O.J. In The News Again

[William Anthony]

we can try.many others try.

What do you think of this for an opening? As he stood transfixed, he could not believe his good luck. The voice on the phone told him that he would be investigating his own crime. How fortuitous-this would provide him with the perfect opportunity to plant the murder weapon. As he headed toward the door, his smile to his partner, Bob Robus, hid the evilness within his soul and the horrifying crime he had committed. I think we must collaborate through pms after this. :)

[tv]

What do you think of this for an opening? As he stood transfixed, he could not believe his good luck. The voice on the phone told him that he would be investigating his own crime. How fortuitous-this would provide him with the perfect opportunity to plant the murder weapon. As he headed toward the door, his smile to his partner, Bob Robus, hid the evilness within his soul and the horrifying crime he had committed. I think we must collaborate through pms after this. :)

oooh, just like fan-fiction! Have you ever checked out those sites? You'd fit right in, William. :)

[William Anthony]

oooh, just like fan-fiction! Have you ever checked out those sites? You'd fit right in, William. :)

As you know, I am not a great proponent of works of fiction. However, I am in favor of the American Dream being available to all-ching, ching, $ $ $ bills. :)

[tv]

As you know, I am not a great proponent of works of fiction. However, I am in favor of the American Dream being available to all-ching, ching, $ $ $ bills. :)Aww...here I thought you were writing the Great American Novel...my mistake. By the way, William, the American dream is available to all Americans...rejoice and celebrate this wonderful time in our nation's history. If I didn't know better I'd think your happiness at Mr. Obama being elected is dampened by the huge void it leaves you in the complaints-about-inequality department. Change is good. :)

[William Anthony]

Aww...here I thought you were writing the Great American Novel...my mistake. By the way, William, the American dream is available to all Americans...rejoice and celebrate this wonderful time in our nation's history. If I didn't know better I'd think your happiness at Mr. Obama being elected is dampened by the huge void it leaves you in the complaints-about-inequality department. Change is good. :)

Change is wonderful but dollars are better. The American Dream is not available to all, especially women. I will and do celebrate this momentous occasion in America's history but realize that, while much has been done, there is much left to do. Don't worry about the void. So long as there are women among us, which I hope there will always be, I can find something to complain about. :)

[tv]

Change is wonderful but dollars are better. The American Dream is not available to all, especially women. I will and do celebrate this momentous occasion in America's history but realize that, while much has been done, there is much left to do. Don't worry about the void. So long as there are women among us, which I hope there will always be, I can find something to complain about. :)

The American Dream is there for anyone with the desire to grab a piece of it. You might think about working on your own biased attitude toward women -- it's so unbecoming of you to continue to characterize us as annoyances for you to complain about. :rolleyes: I don't feel like I've been treated as less of a person because I'm a woman...that must be coming from some of your feminazi associates...perhaps the lovely Ms. Chi? :)

[martin II]

What do you think of this for an opening? As he stood transfixed, he could not believe his good luck. The voice on the phone told him that he would be investigating his own crime. How fortuitous-this would provide him with the perfect opportunity to plant the murder weapon. As he headed toward the door, his smile to his partner, Bob Robus, hid the evilness within his soul and the horrifying crime he had committed. I think we must collaborate through pms after this. :)

I am sure the above will get you a down payment from a publisher.

[Kayleighjo]

I just thought that, if others can write books based on speculation about what may have happened and make money, perhaps, martin and I could engage in an entrepreneurial relationship.

I'm sure every juror on the Simpson criminal case will run right out to buy it. Afterward they can squawk like crazy about how they were right all along.

[weezer]

December 1, 2008
O.J. Simpson’s co-defendant speaks out
Posted: 12:48 PM ET
LAS VEGAS, Nevada — It is not every day a journalist is able to sit face to face with someone facing life in prison, so when I received the opportunity to videotape an interview with O.J. Simpson’s co-defendant C.J. Stewart at the the Clark County detention center, my producer and I hopped a flight from New York bound for Las Vegas.



In Session correspondent Jean Casarez with C.J. Stewart at Clark County detention center

Stewart has changed since the October conviction on 12 counts stemming from kidnapping to armed robbery and conspiracy. He now sports a small beard and his once black hair is now sprinkled with silver grey highlights. Stewart is facing life in prison stemming from events that happened the night of September 13, 2007, when Simpson and his group of men went to the Palace Station hotel in Las Vegas to retrieve memorabilia that once belonged to Simpson.

Now, Stewart granted us that rare opportunity to hear from his viewpoint what happened that night and why he believes he has been wrongly convicted. Stewart told me he never knew about the guns that former co-defendants Michael McClinton and Walter Alexander had on them that night. He thinks it’s a 50-50 chance that Simpson asked McClinton and Alexander to bring guns that night.

http://insession.blogs.cnn.com/2008/12/01/oj-simpsons-co-defendant-speaks-out/

[weezer]

". . .Stewart told me he remembers as they all were walking through the Palace Station’s lobby, toward room 1203, someone asked Thomas Riccio if he thought the men waiting in the room had guns. Stewart says those words were still on his mind as he entered the small hotel room and believed he saw victim Bruce Fromong reach for a gun. That’s why he said he initially walked towards Fromong in the room with plans to take the gun away. When I asked Stewart why he continued participating in the altercation when McClinton pulled out a gun, he told me he didn’t see it, and if he had, he would have taken it away from McClinton. . ."

okay -- sorry -- but this guy ought to get off just for being stupid or locked up for life for thinking everyone else is. . .

he thought Fromong was reaching for a gun so he walked over to him to take it away! LOL -- made me think of the old saying "He brought a gun to a knife fight"

[William Anthony]

The American Dream is there for anyone with the desire to grab a piece of it. You might think about working on your own biased attitude toward women -- it's so unbecoming of you to continue to characterize us as annoyances for you to complain about. :rolleyes: I don't feel like I've been treated as less of a person because I'm a woman...that must be coming from some of your feminazi associates...perhaps the lovely Ms. Chi? :)

I am glad that you feel like you have not been treated as less than a person. However, that has very little to do with equality. Women, except for Black Women, have always been treated as people. I complain that there is not equality for women. However, if you are satisfied, then perhaps you have reached that level of the American Dream that suits you and you can no longer empathize with those of your gender who are not. I respect your wishes to feel that you are equal and look for you to run, win the nomination for and be elected the First Female President. I know you have the authoritative qualities to hold the position. :)

[William Anthony]

I'm sure every juror on the Simpson criminal case will run right out to buy it. Afterward they can squawk like crazy about how they were right all along.

Ms. Kayleighjo,

They were right all along, without our book. The prosecution failed to prove its case beyond a reasonable doubt, which I think you admitted, and that equals not guilty. :)

[Kayleighjo]

Ms. Kayleighjo,

They were right all along, without our book. The prosecution failed to prove its case beyond a reasonable doubt, which I think you admitted, and that equals not guilty. :)

When did I admit that?

[William Anthony]

When did I admit that?

IIRC, it was not too long ago and you said that you thought there was enough evidence later to support conviction. I think it was in a discussion about the verdicts. I may be wrong but we can look to see. I stand corrected after a quick search.

[weezer]

read where TruTV is going to carry the sentencing

[martin II]

read where TruTV is going to carry the sentencing

Have you secured your ticket to be in vegas and in the court room when sentencing is given??

[weezer]

Have you secured your ticket to be in vegas and in the court room when sentencing is given??

nah -- I'd have to sit behind him and wouldn't get to see the look on his face. I'm going to watch on tv. how about you? do you have a support group to be with you during this trauma?

[martin II]

nah -- I'd have to sit behind him and wouldn't get to see the look on his face. I'm going to watch on tv. how about you? do you have a support group to be with you during this trauma?

Most know oj is getting the shaft so it is a done deal as far as i am concerned.You seem to be all bent out of shape about it.

[weezer]

Most know oj is getting the shaft so it is a done deal as far as i am concerned.You seem to be all bent out of shape about it.

actually, MOST know that orenthal is getting what he deserves. he commited a crime and he is going to pay for it. the only'bent out of shape' I am about it is me doubling over in laughter at the thought of him whiling away his time in prison -- away from the good life he thinks he's entitled to. but I wouldn't worry too much about him if I were you, remember, the acorn doesn't fall far from the tree -- he may actually enjoy his time there.

[weezer]

Most know oj is getting the shaft so it is a done deal as far as i am concerned.You seem to be all bent out of shape about it.

hey, I was wondering, do you call orenthal BO too? :eek:

[weezer]

Lawyer: OJ, co-defendant face 18 years
By KEN RITTER Associated Press Writer
Posted: 12/02/2008 04:36:01 PM PST

LAS VEGAS—O.J. Simpson and a co-defendant face a recommended 18 years in prison in the gunpoint robbery and kidnapping of two sports memorabilia dealers, according to defense briefs and Simpson's lawyer.
Defense lawyers for the former football star and co-defendant Clarence "C.J" Stewart filed briefs Tuesday asking Clark County District Court Judge Jackie Glass for minimum prison terms when she sentences the two men Friday.

"If the judge chooses minimum sentences but runs them consecutively it would total 18 years," Simpson lawyer Gabriel Grasso said after filing an 11-page defense brief in response to a state Parole and Probation Division sentencing recommendation.

"We would like the judge to take our recommendation to heart and sentence (Simpson) to the minimum, six years," Grasso said.

Glass is not bound by the report and could sentence each of the men to the maximum term of life in prison.

Stewart's lawyer, Brent Bryson, also submitted a brief Tuesday asking the judge to disregard the state's sentencing recommendation.

"Stewart submits that given his minimal participation in the events ... as well as his lack of any prior criminal convictions, that (he) be sentenced to the minimum," Stewart's five-page brief said. . ."

http://www.mercurynews.com/breakingnews/ci_11122075

[martin II]

hey, I was wondering, do you call orenthal BO too? :eek:

No. Oj or Juice is what he is known as.
I have told you why some call Barack Obama BO and that you would not understand so you may as well leave that alone.:cool:

[martin II]

Lawyer: OJ, co-defendant face 18 years
By KEN RITTER Associated Press Writer
Posted: 12/02/2008 04:36:01 PM PST

LAS VEGAS—O.J. Simpson and a co-defendant face a recommended 18 years in prison in the gunpoint robbery and kidnapping of two sports memorabilia dealers, according to defense briefs and Simpson's lawyer.
Defense lawyers for the former football star and co-defendant Clarence "C.J" Stewart filed briefs Tuesday asking Clark County District Court Judge Jackie Glass for minimum prison terms when she sentences the two men Friday.

"If the judge chooses minimum sentences but runs them consecutively it would total 18 years," Simpson lawyer Gabriel Grasso said after filing an 11-page defense brief in response to a state Parole and Probation Division sentencing recommendation.

"We would like the judge to take our recommendation to heart and sentence (Simpson) to the minimum, six years," Grasso said.

Glass is not bound by the report and could sentence each of the men to the maximum term of life in prison.

Stewart's lawyer, Brent Bryson, also submitted a brief Tuesday asking the judge to disregard the state's sentencing recommendation.

"Stewart submits that given his minimal participation in the events ... as well as his lack of any prior criminal convictions, that (he) be sentenced to the minimum," Stewart's five-page brief said. . ."

http://www.mercurynews.com/breakingnews/ci_11122075

History states that most judges give first time criminals the minimum but considrering the objective of the DA, the Nevada system and the judges reputation for being a hard azz, both may get very harsh sentencing.

I was wondering what the sentencing has been on other like cases in Nevada
for other defendants. But then again oj is different as far as the system is concerned.imo

[tv]

actually, MOST know that orenthal is getting what he deserves. he commited a crime and he is going to pay for it. the only'bent out of shape' I am about it is me doubling over in laughter at the thought of him whiling away his time in prison -- away from the good life he thinks he's entitled to. but I wouldn't worry too much about him if I were you, remember, the acorn doesn't fall far from the tree -- he may actually enjoy his time there.

Don't forget he may have had the warmies for James Wood. :eek:

[William Anthony]

Don't forget he may have had the warmies for James Wood. :eek:

Aren't you more apt to find a bush in the woods? :)

[tv]

I am glad that you feel like you have not been treated as less than a person. However, that has very little to do with equality. Women, except for Black Women, have always been treated as people. I complain that there is not equality for women. However, if you are satisfied, then perhaps you have reached that level of the American Dream that suits you and you can no longer empathize with those of your gender who are not. I respect your wishes to feel that you are equal and look for you to run, win the nomination for and be elected the First Female President. I know you have the authoritative qualities to hold the position. :)

I can only speak for my own feelings. All the long suffering black women that you know will have to speak for themselves. I know this will disappoint you but I'm not interested in being the first female president. Speaking of possible female presidents I was hoping that Secretary Rice would run but she chose not to be torn apart by the jackals...too bad for us.

[tv]

Aren't you more apt to find a bush in the woods? :)

Don't tell me you don't know what's in the woods -- you really are a city mouse.

[William Anthony]

I can only speak for my own feelings. All the long suffering black women that you know will have to speak for themselves. I know this will disappoint you but I'm not interested in being the first female president. Speaking of possible female presidents I was hoping that Secretary Rice would run but she chose not to be torn apart by the jackals...too bad for us.

I am sure you wanted Ms. Rice to run but she aligned herself too closely with the Bushes and may have been left out in the woods. Yes, it does disappoint me, because I could not think of any woman more loyal and authoritative than you. I see that you disassociate yourself with the class of woman, correct? :)

[William Anthony]

Don't tell me you don't know what's in the woods -- you really are a city mouse.

I am a city man and do not have any interest in traipsing through the woods.:) There is enough foliage in the city to suit my fancy. :)

[tv]

I am sure you wanted Ms. Rice to run but she aligned herself too closely with the Bushes and may have been left out in the woods. Yes, it does disappoint me, because I could not think of any woman more loyal and authoritative than you. I see that you disassociate yourself with the class of woman, correct? :)

I believe she didn't run because she didn't want her life ripped to shreds by the Democrats but that's water under the bridge and I've moved on.

I'm not sure what you mean by disassociating myself with women...but I'll just add it to the list of Williamisms that make no sense. :shrug:

[tv]

I am a city man and do not have any interest in traipsing through the woods.:) There is enough foliage in the city to suit my fancy. :)Then I suppose your curiosity about what's in the woods will have to remain unsatisfied. :)

[martin II]

I can only speak for my own feelings. All the long suffering black women that you know will have to speak for themselves. I know this will disappoint you but I'm not interested in being the first female president. Speaking of possible female presidents I was hoping that Secretary Rice would run but she chose not to be torn apart by the jackals...too bad for us.

I think Condi Rice realized that eight years with that group was enough and that with the religious right firmly in control of the republican party, she just wanted to get back to Standford since the NFL commissioner job was not available. Great decision by her. imo

But remember she is the one that told the American people that it was possible that we would experience a mushroom cloud if we did not invade Iraq. That was pure BS.IMO

[tv]

I think Condi Rice realized that eight years with that group was enough and that with the religious right firmly in control of the republican party, she just wanted to get back to Standford since the NFL commissioner job was not available. Great decision by her. imo

But remember she is the one that told the American people that it was possible that we would experience a mushroom cloud if we did not invade Iraq. That was pure BS.IMO

You mean like the BS you posted about the ring that Obama didn't give his wife...hahaha.

[William Anthony]

I believe she didn't run because she didn't want her life ripped to shreds by the Democrats but that's water under the bridge and I've moved on.

I'm not sure what you mean by disassociating myself with women...but I'll just add it to the list of Williamisms that make no sense. :shrug:

The williamism was the class of woman. A female must consider herself a disadvantaged woman to align herself with other women who feel disadvantaged.

[William Anthony]

Then I suppose your curiosity about what's in the woods will have to remain unsatisfied. :)

I satisfied my curiosity about what was in the woods, when I was in the service. I prefer the beautiful bouquet of flowers that are found in abundance in the city. :)

[tv]

I satisfied my curiosity about what was in the woods, when I was in the service. I prefer the beautiful bouquet of flowers that are found in abundance in the city. :)Where I live it's not as populated as the city but we prefer quality over quantity.

[William Anthony]

Where I live it's not as populated as the city but we prefer quality over quantity.

Why would you think that one can not have both? A rose by any other name would still smell as sweet. :)

[tv]

Why would you think that one can not have both? A rose by any other name would still smell as sweet. :)

I'm sure that wherever you live you have it all. I'm sure you live in a city unparalleled in the world for it's multi-ethnicity, education, culture, and industry not mention the beautiful flowers. You have quality, quantity and a bag of chips. Did I forget anything?

[William Anthony]

I'm sure that wherever you live you have it all. I'm sure you live in a city unparalleled in the world for it's multi-ethnicity, education, culture, and industry not mention the beautiful flowers. You have quality, quantity and a bag of chips. Did I forget anything?

Yes, you seemed to have missed the idea of technology. Why today a person is not limited to the city in which he resides! A person can visit many cities around the world in a very short time. He can appreciate all types of flowers? We live in a wonderful age, imho. However, in order to fully appreciate those beautiful flowers, a person must have an open heart and a receptive mind, imho, smile.

[tv]

Yes, you seemed to have missed the idea of technology. Why today a person is not limited to the city in which he resides! A person can visit many cities around the world in a very short time. He can appreciate all types of flowers? We live in a wonderful age, imho. However, in order to fully appreciate those beautiful flowers, a person must have an open heart and a receptive mind, imho, smile.Please forgive me for missing technology. I hope your lovely (I'm sure) wife shares your joy of horticulture around the world.

[William Anthony]

Please forgive me for missing technology. I hope your lovely (I'm sure) wife shares your joy of horticulture around the world.

You seem far too worried about what my lovely wife and I enjoy. Although Ms. Chi and I do not always travel in the same circles, on those occasions when we are together we tend to spend more time letting nature take its course than watching it. :)

[tv]

You seem far too worried about what my lovely wife and I enjoy. Although Ms. Chi and I do not always travel in the same circles, on those occasions when we are together we tend to spend more time letting nature take its course than watching it. :)Oops, I thought Ms. Chi was your step-daughter...sorry for getting the family dynamics confused. :confused: Hmm...nature taking it's course...I guess I can stop worrying about you and your lovely wife. It sounds like you have a very fulfilling relationship. :)

[William Anthony]

Oops, I thought Ms. Chi was your step-daughter...sorry for getting the family dynamics confused. :confused: Hmm...nature taking it's course...I guess I can stop worrying about you and your lovely wife. It sounds like you have a very fulfilling relationship. :)

Yes, you are somewhat confused. To my knowledge, my daughter (hate the word step) has not joined any message board. My son did. She doesn't cook enough, but you should not trouble yourself over that. :) I think I understand. Yes, she is younger than I am by some years.

[tv]

Yes, you are somewhat confused. To my knowledge, my daughter (hate the word step) has not joined any message board. My son did. She doesn't cook enough, but you should not trouble yourself over that. :)Thank you for setting me straight. :) I'll try to remember from now on. BTW, I hope you're not wasting away for lack of food. I wouldn't want you to get too weak to hit the keys.

[William Anthony]

Thank you for setting me straight. :) I'll try to remember from now on. BTW, I hope you're not wasting away for lack of food. I wouldn't want you to get too weak to hit the keys.

I will muster the strength as long as you are around and I hope it will be for a long time for both of us. :)

[tv]

I will muster the strength as long as you are around and I hope it will be for a long time for both of us. :)I'm sure it will be unless I get booted off for being politically incorrect. See ya later. :seeya:

[William Anthony]

I'm sure it will be unless I get booted off for being politically incorrect. See ya later. :seeya:

That has not stopped you in the past. I mean you voted for Bush and McCain. :)

[martin II]

You mean like the BS you posted about the ring that Obama didn't give his wife...hahaha.

The ring story was posted on drudge report a well known Republican rag.I made the mistake of believing it was true.Tried to delete but could not.
But that is not the same BS as your Bs. hahaha

[martin II]

That has not stopped you in the past. I mean you voted for Bush and McCain. :)

Both Bushes and Mccain and then announced what she had done.I call that working against needed change.imo

[weezer]

Gosh, just think martin -- tomorrow could be the end of this relationship we've endured all these years. :beer:

[martin II]

Where I live it's not as populated as the city but we prefer quality over quantity.

Well, out in the country there should be plenty of wildflowers.

[William Anthony]

Well, out in the country there should be plenty of wildflowers.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LyKXW3ioY1Q&feature=related

[tv]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LyKXW3ioY1Q&feature=related
Thank you for the blast from the past. It brought back memories.

[William Anthony]

Thank you for the blast from the past. It brought back memories.

You are quite welcome. I thought it appropriate.

[tv]

Gosh, just think martin -- tomorrow could be the end of this relationship we've endured all these years. :beer:

Are you sure you didn't mean enjoyed all these years? :)

[William Anthony]

Are you sure you didn't mean enjoyed all these years? :)

That faulty loyalty thing. :) It's only the 4th where I live. I think someone was rushing the time for sentencing but they say the days are longer in Texas. Well, wouldn't that have meant the 6th would have terminated our enjoyable relationships.

[tv]

That faulty loyalty thing. :) It's only the 4th where I live. I think someone was rushing the time for sentencing but they say the days are longer in Texas. Well, wouldn't that have meant the 6th would have terminated our enjoyable relationships.

I don't know about the days but I know the steaks are bigger -- at least the ones I had when I was there. :)

[William Anthony]

I don't know about the days but I know the steaks are bigger -- at least the ones I had when I was there. :)

I guess there will be some big stakes tomorrow in Nevada. :)

[tv]

I guess there will be some big stakes tomorrow in Nevada. :)I haven't looked but I'm sure people are betting on the sentences. :cool:

[William Anthony]

I haven't looked but I'm sure people are betting on the sentences. :cool:

I'll bet a fat man your are right. :)

[tv]

I'll bet a fat man your are right. :)

Anyone I know?

[William Anthony]

Anyone I know?

I'll bet you know Chubby Checker. :)

[tv]

I'll bet you know Chubby Checker. :)
Not personally. Besides, he wasn't that chubby. :)

[William Anthony]

Not personally. Besides, he wasn't that chubby. :)

Should I take that to mean that you met a chubby impersonator? Let me stop before you say I am twisting again. :)

[tv]

Should I take that to mean that you met a chubby impersonator? Let me stop before you say I am twisting again. :)Twisting, very clever. :) The only chubby impersonator I've ever met was an Elvis impersonator.

[William Anthony]

Twisting, very clever. :) The only chubby impersonator I've ever met was an Elvis impersonator.

Were you glad when he left the building?

[tv]

Were you glad when he left the building?Come to think of it I believe I was.

[William Anthony]

Come to think of it I believe I was.

He probably was nothing but a hound dog. :)

[tv]

He probably was nothing but a hound dog. :)Come on, don't be cruel. :tongue:

[William Anthony]

Come on, don't be cruel. :tongue:

Okay, we would not want him to be all shook up. :)

[tv]

Okay, we would not want him to be all shook up. :)The only chance I have of topping this is to go back on-topic and say Viva Las Vegas! It's been fun...talk to you later, William. :seeya:

[weezer]

The only chance I have of topping this is to go back on-topic and say Viva Las Vegas! It's been fun...talk to you later, William. :seeya:

ahh -- I bet you left him crying in the chapel.

[William Anthony]

At least, I'm not singing the mean woman blues.

[William Anthony]

Even the above post was made in a joking manner as that it the title to one of his songs. I think we can directly post to each other in a civil manner, or, at least try.

[martin II]

I don't know about the days but I know the steaks are bigger -- at least the ones I had when I was there. :)

big time sharp teeth animal eaters?

[tv]

big time sharp teeth animal eaters?
Actually, I think they were steers with horns at one time. I've never heard of cattle eating other animals. Maybe weezer would know more about Texas cows than me.

[martin II]

Actually, I think they were steers with horns at one time. I've never heard of cattle eating other animals. Maybe weezer would know more about Texas cows than me.

i was talking about human steak eaters.

[tv]

i was talking about human steak eaters.

Are you a vegetarian?

[martin II]

Are you a vegetarian?

no red meat

[tv]

no red meatA good decision. I don't eat very much but I enjoy a good steak on special occasions.

[martin II]

A good decision. I don't eat very much but I enjoy a good steak on special occasions.

Watch out for all the antibiotics.

[William Anthony]

Oh happy day, oh happy day, celebrate, celebrate-the Gs are throwing a party.:)

[William Anthony]

http://www.wsbtv.com/news/18209740/detail.html#-

"A common problem we see coming out of her courtroom is she reduces or eliminates the defense ability to present a case," said Howard Brooks, a deputy county public defender who handles appeals."

[martin II]

http://www.wsbtv.com/news/18209740/detail.html#-

"A common problem we see coming out of her courtroom is she reduces or eliminates the defense ability to present a case," said Howard Brooks, a deputy county public defender who handles appeals."

Judge Glass overuled almost all of the defense objections in this case so it looks like Howard Brooks is on point.

[William Anthony]

Judge Glass overuled almost all of the defense objections in this case so it looks like Howard Brooks is on point.

We will have to see how the case is handled on appeal.

[martin II]

We will have to see how the case is handled on appeal.

Agreed.

There were two judges available to be assigned to the oj case. Judge Glass a known hard azz and a more liberal judge. The administrator assigned Judge Glass. Oj was in trouble at that point.

The kidnapping charge must have been the weakest in the history of Nevada cases.

[martin II]

http://www.wsbtv.com/news/18209740/detail.html#-

"A common problem we see coming out of her courtroom is she reduces or eliminates the defense ability to present a case," said Howard Brooks, a deputy county public defender who handles appeals."

Would that be juducial error?

[William Anthony]

Agreed.

There were two judges available to be assigned to the oj case. Judge Glass a known hard azz and a more liberal judge. The administrator assigned Judge Glass. Oj was in trouble at that point.

The kidnapping charge must have been the weakest in the history of Nevada cases.

I think she followed the letter of the law, instead of the spirit.

[William Anthony]

Would that be juducial error?

Only if her actions were clearly erroneous and harmful, imho. I think that the defense will have to show they were in some manner prejudiced by her rulings and that prejudice was harmful.

[martin II]

Only if her actions were clearly erroneous and harmful, imho. I think that the defense will have to show they were in some manner prejudiced by her rulings and that prejudice was harmful.

i have not been able to understand the idea of the faulty prosecution transcript being used as a AID to the jury but not as evidence.

[William Anthony]

i have not been able to understand the idea of the faulty prosecution transcript being used as a AID to the jury but not as evidence.

I think that will be considered as to whether it was used as an aid or moved into evidence.

[martin II]

http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/12/05/oj.simpson.sentencing/index.html

[martin II]

I think that will be considered as to whether it was used as an aid or moved into evidence.

If i remember correctly the judge ruled that the faulty prosecution transcript would be given to the jury as a AID in following the tapes.The question is if the jury used the transcript in deliberations it would have to be in evidence?

The jury listened to the tapes in deliberaiton and if they used this faulty transcript as they listened to the tapes,then i would think that the transcript must have been entrered into evidence or something is wrong.:shrug:

[martin II]

Is Galanter going to argue the appeal or another appeals lawyer. if you know.

It seems that Fred will be in court to make a mini circus of the event.:cool:
The other issue is the victims will speak on behalf of the defendants according to the above article.What effect will that have on the judge as this is not usual.imo

[William Anthony]

If i remember correctly the judge ruled that the faulty prosecution transcript would be given to the jury as a AID in following the tapes.The question is if the jury used the transcript in deliberations it would have to be in evidence?

The jury listened to the tapes in deliberaiton and if they used this faulty transcript as they listened to the tapes,then i would think that the transcript must have been entrered into evidence or something is wrong.:shrug:

Normally, those items that are not entered into evidence are not used during jury deliberations or in summation but the judge has discretion.

[weezer]

57 minutes and counting :beer:

[William Anthony]

Is Galanter going to argue the appeal or another appeals lawyer. if you know.

It seems that Fred will be in court to make a mini circus of the event.:cool:
The other issue is the victims will speak on behalf of the defendants according to the above article.What effect will that have on the judge as this is not usual.imo

I do not know if Galanter will argue the appeal as they sometimes have lawyers designated for that purpose.

I do not think it will affect or have any effect on the judge's decision.

[weezer]

52 minutes and counting :beer:

[William Anthony]

52 minutes and counting :beer:

Never before have I seen such an armed robbery trial in which no one was hurt get so much attention. :)

[martin II]

I do not know if Galanter will argue the appeal as they sometimes have lawyers designated for that purpose.

I do not think it will affect or have any effect on the judge's decision.

A appeals lawyer is a speciality.

[William Anthony]

Thirty Five days and counting!

[William Anthony]

A appeals lawyer is a speciality.

I think it is a way to charge more but they do know the appellate judges.

[martin II]

Never before have I seen such an armed robbery trial in which no one was hurt get so much attention. :)

Only because oj was involved.everyone gets to enhance their resume and maby write a book. I expect a 'HOW WE FINALLY GOT OJ' book soon.

[martin II]

I think it is a way to charge more but they do know the appellate judges.

The case i spoke of the plaintiff paid the appeals court lawyer $25,000 to make application to the u.s. supreme court and the court didn't even hear the case.

[William Anthony]

The case i spoke of the plaintiff paid the appeals court lawyer $25,000 to make application to the u.s. supreme court and the court didn't even hear the case.

Yes, the Supreme Court decides which cases it will hear. Depending on the record of the case, that price might have been reasonable.

[weezer]

What Johnnie Cochran Really Thought About O.J.
It was late, nearing midnight, during O.J. Simpson's murder trial in Los Angeles. Simpson's lead attorney, Johnnie Cochran, had promised me an interview but had warned that we'd have to squeeze it in during off-hours. There weren't many off hours during the insanity of the Trial of the Century.

"Meet me at the office late," Cochran said.

How late, I asked.

"Doesn't matter," Cochran replied. "No matter how late you come, I'll be there."

Forty midnights in a row at the office had left the lawyer in a contemplative mood. The spectacle of the Simpson matter had long since ceased to impress or appall. Every bit of legal strategy and media manipulation had been combed over so incessantly that there really weren't many questions left to ask. So I asked the only question I was really curious about.

"Do you think he did it?" Defense lawyers usually recoil from that question. They either go off the record and say, "Of course he did it, but that doesn't matter, that's not my concern," or they issue some vague ritual denial all fluffed up with incantations about the sanctity of our legal system and every man's right to a vigorous defense.

Cochran by this point was well past ritual. So he dished, off the record, of course. Cochran died in 2005, so, by tradition of the craft, those comments are now fair game.

"There's something wrong with him," Cochran said, and he talked about other clients he'd had who somehow managed to persuade themselves that they hadn't done what they actually had done.

Simpson was a big star, a hero to some, a talented person. But, said Cochran, "I wouldn't believe him if he told me the sun was coming up again tomorrow morning."

And then the lawyer went back to work on a defense so wonderfully constructed that it got off a guy who had done a truly terrible deed.

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/raw...=news-col-blog

[martin II]

What Johnnie Cochran Really Thought About O.J.
It was late, nearing midnight, during O.J. Simpson's murder trial in Los Angeles. Simpson's lead attorney, Johnnie Cochran, had promised me an interview but had warned that we'd have to squeeze it in during off-hours. There weren't many off hours during the insanity of the Trial of the Century.

"Meet me at the office late," Cochran said.

How late, I asked.

"Doesn't matter," Cochran replied. "No matter how late you come, I'll be there."

Forty midnights in a row at the office had left the lawyer in a contemplative mood. The spectacle of the Simpson matter had long since ceased to impress or appall. Every bit of legal strategy and media manipulation had been combed over so incessantly that there really weren't many questions left to ask. So I asked the only question I was really curious about.

"Do you think he did it?" Defense lawyers usually recoil from that question. They either go off the record and say, "Of course he did it, but that doesn't matter, that's not my concern," or they issue some vague ritual denial all fluffed up with incantations about the sanctity of our legal system and every man's right to a vigorous defense.

Cochran by this point was well past ritual. So he dished, off the record, of course. Cochran died in 2005, so, by tradition of the craft, those comments are now fair game.

"There's something wrong with him," Cochran said, and he talked about other clients he'd had who somehow managed to persuade themselves that they hadn't done what they actually had done.

Simpson was a big star, a hero to some, a talented person. But, said Cochran, "I wouldn't believe him if he told me the sun was coming up again tomorrow morning."

And then the lawyer went back to work on a defense so wonderfully constructed that it got off a guy who had done a truly terrible deed.

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/raw...=news-col-blog


without hearing this out of cochrans mouth there is no reason to believe it.

i personally have heard cochran speak about the case and he has stated direct and with force thet oj did not commit that crime.
so good luck with this story.

[weezer]

knock, knock: arnelle you there?

Fred Goldman Wants to Drain Juice from Dealer
Posted Dec 7th 2008 7:30AM by TMZ Staff

Fred Goldman isn't finished with O.J. yet -- well, O.J.'s stuff, to be exact.

Goldman's lawyers are filing an action against Mike Gilbert -- the memorabilia dealer who claims O.J. confessed to killing Ron and Nicole -- asking a judge to force Mike to give Fred everything he has that's Juice-related.

A letter to Gilbert's lawyers says the dealer promised to give Goldman the property during an appearance on the "Dr. Phil Show", but he never did.

Goldman is also filling a temporary restraining order against Gilbert -- a hearing is set for Dec. 12.

http://www.tmz.com/2008/12/07/fred-goldman-wants-to-drain-juice-from-dealer/

[martin II]

knock, knock: arnelle you there?

Fred Goldman Wants to Drain Juice from Dealer
Posted Dec 7th 2008 7:30AM by TMZ Staff

Fred Goldman isn't finished with O.J. yet -- well, O.J.'s stuff, to be exact.

Goldman's lawyers are filing an action against Mike Gilbert -- the memorabilia dealer who claims O.J. confessed to killing Ron and Nicole -- asking a judge to force Mike to give Fred everything he has that's Juice-related.

A letter to Gilbert's lawyers says the dealer promised to give Goldman the property during an appearance on the "Dr. Phil Show", but he never did.

Goldman is also filling a temporary restraining order against Gilbert -- a hearing is set for Dec. 12.

http://www.tmz.com/2008/12/07/fred-goldman-wants-to-drain-juice-from-dealer/

you are scrapping the bottom of the barrel posting a story from TMZ but fred is on the money grab again.

[martin II]

With all of the legal actions fred has filed in all the courts, he has run up a hugh legal bill with several lawyers only to end up with pennies. He needs to just get a job to pay his rent.

[weezer]

With all of the legal actions fred has filed in all the courts, he has run up a hugh legal bill with several lawyers only to end up with pennies. He needs to just get a job to pay his rent.

well at least orenthal won't have to worry about paying rent for a long, long time! :eek::tongue:

[Big Ben]

well at least orenthal won't have to worry about paying rent for a long, long time! :eek::tongue:

What a sick puppy you are, Weezer. Even some of Simpson's most strident detractors see the injustice in the sentence that he and Stewart were given.
Your attitude exemplifies why so many around the world see America as a joke when it comes to fairness and justice. If you're going to try the man at least try him for something that makes sense, and does not leave the justice system looking stupid and vengeful.

His sentence is so outrageous I truly don't believe that Simpson is going to be gone for too long a time. The sentence is absolutely vindictive when you weigh the prosecution's gift of immunity to Tom Riccio.

The sentence is so imbalanced that, imo, it amounts to an act of cruel and unusual punishment, a violation of Simpson's rights under the 8th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution. Watch, the Riccio issue is going to embarrass this stupid judge and prosecutor in Las Vegas and cause this sentence and even possibly the whole trial to be overturned. They have too be a bunch of morons to impose this level of punishment against these men. The stupidity of this silly judge who keeps trying to deny the impossible; that she wasn't influenced by the 1995 criminal trial. Give me a break!

[tv]

What Johnnie Cochran Really Thought About O.J.
It was late, nearing midnight, during O.J. Simpson's murder trial in Los Angeles. Simpson's lead attorney, Johnnie Cochran, had promised me an interview but had warned that we'd have to squeeze it in during off-hours. There weren't many off hours during the insanity of the Trial of the Century.

"Meet me at the office late," Cochran said.

How late, I asked.

"Doesn't matter," Cochran replied. "No matter how late you come, I'll be there."

Forty midnights in a row at the office had left the lawyer in a contemplative mood. The spectacle of the Simpson matter had long since ceased to impress or appall. Every bit of legal strategy and media manipulation had been combed over so incessantly that there really weren't many questions left to ask. So I asked the only question I was really curious about.

"Do you think he did it?" Defense lawyers usually recoil from that question. They either go off the record and say, "Of course he did it, but that doesn't matter, that's not my concern," or they issue some vague ritual denial all fluffed up with incantations about the sanctity of our legal system and every man's right to a vigorous defense.

Cochran by this point was well past ritual. So he dished, off the record, of course. Cochran died in 2005, so, by tradition of the craft, those comments are now fair game.

"There's something wrong with him," Cochran said, and he talked about other clients he'd had who somehow managed to persuade themselves that they hadn't done what they actually had done.

Simpson was a big star, a hero to some, a talented person. But, said Cochran, "I wouldn't believe him if he told me the sun was coming up again tomorrow morning."
And then the lawyer went back to work on a defense so wonderfully constructed that it got off a guy who had done a truly terrible deed.

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/raw...=news-col-blog

Even his defense lawyer admitted he was a liar and a murderer and you're the sick puppy? Riiight. ;)

[William Anthony]

Even his defense lawyer admitted he was a liar and a murderer and you're the sick puppy? Riiight. ;)

I am only going by the excerpt you posted but show me in there were he said Simpson was a liar and a murderer. I have never heard that after the trial he said Simpson was a murderer. The only thing this shows me is that he was able to set aside his personal feelings about Simpson and hold the state to its burden.

[martin II]

I am only going by the excerpt you posted but show me in there were he said Simpson was a liar and a murderer. I have never heard that after the trial he said Simpson was a murderer. The only thing this shows me is that he was able to set aside his personal feelings about Simpson and hold the state to its burden.

tv at times seem to be doing a litttle of twisting of what was posted.

There were many untrue media reports made that tried to harm Cochran after his masterful defense of Simpson. This one is not true.More trash.imo

[martin II]

Even his defense lawyer admitted he was a liar and a murderer and you're the sick puppy? Riiight. ;)

That post is 13 years old. You have strongly suggested that the election is over and i should move on, i suggest that you do the same as it relates to this post.hahaha

[weezer]

That post is 13 years old. You have strongly suggested that the election is over and i should move on, i suggest that you do the same as it relates to this post.hahaha

what post is 13 years old?

[William Anthony]

well at least orenthal won't have to worry about paying rent for a long, long time! :eek::tongue:

No, those taxpayers who wanted him there will be paying for it. How much are you donating? :)

[martin II]

what post is 13 years old?

the claim is about a story that is 13 years old.take your own advice and move on?

[martin II]

No, those taxpayers who wanted him there will be paying for it. How much are you donating? :)

It cost more to maintain a person in jail than it does for a college education.

[tv]

I am only going by the excerpt you posted but show me in there were he said Simpson was a liar and a murderer. I have never heard that after the trial he said Simpson was a murderer. The only thing this shows me is that he was able to set aside his personal feelings about Simpson and hold the state to its burden.



But, said Cochran, "I wouldn't believe him if he told me the sun was coming up again tomorrow morning." If he's not saying he's a liar what is he saying? Johnny Cochran was many things but I never thought he had a problem expressing himself.

Excuse me, I forgot you are a twister of the facts where Simpson is concerned (not to be critical -- I just don't think you can help yourself) so I'll retract what I said about Johnny Cochran saying he is a murderer even though I think it's implicit in what he said.

[William Anthony]

But, said Cochran, "I wouldn't believe him if he told me the sun was coming up again tomorrow morning." If he's not saying he's a liar what is he saying? Johnny Cochran was many things but I never thought he had a problem expressing himself.

Excuse me, I forgot you are a twister of the facts where Simpson is concerned (not to be critical -- I just don't think you can help yourself) so I'll retract what I said about Johnny Cochran saying he is a murderer even though I think it's implicit in what he said.

I said I was going only by the excerpts you previously supplied. In an effort not to displease you, let me offer another explanation of the excerpt you have now supplied. Could he have meant that Simpson was not telling the truth but still not the murderer? In other words, that Simpson was shielding the true murderer. :)

[tv]

I said I was going only by the excerpts you previously supplied. In an effort not to displease you, let me offer another explanation of the excerpt you have now supplied. Could he have meant that Simpson was not telling the truth but still not the murderer? In other words, that Simpson was shielding the true murderer. :)

Are we back on Jason Simpson being the murderer again? Certainly he wouldn't shield K1 and K2.

[William Anthony]

Are we back on Jason Simpson being the murderer again? Certainly he wouldn't shield K1 and K2.

I really cannot speak authoritatively to what he meant but I can offer a different explanation, considering that he was still under a code of ethics to work in the best interest of his client, even if that meant not telling what his client may not have told him that someone else was the killer, whom the client knew, and this may have been his way of indicating that Simpson was not telling all and he suspected that. I hope I am saying this clearly, without mentioning names. Yes, I think that Simpson may have known the killer's identity and it may have been someone close to him and that he suspected Simpson was not telling the complete truth or, at least, that is another way of looking at what might be a coded statement.

[tv]

I really cannot speak authoritatively to what he meant but I can offer a different explanation, considering that he was still under a code of ethics to work in the best interest of his client, even if that meant not telling what his client may not have told him that someone else was the killer, whom the client knew, and this may have been his way of indicating that Simpson was not telling all and he suspected that. I hope I am saying this clearly, without mentioning names. Yes, I think that Simpson may have known the killer's identity and it may have been someone close to him and that he suspected Simpson was not telling the complete truth or, at least, that is another way of looking at what might be a coded statement.

I can't believe people still want to pin these murders on Jason Simpson just to absolve OJ Simpson.

[William Anthony]

I can't believe people still want to pin this murder on Jason Simpson just to absolve OJ Simpson.

I am not attempting to pin the murders on anyone. I am looking at what was said with an open mind. For all I know JC could have meant just what you think he meant. I just offer another way to interpret what he said. I guess what I am saying is that it requires a bit more for me to reach the conclusion/opinion that Simpson did the murders.

[tv]

I am not attempting to pin the murders on anyone. I am looking at what was said with an open mind. For all I know JC could have meant just what you think he meant. I just offer another way to interpret what he said. I guess what I am saying is that it requires a bit more for me to reach the conclusion/opinion that Simpson did the murders.As I've said before some people could see a videotape of OJ Simpson killing Ron and Nicole and still not believe it. I include you in that group of people.

[William Anthony]

As I've said before some people could see a videotape of OJ Simpson killing Ron and Nicole and still not believe it. I include you in that group of people.

Thank you. I would require the videotape to be authenticated but that's just the lawyer in me-believe none of what you hear and half of what you see. :)

[tv]

Thank you. I would require the videotape to be authenticated but that's just the lawyer in me-believe none of what you hear and half of what you see. :)There is such a thing as denial in the fact of irrefutable facts which begins to look disingenuous after a time.

[William Anthony]

There is such a thing as denial in the fact of irrefutable facts which begins to look disingenuous after a time.

I think there is good reason to require authentication of documents and tangible things or people could just produce things that have been altered and made to look like something they are not, look at what the Government tells us about the JFK assassination film and the UFO films.

[tv]

I think there is good reason to require authentication of documents and tangible things or people could just produce things that have been altered and made to look like something they are not, look at what the Government tells us about the JFK assassination film and the UFO films.Let me rephrase: There are people that would say that OJ Simpson didn't kill Ron and Nicole even if they saw a videotape
authenticated by experts on both sides.

[William Anthony]

Let me rephrase: There are people that would say that OJ Simpson didn't kill Ron and Nicole even if they saw a videotape
authenticated by experts on both sides.

Alrighty then and I would not be one. :)

[tv]

Alrighty then and I would not be one. :)

You mean like the pictures of Simpson wearing the Bruno Magli's that was authenticated by an unimpeachable expert in the civil trial? I discount the defense 'expert' because he was just a guy who runs tacky JFK tours in Dallas.

[William Anthony]

You mean like the pictures of Simpson wearing the Bruno Magli's that was authenticated by an unimpeachable expert in the civil trial? I discount the defense 'expert' because he was just a guy who runs tacky JFK tours in Dallas.

We again have come back to the difference in experiences as to what value should be attributed to what things.

[tv]

We again have come back to the difference in experiences as to what value should be attributed to what things.

Would you like to explain?

[William Anthony]

Would you like to explain?

Allow me to begin with the simplest first. I do not buy into the one bullet theory that traveled in the shape of a circle. I do not dismiss an idea because it is unpopular. As to the shoes, we just have to look at the testimony in the civil trial and there was no picture placing him in those shoes on the night of the murder. I know you place great value in an apparent lie. I do not see it as a lie. He said he did not own, not that he ever wore, a pair of those shoes. I am not saying who is right or wrong, only that we see things differently based on our life experiences.

[tv]

Allow me to begin with the simplest first. I do not buy into the one bullet theory that traveled in the shape of a circle. I do not dismiss an idea because it is unpopular. As to the shoes, we just have to look at the testimony in the civil trial and there was no picture placing him in those shoes on the night of the murder. I know you place great value in an apparent lie. I do not see it as a lie. He said he did not own, not that he ever wore, a pair of those shoes. I am not saying who is right or wrong, only that we see things differently based on our life experiences.

For heaven's sake, William. No one ever came forward to claim they loaned him the shoes. The man lied -- why keep making excuses for him?

[William Anthony]

For heaven's sake, William. No one ever came forward to claim they loaned him the shoes. The man lied -- why keep making excuses for him?

I am sure you know and, pardon me for using this example but Ms. Palin, that they buy clothes for celebrities to wear to appear on tv and they do not own them, unless they choose to so do.

[tv]

I am sure and pardon me for using this example but Palin that they buy clothes for celebrities to wear to appear on tv and they do not own them, unless they choose to so do.

You may not understand that people like Simpson use their own shoes because shoes are such a personal thing. Have a lovely day, William. I'm not getting into Palin today. :seeya:

[William Anthony]

You may not understand that people like Simpson use their own shoes because shoes are such a personal thing. Have a lovely day, William. I'm not getting into Palin today. :seeya:

So, who are we to say whether he owned them or not. I hope you see what I am saying. I did not want you to engage in the Ms. Palin debate but thought she was a good example. I do not know if the stores who made BMs were sponsors of the football programs on which he appeared.

[weezer]

the claim is about a story that is 13 years old.take your own advice and move on?

has cochran been dead 13 years? wow -- it seems like it just happened maybe 3 years ago. ;)

[weezer]

It cost more to maintain a person in jail than it does for a college education.

maybe but in orenthal's case, it could quite possibly save a life. :eek:

[tv]

So, who are we to say whether he owned them or not. I hope you see what I am saying. I did not want you to engage in the Ms. Palin debate but thought she was a good example. I do not know if the stores who made BMs were sponsors of the football programs on which he appeared.
Of course he owned them but let's say he didn't. How do we know that he returned them and they weren't in his possession at the time of the murders? He didn't have to own them to wear them to commit murder.

[martin II]

Are we back on Jason Simpson being the murderer again? Certainly he wouldn't shield K1 and K2.

If oj was involved in the Golf referrals to the mob gambling site as it is reported that Nicole made serious disagreements about and if Gus and K2 did the killing,oj would have good reason not to expose them.

William Dear made a good argument for Jason being the killer.

[tv]

I think he chose those shoes because he thought they were ugly and he knew he would throw them away afterwards.

[martin II]

We again have come back to the difference in experiences as to what value should be attributed to what things.

William

My experience would tell me that if Bloomingdales said oj never baught those ugly azz shoes on his shoe shopping trip in their store, then oj did not buy those ugly azz shoes from them.
I think that some would say i don't care what bloomingdales said oj MUST have baught the shoes otherwise there is reasonable doubt that he did.

[William Anthony]

Of course he owned them but let's say he didn't. How do we know that he returned them and they weren't in his possession at the time of the murders? He didn't have to own them to wear them to commit murder.

I was addressing you post about his apparent lie. Now, whether he wore them to commit murder or not is a different subject. There were no shoes produced that he wore to commit murder. Your posts indicates an inference that he wore them but did not own them or owned and wore them, kept them until the date of the murders and wore them to commit the murders. Those are inferences based on inferences without evidence to support the first inference, which the criminal jury could not make.

[William Anthony]

William

My experience would tell me that if Bloomingdales said oj never baught those ugly azz shoes on his shoe shopping trip in their store, then oj did not buy those ugly azz shoes from them.
I think that some would say i don't care what bloomingdales said oj MUST have baught the shoes otherwise there is reasonable doubt that he did.

Where are the shoes?

[tv]

I was addressing you post about his apparent lie. Now, whether he wore them to commit murder or not is a different subject. There were no shoes produced that he wore to commit murder. Your posts indicates an inference that he wore them but did not own them or owned and wore them, kept them until the date of the murders and wore them to commit the murders. Those are inferences based on inferences without evidence to support the first inference, which the criminal jury could not make.He had the shoes in his posssession just a few months before the murders. He lied about the shoes like he lied about everything else.

[William Anthony]

He had the shoes in his posssession just a few months before the murders. He lied about the shoes like he lied about everything else.

I think his words were he did not own the shoes.

[martin II]

I am sure you know and, pardon me for using this example but Ms. Palin, that they buy clothes for celebrities to wear to appear on tv and they do not own them, unless they choose to so do.

I read a comment where it was Cindy McCain that informed Palin that it would not be proper for Palin to be on stage with Cindy in Chanel outfits and Palin in some of those Walmart house dress she was seen in in Alaska.
The RNC agreed and hired a personal shopper to put this lady in some real clothes.
So celebrities get free clothes. Look at the tv on camera people all free clothes.

[William Anthony]

I have to say this and I do not believe I have arthritis but my leg has been sore for days. I would not try to harm anyone feeling the way I am, for fear they might hit my leg, let alone set a short time limit for myself to rush about. :)

[martin II]

Where are the shoes?

The ones people claim oj baught are still in Bloomingdales i guess

or Gus took them back to New Jersey on 6/13.

[tv]

I think his words were he did not own the shoes.He's a proven liar so that means nothing.

[tv]

I have to say this and I do not believe I have arthritis but my leg has been sore for days. I would not try to harm anyone feeling the way I am, for fear they might hit my leg, let alone set a short time limit for myself to rush about. :)

Sometimes rage blocks out any other rational feelings or emotions.

[martin II]

I think the prosecution and some others tried to be as creative as possible to put oj at Bundy during the murders and they could not do it.No one saw him at Bundy end of story.

[William Anthony]

Sometimes rage blocks out any other rational feelings or emotions.

Believe me there have been times when I felt rage but my leg still hurt. :)

[William Anthony]

He's a proven liar so that means nothing.

We were talking about his statement that he did not own the shoes. :)

[tv]

We were talking about his statement that he did not own the shoes. :)
Right. I don't believe him when he says he didn't own the shoes. Why should he balk at lying after killing two people?

[martin II]

Believe me there have been times when I felt rage but my leg still hurt. :)

I have heard that a ice pack on the sore spot will cause a certain acid to rush to the spote and cause pain to receed.
That is if you do have pain.

[tv]

Believe me there have been times when I felt rage but my leg still hurt. :)
Maybe you should seek medical help.

[William Anthony]

Maybe you should seek medical help.

Do you know a good nurse? :) I think I am going to have to. I have a blockage in the leg and it has been hurting for quite sometime. I need to contact my instructors. I missed last Monday and Thursday nights. It is very painful after I sit and/or lay and try to get up.

[William Anthony]

I have heard that a ice pack on the sore spot will cause a certain acid to rush to the spote and cause pain to receed.
That is if you do have pain.

Yes, I do and it is a task trying to go up and downstairs. Maybe, I will regain that 150 pound frame. :)

[William Anthony]

Right. I don't believe him when he says he didn't own the shoes. Why should he balk at lying after killing two people?

Alrighty then. I think the prosecution should have produced more evidence and it was a great leap for the jury to make.

[martin II]

correction

spot

[martin II]

Do you know a good nurse? :) I think I am going to have to. I have a blockage in the leg and it has been hurting for quite sometime. I need to contact my instructors. I missed last Monday and Thursday nights. It is very painful after I sit and/or lay and try to get up.

Last month i had a blood flow test to detect any possible clot. consider that.

[Big Ben]

Even his defense lawyer admitted he was a liar and a murderer and you're the sick puppy? Riiight. ;)

Well, TV, you might be right about me being a sick puppy, because I don't understand what has happened in this country that has caused such a level of ignorance and stupidity in what I had so long perceived to be a country of intellgent people.

I'm sick because I don't read any where in Cochran's remarks that yo cited where he considered Simpson to be a murderer.

I'm sick because I have to take the time to tell someone that I would presume to be intelligent enough to know better that this is an improper post to have alleged, with no factual basis regarding Cochran.

I'm sick because I don't understand how a prosecutor and judge in Clark County Nevada would desire to impune the integrity of themselves and an otherwise respectable court in front of the world by failing to recognize the absurdity of granting immunity to one kidnapping conspirator and sentencing another to 33years in prison.

I'm sick because the media provides every opportunity for a fraud, Fred Goldman, to get to a microphone and yet have never attempted to due any due diligence in examining his background and/or his associations.

I'm sick because so called professional journalists have never asked Fred Goldman about a psychotic individual, on trial for attempted murder, with an alleged hostility against Goldman, and was in close proximity to his family at the time his son's murder. Although he mentions this individual seven times in his book His Name Is Ron, he never calls this individual he knows so well by his name. Yet news journalists find no interest in this; that is part of the public record.

I'm sick because the so called professional journalists have failed to do any type of meaningful due diligence in examining the irregularities of all of the contradictory and controversial evidence associated with the 1995 Simpson criminal trial. The questionable Brown commute and the absconded Brown telephone records are just getting larger, they can't be swept under a rug.
Except with certain people who simply can ignore the lumps.

I'm sick because I know that Ron Goldman has a criminal jacket that is thicker that a "Subway Sandwich" and LA Law enforcement officials keep rendering sorry ass excuses for disallowing a thorough examination of it.

I'm sick because those who report the news have seen no need to tell the world public about what is included in Ron Goldman's criminal background.

I'm sick in general about air heads that want to presume that something is true simply because someone told them so, journalists or not.

But what would I expect from someone like you anyway. We live in a country where otherwise so called "intelligent" people send $10,000 dollars over seas to someone that they absolutely have no idea whether they exist or not, in order to help them retrieve some type of mysterious fortune. My understanding is that most of these lard heads live in the United States.

And get this, my wholesome minded friend, after finding out that they have been tricked, fooled, and bamboozled these so called intelligent Americans have turned around and sent $10,000 more until their bank accounts are depleated, according to guests of Oprah's program. So you should be able to forgive my sickness because I was just unaware that it was so many of you normally thinking, gullible, characters in this country.

I guess I need to try harder to become more like those that you and others are fond of calling "the majority" who think a certain way in the Simpson matter. I wonder how I might qualify, maybe if I just hauled off and sent
$10, 000 to some flim flam artist in Nigeria you and the Weezer might be willing to accept me into your party.

[weezer]

snip*snip*". . .I'm sick . . ."

no arguing with that statement! :D

[Big Ben]

snip*snip*

no arguing with that statement! :D


Ha, ha, ha! Now that Bozo's dead the time is right for you to come forward. You'd make a splendid replacement for that clown.

Bozo the Weezer!:D

[Big Ben]

I think there is good reason to require authentication of documents and tangible things or people could just produce things that have been altered and made to look like something they are not, look at what the Government tells us about the JFK assassination film and the UFO films.

I don't understand this mindset to simply assume that police and prosecutors would not manipulate alleged prima facie evidence, especially in L.A. Here's a justice system, L.A. County, that required U.S. Justice Department oversight and supervision after the Simpson trial had long ended because of their proclivity to plant evidence and convict thousands of innocent victims during the Rampart scandal.

Again, how do these characters simply ignore that fact? They could admittedly plant evidence on thousands of innocent people, and send them to prison without an after thought, but NOT O.J. SIMPSON! He's the only one that they would not have planted evidence on. Right!!!!

[William Anthony]

I don't understand this mindset to simply assume that police and prosecutors would not manipulate alleged prima facie evidence, especially in L.A. Here's a justice system, L.A. County, that required U.S. Justice Department oversight and supervision after the Simpson trial had long ended because of their proclivity to plant evidence and convict thousands of innocent victims during the Rampart scandal.

Again, how do these characters simply ignore that fact? They could admittedly plant evidence on thousands of innocent people, and send them to prison without an after thought, but NOT O.J. SIMPSON! He's the only one that they would not have planted evidence on. Right!!!!

I truly believe it is a result of their interactions with LE and they cannot believe that such practices are perpetrate on a large scale of with such frequency. I honestly believe that they believe most of such reports of LE corruption and abuse are fabricated.

[martin II]

I don't understand this mindset to simply assume that police and prosecutors would not manipulate alleged prima facie evidence, especially in L.A. Here's a justice system, L.A. County, that required U.S. Justice Department oversight and supervision after the Simpson trial had long ended because of their proclivity to plant evidence and convict thousands of innocent victims during the Rampart scandal.

Again, how do these characters simply ignore that fact? They could admittedly plant evidence on thousands of innocent people, and send them to prison without an after thought, but NOT O.J. SIMPSON! He's the only one that they would not have planted evidence on. Right!!!!



Big Ben

Imo two conditions cause people to ignore bad le behavior.

Ignorance or racism.

[Big Ben]

I truly believe it is a result of their interactions with LE and they cannot believe that such practices are perpetrate on a large scale of with such frequency. I honestly believe that they believe most of such reports of LE corruption and abuse are fabricated.

Wm, I could normally agree with you but when the L.A. Police Precinct, Rampart, scandal broke it was all over the news media in 2000, even CNN reported that the California legislature had to convene an emergency session to quickly pass legislation to prevent an impending disaster of thousands of innocent men filing multi-million dollar personal injury lawsuits that could have literally bankrupted the state, while these innocent men walked out of the prison gates of San Quentin in droves.

An unnecessary, unwarranted, and unjust disaster placed upon the backs of the taxpayers of California, and certainly L.A. County and promulgated for years by those in L.A. County who are hired to protect and to serve.

My god!!!

However, with all the above said you're trying to tell me that these clowns still don't get the picture. It could happen to thousands of others just not to O.J. Simpson????

[martin II]

Wm, I could normally agree with you but when the L.A. Police Precinct, Rampart, scandal broke it was all over the news media in 2000, even CNN reported that the California legislature had to convene an emergency session to quickly pass legislation to prevent an impending disaster of thousands of innocent men filing multi-million dollar personal injury lawsuits that could have literally bankrupted the state, while these innocent men walked out of the prison gates of San Quentin in droves.

An unnecessary, unwarranted, and unjust disaster placed upon the backs of the taxpayers of California, and certainly L.A. County and promulgated for years by those in L.A. County who are hired to protect and to serve.

My god!!!

However, with all the above said you're trying to tell me that these clowns still don't get the picture. It could happen to thousands of others just not to O.J. Simpson????


Rampart was also about le taking drugs from dealers and reselling them to other drug dealers. LAPD was also accused in the killing of Biggy Smalls by his mother.

This criminal activity came to light with Rampart but it had been going on long before the scandal became public. Even though the Justics department
too charge of the management of lapd because of corruption some people will still deny that any of this was true.

What this tells us is that some in lapd did frame many people and many innocent people did go to jail as a result and it did not take the whole department to accomplish these crimes.imo

[tv]

Well, TV, you might be right about me being a sick puppy, because I don't understand what has happened in this country that has caused such a level of ignorance and stupidity in what I had so long perceived to be a country of intellgent people.

I'm sick because I don't read any where in Cochran's remarks that yo cited where he considered Simpson to be a murderer.

I'm sick because I have to take the time to tell someone that I would presume to be intelligent enough to know better that this is an improper post to have alleged, with no factual basis regarding Cochran.

I'm sick because I don't understand how a prosecutor and judge in Clark County Nevada would desire to impune the integrity of themselves and an otherwise respectable court in front of the world by failing to recognize the absurdity of granting immunity to one kidnapping conspirator and sentencing another to 33years in prison.

I'm sick because the media provides every opportunity for a fraud, Fred Goldman, to get to a microphone and yet have never attempted to due any due diligence in examining his background and/or his associations.

I'm sick because so called professional journalists have never asked Fred Goldman about a psychotic individual, on trial for attempted murder, with an alleged hostility against Goldman, and was in close proximity to his family at the time his son's murder. Although he mentions this individual seven times in his book His Name Is Ron, he never calls this individual he knows so well by his name. Yet news journalists find no interest in this; that is part of the public record.

I'm sick because the so called professional journalists have failed to do any type of meaningful due diligence in examining the irregularities of all of the contradictory and controversial evidence associated with the 1995 Simpson criminal trial. The questionable Brown commute and the absconded Brown telephone records are just getting larger, they can't be swept under a rug.
Except with certain people who simply can ignore the lumps.

I'm sick because I know that Ron Goldman has a criminal jacket that is thicker that a "Subway Sandwich" and LA Law enforcement officials keep rendering sorry ass excuses for disallowing a thorough examination of it.

I'm sick because those who report the news have seen no need to tell the world public about what is included in Ron Goldman's criminal background.

I'm sick in general about air heads that want to presume that something is true simply because someone told them so, journalists or not.

But what would I expect from someone like you anyway. We live in a country where otherwise so called "intelligent" people send $10,000 dollars over seas to someone that they absolutely have no idea whether they exist or not, in order to help them retrieve some type of mysterious fortune. My understanding is that most of these lard heads live in the United States.

And get this, my wholesome minded friend, after finding out that they have been tricked, fooled, and bamboozled these so called intelligent Americans have turned around and sent $10,000 more until their bank accounts are depleated, according to guests of Oprah's program. So you should be able to forgive my sickness because I was just unaware that it was so many of you normally thinking, gullible, characters in this country.

I guess I need to try harder to become more like those that you and others are fond of calling "the majority" who think a certain way in the Simpson matter. I wonder how I might qualify, maybe if I just hauled off and sent
$10, 000 to some flim flam artist in Nigeria you and the Weezer might be willing to accept me into your party.

Big Ben, you are too ready to think the worst of me and insult me on top of it. When I referred to someone being a sick puppy I was talking about OJ Simpson, not you. Sorry I wasn't more clear. :)

[William Anthony]

Wm, I could normally agree with you but when the L.A. Police Precinct, Rampart, scandal broke it was all over the news media in 2000, even CNN reported that the California legislature had to convene an emergency session to quickly pass legislation to prevent an impending disaster of thousands of innocent men filing multi-million dollar personal injury lawsuits that could have literally bankrupted the state, while these innocent men walked out of the prison gates of San Quentin in droves.

An unnecessary, unwarranted, and unjust disaster placed upon the backs of the taxpayers of California, and certainly L.A. County and promulgated for years by those in L.A. County who are hired to protect and to serve.

My god!!!

However, with all the above said you're trying to tell me that these clowns still don't get the picture. It could happen to thousands of others just not to O.J. Simpson????

For some reason and I do not know why, I have never wanted to visit the west coast other than New Orleans. I was not aware of the Rampart scandal and only heard of it on this board. However, being raised where I was, I was aware of rampant LE corruption. It was not hard for me to believe. I think it was hard for others. Years ago, I had a talk with some younger Whites after hearing them make remarks about Blacks migrating here and taking jobs. They were raised in the suburbs. I asked them had they heard of slavery and they said no. I asked them had they seen Roots and they said their parents would not let them watch it. Whether they were telling the truth or not I will never know but it was obvious to me that they were oblivious to certain things.

[William Anthony]

Sickness? You should see a doctor.

Well Joe,

What you don't know. A word to the impulsive. You may be in over your head on this one and you may not find others as tolerant of your insults as I have been. I know and let me respond for you. You hypocrite with the adjectives deleted. ;):cool:

[martin II]

Sickness? You should see a doctor.

What a empty headed post.

[martin II]

For some reason and I do not know why, I have never wanted to visit the west coast other than New Orleans. I was not aware of the Rampart scandal and only heard of it on this board. However, being raised where I was, I was aware of rampant LE corruption. It was not hard for me to believe. I think it was hard for others. Years ago, I had a talk with some younger Whites after hearing them make remarks about Blacks migrating here and taking jobs. They were raised in the suburbs. I asked them had they heard of slavery and they said no. I asked them had they seen Roots and they said their parents would not let them watch it. Whether they were telling the truth or not I will never know but it was obvious to me that they were oblivious to certain things.

i think that some people in sterile communities read about horror police stories in other neighborhoods but since it did not involve their group , they are not concerned.

When ramport was discussed here there were people that actually stated that this happened after ojs case. Totally ignoring that rampart had a long history. imo that was again because le was not framing people in their communities but only in black areas so it was of no concern to them.

[weezer]

snipped*snipped*For some reason and I do not know why, I have never wanted to visit the west coast other than New Orleans. . .

psst -- New Orleans isn't on the west coast. :shrug:

[William Anthony]

snipped*snipped*

psst -- New Orleans isn't on the west coast. :shrug:

I see. I should have made myself more clear. The closest I have been to the west coast is New Orleans. Thanks.

[weezer]

OJ Simpson transferred from Vegas to Nevada prison
By KEN RITTER – 15 hours ago

LAS VEGAS (AP) — O.J. Simpson was transferred Monday from jail to a Nevada state prison to begin serving nine to 33 years for his felony convictions in a gunpoint confrontation with two sports memorabilia dealers, a state corrections official said.

Simpson, 61, arrived at High Desert State Prison in Indian Springs, Department of Corrections spokeswoman Suzanne Pardee said. The all-male medium security prison, about 45 miles northwest of Las Vegas, has 3,000 beds and serves as the intake center for all new southern Nevada prison inmates.

"It went as expected," said Simpson lawyer Yale Galanter, who said he knew Simpson had been due to be moved sometime this week from the Clark County jail. "We're actually expecting that he'll be assigned to one of the southern Nevada prisons."

Simpson trial co-defendant Clarence "C.J." Stewart remained Monday at the Clark County Detention Center, jail records showed.

Stewart, 54, received 7 1/2 to 27 years when he and Simpson were sentenced Friday on 10 charges by Judge Jackie Glass in Las Vegas.

A Clark County District Court jury found the two men guilty Oct. 3 of 12 charges, including kidnapping, armed robbery, assault with a deadly weapon, burglary and conspiracy in the Sept. 13, 2007, confrontation. The judge dismissed two felony coercion charges at sentencing.

Simpson, Stewart and four former co-defendants were accused of robbing two memorabilia dealers at gunpoint in a cramped room at the Palace Station casino hotel.

Simpson insisted he only wanted to retrieve items that he said had been stolen from him in the years after he was acquitted of murder in the 1994 slayings of his ex-wife, Nicole Brown Simpson, and her friend Ronald Goldman in Los Angeles.

The four former co-defendants — Michael McClinton, Walter Alexander, Charles Cashmore and Charles Ehrlich — face sentencing Tuesday morning before Glass. Each pleaded guilty to reduced felony charges and testified against Simpson and Stewart in return for a chance at probation instead of prison.

McClinton faces up to 11 years for robbery and conspiracy to commit robbery. Alexander faces up to six years for conspiracy to commit robbery, but received a promise that prosecutors would argue for a suspended sentence. Ehrlich faces up to five years for attempted burglary and attempted accessory to robbery. Cashmore faces up to five years for accessory to robbery.

State prisons chief Howard Skolnik has said Simpson and Stewart would spend their first 21 days in prison undergoing inmate intake evaluations before they are assigned to a prison to serve their sentences.

For those three weeks, the daily routine is mostly boredom, Skolnik said. Inmates are allowed five hours a day outside their cells, and no mail or parcel deliveries. Only their lawyers may visit.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5iUNgbOr-2bnpFUX0MiII6je2CkRAD94UPTV80

[weezer]

PRESS RELEASE
O.J. Simpson Stars in New Shocking and Surreal Hidden Camera Comedy DVD
America's New Guilty Pleasure Has Finally Arrived: Get Prepared to Get 'Juiced!'

Last update: 8:27 a.m. EST Dec. 5, 2008
LOS ANGELES, Dec 05, 2008 /PRNewswire via COMTEX/ -- The verdict is in: Reality television in America is about to get a new celebrity face and it is like nothing you have ever seen before! "The Juice" is on the loose ... Again!
As one of the most recognizable figures in American pop culture and perhaps the most notorious celebrity of all time, O.J. Simpson is best known for his roles as one of the greatest NFL Hall of Fame players ever, an infamous freeway driver, and as the epicenter of the most prolific murder trial in U.S. history which captured the attention of the entire world. Now, GetJuiced.com is proud to present O.J. as you have never seen him before (or ever thought you would!) in the new, exclusive, action-packed, controversial and totally uncensored DVD "Juiced".
The "must-see" DVD spectacle of the year, which will certainly be one of the most talked about and controversial reality programs ever produced, "Juiced" is a 90-minute candid camera extravaganza that will have everyone in the country repeating the catch-phrase "You've Been Juiced!" Every segment contains jaw-dropping hidden-camera stunts and outrageous practical jokes performed by O.J. himself on unsuspecting real-life people all across America.
"Juiced" puts O.J. back in the spotlight, delivering shock, amazement, and surreal excitement with every role he plays. "Juiced" mixes the most outrageous and recognizable spoofs of popular reality TV with O.J.'s outrageous personality and rarely seen sense of humor, resulting in unbelievable reactions from everyone he comes in contact. For example, an unctuous used car salesman trying to peddle an infamous white Bronco with an "authentic" bullet-hole touting the vehicle's "escapability" feature to prospective buyers. Witness O.J. Simpson caught "cheating" with another man's fiancee in a seedy motel before a confrontation ensues, resulting in a heart- pounding domestic disturbance that will leave you breathless! Or a strangely familiar street bum who tries to make an extra dollar aggressively cleaning automobile windshields. O.J. even stars in "**** Juice" as a "gangsta" rapper holding ruthless auditions for his new hit song "Get Juiced" at a sex-crazed strip club. The final edit music video of this controversial, hard-hitting and powerful rap filmed with "DJ Juice" surrounded by half-naked burlesque dancers is included in the Special Deluxe Edition "Juiced" DVD.
And if that's not enough, getting "served" takes on a whole new meaning as both laughs and wrong orders are handed out as "McJuice" works the "drive- thru" window of a fast food restaurant (no, you won't want fries with that)! Next, imagine opening your door expecting your usual pizza delivery guy and instead finding a very familiar face with your half-eaten order -- who then tries to steal your change. Or arriving on the Las Vegas strip and being serenaded by the "Juice" dressed as Elvis Presley -- with his "mini-Elvis" midget sidekick!
Reality gets even more twisted as O.J. is a real estate agent's worst nightmare who sabotages an open house, and in the mix we meet some very unusual and "eye-popping" neighbors. Bouncing to the other extreme we see O.J. and a nine-iron dealing with the Paparazzi during an extraordinary golf game, as well as another hilarious, albeit uncomfortable sequence, as O.J. is secretly disguised as an elderly, foul-mouthed, Caucasian bingo caller at a senior center!
"'Juiced' is America's new guilty pleasure and will have everyone talking. We were shocked to see O.J. film these uncensored segments and surreal scenarios. From the moment you put 'Juiced' into your DVD player and press 'play', the footage will keep you glued to the screen. You won't believe your eyes," says Rick Mahr, President & CEO of Xtreme Entertainment Group (XEG), the exclusive distributor of "Juiced".
Available for the first time ever, the new "Juiced" DVD includes not only the controversial rap video "Get Juiced" performed by O.J., but also shocking bonus features, special surprises, uncut outtakes, and stunning behind-the- scenes footage. "Juiced" is truly a must-see that gives you the most revealing access ever into O.J. Simpson more than 14 years after his infamous murder trial and now his newest criminal charges in Las Vegas.
The uncensored DVD version of "Juiced" will be available soon for just $19.95 at www.GetJuiced.com.
"JUICED" is truly a must-see video experience that gives you the most revealing access ever into O.J. Simpson through shocking bonus features, special surprises, uncut outtakes, and stunning behind the scenes footage. Has "Juiced" taken reality TV too far? The jury is still out, but one thing is for certain: It will never be the same again! "The Juice" is on the loose ... Again - and it's all caught on camera!
For special video sneak previews of "Juiced" available now for a limited- time only, visit www.GetJuiced.com.
O.J.'s rap "Get Juiced" is now available for purchase worldwide on iTunes for $0.99

http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/OJ-Simpson-Stars-New-Shocking/story.aspx?guid=%7BDD2AAF2B-DF8A-4682-A4DF-B69358F1F9EE%7D

[William Anthony]

OJ Simpson transferred from Vegas to Nevada prison
By KEN RITTER – 15 hours ago

LAS VEGAS (AP) — O.J. Simpson was transferred Monday from jail to a Nevada state prison to begin serving nine to 33 years for his felony convictions in a gunpoint confrontation with two sports memorabilia dealers, a state corrections official said.

Simpson, 61, arrived at High Desert State Prison in Indian Springs, Department of Corrections spokeswoman Suzanne Pardee said. The all-male medium security prison, about 45 miles northwest of Las Vegas, has 3,000 beds and serves as the intake center for all new southern Nevada prison inmates.

"It went as expected," said Simpson lawyer Yale Galanter, who said he knew Simpson had been due to be moved sometime this week from the Clark County jail. "We're actually expecting that he'll be assigned to one of the southern Nevada prisons."

Simpson trial co-defendant Clarence "C.J." Stewart remained Monday at the Clark County Detention Center, jail records showed.

Stewart, 54, received 7 1/2 to 27 years when he and Simpson were sentenced Friday on 10 charges by Judge Jackie Glass in Las Vegas.

A Clark County District Court jury found the two men guilty Oct. 3 of 12 charges, including kidnapping, armed robbery, assault with a deadly weapon, burglary and conspiracy in the Sept. 13, 2007, confrontation. The judge dismissed two felony coercion charges at sentencing.

Simpson, Stewart and four former co-defendants were accused of robbing two memorabilia dealers at gunpoint in a cramped room at the Palace Station casino hotel.

Simpson insisted he only wanted to retrieve items that he said had been stolen from him in the years after he was acquitted of murder in the 1994 slayings of his ex-wife, Nicole Brown Simpson, and her friend Ronald Goldman in Los Angeles.

The four former co-defendants — Michael McClinton, Walter Alexander, Charles Cashmore and Charles Ehrlich — face sentencing Tuesday morning before Glass. Each pleaded guilty to reduced felony charges and testified against Simpson and Stewart in return for a chance at probation instead of prison.

McClinton faces up to 11 years for robbery and conspiracy to commit robbery. Alexander faces up to six years for conspiracy to commit robbery, but received a promise that prosecutors would argue for a suspended sentence. Ehrlich faces up to five years for attempted burglary and attempted accessory to robbery. Cashmore faces up to five years for accessory to robbery.

State prisons chief Howard Skolnik has said Simpson and Stewart would spend their first 21 days in prison undergoing inmate intake evaluations before they are assigned to a prison to serve their sentences.

For those three weeks, the daily routine is mostly boredom, Skolnik said. Inmates are allowed five hours a day outside their cells, and no mail or parcel deliveries. Only their lawyers may visit.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5iUNgbOr-2bnpFUX0MiII6je2CkRAD94UPTV80

Well,

I guess this prove what you don't know's posts wrong about Simpson remaining in jail. Thanks.

[martin II]

OJ Simpson transferred from Vegas to Nevada prison
By KEN RITTER – 15 hours ago

LAS VEGAS (AP) — O.J. Simpson was transferred Monday from jail to a Nevada state prison to begin serving nine to 33 years for his felony convictions in a gunpoint confrontation with two sports memorabilia dealers, a state corrections official said.

Simpson, 61, arrived at High Desert State Prison in Indian Springs, Department of Corrections spokeswoman Suzanne Pardee said. The all-male medium security prison, about 45 miles northwest of Las Vegas, has 3,000 beds and serves as the intake center for all new southern Nevada prison inmates.

"It went as expected," said Simpson lawyer Yale Galanter, who said he knew Simpson had been due to be moved sometime this week from the Clark County jail. "We're actually expecting that he'll be assigned to one of the southern Nevada prisons."

Simpson trial co-defendant Clarence "C.J." Stewart remained Monday at the Clark County Detention Center, jail records showed.

Stewart, 54, received 7 1/2 to 27 years when he and Simpson were sentenced Friday on 10 charges by Judge Jackie Glass in Las Vegas.

A Clark County District Court jury found the two men guilty Oct. 3 of 12 charges, including kidnapping, armed robbery, assault with a deadly weapon, burglary and conspiracy in the Sept. 13, 2007, confrontation. The judge dismissed two felony coercion charges at sentencing.

Simpson, Stewart and four former co-defendants were accused of robbing two memorabilia dealers at gunpoint in a cramped room at the Palace Station casino hotel.

Simpson insisted he only wanted to retrieve items that he said had been stolen from him in the years after he was acquitted of murder in the 1994 slayings of his ex-wife, Nicole Brown Simpson, and her friend Ronald Goldman in Los Angeles.

The four former co-defendants — Michael McClinton, Walter Alexander, Charles Cashmore and Charles Ehrlich — face sentencing Tuesday morning before Glass. Each pleaded guilty to reduced felony charges and testified against Simpson and Stewart in return for a chance at probation instead of prison.

McClinton faces up to 11 years for robbery and conspiracy to commit robbery. Alexander faces up to six years for conspiracy to commit robbery, but received a promise that prosecutors would argue for a suspended sentence. Ehrlich faces up to five years for attempted burglary and attempted accessory to robbery. Cashmore faces up to five years for accessory to robbery.

State prisons chief Howard Skolnik has said Simpson and Stewart would spend their first 21 days in prison undergoing inmate intake evaluations before they are assigned to a prison to serve their sentences.

For those three weeks, the daily routine is mostly boredom, Skolnik said. Inmates are allowed five hours a day outside their cells, and no mail or parcel deliveries. Only their lawyers may visit.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5iUNgbOr-2bnpFUX0MiII6je2CkRAD94UPTV80

You instructed me that the election was over and i should MOVE ON. The trial is over so you should MOVE ON

[weezer]

You instructed me that the election was over and i should MOVE ON. The trial is over so you should MOVE ON

actually, it's not and the guys facing sentencing this morning would probably have their feelings hurt if they knew their future was of no concern to you. :no:

[William Anthony]

actually, it's not and the guys facing sentencing this morning would probably have their feelings hurt if they knew their future was of no concern to you. :no:

Believe it or not Simpson's future is of no concern to me. However, the principles of law are. I'll bet you are not as concerned about their future as you are Simpson's. :);):cool:

[weezer]

JAILHOUSE SNACKS:

O.J. Simpson bought Snickers for other inmates
Lawyer: Retired NFL player treated other jail mates well while waiting for sentencing
By Melissa Arseniuk

Mon, Dec 8, 2008 (2 a.m.)

O.J. Simpson trial - stories and photos
O.J. Simpson is quickly becoming one of Nevada’s most popular prisoners. . ." ;)

http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2008/dec/08/oj-simpson-bought-snickers-other-inmates/

[William Anthony]

It is better to be a big fish in a small pond than a frog stuck on the shore of hatred, imho. Wouldn't you agree?

[weezer]

Updated: 12/09/08 07:44 AM
COMMENTARY
Jeff Simon: The O.J. aura runs its course
By Jeff Simon
News Arts Editor

Robert Kardashian was 59 when he died in 2003. There is a whole generation now that, if it knows him at all, knows him distantly as the sire of a reality TV show family featuring daughter Kim, the TMZ sex tape diva and anatomically implausible contestant on “Dancing with the Stars.”

To me, Kardashian was the most remarkable figure in the whole O. J. Simpson trial. And the reason he was so unforgettable has been hiding in plain sight for 13 years.

Remember that Kardashian was the Simpson friend who carried O. J.’s possibly incriminating bag after the football star flew back to L. A. from Chicago; Kardashian was the one who read O. J.’s “suicide” note to the cameras when O. J. took his slo-mo Bronco ride with Al Cowlings rather than turn himself in.

Kardashian, to me, is the star of the most frequently played film clip of the past two decades. He is standing right in front of O. J. while the off-camera court clerk, nervously fumbling Simpson’s full name, reads the original trial verdict of “not guilty” to the world.

My eyes lock on Kardashian every time it’s replayed. At that second, with “not guilty” still barely trailing from the clerk’s lips, these are the reactions: O. J. beams in heartfelt gratitude at the jury; a joyous Johnny Cochran slams a big, avuncular, congratulatory “We did it!” paw on O. J.’s shoulder; and Kardashian’s eyes widen, and his jaw literally drops as he turns around to the case’s principals with an expression that clearly says, “My God, do you believe THAT?”

I don’t think there’s an actor on earth good enough to mimic that utterly spontaneous expression of utterly ill-concealed astonishment from one of the very few people in the world who was probably privy to the facts from the beginning.

When, in a book, Kardashian later “confessed” to “doubts” about O. J.’s innocence, it was perhaps the most monumentally unnecessary redundancy in the whole case. His opinion of the verdict has been staring us in the face for 13 years, every time that clip is run. . .

The original case is almost as dead as Robert Kardashian."

http://www.buffalonews.com/494/story/517864.html

[William Anthony]

You never cease to amaze me with your callousness. Example.

'The original case is almost as dead as Robert Kardashian."

Well, the original case is dead, unless they continue to investigate and come up with someone, other than Simpson, to charge for the murders. In anticipation, now you did not make the comment but that did not stop you from redacting it. Karma, revenge, hatred.

[tv]

You never cease to amaze me with your callousness. Example.

'The original case is almost as dead as Robert Kardashian."

Well, the original case is dead, unless they continue to investigate and come up with someone, other than Simpson, to charge for the murders. In anticipation, now you did not make the comment but that did not stop you from redacting it. Karma, revenge, hatred.
A bit of an overreaction.

[weezer]

You never cease to amaze me with your callousness. Example.

'The original case is almost as dead as Robert Kardashian."

Well, the original case is dead, unless they continue to investigate and come up with someone, other than Simpson, to charge for the murders. In anticipation, now you did not make the comment but that did not stop you from redacting it. Karma, revenge, hatred.

my, my, my -- I just can't please you can I? when I do redact, you chide me and when I don't, you chide me. :shrug: guess I'll just have to give up. ;-)

[weezer]

has anyone heard what time these are scheduled for?

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

http://www.ktla.com/landing_topstori...71&feedID=1283

"Galanter and Bryson said they intend to appeal their clients' convictions. But they postponed plans to file notices of appeal Friday, after Glass asked them attend a Tuesday morning restitution hearing concerning the items stolen from memorabilia peddlers Bruce Fromong and Alfred Beardsley.

The hearing will coincide with sentencings for four former co-defendants in the case who took plea deals and testified against Simpson and Stewart. Michael McClinton, Charles Cashmore, Walter Alexander and Charles Ehrlich each could get probation or prison time. McClinton could get up to 11 years; the others face less."

[William Anthony]

my, my, my -- I just can't please you can I? when I do redact, you chide me and when I don't, you chide me. :shrug: guess I'll just have to give up. ;-)

Just use better judgment, despite your inexperience. :)

[weezer]

orenthal's posse being sentenced now

[Kayleighjo]

You never cease to amaze me with your callousness. Example.

'The original case is almost as dead as Robert Kardashian."

Well, the original case is dead, unless they continue to investigate and come up with someone, other than Simpson, to charge for the murders. In anticipation, now you did not make the comment but that did not stop you from redacting it. Karma, revenge, hatred.

Is there anyone on this board that you actually like other than martin? And how come you never post directly to him that his callousness never ceases to amaze you when he does things like calls the Goldmans gold diggers and things like that?

I think you're afraid of offending your greatest ally.

[William Anthony]

orenthal's posse being sentenced now

Gettie up, yahoo!

[William Anthony]

Is there anyone on this board that you actually like other than martin? And how come you never post directly to him that his callousness never ceases to amaze you when he does things like calls the Goldmans gold diggers and things like that?

I think you're afraid of offending your greatest ally.

I thought you said, you did not want me to talk to Martin. Have you changed your mind?

[Kayleighjo]

I thought you said, you did not want me to talk to Martin. Have you changed your mind?

I don't consider "talking to martin" being the same as commenting on his dumb and hateful posts.

[William Anthony]

I don't consider "talking to martin" being the same as commenting on his dumb and hateful posts.

That inexact language thing, again. :)

[Kayleighjo]

That inexact language thing, again. :)

LOL! Seriously though, I don't get it. martin gets by on your blanket posts to no one in particular where you say you don't condone such and such while the rest of get the outright hits.

[William Anthony]

A bit of an overreaction.

I think it is a matter of taste.

[William Anthony]

LOL! Seriously though, I don't get it. martin gets by on your blanket posts to no one in particular where you say you don't condone such and such while the rest of get the outright hits.

Okay, I have explained that I do not agree with victim bashing, and that included members of their families (in case tv dinner is lurking, I do not mean that they are victims of the crime) as well as Simpson's family. What caused me to join were the negative posts about the criminal jury. I am not going to rehash who did what and will say that Martin gets as good as he puts out. For a while I thought the board was going to change but entered one and it soon went back to the status quo. When I say I don't condone such things they are meant for all, who engage in them, including me. We are all human and make mistakes. Granted some more often than others. Some just want to inflame and bait and when they make racial posts I take the bait. There is an effort to want me to stop after the racial posts have been made and I respond. As for one, I have not yet begun to fight. I don't consider them as hits and, yes, I like you or I would not have asked you to try the friendship thing.

[martin II]

orenthal's posse being sentenced now

ALL got suspended sentences.no jail time. The set up is complete.

[martin II]

actually, it's not and the guys facing sentencing this morning would probably have their feelings hurt if they knew their future was of no concern to you. :no:

Dodge ball again.

[martin II]

Okay, I have explained that I do not agree with victim bashing, and that included members of their families (in case tv dinner is lurking, I do not mean that they are victims of the crime) as well as Simpson's family. What caused me to join were the negative posts about the criminal jury. I am not going to rehash who did what and will say that Martin gets as good as he puts out. For a while I thought the board was going to change but entered one and it soon went back to the status quo. When I say I don't condone such things they are meant for all, who engage in them, including me. We are all human and make mistakes. Granted some more often than others. Some just want to inflame and bait and when they make racial posts I take the bait. There is an effort to want me to stop after the racial posts have been made and I respond. As for one, I have not yet begun to fight. I don't consider them as hits and, yes, I like you or I would not have asked you to try the friendship thing.


OJ. his mother, daddy, children. gilr friend, friends and lawyers are open game for hateful, mean attacks by people that obviously have a abundance of personal problems and need to vent against anyone connected with oj.

But when fred is identified by his actions as a person seeking only money
the person making that comments is also attacked.

I pay no attention at all to the reckless one.
martin II

[Big Ben]

Sickness? You should see a doctor.

Doc Johnson told me that there was no cure for the madness. Take two aspirin and go lay down. While resting I just listened to some more absurdity coming from the Clark County D.A. talking about how he offered Simpson a deal to mitigate the additional madness of not only allowing Riccio to go free but now all of the other gun toting defendants.

My god! It's so unbelievable! The madness is just unprecedented!
My country tis of thee, sweet land of liberty! Of thee I sing!

The only doctor that could possibly explain the level of madness in this country is Dr. Suesse.

[Big Ben]

Years ago, I had a talk with some younger Whites after hearing them make remarks about Blacks migrating here and taking jobs. They were raised in the suburbs. I asked them had they heard of slavery and they said no. I asked them had they seen Roots and they said their parents would not let them watch it. Whether they were telling the truth or not I will never know but it was obvious to me that they were oblivious to certain things.

Well, There you go!

[Kayleighjo]

I'm sick because I know that Ron Goldman has a criminal jacket that is thicker that a "Subway Sandwich" and LA Law enforcement officials keep rendering sorry ass excuses for disallowing a thorough examination of it.


This caught my eye. Do you know at all what's in it? To me that's what would determine any relevance. If say his file is just thick with stuff like multiple DWI's, traffic violations, shoplifting, ect ... then I'm not sure why that matters.

If it's filled with more serious and ominous things that could show a possible connection having to do with his murder then I'd be all for opening it up and having a look.

[Big Ben]

PRESS RELEASE
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"JUICED" is truly a must-see video experience that gives you the most revealing access ever into O.J. Simpson
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http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/OJ-Simpson-Stars-New-

Congratulations, Weezer, I see that you have buried your hostilities and have been born again and finally found a commercial video you don't mind promoting on the CL message board! Big ups to you, Weezer!

[martin II]

Congratulations, Weezer, I see that you have buried your hostilities and have been born again and finally found a commercial video you don't mind promoting on the CL message board! Big ups to you, Weezer!

Maby weezer is asking for a $5.00 kick back.

[Big Ben]

This caught my eye. Do you know at all what's in it? To me that's what would determine any relevance. If say his file is just thick with stuff like multiple DWI's, traffic violations, shoplifting, ect ... then I'm not sure why that matters.

If it's filled with more serious and ominous things that could show a possible connection having to do with his murder then I'd be all for opening it up and having a look.

Do you know at all what's in it?

No, I don't know what's in it.

I functioned as the debriefing officer for the day at OMIG and took notes.
Doc Johnson's brother came back to the OMIG office on 10/25/2000 in L.A. from a frustrating investigative day at the Malibu Municipal Court House where Goldman's file, 91C00362 The People v. Ronald Lyle Goldman is kept. This was the 2nd day he drove out there. The 1st day clerks lied and said the case file no longer existed and was destroyed in 1996. He asked to see the case file because Goldman's docket sheet showed he had run up $16 thousand dollars in arrest warrants on 91C00362, an otherwise light weight misdemeanor traffic case, by failing to show up for arraignment for 3 years.

What they didn't know was that he had already arranged to have it pulled by another clerk who was out to lunch. He returned to L.A. called her and she said that it had been removed and put in an unusual place. He had her put it on her desk and returned the 2nd day. She wasn't at her desk, so he gave the case file number and asked another window clerk to retrieve it from her desk.

He described it, (6 inches) and the problem the clerk employee had trying to slide it through the 2 inch customer service window. He described how he was treated by clerk office employees who opened it and noticed the file had confidential stamped inside when they buzzed him into an ante room next to the customer service windows to hand the file through an open window. We prepared certified letters to 4 judges who handled the case file for 91C00362.
Three months later Johnson's brother returned and was told that the file was protected by CAL. Gov't Code 6254(f).

Another OMIG investigator finally received a letter from the LAPD stating that the Goldman file was protected from public examination by 6254(f).

If say his file is just thick with stuff like multiple DWI's, traffic violations, shoplifting, ect ... then I'm not sure why that matters.

Our position at OMIG is that all criminal information is public information, several of our staff have performed background checks for the government and many other clients that must show due diligence in checking one's background before granting employment, i.e. pedophiles wanting employment at daycare centers, embezzlers looking for bank teller positions, etc. Therefore there should be no reason for obstructing access to Goldman's criminal file certainly now that he is deceased. The fact that 6254(f) is used to protect the criminal records of confidential informants or "snitches" only exacerbates the justification for their refusal, imo.

We, OMIG, believe in doing our due diligence so regardless of whether it may only contain petit misdemeanors under the provisions of the Cal. Public Documents Act we'd like to exercise or right to see it so that we don't have to make presumptive statements which have become so commonplace regarding the whole Simpson matter.

[martin II]

weezer

please correct your pal.
WTH does this mean

"If say his file is just thick with '....
don't forget to inform tv dinner and breakfast.

[weezer]

"Glass still has to decide restitution in the case a schedule a hearing on that for Friday morning."

http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/12/09/simpson.codefendants/index.html

[weezer]

http://www.doc.nv.gov/notis/detail.php?offender_id=1027820

[martin II]

http://www.doc.nv.gov/notis/detail.php?offender_id=1027820

The case is over.everyone knows the outcome.

[weezer]

The case is over.everyone knows the outcome.

just wanted you to know where he was in case you wanted to write. :biggrin:

[martin II]

just wanted you to know where he was in case you wanted to write. :biggrin:

Based on you interest, i get the feeling you have applied for a visitors past to take oj a peach pie as soon as you can get approved. let me know how it turned out.

[weezer]

Based on you interest, i get the feeling you have applied for a visitors past to take oj a peach pie as soon as you can get approved. let me know how it turned out.

nah -- it's against the rules for me to associate with known felons :tongue:

BTW, what a visitors 'past'?

[weezer]

OJ Simpson transferred from Vegas to Nevada prison
By KEN RITTER, Associated Press Writer Ken Ritter, Mon Dec 8, 6:05 pm ET AP –

O.J. Simpson was transferred Monday from jail to a Nevada state prison to begin serving nine to 33 years for his felony convictions in a gunpoint confrontation with two sports memorabilia dealers, a state corrections official said. . .

State prisons chief Howard Skolnik has said Simpson and Stewart would spend their first 21 days in prison undergoing inmate intake evaluations before they are assigned to a prison to serve their sentences.

For those three weeks, the daily routine is mostly boredom, Skolnik said. Inmates are allowed five hours a day outside their cells, and no mail or parcel deliveries. Only their lawyers may visit . . ."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081208/ap_on_re_us/oj_simpson

[weezer]

New Pic: O.J. Simpson's Booking Photo

http://www.etonline.com/news/2008/12/68670/

[weezer]

". . .I was teaching at the University of Southern California at the time that O J Simpson was its star running back, and I remember those heroic days when the young man seemed unstoppable, spirited, gifted. . .

My wish for Simpson is that he rediscover, in the time of his imprisonment, the dedication that characterized his power on the football field. I have read that he has gained popularity among his fellow-prisoners by buying candy to pass out to them. Wrong. He's misguided if he thinks that rehabilitation has to do with popularity. It was this false sense of himself, in my judgment, that set him off on the wrong path in the first place. No, if he's ever to redeem himself as a man, he must first acknowledge some unpalatable truths about himself and drop the false protestations and pretenses that have clearly served him badly until now. He must accept unqualified responsibility for his actions, and cease claiming innocence as he continued to do most recently in court.

That done, and honestly done, this man must find within himself the source of some act of service to which he can dedicate himself without thought for profit, popularity or advancement and into which he can channel the energy of what remains of his life. Perhaps then this sad remnant of what was once a hero would stand to recover his profoundly misunderstood manhood as well as his lost soul. . ."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/peter-clothier/oj-simpson-and-masculine_b_149701.html

[weezer]

Andy Ostroy
Posted December 9, 2008 | 11:05 AM (EST)

The Butcher of Bundy Finally Goes to Prison: Thoughts on O.J. Simpson From the Husband of a Murder Victim

"O.J. Simpson has many labels: football star, actor, Madison Avenue pitchman. But the one moniker that sticks most in the minds of many is murderer. However, despite reams of DNA, physical and circumstantial evidence proving that on June 12th, 1994 he savagely butchered and killed his ex-wife Nicole Brown Simpson and her friend Ron Goldman, the disgraced former legend was fully acquitted thanks to a lame jury, an inept LAPD, a star-struck judge and a masterful carnival-barker of a lead defense attorney with a magic glove "that would not fit." This tragic tale had no Cinderella ending. . ."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/andy-ostroy/the-butcher-of-bundy-fina_b_149208.html

[William Anthony]

This surely seems like an unbiased report.

[William Anthony]

Andy Ostroy
Posted December 9, 2008 | 11:05 AM (EST)

The Butcher of Bundy Finally Goes to Prison: Thoughts on O.J. Simpson From the Husband of a Murder Victim

"O.J. Simpson has many labels: football star, actor, Madison Avenue pitchman. But the one moniker that sticks most in the minds of many is murderer. However, despite reams of DNA, physical and circumstantial evidence proving that on June 12th, 1994 he savagely butchered and killed his ex-wife Nicole Brown Simpson and her friend Ron Goldman, the disgraced former legend was fully acquitted thanks to a lame jury, an inept LAPD, a star-struck judge and a masterful carnival-barker of a lead defense attorney with a magic glove "that would not fit." This tragic tale had no Cinderella ending. . ."


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/andy-ostroy/the-butcher-of-bundy-fina_b_149208.html

I wonder why the author did not mention the conduct of Judge Judie Glass.

[One2Snoop]

I wonder why the author did not mention the conduct of Judge Judie Glass.

From what little I know about Judge Judie, she only deals with small claims court issues sensationalized on TV, so your point is what regarding Judge Judie? Not sure thats a fair assessment on your part regarding this circus, other than saying you think the judge in this case should be compared to Judge Judie? You're so bad. :punch:

I've been reading this thread and your posts long enough to know, you know the media and news outlets are biased. No doubt about it.

Although I believe Simpson is guilty of killing Nicole and Ron and I was shocked as all get out when the verdict was read it has nothing to do with his current situation.
There's no way to excuse away OJ's behavior and his actions in this situation. It's on hotel video and tape recorded via cell phone. He orchastrated/robbed/and told his coherts - no one's to leave this room. He should be held accountable for those actions. Does his sentence reflect those criminal actions? I don't know? :shrug: Although I do know, I don't agree with the fact that his coherts got lighter sentences/probabtion and believe they should be held accountable and receive the same sentence he did. IMO/JMO.

[martin II]

From what little I know about Judge Judie, she only deals with small claims court issues sensationalized on TV, so your point is what regarding Judge Judie? Not sure thats a fair assessment on your part regarding this circus, other than saying you think the judge in this case should be compared to Judge Judie? You're so bad. :punch:

I've been reading this thread and your posts long enough to know, you know the media and news outlets are biased. No doubt about it.

Although I believe Simpson is guilty of killing Nicole and Ron and I was shocked as all get out when the verdict was read it has nothing to do with his current situation.
There's no way to excuse away OJ's behavior and his actions in this situation. It's on hotel video and tape recorded via cell phone. He orchastrated/robbed/and told his coherts - no one's to leave this room. He should be held accountable for those actions. Does his sentence reflect those criminal actions? I don't know? :shrug: Although I do know, I don't agree with the fact that his coherts got lighter sentences/probabtion and believe they should be held accountable and receive the same sentence he did. IMO/JMO.

I believe 'no body leaves the room" was a stretch and the prosecution overcharged on kidnapping especially since Asportation was ignored by the judge.The prosecution can always use the strick standard of the law or something less.Here they used the strick reading because their motive was to overcharge.
The fact that all the others got probation for their lies just shows the unfairness of the judge and the prosecution in this case. These probations did not give the people of Nevada justice.imo

[William Anthony]

From what little I know about Judge Judie, she only deals with small claims court issues sensationalized on TV, so your point is what regarding Judge Judie? Not sure thats a fair assessment on your part regarding this circus, other than saying you think the judge in this case should be compared to Judge Judie? You're so bad. :punch:

I've been reading this thread and your posts long enough to know, you know the media and news outlets are biased. No doubt about it.

Although I believe Simpson is guilty of killing Nicole and Ron and I was shocked as all get out when the verdict was read it has nothing to do with his current situation.
There's no way to excuse away OJ's behavior and his actions in this situation. It's on hotel video and tape recorded via cell phone. He orchastrated/robbed/and told his coherts - no one's to leave this room. He should be held accountable for those actions. Does his sentence reflect those criminal actions? I don't know? :shrug: Although I do know, I don't agree with the fact that his coherts got lighter sentences/probabtion and believe they should be held accountable and receive the same sentence he did. IMO/JMO.

Judge Judie Glass had Bert throw Fumong out of court.

[Kayleighjo]

Do you know at all what's in it?

No, I don't know what's in it.

I functioned as the debriefing officer for the day at OMIG and took notes.
Doc Johnson's brother came back to the OMIG office on 10/25/2000 in L.A. from a frustrating investigative day at the Malibu Municipal Court House where Goldman's file, 91C00362 The People v. Ronald Lyle Goldman is kept. This was the 2nd day he drove out there. The 1st day clerks lied and said the case file no longer existed and was destroyed in 1996. He asked to see the case file because Goldman's docket sheet showed he had run up $16 thousand dollars in arrest warrants on 91C00362, an otherwise light weight misdemeanor traffic case, by failing to show up for arraignment for 3 years.

What they didn't know was that he had already arranged to have it pulled by another clerk who was out to lunch. He returned to L.A. called her and she said that it had been removed and put in an unusual place. He had her put it on her desk and returned the 2nd day. She wasn't at her desk, so he gave the case file number and asked another window clerk to retrieve it from her desk.

He described it, (6 inches) and the problem the clerk employee had trying to slide it through the 2 inch customer service window. He described how he was treated by clerk office employees who opened it and noticed the file had confidential stamped inside when they buzzed him into an ante room next to the customer service windows to hand the file through an open window. We prepared certified letters to 4 judges who handled the case file for 91C00362.
Three months later Johnson's brother returned and was told that the file was protected by CAL. Gov't Code 6254(f).

Another OMIG investigator finally received a letter from the LAPD stating that the Goldman file was protected from public examination by 6254(f).

If say his file is just thick with stuff like multiple DWI's, traffic violations, shoplifting, ect ... then I'm not sure why that matters.

Our position at OMIG is that all criminal information is public information, several of our staff have performed background checks for the government and many other clients that must show due diligence in checking one's background before granting employment, i.e. pedophiles wanting employment at daycare centers, embezzlers looking for bank teller positions, etc. Therefore there should be no reason for obstructing access to Goldman's criminal file certainly now that he is deceased. The fact that 6254(f) is used to protect the criminal records of confidential informants or "snitches" only exacerbates the justification for their refusal, imo.

We, OMIG, believe in doing our due diligence so regardless of whether it may only contain petit misdemeanors under the provisions of the Cal. Public Documents Act we'd like to exercise or right to see it so that we don't have to make presumptive statements which have become so commonplace regarding the whole Simpson matter.

I get that it's supposed to be a matter of public record, I'm just asking why it would matter if the criminal charges he's got are things like drunk driving or traffic violations-would you consider those things related to his murder? I do know he had bench warrants for failing to appear in court on traffic violations.

If I recall, there was discussion about the protection code that you're talking about and and that code protects more than just files on informants/snitches. I'll look it up.

[weezer]

Judge Judie Glass had Bert throw Fumong out of court.

it's Judge Jackie Glass and the person removed from the court and building was Fromong.

[William Anthony]

it's Judge Jackie Glass and the person removed from the court and building was Fromong.

No, it's judge Judie Glass but you are right about the rest.

[tv]

it's Judge Jackie Glass and the person removed from the court and building was Fromong.

I've noticed over the years that a lot of men don't like Judge Judy because they feel threatened by a strong woman and it seems now that the same thing is happening with Judge Jackie Glass.

[William Anthony]

I've noticed over the years that a lot of men don't like Judge Judy because they feel threatened by a strong woman and it seems now that the same thing is happening with Judge Jackie Glass.

Good morning woman,

Sometimes obnoxious is mistaken for strong. :)

[tv]

Good morning woman,

Sometimes obnoxious is mistaken for strong. :)Oh, I see, strong woman are obnoxious. How equable of you. :)

[weezer]

No, it's judge Judie Glass but you are right about the rest.

who is judge Judie Glass and what does she have to do with orenthal?

[William Anthony]

Oh, I see, strong woman are obnoxious. How equable of you. :)

Again you misunderstand. A strong woman displays her strength in ways that are not obnoxious and remains classy throughout. I don't want to start a debate on politics. Did you see the interview with the Obama's in their home, when the President Elect claimed that he would miss washing dishes, because he found it soothing? She looked at him and asked in a polite but forceful way, not downing him, when did you ever find do dishes soothing. When asked about what she would do, he had the sense to say he would leave that up to her but wanted her to assist the children in the transition. I forget but she took over the conversation saying basically that she was capable of multi-tasking in a polite but forceful way. I guess what I am saying is tht she was able to be strong while giving due homage to her position.

[William Anthony]

who is judge Judie Glass and what does she have to do with orenthal?

She sentenced him, presided over the trial, will explain retribution and may be overturned on appeal.

[tv]

Again you misunderstand. A strong woman displays her strength in ways that are not obnoxious and remains classy throughout. I don't want to start a debate on politics. Did you see the interview with the Obama's in their home, when the President Elect claimed that he would miss washing dishes, because he found it soothing? She looked at him and asked in a polite but forceful way, not downing him, when did you ever find do dishes soothing. When asked about what she would do, he had the sense to say he would leave that up to her but wanted her to assist the children in the transition. I forget but she took over the conversation saying basically that she was capable of multi-tasking in a polite but forceful way. I guess what I am saying is tht she was able to be strong while giving due homage to her position.

No, I don't misunderstand. It's okay if a woman is strong as long as she behaves in a lady like manner while men have the freedom to be openly strong and obnoxious also if they please. Now we know why that glass ceiling you and martin are so fond of talking about is in place.

[tv]

She sentenced him, presided over the trial, will explain retribution and may be overturned on appeal.

That was Judge Jackie Glass. Is reality tv and reality blurring for you, William?

[William Anthony]

No, I don't misunderstand. It's okay if a woman is strong as long as she behaves in a lady like manner while men have the freedom to be openly strong and obnoxious also if they please. Now we know why that glass ceiling you and martin are so fond of talking about is in place.

I see you missed the part where I addressed the obnoxious behavior of men. I don't think there is a law against being obnoxious but I don't like it whether they are male or female. :) H***, I don't see it but I know I mentioned Judge Joe Brown.

[William Anthony]

That was Judge Jackie Glass. Is reality tv and reality blurring for you, William?

Why, don't you know her first name is Judie? :)

[tv]

Why, don't you know her first name is Judie? :)Which one?

[William Anthony]

Which one?

Both. :)

[weezer]

Both. :)

Judge Jackie Glass
Judge Jackie Glass is a Las Vegas District Court judge

[tv]

Judge Jackie Glass
Judge Jackie Glass is a Las Vegas District Court judge

Thanks, weezer, I gave up. :)

[weezer]

Thanks, weezer, I gave up. :)

you're welcome although I doubt it did any good. we know that with william that when it comes to winning, the truth be damned! :eek:

[William Anthony]

Thanks, weezer, I gave up. :)

Judge Judith Jacquelyn Glass.:)

[weezer]

Judge Judith Jacquelyn Glass.:)

like I said. . .

[tv]

Judge Judith Jacquelyn Glass.:)

I tried googling that but I couldn't find it. Do you have a link?