Discussion Thread .... Week of 10/1 [Archive] - Page 3

Watership Down

10-09-2006, 03:09 PM

Originally posted by SukiJane

How much effort does it take to type three letters at the end of a post. To me, it shows respect for other posters. In my opinion, when one doesn't do this and they rely on something in their profile it shows that they are being rebellious and going against proper ettiquette on this board.

jmo

FW hasn't had a problem with it so I don't know why you do. Many people on this entire board put it in their location for various reasons. It has nothing to do with rebellion but please continue to leap to conclusions. :rolleyes:

julianella

10-09-2006, 03:10 PM

Originally posted by MiamiNice1
Thank you guys for stating my point so well!

Julia and Suki - it's like you read my mind!!!

{{{{HUGS!!!}}}}

No need to thank me Miami, you are here to share your OPINIONS just as Water!

I think it is interesting when asked for a link it turns into, oh well thats what you said and blah blah blah, how about, show the proof, or don't try to argue the point! imo

Watership Down

10-09-2006, 03:11 PM

Originally posted by Alter Ego

You might give your lecture to Heyes :read:

If IMO at the end of a post shows respect, what did your post calling Watership a coward show?

Heyes agrees with her opinion on this case so of course she isn't going to say anything about what Heyes does. :rolleyes:

Watership Down

10-09-2006, 03:13 PM

Originally posted by Alter Ego
parse parse parse.

Can't you guys stand behind what you say? :shrug:

Nope.

julianella

10-09-2006, 03:15 PM

Originally posted by Alter Ego

Exactly what is the difference between you saying 'Joran killed Natalee, imo' and "miami accused Joran of murder. imo'? There is none.

Again, why does Water have to link to her stated opinion? And when did Miami change her song and dance as to what happened to Natalee?

Watership didn't say Miami called Joran a murderer, you posted her post. Surely you are smart enough to know the difference!

Has Miami ever stated "Joran is a murderer".

That is what water said! So has Miami ever said those words?

If so by all means link it! if not, then what is the point of this continued discussion?

Water did not state anything as his or her opinion, as far as I am concerned, posting IMO in their location is not doing what is supposed to of been done on this board, so as far as I am concerned water states all her posts as fact! IMO should be in the post, that is where people read, not in the location! So to me Water did not say IMO Miami called Joran a murderer, water stated Miami called Joran a murderer as a fact, and is not true!

And I did post her post do you need to see it again? Water stated
"You have accused Joran of murder on a public messageboard. Should he sue you too?"

Please link to where it was stated Miami called Joran a murderer!

imo

Watership Down

10-09-2006, 03:16 PM

julianella

10-09-2006, 03:17 PM

Originally posted by Alter Ego
parse parse parse.

Can't you guys stand behind what you say? :shrug:

Who is not standing behind what they say?

I mean again please show me where Miami called Joran a murderer?

Otherwise I think Miami and I KNOW I am standing behind what has been said!

imo

fairmaiden

10-09-2006, 03:20 PM

Originally posted by MiamiNice1

Exactly, Julia.

Now they are backpedaling/deflecting/detracting. They love to drag other innocent posters (Paula and Heyes) names into the argument when they see they have no defense.

NEVER had I said what Watership accused me of. This type of lying accusation against other posters is not permitted.

Attack the post - not the poster.
imo

Miami .... I think you're the one "detracting" here ....

Suki posted ....

fairmaiden
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Originally posted by SukiJane

How much effort does it take to type three letters at the end of a post. To me, it shows respect for other posters. In my opinion, when one doesn't do this and they rely on something in their profile it shows that they are being rebellious and going against proper ettiquette on this board.

jmo
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Well, you know, Suki .... You and I are in agreement about something. However, SPEAKING of this IMO business .... Heyes expresses it in her/his profile .... I have never seen Heyes express it is her or his opinion in ANY post ....

JMO
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I AGREED with Suki .... However, I did point out that Heyes did exactly the same thing .... therefore to call Heyes an "innocent poster" is not right. If Suki thinks this way about someone who doesn't add "IMO" to their post .... wouldn't that also apply to Heyes??

JMO

Watership Down

10-09-2006, 03:21 PM

Originally posted by Alter Ego
Aw yes, the old double standard. Like claiming IMO shows respect, even when the post is calling another a coward.

For a group claiming there is plenty of evidence J2K gang raped, kidnapped and murdered Natalee, it's astounding they can't find the same evidence in the posts by Miami to draw the same conclusion you and I have about what she says about Joran and the fate of Natalee.

Instead you are called a liar and the link game commences.

Boy you sure did hit a nerve with your post. Maybe some are indeed afraid of being sued over their posts.

They didn't like that they weren't controlling the thread today and just had to find a way to start trouble. I guess they don't have pride in their convictions and now have to hide what they have claimed for over a year.

julianella

10-09-2006, 03:24 PM

Originally posted by Alter Ego
Are you denying Maimi thinks Joran murdered Natalee and has posted the same?

And why is Watership being called a liar for her opinion of what Miami has said?

Ok let me break this down for you because this arguement is really getting a bit lame for my taste!

The conversation was about Bo and Joe T and how Bo called Joran a murderer, and demanded to know where the body was!

Water then replied that Miami accuses Joran of being a murderer, so as a result should Miami be sued also!

And Miami states she never called Joran a murderer and would like a link to prove it, and water then started the blah blah blah, about putting opinion saves behinds.... and blah blah blah!

Instead of posting the link to prove their point!

So again, did Miami call Joran a murderer? Have Miami EVER stated that? If so please link it, if not, then why are we still talking about this?

I have stated I think Natalee is dead, I think it was either accident or murder, I do not know which is fact! I have also stated that I think the boys Joran included are either in the know, or involved! That is not calling him a murderer! That is saying some how or another Joran is involved in my opinion!

Bo did not say "hey Joran in my opininion you are involved" He said Joran is a Murderer! can you see the difference yet?

Truly until there is a link posted or something proven, then I am done discussing this off topic discussioN! imo

Watership Down

10-09-2006, 03:25 PM

Originally posted by MiamiNice1

You are LYING. Prove it. I just proved the post about Maiden bringing Paula up to cover herself - now YOU prove you're not lying!

Your posts all over this board prove it.

julianella

10-09-2006, 03:27 PM

Originally posted by Alter Ego
FIrst show me where it was said Miami called Joran a murderer.

Originally posted by Watership.....
"You have accused Joran of murder on a public messageboard. Should he sue you too? "

Now my link please

fairmaiden

10-09-2006, 03:30 PM

Originally posted by MiamiNice1

You are LYING. Prove it. I just proved the post about Maiden bringing Paula up to cover herself - now YOU prove you're not lying!

SHOW ME WHERE I CALLED JORAN A MURDERER as you stated in your post!

Awww Miami .... now SURELY you don't think I brought up Paula's name for any other reason tthan to illustrate a point. You had mentioned, although not to me, that I had been using "outraged" CAPS. Why on earth would I need to "cover myself"??? Paula used to say that all the time .... about using CAPS to stress something/emphasize it. I wanted to clarify that.

JMO

Watership Down

10-09-2006, 03:32 PM

Originally posted by MiamiNice1

Perfect summation, Julia! Exactly how it happened.

WHERE IS THE PROOF of Water's accusation??????

In every post you have ever made saying Natalee is dead and Joran was responsible. Now since quite a few of your posts have been deleted it is not possible to search every post you have ever made and that is why I won't even attempt to. But you have said it.

julianella

10-09-2006, 03:32 PM

Originally posted by Alter Ego
Save your condescension. I am fully aware of the conversation.

Are you denying that Miami thinks Joran murdered Natalee? Or is Miami now denying this?

If you really need me to re post all of what I said because you have not read them thoroughly I will.

Accusing some of being a murderer is what? Calling them a murderer right?

So then when a person states they are of the opinion that Joran is involved, in one way or another, accidental or purpose, but can't prove beyond a reasonable doubt of which, then how is that accusing someone of murder? Get it yet?

A person states they feel they are involved, in their opinion they are involved or responsible, whatever, it is not calling them a murderer, it is not accusing them of murder it is nothing more then saying in their opinion they are involved!

imo

Watership Down

10-09-2006, 03:38 PM

Originally posted by MiamiNice1

Thanks, and yes Julia.

I have never specified that "Joran is a murderer" as Watership has accused me of. The proof of her lie is all over this thread.

THANKS!

Lying again Miami? Tsk tsk tsk. I said you accused Joran of murder. When you claim that Natalee is dead and Joran is responsible you are accusing him of murder.

julianella

10-09-2006, 03:38 PM

Originally posted by MiamiNice1

Thanks, and yes Julia.

I have never specified that "Joran is a murderer" as Watership has accused me of. The proof of her lie is all over this thread.

THANKS!

But Bo did he said it as a fact, like they all accuse Beth of doing constantly I mean if Joe T won't sue him, then why would he sue Beth, they state the same thing right?

imo

julianella

10-09-2006, 03:42 PM

Originally posted by Alter Ego

Oh I see, so you can reword a post to suit your needs but when someone else draws a conclusion about what another has posted, all hell breaks loose and posters are called liars by Miami.

And Water statin' her opinion is different than Miami or you statin' your opinion HOW?

And no, sadly, I don't 'get' your idea of 'logic'.

That is the difference between me and you, I do not need to re word it! It is what it is! I am not looking for the hidden messages, or the ulterior words! Bo stated Joran is a murderer, I have stated I feel Joran either knows more or was involved in her death be it murder or accident!

I have seen Miami post the same as what I feel!

I have never seen her post that Joran is a murderer!

That point has yet to be proven!

imo

And I have yet to see Water state her or his opinion! I see their location is their opinion, but nothing they have claimed on this board has been opinion! imo

fairmaiden

10-09-2006, 03:42 PM

Originally posted by julianella

But Bo did he said it as a fact, like they all accuse Beth of doing constantly I mean if Joe T won't sue him, then why would he sue Beth, they state the same thing right?

imo

julia .... you lost me on this .... seriously. Could you elaborate please??

JMO

julianella

10-09-2006, 03:43 PM

Originally posted by Alter Ego
Why would Joe sue him? He didn't harm Joe by what he said. :shrug:

But yet so many on here feel Joe should sue or Joran should sue Beth for her slander? Isn't that exactly what Bo did? Slander Joran? And yet Joe won't sue a friend! imo

julianella

10-09-2006, 03:48 PM

Originally posted by fairmaiden

julia .... you lost me on this .... seriously. Could you elaborate please??

JMO

Bo stated Joran is a murderer and Beth has said the same thing, Joe T won't sue Bo over the slanderous calling Joran a murderer, so why should he sue Beth?

IMO

SukiJane

10-09-2006, 03:50 PM

Don't take the bait guys. They have successfully derailed this thread for a couple of pages now.

Remember back when we were discussing Joe T. and Bo. First it starts off as Bo made an ass out of himself, then someone posted they were sometimes an ass and had friends that were asses, then it went to being an ass and being stupid are the same thing. Then when that didn't work, it went to personally attacking another poster. It's amazing to what extent people will go to defend Joran and all who surround him. jmo

fairmaiden

10-09-2006, 03:50 PM

Originally posted by julianella

But yet so many on here feel Joe should sue or Joran should sue Beth for her slander? Isn't that exactly what Bo did? Slander Joran? And yet Joe won't sue a friend! imo

julia .... There is a VAST difference here. Beth is traveling around the country with her accusations .... COLLECTING MONEY ((A FEE)) as she does.

Many people have appeared on TV "
expressing their opinions" as to whether or not Joran et al were responsible for Natalee's disappearance. That is SO much different than what Beth is doing. She is telling "Natalee's story" as if it were established/PROVEN fact ....

JMO

Watership Down

10-09-2006, 03:50 PM

MiamiNice1
Senior Member

Registered: Apr 2005
Location: Under the Moon over Miami
Posts: 1475
Re: Reply to No Nic

(THANKS to No Nic for finding this exerpt of Deepak's signed statement!)

I absolutely agree, Paula. The pieces are falling into place with the various statements. I especially love it when the statements at the end read "SIGNED" and a date.

Joran is sounding scarier by the day. The typical spoiled rotten, angry, no job, living off mommy and daddy, thief with a gambling, drinking and carousing addiction.

What kind of person steals money from their own parents???

Answer: Usually an addict - of any kind.

This picture is frightening and I can only imagine what poor Natalee suffered at his hands. <shudder>

IMO.

Watership Down

10-09-2006, 03:52 PM

Originally posted by Alter Ego
Interesting how your post transformed into something else, even with direct quotes of your post which are WRONG.

But let you draw the only conclusion one can draw based on what Miami has stated time and time and time and time again and all hell breaks loose.

:read:

Typical twist and spin from the masters of it. ;)

julianella

10-09-2006, 03:53 PM

Originally posted by fairmaiden

julia .... There is a VAST difference here. Beth is traveling around the country with her accusations .... COLLECTING MONEY ((A FEE)) as she does.

Many people have appeared on TV "
expressing their opinions" as to whether or not Joran et al were responsible for Natalee's disappearance. That is SO much different than what Beth is doing. She is telling "Natalee's story" as if it were established/PROVEN fact ....

JMO

But didn't BO actually track Joran down at the airport to call him those names, and basically verbally attack him! That seems more scarey to me then Beth traveling the world expressing her feeling on what happened on this case especially since we are talking about Beths daughter not Bo's! imo

julianella

10-09-2006, 03:55 PM

Originally posted by Watership Down
MiamiNice1
Senior Member

Registered: Apr 2005
Location: Under the Moon over Miami
Posts: 1475
Re: Reply to No Nic

(THANKS to No Nic for finding this exerpt of Deepak's signed statement!)

I absolutely agree, Paula. The pieces are falling into place with the various statements. I especially love it when the statements at the end read "SIGNED" and a date.

Joran is sounding scarier by the day. The typical spoiled rotten, angry, no job, living off mommy and daddy, thief with a gambling, drinking and carousing addiction.

What kind of person steals money from their own parents???

Answer: Usually an addict - of any kind.

This picture is frightening and I can only imagine what poor Natalee suffered at his hands. <shudder>

IMO.

hmm still don't see those accusations of murder! Nor do I see her calling him a murderer! imo

julianella

10-09-2006, 03:56 PM

Originally posted by Alter Ego
Do you have a link to Bo calling Joran a murderer cuz I sure don't recall that.

Oh I will get you one, I am leaving now, let me see either in a hour or two I will be back or forst thing in the morning. even though you still never gave me my link!

Better yet, you give me my link that I asked for and you will get yours!

IMO

Watership Down

10-09-2006, 03:56 PM

Originally posted by Alter Ego
Do you have a link to Bo calling Joran a murderer cuz I sure don't recall that.

He didn't. He said something like "where did you put the girl" which has now morphed into calling him a murderer.

Watership Down

10-09-2006, 04:03 PM

MiamiNice1
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Registered: Apr 2005
Location: Under the Moon over Miami
Posts: 1477

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Originally posted by Hey Paula

Hi Miami!

I agree, and also believe the truth will come out, in all its ugliness, and that sadly, that Joran will repeat his behavior, claiming more victims.

I believe that the murder of JonBenet, and from what has been posted on the JonBenet Ramsey board, that Patsy was sent emails, describing what the perps did to her beautiful child, ended Patsy's life prematurely.

I can't believe such sadistic cruelty exists in human beings. It wasn't enough to murder JonBenet, the perp/s had to satisfy his/their thirst for sadism by emailing the victims mother, getting a sick thrill by shocking her.

I believe Natalee's disappearance has taken a toll on Beth, and fear it will affect her health. She is always in my thoughts and prayers.

IMO
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I wanted to snip this post but everything you said was too good to snip. What Patsy and Beth endured as mothers.......no human being should have to endure.

I wanted to focus on the part where you wrote: "I agree, and also believe the truth will come out, in all its ugliness, and that sadly, that Joran will repeat his behavior, claiming more victims."

Everytime I read this I want to tell you how much I agree with this thought. I believe Joran has been leading up to such a night as he had with Natalee for a very long time. Natalee just happened to be with him at the wrong time.

I believe these "wins" of the NY Civil case being thrown out due to location and his father's tainted money settlement will feed Joran's arrogance and cause him to become careless and finally slip again.

Hopefully next time.....he won't be so lucky.

IMO.

Watership Down

10-09-2006, 04:19 PM

Originally posted by MiamiNice1

snipped out the garbage

I posted proof of your accusations. Any lies on this thread belong to you.

Watership Down

10-09-2006, 04:23 PM

Originally posted by MiamiNice1

STILL LYing - trying to prove your point UNSUCCESSFULLY, Water?

WHERE IS YOUR PROOF OF YOUR LYING ACCUSATION OF ME??

Watership Down
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Location: IMO JMO MOO
Posts: 3473

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You have accused Joran of murder on a public messageboard. Should he sue you too?

It is posted right here for all to see. :rolleyes:

Watership Down

10-09-2006, 04:24 PM

Originally posted by MiamiNice1

The way you LOvvvve to quote me and harass me - I'm going to nominate you President of my Fan Club.

Thanks!

If you don't want your posts quoted then don't post them on an open messageboard. It's that darn simple. :punch:

Watership Down

10-09-2006, 04:26 PM

Originally posted by Alter Ego
Someone is in deep denial of what they have posted. ;)

She is acting like a two year old. I'm seriously waiting for her to post "waa waa she quoted me, make her stop".

Watership Down

10-09-2006, 04:29 PM

Originally posted by MiamiNice1

Bumping for Madame President of the MiamiNice1 Fan Club!

Looks like you need a diaper change. :punch:

Watership Down

10-09-2006, 04:31 PM

Originally posted by MiamiNice1

Keep quoting me - it only reflects on your animosity.

Thank you Madame President of the MiamiNice1 Fan Club!

:seeya:

Waa waa waa. :rolleyes:

Watership Down

10-09-2006, 04:36 PM

Originally posted by MiamiNice1

You're so articulate - that's another reason why you should be the President of my fan club! :D

You reporting me didn't accomplish what you wanted so now you are going to show your behind? Hoping to get me banned because I don't suck up to your every word? Grow up. This board is open to anyone and if you don't want your posts quoted then don't post. Because that is the only way you can control who quotes you. :punch:

Watership Down

10-09-2006, 04:39 PM

Originally posted by MiamiNice1

You need to APOLOGIZE for your LIE. Not be banned.

Besides - who would be the President of my MiamiNice1 Fan Club?

:D

I don't owe anyone an apology. I posted the proof of your accusations. Too bad you are too childish to see them and persist in trying to get the board closed. :punch: :punch:

SukiJane

10-09-2006, 05:00 PM

Originally posted by Watership Down

He didn't. He said something like "where did you put the girl" which has now morphed into calling him a murderer.

I think it was a little more than where did you put the girl, in my opinion.

more like...

BO DIETL, FORMER NYPD DETECTIVE: Why don`t you come clean and tell us where you buried her body?:eek:

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0602/23/ng.01.html

forensicpsy

10-09-2006, 05:00 PM

Originally posted by MiamiNice1

Thanks, and yes Julia.

I have never specified that "Joran is a murderer" as Watership has accused me of. The proof of her lie is all over this thread.

THANKS!

Bo Dietl called Joran a murderer but Joe T said on Imus that he won't sue him cuz Bo Dietl is the attorney's friend - and his friends get a pass. Then he laughed.

moo

ebnrsg1

10-09-2006, 05:08 PM

Originally posted by SukiJane

I hope I'm not wrong about this, but I think this is a rumor started after Dave was interviewed by Dana. Dave had mentioned that Deepak was in negotiations with a media person, or something along those lines. No details were given, some thought it might be an interview with Deepak, some thought that perhaps Deepak is suing Dr. Phil.

thanks Suki
I knew I had heard something along those lines but was not sure if I dreamed it or not. From this rumor do you think Deepak is definitely suing someone but it may not be Dr Phil or do you think that the whole issue of the negotiations is the rumor?

forensicpsy

10-09-2006, 05:11 PM

Originally posted by Alter Ego
So the claim Bo called Joran a murderer is a lie?

No. It's not a lie.

moo

ebnrsg1

10-09-2006, 05:14 PM

Originally posted by Watership Down

EB I posted about Dave saying he knew Deepak was in negotiations with someone in the media and I posed the question if it could be about the Skeeters manipulated tape.

thanks I knew I had heard something. If it was a negotiation for an interveiw I bet we can rule Dr Phil out/ somehow I do not think Deepak would ask him. If it is Dr Phil it is probably negotiations regarding a suit. Gee wish they would have given us more information. Now my question to all of you is how did Dave know about any negotiations from Deepak's camp. That to me is surprising in and of itself unless the media person is the same one who wrote Dave's book IMO

forensicpsy

10-09-2006, 05:22 PM

Originally posted by MiamiNice1

I saw that, too, Forensic! Thanks for the confirmation.

Wonder why Joran doesn't get himself another lawyer? Darn, looks like Joran won't be getting that beach house after all.

imo.

I'd like to see any jury on a slander case take Joe T seriously once they've seen that Imus tape. LOL!

ebnrsg1

10-09-2006, 05:25 PM

Originally posted by MiamiNice1

Exactly the image I had in my mind, Heyes....not to mention Rita "the grating Voice." (She's on another network, but funny!) LOL!

IMO.
Miami
I wonder about this. I was sure that one of the above mentioned would send a crew to video Beth in Holland . It was not mentioned in any great detail by any of them nor was the revelation of the confessions. I am wondering if Beth has cut them off or if the producers have indicated that the above mentioned must move on to current events. Maybe if Beth has cut them off Deepak would get airtime but if the producers have found greener pastures then I do not think he would have a chance but this is just my opinion

cassidy

10-09-2006, 05:29 PM

Originally posted by forensicpsy

I'd like to see any jury on a slander case take Joe T seriously once they've seen that Imus tape. LOL!

That tape would be irrelevant unless the slander suit was against Bo D.

Watership Down

10-09-2006, 05:30 PM

Originally posted by Alter Ego

How can you continue to try to converse with someone who won't even stand behind what she posts?

And enough of the insults of calling you a liar and now her Fan Club President. Gag.

Did anything happen over the weekend when I was away for work?

Nothing that I saw.

Watership Down

10-09-2006, 05:34 PM

Originally posted by SukiJane

I think it was a little more than where did you put the girl, in my opinion.

more like...

BO DIETL, FORMER NYPD DETECTIVE: Why don`t you come clean and tell us where you buried her body?:eek:

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0602/23/ng.01.html

First off :read:

"He said something like "where did you put the girl"

And secondly....that is an interview in which he is trying to puff himself up and not the actual video of the incident. He could say anything he wanted after the fact. :rolleyes: