O.J. In The News Again

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I was thinking the same thing. I'm going to see what all I can find and brush up on it before the tv appearance. might be interesting to compare what was reported, timeframe, etc. if you find anything, let me know.

I will. I've been looking. IMO, Prody and Simpson's life together was so chaotic and dysfunctional that it's hard to get a good timeline on all the 911 calls and 'accidents' but I'm trying to read up on it.

[socaldiva]

I've been trying to find info on Christie's tv appearance. anyone have a link to anything about it?

I'm sorry I didn't see this sooner. Here's the link:

www.tvguide.com/tvshows/good-morning-america/tv-listings/195502

(I hope this works, my copy & paste doesn't work, so I had to do it old school)

Look at Wednesday. Christie Prody is on the same show as Charlize Theron.

[William Anthony]

Christine Prody To Write Tell-All Book About Ex OJ Simpson
Share: by Jon Azpiri | June 21, 2009 at 09:47 am

Christine Prody, the longtime girlfriend of O.J. Simpson, plans to write a tell-all book about her relationship with the ex-football star.

The book entitled Spellbound: My Life With O.J. Simpson, talks about Prody's time with Simpson and--surprise, surprise--it turns out that O.J. isn't a very nice guy. In the book, she talks about his cocaine use, jealousy, possessiveness, and anger. . .

Let me guess. She couldn't leave.

[William Anthony]

O.J.'s Ex Hurls Serious Accusations in New Tell-All
June 19, 2009

And the hits just keep on coming for O.J. Simpson.
While the ex-footballer is locked away in prison — doing nine to 33 years for armed robbery — his ex-girlfriend plans to tell all about their life together in a proposed memoir. The New York Post reports that Christine Prody — who met O.J. as a 20-year-old tourist from Minnesota when she stopped to gawk at his infamous Brentwood, Calif. mansion — has a book in the works — to be called Spellbound: My Life With O.J. Simpson — about her turbulent relationship with the acquitted murderer, including 13 years of cocaine, pregnancy, abuse, jealousy, possessiveness, manipulation and rage.

"She says after he wore her down and made her have an abortion, he 'refused' to accompany her to the hospital," reports the NY Post. "He abandoned her, left her at the curb, made her go alone and then left for a game of golf, and she had to get one of his associates to fetch her. Page 9 of her book proposal refers to that as one of two abortions O.J. made her have."

Prody — a former waitress who moved with O.J. to Miami and helped care for his children Sydney and Justin — says her famous ex-boyfriend often spoke about Nicole Brown Simpson, his ex-wife whom he was acquitted of murdering — along with her friend Ron Goldman — in 1995.

"He'd continually refer to Nicole," reports the Post. "He'd compare their bodies and say Nicole's was better. And Nicole was smarter. He suggested cosmetic surgery so Christine could look more like Nicole. A night Christine wore black he said, 'Nicole wore black the night of her murder.' He said often that Nicole was an awful mother. He convinced Christine it was he who'd been the victim."

A trail of police reports can also document O.J.'s rocky relationship with Prody. Among them is a 1999 call Simpson made to 911 in which he said, “She's been doing drugs for two days ... I'm trying to get her to leave her house to go into rehab right now.” One year later, police were called to a Miami hotel for a disturbance involving the couple. O.J. said she kicked him and slapped but declined to press charges. Then a year after that, she accused him of breaking into her home, but that time she didn’t press charges.

How does someone make another have an abortion when the person is not there? IMHO, Ms. Prody lied.

[William Anthony]

They were together almost as long as he and Nicole. Her claims are very familiar -- it seems to be a reoccurring theme in Simpson's life.

Is the thought that Ms. Prody committed plagiarism?

[William Anthony]

Karma is a powerful thing. You know the old saying 'nothing goes over the devil's back that doesn't come back under his belly'...imo, it may take a while but everything comes full circle in the end.

This karma thing sounds dangerous as it comes from the devil's under belly.

[William Anthony]

O.J.'s Ex Hurls Serious Accusations in New Tell-All
June 19, 2009

And the hits just keep on coming for O.J. Simpson.
While the ex-footballer is locked away in prison — doing nine to 33 years for armed robbery — his ex-girlfriend plans to tell all about their life together in a proposed memoir. The New York Post reports that Christine Prody — who met O.J. as a 20-year-old tourist from Minnesota when she stopped to gawk at his infamous Brentwood, Calif. mansion — has a book in the works — to be called Spellbound: My Life With O.J. Simpson — about her turbulent relationship with the acquitted murderer, including 13 years of cocaine, pregnancy, abuse, jealousy, possessiveness, manipulation and rage.

"She says after he wore her down and made her have an abortion, he 'refused' to accompany her to the hospital," reports the NY Post. "He abandoned her, left her at the curb, made her go alone and then left for a game of golf, and she had to get one of his associates to fetch her. Page 9 of her book proposal refers to that as one of two abortions O.J. made her have."

Prody — a former waitress who moved with O.J. to Miami and helped care for his children Sydney and Justin — says her famous ex-boyfriend often spoke about Nicole Brown Simpson, his ex-wife whom he was acquitted of murdering — along with her friend Ron Goldman — in 1995.

"He'd continually refer to Nicole," reports the Post. "He'd compare their bodies and say Nicole's was better. And Nicole was smarter. He suggested cosmetic surgery so Christine could look more like Nicole. A night Christine wore black he said, 'Nicole wore black the night of her murder.' He said often that Nicole was an awful mother. He convinced Christine it was he who'd been the victim."

A trail of police reports can also document O.J.'s rocky relationship with Prody. Among them is a 1999 call Simpson made to 911 in which he said, “She's been doing drugs for two days ... I'm trying to get her to leave her house to go into rehab right now.” One year later, police were called to a Miami hotel for a disturbance involving the couple. O.J. said she kicked him and slapped but declined to press charges. Then a year after that, she accused him of breaking into her home, but that time she didn’t press charges.

One could say that Ms. Prody is playing the victim and that she should take some personal responsibility and that it is time to move on and forget about it, but that one would not be me as I am not that calloused or insensitive to how certain events impact others differently.

[tv]

I'm sorry I didn't see this sooner. Here's the link:

www.tvguide.com/tvshows/good-morning-america/tv-listings/195502

(I hope this works, my copy & paste doesn't work, so I had to do it old school)

Look at Wednesday. Christie Prody is on the same show as Charlize Theron.

Thanks, socal! I couldn't find it last night. I'm going to watch. :)

[William Anthony]

I don't know if I would be prone to watch one playing the victim and refusing to take personal responsibility, as opposed to moving on and forgetting about it, if that was my mind set about people, unless my mindset didn't apply to all people. Of course, this is just my personal view point on watching someone and no one has to feel as I do, since I do not believe that I am entitled to tell others how to feel or conduct themselves. Just offering an opinion on What I would not do, if I felt a certain way about people playing the victimization card, which I do not.

[weezer]

I'm sorry I didn't see this sooner. Here's the link:

www.tvguide.com/tvshows/good-morning-america/tv-listings/195502

(I hope this works, my copy & paste doesn't work, so I had to do it old school)

Look at Wednesday. Christie Prody is on the same show as Charlize Theron.

thank you -- gonna set my recorder

[William Anthony]

I think that I will watch reruns of the Golden Girls.

[tv]

thank you -- gonna set my recorder

I'm not a watcher of morning talk shows so I had to check the time. It's on from 7 to 9. I didn't realize it came on so early and stayed on for two hours.

[William Anthony]

I'm not a watcher of morning talk shows so I had to check the time. It's on from 7 to 9. I didn't realize it came on so early and stayed on for two hours.

I think the Golden Girls are on during that same time period. I'll be watching them as opposed to, IMHO, Ms. Prody's lies.

[weezer]

OJ Gives People Heart Attacks -- Allegedly
Posted Sep 14th 2009 2:12PM by TMZ Staff

One of the guys who was allegedly held at gunpoint when OJ Simpson tried getting his stuff back is now suing the jailed killer, claiming he suffered multiple heart attacks as a result of the robbery and that Simpson is responsible.

Bruce Fromong filed the personal injury lawsuit in Las Vegas. Fromong is a memorabilia dealer who had some of Simpson's stuff in a Las Vegas hotel room when OJ came a callin'.

Fromong claims as a result of Simpson's violent rampage, he suffered the heart attacks. He's suing for infliction of emotional distress, negligence as well as assault and battery.

Fromong is suing for unspecified compensatory and punitive damages. OJ's assets are sketchy, but we're told Fromong is banking on Simpson's homeowners policy paying the damages.

By the way, we called Simpson a killer because a civil jury found he slaughtered Ron Goldman and Nicole Brown Simpson. We also called him a killer because he's a killer.

Read more: http://www.tmz.com/2009/09/14/oj-simpson-heart-attack-bruce-fromong/#ixzz0R6lWlX6y

[William Anthony]

OJ Gives People Heart Attacks -- Allegedly
Posted Sep 14th 2009 2:12PM by TMZ Staff

One of the guys who was allegedly held at gunpoint when OJ Simpson tried getting his stuff back is now suing the jailed killer, claiming he suffered multiple heart attacks as a result of the robbery and that Simpson is responsible.

Bruce Fromong filed the personal injury lawsuit in Las Vegas. Fromong is a memorabilia dealer who had some of Simpson's stuff in a Las Vegas hotel room when OJ came a callin'.

Fromong claims as a result of Simpson's violent rampage, he suffered the heart attacks. He's suing for infliction of emotional distress, negligence as well as assault and battery.

Fromong is suing for unspecified compensatory and punitive damages. OJ's assets are sketchy, but we're told Fromong is banking on Simpson's homeowners policy paying the damages.

By the way, we called Simpson a killer because a civil jury found he slaughtered Ron Goldman and Nicole Brown Simpson. We also called him a killer because he's a killer.

Read more: http://www.tmz.com/2009/09/14/oj-simpson-heart-attack-bruce-fromong/#ixzz0R6lWlX6y

This is not to try to tell anyone else what to do but, after this lie,"By the way, we called Simpson a killer because a civil jury found he slaughtered Ron Goldman and Nicole Brown Simpson. We also called him a killer because he's a killer.", I will not be reading any more of that obviously biased and untruthful report.

[tv]

OJ Gives People Heart Attacks -- Allegedly
Posted Sep 14th 2009 2:12PM by TMZ Staff

One of the guys who was allegedly held at gunpoint when OJ Simpson tried getting his stuff back is now suing the jailed killer, claiming he suffered multiple heart attacks as a result of the robbery and that Simpson is responsible.

Bruce Fromong filed the personal injury lawsuit in Las Vegas. Fromong is a memorabilia dealer who had some of Simpson's stuff in a Las Vegas hotel room when OJ came a callin'.

Fromong claims as a result of Simpson's violent rampage, he suffered the heart attacks. He's suing for infliction of emotional distress, negligence as well as assault and battery.

Fromong is suing for unspecified compensatory and punitive damages. OJ's assets are sketchy, but we're told Fromong is banking on Simpson's homeowners policy paying the damages.

By the way, we called Simpson a killer because a civil jury found he slaughtered Ron Goldman and Nicole Brown Simpson. We also called him a killer because he's a killer.

Read more: http://www.tmz.com/2009/09/14/oj-simpson-heart-attack-bruce-fromong/#ixzz0R6lWlX6y

I hope Fromong wins but he better not hold his breath waiting for a pay off... :rolleyes:

[socaldiva]

OMG quote of the day goes to TMZ:

"We also called him a killer because he's a killer"


:patriot:

[GreenIce]

I don't see anything odd about it. If someone feels they are not liable and takes all legal steps to avoid paying the judgment, that is what our system allows. Why would he mention Ron?

William,

Could you please ask the posters for links to Simpson ridculing Ronald Goldman?

[GreenIce]

This is not to try to tell anyone else what to do but, after this lie,"By the way, we called Simpson a killer because a civil jury found he slaughtered Ron Goldman and Nicole Brown Simpson. We also called him a killer because he's a killer.", I will not be reading any more of that obviously biased and untruthful report.

William,

I agree with you. I totally agree with anybody who says that "not guilty" does not mean "innocent". However, "more likely" does not translate into "guilty".

The burden of proof bar is a civil trial is so low that a worm could clear it by 3 feet. IMO.

[tv]

OMG quote of the day goes to TMZ:

"We also called him a killer because he's a killer"


:patriot:

Sounds logical to me. :)

[William Anthony]

William,

I agree with you. I totally agree with anybody who says that "not guilty" does not mean "innocent". However, "more likely" does not translate into "guilty".

The burden of proof bar is a civil trial is so low that a worm could clear it by 3 feet. IMO.

GreenIce,

There was no question asked of the jury in the socio political production with the burden of proof bar three feet lower than a worm whether Simpson killed anyone and, imho, no matter how many times a lie it told, it doesn't become truth. When the serial killer was asked why he killed all his family in the home, he responded it was only logical to do because they were home.

[socaldiva]

I'm not a watcher of morning talk shows so I had to check the time. It's on from 7 to 9. I didn't realize it came on so early and stayed on for two hours.

I don't usually watch tv during the day, but I just happened to catch the promo for this. It should be interesting. I think FBG is right with the timing. Prody may have waited til Simpson's prison release was denied before coming forth. At least I read a rumor to that effect. I also read that Prody said that Simpson admitted to killing Nicole & said it was Nicole's fault (no surprise there). This is just another unsupported rumor that I read though. I guess we'll know on Wednesday when Prody speaks for herself.

[serpentsfall]

IMHO, A lie will remain a lie, no matter how many times it is told or by whom. I could not get away, even though I was alone when I got hit on the freeway and when I was at the gas station driving into a pump, IIRC, so I became a drunk, knowing that no one would believe me if I claimed Simpson was abusive.:);):cool:

If Prody was such an unbelieveable mess, why would a fine upstanding man like OJ Simpson keep her around for so many years? He wasn't married to her, he wasn't obligated to keep her in his life. If her lifestyle was so far removed from Simpson's, why was she still living in his house all those years? And why can the NG's never even consider the possibility that the man OJ Simpson was behind closed doors was very different from the public OJ?

[weezer]

If Prody was such an unbelieveable mess, why would a fine upstanding man like OJ Simpson keep her around for so many years? He wasn't married to her, he wasn't obligated to keep her in his life. If her lifestyle was so far removed from Simpson's, why was she still living in his house all those years? And why can the NG's never even consider the possibility that the man OJ Simpson was behind closed doors was very different from the public OJ?

excellent

[tv]

If Prody was such an unbelieveable mess, why would a fine upstanding man like OJ Simpson keep her around for so many years? He wasn't married to her, he wasn't obligated to keep her in his life. If her lifestyle was so far removed from Simpson's, why was she still living in his house all those years? And why can the NG's never even consider the possibility that the man OJ Simpson was behind closed doors was very different from the public OJ?

Great post. :)

[William Anthony]

If Prody was such an unbelieveable mess, why would a fine upstanding man like OJ Simpson keep her around for so many years? He wasn't married to her, he wasn't obligated to keep her in his life. If her lifestyle was so far removed from Simpson's, why was she still living in his house all those years? And why can the NG's never even consider the possibility that the man OJ Simpson was behind closed doors was very different from the public OJ?

I have asked the moderator for some guidance, since my response to you have been deleted. Although the moderator responded to some concerns that were in my prior posts, the moderator has not as of yet responded to my request but I do think that your post is worthy of response and things need to be placed in context.

[Hotwater]

I have asked the moderator for some guidance, since my response to you have been deleted. Although the moderator responded to some concerns that were in my prior posts, the moderator has not as of yet responded to my request but I do think that your post is worthy of response and things need to be placed in context.

Your post is approved with one minor change.

[William Anthony]

If Prody was such an unbelieveable mess, why would a fine upstanding man like OJ Simpson keep her around for so many years? He wasn't married to her, he wasn't obligated to keep her in his life. If her lifestyle was so far removed from Simpson's, why was she still living in his house all those years? And why can the NG's never even consider the possibility that the man OJ Simpson was behind closed doors was very different from the public OJ?

My edited response;

Let me make it perfectly clear what I am saying so that you and others may understand. I have never claimed that Ms. Prody was a mess but I have pointed to the information that suggests she may have had problems with alcohol. She was not the first and will not be the last, imho. It would appear that Simpson was attracted to women who were not on equal or even close to equal footing to him. I cannot speak for Simpson as to why this is but it has been my personal observation that men either become involved with women of that stature because of the Biblical instruction, the bread winner thing, or that they feel secure by having the woman dependent on them and afraid to leave. It could be as simple as Simpson loved her unconditionally and she recognized it.

However, that is just the first prong of my feelings about Ms. Prody, as you know, because, IMHO, I believe she is lying about the things she says. The theory has been bantered about on this board that Simpson may have slashed her tires prior to the accident in which reportedly she was drunk and got his trying to cross the freeway. The fact of the matter is that she was alone when she ran into the gas pumps and got hit crossing the freeway and both times went back to Simpson.

I do believe that Ms. Prody had the ability to leave/change her circumstances, whereas others did not and had to wait for legal remedies to give them rights that even after being enacted were not enforced. However, I am not that type (for clarity, to tell her to get over it, move on, take personal responsibility) of person but I do question her ability to leave and, consequently, question her story.

[fgump2]

How does someone make another have an abortion when the person is not there? IMHO, Ms. Prody lied.

I would assume that the word force would refer to either money or the threat to break off the relationship.

Birds of a feather usually flock together. We can judge Orenthal's character by Prody, and vice versa.

I may have gone too far when I wrote that maybe you are a liar, but if you haven't noticed, most postings on this board are more abrasive than necessary. Tact has been described as getting a point accross without stabbing someone with it. Many of the posts here seem like an attempt to stab somebody without getting a point accross.

I don't recall if Mr. Simpson bad mouthed Ron Goldman, but I think he asked his lawyer Bob Baker to do it. Baker made a comment about how "5 or 10 years from now Ron wouldn't be likely to own a restaurant, he'd be lucky to own a credit card". I thought that was an unnecesary insult. If Baker had just been making the point that Ron didn't have a great future earnings expectaton or potential, I think he would have said it differently, less abrasively.

I wonder why GI asked you to ask someone else about what insults Orenthal had said about Ron. I wonder why GI didn't just ask that herself.

[William Anthony]

I would assume that the word force would refer to either money or the threat to break off the relationship.

Birds of a feather usually flock together. We can judge Orenthal's character by Prody, and vice versa.

I may have gone too far when I wrote that maybe you are a liar, but if you haven't noticed, most postings on this board are more abrasive than necessary. Tact has been described as getting a point accross without stabbing someone with it. Many of the posts here seem like an attempt to stab somebody without getting a point accross.

I don't recall if Mr. Simpson bad mouthed Ron Goldman, but I think he asked his lawyer Bob Baker to do it. Baker made a comment about how "5 or 10 years from now Ron wouldn't be likely to own a restaurant, he'd be lucky to own a credit card". I thought that was an unnecesary insult. If Baker had just been making the point that Ron didn't have a great future earnings expectaton or potential, I think he would have said it differently, less abrasively.

I wonder why GI asked you to ask someone else about what insults Orenthal had said about Ron. I wonder why GI didn't just ask that herself.

I once was told that I could either work in an air conditioned room or go to the motor pool depending on whether me or the seargent could get along and asked, if I understood. I replied, yes, if I kiss you ***. I can work up here. He said tomorrow you report to the motor pool. In most situations a person has the ability to choose what they value most, self-respect or comfort.

Can the same be said of Ms. NBS or would you say that using tact?

If saying that you may have gone to far when you said that maybe I lied is your way of apologizing, after I showed you who actualy said what you attribute to me, then your apology fails.

I find that it is a matter of who is being abraded that makes the difference in whether or not one finds the abrasiveness offensive. Your point about Mr. RG does not seem to extend to Ms.Arnelle, who it has be said engaged in criminal conduct or to the jury.

I think she wanted to know if I had any information on the subject. Why do you think she asked me?

[weezer]

"Sep 15, 2009 10:42:23 AM

O.J. Simpson's girlfriend of 13 years is opening up about their rocky relationship to "Inside Edition."

Christie Prody tells Jim Moret that Simpson hit her and threatened to shoot her and himself if she left him.

Prody says she believes that Simpson killed ex-wife Nicole Simpson and her friend Ron Goldman.

"Did he ever admit to you that he did it?" Moret asks.

"In so many words, he did," Prody says.

The two-part interview airs today and tomorrow. "Inside Edition" can be seen at 4:30 and 7:30 p.m. on WKMG-Channel 6.

Prody says that the football star "despised" Fred Goldman, the father of Ron, and tried to hide money from him.

When Simpson went to prison on an armed-robbery conviction last year, Prody found her way out of the destructive relationship. After going to rehab, she is now sober. She is also the mother of a girl with her new fiance and says her life is wonderful."

[weezer]

O.J. Simpson's ex-girlfriend describes their violent relationship

Christie Prody, O.J. Simpson's former girlfriend, tells Inside Edition that she was trapped for 13 years in a drug and alcohol fueled relationship with the former professional football player and actor that often turned violent.

Simpson, 62, was tried and acquitted of the 1994 slayings of his ex-wife, Nicole Brown Simpson, and her friend, Ron Goldman, but a civil court jury found him responsible for their deaths.

Simpson was convicted last year of armed robbery in Las Vegas in what he said was an attempt to retrieve personal items stolen from him. He is serving nine to 33 years in a Nevada prison.

Here are excerpts from Inside Edition's two-part interview with Prody that will be broadcast today and Wednesday.

INSIDE EDITION: What went through your mind when you knew he was going to jail for a long time?

PRODY: That it was now a time for me to be free and start my life over.

INSIDE EDITION: Was he ever violent with you?

PRODY: Yes.

INSIDE EDITION: Did he hit you?

PRODY: Yes.

INSIDE EDITION: Did you honestly believe if you left, he would kill you?

PRODY: Yeah, I did … He called and said he would come there and shoot me and shoot himself.

INSIDE EDITION: Did he own a gun at the time?

PRODY: Yes, he did.

INSIDE EDITION: Do you believe that O.J. Simpson killed Nicole and Ron?

PRODY: Yes.

INSIDE EDITION: Did he ever admit to you that he did it?

PRODY: In so many words, he did.

[William Anthony]

Why am I reminded of the lyrics, tell me lies, tell me lies, tell me lies when Ms. Prody's name is mentioned.

[serpentsfall]

My edited response;

Let me make it perfectly clear what I am saying so that you and others may understand. I have never claimed that Ms. Prody was a mess but I have pointed to the information that suggests she may have had problems with alcohol. She was not the first and will not be the last, imho. It would appear that Simpson was attracted to women who were not on equal or even close to equal footing to him. I cannot speak for Simpson as to why this is but it has been my personal observation that men either become involved with women of that stature because of the Biblical instruction, the bread winner thing, or that they feel secure by having the woman dependent on them and afraid to leave. It could be as simple as Simpson loved her unconditionally and she recognized it.

However, that is just the first prong of my feelings about Ms. Prody, as you know, because, IMHO, I believe she is lying about the things she says. The theory has been bantered about on this board that Simpson may have slashed her tires prior to the accident in which reportedly she was drunk and got his trying to cross the freeway. The fact of the matter is that she was alone when she ran into the gas pumps and got hit crossing the freeway and both times went back to Simpson.

I do believe that Ms. Prody had the ability to leave/change her circumstances, whereas others did not and had to wait for legal remedies to give them rights that even after being enacted were not enforced. However, I am not that type (for clarity, to tell her to get over it, move on, take personal responsibility) of person but I do question her ability to leave and, consequently, question her story.

William, given all the time you've obviously spent on that post, its got to be one of your most inarticulate to date. Which is it: You think Prody was OJ type because she was dependent on Simpson or so indepedent she could have left any time?

You've referred to Prody as being a "liar" several times, but you've not been very specific about what statement(s) of HERS you think is a lie. Maybe I missed it, but I don't recall HER accusing Simpson of slashing her tires. You make it clear you're not even interesting in hearing what SHE has to say about what her relationship with OJ was like.

And where do you get off inferring that OJ's "women" were no where close to being on equal footing with him? Financial assets and athletic skills are not the only yardstick by which people - and their success as human beings - are measured. Was Marguerite any "less" than OJ when they met in high school just because she wasn't an athlete? How big a deal was OJ at 18 - the age Nicole was when they met? At 18 OJ was a street tough going to a Jr. college because he didn't have the academic accumen to get into a 4-year college - even with his athletic skill. I don't call that being superior to a waitress. By the time Prody met OJ he was arguably more infamous than famous. Maybe Prody loved HIM unconditionally in spite of all his flaws and OJ recognized THAT. Maybe OJ was the needy one instead of being the one in charge of who stays and who goes in their relationship. You won't know because you're not willing to even listen to what Prody has to say. Why? IMO, its because you're afraid she's gonna say something about OJ Simpson that you won't be able to find a defense for, and you can't bear the thought of that. On the InSessions OJ Board, that equates to "YOU LOSE". You're so caught up in your daily arguing about the OJ Simpson case that you've lost all objectivity regarding who OJ Simpson is at the core of his humanity, which goes to what he is and isn't capable of and why.

[William Anthony]

William, given all the time you've obviously spent on that post, its got to be one of your most inarticulate to date. Which is it: You think Prody was OJ type because she was dependent on Simpson or so indepedent she could have left any time?

You've referred to Prody as being a "liar" several times, but you've not been very specific about what statement(s) of HERS you think is a lie. Maybe I missed it, but I don't recall HER accusing Simpson of slashing her tires. You make it clear you're not even interesting in hearing what SHE has to say about what her relationship with OJ was like.

And where do you get off inferring that OJ's "women" were no where close to being on equal footing with him? Financial assets and athletic skills are not the only yardstick by which people - and their success as human beings - are measured. Was Marguerite any "less" than OJ when they met in high school just because she wasn't an athlete? How big a deal was OJ at 18 - the age Nicole was when they met? At 18 OJ was a street tough going to a Jr. college because he didn't have the academic accumen to get into a 4-year college - even with his athletic skill. I don't call that being superior to a waitress. By the time Prody met OJ he was arguably more infamous than famous. Maybe Prody loved HIM unconditionally in spite of all his flaws and OJ recognized THAT. Maybe OJ was the needy one instead of being the one in charge of who stays and who goes in their relationship. You won't know because you're not willing to even listen to what Prody has to say. Why? IMO, its because you're afraid she's gonna say something about OJ Simpson that you won't be able to find a defense for, and you can't bear the thought of that. On the InSessions OJ Board, that equates to "YOU LOSE". You're so caught up in your daily arguing about the OJ Simpson case that you've lost all objectivity regarding who OJ Simpson is at the core of his humanity, which goes to what he is and isn't capable of and why.

With all due respect, since you have not pointed to a grammatical error but you have pointed to something that appears to you to be inarticulate, you might have inarticulately meant to say inconsistent or unintelligible. :) In any event a post on this board hardly stands in isolation. So, I respectfully remind you of this post of mine.

"I once was told that I could either work in an air conditioned room or go to the motor pool depending on whether me or the sergeant could get along and asked, if I understood. I replied, yes, if I kiss you ***. I can work up here. He said tomorrow you report to the motor pool. In most situations a person has the ability to choose what they value most, self-respect or comfort." The point is that Ms. Prody chose the finances over her own safety, if we are to believe her, which I believe she lies.

Her relationship with Simpson was one she willingly engaged in as evidenced by the fact that she could have left in the two incidents I mentioned. The slashing of the tires was suggested by a couple of posters on this board. I have read a portion of what I believe her lies to be and I am more interested in the Golden Girls.

I have never said that Simpson was superior to anyone. I said that he was attracted to women, who were financially dependent on him. At 18 I would hardly call him a man and another commonly accepted notion is that women mature faster than men. When Simpson met Ms. NBS and Ms. Prody he was financially superior to them. Thank you for admitting that I am able to defend Simpson thus far.

I believe in innocent until proven guilty.

[weezer]

William, given all the time you've obviously spent on that post, its got to be one of your most inarticulate to date. Which is it: You think Prody was OJ type because she was dependent on Simpson or so indepedent she could have left any time?

You've referred to Prody as being a "liar" several times, but you've not been very specific about what statement(s) of HERS you think is a lie. Maybe I missed it, but I don't recall HER accusing Simpson of slashing her tires. You make it clear you're not even interesting in hearing what SHE has to say about what her relationship with OJ was like.

And where do you get off inferring that OJ's "women" were no where close to being on equal footing with him? Financial assets and athletic skills are not the only yardstick by which people - and their success as human beings - are measured. Was Marguerite any "less" than OJ when they met in high school just because she wasn't an athlete? How big a deal was OJ at 18 - the age Nicole was when they met? At 18 OJ was a street tough going to a Jr. college because he didn't have the academic accumen to get into a 4-year college - even with his athletic skill. I don't call that being superior to a waitress. By the time Prody met OJ he was arguably more infamous than famous. Maybe Prody loved HIM unconditionally in spite of all his flaws and OJ recognized THAT. Maybe OJ was the needy one instead of being the one in charge of who stays and who goes in their relationship. You won't know because you're not willing to even listen to what Prody has to say. Why? IMO, its because you're afraid she's gonna say something about OJ Simpson that you won't be able to find a defense for, and you can't bear the thought of that. On the InSessions OJ Board, that equates to "YOU LOSE". You're so caught up in your daily arguing about the OJ Simpson case that you've lost all objectivity regarding who OJ Simpson is at the core of his humanity, which goes to what he is and isn't capable of and why.

thank you for another excellent post.

[William Anthony]

And where do you get off inferring that OJ's "women" were no where close to being on equal footing with him? Financial assets and athletic skills are not the only yardstick by which people - and their success as human beings - are measured. Was Marguerite any "less" than OJ when they met in high school just because she wasn't an athlete? How big a deal was OJ at 18 - the age Nicole was when they met? At 18 OJ was a street tough going to a Jr. college because he didn't have the academic accumen to get into a 4-year college - even with his athletic skill. I don't call that being superior to a waitress. By the time Prody met OJ he was arguably more infamous than famous. Maybe Prody loved HIM unconditionally in spite of all his flaws and OJ recognized THAT. Maybe OJ was the needy one instead of being the one in charge of who stays and who goes in their relationship. You won't know because you're not willing to even listen to what Prody has to say. Why? IMO, its because you're afraid she's gonna say something about OJ Simpson that you won't be able to find a defense for, and you can't bear the thought of that. On the InSessions OJ Board, that equates to "YOU LOSE". You're so caught up in your daily arguing about the OJ Simpson case that you've lost all objectivity regarding who OJ Simpson is at the core of his humanity, which goes to what he is and isn't capable of and why.

IMHO, your post might have been shall we say good, if you had not included this last paragraph. The reason that I say this is because you argued an irrelevant, immaterial and superfluous point in that I never said Simpson was superior to anyone. You also argue a non germane point and a point that is not logically aligned with your argument that "Maybe OJ was the needy one instead of being the one in charge of who stays and who goes in their relationship", because Ms. Prody says this, "INSIDE EDITION: Did you honestly believe if you left, he would kill you? PRODY: Yeah, I did … He called and said he would come there and shoot me and shoot himself." So you see you are arguing that Ms. Prody may be a liar. You also argue an untruth when you say this, "On the InSessions OJ Board, that equates to "YOU LOSE". You're so caught up in your daily arguing about the OJ Simpson case that you've lost all objectivity regarding who OJ Simpson is at the core of his humanity, which goes to what he is and isn't capable of and why." You see the moderator can easily verify that I do not post on the InSessions OJ Board." your post lost credibility and, thus, altered its effectiveness. I am not trying to be abrasive and I only want you to understand that false flattery does not help one to improve, IMHO. In fact, IMHO, it impedes progress.

[serpentsfall]

With all due respect, since you have not pointed to a grammatical error but you have pointed to something that appears to you to be inarticulate, you might have inarticulately meant to say inconsistent or unintelligible. :) In any event a post on this board hardly stands in isolation. So, I respectfully remind you of this post of mine.

"I once was told that I could either work in an air conditioned room or go to the motor pool depending on whether me or the sergeant could get along and asked, if I understood. I replied, yes, if I kiss you ***. I can work up here. He said tomorrow you report to the motor pool. In most situations a person has the ability to choose what they value most, self-respect or comfort." The point is that Ms. Prody chose the finances over her own safety, if we are to believe her, which I believe she lies.

Her relationship with Simpson was one she willingly engaged in as evidenced by the fact that she could have left in the two incidents I mentioned. The slashing of the tires was suggested by a couple of posters on this board. I have read a portion of what I believe her lies to be and I am more interested in the Golden Girls.

I have never said that Simpson was superior to anyone. I said that he was attracted to women, who were financially dependent on him. At 18 I would hardly call him a man and another commonly accepted notion is that women mature faster than men. When Simpson met Ms. NBS and Ms. Prody he was financially superior to them. Thank you for admitting that I am able to defend Simpson thus far.

I believe in innocent until proven guilty.

I was not referring to any gramatical error. I was referring to your spin. You contradicted yourself within paragraphs of one post. The truth is you have no idea why Ms. Prody stayed with Simpson, you just think you do. I don't even see your personal ancedote as being an example of choosing self-respect over comfort. I see it as an example of a man willing to bite off his nose to spite his face. An example of a man willing to screw himself over because he wants to "win" whatever the cost. Winning is easy as long as you set your own rules. I didn't hear Prody say she was choosing finances; I thought she was describing choosing life - hers and OJ's - over chancing having him possibly "lose it" AGAIN.

At least you seem to be acknowledging that both you and Simpson equate money with power over people. That's sad. Your quote wasn't considered in a vacuum. Discussing Simpson seems to be your hobby. Therefore, you have a vested interest in refusing to ponder who he is and what he is capable of. To say "OK, he probably did it" would mean an end to your hobby of posting here although I believe, if I took the time to find it, that you have posted before that you think he probably did kill Nicole but don't think the criminal prosecution or civil action proved it. Therefore, it's clear to me (and I believe many of my fellow posters) that you're simply arguing for arguments' sake at this point. Your refusal to even listen to what a woman who knows OJ Simpson intimately has to say simply reinforces my position. At this point you don't even have to actually pretend to "defend" Simpson, you simply need to keep the discussion going enough to keep this board open, as evidenced by the fact that whenever others quit jousting with you, you and Martin start posting back and forth in your joint effort to keep this thread afloat. I hate to say it, Martin, but your bordering on being as pathetic a man as Simpson is.

[Its just me]

With all due respect, since you have not pointed to a grammatical error but you have pointed to something that appears to you to be inarticulate, you might have inarticulately meant to say inconsistent or unintelligible. :) In any event a post on this board hardly stands in isolation. So, I respectfully remind you of this post of mine.

"I once was told that I could either work in an air conditioned room or go to the motor pool depending on whether me or the sergeant could get along and asked, if I understood. I replied, yes, if I kiss you ***. I can work up here. He said tomorrow you report to the motor pool. In most situations a person has the ability to choose what they value most, self-respect or comfort." The point is that Ms. Prody chose the finances over her own safety, if we are to believe her, which I believe she lies.

Her relationship with Simpson was one she willingly engaged in as evidenced by the fact that she could have left in the two incidents I mentioned. The slashing of the tires was suggested by a couple of posters on this board. I have read a portion of what I believe her lies to be and I am more interested in the Golden Girls.

I have never said that Simpson was superior to anyone. I said that he was attracted to women, who were financially dependent on him. At 18 I would hardly call him a man and another commonly accepted notion is that women mature faster than men. When Simpson met Ms. NBS and Ms. Prody he was financially superior to them. Thank you for admitting that I am able to defend Simpson thus far.

I believe in innocent until proven guilty.

Do you have a problem with the out come of Simpson's civil trial and the last one in Nev.

[William Anthony]

I was not referring to any gramatical error. I was referring to your spin. You contradicted yourself within paragraphs of one post. The truth is you have no idea why Ms. Prody stayed with Simpson, you just think you do. I don't even see your personal ancedote as being an example of choosing self-respect over comfort. I see it as an example of a man willing to bite off his nose to spite his face. An example of a man willing to screw himself over because he wants to "win" whatever the cost. Winning is easy as long as you set your own rules. I didn't hear Prody say she was choosing finances; I thought she was describing choosing life - hers and OJ's - over chancing having him possibly "lose it" AGAIN.

At least you seem to be acknowledging that both you and Simpson equate money with power over people. That's sad. Your quote wasn't considered in a vacuum. Discussing Simpson seems to be your hobby. Therefore, you have a vested interest in refusing to ponder who he is and what he is capable of. To say "OK, he probably did it" would mean an end to your hobby of posting here although I believe, if I took the time to find it, that you have posted before that you think he probably did kill Nicole but don't think the criminal prosecution or civil action proved it. Therefore, it's clear to me (and I believe many of my fellow posters) that you're simply arguing for arguments' sake at this point. Your refusal to even listen to what a woman who knows OJ Simpson intimately has to say simply reinforces my position. At this point you don't even have to actually pretend to "defend" Simpson, you simply need to keep the discussion going enough to keep this board open, as evidenced by the fact that whenever others quit jousting with you, you and Martin start posting back and forth in your joint effort to keep this thread afloat. I hate to say it, Martin, but your bordering on being as pathetic a man as Simpson is.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/inarticulate

[serpentsfall]

IMHO, your post might have been shall we say good, if you had not included this last paragraph. The reason that I say this is because you argued an irrelevant, immaterial and superfluous point in that I never said Simpson was superior to anyone. You also argue a non germane point and a point that is not logically aligned with your argument that "Maybe OJ was the needy one instead of being the one in charge of who stays and who goes in their relationship", because Ms. Prody says this, "INSIDE EDITION: Did you honestly believe if you left, he would kill you? PRODY: Yeah, I did … He called and said he would come there and shoot me and shoot himself." So you see you are arguing that Ms. Prody may be a liar. You also argue an untruth when you say this, "On the InSessions OJ Board, that equates to "YOU LOSE". You're so caught up in your daily arguing about the OJ Simpson case that you've lost all objectivity regarding who OJ Simpson is at the core of his humanity, which goes to what he is and isn't capable of and why." You see the moderator can easily verify that I do not post on the InSessions OJ Board." your post lost credibility and, thus, altered its effectiveness. I am not trying to be abrasive and I only want you to understand that false flattery does not help one to improve, IMHO. In fact, IMHO, it impedes progress.

I stand corrected. Your "habit" is posting about Simpson on the CrimeLibrary boad, not the InSession board. My bad for having moved on elsewhere to other current cases.

If you don't think its a "needy" man who would threaten murder/suicide if a woman leaves him, I don't know what to tell you. There is no progress to be made on the Simpson murder issue. It's over and done.

[serpentsfall]

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/inarticulate

Whatever. Replace inarticulate with spin. Or desperation.

[William Anthony]

I was not referring to any gramatical error. I was referring to your spin. You contradicted yourself within paragraphs of one post. The truth is you have no idea why Ms. Prody stayed with Simpson, you just think you do. I don't even see your personal ancedote as being an example of choosing self-respect over comfort. I see it as an example of a man willing to bite off his nose to spite his face. An example of a man willing to screw himself over because he wants to "win" whatever the cost. Winning is easy as long as you set your own rules. I didn't hear Prody say she was choosing finances; I thought she was describing choosing life - hers and OJ's - over chancing having him possibly "lose it" AGAIN.

At least you seem to be acknowledging that both you and Simpson equate money with power over people. That's sad. Your quote wasn't considered in a vacuum. Discussing Simpson seems to be your hobby. Therefore, you have a vested interest in refusing to ponder who he is and what he is capable of. To say "OK, he probably did it" would mean an end to your hobby of posting here although I believe, if I took the time to find it, that you have posted before that you think he probably did kill Nicole but don't think the criminal prosecution or civil action proved it. Therefore, it's clear to me (and I believe many of my fellow posters) that you're simply arguing for arguments' sake at this point. Your refusal to even listen to what a woman who knows OJ Simpson intimately has to say simply reinforces my position. At this point you don't even have to actually pretend to "defend" Simpson, you simply need to keep the discussion going enough to keep this board open, as evidenced by the fact that whenever others quit jousting with you, you and Martin start posting back and forth in your joint effort to keep this thread afloat. I hate to say it, Martin, but your bordering on being as pathetic a man as Simpson is.

I reiterate she chose to allow herself to allegedly be beaten and threaten for and returned to that lifestyle she led with its comfort as opposed to her personal safety and self-respect. My hobby is noticing the outrage over Simpson that is not equaled in other case where the belief is that someone got away with murder and the anger and personal attacks that are thrown at people, who believe that Simpson was not guilty or believe that Simpson was found not guilty because of reasonable doubt. :);):cool:

[William Anthony]

Whatever. Replace inarticulate with spin. Or desperation.

Just want you to be the best that you can be when you make accusations against others. :);):cool:

[William Anthony]

I stand corrected. Your "habit" is posting about Simpson on the CrimeLibrary boad, not the InSession board. My bad for having moved on elsewhere to other current cases.

If you don't think its a "needy" man who would threaten murder/suicide if a woman leaves him, I don't know what to tell you. There is no progress to be made on the Simpson murder issue. It's over and done.

I think it is a controlling person, if true. :);):cool: Just want you to be better and correct.

[serpentsfall]

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/inarticulate

Nevermind. I'll guess I'll stand by inarticulate. "lacking the ability to express oneself, esp. in clear and effective speech: an inarticulate public speaker."

Your post wasn't clear in that you took two opposing positions within one post.

[William Anthony]

Do you have a problem with the out come of Simpson's civil trial and the last one in Nev.

I have said that I have no problem with the verdicts based on what the rulings were and the evidence admitted and evidence and defense excluded.

[serpentsfall]

I think it is a controlling person, if true. :);):cool: Just want you to be better and correct.

And why is a person controlling? Because they need to be.

[serpentsfall]

Just want you to be the best that you can be when you make accusations against others. :);):cool:

No accusations. Just stating the obvious. Poll the other posters...I suspect most who are familiar with your long-term daily posting see it my way.

[William Anthony]

Nevermind. I'll guess I'll stand by inarticulate. "lacking the ability to express oneself, esp. in clear and effective speech: an inarticulate public speaker."

Your post wasn't clear in that you took two opposing positions within one post.

This is your statement, "William, given all the time you've obviously spent on that post, its got to be one of your most inarticulate to date. Which is it: You think Prody was OJ type because she was dependent on Simpson or so indepedent she could have left any time?" That was not my position and I never said that. You may want to reread before you accuse.

[socaldiva]

No accusations. Just stating the obvious. Poll the other posters...I suspect most who are familiar with your long-term daily posting see it my way.

It might be hard to take a poster poll. I believe most have that poster on ignore. The ignore feature is a beautiful thing :D

[William Anthony]

No accusations. Just stating the obvious. Poll the other posters...I suspect most who are familiar with your long-term daily posting see it my way.

"I hate to say it, Martin, but your bordering on being as pathetic a man as Simpson is." By serpents fall

[tv]

It might be hard to take a poster poll. I believe most have that poster on ignore. The ignore feature is a beautiful thing :D

It certainly is. :)

[socaldiva]

Just a reminder for those interested: Tomorrow morning Christie Prody is scheduled to appear on Good Morning America.

[serpentsfall]

I reiterate she chose to allow herself to allegedly be beaten and threaten for and returned to that lifestyle she led with its comfort as opposed to her personal safety and self-respect. My hobby is noticing the outrage over Simpson that is not equaled in other case where the belief is that someone got away with murder and the anger and personal attacks that are thrown at people, who believe that Simpson was not guilty or believe that Simpson was found not guilty because of reasonable doubt. :);):cool:

For a man who constantly posts about what its like to walk in a black man's shoes, you show very little knowledge about or empathy for what its like to walk in an abused woman's shoes.

Simpson, IMO, was found not guilty due to reasonable doubt caused by the racial climate in LA at the time. That jury had evey reason to believe LAPD, and by extension their evidence, could not be trusted when it came to the prosecution of a black man. That doesn't mean that OJ Siimpson did not cause the wrongful death of Ron Goldman and commit domestic violence against Nicole Brown Simpson, as found in the civil trial.

That case is over.

Simpson later committed another crime and was found guilty.
That verdict is on appeal.
Simpson's mindset, including what his motivations were, what he was capable of and why, the types of people he associated with, are IMO interesting and relevant to the current case and his pending appeal. Its not over.

[serpentsfall]

"I hate to say it, Martin, but your bordering on being as pathetic a man as Simpson is." By serpents fall

I meant William, of course, but since Martin tends to rubber stamp anytihing you post when he's here I suppose it's all the same.

BTW, I AM truly glad you're well enough to be back posting/jousting, William, irregardless of what we post. I'm hoping your health is OK following your absence some time ago. Don't think I got the chance to tell you that since you've been back. I do wish you well.

[serpentsfall]

Just a reminder for those interested: Tomorrow morning Christie Prody is scheduled to appear on Good Morning America.

DVR is set. Thanks! I've already seen The Golden Girls.

[socaldiva]

DVR is set. Thanks! I've already seen The Golden Girls.

You're welcome :)

[William Anthony]

A poll would only show that there are those who have spent years being outraged over something they cannot change and validate my observations of their posts.

[William Anthony]

For a man who constantly posts about what its like to walk in a black man's shoes, you show very little knowledge about or empathy for what its like to walk in an abused woman's shoes.

Simpson, IMO, was found not guilty due to reasonable doubt caused by the racial climate in LA at the time. That jury had evey reason to believe LAPD, and by extension their evidence, could not be trusted when it came to the prosecution of a black man. That doesn't mean that OJ Siimpson did not cause the wrongful death of Ron Goldman and commit domestic violence against Nicole Brown Simpson, as found in the civil trial.

That case is over.

Simpson later committed another crime and was found guilty.
That verdict is on appeal.
Simpson's mindset, including what his motivations were, what he was capable of and why, the types of people he associated with, are IMO interesting and relevant to the current case and his pending appeal. Its not over.

To the contrary, I have said that I would not tell someone, who is victimized to get over it, move on, take personal responsibility. However, I think she lied and was not a victim.

He was found not guilty because the prosecution failed miserably.

I have no problem with the verdict in the socio political production based on what the jury was allowed to hear and excluded from hearing.

As to your last paragraph, "Call a housewife to do a plumbing job and you will have a sweet mess. "

[William Anthony]

And why is a person controlling? Because they need to be.

Exactly, they do not need to feel needed only to feel powerful.

[William Anthony]

I meant William, of course, but since Martin tends to rubber stamp anytihing you post when he's here I suppose it's all the same.

BTW, I AM truly glad you're well enough to be back posting/jousting, William, irregardless of what we post. I'm hoping your health is OK following your absence some time ago. Don't think I got the chance to tell you that since you've been back. I do wish you well.

Thank you and it is true that I enjoy jousting as it helps me to hone my skills if God grants me the opportunity to use them. The health issue is tricky. I had a Dr.'s appointment today and they aren't sure what can or rather what should be done. I am not sure what I am going to allow them to do. I had confidence in the Dr. that did my heart surgery. Thanks and I will try to keep you on your toes for as long as possible.

[William Anthony]

DVR is set. Thanks! I've already seen The Golden Girls.

Ah, the question I could ask about that post. Here's another one though. Do you live in the south?:) Lighthearted banter.

[William Anthony]

Originally Posted by serpentsfall View Post
I was not referring to any gramatical error. I was referring to your spin. You contradicted yourself within paragraphs of one post. The truth is you have no idea why Ms. Prody stayed with Simpson, you just think you do. I don't even see your personal ancedote as being an example of choosing self-respect over comfort. I see it as an example of a man willing to bite off his nose to spite his face. An example of a man willing to screw himself over because he wants to "win" whatever the cost. Winning is easy as long as you set your own rules. I didn't hear Prody say she was choosing finances; I thought she was describing choosing life - hers and OJ's - over chancing having him possibly "lose it" AGAIN.

You may see it as a man willing to bite off his nose to spite his face or a man willing to win at any cost but I kept myself respect. You will note that the sergeant did not say that I was wrong, only for me to report to the motor pool. I was speaking of allowing herself to be abused, when there was obviously times she was alone (She could have left any of those times, had she not have been so enamored with her financial keeping, IMHO) and, as you correctly point out, there was not marriage or children.

[weezer]

O.J. Simpson's Ex-Girlfriend Christine Prody Said She Feared for Her Life
Prody Said Nicole Brown Simpson Was a 'Nonstop Issue' With O.J. Simpson
By ANDREA CANNING, LANA ZAK and SARAH NETTER
Sept. 16, 2009

Christie Prody was a faithful girlfriend to O.J. Simpson for 13 years, even as her family members questioned why she would date a man who many still believe killed his ex-wife and her friend.

Christie Prody discusses life with O.J. after he was acquitted of murder charges. But now Prody said that she often feared for her life during her rocky relationship with the former football star. She says she believes Simpson killed Nicole Brown Simpson and Ron Goldman in 1994, a belief that's based on comments Simpson made to her during their relationship.

"It took me many years to realize and face that hard, terrible truth," she told "Good Morning America." "Things he's mentioned about Nicole, how she had it coming because of her lifestyle and who she hung out with, mainly Ron Goldman, I guess."

Simpson was acquitted of the murders, but was slapped with a $33.5 million judgment in a wrongful death civil suit.

Prody, 34, also claims Simpson subjected her to constant physical and emotional abuse. She says Simpson threatened to kill her, an accusation he has denied. She said she tried to leave on several occasions.

"If I did he would find me," Prody said. "[The] only place I had to go were to friends of ours. He would come by … threaten, manipulate. I had no choice at that point. I had nowhere to go."

Prody's attorney Gloria Allred told "Good Morning America" that Prody was lucky she got out of the relationship alive.

"He had the power in the relationship. She was dependent on him … her life was literally in danger," he said. "What some women think is love can lead to a life and death situation."

Simpson is currently serving jail time in Nevada for armed robbery and kidnapping but is appealing his case. His lawyer released a statement refuting Prody's claims.

"The only person to get taken out of the house and handcuffed for domestic violence was Christie Prody. The only person who has been to drug rehab is Christie Prody. The facts are just inconsistent with what Christie is saying," Yale Galanter said in a statement.

But Prody refuted that comment.

"The part where I was taken out of the house in handcuffs was absolutely untrue," Prody said. "I've never been arrested for anything like that. But yes, I was in treatment, I checked myself into treatment after a couple years of being depressed and dealing with my depression in a way through substance abuse."

[William Anthony]

http://sports.rightpundits.com/?p=210

[weezer]

Prody: Nicole Was 'Nonstop Issue' for Simpson

Prody and Simpson met one year after he was acquitted for the murders of Brown Simpson and Goldman. She said she knew of his trial, but didn't know much else, including anything about his football career.

She said she was "very young, very naive, confused."

The Minnesota-born cocktail waitress met Simpson, who is 30 years older than she is, while visiting his Brentwood, Calif., estate, which had become a popular tourist attraction.

Suddenly a man yelled out to her," Hold up girl, what is your hurry?" It was Simpson.

Simpson asked for her phone number and invited her to dinner the next evening, which Simpson's sister prepared for them.

Prody wore black on that date and says Simpson told her that his ex-wife wore black on the night of her murder, which she says she found odd. It was the first of many references to his ex-wife that Prody said continued.

"Just the way I would dress, the way I would wear my hair. Minor things. It was always back about Nicole," she said. "He'd always bring her up. It was a nonstop issue with him."

But Prody said she was impressed by Simpson and initially could not believe he was suspected of murder. Before long, the two fell in love and moved to Florida together.

But the relationship soon turned rocky, and Prody claims Simpson constantly compared her to his deceased ex-wife. She claims he convinced her to get breast implants so she could look more like Nicole, yet would make comments saying "that her lifestyle led her to what happened, basically. That she was asking for it, deserved it. That's what he stated quite often."

"I felt like I had no choice" but to stay with him, Prody said.

[weezer]

Simpson's Ex Reveling in New Life, New Baby

The police were called four times to intervene in the couple's relationship, and Simpson once called 911 from Prody's apartment because he was concerned about her drug use.

"We have a problem here," Simpson said on the 911 recording. "I'm trying to get a girl to rehab. She's been doing drugs for two days with Pedro Guerrero who just got arrested for cocaine."

But Allred said it was Simpson who introduced Prody to drugs.

"I think O.J. Simpson should really think about his life," Allred said. "He's the one that has to take responsibility and be held accountable."

Prody supported Simpson during his trial for armed robbery and kidnapping but said "everything" has changed and she will not stand by him anymore.

"I have a new baby, a new man," she aid. "My life is completely different."

But while Prody said she is worried about her young family's safety if Simpson is released from prison, "now I realize that I don't think he's getting out -- at least I hope he's not."

[weezer]

Watch the video of Christie Prody on GMA on Good Morning America's website

[William Anthony]

http://www.bloggernews.net/113821

It seems that I might have been mistaken and Ms. Prody did not drive but fell into the gas pumps in a drunken condition.

[William Anthony]

Does anyone think Ms. Prody needs to take personal responsibility for her drug use instead of blaming Simpson for introducing her to them?

[serpentsfall]

Does anyone think Ms. Prody needs to take personal responsibility for her drug use instead of blaming Simpson for introducing her to them?

I do. But then I don't think she's been particularly forthcoming in any of the interviews I've seen yesterday or today. Interviewing her seems akin to pulling teeth. She answers questions the way a good witness is told to do it in court; answer only what you're asked and don't offer anything else.

[William Anthony]

I do. But then I don't think she's been particularly forthcoming in any of the interviews I've seen yesterday or today. Interviewing her seems akin to pulling teeth. She answers questions the way a good witness is told to do it in court; answer only what you're asked and don't offer anything else.

The very idea behind taking drugs is to alter the state of mind and/or body. Therefore, when it is taken into consideration that Ms. Prody should accept personal responsibility for her decision to engage in drugs, any decisions she made thereafter were the result of an altered mind and/or body and the consequences of those choices were contingent upon her voluntary choice to engage in drug taking.

[serpentsfall]

The very idea behind taking drugs is to alter the state of mind and/or body. Therefore, when it is taken into consideration that Ms. Prody should accept personal responsibility for her decision to engage in drugs, any decisions she made thereafter were the result of an altered mind and/or body and the consequences of those choices were contingent upon her voluntary choice to engage in drug taking.

There's a lot of difference between a person taking responsibility for taking drugs and drugs being 100% responsible for everything that happens to a person afterwards. Prody being addicted to drugs doesn't excuse Simpson threatening to kill her. Many women who are not drug and/or alcohol addicted stay in abusive relationships. You seem to be trying to make a direct correlation between the two. They are two separate issues, although they may be interrelated. Prody is not responsible for Simpson's actions, only her own.

[William Anthony]

There's a lot of difference between a person taking responsibility for taking drugs and drugs being 100% responsible for everything that happens to a person afterwards. Prody being addicted to drugs doesn't excuse Simpson threatening to kill her. Many women who are not drug and/or alcohol addicted stay in abusive relationships. You seem to be trying to make a direct correlation between the two. They are two separate issues, although they may be interrelated. Prody is not responsible for Simpson's actions, only her own.

There you have it. I have never said that Ms. Prody was responsible for Simpson's conduct and you agreed that Ms. Prody should take personal responsibility for he own choice as it related to taking drugs. I don't know whether or not she was an addict but you have chosen to call her one, with which I will not argue. I do believe she has admitted to abusing drugs. Once one makes a voluntary decision to engage in drug taking, they are responsible for any decisions they make, whether while taking drugs or not. I do not doubt that many women stay in abusive relationships and are not drug addicts. They stay for whatever benefit they think they receive from staying and there are some who are held captive and can't escape. There are some who have been mentally brainwashed to think that they must stay. There are some, who choose to stay for financial reasons, either unable to get a place on their own or unable to support their drug habit on their own. It is Prody's decisions and actions that I am holding her responsible for and, consequently, I have formed the earnest opinion that Ms. Prody lied.

[weezer]

DA seeks more time in OJ co-defendant appeal
The Associated Press
Posted: 09/16/2009 01:52:19 PM PDT


LAS VEGAS—Prosecutors are asking the Nevada Supreme Court for 30 more days to answer an appeal by convicted O.J. Simpson co-defendant Clarence "C.J." Stewart.
A clerk at the state's only appellate court in Carson City says a motion seeking an extension to Oct. 16 was received Wednesday.

The court is expected to grant the request.

Clark County District Attorney David Roger says it's taken time to sift through transcripts and trial material lawyers for Simpson and Stewart submitted last May.

The DA says he focused first on responding to Simpson's appeal last Friday.

That document argues that Simpson was fairly convicted of armed robbery and kidnapping in a September 2007 a confrontation with sports memorabilia dealers in a Las Vegas casino hotel room.

[William Anthony]

I think that the prosecution had plenty of time to respond but they may need an extension so that they can come up with some creative arguments.

[weezer]

OJ co-defendant lawyer opposing DA time extension
By KEN RITTER Associated Press Writer
Posted: 09/18/2009 09:59:15 AM PDT
Updated: 09/18/2009 01:07:15 PM PDT

LAS VEGAS—A lawyer for convicted O.J. Simpson co-defendant Clarence "C.J." Stewart is opposing the Clark County district attorney's request for a 30-day extension to answer Stewart's appeal to the Nevada Supreme Court.

"They should deny the motion and give them 10 days," lawyer Brent Bryson said Friday after filing documents with the state's only appellate court.

Bryson scoffed at District Attorney David Rogers' claim, submitted just prior to Wednesday's deadline, that an overworked law clerk was too busy meeting a Sept. 11 deadline on Simpson's appeal to also work on Stewart's appeal.

"Mr. Stewart was always thought of and treated as an afterthought," Bryson said. "His case was never seriously taken on its own merits."

In a four-page motion filed late Thursday, Bryson wrote that devoting resources to Simpson instead of Stewart showed "the same bias and prejudice toward Stewart" that he cited in the appeal filed last May seeking to overturn Stewart's conviction and sentence.

Roger said Friday that his office will keep preparing a response to Stewart's 50-page appeal while the high court considers the extension. He also suggested the request for more time was a simple courtesy.

"I will ... make sure all our deputies remember Mr. Bryson's policy on extension requests," Roger said.

The district attorney followed with a written request Friday asking the Supreme Court to reject Bryson's motion.

Stewart, a former Simpson golfing buddy, lost repeated efforts before, during and after trial to have his case severed from Simpson's. Bryson alleges Stewart suffered "spillover prejudice" from being tried alongside the NFL hall of famer whose acquittal in the 1994 slayings of his ex-wife, Nicole Brown Simpson, and her friend, Ron Goldman, in Los Angeles was dubbed the "trial of the century."

Bryson also has challenged the admission of crucial audio recordings as evidence, and alleged the jury foreman failed to disclose a personal bias toward Simpson until after Simpson and Stewart were convicted and sentenced.

Simpson and Stewart were found guilty of kidnapping, armed robbery and other charges stemming from an armed confrontation in September 2007 with sports memorabilia dealers in a Las Vegas casino hotel room.

Simpson, 62, is serving nine to 33 years at Lovelock Correctional Center, 90 miles northeast of Reno.

Stewart, 55, is serving 7 1/2 to 27 years at Northern Nevada Correctional Center in Carson City.

A three-judge state Supreme Court panel has denied requests by both men to be freed from prison on bail while their appeals are considered. Rulings on the appeals themselves are not expected until next year.

Simpson's lawyers allege his case should be overturned due to judicial misconduct, insufficient evidence, a lack of racial diversity on the jury and errors in sentencing and jury instructions.

Roger maintained in the answer filed a week ago that Simpson was fairly tried, convicted and sentenced.

"Simpson has not demonstrated any error warranting reversal," the prosecutor said."

[William Anthony]

OJ co-defendant lawyer opposing DA time extension
By KEN RITTER Associated Press Writer
Posted: 09/18/2009 09:59:15 AM PDT
Updated: 09/18/2009 01:07:15 PM PDT


Roger maintained in the answer filed a week ago that Simpson was fairly tried, convicted and sentenced.

"Simpson has not demonstrated any error warranting reversal," the prosecutor said."

That will be for the appellate court to decide.

[fgump2]

Does anyone think Ms. Prody needs to take personal responsibility for her drug use instead of blaming Simpson for introducing her to them?
Ms. Prody is just one more person saying that Mr. SImpson was a drug user, and a jerk. She is responsible for her own mess to the extent that the most other people are.

Nicole, Faye Resnick, Jim Brown, and now Ms. Prody have all said that Mr. Simpson has a drug problem. Were they all making it up? The cleaner a person's nose is, the less likely they are to know how other people have been getting dirt on their noses. It isn't surprising that the people who know the most about Simpson's undesireable behavior have some serious flaws themselves.

My understanding of how judges and juries think is that juries will sometimes convict people in part because of the testimony of people who have serious moral flaws in their lives. Generally speacking the more sources there are who give a consistent story, the more believable the stories become.

The story that Ms. Prody told is similar to the stories some LA people told. It is possible that she was cribbing from them, but I don't think there was enough contact between Jim Brown and any other others sources for there to be any cribbing or copying going on.

I am curious about the fact that some people say that Ms Prody said that she thought Simpson slashed her tires. I am pretty sure that Nicole made that charge also.

[socaldiva]

*snip*
I am curious about the fact that some people say that Ms Prody said that she thought Simpson slashed her tires. I am pretty sure that Nicole made that charge also.

It must have been especially frightening for Ms Prody, considering her tires were slashed. :chicken:

[William Anthony]

Ms. Prody is just one more person saying that Mr. SImpson was a drug user, and a jerk. She is responsible for her own mess to the extent that the most other people are.

Nicole, Faye Resnick, Jim Brown, and now Ms. Prody have all said that Mr. Simpson has a drug problem. Were they all making it up? The cleaner a person's nose is, the less likely they are to know how other people have been getting dirt on their noses. It isn't surprising that the people who know the most about Simpson's undesireable behavior have some serious flaws themselves.

My understanding of how judges and juries think is that juries will sometimes convict people in part because of the testimony of people who have serious moral flaws in their lives. Generally speacking the more sources there are who give a consistent story, the more believable the stories become.

The story that Ms. Prody told is similar to the stories some LA people told. It is possible that she was cribbing from them, but I don't think there was enough contact between Jim Brown and any other others sources for there to be any cribbing or copying going on.

I am curious about the fact that some people say that Ms Prody said that she thought Simpson slashed her tires. I am pretty sure that Nicole made that charge also.

This has to do with what? Simpson was not charged with slashing her tires and I think Jack the Ripper slashed them. Ms. Prody admits to being a drug abuser, so there is no need for people to say she was. Ms. Prody did drugs, because Ms. Prody decided to do drugs, IMHO.

[William Anthony]

I think it would have been more frightening drunkenly staggering across the expressway and getting hit by two cars.

[fgump2]

This has to do with what? Simpson was not charged with slashing her tires and I think Jack the Ripper slashed them. Ms. Prody admits to being a drug abuser, so there is no need for people to say she was. Ms. Prody did drugs, because Ms. Prody decided to do drugs, IMHO.

This has to do with Orenthal SImpson, what kind of a person he was and is. He has collected a lot of bad character references. These threads are devoted to Mr. Simpson, not Ms. Prody.

I find it surprising that there are so many people who seem to think there is more evidence that Nicole abused drugs more than Orenthal did. I think a reasonable person would say that there is quite a bit more evidence that Orenthal was into cocaine rather deeply.

Soo after the 1994 murders, the former football star Jim Brown said that SImpson had a cocaine problem and "everybody knew it". Jim Brown is far from a saint, he has had legal problems with violence against women, and often comes across as vain, but he has been in the news for a long time, and I don't think that anyone has accused him of making things up or treating rumors as facts.

As far as I know Jim Brown never associated with either Nicole or Orenthal or any of Nicole's friends, so it is odd that both Nicole and Jim Brown would come up with the charge of cocaine abuse - unless it is true. I realize this might have been better posted on the random thoughts thread or whatever it is.

[fgump2]

This has to do with what? Simpson was not charged with slashing her tires and I think Jack the Ripper slashed them. Ms. Prody admits to being a drug abuser, so there is no need for people to say she was. Ms. Prody did drugs, because Ms. Prody decided to do drugs, IMHO.

The story I heard was that Martin II slashed the tires while Greenice stood as a lookout. I'll try to learn if there is any truth to that.

The point is that two women who Orenthal was romantically involved with came up with similar stories. This isn't enough to convict Mr. Simpson, but it is either evidence that the stories are true, or the has been some amazing coincidences or that Ms. Prody took notes from Nicole's complaints. If other people can confirm very many parts of Ms. Prody's stories, I would regard that as evidence that her crticisms and stories of Orenthal are probably true.

Orenthal defenders seem to accept a lot of coincidences. Too many for me.

[William Anthony]

This has to do with Orenthal SImpson, what kind of a person he was and is. He has collected a lot of bad character references. These threads are devoted to Mr. Simpson, not Ms. Prody.

I find it surprising that there are so many people who seem to think there is more evidence that Nicole abused drugs more than Orenthal did. I think a reasonable person would say that there is quite a bit more evidence that Orenthal was into cocaine rather deeply.

Soo after the 1994 murders, the former football star Jim Brown said that SImpson had a cocaine problem and "everybody knew it". Jim Brown is far from a saint, he has had legal problems with violence against women, and often comes across as vain, but he has been in the news for a long time, and I don't think that anyone has accused him of making things up or treating rumors as facts.

As far as I know Jim Brown never associated with either Nicole or Orenthal or any of Nicole's friends, so it is odd that both Nicole and Jim Brown would come up with the charge of cocaine abuse - unless it is true. I realize this might have been better posted on the random thoughts thread or whatever it is.

Perhaps, you should have told others that this is about Simpson and not Ms. Prody. However, the rules allow for us to call someone a liar, when stated as our opinion. Ms. Prody placed herself in the limelight when she decided to attach herself to Simpson. This is about her and her decisions and her desire to want to blame Simpson for her character flaws. As far as it goes to rumors or speculations of drug use, we need not do this in Ms. Prody's case as she admits she is/was a drug abuser.

[weezer]

The story I heard was that Martin II slashed the tires while Greenice stood as a lookout. I'll try to learn if there is any truth to that.

The point is that two women who Orenthal was romantically involved with came up with similar stories. This isn't enough to convict Mr. Simpson, but it is either evidence that the stories are true, or the has been some amazing coincidences or that Ms. Prody took notes from Nicole's complaints. If other people can confirm very many parts of Ms. Prody's stories, I would regard that as evidence that her crticisms and stories of Orenthal are probably true.

Orenthal defenders seem to accept a lot of coincidences. Too many for me.

I agree -- especially when you take into account the fact that on the night they were butchered, Ron Goldman and Nicole Brown had NO drugs in their systems -- on the day orenthal james simpson was questioned about the deaths, he DID have drugs in his system. ac said orenthal did drugs and we know the lengths he is willing to go to to protect his bud. :rolleyes:

[William Anthony]

Well, we have rumors of drug use by Simpson as compared to an admission of drug abuse by Ms. Prody, who now thinks she is entitled to blame Simpson for her choices, which IMHO is a lie.

[GreenIce]

The story I heard was that Martin II slashed the tires while Greenice stood as a lookout. I'll try to learn if there is any truth to that.

The point is that two women who Orenthal was romantically involved with came up with similar stories. This isn't enough to convict Mr. Simpson, but it is either evidence that the stories are true, or the has been some amazing coincidences or that Ms. Prody took notes from Nicole's complaints. If other people can confirm very many parts of Ms. Prody's stories, I would regard that as evidence that her crticisms and stories of Orenthal are probably true.

Orenthal defenders seem to accept a lot of coincidences. Too many for me.

fgump2,

What do you mean I was the lookout?

[fgump2]

fgump2,

What do you mean I was the lookout?

This was an attempt at humor. One person (more likely Orenthal than Martin II) slashes the tires while another watches out for cops or other witnesses.

[fgump2]

Well, we have rumors of drug use by Simpson as compared to an admission of drug abuse by Ms. Prody, who now thinks she is entitled to blame Simpson for her choices, which IMHO is a lie.

This thread is on Mr. SImpson, not Ms. Prody. Prody is a public figure only because she knew him. Since Simpson was for a long while a public hero and a role model, his faults are more relevant than hers.

Maybe we should have a thread for Ms. Prody, but who would want to look at it?

[William Anthony]

This thread is on Mr. SImpson, not Ms. Prody. Prody is a public figure only because she knew him. Since Simpson was for a long while a public hero and a role model, his faults are more relevant than hers.

Maybe we should have a thread for Ms. Prody, but who would want to look at it?

A poster made Ms. Prody relevant when they posted about her and her accusations against Simpson and her admissions and, in that vein, I expressed my opinion that Ms. Prody lied. It is the same as some posters saying and others expressing their opinion that Ms. Arnelle lied and Ms. Arnelle would be a public figure only because she is Simpson's daughter, don't you agree? I think that Ms. Prody's faults are equally relevant to Ms. Arnelle's, don't you agree?

[GreenIce]

This was an attempt at humor. One person (more likely Orenthal than Martin II) slashes the tires while another watches out for cops or other witnesses.

fgump2,

I know it was an attempt at humor. I had a snappy reply but got called away. I took no offense.

[weezer]

This thread is on Mr. SImpson, not Ms. Prody. Prody is a public figure only because she knew him. Since Simpson was for a long while a public hero and a role model, his faults are more relevant than hers.

Maybe we should have a thread for Ms. Prody, but who would want to look at it?

:beer::beer:

[William Anthony]

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I've been trying to find info on Christie's tv appearance. anyone have a link to anything about it?

I admire a person who drinks with a person who puts them down.:);):cool:

[GreenIce]

Perhaps, you should have told others that this is about Simpson and not Ms. Prody. However, the rules allow for us to call someone a liar, when stated as our opinion. Ms. Prody placed herself in the limelight when she decided to attach herself to Simpson. This is about her and her decisions and her desire to want to blame Simpson for her character flaws. As far as it goes to rumors or speculations of drug use, we need not do this in Ms. Prody's case as she admits she is/was a drug abuser.

William,

IMO, Ms. Prody may very well finally realized that Simpson was never going to marry her, he did not want to start another family. She may have believed that he would eventually change his mind and when he didn't, she got mad because of all the years she wasted.

Also, she may have also realized that even with Nicole being gone, her presence was just as strong as if she was still alive. Remember, Paula broke up with Simpson because of Nicole and their kids. I don't believe Simpson had any intention of taking the relationship to the next step, IMO.

[fgump2]

A poster made Ms. Prody relevant when they posted about her and her accusations against Simpson and her admissions and, in that vein, I expressed my opinion that Ms. Prody lied. It is the same as some posters saying and others expressing their opinion that Ms. Arnelle lied and Ms. Arnelle would be a public figure only because she is Simpson's daughter, don't you agree? I think that Ms. Prody's faults are equally relevant to Ms. Arnelle's, don't you agree?
I would say that Arnelle is the more relevant person because she may have helped cover up for him.

I think anyone who took illegal drugs as much as Ms. Prody did (I guess) looses some credibility.

[William Anthony]

William,

IMO, Ms. Prody may very well finally realized that Simpson was never going to marry her, he did not want to start another family. She may have believed that he would eventually change his mind and when he didn't, she got mad because of all the years she wasted.

Also, she may have also realized that even with Nicole being gone, her presence was just as strong as if she was still alive. Remember, Paula broke up with Simpson because of Nicole and their kids. I don't believe Simpson had any intention of taking the relationship to the next step, IMO.

GreenIce,

All of that may very well be true, which would give her more reason, imho, to lie and blame Simpson for her faults.

[William Anthony]

I would say that Arnelle is the more relevant person because she may have helped cover up for him.

I think anyone who took illegal drugs as much as Ms. Prody did (I guess) looses some credibility.

There is no evidence that Ms. Arnelle covered up anything but posters say she lied when there is evidence to support that she was telling the truth. The only reason she is relevant, imho, is that she is attached to Simpson and some think that makes her fair game, as you indicated in your prior post that she is some type of public figure. The same can be said about Ms. Prody-she was attached to Simpson, she is some type of public figure, she is relevant and she is fair game, don't you think?

[GreenIce]

There is no evidence that Ms. Arnelle covered up anything but posters say she lied when there is evidence to support that she was telling the truth. The only reason she is relevant, imho, is that she is attached to Simpson and some think that makes her fair game, as you indicated in your prior post that she is some type of public figure. The same can be said about Ms. Prody-she was attached to Simpson, she is some type of public figure, she is relevant and she is fair game, don't you think?

William,

I agree with you that Prody is fair game. However, who turned her into a "target"? She declared herself "fair game" when she went public with her accusations.

I did not watch any of the interviews or read anything other then what was posted here because of the money. A book that has been written in Simpson's favor will not be received very well and it will not make the money that an anti-Simpson book.

From what little I did know of her and the relationship with Simpson was that she meant very little to him, that she never even came close to replacing Paula in his life let alone Nicole.

Also, again, she provides no support, that I can see of her claims. When she got involved with Simpson, she knew what she was doing and to blame him for her issues with drugs and/or drink, is not right. Also, she also has a violent streak.

IMO, Simpson should take some responsibility for getting involved with a much, much younger woman and one who appears to have had a drug problem even before she met him.

To a certain degree, I blame him for taking her youth if he led her on in regards to an eventual marriage and/or children. I think it is pretty well known that Simpson did not want to have another family and the only person he may have thought about it with was Paula.

[William Anthony]

William,

I agree with you that Prody is fair game. However, who turned her into a "target"? She declared herself "fair game" when she went public with her accusations.

I did not watch any of the interviews or read anything other then what was posted here because of the money. A book that has been written in Simpson's favor will not be received very well and it will not make the money that an anti-Simpson book.

From what little I did know of her and the relationship with Simpson was that she meant very little to him, that she never even came close to replacing Paula in his life let alone Nicole.

Also, again, she provides no support, that I can see of her claims. When she got involved with Simpson, she knew what she was doing and to blame him for her issues with drugs and/or drink, is not right. Also, she also has a violent streak.

IMO, Simpson should take some responsibility for getting involved with a much, much younger woman and one who appears to have had a drug problem even before she met him.

To a certain degree, I blame him for taking her youth if he led her on in regards to an eventual marriage and/or children. I think it is pretty well known that Simpson did not want to have another family and the only person he may have thought about it with was Paula.

GreenIce,

one cannot take what another willingly gives to him, unless the other is a minor or by some other means incompetent.

[tv]

This thread is on Mr. SImpson, not Ms. Prody. Prody is a public figure only because she knew him. Since Simpson was for a long while a public hero and a role model, his faults are more relevant than hers.

Maybe we should have a thread for Ms. Prody, but who would want to look at it?

Ms. Prody's relevance is significant only in that it offers some insight into the kind of person Simpson is and what he may have confided to her. I don't think anyone here thinks she's a saint. She made her choices but Simpson got his hooks into her when she was young and impressionable just like he did Nicole. It's very hard to break away from someone when they dominate your life to such a degree. Look at kidnap victims that stay with their captors for years under more horrendous conditons even though they had many opportunities to escape...Shawn Hornbeck and Jaycee Dugard come to mind. I don't know what kind of person she really is or if she's truly changed her life around but her but for her sake and her child's I hope she has.

Before someone says I'm likening the situation of Simpson and Prody to kidnapper and victim -- I'm not.

[weezer]

Ms. Prody's relevance is significant only in that it offers some insight into the kind of person Simpson is and what he may have confided to her. I don't think anyone here thinks she's a saint. She made her choices but Simpson got his hooks into her when she was young and impressionable just like he did Nicole. It's very hard to break away from someone when they dominate your life to such a degree. Look at kidnap victims that stay with their captors for years under more horrendous conditons even though they had many opportunities to escape...Shawn Hornbeck and Jaycee Dugard come to mind. I don't know what kind of person she really is or if she's truly changed her life around but her but for her sake and her child's I hope she has.

Before someone says I'm likening the situation of Simpson and Prody to kidnapper and victim -- I'm not.

I think you've made a good point. I know that when people hear over and over that they are beautiful, ugly, smart, stupid, entitled -- they more often than not accept, adapt, and/or demand whatever comes with that description. I believe drugs and orenthal's tendency to violence and threats probably kept her there longer than any sane person should have stayed but I guess the question then is: what came first orenthal or the drugs?

I actually was more interested in how much she knows about where orenthal's 'stuff' is. especially the ring. . . .:eek:

[tv]

I think you've made a good point. I know that when people hear over and over that they are beautiful, ugly, smart, stupid, entitled -- they more often than not accept, adapt, and/or demand whatever comes with that description. I believe drugs and orenthal's tendency to violence and threats probably kept her there longer than any sane person should have stayed but I guess the question then is: what came first orenthal or the drugs?

I actually was more interested in how much she knows about where orenthal's 'stuff' is. especially the ring. . . .:eek:

I'm glad you mentioned the ring...I had forgotten about it. I'm sure she and/or his possible co-conspirator Arnelle know where the ring is. Whatever happened to Beardsley being ordered to hand it over?

I think whatever influence Simpson had over Prody was broken when he was sent to the pokey. She was crying in the courtroom but my guess is that after he'd been gone for a while she realized she could make it without him.

[William Anthony]

Ms. Prody's relevance is significant only in that it offers some insight into the kind of person Simpson is and what he may have confided to her. I don't think anyone here thinks she's a saint. She made her choices but Simpson got his hooks into her when she was young and impressionable just like he did Nicole. It's very hard to break away from someone when they dominate your life to such a degree. Look at kidnap victims that stay with their captors for years under more horrendous conditons even though they had many opportunities to escape...Shawn Hornbeck and Jaycee Dugard come to mind. I don't know what kind of person she really is or if she's truly changed her life around but her but for her sake and her child's I hope she has.

Before someone says I'm likening the situation of Simpson and Prody to kidnapper and victim -- I'm not.

It certainly sounds like a comparison, "It's very hard to break away from someone when they dominate your life to such a degree. Look at kidnap victims that stay with their captors for years under more horrendous conditons even though they had many opportunities to escape...Shawn Hornbeck and Jaycee Dugard come to mind." :shrug:

[William Anthony]

I'm glad you mentioned the ring...I had forgotten about it. I'm sure she and/or his possible co-conspirator Arnelle know where the ring is. Whatever happened to Beardsley being ordered to hand it over?

I think whatever influence Simpson had over Prody was broken when he was sent to the pokey. She was crying in the courtroom but my guess is that after he'd been gone for a while she realized she could make it without him.

Or realized she had to and enter the next person. Didn't she get married?

[weezer]

I'm glad you mentioned the ring...I had forgotten about it. I'm sure she and/or his possible co-conspirator Arnelle know where the ring is. Whatever happened to Beardsley being ordered to hand it over?

I think whatever influence Simpson had over Prody was broken when he was sent to the pokey. She was crying in the courtroom but my guess is that after he'd been gone for a while she realized she could make it without him.

I think there maybe quite a bit to learn from Ms Prody about the simpsons --

as I recall, it was arnelle that daddy wanted to call beardsley and talk to him about the armed robbery. you don't suppose daddy was pi.......nah. but on the tape orenthal tells arnelle to ask christie -- that she would know where it is. I've seen discussion that the 'it' was beardsley phone number but I believe it is just as reasonable to think that the 'it' was the ring that beardsley said orenthal promised him.

we know that arnelle was giving orenthal advice on how to handle himself when he beat Nicole. I've always believed it was arnelle that sent the maid out to the police car to try to pull Nicole out. I've also always wondered why the maid didn't call anyone for help or why arnelle didn't intervene.

[William Anthony]

Anyone know if California has or had a good Samaritan law? If Ms. Arnelle gets a phone call, she must be committing a crime. Smile, Wink, Cool. I forgot in some circumstances she is accused of committing a crime without having received a phone call, Smile, Wink, Cool.

[tv]

I think there maybe quite a bit to learn from Ms Prody about the simpsons --

as I recall, it was arnelle that daddy wanted to call beardsley and talk to him about the armed robbery. you don't suppose daddy was pi.......nah. but on the tape orenthal tells arnelle to ask christie -- that she would know where it is. I've seen discussion that the 'it' was beardsley phone number but I believe it is just as reasonable to think that the 'it' was the ring that beardsley said orenthal promised him.

we know that arnelle was giving orenthal advice on how to handle himself when he beat Nicole. I've always believed it was arnelle that sent the maid out to the police car to try to pull Nicole out. I've also always wondered why the maid didn't call anyone for help or why arnelle didn't intervene.
I've always thought something was very odd about the maid, Michelle. She seemed to be much more than an employee. Kato testified that from day one that he moved in she kept telling him that Simpson wanted him out. According to Kato's testimony, Simpson told him that he would decide when he wanted Kato to leave, not Michelle. I read testimony somewhere the other day where Simpson and Michelle's close relationship was brought up. I'll have to see if I can find it. Imo, Michelle would have never called anyone to help Nicole and neither would Arnelle.

[weezer]

I've always thought something was very odd about the maid, Michelle. She seemed to be much more than an employee. Kato testified that from day one that he moved in she kept telling him that Simpson wanted him out. According to Kato's testimony, Simpson told him that he would decide when he wanted Kato to leave, not Michelle. I read testimony somewhere the other day where Simpson and Michelle's close relationship was brought up. I'll have to see if I can find it. Imo, Michelle would have never called anyone to help Nicole and neither would Arnelle.

what in the world was that maid thinking? Nicole is getting the cr@p beat out of her, runs to the maid's room, the maid does NOTHING to intervene, and then that POS maid tries to pull Nicole out of the safety of the police car and back into that house -- good grief. and arnelle is telling daddy that he needs to leave because it would be bad for his reputation! no wonder Nicole wanted away from them. my goodness - what a warped world they lived/live in. . .:eek:

[tv]

what in the world was that maid thinking? Nicole is getting the cr@p beat out of her, runs to the maid's room, the maid does NOTHING to intervene, and then that POS maid tries to pull Nicole out of the safety of the police car and back into that house -- good grief. and arnelle is telling daddy that he needs to leave because it would be bad for his reputation! no wonder Nicole wanted away from them. my goodness - what a warped world they lived/live in. . .:eek:

Imo, the maid had the warmies for the juice. :eek: As for Arnelle, we know where her undying loyalty has always been. Let's not forget that she was the brainchild behind the "If I Did It" book and recruited her siblings to participate even though two of them are the children of the woman whose death is made light of in the book. Dysfunctional barely begins to describe this family.

[William Anthony]

I've always thought something was very odd about the maid, Michelle. She seemed to be much more than an employee. Kato testified that from day one that he moved in she kept telling him that Simpson wanted him out. According to Kato's testimony, Simpson told him that he would decide when he wanted Kato to leave, not Michelle. I read testimony somewhere the other day where Simpson and Michelle's close relationship was brought up. I'll have to see if I can find it. Imo, Michelle would have never called anyone to help Nicole and neither would Arnelle.

Why didn't kato call for help, since he was friends with Ms. NBS? I guess Michelle did not find Kato charming. :);):cool:

[William Anthony]

what in the world was that maid thinking? Nicole is getting the cr@p beat out of her, runs to the maid's room, the maid does NOTHING to intervene, and then that POS maid tries to pull Nicole out of the safety of the police car and back into that house -- good grief. and arnelle is telling daddy that he needs to leave because it would be bad for his reputation! no wonder Nicole wanted away from them. my goodness - what a warped world they lived/live in. . .:eek:

Link please?

[weezer]

Imo, the maid had the warmies for the juice. :eek: As for Arnelle, we know where her undying loyalty has always been. Let's not forget that she was the brainchild behind the "If I Did It" book and recruited her siblings to participate even though two of them are the children of the woman whose death is made light of in the book. Dysfunctional barely begins to describe this family.

I think most people in orenthal's life were seduced by his celebrity status. Nicole understood that and predicted that her friends would sell her out in the end. I think kato moving to orenthal's was seen by Nicole as a betrayal. Faye willing to go to a charity whatever with orenthal was seen by Nicole as a betrayal. How sad it would have been for her to witness the rest of them --- cora, who was Nicole's self-proclaimed best friend. It seems the people whose lives he touched always came out on the losing end of the deal. what an evil (you might even say psychotic) mind to have thought of the premise of writing that book. Good Gawd!

[tv]

I think most people in orenthal's life were seduced by his celebrity status. Nicole understood that and predicted that her friends would sell her out in the end. I think kato moving to orenthal's was seen by Nicole as a betrayal. Faye willing to go to a charity whatever with orenthal was seen by Nicole as a betrayal. How sad it would have been for her to witness the rest of them --- cora, who was Nicole's self-proclaimed best friend. It seems the people whose lives he touched always came out on the losing end of the deal. what an evil (you might even say psychotic) mind to have thought of the premise of writing that book. Good Gawd!

I think Nicole was one of the few who wasn't impressed with the celebrity life style. I'm sure she liked the money -- who wouldn't? As far as getting a thrill from rubbing elbows with famous people she just didn't seem to be into it. I think they all betrayed her -- some worse than others. I liked Kato but he was definitely looking out for himself by moving to Rockingham. Cora was just a snake in the grass as I've said before. Even the ones that didn't overtly betray her didn't stand up to Simpson before or during the trial and accuse him of killing her even though one of her friends that attended the funeral said it was 'understood' by those at the funeral (or maybe the wake) that he had killed her.

[weezer]

I think Nicole was one of the few who wasn't impressed with the celebrity life style. I'm sure she liked the money -- who wouldn't? As far as getting a thrill from rubbing elbows with famous people she just didn't seem to be into it. I think they all betrayed her -- some worse than others. I liked Kato but he was definitely looking out for himself by moving to Rockingham. Cora was just a snake in the grass as I've said before. Even the ones that didn't overtly betray her didn't stand up to Simpson before or during the trial and accuse him of killing her even though one of her friends that attended the funeral said it was 'understood' by those at the funeral (or maybe the wake) that he had killed her.

I watched a part of the kardashian show one night where mom was talking about the rift in the family during the trial. very, very sad.

[tv]

I watched a part of the kardashian show one night where mom was talking about the rift in the family during the trial. very, very sad.

So many people were affected by the murders and I'm sure some still suffer today. Sydney and Justin appear happy and well-adjusted but losing your mother in that horrific way has to affect them in some way. It's very sad.

[William Anthony]

I think most people in orenthal's life were seduced by his celebrity status. Nicole understood that and predicted that her friends would sell her out in the end. I think kato moving to orenthal's was seen by Nicole as a betrayal. Faye willing to go to a charity whatever with orenthal was seen by Nicole as a betrayal. How sad it would have been for her to witness the rest of them --- cora, who was Nicole's self-proclaimed best friend. It seems the people whose lives he touched always came out on the losing end of the deal. what an evil (you might even say psychotic) mind to have thought of the premise of writing that book. Good Gawd!

It seems that those he touched were eager and willing to be touched.

[GreenIce]

Why didn't kato call for help, since he was friends with Ms. NBS? I guess Michelle did not find Kato charming. :);):cool:

William,

IMO, the most likely person who called 911 was the maid and she was probably was calling it because of Nicole. Never did the operator hear Nicole cry out for help, never did the operator say it was Nicole who called and we know that Nicole is not shy about calling police.

Also, she never heard a man's voice. We all know that Simpson rants and raves. IMO, we would have heard Simpson's voice.

However, you do bring up an interesting point, why didn't Kato call the police, if not the 1993 incident but after Simpson left for the airport?

[William Anthony]

William,

IMO, the most likely person who called 911 was the maid and she was probably was calling it because of Nicole. Never did the operator hear Nicole cry out for help, never did the operator say it was Nicole who called and we know that Nicole is not shy about calling police.

Also, she never heard a man's voice. We all know that Simpson rants and raves. IMO, we would have heard Simpson's voice.

However, you do bring up an interesting point, why didn't Kato call the police, if not the 1993 incident but after Simpson left for the airport?

GreenIce,

I truly did not listen to or consider highly the information in regard to the alleged incidents of domestic violence, since it was not evidence in my mind that would have the tendency to show whether or not Simpson was guilty.

[GreenIce]

GreenIce,

I truly did not listen to or consider highly the information in regard to the alleged incidents of domestic violence, since it was not evidence in my mind that would have the tendency to show whether or not Simpson was guilty.

William,

I agree that the DV motive was very weak and to this day, I think they only used that motive because they did not want to go any where near a crime of passion. To me, that would have been the most obvious motive and I think they would have have better luck with it.

However, I think it is important to remember that Nicole was not afraid to call the police and when they did respond, they did take action. I also think that is important to pay attention to the details because when you do, the DV motive proves to be even weaker.

IMO, people only hear what they want to hear and refuse to look at the whole picture. Again, IMO.

[William Anthony]

William,

I agree that the DV motive was very weak and to this day, I think they only used that motive because they did not want to go any where near a crime of passion. To me, that would have been the most obvious motive and I think they would have have better luck with it.

However, I think it is important to remember that Nicole was not afraid to call the police and when they did respond, they did take action. I also think that is important to pay attention to the details because when you do, the DV motive proves to be even weaker.

IMO, people only hear what they want to hear and refuse to look at the whole picture. Again, IMO.

GreenIce,

You are quite correct but I never believed that a spousal abuser made a murderer.

[weezer]

"O.J. Simpson‘s daughter, Sydney, is apparently worried about her little brother, Justin, who feels abandoned now that his dad is in jail. The 21-year-old recently got tattoos on each of his wrists with the dates of his mother’s birth and death. According to a source, “Though he believes that his father murdered his mother, O.J. was all he had…Justin feels abandoned by the world, and he’s crying out in pain.” How could this boy not be a mess—his life is a story not even the National Enquirer could make up. [National Enquirer]"

wonder if it was not more of a declaration? ;)

[weezer]

http://www.nationalenquirer.com/oj_simpson_nuts_suicide_watch/crime/63507

O.J. SIMPSON ON SUICIDE WATCH
“Severely depressed and despondent” O.J. Simpson landed back on suicide watch at Lovelock Correctional Center, The ENQUIRER has learned exclusively.

The disgraced football hero is serving nine to 33 years at the Nevada institution for his involvement in the gunpoint heist of his own memorabilia from a Las Vegas hotel room. But he just can’t stand doing prison time!

A distraught O.J. fell apart Sept. 4 after the Nevada Supreme Court denied his request to be freed pending a decision on his conviction appeal.

The court feared the Heisman Trophy winner was a flight risk. “O.J. was absolutely crushed after his motion was denied,” revealed a close source. “He was on the phone after getting the news, and the call was being monitored.

“O.J. was upset and really emotional. He was almost crying! Suddenly, he blurted into the phone that he ‘didn’t have a reason to live anymore.’ He said, ‘I might as well kill myself.’ ”

Guards overheard the conversation and escorted O.J. to the psych ward at the prison hospital, said the source. “O.J. was formally put on suicide watch and given a bed in the psych ward.”

The 62-year-old athlete-turned-felon was released from the mental health unit on Sept. 8 after four days."

[weezer]

http://www.orangecoastmagazine.com/article2.aspx?id=17297

Editor’s Letter

By Martin J. Smith

Let’s not use the results of Orange Coast’s 35th anniversary cover popularity contest as a zeitgeist barometer. What, after all, should we conclude from results indicating that our cover of O.J. Simpson (before all the unpleasantness) was three times as popular as the one of actor-philanthropist Paul Newman?

God help us if that means something. . .

2. O.J. Simpson (July 1986): The perversity of it jumps out at you, like someone in the dark. Wearing gloves. Nearly 18 percent of the voters found it our most compelling cover ever. O.J. remains impossible to ignore, try as we might. . ."

[tv]

"O.J. Simpson‘s daughter, Sydney, is apparently worried about her little brother, Justin, who feels abandoned now that his dad is in jail. The 21-year-old recently got tattoos on each of his wrists with the dates of his mother’s birth and death. According to a source, “Though he believes that his father murdered his mother, O.J. was all he had…Justin feels abandoned by the world, and he’s crying out in pain.” How could this boy not be a mess—his life is a story not even the National Enquirer could make up. [National Enquirer]"

wonder if it was not more of a declaration? ;)

Twenty-one is an adult but at that age he still needs a parent. If OJ Simpson has been thinking of anyone but himself he'd still be in Florida with his family. I'm not too surprised he wasn't thinking of his kids when he went into the Palace Station -- he wasn't thinking of them when he left Ron and Nicole lying dead for them to find. :shrug:

A declaration? No doubt.

[Hotwater]

New thread started for Nicole Brown Simpson discussion.

[William Anthony]

Thank you Hotwater but I think that a note of caution should be added to the discussion on that thread for all that glitters is not gold and there are likely to be some comments that may no be to flattering of Ms, NBS. I think the title calls for discussion of pros and cons. JMHO.

[weezer]

DA given time to respond to OJ co-defendant appeal
By KEN RITTER Associated Press Writer
Posted: 09/30/2009 12:09:28 PM PDT
Updated: 09/30/2009 12:09:29 PM PDT

LAS VEGAS—The Nevada Supreme Court is giving prosecutors until Oct. 16 to answer an appeal by convicted O.J. Simpson co-defendant Clarence "C.J." Stewart.
Documents show the state high court granted the extension Friday.

Chief Justice James Hardesty cited unspecified "extreme and unforeseeable circumstances" following the Clark County district attorney's Sept. 15 request.

Stewart's lawyer had opposed the extension, accusing prosecutors of paying more attention to Simpson's appeal that Stewart's.

Prosecutors answered Simpson's appeal Sept. 11.

Stewart wants the high court to overturn his conviction in an armed hotel room heist, claiming he suffered "spillover prejudice" from being tried with the former NFL football star.

