Follow the Money all the way to Vegas

[William Anthony]

WA, you are a hypocrite at the core. You claim to want to raise the level yet you call names, insinuate that one is part of the KKK and then make these little innuendo comments.

You are doing the exact thing you are accusing others of doing.

I admit to having some dismay, after my posting last night, which really was a call for assistance in raising the level of posting and seeing the two responses on fried chicken. I do not know if you are aware of the stereotype concerning Blacks and chicken but I am. I was simply suggesting that, if the poster comes to the festival that I will preside over, she should bring a hood and a sheet, if she did not have a raincoat available. Surely, you don't think the KKK would allow me to preside over one of their festivals? :shrug:

[William Anthony]

William, I meant nothing by that post. I really made that for supper last night and it was very good. I seriously don't understand your anger.

No anger. A respectful request that I wish you would follow.;) :cool:

[tv]

It was a while ago but my guide was a really nice African American lady who drove me around the interesting places in Atlanta. She recommended a restaurant in Atlanta which she said provided the best southern fried chicken in the US. Damn if she wasn't right! I also ate corn bread with my meal which I've never had before. It was fabulous!!! You don't have corn bread in Australia? Wow. :eek:

[William Anthony]

You don't have corn bread in Australia? Wow. :eek:

Is that what you wanted stuck where the sun don't shine. I will gladly mail him and you some homemade, but mine is usually hard as a rock (oops, no pun intended, You know that Reverend Wight thing).

[tv]

Is that what you wanted stuck where the sun don't shine. I will gladly mail him and you some homemade, but mine is usually hard as a rock (oops, no pun intended).I wasn't addressing you so please find someone else to harrass.

[William Anthony]

I wasn't addressing you so please find someone else to harrass.

News flash, this is a public forum, not tvdinner and Mr. Bell have the last word thread. Perhaps, if you did not posts things designed to incite and inflame, imho, then others would not respond to posts you address to someone else. No harassment, just responding to posts that you have been told some here find racially offensive and why in context of how the subject was first brought up, which you and another poster choose to ignore.

[William Anthony]

I think this was the last on topic post, if anyone cares to respond.

If Nevada does not have the authority to enforce the California judgment and the property was brought into Nevada allegedly by thieves, who stole the property from Simpson, then who does the property brought into Vegas legally belong to?
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Doc Holiday

[tv]

News flash, this is a public forum, not tvdinner and Mr. Bell have the last word thread. Perhaps, if you did not posts things designed to incite and inflame, imho, then others would not respond to posts you address to someone else. No harassment, just responding to posts that you have been told some here find racially offensive and why in context of how the subject was first brought up, which you and another poster choose to ignore.I find it interesting that JB wasn't familiar with cornbread because it's such a common thing here in the US. I was commenting on that. For heaven's sake, please list the food items we can't discuss so I won't offend your delicate sensibilities. This is getting ridiculous.

[William Anthony]

I find it interesting that JB wasn't familiar with cornbread because it's such a common thing here in the US. I was commenting on that. For heaven's sake, please list the food items we can't discuss so I won't offend your delicate sensibilities. This is getting ridiculous.

Off topic.

[martin II]

tv

Although you did seem not to understand the racial significance of whites calling adult black men 'boy' you did seem to understand after some discussion on the subject.

Your knowledge of history and racial subjects in America has never lead me to believe that you would not be informed of the racial conatation of Bell
saying "OJ SIMPSON WAS LOOKING FOR SOME FRIED CHICKEN" Historically accepted by most as a demeaning comment against blacks. I believe you are much more informed in this area than to accept that comment as regular accepted description of a black person.imo
Maby bells next comment will include watermelon.
martin II

[martin II]

I find it interesting that JB wasn't familiar with cornbread because it's such a common thing here in the US. I was commenting on that. For heaven's sake, please list the food items we can't discuss so I won't offend your delicate sensibilities. This is getting ridiculous.

I am surprised Australians don't eat cornbread to go along with the Opossum
meat that it is reported is so popular there.imo

[tv]

tv

Although you did seem not to understand the racial significance of whites calling adult black men 'boy' you did seem to understand after some discussion on the subject.

Your knowledge of history and racial subjects in America has never lead me to believe that you would not be informed of the racial conatation of Bell
saying "OJ SIMPSON WAS LOOKING FOR SOME FRIED CHICKEN" Historically accepted by most as a demeaning comment against blacks. I believe you are much more informed in this area than to accept that comment as regular accepted description of a black person.imo
Maby bells next comment will include watermelon.
martin II

I've eaten fried chicken and watermelon all my life and I don't think of blacks when I eat it, see it or smell it. martin, I think all people are equal and I don't avoid the subject of watermelon or chicken around whites so I don't intend to change my normal conversation around blacks. This is the second time watermelon has been mentioned in reference to fried chicken. Either you or WA brought it up -- no one else. If you have a problem with the way JB phrased the comment about fried chicken I suggest you take it up with JB. I was merely commenting on what I cooked for supper and meant nothing else by it. I'm getting tired of defending myself against racism while being called names, accused of belonging to white supremacy organizations and taking the lord's name in vain. It's enough already.

[tv]

I am surprised Australians don't eat cornbread to go along with the Opossum
meat that it is reported is so popular there.imoI was also surprised about the cornbread -- that's why I commented on it. I don't know anything about eating possum in Australia. I think Jed Clampett ate it on the Beverly Hillbillies.

[martin II]

I've eaten fried chicken and watermelon all my life and I don't think of blacks when I eat it, see it or smell it. martin, I think all people are equal and I don't avoid the subject of watermelon or chicken around whites so I don't intend to change my normal conversation around blacks. This is the second time watermelon has been mentioned in reference to fried chicken. Either you or WA brought it up -- no one else. If you have a problem with the way JB phrased the comment about fried chicken I suggest you take it up with JB. I was merely commenting on what I cooked for supper and meant nothing else by it. I'm getting tired of defending myself against racism while being called names, accused of belonging to white supremacy organizations and taking the lord's name in vain. It's enough already.

TV

seems like you missed me.

The streotype of associating blacks with eating FRIED CHICKEN as a way to make a demeaning statement about them is older than i am. Considering that you are well informed on many subjects, i thought that you would have understood the significance of how Bell used it to make a nagative statement about oj.

Since you have commented to me about my comments towards fred as being nagative etc I was surprised you did not find bells FRIED CHICKEN comment offensive.imo
martin II

[martin II]

Some comments about the case.


Las Vegas attorney Chris Rasmussen has secured bail for hundreds of defendants charged with more serious crimes. “If this was a regular case, this would be gross misdemeanor with probation, maybe five years’ supervision. We have guys that shoot up 7-11s and they get out the next day.”

Former Clark County prosecutor, Amy Chelini, agreed, “Even the most serious charges, except for capital murder, get bail.”

New York defense lawyer Jeff Lichtman, who once represented John Gotti Jr., suggested that he believes the 1995 murders may have some influence over the heavy-handed prosecution.

“Despise O.J. all you want, but this Las Vegas court and these prosecutors should not be permitted to use this present case in order to achieve the justice for Nicole’s murder,” he said.

What can turn into a key issue of the case is the ownership of the property. “You can’t rob something that is yours,” said Simpson attorney Galenter.

[William Anthony]

Some comments about the case.


Las Vegas attorney Chris Rasmussen has secured bail for hundreds of defendants charged with more serious crimes. “If this was a regular case, this would be gross misdemeanor with probation, maybe five years’ supervision. We have guys that shoot up 7-11s and they get out the next day.”

Former Clark County prosecutor, Amy Chelini, agreed, “Even the most serious charges, except for capital murder, get bail.”

New York defense lawyer Jeff Lichtman, who once represented John Gotti Jr., suggested that he believes the 1995 murders may have some influence over the heavy-handed prosecution.

“Despise O.J. all you want, but this Las Vegas court and these prosecutors should not be permitted to use this present case in order to achieve the justice for Nicole’s murder,” he said.

What can turn into a key issue of the case is the ownership of the property. “You can’t rob something that is yours,” said Simpson attorney Galenter.

I think there may have been some overcharging in the case. However, given the public's attitude toward Simpson, I think the charges will be sustained, a trial held and some appellate issues to be resolved. In the remote possibility that the armed robbery charge is dropped and, if he was charged with felony kidnapping, and, IIRC what the statue says, that might be hard to prove. However, it has been so long since there has been some posting on the information, I am unsure as to the charges. I guess we will know more in September.

Your post about the judge ordering Mr. Goldman to give the rolex back suggested to me that Nevada may not have a long arm statute law to enforce California's award for damages. If that is true, then they may be without jurisdiction to say that the property belonged to anyone but Simpson, unless there is some title to the property. The burden is on the prosecution to show that the property did not belong to Simpson and he had the intent to permanently deprive the owner of the property of the property. I do not think this case is as cut and dry as some.

[weezer]

I think there may have been some overcharging in the case. However, given the public's attitude toward Simpson, I think the charges will be sustained, a trial held and some appellate issues to be resolved. In the remote possibility that the armed robbery charge is dropped and, if he was charged with felony kidnapping, and, IIRC what the statue says, that might be hard to prove. However, it has been so long since there has been some posting on the information, I am unsure as to the charges. I guess we will know more in September.

Your post about the judge ordering Mr. Goldman to give the rolex back suggested to me that Nevada may not have a long arm statute law to enforce California's award for damages. If that is true, then they may be without jurisdiction to say that the property belonged to anyone but Simpson, unless there is some title to the property. The burden is on the prosecution to show that the property did not belong to Simpson and he had the intent to permanently deprive the owner of the property of the property. I do not think this case is as cut and dry as some.

IIRC, the rolex was returned when it was found to be a knock-off. I know, I know, the NG's will have a hard time believing orenthal would pretend to own something he doesn't but there you have it.

[martin II]

IIRC, the rolex was returned when it was found to be a knock-off. I know, I know, the NG's will have a hard time believing orenthal would pretend to own something he doesn't but there you have it.

I believe the person that had physical possession, two sellers, would have to show a sales receipt indicating they paid for the goods. If not they can be considered to have been stolen.

[weezer]

I believe the person that had physical possession, two sellers, would have to show a sales receipt indicating they paid for the goods. If not they can be considered to have been stolen.

seems to me that orenthal would have a police report describing the stolen items. if not, they can be considered to belong to the person(s) that had physical possession.

[martin II]

seems to me that orenthal would have a police report describing the stolen items. if not, they can be considered to belong to the person(s) that had physical possession.

Not really.
If i take your tv and for some reason you don't report it, it belongs to me right?

[Notknowingall]

Totally off topic. I don't care. There is someone calling him/herself 'Patricia' or perhaps 'Jesse' sending 'Hi I.m new messages' etc. Be warned. This is a hacker.

I have been following everyones' posts in here and am quite impressed by the views expressed. I have received the above message as well but opted to ignore it. I am trying to get caught up with the discussions and the details of this case before posting my thoughts and opinions.

[weezer]

Not really.
If i take your tv and for some reason you don't report it, it belongs to me right?

only in your world martin -- LOL

now, when you take Joe Montana's tv from my house at gunpoint, you've committed armed robbery.

Get the difference?

[tv]

I have been following everyones' posts in here and am quite impressed by the views expressed. I have received the above message as well but opted to ignore it. I am trying to get caught up with the discussions and the details of this case before posting my thoughts and opinions.Welcome to the forum Notknowingall. :)

[martin II]

only in your world martin -- LOL

now, when you take Joe Montana's tv from my house at gunpoint, you've committed armed robbery.

Get the difference?

It would not matter what i intended to commit if i made the mistake on entering your house as i am sure you would give me a shotgun blast to the belly when my right foot hit the treshold.You know shoot them on sight.hahaha

[martin II]

I have been following everyones' posts in here and am quite impressed by the views expressed. I have received the above message as well but opted to ignore it. I am trying to get caught up with the discussions and the details of this case before posting my thoughts and opinions.

We sound like a bunch of fools to some, but we are not really.Come on in.

[William Anthony]

I am going to ask all posters to drop all past grudges and start posting anew in a civil and respectful manner.

[William Anthony]

There is another relatively new member that has violated the rules and posted a link to their home page on reverse speech. I was disgusted to see the blatant posting of the most vile and reprehensible word in the English language, imho, posted on his home page on the link to Michelle Obama. I would ask the community to take a stand on this.

[weezer]

looks like orenthal's co-conspirators' plea deals are a topic on tv today

[weezer]

There is another relatively new member that has violated the rules and posted a link to their home page on reverse speech. I was disgusted to see the blatant posting of the most vile and reprehensible word in the English language, imho, posted on his home page on the link to Michelle Obama. I would ask the community to take a stand on this.

I don't go to sites that I'm not sure of and especially not to sites that posters I disagree with link BUT I'm much more concerned about the porno filth you brought to the board.

[weezer]

Looks like erhlich (sp) is accepting a plea deal. wonder if orenthal can spell 'uh-oh' --

[William Anthony]

I don't go to sites that I'm not sure of and especially not to sites that posters I disagree with link BUT I'm much more concerned about the porno filth you brought to the board.

You are truly a misguided individual. I have tried to be civil with you but this is the proverbial straw. I expect an apology.

[weezer]

You are truly a misguided individual. I have tried to be civil with you but this is the proverbial straw. I expect an apology.

and I would apologize why?

[William Anthony]

and I would apologize why?

For you blatantly false accusation. Might I suggest that you raise your head so that you can look over those big toes and see who brought the porn to the board.

[weezer]

For you blatantly false accusation. Might I suggest that you raise your head so that you can look over those big toes and see who brought the porn to the board.

you can be a really nasty little man. the porn I saw was in a post YOU posted.

[William Anthony]

you can be a really nasty little man. the porn I saw was in a post YOU posted.

I have heard the there are several very nasty little men in you lineage. However, I am not the one to engage in rumors and truly believe that some of them are of average height. I was not the one to bring the porn to the board. I expect an apology, as I have apologized for inadvertently responding to the porn, which caused it to be posted and asked for my response to be deleted along with the porn. In the neck of the woods from where I hail those are indicators of a big man. I suppose that in Texas those who do not apologize, even when they are wrong, could be called a big man but I am not sure. I thought it was a universal sentiment. However, I am of the opinion that Texas may be inhabited by a species that are contradictorily unique, judging solely from your conduct.

[weezer]

I have heard the there are several very nasty little men in you lineage. However, I am not the one to engage in rumors and truly believe that some of them are of average height. I was not the one to bring the porn to the board. I expect an apology, as I have apologized for inadvertently responding to the porn, which caused it to be posted and asked for my response to be deleted along with the porn. In the neck of the woods from where I hail those are indicators of a big man. I suppose that in Texas those who do not apologize, even when they are wrong, could be called a big man but I am not sure. I thought it was a universal sentiment. However, I am of the opinion that Texas may be inhabited by a species that are contradictorily unique, judging solely from your conduct.

YOU brought the porn to the board. I know you only have your 'learner's permit' in the law thing but even you should have learned by now that 'ignorance' is not a defense.

I would never presume that people from any 'neck of the woods' are all alike. But you're right -- Texas is a very unique place to be from -- humble, friendly, and wonderful people who live by a code that says a man 'is' his words and actions. As far as my lineage, you don't have a clue so for you to disrespect it is 'almost' funny.

[William Anthony]

YOU brought the porn to the board. I know you only have your 'learner's permit' in the law thing but even you should have learned by now that 'ignorance' is not a defense.

I would never presume that people from any 'neck of the woods' are all alike. But you're right -- Texas is a very unique place to be from -- humble, friendly, and wonderful people who live by a code that says a man 'is' his words and actions. As far as my lineage, you don't have a clue so for you to disrespect it is 'almost' funny.

You obviously have no knowledge of my character or my stature for you to refer to me as a nasty little man and for you to continue to make these false allegations about me shows that ignorance as a lack of a defense is not limited only to the law. Being man or woman enough to apologize when you are wrong is a universal concept showing the character of the particular individual. The opposite of that would be that those who fail to apologize when wrong have a defect in their character, i.e. stem from a lineage of people with little character, i.e. little people. I think that you are correct that Texas is a wonderful place to be from and, judging form your posts, they develop humbleness, cordiality and learn to speak the truth after leaving. Please, do not misunderstand, I am not judging your lineage. I was simply making observations and drawing reasonable inferences based on your posts on this board.

[weezer]

man they showed orenthal in the courtroom -- he looks awful.

[weezer]

*Snipped*". . .Please, do not misunderstand, I am not judging your lineage. I was simply making observations and drawing reasonable inferences based on your posts on this board.

really?

Originally Posted by William Anthony: ". . .I have heard the there are several very nasty little men in you lineage. However, I am not the one to engage in rumors and truly believe that some of them are of average height. . ."

[William Anthony]

*Snipped*

really?

Originally Posted by William Anthony: ". . .I have heard the there are several very nasty little men in you lineage. However, I am not the one to engage in rumors and truly believe that some of them are of average height. . ."

What's your point, as I said I did not believe the rumor?

[William Anthony]

man they showed orenthal in the courtroom -- he looks awful.

Not as bad as those feet, I hope. ;):cool:

[weezer]

What's your point, as I said I did not believe the rumor?

my point is simple: you can't be trusted to tell the truth. I know that sounds harsh but there's not an easier way to say it.

[William Anthony]

my point is simple: you can't be trusted to tell the truth. I know that sounds harsh but there's not an easier way to say it.

Considering the source and, using reverse speech, I am happy to know that I am very truthful. ;):cool:

[martin II]

you can be a really nasty little man. the porn I saw was in a post YOU posted.

for the last time
The porn was origionally posted by a person using the nic CAUMKSAH.
at post 5528

If you look at that post you can stop making this accusation of william.
i saw the porm before william responded his NOT INTERESTING ETC post.

[martin II]

man they showed orenthal in the courtroom -- he looks awful.

The fat toes represents what.

[weezer]

The fat toes represents what.

OT -- :no:

[William Anthony]

for the last time
The porn was origionally posted by a person using the nic CAUMKSAH.
at post 5528

If you look at that post you can stop making this accusation of william.
i saw the porm before william responded his NOT INTERESTING ETC post.

Tvdinner and I already had the discussion and I apologized for my inadvertence and she understood. It is just that one here, who, for some reason or another, seems jealous of my legal training and ability to support my arguments, wants to falsely blame me and also has been around while the post was still on the board by the poster who brought the porn to the board.

[martin II]

OT -- :no:

Previously others had asked me if i knew the meaning of the fat toes.
Having no answer i asked you.imo

[martin II]

Tvdinner and I already had the discussion and I apologized for my inadvertence and she understood. It is just that one here, who, for some reason or another, seems jealous of my legal training and ability to support my arguments, wants to falsely blame me and also has been around while the post was still on the board by the poster who brought the porn to the board.

I know this as i saw your apology to her and her post to you.

Weezer has made a serious claim against you which has been proven to be absolutely WRONG but you will be a old man i predict when she apologies or admit her mistake.imo

[martin II]

my point is simple: you can't be trusted to tell the truth. I know that sounds harsh but there's not an easier way to say it.

The above comment directed to another poster comming from YOU.

Unbelievable.
imo

[William Anthony]

I know this as i saw your apology to her and her post to you.

Weezer has made a serious claim against you which has been proven to be absolutely WRONG but you will be a old man i predict when she apologies or admit her mistake.imo

The poster made a remark about arrogance and ignorance walking hand in hand. I guess she walks with her hands held together.

[martin II]

man they showed orenthal in the courtroom -- he looks awful.

oj was in a los vegas court room today?
you got a link to that picture??

[weezer]

Previously others had asked me if i knew the meaning of the fat toes.
Having no answer i asked you.imo

gosh that's pretty silly -- I guess it has the same meaning as the fat man in your avatar.

[weezer]

oj was in a los vegas court room today?
you got a link to that picture??

he was in a 'las' vegas courtroom and it was on tv. I'm sure you'll have an opportunity to see it multiple times. he was doing a lot of 'puffing' through his lips -- LOL

[martin II]

gosh that's pretty silly -- I guess it has the same meaning as the fat man in your avatar.

Nope not the same at all.

The man in my avatar is Mr Charlie Mingus a world famous musician.

Now . what does those fat toes represent.

[martin II]

he was in a 'las' vegas courtroom and it was on tv. I'm sure you'll have an opportunity to see it multiple times. he was doing a lot of 'puffing' through his lips -- LOL

I looked at the Los Vegas newspapers and saw one paragraph but no picture of oj.

[weezer]

Nope not the same at all.

The man in my avatar is Mr Charlie Mingus a world famous musician.

Now . what does those fat toes represent.

never heard of him but I suppose you have him as your avatar because you want to. the same goes for the toes -- I want to.

[weezer]

I looked at the Los Vegas newspapers and saw one paragraph but no picture of oj.

I didn't see it on line -- I saw it on TruTV.

[martin II]

he was in a 'las' vegas courtroom and it was on tv. I'm sure you'll have an opportunity to see it multiple times. he was doing a lot of 'puffing' through his lips -- LOL

Weezer

Here is a link to the oj story of today.

I don't think oj was in court today as you believe.

The picture in this link is from january 08 file picture.. not today.

sorry.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,397063,00.html

[martin II]

never heard of him but I suppose you have him as your avatar because you want to. the same goes for the toes -- I want to.

Nope

I have him as a avatar because Charles was a respected world wide musician and a loved living hero to music lovers most every where. It is in memory of him and his music.imo
It has nothing to do with fat toes.believe me.

martin II

[weezer]

Weezer

Here is a link to the oj story of today.

I don't think oj was in court today as you believe.

The picture in this link is from january 08 file picture.. not today.

sorry.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,397063,00.html

he wasn't dressed like in the newspaper photo but the pic may have been from one of his other appearances -- maybe when his bail was raised? The way the video was done, it sure looked like he was sitting right there.

[weezer]

Nope

I have him as a avatar because Charles was a respected world wide musician and a loved living hero to music lovers most every where. It is in memory of him and his music.imo
It has nothing to do with fat toes.believe me.

martin II

the point is martin you have a picture of a fat guy because you want to and I have a picture of fat toes because I want to.

[martin II]

I didn't see it on line -- I saw it on TruTV.

weezer
here is another todays story .
Picture is from last years kentucky derby.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/more/08/04/simpson.defendant.ap/index.html

[weezer]

weezer
here is another todays story .
Picture is from last years kentucky derby.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/more/08/04/simpson.defendant.ap/index.html

I've seen that picture also. what I saw today was not a picture but a clip (maybe) and it was of orenthal in a courtroom with attorneys. I'm guessing it was from his appearance when his bail was raised since none of the articles say he was in the courtroom today. hmmmm

[martin II]

the point is martin you have a picture of a fat guy because you want to and I have a picture of fat toes because I want to.

Fact is that Charles lifted weights. So he was more muscle than fat.But since you never heard of him you would not know that.imo

I think there would be many reasons why you would like those kind of toes.imo:cool:

[William Anthony]

Fact is that Charles lifted weights. So he was more muscle than fat.But since you never heard of him you would not know that.imo

I think there would be many reasons why you would like those kind of toes.imo:cool:

Those toes seem to lift a lot of weight, imho. ;):cool:

[SlowHandSam]

Those toes seem to lift a lot of weight, imho. ;):cool:

would both of you stop with this stupid nonsense.

The question was answered, y'all volleyed, she volleyed and then said "because she likes them".

DROP IT already. You're off topic.

[William Anthony]

would both of you stop with this stupid nonsense.

The question was answered, y'all volleyed, she volleyed and then said "because she likes them".

DROP IT already. You're off topic.

Blah, blah, blah. ;):cool: Didn't you say that I couldn't take what was dished out? Wasn't that in regard to off topic discussions? Why have you only asked me and martin to drop the off topic discussions?