Caylee Anthony Case Discussion Only

[SaraSidle]

I wonder WTH is going on now. Tim Miller is talking about pulling Equisearch (sp?) off Caylee's case. Is he really buying into Cindy's BS about Casey giving the child to someone? :eek:

either that Minga or he is disgusted that Casey will not help with the search.
they are tired and wet and that area is huge with bushes trees and swamps

[applesandorange]

I wonder WTH is going on now. Tim Miller is talking about pulling Equisearch (sp?) off Caylee's case. Is he really buying into Cindy's BS about Casey giving the child to someone? :eek:

Maybe he's not buying into Cindy's bs. Maybe he is sick of her nagging him. She is probably telling him "I don't see why you are doing this" etc etc. I think LE needs to let him know in no uncertain terms that they need him to stay.

[SaraSidle]

Cindy seems to be so in denial. she doesn't want the search to continue in the woods but wants everyone to go to Caylee sightings. on NG. IMO


I sure hope that car was fingerprinted outside and inside. IMO

[SaraSidle]

Maybe he's not buying into Cindy's bs. Maybe he is sick of her nagging him. She is probably telling him "I don't see why you are doing this" etc etc. I think LE needs to let him know in no uncertain terms that they need him to stay.

You know just when you think it cannot get worse......... wouldn't LE have to pay them to stay longer?

[One2Snoop]

I wonder WTH is going on now. Tim Miller is talking about pulling Equisearch (sp?) off Caylee's case. Is he really buying into Cindy's BS about Casey giving the child to someone? :eek:

Did you watch Nancy Grace tonight? If not, try and catch the re-run. Cindy being interviewed :cuss: :eek: should tell you all you need to know as to why he's thinking of pulling Equusearch. I can't blame him.

ITA with you Amy! and so sorry for your loss. :rose:

[One2Snoop]

Maybe he's not buying into Cindy's bs. Maybe he is sick of her nagging him. She is probably telling him "I don't see why you are doing this" etc etc. I think LE needs to let him know in no uncertain terms that they need him to stay.

I think thats exactly it!

[Amy4]

Ok, guys, I'm calm now. Sorry about that earlier stuff. What did Padilla say there at the very end of NG??? Something about a dumpster down from the boyfriends house??? What is LE?

[One2Snoop]

I missed the last few minutes of NG. Transcripts should be up soon.
LE stands for Law Enforcement

[Amy4]

Thanks to all of you. Thanks for telling me what LE means. I'm sure Padilla said something about a dumpster down from the boyfriend's (Tony) house. My daughter was talking to me and I didn't catch it. I think he said something about FBI evidence found in the da*n dumpster. I KNOW THAT BIT*H DID NOT PUT THAT BABY IN A DUMPSTER..... I'm pretty sure they'll be beating the hell out of her in prison if that's the case...maybe even kill her. I hope it's slow and painful. I hate people who hurt their children and people like me who wants nothing more than her children have to go through the death of one of them. This world is so unfair and I have LOTS of questions for God when I get there.

[ErrinSpelling]

Even though I'm way up here in Indiana, I have been checking children in the stores to see if Caylee is the little girl standing over there. Anyway, I have lost a child, 6 year old little girl to death from an auto accident. As HARD (which doesn't even describe the horror of it) as it is, George and Cindy, you are so far up denials a*s that you can't grasp reality any longer. The whole world knows that Caylee is deceased--WE WISH TO GOD THAT SHE WASN'T. GEORGE--WE DO CARE ABOUT CAYLEE. Most of us feel it was probably an accident. But, seriously, YOU CAN'T BE THAT FU**ING STUPID--WAKE UP PEOPLE. If I was Casey and I knew that someone took my daughter AND she's probably still alive, NO ANKLE BRACELET OR COP WOULD STOP ME FROM TRYING TO FIND HER. INSTEAD, people are out searching the woods, swamps, etc...George and Cindy, Do you think Caylee is out there in the swamps running around playing??????? They are looking for the baby's body so that YOU, her grandparents, may lay her to rest in peace. Amen. God help us all.

i am so sorry, for you & your little girl, amy.:rose:

[susie31023]

i am so sorry, for you & your little girl, amy.:rose:

I am so very sorry Amy. I can't imagine the pain you must feel...For you and your little angel...:rose::rose:

[One2Snoop]

Read this elsewhere....

Padilla made the statement on NG when she asked what he thought and he said Cindy is living in denial. He added to that about evidence coming out and the dumpster would be part of it. He said a dumpster located 1-1/4 mi. from TonE's is going to play a part in all this.

[brandy]

Read this elsewhere....

Is Padilla guessing on that? It sounds like he knows more than hes saying.

[applesandorange]

Is Padilla guessing on that? It sounds like he knows more than hes saying.

I was wondering the same thing. I wonder if he didn't do his own investigation and knows more than he is willing to say. I also wonder if LE didnt advise him to keep Casey locked up and gave him a bit of info as to why. I really don't think at this point Padilla would talk out his butt without knowing for sure what he was saying to be true. He already looked like an ass. I don't think he would add to that. JMO

[applesandorange]

Read this elsewhere....


He also said that Cindy and Lee have known since Wednesday but he didn't mention George. I wonder why that is?

[ErrinSpelling]

i heard denial, but missed the rest:i think i just got too upset, after hearing cindy tell NG: eventually you guys are going to put caylee in a coffin...she said it so calmly...they're all ready to blame everyone, when caylee doesn't come back alive.

[brandy]

I was wondering the same thing. I wonder if he didn't do his own investigation and knows more than he is willing to say. I also wonder if LE didnt advise him to keep Casey locked up and gave him a bit of info as to why. I really don't think at this point Padilla would talk out his butt without knowing for sure what he was saying to be true. He already looked like an ass. I don't think he would add to that. JMO

I agree. Unless hes the type that thinks any publicity is good publicity. It seems anyone whos around that family is bonkers though.

What he said still sounds fishy.. I do honestly think he knows something.

[brandy]

i heard denial, but missed the rest:i think i just got too upset, after hearing cindy tell NG: eventually you guys are going to put caylee in a coffin...she said it so calmly...they're all ready to blame everyone, when caylee doesn't come back alive.

How can she say that so calmly about her own grandchild?! I thought she was in denial about Caylee being dead?

Theres so much flip flopping with that granny I swear something is wrong here.:cuss:

[ErrinSpelling]

How can she say that so calmly about her own grandchild?! I thought she was in denial about Caylee being dead?

Theres so much flip flopping with that granny I swear something is wrong here.:cuss:

i couldn't even say that ,that calmly about caylee & i'm not related.if i believed that i would have yelled it ,at NG....i'm sorry, but she almost sounded like
a defense attorney.i'm listening to her mistruths & thinking casey leaned how to tell mistruths, from cindy.

[applesandorange]

i couldn't even say that ,that calmly about caylee & i'm not related.if i believed that i would have yelled it ,at NG....i'm sorry, but she almost sounded like
a defense attorney.i'm listening to her mistruths & thinking casey leaned how to tell mistruths, from cindy.


ITA!! If that was me I would have shouted at NG that nobody is helping to find my grandaughter. I would have been begging the public on NG to find Caylee and begging whoever has her to bring her home. Cindy was just so calm and relaxed. She sounded like she doesn't want people searching for Caylee because she knows she's dead and she doesn't want to face it. She doesn't want to face it either because it is much too awful to think about or because she doesn't want Casey to be found out. Or both. This lady is a real whacko. I say Casey definitely learned her habits from her mom.

[brandy]

ITA!! If that was me I would have shouted at NG that nobody is helping to find my grandaughter. I would have been begging the public on NG to find Caylee and begging whoever has her to bring her home. Cindy was just so calm and relaxed. She sounded like she doesn't want people searching for Caylee because she knows she's dead and she doesn't want to face it. She doesn't want to face it either because it is much too awful to think about or because she doesn't want Casey to be found out. Or both. This lady is a real whacko. I say Casey definitely learned her habits from her mom.

ITA How can she NOT be on Casey's ass about finding Caylee? what the he!! I think they all know what happened and are just trying to cover it up.

[crowamongdoves]

I don't know how to post links yet I'm still new at this, but while looking for info on this case I found this site that a girl in Tennessee called CA and said that her and her friends were going to go look for Caylee and then she heard CA say not to and she wanted to know why they shouldn't and she recorded the phone call!

It's at www.myspace.com/caseyanthonyneedsprison4life

[SaraSidle]

I don't know how to post links yet I'm still new at this, but while looking for info on this case I found this site that a girl in Tennessee called CA and said that her and her friends were going to go look for Caylee and then she heard CA say not to and she wanted to know why they shouldn't and she recorded the phone call!

It's at www.myspace.com/caseyanthonyneedsprison4life

Wow. that girl is good. thank you

[brandy]

I don't know how to post links yet I'm still new at this, but while looking for info on this case I found this site that a girl in Tennessee called CA and said that her and her friends were going to go look for Caylee and then she heard CA say not to and she wanted to know why they shouldn't and she recorded the phone call!

It's at www.myspace.com/caseyanthonyneedsprison4life

Good hunting! Thanks

[crowamongdoves]

Your welcome Sara & Brandy

There's also a call she made to LP and he says that Casey is a goofy girl and that he thinks that Caylee, could have fallen off TonE's balcony. He also says that Casey was hitting on his partner Rob while they were down there!

[SaraSidle]

Your welcome Sara & Brandy

There's also a call she made to LP and he says that Casey is a goofy girl and that he thinks that Caylee, could have fallen off TonE's balcony. He also says that Casey was hitting on his partner Rob while they were down there!

I wonder why he is saying that. pretty weird.

[SaraSidle]

Nancy Grace transcript for Tuesday, Sept 2nd...

NANCY GRACE

Missing Toddler`s Mother Reportedly Turns Down Immunity Offer

Aired September 2, 2008 - 20:00:00 ET

THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.


NANCY GRACE, HOST: Breaking news tonight. Police desperately searching for a beautiful little 3-year-old Florida girl, Caylee, after her grandparents report her missing, little Caylee now not seen for 11 long weeks, last seen with her mother. So why didn`t Mommy call police?
Headlines tonight. The deadline comes and goes, mom, Casey, turning down an immunity deal in the search for her own little girl. Translation, what she knows, she`s not telling.

Now we learn even more criminal charges expected against mom, Casey.

And tonight, just released, recent 911 calls from the Anthonys to police. Grandmother, Cindy, shows up on national TV insisting Caylee is still alive and attacking police, claiming they are doing nothing to find the little girl. She claims forensic evidence pointing to Caylee`s death is out of context.

And tonight, mom, Casey, back behind bars for cleaning out a so-called friend`s checking account. This as investigators go on the record, confirming there is forensic evidence of human decomposition in mom, Casey`s, car trunk, and all indicators are it was 3-year-old Caylee. Mom, Casey, digging in her heels tonight, still offering not a single clue as to the little girl`s whereabouts as volunteer searches go on yet another day today. Where is 3-year-old Caylee?

(BEGIN AUDIO CLIP)

911 OPERATOR: 911. What`s the emergency?

GEORGE ANTHONY, MISSING TODDLER`S GRANDFATHER: I have protesters on my -- they`re knocking on my front door. They`re trying to come in. They`re breaking my door.

911 OPERATOR: You want to meet with a deputy?

GEORGE ANTHONY: Yes, ma`am. I need someone here to get these people off. They`re knocking on my front door.

911 OPERATOR: How many people? Approximately how many?

GEORGE ANTHONY: I have five people right now.

911 OPERATOR: Did you see any weapons with them?

GEORGE ANTHONY: Ma`am, I have no idea. I haven`t opened up the door because they`re trying to break in through our door, ma`am.

911 OPERATOR: OK. We`re sending someone out there as soon as we can.

GEORGE ANTHONY: Thank you.

911 OPERATOR: You`re welcome. Bye-bye.

(END AUDIO CLIP)

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

CINDY ANTHONY, GRANDMOTHER OF MISSING TODDLER: She`s not dead! No one`s found her yet.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

(BEGIN AUDIO CLIP)

CINDY ANTHONY: There`s something wrong. I found my daughter`s car today and it smells like there`s been a dead body in the damn car.

(END AUDIO CLIP)

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Have you asked your daughter, Where`s Caylee?

CINDY ANTHONY: Yes, I did.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: And where is she?

CINDY ANTHONY: She doesn`t know.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Why?

CINDY ANTHONY: Because someone took her.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

GRACE: Good evening. I`m Nancy Grace. I want to thank you for being with us tonight. The desperate search for 3-year-old Florida girl Caylee Anthony.

(BEGIN AUDIO CLIP)

911 OPERATOR: 911. What is your emergency?

CINDY ANTHONY: I have about 50-plus protesters outside my house. They`re all on my property. I have "No trespassing" signs on. This is Cindy Anthony calling.

911 OPERATOR: OK.

CINDY ANTHONY: They`re all out there screaming "Murderer" and stuff. And I have people trying to come into my house and they`re disrupting them, and I don`t want a riot to start outside my home. So if someone could send a deputy by, I would appreciate it.

911 OPERATOR: All right. We`ll get someone out there as soon as we can.

CINDY ANTHONY: All right. Thank you. I don`t think they even have a permit for their protest.

911 OPERATOR: OK.

CINDY ANTHONY: All right. Thank you. Bye-bye.

(END AUDIO CLIP)

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: When you called in and says, It smelled like there`s a dead body in my daughter`s car, why did you say that for? Because you know there was a dead body there!

CINDY ANTHONY: No, I don`t.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: You`re a liar! Why did you say it, then? Why did you say it!

(END VIDEO CLIP)

GRACE: Straight out to Mark Williams with WNDB Newstalk. Mark, what`s the latest?

MARK WILLIAMS, WNDB NEWSTALK 1150: Well, the big story today, of course, Nancy, was the deal for limited immunity that expired at 9:00 o`clock this morning, basically, the opening of business at the county attorney`s office, and she did not take it, nor did her attorney, Jose Baez, take advantage of that.

And of course, as you know, Nancy, that the deal would have been if she would have talked about where she may have placed Casey`s (SIC) body or given the whereabouts of Caylee`s body, she would not have been prosecuted but they could have used any evidence gathered to use that against her in the investigation, and of course, any subsequent trial. That is the big thing that happened today. No movement there whatsoever. So she still remains in the Orange County jail.

GRACE: We are taking your calls live. Back to Mark Williams with WNDB Newstalk. We just played a portion of a 911 call where the Anthonys are calling police regarding protesters there in their front yard. Now, we have heard intimations by the Anthonys, police are doing nothing to help them. Didn`t police show up in regard to that 911 call?

WILLIAMS: Four cruisers showed up that night. Several of them were unmarked cruisers. Most of them were marked. But they showed up. And that was before the arrest of Casey Anthony later that evening.

The deal is, the protesters showed up. It was an Internet sort of deal that they all got together on the Internet and they showed up Friday night. I don`t know if you need a permit to assemble there because it is on public property. There were about 50 protesters. Everything was fine. They -- the police presence, of course, kind of quieted things down, but it could have become really ugly.

GRACE: What exactly are they protesting, Mark Williams?

WILLIAMS: Well, they`re protesting Casey Anthony herself. They were holding signs accusing Casey of being literally a baby killer, and that`s kind of what they`re thinking of. They think that Casey Anthony should come to trial, she should be convicted. But let`s just put it in context. A, the biggest thing is she is innocent until proven guilty. She has not been proven guilty yet.

GRACE: You know, Mark, I appreciate that tutorial on the law, but I was simply trying to find out what the drift is of the protesters out in the front yard. They are becoming increasingly angry. Also grandmother, Cindy Anthony, has shown up on national TV claiming that police are doing nothing to help find Caylee. Take a listen.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

continued...

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0809/02/ng.01.html


thanks so much One2Snoop

[INGASON14]

I wonder WTH is going on now. Tim Miller is talking about pulling Equisearch (sp?) off Caylee's case. Is he really buying into Cindy's BS about Casey giving the child to someone? :eek:

Minga unless I misunderstood Nancy Grace last night. I was under the impression he was thinking of pulling out due to Casey's BS that she has been dealing everyone. He stated that there were other people who really needed him and he felt like he was being played. There is also some tense between Tim and Cindy so I think there is more to this then meets the eye. Nancy was also asking Cindy about the phone records, and why haven't the police released them, it was pretty tense last night on Nancy. Cindy stated that they like Caylee is in Texas, Mexico or Puerto Rico


***This is my opinion

[odette]

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Amscot: Where Car Was Parked

[applesandorange]

I don't know how to post links yet I'm still new at this, but while looking for info on this case I found this site that a girl in Tennessee called CA and said that her and her friends were going to go look for Caylee and then she heard CA say not to and she wanted to know why they shouldn't and she recorded the phone call!

It's at www.myspace.com/caseyanthonyneedsprison4life


Did you hear the recorded phone conversations? I am wondering what they said. It seems the girl who owns the myspace page has since taken down the phone calls. I am very curious as to what Cindy said.

[applesandorange]

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Amscot: Where Car Was Parked


Thanks Odette. Now what I'm wondering is is that the same dumpster that Padilla talks about being 1 1/4 miles from TonE's house?

[Ruzzty]

Thanks Odette. Now what I'm wondering is is that the same dumpster that Padilla talks about being 1 1/4 miles from TonE's house?

There is another Amscot just north of their home. Its in a strip mall that's on the corner of Curry Ford and Chickasaw. I didn't see a dumpster but would imagine its behind the business more so than that Amscot on Highway 50. Padilla probably thought that that particular Amscot is where they found the car. Even I am unsure of the exact Amscot they found the car. If its on HW50 as shown in that photo.... then what made that spot appealing? Bus stop? Close to friends home?? unsure....

[soccermom]

Thanks Odette. Now what I'm wondering is is that the same dumpster that Padilla talks about being 1 1/4 miles from TonE's house?


I know me too----as he said it right at the end of the show (NG) and i wanted to hear more but ughhh it was over. Plus he said the grandmother is in major denial LOL i was saying that a long time

Poor Caylee where ever she may be --- i hope they find her soon so us and others who fell in love with her can have closure:rose:

[applesandorange]

World Will Be 'Shocked' In Caylee Case, Bounty Hunter Says - Family Reports More Tips In Texas (http://www.local6.com/news/17377554/detail.html)


Wow! You learn something new about this case everyday. Now Zany is a character in a children't book. Padilla says that Zany the nanny is in a chidlren's book and is a hero. I was wondering how Casey chose that name. Now I know.

Padilla also says he thinks Casey told Cindy and Lee the truth about Caylee on Wed. I have thought that they knew the truth. Has anyone heard anything or seen anythign about Lee since Wed? I don't think I have. I wonder if Lee has finally washed his hands of the whole thing.

[applesandorange]

There is another Amscot just north of their home. Its in a strip mall that's on the corner of Curry Ford and Chickasaw. I didn't see a dumpster but would imagine its behind the business more so than that Amscot on Highway 50. Padilla probably thought that that particular Amscot is where they found the car. Even I am unsure of the exact Amscot they found the car. If its on HW50 as shown in that photo.... then what made that spot appealing? Bus stop? Close to friends home?? unsure....


I think I heard before that the Amscot was in a strip mall. I'm not sure where I heard that though.

[Notknowingall]

I wonder if Cindy and Lee are willing to go to jail to protect Casey? If they are charged and jailed, would they come out with what they know; or will Casey finally come clean to save mom and pops?

[odette]

There is another Amscot just north of their home. Its in a strip mall that's on the corner of Curry Ford and Chickasaw. I didn't see a dumpster but would imagine its behind the business more so than that Amscot on Highway 50. Padilla probably thought that that particular Amscot is where they found the car. Even I am unsure of the exact Amscot they found the car. If its on HW50 as shown in that photo.... then what made that spot appealing? Bus stop? Close to friends home?? unsure....

Thank you Ruzzty! :)

[odette]

There is another Amscot just north of their home. Its in a strip mall that's on the corner of Curry Ford and Chickasaw. I didn't see a dumpster but would imagine its behind the business more so than that Amscot on Highway 50. Padilla probably thought that that particular Amscot is where they found the car. Even I am unsure of the exact Amscot they found the car. If its on HW50 as shown in that photo.... then what made that spot appealing? Bus stop? Close to friends home?? unsure....

Ruzzty, regarding the Amscot photo's which I posted; have I got the correct location/address please? .. tia

7501 E Colonial Dr Orlando, FL

Fact #4: The car was later found abandoned at the Amscot at Goldenrod and Colonial and was towed. When Casey's parents found out and got it back weeks later, Caylee's disappearance began to unravel. Caylee's grandmother called 911 and made a frantic plea for help.

"There's something's wrong! I found my daughter's car today and it smells like there's been a dead body in the damn car!" Cindy Anthony said in the call.

http://www.wftv.com/news/17136493/detail.html

[joekuhl79]

Did you watch Nancy Grace tonight? If not, try and catch the re-run. Cindy being interviewed :cuss: :eek: should tell you all you need to know as to why he's thinking of pulling Equusearch. I can't blame him.

ITA with you Amy! and so sorry for your loss. :rose:

So, towards the end of the show last night, while Nancy was talking to Cindy, Cindy says something about the phone records, and that SHE has them, and that they show incoming calls - refuting what LE has said. Nancy says "Then release the phone records!" Cindy says "Huh?!" Nancy repeats "WHY DON'T YOU RELEASE THE PHONE RECORDS YOU HAVE AND PROVE IT?!?!" Cindy is silent for too long, and mumbles something about finding Caylee, and that her "gut" tells her that Caylee is in Texas, Mexico, or Puerto Rico.

Up until now, I believed that Cindy was a distraught grandmother in deep denial that her child could/would kill HER own child, and was reaching beyond belief to hope that Caylee could still be alive. But after some things yesterday, including this phone call to NG, I'm now convinced (as many here are) that she is working hard at covering this up.


She is completely ignoring hard evidence.
She claims she has phone records but is dumbstruck and speechless when asked why she doesn't release them.
Everywhere that there is a tip, or that her 'gut' tips her is far, FAR away from areas that need searched. New York? Texas? Mexico? Yeah, let's look there so that it's less likely that anyone will discover where she REALLY is, and maybe Casey can get out/off, come home, get back to what's really important: chatting, clubbing, whoring around, getting knocked up again after a one-night stand so that she can have another child to ruin.

Ugh!

[Notknowingall]

So, towards the end of the show last night, while Nancy was talking to Cindy, Cindy says something about the phone records, and that SHE has them, and that they show incoming calls - refuting what LE has said. Nancy says "Then release the phone records!" Cindy says "Huh?!" Nancy repeats "WHY DON'T YOU RELEASE THE PHONE RECORDS YOU HAVE AND PROVE IT?!?!" Cindy is silent for too long, and mumbles something about finding Caylee, and that her "gut" tells her that Caylee is in Texas, Mexico, or Puerto Rico.

Up until now, I believed that Cindy was a distraught grandmother in deep denial that her child could/would kill HER own child, and was reaching beyond belief to hope that Caylee could still be alive. But after some things yesterday, including this phone call to NG, I'm now convinced (as many here are) that she is working hard at covering this up.


She is completely ignoring hard evidence.
She claims she has phone records but is dumbstruck and speechless when asked why she doesn't release them.
Everywhere that there is a tip, or that her 'gut' tips her is far, FAR away from areas that need searched. New York? Texas? Mexico? Yeah, let's look there so that it's less likely that anyone will discover where she REALLY is, and maybe Casey can get out/off, come home, get back to what's really important: chatting, clubbing, whoring around, getting knocked up again after a one-night stand so that she can have another child to ruin.

Ugh!

ITA with you there. Wish someone would go up to Cindy and :punch: some sense into her.

[ErrinSpelling]

ITA!! If that was me I would have shouted at NG that nobody is helping to find my grandaughter. I would have been begging the public on NG to find Caylee and begging whoever has her to bring her home. Cindy was just so calm and relaxed. She sounded like she doesn't want people searching for Caylee because she knows she's dead and she doesn't want to face it. She doesn't want to face it either because it is much too awful to think about or because she doesn't want Casey to be found out. Or both. This lady is a real whacko. I say Casey definitely learned her habits from her mom.

i agree with every single thing you say apples....
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now trying to catch up..i don't know what's wrong with me.i much watch too many defense attorneys on NG, b/c when i see odette's pictures, i didn't notice the dumpsters,i thought look at that wide open space,1000's of cars ...anyone could put a dead body in the car , they could say...

then for the nanny in the book...well that just proves casey was a good mother, who read to her child & she's so upset, her mental problems caused her to believe that nanny has her daughter...oh brother!

[ErrinSpelling]

So, towards the end of the show last night, while Nancy was talking to Cindy, Cindy says something about the phone records, and that SHE has them, and that they show incoming calls - refuting what LE has said. Nancy says "Then release the phone records!" Cindy says "Huh?!" Nancy repeats "WHY DON'T YOU RELEASE THE PHONE RECORDS YOU HAVE AND PROVE IT?!?!" Cindy is silent for too long, and mumbles something about finding Caylee, and that her "gut" tells her that Caylee is in Texas, Mexico, or Puerto Rico.

Up until now, I believed that Cindy was a distraught grandmother in deep denial that her child could/would kill HER own child, and was reaching beyond belief to hope that Caylee could still be alive. But after some things yesterday, including this phone call to NG, I'm now convinced (as many here are) that she is working hard at covering this up.

____________SORRY
and adding to the way she acted about the phone records,a few days before,i believe i read here,cindy went to simon birch, & tried to get him, to change his story about smelling a dead body, to smelling food..
i 'm going to guess it was an article odette put here, but the night before,i saw cindy tell a mistruth & say simon birch said he smelled rotten food.

___________


Ugh!
sorry i messed up

[INGASON14]

I wonder if Cindy and Lee are willing to go to jail to protect Casey? If they are charged and jailed, would they come out with what they know; or will Casey finally come clean to save mom and pops?

Notknowingall, just not sure if this typo or not but Lee is Casey's brother, I am not sure about Lee knowing anything except maybe he is done with all of Casey's lies. Now George and Cindy to me is another story. I think that Cindy needs to keep talking so she can hang herself. She knows and I agree is doing everything to try and cover this all up. George is a retired homicide detective so he would know how to cover this all up.


***This is my opinion

[applesandorange]

So, towards the end of the show last night, while Nancy was talking to Cindy, Cindy says something about the phone records, and that SHE has them, and that they show incoming calls - refuting what LE has said. Nancy says "Then release the phone records!" Cindy says "Huh?!" Nancy repeats "WHY DON'T YOU RELEASE THE PHONE RECORDS YOU HAVE AND PROVE IT?!?!" Cindy is silent for too long, and mumbles something about finding Caylee, and that her "gut" tells her that Caylee is in Texas, Mexico, or Puerto Rico.

Up until now, I believed that Cindy was a distraught grandmother in deep denial that her child could/would kill HER own child, and was reaching beyond belief to hope that Caylee could still be alive. But after some things yesterday, including this phone call to NG, I'm now convinced (as many here are) that she is working hard at covering this up.


She is completely ignoring hard evidence.
She claims she has phone records but is dumbstruck and speechless when asked why she doesn't release them.
Everywhere that there is a tip, or that her 'gut' tips her is far, FAR away from areas that need searched. New York? Texas? Mexico? Yeah, let's look there so that it's less likely that anyone will discover where she REALLY is, and maybe Casey can get out/off, come home, get back to what's really important: chatting, clubbing, whoring around, getting knocked up again after a one-night stand so that she can have another child to ruin.

Ugh!


ITA with EVERYTHING you have said!!

[Notknowingall]

Notknowingall, just not sure if this typo or not but Lee is Casey's brother, I am not sure about Lee knowing anything except maybe he is done with all of Casey's lies. Now George and Cindy to me is another story. I think that Cindy needs to keep talking so she can hang herself. She knows and I agree is doing everything to try and cover this all up. George is a retired homicide detective so he would know how to cover this all up.


***This is my opinion

You are correct. It was a mistake on my part. I did mean George and not Lee.

[odette]

i agree with every single thing you say apples....
---
now trying to catch up..i don't know what's wrong with me.i much watch too many defense attorneys on NG, b/c when i see odette's pictures, i didn't notice the dumpsters,i thought look at that wide open space,1000's of cars ...anyone could put a dead body in the car , they could say...

then for the nanny in the book...well that just proves casey was a good mother, who read to her child & she's so upset, her mental problems caused her to believe that nanny has her daughter...oh brother!

Errin .. The dumpster in the photo I posted has an enclosure around it. Open to correction. :)

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[odette]

Quote: Caylee's grandmother, Cindy Anthony, told the Sentinel that she received a letter informing her that the car was found abandoned and had been towed. The white 1998 Pontiac was towed June 30 from an Amscot Financial store at Colonial Drive and Goldenrod Road, said sheriff's spokesman Carlos Padilla. End Quote

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/community/news/conway/orl-caylee2008jul20,0,2486087.story

[ErrinSpelling]

Errin .. The dumpster in the photo I posted has an enclosure around it. Open to correction. :)

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:eek:thank-you for the close -up...i didn't see the enclosure either...if there is an enclosure around the cars too,i don't see it.

[joekuhl79]

:eek:thank-you for the close -up...i didn't see the enclosure either...if there is an enclosure around the cars too,i don't see it.

I'm lost on what you're talking about! What enclosure around what cars?

[ErrinSpelling]

I'm lost on what you're talking about! What enclosure around what cars?

i'm sorry joe,i was just being silly,thinking what a defense attorney would say, b/c george said the body in the car was not cay.lee
...like at trial, they could say anyone could easily put a body in that car, from the picture.

[Its just me]

I am so far behind on the events that I'm almost out of touch but I saw a small portion of Cindy on NG last night and the woman appeared to be on meds. She was different than the last time I saw her speak on TV. I personally don't think Cindy was covering for Casey in the beginning but I certainly believe she has switched over. I agree with the members who think George has covered all along. I think he may have found out the day he found the gas cans or all that was staged to get the car cleared on that day there has always been something fishy about the gas cans. If anyone breaks mentally in this family it will be Cindy but she should know better than telling lies for her crazy daughter. I wish Caylee had been adopted but since she wasn't...one positive is at least now this baby is at peace in heaven and not among these idiots. No offence intended..I just believe it with all my being. fep

:rose: For Caylee

[Brainstorm]

ITA fep.

[One2Snoop]

Good to hear Eqqusearch is staying and continuing the search. It is, after all, about the search for Caylee and whatever comes to Casey, Cindy and George once she's found is in LE's hands. IMO.

[ErrinSpelling]

Link: Group Decides To Stay, Continue Search For Caylee Anthony (http://www.wftv.com/news/17340180/detail.html)

that was nice of the sheriff to provide airboats & 5000.00...i'm glad tim was able to explain , why he was thinking of leavingb/c last night i was afraid NG was going to start yelling at him, b/c he couldn't answer her questions.

[SaraSidle]

Good to hear Eqqusearch is staying and continuing the search. It is, after all, about the search for Caylee and whatever comes to Casey, Cindy and George once she's found is in LE's hands. IMO.

I am glad they are staying too. I wish they had more volunteers. Every day something is added to this case to make it more confusing. I have no idea what is going on with any of the Anthonys and I have no trust in Padilla. I just hope the police are not telling anyone and Caylee is found soon. Otherwise everyone will walk and Casey with get away with the charges she has at this time and maybe a few more financial. Even if Caylee is found at this time any evidence may not be usable in court. Errin I do not think you are far from the truth. Having the vehicle abandoned for 3 days and than at the toward the defense will be all over that. No chain of evidence. IMO just depressing

[One2Snoop]

9/3/08 11:00am Eastern Time - FROM TIM MILLER, TEXAS EQUUSEARCH

The Orange County Sheriff's Office has requested that Texas Equusearch remain in Orlando and continue the search for Caylee. They have given TES $5,000, 25 airboats, and the resources of the mounted patrol team to work with. Texas Equusearch will be continuing in the search.

If you had heard that TES was leaving, they are not leaving at this time. If you can participate, volunteers are desperately needed, both in the physical search and at the command center. Please stay tuned to this site for future updates. We will update as quickly as possible if any changes occur.

http://www.pleasefindcaylee.com/NEWS___.php

[Notknowingall]

http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/crime/2008/09/03/ng.tot.grandmom.cnn

[deacon]

I am glad they are staying too. I wish they had more volunteers. Every day something is added to this case to make it more confusing. I have no idea what is going on with any of the Anthonys and I have no trust in Padilla. I just hope the police are not telling anyone and Caylee is found soon. Otherwise everyone will walk and Casey with get away with the charges she has at this time and maybe a few more financial. Even if Caylee is found at this time any evidence may not be usable in court. Errin I do not think you are far from the truth. Having the vehicle abandoned for 3 days and than at the toward the defense will be all over that. No chain of evidence. IMO just depressing

If, and I do say if, the fluid they found was blood in the back of her car, they still have a very, very strong case. One thing about people who fall into the category with casey, they want their story told their way. It is part of what has caught serial killers in the past. They just can't keep their mouth shut. I feel they have a lot more evidence than they are showing at this time. I am sure they have not released all of it and some may suprise us. IMO they are putting out there what they think will make her "spill the beans" on herself. I doubt she will wait to terribly long.

[SaraSidle]

ORLANDO, Fla. -- Sheriff's investigators filed additional charges against Casey Anthony, the mother of missing toddler Caylee Anthony, on Wednesday afternoon.

The additional charges include two counts of uttering a forged check, two counts of petty theft and two counts of fraudulent use of personal identification.

Link: New Charges Filed Against Casey Anthony (http://www.wesh.com/news/17377729/detail.html)

HHHmmmmm More bail money is needed. THank you LE and Tim Miller

[odette]

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http://www.ocso.com/Default.aspx?tabid=547

[applesandorange]

I read elsewhere the theory that Casey burned Caylee's remains and shoveled them up. If this is true I believe it was on her father, George's recomendation. IF this is what happened what would the search team be looking for at this point? Is there anything to even find if Caylee was reduced to ashes? Would there even be any evidence left? Would cadaver dogs be able to sniff that if they were buried somewhere? I'm just wondering if anyone knows the answers to this. TIA

[deacon]

I read elsewhere the theory that Casey burned Caylee's remains and shoveled them up. If this is true I believe it was on her father, George's recomendation. IF this is what happened what would the search team be looking for at this point? Is there anything to even find if Caylee was reduced to ashes? Would there even be any evidence left? Would cadaver dogs be able to sniff that if they were buried somewhere? I'm just wondering if anyone knows the answers to this. TIA

I would think bones. Sorry to be so direct but bone fragments are not completely turned to ash even in cremation.

[applesandorange]

I would think bones. Sorry to be so direct but bone fragments are not completely turned to ash even in cremation.


Thanks! I didn't even think of that. I just wonder if she has the bones and ashes somewhere. Maybe that's why Cindy is so cocky with "they haven't found a body yet" JMO

[minga]

I read elsewhere the theory that Casey burned Caylee's remains and shoveled them up. If this is true I believe it was on her father, George's recomendation. IF this is what happened what would the search team be looking for at this point? Is there anything to even find if Caylee was reduced to ashes? Would there even be any evidence left? Would cadaver dogs be able to sniff that if they were buried somewhere? I'm just wondering if anyone knows the answers to this. TIA

Apple, gasoline would not reduce the body to ashes. It would burn her to the point of not being able to identify the body without dental records (which she probably does not have) or they would have to extract dna if it's possible.

To incinerate a body would take a furnace or something of extremely high heat. I am not certain but I think the minimum is 1200 degrees of heat to reduce a body to ash and bone fragments. I seriously doubt Casey had access to something of this sort. And George should know it would take more heat than gasoline.

It's a good question about burned bodies and cadaver dogs. I'd like to know too.

[applesandorange]

Apple, gasoline would not reduce the body to ashes. It would burn her to the point of not being able to identify the body without dental records (which she probably does not have) or they would have to extract dna if it's possible.

To incinerate a body would take a furnace or something of extremely high heat. I am not certain but I think the minimum is 1200 degrees of heat to reduce a body to ash and bone fragments. I seriously doubt Casey had access to something of this sort. And George should know it would take more heat than gasoline.

It's a good question about burned bodies and cadaver dogs. I'd like to know too.

Thanks so much for answering this. I admit being stupid with burning bodies so I'm so glad you could answer. Knowing that I doubt George would have told her to do that although he still could have because of not being able to identify the body. Who knows. Thanks for your help.

[minga]

Thanks so much for answering this. I admit being stupid with burning bodies so I'm so glad you could answer. Knowing that I doubt George would have told her to do that although he still could have because of not being able to identify the body. Who knows. Thanks for your help.

That's not a stupid question Apple. I think it's something many people wouldn't know off hand. It's a good question and I wondered after you asked if George may have been able to arrange something of the sort, but he is essentially a nobody in Orlando. I doubt he would have any contacts and I doubt anyone would owe him favors. His former LE status would mean nothing there and if he did do something like find a furnace and someone to help that someone would have come forward by now. Hopefully.

[samanthajane13]

"Originally Posted by applesandorange
I read elsewhere the theory that Casey burned Caylee's remains and shoveled them up. If this is true I believe it was on her father, George's recomendation. IF this is what happened what would the search team be looking for at this point? Is there anything to even find if Caylee was reduced to ashes? Would there even be any evidence left? Would cadaver dogs be able to sniff that if they were buried somewhere? I'm just wondering if anyone knows the answers to this. TIA"

I DO know that if a burned area is found, gas chromatograph\mass spectrometry should be able to identify any accellerants (sp?), and I THINK there are dogs that work by sniffing accellerants, too. I think they work along the same lines as bomb-sniffing dogs.

[ErrinSpelling]

Sources: Chloroform Found In Casey Anthony's Car - Evidence Collected From Caylee Anthony Searchers (http://www.wesh.com/news/17377729/detail.html?treets=orl&tml=orl_break&ts=T&tmi=orl_break_1_03330409032008http://www.wesh.com/news/17377729/detail.html?treets=orl&tml=orl_break&ts=T&tmi=orl_break_1_03330409032008)

oh no!..casey & scott peterson,looking things up ,on the computer, to murder...

[ErrinSpelling]

Free Again? Bounty Hunter Offers To Re-Post Bond (http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=7351737&version=6&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=3.1.1)

:confused:why in the world does he want her to be out of jail, until trial,when he believes she killed caylee?

[One2Snoop]

Sources: Chloroform Found In Casey Anthony's Car - Evidence Collected From Caylee Anthony Searchers (http://www.wesh.com/news/17377729/detail.html?treets=orl&tml=orl_break&ts=T&tmi=orl_break_1_03330409032008http://www.wesh.com/news/17377729/detail.html?treets=orl&tml=orl_break&ts=T&tmi=orl_break_1_03330409032008)


:eek: SAY WHAT? :eek:

[One2Snoop]

Free Again? Bounty Hunter Offers To Re-Post Bond (http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=7351737&version=6&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=3.1.1)

:eek: WHAT THE ????? :eek: Is there a full moon out tonight? OMG after all Padilla said about her he's thinking of bailing her out again? :no: :punch:

[ErrinSpelling]

:eek: SAY WHAT? :eek:

i know.i guess we will be hearing bombshell ,after every commercial on NG tonight.
all i can say is ,thank goodness people can read sociopaths computers,b/c they need all the help they can get at trials...she looks up chloroform...who was that guy who shot his wife & himself , at the beach & looked up chest wounds & bought breastplate.

[beachbum]

Thanks odette for your information. I just dont even go to the news anymore I just come to this website. You are doing a great job keeping us informed.

[Amy4]

Thanks to everyone who previously on here extended their condolences to me on my loss. My angel's name is Allison. :rose:

I just wanted to say that I thought I had this all figured out, but watching NG last night, I'm wondering if the boyfriend may have done something to Caylee. We all know that, for example, if there are 10 drunk guys in a bar and 1 woman and she is raped by them, that the only person coming out of that bar claiming there was a rape would be the woman. Men stick together on EVERYTHING. Maybe the boyfriend killed her. He would never say and in that case, HOPEFULLY, Casey really does not know what's happened to her. Did Casey ever let her boyfriend drive her car? He could've placed Caylee in the trunk. Just a thought.


I did also want to say, that if I thought I saw Caylee, I would grab her in whatever store/restaurant I'm in and yell for someone to call the police. If the child isn't Caylee, surely they would understand that you just thought that this was the missing child from Florida. It's not like you've kidnapped the child because you would not actually leave the place. All of these so called people who have seen Caylee, why haven't any of them done this? Did any of them call the police and follow them???? I know I would. I'd get a description of them and the vehicle and a license plate....

[odette]

Thanks odette for your information. I just dont even go to the news anymore I just come to this website. You are doing a great job keeping us informed.

Thank you beachbum .. I appreciate your kind words.

For Caylee :rose:

[One2Snoop]

"Cindy Anthony was on national TV demanding an apology from the sheriff's office," Local 6's Louis Bolden said at the news conference.

"(It) won't happen," Beary said after a chuckle. "It won't happen. We are doing our job. What we need is credible information, especially from her daughter and that is a message I send back to her."

Just who does CA think she is? :eek: :no:

[beachbum]

Thanks to everyone who previously on here extended their condolences to me on my loss. My angel's name is Allison. :rose:

I just wanted to say that I thought I had this all figured out, but watching NG last night, I'm wondering if the boyfriend may have done something to Caylee. We all know that, for example, if there are 10 drunk guys in a bar and 1 woman and she is raped by them, that the only person coming out of that bar claiming there was a rape would be the woman. Men stick together on EVERYTHING. Maybe the boyfriend killed her. He would never say and in that case, HOPEFULLY, Casey really does not know what's happened to her. Did Casey ever let her boyfriend drive her car? He could've placed Caylee in the trunk. Just a thought.


I did also want to say, that if I thought I saw Caylee, I would grab her in whatever store/restaurant I'm in and yell for someone to call the police. If the child isn't Caylee, surely they would understand that you just thought that this was the missing child from Florida. It's not like you've kidnapped the child because you would not actually leave the place. All of these so called people who have seen Caylee, why haven't any of them done this? Did any of them call the police and follow them???? I know I would. I'd get a description of them and the vehicle and a license plate....


Well you would have to be very careful if you tried this. It might be better if you followed them and called the police while doing so. So many people are lawsuit happy they might file some type of charges against you by snatching their child---- even though you were trying to do the right thing. They havent exactly given any personal markings or birthmarks for Caylee except her age and of course we have seen her picture. I know with Madeline they told about her hazel eyes how one of them had a line thru it. ITA that if these people are spotting Caylee heaven forbid get on the phone and call authorities.

So sorry about losing your child. My sister has a son that lived 11 days but developed kidney failure. Cant imagine how painful it is to give up sweet ones but just remember they are God's littliest angels.

[Brainstorm]

OMG,Im watching this on NG,right now. OMG !!!

[One2Snoop]

OMG,Im watching this on NG,right now. OMG !!!

Lovin' it! NG's all over Kobilinsky! He needs to shut up IMO.

[ErrinSpelling]

Lovin' it! NG's all over Kobilinsky! He needs to shut up IMO.

omg,i'm getting this terrible feeling koblinsky is going to work for the defense..it just registered, last night he said the defense called him.

[soccermom]

I am watching it too right now and loving it---NG is great!!!!!!!

Chloroform found in tot mom's car----so i guess its not accidental like some think---this woman is horrible!!!!

I wish they find Caylee that poor little girl---alot of people came to love her and needs closure and gosh the grandparents need it too as they are in major denial.

[ErrinSpelling]

tim had respect still, for the family last night....so i think that means he doesn't today?

[SaraSidle]

Excerpt: 5:31 p.m. Preliminary results from the FBI lab show that chloroform - a type of chemical capable of putting someone to sleep - was found in the back of Casey Anthony's car, a source said.

Its role in the Caylee's disappearance is not clear.

Chloroform has been depicted in movies and television shows when a person uses a rag soaked in the liquid to cover the mouth and nose of another, making them lose consciousness.

A person can die if too much of the chemical is inhaled.

According to numerous Web sites, chloroform can form when chlorine comes in contact with skin, sweat or urine.

Chloroform found in Casey Anthony's trunk (http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/orange/orl-casey-anthony-jail-090308,0,7110266.story)

So it could be something used in the pool or involves bleach.........IMO

[SaraSidle]

omg,i'm getting this terrible feeling koblinsky is going to work for the defense..it just registered, last night he said the defense called him.

Oh Yeah Nancy figured that one out last night. good catch Errin

[ErrinSpelling]

Oh Yeah Nancy figured that one out last night. good catch Errin

it's bad enough they always have 2 defense attorney's every night...i can't handle 3,if that's what koblinsky or kobi , as NG calls him, is going to do.

[soccermom]

I had to laugh last night when the grandma said it was 30 diapers in the trunk----first she said it smelled like a dead body/then rotten pizza/ and then now its 30 diapers----now come on i dont put my son diapers in the car trunk-----major denial !!!!!!what a woman.

[One2Snoop]

Just reported on NG - Casey told friends she used chloroform for work! :eek: What WORK?

[One2Snoop]

it's bad enough they always have 2 defense attorney's every night...i can't handle 3,if that's what koblinsky or kobi , as NG calls him, is going to do.

He's a forensic specialist.

Forensic scientist Lawrence Kobilinsky of the John Jay College of Criminal Justice at City University of New York

[soccermom]

just reported on ng - casey told friends she used chloroform for work! :eek: what work?


lol!!!!!!

[SaraSidle]

I have to leave for a while. Can someone please tell me why Padilla is posting bond if he is? that does not make sense. I am wondering now how much Tone is involved. Also there is not going to be a lot of evidence in my opinion after this long that can really tie it up unless someone talks. IMO Thanks and THanks Odette. you are faster than NG even and I knew you would be...........

[ErrinSpelling]

He's a forensic specialist.

sorry i was being a smart alec, not clear...it will feel like 3 defense attorneys if he's on their side...

[soccermom]

I have to leave for a while. Can someone please tell me why Padilla is posting bond if he is? that does not make sense. I am wondering now how much Tone is involved. Also there is not going to be a lot of evidence in my opinion after this long that can really tie it up unless someone talks. IMO Thanks and THanks Odette. you are faster than NG even and I knew you would be...........



I heard he is posting it --- only if she tells him where Caylee is

Ya right!!!! doubt it

[ErrinSpelling]

But cindy & george are making up stories & misleading, so will they get in trouble , with LE?according to defense attorneys they will get in trouble ,if they do this.

[ErrinSpelling]

my head is spinning just thinking about all the things , from odette's links, that just cindy made up....1.she said people aren't searching,that 1000's of people called her & said they believe caylee is alive, so they won't search...that was on NG last night.

[ErrinSpelling]

we are going to hear that phrase again,i bet & i have already forgotten it...was it such elaborate, creative lies?

[SaraSidle]

I heard he is posting it --- only if she tells him where Caylee is

Ya right!!!! doubt it

I am back soccermom. You are so right in my opinion. At this point she has nothing to lose. I really hope she does not get away with it.....IMO

[SaraSidle]

Just reported on NG - Casey told friends she used chloroform for work! :eek: What WORK?

universal,kodak (a lot there) and fusion to name a few. It would be intresting to hear those conversations with the friends. You know I think as cold and pathological as she is she is very intelligent in many ways. what a huge waste of Casey and Caylee.

[One2Snoop]

I just read something earlier that said Casey hadn't worked in over two years. :confused: She was lying to everyone about having a job.

[lorettalockhorn]

Thanks so much for the links guys! You're the best (AND the fastest)!

I'm a little confused as to why Casey (or anyone) would need chloroform on someone as tiny as Caylee. If she wanted to render her unconscious, wouldn't drugs be easier to obtain?

[loulou58]

I said before I thought she was drugging Caylee to go out and party, she may have gotten carried away with it. I have researched it since the news and it appears it would not take much to actually cause a little ones heart to stop. :( I knew all along something was going on while she partied after leaving her Cindys because no one reported that they had babysat for her. It just did not add up. Also explains WHY SHE NEVER CALLED 911.....She knew she couldn't tell them she accidentally overdosed her baby on a toxic chemical that is illegal to use.... UggHHHH...THIS CASE IS REALLY GETTING TO ME!!

[SaraSidle]

Thanks so much for the links guys! You're the best (AND the fastest)!

I'm a little confused as to why Casey (or anyone) would need chloroform on someone as tiny as Caylee. If she wanted to render her unconscious, wouldn't drugs be easier to obtain?

I was wondering that to loretta. I am also wondering if chloroform leaves no trace in the system like drugs:shrug:

[SaraSidle]

I said before I thought she was drugging Caylee to go out and party, she may have gotten carried away with it. I have researched it since the news and it appears it would not take much to actually cause a little ones heart to stop. :( I knew all along something was going on while she partied after leaving her Cindys because no one reported that they had babysat for her. It just did not add up. Also explains WHY SHE NEVER CALLED 911.....She knew she couldn't tell them she accidentally overdosed her baby on a toxic chemical that is illegal to use.... UggHHHH...THIS CASE IS REALLY GETTING TO ME!!

I think you are right Loulou sounds very probably imo

[SaraSidle]

I just read something earlier that said Casey hadn't worked in over two years. :confused: She was lying to everyone about having a job.

And that means she had to be stealing from everyone she could at the time. She really is a good liar.

[lorettalockhorn]

I was wondering that to loretta. I am also wondering if chloroform leaves no trace in the system like drugs:shrug:

Boy, I don't know. It just seems to me that it would be easier to trace the source of chloroform than it would be to trace the source of drugs. Aren't drugs everywhere? (Especially in Casey's world?) So she researched chloroform use. But where would she get it and who would help her?

Hope this is a great lead.

[applesandorange]

I said before I thought she was drugging Caylee to go out and party, she may have gotten carried away with it. I have researched it since the news and it appears it would not take much to actually cause a little ones heart to stop. :( I knew all along something was going on while she partied after leaving her Cindys because no one reported that they had babysat for her. It just did not add up. Also explains WHY SHE NEVER CALLED 911.....She knew she couldn't tell them she accidentally overdosed her baby on a toxic chemical that is illegal to use.... UggHHHH...THIS CASE IS REALLY GETTING TO ME!!

ITA! Remember the friends comments about how Caylee would sleep through anything? I thought that was rather odd. Another thing was nobody was babysitting Caylee while Casey was partying. I just hope that Caylee didn't suffer. If she used this Caylee most likely just went to sleep. As awful as it is I would rather her to have died this way than a painful way.

[ErrinSpelling]

Boy, I don't know. It just seems to me that it would be easier to trace the source of chloroform than it would be to trace the source of drugs. Aren't drugs everywhere? (Especially in Casey's world?) So she researched chloroform use. But where would she get it and who would help her?

Hope this is a great lead.
i think people on another board are trying to order it, on their computers & it seems to be easy, but i also saw a post that tells how to make it & unfortunately, that sounds like a 6 year old could make it.

[SaraSidle]

Boy, I don't know. It just seems to me that it would be easier to trace the source of chloroform than it would be to trace the source of drugs. Aren't drugs everywhere? (Especially in Casey's world?) So she researched chloroform use. But where would she get it and who would help her?

Hope this is a great lead.

I do not know Loretta but investigators say Casey had looked up some websites about chloroform. This whole thing mystifies me. I have never seen anything like it. there is something new every day and it is very confusing.

[SaraSidle]

ITA! Remember the friends comments about how Caylee would sleep through anything? I thought that was rather odd. Another thing was nobody was babysitting Caylee while Casey was partying. I just hope that Caylee didn't suffer. If she used this Caylee most likely just went to sleep. As awful as it is I would rather her to have died this way than a painful way.

me too Applesandorange. Me too.

[One2Snoop]

i think people on another board are trying to order it, on their computers & it seems to be easy, but i also saw a post that tells how to make it & unfortunately, that sounds like a 6 year old could make it.

People are ordering it? :rolleyes: Thats taking it just a bit to far IMO.

[ErrinSpelling]

ITA! Remember the friends comments about how Caylee would sleep through anything? I thought that was rather odd. Another thing was nobody was babysitting Caylee while Casey was partying. I just hope that Caylee didn't suffer. If she used this Caylee most likely just went to sleep. As awful as it is I would rather her to have died this way than a painful way.

i remember & i hope she didn't suffer also.

[lighthousedazy]

ITA! Remember the friends comments about how Caylee would sleep through anything? I thought that was rather odd. Another thing was nobody was babysitting Caylee while Casey was partying. I just hope that Caylee didn't suffer. If she used this Caylee most likely just went to sleep. As awful as it is I would rather her to have died this way than a painful way.
Just a few words. I had hoped that the baby was alive too, but I don't think so, and I agree I hope she just went to sleep too, versus blunt force trauma or being smothered. I guess you can get anything off the internet, but chloroform hasn't been available to the public since the 1970's because it can be very lethal. If Casey wanted Caylee just to sleep, she could have given the baby a teaspoon of benadryl and she would have slept and not died. That is why I think this was premeditated murder. Yes, I know, innocent until proven guilty. JMO :rose:

[ErrinSpelling]

People are ordering it? :rolleyes: Thats taking it just a bit to far IMO.

yes it is...they were stopping at a certain point & then someone made a joke about how tomorrow, all the companies are going to wonder, something like who are all of these fake people .

[ErrinSpelling]

Just a few words. I had hoped that the baby was alive too, but I don't think so, and I agree I hope she just went to sleep too, versus blunt force trauma or being smothered. I guess you can get anything off the internet, but chloroform hasn't been available to the public since the 1970's because it can be very lethal. If Casey wanted Caylee just to sleep, she could have given the baby a teaspoon of benadryl and she would have slept and not died. That is why I think this was premeditated murder. Yes, I know, innocent until proven guilty. JMO :rose:

i just can't believe it was an accident either, b/c if it was an accident,you would have to be upset,i think.

[One2Snoop]

i just can't believe it was an accident either, b/c if it was an accident,you would have to be upset,i think.

And we know she wasn't upset with all that partying she did after Caylee went missing. :flamemad:

[ErrinSpelling]

And we know she wasn't upset with all that partying she did after Caylee went missing. :flamemad:

Exactly.that's not being upset!

[SaraSidle]

I wonder if they can test Caylee's hair they found in the trunk for it? You know what I mean like how long was she taking it or if she had too much? IMO

[ErrinSpelling]

I wonder if they can test Caylee's hair they found in the trunk for it? You know what I mean like how long was she taking it or if she had too much? IMO

i don't know, but was also wondering,if they know when she ordered it,on the computer,if she ordered it...apparently on the in session thread a few hours ago it sounds like you simply mix alcohol & bleach equally & don't boil...if it's that easy,paople should be murdered this way ,a lot.:confused:

[lighthousedazy]

i don't know, but was also wondering,if they know when she ordered it,on the computer,if she ordered it...apparently on the in session thread a few hours ago it sounds like you simply mix alcohol & bleach equally & don't boil...if it's that easy,paople should be murdered this way ,a lot.:confused:I don't know either, but I was amazed, the guy on NG said that you can erase your computer cache, delete your cookies, etc and even beat your hard drive with a hammer or run over it with a car and they can still recover all data that was on the computer. ;)

[ErrinSpelling]

I don't know either, but I was amazed, the guy on NG said that you can erase your computer cache, delete your cookies, etc and even beat your hard drive with a hammer or run over it with a car and they can still recover all data that was on the computer. ;)
:) like your cute dog picture,that made me very happy...
sociopaths beware, you will be caught, so stop murdering people.

[samanthajane13]

"I don't know either, but I was amazed, the guy on NG said that you can erase your computer cache, delete your cookies, etc and even beat your hard drive with a hammer or run over it with a car and they can still recover all data that was on the computer."

I use a program called WebRoot Window Washer, which over-writes the cookies and the history, along with the temporary internet cache. Works WONDERS and the stuff can't be read-even by LE.

Maybe I shouldn't be posting this????

The WRONG people could see it.

[SaraSidle]

i don't know, but was also wondering,if they know when she ordered it,on the computer,if she ordered it...apparently on the in session thread a few hours ago it sounds like you simply mix alcohol & bleach equally & don't boil...if it's that easy,paople should be murdered this way ,a lot.:confused:

I clean silver burnt pots and pans with bleach and vinegar fumes enclosed and people tell me if I am not careful I could die from it. been doing it for years and still have the same pots and pans clean and silver

[samanthajane13]

You know, all it would take is to spill beer and have a bottle of bleach leak on the way to the laudromat.

OR it could be that she used bleach to clean up after something happened to Caylee, and there could have been ethanol in the trunk-like "dry-gas" products they sell to pour into your gas tank to evaporate water from it.

I think even space-cadet Casey may be able to do that.

I'm NOT defending her, or saying that the forensics expert is wrong, but there are other ways the chloroform could have developed.

I still think she's guilty as sin...:flamemad:

[One2Snoop]

You know, all it would take is to spill beer and have a bottle of bleach leak on the way to the laudromat.

OR it could be that she used bleach to clean up after something happened to Caylee, and there could have been ethanol in the trunk-like "dry-gas" products they sell to pour into your gas tank to evaporate water from it.

I think even space-cadet Casey may be able to do that.

I'm NOT defending her, or saying that the forensics expert is wrong, but there are other ways the chloroform could have developed.

I still think she's guilty as sin...:flamemad:

What about Caylee drowning in the swiming pool? Chlorine + whatever>?

I still think Casey had something to do with Caylee's death - and I also strongly believe she was in a drunkin' or drug induced stupor when it happened and thats why she claims she doesn't know where Caylee is.
This was no accident IMO :no: - but has more to do with a young woman (Casey) gone wild and out of control and her 2 1/2 year old daughter paid the price for it. IMO, JMO.

[deacon]

Thanks to everyone who previously on here extended their condolences to me on my loss. My angel's name is Allison. :rose:

I just wanted to say that I thought I had this all figured out, but watching NG last night, I'm wondering if the boyfriend may have done something to Caylee. We all know that, for example, if there are 10 drunk guys in a bar and 1 woman and she is raped by them, that the only person coming out of that bar claiming there was a rape would be the woman. Men stick together on EVERYTHING. Maybe the boyfriend killed her. He would never say and in that case, HOPEFULLY, Casey really does not know what's happened to her. Did Casey ever let her boyfriend drive her car? He could've placed Caylee in the trunk. Just a thought.


I did also want to say, that if I thought I saw Caylee, I would grab her in whatever store/restaurant I'm in and yell for someone to call the police. If the child isn't Caylee, surely they would understand that you just thought that this was the missing child from Florida. It's not like you've kidnapped the child because you would not actually leave the place. All of these so called people who have seen Caylee, why haven't any of them done this? Did any of them call the police and follow them???? I know I would. I'd get a description of them and the vehicle and a license plate....


Sorry, in this case all the fingers/evidence is pointing to "mom". If someone grabbed my child 1000 miles away from this crime, they would end up in jail. Sorry, this child isn't missing, she is dead. Not a pleasant thing but I am afraid she is. Really no evidence to point at anything else happening. Just three liars. and let me add, no most men would not "stick together" in this situation. Scum bags may, but not men.

[deacon]

I think you are right Loulou sounds very probably imo

I really doubt this was an accident. If she researched Cholorform she would no what would happen. why do you think they don't use it medically anymore? I causes cancer. Also, it would put the little girl out quickly. I think she wanted Caylee dead but thought this would be a "clean, easy" way of doing it. Not nearly as much fight as drowning and Caylee would not feel any pain. Just go to sleep. She is a coward, killer and a prolific liar.

But she will get away with it.

[INGASON14]

I really doubt this was an accident. If she researched Cholorform she would no what would happen. why do you think they don't use it medically anymore? I causes cancer. Also, it would put the little girl out quickly. I think she wanted Caylee dead but thought this would be a "clean, easy" way of doing it. Not nearly as much fight as drowning and Caylee would not feel any pain. Just go to sleep. She is a coward, killer and a prolific liar.

But she will get away with it.

Deacon, when Nancy Grace was talking about the chloroform found in the car and the searchon the computer, sad to say the first person that popped into my head was Cindy. Don't ask me why maybe because she is a nurse. Maybe Cindy and Casey were discussing the effects of it and Casey did research. Then when it was said could not purchase it, Cindy again popped into my head as a nurse.

***THis is my opinion

[samanthajane13]

"I really doubt this was an accident. If she researched Cholorform she would no what would happen. why do you think they don't use it medically anymore? I causes cancer. Also, it would put the little girl out quickly. I think she wanted Caylee dead but thought this would be a "clean, easy" way of doing it. Not nearly as much fight as drowning and Caylee would not feel any pain. Just go to sleep. She is a coward, killer and a prolific liar."

I think she may have had a date-and no sitter, and tried to just put her out, but gave her too much.

If she was very deeply unconscious and in the trunk, she may have even suffocated, and the hair could have been scraped off as Casey tried to remove her body.

[ErrinSpelling]

I clean silver burnt pots and pans with bleach and vinegar fumes enclosed and people tell me if I am not careful I could die from it. been doing it for years and still have the same pots and pans clean and silver

well, we are lucky, to still have you..i can't get anywhere near anything, thatwas cleaned with bleach...it burns my throat.

[ErrinSpelling]

Link: Casey Anthony posts bail on new charges (http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=7356643&version=6&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=3.1.1)

i'm not sure why you post bail on new charges,if you can't post,on old charges.i guess her brother is going to keep calling & aggravating padilla.
this says the computer seized says someone searched for not only chloroform, but how to use it.... NG said it was casey's computer, last night to koblinsky, & he should have known that,when he commented fbi uses chloroform....

[ErrinSpelling]

"I really doubt this was an accident. If she researched Cholorform she would no what would happen. why do you think they don't use it medically anymore? I causes cancer. Also, it would put the little girl out quickly. I think she wanted Caylee dead but thought this would be a "clean, easy" way of doing it. Not nearly as much fight as drowning and Caylee would not feel any pain. Just go to sleep. She is a coward, killer and a prolific liar."

I think she may have had a date-and no sitter, and tried to just put her out, but gave her too much.

If she was very deeply unconscious and in the trunk, she may have even suffocated, and the hair could have been scraped off as Casey tried to remove her body.

the no sitter comment just made me remember another mistruth of cindy's tues., i think ,on a clip, on NG:cindy said casey used that zannny nanny for a year & there's no such person.

[rosejustrose]

i'm not sure why you post bail on new charges,if you can't post,on old charges.i guess her brother is going to keep calling & aggravating padilla.
this says the computer seized says someone searched for not only chloroform, but how to use it.... NG said it was casey's computer, last night to koblinsky, & he should have known that,when he commented fbi uses chloroform....

Boy, I sure missed a lot! Yes, the FBI, as well as other labs, use chloroform on certain tests. But, those tests are conducted in controlled settings, not in the trunks of cars. I guess Kobi and whatever defense attorney Casey goes to trial with will try to make a case that the FBI or local LE contaminated her trunk and that it was just a coincidence that she happened to have been looking it up:rolleyes: This case is just rolling with coinkydinks:cool: Let's see, Casey abandons car and someone picks that very car to dump a dead body in the trunk; the trunk smells like decomposition but it's really just rotten pizza and dirty diapers; gas cans go missing and are reported as stolen to LE on June 24 - the last day someone said they heard Caylee in the background of a phone conversation with Casey; cadaver dogs hit in the Anthony backyard near an area where George poured concrete on July 4th which is just one day after Cindy posted her myspace page with how sad she was someone took Caylee away; Casey borrows a shovel from a neighbor but hey, the bamboo needed to be dug up; what will these people say next? Now Padilla is alleging that the hair in the trunk was an exact DNA match because Lee was Caylee's father:eek: Where'd he come up with that - Caylee's name??? IMO, only identical twins have the same DNA, not children of incest. The bones in these people's closets have been rattled to the core. Sick, sad and disgusting. There is a missing baby out there and finding her is all that matters. There will be plenty of time to send this family to jail in the future. IMO, charges will be filed against each and every one of them and that'll be the right and just thing to do. JMHO and no offense intended.

[rosejustrose]

the no sitter comment just made me remember another mistruth of cindy's tues., i think ,on a clip, on NG:cindy said casey used that zannny nanny for a year & there's no such person.

Hey Errin! IIRC, and I can't find the link, Cindy said that Casey had talked about Zenida for like 4 years. That she was an old friend and that she had been watching Caylee on and off for almost two years. She also said she had never spoken to or met this mystery woman. JMHO.

[ErrinSpelling]

Excerpt: ORLANDO, FLA. -- The latest twist in the Casey Anthony case comes from the man who at one point gave her a “get out of jail free” card and may tie her brother, Lee Anthony, into the saga. ...

Link: New Twist In Casey Anthony Case - Brother may be tied to case (http://www.540wfla.com/main.html)

oh come on!!!is padilla joking?...does he really believe lee could be caylee's father?...maybe he should save that for the movie...maybe he is just trying to get lee, to stop calling him, to post bail?:confused:

[ErrinSpelling]

Hey Errin! IIRC, and I can't find the link, Cindy said that Casey had talked about Zenida for like 4 years. That she was an old friend and that she had been watching Caylee on and off for almost two years. She also said she had never spoken to or met this mystery woman. JMHO.

really,i didn't know the part about cindy saying, she never spoke to the woman...there's mistruth #3.
4. witness tampering of simon birch
possible lies
5. people are calling her & saying they see caylee in mexico &......
6. someone trying to steal her identity

[rosejustrose]

"I really doubt this was an accident. If she researched Cholorform she would no what would happen. why do you think they don't use it medically anymore? I causes cancer. Also, it would put the little girl out quickly. I think she wanted Caylee dead but thought this would be a "clean, easy" way of doing it. Not nearly as much fight as drowning and Caylee would not feel any pain. Just go to sleep. She is a coward, killer and a prolific liar."

I think she may have had a date-and no sitter, and tried to just put her out, but gave her too much.

If she was very deeply unconscious and in the trunk, she may have even suffocated, and the hair could have been scraped off as Casey tried to remove her body.

I've given this some thought and I think Zanny the Nanny was a drug, not a person. Casey was into the drug and drinking party scene. Maybe she had access to Xanax but the night Caylee died she didn't have any so she improvised with her homemade concoction of chloroform. Since chloroform can be made using everyday household items it certainly would be a lot cheaper than spending whatever it costs to buy Xanax. JMHO.:shrug:

[ErrinSpelling]

Boy, I sure missed a lot! Yes, the FBI, as well as other labs, use chloroform on certain tests. But, those tests are conducted in controlled settings, not in the trunks of cars. I guess Kobi and whatever defense attorney Casey goes to trial with will try to make a case that the FBI or local LE contaminated her trunk and that it was just a coincidence that she happened to have been looking it up:rolleyes: This case is just rolling with coinkydinks:cool: Let's see, Casey abandons car and someone picks that very car to dump a dead body in the trunk; the trunk smells like decomposition but it's really just rotten pizza and dirty diapers; gas cans go missing and are reported as stolen to LE on June 24 - the last day someone said they heard Caylee in the background of a phone conversation with Casey; cadaver dogs hit in the Anthony backyard near an area where George poured concrete on July 4th which is just one day after Cindy posted her myspace page with how sad she was someone took Caylee away; Casey borrows a shovel from a neighbor but hey, the bamboo needed to be dug up; what will these people say next? Now Padilla is alleging that the hair in the trunk was an exact DNA match because Lee was Caylee's father:eek: Where'd he come up with that - Caylee's name??? IMO, only identical twins have the same DNA, not children of incest. The bones in these people's closets have been rattled to the core. Sick, sad and disgusting. There is a missing baby out there and finding her is all that matters. There will be plenty of time to send this family to jail in the future. IMO, charges will be filed against each and every one of them and that'll be the right and just thing to do. JMHO and no offense intended.

i should have read this post first.that's very good....now that makes me even angrier at koblinsky.

[ErrinSpelling]

I've given this some thought and I think Zanny the Nanny was a drug, not a person. Casey was into the drug and drinking party scene. Maybe she had access to Xanax but the night Caylee died she didn't have any so she improvised with her homemade concoction of chloroform. Since chloroform can be made using everyday household items it certainly would be a lot cheaper than spending whatever it costs to buy Xanax. JMHO.:shrug:

yes,i don't think she was stealing everyone's money to pay for babysitters or expensive nanny sitting drugs...i would not be suprised if she had a more devilish plan, to murder her parent's also, at this point.

[deacon]

Deacon, when Nancy Grace was talking about the chloroform found in the car and the searchon the computer, sad to say the first person that popped into my head was Cindy. Don't ask me why maybe because she is a nurse. Maybe Cindy and Casey were discussing the effects of it and Casey did research. Then when it was said could not purchase it, Cindy again popped into my head as a nurse.

***THis is my opinion

That chemical is pretty well known. I really doubt Cindy had anything to do with the death but she knows a lot more than she is telling. She knows what happened and just can not admit it. IMO

[susie31023]

Boy, I sure missed a lot! Yes, the FBI, as well as other labs, use chloroform on certain tests. But, those tests are conducted in controlled settings, not in the trunks of cars. I guess Kobi and whatever defense attorney Casey goes to trial with will try to make a case that the FBI or local LE contaminated her trunk and that it was just a coincidence that she happened to have been looking it up:rolleyes: This case is just rolling with coinkydinks:cool: Let's see, Casey abandons car and someone picks that very car to dump a dead body in the trunk; the trunk smells like decomposition but it's really just rotten pizza and dirty diapers; gas cans go missing and are reported as stolen to LE on June 24 - the last day someone said they heard Caylee in the background of a phone conversation with Casey; cadaver dogs hit in the Anthony backyard near an area where George poured concrete on July 4th which is just one day after Cindy posted her myspace page with how sad she was someone took Caylee away; Casey borrows a shovel from a neighbor but hey, the bamboo needed to be dug up; what will these people say next? Now Padilla is alleging that the hair in the trunk was an exact DNA match because Lee was Caylee's father:eek: Where'd he come up with that - Caylee's name??? IMO, only identical twins have the same DNA, not children of incest. The bones in these people's closets have been rattled to the core. Sick, sad and disgusting. There is a missing baby out there and finding her is all that matters. There will be plenty of time to send this family to jail in the future. IMO, charges will be filed against each and every one of them and that'll be the right and just thing to do. JMHO and no offense intended.


E$xcellent post Rose and One I agree with totally....Great to see you back by the way..missed you..

[deacon]

i'm not sure why you post bail on new charges,if you can't post,on old charges.i guess her brother is going to keep calling & aggravating padilla.
this says the computer seized says someone searched for not only chloroform, but how to use it.... NG said it was casey's computer, last night to koblinsky, & he should have known that,when he commented fbi uses chloroform....

In labratory tests. Not on humans.

[rosejustrose]

That chemical is pretty well known. I really doubt Cindy had anything to do with the death but she knows a lot more than she is telling. She knows what happened and just can not admit it. IMO

Cannot admit it or will not admit it? I'm not sure which it is. IMO she knows Caylee is dead and that Casey, or someone else very close to Cindy, had something to do with it. IMO, this family has been masquerading behind normalcy for far too long. All their weird idiosyncracies and dysfunctional behavior is coming to the surface and it tells a chilling story. Poor little Caylee.:rose:

[rosejustrose]

E$xcellent post Rose and One I agree with totally....Great to see you back by the way..missed you..

:seeya: Thanks, Susie. It's good to be back.

[joekuhl79]

Sources: Chloroform Found In Casey Anthony's Car - Evidence Collected From Caylee Anthony Searchers (http://www.wesh.com/news/17377729/detail.html?treets=orl&tml=orl_break&ts=T&tmi=orl_break_1_03330409032008http://www.wesh.com/news/17377729/detail.html?treets=orl&tml=orl_break&ts=T&tmi=orl_break_1_03330409032008)

From this article:

"The story she gave them was she went to Jay Blanchard Park, Zenaida and her older sister, Samantha, and Samantha's three young children were there and they were driving a silver Ford whatever and one of them jumped her and the other one took the baby and took her and said, 'Hey, this is the script. For the next 30 days, you read this to law enforcement and tell them this is what happened' and they zoomed off," bounty hunter Leonard Padilla said.

When did THIS story come out? I have only heard all along that she 'dropped Caylee at Zanaidas'...when did she change it to this?

[rosejustrose]

From this article:

"The story she gave them was she went to Jay Blanchard Park, Zenaida and her older sister, Samantha, and Samantha's three young children were there and they were driving a silver Ford whatever and one of them jumped her and the other one took the baby and took her and said, 'Hey, this is the script. For the next 30 days, you read this to law enforcement and tell them this is what happened' and they zoomed off," bounty hunter Leonard Padilla said.

When did THIS story come out? I have only heard all along that she 'dropped Caylee at Zanaidas'...when did she change it to this?

When Padilla started putting his spin on things:shrug: Actually, IIRC Cindy said something along the same lines on NG or the Today show, can't remember which. That the baby was taken and Casey was given a script to follow or Caylee would be hurt.

I bet Odette or One2Snoop can find they links. They're the greatest and I'd like to take this time to send you all a big thank you for keeping us all up to date and informed:rose::rose:

[tv]

Deacon, when Nancy Grace was talking about the chloroform found in the car and the searchon the computer, sad to say the first person that popped into my head was Cindy. Don't ask me why maybe because she is a nurse. Maybe Cindy and Casey were discussing the effects of it and Casey did research. Then when it was said could not purchase it, Cindy again popped into my head as a nurse.

***THis is my opinion

Hi Ingason! I don't think nurses have access to chloroform more easily than anyone else...besides, doesn't Cindy have a desk job? :)

[INGASON14]

That chemical is pretty well known. I really doubt Cindy had anything to do with the death but she knows a lot more than she is telling. She knows what happened and just can not admit it. IMO

Deacon, I'm not saying Cindy had anything to do with Caylee's being missing or dead, but when they were talking about the Chlorofomr for watever reason Cindy popped into my head and not Casey which I thought was really odd, but then I thought ok Cindy is a nurse and maybe Casey and her were having a discussion and that could explain the research.


***This is my opinion

[joekuhl79]

Thanks to everyone who previously on here extended their condolences to me on my loss. My angel's name is Allison. :rose:

I just wanted to say that I thought I had this all figured out, but watching NG last night, I'm wondering if the boyfriend may have done something to Caylee. We all know that, for example, if there are 10 drunk guys in a bar and 1 woman and she is raped by them, that the only person coming out of that bar claiming there was a rape would be the woman. Men stick together on EVERYTHING. Maybe the boyfriend killed her. He would never say and in that case, HOPEFULLY, Casey really does not know what's happened to her. Did Casey ever let her boyfriend drive her car? He could've placed Caylee in the trunk. Just a thought.


I did also want to say, that if I thought I saw Caylee, I would grab her in whatever store/restaurant I'm in and yell for someone to call the police. If the child isn't Caylee, surely they would understand that you just thought that this was the missing child from Florida. It's not like you've kidnapped the child because you would not actually leave the place. All of these so called people who have seen Caylee, why haven't any of them done this? Did any of them call the police and follow them???? I know I would. I'd get a description of them and the vehicle and a license plate....

I appreciate your passion for what's going on, but everything going on here points to Casey and not a boyfriend. If a boyfriend did it, Casey would have rolled on him in no time - she's too selfish to protect a boyfriend (that she hardly knew, really - she's been "linked" with four or five guys just in the time Caylees been missing!)

And to grab a kid because she might look like Caylee?! Not only are you going to get yourself in trouble, but you could traumatize an innocent child!

[joekuhl79]

Free Again? Bounty Hunter Offers To Re-Post Bond (http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=7351737&version=6&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=3.1.1)

Padilla said he'd post her bond if she gave specific information on where to find Caylee, and that WHEN Caylee is found (dead or alive) he would bond her out - just for the sake of being out until her trial. His goal is to find Caylee...he's not doing it for Caseys benefit...

She'll never admit anything though, I'm afraid.

[odette]

These are the places where Casey Anthony frequented after the disappearance of her daughter Caylee Anthony.

Click on locations at left of screen for actual address/description.

Link: Google Map (http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&msa=0&msid=115539722984873423379.00045575014983dc81d11&ll=28.51778,-81.309611&spn=0.153115,0.305836&t=h&source=embed&s=AARTsJqrcEPmXeO0bxuiavyT6-3dAF2-AQ)

[joekuhl79]

Just reported on NG - Casey told friends she used chloroform for work! :eek: What WORK?

Maybe for her 'work' she did the chloroform in a handkerchief thing to sneak up on people, knock them out, and drag them to Fusian!

[TruLover]

I had to laugh last night when the grandma said it was 30 diapers in the trunk----first she said it smelled like a dead body/then rotten pizza/ and then now its 30 diapers----now come on i dont put my son diapers in the car trunk-----major denial !!!!!!what a woman.

I believe she said DIRTY diapers.

[deacon]

When Padilla started putting his spin on things:shrug: Actually, IIRC Cindy said something along the same lines on NG or the Today show, can't remember which. That the baby was taken and Casey was given a script to follow or Caylee would be hurt.

I bet Odette or One2Snoop can find they links. They're the greatest and I'd like to take this time to send you all a big thank you for keeping us all up to date and informed:rose::rose:

You know, this is wayyyyy out there. Even for this group. If she told that to LE (her father being one at one time) they may have gone through the motions with her but not to the extent that they have. Way too many holes in that story.

[joekuhl79]

I don't know either, but I was amazed, the guy on NG said that you can erase your computer cache, delete your cookies, etc and even beat your hard drive with a hammer or run over it with a car and they can still recover all data that was on the computer. ;)


If I recall correctly, what happens is when you delete something from your computer, the system actually deletes just the reference to where the data is stored...the original data is still on the hard drive. At some point it could be written over though...

[odette]

When Padilla started putting his spin on things:shrug: Actually, IIRC Cindy said something along the same lines on NG or the Today show, can't remember which. That the baby was taken and Casey was given a script to follow or Caylee would be hurt.

I bet Odette or One2Snoop can find they links. They're the greatest and I'd like to take this time to send you all a big thank you for keeping us all up to date and informed:rose::rose:

Hey Rose .. ty! .. Is this what you were referring to?.

Excerpt: Casey Anthony has told investigators that Caylee was kidnapped by a babysitter at Blanchard Park.

"The story she gave them was she went to Jay Blanchard Park, Zenaida and her older sister, Samantha, and Samantha's three young children were there and they were driving a silver Ford whatever and one of them jumped her and the other one took the baby and took her and said, 'Hey, this is the script. For the next 30 days, you read this to law enforcement and tell them this is what happened' and they zoomed off," bounty hunter Leonard Padilla said.

http://www.wesh.com/news/17377729/detail.html

[INGASON14]

Hi Ingason! I don't think nurses have access to chloroform more easily than anyone else...besides, doesn't Cindy have a desk job? :)

TV not sure what she does. Just heard she was a nurse. I am not saying Cindy had access to it just wondering to myself why Cindy would pop into my head when they were discussing the chloroform. Just making me go ummmmmmm lol. Nice to see ya glad to be posting with you keep those questions coming.


***This is my opinion

[joekuhl79]

oh come on!!!is padilla joking?...does he really believe lee could be caylee's father?...maybe he should save that for the movie...maybe he is just trying to get lee, to stop calling him, to post bail?:confused:

This has been mentioned before...others have suggested it since early on...

[joekuhl79]

yes,i don't think she was stealing everyone's money to pay for babysitters or expensive nanny sitting drugs...i would not be suprised if she had a more devilish plan, to murder her parent's also, at this point.

She did say to one of her friends that they were going to sign the house over to her...

[rosejustrose]

TV not sure what she does. Just heard she was a nurse. I am not saying Cindy had access to it just wondering to myself why Cindy would pop into my head when they were discussing the chloroform. Just making me go ummmmmmm lol. Nice to see ya glad to be posting with you keep those questions coming.


***This is my opinion

Hi Ingason! Maybe Cindy popped into your head because she is a nurse and chloroform is most associated with the medical profession:shrug: I bet if they checked out what TV programming and books Casey preferred they'd find that she watched LE type shows where the victims are sometimes chloroformed. That might have clicked in her sick mind and caused her to get on the 'net and do some searching. From there she could have easily figured out how to make her own home brew. JMO.

[rosejustrose]

This has been mentioned before...others have suggested it since early on...

Really?? Today was the first I ever heard of it. I guess because they (Casey and Lee) had a close relationship that people might go there, but isn't that a stretch? He must be a little sociopathic, too. Because he really hasn't displayed any great amounts of grief or concern about Caylee that I've seen. And, if he was her father, I'd think he'd being going nuts. JMO.

[rosejustrose]

She did say to one of her friends that they were going to sign the house over to her...


I don't think she planned on killing her parents, just Caylee. What if she feared her parents leaving everything to the baby instead of her?

[joekuhl79]

I believe she said DIRTY diapers.

What a bunch of BS! Who is going to change a diaper, and then go all the way outside, open the trunk of a car, and drop a diaper in. Why? Or collect them, and THEN take them to the trunk?!

Does Cindy realize how much of a moronic liar she sounds like when she says something like this? I heard her saying this on NG last night or the night before, and I'M THINKING "Did you REALLY just say that, and expect ANYONE to believe it?!" My five year old would know that's idiotic!

[ErrinSpelling]

She did say to one of her friends that they were going to sign the house over to her...

that's why i wouldn't be suprised...i think they said that wasn't true...they wouldn't be signing it over willingly.

[odette]

gretawire.foxnews.com

Comment by Cara in TX

August 28th, 2008 at 8:05 pm

Cindy Anthony is a nurse in private practice…she works in an office specializing in orthopaedics ... continued

http://gretawire.foxnews.com/2008/08/28/update-caylee-anthony-missing-toddler-in-florida/comment-page-5/

[ErrinSpelling]

This has been mentioned before...others have suggested it since early on...

i didn't know that & i thought i read every page,of this long thread, before i started writing.it does sound like something people would suggest.

[joekuhl79]

Hey Rose .. ty! .. Is this what you were referring to?.

Excerpt: Casey Anthony has told investigators that Caylee was kidnapped by a babysitter at Blanchard Park.

"The story she gave them was she went to Jay Blanchard Park, Zenaida and her older sister, Samantha, and Samantha's three young children were there and they were driving a silver Ford whatever and one of them jumped her and the other one took the baby and took her and said, 'Hey, this is the script. For the next 30 days, you read this to law enforcement and tell them this is what happened' and they zoomed off," bounty hunter Leonard Padilla said.

http://www.wesh.com/news/17377729/detail.html

I was asking when this story came out, and Rose said that you would probably know...

[joekuhl79]

I don't think she planned on killing her parents, just Caylee. What if she feared her parents leaving everything to the baby instead of her?

Plus Lee is older, right? He'd probably get the house.

Uh-oh...then he'd be next!

[rosejustrose]

What a bunch of BS! Who is going to change a diaper, and then go all the way outside, open the trunk of a car, and drop a diaper in. Why? Or collect them, and THEN take them to the trunk?!

Does Cindy realize how much of a moronic liar she sounds like when she says something like this? I heard her saying this on NG last night or the night before, and I'M THINKING "Did you REALLY just say that, and expect ANYONE to believe it?!" My five year old would know that's idiotic!

ITA! I would be LMAO if this wasn't such a tragedy. First off, Cindy looks and her voice sounds like she's on some serious tranqs. She has aged noticably over the last two months. Secondly, if she moves her lips, you know she's lying. NG did a good job putting together a series of clips with Cindy saying totally contradictory things as more evidence came forward. Yup, the apple didn't fall far from the tree! IMO.

[joekuhl79]

i didn't know that & i thought i read every page,of this long thread, before i started writing.it does sound like something people would suggest.

It has kind of been out there based on the mystery of the father...who is so secretive about that? Not even putting a name on the birth certificate?!

[ErrinSpelling]

What a bunch of BS! Who is going to change a diaper, and then go all the way outside, open the trunk of a car, and drop a diaper in. Why? Or collect them, and THEN take them to the trunk?!

Does Cindy realize how much of a moronic liar she sounds like when she says something like this? I heard her saying this on NG last night or the night before, and I'M THINKING "Did you REALLY just say that, and expect ANYONE to believe it?!" My five year old would know that's idiotic!

i don't understand how either one of them (cindy or casey) has gone through their entire lives making up these stupid lies...how do they have friends.

[rosejustrose]

Plus Lee is older, right? He'd probably get the house.

Uh-oh...then he'd be next!

Does Lee live in the home? I don't know too much about him but I thought he was out on his own with a pretty good job. IMO, the Anthony's probably resigned themselves to the fact that Casey was a lunatic and they'd have to take care of her until they died - which may be sooner rather than later is pyscho Casey has her way. JMO.

[joekuhl79]

Does Lee live in the home? I don't know too much about him but I thought he was out on his own with a pretty good job. IMO, the Anthony's probably resigned themselves to the fact that Casey was a lunatic and they'd have to take care of her until they died - which may be sooner rather than later is pyscho Casey has her way. JMO.

I'm pretty sure Lee doesn't live there...I was just saying that if something happened to the parents, Lee would probably inherit the house, not Casey...

[rosejustrose]

It has kind of been out there based on the mystery of the father...who is so secretive about that? Not even putting a name on the birth certificate?!

Casey is such a tramp and partier she probably doesn't have a clue who the father is. She could go on the Maury show and parade out a dozen or so guys who would all hear "YOU ARE NOT THE FATHER!". JMO.

[ErrinSpelling]

It has kind of been out there based on the mystery of the father...who is so secretive about that? Not even putting a name on the birth certificate?!

well if she has 4 boyfriends, after caylee goes missing, there is no telling how many 4 years ago, so maybe she doesn't know who the father is .

[rosejustrose]

well if she has 4 boyfriends, after caylee goes missing, there is no telling how many 4 years ago, so maybe she doesn't know who the father is .


I don't know if I would define the relationships Casey had with men as "boyfriend/girlfriend". IMO, it was a drunk/drug/sex thing with her. She may have played house a couple of times but there must have been something more in it for her. She had a fiance whose dad was on Geraldo the other night. I didn't catch the show but read that he was very remorseful that he didn't embrace Casey and Caylee when he ran into them after their breakup. He sounded like a decent guy but he did say Casey tried to claim his son was the father. Rev. Grund was his name. IMO, Casey led a very complicated, convoluted life centered around herself and her own pleasures. JMO.

[lorettalockhorn]

It has kind of been out there based on the mystery of the father...who is so secretive about that? Not even putting a name on the birth certificate?!

I can think of half a dozen reasons for not naming the father right off the bat; the top two being 1) that she doesn't have the foggiest idea, and 2) to prevent any suits regarding custody or visitation. I'm thinking that Casey was perfectly happy to have her best enablers in Caylee's life (without any other parental interference), i.e. Cindy and George.

[rosejustrose]

I can think of half a dozen reasons for not naming the father right off the bat; the top two being 1) that she doesn't have the foggiest idea, and 2) to prevent any suits regarding custody or visitation. I'm thinking that Casey was perfectly happy to have her best enablers in Caylee's life (without any other parental interference), i.e. Cindy and George.

I vote for #1. From what I've read, Casey was getting a little bit tired of her mother's interference in her life. IMO, Cindy was probably cracking down on Casey trying to get her to stop the partying life and become a more responsible adult and parent. That wouldn't sit well with Casey, IMO. JMO.

[ErrinSpelling]

I don't know if I would define the relationships Casey had with men as "boyfriend/girlfriend". IMO, it was a drunk/drug/sex thing with her. She may have played house a couple of times but there must have been something more in it for her. She had a fiance whose dad was on Geraldo the other night. I didn't catch the show but read that he was very remorseful that he didn't embrace Casey and Caylee when he ran into them after their breakup. He sounded like a decent guy but he did say Casey tried to claim his son was the father. Rev. Grund was his name. IMO, Casey led a very complicated, convoluted life centered around herself and her own pleasures. JMO.

that rev. story is very interesting.i shouldn't have described caylee's departure as goes missing either.

[lorettalockhorn]

I vote for #1. From what I've read, Casey was getting a little bit tired of her mother's interference in her life. IMO, Cindy was probably cracking down on Casey trying to get her to stop the partying life and become a more responsible adult and parent. That wouldn't sit well with Casey, IMO. JMO.

Not nearly as up to date or in the know as some, but I get the feeling that Cindy is crisis oriented and a martyr type. Can well imagine her whining, crying, *****ing and bleeding, moaning and groaning about Casey and then doing absolutely nothing about it.

[odette]

FOX 35 Mobile Web Cam 1 - Anthony Residence (http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam.html)

[rosejustrose]

FOX 35 Mobile Web Cam 1 - Anthony Residence (http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam.html)

Odette, would you have a link to Rev. Grund (I think that's the name) interview with Geraldo? I think it was Friday night. I could be mistaken but I remember reading something about it. I think his son is the Jesse Casey was engaged to. JMO and I'm probably way off base.

[INGASON14]

Late Thursday morning, Eyewitness News received a statement from Casey Anthony's mother. In an email, she blasts the bounty hunter who helped get Casey released on bond and the organizer of the search organization.

"Leonard Padilla and Tim Miller came to me under false pretenses. Both claiming their sole purpose to find Caylee alive. Tim Miller misrepresented his intentions, and is falsely accusing me of not cooperating with him, when it is evident his motives were to obtain publicity for his organization at the expense of exploiting my granddaughters disappearance. Tim Miller tried to discredit Kid Finders Network by falsely stating that they tried to pull out of the search for Caylee. Mr. Miller also claims that he spent twelve hours in my home with my family including Casey, when in fact he spent only a few hours total with me and minutes with Casey. This is an example of Tim Miller following in Leonard Padillas footsteps. Although I feel his organization has a purpose, his misrepresentation has tainted the efforts of so many people with good intentions. I would have expected Tim Miller to speak with me one on one, rather than me hearing him on Nancy Grace."

Link: CINDY ANTHONY MAKES STRONG STATEMENT VIA EMAIL (http://www.wftv.com/news/17382107/detail.html)

Odette, thank you so much for all these updates. Can't keep up with them but I really do appreciate the fact that you are posting them as fast as they come out.

[ErrinSpelling]

Late Thursday morning, Eyewitness News received a statement from Casey Anthony's mother. In an email, she blasts the bounty hunter who helped get Casey released on bond and the organizer of the search organization.

"Leonard Padilla and Tim Miller came to me under false pretenses. Both claiming their sole purpose to find Caylee alive. Tim Miller misrepresented his intentions, and is falsely accusing me of not cooperating with him, when it is evident his motives were to obtain publicity for his organization at the expense of exploiting my granddaughters disappearance. Tim Miller tried to discredit Kid Finders Network by falsely stating that they tried to pull out of the search for Caylee. Mr. Miller also claims that he spent twelve hours in my home with my family including Casey, when in fact he spent only a few hours total with me and minutes with Casey. This is an example of Tim Miller following in Leonard Padillas footsteps. Although I feel his organization has a purpose, his misrepresentation has tainted the efforts of so many people with good intentions. I would have expected Tim Miller to speak with me one on one, rather than me hearing him on Nancy Grace."

Link: CINDY ANTHONY MAKES STRONG STATEMENT VIA EMAIL (http://www.wftv.com/news/17382107/detail.html)

someone please lock her up.she IS hindering the investigation,with her mistruths.

[odette]

Odette, would you have a link to Rev. Grund (I think that's the name) interview with Geraldo? I think it was Friday night. I could be mistaken but I remember reading something about it. I think his son is the Jesse Casey was engaged to. JMO and I'm probably way off base.

I'll see if I can find a link Rose.

[ErrinSpelling]

Late Thursday morning, Eyewitness News received a statement from Casey Anthony's mother. In an email, she blasts the bounty hunter who helped get Casey released on bond and the organizer of the search organization.

"Leonard Padilla and Tim Miller came to me under false pretenses. Both claiming their sole purpose to find Caylee alive. Tim Miller misrepresented his intentions, and is falsely accusing me of not cooperating with him, when it is evident his motives were to obtain publicity for his organization at the expense of exploiting my granddaughters disappearance. Tim Miller tried to discredit Kid Finders Network by falsely stating that they tried to pull out of the search for Caylee. Mr. Miller also claims that he spent twelve hours in my home with my family including Casey, when in fact he spent only a few hours total with me and minutes with Casey. This is an example of Tim Miller following in Leonard Padillas footsteps. Although I feel his organization has a purpose, his misrepresentation has tainted the efforts of so many people with good intentions. I would have expected Tim Miller to speak with me one on one, rather than me hearing him on Nancy Grace."

Link: CINDY ANTHONY MAKES STRONG STATEMENT VIA EMAIL (http://www.wftv.com/news/17382107/detail.html)

dear cindy,
1.tim & padilla did come to you , to find caylee alive.it is b/c of your lies & casey's they know she is dead & of course the evidence.
2. you yourself tried to discredit tim, on NG , the night before, yet have the nerve to say the opposite.
3. tim only spent a few minutes, with casey, b/c she would not talk to him.

[odette]

Odette, thank you so much for all these updates. Can't keep up with them but I really do appreciate the fact that you are posting them as fast as they come out.

ty Inga! yw :)

[odette]

Odette, would you have a link to Rev. Grund (I think that's the name) interview with Geraldo? I think it was Friday night. I could be mistaken but I remember reading something about it. I think his son is the Jesse Casey was engaged to. JMO and I'm probably way off base.

Rose let me know if this is what you wanted. I haven't got time at the moment to watch the videos.

YOUTUBE VIDEO - Geraldo - 8/30/2008 - Part 1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFrbpaRP6r8&feature=related)

YOUTUBE VIDEO - Geraldo - 8/30/2008 - Part 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3SrNyX-dmWo&feature=related)

[joekuhl79]

Excerpt: ATTORNEY SAYS HE WILL REPRESENT CASEY'S PARENTS

There was a big development Thursday concerning George and Cindy Anthony. High-profile attorney Mark Nejame said he will represent them, but not Casey. Mark Nejame told Eyewitness News he has decided he will take on Cindy and George Anthony's case. ...

. . . . . http://i36.tinypic.com/a5do94.jpg
. . . . . ATTORNEY: Mark Nejame

Link: Bond Posted On Casey's New Charges, Attorney To Represent Parents (http://www.wftv.com/news/17382107/detail.html)

Link: NEW CHARGES: Read Both New Arrest Affidavits (PDF) (http://www.wftv.com/download/2008/0903/17382646.pdf)



Awesome links, Odette! An attorney is going to represent George and Cindy?!

**Why would they need an attorney?!**

[deacon]

someone please lock her up.she IS hindering the investigation,with her mistruths.

That is her plan, IMO.:mad:

[ErrinSpelling]

Awesome links, Odette! An attorney is going to represent George and Cindy?!

**Why would they need an attorney?!**

i was going to write that, but i was busy having anervous breakdown, with my own attorney...
the attorney sounds like they need him, to fight the bad publicity..maybe he should just put tape,on their mouth.

[ErrinSpelling]

That is her plan, IMO.:mad:

she is awfully good at her plan.

[ErrinSpelling]

Rose let me know if this is what you wanted. I haven't got time at the moment to watch the videos.

YOUTUBE VIDEO - Geraldo - 8/30/2008 - Part 1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFrbpaRP6r8&feature=related)

YOUTUBE VIDEO - Geraldo - 8/30/2008 - Part 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3SrNyX-dmWo&feature=related)

i can't speak for rose, but it looks like the 1st one...thank-you!

[joekuhl79]

i was going to write that, but i was busy having anervous breakdown, with my own attorney...
the attorney sounds like they need him, to fight the bad publicity..maybe he should just put tape,on their mouth.

I thought that would be a Public Relations person, or a spokesman (they already have one of those, supposedly).

In my mind, if you have an attorney representing you, you've committed - or accused of committing - a crime and need legal representation. Though I could be wrong!

[ErrinSpelling]

I thought that would be a Public Relations person, or a spokesman (they already have one of those, supposedly).

In my mind, if you have an attorney representing you, you've committed - or accused of committing - a crime and need legal representation. Though I could be wrong!

the PR guy must be tired of smiling on tv...no, not really,i think you are exactly right about why they need an attorney.he made it clear, he will not be casey's attorney.

[rosejustrose]

Awesome links, Odette! An attorney is going to represent George and Cindy?!

**Why would they need an attorney?!**

Ummmm, obstruction of justice, providing false statements to authorities, covering up a crime, aiding and abetting, and quite possibly accessory to murder, to name a few. These people are not innocent. Cindy has made a circus out of her granddaughter's disappearance. She should be jailed immediately. How dare she discredit Equusearch and the bounty hunter who bailed her sorry excuse of a daughter out of jail. She's a pyscho b/i/t/c/h who has gone way over the line this time. I hope they bring charges and ask for such a large sum of bond that they'll be stuck in jail. These people are really making me sick to my stomach.:cuss: JMO and no offense intended.

[ErrinSpelling]

Excerpt: Miller responded to the statement.

"This is about Caylee, period, the end," Miller said. "And I would hope, if something has happened to Caylee, I would hope Cindy would want us out here finding her body too. If Cindy wants us to stop looking for her body, guess what -- we are not going to."

Link: Missing Caylee's Grandmother Fires Back After Harsh Words On TV Show (http://www.local6.com/news/17391069/detail.html)


tim responded to her beautifully & with class,something cindy doesn't seem to understand.

[ErrinSpelling]

Ummmm, obstruction of justice, providing false statements to authorities, covering up a crime, aiding and abetting, and quite possibly accessory to murder, to name a few. These people are not innocent. Cindy has made a circus out of her granddaughter's disappearance. She should be jailed immediately. How dare she discredit Equusearch and the bounty hunter who bailed her sorry excuse of a daughter out of jail. She's a pyscho b/i/t/c/h who has gone way over the line this time. I hope they bring charges and ask for such a large sum of bond that they'll be stuck in jail. These people are really making me sick to my stomach.:cuss: JMO and no offense intended.

that is the truest post,i've ever seen.

[rosejustrose]

Rose let me know if this is what you wanted. I haven't got time at the moment to watch the videos.

YOUTUBE VIDEO - Geraldo - 8/30/2008 - Part 1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFrbpaRP6r8&feature=related)

YOUTUBE VIDEO - Geraldo - 8/30/2008 - Part 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3SrNyX-dmWo&feature=related)


Thank you, Odette! You're awesome:beer:

[rosejustrose]

"Tim Miller, the leader of EquuSearch, was asked about the Anthony family not being cooperative, and that they claim searchers are wasting their time.

"I don't want to talk about Casey. I don't want to talk about Cindy. I want to find Caylee, and it's obvious we're not going to get any help from anybody else so we just have to do it ourselves and I think they could make it easier for us, but I don't think that we need them either. We'll do the best we can do without them," Miller said."

http://www.wesh.com/news/17388359/detail.html

WTG Tim!!

ITA. Tim Miller knows the pain of having a child taken away. He's a good man that has dedicated countless hours searching for missing persons. There aren't enough people in this world like him. Cindy Anthony is a classless, worthless, piece of stupidity. She's making a mockery of little Caylee's life. That little girl isn't important to her. The only thing that matters to her is that people NOT point at her and say "Hey, there's the nutjob who raised a nutjob who murdered a beautiful little baby girl." It's all about appearance. It's all surface, nothing is deep about these people, nothing at all. JMO.

[ErrinSpelling]

ITA. Tim Miller knows the pain of having a child taken away. He's a good man that has dedicated countless hours searching for missing persons. There aren't enough people in this world like him. Cindy Anthony is a classless, worthless, piece of stupidity. She's making a mockery of little Caylee's life. That little girl isn't important to her. The only thing that matters to her is that people NOT point at her and say "Hey, there's the nutjob who raised a nutjob who murdered a beautiful little baby girl." It's all about appearance. It's all surface, nothing is deep about these people, nothing at all. JMO.

that makes more sense, than what i was wondering:if cindy thought her actions were going to make the police magically drop the charges & then she won't lose her house paying a good defense attorney , for casey's trial.

[deacon]

she is awfully good at her plan.

Maybe but it will fall apart, I hope. "The best laid plans of mice and men...."

[odette]

FOX 35 Truck 25 Web Cam - Anthony Residence (http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/truck25mobilecam.html)

[ErrinSpelling]

Maybe but it will fall apart, I hope. "The best laid plans of mice and men...."

i wish it would fall apart very soon.

[Notknowingall]

i wish it would fall apart very soon.

I agree there. I think we all do.

[rosejustrose]

Maybe but it will fall apart, I hope. "The best laid plans of mice and men...."

If Cindy has a plan and this is it, that's pretty scary. The only thing she's succeeded in doing is alienating a large number of the population, a truly altruistic man like Tim Miller, Florida LE, her neighbors, a bounty hunter who went out on a limb for her, and probably everyone who knows her. Her protestations of Casey's innocence and that Caylee is alive are ridiculous. Her plan has already failed. She's convincing more people that Casey is guilty and Caylee is dead everytime she opens her mouth and says something inane, like someone else put a dead body in the trunk. Of course that's true, happens all the time in Disneyland. :rolleyes:JMO.

[applesandorange]

WoW!! I have been away battling the flu and I get on the computer to find all these new posts. You guys are awesome!

Now my opinions.... First of all I think Padilla was reaching by saying he thinks Lee is Caylee's father. I remember thinking when I found out Casey's brother's name that she must have been close to him. I thought she combined her name and Lee's name to get Caylee. This didn't seem strange to me at all and still doesn't. I have friends who have named their chidlren after their siblings. I do not think Lee is Caylee's father. I think Casey has no clue who the father is and that's why he isn't listed anywhere. IMO if she did know she would have listed him for 2 reasons. The first being that she would get child support. Money is all this girl thinks about. The second is the father would most likely have weekend visitations. This would make it so easy for Casey to go out and party.

Now on to the gp's. They are guilty as sin or they wouldn't need a lawyer. I think it was said on NG last night that it is not illegal to not say the truth. I do think Cindy has gone much farther than just lying though. I think she should be locked up. George as far as evidence goes has done nothing but lie so I'm not sure they could lock him up. However if more evidence surfaces that he helped in any way to conver this crime up then he should be locked up. I agree with whoever said that this family is not deep at all.

If this was me, my parents would be trying to find my child any possible way. The only thing they would be worried about would be to bring their grandchild home for burial. They surely wouldn't worry about me. They know I'm in prison. Of course they would support me later but at this point they would be wanting my child's body to be found.

JMO

[deacon]

If Cindy has a plan and this is it, that's pretty scary. The only thing she's succeeded in doing is alienating a large number of the population, a truly altruistic man like Tim Miller, Florida LE, her neighbors, a bounty hunter who went out on a limb for her, and probably everyone who knows her. Her protestations of Casey's innocence and that Caylee is alive are ridiculous. Her plan has already failed. She's convincing more people that Casey is guilty and Caylee is dead everytime she opens her mouth and says something inane, like someone else put a dead body in the trunk. Of course that's true, happens all the time in Disneyland. :rolleyes:JMO.

I agree with you. I didn't say it was a good plan, just her plan. Every move and statement she makes just digs the hole deeper and convinces me more that she knows at least part of what happened. Only one person knows the whole truth and she ain't talkin yet. That entire family is alienating everybody

[One2Snoop]

Late Thursday morning, Eyewitness News received a statement from Casey Anthony's mother. In an email, she blasts the bounty hunter who helped get Casey released on bond and the organizer of the search organization.

"Leonard Padilla and Tim Miller came to me under false pretenses. Both claiming their sole purpose to find Caylee alive. Tim Miller misrepresented his intentions, and is falsely accusing me of not cooperating with him, when it is evident his motives were to obtain publicity for his organization at the expense of exploiting my granddaughters disappearance. Tim Miller tried to discredit Kid Finders Network by falsely stating that they tried to pull out of the search for Caylee. Mr. Miller also claims that he spent twelve hours in my home with my family including Casey, when in fact he spent only a few hours total with me and minutes with Casey. This is an example of Tim Miller following in Leonard Padillas footsteps. Although I feel his organization has a purpose, his misrepresentation has tainted the efforts of so many people with good intentions. I would have expected Tim Miller to speak with me one on one, rather than me hearing him on Nancy Grace."

Link: CINDY ANTHONY MAKES STRONG STATEMENT VIA EMAIL (http://www.wftv.com/news/17382107/detail.html)

:eek: Is she for real? :rolleyes: :punch: I wonder if anyone in the Anthony family has done a search on truth serum recently? :flamemad: JMO.

[rosejustrose]

:eek: Is she for real? :rolleyes: :punch: I wonder if anyone in the Anthony family has done a search on truth serum recently? :flamemad: JMO.

Nah, just chloroform.

[deacon]

:eek: Is she for real? :rolleyes: :punch: I wonder if anyone in the Anthony family has done a search on truth serum recently? :flamemad: JMO.

For some reason I don't think "The Truth" is in them. JMO

[odette]

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. . . . . Tim Miller

Link: A Profile of Tim Miller and Texas EquuSearch (http://www.trutv.com/library/crime/criminal_mind/forensics/texas_equusearch/3.html)

[Ruzzty]

Someone posted bond again?

I heard this on talk radio... I'll post any info if this is true.

http://www.wftv.com/news/17393803/detail.html

"Casey Anthony To Get Out Of Jail Again, Agencies Posting Bond" WFTV.COM

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Excerpt: Investigators won't confirm reports that they found traces of chloroform in the truck of Casey Anthony's car. A criminal expert told Eyewitness News that he believes the child's mother may have used chloroform to knock her child out.

Link: FORENSIC EXPERT SAYS CHLOROFORM COULD HAVE KILLED CAYLEE (http://www.wftv.com/news/17382107/detail.html)
:confused:um, the grandparents know they are making spectacles of themselves? nejame thinks & that's why they need him.
wouldn't it be easier to just stop ..i like how he makes it clear, he isn't casey's attorney.

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Casey Anthony To Get Out Of Jail Again, Agencies Posting Bond

"ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. -- Eyewitness News has learned Casey Anthony will be bonded out of jail Friday morning. Two bond agencies, Macdonald Bail Bonds out of Kissimmee and Joe Von Waldner Bail Bonds out of Orlando, are working together to post the $500,000 bond.

The agencies each put up $250,000. At this time, no details are available as to why the two agencies decided to post the bond. Casey Anthony will be on home confinement and monitoring when she is released."

http://www.wftv.com/news/17393803/detail.html

oh no not again. thank-you odette & ruzzty!

[odette]

oh no not again. thank-you odette & ruzzty!

ty Errin .. I didn't see that ruzzty had already posted about Casey Anthony being bonded out before I posted so I went back and deleted my post .. oh well :tongue:

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ty Errin .. I didn't see that ruzzty had already posted about Casey Anthony being bonded out before I posted so I went back and deleted my post .. oh well :tongue:

you both were working together,unintentionally.we need you both.

[Woostock]

That makes me sick. Why in the world would anyone bond her out??? I have a gut feeling that when she is back home with her parents the tension will be very high . How ironic in one house we have a least one sociopath and two screwballs all under the same roof and nobody gives a crap about where little Caylee is. This family is scum. If they were out combing the bushes and taking part in looking for their grandchild they would have a different standing but the way they act is totally working against them. If Casey gets away with this someone might still do her in....tensions are high with the public. That's something when the grandparents actually need an attorney.I guess in this family the apple did not fall far from the tree.

[minga]

That makes me sick. Why in the world would anyone bond her out??? I have a gut feeling that when she is back home with her parents the tension will be very high . How ironic in one house we have a least one sociopath and two screwballs all under the same roof and nobody gives a crap about where little Caylee is. This family is scum. If they were out combing the bushes and taking part in looking for their grandchild they would have a different standing but the way they act is totally working against them. If Casey gets away with this someone might still do her in....tensions are high with the public. That's something when the grandparents actually need an attorney.I guess in this family the apple did not fall far from the tree.

It's probably a good thing they aren't out looking. They would probably do even more to hinder a search. I think they don't want her body found.

[SaraSidle]

Boy, I sure missed a lot! Yes, the FBI, as well as other labs, use chloroform on certain tests. But, those tests are conducted in controlled settings, not in the trunks of cars. I guess Kobi and whatever defense attorney Casey goes to trial with will try to make a case that the FBI or local LE contaminated her trunk and that it was just a coincidence that she happened to have been looking it up:rolleyes: This case is just rolling with coinkydinks:cool: Let's see, Casey abandons car and someone picks that very car to dump a dead body in the trunk; the trunk smells like decomposition but it's really just rotten pizza and dirty diapers; gas cans go missing and are reported as stolen to LE on June 24 - the last day someone said they heard Caylee in the background of a phone conversation with Casey; cadaver dogs hit in the Anthony backyard near an area where George poured concrete on July 4th which is just one day after Cindy posted her myspace page with how sad she was someone took Caylee away; Casey borrows a shovel from a neighbor but hey, the bamboo needed to be dug up; what will these people say next? Now Padilla is alleging that the hair in the trunk was an exact DNA match because Lee was Caylee's father:eek: Where'd he come up with that - Caylee's name??? IMO, only identical twins have the same DNA, not children of incest. The bones in these people's closets have been rattled to the core. Sick, sad and disgusting. There is a missing baby out there and finding her is all that matters. There will be plenty of time to send this family to jail in the future. IMO, charges will be filed against each and every one of them and that'll be the right and just thing to do. JMHO and no offense intended.

Very good post Rose. like you were repeating my thoughts.

[odette]

FOX 35 Mobile Web Cam 1- Anthony Residence (http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam.html)

[One2Snoop]

FOX 35 Mobile Web Cam 1- Anthony Residence (http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam.html)


LOL - is that crime scene tape they have up around their house? How fitting.

[One2Snoop]

ORLANDO, Fla. -- Casey Anthony, the mother of a missing 3-year-old Orlando girl, will again leave jail after her $500,000 bond was posted by an anonymous party. ... cont.

$500,000 Bond Posted For Mother Of Missing 3-Year-Old Orlando Girl (http://www.local6.com/news/17393373/detail.html)

"Casey Anthony is being bailed out of jail. The individual posting the bond prefers to remain anonymous and is doing it because of the belief that Ms. Anthony's Constitutional rights have been grossly violated."

Seriously, what about Caylee's rights? Someone most likely named Casey grossly violated hers. IMO :flamemad:

[tv]

TV not sure what she does. Just heard she was a nurse. I am not saying Cindy had access to it just wondering to myself why Cindy would pop into my head when they were discussing the chloroform. Just making me go ummmmmmm lol. Nice to see ya glad to be posting with you keep those questions coming.


***This is my opinion

Thanks for the welcome, Ingason. I'm glad to be here too. This case is has had me going ummmmmm since day one!

[soccermom]

Thank god for this place as my TV is out and cant watch NG

Any updates so far???

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i wonder if i'm wrong thinking, the grandparents defense attorney is behind the new bail...who other than family,would talk about casey's rights being violated?

on NG ,it took her producer all of 10 minutes, to buy chloroform online.

[soccermom]

on NG ,it took her producer all of 10 minutes, to buy chloroform online.


Thanks Errin for the update :D

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Thank god for this place as my TV is out and cant watch NG

Any updates so far???

i wish i could type fast.i wrote that , before you asked...i haven't heard anything odette's links didn't already have,yet.

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Thanks Errin for the update :D

NG did stress, that some reports about trace amounts of chloroform are incorrect...it was a lot, but i don't remember the word used.

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dr. bethany marshall has called the family pathological liars, at least 4 times!

i'm losing all respect for koblinsky...he isn't stupid...he has to know it's easy to order chloroform.

[odette]

New Caylee Anthony Sub-forum
http://boards.crimelibrary.com/showpost.php?p=9121897&postcount=1

Caylee Anthony The disappearance of Caylee Anthony
http://boards.crimelibrary.com/forumdisplay.php?f=496

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we are in bad shape, if i'm the only one left to type...maybe 10 est or 1am or hopefully odette will have a NG link tomorrow.

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New Caylee Anthony Sub-forum
http://boards.crimelibrary.com/showpost.php?p=9121897&postcount=1

Caylee Anthony The disappearance of Caylee Anthony
http://boards.crimelibrary.com/forumdisplay.php?f=496

i'm confused, lost & alone?

[minga]

dr. bethany marshall has called the family pathological liars, at least 4 times!

i'm losing all respect for koblinsky...he isn't stupid...he has to know it's easy to order chloroform.

He sounds really stupid, but I agree with the person that said they thought he was probably going to be working for the defense as their expert witness. (Sorry I can't recall who it was.) That would be a good reason for him to hem and haw on his answers, at the expense of looking like a fool. IMO.

About the lie detector test NG mentioned, I think it would be useless to try to give her one because she could pass it. She's as cold blooded as a snake, she wouldn't get excited and fail an answer. IMO

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He sounds really stupid, but I agree with the person that said they thought he was probably going to be working for the defense as their expert witness. (Sorry I can't recall who it was.) That would be a good reason for him to hem and haw on his answers, at the expense of looking like a fool. IMO.

About the lie detector test NG mentioned, I think it would be useless to try to give her one because she could pass it. She's as cold blooded as a snake, she wouldn't get excited and fail an answer. IMO

i have never seen dr. k. give answers like he is on the defense side,in a case,until the last 3 nights,in a row.
she is a pathological cold blooded snake.

[susie31023]

i have never seen dr. k. give answers like he is on the defense side,in a case,until the last 3 nights,in a row.
she is a pathological cold blooded snake.

ES, I can think of a lot of other words besides snake to describe them all...Why wont the LE do something? Are they just trying to make their case tighter or they incompetent...Someone needs to stand up and say enough is enough...JMO

[soccermom]

ES, I can think of a lot of other words besides snake to describe them all...Why wont the LE do something? Are they just trying to make their case tighter or they incompetent...Someone needs to stand up and say enough is enough...JMO

I agree

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ES, I can think of a lot of other words besides snake to describe them all...Why wont the LE do something? Are they just trying to make their case tighter or they incompetent...Someone needs to stand up and say enough is enough...JMO

i think the laws are for the criminal.they make it so hard to convict people,so i believe LE has to make their case tighter.
they went from putting people in prison for stealing a loaf of bread years ago, to letting them murder 3 people , before they can even arrest them....& i don't really think i'm exaggerating.

[odette]

i'm confused, lost & alone?

Errin this is the link for the main page for the Caylee Anthony Forum ...

http://boards.crimelibrary.com/forumdisplay.php?f=496

Just click on that link above and you will see that are more threads now. We also have a separate thread for News Updates. :)

[rosejustrose]

i'm confused, lost & alone?


Don't worry, Errin. You're not confused, lost or alone. The thread for Caylee has been moved. We're all still here, we're all still pissed at what's going on and we're all still hoping and praying that someone, somewhere will consider Caylee's rights and see that justice is done for that baby. IMO, it's a travesty of justice that Casey will once again be home. What does it take to bring murder, even manslaughter, charges against her? I'm so afraid that this sick, twisted family may very well get away with Caylee's death and that one day poor little Caylee will be nothing more than a memory to some and nothing to the Anthonys. JMHO.

[tv]

i have never seen dr. k. give answers like he is on the defense side,in a case,until the last 3 nights,in a row.
she is a pathological cold blooded snake.

I'm really disappointed in Dr. K. He's backpeddling and making excuses. There must be some potential $$$ there somewhere. :(

[SaraSidle]

Don't worry, Errin. You're not confused, lost or alone. The thread for Caylee has been moved. We're all still here, we're all still pissed at what's going on and we're all still hoping and praying that someone, somewhere will consider Caylee's rights and see that justice is done for that baby. IMO, it's a travesty of justice that Casey will once again be home. What does it take to bring murder, even manslaughter, charges against her? I'm so afraid that this sick, twisted family may very well get away with Caylee's death and that one day poor little Caylee will be nothing more than a memory to some and nothing to the Anthonys. JMHO.

I am sure with such a public case the prosecutor does not want the jury or judge to have any "reasonable doubt". LE is desperate to find more evidence that will directly and physically to tie Casey to the murder. IMO

[SaraSidle]

I'm really disappointed in Dr. K. He's backpeddling and making excuses. There must be some potential $$$ there somewhere. :(

He is turning red now and not really answering questions. they need to replace him IMO

[susie31023]

i think the laws are for the criminal.they make it so hard to convict people,so i believe LE has to make their case tighter.
they went from putting people in prison for stealing a loaf of bread years ago, to letting them murder 3 people , before they can even arrest them....& i don't really think i'm exaggerating.


Errin I agree totally..The criminals now run our legal system..It just makes soooo angry that these people who should be the very ones who protected this little angel are the ones who harmed her...
:cuss:

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Errin this is the link for the main page for the Caylee Anthony Forum ...

http://boards.crimelibrary.com/forumdisplay.php?f=496

Just click on that link above and you will see that are more threads now. We also have a separate thread for News Updates. :)

i've got it now, ty!

[beachbum]

Has anyone heard anymore about the dumpster by Casey's boyfriends house?
There was alot of talk about it and I havent heard anymore. There is so much of this convention stuff on hard to catch the news.

ITA that I hate they have let her out of jail --again.:flamemad:

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Don't worry, Errin. You're not confused, lost or alone. The thread for Caylee has been moved. We're all still here, we're all still pissed at what's going on and we're all still hoping and praying that someone, somewhere will consider Caylee's rights and see that justice is done for that baby. IMO, it's a travesty of justice that Casey will once again be home. What does it take to bring murder, even manslaughter, charges against her? I'm so afraid that this sick, twisted family may very well get away with Caylee's death and that one day poor little Caylee will be nothing more than a memory to some and nothing to the Anthonys. JMHO.

it takes too long rose & i'm afraid too, but this is the first time,i have seen everyone on the same side, so i hope they find caylee soon & justice soon.

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I'm really disappointed in Dr. K. He's backpeddling and making excuses. There must be some potential $$$ there somewhere. :(

so it's not just me...his heart doesn't seem to be in it...if NG pushes him, he'll say he doesn't really believe what he just said.

[odette]

i've got it now, ty!

Cool :)

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Errin I agree totally..The criminals now run our legal system..It just makes soooo angry that these people who should be the very ones who protected this little angel are the ones who harmed her...
:cuss:

the criminals have been running the legal system, for too long...it feels like forever...no good sociopaths...

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Has anyone heard anymore about the dumpster by Casey's boyfriends house?
There was alot of talk about it and I havent heard anymore. There is so much of this convention stuff on hard to catch the news.

ITA that I hate they have let her out of jail --again.:flamemad:
is that what padilla said we would hear about soon?

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Cool :)
:)

it just hit me.that reporter on NG said something like he can't have an opinion, but then he jumped on padilla like he had an opinion & very rudely accused him of trying to get a book deal.