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the civil trial's 'justice' was a monetary punishment for orenthal -- one he has never honored and one that he blatantly works to avoid.
you seem to be a minority in not understanding that there is no satisfaction/peace for grief -- especially when the person you believe butchered your loved one continues to act like orenthal does. Do you honestly believe that the grief and pain of the families is an 'act'?
I think there are millions around the world that would agree with the statement that oprah is overrated -- I really do.
hahaha
imo
I believe he really does think the grieving families are putting on an act. IMO, the acting award should be shared by OJ and martin. OJ for pretending not to be a killer and martin for pretending to believe him. imo. hahaha
socaldiva
10-03-2007, 11:42 AM
I believe he really does think the grieving families are putting on an act. IMO, the acting award should be shared by OJ and martin. OJ for pretending not to be a killer and martin for pretending to believe him. imo. hahaha
:beer: :beer: :beer:
weezer
10-03-2007, 12:25 PM
I believe he really does think the grieving families are putting on an act. IMO, the acting award should be shared by OJ and martin. OJ for pretending not to be a killer and martin for pretending to believe him. imo. hahaha
LOL -- :beer:
martin II
10-06-2007, 02:04 PM
Well, fred has to send oj that 'ROLEX' watch back as it was not what fred thought it was.
The watch fred received was a knockoff.
Wonder what will he ask for next.
martin II
socaldiva
10-06-2007, 02:26 PM
Well, fred has to send oj that 'ROLEX' watch back as it was not what fred thought it was.
The watch fred received was a knockoff.
Wonder what will he ask for next.
martin II
Aw, poor Orenthal has been reduced to wearing fake designer watches? :biggrin:
I don't care what Fred asks for next, I hope he gets it! :beer: I think next on the list is the stuff that Orenthal was trying to get when he burst through the door in Las Vegas :beer:
martin II
10-06-2007, 02:41 PM
If I Did It, OJ Simpson's hypothetical account of his ex-wife's slaying, has hit No. 2 on the New York Times best-sellers list for non-fiction, topping former US President Bill Clinton's book Giving.
http://www.stuff.co.nz/4221254a1860.html
now the boook is no 5 on NYT list and i think 24 on B&N.
If all that has been reported is true, Fred needs to sell overall about 250,000 books to make $42,500.00 for himself and kim before taxes.imo
Or 195,000,000 copies to get his $33,000,000 judgement paid.
imo
martin II
socaldiva
10-06-2007, 02:49 PM
now the boook is no 5 on NYT list and i think 24 on B&N.
If all that has been reported is true, Fred needs to sell overall about 250,000 books to make $42,500.00 for himself and kim before taxes.imo
Or 195,000,000 copies to get his $33,000,000 judgement paid.
imo
martin II
So what? He prevented Orenthal from making any profits from any sales. hahahha
weezer
10-06-2007, 02:51 PM
Aw, poor Orenthal has been reduced to wearing fake designer watches? :biggrin:
I don't care what Fred asks for next, I hope he gets it! :beer: I think next on the list is the stuff that Orenthal was trying to get when he burst through the door in Las Vegas :beer:
A fake AND he overpaid! LOL
"Cook had hoped the watch might be worth as much as $22,000, but an appraisal from San Francisco jeweler Shreve & Co. concluded it was worth only about $100. Simpson had told his lawyer, Ronald Slates, he paid $125 for it." http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5gwXXBU9-InHgXXvu-dN7FNTkDe_gD8S3C92G0
socaldiva
10-06-2007, 02:54 PM
*snip*
A fake AND he overpaid! LOL
Gee, he could have bought one of Fred's books with that extra $25.00 :biggrin:
I see Orenthal is still wearing that dopey visor with a suit in that photo :D
weezer
10-06-2007, 02:55 PM
now the boook is no 5 on NYT list and i think 24 on B&N.
If all that has been reported is true, Fred needs to sell overall about 250,000 books to make $42,500.00 for himself and kim before taxes.imo
Or 195,000,000 copies to get his $33,000,000 judgement paid.
imo
martin II
don't you know orenthal has his panties all in a twist just thinking about the money he almost had but his most hated enemy got! LOL
weezer
10-06-2007, 02:57 PM
Gee, he could have bought one of Fred's books with that extra $25.00 :biggrin:
I see Orenthal is still wearing that dopey visor with a suit in that photo :D
yep -- actually, I think the fanny pack would have finished off the outfit don't you? visor, fanny pack and rolex made in china! LOL
socaldiva
10-06-2007, 03:00 PM
yep -- actually, I think the fanny pack would have finished off the outfit don't you? visor, fanny pack and rolex made in china! LOL
I bet he wasn't wearing any socks either. Such the dapper dresser :D
weezer
10-06-2007, 03:03 PM
I bet he wasn't wearing any socks either. Such the dapper dresser :D
LOL -- yep -- isn't that the argument some of the NGs make about the sweat suit and BMs he wore to commit the murders: he's way too fashion concious to have done that. LOL
This is my selection for Quote of the week: "'It was made by the finest craftsmen in China," Goldman attorney David Cook. . .'"
martin II
10-06-2007, 03:04 PM
don't you know orenthal has his panties all in a twist just thinking about the money he almost had but his most hated enemy got! LOL
weezer
Oj received $1,000,000 for talking about his love life and helping Fujenvis make up a 'PLAY" hypothetical chapter to creats interest for sales.Fred will never sell the number of books he needs to sell so my math tells me that OJ is way ahead of the game and need not worry about this book. It is rummored that he is working on another book but will handle it differently from the first.imo
martin II
weezer
10-06-2007, 03:11 PM
weezer
Oj received $1,000,000 for talking about his love life and helping Fujenvis make up a 'PLAY" hypothetical chapter to creats interest for sales.Fred will never sell the number of books he needs to sell so my math tells me that OJ is way ahead of the game and need not worry about this book. It is rummored that he is working on another book but will handle it differently from the first.imo
martin II
I don't know who "Fujenvis" is or what "creats" and "rummored" is -- :shrug:
I have a feeling that Mr. Goldman could care less about getting the judgment paid from the sale of this book -- it simply means that orenthal can anticipate years and years of looking over his shoulder for the Goldmans. imo
As far as a new book, I'm sure the Goldmans hope he writes and writes and writes! imo
LOL
martin II
10-06-2007, 03:26 PM
I don't know who "Fujenvis" is or what "creats" and "rummored" is -- :shrug:
I have a feeling that Mr. Goldman could care less about getting the judgment paid from the sale of this book -- it simply means that orenthal can anticipate years and years of looking over his shoulder for the Goldmans. imo
As far as a new book, I'm sure the Goldmans hope he writes and writes and writes! imo
LOL
oj has made about $1,000,000 on this book. Fred may make half of $24,000.00 Who do you believe is pleased the most.
Kim should have been trying to get Oprah to sell the book through that book club instead of complaining on national tv that SHE was insulted.
imo
martin II
socaldiva
10-06-2007, 03:29 PM
oj has made about $1,000,000 on this book.
I don't know where you got this figure, but I believe it's WRONG. :no:
socaldiva
10-06-2007, 03:30 PM
*snip*Kim should have been trying to get Oprah to sell the book through that book club instead of complaining on national tv that SHE was insulted.
imo
martin II
Well, there you have it. I guess Kim doesn't care about the money ;)
weezer
10-06-2007, 03:38 PM
Well, there you have it. I guess Kim doesn't care about the money ;)
that's what I was thinking when I read the post.
weezer
10-06-2007, 03:42 PM
I don't know where you got this figure, but I believe it's WRONG. :no:
maybe fake like orenthal's rolex? LOL
socaldiva
10-06-2007, 03:54 PM
maybe fake like orenthal's rolex? LOL
I wonder if old Orenthal is embarrassed that the public now knows he wears knock offs? :biggrin:
weezer
10-06-2007, 04:05 PM
I wonder if old Orenthal is embarrassed that the public now knows he wears knock offs? :biggrin:
nah -- that would take someone with class! :D
socaldiva
10-06-2007, 04:07 PM
nah -- that would take someone with class! :D
That's true :tongue:
martin II
10-06-2007, 04:28 PM
maybe fake like orenthal's rolex? LOL
It is difficult to tell a fake from a real Rolex especially from a picture.
But i am sure it was not difficult to just buy a fake for $100.00 and send it to fred. Some Rolex fakes sell for $10.00 that look just like the one in the picture.
I doubt the one in the picture ever left Miami.
Imo, this was a silly request by fred from the beginning.
hahaha
martin II
weezer
10-06-2007, 04:35 PM
It is difficult to tell a fake from a real Rolex especially from a picture.
But i am sure it was not difficult to just buy a fake for $100.00 and send it to fred. Some Rolex fakes sell for $10.00 that look just like the one in the picture.
I doubt the one in the picture ever left Miami.
Imo, this was a silly request by fred from the beginning.
hahaha
martin II
you crack me up! the picture was taken in Vegas -- I laugh out loud when I think about orenthal flouncing around Vegas with his "rolex" -- LOL
martin II
10-06-2007, 05:08 PM
Weezer
no more time to play around with you for today.
Sorry:)
martin II
martin II
10-06-2007, 05:09 PM
you crack me up! the picture was taken in Vegas -- I laugh out loud when I think about orenthal flouncing around Vegas with his "rolex" -- LOL
and oj left and went to florida.
martin II
10-06-2007, 05:24 PM
you crack me up! the picture was taken in Vegas -- I laugh out loud when I think about orenthal flouncing around Vegas with his "rolex" -- LOL
If oj only knew how much time you have provided in your head for him. He would maby send you one of those oj tee shirts in color.
martin II
socaldiva
10-06-2007, 05:43 PM
*snip*
If oj only knew how much time you have provided in your head for him.
I'd say it's a small amount compared with the amount of time he occupies in your head. I wonder if Orenthal would be worried or pleased that you think of him so often :tongue:
weezer
10-06-2007, 10:22 PM
and oj left and went to florida.
yes he did BUT did he have the watch with him? LOL
weezer
10-06-2007, 10:26 PM
If oj only knew how much time you have provided in your head for him. He would maby send you one of those oj tee shirts in color.
martin II
LOL -- don't be modest -- considering the number of posts you have made under this nic and considering the number of posts you made in your other life and considering your 'time-outs' -- you deserve his t-shirt. Maybe he'll send you one in blood red. :tongue:
imo
martin II
10-06-2007, 11:33 PM
yes he did BUT did he have the watch with him? LOL
you said he was in vegas so you should know
martin II
It is difficult to tell a fake from a real Rolex especially from a picture.
But i am sure it was not difficult to just buy a fake for $100.00 and send it to fred. Some Rolex fakes sell for $10.00 that look just like the one in the picture.
I doubt the one in the picture ever left Miami.
Imo, this was a silly request by fred from the beginning.
hahaha
martin III can tell you know OJ Simpson's true nature. Of course he'd cheat Fred Goldman if given the chance!
martin II
10-07-2007, 03:24 PM
I can tell you know OJ Simpson's true nature. Of course he'd cheat Fred Goldman if given the chance!
tv
i think there is a level that fred should refuse to stoop to regardless of what his lawyers tell him to do. This was a loosing effort from the beginning as going after a mans wristwatch would seem to be a petty effort for some.Whats next, ojs used sneakers or his Hanes?
imo
martin II
socaldiva
10-07-2007, 03:39 PM
*snip*
i think there is a level that fred should refuse to stoop to regardless of what his lawyers tell him to do. This was a loosing effort from the beginning as going after a mans wristwatch would seem to be a petty effort for some.
imo
martin II
Fred didn't "stoop" to anything & I doubt that Fred is being told what to do by his lawyers. You consider a Rolex watch to be "petty"? Interesting....
socaldiva
10-07-2007, 03:43 PM
I can tell you know OJ Simpson's true nature. Of course he'd cheat Fred Goldman if given the chance!
It seems Orenthal didn't mind cheating Arnelle out of her portion of the book either.
tv
i think there is a level that fred should refuse to stoop to regardless of what his lawyers tell him to do. This was a loosing effort from the beginning as going after a mans wristwatch would seem to be a petty effort for some.Whats next, ojs used sneakers or his Hanes?
imo
martin IImartin, it's interesting that you don't feel Simpson should be judged in any way but you don't hesitate to say what you think Mr. Goldman should or should not do. Fred Goldman has never come close to stooping as low as OJ Simpson...thanking Jesus for the lap dance comes to mind not to mention killing two people.
weezer
10-07-2007, 08:26 PM
martin, it's interesting that you don't feel Simpson should be judged in any way but you don't hesitate to say what you think Mr. Goldman should or should not do. Fred Goldman has never come close to stooping as low as OJ Simpson...thanking Jesus for the lap dance comes to mind not to mention killing two people.
you hit the target, tv!
you hit the target, tv!The only thing it seems that people complain about regarding Fred Goldman is that he goes after OJ Simpson financially to receive justice for the killing of his son. With OJ Simpson the list of questionable behavior goes on and on...
martin II
10-07-2007, 08:38 PM
martin, it's interesting that you don't feel Simpson should be judged in any way but you don't hesitate to say what you think Mr. Goldman should or should not do. Fred Goldman has never come close to stooping as low as OJ Simpson...thanking Jesus for the lap dance comes to mind not to mention killing two people.
tv
i am not sure that everyone would agree that there is something negative about giving or receiving a LAP DANCE if that is what you meant.The prosecution tried to convict oj of murder but thanks to the great jury that heard the case,they failed. I know of no other trial where oj was convicted of murdering anyone so i dissagree completely with your post.
imo
martin II
martin II
10-07-2007, 08:39 PM
The only thing it seems that people complain about regarding Fred Goldman is that he goes after OJ Simpson financially to receive justice for the killing of his son. With OJ Simpson the list of questionable behavior goes on and on...
oj simpson has no criminal record.That is for the record.
martin II
weezer
10-07-2007, 08:43 PM
oj simpson has no criminal record.That is for the record.
martin II
not true -- we know he was found guilty of domestic violence. That is the record.
tv
i am not sure that everyone would agree that there is something negative about giving or receiving a LAP DANCE if that is what you meant.The prosecution tried to convict oj of murder but thanks to the great jury that heard the case,they failed. I know of no other trial where oj was convicted of murdering anyone so i dissagree completely with your post.
imo
martin IImartin, you know the video of OJ Simpson getting that lap dance was unsavory. If nothing else, you would think he would be embarrassed that his children witnessed his behavior.
martin II
10-07-2007, 09:28 PM
martin, you know the video of OJ Simpson getting that lap dance was unsavory. If nothing else, you would think he would be embarrassed that his children witnessed his behavior.
tv
i have not see any video of oj simpson getting any lap dance ever. Last year i saw a video that was doctored that used a person with a simular physical build as oj with a naked woman but the face of this person(man) was never exposed in the video. OJ's lawyer has stated that the video was fake.
Now, if you have a video showing oj simpson's face with a naked woman that can be recognized as him that you claim he is in, i would like to see it.
imo
martin II
martin II
10-07-2007, 09:31 PM
not true -- we know he was found guilty of domestic violence. That is the record.
was oj charged in a court and was he given a criminal record for this domestic
violence?
martin II
tv
i have not see any video of oj simpson getting any lap dance ever. Last year i saw a video that was doctored that used a person with a simular physical build as oj with a naked woman but the face of this person(man) was never exposed in the video. OJ's lawyer has stated that the video was fake.
Now, if you have a video showing oj simpson's face with a naked woman that can be recognized as him that you claim he is in, i would like to see it.
imo
martin IImartin, I can assure you I have no video of OJ Simpson with a naked woman or otherwise. When I refer to the lap dance I'm referring to the video of him dancing with those women and thanking Jesus. You know what video clip I'm talking about...if you don't, then you're seriously out of the loop.
weezer
10-07-2007, 10:07 PM
was oj charged in a court and was he given a criminal record for this domestic
violence?
martin II
uh -- yes: "In 1989, Simpson pleaded no contest to a domestic violence charge. . ."
socaldiva
10-07-2007, 10:17 PM
uh -- yes: "In 1989, Simpson pleaded no contest to a domestic violence charge. . ."
Martin doesn't remember this or the lap dance :eek: :chicken:
martin II
10-07-2007, 11:38 PM
uh -- yes: "In 1989, Simpson pleaded no contest to a domestic violence charge. . ."
WEEZER
I know that but don't have any proof that this gave him a criminal record from you.
imo
martin II
martin II
10-08-2007, 12:36 AM
martin, I can assure you I have no video of OJ Simpson with a naked woman or otherwise. When I refer to the lap dance I'm referring to the video of him dancing with those women and thanking Jesus. You know what video clip I'm talking about...if you don't, then you're seriously out of the loop.
tv
I am not sure abour seriously but you can consider me out of the loop on that video. If you have seen that video, can you direct me to it or give a link so i can catch up on what you have seen.
I still don't believe all people would consider a lap dance a negative activity either by the person giving or receiving it. Oj is a grown man and i assume the person giving the dance was also.So what is the problem?
martin II
socaldiva
10-08-2007, 12:44 AM
WEEZER
I know that but don't have any proof that this gave him a criminal record from you.
imo
martin II
He plead no contest & you still don't consider that "proof" of a criminal record?
socaldiva
10-08-2007, 12:51 AM
*snip*
I still don't believe all people would consider a lap dance a negative activity either by the person giving or receiving it. Oj is a grown man and i assume the person giving the dance was also.So what is the problem?
martin II
You haven't even seen the video, even though it was played over & over again. Yet even though you haven't seen the video, you are making excuses for it? That's funny. It reminds me of this guy :D :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQtx5XfQZck&mode=related&search=
martin II
10-08-2007, 08:19 AM
i don't read any of your post.
martin II
Jayme K
10-08-2007, 08:42 AM
i don't read any of your post.
martin II
You must have read someone's post or you wouldn't be posting that you don't read their posts.
martin II
10-08-2007, 09:49 AM
You must have read someone's post or you wouldn't be posting that you don't read their posts.
jayme
I recognize how wrong you can be even if you don't.
How about you trying to post on subject for a change.
martin II
socaldiva
10-08-2007, 10:33 AM
You must have read someone's post or you wouldn't be posting that you don't read their posts.
Isn't it hysterical? He claims to have me on ignore, yet somehow knows what I post :biggrin:
tv
I am not sure abour seriously but you can consider me out of the loop on that video. If you have seen that video, can you direct me to it or give a link so i can catch up on what you have seen.
I still don't believe all people would consider a lap dance a negative activity either by the person giving or receiving it. Oj is a grown man and i assume the person giving the dance was also.So what is the problem?
martin III saw it on television but I'm sure it can be googled.
martin II
10-08-2007, 01:17 PM
I saw it on television but I'm sure it can be googled.
I tried to google and got message "no longer available" But it is not a problem
as i know what a lap dance looks like.
Looking for oj's lap dance i found this.
carman Electra has a video out that she uses on visits to senior citizens facilities where she deomonstrates and teaches LAP DANCING.They love it.
http://www.games2web.com/play-9860-Senior_Lap_Dance.html
i really think you have been pulling my leg so to speak(for fun) as i have concluded that you, unlike some others, are not so closed minded and sheltered to the point that you would be concerned or offended by a man getting a lap dance. I have seen men give lap dances to women at baby showers.I am sure that you know that a very popular craze has emerged recently that involves the purchase of dancing POLES by many homemakers for use in their homes.
If there is a complaint about lap dancing it may be that the woman does all the work.
imo
Martin II
I tried to google and got message "no longer available" But it is not a problem
as i know what a lap dance looks like.
Looking for oj's lap dance i found this.
carman Electra has a video out that she uses on visits to senior citizens facilities where she deomonstrates and teaches LAP DANCING.They love it.
http://www.games2web.com/play-9860-Senior_Lap_Dance.html
i really think you have been pulling my leg so to speak(for fun) as i have concluded that you, unlike some others, are not so closed minded and sheltered to the point that you would be concerned or offended by a man getting a lap dance. I have seen men give lap dances to women at baby showers.I am sure that you know that a very popular craze has emerged recently that involves the purchase of dancing POLES by many homemakers for use in their homes.
If there is a complaint about lap dancing it may be that the woman does all the work.
imo
Martin IImartin, I may tease you but I never pull your leg. I don't really care who gets a lap dance and who doesn't but we were talking about how low OJ Simpson would stoop. I thnk the lap dances falls under the heading of tasteless.
I've heard of women having poles in their homes for dancing but don't know anyone personally that's done this. All the homemakers I know spend their time baking cookies and ironing their husband's shirts.
weezer
10-08-2007, 01:34 PM
I tried to google and got message "no longer available" But it is not a problem
as i know what a lap dance looks like.
Looking for oj's lap dance i found this.
carman Electra has a video out that she uses on visits to senior citizens facilities where she deomonstrates and teaches LAP DANCING.They love it.
http://www.games2web.com/play-9860-Senior_Lap_Dance.html
i really think you have been pulling my leg so to speak(for fun) as i have concluded that you, unlike some others, are not so closed minded and sheltered to the point that you would be concerned or offended by a man getting a lap dance. I have seen men give lap dances to women at baby showers.I am sure that you know that a very popular craze has emerged recently that involves the purchase of dancing POLES by many homemakers for use in their homes.
If there is a complaint about lap dancing it may be that the woman does all the work.
imo
Martin II
nobody cares if the Butcher gets a million lap dances -- it's him saying "Thank you Jesus" during it. His momma must be soooooooooo proud. imo
martin II
10-08-2007, 01:41 PM
The only thing it seems that people complain about regarding Fred Goldman is that he goes after OJ Simpson financially to receive justice for the killing of his son. With OJ Simpson the list of questionable behavior goes on and on...
tv
The problem some have with fred is Initially as he was asking for public support and before the civil trial he said he just wanted justice as he felt he did not get it in the criminal trial.The civil trial gave him justice. Then his focus turned and has been for the last 12 years on getting money. I believe some people are becomming tired of this long running saga as it appears to some that this effort has turned into some long term FRED OJ mini industry for money and noteriety.(sp) Therefore the quesiton now being asked is when will all of this end as there must be a ending to most things. or as Oprah put it, now that you will get some money, "when will you have peace"
as most believe one cannot buy peace and peace is more important than money..FREDS and Kims answer was NEVER.
Which may have been confusing or surprising to some in attendance.
imo
martin II
nobody cares if the Butcher gets a million lap dances -- it's him saying "Thank you Jesus" during it. His momma must be soooooooooo proud. imoAgreed, weezer! I don't know why some people don't understand how disgusting that is.
tv
The problem some have with fred is Initially as he was asking for public support and before the civil trial he said he just wanted justice as he felt he did not get it in the criminal trial.The civil trial gave him justice. Then his focus turned and has been for the last 12 years on getting money. I believe some people are becomming tired of this long running saga as it appears to some that this effort has turned into some long term FRED OJ mini industry for money and noteriety.(sp) Therefore the quesiton now being asked is when will all of this end as there must be a ending to most things. or as Oprah put it, now that you will get some money, "when will you have peace"
as most believe one cannot buy peace and peace is more important than money..FREDS and Kims answer was NEVER.
Which may have been confusing or surprising to some in attendance.
imo
martin III'm sure Fred and Kim Goldman are even more tired of Ron being dead than people are of this long running saga. The civil trial didn't give Fred Goldman full justice. It only made the fact that OJ Simpson is a double-murderer official. OJ Simpson is still free to live his life which he obviously enjoys. My opinion is that it'll come to an end when either Fred Goldman or OJ Simpson dies. Of course, if Simpson outlives Fred Goldman there's always Kim.
martin II
10-08-2007, 02:00 PM
martin, I may tease you but I never pull your leg. I don't really care who gets a lap dance and who doesn't but we were talking about how low OJ Simpson would stoop. I thnk the lap dances falls under the heading of tasteless.
I've heard of women having poles in their homes for dancing but don't know anyone personally that's done this. All the homemakers I know spend their time baking cookies and ironing their husband's shirts.
tv
I doubt that women are still ironing shirts and i think that mrs Fleids does the cookie baking. I think pole dancing and lap dancing is a great way to stay in shape and prevent things from going SOUTH. Most of the lap dancers i have seen are in great physical shape and all have had on clothes.
As far as some sexual conatation is concerned the tango and some other dances as done on "DANCING WITH THE STARS" are just as sexual or in some instances more sexual. As long as no one is harmed by a activity,i see nothing wrong with it. Men will be men and women will be women.
So i say for oj or anyone else that enjoyes this dance GO FOR IT.IMO
MARTIN ii
martin II
10-08-2007, 02:07 PM
I'm sure Fred and Kim Goldman are even more tired of Ron being dead than people are of this long running saga. The civil trial didn't give Fred Goldman full justice. It only made the fact that OJ Simpson is a double-murderer official. OJ Simpson is still free to live his life which he obviously enjoys. My opinion is that it'll come to an end when either Fred Goldman or OJ Simpson dies. Of course, if Simpson outlives Fred Goldman there's always Kim.
I hope it can end before then but stress can cause one or the other to leave.
It would indeed be sad if fred became ill as a result of his quest.
I read a comment on a blog where Kim came under serious attack for her current activities considering the fact that it was said she has a new kid and is showing the wrong example to the child.
martin II
I hope it can end before then but stress can cause one or the other to leave.
It would indeed be sad if fred became ill as a result of his quest.
I read a comment on a blog where Kim came under serious attack for her current activities considering the fact that it was said she has a new kid and is showing the wrong example to the child.
martin IIStress may take a toll on Fred Goldman but sitting idly by watching OJ Simspon enjoy his life while his butchered son lies in his grave might be even more stressful for him.
I believe how Kim chooses to conduct herself and raise her child is her concern.
Kate Sachel
10-08-2007, 03:08 PM
I hope it can end before then but stress can cause one or the other to leave.
It would indeed be sad if fred became ill as a result of his quest.
I read a comment on a blog where Kim came under serious attack for her current activities considering the fact that it was said she has a new kid and is showing the wrong example to the child.
martin II
Undoubtedly no worse than the example that OJ has set for his children.
Kate
socaldiva
10-08-2007, 03:44 PM
*snip*
I have seen men give lap dances to women at baby showers.
Wow, that must be some neighborhood you live in :eek:
socaldiva
10-08-2007, 03:46 PM
*snip*
or as Oprah put it, now that you will get some money, "when will you have peace"
as most believe one cannot buy peace and peace is more important than money..FREDS and Kims answer was NEVER.
Which may have been confusing or surprising to some in attendance.
Perhaps you should look for a transcript, as I believe you are misrepresenting what was said :no: :no:
socaldiva
10-08-2007, 03:49 PM
*snip*
I read a comment on a blog where Kim came under serious attack for her current activities considering the fact that it was said she has a new kid and is showing the wrong example to the child.
A "serious attack" on a blog? Posted by an Orenthal appologist no doubt. I bet they think Orenthal is Father of the Year :rolleyes:
weezer
10-08-2007, 04:38 PM
Stress may take a toll on Fred Goldman but sitting idly by watching OJ Simspon enjoy his life while his butchered son lies in his grave might be even more stressful for him.
I believe how Kim chooses to conduct herself and raise her child is her concern.
besides, time ain't been all that sweet to orenthal -- he looks like cr@p!
weezer
10-08-2007, 04:39 PM
tv
I doubt that women are still ironing shirts and i think that mrs Fleids does the cookie baking. I think pole dancing and lap dancing is a great way to stay in shape and prevent things from going SOUTH. Most of the lap dancers i have seen are in great physical shape and all have had on clothes.
As far as some sexual conatation is concerned the tango and some other dances as done on "DANCING WITH THE STARS" are just as sexual or in some instances more sexual. As long as no one is harmed by a activity,i see nothing wrong with it. Men will be men and women will be women.
So i say for oj or anyone else that enjoyes this dance GO FOR IT.IMO
MARTIN ii
like I said, his mama must be so proud to hear him holler "Thank you Jesus" during his lap dance. geez
martin II
10-08-2007, 05:21 PM
martin, it's interesting that you don't feel Simpson should be judged in any way but you don't hesitate to say what you think Mr. Goldman should or should not do. Fred Goldman has never come close to stooping as low as OJ Simpson...thanking Jesus for the lap dance comes to mind not to mention killing two people.
I have not said oj should not be judged.If you are talking about the book deal i have said that oj has a right to write a book and receive money for his efforts and his name being used.I have also said he has no legal responsibility to tell fred he made money.Additionally i have said fred has a legal right to go after the money. I have said that fred should be honest with the public and admit that it is about the money. I have also suggested that imo it is not healthy for one to hold long term hate and anger in ones heart but my opinion on that issue comes from mental health experts.
Since we know money and anger will not bring ron back i would think that
another avenue be saught for closure if that is what he seeks.
imo
martin II
martin II
10-08-2007, 05:26 PM
like I said, his mama must be so proud to hear him holler "Thank you Jesus" during his lap dance. geez
weezer
why is it that you have to include comments about oj's mama in your post.
Where i come from, some things are off limits regardless of what level of hate
one may hold against another. I believe comments about anothers mama are way off limits and you should stop.
imo
martin II
weezer
10-08-2007, 05:38 PM
weezer
why is it that you have to include comments about oj's mama in your post.
Where i come from, some things are off limits regardless of what level of hate
one may hold against another. I believe comments about anothers mama are way off limits and you should stop.
imo
martin II
hasn't seem to stop your hateful and foul mouth when it comes to the parent of Ron Goldman. Besides, I was in no way being disrespectful to orenthal's mother -- I simply pointed out that he was. imo
martin II
10-08-2007, 05:51 PM
hasn't seem to stop your hateful and foul mouth when it comes to the parent of Ron Goldman. Besides, I was in no way being disrespectful to orenthal's mother -- I simply pointed out that he was. imo
oj's mama is not involved in this book deal in any way. fred goldman is. I think it is disrespectful for you to include her in your mean spirted comments as there is really no reason to do so.To say you "JUST SIMPLY" is only a fake efffort at a excuse to demean her because she iS oj's mother. Leave that woman alone.IMO
MARTIN ii
martin II
10-08-2007, 06:15 PM
Stress may take a toll on Fred Goldman but sitting idly by watching OJ Simspon enjoy his life while his butchered son lies in his grave might be even more stressful for him.
I believe how Kim chooses to conduct herself and raise her child is her concern.
That is what i have been saying about oj.
MARTIN ii
martin II
10-08-2007, 06:28 PM
TV
Should we condem all the women that attend the Chippendale shows. They draw large crowds of all kind of women.
IMO
MARTIN ii
martin II
10-08-2007, 06:48 PM
IF I DID IT # 67 B&N # 5 NYT
MARTIN ii
socaldiva
10-08-2007, 08:18 PM
oj's mama is not involved in this book deal in any way. fred goldman is. I think it is disrespectful for you to include her in your mean spirted comments as there is really no reason to do so.To say you "JUST SIMPLY" is only a fake efffort at a excuse to demean her because she iS oj's mother. Leave that woman alone.IMO
MARTIN ii
Good grief! FBG posted nothing disrespectful about Simpson's Mother. Why don't you read it again? :rolleyes:
martin II
10-08-2007, 09:24 PM
i don't read your post
martin II
weezer
10-08-2007, 09:43 PM
i don't read your post
martin II
:shrug: whatever this means. . .
socaldiva
10-08-2007, 09:45 PM
:shrug: whatever this means. . .
I think he's claiming once again to have me on ignore ;)
weezer
10-08-2007, 09:54 PM
I think he's claiming once again to have me on ignore ;)
so maybe he's psychic since he 'somehow' knew you had posted. LOL
socaldiva
10-08-2007, 10:08 PM
so maybe he's psychic since he 'somehow' knew you had posted. LOL
Well he must be super psychic if he "knew" the post was directed at him :D
martin II
10-09-2007, 02:45 PM
JOTUN
Since Fred received the book title as a result of the judgement against oj to sell for money to satisfy the judgement, then it seems that all money from the sale of the book is to be deducted from the judgement amount (33 mil)
agains oj.imo
martin II
Jayme K
10-09-2007, 02:48 PM
JOTUN
Since Fred received the book title as a result of the judgement against oj to sell for money to satisfy the judgement, then it seems that all money from the sale of the book is to be deducted from the judgement amount (33 mil)
agains oj.imo
martin II
Far more than 33 mil now with all the interest accrual.
WarmNCozy
10-09-2007, 03:08 PM
I believe he really does think the grieving families are putting on an act. IMO, the acting award should be shared by OJ and martin. OJ for pretending not to be a killer and martin for pretending to believe him. imo. hahaha
Add me to the list, because I don't think OJ killed them.
martin II
10-09-2007, 04:43 PM
Far more than 33 mil now with all the interest accrual.
how much is it now?
martinii
Jayme K
10-09-2007, 05:03 PM
how much is it now?
martinii
Approximately an additional 7 million.
martin II
10-09-2007, 05:40 PM
Approximately an additional 7 million.
All
I don't know if that is the number or not but If that is true, that is why the judgement will never be paid off.Which is why i have suggested that fred's lawyers should have accepted some kind of settlement between the parties.Oj will never be able to pay that amount as long as he is black balled from making money in his chosen area of work.
imo
martin II
TV
Should we condem all the women that attend the Chippendale shows. They draw large crowds of all kind of women.
IMO
MARTIN iiFor crying out loud, martin! The fact that OJ Simpson knew he was being taped, knew everyone would see it including his children and yelled out "thank you Jesus!" sets this apart. It was undignified and tasteless.
Add me to the list, because I don't think OJ killed them.You're pretending to believe him too? I'll put you in the running for next year's award.
martin II
10-09-2007, 07:15 PM
For crying out loud, martin! The fact that OJ Simpson knew he was being taped, knew everyone would see it including his children and yelled out "thank you Jesus!" sets this apart. It was undignified and tasteless.
tv
i have heard people say'Thank you jesus" when getting out of some jam or winning the lottery type occurance.Chippendale events have been shown on national tv.I don't think people look at lap dances the way some do today.
Martin II
socaldiva
10-09-2007, 07:58 PM
*snip*
I don't think people look at lap dances the way some do today.
Martin II
The meaning of lap dances has changed & so has the Black Power Salute?
HAHAHA
weezer
10-09-2007, 08:05 PM
The meaning of lap dances has changed & so has the Black Power Salute?
HAHAHA
LOL -- now don't rush to judgment -- you have to remember, they also have lap dances at baby showers where some posters live.
HAHAHA
weezer
10-09-2007, 08:07 PM
You're pretending to believe him too? I'll put you in the running for next year's award.
I don't think you have to wait until next year. I think you can just say, "Here's your sign." :tongue:
socaldiva
10-09-2007, 08:15 PM
LOL -- now don't rush to judgment -- you have to remember, they also have lap dances at baby showers where some posters live.
HAHAHA
:D I hope the honoree of the baby shower isn't getting the lap dance :eek:
WarmNCozy
10-09-2007, 08:21 PM
You're pretending to believe him too? I'll put you in the running for next year's award.
Thank you, I would be pleased to accept the award on behalf of all innocent people!
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socaldiva
10-09-2007, 08:24 PM
Thank you, I would be pleased to accept the award on behalf of all innocent people!
Then it might be wise to represent someone who is innocent, rather than OJ :patriot: :D :shrug:
WarmNCozy
10-09-2007, 08:35 PM
Then it might be wise to represent someone who is innocent, rather than OJ :patriot: :D :shrug:
I agree to disagree!:rose: ;) :cool: :rolleyes: :eek: :D:hat:
weezer
10-09-2007, 08:54 PM
New York Times Best Sellers List:
5. IF I DID IT
it can be found in the non-fiction section
WarmNCozy
10-09-2007, 08:55 PM
New York Times Best Sellers List:
5. IF I DID IT
it can be found in the non-fiction section
Only because Fred took over the profits and changed the name to I DID IT!
weezer
10-09-2007, 09:05 PM
Only because Fred took over the profits and changed the name to I DID IT!
not one word, punctuation, sentence, scenario or title was changed.
martin II
10-09-2007, 09:44 PM
Thank you, I would be pleased to accept the award on behalf of all innocent people!
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Beautiful
:beer: :beer: :beer:
martin II
10-09-2007, 09:48 PM
not one word, punctuation, sentence, scenario or title was changed.
fred used soms slick graphics work . Using very small fonts for the word if.
The cover was completely redone so the shelf presentation of the book has changed plus oj's book did not have any text from fred and his buddies.So it is a different book completely. the cover states this book is by fred goldman.
imo
martin II
weezer
10-09-2007, 09:51 PM
tv, don't order that sign yet -- it looks like you'll need two. :tongue:
weezer
10-09-2007, 09:54 PM
fred used soms slick graphics work . Using very small fonts for the word if.
The cover was completely redone so the shelf presentation of the book has changed plus oj's book did not have any text from fred and his buddies.So it is a different book completely. the cover states this book is by fred goldman.
imo
martin II
the book is listed as "If I Did It" and can be found in the non-fiction section. Not one word, sentence, punctuation, scenario or title was changed in the 'story' orenthal told.
fred used soms slick graphics work . Using very small fonts for the word if.
The cover was completely redone so the shelf presentation of the book has changed plus oj's book did not have any text from fred and his buddies.So it is a different book completely. the cover states this book is by fred goldman.
imo
martin IIIt is NOT a different book completely.
martin II
10-09-2007, 09:54 PM
LOL -- now don't rush to judgment -- you have to remember, they also have lap dances at baby showers where some posters live.
HAHAHA
yep, baby showers.See how much you don't know about other people.imo
martin II
martin II
10-09-2007, 09:55 PM
It is NOT a different book completely.
Well, half a completely new book.
martin II
Beautiful
:beer: :beer: :beer:martin, you're easily impressed. :rolleyes:
martin II
10-09-2007, 10:01 PM
tv
how about
lifted words from a original book by oj simpson and added opinions by fred goldman and a few of his friends to make a new book by fred goldman.
martin II
weezer
10-09-2007, 10:03 PM
yep, baby showers.See how much you don't know about other people.imo
martin II
LOL -- you just get over your bad self martin -- LOL
martin II
10-09-2007, 10:04 PM
martin, you're easily impressed. :rolleyes:
I doubt that but i do recognize beauty when i see it by picture or words.
martin II
tv
how about
lifted words from a original book by oj simpson and added opinions by fred goldman and a few of his friends to make a new book by fred goldman.
martin IINot quite. How about added commentary by Fred Goldman to an original book by OJ Simpson? It's not excerpts from the original; all the text by OJ Simpson is still there.
weezer
10-09-2007, 10:05 PM
tv
how about
lifted words from a original book by oj simpson and added opinions by fred goldman and a few of his friends to make a new book by fred goldman.
martin II
the book is listed as "If I Did It" and can be found in the non-fiction section. Not one word, sentence, punctuation, scenario or title was changed in the 'story' orenthal told.
martin II
10-09-2007, 10:09 PM
i don't think fred is going to be too pleased when he gets the final tally on this book.
martin II
i don't think fred is going to be too pleased when he gets the final tally on this book.
martin IIWhen are you going to understand it's not about the money?
weezer
10-09-2007, 10:17 PM
I think the Goldmans are getting exactly what they hoped for: orenthal's written confession for all the world to read AND no money going into the pockets of the murderer and his co-conspirator. imo
martin II
10-09-2007, 10:20 PM
Not quite. How about added commentary by Fred Goldman to an original book by OJ Simpson? It's not excerpts from the original; all the text by OJ Simpson is still there.
tv
How about comments by fred to a original now cancelled book by oj simpson without Mr simpsons concent, original cover, picture or signature.
martin II
martin II
10-09-2007, 10:22 PM
When are you going to understand it's not about the money?
No way you can look at freds actions and come to that conclusion unless you are just kidding and having fun or pretending.
martin II
tv
How about comments by fred to a original now cancelled book by oj simpson without Mr simpsons concent, original cover, picture or signature.
martin IINope. I like my version better.
No way you can look at freds actions and come to that conclusion unless you are just kidding and having fun or pretending.
martin IIYou mean like all the fun you have kidding around and pretending that OJ Simspon isn't a double-murderer? No, I see a grieving father and nothing more.
martin II
10-09-2007, 10:24 PM
When are you going to understand it's not about the money?
Then the red cross will be pleased to receive his .17 cents per book.
martin II
weezer
10-09-2007, 10:24 PM
Nope. I like my version better.
:beer: :beer: :beer:
martin II
10-09-2007, 10:27 PM
You mean like all the fun you have kidding around and pretending that OJ Simspon isn't a double-murderer? No, I see a grieving father and nothing more.
tv
Grieving does not have to have a money grabbing effort unless it is fred doing the grieving. Then money is required.
martin II
martin II
10-09-2007, 10:29 PM
Nope. I like my version better.
tv
ok but my version is factual.
martin II
weezer
10-09-2007, 10:31 PM
tv
Grieving does not have to have a money grabbing effort unless it is fred doing the grieving. Then money is required.
martin II
this was a mean-spirited and hateful post! I cannot understand how you can believe that the person found responsible for a double murder should put money in his and his co-conspirator's pockets by writing a confession but blast the families for insisting that the murderer pay what a court of law has ordered. Sad. Very, very sad. :shrug:
weezer
10-09-2007, 10:33 PM
tv
ok but my version is factual.
martin II
nah -- your version lacks credibility.
this was a mean-spirited and hateful post! I cannot understand how you can believe that the person found responsible for a double murder should put money in his and his co-conspirator's pockets by writing a confession but blast the families for insisting that the murderer pay what a court of law has ordered. Sad. Very, very sad. :shrug:
Agree, weezer. Very sad. :(
socaldiva
10-09-2007, 10:42 PM
Then the red cross will be pleased to receive his .17 cents per book.
martin II
Then Fred will be 17 cents ahead of Orenthal's charity donations ;)
Then Fred will be 17 cents ahead of Orenthal's charity donations ;):beer: :beer: :beer:
socaldiva
10-09-2007, 10:48 PM
*snip*
Grieving does not have to have a money grabbing effort unless it is fred doing the grieving. Then money is required.
Your posts about Fred are truly sickening. I guess you, like OJ, translate everything into $$.
Orenthal's constantly making "money grabbing efforts" & I've yet to see him grieve for either of the victims, I've only seen him make jokes & disparage them. Just like you do.
martin II
10-09-2007, 11:22 PM
this was a mean-spirited and hateful post! I cannot understand how you can believe that the person found responsible for a double murder should put money in his and his co-conspirator's pockets by writing a confession but blast the families for insisting that the murderer pay what a court of law has ordered. Sad. Very, very sad. :shrug:
weezer
Oj broke no law by writing his book.He has a right to write as many books as he pleases to make money. The same as fred has a right to sell his book, now that he has the rights, to make money. The fact that you don't understand these facts may indicates how difficult it is for you to understand some issues that you don't agree with. But i cannot help you with that.imo
martin II
martin II
martin II
10-09-2007, 11:24 PM
nah -- your version lacks credibility.
Your opinion of credibility is not required when facts are present.imo
martin II
weezer
Oj broke no law by writing his book.He has a right to write as many books as he pleases to make money. The same as fred has a right to sell his book, now that he has the rights, to make money. The fact that you don't understand these facts may indicates how difficult it is for you to understand some issues that you don't agree with. But i cannot help you with that.imo
martin II
martin IIIf it's all "legal" why do you constantly bash Fred Goldman and give OJ Simpson a pass?
martin II
10-09-2007, 11:44 PM
If it's all "legal" why do you constantly bash Fred Goldman and give OJ Simpson a pass?
my beef with fred is he has changed his motive for his effort and his opinnion of the book. That he pretends that it is not about the money but in fact it is about the money. That he complains about oj writing the book about the death of his wife and then he fights for 12 years to get the title of the book so he can sell the book for money about the death of his son.
Some have said that he is interested in being able to live the life of a ca millionair with a bigger house and 2-3 more cars. I can understand how some can come to that opinion based on his actions to make money from this book.
I also don't agree with how he has cut the estate of nicole out of a equal share of the money.Nicole had just as much worth as ron. imo
martin II
socaldiva
10-10-2007, 01:38 AM
my beef with fred is he has changed his motive for his effort and his opinnion of the book. That he pretends that it is not about the money but in fact it is about the money. That he complains about oj writing the book about the death of his wife and then he fights for 12 years to get the title of the book so he can sell the book for money about the death of his son.Some have said that he is interested in being able to live the life of a ca millionair with a bigger house and 2-3 more cars. I can understand how some can come to that opinion based on his actions to make money from this book.
I also don't agree with how he has cut the estate of nicole out of a equal share of the money.Nicole had just as much worth as ron. imo
martin II
Huh? The book wasn't written 12 yrs ago, so how could he fight for the title for 12 yrs?
If Fred was a man preoccupied with money, I seriously doubt he would have opted to be a single Dad to Ron & Kim. I'm sure it would have been cheaper & easier to have their Mom raise them.
I've never heard any such thing, by "some" do you mean yourself?
If Fred were preoccupied with money, I doubt he would have opted to be a single Dad to Ron & Kim. I bet it would have been cheaper & easier to have left them with their Mom. I think Fred is a man of principle.
my beef with fred is he has changed his motive for his effort and his opinnion of the book. That he pretends that it is not about the money but in fact it is about the money. That he complains about oj writing the book about the death of his wife and then he fights for 12 years to get the title of the book so he can sell the book for money about the death of his son.
Some have said that he is interested in being able to live the life of a ca millionair with a bigger house and 2-3 more cars. I can understand how some can come to that opinion based on his actions to make money from this book.
I also don't agree with how he has cut the estate of nicole out of a equal share of the money.Nicole had just as much worth as ron. imo
martin IIIt's funny you seem so concerned about Nicole and her family. I seem to recall that you feel that Nicole didn't bring anything to the marriage and that she "jumped onto" Simpson's life and career.
Who are these "some"? Do you have proof or is it only your opinion that he wants to be a millionaire?
socaldiva
10-10-2007, 02:27 AM
*snip*
Who are these "some"? Do you have proof or is it only your opinion that he wants to be a millionaire?
Fred lives in Arizona & has two jobs. So much for the belief that he wants to "be a California millionaire" :tongue:
martin II
10-10-2007, 02:38 AM
It's funny you seem so concerned about Nicole and her family. I seem to recall that you feel that Nicole didn't bring anything to the marriage and that she "jumped onto" Simpson's life and career.
Who are these "some"? Do you have proof or is it only your opinion that he wants to be a millionaire?
Nicole jumping onto ojs life has nothing to do with her being dead or freds refusal to share with her children a equal share through the nicoloe estate so don't even go there. She had just as much value to her family as ron did to fred even if you dissagree.
I read opinions on various media blogs but cannot post them here. But if you are interested in some anti fred opinions go back to denise's site.
The millionair comment was a comment of another person on another site so yes Some do exist.imo
martin II
socaldiva
10-10-2007, 02:41 AM
*snip*
The millionair comment was a comment of another person on another site so yes Some do exist.imo
Yes & they are so ignorant they think Fred still lives in California. I think it is obvious to all of us that there are plenty of oddballs in the world, most of us just don't take their opinions seriously ;) Why is it that you are frequently quoting bloggers as though they are experts or the majority?
Nicole jumping onto ojs life has nothing to do with her being dead or freds refusal to share with her children a equal share through the nicoloe estate so don't even go there. She had just as much value to her family as ron did to fred even if you dissagree.
I read opinions on various media blogs but cannot post them here. But if you are interested in some anti fred opinions go back to denise's site.
The millionair comment was a comment of another person on another site so yes Some do exist.imo
martin IIStop putting words in my mouth. When did I say that Nicole didn't have the same value to her family that Ron did? You are the Nicole basher, not me.
Oh, a blogger. :rolleyes: I thought you were going to offer some real proof this time.
Heyes
10-10-2007, 08:24 PM
I don't think you have to wait until next year. I think you can just say, "Here's your sign." :tongue:
HA HA HA HA HA ya caught me off guard with that one. TOOO FUNNY!
Here's your sign. lol lol lol
Riviera
10-10-2007, 09:10 PM
Closing this thread and starting part 2
Thank you
R
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