The Life and Times of John Karr

[TobyTiger]

California Deputies Reportedly Come for Karr & Leave Him Here (http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/local/article/0,1299,DRMN_15_4986369,00.html)

Almost two weeks since his ordered extradition to California on child pornography charges, John Mark Karr still sits in the Boulder County Jail despite a report that deputies from California were in Boulder to collect him last Thursday.

The deadline for his return to Sonoma County is 5:00pm Wednesday (Sept. 13).

A report published in The Press Democrat of Santa Rosa on Saturday said two Sonoma County sheriff's deputies traveled to Boulder on Thursday to pick up Karr - but left without him.

Sonoma County Sheriff Bill Cogbill, in the article, alluded to some "huge dynamics going on that could change the whole course of this," but declined to be more specific...
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[magpie1]

The deadline for extradition from Boulder, Co. to Sonoma, CA is 5:00pm on Sept. 13th. That's tomorrow! So, I would expect some sort of announcement within the next 24 hours.

That article strongly suggests that John Karr may be under investigation by another jurisdiction, otherwise there would be no reason to keep him in Boulder. The charges in another jurisdiction may be more serious than the charges in Sonoma County, and that might determine who gets him.

Just speculation here.......John Karr left Alabama in 2000/2001 to move to Sonoma County, CA. allegedly because of his interest in the Polly Klass case. I wonder if there was another, more compelling, reason for leaving Alabama? Perhaps there's an unsolved molestation case in Alabama and with Karr's picture on television 24/7 for almost two weeks, the victim recognized him?

[bullmoose]

To magpie: It does seem sort of odd that Karr is still sitting in Boulder; there is probably a very good reason, but other than his backtracks being carefully scrutinized, I can't see why. Hopefully it will become more clear tomorrow. bulmoose

[MyrDawn]

Originally posted by bullmoose
To magpie: It does seem sort of odd that Karr is still sitting in Boulder; there is probably a very good reason, but other than his backtracks being carefully scrutinized, I can't see why. Hopefully it will become more clear tomorrow. bulmoose

I know if they just let him walk tomorrow, I'm gonna be one mad puppy! Let's hope there's SOMETHING in the works, and we'll find out soon!

[trt]

Originally posted by MyrDawn


I know if they just let him walk tomorrow, I'm gonna be one mad puppy! Let's hope there's SOMETHING in the works, and we'll find out soon!

Yeah, I think we all will be horrified if he's allowed to walk the streets. Murderer or not, he has had some pedophilic(is that a word? LOL) misgivings, so he should be locked up. Big WHAT IF here, but what if they are working on some more with the JBR case with him and are stalling to see if it pans out before they extradite him? I'm not sold on him being involved at all, but it is very strange that they are still holding him in boulder and not extraditing him.

[harz]

Originally posted by MyrDawn


I know if they just let him walk tomorrow, I'm gonna be one mad puppy! Let's hope there's SOMETHING in the works, and we'll find out soon!

lol, if he gets to be free, he probably will come and join our discussion on this forum due to his obsessions. It would be interesting what Karr has to say here.

[MyrDawn]

Originally posted by harz


lol, if he gets to be free, he probably will come and join our discussion on this forum due to his obsessions. It would be interesting what Karr has to say here.

That is one scary thought! :eek:

[TobyTiger]

John Mark Karr leaves Boulder (http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/local/article/0,1299,DRMN_15_4987308,00.html)

Boulder County Sheriff's Division Chief Larry Hank said at 3:10pm today that Karr was no longer at the jail, where he had been held without bail since being brought to Colorado Aug. 24. Hank refused to disclose any other details, other than to say that Karr was in the custody of Sonoma County sheriff's deputies.

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[paperbackreader]

Personally, I'm rather hoping CA will bill CO for reimbursement of costs, since we didn't really want him back from Thailand. :D

[TobyTiger]

Originally posted by paperbackreader
Personally, I'm rather hoping CA will bill CO for reimbursement of costs, since we didn't really want him back from Thailand. :D
You've got a point there! Pursing fugitives wanted for misdemeanor charges isn't the highest priority in this state...
:beer:

[magpie1]

I wonder if we're ever going to find out what the problem was last Thursday, when Sonoma County sheriffs deputies went to Colorado to bring Karr back to CA, and came back empty handed????

I wonder too about Sheriff Bill Cogbill's remarks about "the dynamics of this case changing daily."

[TobyTiger]

Originally posted by victims feel
Jane VM on NG said he is going to CA for serious charges, that lead me to believe some were added to find out that she is calling 5 misdemeanors the serious charges:rolleyes:
Think about it...if charges were added, and Jane knew about them, I'm sure she'd be reporting what they are. After all it is Nancy's show and we all know Nancy's opinion of JMK!
:D

[TobyTiger]

Originally posted by magpie1
I wonder if we're ever going to find out what the problem was last Thursday, when Sonoma County sheriffs deputies went to Colorado to bring Karr back to CA, and came back empty handed????

I wonder too about Sheriff Bill Cogbill's remarks about "the dynamics of this case changing daily."
We'll probably have to wait for his court appearance for the answers. I doubt any new charges were added since his attorney wants a "speedy trial".

[TobyTiger]

Originally posted by victims feel
Well, you know I really like Jane....but those comments made the other day by LE about some changes has me worried...

I also thought I missed the news update on more charges:o

shame on me YOU BUSTED ME TOBY LOL
No shame!! But I know how Nancy would delight in being able to report on JMK so she's probably upset that he was transferred on a day she isn't hosting her show!

Don't you know she'd want to be informed on what he was wearing and what he ate on the flight to California?

:biggrin:

[girlinterrupted]

The AP just reported that Karr arrived in CA and was swiftly taken away in a car with tinted windows.

[Lynn Gweeny]

Originally posted by girlinterrupted
The AP just reported that Karr arrived in CA and was swiftly taken away in a car with tinted windows.

John Mark Karr Arrives In Oakland (http://www.nbc11.com/news/9833833/detail.html)

[LadyFisher]

Originally posted by vaughancauthen
I fit the profile of John Karr, so I have an intimate understanding of where he is coming from. Until last year I filed no tax returns for 26 years, being barely and reluctantly supported by my father. Last year I filed a tax return for $7000. I can't get a decent job because all of my ideas are different. I see everything differently, and I can't pull off the dumb act. I never last in jobs. Finally I quit trying, though I had a job last year, which I got fired from after 10 months and now I’m helping my girlfriend deliver newspapers, which is officially her job. She’s got two jobs.

I am a lot like John Karr. I don't pay child support and the reason is because I am so pathetic when it comes to employment. It’s not my fault. I just see things differently. Unfortunately, I am usually right and the whole world is wrong. I can't dress like John Karr, and I can't travel the world like John Karr. I can't even get good food, so I know he has some invisible means of support that is usually impossible for a man like him to arrange: a major consideration when deciding whether or not he should be brought to trial for what he said was a terrorist act.

We didn't believe him, because that idea is so preposterous, but where does the money come from?

He traveled, dressed well, and he had cosmetic surgery. That raises many questions but the surgery was not for a sex change operation. The doctor said he was not a good candidate for that, since he never wore women’s clothes or acted the part of a woman. He is just a pristine, you can say prissy man. The hair he had removed was high on his cheek above his beard. He still has his beard. All of that is normal for him, though it does not indicate he wanted a sex change operation.

The answer to the whole thing hit me between the eyes when I saw Polly Klaas’ father on TV. I had already decided John Karr had taken part in a kidnapping. The normal response from Mark Klaas would have been sympathy. He would have said, “I hope for the sake of John Ramsey they have found the man who did it.”

Instead, Mark Klaas said with extreme prejudice: “This can’t be the man who did it.”

What? How did he know?

Then I thought about who might have organized a group to kidnap another beautiful girl in order to make parents wary of turning their children into attractive sex objects.

From a Polly Klaas website: “By putting herself in mortal danger to protect her family and friends, Polly has become my greatest teacher," said her father, Marc Klaas. Marc Klaas immediately dove into a campaign to put children higher on the national priority list. With no prior media, political or public speaking experience, he immediately became savvy in affecting proactive legislation, and sought to advocate children's issues and speak out on crime prevention.

Within a year the KlaasKids Foundation was formed.”

Mark Klaas found out he was a natural organizer of movements. He could influence how everyone thought, and he had the original “beautiful girl with the warm brown eyes" who was murdered because she became appealing to a pedophile.

Mark Klaas had the means and the motive and he gave an irrational answer on TV when John Karr was being carried back to America, an answer that became the mantra of everyone, public and press. It sounded good, but the answer made no sense.

And John Ramsey said that nothing about this crime makes any sense.

Why would Polly Klaas’ father say: This is definitely not the guy who did it! Mark Klaas had no inside information when he made that statement and John Karr seemed like as good a candidate as any. So why deny him a trail and put JK’s life in danger?

I think when there is a trial, we will learn Mark Klaas organized this stunt, intended to call attention to the plight of pretty young girls who are put out in the public eye. It was a stunt that made no sense at all. I'm sorry...but this is just so bizarre...you're imagination is alive and well....but I just can't agree with this....Mark Klaas had absolutely nothing to do with this murder! Maybe Karr and someone else.....but you shouldn't even suggest something like that about Klaas jokingly, much less seriously! :confused:

[barskin&co.]

Originally posted by LadyFisher
I'm sorry...but this is just so bizarre...you're imagination is alive and well....but I just can't agree with this....Mark Klaas had absolutely nothing to do with this murder! Maybe Karr and someone else.....but you shouldn't even suggest something like that about Klaas jokingly, much less seriously! :confused:

Please, LadyF, do not give credence to word one from this poster. The insanity goes way beyond the slandering of Mark Klaas.

[LadyFisher]

Originally posted by barskin&co.


Please, LadyF, do not give credence to word one from this poster. The insanity goes way beyond the slandering of Mark Klaas. Okie Dokie, Barskin....thank you for the warning! :)

[TobyTiger]

John Mark Karr Faces Porn Charges (http://abcnews.go.com/US/LegalCenter/wireStory?id=2429381&CMP=OTC-RSSFeeds0312)

John Mark Karr returned to California with considerably less attention than when he last arrived in the state as a one-time suspect in the JonBenet Ramsey slaying.

Karr, 41, who faces child pornography charges here, is being held without bail at a jail in Santa Rosa after landing at Oakland International Airport late Tuesday. He is scheduled for arraignment on Thursday...
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[day2day]

Originally posted by TobyTiger
John Mark Karr Faces Porn Charges (http://abcnews.go.com/US/LegalCenter/wireStory?id=2429381&CMP=OTC-RSSFeeds0312)

John Mark Karr returned to California with considerably less attention than when he last arrived in the state as a one-time suspect in the JonBenet Ramsey slaying.

Karr, 41, who faces child pornography charges here, is being held without bail at a jail in Santa Rosa after landing at Oakland International Airport late Tuesday. He is scheduled for arraignment on Thursday...
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Hiya TT

Looks like you have yourself a new "neighbor"...Hope you get to keep him for a very long time! (but I really doubt you will )..:seeya:

[angelskye]

Well now, isn't it cozy that the fruitbat is going to plead not guilty? :rolleyes:

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/14841445/?GT1=8506

[paperbackreader]

This guy is all about fame. If it's the reward for confessing.....he will do it. If it's the reward for claiming innocence.....he'll do it.

He never realized the dream of seeing his book published, but he's found an alternate route to his 5 min. of glory.

[LisaM22]

betting he takes the stand, this guy loves to talk it seems about things he has done - jmho

[paperbackreader]

yup, Lisa.....that's his gig.

[ohtootie]

In order to get a trial he has to plead not guilty...correct? It seems to me that he loves to talk (as other posters said) and wants the limelight. That creature is fascinated with JBR and insinuated himself into that world (case) long before he was arrested...now that's done as far as he is concerned, and he doesn't want it to be done...so he'll get his trial, and I wonder just how much JBR's name will be mentioned. He'll be in the spotlight for a while and then fade away....The thing that really scares me is where will he go after serving his time, assuming he does serve time. I sure don't want him in my neighborhood.

All this was My Opinion.

[ducks]

Too bad there's not an Ignore button in real life. Karr would be on it so fast! :mad:

[La_Cavalière]

Karr is offered freedom as part of plea deal

SANTA ROSA, California (AP) -- One-time JonBenet Ramsey murder suspect John Mark Karr was offered a plea deal Tuesday on child pornography charges that would free him on probation.

http://edition.cnn.com/2006/LAW/09/19/karr.child.porn.ap/

[barskin&co.]

Originally posted by vaughancauthen
. Now, he can't get a job in this solar system. Who would have thought he couldn’t even get arrested in Boulder?

vaughan, you're a comedian!! Who knew? By the way, the Twighlight Zone called. They want you back.

http://members.cox.net/kaiotea/audio.htm

[Mrs. Y]

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/09/21/national/main2028303.shtml

[diplomat]

Originally posted by Mrs. Y
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/09/21/national/main2028303.shtml

LOL, that John Mark Karr is one lucky guy.

[DanPride]

Now they have lost the Computer that Karr used to further his sick Game. They apparently lost the video surveillance from the bus station as well. Now we will never know who it was in the Bus station, and Karr will walk free. Perverts R us wins again ! Loosing a computer and admitting it is one thing. Loosing the surveillance tape then issuing a GAG ORDER to cover up the incompetence is even worse.
Dan Pride
About the Bus Station Incident (http://www.kingsolomonsgate.com/Christmas96.htm)

[argus1000]

Originally posted by diplomat


LOL, that John Mark Karr is one lucky guy.

Police say it doesn't matter, because the drive has been copied, and the pictures have been printed.

George

[diplomat]

Originally posted by argus1000


Police say it doesn't matter, because the drive has been copied, and the pictures have been printed.

George

Wouldn't they have a heyday with a copy when the original is missing? Would the copy actually be admissable as evidence?

[Mrs. Y]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060926/ap_on_re_us/karr_child_porn

[Shannendfan]

I wonder if we'll ever find out who killed the little girl. I'm banking on the mother....The hand writer expert DID confirm that it was Patsy that wrote that random letter, right?

This whole thing is so sad

-Kristin

[breezy1234]

Originally posted by Shannendfan
I wonder if we'll ever find out who killed the little girl. I'm banking on the mother....The hand writer expert DID confirm that it was Patsy that wrote that random letter, right?

This whole thing is so sad

-Kristin

No one "confirmed" Patsy was the writter of the note.

"The experts described the chance of Mrs. Ramsey being the author of the Ransom Note as "very low." (SMF . 204; PSMF 1 204.) The two experts hired by defendants both assert that this evidence strongly suggests that Mrs. Ramsey did not write the Note. (SMF 254.) "

http://www.acandyrose.com/03312003carnes21-30.htm

[Nuttinelse]

On Fox News Live that a CA. judge has ruled that the John Karr porn charges can go forward.
Sorry, no link, just heard it Live.
IMO

PS, Seems the copies of the child porn
will be used.

[sevans]

http://www.news10.net/storyfull2.aspx?storyid=20360

If I were a defense lawyer, I might have a little problem with a mirror image of anything the DA's investigators turned up.

I sure hope they can come up with something better than that.:(

[Nuttinelse]

Originally posted by sevans
http://www.news10.net/storyfull2.aspx?storyid=20360

If I were a defense lawyer, I might have a little problem with a mirror image of anything the DA's investigators turned up.

I sure hope they can come up with something better than that.:(

Not to get off topic, but was not the BTK
serial killer nabbed by using a disk that contained data that linked him to his church?

Why the judge ruled that the charges can go forward, I will continue to seek a link.
IMO

[HansieDZ]

Too bad-he's a pervert and needs to be locked away for society's sake. Oh... jmo.

[socaldiva]

Originally posted by HansieDZ
Too bad-he's a pervert and needs to be locked away for society's sake. Oh... jmo.

:confused: If I read the original post correctly, it means that they are going to charge him :shrug:

[HansieDZ]

Originally posted by socaldiva


:confused: If I read the original post correctly, it means that they are going to charge him :shrug:

Well good- last I saw,they were letting him off :shrug:
Golly,there's been so much in the news, I can hardly keep up.

[Nuttinelse]

Here is a link
http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2006/09/29/BAGG5LFO106.DTL

[vaughancauthen]

Santa Rosa law enforcement has become as bungling and indecisive as Boulder law enforcement has been.

Why is that? I think there are two forces controlling all the decisions in this case. One force is simple truth. The other force, which was at work in Boulder making them seem bungling and indecisive, and is now now at work in Santa Rosa, making Santa Rosa seem bungling and indecisive could be a powerful group who don't want the truth to come out.

It was suggested that when John Karr gets free, he could discuss this crime with me on this board. I am sympathetic to what he says, so he would discuss it with me and maybe the truth could come out. But suddenly he is not going to be free.

[breezy1234]

In addition, WMR has learned of possible connections between GOP lawmakers and former school teacher John Mark Karr, who was arrested in Thailand and deported to the United States after he claimed, falsely, that he killed six-year old Jon Benet Ramsey at her Boulder, Colorado home in 1996. After Boulder prosecutors declined to prosecute Karr for JonBenet's death, he was transferred to Sonoma County, California to face misdemeanor child pornography charges. However, U.S. intelligence source report to WMR that the high degree of interest shown by U.S. Department of Homeland Security (DHS) and U.S. intelligence officials in Karr -- including having one CIA officer in Bangkok intercede, along with DHS Bangkok attache Ann Hurst, with Thai law enforcement authorities after Karr's arrest -- was due to Karr's knowledge of the involvement of top U.S. government officials in a major pedophilia ring.



http://waynemadsenreport.com/

[rosebud]

Originally posted by breezy1234
In addition, WMR has learned of possible connections between GOP lawmakers and former school teacher John Mark Karr, who was arrested in Thailand and deported to the United States after he claimed, falsely, that he killed six-year old Jon Benet Ramsey at her Boulder, Colorado home in 1996. After Boulder prosecutors declined to prosecute Karr for JonBenet's death, he was transferred to Sonoma County, California to face misdemeanor child pornography charges. However, U.S. intelligence source report to WMR that the high degree of interest shown by U.S. Department of Homeland Security (DHS) and U.S. intelligence officials in Karr -- including having one CIA officer in Bangkok intercede, along with DHS Bangkok attache Ann Hurst, with Thai law enforcement authorities after Karr's arrest -- was due to Karr's knowledge of the involvement of top U.S. government officials in a major pedophilia ring.



http://waynemadsenreport.com/


{Insert music from Monty Python here}

[vaughancauthen]

This is what they are afraid will be revealed, if they catch the intruder in the JonBenet murder.

I only sensed it was this kind of story from observing events. I didn’t know other people had written books and articles about it.

We need to make sure John Karr doesn’t get murdered in jail, so he can tell his story. Right now, the direction looks like he will be murdered in prison, for five misdemeanor images. Fox news even did a story tonight that said there is nothing prisons can do if pedophiles are murdered while inside. The Fox conclusion was: “Oh well, pedophiles who are murdered in prison shouldn’t have messed with little children.” Like it's okay to murder pedophiles in prison...

They are preparing us for John Karr being murdered. But why could Fox News explain in advance the murder of John Mark Karr?

Someone in very high places is covering up a much bigger story.

Now, there are the Foley revelations. This whole story needs to be brought into the light. I think John Karr knows a lot, and we truly are seeing only the tip of the iceberg, like the article states.

[vaughancauthen]

…sources on the Hill report that the GOP leadership knew of Foley's improper communications with pages "for years"…

The consensus of Washington insiders is that the Foley scandal is merely the "tip of the iceberg" and when all the facts become known there will be a political tsunami that could wash away as many as 60 to 70 incumbent Republicans...

Major cover-up suspected in GOP's "Pagegate" now rocking Capitol Hill.

Jeffrey Ray Nielsen, a Christian fundamentalist activist lawyer who was a legislative aide for California Republican Rep. Dana Rohrabacher and a close associate of Orange County GOP chairman Scott Baugh, has been charged by Orange County, California police with repeatedly engaging in sex with a 14-year old Westminster, California high school freshman male in 2003 and amassing a large amount of child pornography in his Ladera Ranch condo. Prosecutors in Orange County have been accused of dragging their feet on the Nielsen case -- charges that involve political pressure from the GOP.

…possible connections between GOP lawmakers and former school teacher John Mark Karr, who was arrested in Thailand and deported to the United States… Boulder prosecutors declined to prosecute Karr… However, U.S. intelligence source report that the high degree of interest shown by U.S. Department of Homeland Security (DHS) and U.S. intelligence officials in Karr was due to Karr's knowledge of the involvement of top U.S. government officials in a major pedophilia ring.

Law enforcement and intelligence officials point out that if there are no arrests in Washington stemming from "Pagegate," it can be assumed that this second major eruption of scandal involving top Republicans and pedophilia has been swept under the carpet once again.


Click here, and scroll down for the entire article. (http://waynemadsenreport.com/)

[awareness]

so is he going to go free at this point? does anyone know?

:cuss: :flamemad: i can't beleive this guy got a free ticket back to the US.

[sweetcharlotte]

http://www.charter.net/news/read.php?id=13144659&ps=1011&cat=&cps=&lang=en

[Nuttinelse]

Originally posted by sweetcharlotte
http://www.charter.net/news/read.php?id=13144659&ps=1011&cat=&cps=&lang=en

Just heard too on Headline News channel.
I give up, why would he flee if he had nothing to hide?
Oh well, seems this case is over.
IMO

[Athena]

Honestly I wasn't expecting else other than him being registered as a sex offender but unfortunately even that ain't gonna happen as a result of them losing his laptop. A copy of a hard drive can be tampered with so technically there was NO evidence. Just really blows my mind especially after those sexually explicit tapes that were made public and the graphic language he used. Another law enforcement bungle:

Prosecutors acknowledged that if Karr were convicted he would not have served any additional time in jail because he spent several months behind bars awaiting trial in 2001. They said they were seeking to have him register as a sex offender

http://cbs5.com/topstories/local_story_278164805.html

In new motions, the defense asks that the current case be dismissed based on the loss of Karr's computer. Prosecutors have a copy of its hard drive, but no records show when that was made or who's used it.

http://www.wistv.com/Global/story.asp?S=5488177

[bookratt]

He's going to go free, apparently:

http://www.cnn.com/2006/LAW/10/05/karr.porn.ap/index.html

The computer had not been accessed or used since 1998, but the family moved to CA in 2000 and the charges were brought against him in 2001.

The article says the period in which the charges could be brought have expired, the hard drive copy alone cannot be used as evidence and there is some question as to the validity of the charges to begin with, as the person making the accusations, according to the writer of the article, was judged to be mentally ill.

Does anyone know who originally brought the charges against him/made the accusation that what was on the computer was child porn?

His then wife, now ex-wife? Perfect timing if they were separating at that point. Or was it someone else? If so, who and why?

And, if the computer was in storage and the images hadn't been viewed since 1998, almost 3 years before the charges were brought, why the delay? If someone was so sure it was child porn and they thought it was worng, why wait 3 years to make the charge?

I am confused, yet again, when it comes to anything to do with this case.

[diplomat]

Can you believe the luck of John Mark Karr? Unbelievable. I wonder where he will go now, surely he won't stay in the US.

[Athena]

Originally posted by bookratt
He's going to go free, apparently:

http://www.cnn.com/2006/LAW/10/05/karr.porn.ap/index.html

The computer had not been accessed or used since 1998, but the family moved to CA in 2000 and the charges were brought against him in 2001.

The article says the period in which the charges could be brought have expired, the hard drive copy alone cannot be used as evidence and there is some question as to the validity of the charges to begin with, as the person making the accusations, according to the writer of the article, was judged to be mentally ill.

Does anyone know who originally brought the charges against him/made the accusation that what was on the computer was child porn?

His then wife, now ex-wife? Perfect timing if they were separating at that point. Or was it someone else? If so, who and why?

And, if the computer was in storage and the images hadn't been viewed since 1998, almost 3 years before the charges were brought, why the delay? If someone was so sure it was child porn and they thought it was worng, why wait 3 years to make the charge?

I am confused, yet again, when it comes to anything to do with this case.

I'm confused too. I'm not sure where that 1998 date is coming from? This is from an older article when the story first broke.

In April of 2001, Karr was arrested at a school in Napa on five counts of possessing child pornography. He did serve some time in jail, but was released on his own recognizance in October and later failed to show up in court. He is wanted in Sonoma County and a warrant is still out for his arrest for failure to appear on those charges.

His teaching credential in Petaluma was suspended, then revoked for violating the education code.

Lara Karr filed for divorce after her husband was charged in 2001. When he was allowed out of jail, it was with a lot of limitations and restrictions, including supervised visits with his own children and he was not allowed to be around other children. He was ordered to stay off the computer. Investigators say he was using the computer for child pornography.

http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/story?section=local&id=4468925

[harz]

Originally posted by diplomat
Can you believe the luck of John Mark Karr? Unbelievable. I wonder where he will go now, surely he won't stay in the US.

He probably would stay enjoying the spotlight while it last. JMO

[diplomat]

Originally posted by harz


He probably would stay enjoying the spotlight while it last. JMO

He looked as if he might burst into tears as he was leaving the courthouse. Probably sorry he was not going to get some more free room and board. No telling what was stored on the hard drive of that computer of his that was lost.

[MyrDawn]

It was awful, watching him walking out a free man yesterday, knowing how twisted and perverted his mind is.

I doubt he'll have to worry about free room and board. I'd imagine he'll get plenty of $ offers for his story, and may well end up a very rich man. What a travesty!

I wonder if Karr will be at the press conference his attorneys are planning on holding this morning.

MOO

[awareness]

I can't believe this guy is getting off several times!

First he bails out in California and flees overseas. Eventually picked up in Thailand, was alleged to be charged as a "public nusiance" or something like that but managed to escape to the US - on taxpayer dollars - to face his charges of being JBR's killer. Then he's let off on those charges - goes back to california only to have the original charges dismissed.

the guy needs to play the lottery. :rolleyes:

[diplomat]

Originally posted by awareness

the guy needs to play the lottery. :rolleyes:

LOL, wouldn't that just be his luck to win about $200 million.

[SteelerFan]

Originally posted by awareness
I can't believe this guy is getting off several times!

First he bails out in California and flees overseas. Eventually picked up in Thailand, was alleged to be charged as a "public nusiance" or something like that but managed to escape to the US - on taxpayer dollars - to face his charges of being JBR's killer. Then he's let off on those charges - goes back to california only to have the original charges dismissed.

the guy needs to play the lottery. :rolleyes:

Between California and Boulder, CO, many of those involved apparently went to the Barney Fife school of law enforcement. I just wonder how long he'll last out on the streets, and how long before he disappears and ends up in Thailand again.

[DanPride]

I am the individual in the Bus station who ran into someone whom I believe was Karr but can not swear to it. The video tape in the station was sealed with a Gag order early on, no public discussion allowed. This information is from Larry Kings Staff and CNN's Candiotti. I refer you to two sites which may come into play here. I am the author of both, and that may contribute to the problem.
www.KingSolomonsGate.com (http://www.KingSolomonsGate.com) (Karr Story)
and
www.Unabombers.com (http://www.Unabombers.com)

Perhaps an independent Lab might want to retest Karrs DNA? or Perhaps a better explanation is needed for why it was six years in showing up?

[girlinterrupted]

OMG!!! I am so mad. I cannot believe that ABC producers drove him to a school. In a limo, no less.

http://www.nypost.com/seven/10082006/news/nationalnews/tv_crew_in_creepy_karr_ride_nationalnews_.htm

I have sent GMA an email telling them how disgusting this ratings stunt is. I encourage everyone to please do the same, and pass this on to friends and family. They need to know that people will not watch their show until they apologize for their irresponsible actions. :no:

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=158076

[harz]

Originally posted by girlinterrupted
OMG!!! I am so mad. I cannot believe that ABC producers drove him to a school. In a limo, no less.

http://www.nypost.com/seven/10082006/news/nationalnews/tv_crew_in_creepy_karr_ride_nationalnews_.htm

I have sent GMA an email telling them how disgusting this ratings stunt is. I encourage everyone to please do the same, and pass this on to friends and family. They need to know that people will not watch their show until they apologize for their irresponsible actions. :no:

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=158076


Well it was a school where Karr used to teach. And there were 2 ABC producers, camera man, and limo driver with him, it not like he was stalking or attempting to kidnap some students. Maybe if you watch ABCnews to understand what his story is about. At least Karr and ABCnews was being honest that they visit that school for Karr's story, instead of a pedophile in sheep clothing sneaking into school and you wont know it. IMO

[girlinterrupted]

Originally posted by harz


Well it was a school where Karr used to teach. And there were 2 ABC producers, camera man, and limo driver with him, it not like he was stalking or attempting to kidnap some students. Maybe if you watch ABCnews to understand what his story is about. At least Karr and ABCnews was being honest that they visit that school for Karr's story, instead of a pedophile in sheep clothing sneaking into school and you wont know it. IMO

And this makes it any better?

[harz]

Originally posted by girlinterrupted


And this makes it any better?

At least ABC decided not to continue the interview, so you can’t blame ABC. Karr is legally to walk by any schools; he didn’t go inside the building as most of schools have security to prevent anyone entering or students leaving. If you read that article again, ABC decided not to process the interview after Karr got out and walked toward school building looking through the window. ABC just wants a story, but they decided having enough from being freak out about Karr’s behavior. Your point would be made if ABC still process Karr’s story after visiting old school stunt. Many media would process Karr’s interview, but ABC proved they refused to tolerate Karr’s stunt. I don’t think there need to blame on ABC, but to blame Karr & America government for not placing Karr into mental institution. IMO

[sweetcharlotte]

Just heard that John Mark Karr will be on LKL Monday night.
Per this link you can e-mail him your questions.

http://www.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/larry.king.live/

[harz]

Originally posted by sweetcharlotte
Just heard that John Mark Karr will be on LKL Monday night.
Per this link you can e-mail him your questions.

http://www.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/larry.king.live/

Whoa, I bet that's a good news for Vaughn. I can't think of any questions I want to ask right now, but I will definitely be watching this show. Hope he doesn't come up with some stunts that would embarrass Larry. IMO

[harz]

Vaughn, Check this out;
http://www.forumsforjustice.org/forums/showthread.php?t=7858
I am interesting in your conspiracy theories about John Walsh to this case since he believe IDI and how would he know that or what his reasons behind it. :D IMO

[Eagle1]

Originally posted by harz
Vaughn, Check this out;
http://www.forumsforjustice.org/forums/showthread.php?t=7858
I am interesting in your conspiracy theories about John Walsh to this case since he believe IDI and how would he know that or what his reasons behind it. :D IMO

Both sides claim to know.

Why shouldn't John Walsh, just like everybody else?

BTW, I didn't notice anyone using the C word which seems to have been outlawed by the propaganda of those who must use C's. Who else would care so much about one perfectly legit word than those who must have some kind of guilt about it? There's laws about conspiracy, both civil and criminal. So it's reality.

Mind you, I didn't say it's reality in any particular case. Just that it's a legit word you can't use for intimidation.

[harz]

Originally posted by Eagle1


Both sides claim to know.

Why shouldn't John Walsh, just like everybody else?

BTW, I didn't notice anyone using the C word which seems to have been outlawed by the propaganda of those who must use C's. Who else would care so much about one perfectly legit word than those who must have some kind of guilt about it? There's laws about conspiracy, both civil and criminal. So it's reality.

Mind you, I didn't say it's reality in any particular case. Just that it's a legit word you can't use for intimidation.

Everyone else? No, Vaughn had a long interesting theory about Mark Klaas's connection to this case right here on this forum. If you haven't read it yet, I will try find it for you. I just enjoy reading his theories, it not about that I believe or disbelieve them, it just about enterainment for me at least. Since John Walsh went hothead on all other cases busting criminals, but he looked into this case probably only for short time, then step back saying it was an intruder, but I dont see him doing anything about it at least. JMO

[FurthurBB]

Originally posted by harz
Vaughn, Check this out;
http://www.forumsforjustice.org/forums/showthread.php?t=7858
I am interesting in your conspiracy theories about John Walsh to this case since he believe IDI and how would he know that or what his reasons behind it. :D IMO

Oh yeah, since someone does not agree with you they must be stupid. This is really childish since none of us really know anything at all. MOO

[harz]

Originally posted by FurthurBB


Oh yeah, since someone does not agree with you they must be stupid. This is really childish since none of us really know anything at all. MOO

Interesting, when you said “us”, do you mean everything revolves around you? You must be special. Do you have any idea what Vaughancauthen tend to contribute here? His or her conspiracy theories are intriguing for reading, even to both RDI and IDI. Not because these theories are found truth, it just an entertainment reading. As for John Walsh, he never had dispute with me about this case; I doubt he knows more about this case than you or anyone on this forum. As creating conspiracy theories against him by posters here are really trivial compare to what he should deserves for not being through investigating into this case. My requests to Vaughan have nothing to do at relating with anyone’s beliefs here, even you. IMO

[Eagle1]

Originally posted by harz


Everyone else? No, Vaughn had a long interesting theory about Mark Klaas's connection to this case right here on this forum. If you haven't read it yet, I will try find it for you. I just enjoy reading his theories, it not about that I believe or disbelieve them, it just about enterainment for me at least. Since John Walsh went hothead on all other cases busting criminals, but he looked into this case probably only for short time, then step back saying it was an intruder, but I dont see him doing anything about it at least. JMO

Thanks, Harz, but I'm not a regular here, just once in a while, and I'm not familiar with the names you mention, except Klaas, don't remember who Vaughn is without reading the whole thread again. I'll wait for a consensus.

Re John Walsh, well, maybe he needs time to think, as we all do. Ten years have seemed almost like just a moment. I was attempting to find with a web search how many American kids had been beheaded in recent years, and found that some people ridiculed Walsh about now being a "star" due to Adam's death. Nothing constructive. There were 3 kids in Ca., but I couldn't even find out if they were siblings, if there are suspects, or anything. The word beheaded switches you off to foreign countries no matter what the rest of the search term.

[FurthurBB]

Originally posted by harz


Interesting, when you said “us”, do you mean everything revolves around you? You must be special. Do you have any idea what Vaughancauthen tend to contribute here? His or her conspiracy theories are intriguing for reading, even to both RDI and IDI. Not because these theories are found truth, it just an entertainment reading. As for John Walsh, he never had dispute with me about this case; I doubt he knows more about this case than you or anyone on this forum. As creating conspiracy theories against him by posters here are really trivial compare to what he should deserves for not being through investigating into this case. My requests to Vaughan have nothing to do at relating with anyone’s beliefs here, even you. IMO

Well, when I say us I mean everyone in the general public and yes that would mean me too. I was not talking about you in any way shape or form I was talking about the way they were attacking John Walsh who has been a great supporter of victims rights and LE. Acting like he must be stupid, when most likely he knows only what people know in general (Nothing), because he came to a different view than the person writing the post. Oh, and I do not know if you know this but, everyone is special is his or her own way. Have you never watched Barney? :shrug:

JMO, MOO, IIRC, and all that.

[Scully]

Now, thanks to the LE in Colorado, JMK is back in the USA and the incompetent blunders of California prosecutors, he's in my neighborhood!

http://www.wsbtv.com/news/10143159/detail.html

I say these two entities should be forced to have joint custody!

[lucky13]

He's in your actual neighborhood?? Yikes! Keep your children close.
So if you pass him on a sidewalk, what would you do or say, if anything??

[nuisanceposter]

I can't believe that the DA's office just took Tracey's word and didn't do the homework FIRST to find out if Karr really was the killer before bringing him back to the US so publicly. It's not like Tracey hasn't pointed the finger at other innocent people before (Helgoth and Gigax, both cleared after Tracey named them as the killer.) Lacy and Tracey ended up making complete fools out of themselves over this disaster, and poor JonBenet (and poor Polly Klaas) were victimized all over again by that sick pervert Karr and his fifteen minutes of fame.

[Athena]

Originally posted by nuisanceposter
I can't believe that the DA's office just took Tracey's word and didn't do the homework FIRST to find out if Karr really was the killer before bringing him back to the US so publicly. It's not like Tracey hasn't pointed the finger at other innocent people before (Helgoth and Gigax, both cleared after Tracey named them as the killer.) Lacy and Tracey ended up making complete fools out of themselves over this disaster, and poor JonBenet (and poor Polly Klaas) were victimized all over again by that sick pervert Karr and his fifteen minutes of fame.

Nuisance -- you have to admit those tapes of what Karr was saying was pretty freaky. I think it would have been worse if Lacy had ignored them. I think she did what she had to do; wasn't a waste either because the man needs to be kept away from children. At least what happened erred on the side of children. jmo

[shadowraith]

Originally posted by nuisanceposter
I can't believe that the DA's office just took Tracey's word and didn't do the homework FIRST to find out if Karr really was the killer before bringing him back to the US so publicly.
From Lacy's first press conference, it was quite clear she had not wanted to bring him back so publicly. Someone leaked it to the press, remember? And I'd bet money that Bangkok officials (or someone from their office) was involved in that bit. Esp considering the circus surrounding their press conference.

[Scully]

Originally posted by Athena


Nuisance -- you have to admit those tapes of what Karr was saying was pretty freaky. I think it would have been worse if Lacy had ignored them. I think she did what she had to do; wasn't a waste either because the man needs to be kept away from children. At least what happened erred on the side of children. jmo

Are you ignoring the fact that all that has happened is the children in Atlanta are now at risk? Heck, LE can't even classify him as a pedophile now because of the bungling that went on in California! What 'happened' didn't help any children anywhere, would you like him living in your neighborhood and the police can't do anything??? :rolleyes: Say what you please, but don't distort the facts.

[sweetcharlotte]

I think no parent will fail to recognize Karr ......... and know him for what he is. And, I don't think schools are going to be lining up to hire him.

At least people know him for what he is now. JMO

[edna mode]

It appears there are several theads missing this morning. Maybe it's my configuration...but, can someone tell me what's up?

[LindaA]

Originally posted by sweetcharlotte
I think no parent will fail to recognize Karr ......... and know him for what he is. And, I don't think schools are going to be lining up to hire him.

At least people know him for what he is now. JMO

Let's hope the kids of Atlanta will recognize him as well!!

[nuisanceposter]

Originally posted by edna mode
It appears there are several theads missing this morning. Maybe it's my configuration...but, can someone tell me what's up?

I thought I noticed the same thing with threads gone yesterday, but thought I might have been confused.

[edna mode]

Hopefully one of the admins with let us know what happened to the threads.

[edna mode]

Any news on the missing threads? This is weird...

[Ames]

Originally posted by edna mode
Any news on the missing threads? This is weird...

I had emailed one of the mods about one of my threads..and they said that it had been merged. I tried a search, but I still cannot find it...I believe that some threads are being deleted. BUT...thats only my opinion.