New and Improved User Reputation Feature

[attorneywan2be]

Let's take a poll on the new and improved User Reputation feature..please feel free to post your suggestions..

[Athena]

bump bump (getting message it was too short)

[attorneywan2be]

bump bump (getting message it was too short)


Thanks for bumping it......Freshwater will probably make it a sticky...

[dallasvic]

Thanks for bumping it......Freshwater will probably make it a sticky...

:seeya: Hey aw2b & A,

I went out of town, when I got back it looks like everyone is getting pos. reps. I am sure do to a certian person that is gone now.I truly believe she was the one giving a great deal of the negs. What do yall think?
I like it like it is since it show the name of the person and if anyone does not like it they have the choose of turning it off RIGHT?:shrug:
:seeya: Later

[attorneywan2be]

:seeya: Hey aw2b & A,

I went out of town, when I got back it looks like everyone is getting pos. reps. I am sure do to a certian person that is gone now.I truly believe she was the one giving a great deal of the negs. What do yall think?
I like it like it is since it show the name of the person and if anyone does not like it they have the choose of turning it off RIGHT?
:seeya: Later



Hi Dalla and welcome back..:seeya:

I think Freshwater is still working on the option where members can select to not participate....

[Athena]

:seeya: Hey aw2b & A,

I went out of town, when I got back it looks like everyone is getting pos. reps. I am sure do to a certian person that is gone now.I truly believe she was the one giving a great deal of the negs. What do yall think?
I like it like it is since it show the name of the person and if anyone does not like it they have the choose of turning it off RIGHT?:shrug:
Later


Well one is still here though haven't heard anything lately. :)

[attorneywan2be]

So far.. it looks like a close call...!!

[Atok]

I haven't gotten a negative since they started posting who sends them. While it's nice to get patted on the back and it keeps threads from derailing into pats on the back for others... isn't that what "ITA" is for? <giggle>.

Since no one is using it to ding me anymore, I guess their negative of me wasn't valid to begin with... so I'll take that as a good sign.

[Blue Mermaid]

I'm surprised that the results (so far) are that close. Looks like a love it or hate it feature. :)

[attorneywan2be]

I'm surprised that the results (so far) are that close. Looks like a love it or hate it feature. :)


At this point..I don't think they are that close anymore...we shall see...!

[dallasvic]

I do not understand why everyone does not want to keep this. I have seen nothing but positives on everyone posts. And once FW works things out you will be able to disable it if you want. Come on everyone now that you can see peoples nic to has made a big difference.
I have noticed that if they can't give you a neg. rep and you not know who it is then they do not say anything at all. The one that are serious about their posting are able to state their option on the board and that is how it should be RIGHT ? It seems that the reps. are being used with respect and that is how it should be.:shrug:

[One2Snoop]

I do not understand why everyone does not want to keep this. I have seen nothing but positives on everyone posts. And once FW works things out you will be able to disable it if you want. Come on everyone now that you can see peoples nic to has made a big difference.
I have noticed that if they can't give you a neg. rep and you not know who it is then they do not say anything at all. The one that are serious about their posting are able to state their option on the board and that is how it should be RIGHT ? It seems that the reps. are being used with respect and that is how it should be.:shrug:

I guess my perspective is different than yours dallasvic (no disrespect but) Thats the problem - people won't give negatives for fear of getting one now that their nics can be seen. I'm not against nics being seen because I think its stopped the hanky panky that was going on but in all honesty I don't see any good reason for the rep system other than to cause dischord. I have to ask anyone who reads this, "Why do we need a rep system? We've never had one in the past, so why now?" :shrug:

[dallasvic]

I guess my perspective is different than yours dallasvic (no disrespect but) Thats the problem - people won't give negatives for fear of getting one now that their nics can be seen. I'm not against nics being seen because I think its stopped the hanky panky that was going on but in all honesty I don't see any good reason for the rep system other than to cause dischord. I have to ask anyone who reads this, "Why do we need a rep system? We've never had one in the past, so why now?" :shrug:

Hey O2S,

No offense taken. I am open to anyones opinion:tongue: Especially ones that have been here awhile thats how we learn RIGHT?:shrug:

[1]

I have not been able to see it yet. When I click the User CP, it directs me to log in again. :shrug:

:: waving to DV :: :seeya:

[walton]

I guess my perspective is different than yours dallasvic (no disrespect but) Thats the problem - people won't give negatives for fear of getting one now that their nics can be seen. I'm not against nics being seen because I think its stopped the hanky panky that was going on but in all honesty I don't see any good reason for the rep system other than to cause dischord. I have to ask anyone who reads this, "Why do we need a rep system? We've never had one in the past, so why now?" :shrug:

Maybe if they got rid of the rep system, the polls, the games being played there might be more comments made on the threads that are here.

Rate the Poster? for whose benefit? Isn't each person reading able to make up their own mind with out having the influence of posters playing games?

There are so many good stories at the library that it would be nice to have a message board to discuss such stories and the current news. Why not rate the stories and the writers. But rating the posters?

Just a thought shared.
Walton

[Athena]

I guess my perspective is different than yours dallasvic (no disrespect but) Thats the problem - people won't give negatives for fear of getting one now that their nics can be seen. I'm not against nics being seen because I think its stopped the hanky panky that was going on but in all honesty I don't see any good reason for the rep system other than to cause dischord. I have to ask anyone who reads this, "Why do we need a rep system? We've never had one in the past, so why now?" :shrug:

I've given a negative since the feature has been implemented with no regrets because I felt what I said needed to be said without disrupting the board -- hopefully it was viewed as constructive criticism. If a comment is used correctly there's no reason not to give a negative comment if someone can learn from it. I would never just "bash" anyone for no reason whether it be a post or a rep. I also think if the neg feature is used correctly it could cut down on some of the distractions on the board (if only viewed as constructive critism)

But whatever is decided by FW and the rest of the board is fine with me. :)

[Jayelles]

My vote is that we keep it but make all the comments public. This way we can see who is voting for whom and why. I think this will make the system more meaningful.

At the moment, someone could have 200 reputation points, but we don't know whether that's made up of 8 positives or 20 positives and 10 negatives etc etc

By making the comments public, we could see who is using the system correctly and who is abusing it. I have given positive votes to people whose opinion I disagree with, but who presented interesting arguments in a polite manner and their posts made me think. Yet another poster admitted giving me a neg just becasue she disagreed with what I'd said.

In some respects, removing the anonymity of the voting is a double edged sword. It certainly has reduced (maybe even eliminated) the blank negs but some people might be wary of giving a legitimate neg for fear of retaliation out of pure spite - and let's face it, the people most likely to earn legitimate negs are quite likely to be the types who would do this! If the comments were public, it would allow everyone to decide whether they felt reputation had been earned fairly and squarely ... or not.

[Brainstorm]

I guess my perspective is different than yours dallasvic (no disrespect but) Thats the problem - people won't give negatives for fear of getting one now that their nics can be seen. I'm not against nics being seen because I think its stopped the hanky panky that was going on but in all honesty I don't see any good reason for the rep system other than to cause dischord. I have to ask anyone who reads this, "Why do we need a rep system? We've never had one in the past, so why now?" :shrug:

ITA....O2.........and especially on the Tara board.MOST of us there are there because of Tara...to try to find Tara,A MISSING PERSON,not for the sake of posting on a message board. I have gotten really interested in a few other stories and have posted, but again,Not for the sake of posting.(I followed several cases on Court TV and was extremely dedicated & interested in the process,such as Scotty boy,but I refuse to discuss that scum,he isnt worth my time) For the sake,IMO, of being able to freely and OPENLY discuss cases.(I see no need for a lot of critiquing each other,for expressing an opinion.) Thats what we're here for.
CL should at least LET US VOTE,as a community/whatever/on each forum
as to using the feature or not. I would,of course,vote NOT.
jmhho
:)

[gacountry]

Hi Athena! Hope you're having a good one! ITA. I've also given a neg rep to a poster I felt needed to hear what was wrong with what they posted and why. I also didn't want to put it on the board because I felt it would have disrupted the rhythm of the posts and distracted from the discussion at hand. I don't think the neg rep feature should be used to bash posters who have a differing opinion than your own nor should it be used to bash posters that you don't "like". I think it should be used as constructive critism, also. But, in the end, just like you, whatever the majority decides is fine by me!

Hello Brooke!
I think the rep system is OK but I think in order for it to be fair you have to post on more than one thread. I have been a poster of a certain thread since it began, within a few weeks anyway, and my post are meet with neg remarks not for my opinion but for who I am. I received so much neg rep that it was depressing and I did not know who they were from~~but I knew by the style and words of the post WHO they came from. And yes I gave some neg back and I tried to state why I disagreed. I think probably it is a wonderful idea on most boards and since I have interests in several boards I do not worry about it. LOL, we all know who we are and what we stand for just be happy with yourself and let the neg reps give you a good chuckle. I bout laughed myself to death when the system first came out and all my bad reps came, I even pmed Freshwater to see if I might just plum disappear!!!

[attorneywan2be]

My vote is that we keep it but make all the comments public. This way we can see who is voting for whom and why. I think this will make the system more meaningful.

At the moment, someone could have 200 reputation points, but we don't know whether that's made up of 8 positives or 20 positives and 10 negatives etc etc

By making the comments public, we could see who is using the system correctly and who is abusing it. I have given positive votes to people whose opinion I disagree with, but who presented interesting arguments in a polite manner and their posts made me think. Yet another poster admitted giving me a neg just becasue she disagreed with what I'd said.

In some respects, removing the anonymity of the voting is a double edged sword. It certainly has reduced (maybe even eliminated) the blank negs but some people might be wary of giving a legitimate neg for fear of retaliation out of pure spite - and let's face it, the people most likely to earn legitimate negs are quite likely to be the types who would do this! If the comments were public, it would allow everyone to decide whether they felt reputation had been earned fairly and squarely ... or not.

