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Its just me

09-15-2006, 08:37 AM

Originally posted by Moms4Justice

What is a grain silo? I don't think i have ever seen one.

Moms, in south Ga. they are know as grain bins or corn bins. They range in size from a 3000 bushel on up. They are round and made with approx 2' high metal rings placed and bolted on top of each other with the top coming to a point with a hole and lid on top and 1 door on the side. The diameter of the samallest would be approx 15-18 feet and maybe 25 feet high. I given measurement by sight but I think they are close enough. The use of these bin are not as popular now so there are probably many sitting idle. I just pray every land owner have check theirs or will. There are several very large bins around Ocilla and I know 2 of businesses use theirs.

While we are on the subject of drugs and since we do not know what has happened I want to add that for some time I have thought about Tara being given too much of the date rape drug and it killed her. There is information that Tara had been known to date young men and this is something they may do. I will add a little humor in this sad situation I think we can rule out an older man giving a daterape drug. You young people may not understand now but one day you will.

cbcrime

09-15-2006, 08:50 AM

Its Just Me - I needed that laugh this morning. Sort of like your old when you ...
Though I have to admit - I really don't feel that old yet! Thanks for all the info on grain silos. I hope they have been checked. I don't know if it could it also be a landmark - if it could be seen from where Tara is. Just random thoughts.

fsbiii

09-15-2006, 09:03 AM

Pic of a grain bin:

http://www.farmauction.net/forauctions/Andersen%20Land%2012-15-05/Grain%20Bin.jpg

There are dozens of these in various sizes and condition visible just riding around rural Irwin County. Many dilapidated ones, some falling apart, etc.

The R

09-15-2006, 09:37 AM

more FWIWIA stuff.....acronyms of asts from google:

Acronym Definition
ASTS Administrative Services Technical Services
ASTS Advance Supplement Testing Systems, Inc.
ASTS Advanced Surveillance & Tracking System
ASTS Aeromedical Staging Squadron
ASTS American Society of Transplant Surgeons
ASTS Architectural Selection Tool Set
ASTS Area S-Band Tracking Station (STDN)
ASTS Asbestos in Schools Tracking System
ASTS Automated Status and Tracking System
ASTS Automatic Software Testing System

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Results

09-15-2006, 11:18 AM

Many months ago I went through Brian's predictions. Examining, studying, and trying to make sense of it. Brian's fee is what made me ill. I don't think that MH did anything to her but I believe that if she was murdered this perp knew that MH would be the fall guy. The one thing that messed his plans up was he apparently did not know MH activities. This leads me to believe this guy may have known MH but was not close enought to him to know anything about him. It is my understanding that FS and MH often did a ride along on Saturday nights. From my understanding almost everyone knew this. So, IF this is true then this individual had to be out of Ocilla! JMHO Please correct me if I am wrong.

I will say one thing for Brian. He does give a free reading when it comes to missing children. I pray that he is right that the 2 year old, Trenton, is alive. As always just my 2 cents worth!

Results

09-15-2006, 11:19 AM

It should be SF not FS! Sorry!

Babes

09-15-2006, 05:52 PM

one thing that bothers me on brian's prediction is the "DNA on the collar of the german shephard" ... If the person responsible for this is just a hitman and unknown to Tara then why would this guy's DNA be on the collar of Tara's dog. He touch the collar? for what? not scared that the dog might bite him or the dog will create too much noise? I would think that if there is really a DNA on the collar of the dog then the hired hitman is still known to Tara and familiar with the dog or the dog is familiar with him.... LOL why not bring the men "involved" with Tara and have them hold the collar of the dog and see who can do it without the dog making too much noise and not biting him LOL... maybe one bark of this dog then one man will run already

Aussie

09-15-2006, 06:14 PM

Dolly does not seem to be the type of dog that was agressive.
She may be a German Shepherd, but she seems very placid.
If Tara had her inside for the night as I think I read somewhere that she slept inside, then the person may have grabbed her by the collar to put her outside.
Probably someone that Tara let in willingly because she knew them and Dolly knew them as well.
The perp may have convinced Tara to go somewhere and and said something like "you get ready, I'll put the dog out"
Just speculation of course.

fsbiii

09-15-2006, 06:24 PM

Do any men associated with Tara have a "criminal record" of domestic violence? What does that say after criminal record? Or a "criminal record" in general? We know of the Vickers incident. Others?

http://briansprediction.com/warnin68.jpg

jond

09-15-2006, 09:19 PM

Originally posted by Results
I DO NOT LIKE AG OR LG! I don't know them and I don't know anyone in Ocilla to say this or that about them. I saw the interviews and I read the articles of their interviews. Now I will say it again look beyond Ocilla! I'm going to take this step by step. MHu was on her way to Ocilla to Tara's house and arrived at Tara's house AM. FG was waiting by the phone at her home. Who in Hawkinsville knows Tara better than MHu? Who was talking to AG and whoever to tell them information about MH? Where the hell was HD? In Hawkinsville? Did HD go home that night after being at Tara's or did he go to Hawkinsville? Why can't those questions be answered? They are very important. JMHO

Results, Originally posted by Results I DO NOT LIKE AG OR LG! I don't know them and I don't know anyone in Ocilla to say this or that about them., let it all hang out...LOL. I hear ya and disagree with the basis, but at least you are out front. Very, very good questions. IMO, and this may be "out there", I seem to recall MHu was one of the last known to talk with TG and I am thinking TG may have said to MHu, "I'm going to see someone" or "someone is coming over", no name. TG cannot be located on Sunday, hence the search ensues. Going into late Sunday and early Monday, those the family can trust to look for TG and not go down to the coffe shop and talk, are called to look.

I do think those questions can be answered, but are central to the investigation, the real deal and not goose chases like global wiring of funds, etc.

Moms4Justice

09-15-2006, 09:32 PM

jond

09-15-2006, 09:47 PM

Its just me

09-15-2006, 11:04 PM

Elle_Woods

09-15-2006, 11:50 PM

If I remember correctly, Meghan from the pageant - Meghan H. - was one of the last 3 people to speak to Tara. Maybe jond was just getting the names mixed up, since the initials are both MH (Maria H and Meghan H). Sometimes initials can be used so much for abbreviation, it can get confusing.

fsbiii

09-15-2006, 11:52 PM

It's Meghan Evans and Maria Hulett.

Info was floated around that Hulett was one of the last to speak to Tara, but it was disputed later on as readmylips mentioned above.

The Evans call has been discussed a lot.

Originally posted by Elle_Woods
If I remember correctly, Meghan from the pageant - Meghan H. - was one of the last 3 people to speak to Tara. Maybe jond was just getting the names mixed up, since the intials are both MH (Maria H and Meghan H).

Elle_Woods

09-15-2006, 11:58 PM

My bad, I thought Meghan's last initial was H.

(sorry, jond, for thinking you were getting them mixed up. :o )

Babes

09-16-2006, 04:55 AM

Originally posted by Results
Many months ago I went through Brian's predictions. Examining, studying, and trying to make sense of it. Brian's fee is what made me ill. I don't think that MH did anything to her but I believe that if she was murdered this perp knew that MH would be the fall guy. The one thing that messed his plans up was he apparently did not know MH activities. This leads me to believe this guy may have known MH but was not close enought to him to know anything about him. It is my understanding that FS and MH often did a ride along on Saturday nights. From my understanding almost everyone knew this. So, IF this is true then this individual had to be out of Ocilla! JMHO Please correct me if I am wrong.

I will say one thing for Brian. He does give a free reading when it comes to missing children. I pray that he is right that the 2 year old, Trenton, is alive. As always just my 2 cents worth!

what is $50 bucks to the talent fee of Carla Baron from the show of Haunting Evidence?

I hope that Trenton is alive as well.... I dont think Melinda is saying the truth.

Babes

09-16-2006, 05:04 AM

Originally posted by fsbiii
Do any men associated with Tara have a "criminal record" of domestic violence? What does that say after criminal record? Or a "criminal record" in general? We know of the Vickers incident. Others?

http://briansprediction.com/warnin68.jpg

Hey ur a good sleuther... find the J.K.S lol I tried the whitepages yesterday for anyone living at Ocilla and nearby town that starts the last name on letter S lol and first name beginning with letter J .. i found a couple of them but when i click the link for the find more info on those people then ussearch came out and their middle name is different and not letter K. Sigh**... Maybe this guy is a bummer who doesnt have his own house or living with relatives or parents or his info is under his wife's information

Babes

09-16-2006, 05:11 AM

How much is the "controversial retirement withdrawal amount" that we are talking about anyway?

Lindsey

09-16-2006, 11:28 AM

Originally posted by Mannequin
sorry but HD wasnt the last one to talk to tara. i wont reveal the source so dont ask but it is reliable. some of this rumor needs to be stomped out for good this is so rediculous thats why i dont post much its all untrue junk.

I dont see where readmylips said that HD was the last one to talk to Tara that evening ... just that he did.

I agree with you that the rumors need to be cleared up and the truth be told. Maybe you could help us with that? I'm listening.

Its just me

09-16-2006, 03:46 PM

Originally posted by readmylips

according to godwin, mhu was not one of the last to talk to tara. she didnt talk to tara on saturday. hd did though. he called her that saturday evening. i'd love to know what the conversation really was. but i guess we all would.

Readmylips Your post is correct according to Popcorn concerning HE.

popcornMemberRegistered: Mar 2006Location: Posts: 84 Re: Phone There's no direct evidence (only speculation) that Tara received 3 phone calls after she arrived home from the cookout. She received a phone call on her cell at 10:20 PM from HD while she was still at the cookout. HD did not phone Tara 20 times but left around 8 or 9 messages on her home answering machine; that was Sunday. Tara did receive a phone call on her landline (no time is known) from someone according to *69. I want mention that person here.

Popcorn also posted the following about HD and Tara.

popcornMemberRegistered: Mar 2006Location: Posts: 84 HD HD was having a relationship with her.

So according to popcorn HD was the last person to talk to Tara on her cell phone. But Tara "received" one phone call on her land line after she returned home. If Popcorn speaks the truth
From a quote a few post up popcorn stated all other calls to Tara at BBQ was pageant related.

Tara's cell phone was found on the charger and the land line phone was found on the bathroom floor. I question Popcorn on the information he quoted (post can be found in popcorn's history of post under members list) about the dog owner picking the dog up on Sunday. I believe the dog was picked up Sat night while Tara was gone and the dog's bowl was picked up Sunday and Tara was not seen at that time. (I may have wrong informtion but I believe my source)

Tara was seen in Fitzgerald getting out of black truck.
A dark truck was seen at Tara's early hours Sunday am 5-6 oclock
Information from interview the neighbor stated the Dolly barked alot early Sunday am.
Tara mother called Tara Sunday afternoon and left messages on both phones (I think it was both phones)and no contact.
HD left 8-9 messages (popcorn records of post) Sunday on Tara's phone and was at her house 12:15 Monday am (I call this Sunday night) and called Tara's mother. The mother appears to have immediately called the neighbor after this call.
Tara's mother failed to report about the call from HD in the interview. May have been not the right question asked by NG I don't know. and the list can go on.

Its just me

09-16-2006, 03:55 PM

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Its just me
[B]

Readmylips Your post is correct according to Popcorn concerning HE.

Correction to the HE of the post above this one. Should have been HD
Sorry, No DSL and computer very slow. :)

The R

09-16-2006, 04:07 PM

Originally posted by Babes
one thing that bothers me on brian's prediction is the "DNA on the collar of the german shephard" ... If the person responsible for this is just a hitman and unknown to Tara then why would this guy's DNA be on the collar of Tara's dog. He touch the collar? for what? not scared that the dog might bite him or the dog will create too much noise? I would think that if there is really a DNA on the collar of the dog then the hired hitman is still known to Tara and familiar with the dog or the dog is familiar with him.... LOL why not bring the men "involved" with Tara and have them hold the collar of the dog and see who can do it without the dog making too much noise and not biting him LOL... maybe one bark of this dog then one man will run already

Maybe the dog collar was inside the house.......maybe attached to a leash even???

R

Its just me

09-16-2006, 09:56 PM

Originally posted by paranoidrox

I thought the police report read that her land line phone was found under her bed. Check back through some of the links./

Thanks, I can be wrong about the bathroom floor but that was my information from a local. I will check and see if I can find this and hopful it's still available.
Would a police report be available to the public in an on-going investigagion. I don't know.

Its just me

09-16-2006, 11:15 PM

Originally posted by paranoidrox

You're just a Shadow of yourself, Girl. :

:rose:

Babes

09-17-2006, 03:45 AM

Originally posted by nicsrightnow

27 stab wounds? From a "hit man"?? Possible but not probable. And I too, would like to know "where" this happened. Not a very likely theory IMO.

If you are reading the link... it says... she was taken from a white house..... that means... the hitman brought her somewhere .... and if that place is known then this case is over...

sogalady

09-17-2006, 04:33 AM

Originally posted by nicsrightnow

27 stab wounds? From a "hit man"?? Possible but not probable. And I too, would like to know "where" this happened. Not a very likely theory IMO.

Very interesting nic, how, May I ask did you come up with this?

sogalady

09-17-2006, 07:00 AM

Originally posted by nicsrightnow

Aw come on-- ask one of your friends to help you! You know they will! If all those credit reports, bank statements, teacher retirement accounts, horse ads, photos, statements, alibis, computer records, transcripts, behavior profiles, Hispanic crime statistics, IP addresses and polygraph results are at your fingertips, surely you can get one of your homeboys to get the police report for you don't you think? Just a suggestion, and JMHO of course.
:read:

Nicsrightnow,, As I posted on another thread, but will gladly repost here,, your nic. is very interesting. Well, Well, it is begining to show it's true colors. I might add that this nic. probably took a lot of "intelligence" to come up with,, I admire you for that !

What I do not understand is your interpretation to post that you do not agree with. Please post (with evidence by link ) where " Itsjustme" made a post where he/she made direct reference to any of your above accusations ! Please back up your "attempt" at degrading "Itsjustme " with not just one,, but multiple accusatons . I challenge you to come back with your "bad self" ( that quote is by none other than Sogalady) any specific post where this poster made DIRECT ( as in evidenced by) reference to any such accounts that you have mentioned,,, retirement account,, credit reports, bank statements,, etc. etc. and for heaven's sake you even had the nerve to mention "alibis",,, gees.,. that is what this poster has humbly asked for numerous times ! I think that you should either make some informative and intelligent post,,,,,,,,,,,,or gracefully bow out !!!! LOL,, gracefully !

You are so obvious,, try another nic. and come back with some information that would be helpful in the search for Tara ! Now that shouldn't be so hard for you,,, where ever you found "nicsrightnow" should certainly be able to help you out,, as I am certain by now that you have run out of names off the top of that empty head !

THE FOLLOWING IS FOR THE READERS OF THIS FORUM,, ADDENDUM TO A DIRECT POST TO "NICSRIGHTNOW".

I am coming off of my soapbox now ,, please understand that even "WE" can get up there every now and then. I will return to the frame of mind that would make you all proud, instead of stooping to the levels of some,,, PLEASE FORGIVE ME ! I will try sincerly not to do it again.

Its just me

09-17-2006, 11:51 AM

Its just me

09-17-2006, 12:06 PM

Sogalady and paranoidrox I posted my last post before I continued reading the thread. I sincerely appreciate your kindness. And for anyone interested, I have no idea who Sogalady or paranoidrox are except posters on ctv. There has never been any behind the scene contacts with either and either of the 3 administrators has my permission to confirm this if you don't believe me. Thank again Sogalady and paranoidrox. With appreciation ItsJustMe

HonestInjun

09-17-2006, 12:34 PM

You people are so transparent. All of you have new nics so what's the deal here.

PLEASE stop the nonsense. This forum has become a battle ground of stupidity. Why don't you take the battle somewhere else and stay off CTV.

Don't come up with the "I care about finding Tara" statement because your words are empty and meaningless. We have been down this road many times. STOP IT. :punch:

Go hug a loved one and be thankful you can!!

mooloo

09-17-2006, 12:51 PM

An AG interview was your source for the phone's location?

Originally posted by paranoidrox

I'll try, but so many threads have been deleted. I believe it was one of the inteveiws that AG gave. I'll find it.

Moms4Justice

09-17-2006, 02:38 PM

Originally posted by Babes

If you are reading the link... it says... she was taken from a white house..... that means... the hitman brought her somewhere .... and if that place is known then this case is over...

And if that place has been burnt down we will never know......Just a thought and my opinion of course.

Moms4Justice

09-17-2006, 02:45 PM

Originally posted by paranoidrox

Cute.

Back on track. To stab someone, anyone, 27 times is extreme and would, IMO, be the actions of a total lunatic or someone who harbors deep hate and rage towards TG, IMO. But, let's look at some of the facts. We know that TG arrived home from the Barbeque, changed clothes, put her cell phone on the charger and at some point after that left her home with her purse and keys, locking the door behind, IMO and MOO.

What if someone she knew and trusted pulled up and told her that her mother, father, a student, a friend, anyone she cared about, was ill, hospitalized, etc. and needed her. She wouldn't think about her cell phone. She would grab a pair of tennis shoes/sneakers wouldn't she? What was the weather that night? Late October in Georgia, close to midnight, might have been a little chill in the air. Who knows if the only thing missing is a pair of sneakers? IMO, most people don't know the full extent of another persons wardrobe, even those you live with.

And, there was talk of a missing bag and dark colored truck. If Tara went willingly with this individual, it would explain the lack of evidence of foul play, IMO. This person could then have driven TG to a remote location, lured her out of the vehicle and stabbed her 27 times. The only problem I have with this theory is that at some point wouldn't TG have realized something was amiss and put up a struggle?

JMHO.

Yes, I would think she would put up a struggle but what if they were at a location..... a field, pond,house,etc. already to maybe meet someone or wait for some reason and they were outside the vehicle already before she realized something was wrong. Then there would be no sign of struggle or dna in that persons vehicle. Her fingerprints would be there but not dna and fingerprints can be cleaned.

Lindsey

09-17-2006, 02:49 PM

Maybe I've just watched too much TV but I thought a "hitman" usually used a gun (certainly not a kitchen knife!), never touched the victim, and was in and out in a flash! I've never heard of a "hitman" taking a victim to another location to do the deed and then hiding the body. Never.
Maybe I watched the wrong TV shows ....

MOO

butterbean

09-17-2006, 03:05 PM

Originally posted by paranoidrox
27 stab wounds. Hmmm. From what I know that would make quit a mess. So, where did this happen? The LE luminoled Tara's house and there was certainly no indication that blood splatter was cleaned up. I'm not buying this at all.

My knowledge of remote viewing is limited. How does the viewer arrive at "27 times"? Is it an impression, vision or does Brian count the stab wounds as he sees it happen? How does he discern that what he sees is related to this case? Could he be seeing an act connected with something in the past of his POI?

Moms4Justice

09-17-2006, 03:45 PM

Originally posted by butterbean

My knowledge of remote viewing is limited. How does the viewer arrive at "27 times"? Is it an impression, vision or does Brian count the stab wounds as he sees it happen? How does he discern that what he sees is related to this case? Could he be seeing an act connected with something in the past of his POI?
That is a very good question. I think it is very possible for him to see an act connected with something in the past of his poi also.
His site is down right this minute but as soon as it comes back up i will provide a link to an RV he did that said it will happen in 62 days but it was actually 62nd street it happened on so it is possible that he interprets things wrong. (well, i know he does sometimes)

Moms4Justice

09-17-2006, 03:52 PM

IMO those who think that Brians RV could possibly help give clues to Tara's disappearance move on past the stabbing 27 times and study the other things mentioned in his RV and those who discredit him move on to another thread.
Im not trying to be ugly or sound rude but I am trying to offer my thoughts on what happened to Tara and I refuse to get caught up in argument over someone providing an RV trying to help find Tara being true or false. Everyone has an opinion and I respect that and I hope for respect in return.
:patriot:

Its just me

09-17-2006, 05:48 PM

Originally posted by HonestInjun
You people are so transparent. All of you have new nics so what's the deal here.

