Goldmans Sue

[2L8 4A D8]

really? wonder how her lingerie got in the washing machine with orenthal's sweat suit? Paula was the one who said Arnelle called and called to get her to come cheer up good, ole dad. My guess is that they needed her (Paula) to make an appearance so that orenthal and defenders could put out the story that they did: orenthal had moved on and was involved with Paula. We know now that that was all a lie. Go figure.

Yeah, it's just amazing and very sad isn't it how these NG's just grasp and hold on to anything re: Arnelle and her good, ole Dad! Yes, it was a lie, and I posted about it many, many months ago stating that Paula was "Just playing the Game," but the NG's will never admit it! So Sad Indeed! All IMO!

[2L8 4A D8]

WEEZER

<snipped>

I think Paula, undrerstanding that Nicole was out of the picture , booked the first flight from Los Vegas to LA she could get.
martin II

What an absolutely disgusting and despicable thing to say, but I will just consider the source. It's amazing to me that even your NG comrades post to you, which says a lot about the whole mess of 'ya! All IMO! :flamemad:

[martin II]

*Snip*

you continue to make me laugh -- I'm vicious for saying Arnelle looks awful and that's bad BUT you can trash the victims and that's okay?

Can't say there aren't any women here who look like that but I was simply describing how Arnelle looks in the pic. And you're making me laugh again -- I

weezer

I can not help it if you think that Oj , Arnell JC and all the defense council should have their history attacked by you but the victime past history shoud not be examined.

Otherwise i assume you are in a position to determine what is good looks and what is bad.

THAT is what makes me half laugh at your comments and does show a possibility of jealousy on your part towards Arnell Simpson.
martin II

[2L8 4A D8]

*Snip*

you continue to make me laugh -- I'm vicious for saying Arnelle looks awful and that's bad BUT you can trash the victims and that's okay?

Can't say there aren't any women here who look like that but I was simply describing how Arnelle looks in the pic. And you're making me laugh again -- I

Yeah, Arnelle is HIS woman, so don't be saying anything BAD about HIS woman! She is like sooooooo gorgeous ~ NOT! Where is the puke icon? Gag me with a spoon, barf!

Yeah, that's his double standard. It is okay for him to say that MF is a forked and split tongue racist snake, that Fred Goldman is a tin cup just because he wants what is due him, that Nicole was a w***e, prostitute-lover and drug addict, that Ron Goldman was a drug dealer and drug addict, that Parks was a marijuana smoking Momma's boy, that Diva is a tattletale cop wannabe, riding shotgun terrorizing neighborhoods and that I am a "strawberry" crack w***e! Did I forget anything? :flamemad:

JMO and MOO!!

[weezer]

*Snip*Otherwise i assume you are in a position to determine what is good looks and what is bad.

THAT is what makes me half laugh at your comments and does show a possibility of jealousy on your part towards Arnell Simpson.

Glad I brought some humor to your day. The fact remains that Arnelle looks like cr@p in that picture. Trust me, there's no jealousy on my part toward Arnelle. In fact, I've often thought how awful it must be to realize you are capable of doing what I believe she did.

[martin II]

*Snip*

Glad I brought some humor to your day. The fact remains that Arnelle looks like cr@p in that picture. Trust me, there's no jealousy on my part toward Arnelle. In fact, I've often thought how awful it must be to realize you are capable of doing what I believe she did.

WEEZER

I have the required humor in my life without ever reading your post. Your regular attacks on her and now your negative comments about her physical looks, Sound like jealousy to me. Who knows what the motivation is.
martin II

[martin II]

*Snip*

well, looks like what you think and your 'undrerstanding' is wrong. Paula wrote that Arnelle called her and begged her to come visit daddy. As far as I know, that fact has never been disputed by any of the simpsons.

weezer
Sorry to inform you but Paula was a grown woman. she made her own decisions. She made a bee line to oj in jail because she wanted to, not because of some phone call Arnell may have made. She made daily visits while he was jailed which in my mind proves that her 6/12 phone call to oj was nothing but another one of her temper tantrums.

[weezer]

weezer
Sorry to inform you but Paula was a grown woman. she made her own decisions. She made a bee line to oj in jail because she wanted to, not because of some phone call Arnell may have made. She made daily visits while he was jailed which in my mind proves that her 6/12 phone call to oj was nothing but another one of her temper tantrums.

Can't argue with you about Paula being a grown woman who made her own decisions. However, the facts are that arnelle did call and talk to her about daddy being depressed and wanting to see her. We know from reading her civil trial deposition that she closed ranks with the other orenthal enablers. I don't know about the temper tantrum. Paula said in her testimony that she and orenthal had only gotten back together just prior (weeks) before the murders. I get the impression that orenthal is one of those insecure men who can't be without a woman.

[martin II]

[QUOTE=fbgweezer;8838108]Can't argue with you about Paula being a grown woman who made her own decisions. However, the facts are that arnelle did call and talk to her about daddy being depressed and wanting to see her. We know from reading her civil trial deposition that she closed ranks with the other orenthal enablers. I don't know about the temper tantrum. Paula said in her testimony that she and orenthal had only gotten back together just prior (weeks) before the murders. I get the impression that orenthal is one of those insecure men who can't be without a woman.[/QUOTE

weezer

Faye testified to a long list of men Nicole dated. You think she was one of those insecure women that could not be without a man?

martin II

[weezer]

[QUOTE=fbgweezer;8838108]Can't argue with you about Paula being a grown woman who made her own decisions. However, the facts are that arnelle did call and talk to her about daddy being depressed and wanting to see her. We know from reading her civil trial deposition that she closed ranks with the other orenthal enablers. I don't know about the temper tantrum. Paula said in her testimony that she and orenthal had only gotten back together just prior (weeks) before the murders. I get the impression that orenthal is one of those insecure men who can't be without a woman.[/QUOTE

weezer

Faye testified to a long list of men Nicole dated. You think she was one of those insecure women that could not be without a man?

martin II

felt like the victim needed to be bashed did ya? Well, I wasn't discussing Nicole -- I was talking about orenthal. The studies I've read on abusers talk about the fact that they are usually insecure. If you look at orenthal's life, you see that even married, he had to wh*re around. That on the day he was dissed by Nicole and dumped by Paula, he immediately started calling women hoping to hook up. I'm not a doctor, I was simply applying what I've read -- trying to understand what drives a man to butcher two human beings.

[martin II]

[QUOTE=martin II;8838167]

felt like the victim needed to be bashed did ya? Well, I wasn't discussing Nicole -- I was talking about orenthal. The studies I've read on abusers talk about the fact that they are usually insecure. If you look at orenthal's life, you see that even married, he had to wh*re around. That on the day he was dissed by Nicole and dumped by Paula, he immediately started calling women hoping to hook up. I'm not a doctor, I was simply applying what I've read -- trying to understand what drives a man to butcher two human beings.

Weezer

Faye testified that Nicole had a very long list of men she dated. Some were one nighters that they picked up in various bars around LA. You seem to know a lot about oj's behavior and have developed strong opinion about him. How would you charaterize nicole, based on her behavior.

martin II

[socaldiva]

[QUOTE=fbgweezer;8838176]

Weezer

Faye testified that Nicole had a very long list of men she dated. Some were one nighters that they picked up in various bars around LA. You seem to know a lot about oj's behavior and have developed strong opinion about him. How would you charaterize nicole, based on her behavior.

martin II

It's odd that you pick & choose what you want from what Faye has said. You never seem to mention any of the horrible things she had to say about your darling OJ :rolleyes:

WTH does sexual habits have to do with murder? Nothing, just another pathetic attempt by you to sully the murder victims.

[Suzee10]

sadly, you have proved over and over again that you have not. You erroneously believe that orenthal must be innocent because he's black. You have blamed Nicole for orenthal's abuse of her. You have trashed Nicole's and Ron's reputations while you continue to excuse orenthal's outrageous and hideous behavior. You've disparaged Mr.Goldman because he believes orenthal butched his son and got away with it and wants to extract some justice some way.

maybe someday, when you're through being the victim, you'll look beyond you're own little disturbed world.

Very good post!!!

[2L8 4A D8]

It's odd that you pick & choose what you want from what Faye has said. You never seem to mention any of the horrible things she had to say about your darling OJ :rolleyes:

WTH does sexual habits have to do with murder? Nothing, just another pathetic attempt by you to sully the murder victims.

:beer: Excellent Post Diva! I am getting so sick of his ugly, filthy, racist, despicable and disgusting cr@p. I find his constant sullying of the murder victims, especially Nicole to be insulting, which is an infraction point and I am going to report him. I am sick and tired of this POS. He needs to be scorned on this Board and these Threads! :punch:

JMO and MOO!!

[martin II]

weezer

I speak to Freds behavior because initially and for some time he was on national tv seeking support for his position from the general population saying his persuit of OJ was NOT ABOUT money but about making Oj suffer for what fred thinks oj did and because oj was NOT found guilty in the criminal trial.

This was his position after both trials when oj refused to pay. When the "If I did it book" came out his position was that the book was nothing short of garbage and he circuled petitions in the public against the book and pressured H C /FOX to cancel the book as he did not think the public should be exposed to oj's lies.
This was when it appeared that oj would make money from the book.

Fred then went to court to get the rights to the book for HIMSELF.
Note: The browns who lost nicole, were left out of freds action by fred.
Fred was after the money.

I think it was a Newsweek reporter that ask him if he could explain his sudden change of heart about taking what he has described as BLOOD MONEY. He went on another rant about taking all the pennies in the world from OJ and that he would like to see Oj homeless.
Which was not a answer to the reporters quesiton.

Some people were dissapointed since their previous support for him was based on some higher moral issue. Now it is evident that it was always about money, with blood or without.

martinn II

[weezer]

weezer

I speak to Freds behavior because initially and for some time he was on national tv seeking support for his position from the general population saying his persuit of OJ was NOT ABOUT money but about making Oj suffer for what fred thinks oj did and because oj was NOT found guilty in the criminal trial.

This was his position after both trials when oj refused to pay. When the "If I did it book" came out his position was that the book was nothing short of garbage and he circuled petitions in the public against the book and pressured H C /FOX to cancel the book as he did not think the public should be exposed to oj's lies.
This was when it appeared that oj would make money from the book.

Fred then went to court to get the rights to the book for HIMSELF.
Note: The browns who lost nicole, were left out of freds action by fred.
Fred was after the money.

I think it was a Newsweek reporter that ask him if he could explain his sudden change of heart about taking what he has described as BLOOD MONEY. He went on another rant about taking all the pennies in the world from OJ and that he would like to see Oj homeless.
Which was not a answer to the reporters quesiton.

Some people were dissapointed since their previous support for him was based on some higher moral issue. Now it is evident that it was always about money, with blood or without.

martinn II

Fred Goldman continues to do what he said he would: make orenthal pay monetarily for what the criminal jury failed to do. I personally have not heard/read anyone say they are disappointed in Mr. Goldman for any of the actions he has taken. If you examine orenthal's life/statements, there were only two things that were important to him: his celebrity status and 'stuff/money.' orenthal was responsible for the demise of his status and Mr. Goldman continues to pursue the 'stuff/money.'

I'm not exactly sure why you feel that any actions the Goldmans take should include the Browns.

[martin II]

Fred Goldman continues to do what he said he would: make orenthal pay monetarily for what the criminal jury failed to do. I personally have not heard/read anyone say they are disappointed in Mr. Goldman for any of the actions he has taken. If you examine orenthal's life/statements, there were only two things that were important to him: his celebrity status and 'stuff/money.' orenthal was responsible for the demise of his status and Mr. Goldman continues to pursue the 'stuff/money.'

I'm not exactly sure why you feel that any actions the Goldmans take should include the Browns.

weezer

Ojs celebrity/money was the vehicles he had to care about as they were what allowed him the ability to support all the people that depended on him for financial survival. This included his/their kids, Nicoles FAMILY and Nicole.
You do remember that Nicole unlike most married women with children did not work at any time during the 17 years she was married to OJ either before or after she had kids.
So i agree. His image was important to him and everyone that depended on him.

martin II

[martin II]

Fred Goldman continues to do what he said he would: make orenthal pay monetarily for what the criminal jury failed to do. I personally have not heard/read anyone say they are disappointed in Mr. Goldman for any of the actions he has taken. If you examine orenthal's life/statements, there were only two things that were important to him: his celebrity status and 'stuff/money.' orenthal was responsible for the demise of his status and Mr. Goldman continues to pursue the 'stuff/money.'

"I'm not exactly sure why you feel that any actions the Goldmans take should include the Browns" .

weezer

The browns and fred lost equally when the murders happened. They both brought civil court action and both received judgements. I think that any money made available should be shared between both of them.

HOWEVER Fred SUED the Browns in a attempt to force them to pay a debt they owed OJ, to HIM. This action might have brought to a end,
coorperaiton between then as it was seen as another money grab by fred.

At any rate Denise Brown stated in the newsweek article that the Browns would ask people NOT to cooperate with freds planned auction of the book rights as they saw it as nothinhg but a outragous money grab by fred.

MARTIN ii

[weezer]

weezer

Ojs celebrity/money was the vehicles he had to care about as they were what allowed him the ability to support all the people that depended on him for financial survival. This included his/their kids, Nicoles FAMILY and Nicole.
You do remember that Nicole unlike most married women with children did not work at any time during the 17 years she was married to OJ either before or after she had kids.
So i agree. His image was important to him and everyone that depended on him.

martin II

those were the vehicles orenthal used to be 'oj' -- he wrote in a book from when he was first beginning that 'being oj' was what was most important to him. I guess that kind of takes Nicole out of that mix.

And, yes, he was responsible for supporting his wives and his children. Poor Marguerite got the worst of that deal as I remember she had to take him to court to get him to pay her the remainder of their divorce settlement. But, seems to me she got her pay back when she refused to expose orenthal for what he was when she had the opportunity.

Nicole was with orenthal from the time she was 17 -- I don't know what you think there was that prepared her to work outside of the home. And I think you are uninformed when you say that 'unlike most married women with children worked outside of the home' -- again, I think you are showing your ignorance on this subject. I do remember reading that there was a consensus of friends and family (as well as Nicole's writings) stating that orenthal did not want her to work because that would interfere with HIS schedule.

[weezer]

weezer

The browns and fred lost equally when the murders happened. They both brought civil court action and both received judgements. I think that any money made available should be shared between both of them.

HOWEVER Fred SUED the Browns in a attempt to force them to pay a debt they owed OJ, to HIM. This action might have brought to a end,
coorperaiton between then as it was seen as another money grab by fred.

At any rate Denise Brown stated in the newsweek article that the Browns would ask people NOT to cooperate with freds planned auction of the book rights as they saw it as nothinhg but a outragous money grab by fred.

MARTIN ii

I understand that both families lost -- just not sure why you feel that Fred Goldman is responsible for making sure the Browns get their share.

If orenthal had money owed to him that there was a chance of him receiving -- doesn't matter the source -- then Mr. Goldman had every right to go after that money.

I haven't personally read anything quoting the Browns on the auction of the book rights. I feel they've comported themselves exemplary since the murders and I applaud Denise's efforts on behalf of abused women. I'm sure neither family wants to see the book published EXCEPT it would be ironic if Mr. Goldman was able to change the title -- as he's suggested -- to "I Did It."

[martin II]

I understand that both families lost -- just not sure why you feel that Fred Goldman is responsible for making sure the Browns get their share.

If orenthal had money owed to him that there was a chance of him receiving -- doesn't matter the source -- then Mr. Goldman had every right to go after that money.

I haven't personally read anything quoting the Browns on the auction of the book rights. I feel they've comported themselves exemplary since the murders and I applaud Denise's efforts on behalf of abused women. I'm sure neither family wants to see the book published EXCEPT it would be ironic if Mr. Goldman was able to change the title -- as he's suggested -- to "I Did It."


weezer

You are at it again.

"I did it" would not be by oj. There may be copyright laws to consider.

I have posted denise Browns remarks about how outrageous freds money grab is in the newsweek article before. Her comments are included in the
newsweek interview of fred.

The judge tossed out freds suite against the browns as he saught to force them to pay him the $400,000 they owed oj. so it did matter.
The browns obviously did not have the money to pay oj and he never pressured them to do so. So why did fred go after them. Because money was involved.


martin II

[martin II]

those were the vehicles orenthal used to be 'oj' -- he wrote in a book from when he was first beginning that 'being oj' was what was most important to him. I guess that kind of takes Nicole out of that mix.

And, yes, he was responsible for supporting his wives and his children. Poor Marguerite got the worst of that deal as I remember she had to take him to court to get him to pay her the remainder of their divorce settlement. But, seems to me she got her pay back when she refused to expose orenthal for what he was when she had the opportunity.

Nicole was with orenthal from the time she was 17 -- I don't know what you think there was that prepared her to work outside of the home. And I think you are uninformed when you say that 'unlike most married women with children worked outside of the home' -- again, I think you are showing your ignorance on this subject. I do remember reading that there was a consensus of friends and family (as well as Nicole's writings) stating that orenthal did not want her to work because that would interfere with HIS schedule.


weezer

It was Nicoles responsibility to prepare herself for work just like any other 17 year old woman. Yes i do believe that a great number of married women with childred do work outside the home. Otherwise there is no need for Government and corporate sponsored day car centers for children.
martin II

[socaldiva]

*snip*
It was Nicoles responsibility to prepare herself for work just like any other 17 year old woman.


:rolleyes:

[2L8 4A D8]

weezer

It was Nicoles responsibility to prepare herself for work just like any other 17 year old woman. Yes i do believe that a great number of married women with childred do work outside the home. Otherwise there is no need for Government and corporate sponsored day car centers for children.
martin II

Either put up or STHU! Name one Celebrity Wife that works outside the home for someone else. Being self-employed through a business started with her Husband's money doesn't count.

Maybe John Q. Public's Wife has to work outside the home to make ends meet, but not a Celebrity Wife who has millions herself (Julia Roberts) or a Celebrity Wife (Katie Holmes) whose Husband has millions (Tom Cruise)!

Start naming names or knock off your Nicole bashing SFB!! :punch:

JMO and MOO!!

[weezer]

weezer

The browns and fred lost equally when the murders happened. They both brought civil court action and both received judgements. I think that any money made available should be shared between both of them.

HOWEVER Fred SUED the Browns in a attempt to force them to pay a debt they owed OJ, to HIM. This action might have brought to a end,
coorperaiton between then as it was seen as another money grab by fred.

At any rate Denise Brown stated in the newsweek article that the Browns would ask people NOT to cooperate with freds planned auction of the book rights as they saw it as nothinhg but a outragous money grab by fred.

MARTIN ii

I thought that the Browns did not sue but Nicole's estate did. At any rate, I doubt anyone who believes orenthal murdered Nicole and Ron is against stripping orenthal of the book rights.

[weezer]

weezer

It was Nicoles responsibility to prepare herself for work just like any other 17 year old woman. Yes i do believe that a great number of married women with childred do work outside the home. Otherwise there is no need for Government and corporate sponsored day car centers for children.
martin II

Evidently Nicole thought her responsibility was to her family -- something she took very seriously. I understand that there is a great deal of working mothers -- I happen to be one of them. I just don't believe that 'most' of the working mothers are married to millionaire celebrities.

[weezer]

weezer

You are at it again.

"I did it" would not be by oj. There may be copyright laws to consider.

I have posted denise Browns remarks about how outrageous freds money grab is in the newsweek article before. Her comments are included in the
newsweek interview of fred.

The judge tossed out freds suite against the browns as he saught to force them to pay him the $400,000 they owed oj. so it did matter.
The browns obviously did not have the money to pay oj and he never pressured them to do so. So why did fred go after them. Because money was involved.


martin II

what makes you think the Browns didn't have the money to pay orenthal or that orenthal didn't pressure them to pay him?

It's my opinion that Mr. Goldman 'went after' the money so that orenthal couldn't get it. Does anyone know if any kind of lein was put against the property?

[Jayme K]

sadly, you have proved over and over again that you have not. You erroneously believe that orenthal must be innocent because he's black. You have blamed Nicole for orenthal's abuse of her. You have trashed Nicole's and Ron's reputations while you continue to excuse orenthal's outrageous and hideous behavior. You've disparaged Mr.Goldman because he believes orenthal butched his son and got away with it and wants to extract some justice some way.

maybe someday, when you're through being the victim, you'll look beyond you're own little disturbed world.

Standing on my chair giving you a kick azz standing ovation.

[Jayme K]

weezer

It was Nicoles responsibility to prepare herself for work just like any other 17 year old woman. Yes i do believe that a great number of married women with childred do work outside the home. Otherwise there is no need for Government and corporate sponsored day car centers for children.
martin II

In this day and age sure. But back in the 70's it was just becoming acceptable for a woman to work outside of the home, and many women were still taught that their place was at home, being a good wife to the hard working man.

[martin II]

what makes you think the Browns didn't have the money to pay orenthal or that orenthal didn't pressure them to pay him?

It's my opinion that Mr. Goldman 'went after' the money so that orenthal couldn't get it. Does anyone know if any kind of lein was put against the property?

weezer

here is a update on Fred going after the payment due oj from his loan lou brown. Because oj owes the browns more than they owe him there is no intent to pay oj or fred.
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"Also Monday, the judge ordered that any payments made by the parents of Nicole Brown Simpson to O.J. Simpson in repayment of a $300,000 loan also be given to Goldman's parents, Fred Goldman and Sharon Rufo.

Simpson holds a note against the home of Lou and Juditha Brown as collateral for the loan he made prior to his ex-wife's death. Attorneys conceded that no payments are being made by the Browns and probably will never be made because of their multi-million dollar judgment against Simpson.

Simpson was acquitted of killing his ex-wife and Goldman in a 1994 knife attack, but a civil jury this year found him responsible for their deaths. ""

[weezer]

weezer

here is a update on Fred going after the payment due oj from his loan lou brown. Because oj owes the browns more than they owe him there is no intent to pay oj or fred.
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"Also Monday, the judge ordered that any payments made by the parents of Nicole Brown Simpson to O.J. Simpson in repayment of a $300,000 loan also be given to Goldman's parents, Fred Goldman and Sharon Rufo.

Simpson holds a note against the home of Lou and Juditha Brown as collateral for the loan he made prior to his ex-wife's death. Attorneys conceded that no payments are being made by the Browns and probably will never be made because of their multi-million dollar judgment against Simpson.

Simpson was acquitted of killing his ex-wife and Goldman in a 1994 knife attack, but a civil jury this year found him responsible for their deaths. ""

Looks like as usual, you've overstated your case: the amount was $300K and not the $400K you posted. At any rate, I'm not real sure what you think this proves. The facts are that orenthal would have monies coming to him -- no matter the source -- and according to the judgment, that money was owed to the Goldmans and Browns.

As you and other NGs have posted, it's up to the Goldmans to find where orenthal has money stashed and up to the Goldmans to go after it and orenthal doesn't have to tell them where he has money. So Mr. Goldman is doing just that. It looks to me, if anything, that the Browns are up by $300K -- good for them.

[martin II]

what makes you think the Browns didn't have the money to pay orenthal or that orenthal didn't pressure them to pay him?

It's my opinion that Mr. Goldman 'went after' the money so that orenthal couldn't get it. Does anyone know if any kind of lein was put against the property?

weezer
Oj made the Loan to Lou brown long before nicole was murdered. oj and the browns had a good relationship at that time and oj did not pressure them to pay or do any thing with lou's note he held.

OJ never expected to get payment after lou received the civil judgement against him.

Freds second attempt recently to get lou to pay him was successful along with the rights to IF I DID IT.

Considering that oj owes lou more then lou owes oj, lou had never intended to pay oj the $300,000. He was right in this.

Fred knew that lou had no intention to pay oj BUT he went to court in a attempt to force Lou to pay him the $300,000 regardless of what oj owed Lou.
The court did not force oj to give fred the note but allowed the browns to pay or not to pay.
Fred wanted the money from the Browns period.
MARTIN ii

[martin II]

WEEZER

PS
My point is that fred KNEW the browns would never pay oj this $300,000
so he made a attempt to force lou brown to pay him. Lou gets to keep the $300,000.
martin II

[martin II]

Looks like as usual, you've overstated your case: the amount was $300K and not the $400K you posted. At any rate, I'm not real sure what you think this proves. The facts are that orenthal would have monies coming to him -- no matter the source -- and according to the judgment, that money was owed to the Goldmans and Browns.

As you and other NGs have posted, it's up to the Goldmans to find where orenthal has money stashed and up to the Goldmans to go after it and orenthal doesn't have to tell them where he has money. So Mr. Goldman is doing just that. It looks to me, if anything, that the Browns are up by $300K -- good for them.

weezer
i don't think the JUDGEMENT states that any monies owed to oj goes to the goldmans.

martin II

[weezer]

WEEZER

PS
My point is that fred KNEW the browns would never pay oj this $300,000
so he made a attempt to force lou brown to pay him. Lou gets to keep the $300,000.
martin II

you continue to ignore the obvious: orenthal had $300k owed to him -- NO MATTER THE SOURCE -- Mr. Goldman sued to recover those proceeds. As I remember, you are one of those folks who believes that if the Goldmans want to recover any of the judgment, they have to find where orenthal has it and then go after it. Mr. Goldman did that.

The second part of your post is not clear. I don't understand your logic: the Browns are up by $300k but you seem to think that the Goldmans are doing something wrong when they don't include the Browns in any actions taken to recover monies?????

[tazzybaby]

I am in complete shock that Arnele would jump in this now! Why didn't she speak up long ago? They have almost completely lost the rights to the book and NOW she speaks up. What, did she forget that she had a stake in this? Did her dad just now tell her what was going on? Does she not read/watch the news? I can't believe she is allowing herself to be used this way. This is their effort to stop the auction. They think that if the public thinks that they will be taking the money away from "the kids" that it will help them. But, most people see through their shananigans.

Yale Galanter is a joke...lol He doesn't know what he is talking about and he is a weasle. He will say whatever he needs to in order to defend OJ. I remember him talking about how OJ would NEVER write the book in the first place. And, he was talking about what he would do if proven wrong. Well, he didn't follow up. I also think it's funny that they are trying to say that the Ghost Writer wrote the book himself. OJ was bragging about what a great job he did writing the book...lol He was proud of himself. He said that the help he got was on the one chapter.

:cuss:

[weezer]

weezer
i don't think the JUDGEMENT states that any monies owed to oj goes to the goldmans.

martin II

An outstanding loan owed to an individual is considered an asset until declared otherwise. Ask the IRS.

[martin II]

An outstanding loan owed to an individual is considered an asset until declared otherwise. Ask the IRS.

weezer

you have lost me

The judgement fred holds against oj is not a loan.

martin II

[socaldiva]

*snip*
Yale Galanter is a joke...lol

As is anyone that would hang around with OJ :tongue:

[weezer]

weezer

you have lost me

The judgement fred holds against oj is not a loan.

martin II

let me help you: the monies owed to orenthal are considered assets. Mr. Goldman is going after orenthal's assets to satisfy the judgement. Now do you understand?

[martin II]

let me help you: the monies owed to orenthal are considered assets. Mr. Goldman is going after orenthal's assets to satisfy the judgement. Now do you understand?

weezer

you are correctr in your last post.

my point is that the JUDGEMENT only states that oj owes the browns and goldmans money.It allows the goldmans to attatch oj;s money if they find any. It does not specifiy that ok''s assets are OWED to anyone. Only that he has a judgement against him in favor of the browns and goldmans.

I think this is correct. read the judgement.

your post.
" and according to the judgment, that money was owed to the Goldmans and Browns."

martin II

[martin II]

let me help you: the monies owed to orenthal are considered assets. Mr. Goldman is going after orenthal's assets to satisfy the judgement. Now do you understand?

weezer

fred knowing that the browns would never pay oj the loan because of the offset, then demamded that the browns pay him.

he was successful IF the browns ever decide they want to pay oj the loan back. otherwise it was a wasted effort.
martin II

[martin II]

you continue to ignore the obvious: orenthal had $300k owed to him -- NO MATTER THE SOURCE -- Mr. Goldman sued to recover those proceeds. As I remember, you are one of those folks who believes that if the Goldmans want to recover any of the judgment, they have to find where orenthal has it and then go after it. Mr. Goldman did that.

The second part of your post is not clear. I don't understand your logic: the Browns are up by $300k but you seem to think that the Goldmans are doing something wrong when they don't include the Browns in any actions taken to recover monies?????

weezer

considering that oj owes the browns millions i think the $300,000 they owed oj is considered notcollectable. This was another money grab by fred.

MARTIN ii

[martin II]

I am in complete shock that Arnele would jump in this now! Why didn't she speak up long ago? They have almost completely lost the rights to the book and NOW she speaks up. What, did she forget that she had a stake in this? Did her dad just now tell her what was going on? Does she not read/watch the news? I can't believe she is allowing herself to be used this way. This is their effort to stop the auction. They think that if the public thinks that they will be taking the money away from "the kids" that it will help them. But, most people see through their shananigans.

Yale Galanter is a joke...lol He doesn't know what he is talking about and he is a weasle. He will say whatever he needs to in order to defend OJ. I remember him talking about how OJ would NEVER write the book in the first place. And, he was talking about what he would do if proven wrong. Well, he didn't follow up. I also think it's funny that they are trying to say that the Ghost Writer wrote the book himself. OJ was bragging about what a great job he did writing the book...lol He was proud of himself. He said that the help he got was on the one chapter.

:cuss:


TAZZY HI

IF it is true that her Florida company was never properly served notice of the court action against it ,she has a point. If there is proof that her Florida company was properly served then she has no point.

The ghost writer received $100,000 he must have written something.

What is odd is that Fred is now promoting a book partly written by OJ SIMPSON. What a turnaround. what some want do for money.
martin II

[weezer]

weezer

you are correctr in your last post.

my point is that the JUDGEMENT only states that oj owes the browns and goldmans money.It allows the goldmans to attatch oj;s money if they find any. It does not specifiy that ok''s assets are OWED to anyone. Only that he has a judgement against him in favor of the browns and goldmans.

I think this is correct. read the judgement.

your post.
" and according to the judgment, that money was owed to the Goldmans and Browns."

martin II

orenthal was forced to sell off assets to satisfy the judgment -- the outstanding loan is considered an asset.

It seems to me that the Browns were in a lose-lose position: they owed the murderer of their daughter money AND they were the grandparents of the two children. IIRC, the Browns declined to sue as the "Browns" but did join in as the "Estate of Nicole Brown Simpson"

[martin II]

“Everybody knows Simpson did it; we don't need his written confession.”

The Brown Family

tazzy hi
you left out the balance of the comments. so here the comments of the brown family.

martin II

Goldman’s decision angered the Browns, who have adamantly opposed the book’s publication. On Monday, Denise Brown and her family issued a strongly worded statement criticizing the potential publication. “The Goldmans' sudden reversal of positions to justify the auction of these rights and subsequent publication and [their assertion] that ‘the book’ is Simpson’s confession [reveals] their true motive, which is to collect money,” the Brown family statement read. “Everybody knows Simpson did it; we don't need his written confession.” Calling the strategy “an overzealous pursuit to collect on the judgment,” the family encouraged people to “speak out against this auction.”

The Goldmans and their legal team plan to promote the auction vigorously. This week, attorneys set up a website, ojsimpsonbookrights.blogspot.com, which features O.J.'s old book contract and the judge's order authorizing the auction. In addition, they are sending direct mail solicitations to 1,600 literary agents, publishing houses and movie companies

[weezer]

weezer

considering that oj owes the browns millions i think the $300,000 they owed oj is considered notcollectable. This was another money grab by fred.

MARTIN ii

Fred Goldman identified an asset of orenthal's. I don't see the difference between that outstanding debt whether it was between orenthal and the Browns or orenthal and you.

[tazzybaby]

TAZZY HI

IF it is true that her Florida company was never properly served notice of the court action against it ,she has a point. If there is proof that her Florida company was properly served then she has no point.

The ghost writer received $100,000 he must have written something.

What is odd is that Fred is now promoting a book partly written by OJ SIMPSON. What a turnaround. what some want do for money.
martin II

Hi Martin,

That changes nothing. Where was Arnelle from the beginning? Why hasn't she stood up and said this is our company before?

The Ghost Writer helped to put into words what OJ was saying. Why would OJ take credit for the rest when we all know he didn't write it? He can't spell or form sentences very well at all. He even knows this himself. So, he can't write any book ever. He tells them what to write.

What is odd is Arnelle coming out now. Why didn't she do this from the beginning?

I bet OJ and Yale had something to do with this. They are both weasles.

[weezer]

TAZZY HI

IF it is true that her Florida company was never properly served notice of the court action against it ,she has a point. If there is proof that her Florida company was properly served then she has no point.

The ghost writer received $100,000 he must have written something.

What is odd is that Fred is now promoting a book partly written by OJ SIMPSON. What a turnaround. what some want do for money.
martin II

You do understand that she is an officer in a trust and not a company, don't you? And I'm not sure you are correct about it being in Florida -- I believe I remember reading some where that the trust was set up in California.

[tazzybaby]

tazzy hi
you left out the balance of the comments. so here the comments of the brown family.

martin II

Goldman’s decision angered the Browns, who have adamantly opposed the book’s publication. On Monday, Denise Brown and her family issued a strongly worded statement criticizing the potential publication. “The Goldmans' sudden reversal of positions to justify the auction of these rights and subsequent publication and [their assertion] that ‘the book’ is Simpson’s confession [reveals] their true motive, which is to collect money,” the Brown family statement read. “Everybody knows Simpson did it; we don't need his written confession.” Calling the strategy “an overzealous pursuit to collect on the judgment,” the family encouraged people to “speak out against this auction.”

The Goldmans and their legal team plan to promote the auction vigorously. This week, attorneys set up a website, ojsimpsonbookrights.blogspot.com, which features O.J.'s old book contract and the judge's order authorizing the auction. In addition, they are sending direct mail solicitations to 1,600 literary agents, publishing houses and movie companies

Hi Martin,

I didn't leave out anything. You're just trying to put this in there...lol At least tell the truth.

If the Goldmans don't get the rights to this book then OJ will again get to profit from this book. Whether anyone agrees with Goldman's tactics or not it is right to keep OJ from profiting again from this book. He is a liar and a murderer.

[martin II]

Fred Goldman identified an asset of orenthal's. I don't see the difference between that outstanding debt whether it was between orenthal and the Browns or orenthal and you.

weezer
now i know you are loosing it. The fact that fred attacked the browns for money he knew would never go to oj, is more proof that he does not care who he hurts as long as he gets the money. I think the browns are much older people and may not even have the ability or desire to pay oj and this may be the reason oj has NEVER asked that the loan be paid.

What it shows is that fred will go after anyone ragardless of the circumstances to get his paws on money.

Denise has said that they as a family will not chase money and has decided to move on with their lives.She turned down the money offer by HC. I think this is a healthy attitude for the Browns to take.Too bad fred cannot see the personal benefit of this posture.
martin II

[weezer]

*Snip*What is odd is that Fred is now promoting a book partly written by OJ SIMPSON. What a turnaround. what some want do for money.

Why odd? Seems like a smart thing to do if you're wanting to make the butcher of your child pay what a court of law declared. I have to laugh at your last sentence since it was orenthal that wrote ;) the book for money. What some won't do for money is right!

[martin II]

Hi Martin,

I didn't leave out anything. You're just trying to put this in there...lol At least tell the truth.

If the Goldmans don't get the rights to this book then OJ will again get to profit from this book. Whether anyone agrees with Goldman's tactics or not it is right to keep OJ from profiting again from this book. He is a liar and a murderer.

tazzy hi

I think if you want to quote the article, it should be quoted in full. not one line.
The article and the quote from Dinise speaks to the Browns feelings on feds
money grab. None are my words.
martin II

[tazzybaby]

weezer
now i know you are loosing it. The fact that fred attacked the browns for money he knew would never go to oj, is more proof that he does not care who he hurts as long as he gets the money. I think the browns are much older people and may not even have the ability or desire to pay oj and this may be the reason oj has NEVER asked that the loan be paid.

What it shows is that fred will go after anyone ragardless of the circumstances to get his paws on money.

Denise has said that they as a family will not chase money and has decided to move on with their lives.She turned down the money offer by HC. I think this is a healthy attitude for the Browns to take.Too bad fred cannot see the personal benefit of this posture.
martin II

You don't seem to understand the difference between the Browns and the Goldmans in this. Anything that the Browns get goes directly to the kids anyways. Why wouldn't OJ voluntarily pay the Brown Judgement? Why didn't he take that money and put it in the trust for Sydney and Justin? Because he spent the money. He was again thinking of only himself. That's what OJ did from the beginning. What he did sell he put into the Browns judgement. Why? Because it went to the kids anyways. The Goldman's were mad about that because OJ was able to manipulate the judgement. He's always been like that.

Personal benefit? The Browns don't have a choice. Their grand children are more important as it should be. The Goldman's didn't have grand children to focus on. Their son/brother was taken too early for him to have kids. Whether I agree with it or not doesn't matter. I understand it.

[martin II]

*Snip*

Why odd? Seems like a smart thing to do if you're wanting to make the butcher of your child pay what a court of law declared. I have to laugh at your last sentence since it was orenthal that wrote ;) the book for money. What some won't do for money is right!

WEEZER
We may be getting ahead of ourselves. Lets see if there is a auction and a buyer and if the american public will buy the book.
martinII

[tazzybaby]

tazzy hi

I think if you want to quote the article, it should be quoted in full. not one line.
The article and the quote from Dinise speaks to the Browns feelings on feds
money grab. None are my words.
martin II

First of all.....how far back in time did you go to get that post of mine? Why didn't you respond then?

Second, I gave the link which gives the entire article. I posted that one line to respond to another of your posts and it was in it's own right the correct answer.

That's manipulating my post for your own agenda.

:no:

[weezer]

WEEZER
We may be getting ahead of ourselves. Lets see if there is a auction and a buyer and if the american public will buy the book.
martinII

maybe -- but I still like the idea of the title change to "I Did It" -- :D

[weezer]

*Snip*. . . now i know you are loosing it. The fact that fred attacked the browns for money he knew would never go to oj, is more proof that he does not care who he hurts as long as he gets the money. I think the browns are much older people and may not even have the ability or desire to pay oj and this may be the reason oj has NEVER asked that the loan be paid.


First of all, the word is "losing" and you obviously don't know the meaning.

Mr. Goldman did not attack the Browns and he would have no way of knowing that orenthal would never collect that debt. I'm assuming your statement that orenthal has never asked for repayment is your fantasy since I've never read/seen anything that states that.

Finally, there is of course that the Browns are older (your perspective) -- what do you think would happen to that loan if something happened to them (God forbid)? Mr. Goldman was correct to identify the loan and to go after it.

[weezer]

martin, I owe you an apology. It seems that it is a company and not a trust

"And the Sacramento County Sheriff's Department has written a letter to the judge questioning whether the department has jurisdiction over Lorraine Brooke Associates, a Florida-based company."

Since she was so late in interjecting herself into the case, I wonder if Arnelle was even aware that she was an officer of the shill company?

[martin II]

martin, I owe you an apology. It seems that it is a company and not a trust

"And the Sacramento County Sheriff's Department has written a letter to the judge questioning whether the department has jurisdiction over Lorraine Brooke Associates, a Florida-based company."

Since she was so late in interjecting herself into the case, I wonder if Arnelle was even aware that she was an officer of the shill company?

weezer
The company was incorporated in Florida and a bank account was opened.
Someone was listed as a officer/president. i think
martin II

[martin II]

martin, I owe you an apology. It seems that it is a company and not a trust

"And the Sacramento County Sheriff's Department has written a letter to the judge questioning whether the department has jurisdiction over Lorraine Brooke Associates, a Florida-based company."

Since she was so late in interjecting herself into the case, I wonder if Arnelle was even aware that she was an officer of the shill company?

weezer

L.B. was incorporated in the state of Florida. Arnell is the president. The law may required that L.B. she, be served in Florida. The trust oj established for his kids is something else.
The CA judge gave a order to A CA sheriff's office to inforce his order on a Florida company. hhhmmmmm

It is possible that the judge made a mistake. we will see. where did you get the info about the Sacramento county sheriffs department?
martin II

[martin II]

*Snip*

First of all, the word is "losing" and you obviously don't know the meaning.

Mr. Goldman did not attack the Browns and he would have no way of knowing that orenthal would never collect that debt. I'm assuming your statement that orenthal has never asked for repayment is your fantasy since I've never read/seen anything that states that.

Finally, there is of course that the Browns are older (your perspective) -- what do you think would happen to that loan if something happened to them (God forbid)? Mr. Goldman was correct to identify the loan and to go after it.

weezer

If oj wanted to make claim on the note he could ask for payment. if brown refused oj could go to court and get a judgement.

OJ can circumvent all of freds money grabbing activities by just canceling the note and release the browns of the obligaiton to pay.Or agree that the money go into Nicoles estate for the younger children.

For fred to sue the browns in court for the money is a finaicial attack on them.

martin II

[weezer]

weezer

L.B. was incorporated in the state of Florida. Arnell is the president. The law may required that L.B. she, be served in Florida. The trust oj established for his kids is something else.
The CA judge gave a order to A CA sheriff's office to inforce his order on a Florida company. hhhmmmmm

It is possible that the judge made a mistake. we will see. where did you get the info about the Sacramento county sheriffs department?
martin II

after more careful reading, I have to admit that I had the trust and company mixed up. Wonder why orenthal didn't put the book money into the established trust? I mean, after all, he did say the only reason he did the book was to help secure his children's legacy............LOL

Also, the articles all say that the company is owned by his four children. Wonder how he was able to take the money? Maybe the kids can come back and file against him for theft..........Hmmmm

I didn't bookmark the article I took the quote from but pretty much all of them were saying the same thing.

[weezer]

weezer

If oj wanted to make claim on the note he could ask for payment. if brown refused oj could go to court and get a judgement.

OJ can circumvent all of freds money grabbing activities by just canceling the note and release the browns of the obligaiton to pay.Or agree that the money go into Nicoles estate for the younger children.

For fred to sue the browns in court for the money is a finaicial attack on them.

martin II

your reasoning makes no sense to me. You seem to have the same kind of reasoning orenthal does when it comes to the money. Evidently Mr. Goldman anticipated orenthal pulling some kind of nonsense about the note and filed a claim against it. We'll see what happens when all is said and done because orenthal has such hatred for Denise that I cannot imagine he would not try to claim the $300k or the property if something were to happen to the Browns.

[martin II]

Hi Martin,

That changes nothing. Where was Arnelle from the beginning? Why hasn't she stood up and said this is our company before?

The Ghost Writer helped to put into words what OJ was saying. Why would OJ take credit for the rest when we all know he didn't write it? He can't spell or form sentences very well at all. He even knows this himself. So, he can't write any book ever. He tells them what to write.

What is odd is Arnelle coming out now. Why didn't she do this from the beginning?

I bet OJ and Yale had something to do with this. They are both weasles.


tazzy hi

Fred's judge ruled on the matter about two/three weeks ago.
In most books, The publishers proof readers make all grammer corrections
When the book interview and story first came out, LB a Florida company owned by oj's children was identified as the owners so most people but you knew this.It seems.
I think the lawyer, in Florida, that incorporated the compnay in Florida is advising Arnell.
martin II

[weezer]

tazzy hi

Fred's judge ruled on the matter about two/three weeks ago.
In most books, The publishers proof readers make all grammer corrections
When the book interview and story first came out, LB a Florida company owned by oj's children was identified as the owners so most people but you knew this.It seems.
I think the lawyer, in Florida, that incorporated the compnay in Florida is advising Arnell.
martin II

wonder how orenthal was able to get his hands on the book money belonging to his four children?

[martin II]

your reasoning makes no sense to me. You seem to have the same kind of reasoning orenthal does when it comes to the money. Evidently Mr. Goldman anticipated orenthal pulling some kind of nonsense about the note and filed a claim against it. We'll see what happens when all is said and done because orenthal has such hatred for Denise that I cannot imagine he would not try to claim the $300k or the property if something were to happen to the Browns.

weezer
oj would claim the property to give it to fred?

For all we and fred know the note may already have been cancelled. In favor of the browns.It now seems that Denise .based on her comments, is not friendly with fred at all. What do you think?
martin II

[martin II]

wonder how orenthal was able to get his hands on the book money belonging to his four children?

weezer
He didn't oj was paid his part ,by Judith Regan for his services and his signature.he paid his taxes on the house that will go to his kids.The balance was put into the kids trust.That is my understanding.
martin II

[martin II]

weezer
what happens if the CA sheriff's office decides that he does not have authority over a Florida company??
martin II

[weezer]

weezer
oj would claim the property to give it to fred?

For all we and fred know the note may already have been cancelled. In favor of the browns.It now seems that Denise .based on her comments, is not friendly with fred at all. What do you think?
martin II

I don't have a clue what you are trying to say with your first sentence! :confused:

I don't believe there's ever been a 'great' relationship between the Goldmans and the Browns. Although both families lost, their perspectives have to be different. Remember Tazzy wrote this: "What he did sell he put into the Browns judgement. Why? Because it went to the kids anyways. The Goldman's were mad about that because OJ was able to manipulate the judgement."

[martin II]

after more careful reading, I have to admit that I had the trust and company mixed up. Wonder why orenthal didn't put the book money into the established trust? I mean, after all, he did say the only reason he did the book was to help secure his children's legacy............LOL

Also, the articles all say that the company is owned by his four children. Wonder how he was able to take the money? Maybe the kids can come back and file against him for theft..........Hmmmm

I didn't bookmark the article I took the quote from but pretty much all of them were saying the same thing.


weezer
i tried to google but nothing came up. maby another poster will find the article and post it since you cannot.
martin II

[weezer]

weezer
He didn't oj was paid his part ,by Judith Regan for his services and his signature.he paid his taxes on the house that will go to his kids.The balance was put into the kids trust.That is my understanding.
martin II

That's not what he said. He said he paid HIS taxes and HIS bills and spent the rest. Nothing left. My question is how did he get his hands on money that belonged to Lorraine Brooke Associates.

[weezer]

weezer
what happens if the CA sheriff's office decides that he does not have authority over a Florida company??
martin II

I don't know WTH you are talking about! Have you confused yourself again? :eek:

[martin II]

I don't have a clue what you are trying to say with your first sentence! :confused:

I don't believe there's ever been a 'great' relationship between the Goldmans and the Browns. Although both families lost, their perspectives have to be different. Remember Tazzy wrote this: "What he did sell he put into the Browns judgement. Why? Because it went to the kids anyways. The Goldman's were mad about that because OJ was able to manipulate the judgement."

weezer
if oj made claim and got the property as you suggest, tin cup would be able to attatch the property.

If you were OJ and had a choice, would you give the money to tin cup or your cnildren.
Don't let your hate overshadow your common sense.
martin II

[martin II]

I don't know WTH you are talking about! Have you confused yourself again? :eek:

weezer
you posted that the Sheriff wrote to the judge asking if he, the sheriff, has authority over a Florida company. Obviously the sheriff is not clear that he can order LB a Florida company to do something. If misunderstood your post let me know.
martin II

[martin II]

That's not what he said. He said he paid HIS taxes and HIS bills and spent the rest. Nothing left. My question is how did he get his hands on money that belonged to Lorraine Brooke Associates.

weezer
Judith Regan said her company paid oj for his part in the interivew and the book. Now you believe everything oj says. I don;t think he had any obligation to say exactly what he did with the money.
martin II

[martin II]

That's not what he said. He said he paid HIS taxes and HIS bills and spent the rest. Nothing left. My question is how did he get his hands on money that belonged to Lorraine Brooke Associates.

weezer
it is my understandin that Regan paid oj his agreed on advance. wa hich was his money. The rights to the book went to LB. The CA judge ordered LB a Florida company to give the rights to the sheriff for auction or make the rights available for auction.
If LB refuses as a Florida company, what happens then?
martin II

[weezer]

weezer
if oj made claim and got the property as you suggest, tin cup would be able to attatch the property.

If you were OJ and had a choice, would you give the money to tin cup or your cnildren.
Don't let your hate overshadow your common sense.
martin II

oh you silly man -- orenthal doesn't care about his children. Don't you remember the testimony about him being an absentee dad? or maybe you remember Jason beating the statue of his dad? or maybe you remember Sydney's 911 call? or maybe you just remember that he left Nicole butchered to be found by his two small children? You have me all wrong -- I don't hate orenthal. I find him to be no different than any other murderer or criminal -- not fit to walk among society. Gosh, I hope he's not taking it personal :tongue:

[weezer]

weezer
Judith Regan said her company paid oj for his part in the interivew and the book. Now you believe everything oj says. I don;t think he had any obligation to say exactly what he did with the money.
martin II
That's not true -- I told you I believed him when he said he 'was running around like a crazy man' on the night he murdered Nicole and Ron.

The fact that he did say how he spent the money shows his perversion: he evidently got off when he was able to rub the Goldman's faces in the dirt by saying he'd gotten the money, spent it and now it was all gone.

I'm still wondering how he got his hands on money that belonged to a company he supposedly had no ties to.

[martin II]

That's not true -- I told you I believed him when he said he 'was running around like a crazy man' on the night he murdered Nicole and Ron.

The fact that he did say how he spent the money shows his perversion: he evidently got off when he was able to rub the Goldman's faces in the dirt by saying he'd gotten the money, spent it and now it was all gone.

I'm still wondering how he got his hands on money that belonged to a company he supposedly had no ties to.

weezer
this is the last time i will inform you of this.

OJ was paid his agreed on Advance by Regan. That was his money , not LB. The rights to the book is owned by LB, his childrens company. The book has not been sold yet, so the money LB , his children , would have received has been stopped. for now.
martin II

[weezer]

weezer
this is the last time i will inform you of this.

OJ was paid his agreed on Advance by Regan. That was his money , not LB. The rights to the book is owned by LB, his childrens company. The book has not been sold yet, so the money LB , his children , would have received has been stopped. for now.
martin II

Really? Then I guess Mr. Goldman had every right to go after the money.

[weezer]

weezer
i tried to google but nothing came up. maby another poster will find the article and post it since you cannot.
martin II

go for it -- I'm just not sure that you'll find any other poster (besides william and/or sassy) willing to do your research. :shrug: But, I've been proven wrong before.

[martin II]

Really? Then I guess Mr. Goldman had every right to go after the money.

weezer

it would not be a bad idea if tin cup did get some money from his efforts.
Maby then he would knock down his beggers tent and go home.

We will see what happens but if this auction does not go off or something happens that prevent fred from cashing in this time , I think it would be too much for him after comming so close to some free money.

But he should leave the Browns alone.
martin II

[martin II]

go for it -- I'm just not sure that you'll find any other poster (besides william and/or sassy) willing to do your research. :shrug: But, I've been proven wrong before.

weezer
sassy and william are both good researchers. I will continue to look since you will not tell us where you got the info from.

martin II

[weezer]

weezer
sassy and william are both good researchers. I will continue to look since you will not tell us where you got the info from.

martin II

why on earth do you have to be such a jerk? It's not a matter of 'not' telling you -- I did not bookmark the article when I was researching. I copied the paragraph that I wanted to offer the apology over. I'm beginning to wonder why I bothered. :punch:

[weezer]

weezer

it would not be a bad idea if tin cup did get some money from his efforts.
Maby then he would knock down his beggers tent and go home.

We will see what happens but if this auction does not go off or something happens that prevent fred from cashing in this time , I think it would be too much for him after comming so close to some free money.

But he should leave the Browns alone.
martin II

there is absolutely no reason for your behavior. Find someone else to post with -- you are as dispicable as they come.

[martin II]

weezer
i found a article on the subject. also a headling from another source.i also posted the paragraph following the one you posted.


"Fred Goldman Honors Dead Son By Shopping O.J.'s Confession Around Town"
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Last fall, News Corp. and its publishing subsidiary, HarperCollins, announced plans to release the book and a two-part television interview with Simpson. At the time, Goldman described the project as morally repugnant and said the book should never see the light of day. His family launched a Web site, dontpayoj.com, which urged consumers around the country to boycott HarperCollins and News Corp.


And the Sacramento County Sheriff's Department has written a letter to the judge questioning whether the department has jurisdiction over Lorraine Brooke Associates, a Florida-based company.


Finally, Galanter said, he plans to file a new motion arguing that the entire, multimillion dollar civil judgment against Simpson be vacated because it was allowed to expire last month after 10 years — a claim the Goldman family lawyers will challenge.

[martin II]

But the auction appears fraught with legal uncertainties. Galanter said that Lorraine Brooke Associates, the company set up to receive the profits from the book and television interview deal with HarperCollins, was not properly served and that an attorney for the company has filed a motion seeking to vacate the order to turn the rights over to the Goldmans.

For all

here is complete article.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=3002369&page=3

martin II

[martin II]

there is absolutely no reason for your behavior. Find someone else to post with -- you are as dispicable as they come.

weezer

This is a thread for debate. There are opinions other than yours.
you are not always right.

You need to get control of your tongue and stop calling me names.
Did my finding and posting the article you refused to give the link to anger you that much.

martin II

[socaldiva]

weezer

This is a thread for debate. There are opinions other than yours.
you are not always right.

You need to get control of your tongue and stop calling me names.
martin II

No, you need to get control of yourself & stop bashing the murder victims & their families.:flamemad:

fbg never said she is "always right" & that wasn't the problem she had with you. Get a flippin' clue :cuss:

[weezer]

No, you need to get control of yourself & stop bashing the murder victims & their families.:flamemad:

fbg never said she is "always right" & that wasn't the problem she had with you. Get a flippin' clue :cuss:

I knew he couldn't keep it civil -- it's just not in his character. I'll just consider it a lesson learned.

[martin II]

I knew he couldn't keep it civil -- it's just not in his character. I'll just consider it a lesson learned.

WEEZER

you need to stop calling me names when i don't agree with your positions.

I have not called you any names.

Maby you need to do a little more research on the subject at hand as you do seem to be getting mixed up a bit.

1.The facts are that the browns called freds action a outrageous grab for
money and asked people not to support the auction.
2. OJ did not take any money from his kids.
3. Fred sued the Browns for the debt they owed OJ
4. Oj never asked the browns to pay the debt.
5. Fred said the book should never see the light of day when HC wanted to
publish it. Now he is remembering his son by hawking the book to the
public.
6. When HC offered both Browns and Goldmans money , Denise immediately
went on air and refused to take a penny. Fred was silent.He wanted the
money but the browns refusal killed the deal.
7. Arnell Simpson is president of LB company. It is a Florida corporation.
8. LB is owned by oj's children. Not OJ.
9. A Florida lawyer incorporated the company for the children and he is their
advisor.

martin II

[weezer]

WEEZER

you need to stop calling me names when i don't agree with your positions.

I have not called you any names.

Maby you need to do a little more research on the subject at hand as you do seem to be getting mixed up a bit.

1.The facts are that the browns called freds action a outrageous grab for
money and asked people not to support the auction.
2. OJ did not take any money from his kids.
3. Fred sued the Browns for the debt they owed OJ
4. Oj never asked the browns to pay the debt.
5. Fred said the book should never see the light of day when HC wanted to
publish it. Now he is remembering his son by hawking the book to the
public.
6. When HC offered both Browns and Goldmans money , Denise immediately
went on air and refused to take a penny. Fred was silent.He wanted the
money but the browns refusal killed the deal.
7. Arnell Simpson is president of LB company. It is a Florida corporation.
8. LB is owned by oj's children. Not OJ.
9. A Florida lawyer incorporated the company for the children and he is their
advisor.

martin II

10. orenthal james simpson murdered two human beings: Nicole Brown and Ron Goldman.

[socaldiva]

*snip*

Maby you need to do a little more research on the subject at hand as you do seem to be getting mixed up a bit.



Fbg isn't the one that's "mixed up". She knows very well who the murderer is.;)

[2L8 4A D8]

there is absolutely no reason for your behavior. Find someone else to post with -- you are as dispicable as they come.

weezer

This is a thread for debate. There are opinions other than yours.
you are not always right.

You need to get control of your tongue and stop calling me names.
Did my finding and posting the article you refused to give the link to anger you that much.

martin II

Cry Me A River! I think ALL of us are about as sick and tired as anyone can get of your assinine opinions, your ridiculous theories and your filthy, disgusting mouth! I hope that Weezer sticks to her guns! You need to be held in scorn by everyone on this Board where, in the end, you will be posting only to YOURSELF! :punch:

JMO and MOO!!

[martin II]

10. orenthal james simpson murdered two human beings: Nicole Brown and Ron Goldman.

oj Simpson was accused ,tried and found not guity by a criminal jury of educated, dedicated citizens of LA. They were the tryers of fact not posters on this thread.
martin II

[tazzybaby]

tazzy hi

Fred's judge ruled on the matter about two/three weeks ago.
In most books, The publishers proof readers make all grammer corrections
When the book interview and story first came out, LB a Florida company owned by oj's children was identified as the owners so most people but you knew this.It seems.
I think the lawyer, in Florida, that incorporated the compnay in Florida is advising Arnell.
martin II

Hi Martin,

It wasn't only grammar that OJ couldn't accomplish. It is also sentence structure.

Oh, I knew that LB was "his Childrens" company. I just don't think that Arnelle knew this. Maybe that's why she's waited so long to get in on this. Maybe OJ forgot to tell the kids that it was for them?? It seems that you are the only one who doesn't know that this was all a ploy to keep the Goldman's from getting any money. Why would OJ take the money at all? He said it was all about his kids. But, yet, he takes the money for the advance and spends it all then lets the rest go to his kids??? That is so twisted. Of course his writing the book in the first place was twisted. Why would he get his children involved in such a scam? He should have put the money into the trust for Sydney and Justin. This was their mother. They have had to live without their mother for all of these years. He should have never kept a penny of the blood money if as he "says" he did it for his children's legacy. OJ knew that this was going to outrage the families of the victims. But, he didn't care. Now who's left to fight it out? Arnell? What a great man he is.

:flamemad:

[tazzybaby]

oj Simpson was accused ,tried and found not guity by a criminal jury of educated, dedicated citizens of LA. They were the tryers of fact not posters on this thread.
martin II

OJ Simpson was accused, tried and found responsible for the deaths of Nicole Brown Simpson and Ron Goldman by a civil jury of educated, dedicated and intelligent citizens. They looked at the actual evidence including the new evidence and found that there was no other verdict than he was responsible.

:cool:

[martin II]

Hi Martin,

It wasn't only grammar that OJ couldn't accomplish. It is also sentence structure.

Oh, I knew that LB was "his Childrens" company. I just don't think that Arnelle knew this. Maybe that's why she's waited so long to get in on this. Maybe OJ forgot to tell the kids that it was for them?? It seems that you are the only one who doesn't know that this was all a ploy to keep the Goldman's from getting any money. Why would OJ take the money at all? He said it was all about his kids. But, yet, he takes the money for the advance and spends it all then lets the rest go to his kids??? That is so twisted. Of course his writing the book in the first place was twisted. Why would he get his children involved in such a scam? He should have put the money into the trust for Sydney and Justin. This was their mother. They have had to live without their mother for all of these years. He should have never kept a penny of the blood money if as he "says" he did it for his children's legacy. OJ knew that this was going to outrage the families of the victims. But, he didn't care. Now who's left to fight it out? Arnell? What a great man he is.

:flamemad:
tazzy hi
As i understand it J Regan HC came to oj with a book plan. The plan required him to give his signature of approval and he was paid about $800,000 for this. The rights to the book was suppose to revert to LB in May 07 and if the book would have been sold , the profit would go to them.

I think Arnell knew she was a officer of the company when it was incorporated in Florida.
I am sure that when the book deal was origionally set up, the lawyer knew that it had to be done in a way to prevent fred from attacking LB or OJ for money. They would be fools not to protect their interest.

I would think that LB lawyer is advising Arnell.


My quesiton is can a CA judge give a order to a CA sheriff to excute a order on a Florida company. I am not sure. What do you think.
martin II
martin II

[martin II]

Hi Martin,

It wasn't only grammar that OJ couldn't accomplish. It is also sentence structure.

Oh, I knew that LB was "his Childrens" company. I just don't think that Arnelle knew this. Maybe that's why she's waited so long to get in on this. Maybe OJ forgot to tell the kids that it was for them?? It seems that you are the only one who doesn't know that this was all a ploy to keep the Goldman's from getting any money. Why would OJ take the money at all? He said it was all about his kids. But, yet, he takes the money for the advance and spends it all then lets the rest go to his kids??? That is so twisted. Of course his writing the book in the first place was twisted. Why would he get his children involved in such a scam? He should have put the money into the trust for Sydney and Justin. This was their mother. They have had to live without their mother for all of these years. He should have never kept a penny of the blood money if as he "says" he did it for his children's legacy. OJ knew that this was going to outrage the families of the victims. But, he didn't care. Now who's left to fight it out? Arnell? What a great man he is.

:flamemad:

tazzy hi
Fred has stated that he wants to see oj homeless, Oj intends to prevent this.
Oj has no reason to care what fred thinks about what he does.Fred has been on tv calling oj all kinds of names because he thinks he KNOWS who killed Ron.
Why should Oj care about what fred thinks?

So many people have made BLOOD MONEY on oj's name so when J Regan came to him with a offer for a book deal he accepted it for $800,000. Regan helped in this as they paid oj long before the story about the book came out.

We do not know what oJ did with all the money and frankly it is none of yours or my business.

This is the headlines i posted from a web page yesterday and i think it says it all.

"Fred Goldman Honors Dead Son By Shopping O.J.'s Confession Around Town"



martin II

[socaldiva]

*snip*
My quesiton is can a CA judge give a order to a CA sheriff to excute a order on a Florida company. I am not sure. What do you think.



:rolleyes:

[weezer]

:rolleyes:

Remember diva, when you're dealing with some, you can't fix stupid..............LOL

[martin II]

Hi Martin,

It wasn't only grammar that OJ couldn't accomplish. It is also sentence structure.

Oh, I knew that LB was "his Childrens" company. I just don't think that Arnelle knew this. Maybe that's why she's waited so long to get in on this. Maybe OJ forgot to tell the kids that it was for them?? It seems that you are the only one who doesn't know that this was all a ploy to keep the Goldman's from getting any money. Why would OJ take the money at all? He said it was all about his kids. But, yet, he takes the money for the advance and spends it all then lets the rest go to his kids??? That is so twisted. Of course his writing the book in the first place was twisted. Why would he get his children involved in such a scam? He should have put the money into the trust for Sydney and Justin. This was their mother. They have had to live without their mother for all of these years. He should have never kept a penny of the blood money if as he "says" he did it for his children's legacy. OJ knew that this was going to outrage the families of the victims. But, he didn't care. Now who's left to fight it out? Arnell? What a great man he is.

:flamemad:


tazzy hi

So many people make recordings of book material and give to transcribers that put voice to paper with correct grammer. Some talk to transcribers. some talk to ghost writers. The publishers always pass items to their proof readers to make all final requited corrections. Oj may have done it the same way so i see no need for you to continue to harp on what you think are his writing skills. It does not matter. Oj like so many others went to school to leard how to play football not be a writer.
martin II

[weezer]

I know of at least one poster on this board who would be able to read/understand orenthal's illiterate writings and/or orenthal-speak.

And ignorance abounds: ". . .went to school to leard how to play football not be a writer."

Speaks volumes doesn't it?

[martin II]

Remember diva, when you're dealing with some, you can't fix stupid..............LOL

weezer
I hope that your reference to STUPID in not directed in some off handed way,to or about me.
martin II

[tazzybaby]

tazzy hi
As i understand it J Regan HC came to oj with a book plan. The plan required him to give his signature of approval and he was paid about $800,000 for this. The rights to the book was suppose to revert to LB in May 07 and if the book would have been sold , the profit would go to them.

I think Arnell knew she was a officer of the company when it was incorporated in Florida.
I am sure that when the book deal was origionally set up, the lawyer knew that it had to be done in a way to prevent fred from attacking LB or OJ for money. They would be fools not to protect their interest.

I would think that LB lawyer is advising Arnell.


My quesiton is can a CA judge give a order to a CA sheriff to excute a order on a Florida company. I am not sure. What do you think.
martin II
martin II

If Oj did this for the benefit of "his children's legacy" then he would have put the money into the trust created for Sydney and Justin. Since they are the one's who lost their mother and OJ is the one exploiting her, then they should get all the money. Not just the money for selling the book. He said he did this for the children. He is a liar.

Fred has the right to go after OJ for money. OJ continues to break the law and hide, sneak and lie so that Fred doesn't get any money from him. So, Fred has no choice but to go after him. The only difference is that Fred does it legally and up front. If Fred didn't go after the book rights then OJ would again profit from the book. To keep OJ from profiting once again he is doing what he feels he has to do. OJ made the choice to never pay Fred and that forced Fred to make the choice to force him however he can. For every action there is a reaction.

What I think is that OJ is a snake and he is using his children to hide money. Hopefully Yale Galiar and OJ will lose this battle and he won't see any more money from this book.

[tazzybaby]

tazzy hi
Fred has stated that he wants to see oj homeless, Oj intends to prevent this.
Oj has no reason to care what fred thinks about what he does.Fred has been on tv calling oj all kinds of names because he thinks he KNOWS who killed Ron.
Why should Oj care about what fred thinks?

So many people have made BLOOD MONEY on oj's name so when J Regan came to him with a offer for a book deal he accepted it for $800,000. Regan helped in this as they paid oj long before the story about the book came out.

We do not know what oJ did with all the money and frankly it is none of yours or my business.

This is the headlines i posted from a web page yesterday and i think it says it all.

"Fred Goldman Honors Dead Son By Shopping O.J.'s Confession Around Town"



martin II

Hi Martin,

OJ has stated that he intends to NEVER pay the judgement, Fred intends to prevent this. OJ has been on TV calling Fred all kinds of names and insulting him. Fred doesn't care what OJ thinks. Fred definately knows OJ killed his child. He will make sure to do what he can to make it hard for OJ for the rest of his life. He is doing that for his child. That's Fred's reaction to OJ's actions.

OJ is one person that should NEVER make a cent off of these murders. He has two children by one of the victims. He is a snake for putting his kids through this. How do you think they feel by constantly seeing their father in controversy over these murders? Obviously OJ doesn't care either. The other people who have made money off of this don't matter because they aren't the kids father.

It is Fred Goldmans business what OJ did with the money. That's what matters.

Here's the Headlines from just 8 hours ago......

"Rights To OJ Simpson Book Ready For Auction"

http://cbs13.com/local/local_story_100003401.html

According to the Goldman's attorney, they're bitter about the situation, but feel they have no choice but to sell. They also don’t want the book rights to go back to OJ, who continues to fight the auction.

[tazzybaby]

tazzy hi

So many people make recordings of book material and give to transcribers that put voice to paper with correct grammer. Some talk to transcribers. some talk to ghost writers. The publishers always pass items to their proof readers to make all final requited corrections. Oj may have done it the same way so i see no need for you to continue to harp on what you think are his writing skills. It does not matter. Oj like so many others went to school to leard how to play football not be a writer.
martin II

Hi Martin,

I'm only stating the facts. Not harping. You're the one who continues to bring up the Ghost Writer. I'm only reminding you why there was a Ghost Writer.

OJ went to school to learn how to play football not be a writer? Well, reading and writing is part of the curriculum in Elementary, Jr High, High School and College. What, did he not take any English courses? That's part of the normal lessons.

[weezer]

I read in one of the articles that the Goldmans found (and took) $260 something from some bank account of orenthal's ---- made me laugh out loud.

[martin II]

Hi Martin,

I'm only stating the facts. Not harping. You're the one who continues to bring up the Ghost Writer. I'm only reminding you why there was a Ghost Writer.

OJ went to school to learn how to play football not be a writer? Well, reading and writing is part of the curriculum in Elementary, Jr High, High School and College. What, did he not take any English courses? That's part of the normal lessons.

tazzy hi
There are so many people that go through college and fail to grasp writing skills. I agree that it Seems that the note Oj left did not show the best writing skills and it did give people that want to hang their hat on every shortcomming he has on that bad spelling example.

Lolking at the big picture, i thimk oj accomplished a lot in his life as he had ammased a fortune of over $10,000,00 and was more known that most people. He did this without spelling skills acceptable to you. I don't think
he was ever required to exhibit good grammer by Hertz or NBC or the Honey Ham company or any of the other companies that paid him for his services.

Who knows how many other well known people cannot spell.

Ghost writers are used for their particular skill in putting words to print. Not just by people with lessor spelling skills.

For me OJ's spelling skills is a non issue.
martin II

[martin II]

I read in one of the articles that the Goldmans found (and took) $260 something from some bank account of orenthal's ---- made me laugh out loud.

weezer
that was a account that Oj had received royalties from one of those old movies. I think the amount for last year was.39 as it was a account left bare on porpose. For Fred. According to his lawyer. I would think all of his accounts are low on funds except the ones used for house and normal expenses and the offshore ones. If there are any.
MARTIN ii

[weezer]

most people do not go through college without writing skills -- regardless of what some posters may "thimk" while they are "lolking" at the big picture.

Hertz and the other big companies may not have cared if orenthal could spell or write but they did care that he was a double murderer.

Kind of makes the last sentence perfect doesn't it? "For me OJ's spelling skills is a non issue." :D

[martin II]

Hi Martin,

OJ has stated that he intends to NEVER pay the judgement, Fred intends to prevent this. OJ has been on TV calling Fred all kinds of names and insulting him. Fred doesn't care what OJ thinks. Fred definately knows OJ killed his child. He will make sure to do what he can to make it hard for OJ for the rest of his life. He is doing that for his child. That's Fred's reaction to OJ's actions.

OJ is one person that should NEVER make a cent off of these murders. He has two children by one of the victims. He is a snake for putting his kids through this. How do you think they feel by constantly seeing their father in controversy over these murders? Obviously OJ doesn't care either. The other people who have made money off of this don't matter because they aren't the kids father.

It is Fred Goldmans business what OJ did with the money. That's what matters.

Here's the Headlines from just 8 hours ago......

"Rights To OJ Simpson Book Ready For Auction"

http://cbs13.com/local/local_story_100003401.html

According to the Goldman's attorney, they're bitter about the situation, but feel they have no choice but to sell. They also don’t want the book rights to go back to OJ, who continues to fight the auction.


tazzy hi
I hope fred does get big money so he can fold his tent, go home and be happy. Then maby he will be able to get a life.

Fred is now in the position he has wanted from day one , to get some free money by selling the book on the murders of his son and Nicole.
martin II

[weezer]

I read a post that stated that the money from the auction of the book would be 'free money' for the Goldmans. How sad. How pathetic. Seems to me that the life of your child is a high price to pay. Of course, I can only assume that anyone who would make this statement -- that it is 'free money' -- obviously puts no value on the life of a loved one.

[martin II]

Fred Goldman is now asking people to pay him money for the auction of a book that he previously said should not see the light of day because it was pure garbage. That was when he thought that oj would profit, Now that it appears that he will profit, that same book is now being pushed by him to insure profit for himself.

Any money that fred receives is free money as he did not work for it. He may receive money by hawing a book written by the man he believes killed his son.

But what a way to remember his son.
martin II

[tazzybaby]

Fred Goldman is now asking people to pay him money for the auction of a book that he previously said should not see the light of day because it was pure garbage. That was when he thought that oj would profit, Now that it appears that he will profit, that same book is now being pushed by him to insure profit for himself.

Any money that fred receives is free money as he did not work for it. He may receive money by hawing a book written by the man he believes killed his son.

But what a way to remember his son.
martin II


Bite your tongue Martin. He paid a very high price. The price of his childs life. There is no amount high enough to ever come close to being enough. But, the civil jury did put a price out there. And, you know what, OJ was ordered to pay and he is the biggest low life in all of this for ever writing the book in the first place.

And, no....Fred Goldman is now asking that someone else buy the rights so that OJ will no longer make money off of his dead son's murder.

[tazzybaby]

tazzy hi
I hope fred does get big money so he can fold his tent, go home and be happy. Then maby he will be able to get a life.

Fred is now in the position he has wanted from day one , to get some free money by selling the book on the murders of his son and Nicole.
martin II

Whoa! That's not true. You have false information.

:eek:


His position has always been to torture OJ where it hurts. That's his money.

[socaldiva]

I read a post that stated that the money from the auction of the book would be 'free money' for the Goldmans. How sad. How pathetic. Seems to me that the life of your child is a high price to pay. Of course, I can only assume that anyone who would make this statement -- that it is 'free money' -- obviously puts no value on the life of a loved one.

I agree. It's sad & pathetic to think that Fred Goldman is a golddigger. No wonder some of these people support Simpson. It seems they have the same value system as Simpson. Sad & pathetic.

[martin II]

Bite your tongue Martin. He paid a very high price. The price of his childs life. There is no amount high enough to ever come close to being enough. But, the civil jury did put a price out there. And, you know what, OJ was ordered to pay and he is the biggest low life in all of this for ever writing the book in the first place.

And, no....Fred Goldman is now asking that someone else buy the rights so that OJ will no longer make money off of his dead son's murder.

tazzy hi

If fed is not making a money grab for himself then if the auction goes off and he is paid he can give the money away(maby to Denise for Nicole fund) and his hands will be clean. OTHERWISE---
MARTIN ii

[weezer]

Whoa! That's not true. You have false information.

:eek:


His position has always been to torture OJ where it hurts. That's his money.

Don't you know orenthal would be sooooooooo chapped if the auction brings in a bunch of money?

[martin II]

Whoa! That's not true. You have false information.

:eek:


His position has always been to torture OJ where it hurts. That's his money.

His money. HHMMMMMM

Actually the money for the book is HC money that tin cup hijacked.
martin II

[weezer]

Let me see:

orenthal -- double murderer -- gets the money?

Fred Goldman -- father of victim -- gets the money?

Oh, geez, I think I'll vote for Mr. Goldman.

[socaldiva]

Let me see:

orenthal -- double murderer -- gets the money?

Fred Goldman -- father of victim -- gets the money?

Oh, geez, I think I'll vote for Mr. Goldman.

Me too. That's a no brainer for most decent, thinking people.

[weezer]

Me too. That's a no brainer for most decent, thinking people.

I've been thinking about the auction and I've realized that I don't really care who gets the book and I hope the Goldmans get the money.

[socaldiva]

I've been thinking about the auction and I've realized that I don't really care who gets the book and I hope the Goldmans get the money.

I hope they get the money too. As a matter of fact, I will buy it if the money goes to them :patriot:

[bobaugust]

Rights To OJ Simpson Book Ready For Auction
http://cbs13.com/local/local_story_100003401.html

(CBS13) SACRAMENTO The rights to OJ's book are ready for auction, the sale is just a week away. The Sacramento Sheriff's Department is preparing for what could be a media circus.

The first thing they had to do is find a big enough location for the auction. They're expecting a lot of people because anyone can place a bid, as long as they have the cash to back it up.

OJ's book never made it to print because of public outrage. But now that a judge is handing over all potential profits to the Goldman family, the publishing rights are up for sale in Sacramento.

The Sacramento Sheriff's Department is stuck dealing with the auction because the former publisher has an office here. Now they're gearing up not only for the media, but potential buyers from all over the world.

“We've fielded a call from an interested party outside of the country. We also had a call from a New York publisher,” says Sergeant Tim Curran with the Sacramento County Sheriff’s Department.

Bidders may also include Hollywood studios and investors, but anyone from the public is welcome. All you have to do is show up at the auction next Tuesday morning, register and have the funds to back up your bid. The Sheriff's Department is also accepting sealed bids by mail. They'll open all of them right before the auction and the highest one will determine the starting bid. No one knows how high it will go, but the Goldman's are hoping they'll be able to get a chunk of the $38 million OJ still owes them.

According to the Goldman's attorney, they're bitter about the situation, but feel they have no choice but to sell. They also don’t want the book rights to go back to OJ, who continues to fight the auction.

[martin II]

I've been thinking about the auction and I've realized that I don't really care who gets the book and I hope the Goldmans get the money.

There was a publisher from Canada on tv about three weeks ago that said he would bid big time. So i think fred will get the money in exchange for the title to the book and the publisher plans to sell the title. And people will have the opportunity to buy the book.
martin II

[Kayleighjo]

Personally, I admire Fred Goldman. Though the fight must be tiring, he will not rest in his pursuit to make the killer of his son pay, in some way, for his crimes.

People comment that it's unhealthy, those with no tact or couth refer to him a "tin cup", but I don't know who those people are to act as though it's their right to pretend to know what it feels like to have your child brutally murdered and your lives turned into a public circus that the killer of your child preys upon.

How lovely to know that are folks out there who have no issues supporting a killer, yet get all bent when a victim pursues justice.

Yeck.

[weezer]

*Snip*How lovely to know that are folks out there who have no issues supporting a killer, yet get all bent when a victim pursues justice.

I think it is also ironic that the same people who attack Mr. Goldman for going after the murderer of his son are the same people who scream loudest about being victims themselves.

[martin II]

*Snip*

I think it is also ironic that the same people who attack Mr. Goldman for going after the murderer of his son are the same people who scream loudest about being victims themselves.

care to let us know who these same PEOPLE are?

[sassylassy]

Rights To OJ Simpson Book Ready For Auction
http://cbs13.com/local/local_story_100003401.html

(CBS13) SACRAMENTO The rights to OJ's book are ready for auction, the sale is just a week away. The Sacramento Sheriff's Department is preparing for what could be a media circus.

The first thing they had to do is find a big enough location for the auction. They're expecting a lot of people because anyone can place a bid, as long as they have the cash to back it up.

OJ's book never made it to print because of public outrage. But now that a judge is handing over all potential profits to the Goldman family, the publishing rights are up for sale in Sacramento.

The Sacramento Sheriff's Department is stuck dealing with the auction because the former publisher has an office here. Now they're gearing up not only for the media, but potential buyers from all over the world.

“We've fielded a call from an interested party outside of the country. We also had a call from a New York publisher,” says Sergeant Tim Curran with the Sacramento County Sheriff’s Department.

Bidders may also include Hollywood studios and investors, but anyone from the public is welcome. All you have to do is show up at the auction next Tuesday morning, register and have the funds to back up your bid. The Sheriff's Department is also accepting sealed bids by mail. They'll open all of them right before the auction and the highest one will determine the starting bid. No one knows how high it will go, but the Goldman's are hoping they'll be able to get a chunk of the $38 million OJ still owes them.

According to the Goldman's attorney, they're bitter about the situation, but feel they have no choice but to sell. They also don’t want the book rights to go back to OJ, who continues to fight the auction.

Thanks for the update Bob, I'm surprised the auction is still a go with the pending lawsuits!:seeya:

[sassylassy]

Personally, I admire Fred Goldman. Though the fight must be tiring, he will not rest in his pursuit to make the killer of his son pay, in some way, for his crimes.

People comment that it's unhealthy, those with no tact or couth refer to him a "tin cup", but I don't know who those people are to act as though it's their right to pretend to know what it feels like to have your child brutally murdered and your lives turned into a public circus that the killer of your child preys upon.

How lovely to know that are folks out there who have no issues supporting a killer, yet get all bent when a victim pursues justice.

Yeck.

I would assume that you are directing your post to me since I once stated that I felt it was unhealthy for Fred Goldman to have hate in his heart..

For the record, all my comments towards Fred Goldman have always been respectful, as I do have great empathy for him & what he has endured.
:read:

[2L8 4A D8]

care to let us know who these same PEOPLE are?

Just another one of HIS baiting questions Posters! Please don't take the bait! If he can't figure it out for himself then, Gee isn't that too bad! All IMO! :mad:

[Kayleighjo]

I would assume that you are directing your post to me since I once stated that I felt it was unhealthy for Fred Goldman to have hate in his heart..

For the record, all my comments towards Fred Goldman have always been respectful, as I do have great empathy for him & what he has endured.
:read:

Your assumptions are wrong. I know that you once stated that as your opinion, but yours (I believe) comes from a genuine feeling of empathy for him. I was more directing my comments at people like martin who refer to him as "tin cup" and use the "it's unhealthy" as a negative means to continue his distasteful disrespect for a man who has suffered a tremendously painful loss and who continues to be mocked by the man that murdered his son, as well as mocked by shady little men like martin.

I like you Sassy. Enough so that I would be certain to let you know respectfully if I disagreed with a point you were making.

:beer:

[Jayme K]

care to let us know who these same PEOPLE are?

"martin" comes to mind for me.

[Jayme K]

Denise Brown did publicly state yesterday that the Brown's will be suing the Goldman's for half of the proceeds from the auction.

I didn't catch what the purpose is, only that it will not be for the Estate of Nicole Brown Simpson.

[sassylassy]

Your assumptions are wrong. I know that you once stated that as your opinion, but yours (I believe) comes from a genuine feeling of empathy for him. I was more directing my comments at people like martin who refer to him as "tin cup" and use the "it's unhealthy" as a negative means to continue his distasteful disrespect for a man who has suffered a tremendously painful loss and who continues to be mocked by the man that murdered his son, as well as mocked by shady little men like martin.

I like you Sassy. Enough so that I would be certain to let you know respectfully if I disagreed with a point you were making.

:beer:

Thank you for your reply...:beer:

[sassylassy]

Denise Brown did publicly state yesterday that the Brown's will be suing the Goldman's for half of the proceeds from the auction.

I didn't catch what the purpose is, only that it will not be for the Estate of Nicole Brown Simpson.


Good, they should sue ((IMO)) they are entitled to half of the money...


did anyone catch Denise Brown on The Today show? I missed it.....

[martin II]

Good, they should sue ((IMO)) they are entitled to half of the money...


did anyone catch Denise Brown on The Today show? I missed it.....

sassy hi

I did not catch it. too busy following the other important issue.
i would like to know what she had a say.
martin II

[socaldiva]

*snip*
too busy following the other important issue.


:rolleyes: :lol:

[martin II]

sassy hi

according to this THE ESTATE ON NICOLE SIMPSON is asking for half of the money and Goldmans lawyer plans to figh the motion.

note last line of article.

martin II

http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2007/04/12/america/NA-GEN-US-Simpson-Lawsuit.php

[martin II]

sassy hi

according to this THE ESTATE ON NICOLE SIMPSON is asking for half of the money and Goldmans lawyer plans to figh the motion.

note last line of article.

martin II

http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2007/04/12/america/NA-GEN-US-Simpson-Lawsuit.php


sassy hi

another article



last week freds lawyers said they had received interest from many potential buyers. Now his story has changed for some reason.
martin II

martin II
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/ap/fn/4710773.html

[martin II]

"Winning is nothing, collecting is everything," Cook said. "They have sat by the wayside. They can't run in at the last moment."

Attorney Greg Hafif, who represents the Brown Simpson estate, said the main goal is to ensure the book is never published.

"We don't want to see that happen," said Hafif, who added the estate will bid on the Simpson rights. "The Goldmans want to see this book published. I think it's deplorable on their part."

Denise Brown Simpson, sister of Nicole Brown Simpson, said Thursday that selling the "If I Did It" rights would provide potential predators with a "manual on murder."

[sassylassy]

sassy hi

another article


last week freds lawyers said they had received interest from many potential buyers. Now his story has changed for some reason.
martin II

martin II
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/ap/fn/4710773.html

Hi Martin, Thanks for the updates!

I'm glad the estate of Nicole Brown is legally seeking half the money from the auction ((imo)) they are just as much entitled to it!

and I dont like hearing that Fred Goldman is trying to cut out Sydney & Justin from the judgement, that doesnt sit well with me!


"Goldman family attorney David Cook said Thursday he was going to oppose the motion, noting the Brown Simpson estate has not recently sought any damages from Simpson"

[sassylassy]

"Winning is nothing, collecting is everything," Cook said. "They have sat by the wayside. They can't run in at the last moment."

Attorney Greg Hafif, who represents the Brown Simpson estate, said the main goal is to ensure the book is never published.

"We don't want to see that happen," said Hafif, who added the estate will bid on the Simpson rights. "The Goldmans want to see this book published. I think it's deplorable on their part."

Denise Brown Simpson, sister of Nicole Brown Simpson, said Thursday that selling the "If I Did It" rights would provide potential predators with a "manual on murder."


Wow .....I'm surprised the estate of Nicole Brown is going to bid on the rights!

[weezer]

not sure what I think about the Browns jumping in on this at this point. Does anyone know what actions -- if any -- the Browns have brought against orenthal to recover any of the judgment?

[weezer]

Wow .....I'm surprised the estate of Nicole Brown is going to bid on the rights!

if the Estate is the kids, and the kids are the company that is having to forfeit the rights, wonder how they can now bid?

[sassylassy]

not sure what I think about the Browns jumping in on this at this point. Does anyone know what actions -- if any -- the Browns have brought against orenthal to recover any of the judgment?

:shrug: I personally dont know of any?

But regardless I still think they should get half!

((jmo)):read:

[weezer]

:shrug: I personally dont know of any?

But regardless I still think they should get half!

((jmo)):read:

hmmm -- I don't know -- maybe after paying half of all of the expenses to get to this point?

I think for Fred Goldman, this was about the murder of Ron Goldman and his friend Nicole Brown. People have a tendency to talk about the murder of orenthal's ex-wife and dismiss Ron's death as being secondary. If the Browns want to go after orenthal, I believe they should. I'm just not sure that what they are doing and saying is right.

[sassylassy]

hmmm -- I don't know -- maybe after paying half of all of the expenses to get to this point?

I think for Fred Goldman, this was about the murder of Ron Goldman and his friend Nicole Brown. People have a tendency to talk about the murder of orenthal's ex-wife and dismiss Ron's death as being secondary. If the Browns want to go after orenthal, I believe they should. I'm just not sure that what they are doing and saying is right.

I think since they both lost loved ones & the judgement was awarded to "both" parties Nicole's Estate should get half ...its only fair!

((just moo))
:read:

[weezer]

I think since they both lost loved ones & the judgement was awarded to "both" parties Nicole's Estate should get half ...its only fair!

((just moo))
:read:

Oh, I'm not saying they shouldn't both get their share of the judgment -- I just don't believe that the Browns are the ones to dictate what and where. And, if the Browns want their share, they need to participate in going after it.

[weezer]

Wow .....I'm surprised the estate of Nicole Brown is going to bid on the rights!

I hope this isn't orenthal's way to keep the rights to the book!

[martin II]

if the Estate is the kids, and the kids are the company that is having to forfeit the rights, wonder how they can now bid?

the auction is open to the public. anyone can bid. Pople can have a broker bid for them. including OJ.
martin II

[martin II]

Oh, I'm not saying they shouldn't both get their share of the judgment -- I just don't believe that the Browns are the ones to dictate what and where. And, if the Browns want their share, they need to participate in going after it.

I am not sure but both hold judgements and both are entitled to any assets of oj. but then the judge ruled that the money should go to fred.
:shrug:
martin II

[martin II]

There are about three actions pending in court against this auction.
martin II

[martin II]

I think since they both lost loved ones & the judgement was awarded to "both" parties Nicole's Estate should get half ...its only fair!

((just moo))
:read:

sassy hi

a california book broker suggested today that the auction may bring in $50,000 in his opinion. In a poll of retailers u.s. and canada 97% said they would not stock the book.


martin II

[martin II]

Hi Martin, Thanks for the updates!

I'm glad the estate of Nicole Brown is legally seeking half the money from the auction ((imo)) they are just as much entitled to it!

and I dont like hearing that Fred Goldman is trying to cut out Sydney & Justin from the judgement, that doesnt sit well with me!


"Goldman family attorney David Cook said Thursday he was going to oppose the motion, noting the Brown Simpson estate has not recently sought any damages from Simpson"

sassy
i would think that the browns have a right to any exposed oj assets. For some reason the judge that ruled for fred seemed to have ignored the fact that the browns are intitiled also.

When fred first sued for the book rights his case was tosed out and he filed a appeal. this appeal is still pending. yet the recent judge ignored the other courts dismissal and gave the money to fred.

Arnell said LB would appeal this week and now the browns are filing a new action.
martin II

[martin II]

sassy
i would think that the browns have a right to any exposed oj assets. For some reason the judge that ruled for fred seemed to have ignored the fact that the browns are intitiled also.

When fred first sued for the book rights his case was tosed out and he filed a appeal. this appeal is still pending. yet the recent judge ignored the other courts dismissal and gave the money to fred.

Arnell said LB would appeal this week and now the browns are filing a new action.
martin II

correction
entitled also.

[sassylassy]

Looks like the auction isnt going to happen anytime soon!

next week’s planned auction of “If I Did It” stalled Friday when the corporation that cut the book deal with publisher HarperCollins filed for bankruptcy protection in Florida. The maneuver by lawyers for Lorraine Brooke Associates Inc

Galanter says he and Simpson hope the book is never published. “My feeling and the feeling of my client is that this book should never, ever see the light of day,” says the lawyer.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18109981/site/newsweek/:read:

[sassylassy]

I am not sure but both hold judgements and both are entitled to any assets of oj. but then the judge ruled that the money should go to fred.
:shrug:
martin II


Well it looks like no one is getting anything now :shrug:

[2L8 4A D8]

Looks like the auction isnt going to happen anytime soon!

next week’s planned auction of “If I Did It” stalled Friday when the corporation that cut the book deal with publisher HarperCollins filed for bankruptcy protection in Florida. The maneuver by lawyers for Lorraine Brooke Associates Inc

Galanter says he and Simpson hope the book is never published. “My feeling and the feeling of my client is that this book should never, ever see the light of day,” says the lawyer.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18109981/site/newsweek/:read:

Oh yeah, now that the Butcher of Brentwood has received HIS money and has SPENT all of it, he and his ***wipe of an attorney now say, "My feeling and the feeling of my client is that this book should never, ever see the light of day!" As far as I am concerned, the only reason to make such a public statement is because they feel that the Goldman's will now again not receive a penny of what is due them. I am sure that ALL of you NG Lovers are very happy about this!

JMO and MOO!!

[2L8 4A D8]

Oh yeah, now that the Butcher of Brentwood has received HIS money and has SPENT all of it, he and his ***wipe of an attorney now say, "My feeling and the feeling of my client is that this book should never, ever see the light of day!" As far as I am concerned, the only reason to make such a public statement is because they feel that the Goldman's will now again not receive a penny of what is due them. I am sure that ALL of you NG Lovers are very happy about this!

JMO and MOO!!

I was not allowed to "edit" my post. The above post was NOT meant to go to Sassylassy. It was supposed to be a separate post on its own! Sorry!

[martin II]

Well it looks like no one is getting anything now :shrug:

Sassy hi

It looks like freds lawyers did not cover all of their bases.
Wonder what fred will do now. He was so close.He only had two days before payday.

martin II

[martin II]

Looks like the auction isnt going to happen anytime soon!

next week’s planned auction of “If I Did It” stalled Friday when the corporation that cut the book deal with publisher HarperCollins filed for bankruptcy protection in Florida. The maneuver by lawyers for Lorraine Brooke Associates Inc

Galanter says he and Simpson hope the book is never published. “My feeling and the feeling of my client is that this book should never, ever see the light of day,” says the lawyer.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18109981/site/newsweek/:read:


Sassy
Thanks for the link.

I could not help but notice the interplay between the photos on the newsweek 'FROZEN OJ' page. The look of both oj and fred.
martin II

[weezer]

Well it looks like no one is getting anything now :shrug:

From the article: "Simpson's family pocketed $890,000, fees that are beyond the reach of the California wrongful-death judgment because they were paid to LBA, not Simpson."

Surely this proves that the FL company was a sham and used to hide money going directly to orenthal.

[William Anthony]

Martin,

The above post proves what I suspected and did not understand how the Judge could order it turned over, if it was part of the children's trust. I think Simpson made an excellent choice of lawyers, whether of not it was morally correct, in order to protect some assets.

[martin II]

From the article: "Simpson's family pocketed $890,000, fees that are beyond the reach of the California wrongful-death judgment because they were paid to LBA, not Simpson."

Surely this proves that the FL company was a sham and used to hide money going directly to orenthal.

there is a conflict in this story as Judith Regan of Regan books said she paid oj his advance.

At any rate, if the current story is true , then it does not matter who paid
who as the filing on friday may dash any hopes tin cup had of free money on tuesday. But we will see what happens.
martin

[martin II]

From the article: "Simpson's family pocketed $890,000, fees that are beyond the reach of the California wrongful-death judgment because they were paid to LBA, not Simpson."

Surely this proves that the FL company was a sham and used to hide money going directly to orenthal.

In a book deal like this, new companies are set up to facilitate the transaction/contract all the time.

OJ received his advance from J Regan. The rights to the book was to go to
LBA on May 14 07. Freds Lawyer convinced the CA judge to circumvent this legal process so LB's lawyer has effectively circumvented the judge.
martin II

[martin II]

From the article: "Simpson's family pocketed $890,000, fees that are beyond the reach of the California wrongful-death judgment because they were paid to LBA, not Simpson."

Surely this proves that the FL company was a sham and used to hide money going directly to orenthal.

fred must be sssoooooooo chapped along about now.

martin II

[William Anthony]

In a book deal like this, new companies are set up to facilitate the transaction/contract all the time.

OJ received his advance from J Regan. The rights to the book was to go to
LBA on May 14 07. Freds Lawyer convinced the CA judge to circumvent this legal process so LB's lawyer has effectively circumvented the judge.
martin II

Martin,

Simpson may have been acting on behalf of the trust, and, therefore, although the money may have been paid directly to him it was for the benefit of the trust, which is the manner in which I suspect the payment was made.

[martin II]

Martin,

Simpson may have been acting on behalf of the trust, and, therefore, although the money may have been paid directly to him it was for the benefit of the trust, which is the manner in which I suspect the payment was made.

william

Thanks your insight.

I think the game has changed to hard ball.

martin II

[William Anthony]

william

Thanks your insight.

I think the game has changed to hard ball.

martin II

I think that this was already planned by the Simpson camp.

[sassylassy]

Sassy hi

It looks like freds lawyers did not cover all of their bases.
Wonder what fred will do now. He was so close.He only had two days before payday.

martin II

Hi martin...

I cant stick around tonight I'm just logging in quickly to catch up :)

I have a feeling this isnt over yet, I cant see Fred giving up.

jmo :):seeya:

[sassylassy]

Sassy
Thanks for the link.

I could not help but notice the interplay between the photos on the newsweek 'FROZEN OJ' page. The look of both oj and fred.
martin II

Thats the media for ya!

[martin II]

Hi martin...

I cant stick around tonight I'm just logging in quickly to catch up :)

I have a feeling this isnt over yet, I cant see Fred giving up.

jmo :):seeya:

i am sure fred is not giving up.

martin II

[martin II]

This is a comment by a Newsweek reader.

Posted By: Hier Being (3/20/2007 at 2:00:23 PM)

Comment: I think that they should get the money from the book but the only way I'm buying into them receiving money as a way to "honor" the deaths of their son and Nicole and to punish OJ in some form is if they imediatly turn around and donate ALL of the money to some form of charity that has to do with the protection of children. If they keep the money to uplift their own lives then it's only obvious that it was about the $ all along and had nothing to do with honoring their loved ones. Personallly I'm on the fence when it comes to collecting money from a killer. I think perhaps the Goldman's time would be better spent fighting to overturn the Double Jeapordy rule in this country. That way maybe they could get the true justice they deserve and not just a bigger house, a nicer car, and a lift up in the social class system we have going in this country.

[weezer]

:no:. . . . judging from the writing, this could have been written by one of our very own little posters.

[martin II]

:no:. . . . judging from the writing, this could have been written by one of our very own little posters.

I have not see this person post on the oj threads.
see newsweek article. look under discussion comments and you can see the conversation between contributors.

martin II

[martin II]

"But Fred Goldman said he would ask a U.S. bankruptcy court to sell him the book rights as part of a campaign to collect some of the $33.5 million in damages Simpson was ordered to pay in 1997, lawyer David Cook said."



http://www.tvguide.com/News-Views/Entertainment-News/Article/Default.aspx?idx=790773

[sassylassy]

"But Fred Goldman said he would ask a U.S. bankruptcy court to sell him the book rights as part of a campaign to collect some of the $33.5 million in damages Simpson was ordered to pay in 1997, lawyer David Cook said."



http://www.tvguide.com/News-Views/Entertainment-News/Article/Default.aspx?idx=790773

so what I understand is Fred wants to buy the "book rights" so that he can sell it to collect his money from the judgement? :shrug: :confused:

but yet the Brown family have stressed they dont want this book to ever see the light of day but the Goldmans are still moving ahead with it!

personally I'm not to pleased!:mad:

JMO of course!


Fred Goldman said he would ask a U.S. bankruptcy court to sell him the book rights as part of a campaign to collect some of the $33.5 million in damages

[sassylassy]

This is a comment by a Newsweek reader.

Posted By: Hier Being (3/20/2007 at 2:00:23 PM)

Comment: I think that they should get the money from the book but the only way I'm buying into them receiving money as a way to "honor" the deaths of their son and Nicole and to punish OJ in some form is if they imediatly turn around and donate ALL of the money to some form of charity that has to do with the protection of children. If they keep the money to uplift their own lives then it's only obvious that it was about the $ all along and had nothing to do with honoring their loved ones. Personallly I'm on the fence when it comes to collecting money from a killer. I think perhaps the Goldman's time would be better spent fighting to overturn the Double Jeapordy rule in this country. That way maybe they could get the true justice they deserve and not just a bigger house, a nicer car, and a lift up in the social class system we have going in this country.


interesting points forsure!:read:

[sassylassy]

i am sure fred is not giving up.

martin II

apparently not!:read:

[2L8 4A D8]

:no:. . . . judging from the writing, this could have been written by one of our very own little posters.

Yes, it sure could have Weezer! Because of his lack of credibility and his outright lies on this Board and these Threads, I dont believe that this is a Comment from someone at Newsweek Magazine. Out of ALL of the Comments, he just happens to pick this one, the worst one of the bunch if you ask me. Sorry, no thanks! I'll just consider the source, as usual!

Again, he offers absolutely NOTHING to the mx but innuendoes, untruths, assinine theories and ridiculous, filthy and nasty comments re: the victims and their families! Unlike the G's who are extremely knowledgeable and have a lot of expertise re: The OJ Simpson Double-Murder Case! I am getting so sick of Posters having to correct him because of his lack of knowledge of the case at hand! He wastes more time and bandwidth than 10 Posters on this Board! :punch:

JMO and MOO!!

[martin II]

so what I understand is Fred wants to buy the "book rights" so that he can sell it to collect his money from the judgement? :shrug: :confused:

but yet the Brown family have stressed they dont want this book to ever see the light of day but the Goldmans are still moving ahead with it!

personally I'm not to pleased!:mad:

JMO of course!


Fred Goldman said he would ask a U.S. bankruptcy court to sell him the book rights as part of a campaign to collect some of the $33.5 million in damages


sassy
you are correct. Where is fred getting millions from to buy the book.Maby he and his lawyers have formed some kind of INVESTMENT group looking to make big profit.

martinII

[martin II]

so what I understand is Fred wants to buy the "book rights" so that he can sell it to collect his money from the judgement? :shrug: :confused:

but yet the Brown family have stressed they dont want this book to ever see the light of day but the Goldmans are still moving ahead with it!

personally I'm not to pleased!:mad:

JMO of course!


Fred Goldman said he would ask a U.S. bankruptcy court to sell him the book rights as part of a campaign to collect some of the $33.5 million in damages

sassy
the odd thing here is that in the beginning OJ was accused of causing the famalies to relive the murders by writing the book. Now it seems the goldmans are the ones with plans to put the book to the public and relive the murders without any problem or concern for the Browns.
martin II

[Kayleighjo]

I got a decent chuckle this morning over an excerpt from Nancy Grace's show. On the show, she's talking to Yale Galanter about how she thinks that Lorraine Brooke Associates is a "sham company" and Galanter is trying to justify the validity of the company, but Nancy pretty much nails him and he's not quite sure what to say. A portion of the interview:

GALANTER: And as empathetic as I am for them, there was nothing fraudulent about what O.J. Simpson did. It was not a sham corporation. It was a corporation that was recognized by the state of Florida, filed by the secretary of state. The corporation paid its taxes, did everything it was supposed to do. So the characterization of it as a sham is incorrect. It was a corporation that was set up for the benefit of his children.

GRACE: I`ve got a question.

GALANTER: O.J. Simpson has an absolute right to work. He did work. He`s got no duty to tell anybody in the world when...

GRACE: Yale, question.

GALANTER: ... he`s working or how he`s working.

GRACE: Question. The corporation, what was its business?

GALANTER: The business of the corporation is to represent O.J.

GRACE: That doesn`t even make any sense.

GALANTER: They`re his agents.

GRACE: OK. I know Yale Galanter is -- actually, everyone, regardless of that last answer he just gave you, is actually a very well-respected trial lawyer. And we all had to take corporation law, and there`s such a thing as a sham corporation where the corporation is truly the individual. Now, what is the business of this corporation? It`s got to have a purpose other than hiding money for O.J. Simpson.

GALANTER: It doesn`t hide any money, Nancy. It has nothing to do with hiding money. Everything about the HarperCollins Judith Regan book deal was done by contract. Checks were paid. There was nothing fraudulent. There was nothing surreptitious about it...

GRACE: OK. Let me ask you something else...

GALANTER: ... and that characterization is just incorrect.

GRACE: Does the Lorraine Brooke Corporation have an office?

GALANTER: Yes, it has an office.

GRACE: Where?

GALANTER: It`s in Miami.

GRACE: Where?

GALANTER: You mean the exact address?

GRACE: Yes, because these documents say it does not have an office.

GALANTER: Nancy, I mean...

(CROSSTALK)

GRACE: Where would it be? In his home.

GALANTER: You can plead anything you want in a document.

GRACE: And I`m asking you to prove it wrong.

GALANTER: I mean, that lawsuit also says...

GRACE: Where`s the office?

GALANTER: The lawsuit also says that they have no intention of collecting money against O.J. Simpson, they want to use it as a vehicle to try and gather information.

GRACE: Can I get back to the Lorraine Brooke corporation that O.J. Simpson created? When it was created? Do we know that?

GALANTER: It was created over a year ago.

GRACE: Over a year ago. And when was the book deal done?

GALANTER: Well, I wasn`t part of the book deal, but...

GRACE: Let me guess, over a year ago?

[tazzybaby]

That's great Kayleighjo! Galanter is such a joke. He really, really tries to seem like this is all on the up and up...lol He just can't do it.

I am really, really glad that the Goldman's are NOT GIVING UP on trying to get this book from ever giving OJ any type of profits again. I am also glad that the Brown's are trying to keep this book from EVER BEING PUBLISHED. It is VERY important that OJ never profit from this book again. And, I hope that Fred finds any way possible to keep this from happening. It is also important that the Brown's wishes that the book not be released are fulfilled. So, I wish the Goldman's luck as well as the Browns. I just wish that the Goldman's and the Browns could get together on this with the same objective.

And, I love Nancy Grace. She really doesn't back down and will say what ever is on her mind. And, she makes them squirm. I love it...lol

[martin II]

That's great Kayleighjo! Galanter is such a joke. He really, really tries to seem like this is all on the up and up...lol He just can't do it.

I am really, really glad that the Goldman's are NOT GIVING UP on trying to get this book from ever giving OJ any type of profits again. I am also glad that the Brown's are trying to keep this book from EVER BEING PUBLISHED. It is VERY important that OJ never profit from this book again. And, I hope that Fred finds any way possible to keep this from happening. It is also important that the Brown's wishes that the book not be released are fulfilled. So, I wish the Goldman's luck as well as the Browns. I just wish that the Goldman's and the Browns could get together on this with the same objective.

And, I love Nancy Grace. She really doesn't back down and will say what ever is on her mind. And, she makes them squirm. I love it...lol

tazzy hi
fred and the Browns are working towards opposite objectives.

Galanter did not incorportate LBA in Florida. LBA'S Lawyer did.

MARTIN ii

[tazzybaby]

tazzy hi
fred and the Browns are working towards opposite objectives.

Galanter did not incorportate LBA in Florida. LBA'S Lawyer did.

MARTIN ii


Hi Martin,

I know. That's why I said I wish they could come together for the same objective. But, I'll take Fred Goldman keeping OJ from profiting off of the book ever again!! That's a wonderful agenda!! And, I'll also take the Brown's keeping the book from being released!!

Then Galanter needs to keep his big yap shut! Galanter is the one who is running his head about everything. He "says" he didn't even know that OJ was writing the book. If so, why does he keep talking like he knows what he's talking about? He's a joke!

:seeya:

[weezer]

I've always assumed that Galanter is working pro bono -- surely not even orenthal would pay for stupid.........:eek:

[martin II]

Hi Martin,

I know. That's why I said I wish they could come together for the same objective. But, I'll take Fred Goldman keeping OJ from profiting off of the book ever again!! That's a wonderful agenda!! And, I'll also take the Brown's keeping the book from being released!!

Then Galanter needs to keep his big yap shut! Galanter is the one who is running his head about everything. He "says" he didn't even know that OJ was writing the book. If so, why does he keep talking like he knows what he's talking about? He's a joke!

:seeya:


TAZZY HI

You may call him a joke if you like but, Remember for 12 years fred has been after oj's money and it has been Galanter that has keep fred and his lawyers at the gate EMPTY HANDED.

This last maneuver was by LBA's lawyer and was required to off set the unfair
ruling of Judge Goldberg (sp) of the biased CA court in freds favor against LBA
a Florida company.
martin II

[martin II]

I've always assumed that Galanter is working pro bono -- surely not even orenthal would pay for stupid.........:eek:

Galanter has kept tin cup away from ojs' money for 12 years so mabe it is his lawyers that are working prop bono considering they have had zero rersults.

martin II

[martin II]

I've always assumed that Galanter is working pro bono -- surely not even orenthal would pay for stupid.........:eek:

i am wondering how much money tin cup received from the auction of the rights to the book today 4/17/07

martin II

[socaldiva]

i am wondering how much money tin cup received from the auction of the rights to the book today 4/17/07

martin II

More bait from Martin. Just can't resist calling FB tin cup. How revolting. However, I'd much rather be known as tin cup as opposed to the slasher :rolleyes:

[sassylassy]

That's great Kayleighjo! Galanter is such a joke. He really, really tries to seem like this is all on the up and up...lol He just can't do it.

I am really, really glad that the Goldman's are NOT GIVING UP on trying to get this book from ever giving OJ any type of profits again. I am also glad that the Brown's are trying to keep this book from EVER BEING PUBLISHED. It is VERY important that OJ never profit from this book again. And, I hope that Fred finds any way possible to keep this from happening. It is also important that the Brown's wishes that the book not be released are fulfilled. So, I wish the Goldman's luck as well as the Browns. I just wish that the Goldman's and the Browns could get together on this with the same objective.

And, I love Nancy Grace. She really doesn't back down and will say what ever is on her mind. And, she makes them squirm. I love it...lol

I would of course disagree with you about Galanter, based on everything that has transpired recently I think his a pretty smart lawyer!
but that's just moo..

For whatever reasons, I still think its wrong that the Goldmans want to buy the rights so they can sell the book & profit from it, I feel they are being highly insensitive to the Brown family!

I can understand the Goldman's wanting to see ojs simpson suffer any way they can, but I'm sure they can find another way that isnt hurting the Brown family?!

I like what Nancy Grace stands for, but I find she can be highly obnoxious at times but thats jmo :)

[tazzybaby]

TAZZY HI

You may call him a joke if you like but, Remember for 12 years fred has been after oj's money and it has been Galanter that has keep fred and his lawyers at the gate EMPTY HANDED.

This last maneuver was by LBA's lawyer and was required to off set the unfair
ruling of Judge Goldberg (sp) of the biased CA court in freds favor against LBA
a Florida company.
martin II

Hi Martin,

You think it's a good thing to keep victims from receiving their judgement that they are due? Hmmmm And, you think he is talented to be able to help hide OJ's money? Hmmmm

But, Galanter swares not to know anything about all of this book deal. You can't say that he is so gifted that he helped OJ hide his money but also believe that Galanter knew nothing about it. Unless Galanter is a liar too. :shrug:

If you are trying to insinuate that Galanter knows all about OJ's hiding and lying I agree.

[sassylassy]

Hi Martin,

snip*
Then Galanter needs to keep his big yap shut! Galanter is the one who is running his head about everything. He "says" he didn't even know that OJ was writing the book. If so, why does he keep talking like he knows what he's talking about? He's a joke!

:seeya:

Galanter is being paid to speak so it would be hard for him not to comment dont you think?

when the book first came out he said he wasnt aware of the deal but obviously he is aware of everything since then :shrug:

((imo))

[Kayleighjo]

TAZZY HI

You may call him a joke if you like but, Remember for 12 years fred has been after oj's money and it has been Galanter that has keep fred and his lawyers at the gate EMPTY HANDED.

This last maneuver was by LBA's lawyer and was required to off set the unfair
ruling of Judge Goldberg (sp) of the biased CA court in freds favor against LBA
a Florida company.
martin II

So now the California court is biased huh? Almost 13 years later and the big conspiracy still rages on.

It doesn't matter that this sham of a company is based in Florida (apparently right in OJ's own home). The judgment against OJ Simpson is not valid only in the state of California in case you are unaware of that very important point.

:read: :read: :read:

[Kayleighjo]

I would of course disagree with you about Galanter, based on everything that has transpired recently I think his a pretty smart lawyer!
but that's just moo..

For whatever reasons, I still think its wrong that the Goldmans want to buy the rights so they can sell the book & profit from it, I feel they are being highly insensitive to the Brown family!

I can understand the Goldman's wanting to see ojs simpson suffer any way they can, but I'm sure they can find another way that isnt hurting the Brown family?!

I like what Nancy Grace stands for, but I find she can be highly obnoxious at times but thats jmo :)

I think Nancy Grace called him out pretty well. She had him tongue tied and stumbling his way through the interview. It's clear, in my opinion, that Galanter is very aware of OJ's fraudulent activities and is doing his best to help him hide his assets.

[sassylassy]

sassy
the odd thing here is that in the beginning OJ was accused of causing the famalies to relive the murders by writing the book. Now it seems the goldmans are the ones with plans to put the book to the public and relive the murders without any problem or concern for the Browns.
martin II

I agree. not to mention the book is suppose to focus on the life & times of Nicole & OJ.

This to me would seem more painful towards the Brown's if its ever released!

((imo))

[sassylassy]

I think Nancy Grace called him out pretty well. She had him tongue tied and stumbling his way through the interview. It's clear, in my opinion, that Galanter is very aware of OJ's fraudulent activities and is doing his best to help him hide his assets.

yes I agree she asked him questions that he couldnt answer, I did catch the program ;)

However if Oj set up a company in the names of his children & earned the money from the book with the intent of giving the money to his children, then I dont see anything fraudulent with that....

((imo))

[Kayleighjo]

I agree. not to mention the book is suppose to focus on the life & times of Nicole & OJ.

This to me would seem more painful towards the Brown's if its ever released!

((imo))

I do think Fred Goldman is being highly insensitive, but I don't think his motivation is money. I think his motivation is the punishment of OJ Simpson in profiting off a book that OJ was supposed to profit off of instead.

Again, insensitive but not money motivated for himself in my opinion.

[tazzybaby]

I would of course disagree with you about Galanter, based on everything that has transpired recently I think his a pretty smart lawyer!
but that's just moo..

For whatever reasons, I still think its wrong that the Goldmans want to buy the rights so they can sell the book & profit from it, I feel they are being highly insensitive to the Brown family!

I can understand the Goldman's wanting to see ojs simpson suffer any way they can, but I'm sure they can find another way that isnt hurting the Brown family?!

I like what Nancy Grace stands for, but I find she can be highly obnoxious at times but thats jmo :)


Hi Sassy,

We definately disagree about Galanter. When I saw him talk about how there was no book and how he would go on all the talk shows and blah blah blah, then only to find out that he didn't know what he was talking about. That is definately not a "pretty smart lawyer". He looked like the biggest joke. And, to think that he is helping OJ to NOT PAY something that he was ordered to pay makes him a weasle in my eyes.

The only form of justice that the Goldman's got was in the form of money. How else are they suppose to force justice on OJ? And, when they try and force their only form of justice awarded they are made out to be money hungry. But, when OJ even admits that he hides and spends the money so they don't get it you guys don't even talk about it. I don't get it. I do not think they should publish the book. But, the Goldman's don't have the option of just having it turned over to them. The judge said that it would be auctioned. That's why I'm glad the Brown's are stepping up to make sure it won't be published. The Brown's sure don't help them force the judgement. They try to "keep peace" with OJ because of the kids. The Goldman's feel like they're in it on their own. I feel bad for them.

Nancy can be annoying some times but I like her in your face attitude. I like that she doesn't take the lying and twisting of words. She calls it like she sees it.
:)

[Kayleighjo]

yes I agree she asked him questions that he couldnt answer, I did catch the program ;)

However if Oj set up a company in the names of his children & earned the money from the book with the intent of giving the money to his children, then I dont see anything fraudulent with that....

((imo))

But he didn't give it to his kids, he took it for himself and spent it.

He set the company up one month before the book contract became public. Coincidence? I'm thinking not.

[tazzybaby]

Galanter is being paid to speak so it would be hard for him not to comment dont you think?

when the book first came out he said he wasnt aware of the deal but obviously he is aware of everything since then :shrug:

((imo))

I didn't know that Galanter was being paid to "speak". Don't you think that OJ should have told him when he was on all of the talk shows running his head about how he KNEW FOR SURE there was no book? That doesn't sound like he was being paid to "speak" for OJ about that.

Before the book came out he said he KNEW FOR SURE that there was NO BOOK. And he called anyone who said there was a liar. He probably should have checked with OJ first instead of just running his head. He made himself (or OJ made him) look like an idiot.

:no:

[sassylassy]

I do think Fred Goldman is being highly insensitive, but I don't think his motivation is money. I think his motivation is the punishment of OJ Simpson in profiting off a book that OJ was supposed to profit off of instead.

Again, insensitive but not money motivated for himself in my opinion.

his motivation whatever it may be should not cause harm to the Brown family
they should find another way to punish OJS....

again jmo

[sassylassy]

But he didn't give it to his kids, he took it for himself and spent it.

He set the company up one month before the book contract became public. Coincidence? I'm thinking not.


we dont know what every cent was spent on...:shrug:

He is the sole provider for his kids...

again jmo

[Kayleighjo]

we dont know what every cent was spent on...:shrug:

He is the sole provider for his kids...

again jmo

Yes we do, because he told us. He said he spent it on taxes and bills.

I could accept if he said he spent it on their college tuition or something of that nature, but he originally said it was going into a trust for the kids and it obviously did not.

P.S. He wouldn't be the sole provider for his kids if he hadn't murdered their mother.

[sassylassy]

I didn't know that Galanter was being paid to "speak". Don't you think that OJ should have told him when he was on all of the talk shows running his head about how he KNEW FOR SURE there was no book? That doesn't sound like he was being paid to "speak" for OJ about that.

Before the book came out he said he KNEW FOR SURE that there was NO BOOK. And he called anyone who said there was a liar. He probably should have checked with OJ first instead of just running his head. He made himself (or OJ made him) look like an idiot.

:no:

Galanter is OJS lawyer, & part of that job is public relations...
answering questions when asked from ppl like Nancy Grace & Larry King!

To me the statements just go to show that Galanter didnt know about the book from the start & I dont think OJS needs to consult with Galanter of his every move!

as always jmo

[sassylassy]

Yes we do, because he told us. He said he spent it on taxes and bills.

I could accept if he said he spent it on their college tuition or something of that nature, but he originally said it was going into a trust for the kids and it obviously did not.

P.S. He wouldn't be the sole provider for his kids if he hadn't murdered their mother.

I think some would call that more OJS said ...:tongue:

isnt OJS suppose to be a liar, how can we believe thats true?

but all kidding aside, we really dont know where the money went, it could very well have went to his kids...someone is paying the college tuition...
imo :)

[martin II]

I would of course disagree with you about Galanter, based on everything that has transpired recently I think his a pretty smart lawyer!
but that's just moo..

For whatever reasons, I still think its wrong that the Goldmans want to buy the rights so they can sell the book & profit from it, I feel they are being highly insensitive to the Brown family!

I can understand the Goldman's wanting to see ojs simpson suffer any way they can, but I'm sure they can find another way that isnt hurting the Brown family?!

I like what Nancy Grace stands for, but I find she can be highly obnoxious at times but thats jmo :)


sassy

n grace obnoxious is correct. What difference does it make where the LBA office is. Coinsidering it is a small family owned publishing company the office would be in the lawyers office or a officers home as are many privately owned companies today.
martin II

[martin II]

Hi Martin,

You think it's a good thing to keep victims from receiving their judgement that they are due? Hmmmm And, you think he is talented to be able to help hide OJ's money? Hmmmm

But, Galanter swares not to know anything about all of this book deal. You can't say that he is so gifted that he helped OJ hide his money but also believe that Galanter knew nothing about it. Unless Galanter is a liar too. :shrug:

If you are trying to insinuate that Galanter knows all about OJ's hiding and lying I agree.

tazzy hi
Galanter has prevented tin cup from taking oj's money for 12 years. The book IF I DID IT just came out at the end of last year or the beginning of this year
and Galanter is not the lawyer for LBA.

OJ did not tell Galanter about the book for his own reasons.
martin II

[martin II]

tazzy hi
based on a zero success rate it seems that tin cup's lawyers are the ones that deserve to be called DUMMIES.

Galanter looks like a pretty savy lawyer to me.
martin II

[sassylassy]

[QUOTE=martin II;8842656snip

the auction of the rights to the book today 4/17/07

martin II[/QUOTE]

Hi martin..

My understanding is the rights arent up for auction as a result of bankruptcy of LBA, but that Fred is trying to buy the rights so he can sell the book?

http://www.stuff.co.nz/4029212a4501.html:read:

[William Anthony]

I got a decent chuckle this morning over an excerpt from Nancy Grace's show. On the show, she's talking to Yale Galanter about how she thinks that Lorraine Brooke Associates is a "sham company" and Galanter is trying to justify the validity of the company, but Nancy pretty much nails him and he's not quite sure what to say. A portion of the interview:

GALANTER: And as empathetic as I am for them, there was nothing fraudulent about what O.J. Simpson did. It was not a sham corporation. It was a corporation that was recognized by the state of Florida, filed by the secretary of state. The corporation paid its taxes, did everything it was supposed to do. So the characterization of it as a sham is incorrect. It was a corporation that was set up for the benefit of his children.

GRACE: I`ve got a question.

GALANTER: O.J. Simpson has an absolute right to work. He did work. He`s got no duty to tell anybody in the world when...

GRACE: Yale, question.

GALANTER: ... he`s working or how he`s working.

GRACE: Question. The corporation, what was its business?

GALANTER: The business of the corporation is to represent O.J.

GRACE: That doesn`t even make any sense.

GALANTER: They`re his agents.

GRACE: OK. I know Yale Galanter is -- actually, everyone, regardless of that last answer he just gave you, is actually a very well-respected trial lawyer. And we all had to take corporation law, and there`s such a thing as a sham corporation where the corporation is truly the individual. Now, what is the business of this corporation? It`s got to have a purpose other than hiding money for O.J. Simpson.

GALANTER: It doesn`t hide any money, Nancy. It has nothing to do with hiding money. Everything about the HarperCollins Judith Regan book deal was done by contract. Checks were paid. There was nothing fraudulent. There was nothing surreptitious about it...

GRACE: OK. Let me ask you something else...

GALANTER: ... and that characterization is just incorrect.

GRACE: Does the Lorraine Brooke Corporation have an office?

GALANTER: Yes, it has an office.

GRACE: Where?

GALANTER: It`s in Miami.

GRACE: Where?

GALANTER: You mean the exact address?

GRACE: Yes, because these documents say it does not have an office.

GALANTER: Nancy, I mean...

(CROSSTALK)

GRACE: Where would it be? In his home.

GALANTER: You can plead anything you want in a document.

GRACE: And I`m asking you to prove it wrong.

GALANTER: I mean, that lawsuit also says...

GRACE: Where`s the office?

GALANTER: The lawsuit also says that they have no intention of collecting money against O.J. Simpson, they want to use it as a vehicle to try and gather information.

GRACE: Can I get back to the Lorraine Brooke corporation that O.J. Simpson created? When it was created? Do we know that?

GALANTER: It was created over a year ago.

GRACE: Over a year ago. And when was the book deal done?

GALANTER: Well, I wasn`t part of the book deal, but...

GRACE: Let me guess, over a year ago?

Nancy should be careful before she gets sued again.

[martin II]

Hi martin..

My understanding is the rights arent up for auction as a result of bankruptcy of LBA, but that Fred is trying to buy the rights so he can sell the book?

http://www.stuff.co.nz/4029212a4501.html:read:

Well now the situation has changed. Fred Goldman now wants to be the first to BUY the book so he can sell the story of OJ SIMPSON and NICOLES life togeather from OJ'S perspective.

The Browns want to buy the book to BURN it.

OJ dosent seem to care.
martin II

[martin II]

Nancy should be careful before she gets sued again.

I don't think Nancy wants to testify in court.
martin II

[sassylassy]

Well now the situation has changed. Fred Goldman now wants to be the first to BUY the book so he can sell the story of OJ SIMPSON and NICOLES life togeather from OJ'S perspective.

The Browns want to buy the book to BURN it.

OJ dosent seem to care.
martin II

Thxs this is what I thought, I just wanted to confirm!:beer:

[martin II]

william
i am wondering if Fred Goldman has a position in the bankruptcy court in the LBA case filing?
martinII

[William Anthony]

william
i am wondering if Fred Goldman has a position in the bankruptcy court in the LBA case filing?
martinII

I need to think on that. My first thought is no.

[socaldiva]

I don't think Nancy wants to testify in court.
martin II


Why, do you think Gallanter is going to kill himself over the questions Nancy asked?

How on earth do you claim to know what Nancy thinks? More thoughts plucked from thin air it seems.....

[weezer]

*Snip*Coinsidering it is a small family owned publishing company. . .

GALANTER: The business of the corporation is to represent O.J.

[tazzybaby]

The judge ruled that the Goldman's couldn't own the rights. But, he ordered the rights to be auctioned. Those proceeds go to the Goldman's. The Goldman's aren't trying to "BUY THE RIGHTS". I don't think they really care how much money the book makes. They just want to keep OJ from getting any more money off of the brutal murder of Ron and Nicole. What a slime OJ is for doing this in the first place.

[Kayleighjo]

Nancy should be careful before she gets sued again.

You're funny, and ridiculous both at the same time.

Just because Galanter was obviously put in his place and sounded like a fumbling idiot isn't Nancy's problem.

[martin II]

The judge ruled that the Goldman's couldn't own the rights. But, he ordered the rights to be auctioned. Those proceeds go to the Goldman's. The Goldman's aren't trying to "BUY THE RIGHTS". I don't think they really care how much money the book makes. They just want to keep OJ from getting any more money off of the brutal murder of Ron and Nicole. What a slime OJ is for doing this in the first place.

tazzy hi
The Goldmans lawyer said Fred intends to ask the bankruptcy judge to sell him the rights. I don't know how this will conflict with the CA judges decision that goldman cannot own the rights as you say.

martin II

[tazzybaby]

Galanter is OJS lawyer, & part of that job is public relations...
answering questions when asked from ppl like Nancy Grace & Larry King!

To me the statements just go to show that Galanter didnt know about the book from the start & I dont think OJS needs to consult with Galanter of his every move!

as always jmo


Hi Sassy,

Yes, Galanter is OJS lawyer but I've not heard that part of that job is public relations. And, if that is true and Galanter is a public relations lawyer for OJ then don't you think it would be appropriate for him to KNOW WHAT HE IS TALKING ABOUT? He made some very strong statements when talking about how he KNEW there was NO BOOK. So, IMO Galanter doesn't know what he is talking about. Only what OJ tells him. So, Galanter doesn't know the truth. And, he looked like an idiot talking about how he KNEW there was no book and that anyone who said different was a liar. LOL!

It is very obvious that Galanter did NOT know about the book from the start. So, OJ hides things from his lawyer. I say that because he still wasn't telling Galanter when the rumor came out. He could have at least told him so that he wouldn't continue to go on TV "for" OJ and say that there was no book. Galanter lost all credibility IMO. He's just a big wind bag.

:rolleyes:

[martin II]

"But Fred Goldman said he would ask a U.S. bankruptcy court to sell him the book rights as part of a campaign to collect some of the $33.5 million in damages Simpson was ordered to pay in 1997, lawyer David Cook said."

http://maconareaonline.com/news.asp?id=16964

[tazzybaby]

tazzy hi
The Goldmans lawyer said Fred intends to ask the bankruptcy judge to sell him the rights. I don't know how this will conflict with the CA judges decision that goldman cannot own the rights as you say.

martin II

Hi Martin,

I thought you were talking about the first ruling. But, they have to do that now since the liars are hiding behind bankruptcy. The Goldman's lawyers have to try a new approach. I don't know if it would conflict with the judges decision if he ordered it sold at auction. But, hopefully they will get the book rights and the Brown's will keep it from being published. That's how it should be.

I just hope that OJ loses the book rights. That way he can no longer profit from the book.

:cool:

[weezer]

I still think it would be a hoot for a title change to "I Did It - the Confession of the Brentwood Butcher"

[martin II]

Hi Sassy,

Yes, Galanter is OJS lawyer but I've not heard that part of that job is public relations. And, if that is true and Galanter is a public relations lawyer for OJ then don't you think it would be appropriate for him to KNOW WHAT HE IS TALKING ABOUT? He made some very strong statements when talking about how he KNEW there was NO BOOK. So, IMO Galanter doesn't know what he is talking about. Only what OJ tells him. So, Galanter doesn't know the truth. And, he looked like an idiot talking about how he KNEW there was no book and that anyone who said different was a liar. LOL!

It is very obvious that Galanter did NOT know about the book from the start. So, OJ hides things from his lawyer. I say that because he still wasn't telling Galanter when the rumor came out. He could have at least told him so that he wouldn't continue to go on TV "for" OJ and say that there was no book. Galanter lost all credibility IMO. He's just a big wind bag.

:rolleyes:

tazzy hi

Oj did not tell Galanter about the book for his own reasons. Maby because he knew Galanter did not agree with the plan. Lawyers make PR type statements for their clients all the time. See statements by freds lawyers.

Galanter works for oj on request. Another lawayer set up LBA not Galanter and that is the lawyer that filed the recent bankruptcy on behalf of LBA.

The questions NG asked Galanter has no bearing on the filing or the current status of the case at all . Where the company is located has nothing to do
with anything. LBA was incorporated leagelly and approved By the Secretary of State of Florida so it is legal in every way.
martin II



martin II

[martin II]

Hi Martin,

I thought you were talking about the first ruling. But, they have to do that now since the liars are hiding behind bankruptcy. The Goldman's lawyers have to try a new approach. I don't know if it would conflict with the judges decision if he ordered it sold at auction. But, hopefully they will get the book rights and the Brown's will keep it from being published. That's how it should be.

I just hope that OJ loses the book rights. That way he can no longer profit from the book.

:cool:

tazzy hi
Then do you have a opinion on whether Fred has standing as a creditor in a bankruptcy filing by LBA? I think that is the question now.
martin II

[martin II]

Hi Martin,

I thought you were talking about the first ruling. But, they have to do that now since the liars are hiding behind bankruptcy. The Goldman's lawyers have to try a new approach. I don't know if it would conflict with the judges decision if he ordered it sold at auction. But, hopefully they will get the book rights and the Brown's will keep it from being published. That's how it should be.

I just hope that OJ loses the book rights. That way he can no longer profit from the book.

:cool:

tazzy hi

F Goldman wants to purchase the rights so he can sell the book for money for himself.

The Browns want to purchase the rights so they can burn the book to prevent it from being sold to the public.

They are not working for the same end.

martin II

[tazzybaby]

tazzy hi

Oj did not tell Galanter about the book for his own reasons. Maby because he knew Galanter did not agree with the plan. Lawyers make PR type statements for their clients all the time. See statements by freds lawyers.

Galanter works for oj on request. Another lawayer set up LBA not Galanter and that is the lawyer that filed the recent bankruptcy on behalf of LBA.

The questions NG asked Galanter has no bearing on the filing or the current status of the case at all . Where the company is located has nothing to do
with anything. LBA was incorporated leagelly and approved By the Secretary of State of Florida so it is legal in every way.
martin II



martin II

You're speaking out of both sides of your mouth here. So, Galanter wasn't told for "OJ's reasons" and Galanter works for OJ on request so then why was he saying anything? Why would he say he knew for sure that there was no book? Obviously OJ wasn't asking him to talk for him. And, obviously he's not OJ's only attorney. So, to credit him for "keeping the Goldman's" from any funds is absolutely not true.

And, why are you taking up for him? Just because he's OJ's lawyer? You know as well as I do that he looked like an idiot for everything he said. Why would he still stand up for OJ? Why wouldn't he cease his relationship? Because of the publicity! He's on the talk shows all the time.

[tazzybaby]

tazzy hi

*snip*
The questions NG asked Galanter has no bearing on the filing or the current status of the case at all . Where the company is located has nothing to do
with anything. LBA was incorporated leagelly and approved By the Secretary of State of Florida so it is legal in every way.
martin II



martin II

Not true. The judge even said that it was "shady". That's why he ruled in favor of the Goldman's in the first place. It was created to hide money. that's what NG was getting at and making Galanter squirm about. She did a good job of showing what a sham it truly is. Only a FEW will STILL believe.

:rolleyes:

[tazzybaby]

tazzy hi

F Goldman wants to purchase the rights so he can sell the book for money for himself.

The Browns want to purchase the rights so they can burn the book to prevent it from being sold to the public.

They are not working for the same end.

martin II


OJ wants to stop this so that he can profit from the book again in the future. He doesn't care who he hurts.

Fred wants to purchase the rights because he wants to stop OJ from doing this. OJ is forcing him into actions like this by hiding his assets and creating bogus . That is Fred Goldmans right to persue this civil punishment. The only punishment that his son's murderer received.

You say that LBA is legal and blah, blah, blah. Fred Goldman is in all legal rights to persue the punishment that the killer received. They haven't done anything illegal. They're not even doing it shady. They're right in his face. You say that the Goldman's need to just let it go. Why doesn't OJ? He just keeps on and keeps on. But, if he would have just paid the freakin' money a long time ago and "done his time" this would all be over. Why isn't he writing a book about how he has been looking for the killer? Why would he exploit their deaths? Why hasn't he tried to change laws to "help" people who have been wrongly accused/charged. Why isn't he a face for that?

How much more is it going to take for you OJ supporters to see that he is slime? He is laughing at the world because he just keeps getting away with it.

:shrug:

[martin II]

Not true. The judge even said that it was "shady". That's why he ruled in favor of the Goldman's in the first place. It was created to hide money. that's what NG was getting at and making Galanter squirm about. She did a good job of showing what a sham it truly is. Only a FEW will STILL believe.

:rolleyes:

tazzy hi

You may give your opinion on LBA but to say it is not a legal company in Florida is not true.
martin II

[martin II]

tazzy hi
here is another opinion on this issue from a blog.

"It's Wrong to Censor O.J." (41 comments )
READ MORE: Nicole Brown Simpson, Rupert Murdoch, O. J. Simpson, Brentwood, Charles Manson, Denise Brown, Geraldo Rivera2

When news broke on June 12, 1994 that Ron Goldman and Nicole Brown Simpson had just been killed in the Brentwood section of Los Angeles, countless media organizations began to cover this double-murder relentlessly. Although the reportage has since become less ubiquitous, it never completely stopped, even though much of the attention has probably been very upsetting to the next of kin.

So nobody should believe News Corp. chairman Rupert Murdoch's claim that it was out of respect for the Brown and Goldman families he squashed "If I Did It," the television/book combo which was to have been marketed as O.J. Simpson's confession. The notorious mogul reversed his plans only to remedy a public relations crisis, and because he realized a flight of sponsors and affiliates would financially impair his Fox Broadcasting Company if Judith Regan's interview with Simpson were to air. Murdoch's decision, a shrewd response to a barrage of shallow complaints by influential elitists, indicates no new trend toward excellence in journalism.

It would be nice if the masses weren't so obsessed with O.J. and his worldview, but those who crave constant Juice shouldn't be deprived of their fix simply because the dictators of decency are offended. Yes, Fred Goldman and Denise Brown endured a terrible tragedy. No, their grief does not entitle them to be gatekeepers of public information. Likewise, celebrity commentators who for years profited from this ongoing soap opera, possess no moral authority to shriek in indignation over a book based on the leading man's perspective. Nonetheless, now that he has entered their field, pundits who gladly accept generous wages for producing sordid infotainment and sensationalism, are openly conspiring to deny Simpson a livelihood, as if he is beneath them, and they are official stewards of an honorable profession. What could be more unctuous than Geraldo Rivera, who conducted an infamous TV interview with convicted murderer Charles Manson, calling for O.J. to be silenced in the name of good taste?


Like it or not, O.J. Simpson was acquitted of murder charges. The judgment in a subsequent civil lawsuit obligates him to pay $33.5 million to the Brown and Goldman families, but it does not authorize anyone to blacklist the famous defendant or suppress his speech. Even so, self-appointed arbiters of propriety have managed to severely restrict Simpson's mass communication options, citing his receipt or potential receipt of cash as the factor that somehow distinguishes "If I Did It" from lowbrow material deemed acceptable. Of course the financial terms of O.J.'s book deal are mostly unknown, but vague rumors about an unusual payment scheme are enough for disparagers to insist this project is where the line should be drawn.

Those who now advocate blocking Simpson's revenue source haven't bothered to articulate a standard that could be applied to other situations. Without revealing how the former star might be eligible for income, detractors have announced only their disapproval of him making money from one particular book most of them haven't read. Apparently, these vigilantes are holding him accountable for breaking a rule, but it's not clear what the rule is, or what Simpson needs to do to be in compliance. May he receive funds for labor performed under some circumstances? May he discuss his criminal and civil trials in any way? For whom may he work?

The stifling of "If I Did It" is nothing to cheer. No matter how much the relatives of murder victims engender sympathy, it is not the role of media professionals to censor or otherwise punish O.J. Simpson, especially when the cognoscenti aren't even forthright about the code of conduct they wish to enforce.

[martin II]

OJ wants to stop this so that he can profit from the book again in the future. He doesn't care who he hurts.

Fred wants to purchase the rights because he wants to stop OJ from doing this. OJ is forcing him into actions like this by hiding his assets and creating bogus . That is Fred Goldmans right to persue this civil punishment. The only punishment that his son's murderer received.

You say that LBA is legal and blah, blah, blah. Fred Goldman is in all legal rights to persue the punishment that the killer received. They haven't done anything illegal. They're not even doing it shady. They're right in his face. You say that the Goldman's need to just let it go. Why doesn't OJ? He just keeps on and keeps on. But, if he would have just paid the freakin' money a long time ago and "done his time" this would all be over. Why isn't he writing a book about how he has been looking for the killer? Why would he exploit their deaths? Why hasn't he tried to change laws to "help" people who have been wrongly accused/charged. Why isn't he a face for that?

How much more is it going to take for you OJ supporters to see that he is slime? He is laughing at the world because he just keeps getting away with it.

:shrug:

tazzy hi

Just as the legal/court system is available to Fred Goldman and everyone else, it is available to OJ Simpson. Nothing wrong with oj simpson using the legal/court system to request relief from a attack on his assets. That is the system we live under.

martin II

[Kayleighjo]

tazzy hi
here is another opinion on this issue from a blog.

"It's Wrong to Censor O.J." (41 comments )
READ MORE: Nicole Brown Simpson, Rupert Murdoch, O. J. Simpson, Brentwood, Charles Manson, Denise Brown, Geraldo Rivera2

When news broke on June 12, 1994 that Ron Goldman and Nicole Brown Simpson had just been killed in the Brentwood section of Los Angeles, countless media organizations began to cover this double-murder relentlessly. Although the reportage has since become less ubiquitous, it never completely stopped, even though much of the attention has probably been very upsetting to the next of kin.

So nobody should believe News Corp. chairman Rupert Murdoch's claim that it was out of respect for the Brown and Goldman families he squashed "If I Did It," the television/book combo which was to have been marketed as O.J. Simpson's confession. The notorious mogul reversed his plans only to remedy a public relations crisis, and because he realized a flight of sponsors and affiliates would financially impair his Fox Broadcasting Company if Judith Regan's interview with Simpson were to air. Murdoch's decision, a shrewd response to a barrage of shallow complaints by influential elitists, indicates no new trend toward excellence in journalism.

It would be nice if the masses weren't so obsessed with O.J. and his worldview, but those who crave constant Juice shouldn't be deprived of their fix simply because the dictators of decency are offended. Yes, Fred Goldman and Denise Brown endured a terrible tragedy. No, their grief does not entitle them to be gatekeepers of public information. Likewise, celebrity commentators who for years profited from this ongoing soap opera, possess no moral authority to shriek in indignation over a book based on the leading man's perspective. Nonetheless, now that he has entered their field, pundits who gladly accept generous wages for producing sordid infotainment and sensationalism, are openly conspiring to deny Simpson a livelihood, as if he is beneath them, and they are official stewards of an honorable profession. What could be more unctuous than Geraldo Rivera, who conducted an infamous TV interview with convicted murderer Charles Manson, calling for O.J. to be silenced in the name of good taste?


Like it or not, O.J. Simpson was acquitted of murder charges. The judgment in a subsequent civil lawsuit obligates him to pay $33.5 million to the Brown and Goldman families, but it does not authorize anyone to blacklist the famous defendant or suppress his speech. Even so, self-appointed arbiters of propriety have managed to severely restrict Simpson's mass communication options, citing his receipt or potential receipt of cash as the factor that somehow distinguishes "If I Did It" from lowbrow material deemed acceptable. Of course the financial terms of O.J.'s book deal are mostly unknown, but vague rumors about an unusual payment scheme are enough for disparagers to insist this project is where the line should be drawn.

Those who now advocate blocking Simpson's revenue source haven't bothered to articulate a standard that could be applied to other situations. Without revealing how the former star might be eligible for income, detractors have announced only their disapproval of him making money from one particular book most of them haven't read. Apparently, these vigilantes are holding him accountable for breaking a rule, but it's not clear what the rule is, or what Simpson needs to do to be in compliance. May he receive funds for labor performed under some circumstances? May he discuss his criminal and civil trials in any way? For whom may he work?

The stifling of "If I Did It" is nothing to cheer. No matter how much the relatives of murder victims engender sympathy, it is not the role of media professionals to censor or otherwise punish O.J. Simpson, especially when the cognoscenti aren't even forthright about the code of conduct they wish to enforce.

It would be nice if this "blogger" understood the meaning of censorship, suppression of free speech, and authorization of blacklisting.

Since he/she obviously doesn't, I'll pay it no attention.

[weezer]

tazzy hi
Then do you have a opinion on whether Fred has standing as a creditor in a bankruptcy filing by LBA? I think that is the question now.
martin II

Guess after orenthal stole the money from LBA, they had to file bankrupt! :shrug:

[weezer]

It would be nice if this "blogger" understood the meaning of censorship, suppression of free speech, and authorization of blacklisting.

Since he/she obviously doesn't, I'll pay it no attention.

and obviously does not realize that it was the public that shuns orenthal, not the media.

[martin II]

Guess after orenthal stole the money from LBA, they had to file bankrupt! :shrug:

weezer

In case you did not notice my post was directed to TAZZY.
martiN II

[martin II]

and obviously does not realize that it was the public that shuns orenthal, not the media.

weeaer
the public don't know dip other than what the media feeds them. Without the media reports/opinions there would be no opinions for the public to express.
Maby you have another source for your informaiton.

martin II

[socaldiva]

*snip*weeaer
the public don't know dip other than what the media feeds them.
martin II

Aren't you a member of the "public"? I suppose you don't get your info from the "media". What a laugh......

Who the hey is "weeaer"?????

[sassylassy]

weeaer
the public don't know dip other than what the media feeds them. Without the media reports/opinions there would be no opinions for the public to express.
Maby you have another source for your informaiton.

martin II

umm I read a very interesting quote on my starbucks coffee the other day thats worth sharing.......


A very bad (and all too common) way to misread a newspaper:
To see whatever supports your point of view as fact, & anything that contradicts your point of view as bias.

-- Daniel Okrent
First ombudsman of The New York Times and author of Public Editor #1

[sassylassy]

snip.

And, why are you taking up for him? Just because he's OJ's lawyer? You know as well as I do that he looked like an idiot for everything he said. Why would he still stand up for OJ? Why wouldn't he cease his relationship? Because of the publicity! He's on the talk shows all the time.


IMO- He is on talk shows all the time as a result of the public interest with the case!

[sassylassy]

Not true. The judge even said that it was "shady". That's why he ruled in favor of the Goldman's in the first place. It was created to hide money. that's what NG was getting at and making Galanter squirm about. She did a good job of showing what a sham it truly is. Only a FEW will STILL believe.

:rolleyes:


I watched Galanter on Larry King live recently & it was a completely different type of interview, in fact Larry King said to Galanter " I will see you golfing next week in Miami" I was shocked he said that right in front the Goldmans..:o

[sassylassy]

Hi Sassy,

Yes, Galanter is OJS lawyer but I've not heard that part of that job is public relations. And, if that is true and Galanter is a public relations lawyer for OJ then don't you think it would be appropriate for him to KNOW WHAT HE IS TALKING ABOUT? He made some very strong statements when talking about how he KNEW there was NO BOOK. So, IMO Galanter doesn't know what he is talking about. Only what OJ tells him. So, Galanter doesn't know the truth. And, he looked like an idiot talking about how he KNEW there was no book and that anyone who said different was a liar. LOL!

It is very obvious that Galanter did NOT know about the book from the start. So, OJ hides things from his lawyer. I say that because he still wasn't telling Galanter when the rumor came out. He could have at least told him so that he wouldn't continue to go on TV "for" OJ and say that there was no book. Galanter lost all credibility IMO. He's just a big wind bag.



you never heard of a high profile cases that require public relations?:confused:

I'm thinking of Vincent Bugliosi, Mark Geragos & Gloria Allred..
just to name a few :read:

anyhow, I agree with you & have agreed that Galanter did NOT know about the book from the start.

Galanter himself has admitted that he didnt know about the book & would have advised againist OJS from doing it, as it was in poor taste!

perhaps that's the reason why OJS never told him about the deal?

so I cant lose credibility for Galanter he was completely honest & upfront

but thats jmo....

[sassylassy]

Hi Martin,

I thought you were talking about the first ruling. But, they have to do that now since the liars are hiding behind bankruptcy. The Goldman's lawyers have to try a new approach. I don't know if it would conflict with the judges decision if he ordered it sold at auction. But, hopefully they will get the book rights and the Brown's will keep it from being published. That's how it should be.

I just hope that OJ loses the book rights. That way he can no longer profit from the book.

:cool:

and so you think its no problem that the Brown's will have to go back to court to fight & stop the Goldmans from selling the book?...:no: I dont!


again jmo!

[sassylassy]

I still think it would be a hoot for a title change to "I Did It - the Confession of the Brentwood Butcher"

Now its a hoot!:rolleyes:

what happened to the Boycotting of the book, now thats a hoot :beer:(NOT)