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odette
09-26-2007, 12:15 AM
Nevada Authorities Search for Girl, Man in Explicit Sex Tape

FOXNEWS.COM HOME > U.S. - Tuesday, September 25, 2007

LAS VEGAS — Authorities in Nevada were trying Tuesday to find a girl believed to be 4 or 5 years old and a man seen performing explicit sexual acts on her in an amateur videotape that detectives were told was found in the desert.

"The problem is the unknowns," said Nye County sheriff's Detective David Boruchowitz, who said he hoped widespread national attention would identify the girl and the man.

"We have no idea where he's from, where she's from, and no idea who they are or where they are," Boruchowitz said in a telephone interview from the sheriff's office in Pahrump, 60 miles west of Las Vegas.

The tape, a little longer than 30 minutes, clearly shows the adult man performing criminal sexual acts that Boruchowitz said included rape, "everything else, and then some."

A 26-year-old Pahrump man, Darren Tuck, surrendered the tape to Nye County sheriff's investigators Sept. 8, after another man reported seeing it, Boruchowitz said.

Tuck told detectives he found the videotape in the desert outside Pahrump more than five months ago, although Boruchowitz said the tape didn't appear to have been exposed to weather or elements.

Boruchowitz said investigators don't think Tuck made the tape. Tuck was arrested Sept. 19 on charges of promoting child pornography and possession of child pornography, felonies. The top charge carries a possible sentence of up to life in prison.

Tuck was released without bail, pending arraignment Nov. 26 in Pahrump Justice Court, a court official said.

His lawyer did not immediately respond Tuesday to messages seeking comment.

"Our concern is if little girl is still in that situation," Boruchowitz said. "Our concern is to get her out of the nightmare that she's been living in."

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http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,298016,00.html

PHOTO OF THE VICTIM SHOWN AT ABOVE FOX NEWS LINK
Police want to find this young girl, who was seen being victimized in a sex tape found in Nevada.
Nye County Sheriff's Department

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Nye County Sheriff's Department
Police want to find this man seen in a still from a sex tape.

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odette
09-26-2007, 12:25 AM
5-Year-Old Girl on Sex Tape Sought

11ALIVE - Provided By: NBC News - Last Modified: 9/25/2007 10:00:56 AM

Video Available - Gerald Ramalho Reports

A man says he found a videotape in the middle of the Nevada desert showing a little girl being sexually abused.

Now, police are desperately searching for that little girl and the man suspected of abusing her.

A blonde-haired girl, estimated to be about 5-years-old who police say was subjected to unthinkable, sexual crimes.

"This is probably the most disgusting thing we've ever seen, especially videotaped as a record of it, it's even worse," Nye County Detective David Boruchowitz said.

Nye County detectives were able to lift the girl's image as well as those of her attacker from a VHS videotape.

The tape was turned into police by this man, Pahrump resident Darren Tuck who claims he found it in the desert.

But police say Tuck's story may not hold water in court.

For one thing, had that tape really been found out in the desert, it likely would have melted in the summer heat.

Det. Boruchowitz said, "He's just not been cooperative at all in terms of any forthcoming information."

Tuck was ultimately arrested for possession of porn and may face additional charges but a close friend says detectives have it all wrong.

"He turned it in trying to do the right thing and they turned it around trying to say that he's involved and he's not," said Tuck's friend, Melissa Poulter.

He may not be involved but at the moment he is the only lead and detectives say if he does know something this little girl's life may depend on that information.

http://www.11alive.com/news/article_news.aspx?storyid=103639

odette
09-26-2007, 12:33 AM
Investigators Looking for Girl Assaulted on Tape

http://i13.tinypic.com/4mx4d3l.gif » KTNV Report
http://i13.tinypic.com/4mx4d3l.gif » KVBC Report

firstcoastnews.com - Edited by Gary Detman, Nightside EP - Updated: 9/25/2007 11:27:14 AM

LAS VEGAS, NV -- Investigators in Las Vegas are looking for a little girl being sexually assaulted on tape. .....

Click on the video linkS to watch the report from Tamara Vaifanua from KTNV, and a second report from Gerard Ramalho from KVBC.

VIDEO'S AT THIS LINK
http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/strange/news-article.aspx?storyid=92010

odette
09-26-2007, 12:38 AM
Police Seek To ID Girl, Man In Sex Tape

-- Tape Shows Man Abusing Young Girl --

WSOCTV - UPDATED: 11:25 am EDT September 24, 2007

NYE COUNTY, Nev. -- After receiving a graphic tape of a young girl being assaulted by an adult male, Nye County police are seeking help in identifying both the victim and the man, KVVU-TV in Las Vegas reported.

"There's no other way to describe it," said Detective David Boruchowitz with the Nye County Sheriff's Office. "She's a victim that's used to being victimized."

Police said the tape shows a young girl being abused and violated by a man.

"It's as awful as you can imagine," Boruchowitz said. "It's explicit and just about the worst you can imagine." .....

continued:
http://www.wsoctv.com/news/14189500/detail.html

odette
09-26-2007, 12:51 AM
Sexually abused girl case getting national attention

KVBC - Sep 26, 2007 01:48 PM

http://i13.tinypic.com/4mx4d3l.gif » Sexually abused girl case getting national attention

Detectives have all the evidence they need to prove a young girl was raped. The attack is right there on a chilling videotape. But they can't find the victim or the suspect. Now, the search for the little girl is going nationwide.

A man in Pahrump says he found the tape out in the desert, but detectives say his story doesn't check out.

"This is not an agency pride issue this is 'let's get this girl out of the nightmare that she's living in,'" says Detective David Boruchowitz with Nye County Sheriff's Office. Nye County detectives say they've received hundreds of possible leads on who the blonde-haired child might be since the story first ran over the weekend. They've also received offers of help from several different agencies, including Metro and the Department of Homeland Security.

"We're working through each lead obviously. This is what we're hoping for: that eventually one of these leads is going to be that person that knows her or knows for sure who he is," Detective Boruchowitz said.

The girl, who police estimate is about 5-years-old, was subjected to heinous sexual crimes by the man who recorded everything on videotape.

That tape was allegedly found by Pahrump resident Darrin Tuck, who claims he came across the tape in the desert and turned it into police. "His story doesn't match," Detective Boruchowitz explains. "A reasonable person would not believe the story that he's given us. But again, he's not providing anything additional so we just have what we have to work with." .....

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http://www.kvbc.com/Global/story.asp?S=7128548

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Man from videotape

http://i24.tinypic.com/5bu4w3
Darrin Tuck

odette
09-26-2007, 03:11 AM
Help Nye County Identify Young Child Victim and Male Suspect

LASVEGASNOW.COM - Sep 25, 2007 10:03 AM

http://i13.tinypic.com/4mx4d3l.gif » Who is This Little Girl?

Nye County police want help identifying a young girl who is the victim of a disturbing crime. There is video of the girl is being sexually assaulted by an adult male.

"It is very disturbing, very disturbing. This young girl is being victimized by this individual," said Sheriff Tony Demeo, Nye County.

Police say they were given the tape by 26-year-old Darren Tuck of Pahrump who claimed he found it in the desert. After investigating, police discovered that Tuck had the tape in his possession for five months and showed it to other people before turning it over to police.

Tuck has since been charged with possessing and promoting child pornography.

"At least he had enough of a conscience to come forward. He didn't just throw it away and in that respect Mr. Tuck has some redeeming qualities," Sheriff Demeo said.
Police say Tuck is not the adult male individual in the video and if he did find the video in the desert, it may be difficult to discover the girl's identity.

"We want to rescue her from the situation she is in and someone out there is going to lead us to this girl," Sheriff Demeo said.

Anyone with information on either the girl or the man is asked to call the Nye County Sheriff's Office at 775-751-7000.

http://www.lasvegasnow.com/Global/story.asp?S=7102515&Call=Email&Format=HTML

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Darren Tuck says he found the
videotape in the desert.

odette
09-26-2007, 03:17 AM
Police Get Tips To Girl's Identity

-- Detective: Hundreds Of Tips Received On Sex Tape Investigation --

http://i13.tinypic.com/4mx4d3l.gif » Related To Story

FOX5 NEWS - LAS VEGAS - POSTED: 3:26 pm PDT September 24, 2007 - UPDATED: 3:57 pm PDT September 24, 2007

PAHRUMP, Nev. -- Officers said they have received more than 100 tips concerning the identity of a girl being abused in a pornographic tape. Nye County police are trying to identify her and her adult male attacker.

"It the most disgusting thing you could possibly imagine," Detective David Boruchowitz said. "The worst thing you could imagine happening to this girl happened."

Boruchowitz said the girl appears to only be 4 to 5 years old when the tape was filmed and, it appears, she has been victimized a lot.

Detectives said the crime is gaining national attention, which has led to hundreds of calls about the identity of the girl and the male assaulting her.

"We really know very little," Boruchowitz said. "What we know is Darren Tuck, a local resident, turned in this tape to our detectives division." .....

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http://www.fox5vegas.com/news/14194581/detail.html?rss=vegas&psp=news

odette
09-26-2007, 03:30 AM
Desperate search for unidentified girl, assailant

KVBC - Sep 26, 2007 04:40 AM

http://i13.tinypic.com/4mx4d3l.gif » » Desperate search for unidentified girl, assailant

Nye County detectives are calling it a horrific crime. A young girl being sexually abused and it was all caught on tape. And perhaps even worse than the crime itself is the fact that police have no idea who the victim is or even the identity of the man abusing her.

As News 3's Collette Wieland shows us, police have released her picture in hopes someone will know who she is.

"The more eyes and ears that you have working on any type of investigation, the better it is. Because that's what helps generate leads," says Stephanie Parker with Nevada Child Seekers.

And at this point, any lead might help police find this little girl. Nye County detectives say a videotape in their possession shows a man sexually assaulting the little girl. The young girl's identity is unknown, but police believe she is about 5-years-old, and has likely been abused before. .....

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http://www.kvbc.com/Global/story.asp?S=7121727

Angie1960
09-26-2007, 02:34 PM
Where is this girl???? She has to be found - Look at her...

http://www.crimelibrary.com/news/original/0907/2602_little_girl_video1.html

Somebody who is supposed to take care of her has pimped her out - Why isn't this out in the national news?????

docwho3
09-26-2007, 05:21 PM
I accidently started a new thread not knowing this thread was here in this spot.

Wednesday, September 26, 2007
Email tips to:
findchild@nyesheriff.net
http://www.nyecountysheriff.net/
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Police Work To Identify Missing Pahrump Girl
Sep 24, 2007 07:45 PM CDT
". . .The only clue to her whereabouts is a videotape held by a man who may have important information.

Police arrested 26 year old Darren Tuck for having the videotape for months before going to police.

They still do not know who the man in the video is or who the little girl is.

Nye County police describe the videotape as the worst thing they have ever seen.

It is a pornographic tape made by a predator victimizing a young girl.

Their only link, Darren Tuck, is not talking. . ."
http://www.ktnv.com/Global/story.asp?S=7122379
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News links below as of today 09/26/2007

Sep 24, 2007 07:45 PM CDT
http://www.ktnv.com/Global/story.asp?S=7122379

Sep 24, 2007 05:03 PM CDT
http://www.lasvegasnow.com/Global/story.asp?S=7102515&Call=Email&Format=HTML

UPDATED: 7:21 pm PDT September 23, 2007
http://www.fox5vegas.com/news/14182672/detail.html

September 25, 2007 6:34 PM ET
http://www.deserttelevision.com/Global/story.asp?S=7127960&nav=menu412_2

UPDATED: 8:25 am PDT September 24, 2007
http://www.kirotv.com/news/14189500/detail.html

Updated: 9/25/2007 11:27:14 AM
http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/mostpopular/news-article.aspx?storyid=92010&provider=top

Video
http://www.firstcoastnews.com/video/player.aspx?aid=111197&bw=

Video
http://www.firstcoastnews.com/video/player.aspx?aid=111245&bw=

UPDATED: 8:25 am PDT September 24, 2007
http://www.my58.com/news/14189500/detail.html

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20973893/

September 25, 2007, 9:03 PM PDT
http://ktla.trb.com/news/ktla-sexontape,0,7146519.story?coll=ktla-promo-layout

Sep 25, 2007 10:36 AM CDT
http://www.wave3.com/Global/story.asp?S=7125201&nav=0RZF

UPDATED: 3:57 pm PDT September 24, 2007
http://www.fox5vegas.com/news/14194581/detail.html?rss=vegas&psp=news

odette
09-26-2007, 06:37 PM
Identity of taped mystery girl still unknown

PAHRUMP VALLEY TIMES - Sep. 26, 2007

Nye County Sheriff's Department investigators have gone nationwide to try to get the identity of a girl, estimated to be four to five years old, who is the victim of a heinous assault on a half-hour pornographic video dropped off by a Pahrump man.

Darren Tuck, 26, of Pahrump, was booked on charges of possession of child pornography, after he initially told sheriff's investigator he just found the videotape in the desert, but on subsequent interrogation admitted to having it in his possession for five months, according to detective David Boruchowitz.

The information was telecast on the nationwide show Geraldo Live.

"Since Geraldo aired I've been getting inundated with calls," Boruchowitz said. But he said none of them have translated into leads on the identity of the victim nor her accuser. .....

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http://www.pahrumpvalleytimes.com/2007/Sep-26-Wed-2007/news/16904752.html

odette
09-26-2007, 06:42 PM
Horrific Child Porn Video Has Nevada Cops Asking Questions

AMERICAS MOST WANTED - 9/25/2007

When 26-year-old Darren Tuck handed in a videotape to Nevada authorities on September 8, 2007, it began an investigation into an appalling case of sexual abuse against a child. On the tape, authorities say, are disturbing images of an adult male sexually assaulting an adolescent girl. .....

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http://www.amw.com/features/feature_story_detail.cfm?id=2169

odette
09-26-2007, 06:59 PM
Police Work To Identify Missing Pahrump Girl

KNTV - Sep 25, 2007 12:45 PM

The search for a missing Pahrump girl has gone nationwide.

The only clue to her whereabouts is a videotape held by a man who may have important information.

Police arrested 26 year old Darren Tuck for having the videotape for months before going to police.

They still do not know who the man in the video is or who the little girl is.

Nye County police describe the videotape as the worst thing they have ever seen.

It is a pornographic tape made by a predator victimizing a young girl.

Their only link, Darren Tuck, is not talking. .....

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http://www.ktnv.com/Global/story.asp?S=7122379

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Unidentified Man In Video

odette
09-26-2007, 07:12 PM
More Information Released on Unidentified Exploited Girl

http://i13.tinypic.com/4mx4d3l.gif » Included - Conference on Sexually Exploited Girl

http://i13.tinypic.com/4mx4d3l.gif » Included - Unidentified Child Victim Handed to Metro Crime Lab

LAS VEGAS NOW - Sep 27, 2007 10:19 AM

Nye County officials held a press conference Wednesday afternoon and released more pictures as they continue their investigation and search for a sexually exploited unidentified little girl.

SLIDESHOW: Enhanced Photos From Videotape of Victim, Suspect

Sheriff Anthony L. De Meo shared that around 1,500 tips have come in and 150 of them are being followed up on. Volunteers from Homeland Security in Las Vegas -- retired law enforcement -- will be setting up a call center to follow up on tips.

One tip that came in gave information about the dress the little girl was wearing. It came from a 2003 collection by Laura Dare called the Leopard Rose.

If you have any information, you can email the sheriff at: findchild@nyesheriff.net

Detective David Boruchowitz said that the videotape was turned over to the Metro crime lab experts who enhanced the images, helping to put a time frame on when the tape was made. From the model of the TV and system in the background, they put the time period near 2003-2004. .....

continued:
http://www.lasvegasnow.com/Global/story.asp?S=7127939

odette
09-26-2007, 07:29 PM
FOX 5 NEWS - LAS VEGAS

Police Look For Girl, Man In Sex Tape
Police Release Sex Tape Images
Slideshows
Police Release New Sex Tape Images
Top Attractions That Aren't So Attractive
Video
Police 'Disgusted' By Acts On Tape

http://www.fox5vegas.com/news/14194581/detail.html?rss=vegas&psp=news

odette
09-26-2007, 07:42 PM
Police Release Sex Tape Images

-- Man, Two Girls Featured --

FOX5 LAS VEGAS - UPDATED: 2:26 pm PDT September 26, 2007

PAHRUMP, Nev. -- Nye County police have released several images from a sex tape that shows the abuse of one girl.

The tape has been the center of a nationwide manhunt for the man and young girl, who is believed to be 4 to 5 years old at the time of the recording. Police said he is a sexual predator and that they want to make sure the girl is safe.

New images from the tape also feature an older girl who was not abused. They said they are now looking for her as well, to first ensure her safety and to question her about the person who recorded her. .....

continued:
http://www.fox5vegas.com/news/14212576/detail.html

odette
09-26-2007, 07:44 PM
Police: Second Girl Seen In Sex Tape

-- Tape May Be Four Years Old; Two Girls Featured --

FOX5 LAS VEGAS - UPDATED: 1:19 pm PDT September 26, 2007

PAHRUMP, Nev. -- The Nye County Sheriff's Office said the pornographic tape at the center of an investigation may have been made in 2003 or 2004, and there is another girl seen in the video.

During a news conference Wednesday, officers said the tape appears to have been made between 2003 and 2004, given the make of the television and electronic equipment. They also said the lingerie the girl is wearing was manufactured during the spring of 2003 by a company in North Carolina.

Officers said the video shows a girl believed to be sexually abused by an unknown man. The girl, police said, appears to be 4 to 5 years old at the time of the recording. It also shows a man who police think might be the sexual predator. Police do not know where the tape was shot.

There is another girl featured in the tape, police said, who appears to be 10 years old. Officers said she was filmed through a window in a different scene of the video. Once she spots the man recording her, officers said, the video cuts away as he flees the scene. She is not abused at all during the recording. .....

continued:
http://www.fox5vegas.com/news/14211588/detail.html

odette
09-26-2007, 08:02 PM
OFFICE OF THE NYE COUNTY SHERIFF - PDF DOCUMENT
http://www.nyecountysheriff.net/ncso_seeking_to_identify_victim_of_crime.pdf

odette
09-26-2007, 08:05 PM
New info in unidentified abuse victim case

KVBC - Jesse Corona reports. - Sep 27, 2007 09:47 AM

Nye County authorities have released new photos and information about the unidentified girl who they say is seen being sexually assaulted on a videotape.

Nye County authorities have released new photos and information about the unidentified girl who they say is seen being sexually assaulted on a videotape.

The pictures were taken from a VHS tape, handed over to them by Darren Tuck. Tuck says he found the tape in the desert, but authorities don't believe his story.

On Wednesday, Nye County Sheriff Tony Demeo said Tuck has an attorney and they're not cooperating with the investigation. The sheriff also says they have about 150 good leads they're following up on. .....

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http://www.kvbc.com/

odette
09-26-2007, 08:11 PM
Official Website of the Nye County Sheriff's Office

ALERT ALERT ALERT ALERT

The Nye County Sheriff’s Office is asking for the public's help in trying to locate the Young Female Juvenile and suspect at this link. The Child is a victim of a heinous crime perpetrated by the suspect which can be seen in a video. The Wanted Flyer is in PDF format so that it can be printed by those interested in assisting law enforcement and placed in various locations as a Flyer.
Please click on link: Seeking to Identify Young Female who is a Victim of a Crime
E Mail Tips to: findchild@nyesheriff.net

http://nyecountysheriff.net/

docwho3
09-26-2007, 08:11 PM
This appears to be tuck (note the image file is named darren_tuck)
http://chilledheat.com/glastonbury/index.php?dir=skate+photos%2F13thMarch05&img=1

Close up of tuck
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e232/docwho3/tuck/tukclos1.jpg
Compare to news shot of tuck
http://ktnv.images.worldnow.com/images/7122379_BG3.jpg

There are people below who watch and 2 of those watching bear some resemblance to the perp in the video.

L.E. is already aware of this image. Just thought I would share.

Moms4Justice
09-27-2007, 12:05 AM
IMO Darren Tuck and the Sick Ba$tard that abused this innocent child bare an amazing resemblence! :flamemad:
May God bless that little girl & hopefully she will be found soon.

odette
09-27-2007, 09:09 AM
Nev. Police Search for Girls on Sex Tape

FOX NEWS - Thursday, September 27, 2007

LAS VEGAS — Authorities trying to aid two girls seen in a sexually explicit videotape say they have identified one and were showing images of the other Thursday in the hopes that someone would recognize her.

The tape was turned in to police by a man who said he found it in the desert. It shows a man performing sex acts on a girl around 4 or 5 years old, and shows a girl believed to be 10 to 12 years old appearing in "some kind of peep show," said Nye County sheriff's detective David Boruchowitz.

Authorities hope identifying the girls will help them locate the abuser and rescue them. Still photos of the younger girl, fully clothed, appeared Thursday morning on CBS's "The Early Show," where Boruchowitz announced that the older girl had been identified.

He said the photos of the younger girl were being released because her life could be in danger. .....

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http://www.foxnews.com/wires/2007Sep27/0,4670,SexTapeSearch,00.html

odette
09-27-2007, 09:21 AM
Cops Looking For Little Girl On Sex Tape

-- Second, Older, Girl Identified; Public's Help Sought In Finding 4-5-Year-Old --

CBS NEWS - PAHRUMP, Nev., Sept. 27, 2007

CBS/AP) - Nevada authorities have identified the second girl found on a videotape that shows sex acts by a man on a girl around 4 or 5 years old.

"We've ensured that she is safe and that she is well. We've ensured that she did not suffer as a victim at the hands of that perpetrator, as did that little girl," Nye County sheriff's detective David Boruchowitz said on CBS News' The Early Show.

The younger girl still has not been found. The second girl is estimated to between 10 and 12 years old.

"We did confirm that she is a resident here, although, as far as we can tell, she has no ties to that little girl," Boruchowitz told co-anchor Harry Smith. .....

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http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/09/27/national/main3303528.shtml

Moms4Justice
09-27-2007, 09:43 AM
Thank You Odette for the updates! Hopefully and I'm praying that this younger child will be found today now that the older one has been indentified. For surely the older one knows something about the perp. in the video.
:rose:

odette
09-27-2007, 10:24 AM
Thank You Odette for the updates! Hopefully and I'm praying that this younger child will be found today now that the older one has been indentified. For surely the older one knows something about the perp. in the video.
:rose:

You're welcome Moms4J :)

I'm thinking that although the photos are very grainy, that abuser should be recognizable to someone, surely. The sooner that individual is apprehended by LE the better. What a monster!!! :flamemad:

Angie1960
09-27-2007, 12:51 PM
Cops Looking For Little Girl On Sex Tape

-- Second, Older, Girl Identified; Public's Help Sought In Finding 4-5-Year-Old --

CBS NEWS - PAHRUMP, Nev., Sept. 27, 2007

CBS/AP) - Nevada authorities have identified the second girl found on a videotape that shows sex acts by a man on a girl around 4 or 5 years old.

"We've ensured that she is safe and that she is well. We've ensured that she did not suffer as a victim at the hands of that perpetrator, as did that little girl," Nye County sheriff's detective David Boruchowitz said on CBS News' The Early Show.

The younger girl still has not been found. The second girl is estimated to between 10 and 12 years old.

"We did confirm that she is a resident here, although, as far as we can tell, she has no ties to that little girl," Boruchowitz told co-anchor Harry Smith. .....

continued:
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/09/27/national/main3303528.shtml


Thank God! This is such good news - thanks - God please help us find this girl! :rose:

odette
09-27-2007, 01:47 PM
Police: Who is the little girl in the sex tape?

CNN - updated 29 minutes ago - VIDEO » Watch authorities describe the disturbing case

LAS VEGAS, Nevada (AP) -- Authorities trying to aid two girls seen in a sexually explicit videotape say they have identified one and were showing images of the other Thursday in the hopes that someone would recognize her. .....

http://edition.cnn.com/2007/US/09/27/sextape.search.ap/

krissy41
09-27-2007, 01:48 PM
Came across the tape in the desert my ass!!! This is either the SAME guy or involved. There is NO doubt in my mind!!!

packy
09-27-2007, 02:05 PM
Thanks for all the updates. It was on the news again this morning, so hopefully someone may recognize the man or the child. Hope they keep it out in the public for as long as it takes.

Portabella
09-27-2007, 03:55 PM
The little Pajama's are still being sold now, this is what they look like, they come from upscale stores such as Dillards and also from boutiques.
http://i20.tinypic.com/2n00eiv.jpg These pajama's come in size 2x-6x, which leads me to believe this little girl may be younger than they think. The way the ruffle shirt hangs long on her although its a short shirt in photo leads me to believe she is either very petite or younger....JMHO


We need to be searching for the sheets, they also are rather distinct....

odette
09-27-2007, 03:55 PM
Authorities release photos of second girl on video

Las Vegas Review-Journal - Sep. 27, 2007

Nye County authorities turned to the media again on Wednesday seeking help in identifying a girl being sexually assaulted by an older man on a video handed over to police earlier this month.

Sheriff Tony DeMeo thinks that through the media, the public will bring the girl, estimated to be 4 or 5 years old, to safety.

"The media is going to be the conduit where information comes to us so we can I.D. her," he said. "People all over the world are interested. Even if the tip we need comes internationally, it will come to us."

Also on Wednesday, authorities released photos of a girl, estimated to be 10 to 12 years old, who also was seen on the tape. The girl isn't sexually assaulted on the video, but police said she is a victim of voyeurism. .....

EXCERPT: The Nye County sheriff's office isn't disclosing all it knows about the case. The first name of one of the girls can be heard on the tape, but police are not revealing it.

A 26-year-old Pahrump man, Darren Tuck, turned over the tape to Nye County investigators on Sept. 8 after another man reported seeing it, Boruchowitz said.

continued
http://www.lvrj.com/news/10065001.html

Devotion
09-27-2007, 04:43 PM
The little Pajama's are still being sold now,
this is what they look like,
they come from upscale stores such as Dillards and also from boutiques.
http://i20.tinypic.com/2n00eiv.jpg

These pajama's come in size 2x-6x, which leads me to believe this little girl may be younger than they think.
The way the ruffle shirt hangs long on her although its a short shirt in photo leads me to believe she is either very petite or younger....JMHO

We need to be searching for the sheets, they also are rather distinct....

:( Portabella, I agree....The length of the shirt on the child leads me to believe she is 3 or 4 yrs. old....jmo

Portabella
09-27-2007, 04:55 PM
Upon further speculation of the outfit, I see white ruffles on the top, hers does not have that,however I am thinking it may be a reproduction of it, maybe a cheaper version, I cannot find where she released it without the white ruffle up top.....grrrr.....

I am so tired of looking at sheets. I hope someone comes up with something, I am learning all about thread counts here.

Also if you look at that one photo, what is that one black item on the floor by the head of the bead, I keep enlarging it and cannot figure out what I am seeing?

Devotion
09-27-2007, 05:04 PM
[QUOTE=krissy41;9000571]

Came across the tape in the desert my ass!!!
This is either the SAME guy or involved. There is NO doubt in my mind!!![/
QUOTE]
:read: Same guy or definately INVOLVED...

This 10/ 11 yr. old girl has to know WHO made the video of her.
Someone had to talk to her about making the video...she knows who that person is..her family, friends/ associates need to be investigated..
Hope she isn't too scared to tell....imo

Jo_Momma_82
09-27-2007, 06:17 PM
The girl and the man have the same lips and eyes (imo).... I wonder if thats her father (SICK S.O.B.) which could be why it's so difficult to find her.... it's possible that he doesn't take her out in public much or have much of a social life altogether. I think she is more like 3-4 years old also and we can pretty much bet she's not in school, preschool, or daycare considering she hasn't been identified yet.

Plus.... what about her mother ? (grrrrrrrr), how would she NOT notice that type of abuse ? Apparently she's not on file for being reported as abused so far (assuming that the police have already checked into that)... so, does anyone else think the mother may be involved or is covering for this man ?

Jo_Momma_82
09-27-2007, 06:30 PM
Here's a more enhanced picture of the perpetrator.....

http://klas.images.worldnow.com/images/7127939_BG4.jpg
http://www.lasvegasnow.com/Global/story.asp?S=7127939
I don't think he looks like Tuck but, I bet Tuck knows something about who this guy is. He only turned this in just to cover his own @$$ from being ratted out.

WarmNCozy
09-27-2007, 07:04 PM
<Snip>I accidently started a new thread not knowing this thread was here in this spot.

One thing you can count on, the minute a story breaks, Odette is right there with a half dozen links!

You go, girl! http://bestsmileys.com/clapping/1.gif

Portabella
09-27-2007, 07:22 PM
Can anyone make out what that little black thing is on the right side of the head of the bed on the floor, there is an obvious plastic bad there too. Looks like the type you have at motels the cheap kind.

Also...the other little girl was taped through a window, she was in another part of the tape and evidently when she noticed she was being taped by him he fled, so I don't believe she has a clue who he is. But, if he was doing it in Nevada in her town, you can bet he is affiliated or lives in that town or close by.

One2Snoop
09-27-2007, 07:37 PM
The little Pajama's are still being sold now, this is what they look like, they come from upscale stores such as Dillards and also from boutiques.
http://i20.tinypic.com/2n00eiv.jpg These pajama's come in size 2x-6x, which leads me to believe this little girl may be younger than they think. The way the ruffle shirt hangs long on her although its a short shirt in photo leads me to believe she is either very petite or younger....JMHO


We need to be searching for the sheets, they also are rather distinct....

The PJ's you have pictured aren't the same style. Same print though. It looks like from the most recent photo's released that its a nighty and not a top and bottom.

I did some looking around on the sheets and found some similar but not the same. Martha Stewart and Ralph Lauren brands.

Here's a slide show with more pics....
http://lasvegasnow.com/Global/story.asp?S=7133005

One2Snoop
09-27-2007, 07:45 PM
Here's a pdf file from NYECountySheriff with additional still photo's....

http://www.nyecountysheriff.net/ncso_seeking_to_identify_victim_of_crime.pdf

Moms4Justice
09-27-2007, 07:56 PM
Hi! The black object looks to me like it could possibly be a small black pot with a clear plastic bag hanging over the side...or maybe a rag. It also looks like it could be a small black handbag or camera bag with the strap going to the right. I will keep looking at it and if I come up with anything else I will let you know.

WarmNCozy
09-27-2007, 08:05 PM
The clothes are not what I would have bought for my daughters at any age let alone under 5.

Maybe the perp is the father, making a buck off of his own daughter! A child that young and vulnerable has to trust their own father -- who else do they have!

This is so sick. If found, will this child ever be mentally healthy?:shrug:

Devotion
09-27-2007, 09:20 PM
Here's a pdf file from NYECountySheriff with additional still photo's....

http://www.nyecountysheriff.net/ncso_seeking_to_identify_victim_of_crime.pdf

:( I noticed these photo's do not show a wooden, pine headboard on the bed, like one of the other pictures published.(Pahrumptvalleytimes)

The bed has a ruffled, dust ruffle around the bottom.
Is there any motels that have dust ruffles around the bottom of the beds?
Most Motels I go to, do NOT....and they use WHITE sheets, not stripped..

Notice on the last photo of the perp, a DARK SPOT on his chest?
What is that spot..if it's a mole, he could be easily identified..

Doctors should keep an eye open for a male wanting a mole/dark spot removed from his chest.....jmo

One2Snoop
09-27-2007, 09:39 PM
Devotion -

What picture did you see that has a headboard in it? Can you post the link? I saw one that has a TV/armoire in the background.

Devotion
09-27-2007, 09:48 PM
The PJ's you have pictured aren't the same style. Same print though. It looks like from the most recent photo's released that its a nighty and not a top and bottom.

I did some looking around on the sheets and found some similar but not the same. Martha Stewart and Ralph Lauren brands.

Here's a slide show with more pics....
http://lasvegasnow.com/Global/story.asp?S=7133005

:mad: Very good pictures....Notice the Cheap wooden cabinet/armoire with the TV and VCR in it...
A reflection of the room can be seen on the screen of the TV..

The walls of this room look like some type of PINE PANELING.
How common is the pine paneling in the Vegas area?.....jmo

Devotion
09-27-2007, 09:57 PM
Devotion -

What picture did you see that has a headboard in it?
Can you post the link? I saw one that has a TV/armoire in the background.
:( I had looked at Odette's post on page 2....http://wwwpahrumptvalleytimes.com
I went back and looked at the picture again, this time I ENLARGED it..

It was NOT a headboard behind the child, but the wooden TV cabinet..was there any pine paneling on the walls or was I mistaken about that too?

SORRY for the mistake...next picture I'll enlarge it and put on my glasses before I post a response...imo

tourist#1
09-27-2007, 10:36 PM
I want just 5 mins alone with him when they catch him.

Devotion
09-27-2007, 10:38 PM
The little Pajama's are still being sold now, this is what they look like, they come from upscale stores such as Dillards and also from boutiques.

http://i20.tinypic.com/2n00eiv.jpg These pajama's come in size 2x-6x, which leads me to believe this little girl may be younger than they think.
The way the ruffle shirt hangs long on her although its a short shirt in photo leads me to believe she is either very petite or younger....JMHO

We need to be searching for the sheets, they also are rather distinct....

:shrug: Portabella, Good work as usual.
If someone could find out WHEN/ how long, the material-design used to make the childrens night cloths have been in production with this fabric and sold in the stores, the "time frame" could be pinned down as to WHEN this video was made.

......jmo

One2Snoop
09-27-2007, 11:45 PM
:( I had looked at Odette's post on page 2....http://wwwpahrumptvalleytimes.com
I went back and looked at the picture again, this time I ENLARGED it..

It was NOT a headboard behind the child, but the wooden TV cabinet..was there any pine paneling on the walls or was I mistaken about that too?

SORRY for the mistake...next picture I'll enlarge it and put on my glasses before I post a response...imo

No paneling that I see. The walls are white. That panel you see looks like the door to the TV cabinet.

Jinxagain
09-28-2007, 12:26 AM
Notice on the last photo of the perp, a DARK SPOT on his chest?
What is that spot..if it's a mole, he could be easily identified..

Doctors should keep an eye open for a male wanting a mole/dark spot removed from his chest.....jmo

It almost looked indented to me, like a large scar. My first thought was the guy had had a bullet removed. That would be easy to check. :shrug:

odette
09-28-2007, 06:59 AM
Nevada Police Ask for Help in "Most Horrible" Crime

Nevada Police Hope To Make Rescue

VIDEO: Watch this story

abclocal.go.com - Associated Press

09/27/2007 - The picture of this little girl haunts Nevada Sheriff Tony Demeo. Demeo says, "There's times I think about this girl you get a little emotional about it I know I haven't gotten any sleep, waking up praying we find out who she is."
She has light brown hair and big blue eyes. Investigators believe she is four, maybe five, years old and they know she is the victim of sexual assault. They saw her being repeatedly abused on a half hour videotape.

Det. David Boruchowitz, Pahrump County Sheriff's Department, says,"If you could use your imagination it's the absolute worst thing you could imagine." .....

continued:
http://abclocal.go.com/kfsn/story?section=local&id=5679487

odette
09-28-2007, 07:13 AM
CRIMEWATCH: Protecting Children From Abuse

What signs can you look for in sexual abuse cases?

http://i13.tinypic.com/4mx4d3l.gif » Watch Story

statejournal.com - Story by Jessica Lilly - Updated Thursday, September 27, 2007 ; 06:50 PM

BECKLEY- -- Detectives in Nevada recently released images of a young girl dressed in lingerie and being sexually assaulted.

They've launched a nationwide search, hoping someone can identify the girl or the abuser.

Police here say child sex abuse is always a concern and talk about ways you can help.

Detectives in Nevada say the little girl is victim to one of the worst cases of child sexual assault they have ever seen.

One man was arrested in this case. Now Investigators are searching others involved in this abuse.

After receiving a tip, police arrested and charged 26-year-old Darren Tuck with possession of child pornography.

They say he didn't make the tape, but isn't telling police where he got it. .....

continued:
http://www.statejournal.com/story.cfm?func=viewstory&storyid=29466

odette
09-28-2007, 07:19 AM
New info in unidentified abuse victim case

kvbc.com - Sep 28, 2007 04:42 AM

Authorities are releasing images from a sex tape in the hope of finding two girls who appear in them. The videotape was turned in to police by a man who said he found it in the Nevada desert.

Nye County sheriff's detectives say the tape shows a man performing sex acts on a girl who's about 4 or 5. It also shows a girl believed to be 10 to 12 years old appearing in "some kind of peep show." .....

continued:
http://www.kvbc.com/Global/story.asp?S=7132359&nav=15MUCBSd

odette
09-28-2007, 07:41 AM
MOLESTATION TAPE: Police locate older child on tape

Girl, now a teen, wasn't assaulted

Las Vegas Review-Journal - By BETH WALTON - REVIEW-JOURNAL - Sep. 28, 2007

One of the young girls on a tape of the sexual assault of a child has been identified and is safe and at home in Pahrump with her parents, authorities said.

After the media broadcast photographs of the girl, authorities were notified late Wednesday night that the girl, who is now a teen, was OK, said Nye County Sheriff Tony DeMeo. The girl was not a victim of sexual abuse on the tape nor did the suspect seen on the videotape sexually abuse her, DeMeo said.

Police say the teen was a victim of a peeping tom in January 2005, when someone videotaped the girl through a window at her Pahrump home as she looked at herself in a mirror. After noticing someone watching her, the girl turns around and the video fades away. Police believe the voyeur stopped taping and ran away after being noticed.

The teenager told her parents, who called authorities, but when sheriff's deputies got to the home, whoever had been watching her was gone.

Because they now know the date of the peeping tom case, authorities now have a better idea of when the sexual assault was filmed. They believe it couldn't have been any earlier than January 2005 because the footage of the older girl was shot before the sexual assault, DeMeo said. The recorded assault interrupts and records over the voyeur footage. .....

continued
http://www.lvrj.com/news/10103716.html

odette
09-28-2007, 08:26 AM
Someone Must Know Who This Man Is!

http://i20.tinypic.com/ieq83q.jpg
Suspect

odette
09-28-2007, 08:35 AM
http://www.freesmileys.org/emo/signs133.gif (http://www.freesmileys.org)

OFFICE OF THE NYE COUNTY SHERIFF - PDF DOCUMENT
http://www.nyecountysheriff.net/ncso_seeking_to_identify_victim_of_crime.pdf

lindsey9381
09-28-2007, 08:40 AM
[QUOTE=Portabella;9000926]Can anyone make out what that little black thing is on the right side of the head of the bed on the floor, there is an obvious plastic bad there too. Looks like the type you have at motels the cheap kind.

Also...the other little girl was taped through a window, she was in another part of the tape and evidently when she noticed she was being taped by him he fled, so I don't believe she has a clue who he is. But, if he was doing it in Nevada in her town, you can bet he is affiliated or lives in that town or close by.[/QUOTE

It is a shot in the dark but to me it looks like a measuring cup.

Jinxagain
09-28-2007, 09:47 AM
I grew up in Nevada and I've been to Pahrump. It's a pretty small place. I can't imagine anyone could live there for any length of time and not be noticed by someone.

My mom worked for the DA in my little county in Nevada and also did child support enforcement. She knows a lot of the "Nevada sleazeballs" so I sent her a link to the pdf.

odette
09-28-2007, 09:54 AM
He Claims He Found It While Dirt-Biking In The Desert, But Held It For 5 Months

-- Cops Eye Sex Tape-Finder's Story --

CBS NEWS - PAHRUMP, Nev., Sept. 28, 2007

(CBS/AP) - Police continue searching for a little girl seen being abused in a pornographic videotape, as well as an adult man seen in the videotape, while the man who claimed to have found the tape in the Nevada desert could face charges himself.

The little girl is about 4 or 5 years old.

Darren Tuck, 26, turned over that video to detectives back in early September. At the time, he told detectives he merely found the videotape in the desert while riding his dirt bike.

"He is driving around in the desert. He sees it. He's curious. He picks it up, takes it home, plugs it in, take a few minutes to realize it is what he feared it was - horrible acts being done on a child," attorney Harry Kuehn told Melissa Duran of CBS affiliate KLAS-TV.

Investigators have doubts about that story.

"A reasonable person doesn't hold onto this for five months," Detective David Boruchowitz said. "To me, as a human being and as a father, that is unacceptable and I don't buy it."

Kuehn says Tuck may even have helped in possibly saving the little girl's life.

"That was not his goal, because if that was his goal, he wouldn't have held onto that for five months. And until somebody provides me a reasonable explanation as to why he possibly left this girl in danger, until then, I don't buy it. Unacceptable all around," Boruchowitz told KLAS. .....

continued
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/09/28/national/main3306961.shtml

odette
09-28-2007, 10:10 AM
Man Who Turned in Disturbing Video Could go to Prison

lasvegasnow.com - Melissa Duran, Reporter - Sep 28, 2007 04:26 PM

The Pahrump man who turned in that videotape to authorities could face a list of felony charges. Detectives say 26-year-old Darren Tuck held onto the video for five months before turning it over to police. .....

SLIDESHOW: Enhanced Photos Released by Nye County Sheriff

continued
http://www.lasvegasnow.com/Global/story.asp?S=7127939

odette
09-28-2007, 10:34 AM
Second girl on abuse tape identified

http://i13.tinypic.com/4mx4d3l.gif » Attorney for man who had videotape speaks out

http://i13.tinypic.com/4mx4d3l.gif » Second girl on abuse tape identified

kvbc.com - Sep 28, 2007 10:13 AM

There are Big breaks Thursday in the case of two girls seen on a child sex tape. Police have identified one of the girls. News 3's Collette Wieland is following this story for us.

The Nye County Sheriff's Department found the older girl seen on the tape. The young brunette female also seen on the tape told investigators she was not abused by the man seen in the video, in fact she doesn't even know who he is or the identity of the little girl.

She is a Pahrump resident and that tells police that at least a portion of the tape was shot in southern Nevada. The focus still remains on finding the other girl.

"Someone out there is going to give us information that's going to lead us to who this young girl is so we can rescue her from the situation, and that's going to lead us to the suspect so we can bring him into the criminal justice system for prosecution," Nye County Sheriff Tony DeMeo told News 3. .....

continued
http://www.kvbc.com/Global/story.asp?S=7138275

Portabella
09-28-2007, 11:24 AM
http://www.newicm.com...n.htm

I found this yesterday, they are still saying this could have happened in 2003, I believe it is much more recent.

I am struggling with finding the sheets...I have looked at so many sights and have yet to find a match. I guess I am going to go to E bay and maybe I can find them there. If I can get a brand, I can find them.

Also, if you look at the one photo, it looks like there is a square thingy outside the window, almost like the bottom of a screen door. I wonder if this is on of those motels that you rent by the week or month. That would account for the smallness, also would account for him having his own sheets on the bed.

I also believe the bed does not have a frame, its a mattress and boxspring on the floor. I have done this myself in the past as I have been on the poor side of the tracks many a time. Hence no headboard. Also, the dust ruffle could usually be tucked under to hide the offensive boxspring from showing, but if you have ever had your bed on the floor, it never stays tucked in. Hence it being bunched up.

Tell me what you see in the reflection of the television. I have been working this for hours and see so many things, I think my eyes are playing tricks.

odette
09-28-2007, 11:50 AM
Link To Still/Photo Showing Mole/Mark On Suspect's Chest

http://i20.tinypic.com/2na6840.jpg

Portabella
09-28-2007, 12:19 PM
PAHRUMP, Nev. -- Nye County police plan to release new information in the investigation to find the man and a girl in a sex tape.

Officers said that thanks to the media coverage, they have had several breaks in the case, including the identity of a second, older girl featured in another scene of the tape.

Darren Tuck, the man who turned the tape over to authorities, is expected to undergo a polygraph test Friday. Police would not confirm that the new information has anything to do with Tuck.

The news conference is scheduled for 11 a.m. Friday. Stay with FOX5 News or refresh fox5vegas.com for continual updates to this story.

Moms4Justice
09-28-2007, 12:19 PM
http://www.newicm.com...n.htm

I found this yesterday, they are still saying this could have happened in 2003, I believe it is much more recent.

I am struggling with finding the sheets...I have looked at so many sights and have yet to find a match. I guess I am going to go to E bay and maybe I can find them there. If I can get a brand, I can find them.

Also, if you look at the one photo, it looks like there is a square thingy outside the window, almost like the bottom of a screen door. I wonder if this is on of those motels that you rent by the week or month. That would account for the smallness, also would account for him having his own sheets on the bed.

I also believe the bed does not have a frame, its a mattress and boxspring on the floor. I have done this myself in the past as I have been on the poor side of the tracks many a time. Hence no headboard. Also, the dust ruffle could usually be tucked under to hide the offensive boxspring from showing, but if you have ever had your bed on the floor, it never stays tucked in. Hence it being bunched up.

Tell me what you see in the reflection of the television. I have been working this for hours and see so many things, I think my eyes are playing tricks.

The dust ruffle tells me that an adult woman slept in that bed. Most bachelor's will not take the time to make sure there is a dust ruffle on the bed, especially one with no frame. Maybe he is at the home of the child's mother? IMO
Maybe the child and the mother are missing or even worse. I sure hope they have thoroughly searched the missing people files and all the Jane doe's that have not been identified.

Portabella
09-28-2007, 12:28 PM
I know that if he was going to be taking footage often, he may take the time to put on a ruffle and tuck to hide the box spring....IMHO. I also don't see any hints of a toy anywhere, that bugs me, where there is even the poorest of children you will see a toy or two. The room looks rather un lived in actually. If you look on the entertainment stand, you will see other VHS's and they could very well be his other child porn tapes.

Also, the television appears to be smudged as a child will touch the screen. Look close at it, its dirty and you can almost see the finger smudge area. Could be a family member with a no tell motel rented for his porn making. Just a thought.....

andU
09-28-2007, 12:33 PM
:mad: Very good pictures....Notice the Cheap wooden cabinet/armoire with the TV and VCR in it...
A reflection of the room can be seen on the screen of the TV..

The walls of this room look like some type of PINE PANELING.
How common is the pine paneling in the Vegas area?.....jmo


IMO, these look like they were taken in someone's home, not a motel room. Since the video was supposedly found in the desert, it could have been taken in any of the surrounding states and 'left' there or thrown from a vehicle.

odette
09-28-2007, 12:40 PM
Does the pattern on the dust ruffle look like it's made up of musical notes, i.e. the 'bass note' ?

http://i22.tinypic.com/34s1doh.jpg

Portabella
09-28-2007, 12:52 PM
I thought the same thing and have spent hours searching for that bedding, I have found musical note bedding, but nothing that even looks close, just a dead end and its driving me bat poop!!!

Moms4Justice
09-28-2007, 12:54 PM
Does the pattern on the dust ruffle look like it's made up of musical notes, i.e. the 'bass note' ?

http://i22.tinypic.com/34s1doh.jpg


Could this possibly be a top sheet or a comforter/blanket and not a dust ruffle>

odette
09-28-2007, 01:01 PM
*snipped*

http://www.newicm.com...n.htm

Portabella, this link you gave at the beginning of your post doesn't work for me :confused:

odette
09-28-2007, 01:05 PM
Could this possibly be a top sheet or a comforter/blanket and not a dust ruffle>

I guess that it could be the top sheet laying there all scrunched up on the floor.

Angie1960
09-28-2007, 01:24 PM
We are all aware of the horrific case of a 5 year old girl who was being raped by this man when this picture was being taken. This is the face of evil. While CLD is having an on-going discussion about this case here (http://boards.crimelibrary.com/showthread.php?p=9001416#post9001416), I wanted to talk about the broader issues this depravity brings to light.

There are many faces that we cannot see that are complicit as well. The obvious faces , the person taking this video, the person who sold it, the person who bought it, the person who saw it and did nothing. All are guilty of raping this child.

In our ever increasingly transient society where communities are larger and few people know one another the terror of child pornography finds a place to thrive. There are no mechanisms of social control to stop this evil. Child rapists rely on the silence of their victims and the silence of others like them. It is incumbent upon all of us to do our part in disrupting the process. Take an interest in the children in your community. Look at them and if you notice something is wrong with a child, take action! No family that truly cares about their children is offended when another adult makes sure that a child is truly safe.

In this case it is my prayer that ever person who watched this rape face severe sanctions for doing so. I am confident as this case gets more national attention the rapist will be discovered as will his other victims. Spread this face of evil everywhere you go on the web. Send this face of evil to everyone you know. Together we can find this evil. Together we can stop this evil from hurting another child.

My 2 cents

Freshwater[/QUOTE]



This DEPRAVITY is what our country should be focusing on stopping - we should have a "war on pedophiles" but everyone's so afraid to even talk about it - the majority of people still don't want to face the fact that this stuff IS HAPPENING! This country needs to stop allowing this decrepid epidemic. It has to STOP!

I wish I had the power to make everyone not pay their taxes until we started really focusing on children's issues and stop the rhetoric about it.

:cuss:

Jo_Momma_82
09-28-2007, 01:29 PM
It looks to me like a plaid (maybe flannel) top sheet thats crumpled down onto the floor. The white parts that look like musical notes... if you look at one closer to the wall it looks more like 4 white squares.

Moms4Justice
09-28-2007, 02:21 PM
It looks to me like a plaid (maybe flannel) top sheet thats crumpled down onto the floor. The white parts that look like musical notes... if you look at one closer to the wall it looks more like 4 white squares.

Yes, I agree flannel top sheet is what I'm actually thinking. Mix-matched sheets on the bed IMO fits the "scene".

Moms4Justice
09-28-2007, 02:26 PM
This DEPRAVITY is what our country should be focusing on stopping - we should have a "war on pedophiles" but everyone's so afraid to even talk about it - the majority of people still don't want to face the fact that this stuff IS HAPPENING! This country needs to stop allowing this decrepid epidemic. It has to STOP!

I wish I had the power to make everyone not pay their taxes until we started really focusing on children's issues and stop the rhetoric about it.

:cuss:


AMEN! These children are this world's FUTURE! Child molesters, sexual predators & human trafficking HAS to be stopped or I don't want to even imagine what my grandchildren will have to live with!:flamemad:

odette
09-28-2007, 02:34 PM
Watch live streaming of the Nye County Sheriff's news conference at 11 a.m. regarding their investigation into a video showing a young girl being sexually abused.

http://www.lasvegasnow.com/Global/category.asp?C=5548&nav=menu102_2

Moms4Justice
09-28-2007, 02:49 PM
The news conference gave a name of a POI!
Chester Author Stiles b-day is 09-14-1970
Go sleuth's GO!

:rose: Praying this child is found safe TODAY!

Angie1960
09-28-2007, 03:14 PM
http://www.rootsweb.com/~inknox/buick.htm

I saw some inquiries - trying to find a Chester Stiles on a GI search website - so he may have been in the army at one time - possible once stationed at Camp Legune in NC many years ago... I emailed her but it came back to me - I emailed another person looiking for him Name: Verena Stiles Bowen
Email: vbowen@ec.rr.com, Date: 16 Jun 2003 - "I am updating my email. Am still looking for Chester Stiles and Eliza Decker Stiles"

I emailed her too. I'm still looking for anything I can find on this name.

odette
09-28-2007, 03:26 PM
STILES, CHESTER A (Age 37) HOUSTON, TX ?

Moms4Justice
09-28-2007, 03:31 PM
FOUND HIM ON ANCESTRY.COM BUT YOU HAVE TO HAVE A MEMBERSHIP TO VIEW.

Kentucky Birth Index, 1911-1999 (http://www.ancestry.com/search/db.aspx?dbid=8788&enc=1)
about Chester Arthur Stiles

Name:Chester Arthur StilesGender:Male Date of Birth:14 Sep 1970County:Jefferson Mother's name:Sandra L CookeRegister Date:18 Sep 1970 Volume Number:080 Certificate Number:39695 Volume Year:1970

Moms4Justice
09-28-2007, 03:32 PM
He was born in Jefferson Kentucky

Angie1960
09-28-2007, 03:34 PM
The last two emails I sent came back so here is a link to a church - I found his name on a prayer list from there. I have emailed the church as well.

Here is the site:

http://www.peaceofchristparish.org/Bulletins%20%20Winton%20Culver/2007/2007_January%2014.pdf

andU
09-28-2007, 03:39 PM
It looks to me like a plaid (maybe flannel) top sheet thats crumpled down onto the floor. The white parts that look like musical notes... if you look at one closer to the wall it looks more like 4 white squares.


I agree that it looks like plaid flannel

Moms4Justice
09-28-2007, 03:41 PM
He is from Kentucky and I found a Madison Stiles that was born in Clark county Kentucky in 1997. There is not father listed on the what I found! I wonder if this child is his daughter!? She would have been 5 in Oct. 2003 consistent with the tape.

odette
09-28-2007, 03:44 PM
Chester Arthur Stiles Wanted Person Of Interest: Child Rape Tape

postchronicle - by Jack Ryan - Sep 28, 2007

Chester Arthur Stiles Wanted - Police in Nye County, Nevada have named Chester Stiles a person of interest in connection to the rape tape, which shows a child being sexually abused by an adult male.

Chester Stiles, 34, is a sex offender wanted by the Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Department. According to authorities, Chester Arthur Stiles is 6'3, 190 pounds with brown hair and green eyes.

http://www.postchronicle.com/news/original/article_212106305.shtm

Angie1960
09-28-2007, 03:45 PM
http://www.hatchersaddler.com/All%20Obits/B/Brown,%20William%20H./william_h.htm

He is listed as a survivor of Bill Bowen - there are a couple of emails in the guest registery we can try...

odette
09-28-2007, 03:50 PM
Nevada sheriff names man sought in videotaped sexual assault on young girl

brandonsun.com - Canadian Press - Friday, September 28th, 2007

LAS VEGAS - Nevada authorities on Friday identified a man they want to question as they search for a young girl shown being sexually assaulted in a homemade videotape.

Chester Stiles, 34, was being called a "person of interest" in the search for a girl with haunting eyes who authorities believe was four or five years old when she was raped and sexually assaulted in the video, Nye County Sheriff Tony DeMeo said.

The girl is called "Madison" on the tape, and it is "possible" that the man shown in it is Stiles, DeMeo said.

Stiles, whose last known address was Las Vegas, also was wanted on unrelated state and federal warrants on charges of sexual assault and lewdness with a minor under 14 years of age, the sheriff said.

"We know he has those warrants," DeMeo told The Associated Press by telephone from Pahrump, a rural town 100 kilometres from Las Vegas. "For us, he is a person of interest. We want to talk with Mr. Stiles about the identity of the female victim."

Investigators believe the tape was shot sometime since January 2005.

The Associated Press generally does not identify or release photos of suspected victims of sexual abuse but is doing so in this case in the interest of the girl's safe recovery.

http://www.brandonsun.com/story.php?story_id=71937

Moms4Justice
09-28-2007, 03:51 PM
Interestingly the Madison born in Kentucky...her Mothers exact same name is listed as getting married in Nevada in 2000. Sharon M. Fisher. So it puts them in Kentucky (where Stiles was born) and in Navada (where the tape was found) hmmmm
*reminding everyone that this may not be Chester Stiles daughter*

One2Snoop
09-28-2007, 03:52 PM
Person Of Interest

http://www.lvmpd.com/images/wanted_fugitives/stiles_lg.jpg
http://i20.tinypic.com/ieq83q.jpg
Suspect

Chester Arthur Stiles

Description: White Male
Height: 6'3"
Weight: 190
Hair: Brown
Eyes: Green
Age: 34


Wanted by LVMPD for: Sexual assault and lewdness with a minor under 14 years of age.


http://www.lvmpd.com/crime/wanted_fugitives_stiles.html

One2Snoop
09-28-2007, 04:00 PM
I posted the two pics together in my post above so we could compare to see if they look like the same person. I tend to think so.

odette
09-28-2007, 04:03 PM
Sex tape search

Nevada sheriff names man sought in sexual assault of young girl

hoinews - Posted: Friday, September 28, 2007 at 2:12 p.m.

(AP) -- LAS VEGAS - Nevada authorities have identified a man they want to question as they search for a young girl shown being sexually assaulted in a homemade videotape. Authorities say Chester Arthur Stiles is being called a "person of interest" in the search for a girl who authorities believe was 4 or 5 years old when she was raped and sexually assaulted in the explicit video.

Stiles, whose last known address was Las Vegas, is also wanted on unrelated state and federal warrants on charges of sexual assault and lewdness with a minor under 14 years of age. Authorities say is "possible" that Stiles is the man shown on the videotape assaulting the girl. .....

http://www.hoinews.com/news/news_story.aspx?id=53969

http://i23.tinypic.com/vhwdjp.jpg
Chester Arthur Stiles

Angie1960
09-28-2007, 04:04 PM
http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/scripts/getcase.pl?court=wi&vol=2007%5C27996&invol=2

Moms4Justice
09-28-2007, 04:18 PM
I posted the two pics together in my post above so we could compare to see if they look like the same person. I tend to think so.


Absolutely they look like the same person to me! The eyebrows & the high cheekbones are just two very distinctive similarities.

Angie1960
09-28-2007, 04:18 PM
And she is in jail in Wisconsin for raping a sex slave with her husband!!!!!

odette
09-28-2007, 04:20 PM
Police Release More Information in Disturbing Video Case

KLAS-TV and AP

WEB EXTRA: News Conference Regarding Disturbing Video

(UPDATE: 11:15 a.m.) -- The Associated Press reports that Chester Arthur Stiles, 34, was being called a "person of interest" in the search for a girl with haunting eyes who authorities believe was 4 or 5 years old when she was raped and sexually assaulted in the explicit video, Nye County Sheriff Tony DeMeo said. .....

continued
Police Release More Information in Disturbing Video Case (http://www.lasvegasnow.com/Global/story.asp?S=7141733&nav=menu102_2)

heycupcake
09-28-2007, 04:20 PM
The girl and the man have the same lips and eyes (imo).... I wonder if thats her father (SICK S.O.B.) which could be why it's so difficult to find her....

I agree, they look very similar, especially the lips and eyes. That's pretty eerie considering what Moms4Justice found which may very well link the perp and the victim as father & daughter. Not that it matters, it's disgusting and a horrible crime regardless of whether or not they're related - but a father breaking that trust with his own daughter just adds another dimension of awfulness to it.

One2Snoop
09-28-2007, 04:21 PM
http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/scripts/getcase.pl?court=wi&vol=2007%5C27996&invol=2


I'm sorry, I don't understand - how is this related? :confused:

Angie1960
09-28-2007, 04:26 PM
Moms4Justice;9001841]Interestingly the Madison born in Kentucky...her Mothers exact same name is listed as getting married in Nevada in 2000. Sharon M. Fisher. So it puts them in Kentucky (where Stiles was born) and in Navada (where the tape was found) hmmmm
*reminding everyone that this may not be Chester Stiles daughter[/B]*

OK Moms - help me out here - please read this...


http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/script...C27996&invol=2

odette
09-28-2007, 04:31 PM
Nevada Cops Name Person of Interest in Child Porn Case; Still Seeking Girl in Video

FOX NEWS - Friday, September 28, 2007

LAS VEGAS — Nevada police released the name of a person of interest Friday in connection with a child pornography video, which showed a man performing explicit sex acts on a younger, still unidentified girl believed to go by the first name Madison.

Chester Arthur Stiles, 37, is wanted for questioning in connection with the sex tape, believed to have been made between 2003 and January 2005.

"We're not going to stop, regardless, until this girl is rescued, until we find out her disposition," Nye County Sheriff Anthony L. DeMeo said at a press conference.

Stiles is wanted on a previous Las Vegas warrant for sexual assault and lewdness with a minor under 14 years of age, according to the Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Department Web site.

Officials also released what they believe to be the first name of the unidentified girl, Madison, who appears to be 4 or 5 at the time of the filming. She has a significant birthmark. .....

continued
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,298500,00.html

fsbiii
09-28-2007, 04:36 PM
April 2003?

http://www.gisearch.com/lostfound/ldM.16.0.11557/

Title: Chester (Chet) StilesPosted by: Angela Fehringer (angel_hot692000)Date Posted: 2003-04-11 07:18:31Message: I am looking for an old friend of mine. His name is Chester Stiles. He would be in his 30's. Last I heard he had last been stationed somewhere in Okinawa. Anyone with any info please email me at angel_hot692000@yahoo.com Thank you, Angela Fries

Moms4Justice
09-28-2007, 04:37 PM
And she is in jail in Wisconsin for raping a sex slave with her husband!!!!!

OMG! I am sick to my stomach aftrer reading that link you provided about her! This woman could very well be this childs mother.

fsbiii
09-28-2007, 04:40 PM
I found a myspace page for "Arthur Stiles"

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=83912388

Says he's 38 in Las Vegas, Nevada, too. Last updated 12/27/2006

Jinxagain
09-28-2007, 04:40 PM
I think we're getting a little carried away jumping to conclusions that he's her father. If this tape was made in early 2005, as they're now saying, a girl born in 97 would be seven. That baby was not seven in the video. I think they're pushing it when they say she's five.

On the other hand, she could very well be his daughter, just not the Madison Stiles born in Kentucky in 1997. Just a thought...

Moms4Justice
09-28-2007, 04:41 PM
April 2003?

http://www.gisearch.com/lostfound/ldM.16.0.11557/

Title: Chester (Chet) StilesPosted by: Angela Fehringer (angel_hot692000)Date Posted: 2003-04-11 07:18:31Message: I am looking for an old friend of mine. His name is Chester Stiles. He would be in his 30's. Last I heard he had last been stationed somewhere in Okinawa. Anyone with any info please email me at angel_hot692000@yahoo.com Thank you, Angela Fries

When I found him on Ancestry I looked for military background but it had none associated with his name and birthdate. But that doesn't mean it hasn't been added yet though.

Jinxagain
09-28-2007, 04:42 PM
I found a myspace page for "Arthur Stiles"

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=83912388

Says he's 38 in Las Vegas, Nevada, too. Last updated 12/27/2006

Hmm...he's a Pisces. Someone born in September would be a Virgo. :shrug:

Moms4Justice
09-28-2007, 04:43 PM
I think we're getting a little carried away jumping to conclusions that he's her father. If this tape was made in early 2005, as they're now saying, a girl born in 97 would be seven. That baby was not seven in the video. I think they're pushing it when they say she's five.

On the other hand, she could very well be his daughter, just not the Madison Stiles born in Kentucky in 1997. Just a thought...

You are correct and I added that to my post. ;)

Moms4Justice
09-28-2007, 04:45 PM
Hmm...he's a Pisces. Someone born in September would be a Virgo. :shrug:

They could have given a fake birth month. That happens a lot on myspace.

odette
09-28-2007, 04:46 PM
THE SMOKING GUN - Criminal Complaint Document Shown At The Below Link

Accused Pervert Sought In Sex Tape Case

"Person of interest" already wanted for attack on six-year-old girl

SEPTEMBER 28-- The man identified today as a "person of interest" in the videotaped sexual abuse of a young girl is wanted in Nevada for allegedly assaulting a six-year-old girl. Chester Arthur Stiles, 34, has been a fugitive since early-2004, when a Las Vegas judge issued an arrest warrant charging him with engaging in a lewd act with a minor. Details of that alleged sex assault are contained in a federal criminal complaint filed in late-July in U.S. District Court in Nevada (Stiles was charged with traveling interstate to avoid prosecution in the Las Vegas case). According to FBI Agent David King, Stiles fled after learning of the Las Vegas arrest warrant from relatives. In a press conference today, investigators identified Stiles (pictured above) as a "person of interest" in connection with the videotaped attack of a child they identified as "Madison." The videotape of the harrowing attack was seized from another man who is now jailed on child pornography charges, but is not suspected of involvement in production of the tape. The man claimed to have found the video in the Nevada desert, an assertion that police have openly questioned.

continued
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2007/0928071stiles1.html

http://i22.tinypic.com/2u56h6r.jpg
Chester Arthur Stiles

Angie1960
09-28-2007, 04:46 PM
OMG! I am sick to my stomach aftrer reading that link you provided about her! This woman could very well be this childs mother.

I know - I think someone should call the Wisconsin authorities and alert them that we need info on whether she has a child or not and where that child is - - I can't do it because I am at work - doing this silently.

Moms can you call a tip into Nye County and explain this connection?

Moms4Justice
09-28-2007, 05:04 PM
I think we're getting a little carried away jumping to conclusions that he's her father. If this tape was made in early 2005, as they're now saying, a girl born in 97 would be seven. That baby was not seven in the video. I think they're pushing it when they say she's five.

On the other hand, she could very well be his daughter, just not the Madison Stiles born in Kentucky in 1997. Just a thought...


In an update today the police are saying they believe the tape was made in 2003 or 2004.
http://www.lasvegasnow.com/Global/story.asp?S=7141733&nav=menu102_2

odette
09-28-2007, 05:08 PM
Clues Caught on Tape Key to Child Porn Cases

Details Like Clothing Manufacturers and Decor Can Help Locate Child Victims

ABC NEWS - By EMILY FRIEDMAN - Sept. 28, 2007

For the investigators seeking to identify child pornography victims, every little bit of information – from the designer of the clothing worn in the pictures to the type of wallpaper in the background – helps, law enforcement experts told ABCNEWS.com.

"We look at the house and the building and determine whether [the tape was filmed] outside," said Detective Constable Bill McGarry, an image analyst at the child exploitation section of the sex crimes unit at the Toronto Police Department. "We look for anything that will point us to a geographical location and also try isolate objects in the background – furniture, bedding, clothing – things that we can trace to certain manufacturers. It's a lead that can make all the difference."

These clues, said McGarry, are vital to cases like the one in Nye County, Nev., where authorities are searching for the second girl seen on a videotape that depicts a man performing sex acts on a young girl. The tape was turned over to authorities by Darren Tuck, who said he found the tape in the desert and has since been arrested on charges of possession and promoting child pornography. .....

continued: X 3 Pages
http://www.abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=3665900&page=1

KindraLore
09-28-2007, 05:09 PM
http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/scripts/getcase.pl?court=wi&vol=2007%5C27996&invol=2

If you read the link, the name of her husband is Randall. Not Chester or Arthur.

Angie1960
09-28-2007, 05:12 PM
He is from Kentucky and I found a Madison Stiles that was born in Clark county Kentucky in 1997. There is not father listed on the what I found! I wonder if this child is his daughter!? She would have been 5 in Oct. 2003 consistent with the tape.

Interestingly the Madison born in Kentucky...her Mothers exact same name is listed as getting married in Nevada in 2000. Sharon M. Fisher. So it puts them in Kentucky (where Stiles was born) and in Navada (where the tape was found) hmmmm.

http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/script...C27996&invol=2

Does this make ayone elses skin crawl - can you please check out what Moms found then check this website and see about Sharon M. Fisher - could this be her mother?

Should we call in a tip to Nye County????????? :eek:

Angie1960
09-28-2007, 05:14 PM
He is from Kentucky and I found a Madison Stiles that was born in Clark county Kentucky in 1997. There is not father listed on the what I found! I wonder if this child is his daughter!? She would have been 5 in Oct. 2003 consistent with the tape.

Interestingly the Madison born in Kentucky...her Mothers exact same name is listed as getting married in Nevada in 2000. Sharon M. Fisher. So it puts them in Kentucky (where Stiles was born) and in Navada (where the tape was found) hmmmm.

http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/script...C27996&invol=2

Does this make ayone elses skin crawl - can you please check out what Moms found then check this website and see about Sharon M. Fisher - could this be her mother?

Should we call in a tip to Nye County????????? :eek:

Now I found that her husband's name is Randall Fisher - so maybe not related?

Moms - who did Sharon M. Fisher marry?

Moms4Justice
09-28-2007, 05:17 PM
If you read the link, the name of her husband is Randall. Not Chester or Arthur.

Chester's last name isn't Fisher either which would conclude that this woman and Chester Stiles were NOT married & therefore she could be married to a different man.
There is a Sharon Fisher who had a child named Madison STILES. There may be a connection BUT there also there may be NO connection whatsoever. IMO this crime is so horrendous why rule out anything? The things I have posted were intended for other sleuth's to maybe check out and add to....Never have I said fact to anything other than finding out Chester was born in Kentucky & I have proof for that one.

Angie1960
09-28-2007, 05:22 PM
Chester's last name isn't Fisher either which would conclude that this woman and Chester Stiles were NOT married & therefore she could be married to a different man.
There is a Sharon Fisher who had a child named Madison STILES. There may be a connection BUT there also there may be NO connection whatsoever. IMO this crime is so horrendous why rule out anything? The things I have posted were intended for other sleuth's to maybe check out and add to....Never have I said fact to anything other than finding out Chester was born in Kentucky & I have proof for that one.

I agree - and I think that it too much of a coincidence that there is a Madison Stiles born in Nevada - and they are referring to this child as Madison and the perps name is Chester Stiles - here is a phone # I found for a Sharon Fisher in Las Vegas: Anybody feel like trying the number? could be old. I can't - still at work.

Sharon Fisher

8301 W Charleston Blvd

Las Vegas, NV 89117-1245

(702) 876-2836

heycupcake
09-28-2007, 05:39 PM
Don't forget the e-mail to send tips on this case is findchild@nyesheriff.net

Here is the automated response:

Thank you for the information that you have provided and assisting us in the identification of the child and/or suspect pictured in our Alert.

It may be your tip that solves this case.

Should you receive this Auto responder and a notice of an “Undeliverable Email” do not be concerned. If you have received the Auto Responder, we have received your information, on the Nye County Sheriff Office Server.

The General Nye County Server, which duplicates the Email, has blocked your message by way of its Firewall.

Nye County Sheriff's Office
Anthony L. De Meo
Sheriff
In Partnership With The Community

Moms4Justice
09-28-2007, 06:07 PM
does it look like the top of gown is stuffed?
It thought the same thing. It looks like an adult lingerie with built in pads?

odette
09-28-2007, 06:15 PM
Some more photo's of Chester Stiles.

http://lasvegasnow.com/Global/story.asp?S=7143784&nav=menu102_2

Moms4Justice
09-28-2007, 06:18 PM
Some more photo's of Chester Stiles.

http://lasvegasnow.com/Global/story.asp?S=7143784&nav=menu102_2

In that last picture I wonder why he had a scrape on his face? And is that a drivers license photo or a mug shot?

JBRnotforgotten
09-28-2007, 06:38 PM
I dont know about the tape but does that child not look like she knows the person filming her?

odette
09-28-2007, 06:39 PM
http://i23.tinypic.com/2drfo6t.jpg

http://i22.tinypic.com/e64ro0.jpg

Tracian
09-28-2007, 06:56 PM
Chester Arthur Stiles

Description: White Male
Height: 6'3"
Weight: 190
Hair: Brown
Eyes: Green
Age: 34


Wanted by LVMPD for: Sexual assault and lewdness with a minor under 14 years of age.

http://www.lvmpd.com/crime/wanted_fugitives_stiles.html

http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g165/Tracian/stiles_lg.jpg

compare:

http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g165/Tracian/7122379_BG2.jpg


I hope this is a break in this case.

JBRnotforgotten
09-28-2007, 06:58 PM
It thought the same thing. It looks like an adult lingerie with built in pads?

think we should check out womens lingerie

odette
09-28-2007, 07:05 PM
CNN - VIDEO - Search for sex tape victim 6:31

A Nevada sheriff says officials believe a child sex tape was made sometime between January 2005 and May 2007.

http://edition.cnn.com/2007/US/09/28/sextape.search.ap/index.html#cnnSTCVideo

One2Snoop
09-28-2007, 07:21 PM
I dont know about the tape but does that child not look like she knows the person filming her?

I thought I read officials think she's been abused over a period of time - something told them that while watching the video. eeeegads. :eek:

Let me see if I can find it.

odette
09-28-2007, 07:21 PM
http://www.freesmileys.org/emo/signs133.gif (http://www.freesmileys.org)

Official Website of the Nye County Sheriff's Office

ALERT ALERT ALERT ALERT

The Nye County Sheriff’s Office is asking for the public's help in trying to locate the Young Female Juvenile and suspect at this link. The Child is a victim of a heinous crime perpetrated by the suspect which can be seen in a video. The Wanted Flyer is in PDF format so that it can be printed by those interested in assisting law enforcement and placed in various locations as a Flyer.
Please click on link: Seeking to Identify Young Female who is a Victim of a Crime
E Mail Tips to: findchild@nyesheriff.net

http://nyecountysheriff.net/

Portabella
09-28-2007, 07:22 PM
In the photo's of Stiles they are providing I definately see the resemblance, however he would have had to have aged some and gained some weight. Also, do the ears throw anyone off, the perp in the video's ears don't seem so "out". I could be wrong, I am sure the police got to see the ears on both sides of his head and would have eliminated Stiles if the ears were against the head of the perp in the video right?

Still searching for the blooming sheets. Also if you look closely at the walls of the room, they appear to be wallpapered and not white paint, its the type wall paper you can wipe off a bit, has a gloss to it with barely visible swirls, zoom in people, tell me what you think. I have seen that wallpaper before at motels.

One2Snoop
09-28-2007, 07:23 PM
Chester Arthur Stiles

Description: White Male
Height: 6'3"
Weight: 190
Hair: Brown
Eyes: Green
Age: 34


Wanted by LVMPD for: Sexual assault and lewdness with a minor under 14 years of age.

http://www.lvmpd.com/crime/wanted_fugitives_stiles.html

http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g165/Tracian/stiles_lg.jpg

compare:

http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g165/Tracian/7122379_BG2.jpg


I hope this is a break in this case.

LOL - I posted the same thing on page 3. I guess it can't hurt to have it on every page. :patriot:

IvySterling
09-28-2007, 07:25 PM
http://i23.tinypic.com/2drfo6t.jpg

http://i22.tinypic.com/e64ro0.jpg

The side profile shot especially looks like the profile shot in the video

Angie1960
09-28-2007, 07:36 PM
In the photo's of Stiles they are providing I definately see the resemblance, however he would have had to have aged some and gained some weight. Also, do the ears throw anyone off, the perp in the video's ears don't seem so "out". I could be wrong, I am sure the police got to see the ears on both sides of his head and would have eliminated Stiles if the ears were against the head of the perp in the video right?

Still searching for the blooming sheets. Also if you look closely at the walls of the room, they appear to be wallpapered and not white paint, its the type wall paper you can wipe off a bit, has a gloss to it with barely visible swirls, zoom in people, tell me what you think. I have seen that wallpaper before at motels.

I don't doubt that it's him - if it's not it's his twin - and the guy is a child rapist - twin rapists? :eek:

Tracian
09-28-2007, 07:45 PM
LOL - I posted the same thing on page 3. I guess it can't hurt to have it on every page. :patriot:



I noticed that after I posted....I am just so sick over this case, I didn't look better...but hopefully that creature's image will be available enough that someone will recognize him.

Portabella
09-28-2007, 08:04 PM
I got on ......things are simmering down....

Here is the link that did not previously work. Spring of 2003 is what they said, not according to the site that makes the outfits.
http://www.newicm.com/s07-jungle_garden.htm

Moms4Justice
09-28-2007, 08:05 PM
I thought I read officials think she's been abused over a period of time - something told them that while watching the video. eeeegads. :eek:

Let me see if I can find it.

It was in the news conference...something along the lines of that they believe that because she showed "no emotion" during the rape and abuse!
I am heartbroken for this child! She HAS to be found!:rose:

Portabella
09-28-2007, 08:12 PM
I just looked and we have 168 guests.....Welcome guest....why don't you take a minute, get registered and join in, we need all the input we can get here and would love to hear your thoughts and opinions, we are a friendly bunch and we do make a difference at times.....Take the Lurker challenge and join us, you are truly welcome......:seeya: :seeya: :seeya:

One2Snoop
09-28-2007, 08:14 PM
It was in the news conference...something along the lines of that they believe that because she showed "no emotion" during the rape and abuse!
I am heartbroken for this child! She HAS to be found!:rose:

Ok thanks. I knew I heard or read something about it.

I know she looked like she was used to whatever was being done to her in that one closeup photo where it looks like she has her hands behind her head. :flamemad:

SeriousSearcher
09-28-2007, 08:18 PM
I don't doubt that it's him - if it's not it's his twin - and the guy is a child rapist - twin rapists? :eek: I believe this is the perp without a doubt. I hope it won't be long now before LE has him and finds this poor darling child.

Moms4Justice
09-28-2007, 08:31 PM
Portabella, try looking for that print in an adult size. The one she has on looks Identical but without the bow or the solid straps both of which would make it more of a "Child look" IMO. Great sleuthing btw!

Tracian
09-28-2007, 08:38 PM
Nancy Grace is reporting that the little girl was FOUND

Tracian
09-28-2007, 08:40 PM
NYE county is reporting that she was found with 'family'

JBRnotforgotten
09-28-2007, 08:44 PM
THANK GOD
she is safe and with family....

Tracian
09-28-2007, 08:45 PM
http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/09/28/sextape.search.ap/index.html


Thank God...now to find the creature

heycupcake
09-28-2007, 08:45 PM
THANK GOD
she is safe and with family....

Wait, how do we know she is "safe"? Where was this "family" when she was being raped?

JBRnotforgotten
09-28-2007, 08:46 PM
Wait, how do we know she is "safe"? Where was this "family" when she was being raped?

They said it on cnn that she is safe and with family

heycupcake
09-28-2007, 08:50 PM
I read that, actually. I was responding more to them than you. I'm sure she was "with family" before this crime too. Oh well, whatever. I'm so happy she was found. Now they can figure out who all to throw the book at.

Tracian
09-28-2007, 08:53 PM
Creepo that had the tape, failed a polygraph...about being involved in a child porn ring...according to NG's show...

Moms4Justice
09-28-2007, 09:13 PM
:rose: PRAISE GOD:rose:

NG show reported she was found "Safe".

Moms4Justice
09-28-2007, 09:16 PM
They said it on cnn that she is safe and with family

Madison has been "plastered" on T.V. and the internet for what...2 or 3 days now? What took the "family" so long to turn her in?? :cuss: Hiding something....or someone?:cuss:

Moms4Justice
09-28-2007, 09:17 PM
Creepo that had the tape, failed a polygraph...about being involved in a child porn ring...according to NG's show...
I hope they light a torch to his arse too!!! :cuss:

bluemoon
09-28-2007, 09:21 PM
She has been found! She is with her family. Check CNN

Tracian
09-28-2007, 09:26 PM
I think that the 'family' is highly suspect...something is not right...

JBRnotforgotten
09-28-2007, 09:26 PM
Madison has been "plastered" on T.V. and the internet for what...2 or 3 days now? What took the "family" so long to turn her in?? :cuss: Hiding something....or someone?:cuss:



That is a good one Moms4Justice. Wonder why the delay?

Tracian
09-28-2007, 09:34 PM
I agree so much with all of you....

First...the seasoned LE that viewed the tape said the little girl was 'blank' like her 'soul' was gone...how in the name of Zeus' butthole, would someone that loves this child not notice the 'change' in her personality?

This stinks to high heaven of some sick child porn ring...as far as I am concerned...like some of you have said...the family are SUSPECTS...

Moms4Justice
09-28-2007, 09:44 PM
I just read where DeMeo says Stiles is NOT Madison's father but that it appeared she may have been entrusted to his care.

http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/09/28/sextape.girl/index.html

I hope this poor excuse of a human is found soon and sent to the worse possible prison in the world to be TORTURED for the rest of his life by prisoner's that hate pedophiles!:flamemad:

Tracian
09-28-2007, 09:49 PM
I just read where DeMeo says Stiles is NOT Madison's father but that it appeared she may have been entrusted to his care.

http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/09/28/sextape.girl/index.html

I hope this poor excuse of a human is found soon and sent to the worse possible prison in the world to be TORTURED for the rest of his life by prisoner's that hate pedophiles!:flamemad:
Apparently more than once by her reactions....

Athena
09-28-2007, 09:54 PM
Oh dear God! :rose:

"The easiest way to explain it is if you can imagine the absolute worst things that can happen to a little girl at the hands of an adult male, that has happened and beyond," Nye County sheriff's Detective David Boruchowitz said of the video.

One2Snoop
09-28-2007, 09:54 PM
:rose: Ohhhh thank god she's been found. This is so sad. I hope they fry this sicko creep! :cuss:

Mishell1383
09-28-2007, 09:55 PM
oh how fitting, chester the molester:flamemad:

Athena
09-28-2007, 09:56 PM
He is just as guilty as the monster who did this. As long as perverts are willing to pay for these it will continue. :(

Nevadan Darren Tuck recently gave police the videotape, saying he found it in the desert. Police said the tape was in his possession for at least five months before he handed it over to authorities.

Tuck was arrested on charges of promoting child pornography and possession of child pornography, both felonies, and released without bail pending an appearance November 26 in Pahrump Justice Court, AP reported.

Tracian
09-28-2007, 09:57 PM
My sister said the same thing....IT is not human, IT is a creature...and creatures must be destroyed for the good of humanity.

Mishell1383
09-28-2007, 10:00 PM
THANK GOD
she is safe and with family....
Hopefully that means she is in fact safe :(

Mishell1383
09-28-2007, 10:03 PM
So now what!??!?!? She is supposedly safe and with the family? IS THAT IT!? I hope they don't leave her with them! Something is just not right here!

Tracian
09-28-2007, 10:12 PM
Here is the link to the NG transcripts....many of our questions are asked and answered there:

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0709/28/ng.01.html

One2Snoop
09-28-2007, 10:12 PM
So now what!??!?!? She is supposedly safe and with the family? IS THAT IT!? I hope they don't leave her with them! Something is just not right here!

I agree Mishell although until more information is released I'm just going to sit tight - not that I'm a patient person or anything but this mom may not have been aware of what was going on particularly if there were a matter of days or even upwards to 10 hours or more in between the molestation and when Madison was returned to her mother. This child was obviously numb to this from the photo's taken and may not have acted any differently when she returned home. There's still so much more to learn about what went on. IMO

odette
09-28-2007, 10:15 PM
I just read where DeMeo says Stiles is NOT Madison's father but that it appeared she may have been entrusted to his care.

http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/09/28/sextape.girl/index.html

I hope this poor excuse of a human is found soon and sent to the worse possible prison in the world to be TORTURED for the rest of his life by prisoner's that hate pedophiles!:flamemad:

IMO, There seems to be some confusion about the 'connection' between Chester Stiles and the little girl. I was at one website a short time ago and the caption beneath the photo of Stiles referred to him as the little girls father and when I went back just now they had removed that caption and replaced it with something completely different. :confused:

One2Snoop
09-28-2007, 10:18 PM
I thought it was 4 or 5 months and not days that Tuck had the tape? I'm confused. :confused:

From the Nancy Grace Transcript....

DET. DAVID BORUCHOWITZ, NYE COUNTY SHERIFF`S DEPARTMENT: Chester Arthur Stiles. Chester Arthur Stiles is wanted by Las Vegas Police Department for sexual assault and lewdness with a minor under the age of 14 years of age. There is a nationwide warrant out for him from metro -- Las Vegas Metropolitan Police, and there`s also an FBI warrant for him, as well, fugitive to escape prosecution.

During the course of that initial investigation, Mr. Tuck advised me that he had had the tape for four days. Mr. Tuck was interviewed several times during the course of that interview specifically about the timeframe that he`d had it, and Mr. Tuck told me he`d had it for four days. The videotape was returned to the sheriff`s office with me, where it was examined and the horrible assault that we have advised you about was discovered. Immediately, I contacted Mr. Tuck by phone and again reinterviewed him by telephone. Mr. Tuck`s story was the same.

JBRnotforgotten
09-28-2007, 10:23 PM
Tuck told detectives he found the videotape in the desert outside Pahrump more than five months ago, although Boruchowitz said the tape didn't appear to have been exposed to weather or elements.

This is what I read earlier , I don't know now things are changing..
Here is the website I saw it on

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,298016,00.html

One2Snoop
09-28-2007, 10:25 PM
IMO, There seems to be some confusion about the 'connection' between Chester Stiles and the little girl. I was at one website a short time ago and the caption beneath the photo of Stiles referred to him as the little girls father and when I went back just now they had removed that caption and replaced it with something completely different. :confused:

I saw that too! Is it an ex-boyfriend to the mom, an uncle to the little girl? I'm sure that info will come out soon enough.

One2Snoop
09-28-2007, 10:28 PM
Tuck told detectives he found the videotape in the desert outside Pahrump more than five months ago, although Boruchowitz said the tape didn't appear to have been exposed to weather or elements.

This is what I read earlier , I don't know now things are changing..
Here is the website I saw it on

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,298016,00.html

I wonder if DET. DAVID BORUCHOWITZ, was just overwhelmed by all the information and camera's in his face and just stated it wrong from nervousness? I could certainly relate and understand if that was the case.

JBRnotforgotten
09-28-2007, 10:29 PM
Could be too much hounding wanting information from media all at once. Good thinking

odette
09-28-2007, 10:53 PM
I wonder if DET. DAVID BORUCHOWITZ, was just overwhelmed by all the information and camera's in his face and just stated it wrong from nervousness? I could certainly relate and understand if that was the case.

I wonder if the video tape was 'acquired' during one of those burglaries (mentioned at the Press Conference) which were being investigated?.

Here is something which I think you asked about before. Someone may have already replied but here it is anyway.

We allege, based upon what we saw in the video that, this was not the first time that this young lady, this young girl was subject to that type of abuse," DeMeo said in a news conference Friday.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/09/28/national/main3306961.shtml

One2Snoop
09-28-2007, 11:00 PM
I wonder if the video tape was 'acquired' during one of those burglaries (mentioned at the Press Conference) which were being investigated?.

Here is something which I think you asked about before. Someone may have already replied but here it is anyway.

We allege, based upon what we saw in the video that, this was not the first time that this young lady, this young girl was subject to that type of abuse," DeMeo said in a news conference Friday.

Yes thats what I heard/saw/read. Thanks odette! :seeya:

Sorry, I didn't hear about the burglaries. How did I miss that? :confused:

Athena
09-28-2007, 11:05 PM
From one of the links above it appears to have been allegedly found in the desert, kept for 5 months and then turned in. Yea -- he found it? :rolleyes:

"Nevadan Darren Tuck recently gave police the videotape, saying he found it in the desert. Police said the tape was in his possession for at least five months before he handed it over to authorities.

Tuck was arrested on charges of promoting child pornography and possession of child pornography, both felonies, and released without bail pending an appearance November 26 in Pahrump Justice Court, AP reported."

odette
09-28-2007, 11:10 PM
ON NOW

Watch live streaming video of the Nye County sheriff's news conference, which should begin at 7:30 p.m.

http://www.lasvegasnow.com/Global/category.asp?C=5548&nav=menu102_2

One2Snoop
09-28-2007, 11:27 PM
ON NOW

Watch live streaming video of the Nye County sheriff's news conference, which should begin at 7:30 p.m.

http://www.lasvegasnow.com/Global/category.asp?C=5548&nav=menu102_2

Here's the live stream - I couldn't get live stream from the link above. :shrug:
Thanks Odette :seeya:

http://www.lasvegasnow.com/global/video/popup/pop_player.asp?vt1=l&d1=0&ClipId1=mms%3A//a310.l543138425.c5431.g.lm.akamaistream.net/D/310/5431/v0001/reflector%3A38425&LiveURI=mms%3A//a310.l543138425.c5431.g.lm.akamaistream.net/D/310/5431/v0001/reflector%3A38425&h1=Live Streaming Video&at1=News&LiveURITitle=Live%20Streaming%20Video&LaunchPageAdTag=News&playerVersion=1&hostPageUrl=http%3A//www.lasvegasnow.com/Global/story.asp%3FS%3D7141733%26nav%3Dmenu102_2&rnd=87638990

Sharon
09-28-2007, 11:29 PM
I know that if he was going to be taking footage often, he may take the time to put on a ruffle and tuck to hide the box spring....IMHO. I also don't see any hints of a toy anywhere, that bugs me, where there is even the poorest of children you will see a toy or two. The room looks rather un lived in actually. If you look on the entertainment stand, you will see other VHS's and they could very well be his other child porn tapes.

Also, the television appears to be smudged as a child will touch the screen. Look close at it, its dirty and you can almost see the finger smudge area. Could be a family member with a no tell motel rented for his porn making. Just a thought.....

This is hard to talk about....but if the tape was made for sale....it is possible that it was recorded in a make shift `studio` as you would imagine for many types of porn. Not that this helps identify the place or `room`, but it might be more common than we think, this kiddy porn?? So there might be a studio that was used to make this and other tapes as well. Meaning the bed is just a prop. not a real bed?

The guy who handed it in.....five months latter (after 5 months/ 4 days????) well firstly, he has to be the best lead at the moment, and second...I wonder what made him turn it in, if he waited sooo long, what changed??? I find it hard to see him as the good guy here, although no doubt he is telling it that way.

One2Snoop
09-28-2007, 11:29 PM
From the live stream the detective speaking said the mom didn't know this happened. Her daughter was 4 at the time and is now age 7.

One2Snoop
09-28-2007, 11:36 PM
From live stream - :eek: Even those within the prison system are saying they know where Stiles is. You're toast buddy.

One2Snoop
09-28-2007, 11:41 PM
Live stream - the reason they decided to release the older girls pic is because LE, 1) wanted to know who she was 2) they wanted to know how old she was when that video was taken. The media was able to help identify the older girl within 5 hrs.

wind149
09-28-2007, 11:43 PM
It was just reported on my local affiliate that the little girl has been found and safe with family members. But now comes a lot of questions. Where is the girl's parents? Did they ever report her missing?Surely with today's Amber Alerts and coverage on the larger networks, a kid goes missing in Toadsuck Iowa, it is reported on by the big ones. This poor child and that Stiles is a dead ringer. I knew when they used that new catch phrase "a person of interest" they had their man. Used to be called a suspect, but I guess that doesn't sound as official as the new one. I kinda figured a sex offender would be high on the list of people I would look at first and pretty much only. I hate these POS ,babyraping maggots. As for the baby, I hope she can recover from this, and I will be praying for her like I do every dead or missing child.

One2Snoop
09-28-2007, 11:50 PM
From live stream - Stiles is now considered a suspect. Investigators will not respond to anymore questions regarding the family of the little girl.

Talking about life in jail for Stiles and that he'll need to be segregated from others. It's a know protocal in prision that you do not perpetrate sexual crimes against minors - particularly young children.

I say feed him to the wolves, :flamemad: IMO, JMO.

odette
09-28-2007, 11:58 PM
Here's the live stream - I couldn't get live stream from the link above. :shrug:
Thanks Odette :seeya:

http://www.lasvegasnow.com/global/video/popup/pop_player.asp?vt1=l&d1=0&ClipId1=mms%3A//a310.l543138425.c5431.g.lm.akamaistream.net/D/310/5431/v0001/reflector%3A38425&LiveURI=mms%3A//a310.l543138425.c5431.g.lm.akamaistream.net/D/310/5431/v0001/reflector%3A38425&h1=Live Streaming Video&at1=News&LiveURITitle=Live%20Streaming%20Video&LaunchPageAdTag=News&playerVersion=1&hostPageUrl=http%3A//www.lasvegasnow.com/Global/story.asp%3FS%3D7141733%26nav%3Dmenu102_2&rnd=87638990

Works for me :) .. did you click on "Watch live streaming video of the Nye County sheriff's news conference, which is now underway." when you got there?

Sharon
09-29-2007, 12:01 AM
I don't doubt that it's him - if it's not it's his twin - and the guy is a child rapist - twin rapists? :eek:

Yes, just wanted to put in my 2 cents, as a self declared face anaysis nut!!!

The teeth (overbite), neck, hairline, chin/ jaw, lips are exact ringers imo. Even the ears are still promonent enough to be the same. If anything, (cant tell due to photo clarity) it is possible that the ears have been pinned back, either surgically or just with tape. And the perp. has definately put on weight since his other photo. But you can see its the same person, even the height (length of neck) is consistant.

One2Snoop
09-29-2007, 12:02 AM
Works for me :) .. did you click on "Watch live streaming video of the Nye County sheriff's news conference, which is now underway." when you got there?

Probably not :punch: LOL :hat:

Sharon
09-29-2007, 12:07 AM
From the live stream the detective speaking said the mom didn't know this happened. Her daughter was 4 at the time and is now age 7.

I guess either the Mum is lying or she really doesnt know???? The mind boggles in either case.

Is it possible the girl was drugged and has no recall of the rape??? She looked spaced out in the photo, but it could be that Im reading too much into one still shot.

One2Snoop
09-29-2007, 12:10 AM
Yes, just wanted to put in my 2 cents, as a self declared face anaysis nut!!!

The teeth (overbite), neck, hairline, chin/ jaw, lips are exact ringers imo. Even the ears are still promonent enough to be the same. If anything, (cant tell due to photo clarity) it is possible that the ears have been pinned back, either surgically or just with tape. And the perp. has definately put on weight since his other photo. But you can see its the same person, even the height (length of neck) is consistant.

I definitely think its him, only he's 3-4 years older. Alot can change physically in a person in 3-4 years period of time, weight gain etc... IMO.

I posted (above) some info from the live stream that occured at 7:30PM (Nevada Time) Stiles is now officially a suspect.

odette
09-29-2007, 12:13 AM
Probably not :punch: LOL :hat:

I hope that you got to see most of it .. They said that Stiles is connected through a several tier friend connection.

One2Snoop
09-29-2007, 12:17 AM
I guess either the Mum is lying or she really doesnt know???? The mind boggles in either case.

Is it possible the girl was drugged and has no recall of the rape??? She looked spaced out in the photo, but it could be that Im reading too much into one still shot.

I think we should wait until we find out more info. I'm not going to pass judgement. From the LE Live Stream video (press conference), LE said the Mom wasn't aware. That's all we have to go on right now. As a mom, I can accept that and I speak from my own personal experience. (I won't go into that here because its not related and far to personal).

As far as the little girl being drugged - I guess its to late to do hair analysis to test for drugs if this did happen 3-4 years ago, but thats a very good possibility Sharon. I didn't think of that before.

One2Snoop
09-29-2007, 12:22 AM
I hope that you got to see most of it .. They said that Stiles is connected through a several tier friend connection.

Was this the friend who saw the video and reported it? Sorry, I had to take a break (won't go into details) :cool: I didn't see that part. Do tell. Thanks a bunch. :rose:

odette
09-29-2007, 12:34 AM
Was this the friend who saw the video and reported it? Sorry, I had to take a break (won't go into details) :cool: I didn't see that part. Do tell. Thanks a bunch. :rose:

I was watching it on WMP and I forgot to save it until a quarter way through the Media Conference but I will check back for you. I found I missed a few things which were said .. It was mentioned about whether or not the Mom was aware of the fact that they were looking for her daughter. I missed what he said though. It wasn't until the names and photos were released that people started putting two and two together though.

One2Snoop
09-29-2007, 12:43 AM
I was watching it on WMP and I forgot to save it until a quarter way through the Media Conference but I will check back for you. I found I missed a few things which were said .. It was mentioned about whether or not the Mom was aware of the fact that they were looking for her daughter. I missed what he said though. It wasn't until the names and photos were released that people started putting two and two together though.


I'm being fired from my reporter postion as we speak LOL. I thought I remember there was a friend who viewed the video and told Tuck he would report it? I thought this was reported (by news media) early on and thats why Tuck turned the Video in????

I'm certain I got the part about the Mom not knowing her daughter had been abused was correct although I didn't save it. Let me know. Thanks so much for your help. :seeya: :rose:

Sharon
09-29-2007, 12:49 AM
I think we should wait until we find out more info. I'm not going to pass judgement. From the LE Live Stream video (press conference), LE said the Mom wasn't aware. That's all we have to go on right now. As a mom, I can accept that and I speak from my own personal experience. (I won't go into that here because its not related and far to personal).

As far as the little girl being drugged - I guess its to late to do hair analysis to test for drugs if this did happen 3-4 years ago, but thats a very good possibility Sharon. I didn't think of that before.

I agree, no good jumping to conclusions about the family. Serves no purpose. The main thing is that we now know the girl is located and safe. A far cry from what we may have feared in the beginning. Im really glad to hear that!

As per the drugging, unfortunately it is common from what I have heard, re. pedophiles. Not that I am any great expert.

Edited to add, if the Mum didnt know.....this must be a horrendous thing to suddenly find out. I cant imagine how she must be feeling and the shock of what this means.

odette
09-29-2007, 12:55 AM
I'm being fired from my reporter postion as we speak LOL. I thought I remember there was a friend who viewed the video and told Tuck he would report it? I thought this was reported (by news media) early on and thats why Tuck turned the Video in????

I'm certain I got the part about the Mom not knowing her daughter had been abused was correct although I didn't save it. Let me know. Thanks so much for your help. :seeya: :rose:

Oh ... sorry ... I thought you were talking about the Mom. lol .. In the first news conference that part was cleared up. It was said that it had been reported incorrectly that it was because someone else had reported the existence of the tape and that was the reason that Tuck had turned it in but it turned out not to be so. Am I making myself clear? .. Think I need to go to bed .. :tongue:

imo

One2Snoop
09-29-2007, 01:06 AM
I agree, no good jumping to conclusions about the family. Serves no purpose. The main thing is that we now know the girl is located and safe. A far cry from what we may have feared in the beginning. Im really glad to hear that!

As per the drugging, unfortunately it is common from what I have heard, re. pedophiles. Not that I am any great expert.

The drugging part is something I never considered or thought about. I'm glad you brought that up - its certainly something worth considering when we look at pictures of the victims (any victim for that matter).
I realize LE was between a rock and hard place concerning the release of this childs photo - just think where they'd be today if they hadn't done that? I understand wanting to protect a minors innocence, but in times like these I'm thankful LE made the decision they did. :rose:

I can only pray she recovers and lives a normal life - god bless her. :rose:

One2Snoop
09-29-2007, 01:10 AM
Oh ... sorry ... I thought you were talking about the Mom. lol .. In the first news conference that part was cleared up. It was said that it had been reported incorrectly that it was because someone else had reported the existence of the tape and that was the reason that Tuck had turned it in but it turned out not to be so. Am I making myself clear? .. Think I need to go to bed .. :tongue:

imo

LOL - I think so - I need to go to bed too! Good night and thanks for all your help, along with the updates. :seeya: :rose:

One2Snoop
09-29-2007, 01:22 AM
Should all photo's of this young girl be deleted from Crimelibrary? It appears the AP is deleting photos in order to protect her identity....

The Associated Press is no longer identifying or releasing photos of the girl because she is a suspected victim of sexual abuse. It did so earlier in the interest of the girl's safe recovery.

I think its probably a good idea to delete photo's although the media and Crimelibrary should keep in mind there are those who've "saved as" the photo's and will use them to their advantage. We should also keep in mind when doing a search, her photo's will most likely end up in cache. I guess thats up to the administrator here to decide whether or not to delete the photo's of this victim.


Freshwater, what do you think?

odette
09-29-2007, 01:29 AM
LOL - I think so - I need to go to bed too! Good night and thanks for all your help, along with the updates. :seeya: :rose:

LOL ... What I meant to say was .... He apparently handed over the tape to LE of his own volition.

imo :seeya:

Jo_Momma_82
09-29-2007, 03:41 AM
I still don't understand how the mother couldn't have noticed.... I understand the possibility of not recognizing the signs of molestation but, RAPE.... I'm just don't know about the mothers story of not noticing anything. If there was no obvious bleeding when the girl came home or was around her mom then (I'm so sorry to be graphic) , what about noticable trauma ? She was still at the age that the mother would have been bathing her.... and I know theres the possibility that the girl was warned not to tell the mother about anything so, I understand somewhat if the girl never complained of pain or irritation but, I still wonder if the girl ever did complain to her mother about these things.

I've never been in this situation so, I don't know how conspicuous or inconspicuous these things can be. And I'm not trying to condemn the mother but, I do hope that their making absolute sure that little Madison is safe. This little girl really needs safety and security and I pray that she gets counseling and can heal from this horrendous assault.

sallynuts
09-29-2007, 07:02 AM
Wow...:flamemad: i've just been reading this for the past hour..... (((((sigh)))))

I couldn't get on to some of the links... so i kept reading,,, and they found her..:) Yet,. there are lots of questions,, i agree with all of you about that..

Lets all hope they catch this #@*#@#$#$%%... soon... and he gets his,..... i'm exhausted.. well done to so many of you that posted links, and found out information for us to read... you are all wonderful people..

I don't think i will sleep tonight.. that little girls face will haunt me, and his ( i can't bring myself to use his name) will give me nightmares...


'Vodka Doesn't Freeze' a novel by Leah Giarratano....

sallypicanally
09-29-2007, 09:03 AM
[QUOTE=Jo_Momma_82;9002486]I still don't understand how the mother couldn't have noticed.... I understand the possibility of not recognizing the signs of molestation but, RAPE.... I'm just don't know about the mothers story of not noticing anything.

I so agree with you Jo_Momma_82. I hope that an examination will be done on this child to see what damage has been done to her. What about any sexual diseases? Will this child be able to bear children as she gets older?
I think mom must of noticed something but maybe doesn't know the full effect. Didn't LE think that this child must of been used to the abuse because she showed no reaction? I'm so confused! I'm also a Newbie here.

Devotion
09-29-2007, 09:21 AM
[QUOTE=Jo_Momma_82;9002486]
I still don't understand how the mother couldn't have noticed.... I understand the possibility of not recognizing the signs of molestation but, RAPE....

I'm just don't know about the mothers story of not noticing anything.

I so agree with you Jo_Momma_82. I hope that an examination will be done on this child to see what damage has been done to her. What about any sexual diseases? Will this child be able to bear children as she gets older?
I think mom must of noticed something but maybe doesn't know the full effect.
Didn't LE think that this child must of been used to the abuse because she showed no reaction? I'm so confused! I'm also a Newbie here.

:( I AGREE...there are many questions that need an answer...

The first one I have is WHY was a 30+yr. old guy left alone with this little girl so much and why just him ALONE with this child?

WHY did the mother not investigate why the girl possibly cried from BURNING from the fresh trama/being torn when she was exposed to the bath water?
Please don't tell me, the mom was allowing this man to bath the girl,too.

How many months or years was this child EXPOSED to this dirt-bag ????

With all the pictures of this child being shown, why did it take this woman so long to come forward, or did she, was it someone else that told the LE?
IMO this mother has alot of explaining to do.....:shrug: ..jmo

JBRnotforgotten
09-29-2007, 09:26 AM
I agree that there is some kind of covering up going on. You would think the solomness look of this child would tell you something is not right unless she had been exposed to this her whole life.

sallypicanally
09-29-2007, 09:42 AM
I believe LE said that the perp was a friend of a family friend. So I get that he was only an aquaintance. I had also seen that a friend had called the child's mom to tell her that her child was posted on Tv. It was reported that mom did not have a Tv. I will have to search for the links.

Mishell1383
09-29-2007, 09:49 AM
[quote=sallypicanally;9002593]

:( I AGREE...there are many questions that need an answer...

The first one I have is WHY was a 30+yr. old guy left alone with this little girl so much and why just him ALONE with this child?

WHY did the mother not investigate why the girl possibly cried from BURNING from the fresh trama/being torn when she was exposed to the bath water?
Please don't tell me, the mom was allowing this man to bath the girl,too.

How many months or years was this child EXPOSED to this dirt-bag ????

With all the pictures of this child being shown, why did it take this woman so long to come forward, or did she, was it someone else that told the LE?
IMO this mother has alot of explaining to do.....:shrug: ..jmo
AND! Didn't it say he was a convicted sex offender? Wouldn't she have known? Would you leave your child in the "entrusted care" of a convicted sex offender!? I THINK NOT!

Devotion
09-29-2007, 10:13 AM
[quote=Devotion;9002602]

AND! Didn't it say he was a convicted sex offender?
Wouldn't she have known?
Would you leave your child in the "entrusted care" of a convicted sex offender!? I THINK NOT!

:cuss: YES, a convicted sex offender....
When arrested, Why do the Judges release these maggots back out on society to rape and molest / ruin the life of another innocent child?

It is known these sick animals will not change, so why are they let out on bail or prison?
The Law wouldn't allow a rabid dog to run loose among children.....so why put convicted sex offenders back out in society?
IMO we need to demand some Judges and Laws need to be changed....jmo

Portabella
09-29-2007, 10:42 AM
Welcome Sally...

I agree the mother's story will have to be checked out, but I don't believe the police would have left her in a bad situatiion last night. I think that what ever the story was, it was believable and they felt the child was healthy and safe. I am very happy to hear that.....

I agree we needs stronger laws to protect our children, not only in sexual abuse cases but in all cases, somehow we are not holding perp's as accountable when the crimes are against kids as we do when the crimes are against adults. I believe it should be the opposite, I believe crimes against children and the elderly should be held even more accountable as they are the weaker and the innocent. I also believe we need to enhance the laws against animal abuse. I am always for the weak/underdog.

I think we should respect this little girls privacy and take her photo down now, the police have repeatedly requested that anyone that has posted her photo, take it down now and let her have peace, so please take it down for Madison's sake. I went and undid her photo from everywhere I posted it already, however I am going to continue to put the POS photo up, as his assx needs found. Sadly, there are hundreds of Chester Stiles out there, abusing children as I type, we need to be more diligent and not afraid to call police if we see something, if we are wrong, they will sort it out. JMHO

lorettalockhorn
09-29-2007, 11:38 AM
Not just the change in personality, but wouldn't there be obvious signs of abuse? Bleeding? Bruising? Contusions? Did this go unreported? I tentatively have this mother down for failure to protect, child endangerment and gross negligence, and am concerned that there is much more to this story.

Godspeed Madison.

odette
09-29-2007, 12:26 PM
With all the pictures of this child being shown, why did it take this woman so long to come forward, or did she, was it someone else that told the LE?
IMO this mother has alot of explaining to do.....:shrug: ..jmo

Hope this helps Devotion.

"The mother was not aware of anything that went on with this young girl," he said.

Widespread media accounts of the case led someone to call the girl's mother, who contacted police, authorities said.

"Somebody contacted her and said, 'Hey your daughter's on TV,'" Boruchowitz said. "She recognized her daughter."

http://www.journalgazette.net/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070929/APA/709290520&template=apart

mum88
09-29-2007, 02:40 PM
I tried to get on here last night but had to wait for my account to be activated. Finally happen. Here is some info I had come up with,,,,,,,late I know, but thought I would post it anyways.


Texas Birth Index, 1903-1997
about Devon Michael Iwanicki
Name: Devon Michael Iwanicki
Date of Birth: 11 Apr 1991
Gender: Male
Birth County: Bell
Father's name: Chester Arthur Stiles
Mother's name: Claudia Sylvia Iwanicki
Roll Number: 1991_0010




STILES, CHESTER ARTHUR (Age 37)
Available LAS VEGAS, NV
PACT, FL
DARROUZETT, TX
PANAMA CITY, FL
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2. STILES, CHESTER
Available(1) Available LAS VEGAS, NV
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3. STILES, CHESTERARTHUR

Possible Employment / Business Associations:

DIAMOND WATER TECHNOLOGIES Lighting Maintenance Services



IWANICKI, CLAUDIA SYLVIA (Age 38)

Associated names:

IWANCKI, CLAUDIA S
IWANICKI, C
Available(4) Available HENDERSON, NV
KILLEEN, TX
LAS VEGAS, NV
EL PASO, TX
ODESSA, TX
COLUMBUS, OH Possible Relatives:

IWANICKI, JOLANDA G (Age 67)
IWANICKI, EDMOND VINCENT (Age 61)
IWANICKI, IWANICKI EDMUND

Possible Roommates / Associates:

FOWLER, BRUCE LYNN (Age 54)
COLEMAN, KEVIN D (Age 32)
FOWLER, PATRICIA ANN (Age 54)
COLEMAN, JENNIFER MARIE (Age 32)
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2. IWANICKI, CLAUDIA SYLVIA (Age 38)
Available LAS VEGAS, NV
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3. IWANICKI, CLAUDIA (Age 38)
Available HOUSTON, TX

mum88
09-29-2007, 03:10 PM
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One2Snoop
09-29-2007, 03:37 PM
Sheriff DeMeo said, "The mother was not aware of anything that went on with this young girl."

Detective Dave Boruchowitz said both the girl and mother cried as they talked. He says the sexual assault happened in Las Vegas.

"In fact, the mother actually recognized the furniture, recognized the TV," Sheriff DeMeo continued.

Detective Boruchowitz says the man on the tape is Chester Stiles and that he was a family friend.

Detectives also pinpointed the tape was made in 2003 when the victim was just three years old. Boruchowitz says she does not show any signs of a girl who has been sexually abused

Wow! The mom recognized the furniture! I think its to soon to tell if the girl will show any signs of sexual assault granted she was aware of what was being done to her. (she could've been drugged like mentioned before).

mum88
09-29-2007, 04:06 PM
Civil, Family & Probate Case Records Search Results
Logout Search Menu New Civil Search Search Criteria: stiles, chester Location : Family Help


Case Number Style Filed/Location Type/Status
00T042545 Claudia Iwanicki vs Chester Stiles 05/11/2000
Department ZZ TPO - Domestic Violence
Closed
96D205203 Claudia Iwanicki vs Chester Stiles 09/12/1996
Department B Child Custody Complaint
Closed
98T026182 Claudia Iwanicki vs Chester Stiles 01/09/1998
Department ZZ TPO - Domestic Violence
Closed
98T028421 Claudia Iwanicki vs Chester Stiles 05/08/1998
Department ZZ TPO - Domestic Violence
Closed






Register Of ActionsCase No. 96D205203 Claudia Iwanicki vs Chester Stiles §
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Case Type: Child Custody Complaint
Date Filed: 09/12/1996
Location: Department B
Conversion Case Number: D205203


Party Information Lead Attorneys
Conversion Extended Connection Type Financial Conversion 96D205203
Removed: 03/23/2007
Converted From Blackstone


Defendant Stiles, Chester


Plaintiff Iwanicki, Claudia
Pro Se
Retained

Subject Minor Iwanicki, Devon M

Events & Orders of the Court DISPOSITIONS
08/03/1998
1:28 PM Judgment (Judicial Officer: Sanchez, Gloria S)

Converted Disposition:
Description : JUDGMENT ON ARREARAGES
Debtor : Stiles, Chester
Creditor : Iwanicki, Claudia
Amount Awarded : $3910.00
Attorney Fees : $0.00
Costs : $0.00
Interest Amount : $0.00
Total : $3910.00





OTHER EVENTS AND HEARINGS
09/12/1996 Complaint
09/13/1996 Summons
10/10/1996 Default
10/10/1996 Hearing
10/23/1996 Hearing (6:00 PM) (Judicial Officer Sanchez, Gloria S) Parties Present

Result: Granted
11/12/1996 Order
05/20/1998 Affidavit
05/20/1998 Motion
05/20/1998 Request
06/02/1998 Affidavit
06/10/1998 Converted from Blackstone
06/10/1998 Motion (2:00 PM) (Judicial Officer Sanchez, Gloria S) Parties Present

Result: Continuance Granted
06/22/1998 Motion (10:00 AM) (Judicial Officer Sanchez, Gloria S) Parties Present

Result: Granted
08/03/1998 Judgment
08/03/1998 Order
Financial Information Conversion Extended Connection Type Financial Conversion 96D205203
Total Financial Assessment 128.00
Total Payments and Credits 128.00
Balance Due as of 09/29/2007 0.00

09/12/1996 Transaction Assessment 128.00
09/12/1996 Conversion Payment Receipt # 00107343 Claudia Iwanicki (126.00)
06/30/1998 Conversion Payment Receipt # 00171846 Legal Aid Alternative (2.00)

lorettalockhorn
09-29-2007, 04:16 PM
I dogpiled Devon Michael Iwanicki and interestingly got a page with likely adult content warning.

Devotion
09-29-2007, 05:37 PM
Wow! The mom recognized the furniture!

I think its to soon to tell if the girl will show any signs of sexual assault granted she was aware of what was being done to her. (she could've been drugged like mentioned before).

:read: I Agree...
WHY would Detective Boruchowitz say the child does not show any signs of being sexually abused?

Of course the child is talking and walking, that doesn't mean she's O.K. psychologically.
How long did he spend with this child to determine she showed NO signs of abuse?
IMO it will take several Doctors to determine the injuries to this childs body and mind..

Let's hope the detective isn't taking the mothers word for it....as she didn't notice when her beautiful 3 yr. old daughter was being raped and abused..by a friend of a friend...jmo

bbornfree
09-29-2007, 06:31 PM
:read: I Agree...
WHY would Detective Boruchowitz say the child does not show any signs of being sexually abused?

Of course the child is talking and walking, that doesn't mean she's O.K. psychologically.
How long did he spend with this child to determine she showed NO signs of abuse?
IMO it will take several Doctors to determine the injuries to this childs body and mind..

Let's hope the detective isn't taking the mothers word for it....as she didn't notice when her beautiful 3 yr. old daughter was being raped and abused..by a friend of a friend...jmo

I've just been sick for days about this case. I have a five year old daughter, and I guess watching NG and that child's face, I think it will haunt me for a while, it just hurts my heart to think of what that child endured.

I too believe that I would know if my daughter had been raped. I'm very protective of her and I can tell by her facial expressions what's going on with her, not to mention the physical symptoms that had to be present.

I don't think detectives are going to take the mother's word for this, I just can't believe they would leave any stone unturned.

sallypicanally
09-29-2007, 08:26 PM
Do we know where Madison was assaulted and taped? Was it @ her mom's or her mother's friend?

docwho3
09-30-2007, 06:40 AM
I too am suspicious about whether the mother knew of this abuse and for an as yet unnamed reason which partly has to do with a posted clue. However I should point out that I did find a much much older chester stiles listed on the internet who had been in the service many years ago so we can't assume all messages left for stiles are looking for the perp instead of the much older older guy.

I sort of wonder if the child had been rented out to others in the past which would also account for the lack of response spoken of by those who saw the tape. I suppose in time we will know the answers to those and other questions and for now we need to see the main suspect and his sidekick rounded up by L.E.

wind149
09-30-2007, 02:24 PM
I do not blame the Sheriff for releasing the tape of the little girl, he honesty thought this poor angel was in jeopardy and being raped as he spoke. As far as re-victimizing her, it was a risk he took, but who knew for sure like he said ,when was the tape made? Where was it made? Who is the POS raping her?? It was a risky move and thank God the child is alive. As for the mother, I have some big questions there. She never saw her child naked to see for sure had to be injuries to her vaginal area, bloody underwear? The poor child never said a word as the poor thing at 3 had no clue other than it hurt what was happening to her .As for the Vegas police, why in hell did they let Tuck walk out the door? He failed a polygraph test, right there should have been enough to hold him as they know he was lying through his teeth about finding the video in the desert and it appears he was trying to use it for leverage to bargain with current burglary charges, what piece of dog crap! He probably has had this tape for some time and instead of being a decent human being and turning it in months ago, he decided to sit on it, till he needed for his own sorry ass gain. When they capture him, he needs to go right to gen pop and as for Stires, that maggot puke, he should be castrated completely with a dull kitchen knife and then thrown into gen pop, where he will see how much fun it is to be raped. Perfect justice for both of these scumbags. So let's hope they catch them and quick!

WarmNCozy
09-30-2007, 04:15 PM
I too am suspicious about whether the mother knew of this abuse and for an as yet unnamed reason which partly has to do with a posted clue. However I should point out that I did find a much much older chester stiles listed on the internet who had been in the service many years ago so we can't assume all messages left for stiles are looking for the perp instead of the much older older guy.

I sort of wonder if the child had been rented out to others in the past which would also account for the lack of response spoken of by those who saw the tape. I suppose in time we will know the answers to those and other questions and for now we need to see the main suspect and his sidekick rounded up by L.E.

I agree with you! How does a child come home after this video without any signs of abuse, i.e., bleeding, emotional trauma -- 3 years old!!! 3 year old children only know Disney, Santa and the Easter Bunny!

And where was the Mother? Why did "others" report who the child was NOW?

Lots of questions, answers will follow!

mwitzah
09-30-2007, 06:17 PM
This case puzzles me so much.

If the mother truly didn't know about her daughter's sexual assault by Stiles, then she must not have been in full custody of the child following the little girl's first sexual assault. While she appears to have learned to deal with this abuse from her flat and lifeless expression, there was a point when she was first assaulted that she must have exhibited physical and emotional signs & symptoms. What I want to know is, where was the mom at that point of her life? If she truly was unaware, then it must be either by forced ignorance or failure to protect the child by allowing her in the situation in the first place. I cannot fathom how she would truly be innocent in this case, because there's no other way to explain Stiles having complete and unfettered access to the girl, and the girl's demonstrated ability to cope with the atrocious abuse.

I also want to know how the video was recorded, and whether the images were absolutely still or whether there was movement ( i.e., could Chester have put up the camera to record it while alone with the girl, or was someone else there holding the camera while taping?)

Mr. Tuck appears the same general age and same general quality of character as Mr. Stiles - I'm starting to truly question his involvement in this case. No one is disputing he held onto the tape for 5 months, and that fact alone tells you something flat out about this guy's character. If he showed it to others, as is alleged, still without reporting it, one would assume it's because he found it in some way of value (entertaining, or what have you). Put that with the fact that how he obtained the tape in the first place is in question, and you have someone who appears to be involved in the creation of the tape in some way.

Finally, I want to know what this little girl appears to know or remember about the incident. By all accounts she appears outwardly happy and looks like a normal 7 year old (which I believe is what the Det. intended by his comments, and not that she is normal) and I read that the girl appeared unaware of the assault just like her mom. I read at one point, though, that both the mother and the daughter were crying while being questioned. If that account were true, then why was the daughter crying? If completely unaware, I can't imagine any professional TELLING the girl, this early in the game and not in conjunction with therapy, that she was sexually assaulted. I would presume the crying was based on her recollection - which makes you ponder. While I know this is truly traumatic and might therefor be a surviving memory despite her youngness as recorded in the tape, most people don't remember events from 3 years old. Makes me guess that this went on for a longer period of time, thereby calling into question the mom's lack of knowledge. Again, if she didn't participate I find it hard to say she didn't know. At best, this woman saw signs yet intentionally ignored them in an extreme case of failing to protect her daughter.

My Two Cents.

This case is eating me apart, and I just feel better posting my thoughts here!

Witzah

wind149
09-30-2007, 06:58 PM
One scumbag down, one to go! The hate I feel for both of these POS's and I just saw my precious god-children, they stopped over for a visit and I swear to all of you now, if someone were to ever harm them, there would not be a trial, and this a promise. This scuz knew he had to turn himself in, he was backed into a corner and what really pisses me off, is this puke kept this tape and had the balls to show it to others and not one of them even bothered to pick up a phone, probably babyrapers themselves. So I feel the others should go down with him and the other scumbag. I am so sick and tired of these scumbags getting walks time and time again for harming children, and yet, a guy who is down on his luck steals an apple from a 7-11 and he gets 60 days in the slammer for an apple that would cost, what, $1? Instead of pleading him out they release scum who molested children, out, unsupervised except for the weekly yahoo to PO who could care less about this POS, but will want to see the apple man the minute is he out on probation and instead of trying to help the man get on his feet, they expect him to show up to sign in and that is the only thing they do for him. If this sounds weird, it really happened. They clog up the courts with these crap beefs, and let babyrapers right out on the street. Look at Couey, Duncan, the Edenfield's in GA, you all know about those scumbags don't you? That is the one thing on the other board everyone agreed with me on. In March, a bunch of low-life, white trash, card carrying members of the KKK kidnapped six year old Christopher Barrios right out of his yard. The son and father repeatedly raped, orally raped ,and choked to death this little innocent boy, I cry every time I post about this! The mother of this evil spawn, actually masturbated while her men folk were brutalizing that poor child. When they were done with him, they threw him in a garbage bag and threw him in a field. How they caught these scumbags, is Sonny Boy was already a SO and two days prior ,TWO DAYS, he had been given probation once again, for living near a school, but get this, they move to the trailer park where they all lived, full of kids, and Sonny used to watch the kids get off the bus and I think spied CB and decided to grab him. We tossed around the race issue as CB was bi-racial and since this band of white trash was racist ,we think he was chosen as they think he is not worth anything because the Mama had the balls to call him a "zebra"" I heard this, threw things across the room, good thing I live in the middle of nowhere! They will get the DP, but we are years away before these dirtbags ever walk the mile .And what galls me to my last nerve, is they of course are in PC for THEIR SAFETY!!! I say, round up some of the meanest, baddest brothers you can find, and have a memory lapse as to what cells you just opened. I could not work in that jail, as I would take the heat and let the brothers in there. There would not be anything left of them to blot up with a tissue!! Same goes for Couey and Duncan and Smith, and now these scumbags. Galls me they have to be protected like that. Now ya gotta know Tuck knows the other MF!! I am feeling they will get him and he better hope the law gets him first instead of the Bikers Against Child Abuse Great bunch of fellows, they helped me with a situation I will post here someday. WWW. Bikers Against Child Abuse.com. What galled me to is Nancy Grace. She is usually like a pitbull when it comes to raped and murdered children and the scumbags who are responsible, but about that time Anna Nicole Smith and her sorry ass life was more important that the death of a biracial child in a trailer park. She covered all of about six minutes of this and without missing a beat, lapsed right back into the death of the no-talent, bimbo and her drug overdose death. God, I was sick to death of it by 6 p.m. the first day. I wrote her a letter and told her how displeased I was, that she was not on this case, but ratings, ratings, ratings. So we have kept his memory alive and he will not be forgotten by me ever. :rose: For Christopher and :rose: this little angel

Devotion
10-01-2007, 09:43 AM
This case puzzles me so much.

If the mother truly didn't know about her daughter's sexual assault by Stiles, then she must not have been in full custody of the child following the little girl's first sexual assault.

While she appears to have learned to deal with this abuse from her flat and lifeless expression,
there was a point when she was first assaulted that she must have exhibited physical and emotional signs & symptoms.

What I want to know is, where was the mom at that point of her life?

If she truly was unaware, then it must be either by forced ignorance or failure to protect the child by allowing her in the situation in the first place.

I cannot fathom how she would truly be innocent in this case,

because there's no other way to explain Stiles having complete and unfettered access to the girl,
and the girl's demonstrated ability to cope with the atrocious abuse.

I also want to know how the video was recorded, and whether the images were absolutely still or whether there was movement ( i.e., could Chester have put up the camera to record it while alone with the girl, or was someone else there holding the camera while taping?)

Mr. Tuck appears the same general age and same general quality of character as Mr. Stiles -
I'm starting to truly question his involvement in this case. No one is disputing he held onto the tape for 5 months, and that fact alone tells you something flat out about this guy's character. If he showed it to others, as is alleged, still without reporting it, one would assume it's because he found it in some way of value (entertaining, or what have you). Put that with the fact that how he obtained the tape in the first place is in question, and you have someone who appears to be involved in the creation of the tape in some way.

Finally, I want to know what this little girl appears to know or remember about the incident.
By all accounts she appears outwardly happy and looks like a normal 7 year old (which I believe is what the Det. intended by his comments, and not that she is normal) and I read that the girl appeared unaware of the assault just like her mom.
I read at one point, though, that both the mother and the daughter were crying while being questioned.

If that account were true, then why was the daughter crying?
If completely unaware, I can't imagine any professional TELLING the girl, this early in the game and not in conjunction with therapy, that she was sexually assaulted.
I would presume the crying was based on her recollection - which makes you ponder. While I know this is truly traumatic and might therefor be a surviving memory despite her youngness as recorded in the tape, most people don't remember events from 3 years old.

Makes me guess that this went on for a longer period of time, thereby calling into question the mom's lack of knowledge.

Again, if she didn't participate I find it hard to say she didn't know.

At best, this woman saw signs yet intentionally ignored them in an extreme case of failing to protect her daughter.

My Two Cents.

This case is eating me apart, and I just feel better posting my thoughts here!

Witzah

:shrug: EXCELLENT QUESTIONS!
Other questions are,
Where was the child left when the mom worked or went out on a date or with friends?
Who was babysitting the 3 yr. old child?
Was the mom living with a man/ or dating a guy that was friends with this dirt bag?
WHY was a 3 yr. old girl left alone with a 37 yr.old friend of a friend?
How many times, hours, days, over night or for the weekends?
How old was the mother?
Did the mother have any drug problems?

I see many reasons the mother would have been crying when the Detective confronted her!....JMO

Angie1960
10-01-2007, 12:56 PM
So now she's been found THANK GOD! Her Mother says they don't know anything about the rape - why did she look like this was routine for her? Then I saw on the news - the woman who said the family knew Stiles through her and then said OMG "those are my sheets - they look like my sheets" then she takes it back and says "or my friend's sheets"

I glad she's been found and they say she's a normal happy 7 year old child. I pray that's the case and she can go on with her life and get whatever help she needs to deal with the abuse, and now the media attention. I hope they leave her alone and let the process take place quietly for her sake.

lorettalockhorn
10-01-2007, 01:10 PM
I just cannot help but think that perhaps the mother was on some sort of toot or bender during the time that Madison was being abused and maybe that would account for her not noticing any physical signs of abuse. Thank God that the child didn't suffer fatal internal injuries. I would hope by now that she has undergone a thorough physical exam.

Re: the mother and daughter crying. I'd cry too if I was outed as being negligent like this woman was, and the reason that the girl was in tears was could simply be the stress of seeing her mother upset.

I do not think for a single minute that investigators would have told the child what had happened to her, and any information that they get from her about the abuse will not be from leading questions or in any way suggesting what may or may not have happened. She will certainly be interviewed by qualified examiners skilled in methods of obtaining information that is admissable in court.

Angie1960
10-01-2007, 01:54 PM
Originally Posted by fsbiii
April 2003?

http://www.gisearch.com/lostfound/ldM.16.0.11557/

Title: Chester (Chet) StilesPosted by: Angela Fehringer (angel_hot692000)Date Posted: 2003-04-11 07:18:31Message: I am looking for an old friend of mine. His name is Chester Stiles. He would be in his 30's. Last I heard he had last been stationed somewhere in Okinawa. Anyone with any info please email me at angel_hot692000@yahoo.com Thank you, Angela Fries


Here it is ...

I found this on Fiday and posted it - He's the same guy but this email is no longer good - I sent her an email on Friday and it came back to me - definately was in the military at some point.

mwitzah
10-01-2007, 02:50 PM
IRe: the mother and daughter crying. I'd cry too if I was outed as being negligent like this woman was, and the reason that the girl was in tears was could simply be the stress of seeing her mother upset.

I do not think for a single minute that investigators would have told the child what had happened to her, and any information that they get from her about the abuse will not be from leading questions or in any way suggesting what may or may not have happened. She will certainly be interviewed by qualified examiners skilled in methods of obtaining information that is admissable in court.


I totally agree that the investigators didn't suggest the abuse to the girl, which was my point: what would make her cry then, but not for the recollection herself? While it is a possibility that she was crying because the mother was upset, it seems more likely to me that it would be from her own memories. In that case, it makes the mom's "not knowing" even less likely.

What do you think about that friend, either? Who claims on TV, "oh my God, I know those sheets!" Sounds to me like she's trying to use this national attention to her own benefit - now she's involved & media outlets will contact her. :no:

She has kids of her own, for goodness sakes. She should be concerned about whether Chester touched them or did anything to them, not whether the sheets are hers or whether the molesting happened in her own bed (which I saw quoted in an article this morning). Why doesn't she worry about her own kids, given the fact that her long standing boyfriend has just been outed as a pedophile to the world? And for that matter, how about why she let this guy in her home in the first place, when she has kids of her own and he already is a registered sex offender? If involved with him for 10 years as she indicated, then she knew of his sex offender status and the fact that he had touched a six year old inappropriately and repeatedly and a warrant was out for him based on that.

Hmmm . . . that makes me question just how many other kids he's already done this to?

While that is an obvious question, I just realized now that he was already a registered sex offender and the case with the 6 year old girl had not yet been concluded (meaning that's not the offense that made him register, as you aren't a registered sex offender until sentenced in a sex abuse case).

So many things!! :shrug:

I really want to know more about this case - make sure the girl IS alright. I want to know about the mother, too, to ease my conscience about the little girl TODAY. Now that I'm a mom, I can't erase these awful facts from my mind!!

One2Snoop
10-01-2007, 03:01 PM
This is certainly something to take note of. Printed in the latest update..

Ex-girlfriend tells how child rape suspect met girl

Allen said Stiles stopped by her house last week for a friendly visit before his name was linked to the videotape. She said his appearance had changed. She said his hair was longer and he had put on weight.

mwitzah
10-01-2007, 03:30 PM
Okay, that does it.

I was previously skeptical about the ex-girlfriend given the overall situation, but now am definitely concerned about her involvement given the recent article posted.

"I know of one other time that he (Stiles) was involved with something like that, and it was actually a friend of my mother's child," said Allen. "At that point in time, I didn't know whether to believe my mother or what was happening, but according to my mother it was a false report made that he was left alone with the child."

Allen says he never liked Stiles, but refrained from acting on his feelings out of respect for his mother. He says Stiles and his mother have been dating for the past 10 years.

"I took to what she said to me that it was false and it never happened and that he was never left alone with the kids. However at the time they were together over at the house watching the children and according to my mother, they took a nap, and that's when it happened to another child. As far as it goes with this little girl, I believe something similar may have happened," said Allen. ....."

Am I getting the Allen women confused? Because this sounds to me like the ex not only had reason to know of other allegations, but in fact did have knowledge! She was an enabler by believing his junk & continuing to put her own kids at risk by calling the allegations false . . .

And now she's definitely using this national attention to her advantage by expressing guilt and remorse??

Also Monday, Stiles' former girlfriend told CNN she believes she put him in contact with the girl.

Tina Allen said she is "disgusted" and "mortified" at her role in bringing them together. .....

Excerpt: Stiles' former girlfriend said she is stunned by the allegations.

Allen said she and Stiles had been in an on-again, off-again relationship for 10 years and that he was good with her children.

"He said he'd been in the Navy and, you know, I was looking for a strong guy to represent to my sons what I thought they needed to be," Allen said.

Allen took Stiles to a crowded apartment where her son and daughter lived. Also living in the apartment were a family friend and her 3-year-old daughter, who allegedly was victimized by Stiles.

"I'm disgusted. I'm ashamed, embarrassed, mortified," Allen said. "I regret every, every step I ever took; I feel bad for the baby."

I'm disgusted!

She claims on TV that she recognizes the sheets -

She claims that the sex assault may have happened in her house -

Her son claims that he heard of a prior sexual assault of Stiles with one of his mom's friends' daughters -

She now claims she feels awful over subjecting her friend's daughter to this -

Something about all this sound fishy to anyone else???

:mad:

Angie1960
10-01-2007, 03:46 PM
Very suspicous - and remember this act was videotaped - How do we know the previous act was not taped and sold (this tape was either shared or sold) Was she holding the camera? She knows this will be linked to her - Oh but she is SOOO Surprised... Yes FISHY!!!!

Portabella
10-01-2007, 09:01 PM
Can someone please put on here the tip line e mail again, I hope its still operational, would like to write them real quick with something....I feel ill and don't want to go back and read, could someone post it for me....Thanks....:rose:

Mishell1383
10-01-2007, 09:08 PM
Can someone please put on here the tip line e mail again, I hope its still operational, would like to write them real quick with something....I feel ill and don't want to go back and read, could someone post it for me....Thanks....:rose:
Anyone with information on either the girl or the man is asked to call the Nye County Sheriff's Office at 775-751-7000.

http://www.lasvegasnow.com/Global/st...il&Format=HTML

Portabella, I think this is what you were looking for.
:rose:
Email tips to:
findchild@nyesheriff.net
http://www.nyecountysheriff.net/

Angie1960
10-01-2007, 09:08 PM
Can someone please put on here the tip line e mail again, I hope its still operational, would like to write them real quick with something....I feel ill and don't want to go back and read, could someone post it for me....Thanks....:rose:



findchild@nyesheriff.net

odette
10-01-2007, 09:18 PM
Official Website of the Nye County Sheriff's Office

Thank you for your assistance.The child victim of abuse that was video taped by suspect Chester Arthur Stiles, is safe.

We are searching for Chester Arthur Stiles, age 37 who photo's and physical descriptors can be viewed at these links: If location known contact Local Police Immediately..... There are Warrants for arrest...

http://nyecountysheriff.net/

wind149
10-01-2007, 09:45 PM
Wow! A lot of people here with the same questions I have. I am not a parent but I have god-children and I think I would have known if one of them had been sexually abused and here is this mother saying now she had no clue? You don't bathe your baby? You can't tell me this child did not suffer trauma down there from being raped by an adult! It sounds to me this Mama here was leaving her child with every loser out there with no regard and probably it will come out she is a junkie or a welfare queen more interested in the check than the child. I mean, come on, I am not buying the fact she did not know her child was abused and the picture of the girl was on every network and paper in the country and it is a parent of a friend of the girls that comes forward and tells the law she knows who she is???? I have a bad feeling about this and wonder also if this tape is still in circulation on the internet as the dirtbag had the tape for awhile and it galls me to my last nerve he hung onto it for months and decides to use it as a bargaining tool to beat some charges, speaks for this POS and where he ought to be tonight, in gen pop, quivering with fear. As for Stiles, they will get him. He could stand out in a crowd. And what was up with the loser girlfriend? You did not know he is a convicted sex offender? I swear some of these loser broads find true love on a registry! Oh, I know he molested other kids, but he just loves my kids, and wouldn't harm a hair on their head. Yeah right! A woman thought that in Vt too and that loser used to let "Uncle Mark" actually sleep in her daughter's bed and he molested that girl for six years and Judge Cashman who I hate and I know him, decides to let him walk with a sixty day sentence so he can get that so-called treatment as VT rated him "LOW RISK"!! You so much as stick your hand down a dress, you are not LOW RISK!!! You are a bona fide child predator!! And the only reason Cashman rescinded the 60 days is his own ass was on the line and he gave dirtbag 3-10 years grudgingly, I thought. He will come out and do it again. This maggot here has a lengthy record, big surprise there. And as for girlfriend who I wanted to slap right off my TV screen, CPS needs to investigate her. Wanna bet he tried something with her kids too? These pigs know how to put fear in kids. The it's our little secret to if you tell someone I will kill you and your Mama. I wonder what he did to make "Maddison" not tell anyone and Mama there needs a second look at too. I am not buying the fact that he was able to rape her and there was no trauma and her hymen surely was broken. This just makes me so sick and so mad at the system. People nowadays have kids and don't even care who is watching them, they leave them in hot cars to die because their mind is on their job, they kill them, they willingly invite pedophiles into their lives thinking well we are friends, he won't hurt my kid. Lots of questions here folks and I hope the law gets to the bottom of this whole fishy tale from Mama.

BpNinaP
10-02-2007, 03:22 AM
:patriot: My brother was a SEAL and just checked the roster. Only one STILES listed and it's not Chester. However, a Google search for "Chester Stiles" will bring up a woman who has posted to a military locator website looking for a man by that name previously stationed at Camp Lejeune (USMC). There are so many wannabe SEALs out there - I think the media is trying to make him out to be "bad" when he's nothing more than a pathetic coward.:chicken:

hoglover
10-02-2007, 04:16 PM
Could someone please post the links to the interview with the girlfriend? I missed that one I think.

This has absolutely made me sick to my stomach. I have a 3 yr old daughter and I guarantee you I would know if she had been abused. I still bathe her and dress her. She is still a baby. That child wouldn't have been able to do all this herself. The mother would have to have noticed. My child lets me know about the smallest of "ouchies". Babies tend to do that when they are just 3. They don't know how to keep a secret. IMO!!

For the little girl's sake I hope she is SAFE!

My thoughts and prayers go out to her...:rose: :rose: :rose:

lorettalockhorn
10-02-2007, 04:59 PM
From CNN:

http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/10/01/rape.tape.girl/index.html?iref=newssearch

Mishell1383
10-02-2007, 07:41 PM
Mother of girl in sex video says she was at work

She 'never saw any indication of abuse,' her lawyer adds


MSNBC staff and news service reports

Updated: 3:08 p.m. ET Oct 2, 2007

LAS VEGAS - The mother of a young girl sexually molested several years ago in a video that surfaced recently believes the crime took place while she was at work and an adult babysitter was watching her child.
The single mom "never saw any indication of abuse," her lawyer, Jerry Donohue, told reporters at a news conference called to ask that the media not attempt to interview her or her daughter.
The crime, he said, "is believed to have occurred while she was at work."

Continued: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21101916/

Mishell1383
10-02-2007, 08:31 PM
http://video.msn.com/?mkt=en-us&brand=msnbc&tab=m5&rf=http://www.msnbc.msn.com/&fg=&from=00&vid=23f1b59e-b090-4e8f-b377-d5aa0918d697&playlist=videoByTag:mk:us:vs:0:tag:News_Editors%20 Picks:ns:MSNVideo_Top_Cat:ps:10:sd:-1:ind:1:ff:8A

Video of Chester "The Molester" Stiles horsing around with friends

dallasvic
10-02-2007, 08:35 PM
Wow! The mom recognized the furniture! I think its to soon to tell if the girl will show any signs of sexual assault granted she was aware of what was being done to her. (she could've been drugged like mentioned before).

Hi O2S,
The article I read about the lawyer said the neither him nor the mother had seen the tape.So my question is that if this is true then how did she recognize the furniture and sheets ? Also she said she did not know him personally, but he was a friend of a friend of a friend.If this is so how did she recognize these things ?:confused: :shrug: HELP

One2Snoop
10-02-2007, 08:58 PM
Hi O2S,
The article I read about the lawyer said the neither him nor the mother had seen the tape.So my question is that if this is true then how did she recognize the furniture and sheets ? Also she said she did not know him personally, but he was a friend of a friend of a friend.If this is so how did she recognize these things ?:confused: :shrug: HELP

I took it from the following quoted article. They must of showed her pictures to see if she recognized the setting.

Sheriff DeMeo said, "The mother was not aware of anything that went on with this young girl."

Detective Dave Boruchowitz said both the girl and mother cried as they talked. He says the sexual assault happened in Las Vegas.

"In fact, the mother actually recognized the furniture, recognized the TV," Sheriff DeMeo continued.

http://www.klas-tv.com/Global/story.asp?S=7141733&nav=menu102_2

odette
10-02-2007, 09:01 PM
Hi O2S,
The article I read about the lawyer said the neither him nor the mother had seen the tape.So my question is that if this is true then how did she recognize the furniture and sheets ? Also she said she did not know him personally, but he was a friend of a friend of a friend.If this is so how did she recognize these things ?:confused: :shrug: HELP

DV .. It was Stephanie Allen (Tina Allen's daughter) who recognized the sheets on the video. Stephanie Allen shared the apartment with the victim's Mother. This is the apartment where the sexual assault took place.

Tina Allen = Stiles "ex/girlfriend"
Stephanie Allen = Tina Allen's daughter

imo

odette
10-02-2007, 09:20 PM
http://i13.tinypic.com/4mx4d3l.gif » Woman Identifies Stiles, Sheets In Tape

A Las Vegas woman identifies the man wanted in connection with the sexual assault of a toddler as Chester Stiles, as well as the sheets on the bed in the video.

Scroll to the video on the right of the page
http://www.fox5vegas.com/video/index.html

dallasvic
10-02-2007, 09:36 PM
DV .. It was Stephanie Allen (Tina Allen's daughter) who recognized the sheets on the video. Stephanie Allen shared the apartment with the victim's Mother. This is the apartment where the sexual assault took place.

Tina Allen = Stiles "ex/girlfriend"
Stephanie Allen = Tina Allen's daughter

imo

I took it from the following quoted article. They must of showed her pictures to see if she recognized the setting.

Sheriff DeMeo said, "The mother was not aware of anything that went on with this young girl."

Detective Dave Boruchowitz said both the girl and mother cried as they talked. He says the sexual assault happened in Las Vegas.

"In fact, the mother actually recognized the furniture, recognized the TV," Sheriff DeMeo continued.

http://www.klas-tv.com/Global/story.asp?S=7141733&nav=menu102_2


Hi Odette & O2S,

The mother did not know him personally and had not seen tape nor been to house, above it states :
Mother actually recognized the furniture and T.V. So how can that be I am still :confused: ? :shrug: HELP:eek: Does not sound right to me does it to you ?:shrug:

odette
10-02-2007, 09:53 PM
Hi Odette & O2S,

The mother did not know him personally and had not seen tape nor been to house, above it states :
Mother actually recognized the furniture and T.V. So how can that be I am still :confused: ? :shrug: HELP:eek: Does not sound right to me does it to you ?:shrug:

DV .. Do you have a link for the article where you read the part which I have highlighted green in your post?.

I seem to recall something similar .. maybe it was the mother of the 10 year old girl who was videotaped through her bedroom window who said that?.

I would have to read the article, to which you are referring, to try and work it out. :)

jmho

mwitzah
10-03-2007, 12:11 AM
http://www.transworldnews.com/NewsStory.aspx?storyid=24008&ret=Default.aspx

. . .

Police revealed that Stiles had a vague relationship with the family of the seven-year-old girl and when the mother of the victim saw still pictures of the video she said she recognized some of the furniture and she was able to identify Stiles from police photos.

. . .

dallasvic
10-03-2007, 05:28 AM
DV .. Do you have a link for the article where you read the part which I have highlighted green in your post?.

I seem to recall something similar .. maybe it was the mother of the 10 year old girl who was videotaped through her bedroom window who said that?.

I would have to read the article, to which you are referring, to try and work it out. :)

jmho

Hi odette,

I might be reading it wrong , See what you think ?:shrug:

(The lawyer said neither he nor the mother has watched the videotape.)

link :
http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/10/02/rape.tape.girl/index.html?iref=mpstoryview

odette
10-03-2007, 06:24 AM
Hi odette,

I might be reading it wrong , See what you think ?:shrug:

(The lawyer said neither he nor the mother has watched the videotape.)

link :
http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/10/02/rape.tape.girl/index.html?iref=mpstoryview

Hey DV .. :seeya:

I read the article .. thank you for the link .. The lawyer says in that article:

"The lawyer said neither he nor the mother has watched the videotape."

Reading that, I'm thinking that they must have only seen 'still photo's' taken from the tape, i.e. not the actual video tape.

JMHO

http://edition.cnn.com/2007/US/10/02/rape.tape.girl/index.html?iref=mpstoryview