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[TopGunner]

Sorry to start another thread, but I just caught this and it started 5 minutes ago. John Walsh was just on saying how ISP wouldn't meet with him.

[Trixy]

Thanks. I just got home from work and would have ended up watching boring news.

Oooh his cocky attitude and that pretend to cry voice is being played now. What a fake! He's eyes are black like his soul.

:flamemad:

[deputydi]

Thanks. I just got home from work and would have ended up watching boring news.

Oooh his cocky attitude and that pretend to cry voice is being played now. What a fake! He's eyes are black like his soul.

:flamemad:

I'm still at work! :mad:

[TopGunner]

Thanks. I just got home from work and would have ended up watching boring news.

Oooh his cocky attitude and that pretend to cry voice is being played now. What a fake! He's eyes are black like his soul.

:flamemad:

You know Trix, you're right. He is one BLACK SOUL. Watching his interviews, knowing what we know, is really creepy.

DD - I'll check to see if they're going to repeat this later tonight, hang in there!

[Trixy]

I'm still at work! :mad:

I'm sure it will be repeated.

They just showed the Ps blaming everyone but Scott and telling their lies. Momma P feels "like I live in Natzi Germany". :rolleyes:

[Cadillakin]

I'm sure it will be repeated.

They just showed the Ps blaming everyone but Scott and telling their lies. Momma P feels "like I live in Nazi Germany". :rolleyes:Funny. Phil Spector used that same metaphor.

IMO, the best metaphor for Scott's obvious guilt was by a female writer or comedian who quipped before the trial; "That guy is as guilty as 3 OJ Simpson's".

[TopGunner]

Funny. Phil Spector used that same metaphor.

IMO, the best metaphor for Scott's obvious guilt was by a female writer or comedian who quipped before the trial; "That guy is as guilty as 3 OJ Simpson's".


3 OJ's and 2 Bundy's if you ask me. :tongue:

Geregos is so embarrassing....I find myself cringing on his behalf.

[Lavindar]

I just woke up and am catching it from now. I also TIVO'd it when it reruns at 8 tonight.

[TopGunner]

I just woke up and am catching it from now. I also TIVO'd it when it reruns at 8 tonight.


DD - are you listening? 8:00 PM tonight (which is right now).

[deputydi]

DD - are you listening? 8:00 PM tonight (which is right now).

Just logged on. Thanks. Missed only about 15 min

[onthefence]

Sorry to start another thread, but I just caught this and it started 5 minutes ago. John Walsh was just on saying how ISP wouldn't meet with him.

Can't say I blame Scott on that one. Sorry, but, John Walsh grates on my last nerve.

[TopGunner]

Can't say I blame Scott on that one. Sorry, but, John Walsh grates on my last nerve.

Hi OTF....

I find this an odd thing to say. I don't know how ISP could dislike someone he didn't know, and only wanted to help, and COULD help.

[Lavindar]

Hi OTF....

I find this an odd thing to say. I don't know how ISP could dislike someone he didn't know, and only wanted to help, and COULD help.

i can't imagine anyone thinking Walsh got on their nerves. He has done so much to help catch criminals. I guess Mark Klaas must also be self-serving. Both of these men have turned their own very personal tragedies into doing good deeds for others.

Scott should have at least had better manners than he exhibited. What he did was RUDE at best and ws just another example of how little it mattered to him that his wife and son were missing. That's my opinion

[enlightenme]

DD - are you listening? 8:00 PM tonight (which is right now).

Dang! I missed it again!

I can't believe anyone thinks those TV interviews Scott did put him in a good light. His ego and dishonesty were like neon signs blinking about his head ..."I did it! I did it!"

When he lied to Diane Sawyer that he told LE about Amber "from that first night on", he didn't even blink an eye. Oh yes, there was a man very adept and comfortable with lies!

[TopGunner]

Dang! I missed it again!

I can't believe anyone thinks those TV interviews Scott did put him in a good light. His ego and dishonesty were like neon signs blinking about his head ..."I did it! I did it!"

When he lied to Diane Sawyer that he told LE about Amber "from that first night on", he didn't even blink an eye. Oh yes, there was a man very adept and comfortable with lies!


I totally agree EM. I purposely watched him like a hawk when I knew the quesitons were coming that he lied about, and man........what a pro. As an aside, I try to cut Jackie & Lee some slack (are ya listening March?), because I just wouldn't wish what happened to them on anyone, BUT - when Jackie was telling the press "I love Laci, we all love Laci", I could have popped her one. Knowing what she was really up to behind the scenes during that time "I wish Scott could meet a nice girl like you Lorriane", made it easy to see how lying is like breathing to ISP.

[deputydi]

I don't think it's on E! here. I've been watching something about self-indulgent Hip Hop Wives.

[Otter]

Can't say I blame Scott on that one. Sorry, but, John Walsh grates on my last nerve.

Hey, welcome! :seeya: I don't watch his show myself, but I understand its the most popular show in jails and prisons. That's where some of the best leads come from.

John Walsh's child Adam was snatched and murdered. The little boy's head was found in a canal in Florida, so I have tons of empathy for him since he's devoted his life to justice. Why, if he's so annoying do you do you watch his show?

How do you feel about Mark Klaas and his comments about SP? Actually, his denials to say to say it more clearly.

[enlightenme]

I don't think it's on E! here. I've been watching something about self-indulgent Hip Hop Wives.

That same thing is on here DD. It was on at 3pm PST here and I missed it. I checked online and it doesn't repeat again, at least not this week.

In one of Scott's TV interviews, he calls Laci a missing "sister, daughter, cousin, niece, wife". It's interesting that he uses "wife" last.

Scottspeak. He talks different than anyone I've ever met, that's for sure!

[TopGunner]

I don't think it's on E! here. I've been watching something about self-indulgent Hip Hop Wives.

SO sorry DD! I just assumed Lavindar meant it was repeating at 8, but I've got the hip-hop wives on too. I do hope it repeats, it was really good.

[deputydi]

That same thing is on here DD. It was on at 3pm PST here and I missed it. I checked online and it doesn't repeat again, at least not this week.

In one of Scott's TV interviews, he calls Laci a missing "sister, daughter, cousin, niece, wife". It's interesting that he uses "wife" last.

Scottspeak. He talks different than anyone I've ever met, that's for sure!
You mean you didn't understand "Violence toward women is unapproachable"? Or, "We men, we cut each other". Yes, his speech is different alright.

[onthefence]

Hi OTF....

I find this an odd thing to say. I don't know how ISP could dislike someone he didn't know, and only wanted to help, and COULD help.

What does ISP mean?

I don't know John Walsh and I don't care for him much -anymore. I used to really admire the work he had done in regards to helping to bring media attention to missing children's cases, etc.-until this case, actually. It changed the way I see him mainly because he very publicly insinuated himself into this case (which i kinda felt was self serving), and when he was rebuffed in this case he disses the person who rebuffed him on national television. If he only wanted only to help, it would not have been handled in what i felt was pretty self serving and manipulative, public way, imo. If it were me, and I were in the same situation (very high profile case), I would be leery of most people and wouldn't want someone publicly insinuating themselves into my life-via a public request for an interview, under the guise of trying to help, unless I asked for their help. It's just my opinion, not a character flaw.

[Lavindar]

SO sorry DD! I just assumed Lavindar meant it was repeating at 8, but I've got the hip-hop wives on too. I do hope it repeats, it was really good.


You guys are right and I am wrong. I must have hit the wrong button, dangit

[deputydi]

What does ISP mean?

I don't know John Walsh and I don't care for him much -anymore. I used to really admire the work he had done in regards to helping to bring media attention to missing children's cases, etc.-until this case, actually. It changed the way I see him mainly because he very publicly insinuated himself into this case (which i kinda felt was self serving), and when he was rebuffed in this case he disses the person who rebuffed him on national television. If he only wanted only to help, it would not have been handled in what i felt was pretty self serving and manipulative, public way, imo. If it were me, and I were in the same situation (very high profile case), I would be leery of most people and wouldn't want someone publicly insinuating themselves into my life-via a public request for an interview, under the guise of trying to help, unless I asked for their help. It's just my opinion, not a character flaw.
If it were me and someone I loved had suddenly disappeared, I'd be greatful for anyone offering help. John Walsh didn't need "this case" to promote himself or his show. He has done wonderful work in bringing clever criminals to justice and I salute him for that.

[TopGunner]

What does ISP mean?

I don't know John Walsh and I don't care for him much -anymore. I used to really admire the work he had done in regards to helping to bring media attention to missing children's cases, etc.-until this case, actually. It changed the way I see him mainly because he very publicly insinuated himself into this case (which i kinda felt was self serving), and when he was rebuffed in this case he disses the person who rebuffed him on national television. If he only wanted only to help, it would not have been handled in what i felt was pretty self serving and manipulative, public way, imo. If it were me, and I were in the same situation (very high profile case), I would be leery of most people and wouldn't want someone publicly insinuating themselves into my life-via a public request for an interview, under the guise of trying to help, unless I asked for their help. It's just my opinion, not a character flaw.


ISP = Inmate Scott Peterson

Sorry OTF, I appreciate your response, but Walsh has a rock solid reptuation that he's EARNED for success in these situations. I think it was ISP who was self-serving and manipulative. Who would turn down the help of John Walsh who could do more in ONE day that 6 billion brochures hung per minute, for 6 months could ever do?

I think it's obvious ISP avoided him for no other reason than he was guilty.

[onthefence]

Hey, welcome! :seeya: I don't watch his show myself, but I understand its the most popular show in jails and prisons. That's where some of the best leads come from.

John Walsh's child Adam was snatched and murdered. The little boy's head was found in a canal in Florida, so I have tons of empathy for him since he's devoted his life to justice. Why, if he's so annoying do you do you watch his show?

How do you feel about Mark Klaas and his comments about SP? Actually, his denials to say to say it more clearly.

I don't watch his show anymore. I have empathy and am heartsick for anyone who has lost a child. Can't imagine anything much harder than that. I don't know what Mark Klaas comments are about Scott P, so, I cannot answer this question. I am sure Mark Klaas has an opinion, but, so do most people about this case. His doesn't mean any more to me because he has a daughter that was murdered.

[enlightenme]

ISP = Inmate Scott Peterson

Sorry OTF, I appreciate your response, but Walsh has a rock solid reptuation that he's EARNED for success in these situations. I think it was ISP who was self-serving and manipulative. Who would turn down the help of John Walsh who could do more in ONE day that 6 billion brochures hung per minute, for 6 months could ever do?

I think it's obvious ISP avoided him for no other reason than he was guilty.

If my loved one was missing and John Walsh offered to help, I would be falling all over myself and move mountains to get there in time. I would probably get down on my knees and thank him!

It's not surprising to me that someone that supports Scott would change their whole attitude about the great work this man has done, out of love for his murdered son and a desire to help others, simply because he found Scott's behavior odd. It WAS odd! It was the behavior of a guilty man. Such is the dedication and devotion of some of the SIIs, IMO. :shrug:

[onthefence]

ISP = Inmate Scott Peterson

Sorry OTF, I appreciate your response, but Walsh has a rock solid reptuation that he's EARNED for success in these situations. I think it was ISP who was self-serving and manipulative. Who would turn down the help of John Walsh who could do more in ONE day that 6 billion brochures hung per minute, for 6 months could ever do?

I think it's obvious ISP avoided him for no other reason than he was guilty.

After I saw how John Walsh handled Scott P case, I would turn him down,especially if he offered help publicly-i.e-to get himself on tv-if I declined would he just accept that I had my reasons, or would he go on tv saying that because I wouldn't agree to be interviewed by HIM, I must be guilty? Just didn't set well with me at all. sorry.

You may be right about the reason Scott P turned down an interview with him, and I agree that he has the ability to raise awareness in a case that more than most.

I still suspect John Walsh's motives in THIS case, because I dont' think an interview with Scott was necessary if all he really wanted to do was to help find Laci. That's just my opinion. We can agree to disagree on this part :patriot:

[onthefence]

If my loved one was missing and John Walsh offered to help, I would be falling all over myself and move mountains to get there in time. I would probably get down on my knees and thank him!

It's not surprising to me that someone that supports Scott would change their whole attitude about the great work this man has done, out of love for his murdered son and a desire to help others, simply because he found Scott's behavior odd. It WAS odd! It was the behavior of a guilty man. Such is the dedication and devotion of some of the SIIs, IMO. :shrug:

why is it that one is labeled a scott supporter simply because I don't care for the way John Walsh handled this particular case? It really shuts down a potentially good discussion of people just expressing opinions.

[Lavindar]

After I saw how John Walsh handled Scott P case, I would turn him down,especially if he offered help publicly-i.e-to get himself on tv-if I declined would he just accept that I had my reasons, or would he go on tv saying that because I wouldn't agree to be interviewed by HIM, I must be guilty? Just didn't set well with me at all. sorry.

You may be right about the reason Scott P turned down an interview with him, and I agree that he has the ability to raise awareness in a case that more than most.

I still suspect John Walsh's motives in THIS case, because I dont' think an interview with Scott was necessary if all he really wanted to do was to help find Laci. That's just my opinion. We can agree to disagree on this part :patriot:

I don't think John Walsh needed Scott Peterson to get himself on TV.

[deputydi]

After I saw how John Walsh handled Scott P case, I would turn him down,especially if he offered help publicly-i.e-to get himself on tv-if I declined would he just accept that I had my reasons, or would he go on tv saying that because I wouldn't agree to be interviewed by HIM, I must be guilty? Just didn't set well with me at all. sorry.

You may be right about the reason Scott P turned down an interview with him, and I agree that he has the ability to raise awareness in a case that more than most.

I still suspect John Walsh's motives in THIS case, because I dont' think an interview with Scott was necessary if all he really wanted to do was to help find Laci. That's just my opinion. We can agree to disagree on this part :patriot:
What about Scotts motives for agreeing to the interview and blowing him off to go golfing?

[TopGunner]

What about Scotts motives for agreeing to the interview and blowing him off to go golfing?

I have to agree DD. The last thing that ever occured to me was that Walsh had an ulterier motive. It's what he's dedicated his entire life to, it's not like just popped out from nowhere and said "oh, I see opportunity". He's an extremely busy man.................ISP needed him, not the other way around. IMO.

[deputydi]

I have to agree DD. The last thing that ever occured to me was that Walsh had an ulterier motive. It's what he's dedicated his entire life to, it's not like just popped out from nowhere and said "oh, I see opportunity". He's an extremely busy man.................ISP needed him, not the other way around. IMO.
Right. I'm not sure why anyone would question Walsh's motives. He sure didn't do it for the exposure -- is there anyone who doesn't know John Walsh's story and all he's done to put hundreds of criminals behind bars? I will admit that Marc Klaas comes across (to me) a little pompous but I've never questioned his sincerety and I've never questioned his motives.

[Pampster]

After I saw how John Walsh handled Scott P case, I would turn him down,especially if he offered help publicly-i.e-to get himself on tv-if I declined would he just accept that I had my reasons, or would he go on tv saying that because I wouldn't agree to be interviewed by HIM, I must be guilty? Just didn't set well with me at all. sorry.

You may be right about the reason Scott P turned down an interview with him, and I agree that he has the ability to raise awareness in a case that more than most.

I still suspect John Walsh's motives in THIS case, because I dont' think an interview with Scott was necessary if all he really wanted to do was to help find Laci. That's just my opinion. We can agree to disagree on this part :patriot:

It wouldn't matter to me what JW's motives might be. Getting the story of my missing loved one on national TV would be the important thing. I'm sure it wasn't only the way Scott blew him off that convinced John of Scott's guilt, there were other signs. It makes sense to me that John wouldn't bother to go forward with or without an interview with Scott...he knew it was too late to "find" Laci alive.

[Mysteri]

Marc Klass is PURE CLASS, all the way !!

Later in the interview, Rowlands tells Peterson that victim advocates Marc Klass and John Walsh had questioned Peterson's actions in this case.

Peterson: "I have had conversations with both those gentlemen. It is entirely
too selfish of me to defend myself against these accusations. All
the media time should be spent on finding Laci."

Marc Klass would later responded to Peterson's comments.

Klass: "There is no ambiguity in this. I have never in my life spoken to
Scott Peterson. Where he comes off thinking he can make a statement
like that in the public forum and get away with it, I don't know.
It's not the first time. Who does this guy think he is that he can
make these statements, and that they'll go public, and they're obvious lies?"


http://www.statementanalysis.com/speterson/

Just read that SLP is in deep trouble for doing drugs in Q

imo

[Lavindar]

Marc Klass is PURE CLASS, all the way !!

Later in the interview, Rowlands tells Peterson that victim advocates Marc Klass and John Walsh had questioned Peterson's actions in this case.

Peterson: "I have had conversations with both those gentlemen. It is entirely
too selfish of me to defend myself against these accusations. All
the media time should be spent on finding Laci."

Marc Klass would later responded to Peterson's comments.

Klass: "There is no ambiguity in this. I have never in my life spoken to
Scott Peterson. Where he comes off thinking he can make a statement
like that in the public forum and get away with it, I don't know.
It's not the first time. Who does this guy think he is that he can
make these statements, and that they'll go public, and they're obvious lies?"


http://www.statementanalysis.com/speterson/

Just read that SLP is in deep trouble for doing drugs in Q

imo

But Scott never did drugs. Didn't he claim to never even taking an aspirin at one point? I realize that jail time is boring as hell, but still, he has his books and his tv and his cd's to keep him busy. Didn't that article say that he had a "bubba" too? Must be that same one that left the note on his lawn the night of his conviction.

[TopGunner]

Marc Klass is PURE CLASS, all the way !!

Later in the interview, Rowlands tells Peterson that victim advocates Marc Klass and John Walsh had questioned Peterson's actions in this case.

Peterson: "I have had conversations with both those gentlemen. It is entirely
too selfish of me to defend myself against these accusations. All
the media time should be spent on finding Laci."

Marc Klass would later responded to Peterson's comments.

Klass: "There is no ambiguity in this. I have never in my life spoken to
Scott Peterson. Where he comes off thinking he can make a statement
like that in the public forum and get away with it, I don't know.
It's not the first time. Who does this guy think he is that he can
make these statements, and that they'll go public, and they're obvious lies?"


http://www.statementanalysis.com/speterson/

Just read that SLP is in deep trouble for doing drugs in Q

imo


Hey Mysteri, good to see you! Thanks for jogging the memory, I remember Klass saying this and I agree - WHY would ISP get on National TV, knowing the whole world was listening in, and lie like a rug? I thought he wasn't just smart, but REAL smart. I've also read a classic sign of a sociopath is that they'll say (lie) whatever they need to in THAT moment, with no regard for the ramifications later. If I'm understanding this, they're a walking contridiction: Most are very intelligent, yet they do really stupid things. :biggrin:

[Otter]

I don't watch his show anymore. I have empathy and am heartsick for anyone who has lost a child. Can't imagine anything much harder than that. I don't know what Mark Klaas comments are about Scott P, so, I cannot answer this question. I am sure Mark Klaas has an opinion, but, so do most people about this case. His doesn't mean any more to me because he has a daughter that was murdered.

I came across this response before reading to the end of th thread, so my response may be redundant.

DRISP stated that he spoke with Mr. Klaas. Mr. Klaas said it didn't happen. I believe Mr. Klaas. It goes for me to COG, since you aren't aware, may I explain? Mr. K was there to help DRISP get trhough the "cop thing". DRISP would not meet with him. Kinda like his behavior with John Walsh.

His doesn't mean any more to me because he has a daughter that was murdered

That, in my opinion is one the coldest statements ever. *otterturnsthefurnaceon*

I'm still shivering.

[TopGunner]

But Scott never did drugs. Didn't he claim to never even taking an aspirin at one point? I realize that jail time is boring as hell, but still, he has his books and his tv and his cd's to keep him busy. Didn't that article say that he had a "bubba" too? Must be that same one that left the note on his lawn the night of his conviction.

Gee, I don't know how it got here (can't make eye contact), but I'm looking at the Globe article - front page says: "Scott Peterson BUSTED on Death Row" - Caught doing drugs and having GAY SEX with another killer! Plus: What he says about Laci.

It's a really long article, but some of the highlights:

- Providing sexual favors - including oral sex to a very menacing inmate in an attempt to guarantee his safety behind bars.
- Getting high on marijuana that was smuglled into the prison and found hiding in his cell.
- Visited by a mystery woman he's plied (?) with XXX_rated letters and the double murderer claims he's even gotten hot and heavy with her right under the guards noses.

He was busted by prision authorities and sentenced to 40 days of solitary confinement for gay sex and drug offenses. His outrageous behavior came to light in the spring when he was caught romping naked in the showers of an outdoor exercise area with another inmate. Following a basketball game on April 21, one insider says the other inmate blatantly fondled Peterson.

A hearing was set and Peterson's cell was searched a few hours later. That's when a plastic bag containing marijuana was found in an air vent.

His closest friend in prison (aside from gay lover), is Brian Johnsen, another infamous murderer from Modesto. (In the picture, Johnsen looks like a female to me).

"You'd think he'd be professing his innocence just like so many other condemed men on DR" says a source. "You'd think he'd be telling anyone willing to listen that he didn't murder Laci and Conner. But he never mentions Laci or the baby. Never!"

"Mostly he just whines about himself. He's not just a wife-killer and baby-killer, he's a self-centered, heartless creep who cares about himself and nothing else."

[Otter]

why is it that one is labeled a scott supporter simply because I don't care for the way John Walsh handled this particular case? It really shuts down a potentially good discussion of people just expressing opinions.


I stated that I don't watch JW. So ... where would you like this discussion to go? I can't even call him by his first name -- nor do I care for JW's show. What does that label me?

IMO, (if that's okay with you), an "innocent" man threw away a good opportunity to find his missing wife and baby. Squandered it right away. Again, just expressing my opinion on a message board. :)

So, again, what's your opinion about SP lying about Mark Klaas?

[Trixy]

I don't think John Walsh needed Scott Peterson to get himself on TV.
That is because he didn't. :rolleyes:

[Trixy]

I don't watch his show anymore. I have empathy and am heartsick for anyone who has lost a child. Can't imagine anything much harder than that. I don't know what Mark Klaas comments are about Scott P, so, I cannot answer this question. I am sure Mark Klaas has an opinion, but, so do most people about this case. His doesn't mean any more to me because he has a daughter that was murdered.

You are speaking out of both sides of your mouth. You have empathy for somone who lost a child? Yet you bash JW and then bash Mark Klaas.

:rolleyes:

[Trixy]

We need that "don't feed the trolls" sign Adnoid has.

Back on topic.

I laughed yesterday when they showed the Ps during the show. Lee said he would "find the killer". Does he have his eyes closed when he visits Scott?

:shrug:

[JustMyOpinion]

What does ISP mean?

I don't know John Walsh and I don't care for him much -anymore. I used to really admire the work he had done in regards to helping to bring media attention to missing children's cases, etc.-until this case, actually. It changed the way I see him mainly because he very publicly insinuated himself into this case (which i kinda felt was self serving), and when he was rebuffed in this case he disses the person who rebuffed him on national television. If he only wanted only to help, it would not have been handled in what i felt was pretty self serving and manipulative, public way, imo. If it were me, and I were in the same situation (very high profile case), I would be leery of most people and wouldn't want someone publicly insinuating themselves into my life-via a public request for an interview, under the guise of trying to help, unless I asked for their help. It's just my opinion, not a character flaw.

According to John Walsh, Lee Peterson DID ask for his help, and SCOTT spoke with him via phone & scheduled a meeting with him to film a plea for Laci & Conner's safe return ( which is why Walsh and a camera crew showed up at the designated time/location). For Scott to then blow off the meeting ( claiming he was playing golf) was rude, self-serving and indicative of his state of mind, IMO. Walsh did nothing wrong by revealing Scott's conduct, IMO..why would you think Walsh would treat Scott differently than any other primary suspect in a missing person's case he is covering?

[Trixy]

According to John Walsh, Lee Peterson DID ask for his help, and SCOTT spoke with him via phone & scheduled a meeting with him to film a plea for Laci & Conner's safe return ( which is why Walsh and a camera crew showed up at the designated time/location). For Scott to then blow off the meeting ( claiming he was playing golf) was rude, self-serving and indicative of his state of mind, IMO. Walsh did nothing wrong by revealing Scott's conduct, IMO..why would you think Walsh would treat Scott differently than any other primary suspect in a missing person's case he is covering?

You 100% 100 correct. IMO, that poster sure sounds like she as an ax to grind by posting pure misinformation. Sounds like Lee P to me. Blame & bash everyone but Scott. JW must have conspired against Scott as well. The list is always growing. Last I heard the Gs were in on it too even if you haven't been to the state of California.

:seeya:

[adnoid]

According to John Walsh, Lee Peterson DID ask for his help...

Scott himself went on TV and asked us ALL to "look into our hearts" to see if we were doing everything we could to find Laci. So in a sense Scott asked Walsh to help, which Walsh tried to do.

Mind you, Scott needed others to help as he was still using a lot of HIS time trying to get back into Amber's pants. But as his supporters will tell you, that was "admirable" of him.

[Class-Z]

Thanks. I just got home from work and would have ended up watching boring news.

Oooh his cocky attitude and that pretend to cry voice is being played now. What a fake! He's eyes are black like his soul.

:flamemad:

You mean the shark eyes!

[Class-Z]

What does ISP mean?

I don't know John Walsh and I don't care for him much -anymore. I used to really admire the work he had done in regards to helping to bring media attention to missing children's cases, etc.-until this case, actually. It changed the way I see him mainly because he very publicly insinuated himself into this case (which i kinda felt was self serving), and when he was rebuffed in this case he disses the person who rebuffed him on national television. If he only wanted only to help, it would not have been handled in what i felt was pretty self serving and manipulative, public way, imo. If it were me, and I were in the same situation (very high profile case), I would be leery of most people and wouldn't want someone publicly insinuating themselves into my life-via a public request for an interview, under the guise of trying to help, unless I asked for their help. It's just my opinion, not a character flaw.

John Walsh didn't just throw himself into this case, like he needs the publicity..He was asked by the Peterson's for help, then Scott blew him off.

I'm sure he was advised by his attorney not to speak. Walsh would of asked the hard questions and it would of been just that more circumstanial evidence for the pile against him. He would not have been able to control the questions, nor the interview as he did with a couple of others. Walsh would of never gone for that.. Hence, Scott decided golfing was a better option.

Walsh also has years and years of experience with these cases and has a good feel for when someone is lying or not. He never said anything against Scott until after the fact.

[Trixy]

You mean the shark eyes!


I kind of like sharks. Poor things get a bumb rap.

Abyss is more like it.

:eek:

[Trixy]

John Walsh didn't just throw himself into this case, like he needs the publicity..He was asked by the Peterson's for help, then Scott blew him off.

I'm sure he was advised by his attorney not to speak. Walsh would of asked the hard questions and it would of been just that more circumstanial evidence for the pile against him. He would not have been able to control the questions, nor the interview as he did with a couple of others. Walsh would of never gone for that.. Hence, Scott decided golfing was a better option.

Walsh also has years and years of experience with these cases and has a good feel for when someone is lying or not. He never said anything against Scott until after the fact.

:beer: Spot on!

[Class-Z]

I kind of like sharks. Poor things get a bumb rap.

Abyss is more like it.

:eek:

But, they are PREDATORS! :)

[Trixy]

But, they are PREDATORS! :)

I get your point. ;)

[onthefence]

I stated that I don't watch JW. So ... where would you like this discussion to go? I can't even call him by his first name -- nor do I care for JW's show. What does that label me?

:confused: :shrug:

IMO, (if that's okay with you), an "innocent" man threw away a good opportunity to find his missing wife and baby. Squandered it right away. Again, just expressing my opinion on a message board. :)
So, again, what's your opinion about SP lying about Mark Klaas?


why would you think your opinion wasn't OK with me? I just don't appreciate my opinions being minimzied and being labeled a "Scott supporter" simply because I didn't care for the way JWalsh insinuated himself (moo) into this case :confused:. Is anyone who doesn't care for the way JWalsh handles some things an "Scott supporter"?

Based on what was posted above, my opinon about Scott P's alleged statement about talking to both Mark Klass and J Walsh is I don't think he was lying, i think it was a simple misstatement, made during a stressful time. Who knows how many media people he had been talking to?

As far a squandered opportunity to find his pregnant wife,-There was unprecedented media coverage/ "help" from the media in getting coverage of Laci's disappearance. JWalsh is a TV personality, not an investigator, profiler or member of LE, so the only help he could really offer, was media coverage, which was not in short supply, by any standard. The main focus of the media personalities seemed to be on Scott P and ratings-NOT on actually finding/searching for Laci, imo. Nobody in the media/tv personalities needed to interview Scott P if the primary motive was to help find Laci. As I said, Scott P is probably guilty (note my moniker of "on the fence"), and I do empathize with Walsh (and Klass) in the tragedy of the loss of his child in a manner no parent should ever have to. But, doesn't mean that I agree with everyone on the motives, areas of expertise and actions of some media/tv personalities in all instances. Just my opinion Anyhoo, I'm done here. :seeya:

[Pampster]

:confused: :shrug:




why would you think your opinion wasn't OK with me? I just don't appreciate my opinions being minimzied and being labeled a "Scott supporter" simply because I didn't care for the way JWalsh insinuated himself (moo) into this case :confused:. Is anyone who doesn't care for the way JWalsh handles some things an "Scott supporter"?

Based on what was posted above, my opinon about Scott P's alleged statement about talking to both Mark Klass and J Walsh is I don't think he was lying, i think it was a simple misstatement, made during a stressful time. Who knows how many media people he had been talking to?

As far a squandered opportunity to find his pregnant wife,-There was unprecedented media coverage/ "help" from the media in getting coverage of Laci's disappearance. JWalsh is a TV personality, not an investigator, profiler or member of LE, so the only help he could really offer, was media coverage, which was not in short supply, by any standard. The main focus of the media personalities seemed to be on Scott P and ratings-NOT on actually finding/searching for Laci, imo. Nobody in the media/tv personalities needed to interview Scott P if the primary motive was to help find Laci. As I said, Scott P is probably guilty (note my moniker of "on the fence"), and I do empathize with Walsh (and Klass) in the tragedy of the loss of his child in a manner no parent should ever have to. But, doesn't mean that I agree with everyone on the motives, areas of expertise and actions of some media/tv personalities in all instances. Just my opinion Anyhoo, I'm done here. :seeya:


I just can't imagine it. What kind of man, when offered media attention to help find his missing pregnant wife, would say, "No thanks, I have enough. I'd rather go golfing instead."

[TopGunner]

I just can't imagine it. What kind of man, when offered media attention to help find his missing pregnant wife, would say, "No thanks, I have enough. I'd rather go golfing instead."


Oh Pam, I can easily imagine: A guilty kind of man.:seeya:

[Otter]

:confused: :shrug:




why would you think your opinion wasn't OK with me? I just don't appreciate my opinions being minimzied and being labeled a "Scott supporter" simply because I didn't care for the way JWalsh insinuated himself (moo) into this case :confused:. Is anyone who doesn't care for the way JWalsh handles some things an "Scott supporter"?

[COLOR="Black"Nno one minimized your opinion. JW did not insinutate himself into the situatuion.

Based on what was posted above, my opinon about Scott P's alleged statement about talking to both Mark Klass and J Walsh is I don't think he was lying, i think it was a simple misstatement, made during a stressful time. Who knows how many media people he had been talking to?

Odd that his father and brothers didn't alert him to the fact that they had contacted JW. I don't believe that Mark Klaas came into this until SP brought it up. I could most certainly be wrong on that detail. Not on how JW got involved. That's gospel.
As far a squandered opportunity to find his pregnant wife,-There was unprecedented media coverage/ "help" from the media in getting coverage of Laci's disappearance. JWalsh is a TV personality, not an investigator, profiler or member of LE, so the only help he could really offer, was media coverage, which was not in short supply, by any standard. The main focus of the media personalities seemed to be on Scott P and ratings-NOT on actually finding/searching for Laci, imo. Nobody in the media/tv personalities needed to interview Scott P if the primary motive was to help find Laci. As I said, Scott P is probably guilty (note my moniker of "on the fence"), and I do empathize with Walsh (and Klass) in the tragedy of the loss of his child in a manner no parent should ever have to. But, doesn't mean that I agree with everyone on the motives, areas of expertise and actions of some media/tv personalities in all instances. Just my opinion[/COLOR] Anyhoo, I'm done here. :seeya:

Yeah, lots of coverage. Not like JW can do. I find it fascinating that jails and prisons love his show and turn in someone at the drop of a dime. Messes up that bogus tip.

BTW, I understand you nic...sorry you feel compelled to leave. :)

I CANNOT FIX THIS POST. I apologize to everyone. Ugh, all the quotes are mixed up as are the colors. Sowwy.

[deputydi]

<snip>Based on what was posted above, my opinon about Scott P's alleged statement about talking to both Mark Klass and J Walsh is I don't think he was lying, i think it was a simple misstatement, made during a stressful time. Who knows how many media people he had been talking to?
<snip>
I hope you haven't really left, 'cause I have a question. I agree it was a very stressful time for Scott but I can't believe he wouldn't remember talking to Walsh or Klass. What I totally don't understand is why he set up a date and time to be interviewed by John Walsh and then stood him up. He was playing golf instead. Then, when he did finally appear 6 hrs later, he refused to talk to Walsh and would only agree to talk to a production assistant. Is that, too, attributed to stress or an indication that he was afraid to be interviewed by John Walsh?

[TopGunner]

I hope you haven't really left, 'cause I have a question. I agree it was a very stressful time for Scott but I can't believe he wouldn't remember talking to Walsh or Klass. What I totally don't understand is why he set up a date and time to be interviewed by John Walsh and then stood him up. He was playing golf instead. Then, when he did finally appear 6 hrs later, he refused to talk to Walsh and would only agree to talk to a production assistant. Is that, too, attributed to stress or an indication that he was afraid to be interviewed by John Walsh?

And don't forget he later bragged to his folks that he kicked that production assistant's a*s!!!!

I dunno OTF. I can't see me being in that situation and reading ANY ulterior motive about anyone offering to help me. But I also can't see me playing golf, taking a shower, eating, sleeping, BREATHING. Hard for me to relate.

However, I also hope you come back because I'd like to know WHY you're on the fence. What exactly has given you any doubt? I'm not asking so I can jump all over your answer, I really just want to know. ;)

[Luke Davis]

I just can't imagine it. What kind of man, when offered media attention to help find his missing pregnant wife, would say, "No thanks, I have enough. I'd rather go golfing instead."A murderer.

[Wearing A Halo]

"Insinuated himself"

Hmmm, it's not like DRISP ever "insinuated himself" into anyones life. DRISP is (was) one smarmy SOB that would make Eddie Haskell so proud. DRISP is one over-the-top, too-good-to-be-true-dude who would "insinuate himself" just to his benefit. For those "on the fence," you have to ask yourself, 'my life is dependent on someone to help me survive, would it matter who is there to help me?' JW first offered his support because of DRISP's family and JW never went up to DRISP's house with a bull horn and "insinuated himself."

[onthefence]

You are speaking out of both sides of your mouth. You have empathy for somone who lost a child? Yet you bash JW and then bash Mark Klaas.

:rolleyes:

:rolleyes: is right. Seems you are using something other than your mouth to speak out of. I have not "bashed" JW or MK. You are bashing me, actually. :shrug:

[onthefence]

And don't forget he later bragged to his folks that he kicked that production assistant's a*s!!!!

I dunno OTF. I can't see me being in that situation and reading ANY ulterior motive about anyone offering to help me. But I also can't see me playing golf, taking a shower, eating, sleeping, BREATHING. Hard for me to relate.

However, I also hope you come back because I'd like to know WHY you're on the fence. What exactly has given you any doubt? I'm not asking so I can jump all over your answer, I really just want to know. ;)

I am on the fence mainly because most of the key elements in this case have not been proven (at least based on what i have read), imo. I follow a Rudyard Kipling quote I saw somewhere that says: I keep six honest serving-men (They taught me all I knew); Their names are Whatand Why and When And How and Where and Who. I don't have good answers to any of these.

The fact that the case has been discussed as much as it has, and still is being pretty actively discussed, is indicative, to a large degree, of the uncertainty/doubt that people have about the verdict, certain elements and evidence in this case-including the influence of the slant of the unprecedented media coverage- Either that or there are a lot of us with entirely too much time on our hands.

it seems some of these forums have been going on for quite some time and I am probably entering them too late in the game. don't think i have followed the case as closely as many here seem to have done, and have not formed a definite opinion one way or the other. I also don't want to waste my time here or anyone else's. It's been interesting and educational. Thanks. :patriot: :seeya:

[enlightenme]

I am on the fence mainly because most of the key elements in this case have not been proven (at least based on what i have read), imo. I follow a Rudyard Kipling quote I saw somewhere that says: I keep six honest serving-men (They taught me all I knew); Their names are Whatand Why and When And How and Where and Who. I don't have good answers to any of these.

The fact that the case has been discussed as much as it has, and still is being pretty actively discussed, is indicative, to a large degree, of the uncertainty/doubt that people have about the verdict, certain elements and evidence in this case-including the influence of the slant of the unprecedented media coverage- Either that or there are a lot of us with entirely too much time on our hands.

it seems some of these forums have been going on for quite some time and I am probably entering them too late in the game. don't think i have followed the case as closely as many here seem to have done, and have not formed a definite opinion one way or the other. I also don't want to waste my time here or anyone else's. It's been interesting and educational. Thanks. :patriot: :seeya:


No, not at all. I doubt you will find any SIG (Scott Is Guilty) who has ANY doubt at all about the verdict. Most of us are here because we still find the excuses for Scott's "innocence" debatable (and sometimes laughable) and also to try and keep the bashing of Laci, her family & friends, MPD, Judge Delucchi, and everyone besides Scott to a minimum. Or at least to post the truth.

JMO

[Cadillakin]

No, not at all. I doubt you will find any SIG (Scott Is Guilty) who has ANY doubt at all about the verdict. Most of us are here because we still find the excuses for Scott's "innocence" debatable (and sometimes laughable) and also to try and keep the bashing of Laci, her family & friends, MPD, Judge Delucchi, and everyone besides Scott to a minimum. Or at least to post the truth.

JMOThat is exactly right. Also, IMO, Laci represents the thousands of women in this world who are abused by men who are subsequently protected by their culture, family, and others who believe that women are here to serve and satisfy the male. And when they are no longer useful to the man of the home, they are disposable.

[TopGunner]

I am on the fence mainly because most of the key elements in this case have not been proven (at least based on what i have read), imo. I follow a Rudyard Kipling quote I saw somewhere that says: I keep six honest serving-men (They taught me all I knew); Their names are Whatand Why and When And How and Where and Who. I don't have good answers to any of these.

The fact that the case has been discussed as much as it has, and still is being pretty actively discussed, is indicative, to a large degree, of the uncertainty/doubt that people have about the verdict, certain elements and evidence in this case-including the influence of the slant of the unprecedented media coverage- Either that or there are a lot of us with entirely too much time on our hands.

it seems some of these forums have been going on for quite some time and I am probably entering them too late in the game. don't think i have followed the case as closely as many here seem to have done, and have not formed a definite opinion one way or the other. I also don't want to waste my time here or anyone else's. It's been interesting and educational. Thanks. :patriot: :seeya:


Hi OTF, it's never too late to join in. :biggrin: I appreciate your reply and understand why you are on the fence.

I am one of the late bloomers here as well. Believe it or not, I missed the whole thing while it was happening. It was somewhere between the verdict and the sentencing that it caught my interest. I started reading, surfing the net, etc. I didn't post with anyone, didn't KNOW anyone. On my own, based on many sources, including the trial/transcript, I believed not only was he guilty but it was written in the sky. I had no emotional investment or group to be loyal to, nothing. I tried looking at all the information from all sides. The LE, the defense, the Rocha's, the Peterson's... To me, his guilt was glaring, like neon lights. Not only did everything point to him, including means, motive, and all that - but I've never in all my life witnesses anyone who just so couldn't care less. Everyone keeps saying they were looking for remorse. I wasn't - I was looking for devastation, like the kind Sharon displayed. I was looking for the signs of someone who was tramatized, like anyone reading here would look and feel if they lost someone they loved, 2 someone's I mean. I was looking for him to make the effort to find her. Instead I found someone who not only didn't care, but he was cocky about it, rude about it, flip if you will.

Weave that in with the boat, Amber, selling the truck, trying to sell the house, running away when the bodies were found 90 miles from Modesto, right where he was on the exact same day they went missing, and well....

The media didn't influence me, I missed it.

It was crystal clear to me, alone, that Scott Lee Peterson premeditated and executed the murder of his wife and baby. I've never had one second of doubt. I still come here and post because until the appeals are turned down, it's not over...and I have since come to meet some really great people who, like me, continue to debate the case. Really great, intelligent people...so I enjoy posting with them. And I can include 1 - 2 NG's in that statement.

I know, for sure, there's no G here that has any doubt. There's no doubt to be had.

Anyway OTF, thanks again for responding, much appreciated. :rose:

[Sturgeon_Moon]

Oh Pam, I can easily imagine: A guilty kind of man.:seeya:Me too!:patriot:

[Wearing A Halo]

I am on the fence mainly because most of the key elements in this case have not been proven (at least based on what i have read), imo. I follow a Rudyard Kipling quote I saw somewhere that says: I keep six honest serving-men (They taught me all I knew); Their names are Whatand Why and When And How and Where and Who. I don't have good answers to any of these.

The fact that the case has been discussed as much as it has, and still is being pretty actively discussed, is indicative, to a large degree, of the uncertainty/doubt that people have about the verdict, certain elements and evidence in this case-including the influence of the slant of the unprecedented media coverage- Either that or there are a lot of us with entirely too much time on our hands.

it seems some of these forums have been going on for quite some time and I am probably entering them too late in the game. don't think i have followed the case as closely as many here seem to have done, and have not formed a definite opinion one way or the other. I also don't want to waste my time here or anyone else's. It's been interesting and educational. Thanks. :patriot: :seeya:

Rudyard Kipling:not only did he keep them, he also gave them rest. Above all, he never asked them for exactness (very important).

[Trixy]

There has never been any doubt on my part that Scott didn't killer Laci & Conner. He's the devil himself. We can thank his parents for that.

Personally, I think it is a waste of tax payers money to keep him alive.

:flamemad: