Books on this case.

[Invrdv8]

Did you read Anne's book? I didn't think she came across as bitter at all. In fact, I thought she went out of her way to give the Petersons (all of them) the benefit of every doubt. Yes, I would take Anne's word as gospel that she had a wonderful life and was, in fact, greatful that Jackie didn't raise her. But, BITTER????? No way.

I think the book itself is the reason they believe Anne is bitter and it was her way of "getting back". Had she had nothing but praise for the Peterson's and Scott they would have believed every word she wrote. I've always said that Anne is probably thanking her lucky stars that Jackie gave her up. I totally agree she did give them all the benefit of the doubt and it was their own actions that made her see them for who they REALLY were.

[Wearing A Halo]

Let's not put words into my mouth, please.

I did not say children who are given up for adoption are bitter.

I said, it's my opinion that Anne Bird is/was bitter.

And it does not surprise me that you would take this opportunity to turn this into a Jackie bashing session.

How do you know that Anne had a wonderful life? Because she said so? Which only supports what I said - that you take her word as the gospel.

I agree with you on one point - lying about your brother when he is on death row is heinous behavior.

Nope! DRISP murdering his unborn son's mother (Laci) along with his unborn son (Conner) is heinous behavior. Think about it TAI.

[TopGunner]

Nope! DRISP murdering his unborn son's mother (Laci) along with his unborn son (Conner) is heinous behavior. Think about it TAI.

Hey Angel, IMAGINE believing a CONVICTED murderer's crime is heinous! Shame on us <bowing head>. Imagine still believing that Anne Bird wasn't bitter about being adopted, simply because she SAID so! :punch: Evidently we are to believe the OPINION of an angry poster who never met her, ROFLMAO!!!!:patriot:

[cookiewench]

:confused: Let's not put words into my mouth, please.

I did not say children who are given up for adoption are bitter.

I said, it's my opinion that Anne Bird is/was bitter.

And it does not surprise me that you would take this opportunity to turn this into a Jackie bashing session.

How do you know that Anne had a wonderful life? Because she said so? Which only supports what I said - that you take her word as the gospel.

I agree with you on one point - lying about your brother when he is on death row is heinous behavior.

If you claim that Anne is bitter, then what other reason do you give for her bitterness other than the fact that she was given away at birth by her mother, while the "golden child" was kept and coddled?

If she's bitter about her life - well, who put her in that position? The woman who used her Catholic upbringing as an excuse for not using birth control? Why didn't she use that same Catholic upbringing when it came to having sex with virtual strangers?

Although Anne appears to have had wonderful adoptive parents and siblings, I'm not of the opinion that adoption is a wonderful thing - especially when the birth mother intentionally lets herself get pregnant, knowing that she has no intention of raising her child.

If Anne IS bitter, it's because of Jackie's careless actions towards her - both when she gave her away, and when they were reunited. She offered Anne no remorse, no sorrow, no curiousity about how her life had turned out. She never tried to look for Anne, never offered her any information about her birth father, never said she'd thought about and worried about Anne over the years or had any regrets.

I'd be bitter if I were Anne. The only thing Jackie was interested in was what Anne looked like and if she hated mushrooms - and then she went off on her tangent about her golden child, Scott.

Jackie is a lowlife. And her son is a murderer.

[Riviera]

Just a note - other forums here at Crime Library have closed early due to uncivil behavior. Lets not add the Peterson forum to the list.

Thank you
Riviera

[TopGunner]

Just a note - other forums here at Crime Library have closed early due to uncivil behavior. Lets not add the Peterson forum to the list.

Thank you
Riviera

Sorry Rivera. I, for one, would like to be here at midnight on the 31st, so I'll clamp it....ever so gently.

:tongue: :biggrin:

[thinkaboutit]

I thought everyone here - from both sides - would be interested in seeing this Donna Thomas interview. Hope it's okay with admin to post this here - if not - feel free to delete it:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=aRwhomx1bGs

[I'mSun]

I thought everyone here - from both sides - would be interested in seeing this Donna Thomas interview. Hope it's okay with admin to post this here - if not - feel free to delete it:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=aRwhomx1bGsInteresting. Well, not really. But thanks for posting the link, TAI. Have you read the book yet?

[thinkaboutit]

Interesting. Well, not really. But thanks for posting the link, TAI. Have you read the book yet?

You're welcome I'mSun. Haven't read the book yet - but will be sure and post here when I have!!!

[Otter]

In the grocery store today, I noticed the NE had him on the front page. Small pic, off in the corner, his stock is down.

Didn't have a chance to peruse, but here's what's on the site.

In a bombshell death row confession, Scott Peterson has at last revealed how he mercilessly strangled his pregnant wife Laci as she happily watched a Martha Stewart TV show.

Then the coldblooded monster calmly read "Playboy" in his fishing boat before dumping her body overboard, according to a blockbuster new book — previewed exclusively by The ENQUIRER.

As he munched on a turkey sandwich in a San Quentin prison visiting room, Scott made his chilling confession to friend Donna Thomas. "I could actually feel (Laci) die," he told her. "When she stopped fighting, I could feel all her weight on my arm."

Thomas' book – "I'm Sorry I Lied to You: The Confession of Scott Peterson" – finally provides the answers all America has sought since 27-year-old Laci's body washed up in San Francisco Bay in 2003.

The author, a lawyer, visited Scott dozens of times after he was sentenced to death. She was a passionate believer in the notorious fertilizer salesman's innocence – until she caught him in a lie in June 2006.

Then after she confronted him, the 35-year-old killer spilled his guts, Donna told The ENQUIRER in an exclusive interview.

Surprisingly, his motive for murder wasn't to be with mistress Amber Frey!

Pick up the new issue of The ENQUIRER for all the details!

http://www.nationalenquirer.com/scott_peterson_book_confesses/crime/63423

Oh brother. :rolleyes: Previewed exclusively .. interviewed exclusively. My, my, but the turkey sandwich is a nice touch. Don't remember SQV saying that was on the visiting room vending machine menu, but I could be wrong.

[I'mSun]

Here we go again folks. Very similiar to last time.
I went to Amazon to see if the book was shipping. This is what Amazon says:
Availability: Currently unavailable. We don't know when or if this item will be back in stock.

[Otter]

Here we go again folks. Very similiar to last time.
I went to Amazon to see if the book was shipping. This is what Amazon says:
Availability: Currently unavailable. We don't know when or if this item will be back in stock.

Sure hope no one paid money up front. :D Maybe the NE would lend their "exclusive" copy.

Oh well, it was entertaining chat about a nobody trying to be a somebody by association with a wife/baby killer which isn't even known if one work she said is true. I don't need her to convince me of his guilt. He did it himself. MOO of course.

I wonder if I could copy this forum and sell it? I know for sure I could self-publish it!

[I'mSun]

I think you forgot to mention the prize in the Cracker Jack box FD, ROF!!!

:DTG, she is no prize! I think he forgot to mention how Donna Thomas resembles Gnarlene. At least, I think she does. Perhaps they are sisters or cousins??

[deputydi]

I thought everyone here - from both sides - would be interested in seeing this Donna Thomas interview. Hope it's okay with admin to post this here - if not - feel free to delete it:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=aRwhomx1bGs
Maybe it's just me, but I thought she came across as a little spooky. She said she "worked on other high profile cases" namely Scott Peterson. What work did she do other than write a book most of us consider a work of fiction?

[TopGunner]

Maybe it's just me, but I thought she came across as a little spooky. She said she "worked on other high profile cases" namely Scott Peterson. What work did she do other than write a book most of us consider a work of fiction?

Nope, not you at all Di. She spooked me too, LOL...

I don't know, intentional or not, the whole thing has been so shady, it's hard tell what's really going on. I'm sure the truth will come out eventually.

[Buckethead]

Maybe it's just me, but I thought she came across as a little spooky. She said she "worked on other high profile cases" namely Scott Peterson. What work did she do other than write a book most of us consider a work of fiction?

Nope, it's not just you depdi, she creeped me out too.
:eek:

[frydaddy]

First of all, the video regarding Mr. Boham was the most pointless pieces of trash I've ever seen? Not a single question about guilt or his confession, just making him out to be a tolerant, non-violent murderer.

Second, what's wrong with the way she talks? It's kind of a moan/whine valley girl thing.

Most important...she claims that Scott was convicted by unfair portrayals and innacuracies in the media, then writes a book with an unsubstantiated confession. How bizarre!

[frydaddy]

Upon reflection, any more discussion of Donna Thomas, as it relates to anything, is a complete waste of time. Thus, my three favorite and most important books on the case, in no particular order, are...

For Laci (For insight into Laci and her family, Sharon was a touch of class)
A Deadly Game (for details on Scott's crime and prosecution)
Blood Brother (for insight into the Peterson's)

I didn't read Amber's book, and Ablow went way over the level I was willing to consider this case. We, The Jury was nothing new. I didn't read Loretta's book. And Dalton's book might as well have been made of Charmin, given the content in it. Although who would buy already used bathroom tissue, if they knew in advance that is what they were buying? <--- BTW...don't answer that! :D

[TopGunner]

Upon reflection, any more discussion of Donna Thomas, as it relates to anything, is a complete waste of time. Thus, my three favorite and most important books on the case, in no particular order, are...

For Laci (For insight into Laci and her family, Sharon was a touch of class)
A Deadly Game (for details on Scott's crime and prosecution)
Blood Brother (for insight into the Peterson's)

I didn't read Amber's book, and Ablow went way over the level I was willing to consider this case. We, The Jury was nothing new. I didn't read Loretta's book. And Dalton's book might as well have been made of Charmin, given the content in it. Although who would buy already used bathroom tissue, if they knew in advance that is what they were buying? <--- BTW...don't answer that! :D

****!!!! FD, I repeat, SO GOOD to have you back!
:patriot:

[Lavindar]

Let's not put words into my mouth, please.

I did not say children who are given up for adoption are bitter.

I said, it's my opinion that Anne Bird is/was bitter.

And it does not surprise me that you would take this opportunity to turn this into a Jackie bashing session.

How do you know that Anne had a wonderful life? Because she said so? Which only supports what I said - that you take her word as the gospel.

I agree with you on one point - lying about your brother when he is on death row is heinous behavior.


And, please enlighten me. HOW did Anne Bird lie about her brother when he was on death row? By telling the truth? You are a more cynical person than anyone I know. Anne Bird's demeanor has never suggested anything but honesty in all her interviews. Can you say the same about the woman who claimed to survive on hot dogs during her entire pregnancy???????? Or about the woman who went to the wrong bank to withdraw money for her criminal son??????????????

[Lavindar]

Maybe it's just me, but I thought she came across as a little spooky. She said she "worked on other high profile cases" namely Scott Peterson. What work did she do other than write a book most of us consider a work of fiction?


She creeped me out also. Doesn't interview well and her eye movements suggest that she is lying. Although it was difficult to even see her eyes with all that makeup on.

So, she's defending a porn star murderer and that's all she claims. Not a lot of research there.

[Lavindar]

In the grocery store today, I noticed the NE had him on the front page. Small pic, off in the corner, his stock is down.

Didn't have a chance to peruse, but here's what's on the site.

In a bombshell death row confession, Scott Peterson has at last revealed how he mercilessly strangled his pregnant wife Laci as she happily watched a Martha Stewart TV show.

Then the coldblooded monster calmly read "Playboy" in his fishing boat before dumping her body overboard, according to a blockbuster new book — previewed exclusively by The ENQUIRER.

As he munched on a turkey sandwich in a San Quentin prison visiting room, Scott made his chilling confession to friend Donna Thomas. "I could actually feel (Laci) die," he told her. "When she stopped fighting, I could feel all her weight on my arm."

Thomas' book – "I'm Sorry I Lied to You: The Confession of Scott Peterson" – finally provides the answers all America has sought since 27-year-old Laci's body washed up in San Francisco Bay in 2003.

The author, a lawyer, visited Scott dozens of times after he was sentenced to death. She was a passionate believer in the notorious fertilizer salesman's innocence – until she caught him in a lie in June 2006.

Then after she confronted him, the 35-year-old killer spilled his guts, Donna told The ENQUIRER in an exclusive interview.

Surprisingly, his motive for murder wasn't to be with mistress Amber Frey!

Pick up the new issue of The ENQUIRER for all the details!

http://www.nationalenquirer.com/scott_peterson_book_confesses/crime/63423

Oh brother. :rolleyes: Previewed exclusively .. interviewed exclusively. My, my, but the turkey sandwich is a nice touch. Don't remember SQV saying that was on the visiting room vending machine menu, but I could be wrong.

Psst - prisoners don't have any cash on them. Guess Donna bought the sandwich and gave it to him (but most things have to be scrutinized by the guards before given to a prisoner.

[frydaddy]

****!!!! FD, I repeat, SO GOOD to have you back!
:patriot:

Thank you for saying that TG, I truly appreciate it! ;)

[thinkaboutit]

And, please enlighten me. HOW did Anne Bird lie about her brother when he was on death row? By telling the truth? You are a more cynical person than anyone I know. Anne Bird's demeanor has never suggested anything but honesty in all her interviews. Can you say the same about the woman who claimed to survive on hot dogs during her entire pregnancy???????? Or about the woman who went to the wrong bank to withdraw money for her criminal son??????????????

I'm a cynical person? Give me a break.

It is my opinion that Anne Bird's insinuation that the Petersons referred to Scott as "the Golden Boy" all of his life is a flat out lie.

And considering it appears Anne Bird was Ablow's main source for his book, in my opinion, I doubt it is a coincidence that Ablow wrote a fictional book, two years before Laci disappeared, about a young man who he refers to as "the Golden Boy" who kills his baby sister. Check it out - it's called "Psychopath".

You call me cynical - yet you doubt that a woman could survive on hot dogs during a pregnancy? Or that a woman with health problems and under serious stress might go to the wrong bank?

Bottom line, in my opinion, what Anne Bird did was wrong. Guilty or not - I would not write a book about my brother like she did. I would never sink that low.

[TopGunner]

I'm a cynical person? Give me a break.

It is my opinion that Anne Bird's insinuation that the Petersons referred to Scott as "the Golden Boy" all of his life is a flat out lie.

And considering it appears Anne Bird was Ablow's main source for his book, in my opinion, I doubt it is a coincidence that Ablow wrote a fictional book, two years before Laci disappeared, about a young man who he refers to as "the Golden Boy" who kills his baby sister. Check it out - it's called "Psychopath".

You call me cynical - yet you doubt that a woman could survive on hot dogs during a pregnancy? Or that a woman with health problems and under serious stress might go to the wrong bank?

Bottom line, in my opinion, what Anne Bird did was wrong. Guilty or not - I would not write a book about my brother like she did. I would never sink that low.

IMO, you have sunk much lower.
:patriot:

[I'mSun]

I'm a cynical person? Give me a break.
*snip*
Guilty or not - I would not write a book about my brother like she did. I would never sink that low.
Sure you could, in fact you just did. Think about it.

[Buckethead]

IMO, you have sunk much lower.
:patriot:

Are you surprised?

Bashing the victims, the Rocha's, Anne Bird, LE, the judge, the jury, and any/everyone involved in the trial, is routine for 99% of the NG's, IMO.

ABS (anyone but Scott)

:seeya:

[frydaddy]

I'm a cynical person? Give me a break.

It is my opinion that Anne Bird's insinuation that the Petersons referred to Scott as "the Golden Boy" all of his life is a flat out lie.

And considering it appears Anne Bird was Ablow's main source for his book, in my opinion, I doubt it is a coincidence that Ablow wrote a fictional book, two years before Laci disappeared, about a young man who he refers to as "the Golden Boy" who kills his baby sister. Check it out - it's called "Psychopath".

You call me cynical - yet you doubt that a woman could survive on hot dogs during a pregnancy? Or that a woman with health problems and under serious stress might go to the wrong bank?

Bottom line, in my opinion, what Anne Bird did was wrong. Guilty or not - I would not write a book about my brother like she did. I would never sink that low.

In my opinion, you are absolutely cynical of everything that doesn't support Scott. So much so, that you go on these rants about Anne to strike a chord, then remain blindly loyal to Jackie.

Your opinion is that Anne is a liar and betrayed her brother. Obviously, that's your sour grapes because we saw your Scott and your Petersons for who they were. We're to believe your opinion over her personal observations? Yeah, right!

As for the babble about Ablow and Anne Bird, wow, are you reaching for something here or what? Love to see your flowchart of logic on that.

[Wearing A Halo]

I'm a cynical person? Give me a break.

It is my opinion that Anne Bird's insinuation that the Petersons referred to Scott as "the Golden Boy" all of his life is a flat out lie.

And considering it appears Anne Bird was Ablow's main source for his book, in my opinion, I doubt it is a coincidence that Ablow wrote a fictional book, two years before Laci disappeared, about a young man who he refers to as "the Golden Boy" who kills his baby sister. Check it out - it's called "Psychopath".

You call me cynical - yet you doubt that a woman could survive on hot dogs during a pregnancy? Or that a woman with health problems and under serious stress might go to the wrong bank?

Bottom line, in my opinion, what Anne Bird did was wrong. Guilty or not - I would not write a book about my brother like she did. I would never sink that low.

Well then TAI, just how low would you sink? It sure doesn't bother you that DRISP sunk Laci along with Conner, does it?

[cookiewench]

I'm a cynical person? Give me a break.

It is my opinion that Anne Bird's insinuation that the Petersons referred to Scott as "the Golden Boy" all of his life is a flat out lie.

And considering it appears Anne Bird was Ablow's main source for his book, in my opinion, I doubt it is a coincidence that Ablow wrote a fictional book, two years before Laci disappeared, about a young man who he refers to as "the Golden Boy" who kills his baby sister. Check it out - it's called "Psychopath".

You call me cynical - yet you doubt that a woman could survive on hot dogs during a pregnancy? Or that a woman with health problems and under serious stress might go to the wrong bank?

Bottom line, in my opinion, what Anne Bird did was wrong. Guilty or not - I would not write a book about my brother like she did. I would never sink that low.


Being a cynic is not an excuse to stretch the truth - ever.

That "golden boy" stuff was out in the public well before Scott's arrest, Scott's conviction, before Anne had spoken to ANYONE about Scott, before Anne thought Scott was guilty, and well before Anne would have met Dr. Ablow.

In fact, I'd like to see your source for Anne being the main contributor of Peterson lure that was used in Ablow's book. Anne would have no way of knowing about Lee's history of outbursts or use of medications, etc.

I don't doubt that a person could survive on hot dogs for a period of time, but Jackie's story about "the wrong bank" was a flat-out lie.

This is all stuff that you know and I know and we all know and that was talked about on your own board before Anne Bird had spoken to anyone.

Sink low? You wouldn't do that to your own brother, even if he was guilty of murdering two innocent victims?

How low was it for you to inject yourself into this case and declare Laci's family, friends, the hard-working LE members, any everyone else either LIARS or victims of "false memory" because what they KNEW didn't fit your agenda?

[I'mSun]

Well then TAI, just how low would you sink? It sure doesn't bother you that DRISP sunk Laci along with Conner, does it?ITA Angel! It just doesn't seem to bother her at all.

[adnoid]

...Love to see your flowchart of logic on that.

I'd rather not.

[Lavindar]

[[/I]I'm a cynical person? Give me a break.

It is my opinion that Anne Bird's insinuation that the Petersons referred to Scott as "the Golden Boy" all of his life is a flat out lie.

And considering it appears Anne Bird was Ablow's main source for his book, in my opinion, I doubt it is a coincidence that Ablow wrote a fictional book, two years before Laci disappeared, about a young man who he refers to as "the Golden Boy" who kills his baby sister. Check it out - it's called "Psychopath".

You call me cynical - yet you doubt that a woman could survive on hot dogs during a pregnancy? Or that a woman with health problems and under serious stress might go to the wrong bank?

Bottom line, in my opinion, what Anne Bird did was wrong. Guilty or not - I would not write a book about my brother like she did. I would never sink that low.

I think you need to reread the credits in Ablow's book. He gives credit to Peterson family members, and friends of Jackie's (who remain anonymous to avoid her well-known wrath). By the way, Anne is NOT a Peterson family member.

[frydaddy]

I'd rather not.

LMAO - At the time, I was in need of some comic relief. Fortunately, you assisted and I have no uneasy afterthoughts! :beer:

[frydaddy]

[[/I]

I think you need to reread the credits in Ablow's book. He gives credit to Peterson family members, and friends of Jackie's (who remain anonymous to avoid her well-known wrath). By the way, Anne is NOT a Peterson family member.

Those darn details...always getting in the way of a pointless and irrational rant!

[Otter]

Those darn details...always getting in the way of a pointless and irrational rant!

You're absolutely right FD! Details also seem to muddy up the thinking processes of people who can't understand so many things that transpired in this tragedy. I'm still trying to comprehend the size and scope and incredible organization of the conspiracy against the fertilizer salesman. If some could just open their eyes and see that he put himself on death row.

Only him. He did it, he talked and talked, and reasonable people did not buy the BS.

Oh my, you'd almost be led to believe that Modesto was like living in Nazi Germany*. Now, that was a pointless and irrational rant by Mrs. Peterson. But that's just MOO.


* Jackie Peterson, link to the site of choice for the SII crowd, edited BTW. http://www.scottisinnocent.com/Media/articles/innocent.htm

[adnoid]

Those darn details...always getting in the way of a pointless and irrational rant!

"I've made up my mind, don't confuse me with facts."

[frydaddy]

You're absolutely right FD! Details also seem to muddy up the thinking processes of people who can't understand so many things that transpired in this tragedy. I'm still trying to comprehend the size and scope and incredible organization of the conspiracy against the fertilizer salesman. If some could just open their eyes and see that he put himself on death row.

Only him. He did it, he talked and talked, and reasonable people did not buy the BS.

Oh my, you'd almost be led to believe that Modesto was like living in Nazi Germany*. Now, that was a pointless and irrational rant by Mrs. Peterson. But that's just MOO.


* Jackie Peterson, link to the site of choice for the SII crowd, edited BTW. http://www.scottisinnocent.com/Media/articles/innocent.htm

You know, it's actually pretty interesting to go back and read the media interviews, quotes, and testimony from Jackie. It's definitely obvious where Scott got his habit of using big, but unecessary words and incoherent thoughts.

"...irreversible"...huh?

"...they were like a family, Laci and Conner and Scott"...what?

"...Nazi Germany or the Soviet Union"...are you kidding me?

"...unapproachable"...oh, it's too much!

[Wearing A Halo]

You know, it's actually pretty interesting to go back and read the media interviews, quotes, and testimony from Jackie. It's definitely obvious where Scott got his habit of using big, but unecessary words and incoherent thoughts.

"...irreversible"...huh?

"...they were like a family, Laci and Conner and Scott"...what?

"...Nazi Germany or the Soviet Union"...are you kidding me?

"...unapproachable"...oh, it's too much!

"How (in)convenient that the bodies show up."

"This will kill me."

"If you execute, it will be as if Laci and Conner never existed."

[frydaddy]

"How (in)convenient that the bodies show up."

"This will kill me."

"If you execute, it will be as if Laci and Conner never existed."

That last one is quite disturbing, isn't it?

[Lavindar]

You know, it's actually pretty interesting to go back and read the media interviews, quotes, and testimony from Jackie. It's definitely obvious where Scott got his habit of using big, but unecessary words and incoherent thoughts.

"...irreversible"...huh?

"...they were like a family, Laci and Conner and Scott"...what?

"...Nazi Germany or the Soviet Union"...are you kidding me?

"...unapproachable"...oh, it's too much!
\
My personal favorite is how they were a
""Brady Bunch" family. When I watched the Brady Bunch, the mom brought 3 kids to the family; the dad brought 3. Jack, in reality brought ONE (John) and never told Lee about the two she gave up. Lee had three children WHO LIVED WITH THEIR MOTHER. So anyway you slice it, it was NOT a Brady Bunch family.