I second that...:beer:

This is an excellent suggestion...since the results of post approval or disapproval are public, which is the "user reputation" then it would be fair to make the backup info of those results public as well..

[Jayelles]

I second that...:beer:

This is an excellent suggestion...since the results of post approval or disapproval are public, which is the "user reputation" then it would be fair to make the backup info of those results public as well..

I'm too sexy for my post...:biggrin:

[attorneywan2be]

I'm too sexy for my post...:biggrin:


LOL.........:D

[hypnotized]

I will suggest that it might be more interesting/valuable to keep the rep point system board specific. That might keep the "games" minimized on each board.

[Atok]

That idea piques my interest Hypno... If it isn't too difficult I think it would be very telling indeed. I can see how someone would have a glowing rep at one case and a devil rep at another and then there would be people whose rep is the same everywhere and I think that would really be the real proof in the pudding as to their true nature.

Interesting to think about...

[lorettalockhorn]

I'm too sexy for my post...:biggrin:

Too funny! :beer:

Seriously, I just realized that I can't give rep to peeps that I have given rep to before. WTH is up with that? Do I really, really have to give negative rep or fake positive rep to someone who consistently drags down a thread in order to give points to people who contribute? :flamemad:

If so, get rid of it!

[FDInLaw]

I'm too sexy for my post...:biggrin: Of course you are, Darling! :)

Now, I'm gonna have that song in my head all day! :tongue:

[lorettalockhorn]

Who cares? Just be confident in yourself and your posting. Whether I do or don't have brownie points won't keep me away, and I don't have to be in the majority to feel comfortable. Everyone's opinion of whom drags down the thread is different. I guess it just depends on what side of view you are on in the thread.


My bad. I think that my post went way over your head. I'm not talking about my rep, I'm saying that I would like to increase someone else's rep. Sorry that I didn't make that clear enough for you to understand. I'm confident in my own posts and didn't even know what the rep thing was until recently. The only two negative reps that I've gotten came from an argumentative, unpleasant type so I didn't take it seriously, believe me.

Unlike some, I haven't given any negative reps. And certainly wouldn't do so just because someone has a different opinion. That would be the MO of someone who gets up on the wrong side of the bed every day of the world. I've just never been a believer in the positive aspects of negative reinforcement.

[Jayelles]

Who cares? Just be confident in yourself and your posting. Whether I do or don't have brownie points won't keep me away, and I don't have to be in the majority to feel comfortable. Everyone's opinion of whom drags down the thread is different. I guess it just depends on what side of view you are on in the thread.

I agree with this statement. I have a continued professional interest in group dynamics because it's a major factor in bullying which is something I have to deal with regularly (I'm a teacher). It's a recognised fact that internet forums are a great place to observe group behaviour and they are often used as examples on courses which I have been on.

Anyway, I have noted one poster who is constantly rude to others and yet his/her reputation goes up and up. It therefore seems to me that some members must be giving this person positive reputation points for making rude posts!

Now this fits into the group dynamics of the bully because bullies cannot function without peer support. Forums such as this have several different groups. The forum as a whole is a group, then there are sub-groups who may follow a particular case or who share RL interests. Invariably, within these sub-groups you'll have factions on either side of the fence. Some are capable of polite discussion and others are not and will attack each other - whether blatantly or by using sarcasm. The reputation system has definitely curbed a lot of the more blatant behaviour but statistically, there will be the odd few posters who don't give a hoot and who will risk an infraction for the satisfaction of making an attack. It is my guess (based on the study of group behaviour) that there are others who refrain from attacking because they fear the consequences of an infraction, but who will still "join in" by rewarding the bolder member who doesn't give a hoot with positive reputation points for making the attack!

[FDInLaw]

My bad. I think that my post went way over your head. I'm not talking about my rep, I'm saying that I would like to increase someone else's rep. Sorry that I didn't make that clear enough for you to understand. I'm confident in my own posts and didn't even know what the rep thing was until recently. The only two negative reps that I've gotten came from an argumentative, unpleasant type so I didn't take it seriously, believe me.

Unlike some, I haven't given any negative reps. And certainly wouldn't do so just because someone has a different opinion. That would be the MO of someone who gets up on the wrong side of the bed every day of the world. I've just never been a believer in the positive aspects of negative reinforcement.
*FD stumping over to administer some :punch: therapy*

Girl! What's all this? Been posting with you for some time now and I gotta say I think you're losing perspective. If someone is constantly attacking you on the side and leaving negative feed back when you have not given any, take it for what it is. That person has obviously stooped to level where you don't need to go. Whatever is going on, it's time to shake it off. We need your head on Nona's board! DFTT!

(A side note, when you put someone on "Ignore" you can no longer see their negative feed back on your CP. Just a thought. If this is what is getting you down, put the person on Iggy and be done with it! )

[lorettalockhorn]

I agree with this statement. I have a continued professional interest in group dynamics because it's a major factor in bullying which is something I have to deal with regularly (I'm a teacher). It's a recognised fact that internet forums are a great place to observe group behaviour and they are often used as examples on courses which I have been on.

Anyway, I have noted one poster who is constantly rude to others and yet his/her reputation goes up and up. It therefore seems to me that some members must be giving this person positive reputation points for making rude posts!

Now this fits into the group dynamics of the bully because bullies cannot function without peer support. Forums such as this have several different groups. The forum as a whole is a group, then there are sub-groups who may follow a particular case or who share RL interests. Invariably, within these sub-groups you'll have factions on either side of the fence. Some are capable of polite discussion and others are not and will attack each other - whether blatantly or by using sarcasm. The reputation system has definitely curbed a lot of the more blatant behaviour but statistically, there will be the odd few posters who don't give a hoot and who will risk an infraction for the satisfaction of making an attack. It is my guess (based on the study of group behaviour) that there are others who refrain from attacking because they fear the consequences of an infraction, but who will still "join in" by rewarding the bolder member who doesn't give a hoot with positive reputation points for making the attack!

Agree. SQ has made it clear that she not only doesn't give a hoot; she doesn't give a shi#*. Personally, I think that only lowers a person's credibility. Ironically the people with the negative attitudes are often striving the hardest to make their position understood and respected.

[Jayelles]

I think we need to chill out:-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4MliYFRsXw&mode=related&search=

[FDInLaw]

I think we need to chill out:-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4MliYFRsXw&mode=related&search=
:lol: Oh, you are too funny!

Here's one of my favorite "shake it off" songs:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omFdpnSu57U

Anyone else got a favorite to share? What calms you down?

:seeya:

[lorettalockhorn]

Maybe not calming, but def one of my favorite mvids:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OyxPxpSvXQ8

[FDInLaw]

Maybe not calming, but def one of my favorite mvids:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OyxPxpSvXQ8

Oh, I remember that one from when I was a kid! :) :)

The use of humor is a great way to calm down.

In light of your experiences, Loretta, what is your opinion of the reputation system? Do you like it or do you think it should go?

[lorettalockhorn]

Oh, I remember that one from when I was a kid! :) :)

The use of humor is a great way to calm down.

In light of your experiences, Loretta, what is your opinion of the reputation system? Do you like it or do you think it should go?

I don't really have an opinion; haven't voted yet. I've gotten a couple of dings, but they weren't constructive; just name calling. So I really don't know how to improve the particular post. Ya know?

[Jayelles]

I think the rep system has just brought different problems with it, I've been flamed for my reputation level. When FW got the changes done all those hidden reps suddenly showed up and so I went from having one grey square to 4 greens and was accused of having engineered some kind of funny business!

I've seen other posters with high reputations being accused of getting them by "working the boards".

I think it's a distraction. I'm all in favour of infractions, but as a merit system, I don't think the reps are working as they could.

[FDInLaw]

There are situations were the rep system is abused but for the most part I see it as positive. I genuinely enjoy letting others know I appreciate what they have to say. I usually try to go out of my way to find a reason to give a person I disagree with positive feed back. IMO this is a great way to foster good will on the boards. The times where I have received positive feed back in this manner has meant a lot to me. The ultimate value of the reputation system rest solely on how we the users choose to view it and use it. MOO

:patriot:

[lorettalockhorn]

The problem that I have with it, is that since I have a tendency to stay in the Nona Dirksmeyer forum, I can't give +s to people that are consistently logical and able to express their thoughts in a positive manner. It's hard to spread the rep around to posters that I'm familiar with without being forced to go in search of good posts in cases that aren't of primary interests.

I don't give negative rep; if a poster is out of line enough that I have negative thoughts about his/her post, I'll simply report it. There have been some that I should have reported but didn't, which was irresponsible on my part.

[LindaA]

I voted to eliminate it. If you tell the truth to someone when you disapprove of their post, they send you nasty PMs.

[Luke Davis]

:lol: Oh, you are too funny!

Here's one of my favorite "shake it off" songs:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omFdpnSu57U

Anyone else got a favorite to share? What calms you down?

:seeya:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=el8meJ3XOyg&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Eyoutube%2Ecom%2Fuser%2Fcar pen0ktem

[FDInLaw]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=el8meJ3XOyg&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Eyoutube%2Ecom%2Fuser%2Fcar pen0ktem
:lol: Oh. . . you're killing me! LOL! That one is great! :biggrin:

[Jayelles]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=el8meJ3XOyg&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Eyoutube%2Ecom%2Fuser%2Fcar pen0ktem

They are VERY clever. I looked at a few of them - thanks for posting that!

[lorettalockhorn]

I voted to eliminate it. If you tell the truth to someone when you disapprove of their post, they send you nasty PMs.


Yep, for some it's a way of being abusive without being detected by the moderator.

Just consider the source; most people who have a valid point to make about your post will address it in the forum, encouraging debate.

[Jayelles]

Dear Crimelibrary Moderators,

After careful consideration and in depth consultation with an international team of Image Consultants.... I regret to inform you that their unanimous opinion is that Crimelibrary members are far too sexy for this reputation system.

Love from Jay XXX

:biggrin:

[FDInLaw]

Dear Crimelibrary Moderators,

After careful consideration and in depth consultation with an international team of Image Consultants.... I regret to inform you that their unanimous opinion is that Crimelibrary members are far too sexy for this reputation system.

Love from Jay XXX

:biggrin:
You too funny! :D

[cabojenn]

What do the different colors mean? In the User CP I noticed that I have bright green boxes with nice comments and what appears to be darker green boxes with no comments. Are the darker green boxes bad? I know that we aren't supposed to be ale to give bad feedback without comment. Man I hope not because the one giving them (dark green) to me is family. ha ha ha ha ...

maybe the other color is blue, not dark green.

[cabojenn]

Dear Crimelibrary Moderators,

After careful consideration and in depth consultation with an international team of Image Consultants.... I regret to inform you that their unanimous opinion is that Crimelibrary members are far too sexy for this reputation system.

Love from Jay XXX

:biggrin:


:lol: :lol: :lol:

[attorneywan2be]

What do the different colors mean? In the User CP I noticed that I have bright green boxes with nice comments and what appears to be darker green boxes with no comments. Are the darker green boxes bad? I know that we aren't supposed to be ale to give bad feedback without comment. Man I hope not because the one giving them (dark green) to me is family. ha ha ha ha ...

maybe the other color is blue, not dark green.

As far as I know..

Green = positive
Red = negative
Blue = doesn't count because the poster that gave the rep had less than 50 posts at the time

[FrankieBones1]

Yes, keep it as is 23............ 37.10%
Yes, Keep it but I have a suggestion (post your suggestion) 2...... 3.23%
No, eliminate it 37............. 59.68%

[GSDSRULE]

I vote to eliminate it. There are some very childish and vindictive posters that actually gang up on people they don't like. I guess they can't stand that other people have differing opinions.

I don't see what useful purpose there is in this rating system. People can agree or disagree on the thread or take it to pm's. It just serves as a way for some posters to harass people they don't like.

[sweetcharlotte]

I've had 3 negative feedbacks today from a person with less than 50 posts.

Personal - I think so. lol

[sweetcharlotte]

Oh, great. She just left # 4. That's when you know it's really a personal thing.

[Jayelles]

Oh, great. She just left # 4. That's when you know it's really a personal thing.

Let me get this right, this one person has left FOUR reps for you in the space of 1 day??? That means he/she has been very busy with reps in order to "spread" sufficient reputation to come back to you - right?

I suppose that in order to determine whether it was "personal", we'd need to know if this person is leaving negative reps for everyone else, or positive reps for everyone else in order to spread enough reputation to leave negative reps for YOU! (does that makes sense?).

Be glad their reps aren't counting :-/

[sweetcharlotte]

Actually - 3 in one day = 10:21 a.m., 9:50 p.m., 11:18 p.m.........

and the 4th one at 1:01 a.m.

If it is true that you must spread the reputation around, I'd say she has been a busy girl (or is she a he?).

[Sharon]

Actually - 3 in one day = 10:21 a.m., 9:50 p.m., 11:18 p.m.........

and the 4th one at 1:01 a.m.

If it is true that you must spread the reputation around, I'd say she has been a busy girl (or is she a he?).

If you ever feel like someone is singling you out and unfairly attacking you, report her to FW as you have her/his name. This is clearly breaking the rules and the spirit of the rules. This is lynch mob mentality, and I dont think it should be tollerated. imo

[Sharon]

And another suggestion.....any chance of getting spell check for people like me?????:shrug:

[sweetcharlotte]

Sharon....

I think you were kidding about spell check, but look right above the "smilies" display. See the ABC(check). You can download spell check from there.

[Luke Davis]

I've had 3 negative feedbacks today from a person with less than 50 posts.

Personal - I think so. lolWith less than 50 posts, reps are neutral (black). moo

[FrankieBones1]

Yes, keep it as is 23............ 37.10%
Yes, Keep it but I have a suggestion (post your suggestion) 2...... 3.23%
No, eliminate it 37............. 59.68%

I'm quoting my own post because I forgot to comment on the poll as it stood yesterday.
I agree with the majority. It should be eliminated before it further causes more hurt feelings for some members.
My opinion only.

[sweetcharlotte]

Hello, Everyone. I just got my 7th negative feedback from the same poster! Now I know for sure I am special!

Way to go, STL. I'm sure I already hold a record - thanks to you!

[One2Snoop]

Hello, Everyone. I just got my 7th negative feedback from the same poster! Now I know for sure I am special!

Way to go, STL. I'm sure I already hold a record - thanks to you!

Are you sure its negative or just negative comments? If the person has less than 50 posts the rep points don't count. If its a red box then somethings wrong but you should only be seeing a gray(blue to some) box.

One other question, how can this person leave you that many reps in a day? I thought FW had it set up so you could only leave a person one rep in a 24hour period of time. :confused: I wonder if there's a glitch somewhere?

Please forward your info to FW so she/he can check it out.

[sweetcharlotte]

Are you sure its negative or just negative comments? If the person has less than 50 posts the rep points don't count. If its a red box then somethings wrong but you should only be seeing a gray(blue to some) box.

One other question, how can this person leave you that many reps in a day? I thought FW had it set up so you could only leave a person one rep in a 24hour period of time. :confused: I wonder if there's a glitch somewhere?

Please forward your info to FW so she/he can check it out.

Yes, I am sure they are negative. Comments are included/times are shown. This person had less than 50 posts when four of the negative ratings were given. They still have less than 100 and the color is blue/gray, but I expect at some point (I thought 50, too) they will turn to red.

[Q-T]

How do you check your own reputation? I can't seem to find it.

[sweetcharlotte]

How do you check your own reputation? I can't seem to find it.


Scroll up to the top of this page. On the far left hand side you will see
"User CP." Click on that.

[Q-T]

I did that and I don't see it in there. ?????

[sweetcharlotte]

I did that and I don't see it in there. ?????

Try again. Scroll up, click on User CP and then scroll down.

[Q-T]

Try again. Scroll up, click on User CP and then scroll down.

LOL NOW I can see it!!!!! Thank you.

[sweetcharlotte]

LOL NOW I can see it!!!!! Thank you.

You are welcome. Now go out there and earn those reputation points! lol

[Amy]

Boy, I need to get out more (into different areas of the board.) I didn't even have a clue this was here--altho I have some comments as early as June 13, I think.

I have 233 "points" whatever that means. lol

Do we get prizes or something if we reach say, 500 points or so? :)

I did enjoy the comments made by fellow posters..but haven't a clue as to how to comment on their posts (which is why I usually make my comments on the thread.)

Guess I will look to see more about this.

From the other posts, I guess one purpose it might serve is to keep some of the personal differences off the board, and just between 2 posters? I don't suppose someone with a certain number of negatives would eventually be banned---especially if the negative is all coming from one person?

It would be interesting to know why I only have 22 posts, tho. I'm sure I've done a tad bit more than that since this forum opened.

[sweetcharlotte]

ROFL.......then all I can say is ........someone has been very busy.

[Sharon]

Hello, Everyone. I just got my 7th negative feedback from the same poster! Now I know for sure I am special!

Way to go, STL. I'm sure I already hold a record - thanks to you!

I think we should know who this poster is. This poster must have serious problems and should not be posting here. imo

[attorneywan2be]

Hello, Everyone. I just got my 7th negative feedback from the same poster! Now I know for sure I am special!

Way to go, STL. I'm sure I already hold a record - thanks to you!


Wow..you got 7 neg feedback from the same poster in couple of days? I think you should report this situation to FW..

[HowardLovedAnna]

Wow..you got 7 neg feedback from the same poster in couple of days? I think you should report this situation to FW..

I got about 5 from the same person in a couple of days lol

[Jayelles]

Yes, I am sure they are negative. Comments are included/times are shown. This person had less than 50 posts when four of the negative ratings were given. They still have less than 100 and the color is blue/gray, but I expect at some point (I thought 50, too) they will turn to red.

Does this person have a negative (red) or neutral (blue) reputation him/herself?

I could be wrong, but isn't there two qualificants for a person's votes to count?

1) that they must have more than 50 posts
2) that their own reputation must be postive?

I thought I read this somewhere along the lines.

[Jayelles]

Wow..you got 7 neg feedback from the same poster in couple of days? I think you should report this situation to FW..

Agreed. Well it does sound like harassment to me. Put it this way, if I felt so strongly about someone that I felt the need to give them negative votes 7 times in a couple of days, I think the grievance should have been in the hands of the Mods anyway!

[attorneywan2be]

I'm quoting my own post because I forgot to comment on the poll as it stood yesterday.
I agree with the majority. It should be eliminated before it further causes more hurt feelings for some members.
My opinion only.


So far, 60.27% want to eliminate the rep system..

[lorettalockhorn]

Agreed. Well it does sound like harassment to me. Put it this way, if I felt so strongly about someone that I felt the need to give them negative votes 7 times in a couple of days, I think the grievance should have been in the hands of the Mods anyway!

That is exactly why I don't give disapprovals. I have a feeling that the people who are fractious and make personal attacks on the board are on the mods' radar anyway.

[attorneywan2be]

That is exactly why I don't give disapprovals. I have a feeling that the people who are fractious and make personal attacks on the board are on the mods' radar anyway.

Same here, I don't give neg rep..

[Luke Davis]

Same here, I don't give neg rep..I think it is interesting that people with 11 green boxes have been banned and there is a poster with two red boxes still posting.

:shrug:

[I'mSun]

I think it is interesting that people with 11 green boxes have been banned and there is a poster with two red boxes still posting.

:shrug:Wow - that's rather curious, don't you think?

[attorneywan2be]

I think it is interesting that people with 11 green boxes have been banned and there is a poster with two red boxes still posting.

:shrug:

Hi Luke..:seeya:

I think sometimes the number of green boxes is only a reflection of how many friends that poster has, friends that would give that poster pos rep whether he is right or wrong, whether or not he violates the rules..for example, that poster who had 11 green boxes most likely violated the rules, otherwise, FW would not have banned him...on the other hand, I think sometimes a poster might have a red box just because his view of the case he is posting about is in the minority, and some posters would give a neg rep just because they have a difference of opinion..that's why he is still posting..

Just my 2 cents...:D

[Evening2]

Hi Luke..:seeya:

I think sometimes the number of green boxes is only a reflection of how many friends that poster has, friends that would give that poster pos rep whether he is right or wrong, whether or not he violates the rules..for example, that poster who had 11 green boxes most likely violated the rules, otherwise, FW would not have banned him...on the other hand, I think sometimes a poster might have a red box just because his view of the case he is posting about is in the minority, and some posters would give a neg rep just because they have a difference of opinion..that's why he is still posting..

Just my 2 cents...:D

Just when I think I am beginning to understand the "system", something else happens that puts me back to ground zero. I don't want to sound like I'm complaining, but how could I POSSIBLY get pos rep from the same poster in less than a 24-hr period? That just doesn't make sense, to me.

~Evening2

[Zoey]

Hi Luke..:seeya:

I think sometimes the number of green boxes is only a reflection of how many friends that poster has, friends that would give that poster pos rep whether he is right or wrong, whether or not he violates the rules..for example, that poster who had 11 green boxes most likely violated the rules, otherwise, FW would not have banned him...on the other hand, I think sometimes a poster might have a red box just because his view of the case he is posting about is in the minority, and some posters would give a neg rep just because they have a difference of opinion..that's why he is still posting..

Just my 2 cents...:D


I so agree with you on this.

[samanthajane13]

90% of the forums I belong to have done away with thier reputation features. A lot of them have sited that they're just glorified popularity meters, and as such, they should be disabled, because even "unpopular" people have valid opinions, etc.

A lot of people were giving extra points to their best friends and ganging up on people they didn't like.

The Crested Gecko forum I belong to disabled their Kharma system several months ago, and now people aren't fighting amongst themselves or sucking up to the administrator, either.

[Athena]

Hi Luke..:seeya:

I think sometimes the number of green boxes is only a reflection of how many friends that poster has, friends that would give that poster pos rep whether he is right or wrong, whether or not he violates the rules..for example, that poster who had 11 green boxes most likely violated the rules, otherwise, FW would not have banned him...on the other hand, I think sometimes a poster might have a red box just because his view of the case he is posting about is in the minority, and some posters would give a neg rep just because they have a difference of opinion..that's why he is still posting..

Just my 2 cents...:D

Unfortunately you are probably right and some posters don't use them as they were intended to be used. I honestly can say that I've given pos rep for the quality of a post, even to those I disagree with. The only negative rep I've given was to a poster who chose to make their point within their post with this EXTRA LARGE FONT that was so totally distracting that when I gave it I was doing it as constructive criticism as the content was not against TOS. The poster, BTW, never said anything but stopped using the EXTRA LARGE FONT. Other posts that are against the rules, I leave up to the mods to deal with. JMO

[Jayelles]

Hi Luke..:seeya:

I think sometimes the number of green boxes is only a reflection of how many friends that poster has, friends that would give that poster pos rep whether he is right or wrong, whether or not he violates the rules..for example, that poster who had 11 green boxes most likely violated the rules, otherwise, FW would not have banned him...on the other hand, I think sometimes a poster might have a red box just because his view of the case he is posting about is in the minority, and some posters would give a neg rep just because they have a difference of opinion..that's why he is still posting..

Just my 2 cents...:D

I agree. That's why I have been such a strong advocate of displaying the comments as well as the green boxes. That way we could see what had earned the positive or negative vote.

[Jayelles]

90% of the forums I belong to have done away with thier reputation features. A lot of them have sited that they're just glorified popularity meters, and as such, they should be disabled, because even "unpopular" people have valid opinions, etc.

A lot of people were giving extra points to their best friends and ganging up on people they didn't like.

The Crested Gecko forum I belong to disabled their Kharma system several months ago, and now people aren't fighting amongst themselves or sucking up to the administrator, either.

Thanks for sharing your experiences on other forums. I've never been on a forum which had a rep system before. I value the coments more than the points and would prefer NOT to display the boxes if I had the choice.

[samanthajane13]

I don't think negative reputation points should EVER be given based on a poster's opinion or whether you like the person or not.

They should only be given based on violating TOS, fighting with another poster, or actions that are disruptive to the forum. and in that case, they should be reported to the admin. or whoever is running that particular part of the board.

Postitive reputation points should only be given for quality of posts. NOT popularity or opinion. And there should be a way to block people who just hit the rep. button again and again. All positive rep should have to be explained in some way.

[Louisadelmar]

I like it because it seems to reduce the number of times I open a thread and the new comment consists only of "I agree."

[Luke Davis]

Hi Luke..:seeya:

I think sometimes the number of green boxes is only a reflection of how many friends that poster has, friends that would give that poster pos rep whether he is right or wrong, whether or not he violates the rules..for example, that poster who had 11 green boxes most likely violated the rules, otherwise, FW would not have banned him...on the other hand, I think sometimes a poster might have a red box just because his view of the case he is posting about is in the minority, and some posters would give a neg rep just because they have a difference of opinion..that's why he is still posting..

Just my 2 cents...:D

That's why I think it is interesting. Reminds me of a politician who gets elected over and over, then is convicted and sentenced by a judge.

[LindaA]

I like it because it seems to reduce the number of times I open a thread and the new comment consists only of "I agree."
When was this change made? I wonder what effect it will have.

[chambord]

I think it is interesting that people with 11 green boxes have been banned and there is a poster with two red boxes still posting.

:shrug:


Hi Luke

Nice to come across you again. I find it interesting that the ones doing the complaining are the one's that initiated FW's change. Can I use hypocrite here.

[sweetcharlotte]

No hypocrite here. Just one of the ones who brought the matter to Freshwater's attention in a way that she understood the situation more clearly.

jmo

[sweetcharlotte]

Hi Luke..:seeya:

I think sometimes the number of green boxes is only a reflection of how many friends that poster has, friends that would give that poster pos rep whether he is right or wrong, whether or not he violates the rules..for example, that poster who had 11 green boxes most likely violated the rules, otherwise, FW would not have banned him...on the other hand, I think sometimes a poster might have a red box just because his view of the case he is posting about is in the minority, and some posters would give a neg rep just because they have a difference of opinion..that's why he is still posting..

Just my 2 cents...:D

And I totally agree.

[LindaA]

I guess it really works better this way. I know that on the rare occasion that I gave someone a neg. I'd get a whining PM from them and shortly thereafter they'd usually find a reason to give me one. This way it's positive or nothing.

I think the fact that you cannot give someone more than one rep point before giving some unknown number to other people keeps us from awarding too many points to our friends.

[Jadedblueeyes]

I guess it really works better this way. I know that on the rare occasion that I gave someone a neg. I'd get a whining PM from them and shortly thereafter they'd usually find a reason to give me one. This way it's positive or nothing.

I think the fact that you cannot give someone more than one rep point before giving some unknown number to other people keeps us from awarding too many points to our friends.

I have never given a neg rep to any poster but in the last week I have been bombarded by them.

Yesterday I received two red reps in 20 minutes from the same poster.:eek: I didn't even know you could give reps that quickly, good or bad.:shrug: Not a thing in the world to do with my post but everything to do with my opinion being different than theirs. Very immature and petty.

When I give a pos. rep I always explain to the poster what I thought about that individual post.

imo

[mylipsaresealed]

No hypocrite here. Just one of the ones who brought the matter to Freshwater's attention in a way that she understood the situation more clearly.

jmo

"No hypocrite here." ??????????????????


Is that right? I have a nasty remark from you about me NOT posting what YOU wanted me to say left on my reputation. It wasn't about what I posted, just a snide, rude remark about what I didn't post. WHAT A JOKE!!!

Why don't you be honest? :no:

[Bailey Boys]

"No hypocrite here." ??????????????????


Is that right? I have a nasty remark from you about me NOT posting what YOU wanted me to say left on my reputation. It wasn't about what I posted, just a snide, rude remark about what I didn't post. WHAT A JOKE!!!

Why don't you be honest? :no:

psst...you are not the only one she has played that game with....

[sweetcharlotte]

"No hypocrite here." ??????????????????


Is that right? I have a nasty remark from you about me NOT posting what YOU wanted me to say left on my reputation. It wasn't about what I posted, just a snide, rude remark about what I didn't post. WHAT A JOKE!!!

Why don't you be honest? :no:


Why don't we be honest? Tit for tat.......


jmo

[mylipsaresealed]

psst...you are not the only one she has played that game with....

Well it started the very first day I posted on the ANS thread here, and she is the ONLY poster to leave me rude comments. I see that she had posted on here about getting negative comments, when in fact she is the ONLY poster to leave rude and nasty comments to me. I just couldn't allow this to go after reading the comments that were left here by that particular poster.

I realize that the features have been changed in regards to post approval and disapproval, but I really wanted FW to know how this poster operates.

[mylipsaresealed]

Why don't we be honest? Tit for tat.......


jmo


No, I don't think so. I gave you a disapproval of your post because of what you posted and the manner you posted it. That is what we were supposed to do right?


Well not anymore, probably because of you.

JMO

[rachelslaw]

Well it started the very first day I posted on the ANS thread here, and she is the ONLY poster to leave me rude comments. I see that she had posted on here about getting negative comments, when in fact she is the ONLY poster to leave rude and nasty comments to me. I just couldn't allow this to go after reading the comments that were left here by that particular poster.

I realize that the features have been changed in regards to post approval and disapproval, but I really wanted FW to know how this poster operates.

FW knows because I reported a particularly rude remark directed to me as a poster and clearly not to the content of my post. No worries. FW knows exactly who the offending poster is and I'm confident has also noted the interest and responses on this particular thread as well.

IMO

:seeya:

[sweetcharlotte]

No, I don't think so. I gave you a disapproval of your post because of what you posted and the manner you posted it. That is what we were supposed to do right?


Well not anymore, probably because of you.

JMO

Yes, I think you disagreed with my opinion so you popped me for that.

Oh, I don't think I'm the only one that complained about the rep feature. Maybe just more vocal.


jmo

[sweetcharlotte]

FW knows because I reported a particularly rude remark directed to me as a poster and clearly not to the content of my post. No worries. FW knows exactly who the offending poster is and I'm confident has also noted the interest and responses on this particular thread as well.

IMO

:seeya:


It would be safe to say that Freshwater knows who the offending posters are.

IMO

[mylipsaresealed]

Yes, I think you disagreed with my opinion so you popped me for that.

Oh, I don't think I'm the only one that complained about the rep feature. Maybe just more vocal.


jmo

Don't play innocent here, I know what you're about.

I disagreed with your post, there is a difference.

I hope FW does too. I wonder are they aware here of how you created two nics of posters with opposing views and posting under that name while using another, Shammie wasn't it?

Yep, we ALL know what you are like, I just want FW to know too.

[mylipsaresealed]

It would be safe to say that Freshwater knows who the offending posters are.

IMO

I don't know, you're still here so obviously you are lying. Or playing innocent again.

Both the same. How many nics do you have now? Are you still reporting posters using both nics in hopes of getting people banned like you did before? Yep, that is the real poster FW, don't let her fool you.

;)

[sweetcharlotte]

Don't play innocent here, I know what you're about.

I disagreed with your post, there is a difference.

I hope FW does too. I wonder are they aware here of how you created two nics of posters with opposing views and posting under that name while using another, Shammie wasn't it?

Yep, we ALL know what you are like, I just want FW to know too.



Then you admit that you gave me a neg rep because YOU DISAGREED WITH MY POST! That's a great example of how not to use the system!

A lot of people have double, possibly multiple nics. One at home/another at work/on on their PC/another of their laptop. As far as I know it's actually not against CTV's TOS.

If Freshwater or CW see that sweetcharlotte deserves banning I trust that either of them will do it in a flash. In the meantime, try not to worry about what I do so much as what you do.

JMO

[sweetcharlotte]

I don't know, you're still here so obviously you are lying. Or playing innocent again.

Both the same. How many nics do you have now? Are you still reporting posters using both nics in hopes of getting people banned like you did before? Yep, that is the real poster FW, don't let her fool you.

;)


I have complete confidence that Freshwater is capable of determining who needs to be banned. She certainly doesn't need me for that. Are you speaking from experience about people reporting other people? Is this something you have done in the past?

Like I said you take care of yourself and I am confident that I can do the same.

Hiding? I'm not hiding anything.

This is my last post to you regarding this matter.

JMO

[mylipsaresealed]

Then you admit that you gave me a neg rep because YOU DISAGREED WITH MY POST! That's a great example of how not to use the system!

A lot of people have double, possibly multiple nics. One at home/another at work/on on their PC/another of their laptop. As far as I know it's actually not against CTV's TOS.

If Freshwater or CW see that sweetcharlotte deserves banning I trust that either of them will do it in a flash. In the meantime, try not to worry about what I do so much as what you do.

JMO


There, another example of the word twisting, yes I admit I disagreed with your post, but it was the sarcastic, rude manner, than as we all know, you run to FW or CW and report people type of posts I agree with. Probably with all the nics you have made up. I didn't know people had different nics all over the place. I thought that one should be enough, but I guess when you used them to make yourself look good, you would know all about that.

I have always been respectful of people who have different opinions. That's great!! But not people who talk out of both sides of their mouth. You are great at that. Everyone knows it.

Now go whine, use all your nics. It's a shame you are being outed for what you are isn't it?

:punch:

[chambord]

Well this has been an informative morning. I hope FW comes in and addresses the use of multi nics. It seems to me, if you try and register a second nic, your IP would identify you. Using more than one nic seems rather unfair to me, kinda like a stacked deck.

[HowardLovedAnna]

There, another example of the word twisting, yes I admit I disagreed with your post, but it was the sarcastic, rude manner, than as we all know, you run to FW or CW and report people type of posts I agree with. Probably with all the nics you have made up. I didn't know people had different nics all over the place. I thought that one should be enough, but I guess when you used them to make yourself look good, you would know all about that.

I have always been respectful of people who have different opinions. That's great!! But not people who talk out of both sides of their mouth. You are great at that. Everyone knows it.

Now go whine, use all your nics. It's a shame you are being outed for what you are isn't it?

:punch:

Tbh without proof im not sure all of this should be printed here jmo. For sure too many people have there own agendas jmo

[HowardLovedAnna]

Well this has been an informative morning. I hope FW comes in and addresses the use of multi nics. It seems to me, if you try and register a second nic, your IP would identify you. Using more than one nic seems rather unfair to me, kinda like a stacked deck.

Cham you know as well as i do ..that even if she does it which i dont believe for one moment..then shes not the only one jmo

[sweetcharlotte]

Tbh without proof im not sure all of this should be printed here jmo. For sure too many people have there own agendas jmo


It's ok. The more people say, the more they say about themselves.

jmo:seeya:

ps - I think one of the reasons IPs are checked is to keep people who have been banned from returning.

[chambord]

Cham you know as well as i do ..that even if she does it which i dont believe for one moment..then shes not the only one jmo

I'm not singling any one poster. I just would like to know if its allowed. I'd like to have another nic, one that will always agree with me. *smile*

[HowardLovedAnna]

I'm not singling any one poster. I just would like to know if its allowed. I'd like to have another nic, one that will always agree with me. *smile*

Maybe you could have two..one called oranges and the other lemmons..you know like two that go together jmo

But in any event theres no proof she does that and ganging up on someone isnt nice jmo

[rachelslaw]

I like the Reputation Feature and I hope that it stays. I hope that FW considers the total amount of active members here as a whole, the amount of votes on this particular thread, and the responses here which only reflect a small portion of the whole, of which a majority are from a particularly volatile forum.

IMO

[Spencer33]

I don't know, you're still here so obviously you are lying. Or playing innocent again.

Both the same. How many nics do you have now? Are you still reporting posters using both nics in hopes of getting people banned like you did before? Yep, that is the real poster FW, don't let her fool you.

;)

Thanks so much for your honesty. I'm sure you speak for many of us here who are tired of the tricks and subterfuge and nastiness that some seem to revel in. It no longer seems to be about voicing your opinion on a topic but instead how many times you can smugly say something and then praise yourself in one of your duplicate nics, or run to your other forum and lay out a plan of action for everyone to gang up on a poster you dislike. It's all truly so childish that I feel like I should be buying school supplies next month and working on my outfit for the first day of 8th grade. JMHO.

[HowardLovedAnna]

Thanks so much for your honesty. I'm sure you speak for many of us here who are tired of the tricks and subterfuge and nastiness that some seem to revel in. It no longer seems to be about voicing your opinion on a topic but instead how many times you can smugly say something and then praise yourself in one of your duplicate nics, or run to your other forum and lay out a plan of action for everyone to gang up on a poster you dislike. It's all truly so childish that I feel like I should be buying school supplies next month and working on my outfit for the first day of 8th grade. JMHO.

Seriously ...you dont think its childish that people cant debate matters without ganging up on someone like is happening here? Sure seems to be the comments about the gangs trying to intimidate others are right jmo

[chambord]

Thanks so much for your honesty. I'm sure you speak for many of us here who are tired of the tricks and subterfuge and nastiness that some seem to revel in. It no longer seems to be about voicing your opinion on a topic but instead how many times you can smugly say something and then praise yourself in one of your duplicate nics, or run to your other forum and lay out a plan of action for everyone to gang up on a poster you dislike. It's all truly so childish that I feel like I should be buying school supplies next month and working on my outfit for the first day of 8th grade. JMHO.


LOL Spencer, I just ordered my new book bag from LLBean and I'm thinking of having it initialed with my second nic...*Top Shelf*

[chambord]

It's ok. The more people say, the more they say about themselves.

jmo:seeya:

ps - I think one of the reasons IPs are checked is to keep people who have been banned from returning.

But the banned seem to know how to get around it, don't they?

[Spencer33]

Seriously ...you dont think its childish that people cant debate matters without ganging up on someone like is happening here? Sure seems to be the comments about the gangs trying to intimidate others are right jmo

Considering you are the "replacement" moderator at the other forum where ganging up is planned when the other mod is absent for the weekend, I would think you wouldn't want to enter into this fray. Your innocent act is lost on me, and I don't take your comments too seriously. JMHO.

[Spencer33]

LOL Spencer, I just ordered my new book bag from LLBean and I'm thinking of having it initialed with my second nic...*Top Shelf*

LOL! My new nick is "NotSoSweet"!

[HowardLovedAnna]

Considering you are the "replacement" moderator at the other forum where ganging up is planned when the other mod is absent for the weekend, I would think you wouldn't want to enter into this fray. Your innocent act is lost on me, and I don't take your comments too seriously. JMHO.

Firstly this is against Tos to bring stuff here from other boards. Secondly in fact i dont even belong to that board i left it cos i didnt like what was happening on it. Thirdly that board doesnt even exist cos it was taken down a day or so ago. Fourthly this thread isnt meant to be for personal wars but to discuss the reputations.

[mylipsaresealed]

I don't want anyone to get into trouble for what I have posted here, but I felt the need to speak out about this poster. Her rudeness and obvious need to bash any opposing view from her own is tiresome and not what this board is about. Her endless one liners and posts about posters themselves instead of the content of the posts is on these boards for all to see. Than she sends nasty comments that can only be seen privately, all the while playing innocent to FW. It is not true and this poster is a farce. She has created drama and has done her best to inflame people who have added greatly to this thread. She has an agenda and it isn't about opinions even, it is about control of the board. She can not stand anyone to post something she does not agree with. Her responses are seldom about the topic, they are bait about the poster or posters.

FW....you can delete me, that is fine. I just want you to be aware of what she is doing. She is not being honest with you. She is setting good poster up with her lies. She has in the past created multiple nics to create drama and report posters. Why report with one nic, when you have 2,3,4, 5 or however many she creates at all here different places she posts. She has said it herself and I quote from her post " One at home/another at work/on on their PC/another of their laptop." What does that tell you? She is doing it. And I am confident when I say I know why, so she can report and harass people with all her nics.

Sorry for the commotion FW. It just was time it was out in the open.

[HowardLovedAnna]

I don't want anyone to get into trouble for what I have posted here, but I felt the need to speak out about this poster. Her rudeness and obvious need to bash any opposing view from her own is tiresome and not what this board is about. Her endless one liners and posts about posters themselves instead of the content of the posts is on these boards for all to see. Than she sends nasty comments that can only be seen privately, all the while playing innocent to FW. It is not true and this poster is a farce. She has created drama and has done her best to inflame people who have added greatly to this thread. She has an agenda and it isn't about opinions even, it is about control of the board. She can not stand anyone to post something she does not agree with. Her responses are seldom about the topic, they are bait about the poster or posters.

FW....you can delete me, that is fine. I just want you to be aware of what she is doing. She is not being honest with you. She is setting good poster up with her lies. She has in the past created multiple nics to create drama and report posters. Why report with one nic, when you have 2,3,4, 5 or however many she creates at all here different places she posts. She has said it herself and I quote from her post " One at home/another at work/on on their PC/another of their laptop." What does that tell you? She is doing it. And I am confident when I say I know why, so she can report and harass people with all her nics.

Sorry for the commotion FW. It just was time it was out in the open.


well if its true im sure fw can check it from the ip numbers and deal with it. If its not theres no problem.

[chambord]

I don't want anyone to get into trouble for what I have posted here, but I felt the need to speak out about this poster. Her rudeness and obvious need to bash any opposing view from her own is tiresome and not what this board is about. Her endless one liners and posts about posters themselves instead of the content of the posts is on these boards for all to see. Than she sends nasty comments that can only be seen privately, all the while playing innocent to FW. It is not true and this poster is a farce. She has created drama and has done her best to inflame people who have added greatly to this thread. She has an agenda and it isn't about opinions even, it is about control of the board. She can not stand anyone to post something she does not agree with. Her responses are seldom about the topic, they are bait about the poster or posters.

FW....you can delete me, that is fine. I just want you to be aware of what she is doing. She is not being honest with you. She is setting good poster up with her lies. She has in the past created multiple nics to create drama and report posters. Why report with one nic, when you have 2,3,4, 5 or however many she creates at all here different places she posts. She has said it herself and I quote from her post " One at home/another at work/on on their PC/another of their laptop." What does that tell you? She is doing it. And I am confident when I say I know why, so she can report and harass people with all her nics.

Sorry for the commotion FW. It just was time it was out in the open.


Your a brave woman, and I salute your courage. Its been a privilege to share trials with you. You brought much to the table anytime you voiced your opinion. I'd hate to see you disappear. It isn't often you come across someone who is as forthright as you have been looking back, and up to now. You decorate the place with your enthusiasm and sense of fair play.

:patriot:

[mylipsaresealed]

Your a brave woman, and I salute your courage. Its been a privilege to share trials with you. You brought much to the table anytime you voiced your opinion. I'd hate to see you disappear. It isn't often you come across someone who is as forthright as you have been looking back, and up to now. You decorate the place with your enthusiasm and sense of fair play.

:patriot:

Thank you for the kind words!

It has been a pleasure posting with you as well. I have respect for you and so many that have posted with me. Even many that didn't view things my way. It is all about respect and honesty.

I'm truly sorry to upset anyone, it is just time to be honest about the charade that this poster has been putting on.

:patriot:

[Spencer33]

Firstly this is against Tos to bring stuff here from other boards. Secondly in fact i dont even belong to that board i left it cos i didnt like what was happening on it. Thirdly that board doesnt even exist cos it was taken down a day or so ago. Fourthly this thread isnt meant to be for personal wars but to discuss the reputations.

If it's against TOS, I apologize. If you left that board, I apologize for my remark. And if that board was shut down, I'm happy. I will now treat you as I would any other poster who is truly here to discuss the case, with both respect and dignity.

[Mysteri]

Well this has been an informative morning. I hope FW comes in and addresses the use of multi nics. It seems to me, if you try and register a second nic, your IP would identify you. Using more than one nic seems rather unfair to me, kinda like a stacked deck.

That's why that particular poster wants to keep the Rep featrue when most of us do not. ( The votes are in and the majority want it gone ! They are tired of being bullied and misrepresented by the minority , a pack of bullies , who devote their lives to reporting others under their multiple nics and giving them bad reps for the wrong reasons. As you say, that one's Comments are offensive and nothing to do with the Topics we discuss )

We are tired of that game of multi nics. They evidently have several servers.
One poster continues to insinuate a poster is Stupid on the boards and rather than have an argument with them there and disrupt the boards, I gave them negatives for baiting and passing out unsubstantiated information, they made it up in fact. They never provide links either and are very rude.

I guess the squeaky wheel gets the soothing oil but I'm not about to spend my life reporting infractions because they are too time consuming.
I can't imagine who is silly enough to give any Bad reps now even if the other poster calls you an obscene name, you get punished for it...

The majority, who are NOT bullies, have voted to have it removed.
Only the bullies want to retain it for their own dark purposes.

That remains my view.

[chambord]

If it's against TOS, I apologize. If you left that board, I apologize for my remark. And if that board was shut down, I'm happy. I will now treat you as I would any other poster who is truly here to discuss the case, with both respect and dignity.


No need to apologize, IMO.It was pretty obvious what was happening here a few weeks ago. We all were victims of that. Perhaps now, we can put our school books away and conduct ourselves as adults.

[Spencer33]

No need to apologize, IMO.It was pretty obvious what was happening here a few weeks ago. We all were victims of that. Perhaps now, we can put our school books away and conduct ourselves as adults.


That would be a real pleasure, wouldn't it.

[grasshopper]

If it's against TOS, I apologize. If you left that board, I apologize for my remark. And if that board was shut down, I'm happy. I will now treat you as I would any other poster who is truly here to discuss the case, with both respect and dignity.


I very seldom post here but read a lot. I know what howardloved is speaking of is correct and please do not associate me or howardloves with the fall out who still have more than one nik,we have nothing to do with them or what they do.imo
thanks

[sweetcharlotte]

But the banned seem to know how to get around it, don't they?

I don't know. I've never been banned. My nic is sweetcharlotte, not sweetcharlotte1.

JMO

[mylipsaresealed]

I don't know. I've never been banned. My nic is sweetcharlotte, not sweetcharlotte1.

JMO

Oh you're never been banned as sweetcharlotte, what happened to Shammie? That's only one, don't out yourself and tell us what happened to the rest of your nics. :lol:

[WhiteOleander]

This is a message board, do we even really care?

[Spencer33]

I very seldom post here but read a lot. I know what howardloved is speaking of is correct and please do not associate me or howardloves with the fall out who still have more than one nik,we have nothing to do with them or what they do.imo
thanks

Thanks, Grasshopper. I will also treat you with respect and hope that you will do the same when you do post. Hopefully some of the old tensions have been cleared away today. Not all of them, but some of them.

[sweetcharlotte]

I don't want anyone to get into trouble for what I have posted here, but I felt the need to speak out about this poster. Her rudeness and obvious need to bash any opposing view from her own is tiresome and not what this board is about. Her endless one liners and posts about posters themselves instead of the content of the posts is on these boards for all to see. Than she sends nasty comments that can only be seen privately, all the while playing innocent to FW. It is not true and this poster is a farce. She has created drama and has done her best to inflame people who have added greatly to this thread. She has an agenda and it isn't about opinions even, it is about control of the board. She can not stand anyone to post something she does not agree with. Her responses are seldom about the topic, they are bait about the poster or posters.

FW....you can delete me, that is fine. I just want you to be aware of what she is doing. She is not being honest with you. She is setting good poster up with her lies. She has in the past created multiple nics to create drama and report posters. Why report with one nic, when you have 2,3,4, 5 or however many she creates at all here different places she posts. She has said it herself and I quote from her post " One at home/another at work/on on their PC/another of their laptop." What does that tell you? She is doing it. And I am confident when I say I know why, so she can report and harass people with all her nics.

Sorry for the commotion FW. It just was time it was out in the open.


Perhaps you would care to list these multiple nics that I supposedly have created and used in the past and am using. Shammie is a given. List the others. I'm sure that would help Freshwater out a great deal.

jmo

[chambord]

That would be a real pleasure, wouldn't it.



Hopefully mylips honest posts this morning as cleared the room for mature discussion and a respect for everyone's opinion without the snarky remarks and the payback comments.

You've been a delightful correspondent.

I'm beginning to think FW has allowed this thread to go on so that we can finally let our hair down and move on to a better place.

[rachelslaw]

That's why that particular poster wants to keep the Rep featrue when most of us do not. ( The votes are in and the majority want it gone ! They are tired of being bullied and misrepresented by the minority , a pack of bullies , who devote their lives to reporting others under their multiple nics and giving them bad reps for the wrong reasons. As you say, that one's Comments are offensive and nothing to do with the Topics we discuss )

We are tired of that game of multi nics. They evidently have several servers.
One poster continues to insinuate a poster is Stupid on the boards and rather than have an argument with them there and disrupt the boards, I gave them negatives for baiting and passing out unsubstantiated information, they made it up in fact. They never provide links either and are very rude.

I guess the squeaky wheel gets the soothing oil but I'm not about to spend my life reporting infractions because they are too time consuming.
I can't imagine who is silly enough to give any Bad reps now even if the other poster calls you an obscene name, you get punished for it...

The majority, who are NOT bullies, have voted to have it removed.
Only the bullies want to retain it for their own dark purposes.

That remains my view.

While I agree with most of what you said, I like the feature and voted to keep it. I think it is a useful feature when used properly as it can be encouraging to a poster to know that others appreciate their efforts. To me it's sad that the feature was abused by a bunch of bullies and because of them, the feature might be removed.

IMO

:seeya:

[sweetcharlotte]

ROFL......... the bit dog always yelps the loudest.

JMO

[Spencer33]

A typical snarky remark that lends absolutely nothing to the conversation. JMHO.

[chambord]

I don't know. I've never been banned. My nic is sweetcharlotte, not sweetcharlotte1.

JMO

I'm quite sure you and your multiple nics had something to do with my loss of my original nic. I wear this one proudly and never denied who I was originally. I don't understand why you seem to take this all to such a personal level. You use scriptures in your signature line, perhaps you should apply it in your posts. I find your responses here disturbing, and your trying to get the last word. Go for it, if it will make you a better person.

[WhiteOleander]

ROFL......... the bit dog always yelps the loudest.

JMO

LOL, thats for sure. Some people just don't get it

[chambord]

A typical snarky remark that lends absolutely nothing to the conversation. JMHO.

I was hopeful that clearing the air this nonesense would stop. I guess that's not going to be the case.

[HowardLovedAnna]

I'm quite sure you and your multiple nics had something to do with my loss of my original nic. I wear this one proudly and never denied who I was originally. I don't understand why you seem to take this all to such a personal level. You use scriptures in your signature line, perhaps you should apply it in your posts. I find your responses here disturbing, and your trying to get the last word. Go for it, if it will make you a better person.

Again this is against TOS but if your referring to the loss of cham on ctv..it was nothing to do with charlotte...more like comments that was made by you i would think. But...this is all way off topic tho jmo

[rachelslaw]

A typical snarky remark that lends absolutely nothing to the conversation. JMHO.


I just see that as just another bully tactic. I believe that there are some bullies that are jealous when they see a line of green dots next to a poster that they don't agree with. Therefore, they would love to see the feature removed. Of course, there are other message boards that don't have that feature at all, which I suppose could be an option for some.

I stated my reasons for liking the feature. Not everyone will agree with those reasons. But a snarky response generally indicates that the response is a personal one rather than an intellectual or logical one, which is just another example of bully tactics to make a point.

IMO

:seeya:

[WhiteOleander]

I'm quite sure you and your multiple nics had something to do with my loss of my original nic. I wear this one proudly and never denied who I was originally. I don't understand why you seem to take this all to such a personal level. You use scriptures in your signature line, perhaps you should apply it in your posts. I find your responses here disturbing, and your trying to get the last word. Go for it, if it will make you a better person.

How can some one else get you banned? don't you own your own behaviour?

[sweetcharlotte]

I pray that Freshwater is reading this thread.

jmo

[HowardLovedAnna]

I just see that as just another bully tactic. I believe that there are some bullies that are jealous when they see a line of green dots next to a poster that they don't agree with. Therefore, they would love to see the feature removed. Of course, there are other message boards that don't have that feature at all, which I suppose could be an option for some.

I stated my reasons for liking the feature. Not everyone will agree with those reasons. But a snarky response generally indicates that the response is a personal one rather than an intellectual or logical one, which is just another example of bully tactics to make a point.

IMO

:seeya:

My personal opinion is it should be the post and not the poster that gets attacked - that simply dont happen tho and the other thing is too much is getting brought over from ctv which isnt right either jmo

[chambord]

Again this is against TOS but if your referring to the loss of cham on ctv..it was nothing to do with charlotte...more like comments that was made by you i would think. But...this is all way off topic tho jmo

Perhaps you should tell that to charlotte who chided me for my nic change. That would certainly go a long way for proving your sincerity in making this the once congenial board it once was. Your friend went off topic with that comment to me, you just don't want to see the forest for the trees. I expect a snarky reply, don't disappoint me.

[sweetcharlotte]

I'm far too old to be jealous of a line of greenies, but I'll never be too old quit standing up for what is right.

JMO

[HowardLovedAnna]

Perhaps you should tell that to charlotte who chided me for my nic change. That would certainly go a long way for proving your sincerity in making this the once congenial board it once was. Your friend went off topic with that comment to me, you just don't want to see the forest for the trees. I expect a snarky reply, don't disappoint me.

The problem i have with that is when i know some people are trying to cause trouble for there own purposes. As ive said more than once..Fw should be left to sort any problems...he is the moderator and not us jmo

[sweetcharlotte]

Like I said, I really hope Freshwater is reading this thread - both the lines and what's between the lines.

jmo

[mylipsaresealed]

I'm far too old to be jealous of a line of greenies, but I'll never be too old quit standing up for what is right.

JMO

Yes you are so upstanding aren't you ? Too bad you outed yourself in your post here today about how easy it is for you to create all your nics, as you said, one at work, one at home, one on PC, one on laptop.

Guess at the moment you have one good nic and what? 3 spare to report and bash with this week?

Thank you for posting that so Fresh Water can see how conniving you are. :beer:

[sweetcharlotte]

Yes you are so upstanding aren't you ? Too bad you outed yourself in your post here today about how easy it is for you to create all your nics, as you said, one at work, one at home, one on PC, one on laptop.

Guess at the moment you have one good nic and what? 3 spare to report and bash with this week?

Thank you for posting that so Fresh Water can see how conniving you are. :beer:


Post my spare nics here, now, and then send them to Freshwater for good measure.

Like I said, I for one certainly hope Freshwater is reading this thread.

jmo

[mylipsaresealed]

Post my spare nics here, now, and then send them to Freshwater for good measure.

Like I said, I for one certainly hope Freshwater is reading this thread.

jmo


Oh don't worry, I have nothing to hide, unlike you.

I also hope Freshwater is reading so she can see how you explained how easy it is for you to have your multiple nics. Funny, most of us use the same nic on every computer we use. Strange you would justify your use of multiple nics in this manner. You do realize that you explained to us all that are reading how you did this right?

But carry on, keep posting how you hope Fresh Water is reading, try and make yourself look like the victim again. It's not much fun being outed as the two faced poster you are is it?

:read:

[sweetcharlotte]

Anybody that knows anything about computers would know what I said. Do you know what an IP is?

In the meantime, I'm waiting for you to out all of my multiple nics. Anytime now - I'm ready.


jmo

[Outlander]

I'm far too old to be jealous of a line of greenies, but I'll never be too old quit standing up for what is right.

JMO

Then I'd have to wonder why you posted a negative rep to me BECAUSE of my "greenies"? What purpose would that have been for then?

[mylipsaresealed]

Anybody that knows anything about computers would know what I said. Do you know what an IP is?

In the meantime, I'm waiting for you to out all of my multiple nics. Anytime now - I'm ready.


jmo


And anyone that posts on a message board knows that you DON'T create nics all over the place unless you have something to hide.

Very telling! Bet you are kicking yourself for explaining that one. lol

Just be yourself, it's all coming out! :beer:

[sweetcharlotte]

It certainly wasn't jealousy, but it did let you know that I didn't appreciate the two negative feedbacks you had previously given me for my OPINION, and that no one is fooled about how you got your greenies.


jmo

[sweetcharlotte]

And anyone that posts on a message board knows that you DON'T create nics all over the place unless you have something to hide.

Very telling! Bet you are kicking yourself for explaining that one. lol

Just be yourself, it's all coming out! :beer:


As Anna once said, "Bring it on."

Waiting..........

[Outlander]

Thank you for the kind words!

It has been a pleasure posting with you as well. I have respect for you and so many that have posted with me. Even many that didn't view things my way. It is all about respect and honesty.

I'm truly sorry to upset anyone, it is just time to be honest about the charade that this poster has been putting on.

:patriot:

Lips, you are a wonderful, kind poster and I'd hate to see you go :( I admire your honestly and your courage. {{{HUGS}}}

[Outlander]

It certainly wasn't jealousy, but it did let you know that I didn't appreciate the two negative feedbacks you had previously given me for my OPINION, and that no one is fooled about how you got your greenies.


jmo

I am going to assume this post was in response to mine. If you know how I got greenies, please, do tell. And if you were given negative feedback, I am sure it was because of the tone or manner in which your opinion was posted. You are free to report such things to FW just like the rest of us are. To attack me was childish and inappropriate. And thank you for admitting what you did.

MOO

[sweetcharlotte]

To attack any poster because their opinion is different from yours is also childish and inappropriate.

jmo

[sweetcharlotte]

There, another example of the word twisting, yes I admit I disagreed with your post, but it was the sarcastic, rude manner, than as we all know, you run to FW or CW and report people type of posts I agree with. Probably with all the nics you have made up. I didn't know people had different nics all over the place. I thought that one should be enough, but I guess when you used them to make yourself look good, you would know all about that.

I have always been respectful of people who have different opinions. That's great!! But not people who talk out of both sides of their mouth. You are great at that. Everyone knows it.

Now go whine, use all your nics. It's a shame you are being outed for what you are isn't it?

:punch:

These are wonderful and kinds remarks? Accusations of multiple nics and running to Freshwater/CW? Accusations that she can't/won't back up with proof.


JMO

[Outlander]

To attack any poster because their opinion is different from yours is also childish and inappropriate.

jmo

I have not attacked you, so please stop trying to deflect from what you have done to a group of people here. It was wrong.

MOO

[chambord]

I am going to assume this post was in response to mine. If you know how I got greenies, please, do tell. And if you were given negative feedback, I am sure it was because of the tone or manner in which your opinion was posted. You are free to report such things to FW just like the rest of us are. To attack me was childish and inappropriate. And thank you for admitting what you did.

MOO

It ain't easy being mean and green. :D

Takes a lot of effort.

[sweetcharlotte]

Desperate times call for desperate measures.

ETA - I appreciate all of the back and forth. I think this has probably given anyone who is interested food for thought about what happened here.

With that I bid you a farewell.


IMO

[Outlander]

Desperate times call for desperate measures.


IMO

Why in the world would anyone feel desperate over a message board? So much so that they would go out of their way to hurt others that they don't even know? It amazes me.

MOO

[rachelslaw]

My personal opinion is it should be the post and not the poster that gets attacked - that simply dont happen tho and the other thing is too much is getting brought over from ctv which isnt right either jmo

I completely agree with you. The reputation feature should apply to the post and not the poster. A poster given a bad rep for a particular reason should be able to see on their post exactly what the problem was. It should not be used for just a general personal attack as some here have done. It's a shame that some have abused it so much that it has now become an issue.

IMO

[mylipsaresealed]

These are wonderful and kinds remarks? Accusations of multiple nics and running to Freshwater/CW? Accusations that she can't/won't back up with proof.


JMO

Truth hurts doesn't it?

Why are you so worried about it? If it wasn't true you would know you have nothing to worry about, you protest too much, which speaks volumes.

Oh and the remarks, they pale to the babies you left people. I am not protending anything, as you are doing.

You have proven me right already today. :seeya:

[chambord]

Why in the world would anyone feel desperate over a message board? So much so that they would go out of their way to hurt others that they don't even know? It amazes me.

MOO

Man, that comment knocked my socks off.

[WhiteOleander]

It ain't easy being mean and green. :D

Takes a lot of effort.



for some mean just comes naturally. IMO

[mylipsaresealed]

for some mean just comes naturally. IMO

Shammie? :eek:

[WhiteOleander]

Shammie? :eek:

nut case? why would you accuse me of being some one else?

[Outlander]

Man, that comment knocked my socks off.

Let's hope that FW feels the same.

[mylipsaresealed]

nut case? why would you accuse me of being some one else?

:lol:

It is you Shammie~! :D

[rachelslaw]

for some mean just comes naturally. IMO


Sadly you are right. Some people are so jealous and desperate that this naturally makes them mean and spiteful. It's the way that some people live their whole lives. I do feel sorry for those types of people.

:rose:

IMO

[sweetcharlotte]

Shammie? :eek:


This is another great example of what has been happening. This person made a comment that you didn't agree with so you immediately attacked by accusing them of being someone they aren't. Perfect example! Perfect!

JMO

[mylipsaresealed]

This is another great example of what has been happening. This person made a comment that you didn't agree with so you immediately attacked by accusing them of being someone they aren't. Perfect example! Perfect!

JMO

Awe, you changed back!! Very good !! You were quick that time! :beer:

[sweetcharlotte]

Sadly you are right. Some people are so jealous and desperate that this naturally makes them mean and spiteful. It's the way that some people live their whole lives. I do feel sorry for those types of people.

:rose:

IMO

I'm neither jealous or desperate, but I do believe in standing up for myself and I will not back down from gang mentality. Save your rose for someone who needs it.

jmo

[sweetcharlotte]

Awe, you changed back!! Very good !! You were quick that time! :beer:

Be brave. Take your accusation to Freshwater.

[Outlander]

I'm neither jealous or desperate, but I do believe in standing up for myself and I will not back down from gang mentality. Save your rose for someone who needs it.

jmo

Your last sentence is probably what got you negative reps to begin with. Perfect example!

MOO

[WhiteOleander]

Awe, you changed back!! Very good !! You were quick that time! :beer:
might want to put the mug down, it is impairing your thinking

[SweatPea]

The problem i have with that is when i know some people are trying to cause trouble for there own purposes. As ive said more than once..Fw should be left to sort any problems...he is the moderator and not us jmo

That is funny you would write that. Since you have made accusations about people that are not true. You have caused problems for your own purposes. You have got people banned from other forums based on lies. Pathetic really.

Kazzer, you said I was a spy and that that I was telling people on this board stuff that was going on over at the other forum. Prove it. Not one person from this forum could ever say that I gave them any information. No one has proof because it was never true.

Do not sit in here and act all high and mighty like you are someone that does the right thing. You need to grow up and stop playing little girl games.

I hope people soon realize the truth about you. Good luck Kazzer, you are going to need it.

JMO

[mylipsaresealed]

Be brave. Take your accusation to Freshwater.

Now why would running to the moderator make me brave? I don't get that? :shrug:

[sweetcharlotte]

Your last sentence is probably what got you negative reps to begin with. Perfect example!

MOO

My comment was straight-forward and perhaps without tact, but it wasn't an underhanded, not-so-subtle attempt to put someone down.

jmo

[mylipsaresealed]

might want to put the mug down, it is impairing your thinking

Shammie....!!!! :seeya:

Change again, I like that trick, quick, I'll time ya....GO!! :lol:

[rachelslaw]

Your last sentence is probably what got you negative reps to begin with. Perfect example!

MOO

Exactly. Not to mention that I was not addressing her post, nor did I name any particular poster either. Sure was quick to jump in though.

;)

IMO

[HowardLovedAnna]

That is funny you would write that. Since you have made accusations about people that are not true. You have caused problems for your own purposes. You have got people banned from other forums based on lies. Pathetic really.

Kazzer, you said I was a spy and that that I was telling people on this board stuff that was going on over at the other forum. Prove it. Not one person from this forum could ever say that I gave them any information. No one has proof because it was never true.

Do not sit in here and act all high and mighty like you are someone that does the right thing. You need to grow up and stop playing little girl games.

I hope people soon realize the truth about you. Good luck Kazzer, you are going to need it.

Sweet...people make there own conclusions about you...but again thats nothing to do with this board jmo

[sweetcharlotte]

Now why would running to the moderator make me brave? I don't get that? :shrug:

Put your money where you mouth is. Give her the proof of my multiple nics, tell her how I've reported people and got them banned (not that that's possible). Back up your accusations. Take care of me and the problems I'm causing here. Go for it.
jmo

[Springflower]

There are definitely a few here who seem to delight in cut downs and trying to get others warned, or banned. I'm not sure what they get from it, but they do it. I think I got my first disapproval the day I started posting here. Not a day goes by that I don't get some insulting or catty reply to some post I made. When I go back and reread, I see nothing that would have set someone off but it seems that there are several who need no reason. Just seeing my nic seems to be enough. This started, as I said, the very first day I posted here.

I like being able to give approvals for especially good posts but the negative feature, to me, is just a pi**ing match. I see no value to it.

[SweatPea]

Sweet...people make there own conclusions about you...but again thats nothing to do with this board jmo

You are the insticator for all of it. I have done nothing, but you got me banned. As a matter of fact YOU BANNED me from the other forum based on something Blaze told you. I don't know Blaze.

It is sooooooooooo pathetic how you are acting. Tell me one thing I ever did? Come on prove it. You are such a liar. You have caused more problems by your lies.

Get over yourself Kazzer.

JMO

[HowardLovedAnna]

You are the insticator for all of it. I have done nothing, but you got me banned. As a matter of fact YOU BANNED me from the other forum based on something Blaze told you. I don't know Blaze.

It is sooooooooooo pathetic how you are acting. Tell me one thing I ever did? Come on prove it. You are such a liar. You have caused more problems by your lies.

Get over yourself Kazzer.

And thats why you get banned from boards im not even on i guess?

You want to talk fine fine PM me..but im not doing the dramatics on this thread sorry.

[SweatPea]

And thats why you get banned from boards im not even on i guess?

You want to talk fine fine PM me..but im not doing the dramatics on this thread sorry.


You were the one of the MOderators over at the other board. AND YES, you banned me for something you said Blaze/Lemons told you about me.

You sit there and defend Howard, but yet you are like everyone else. You blame people without proof, and yes you get them banned.

JMO

[HowardLovedAnna]

You were the one of the MOderators over at the other board. AND YES, you banned me for something you said Blaze/Lemons told you about me.

You sit there and defend Howard, but yet you are like everyone else. You blame people without proof, and yes you get them banned.

JMO

As i said...there is a pm button. Its against TOS to bring things over from other boards.

[SweatPea]

As i said...there is a pm button. Its against TOS to bring things over from other boards.


I was hoping you would be honest about yourself, but that is not going to happen.

JMO, IMO

[HowardLovedAnna]

I was hoping you would be honest about yourself, but that is not going to happen.

JMO, IMO


Perhaps im trying to keep to the TOS jmo

[Bailey Boys]

To attack any poster because their opinion is different from yours is also childish and inappropriate.

jmo

And you would never do such a thing?:rolleyes:

[WhiteOleander]

The village must be empty today.

[Riviera]

Locking thread for Freshwater's review.