Caylee Anthony Case Discussion Only

[joekuhl79]

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/services/newspaper/printedition/wednesday/localandstate/orl-caylee-casey-anthony-still-in-jail-08aug20,0,2262733.story

Sounds like these bondsmen are having a hard time coming to terms with who has liability for what because still she sits in jail. :beer:

Someone's draggingass there...I wonder...if LE has DNA evidence that points to the worst, and they have the cell towers pointing where Casey went afterwards - somewhere for them to search - they may keep on putting up these BS roadblocks so Casey can't get out...

[joekuhl79]

Also, yesterday I wondered about George and Cindy, their investigations and searches, and pulling the billboard around - whether they are still doing this? I have heard nothing of them in a week. Does anyone know if they are still at it? Or have they given up?

[dan_uk]

Also, yesterday I wondered about George and Cindy, their investigations and searches, and pulling the billboard around - whether they are still doing this? I have heard nothing of them in a week. Does anyone know if they are still at it? Or have they given up?wasnt it about the same time it first came out about the bondsman that they topped?

[rosejustrose]

wasnt it about the same time it first came out about the bondsman that they topped?


Dan, I think you're right! And about the same time they hired a family spokesman, IIRC. What's up with that? I haven't seen or heard of any family member making any sort of public plea or anything else. Maybe they learned their lessons. JMO.

[rosejustrose]

Also, yesterday I wondered about George and Cindy, their investigations and searches, and pulling the billboard around - whether they are still doing this? I have heard nothing of them in a week. Does anyone know if they are still at it? Or have they given up?


I wish Ruzzty would post. He/she is local and can give a good perspective about what's happening down there.

[joekuhl79]

Dan, I think you're right! And about the same time they hired a family spokesman, IIRC. What's up with that? I haven't seen or heard of any family member making any sort of public plea or anything else. Maybe they learned their lessons. JMO.

Well, it was Thursday that George and Cindy finally met with Casey again...they came out of the jail looking beaten down, and said not one thing from there on. Later that day or Friday, it was announced about Padilla, and the 'spokesman' - who hasn't spoken!

I had originally thought that something heavy went down at that meeting, they way they looked and acted afterwards, and then the fact that LE said they will withhold the tapes.

[SaraSidle]

Joe Rose and dan I totally agree. everyone stopped talking mid last week. I think mainly it was the lawyer because the tapes of Casey and the interviews with Cindy and Anthony were all making Casey look guilty. I also think the Padilla did not do their homework and no one is insuring the bond they posted. I am not sure how LE feels about it but I am sure they are anxiously looking and waiting on evidence to convict. IMO

[dan_uk]

Well, it was Thursday that George and Cindy finally met with Casey again...they came out of the jail looking beaten down, and said not one thing from there on.could casey have admitted or said somthing about whats happened to caylee and the police have told the anthonys not to say anything else because theres important info on the tapes and also thats why they arnt letting people listen to them

[INGASON14]

could casey have admitted or said somthing about whats happened to caylee and the police have told the anthonys not to say anything else because theres important info on the tapes and also thats why they arnt letting people listen to them

Dan good point. Maybe she did say something and this is why they are having a hard time posting the bond. She could have said once I get out you will never see me or Caylee again. They might feel she is a flight risk and they can't chance it. I only live an hour from Orlando and there has been a couple of times I have wanted to get into my car and drive to the jail and slap her so hard her head would spin. She has no regards for her daughter and it makes me sick. I have a grandbaby living with me and if I don't see her for a day or two I am going nuts. My daughter also has to call (she complains about being a single mom, but if her daughter goes to see her dad, she's going nuts and wants NaNa back) about three times a day if she is not with the baby.

***This is my opinion

[INGASON14]

Well, it was Thursday that George and Cindy finally met with Casey again...they came out of the jail looking beaten down, and said not one thing from there on. Later that day or Friday, it was announced about Padilla, and the 'spokesman' - who hasn't spoken!

I had originally thought that something heavy went down at that meeting, they way they looked and acted afterwards, and then the fact that LE said they will withhold the tapes.

Joe they could have been beaten down because Casey won't tell them where Caylee is and they are so frustrated. They really care for that little girl more than her own mother does and they are concerned for her safety. I would not want to be in Orlando if they find Caylee's body. I would not want to witness what the grandparents might do to Casey.


***This is my opinion

[dan_uk]

i dont know much about bailbonds but if casey gets out on the $500,000 bond and then gets arrested at the prison door does the bailbonds man lose his cash?
maybe hes having second thoughts on posting her bond.

ingason,
my mate lives in fort lauderdale and his wife said she wanted to go and slap the b/i/t/c/h

[soccermom]

I wish someone would

Or even better put her in with the general population in jail----why keep her away from them. I am sure other inmates arent happy knowing that she is there and what for.......let them see if they can get it out of her:tongue:

[SaraSidle]

Just about every post I read everyone wants to slap some sense into Casey. Personally I would like to shoot her up with truth serum like Brainstorm. There is no reason for Casey to tell anyone where Caylee is whether she is in or out of jail. Unless the DNA is good, or someone else finds Caylee, Casey can sure keep this a kidnapping with her lips sealed. IMO

[rosejustrose]

Dan good point. Maybe she did say something and this is why they are having a hard time posting the bond. She could have said once I get out you will never see me or Caylee again. They might feel she is a flight risk and they can't chance it. I only live an hour from Orlando and there has been a couple of times I have wanted to get into my car and drive to the jail and slap her so hard her head would spin. She has no regards for her daughter and it makes me sick. I have a grandbaby living with me and if I don't see her for a day or two I am going nuts. My daughter also has to call (she complains about being a single mom, but if her daughter goes to see her dad, she's going nuts and wants NaNa back) about three times a day if she is not with the baby.

***This is my opinion

Great post!

[rosejustrose]

Just about every post I read everyone wants to slap some sense into Casey. Personally I would like to shoot her up with truth serum like Brainstorm. There is no reason for Casey to tell anyone where Caylee is whether she is in or out of jail. Unless the DNA is good, or someone else finds Caylee, Casey can sure keep this a kidnapping with her lips sealed. IMO

Seriously! IMO, there should be some sort of exception to the rules of interogation when a life is in jeopardy. I know it's a fine constitutional line but in some cases it needs to be crossed. What if Caylee is found dead and the time of death is established at a time when Casey was jailed? Is LE culpable? Certain rights of prisoners' need to be reevaluated, IMO and OMO.

[dan_uk]

the police should of got her in court to be sentenced for the charges shes got now so she couldnt get out of jail

[dan_uk]

the witch will be out on thursday
..
^

[SaraSidle]

the witch will be out on thursday
..
^

Actually I am hearing the bond is posted but she has to have a meeting with someone to decide she is mentally fit and not a danger to herself or others before her release tomorrow on Nancy Grace. Also she has an arraignment tomorrow morning. IMO

[Amy4]

the police should of got her in court to be sentenced for the charges shes got now so she couldnt get out of jail

Dan, dear, everytime you want to type in "of," please use "have" instead! Thanks.



She'll eventually talk--young people always do. Maybe they're letting her out to go home, so mom and dad can beat the truth out of her? Maybe while they were rigging up the new phone line for the House arrest, they're also bugging the other phones...IMO

[Karin]

Actually I am hearing the bond is posted but she has to have a meeting with someone to decide she is mentally fit and not a danger to herself or others before her release tomorrow on Nancy Grace. Also she has an arraignment tomorrow morning. IMO

After watching NG tonight, I believe it is best for her to get out. I think she will have so much more pressure on her that she will eventually let someone know what is going on. I just hope she is not suicidal.

[rosejustrose]

Actually I am hearing the bond is posted but she has to have a meeting with someone to decide she is mentally fit and not a danger to herself or others before her release tomorrow on Nancy Grace. Also she has an arraignment tomorrow morning. IMO


Hi Sara:seeya: i was wathing NG also. Padilla was pretty clear that it's not a done deal yet. The psych evaluator can say he/she feels that Casey is a danger to herself and then there's no bail, she stays in jail. Another poster said she felt she should get out because there will be more pressure on her. I agree. While in jail, Casey has been able to control who she talks with and she has chosen not to talk to her family because she doesn't want to deal with the questions. It was noted on NG that while in jail, Casey has withdrawn which in some way has taken the pressure off of her. Imagine what the b/i/t/c/h is going to have to deal with if she gets out tomorrow. The media will be all over her house, she won't be able to go out of the house and she'll have to deal with questions from her family. IMO, she'll just tell them her lawyer told her not to talk. I think the Anthony's will take that line and strangle her with it. It would not suprise me at all if Cindy got physical with Casey in order to get some answers. It also wouldn't surprise me if Casey asked to go back to jail because of the media scrutiny and family questions - just like Amy Fisher (the Long Island Lolita) did back in 1992. She doesn't have to be in court tomorrow since her attorney already filed a written not guilty plea and the arraignment is just a formality. We'll see what happens tomorrow. Anything is possible in this circus of a case. Let's just hope the final act is finding precious, little Caylee alive and well. JMHO.

[SaraSidle]

Hi Sara:seeya: i was wathing NG also. Padilla was pretty clear that it's not a done deal yet. The psych evaluator can say he/she feels that Casey is a danger to herself and then there's no bail, she stays in jail. Another poster said she felt she should get out because there will be more pressure on her. I agree. While in jail, Casey has been able to control who she talks with and she has chosen not to talk to her family because she doesn't want to deal with the questions. It was noted on NG that while in jail, Casey has withdrawn which in some way has taken the pressure off of her. Imagine what the b/i/t/c/h is going to have to deal with if she gets out tomorrow. The media will be all over her house, she won't be able to go out of the house and she'll have to deal with questions from her family. IMO, she'll just tell them her lawyer told her not to talk. I think the Anthony's will take that line and strangle her with it. It would not suprise me at all if Cindy got physical with Casey in order to get some answers. It also wouldn't surprise me if Casey asked to go back to jail because of the media scrutiny and family questions - just like Amy Fisher (the Long Island Lolita) did back in 1992. She doesn't have to be in court tomorrow since her attorney already filed a written not guilty plea and the arraignment is just a formality. We'll see what happens tomorrow. Anything is possible in this circus of a case. Let's just hope the final act is finding precious, little Caylee alive and well. JMHO.

I totally agree with everything you have posted. I am going to try and not glue my self to the TV and CNN but it won't be easy.........

[SaraSidle]

Dan, dear, everytime you want to type in "of," please use "have" instead! Thanks.



She'll eventually talk--young people always do. Maybe they're letting her out to go home, so mom and dad can beat the truth out of her? Maybe while they were rigging up the new phone line for the House arrest, they're also bugging the other phones...IMO

Dan if you want to use "of" or "have" please do it whenever you want.

[SaraSidle]

Watching Greta. I believe Baez has said the bounty hunter may not talk to Casey about the case. It gets weirder and weirder and weirder IMO

[soccermom]

NG is on the phone --- god i love her and she is upset because we are off the subject because we are forgetting about Caylee.

I wonder why she hasnt been on this week?

[dcrc]

Hi Sara:seeya: i was wathing NG also. Padilla was pretty clear that it's not a done deal yet. The psych evaluator can say he/she feels that Casey is a danger to herself and then there's no bail, she stays in jail. Another poster said she felt she should get out because there will be more pressure on her. I agree. While in jail, Casey has been able to control who she talks with and she has chosen not to talk to her family because she doesn't want to deal with the questions. It was noted on NG that while in jail, Casey has withdrawn which in some way has taken the pressure off of her. Imagine what the b/i/t/c/h is going to have to deal with if she gets out tomorrow. The media will be all over her house, she won't be able to go out of the house and she'll have to deal with questions from her family. IMO, she'll just tell them her lawyer told her not to talk. I think the Anthony's will take that line and strangle her with it. It would not suprise me at all if Cindy got physical with Casey in order to get some answers. It also wouldn't surprise me if Casey asked to go back to jail because of the media scrutiny and family questions - just like Amy Fisher (the Long Island Lolita) did back in 1992. She doesn't have to be in court tomorrow since her attorney already filed a written not guilty plea and the arraignment is just a formality. We'll see what happens tomorrow. Anything is possible in this circus of a case. Let's just hope the final act is finding precious, little Caylee alive and well. JMHO.

Excellent post! Although, no has ever said that Cindy has a bad temper. Neighbors, some of the family and friends has said that Casey has a bad temper. So it wouldn't surprise me if Casey gets stir crazy after a few weeks and loses her temper with Cindy.

[dcrc]

NG is on the phone --- god i love her and she is upset because we are off the subject because we are forgetting about Caylee.

I wonder why she hasnt been on this week?

I love Nancy too and never miss her show. And its true, there is a three ring circus around Casey but this sad story is about a missing little child. My heart breaks everytime I see pictures of that sweet little girl.
If she is still alive then I pray that God will keep her safe in his loving hands. If she not alive then I know she is with God and all the sweet angels.:rose:

[lighthousedazy]

Excellent post! Although, no has ever said that Cindy has a bad temper. Neighbors, some of the family and friends has said that Casey has a bad temper. So it wouldn't surprise me if Casey gets stir crazy after a few weeks and loses her temper with Cindy.I agree. A sociopathic, "it's all about me", party girl is NOT going to be happy being home bound after a few days. This is just my opinion.

[minga]

Dan if you want to use "of" or "have" please do it whenever you want.


Thank you SS. I would of said the same thing but you got to it first. ;)

[INGASON14]

Great post!

Thank you.

[joekuhl79]

i dont know much about bailbonds but if casey gets out on the $500,000 bond and then gets arrested at the prison door does the bailbonds man lose his cash?
maybe hes having second thoughts on posting her bond.

ingason,
my mate lives in fort lauderdale and his wife said she wanted to go and slap the b/i/t/c/h

Padilla was on NG last night, and he said if they arrest her at the gate, they get the money back. If she attempts suicide - they take her back to jail and get their money back. If she commits suicide, they get their money back. If she runs, they have two years to catch her and get their money back - pro-rated, of course!

[joekuhl79]

I agree. A sociopathic, "it's all about me", party girl is NOT going to be happy being home bound after a few days. This is just my opinion.

If she goes home, it'll be worse than jail! In jail, she didn't have to do anything or talk to anyone. If she goes home, it's not like she can go 'searching' for Caylee - she'll have the ankle bracelet on, and can't go far from the house. Although her dipsht attorney will tell her not to talk to anyone about anything, you know her parents are going to grill her 24/7.

Suicide? I think she is too self-centered to even think about that!

[dan_uk]

Padilla was on NG last night, and he said if they arrest her at the gate, they get the money back. If she attempts suicide - they take her back to jail and get their money back. If she commits suicide, they get their money back. If she runs, they have two years to catch her and get their money back - pro-rated, of course!thanks for the info joe

[dan_uk]

shes out of jail

[rosejustrose]

shes out of jail

Morning, Dan! Thanks for the update. Oh well, it should get pretty interesting now.

[Notknowingall]

Thank you SS. I would of said the same thing but you got to it first. ;)

Ditto.

[rosejustrose]

Dan if you want to use "of" or "have" please do it whenever you want.

Thank you SS. I would of said the same thing but you got to it first. ;)

Ditto.

Double ditto! Dan is a wonderful poster and I enjoy reading all of his posts.

Thanks, Dan:beer:

[dan_uk]

Morning, Dan! Thanks for the update. Oh well, it should get pretty interesting now.good morning rose,i wonder how long before shes on tv doing a interview trying to clear her name

[dan_uk]

Double ditto! Dan is a wonderful poster and I enjoy reading all of his posts.

Thanks, Dan:beer:thank you rose,shame there isnt a blushing smilie :D

[FDInLaw]

Double ditto! Dan is a wonderful poster and I enjoy reading all of his posts.

Thanks, Dan:beer:Who called for the grammar police anyway??? :shrug:

:biggrin:


Welcome to the board all you newbies!!! :seeya:

[FDInLaw]

thank you rose,shame there isnt a blushing smilie :D

Sure there is. . . ":o"

[dan_uk]

Sure there is. . . ":o"
i didnt notice it :D

[joekuhl79]

http://www.wftv.com/video/17253635/index.html

Ha ha...the reporter comes right out and asks Casey if she killed Caylee.

Watch Baez start shoving reporters...

[FDInLaw]

http://www.wftv.com/video/17253635/index.html

Ha ha...the reporter comes right out and asks Casey if she killed Caylee.

Watch Baez start shoving reporters...Thanks for posting the link. I would have asked the same question!

[SaraSidle]

Thanks for posting the link. I would have asked the same question!

Me too. It seems like the question of the summer. I am trying to imagine the tension in the air at the house and I get nervous. When will the screaming start. I guess the neighbors will tell us. I still think she is not going to say anything and we need to keep looking for Caylee and hoping the DNA is good. IMO

[Notknowingall]

Thanks for posting the link. I would have asked the same question!