PLEASE stop the nonsense. This forum has become a battle ground of stupidity. Why don't you take the battle somewhere else and stay off CTV.

Don't come up with the "I care about finding Tara" statement because your words are empty and meaningless. We have been down this road many times. STOP IT. :punch:

Go hug a loved one and be thankful you can!!

HonestInjun, don't you dare pass judgement on me about how I care about finding Tara. I have studied this board for months and months, made phone calls, talked personally to people and driven several miles for this case. I am not one to compliment my self as I try to be humble and count myself among the least of Gods children. But for today I humbly thank God that my measure of stupidity is far above what you have exhibited on this board.
As far as giving a loved one a hug and be thankful you can. I have done since Friday and today with the burial of a dear friend's 38 years old son who left a 6 week old little girl and 2 more young children. Don't you dare preach to me about love and thankfulness. You get your own door sweap around and if you happen to have any extra time find some other stupid person to help out. Because like it or leave it I KNOW I do not fall to your level of stupidity. I don't need you nor am I interested in anything you have said so far on this board. I'm yet to see anything from you except judgment on many and that my friend is not your job. God Bless

Its just me

09-17-2006, 11:03 PM

Originally posted by paranoidrox

IJM,

I'd have to say that HonestInjun isn't very honest at all. There is definitely something going on there that I don't care to delve into. You just keep on being you and moving along and let, what were they called "all the queen's men" keep on trying to derail and divert attention to the bigger issues at hand.

Thanks, HonestInjun is far from getting me sidetracked on what I have taken to heart and done a lot of work. I've had a rough few days and HonestInjun stepped on the wrong nerve. I truly don't hold a grudge against him/her and hope him/her the best in life outside this board. Just a sad situation.

Its just me

09-17-2006, 11:14 PM

Originally posted by paranoidrox

Let's go chase ghosts!:D

LOL I will assure you I want be skeeerd or a :chicken:

Its just me

09-17-2006, 11:47 PM

Originally posted by paranoidrox

No, you're not watching too much TV, you are correct. A professional hitman does the deed and leaves, he/she also doesn't make it look like a missing person's case. Unless, of course, we're talking, Jimmy Hoffa. If, and I say if, TG was killed, it was by somebody who knew her well and whom she trusted. I do believe, IMO, that she left her home willingly. I also believe, that she wanted to be gone and that no harm has come to her.

I hope you are right and no harm has come to her. I have not been able to get off the fence. If she left on her own do you think she had decided it would be permanent and she intended to made a new life and leave everything behind or she left with intentions of returning and things has gone to National news and she decided to stay gone. If she is alive I lean toward she left for attention with intentions of returning. For some reason I have difficulty believing she left her car, job, college, money, clothes etc to start a new life unless she was more emotional that what she appeared on Sat. with the girls. If she left on her on I think we can all agree she had help and she did not leave walking.
If she has been harmed I think she knew the perp and I don’t think he/she surprised her in anyway. I think she had made plans by contacting the perp or being contacted by the perp, which could have been before, during or after the bbq and somewhere and somehow things went wrong. JMHOO and I reserve the right to change my mind with new information or old information brought to my attention.

Babes

09-18-2006, 12:37 AM

Babes

09-18-2006, 12:42 AM

Originally posted by Moms4Justice

And if that place has been burnt down we will never know......Just a thought and my opinion of course.

Great thought.....

Babes

09-18-2006, 12:45 AM

Originally posted by Lindsey
Maybe I've just watched too much TV but I thought a "hitman" usually used a gun (certainly not a kitchen knife!), never touched the victim, and was in and out in a flash! I've never heard of a "hitman" taking a victim to another location to do the deed and then hiding the body. Never.
Maybe I watched the wrong TV shows ....

MOO

Maybe the hitman brought her to a remote location because that is what the mastermind wanted. To see and talk to her first before she'll die. Of course am just brainstorming here....and the gun shouldnt be used so that no one will hear a loud noise? ( coz they dont have a silencer maybe? )

Babes

09-18-2006, 12:48 AM

Originally posted by Moms4Justice
IMO those who think that Brians RV could possibly help give clues to Tara's disappearance move on past the stabbing 27 times and study the other things mentioned in his RV and those who discredit him move on to another thread.
Im not trying to be ugly or sound rude but I am trying to offer my thoughts on what happened to Tara and I refuse to get caught up in argument over someone providing an RV trying to help find Tara being true or false. Everyone has an opinion and I respect that and I hope for respect in return.
:patriot:

With psychic abilities, remote viewing, dreams, I take everything with a grain of salt but i do not under estimate their power ( That's why i enjoy Esah's posting as well) . That person who did remote viewing or EVP on Laci Peterson ( What's her name Sandra? ) did an awesome job ....It was scary when i was reading it but it looks like it pointed on that direction specially when they even mention Craig....

Its just me

09-18-2006, 01:11 AM

Originally posted by nicsrightnow

So you're not interested in Injun's posts yet you've read them all and don't see anything worthwhile?....LOL

If you've got a friend to comfort, why aren't you doing that instead of posting judgmental jibberish on a message board? Like Honest Injun said, hug a loved one and be thankful you CAN. Tara can never have another hug. Not even "one last hug". Sleep with that thought under your pillow....and please, have a nice day.
:seeya:

That exactly right I read every post and I am yet to see anything productive in anything you or Injun have said except in this post of yours.
And I will tell you just like I told Injun don't you dare preach to me about caring for Tara or comforting my friend during a death of her son. I pray my friend is home in her bed and is trying to get some rest. Its been rough since Friday. It takes a low life idiot to make fun of something this serious.
If you know for a fact that Tara can never have another hug did you harm her. Do you have a tatoo. where was your tail when she disappeared. Do you have a quilty conscious and trying to make everyone else feel bad. I am here searching for answers and you just provided me a thought to sleep with under my pillow. An you have a good night if its possible.

cbcrime

09-18-2006, 01:34 AM

What is it with certain posters attacking other posters? What do you hope to gain? Esah and Its Just Me do not deserve the garbage thrown at them. It seems that if a subject leads away from the designated suspect - this board goes crazy.

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion - I do not believe they are entitled to demean and belittle other posters.

So the question is - why do you not want money - or the black truck discussed? JMO

Aussie

09-18-2006, 02:34 AM

Originally posted by Its just me

That exactly right I read every post and I am yet to see anything productive in anything you or Injun have said except in this post of yours.
And I will tell you just like I told Injun don't you dare preach to me about caring for Tara or comforting my friend during a death of her son. I pray my friend is home in her bed and is trying to get some rest. Its been rough since Friday. It takes a low life idiot to make fun of something this serious.
If you know for a fact that Tara can never have another hug did you harm her. Do you have a tatoo. where was your tail when she disappeared. Do you have a quilty conscious and trying to make everyone else feel bad. I am here searching for answers and you just provided me a thought to sleep with under my pillow. An you have a good night if its possible.

You go girl!!!
Seems the board went crazy when that tatoo was mentioned.
I see on MM's own blogspot that he is thinking of getting one on the other arm as well.
Well remember when CB mentioned the tatoo on the right arm or the other arm, you would remember that one FSBIII. I would never have believed that a tatoo could stir up such madness.
I would like to know where nicsrightnow was when Tara dissappeared as well, seems to know a whole lot of stuff that apparently we don't know.
IJM keep asking the tough questions and they'll go away or they'll shut up eventually.

kundalini

09-18-2006, 08:33 AM

Maybe Tara feared for someone she knew or someone in her area that turned up missing. Maybe somebody divulged information to her or something like "watch it or you will end up missing like xxx" and she searched the net to see if this actually was a missing person. Maybe Tara knew too much.

concernedperson

09-18-2006, 08:47 AM

I am glad the "searching missing persons websites" has been brought up again. Does anyone know if Tara belonged to Websleuths? Websleuths devotes a lot of threads to missing persons.

Also, I noticed something the other day while reading there. A nic caught my eye and I read this persons profile and they had 1 post back in 2004 asking about a job. It was a short post but they said that there wasn't much in the way of jobs where they lived. And time was running out or something to that effect. People responded to this post but the poster never replied. Obviously, they still read there. I am sure it is nothing but I thought I would mention it.

Its just me

09-18-2006, 11:19 AM

Originally posted by paranoidrox

On one of the earlier threads that I think has been deleted, someone posted something about LE confiscating her work computer and there being indications that she had been searching through missing persons websites. Tara may very well have been planning this disappearance for quite some time. No one knows how much cash on hand she may have had. No one knows how emotional she really was. If MH is to be believed, and I have no reason to doubt him, she actually threatened suicide. Maybe it was all too much for her. She had been broken up with MH for over a year, first at her behest, than his. She may have set a marker on the wall, if I don't have him back in a year, I'm outta here, IMO and MOO.

IMO, TG thought very highly of herself and would be an unlikely candidate for suicide, IMO, but who knows, look at Melinda Duckett!!!!:shrug: That one threw me but that is an entirely different case. Back on track, I think TG probably did have some help from someone she trusted who is not likely to be local. She may very well have chosen to leave at the time she did because she was under pressure and may have felt threatened, IMO. I don't mean threatened to be physically threatened, but perhaps some things about her she would rather leave unknown were about to become known in a big way and, if she "went missing" it would defuse that situation. Again, IMO and MOO, just thinking out loud, or, in this case, typing out loud.:)

Good thoughts and they certainly can't be ruled out as a possibility. Thanks for your input.

butterbean

09-18-2006, 11:38 AM

Originally posted by paranoidrox

On one of the earlier threads that I think has been deleted, someone posted something about LE confiscating her work computer and there being indications that she had been searching through missing persons websites...

I have seen this statement about searching through missing persons web sites several times. Is there any basis to it? Can anyone provide a link to the statement's origin? Can anyone come forward and say this is an irrefutable fact?

Results

09-18-2006, 11:59 AM

lowerAla

09-18-2006, 02:56 PM

Originally posted by butterbean

I have seen this statement about searching through missing persons web sites several times. Is there any basis to it? Can anyone provide a link to the statement's origin? Can anyone come forward and say this is an irrefutable fact?

She may have been reading about Natalee Holloway, it was BIG news in the south at that time and she had ties to Alabama. I can see her being interested.

Moms4Justice

09-18-2006, 04:14 PM

Originally posted by kundalini
Maybe Tara feared for someone she knew or someone in her area that turned up missing. Maybe somebody divulged information to her or something like "watch it or you will end up missing like xxx" and she searched the net to see if this actually was a missing person. Maybe Tara knew too much.

Maybe the perp searched for missing people on her computer knowing that LE would look for stuff like that once she disappeared. Just a thought.........

Elle_Woods

09-18-2006, 05:29 PM

Originally posted by paranoidrox

I'll try, but so many threads have been deleted. I believe it was one of the inteveiws that AG gave. I'll find it.

If I remember correctly, the only thing under the bed was the clock and possibly the cat. I don't recall AG saying anything different than that.

IJM is correct about the landline being on her bathroom floor, as far as I can remember and from among the info I loooked at again. The cellphone is the only one that was in the room and it was plugged into the charger on top of the nightstand.

Results

09-18-2006, 07:07 PM

Originally posted by Its just me

Can I ask what have I done for this kind of remark. Can you find one post where I have stated any of the thing you mentioned were at my finger tips. And no I don't know anyone who has a copy of the police report and if I thought a member of the LE has given someone a police report to an active investigation I would ask for his resignation. May not get it but I would ask. I have nothing against you and I'm not interesting in the 3rd grade fighting that goes on here. I wish you well and hope you can help in some way determine some truth. God Bless.

IJM, when a person has to pick on you I have to wonder why? As a board member of CTV you are one of the few that I make a point to read your post because it makes me think hmmm you maybe on to something. The post that I quoted from you shows how you always try to find a nice way of putting things which brings me back to why attack you of all people? Most people mistake kindness for weakness....that is usually always their first mistake. There are some posters here who are bulldogs ready to defend what they believe in, I would say I am one of them, yet this attack was on you. Amazing. Most of these pathetic posters that come on here to cause problems know who to stay away from and know they can't win as we all seen with Shadowgirl....isn't that sad.....these are the same posters that PROCLAIM AND SWEAR they are here for TARA! They put it in wide open view that it would be a "sport" to fight with us and how would that help find Tara? They act hollier than thou when actually the fact is the only hollier thing they have is their brain. I commend you on your respect to others when you are not giving the same. This is a bully picking on you because of your kindness and your good pure heart. Let no one take that from you no matter how hard they try because you are perfect just as you are. United we stand and divided we fall...I will unite with you any day of the week because of who you are and what you stand for THE TRUTH. When the focus shifts to actually the missing person, Tara, all hell breaks loose, why? Isn't she the one that everyone is here for? JMHO

:seeya:

simply quiet

09-18-2006, 08:19 PM

simply quiet

09-18-2006, 08:22 PM

Its just me

09-18-2006, 08:41 PM

Originally posted by Results

IJM, when a person has to pick on you I have to wonder why? As a board member of CTV you are one of the few that I make a point to read your post because it makes me think hmmm you maybe on to something. The post that I quoted from you shows how you always try to find a nice way of putting things which brings me back to why attack you of all people? Most people mistake kindness for weakness....that is usually always their first mistake. There are some posters here who are bulldogs ready to defend what they believe in, I would say I am one of them, yet this attack was on you. Amazing. Most of these pathetic posters that come on here to cause problems know who to stay away from and know they can't win as we all seen with Shadowgirl....isn't that sad.....these are the same posters that PROCLAIM AND SWEAR they are here for TARA! They put it in wide open view that it would be a "sport" to fight with us and how would that help find Tara? They act hollier than thou when actually the fact is the only hollier thing they have is their brain. I commend you on your respect to others when you are not giving the same. This is a bully picking on you because of your kindness and your good pure heart. Let no one take that from you no matter how hard they try because you are perfect just as you are. United we stand and divided we fall...I will unite with you any day of the week because of who you are and what you stand for THE TRUTH. When the focus shifts to actually the missing person, Tara, all hell breaks loose, why? Isn't she the one that everyone is here for? JMHO

:seeya:
Results I don't think I have ever had kinder words spoken to me. I can honestly say I am here to offer anything I can so maybe someone can add it to what they know and Tara or the perp can be found. In my searching for and reading information on this case I feel the same as you and do not rule out anyone or anything. I am searching for the truth and do not give ANYONE a free ride and I include the ones who are causing problems on the boards. For some reason A BLACK truck, Tara family, Tara' money, and Tara leaving on her own will bring in the buzzards. If the shoe fits anyone as far as I'm concerned they will just have to wear it. I may lean more toward a certain things but I haven’t written anything in stone. Thanks again. Keep working, asking questions and exposing any possibility. You are a valuable asset to this board because you don’t mind calling it as you see it.
Thank you again for your kindness.

simply quiet

09-18-2006, 08:54 PM

Originally posted by paranoidrox

Excellent question. Maybe someone at CTV can find out who this one is.:shrug:

Might take more then one of us posters to do that......hopefully someone higher up then you and me can look into this. JMO

That post gave me chills. Honest to god.

Its just me

09-18-2006, 08:57 PM

Originally posted by paranoidrox

Excellent question. Maybe someone at CTV can find out who this one is.:shrug:

Maybe the right GBI agent can find out who they are. There was a real good one in local area several days ago.

Its just me

09-18-2006, 09:21 PM

Originally posted by paranoidrox
It boggles my mind that so many jump to the conclusion that Tara is dead. Why? What do they know that the rest of the folks involved in this situation do not know? Why does her sister so desperately want her to be dead? Why did she accuse MH right off the bat? It makes no sense to me. AG accused MH immediately "What did you do to my sister?". Why? I don't know that I'd be so quick to assume the worse when it had only recently, and by recently I mean less than a day, been made known that MAYBE TG was missing. IMO, that was hardly sufficient time to come to the worse possible conclusion. Maybe she did just decide to take sometime for herself. If the she was last seen at 11 pm Saturday evening and didn't show up by 8 am Monday, is that really a long time? IMO, that doesn't indicate anything at all. Not for a single person. It's sort of like that slow speed white bronco chase, IMHO.

You sure have brought up the question of the year. Why the finger pointing immediately upon arriving in Ocilla Georgia. If you get too deep on this subject you will soon be out of here and the thread will go poof.
I've learned some new information today concerning her investigator that is very interesting. Not sure if he is not honest or I'm being baited. Don't trust either one. I'll just keep trucking.

Its just me

09-18-2006, 09:25 PM

Originally posted by Its just me

You sure have brought up the question of the year. Why the finger pointing immediately upon arriving in Ocilla Georgia. If you get too deep on this subject you will soon be out of here and the thread will go poof.
I've learned some new information today concerning her investigator that is very interesting. Not sure if he is not honest or I'm being baited. Don't trust either one. I'll just keep trucking.

I am replying to own post because I want to add that "if" Tara has been harmed I have not ruled MH or anyone out.

concernedperson

09-18-2006, 09:39 PM

Originally posted by Its just me

I am replying to own post because I want to add that "if" Tara has been harmed I have not ruled MH or anyone out.

You might want to share with friends as I am out of ideas and have looked and looked until I am nuts. You know what I have been through lately and I am not forgetting about Tara ever but help, if you can.

There are many loose ends in my mind. I need some strings as I have thoughts everywhere.

Tara Grinstead, I don't know why you are part of my life and why I have spent so much of the last year looking for you. But, you are and I am here. If you can speak to me, please do. I will respect your privacy and if you can't I will continue to look for you. That is it in a nutshell. This young woman has made herself part of my life. I will always look for her.

Elle_Woods

09-19-2006, 12:38 AM

Originally posted by paranoidrox
It boggles my mind that so many jump to the conclusion that Tara is dead. Why? What do they know that the rest of the folks involved in this situation do not know? Why does her sister so desperately want her to be dead? Why did she accuse MH right off the bat? It makes no sense to me. AG accused MH immediately "What did you do to my sister?". Why? I don't know that I'd be so quick to assume the worse when it had only recently, and by recently I mean less than a day, been made known that MAYBE TG was missing. IMO, that was hardly sufficient time to come to the worse possible conclusion. Maybe she did just decide to take sometime for herself. If the she was last seen at 11 pm Saturday evening and didn't show up by 8 am Monday, is that really a long time? IMO, that doesn't indicate anything at all. Not for a single person. It's sort of like that slow speed white bronco chase, IMHO.

I am just curious why people immediately jumped to the conclusion that by saying "what did you do to my sister?" that that meant she was talking about killing her. Did I miss the word kill there? Because I don't see it. I'm just reviewing some of the things that get dwellled on, and since you brought it up, I just don't see where she ever said that MH killed her or how you could tell that she meant murder in that one sentence? Could she have been talking about the emotional stress and arguments that went on not long before the disappearance? What did you do...emotionally? psychologically? what did you drive her to do with all this arguing and stress? :shrug:

Aussie

09-19-2006, 12:52 AM

Very good point Elle, I've often thought that myself, especially since AG still thought she was alive that early on.
She said in one of her early interviews that she didn't believe she was dead, just that they couldn't find her.

Babes

09-19-2006, 01:20 AM

Originally posted by paranoidrox
I wanted to go back and re-read the links provided but they no longer work. Anyone else having this problem or is it just me.:shrug:

Their web server was down but it is up now... check the links again

Elle_Woods

09-19-2006, 02:52 AM

Originally posted by lowerAla

She may have been reading about Natalee Holloway, it was BIG news in the south at that time and she had ties to Alabama. I can see her being interested.

Yep, that's what I thought of too. I think I mentioned it earlier in this whole website speculation thing. Also, SueAnn Ray was a missing person in Georgia at that time (body later found and husband/inlaws charged with murder) and Taylor Behl's disappearance/murder was going on which was happening not really that far away in Richmond, VA.

Every time I read this I can't get over the irony of how it is perceived as so strange that Tara may have (if true) browsed missing persons websites, considering the fact that we are all sitting here right now discussing a missing person. lol Rumor has it Pamela Vitale was a member of crime discussion forums, so should we view that as her attempting to foresee her tragic end?

Also, why does it matter whether other teachers or students knew whether she visited missing person forums? Not to make anything personal, but I have to ask - Do all the coworkers of everyone here and all other people you may be associated with know that you are a member of court tv, specifically the missing person discussions? My guess is, no. Why would Tara discuss that with everyone? I have been involved in forums for over 3 years, about 2 and a half years of that while working in a school setting and I checked the forums every single day. Did everyone know it? No......and mainly it's because you really aren't supposed to be viewing things unrelated to education (ie personal interests or hobbies) when you're on the school server. I have even been blocked from getting to the triple a car agency on one district server. lol So if she was doing that I doubt she would have advertised it, as I haven't either and sometimes only found that other staff members were interested in similar things at the end of the year when we could just kick back and talk about whatever.

Moms4Justice

09-19-2006, 07:50 AM

Originally posted by Elle_Woods

Yep, that's what I thought of too. I think I mentioned it earlier in this whole website speculation thing. Also, SueAnn Ray was a missing person in Georgia at that time (body later found and husband/inlaws charged with murder) and Taylor Behl's disappearance/murder was going on which was happening not really that far away in Richmond, VA.

Every time I read this I can't get over the irony of how it is perceived as so strange that Tara may have (if true) browsed missing persons websites, considering the fact that we are all sitting here right now discussing a missing person. lol Rumor has it Pamela Vitale was a member of crime discussion forums, so should we view that as her attempting to foresee her tragic end?

Also, why does it matter whether other teachers or students knew whether she visited missing person forums? Not to make anything personal, but I have to ask - Do all the coworkers of everyone here and all other people you may be associated with know that you are a member of court tv, specifically the missing person discussions? My guess is, no. Why would Tara discuss that with everyone? I have been involved in forums for over 3 years, about 2 and a half years of that while working in a school setting and I checked the forums every single day. Did everyone know it? No......and mainly it's because you really aren't supposed to be viewing things unrelated to education (ie personal interests or hobbies) when you're on the school server. I have even been blocked from getting to the triple a car agency on one district server. lol So if she was doing that I doubt she would have advertised it, as I haven't either and sometimes only found that other staff members were interested in similar things at the end of the year when we could just kick back and talk about whatever.

VERY WELL SAID!

The R

09-19-2006, 08:51 AM

Originally posted by Babes

Their web server was down but it is up now... check the links again

Does anyone know if Brian's info relating to perp DNA on the dog collar is what brought the GBI to Ocilla on its latest trip? (I guess I need to look at the timeline.........)

R

Khaos

09-19-2006, 10:58 AM

Originally posted by Aussie
Very good point Elle, I've often thought that myself, especially since AG still thought she was alive that early on.
She said in one of her early interviews that she didn't believe she was dead, just that they couldn't find her.

Very good point Aussie. This might explain why there was no hurry to get to Ocilla. AG might have thought- here we go again, Tara and her drama, she will come home.

Results

09-19-2006, 11:09 AM

Not what do we have here?

Its just me

09-19-2006, 11:11 AM

Originally posted by Khaos

Very good point Aussie. This might explain why there was no hurry to get to Ocilla. AG might have thought- here we go again, Tara and her drama, she will come home.

This a good point. I received information that Tara had left before but it was only for a few day. I can not get this verified by another local so anyone with knowledge of this happening please post. TIA

Results

09-19-2006, 11:14 AM

Originally posted by nicsrightnow

Huh? :lol:
There's that mental thing rearing its head again.... I guess I'll need my Psycho-Matic to decipher that one...lol.

You know speaking of Psycho...how did you come up with "eating each other". I might not find that strange from Stephen King but I think we can rule him out BUT you I wonder if you were close to Tara? Normal people don't even think about "eating each other" yet you did. SCARY! JMHO

cbcrime

09-19-2006, 11:48 AM

I don't know - but wouldn't think so. If there had been any evidence on the dog collar - with the passage of this much time - I don't think it would hold much value. Simply because so many people have had access to the dog. IF it was still there - how could it be tied to Tara's disappearance? It could be explained away pretty easily as occurring after the fact.

Its just me

09-19-2006, 11:54 AM

Originally posted by The R

Does anyone know if Brian's info relating to perp DNA on the dog collar is what brought the GBI to Ocilla on its latest trip? (I guess I need to look at the timeline.........)

R

If the GBI wanted DNA from the dog collar I would think they would have taken the collar. There are pictures taken somewhere of Dolly after the GBI came to Tara's and this was after the RV. If Dolly's collar is on in these pictures I'd think no DNA taken because for some reason I'm thinking that Dolly wore her collar all the time. Maybe a local who have often seen Dolly can correct me if I'm wrong because I sure can be wrong on this one. JMHOO

Khaos

09-19-2006, 02:23 PM

Originally posted by paranoidrox

IMO, if that was the thought process, TG and her drama, then I wonder why in all her interviews AG indicated that TG would never leave of her accord, she was too close to her mother, too devoted and respectful of her students, etc. :shrug:

If she felt TG was a drama queen, why would she bother driving to Ocilla at all? IMO, there were enough truly concerned people on the ground in Ocilla who could get the ball rolling looking for TG without any input from AG, MHO.

If she truly thought this was all drama why the MH confrontation? It's only my opinion, thx.

IMO-We aren't talking seconds or just hours here. IMO, at the first alarm the family probably thought ok, where did she run off too. Then as the day or days passed it may have became clear to them that this was out of character for Tara to have gone missing this long, then suspected worse. Wasn't Friends concerned earlier then when AG was summons to Ocilla? HD was leaving msg's and business cards before then correct?

Results

09-19-2006, 02:52 PM

Originally posted by nicsrightnow

Why didn't you say so?? You want worms? I can GET you worms... Maybe Pedro can provide a link to them.

:D

But no, I think you all know what I meant about a person not jumping to conclusions and immediately thinking the worst. You're just trying to play dumb, I know the deal. It was a hypothetical analogy. You know, kinda like SQ's hypothetical "let's shut down the search and go home" post awhile back. You all get it, I'm certain of it. BTW, aren't you the same posters that talked bad about "how long" it took AG to arrive in Ocilla, and now you're talking about how "it wasn't necessary" for her to go to Ocilla? Talk about confusion.... So which is it this week?
:confused:

I stand by my statement. She should have went to Ocilla alot sooner then she did. Don't intend to change that at all! I find it sad that MHu went to Tara's. Will continue to fill that way. Just my 2 cents worth!

Results

09-19-2006, 02:56 PM

Oh my goodness. Vicodine that would explain it!!:lol:

grandline

09-19-2006, 03:24 PM

Originally posted by nicsrightnow
Anyone know if Tara ever participated in chat rooms, discussion boards and/or other similar web based forums?
:read:

I personally do not know but this would be good information to have.

Maybe she participated in forums for pageantry, higher education, or personal hobbies and interests. She could have made online "friends" and divulged important info to these people.

Sometimes it's much easier to communicate with people who don't "know" you and who are unbiased to what you are experiencing in your town or with work, school, personal life, etc.

There have been many unfortunate stories of women who "met" men online and were attacked or worse when they decided to meet in person. While I don't think Tara was naive or gullible, she could have become too comfortable with an online acquaintance who could be responsible for her disappearance.

Always keeping an open mind! :read:

singlesix

09-19-2006, 03:53 PM

"the numbers 6 and might be on the license plate."

Anybody confess yet? Then again if it only 'might be' on the license plate it might not be. I think my license plate has a 6 on it - the expiration date - 06.

singlesix <= uh-oh, another six

PNut

09-19-2006, 04:00 PM

Grand - good thinking. What was the case, a year or so ago,,,,can't remember WHERE it was either...but the lady was into websites that discussed her dogs - oh I know - it was the lady in Missouri that was pregnant and the lady came to her house, after having made "friends" online in a chat room about whatever type dog it was they shared an interest in. The lady learned through chatting, that the other lady was pregnant and began chatting with her a lot. And then there was a visit on the pretense of looking at the dogs, and she killed the mom I think, and took the baby? Sorry, sketchy memory.

BUT the point being - yes, making "friends" online can be a possibly dangerous activity these days.

Results

09-19-2006, 04:11 PM

Originally posted by singlesix
"the numbers 6 and might be on the license plate."

Anybody confess yet? Then again if it only 'might be' on the license plate it might not be. I think my license plate has a 6 on it - the expiration date - 06.

singlesix <= uh-oh, another six

It is nice to see you make a joke every know and then.

barefoot

09-19-2006, 05:21 PM

I totally agree with Elle_Woods ; I'm a teacher and I like to check the news on CourtTV and CrimeLibrary during my lunch break, but I don't advertise that to the rest of the faculty. My computer here at home certainly has plenty of such sites bookmarked though--CrimeLibrary, , etc.--but it's just a reflection of an interest in missing people, with no sinister undertones or plans for running away. If I were to disappear, of course I'd want every possible avenue explored, but it's highly unlikely that these missing-persons sites that I visit would have anything to do with it. I wouldn't think it would be all that unusual for teachers to frequent missing-children's sites anyway, on the off chance that a missing child might have shown up at their school (or that a local kid was missing, something like that). I just think too much is made of the fact that she'd been browsing those sites; I mean, have we heard about ANY other types of sites she visited? News, weather, games, personals, locals, etc.?

Elle_Woods

09-19-2006, 05:21 PM

Originally posted by Results

I stand by my statement. She should have went to Ocilla alot sooner then she did. Don't intend to change that at all! I find it sad that MHu went to Tara's. Will continue to fill that way. Just my 2 cents worth!

Results, I will hand it to you. You are one of the few that stays with your opinion when you believe in it strongly enough and are not afraid to consider all aspects of a question. However, it is true that certain people change their position every week if not day and criticize Tara's family for two completely different things at whim. When you have people who one day are saying that it was strange for the family to be alarmed at all and that they shouldn't have gone then in the next instance saying they didn't go down there soon enough.....they were being too melodramatic, then they're supposedly not concerned enough....they're on tv too much and love the spotlight, they need to be on tv more often and speak out more... How are all those inconsistent opinions supposed to be taken as serious concern on the part of those people when it just seems like pot-stirring?

zorro

09-19-2006, 06:01 PM

Originally posted by paranoidrox
It would be nice to know and it may help. The only caution I have is the intent of the thread starter. Trying to guess at what sites Tara may or may not have visited would be speculation and only that, IMO. We know her computer at work was confiscated, what about a home computer? I read back and couldn't find anything indicating she owned a computer that LE took to check. Can anyone help me out?

It certainly could be an interesting topic to pursue but I'm just worried that it will further divide the board, if you know what I mean. I'd hate to see more posters banned.

JMO and OMO.
I'm sure there was a very sinster reason for starting this thread. Maybe it will keep you up all night worrying what it was.
Her home computer was also taken by the GBI.

zorro

09-19-2006, 06:14 PM

Originally posted by paranoidrox

IMO the implication was there. Granted, she didn't use the kill word, but whatever her demeanor and whatever words she used were strong enough for MH to lawyer up. I don't know what she meant, maybe all of the above in your post, maybe she meant kill. Maybe someone on the board that is close can find out. I'm certainly in no position to approach TGs family, IMO and MHO. Sure would like to have been a fly on the wall, though.

"I'm certainly in no position to approach TGs family, IMO and MHO." This is odd to me. Do you have a history with Tara's family? If you are really so interested in why AG said what she said, call the Tara Center? You can ask about it closing at the same time.
Regardless of what AG said or meant, the thing to note is that MH lawyered up after the incident. Strange he would be so concerned over the incident if most of Ocilla didn't know Tara had a sister.

concernedperson

09-19-2006, 06:50 PM

I agree, barefoot, if someone checked my online sites they would think I was obsessed. Actually, I am LOL! I have always had an interest in true crime and missing people is my heartfelt passion. I believe this is one of the worst things to happen to a family. It is when one person is brought home OK that we can rejoice but unfortunately it doesn't happen as often.

Than some particular instances of a case grip and grab you and won't let go. I believe this is what happens when someone wants to be found. It is like group effort can make things happen along with prayer and tenacity.JMO.

Its just me

09-19-2006, 07:04 PM

Originally posted by zorro

"I'm certainly in no position to approach TGs family, IMO and MHO." This is odd to me. Do you have a history with Tara's family? If you are really so interested in why AG said what she said, call the Tara Center? You can ask about it closing at the same time.
Regardless of what AG said or meant, the thing to note is that MH lawyered up after the incident. Strange he would be so concerned over the incident if most of Ocilla didn't know Tara had a sister.

I think there is people who know Tara that did not know she had a sister but I am very sure MH knew exactly who AG was.
I will say this if my ex was missing and I felt their sister had publicly accused me of having something do with my ex's disappearance I would lawyer up just as fast as I could find one, guilty or innocent and most of you would to. If I'm innocent I will try my best to keep from getting hung for something I did not do. If I'm guilty I will try to keep from getting hung for something I did do. I don't rule MH or anyone or anything out or in but MH getting a lawyer has nothing to do with him being guilty or innocent. It just shows he is no fool. MHOO

cbcrime

09-19-2006, 07:30 PM

IJM you are right the only thing it shows is he is not a fool. IMO Does not show guilt or innocence. I don't know who/what caused Tara's disappearance - I try to keep an open mind.

Its just me

09-19-2006, 11:20 PM

Originally posted by cbcrime
IJM you are right the only thing it shows is he is not a fool. IMO Does not show guilt or innocence. I don't know who/what caused Tara's disappearance - I try to keep an open mind.

I try to keep an open mind also cb....I'm yet to see any evidence of a crime or any evidence Tara is alive. I am on my own ban wagon and if someone wants me to join them on their's as to what has happened to Tara show me some true evidence and I might take a ride. I've seen some evidence of some strange actions by some with my own eyes and read some public articles that has created some questions in my mind and you all know who the people are that have been in the public. There have been some actions on this board that also raises some questions. We may never figure out why things were said and done by some... but we might.

HonestInjun

09-19-2006, 11:29 PM

Originally posted by Results
Not what do we have here?

We have "Khaos!"

"Paronoid" wants "Results" but can't find any!!

"Readmylips" says "It'sjustme" "Concernedperson!"

"IrwinIndian" needs "nicsrightnow" because he has used all of his up!!

"HonestInjun" gets murdered for telling the truth!!

But in the end most are just seekers of truth in the Chatzy.com chat room.

:confused:

BroadwayJoe

09-20-2006, 12:20 AM

The "dead" side has been accused of "wanting" her dead, which is ridiculous...yet the "alive" side could be MORE guilty, wanting others to believe she is alive to get us off the dead subject. Think about it that way and a lightbulb may pop on! If you KNEW she was dead, you would go to the ends of the earth to make people THINK SHE WAS ALIVE.

Hmmm...is all I can say.:confused:

Well I'll be! There IS some logical thinking on this board after all! Thank you Nick, for an intelligent statement. It's long overdue in my opinion.

BroadwayJoe

09-20-2006, 12:29 AM

Oh my goodness. The calm before the storm.

Its just me

09-20-2006, 12:41 AM

Originally posted by nicsrightnow
So now you're local then? When before you weren't? Odd... Anyway, it doesn't really matter I guess, but on another thread they are still addressing that Tara Center question, so could you help them out by answering that please? TIA.

Also, some of us think Tara is alive and some think she is not. What's the point of attacking those that think differently than yourself, although you do appear to be on the fence about this...? The "dead" side has been accused of "wanting" her dead, which is ridiculous...yet the "alive" side could be MORE guilty, wanting others to believe she is alive to get us off the dead subject. Think about it that way and a lightbulb may pop on! If you KNEW she was dead, you would go to the ends of the earth to make people THINK SHE WAS ALIVE.

Hmmm...is all I can say.:confused:

Well Well Do I have to be local to watch Haunted Evidence and On the record with Greta or the Nancy Grace Show. The last time I knew people all over the world have tv's. Can't help anyone with one question about the Tara Center but have a few questions myself. What's your problem with me? LOL. Where have you seen a post by me that said the "dead" side (now that is a phrase I really don't like) wanting Tara dead. A light bulb may pop on one day for me but I want sit in the dark waiting for you to flip the switch. LOL I'm yet to see anything of interest you have to say. I'm not interested at all in a "dead side" or a "alive side" I think we need better names for these sides you are talking about because they don't sound very respectful and I don't care to use them on any missing person. If I "knew" Tara was alive I would be willing to go to the ends of the earth (where ever that is) to find her and make sure she was ok. If I "knew" Tara was not alive I would again go to the ends of the earth to find the reason she is not alive. Ends of the earth????? I thought the earth was round. I want you to think about something. Think really hard. Of all the people the LE/GBI has brought to the public's attention by being questioned concerning the disappearance of Tara WHO have done the most talking and diverting attention to a certain area. Think really hard and it might help clear up some of you confusion. Good luck on you thinking. :)

Elle_Woods

09-20-2006, 01:37 AM

Originally posted by paranoidrox

Reading back through the posts I can certainly understand why you would think that posters aren't standing by their opinions but I think some may be taken out of context, IMO. Alot of the back and forth on this board is in response to other posters posts and raises questions like well then why didn't they do this? Or that? IMO, that's not a poster changing their stance just challenging the allegations/posts of another, IMO and JMHO.

That may be the case among a select few posters and occasionally in conversation. But there are some who do exactly what I said and literally change their gripe every single day even if it is the complete opposite of what they were saying at another time.

The R

09-20-2006, 09:03 AM

Originally posted by Its just me

If the GBI wanted DNA from the dog collar I would think they would have taken the collar. There are pictures taken somewhere of Dolly after the GBI came to Tara's and this was after the RV. If Dolly's collar is on in these pictures I'd think no DNA taken because for some reason I'm thinking that Dolly wore her collar all the time. Maybe a local who have often seen Dolly can correct me if I'm wrong because I sure can be wrong on this one. JMHOO

OK then, anyone know if there is/was another dog collar around, not necessarily on Dolly and maybe inside the house?

R

Results

09-20-2006, 09:56 AM

Originally posted by Its just me

Well Well Do I have to be local to watch Haunted Evidence and On the record with Greta or the Nancy Grace Show. The last time I knew people all over the world have tv's. Can't help anyone with one question about the Tara Center but have a few questions myself. What's your problem with me? LOL. Where have you seen a post by me that said the "dead" side (now that is a phrase I really don't like) wanting Tara dead. A light bulb may pop on one day for me but I want sit in the dark waiting for you to flip the switch. LOL I'm yet to see anything of interest you have to say. I'm not interested at all in a "dead side" or a "alive side" I think we need better names for these sides you are talking about because they don't sound very respectful and I don't care to use them on any missing person. If I "knew" Tara was alive I would be willing to go to the ends of the earth (where ever that is) to find her and make sure she was ok. If I "knew" Tara was not alive I would again go to the ends of the earth to find the reason she is not alive. Ends of the earth????? I thought the earth was round. I want you to think about something. Think really hard. Of all the people the LE/GBI has brought to the public's attention by being questioned concerning the disappearance of Tara WHO have done the most talking and diverting attention to a certain area. Think really hard and it might help clear up some of you confusion. Good luck on you thinking. :)

I am impressed. Tell it like it is! Love the sitting in the dark comment. JMO

kevin120462

09-20-2006, 10:26 AM

Originally posted by BroadwayJoe

Well I'll be! There IS some logical thinking on this board after all! Thank you Nick, for an intelligent statement. It's long overdue in my opinion.

I question the logic here. In every debate there are two sides or there would be no debate, no discussion, no theorizing, no speculating, no sharing of ideas, IMO. Isn't that the purpose of these boards? To share opinions, thoughts and theories? If you don't like the fact that there are two sides, and don't forget those who are sitting in the middle, you shouldn't come into these types of forums, IMO. You'll just frustrate yourself because, IMO, you'll never find a 100% agreement level. Or, you can look at it like this, there's a pro-side and a con-side, both sides are vying to sway those in the middle over to their side. If you look at it that way, you would encourage open discussion and welcome varying points of view, IMO. Don't you agree that it would be terribly boring if we all thought alike?:shrug:

Mindis

09-20-2006, 01:13 PM

I've been out of the loop for a while now.. Anything new?!? Next month will be a year.. I feel horrible for her.. Anyone hear that song "I'm with you" by Avril Lavigne?!? Listen to it sometime..

AVRIL LAVIGNE LYRICS

"I'm With You"

I'm standing on a bridge
I'm waiting in the dark
I thought that you'd be here by now
There's nothing but the rain
No footsteps on the ground
I'm listening but there's no sound

Isn't anyone tryin to find me?
Won't somebody come take me home
It's a damn cold night
Trying to figure out this life
Won't you take me by the hand
Take me somewhere new
I don't know who you are
But I... I'm with you
I'm with you

I'm looking for a place
I'm searching for a face
Is anybody here I know
'Cause nothing's going right
And everything's a mess
And no one likes to be alone

Isn't anyone trying to find me?
Won't somebody come take me home
It's a damn cold night
Trying to figure out this life
Won't you take me by the hand
Take me somewhere new
I don't know who you are
But I... I'm with you
I'm with you

Oh why is everything so confusing
Maybe I'm just out of my mind
Yea yea yea

It's a damn cold night
Trying to figure out this life
Won't you take me by the hand
Take me somewhere new
I don't know who you are
But I... I'm with you
I'm with you

Take me by the hand
Take me somewhere new
I don't know who you are
But I... I'm with you
I'm with you

Take me by the hand
Take me somewhere new
I don't know who you are
But I... I'm with you
I'm with you
I'm with you...

grandline

09-20-2006, 02:10 PM

That is actually one of my favorite songs and it held alot of meaning for me even when it first came out.

I'd never thought about it as having a personal meaning to this case but seeing it posted here gave it a new meaning.

It's very sad that Tara has been missing for almost an entire year and it seems like we are no closer to knowing the truth than we were last year.

Although it will be devastating to "mark" a one year anniversary of her disappearance, I hope it be a wakeup call for others and help renew the movement to find her.

:patriot: For Tara!

BroadwayJoe

09-20-2006, 06:34 PM

Originally posted by Elle_Woods

That may be the case among a select few posters and occasionally in conversation. But there are some who do exactly what I said and literally change their gripe every single day even if it is the complete opposite of what they were saying at another time.
And further, it totally and completely depends on the poster as well. If a poster posts a written in stone FACT, there will be some that will pick it apart, dispute it and attempt to ridicule, just because of WHO posted it. Reminds me of a commercial where the company employees are all sitting around the board room table and one has a great idea. They all just sit there. Then the guy next to him presents the exact same idea. They all cheer and high five him for having such a great idea...LOL. Same game, different players, IMO.

BroadwayJoe

09-20-2006, 06:42 PM

Originally posted by kevin120462

I question the logic here. In every debate there are two sides or there would be no debate, no discussion, no theorizing, no speculating, no sharing of ideas, IMO. Isn't that the purpose of these boards? To share opinions, thoughts and theories? If you don't like the fact that there are two sides, and don't forget those who are sitting in the middle, you shouldn't come into these types of forums, IMO. You'll just frustrate yourself because, IMO, you'll never find a 100% agreement level. Or, you can look at it like this, there's a pro-side and a con-side, both sides are vying to sway those in the middle over to their side. If you look at it that way, you would encourage open discussion and welcome varying points of view, IMO. Don't you agree that it would be terribly boring if we all thought alike?:shrug:
I never said there shouldn't be two sides. I was agreeing with Nick and giving him credit for his IDEA ANGLE, i.e. the fact that if someone murdered Tara, they'd strive to make people believe she was still alive. That's all. And frankly, I've never seen that angle brought up before, but you see how everyone is standing off from it don't you? Probably because they don't like Nick. Another good idea, but wrong person thought of it.

BroadwayJoe

09-20-2006, 06:49 PM

Originally posted by Its just me

Well Well Do I have to be local to watch Haunted Evidence and On the record with Greta or the Nancy Grace Show. The last time I knew people all over the world have tv's. Can't help anyone with one question about the Tara Center but have a few questions myself. What's your problem with me? LOL. Where have you seen a post by me that said the "dead" side (now that is a phrase I really don't like) wanting Tara dead. A light bulb may pop on one day for me but I want sit in the dark waiting for you to flip the switch. LOL I'm yet to see anything of interest you have to say. I'm not interested at all in a "dead side" or a "alive side" I think we need better names for these sides you are talking about because they don't sound very respectful and I don't care to use them on any missing person. If I "knew" Tara was alive I would be willing to go to the ends of the earth (where ever that is) to find her and make sure she was ok. If I "knew" Tara was not alive I would again go to the ends of the earth to find the reason she is not alive. Ends of the earth????? I thought the earth was round. I want you to think about something. Think really hard. Of all the people the LE/GBI has brought to the public's attention by being questioned concerning the disappearance of Tara WHO have done the most talking and diverting attention to a certain area. Think really hard and it might help clear up some of you confusion. Good luck on you thinking. :)
How many people are you considering there, when you say "brought to the public's attention" by LE/GBI? I don't know what Nick thinks and he may disagree, but the one I think has diverted the attention the most is Harper, given his well detailed minute by minute alibi, his tv appearances to push his suicide theory, etc.

BroadwayJoe

09-20-2006, 06:53 PM

FWIW, I don't like the "dead side" expression either, but reading back it looks like Barry9120 is the first one who referred to something like that in his "Tara is dead theory" post.

concernedperson

09-20-2006, 07:22 PM

I would say that Barry is objective. JMO. He came in late and didn't have the roller coaster ride.He posts from his NY guts which can be tough for southerners.

I don't really know about anything but I like objective thinking when it is available.

So, it is what it is.

simply quiet

09-20-2006, 07:38 PM

Originally posted by BroadwayJoe

How many people are you considering there, when you say "brought to the public's attention" by LE/GBI? I don't know what Nick thinks and he may disagree, but the one I think has diverted the attention the most is Harper, given his well detailed minute by minute alibi, his tv appearances to push his suicide theory, etc.

No big surprise here in admitting that MH is your #1 POI.

I am sure Nick is right beside you here in this view also.

So now tell us why?

Moms4Justice

09-20-2006, 10:15 PM

Originally posted by nicsrightnow
The "dead" side has been accused of "wanting" her dead, which is ridiculous...yet the "alive" side could be MORE guilty, wanting others to believe she is alive to get us off the dead subject. Think about it that way and a lightbulb may pop on! If you KNEW she was dead, you would go to the ends of the earth to make people THINK SHE WAS ALIVE.

Hmmm...is all I can say.:confused:

Good Point Nic!
I have had that lightbulb ever since certain posters started getting mad when you didn't agree with Tara leaving town to start a new life with absolutely nothing because of a mental breakdown!
Is it possible...yes
Is it probable....NO
But be prepared for an argument if you feel this way.
It IS ridiculous!

simply quiet

09-20-2006, 10:26 PM

Originally posted by BroadwayJoe

How many people are you considering there, when you say "brought to the public's attention" by LE/GBI? I don't know what Nick thinks and he may disagree, but the one I think has diverted the attention the most is Harper, given his well detailed minute by minute alibi, his tv appearances to push his suicide theory, etc.

Again......why is Harper the #1 POI? Because he has an alibi?

You gonna have to do better then that. Please?

Give me a reason to look at him twice?

Its just me

09-20-2006, 10:31 PM

Originally posted by Moms4Justice

Good Point Nic!
I have had that lightbulb ever since certain posters started getting mad when you didn't agree with Tara leaving town to start a new life with absolutely nothing because of a mental breakdown!
Is it possible...yes
Is it probable....NO
But be prepared for an argument if you feel this way.
It IS ridiculous!

Mom4Justice my light bulb was already shining when a someone on another board got ticked off and disappeared because all did not go along with the RV's. JMHOO

Its just me

09-21-2006, 01:17 AM

Originally posted by Undertaker

:lol:
how would we know you were missing? Would it be quiet and peaceful?

Shhhh :punch: This don't involve you or me. They can work it out by themselves. :punch:

Lindsey

09-21-2006, 01:56 AM

Originally posted by nicsrightnow

Did LE publicly present HD or AG as a POI? Nope. What did I miss here? Your post makes no sense.

I just adore the part about AG being Tara's mom though. What a weird thing to say LOL. I don't suppose you'd have a link to that would you? A birth certificate? Anything at all? LOL
:no:

I think what you missed is "when someone says AG might be" Tara's mom. I didn't see where II said she was.

Do you think it might help to switch glasses so you can see better? We don't need to start rumors, ya know.

:no:

Khaos

09-21-2006, 02:26 AM

Originally posted by nicsrightnow

Did LE publicly present HD or AG as a POI? Nope. What did I miss here? Your post makes no sense.

I just adore the part about AG being Tara's mom though. What a weird thing to say LOL. I don't suppose you'd have a link to that would you? A birth certificate? Anything at all? LOL
:no:

Did they publicly clear HD or AG as a POI? Nope.
Last I heard nobody is cleared.
:shrug:

simply quiet

09-21-2006, 05:33 AM

Why would MH still be a POI?

HE broke up with HER 9 months prior to her missing.

HE was not her most recent boyfriend.

HE gave an alibi.

:shrug:

kundalini

09-21-2006, 07:05 AM

I think the reason many are inclined to make MH their number one POI is because:

Many fear Tara has been murdered.
Of those that fear she is dead, they look toward the person closest to her.
She had many years of vested interest and emotion in MH.
Their relationship was not quiet. There were angry words exchanged and some very close to the time Tara disappeared.
Usually when someone is murdered (if that is indeed what happened), it is by someone they know. Sometimes it is not but usually it is.
It is usually by someone that has either an emotional or financial reason to hurt the other person.
I doubt there was a financial reason when discussing MH.
Fingers point to him because of his relationship with Tara, the years of emotion invested, his refusal for a LE lie detector test, his public attitude (high fiving at her search), and his very very very tight alibi that includes other possible POI's.

Profiling points to MH. It could also point to a few others but since he has the training, suspicious conversations with Tara, a key to her home - possibly, perfect alibi but yet no one has come forward to "prove" his statements are correct. No one can state exactly what time he arrived or left the bar. His alibi there is a relative. The majority of the world does not leave a bar and hunt down an officer to drive around with all night and then do nearly the same the following night - just a different governmental division.

MH could be totally innocent. If he would come forward and bring solid statements, times and a person or two that is totally reliable to confirm his statements (not one that is related, has a personal friendship, etc. but maybe a gas receipt, the owner of the bar, a video tape, something).

Sometimes strangers kill for the heck of it but not usually. Most of the time the killer is someone the victim knows very well. Yes she did know HD and AV and her sister and neighbors well but their emotional interest/monetary interest in Tara is limited. HD would have too much at stake, family and career. He did not have as many years invested in Tara. AV was young and infatuated. His alibi was solid and I believe he took a lie detector test.

The reason fingers point to MH is because he fits the profile. Profiles have been known to be wrong. Everyone is trying to figure out what happened to Tara and by using what they have read, seen or learned about crimes, there is a reason MH could be their number POI.

simply quiet

09-21-2006, 08:41 AM

Originally posted by kundalini
I think the reason many are inclined to make MH their number one POI is because:

Many fear Tara has been murdered.
Of those that fear she is dead, they look toward the person closest to her.
She had many years of vested interest and emotion in MH.
Their relationship was not quiet. There were angry words exchanged and some very close to the time Tara disappeared.
Usually when someone is murdered (if that is indeed what happened), it is by someone they know. Sometimes it is not but usually it is.
It is usually by someone that has either an emotional or financial reason to hurt the other person.
I doubt there was a financial reason when discussing MH.
Fingers point to him because of his relationship with Tara, the years of emotion invested, his refusal for a LE lie detector test, his public attitude (high fiving at her search), and his very very very tight alibi that includes other possible POI's.

Profiling points to MH. It could also point to a few others but since he has the training, suspicious conversations with Tara, a key to her home - possibly, perfect alibi but yet no one has come forward to "prove" his statements are correct. No one can state exactly what time he arrived or left the bar. His alibi there is a relative. The majority of the world does not leave a bar and hunt down an officer to drive around with all night and then do nearly the same the following night - just a different governmental division.

MH could be totally innocent. If he would come forward and bring solid statements, times and a person or two that is totally reliable to confirm his statements (not one that is related, has a personal friendship, etc. but maybe a gas receipt, the owner of the bar, a video tape, something).

Sometimes strangers kill for the heck of it but not usually. Most of the time the killer is someone the victim knows very well. Yes she did know HD and AV and her sister and neighbors well but their emotional interest/monetary interest in Tara is limited. HD would have too much at stake, family and career. He did not have as many years invested in Tara. AV was young and infatuated. His alibi was solid and I believe he took a lie detector test.

The reason fingers point to MH is because he fits the profile. Profiles have been known to be wrong. Everyone is trying to figure out what happened to Tara and by using what they have read, seen or learned about crimes, there is a reason MH could be their number POI.

This makes no sense. IMO

He broke off the relationship.......is that motive?

He gave an aliibi, and you ask for someone to come forward and proove it? I think it is the other way around...he gave an alibi and NO ONE has come foward to discredit it.

Profile of what? Because he has police traiing? So does HD

Mindis

09-21-2006, 08:48 AM

I hope they (LE, GBI or whomever working on the case) are working on something as we speak.. You would think you would hear something though.. I'm sure the locals would hear things.. Although I'm sure they hear rumors as well and don't know what's true and decide not to repeat the things they hear which is understanding. *sigh* I just want Tara to be found.. As always, prayers for Tara.. :rose:

Saskatoon

09-21-2006, 08:56 AM

Any married man having an affair with Tara would fit a killer's profile in this situation.

HD has an emotional investment with Tara, among other things. He also fits every angle you posted about Harper, and then some. And where is his alibi? And who is the only person among the POIs who was at Tara's house during the time in which she went missing?

Objectivity is key. Making a profile fit a person isn't how it's done.

The high five at the search was a lie, people who were there have said so.

And SQ is right about the alibi. What do you want? The alibis have to have alibis, too. They can't be friends or relatives, either, right? You are trying to hard to make it fit, as are a handful of others.

Use that energy to look in every direction INCLUDING Harper if you want to. You will be surprised at what you see (and what you don't).

Originally posted by kundalini
I think the reason many are inclined to make MH their number one POI is because:

Many fear Tara has been murdered.
Of those that fear she is dead, they look toward the person closest to her.
She had many years of vested interest and emotion in MH.
Their relationship was not quiet. There were angry words exchanged and some very close to the time Tara disappeared.
Usually when someone is murdered (if that is indeed what happened), it is by someone they know. Sometimes it is not but usually it is.
It is usually by someone that has either an emotional or financial reason to hurt the other person.
I doubt there was a financial reason when discussing MH.
Fingers point to him because of his relationship with Tara, the years of emotion invested, his refusal for a LE lie detector test, his public attitude (high fiving at her search), and his very very very tight alibi that includes other possible POI's.

Profiling points to MH. It could also point to a few others but since he has the training, suspicious conversations with Tara, a key to her home - possibly, perfect alibi but yet no one has come forward to "prove" his statements are correct. No one can state exactly what time he arrived or left the bar. His alibi there is a relative. The majority of the world does not leave a bar and hunt down an officer to drive around with all night and then do nearly the same the following night - just a different governmental division.

MH could be totally innocent. If he would come forward and bring solid statements, times and a person or two that is totally reliable to confirm his statements (not one that is related, has a personal friendship, etc. but maybe a gas receipt, the owner of the bar, a video tape, something).

Sometimes strangers kill for the heck of it but not usually. Most of the time the killer is someone the victim knows very well. Yes she did know HD and AV and her sister and neighbors well but their emotional interest/monetary interest in Tara is limited. HD would have too much at stake, family and career. He did not have as many years invested in Tara. AV was young and infatuated. His alibi was solid and I believe he took a lie detector test.

The reason fingers point to MH is because he fits the profile. Profiles have been known to be wrong. Everyone is trying to figure out what happened to Tara and by using what they have read, seen or learned about crimes, there is a reason MH could be their number POI.

TuscanDreams

09-21-2006, 06:38 PM

Originally posted by PNut
Grand - good thinking. What was the case, a year or so ago,,,,can't remember WHERE it was either...but the lady was into websites that discussed her dogs - oh I know - it was the lady in Missouri that was pregnant and the lady came to her house, after having made "friends" online in a chat room about whatever type dog it was they shared an interest in. The lady learned through chatting, that the other lady was pregnant and began chatting with her a lot. And then there was a visit on the pretense of looking at the dogs, and she killed the mom I think, and took the baby? Sorry, sketchy memory.

BUT the point being - yes, making "friends" online can be a possibly dangerous activity these days.

Good point- Lisa Montgomery resided in KS and met Bobbie Jo Stinnett over the net, they discussed rat terrier puppies that Bobbie Jo bred. Lisa Montogmery pretended to be pregnant then killed Bobbie Jo and cut the infant from her womb. The baby is alive and well, thank God. Lisa Montgomery still hasn't gone to trial. I'm in KS, I try to follow this case as much as I can.

So, Tara could have struck up a friendship with someone she met online. My thoughts have always been that a female harmed Tara. I hope I'm wrong and that Tara is alive and well, but I don't see that possiblity.

I'm ticked off that LE hasn't made any announcements or anything regarding this case. That tells me that they have nada.

Results

09-21-2006, 06:54 PM

concernedperson

09-21-2006, 07:37 PM

Originally posted by TuscanDreams

Good point- Lisa Montgomery resided in KS and met Bobbie Jo Stinnett over the net, they discussed rat terrier puppies that Bobbie Jo bred. Lisa Montogmery pretended to be pregnant then killed Bobbie Jo and cut the infant from her womb. The baby is alive and well, thank God. Lisa Montgomery still hasn't gone to trial. I'm in KS, I try to follow this case as much as I can.

So, Tara could have struck up a friendship with someone she met online. My thoughts have always been that a female harmed Tara. I hope I'm wrong and that Tara is alive and well, but I don't see that possiblity.

I'm ticked off that LE hasn't made any announcements or anything regarding this case. That tells me that they have nada.

I am glad to see you back posting. I thought others may have skeered you away. Last night a buddy from NY said nice things to me about Tara's case and I am going to say nice things to you. We need all the help we can get here and your thoughts are just as credible as anyone else's. The different camps are just that. Different camps.

Tara needs to be found and not swept under anyone's carpet. Too much heartbreak is involved. For sure me and I can only imagine what her mom and dad are going through.

I have a very ill daughter right now and I know what that pain entails and to think that I would never see her again is more than I can bear. So, Tara needs to be found and accounted for.

I believe everyone should take the focus off the camps and do the right thing...look for Tara. Really look for Tara! She is why we are here and she is why we come back day to day. Not anyone else.

fsbiii

09-21-2006, 11:20 PM

Which married man are you talking about?

Originally posted by nicsrightnow

The only problem with the married man having the affair theory is that there was no affair. So that doesn't fit either.

Elle_Woods

09-22-2006, 01:26 AM

Ok, this whole email thing has never made much sense to me. I'm not saying that Tara didn't do it. But just that it seems like it was something totally preventable.

First of all, if MH was trying to gradually keep his distance from her, why did he put her in charge of screening his junk email or to keep his account active while he was out of the country? He had no one else capable of doing this other than the ex-gf he was trying to keep his distance from? Or if that was an old routine and she was no longer supposed to be doing that, why didn't he do the most basic, obvious thing and change his password??:confused:

Elle_Woods

09-22-2006, 01:53 AM

Originally posted by fsbiii
Which married man are you talking about?

Well, since we're rolling out the list of POIs and you apparently are implying there's more than one married man POI, would you care to name names?:read:

Babes

09-22-2006, 02:34 AM

Out of the topic

I visited the brian's prediction site and his predictions on baby abby are quite amazing....He posted this RV on 9/18 and baby abby was found 9/19. Predictions not perfect but the main story is there. :(

http://www.briansprediction.com/warnings130.htm

The woman that took Abigale looks very dirty and could possible be using drugs, some sort of street meth. She has medium length 'stringy' black hair and would guess that she is moderately overweight. Also might have diabetes and in need of Rx medicine for this condition.

believe that she will be found soon and the baby will be ok, however not sure how healthy. Here are some other notes on this woman.

I think the woman that took Abigale was suppose to be pregnant herself, yet she was not, and I also believe that a boyfriend of hers thinks she is going to have a baby.

simply quiet

09-22-2006, 06:41 AM

TuscanDreams

09-22-2006, 06:57 AM

Originally posted by Results
What makes you think it is a female? I really never thought of a female harming her IF she is harmed. Does make you wonder.

There's a thread some where on here that outlines my thoughts, I'll find it for you later tonight.

TuscanDreams

09-22-2006, 06:59 AM

Originally posted by concernedperson
I am glad to see you back posting. I thought others may have skeered you away. Last night a buddy from NY said nice things to me about Tara's case and I am going to say nice things to you. We need all the help we can get here and your thoughts are just as credible as anyone else's. The different camps are just that. Different camps.

Tara needs to be found and not swept under anyone's carpet. Too much heartbreak is involved. For sure me and I can only imagine what her mom and dad are going through.

I have a very ill daughter right now and I know what that pain entails and to think that I would never see her again is more than I can bear. So, Tara needs to be found and accounted for.

I believe everyone should take the focus off the camps and do the right thing...look for Tara. Really look for Tara! She is why we are here and she is why we come back day to day. Not anyone else.

Nah, no one scared me off. I just have an itty bit of free time right now and posted in other forums here when I had the chance. I hope to more often.

Hugs to you and your daughter and you are in my thoughts and prayers. Here's to a speedy recovery!

fsbiii

09-22-2006, 07:56 AM

No, I wouldn't.

And no one's rolling out anything, just keeping an eye out for other possibilities that some refuse to acknowledge out of allegiance for some strange reason.

If you do some digging, you'll find many names that haven't been discussed on CTV or Justice Sleuths, FWIW.

Originally posted by Elle_Woods

Well, since we're rolling out the list of POIs and you apparently are implying there's more than one married man POI, would you care to name names?:read:

fsbiii

09-22-2006, 08:06 AM

If Tara was taken & killed, I am sure some of Brian's Prediction will be on the mark. But some of it will not. Just like the case mentioned here with Baby Abby. How do you know which portions to be looking for? The American flag, red truck, blue trailer, #27, etc. - were those factors true? Also, he said his vision might be of the mother covering up a murder and to not consider anyone innocent. Only time will tell if this Prediction (or any of the several others) adds up, IMO.

Originally posted by Babes
Out of the topic

I visited the brian's prediction site and his predictions on baby abby are quite amazing....He posted this RV on 9/18 and baby abby was found 9/19. Predictions not perfect but the main story is there. :(

http://www.briansprediction.com/warnings130.htm

The woman that took Abigale looks very dirty and could possible be using drugs, some sort of street meth. She has medium length 'stringy' black hair and would guess that she is moderately overweight. Also might have diabetes and in need of Rx medicine for this condition.

believe that she will be found soon and the baby will be ok, however not sure how healthy. Here are some other notes on this woman.

I think the woman that took Abigale was suppose to be pregnant herself, yet she was not, and I also believe that a boyfriend of hers thinks she is going to have a baby.

Its just me

09-22-2006, 08:58 AM

Originally posted by fsbiii
No, I wouldn't.

And no one's rolling out anything, just keeping an eye out for other possibilities that some refuse to acknowledge out of allegiance for some strange reason.

If you do some digging, you'll find many names that haven't been discussed on CTV or Justice Sleuths, FWIW.

Your right there are other names. No name calling from me but there are others.

Its just me

09-22-2006, 09:07 AM

Originally posted by Results

What makes you think it is a female? I really never thought of a female harming her IF she is harmed. Does make you wonder.

Results we don't know what Tara's activities were before she disappeared. Atok mentioned the measuring tape missing (simply could be nothing but it caught my eye) and strangulation could be something a female might do. Just a thought that crossed my mind so I don’t want anyone saying I said this is what happened. MHOO

Moms4Justice

09-22-2006, 09:20 AM

Originally posted by Babes
Out of the topic

I visited the brian's prediction site and his predictions on baby abby are quite amazing....He posted this RV on 9/18 and baby abby was found 9/19. Predictions not perfect but the main story is there. :(

http://www.briansprediction.com/warnings130.htm

The woman that took Abigale looks very dirty and could possible be using drugs, some sort of street meth. She has medium length 'stringy' black hair and would guess that she is moderately overweight. Also might have diabetes and in need of Rx medicine for this condition.

believe that she will be found soon and the baby will be ok, however not sure how healthy. Here are some other notes on this woman.

I think the woman that took Abigale was suppose to be pregnant herself, yet she was not, and I also believe that a boyfriend of hers thinks she is going to have a baby.

I was getting ready to post this Babes. I am glad you beat me to it! ;)
I thought he was pretty close on that one also.
He did that RV in 30 min.(thats what i read anyway) so if he would have taken longer he may have gotten more details.

Moms4Justice

09-22-2006, 09:30 AM

Originally posted by fsbiii
If Tara was taken & killed, I am sure some of Brian's Prediction will be on the mark. But some of it will not. Just like the case mentioned here with Baby Abby. How do you know which portions to be looking for? The American flag, red truck, blue trailer, #27, etc. - were those factors true? Also, he said his vision might be of the mother covering up a murder and to not consider anyone innocent. Only time will tell if this Prediction (or any of the several others) adds up, IMO.

I understand what your saying and agree with "which portions to be looking for". I have always said that from what I have read of Brians every interpretation is not always correct but most drawings are (if you can read them). My personal opinion is that he struggles with reality and his gift.

p.s. If you don't understand what I meant by that please ask and don't assume that what I am saying is I think Brian is completely wrong because I KNOW he has been right on many missing people cases.

fsbiii

09-22-2006, 09:36 AM

I'm very clear on your opinion about Brian.

Originally posted by Moms4Justice

I understand what your saying and agree with "which portions to be looking for". I have always said that from what I have read of Brians every interpretation is not always correct but most drawings are (if you can read them). My personal opinion is that he struggles with reality and his gift.

p.s. If you don't understand what I meant by that please ask and don't assume that what I am saying is I think Brian is completely wrong because I KNOW he has been right on many missing people cases.

Moms4Justice

09-22-2006, 10:12 AM

Originally posted by fsbiii
I'm very clear on your opinion about Brian.

That P.S. wasn't necessarily for you but anyone else that read it. :D

fsbiii

09-22-2006, 10:23 AM

Good to know. I thought the quote of my post and using "you" and "your" was directed at me. No problem.

Originally posted by Moms4Justice

That P.S. wasn't necessarily for you but anyone else that read it. :D

Its just me

09-22-2006, 11:11 AM

Originally posted by nicsrightnow

IMO the password thing may have been simply overlooked by MH or maybe he just assumed it wasn't an issue, etc. She may have just thought of it one day and wondered if the password was still the same. If she had prior permission to look at the emails and was given the p/w by him, it was his responsibility to revoke that permission at some point. It's not like she was hacking into emails, for which he could have had her arrested.

I agree with you. "If" Tara was reading MH's e-mails I think she was doing a little "legal" snooping on her ex boyfriend. I probably would do the same and most of you would also.

Its just me

09-22-2006, 11:16 AM

Originally posted by nicsrightnow
The only other names I've heard are Mary Jane & Hemp Cannabis.
:D
Did you also hear Clem Co-diller or Buster BB Brown or Ikey Bob Crane. just wondering.

Moms4Justice

09-22-2006, 01:02 PM

Originally posted by fsbiii
Good to know. I thought the quote of my post and using "you" and "your" was directed at me. No problem.

I re-read it and I'm sorry it does read that way. But seriously it was not directed toward you as I already knew that you knew my opinion of Brian.

:patriot:

Moms4Justice

09-22-2006, 01:17 PM

VERY WELL SAID.........YOU HIT THE NAIL ON THE HEAD!

Originally posted by kundalini
I think the reason many are inclined to make MH their number one POI is because:

Many fear Tara has been murdered.
Of those that fear she is dead, they look toward the person closest to her.
She had many years of vested interest and emotion in MH.
Their relationship was not quiet. There were angry words exchanged and some very close to the time Tara disappeared.
Usually when someone is murdered (if that is indeed what happened), it is by someone they know. Sometimes it is not but usually it is.
It is usually by someone that has either an emotional or financial reason to hurt the other person.
I doubt there was a financial reason when discussing MH.
Fingers point to him because of his relationship with Tara, the years of emotion invested, his refusal for a LE lie detector test, his public attitude (high fiving at her search), and his very very very tight alibi that includes other possible POI's.

Profiling points to MH. It could also point to a few others but since he has the training, suspicious conversations with Tara, a key to her home - possibly, perfect alibi but yet no one has come forward to "prove" his statements are correct. No one can state exactly what time he arrived or left the bar. His alibi there is a relative. The majority of the world does not leave a bar and hunt down an officer to drive around with all night and then do nearly the same the following night - just a different governmental division.

MH could be totally innocent. If he would come forward and bring solid statements, times and a person or two that is totally reliable to confirm his statements (not one that is related, has a personal friendship, etc. but maybe a gas receipt, the owner of the bar, a video tape, something).

Sometimes strangers kill for the heck of it but not usually. Most of the time the killer is someone the victim knows very well. Yes she did know HD and AV and her sister and neighbors well but their emotional interest/monetary interest in Tara is limited. HD would have too much at stake, family and career. He did not have as many years invested in Tara. AV was young and infatuated. His alibi was solid and I believe he took a lie detector test.

The reason fingers point to MH is because he fits the profile. Profiles have been known to be wrong. Everyone is trying to figure out what happened to Tara and by using what they have read, seen or learned about crimes, there is a reason MH could be their number POI.

cbcrime

09-22-2006, 02:26 PM

I really don't get it. You are all asking for proof on statements. When in fact there is not proof for about 99% of what is being stated. Just because AG stated something on a TV program does not make it correct. Just because someone here posts the opposite of what AG stated on a TV program does not make that correct. There is very little that can be proven in this case. So why is everyone so angry? Why can't you post the different speculations? Why does one person have to be right or wrong? Discussing the different possibilities without scarcasm would be really nice. For some reason people here are not capable of carrying on a discussion of possibilities without attacking. It is juvenile and tiresome.

Moms4Justice

09-22-2006, 03:22 PM

Originally posted by cbcrime
I really don't get it. You are all asking for proof on statements. When in fact there is not proof for about 99% of what is being stated. Just because AG stated something on a TV program does not make it correct. Just because someone here posts the opposite of what AG stated on a TV program does not make that correct. There is very little that can be proven in this case. So why is everyone so angry? Why can't you post the different speculations? Why does one person have to be right or wrong? Discussing the different possibilities without scarcasm would be really nice. For some reason people here are not capable of carrying on a discussion of possibilities without attacking. It is juvenile and tiresome.

You are 100% correct........and I am guilty. I don't want to be that way and it is not my nature at all, but it's like you have to take the scarcasm or defend yourself and a theory. I wish everyone could get along and Tara wasn't missing.

mooloo

09-22-2006, 04:32 PM

Who are these people?? Are the initials the hints?

Originally posted by Its just me

Did you also hear Clem Co-diller or Buster BB Brown or Ikey Bob Crane. just wondering.

Elle_Woods

09-22-2006, 05:23 PM

Originally posted by paranoidrox

I agree completely, Elle. Why would he not change his password?IMO that just doesn't make sense. Maybe, TG got an email from one of MH's new girlfriends or she emailed one of his new gfs or MH and that's the crux of the email argument, if there was an email argument. The argument at Tara's house the Thursday before she went missing could be about something entirely different, IMO. When did the name calling at the red light happen and who was in the car with TG when MH called her a f*****g w***e? IMO, this could have been a follow on to that incident.

JMHO.

Right. Also, like IJM seems to be saying, I think we'd be hard pressed to find a gf, ex or current of anyone, who may not have taken a little snoop from time to time. Not that it's right or that I'm excusing Tara's behavior, but it happens. Now, if she went ahead and emailed one of these people, I would have to say that she definitely crossed a line of privacy w/ him. But, as far as her using a password that she already knew and he didn't change (if that's the case), I'm not sure I have too much sympathy there and he'd probably have a hard time doing any kind of prosecuting if that's what he was saying to her in the argument (allegedly).

SQ is correct, there was apparently a mix-up or something and there's another version of the car story that involves AV as the person yelling at the light. God only knows. I don't even want to go there again. :patriot:

TuscanDreams

09-22-2006, 05:45 PM

My theory is that a female lured Tara out of her home and abducted her. I assume, sadly, that Tara is deceased. Also, I could be very wrong and Tara could be alive and well- just walking away from her life. Also, of course my theory could be wrong and that a male abducted her. It's only based on my years as a Parole Officer.

To begin, we need to remove certain types of abduction from the case. She wasn't a high risk victim, so we can assume that she has no ties to gangs, drugs or other high risk activities that are precursors to violence. She wasn't known to be a bar hound, either. She lives in a neighborhood that is not familiar with this type of crime. Although a stranger abduction hasn't been ruled out, it's highly unlikely.

My profile of the female who I think took Tara has a superficial charm and is narcissitic. This person is only looking out for herself. I think that she may be presenting a calm demeanor and is seeting underneath. This type of offender probably hasn't told anyone else what she has done, but really wants to share her crime. She's fascinated with watching this case unfold and is probably shocked that Tara's body has not been found. The police have interviewed her and released her, because she's so calm and convincing.

This female was most likely raised in a single parent home or in foster care. She doesn't have strong emotional ties and is most likely yonger than Tara.

I don't think this was well thought out, I think this perp got lucky.

JMO ONLY!!

Elle_Woods

09-22-2006, 05:55 PM

Originally posted by nicsrightnow
The only other names I've heard are Mary Jane & Hemp Cannabis.
:D

No way! :eek: :beer:

Elle_Woods

09-22-2006, 06:05 PM

Originally posted by cbcrime
I really don't get it. You are all asking for proof on statements. When in fact there is not proof for about 99% of what is being stated. Just because AG stated something on a TV program does not make it correct. Just because someone here posts the opposite of what AG stated on a TV program does not make that correct. There is very little that can be proven in this case. So why is everyone so angry? Why can't you post the different speculations? Why does one person have to be right or wrong? Discussing the different possibilities without scarcasm would be really nice. For some reason people here are not capable of carrying on a discussion of possibilities without attacking. It is juvenile and tiresome.

I would just like some elaboration on various claims, not necessarily proof (although that would be great), and perhaps an open environment where a question can be asked without someone acting like it's a personal affront to their character would also be nice. :cool:

mooloo

09-22-2006, 06:40 PM

Very interesting......

Originally posted by IrwinIndian
1) superficial charm
2) narcissistic
3) looking out for herself
4) calm demeanor
5) seething underneath
6) fascinated with watching this case
7) LE has talked to, but unsuspecting
8) single parent home
9) no strong emotional tie
10) younger than Tara

Take off 1 of these 10 and IMO there's a female POI very close to these things.

Do you think the female is participating in the case, searches, etc.? "Watching the case" from what viewpoint?

BikerBabe

09-22-2006, 07:10 PM

To me it comes down to a person's integrity. I dated my ISP years ago and made up new accounts for people and so knew what their password was (and many don't think to change them immediately upon getting a new account). I also could have accessed anyone's account if I was in his root account. (The main account on a unix system that has full power over everything.) Neither of us would have ever considered looking at someone's email or saved files. Email is private, even if you have that person's password and have had permission in the past to access it. Unless I am told to check it present day for them for some reason, it just isn't something that's right or moral.

Nothing against Tara, just saying what my personal belief is on the subject. Present day I know my roommate's pass and he knows mine, neither of us would ever get in to the other's email without asking first. We run separate profiles on the computer and don't log into each others, no need or desire to.

Moms4Justice

09-22-2006, 07:26 PM

Originally posted by Its just me

Mom4Justice my light bulb was already shining when a someone on another board got ticked off and disappeared because all did not go along with the RV's. JMHOO

"The RV's"...... is there more than one?
That's a silly reason to disappear, no one agrees about anything when it comes to Tara. Are you sure that is the reason? Has anyone bothered to ask?

fsbiii

09-22-2006, 07:50 PM

Who's disappeared now?

:shrug:

Originally posted by Moms4Justice

"The RV's"...... is there more than one?
That's a silly reason to disappear, no one agrees about anything when it comes to Tara. Are you sure that is the reason? Has anyone bothered to ask?

Its just me

09-22-2006, 08:41 PM

Originally posted by mooloo
Who are these people?? Are the initials the hints?

No moo, I'm just guilty of acting as stupid as the one I replied to. The are just childhood names we used to call each other.

concernedperson

09-22-2006, 08:42 PM

I could wish but never have my wish acknowledged. I really want everyone to focus on finding Tara. None of us are in those shoes. I have issues and my child is in a hospital room. But, I am still here looking for Tara Grinstead. Not personal vendettas but looking for Tara.

Differences of opinion or how we got there doesn't mean a tinker's damn but finding Tara does. Stop the childish behavior and don't respond if you don't like it but do if adding or detracting can bring Tara home. It isn't about posters. It is about what happened to Tara Grinstead.

Its just me

09-22-2006, 08:51 PM

Originally posted by Moms4Justice

"The RV's"...... is there more than one?
That's a silly reason to disappear, no one agrees about anything when it comes to Tara. Are you sure that is the reason? Has anyone bothered to ask?

Just one RV unless someone asked Brian to do another one.

Moms4Justice

09-22-2006, 09:05 PM

Originally posted by fsbiii
Who's disappeared now?

:shrug:

:shrug: either

Its just me

09-22-2006, 09:48 PM

Originally posted by Moms4Justice

:shrug: either

No one has disappeared completely only moves around.

Elle_Woods

09-22-2006, 11:36 PM

Originally posted by paranoidrox

Bravo! Arent't you absolutly correct

Not sure if you were being sarcastic or not, but you really don't have to agree with everything I say. :D However, I did think we were agreeing on some things for awhile there, which is lovely but not a requirement. ;) Honestly, I can't even believe I have to clarify that on this of all topics, where people get chewed out all the time for not agreeing with what some think is the majority or popular opinion. :shrug:

BroadwayJoe

09-23-2006, 01:33 AM

Originally posted by Elle_Woods

I could have sworn I read the moderator stating in the recent past not to bring other forums/off topic things here? Just like what several of you all do with that Carla Baron forum and wherever else? :shrug:

If you were truly here to get to the bottom of what happened to Tara Grinstead, in my opinion you would not be searching through anyone's posts on a different forum just to find things that you find to be too 'long-winded and condescending' as some kind of reason to put down someone's opinion. Or, rather, I guess that's what you'd call a diverson tactic? That is certainly what it looks like. A discussion is a discussion, obviously people aren't going to agree all the time otherwise there would be nothing to discuss. lol You can take my comments out of context if you want to, but I have never bullied someone into agreeing with me (unlike what I've seen here). There is a huge difference between questioning someone's point or where they heard a rumor (which, yes - omg, I've done) versus calling people names or saying they are AG or this poster or that poster or drink pink pom pom koolaid.

It's nuts, but if that's the kind of dynamic you want on a message board you can have it. Whatever. I am done with this particular section of the ctv board. So, if that was your goal, congrats! Now I know why in the past there have been so many "ctv refugees", I should have heeded their warning. I will continue to do what I can do for Tara on the forum that matters most to me and if you don't like the way I post there, then don't sit like an obsessed guest for hrs and hrs reading the posts (like we don't know you do that lol) or better yet just don't read mine.
You are one of the most intelligent and objective posters on this board and I, for one, hope you don't leave, but cannot blame you at all if you do. No progress is ever made here... But FWIW you are an insightful and honest poster.

gacountry

09-23-2006, 07:39 AM

Elle-Woods
Please don't let them get to you! I know how it feels and I have seen so many good posters that they have bullied away, think about it if we all leave they there will be only one opinion, hmmmm could that be what they want?
I know your heart is in the right place, keep going that way wherever you post I will read.

Lindsey

09-23-2006, 12:02 PM

Originally posted by paranoidrox

http://www.crimelibrary.com/news/original/0906/2101_janet_chandler.html

I bet alot of you all read crimelibrary.com stories as I do, IMO. Look at this one, it's absolutely appalling!

In the past the *conspiracy theory* has been raised and promptly defeated in TG's case. I've tried to find the threads but, alas, so many have been deleted and banned posters' posts have also fallen by the wayside.

I'd like to throw out a scenario that, IMO, is plausible. Please don't take it personally and please don't go on the attack. Just read the article linked and then read what I think, OK?

We think we know that TG received a call from the bar that MH was in during the evening of 22 Oct. We think we know that MH was in said bar until approximately 0230 hours 23 Oct when he then hooked up with SF for a drive along, right? IMO, no one, including MHs relatives who were with him and drinking have pinpointed the exact time he left the bar, they weren't really paying attention to the time, that's what was said in the past and I am trying deperately to find the thread with the link to the local newspaper. So, just let's take that for what it's worth.

What if the call to TG from the bar was made by someone she trusted who passed along information that MH was there and, here's the stretch, wanted to see her. Come to the bar, TG, he's here and it's a chance to talk things out. Everyone close to TG has gone public that she was an emotional wreck. IMO, this call may have been the impetus that got TG to get in her car and drive there. Maybe MH met her outside and off they went.

I believe, IMO, that there is someone who knows what happened and who made it happen. I think that more than one person was involved in TG's disappearance. IMO, in her emotionally charged state and with things of the past year spiralling out of control, that TG acted in a manner that caused tension with a lot of people. There was just too much happening around her that she had no control over; the student making threatening phone calls, AV and his obsessions, MH and that whole situation, SF and that scene, rumors were starting to be spread around Ocilla that put TG in a light other than the perfect image she portrayed. I think with her schedule and all things swirling around her, she put herself in harm's way without even realizing it.

IMO, I don't for one minute believe that TG left her home thinking she'd never make it back. I believe she left her home under her own power with the intentions of meeting someone she felt was her future. And, unfortunately, that future was cut tragically short.

Also, JMHO, I think that all this criticism of the GBI and the investigation is unfounded. They are not sitting on this case. They can't just do nothing because of forums like this, people actually calling and inquiring about TG's case and the pressure that the family puts on them daily.

These are just MHOs and nothing more. I'm just developing this theory and need to make a few more logical links before I go any further with it. But there's something hinky about the alibis of a few folks involved in TGs life, IMO. And, for the record, I don't think hiring an attorney is a sign of guilt, per se. I think it's the smart thing to do in situation like this. Of course, my opinion may be slightly biased:D But, then again, whose opinion isn't slightly biased.:shrug:

Why do we think TG received a call from the bar that night? It has been stated the caller was about to go to the bar ... not already at the bar. I stand to be corrected if someone has information that says otherwise.

simply quiet

09-23-2006, 01:41 PM

Originally posted by paranoidrox

http://www.crimelibrary.com/news/original/0906/2101_janet_chandler.html

I bet alot of you all read crimelibrary.com stories as I do, IMO. Look at this one, it's absolutely appalling!

In the past the *conspiracy theory* has been raised and promptly defeated in TG's case. I've tried to find the threads but, alas, so many have been deleted and banned posters' posts have also fallen by the wayside.

I'd like to throw out a scenario that, IMO, is plausible. Please don't take it personally and please don't go on the attack. Just read the article linked and then read what I think, OK?

We think we know that TG received a call from the bar that MH was in during the evening of 22 Oct. We think we know that MH was in said bar until approximately 0230 hours 23 Oct when he then hooked up with SF for a drive along, right? IMO, no one, including MHs relatives who were with him and drinking have pinpointed the exact time he left the bar, they weren't really paying attention to the time, that's what was said in the past and I am trying deperately to find the thread with the link to the local newspaper. So, just let's take that for what it's worth.

What if the call to TG from the bar was made by someone she trusted who passed along information that MH was there and, here's the stretch, wanted to see her. Come to the bar, TG, he's here and it's a chance to talk things out. Everyone close to TG has gone public that she was an emotional wreck. IMO, this call may have been the impetus that got TG to get in her car and drive there. Maybe MH met her outside and off they went.

I believe, IMO, that there is someone who knows what happened and who made it happen. I think that more than one person was involved in TG's disappearance. IMO, in her emotionally charged state and with things of the past year spiralling out of control, that TG acted in a manner that caused tension with a lot of people. There was just too much happening around her that she had no control over; the student making threatening phone calls, AV and his obsessions, MH and that whole situation, SF and that scene, rumors were starting to be spread around Ocilla that put TG in a light other than the perfect image she portrayed. I think with her schedule and all things swirling around her, she put herself in harm's way without even realizing it.

IMO, I don't for one minute believe that TG left her home thinking she'd never make it back. I believe she left her home under her own power with the intentions of meeting someone she felt was her future. And, unfortunately, that future was cut tragically short.

Also, JMHO, I think that all this criticism of the GBI and the investigation is unfounded. They are not sitting on this case. They can't just do nothing because of forums like this, people actually calling and inquiring about TG's case and the pressure that the family puts on them daily.

These are just MHOs and nothing more. I'm just developing this theory and need to make a few more logical links before I go any further with it. But there's something hinky about the alibis of a few folks involved in TGs life, IMO. And, for the record, I don't think hiring an attorney is a sign of guilt, per se. I think it's the smart thing to do in situation like this. Of course, my opinion may be slightly biased:D But, then again, whose opinion isn't slightly biased.:shrug:

Who do you think she was going to meet? Who do you think gave her the impression she had a future with them?

Do you have a NEW POI that so far has not been named?

Moms4Justice

09-23-2006, 03:05 PM

Originally posted by simply quiet

Who do you think she was going to meet? Who do you think gave her the impression she had a future with them?

Do you have a NEW POI that so far has not been named?

snip from paranoidrox
"Maybe MH met her outside and off they went."

I took it as the poi is MH. I can't speak for paranoidrox but thats what I got from the post.

BTW That was a good theory. Even if a POI we haven't discussed or we don't know about was who she went to meet. The person in the black truck at the pageant? An person online she had met? etc.

simply quiet

09-23-2006, 03:38 PM

Originally posted by Moms4Justice

snip from paranoidrox
"Maybe MH met her outside and off they went."

I took it as the poi is MH. I can't speak for paranoidrox but thats what I got from the post.

BTW That was a good theory. Even if a POI we haven't discussed or we don't know about was who she went to meet. The person in the black truck at the pageant? An person online she had met? etc.

MH.....IMO, just doesn't fit the MO of a POI.

He is not the jilted lover. He is not the one trying to keep the relationship from dying.

I just don't get looking at everything Tara was going through in the weeks leading up to the last night, how one would automatically point to MH.

Now, if MH went missing I could see where Tara may be the POI. But not the other way around.

JMHO

:shrug:

cbcrime

09-23-2006, 04:51 PM

I believe the reason everyone thinks the call was made from the bar is because in an article - IIRC Crime Library - Dr. G is quoted as saying that. When I have a chance I will go and look for it.

fsbiii

09-23-2006, 05:01 PM

One of Godwin's many assumptions or mis-statements, IMO. Most got edited or retracted. My info says that the friend wasn't providing info to Godwin, period, so I'm not sure how he surmised this outcome.

"According to his own account, and statements by others, Marcus Harper had been at a local tavern on the night that Tara vanished. A friend of Tara's had even spotted him there, according to Dr. Maurice Godwin, a criminologist who has been working on the case at the behest of Tara's family, and she called Tara between 10:15 and 10:30 that night, presumably to tell her so."

Originally posted by cbcrime
I believe the reason everyone thinks the call was made from the bar is because in an article - IIRC Crime Library - Dr. G is quoted as saying that. When I have a chance I will go and look for it.

gacountry

09-23-2006, 05:24 PM

Originally posted by cbcrime
I believe the reason everyone thinks the call was made from the bar is because in an article - IIRC Crime Library - Dr. G is quoted as saying that. When I have a chance I will go and look for it.

Way back in Jan. we had a poster to come on who said she was speaking for ME, I don't know if she was or not, but she did make it known she was her spokesperson in both her post and PM's, here and in other forums.
Some thought she had left the "not" out of her statement BUT if she did she did it over and over again.

Whatisgoingon
Member

Registered: Jan 2006
Location: Duluth Georgia
Posts: 41

I personnaly know ME and she has said from the beginning she was with him. That is no secret. And about the Godwin guy? He was freaking her out. She and Tara were very close, and that is it. She has nothing to hide trust me. I am not even on side but I know her through mutual friends and she is upset about this. She is a young woman who happened to be friends with Tara. They were big into pageants together. Her calling the night of a pageant probably was not out of the ordinary. She probably was asking about the pageant. I think that people should quit bringing this poor girl into it.

Lindsey

09-23-2006, 05:35 PM

Originally posted by gacountry

Way back in Jan. we had a poster to come on who said she was speaking for ME, I don't know if she was or not, but she did make it known she was her spokesperson in both her post and PM's, here and in other forums.
Some thought she had left the "not" out of her statement BUT if she did she did it over and over again.

Whatisgoingon
Member

Registered: Jan 2006
Location: Duluth Georgia
Posts: 41

I personnaly know ME and she has said from the beginning she was with him. That is no secret. And about the Godwin guy? He was freaking her out. She and Tara were very close, and that is it. She has nothing to hide trust me. I am not even on side but I know her through mutual friends and she is upset about this. She is a young woman who happened to be friends with Tara. They were big into pageants together. Her calling the night of a pageant probably was not out of the ordinary. She probably was asking about the pageant. I think that people should quit bringing this poor girl into it.

I'm looking for where it says she was at the bar when she called Tara. I don't see it and I thought that was the question.

IIRC, there was a large crowd at the bar that night to listen to a popular local band. I believe they started to play around 10:00. I just can't see anyone having a phone conversation while a band is playing in the background. Especially not one that lasted more than a minute.

I think this young lady was getting ready to go to the bar at the time she called Tara, not already at the bar.

fsbiii

09-23-2006, 05:38 PM

This was posted by "Sis" on TalkTara on 11-12-2005, speaking of Meghan Evans' relationship to Marcus Harper:

"Cousins thru marriage and hardly know one another...they have actually met only a few times b/c when he left for the army she was only 15 or so...and Meghan didn't see anything...she only talked to Tara on her cell phone once the pageant was over and was about to go out to the bar."

FWIW.

Its just me

09-23-2006, 05:45 PM

Originally posted by fsbiii
One of Godwin's many assumptions or mis-statements, IMO. Most got edited or retracted. My info says that the friend wasn't providing info to Godwin, period, so I'm not sure how he surmised this outcome.

"According to his own account, and statements by others, Marcus Harper had been at a local tavern on the night that Tara vanished. A friend of Tara's had even spotted him there, according to Dr. Maurice Godwin, a criminologist who has been working on the case at the behest of Tara's family, and she called Tara between 10:15 and 10:30 that night, presumably to tell her so."

Didn't Dr. G state that HD was last person to phone Tara at the bbq. Dr. G also stated HD was not in area when he made this call. I wish Dr. G would confirm what he has posted in bits and pieces in one outline of all the information he has provided so far.
ME posted on a board in the beginning she was 3 rd to last person to talk to Tara before she went missing. (Excited teenager or what but I have always wondered how she new this information) Dr. G said all calls made to Tara at bbq were pageant related except HD. Do anyone know who was the next to last person to call Tara or do I have it mixed up and ME was next to last person to call Tara. ME posted (I need to look back to be for sure) that she and Tara discussed the parade etc and this makes me think this was not a minute or so conversation. MHOO

Moms4Justice

09-23-2006, 06:16 PM

Originally posted by simply quiet

MH.....IMO, just doesn't fit the MO of a POI.

He is not the jilted lover. He is not the one trying to keep the relationship from dying.

I just don't get looking at everything Tara was going through in the weeks leading up to the last night, how one would automatically point to MH.

Now, if MH went missing I could see where Tara may be the POI. But not the other way around.

JMHO

:shrug:

I was just telling who I thought paranoidrox's POI in their theory was.
I said that it was a good theory even if a POI we haven't discussed or we don't know about was who she went to meet. The person in the black truck at the pageant? A person online she had met? etc.
Will you please stop trying to argue that MH is innocent with me.

TuscanDreams

09-23-2006, 08:46 PM

Originally posted by IrwinIndian
1) superficial charm
2) narcissistic
3) looking out for herself
4) calm demeanor
5) seething underneath
6) fascinated with watching this case
7) LE has talked to, but unsuspecting
8) single parent home
9) no strong emotional tie
10) younger than Tara

Take off 1 of these 10 and IMO there's a female POI very close to these things.

Do you think the female is participating in the case, searches, etc.? "Watching the case" from what viewpoint?

Actually, I don't have a clue who the female could be, because I don't follow this case as closely as other posters do.

And, I firmly believe that the person who took Tara is watching this case via the internet, the news, etc. They probably helped search for her- that happens in a lot of cases because the perp wants to find out what LE has on the potential suspect.

fsbiii

09-23-2006, 11:34 PM

She wasn't 18.

Originally posted by paranoidrox

This is an 18 year old kid going out to a bar??? I thought the legal drinking age was 21. What's a kid 18 doing in a bar to begin with?:shrug:

Lindsey

09-23-2006, 11:37 PM

Originally posted by paranoidrox

This is an 18 year old kid going out to a bar??? I thought the legal drinking age was 21. What's a kid 18 doing in a bar to begin with?:shrug:

She was not 18. She was 20 at that point in time, but still not legal drinking age. Can a person under 21 be in a bar if they aren't drinking? I don't know. I'm just asking.

Lindsey

09-23-2006, 11:39 PM

Originally posted by paranoidrox
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Its just me
[B]

You are correct. ME repeatedly stated that she was the 3rd to last person to talk to TG. Has anyone other than me hear of *67?

I think *67 blocks your number when you make a call if you don't want it to show up on the other person's Caller ID? Why do you ask?

Its just me

09-24-2006, 12:36 AM

Originally posted by paranoidrox

I ask because it's possible that's what happened. Someone made a call to TG and blocked their number. You could be anyone and anywhere and do that. How would anyone trace that call? Were there any PRIVATE NAME PRIVATE NUMBER calls to either of TGs phones? IMO and MOO.

I know when we get them on our phones our curiousity peaks and we answer. When we know who is calling, and it's usually one of our kids wanting money, we don't answer~:D

LOL I have a private number that calls but it's a former employee that always whats to borrow some money. I don't answer either.
If Tara had made no previous plans I think the calls and/or the pagaent holds some clues. MHOO I think if Tara left on her own she had already made some of the plans.

hypnotized

09-24-2006, 10:42 AM

Originally posted by Lindsey

I think *67 blocks your number when you make a call if you don't want it to show up on the other person's Caller ID? Why do you ask?

You are correct Lindsey, *67 blocks your CALLER ID info from the receiving end. Indications are that the number is/was trace-able.

I would imagine that call trace might have been activated, although I don't know if the 20-30 unanswered, incoming calls on Sunday and possibly Monday, would have negated this effort.

Additionally "...call trace information will only be released to law enforcement agencies... A trace will not always capture calls placed from mobile phones nor calls placed from a multi-line telephone system.....calls carried by some long distance networks may not be captured due to system incompatibility." [alltel info before becoming windstream.com]

I don't know which phone service the Ocilla area engages, but I would imagine that the call trace feature is a standard FCC requirement.

FWIW/IMO

heartskeep

09-24-2006, 04:11 PM

Originally posted by Lindsey

She was not 18. She was 20 at that point in time, but still not legal drinking age. Can a person under 21 be in a bar if they aren't drinking? I don't know. I'm just asking.

In many of the bars in Georgia, 18-20 year olds are allowed entrance. Most require them to wear an arm band or something to identify that they are under 21 and are (supposedly) not to be drinking. In Fitzgerald, it's not a big deal to see the young ones there. What really aggravates me, and I know it happens everywhere, is when they aren't sold the drinks...but some legal "friend" orders the drink and then gives it to them. (yes, I had older friends who bought it for me back in my younger days so I know it happens!) I carried my daughter with me to The Whitehorse before she was 21. Mainly because she loves dancing as much as I do. However, she was with me and I (and my friends) kept a CLOSE eye on her! Not everybody does this.

concernedperson

09-24-2006, 10:25 PM

Originally posted by heartskeep

In many of the bars in Georgia, 18-20 year olds are allowed entrance. Most require them to wear an arm band or something to identify that they are under 21 and are (supposedly) not to be drinking. In Fitzgerald, it's not a big deal to see the young ones there. What really aggravates me, and I know it happens everywhere, is when they aren't sold the drinks...but some legal "friend" orders the drink and then gives it to them. (yes, I had older friends who bought it for me back in my younger days so I know it happens!) I carried my daughter with me to The Whitehorse before she was 21. Mainly because she loves dancing as much as I do. However, she was with me and I (and my friends) kept a CLOSE eye on her! Not everybody does this.

Your heart is always true. I also love dancing as a way to find ourselves. Blessed be the meek for they shall inherit the earth.

Its just me

09-25-2006, 01:40 AM

Originally posted by paranoidrox

Do you really think Tara left on her own? It would take a lot for a person like TG to just leave behind everything and go. I used to think that maybe that was the case but I think it was just because I really want this young lady to be alive. I hope and pray she is alive. But, my practical side says that isn't so. I would so love for that young lady with the beautiful smile to one day walk back into the life she once owned but I sincerely doubt that is going to happen. Someone decided she no longer belonged here and took from TG the one precious gift we all have, life. That is my opinion and my opinion only. I don't usually get to this point.:(

I truly believe it is possible Tara left on her own but only with intentions to be gone for only a few days and things got much bigger over her disappearance than she had expected and she is not strong enough to come after all that has happened. I have no problem believing she left under these circumstances. In my mind after considering all things I don't think she left intending to make a new life. The only thing that keeps me from saying this is not possible is there is no real evidence that she didn't. When someone disappears leaving everything behind there is always some issue in their life that that is the main factor in a disappearance. MHOO My information is that Tara was not a stable person prior to her disappearing but if she left never to return it was much more than a break with MH. Do I rule out MH being part of this "IF" Tara left never to return ...No I do not.... Can I say MH would have had deeper involvement than a lover break up...No I can't. I pray the investigators are considering all possibilities.
If Tara was killed I do not think it was a premeditated crime that was carefully planed but I really can't rule it out. If Tara is dead the perp so far have covered their tracks. No one can say for sure when Tara disappeared but I personally think it was before good daylight Sunday morning and I definitely think the dark truck seen at her house around 5:30 - 6:00 am Sunday morning is involved. (Whether Tara is alive or dead) I also think there could be a strong lead with the black truck in Fitzgerald or the two could be one of the same. With this said the perp had all day Sunday and Sunday night and into Monday before people would start looking seriously at anyone. So there is as great possibility that Tara's body is not in Irwin County if she is dead. If Tara is dead and was killed by someone from Irwin County there is a possibility the body is close by and have been walked all around by information of the dense population in the entire county and the much-wooded areas that would be impossible to search every inch.
There is much information about the wonderful person Tara is/was and I believe every word of it. But there is also information that no one really talks about very much and it is a strong southern thing to respect the dead and leave slander behind the door because the person cannot defend their self. If anyone really wants to determine the truth that could lead to Tara the other side of Tara will have to be considered at some point whether they think she is alive or dead. I am by no means saying Tara caused her death if she is dead but things must be considered to get to the truth. All MHOO

cbcrime

09-25-2006, 09:56 AM

I also believe Tara could have left on her own. What I do not believe is that LE knows this for a fact. If LE knew she was okay the case classification would be changed. If she did not want contact with her family then it would be handled by the family being told that LE had made contact with her and she all right but did not want contact with the family. No way would LE keep resources on a missing persons case when they knew the person was not missing. Now that does not mean that they might not suspect that she went missing voluntarily. Thus when locals ask local LE they might get the response - oh we think she left on her own. Missing persons are put into a nationwide missing and unidentified persons database. LE has a responsibility to remove any found person. Additionally, if you did not have to deal with this case any longer would you continue with it? So the idea that LE knows she is okay and is continuing this case despite that fact makes no sense.

I believe that you do have to look at Tara and what was happening in her life before she left. IMO her lifestyle was not as low risk as it would seem. She had turmoil regarding relationships. And it is very possible she let the wrong person into her life. I just wish that Tara could be found and some answers found also.

tiffanycw3

09-25-2006, 12:06 PM

Almost 1 year, and still no Tara. It makes me so sad and I didn't even know her. Months ago, Dolly was still outside at Tara's house along with her cat. Does anyone know if Dolly is still there or has someone taken her? Prayers for Tara and that she is found.

butterbean

09-25-2006, 02:38 PM

Did Dolly have a red leash? If Tara had taken Dolly inside with her when Tara came home from the BBQ then is it possible that her abductor returned Dolly to the backyard with a red leash?

Originally posted by Babes

J.K.S.'s DNA can be found at this house...its on a red dog collar of a German Sheppard.

Brian [/B]

From the Dateline show:
Tara’s dog, normally inside at night, was instead left out Saturday night, furiously barking according to neighbors in the early morning hours on Sunday._

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12583446/

Its just me

09-25-2006, 07:47 PM

Originally posted by paranoidrox

Where was Dolly all day Sunday, Sunday night and Monday morning when the first people arrived? Surely if Dolly was out Sunday night she would have barked when HD came by. JMO.

In an interview the neigbors discussed Dollie barking during the Sunday AM hours. I think it was mentioned Dollie had kept the wife up all night and the dog really barked around 7:00 that Sunday morning. Keeping wife up all night I took to mean that the wife maybe had heard dog barking of an on during the night and not that the wife had actually been up all night. Just MOO
While the dog barking during Sunday am was discussed I have read nothing about Dollie barking Monday am while HD was at Tara's. But the HD phone call to Tara's mother was left out but not the call's and messages to Tara made by HD. No information concerning HD has been provided by the family and possible the neighbor. This is something I have never understood.
The Dog had been discussed on the boards and I have never read that Dollie was anywhere but in the pen and it was mentioned in the beginning about the dog being fed so my guess is the dog was in the backyard at Tara's. MHOO

Results

09-25-2006, 08:01 PM

Originally posted by Its just me

In an interview the neigbors discussed Dollie barking during the Sunday AM hours. I think it was mentioned Dollie had kept the wife up all night and the dog really barked around 7:00 that Sunday morning. Keeping wife up all night I took to mean that the wife maybe had heard dog barking of an on during the night and not that the wife had actually been up all night. Just MOO
While the dog barking during Sunday am was discussed I have read nothing about Dollie barking Monday am while HD was at Tara's. But the HD phone call to Tara's mother was left out but not the call's and messages to Tara made by HD. No information concerning HD has been provided by the family and possible the neighbor. This is something I have never understood.
The Dog had been discussed on the boards and I have never read that Dollie was anywhere but in the pen and it was mentioned in the beginning about the dog being fed so my guess is the dog was in the backyard at Tara's. MHOO

What I don't understand is how 1 person out of the whole neighborhood heard Dolly barking? The husband didn't hear Dolly and the other neighbors didn't hear Dolly. That to me seems strange but that is just my opinion.

Its just me

09-25-2006, 08:44 PM

Originally posted by paranoidrox

What seems strange to me is that the wife, after "being kept up all night" by the barking dog, didn't attempt to say something to TG about it. Or, for that matter notice that the dog was still outside and presumably outside all day Sunday, Sunday night and Monday morning when the first responders arrived, IMO. Surely, if TG went missing Saturday night or early Sunday morning, the dog had to have been hungry, scared and lonely for her daily dose of human contact. Just would like to know why nobody noticed this especially since the wife was bothered by her barking. JMHO.

Do any local know if Dollie was brought inside at night. I have heard she was brought inside and heard she stayed outside at night. If Dollie stayed inside at night it should have sent a single that something was wrong by her being in the pen all night and Tara's car home. The neighbors appear to have been close to Tara and the neighbor Mr. P stated he went to Tara's on Sat. to see how Tara's had done his granddaughters hair. If the dog stayed inside and Tara had plans to be gone and leave Dollie outside she may have mentioned this to the neighbor but there has been no public info on this. My thoughts are Dollie probably stated out side at night but if Dollie stayed inside the neighbors lack of concern would be strange. JMHOO

concernedperson

09-25-2006, 09:38 PM

I think Dollie was a outside dog. No basis but months and months of postings. The fencing etc. is one giveaway. Real inside dogs are more prone to being needy. If Dollie was an inside dog Tara would have to tend to her more but this doesnt seem to be the case. She was pet sitting for another dog in the fenced area.

The cat inside with outside privileges and the dog with outside privileges is the way I see it.

Its just me

09-25-2006, 10:09 PM

Originally posted by concernedperson
I think Dollie was a outside dog. No basis but months and months of postings. The fencing etc. is one giveaway. Real inside dogs are more prone to being needy. If Dollie was an inside dog Tara would have to tend to her more but this doesnt seem to be the case. She was pet sitting for another dog in the fenced area.

The cat inside with outside privileges and the dog with outside privileges is the way I see it.

I'm with you cp. The only evidence I have has been in a news report and reading many there have been things stated that simply are not correct. It being reported the dog barked a lot Sunday am hours and the dark truck being at Tara's around 6:00 am Sunday morning is something that I think holds a very important clue. Could have been a stray dog that Dolly barked at but the truck being present makes me think other wise. MHOO I think things were going on at Tara's after she returned home from the bbq until early Sunday am. What is the question.

cbcrime

09-26-2006, 11:36 AM

Originally posted by Its just me

I'm with you cp. The only evidence I have has been in a news report and reading many there have been things stated that simply are not correct. It being reported the dog barked a lot Sunday am hours and the dark truck being at Tara's around 6:00 am Sunday morning is something that I think holds a very important clue. Could have been a stray dog that Dolly barked at but the truck being present makes me think other wise. MHOO I think things were going on at Tara's after she returned home from the bbq until early Sunday am. What is the question.

IJM - this post just clicked with me. I know that some feel Tara just left her life and walked away. I don't think her leaving was voluntary. Because like you I don't kow all of what happened at Tara's but something out of the ordinary was happening. And if Tara was there - I don't think the dog would have been barking. In otherwords, if she was leaving voluntarily she wouldn't let the dog bark - she'd bring him etc. I know that people will say - he could have been barking at something else. But apparently Dolly barking doesn't seem to be an on going problem. The neighbor would have said - oh Dolly was barking again. The statement made it sound more like - what's up with Dolly's barking. I don't know - it is such a little thing. But it seems like between the truck and the dog barking - for me - it leans more toward an involuntary leaving. JMHO

mooloo

09-26-2006, 11:49 AM

I have been told by a very reliable source, in person--no link, that the house was neatened and straightened up and things like pictures were added, moved and rearranged before a camera crew got there. Some things disappeared and some were added. Do not know who did this, but I was told it was done.

Originally posted by paranoidrox
Bumping with a question along a different line of thought:

During the NG interview in TG's home, much was made of the photos and whatnot indicating TG's great love of family and friends. Did anyone happen to notice during the panning of the rooms any photos of TG with some of the men in her life, MH, HD, for example. I'd be very interested to know if she kept photos of at least MH around since it's been beaten to death that she was pining for him. IMO, the absence of any photos may be very telling. Of course, the family may have taken them down prior to the interview, IMO.

All just my honest opinion.

Its just me

09-26-2006, 12:33 PM

Originally posted by Mannequin
if the person went so far to tell you all that was done with that detail the person would be there to see it done and would remember who did it. no one did anything like that at all and you should ask your friend why they said that. also there would be no reason for that anyway. if anything was taken out of the house the person had no permission to be there imo.

In looking at the internet published pictures taken in Tara's house and comparing them it appears things were moved. Look at them close and see what you determine. I can always be wrong.

cbcrime

09-26-2006, 12:35 PM

Mannequin how do you know this isn't true? Where you at Tara's every minute since she went missing? How can you state with such authority this did not happen. Just curious.

sage

09-26-2006, 12:43 PM

There were many differences in the house from the Greta interview and the NGrace interview Anita also stated she had made the bed (she seemed very proud of herself for doing this btw).
I think if Tara was still at home when Dolly was barking she would have been woke by it and would have stopped the barking. JMHOO

simply quiet

09-26-2006, 12:53 PM

Originally posted by cbcrime
Mannequin how do you know this isn't true? Where you at Tara's every minute since she went missing? How can you state with such authority this did not happen. Just curious.

Excellent question.

sage

09-26-2006, 01:10 PM

paranoidrox

I would also think that the neighbor would have wanted to know
what TG thought about there Granddaughters first pagent also, and would have went over to talk to her. Seems rather strange to me also.
The neighbors and TG were very close Mr. P had lunch everyday with TG at the school, they watched for her light, took care of her animals when she was gone, had keys to her house and car, why didnt they check on her when Dolly was barking that would have been a sign of trouble I would think. STRANGE
JMHOO

Lindsey

09-26-2006, 01:15 PM

Originally posted by paranoidrox

Sage,

I think that was the point I was trying to get to all along, thanks! If TG were home I don't believe she would have allowed the barking to go on. IMO, she didn't appear to be an inconsiderate neighbor. That's why I'm curious where Dolly was for the remainder of the weekend. If TG was the type to turn on her light so the neighbors would know she made it home and Mr. P was there Sat afternoon to see his granddaughter's hair, doesn't it stand to reason that they'd want to talk to TG about the pageant on Sunday, IMO. Doesn't make you wonder why they didn't notice something out of the ordinary, TG's dog out, car in drive, no sign of TG at all:shrug: Why they suddenly became concerned on Monday and not sooner seems a little hinky to me. IMO, they seemed to be close neighbors, surely Dolly, being a larger dog and outdoors, would run out of food sometime Sunday, IMO. Somethings off here I just can't put my finger on it.

All JMHO.

No, it doesn't stand to reason the neighbors would want to talk to Tara about the pageant on Sunday.

1.) If they wanted to to talk about how their granddaughter did in the pageant, they would ask their son and daughter-in-law, not Tara.
2.) They spent the day on Sunday with their family on the farm. Mr P said they left home that morning and returned home approx 8:00pm Sunday night.

Results

09-26-2006, 03:34 PM

Originally posted by sage
paranoidrox

I would also think that the neighbor would have wanted to know
what TG thought about there Granddaughters first pagent also, and would have went over to talk to her. Seems rather strange to me also.
The neighbors and TG were very close Mr. P had lunch everyday with TG at the school, they watched for her light, took care of her animals when she was gone, had keys to her house and car, why didnt they check on her when Dolly was barking that would have been a sign of trouble I would think. STRANGE
JMHOO

I may have read more into your post but I have to ask. Did Tara and Mr P have lunch alone everyday at school or were there other people present at school while they were eating lunch? There is a big difference in the two....that is why I am asking. TIA

gacountry

09-26-2006, 05:31 PM

Originally posted by Results

I may have read more into your post but I have to ask. Did Tara and Mr P have lunch alone everyday at school or were there other people present at school while they were eating lunch? There is a big difference in the two....that is why I am asking. TIA

I am not being rude in anyway here BUT when I read this post I got a visual image of a quite intimate lunch date, then I woke up and remembered how lunch in a public school lunchroom really is, but I guess it could have been peanutbutter&jelly sandwiches in the parking lot? But I can betcha if their lunch was at the school it was far from being private and there was lots of students and teachers even janitors around.

mooloo

09-26-2006, 05:39 PM

not necessarily.....there are a lot of places to eat lunch in peace and quiet (relatively speaking) and away from other people at schools.....while it wouldn't be the most luxurious nor exquisite setting, an intimate lunch date would certainly be possible.

Teachers do not have to eat in the lunchroom, nor do they have to eat with their students....thank goodness.

Originally posted by gacountry

I am not being rude in anyway here BUT when I read this post I got a visual image of a quite intimate lunch date, then I woke up and remembered how lunch in a public school lunchroom really is, but I guess it could have been peanutbutter&jelly sandwiches in the parking lot? But I can betcha if their lunch was at the school it was far from being private and there was lots of students and teachers even janitors around.

barefoot

09-26-2006, 05:40 PM

I am not being rude in anyway here BUT when I read this post I got a visual image of a quite intimate lunch date, then I woke up and remembered how lunch in a public school lunchroom really is, but I guess it could have been peanutbutter&jelly sandwiches in the parking lot? But I can betcha if their lunch was at the school it was far from being private and there was lots of students and teachers even janitors around.

In both of the schools where I've taught, a lot of teachers eat lunch in their classrooms or in a friend's room, one-on-one. I wouldn't say it's private in the sense that a couple of people could do anything private, but I tend to eat lunch alone in my office at school and I'm rarely interrupted by anyone, as the kids are generally all in the cafeteria. It's conceivable that Tara and a friend would be able to meet regularly and "privately" for lunch.

sweettater

09-26-2006, 07:27 PM

Originally posted by IrwinIndian
Look at the pictures and you can see lots of photos on the refrigerator. Also one framed on a table in her bedroom.

Who were in the pictures? Were they all pictures of Tara's friends or family or who? (I don't remember ever seeing them.) And why were they changed? And what were they changed to? This is the first I have heard of this and I find it very strange and interesting that someone would have changed them.

concernedperson

09-26-2006, 07:35 PM

How do we know Mr. P. ate lunch with Tara everyday? That seems extreme. No one eats lunch with the same people everyday unless you are a retired couple.

Maybe he dropped in from time to time but daily, I just don't see this. He seems to be preoccupied with his new home setting on the farm. I think that maybe they were caught up in the moment where the P's said they watched for her light and the animals etc.

Not trying to insert themselves so much but trying to say they care and did a lot.I don't know it could be the most bizarre thing that every happened but I don't see these people as truly involved in anything that happened to Tara.

Its just me

09-26-2006, 11:01 PM

Originally posted by barry9120
It's been a while, but I've been watching the posts and I think I have a few comments to pass along here. I'm not going to be too rude or too NY this time, but.....

Why would someone say they had lunch with TG everyday when we know from previously documented statements that it is not true. WE KNOW SHE LEFT FOR LUNCH WITH OTHERS.

How old is Mr. P? Just a question.

Also, a good point was brought up previously, who eats lunch with the same person every day?

Why would the Mr. and Mrs. P's be at the ICHS at lunch time every day?

What's the point? This whole line of thinking is just too weird. Who were they really in TG's life?

First we hear that the bedroom light is a significant signal that Mrs. P regularly looks out the window to see if it is on and then we hear that it's not too much of a problem is they don't see a light in the bedroom at all during the weekend. I'm sorry, but I'm not liking them in this scenario as reliable at all. They're too wishy washy for me. JMHO and please don't take it personally but I think these two folks found their 15 minutes of fame and then moved on.

I think Mr. and Mrs. P were just wonderful older southern neighbors who lived next door to a single woman and became very close to Tara and helped her with many things.
Tara went out of town 3 nights a week to different colleges taking night classes. To my understanding the light coming on was important on these 3 nights to let the neighbors know that Tara had returned home safe. I think the lamp signal was given only on the nights Tara was on the road. I base my thoughts by reading the information posted in the beginning and contacts made.
There was information about Mr. P eating lunch with Tara at school but I have never been able to confirm that this is true. As far as I can learn the P's are outstanding citizens in Ocilla and would not appear to be people looking for 15 minutes of fame. As always I am open and will consider all discussion.

justthinking

09-26-2006, 11:45 PM

Does anyone remember where the MARINE MAN posts were?

Off topic, I know. Thanks

Its just me

09-27-2006, 01:50 AM

Originally posted by Mannequin
every barking dog isnt a sign of trouble that start people running out of their houses in a panic. dogs bark all the time. maybe the neighbors didnt go over because they were one of the few peopleleft in Ocilla that do mind their own business.

Your are right every barking dog is not a sign of "trouble" but generally is a sign of something and it would depend on the dog's regular habits. I don't have any close neighbors and if my dog barks a lot it puts me on alert that something is going on outside. Most of the time is another animal. Mr. P make the remark that Mrs. P had made the remark that Dolly had kept her up all night (probably meant off and on during the night) and did a lot of barking early am. People disappearing is not a usual thing in small towns in South Georgia so I can relate to Mr. and Mrs. P getting up and talking about the dog barking but it probably never crossed their minds that something was wrong at Tara's. They left and went to the farm and came home Sunday evening and saw Tara's car there and noticed no lights on and still thought every thing was ok simply because this is not a high crime rate area. The P's got a call from Tara's mother at approximate 12:15 am Monday morning asking about Tara and said everything looked ok and it appears they did not go to check after knowing that Dolly barked and was unsettled. This is where my problem comes in but it may be something where hindsight is 20/20 and Dolly could have been a barker and the neighbors thought nothing about it except it was sometimes a nuisance. Without searching the interviews with the neighbor Mr.P.; Do anyone know why Mr. P became alarmed Monday morning? Did someone from the school call or did FG or MHu call him or maybe Tara had not left for school. TYIA for any information or thoughts. All MHOO I don't think anyone posting on a message board can say anything about people minding their own business, I know I can't. MHOO but I personally take it as a fact.

mooloo

09-27-2006, 06:32 AM

I must've missed the post that said Mr. and Mrs. P ate lunch every day with Tara. Didn't see that one.

Originally posted by barry9120
It's been a while, but I've been watching the posts and I think I have a few comments to pass along here. I'm not going to be too rude or too NY this time, but.....

Why would someone say they had lunch with TG everyday when we know from previously documented statements that it is not true. WE KNOW SHE LEFT FOR LUNCH WITH OTHERS.

How old is Mr. P? Just a question.

Also, a good point was brought up previously, who eats lunch with the same person every day?

Why would the Mr. and Mrs. P's be at the ICHS at lunch time every day?

What's the point? This whole line of thinking is just too weird. Who were they really in TG's life?

First we hear that the bedroom light is a significant signal that Mrs. P regularly looks out the window to see if it is on and then we hear that it's not too much of a problem is they don't see a light in the bedroom at all during the weekend. I'm sorry, but I'm not liking them in this scenario as reliable at all. They're too wishy washy for me. JMHO and please don't take it personally but I think these two folks found their 15 minutes of fame and then moved on.

Moms4Justice

09-27-2006, 06:41 AM

Originally posted by justthinking
Does anyone remember where the MARINE MAN posts were?

Off topic, I know. Thanks

There is quite a few over at the CB forum. :patriot:

Son Of A Gun

09-27-2006, 07:37 AM

Originally posted by barry9120

IMO, nothing is really off topic in this case. It's one of the most bizarre missing persons cases I've ever seen. Any and every scenario is possible, IMO.

Why are Marine Man's posts significant? I don't ever remember seeing MM post here and I couldn't find a user nic on these boards in that name. If MM posts over on the CB boards I would suspect that he/she is a supporter of the theory that TG met with foul play and is no longer with us, IMO and MOO. While that is a possibility, there has yet to be any evidence forth coming that there was foul play involved so the theory that TG walked away from it all is just as viable, JMHO. I'd like to think that she duped them all and left of her own free will.

Just curious, do you think that Tara was that devious of a person to run off without telling people and also sit back and let all the volunteers that are spending their own time and money searching for her? If Tara ran off on her own, I am sure she would have been curious as to what was going on and checked the news and missing persons sites to find out. I don't believe for one minute that Tara is a devious person at all to pull a stunt like this.

concernedperson

09-27-2006, 08:20 AM

It is a mystery and the fence is where most are as there are very few facts. The absolute best thing would be if LE released an official timeline from what they have been able to ascertain. Mainly, phone records, then more tips could come in and more people would have memory refreshing.

Knowing some of Melinda Duckett's timeline has brought new tips to LE in Florida. This gives an opportunity for Trenton to be found which is more than can be said for Tara.

Its just me

09-27-2006, 11:19 AM

Originally posted by paranoidrox

I agree with you. In the Duckett case releasing that information resulted in at least two individuals coming forward to provide witness statements that they saw her alone.

If there's any information on TG like credit card receipts, gas station receipts, anything that is timed and dated, it might jog people's memory, IMO. However, it has been almost a year and most people can't remember what they had for breakfast, IMO.

Maybe the GBI need to rethink their logic in investigating cases. There are several murder cases in surrounding area that have not been solved. I read on one message board that there are 9 in Coffee County but I am not confirming this to be the exact number.... I do know for a fact there are several which the GBI were called in.... There are two that I guarantee you the GBI will not solve. One is the Christy Myers murder case and the other is a Bill H. murder case (need to look up spelling of last name) No comment on why I know this. If the GBI reads this boards they know.
JMHOO

mooloo

09-27-2006, 12:40 PM

So Mr. P said he ate lunch with Tara everyday? just the two of them? This was stated by him in the interview with NG? Did he say that Mrs. P joined them or was it just the two of them, Mr. P and Tara?

Originally posted by barry9120
The lunch every day comment was made in an NG interview by Mr. P. I don't believe Mrs. P ever gave an official interview, IMO. If she has, I can't find it.

But, I do know from the NG interview that the Portiers could not see TGs car if it was in the carport and that Mrs. P would have to go to a specific window in her house to see if the light was on. Mr. P stated that it was not unusual for the bedroom light not to be on over the weekend because TG had studying to do and papers to grade. Seems they know an awful lot about TGs comings and goings in general, but when it comes down to the important specifics of the weekend she went missing, they offer very little in terms of important information that could help with the investigation, IMOO.

Elle_Woods

09-27-2006, 03:33 PM

This information was stated by a member who posts by the name of Sage at my forum. I believe this person got this info from what she has read over the months at other Tara forums and sincerely thought she was passing on valuable info. So, if it's not accurate, go figure. But, either way, I think it's safe to say the "everyday" thing is possibly an exaggeration or generalization.

cbcrime

09-27-2006, 04:04 PM

This is a post made by luvmy2labpups on 5/15/06

Tara and the neighbor

"Many rumors are floating around and I wanted to see if any of you can provide any clarification. I have read that he visited with Tara at lunch quite often, he went shopping with Tara both with and without his wife, that he went to ball games w/tara with and without his wife. Do we know if this is the case? How would someone who knows about this relationship describe it? (father like?) Does he and his wife own a secondary property in town or out of town? Does anybody know where they were coming back from on the weekend Tara went missing? I have a bazillion other questions but if anybody can provide answers to this, it would be great. I will ask the other questions as we go along."

THis was on the thread Did Tara Just Walk Away From Her Life.

Elle_Woods

09-27-2006, 11:34 PM

Originally posted by barry9120

You're good, it was Sage who posted it here. I guess after my "time out" I'm just being extra careful about responding to posts. I wonder how long that will last:D

No problem and I hear ya. lol ;)

Elle_Woods

09-28-2006, 12:28 AM

Originally posted by cbcrime
This is a post made by luvmy2labpups on 5/15/06

Tara and the neighbor

"Many rumors are floating around and I wanted to see if any of you can provide any clarification. I have read that he visited with Tara at lunch quite often, he went shopping with Tara both with and without his wife, that he went to ball games w/tara with and without his wife. Do we know if this is the case? How would someone who knows about this relationship describe it? (father like?) Does he and his wife own a secondary property in town or out of town? Does anybody know where they were coming back from on the weekend Tara went missing? I have a bazillion other questions but if anybody can provide answers to this, it would be great. I will ask the other questions as we go along."

THis was on the thread Did Tara Just Walk Away From Her Life.

Thanks for finding that. Sage shared this information with us not that long ago, posted June 2006, after the above post. So either she read that post and took it as a reliable source or she's been told things by the same person as the other ctv member who mentioned it.

Son Of A Gun

10-04-2006, 07:06 PM

Originally posted by IrwinIndian
Anything to this fodder or was it just for attention?

:shrug:

Didn't you just do the same thing on this thread asking a question that you would like the answer to?

Next.

Gooch

10-04-2006, 09:03 PM

Originally posted by Its just janice

II, I just came on this board to post 24 hours ago and you seem to have *an issue* with me. What is it? Your posts make no sense. What press conference??? Who is VAR? Chill out and just say what you mean. You are blaming me for something I know nothing about, and from the looks of your posts it will take me years to decipher what it is. Why are you trying to do harm to a poster just asking questions?

Most here are just disgusted with your choice of name.. ANd yes as long as people come in here with nics that are trying to jab at others they all will be taken lightly. I know and you know that you are just another one of the Queens men.. Remember

The truth will set you free...

Gooch

10-04-2006, 11:31 PM

Originally posted by Its just janice

Why would anyone be *disgusted* with my choice of name?? Queens men?? Clarify please...LOL This is getting more bizarre by the minute. I thought this was a discussion forum? I have taken NO JABS at others. I have asked simple questions and posted believable theories. You and your shadow, on the other hand, have immediately jumped in my face, harassed me, insulted me and attempted to show superior intelligence to me. All because my name is Janice? And what's with the "truth will set you free" quote? This is the most wacked message board I've ever seen in my life. When I first read the article about this forum, I thought it HAD to be an exaggeration-- I was curious. But after being here a day or so, I've totally changed my mind about it and concluded it was right on target with no exaggerating at ALL. My thoughts? You people are nut cases and belong in some sort of high security insane asylum..LOL... These behavior traits of yours would make great experimental tools for future medical studies. How about you donate your brain to the Our Lady of the Criminally Insane Research Hospital? I'm sure they'd appreciate it, and it's not like you'd miss it.

Cya later. I can research this case elsewhere. This board is a joke. Shame on you, CourtTV, for allowing this childish crap. Seeing is believing, and I think I've seen enough. CourtTV has sunk to an all time low with this forum...
:no:

Eeeeh move on.... We fully expect to see a brand new NIC very soon... oops looky there It's ALLabout me?.. Come on... I am amazed at the insanity..

Results

10-04-2006, 11:41 PM

Originally posted by Gooch

Eeeeh move on.... We fully expect to see a brand new NIC very soon... oops looky there It's ALLabout me?.. Come on... I am amazed at the insanity..

LMAO....so true. The sad part is out of all the post on this thread from this poster Tara's name was used once. These are the same people that proclaim that they are here for Tara. Action speeks louder then words. I think this posters post clearly shows Tara was not on her/his mind when they posted. JMHO

Its just me

10-05-2006, 02:27 AM

Originally posted by Its just janice

Why would anyone be *disgusted* with my choice of name?? Queens men?? Clarify please...LOL This is getting more bizarre by the minute. I thought this was a discussion forum? I have taken NO JABS at others. I have asked simple questions and posted believable theories. You and your shadow, on the other hand, have immediately jumped in my face, harassed me, insulted me and attempted to show superior intelligence to me. All because my name is Janice? And what's with the "truth will set you free" quote? This is the most wacked message board I've ever seen in my life. When I first read the article about this forum, I thought it HAD to be an exaggeration-- I was curious. But after being here a day or so, I've totally changed my mind about it and concluded it was right on target with no exaggerating at ALL. My thoughts? You people are nut cases and belong in some sort of high security insane asylum..LOL... These behavior traits of yours would make great experimental tools for future medical studies. How about you donate your brain to the Our Lady of the Criminally Insane Research Hospital? I'm sure they'd appreciate it, and it's not like you'd miss it.

Cya later. I can research this case elsewhere. This board is a joke. Shame on you, CourtTV, for allowing this childish crap. Seeing is believing, and I think I've seen enough. CourtTV has sunk to an all time low with this forum...
:no:

{{All because my name is Janice? }}

Now just why do you think Janice has anything to do with this so early in your posting. Careful don't say too much. And some have all three. WHO...:lol:

cbcrime

10-05-2006, 09:45 AM

I can not control what other people post, I can only control my reaction. I've been trying very hard to live by this rule. And it is not easy. The best way to not let a thread get derailed is to not respond to the off topic posts. This is not easy and I struggle daily with this. I try to not let it get under my skin. Again it isn't easy because I'm the type that wants to give it back in the face. So I'm learning patience and that in your face is not always the answer. These are my lessons to learn not necessarily anyone elses. However, out of all of this - we let the thread get derailed. We take the bait and off they go. If we can just keep posting about the topic maybe the multiple personalities would be thwarted. IMHO

Gooch

10-05-2006, 11:40 AM

Originally posted by Its just janice
PART 2 (don't lose count of the times I mentioned Tara):
***
It's posts like this that I find strange. I read this whole thread and don't see anything that looks like "baiting". If talking about an ebay account is "baiting" then what do you know that you don't want someone else to know? Are you selling something you are not supposed to be selling (or buying) on ebay? You just sounded very paranoid about it and seemed to seek out this thread (dormant for some time) for the sole purpose of flinging an insult at someone asking a question. Why? Was something learned from Tara's ebay account? Anyone know???
***
II, I just came on this board to post 24 hours ago and you seem to have *an issue* with me. What is it? Your posts make no sense. What press conference??? Who is VAR? Chill out and just say what you mean. You are blaming me for something I know nothing about, and from the looks of your posts it will take me years to decipher what it is. Why are you trying to do harm to a poster just asking questions?
***
Don't attack or call me stupid, but I don't get why that question about signing in was mean. The school shootings were indeed very sad, but wouldn't "signing in" be a sign of better security? What's "mean" about that question he asked?
***
Why would anyone be *disgusted* with my choice of name?? Queens men?? Clarify please...LOL This is getting more bizarre by the minute. I thought this was a discussion forum? I have taken NO JABS at others. I have asked simple questions and posted believable theories. You and your shadow, on the other hand, have immediately jumped in my face, harassed me, insulted me and attempted to show superior intelligence to me. All because my name is Janice? And what's with the "truth will set you free" quote? This is the most wacked message board I've ever seen in my life. When I first read the article about this forum, I thought it HAD to be an exaggeration-- I was curious. But after being here a day or so, I've totally changed my mind about it and concluded it was right on target with no exaggerating at ALL. My thoughts? You people are nut cases and belong in some sort of high security insane asylum..LOL... These behavior traits of yours would make great experimental tools for future medical studies. How about you donate your brain to the Our Lady of the Criminally Insane Research Hospital? I'm sure they'd appreciate it, and it's not like you'd miss it.Cya later. I can research this case elsewhere. This board is a joke. Shame on you, CourtTV, for allowing this childish crap. Seeing is believing, and I think I've seen enough. CourtTV has sunk to an all time low with this forum...

You did a whole lot of searching... To show us you have a reading comprehension problem... She said on THIS THREAD... Results info was accurate..

Lindsey

10-05-2006, 01:03 PM

Originally posted by Its just janice

LOLOL...THANK YOU for beating the path to the fact that I was counting on you people bringing that up, which leads me to open this door: On THIS THREAD....Irwin, you mentioned her ZERO times, Gooch, ZERO,....shall I go on?

My point is, you people are NUTS, and desperate for attention. You just proved my assumption, and so well too. You aren't happy unless you are arguing over some insignificant fact, fiction or rumor. If there's no argument, then you retreat. You people were always picked last in school for the kick ball team weren't you? Grow up.

LOL. Thanks for the entertainment, but I must be on my way now. I have a real life, you know. But I just HAD to lead you there, just to see if I could do it...

:seeya:

Go look in the mirror and say that (underlined above) again. And then go on and do your nic switch. It's about time.

JMO IMO MOO

Its just me

10-05-2006, 01:59 PM

Originally posted by Lindsey

Go look in the mirror and say that (underlined above) again. And then go on and do your nic switch. It's about time.

JMO IMO MOO

Now what a waste of time all this has been. Not one thing acomplished by ItsJustJanice. Simply nothing.

Its just me

10-05-2006, 02:13 PM

Originally posted by barry9120

IMO, that was her goal. Hit and run. There'll be a new one in a little while:rolleyes:

At least nothing was accomplished on a thread probably started to accomplish nothing, IMO.

I agree and I guess it will continue to be a never ending affair and I think all this is being done by a very few people. The one good thing about a nic is it will avoid someone from possibly being labeled in real life for the kind of person they appear to be hiding behind a nic. Sowers of discord.

Gooch

10-05-2006, 02:24 PM

simply quiet

10-05-2006, 02:57 PM

Originally posted by Its just janice

<snipped>

CourtTV has sunk to an all time low with this forum...
:no:

:lol: I don't think being here for 48 hrs qualifies you to be an authority on the highs and lows of this MB.

You did say you were a "newbie" right?

I would stick around and read if I were you.

OT

There have been many discussions over the years here on CTV with the various Water clan about letting newbies post right out of the gate. Lots of people thought it might be a way to control trolls, by having them read for a week/month before they were able to post. Unfortunately, it never came to be. But the subject does come up every now and then.

Back to the topic of Tara

Have there been any new interviews from the TV station there with Anita?

odette

10-05-2006, 03:16 PM

Originally posted by barry9120

I agree about the posting out of the box thing.

Maybe the new nic of the day can help! Nic name is very apropos your question:rolleyes:

:lol:

singlesix

10-06-2006, 07:36 PM

Somehow this is all I could think of after reading this thread. Oh well.

http://www.automotiveaddicts.com/forums/images/smilies/careometer.gif

myspace

10-18-2006, 11:18 PM

Update from Brian
http://www.briansprediction.com/warnings069.htm

UPDATE 10.18.2006:

I do not think that that M*** Mc***** had anything to due with the disappearance of Tara and I think that his true intentions are just. I have had dozens of hate filled email's regarding this man, and I do not feel that they are justified, and are not helping this case at all. I will no longer be posting such emails on my site.

Military Affiliation:

If it's true, and M*** is not a Marine, or never has been, I do not agree with his use of the Marine Logo, if he's not actually served on active duty...it does seem to be a little misleading and a discredit to those who have actually served and risked their lives for this country.

I do think M*** honestly wants to find Tara, and at the end of the day, this is all that matters.

I also agree with Mr. Mc***** that his chosen religion has nothing to due with the case, and it doesn't. We should respect everyone's choices, and never disrespect what they believe in, and for this, I apologize Mark for any reader comments posted on this site referring to your chosen faith, I should have never posted them.

I also request that everyone stop this negative campaign against him, and get to what's really important, finding out what happened to Tara.

And to the family of Tara...

I hope she is found soon, and you can being closure to this. I will try my best to locate her, and will be going to where I think she is. I also highly suggest that you remove the reward offer, or have it given to a charity that helps locate missing persons. You have thousands of people that really want her to be found, most never even knew her, but they still care...please listen to them.

Brian

IrwinIndian

10-18-2006, 11:22 PM

Don't forget the $899.00 fee to view Tara's RV now... it's turned to GOLD for Brian!!!

(gibberish)

Originally posted by myspace
Update from Brian
http://www.briansprediction.com/warnings069.htm

UPDATE 10.18.2006:

I do not think that that M*** Mc***** had anything to due with the disappearance of Tara and I think that his true intentions are just. I have had dozens of hate filled email's regarding this man, and I do not feel that they are justified, and are not helping this case at all. I will no longer be posting such emails on my site.

Military Affiliation:

If it's true, and M*** is not a Marine, or never has been, I do not agree with his use of the Marine Logo, if he's not actually served on active duty...it does seem to be a little misleading and a discredit to those who have actually served and risked their lives for this country.

I do think M*** honestly wants to find Tara, and at the end of the day, this is all that matters.

I also agree with Mr. Mc***** that his chosen religion has nothing to due with the case, and it doesn't. We should respect everyone's choices, and never disrespect what they believe in, and for this, I apologize Mark for any reader comments posted on this site referring to your chosen faith, I should have never posted them.

I also request that everyone stop this negative campaign against him, and get to what's really important, finding out what happened to Tara.

And to the family of Tara...

I hope she is found soon, and you can being closure to this. I will try my best to locate her, and will be going to where I think she is. I also highly suggest that you remove the reward offer, or have it given to a charity that helps locate missing persons. You have thousands of people that really want her to be found, most never even knew her, but they still care...please listen to them.

Brian

Its just me

10-18-2006, 11:26 PM

Originally posted by myspace
Update from Brian
http://www.briansprediction.com/warnings069.htm

UPDATE 10.18.2006:

I do not think that that M*** Mc***** had anything to due with the disappearance of Tara and I think that his true intentions are just. I have had dozens of hate filled email's regarding this man, and I do not feel that they are justified, and are not helping this case at all. I will no longer be posting such emails on my site.

Military Affiliation:

If it's true, and M*** is not a Marine, or never has been, I do not agree with his use of the Marine Logo, if he's not actually served on active duty...it does seem to be a little misleading and a discredit to those who have actually served and risked their lives for this country.

I do think M*** honestly wants to find Tara, and at the end of the day, this is all that matters.

I also agree with Mr. Mc***** that his chosen religion has nothing to due with the case, and it doesn't. We should respect everyone's choices, and never disrespect what they believe in, and for this, I apologize Mark for any reader comments posted on this site referring to your chosen faith, I should have never posted them.

I also request that everyone stop this negative campaign against him, and get to what's really important, finding out what happened to Tara.

And to the family of Tara...

I hope she is found soon, and you can being closure to this. I will try my best to locate her, and will be going to where I think she is. I also highly suggest that you remove the reward offer, or have it given to a charity that helps locate missing persons. You have thousands of people that really want her to be found, most never even knew her, but they still care...please listen to them.

Brian

Hope Brian finds Tara: Actually studied his first RV's several days but this 360 degree turn around on MM makes me wonder how stable Brian really is. Now I wonder what tomorrow will hold. Glad I havent paid money to to get my reading. MHOO

odette

10-18-2006, 11:29 PM

Originally posted by IrwinIndian
Don't forget the $899.00 fee to view Tara's RV now... it's turned to GOLD for Brian!!!

(gibberish)

Wow !!, $899.00 .... Sounds to me like a very lucrative business to be in.

Its just me

10-18-2006, 11:56 PM

Originally posted by odette

Wow !!, $899.00 .... Sounds to me like a very lucrative business to be in.

Ole Brian got the pot cooking on High Heat. Turned off the gas, did a 360 degree spin and want $899.00 to turn the gas back on.

Yea.... this is more than Gibberish.

The R

10-19-2006, 06:44 AM

Originally posted by Its just me

Ole Brian got the pot cooking on High Heat. Turned off the gas, did a 360 degree spin and want $899.00 to turn the gas back on.

Yea.... this is more than Gibberish.

Checked his site again this am and he's now posting an update (10-19-06) that says to expect a break in the case soon?

R

IrwinIndian

10-19-2006, 07:35 AM

Maybe Brian is benhill29?

I think Brian has done a good job of taking us all on a ride to nowhere this week. Why? That's the million dollar question, as usual.

For $899, I want more than a break. I want a weekend getaway and a foot rub.

Originally posted by The R

Checked his site again this am and he's now posting an update (10-19-06) that says to expect a break in the case soon?

R

HonestInjun

10-19-2006, 11:38 AM

Have I done any good in the world today?
Have I helped anyone in need?
Have I cheered up the sad and made someone feel glad?
If not, I have failed indeed.

Has anyone's burden been lighter today because I was willing to share?
Have the sick and the weary been helped on their way?
When they needed my help was I there?

There are chances for work all around just now,
Opportunities right in our way.
Do not let them pass by, saying, "Sometime I'll try,"
But go and do something today.

'Tis noble of man to work and to give;
Love's labor has merit alone.
Only he who does something helps others to live.
To God each good work will be known.

Then wake up and do something more.
Doing good is a pleasure,
A joy beyond measure,
A blessing of duty and love.