The Men in this Case: Discusssion

[The R]

I have a plan. Since you, The R, myself and a Grinstead (not Gattis) family member are in the metro area I suggest we do plan a lunch. I am sure I am the oldest of the group so I will keep all the "lust" in tow. J/K!

Seriously, if anyone wants to get together to chat in person I would be delighted to join in.

I would have no problem with this at all. It would be nice to be able to do a lunch and meet some of the good folks who care enough about this case to post on a message board in person for a change. I'll PM with my contact numbers. Thanks and looking forward to it. BTW, my wife knows I post here and has no problem with it. She is a very sociable person and may also be interested if that's no problem.

ALLMO,
R

[The R]

First off if you didn't notice the discussion was over what my sources saw and it turned into them being stalkers of Tara because they noticed a vehicle parked in different places. The source an elderly lady saw the vehicle behind the lodge. Several neighbors saw the vehicle parked in different driveways. So, since I gave the information I figured I should set the record straight that no one told me LE was checking tags and these people noticed not because they were stalking Tara. If you think Tara is being stalked then that is fine but I want to make it clear that no sources of mine were stalking Tara. I wanted it to be clear that I have never heard of LE running around Tara's house taking down tag numbers. If I see something that I said being taken out of context then I'm going to correct it. JMHO

FWIW, The R, I certainly do see some anger issues with you but I will say this for a Retired LE Officer you should have better sense then to invite someone to have lunch/coffee/or and discussion from a crime discussion forum. You have never spoken to me not once in all the times that I have been on this forum but one day out of the blue you want to meet me. I think that is strange indeed. That is exactly how I feel about it.



Results you are correct in saying that I didn't connect the dots between your sources and someone stalking TG...maybe I should've read a little more closely. Sorry for any of the confusion it caused, but when I began to think about strange cars being parked around Ocilla and what some of the locals on the forum had to say about them being so noticable, the wheels started turning and I thought about possibilities re: LE and possible corroboration of HD being there. So if I did put your sources in the same boat with stalkers it was an honest mistake.

I am surprised that you didn't address this issue of me requesting a meeting with you in a PM, I thought you'd have been courteous enough to at least contact me that way instead of airing concerns for everyone to see. After all, a PM was the way I handled the initial request. But since you did do it that way I guess I need to explain at least a couple things. First of all I didn't pop up 'out of the blue' and ask you to meet me. We have exchanged PM's before. I do remember one specific one in which I asked if you or anyone had seen the AV incident report; that something should be on file at OPD. This PM occured actually before you posted the report. I know we've exchanged at least one other PM, but don't recall what it was about.

Actually, I'd pretty much given up hope of meeting you since it's been a couple weeks since the request and I never heard anything from you. I'm not really even sure what area you live in other than knowing the city you used to note on your posts. The reason I remember the city is because it is an unusual place...kinda off the beaten path but a good place to go. If you remember in the PM I did ask if I could meet with you and yours, not knowing if you had a significant other, which BTW, is none of my business.

Results, I've always admired your spunk and tenacity in posting for Tara and wanted nothing more than to sit down with someone like that to discuss things about the case. I have no anger issues with you. I'm sorry you feel the way you do, but seeing that's how you feel and considering the way you handled it, I certainly wouldn't care to meet with you after all.

ALLMO,
R

[Results]

I don't even remember talking to you about that AV Report and yes you just PM'd the PM's to me so I stand corrected YOU DID contact me before. The truth is YOU scared the crap out of me. I didn't know what the heck to think so I thought if I didn't answer you everything would be OK and it would GO AWAY. I thought you were being ugly to me on the board because I did not respond to your PM. To confirm your claim about the PM yes you told me to bring my spouse, yes you told me you would give me references, yes you gave me your name. I have really not had a discussion with you so I was very leery when you asked to meet me. I know that you probably think I am stupid for feeling that way but in all honesty and truthfulness you scared me.

[fsbiii]

Have you brought anything yet?

OMG that sounds wonderful, LOL. Can we discuss theories and opinions without bringing the police docket and GBI files? Golly I read the TOS for this board but I did not know what all I would have to bring to this board.

[TuscanDreams]

As long as a man is married regardless if he is unhappy or happily married doesn't matter the fact is is he still is married. You know what makes me mad the most is there is a death warrant out there and you can't go to the doctor and get a shot and your cured and all is well. You take that risk of bringing it home to your family. JMHO

Absolutely and beyond the fact of diseases, let's be honest- it's morally wrong to screw around with a married person. I'm not the moral compass of the world, just making an observation.

That said, I think that maybe Tara was naive. My friend that dated the married guy has a masters in social work and she's very smart, she's just stupid when it comes to men. Maybe Tara was the same way? :shrug:

[mooloo]

Forming an opinion from what I have read here and other places and from what I already knew, I think Tara was so desperate to find a man/keep a man that she didn't care if he was married/single/rich/poor---as long as he was with her.


Absolutely and beyond the fact of diseases, let's be honest- it's morally wrong to screw around with a married person. I'm not the moral compass of the world, just making an observation.

That said, I think that maybe Tara was naive. My friend that dated the married guy has a masters in social work and she's very smart, she's just stupid when it comes to men. Maybe Tara was the same way? :shrug:

[TallaTonight]

Forming an opinion from what I have read here and other places and from what I already knew, I think Tara was so desperate to find a man/keep a man that she didn't care if he was married/single/rich/poor---as long as he was with her.

It is my educated guess that opinions like this might be the reason Tara Faye Grinstead is gone. I have seen by post here that she was not the shy princess but in my opinion this post is desperate, mooloo do you have bridges to burn with Tara? Did she infringe on your territory? Why the open dislike for a person you came here to help find? I have seen pictures of this former beauty queen and it is my opinion she could have had her choice of men, married, rich, single, or poor. This opinion is based on her looks and her education; please enrich us on what your opinion is based on?

[One2Snoop]

It is my educated guess that opinions like this might be the reason Tara Faye Grinstead is gone. I have seen by post here that she was not the shy princess but in my opinion this post is desperate, mooloo do you have bridges to burn with Tara? Did she infringe on your territory? Why the open dislike for a person you came here to help find? I have seen pictures of this former beauty queen and it is my opinion she could have had her choice of men, married, rich, single, or poor. This opinion is based on her looks and her education; please enrich us on what your opinion is based on?

Posted by Mooloo - Forming an opinion from what I have read here and other places and from what I already knew,

:confused: Can you please tell me where in Mooloo's post you see that she has a dislike for Tara. I don't get it, clue me in please????? :rolleyes:
Good gawd woman - she already told you how she formed her opinion. Are you trying to squeeze blood out of a turnip or what? :shrug:

[mooloo]

How do you think this kind of opinion is the reason she is gone? What reasoning are you using? I don't see the connection. And I don't remember where else I have seen the word "desperate" used--on one of these boards, probably, but I don't think I am the first to use it in terms of Tara and men.

It is a known fact (sorry, no link) that there ARE women in the world who do feel "lost" if they do not have a man to call their own. For some reason their self-worth is so low that they think they have to have a relationship with a man to be worthwhile. I think Tara was possibly in that group.


It is my educated guess that opinions like this might be the reason Tara Faye Grinstead is gone. I have seen by post here that she was not the shy princess but in my opinion this post is desperate, mooloo do you have bridges to burn with Tara? Did she infringe on your territory? Why the open dislike for a person you came here to help find? I have seen pictures of this former beauty queen and it is my opinion she could have had her choice of men, married, rich, single, or poor. This opinion is based on her looks and her education; please enrich us on what your opinion is based on?

[readmylips]

It is my educated guess that opinions like this might be the reason Tara Faye Grinstead is gone. I have seen by post here that she was not the shy princess but in my opinion this post is desperate, mooloo do you have bridges to burn with Tara? Did she infringe on your territory? Why the open dislike for a person you came here to help find? I have seen pictures of this former beauty queen and it is my opinion she could have had her choice of men, married, rich, single, or poor. This opinion is based on her looks and her education; please enrich us on what your opinion is based on?

an educated guess could not possibly take you to a conclusion that mooloos opinion is in any way related to tara's disappearance. an emotional, dramatic guess maybe but not an educated one.

you obviously have not read mooloo's posts much. if you had, you would know that mooloo is a straight forward poster who states opinion without a bunch of fluff. my educated assessment of mooloo is that he/she is an upfront type of person with whom you do not have to wonder where you stand. you will know. mooloo has been around for a long time and has participated openly in many discussions. if mooloo had an axe to grind i think it would have been ground long ago.

mooloo's opinion or suggestion that tara may have been a woman who felt she needed a man to be complete is a rationale observation based on the information that has been provided by many who knew tara. unlike you who has formed an impression of who tara was from your imagination in a fairy tale like manner. i don't find anything at all desperate about mooloo's words.

i am getting very impatient with the saint tara approach. be realistic. she is who she is and she is no saint. no one is crucifying her for her personality or the choices she made. but they are relevant and they are going to come out in discussion. like it or not.

jmo

[TallaTonight]

an educated guess could not possibly take you to a conclusion that mooloos opinion is in any way related to tara's disappearance. an emotional, dramatic guess maybe but not an educated one.

you obviously have not read mooloo's posts much. if you had, you would know that mooloo is a straight forward poster who states opinion without a bunch of fluff. my educated assessment of mooloo is that he/she is an upfront type of person with whom you do not have to wonder where you stand. you will know. mooloo has been around for a long time and has participated openly in many discussions. if mooloo had an axe to grind i think it would have been ground long ago.

mooloo's opinion or suggestion that tara may have been a woman who felt she needed a man to be complete is a rationale observation based on the information that has been provided by many who knew tara. unlike you who has formed an impression of who tara was from your imagination in a fairy tale like manner. i don't find anything at all desperate about mooloo's words.

i am getting very impatient with the saint tara approach. be realistic. she is who she is and she is no saint. no one is crucifying her for her personality or the choices she made. but they are relevant and they are going to come out in discussion. like it or not.

jmo

I have no opinion of Tara’s' personal life, she could be another Anna Nicole Smith and it would not matter to me. If the girl was having problems and the community knew she was on overload why not make a few phone calls to someone who cared? Her dad had lived in Ocilla, right? She was a teacher in your local schools; concern for the students should have prompted a call to someone. I just can't imagine that a young single female in the community in as much mental stress as is posted here did not receive help from someone. And especially if so many Knew about her and a student AV was her student, right? This is just universal red flags for a person crying for help and help was not given or even apparently offered. IMO this makes it all harder to understand. Thank you for your kindness and trying to help me seek an understanding.

[concernedperson]

I certainly wouldn't consider Tara a saint. Neither would I consider one person on this board or others a saint. Tara was a person with real life issues and possibly poor choices...friends, acquaintences, lovers etc. The difference between everyone here and Tara is that we aren't missing. She is.

Anyone who has a disparaging remark or a need to fill a void about Tara's choices are subject to the same scrutiny that Tara was. It is tit for tat. We can speak and encourage or discourage...she can't. So, I see no sacred cow or calf.

[readmylips]

I certainly wouldn't consider Tara a saint. Neither would I consider one person on this board or others a saint. Tara was a person with real life issues and possibly poor choices...friends, acquaintences, lovers etc. The difference between everyone here and Tara is that we aren't missing. She is.

Anyone who has a disparaging remark or a need to fill a void about Tara's choices are subject to the same scrutiny that Tara was. It is tit for tat. We can speak and encourage or discourage...she can't. So, I see no sacred cow or calf.

i dont understand your point. could you explain what you are trying to say and if there is a specific post you are speaking to? i am very confused. tia

[readmylips]

I have no opinion of Tara’s' personal life, she could be another Anna Nicole Smith and it would not matter to me. If the girl was having problems and the community knew she was on overload why not make a few phone calls to someone who cared? Her dad had lived in Ocilla, right? She was a teacher in your local schools; concern for the students should have prompted a call to someone. I just can't imagine that a young single female in the community in as much mental stress as is posted here did not receive help from someone. And especially if so many Knew about her and a student AV was her student, right? This is just universal red flags for a person crying for help and help was not given or even apparently offered. IMO this makes it all harder to understand. Thank you for your kindness and trying to help me seek an understanding.

i obviously didn't do a good job of making my point regarding the community not being responsible for diagnosing tara's potential emotional issues. maybe fep's post on this subject will make better sense. it is very logical and it made sense to me.

[readmylips]

I certainly wouldn't consider Tara a saint. Neither would I consider one person on this board or others a saint. Tara was a person with real life issues and possibly poor choices...friends, acquaintences, lovers etc. The difference between everyone here and Tara is that we aren't missing. She is.

Anyone who has a disparaging remark or a need to fill a void about Tara's choices are subject to the same scrutiny that Tara was. It is tit for tat. We can speak and encourage or discourage...she can't. So, I see no sacred cow or calf.

ohhhhhhhhhh. nevermind. i get it. it's personal. i had to read between the lines. it took me a minute. i am kind of slow sometimes. sorry.

[dixinites]

It is my educated guess that opinions like this might be the reason Tara Faye Grinstead is gone. I have seen by post here that she was not the shy princess but in my opinion this post is desperate, mooloo do you have bridges to burn with Tara? Did she infringe on your territory? Why the open dislike for a person you came here to help find? I have seen pictures of this former beauty queen and it is my opinion she could have had her choice of men, married, rich, single, or poor. This opinion is based on her looks and her education; please enrich us on what your opinion is based on?

Where, for heaven's sake, do you see a connection between Moo's statement that Tara Faye Grinstead was desperately seeking a man of her own and the fact that Tara Faye Grinstead is missing? Where in that statement do you see a bridge to burn between Mooloo and Tara Faye Grinstead? Where do you see any inference that Tara Faye Grinstead had infringed on Mooloo's territory? Where do you see any indication that Mooloo didn't like Tara Faye Grinstead? And doesn't burning a bridge mean severing a connection? Did Mooloo indicate she had a connection with Tara Faye Grinstead?

It is very true that Tara Faye Grinstead could have had her choice of many men, but it is more likely that Tara Faye Grinstead did not see it that way at all. I share Mooloo's opinion that Tara Faye Grinstead was thirty years old and desperately wanted to have a husband, a home and a family of her own.

This is not in any way a disparaging remark against Tara Faye Grinstead, but in fact, a sympathetic observation of one of the facets of Tara Faye Grinstead's life at the time of her disappearance based on information previously posted on this board.

So please, enrich us with your way of arriving at the above mentioned conclusions.

[One2Snoop]

LOL dixi - I already asked and my questions just got swept under the rug like cake crumbs. Maybe you'll have better luck. :read:

[fsbiii]

funny how that happens frequently with the same 2-3 posters

LOL dixi - I already asked and my questions just got swept under the rug like cake crumbs. Maybe you'll have better luck. :read:

[dixinites]

LOL dixi - I already asked and my questions just got swept under the rug like cake crumbs. Maybe you'll have better luck. :read:

I doubt it. She knows she makes no sense after she takes the time to read what she has written. It's pathetic. "Crack houses" and snapping twigs...Bah!

I guess we'll have to wait while she visits all the other boards "sprinkling" fairy dust along the way...

Or maybe she is reading all of those kind and encouraging PMs she's getting...do you suppose any of them are from the GBI???

[dixinites]

SNIP>I have no opinion of Tara’s' personal life, she could be another Anna Nicole Smith and it would not matter to me.

What, you have something against Anna Nicole Smith? Some personal bridges to burn with Anna Nicole Smith? This post sounds desperate to me...

I thought you liked Anna Nicole Smith!

[QUOTE] I agree when I watched Anna Nicole, and I watched everything, I wanted to bring her home and comfort her. I have no idea why but I did, I would get mad when people said awful things about her. My parents were very strict that we not say anything bad about a person because we did not know what burdens their hearts carried. [QUOTE]

[Lyndi5]

When the incident with AV took place at the house it was said HD was in the house. Was there some sort of intimate situation at that time taking place between Tara and HD?

[fsbiii]

I think only those 2 can answer that; I have my opinion.

When the incident with AV took place at the house it was said HD was in the house. Was there some sort of intimate situation at that time taking place between Tara and HD?

[mooloo]

Before this post gets started, I need to say a big THANK YOU to RML and Dixi--it is very nice to have someone read a post for what it is, plain black and white, and NOT try to force suppositions into the wording. I sincerely appreciate it.

And, now, TellaTale, perhaps others in the community knew that Tara was on such an emotional roller coaster headed completely out of control, I have not heard any local people say they saw that UNTIL it was posted here and all the info about the men friends, drama queen activities, pulling over on the side of the road, became public knowledge. Did some local people know about the men, sure, but who's job is it to to tell a responsible adult how to live her life?

Tara was active in the school community. No one ever saw her acting irrationally around the students, they most certainly were not in any danger. None of the students saw the irrational behavior. They were much more aware of Tara than adults, I believe. She spent much more time with them than she did with adults. Somewhere on here I think I have seen it posted...or maybe another board....that Tara did not have many close adult friends, that she was much more involved with her students. I believe that.

Did Ocilla fail her? no, no doubt in my mind Ocilla/Irwin County did NOT fail Tara. Ocilla/Irwin County folks are the ones who have knocked themselves out trying to find her and get her home. Ocilla/Irwin County people are the ones who have searched high and low, dry and soggy, trying to find Tara. They are the people who cooked, fed, watered, homed and supported the searchers from other places. They are the ones who took AG in and supported her in every way, even after she said, "I did not come to Ocilla, Georgia to make friends. I came to find my sister." She was a guest of a fine Ocilla person for many months.

Kids printed and put up flyers, trying to find their teacher. Ocilla people did the Spirit of Tara pageant, they did the Candlelight service that was so touching and heartfelt and they continue to search for and hope to find Tara.

Now, you tell me, how has Ocilla failed Tara Faye Grinstead?




I have no opinion of Tara’s' personal life, she could be another Anna Nicole Smith and it would not matter to me. If the girl was having problems and the community knew she was on overload why not make a few phone calls to someone who cared? Her dad had lived in Ocilla, right? She was a teacher in your local schools; concern for the students should have prompted a call to someone. I just can't imagine that a young single female in the community in as much mental stress as is posted here did not receive help from someone. And especially if so many Knew about her and a student AV was her student, right? This is just universal red flags for a person crying for help and help was not given or even apparently offered. IMO this makes it all harder to understand. Thank you for your kindness and trying to help me seek an understanding.

[Results]

I have been pretty upset by Talla's agenda on this board. Her post mock the search for Tara. I THANK YOU for coming to the board and telling it like it is. Good for you! Tipping my hat for you! Anyone that does not read that post and understand the compassion of Ocilla is surely not here to help in the quest of finding Tara. JMHO For mooloo :rose:

[Its just me]

When the incident with AV took place at the house it was said HD was in the house. Was there some sort of intimate situation at that time taking place between Tara and HD?

I don't know how intimated they were at the time of the AV incident but I think it probably had not been going on for long. I think this is why AV was so upset that he saw Tara with someone else and AV DID have a relationship with Tara and I think FG can confirm this if she will.

[Its just me]

I have been pretty upset by Talla's agenda on this board. Her post mock the search for Tara. I THANK YOU for coming to the board and telling it like it is. Good for you! Tipping my hat for you! Anyone that does not read that post and understand the compassion of Ocilla is surely not here to help in the quest of finding Tara. JMHO For mooloo :rose:

I agree Results. Moo's post tells things exactly how things went on in Irwin Co and Ocilla Georgia. Please don't ask for a link but someone from out of area told they had never witnessed a community coming together with support for a missing person as the people of Irwin Co and Ocilla. These people can hold there heads up and know they went the extra mile. Thank Moo :rose:

[Its just me]

Tara had talked to her Mom not long before she disappeared and Tara was getting medication from her Physician and brother in law LG. So her family should been in the know of Tara condition. What were the people of Ocilla to do call the Sheriff/Police and have Tara committed to get help. I believe that would be the legal steps if Tara got beyond making the decision to mananage her on health and I'm not sure how this works and if a non family member can do this. From information I have Tara was far from being in this kind of condition.

[TallaTonight]

Before this post gets started, I need to say a big THANK YOU to RML and Dixi--it is very nice to have someone read a post for what it is, plain black and white, and NOT try to force suppositions into the wording. I sincerely appreciate it.

And, now, TellaTale, perhaps others in the community knew that Tara was on such an emotional roller coaster headed completely out of control, I have not heard any local people say they saw that UNTIL it was posted here and all the info about the men friends, drama queen activities, pulling over on the side of the road, became public knowledge. Did some local people know about the men, sure, but who's job is it to to tell a responsible adult how to live her life?

Tara was active in the school community. No one ever saw her acting irrationally around the students, they most certainly were not in any danger. None of the students saw the irrational behavior. They were much more aware of Tara than adults, I believe. She spent much more time with them than she did with adults. Somewhere on here I think I have seen it posted...or maybe another board....that Tara did not have many close adult friends, that she was much more involved with her students. I believe that.

Did Ocilla fail her? no, no doubt in my mind Ocilla/Irwin County did NOT fail Tara. Ocilla/Irwin County folks are the ones who have knocked themselves out trying to find her and get her home. Ocilla/Irwin County people are the ones who have searched high and low, dry and soggy, trying to find Tara. They are the people who cooked, fed, watered, homed and supported the searchers from other places. They are the ones who took AG in and supported her in every way, even after she said, "I did not come to Ocilla, Georgia to make friends. I came to find my sister." She was a guest of a fine Ocilla person for many months.

Kids printed and put up flyers, trying to find their teacher. Ocilla people did the Spirit of Tara pageant, they did the Candlelight service that was so touching and heartfelt and they continue to search for and hope to find Tara.

Now, you tell me, how has Ocilla failed Tara Faye Grinstead?

Thank you for your narrative of what the community did. I knew the people of Ocilla had rallied and helped with the search and I also knew the teens did so much to find their beloved teacher. And maybe you as a community have came to the end of your generosity because now I see post that seem it was Tara's fault something happened to her. As an outsider looking in it is almost like the biggest cover-up in small town history. In looking back I see a post from you in just the first months saying maybe it is time the teens just move on, then I see post from you that say they hardy seem to remember their teacher now. So I see a community that NOW sees Tara was in distress, WAS having an affair (?) with a student and it was overlooked, no help was offered to either one, right? Then I see a community that was negative enough to think teens would regroup and be 'alright' in months of their teacher, that they loved, being taken from her home and never seen again, Right? No one cared enough are saw enough to help Tara in her short live in Irwin County but now in hindsight you all are experts in her emotional and sex life, right? When the school system became aware of 'an affair' with a student, if there was one, two lives could have been helped then and there with just a few phone calls. We would not be involved with a missing person, Tara would have gotten much needed help, if she was in the condition I read here she was in, and AV could have saved himself and his family the embarrassment of bloodied hands and a police report. OH by the way how is this young man doing? Has the community rallied around him and given him support?
I post on a lot of boards here and on other victim forums, most communities do not see warning signs in time to help, and here your school community had plenty of forewarning to help not only a student but a teacher, right? And as to your post about all the community did what are they doing now? Has this been a learning experience to the school system to watch and protect their students better? Has the small community offered courses for citizens to be prepared to help with search and rescue procedures in case of another missing person? Are the students still offered help if they need it, or did they all just mysteriously mend in that first month? mooloo, I see so many what ifs with your community and cannot understand you and other posters here flip ways of saying crude things about Tara? A discussion about her sexual habits and who withs are fine and I have read a year and a halves worth of that BUT it seems you all brought the seasoning to the table but left the meat on the grill. We get this picture of Tara the bad girl but not one bit of proof, facts or evidence.

[readmylips]

Thank you for your narrative of what the community did. I knew the people of Ocilla had rallied and helped with the search and I also knew the teens did so much to find their beloved teacher. And maybe you as a community have came to the end of your generosity because now I see post that seem it was Tara's fault something happened to her. As an outsider looking in it is almost like the biggest cover-up in small town history. In looking back I see a post from you in just the first months saying maybe it is time the teens just move on, then I see post from you that say they hardy seem to remember their teacher now. So I see a community that NOW sees Tara was in distress, WAS having an affair (?) with a student and it was overlooked, no help was offered to either one, right? Then I see a community that was negative enough to think teens would regroup and be 'alright' in months of their teacher, that they loved, being taken from her home and never seen again, Right? No one cared enough are saw enough to help Tara in her short live in Irwin County but now in hindsight you all are experts in her emotional and sex life, right? When the school system became aware of 'an affair' with a student, if there was one, two lives could have been helped then and there with just a few phone calls. We would not be involved with a missing person, Tara would have gotten much needed help, if she was in the condition I read here she was in, and AV could have saved himself and his family the embarrassment of bloodied hands and a police report. OH by the way how is this young man doing? Has the community rallied around him and given him support?
I post on a lot of boards here and on other victim forums, most communities do not see warning signs in time to help, and here your school community had plenty of forewarning to help not only a student but a teacher, right? And as to your post about all the community did what are they doing now? Has this been a learning experience to the school system to watch and protect their students better? Has the small community offered courses for citizens to be prepared to help with search and rescue procedures in case of another missing person? Are the students still offered help if they need it, or did they all just mysteriously mend in that first month? mooloo, I see so many what ifs with your community and cannot understand you and other posters here flip ways of saying crude things about Tara? A discussion about her sexual habits and who withs are fine and I have read a year and a halves worth of that BUT it seems you all brought the seasoning to the table but left the meat on the grill. We get this picture of Tara the bad girl but not one bit of proof, facts or evidence.


you are so deeply immersed in that woe is me, i am a victim, give me a welfare check frame of mind that there may be no successful way to get through to you and help you see reality. i am going to just shake my head and move on past your posts because you just may not be capable of rational, logical reasoning. you remind me of that woman who ended up divorced and showing her butt on national television after her son died in the war. she is embarrassing herself and the memory of her son and she doesn't even know it. i feel sorry for her.

