Caylee Anthony Case Discussion Only

[One2Snoop]

Casey Anthony Awaits Grand Jury Decision On Possible Charges

POSTED: 4:31 pm EDT October 13, 2008
UPDATED: 6:19 pm EDT October 13, 2008

ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. -- Monday night could be Casey Anthony's last night of freedom. Eyewitness News is digging into the case against Casey and has obtained new inside information about Tuesday's grand jury testimony and how soon she could be re-arrested.

TUESDAY'S HEARING: No cameras are allowed, but WFTV.com will be updating with details from our team of reporters attending
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http://www.wftv.com/news/17705500/detail.html

[One2Snoop]

Nancy Grace reporting another Bombshell! ~ dress found near airport - is it Caylee's?

[lorettalockhorn]

Nancy Grace reporting another Bombshell! ~ dress found near airport - is it Caylee's?

Just saw that, and Tim Miller reported that it was in good condition.

[applesandorange]

Casey Anthony Awaits Grand Jury Decision On Possible Charges

POSTED: 4:31 pm EDT October 13, 2008
UPDATED: 6:19 pm EDT October 13, 2008

ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. -- Monday night could be Casey Anthony's last night of freedom. Eyewitness News is digging into the case against Casey and has obtained new inside information about Tuesday's grand jury testimony and how soon she could be re-arrested.

TUESDAY'S HEARING: No cameras are allowed, but WFTV.com will be updating with details from our team of reporters attending
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http://www.wftv.com/news/17705500/detail.html


She can't honestly believe what she is saying can she? Cindy actually seems like she really believes everything she is saying. How can she not see the truth that is right under her nose? Is she seriously, honestly in denial? What is going on with her?

[One2Snoop]

Grand jury convenes Tuesday; Baez may be forced off Anthony case
Last Edited: Monday, 13 Oct 2008, 8:31 PM EDT
Created: Monday, 13 Oct 2008, 8:06 PM EDT

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New lead attorney for Casey?

Should Casey face a homicide charge, she could be going to trial with a new lead counsel. FOX 35 has learned from the president of the Criminal Defense Attorney's Association that Baez might not be permitted to represent Anthony in a first degree murder trial.

Richard Hornsby said Baez does not meet the standards set forth by attorneys in capital cases. To be lead counsel you must:

* have had five years experience as an attorney
* served as co-counsel on two death penalty cases
* demonstrated proficiency and commitment which exemplify quality representation in capital cases

However, Baez could still be part of a legal team. Todd Black, spokesperson for Baez, offered this response on Monday:

"It will not change the commitment of the Baez Law Firm and they are fully prepared if an indictment is handed down to represent Ms. Anthony to the fullest."

In an exclusive sit-down interview, FOX 35 reporter Holly Bristow asked Cindy Anthony, mother of Casey, what she planned to do while the grand jury met on Tuesday. "I'm going to be wherever Casey is," she said. "I want to make sure if she's re-arrested, that I'm able to give her one last hug, in case I can't do that for a while."

When asked circumstantial evidence which could be presented to the grand jury, she responded, "George is not concerned. I am not concerned. We're just gonna pray that people have the right sense tomorrow to listen to what they have," she added.

When asked if she ever had any doubts about her daughter's innocence, Cindy responded emphatically, "No!"

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail;jsessionid=61D1C456903E5F5044C800F31E6C501D ?contentId=7637901&version=2&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=1.1.1&sflg=1

[applesandorange]

Good to hear-have fun. I am off on a 6 hr. round road trip to get our son back to school. Home for Thanksgiving. DH off the other way with the other son to the airport-he's is in school in the U.S. I know cant wrap my head around it.


Please drive safely and ask your husband to do the same. Happy Thanksgiving to you and your family!! I always forget you guys celebrate different dates and holidays than us.

[One2Snoop]

How The Grand Jury Process Works

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=7637607&version=1&locale=EN-US

[One2Snoop]

October 13, 2008

Caylee Anthony - The Scoop Behind The Dress

If you watched Nancy Grace tonight, you'll recall that she made a big deal out of the discovery of a dress - similar to a dress of Caylee's - that was "just found" near the airport. During the show, Grace interviewed Tim Miller, who mentioned that the find had been leaked to a "member of the media." I am that "member of the media" and I can provide you with the details of that find.

On Saturday, I received an email from an individual in Florida, who informed me that he was with a group who found a child's dress in an area, not far from the airport - that was identical to the dress that Caylee is wearing in photo #3 at the following web link: www.wftv.com/slideshow/news/17399904/detail.html.

Texas EquuSearch did not make the find. It was found by an independant search group that had helped out in the first search for Caylee.The email went on to describe the item and the fact that the individual had an "exclusive" photo of the dress.

After receiving the email, I contacted Tim to confirm the find. As you can imagine, Tim was quite upset that the information had been leaked. Not only that, but he was also upset because the information the person was providing constituted a direct violation of search and rescue protocol.

Tim told me that the authorities did not believe the dress was connected to the Caylee case. He also said that the dress was "too big" for Caylee. As a result, I chose not to publish that information. The last thing we needed was another media frenzy, at a time in which Tim was trying to determine what to do. Grace has since picked up on the find, which is why I am addressing it now.

I am not going to identify the name of the organization involved, as they should not be judged by the actions of a single person; however, I will say that Tim told me that there are suspicions regarding the origin of that dress and how it ended up in that area.

http://blogs.discovery.com/criminal_report/2008/10/caylee-anthony.html

http://i36.tinypic.com/2pycpkj.jpg

[applesandorange]

Thanks so much-your very kind. Both home and in one piece. Well it shall be interesting to see what happens tomorrow.


I'm so glad you made it home okay. I'm excited to see what today brings. I'm not holding my breath on anything but it will be interesting to see if any new information comes out.

[TLC]

I'm just wondering, on Friday Tim Miller said he met with Nejame(sp)- the Anthony's attorney and went on how wonderful he was etc. He also stated Mr.Nejame (sp) was attempting to get funding for TES through some fund. Then he was arranging meetings between the A's and Miller on Sat. I heard last night Mr.Miller saying meetings were cancelled and C.A won't speak to him. Given that C.A is now commenting to the media once again, have they fired Nejame? If so - do you think it was because of the association with TES?

[beachbum]

I get so sick of hearing Cindy say everything is the media's fault--Casey is the victim. Does she remember she is the one that called the police on Casey-otherwise-no one would probably know Caylee was missing because this family is so dysfunctional. Had she not reported Casey to the authorities-do you think Casey would have kept up this facade of lies to all that know her until someone else became wise to the situation??????? jmo

[applesandorange]

I get so sick of hearing Cindy say everything is the media's fault--Casey is the victim. Does she remember she is the one that called the police on Casey-otherwise-no one would probably know Caylee was missing because this family is so dysfunctional. Had she not reported Casey to the authorities-do you think Casey would have kept up this facade of lies to all that know her until someone else became wise to the situation??????? jmo


IMO if Casey hadn't abandoned the car and if it wasn't towed CA and GA would never have thought anything was wrong. They thought Casey was keeping Caylee from them out of spite. Who knows how long this would have gone on if the car wasn't impounded. I don't think any of her friends would have ever caught on because they were so used to Caylee being with the sitter. It had become common place. The boyfriend admitted that nobody really even asked about Caylee anymore. Everyone just assumed she was with the nanny. I think Casey had everyone in her life so tied up in her web of lies that nobody would have ever imagined this could happen.

[applesandorange]

Everyone's so quiet today. I guess you are all deep in thought. Am I the only one here today?

[applesandorange]

I'm just wondering, on Friday Tim Miller said he met with Nejame(sp)- the Anthony's attorney and went on how wonderful he was etc. He also stated Mr.Nejame (sp) was attempting to get funding for TES through some fund. Then he was arranging meetings between the A's and Miller on Sat. I heard last night Mr.Miller saying meetings were cancelled and C.A won't speak to him. Given that C.A is now commenting to the media once again, have they fired Nejame? If so - do you think it was because of the association with TES?

That's a good question. I hadn't even thought about it. Makes sense though. I hope someone can answer. Would be very interesting to say the least if a good attorney like Nejame was fired because he is helping to support Equusearch.

[beachbum]

Everyone's so quiet today. I guess you are all deep in thought. Am I the only one here today?


Im at work and its kind of busy but I do read thru here along the day.

[Notknowingall]

Everyone's so quiet today. I guess you are all deep in thought. Am I the only one here today?

I am here too. Just sitting and hoping that something happens today with the GJ.

[TLC]

Answering my own question LOL- just saw video of george A with Nejame at the courthouse. I guess he's still their guy- or at least George's. C.A seems like she marches to her own tune most of the time.

[deacon]

Everyone's so quiet today. I guess you are all deep in thought. Am I the only one here today?

I keep looking but not much going on. I think the whole thing is waiting on the grand jury now. Not much else is going to come out before then. I read where most think the dress is a bust as for as helping in this case. It almost sounds like a "plant" to me. Bad if that is the case. It can only hurt.

[applesandorange]

Answering my own question LOL- just saw video of george A with Nejame at the courthouse. I guess he's still their guy- or at least George's. C.A seems like she marches to her own tune most of the time.


Yeah I just seen the updates in the update folder. I think C.A. is just like Casey in believing she can do whatever she wants.

[applesandorange]

Thanks for letting me know I'm not alone guys :seeya: I think we are all anxiously waiting on the G.J. verdict. Nice seeing all of you this morning.

[TLC]

I hadn't heard this before:

Channel 9 reported that chloroform was found in the trunk of Casey's car and jurors will hear how investigators found that potentially deadly chemical in the same spot where Caylee's body had been at one point.

http://www.wftv.com/news/17705500/detail.html

I knew about the trunk and the chemical but not from the backyard.

[applesandorange]

Guess i better go vote-painfull day all around :eek: Hopefully some news when i return:beer:

I hope there is something new for you to discuss when you get back. I don't think I'm voting this year. I'm too undecided.

[applesandorange]

I hadn't heard this before:



http://www.wftv.com/news/17705500/detail.html

I knew about the trunk and the chemical but not from the backyard.


I think they are meaning in the same spot of the trunk that Caylee was in. Not the backyard. IMO.

[TLC]

oh ok- thanks. I read this as well- it sort of speaks a lot to what she is thinking IMO:

Casey appeared to be dressed more formally than normal, in pin-stripped slacks and a button-down shirt. There's no telling if her attorney suggested that attire because of the possibility that she could soon be appearing in another mug shot.

[applesandorange]

She knows she's going down. She knows her game is over. She will never tell where Caylee is though because that's the only piece of power she has left.

[samanthajane13]

" Originally Posted by applesandorange View Post
Everyone's so quiet today. I guess you are all deep in thought. Am I the only one here today?"

Nope-I'm here, too.

I'm busy 'over-lapping"-as my mom would say.

I'm reading this board, ordering 10 new geckos for my breeding colony, loading pictures to PhotoBucket, checking my email, and doing laundry for Katey the Clothes Horse.

I hope she's indicted.

Caylee needs a proper burial and JUSTICE!!!

[applesandorange]

" Originally Posted by applesandorange View Post
Everyone's so quiet today. I guess you are all deep in thought. Am I the only one here today?"

Nope-I'm here, too.

I'm busy 'over-lapping"-as my mom would say.

I'm reading this board, ordering 10 new geckos for my breeding colony, loading pictures to PhotoBucket, checking my email, and doing laundry for Katey the Clothes Horse.

I hope she's indicted.

Caylee needs a proper burial and JUSTICE!!!


Hi Samantha. You're doing kinda what I was doing earlier. I already have all my cleaning done and my little one has been busy watching Discovery Kids so I now have free time on here. Geckos... how cool! I was thinking of getting one as a pet.

ITA Caylee needs a proper burial and justice!! Hopefully today she will begin to get the justice.

[applesandorange]

Did anyone read over in the update only folder where GA asks for everyone to pray for Caylee at 11:00 this morning and tonight? I don't know how to post it here. He asks for prayers at both 11:00s and states that is all he can say. I wonder what 11:00 means? Why would he choose that time?

[applesandorange]

"This is going to be very hard for me to do. The focus has always been on my granddaughter and always will be. I love my daughter, I love my wife, I love my son. I want everyone to have prayer for all of us today, especially for my granddaughter. If someone could take a moment out at 11 o'clock this morning and 11 o'clock tonight and just pray for her. That's all I'm asking for. That's all I can say," George said Tuesday morning.

That's the statement I'm talking about. I copied it from wftv news.

[applesandorange]

Thats too wierd considering i was just in chapel. Mine was after 11:00 but all good. Yes what the heck could that mean. Why today? May mean nothing????


It may mean nothing but then why pick a time? Why not just ask for a prayer to be given at some time today? He chose that time for a reason IMO. I have heard people ask " if sometime during today you could stop for a moment and say a prayer for a certain person" but the only time I have heard of a certain time being chosen was when something tragic happened at that exact time. I could be totally wrong on this. JMO.

[beachbum]

I keep looking but not much going on. I think the whole thing is waiting on the grand jury now. Not much else is going to come out before then. I read where most think the dress is a bust as for as helping in this case. It almost sounds like a "plant" to me. Bad if that is the case. It can only hurt.

On NG she kept trying to get Tim Miller to pinpoint where the search would be and Im thinking to myself-please dont do that-someone will for sure put things out there so we will think they pertain to the case. I just had hoped they would keep it quiet where they were searching and hoping they
would find legitimate things that might really help the case. '

As for work, my bosses are in and out all day-they have 2 offices and come and go all day and usually go do other things and are offsite so we are pretty much left here alone. They have never said you cant do this or that and we do our work and that is all they care about. My work is kind of seasonal so they gave us the net to use. Most of the guys read sports and have fantasy football going so I dont see any difference in reading a blog about a court case. I used to work for 2 attys and law is just interesting to me.

[applesandorange]

Just a guess but maybe it has hit him Casey will be charged today or very soon and he realizes that any search for a live Caylee are over? MOO The only prayer that family will get out of me is for Caylee,LE,Tim and his Team etc. I cant pray for any of the rest of them right now. As far as Casey goes i pray she gets what she deserves.


I agree. I will not pray for Casey except if it's for her to get what's coming to her. I think George has finally accepted that Caylee is dead. I get the feeling from him that he is willing to do what's right by law and for Caylee but at the same time he might be telling Casey and Cindy what they have is all circumstancial. He may even be telling Casey to keep her mouth shut because of that. I don't think he wants to do wrong by law but at the same time if he believes that what happened to Caylee was an accident he doesn't want Casey to get charged with murder either. I'd even be willing to bet he's afraid that if he says too much his whole family will disown him.

[applesandorange]

On NG she kept trying to get Tim Miller to pinpoint where the search would be and Im thinking to myself-please dont do that-someone will for sure put things out there so we will think they pertain to the case. I just had hoped they would keep it quiet where they were searching and hoping they
would find legitimate things that might really help the case. '

As for work, my bosses are in and out all day-they have 2 offices and come and go all day and usually go do other things and are offsite so we are pretty much left here alone. They have never said you cant do this or that and we do our work and that is all they care about. My work is kind of seasonal so they gave us the net to use. Most of the guys read sports and have fantasy football going so I dont see any difference in reading a blog about a court case. I used to work for 2 attys and law is just interesting to me.

I felt bad for Tim Miller on NG last night. He didn't look well. Maybe it was just me but he just didn't seem well. I don't know. It did make me feel bad about my vent yesterday. I hope he's keeping up with his health while he looks for everyone else. I hope he has someone looking after him.

You are LUCKY!! I know so many people who would love to have your job.

[samanthajane13]

"Geckos... how cool! I was thinking of getting one as a pet."

Hey-Beemeup-

I'm going to post a few pix of my "scale-kids" and a link for you over in the Lounge!

Hugs-
Donna

[beachbum]

I agree. I will not pray for Casey except if it's for her to get what's coming to her. I think George has finally accepted that Caylee is dead. I get the feeling from him that he is willing to do what's right by law and for Caylee but at the same time he might be telling Casey and Cindy what they have is all circumstancial. He may even be telling Casey to keep her mouth shut because of that. I don't think he wants to do wrong by law but at the same time if he believes that what happened to Caylee was an accident he doesn't want Casey to get charged with murder either. I'd even be willing to bet he's afraid that if he says too much his whole family will disown him.


ITAWY think George is trying to do the right thing-Im sure Cindy has badgered him about it but he was in law inforcement before -he knows its the right thing to do. For heavens sake someone in that family take up for the baby Caylee and not Casey-she brought on her daughters death in some matter and it started all with her lies. I always heard you tell one lie, well you tell another one cause you have to lie to cover the other lie and her whole life was just lies and deception and you know Casey was just hurting herself and now her baby is gone because of her selfishness. jmo

[applesandorange]

"Geckos... how cool! I was thinking of getting one as a pet."

Hey-Beemeup-

I'm going to post a few pix of my "scale-kids" and a link for you over in the Lounge!

Hugs-
Donna


Thanks! How do I get to the lounge to check out the pics? I LOVE Lizards!! It was me you were talking to right? You quoted me.

[applesandorange]

ITAWY think George is trying to do the right thing-Im sure Cindy has badgered him about it but he was in law inforcement before -he knows its the right thing to do. For heavens sake someone in that family take up for the baby Caylee and not Casey-she brought on her daughters death in some matter and it started all with her lies. I always heard you tell one lie, well you tell another one cause you have to lie to cover the other lie and her whole life was just lies and deception and you know Casey was just hurting herself and now her baby is gone because of her selfishness. jmo

Well stated. Caylee was the inocent one in all of this. Somebody from the family needs to speak up for her.

[beachbum]

Well stated. Caylee was the inocent one in all of this. Somebody from the family needs to speak up for her.

I just read on Fox news that Baez said Casey is naturally nervous about the hearing. No duh! Baez and Casey wouldnt be attending.

[Brainstorm]

Just a guess but maybe it has hit him Casey will be charged today or very soon and he realizes that any search for a live Caylee are over? MOO The only prayer that family will get out of me is for Caylee,LE,Tim and his Team etc. I cant pray for any of the rest of them right now. As far as Casey goes i pray she gets what she deserves.

I pray that Gods will be done.I pray that HE will open their hearts and minds to the TRUTH.
God gave her the most precious gift, a child, and look whats she done with that gift.
I am so angry and disgusted at that whole family(which,Im sure,pleases the devil), SO....Im just going to continue to pray,for GODs WILL, and watch and wait.
God Bless the searchers & LE, that are having to deal with this personally.
imo

[beachbum]

I know a bit back when he was on N.G. he looked so exhausted. The work must get to him. I have no idea how he does it. We have all said things we regret-no worries. Lordy i know i have.:beer:

Im sure it stirs up old memories for him too about the loss of his own daughter.

[samanthajane13]

"Thanks! How do I get to the lounge to check out the pics? I LOVE Lizards!! It was me you were talking to right? You quoted me."

Yes-A&O-I meant you...Sorry-Beemeup...

I have an occasional "brain-fart" when I'm doing 20 things at once...LOL!

Sorry for the confusion-I'll PM you a link to the post when i'm doine loading the pictures...

[deacon]

I think they are meaning in the same spot of the trunk that Caylee was in. Not the backyard. IMO.

I had to go back and read it again. I would agree with you. When I first read it I thought they found it in the backyard somewhere. Now, if they did find it in the backyard, there goes the "accident" thought. No accident if they found it in two locations.

I continue to believe that Caylee was killed on purpose and that chloroform was the selected murder weapon. If she did research on that chemical she would have seen it is a carcenegen(sp). It causes cancer. That says to me, at least, it was intentional

[mu8shark]

I hadn't heard this before:



http://www.wftv.com/news/17705500/detail.html

I knew about the trunk and the chemical but not from the backyard. I came over here to see if anyone had reported on this because this is the first I had seen of it and it reinforces my idea that Casey chloroformed her and temporarily put her body in the backyard and the shovel was to dig it up. Also I have been looking around about child sizes and apparently that dress photo was of Caylee much younger so a size six is way off and I totally agree it sounds like a plant, not by the police but some overzealous person in the public, which is just going to complicate things.

[lorettalockhorn]

I felt bad for Tim Miller on NG last night. He didn't look well. Maybe it was just me but he just didn't seem well. I don't know. It did make me feel bad about my vent yesterday. I hope he's keeping up with his health while he looks for everyone else. I hope he has someone looking after him.

You are LUCKY!! I know so many people who would love to have your job.

Tim's job must surely takes its toll and conjure up bad memories, and he does seem to be very busy, unfortunately. This is a great place to vent, and if it's any consolation, I have a few infractions to show for my own venting.

[joekuhl79]

Okay, I don't know much about the grand jury process...but I do know it involves prosecutors showing evidence they have to convince for a case.

It seems to me that it is taking a long time. Would that mean that there is evidence they are presenting that hasn't been made public yet?



I think George is as much a victim in this as Caylee...he's been trying to be supportive though he knows how these things turn out.



Cindys comment about Casey being a 'victim'?! Any last hope that I had that Cindy is/was not at the very least an idiot - at most an accomplice - is GONE! Someone get the duct tape around her mouth!



Baez=LOSER! What a half-wit, bottom-rung attorney! If Casey keeps him on if she's charged with murder, she'll be easily found guilty.



I think Tim Miller needs a long vacation. He didn't look or sound too good.

[mu8shark]

Also on George today is the first day I have contemplated what a spot he is in. Maybe it is just my imagination but something seems to have changed in his attitude. I think he realizes the truth and he is probably in hell with Casey and Cindy. I mean I know some still feel sorry for Cindy but I have to tell you I think , to use an old fashioned word, she is a dreadful woman. She is still saying Casey is a victim, just like Caylee. I know this is crude and maybe inappropriate but I don't quite see Casey as just like Caylee, Caylee is laying somewhere rotting, while Casey has been sitting around on the comp with her friends and watching HBO. I just don't quite see the comparison.

[mu8shark]

I am a bit confused on the interpretation thru the article. Either they are still talking about the chloroform in the trunk or perhaps it's a leak of info that it was found also in the yard. That would def. support LE's theories. I am sure much more we dont know. Yes i do believe the dress was a cruel hoax on behalf of someone with way too much time on their hands.:rose:
Yeah, I wonder if the article is just not written clearly or LE did not make it clear. The thing about the dress is some defense lawyer will try to say other evidence was planted. Stupid, stupid people.

[joekuhl79]

I came over here to see if anyone had reported on this because this is the first I had seen of it and it reinforces my idea that Casey chloroformed her and temporarily put her body in the backyard and the shovel was to dig it up. Also I have been looking around about child sizes and apparently that dress photo was of Caylee much younger so a size six is way off and I totally agree it sounds like a plant, not by the police but some overzealous person in the public, which is just going to complicate things.

I agree with what A&O pointed out...they're referring to the chloroform being 'where Caylee was' as in the trunk.

Dress size? My 5 (almost 6) year old daughter is average size and weight for her age, and she wears a size 6. Caylee, from the pictures, looks to be a fairly small 2-3 year old. I wouldn't imagine that she'd wear more than a 3 or 4...but I do recall the LE paperwork stating that they took size 5 clothes from the Anthonys house.

[mu8shark]

Okay, I don't know much about the grand jury process...but I do know it involves prosecutors showing evidence they have to convince for a case.

It seems to me that it is taking a long time. Would that mean that there is evidence they are presenting that hasn't been made public yet?



I think George is as much a victim in this as Caylee...he's been trying to be supportive though he knows how these things turn out.



Cindys comment about Casey being a 'victim'?! Any last hope that I had that Cindy is/was not at the very least an idiot - at most an accomplice - is GONE! Someone get the duct tape around her mouth!



Baez=LOSER! What a half-wit, bottom-rung attorney! If Casey keeps him on if she's charged with murder, she'll be easily found guilty.



I think Tim Miller needs a long vacation. He didn't look or sound too good.
Actually one day is a short time for a grand jury. Some go on weeks. But I think they are presenting a bare bones case to keep some remaining things quiet. By the way I have not seen the coverage of people walking in.Is Casey there? It sounds like from what some were saying she is there.

[lorettalockhorn]

Okay, I don't know much about the grand jury process...but I do know it involves prosecutors showing evidence they have to convince for a case.

It seems to me that it is taking a long time. Would that mean that there is evidence they are presenting that hasn't been made public yet?



I think George is as much a victim in this as Caylee...he's been trying to be supportive though he knows how these things turn out.



Cindys comment about Casey being a 'victim'?! Any last hope that I had that Cindy is/was not at the very least an idiot - at most an accomplice - is GONE! Someone get the duct tape around her mouth!



Baez=LOSER! What a half-wit, bottom-rung attorney! If Casey keeps him on if she's charged with murder, she'll be easily found guilty.



I think Tim Miller needs a long vacation. He didn't look or sound too good.

You rang?! :hat:

If and when Casey is charged with a capital crime, she will have a new attorney (or two. Or more.) In addition to Baez.

[joekuhl79]

I am sure lots of evidence we are not privy to. Baez cant remain her lawyer if she is charged with Murder 1-he does not meet the criteria of experience. T.H's have said he may remain on the team not lead counsel. Time will tell

I just read an article that said that she could choose to keep him, but she had to be informed in court that he doesn't meet the criteria to defend her for such a case.

Same as how she could choose to represent herself...the court would advise her that it's a bad idea...

[lorettalockhorn]

Also on George today is the first day I have contemplated what a spot he is in. Maybe it is just my imagination but something seems to have changed in his attitude. I think he realizes the truth and he is probably in hell with Casey and Cindy. I mean I know some still feel sorry for Cindy but I have to tell you I think , to use an old fashioned word, she is a dreadful woman. She is still saying Casey is a victim, just like Caylee. I know this is crude and maybe inappropriate but I don't quite see Casey as just like Caylee, Caylee is laying somewhere rotting, while Casey has been sitting around on the comp with her friends and watching HBO. I just don't quite see the comparison.

Casey is the victim of bad psychological makeup and overly indulgent parents. I truly believe that G&C's negligence plays a huge role in what happened to Caylee. I'd love to see them prosecuted for conspiracy to obstruct justice. Of course, George may have turned over a new leaf at this point. Too little. Too late.

[joekuhl79]

Actually one day is a short time for a grand jury. Some go on weeks. But I think they are presenting a bare bones case to keep some remaining things quiet. By the way I have not seen the coverage of people walking in.Is Casey there? It sounds like from what some were saying she is there.

Casey is at Baez' office. She appears to be dressed pretty sharp, in case she has another mugshot taken today!

It was reported that George was at the GJ (obviously) and that they were hearing from the canine handlers...

[joekuhl79]

You rang?! :hat:



I did! LOL!

[mu8shark]

I hear what u are saying but would love clarification on it. Clear clarification from the somewhere. Where Caylee was can be interpreted by meaning again the trunk or elsewhere. It's just when it comes to the news i dont always trust what is said when left open to interpretation. Hopefully we can get it clarified. Maybe the size 5 clothing they took from the house was Casey's. She sure liked to wear some tight stuff. Maybe a woman's size 5?? Just a thought. Not to contradict the earlier poster but yes I just goggled for info, a shortcut I realize and it said in the hits of both articles that earlier they seized Caseys clothes size 5 and a childs backpack. So I think it is Casey that wears size 5

[lorettalockhorn]

From today's press conference:

Baez wrapped up the press conference by saying:

"When we have finally spoken, everyone will say: 'now I understand.'"

http://blogs.discovery.com/criminal_report/2008/10/casey-anthony-p.html?cid=134709359#comments

Don't know about y'all, but why would it take Casey being indicted/charged and/or tried for us to understand? Just spill it.

[mu8shark]

An update from WFTV" By 2:30pm, the final witness was testifying. Orange County Sheriff's Office Detective Yuri Melich has served as the lead investigator for the case. After his testimony is completed, the Grand Jury will begin deliberations."

[lorettalockhorn]

Yep that is pretty much where i am at now with all of this. Nothing more-nothing less. How could anyone have a daughter live under their roof and take all that crap. At the very least if she never wanted to come forth with a phone number or address for the Nanny in an Emergency-good gawd follow her do whatever you have to do to find out whats going on and make her own up to it. Classic example from George's own mouth was when Casey shoved the gas cans at him and muttered some obsenity. That would be a cold day in hell!! I would have snatched those car key's from her little digit's and taken back that car and told her to get on a bus from here on. I am sure she used Caylee as a threat but what the he.. they paid for everything anyway's. Then promptly intervene with the court's on Caylee's behalf. They had her most of the time,fed her and provided for her. I wish they would have looked out for her best interest. You cant tell me those parent's did not suspect she had no job etc. Another vent :rose:

G&C are oblivious. You have to wonder if Casey had a checking account; if she ever received a monthly bank statement, or a W2 form(s) at the end of the year, or filled out an income tax return, and if she did, if she took a child care credit. Just don't see how this chit escaped them.

Did anyone, anyone really really give a rat's patootie about Caylee?

[mu8shark]

Thanks for all your info. Lets hope G.J. deliberations are short. I would think so since it is really all one sided evidence. MOO You are welcome. I have my own true crime yahoo group but I come over here sometimes too and it just seems like a nice group of people here.

[lorettalockhorn]

Caylee Anthony Geographical profile from David Lohr's blog:

Godwin told Investigation Discovery that the profile "predicts with a high degree of probability that Caylee's body will be found near Narcoossee Road just SW of the grandparents' home."

http://www.drmauricegodwin.com/Caylee%20Anthony%20Geo%20Profile.htm

http://blogs.discovery.com/criminal_report/2008/10/caylee-anthon-1.html

[applesandorange]

I took a nap with my little boy. I see we are still waiting. Hopefully by the time I go to my older son's football game tonight and come home there will be some news. I'm hoping to be home by 10 to see the second airing of NG.

I just wanted to also say everyone has made great points and really has put their heart into this case. I don't understand how we as complete strangers have so much feeling for Caylee and her own family doesn't. Makes me sick.

To Mr. Baez saying that when they finally speak we will all understand. Well what kind of a lawyer lets his clients case go the whole way to the grand jury and possibly be charged with murder and put back in prison if they have some kind of information that would make us go "OH I SEE"? GET REAL BAEZ!! If you had anything that was worth a damn Casey would NOT be possibly tried on murder charges. What attorney in their right mind would put their client through that just to come out in the end? He makes NO sense.

[applesandorange]

Smart girl-I should have napped-instead i am on my 2nd piece of apple pie-oh well. Def. a venting frustrating day. Between this and i might add a very good read i have been absorbed in i think the 2 are not a good balance right now. So i shall put my book away for now. It's called 19 minutes and its very much a roller coaster ride as well. So i shall sit here and eat pie :beer:

Slide a piece of pie this way please. I love apple pie. I'm now getting ready to get a shower and then will leave around 4:45 for football. If I don't get to talk to you again till later enjoy that pie :beer:

[deacon]

Casey is the victim of bad psychological makeup and overly indulgent parents. I truly believe that G&C's negligence plays a huge role in what happened to Caylee. I'd love to see them prosecuted for conspiracy to obstruct justice. Of course, George may have turned over a new leaf at this point. Too little. Too late.

One thing on which we disagree. I think it is a personality problem, no psychological make up. There is, in my opinion, a psychological problem here just a personality problem. She has a personality that cares only for herself and no one else. Thus the comment she made about herself being a "controlling b-----"

[deacon]

G&C are oblivious. You have to wonder if Casey had a checking account; if she ever received a monthly bank statement, or a W2 form(s) at the end of the year, or filled out an income tax return, and if she did, if she took a child care credit. Just don't see how this chit escaped them.

Did anyone, anyone really really give a rat's patootie about Caylee?

Sadly, no. I think the people on here care more for her and we never knew her.

[One2Snoop]

snip
I have a few infractions to show for my own venting.

LOL - Infractions?! Aren't you glad we've all graduated from kindergarten? :tongue: :beer:

[lorettalockhorn]

Baez is about to get shoved to the back burner soon anyway. If Murder 1 comes down some hot shot will come out of the woodwork. Or Mommy and Daddy will beg borrow or steal from whatever little they have left to buy her a good defense-Yep nothin but the best for our daughter. Wonder if Mark Gerago's (sp?) is free??? Baez will be shoved out of the limelight and hate it as much as Shapiro did. MOO

Doesn't Geragos have a bad track record defending mama's girls? Er uh mama's boys?

[lorettalockhorn]

LOL - Infractions?! Aren't you glad we've all graduated from kindergarten? :tongue: :beer:

HAH! They all expired a year ago, so I guess they just sit on the page as a deterrent. At any rate, I should shut it in case someone is desperate for a job. :eek:

[applesandorange]

Tim's job must surely takes its toll and conjure up bad memories, and he does seem to be very busy, unfortunately. This is a great place to vent, and if it's any consolation, I have a few infractions to show for my own venting.


Agree. Tim is a man who puts other before himself. Sadly sooner or later this will affect his health. I do hope he takes care of himself. I hated seeing him like that last night. My vent yesterday was just misplaced frustration. I'm sure we all say things we wish we hadn't later. I hope there are no hard feelings. :beer:

[mu8shark]

ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. -- The Orange County Grand Jury finished its deliberations around 3:40pm Tuesday and is expected to publicly announce whether or not they are handing up an indictment against Casey Anthony. Casey Anthony's lawyer conceded earlier Tuesday that it was likely the grand jury would return some sort of indictment against his client in connection with the death of 2-year-old Caylee Anthony.


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Orange County Sheriff's Office Detective Yuri Melich, who has served as the lead investigator for the case, was the final witness and the Grand Jury began deliberations around 3:00pm.

Casey Anthony could be re-arrested Tuesday for murder, depending on the outcome of a grand jury meeting. Prosecutors are trying to get a murder indictment against her for the death of her daughter, Caylee.



BAEZ BOOTS WFTV

At an afternoon news conference, that WFTV was kicked out of (BOOTED: See Images | Watch Raw Video), Jose Baez was somber as he used the word "inevitable" to characterize what he expected from Tuesday's hearing

[One2Snoop]

Agree. Tim is a man who puts other before himself. Sadly sooner or later this will affect his health. I do hope he takes care of himself. I hated seeing him like that last night. My vent yesterday was just misplaced frustration. I'm sure we all say things we wish we hadn't later. I hope there are no hard feelings. :beer:

Yes we do ~ I'm guilty of it too. Here's to moving forward! :beer: :rose:

[lorettalockhorn]

Agree. Tim is a man who puts other before himself. Sadly sooner or later this will affect his health. I do hope he takes care of himself. I hated seeing him like that last night. My vent yesterday was just misplaced frustration. I'm sure we all say things we wish we hadn't later. I hope there are no hard feelings. :beer:

Aww thanks! Lord help me if spending time here gets/keeps me riled up. Not very thin skinned, although I do try not to be completely insensitive. But there is one cretin here......

Never mind. :beer:

[One2Snoop]

From today's press conference:

Baez wrapped up the press conference by saying:

"When we have finally spoken, everyone will say: 'now I understand.'"

http://blogs.discovery.com/criminal_report/2008/10/casey-anthony-p.html?cid=134709359#comments

Don't know about y'all, but why would it take Casey being indicted/charged and/or tried for us to understand? Just spill it.

Remember the story that came out last week that there was a picture with Zanny, Casey and Caylee and the PI was hot on the trail of the man who had the pic? Wonder whatever came of that? :cool: :rolleyes:

[mu8shark]

Thanks so much Shark. Here we go. Please let this be the start of justice for Caylee:rose::rose::rose::rose:Ijust saw on headline news the judge announcing the grand jury has made their decision and it will be sealed until such time as the defendant is taken into custody and then it will be announced. His exact words.

[lorettalockhorn]

Yes we do ~ I'm guilty of it too. Here's to moving forward! :beer: :rose:



GROUP CHUG EVERYONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



:beer: :beer: :beer:

[mu8shark]

Remember the story that came out last week that there was a picture with Zanny, Casey and Caylee and the PI was hot on the trail of the man who had the pic? Wonder whatever came of that? :cool: :rolleyes: If that indeed was Caylee the defense lawyer would be compelled to turn it over to police as otherwise he would be impeding an investigation. I think if that were such a great lead we would have heard more about it.

[One2Snoop]

LIVE: Anthony Grand Jury Announcement
Last Edited: Tuesday, 14 Oct 2008, 3:49 PM EDT
Created: Tuesday, 14 Oct 2008, 3:49 PM EDT

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail?contentId=7479175&version=11&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=1.1.1

[lorettalockhorn]

Remember the story that came out last week that there was a picture with Zanny, Casey and Caylee and the PI was hot on the trail of the man who had the pic? Wonder whatever came of that? :cool: :rolleyes:

Wouldn't before the grand jury have been a good time to take that information to LE and ask for their help in locating "The Real Kidnappiing Zanny"?

Ijust saw on headline news the judge announcing the grand jury has made their decision and it will be sealed until such time as the defendant is taken into custody and then it will be announced. His exact words.

So if we're waiting for the defendant to be taken into custody, does that mean an true bill of indictment?

[lorettalockhorn]

Per David Lohr:

http://blogs.discovery.com/criminal_report/2008/10/casey-anthony-2.html

And that was a short deliberation, eh?

http://blogs.discovery.com/criminal_report/2008/10/casey-anthony-i.html

[One2Snoop]

Per David Lohr:

http://blogs.discovery.com/criminal_report/2008/10/casey-anthony-2.html

And that was a short deliberation, eh?

http://blogs.discovery.com/criminal_report/2008/10/casey-anthony-i.html

:beer: Be sure to post this in the news updates thread. Thanks.

[One2Snoop]

Grand Jury Returns Indictment
Tuesday, October 14, 2008 4:06:58 PM

ORLANDO -- A grand jury has returned an indictment for a capital crime in the disappearance of Caylee Anthony.

However, the indictment has been sealed and the defendant's name will not be released until that person is in custody. Because the count is a capital offense, she will not be allowed bail.
snip

http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2008/10/14/casey_anthony_could_face_new_homicide_charges.html

[applesandorange]

:beer: Be sure to post this in the news updates thread. Thanks.

WOO FREAKIN HOO!!! B/I/T/C/H is going DOWN!!! Okay now I gotta run.

:beer:

Oh heck everyone have a drink on me
:beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer:
:beer::beer::

[lorettalockhorn]

:beer: Be sure to post this in the news updates thread. Thanks.

:seeya: Consider it done! (Wasn't thinking.)

[One2Snoop]

GROUP CHUG EVERYONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



:beer: :beer: :beer:

WOO FREAKIN HOO!!! B/I/T/C/H is going DOWN!!! Okay now I gotta run.

:beer:

Oh heck everyone have a drink on me
:beer::beer::beer::beer:

:beer: :beer:

[deacon]

He sure does-thats why i figure he might be free. He is good at spin and not showing up for sentencing. Not denying anyone the right to good legal representation. Thought he might have lots of free time and for some strange reason i think he would get on quite well with the Anthony's. He and Casey have the same little swagger in their walk now that i recall. Oh my i am going to hell in a handbasket :D

I just hope his doen't "swagger" as much as her's does. *slaps own hand*

[beachbum]

WOO FREAKIN HOO!!! B/I/T/C/H is going DOWN!!! Okay now I gotta run.

:beer:

Oh heck everyone have a drink on me
:beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer:
:beer::beer::


Hallelujah

[One2Snoop]

:seeya: Consider it done! (Wasn't thinking.)

No problemo - I just like to keep of copy of everything in the updates thread because it makes it easier to find if someone is looking for something specific. :patriot:

[lorettalockhorn]

No problemo - I just like to keep of copy of everything in the updates thread because it makes it easier to find if someone is looking for something specific. :patriot:

It's just so unusual for me to find something that you'uns haven't already posted. Great job, and I agree it's a fabu idea to have a chronology.

[deacon]

Well, here we go. I just wonder if anything new will come out now. Hmmmm

[lorettalockhorn]

Anthony was reportedly with her mother, in route from her attorney's office, when investigators stopped the car on Boggy Creek Road and escorted her into a marked vehicle, presumable for transportation to the county jail.

http://blogs.discovery.com/criminal_report/2008/10/casey-anthony-b.html

[mu8shark]

I just hope his doen't "swagger" as much as her's does. *slaps own hand*Personally, I think Geragos is overrated. He won a case for a gangster a long while back and since has attached himself to some big profile cases which failed miserably. While I realize most defense attorneys lose most of their cases., he has really pulled some bone headed moves, remember Winona Ryder who he said was researching a part where she played a thief and in the Peterson case, he was going to prove Scott Peterson was factually innocent and he floated the satantic cult theory. HE is worthy of a few SNL Skits.

[One2Snoop]

http://i36.tinypic.com/wanhud.jpg
Casey Anthony cries during a press
conference held by her attorney Jose Baez
(Red Huber, Orlando Sentinel)

[CindyB]

WOO FREAKIN HOO!!! B/I/T/C/H is going DOWN!!! Okay now I gotta run.

:beer:

Oh heck everyone have a drink on me
:beer::beer::beer::beer::
OMG...YAY...Nothing could have made my day more than this news!!!
:D:beer::D:beer::D

[INGASON14]

http://i36.tinypic.com/wanhud.jpg
Casey Anthony cries during a press
conference held by her attorney Jose Baez
(Red Huber, Orlando Sentinel)

Oh poor baby crying cause she is going to jail. Why Me Why Me. What about her daughter Caylee.

[One2Snoop]

Anthony was reportedly with her mother, in route from her attorney's office, when investigators stopped the car on Boggy Creek Road and escorted her into a marked vehicle, presumable for transportation to the county jail.

http://blogs.discovery.com/criminal_report/2008/10/casey-anthony-b.html

I wonder why she even bothered to leave Baez's office? LOL. Maybe she was going to attempt to escape. :cool: :tongue:

[One2Snoop]

Oh poor baby crying cause she is going to jail. Why Me Why Me. What about her daughter Caylee.

Exactly Ingason.

[mu8shark]

I don't get this. Why is it unfair to search? Here is a blurb from WFTV. Also press conference coming on Headline news. "ORGANIZATION DECIDES AGAINST SEARCHING AGAIN

The grand jury proceedings have convinced the founder of EquuSearch that the timing is not right to begin another search for Caylee Anthony's body.


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VIDEO REPORT: Group Not Searching For Caylee Anthony
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"Do we go ahead and put a lot more resources out there when the conditions are not right? And the other thing is still having a tremendous amount of compassion for the Anthony family," said Tim Miller, the organization leader.

Miller said he's leaving town, saying it would be unfair to the Anthonys to conduct a search right now.

[Ruzzty]

Life with a child... fun, memorable, exciting, difficult, exhausting, challenging, cherishing, loving, Graduations, Birthdays, Weddings, Reunions, everything!

Life behind bars.............................................. .................death !


I'd pick the first option over the alternative any day!

[lorettalockhorn]

We are now getting reports that a total of seven counts have been handed down in the case of Casey Anthony and her missing 2-year-old daughter, Caylee Anthony. Three of the counts are allegedly for first degree murder, aggrivated child abuse and manslaughter. According to Wesh.com, the other four counts involve Anthony's alleged lies to investigators.

http://blogs.discovery.com/criminal_report/2008/10/seven-counts-ha.html

[lorettalockhorn]

I don't get this. Why is it unfair to search? Here is a blurb from WFTV. Also press conference coming on Headline news. "ORGANIZATION DECIDES AGAINST SEARCHING AGAIN

The grand jury proceedings have convinced the founder of EquuSearch that the timing is not right to begin another search for Caylee Anthony's body.


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
VIDEO REPORT: Group Not Searching For Caylee Anthony
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"Do we go ahead and put a lot more resources out there when the conditions are not right? And the other thing is still having a tremendous amount of compassion for the Anthony family," said Tim Miller, the organization leader.

Miller said he's leaving town, saying it would be unfair to the Anthonys to conduct a search right now.

I haven't read the report you refer to and don't understand where the word unfair came from, but what I understand from Tim Miller is that conditions are simply not favorable to searching without missing (skipping over) evidence or destroying evidence due to the weather.

[One2Snoop]

We are now getting reports that a total of seven counts have been handed down in the case of Casey Anthony and her missing 2-year-old daughter, Caylee Anthony. Three of the counts are allegedly for first degree murder, aggrivated child abuse and manslaughter. According to Wesh.com, the other four counts involve Anthony's alleged lies to investigators.

:confused: I don't understand? First degree murder and manslaughter? :shrug:

[lorettalockhorn]

http://blogs.discovery.com/criminal_report/2008/10/casey-anthonys.html

Casey Anthony faces a total of seven counts:

First Degree Murder
Aggravated manslaughter of a child
Aggravated child abuse
Four counts of providing false information to a law enforcement officer

[lorettalockhorn]

We are now getting reports that a total of seven counts have been handed down in the case of Casey Anthony and her missing 2-year-old daughter, Caylee Anthony. Three of the counts are allegedly for first degree murder, aggrivated child abuse and manslaughter. According to Wesh.com, the other four counts involve Anthony's alleged lies to investigators.

:confused: I don't understand? First degree murder and manslaughter? :shrug:

Maybe they decided that she only meant to drug Caylee, but since she died and the aggravated child abuse is a felony, and since she planned to use the chloroform to drug her, it makes Caylee's death a capital offense?

[One2Snoop]

Ok, now I think I understand...


More Details On Casey Indictment
October 14, 2008 -
5:20 p.m.: Here are a few more details of the 7 count against Casey Anthony.

/ The first count is for first-degree murder, a capital offense that is punishable by the death penalty. (State Attorney Lawson Lamar, however, did not say specifically he would seek execution, if Casey Anthony is convicted. He took no questions.)

This charge alleges that Casey Anthony caused the death of Caylee “from a premeditated design” between June 15 and July 16. Those dates correspond to the last time Caylee was seen and when she was reported missing. The indictment offers no other information on how, why or when.

/ Count two is aggravated child abuse. This alleges that between the same dates Casey Anthony “did knowingly or willfully…causes great bodily harm, permanent disfigurement or permanent disability to Caylee Marie Anthony…by intentionally inflicting physical injury…or by intentionally committing an act or actively encouraging another person to commit an act which could reasonably expected to result in physical injury.”

Count three is aggravated manslaughter of a child. This count alleges that Casey Anthony caused Caylee’s death by failing to provide “the care, supervision and services necessary to maintain Caylee Marie Anthony’s physical and mental health” or that she did not make “a reasonable effort” to protect Caylee from someone else abuses, neglecting or exploiting her.

Counts four through seven are all “providing false information to a law enforcement officer.” Each count lists a time when Casey Anthony is alleged to have lied to investigators about Caylee. Count four says she lied to Orange County Sheriff’s Office Detective Yuri Melich when she said she worked at Universal Studios in 2008. Count five alleges she lied to Melich when she said she left Caylee with a woman named Zenaida Gonzalez. Count six alleges she lied to Melich when she said she told two former Universal Studios employees that Caylee was missing. And count seven alleges Anthony lied to Melich when she said she received phone call from Caylee on July 15.


Casey Anthony Indicted On Murder Charge
October 14, 2008 -
4:55 p.m. It is a 7-count indictment against Casey Anthony, State Attorney Lawson Lamar just said.

Count one is first-degree murder.

Count two is for causing great bodily harm to Caylee, by intentionally inflicting injury on her or causing the injury to happen.

Count three is aggravated manslaughter, that as Caylee’s caregiver, Casey failed to give her what was needed for her physical or mental health or to protect her from abuse that caused her death.

Counts four to seven involve lying to law enforcement during her discussions with investigators.

“The defendant is cloaked with the persumption of innocence,” Lamar said as he said he would not further comment on process. He said she should not be tried at news conferences or in the media.

Beary said they are not hear to rejoice in the indictment. He said they will continue to everything they can to recover Caylee.


Lamar To Talk to Media
4:45 p.m.: State Attorney Lawson Lamar is preparing to talk to the media. Casey Anthony has arrived at the Orange County Sheriff’s Office. Check back for details.

http://www.wesh.com/breakingnews/index.html

[Brainstorm]

Let us all please bow our heads and THANK GOD !!!! I just came in,wondering if it was more of the same, to THIS!!!!!!! THANK GOD. HIS WILL is being done. Sad day for the devil,he can slink along to somewhere else for a while, and prepare a place for Casey,Cindy & George, IF they dont come clean.
I got so excited, I jumped ahead here and posted, Got to go back and read slowly.
AMEN, and ITA with all the above posts.(for now)

[mu8shark]

I haven't read the report you refer to and don't understand where the word unfair came from, but what I understand from Tim Miller is that conditions are simply not favorable to searching without missing (skipping over) evidence or destroying evidence due to the weather. This is from a quote that Tim Miller gave WFTV saying it was unfair to the Anthonys to search at this time. I totally get the wet weather is unsuitable but I think on Nancy Grace , Nancy questioned him about this statement when she said I heard you stopped searching because Cindy Anthony was mad at you. So I just don't get that part.

[lorettalockhorn]

>> or actively encouraging another person to commit an act which could reasonably expected to result in physical injury.”

Count three is aggravated manslaughter of a child. This count alleges that Casey Anthony caused Caylee’s death by failing to provide “the care, supervision and services necessary to maintain Caylee Marie Anthony’s physical and mental health” or that she did not make “a reasonable effort” to protect Caylee from someone else abuses, neglecting or exploiting her.

hmmm

[mu8shark]

Maybe they decided that she only meant to drug Caylee, but since she died and the aggravated child abuse is a felony, and since she planned to use the chloroform to drug her, it makes Caylee's death a capital offense? This has to be it because it does not make sense to charge both murder and manslaughter UNLESS they are leaving it up to a jury to decide whether it was intentional or if she was trying to sedate her just to get rid of her for that night. I personally think it was intentional,esp because of the missing child's site she looked up. I mean how weird is that?

[mu8shark]

I certainly agree but it seems those with their head in the clouds think he is just terrific. Would the Zanny the Nanny defense not be right up his alley. That defense sounds right up his alley alright, or maybe that she ran away from home, or that the tow truck people conspired against her along with the dogs or they will try to implicate Jesse Grund who has like zero motive. Sorry to sound so absurd but sometimes the lying and excuses put forward by these people frustrate me!

[Brainstorm]

The only news that could be better(SINCE we know CAYLEE is safe in heaven,imo) is if CA & GA(maybe Lee,also) are charged with their participation.(OR not doing anything to help)IF they had any knowledge at all or covered for her,IMOO

[One2Snoop]

http://i37.tinypic.com/2955oqv.jpg
http://www.wftv.com/image/17670517/detail.html

[Brainstorm]

http://i37.tinypic.com/2955oqv.jpg
http://www.wftv.com/image/17670517/detail.html

evil looking b/i/t/c/h,IMO

[One2Snoop]

George Anthony, Mark Nejame Make Statement Before Grand Jury Meeting

Casey's father and his attorney spoke to the media briefly. (10/14/08)
http://www.wftv.com/video/17714433/index.html

http://i38.tinypic.com/2rejdeg.jpg

[Brainstorm]

Im listening to/watching,NG.They are talking about Casey crying for the FIST time.Padilla is saying she may be accepting it. I say, NO WAY!!! DIDNT YOU NOTICE HOW CAREFULLY SHE WIPED HERS EYES, SO AS NOT TO SMEAR HER MAKEUP??? DONT LET THOSE TEARS FOOL ANYBODY!!!!She's crying BECAUSE SHE GOT CAUGHT!!!
She is an evil bicth that BEST come clean !!!!! And throw herself,her dirty self, BEFORE GOD !!!! IMO. THEN, tell where she DUMPED the precious child. NOT hers'. GOD SHOWED HER !!!! IMO

[One2Snoop]

Audio Of Secret Proceedings Mistakenly Broadcast Outside Courtroom In Anthony Case
Casey Anthony Indicted On First-Degree Murder Charge, Arrested

POSTED: 5:50 pm EDT October 14, 2008
UPDATED: 6:15 pm EDT October 14, 2008

ORLANDO, Fla. -- Audio of a grand jury's secret proceedings in the nationally-watched case of Casey Anthony was mistakenly sent outside the courtroom and to all media outlets plugged into the courthouse system.

"I don't know what was listened to or what was heard until the time that it was turned off," Orange County Chief Judge Belven Perry said. "Everyone who may have heard needs to govern themselves accordingly."

Tuesday afternoon, Casey Anthony was accused in the indictment of killing her daughter even though the child's body has not been found.


A grand jury returned charges of first-degree murder, aggravated child abuse, aggravated manslaughter and four counts of lying to investigators against Casey Anthony in the death of her daughter, Caylee, State Attorney Lawson Lamar said.

However, before the indictment, Local 6 crews realized that audio from the grand jury's secret meeting on the 23rd floor of the Orange County courthouse was being piped out of the building.

Court officers and the state attorney's office were immediately notified of the breach.

After a flurry of activity that could be witnessed outside the grand jury room, the audio feed was cut off and proceedings were suspended.

Perry said court administration was to blame for the mistake. He said the state attorney's office had nothing to do with the mistake.

Casey Anthony's attorney, Jose Baez was notified of the breach.

"This should have been a secret proceeding," Baez said. "There is so much that should not have been leaked and has. It is making a joke of the whole situation. It is a sad day for justice."

Baez said he is researching whether the breach could impact the murder indictment.

Perry warned anyone who heard anything that they should not reveal what they learned under threat of contempt of court.

It is not known if the breach could jeopardize the state's case against Casey Anthony but the state attorney said he does not think it will have an impact on the indictment.

http://www.local6.com/news/17715337/detail.html

[Brainstorm]

Tim Miller IS going to stay and find her body !!!!

[One2Snoop]

Tim Miller IS going to stay and find her body !!!!

Just heard that! Great news! :beer:

[One2Snoop]

Casey back to jail, questions raised about vehicle swap
Sarah Lundy and Amy L. Edwards | Sentinel Staff Writers
7:26 PM EDT, October 14, 2008


Casey Anthony is back in the Orange County Jail.

Shortly after 6:30 p.m., an FBI agent and two sheriff's detectives took Casey Anthony from the sheriff's headquarters to the Orange County Jail.

One reporter yelled a question -- "Casey, are you a murderer?" -- but she did not answer.

Unlike the hoodie and jeans she wore the first time she was arrested, this time Anthony wore a white button down shirt, black dress pants and reading glasses.
But although she is in custody under a seven-count indictment, including one for the murder of her 3-year-old daughter Caylee Marie, other questions emerged Tuesday as the saga played out in court, on television and on the roads of Central Florida.

Such as: Sheriff's officials are trying to figure out where Casey Anthony was headed Tuesday afternoon when deputies pulled over the vehicle she was riding in on the BeachLine.

An agency spokesman confirmed to the Orlando Sentinel that at some point in the afternoon, before deputies stopped and caught Anthony, she changed vehicles under a highway overpass in east Orange County.

Anthony's mother, Cindy Anthony, reportedly pulled her vehicle over at Narcoossee Road and State Road 417, and Casey got out. Casey Anthony then got into a full-size grey SUV, which drove off.

It is unclear who owns the grey SUV and who was driving the vehicle.

The Orlando Sentinel called MacDonald Bail Bonds, one of the companies responsible for posting Anthony's $500,000 bond, but a man who answered the phone there said "no comment."

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/orl-casey-anthony-indictment-jail-101408,0,3125220.story

[One2Snoop]

Although, at this time, it’s not confirmed, a 2nd person of interest is to be picked up and arrested, in the latest developments of this case. No one is sure who the 2nd POI is, whether it’s Lee Anthony or one of the many characters in the Casey Anthony saga. Fox 35 made the announcement, that individual has NOT been named, at this time. This is still a rumor and NOT confirmed. It was very brief, that is it.
http://thedailybs.com/news/?p=1212

[One2Snoop]

Casey's tears are for herself. She is not capable of feeling remorse etc. etc. I am surprised Padilla would be fooled by that. He's been around these types i'm sure. That statement by him actually shocks me. I shall catch N.G. at 10.:rose:

Padilla just said she's not crying - there's a sadness on her face but she's not crying. I don't think he's fooled.

[Brainstorm]

Just heard that! Great news! :beer:


I Wonder who'll get arrested/IF/ about the "alleged get-away"?Who helped her and how much did she promise to pay? OR is it that she might have had something to blackmail someone? I wouldnt put that past her. Going down with a BIG BANG !!!A Thelma and Louise moment. Keep your make up just right,cause you know theres a camera in your face.!!!!
Wouldnt it be a tragedy if her and Scot Peterson got together and created(GOD FORBID)
She's Crying cause her good times are over !!!!!
They're saying it was her bail bondsman.STRANGE AS HELL, imo.I need to just calm down.Im too disgusted about this.
edited to add, he ,Padilla,must have watched it during a comercial,cause earlier he said he hadn't seen it,didt he?

[lorettalockhorn]

evil looking b/i/t/c/h,IMO

Let me get this straight. You don't support her?!

Seriously though, look at Casey's social calendar and all of her running around and her doting parents. And then look at how little is known about her. I don't see that she really has/had any friends. And don't see that anyone gave a rat's ass about Caylee. It's hard not to laugh at the thought of her crocodile tears today.

[mu8shark]

Although, at this time, it’s not confirmed, a 2nd person of interest is to be picked up and arrested, in the latest developments of this case. No one is sure who the 2nd POI is, whether it’s Lee Anthony or one of the many characters in the Casey Anthony saga. Fox 35 made the announcement, that individual has NOT been named, at this time. This is still a rumor and NOT confirmed. It was very brief, that is it.
http://thedailybs.com/news/?p=1212 I went and looked at their website and do not see this. Not questioning you at all, remember you for either this site before or some other site and remember how reliable you are. Was it broadcast or something? Is Fox 35 a radio or tv station? Understand I am just asking. I have a group and am trying to kind of report over there, too. Thanks in advance for the hot tip.

[mu8shark]

Actually there was no attempted get away according to the reporter on the Nancy Grace show the car belonged to the bail bondsmans car and she just transferred. Only reporting what I heard on there because I thought this was another wild thing in an already wild case!

[One2Snoop]

I went and looked at their website and do not see this. Not questioning you at all, remember you for either this site before or some other site and remember how reliable you are. Was it broadcast or something? Is Fox 35 a radio or tv station? Understand I am just asking. I have a group and am trying to kind of report over there, too. Thanks in advance for the hot tip.

It's the 5th paragraph if you call all those paragraphs LOL....

Casey Anthony sealed her fate. Leonard Padilla was right, based on our discussion yesterday, in saying that the grand jury would have enough evidence to convict Casey Anthony.

Before the grand jury verdict, Jose Baez emphasized points that his client is innocent until proven guilty, with Casey shedding crocodile tears, the first time I’ve ever seen her show any sign of emotion.

The verdict was announced, she is being indicated on first-degree murder, aggravated child abuse, aggravated manslaughter and four counts of false statements to law enforcement.

OCSD picked her up in a black SUV and brought her in on the new charges, & is currently in custody.

Although, at this time, it’s not confirmed, a 2nd person of interest is to be picked up and arrested, in the latest developments of this case. No one is sure who the 2nd POI is, whether it’s Lee Anthony or one of the many characters in the Casey Anthony saga. Fox 35 made the announcement, that individual has NOT been named, at this time. This is still a rumor and NOT confirmed. It was very brief, that is it.

snip

[Brainstorm]

Let me get this straight. You don't support her?!

Seriously though, look at Casey's social calendar and all of her running around and her doting parents. And then look at how little is known about her. I don't see that she really has/had any friends. And don't see that anyone gave a rat's ass about Caylee. It's hard not to laugh at the thought of her crocodile tears today.

You got that right !!! straight as an arrow.


Once anyone caught on to her,saw her true colors,OF course she didnt have any REAL friends,imo.
Who'd WANT to be her friend?
ONLY GOD,right now,imo

[One2Snoop]

Actually there was no attempted get away according to the reporter on the Nancy Grace show the car belonged to the bail bondsmans car and she just transferred. Only reporting what I heard on there because I thought this was another wild thing in an already wild case!

I heard the same thing.

[soccermom]

YAHHHHHOOOOOO!!!! arrested for murder WOOOHOOOOOOO!!!!

God did you see the fake tears or gosh i have to try to cry----or dont want my make up to run----what a fake!!!!!

Now i only hope they find that precious little girl and give her peace:rose: where ever she may be---i hope justice is served !!!!

[Brainstorm]

YAHHHHHOOOOOO!!!! arrested for murder WOOOHOOOOOOO!!!!

God did you see the fake tears or gosh i have to try to cry----or dont want my make up to run----what a fake!!!!!

Now i only hope they find that precious little girl and give her peace:rose: where ever she may be---i hope justice is served !!!!

OH YEH,she is still ALL ABOUT CASEY.

[Brainstorm]

K-I shall have to go back and re-read i must have misread. Thank You. Then i wont be shocked:rose:

I think he watched it for himself,maybe during his off air time,cause he did come back with a different attitude,IMOO.
Wasnt it him that made the statement one time about we are all going to be shocked when this all comes out? I think he's GOT HER # !!!!

[One2Snoop]

I think he watched it for himself,maybe during his off air time,cause he did come back with a different attitude,IMOO.
Wasnt it him that made the statement one time about we are all going to be shocked when this all comes out? I think he's GOT HER # !!!!

I missed that part then and only heard what I posted above. I was typing and listening to the TV at the same time LOL so I wasn't sure if I got it right.

[Brainstorm]

I went and looked at their website and do not see this. Not questioning you at all, remember you for either this site before or some other site and remember how reliable you are. Was it broadcast or something? Is Fox 35 a radio or tv station? Understand I am just asking. I have a group and am trying to kind of report over there, too. Thanks in advance for the hot tip.

What else did she do this for,then? JUST ADDING MORE DRAMA TO THE $$$$TWO MILLION SHOW?

[SaraSidle]

[QUOTE=SaraSidle;9130620]


Or it could be that she killed Caylee out of rage because she was mad at her mom. If that happened she would also panicked about disposing of the body. JMO

A&O. it think it was a panicked diposal no matter what. With all the places supposedly have decomp smell it sounds real panicked to me.....IMO

[beachbum]

Whatever she did to Caylee may she long relive it daily and nightly in the slammer. JMO

I picked up a Globe newspaper with headlining title "Why Casey snapped". The reason...because she didnt get to go on the trip with her friends to Puerto Rico. It said there would be a secret witness to testify about what happened. Anyone else read it. I know alot of people consider these trash newspapers but alot of times they have reported stuff before it comes out in the public and have been true. Just curious. JMO

[Brainstorm]

It's too bad,IMOO,that this can't be a Bible moment,like an example made out of her. AN EYE FOR AN EYE. Drug her up,stick her in a dark trunk to sleep.WITH FULL KNOWLEDGE,(unlike the innocent child) that one of those times, she'll never wake up.
I just pray little Caylee went peacefully to sleep.BUT its so sad to think of her looking in her mommys eyes,probably already accustomed to this,then going to sleep forever.
I hope that image torments Casey,till she ends this nightmare.IMOO

[SaraSidle]

Also on George today is the first day I have contemplated what a spot he is in. Maybe it is just my imagination but something seems to have changed in his attitude. I think he realizes the truth and he is probably in hell with Casey and Cindy. I mean I know some still feel sorry for Cindy but I have to tell you I think , to use an old fashioned word, she is a dreadful woman. She is still saying Casey is a victim, just like Caylee. I know this is crude and maybe inappropriate but I don't quite see Casey as just like Caylee, Caylee is laying somewhere rotting, while Casey has been sitting around on the comp with her friends and watching HBO. I just don't quite see the comparison.

great post. I still think Cindy is in denial somewhat because she feels guilty but I agree with the rest........sara

[beachbum]

great post. I still think Cindy is in denial somewhat because she feels guilty but I agree with the rest........sara

I think George's demeanor changed to. My gosh it should have-he was to be under oath in a court of law. You have to tell the truth. He has been a man of law before. He said it was all about Caylee today and yes it was all about
Caylee today not Casey. mu8Shark-Casey has no friends any more to party with. She lied or stole from them. Tell me one aside her mom that is going to stand by her. Dont think so. jmo

[One2Snoop]

Casey Anthony Handed Over To Authorities

Shortly before the grand jury announcement Casey Anthony was handed off to an unknown person or persons. While in route from her attorney’s office with her mother, Cindy Anthony, Anthony stopped the vehicle under a bridge near Boggy Creek road in south Orange County near an SUV that belonged to the Orange County Sheriff's department. Casey Anthony was placed into the SUV and taken away.

Video
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=7644189&version=1&locale=EN-US

[mu8shark]

What else did she do this for,then? JUST ADDING MORE DRAMA TO THE $$$$TWO MILLION SHOW? No , LOL I was not questioning her at all as to her own veracity. I am also kind of debating posting this because I don't want to get banned for posting rumours or have a reputation for just posting junk .I heard but let me preface this by saying I can't at all vouch for this post as I just saw it, so it is just hearsay over hearsay but really saw no harm in posting it as it is again just a rumour, but on another board someone said that they have a relative who is a deputy in Brevard County who said that the reason only George testified and not Cindy was because police are considering prosecuting Cindy for accessory after the fact. Again, I am not posting the exact post as I would not steal that and am not representing this as the truth, just something to add to the Fox 35 as a possibility. Hope this does not make anybody mad or ruin my usually good rep for just the facts maam

[beachbum]

No , LOL I was not questioning her at all as to her own veracity. I am also kind of debating posting this because I don't want to get banned for posting rumours or have a reputation for just posting junk .I heard but let me preface this by saying I can't at all vouch for this post as I just saw it, so it is just hearsay over hearsay but really saw no harm in posting it as it is again just a rumour, but on another board someone said that they have a relative who is a deputy in Brevard County who said that the reason only George testified and not Cindy was because police are considering prosecuting Cindy for accessory after the fact. Again, I am not posting the exact post as I would not steal that and am not representing this as the truth, just something to add to the Fox 35 as a possibility. Hope this does not make anybody mad or ruin my usually good rep for just the facts maam

Very good. I did hear them say on MSNBC about 5:20 cst that Cindy was having to give hair samples and etc. Dont know if she had not done this before or not. I do believe that is what I heard. jmo

[tv]

Also on George today is the first day I have contemplated what a spot he is in. Maybe it is just my imagination but something seems to have changed in his attitude. I think he realizes the truth and he is probably in hell with Casey and Cindy. I mean I know some still feel sorry for Cindy but I have to tell you I think , to use an old fashioned word, she is a dreadful woman. She is still saying Casey is a victim, just like Caylee. I know this is crude and maybe inappropriate but I don't quite see Casey as just like Caylee, Caylee is laying somewhere rotting, while Casey has been sitting around on the comp with her friends and watching HBO. I just don't quite see the comparison.

I know what you mean about the change in George Anthony's attitude. I just hope it lasts. I agree Cindy is a dreadful woman but I'm willing to give her the benefit of the doubt (even though it's wearing thin) because she may be in denial. Talking about old fashioned words I like what Marc Klaas called Casey -- an odious creature.

[mu8shark]

I think George's demeanor changed to. My gosh it should have-he was to be under oath in a court of law. You have to tell the truth. He has been a man of law before. He said it was all about Caylee today and yes it was all about
Caylee today not Casey. mu8Shark-Casey has no friends any more to party with. She lied or stole from them. Tell me one aside her mom that is going to stand by her. Dont think so. jmoWell it is just my opinion but as of yesterday Cindy was calling Casey a victim just like Casey. As for the long haul , will she stand by her, don't know but for now she seems to be standing by her and I base it on that statement. .

[beachbum]

Well it is just my opinion but as of yesterday Cindy was calling Casey a victim just like Casey. As for the long haul , will she stand by her, don't know but for now she seems to be standing by her and I base it on that statement. .

It is just so hard for me to try to understand how Cindy can back Casey-when Cindy-being grandma - took care of Caylee most of the time. How
can she let that baby down? I just dont understand it. JMO

[SaraSidle]

Very good. I did hear them say on MSNBC about 5:20 cst that Cindy was having to give hair samples and etc. Dont know if she had not done this before or not. I do believe that is what I heard. jmo

I think a lot of this case seems to be rumors,lies and leaks. I think if we all say "In My Opinion" everyone will understand that.........IMO sara

[brandy]

Caylee Anthony Geographical profile from David Lohr's blog:

Godwin told Investigation Discovery that the profile "predicts with a high degree of probability that Caylee's body will be found near Narcoossee Road just SW of the grandparents' home."

http://www.drmauricegodwin.com/Caylee%20Anthony%20Geo%20Profile.htm

http://blogs.discovery.com/criminal_report/2008/10/caylee-anthon-1.html


Casey back to jail, questions raised about vehicle swap
Sarah Lundy and Amy L. Edwards | Sentinel Staff Writers
7:26 PM EDT, October 14, 2008


Casey Anthony is back in the Orange County Jail.

Shortly after 6:30 p.m., an FBI agent and two sheriff's detectives took Casey Anthony from the sheriff's headquarters to the Orange County Jail.

One reporter yelled a question -- "Casey, are you a murderer?" -- but she did not answer.

Unlike the hoodie and jeans she wore the first time she was arrested, this time Anthony wore a white button down shirt, black dress pants and reading glasses.
But although she is in custody under a seven-count indictment, including one for the murder of her 3-year-old daughter Caylee Marie, other questions emerged Tuesday as the saga played out in court, on television and on the roads of Central Florida.

Such as: Sheriff's officials are trying to figure out where Casey Anthony was headed Tuesday afternoon when deputies pulled over the vehicle she was riding in on the BeachLine.

An agency spokesman confirmed to the Orlando Sentinel that at some point in the afternoon, before deputies stopped and caught Anthony, she changed vehicles under a highway overpass in east Orange County.

Anthony's mother, Cindy Anthony, reportedly pulled her vehicle over at Narcoossee Road and State Road 417, and Casey got out. Casey Anthony then got into a full-size grey SUV, which drove off.

It is unclear who owns the grey SUV and who was driving the vehicle.

The Orlando Sentinel called MacDonald Bail Bonds, one of the companies responsible for posting Anthony's $500,000 bond, but a man who answered the phone there said "no comment."

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/orl-casey-anthony-indictment-jail-101408,0,3125220.story

I know it isnt far from her home but wouldnt that be odd if she was taken into custody near where She put Caylees body?

Maybe she was gonna show Cindy where she put Caylee? Ah, in a perfect world:cuss:

[One2Snoop]

No , LOL I was not questioning her at all as to her own veracity. I am also kind of debating posting this because I don't want to get banned for posting rumours or have a reputation for just posting junk .I heard but let me preface this by saying I can't at all vouch for this post as I just saw it, so it is just hearsay over hearsay but really saw no harm in posting it as it is again just a rumour, but on another board someone said that they have a relative who is a deputy in Brevard County who said that the reason only George testified and not Cindy was because police are considering prosecuting Cindy for accessory after the fact. Again, I am not posting the exact post as I would not steal that and am not representing this as the truth, just something to add to the Fox 35 as a possibility. Hope this does not make anybody mad or ruin my usually good rep for just the facts maam

People don't get banned from here for posting a rumor - if it does turn out to be a rumor we'll just squash it and move on.... :beer:

[One2Snoop]

I know it isnt far from her home but wouldnt that be odd if she was taken into custody near where She put Caylees body?

Maybe she was gonna show Cindy where she put Caylee? Ah, in a perfect world:cuss:

Dreamin' are we? :D

[mu8shark]

Whatever she did to Caylee may she long relive it daily and nightly in the slammer. JMO

I picked up a Globe newspaper with headlining title "Why Casey snapped". The reason...because she didnt get to go on the trip with her friends to Puerto Rico. It said there would be a secret witness to testify about what happened. Anyone else read it. I know alot of people consider these trash newspapers but alot of times they have reported stuff before it comes out in the public and have been true. Just curious. JMOWell I don't necessarily discount those magazines. The Enquirer literally broke the OJ Simpson civil case with the shoes and in the Scott Peterson case the Enquirer was on the money most of the time. Are they always right, imo, No but sometimes they hit it. And I think that theory may be right on, I have seen her texts to her friends and she wanted to go. I think on father's day when she ask Cindy to maybe watch Caylee while she went to Puerto Rico, CIndy knowing she stole from her grandparents and from Jesse and having already been threatening her with going for custody, I think Cindy blew up. According to Leonard P, on the last day Cindy saw Casey(this according to a story Lee told Leonard) Cindy got so mad she put her hands on Caseys throat. Now, think about from Ms Selfish's point of view, she has already been visiting missing childrens sites and is thinking how her life would be better without her 3 year old, not going on this trip and her Mom lecturing her again and telling her no and blowing up, maybe that just made Casey decide, no better time for Caylee to disappear. I mean what is given can be taken away and she is a spiteful B, right? In Casey world I think this could have happened. I think there is a lot to this Puerto Rico thing sending her into overdrive, just my theory

[SaraSidle]

I know it isnt far from her home but wouldnt that be odd if she was taken into custody near where She put Caylees body?

Maybe she was gonna show Cindy where she put Caylee? Ah, in a perfect world:cuss:

Isn't that weird Brandy. I thought the same thing when I read that!!!!!!

[brandy]

Dreamin' are we? :D

:shrug: I'm also confused as to why she only got 4 counts of providing false info to LE... maybe they just lost count :punch:

[beachbum]

Isn't that weird Brandy. I thought the same thing when I read that!!!!!!

Kind of like Scott Peterson throwing Lacy in the bay and now that is where he is serving his time on death row. Ironic isnt it.

[SaraSidle]

Kind of like Scott Peterson throwing Lacy in the bay and now that is where he is serving his time on death row. Ironic isnt it.

yeah but this is just so strange like everything else. sara IMO

[Brainstorm]

No , LOL I was not questioning her at all as to her own veracity. I am also kind of debating posting this because I don't want to get banned for posting rumours or have a reputation for just posting junk .I heard but let me preface this by saying I can't at all vouch for this post as I just saw it, so it is just hearsay over hearsay but really saw no harm in posting it as it is again just a rumour, but on another board someone said that they have a relative who is a deputy in Brevard County who said that the reason only George testified and not Cindy was because police are considering prosecuting Cindy for accessory after the fact. Again, I am not posting the exact post as I would not steal that and am not representing this as the truth, just something to add to the Fox 35 as a possibility. Hope this does not make anybody mad or ruin my usually good rep for just the facts maamSomewhere in the rumors,is the truth and it has to be sorted out. No problem,imo

Very good. I did hear them say on MSNBC about 5:20 cst that Cindy was having to give hair samples and etc. Dont know if she had not done this before or not. I do believe that is what I heard. jmoTheir lawyer was saying they'd kept it under the radar,but Cindy had voluntarily gave a dna sample last week.WHAT? We all know there had to be a subpoena for Lees,that they gave theirs already.My question is, WHY DIDNT THEY RUN UP THERE,THE FIRST DAY & DEMAND THEIRS BE TAKEN !!!!to move forward !!!!

Well it is just my opinion but as of yesterday Cindy was calling Casey a victim just like Casey. As for the long haul , will she stand by her, don't know but for now she seems to be standing by her and I base it on that statement. .
My guess is NO,she will crack. REMEMBER, SHE raised Casey. SHE IS JUST LIKE HER.imoo
VICTIM? I heard her say that,BUT,WTHs with that? She enabling the killer of her beloved granddaughter.CAYLEE, the ONLY innocent one,the VICTIM, in that family,imo
She'll be crying tomorrow,saying she's the victim.She's got to come up with something,imo, TO SAVE HER OWN ASS!!!!!
imoo

[samanthajane13]

"WOO FREAKIN HOO!!! B/I/T/C/H is going DOWN!!!"



AMEN!!!!!

[lorettalockhorn]

Read the indictment:

http://blogs.discovery.com/criminal_report/2008/10/read-the-indict.html

[mu8shark]

Somewhere in the rumors,is the truth and it has to be sorted out. No problem,imo

Their lawyer was saying they'd kept it under the radar,but Cindy had voluntarily gave a dna sample last week.WHAT? We all know there had to be a subpoena for Lees,that they gave theirs already.My question is, WHY DIDNT THEY RUN UP THERE,THE FIRST DAY & DEMAND THEIRS BE TAKEN !!!!to move forward !!!!


My guess is NO,she will crack. REMEMBER, SHE raised Casey. SHE IS JUST LIKE HER.imoo
VICTIM? I heard her say that,BUT,WTHs with that? She enabling the killer of her beloved granddaughter.CAYLEE, the ONLY innocent one,the VICTIM, in that family,imo
She'll be crying tomorrow,saying she's the victim.She's got to come up with something,imo, TO SAVE HER OWN ASS!!!!!
imoo

At the risk of sounding judgemental I think part of the problem is the way Casey got away with everything all her life. I have a dog and I always say to her, "You think life is one long belly rub." LOL and of course for a dog it is. But human beings have responsiblities and you can't just kill them when you are tired of them. Not saying Cindy raised her to kill, but i bet she made excuses for her and tried to buy into her lies all her life. Casey is finding out the belly rub is over for her.

[mu8shark]

Isn't that weird Brandy. I thought the same thing when I read that!!!!!! Alright here I sound like a band wagoner but I wondered is that body close to where they picked her up in some weird, cosmic coincidence ?

[beachbum]

At the risk of sounding judgemental I think part of the problem is the way Casey got away with everything all her life. I have a dog and I always say to her, "You think life is one long belly rub." LOL and of course for a dog it is. But human beings have responsiblities and you can't just kill them when you are tired of them. Not saying Cindy raised her to kill, but i bet she made excuses for her and tried to buy into her lies all her life. Casey is finding out the belly rub is over for her.

ITA and figure it mounted and mounted. I figure George tried to keep her under control but I figure Cindy let Casey get away with alot of things and I figure this is where alot of difference of opinion in a mother and father came in between Cindy and George and well look what has come down. I guess you could use a dog for an example in this case lol -if you dont correct a dog as a pup he will run wild as you let him. They let Casey get away with too much. oh yal IMO!

[deacon]

This has to be it because it does not make sense to charge both murder and manslaughter UNLESS they are leaving it up to a jury to decide whether it was intentional or if she was trying to sedate her just to get rid of her for that night. I personally think it was intentional,esp because of the missing child's site she looked up. I mean how weird is that?

I think there is a huge amount of evidence we haven't seen and that manslaughter is about abuse we haven't heard. Been thinking about this all night. Hope I am wrong but.....

[deacon]

Although, at this time, it’s not confirmed, a 2nd person of interest is to be picked up and arrested, in the latest developments of this case. No one is sure who the 2nd POI is, whether it’s Lee Anthony or one of the many characters in the Casey Anthony saga. Fox 35 made the announcement, that individual has NOT been named, at this time. This is still a rumor and NOT confirmed. It was very brief, that is it.
http://thedailybs.com/news/?p=1212

There was a second vehicle involved in her arrest. There was a very short blurb on NG last night. Seems cindy stopped under an overpass and casey got out of that car and got in an SUV with someone else. That was about all that was said and it may have been cut off for a purpose. Escape attempt?

[deacon]

It is just so hard for me to try to understand how Cindy can back Casey-when Cindy-being grandma - took care of Caylee most of the time. How
can she let that baby down? I just dont understand it. JMO

I think it is an apple/tree thing.

[NMurphy02]

to register just to throw my two cents into this case. I've been watching it from the beginning and Casey is the female Scott Peterson. I can't stand to even look at this woman. Her dysfunctional family has been allowing her to steal, lie and do anything she had to do to have fun and they didn't do one thing to stop her. Ohh Cindy threatened, but never ACTUALLY did anything and look at what the cost has been. And Cindy is still enabling her. It makes me ill! If Caylee had not gone missing who knows how long all of this would have gone on. Her relationship with her attorney is really strange too. Who spends that much time with a lawyer when they have NO money? I mean come on! Lawyers charge for phone calls. I wonder what they charge to sit in their office for hours on end. Casey has gotten away with so many things and it's finally biting her in the behind and I for one am THRILLED to hopefully see it to the end. She deserves whatever she gets.

[beachbum]

Cindy was on the news again this morning stating that she and several other people think Caylee is still alive and the police just gave up looking for her. Why dont they tell what they know. The police have heard many stories and are there to assist-they want to find her alive too-cant they see that? All the evidence points to her being deceased. Prove the authorities wrong, tell what you know. Otherwise, who's decomposing body was in the trunk of the car???? Seen any long haired squirrels lately? Squirrels and humans Im sure have different dna. There is no telling how many lies Casey has told her parents in her short life and they still believe her. imo

[NMurphy02]

with Cindy this morning and I have never seen anyone more in denial. First they were saying Caylee would be home by her birthday. Well her birthday came & went and nothing. Now they think Caylee will be home before the trial starts? Yeah okay. Also, when they keep saying that once the trial starts we will all understand why Casey was doing what she was doing I want to LOL! Reminds me of when Garregos stood up at the beginning of the Scott Peterson trial and said he would prove beyond a resonable doubt that someone else killed Lacy and Connor. Yeah, again, Okay. I will NEVER understand anything this psychopath has done in the last four months. And isn't it a little strange that nobody questioned this girl having to steal when she supposedly worked fulltime? This is the strangest group of people I have ever heard of. I agree about the apple/tree thing. Seriously.

[NMurphy02]

And would not any parent or grandparent who truly thought their loved one was really out there alive be roaming the streets themselves until the end of time. Now that Casey is in jail she could be out pounding the pavement if this is her belief. Easier so sit back and complain i guess. Dont get her mindset either???

So TRUE!

[applesandorange]

Good morning everyone :seeya: It was late till I got home last night so I went straight to bed. I'm now reading through all these posts. Somewhere along the line I heard that a second person of interest is being looked into. Has anyone heard anything about that? I'm curious because this whole time many people were saying Casey couldn't have done this alone. I disagreed on that and thought she very well could have acted alone but now I'm wondering if I was wrong. I also wonder about that guy, (I forget his name, he was a mechanic and moved right after Caylee went missing. The LE left a card on his door step but he never returned their call) I wonder if he played more into this than what we know. Also about what someone stated in a few posts above this one that child abuse that we don't know about will come out in court according to the one charge. I agree. I think poor Caylee suffered more than any of us can phathom.

[applesandorange]

with Cindy this morning and I have never seen anyone more in denial. First they were saying Caylee would be home by her birthday. Well her birthday came & went and nothing. Now they think Caylee will be home before the trial starts? Yeah okay. Also, when they keep saying that once the trial starts we will all understand why Casey was doing what she was doing I want to LOL! Reminds me of when Garregos stood up at the beginning of the Scott Peterson trial and said he would prove beyond a resonable doubt that someone else killed Lacy and Connor. Yeah, again, Okay. I will NEVER understand anything this psychopath has done in the last four months. And isn't it a little strange that nobody questioned this girl having to steal when she supposedly worked fulltime? This is the strangest group of people I have ever heard of. I agree about the apple/tree thing. Seriously.


You know when Baez made that statement about when they finally talk we will all see I just wanted to punch him in the mouth. Even IF he's so stupid to believe Casey's lies (because hey he knows her better than anyone so he stated) WE the public are not so stupid. We haven't spent countless hours with her letting her get into our heads and manipulate us. If this is the way they act in trial they are going to get laughed out of the court room. Might as well bring in balloon animals and clowns. In the world Casey lives in everything should be fun right?

[joekuhl79]

There was a second vehicle involved in her arrest. There was a very short blurb on NG last night. Seems cindy stopped under an overpass and casey got out of that car and got in an SUV with someone else. That was about all that was said and it may have been cut off for a purpose. Escape attempt?

What looks to have happened was that Cindy tried to lose the media tail. Casey got out of Cindys SUV and into the bailbondsmans vehicle. The Bailbondsman isn't going to help Casey escape - they would lose half a million dollars! She aint worth that!

They were pulling a switcheroo to avoid the cameras. Yes it looked suspicious, so the undercover LE took her then and there...

[applesandorange]

Hi apples: where did u read about a second person of interest? Or did u hear it somewhere?


I'm not sure lol. It was either on here or on NG. Give me some time and I'll try to find it. I think I read it because I remember it saying something about a second person of interest will be looked at soon. Then it made fun saying maybe it's one of Casey's make believe friends. Hold on I'll try to find it.

[applesandorange]

Although, at this time, it’s not confirmed, a 2nd person of interest is to be picked up and arrested, in the latest developments of this case. No one is sure who the 2nd POI is, whether it’s Lee Anthony or one of the many characters in the Casey Anthony saga. Fox 35 made the announcement, that individual has NOT been named, at this time. This is still a rumor and NOT confirmed. It was very brief, that is it.
http://thedailybs.com/news/?p=1212


Here it is.

[joekuhl79]

When Padilla stated that Casey was crying because it's all catching up to her or whatever...he was speculating. When he said that, he also mentioned that he hadn't actually SEEN it. By the next time NG talked to him, he had watched it, and then stated there were no tears, she's putting on a show. Well, there WERE tears, and IF they were real, those tears were for Caseys social life, nothing else. "Boo Hoo, I won't be hanging out in bars, getting drunk, or doing a dozen guys a month anymore!"

[One2Snoop]

What looks to have happened was that Cindy tried to lose the media tail. Casey got out of Cindys SUV and into the bailbondsmans vehicle. The Bailbondsman isn't going to help Casey escape - they would lose half a million dollars! She aint worth that!

They were pulling a switcheroo to avoid the cameras. Yes it looked suspicious, so the undercover LE took her then and there...

I agree - that makes sense.

[One2Snoop]

After watching the video yesterday of George and Nejame before he went into testify I don't think he's in denial anymore.

JMO

[applesandorange]

to register just to throw my two cents into this case. I've been watching it from the beginning and Casey is the female Scott Peterson. I can't stand to even look at this woman. Her dysfunctional family has been allowing her to steal, lie and do anything she had to do to have fun and they didn't do one thing to stop her. Ohh Cindy threatened, but never ACTUALLY did anything and look at what the cost has been. And Cindy is still enabling her. It makes me ill! If Caylee had not gone missing who knows how long all of this would have gone on. Her relationship with her attorney is really strange too. Who spends that much time with a lawyer when they have NO money? I mean come on! Lawyers charge for phone calls. I wonder what they charge to sit in their office for hours on end. Casey has gotten away with so many things and it's finally biting her in the behind and I for one am THRILLED to hopefully see it to the end. She deserves whatever she gets.


So glad you joined us Murphy. This case is so similar to Scott Peterson. Cindy is still enabling Casey but other people are enabling Cindy. I'm sure people just want to be nice and support her but please stop because it does nothing but keep this false hope that Caylee is still alive. The more people she has feeding her this stuff the longer this will go on. Everyone should look at the evidence and back off of Cindy. Let her to deal with this on her own. I do believe if Cindy would stop enabling Casey and demand to know where Caylee is no b.s. just tell me now type of attitude I think Casey would tell her mom. Her mom is really the only person she has left. Once her mom would stop believeing her I think she *MIGHT* crack.

[One2Snoop]

Here's the video....

George Anthony, Mark Nejame Make Statement Before Grand Jury Meeting

Casey's father and his attorney spoke to the media briefly. (10/14/08)
http://www.wftv.com/video/17714433/index.html

http://i38.tinypic.com/2rejdeg.jpg

[applesandorange]

After watching the video yesterday of George and Nejame before he went into testify I don't think he's in denial anymore.

JMO


I agree. I think George has completely turned around. Being ex LE how can he really deny the facts? I think George finally accepts things as they are and is coping.

[NMurphy02]

what I was yelling at my TV yesterday:

"Boo Hoo, I won't be hanging out in bars, getting drunk, or doing a dozen guys a month anymore!"

Padilla says stuff and I just roll my eyes. He should have NEVER bonded her out to begin with. I know shoulda, woulda, coulda, but really.

[NMurphy02]

So glad you joined us Murphy

Thank you :)

[applesandorange]

I changed my mind on George again. Watch the brand new video

http://www.wftv.com/video/17714433/index.html

[One2Snoop]

I changed my mind on George again. Watch the brand new video

http://www.wftv.com/video/17714433/index.html

Bummer :(


Welcome Murphy :cool:

[deacon]

What looks to have happened was that Cindy tried to lose the media tail. Casey got out of Cindys SUV and into the bailbondsmans vehicle. The Bailbondsman isn't going to help Casey escape - they would lose half a million dollars! She aint worth that!

They were pulling a switcheroo to avoid the cameras. Yes it looked suspicious, so the undercover LE took her then and there...

Thanks. I didn't know that. It just seemed to go along with what she has done so far. I guess the Bailbondsman didn't know about the under cover guys. Bet that got him going.

[NMurphy02]

George...sorry for your loss.

[beachbum]

Cindy wants us to believe Caylee was kidnapped. Yes children are kidnapped or taken but the parents usually do not react the way Casey did. They are usually very upset and distraught over it. They help assist the police and do whatever they can to provide information or whatever to help get them back. Casey hasnt done that at all. She was more like well Im finally free, bring on the booze and men, her lies of deceit, her betrayal of her friends. Those are actions of someone happy to be free and its all about ME now. Had Casey's actions been that of a distraught parent, we might have believed her story but Cindy that is WHY we cannot believe Casey or her stories. oh yes, IMO

[applesandorange]

Cindy wants us to believe Caylee was kidnapped. Yes children are kidnapped or taken but the parents usually do not react the way Casey did. They are usually very upset and distraught over it. They help assist the police and do whatever they can to provide information or whatever to help get them back. Casey hasnt done that at all. She was more like well Im finally free, bring on the booze and men, her lies of deceit, her betrayal of her friends. Those are actions of someone happy to be free and its all about ME now. Had Casey's actions been that of a distraught parent, we might have believed her story but Cindy that is WHY we cannot believe Casey or her stories. oh yes, IMO


That's exactly right. I had run it through my mind wayyy back before we knew everything we know now that maybe Casey was threatened in some way. Even then I could NEVER be out partying and living it up if my child was missing. I would be sick with worry and fear. I could see maybe being afraid but I would still know that the more time I put off going to LE the less they could do to help. I would have RUN to the nearest police station and begged for help. I would have gone to the media screaming and begging for someone to find my child. Casey did none of this. Not even once did she make a public appearance asking for the safe return of her daughter. Never once did she go on camera giving Caylee's description and the description of the perp. Even if I was suspected of harming my child and I knew it wasn't true I wouldn't care what anyone thought as long as I got my child back. I would still have been out there in the streets beggin and pleading for help. I would have said I don't care if you believe me or not FIND MY CHILD. Nope Casey never did any of that. Why? Because she knows right where Caylee is, what happened and she's not going to waste her time asking for help when there is nothing that CAN help.

[grneyes]

I'm wondering if maybe the brother is the 2nd person of interest....

[applesandorange]

Here is the quote from Baez

"Casey is going through a nightmare and has been living a nightmare for the last seven months," Baez said. "I sincerely believe that when we have finally spoken, everyone, and I mean everyone, will sit back and say, 'Now, I understand. That explains it.'"


I honestly cannot see anything that they have to say making me say "Now, I understand. That explains it." Give me a break. If she was innocent and they had proof of it she would not be sitting in jail right now on murder charges.

[One2Snoop]

That's exactly right. I had run it through my mind wayyy back before we knew everything we know now that maybe Casey was threatened in some way. Even then I could NEVER be out partying and living it up if my child was missing. I would be sick with worry and fear. I could see maybe being afraid but I would still know that the more time I put off going to LE the less they could do to help. I would have RUN to the nearest police station and begged for help. I would have gone to the media screaming and begging for someone to find my child. Casey did none of this. Not even once did she make a public appearance asking for the safe return of her daughter. Never once did she go on camera giving Caylee's description and the description of the perp. Even if I was suspected of harming my child and I knew it wasn't true I wouldn't care what anyone thought as long as I got my child back. I would still have been out there in the streets beggin and pleading for help. I would have said I don't care if you believe me or not FIND MY CHILD. Nope Casey never did any of that. Why? Because she knows right where Caylee is, what happened and she's not going to waste her time asking for help when there is nothing that CAN help.

Exactly A&O! Nor could I think about shopping for myself or stealing money from others so I could live it up - buy groceries so I could make dinner for my boyfriend, etc....

[beachbum]

That's exactly right. I had run it through my mind wayyy back before we knew everything we know now that maybe Casey was threatened in some way. Even then I could NEVER be out partying and living it up if my child was missing. I would be sick with worry and fear. I could see maybe being afraid but I would still know that the more time I put off going to LE the less they could do to help. I would have RUN to the nearest police station and begged for help. I would have gone to the media screaming and begging for someone to find my child. Casey did none of this. Not even once did she make a public appearance asking for the safe return of her daughter. Never once did she go on camera giving Caylee's description and the description of the perp. Even if I was suspected of harming my child and I knew it wasn't true I wouldn't care what anyone thought as long as I got my child back. I would still have been out there in the streets beggin and pleading for help. I would have said I don't care if you believe me or not FIND MY CHILD. Nope Casey never did any of that. Why? Because she knows right where Caylee is, what happened and she's not going to waste her time asking for help when there is nothing that CAN help.


Very well said.

[lorettalockhorn]

Here is the quote from Baez

"Casey is going through a nightmare and has been living a nightmare for the last seven months," Baez said. "I sincerely believe that when we have finally spoken, everyone, and I mean everyone, will sit back and say, 'Now, I understand. That explains it.'"


I honestly cannot see anything that they have to say making me say "Now, I understand. That explains it." Give me a break. If she was innocent and they had proof of it she would not be sitting in jail right now on murder charges.

Seven months?? What was going on in March?

And Cindy has been quoted as saying that lots of people have seen Caylee. Who and where are these people? Cindy knows that Caylee is alive. I realize that she probably can't be charged with obstruction, or hindering, or aiding and abetting without negating The State's assumption that Caylee is dead, but I would like to see her sued by a third party to produce Caylee or information about her well-being.

[One2Snoop]

Although, at this time, it’s not confirmed, a 2nd person of interest is to be picked up and arrested, in the latest developments of this case. No one is sure who the 2nd POI is, whether it’s Lee Anthony or one of the many characters in the Casey Anthony saga. Fox 35 made the announcement, that individual has NOT been named, at this time. This is still a rumor and NOT confirmed. It was very brief, that is it.
http://thedailybs.com/news/?p=1212

Here it is.

I'm wondering if maybe the brother is the 2nd person of interest....

ummm, OK... :shrug:

UPDATED: According to Leonard Padilla, the 2nd person of interest is believed to be the bail bondsman. At the time, when Casey was switched into a car, the police were positioned to arrest the bondsman at the time, in case Casey would flee.

Jose Baez backs this story, in a discussion with Local 6.

“As he attempted to try to get away from them, he didn’t know if someone was trying to harm Casey or what,” Baez said. “At that point, finally, it turned about to be law enforcement and they in turned pulled him over and (the driver) identified himself as the bondsman.”

She was taken into custody and booked, with her new and final mug shot, seen below.

http://thedailybs.com/news/?p=1212

[NMurphy02]

No Mr. Baez it just FEELS like 7 months. :flamemad:

[beachbum]

I'm wondering if maybe the brother is the 2nd person of interest....

Someone posted on here yesterday that it was only rumored yesterday that they might arrest Cindy. Only a rumor though.

[TOEJAM]

thankfully i have never had to see the inner workings of the justice system close up and personal but it seems to me that the Grand Jury proceedings were much faster than i would have expected them to be, both the hearing and the verdict. Is there anything that we can surmise from the speed? does this mean that the state has overwhelming evidence? or is this normal speed for this type of case?

[One2Snoop]

thankfully i have never had to see the inner workings of the justice system close up and personal but it seems to me that the Grand Jury proceedings were much faster than i would have expected them to be, both the hearing and the verdict. Is there anything that we can surmise from the speed? does this mean that the state has overwhelming evidence? or is this normal speed for this type of case?

I've heard sometimes it can take anywhere from a few days to weeks, so I would assume the state has overwhelming evidence. JMO

[applesandorange]

ummm, OK... :shrug:

UPDATED: According to Leonard Padilla, the 2nd person of interest is believed to be the bail bondsman. At the time, when Casey was switched into a car, the police were positioned to arrest the bondsman at the time, in case Casey would flee.

Jose Baez backs this story, in a discussion with Local 6.

“As he attempted to try to get away from them, he didn’t know if someone was trying to harm Casey or what,” Baez said. “At that point, finally, it turned about to be law enforcement and they in turned pulled him over and (the driver) identified himself as the bondsman.”

She was taken into custody and booked, with her new and final mug shot, seen below.

http://thedailybs.com/news/?p=1212


Thanks for the update on this. I was wondering what came out of it.

[applesandorange]

I've heard sometimes it can take anywhere from a few days to weeks, so I would assume the state has overwhelming evidence. JMO


That was my opinion too. I hope we are right.

[beachbum]

That was my opinion too. I hope we are right.


They deliberated for 30 minutes. Whats that tell you?

[One2Snoop]

They deliberated for 30 minutes. Whats that tell you?

:eek: :eek: :eek:
Definitely overwhelming!

[applesandorange]

They deliberated for 30 minutes. Whats that tell you?

I know but I don't hold my breath anymore with this case. Just don't want to get my hopes up and have it all crash down.

[applesandorange]

Seven months?? What was going on in March?

And Cindy has been quoted as saying that lots of people have seen Caylee. Who and where are these people? Cindy knows that Caylee is alive. I realize that she probably can't be charged with obstruction, or hindering, or aiding and abetting without negating The State's assumption that Caylee is dead, but I would like to see her sued by a third party to produce Caylee or information about her well-being.

I notcied that too and thought the same thing. I have chalked it off by thinking he said "several months" and whoever wrote this typed it wrong. Who knows though.

[applesandorange]

Something else to think about: George said in that one interview that he said all along the person named was not the person who has Caylee. He was meaning ZG. Okay George well then who is it who has Caylee? Did you also know that ZG never existed? Who was it who was babysitting Caylee? Where was she while Caylee whored around? Just asking since you seem to "know" so much. Also if you know so much why isn't Caylee happily playing at home and your daughter is sitting in jail?

I really wonder how GA and CA are going to react when Caylee's body is found. At that point I don't see how GA can keep this charade up.

[One2Snoop]

Judge orders no bond at Casey Anthony appearance
Oct 15, 2008 09:01 -0400

Casey Anthony appeared before an Orange County judge this morning for a first-appearance that lasted less than one minute. Anthony stood beside her defense attorney Jose Baez. Judge John Jordan read the charges and no bond was ordered.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/

[lorettalockhorn]

I notcied that too and thought the same thing. I have chalked it off by thinking he said "several months" and whoever wrote this typed it wrong. Who knows though.

That didn't even occur to me, thanks. (Just figured this doodoo is deeper than we even know.)

[luvchiclets]

I've heard sometimes it can take anywhere from a few days to weeks, so I would assume the state has overwhelming evidence. JMO

Yes, I have heard the same regarding grand juries. As most of us know, this was the last case that this particular grand jury was going to hear. I don't think that was the reason why they decided so quickly though. I think that the evidence was enough, regardless if Baez could challenge the evidence or not. The evidence is going to ensure a conviction in this case. I believe they have plenty of it.

I also agree with you the LE has lots of evidence they have not released yet.

Many thanks to you Snoop and all the others that have helped me keep up to date on this very sad case.

Thanks also to the member who copied and pasted for me a while back when I was trying to help another member find some information regarding the groceries brought to Tony's. I have forgotten your name and this link is huge and luv is lazy. I appreciate your taking the time, for some reason I am unable to copy and paste on certain documents etc...

Has anyone heard if this trial will be on television? It seems that it is getting more difficult to view live trials. The judge has allowed it so far.
Is he going to be the same judge for the first degree murder trial(and the other charges) trial? I hope so, I respect him and like the things he has said regarding Casey. Also, I don't understand what LE is talking about when they refer to a 2nd person of interest? What is that all about. After I post this I will try to find out if I can what a 2nd person of interest. I'm listening to TruTV at this very moment maybe they will mention it.


Regards,
luv

[beachbum]

Wonder if George and Cindy stayed at the home last night? Alot for anyone to handle. Gotta be very haunting to them.

[One2Snoop]

Yes, I have heard the same regarding grand juries. As most of us know, this was the last case that this particular grand jury was going to hear. I don't think that was the reason why they decided so quickly though. I think that the evidence was enough, regardless if Baez could challenge the evidence or not. The evidence is going to ensure a conviction in this case. I believe they have plenty of it.

I also agree with you the LE has lots of evidence they have not released yet.

Many thanks to you Snoop and all the others that have helped me keep up to date on this very sad case.

Thanks also to the member who copied and pasted for me a while back when I was trying to help another member find some information regarding the groceries brought to Tony's. I have forgotten your name and this link is huge and luv is lazy. I appreciate your taking the time, for some reason I am unable to copy and paste on certain documents etc...

Has anyone heard if this trial will be on television? It seems that it is getting more difficult to view live trials. The judge has allowed it so far.
Is he going to be the same judge for the first degree murder trial(and the other charges) trial? I hope so, I respect him and like the things he has said regarding Casey. Also, I don't understand what LE is talking about when they refer to a 2nd person of interest? What is that all about. After I post this I will try to find out if I can what a 2nd person of interest. I'm listening to TruTV at this very moment maybe they will mention it.


Regards,
luv

Supposedly the 2nd person of interest was the bail bondsman - I posted an update above. I still don't know if this is actually true or not because it came from someones BS blog. Let us know what you find. Thanks

[deacon]

Something else to think about: George said in that one interview that he said all along the person named was not the person who has Caylee. He was meaning ZG. Okay George well then who is it who has Caylee? Did you also know that ZG never existed? Who was it who was babysitting Caylee? Where was she while Caylee whored around? Just asking since you seem to "know" so much. Also if you know so much why isn't Caylee happily playing at home and your daughter is sitting in jail?

I really wonder how GA and CA are going to react when Caylee's body is found. At that point I don't see how GA can keep this charade up.

They will blame it on the "nanny." Can't you see that coming? I can. Once that is shot down, it will be she is insane, or some other excuse. Those three, casey included, will never face the real truth and say what happened.

[joekuhl79]

Cindy wants us to believe Caylee was kidnapped. Yes children are kidnapped or taken but the parents usually do not react the way Casey did. They are usually very upset and distraught over it. They help assist the police and do whatever they can to provide information or whatever to help get them back. Casey hasnt done that at all. She was more like well Im finally free, bring on the booze and men, her lies of deceit, her betrayal of her friends. Those are actions of someone happy to be free and its all about ME now. Had Casey's actions been that of a distraught parent, we might have believed her story but Cindy that is WHY we cannot believe Casey or her stories. oh yes, IMO

I don't know about you, but my kids are kidnapped at least once a month! No big deal - the kidnappers will get tired of babysitting and bring them back. Why bother the police? They have lots of other things to do! I use the time to party and buy beer and sunglasses with stolen checks, just like Casey.

Doesn't everybody?

[applesandorange]

They will blame it on the "nanny." Can't you see that coming? I can. Once that is shot down, it will be she is insane, or some other excuse. Those three, casey included, will never face the real truth and say what happened.

With all the evidence of HOW they know where to look... oh wait that's right her cell phone was stolen and she later somehow found it. Yeah I can see it all playing out or whoever she is going to blame for it borrowed her cell phone. It will be ANYONE else's fault but Casey's.

[joekuhl79]

IMO Cindy doesn't deserve much defending, but George does...

Everyone here should really think about the position George and Cindy are in. Their child is accused of murdering their grandchild, who they treated as their own child. Who would want to believe that their own flesh and blood would be capable of such a thing? Casey has lied to them about what happened. I would think almost anyone in their position is going to want to believe their childs story, no matter how outlandish, rather than accept the truth in the evidence that is there. You can tell in the LE interviews and in his testimony at the grand jury that George stood up and did what was right - telling the truth and accepting the evidence that he saw, heard, and smelled. Cindy is just SO far gone in denial, or covering for Casey because she may have aided and abetted after the fact.

Like it or not, the truth of the matter is that George and Cindy are victims in this too.

[applesandorange]

IMO Cindy doesn't deserve much defending, but George does...

Everyone here should really think about the position George and Cindy are in. Their child is accused of murdering their grandchild, who they treated as their own child. Who would want to believe that their own flesh and blood would be capable of such a thing? Casey has lied to them about what happened. I would think almost anyone in their position is going to want to believe their childs story, no matter how outlandish, rather than accept the truth in the evidence that is there. You can tell in the LE interviews and in his testimony at the grand jury that George stood up and did what was right - telling the truth and accepting the evidence that he saw, heard, and smelled. Cindy is just SO far gone in denial, or covering for Casey because she may have aided and abetted after the fact.

Like it or not, the truth of the matter is that George and Cindy are victims in this too.


You could be entirely correct. I'm sorry though I personally cannot view Cindy as a victim. She has done nothing but lie and cover up for Casey. She has washed pants that had the death smell in them. She has gone from saying the car smelled like death to saying it was rotting pizza to saying it didn't smell at all. She has been known by friends and myspace blogs that she wrote to think of Casey as an unfit mother but then turns around and says she should be mother of the year. Cindy IMO has done nothing to help this case. She doesn't want to know the truth. She has done so many negative things that I cannot view her as a victim. She is a psociopath just like her daughter and I wish there was a way for some kind of charges to be brought down on her.

George gets a bit more sympathy from me. He atleast has done right by law and has been cooperative. He to my knowlege hasn't out right lied or tried to cover for Casey. I think he is stuck in a tough situation. If Caylee's body is ever found I believe it will be George who has a mental break down. I think right now he is just trying to hang onto hope. He hasn't ignored the evidence and denied it he has simply said he believes Caylee is alive and wants to hang on to hope.

[deacon]

With all the evidence of HOW they know where to look... oh wait that's right her cell phone was stolen and she later somehow found it. Yeah I can see it all playing out or whoever she is going to blame for it borrowed her cell phone. It will be ANYONE else's fault but Casey's.

You got it. Throw in the oj defense of "if the dress doen't fit you must aquit" and you got it down pat. That is the only thing that scares me. I just hope that LE can squash all of the lies.

[deacon]

IMO Cindy doesn't deserve much defending, but George does...

Everyone here should really think about the position George and Cindy are in. Their child is accused of murdering their grandchild, who they treated as their own child. Who would want to believe that their own flesh and blood would be capable of such a thing? Casey has lied to them about what happened. I would think almost anyone in their position is going to want to believe their childs story, no matter how outlandish, rather than accept the truth in the evidence that is there. You can tell in the LE interviews and in his testimony at the grand jury that George stood up and did what was right - telling the truth and accepting the evidence that he saw, heard, and smelled. Cindy is just SO far gone in denial, or covering for Casey because she may have aided and abetted after the fact.

Like it or not, the truth of the matter is that George and Cindy are victims in this too.

You know, I wouldn't give george a free pass on this one. I mean, right is right no matter who is involved. He has been around that child (casey) all of her life and believe me this problem with the truth didn't just come up. He has been living around it all of her life. Not strong enough to stand up to it? Probably. As they say in sports, he needed to "man-up" in the begining and say what needed to be said. His daughter is a liar and knows not the truth.

Cindy, apple/tree. I thinks casey is just like her. I don't think it is denial. She is so use to having her own way that she can have it no other way. She has to be right no matter who gets hurt or killed. MOO

[lorettalockhorn]

IMO Cindy doesn't deserve much defending, but George does...

Everyone here should really think about the position George and Cindy are in. Their child is accused of murdering their grandchild, who they treated as their own child. Who would want to believe that their own flesh and blood would be capable of such a thing? Casey has lied to them about what happened. I would think almost anyone in their position is going to want to believe their childs story, no matter how outlandish, rather than accept the truth in the evidence that is there. You can tell in the LE interviews and in his testimony at the grand jury that George stood up and did what was right - telling the truth and accepting the evidence that he saw, heard, and smelled. Cindy is just SO far gone in denial, or covering for Casey because she may have aided and abetted after the fact.

Like it or not, the truth of the matter is that George and Cindy are victims in this too.

I hear what you're saying, but don't buy it. George and Cindy created Casey. She didn't turn into the "monster" that she is on 7/16 or 7/17. She's had years of practice. And what stopped Cindy from trying to gain custody of Caylee as we've heard tell of? Their neglect makes them largely responsible for Caylee's fate. Fools' paradise I'm telling you.

[Brainstorm]

They will blame it on the "nanny." Can't you see that coming? I can. Once that is shot down, it will be she is insane, or some other excuse. Those three, casey included, will never face the real truth and say what happened.I think thats why he said months.He's going to give the SOB STORY of a lifetime !!!!!REMEMBER CASEY IS A TOP NOTCH LIAR,who spins belivable stories. DONT BE FOOLED.

With all the evidence of HOW they know where to look... oh wait that's right her cell phone was stolen and she later somehow found it. Yeah I can see it all playing out or whoever she is going to blame for it borrowed her cell phone. It will be ANYONE else's fault but Casey's.EXACTLY,but how long will she last before she has to start covering her own ass?(cindy)

You could be entirely correct. I'm sorry though I personally cannot view Cindy as a victim. She has done nothing but lie and cover up for Casey. She has washed pants that had the death smell in them. She has gone from saying the car smelled like death to saying it was rotting pizza to saying it didn't smell at all. She has been known by friends and myspace blogs that she wrote to think of Casey as an unfit mother but then turns around and says she should be mother of the year. Cindy IMO has done nothing to help this case. She doesn't want to know the truth. She has done so many negative things that I cannot view her as a victim. She is a psociopath just like her daughter and I wish there was a way for some kind of charges to be brought down on her.

George gets a bit more sympathy from me. He atleast has done right by law and has been cooperative. He to my knowlege hasn't out right lied or tried to cover for Casey. I think he is stuck in a tough situation. If Caylee's body is ever found I believe it will be George who has a mental break down. I think right now he is just trying to hang onto hope. He hasn't ignored the evidence and denied it he has simply said he believes Caylee is alive and wants to hang on to hope.

Im forgiving George,(for now) I may change my mind at any time.
Cindy? NO,She better do a turn around and fast.imoo

[Brainstorm]

Im sorry for being so mean,but ya'll look at the pic of Casey,post #90. I swear,that shadow on her nose made me think it may have began growing longer?Im surprised it hadnt already.imoo.

[applesandorange]

I hear what you're saying, but don't buy it. George and Cindy created Casey. She didn't turn into the "monster" that she is on 7/16 or 7/17. She's had years of practice. And what stopped Cindy from trying to gain custody of Caylee as we've heard tell of? Their neglect makes them largely responsible for Caylee's fate. Fools' paradise I'm telling you.

GREAT points!! Fools paradise lol. Sorry that struck me as funny. Never heard it before. Anyway you are soooo right. Casey didn't just become this way. The parents, especially Cindy has been enabling her for years.

[applesandorange]

I think thats why he said months.He's going to give the SOB STORY of a lifetime !!!!!REMEMBER CASEY IS A TOP NOTCH LIAR,who spins belivable stories. DONT BE FOOLED.

EXACTLY,but how long will she last before she has to start covering her own ass?(cindy)



Im forgiving George,(for now) I may change my mind at any time.
Cindy? NO,She better do a turn around and fast.imoo


That's how I feel. I reserve the right to change my mind at any time.

[joekuhl79]

Originally Posted by Brainstorm
REMEMBER CASEY IS A TOP NOTCH LIAR,who spins belivable stories. DONT BE FOOLED.

EXACTLY,but how long will she last before she has to start covering her own ass?(cindy)


Whoa whoa whoa! (Like my Nancy Grace impersonation?)

I respectfully disagree...Casey is a horrible liar! Telling police where she works, who she works with, where she dropped off her kid...and NOT EXPECTING THEM TO FOLLOW UP ON THE INFORMATION?! She may be a quick liar, which works well for her friends (I can't come over, my dad had a stroke), but that doesn't mean she's a good liar!

[applesandorange]

Originally Posted by Brainstorm
REMEMBER CASEY IS A TOP NOTCH LIAR,who spins belivable stories. DONT BE FOOLED.

EXACTLY,but how long will she last before she has to start covering her own ass?(cindy)


Whoa whoa whoa! (Like my Nancy Grace impersonation?)

I respectfully disagree...Casey is a horrible liar! Telling police where she works, who she works with, where she dropped off her kid...and NOT EXPECTING THEM TO FOLLOW UP ON THE INFORMATION?! She may be a quick liar, which works well for her friends (I can't come over, my dad had a stroke), but that doesn't mean she's a good liar!


I agree with your point but the thing that makes people believe she is a good liar is the way she puts in details. She says names, dates, places etc. She makes her lies seem real. She has probably done this all her life and it comes as second nature to her. Before now nobody has bothered to check into her lies. She thought LE would just take her word for it like everyone else in her life. Surprise surprise Casey LE takes nobody's word. They want proof and facts.

[luvchiclets]

Supposedly the 2nd person of interest was the bail bondsman - I posted an update above. I still don't know if this is actually true or not because it came from someones BS blog. Let us know what you find. Thanks

Okay, I will keep looking. I've been looking for a couple hours and have not found anything. If I do I will post it.

I did read your post, regarding the 2nd person of interest.
What is confusing me is that Leonard Padilla was the bail bondsman. Unless the person on the BS blog is referring to the bail bondsman who wishes to remain anonymous? Could that be it?

I do remember hearing or reading about this recently but I can't remember where. Originally I presumed it was LE, but apparently not.
It certainly would be interesting if LE did think there was another person of interest. Someone in the family, I would think. I have heard and read all the other testimony/documentation of friends, boyfriends etc...and they all seemed to be telling the truth.

The family however, is a different matter. A person of interest could mean withholding important information or lying, cover up after the fact, etc... I still don't like Lee's behavior. Why would Lee discourage the family from taking lie detector tests? The tests are not admissible in court. I was under the impression that the test was a tool LE used to confirm a suspicion. Remember the famous high five with Casey? How weird was that? His beloved niece is "missing" and he is high fiving?

Initially Lee seemed to be trying to help. After that though...odd and suspicious conduct from him. It's just a feeling I have. I don't trust Lee, I get a red flag every time I go over his testimony and conduct. He disappeared for a while iirc. Why?

Regards,
luv

[luvchiclets]

I agree with your point but the thing that makes people believe she is a good liar is the way she puts in details. She says names, dates, places etc. She makes her lies seem real. She has probably done this all her life and it comes as second nature to her. Before now nobody has bothered to check into her lies. She thought LE would just take her word for it like everyone else in her life. Surprise surprise Casey LE takes nobody's word. They want proof and facts.

Plus, I bet you that she thought that she would never be caught lying.
As you said, she has been doing this all her life. I agree with that. People similar to Casey think that they are so much smarter than everyone else.
It probably never occurred to her that LE would actually check everything out.

Look at all the time she was supposed to be working and was not. The whole family believed her and she was living with them!

Her lies to her friends seemed real to them as well. Did Casey actually think that Amy would not find out about the missing money and who was responsible? Casey does not know that there are video camera's in Target stores? You can see the camera the minute you walk in the door. Even if Casey were to be found out by Amy, I also bet you that she thought she could lie to Amy with a detailed reason and tell her she would pay her back. Poor Amy, she never knew Casey was a liar and a thief. Amy trusted Casey to the point of lending Casey her car and leaving her checkbook in the glove compartment.

So, she really was a good liar in certain conditions. But, like you said not when it comes to LE.

[Brainstorm]

Originally Posted by Brainstorm
REMEMBER CASEY IS A TOP NOTCH LIAR,who spins belivable stories. DONT BE FOOLED.

EXACTLY,but how long will she last before she has to start covering her own ass?(cindy)


Whoa whoa whoa! (Like my Nancy Grace impersonation?)

I respectfully disagree...Casey is a horrible liar! Telling police where she works, who she works with, where she dropped off her kid...and NOT EXPECTING THEM TO FOLLOW UP ON THE INFORMATION?! She may be a quick liar, which works well for her friends (I can't come over, my dad had a stroke), but that doesn't mean she's a good liar!

I didnt say she was smart,in fact she's stupid,not to think that LE could easily check her out.BUT she's been a convincing liar(APPARANTLY)She's fooled everyone, UP UNTIL NOW.Even those closest to her.
imoo

[One2Snoop]

Oh seriously, who even cares... :rolleyes:

What is Casey Anthony eating in jail?

4:50 p.m. What is Casey Anthony eating in jail? That seems to be a question some members of the media have been asking. So Allen Moore, a public information officer Orange County Corrections Department, today released the food-service menu for inmates at the Orange County Jail.

Today's breakfast included grits and scrambled eggs with ham. Beef-a-roni was on the menu for lunch. Smoked sausage is for dinner.

See what Casey will be eating the rest of the week by clicking here.
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/orl-casey-anthony-initial-appearance-101508,0,6996414.story

[One2Snoop]

Threat Of Death For Casey Could Be Used To Help Find Caylee

POSTED: 4:39 pm EDT October 15, 2008
UPDATED: 6:18 pm EDT October 15, 2008

CASEY CONFINED TO 8-BY-10 FOOT CELL

JUDGE TOSSES TWO MOTIONS

http://www.wftv.com/news/17723629/detail.html

[One2Snoop]

Ya think she looks a little worried here?

http://i38.tinypic.com/2chmezo.jpg

[SaraSidle]

Hi Murphy-Yes she sure is a classic. Even maybe more diabolical than S.P. It will be interesting as this unfolds to hear even more. Lot's we dont know yet. MOO:rose:

that maybe true beemeup when you think about how much we know about their pasts........imo sara

[samanthajane13]

I think I'd be staging a hunger strike...

[SaraSidle]

with Cindy this morning and I have never seen anyone more in denial. First they were saying Caylee would be home by her birthday. Well her birthday came & went and nothing. Now they think Caylee will be home before the trial starts? Yeah okay. Also, when they keep saying that once the trial starts we will all understand why Casey was doing what she was doing I want to LOL! Reminds me of when Garregos stood up at the beginning of the Scott Peterson trial and said he would prove beyond a resonable doubt that someone else killed Lacy and Connor. Yeah, again, Okay. I will NEVER understand anything this psychopath has done in the last four months. And isn't it a little strange that nobody questioned this girl having to steal when she supposedly worked fulltime? This is the strangest group of people I have ever heard of. I agree about the apple/tree thing. Seriously.

me too NMurphy, I agree with your post. It is strange. Like a whole family in denial or lots of personalities in each person. kind of like twilight zone. imo

[SaraSidle]

Originally Posted by Brainstorm
REMEMBER CASEY IS A TOP NOTCH LIAR,who spins belivable stories. DONT BE FOOLED.

EXACTLY,but how long will she last before she has to start covering her own ass?(cindy)


Whoa whoa whoa! (Like my Nancy Grace impersonation?)

I respectfully disagree...Casey is a horrible liar! Telling police where she works, who she works with, where she dropped off her kid...and NOT EXPECTING THEM TO FOLLOW UP ON THE INFORMATION?! She may be a quick liar, which works well for her friends (I can't come over, my dad had a stroke), but that doesn't mean she's a good liar!

Wow you are becoming more like Nancy Grace every day.

I totally agree about the topnotch liar and believable and I think that is one of the things that keep people involved. Everyone so believed Casey was innocent until the evidence and lies started being discovered.......imo sara

[SaraSidle]

Here is the quote from Baez

"Casey is going through a nightmare and has been living a nightmare for the last seven months," Baez said. "I sincerely believe that when we have finally spoken, everyone, and I mean everyone, will sit back and say, 'Now, I understand. That explains it.'"


I honestly cannot see anything that they have to say making me say "Now, I understand. That explains it." Give me a break. If she was innocent and they had proof of it she would not be sitting in jail right now on murder charges.

GE I have seen rumors of mother or brother being the second person!:shrug:

[SaraSidle]

I cannot believe that Juan Baez did not ask for a speedy trial. I know he is not experienced but he has to have people that are lawyers that can help him. If there were any way for her to get not guilty it would be before Caylee would be found. Not that I do not agree though. imo sara

[beachbum]

Oh seriously, who even cares... :rolleyes:

What is Casey Anthony eating in jail?

4:50 p.m. What is Casey Anthony eating in jail? That seems to be a question some members of the media have been asking. So Allen Moore, a public information officer Orange County Corrections Department, today released the food-service menu for inmates at the Orange County Jail.

Today's breakfast included grits and scrambled eggs with ham. Beef-a-roni was on the menu for lunch. Smoked sausage is for dinner.

See what Casey will be eating the rest of the week by clicking here.
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/orl-casey-anthony-initial-appearance-101508,0,6996414.story

No beer---how sad. She may not make it. Doesnt sound too good huh?

[SaraSidle]

No beer---how sad. She may not make it. Doesnt sound too good huh?

Beachbum I think she is eating better than I am which really makes me :cuss:

[applesandorange]

On N.G. tonight LP said that a plastic bag was found containing Caylee's body fluids on the outside. He said it was found at the place where the car was towed to.

[applesandorange]

HEY LORETTA

Per our conversation earlier about Baez saying 7 months..... well....

Eyewitness News has learned the party girl in her could have contributed to Caylee's death in a big way. In March, friends told investigators, Casey was disappointed that she couldn't join friends for an island party vacation in July, because she couldn't find a babysitter for Caylee.

Starting in March, Casey's computer shows that someone researched the stories of missing children on several websites. Now prosecutors could pressure Casey with the death penalty to open up about where Caylee is. "No body, no death penalty," Orlando defense attorney William Sheaffer told Eyewitness News.

Maybe he accidentally did say seven months.... hmmmm

[lorettalockhorn]

HEY LORETTA

Per our conversation earlier about Baez saying 7 months..... well....

Eyewitness News has learned the party girl in her could have contributed to Caylee's death in a big way. In March, friends told investigators, Casey was disappointed that she couldn't join friends for an island party vacation in July, because she couldn't find a babysitter for Caylee.

Starting in March, Casey's computer shows that someone researched the stories of missing children on several websites. Now prosecutors could pressure Casey with the death penalty to open up about where Caylee is. "No body, no death penalty," Orlando defense attorney William Sheaffer told Eyewitness News.

Maybe he accidentally did say seven months.... hmmmm



Omigosh. You read my mind. I immediately thought about his quote.

I guess Cindy could spin this somehow to mean that Casey had been threatened with Caylee's abduction in March. Or something.

Lord love a duck.

[lorettalockhorn]

Beachbum I think she is eating better than I am which really makes me :cuss:

Her margarine is vitamin A fortified. Talk about swank!

[SaraSidle]

Omigosh. You read my mind. I immediately thought about his quote.

I guess Cindy could spin this somehow to mean that Casey had been threatened with Caylee's abduction in March. Or something.

Lord love a duck.

this is a new one to me. thanks loretta:beer:

[SaraSidle]

Her margarine is vitamin A fortified. Talk about swank!

now I am really :flamemad:

[One2Snoop]

On N.G. tonight LP said that a plastic bag was found containing Caylee's body fluids on the outside. He said it was found at the place where the car was towed to.
I missed NG but will watch the rerun!

OMG! Really??? :eek: :eek: :eek: This is huge~!

[applesandorange]

this is a new one to me. thanks loretta:beer:

I know. Loretta cracks me up with her sayings. I LOVE them. Good humor Loretta. :beer:

[deputydi]

GE I have seen rumors of mother or brother being the second person!:shrug:
Lee's behavior has puzzled me from the beginning. I believe Cindy is deep into denial, but Lee IMO knows way more than he is telling. Why would he discourage the family from taking a lie detector test unless he knew something? I don't believe he had anything to do with Caylee's death, but I am beginning to believe he may have been part of the cover up.

My heart went out to George when I saw his brief interview prior to his GJ appearance. I think he knows in his broken heart that Caylee is dead and his very own daughter had something to do with it. That has got to be the most difficult reality in this world to accept.

[applesandorange]

I missed NG but will watch the rerun!

OMG! Really??? :eek: :eek: :eek: This is huge~!


YES!! Watch the rerun! It is breaking news and it is HUGE!! At first he doesn't say it has Caylee's DNA but later he does. I think it slips and I think even NG realizes he slips because you can see her smile right after it.

[deputydi]

I missed NG but will watch the rerun!

OMG! Really??? :eek: :eek: :eek: This is huge~!

I only caught the tail end of NG tonight but I did see Padillo say that. What a shocker. If this is true, Casey better start trying to deal because that could be the one piece of evidence that will convince a jury that Caylee is dead and her mother deserves to die.

[One2Snoop]

Law experts: Fla. conviction possible without body
By MARK WANGRIN Associated Press Writer © 2008 The Associated Press
Oct. 15, 2008, 8:10PM

Video Report ORLANDO, Fla. — Prosecutors have DNA tests and hair samples. They have testimony about "the smell of death" in the trunk of the suspect's car.

What they do not have is a body.

Prosecutors building a case against a single 22-year-old Florida mother accused of killing her young daughter will have to rely on forensic evidence and convince a jury that Casey Anthony lacks credibility and had a motive, legal experts say.

To help build the case, the prosecutor will be using what he described as cutting-edge forensic tests, including air testing for compounds released when a body decomposes.

Prosecutors have not been specific about how the evidence led to charges against Anthony, but experts say it is possible to get a conviction without a body, with several cases, including some in Florida, as examples.

"Sometimes circumstantial evidence is as powerful, or more powerful than the body itself," said Donald Jones, a professor of criminal law at the University of Miami law school.

snip
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/ap/nation/6060793.html

[applesandorange]

I only caught the tail end of NG tonight but I did see Padillo say that. What a shocker. If this is true, Casey better start trying to deal because that could be the one piece of evidence that will convince a jury that Caylee is dead and her mother deserves to die.

I agree deputy. If they have Caylee's DNA and they can prove what kind of bodily fluid it is the jury will most likely accept that she is dead and maybe just maybe her mother deserves to die. BTW Steelers Country is the ONLY country lol. Go Steelers!!:beer:

[One2Snoop]

I only caught the tail end of NG tonight but I did see Padillo say that. What a shocker. If this is true, Casey better start trying to deal because that could be the one piece of evidence that will convince a jury that Caylee is dead and her mother deserves to die.

You got that right! Welcome back deputydi :seeya:

[applesandorange]

Law experts: Fla. conviction possible without body
By MARK WANGRIN Associated Press Writer © 2008 The Associated Press
Oct. 15, 2008, 8:10PM

Video Report ORLANDO, Fla. — Prosecutors have DNA tests and hair samples. They have testimony about "the smell of death" in the trunk of the suspect's car.

What they do not have is a body.

Prosecutors building a case against a single 22-year-old Florida mother accused of killing her young daughter will have to rely on forensic evidence and convince a jury that Casey Anthony lacks credibility and had a motive, legal experts say.

To help build the case, the prosecutor will be using what he described as cutting-edge forensic tests, including air testing for compounds released when a body decomposes.

Prosecutors have not been specific about how the evidence led to charges against Anthony, but experts say it is possible to get a conviction without a body, with several cases, including some in Florida, as examples.

"Sometimes circumstantial evidence is as powerful, or more powerful than the body itself," said Donald Jones, a professor of criminal law at the University of Miami law school.

snip
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/ap/nation/6060793.html


Thanks for posting this Snoop. Maybe soon they will have a body to go with the other evidence. Now wouldn't that just ice the cake?

[beachbum]

On N.G. tonight LP said that a plastic bag was found containing Caylee's body fluids on the outside. He said it was found at the place where the car was towed to.

That is the bag with the pizza in it. Maggots on outside, not on inside. Could be very important.

[One2Snoop]

Pizza on the inside of the bag - magots on the outside because of body fluids. Magots don't feed on pizza. Casey, you are going down!