I might have jsut came out and asked here "Where is Caylle's body" as my gut tells me she in no longer with us. Be it by accident or not, I do not think Caylee is alive.

[rosejustrose]

Thanks for posting the link. I would have asked the same question!

Me too. It seems like the question of the summer. I am trying to imagine the tension in the air at the house and I get nervous. When will the screaming start. I guess the neighbors will tell us. I still think she is not going to say anything and we need to keep looking for Caylee and hoping the DNA is good. IMO

I might have jsut came out and asked here "Where is Caylle's body" as my gut tells me she in no longer with us. Be it by accident or not, I do not think Caylee is alive.

I guess great minds think alike because that would be the first thing I would have asked her, too.

Call me cold, but if she were my daughter I would have to put aside the love I had for her and toss her butt up against a wall and strangle hold her when she walked through the door until she told me the truth about what she did with Caylee. I'm an impatient person by nature and I don't suffer liars so I'd have a very hard time dealing with Casey. If she didn't give me any concrete answers, I'd call the Sheriff's office and tell them I didn't want her in my house and send her right back to jail. JMHO.

[One2Snoop]

http://www.wftv.com/video/17253635/index.html

Ha ha...the reporter comes right out and asks Casey if she killed Caylee.

Watch Baez start shoving reporters...

Thanks for the link to the video. :beer: Was that Pa-dill-a in the cowboy hat telling everyone to back up?

[joekuhl79]

Thanks for the link to the video. :beer: Was that Pa-dill-a in the cowboy hat telling everyone to back up?

Yeah - Padilla is the one in the ten gallon hat that gets in the front seat. He should have had a whip..."*whuh-cheh* BAACK VARMINTS! GIT BACK!"

[rosejustrose]

Thanks for the link to the video. :beer: Was that Pa-dill-a in the cowboy hat telling everyone to back up?

Sure was. I guess he and Casey will get to know one another on the ride to her parents house. Since he's such a super hero, maybe Caylee will be found today. I'm not holding my breath, though. JMO.

[rosejustrose]

Yeah - Padilla is the one in the ten gallon hat that gets in the front seat. He should have had a whip..."*whuh-cheh* BAACK VARMINTS! GIT BACK!"

The visual is killing me :biggrin: ROFLMAO

[Ruzzty]

Whats to prevent her from writing a note to someone she trusts - telling them where Caylee is. Then having that friend, whom she trusts, going out and hiding Caylee even further from searchers + cleaning any evidence, etc... all without LE's knowledge.

Looks like another OJ case in the making. She will devote the rest of her life in finding those who "took" Caylee. :rolleyes:

You know... its pretty sad really. A mother has to use the only possible scenario to coverup what she did to her daughter. There is no other possible excuse that she could think of. Now, just wait, imagine if a body is found.... her new defense will be 1) the kidnappers did it or 2) the death was an accident - again, to shift any responsibility away from her as a person/mother. We all know the likely truth though. You don't hand off your child to a complete stranger that DOESN'T EVEN EXIST! imho

[rosejustrose]

http://www.wftv.com/news/17253396/detail.html?rss=orlc&psp=news

See link for complete article.

I didn't realize Casey was employed or was a church goer. I wonder if those pre-approved appointments include having her nails done.:cuss:

Thanks for the link, FDInLaw:)

[rosejustrose]

Whats to prevent her from writing a note to someone she trusts - telling them where Caylee is. Then having that friend, whom she trusts, going out and hiding Caylee even further from searchers + cleaning any evidence, etc... all without LE's knowledge.

Looks like another OJ case in the making. She will devote the rest of her life in finding those who "took" Caylee. :rolleyes:

You know... its pretty sad really. A mother has to use the only possible scenario to coverup what she did to her daughter. There is no other possible excuse that she could think of. Now, just wait, imagine if a body is found.... her new defense will be 1) the kidnappers did it or 2) the death was an accident - again, to shift any responsibility away from her as a person/mother. We all know the likely truth though. You don't hand off your child to a complete stranger that DOESN'T EVEN EXIST! imho

Oh my, Ruzzty! Aren't you the skeptic:) Don't ya know that Nicole and Ron's killer will be found on a golf course in Florida? Oh my, maybe it's the same person who "took" Caylee!!!:eek::rolleyes:

BTW, how are things by you? Hope TS Fay isn't having too much of a bad impact on you all.

[Ruzzty]

Oh my, Ruzzty! Aren't you the skeptic:) Don't ya know that Nicole and Ron's killer will be found on a golf course in Florida? Oh my, maybe it's the same person who "took" Caylee!!!:eek::rolleyes:

BTW, how are things by you? Hope TS Fay isn't having too much of a bad impact on you all.

The rain is relentless!!!!! We are discovering leaks that we never knew existed! Talk about a mess... the rain is pooling up against our building and the water is leaking in from under it. Coming up through the carpet!!@#@

I don't even want to start with the roof! Wish it would just move along and let us prepare for #2. At least Hurricanes tend to move through (24hour storm max). Fay is stuck on spin cycle!!!!!!!

[rosejustrose]

The rain is relentless!!!!! We are discovering leaks that we never knew existed! Talk about a mess... the rain is pooling up against our building and the water is leaking in from under it. Coming up through the carpet!!@#@

I don't even want to start with the roof! Wish it would just move along and let us prepare for #2. At least Hurricanes tend to move through (24hour storm max). Fay is stuck on spin cycle!!!!!!!

My good thoughts are with you. I hope it ends soon. I've lived through too many hurricanes to count and none of them were pleasant. All the best.

This weather certainly isn't boding well for finding Caylee or any evidence linking her demise to Casey. Let's all pray she's still alive and well:rose:

[SaraSidle]

Whats to prevent her from writing a note to someone she trusts - telling them where Caylee is. Then having that friend, whom she trusts, going out and hiding Caylee even further from searchers + cleaning any evidence, etc... all without LE's knowledge.

Looks like another OJ case in the making. She will devote the rest of her life in finding those who "took" Caylee. :rolleyes:

You know... its pretty sad really. A mother has to use the only possible scenario to coverup what she did to her daughter. There is no other possible excuse that she could think of. Now, just wait, imagine if a body is found.... her new defense will be 1) the kidnappers did it or 2) the death was an accident - again, to shift any responsibility away from her as a person/mother. We all know the likely truth though. You don't hand off your child to a complete stranger that DOESN'T EVEN EXIST! imho


I agree with this totally Ruzzty and I have been fearing it all along. Rose that is a great comparison but at least Nicole's family got her back to bury.
Ruzzty I am so sorry about your weather and leaks. We have 2 other posters going through this. What a mess. I never heard of a hurricane going back and forth like that. Rose maybe it will help find Caylee too. IMO

[joekuhl79]

Whats to prevent her from writing a note to someone she trusts - telling them where Caylee is. Then having that friend, whom she trusts, going out and hiding Caylee even further from searchers + cleaning any evidence, etc... all without LE's knowledge.

Looks like another OJ case in the making. She will devote the rest of her life in finding those who "took" Caylee. :rolleyes:

You know... its pretty sad really. A mother has to use the only possible scenario to coverup what she did to her daughter. There is no other possible excuse that she could think of. Now, just wait, imagine if a body is found.... her new defense will be 1) the kidnappers did it or 2) the death was an accident - again, to shift any responsibility away from her as a person/mother. We all know the likely truth though. You don't hand off your child to a complete stranger that DOESN'T EVEN EXIST! imho



About having a 'friend' become an accessory - that will not happen. She doesn't have any friends willing to risk their lives for her - they all know she's a selfish lying thief. Now even IF she DID have a friend willing to do that for her, there would be no way to communicate that to anyone without being found out. She will be under a microscope as long as she is out of jail, until Caylee is found.

The root of the problem with OJ's case was bad detective work and a sloppy prosecution. LE in THIS case are making sure that doesn't happen here.

[rosejustrose]

About having a 'friend' become an accessory - that will not happen. She doesn't have any friends willing to risk their lives for her - they all know she's a selfish lying thief. Now even IF she DID have a friend willing to do that for her, there would be no way to communicate that to anyone without being found out. She will be under a microscope as long as she is out of jail, until Caylee is found.

The root of the problem with OJ's case was bad detective work and a sloppy prosecution. LE in THIS case are making sure that doesn't happen here.

You are so right! :beer:

[rosejustrose]

I agree with this totally Ruzzty and I have been fearing it all along. Rose that is a great comparison but at least Nicole's family got her back to bury.
Ruzzty I am so sorry about your weather and leaks. We have 2 other posters going through this. What a mess. I never heard of a hurricane going back and forth like that. Rose maybe it will help find Caylee too. IMO

Sara,

You may be right. I hadn't thought about that. But the rain and such may bring Caylee back to us. Good thinking! :beer:

[FDInLaw]

About having a 'friend' become an accessory - that will not happen. She doesn't have any friends willing to risk their lives for her - they all know she's a selfish lying thief. Now even IF she DID have a friend willing to do that for her, there would be no way to communicate that to anyone without being found out. She will be under a microscope as long as she is out of jail, until Caylee is found.

The root of the problem with OJ's case was bad detective work and a sloppy prosecution. LE in THIS case are making sure that doesn't happen here. Sounds like you have a lot of confidence in LE. . . could you share more about why??? :shrug:

[rosejustrose]

Sounds like you have a lot of confidence in LE. . . could you share more about why??? :shrug:

You know what I've been wondering? Where's Odette? She always updates threads/forums with links. She's been missing from here. IMO, I'd love to have her back.

Odette, hope all is well :rose:

[dan_uk]

on the record should be good tonight

[lighthousedazy]

I agree with this totally Ruzzty and I have been fearing it all along. Rose that is a great comparison but at least Nicole's family got her back to bury.
Ruzzty I am so sorry about your weather and leaks. We have 2 other posters going through this. What a mess. I never heard of a hurricane going back and forth like that. Rose maybe it will help find Caylee too. IMO

Sara,

You may be right. I hadn't thought about that. But the rain and such may bring Caylee back to us. Good thinking! :beer:
Heavy rain and flood water can play havoc on the landscape as this incident in Central Ga in 1994.
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"Then in July 1994, after tropical storm Alberto dumped rain across Georgia, the Ocmulgee crested first in Macon and then in Hawkinsville, where it reached a record 41.9 feet, almost seventeen feet above flood stage. Thanks to advance warnings and quick preparations, the flood claimed no lives. However, travel east from Hawkinsville came to a halt, caskets in the city's Orange Hill Cemetery emerged from the ground, and thirty homes were flooded."

http://www.newgeorgiaencyclopedia.org/nge/Article.jsp?id=h-2253

[One2Snoop]

You know what I've been wondering? Where's Odette? She always updates threads/forums with links. She's been missing from here. IMO, I'd love to have her back.

Odette, hope all is well :rose:

She's on holiday for a few weeks.

[SaraSidle]

This link appears to have all the updates on Caylee...

http://www.wftv.com/news/17253396/detail.html?rss=orlc&psp=news

Casey Anthony Released; Bounty Hunter Says Caylee "Is Alive"
POSTED: 10:20 am EDT August 21, 2008
UPDATED: 5:33 pm EDT August 21, 2008
ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. -- The mother of missing 3-year-old Caylee Anthony was out of jail Thursday, but she wouldn't answer Eyewitness News' questions about her little girl. Casey was released from jail on $500,000 bail Thursday and returned to her parents' home, where authorities will monitor her with an electronic ankle device.

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link above

thanks for the link One2Snoop. rose the CSI guy on Nancy Grace says Fay could destroy evidence and after reading Lighthousedazy's post (ty Light) I think it could go either way. Probably make it worse. We can only hope. I heard there is a group coming down this weekend to search with dogs. IMO

[soccermom]

UGH watching NG right now 10:00PM ESTand watching her getting out of jail grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

and they have security for her---damn straight if i was there i would of slapped her. I bet she is loving this attention.

so now we sit back and wait and see if she does say anything---and wait for DNA results ughhhh so frustrating

[soccermom]

I might have jsut came out and asked here "Where is Caylle's body" as my gut tells me she in no longer with us. Be it by accident or not, I do not think Caylee is alive.

I agree :(:(

[FDInLaw]

You know what I've been wondering? Where's Odette? She always updates threads/forums with links. She's been missing from here. IMO, I'd love to have her back.

Odette, hope all is well :rose:

She's on holiday for a few weeks.Missing me some Odette too! :hat:

Thanks for the links O2S! :seeya:

[lighthousedazy]

thanks for the link One2Snoop. rose the CSI guy on Nancy Grace says Fay could destroy evidence and after reading Lighthousedazy's post (ty Light) I think it could go either way. Probably make it worse. We can only hope. I heard there is a group coming down this weekend to search with dogs. IMO
You're welcome Sara. I don't know the terrain in Fl., but IIRC, this was a numerous amount of coffins that had concrete slabs on top, so I could imagine what could happen if a body were just covered with dirt. I hate to be so morbid, and I do hope Caylee is alive, but I just don't think so. jmo

[dcrc]

UGH watching NG right now 10:00PM ESTand watching her getting out of jail grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

and they have security for her---damn straight if i was there i would of slapped her. I bet she is loving this attention.

so now we sit back and wait and see if she does say anything---and wait for DNA results ughhhh so frustrating

She'll say something but as in the past with her it will be more of her lies. And I'm with you, I would like to slap her face until her eyes flipped backward.:flamemad:

[One2Snoop]

August 18, 2008
Casey Anthony's Top Ten Alleged Lies

Alleged Lie #1 - On or around June 9, Casey told her parents that she had arranged for Zenaida Fernandez-Gonzalez to babysit Caylee so she could go on a business trip as a requirement of her employment with Universal Studios. She later changed her story and stated that she was going on a short vacation with friends. Meanwhile, Casey told her friends that Caylee had gone on a vacation with her babysitter.

Alleged Lie #2 - Casey offered a variety of explanations with regard to Caylee's whereabouts until July 15 when she claimed that her daughter had been abducted by her babysitter approximately 31 days prior to that date.

Alleged Lie #3 - Casey told investigators that she had not seen Caylee since June 9 when she dropped her off with her babysitter. However, when they went to the apartment complex in which Fernandez-Gonzalez reportedly lived, investigators discovered that the apartment had been vacant for several months.

Alleged Lie #4 - Casey told investigators that Fernandez-Gonzalez had also lived at a complex on North Hillside Drive. However, when they went to the location, they discovered that it was a senior living facility.

Alleged Lie #5 - Casey told Investigators that Fernandez-Gonzalez's mother lived in The Crossings at Conway, a community in Orlando. However, when they went to the community, they were unable to find anyone who knew an individual with the last name Fernandez-Gonzalez.

Alleged Lie #6 - Casey gave investigators the name of a woman who she said was a roommate of Fernandez-Gonzalez. Casey reported that the woman worked as a waitress at T.G.I. Friday’s. However, when they spoke with the manager of the restaurant, they learned that no such person had been employed there.

Alleged Lie #7 - Casey told investigators that she worked at Universal Studios. However, the company had no record of her employment. When investigators took Casey to Universal Studios so that she could show them where she worked, she finally admitted that she was not an employee of the company.

Alleged Lie #8 - Casey told investigators that she had received a call from Caylee on July 15. However, when they subpoenaed her telephone records, they found no evidence to support her claim.

Alleged Lie #9 - Casey told investigators that two people, both employees of Kodak, were aware of Caylee's disappearance. When they contacted the company, they learned that no such individuals were employed by Kodak.

Alleged Lie #10 - Casey told her family that Caylee would be home for her third birthday on August 9.

http://blogs.discovery.com/criminal_report/2008/08/casey-anthonys.html

[One2Snoop]

Investigation Discovery's Full Coverage of the Casey Anthony Case

Get all the latest news and info in the case of Casey Anthony and her missing 2-year-old daughter, Caylee.

http://investigation.discovery.com/blogs/criminal-report/casey_anthony_full_coverage/caylee_anthony.html

[SaraSidle]

You're welcome Sara. I don't know the terrain in Fl., but IIRC, this was a numerous amount of coffins that had concrete slabs on top, so I could imagine what could happen if a body were just covered with dirt. I hate to be so morbid, and I do hope Caylee is alive, but I just don't think so. jmo

From what I understand Lighthousedazy most of Orlando was built on a swamp so we have ponds creeks rivers,brush trees. and so forth. IMO

[One2Snoop]

ATTORNEY SPEAKS:Jose Baez Makes Statement After Release
http://www.wftv.com/video/17264104/index.html

BOUNTY HUNTER TALKS: Padilla Confident They'll Find Caylee
http://www.wftv.com/video/17264089/index.html

If the links above don't work you can access the videos here -
http://www.wftv.com/news/17253396/detail.html?rss=orlc&psp=news

[SaraSidle]

ATTORNEY SPEAKS:Jose Baez Makes Statement After Release
http://www.wftv.com/video/17264104/index.html

BOUNTY HUNTER TALKS: Padilla Confident They'll Find Caylee
http://www.wftv.com/video/17264089/index.html

If the links above don't work you can access the videos here -
http://www.wftv.com/news/17253396/detail.html?rss=orlc&psp=news

This is so bad. the good thing is there are video cameras in the house going out to the bounty RV. i think so suicide is not an option even though I do not think she would. IMO

[dan_uk]

best joke ive heard all year so far

casey says "I'm innocent" :D

[SaraSidle]

best joke ive heard all year so far

casey says "I'm innocent" :D

second best grandpa says Caylee has been kidnapped and he is watching them. no wait they are watching him. no wait... I cannot keep up. IMO

[Brainstorm]

Sounds like you have a lot of confidence in LE. . . could you share more about why??? :shrug:

Bumping for joe.....can you share more??

best joke ive heard all year so far

casey says "I'm innocent" :D

second best grandpa says Caylee has been kidnapped and he is watching them. no wait they are watching him. no wait... I cannot keep up. IMO


A BAD JOKE,imo and innocent is NOT a word that relates to Casey,IMOO. No way,shape,form or even backwards,is that girl INNOCENT !!!!

Now, her CHILD is innocent.A gift from God.And what has she done with her?And why wont she tell?(Its evil, imo)

[Brainstorm]

Shame on you, casey !!!!!!!!!!

[SaraSidle]

Shame on you, casey !!!!!!!!!!

You are so right Brainstorm. I should have used my sarcasm smiley. I am just so tired of these lies,shenanigans and circus. Geeorge,Cindy and Casey need to get it together and find Caylee. I am to a point where I do not want to even hear it on TV. very depressing. IMO

[Brainstorm]

You are so right Brainstorm. I should have used my sarcasm smiley. I am just so tired of these lies,shenanigans and circus. Geeorge,Cindy and Casey need to get it together and find Caylee. I am to a point where I do not want to even hear it on TV. very depressing. IMO


Somebody needs to get in her face, IMO......She hasnt had the fear of God put in her, yet, imo.

[SaraSidle]

Somebody needs to get in her face, IMO......She hasnt had the fear of God put in her, yet, imo.

Brainstorm I am so afraid that it aint gonna happen. you have no idea how afraid I am of that. She may just get away with it.:flamemad:

[dcrc]

Bumping for joe.....can you share more??






A BAD JOKE,imo and innocent is NOT a word that relates to Casey,IMOO. No way,shape,form or even backwards,is that girl INNOCENT !!!!

Now, her CHILD is innocent.A gift from God.And what has she done with her?And why wont she tell?(Its evil, imo)

I remember Scott Peterson mother saying the same thing about him and how she wished should could have had ten more like Scott.

I heard on Greta tonight that Casey stole money from one of her grandparents in the nursing home then lied saying she needed it for her job at Universal. Also, she was seven months pregnant and telling Cindy that she wasn't pregnant and Cindy believed her. So I guess for the first seven months of her pregnancy this gal didn't even see a doctor. Cindy must be one very stupid woman or she is blind to anything her daughter does wrong.

[rosejustrose]

You are so right Brainstorm. I should have used my sarcasm smiley. I am just so tired of these lies,shenanigans and circus. Geeorge,Cindy and Casey need to get it together and find Caylee. I am to a point where I do not want to even hear it on TV. very depressing. IMO

Somebody needs to get in her face, IMO......She hasnt had the fear of God put in her, yet, imo.

Good morning all! Sara, what happened to Lee? He's been very quiet of late. I did notice he was very uncomfortable talking with Padilla and then nothing, he's nowhere to be found. IMO, he knows Casey hurt Caylee and he's keeping his distance.

Brainstorm, I wonder if Casey has an inkling of God at all. She seems an empty shell of a person.

MOO

[rosejustrose]

I remember Scott Peterson mother saying the same thing about him and how she wished should could have had ten more like Scott.

I heard on Greta tonight that Casey stole money from one of her grandparents in the nursing home then lied saying she needed it for her job at Universal. Also, she was seven months pregnant and telling Cindy that she wasn't pregnant and Cindy believed her. So I guess for the first seven months of her pregnancy this gal didn't even see a doctor. Cindy must be one very stupid woman or she is blind to anything her daughter does wrong.


:seeya:Hi dcrc. Wow, that is beyond bizarre. Casey is a very small woman. How can her mother not know she was pregnant? But this information is very interesting. For 7 months Casey denied she was pregnant, denying Caylee even existed in the womb. No wonder she has no regard for the child. Stealing, lying, denying and all the drama Casey causes makes me believe that she has been seriously, mentally disturbed for most of her life. IMO, her parents, the caretakers and enablers, are just as responsible for whatever happened to Caylee as Casey. They willingly took on the caregiver roles. IMO, they should have taken it one step further and gotten a court order to have legal custody of Caylee. IMO, they knew Casey was emotionally unable to care for a child and was capable of hurting her. JMHO.

[INGASON14]

:seeya:Hi dcrc. Wow, that is beyond bizarre. Casey is a very small woman. How can her mother not know she was pregnant? But this information is very interesting. For 7 months Casey denied she was pregnant, denying Caylee even existed in the womb. No wonder she has no regard for the child. Stealing, lying, denying and all the drama Casey causes makes me believe that she has been seriously, mentally disturbed for most of her life. IMO, her parents, the caretakers and enablers, are just as responsible for whatever happened to Caylee as Casey. They willingly took on the caregiver roles. IMO, they should have taken it one step further and gotten a court order to have legal custody of Caylee. IMO, they knew Casey was emotionally unable to care for a child and was capable of hurting her. JMHO.

Excellent post Rose. In a way I am in the same boat about taking a child away from my child but she has done nothing yet to cause me to persue it. My daughter was born with the umbicol cord wrapped around her throat depriving her brain of oxygen. I tried to raise her as normal as possible. She had the same rules and consequences as the rest of my kids. We were aware of her limitations but gave her a normal life. She has never harmed her baby but there are some things that make me saw OMG. We are trying to work with her to make her a better parent so hopefully I will not have to persue custody. I have two daughters. One lives with me and the other is out on her own and she is the one I will worry about.

[SaraSidle]

Good morning all! Sara, what happened to Lee? He's been very quiet of late. I did notice he was very uncomfortable talking with Padilla and then nothing, he's nowhere to be found. IMO, he knows Casey hurt Caylee and he's keeping his distance.

Brainstorm, I wonder if Casey has an inkling of God at all. She seems an empty shell of a person.

MOO

Lee has been there in the background. Remember when he and Cindy were on the driveway threatening to spray the hose on the media when Casey came home? IMO

[dcrc]

:seeya:Hi dcrc. Wow, that is beyond bizarre. Casey is a very small woman. How can her mother not know she was pregnant? But this information is very interesting. For 7 months Casey denied she was pregnant, denying Caylee even existed in the womb. No wonder she has no regard for the child. Stealing, lying, denying and all the drama Casey causes makes me believe that she has been seriously, mentally disturbed for most of her life. IMO, her parents, the caretakers and enablers, are just as responsible for whatever happened to Caylee as Casey. They willingly took on the caregiver roles. IMO, they should have taken it one step further and gotten a court order to have legal custody of Caylee. IMO, they knew Casey was emotionally unable to care for a child and was capable of hurting her. JMHO.

Good afternoon all. I agree with you Rose.

Before Greta gave this information on her show last night, a close friend of the Anthonys' wrote on a Greta message board much information about the Anthonys'. The person said that Casey was definitely showing her pregnancy at seven months and that her belly button was protruding. Casey keep telling Cindy she wasn't pregnant that she had gained weight. Family was finally able to convince Cindy to take Casey to the doctor and two months later little Caylee was born.
This friend of the Anthonys' said that Casey had been showing signs of mental illness for a long time. The person wrote that Casey had always been Cindy's little princess and could do no wrong. However, just before Casey left home with Caylee, Cindy was seeing a counselor who suggested to her to kick Casey out of their home and for Cindy to try and gain custody of Caylee.
It was right after this that Casey left home and no one has seen Caylee.


Also, from what was said on the Greta show last night, the stealing has got so bad with Casey that Cindy has to go into her 401k to bail her daughter out of trouble.

Many red flags should have been raised with Cindy and George that their daughter has very serious problems and needed mental help.

[dan_uk]

if cindy was going for custody casey could of thought if im not having caylee then no one else is having her

[minga]

:seeya:Hi dcrc. Wow, that is beyond bizarre. Casey is a very small woman. How can her mother not know she was pregnant?

"Uh, because she's stupid? :shrug:



But this information is very interesting. For 7 months Casey denied she was pregnant, denying Caylee even existed in the womb. No wonder she has no regard for the child. Stealing, lying, denying and all the drama Casey causes makes me believe that she has been seriously, mentally disturbed for most of her life.


I think Casey probably had a personality early on that was controlling and the parents fell into the trap and Casey took the reins. She has no respect for them because they never took control. IMO of course. She couldn't have turned out any other way without parents being parents instead of the child's lackey. You CAN NOT be your child's friend, you have to be their parent first. I don't think they did that. If that's the way it occurred her behavior would escalate into personality disorders of great magnitude. I don't think she's mentally ill as much as a cold, hard, b i t c h with no regard for anyone or anything except her self. Least of all that thing she carried for nine months that was apparently a burdern. Again IMO. Poor baby never had a chance with that combination.




IMO, her parents, the caretakers and enablers, are just as responsible for whatever happened to Caylee as Casey. They willingly took on the caregiver roles.


I don't think they are smart enough to know they are stupid. Enablers don't recognize their behavior. They shake their heads and wonder why this is happening. IMO


IMO, they should have taken it one step further and gotten a court order to have legal custody of Caylee. IMO, they knew Casey was emotionally unable to care for a child and was capable of hurting her. JMHO.

I basically agree with you, except I don't think they ever had any idea Casey is so disturbed. And such a monster. They probably saw it as normal without knowing they are the predominant reason she is the way she is. Lack of parenting and no control and probably no discipline, if they ever tried I'm sure she just laughed in their faces and continued to control them. I think they are incredibly stupid people that raised a subhuman person and now they have a choice to wise up or continue to play the game. And I do think it's a game to Casey.

[lighthousedazy]

I basically agree with you, except I don't think they ever had any idea Casey is so disturbed. And such a monster. They probably saw it as normal without knowing they are the predominant reason she is the way she is. Lack of parenting and no control and probably no discipline, if they ever tried I'm sure she just laughed in their faces and continued to control them. I think they are incredibly stupid people that raised a subhuman person and now they have a choice to wise up or continue to play the game. And I do think it's a game to Casey.

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Originally Posted by rosejustrose
Hi dcrc. Wow, that is beyond bizarre. Casey is a very small woman. How can her mother not know she was pregnant?

"Uh, because she's stupid?



But this information is very interesting. For 7 months Casey denied she was pregnant, denying Caylee even existed in the womb. No wonder she has no regard for the child. Stealing, lying, denying and all the drama Casey causes makes me believe that she has been seriously, mentally disturbed for most of her life.


I think Casey probably had a personality early on that was controlling and the parents fell into the trap and Casey took the reins. She has no respect for them because they never took control. IMO of course. She couldn't have turned out any other way without parents being parents instead of the child's lackey. You CAN NOT be your child's friend, you have to be their parent first. I don't think they did that. If that's the way it occurred her behavior would escalate into personality disorders of great magnitude. I don't think she's mentally ill as much as a cold, hard, b i t c h with no regard for anyone or anything except her self. Least of all that thing she carried for nine months that was apparently a burdern. Again IMO. Poor baby never had a chance with that combination.




IMO, her parents, the caretakers and enablers, are just as responsible for whatever happened to Caylee as Casey. They willingly took on the caregiver roles.


I don't think they are smart enough to know they are stupid. Enablers don't recognize their behavior. They shake their heads and wonder why this is happening. IMO


IMO, they should have taken it one step further and gotten a court order to have legal custody of Caylee. IMO, they knew Casey was emotionally unable to care for a child and was capable of hurting her. JMHO. "
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Minga,this is an excellent post and I think you have hit the nail on the head. jmo

[rosejustrose]

I basically agree with you, except I don't think they ever had any idea Casey is so disturbed. And such a monster. They probably saw it as normal without knowing they are the predominant reason she is the way she is. Lack of parenting and no control and probably no discipline, if they ever tried I'm sure she just laughed in their faces and continued to control them. I think they are incredibly stupid people that raised a subhuman person and now they have a choice to wise up or continue to play the game. And I do think it's a game to Casey.

Minga,

LOL, but in a sad funny way. I was trying to be kind. I didn't want to come right out and say what I thought. Yes, her parents are stupid, they are so dumb it's beyond reason. To think that these two morons let her back in their home after she murdered their granddaughter is beyond reason. And you're right, enablers don't even realize they're doing it. But these two, Cindy and George, are just embarassing they're so dumb. JMHO.

[lighthousedazy]

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Quote from One2snoop:
"Casey's Next Chance To Leave: Church On Sunday

POSTED: 10:20 am EDT August 21, 2008
UPDATED: 5:29 pm EDT August 23, 2008


ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. -- Casey Anthony, the mother of missing 3-year-old Caylee, has a chance to leave her house Sunday to attend church services."

No disrepect to anyone, but this will probably be the first time she has been inside a church in years if ever. This is my opinion, but a very strong opinion: I hope the scum b**** does not get away with murder. :mad:

[One2Snoop]

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Quote from One2snoop:
"Casey's Next Chance To Leave: Church On Sunday

POSTED: 10:20 am EDT August 21, 2008
UPDATED: 5:29 pm EDT August 23, 2008


ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. -- Casey Anthony, the mother of missing 3-year-old Caylee, has a chance to leave her house Sunday to attend church services."

No disrepect to anyone, but this will probably be the first time she has been inside a church in years if ever. This is my opinion, but a very strong opinion: I hope the scum b**** does not get away with murder. :mad:

ITA lighthouse. Maybe she'll confess while there?

[soccermom]

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Quote from One2snoop:
"Casey's Next Chance To Leave: Church On Sunday

POSTED: 10:20 am EDT August 21, 2008
UPDATED: 5:29 pm EDT August 23, 2008


ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. -- Casey Anthony, the mother of missing 3-year-old Caylee, has a chance to leave her house Sunday to attend church services."


To pray for forgiveness and for lying? this makes me sick---where is Caylee???
This is so sad!!!

Thank you everyone for the links and updates

[rosejustrose]

One2Snoop is as good as Odette when it comes to links. We owe them both a world of thanks! :rose:

OK, I have a question. What happens next? Caylee is not going to be found with Casey's help, we all know that. So what happens to Casey? Is she going to be allowed out or are they going to pursue those felony charges and send her butt to jail for 6 years? She's obviously not helping fing Caylee. TS Fay aside, it's over, help find your child or not, no more meat lover's pizza, where is Caylee? I say they jail her on the charges they can. She's living evil, IMO.

[rosejustrose]

To pray for forgiveness and for lying? this makes me sick---where is Caylee???
This is so sad!!!

Thank you everyone for the links and updates


I'm a believer. God knows better and I would bet he'd get pretty pissed at being used like I believe Casey is using this "church" visit. She's toast, it's just a matter of time. Why won't she tell the truth about Caylee? How evil is she? JMO

[dcrc]

One2Snoop is as good as Odette when it comes to links. We owe them both a world of thanks! :rose:

OK, I have a question. What happens next? Caylee is not going to be found with Casey's help, we all know that. So what happens to Casey? Is she going to be allowed out or are they going to pursue those felony charges and send her butt to jail for 6 years? She's obviously not helping fing Caylee. TS Fay aside, it's over, help find your child or not, no more meat lover's pizza, where is Caylee? I say they jail her on the charges they can. She's living evil, IMO.

I guess what happens next will depend on what the forensic evidence taken from the car, backyard and shovel reveals. My opinion, the police has received some of the forensics but not all. Since I don't believe little Caylee will ever be found, the prosecution is going to build a airtight case against Casey if they hope to get a conviction. She's not going anywhere, so they need to take the time and make damn sure that this b/i/t/c/h goes down and is put away for a long time.

[lighthousedazy]

I guess what happens next will depend on what the forensic evidence taken from the car, backyard and shovel reveals. My opinion, the police has received some of the forensics but not all. Since I don't believe little Caylee will ever be found, the prosecution is going to build a airtight case against Casey if they hope to get a conviction. She's not going anywhere, so they need to take the time and make damn sure that this b/i/t/c/h goes down and is put away for a long time.Did anyone watch Geraldo on Fox tonight? The spokesman from the Sheriffs Dept. said that they did not have the forensics to show otherwise (kidnapping) that she is dead. This is very confusing. I do hope and pray that this case is solved. jmo

[SaraSidle]

I guess what happens next will depend on what the forensic evidence taken from the car, backyard and shovel reveals. My opinion, the police has received some of the forensics but not all. Since I don't believe little Caylee will ever be found, the prosecution is going to build a airtight case against Casey if they hope to get a conviction. She's not going anywhere, so they need to take the time and make damn sure that this b/i/t/c/h goes down and is put away for a long time.

I totally agree dcrc. Now I am just waiting for little Caylee to be found or the DNA. And I have a feeling I will be waiting for a long long time. IMO

[sharlock]

Originally Posted by rosejustrose http://boards.crimelibrary.com/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://boards.crimelibrary.com/showthread.php?p=9118705#post9118705)
:seeya:Hi dcrc. Wow, that is beyond bizarre. Casey is a very small woman. How can her mother not know she was pregnant? But this information is very interesting. For 7 months Casey denied she was pregnant, denying Caylee even existed in the womb. No wonder she has no regard for the child. Stealing, lying, denying and all the drama Casey causes makes me believe that she has been seriously, mentally disturbed for most of her life. IMO, her parents, the caretakers and enablers, are just as responsible for whatever happened to Caylee as Casey. They willingly took on the caregiver roles. IMO, they should have taken it one step further and gotten a court order to have legal custody of Caylee. IMO, they knew Casey was emotionally unable to care for a child and was capable of hurting her. JMHO.

I dislike the way Casey's parents are being condemned. Just because someone is a compulsive liar does not mean that they couldn't raise their child and is certainly not a reason that a court would hand over custody. In fact in situations like these the family is often in a very difficult place because a family member like Casey often presents their best front to strangers even to the point of convincing people that their only problem is their horrible family. They would understand that upsetting Casey would only end in trouble for them and they would gain nothing except what ended up happening. Casey took the one thing she had to take... her daughter. In a case like this you don't provoke the person because the need to try and keep the child close is greater. Even after all this has happened I think the family realises that they need to try and convince Casey they are there for her (and in a way they are because they still love her) in order to try and find out what has happened to Caylee and public opinion on how horrible the family are for taking her back in seems ridiculous to me. What else can they do if they want to find Caylee? Not forgetting that losing a child is one of the hardest things anyone will ever go through and these grandparents are only human to try and deny that this little girl might be dead and hope she may still be alive; and any bit of hope even the farfetched one that Casey is telling the truth has to be more palatable then the alternative! How can anyone judge this family so harshly? There is no evidence that they were involved in hurting Caylee, they set the wheels in motion to try and find her and God knows how much longer it would have taken Casey to fess up. Casey was an adult who left home, even if they didn't like it they were in no position to stop her or to take her child so this all being said in hind sight seems pointless and rather cruel to me. None of us are perfect parents the best we can do is to love our children and do the best we know how. I think people should not sit in judgement of these grandparents.

[TruLover]

Very well said. I don't judge Casey's parents, because as a parent myself, I know we all make mistakes. And from some of the pictures we've seen of the two, plus statements from friends and family, Casey appeared to love Caylee... so if I were in her parents' place, I would hang on to all the hope I could find to believe Caylee is alive and well. At the same time, I would not turn against my son or daughter... I would not like what they did or how they acted... but I would continue to love them, no matter what.

As for Cindy and George not knowing Casey was pregnant... how many times have we seen news items about girls giving birth in the restroom at school, or some other place, and the parents never knew their daughters were pregnant? I read on another board just yesterday, a nurse who used to work in OB/GYN at the hospital said that she personally knew of several cases where the family does not know until the girl goes into labor and they take her to E.R. thinking she has a stomach virus.
I do think Cindy being an R.N. should have known or suspected... and if that were my mother she would have made it her business to find out... but everyone is different. Some people just don't pay that much attention.

[SaraSidle]

I guess she's not ready to confess yet. :chicken:

Casey's Chance To Leave Home, Decides Not To Attend Church

POSTED: 10:20 am EDT August 21, 2008
UPDATED: 10:12 am EDT August 24, 2008


ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. -- Casey Anthony, the mother of missing 3-year-old Caylee, did not attend church on Sunday morning as planned, even though it was a chance to leave her home.

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http://www.wftv.com/news/17253396/detail.html?rss=orlc&psp=news

I bet she is afraid to go out in public. Those hordes of people at her release probably scared her. Would scare me. She is going to get stir crazy imo

[minga]

I bet she is afraid to go out in public. Those hordes of people at her release probably scared her. Would scare me. She is going to get stir crazy imo


I'm afraid that's the best we can hope for. Because now that she's out Caylee should be found. That was the point right?

I certainly hope the parents are have enough sense to know she's a liar and has done something terrible. I hope they are trying to get the truth but somehow I doubt it. I think they are total idiots. I'll be glad to back up on this if it turns out I'm wrong and I'll admit it, but I don't think so.

I think she's going to start her rage and shenanigans again. I wonder how long she can keep this up. Hopefully she'll lose control and in a fit of anger and rage she'll tell them what she did.

I would say I think the parents would crack if she did, but they are strange people and I don't think even they are right in the head. I'm not sure I trust them either. JMO

[SaraSidle]

I'm afraid that's the best we can hope for. Because now that she's out Caylee should be found. That was the point right?

I certainly hope the parents are have enough sense to know she's a liar and has done something terrible. I hope they are trying to get the truth but somehow I doubt it. I think they are total idiots. I'll be glad to back up on this if it turns out I'm wrong and I'll admit it, but I don't think so.

I think she's going to start her rage and shenanigans again. I wonder how long she can keep this up. Hopefully she'll lose control and in a fit of anger and rage she'll tell them what she did.

I would say I think the parents would crack if she did, but they are strange people and I don't think even they are right in the head. I'm not sure I trust them either. JMO

ITA Minga. I also would sure like to know what she and Jose talked about for 7 hours last Friday!!!!! IMO

[Woostock]

Her attorney has told her not to "talk" yet the bondsmen claim they can get to the bottom of the situation by talking to Casey. This case is so convoluted one doesn't know heads from tails...Maybe Casey is dumb like a fox..she waited so long to admit Caylee was not with her that she may never be found and therefore Casey would have jail time for only 5 yrs or so.

[CindyB]

I don't believe in torture, but sometimes I wish LE could take Casey Anthony and threaten her with horrible, painful things that would make her tell the truth about where Caylee is. Somehow she needs to be MADE to start tellling the truth.

I don't know what to think of the parents/grandparents anymore? I can see not wanting to believe your child could do something awful to her own child. But I'm starting to think they are as crazy as Casey is??

[rosejustrose]

I dislike the way Casey's parents are being condemned. Just because someone is a compulsive liar does not mean that they couldn't raise their child and is certainly not a reason that a court would hand over custody. In fact in situations like these the family is often in a very difficult place because a family member like Casey often presents their best front to strangers even to the point of convincing people that their only problem is their horrible family. They would understand that upsetting Casey would only end in trouble for them and they would gain nothing except what ended up happening. Casey took the one thing she had to take... her daughter. In a case like this you don't provoke the person because the need to try and keep the child close is greater. Even after all this has happened I think the family realises that they need to try and convince Casey they are there for her (and in a way they are because they still love her) in order to try and find out what has happened to Caylee and public opinion on how horrible the family are for taking her back in seems ridiculous to me. What else can they do if they want to find Caylee? Not forgetting that losing a child is one of the hardest things anyone will ever go through and these grandparents are only human to try and deny that this little girl might be dead and hope she may still be alive; and any bit of hope even the farfetched one that Casey is telling the truth has to be more palatable then the alternative! How can anyone judge this family so harshly? There is no evidence that they were involved in hurting Caylee, they set the wheels in motion to try and find her and God knows how much longer it would have taken Casey to fess up. Casey was an adult who left home, even if they didn't like it they were in no position to stop her or to take her child so this all being said in hind sight seems pointless and rather cruel to me. None of us are perfect parents the best we can do is to love our children and do the best we know how. I think people should not sit in judgement of these grandparents.

I think I would almost agree with you but I don't understand a lot of your post. The Anthony's shouldn't be blamed for Caseys' behaviour. However, they interjected themselves into this case and therfore made themselves a parts of it. They took over the guardianship role for both Casey and Caylee, they were out there and in front of all the media cameras. They took on a role and they will be judged for it. I'm sorry if I offended you. But I believe that in this case the parents need to be judged because of thier own behaviour, if nothing else. JMHO.

[rosejustrose]

I'm afraid that's the best we can hope for. Because now that she's out Caylee should be found. That was the point right?

I certainly hope the parents are have enough sense to know she's a liar and has done something terrible. I hope they are trying to get the truth but somehow I doubt it. I think they are total idiots. I'll be glad to back up on this if it turns out I'm wrong and I'll admit it, but I don't think so.

I think she's going to start her rage and shenanigans again. I wonder how long she can keep this up. Hopefully she'll lose control and in a fit of anger and rage she'll tell them what she did.

I would say I think the parents would crack if she did, but they are strange people and I don't think even they are right in the head. I'm not sure I trust them either. JMO

ITA Minga. I also would sure like to know what she and Jose talked about for 7 hours last Friday!!!!! IMO

Short of upsetting some folks, and guess I have. I'm sick and tired of this game. ITA with both of you. Her parents are the key here. It's time to tell the truth. Where is Caylee and Casey, what have you done with her? This is the most strange family I have ever encountered. They are weird beyond belief. I know Sharlock will be upset that I'm not treating Casey's family well, oh well, I think these people know more than they are letting on and I think they are the key to beating Casey down. Actually, I think they feel a little guilty because they let this whole thing happen. JMHO.

[Woostock]

You make a lot of sense. There's no way the parents are totally blameless. For one thing, their daughter has lied from an early age. For the most part, children who lie at a young age can usually be "cured" One needs to be vigilant and constantly insist that truth be told. It is a lot of work but it can be done. My best guess is they may have taken the path of least resistance because the "Caseys" of the world are hard to deal with and wear you down. She (Casey) not only lies, but apparently steals money and can be rageful. It's not an easy task by any means to raise a "Casey" but it sure beats having your grandchild missing with the possibility that your daughter caused her harm.

[rosejustrose]

You make a lot of sense. There's no way the parents are totally blameless. For one thing, their daughter has lied from an early age. For the most part, children who lie at a young age can usually be "cured" One needs to be vigilant and constantly insist that truth be told. It is a lot of work but it can be done. My best guess is they may have taken the path of least resistance because the "Caseys" of the world are hard to deal with and wear you down. She (Casey) not only lies, but apparently steals money and can be rageful. It's not an easy task by any means to raise a "Casey" but it sure beats having your grandchild missing with the possibility that your daughter caused her harm.

Welcome Woodstock! It's good to have you here.

I agree with you. It was easier for the Anthonys to let Casey live the life she created for herself. The world of lies. My God, the girl didn't even acknowledge she was pregnant until the baby was coming. The Anthony's are not stupid people, they had to know. So yes. I blame them, too, for what ever happened to little Caylee. They knew what Casey was and they let her have access to Caylee, so yes, they are to blame. MHO.

[minga]

ITA Minga. I also would sure like to know what she and Jose talked about for 7 hours last Friday!!!!! IMO

I'm glad you could understand my post. That's what you get when you don't proofread after changing the way you are trying to say something. :o

And yes, 7 hours? I thought she could and would tell them when she got out. Everyone is tripping over everyone. I wonder if anyone knows what they are doing except Casey. This is about the craziest thing I've ever seen. Is everyone kissing her ass or are they just playing her game? I'm so confused with this.

I'm hoping they are just waiting for her to hang herself as well as making absolutely certain the DNA tells enough of the story to put her away for a very long time or worse.

[crowamongdoves]

According to a poster on one of the other message boards who's from the same area as Casey said that she signed into her myspace page friday around noon hour so apparently she was using a computer while at her lawyer's office.

[joekuhl79]

Sounds like you have a lot of confidence in LE. . . could you share more about why??? :shrug:


It's just that they know what we know (and then some) and they don't want to drop the ball on this. That's why they're holding back the DNA results, the jail videos, cell records...they don't want Casey to know what they have or where they're at with it. I think they're just waiting for that ONE thing before they really drop a piano on her...

[SaraSidle]

Florida Mother Does Not Attend Vigil For Missing Daughter

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=7279982&version=1&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=3.3.1

First I do not blame her for not going out in public. I would not either.
Second read the link. Does Cindy say "casey and I are calm because we know there is nothing we can do about it. It is in God's hands"? something like that. that is a very scarey statement IMO


I believe everyone is waiting for her to break and they are playing nice. IMO

[Ruzzty]

So, after Tropical storm fay left, I decided to take another bike ride.

Saturday August 23, 2008 I rode down Heitzelman Blvd and brought my camera. Recall the news of LE getting pings on the SE end of Orlando International Airport? Well, I rode out there and I took pictures. I added them to my other photos and renamed them with numbers. Basically, 1 is closet to my home... and the rest extend out as I rode. I wrote a summary under each photo to give you a perspective of the location and direction. I found it very interesting that I saw NO Law Enforcement/searchers out there... Many of the fields were turned into lakes. The SE Corner I did notice some tire tracks that had to have been made after the storm (photo 16.5).

http://s520.photobucket.com/albums/w327/caylee08_photo/

[One2Snoop]

So, after Tropical storm fay left, I decided to take another bike ride.

Saturday August 23, 2008 I rode down Heitzelman Blvd and brought my camera. Recall the news of LE getting pings on the SE end of Orlando International Airport? Well, I rode out there and I took pictures. I added them to my other photos and renamed them with numbers. Basically, 1 is closet to my home... and the rest extend out as I rode. I wrote a summary under each photo to give you a perspective of the location and direction. I found it very interesting that I saw NO Law Enforcement/searchers out there... Many of the fields were turned into lakes. The SE Corner I did notice some tire tracks that had to have been made after the storm (photo 16.5).

http://s520.photobucket.com/albums/w327/caylee08_photo/

:seeya: This is really helpful for those of us who don't live in the area. Thanks for doing this Ruzzty! We really appreciate it. :patriot:

[dan_uk]

According to a poster on one of the other message boards who's from the same area as Casey said that she signed into her myspace page friday around noon hour so apparently she was using a computer while at her lawyer's office.her brother was doing updates on there so it could of been him signing in to it

[dan_uk]

First I do not blame her for not going out in public. I would not either.
Second read the link. Does Cindy say "casey and I are calm because we know there is nothing we can do about it. It is in God's hands"? something like that. that is a very scarey statement IMO


I believe everyone is waiting for her to break and they are playing nice. IMOdid you read about the band that turned up on a truck

[dan_uk]

So, after Tropical storm fay left, I decided to take another bike ride.

Saturday August 23, 2008 I rode down Heitzelman Blvd and brought my camera. Recall the news of LE getting pings on the SE end of Orlando International Airport? Well, I rode out there and I took pictures. I added them to my other photos and renamed them with numbers. Basically, 1 is closet to my home... and the rest extend out as I rode. I wrote a summary under each photo to give you a perspective of the location and direction. I found it very interesting that I saw NO Law Enforcement/searchers out there... Many of the fields were turned into lakes. The SE Corner I did notice some tire tracks that had to have been made after the storm (photo 16.5).

http://s520.photobucket.com/albums/w327/caylee08_photo/
thank you for the pics ruzzty :beer:

i think the answers to this case are somwhere near to where caseys phone pings was traced to

[SaraSidle]

Dan I did hear about the band that went by the house and I am sure a lot more of that will happen.


Ruzzty those pictures were fantastic. I was especially interested in the undeveloped area. I wonder why the police was not searching or had they already? Looks like a pretty big place. IMO

[INGASON14]

Dan I did hear about the band that went by the house and I am sure a lot more of that will happen.


Ruzzty those pictures were fantastic. I was especially interested in the undeveloped area. I wonder why the police was not searching or had they already? Looks like a pretty big place. IMO

Ruzzty, have you looked closely at the pictures? Number two interests me the most. What is that laying out in the field? Could be nothing but that jumped out at me.

[dan_uk]

Ruzzty, have you looked closely at the pictures? Number two interests me the most. What is that laying out in the field? Could be nothing but that jumped out at me.could be a old fence post

[dan_uk]

pics 2,16.5 and 17 look the perfect place to hide something

[susie31023]

pics 2,16.5 and 17 look the perfect place to hide something

dan those are great pics and thank you for taking them. I agree those spots look like the perfect place to hide something. JMO

[SaraSidle]

Ruzzty, have you looked closely at the pictures? Number two interests me the most. What is that laying out in the field? Could be nothing but that jumped out at me.

You are right Inga. good eye. looks like a white cloth. IMO

[ErrinSpelling]

Bounty Hunter Says Casey Asked Friends To Help Hide Caylee

POSTED: 10:20 am EDT August 21, 2008
UPDATED: 10:32 am EDT August 25, 2008


ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. -- Family and friends of missing toddler Caylee Anthony held a candlelight vigil, Sunday. Casey Anthony will meet with corrections officials Monday, to discuss the terms and conditions of her home confinement.

The Anthony family was expected to leave their East Orange County home Sunday, to go to church. Instead church leaders came to her home. Their pastor said little about his visit.

"Did she ask for forgiveness for what‘s happened?" asked Channel 9 reporter Sean Lavin. "You know I can’t go there. We had a wonderful time in the lord," said their pastor.

The question still remains," Where is Caylee?" The bounty hunter who helped bail Casey out of jail has his own theory.

Leonard Padilla believes Casey wanted to move out of her parents’ house but they were too worried about Caylee’s wellbeing, so she persuaded her friends to help hide her daughter.

"They got Caylee out of town with the help of a friend or a relative. That’s why the whole time she was in jail, she didn’t seem concerned about the baby." said bounty hunter Leonard Padilla.

The 22-year-old was being monitored through an electronic bracelet strapped to her ankle and connected to the home phone line. According to a family spokesman, Casey was talking freely with her parents and helping them with new leads into the whereabouts of her missing child.

http://www.wftv.com/news/17253396/detail.html?rss=orlc&psp=news
i didn't think i would ever get to this page.

the bounty hunter sounds like a defense attorney.he believes she would rather sit in jail ,(if it wasn't for his bail)than tell the police ,or be with her daughter.the police didn't have to tell her parents,if that was true....i'm afraid the real attorney is going to say later,oh & oops something happened to caylee, while with the friend or relative....

[Ruzzty]

Ruzzty, have you looked closely at the pictures? Number two interests me the most. What is that laying out in the field? Could be nothing but that jumped out at me.

More than likely, just trash from a passing car. The speed limit is 50mph and the traffic light is another 1/4 mile ahead. I did notice a small white cloth band children wear further down the road. Not sure what they are called, but they are elastic and bunch-up to make a circle. I also came across a baby gator (deceased) along the road out on that long stretch of road. No, I didn't take a picture out of respect for my Fla Gator fans. :)

[Ruzzty]

i didn't think i would ever get to this page.

the bounty hunter sounds like a defense attorney.he believes she would rather sit in jail ,(if it wasn't for his bail)than tell the police ,or be with her daughter.the police didn't have to tell her parents,if that was true....i'm afraid the real attorney is going to say later,oh & oops something happened to caylee, while with the friend or relative....

Exactly. If a body is ever found, they will claim someone else harmed her. They will spin the story to fit their defense, plain and simple.

[SaraSidle]

Florida Mother Does Not Attend Vigil For Missing Daughter

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=7279982&version=1&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=3.3.1

I just wanted to repeat this for everyone. quote from Cindy in link


"I understand why my daughter is so calm. I understand why she is so calm, because I am there with her. I am calm because I get it. I can't do anything about it. She can't do anything about it. I have to trust in God," said Cindy Anthony.


I do not believe this is a good sign at all..........IMO

[dan_uk]

dan those are great pics and thank you for taking them. I agree those spots look like the perfect place to hide something. JMOi didnt take them ruzzty did

[dan_uk]

Leonard Padilla believes Casey wanted to move out of her parents’ house but they were too worried about Caylee’s wellbeing, so she persuaded her friends to help hide her daughter.

"They got Caylee out of town with the help of a friend or a relative. That’s why the whole time she was in jail, she didn’t seem concerned about the baby." said bounty hunter Leonard Padilla.
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so if this is true why hasnt the friend or relative come forward to say caylees safe and ok

[rosejustrose]

Leonard Padilla believes Casey wanted to move out of her parents’ house but they were too worried about Caylee’s wellbeing, so she persuaded her friends to help hide her daughter.

"They got Caylee out of town with the help of a friend or a relative. That’s why the whole time she was in jail, she didn’t seem concerned about the baby." said bounty hunter Leonard Padilla.
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so if this is true why hasnt the friend or relative come forward to say caylees safe and ok


Good question! I wonder what the conversations inside the Anthony house are like. Do you think Casey told them something to make them feel "calm". I'm with Sara, I don't think Cindy's calm statement is a good sign. JMO.

[dan_uk]

Investigators release discovery, Casey meets case worker

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail?contentId=7283657&version=2&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=1.1.1

[Woostock]

So Cindy gets "it" What is "it" ? What a convoluted thing for Cindy to say....
It sounds so ominous. Any ideas as to what Cindy is trying to say...I have wondered if Cindy knows Caylee is no longer alive and can't bear to think maybe this could have been prevented. If she and Casey didn't get along and fought, especially over Caylee, she may feel guilty that Caylee is gone and at the hands of her daughter, no less. I wonder if Casey did something to her daughter to punish Cindy....If a family ever needed group therapy this one did.

[rosejustrose]

So Cindy gets "it" What is "it" ? What a convoluted thing for Cindy to say....
It sounds so ominous. Any ideas as to what Cindy is trying to say...I have wondered if Cindy knows Caylee is no longer alive and can't bear to think maybe this could have been prevented. If she and Casey didn't get along and fought, especially over Caylee, she may feel guilty that Caylee is gone and at the hands of her daughter, no less. I wonder if Casey did something to her daughter to punish Cindy....If a family ever needed group therapy this one did.

I can only imagine what she meant by that. Maybe she means she buys Casey's story that someone has Caylee but there's nothing they can do but be calm and wait. Or maybe she means she's come to believe Caylee isn't coming back because she's dead :shrug: ITA that the family needs therapy, it isn't too late to start. JMO.

[ErrinSpelling]

Exactly. If a body is ever found, they will claim someone else harmed her. They will spin the story to fit their defense, plain and simple.

it's sad ,they look like they are getting ready to do that.i have been reading
everyone talking about all the lies, for weeks..i don't know why i was shocked to get to this story on page 73 & see she is still lying? maybe , because they are such stupid lies......now she has to make up some stories about what is so terrible about her parent's, that she will risk prison &/ or will let that friend or relative keep her child,on the run forever, & let everyone hate her.
(she didn't want to go to church,so she must know everyone dislikes her.how can she take her child away now).

[ErrinSpelling]

Leonard Padilla believes Casey wanted to move out of her parents’ house but they were too worried about Caylee’s wellbeing, so she persuaded her friends to help hide her daughter.

"They got Caylee out of town with the help of a friend or a relative. That’s why the whole time she was in jail, she didn’t seem concerned about the baby." said bounty hunter Leonard Padilla.
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so if this is true why hasnt the friend or relative come forward to say caylees safe and ok

i was thinking earlier, that is a really nice friend or relative & a lucky friend....nice, because they just stopped their life & took care of caylee ,even while casey was in jail & i guess is going to have to find a job & take care of & hide caylee ,until casey can escape the public & the police....

& lucky because they haven't been found.

[rosejustrose]

i was thinking earlier, that is a really nice friend or relative & a lucky friend....nice, because they just stopped their life & took care of caylee ,even while casey was in jail & i guess is going to have to find a job & take care of & hide caylee ,until casey can escape the public & the police....

& lucky because they haven't been found.


It' more likely an imaginery friend, IMO.

Welcome:seeya:

[ErrinSpelling]

Investigators release discovery, Casey meets case worker

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail?contentId=7283657&version=2&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=1.1.1

hmmm...i wonder if investigatorss think padilla is getting in their way.

[ErrinSpelling]

It' more likely an imaginery friend, IMO.

Welcome:seeya:
:punch:thank-you very much rose!

ooooh imaginary friend.that is the only explanation....it sounds like a sociopath's imaginary friend..the kind who will protect you, at all costs to themselves.

[ErrinSpelling]

:seeya:

[susie31023]

i didnt take them ruzzty did

:tongue:I am so sorry ruzzty and dan. I was looking at the pictures and not paying attention to what my fingers were typing. Again so sorry ruzzty:(. The pictures are awesome thank you~Susie

[SaraSidle]

[QUOTE]]

:tongue:I am so sorry ruzzty and dan. I was looking at the pictures and not paying attention to what my fingers were typing. Again so sorry ruzzty:(. The pictures are awesome thank you~Susie

those pictures look like this would have to be a massive search and too many trees to do it by air. LE has their hands full. Thanks again Ruzzty

[Karin]

Why do they not have the DNA analysis back? It seems like it has taken alot longer than it should. It seems to me that if they had the results back and are sitting on it, that it must not be incriminating. What do you guys think?

[susie31023]

those pictures look like this would have to be a massive search and too many trees to do it by air. LE has their hands full. Thanks again Ruzzty

Sara they look like their very thick and would definitely take some time to search through. Where are all the searchers? Isn't anyone searching for this poor little girl. She is so beautiful and I am so afraid Casey has done something to her.:flamemad:

[SaraSidle]

Sara they look like their very thick and would definitely take some time to search through. Where are all the searchers? Isn't anyone searching for this poor little girl. She is so beautiful and I am so afraid Casey has done something to her.:flamemad:

They may have already searched it after they found out about the ping on the cell phone. I don't know. And I have no idea why they are releasing useless information to the press. Nothing tangible to locate Caylee on 400 pages. IMO:cuss:

[susie31023]

They may have already searched it after they found out about the ping on the cell phone. I don't know. And I have no idea why they are releasing useless information to the press. Nothing tangible to locate Caylee on 400 pages. IMO:cuss:

Why is everyone just kissing her A%^? Just take her into a private room and force her to tell what she did with this little angel:flamemad:

[SaraSidle]

Why is everyone just kissing her A%^? Just take her into a private room and force her to tell what she did with this little angel:flamemad:

I still want to use truth serum. IMO

[Brainstorm]

I agree, sara

[susie31023]

I still want to use truth serum. IMO

Trth serum 4377. I say give me a rubber hose and I guarantee you she would talk:cuss:

[rosejustrose]

Why do they not have the DNA analysis back? It seems like it has taken alot longer than it should. It seems to me that if they had the results back and are sitting on it, that it must not be incriminating. What do you guys think?

Hi, Karin! IIRC, they haven't made public whether or not they have the results back. IMO, if they do have them and haven't added additional, more serious charges than maybe it's not the evidence they need to prove Casey hurt Caylee. Maybe they're just holding it back to make Casey sweat it out and maybe break. Who knows. I just wish something would break and Caylee would be found alive. JMO.

[rosejustrose]

Sara they look like their very thick and would definitely take some time to search through. Where are all the searchers? Isn't anyone searching for this poor little girl. She is so beautiful and I am so afraid Casey has done something to her.:flamemad:

They may have already searched it after they found out about the ping on the cell phone. I don't know. And I have no idea why they are releasing useless information to the press. Nothing tangible to locate Caylee on 400 pages. IMO:cuss:

Maybe they do have the DNA evidence back and it doesn't contain Caylee's DNA. Maybe they're thinking there may some kernel of truth in all the lies and Caylee is alive. With Fay out of the area I would have thought the searches would have resumed. Maybe it's still too swampy, wet or dangerous. I'm with you all. Truth serum, waterboards, rubber hoses, electric shocks, whatever it takes, just get the truth out of her. JMHO.

[lighthousedazy]

Sara they look like their very thick and would definitely take some time to search through. Where are all the searchers? Isn't anyone searching for this poor little girl. She is so beautiful and I am so afraid Casey has done something to her.:flamemad:
I agree, and it looks like a massive area to search not just woods but lots of ponds and water also. jmo :(

[soccermom]

Trth serum 4377. I say give me a rubber hose and I guarantee you she would talk:cuss:


I would love to help ya susie :mad:

Just wish this precious little girl---where ever she is---is found :rose:

[soccermom]

Thank you soooooooo much for providing the pictures---you are super!!!!

[susie31023]

I would love to help ya susie :mad:

Just wish this precious little girl---where ever she is---is found :rose:

I also pray she is found:rose:. I am just afraid of what this little one had to go through because of her so called mother:cuss:

[loulou58]

I have decided that I think Casey sold or gave her daughter away, which is illegal to do. And I think maybe Casey has admitted to her parents what she has done. Could be why Cindy says she understands now. Possibly why she is fearing for Casey to talk. If this is what happened, they are hoping that LE can find who has her and swear she was kidnapped to keep Casey out of trouble. Still doesnt explain most of her lies.(stolen gas cans, working at universal, etc.) But would explain her partying...she kindof did know where her daughter was if she gave her away or sold her. Also, I think that if there was DNA to prove decomp...they would have her under the jail by now. Its not there. The lab would not drag their feet knowing a little girl was waiting on them to complete their test and possibly still alive. Thats obsurd. LE does not want to admit they were wrong about there being decomp in the car....especially after being so certain Casey killed Caylee.

[dcrc]

I have decided that I think Casey sold or gave her daughter away, which is illegal to do. And I think maybe Casey has admitted to her parents what she has done. Could be why Cindy says she understands now. Possibly why she is fearing for Casey to talk. If this is what happened, they are hoping that LE can find who has her and swear she was kidnapped to keep Casey out of trouble. Still doesnt explain most of her lies.(stolen gas cans, working at universal, etc.) But would explain her partying...she kindof did know where her daughter was if she gave her away or sold her. Also, I think that if there was DNA to prove decomp...they would have her under the jail by now. Its not there. The lab would not drag their feet knowing a little girl was waiting on them to complete their test and possibly still alive. Thats obsurd. LE does not want to admit they were wrong about there being decomp in the car....especially after being so certain Casey killed Caylee.

For little Caylee sake, I would like to believe the same. But I think Casey hurt Caylee and the child is dead.

I feel Casey is a sociopath and most likely has been mentally ill for a long time. I just have to wonder if her parent ever seeked professional help for their daughter. My God, these parents had to know that something was very wrong with their daughter.

I think if Casey had given Caylee to someone or sold the child, the person or persons involved would have contacted the FBI or the sheriff department to relinquish the child. If not, the people would be considered kidnappers. Padilla is saying that Casey lack of concern is because she give Caylee to friends. The friends were suppose to get Caylee out of town to keep Caylee away from Casey parents. This is just some more of her lies and putting blame on others, her friends and her parents.

I found a web site that give a profile of a sociopath, from what I've seen and hear of Casey, this profile seems to fit Casey very well.
link to web site:

http://www.mcafee.cc/Bin/sb.html

[Woostock]

although I am not in a position to diagnose, Casey certainly has some of the manifestations of a sociopath. She does seem to lack empathy for others; ragefulness, and disregard for others' rights. Intervention at an early age might have prevented this horrible situation but she is so far gone by now that we may never know the truth. You can't believe a word she says. I would guess that many of us would be using very diverse methods if we were in this situation and looking for our grandaughter. My methods would not be pretty but Casey's life would be a living hell if she were my daughter. She would have a very short window of opportunity to tell me the TRUTH. I am disgusted with the family and hold them just as responsible as Casey. I shutter to think Casey may have brought harm to Caylee and all this time has elapsed----alas; working in Casey's favor if no body is ever found. I pray that LE is able to put together a solid case whether the body is found or not. Casey can not get away with this-she needs to start telling what happened and not use time on her side any more.

[rosejustrose]

although I am not in a position to diagnose, Casey certainly has some of the manifestations of a sociopath. She does seem to lack empathy for others; ragefulness, and disregard for others' rights. Intervention at an early age might have prevented this horrible situation but she is so far gone by now that we may never know the truth. You can't believe a word she says. I would guess that many of us would be using very diverse methods if we were in this situation and looking for our grandaughter. My methods would not be pretty but Casey's life would be a living hell if she were my daughter. She would have a very short window of opportunity to tell me the TRUTH. I am disgusted with the family and hold them just as responsible as Casey. I shutter to think Casey may have brought harm to Caylee and all this time has elapsed----alas; working in Casey's favor if no body is ever found. I pray that LE is able to put together a solid case whether the body is found or not. Casey can not get away with this-she needs to start telling what happened and not use time on her side any more.

ITA. I'm beginning to wonder what Baez is thinking in terms of legal strategy. IMO, it seems to be a wait and see what happens with the forensics. If Casey can hold out long enough and LE can't come up with any concrete evidence against her for more serious charges, what will happen? Will she only get 6 years for child neglect? I'm thinking they don't have enough to bring manslaughter/murder charges and don't want to risk it due to double jeopardy. If Casey just keeps quiet and sticks to her story, whatever the latest version may be, I think she might just get away with this. Unless, of course, Caylee is found. IMO, she's a cold, sociopathic witch. I shutter to think about what Caylee's life was like with her. JMHO

For Caylee and all the little missing babies:rose:

[soccermom]

I agree unless they dont find her then she can actually get away with this and it makes me more mad. I just wish Caylee finds peace---peace knowing that everything is going to be alright and be at peace ya know.

I like to know if the police is building up a case against her--what about the DNA and airsamples---whats going on??? and is it hard to believe that Casey is that good to cover up her tracks???I thought with the lastest tech. that no one can get away with a crime--hummmm i guess i want answers.

XO 2 Caylee

[joekuhl79]

Does anyone know where (or if) these 400-odd pages are posted?


Padilla - I think he is going to say whatever he needs to say to make Casey think he is on her side. There is almost always a little truth in lies, and maybe he can find something out of whatever she may say.

Cindy being 'okay with it' or whatever...I think she wants so badly to believe that Caylee is okay, and that Casey would not harm her or lie about such a serious matter (lying about a job and/or stealing gas is one thing, but covering up a death - or worse...) that Cindy has to choose to accept that Casey is calm because she knows Caylee is okay, so Cindy herself has to assume that Caylee is okay.

As far as the noise about Casey wanting to give Caylee up for adoption...there are headlines that say "Missing child unwanted" which is a horrible spin. I'm no fan of Casey Anthony, but I do know that plenty of young pregnant girls/women consider adoption to varying degrees. I think this is a non-issue and being hyped for shock-value headlines.

[Its just me]

Does anyone know where (or if) these 400-odd pages are posted?


Padilla - I think he is going to say whatever he needs to say to make Casey think he is on her side. There is almost always a little truth in lies, and maybe he can find something out of whatever she may say.

Cindy being 'okay with it' or whatever...I think she wants so badly to believe that Caylee is okay, and that Casey would not harm her or lie about such a serious matter (lying about a job and/or stealing gas is one thing, but covering up a death - or worse...) that Cindy has to choose to accept that Casey is calm because she knows Caylee is okay, so Cindy herself has to assume that Caylee is okay.

As far as the noise about Casey wanting to give Caylee up for adoption...there are headlines that say "Missing child unwanted" which is a horrible spin. I'm no fan of Casey Anthony, but I do know that plenty of young pregnant girls/women consider adoption to varying degrees. I think this is a non-issue and being hyped for shock-value headlines.

I have got behind following this case but I do agree with your thoughts on Casey wanting to give the baby up for adoption...I actually commend her considering the rate for abortions. I think news coverage is wonderful but it often gets out of hand for the sake of making Headlines. Prayful and hopeful the case will be solved and Caylee is alive...but with what little I know about the case I don't think she is.

[INGASON14]

I have got behind following this case but I do agree with your thoughts on Casey wanting to give the baby up for adoption...I actually commend her considering the rate for abortions. I think news coverage is wonderful but it often gets out of hand for the sake of making Headlines. Prayful and hopeful the case will be solved and Caylee is alive...but with what little I know about the case I don't think she is.

Ok just gonna throw some ideas out there for argument sake.

Casey wanted to give the baby up for adoption but Cindy talked her out of it. Hummmmmm so why didn't Cindy then ask for custody if she new Casey didn't want the baby. In my opinion this is setting Casey up for failure.

Did Casey actually give her daughter to someone she trusted and that person was told to take Caylee out of state? Was there fear of molestation in regards to Caylee? If this is true then they will have a hard time charging Casey with neglect. She got her child out of harms way.

I feel that Casey was trying to protect Caylee and then it just snowballed and now she doesn't know how to come clean or there is still some fear on Casey's part. There was a comment by one of Casey's friends that she hated her dad. Wonder what that is all about. Could be he was trying to make Casey a responsible adult and Casey bucking. Or there is deeper issues that we are not aware of.

Just some food for thought. This is just my opinion and some feelings I have

[SaraSidle]

I have got behind following this case but I do agree with your thoughts on Casey wanting to give the baby up for adoption...I actually commend her considering the rate for abortions. I think news coverage is wonderful but it often gets out of hand for the sake of making Headlines. Prayful and hopeful the case will be solved and Caylee is alive...but with what little I know about the case I don't think she is.

the worst scenario for me is Casey will keep the lies spinning, (no reason not to she has been doing it her whole life),DNA will not be enough to convict and Caylee with never be found. I so want to be wrong........IMO

[Its just me]

Ok just gonna throw some ideas out there for argument sake.

Casey wanted to give the baby up for adoption but Cindy talked her out of it. Hummmmmm so why didn't Cindy then ask for custody if she new Casey didn't want the baby. In my opinion this is setting Casey up for failure.

Did Casey actually give her daughter to someone she trusted and that person was told to take Caylee out of state? Was there fear of molestation in regards to Caylee? If this is true then they will have a hard time charging Casey with neglect. She got her child out of harms way.

I feel that Casey was trying to protect Caylee and then it just snowballed and now she doesn't know how to come clean or there is still some fear on Casey's part. There was a comment by one of Casey's friends that she hated her dad. Wonder what that is all about. Could be he was trying to make Casey a responsible adult and Casey bucking. Or there is deeper issues that we are not aware of.

Just some food for thought. This is just my opinion and some feelings I have

Thanks, I don't know the reason for there to be relationship problems between Casey and her parents but I am fully convienced there are serious problems that did not just begin. From what I've seen of the parents they appear to be well rounded people but I also know that most evil does not wear devil horns in public. I personally lean more toward the dad being firm with Casey trying to make her into a responsible adultbut you do make a good point it could be an issue with the Dad. To my knowledge it has not been told why there was an argument at the home between Casey and someone the week-end before Caylee is reported to have been last seen but I'm certain the neighbor reported hearing Casey having an argument.
What has really happened to Caylee is tied to that argument if in the argument took place and until proven it didn't happen I think it did. fep

[rosejustrose]

Ok just gonna throw some ideas out there for argument sake.

Casey wanted to give the baby up for adoption but Cindy talked her out of it. Hummmmmm so why didn't Cindy then ask for custody if she new Casey didn't want the baby. In my opinion this is setting Casey up for failure.

Did Casey actually give her daughter to someone she trusted and that person was told to take Caylee out of state? Was there fear of molestation in regards to Caylee? If this is true then they will have a hard time charging Casey with neglect. She got her child out of harms way.

I feel that Casey was trying to protect Caylee and then it just snowballed and now she doesn't know how to come clean or there is still some fear on Casey's part. There was a comment by one of Casey's friends that she hated her dad. Wonder what that is all about. Could be he was trying to make Casey a responsible adult and Casey bucking. Or there is deeper issues that we are not aware of.

Just some food for thought. This is just my opinion and some feelings I have

Thanks, I don't know the reason for there to be relationship problems between Casey and her parents but I am fully convienced there are serious problems that did not just begin. From what I've seen of the parents they appear to be well rounded people but I also know that most evil does not wear devil horns in public. I personally lean more toward the dad being firm with Casey trying to make her into a responsible adultbut you do make a good point it could be an issue with the Dad. To my knowledge it has not been told why there was an argument at the home between Casey and someone the week-end before Caylee is reported to have been last seen but I'm certain the neighbor reported hearing Casey having an argument.
What has really happened to Caylee is tied to that argument if in the argument took place and until proven it didn't happen I think it did. fep

I believe the argument took place on Father's Day and the next day was the last time Caylee was seen by anyone but her mother. The family does seem to be hiding some skeletons, but what family isn't. However, in this case it would seem that it's time to rattle those bones and get the truth out there. If Casey wanted to put Caylee up for adoption, that was admirable thing and an admission that she wasn't ready or didn't want to be a parent. If her parents wanted the child, they should have adopted her, not forced Casey into the role of mother when she didn't want to play that part.

I wonder if anyone thought to look for Caylee's paperwork - birth certificate, baptismal certificate, medical records, dental records, etc. Most parents' keep these types of papers together and in a secure place. Surely if they are missing it would lean towards Casey trying to give the baby away now.

I honestly don't believe that's the case, though. IMO, whatever happened to Caylee was spontaneous and Casey had over 30 days to cover it. In the heat and humidity of Florida, that's a long time for a little body to disappear. JMHO.

[susie31023]

although I am not in a position to diagnose, Casey certainly has some of the manifestations of a sociopath. She does seem to lack empathy for others; ragefulness, and disregard for others' rights. Intervention at an early age might have prevented this horrible situation but she is so far gone by now that we may never know the truth. You can't believe a word she says. I would guess that many of us would be using very diverse methods if we were in this situation and looking for our grandaughter. My methods would not be pretty but Casey's life would be a living hell if she were my daughter. She would have a very short window of opportunity to tell me the TRUTH. I am disgusted with the family and hold them just as responsible as Casey. I shutter to think Casey may have brought harm to Caylee and all this time has elapsed----alas; working in Casey's favor if no body is ever found. I pray that LE is able to put together a solid case whether the body is found or not. Casey can not get away with this-she needs to start telling what happened and not use time on her side any more.

Great post woodstock I agree completely
:beer:

[Its just me]

I believe the argument took place on Father's Day and the next day was the last time Caylee was seen by anyone but her mother. The family does seem to be hiding some skeletons, but what family isn't. However, in this case it would seem that it's time to rattle those bones and get the truth out there. If Casey wanted to put Caylee up for adoption, that was admirable thing and an admission that she wasn't ready or didn't want to be a parent. If her parents wanted the child, they should have adopted her, not forced Casey into the role of mother when she didn't want to play that part.

I wonder if anyone thought to look for Caylee's paperwork - birth certificate, baptismal certificate, medical records, dental records, etc. Most parents' keep these types of papers together and in a secure place. Surely if they are missing it would lean towards Casey trying to give the baby away now.

I honestly don't believe that's the case, though. IMO, whatever happened to Caylee was spontaneous and Casey had over 30 days to cover it. In the heat and humidity of Florida, that's a long time for a little body to disappear. JMHO.

Thanks, Good point about if the personal papers for Caylee are missing. We can only form opinions with little facts about anything any you are absolutely right about everyone having skeletons and anyone claiming otherwise is not being honest. Knowing the problems within the family could cause me to think it could be possible Caylee has been put out for adoption, sold or whatever but if that is what happened it had been in the making before Caylee was last seen. I'm not buying Caylee has been taken by the sitter at all. If Caylee is alive it was well planned an a direct hit at the grandparents

It only takes a short time for decomp. to set in after someone is deceased. I recently lost a friend who was not found in his home for 2/3 days. The son who found his Dad will be haunted by the sight for a long time. Needless to say..it was impossible to have a viewing. Just sharing because of the possibility there is evidence Caylee was deceased in the car. fep

[dcrc]

I'm not buying either theory, the kidnapping or giving Caylee to friends. If Caylee had been kidnapped, there is no way that Casey wouldn't told friends or called her parents. And she sure in the hell wouldn't have moved in with her boyfriend and went out partying, even Leonard Padilla doesn't seem to buy the kidnapping story due to Casey lack of concern for Caylee.

I don't buy the story of Casey giving Caylee to friends so they could hide Caylee from Casey parents. If this had a grain of truth, the friends would have contacted the authorites immediately to clear themselves of being kidnappers and to clear Casey from possible murder charges. No person is their right mind is going to continue to hide a child when the FBI is involved. Also, if this were the case, why didn't Casey just come forward and tell her so-called friends to return Caylee? After all, how could the friends be in any trouble if they were doing what Casey asked them to do?

She is blaming her family and friends for her terrible deed.

This gal is guilty as sin.

[Its just me]

I'm not buying either theory, the kidnapping or giving Caylee to friends. If Caylee had been kidnapped, there is no way that Casey wouldn't told friends or called her parents. And she sure in the hell wouldn't have moved in with her boyfriend and went out partying, even Leonard Padilla doesn't seem to buy the kidnapping story due to Casey lack of concern for Caylee.

I don't buy the story of Casey giving Caylee to friends so they could hide Caylee from Casey parents. If this had a grain of truth, the friends would have contacted the authorites immediately to clear themselves of being kidnappers and to clear Casey from possible murder charges. No person is their right mind is going to continue to hide a child when the FBI is involved. Also, if this were the case, why didn't Casey just come forward and tell her so-called friends to return Caylee? After all, how could the friends be in any trouble if they were doing what Casey asked them to do?

She is blaming her family and friends for her terrible deed.

This gal is guilty as sin.
When all is said and done I'm afraid you are right. Casey is quilty as sin and blaming others for her terrible deed.

I don't say much because this day and time people have different views on raising kids but I'm from the old school and will say if Casey belonged to me and my husband and she did not talk there is no chance of her ever talking. Casey may not care about anyone else but I'll grant you she loves herself. I've yet to see stiff enough punishment fail to get the attention of out of control kids. Sometimes it like Woodstock said..it's not pretty but by golly it works. Plus they may not like it while it's happening but you will have their respect. fep

[ErrinSpelling]

Deputy Fired After Lying About Relationship With Casey Anthony

POSTED: 4:17 pm EDT August 26, 2008
UPDATED: 6:06 pm EDT August 26, 2008


ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. -- An Orange County sheriff's deputy was fired for not telling the truth about his relationship with Caylee's mom Casey Anthony. While Casey was visiting her lawyer Tuesday, Eyewitness News learned that Deputy Tony Rusciano was fired.

It turns out Rusciano met Casey's ex-fiancé, Jesse Grund, while at the police academy. Grund introduced him to Casey Anthony and they began a relationship. But when Rusciano was questioned by detectives about it, they said he denied a relationship.

Detectives got computer records that proved the two had been communicating. Detectives said Rusciana lied twice about their relationship until he was confronted with the records. Deputy Rusciano was still a probationary employee, so he was fired for lying on August 22.

"This is something we will not tolerate under any circumstances or any case especially a case that has national implications. We're talking about a situation where we're expending many man hours," said Capt. Angelo Nieves, Orange County Sheriff's Office.

Sources told Eyewitness News the deputy had nothing to do with Caylee's disappearance.

http://www.wftv.com/news/17303050/detail.html
all i can say is ,at least they figured this out, before there was a trial..why would he lie?does anyone tell the truth.
and it was bad enough when the grandmother said she smelled death, but it's worse when they have the tow company.

[dcrc]

all i can say is ,at least they figured this out, before there was a trial..why would he lie?does anyone tell the truth.
and it was bad enough when the grandmother said she smelled death, but it's worse when they have the tow company.

You are so right. Simon Birch, a manager at the wrecker yard where the Anthony's car was towed noticed a strong odor from the vehicle. Birch said the car smelled like another once stored on the lot in which a man had committed suicide.

[ErrinSpelling]

You are so right. Simon Birch, a manager at the wrecker yard where the Anthony's car was towed noticed a strong odor from the vehicle. Birch said the car smelled like another once stored on the lot in which a man had committed suicide.

simon birch:that's his name...it was also in dan's article early today.

[One2Snoop]

You are so right. Simon Birch, a manager at the wrecker yard where the Anthony's car was towed noticed a strong odor from the vehicle. Birch said the car smelled like another once stored on the lot in which a man had committed suicide.

:eek: :eek: So now its confirmed that the tow company smelled it also? This is huge IMO.

[lighthousedazy]

:eek: :eek: So now its confirmed that the tow company smelled it also? This is huge IMO.I read that in one of the articles today. Not sure if it was the Orlando Sentinel, or WFTV, or another site. On Nancy Grace tonight CNN Headline News, it seems that Leonard Padillo is having second thoughts also after reading the 400 page documents that were released although he maintained that there may still be a slim chance that Caylee is alive. He said that if he knew then what he knows now after reading the report that he would not have come to Florida. My observation and opinion.
:(

[Its just me]

:eek: :eek: So now its confirmed that the tow company smelled it also? This is huge IMO.

Very telling and very sad. The smell of death is serious business. Poor baby... there is no telling what this crazy mom did to her. :( fep

[One2Snoop]

I read that in one of the articles today. Not sure if it was the Orlando Sentinel, or WFTV, or another site. On Nancy Grace tonight CNN Headline News, it seems that Leonard Padillo is having second thoughts also after reading the 400 page documents that were released although he maintained that there may still be a slim chance that Caylee is alive. He said that if he knew then what he knows now after reading the report that he would not have come to Florida. My observation and opinion.
:(

Thats very interesting lighthouse. I posted the link to the documents but haven't read through them yet. :eek: This isn't looking good at all if Padilla is even having second thoughts.

Just an FYI - Padilla's been posting over at WS - they have a thread going there for him. I won't post the link but you all know where it is if you want to check it out.

[One2Snoop]

Very telling and very sad. The smell of death is serious business. Poor baby... there is no telling what this crazy mom did to her. :( fep

From what I've been reading, I simply don't understand how Casey can remain so calm in her responses to LE - it's almost as if she's missing the caring, feeling side of her brain. WTH? :confused:

[dcrc]

From what I've been reading, I simply don't understand how Casey can remain so calm in her responses to LE - it's almost as if she's missing the caring, feeling side of her brain. WTH? :confused:

I think the girl is a sociopath, if so, she is not going to feel anything for her child. If she did do something to the poor little child, she has one thing on her mind and that's saving her own rotten butt.:cuss:

[dcrc]

Thats very interesting lighthouse. I posted the link to the documents but haven't read through them yet. :eek: This isn't looking good at all if Padilla is even having second thoughts.

Just an FYI - Padilla's been posting over at WS - they have a thread going there for him. I won't post the link but you all know where it is if you want to check it out.

I saw Padilla on NG and sure sounds like he is having second thoughts about Casey. He said that two of his colleagues has already left and went back to CA, they didn't want to have anything more to do with case.

[One2Snoop]

I saw Padilla on NG and sure sounds like he is having second thoughts about Casey. He said that two of his colleagues has already left and went back to CA, they didn't want to have anything more to do with case.


I'm a bit behind on whats been going on :eek: but if thats the case somethings definitely seriously wrong with the entire family dynamics. IMO :mad:

For Caylee - :rose:

[scubadvr99]

So, after Tropical storm fay left, I decided to take another bike ride.

Saturday August 23, 2008 I rode down Heitzelman Blvd and brought my camera. Recall the news of LE getting pings on the SE end of Orlando International Airport? Well, I rode out there and I took pictures. I added them to my other photos and renamed them with numbers. Basically, 1 is closet to my home... and the rest extend out as I rode. I wrote a summary under each photo to give you a perspective of the location and direction. I found it very interesting that I saw NO Law Enforcement/searchers out there... Many of the fields were turned into lakes. The SE Corner I did notice some tire tracks that had to have been made after the storm (photo 16.5).

http://s520.photobucket.com/albums/w327/caylee08_photo/


Thanks for the pics. I agree, I am suprised that no searches are going on. I pray that the truth comes out soon.

[scubadvr99]

Link to all Casey Anthony Documents...

http://www.docstoc.com/search/Casey-Anthony-Documents-august-25/


Thanks one2, excellent link :seeya:

[rosejustrose]

Search for Caylee Continues -- Online (http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/story?id=5660883&page=1)

I hope you had a nice holiday! You were missed and I'm glad you're back!:rose:

[rosejustrose]

I saw Padilla on NG and sure sounds like he is having second thoughts about Casey. He said that two of his colleagues has already left and went back to CA, they didn't want to have anything more to do with case.


If that's what he truly believes, he should have her bail revoked and send her miserable butt back to jail! It's obvious she's not going to tell what happened to Caylee. IMO, either she's going to kill herself or her parents are going to. JMO.

[rosejustrose]

Thats very interesting lighthouse. I posted the link to the documents but haven't read through them yet. :eek: This isn't looking good at all if Padilla is even having second thoughts.

Just an FYI - Padilla's been posting over at WS - they have a thread going there for him. I won't post the link but you all know where it is if you want to check it out.

That's a pretty popular site! I can't believe all the posters over there that are active. I didn't see any posts by Padilla. I have a feeling he'll probably pull the bail. JMO.

[dan_uk]

Deputy Fired After Lying About Relationship With Casey Anthony

POSTED: 4:17 pm EDT August 26, 2008
UPDATED: 6:06 pm EDT August 26, 2008


ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. -- An Orange County sheriff's deputy was fired for not telling the truth about his relationship with Caylee's mom Casey Anthony. While Casey was visiting her lawyer Tuesday, Eyewitness News learned that Deputy Tony Rusciano was fired.

It turns out Rusciano met Casey's ex-fiancé, Jesse Grund, while at the police academy. Grund introduced him to Casey Anthony and they began a relationship. But when Rusciano was questioned by detectives about it, they said he denied a relationship.

Detectives got computer records that proved the two had been communicating. Detectives said Rusciana lied twice about their relationship until he was confronted with the records. Deputy Rusciano was still a probationary employee, so he was fired for lying on August 22.

"This is something we will not tolerate under any circumstances or any case especially a case that has national implications. We're talking about a situation where we're expending many man hours," said Capt. Angelo Nieves, Orange County Sheriff's Office.

Sources told Eyewitness News the deputy had nothing to do with Caylee's disappearance.

http://www.wftv.com/news/17303050/detail.htmlwonder if he could of helped casey cover her tracks because he would know what the police would look for while searching and also casey would keep her mouth shut because if theres no body found and the dna's not good enough and shes not on a murder charge shes looking at 10 years in prison on the charges shes already got but if she admits to murder shes getting life.

[rosejustrose]

wonder if he could of helped casey cover her tracks because he would know what the police would look for while searching and also casey would keep her mouth shut because if theres no body found and the dna's not good enough and shes not on a murder charge shes looking at 10 years in prison on the charges shes already got but if she admits to murder shes getting life.


Morning, Dan! The article says he had nothing to do with Caylee's disappearance but I wonder if he spoke to Casey while she was in jail or during the 31 days between the time Caylee was last seen and reported missing. He may have advised her to keep her mouth shut, IMO. Casey is turning out to be quite the little "get around" girl, isn't she? JMHO.

[dan_uk]

Morning, Dan! The article says he had nothing to do with Caylee's disappearance but I wonder if he spoke to Casey while she was in jail or during the 31 days between the time Caylee was last seen and reported missing. He may have advised her to keep her mouth shut, IMO. Casey is turning out to be quite the little "get around" girl, isn't she? JMHO.morning rose,iam not sure if she had visitors apart from her parents and lawyer and i think she only spoke to family on the phone,but i could be wrong tho

[odette]

I hope you had a nice holiday! You were missed and I'm glad you're back!:rose:

TY Rose! :)

[joekuhl79]

Link to all Casey Anthony Documents...

http://www.docstoc.com/search/Casey-Anthony-Documents-august-25/

Thanks for the link. There's some very interesting stuff there.

Watched parts of NG last night...Padilla - he was annoying, but in a funny way, last week when he was all cocky and loud...last night he just seemed kind of defeated. I actually felt bad for him (I'm a sucker)...

[Ruzzty]

DOCUMENTS SHOW CASEY'S PARENTS HAD YARD SEARCHED
...
Investigators said they found a dinnerware knife among the items in the car Casey abandoned about two weeks after Caylee disappeared. Records show even the tow truck driver noticed the "smell of death" coming from the car.

http://www.wftv.com/news/17303050/detail.html

So.

1. Tow truck driver smells "death"
2. Grandmother smells "death"
3. Two cadaver dogs smell "death"

Amazing the spin that the Anthony's are playing on the public. Then we find out that Casey is having sexual relations with a deputy sheriff? How the h## does she find TIME to have sex while in custody???

[parothed1974]

I've been following this case from the begining and following this thread for several weeks now (good job by the way guys!) but yet to post anything. First off, I want to stress that I'm holding out hope they will find this baby girl alive and well.
I have a question and comment (of sorts). Where are the search parties? Every other time I've seen any sort of missing person case that has had the coverage on the news like this one has, they show the masses of people searching. The only thing I ever hear about being organized is vigil's. And that makes me wonder, does LE have some forensic evidence that could lead them to believe there is no reason to search? Does the family know there is no reason to search? I know, personally, if my daughter was missing, I would be out day and night, looking everywhere trying to find her, and so would my family. We wouldn't be organizing vigils, we'd be organizing search parties. We'd be knocking on doors, passing out fliers, walking the entire state if necessary. I wouldn't & couldn't sit idle while my baby was out there, and neither could my family. They should all be doing more than what they are doing, IMO....

[dan_uk]

i think it happened before she was in jail

[dan_uk]

I've been following this case from the begining and following this thread for several weeks now (good job by the way guys!) but yet to post anything. First off, I want to stress that I'm holding out hope they will find this baby girl alive and well.
I have a question and comment (of sorts). Where are the search parties? Every other time I've seen any sort of missing person case that has had the coverage on the news like this one has, they show the masses of people searching. The only thing I ever hear about being organized is vigil's. And that makes me wonder, does LE have some forensic evidence that could lead them to believe there is no reason to search? Does the family know there is no reason to search? I know, personally, if my daughter was missing, I would be out day and night, looking everywhere trying to find her, and so would my family. We wouldn't be organizing vigils, we'd be organizing search parties. We'd be knocking on doors, passing out fliers, walking the entire state if necessary. I wouldn't & couldn't sit idle while my baby was out there, and neither could my family. They should all be doing more than what they are doing, IMO....welcome parothed

they was doing searches but with the storms i think they put them on hold for now but i could be wrong tho

[soccermom]

Thank you for the updates everyone
As I am working 3-11 all this week i have been missing NG

[susie31023]

TY Rose! :)

Hola mi amigo.. Very glad to see you back.:seeya:

[ErrinSpelling]

NANCY GRACE - Aired August 26, 2008 - Cop Fired for Lying About Relationship With Missing Toddler's Mother (http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0808/26/ng.01.html)
can i please becktrack for a minute to yell at defense attorney, richard herman?he wants to know what these people know about the smell of death...oh gee ,grandfather was in LE...simon birch told you a man commited suicide in another car & i have no idea what cadeaver dogs would know about death:rolleyes:

[ErrinSpelling]

i forgot to say, with all the double talk,i still don't understand who gets the 50,000...did padilla say it's like car insurance:you don't get it back, so it isn't free publicity?

[lighthousedazy]

can i please becktrack for a minute to yell at defense attorney, richard herman?he wants to know what these people know about the smell of death...oh gee ,grandfather was in LE...simon birch told you a man commited suicide in another car & i have no idea what cadeaver dogs would know about death:rolleyes: I thought that remark by Richard Herman was uncalled for. Also when Cindy first called 911 she said the car smelled like a dead body had been it. She is a nurse so she probably knows what it smells like too, although she has recanted on that. :rolleyes:

[ErrinSpelling]

I thought that remark by Richard Herman was uncalled for. Also when Cindy first called 911 she said the car smelled like a dead body had been it. She is a nurse so she probably knows what it smells like too, although she has recanted on that. :rolleyes:
yes, herman's remarks were uncalled for & cause heartburn, so i had to yell at him.
he was so worried that the poor prosecution will be embarrassed, but he sounds afraid for the defense...i forgot she was a nurse.that is even better.

at the beginning of the show.it almost sounded like they were hinting she lost her baby in a poker game, so she took money from grandmother & friend.

[SaraSidle]

just saw on CNN news. Air sample taken from trunk is from a decompensating body. I will check for link.

[Woostock]

this is from fox news:
Results taken from air samples reveal that a body was decomposing in the trunk of a car driven by the mother of missing Florida toddler Caylee Anthony, WESH TV reported.

Detectives and cadaver dogs said they detected the smell of human decomposition coming from the trunk of the Pontiac Casey Anthony was driving when her little girl disappeared more than two months ago.

The University of Tennessee "Body Farm" conducted the tests on the car's air samples Aug. 10, and on Wednesday their conclusion was released: a human corpse was decomposing there.

[Woostock]

Now we may get somewhere in finding the body the sociopath hid.
Let's see what spin and Casey and company put on this...

[ErrinSpelling]

thank-you both for giving us , this information.

[deacon]

this is from fox news:
Results taken from air samples reveal that a body was decomposing in the trunk of a car driven by the mother of missing Florida toddler Caylee Anthony, WESH TV reported.

Detectives and cadaver dogs said they detected the smell of human decomposition coming from the trunk of the Pontiac Casey Anthony was driving when her little girl disappeared more than two months ago.

The University of Tennessee "Body Farm" conducted the tests on the car's air samples Aug. 10, and on Wednesday their conclusion was released: a human corpse was decomposing there.

And that would explain the flys the tow truck driver spoke of coming out of the trunk. They hatched on who ever that was in the trunk decomposing. Sad to say, probably Caylee

[deacon]

Now we may get somewhere in finding the body the sociopath hid.
Let's see what spin and Casey and company put on this...

Oh, I know the "spin" that will be put on it. She had "mental" problems probably PPD and she will walk with a short time in a mental hospital. Not good. The county hunter has already started the spin with his comments about her living in another world than everybody else.

[Ruzzty]

Updated: 17 minutes ago

Air sample tests from Casey Anthony's car show decomposing body was in trunk

Amy L. Edwards and Sarah Lundy | Sentinel Staff Writers
4:07 PM EDT, August 27, 2008

Air sample tests from Casey Anthony's car show a decomposing body was inside the trunk, a sheriff's office official just confirmed.

Officials have offered Anthony a partial immunity deal if she admits 3-year-old Caylee Marie died as a result of an accident.

Investigators with the Orange County Sheriff's Office are at defense attorney Jose Baez's Kissimmee law office. Anthony left Baez's office at 3 p.m., shortly after investigators arrived.

Anthony, wearing sun glasses and a t-shirt depicting her missing daughter, said nothing as she got into the back of a van and drove away with a bounty hunter.

Sgt. John Allen and the three men who were with him also said nothing to reporters when he walked into Anthony's attorney's office.

Meanwhile, California bounty hunter Leonard Padilla said Anthony has made no effort to help him find Caylee, he told the Orlando Sentinel on Wednesday.

"She has not communicated with us at all," Padilla said. "She has no interest in communicating with us."

Padilla, whose nephew posted Anthony's $500,200 bail last week, said if he knew what he knew today about the case, and that the 22-year-old wouldn't cooperate with him, he probably would not have helped get her out of jail.

Padilla said he still thinks Caylee is alive and that Anthony handed her off to someone. But he does not believe the toddler was dropped off with a baby-sitter named Zenaida Fernandez-Gonzalez, which is what Anthony has told detectives.

"We don't believe [Zenaida Fernandez-Gonzalez] exists," Padilla said.

"[Anthony's] got an invisible friend that's called Zenaida," he said. "She's got a world that she lives in that's apart from ours."

Padilla said he is using Anthony's cell phone records as part of his own investigation and has spoken to some of her friends.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/services/newspaper/printedition/wednesday/localandstate/orl-caylee-marie-anthony-missing-082708,0,2555351.story

Game, set, Match!

Your fast! I just heard this news on 540wfla radio and came to post. Amazing it didn't come back smelling like laundry detergent w/ old pizza.

Channel 9 did that test... after 3 weeks in the trunk, the bag smelled like.............. laundry detergent! <<shocker>>

[SaraSidle]

Game, set, Match!

Your fast! I just heard this news on 540wfla radio and came to post. Amazing it didn't come back smelling like laundry detergent w/ old pizza.

Channel 9 did that test... after 3 weeks in the trunk, the bag smelled like.............. laundry detergent! <<shocker>>

One2Snoop is always on it. Now the defense can say that the car sat in the lot abandoned for 3 days and in the tow truck impound for 2 weeks or however long and anyone could have put a decomposing body in it. IMO

[Woostock]

No doubt everyone involved would like to put closure on this case and I suspect (LE) will make a deal with her. WE shall see. I hope and pray that if the ball is in the LE court they get her to confess where the body is.No matter what it takes. Little Caylee deserves that. Remember, they are dealing with a sociopath, and they (sociopaths) lack empathy....

[SaraSidle]

All the results are saying is there was a dead body in the truck. Not whose. Not enough to convict IMO. I believe it will take a lot more than that for Casey to tell us where Caylee is. IMO

[scubadvr99]

Oh no, when I read about the test results, my heart just fell. :( I hope now she will tell them where she is. If she says that isn't from Caylee, then she needs to explain whose dead body was in there.

MOO

[One2Snoop]

Oh no, when I read about the test results, my heart just fell. :( I hope now she will tell them where she is. If she says that isn't from Caylee, then she needs to explain whose dead body was in there.

MOO

FBI said hair found is linked to Caylee.

[SaraSidle]

FBI said hair found is linked to Caylee.

Why do you think FBI would give the info to media not LE/prosecutor office?

[One2Snoop]

Why do you think FBI would give the info to media not LE/prosecutor office?

:shrug: I was just going by what the article said. :seeya:

[dcrc]

Tests Confirm Evidence Of Decomposition In Casey Anthony's Car

POSTED: 4:21 pm EDT August 27, 2008
UPDATED: 7:05 pm EDT August 27, 2008

ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. -- Tests have confirmed the stench in the trunk of Casey Anthony's car did come from a human body and evidence indicates it could be that of missing 3-year-old Caylee Anthony.

Preliminary results were back from FBI tests on physical evidence found in the trunk of Casey Anthony's car. The samples, which included hair that investigators said was scientifically linked to Caylee, a stain and dirt, came back positive for signs of decomposition. Investigators said more test results were expected.

The State Attorney's Office also confirmed on Wednesday that Casey Anthony was invited to their office to shed light on the disappearance of Caylee. The State Attorney's Office is not revealing details about the offer of limited immunity. Eyewitness News has learned there is a time limit on that offer, however.

Investigators from the sheriff's office and the FBI met with Casey Anthony on Wednesday afternoon at her attorney's office. Cindy Anthony was also there. Casey only met with investigators for about 10 minutes and said nothing when she departed. Cindy Anthony left later in the afternoon, followed by the investigators. An investigator went to the Anthony's home but only stayed for a few minutes.

The sheriff's office, though, is not commenting on this development and issued the following statement late Wednesday afternoon: "Preserving the integrity of the investigative details of a case of this magnitude is paramount to its successful conclusion. We are unable to comment any further on information that has recently surfaced regarding the Caylee Anthony investigation. Any future returns in regards to evidence or submissions pertaining to this case will remain privileged or exempt unless the release of such information will be beneficial to the investigation or if it becomes a matter of public record in a legal proceeding."

The Anthonys have disputed the results of the tests, pointing out that Caylee hasn't been found. Casey Anthony's attorney refused to comment. The family was holed up in its home, Wednesday night.
It was Caylee's grandmother Cindy who first expressed concern about the disgusting stench that came from the trunk of Casey's car. It came during a 911 call when she reported Caylee was missing.

"It smells like there was a dead body in the damn car," Cindy told the dispatcher.

Cindy Anthony went on to change her story and say rotting pizza was behind the smell.

Eyewitness News was working to obtain more details on this major development.

http://www.wftv.com/news/17315205/detail.html

What is it going to take for these freaks to admit that Casey murdered their granddaughter? If these disgusting parents would have got Casey professional help years ago their granddaughter might be alive today. I think that they are just as responsible as Casey for the death of little Caylee. If Casey doesn't go to prison for her crime, I hope that she is locked away in a institution for the criminal insane because I think she is insane.:flamemad:

God Bless the angel named Caylee:rose:

[SaraSidle]

:shrug: I was just going by what the article said. :seeya:

I know. I was just wondering. I mean the Prosecutor should decide what to do with evidence and when to release it to media and evidence for discovery to the defense I though. Just wondering??? IMO

One2Snoop thanks for all the articles

[scubadvr99]

Thanks for the updates one2. :seeya:

[One2Snoop]

You're welcome! :rose:

[grneyes]

I was afraid that would be the results. :-(

[scubadvr99]

Odette, glad you are back. Thanks to you for the updates/links also :seeya:

[loulou58]

I just read in the 400+ documents that the car was found at the Amscot place and was abandoned RIGHT BY A DUMPSTER!! That poor baby is long gone...Wonder where that trash is hauled to??? How hard would it have been for her to throw a bag over into the dumpster and abandone the car?? They need to find out where the trash goes once it is hauled away.

I cant imagine any other reason to leave a car right by the dumpster?

[odette]

You're welcome! :rose:

Great work with the updates 02! ty .. :rose:

[odette]

Odette, glad you are back. Thanks to you for the updates/links also :seeya:

hey, hey scuba :seeya: .. ty, ty!

[One2Snoop]

I just read in the 400+ documents that the car was found at the Amscot place and was abandoned RIGHT BY A DUMPSTER!! That poor baby is long gone...Wonder where that trash is hauled to??? How hard would it have been for her to throw a bag over into the dumpster and abandone the car?? They need to find out where the trash goes once it is hauled away.

I cant imagine any other reason to leave a car right by the dumpster?

:eek: Good catch loulou. I'm sure they can track it if need be. I wish Casey would spill the truth for just once.

[One2Snoop]

Casey Anthony Could Have Bond Revoked, May Be Heading Back to Jail (http://www.transworldnews.com/NewsStory.aspx?id=57879&cat=14)

I hope they do revoke her bond - would serve her right. :no:

[SaraSidle]

I hope they do revoke her bond - would serve her right. :no:

I agree but at the same time I now like the feel of her having to look at her parents. maybe she will break now with all the evidence and make a deal to bring Caylee home. So sad. IMO

[dcrc]

I agree but at the same time I now like the feel of her having to look at her parents. maybe she will break now with all the evidence and make a deal to bring Caylee home. So sad. IMO

I do wish she would break and just say where she left Caylee. You are so right, this is very sad.
I think it doesn't bother her to look at her parents. Her child was dead and she was out partying and moved in with her boyfriend. I guess that I will never understand how a mother could kill her own child, it is heartbreaking.

[rosejustrose]

Thank you for all the links, One2Snoop and Odette.

This is such a sad and tragic turn of events. Poor little Caylee:rose::rose:

I pray that they revoke her bail and she goes back to jail for the rest of her life. I think she's too self centered to take the limited immunity deal. Is there any way under FL law she can get the death penalty? JMO

[INGASON14]

Thank you for all the links, One2Snoop and Odette.

This is such a sad and tragic turn of events. Poor little Caylee:rose::rose:

I pray that they revoke her bail and she goes back to jail for the rest of her life. I think she's too self centered to take the limited immunity deal. Is there any way under FL law she can get the death penalty? JMO

Good question Rose. If she did murder this child then she could very well be eligible for the death penalty and I hope they seek it. If she goes to jail, she might not survive in prison. Prisoners don't take to kindly to baby murderers. Cindy needs to be in jail as well in my opinion. Casey wanted to give the baby up and mom said no. Was not Casey old enough to make her own decisions? If Cindy didn't want the baby to be adopted out then why didn't she take custody of Caylee?


***This is just my opinion

[soccermom]

This is horrible news
I kinda figure this would be the results but sad to hear it

Now I hope they dont make a deal with that witch---lesser time in jail if they tell us where that percious girl is. GRRRRRRRRRRRRR she deserves to rot in jail!!!!!!

Thanks for the updates--you guys/gals are super!!!!!

[deacon]

Thank you for all the links, One2Snoop and Odette.

This is such a sad and tragic turn of events. Poor little Caylee:rose::rose:

I pray that they revoke her bail and she goes back to jail for the rest of her life. I think she's too self centered to take the limited immunity deal. Is there any way under FL law she can get the death penalty? JMO

From what I heard last night the limited immunity would only cover not using the words she said against her in court. It would not cover not charging her with a crime. Doubt she takes it. She knows IMO she is guilty and refuses to admit it. In her mind, it is all about her. This is not a mental disorder, IMO, just selfish

[Ruzzty]

This is horrible news
I kinda figure this would be the results but sad to hear it

Now I hope they dont make a deal with that witch---lesser time in jail if they tell us where that percious girl is. GRRRRRRRRRRRRR she deserves to rot in jail!!!!!!

Thanks for the updates--you guys/gals are super!!!!!

+1

I also hope all the Zanada Gonzaleses sue her for slander and defamation!

The city landfill is huge (as you can imagine for a city like ORlando). I hope they ask all workers near that dumpster if they noticed a smell in the dumpster. It could just be a coincidence the car was parked by it. Then again, I have always had a hard time believing that casey has the ability to pick up a shovel and actually do manual labor.

[CindyB]

Good question Rose. If she did murder this child then she could very well be eligible for the death penalty and I hope they seek it. If she goes to jail, she might not survive in prison. Prisoners don't take to kindly to baby murderers. Cindy needs to be in jail as well in my opinion. Casey wanted to give the baby up and mom said no. Was not Casey old enough to make her own decisions? If Cindy didn't want the baby to be adopted out then why didn't she take custody of Caylee?


***This is just my opinion

"If Cindy didn't want the baby to be adopted out then why didn't she take custody of Caylee"?


I keep reading this over and over. I have to reply this time.

We (my husband and I) have been raising our 6 1/2 year old Grand-daughter for the last 5 1/2 years. Her Mom and Dad are still involved in her life, but choose to let her live with us. I have talked to both of them about giving us "actual" custody. They decline to do this. We have also consulted with an attorney who has told us "it's probably best not to make waves". If they (our Grand-daughters parents) were ever to try and take her away from us, that would be the time to start the fight for custody. BUT, as long as they are agreeing to let her live with us, and we believe this is what is best for her, to leave it alone and not push them.
It's very possible that Casey was not willing either to let her parents adopt Caylee also!?
I wonder if this is the same thing Cindy and George were told.

It's not always easy to just get custody like you all may think. JMO

[rosejustrose]

"If Cindy didn't want the baby to be adopted out then why didn't she take custody of Caylee"?


I keep reading this over and over. I have to reply this time.

We (my husband and I) have been raising our 6 1/2 year old Grand-daughter for the last 5 1/2 years. Her Mom and Dad are still involved in her life, but choose to let her live with us. I have talked to both of them about giving us "actual" custody. They decline to do this. We have also consulted with an attorney who has told us "it's probably best not to make waves". If they (our Grand-daughters parents) were ever to try and take her away from us, that would be the time to start the fight for custody. BUT, as long as they are agreeing to let her live with us, and we believe this is what is best for her, to leave it alone and not push them.
It's very possible that Casey was not willing either to let her parents adopt Caylee also!?
I wonder if this is the same thing Cindy and George were told.

It's not always easy to just get custody like you all may think. JMO

It's wonderful that you are such a positive influence in your granddaughter's life and I commend folks who are so selfless that do things like this. In your situation, I agree with the advice you were give. In Caylee's situation, Casey was still living with her parents so in a way the Anthony's were taking care of both of them. I'm not convinced custody was ever an issue in Caylee's case. I just pray she is at peace and that her death was not painful. I can't imagine a 2 year old child looking into the eyes of their mother as she kills her. What a horror.

I wonder why they haven't released Casey's drug and alcohol test results.

JMO.

[SaraSidle]

If she is guilty I would like to see her get the full sentence but I also would like to see Caylee come home. This is too sad. :rose:For Caylee

[rosejustrose]

+1

I also hope all the Zanada Gonzaleses sue her for slander and defamation!

The city landfill is huge (as you can imagine for a city like ORlando). I hope they ask all workers near that dumpster if they noticed a smell in the dumpster. It could just be a coincidence the car was parked by it. Then again, I have always had a hard time believing that casey has the ability to pick up a shovel and actually do manual labor.

Wouldn't it be poetic justice if all the ZG's did sue her. Unfortunately, you can't get blood from a turnip and Casey has nothing.

I just can't imagine she would be so callous as to throw little Caylee's body in a dumpster. That's just too horrible. It's bad enough that she has shown no remorse whatsoever for the loss of Caylee but to think she just tossed her away like garbage is beyond words.

JMO.

[deacon]

Padilla Begins Work To Revoke Anthony's Bond (http://www.wesh.com/news/17321225/detail.html)

And he was soooo sure this was a good idea. Open mouth, remove foot.

[INGASON14]

"If Cindy didn't want the baby to be adopted out then why didn't she take custody of Caylee"?


I keep reading this over and over. I have to reply this time.

We (my husband and I) have been raising our 6 1/2 year old Grand-daughter for the last 5 1/2 years. Her Mom and Dad are still involved in her life, but choose to let her live with us. I have talked to both of them about giving us "actual" custody. They decline to do this. We have also consulted with an attorney who has told us "it's probably best not to make waves". If they (our Grand-daughters parents) were ever to try and take her away from us, that would be the time to start the fight for custody. BUT, as long as they are agreeing to let her live with us, and we believe this is what is best for her, to leave it alone and not push them.
It's very possible that Casey was not willing either to let her parents adopt Caylee also!?
I wonder if this is the same thing Cindy and George were told.

It's not always easy to just get custody like you all may think. JMO

Cindy I meant no disrespect it was just something I was thinking out loud.

Cindy good for you. I am also glad that her parents are in her life. And believe me I know how hard it is as far as custody issues. I have a daughter that we are considering taking away her son from her. It will be a fight and I will probably lose my daughter in the process but we have to look at what is best for this inncoent child so I mean and meant no disrespect to anyone in that position. I guess the problem I have is that Casey wanted to give the baby up and Mom said no. Casey is also to blame because Casey was and is old enough to make those types of decisions herself without her parents interferring.

***This is just my opinion

[beachbum]

How do you as a parent or grandparent support a child in this case-Casey, that has killed your grandaughter. I just dont think I could do it. Especially in this case where the daughter has lied about so much. Can you imagine trying to raise a daughter like Casey. Her teen years must have been hell with all the lying, getting pg and who knows what. But the magnitude of
her careless partying, habitual lying has spiraled into the death of her own daughter and their grandaughter. How do you support that? Do you kick yourself in the butt for not trying to get her some type of help in the early years. They all have to live with this for the rest of their lives except for Caylee and she doesnt get to live. How do you live with this? How do you go into sweet baby Caylee's closet and look at her clothes, look at her toys-how can you knowing that this could have been prevented. What a waste-Caylee's sweet little life. How will the grandparents go on? JMO and my thoughts

[Notknowingall]

This is definitely NOT the news we all would of wanted to hear. But in reality probably KNEW was coming. Maybe once Casey is confronted with FACTS she will open up and tell what really happened. One can hope at least.

[Mojave]

How do you as a parent or grandparent support a child in this case-Casey, that has killed your grandaughter. I just dont think I could do it. Especially in this case where the daughter has lied about so much. Can you imagine trying to raise a daughter like Casey. Her teen years must have been hell with all the lying, getting pg and who knows what. But the magnitude of
her careless partying, habitual lying has spiraled into the death of her own daughter and their grandaughter. How do you support that? Do you kick yourself in the butt for not trying to get her some type of help in the early years. They all have to live with this for the rest of their lives except for Caylee and she doesnt get to live. How do you live with this? How do you go into sweet baby Caylee's closet and look at her clothes, look at her toys-how can you knowing that this could have been prevented. What a waste-Caylee's sweet little life. How will the grandparents go on? JMO and my thoughts

I rather sympathize with the Antonys to some extent. We tend to love our children unconditionally and you expect them to be the good people you are trying to raise. It must be a very, very difficult thing to accept that you may have raised a monster. I imagine they know but they don't want to know, if that makes sense.

[Ruzzty]

Don't forget that when Casey was in jail, her phone conversations with her family and friends were coherent and clear. No sign of mental illness.

Remember.... "Calling you guys, a total waist..." Casey

Just one memorable comment she made. Clearly, she knew what she did and its clear that she was intent on misleading LE. If you truly believe someone took your child, you don't take investigators on a wild goose chase and then ADMIT you lied.

The SPIN has begun!!!!! It was an accident... She's insane.... defense will spin the facts to help this evil woman who clearly knew all along what happened and continues to avoid responsibility. Now her family and lawyer will join her effort. Its criminal folks.... this type of sham must be exposed!

[dcrc]

Good question Rose. If she did murder this child then she could very well be eligible for the death penalty and I hope they seek it. If she goes to jail, she might not survive in prison. Prisoners don't take to kindly to baby murderers. Cindy needs to be in jail as well in my opinion. Casey wanted to give the baby up and mom said no. Was not Casey old enough to make her own decisions? If Cindy didn't want the baby to be adopted out then why didn't she take custody of Caylee?

***This is just my opinion


From what I read, Cindy was seeing a counselor who suggested putting Casey out of the home and trying to get custody of Caylee. It was days later that Casey left home and Caylee was never seen again. I think that George and Cindy would have taken custody of Caylee if there was anyway possible for them to do so. But it seems that Casey would see her child dead before letting this happen.

[dcrc]

Don't forget that when Casey was in jail, her phone conversations with her family and friends were coherent and clear. No sign of mental illness.

Remember.... "Calling you guys, a total waist..." Casey

Just one memorable comment she made. Clearly, she knew what she did and its clear that she was intent on misleading LE. If you truly believe someone took your child, you don't take investigators on a wild goose chase and then ADMIT you lied.

The SPIN has begun!!!!! It was an accident... She's insane.... defense will spin the facts to help this evil woman who clearly knew all along what happened and continues to avoid responsibility. Now her family and lawyer will join her effort. Its criminal folks.... this type of sham must be exposed!


I think Casey is mentally ill but she knows the difference between right and wrong. She's not so sick that she didn't know how to try and cover her monstrous act against Caylee.

[rosejustrose]

RAW INTERVIEW: Leonard Padilla Says They Are Revoking Casey Anthony's Bond (http://www.wftv.com/video/17323447/index.html)

Thank you so much, Odette! I'm so glad you're back, I missed you:rose:

Wow! Casey is going back to jail. Hooray! Too bad the b/i/t/c/h won't tell the truth about what happened to Caylee. I'm just sick to my stomach that she's such a cruel, evil person.

God Bless You, little Caylee. May the angels hold you close:rose:

Poor baby.

[scubadvr99]

http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=cayle

I did not know if this had been posted yet, but this is a site to light a candle for caylee. :rose: