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Spencer33
11-14-2007, 04:32 PM
Again, thanks, Odette.

I'm newer to this case than some of the posters here, so I didn't know anything about her troubled childhood. I also didn't know she had one brother in prison. Very sad.

And I can certainly see why he appealed to her now. I already knew it wasn't his looks! Nor his personality. LOL! Men like that know how to find the women who will put up with their BS. If they marry them young enough, the women often don't know what hit them for many years. Stacy seemed to have wised up relatively young and was apparently planning on leaving him. I'm sure he couldn't "allow" that.

I have a question... did Drew actually get the million dollar payment from the 3rd wife's insurance policy? I hope not, but I have a feeling he did.

Spencer33
11-14-2007, 04:34 PM
Thanks, One2Snoop! There's apparently so much I haven't read that has already come out. That man has nerve... that much I can tell you!

Blonde
11-14-2007, 05:05 PM
Another Update on Sgt. Peterson’s Resignation - and A Disappointed Police Chief
by Greta Van Susteren


(Above pic is the Chief of Police in Bolingbrook, Illinois)

All day long I have been blogging about the acceptance of Sgt. Peterson’s resignation from the police department — the acceptance of the resignation opposed by the Chief of Police. The Chief wants to conduct a full investigation of Sgt. Peterson and can’t do it if Peterson is allowed to resign and is no longer on the police force.

I now have a copy of the letter that Chief Raymond J. McGury sent the Members of the Board of Fire and Police Commission — who overruled the Chief thus making way for the resignation of Sgt. Peterson.

Here is a quote from the Chief’s letter -

“[a]s the Chief of the Department, I deserve the opportunity to do the right thing. For these reasons, I will not accept Sgt. Peterson’s resignation. You may choose to do so. I will await your decision.”

And, as noted above, he was overruled and Sgt. Peterson resigned and there will be no internal investigation of Sgt. Peterson.

A copy of the letter was sent to Mayor Roger Claar, Village Attorney James Boan, and BPD Command Staff.

Post your comment to this blog entry …right here….and we hope to have MORE information tonight at 10pm ON THE RECORD


________________________________________________

odette
11-14-2007, 06:46 PM
Again, thanks, Odette.

I'm newer to this case than some of the posters here, so I didn't know anything about her troubled childhood. I also didn't know she had one brother in prison. Very sad.

And I can certainly see why he appealed to her now. I already knew it wasn't his looks! Nor his personality. LOL! Men like that know how to find the women who will put up with their BS. If they marry them young enough, the women often don't know what hit them for many years. Stacy seemed to have wised up relatively young and was apparently planning on leaving him. I'm sure he couldn't "allow" that.

I have a question... did Drew actually get the million dollar payment from the 3rd wife's insurance policy? I hope not, but I have a feeling he did.

Spencer, the below article, from which I've quoted a part of, will help you regarding the finances.

Court filings tell story

By STEWART WARREN STAFF WRITER - November 6, 2007

JOLIET -- Although we don't know much about Stacy Peterson's disappearance, we know other things.

They are found in files at the Will County Courthouse.

Excerpt: Division of property issues

The will names James B. Carroll, Drew Peterson's uncle, executor of the estate, according to a document filed in court by Kavanagh, who apparently had some concerns.

"After my appointment as administrator, I conferred with attorney Harry Smith with respect to the status of the property settlement portion of the divorce proceeding ... (He) advised me that there were three major issues with respect to the division of property ... 1. Whether Kathleen's estate would be entitled to any portion of Drew Peterson's pension; 2. The valuation of the business known as the Blue Lightning Corp., which has been sold with all of the proceeds going to Drew Peterson; and 3. The value of the house, and whether Kathleen Peterson's estate would be entitled to receive not only her one-half of the proceeds of any sale, but an additional portion of the remaining one-half as an offset for the cash taken by Drew Peterson from the sale of the (bar)," Kavanaugh wrote in court documents.

On April 8, 2005, Will County Judge Michael Powers entered a judgment in the financial aspects of the divorce case. It awarded Drew Peterson the Blue Lightning Corp. and all the proceeds from the sale of the couple's home, according to the court documents filed by Kavanagh. The judgment also mentions what seems to be a fourth life insurance policy.

"(It) provided that Drew Peterson would not be obligated to fund any college expenses for the minor children of the parties due to the fact that life insurance on the life of Kathleen in the amount of $1 million had been payable to the children," according to the document.

As part of the judgment, Carroll agreed that some money from Savio's estate should go to someone other than the four children. "The effect of the judgment was to transfer anywhere from $144,117.65 to $288,235.31 (one-half to all of the proceeds of the home sale) from the four children who were the beneficiaries of the estate ... to Drew Peterson," according to court documents.

http://www.suburbanchicagonews.com/heraldnews/news/636553,4_1_JO06_MISSING_S2.article

odette
11-14-2007, 06:54 PM
Fox News - Gretawire

November 14th, 2007 5:09 PM Eastern
Wednesday GretaCast: Click and Eavesdrop!
by Greta Van Susteren

Here is the latest GretaCast…..this is your chance to eavesdrop on the conversation I had with OTR Producer Steph Watts who is on the ground in Bolingbrook, Illinois….

Click on the blue box….and after listening, post your comment…I am curious what you have to say….

http://gretawire.foxnews.com/

odette
11-14-2007, 07:34 PM
Again, thanks, Odette.

I'm newer to this case than some of the posters here, so I didn't know anything about her troubled childhood. I also didn't know she had one brother in prison. Very sad.

And I can certainly see why he appealed to her now. I already knew it wasn't his looks! Nor his personality. LOL! Men like that know how to find the women who will put up with their BS. If they marry them young enough, the women often don't know what hit them for many years. Stacy seemed to have wised up relatively young and was apparently planning on leaving him. I'm sure he couldn't "allow" that.

I have a question... did Drew actually get the million dollar payment from the 3rd wife's insurance policy? I hope not, but I have a feeling he did.

Spencer, I see here from an article today that DP mentions that the insurance money is in a "protected account".

Peterson to missing wife: 'Come home'

chicagotribune.com - David Elsner - November 14, 2007

Excerpt: Peterson acknowledged in the interview that there were unusual circumstances surrounding his third wife's death, but nevertheless was critical of Tuesday's exhumation.

'It's a shame her rest in peace has to be disturbed for something like this,' he said.

He acknowledged that there had been a $1 million dollar payout on her life insurance, but said the money had gone to his children and was in a 'protected account.'

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-peterson-interview_webnov15,0,508730.story?coll=chi_tab01_l ayout

One2Snoop
11-14-2007, 08:13 PM
I was just watching the video from the Today Show and DP is now saying the email that Stacy sent to her friend is made up. :eek: Well that can be easily verified by looking at the headers and checking her computer. He should know that. :no:


On Oct. 17, she e-mailed a family friend, expressing concern over her deteriorating relationship with her husband. The e-mail was provided by the friend, Steve Cesare, to the Naperville Sun.

"I have been arguing quite a bit w/my husband," Stacy Peterson wrote.

"As i mature with age I am finding that the relationship iIam in is controlling, manipulative and some what abusive," she wrote in the e-mail dated Oct. 17. ". . . tomorrow is our 4 year anniversary and I am not as excited as the years that have past.

". . . If you could keep me in your prayers I could use some wisdom, protection, and strength."

odette
11-14-2007, 08:43 PM
The media is shining a HUGE spotlight on DP and he doesn't like it one little bit. He has no control whatsoever over the media and he is a man who loves to be 'in control'.

JMHO

NBC5

When Lauer asked Peterson his purpose for coming on TV, Peterson was very clear: To get the media off his back.

"I'm not afraid of law enforcement, I'm afraid of the media,"

Bosco said it isn't any wonder Peterson is afraid of the media.

"My position on that is because he's slipped by law enforcement so many times in the past, he's not slipping by the public," Bosco said.

http://www.nbc5.com/news/14598988/detail.html?dl=mainclick

odette
11-14-2007, 08:53 PM
abclocal.go.com - November 14, 2007

Excerpt: Peterson described both his wives as emotionally unstable. He blamed it all on hormones, a statement that disgusted Stacy's family and friends.

"I also think that every woman in America should be appalled that that was his direction. That while she had a PMS issue, she wanted a divorce. I think he should be ashamed of himself," said family riend Sharon Bychowski.

Stacy Peterson's best friend said she believes the real motive for Drew Peterson to go on national television was to meet Matt Lauer and also to look for a national criminal defense attorney. Drew Peterson did plead for someone out there to take his case.

http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?section=local&id=5761304

Spencer33
11-14-2007, 08:57 PM
Maybe with any luck that idiot Mark Geragos will take Drew Peterson's case. He did a good job putting Scott behind bars (unintentionally, of course!), so maybe he could do the same for Drew. JMHO.

Aslan
11-14-2007, 09:38 PM
There was the interview with him on the today show..this man seems to lack even a basic moral compass.
All who think he didn't kill his wife, raise your hand.

*crickets chirp*

odette
11-14-2007, 10:36 PM
North American Missing Persons Network

http://i5.tinypic.com/6sb8tae.jpg
Christie Marie Cales

http://www.nampn.org/cases/cales_christie.html

odette
11-15-2007, 04:20 AM
Scroll down to the section where Drew Peterson is discussed at the below llink.

NANCY GRACE

Judge Rules O.J. Simpson to Stand Trial; Stacy Peterson Update

Aired November 14, 2007 - 20:00:00 ET

THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.

Excerpt: BROOKS: Exactly. I want to go out to Pat Brown, criminal profiler and author of "Killing for Sport."

Pat, as a profiler, do you think that other profilers working on this particular case and investigators are going to be going over this interview with a fine toothed comb looking for what?

PAT BROWN, CRIMINAL PROFILER: This is a great interview. It is going to be used for education for years to come. Essentially we have one that`s acting like a psychopath. In the sense that he seems to not understand what is the normal answer. In other words, he wants to give the right answer. The right answer being something that`s going to snow us, not the truthful answer.

He says a lot of interesting things. He says, for example, he told his story to the police about what happened. A story? Not what happened, but a story? He also doesn`t seem to know that his wife found somebody else. I guess she only found somebody but she didn`t actually see them when she found them. That makes no sense.

He`s got enough inconsistencies and strange statements in his stories that it doesn`t sound like a person just sitting there telling the truth. It sounds like a person that`s trying to play was and prove himself to be innocent and try to sway the future jury.

Excerpt: BROOKS: ....... Right now I want to go to Dr. Jake Deutsch joining us here in New York, doctor of emergency medicine. Dr. Deutsch, thanks for being with us. After three years what kind of shape is the body going to be in?

JAKE DEUTSCH, DOCTOR OF EMERGENCY MEDICINE: You would think there would be some sort of decomposition of the tissue, however the body is in a vault. So it`s a cement case that`s actually going to do a lot of protecting and avoid any of the decomposition that you would expect to see. I think all eyes are on the medical examiner. Because they`re really going to be looking at cause of death here.

Clearly there is a question about the drowning. They`re going to need to look at things, for head injuries, cervical injuries and poisoning. Those are the things I think are going to lead this case in a different direction.

BROOKS: Now, it was ruled accidental by drowning. But apparently she was found in this bathtub and her hair was still wet and she had a laceration on the back of her head but she also contusions over other parts of her body. Now after this much time, are these contusions still going to be present?

DEUTSCH: Unlikely. Contusions are a self eliminating injury. However, the injuries to the bones, the head injuries, the spinal injuries, those certainly would be evident from this autopsy. The other things they could be looking at are possible poisonings, so looking for signs of poisoning in some of the remaining tissue or even the bone would be the job of the toxicology people that are involved in this case.

BROOKS: Now do they get it from bone marrow to conduct the toxicology report? What kind of tissue would there be left on -- I know it`s not pleasant to talk about, especially with her nephew with us, Michael Lisak, it`s not pleasant for her family to go through this. But what kind of tissue would be president, still?

DEUTSCH: In the best case scenario, hair fibers, any soft tissue, skin, muscle, anything that may contain the DNA, most likely bone tissue, so bone marrow unlikely to be viable at this point. But the other bone tissue may be able to be used in this case.

BROOKS: Now in a statement today that was put out by Patrick O`Neal (ph) who`s the coroner for Will County in Illinois. He said, "At this time there`s nothing to contradict a change relative to drowning as a cause to Kathleen Savio`s death."

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0711/14/ng.01.html

oops
11-15-2007, 09:30 AM
My Favorite Profiler is Clindt Van Zandt he chimes in on Drew Peterson .............
Why it makes sense to suspect Drew Peterson
Van Zandt: Threats, mysterious death of third wife make cop likely suspect
SNIP............

COMMENTARY
By Clint Van Zandt
MSNBC
updated 4:56 p.m. CT, Tues., Nov. 13, 2007


Clint Van Zandt

“If I tried to leave him, he said he’d kill me.”

Those were the words allegedly spoken by 23-year-old missing mother of two, Stacy Peterson, to a friend and neighbor about a threat her 53-year-old husband Drew Peterson made.

On Oct. 26, Stacy told Drew she wanted a divorce. Two days later she was gone. Her policeman husband suggests that she has left for personal reasons in the past, and that he suspects she has either run off on her own or run away with an unnamed man. No evidence of either scenario has yet been discovered.


What is it, though, in Sgt. Peterson’s background that would make him any more of a person of interest in his wife’s disappearance than the statistical probability ascribed to any other spouse or partner of a missing person?

Common sense would support her husband knowing something more about her disappearance than is publicly known. Consider the following:

Sgt. Peterson is 30 years his wife’s senior, having met and allegedly dated her when she was 17 and while he was still married to his then 40-year-old wife, Kathleen Savio. Stacy Peterson is Sgt. Peterson’s fourth wife and he has a total of eight children.
A history of deceit: Sgt. Peterson allegedly told Stacy he was single when he was still married to his third wife. Other wife-killers have told similar lies concerning their marital status, like Scott Peterson who told Amber Frey he was a widower.
Sgt. Peterson allegedly threatened and beat his third wife, Kathleen, who he married less than three months after his second divorce. Of the 18 individual reports of domestic abuse from their household, at least half were related to allegations of physical abuse by one or both parties to the marriage.
After his divorce from Kathleen, who once had a domestic protection order against him, Sgt. Peterson attempted to have his $2,000-per-month child support payment reduced, to no avail. Kathleen continued to live in the house in which she, Sgt. Peterson and their two children resided at the time of her untimely death. At this point, she was in legal action to receive part of Sgt. Peterson’s anticipated retirement pension.
Kathleen Savio's death
On the weekend of her 2004 death, Kathleen is believed to have turned over her two children to Sgt. Peterson. When he later returned the children to his former residence, he was unable to get into the house. So he, an experienced police officer, went to a neighbor’s residence for help. The neighbor called a locksmith who responded and unlocked the door to the residence.

The neighbor entered the house and found Kathleen dead in an empty whirlpool-style bath tub. Her head reportedly showed signs of trauma and there was blood in her wet hair. Because her hair was wet and her fingers were wrinkled, the local medical examiner ruled her tragic death to be accidental, saying the water had probably slowly leaked away from the tub.

Kathleen had made notes concerning her fights with her former husband — just in case, according to her sister, something happened to her.

A pattern of behavior?
Stacy Peterson told relatives she was afraid of her husband. Sgt. Peterson had allegedly monitored and limited his current wife’s telephone and social contacts, “watching her every move,” even to the extent of allegedly following her as she went to class at a local college. He previously refused to allow her to visit her sister in a nearby community and had allegedly threatened her on more than one occasion. Stacy had told a number of friends that if anything happened to her it was not an accident; her husband, who had allegedly beaten her in the past, would kill her.

Stacy Peterson was said to be a good mother to her two children with Sgt. Peterson and the two children she was raising from his previous marriage to Kathleen. Family and friends say she would never run off and leave her children. She was, however, according to friends and relatives, depressed concerning the deaths of two of her sisters, one by SIDS and one in a fire.

CONTINUED: The challenge for investigators
Sgt. Peterson acknowledges a telephone call from Stacy on the day of her disappearance in which she allegedly indicates that she was leaving him. It is unknown if this call has been verified by independent investigation.

In an e-mail to a friend, Stacy described her husband as “controlling, manipulative and somewhat abusive,” asking her friend to pray for her for wisdom, protection and strength.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21773405/
***NOTE I am sorry I just went back and saw that Spencer has already put Van Zandt's comments but I can't delete it!

oops
11-15-2007, 09:35 AM
oops, I surely hope that they nail this individual!!! .. I'd really like to know more about this barrel that he allegedly got someone to help him shift out of the house on the Sunday.

JMHO

Odette I want to know more about the barrell that the next door neighbor, SHaron said was at the home of Drew Peterson and NOW IT"S GONE!! I beleive Drew had help and maybe this person will turn against him at some point! W0NDER how his brother did at the Grand Jury hearing yesterday went??? MOO

odette
11-15-2007, 10:01 AM
Odette I want to know more about the barrell that the next door neighbor, SHaron said was at the home of Drew Peterson and NOW IT"S GONE!! I beleive Drew had help and maybe this person will turn against him at some point! W0NDER how his brother did at the Grand Jury hearing yesterday went??? MOO

oops .. I have read so much about "the blue barrel" which was always in the yard and has now disappeared. Whether or not someone helped DP carry it out of the house I just don't know? .. (wish I did) ..

Did you see the video of the brother? .. I posted the link to the video in the "News Updates" thread earlier on today. He's not very happy with the media.

http://boards.crimelibrary.com/showpost.php?p=9057190&postcount=15

JMHO

oops
11-15-2007, 10:12 AM
oops .. I have read so much about "the blue barrel" which was always in the yard and has now disappeared. Whether or not someone helped DP carry it out of the house I just don't know? .. (wish I did) ..

Did you see the video of the brother? .. I posted the link to the video in the "News Updates" thread earlier on today. He's not very happy with the media.

http://boards.crimelibrary.com/showpost.php?p=9057190&postcount=15

JMHO
Yes Odette I watch CBS2 Chicago religiously so I did see Drew's brother and that is why Peterson went on Today show because he wants the media to go AWAY! I have news for them until Stacey is found that isn't going to happen. I just hope there will be a turnover on the decision of the Mayor to let Drew retire the meeting is Tuesday nite I wish I could go that will be a packed meeting. I just hope the Chief will be able to get it overturned. What is wrong with this Mayor anyway??? I pray for the Chief to overturn this ruling!
I forgot to mention that when Drew testified at the Grand Jury he took the 5th Ammendment I wonder if his brother did the same thing??? MOO

oops
11-15-2007, 10:23 AM
Breaking News........
http://cbs2chicago.com/
CBS is reporting on their site that...........
At least one set of human remains has been found in at Route 83 and Archer Avenue in unincorporated Cook County near Lemont.............. Now they are saying 2 bodies??
*** Note that would be fairly close to Bollingbrook my Hubby use to work in Lemont and went to school in Lockport only miles away from Bolingbrook! Stay tuned..................
Here is a video
http://cbs2chicago.com/video/?id=37304@wbbm.dayport.com

odette
11-15-2007, 10:25 AM
Yes Odette I watch CBS2 Chicago religiously so I did see Drew's brother and that is why Peterson went on Today show because he wants the media to go AWAY! I have news for them until Stacey is found that isn't going to happen. I just hope there will be a turnover on the decision of the Mayor to let Drew retire the meeting is Tuesday nite I wish I could go that will be a packed meeting. I just hope the Chief will be able to get it overturned. What is wrong with this Mayor anyway??? I pray for the Chief to overturn this ruling!
I forgot to mention that when Drew testified at the Grand Jury he took the 5th Ammendment I wonder if his brother did the same thing??? MOO

Is this a special meeting in Bolingbrook to discuss the Mayor's decision regarding DP's resignation?

Spencer33
11-15-2007, 10:29 AM
Yes Odette I watch CBS2 Chicago religiously so I did see Drew's brother and that is why Peterson went on Today show because he wants the media to go AWAY! I have news for them until Stacey is found that isn't going to happen. I just hope there will be a turnover on the decision of the Mayor to let Drew retire the meeting is Tuesday nite I wish I could go that will be a packed meeting. I just hope the Chief will be able to get it overturned. What is wrong with this Mayor anyway??? I pray for the Chief to overturn this ruling!
I forgot to mention that when Drew testified at the Grand Jury he took the 5th Ammendment I wonder if his brother did the same thing??? MOO

ITA! What is wrong with a lot of the people involved in this City's LE? Obviously, there are many warning signs at present that Stacy did not walk away from this marriage as Drew is alledging. However, the warning signs that the previous wife (Savio) did NOT accidentally drown in a bathtub with NO water are almost too much to even comprehend. She had a huge amount of phone calls to police over abuse (something like 18?). She had a restraining order (or something to that effect) against him. She had told friends and family that if anything were to happen to her that it would NOT be an accident, even though he would try to make it look like that. He had told her he would kill her, and she had told family. There were unaccounted for bruisings and marks on her body at the time she was found. Her tongue was found clenched between her teeth at the time of death (which would not be its position if someone drowned. There was no water in the tub and no doubt no tests were done to see at what rate the water seeped out of the tub.

Just where were the heads of all of the people in Bollingsbrook who SHOULD have made sure further investigations were done into the 3rd wife's death? What was the Coroner thinking when he decided it was an accidental drowning? Were they covering up for one of their own, or were they all that stupid?

I applaud the fact that they have now exhumed Savio's body, but it's now been 3 years and vital clues are probably gone. Where was this kind of interest in her death 3 years ago? Why has it taken the disappearance of his 4th wife to call attention to the death of his 3rd wife.

There were so many clues in the death of Savio and yet every single one of them was overlooked or brushed under the carpet. That is truly unconscionable, IMO.

JMHO.

oops
11-15-2007, 10:31 AM
Is this a special meeting in Bolingbrook to discuss the Mayor's decision regarding DP's resignation?
Yes it is Odette on Drew's resignation because of the Internal Affairs investigation ongoing they don't want him to be able to resign because that would mean anything that if they found ~~anything as a result of the investigation they wouldn't be able to continue it is unrelated to Stacy's missing. They decided to investigate Drew Peterson after all this about Stacy and wife #4 Kathy died mysteriously. IMO

odette
11-15-2007, 10:42 AM
Yes it is Odette on Drew's resignation because of the Internal Affairs investigation ongoing they don't want him to be able to resign because that would mean anything that if they found ~~anything as a result of the investigation they wouldn't be able to continue it is unrelated to Stacy's missing. They decided to investigate Drew Peterson after all this about Stacy and wife #4 Kathy died mysteriously. IMO

Thanks for that oops .. very interesting.

tsky
11-15-2007, 10:47 AM
They replayed some of the interview this morning on the Today Show and Matt asked if he knew the man she ran away with and he said ‘No’ and Matt asked if she specifically told him she was running away with another man and he said “No.”

If he doesn’t know who the man is and was not specifically told she was leaving with another man why is he so sure she ran away? And why is he talking about needing legal help, the death penalty and the welfare of his children in his absence if she is alive and well and he had nothing to do with it? I haven’t seen a more guilty person taking the American public for fools since Bundy, Scott Peterson and MacDonald. This man should fry.

Pak31
11-15-2007, 10:48 AM
Yes it is Odette on Drew's resignation because of the Internal Affairs investigation ongoing they don't want him to be able to resign because that would mean anything that if they found ~~anything as a result of the investigation they wouldn't be able to continue it is unrelated to Stacy's missing. They decided to investigate Drew Peterson after all this about Stacy and wife #4 Kathy died mysteriously. IMO

Oh my gosh, this is killing me. I live in Bolingbrook, not far from Stacy's home. This is all happening around me. So it is very surreal. But, I watched Mark Fuhrman last night and he said for the police chief to want to keep Drew from retiring, then there must be some really really big stuff as far as the investigation they want to do goes. Mark said it would be absolutely ridiculous for the mayor to grant his request to resign. They would never be able to investigate the supposed crime. Mayor Claar has done so much to make Bolingbrook a better town, for him to dismiss this would be such a bad move on his part. I know that he is probably extremely upset with all the bad publicity that the city is getting but he'd look a lot better if he weeded out all the bad seeds, so to speak. I will lose a lot of faith in the whole "system" if they let this monster retire.
Also, as far as the email to Stacy's friend being fabricated. I mean, of course Drew would say that, but the friend said he swears on a stack of bibles that it's real and he'll do whatever it takes to prove it. More convincing than anything Drew says. Just the fact that he laughed when he told her to come home yesterday makes my skin crawl. This guy needs to be stopped quick. As far as Drew's brother, of course he will stick up for him. The man who discovered Kathleen's body, I don't feel comfortable with him either. He's obviously a friend of Drew's but he seems off to me. He even said he couldn't believe they were looking into Kathleen's death again because he didn't see any blood or bruises. He said the things that the reports are saying about her condition in the tub didn't look that way to him. Strange.

Spencer33
11-15-2007, 10:49 AM
Breaking News........
http://cbs2chicago.com/
CBS is reporting on their site that...........
At least one set of human remains has been found in at Route 83 and Archer Avenue in unincorporated Cook County near Lemont.............. Now they are saying 2 bodies??
*** Note that would be fairly close to Bollingbrook my Hubby use to work in Lemont and went to school in Lockport only miles away from Bolingbrook! Stay tuned..................
Here is a video
http://cbs2chicago.com/video/?id=37304@wbbm.dayport.com

I want to be excited about this news but I sure can't understand how there could be TWO bodies if it's Stacy. I can't imagine who the 2nd body was, unless it was her mother... and she disappeared a few years before Drew started dating Stacy.

Thanks so much, Oops, for all of the local updates... I'll be waiting for your next one to see what these possible two bodies might mean to this case.

oops
11-15-2007, 11:00 AM
ITA! What is wrong with a lot of the people involved in this City's LE? Obviously, there are many warning signs at present that Stacy did not walk away from this marriage as Drew is alledging. However, the warning signs that the previous wife (Savio) did NOT accidentally drown in a bathtub with NO water are almost too much to even comprehend. She had a huge amount of phone calls to police over abuse (something like 18?). She had a restraining order (or something to that effect) against him. She had told friends and family that if anything were to happen to her that it would NOT be an accident, even though he would try to make it look like that. He had told her he would kill her, and she had told family. There were unaccounted for bruisings and marks on her body at the time she was found. Her tongue was found clenched between her teeth at the time of death (which would not be its position if someone drowned. There was no water in the tub and no doubt no tests were done to see at what rate the water seeped out of the tub.

Just where were the heads of all of the people in Bollingsbrook who SHOULD have made sure further investigations were done into the 3rd wife's death? What was the Coroner thinking when he decided it was an accidental drowning? Were they covering up for one of their own, or were they all that stupid?

I applaud the fact that they have now exhumed Savio's body, but it's now been 3 years and vital clues are probably gone. Where was this kind of interest in her death 3 years ago? Why has it taken the disappearance of his 4th wife to call attention to the death of his 3rd wife.

There were so many clues in the death of Savio and yet every single one of them was overlooked or brushed under the carpet. That is truly unconscionable, IMO.

JMHO.
SPENCER

It has been reported here that the City of Bollingbrook is corrupt and also Will Co I live in the County next to them and Drew is very friendly with the Mayor he seems to be protecting him.
I Thank the Lord that the Chief of Police seems to be a good guy as Greta Von Sustern says. I hope this meeting next Tuesday will have good results.JHMO

oops
11-15-2007, 12:02 PM
I preface this report it may not be Stacy Peterson I can't imagine 2 bodies found unless like Spencer said it is Stacy and her mother who has been missing for quite awhile I doubt it is Stacy though. But here is the report and video next to the report..........
2 Bodies Found At Suburban Excavation Site
Sheriff's Police, Medical Examiner On Scene
Reporting
Kris Habermehl LEMONT TOWNSHIP, Ill. (CBS) ― Two sets of human remains have been found at an excavation site in southwest suburban Cook County between Burr Ridge and Lemont.

The bodies were discovered at 7:30 a.m. at the site just off Route 83 and Jean Road, near Archer Avenue, by construction workers arriving for the day, Cook County sheriff's police spokeswoman Penny Mateck said.

The site is in the river basin between the Sanitary and Ship Canal and the Des Plaines River. Crews are working to pave a bike path at the site.

The remains were covered in sheets and blankets, and it was not learned if that happened before or after the people died. It appeared also that one set of remains was bound by either cords or rope.

There was no indication of the identification of the dead, or they died.

Cook County sheriff's police detectives and county Medical Examiner's office investigators were on the scene as of 8:30 a.m. They were examining tire tracks and other trace evidence near the scene and taking photographs.

There was no immediate evidence that the bodies found were related to any current missing persons cases.
http://cbs2chicago.com/local/bodies.found.lemont.2.568417.html

oops
11-15-2007, 12:11 PM
UPDATE:
The Illinois State Patrol Is Asking The St. Louis County in Minnesota Search Squad For Help

YouNewsTV™Story Published: Nov 13, 2007 at 7:18 PM EST

Story Updated: Nov 13, 2007 at 7:18 PM EST
By KBJR News 1

The St. Louis County search and rescue squad has been called to assist in one of the most talked about cases in the country today.
23–year–old Stacy Peterson of Illinois has been missing for over two weeks.

The Illinois State Patrol contacted the St. Louis County Rescue Squad due to its expertise and advanced equipment.

"We've been very successful in search efforts here in St. Louis County, and in Northeastern MN and I think the authorities in Illinois are aware of our track record," said St. Louis County Sheriff Ross Litman.

Stacy Peterson's sister has said she believes Stacy was stalked by her husband Drew Peterson who is a sergeant in the Bolingbrook, Illinois police department.

Stacy was last seen on October 28th.

Her car was found near a pond in Bollingbrook. Authorities believe her body may be in that pond.

Suspicion was cast on Drew Peterson who was in the process of a divorce from Stacy.

Drew has been married three times. One of his former wives was found dead in a bathtub in 2004.

That death was initially ruled accidental but Stacy's disappearance has re–opened the case.

Saint Louis County's expertise is in underwater searches.

The squad has both a remotely operated underwater vehicle and a sonar scanner and has become proficient in dangerous underwater searches.

"Any time you put a dive team under water or ice you are taking a risk. Diving is dangerous," said St. Louis County Sheriff Ross Litman.

The squad plans to stay in Illinois for the remainder of the week.

In the wake of Stacy's disappearance, Peterson's first wife's body was exhumed today for further investigation.
http://www.northlandsnewscenter.com/news/local/11252616.html

oops
11-15-2007, 12:15 PM
This is Not Stacy Peterson............


Two bodies were discovered this morning in Southwest suburban Lemont.
(NBC5)
Bodies of two men found along Lemont path
The bodies of two unidentified men were discovered about 7:30 a.m. near a walking path in Southwest suburban Lemont, sources said. Construction crews working in the area found the bodies near the path located at Rt. 83 and Jean Road along the Cook and DuPage County border. The bodies allegedly were covered by blankets or a tarp, according to an official.
http://www.suntimes.com/index.html

oops
11-15-2007, 12:20 PM
Body language experts: 'Something doesn't smell right'

November 15, 2007
BY SHAMUS TOOMEY Staff Reporter/stoomey@suntimes.com
NBC's Matt Lauer told Drew Peterson he seemed "extraordinarily calm and collected." Body language experts aren't so sure.

After watching the interview, Lillian Glass said Peterson's hard swallowing, clenched jaw, rigid posture, shoulder movements and more left her unconvinced about what Peterson told Lauer.


Bolingbrook Police Sgt. Drew Peterson appeared in an exclusive interview with NBC's Matt Lauer on the "Today" show. Peterson told Lauer he had nothing to do with either of the incidents surrounding his current and former wife.

Another expert, Kevin Hogan, said Peterson's rapid eye blinking could indicate nervousness -- or deception.

Glass, also a communication psychologist, took issue with what Peterson said and how he said it, including focusing on himself more than his missing wife. "When you look at all of those, your gut reaction is, something doesn't smell right," Glass said.

Sitting rigid in his chair suggested Peterson was trying to control himself, she said. Lifting his shoulders during answers suggested he wasn't telling the truth, she said.

Hogan found it odd that Peterson laughed after asking his wife to "come home."

"Is he guilty of the disappearance, I don't know," Hogan said
http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/652052,CST-NWS-body15.article

Spencer33
11-15-2007, 12:47 PM
Here's an interview Greta did with the man that found Savio's body:

STEVE CARCERANO, FOUND SAVIO'S BODY: How're you doing, Greta?

VAN SUSTEREN: I'm doing very well. So you got called to the grand jury today. Did you actually get a chance to testify?

CARCERANO: No, I didn't . I pretty much sat there for three-and-a-half hours and waited until next week.

VAN SUSTEREN: Did they explain to you why they never got to you?

CARCERANO: There was a couple of other individuals that went before me. Two other jurors (ph) were called in, one of them being Drew's brother, Paul, today, that weren't there last week. And they didn't say why they didn't get to the last three people.

VAN SUSTEREN: How long was Paul in there, could you estimate?

CARCERANO: Approximately 40 minutes, something like that.

VAN SUSTEREN: Where you called last week to the grand jury, or is this the first time you've been called?

CARCERANO: No, I was called last week, as well, but didn't get a chance to speak last week, either.

VAN SUSTEREN: So I bet you're pretty happy you get dragged down there every Wednesday and you get to sit around and wait. I bet that makes you happy.

CARCERANO: Yes, well, next week, I'm going to bring Portillos' (ph) hot dogs or something while I wait.

VAN SUSTEREN: Well, believe me, nobody likes sitting around the grand jury or anyplace. I mean, I would not be ecstatic about that. But anyway, we'll move on. You've been talking to Sergeant Peterson, haven't you.

CARCERANO: Correct.

VAN SUSTEREN: When was the last time you talked to him?

CARCERANO: I talked to him earlier today when he was in New York. As everybody knows he was on the "Today" show this morning. Had a brief conversation with him at that point.

VAN SUSTEREN: Did he call you or did you call him?

CARCERANO: I called him.

VAN SUSTEREN: What'd he have to say about — what'd he say about his own appearance?

CARCERANO: He asked me what I thought of it. I thought he did a good job. You have to understand that he has the pressure of the world on him right now, and for him to get on a flight and show his face for the world and give his side of the story, I thought that was very commendable.

VAN SUSTEREN: Did he say how he actually felt he did, though? I mean, I understand that he now has asked you how you thought he did, but did he say anything about it?

CARCERANO: He felt he did a good job.

VAN SUSTEREN: What did he say about Matt Lauer's questions?

CARCERANO: He thought they were asked very professional. He was very satisfied with Matt Lauer's interview.

VAN SUSTEREN: Is he now back home, or is he still in New York?

CARCERANO: I don't know the answer to that question.

VAN SUSTEREN: Did he tell you what his plans were?

CARCERANO: No, he did not. He said he was still in New York. When I was on the phone with him, he didn't tell me if he was coming tonight or not.

VAN SUSTEREN: All right. Now, prior to this morning, when was the last time you talked to him?

CARCERANO: I talked to him last night when he landed in New York. He gave me a call.

VAN SUSTEREN: Has he ever told you — has he ever discussed Stacy with you?

CARCERANO: No, he hasn't.

VAN SUSTEREN: Has he ever — I mean, I know that he feels like the media is dogging him and being unfair to him. Does he ever talk about that with you?

CARCERANO: Absolutely. He's very upset with the media. He asked me the other day to express to the media to, you know, stay away from his house for a while so he can get some semblance of a family back with his kids. He has two small children — well, 13 and 14, they go to school with my kids, and it's very difficult right now.

VAN SUSTEREN: Now, you — the way that you were sort of brought into this story, for better or for worse, is because you found Kathleen Savio in the tub, is that right?

CARCERANO: Yes, that is correct.

VAN SUSTEREN: Since that event in March of 2004, have you been regular friends with Sergeant Peterson, or just your kids sort of — your kids just hang out together?

CARCERANO: The kids go to school together. We have — -my wife and I have been to Sergeant Peterson's house with Stacy for a barbecue, and the kids went swimming. But I would say that we — Drew and I talk on occasion.

VAN SUSTEREN: Think Stacy would walk out on her kids?

CARCERANO: I don't know the answer to that question. I'm, you know, hearing everything after the fact. I was not around that day, so I don't know the particulars.

VAN SUSTEREN: Steve, thank you. And I hope next week, when you go to the grand jury, they have you testify, or at least not make you go sit there until it's your turn. Thank you, Steve.

CARCERANO: Thank you, Greta, very much. All your people have been great to work with.



http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,311815,00.html

I may be wrong, but this man (neighbor) seems very supportive of Drew. I can't even imagine using the word "commendable" as it applied to anything Drew has done since October 28. Oh well... I probably shouldn't shoot the messenger! LOL!

oops
11-15-2007, 12:52 PM
****NOTE.....THIS doesn't sound good having to wait till the springtime to look for Stacey Peterson. But we do get days that are mild still just having a cold spell today but I beleive the temps will go up again soon.
-------------------

OTR Producer has been on the ground in Bolingbrook, Illinois since almost the day Sgt. Peterson’s wife Stacy vanished…he just sent me this email (and in my effort to give you the behind the scenes, I am posting his email to me):

From: Watts, Stephen
To: Van Susteren, Greta
Sent: Thu Nov 15 11:48:34 2007
Subject: Thursday Not Good News From Bolingbrook

Its bitter cold today in Bolingbrook and that’s not good news for searchers as most of their efforts are focused on bodies of waters. Its been almost 20 days since Stacy Peterson went missing. Once the cold weather takes hold, freezing the lakes and ponds and snow begins to accumulate it will push the search for stacy off to the spring. This leaves little hope for investigators, stacys family and everyone involved.
http://gretawire.foxnews.com/2007/11/15/just-in-email-from-otr-producer-steph-watts/#comments

oops
11-15-2007, 12:55 PM
Here's an interview Greta did with the man that found Savio's body:



http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,311815,00.html

I may be wrong, but this man (neighbor) seems very supportive of Drew. I can't even imagine using the word "commendable" as it applied to anything Drew has done since October 28. Oh well... I probably shouldn't shoot the messenger! LOL!
Spencer you are so right this man seems to be FRIENDS with Drew Peterson I saw that interview but he said Yes we are neighbors and our children go to school with Drew's older children. His interviews seem to be too friendly with DP. I came away with the same impression you did after this interview. JMO

oops
11-15-2007, 01:40 PM
Drew's TV plea to Stacy: 'Come home'
'TODAY' INTERVIEW | Peterson blames her 'menstrual cycle' for their marital problems

November 15, 2007
BY SHAMUS TOOMEY AND DAN ROZEK Staff Reporters
Drew Peterson, with an awkward smile, told his missing fourth wife to "come home, tell people where you are" during a live "Today" show interview Wednesday in which he blamed Stacy Peterson's "menstrual cycle" for her repeated requests to end their marriage.

"I'm not trying to be funny here, but Stacy would ask me for a divorce after her sister died, on a regular basis," Peterson told NBC's Matt Lauer, who questioned him for nearly 20 minutes. "And it was based on her menstrual cycle."


Drew Peterson on NBC's "Today Show" Wednesday. The Illinois police officer who resigned after being named a suspect in the disappearance of his fourth wife said that she had asked him for a divorce - but he thought it was due to hormones.
(AP/NBC)

"He tries to explain that it was because of a menstrual cycle? That's the most ridiculous thing I ever heard. It doesn't explain what happened to Stacy," said Pam Bosco.

Drew Peterson, 53, a Bolingbrook police sergeant, is a suspect in his 23-year-old wife's disappearance. She went missing Oct. 28, causing authorities to take a second look into the death of his third wife, who was found in a bathtub in 2004. Her body was exhumed Tuesday.

With media camped outside his house, Peterson flew to New York for the NBC interview. He told Lauer he was going on camera to "get the media off my back."

He showed little emotion, looked into the camera to make points several times and made a plea for legal help. He also denied having any role in either Stacy Peterson's disappearance or Kathleen Savio's death.

"I can look right in your eye and say I had nothing to do with either of those incidences," he said.

Bosco dismissed the interview as a Peterson attempt to drum up legal support but said she was surprised by his demeanor. "I think a normal human being would have been more emotional," she said.

A Savio relative said Peterson's comments were not "a big deal."

"It didn't have an impact at all because it was all bull - - - -," said Savio's nephew Charles Doman, 33. "It was just Drew being Drew."

During the interview, Peterson denied abusing Stacy Peterson and dismissed as "made up" an e-mail Stacy Peterson's friend Steve Cesare said he received from her Oct 17. It described her relationship with Peterson as "somewhat abusive."

"I think this was fabricated," Drew Peterson said.

Cesare responded by saying, "I know in fact those are real. I'll swear on a stack of Bibles, I'll go on a polygraph, I'll do anything."

Meanwhile, Drew Peterson's brother Paul appeared before a Will County grand jury Wednesday, according to Peterson's neighbor Steve Carcerano, who was to testify but was told to come back.

Paul Peterson declined comment.

Drew Peterson submitted his resignation this week, but Bolingbrook Police Chief Ray McGury refused it, saying he wants Peterson to face department disciplinary hearings.
http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/651839,CST-NWS-boling15.article

Robyn
11-15-2007, 03:10 PM
This is some case. I wonder how it will end? Proving that Sgt killed his 3rd wife will be super hard. Even if the procecution proved she was murdered, they will still have to connect the Sgt to it. We know why but how and can they prove he did it is another question. This whole story has me on pins and needles.

tsky
11-15-2007, 04:01 PM
This is some case. I wonder how it will end? Proving that Sgt killed his 3rd wife will be super hard. Even if the procecution proved she was murdered, they will still have to connect the Sgt to it. We know why but how and can they prove he did it is another question. This whole story has me on pins and needles.

Same here. However, I think they will find the 4th wife's body and convict him on that case. In the past, every time an arrogant fool decided to speak to the press and mock the intelligence of the police, he got caught someway, somehow. I doubt it will be any different for this goon.

Spencer33
11-15-2007, 04:13 PM
Same here. However, I think they will find the 4th wife's body and convict him on that case. In the past, every time an arrogant fool decided to speak to the press and mock the intelligence of the police, he got caught someway, somehow. I doubt it will be any different for this goon.

ITA! Bigger fools than him have fallen, and he will fall, too. Trying desperately hard to wrap my brain around the act of killing a spouse (and not succeeding!), I truly have to wonder where the active brain cells are for a man who thinks, "gee, I killed my other wife and got away with it so now I think I'll do it again". Myself, if I had gotten away with it, I would NOT tempt fate again. But not these fools. They apparently tell themselves how clever they are and how if they did it once, they can do it again. Morons!

JMHO.

tsky
11-15-2007, 04:55 PM
ITA! Bigger fools than him have fallen, and he will fall, too. Trying desperately hard to wrap my brain around the act of killing a spouse (and not succeeding!), I truly have to wonder where the active brain cells are for a man who thinks, "gee, I killed my other wife and got away with it so now I think I'll do it again". Myself, if I had gotten away with it, I would NOT tempt fate again. But not these fools. They apparently tell themselves how clever they are and how if they did it once, they can do it again. Morons!

JMHO.

So true Spence. And if by chance he didn't kill his 3rd wife, which I believe he did, but if by chance he didn't, he certainly had something to do with the disappearance of this one and I believe justice will be served. The great thing is that it seems the police, even his boss, are hell bent on making him answer for the disappearance of his 4th wife. He doesn't seem to have many allies these days. Certainly his speaking on talk shows and never pleading with his wife to come home to their kids is a red flag. Another red flag is his willingness to entertain the death penalty, prison and being away from his kids. Why would he even speak on that subject if he is positive she is alive? I think I literally hate this man.

Spencer33
11-15-2007, 05:42 PM
So true Spence. And if by chance he didn't kill his 3rd wife, which I believe he did, but if by chance he didn't, he certainly had something to do with the disappearance of this one and I believe justice will be served. The great thing is that it seems the police, even his boss, are hell bent on making him answer for the disappearance of his 4th wife. He doesn't seem to have many allies these days. Certainly his speaking on talk shows and never pleading with his wife to come home to their kids is a red flag. Another red flag is his willingness to entertain the death penalty, prison and being away from his kids. Why would he even speak on that subject if he is positive she is alive? I think I literally hate this man.

I'm right behind you on disliking him. Actually, I've seen nothing thus far to even like. He's arrogant, condescending, full of himself, and an obvious woman hater. I could have smacked him right there on the TV when he started talking about Stacy being hormonal. Idiot!

And, like you, I'm still reeling from his talk about the death penalty, prison, etc. That does not match up with everything else he said and, IMO, just reeks of guilt.

I also applaud the actions of the Chief of Police. No matter what might have been covered up previously, I think it's so important to hold him accountable this time. He is most likely a murderer and thus deserves everything the law can throw at him.

Blonde
11-15-2007, 06:01 PM
Greta has her convo with Rick Mims posted now ...

November 15th, 2007 2:27 PM Eastern

Thursday GretaCast: Eavesdrop On My Conversation with Ric Mims
by Greta Van Susteren


If you have ever investigated a missing person or a crime, you know that often you just have to be persistent. You never know when you will learn that additional piece of information that solves the entire matter. It can be tedious and it often requires to re-investigate and re-investigate and re-investigate…etc.

It also requires re-interviewing people….helping people remember things…..helping to trigger their memories.

Moments ago I spoke to Ric Mims — a friend to Stacy and Drew Peterson and the person closest to Sgt. Peterson in the first few days after Stacy vanished. To give you the inside story, you can eavesdrop on my conversation with Ric by merely clicking on the blue box below:


Go this this link to listen !

http://gretawire.foxnews.com/2007/11/15/thursday-gretacast-eavesdrop-on-my-conversation-with-ric-mims/

ANYONE HERE THIS
The girlfriend. In a previous conversation Greta had with Ric, Ric mentioned that years ago Drew was dating a girl, I think her name was Monica. Monica's brother didn't approve of Drew dating her. The brother was found hanged in his garage and it was ruled a suicide. Friends didn't think he would kill himself. One of the first officers on the scene was Drew. This was many years ago, I think before marriage #3

Spencer33
11-15-2007, 06:32 PM
Blonde:
ANYONE HERE THIS
The girlfriend. In a previous conversation Greta had with Ric, Ric mentioned that years ago Drew was dating a girl, I think her name was Monica. Monica's brother didn't approve of Drew dating her. The brother was found hanged in his garage and it was ruled a suicide. Friends didn't think he would kill himself. One of the first officers on the scene was Drew. This was many years ago, I think before marriage #3


Geez, there's no telling how many he may have killed over the years. If it could be proven that he actually met Stacy earlier than he did, I would certainly suspect him in the disappearance of Stacy's mother. This guy might require a new category for the Behavioral Analysis Unit at Quantico... perhaps Serial Lover Killer?

Blonde
11-15-2007, 06:45 PM
" I would certainly suspect him in the disappearance of Stacy's mother."
I was thinking the same thing

Blonde
11-15-2007, 08:25 PM
It Is Happening! Tune in to ON THE RECORD at 10pm Tonight For All The Latest Details!!
by Greta Van Susteren
PROGRAMMING NOTE: DR. BADEN WILL BE ON “ON THE RECORD” at 10pm EASTERN….

We have just learned that yes, Dr. Baden, will be doing an autopsy on Kathleen Savio — Sgt. Drew Peterson’s wife #3 who has been exhumed. He is doing it on behalf of her family — not on behalf of the prosecutor. The prosecutor has his own medical examiner doing one. The question, as you know, is the cause and manner of death. Was her death an accident? or a homicide? We know that there was some leaking into the casket over the years so there will be a great challenge for the medical examiners than if the casket had been perfectly sealed….more information to come…



Be sure to tune in tonight at 10pm eastern for ALL the information!!!

Spencer33
11-15-2007, 08:41 PM
I just read on another location that I'm not alloed to copy from that another member of law enforcement that KNEW Drew Peterson sat on the the jury/panel (not sure of the correct word) that was charged with deciding whether the pathogy evidence in Kathleen's death was enough to pursue a homicide investigation or leave it as an accidental death. That smacks of corruption to me, if it's true.

Spencer33
11-15-2007, 10:49 PM
Pulling part of this article from the news update thread on this case...

CHICAGO -- The husband of missing woman Stacy Peterson told NBC 5 on Wednesday at O'Hare airport the media is still terrorizing his family.

http://www.nbc5.com/news/14610863/detail.html


Am I the only one to wonder how this guy could say in one breath that the media is terrorizing his family and then jet off to NY to appear on a MAJOR media network to tell the world that very thing? That's insanity to me. If you don't want the media around you, you don't use a major media network to announce it.

Personally, I think the reason he went on the Today Show was to put out his plea for a lawyer to take his case.

This guy makes me ill. Just the idea that he was jetting off to NY and was on a TV show, and then was brazen enough to say he liked his hotel accommodations... while his 3rd and 4th wives have probably already drawn their last breath and will never take another trip, makes my blood run cold.

oops
11-15-2007, 10:57 PM
Pulling part of this article from the news update thread on this case...



Am I the only one to wonder how this guy could say in one breath that the media is terrorizing his family and then jet off to NY to appear on a MAJOR media network to tell the world that very thing? That's insanity to me. If you don't want the media around you, you don't use a major media network to announce it.

Personally, I think the reason he went on the Today Show was to put out his plea for a lawyer to take his case.

This guy makes me ill. Just the idea that he was jetting off to NY and was on a TV show, and then was brazen enough to say he liked his hotel accommodations... while his 3rd and 4th wives have probably already drawn their last breath and will never take another trip, makes my blood run cold.
Spencer you are soo right about him jetting off to NY I heard that he is doing Dateline and some other shows while he is there I beleive Greta talked to someone today that said he is still in NY doing other shows! Maybe he is looking for wife #5??? THIS GUY MAKES ME PUKE SHADES OF ISP if you ask me!! JMO

odette
11-15-2007, 11:02 PM
Pulling part of this article from the news update thread on this case...



Am I the only one to wonder how this guy could say in one breath that the media is terrorizing his family and then jet off to NY to appear on a MAJOR media network to tell the world that very thing? That's insanity to me. If you don't want the media around you, you don't use a major media network to announce it.

Personally, I think the reason he went on the Today Show was to put out his plea for a lawyer to take his case.

This guy makes me ill. Just the idea that he was jetting off to NY and was on a TV show, and then was brazen enough to say he liked his hotel accommodations... while his 3rd and 4th wives have probably already drawn their last breath and will never take another trip, makes my blood run cold.

Spencer33 - Personally, I think the reason he went on the Today Show was to put out his plea for a lawyer to take his case.

I totally agree .. It was ALL about Drew .. "I .. myself .. and me" .. all the way.

FWIW .. he makes me ill as well. A very scary individual.

JMHO

Spencer33
11-15-2007, 11:24 PM
I apologize if this was already posted today...

November 15, 2007 - A police pension board met Thursday over whether Drew Peterson is entitled to his police pension. Peterson turned in his resignation as a Bolingbrook Police sergeant after he was named a suspect in the disappearance of his wife. Stacey Peterson has been missing for more than two weeks.

Because drew Peterson is over the age of 50 and has given over 20 years of service to the Bolingbrook Police Department, the board said, by law, they did have to vote to grant him his full pension. One board member said, because of the circumstances, she wasn't comfortable doing so, but the law is the law.

Drew Peterson is a 39-year veteran of the Bolingbrook Police Department. His years of service entitle him to a $6,000-a-month pension. It is money he is fighting to keep.

"The only thing that would operate to take away his pension, for Sergeant Peterson or any other police officer, is a felony conviction that is related to his employment. It has to be a job-related felony," said Richard Reimer, attorney for Bolingbrook Police pension board.

Even if Peterson is fired from the force, he still would be entitled to his pension, unless he is convicted of a job-related felony, which the Bolingbrook pension board would have to define.

"If there was evidence, and there was a conviction that somehow he used or misused his police authority, that would be something the board would consider that could be considered a job-related felony that could cause him to lose his pension," said Reimer.



http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?section=local&id=5764203

If that isn't enough to make you ill... he's going to get his $6,000 a month pension. Geez, where is the justice.

oops
11-16-2007, 08:04 AM
Drew Peterson was on Dan Abrams show last nite on MSNBC. What a piece of work this guy is! Talking about Stacy in the past tense.
Here is the link to the Video
http://video.msn.com/?mkt=en-us&brand=msnbc&tab=m5&rf=http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3096434/&fg=&from=00&vid=e57e3968-a5c3-4a17-92bd-8c5c1d6e556e&playlist=videoByTag:mk:us:vs:0:tag:Source_Abrams_R eport:ns:MSNVideo_Top_Cat:ps:10:sd:-1:ind:1:ff:8A

Spencer33
11-16-2007, 08:43 AM
Drew Peterson was on Dan Abrams show last nite on MSNBC. What a piece of work this guy is! Talking about Stacy in the past tense.
Here is the link to the Video
http://video.msn.com/?mkt=en-us&brand=msnbc&tab=m5&rf=http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3096434/&fg=&from=00&vid=e57e3968-a5c3-4a17-92bd-8c5c1d6e556e&playlist=videoByTag:mk:us:vs:0:tag:Source_Abrams_R eport:ns:MSNVideo_Top_Cat:ps:10:sd:-1:ind:1:ff:8A
But how can that possibly be.... he's already told us she's just off with a new man and will be back home as soon as she's finished being hormonal! Surely being hormonal doesn't mean you need to refer to someone in the past tense.

Oh, please, somebody arrest this man today and get him off of the airwaves (since he so intensely dislikes the media) and off the streets, too.

oops
11-16-2007, 10:42 AM
But how can that possibly be.... he's already told us she's just off with a new man and will be back home as soon as she's finished being hormonal! Surely being hormonal doesn't mean you need to refer to someone in the past tense.

Oh, please, somebody arrest this man today and get him off of the airwaves (since he so intensely dislikes the media) and off the streets, too.

IIRC- Spense DP is putting the nails in his coffin everytime he speaks to the MEDIA. His day will come I feel it I just hope they find Stacey better to try a person if they have the BODY! I Remember in the Holloway case it rings in my ears~~ NO BODY NO CASE! JMHO

Spencer33
11-16-2007, 10:57 AM
I understand he's also been interviewed by Dateline. Has anyone heard when that episode of Dateline will air? I wouldn't want to miss this goon taking yet another opportunity to discuss his wive's hormonal imbalances.

Hopefully, every time he's given an opportunity to talk he will continue being so arrogant that he doesn't realize he's revealing more and more about himself with every word he allows to escape from his mouth. Sociopaths don't know how "real people" act, so they learn to imitate real people. Unfortunately, they are not capable of picking up the finer nuances of how people react under stress or in situations that require real grief and real emotions. Thus, when they are caught in that kind of situation, they fail miserably every time. I expect DP to continue making a public fool of himself with each opportunity that comes his way. And the great news is that he is so "full of himself" that he doesn't have a clue he's doing it.

sweetgranny
11-16-2007, 11:12 AM
I understand he's also been interviewed by Dateline. Has anyone heard when that episode of Dateline will air? I wouldn't want to miss this goon taking yet another opportunity to discuss his wive's hormonal imbalances.

Hopefully, every time he's given an opportunity to talk he will continue being so arrogant that he doesn't realize he's revealing more and more about himself with every word he allows to escape from his mouth. Sociopaths don't know how "real people" act, so they learn to imitate real people. Unfortunately, they are not capable of picking up the finer nuances of how people react under stress or in situations that require real grief and real emotions. Thus, when they are caught in that kind of situation, they fail miserably every time. I expect DP to continue making a public fool of himself with each opportunity that comes his way. And the great news is that he is so "full of himself" that he doesn't have a clue he's doing it.
Isn't this the truth! I have watched him on the Today show and then have seen excerpts over and over again and I saw a "never before seen" excerpt on Dan Abrams last night. He is a full-fledged jacka**!

oops
11-16-2007, 11:16 AM
I understand he's also been interviewed by Dateline. Has anyone heard when that episode of Dateline will air? I wouldn't want to miss this goon taking yet another opportunity to discuss his wive's hormonal imbalances.

Hopefully, every time he's given an opportunity to talk he will continue being so arrogant that he doesn't realize he's revealing more and more about himself with every word he allows to escape from his mouth. Sociopaths don't know how "real people" act, so they learn to imitate real people. Unfortunately, they are not capable of picking up the finer nuances of how people react under stress or in situations that require real grief and real emotions. Thus, when they are caught in that kind of situation, they fail miserably every time. I expect DP to continue making a public fool of himself with each opportunity that comes his way. And the great news is that he is so "full of himself" that he doesn't have a clue he's doing it.
Spence not only did he go on Today show Dan Abrams but he also did Dateline not sure when it will air he also went on AMC too~~ here is the article.....
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Prime Suspect Talks To AMW; Blames Missing Wife For "Circus"

Courtesy: MyFoxChicago.com


View LargerDisgraced Bolingbrook Police officer Sgt. Drew Peterson opened the floodgates on November 14th when he went on both NBC's Today and Dateline NBC, and now the once camera-shy suspect has spoken with AMW Correspondent Jon Leiberman.

Leiberman says Peterson was calm, cool, collected, and even cordial during their November 15 conversation. Leiberman started off by asking Peterson if he wanted his wife back. Peterson responded "Whether or not I want Stacy back now is questionable. It would take a lot of talking for me to take her back."

Leiberman told Peterson it sounded like he was angry with his wife. Peterson replied that he was. "I'm angry with Stacy," he said, "because I have this circus surrounding me and my family."

Leiberman confronted Peterson point-blank: "Did you have anything to do with the death of Kathleen or the disappearance of Stacy?" he asked.

Peterson said very clearly, "I had nothing to do with either."

Responding to similar questions from Matt Lauer on Today, Peterson told him that it wasn't unusual for his wife to ask for a divorce and that it was "based on her menstrual cycle." Peterson insisted that he thinks Stacy has left him for another man and laughing, asked her to "come home."
The Savio family, reacting to the news, told AMW that the exhumation is "bittersweet because we will have to bury Kathleen again."
Cops: Husband Is A Suspect In Wife's Disappearance

Stacy's family says she would never leave her children behind and they fear the worst.
View LargerStacy Peterson, the 23-year-old wife of longtime Bolingbrook, Ill. police officer Sgt. Drew Peterson, vanished on Sunday, October 28, 2007. Cops say that Stacy may have left the house in a jogging suit and was supposed to be headed to a relative's home. She never made it.

Sgt. Peterson claims he received a phone call from Stacy on Sunday at 9 pm. But, no one else heard from her after a Sunday morning phone call with relatives.

Stacy's family has asked the Illinois State Police to look into her disappearance since her husband is a cop with the local police department. State Police Commander Carl Dobrich announced that the Bolingbrook police officer is indeed a suspect in Stacy's disappearance
More at site........
http://www.amw.com/missing_persons/case.cfm?id=50297

Spencer33
11-16-2007, 01:13 PM
This article asks some of the same questions I'm asking...

Did Police Officers Protect Drew Peterson?

Third Wife Appealed for Help From Police
During Peterson's marriage to Savio, police responded to at least five domestic violence calls at their home.

"Drew grabbed her and put a knife to her throat and he threatened to kill her," Savio's sister Sue Doman told "Good Morning America" Thursday. "She told me that she feared for her life."

Her sister says Savio felt unprotected and afraid. She kept notes about what happened, filed for an order of protection against her husband and even sent letters to a local prosecutor complaining about the police.

"There have been several times throughout my marriage with this man where I ended up at the emergency room," she wrote in one letter. "And I have reported this only to have the police leave my home without filing any reports."

In another note, she wrote, "He knows how to manipulate the system, and his next step is to take my children away, or kill me instead."




http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=3874806&page=1

If you go to this url, you will see a picture of Drew that will make you ill. He is disgusting to look at... and how he ever found 4 women to marry him is beyond me.

BTW, the part about the police force possibly protecting Drew is about half-way down the page. The first part is stuff we've read over and over.

oops
11-16-2007, 01:14 PM
Drew Peterson's second wife tells her story
She recalls he threatened to kill her, make it look like an accident

By Erika Slife | Tribune staff reporter
November 16, 2007
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For the last two weeks, Vicki Connolly has watched in disbelief and with conflicting emotions as controversy swirls around her ex-husband, Bolingbrook police Sgt. Drew Peterson.

She doesn't know whether he had anything to do with the disappearance of his current wife, Stacy Peterson, who has been missing since Oct. 28, or the death of his third wife, Kathleen Savio, who died mysteriously in 2004.

But in the first interview granted by one of his ex-wives since Stacy's disappearance, Connolly, 48, said Thursday that during their marriage an increasingly controlling Peterson told her he could kill her and make it look like an accident. While she couldn't believe he would ever do it, something prompted her to confide in Bolingbrook police officers who she considered friends. "So they would know he said these things to me," she said
She said Peterson would hit her but not hard enough to go to the hospital, and not often enough for her to expect it. It made it worse, she said, that she never knew it was coming. "It was mind games; it was head games," she said.

Peterson, who did not return phone calls Thursday, has denied being abusive to Savio or Stacy Peterson.

Police have described Peterson, 53, as a suspect in 23-year-old Stacy's disappearance and are reinvestigating Savio's death. Will County State's Atty. James Glasgow said her death appeared to have been staged as an accident. Savio's body was exhumed Tuesday.

Peterson, who is not charged with any crimes, has denied involvement in both cases.

"He has the experience, the knowledge, the means, and the mind to do that," she said, her voice trailing off. "That's all I've thought about. ... I'm still working through it. I'll be honest."

This much Connolly knows: She was married to Peterson for 10 years, beginning in 1982. They raised each other's children from previous marriages. They operated a bar together. She stuck by him through his infidelities and during legal problems in the 1980s -- until she finally "caught him cheating on me with someone with my own eyeballs."

"The thing with Drew Peterson, and I'm sure if [Savio and Stacy Peterson] were here to comment they would say the same thing, when it was good, it was wonderful, it was great," Connolly said. "But when it was bad, it was really bad."

She met Peterson in a Bolingbrook bar in the early 1980s. She was there with her friends to see a favorite band.

"This man, just oozing of confidence, he wanted to dance with me and buy my girlfriends drinks," she recalled. "And he set his eyes on me and it was like he was going to get me. He couldn't get me to move in with him fast enough."

At the time, she was married, a relationship that was already ending. She said it was only three or four months after her divorce that she moved in with Peterson. He was so persistent, she said.

"He thought he took me away to a better life. He definitely felt that way. It's ironic," she said. "In his eyes, he did believe that."

It's a pattern Peterson continued in his next two relationships, she said.

Several days after his wife's disappearance, Peterson told the Tribune that when he met Stacy, he had an "uncontrollable need to take care of her." On Wednesday, Peterson told the "Today" show that both Stacy and Kathleen came from troubled homes.

Henry Savio, Kathleen's older brother, disputed that assertion. "No, we're OK," he said. "She was a very strong woman." He added that Kathleen owned her own condo and worked as an accountant.

Connolly said she also was well off when she met Peterson. She had a steady job at a bank and drove a new car. But she thought it was romantic that he wanted to save her.

In hindsight, his motive is now clear, she said.

"I believe that man had a disease to his ego. He's a legend in his own mind," she said.

Part 2 @ site
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-peterson_16_nov16,0,5607495.story?page=1&coll=chi_tab01_layout

SimplySue
11-18-2007, 11:15 PM
http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&q=stacey+peterson+news&um=1&ie=UTF-8&ncl=1122898510&sa=X&oi=news_result&resnum=1&ct=more-results&cd=1

I've been sitting in the shadows quietly listening to this thread since a few days after Stacy disappeared.

I agree that it is starting to look like Mr. Peterson has been busy killing people for years. I hadn't heard about the brother of the ex hanging himself after voicing his disapproval of their relationship. :eek:

I've thought he killed Stacy's mother for awhile now. I don't know why really, but as soon as I read that she had vanished like Stacy has, I got the heebie jeebies.

I wonder how many more he has been in the immediate circle of friends/family members have mysteriously died or vanished?

He's slick though. He made sure he got that pension before a trial or anything like that happens.

He seems like such an arrogant ass to me. When he blames Stacy's menstral cycle for mood swings and abnormal behavior, I wanted to dive through my monitor and strangle him myself. :flamemad:

SimplySue
11-18-2007, 11:21 PM
By The Associated Press

The disappearance of Stacy Peterson, the wife of a suburban Chicago police officer, has triggered two investigations _ one into the fate of Peterson and the other into the death of Drew Peterson's ex-wife, Kathleen Savio. Below is a brief synopsis of what has happened since Stacy Peterson vanished:

_Oct. 29: Stacy Peterson reported missing, a day after she fails to show up to a relative's home.

_Nov. 2: Police search the home of Drew and Stacy Peterson. Police divers search a nearby pond and investigators use cadaver dogs.

_Nov. 6: Investigators execute another search warrant at the Peterson home.

_Nov. 9: Illinois State Police declare Drew Peterson a suspect in his wife's disappearance and say they've formally launched an investigation into the death of Peterson's previous wife, Kathleen Savio, saying it does not appear to be an accident as originally determined.

_Nov. 9: Judge signs order to exhume Savio's body.

_Nov. 12: Drew Peterson resigns from the Bolingbrook Police Department, where he's been an officer for 29 years.

_Nov. 13: Savio's body is exhumed and an autopsy is conducted.

_Nov. 14: Drew Peterson appears on NBC's "Today" show where he proclaims his innocence and reiterates his contention that Stacy Peterson left him for another man and is alive.

_Nov. 16: Forensic pathologist Dr. Michael Baden conducts autopsy on Savio's remains at the request of her family; says it looks like she was murdered.

A service of the Associated Press(AP)

zolagerminal
11-19-2007, 12:09 AM
Is anyone else suspicious of this "Steve Carcerano" who keeps popping up on news networks to defend Peterson? Is there much information on the nature of his relationship to Peterson, because I've heard on other forums that Drew might have paid off his gambling debts. I'm also a bit baffled by his description of the incident where Drew tackled Kathleen for no reason and how he (Steve) did nothing to help and in fact told his wife not to provide assistance either.

Spencer33
11-19-2007, 09:13 AM
Drew's first wife was interviewed on TV this morning (GMA?). She was very nice, very sweet, and said that she didn't experience any of the problems the other wives had. However, he was unfaithful with her, as he was with at least two other wives. Also, he seems to have had two children with each of his 4 wives, for a total of 8 children.

Drew was also interviewed on TV by Matt Lauer. However, this time Drew didn't have as much to say because he was accompanied by a squirrely little attorney who did not seem like the brightest bulb in the box. Also, Drew was interviewed from Bolingbrook, and not flown to NY again. Drew does appear to have lost a good deal of sleep (bags under his eyes big enough to pack some groceries in) and may even be on some kind of sedative.... his speech was both delayed and slow. Obviously, JMHO re the sleep and possible sedatives.

Spencer33
11-19-2007, 09:20 AM
http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&q=stacey+peterson+news&um=1&ie=UTF-8&ncl=1122898510&sa=X&oi=news_result&resnum=1&ct=more-results&cd=1

I've been sitting in the shadows quietly listening to this thread since a few days after Stacy disappeared.

I agree that it is starting to look like Mr. Peterson has been busy killing people for years. I hadn't heard about the brother of the ex hanging himself after voicing his disapproval of their relationship. :eek:

I've thought he killed Stacy's mother for awhile now. I don't know why really, but as soon as I read that she had vanished like Stacy has, I got the heebie jeebies.

I wonder how many more he has been in the immediate circle of friends/family members have mysteriously died or vanished?

He's slick though. He made sure he got that pension before a trial or anything like that happens.

He seems like such an arrogant ass to me. When he blames Stacy's menstral cycle for mood swings and abnormal behavior, I wanted to dive through my monitor and strangle him myself. :flamemad:


I would be more than glad to pin the disappearance of Stacy's mother on Drew, if I thought I could. It's hard to know at this point... he admits to dating her when she was 17, but her family says they started dating when she was 16. Even so, her mom disappeared when she was 15 (1999). Since they met at a motel where Stacy worked following her early (by one year) graduation from high school, I tend to doubt they started dating when she was 15 and still in high school. More than likely, he's just trying to insinuate that Stacy was just like her mom and "left home", never to be seen again. IOW, both women just up and disappeared on their own. JMHO.

Spencer33
11-19-2007, 09:26 AM
Another 'Today' appearance
November 19, 2007

Drew Peterson said today he was surprised by comments of his second wife, who has described Peterson as violent and threatening in an earlier interview.

Appearing on NBC's Today show this morning, Peterson said of his second wife Vicki Connolly: "I thought we were friends."

Mostly, though, Peterson was guarded during the appearance, with Peterson's lawyer either preventing him from answering questions or answering them for Peterson.
The lawyer, Joel Brodsky, said, "We don't expect to be charged" in either the disappearance of Peterson's fourth and current wife, Stacy, or the 2004 death of his third wife Kathleen Savio, who was found dead in her bathtub.

"This is out of control—a rush to judgement fueled by entertainment,'' Brodsky said of the swirling speculation that his client , a former police officer, is a killer.

NBC Today show host Matt Lauer grew impatient as Brodsky prevented his client from answering. But Peterson did say he was "worried" that Savio would not come back. He has maintained she ran away with a boyfriend.


http://www.suntimes.com/news/peterson/657518,peterson111907a.article

Spencer33
11-19-2007, 09:51 AM
You can watch Drew's 2nd appearance on the Today Show by going to this url and scrolling down about 2 inches until you see Video in blue ink.

http://www.nbc5.com/news/14636236/detail.html

SimplySue
11-19-2007, 10:10 PM
I would be more than glad to pin the disappearance of Stacy's mother on Drew, if I thought I could. It's hard to know at this point... he admits to dating her when she was 17, but her family says they started dating when she was 16. Even so, her mom disappeared when she was 15 (1999). Since they met at a motel where Stacy worked following her early (by one year) graduation from high school, I tend to doubt they started dating when she was 15 and still in high school. More than likely, he's just trying to insinuate that Stacy was just like her mom and "left home", never to be seen again. IOW, both women just up and disappeared on their own. JMHO.

Thanx for the info! For some reason I have been assuming she left after Stacey and Drew started dating. :tongue:

One2Snoop
11-19-2007, 10:20 PM
Just cathcing up on the news articles. Still no Stacey I see. :( This is very sad.

Spencer33
11-20-2007, 09:27 AM
For a man who so dislikes the media, he sure has put himself in front of every TV camera he can find. Not only did he have yet another interview with 2 major TV stations, but he was also interviewed and filmed for People Magazine. Considering his interviews offer absolutely nothing relating to Stacy's disappearance, one would have to assume his interviews are to boost his own ego and once again tell everyone how he's lost 30 pounds and is sporting bags under his eyes the size of pumpkins.

Whether the man is a cold-blooded murderer or not, he is disgusting... and I still shake my head wondering how he attracted 4 women in 10 lifetimes, let alone one lifetime.

JMHO.

Mrs_Potato
11-20-2007, 08:18 PM
Get this: How can so many not have found this!!! If you read the autopsy report on Kathleen, it is found to have a possible crucial mistake!

Upon opening and reading the Coroner's report my daughter discovered a mistake in the report. The time of death is listed as March 1, 2004 at 11:17pm and her autopsy completed at March 1, 2004 at 2:20pm. That means the autopsy was done while alive.

Fact is...she and I called Henry Savio the brother of the 3d wife (her autopsy) last night. (via 3-way)

Well, when she was calling on her cell phone...she did not block her number.

The family called her today to thank her very much and that they took it to the lawyers today to show. It's very possible that while they are charging the coroner and state botched up her autopsy that this could be the proven item needed to have the original null and void. The family thanked her over and again. Anytime a court document is in error, it can be legally thrown out of court and null and voided. Which means that the exhumed autopsy could replace the original one as cause of death without any court arguments against the original. Now how cool is that? No doubt I believe the family will finally get justice. Kudus to my daughter for her observation!!:D

One2Snoop
11-20-2007, 10:05 PM
Get this: How can so many not have found this!!! If you read the autopsy report on Kathleen, it is found to have a possible crucial mistake!

Upon opening and reading the Coroner's report my daughter discovered a mistake in the report. The time of death is listed as March 1, 2004 at 11:17pm and her autopsy completed at March 1, 2004 at 2:20pm. That means the autopsy was done while alive.

Fact is...she and I called Henry Savio the brother of the 3d wife (her autopsy) last night. (via 3-way)

Well, when she was calling on her cell phone...she did not block her number.

The family called her today to thank her very much and that they took it to the lawyers today to show. It's very possible that while they are charging the coroner and state botched up her autopsy that this could be the proven item needed to have the original null and void. The family thanked her over and again. Anytime a court document is in error, it can be legally thrown out of court and null and voided. Which means that the exhumed autopsy could replace the original one as cause of death without any court arguments against the original. Now how cool is that? No doubt I believe the family will finally get justice. Kudus to my daughter for her observation!!:D

Now that is cool! :beer: Thanks for sharing.

oops
11-21-2007, 07:55 AM
Get this: How can so many not have found this!!! If you read the autopsy report on Kathleen, it is found to have a possible crucial mistake!

Upon opening and reading the Coroner's report my daughter discovered a mistake in the report. The time of death is listed as March 1, 2004 at 11:17pm and her autopsy completed at March 1, 2004 at 2:20pm. That means the autopsy was done while alive.

Fact is...she and I called Henry Savio the brother of the 3d wife (her autopsy) last night. (via 3-way)

Well, when she was calling on her cell phone...she did not block her number.

The family called her today to thank her very much and that they took it to the lawyers today to show. It's very possible that while they are charging the coroner and state botched up her autopsy that this could be the proven item needed to have the original null and void. The family thanked her over and again. Anytime a court document is in error, it can be legally thrown out of court and null and voided. Which means that the exhumed autopsy could replace the original one as cause of death without any court arguments against the original. Now how cool is that? No doubt I believe the family will finally get justice. Kudus to my daughter for her observation!!:D
Wow Mrs Potatoe What a great find, Thank you for posting it I hope they can throw out the first Coroner's report and start fresh with these reports, esp.~DR BADEN"S REPORT. BTW Welcome to the CL!:rose:

Mrs_Potato
11-21-2007, 08:19 AM
Wow Mrs Potatoe What a great find, Thank you for posting it I hope they can throw out the first Coroner's report and start fresh with these reports, esp.~DR BADEN"S REPORT. BTW Welcome to the CL!:rose:

Thanks for the welcome! This case just turns my stomach. I think mainly because of his arrogance. There are so many signs and clues that it puzzles me how he has gotten away with so much arrogance and crap for so long? He gives good solid working policemen a bad name. That's for sure. There are so many "psychological" signs that he shows that makes him most certainly guilty in the eyes of all who are watching. His smugness, his lack of worry, his game-playing narcisstic ways with the media, his way of "acting" like he is buddying up to select media, his posing for People Magazine, and no doubt his ways of placing blame for everything on anyone and everyone else. I cannot believe his mother is that blind to him and would dare to come on national television and blame the victim. That kind of shows you were he is coming from. When they sentence him...they need to put her on National Tv too and to apologize to the family of Stacey and the family of Kathleen. Shame on her, too.

oops
11-21-2007, 08:30 AM
Thanks for the welcome! This case just turns my stomach. I think mainly because of his arrogance. There are so many signs and clues that it puzzles me how he has gotten away with so much arrogance and crap for so long? He gives good solid working policemen a bad name. That's for sure. There are so many "psychological" signs that he shows that makes him most certainly guilty in the eyes of all who are watching. His smugness, his lack of worry, his game-playing narcisstic ways with the media, his way of "acting" like he is buddying up to select media, his posing for People Magazine, and no doubt his ways of placing blame for everything on anyone and everyone else. I cannot believe his mother is that blind to him and would dare to come on national television and blame the victim. That kind of shows you were he is coming from. When they sentence him...they need to put her on National Tv too and to apologize to the family of Stacey and the family of Kathleen. Shame on her, too.
YOU ARE SO WELCOME Mrs Potato.......
DP is just mocking the Justice system and snidely welcoming the media that he proclaims he hates! He doesn't need a lawyer he is just putting the nails in his coffin everytime he speak to the media. I just hope they find Stacy soon. Did you notice How DP like to talk to the attractive women reporters Is he looking for #5 or does he have her already?? Yes about his Mom she is blindsided too and DP didn't get like this overnite he must have been like this when he was young too?? I just hope he isn't on National TV again I hope No One wants to hear from him again EVER, but if they do, his words can be used just like Scott Peterson against him in a court of Law! MOO

Mrs_Potato
11-21-2007, 08:39 AM
According to what I read this morning they are now interviewing an ex fiance in which he used his same tactics of stalking and even having her arrested for too many tickets that he would issue her for parking! At one point, they arrested her at work and put her in HIS patrol car! I'm sure that he thinks he can find number 5 and I'm sure there are some really lame women out there who would fall for him..........let's just hope and pray that doesn't happen!

oops
11-21-2007, 08:47 AM
According to what I read this morning they are now interviewing an ex fiance in which he used his same tactics of stalking and even having her arrested for too many tickets that he would issue her for parking! At one point, they arrested her at work and put her in HIS patrol car! I'm sure that he thinks he can find number 5 and I'm sure there are some really lame women out there who would fall for him..........let's just hope and pray that doesn't happen!
OMG I read about this today he just loves to stalk women doesn't he?? I think she is a hairdressor and he came to her place of work??. He feels so comfortable doing these kinds of things & getting away with it too?? I am glad he is off the Police force. Surely with his noterity in BB & the Nation he will have to go elsewhere to do his stalking but who in the US hasn't heard of DP by now?? I have followed this case because he is so much like SP it's pathetic it's like he must have followed SP case and we all know where he is now~~ I think his premise is NO BODY NO CASE! There must be a GOTCHA somewhere?? JMHO

Mrs_Potato
11-21-2007, 08:56 AM
OMG I read about this today he just loves to stalk women doesn't he?? I think she is a hairdressor and he came to her place of work??. He feels so comfortable doing these kinds of things & getting away with it too?? I am glad he is off the Police force. Surely with his noterity in BB & the Nation he will have to go elsewhere to do his stalking but who in the US hasn't heard of DP by now?? I have followed this case because he is so much like SP it's pathetic it's like he must have followed SP case and we all know where he is now~~ I think his premise is NO BODY NO CASE! There must be a GOTCHA somewhere?? JMHO

Yes, I agree with you and I think he is arrogant enough to think that he can "do better and be smarter" than Scott Peterson. Fact is, the guy reminds me of Michael Schiavo. Not only in looks but in his arrogance and smugness and putting blame on others. Sigh. How can these woman not see this prior to marriage? Well, I guess being young is the reason. Another reason over 40 is better! LOL My thoughts are that why aren't they checking flight records of places he flew over? I believe he is a pilot or flew? Unless I got that wrong. No...the guy is too smart to dump a body out of an airplane....I would look more towards the possibility of him having access to a crematorium or something along that line. And I also believe someone somewhere has some knowledge of what he may have done and is not speaking out. If that is the case, there would be no immunity if I were the law there. I would give them exactly 10 days to come forward else should they be found later...they would have no immunity and be charged with numerous offenses. I think he had help....makes me wonder if it was his own mother? Maybe they ought to search her property? How can any mom speak out about their son being a good boy KNOWING full well he was controlling, manipulative and had 4 wives (that we know of...maybe more) and dare to talk about blame to Stacey? Yup. Someone needs to check the mothers house out. Sounds like a sicko Stephen King movie:(

oops
11-21-2007, 09:12 AM
Yes, I agree with you and I think he is arrogant enough to think that he can "do better and be smarter" than Scott Peterson. Fact is, the guy reminds me of Michael Schiavo. Not only in looks but in his arrogance and smugness and putting blame on others. Sigh. How can these woman not see this prior to marriage? Well, I guess being young is the reason. Another reason over 40 is better! LOL My thoughts are that why aren't they checking flight records of places he flew over? I believe he is a pilot or flew? Unless I got that wrong. No...the guy is too smart to dump a body out of an airplane....I would look more towards the possibility of him having access to a crematorium or something along that line. And I also believe someone somewhere has some knowledge of what he may have done and is not speaking out. If that is the case, there would be no immunity if I were the law there. I would give them exactly 10 days to come forward else should they be found later...they would have no immunity and be charged with numerous offenses. I think he had help....makes me wonder if it was his own mother? Maybe they ought to search her property? How can any mom speak out about their son being a good boy KNOWING full well he was controlling, manipulative and had 4 wives (that we know of...maybe more) and dare to talk about blame to Stacey? Yup. Someone needs to check the mothers house out. Sounds like a sicko Stephen King movie:(
OMG Michael Schiavo you are so right they could be brothers!! I have thought he may have gone up in his little plane and looked for a place to put Stacy and driven by car but i too beleive someone helped him never thought about the Mother. Crematorium is a Great idea too. Or a rendering plant which is the same idea as a crematorium my Hubby use to manage a plant like this & he said that is What he thinks happened to Jimmy Hoffa you can get rid of a person so easy in a rendering plant it is part of the meat packaging business, they render the animals for by Products and you will never find a body after this process is done. How many meat packing places in the Will Co area?? Again NO BODY NO CASE harder to prosecute but it can be done. I was depressed after I watched Greta last nite she brought up the fact that THEY JUST DON'T HAVE ANYTHING CONCRETE ON THIS GUY, I hope she is wrong and there is some resolution to this case it frustrates me so much. YES Mrs Potato they need to check out Mrs Peterson's Home too leave no stone unturned! MOO

odette
11-21-2007, 02:55 PM
Get this: How can so many not have found this!!! If you read the autopsy report on Kathleen, it is found to have a possible crucial mistake!

Upon opening and reading the Coroner's report my daughter discovered a mistake in the report. The time of death is listed as March 1, 2004 at 11:17pm and her autopsy completed at March 1, 2004 at 2:20pm. That means the autopsy was done while alive.

Fact is...she and I called Henry Savio the brother of the 3d wife (her autopsy) last night. (via 3-way)

Well, when she was calling on her cell phone...she did not block her number.

The family called her today to thank her very much and that they took it to the lawyers today to show. It's very possible that while they are charging the coroner and state botched up her autopsy that this could be the proven item needed to have the original null and void. The family thanked her over and again. Anytime a court document is in error, it can be legally thrown out of court and null and voided. Which means that the exhumed autopsy could replace the original one as cause of death without any court arguments against the original. Now how cool is that? No doubt I believe the family will finally get justice. Kudus to my daughter for her observation!!:D

Nice work Mrs_Potato!! .. Thank you for sharing :)

puppies
11-22-2007, 06:49 AM
hello,hello everyone:seeya:

what annoys me the most is this guy's attitude.he is so arrogant!he thinks he'll get away with "it" again?!think again,buddy:mad:

Mrs_Potato
11-22-2007, 10:24 AM
hello,hello everyone:seeya:

what annoys me the most is this guy's attitude.he is so arrogant!he thinks he'll get away with "it" again?!think again,buddy:mad:

The really sad part, puppies is that he COULD! That is what is so frustrating to most everyone. Look at O.J. ! (Course, I'm also sure Michael Schiavo had a role in his wifes collapse, however, this is not the forum.) Let's just hope and pray that he is caught in his lies , convicted and the Savio family can rest knowing justice took place. As for Stacey, we're all pretty sure we know she may no longer be alive and if that is the case lets hope and pray her body is recovered and she is full of evidence that points straight to Drew. That's all we can hope for right now, ya know?

Mrs_Potato
11-22-2007, 10:26 AM
HA! Justice could be at the start! Drew may lose his $6,000 monthly pension. Maybe he could take some advice and fess up to what he's done....at least in jail he won't have to worry about paying his mortgage, food, and health insurance..... and hey....there's plenty of "fooling around" available there for him! Sounds like fate could be in play for him afterall. http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,312546,00.html
:)

oops
11-22-2007, 10:52 AM
It would be humble of Mr Peterson to confess Today of all days~~ Thanksgiving Day~~ can you imagine How hard it will be for Stacy's children to have Thanskgiving without their Mom Today?? DP let everyone know where Stacy is Please...........MOO

puppies
11-22-2007, 11:10 AM
It would be humble of Mr Peterson to confess Today of all days~~ Thanksgiving Day~~ can you imagine How hard it will be for Stacy's children to have Thanskgiving without their Mom Today?? DP let everyone know where Stacy is Please...........MOO

i don't think this kind of "man" would ...:(
it's not only how he treated Stacy,but his other women around him as well...:cuss:

puppies
11-22-2007, 11:13 AM
HA! Justice could be at the start! Drew may lose his $6,000 monthly pension. Maybe he could take some advice and fess up to what he's done....at least in jail he won't have to worry about paying his mortgage, food, and health insurance..... and hey....there's plenty of "fooling around" available there for him! Sounds like fate could be in play for him afterall. http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,312546,00.html
:)

and he can no longer show up in bars in his uniform playing tough cop,intimidating people:no:

Pak31
11-22-2007, 11:41 AM
HA! Justice could be at the start! Drew may lose his $6,000 monthly pension. Maybe he could take some advice and fess up to what he's done....at least in jail he won't have to worry about paying his mortgage, food, and health insurance..... and hey....there's plenty of "fooling around" available there for him! Sounds like fate could be in play for him afterall. http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,312546,00.html
:)

Just read this today as well, and I couldn't be happier.:beer: When he was granted his pension, I thought I was ready to almost give up faith in the system. But this gives me renewed hope! To think that in the beginning of this whole mess he said that he has led an honorable life!!! In his mind only! That was one of his first statements and it is very ironic given what we have learned about him so far. Since I am from Bolingbrook not only has the crime effected me but to think that this is my police department, it's humiliating. I pray that because of DP, maybe the city will weed out the bad within the BBPD. PD's everywhere will always have some sort of code of ethics between members, but at least get the crooks out. We don't need these types wearing a badge. I also am with all of you on the arrogance of DP. Noticed it from day one, he is oozing it. He feels no remorse. It's awful to think that a human being can act this way, it's really scary. His days are numbered.

Mrs_Potato
11-23-2007, 07:26 AM
Oh and it keeps flooding in............http://www.suntimes.com/news/663929,CST-NWS-boling23.article

Seems Drew and a Pal loaded a blue barrel...big enough for a body...into the back of his SUV. Also police found traces of the blue barrel, as well. Now, when are they going to get a court order to spray (and blue light) his home in the dark for blood traces????? Seems to me that reporting of the barrel should be enough to get a judge to sign. Eh?

oops
11-23-2007, 07:37 AM
Oh and it keeps flooding in............http://www.suntimes.com/news/663929,CST-NWS-boling23.article

Seems Drew and a Pal loaded a blue barrel...big enough for a body...into the back of his SUV. Also police found traces of the blue barrel, as well. Now, when are they going to get a court order to spray (and blue light) his home in the dark for blood traces????? Seems to me that reporting of the barrel should be enough to get a judge to sign. Eh?

Re: This Blue Barrell I think DP was trying to throw everyone off track with the loading of this blue barrell onto his vehicle for ALL THE NEIGHBORS TO SEE HIM DOING IT. I DOUBT THIS BARRELL HAD STACY IN IT, I HAVE THOUGHT LONG AND HARD ABOUT THAT AND THINK DP WOULDN'T BE THAT DUMB TO PUT STACY IN THIS BARRELL AND PUT IT ON HIS TRUCK SO EVERYONE CAN SEE HIM LOADING IT. But I know LE has got to CYA and check out all leads. Or is DP that dumb to do that and Stacy was really in that blue barrel?? Makes more sence to me that DP would try to frame this other guy Rosetto and the LE are looking in Shorewood near HIS HOME. I have friends in Shorewood and they say the LE are crawling all over their little burb of Joliet looking for Stacy. JMO/MOO

Mrs_Potato
11-23-2007, 09:13 AM
Re: This Blue Barrell I think DP was trying to throw everyone off track with the loading of this blue barrell onto his vehicle for ALL THE NEIGHBORS TO SEE HIM DOING IT. I DOUBT THIS BARRELL HAD STACY IN IT, I HAVE THOUGHT LONG AND HARD ABOUT THAT AND THINK DP WOULDN'T BE THAT DUMB TO PUT STACY IN THIS BARRELL AND PUT IT ON HIS TRUCK SO EVERYONE CAN SEE HIM LOADING IT. But I know LE has got to CYA and check out all leads. Or is DP that dumb to do that and Stacy was really in that blue barrel?? Makes more sence to me that DP would try to frame this other guy Rosetto and the LE are looking in Shorewood near HIS HOME. I have friends in Shorewood and they say the LE are crawling all over their little burb of Joliet looking for Stacy. JMO/MOO


One thing that is a very common trait among sociopathic personalities are that "dumb" things do occur because they honestly believe they are so intelligent and crafty that they would not get caught. Also, I believe this blue barrel was removed from the home BEFORE her disappearance was reported, and only hours after she was last seen. Be interesting for him to explain what the blue barrel was, where is it at, what did he have in it and who assisted him? There is already trace blue evidence....now let's see what he says about it. Did he fly his plane above an area in which he could have rolled a heavy blue barrel out the open door? Did he have any logged miles on that plane from the time of his last chart recording that are unaccounted for? I highly doubt he would have "logged in". Does he have another pal (the one who helped with the barrel) that has his own pilots license and they used his plane? Many questions he will have to answer shortly...we shall soon find out, I'm sure :)

oops
11-23-2007, 09:45 AM
One thing that is a very common trait among sociopathic personalities are that "dumb" things do occur because they honestly believe they are so intelligent and crafty that they would not get caught. Also, I believe this blue barrel was removed from the home BEFORE her disappearance was reported, and only hours after she was last seen. Be interesting for him to explain what the blue barrel was, where is it at, what did he have in it and who assisted him? There is already trace blue evidence....now let's see what he says about it. Did he fly his plane above an area in which he could have rolled a heavy blue barrel out the open door? Did he have any logged miles on that plane from the time of his last chart recording that are unaccounted for? I highly doubt he would have "logged in". Does he have another pal (the one who helped with the barrel) that has his own pilots license and they used his plane? Many questions he will have to answer shortly...we shall soon find out, I'm sure :)
Mrs Potato~~ I hope you are right about this Blue Barrell and they find it there are so many airports in the area and would he have to give a flight plan to go up in this so called airplane that looks more like a a hot rod with Wings I was surprised that it is a 2 seater. Ric Mims a former DP friend has been going up with someone from LE in a plane scouting the area's esp around Rosetto's home and has found nothing so far. I hope there will be a break in the case soon. JMO

Mrs_Potato
11-23-2007, 10:48 AM
Mrs Potato~~ I hope you are right about this Blue Barrell and they find it there are so many airports in the area and would he have to give a flight plan to go up in this so called airplane that looks more like a a hot rod with Wings I was surprised that it is a 2 seater. Ric Mims a former DP friend has been going up with someone from LE in a plane scouting the area's esp around Rosetto's home and has found nothing so far. I hope there will be a break in the case soon. JMO

I think it would actually be difficult to toss a barrel off a two seater...fact is, it wouldnt be too smart anyhow as the wind could carry it and it could crush when landing and pop open. Like most bodies, they should concentrate in fields and water area's.:(

Pak31
11-23-2007, 01:57 PM
I think it would actually be difficult to toss a barrel off a two seater...fact is, it wouldnt be too smart anyhow as the wind could carry it and it could crush when landing and pop open. Like most bodies, they should concentrate in fields and water area's.:(

I still think obviously, the police know more than they are telling. Anyway, I have been wondering about the blue barrel or tub for a long time now. I heard about it in the beginning of the case, then not much was mentioned about it. I think that is because it is actual evidence. The person saw him moving the barrel but it was at night in the dark, right? Plus like Potato said, DP's socio personality puts him in the mindset that he is 100% innocent, so I doubt he moved it purposely for people to see him. Why would he want the attention. My gut feeling is that Stacy was killed that night at home, they had an argument-(her neighbor friend said that about a week before she went missing Stacy was in her driveway crying with DP's things boxed up saying she wanted him out---around that time DP followed her to the Dennys where she was meeting her guy friend---plus she told him she wanted a divorce), DP put her in the barrel then got his brother possibly or a friend to help him load it in the car. They said that both cars were missing from the residence between like 11 pm and 2 am. I think he had help, they may have put the barrel out in Shorewood maybe not. But someone helped him get rid of her is what my mind is telling me. I think the Sun Times article said that they were questioning DP's brother Paul and his oldest son who is also a police officer. I just think that they have a pretty good idea as to what is going on. I could be totally wrong here but that's my take in a nutshell.

oops
11-23-2007, 02:20 PM
I still think obviously, the police know more than they are telling. Anyway, I have been wondering about the blue barrel or tub for a long time now. I heard about it in the beginning of the case, then not much was mentioned about it. I think that is because it is actual evidence. The person saw him moving the barrel but it was at night in the dark, right? Plus like Potato said, DP's socio personality puts him in the mindset that he is 100% innocent, so I doubt he moved it purposely for people to see him. Why would he want the attention. My gut feeling is that Stacy was killed that night at home, they had an argument-(her neighbor friend said that about a week before she went missing Stacy was in her driveway crying with DP's things boxed up saying she wanted him out---around that time DP followed her to the Dennys where she was meeting her guy friend---plus she told him she wanted a divorce), DP put her in the barrel then got his brother possibly or a friend to help him load it in the car. They said that both cars were missing from the residence between like 11 pm and 2 am. I think he had help, they may have put the barrel out in Shorewood maybe not. But someone helped him get rid of her is what my mind is telling me. I think the Sun Times article said that they were questioning DP's brother Paul and his oldest son who is also a police officer. I just think that they have a pretty good idea as to what is going on. I could be totally wrong here but that's my take in a nutshell.
Pak~~ Shorewood, IL where Rosetti lives is close to the Dupage River and Hammel Woods I hope LE are looking in this area esp the Dupage River area and also Channahon is pretty closeby too and that is on the River too. You idea about the 2 car theory sounds more plausible I am sure they have cheked these 2 cars since Stacy's car was missing for awhile it's possible DP took one vehicle and his Pal took Stacy's?? JMHO

Mrs_Potato
11-23-2007, 06:22 PM
My take is that I think he would be a bit too smart to leave any trace blood evidence around, so that says when they find her body it will most likely be strangulation. Also, as a cop it would say he knows of lots of ideal places to place her body that would make it difficult. Heck, far as we know he is sociopathic enough to have gotten rid of the body right in the police stations rubbish barrel itself! Imagine that? Are they looking in the town's dump site? I don't believe I've heard anything about searching there? Any dumpster in town could be possible in that it may be in a location that nobody would find the body before the big ol' machine picks up the dumpster and crushes it with the rest of the contents? Someone needs to start checking the town's dump site. Just a thought. Maybe the big blue barrel was purposely done to bring on suspicion and actually has nothing to do with anything except another "idea" of his to blindside the investigation and throw it off track. Perhaps invariably they will find it was a legitimate barrel and a legitimate reason to have it taken somewhere and that will be his ploy/tactic to smirk at his own fellow officers...after all, he is smarter than all of them. <rolling eyes>

Mrs_Potato
11-25-2007, 11:37 AM
It's been pretty quiet on the investigation front...anyone get any new kind of news?

Sharona
11-25-2007, 08:16 PM
IMO, why does he fancy himself a ladies' man, and what do women see in him? I could understand Scott Peterson being in love with himself, but this guy??!! JMO:shrug:

Mrs_Potato
11-25-2007, 08:42 PM
IMO, why does he fancy himself a ladies' man, and what do women see in him? I could understand Scott Peterson being in love with himself, but this guy??!! JMO:shrug:

I hear ya! LOL. He reminds me of a puffy bull dog. lol. Fact is, even in his younger days he was still with the droopy eyes and bloated features. I believe he used a lot of "fake" charm to win over these young women...and girls are taught (and boys) to respect policemen and fireman etc. so it is "inborn" for those young girls to "feel safe" and "honored" to have a policeman boyfriend/husband...which is a shame to those who DO honor their profession...whereas DP has only used it to his own advantage. He must have done some pretty serious stuff on the force for them to consider yanking his pension. (outside of murder of the 3d wife and most probably of Stacey) Notice they are keeping it hush hush..........for now, anyhow. I do believe what goes around comes around...I mean.....look at OJ. LOL. Now I will wait for the day that Michael Schiavo gets his too. Sow what you reap.

andU
11-27-2007, 10:36 AM
I am having trouble digesting that Stacie's mother disappeard in a similar situation/manner. This is almost too coincidental, IMO. Maybe, they are (or at least both bodies) in the same place?

Mrs_Potato
11-27-2007, 02:50 PM
I am having trouble digesting that Stacie's mother disappeard in a similar situation/manner. This is almost too coincidental, IMO. Maybe, they are (or at least both bodies) in the same place?

Every psychologist and criminal profiler on the news today all said the same thing...it has no bearing on Stacey. Fact is, quite the opposite. Because of how she was raised and the proof of her good mothering skills that she would be the least likely to run off like her mom did. Also, her mom was always in trouble with the law, was an alcoholic, drug addict and had other mental disorders aside from just depression. There is no link whatsoever between the two. A young mom like Stacey who loved her children and feared the spouse would NEVER have left her children behind. Had she and the kids been missing....then I would say "yes, she took off". But in this case? No way. JMHO

Mrs_Potato
11-27-2007, 02:51 PM
Police Identify Person Believed to Have Helped Ex-Cop Drew Peterson Move Large Barrel
Tuesday, November 27, 2007




Illinois State police have identified the person they think may have helped former police sergeant Drew Peterson move a large blue barrel from his bedroom to his vehicle the day after his 23-year-old wife was reported missing.

A law enforcement source tells WFLD FOX Chicago that the man who helped load a barrel into Peterson's SUV tried to commit suicide the next day.

Stacy Peterson, a mother of two and Peterson's fourth wife, was reported missing Oct. 29 by her family after she failed to show up to a friend's house. Drew Peterson is a suspect in her disappearance.


Volunteers searching for any signs of Stacy are looking for the barrel. Neighbors say Peterson had a blue barrel in his backyard.

On Monday, 64 special agents with the FBI joined the search for Stacy to help state authorities in their investigation.

"I'm not saying that we're going to be able to solve the case," said FBI agent Ross Rice. "I'm certainly not going to predict if or when it will ever be solved but having additional resources certainly can't hurt."

Meanwhile, Will County prosecutors reopened the investigation into the death of Peterson's third ex-wife, Kathleen Savio. Savio, 40, died in a bathtub in March 2004. Prosecutors say the death appeared to be staged to conceal a homicide and recently exhumed her body for a second autopsy.

Illinois State Police told FOX News on Sunday that "new information" prompted its appeal for more information about possible sightings of the cars that belong to Stacy Peterson or her husband, Drew, around the time that the woman vanished.

Investigators are asking anyone who may have seen the vehicles on Oct. 28 or 29 — the time of the 23-year-old Bolingbrook mother's disappearance — to come forward.

Police have released photos of the vehicles: A dark Blue 2005 GMC Yukon Denali belonging to Drew and the second a purple 2002 Pontiac Grand Am, belonging to Stacy, and asked the public to call its tipline at 815-740-0678 or "America's Most Wanted" at 800-274-6388.

Both vehicles were impounded by police on Nov. 1, and are still in police possession because of search warrant seizures.

andU
11-27-2007, 03:27 PM
Every psychologist and criminal profiler on the news today all said the same thing...it has no bearing on Stacey. Fact is, quite the opposite. Because of how she was raised and the proof of her good mothering skills that she would be the least likely to run off like her mom did. Also, her mom was always in trouble with the law, was an alcoholic, drug addict and had other mental disorders aside from just depression. There is no link whatsoever between the two. A young mom like Stacey who loved her children and feared the spouse would NEVER have left her children behind. Had she and the kids been missing....then I would say "yes, she took off". But in this case? No way. JMHO

Oh, I didn't mean to imply that I thought Stacie took off; I'm wondering.... if Stacy had a relationship with her mother when she (Stacy)became involved with this cop that she (Stacy) married.... see where I'm going with this? I don't believe that Stacy went anywhere on her own free will, not without her children.

Mrs_Potato
11-27-2007, 07:11 PM
Oh, I didn't mean to imply that I thought Stacie took off; I'm wondering.... if Stacy had a relationship with her mother when she (Stacy)became involved with this cop that she (Stacy) married.... see where I'm going with this? I don't believe that Stacy went anywhere on her own free will, not without her children.

I believe her mother left when she was 15 years old. Pre-Drew. however, did you hear about the guy that helped with the blue barrel? I guess he tried to commit suicide the next day. Now wonder why??????? Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm. Not too mention, Ol' Drew is mighty quiet. Probably preparing himself for jail. Good. That's where he belongs.

Jadedblueeyes
11-29-2007, 09:29 AM
I believe her mother left when she was 15 years old. Pre-Drew. however, did you hear about the guy that helped with the blue barrel? I guess he tried to commit suicide the next day. Now wonder why??????? Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm. Not too mention, Ol' Drew is mighty quiet. Probably preparing himself for jail. Good. That's where he belongs.

Now LE seems to be looking for a rectangular box.

imoo

Pak31
11-29-2007, 11:42 AM
Now LE seems to be looking for a rectangular box.

imoo

I remember hearing two different discriptions of a container when this whole story intially broke. One was that a blue barrel that used to be in DP's backyard appeared to be missing and the other was that someone saw DP and another man carrying out a blue rubbermaid container from the house. The rectangular shape could very well be one of those large rubbermaid plastic containers. It is just so eerie to really think that Stacy was possibly killed in her home that morning and DP could have heartlessly put his wife into a storage container like that. It just sickens me. He better enjoy the limelight while he's in it. Live it up DP cause your days are numbered. :flamemad:

Mrs_Potato
11-29-2007, 06:16 PM
I remember hearing two different discriptions of a container when this whole story intially broke. One was that a blue barrel that used to be in DP's backyard appeared to be missing and the other was that someone saw DP and another man carrying out a blue rubbermaid container from the house. The rectangular shape could very well be one of those large rubbermaid plastic containers. It is just so eerie to really think that Stacy was possibly killed in her home that morning and DP could have heartlessly put his wife into a storage container like that. It just sickens me. He better enjoy the limelight while he's in it. Live it up DP cause your days are numbered. :flamemad:

The more and more that comes out each day is so very troubling and certainly indicates he is guilty, in my opinion. Did you happen to read the letter to the prosecutor that Kathleen Savio wrote before she was killed? She said that DP and Stacey used to rollerblade past her house on purpose and Stacey gave her the middle finger. Well, quite honestly....I believe it. She would have been a young immature 17 year old girl and a man like Drew was obviously lethal poison to her.

I believe he is too "smart" to put her in any lake...I posted my thoughts on another board and I believe he would have her buried in concrete in some new development or under construction in some kind of ongoing project. I do not believe he would even take a chance on a body washing up on shore or found by boaters. He is too crafty for that. I also believe this brother in law. ALSO....I heard rumbling rumors that the same stepbrother/brother in law (not sure which) also had a wife who was killed by a hit and run and they never found who did it. Makes ya wonder if SHE knew something. Ya know? This man is like a Ted Bundy but makes his killings personal...which in my opinion is worse!!

TobyTiger
11-29-2007, 09:39 PM
I remember hearing two different discriptions of a container when this whole story intially broke. One was that a blue barrel that used to be in DP's backyard appeared to be missing and the other was that someone saw DP and another man carrying out a blue rubbermaid container from the house. The rectangular shape could very well be one of those large rubbermaid plastic containers. It is just so eerie to really think that Stacy was possibly killed in her home that morning and DP could have heartlessly put his wife into a storage container like that. It just sickens me. He better enjoy the limelight while he's in it. Live it up DP cause your days are numbered. :flamemad:

The blue barrel was initially reported to contain swimming pool chemicals, i.e. liquid chlorine.

This is eerily similar to another case, "Larissa Schuster", which I have closely followed and is located here at the "Women Who Kill" forum.

Schuster is currently on trial for murdering her husband and disposing of his body in a 55 gallon blue barrel containing hydrochloric acid. The upper portion of her husband's body had completely dissolved after only a few days.

If something similar happened to Stacy Peterson, by the time her remains are found, a cause of death would be undeterminable.

TobyTiger
11-29-2007, 09:49 PM
Cover up? Some interesting comments from local residents...

DID COPS SHIELD PETERSON FROM ABUSE CHARGES? (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22031405/)

updated 1 hour, 23 minutes ago
BOLINGBROOK, Ill. - Eighteen times in two years, Bolingbrook police were called to fellow officer Drew Peterson’s home because of trouble between husband and wife. But Peterson’s wife could never get authorities to arrest him. In fact, she was the only one ever charged.

Now residents of this Chicago suburb are wondering whether police were protecting one of their own — and whether they bear some responsibility for what happened next.

Peterson’s wife at the time of the domestic disturbance calls, Kathleen Savio, was found dead in 2004 under mysterious circumstances. And now his current wife, Stacy, is missing and feared slain.
The way police dealt with Peterson “makes it kind of hard to trust cops,” said Pablo Delira, a 59-year-old construction worker. He said he has no doubt he would have been led away in handcuffs if police had been called to his house 18 times.

Kim Camplin, who works in the clothing business, said the two women might be alive today if Bolingbrook police had taken the domestic disturbance calls more seriously.

“It doesn’t matter if it’s a fireman, a policeman or a clergyman — all it should take is one call and it should be taken seriously,” she said. “What faith can we have in the system?”

Peterson, 53, was a police sergeant and 29-year veteran of the force, resigning earlier this month after he came under suspicion in his current wife’s disappearance in October.

In a roughly two-year period beginning in 2002, police responded to 18 domestic disturbance calls at Peterson’s house. Savio accused Peterson of beating her and threatening to kill her, but no charges were ever brought against him.

Instead, Peterson twice persuaded prosecutors to charge Savio with domestic battery. She was acquitted both times.

more at the link

SimplySue
11-29-2007, 10:16 PM
I think every tiny piece of the puzzle is all fitting together quiet nicely. :cool: I think he was so smug after getting away (until now) with Kathleen's murder that he got sloppy this time.

He also wasn't aware that Stacey had told her sister, the clergyman, & the new email friend, that she feared for her life and her knowledge of Kathleen's death.

It's almost like a slideshow it's becoming so clear in my head now with each new piece of information.

I believe that he killed her in the bedroom during a fight, put her into the container, drilled holes and added the scuba weights so she would sink, got rid of her body with the help of his relative after establishing the phone call.

I guess he thought people would automatically believe his tale.

I pray they find her soon so her family can lay her to rest and Mr. PsychoCop can go to court with his Crazier than a pet coon attorney defending him. Then off to the place in hell reserved for him hopefully.

TobyTiger
11-29-2007, 10:32 PM
I think every tiny piece of the puzzle is all fitting together quiet nicely. :cool: I think he was so smug after getting away (until now) with Kathleen's murder that he got sloppy this time.

He also wasn't aware that Stacey had told her sister, the clergyman, & the new email friend, that she feared for her life and her knowledge of Kathleen's death.

It's almost like a slideshow it's becoming so clear in my head now with each new piece of information.

I believe that he killed her in the bedroom during a fight, put her into the container, drilled holes and added the scuba weights so she would sink, got rid of her body with the help of his relative after establishing the phone call.

I guess he thought people would automatically believe his tale.

I pray they find her soon so her family can lay her to rest and Mr. PsychoCop can go to court with his Crazier than a pet coon attorney defending him. Then off to the place in hell reserved for him hopefully.
It is also possible this barrel had holes already in it, which would normally be used for dispensing the chlorine. If it is true that the barrel carried into the house to dispose of Stacy's body, however, I doubt any chemicals were still in it. It is very possible, in my opinion, the barrel is in a large lake where it would be nearly impossible to locate.

The new information is very telling as to his motive: that she knew of his involvement in Kathleen's death.

Mrs_Potato
11-30-2007, 06:38 AM
The blue barrel was initially reported to contain swimming pool chemicals, i.e. liquid chlorine.

This is eerily similar to another case, "Larissa Schuster", which I have closely followed and is located here at the "Women Who Kill" forum.

Schuster is currently on trial for murdering her husband and disposing of his body in a 55 gallon blue barrel containing hydrochloric acid. The upper portion of her husband's body had completely dissolved after only a few days.

If something similar happened to Stacy Peterson, by the time her remains are found, a cause of death would be undeterminable.

I think every tiny piece of the puzzle is all fitting together quiet nicely. :cool: I think he was so smug after getting away (until now) with Kathleen's murder that he got sloppy this time.

He also wasn't aware that Stacey had told her sister, the clergyman, & the new email friend, that she feared for her life and her knowledge of Kathleen's death.

It's almost like a slideshow it's becoming so clear in my head now with each new piece of information.

I believe that he killed her in the bedroom during a fight, put her into the container, drilled holes and added the scuba weights so she would sink, got rid of her body with the help of his relative after establishing the phone call.

I guess he thought people would automatically believe his tale.

I pray they find her soon so her family can lay her to rest and Mr. PsychoCop can go to court with his Crazier than a pet coon attorney defending him. Then off to the place in hell reserved for him hopefully.

My profiling thoughts of Drew:

I am so confident that he did not put her in any barrel. He is too crafty for that. Barrels with bodies, no matter how weighted, can be detected with sonar equipment. He would not take the chance the body could be found. I am positive her body is somewhere that permanently will not be found unless some major clue points to it. I believe she is either in concrete, under a construction site, or buried in a cemetary in another already prepared plot that someone else resides (recently buried). It's also possible if he has access to any time of furnace, crematorium, etc. she is there. This man is just TOO SMUG, TOO confident that she will not be found. They need to focus on the search in "bizarre" never thought of places. As a cop he would have knowledge of these kinds of places.

Every single resident in and around Bolingbrook should be responsible to thoroughly search their land, wells, and "odd" places to help out in this search. Instead of massive posters showing her height weight, etc...they need to put out massive posters of search tips for their own properties and set 2 days that everyone will be doing just that. (Those children in Ohio buried by the NH father could have been found 2 years sooner had they required residents to do massive searches of their own properties.)

Also, doesn't matter what room of the house he killed her....as my best guess is he strangled her. She was tiny. He did not use anything that could possibly leave blood evidence. He either overdosed her with pills in some kind of way, or he strangled her. He is smart enough that "just in case" her body is recovered that he could have a "secondary accounting" when he goes to trial. ("Stacey overdosed and I couldnt bear to let the children know." OR "We were rough playing and having fun and I accidentally bear-held her and panicked".)

No blood. Not this time. He failed with that the last time. Time will show.

Mrs_Potato
11-30-2007, 06:51 AM
MORE profiling thoughts of Drew:


I also believe the blue barrel occured....BUT ....was done purposely (prethought) to throw the trails off in the search process once it came to light about her being missing. No WAY would he have loaded her in the driveway. He would have pulled that SUV in the garage and loaded it. He WANTED the neighbors to see him with the blue barrel/tote.

As for the cell phone, ANY number could be programmed and titled "STACEY". He could have programmed a pay phone into the cell phone and titled it STACEY. Left the phone with his stepbrother and went to the payphone and called the cell phone. Naturally "STACEY" is going to pop up as an incoming call as that is what he assigned to that particular incoming call. They need to confiscate that cell phone and do a forensic analysis of all programmed and deleted numbers.

TobyTiger
12-01-2007, 07:34 PM
MORE profiling thoughts of Drew:


I also believe the blue barrel occured....BUT ....was done purposely (prethought) to throw the trails off in the search process once it came to light about her being missing. No WAY would he have loaded her in the driveway. He would have pulled that SUV in the garage and loaded it. He WANTED the neighbors to see him with the blue barrel/tote.

As for the cell phone, ANY number could be programmed and titled "STACEY". He could have programmed a pay phone into the cell phone and titled it STACEY. Left the phone with his stepbrother and went to the payphone and called the cell phone. Naturally "STACEY" is going to pop up as an incoming call as that is what he assigned to that particular incoming call. They need to confiscate that cell phone and do a forensic analysis of all programmed and deleted numbers.

Good point...the barrel as a decoy or used solely for transporting her body but not burial. Completely agree regarding the cell phone.

Mrs_Potato
12-01-2007, 07:42 PM
Good point...the barrel as a decoy or used solely for transporting her body but not burial. Completely agree regarding the cell phone.

I heard one of the criminal profilers on television talking.... and what he said makes sense...he said that he believes Drew purposely got that particular stepbrother involved because he knew he would be a "questionable" witness due to his mental health concerns and alcoholism. That DP is very calculating, cold and what helps in this situation is that all this planning is definetly going to show this was premeditated. He will get the death penalty. No doubt. Now lets hope Stacey's body surfaces for a proper burial :(

TobyTiger
12-01-2007, 08:09 PM
On Geraldo now...

Drew Peterson seen at a truck stop early morning hours of 10/29 per ISP press release. Peterson asked truckers to drive a large package to an undisclosed location.

Video from search for Stacy, with Dr. Michael Baden.

TobyTiger
12-01-2007, 08:12 PM
I heard one of the criminal profilers on television talking.... and what he said makes sense...he said that he believes Drew purposely got that particular stepbrother involved because he knew he would be a "questionable" witness due to his mental health concerns and alcoholism. That DP is very calculating, cold and what helps in this situation is that all this planning is definetly going to show this was premeditated. He will get the death penalty. No doubt. Now lets hope Stacey's body surfaces for a proper burial :(

Definitely agree with that assessment re: Morphey. The suicide attempt after Stacy went missing does indicate to me that he was involved, but also goes to his mental state should Peterson stand trial. Also believe that Peterson is a sociopath.

Mrs_Potato
12-01-2007, 08:28 PM
One of the BEST find Stacey Peterson sites for instant news updates!

http://www.missingabducted.com/2007/11/stacey-peterson.html

Mrs_Potato
12-01-2007, 08:42 PM
After reading that "trucker" story (thank you for that info)....gave me another thought. The police ought to look into other criminals that he may have bonded with to help him get rid of the body. What if he shipped her somewhere out of state and he pays someone to go retrieve the package and bury her in that state? Talk about an "alibi"? "Gheez, I told you she ran away how would I have gotten to Florida to rid her body there?"........hmmmmmmmmm. No matter what....this is no doubt premeditated and that should be the death penalty!

TobyTiger
12-01-2007, 09:06 PM
After reading that "trucker" story (thank you for that info)....gave me another thought. The police ought to look into other criminals that he may have bonded with to help him get rid of the body. What if he shipped her somewhere out of state and he pays someone to go retrieve the package and bury her in that state? Talk about an "alibi"? "Gheez, I told you she ran away how would I have gotten to Florida to rid her body there?"........hmmmmmmmmm. No matter what....this is no doubt premeditated and that should be the death penalty!
Question is: did any of the truckers actually assist him and move this "package"?

Mrs_Potato
12-02-2007, 11:13 AM
http://drx.typepad.com/psychotherapyblog/2007/11/separated-at-bi.html

TobyTiger
12-02-2007, 02:32 PM
http://drx.typepad.com/psychotherapyblog/2007/11/separated-at-bi.html

Yeah...but there's got to be a better comparison than the Cowardly Lion!

One2Snoop
12-02-2007, 06:19 PM
Still no Stacy? I keep checking in hoping there's been a break in the case.

ITA Mrs_Potato.

Originally Posted by Mrs_Potato
I heard one of the criminal profilers on television talking.... and what he said makes sense...he said that he believes Drew purposely got that particular stepbrother involved because he knew he would be a "questionable" witness due to his mental health concerns and alcoholism. That DP is very calculating, cold and what helps in this situation is that all this planning is definetly going to show this was premeditated. He will get the death penalty. No doubt. Now lets hope Stacey's body surfaces for a proper burial

TobyTiger
12-02-2007, 06:22 PM
PETERSON DENIES ASKING TRUCKERS TO TAKE PACKAGE (http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/12/02/missing.wife/?iref=hpmostpop)


CHICAGO, Illinois (CNN) -- Drew Peterson is denying that he approached two truck drivers and asked them to transport a package hours after his wife disappeared in October.


Former police Sgt. Drew Peterson, seen talking to reporters last week, has denied the truck drivers' story.

Peterson, a former police sergeant in Bolingbrook, Illinois, near Chicago, is suspected in the disappearance of his wife, Stacy. Peterson has said he believes she ran off with another man.

According to a statement released by Illinois police, two truck drivers reported that a man resembling Peterson and another white man asked the truck drivers "to transport a package to an undisclosed location." The other man was described by the truck drivers as stocky with salt-and-pepper hair, and in his early 50s.

The men approached the truck drivers at a Bolingbrook truck stop October 29 at 3:30 p.m., according to the report.

"Upon reaching the location, the men would regain possession of the package and continue transporting it to a location not accessible by semi-trailers," the report stated.

The report did not say if the truck drivers agreed to transport the package.

"There is absolutely, positively, 100 percent no validity to this," Peterson's attorney, Joel Brodsky, said.

more at the link

Mrs_Potato
12-02-2007, 07:18 PM
By the way, all. Stacy's sister Cassandra has her own message board going and located at this link. Note I am posting under my Lavanda Dolce name, not Mrs_Potato. (All the potato names are starting to get confusing! LOL)

http://findstacypeterson.com/forum/index.php?topic=581.0

Mrs_Potato
12-02-2007, 07:23 PM
Question is: did any of the truckers actually assist him and move this "package"?

I'm not sure regarding the "trucker" lead. I've read so many different accounts from different message boards that it is starting to become confusing. It could, or may not, even be a valid lead. Who knows? I do know that probably the most consice information can be found on the site that is managed by Stacy's sister, Cassandra (GuardianAngel) at this link: http://findstacypeterson.com/forum/index.php?topic=581.0

TobyTiger
12-02-2007, 08:03 PM
I'm not sure regarding the "trucker" lead. I've read so many different accounts from different message boards that it is starting to become confusing. It could, or may not, even be a valid lead. Who knows? I do know that probably the most consice information can be found on the site that is managed by Stacy's sister, Cassandra (GuardianAngel) at this link: http://findstacypeterson.com/forum/index.php?topic=581.0
According to the news article I posted earlier this afternoon, Peterson denies it. That remains to be seen, however.

Thanks for the link...I've read there for updates.
:read:

One2Snoop
05-30-2008, 02:29 AM
:eek: OMG seriously just reading the latest update on Drew Peterson and I think I need to :cuss:

snipped from the latest article...

http://www.suburbanchicagonews.com/heraldnews/news/977864,jo29_peterson_web.article

Drew Peterson’s young love was hauled before the grand jury Thursday, and that was just the kind of thing that screwed up the affair.

“You guys ruined it for me, again,” Peterson, 54, said of his romance with 22-year-old tanning salon worker Kim Matuska.

“It’s too much for her,” said Peterson, whose 24-year-old wife, Stacy, has been missing since October. “You got producers trying to get her on television shows, the state police, grand juries. It’s too much.”

Two things wrong here - Peterson is dating yet another young lady? WTH is wrong with her? and where is her mother and father? They need to knock some sense into her before she disappears too!

Peterson is dating, :no: yet he's not divorced nor does he know if his current wife, Stacy, is dead or alive? :eek: Hmmmmmm. Seriously people this guy needs to be locked up, unfortunately people can't be locked up on their arrogance can they? One thing I do know, he's showing his true colors by dating yet another young lady. Well I can't say I feel sorry for whats she's going through provided all the publicity surrounding this case. She had to know what she was getting herself into.

On another hopefully good note, maybe she's an LE decoy trying to get to the bottom of Savio's suspicious death and Stacy's suspicious disappearance - all I can say to her is I hope she has wiretaps implanted where no LE would think to go. Good luck to her I think? :seeya:

Elfinrow
05-30-2008, 11:06 AM
All we can do is hope that the Grand Jury gets this right; and does indict him. It's a waiting game; im trying to have faith they will get it right. Could not believe how much she resembled Kathleen Savio; it was really shocking to see that he has a very specific "type" or look that he targets. You could put all three in a pic and think they were sisters, that is how much she looks like Kathleen. Very Disturbing.

Even looking at photos of him with Stacy was like looking at a predator with his latest "catch". Something very wrong with him; as a man and of course mentally. He should be stuck in a cell with Sheila Labarre for life that would do for me!