Stewart also claims evidence was improperly used against him, and that the jury foreman hid a bias toward Simpson until after the pair were convicted and sentenced.

http://www.mercurynews.com/news/ci_13453786?nclick_check=1#

[weezer]

O.J. Simpson was acquitted on this day in 1995

3 October 2009 | 00:02 | FOCUS News Agency

:cuss: :punch: O.J. Simpson was acquitted on this day in 1995. At the end of a sensational trial, former football star O.J. Simpson is acquitted of the brutal 1994 double murder of his estranged wife, Nicole Brown Simpson, and her friend, Ronald Goldman. In the epic 252-day trial, Simpson's "dream team" of lawyers employed creative and controversial methods to convince jurors that Simpson's guilt had not been proved "beyond a reasonable doubt," thus surmounting what the prosecution called a "mountain of evidence" implicating him as the murderer.

http://www.focus-fen.net/index.php?id=n196111

[weezer]

In 1989, O.J. Simpson Could Laugh About Run-Ins With the Cops
Posted Sep 30, 2009 9:00AM By Michael David Smith

http://backporch.fanhouse.com/2009/09/30/in-1989-o-j-simpson-could-laugh-about-run-ins-with-the-cops/#

[Its just me]

If this has been posted I haven't seen it. Talking about Krama. Looks like OJ is getting a taste of what Nicole went thru being afraid OJ was going to kill her.

http://www.nationalenquirer.com/oj_terrified_cellmate_will_murder_him/crime/63500

O.J. TERRIFIED CELLMATE WILL MURDER HIM
O.J. Simpson is scared to death his prison cellmate is plotting to kill him, The ENQUIRER has learned exclusively.

In a fit of panic, the fallen football star — who’s serving 9 to 33 years at Nevada’s Lovelock Correctional Center — called a close friend, shouting that the inmate sharing his cell wants to strangle him.

“I’ve never known O.J. to be so scared,” the friend told The ENQUIRER. “He’s terrified of his cellmate. O.J. says the guy is a murderer and a rapist, and he can’t believe prison officials have put such a man in with him.

“The guy in O.J.’s cell has been there for months. O.J. says he has become increasingly menacing.”

O.J. says his cellmate glares at him most of the day. He told his close friend he fears bedtime because “he’s told me he is going to strangle me in my sleep the first chance he gets.”

Simpson’s pal, concerned after talking to O.J., placed a call to prison administrators and was shocked at what he learned.

Pick up this week's issue of The ENQUIRER for more details!

[weezer]

"Jerrianne Hayslett: The courts and the media
The former information officer for the Los Angeles Superior Courts talks about the O.J. Simpson case and the relationship between judges, reporters and the public.
October 3, 2009

Fourteen years ago today -- shock and awe. After 16 tawdry months of the Simpson case wallpapering the public square, a Los Angeles criminal court jury found O.J. Simpson not guilty of the hideous murders of his ex-wife, Nicole, and her friend, Ron Goldman. . ."

http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/commentary/la-oe-morrison3-2009oct03,0,1524813.story

[weezer]

Judge’s lawyer husband accused of domestic battery
By Jeff German (contact)

Friday, Oct. 2, 2009 | 5:02 p.m.

District Court Judge Stefany Miley presides over a sentencing in August at the Regional Justice Center.

Edward Miley
The husband of District Judge Stefany Miley was arrested late Thursday on a domestic battery charge following a disturbance at the couple's home.

Edward R. Miley, a lawyer who represented one of the defendants in the O.J. Simpson robbery case, was taken into custody sometime after Metro Police arrived at the scene about 9 p.m., according to a police report obtained by the Sun. . .

http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2009/oct/02/judges-lawyer-husband-accused-domestic-battery/

[weezer]

I caught part of TruTV "Inside American Jail" last night and guess what I got to see? our very own orenthal being put into the center in Las Vegas (2nd time). The ironic part was the number of the cell where he was housed: #32 :eek: Guess he wouldn't consider that his lucky number anymore.

first clip is him getting there:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8W127m8DJc

and this is the one shown on trutv:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XC9vFdOjPU0&NR=1&feature=fvwp

[socaldiva]

I caught part of TruTV "Inside American Jail" last night and guess what I got to see? our very own orenthal being put into the center in Las Vegas (2nd time). The ironic part was the number of the cell where he was housed: #32 :eek: Guess he wouldn't consider that his lucky number anymore.

first clip is him getting there:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8W127m8DJc

and this is the one shown on trutv:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XC9vFdOjPU0&NR=1&feature=fvwp

Thanks so much for the clips. I noticed that Orenthal was still wearing a visor. :tongue:

[weezer]

Thanks so much for the clips. I noticed that Orenthal was still wearing a visor. :tongue:

you know what a fashion trend setter he is! :tongue:

[tv]

you know what a fashion trend setter he is! :tongue:

I especially noticed the ugly-a** orange socks. :)

[weezer]

I especially noticed the ugly-a** orange socks. :)

ha -- I could not get over his babbling on and on -- telling them how nice they treated him before and how professional and courteous they all have been. Oh wait -- you don't think he was worried about the fact that he was willing to use lies, innuendo, and character assassinations do you to destroy? :eek:

[tv]

ha -- I could not get over his babbling on and on -- telling them how nice they treated him before and how professional and courteous they all have been. Oh wait -- you don't think he was worried about the fact that he was willing to use lies, innuendo, and character assassinations do you to destroy? :eek:

I'd say that's a good possibility. :)

[Its just me]

I especially noticed the ugly-a** orange socks. :)


Now that's funny. And them ugly-a** bedroom shoes or what ever they were. Wonder if they were a brand name. ;)

[weezer]

Now that's funny. And them ugly-a** bedroom shoes or what ever they were. Wonder if they were a brand name. ;)

if they weren't before, they could be now. we can just start calling them orenthal's orange BM's. :tongue:

[Its just me]

if they weren't before, they could be now. we can just start calling them orenthal's orange BM's. :tongue:

:beer: Too Too Funny. Maybe we could start a business and help the economy but OJ would have to be left out of all deals....he likes fake Corporations. :eek:

[weezer]

DA asks court to reject OJ co-defendant appeal
AP - Fri Oct 16, 8:53 pm ET

O.J. Simpson's convicted co-defendant got a fair trial and wasn't a victim of "spillover prejudice" as he alleges in his appeal, a prosecutor told the Nevada Supreme Court on Friday.

[weezer]

Oct. 17, 2009
Copyright © Las Vegas Review-Journal

Dismissal of appeal urged for Simpson co-defendant

By KEN RITTER
THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
O.J. Simpson Trial
O.J. Simpson's convicted co-defendant got a fair trial and wasn't a victim of "spillover prejudice" as he alleges in his appeal, a prosecutor told the state Supreme Court on Friday.

"A defendant 'is not entitled to a perfect trial, but only a fair trial,' " wrote Clark County District Attorney David Roger, citing state and federal case law supporting his position that Clarence "C.J." Stewart should remain in prison for his role in a September 2007 armed hotel room heist.

Stewart's lawyer, Brent Bryson, did not respond to a message seeking comment.

Bryson still has a chance to answer the district attorney's 46-page response to Stewart's initial request for the court to overturn Stewart's conviction.

The former Simpson golfing buddy claims he should have been tried separately from the football star, whose acquittal in the 1994 slayings of his ex-wife Nicole Brown Simpson and her friend Ron Goldman in Los Angeles was dubbed the "trial of the century."

Stewart also maintains that evidence was improperly used against him, and that the jury foreman hid a bias toward Simpson until after the pair were convicted and sentenced.

"Only if this court is willing to concede that Simpson's name alone renders a fair trial impossible can Stewart's claim of prejudice warrant consideration," the district attorney said.

"Here, Stewart received a fair trial," Roger said. "All the errors alleged in Stewart's (appeal) are without merit and do not warrant a reversal of Stewart's convictions."

Simpson and Stewart were each found guilty of kidnapping, armed robbery and other charges last year in the armed confrontation with two sports memorabilia dealers in a Palace Station hotel room.

Simpson maintained he was trying to retrieve personal mementoes, family photos and items that had been stolen from him.

Simpson, 62, is serving nine to 33 years at Lovelock Correctional Center, 90 miles northeast of Reno. His appeal is being considered separately.

Stewart, 55, is serving 71/2 to 27 years at Northern Nevada Correctional Center in Carson City. He has lost repeated efforts before, during and after trial to have his case severed from Simpson's.

[weezer]

wow -- I just did the math -- orenthal will be 75 when he's up for his first consideration for parole. :eek:

[weezer]

DA asks court to reject OJ co-defendant appeal
AP - Fri Oct 16, 8:53 pm ET

O.J. Simpson's convicted co-defendant got a fair trial and wasn't a victim of "spillover prejudice" as he alleges in his appeal, a prosecutor told the Nevada Supreme Court on Friday.

if anyone finds link(s) to the arguments, please post.

[weezer]

O.J. Simpson's brother was driver of airport shuttle bus in deadly crash

Article from:AP Worldstream Article date:February 16, 2005 Copyright Provided by ProQuest LLC.
Dateline: SAN FRANCISCO

O.J. Simpson's older brother was the driver of an airport shuttle bus that crashed on a freeway, killing a passenger, authorities said.

Melvin Leon Simpson, 58, may have fallen asleep at the wheel before the bus struck a guard rail Friday and veered into a concrete support column, according to the California Highway Patrol.

Simpson was near the end of his eight-hour shift and suffering flulike symptoms when the 21-seat van crashed, killing 57-year-old Lynne de Matties of Phoenix, CHP officials said. Six other passengers were injured.

At first, Simpson told investigators the dead woman was a homeless person who had wandered onto the freeway. ...

http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1P1-105437575.html

[weezer]

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2005/02/15/BAGU1BB0I01.DTL

I understand he was charged , and found guilty, and lost his license and job.

[socaldiva]

*snip*

At first, Simpson told investigators the dead woman was a homeless person who had wandered onto the freeway. ...



Another Simpson without regard for a woman's life. This Simpson kills the poor woman in the crash & tries to put the blame on her?. Gee, that sure sounds familiar.

[weezer]

In a Cold, Skeptical World, O.J. Simpson Found Someone Who Believed in Him: Washington Mutual
By Mark Fefer in Books & Authors, Business, Seattle Times Monday, Oct. 26 2009 @ 8:03AM

​It's been two years since the Seattle business known locally as "the friend of the family," and known nationally for serving up mortgages to anyone who could be propped up in a chair and made to scrawl something resembling a signature, became better known as the biggest catastrophic bank failure of recent history. And picking through the disastrous legacy of currently un-indicted, former CEO Kerry Killinger continues to yield great goods for enterprising journalists.

The New York Times made its run at a big, front-page, Sunday "reckoning" last December. But now our Times has weighed in with a far better, more comprehensive, more understandable piece. At 3,000 words, it's also unusually brisk and compact by SeaTimes flag-waving, investigative standards. (Part 2 appears today.) It's well worth a read. But in case you're too busy, say, trying to rent out 7,000 square feet of office space in downtown Seattle, we'll give you the choicest nugget that sums up the whole glorious Wamu enterprise.

The Times reports that Wamu's longtime chief legal officer began to think something might be amiss in early 2007, when she learned the following:

"Someone in Florida had made a second-mortgage loan to O.J. Simpson, and I just about blew my top, because there was this huge judgment against him from his wife's parents," she recalled. Simpson had been acquitted of killing his wife Nicole and her friend but was later found liable for their deaths in a civil lawsuit; that judgment took precedence over other debts, such as if Simpson defaulted on his WaMu loan.

"When I asked how we could possibly foreclose on it, they said there was a letter in the file from O.J. Simpson saying 'the judgment is no good, because I didn't do it.' "

It's actually kind of heartwarming. Even while a company as shameless as News Corp. found itself too embarrassed to publish Simpson's book, If I Did It, at that same moment, the broad-minded loan officers at WaMu were willing to give the Juice the benefit of the doubt. Isn't that exactly what "friends" are for?"

http://blogs.seattleweekly.com/dailyweekly/2009/10/in_a_cold_skeptical_world_oj_s.php

[tv]

In a Cold, Skeptical World, O.J. Simpson Found Someone Who Believed in Him: Washington Mutual
By Mark Fefer in Books & Authors, Business, Seattle Times Monday, Oct. 26 2009 @ 8:03AM

*snipped*
​

The Times reports that Wamu's longtime chief legal officer began to think something might be amiss in early 2007, when she learned the following:

"Someone in Florida had made a second-mortgage loan to O.J. Simpson, and I just about blew my top, because there was this huge judgment against him from his wife's parents," she recalled. Simpson had been acquitted of killing his wife Nicole and her friend but was later found liable for their deaths in a civil lawsuit; that judgment took precedence over other debts, such as if Simpson defaulted on his WaMu loan.

"When I asked how we could possibly foreclose on it, they said there was a letter in the file from O.J. Simpson saying 'the judgment is no good, because I didn't do it.' "

It's actually kind of heartwarming. Even while a company as shameless as News Corp. found itself too embarrassed to publish Simpson's book, If I Did It, at that same moment, the broad-minded loan officers at WaMu were willing to give the Juice the benefit of the doubt. Isn't that exactly what "friends" are for?"

http://blogs.seattleweekly.com/dailyweekly/2009/10/in_a_cold_skeptical_world_oj_s.php

It would appear the chief legal officer of WaMu disagreed with the poster who claims the judgement had nothing to do with the mortgage because of Simpson's income. "the judgement is no good because I didn't do it..." I laugh everytime I read it. :D

[weezer]

Looks like another good book -- :beer:

Mark Fuhrman Goes Into 'The Murder Business'

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,565842,00.html

[tv]

Looks like another good book -- :beer:

Mark Fuhrman Goes Into 'The Murder Business'

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,565842,00.html

Interesting interview...I think the books going to be good! :beer: