Trey York - Things to say "hmmmm" to.

[nobody]

I thought this might be more fun than anything. Let's just recount all of the interesting things that made us raise our eyebrow about suspect #2. That's all.

I would suggest that you just make each entry a one/two liner with brief detail.

[nobody]

Spilled coke in car - spilled coke in Nona's house. Everyone loves Coke.

[hawgustusgloop]

He claimed to have spilled Coke in his car on the day of the murder.

Oops. nobody beat me......

He claimed to want to return a cake pan to Nona on the day of her murder.

[nobody]

Nona's mom bakes a cake - Trey eats it. Trey really wants to return it before he leaves for holiday - but says "nevermind" and leaves for home. Did Nona's mom ever get her cake pan back?

[hawgustusgloop]

He possibly wore "things" on his wrists.

[hawgustusgloop]

He said his biology test was at 8:30 but other students said it was 8:00 (I may have that reversed).

[nobody]

Nona's dad mentioned that someone from one of Nona's study group had been harassing her. Someone from Nona's study group is supposedly asked to leave, during study. Oh, wait - Trey was in one of her study groups. But - she was just using him for grades.

[hawgustusgloop]

He said he suspected Nona was using him for a good grade in biology.

[nobody]

He possibly wore "things" on his wrists.


According to the neighbor - he was a "door banger" - maybe he should have just gone to the back sliding door and opened it that day.

[hawgustusgloop]

It has been RUMORED he had an attorney with him during questioning.

[nobody]

His first exam starts at 0830 - according to him, but he arrives at Paradise donuts at 09:00.
Wow! Quickest test ever! I wonder if he did better than Nona in that test.

[hawgustusgloop]

Remember, he is Jim York III. Namesakes bring a lot of pressure to live up to the family legacy. He could have been stressed about this, along with finals, packing up to go home for the holidays, etc. It can really all add up.

[nobody]

For the record - he and Nona were the grand masters of text messages in November and December. Good thing he broke off the relationship - so, he would have time to study!

[nobody]

If he doesn't recognize your number - he might have to borrow his friend's phone to call you back. Sooooo secret - he doesn't want strange numbers on his phone.

[hawgustusgloop]

And the door banger reportedly wore a cap, too. Coincidence?

[lorettalockhorn]

I thought this might be more fun than anything. Let's just recount all of the interesting things that made us raise our eyebrow about suspect #2. That's all.

I would suggest that you just make each entry a one/two liner with brief detail.


Wait! I'm late to your game. First, I want to know by whose enumeration system is York suspect #2? IIRC, while the jury was supposed to be deliberating, but was instead playing armchair detective, Jared? was a suspect, along with DD and JM that have been here mentioned ad nauseum, ad infinitum.

[LurkerNoMore]

He was attempting to communicate with Nona via text message ALL AROUND the alleged time of her death. "Give me a call please." "Never Mind." "Please call me. I heard something was wrong and I'm worried." Innocent, or easy way to make it look like he wasn't there and didn't know what happened?

[optimumprimal78]

I don't get it. First it was Jared. Then it was Trey. Who else could be considered?

[LurkerNoMore]

I don't get it. First it was Jared. Then it was Trey. Who else could be considered?

Fueled by logic, testimony at the trial, reports from the trial, those text messages, those wrist bands, his Mustang, and that coke spill, just Trey now, baby. Just Trey. IMO.

[Manning]

Spilled coke in car - spilled coke in Nona's house. Everyone loves Coke.

IIRC - I read somewhere in one of the 6000+ post that Nona's mother told LE that the coke spill in Nona's apartment was there when Nona moved in and that they hadn't painted or done anything about the coke stain in the apartment.

So to me to coke stain in the apartment has nothing to do with anything.

[hawgustusgloop]

Remember how it was reported that Trey said he didn't feel comfortable (or something similar) having sex with Nona?

Maybe Trey went to visit her that day and she tried to get him into bed as soon as he walked in the door. Maybe he acquiesced in the beginning, even to the point of opening up a condom and putting it on. At some point, though, he just wasn't ready but Nona wouldn't take no for an answer. He felt so uncomfortable that he flew into a rage, angry at her for what he felt she was trying to pressure him into doing and unable to deal with his feelings, and killed her. Afraid, he hurriedly left without removing the condom (yet remembering to grab a cake pan from the oven for alibi purposes) and without picking up the wrapper that was left on the counter. His clothes had no blood on them, but he did manage to get some blood in his car, which he cleaned up and claimed was a coke stain. He took the stick to fight off any ninjas he may have encountered on the way to clean up the stain in his car, and deposited the stick, the cake pan, and the condom in the garbage at the car wash.

[hawgustusgloop]

IIRC - I read somewhere in one of the 6000+ post that Nona's mother told LE that the coke spill in Nona's apartment was there when Nona moved in and that they hadn't painted or done anything about the coke stain in the apartment.

So to me to coke stain in the apartment has nothing to do with anything.

I think you are correct about what Nona's mom said and I agree with the rest of your post.

[LurkerNoMore]

IIRC - I read somewhere in one of the 6000+ post that Nona's mother told LE that the coke spill in Nona's apartment was there when Nona moved in and that they hadn't painted or done anything about the coke stain in the apartment.

So to me to coke stain in the apartment has nothing to do with anything.

I agree. And who knows if coke was really what required cleaning in the car. IMO.

[nobody]

I agree. And who knows if coke was really what required cleaning in the car. IMO.

Are we talking about the same coke spill in the apartment? I remember mention of a substance on a table near the sliding glass door - it had spilled on the table and run off onto the floor.

[nobody]

Paradise donuts is about half the distance between ATU and Nona's apartment. Isn't there any closer donuts - like say, the Russellville mall? Maybe theirs' are not so good?

It's not like he needed to study or anything - what is a little further drive?

[nobody]

Only two people were fingerprinted - Kevin Jones and Trey York. Jones was already there - so, it was convenient. The authorities went out of their way to fingerprint York.

[nobody]

Who stays all night at a girls house and only kisses? One thing usually leads to another. Maybe he was more of a romantic?

[nobody]

Zack Walker testified that he thought that Nona and Trey York had a dating relationship. He learned about 10pm on the 15th that Nona was found in a pool of blood and relayed that to York at about 10:15.

York waits to send a text message to Nona at 9:18am on the 16th saying that he was worried about her.

Walker called York between 10 and 11am (within 2hrs of his sent text) that morning to say that Nona was dead and York told him that he already knew.

[nobody]

Zack Walker testified that he thought that Nona and Trey York had a dating relationship. He learned about 10pm on the 15th that Nona was found in a pool of blood and relayed that to York at about 10:15.

York waits to send a text message to Nona at 9:18am on the 16th saying that he was worried about her.

Walker called York between 10 and 11am (within 2hrs of his sent text) that morning to say that Nona was dead and York told him that he already knew.

Johnson, who told jurors in opening arguments Zack Walker called York and told him Dirksmeyer was dead the night of Dec. 15, asked York to show him on York’s cell phone records when Walker called him and when he returned Walker’s call. Neither York nor Johnson seemed to be able to identify any calls from or to Walker on the records for Dec. 15.
York later said he didn’t receive a call about Dirksmeyer until the next morning.

[nobody]

"According to Trey, it was Nona that visited his dorm room two or three times a week until around Thanksgiving when they both became too busy."

Too busy? I thought the reason you broke it off is because she was using you, to get better grades.

[nobody]

I would have never considered turning the heat off in Nona's apartment - especially in the middle of December. However, the killer I suspect did. That person must have been smart to science - knowing that turning off the heat would chill Nona's body quicker, delaying Rigor Mortis - possibly making investigators to think that the attack occured at a later time in the day.

On a different note: I wonder what Trey's degree was - with his Grandpa being a Doctor, maybe he was following a family tradition?

[FDInLaw]

Gosh, this poor Trey kid. I still don't see any evidence that actually ties him to the crime. I hope he and his family are oblivious to the existence of this site. In my mind, Trey is just that latest victim of the "anyone but Kevin" group. JMO

[hawgustusgloop]

Gosh, this poor Trey kid. I still don't see any evidence that actually ties him to the crime. I hope he and his family are oblivious to the existence of this site. In my mind, Trey is just that latest victim of the "anyone but Kevin" group. JMO

What annoys me are the people saying he has no alibi or didn't present one at the trial. Of course, there wasn't a parade of witnesses corroborating Trey's whereabouts at K.Jo's murder trial. Because it was K.Jo's murder trial, not anyone else's. The prosecutor came out and said they had several suspects and they were all alibied. I would imagine this includes Trey.

BTW, welcome back, and I like your location, FDInLaw!

[FDInLaw]

What annoys me are the people saying he has no alibi or didn't present one at the trial. Of course, there wasn't a parade of witnesses corroborating Trey's whereabouts at K.Jo's murder trial. Because it was K.Jo's murder trial, not anyone else's. The prosecutor came out and said they had several suspects and they were all alibied. I would imagine this includes Trey.

BTW, welcome back, and I like your location, FDInLaw! ITA. The defense did their job and made every effort to keep Kevin from being the one on trial. With all the things they managed to have blocked, the jury only got part of the picture. I'm still confused about why that the PA was not allowed to call witnesses to show that Kevin lied to the police. Should Nona's Mother pursue a civil trial, I'm convinced that the verdict will be different since Kevin's attorneys won't have as much wiggle room. We'll have to wait and see!
:seeya:

[nobody]

Nona's mom bakes a cake - Trey eats it. Trey really wants to return it before he leaves for holiday - but says "nevermind" and leaves for home. Did Nona's mom ever get her cake pan back?

Facts:
Traces of Nona's blood were found on the oven.
Cake pans are typically for cooking in ovens.
Trey had her cake pan and wanted to return it that day.

Opinions:
Nona didn't have a chance to stumble through the kitchen, touching the oven, smearing blood herself. KJ would have had no foreseeable reason to touch her oven that day. Who else would come over to visit ND's kitchen that day? My theory - this evidence is directly linked to the real killer.

[nobody]

Curriculum in Geology
(Professional Option)
Freshman Year Hours
Orientation to Physical Science (PHSC 1001) 1
English Composition I, II (ENGL 1013, 1023)1 6
Regional Geography (GEOG 2013)1 3
General Psychology (PSY 2003)1 3
Physical Geology (GEOL 1014) 4
Historical Geology (GEOL 2024) 4
College Algebra (MATH 1113) 3
Plane Trigonometry (MATH 1203) 3
Physical Education1 2
Biology1 4
Total 33

Sophomore Year
Social Sciences (POLS 2003, AMST 2003) 6
General Chemistry I, II (CHEM 2124, 2134) 8
Mineralogy (GEOL 3014) 4
Invertebrate Paleontology (GEOL 3124) 4
Petrology (GEOL 3164) 4
Electives 3
Seminar (GEOL 2001) 1
Engineering Graphics (ENGR 1002) 2
Total 32

Junior Year
Fine Arts1 3 ?
Seminar (GEOL 3001) 1
Structural Geology (GEOL 3004) 4
Geologic Field Techniques (GEOL 3023) 3
Geomorphology (GEOL 3044) 4
Physical Principles I, II (PHYS 2014, 2024) 8
Introduction to Computer Based Systems (COMS 1003) or FORTRAN Programming (COMS 1103) or Calculus I (MATH 2914) or Introduction to Statistical Methods (MATH 2163) 3-4
Electives 3-4
Total 30

Summer after Junior Year (or Senior Year)
Field Geology (GEOL 4006) 6
Total 6

Senior Year
Humanities (ENGL 2003 or PHIL2003) 3
Principles of Stratigraphy and Sedimentation (GEOL 4023) 3
Seminar (GEOL 4001) 1
Electives (6 hours must be 3000/4000 level) 17
Total 24


Curriculum in Geology
(Environmental Option)
Freshman Year Hours
Orientation to Physical Science (PHSC 1001) 1
English Composition I, II (ENGL 1013, 1023)1 6
Principles of Economics (ECON 2003)1 3
General Psychology (PSY 2003)1 3
Physical Geology (GEOL 1014) 4
Historical Geology (GEOL 2024) 4
Principles of Environmental Science (PHSC 1004) 4
College Algebra (MATH 1113) 3
Microcomputer Applications (COMS 2003) 3
Physical Education1 2
Total 33

Sophomore Year
Social Sciences (POLS 2003, AMST 2003) 6
Survey of Chemistry (CHEM 1114) 4
Mineralogy (GEOL 3014) 4
Petrology (GEOL 3164) 4
Environmental Chemistry (CHEM 2143) 3
Technical Communication (ENGL 2053) 3
Introduction to Biological Science (BIOL 1014) 4
Statistics (MATH 2163 or PSY 2053) 3
Environmental Seminar (GEOL 2111) 1
Total 32

Junior Year
Fine Arts1 3
Environmental Seminar (GEOL 3111) 1
Structural Geology (GEOL 3004) 4
Geologic Field Techniques (GEOL 3023) 3
Geomorphology (GEOL 3044) 4
Environmental Geology (GEOL 3153) 3
Physical Principles (PHYS 2014, 2024) 8
Elective (3000-4000 level) 3
Engineering Graphics (ENGR 1002) 2
Total 31

Senior Year
Humanities (ENGL 2003 or PHIL 2003) 3
Geographic Information Systems (FW 4034) 4
Environmental Seminar (GEOL 4111) 1
Fundamentals of Organic Chemistry (CHEM 3254) 4
Hydrogeology (GEOL 3083) 3
Conservation (BIOL 3043) 3
Electives (Geology, Mathematics, Biology, Chemistry) 11
Total 29

York said he was a senior at 20 - I am really impressed. Surely he stuck with it and graduated - I don't know.

Reference: http://pls.atu.edu/physci/geology/degrees.htm

[nobody]

http://www.ashdownschools.org/alumni20005.htm

[lorettalockhorn]

>>Is it possible to be a senior geology major at 20yrs old?

Wouldn't that depend on how old you were when you graduated from HS? And/or how many hours you may have tested out of? We need to find out this guy's birth date and/or get a copy of his birth certificate!!!!!! We need to get a copy of his class schedule and/or transcript.

[nobody]

I was leading up to - did he ever graduate? I've searched for evidence - but came up with nothing. He was so close to finishing his degree at such a young age - did this investigation scare him away from the university? He seems to have vanished - I think I would to.

Oh, and according to his highschool - he graduated in May 05'. Just for consideration - if he had stayed on track, he would have just now past his two year mark - that's pretty quick.

[ladykrystal]

why did he decide all of a sudden to skip his exam

[lorettalockhorn]

I was leading up to - did he ever graduate? I've searched for evidence - but came up with nothing. He was so close to finishing his degree at such a young age - did this investigation scare him away from the university? He seems to have vanished - I think I would to.

Oh, and according to his highschool - he graduated in May 05'. Just for consideration - if he had stayed on track, he would have just now past his two year mark - that's pretty quick.

Well, did you search the alumni directory at Tech? Or for that matter the student directory? Don't see why an '05 HS graduate couldn't have plenty of hours under his belt by now.

And does York actually own/drive/have access to a green SUV? Isn't the driver of the green SUV this week's suspect?

[hawgustusgloop]

I was leading up to - did he ever graduate? I've searched for evidence - but came up with nothing. He was so close to finishing his degree at such a young age - did this investigation scare him away from the university? He seems to have vanished - I think I would to.

Oh, and according to his highschool - he graduated in May 05'. Just for consideration - if he had stayed on track, he would have just now past his two year mark - that's pretty quick.

OK, say his birthday is coming up soon. That would make him almost 21, which isn't that young to be a senior. Also, I could be mistaken, but the way I understood it was that he was about to begin his senior year, not that he would have just graduated.

I had a friend at Tech who was technically a sophomore by the end of her first semester because she took several AP courses and summer college classes while still in high school. Also, I think you can accumulate the required credit hours to technically be a senior even if you still have more than a year's worth of coursework to complete.

[hawgustusgloop]

Well, did you search the alumni directory at Tech? Or for that matter the student directory? Don't see why an '05 HS graduate couldn't have plenty of hours under his belt by now.

And does York actually own/drive/have access to a green SUV? Isn't the driver of the green SUV this week's suspect?

I thought the mysterious green SUV's driver was the suspect du jour, but I just read a post on the other thread that appeared to cast suspicion on Bubba Turner, Trey York, and Duane Dipert all at once, so I guess you just never know.

[nobody]

he skipped his exam? do you have a reference? wow - that's not a smart move for a senior.

[nobody]

There were two hours between York's time that he completed his ATU exam. He said he finished the exam around 11:00. Records show that he text messaged Nona around 10:58 (which makes sense). The message is opened. He said he was in his room, packing, at the time of the text.

After last-minute packing and signing out of his dorm room, he then drives to Hastings to return a movie (4 miles). - maybe this is when he notices his gas is low.

Following Hastings, he then turns back around and drives back to the exit of the college (4 miles). (Two hours later) At the Exxon, he says he text messaged Nona with "Nevermind" - the message is not opened. Then he begins his drive home (224 miles) - passing the exit to Hastings.

- not a logical pattern, but I guess we have to take into consideration that he is not from Russellville.

- also note, that the medical examiner's Time-of-Death calculation is within this two hours.

[nobody]

why did he decide all of a sudden to skip his exam

I have no reference of York skipping any exam. I believe you are confusing the music major student that was suppose to follow Nona's music exam at 2pm. I do not recall his name off-hand, however this person supposedly attempted to call Nona. He then practiced for his exam up until about 5 minutes prior to his own exam. He then left - thinking he was not ready.

[hawgustusgloop]

I have no reference of York skipping any exam. I believe you are confusing the music major student that was suppose to follow Nona's music exam at 2pm. I do not recall his name off-hand, however this person supposedly attempted to call Nona. He then practiced for his exam up until about 5 minutes prior to his own exam. He then left - thinking he was not ready.

If I recall correctly, that music student was Jordan Harris. I also don't recall any reference to York skipping an exam.

[Leroy L]

There were two hours between York's time that he completed his ATU exam. He said he finished the exam around 11:00. Records show that he text messaged Nona around 10:58 (which makes sense). The message is opened. He said he was in his room, packing, at the time of the text.

After last-minute packing and signing out of his dorm room, he then drives to Hastings to return a movie (4 miles). - maybe this is when he notices his gas is low.

Following Hastings, he then turns back around and drives back to the exit of the college (4 miles). (Two hours later) At the Exxon, he says he text messaged Nona with "Nevermind" - the message is not opened. Then he begins his drive home (224 miles) - passing the exit to Hastings.

- not a logical pattern, but I guess we have to take into consideration that he is not from Russellville.

- also note, that the medical examiner's Time-of-Death calculation is within this two hours.

The phrase "last-minute packing" is misleading, to me anyway. Is there anywhere this term was used in testimony? The "last-minute packing" appears to me to have taken about an hour and a half, which seems completely logical and reasonable. This would have Trey finishing at about 12:30 p.m., before checking out of the dorm. He thens goes to Hastings to return a movie, before realizing that he needs some gas before hitting the road home.

Here is a location map for Hastings: http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&um=1&q=hastings&near=Russellville,+AR&fb=1&cid=0,0,10425544572461556441&sa=X&oi=local_result&resnum=1&ct=image

Here is a location map for the Exxons in Russellville: http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&um=1&q=exxon&near=Russellville,+AR&fb=1&sa=X&oi=local_group&resnum=1&ct=image

There is not an Exxon at the Interstate 40 exit near the Hastings. It looks to me like it is about as close and convenient to go back to the Exxon at the Tech exit as any other. Maybe Trey has an Exxon card and wanted to go to an Exxon.

Just to be clear, there is absolutely no evidence of a two hour gap between the time Trey signed out of the dorm and placed the 1:00 p.m. text message to Nona. Here is the link, once again, of his testimony: http://64.233.129.31/archivedstory.php?ID=15333

[TJEddie]

You bring up a good point, Leroy. It's something that has always bothered me about Trey York's alibi. IMO, Trey's alibi hinges on what stage of packing he was at when he sent the 11am text message to Nona. Was he just starting to pack his room, was he somewhere in the middle of packing, or was he all packed up and ready to load things into his car? IIRC, Trey indicated that he had witnesses to his packing.....were these witnesses spaced out over the 1 1/2 - 2 hr. time in question, all able to give specific times that they saw him packing? To my knowledge, these questions weren't answered.....but as others have pointed out, Trey wasn't the one on trial.

[Leroy L]

There were two hours between York's time that he completed his ATU exam. He said he finished the exam around 11:00. Records show that he text messaged Nona around 10:58 (which makes sense). The message is opened. He said he was in his room, packing, at the time of the text.

After last-minute packing and signing out of his dorm room, he then drives to Hastings to return a movie (4 miles). - maybe this is when he notices his gas is low.

Following Hastings, he then turns back around and drives back to the exit of the college (4 miles). (Two hours later) At the Exxon, he says he text messaged Nona with "Nevermind" - the message is not opened. Then he begins his drive home (224 miles) - passing the exit to Hastings.

- not a logical pattern, but I guess we have to take into consideration that he is not from Russellville.

- also note, that the medical examiner's Time-of-Death calculation is within this two hours.

Another thought about the Exxon - a friend used to tell me the cheapest gas in Conway was the Exxon on Oak Street. Perhaps Trey wanted to get the cheapest gas around (in Russellville), and it was worth it to him to back track a couple of miles to fill up.

[TJEddie]

I think Trey said on the stand that he had an Exxon card from his father.

[nobody]

Good Point LeRoy. Did you notice there is also an Exxon station, right next to the Paradise donuts which he visited that morning - halfway to Nona's from ATU. Perhaps he had other things on his mind, that morning, instead of gassing up and leaving town.

[nobody]

Donuts and Coke for breakfast? Yuck! Just a little too much sugar. I highly recommend trying Stoby's biscuits and gravy with coffee. That's just me.

[Leroy L]

Good Point LeRoy. Did you notice there is also an Exxon station, right next to the Paradise donuts which he visited that morning - halfway to Nona's from ATU. Perhaps he had other things on his mind, that morning, instead of gassing up and leaving town.

Not having spent much time in Russellville for years, I didn't know where the Paradise Donuts was. Perhaps Trey is like me...if so, he has only one thing on his mind at a time. When visiting Paradise Donuts, he was thinking about eating a donut.

I waste way too much time going to the grocery store for one or two items per trip. Only if I stopped to plan and make lists!! What is on my mind is whatever the immediate need is. Perhaps that is why I can so easily see Trey making special trips for each thing - a trip to get donuts, a trip to drop a movie off, a trip to get gas.

[TJEddie]

Leroy, you raise an interesting point about the immediacy of needs. It's one thing that has always bothered me about Trey's 10:58am phone call to Nona. With all of the other things he had to do, calling Nona was apparently the first thing Trey did after completing his last final. IMO, it suggests a sense of urgency that just doesn't seem consistent with something as mundane as "returning a cake pan." Of course, that's just my opinion....I'm sure others will disagree.

[Leroy L]

Leroy, you raise an interesting point about the immediacy of needs. It's one thing that has always bothered me about Trey's 10:58am phone call to Nona. With all of the other things he had to do, calling Nona was apparently the first thing Trey did after completing his last final. IMO, it suggests a sense of urgency that just doesn't seem consistent with something as mundane as "returning a cake pan." Of course, that's just my opinion....I'm sure others will disagree.

Well, once again seeing a similiarity in Trey and myself...everything else he had to do, he pretty much had control over. There was going to be somebody at Hastings to turn his movie into, or at least a drop slot. His stuff was going to be in his room, waiting to be packed. He didn't have control over getting the cake pan back into Nona's hands. So, I can identify how getting that task off his list would be a priority. Not knowing if or when I could catch somebody to return their possession before I left town would make contact more urgent.

[lorettalockhorn]

Well, once again seeing a similiarity in Trey and myself...everything else he had to do, he pretty much had control over. There was going to be somebody at Hastings to turn his movie into, or at least a drop slot. His stuff was going to be in his room, waiting to be packed. He didn't have control over getting the cake pan back into Nona's hands. So, I can identify how getting that task off his list would be a priority. Not knowing if or when I could catch somebody to return their possession before I left town would make contact more urgent.

That makes sense to me too. Trey might not have known Nona's schedule that day. He may have realized that getting in touch with her could be iffy. He probably didn't want to just show up on her doorstep without calling first. Wish all people were that considerate.

[nobody]

That makes sense to me too. Trey might not have known Nona's schedule that day.

According to Trey - They had their morning Biology class together and she came over on a weekly basis that semester up until Thanksgiving. I don't see what would have been so hard about stopping by her house, leaving the cake pan leaning against her door with a thank you note - I find it inconsiderate that he left town with it.

Despite my raised eyebrow at Trey, I have yet to uncover a possible motive. Maybe if the prosecution had kept their investigation open to more than one suspect - longer than a week - we might have had more - Maybe even a conviction.

Perhaps upon arrival with condom in hand and intentions of really wanting to deliver the cake pan, she delivers another kick to the groin (as mentioned before). That can be enough reason to at least hurt - if not kill.

[nobody]

Well, once again seeing a similiarity in Trey and myself...everything else he had to do, he pretty much had control over. There was going to be somebody at Hastings to turn his movie into, or at least a drop slot. His stuff was going to be in his room, waiting to be packed. He didn't have control over getting the cake pan back into Nona's hands. So, I can identify how getting that task off his list would be a priority. Not knowing if or when I could catch somebody to return their possession before I left town would make contact more urgent.

His actions are not organized and well thought out like yours. According to his testiment - he zigzag'd all over town as if nothing was planned. If he was as organized as you - he would have brought the cakepan to biology class that morning and left town right after his noon exam - instead of hanging around town for 2hrs.

IMO - Trey specifically wanted to see her in person that day, to which I think he did.

[TJEddie]

Despite my raised eyebrow at Trey, I have yet to uncover a possible motive. Maybe if the prosecution had kept their investigation open to more than one suspect - longer than a week - we might have had more - Maybe even a conviction.

Perhaps upon arrival with condom in hand and intentions of really wanting to deliver the cake pan, she delivers another kick to the groin (as mentioned before). That can be enough reason to at least hurt - if not kill.

Well, you could always borrow a motive from the prosecution. 5 hours spent cuddled up alone with an old boyfriend might send some guys into a jealous rage. Of course, that would presume more of a relationship than Trey has admitted to.....perhaps a relationship more consistent with hundreds of text messages, others perceiving you as boyfriend/girlfriend, etc.

I've also wondered about that "class project" grade that Sara Bailey was calling Nona about, using the biology professor's phone. Could that class project have been something that involved everyone in the biology lab group? What was it about Nona's grade that prompted the phone calls?

[nobody]

I have not given up on suspicion of James Coulter York III, a.k.a. York, just yet. I am only waiting on new information. He seems to have disappeared from the earth. Perhaps further ASP/FBI investigation would help.

Here is a tid-bit for the moment. Nona's neighbor described Nona's visitor almost exactly to Mr. York's description - and also called this person Nona's boyfriend. Why? Because she thought she saw this person take out the trash.

Does this sound like a role description you would give someone that only visited one time? Doubt it.

The roles do sound like Jeckl and Hyde though - one kisses all night and takes out the trash. The other yells and bangs on the door - to which she is afraid to answer - and he drives off in her car. (?)

[lorettalockhorn]

Bumping from obscurity. Since apologies are being call for and all.

[FDInLaw]

I wonder if Trey will be called on to take the stand this time around??? :shrug:

[lorettalockhorn]

Wonder if we'll see a witness list before the trial. It's published for the jury, right? To make sure no one knows a party to the case? hehehe

[FDInLaw]

Wonder if we'll see a witness list before the trial. It's published for the jury, right? To make sure no one knows a party to the case? hehehe
Didn't work very well last time lol. So, what happened to KJ Juror??? Did the old crew get a call to remind them of what a gag order is????

It sure would be interesting to see who may be called this time.

[lorettalockhorn]

Well, all the KJ jurors are released. So there's surely not a rat's chance that kjjuror will be called again, right?

Maybe the defense will call Jared along with the usual suspects (in the literary sense) to try to pique the new jury's interest.

ETA: Was it Jared? So many J names in this case.

[FDInLaw]

Well, all the KJ jurors are released. So there's surely not a rat's chance that kjjuror will be called again, right?

Maybe the defense will call Jared along with the usual suspects (in the literary sense) to try to pique the new jury's interest.

ETA: Was it Jared? So many J names in this case.

Yes, there was a Jared.

[upallnight]

Didn't work very well last time lol. So, what happened to KJ Juror??? Did the old crew get a call to remind them of what a gag order is????

It sure would be interesting to see who may be called this time.

:beer: