you were back in the day, but remember your other post said you didn't remember your info.

Oh, well, hope we were on the same side, or @ least were able to disagree nicely!! :D

When she was still living @ home, SOME of her "work" was evenings/nights so she could go party. Do wish we had ABSOLUTE information about the hours Cindy worked, and the hours George worked, when he wasn't off on disability. Would also be nice to know ABSOLUTELY when he was off for disability. AND, exactly where Cindy does work. I remember links way back that showed she worked as a supervisor in home health---that usually would be day-time employment, but there is info from her co-workers that Casey would drop Caylee of @ least one evening a week. I wonder if that was because those days Cindy happened to work later than usual? And Casey, of course, had to be to "work" ON TIME?

Anyway, would also be curious as to know HOW MUCH the A's "Caylee sat" on a routine basis? Every day? Every evening? Once in a while? We know the Grunds and Lauren also Caylee sat when she was a wee one.


I'm sure we got along just fine Amy. I only posted during the Laci Peterson disapperance and Scotts trial. My user name was something with "mama" and "beach" but for the life of me I can't remember.

At any rate, I do think that the liars evenings "at work" when Cindy and George were watching Caylee gave her plenty of time to find creative ways to earn some extra cash.

I just see no way a person, even with free rent, car, food, etc. such as she seemed to have, could survive years with no income. Even if she stole from family and friends as she did.

[lorettalockhorn]

I was going to ask who you were back in the day, but remember your other post said you didn't remember your info.

Oh, well, hope we were on the same side, or @ least were able to disagree nicely!! :D

When she was still living @ home, SOME of her "work" was evenings/nights so she could go party. Do wish we had ABSOLUTE information about the hours Cindy worked, and the hours George worked, when he wasn't off on disability. Would also be nice to know ABSOLUTELY when he was off for disability. AND, exactly where Cindy does work. I remember links way back that showed she worked as a supervisor in home health---that usually would be day-time employment, but there is info from her co-workers that Casey would drop Caylee of @ least one evening a week. I wonder if that was because those days Cindy happened to work later than usual? And Casey, of course, had to be to "work" ON TIME?

Anyway, would also be curious as to know HOW MUCH the A's "Caylee sat" on a routine basis? Every day? Every evening? Once in a while? We know the Grunds and Lauren also Caylee sat when she was a wee one.

Cindy's license information:

http://ww2.doh.state.fl.us/IRM00PRAES/PRASINDI.ASP?LicId=94605&ProfNBR=1701

Address information at whitepages.com:

Gentiva Health Serviceswork

1375 S Semoran Blvd, Ste 1311

Winter Park, FL 32792-5529

Gentiva:

http://www.gentiva.com/index.asp

Forgot my question: Does anyone know if Cindy still works? Leave of absence? How are they paying their house payment and car payments? Washer and dryer and vacuum payments?

[Amy]

Since it was Cindy's phone call that put all this in motion, I often wonder how much longer Casey's charade would have continued. How long did Casey think she could hide the fact that Caylee was "kidnapped" and that she was pursuing her own investigation? You would think that she would have told about the "kidnapping" a lot sooner than she did if she really wanted people to believe that that's what happened. The fact that she didn't put that story out there until her mother called police speaks volumes to most of us, I'm sure. It was then that she knew the jig was up and she had to fabricate the nanny story. Also chilling is how she could just go about her business and no one could even tell that something was wrong.
I guess we all think we know how this will turn out, but what fascinates us is to actually see someone who did something so diabolical and put on such a seemingly calm and with-it public persona.

I'm betting she would have just let it go as long as she could. There was discussion about her possibly have been planning to get to CA, and she could still tell Cindy that Caylee was asleep or @ the nanny's (of course, w/her stellar record as an event planner, there are ever so many places in CA that would JUMP @ the chance to hire her on!!!!) :cool: IF that was in her plans, I don't think she probably would have tho't that Cindy and George (maybe just Cindy, if money was tight) would have found SOME way to get to CA to see their Caylee. There still would have been the confrontation, but I think Casey would have had to come up with a different story, as it would be probably MONTHS that she did not report a kidnapping. She wouldn't be able to say Caylee had JUST disappeared before they got there, as anyone she would be hanging with, especially if she would be living w/the marine, would KNOW and probably tell Cindy there never was a little girl w/Casey. Well, being Casey, she MIGHT say it, but it would be dumber than saying it in July.

[Amy]

Thanks Gator!!


Waaaaaaaaa! Too Bad Casey. You started this.

Another little tidbit out of that link is that they are Showing the hearing live on Friday, on WESH.com...........(they didn't say what time though).

I'll bring the biscotti, popcorn and rice crispy treats! Loretta can bring the Stolie and her fkn hat! Gator, the zucchini foccacia ~you can also bring Pee Pee, LOL and Kiwi. Dan, how about a meatball hero? One2 whatcha want to bring? All the rest of ya just bring somethin GOOD!

Doesn't matter if the hearing isn't 'all that'..we might as well have fun while we're being 'tortured' seeing her smirky mug! :beer:

I happen to have Friday off (just checked to be sure, my CRS is my schedule, lol) and didn't see any appointments. So, whenever someone finds the time it is to be on, give a holler. Oh, and make sure there is a link, cuz I haven't a clue!!!!!

Will have to think on my offering, probably my fave snack--Cheddar and Sour Cream Ruffles potato chips.

[eatcupcakes]

[QUOTE=applesandorange;9157738]

I thought it was the trash bag lady who was going through the hefty bags on the Anthony's sidewalk who said that. She was a piece of trash herself for doing that. How DARE people!? There was some bad blood between Cindy and her, wasn't there? I know Cindy was a bigot, and pushed some people to the limit, but that lady was the scum of the earth IMO anyway.

There were a lot of trashy folks on their lawn during the protests too, and I can't believe the police allowed that. Some of our laws do need to be changed. That was a total invasion and unacceptable behavior. To be intruded upon that way, during such a time is beyond horrible.

Nothing illegal about going through Garbage. PI's and LE do it all the time. I have done it to. I was working for a company who had owners who were doing something illegal. I was pretty sure of it but had no proof. I found the proof going through the garbage. Gave it to LE and the next thing you know they were in jail. However it was not a pleasant task. One time I got stuck in the dumpster. Lucky I got out before daybreak. :eek:

[Amy]

Quick somebody - give me a pin!

Gator

Now THAT I would pay the $19.99 for!!! (I'm a cheapskate, lol) Got a lot of garbage bags, just bought duct tape for DD a few months ago (for her to use for house repairs, of course!!!) and we ALWAYS have pins--I step on them often enough.

[Mojo]

Thanks Gator!!


Waaaaaaaaa! Too Bad Casey. You started this.

Another little tidbit out of that link is that they are Showing the hearing live on Friday, on WESH.com...........(they didn't say what time though).

I'll bring the biscotti, popcorn and rice crispy treats! Loretta can bring the Stolie and her fkn hat! Gator, the zucchini foccacia ~you can also bring Pee Pee, LOL and Kiwi. Dan, how about a meatball hero? One2 whatcha want to bring? All the rest of ya just bring somethin GOOD!

Doesn't matter if the hearing isn't 'all that'..we might as well have fun while we're being 'tortured' seeing her smirky mug! :beer:


I'll bring the margaritas! :beer:

[lorettalockhorn]

Hey don't leave me out I'll bring the Cup Cakes. LOL

Did someone say CAKE?!

[Amy]

Cindy's license information:

http://ww2.doh.state.fl.us/IRM00PRAES/PRASINDI.ASP?LicId=94605&ProfNBR=1701

Address information at whitepages.com:

Gentiva Health Serviceswork

1375 S Semoran Blvd, Ste 1311

Winter Park, FL 32792-5529

Gentiva:

http://www.gentiva.com/index.asp

Forgot my question: Does anyone know if Cindy still works? Leave of absence? How are they paying their house payment and car payments? Washer and dryer and vacuum payments?

Thanks for the info.

Cindy isn't working now, of course. Whether or not she still has her job--I don't suppose the organization would say she did or not. There are those who say that Cindy IS on disability. Not FEMA, but paid disability. I'm not sure where the poster(s) got the information, nor can I remember if there was a link. Regardless, disability, if she is on that, does not pay as much as being on the job, and if money was tight when she WAS working.....

And, what about George? He had just started a new job (was on orientation) when this all started, and lost that job. Then, sometime into the case, it was reported he had a job, there was mention, I think, even in news articles. But, if he was working security, one would wonder WHEN between running the rolling billboard (with the disconnected number) during the day and confronting protesters @ night. I really don't think he has been working @ least since the trip to LKL.

It could be that some of their creditors might be kind to them, and defer some of the monies due for a while, considering the circumstance? Don't suppose the headlines "GRANDPARENTS OF SLAIN TOT FACE FORECLOSURE" or something like that would reflect well on the creditors. Surely Lee (altho he has purportedly been working all along, does sports promoter or whatever pay good money?) might be helping them out? He is living w/them--and he was renting the other house, if I understand it correctly. So, if he still has an income and it's hefty, he might be doing the payments. (Maybe he padded the expense accounts for reimbursement from the Find Caylee fund?)

[eatcupcakes]

Did someone say CAKE?!


Would you like Red Velvet with Cream Cheese Frosting or Double Chocolate with Chocolate Frosting. All made from scratch I might add. I can put little Casey vodoo dolls on the top and we can bite the heads off. :biggrin:

[One2Snoop]

Thanks Gator!!


Waaaaaaaaa! Too Bad Casey. You started this.

Another little tidbit out of that link is that they are Showing the hearing live on Friday, on WESH.com...........(they didn't say what time though).

I'll bring the biscotti, popcorn and rice crispy treats! Loretta can bring the Stolie and her fkn hat! Gator, the zucchini foccacia ~you can also bring Pee Pee, LOL and Kiwi. Dan, how about a meatball hero? One2 whatcha want to bring? All the rest of ya just bring somethin GOOD!

Doesn't matter if the hearing isn't 'all that'..we might as well have fun while we're being 'tortured' seeing her smirky mug! :beer:

7 layer dip! :seeya: Anyone hear what time on Friday?

[lorettalockhorn]

Thanks for the info.

Cindy isn't working now, of course. Whether or not she still has her job--I don't suppose the organization would say she did or not. There are those who say that Cindy IS on disability. Not FEMA, but paid disability. I'm not sure where the poster(s) got the information, nor can I remember if there was a link. Regardless, disability, if she is on that, does not pay as much as being on the job, and if money was tight when she WAS working.....

And, what about George? He had just started a new job (was on orientation) when this all started, and lost that job. Then, sometime into the case, it was reported he had a job, there was mention, I think, even in news articles. But, if he was working security, one would wonder WHEN between running the rolling billboard (with the disconnected number) during the day and confronting protesters @ night. I really don't think he has been working @ least since the trip to LKL.

It could be that some of their creditors might be kind to them, and defer some of the monies due for a while, considering the circumstance? Don't suppose the headlines "GRANDPARENTS OF SLAIN TOT FACE FORECLOSURE" or something like that would reflect well on the creditors. Surely Lee (altho he has purportedly been working all along, does sports promoter or whatever pay good money?) might be helping them out? He is living w/them--and he was renting the other house, if I understand it correctly. So, if he still has an income and it's hefty, he might be doing the payments. (Maybe he padded the expense accounts for reimbursement from the Find Caylee fund?)

Didn't know that Cindy was on disability, thanks for the heads up. I would hope that Lee is helping them with expenses, especially if they both aren't working. I am concerned about the expense of George's hospitalization and therapy if there is no insurance.

Well, we've heard that Lee is in hot water over some expenses charged to at least one of the Caylee funds. You kinda hate to see so much heaped on this family when they (George at least) might be at a point where honesty and honoring Caylee might become priority one, but would hate to see Lee get away with financial crimes.

[lorettalockhorn]

Would you like Red Velvet with Cream Cheese Frosting or Double Chocolate with Chocolate Frosting. All made from scratch I might add. I can put little Casey vodoo dolls on the top and we can bite the heads off. :biggrin:

Well, both sound good, but if I have to choose one, I'll go with Red Velvet cake with chocolate frosting!! :hat:

[browneyes106]

Former poster/long time lurker here, hello everyone. :seeya:

People are all discussing where the liar went during her days as it was obviously NOT to work. I'm wondering too about how she managed to make any money. We know she stole money, but surely she didn't steal ALL of her spending cash.

My thought is: Could she have been spending her days selling drugs? Driving around, Caylee contained in the carseat, making some sales or deliveries? She was into the drug scene, we know that. She spent time doing something?

Welcome to the boards Sunbug. You have brought up some good points. I too find it impossible that Casey could been stealing money all the time from people. Her being in involved drug sales/deliveries could possible. I read somewhere online that there was comment or message posted on Lee's myspace from Casey telling him not to worry about her job.

I have also wondered if she worked part time as an escort, especially when she had nighttime events. Of course, that wouldn't explain what she did with Caylee at those times.

One theory I have is maybe Casey was friends with benefits for pay for someone. Maybe one of her guy friends ocassionally paid her for sex or maybe bought her things. But there is always the possibility that Casey was once in awhile call girl.

I was thinking that could be a possibility also. Perhaps she left Caylee in the car? Maybe those were the times she "gave her some baby medicine" to help her go to sleep?

She had to have been getting some spending cash somewhere as well as spending her days doing something. What?

:shrug:

If she was doing something shady for cash during the day all would have to do is keep Caylee asleep to do stuff.

If she WAS an escort/hooker/anything like that, wouldn't someone have stepped up already to say something? It just seems like SO many people connected to the case seem to have NO desire to get justice for Caylee.

If Casey was connected with an escort service they might not come forward to LE because then their business would be shut down.

I was going to ask who you were back in the day, but remember your other post said you didn't remember your info.

Oh, well, hope we were on the same side, or @ least were able to disagree nicely!! :D

When she was still living @ home, SOME of her "work" was evenings/nights so she could go party. Do wish we had ABSOLUTE information about the hours Cindy worked, and the hours George worked, when he wasn't off on disability. Would also be nice to know ABSOLUTELY when he was off for disability. AND, exactly where Cindy does work. I remember links way back that showed she worked as a supervisor in home health---that usually would be day-time employment, but there is info from her co-workers that Casey would drop Caylee of @ least one evening a week. I wonder if that was because those days Cindy happened to work later than usual? And Casey, of course, had to be to "work" ON TIME?

Anyway, would also be curious as to know HOW MUCH the A's "Caylee sat" on a routine basis? Every day? Every evening? Once in a while? We know the Grunds and Lauren also Caylee sat when she was a wee one.

I'm sure we got along just fine Amy. I only posted during the Laci Peterson disapperance and Scotts trial. My user name was something with "mama" and "beach" but for the life of me I can't remember.

At any rate, I do think that the liars evenings "at work" when Cindy and George were watching Caylee gave her plenty of time to find creative ways to earn some extra cash.

I just see no way a person, even with free rent, car, food, etc. such as she seemed to have, could survive years with no income. Even if she stole from family and friends as she did.

I agree even though Casey lived rent free and free access to a car and food she would have needed money for other things. Cindy's brother Rick said in his topix posts that Casey used up a lot of Cindy's credit cards and some of her cards were for mall stores. But there is always the possibility Casey found ways to make money for herself. Maybe she did shady things or maybe she stole from valuable things pawned them in for cash.

[lorettalockhorn]

Loretta!!! Red Velvet with Chocolate frosting is against the law!!!!:no:

Eatcupcakes, knock yourself out....make both! And Thank You!

We'Re GoNnA HaVe a PaRtY
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I know! But the only cake that I can tolerate cream cheese frosting on is carrot cake. I even saw Ina Garten put cream cheese frosting on a coconut cake, if you can believe it. Only seven minute icing on coconut cake in my book! I've had red velvet cake long ago, but it had icing, not frosting on it.

Cupcake, the only solution here is for you to make both!!

[eatcupcakes]

Loretta!!! Red Velvet with Chocolate frosting is against the law!!!!:no:

Eatcupcakes, knock yourself out....make both! And Thank You!

We'Re GoNnA HaVe a PaRtY
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yes I agree red velvet must have cream cheese frosting so I will bring both.

[eatcupcakes]

Didn't know that Cindy was on disability, thanks for the heads up. I would hope that Lee is helping them with expenses, especially if they both aren't working. I am concerned about the expense of George's hospitalization and therapy if there is no insurance.

Well, we've heard that Lee is in hot water over some expenses charged to at least one of the Caylee funds. You kinda hate to see so much heaped on this family when they (George at least) might be at a point where honesty and honoring Caylee might become priority one, but would hate to see Lee get away with financial crimes.

Disabilty benefits are usually for medical problems. If she took family leave that would be for 3 months and no salary but they must continue your medical benefits for the 3 months. I don't think it is either. I would bet my last dime that when her and George went to CA they made a deal with a Multi Media Company for book and movie and got advanced upwards to $200,000. I think they did this to pay Casey's legal fees. It was right before the remains were found. Juan did not take this case Pro Bono. (not sure how to spell that).

[Twinners]

Not sure what Cindy or George are doing work-wise, but according to Lee's attorney, he is helping to support them.

"LUKA: His relationship with his parents is good. He has actually moved back into his house with his parents so that he can further support them both financially and emotionally.

Right now he is working out of town, but next week he will be back in the Orlando area, and he will, obviously, be cooperating with police if they need him. And he will be, of course, be helping out with his family."

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,483416,00.html

[lorettalockhorn]

Fidiot alert!!!!! Caylee doll guy on Prime News bashing the media. Hat's off to Mike Galanos for putting up with the ghoul.

[Redmama]

Has anyone heard about this company selling this Caylee doll? It sings "You are my Sunshine." 100% of the profits going to a charity, they say.

Very strange.

[Amy]

Welcome to the boards Sunbug. You have brought up some good points. I too find it impossible that Casey could been stealing money all the time from people. Her being in involved drug sales/deliveries could possible. I read somewhere online that there was comment or message posted on Lee's myspace from Casey telling him not to worry about her job.



One theory I have is maybe Casey was friends with benefits for pay for someone. Maybe one of her guy friends ocassionally paid her for sex or maybe bought her things. But there is always the possibility that Casey was once in awhile call girl.



If she was doing something shady for cash during the day all would have to do is keep Caylee asleep to do stuff.



If Casey was connected with an escort service they might not come forward to LE because then their business would be shut down.





I agree even though Casey lived rent free and free access to a car and food she would have needed money for other things. Cindy's brother Rick said in his topix posts that Casey used up a lot of Cindy's credit cards and some of her cards were for mall stores. But there is always the possibility Casey found ways to make money for herself. Maybe she did shady things or maybe she stole from valuable things pawned them in for cash.

You have a point about escort service people would not want to come forward. You would think one of her friends would have figured it out, unless anyone who knew or figured out might have been a co-worker, so to speak?

I would think the same would be if she dealt in drugs--don't suppose anyone involved in drugs would be hot-footing it to LE to let them in on that little secret--might have to implicate him or herself, or get some drug dealer in trouble, and then, the tattle teller might him/herself be in danger--real danger.

[Justice Denied?]

Would you like Red Velvet with Cream Cheese Frosting or Double Chocolate with Chocolate Frosting. All made from scratch I might add. I can put little Casey vodoo dolls on the top and we can bite the heads off. :biggrin:

I want to come to the viewing. I would like the cream cheeze frosting type please. I will bring cheeze dip and sausage balls.

[Amy]

No but if ya do let me know-I work at 4p.m. so it best be before. One would think the Liar might wanna spring from her cell now and again? Maybe she has taken to practising her Fusion pole dancing by swinging from her jail cell bars.:D

Don't know for sure her aversion to appearing in court from the beginning (ashamed? No, guess not. And, she seemed to enjoy the limelight, so it wouldn't be the coverage.) But, would think by now, she would have packed on a few pounds what with her junk food (or is that COMFORT FOOD) and what has to be a great decrease in physical exertion so that the calories won't burn off as quickly as dancing @ Fusion and the like. She probably doesn't want her audience to see her with a more hefty figure.

[cece5300]

Oh, wait - Wasn't the Liar a club promoter? I don't know of course if she ever actually WAS because she lies about everything, but my roommate is one and she gets paid to just show up at clubs and tell other people to show up at clubs. I think that would actually be a plausable job for Casey to maybe have had. But then I remember someone saying Casey DIDN'T actually work at Fusion, so I have no idea.

I also heard on our local news channel (we live in Central Florida) that the court hearing Friday is supposed to be at 8:30am. I don't know if that's for sure though.

[Amy]

Disabilty benefits are usually for medical problems. If she took family leave that would be for 3 months and no salary but they must continue your medical benefits for the 3 months. I don't think it is either. I would bet my last dime that when her and George went to CA they made a deal with a Multi Media Company for book and movie and got advanced upwards to $200,000. I think they did this to pay Casey's legal fees. It was right before the remains were found. Juan did not take this case Pro Bono. (not sure how to spell that).

There was talk way before the CA trip--I think one of GMA shows--Oct, Nov? about deals for $200,000, advances for books and movies. Of course, this was disputed, but it seems some of the "deals" for this kind of thing are gotten @ thru the backdoor, quite like the "we don't pay for interviews, but we do pay for licensing pictures" thing that the networks were saying. Just a lot of fishy double talk, IMO.

I was posting (wherever it was) that I tho't disability was more for medical/surgical leave, and was informed that disability could cover mental issues, and of course her employer would cover disability cuz how in the world could she work under these conditions? I did not go research it, but I guess one would have to know what company covers the benefits where she works to see what disability in her instance would cover.

I do remember her talking about PTO, and I figured it out to be about 5 weeks, considering even what she had already taken. And, later, she did say she had 5 weeks PTO and was using that. That is 100% pay, unless any of her hours included a shift differential. That took them into the first week or so of Sept. Like you say, FEMA is an unpaid leave--it may help her retain her position, but would not pay any bills.

[Amy]

Has anyone heard about this company selling this Caylee doll? It sings "You are my Sunshine." 100% of the profits going to a charity, they say.

Very strange.

The man has put it on hold, can't remember the wording--suspended release of it?

Big, big negative public outcry. If he's smart, he won't try it again ANYTIME. He'd better re-tool the doll factory to make a generic type doll that doesn't have the name Caylee or the song "You are my sunshine" involved.

[One2Snoop]

Has anyone heard about this company selling this Caylee doll? It sings "You are my Sunshine." 100% of the profits going to a charity, they say.

Very strange.

Bumping article for Redmama...

Outcry Ends Caylee Anthony Doll Sales
POSTED: Tuesday, January 27, 2009
UPDATED: 11:32 am EST January 27, 2009

http://www.clickorlando.com/money/18573828/detail.html

[eatcupcakes]

There was talk way before the CA trip--I think one of GMA shows--Oct, Nov? about deals for $200,000, advances for books and movies. Of course, this was disputed, but it seems some of the "deals" for this kind of thing are gotten @ thru the backdoor, quite like the "we don't pay for interviews, but we do pay for licensing pictures" thing that the networks were saying. Just a lot of fishy double talk, IMO.

I was posting (wherever it was) that I tho't disability was more for medical/surgical leave, and was informed that disability could cover mental issues, and of course her employer would cover disability cuz how in the world could she work under these conditions? I did not go research it, but I guess one would have to know what company covers the benefits where she works to see what disability in her instance would cover.

I do remember her talking about PTO, and I figured it out to be about 5 weeks, considering even what she had already taken. And, later, she did say she had 5 weeks PTO and was using that. That is 100% pay, unless any of her hours included a shift differential. That took them into the first week or so of Sept. Like you say, FEMA is an unpaid leave--it may help her retain her position, but would not pay any bills.

Yes you are right it does cover for mental problems, I just lumped that all under medical however it is much harder to get disablility for mental problems and a lot of documentation is needed. I don't think Cindy has mental problems, stress, yes and probable now depression but I don't see that getting her disability. I believe they have a money deal and are fine financially. And I hope so. They have enough on their plates.

[Native Alien]

There might also have been an insurance policy on Caylee. Like the one that Gerber advertises or one that they bought thru their own insurance companies. Especially seeing as G & C likely realized that if anything happened to Caylee her mother sure wasn't going to have the money to bury her.

[javahog]

Disabilty benefits are usually for medical problems. If she took family leave that would be for 3 months and no salary but they must continue your medical benefits for the 3 months. I don't think it is either. I would bet my last dime that when her and George went to CA they made a deal with a Multi Media Company for book and movie and got advanced upwards to $200,000. I think they did this to pay Casey's legal fees. It was right before the remains were found. Juan did not take this case Pro Bono. (not sure how to spell that).

Mental health issues are counted for disability. It's hard to imagine there isn't a doctor who would stipulate depression of something considering the circumstances.

[javahog]

You have a point about escort service people would not want to come forward. You would think one of her friends would have figured it out, unless anyone who knew or figured out might have been a co-worker, so to speak?

I would think the same would be if she dealt in drugs--don't suppose anyone involved in drugs would be hot-footing it to LE to let them in on that little secret--might have to implicate him or herself, or get some drug dealer in trouble, and then, the tattle teller might him/herself be in danger--real danger.

The way she snagged onto Amy's checkbook...what do you think she did to the chick in the next dressing room over at Target? I betcha many a purse went the way of Hopespring Drive...

[javahog]

Oh, wait - Wasn't the Liar a club promoter? I don't know of course if she ever actually WAS because she lies about everything, but my roommate is one and she gets paid to just show up at clubs and tell other people to show up at clubs. I think that would actually be a plausable job for Casey to maybe have had. But then I remember someone saying Casey DIDN'T actually work at Fusion, so I have no idea.

I also heard on our local news channel (we live in Central Florida) that the court hearing Friday is supposed to be at 8:30am. I don't know if that's for sure though.

I don't think she worked there, depending on how you define..."working"...or maybe..."working it".

And as for 8:30 am, a pox on you east coasters! Unless the baby wants a predawn bottle, I'm hosed!

[javahog]

There might also have been an insurance policy on Caylee. Like the one that Gerber advertises or one that they bought thru their own insurance companies. Especially seeing as G & C likely realized that if anything happened to Caylee her mother sure wasn't going to have the money to bury her.

I don't know about everyone else, but in my Irish family, there is no buying life insurance policies on babies, hooh, no! Bad juju!!! I bet that is a cultural thing. For those who are Italian, is that in your make-up too and thence possibly in the Anthony family?

[SaraSidle]

Former poster/long time lurker here, hello everyone. :seeya:

People are all discussing where the liar went during her days as it was obviously NOT to work. I'm wondering too about how she managed to make any money. We know she stole money, but surely she didn't steal ALL of her spending cash.

My thought is: Could she have been spending her days selling drugs? Driving around, Caylee contained in the carseat, making some sales or deliveries? She was into the drug scene, we know that. She spent time doing something?

Under mystery of the ages Sunbug. just love your avatar and nic. welcome to CL and Caylee forum. Someone else may know or it may come out at trial. I have no idea and I have been covering this from the start. sara

[eatcupcakes]

There might also have been an insurance policy on Caylee. Like the one that Gerber advertises or one that they bought thru their own insurance companies. Especially seeing as G & C likely realized that if anything happened to Caylee her mother sure wasn't going to have the money to bury her.


Usually if you buy life insurance for a child that young it is only a few thousand maybe as high as 10,000 but that is not gonna get them very far. I would not be surprised if they had some on her because in my Italian family life insurance, as a matter of fact all insurance, was very important. I can remember way back when I was a little girl and the life insurance agent would come to the house to get the premium payment on my dads life insurance. That is really going back far probable a half a century. Oh my goodness, I am old. How did this happen, there is a 20 year old inside of me screaming to get out.

[SaraSidle]

Okay a tray of meatballs comin up! Or do you think we need more, I should do 2 huh? And ya know, I can do a big bowl of the gnocchi's with the pink vodka sauce, or maybe a big tray of fried eggplant, ya think? Yeah but poppa's on a diet again, of course I can make something different for him. All I want is chocolate mousse cake.

We're gonna get thrown outta heah. LOL!

As long as gator does not bring pee pee I will bring the sandwiches. please gator. please save me a biscotti. sara

what about you Beem maam?

[eatcupcakes]

Bumping article for Redmama...

Outcry Ends Caylee Anthony Doll Sales
POSTED: Tuesday, January 27, 2009
UPDATED: 11:32 am EST January 27, 2009

http://www.clickorlando.com/money/18573828/detail.html

Boy oh boy have we heard about it.!!! And it is no more the idea has been put to rest. Very distastful idea.:flamemad:

[SaraSidle]

Usually if you buy life insurance for a child that young it is only a few thousand maybe as high as 10,000 but that is not gonna get them very far. I would not be surprised if they had some on her because in my Italian family life insurance, as a matter of fact all insurance, was very important. I can remember way back when I was a little girl and the life insurance agent would come to the house to get the premium payment on my dads life insurance. That is really going back far probable a half a century. Oh my goodness, I am old. How did this happen, there is a 20 year old inside of me screaming to get out.

I remember that too eatcupcakes and then he would pressure dad into getting them on all the kids for 10000. than as we got older dad would have him come over and pressure us to raise them. wooo you took me back!!!!!!!!! I never thought about a life insurance policy on Caylee. that just makes it more sick. imo sara

[eatcupcakes]

Okay a tray of meatballs comin up! Or do you think we need more, I should do 2 huh? And ya know, I can do a big bowl of the gnocchi's with the pink vodka sauce, or maybe a big tray of fried eggplant, ya think? Yeah but poppa's on a diet again, of course I can make something different for him. All I want is chocolate mousse cake.

We're gonna get thrown outta heah. LOL!

Bring everything you said. I will try it all. I make chocolate mousse cup cakes shall I bring those to. They are my fav I could die happy eating chocolate mousse in a cake. Although I do like white cake with lemon filling and coconut frosting. Thuth is I haven't had any of it in 4 years. Lost 90 lbs and to keep it off I stay away from that stuff and walk two miles a day. I hate it but I have a really bad back and need to keep the weight off. The things we must do as we get older s--k.

[eatcupcakes]

I remember that too eatcupcakes and then he would pressure dad into getting them on all the kids for 10000. than as we got older dad would have him come over and pressure us to raise them. wooo you took me back!!!!!!!!! I never thought about a life insurance policy on Caylee. that just makes it more sick. imo sara

Ha you must be and old coger like me. LOL

[Native Alien]

I think that the drug dealing or muling is exactly why we haven't seen the interview with Annie Dowling/Downing. It has been rumored that she was the one supplying Casey with the Xanax and that she is the one that told the cops about the street name for Xanax being Zanni.

[lorettalockhorn]

Don't know for sure her aversion to appearing in court from the beginning (ashamed? No, guess not. And, she seemed to enjoy the limelight, so it wouldn't be the coverage.) But, would think by now, she would have packed on a few pounds what with her junk food (or is that COMFORT FOOD) and what has to be a great decrease in physical exertion so that the calories won't burn off as quickly as dancing @ Fusion and the like. She probably doesn't want her audience to see her with a more hefty figure.

LMAO That crossed my mind too.

Everyone, all together now:

*You're so vain
You probably think this song is about you
You're so vain
I'll bet you think this song is about you
Don't you? Don't you?*

[SaraSidle]

I was thinking that could be a possibility also. Perhaps she left Caylee in the car? Maybe those were the times she "gave her some baby medicine" to help her go to sleep?

She had to have been getting some spending cash somewhere as well as spending her days doing something. What?

:shrug:

Can you imagine? beyong anything I can

[SaraSidle]

LMAO That crossed my mind too.

Everyone, all together now:

*You're so vain
You probably think this song is about you
You're so vain
I'll bet you think this song is about you
Don't you? Don't you?*
that is the song I sang to all my past men!!!!!!!!!!!!!:beer:

[SaraSidle]

Welcome to the boards Sunbug. You have brought up some good points. I too find it impossible that Casey could been stealing money all the time from people. Her being in involved drug sales/deliveries could possible. I read somewhere online that there was comment or message posted on Lee's myspace from Casey telling him not to worry about her job.



One theory I have is maybe Casey was friends with benefits for pay for someone. Maybe one of her guy friends ocassionally paid her for sex or maybe bought her things. But there is always the possibility that Casey was once in awhile call girl.



If she was doing something shady for cash during the day all would have to do is keep Caylee asleep to do stuff.



If Casey was connected with an escort service they might not come forward to LE because then their business would be shut down.





I agree even though Casey lived rent free and free access to a car and food she would have needed money for other things. Cindy's brother Rick said in his topix posts that Casey used up a lot of Cindy's credit cards and some of her cards were for mall stores. But there is always the possibility Casey found ways to make money for herself. Maybe she did shady things or maybe she stole from valuable things pawned them in for cash.

Not to mention she did have at least 5 men in her life at the same time. good luck with you sig!!!!!!!!! If I had to do it over again.............

[SaraSidle]

that is the song I sang to all my past men!!!!!!!!!!!!!:beer:

LOL we sure good at picking winners!!!!! Got lucky at the end I guess. :hat:

[applesandorange]

I think that the drug dealing or muling is exactly why we haven't seen the interview with Annie Dowling/Downing. It has been rumored that she was the one supplying Casey with the Xanax and that she is the one that told the cops about the street name for Xanax being Zanni.


That could be it! Maybe Anne holds the key to Casey's secret lifestyle. Maybe Annie has received immunity as a deal for her to have told everything. That could be why it is being with held from the public. Is Annie on the witness list? You have to wonder why LE didn't look further into where Casey was and WHAT she was doing. Maybe they already know.

[One2Snoop]

:eek: :rolleyes:

Casey Anthony's defense wants prosecutors removed

Amy L. Edwards | Sentinel Staff Writer
8:05 PM EST, January 27, 2009

Casey Anthony's defense team filed a motion late today asking a judge to remove the prosecutors from her case.

New York attorney Linda Kenney Baden signed the motion, which alleges improprieties and media leaks and asks for a "recusal of the Orange County Prosecutor's Office."

To read the motion, click here.
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/media/acrobat/2009-01/44737110.pdf

Also, defense attorney Jose Baez filed an objection to a judge's earlier order stating Anthony needed to attend future court proceedings.

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http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/orl-bk-casey-anthony-baez-motion-prosecutor-012709,0,6347465.story

[sharlock]

TonE's roommate's girl friend. Seems TonE and Casey were in the bedroom w/door closed, and Caylee was free to roam the apartment where there was access to the balcony.

Another concern (can't remember which friend brought it up) was that Casey had taken Caylee to @ least one, if not several of the parties that would be deemed adult-only and s/he felt that was irresponsible of Casey. S/he did say that Caylee was friendly with all the party goers.
Yes Amy said that Caylee was at the 'Anything but clothes' party and slept the whole way through.:confused:

[sharlock]

No, it wasn't just the trunk....when the driver's door was opened, the smell of decomposition wacked them in the face. LE said it, George said it, even Cindy smelled it and she was outside the car. Don't know if you have even smelled that, but That car, sitting in That sun for Those days equals Everything smelling like decomp... Smoke would have been the least of it, Amy. I never read smoke, why smoke in the car? I need to read up about that, got a link? Also, WTH did Cindy mean about the stuffed toys smelling like smoke? She threw them out?
Apparently Cindy is anal about the smell of cigarette smoke and said she could smell it on the toys. She complained about Casey's clothes that were brought back from AL's apartment smelling of smoke as well.

[One2Snoop]

Anthony Lawyers Hope For Private Jail Service
Family Wants To Say Goodbye To Caylee With Casey Anthony

POSTED: 6:04 pm EST January 27, 2009
UPDATED: 6:14 pm EST January 27, 2009

ORLANDO, Fla. -- The lawyer for George and Cindy Anthony said Tuesday that he is negotiating a private service for Caylee that includes a jailhouse family reunion with Casey Anthony.

The couple's lawyer said he hopes to find out by the end of the week if the Anthonys will be able to reunite with Casey Anthony behind bars to grieve the child she is charged with killing.

Ever since Caylee's remains were found last month, her grandparents have been working on plans for a private service.

Attorney Tom Luka,. a lawyer for Casey Anthony's brother, Lee, said the hope is for “some sort of reunification with the family, the whole family, Casey included, so they can grieve and say goodbye together.

Orange County corrections officials have told WESH 2 that due to the life felony charges Anthony is facing, policy would prohibit her leaving the jail for any service. Now her parents' lawyer tells WESH 2 they're trying to hammer out details for a private service behind bars.

“We are trying to work with the jail,” said attorney Brad Conway, who represents grandparents George and Cindy Anthony.

If there have been talks to reunite the Anthonys behind bars, the jail is not confirming them.

"No such request has been received by Orange County Corrections," spokesman Allen Moore said. "It is highly unlikely such a request would be granted."

Meanwhile the Anthonys are finalizing plans to hold a larger memorial service for Caylee to which the public would be invited to attend. According to their lawyer the goal is to announce that date on Wednesday.

Casey Anthony is charged with first-degree murder in connection with Caylee's death. She reported her daughter missing in July, and her remains were found in an east Orange County woods in December.

http://www.wesh.com/news/18578289/detail.html

[Native Alien]

That could be it! Maybe Anne holds the key to Casey's secret lifestyle. Maybe Annie has received immunity as a deal for her to have told everything. That could be why it is being with held from the public. Is Annie on the witness list? You have to wonder why LE didn't look further into where Casey was and WHAT she was doing. Maybe they already know.

She was on the witness list, but don't know if she is on the revised one or not. I believe that you are right because she is the only one that is being kept under wraps, so to speak. So that leads me to believe that Annie has told them everything and that they have eye witness testimony that we don't know about.

[Gatordog]

Didn't know that Cindy was on disability, thanks for the heads up. I would hope that Lee is helping them with expenses, especially if they both aren't working. I am concerned about the expense of George's hospitalization and therapy if there is no insurance.

Well, we've heard that Lee is in hot water over some expenses charged to at least one of the Caylee funds. You kinda hate to see so much heaped on this family when they (George at least) might be at a point where honesty and honoring Caylee might become priority one, but would hate to see Lee get away with financial crimes.

It was reported yesterday morning that if the Anthony's did not have insurance, the hospital would absorb the cost of the hospitalization. Maybe because of the Baker Act?

[One2Snoop]

She was on the witness list, but don't know if she is on the revised one or not. I believe that you are right because she is the only one that is being kept under wraps, so to speak. So that leads me to believe that Annie has told them everything and that they have eye witness testimony that we don't know about.

She's on the revised list (scroll halfway down the page at link)...

http://www.wesh.com/news/18565575/detail.html

[Gatordog]

Disabilty benefits are usually for medical problems. If she took family leave that would be for 3 months and no salary but they must continue your medical benefits for the 3 months. I don't think it is either. I would bet my last dime that when her and George went to CA they made a deal with a Multi Media Company for book and movie and got advanced upwards to $200,000. I think they did this to pay Casey's legal fees. It was right before the remains were found. Juan did not take this case Pro Bono. (not sure how to spell that).

Mark Nejame said that Cindy couldn't take a lie detector test due to medication. She has often looked like she was spaced out. Maybe shs'e on...xanax. She could be on emotional disability.

Gator

[sharlock]

I hope that the Judges decision to have Casey present at court is not changed. I honestly feel Casey is being misled somewhat as to the the Defenses strategy and that she believes that the case will go to trial in March. Whenever Baez talks about it while Casey is present he certainly gives that impression and even the dream team's Bones has said she is ready to go to trial in March. We all know this is very unlikely just the depo's alone will take a long, long time. They must have Casey present because even if she signs enough stuff to void the chance of there being a dismissal on the grounds she wasn't fully aware the truth is imo, she will not be fully aware and I want her to understand what is happening and to realise just how long she will spend in jail before her hopes of being released are dashed.

[Gatordog]

I don't know about everyone else, but in my Irish family, there is no buying life insurance policies on babies, hooh, no! Bad juju!!! I bet that is a cultural thing. For those who are Italian, is that in your make-up too and thence possibly in the Anthony family?

I think they covered that on NG - no life insurance on Caylee.

[applesandorange]

She's on the revised list (scroll halfway down the page at link)...

http://www.wesh.com/news/18565575/detail.html


Thanks!

[Gatordog]

Okay a tray of meatballs comin up! Or do you think we need more, I should do 2 huh? And ya know, I can do a big bowl of the gnocchi's with the pink vodka sauce, or maybe a big tray of fried eggplant, ya think? Yeah but poppa's on a diet again, of course I can make something different for him. All I want is chocolate mousse cake.

We're gonna get thrown outta heah. LOL!

Oh managia mia, gnocchi w/pink sauce. I will see if I can look up the docket at the courthouse to check the time.

[SaraSidle]

That could be it! Maybe Anne holds the key to Casey's secret lifestyle. Maybe Annie has received immunity as a deal for her to have told everything. That could be why it is being with held from the public. Is Annie on the witness list? You have to wonder why LE didn't look further into where Casey was and WHAT she was doing. Maybe they already know.

Orrrrrrr could they use the cellphone pings for that 30 days????

[SaraSidle]

Join the club EC. Having always been short and thin, I turn 45 and WOW! I know every diet on the planet by heart. This year I said, ENOUGH! I am tired of diets and I want foooood! I had my yearly physical and the doc said, I'm going to up your lipitor if you don't stop eating Italian food! Your cholesterol is up! So I told the doc, "Aye buddy, you push drugs, you make me take my clothes off, you stick needles in me, you draw blood from me, you cut my neck open and invade my carotid and you don't get arrested? I want to be a big warm lovable nawny, I'm not going to Hollywood, foungoul!"

Eat Pasta!

no kidding. I will not give up my pasta or kitkats no matter what. ITA

[SaraSidle]

Oh managia mia, gnocchi w/pink sauce. I will see if I can look up the docket at the courthouse to check the time.

no pee pee. applesandorange what are you bringing or is that too obvious?

[javahog]

LMAO That crossed my mind too.

Everyone, all together now:

*You're so vain
You probably think this song is about you
You're so vain
I'll bet you think this song is about you
Don't you? Don't you?*

*Baby Got Back*?

[Native Alien]

I hadn't read the report from Children's Services until just a few minutes ago and there was something in there where it asked if the parent is engaging in criminal behavior, specifically in the use, manufacturing or distribution of drugs.

It is marked yes. So maybe that is the real answer. I just know that I can't find Annie's interview anywhere.

[applesandorange]

no pee pee. applesandorange what are you bringing or is that too obvious?


LoL!! Okay I'll be the good one and bring a veggie and fruit tray.

[applesandorange]

Orrrrrrr could they use the cellphone pings for that 30 days????


Yeah you know I bet they did that. I just find it rather strange that we have yet to see Annie's interview. There HAS to be something important in that.

[One2Snoop]

http://i41.tinypic.com/jb1mx2.jpg

Have you placed your bid yet on the voodoo doll? :eek: Bid amount is up to $61.00.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Ltd-Edition-New-Orleans-Casey-Anthony-Voodoo-Doll-1_W0QQitemZ280305763966QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_Defau ltDomain_0?hash=item280305763966&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1205%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C 240%3A1318%7C301%3A1%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50

[javahog]

I hope that the Judges decision to have Casey present at court is not changed. I honestly feel Casey is being misled somewhat as to the the Defenses strategy and that she believes that the case will go to trial in March. Whenever Baez talks about it while Casey is present he certainly gives that impression and even the dream team's Bones has said she is ready to go to trial in March. We all know this is very unlikely just the depo's alone will take a long, long time. They must have Casey present because even if she signs enough stuff to void the chance of there being a dismissal on the grounds she wasn't fully aware the truth is imo, she will not be fully aware and I want her to understand what is happening and to realise just how long she will spend in jail before her hopes of being released are dashed.

I think she is being mislead, too. It was certainly in her best interest to try and plea it out. Of course, we have no idea if she vociferously refused...But it couldn't hurt for her to hear JB get reamed by the judge like he did that other day in court. Its been real easy for Mr. 3-years-in-the-bar to shine her on about an acquittal and his skill, I'll bet. I'd rather she not have that as an appeal.

[Redmama]

The man has put it on hold, can't remember the wording--suspended release of it?

Big, big negative public outcry. If he's smart, he won't try it again ANYTIME. He'd better re-tool the doll factory to make a generic type doll that doesn't have the name Caylee or the song "You are my sunshine" involved.

Thanks for the info (and the bump One 2 Snoop) - glad to hear it!

[Gatordog]

Found Judge Strickland's docket - Civil Division 35

http://www.ninja9.org/jacsatt/attdocketframe.asp

[javahog]

http://i41.tinypic.com/jb1mx2.jpg

Have you placed your bid yet on the voodoo doll? :eek: Bid amount is up to $61.00.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Ltd-Edition-New-Orleans-Casey-Anthony-Voodoo-Doll-1_W0QQitemZ280305763966QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_Defau ltDomain_0?hash=item280305763966&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1205%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C 240%3A1318%7C301%3A1%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50

Okay, photo, twigs, and rag. You may all send your cash now! Too bad San Francisco doesn't have the cache of New Orleans...voulez the bon temps roulez! Good for you, Voodoo Woman!

[Gatordog]

Hearing is at 8:30 - found all sorts of info

http://www.myorangeclerk.com/myclerk/Details.aspx?SessionID=684ec56b-9748-48d3-a908-854d53b84a5b&CaseID=6079536

[Sunbug70]

I hadn't read the report from Children's Services until just a few minutes ago and there was something in there where it asked if the parent is engaging in criminal behavior, specifically in the use, manufacturing or distribution of drugs.

It is marked yes. So maybe that is the real answer. I just know that I can't find Annie's interview anywhere.

Sorry if this has been asked and answered already, but what is Annie's last name?

[One2Snoop]

Hearing is at 8:30 - found all sorts of info

http://www.myorangeclerk.com/myclerk/Details.aspx?SessionID=684ec56b-9748-48d3-a908-854d53b84a5b&CaseID=6079536

I get an error... :shrug:

Your Session Information Cannot Be Found

[SaraSidle]

http://i41.tinypic.com/jb1mx2.jpg

Have you placed your bid yet on the voodoo doll? :eek: Bid amount is up to $61.00.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Ltd-Edition-New-Orleans-Casey-Anthony-Voodoo-Doll-1_W0QQitemZ280305763966QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_Defau ltDomain_0?hash=item280305763966&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1205%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C 240%3A1318%7C301%3A1%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50

I figure you will buy it for me.............LOL:D

[One2Snoop]

Sorry if this has been asked and answered already, but what is Annie's last name?

Its' Downing. We also have a Who's Who thread... Welcome sunbug. :seeya:

http://boards.library.trutv.com/showthread.php?t=291358

[One2Snoop]

I figure you will buy it for me.............LOL:D

LOL, just what I want to waste my money on.

[SaraSidle]

I get an error... :shrug:

Your Session Information Cannot Be Found

Me too O2S. must be a gator thing

[Sunbug70]

Its' Downing. We also have a Who's Who thread... Welcome sugbug. :seeya:

http://boards.library.trutv.com/showthread.php?t=291358

Thanks for the info and the welcome Snoop. I'm off to do some digging.

[SaraSidle]

LOL, just what I want to waste my money on.

I am so hurt nowwwww:(

[One2Snoop]

I am so hurt nowwwww:(

I'd rather donate it to a worthy cause. :beer:

[One2Snoop]

Greta just announced new inside information on the Anthony case - hmmmmm??

[SaraSidle]

I'd rather donate it to a worthy cause. :beer:

yeah yeah yeah so now I am not worthy. sighhhhh:( (I can only see half my smileys. what a pain)

[One2Snoop]

Greta just announced new inside information on the Anthony case - hmmmmm??

Mark Furhman said there were Bounce dryer sheets used to help mask the smell.

[STLcardfan]

I hadn't read the report from Children's Services until just a few minutes ago and there was something in there where it asked if the parent is engaging in criminal behavior, specifically in the use, manufacturing or distribution of drugs.

It is marked yes. So maybe that is the real answer. I just know that I can't find Annie's interview anywhere.



I can't find that report do you have a link? TIA

[SaraSidle]

yeah yeah yeah so now I am not worthy. sighhhhh:( (I can only see half my smileys. what a pain)

bounce unused airfreshener to overcome smell in truck from Mark Fuhrman on GVS. also found many black garbage bags with different color handles from Anthony's that all belong to different companies which will make forensics easier. sara thanks
O2S. FBI holding back evidence so it does not go right into discovery per MF.

[SaraSidle]

Sara, you are so funny! PeePee is really PeeWee, Gator's frog! Kiwi is the other frog, they are adorable!

So, No PeePee at our parties.....eeeeeeeeeewwwwwwwwwwwwwwww!

Old Soul I am so very very relieved you cleared that up. I loved PeeWee and Kiwi's pictures and would welcome their company. I am not a tightwad on spelling but that one had me concerned. thank you OS. Hungry again............sara

[One2Snoop]

I can't find that report do you have a link? TIA

DCFS report

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/media/acrobat/2008-11/43228283.PDF

Child Neglect investigation...

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/photogalleries/110608childneglectinvestigation/indexGallery.htm

[Native Alien]

I can't find that report do you have a link? TIA

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/photogalleries/110608childneglectinvestigation/1/lg/48-2008-CF-015606-O_casey_pgs_2201-2270_Page_24.htm

It is the Child Neglect report, In Home Safety report. It is question #5.

[sharlock]

This to me is one of the greatest mysteries. If she spent a lot of time drugged in the trunk, you'd expect developmental problems, if only from lack of enrichment. But she actually seemed normal to advanced. So...WTH???? Who had Caylee? And if anyone did, why haven't they come forward?
I think a lot of people get confused abut this but that is because they imagine that Caylee required watching during the days imo. IMO Casey would tell her Mum and Dad she was off to work during days. I think that Cindy being so house proud with never a thing out of place would have given Casey heaps of chores on days when she thought Casey was just sitting around the house and that is why she did this. It also helped her to explain why she never seemed to have any money because she could tell them that Zanny was expensive and she was looking after Caylee during the daytime. We know now though that Casey always had Caylee with her during the day so nobody was needed to look after Caylee at all. In order to be allowed to goo out in the evenings Casey would again use the work excuse but would convince Cindy that she needed them to watch Casey at night or otherwise she would have no money at all because she would have to give it all to the nanny and that would mean that there would be no point to her keeping a job at all. Cindy seems a little like my mum in the way that I doubt she could handle the thought of people sitting around her house on the couch while she had to work so hard. She had already had to put up with a jobless GA for sometime and I think she had no patience left at all for Casey in this area. This is why Casey had to keep up a job pretext, otherwise Cindy would have been on her all the time to do stuff and look for jobs. We also know that in the past if there was a party and Casey couldn't get Cindy to babysit she would take Caylee with her but her new friends thought that was innappropriate and Casey can't stand to have people thinking she is not perfect.

[Native Alien]

In my opinion, she could have put a whole box of dryer sheets in that trunk and it wouldn't have done any good.

[SaraSidle]

I think a lot of people get confused abut this but that is because they imagine that Caylee required watching during the days imo. IMO Casey would tell her Mum and Dad she was off to work during days. I think that Cindy being so house proud with never a thing out of place would have given Casey heaps of chores on days when she thought Casey was just sitting around the house and that is why she did this. It also helped her to explain why she never seemed to have any money because she could tell them that Zanny was expensive and she was looking after Caylee during the daytime. We know now though that Casey always had Caylee with her during the day so nobody was needed to look after Caylee at all. In order to be allowed to goo out in the evenings Casey would again use the work excuse but would convince Cindy that she needed them to watch Casey at night or otherwise she would have no money at all because she would have to give it all to the nanny and that would mean that there would be no point to her keeping a job at all. Cindy seems a little like my mum in the way that I doubt she could handle the thought of people sitting around her house on the couch while she had to work so hard. She had already had to put up with a jobless GA for sometime and I think she had no patience left at all for Casey in this area. This is why Casey had to keep up a job pretext, otherwise Cindy would have been on her all the time to do stuff and look for jobs. We also know that in the past if there was a party and Casey couldn't get Cindy to babysit she would take Caylee with her but her new friends thought that was innappropriate and Casey can't stand to have people thinking she is not perfect.

SHarlock I believe everything you have wrote is probably true. but all those 2 years of days when george cindy and Casey worked on day shift. where was Caylee? what do you think? sara. I am scared it was with xanax in the trunk. sara

[SaraSidle]

Imagine that.

I'm still thinking maybe the laundry bag was initially in the trunk with the detergent (and Bounce sheets?) before she put Caylee into it. :(

We will never really know what the murdering sneak did, will we?

Oh Old Soul I am still so confused about the decomp smell in the sandbox,playbox,trunk,cell phone calls,borrowed shovel,car backed up to the garage and body dumped and car dumped. I see so many timelines here that I cannot put enough energy into it anymore. Now if I were a paid detective in Orlando it would be different but I do not have the education and energy. I cannot even guess where the homicide took place to even figure out the laundry bag,bounce sheets,winnie-the -pooh blanket even came in to play. much less the garbage bag duct tape and heart stickers. that is why I just try to spend most of the time lurking and stuff cause it became too much for me. Used up this little old brain and heart. Leaving all up to you. I mean no wonder happened to george happened. He loves Casey and Caylee and he is an ex cop. I might have thrown my hat in too. sorry to ramble. just sad. and glad pee pee is not coming friday. sara

[Justice Denied?]

Can you provide a link, please? I would love to read it. TIA

[sharlock]

LUKA: I do not think he was fooled by her.
I take that back. First of all, we are talking about Casey Anthony, not Caylee Anthony. Casey Anthony, my client does admit that Casey did bend the truth and did lie in the past, and that she has done that.
However, there is a big stretch between knowing your sister is a liar and then thinking that she might have murdered or daughter. I don't think that Mr. Anthony is at that point yet, even to this day, that he's willing to accept that fact, that his sister is responsible for his niece's death.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,483416,00.html
I can't get over how inept at public speaking all of the attorneys are. I would love to believve that Lee and Luka discussed this and planned to phrase it this way but the 'Lee's daughter' and the 'I take that back that is not the video I watched' speeches make me doubt this.

[SaraSidle]

Oh Old Soul I am still so confused about the decomp smell in the sandbox,playbox,trunk,cell phone calls,borrowed shovel,car backed up to the garage and body dumped and car dumped. I see so many timelines here that I cannot put enough energy into it anymore. Now if I were a paid detective in Orlando it would be different but I do not have the education and energy. I cannot even guess where the homicide took place to even figure out the laundry bag,bounce sheets,winnie-the -pooh blanket even came in to play. much less the garbage bag duct tape and heart stickers. that is why I just try to spend most of the time lurking and stuff cause it became too much for me. Used up this little old brain and heart. Leaving all up to you. I mean no wonder happened to george happened. He loves Casey and Caylee and he is an ex cop. I might have thrown my hat in too. sorry to ramble. just sad. and glad pee pee is not coming friday. sara

LOL Old Soul aren't you sorry you posted now. Just my way of grieving I guess and thanks for listening. and for making me laugh so hard. (PP)sara

[Justice Denied?]

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/photogalleries/110608childneglectinvestigation/1/lg/48-2008-CF-015606-O_casey_pgs_2201-2270_Page_24.htm

It is the Child Neglect report, In Home Safety report. It is question #5.

Now that is disturbing. It does not say use of drugs, it says sale, manufacture or distribution. Also lists prostitution.

[Justice Denied?]

LUKA: I do not think he was fooled by her.
I take that back. First of all, we are talking about Casey Anthony, not Caylee Anthony. Casey Anthony, my client does admit that Casey did bend the truth and did lie in the past, and that she has done that.
However, there is a big stretch between knowing your sister is a liar and then thinking that she might have murdered or daughter. I don't think that Mr. Anthony is at that point yet, even to this day, that he's willing to accept that fact, that his sister is responsible for his niece's death.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,483416,00.html
I can't get over how inept at public speaking all of the attorneys are. I would love to believve that Lee and Luka discussed this and planned to phrase it this way but the 'Lee's daughter' and the 'I take that back that is not the video I watched' speeches make me doubt this.

Could you please explain the "I take that back. that is not the video I watched". Apparantly I missed something. TIA

[STLcardfan]

Now that is disturbing. It does not say use of drugs, it says sale, manufacture or distribution. Also lists prostitution.

the more I read the more distubed I get

[javahog]

LUKA: I do not think he was fooled by her.
I take that back. First of all, we are talking about Casey Anthony, not Caylee Anthony. Casey Anthony, my client does admit that Casey did bend the truth and did lie in the past, and that she has done that.
However, there is a big stretch between knowing your sister is a liar and then thinking that she might have murdered or daughter. I don't think that Mr. Anthony is at that point yet, even to this day, that he's willing to accept that fact, that his sister is responsible for his niece's death.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,483416,00.html
I can't get over how inept at public speaking all of the attorneys are. I would love to believve that Lee and Luka discussed this and planned to phrase it this way but the 'Lee's daughter' and the 'I take that back that is not the video I watched' speeches make me doubt this.

I'm all for he meant what he said about this "fact". It sure matches what I think a thinker would think.

[javahog]

You know, I think its a given that Lee must know the score, if not the details, the general gist of it. Siblings always know the secrets the parents don't and he has to know so much about Casey and covered up so many little things over the years. He doesn't have the hang-ups the parents have on their illusions about their perfect girl. This is probably how he gets in some trouble, if he does...but I bet they are pressuring him to cough up everything he knows. I don't think his attorney spoke non-truth, he just shouldn't have let it slip, imo.

And as hilarious as it is that the OC LE asked the FBI to compare his DNA to Caylee, no way he's the dad, imo. He's like in a parking lot in Tampa Bay going ewww about it.

[lorettalockhorn]

Now that is disturbing. It does not say use of drugs, it says sale, manufacture or distribution. Also lists prostitution.

AND weapons! Interesting that the report states "regardless of disposition", but Casey has never been charged with any of those crimes, despite the fact that we thought that the prosecution had thrown the book at her.

Could you please explain the "I take that back. that is not the video I watched". Apparantly I missed something. TIA

That was an interesting blunder by Luka. He told Kathy Belich (maybe?) that he had discussed the video with D Casey, then backtracked and said that he had only seen the video when it was shown on the news.

[javahog]

AND weapons! Interesting that the report states "regardless of disposition", but Casey has never been charged with any of those crimes, despite the fact that we thought that the prosecution had thrown the book at her.



That was an interesting blunder by Luka. He told Kathy Belich (maybe?) that he had discussed the video with D Casey, then backtracked and said that he had only seen the video when it was shown on the news.

I wonder who they interviewed to fill out the paperwork...Cindy, perhaps? I'll bet she had a lot of delightful things to say when her temper was still up.

[lorettalockhorn]

I wonder who they interviewed to fill out the paperwork...Cindy, perhaps? I'll bet she had a lot of delightful things to say when her temper was still up.

Their contacts weren't listed, but I noticed that they did report back to the Hopesprings Drive address somewhere. Something else that was interesting, was that Casey reported that Caylee was covered by BCBS and then CIGNA health insurance. Was that Cindy's policy in reality? Because Casey made it sound like it was her policy and Cindy apparently didn't make any correction.

Seems like there was something else that struck me as either a lie or a major lapse in telling the truth.

[javahog]

Their contacts weren't listed, but I noticed that they did report back to the Hopesprings Drive address somewhere. Something else that was interesting, was that Casey reported that Caylee was covered by BCBS and then CIGNA health insurance. Was that Cindy's policy in reality? Because Casey made it sound like it was her policy and Cindy apparently didn't make any correction.

Seems like there was something else that struck me as either a lie or a major lapse in telling the truth.

I also love #28 referring to Casey: "has demonstrated adequate comprehension and problem solving skills......NO"

[lorettalockhorn]

I also love #28 referring to Casey: "has demonstrated adequate comprehension and problem solving skills......NO"

HAHAHA It's kinda scary when an adequate problem solving skill consists of entering 911 on a touchpad, and a whiz like Casey can't figure that out. :rolleyes:

[Amy]

LMAO That crossed my mind too.

Everyone, all together now:

*You're so vain
You probably think this song is about you
You're so vain
I'll bet you think this song is about you
Don't you? Don't you?*

Take it away, Carly!!!! lol

[Amy]

Not to mention she did have at least 5 men in her life at the same time. good luck with you sig!!!!!!!!! If I had to do it over again.............

Even when I was young and randy, back in the late 60's--free love and all that-- I just never could get the hang of dealing with more than one man @ a time. Too dang much trouble!!!!

[Amy]

I'm sure he didn't begin manufacturing of it yet. He probably had a prototype only. And I'm sure it would not have been manufactured in the USA which means his cost would amount to about 5 bucks per doll.

MADE IN CHINA :cuss:

When I read that he was in trouble w/the dog chew and the other Caylee stuff, I figured it was just that one doll that is shown, cuz it sounds like he takes orders and money, and doesn't deliver product. So, bet you're right, he isn't going to lose anything because he hasn't produced anything. He just sounds like a slug. To hear him talk about about it, I just wanted to puke.

[Amy]

:eek: :rolleyes:

Casey Anthony's defense wants prosecutors removed

Amy L. Edwards | Sentinel Staff Writer
8:05 PM EST, January 27, 2009

Casey Anthony's defense team filed a motion late today asking a judge to remove the prosecutors from her case.

New York attorney Linda Kenney Baden signed the motion, which alleges improprieties and media leaks and asks for a "recusal of the Orange County Prosecutor's Office."

To read the motion, click here.
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/media/acrobat/2009-01/44737110.pdf

Also, defense attorney Jose Baez filed an objection to a judge's earlier order stating Anthony needed to attend future court proceedings.

snip
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/orl-bk-casey-anthony-baez-motion-prosecutor-012709,0,6347465.story

I'm figuring we'll all die of old age before this trial gets under way (probably even Casey) with all the motions and petitions and crap they come up with.

Whine, whine, whine---Casey, just shut your yap and go to the hearings!!! I wonder how much is her, and how much is just Jose wanting to keep things roiled up. We think, she doesn't want to show for this reason or that, when maybe SHE would LIKE to get out of her little cell for special occasions, break the monotony, get her mug on camera again and all that--but Jose wants to keep HER in the news. You know, we hear a lot more about Caylee, the A's, Lee, etc these days. Casey is just mentioned in passing. Gotta keep this focused on CASEY, ya know!!!!

[Amy]

LUKA: I do not think he was fooled by her.
I take that back. First of all, we are talking about Casey Anthony, not Caylee Anthony. Casey Anthony, my client does admit that Casey did bend the truth and did lie in the past, and that she has done that.
However, there is a big stretch between knowing your sister is a liar and then thinking that she might have murdered or daughter. I don't think that Mr. Anthony is at that point yet, even to this day, that he's willing to accept that fact, that his sister is responsible for his niece's death.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,483416,00.html
I can't get over how inept at public speaking all of the attorneys are. I would love to believve that Lee and Luka discussed this and planned to phrase it this way but the 'Lee's daughter' and the 'I take that back that is not the video I watched' speeches make me doubt this.

What I don't figure about Luka is, he seems to be the one putting out about how Lee is going to be charged with something. @ first he was saying, but of course Lee didn't do anything that was illegal ON PURPOSE, he tho't he was helping the case etc etc etc.

Today, on NG, she asked about charges against Lee. 2 of the women (not G alred, tho) said that the information comes from Luka, they have checked w/authorities and have been told there are no charges pending against Lee @ this time. So, WHY in the world does Luka keep putting this out? Shouldn't he just shut while he is ahead? If I were his client and there were no charges against me and my lawyer kept telling reporters and going on tv and says I'll probably be charged with SOMETHING even if I was innocent--I think I'd be for getting me a new lawyer. Of course, since it seems half the people who live in Orlando have to get a lawyer because their name was mentioned in relation to this case, there might not be any lawyers not already taken.

Carmen, whoever she is--I think a lawyer-type TH, seemed a bit confused, too. A caller asked about the DP, and this chick says, well, they decided not to go with the DP, but if they come up with some evidence that shows LEE is involved in anyway, they might put it back on the table. WTH???? It seems to me that evidence against LEE would would reflect on what they would charge HIM with. The fact that HE was involved (if they decide he was) would not affect whether or not they would decide to go with the DP for her. :shrug:

[Amy]

You know, I think its a given that Lee must know the score, if not the details, the general gist of it. Siblings always know the secrets the parents don't and he has to know so much about Casey and covered up so many little things over the years. He doesn't have the hang-ups the parents have on their illusions about their perfect girl. This is probably how he gets in some trouble, if he does...but I bet they are pressuring him to cough up everything he knows. I don't think his attorney spoke non-truth, he just shouldn't have let it slip, imo.

And as hilarious as it is that the OC LE asked the FBI to compare his DNA to Caylee, no way he's the dad, imo. He's like in a parking lot in Tampa Bay going ewww about it.

On NG tonight, there was the video of Lee @ one of the hearings. He is saying exactly what you say...he and Casey could talk to each other about anything, things their parents would not understand. They were very close, they knew each other secrets, or something like that. Yep, Lee knows. What Casey might not have had time to tell him about before she was arrested that first time, he figured out on his own, I'll bet. PLUS, he WAS around when she was out on bail. With their high fiving and all, bet they had some discussions when no one else was around.

[Amy]

AND weapons! Interesting that the report states "regardless of disposition", but Casey has never been charged with any of those crimes, despite the fact that we thought that the prosecution had thrown the book at her.



That was an interesting blunder by Luka. He told Kathy Belich (maybe?) that he had discussed the video with D Casey, then backtracked and said that he had only seen the video when it was shown on the news.

Methinks there are several lawyers on this case who speak with forked tongue. They ought be put their brains in gear before they open their mouths.

[Amy]

Well, seems like I am a day late and a dollar short again, posting here all by myself. Guess you all have toddled off to bed, and probably so should I!!!!!

[Lodi]

What I don't figure about Luka is, he seems to be the one putting out about how Lee is going to be charged with something. @ first he was saying, but of course Lee didn't do anything that was illegal ON PURPOSE, he tho't he was helping the case etc etc etc.

Today, on NG, she asked about charges against Lee. 2 of the women (not G alred, tho) said that the information comes from Luka, they have checked w/authorities and have been told there are no charges pending against Lee @ this time. So, WHY in the world does Luka keep putting this out? Shouldn't he just shut while he is ahead? If I were his client and there were no charges against me and my lawyer kept telling reporters and going on tv and says I'll probably be charged with SOMETHING even if I was innocent--I think I'd be for getting me a new lawyer. Of course, since it seems half the people who live in Orlando have to get a lawyer because their name was mentioned in relation to this case, there might not be any lawyers not already taken.

Carmen, whoever she is--I think a lawyer-type TH, seemed a bit confused, too. A caller asked about the DP, and this chick says, well, they decided not to go with the DP, but if they come up with some evidence that shows LEE is involved in anyway, they might put it back on the table. WTH???? It seems to me that evidence against LEE would would reflect on what they would charge HIM with. The fact that HE was involved (if they decide he was) would not affect whether or not they would decide to go with the DP for her. :shrug:

I wonder if Luka, with consent from Lee, might be attempting to spread some doubt as to Casey's guilt? Plant a seed in some future juror's mind that Lee could be the one that killed Caylee.

[sharlock]

Could you please explain the "I take that back. that is not the video I watched". Apparantly I missed something. TIA
He claimed to have seen the vid of D.Casey a week before it was released and when he was called on it he said 'oh I take that back, I did not see that video or did I, no, I did not see that video it's not the video I saw'.

[Native Alien]

In response to the Child Neglect report, I believe that is exactly why we haven't seen Annie Downing's interview with LE. I think that she can nail Casey with at the very least distributing and given that Xanax is a prescription drug, they stand to make some decent busts on that information.

I think that they are keeping Annie under wraps, at least until they have to offer up discovery right before trial. The most likely way to do this would be to get Annie into rehab somewhere.

I do have to applaud the judge. The other thing with this is that regardless of what else they have on Casey, they have her dead to rights on Forgery, Identity Fraud and several other charges involving the forged checks and using credit cards that didn't belong to her.

[eatcupcakes]

no kidding. I will not give up my pasta or kitkats no matter what. ITA

Who can give up Pasta, not me. I eat a lot less of it but still eat it. Bread, I have had a love affair with it all my life. Good crusty Italian Bread with butter and of course Chocolate. I still eat it once in awhile but small amounts. Last night I had and ice cream cone. I use the cheap ice cream because it has less fat but I would rather have Hagen-Daz.

As for the Liar going to a service in Jail with the family, I would be very careful of that if I was LE. I don't trust anyone in the family, they might pass her something to help her escape. I really feel bad for Cindy, George and Lee but I think this whole family has mental problems. I would not trust them as far as I could throw them.

[Gatordog]

:tongue:Hearing is at 8:30 - found all sorts of info

http://www.myorangeclerk.com/myclerk/Details.aspx?SessionID=684ec56b-9748-48d3-a908-854d53b84a5b&CaseID=6079536

That no longer worked for people - try this:

http://www.myorangeclerk.com/criminal/iclerk_disclaimer.shtml

Click yes for the diclaimer

Under the pink box - pick name search

Type in Anthony then Casey (Won't take Liar) :tongue: Then hit search - that's all you need to put in and four different lines with Anthony will show - they're all the Liar. Just click on details.

I see she got a ticket back in 2003 for no proof of insurance while driving. Stupid idiot was driving uninsured. Wonder what C&G thought back then why she didn't have insurance.

Gator

[eatcupcakes]

What I don't figure about Luka is, he seems to be the one putting out about how Lee is going to be charged with something. @ first he was saying, but of course Lee didn't do anything that was illegal ON PURPOSE, he tho't he was helping the case etc etc etc.

Today, on NG, she asked about charges against Lee. 2 of the women (not G alred, tho) said that the information comes from Luka, they have checked w/authorities and have been told there are no charges pending against Lee @ this time. So, WHY in the world does Luka keep putting this out? Shouldn't he just shut while he is ahead? If I were his client and there were no charges against me and my lawyer kept telling reporters and going on tv and says I'll probably be charged with SOMETHING even if I was innocent--I think I'd be for getting me a new lawyer. Of course, since it seems half the people who live in Orlando have to get a lawyer because their name was mentioned in relation to this case, there might not be any lawyers not
already taken.


Carmen, whoever she is--I think a lawyer-type TH, seemed a bit confused, too. A caller asked about the DP, and this chick says, well, they decided not to go with the DP, but if they come up with some evidence that shows LEE is involved in anyway, they might put it back on the table. WTH???? It seems to me that evidence against LEE would would reflect on what they would charge HIM with. The fact that HE was involved (if they decide he was) would not affect whether or not they would decide to go with the DP for her. :shrug:

Yeah, I heard her and it made no sense to me either. Why would whatever Lee did put the DP back on the table for Casey. Can anyone think of a reason

[Gatordog]

Mark Furhman said there were Bounce dryer sheets used to help mask the smell.

I can hear their new commerical now - Try Springtime fresh Bounce, strong enough to hide the smell of decomposition. Buy your box today before you commit that murder.

Gator

[Gatordog]

Yeah, I heard her and it made no sense to me either. Why would whatever Lee did put the DP back on the table for Casey. Can anyone think of a reason

Just speculation - what if he did find Caylee's body and remove evidence of premeditated murder such as a rope used for strangulation or the bottle the chloroform was in?

Gator

[eatcupcakes]

Just speculation - what if he did find Caylee's body and remove evidence of premeditated murder such as a rope used for strangulation or the bottle the chloroform was in?

Gator

Okay I see where you are going, it would prove premediated murder on the Liars part and put the DP back on the table. It would sure as heck get Lee in a lot of trouble to. Very interesting theory. Geez if he did that he would really have to be crazy as Caylee. But as I said before this whole little family has mental problems. That Gene Pool is tainted.

[eatcupcakes]

I can hear their new commerical now - Try Springtime fresh Bounce, strong enough to hide the smell of decomposition. Buy your box today before you commit that murder.

Gator

:biggrin: laughed so hard almost peed my pants. How about "Bounce the smell of death away"

[lissyanne1]

Hi
Well the fact that the Anthony's want the funeral in jail for their precious Casey is another slap in the face to Caylee! Again putting that b&%$h before the child! Disgusting to insist that the child's murderer be present at her funeral can't even give Caylee that little bit of respect up to the very end.

I find it quite ironic that it had to take one of Casey's friends (amy) to be willing to put herself at risk by telling the truth even though she herself could be implicated for other small crimes she may have committed, to get some justice for that sweet baby. Her own family wasn't willing to tell the truth for her. (eg, refusing lie detector besides other lies):flamemad:

[khristmaskathy]

I have a snow day from school and am catching up on your alls posts. I love President Obama and I am SO worried, too; I am trying to pray for him each day. I admire what he has done already....has done MORE GOOD in 8 DAYS then Bush did in 8 YEARS IMO.
You all are a wonderful group of people and , although I came "late to the party", I admire you and God bless that sweet, darling child named Caylee. The entire thing just breaks my heart in two. I teach preK and I love children!

[eatcupcakes]

Hi
Well the fact that the Anthony's want the funeral in jail for their precious Casey is another slap in the face to Caylee! Again putting that b&%$h before the child! Disgusting to insist that the child's murderer be present at her funeral can't even give Caylee that little bit of respect up to the very end.

I find it quite ironic that it had to take one of Casey's friends (amy) to be willing to put herself at risk by telling the truth even though she herself could be implicated for other small crimes she may have committed, to get some justice for that sweet baby. Her own family wasn't willing to tell the truth for her. (eg, refusing lie detector besides other lies):flamemad:

I have come to the realization that these people are disfunctional.
Therefore normal minded people can not relate to how they think. Don't try and don't get angry over it. Why put stress on yourself. In the end Casey will be punished for what she did. Remember Scott Petersons parents believed he was innocent and probable still do. They were disfunctional as well. In the end he is sitting on Death Row and thats the end of that.

[eatcupcakes]

I have a snow day from school and am catching up on your alls posts. I love President Obama and I am SO worried, too; I am trying to pray for him each day. I admire what he has done already....has done MORE GOOD in 8 DAYS then Bush did in 8 YEARS IMO.
You all are a wonderful group of people and , although I came "late to the party", I admire you and God bless that sweet, darling child named Caylee. The entire thing just breaks my heart in two. I teach preK and I love children!

Well welcome to the party khristmaskathy. Obama is a good man and hope he stays well and continues to make good changes.

[One2Snoop]

Interview with Mark Furhman on Greta last night...

Furhman Goes Inside Caylee Probe
January 27, 2009

Video
http://www.foxnews.com/video2/video08.html?maven_referralObject=3471087&maven_referralPlaylistId=&sRevUrl=http://www.foxnews.com/ontherecord/

[browneyes106]

I have come to the realization that these people are disfunctional.
Therefore normal minded people can not relate to how they think. Don't try and don't get angry over it. Why put stress on yourself. In the end Casey will be punished for what she did. Remember Scott Petersons parents believed he was innocent and probable still do. They were disfunctional as well. In the end he is sitting on Death Row and thats the end of that.

I agree a lot of killers come from dysfunctional families or their parents sometimes are sociopaths. I read the book Scott's half sister wrote and after reading it you realize Jackie Peterson is like her son. Years ago I remember reading a comments section for San Diego paper article about the case and there was a comment left by a person who claimed that there were Peterson's neighbors in San Diego the poster said that Lee Peterson was very civil and friendly but Jackie was a different story.

[Gatordog]

:biggrin: laughed so hard almost peed my pants. How about "Bounce the smell of death away"

ROFL http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-laughing016.gif (http://www.freesmileys.org)

[lissyanne1]

I agree a lot of killers come from dysfunctional families or their parents sometimes are sociopaths. I read the book Scott's half sister wrote and after reading it you realize Jackie Peterson is like her son. Years ago I remember reading a comments section for San Diego paper article about the case and there was a comment left by a person who claimed that there were Peterson's neighbors in San Diego the poster said that Lee Peterson was very civil and friendly but Jackie was a different story.

Forgive me if I'm remembering incorrectly, but wasn't it true that Jackie and Lee's relationship started out being an affair?

[cece5300]

I can't believe it. Could that in-jail funeral really happen? No one's going to go for that, right??! Casey already attended Caylee's funeral when she stuffed her in a trash bag. Sorry, she had her chance.

And what's the deal with the defense trying to get the prosecution thrown off the case? On what grounds? Worst defense ever.

[applesandorange]

Hi
Well the fact that the Anthony's want the funeral in jail for their precious Casey is another slap in the face to Caylee! Again putting that b&%$h before the child! Disgusting to insist that the child's murderer be present at her funeral can't even give Caylee that little bit of respect up to the very end.

I find it quite ironic that it had to take one of Casey's friends (amy) to be willing to put herself at risk by telling the truth even though she herself could be implicated for other small crimes she may have committed, to get some justice for that sweet baby. Her own family wasn't willing to tell the truth for her. (eg, refusing lie detector besides other lies):flamemad:


I agree with everything you have said. IMO this behind bar funeral/family reunion won't happen. How many other inmates would like to have a "family reunion" and can't? The jail would have to let everyone have something like this if they allowed Casey to IMO. They can't play favoirtes. The Ants had their little "family reunion" while Casey was out. If the b**** liar had told where Caylee's body was they might have even been able to have their little family funeral. Casey created the mess she's in. No exceptions should be made for her.

[eatcupcakes]

Forgive me if I'm remembering incorrectly, but wasn't it true that Jackie and Lee's relationship started out being an affair?

Yes I do believe you are right and she had 3 illigimate kids 2 she gave away and one she kept. When she married Lee they had one together which they called their "GOlDEN CHILD" and they names him Scott Peterson. He was golden alright, they paid a million for his defense to Mark Garagos who is still a little imbarassed about how that turned out I am sure. He was so cocky, swarging into court with his cell phone to his ear and his sun glasses on. I wonder if the Petersons feel like they got their monies worth. I love the fact that SP is on DP. I have heard he is writing to Casey. Birds of a feather.

[One2Snoop]

Yes I do believe you are right and she had 3 illigimate kids 2 she gave away and one she kept. When she married Lee they had one together which they called their "GOlDEN CHILD" and they names him Scott Peterson. He was golden alright, they paid a million for his defense to Mark Garagos who is still a little imbarassed about how that turned out I am sure. He was so cocky, swarging into court with his cell phone to his ear and his sun glasses on. I wonder if the Petersons feel like they got their monies worth. I love the fact that SP is on DP. I have heard he is writing to Casey. Birds of a feather.

He's not writing to Casey - there's an article posted in the Peterson/Casey thread that disputes it. Just thought you might want to know.

[javahog]

I agree with everything you have said. IMO this behind bar funeral/family reunion won't happen. How many other inmates would like to have a "family reunion" and can't? The jail would have to let everyone have something like this if they allowed Casey to IMO. They can't play favoirtes. The Ants had their little "family reunion" while Casey was out. If the b**** liar had told where Caylee's body was they might have even been able to have their little family funeral. Casey created the mess she's in. No exceptions should be made for her.

It's got to be just a crazy rumor (just because its from the attorney doesn't mean its not crazy!). Otherwise they might as well open up a mortuary at the county jail for every inmate who has a death in the family. Bet all Casey wants to know is "do funerals serve beer?"

[One2Snoop]

Bump....

REPORTS OF SCOTT PETERSON LETTERS UNTRUE

Eyewitness News has learned a strange new twist being reported in the Casey Anthony case doesn't appear to be true. The Orlando Sentinel reported an exclusive story Wednesday that convicted murderer Scott Peterson has been sending Casey letters from his cell at the San Quentin State Prison in California.

When Eyewitness News started asking questions, the prison spokesman at San Quentin looked into it and said, based on information developed at the prison, there is no truth to that story. The prison spokesman said he was never contacted about the story before it ran in the Sentinel.

http://www.wftv.com/news/17841326/detail.html#-

[javahog]

Bump....

I wonder if someone claiming to be Scott Peterson is sending her letters to mess with her. iirc, there's a post office in San Quentin, so someone could get the postmark...

[applesandorange]

It's got to be just a crazy rumor (just because its from the attorney doesn't mean its not crazy!). Otherwise they might as well open up a mortuary at the county jail for every inmate who has a death in the family. Bet all Casey wants to know is "do funerals serve beer?"


Ha! You got her pegged alright!

[Justice Denied?]

Apparently Cindy is anal about the smell of cigarette smoke and said she could smell it on the toys. She complained about Casey's clothes that were brought back from AL's apartment smelling of smoke as well.

Smoke or decomposition? It's easy to get those two confused? :D Not on the stuffed animals, of course.

[One2Snoop]

I wonder if someone claiming to be Scott Peterson is sending her letters to mess with her. iirc, there's a post office in San Quentin, so someone could get the postmark...

:shrug: Could be - I don't think we've heard anymore on this from Casey's end.

[One2Snoop]

Parents Seek Private Meeting With Casey Anthony
Lawyer Wants Attorney General To Take Over

POSTED: Wednesday, January 28, 2009
UPDATED: 12:50 pm EST January 28, 2009
ORLANDO, Fla. -- The attorney for the parents of Casey Anthony is trying to arrange a private, face-to-face jail meeting between his clients and their daughter.

Casey Anthony, 22, who remains jailed on first-degree murder charges in the death of her daughter, Caylee, has not seen or spoken to her family in more than three months. Jail visitations are permitted, but they are videotaped and made public as a part of the discovery process, so the Anthonys have not met with their daughter.

Attorney Brad Conway said he plans to ask the Orange County Jail to allow Casey Anthony's mother, Cindy Anthony, and possibly her father, George Anthony, to privately visit their daughter.

The remains of Caylee were found in December in a wooded area near the east Orange County home she shared with her mother and grandparents. George and Cindy Anthony want to see their daughter to talk about Caylee's death, so Conway said he will ask the jail to arrange a private, face-to-face meeting and possibly hold a small memorial service at the jail. Their last jail visit was made in mid-October.

An Orange County Jail official said the request has not been made. He said it would be highly unusual. Typically, only attorneys and clergy are permitted to meet with inmates face-to-face, and the Orange County Jail has never allowed any type of memorial service.

Local 6 News reported that it would be possible for the Anthonys to have a video visitation with their daughter that is not recorded, but authorities would have to agree to it. A call to the Orange County Sheriff's Office about the possibility has not yet been returned.

http://www.clickorlando.com/news/18582240/detail.html?treets=orlpn&tml=orlpn_12pm&ts=T&tmi=orlpn_12pm_1_10550101282009#-

[Native Alien]

I work with inmates in the State Prison system here in Ohio, and I can tell you that every state has no contact between felony inmates. Even if they are just charged and not yet convicted.

I would think that Florida has the same. It is to prevent the sharing of "stories". In other words to stop them from getting their stories straight when more than one person is charged with the commission of a crime.

Gator and cupcake, you two crack me up with the Bounce thing.

I agree that the county jail is not going to allow her to have any sort of "service" for Caylee in the jail. Simply because it would mean that they would have to do it for every person that they are holding. They are already having to give her protective custody status. That puts a hugh drain on resources for them and there is no way they are going to compound that with any type of service. She has both mental and spiritual health people at her beck and call basically.

[Justice Denied?]

AND weapons! Interesting that the report states "regardless of disposition", but Casey has never been charged with any of those crimes, despite the fact that we thought that the prosecution had thrown the book at her.



That was an interesting blunder by Luka. He told Kathy Belich (maybe?) that he had discussed the video with D Casey, then backtracked and said that he had only seen the video when it was shown on the news.

Who discussed the video with D. Casey, Luka or Lee? Sorryif I appear thick headed.

[One2Snoop]

Who discussed the video with D. Casey, Luka or Lee? Sorryif I appear thick headed.

Luka

[Amy]

Hi
Well the fact that the Anthony's want the funeral in jail for their precious Casey is another slap in the face to Caylee! Again putting that b&%$h before the child! Disgusting to insist that the child's murderer be present at her funeral can't even give Caylee that little bit of respect up to the very end.

I find it quite ironic that it had to take one of Casey's friends (amy) to be willing to put herself at risk by telling the truth even though she herself could be implicated for other small crimes she may have committed, to get some justice for that sweet baby. Her own family wasn't willing to tell the truth for her. (eg, refusing lie detector besides other lies):flamemad:

Some of the TH's , maintain that, because Casey has not yet been convicted, that she, as the mother, should be able to pay her last respects to her baby, to say her final goodby, yadda yadda yadda. Most of them do agree that Orange County most likely would not allow her privileges not given to other prisoners.

You know, if she had accidentally killed Caylee, AND she had called 911 right away, I could see her attending a funeral. BUT, she showed what respect she had for Caylee when (whether it was long planned, or premeditated by seconds) she did NOT call for help. She HAD her own little funeral for her baby when she dumped her in the woods. She NEVER, EVER had any plans to attend a funeral--because she NEVER, EVER expected Caylee to be found for one. So, why should she get to go?

They talk about how she should be able to grieve for Caylee. Well, for more than 6 months, she hasn't seemed to find the time to grieve--not in conversations w/her parents, not, according to Tracey who body guarded her in her home. However she might be grieving in private, she can continue on with that without benefit of attending the funeral of the baby she threw away.

She is not the first person in jail awaiting trial for killing someone in the family, even a parent or a child. It is rare that the one accused of the murder (even without conviction) is allowed to attend the funeral, and frankly, I have not heard of a funeral being taken to the county jail so the accused can "attend." All she has to do is put Lee and the A's on her visitation list for ONE TIME, and they can be together (even tho they may be separated by glass) for a private MEMORIAL service for Caylee.

IMO ;)

[Amy]

I have come to the realization that these people are disfunctional.
Therefore normal minded people can not relate to how they think. Don't try and don't get angry over it. Why put stress on yourself. In the end Casey will be punished for what she did. Remember Scott Petersons parents believed he was innocent and probable still do. They were disfunctional as well. In the end he is sitting on Death Row and thats the end of that.

They were a little clueless as to time it takes to get to trial. They wanted the funeral to wait until their son was exonerated. Of course, they too, might have been misled down the primrose path by things their attorney said (like possibly the A's were led on by D Casey--their PI who "has proven everything Casey says is true" if, in fact he did lead them on.) After all, the attorney for their son announced--not just to them, but to people world wide that they could prove who the real killer was. Like me, possibly they tho't that meant, give the evidence to LE, they will get the real guy and the son would be out before there was need for even a pretrial.

Just as Baez said (you know, I haven't heard him go on about this for a while,tho) just wait until you hear CASEY's side of the story, you will see for yourself she is innocent or however he put it. PUT OUT THE TRUTH NOW, CASEY AND JOSE, and there wouldn't be all this stress on the Anthony family, Casey would be out and free, and the good taxpayers of the state of FL would not be bagged with the cost of her incarceration and trial. And all time and efforts and tax monies could be spent on the real killer. :flamemad:

[shadydaisy]

I don't know about everyone else, but in my Irish family, there is no buying life insurance policies on babies, hooh, no! Bad juju!!! I bet that is a cultural thing. For those who are Italian, is that in your make-up too and thence possibly in the Anthony family?

Absolutely! I remember when I had my first it seemed like every day there was another mailer from Gerber - Buy now!

My Irish grandmother would not attend baby showers, but she would send money. No buying of gifts pertaining to the unborn.

[lorettalockhorn]

What I don't figure about Luka is, he seems to be the one putting out about how Lee is going to be charged with something. @ first he was saying, but of course Lee didn't do anything that was illegal ON PURPOSE, he tho't he was helping the case etc etc etc.

Today, on NG, she asked about charges against Lee. 2 of the women (not G alred, tho) said that the information comes from Luka, they have checked w/authorities and have been told there are no charges pending against Lee @ this time. So, WHY in the world does Luka keep putting this out? Shouldn't he just shut while he is ahead? If I were his client and there were no charges against me and my lawyer kept telling reporters and going on tv and says I'll probably be charged with SOMETHING even if I was innocent--I think I'd be for getting me a new lawyer. Of course, since it seems half the people who live in Orlando have to get a lawyer because their name was mentioned in relation to this case, there might not be any lawyers not already taken.

Carmen, whoever she is--I think a lawyer-type TH, seemed a bit confused, too. A caller asked about the DP, and this chick says, well, they decided not to go with the DP, but if they come up with some evidence that shows LEE is involved in anyway, they might put it back on the table. WTH???? It seems to me that evidence against LEE would would reflect on what they would charge HIM with. The fact that HE was involved (if they decide he was) would not affect whether or not they would decide to go with the DP for her. :shrug:

Amy, that convo about the DP and Lee's involvement confused me too. Unless Carmen was getting at some sort of conspiracy angle. Maybe?

[Justice Denied?]

Yeah, I heard her and it made no sense to me either. Why would whatever Lee did put the DP back on the table for Casey. Can anyone think of a reason

The only thing I could think of is that would make it conspiracy to commit murder or that it would show intent.

I personally think if he did anything, he helped dispose of the body. I really don't think he did that. He was too intense about finding Caylee at the very beginning.

[lissyanne1]

I agree with everything you have said. IMO this behind bar funeral/family reunion won't happen. How many other inmates would like to have a "family reunion" and can't? The jail would have to let everyone have something like this if they allowed Casey to IMO. They can't play favoirtes. The Ants had their little "family reunion" while Casey was out. If the b**** liar had told where Caylee's body was they might have even been able to have their little family funeral. Casey created the mess she's in. No exceptions should be made for her.

Thank you A&O. She created this mess, EXACTLY.

[One2Snoop]

Official: Funeral for Caylee Marie Anthony at jail is highly unlikely
Kevin P. Connolly | Sentinel Staff Writer

A jail spokesman said today that it's "highly unlikely" a funeral for slain toddler Caylee Marie Anthony will be held at the Orange County Jail.

Spokesman Allen Moore responded to recent reports from local television stations. Caylee's mother, Casey Anthony, is being held without bond at the jail, charged with the first-degree murder in her daughter's death.

Moore's statement said the jail "has received no request or communication about an in-jail funeral memorial for Caylee Anthony."

It also says "it is highly unlikely such a request would be granted. Our consistent policy in regards to Casey Anthony's incarceration is to treat her no differently than any other inmate in her custody status."

He added that he was not aware of any "in-jail funeral memorial" at the jail.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/orl-bk-caylee-anthony-no-jail-funeral-012809,0,4165679.story

[Amy]

It's got to be just a crazy rumor (just because its from the attorney doesn't mean its not crazy!). Otherwise they might as well open up a mortuary at the county jail for every inmate who has a death in the family. Bet all Casey wants to know is "do funerals serve beer?"

I think half the crap that goes on is just stuff from the lawyers to keep smoke and mirrors going to divert from the fact that the prosecution has the goods on Casey. Put out motions to delay the inevitable, the trial that will result in Casey being behind bars forever. The focus in the news lately has been George and Lee--not CASEY. Gotta keep HER in the news, ya know. Stuff meant to try to get people to be sympathetic to her--poor girl, her little girl has been id'd as the body in the woods, don't all you mothers out there understand her need to grieve her baby's death? PROBABLY ONLY THE OTHER MOMS THAT HAVE KILLED THEIR BABIES. The rest of us, not so much.

[Amy]

Amy, that convo about the DP and Lee's involvement confused me too. Unless Carmen was getting at some sort of conspiracy angle. Maybe?

I guess I need to look @ the transcript of the show. Because I was thinking she was indicating that even if what he would be involved in was covering up after, tampering w/evidence, that that could change putting the DP back. @ the time, I was shaking my head, because the way she put it, I was thinking, Lee's involvement would make charges against HIM, but would not change anything against Casey. They already state they can prove it's premeditated, so getting anything against Lee would not change THAT. Now, if they found Lee was involved in the actual crime (and I don't think he was, and prosecution says she acted alone) THAT again, would have them look @ asking for LWOP or DP for HIM, not Casey.

I think some of the TH's (and LP, of course) just get going with something, and aren't thinking of what they are saying.

[lorettalockhorn]

Parents Seek Private Meeting With Casey Anthony
Lawyer Wants Attorney General To Take Over

POSTED: Wednesday, January 28, 2009
UPDATED: 12:50 pm EST January 28, 2009
ORLANDO, Fla. -- The attorney for the parents of Casey Anthony is trying to arrange a private, face-to-face jail meeting between his clients and their daughter.

Casey Anthony, 22, who remains jailed on first-degree murder charges in the death of her daughter, Caylee, has not seen or spoken to her family in more than three months. Jail visitations are permitted, but they are videotaped and made public as a part of the discovery process, so the Anthonys have not met with their daughter.

Attorney Brad Conway said he plans to ask the Orange County Jail to allow Casey Anthony's mother, Cindy Anthony, and possibly her father, George Anthony, to privately visit their daughter.

The remains of Caylee were found in December in a wooded area near the east Orange County home she shared with her mother and grandparents. George and Cindy Anthony want to see their daughter to talk about Caylee's death, so Conway said he will ask the jail to arrange a private, face-to-face meeting and possibly hold a small memorial service at the jail. Their last jail visit was made in mid-October.

An Orange County Jail official said the request has not been made. He said it would be highly unusual. Typically, only attorneys and clergy are permitted to meet with inmates face-to-face, and the Orange County Jail has never allowed any type of memorial service.

Local 6 News reported that it would be possible for the Anthonys to have a video visitation with their daughter that is not recorded, but authorities would have to agree to it. A call to the Orange County Sheriff's Office about the possibility has not yet been returned.

http://www.clickorlando.com/news/18582240/detail.html?treets=orlpn&tml=orlpn_12pm&ts=T&tmi=orlpn_12pm_1_10550101282009#-

Private meeings. Private funeral. For the love of Mike, this girl never thought anything about taking a piss in public and now she's an introvert? I cannot imagine that the OC jail would allow for anything more private than what could be muttered through a phone receiver. And that's exactly how it should be.

[lorettalockhorn]

I have a snow day from school and am catching up on your alls posts. I love President Obama and I am SO worried, too; I am trying to pray for him each day. I admire what he has done already....has done MORE GOOD in 8 DAYS then Bush did in 8 YEARS IMO.
You all are a wonderful group of people and , although I came "late to the party", I admire you and God bless that sweet, darling child named Caylee. The entire thing just breaks my heart in two. I teach preK and I love children!

God bless you good folks who teach and truly love children.

Was reading really late last night, and I think in the child neglect report, Casey had stated that she wanted to make DPS her vocation. WTF

(Maybe I better read that again with fresh eyes.)

[Amy]

Official: Funeral for Caylee Marie Anthony at jail is highly unlikely
Kevin P. Connolly | Sentinel Staff Writer

A jail spokesman said today that it's "highly unlikely" a funeral for slain toddler Caylee Marie Anthony will be held at the Orange County Jail.

Spokesman Allen Moore responded to recent reports from local television stations. Caylee's mother, Casey Anthony, is being held without bond at the jail, charged with the first-degree murder in her daughter's death.

Moore's statement said the jail "has received no request or communication about an in-jail funeral memorial for Caylee Anthony."

It also says "it is highly unlikely such a request would be granted. Our consistent policy in regards to Casey Anthony's incarceration is to treat her no differently than any other inmate in her custody status."

He added that he was not aware of any "in-jail funeral memorial" at the jail.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/orl-bk-caylee-anthony-no-jail-funeral-012809,0,4165679.story

My brain is whirling full tilt today, I have so many questions!!!

But, I was thinking about the doll bozo--who claims he was "marketing" the idea of the doll (altho he only seemed to think of doing this the day before sales opened, and I don't think he would have been on tv except someone outed him.)

So, perhaps Baez and/or Conway think, how about we put the proposal of a jail house funeral (or memorial) out, get the public's reaction. Who knows? Maybe there would be enough people out there who think Casey should be able to have funeral (memorial) and meet w/her family w/out videos, w/out glass partitions. Now, WHY in the world they would think the public outcry would be in favor, I don't know (IF this is why they did it.)

Maybe something like this was going on in their heads, and the reason there hasn't been any requests @ the jail is because they were waiting to see if they got people who would say that, of course Casey should be able to have this special privilege. Guess they have their answer. I must admit I have not read local public opinion--in the comment sections of the newspapers--don't know how the locals feel. But, the TH's seem to think it is reasonable--they just know it isn't likely it will happen.

[lorettalockhorn]

I guess I need to look @ the transcript of the show. Because I was thinking she was indicating that even if what he would be involved in was covering up after, tampering w/evidence, that that could change putting the DP back. @ the time, I was shaking my head, because the way she put it, I was thinking, Lee's involvement would make charges against HIM, but would not change anything against Casey. They already state they can prove it's premeditated, so getting anything against Lee would not change THAT. Now, if they found Lee was involved in the actual crime (and I don't think he was, and prosecution says she acted alone) THAT again, would have them look @ asking for LWOP or DP for HIM, not Casey.

I think some of the TH's (and LP, of course) just get going with something, and aren't thinking of what they are saying.

IMO The State already has enough aggravating circumstances (including premeditation) to make this a death penalty case, but I've seen plenty of arguments against it. If there was a conspiracy before, during, or after the murder, that would be another felony charge. And of course Lee would be charged if he was/is the co-conspirator.

And back to Luka for one more second, I don't see what possible good it does for him to remind the public that Lee cooperated with LE and specifically mention DNA. Helllllooooo how long did it take for Lee to submit to a DNA test? And to the best of my knowledge, he never submitted to a polygraph.

Luka seems nice enough, but I don't see how his offering up comments to the media is in the best interests of his client.

[Amy]

Private meeings. Private funeral. For the love of Mike, this girl never thought anything about taking a piss in public and now she's an introvert? I cannot imagine that the OC jail would allow for anything more private than what could be muttered through a phone receiver. And that's exactly how it should be.

I wonder, do these lawyers think that, because this is a high-profile case they should have special privileges? If this wasn't on the front page, the lead story for NG, and JVM, and on GVS and LKL, even Bill O'Riley and Hannity!!! would these lawyers be asking for all these special considerations? Probably not. Casey would just be another mom in jail for killing her baby, they would prepare her defense (maybe even vigorously prepare her defense, but IF they asked her to be able to attend the funeral, once the ruling came down, they would return to trial preparation. Would they be asking for motions and delays? Maybe so, just we would not know about it, if it wasn't high profile. But, I really truly think some of their didoes are ONLY because this is high profile. Gets THEM front and center in front of the camera, continually, and I do think high profile is the only reason some are even in the game.

[Native Alien]

IMO The State already has enough aggravating circumstances (including premeditation) to make this a death penalty case, but I've seen plenty of arguments against it. If there was a conspiracy before, during, or after the murder, that would be another felony charge. And of course Lee would be charged if he was/is the co-conspirator.

And back to Luka for one more second, I don't see what possible good it does for him to remind the public that Lee cooperated with LE and specifically mention DNA. Helllllooooo how long did it take for Lee to submit to a DNA test? And to the best of my knowledge, he never submitted to a polygraph.

Luka seems nice enough, but I don't see how his offering up comments to the media is in the best interests of his client.

I think that there is something to the fact that the family of the victim has to agree with the DP being on the table and at the present the state knows that the A's won't agree to it.

I can understand not taking polygraph, because of medication, because I can see where the stress could cause false readings. But medication will not affect DNA.

I have to agree with you about Luka's statements. I think that if Lee were smart he would get another attorney to represent him.

[Justice Denied?]

I can't believe it. Could that in-jail funeral really happen? No one's going to go for that, right??! Casey already attended Caylee's funeral when she stuffed her in a trash bag. Sorry, she had her chance.

And what's the deal with the defense trying to get the prosecution thrown off the case? On what grounds? Worst defense ever.

I think Casey said her goodbyes when she placed the heart sticker on the duct tape and wrapped Caylee in a Winnie the Pooh blanket. That's enough!

I think Bozo is saying gave the Bar Association the info about his entertainment deal. That wasn't true so pros attorneys need to go. May be more to it. I'm not sure.

[Amy]

IMO The State already has enough aggravating circumstances (including premeditation) to make this a death penalty case, but I've seen plenty of arguments against it. If there was a conspiracy before, during, or after the murder, that would be another felony charge. And of course Lee would be charged if he was/is the co-conspirator.

And back to Luka for one more second, I don't see what possible good it does for him to remind the public that Lee cooperated with LE and specifically mention DNA. Helllllooooo how long did it take for Lee to submit to a DNA test? And to the best of my knowledge, he never submitted to a polygraph.

Luka seems nice enough, but I don't see how his offering up comments to the media is in the best interests of his client.

EXACTLY. The two reporters on NG yesterday said they have checked and there are no charges pending, there are no plans @ this time to FILE charges against Lee, and that the only person who keeps bringing this up is HIS LAWYER. WHY NOT SHUT THE HECK UP, IF THERE ARE NO CHARGES PENDING? WHY keep bringing it up that they MIGHT bring charges? For one who INSISTS that his client has done nothing wrong, and there have been NO MOVES to charge him--WHY? Oh, I get it!!!! HIS client is LEE ANTHONY. And, George is in the news, and the funeral/memorial is in the news--NO ONE IS WONDERING ABOUT LEE. If stuff about Lee has quieted down, his lawyer doesn't need to be in front of the camera, so let's keep things roiled up so Lee's lawyer can continue to be asked to be on the shows, for reporters to dog him to ask questions. IMO

[Justice Denied?]

Yes I do believe you are right and she had 3 illigimate kids 2 she gave away and one she kept. When she married Lee they had one together which they called their "GOlDEN CHILD" and they names him Scott Peterson. He was golden alright, they paid a million for his defense to Mark Garagos who is still a little imbarassed about how that turned out I am sure. He was so cocky, swarging into court with his cell phone to his ear and his sun glasses on. I wonder if the Petersons feel like they got their monies worth. I love the fact that SP is on DP. I have heard he is writing to Casey. Birds of a feather.

From what I understand the rumor about Scott Peterson writing to Casey, according to jail officials. There was a man named Scott Peterson from CA writing to her but it was not the Scott Peterson who killed Lacy and Conner.

[Amy]

I think that there is something to the fact that the family of the victim has to agree with the DP being on the table and at the present the state knows that the A's won't agree to it.

I can understand not taking polygraph, because of medication, because I can see where the stress could cause false readings. But medication will not affect DNA.

I have to agree with you about Luka's statements. I think that if Lee were smart he would get another attorney to represent him.

From what I understand, prosecution gets opinion about DP from family, but they are not required to abide by the family's feelings. I do think prosecution does try to take into account how the family feels, but not always, and it's not required.

That's like, sometimes there are plea agreements, and the DA informs the family, listens to their opinions, but there are times plea agreements are taken when the family really wants the trial to take place.

[Amy]

I think Casey said her goodbyes when she placed the heart sticker on the duct tape and wrapped Caylee in a Winnie the Pooh blanket. That's enough!

I think Bozo is saying gave the Bar Association the info about his entertainment deal. That wasn't true so pros attorneys need to go. May be more to it. I'm not sure.

I never got to hear (if it was ever said) what the prosecution says about whether or not they were behind the "anonymous" tip to the bar association. SO, whether Baez actually has proof it came from the prosecution or not, this is another good smoke and mirror, a delay caper.

I don't know about the anonymous tip line being set up for the public only, if there is a stipulation that other lawyers have to go thru other means to report a fellow lawyer. If I want to report a doctor or another nurse to the Healing Art or Nursing boards, I can do so anonymously. Just because I work in the field does not mean that I have to put my name to a complaint.

[Gatordog]

Parents Seek Private Meeting With Casey Anthony
Lawyer Wants Attorney General To Take Over

POSTED: Wednesday, January 28, 2009
UPDATED: 12:50 pm EST January 28, 2009
ORLANDO, Fla. -- The attorney for the parents of Casey Anthony is trying to arrange a private, face-to-face jail meeting between his clients and their daughter.

Casey Anthony, 22, who remains jailed on first-degree murder charges in the death of her daughter, Caylee, has not seen or spoken to her family in more than three months. Jail visitations are permitted, but they are videotaped and made public as a part of the discovery process, so the Anthonys have not met with their daughter.

Attorney Brad Conway said he plans to ask the Orange County Jail to allow Casey Anthony's mother, Cindy Anthony, and possibly her father, George Anthony, to privately visit their daughter.

The remains of Caylee were found in December in a wooded area near the east Orange County home she shared with her mother and grandparents. George and Cindy Anthony want to see their daughter to talk about Caylee's death, so Conway said he will ask the jail to arrange a private, face-to-face meeting and possibly hold a small memorial service at the jail. Their last jail visit was made in mid-October.

An Orange County Jail official said the request has not been made. He said it would be highly unusual. Typically, only attorneys and clergy are permitted to meet with inmates face-to-face, and the Orange County Jail has never allowed any type of memorial service.

Local 6 News reported that it would be possible for the Anthonys to have a video visitation with their daughter that is not recorded, but authorities would have to agree to it. A call to the Orange County Sheriff's Office about the possibility has not yet been returned.

http://www.clickorlando.com/news/18582240/detail.html?treets=orlpn&tml=orlpn_12pm&ts=T&tmi=orlpn_12pm_1_10550101282009#-

Oh boy, if I were in her shoes, I'd be begging, no pleading with the warden not to put me in a room with my parents. I'd even shake if we were going to talk through that video set up. Maybe that's why she's trying to avoid going to court - doesn't want Mommy and Daddy to see her.

Gator

[Gatordog]

I never got to hear (if it was ever said) what the prosecution says about whether or not they were behind the "anonymous" tip to the bar association. SO, whether Baez actually has proof it came from the prosecution or not, this is another good smoke and mirror, a delay caper.

I don't know about the anonymous tip line being set up for the public only, if there is a stipulation that other lawyers have to go thru other means to report a fellow lawyer. If I want to report a doctor or another nurse to the Healing Art or Nursing boards, I can do so anonymously. Just because I work in the field does not mean that I have to put my name to a complaint.

From what WESH reported, the State's Attorney had every right to report a possible ethical problem. Bill Schaeffer said they were obligated to do it and that the Judge will not remove the attorneys.

Gator

[Gatordog]

God bless you good folks who teach and truly love children.

Was reading really late last night, and I think in the child neglect report, Casey had stated that she wanted to make DPS her vocation. WTF

(Maybe I better read that again with fresh eyes.)

That's part of her psychological make-up. She becomes whoever she is with. A social worker talks to her, so that's what she wants to be. George tells her he's working with missing children foundations, that's what she wants to do. Maybe she talked to an undertaker one day...

Gator

[javahog]

So science geeks: let's say I get a blood transfusion and then leave a drop of blood at the crime scene. What does that do to the results? (really, its not OT, I'm thinking through something here...)

[Gatordog]

I think half the crap that goes on is just stuff from the lawyers to keep smoke and mirrors going to divert from the fact that the prosecution has the goods on Casey. Put out motions to delay the inevitable, the trial that will result in Casey being behind bars forever. The focus in the news lately has been George and Lee--not CASEY. Gotta keep HER in the news, ya know. Stuff meant to try to get people to be sympathetic to her--poor girl, her little girl has been id'd as the body in the woods, don't all you mothers out there understand her need to grieve her baby's death? PROBABLY ONLY THE OTHER MOMS THAT HAVE KILLED THEIR BABIES. The rest of us, not so much.

Maybe it's part of their plan to get the trial moved to Miami. The only attorneys talking about the case to the media are the Anthony attorneys. I don't hear the state's attorneys or LE running their mouths off. I have come to believe that Bozo Baez is causing the feeding frenzy among the media on purpose. He want the trial to go to Miami where he feels at home. That's why he is being so thoughtful and accommodating to Univision and Telemundo. All he needs is one juror for a hung jury and the best place for him to get it is Miami. Don't forget Johnny Cochran wanted OJ's trial moved to that part of LA for a reason. The jurors loved Cochran.

The Judge has to move the trial to a city with similar demographics to Orlando. I pray he moves it to Jacksonville or Tampa. Actually, instead of moving the trial, it would be better to have those jurors sequestered here in Orlando so they can visit all the sites. Let them see how close Caylee was "dumped" to her house.

Gator

[shadydaisy]

Oh boy, if I were in her shoes, I'd be begging, no pleading with the warden not to put me in a room with my parents. I'd even shake if we were going to talk through that video set up. Maybe that's why she's trying to avoid going to court - doesn't want Mommy and Daddy to see her.

Gator

Absolutely, especially since the incident with George. I guess I'm hoping that something will push her over the edge and I think seeing her dad could have that effect.

On the jailhouse funeral topic - Florida may be different but in 25 years with the DOC, we never had a funeral service of any kind. Meeting with clergy, yes, but not a service.

When a family member dies an inmate can request a compassion visit and be allowed to attend the funeral with guards. There is a lot of criteria that has to be met, and being accused of killing the individual would exclude you. Seems reasonable.

[javahog]

That's part of her psychological make-up. She becomes whoever she is with. A social worker talks to her, so that's what she wants to be. George tells her he's working with missing children foundations, that's what she wants to do. Maybe she talked to an undertaker one day...

Gator

lol! and then a stripper, and then an imbezzler...poor girl was just interning, why are we all so judgmental?

[lorettalockhorn]

I think that there is something to the fact that the family of the victim has to agree with the DP being on the table and at the present the state knows that the A's won't agree to it.

I can understand not taking polygraph, because of medication, because I can see where the stress could cause false readings. But medication will not affect DNA.

I have to agree with you about Luka's statements. I think that if Lee were smart he would get another attorney to represent him.

What kind of medication is Lee supposedly on? All these months and he couldn't have found time to help LE by agreeing to a lie detector? Puhleez No one in this family has lifted a hand to find Caylee (unless Lee can prove it with his PI Handbook), and still no one lifts up Caylee's memory.

[lorettalockhorn]

I think Casey said her goodbyes when she placed the heart sticker on the duct tape and wrapped Caylee in a Winnie the Pooh blanket. That's enough!

I think Bozo is saying gave the Bar Association the info about his entertainment deal. That wasn't true so pros attorneys need to go. May be more to it. I'm not sure.

Amen with your summary of Casey's private funeral for Caylee.

If I'm remembering correctly, it was pointed out on one of The Anthony Shows last night, that the vehicle for reporting misconduct was meant to be by private citizens reporting anonymously, and it would in itself be a bar violation of some type for the prosecution to have reported malfeasance in this manner. In other words, attorneys have their own methods of reporting each other.

[One2Snoop]

January 28th, 2009 12:33 PM Eastern
will there be a funeral for Caylee Anthony in the jail?
by Greta Van Susteren

Just got this email from OTR Producer Justin Wells….apparently many wonder if Caylee Anthony will have a funeral in the jail…read:

From: Allen Moore
Sent: Wed Jan 28 11:11:10 2009
Subject: 090128 News Release - Orange County Jail has received no request or communication about an in-jail funeral

The Orange County Jail has received no request or communication about an in-jail funeral memorial for Caylee Anthony

No interviews are being granted regarding this matter. Please use the release below for any quotes.

Due to several media and citizen contacts regarding this issue, we are publishing the following statement:

There have been media reports about the possibility of an in-jail family funeral memorial for Caylee Anthony. No such request has been received by the Orange County Corrections Department. If a request is received, we will respond appropriately based on departmental policy and procedure.

Normally we do not respond to “what if” questions, however, I am authorized to say “it is highly unlikely such a request would be granted. Our consistent policy in regards to Casey Anthony’s incarceration is to treat her no differently than any other inmate in her custody status.”

To our knowledge, no in-jail funeral memorial has ever been allowed by our agency.

As reported earlier, Casey Anthony’s charges would forbid a community leave to attend a private memorial service or private viewing of remains. This is covered under existing jail policy.

Allen Moore, JD, APR
Public Information Officer
Orange County Corrections Department
Orange County Government, Florida

http://gretawire.foxnews.com/2009/01/28/will-there-be-a-funeral-for-caylee-anthony-in-the-jail/

[javahog]

That means this request for a service with the family together at the jail is a lie/rumor/hoax? Who the heck is spouting this crap, Steven King? It's a horror show dammit! I can't even imagine the prisoners are going to get homelees for their victims now. I know it's a real self indulged generation and the sense of entitlement is over the top these days but Jaysus! Caylee Anthony would rather chew glass than have a service at her only place of refuge from her family. What do they want her to have a service with them for Caylee for? Caylee is in paradise compared to her life with Casey. They need to get over this illusion about Casey. This crime isn't redeemable. IMO

This is what gets me...there hasn't seemed to be any communication twixt Casey and the Anthony clan (unless JB is sending messages, doubt that...) so who's bright idea is this? Cindy have some cheery little fantasy about the bonding experience of mutual grieving? Its no wonder they have stocked her slush find so she can buy lotions and cosmetics, Cindy must be worried about Casey's self-esteem. Wouldn't want anything to happen to that!

[joekuhl79]

What if BS Bozo Baez was drinking a lot of the Casey Koolaid, and bought her story word-for-word?

He'd likely expect that soon Caylee would turn up, Casey would go free and be vindicated, and he'd be famous. So he wouldn't waste time on any kind of 'investigating' or 'defense' or anything, aside from a couple statements to the media about "wait until you hear Caseys side".

Uh-oh...suddenly a body turns up and he's caught with his pants down! He knows what the state has, and knows Caseys goose is cooked. So now he starts in with these BS (hey!) motions to remove prosecutors and waive Casey from going to hearings (so that she can claim inadequate representation on appeal WHEN (not IF) she's convicted)...

What school is he teaching at?!

[javahog]

I Agree NA. I think the defense will eat Annie alive. She may not be credible because she has dirty hands. The Anthonys must be counting on that. She may have given Casey xanax illegally and or sold them to her. And the judge is a good man, yessireeeeee!

As a juror, I wouldn't have a problem with that...someone who assisted in a murder and turned on the other, I would not necessarily believe. Someone who ante'd up about a "minor" crime to nail a murderer, that I would give credence to. No one in the group has clean hands, so the jury will be hearing a lot of testimony from party-loving trash, imo.

[One2Snoop]

http://i43.tinypic.com/2v2tc2h.jpgCOVER SNEAK PEEK: Caylee Anthony's Family Secrets
Originally posted Wednesday January 28, 2009 02:10 PM EST

Long before the remains of missing 2-year-old Caylee Anthony were discovered in December, deep fractures in the troubled Anthony family had already emerged, PEOPLE reports in its new cover story, on sale Friday.

On Jan. 22, George Anthony – whose daughter Casey, 22, is scheduled to go on trial in March for the murder of her daughter Caylee – was found by authorities in a Daytona Beach, Fla., motel room after sending suicidal text messages.

George, 57, and his wife Cindy, 50, "are both suffering beyond what you can imagine," says the family's attorney Brad Conway.

In an interview with the FBI last year, George said that he and his wife had separated for more than six months starting at the end of 2005. They reconciled, but there was no mistaking the rift between them.

"I've watched Cindy berate George over the littlest thing, just nasty, mean stuff," a source tells PEOPLE. "She'll say, 'George, you're so stupid,' in front of his friends."

Strained Relationships

Meanwhile, the relationship between Cindy and Casey – well before Caylee's murder – was even more strained. "They were always at each other's throats about something," says the source.

"Cindy would tell Casey she was immature, and Casey would tell Cindy she was ruining her life. They couldn't communicate if it wasn't for their fighting and bickering."

In emails dated August, after Caylee's disappearance, bitter tensions emerged between Cindy and her brother Rick Pleasea. "Casey is the only person that really knows where Caylee is and what really happened to her," Rick wrote to Cindy on Aug. 11, 2008.

"She is playing you, George and Lee like a base [sic] fiddle and has for years. You need to wake up."

http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20255306,00.html

[javahog]

Good point Jav. It stands to reason that you feel that way. If there was a witness to a murder who was a heroine addict, how would that get the killer free? The problem I see is that when there is a witness to pertinent information, and that witness has dirty hands, the defense turns them up side down and shakes that witnesses past crimes out all over the courtroom floor in the midst of objections galore. The jury gets to hear things that might make them queasy.

(I love that beautiful avatar!)

(thank you!)

Let's say hypothetically a witness said they gave Casey xanax to knock Caylee out for a party, and they joked about Zanny the Nanny. Oh, yeah, queasy time. But it would also nail that Caylee was drugged, and there was no Zanny. As for immunity for said witness, as long as evidence backed up the testimony, I could accept it.

Casey is so going up the river, imo.

[javahog]

Yes Jav. self esteme is the word of the day. The way it looks! What will the people say? Does blood tell? All of the seven deadly brain farts these people live with. Their social window dressings have been torn off! It's driving the matriarch nuts! She's bottom feeding with this service at the jail stuff. I believe it was her idea and hers alone.

(Sorry I used the name Caylee for Casey in my previous post. Very sorry)

(It would be a lot easier to type if the family didn't have such incestuous names!)

And, I am sure there is a wonderful service planned in the County Dorm;) If only the Dean would let them have it!

[Justice Denied?]

Absolutely, especially since the incident with George. I guess I'm hoping that something will push her over the edge and I think seeing her dad could have that effect.

On the jailhouse funeral topic - Florida may be different but in 25 years with the DOC, we never had a funeral service of any kind. Meeting with clergy, yes, but not a service.

When a family member dies an inmate can request a compassion visit and be allowed to attend the funeral with guards. There is a lot of criteria that has to be met, and being accused of killing the individual would exclude you. Seems reasonable.

What do you mean by "Push her over the edge?" That she would start talking nad tell the truth? I don't believe she ever will. I think she will take that info to the grave with her.

[Justice Denied?]

lol! and then a stripper, and then an imbezzler...poor girl was just interning, why are we all so judgmental?

Yeah, like she put the duct tape on Caylee's mouth because she fell down and bumped her head, like a bandaid, you know? Right!

[javahog]

I believe Casey and Cindy were at each other's throats. Why wouldn't they be? Casey was not self supporting. She wanted her cake and wanted to eat it too. She had a built in baby sitter and the full financial support of mommy and daddy. The problem arose when she refused to allow her mother to control her investments; Casey and her life style.

... unless they had a money tree in the back yard and.. never mind.

In many ways I can understand Cindy being a bitter one. She's working hard supporting the family, probably losing extra shifts taking care of Caylee, her daughter does jack to help the household (and based on her commissary purchases, ate them out of house and home), her husband lost a bunch of money...of course they all fought, of course people were nasty to each other. Bitterness made Cindy feed the Bad Wolf, imo...Now she denies because all the pain was for nothing otherwise...not that I excuse it...

[Justice Denied?]

ITA
Ya know what confuses me? When Casey called the house in that taped recording and asked for Tony's phone number, why did Lee have it? And why did she forget it?

Casey may be like I am, in that respect. I have all my phone numbers in my address book and my family on speed dial on my cell phone. I go to "address book" and push a name and never look at the number. I bet a lot of people do that.

[javahog]

Casey may be like I am, in that respect. I have all my phone numbers in my address book and my family on speed dial on my cell phone. I go to "address book" and push a name and never look at the number. I bet a lot of people do that.

Me too. I call my best friend 2-3 times a day. I THINK her number has an 8 in it...:)

[Justice Denied?]

This is what gets me...there hasn't seemed to be any communication twixt Casey and the Anthony clan (unless JB is sending messages, doubt that...) so who's bright idea is this? Cindy have some cheery little fantasy about the bonding experience of mutual grieving? Its no wonder they have stocked her slush find so she can buy lotions and cosmetics, Cindy must be worried about Casey's self-esteem. Wouldn't want anything to happen to that!

Cindy is still living in her fantasy world where "Casey loved that child". I would be willing to bet good money that this in jail funeral is all her idea. It may be that Casey doesn't know anything about it.

Speaking of which, will they wait until George is released to have a funeral or will he get a pass or something? I know he definitely needs to be there.

[javahog]

I kept having the visual that she duct taped her mouth while Caylee was in the trunk... then I got the theories through the media. (don't remember where, maybe LP) that the crime may have happened in the house. I can't see how she went over to the pocketbook or somewhere in the car to get the heart stickey and walk over to the child in the trunk and did that deed. She had to have been in the house where she had access to the stickeys, bed quilt and book.

Was is LP who said, the kid died in the house, she took her to the back yard, tried to bury her, it didn't work, so she put her in the car. etc, etc... ??? Trying to get bits and pieces of possibilities in this case is like trying to catch a fart in a hurricane.

At this point, Padilla is theorizing as much as any of us. He gave his theory based on the same evidence we are all looking at, nothing more, imo.

It is possible she died in the car...no telling how long she was dead before she was wrapped up, so it didn't have to happen in the house as long as she had access to the house at some point. Maybe Casey even had the little heart sticker on her laptop, just like LP's employee did...

[javahog]

Cindy is still living in her fantasy world where "Casey loved that child". I would be willing to bet good money that this in jail funeral is all her idea. It may be that Casey doesn't know anything about it.

Speaking of which, will they wait until George is released to have a funeral or will he get a pass or something? I know he definitely needs to be there.

I wish they'd hold a private funeral where HE is. Talk about pearls before swine! (Unless this is all a trick to get close enough to Casey to throttle her! That would be MY plan if I were Cindy...)

[Native Alien]

So science geeks: let's say I get a blood transfusion and then leave a drop of blood at the crime scene. What does that do to the results? (really, its not OT, I'm thinking through something here...)

There are biological changes that take place at a cellular level that would tell them that it was you regardless. Now, to clarify that point, and someone correct me if I am wrong here please, if they are doing dna which they do instead of using blood because it is way more specific, then they would be able to prove it was you that left the blood at the crime scene.

I think that I see where you are going with this one, but let me know if you have more questions.

[One2Snoop]

Baez PR Firm Issues Scathing Release After State Drops Investigation
The following release was emailed to WFTV by Press Corp Media on the afternoon of Tuesday, January 27, 2009:

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http://www.berry-designs.com/blog/wordpress/

The Florida Bar made the right decision by throwing out the absolutely ridiculous whining complaint by the State Attorney - just as with this communication Press Corps Media was solely responsible for a Media Release offering the observation that the only reason a grand jury was convened (at the time that it did) was because of the elections this past November. The State Attorney knew very well that attorney Jose Baez never made such a statement, but also knew that Press Corps Media is not under the thumb of the Florida Bar, so they decided to try to attack a totally innocent individual. Mr. Baez didn't deserve that, just as he hasn't deserved the filthy personal attacks by various media.

Orlando Channel 9 is the Poster Child for the "Deterioration of Journalism" and it's not surprising to see that station so quickly bury a POSITIVE story about Mr. Baez on their web site, but other media outlets are not exempt from their negative reporting, and shameless personal attacks.

In our 34 years of working with attorneys on high pressure cases, never have we witnessed such disgusting media conduct, and as Press Corps Media continues its proud work in behalf of The Baez Law Firm on Casey Anthony matters, all we can hope for is that reporters and News Directors try to remember that ETHICS AND PROFESSIONALISM is what was taught in journalism school, not blood-thirsty ratings. You have a child's life lost, you have another young adult life awaiting a serious trial, and you have a loyally dedicated and smart attorney that all deserve consideration and respect.

Thank you,

Todd Black PMK

http://www.wftv.com/news/18576374/detail.html#-

[One2Snoop]

On The Record W/ Greta
New Caylee Anthony Clues in Air Freshener and Garbage Bags?
Wednesday, January 28, 2009

GRETA VAN SUSTEREN, FOX NEWS HOST: Now to Florida, where former LAPD homicide detective Mark Fuhrman is on the ground investigating the murder of Caylee Anthony. Mark has been talking to investigators and has some inside information about the case. One clue involves air freshener, and another involves garbage bags.

Mark joins us live from Orlando. Mark, can we start with air freshener? What is that clue?

MARK FUHRMAN, FORMER LAPD HOMICIDE DETECTIVE: Well, you know, it is interesting, Greta. When you read the documents that were released, you see "air freshener sheet."

I kind of thought I knew what that was, but I got confirmation that it's actually the fabric softener sheets that you put in the dryer with clothes, and the most predominant brand is Bounce air freshener.

Now, the interesting part about this is they were not used. In other words, when they come out of the dryer, they look all crumpled like a hanky. They were actually folded and flat, like they look come out of a box. And they were specifically used to try to overcome the smell in the trunk.

VAN SUSTEREN: Garbage bags is also one of the clues that you're tracking, because-why did you pick garbage bags? Is it because of how the remains were found?

FUHRMAN: Not only the remains were found in a certain garbage bag, but you want to know what size they come in.

There was different colored handles or tie wraps that were used in several places in the descriptions, not only when they were out at some of the possible scenes, but what Caylee Anthony was actually in, the bag that she was in, the tie straps, what was taken from the home.

So we went out there, and we found out that there are black bags, all of which-they have yellow, blue -- they have red. They have different -- packages have different colored handles for how many in that certain bag, different brands. But, by in large, the red ones belong to a certain brand, the blue ones belong to another, and the yellow belong to another. So we wanted to go out there and figure this out a little bit so we would know what we were dealing with.

VAN SUSTEREN: What about the forensic examinations, the tests done the entomologists, the bug people, the soil people, the botanists? Has that come back yet? Has that given any indication as to the strength of the prosecution's case about when that body was placed, or the remains, actually, in that area?

FUHRMAN: Well, Greta, when you talk about the vegetation, the two leaves that were found, the soil samples from the shovel in the trunk - we have been told that hasn't come back yet. It was not in the documents that were released. Our information is that it has not come back from the FBI lab yet.

• Watch Greta's interview with Mark Fuhrman

I have a suspicion that that evidence collectively has not come back for a reason, and that reason, I believe, is that they are holding it back, and if they are hold it back, then they do not have to disclose it quite yet.

VAN SUSTEREN: Mark, one of the things -- we have seen an awful lot of documents coming out of Florida, which you do not see in many states, because they have this broad sunshine law where they have to surrender.

I know that the sheriff's department's thinks that it is getting criticized for releasing the documents, but I think the criticism, if there is some, should be directed at the state law if people don't like it, not the sheriff's department. Am I right?

FUHRMAN: Yes, you are right. And they are a little frustrated. They get hit by the media because these documents are released. What people really do not understand the Florida laws is that they think that they are really hurting the case and tainting the jury pool, and it would be hard to sit a jury and give a fair and impartial trial.

But Florida law is this. It goes from the investigator to the prosecutor. If the prosecutor files a charge, then the defense attorney is required to get discovery--in other words, the documents.

Once that discovery is complete, 24 hours later, those documents are released by the attorney general to anybody in the public that requests them.

Now, normally, the sheriff's department or the police department would ask certain media agencies to not do it for certain reasons -

VAN SUSTEREN: Yes, the media would be all over it on this one. Mark, thank you.

FUHRMAN: Thanks, Greta.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,484124,00.html

[eatcupcakes]

He's not writing to Casey - there's an article posted in the Peterson/Casey thread that disputes it. Just thought you might want to know.

To bad they would make a lovely couple, both baby killers

[eatcupcakes]

[QUOTE=Native Alien;9158324]I work with inmates in the State Prison system here in Ohio, and I can tell you that every state has no contact between felony inmates. Even if they are just charged and not yet convicted.

I would think that Florida has the same. It is to prevent the sharing of "stories". In other words to stop them from getting their stories straight when more than one person is charged with the commission of a crime.

Gator and cupcake, you two crack me up with the Bounce thing.

I agree that the county jail is not going to allow her to have any sort of "service" for Caylee in the jail. Simply because it would mean that they would have to do it for every person that they are holding. They are already having to give her protective custody status. That puts a hugh drain on resources for them and there is no way they are going to compound that with any type of service. She has both mental and spiritual health people at her beck and call basically.[/QUOTE


You make a lot sense to me Native, glad to make you laugh. We all need to laugh everyday. :biggrin:

[Justice Denied?]

Me too! I also think she's loving this family hell she made. If there was someone else involved, say, Lee helped somehow, then I think Jose knows it and Casey will throw him "under the bus if he testifies against her." She's got leverage somewhere. She's just giggles a little too much for me. She takes anyone to the dark side and gives them poison cookies. She's a dangerous SOB.

IMO

I have said that since the very beginning. Casey has something on the whole family. I have my suspicions what it could be but don't want to speculate right now. Whatever it is made G & C change from saying she should pay if she's guilty to defending her. She has something good that gets them to jump to her tune because they don't want it on national tv.

[Justice Denied?]

I kept having the visual that she duct taped her mouth while Caylee was in the trunk... then I got the theories through the media. (don't remember where, maybe LP) that the crime may have happened in the house. I can't see how she went over to the pocketbook or somewhere in the car to get the heart stickey and walk over to the child in the trunk and did that deed. She had to have been in the house where she had access to the stickeys, bed quilt and book.

Was is LP who said, the kid died in the house, she took her to the back yard, tried to bury her, it didn't work, so she put her in the car. etc, etc... ??? ]Trying to get bits and pieces of possibilities in this case is like trying to catch a fart in a hurricane.

That's because everytime you get a fact nailed down, you find outit came from one of the A's so you don't know if it is true or not. It's crazy making.

The visual I have is about the hamper. My granddaughter had a "Winnie the Pooh" folding clothes hamper that she kept her baby's clothes in to keep them separate from the regular laundry. Now I know no one said a Winniw the Pooh hamper, but I keep seeing that little body stuffed in that hamper. It just haunts me.

[Amy]

That means this request for a service with the family together at the jail is a lie/rumor/hoax? Who the heck is spouting this crap, Steven King? It's a horror show dammit! I can't even imagine the prisoners are going to get homelees for their victims now. I know it's a real self indulged generation and the sense of entitlement is over the top these days but Jaysus! Caylee Anthony would rather chew glass than have a service at her only place of refuge from her family. What do they want her to have a service with them for Caylee for? Caylee is in paradise compared to her life with Casey. They need to get over this illusion about Casey. This crime isn't redeemable. IMO

The one person that keeps saying this to the media is Brad Conway. I'm thinking that he brought this up, thinking that the public (or @ least SOME people) would be chiming in saying that Casey has a right to go to her daughter's funeral or to have a funeral @ the jail. I'm thinking he tho't the public would convince the jail to allow it, so that if he made the request, they might allow it if the hue and cry from the public was loud enough. Since the reaction was just the opposite, I don't think he will be making the request (or, he'd be smart to not do so) and this will soon drop off the media frenzy. And, he (or the A's or Baez or Casey or Lee) will moan and whine about how it didn't happen, and blame the system, even if he doesn't ask. IMO, of course.

My feeling about the A's lawyers (Conway, Baez, Luka) bring up stuff that may or may not be true, when they want attention distracted from something else that is going on. Or, their clients are not front and center in the news, OR---because the client (of whichever attorney) is not the focus, the lawyer doesn't get his airtime fix.

[Justice Denied?]

Me too. I call my best friend 2-3 times a day. I THINK her number has an 8 in it...:)

That was my point about why Casey didn't know Tony's number. You put a number in once and forget it. Things have changed since you had to have all the numbers in your head. When I checked myself, I knew 2 kids' numbers and 2 I didn't. No grandkid numbers.

[Amy]

Amen with your summary of Casey's private funeral for Caylee.

If I'm remembering correctly, it was pointed out on one of The Anthony Shows last night, that the vehicle for reporting misconduct was meant to be by private citizens reporting anonymously, and it would in itself be a bar violation of some type for the prosecution to have reported malfeasance in this manner. In other words, attorneys have their own methods of reporting each other.

I hear Baez saying that about the reporting was for private citizens, but I don't really take his word about legal issues, because he doesn't always seem to know his way around a paper bag, let alone the law. I didn't hear any of the TH's back him up on that (altho I did not see all the shows, and am sometimes distracted when I do have one on.) In fact it seems one of the TH's said the prosecution had the obligation to report suspicions they may have--and he didn't say they had to go about it in a different way.

I am a nurse. If I feel the need to report a doctor or another nurse, I can take advantage of the anonymous method, so can any doctor or nurse. Besides, since it is anonymous---the board doesn't have a clue WHO made the report. They are just obligated to look into the matter. I would think the same would be with the Bar Association--since the person lodging the complaint was ANONYMOUS, the association would not have a clue if that person was a private citizen or not.