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I have tried to avoid your gibberish to not get banned. If you seem so concerned for one teacher and Ocilla then you just might want to take that concern to someone who needs it more and that would be the Colorado students that were victimized in ther own school and had to return to the halls where there friends were running for their lives and the blood and guts they seen. That right there is something to be dramatic about. That right there deserves the help and the encouragement to go to that school of fear in the air. Go help them! Ocilla doesn't need that help but there are schools where kids and teachers need that kind of help. You attack a community you know nothing of. AG own words said she was amazed of the support of the community but yet YOU doubt them. Who the hell are you to doubt a community that searched for Tara and gave their time to do so. Where do you think the other $100,000.00 reward money came from. YOU have no right to talk about a community that you do not live in and judge them by what YOU proclaim to read since the beginning because YOU do nothing but wiggle, squarm when YOU are asked a direct question and YOU DESPERATELY TRY TO IGNORE IT OR AVOID IT. I am so tired of your bull****. You either want to help in finding Tara or you don't and if you don't then get the hell out of the way for the ones that do. Enough is Enough! YOU are so much into VICTIMS low and behold and what are you learning or doing for Colorado instead of trying to tell Ocilla how to run their town. Why don't you call Colorado I'm sure they can use all the help they can get. Go help them those are truly VICTIMS. IMO YOU are a liar and YOU are trying your best to derail any type of subject of Tara except to attack a community and AGAIN I CALL YOU OUT WHAT ARE YOU HERE FOR BECAUSE IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH TARA AND FROM YOUR OWN MOUTH THE THINGS YOU ARE SAYING YOU ARE TURNING THE WHOLE TOWN OF OCILLA INTO A VICTIM ABUSED BY YOU! I ACCUSE YOU OF VICTIMIZING OCILLA AND YOU NEED TO STOP! JMHO

[fsbiii]

RML has pegged Talla to a T, no pun intended. That's the best summary yet on this person's state of mind. "The biggest cover up in small town history"? Where do you GET this junk, lady?

[dixinites]

RML has pegged Talla to a T, no pun intended. That's the best summary yet on this person's state of mind. "The biggest cover up in small town history"? Where do you GET this junk, lady?

...Lifetime Movie Network. Right???

Is there a mental condition that requires validation after every statement?

[Brainstorm]

I think she and Maude are friends...IMO..and they've discovered a new method of deflection.....wow em with me,me,me..........
in my opinion,they can both go take a flying **** at a rolling donut.
I"M sick of it........
jmho
forgive my vulgar language.

[Brainstorm]

I think she and Maude are friends...IMO..and they've discovered a new method of deflection.....wow em with me,me,me..........
in my opinion,they can both go take a flying **** at a rolling donut.
I"M sick of it........
jmho
forgive my vulgar language.


I've decided to BAN myself,before FH20 gets here. I will ask all yous forgiveness for my ugly remark, even the ones to whom it was directed.
Would you all believ I got my quotes mixed up this morning? I had that one on the list to tell my ex.I got frustuated and shouldnt have been doing 2 things at one time. Lordy me....Forgive me.......
I gues he received a weird invitation to SO GA & a picnic on the river?
oh well, I see its time for brainstorm to get ouuta here. This is getting
ridicluous,IMO
talla,Tammy Vickers, AVs Mother, works at the CHAMBER OF COMMERCE

I tell you what,why dont you come down to SoGa,and I'llshow you around,all over the whole county,and you can ask questions,talk your bs and first you be warned that you will be asked to back up your remarks about the whole community
sincerely,BS !!

[Results]

I've decided to BAN myself,before FH20 gets here. I will ask all yous forgiveness for my ugly remark, even the ones to whom it was directed.
Would you all believ I got my quotes mixed up this morning? I had that one on the list to tell my ex.I got frustuated and shouldnt have been doing 2 things at one time. Lordy me....Forgive me.......
I gues he received a weird invitation to SO GA & a picnic on the river?
oh well, I see its time for brainstorm to get ouuta here. This is getting
ridicluous,IMO
talla,Tammy Vickers, AVs Mother, works at the CHAMBER OF COMMERCE

I tell you what,why dont you come down to SoGa,and I'llshow you around,all over the whole county,and you can ask questions,talk your bs and first you be warned that you will be asked to back up your remarks about the whole community
sincerely,BS !!

There isn't anyone that is perfect. I don't think you should be banned but I'm not FW and I can't speak for her. Sometimes (and believe me I have to tell myself this over and over again) there comes a little problem making it into a big problem and hoping that one of the sincere posters will get banned. I have finally realized it isn't about derailing the subject as much as it is trying to get the ones that are vocal and stand by what they believe in to get them banned for that is the only way to shut them up. There have been times when I thought I'm gonna get banned for that one because sometimes as hard as you try to stay away from the bad apples you just can't take it anymore. These last few days I have not posted much for the reason of to not get banned. There was a theory of a coverup and now there is a theory of the whole town coverup...how crazy is that and that is when I myself today lost it. I think it is time to just use the ignore feature and let that ignore feature be a blessing. JMHO

[TallaTonight]

I've decided to BAN myself,before FH20 gets here. I will ask all yous forgiveness for my ugly remark, even the ones to whom it was directed.
Would you all believ I got my quotes mixed up this morning? I had that one on the list to tell my ex.I got frustuated and shouldnt have been doing 2 things at one time. Lordy me....Forgive me.......
I gues he received a weird invitation to SO GA & a picnic on the river?
oh well, I see its time for brainstorm to get ouuta here. This is getting
ridicluous,IMO
talla,Tammy Vickers, AVs Mother, works at the CHAMBER OF COMMERCE

I tell you what,why dont you come down to SoGa,and I'llshow you around,all over the whole county,and you can ask questions,talk your bs and first you be warned that you will be asked to back up your remarks about the whole community
sincerely,BS !!

Why should you think you will be banned? The comment about the donut and the--oh well you know, gave me a good chuckle. Still trying to figure out how that could be be possible but I decided to leave that quest for another day. I have no need to talk to Ms. Vickers I would imagine she has had enough of this long ago. I just hope that they have gone on with their lives and found peace in their small town. I hope you and the other residents there offered this support to them, I am sure they have needed it.

[dixinites]

I think she and Maude are friends...IMO..and they've discovered a new method of deflection.....wow em with me,me,me..........
in my opinion,they can both go take a flying **** at a rolling donut.
I"M sick of it........
jmho
forgive my vulgar language.

Flying LEAP at a rolling donut...what a charmin' expression, lol.
Down girl.

[One2Snoop]

I've decided to BAN myself,before FH20 gets here. I will ask all yous forgiveness for my ugly remark, even the ones to whom it was directed.
Would you all believ I got my quotes mixed up this morning? I had that one on the list to tell my ex.I got frustuated and shouldnt have been doing 2 things at one time. Lordy me....Forgive me.......
I gues he received a weird invitation to SO GA & a picnic on the river?
oh well, I see its time for brainstorm to get ouuta here. This is getting
ridicluous,IMO
talla,Tammy Vickers, AVs Mother, works at the CHAMBER OF COMMERCE

I tell you what,why dont you come down to SoGa,and I'llshow you around,all over the whole county,and you can ask questions,talk your bs and first you be warned that you will be asked to back up your remarks about the whole community
sincerely,BS !!

LOL brainstorm you wouldn't be the first person in the world to do such a thing. ;)

I don't think its a good idea for Talla to come visit you right now - I'm afraid you might try to slap some sense into her and it might actually hurt her. :read:

[dixinites]

LOL brainstorm you wouldn't be the first person in the world to do such a thing. ;)

I don't think its a good idea for Talla to come visit you right now - I'm afraid you might try to slap some sense into her and it might actually hurt her. :read:

I'll buy a ticket!

[IrwinIndian]

does anyone think this is a totally inappropriate blog???

http://findcarrie.blogspot.com/2006/04/what-does-marcus-harper-know.html

she calls MH an arrogant *****hole and says she can't wait to see him arrested?

i was googling today and found that and almost fell on the floor.

WHO IS THIS WOMAN?

[One2Snoop]

does anyone think this is a totally inappropriate blog???

http://findcarrie.blogspot.com/2006/04/what-does-marcus-harper-know.html

she calls MH an arrogant *****hole and says she can't wait to see him arrested?

i was googling today and found that and almost fell on the floor.

WHO IS THIS WOMAN?

It looks like that was made almost a year ago - here's her complete profile if that helps any.....

http://www2.blogger.com/profile/01707084379749533705

[Results]

From a several reliable sources from Ocilla this is what they had to say about the parking of HD's vehicles and he did have several that he did use. I was glad to confirm this was true. Here is the parking of the vehicles:

Witnessed Heath's Grey F-150 parked there no more than a week earlier

Witnessed Heath's vehicle parked behind the Masonic lodge at the corner of Irwin ave. and the street Tara lived on.

Witnessed Heath's truck and a Houston Co. govt car parked in her driveway

These witnesses are people who live there and know!

It is of my opinion that this is true and correct from not one source but many.

I wanted to say that the truck was parked at Tara's no more than a week earlier before she disappeared. This source is a neighbor down the road that is not stalking Tara just has to drive by her house to get home. This information I believe is true. Also, that would mean that HD couldn't have not seen Tara for weeks. I think HD thought at the time of his short phone interview with CL that he was adding fuel to the fire for MH, JMO. I don't think that HD had any clue that these words would come back to haunt him. JMHO

[Results]

I was told that a person that went to the GBI in Perry witnessed a guy fitting Heath's description hanging out with the GBI agents that day in the office laughing and joking, they said when he started to leave one of the female agents even said "goodbye Heath".

So what is the GBI laughing a joking with a man that left his business card in the door of a missing woman? I find this conduct very unbecoming of LE Officers that are suppose to be on Tara's side not HD's. GBI laughing and joking with him what does this man have to worry about? They scream justice justice justice and I scream truth truth truth.

It is not of my intention to get anyone in trouble but rather get off your hineys and do something about this situation. Tara has not been found and NO ONE DESERVES is ABOVE THE LAW. JMHO

I had to edit this post I made. I was contacted this morning that the information I received from my source of this conduct at the GBI will talk to David Lohr and I have E-Mailed David Lohr again with how to contact the source of this event. I trust David Lohr is talking to many sources and he is getting down to the truth. JMHO

[Brainstorm]

I wanted to say that the truck was parked at Tara's no more than a week earlier before she disappeared. This source is a neighbor down the road that is not stalking Tara just has to drive by her house to get home. This information I believe is true. Also, that would mean that HD couldn't have not seen Tara for weeks. I think HD thought at the time of his short phone interview with CL that he was adding fuel to the fire for MH, JMO. I don't think that HD had any clue that these words would come back to haunt him. JMHO

My thoughts,exactly....HD thought he was adding fuel to the fire.......more fuel on my fire of thinking he was setting MH UP. JMHO
and thanks dixi,thats exactly what I meant, a flying LEAP !!!! lol

[Brainstorm]

I had to edit this post I made. I was contacted this morning that the information I received from my source of this conduct at the GBI will talk to David Lohr and I have E-Mailed David Lohr again with how to contact the source of this event. I trust David Lohr is talking to many sources and he is getting down to the truth. JMHO

I really believe this guy will be like the answers to OUR PRAYERS...I am praying for his success,finding answers,and also for his safety.This is WONDERFUL news, RESULTS !!!!!!!!! just wonderful !!!!!!!
jmho

[Brainstorm]

does anyone think this is a totally inappropriate blog???

http://findcarrie.blogspot.com/2006/04/what-does-marcus-harper-know.html

she calls MH an arrogant *****hole and says she can't wait to see him arrested?

i was googling today and found that and almost fell on the floor.

WHO IS THIS WOMAN?

OMG< where do these people come from? I can see this one coming back to bite someone in the *****....Does she know about HD?nows theres an arrogant *****hole ,IMO

[TallaTonight]

OMG< where do these people come from? I can see this one coming back to bite someone in the *****....Does she know about HD?nows theres an arrogant *****hole ,IMO

She began an organization that was formed with her family that assists relatives of missing & murdered people.
They began this work because of her first website for Carrie Culberson. They credit Carrie Culberson and her mother for all their knowledge of this growing epidemic. They feel that all cases are equal in importance.

Everyone is entitled to their opinions she just took hers a step farther and is helping victims of missing and murdered people. I Thank people who put themselves out there to help the families of missing people, they help in more ways than one can imagine, and when you meet people that have formed these websites and organizations it is humbling to see they are just plain people and you wonder where they get the recourses to keep it going. Again I Thank people who go this extra mile for our missing and murdered, no way will I condemn them for their humane efforts.
AMOO

[TallaTonight]

She began an organization that was formed with her family that assists relatives of missing & murdered people.
They began this work because of her first website for Carrie Culberson. They credit Carrie Culberson and her mother for all their knowledge of this growing epidemic. They feel that all cases are equal in importance.

Everyone is entitled to their opinions she just took hers a step farther and is helping victims of missing and murdered people. I Thank people who put themselves out there to help the families of missing people, they help in more ways than one can imagine, and when you meet people that have formed these websites and organizations it is humbling to see they are just plain people and you wonder where they get the recourses to keep it going. Again I Thank people who go this extra mile for our missing and murdered, no way will I condemn them for their humane efforts.
AMOO

Please change the bold 'recources' to resources: as in money, time and other resources.

[Results]

She began an organization that was formed with her family that assists relatives of missing & murdered people.
They began this work because of her first website for Carrie Culberson. They credit Carrie Culberson and her mother for all their knowledge of this growing epidemic. They feel that all cases are equal in importance.

Everyone is entitled to their opinions she just took hers a step farther and is helping victims of missing and murdered people. I Thank people who put themselves out there to help the families of missing people, they help in more ways than one can imagine, and when you meet people that have formed these websites and organizations it is humbling to see they are just plain people and you wonder where they get the recourses to keep it going. Again I Thank people who go this extra mile for our missing and murdered, no way will I condemn them for their humane efforts.
AMOO

I agree about what this woman has done but it doesn't give someone the right to call someone a murderer when you have no proof and you are in a position to where you seek justice for the missing and the murdered. I would think that your crediability would have to amount to something. The post was made over a year ago from what I have read. I know that I, myself, have went to findcarrie many times and read so much about that case as well as other places. The work Jill has done IMO can not even be expressed in words for all the good things she has done or tried to do BUT in a position that she is in she should know better than to write something like that. I have also seen the slide show of the Tara Missing Case where Dr Goodwin showed the Investigators being Investigated and Jill attended and saw this and more than likely met AG and others that think MH is guilty. It was very disappointing to see Jill write that and on the other hand she has the right to write it and MH has the right to sue her if he so chooses to. The problem I have with this statement is that it can be influenced by her for the people that believe in her and trust her. Example if Freshwater came on this message board and said HD is an asshole and I can't wait to see him arrested...how many people would Freshwater influence because of who she is on this message board? Everyone has a right to their opinion but make sure that you are stating that is your opinion because if MH is an asshole then that means Jill met him and he was an asshole or from hearsay MH is an asshole which either way it is still an opinion but one would have more stout then the other .... verses hearsay or she met him. JMHO

Also, which Talla are you today? Your post shows a goofy person many times and then a very level headed educated person at other times. I saw this once before but I thought it might just be a fluke so I waited for it to happen again and sure enough it did. Just so you know I know there are 2 people posting uder your nic it is very obvious and just in case you are hiding this fact you might want to correct it so it won't be so apparent.

JMHO

[The R]

I agree about what this woman has done but it doesn't give someone the right to call someone a murderer when you have no proof and you are in a position to where you seek justice for the missing and the murdered. I would think that your crediability would have to amount to something. The post was made over a year ago from what I have read. I know that I, myself, have went to findcarrie many times and read so much about that case as well as other places. The work Jill has done IMO can not even be expressed in words for all the good things she has done or tried to do BUT in a position that she is in she should know better than to write something like that. I have also seen the slide show of the Tara Missing Case where Dr Goodwin showed the Investigators being Investigated and Jill attended and saw this and more than likely met AG and others that think MH is guilty. It was very disappointing to see Jill write that and on the other hand she has the right to write it and MH has the right to sue her if he so chooses to. The problem I have with this statement is that it can be influenced by her for the people that believe in her and trust her. Example if Freshwater came on this message board and said HD is an asshole and I can't wait to see him arrested...how many people would Freshwater influence because of who she is on this message board? Everyone has a right to their opinion but make sure that you are stating that is your opinion because if MH is an asshole then that means Jill met him and he was an asshole or from hearsay MH is an asshole which either way it is still an opinion but one would have more stout then the other .... verses hearsay or she met him. JMHO

Also, which Talla are you today? Your post shows a goofy person many times and then a very level headed educated person at other times. I saw this once before but I thought it might just be a fluke so I waited for it to happen again and sure enough it did. Just so you know I know there are 2 people posting uder your nic it is very obvious and just in case you are hiding this fact you might want to correct it so it won't be so apparent.

JMHO



Looks like MPD? Multiple Personality Disorder? lol.......

Talla, I think you need to lock down your CPU when not in use, other people can use it, right?

I do have to admit, the bad Talla reminds me of Pedro a bit, maybe even Manny.....gosh, I do miss Manny.....


ALLMO,
R

PS - sorry if I butted in Results.......sometimes I can't help myself.....

[Brainstorm]

She began an organization that was formed with her family that assists relatives of missing & murdered people.
They began this work because of her first website for Carrie Culberson. They credit Carrie Culberson and her mother for all their knowledge of this growing epidemic. They feel that all cases are equal in importance.

Everyone is entitled to their opinions she just took hers a step farther and is helping victims of missing and murdered people. I Thank people who put themselves out there to help the families of missing people, they help in more ways than one can imagine, and when you meet people that have formed these websites and organizations it is humbling to see they are just plain people and you wonder where they get the recourses to keep it going. Again I Thank people who go this extra mile for our missing and murdered, no way will I condemn them for their humane efforts.
AMOO

I certainly dont want your admiration,talla,what so ever,but I've really put myself out there,for a cause also. LIke about a few dozen other folks here...
I held my opinion back for months,and months, and since I did post my opinion,everything I've read since,just goes to confirm it.....
but I should say,she sure did take it a step farther,(LOL-when did she post that?lol)...........INDEED

YOU ARE clueless,come on down to IRWIN CO. You will be safe. You can meet our LE,see the scene,bring your buddies....
There is a real Mexicasn restuarant in Fitzgerald,ga.
and BELIEVE ME I HAVE NO INTEREST IN YOU OR ANYONE ELSE..............I have friends all ages,from yuppies to grannies,to little ones,all sizes,colors,and nationalities.(and religions) so IF YOU WANT TO DO ANYTHING EXCEPT GOSSIP about this,GET OFF YOUR ASS AND GO LOOK !!!!
jmho

[fsbiii]

Interesting take on this, Talla. I didn't see anyone condemning her, but I did note her condemnation of someone else. I think some people are easily led astray and get behind "causes" without knowing many facts. I won't name any names, of course. I've looked at that blog a few times, and she seems to always have to be "right" on everything - when sometimes there isn't a "right" or "wrong" involved. Her compassion is clear, but the vigilance can get a little overstated at times. This entry about Harper is extreme, to say the least. I'm sure Anita and the handful were proud to read it though.

(ps) I don't see anything "humane" about calling someone an arrogant *****hole and hoping to see him arrested just based on a well-fed hunch.

She began an organization that was formed with her family that assists relatives of missing & murdered people.
They began this work because of her first website for Carrie Culberson. They credit Carrie Culberson and her mother for all their knowledge of this growing epidemic. They feel that all cases are equal in importance.

Everyone is entitled to their opinions she just took hers a step farther and is helping victims of missing and murdered people. I Thank people who put themselves out there to help the families of missing people, they help in more ways than one can imagine, and when you meet people that have formed these websites and organizations it is humbling to see they are just plain people and you wonder where they get the recourses to keep it going. Again I Thank people who go this extra mile for our missing and murdered, no way will I condemn them for their humane efforts.
AMOO

[TallaTonight]

I agree about what this woman has done but it doesn't give someone the right to call someone a murderer when you have no proof and you are in a position to where you seek justice for the missing and the murdered. I would think that your crediability would have to amount to something. The post was made over a year ago from what I have read. I know that I, myself, have went to findcarrie many times and read so much about that case as well as other places. The work Jill has done IMO can not even be expressed in words for all the good things she has done or tried to do BUT in a position that she is in she should know better than to write something like that. I have also seen the slide show of the Tara Missing Case where Dr Goodwin showed the Investigators being Investigated and Jill attended and saw this and more than likely met AG and others that think MH is guilty. It was very disappointing to see Jill write that and on the other hand she has the right to write it and MH has the right to sue her if he so chooses to. The problem I have with this statement is that it can be influenced by her for the people that believe in her and trust her. Example if Freshwater came on this message board and said HD is an asshole and I can't wait to see him arrested...how many people would Freshwater influence because of who she is on this message board? Everyone has a right to their opinion but make sure that you are stating that is your opinion because if MH is an asshole then that means Jill met him and he was an asshole or from hearsay MH is an asshole which either way it is still an opinion but one would have more stout then the other .... verses hearsay or she met him. JMHO

Also, which Talla are you today? Your post shows a goofy person many times and then a very level headed educated person at other times. I saw this once before but I thought it might just be a fluke so I waited for it to happen again and sure enough it did. Just so you know I know there are 2 people posting uder your nic it is very obvious and just in case you are hiding this fact you might want to correct it so it won't be so apparent.

JMHO

OMG I have been called a LIAR, accused of being so many people that I don't know and now two people or posting under my nic? LOL. I am me sometimes I'm 'goofy' (I think you said) but always know I am very serious and very determined to help Tara and others that are missing and murdered. I am 100% for the victim if I learn Tara was not a victim I will be for whom ever she victimized but until I see that I am seeing Tara has a victim. That is not silly, goofy or even intelligent in my opinion, it is only sad.

[odette]

Also, which Talla are you today? Your post shows a goofy person many times and then a very level headed educated person at other times. I saw this once before but I thought it might just be a fluke so I waited for it to happen again and sure enough it did. Just so you know I know there are 2 people posting uder your nic it is very obvious and just in case you are hiding this fact you might want to correct it so it won't be so apparent.
JMHO

Also, which Talla are you today?

FWIW .. I've noticed the two completely different styles of writing in "talla's" posts as well Results. Just an observation. :)

JMHO

[fsbiii]

Well, to everyone's credit - you have said:

(1) You are married; and
(2) You take friends to your mom's house and she sees right "though" it because of her momdar/guydar

It's quite confusing, but I think you are one person.

OMG I have been called a LIAR, accused of being so many people that I don't know and now two people or posting under my nic? LOL. I am me sometimes I'm 'goofy' (I think you said) but always know I am very serious and very determined to help Tara and others that are missing and murdered. I am 100% for the victim if I learn Tara was not a victim I will be for whom ever she victimized but until I see that I am seeing Tara has a victim. That is not silly, goofy or even intelligent in my opinion, it is only sad.

[Brainstorm]

Looks like MPD? Multiple Personality Disorder? lol.......

Talla, I think you need to lock down your CPU when not in use, other people can use it, right?

I do have to admit, the bad Talla reminds me of Pedro a bit, maybe even Manny.....gosh, I do miss Manny.....


ALLMO,
R

PS - sorry if I butted in Results.......sometimes I can't help myself.....

BITE YOUR TONGUE!!!!!! The R !!!!
and if she/he comes by,tell him that indeed, Lindsey and the Dr.s' boy got hitched up and it was a grand affair,and a BIG OLE THROW-down.....or I think
this happened.....LOL ..............GO LINDSEY & HANK !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
sorry,also, Results, for butting in,and posting OT stuff.....LOL

[Brainstorm]

OMG I have been called a LIAR, accused of being so many people that I don't know and now two people or posting under my nic? LOL. I am me sometimes I'm 'goofy' (I think you said) but always know I am very serious and very determined to help Tara and others that are missing and murdered. I am 100% for the victim if I learn Tara was not a victim I will be for whom ever she victimized but until I see that I am seeing Tara has a victim. That is not silly, goofy or even intelligent in my opinion, it is only sad.


ROFLMAAAAAAAAAO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
cry me a river !!!!!!!!!!!! if a liar is all you've been called this week, then la-de-da.............. Let me just tell you a few of the things I've been called.and a liar aint one of them !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
a f&&&&&&& Beeeyotch
a simple b&&&&
and I aint lying !!!!!!!!!!!!

I think I'll retract my invitation, Talla. You would not survive one day with Me, so go jump !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
jmho

[PNut]

Brain - *SLAP* that's me giving you a "movie" slap that someone gets when they get a little hysterical!! :seeya:

You know I kid, but really, don't let Talla get to ya. It'll only get you banned. Not worth it.

Now...pass me what YOU been hittin' this morning! :beer:

[TallaTonight]

BITE YOUR TONGUE!!!!!! The R !!!!
and if she/he comes by,tell him that indeed, Lindsey and the Dr.s' boy got hitched up and it was a grand affair,and a BIG OLE THROW-down.....or I think
this happened.....LOL ..............GO LINDSEY & HANK !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
sorry,also, Results, for butting in,and posting OT stuff.....LOL

Brainstorm, I hope you have the ability to desypher this for us. I think it would tend to be a learning experience for most of us here. And what would it have to do with Tara? Have you been on that search yet?
I would watch my language if I were, you go back and read the TOS for this site, very educational.

[fsbiii]

Desypher? Is that a new Chrysler car or something?

Brainstorm, I hope you have the ability to desypher this for us. I think it would tend to be a learning experience for most of us here. And what would it have to do with Tara? Have you been on that search yet?
I would watch my language if I were, you go back and read the TOS for this site, very educational.

Oh and pleasedo not take this as a threat, I am not the threat type. AMOO

[dixinites]

I had to edit this post I made. I was contacted this morning that the information I received from my source of this conduct at the GBI will talk to David Lohr and I have E-Mailed David Lohr again with how to contact the source of this event. I trust David Lohr is talking to many sources and he is getting down to the truth. JMHO

This is good news. We might get an article after all! Really good news!

[TallaTonight]

Desypher? Is that a new Chrysler car or something?

to decipher sorry my many multiple husbands all came in for lunch at the same time and I had forgotten which wanted Rye and which WholeWheat. Excuse this mistake it was to late to edit but I knew you would do it for me. Thanks

[fsbiii]

It happens.

to decipher sorry my many multiple husbands all came in for lunch at the same time and I had forgotten which wanted Rye and which WholeWheat. Excuse this mistake it was to late to edit but I knew you would do it for me. Thanks

[dixinites]

Desypher? Is that a new Chrysler car or something?

Yes, it has similar features to the Stealthintrepid that changes colors...

[fsbiii]

Would it out run the Chevord?

Yes, it has similar features to the Stealthintrepid that changes colors...

[PNut]

Nope can't out run the Chevord, but I hear it has a problem with dropping gloves and rusty keys at random...

[concernedperson]

I had to edit this post I made. I was contacted this morning that the information I received from my source of this conduct at the GBI will talk to David Lohr and I have E-Mailed David Lohr again with how to contact the source of this event. I trust David Lohr is talking to many sources and he is getting down to the truth. JMHO

Excellent news. I hope David comes on board with his take on the info and helps with any clarification to get to the truth.

[dixinites]

Would it out run the Chevord?

Nothing outruns a Chevord...it's so fast you never see who's driving it!

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OMG I have been called a LIAR, accused of being so many people that I don't know and now two people or posting under my nic? LOL. I am me sometimes I'm 'goofy' (I think you said) but always know I am very serious and very determined to help Tara and others that are missing and murdered. I am 100% for the victim if I learn Tara was not a victim I will be for whom ever she victimized but until I see that I am seeing Tara has a victim. That is not silly, goofy or even intelligent in my opinion, it is only sad.

Wouldn't that contradict Tara RIP or Tara Live in Peace?

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Looks like MPD? Multiple Personality Disorder? lol.......

Talla, I think you need to lock down your CPU when not in use, other people can use it, right?

I do have to admit, the bad Talla reminds me of Pedro a bit, maybe even Manny.....gosh, I do miss Manny.....


ALLMO,
R

PS - sorry if I butted in Results.......sometimes I can't help myself.....

No problem here! :beer:

[dixinites]

SNIP> I am 100% for the victim if I learn Tara was not a victim I will be for whom ever she victimized but until I see that I am seeing Tara has a victim.

You sure seem to toss that term around indiscriminately, and disrespectfully, I might add. "Victim" is in the eye of the beholder. There would appear to be many in this case, Tara being foremost. I just hope there's enough of you to go around...

[readmylips]

She began an organization that was formed with her family that assists relatives of missing & murdered people.
They began this work because of her first website for Carrie Culberson. They credit Carrie Culberson and her mother for all their knowledge of this growing epidemic. They feel that all cases are equal in importance.

Everyone is entitled to their opinions she just took hers a step farther and is helping victims of missing and murdered people. I Thank people who put themselves out there to help the families of missing people, they help in more ways than one can imagine, and when you meet people that have formed these websites and organizations it is humbling to see they are just plain people and you wonder where they get the recourses to keep it going. Again I Thank people who go this extra mile for our missing and murdered, no way will I condemn them for their humane efforts.
AMOO

you must know her well. i didn't see anyone condemn her for trying to help. i saw some comments about her very strong words against a person of whom there is not a shred of evidence against.

my opinion on the matter is that no matter how much good you do or think you do or try to do, no one has a hall pass to speak the way she did on that blog. it was out of line and bordered on victimizing another person. you might want to mention to her that her words are not representing her very well. it is obvious that she wants to do good things and maybe she would appreciate the input.

[Brainstorm]

Brainstorm, I hope you have the ability to desypher this for us. I think it would tend to be a learning experience for most of us here. And what would it have to do with Tara? Have you been on that search yet?
I would watch my language if I were, you go back and read the TOS for this site, very educational.

ONCE AGAIN< ROFLMAO !!!!!!!!!!!!
I won't(will not) decipher anything for you,talla,that was A LONG AGO POST AND SOME NIGHTMARE DAYS & nights.
AND I certainly ,probably did cause some of the confudsion(so ga for stupid+confused)but Thank God, people here deciphered my post. and I dont give a rip about you or educating you,and dont tell me to watch my language. FH20 has that job,NOT YOU>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
If I GET BANNED< SO BE IT>> I HAVE TOOK A STAND AND IF I do, I'll be out searching,not here reading ytour BS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
and also on TT,FWIW,BTW & daja(my ebonics/english,southern,etc.)has gotten me by so far.....but you sista,are clueless !!!!!!!
JMHO
and by the way, I searched on about 600-700 acres,the best I could at the time, if you are counting.......for TARA............jmho

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Preach it sista! :beer: :beer:

[TallaTonight]

Wouldn't that contradict Tara RIP or Tara Live in Peace?

Quite the opposite, If Tara made a conscious decision on her own of her own free will to leave Ocilla, when she returned home we would be there to welcome her and support her toward reestablishing her life. She would be the one to tell us if she had been stalked and why she decided to leave.
Then you would know for sure which Poi’s were innocent and which would be victims and need help in resolving their issues.
I will remain my position that I think Tara is dead, thus Rest in Peace
If she is alive, thus Live in Peace. Very easy concept. The hard part is finding the right Poi and getting something done to accelerate these actions, in other words Tara needs to be found. I think on this we can agree. Right?

[Brainstorm]

Desypher? Is that a new Chrysler car or something?

Yes, it has similar features to the Stealthintrepid that changes colors...

Would it out run the Chevord?

Nope can't out run the Chevord, but I hear it has a problem with dropping gloves and rusty keys at random...

Nothing outruns a Chevord...it's so fast you never see who's driving it!

I dont care who you are,thats funny....

[Brainstorm]

Preach it sista! :beer: :beer:

and whoever wanted some of what I had, sorry(not under the influence),this is my life,and thses were honest,although confusing(to some) thoughts & if I cant express it the way it is, I NEED TO GET BANNED !!!!!!!!!!!!
the party that called me a f&&&&&&&&&&&&&& bi&&&&&&&&& didnt dress it up for me !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Maybe I need one of those big drinks,,,and chillllllll.......I got a busy wknd.
The Reverend will be 85,and we are going to party,hardy and NO alcohol,till we get back home !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
jmho

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Quite the opposite, If Tara made a conscious decision on her own of her own free will to leave Ocilla, when she returned home we would be there to welcome her and support her toward reestablishing her life. She would be the one to tell us if she had been stalked and why she decided to leave.
Then you would know for sure which Poi’s were innocent and which would be victims and need help in resolving their issues.
I will remain my position that I think Tara is dead, thus Rest in Peace
If she is alive, thus Live in Peace. Very easy concept. The hard part is finding the right Poi and getting something done to accelerate these actions, in other words Tara needs to be found. I think on this we can agree. Right?

No arguement there. I'm sorry but I won't be supporting her with open arms at all. I think of all the peoples names that were drug thru the mud. I hope that every POI that was discussed, accused, and had their name drug thru the mud SUE THE HELL OUT OF HER! BUT hey that is just me. I personally don't think she is alive and I have my opinion of who did it. I will say this I will be glad that she is alive and well and if she is she will have damaged the missing women report ever in the history of the world and that is something she will have to live with not me. You go ahead and support her all you want to and preach on that she is still a victim if she is alive. I won't have no part of that and am not going to lie about it and be sure the next missing daughter/mother/sister/friend that goes missing without a trace and no one looks for her you just remember it could be your family member. That is what I got to say about it and I don't care who likes it. JMHO

[odette]

One of my sources was also there that day. He told me that the guy fitting Heath's description told one particular joke that had them all rolling on the floor. He said, and I quote "You guys know what kind of wood don't float?"
And the GBI agents loudly said "NO.....What kind?" And he says "Natalie Wood, Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha." My source said it disgusted him.

Well Maude .. IF what you say is true, that speaks volumes to me about the character of HD. Telling jokes about a woman who drowned. Good grief.

JMHO

[Brainstorm]

No arguement there. I'm sorry but I won't be supporting her with open arms at all. I think of all the peoples names that were drug thru the mud. I hope that every POI that was discussed, accused, and had their name drug thru the mud SUE THE HELL OUT OF HER! BUT hey that is just me. I personally don't think she is alive and I have my opinion of who did it. I will say this I will be glad that she is alive and well and if she is she will have damaged the missing women report ever in the history of the world and that is something she will have to live with not me. You go ahead and support her all you want to and preach on that she is still a victim if she is alive. I won't have no part of that and am not going to lie about it and be sure the next missing daughter/mother/sister/friend that goes missing without a trace and no one looks for her you just remember it could be your family member. That is what I got to say about it and I don't care who likes it. JMHO

One of my sources was also there that day. He told me that the guy fitting Heath's description told one particular joke that had them all rolling on the floor. He said, and I quote "You guys know what kind of wood don't float?"
And the GBI agents loudly said "NO.....What kind?" And he says "Natalie Wood, Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha." My source said it disgusted him.


Results, I TA !!!!! and I'll put it right here on the public forum......
IF TARA GRINSTEAD is alive,and comes back to Irwin County I will be in the group of "Let me get my hands on that girl,and I'll kill her myself,if Allen Morgan, Chief Hancock, Nelson Paulk and the Sherrif,even,cant get me off her fast enough!!!!!!!!!!!
She might as well take a restraining order out on me before hand........

but with that said, I 'm so so sorry,but I believe Tara is gone and

Maude, I hope you are for real,because what you've posted,IMO,is very telling,and "it always comes out in the wash" & etc. just IS FOR REAL> THANK GOD !!!!!!!!!!
does anyone doubt that God has /hasnot dealt his hand?
JMHO, and Talla, I just cant/dont know how to decipher,so tell us more about YOUR INVOLVEMENT TALLAand see if I can dechypfffer you........
jmho

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One of my sources was also there that day. He told me that the guy fitting Heath's description told one particular joke that had them all rolling on the floor. He said, and I quote "You guys know what kind of wood don't float?"
And the GBI agents loudly said "NO.....What kind?" And he says "Natalie Wood, Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha." My source said it disgusted him.

Quoted by maude:

I questioned the sources because of them stating that they were in the room when GBI agents were arguing over whether a camera's photos should be take for evidence and the statement about the GBI agent saying "someone was innocent, he's a friend of mine." That didn't ring true to what I believe GBI agents would do. It's as simple as that. I personally didn't believe GBI agents would do what the source reported. It was my opinion. I didn't ask for a link. I wasn't making a big deal out of it. And I did not attack the bearer of the sources information until she attacked me.


So, Maude, what changed your tune???????????????????????

[One2Snoop]

Quoted by maude:

I questioned the sources because of them stating that they were in the room when GBI agents were arguing over whether a camera's photos should be take for evidence and the statement about the GBI agent saying "someone was innocent, he's a friend of mine." That didn't ring true to what I believe GBI agents would do. It's as simple as that. I personally didn't believe GBI agents would do what the source reported. It was my opinion. I didn't ask for a link. I wasn't making a big deal out of it. And I did not attack the bearer of the sources information until she attacked me.


So, Maude, what changed your tune???????????????????????

Possibly the jeopardy theme song?

http://youtube.com/watch?v=EGaVhkVD8EY&mode=related&search=

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Possibly the jeopardy theme song?

http://youtube.com/watch?v=EGaVhkVD8EY&mode=related&search=

Oh my! :read: WHO THIS BE? :read: HMMMMM :read: I THINK IT BE SOMEBODY FROM CTV!

LMAO...Last glass of wine PROMISE!

[PNut]

*snip*As for the joking in the GBI office, it's possible that at that point in time, HD had been totally ruled out as a POI and they were having a coming out party. Maybe by that time, they all knew that Tara had ran away. Just my thoughts, nothing else.


except NO ONE has been ruled out of anything. Per the LE at the one year anniversary.

[Its just me]

My opinion hasn't changed about the reported argument over the camera's photos and the innocent/friend statement. As I understood it, this incident took place in Tara's house during a search. Two GBI agents arguing openly in front of other people about whether evidence should be taken because one of them was a friend of a POI doesn't ring true to me. As for the joking in the GBI office, it's possible that at that point in time, HD had been totally ruled out as a POI and they were having a coming out party. Maybe by that time, they all knew that Tara had ran away. Just my thoughts, nothing else.

I can assure you it's not the first party they have been know to have along with a steak supper to celebrate particular things. I however don't think they would be celebrating HD being totally ruled out as a POI. This is not true according to my LE source who I spoke with only a few days ago. Maybe by some chance there was one of the good guys there wanting things done right. Very possible and I for one can see this happening just like it was discribed.

[Its just me]

I'm convinced you are sincere. If it turns out that there are bad guys as you imply, they will be exposed.

They might be exposed but I'm not holding my breath for anything to be done about it during this earthly life but there is another one to come for all of us. (myself included) But I never give up with things happening in this life span.

[Its just me]

I've tryed to come to grips with my failure to be accepted in this forum. The reason finally dawned on me. And this is only my opinion.

It all started about 300 years ago. The English were the first immigrants to settle on the east coast of America. They were followed primarily by Scot-Irish settlers who moved to the remote southern back country.

The English referred to these people as crackers.
Georgia Cracker refers to the original American pioneer settlers of the State of Georgia, and their descendants. These were frontier people whose culture of self-reliance and simplicity has survived into the modern day.

The term "cracker" was in use during Elizabethan times to describe braggarts. The original root of this is the Middle English word crack, meaning "entertaining conversation" (One may be said to "crack" a joke); this term and the alternate spelling "craic" are still in use in Ireland and Scotland. It is documented in Shakespeare's King John (1595): "What cracker is this ... that deafes our ears / With this abundance of superfluous breath?"

By the 1760s the English, both at home and in the American colonies, applied the term “Cracker” to Scot-Irish settlers of the remote southern back country, as noted in a passage from a letter to the Earl of Dartmouth: "I should explain to your Lordship what is meant by Crackers; a name they have got from being great boasters; they are a lawless set of rascalls on the frontiers of Virginia, Maryland, the Carolinas, and Georgia, who often change their places of abode."

This brings me to my point. My ancestors were British and it's my opinion that my problems on this board is due to culture shock. My suspicion is that the majority of members in the Tara Grinstead forum are decended from crackers. That would explain all the jokes, cracks, pokes, and jibes that are tossed at new posters. That could even explain the joking and laughing by HD and the GBI agents as observed by sources. After all, they are probably all crackers.

Now that I understand it, it may be easier to deal with.

By the way, my source told me that if anyone else's sources are headed to Perry next Monday, he has three open seats available.

JMHO
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Ten crackers wisely led, can thrash a few without a head.
~ Woody Allen ~

I have no doubt that me and my bunch are crackers back to many generations. Mixed with a little Indian and a little Irish and all in between. Some of us are coated in sugar and and some with salt but I am not ashamed of who I am nor any of my crackers. Not perfect but I do love them.
If I have offended in any of my post please accept my humble apology. IJM

[TallaTonight]

I've tryed to come to grips with my failure to be accepted in this forum. The reason finally dawned on me. And this is only my opinion.

It all started about 300 years ago. The English were the first immigrants to settle on the east coast of America. They were followed primarily by Scot-Irish settlers who moved to the remote southern back country.

The English referred to these people as crackers.
Georgia Cracker refers to the original American pioneer settlers of the State of Georgia, and their descendants. These were frontier people whose culture of self-reliance and simplicity has survived into the modern day.

The term "cracker" was in use during Elizabethan times to describe braggarts. The original root of this is the Middle English word crack, meaning "entertaining conversation" (One may be said to "crack" a joke); this term and the alternate spelling "craic" are still in use in Ireland and Scotland. It is documented in Shakespeare's King John (1595): "What cracker is this ... that deafes our ears / With this abundance of superfluous breath?"

By the 1760s the English, both at home and in the American colonies, applied the term “Cracker” to Scot-Irish settlers of the remote southern back country, as noted in a passage from a letter to the Earl of Dartmouth: "I should explain to your Lordship what is meant by Crackers; a name they have got from being great boasters; they are a lawless set of rascalls on the frontiers of Virginia, Maryland, the Carolinas, and Georgia, who often change their places of abode."

This brings me to my point. My ancestors were British and it's my opinion that my problems on this board is due to culture shock. My suspicion is that the majority of members in the Tara Grinstead forum are decended from crackers. That would explain all the jokes, cracks, pokes, and jibes that are tossed at new posters. That could even explain the joking and laughing by HD and the GBI agents as observed by sources. After all, they are probably all crackers.

Now that I understand it, it may be easier to deal with.

By the way, my source told me that if anyone else's sources are headed to Perry next Monday, he has three open seats available.

JMHO
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Ten crackers wisely led, can thrash a few without a head.
~ Woody Allen ~

This was very good and very well versed. I have wondered myself why anyone with a different opinion is so ill received; we are all here to find Tara, Right? And I really love your sig. *LOL* best laugh I have had in days.
I have no doubt GBI and LE have dark humor, IMO you would have to be able to laugh to do the duties their job entails. This is certainly not saying I agree with this type humor. And some of the funnies(?) here is beyond my understanding and somewhat edges on the obscene IMO. But if they are as sincere as I am to find Tara Grinstead, I can overlook their childish play, I was always told not to judge because you did not know what was in another’s heart.

[Brainstorm]

I've tryed to come to grips with my failure to be accepted in this forum. The reason finally dawned on me. And this is only my opinion.

It all started about 300 years ago. The English were the first immigrants to settle on the east coast of America. They were followed primarily by Scot-Irish settlers who moved to the remote southern back country.

The English referred to these people as crackers.
Georgia Cracker refers to the original American pioneer settlers of the State of Georgia, and their descendants. These were frontier people whose culture of self-reliance and simplicity has survived into the modern day.

The term "cracker" was in use during Elizabethan times to describe braggarts. The original root of this is the Middle English word crack, meaning "entertaining conversation" (One may be said to "crack" a joke); this term and the alternate spelling "craic" are still in use in Ireland and Scotland. It is documented in Shakespeare's King John (1595): "What cracker is this ... that deafes our ears / With this abundance of superfluous breath?"

By the 1760s the English, both at home and in the American colonies, applied the term “Cracker” to Scot-Irish settlers of the remote southern back country, as noted in a passage from a letter to the Earl of Dartmouth: "I should explain to your Lordship what is meant by Crackers; a name they have got from being great boasters; they are a lawless set of rascalls on the frontiers of Virginia, Maryland, the Carolinas, and Georgia, who often change their places of abode."

This brings me to my point. My ancestors were British and it's my opinion that my problems on this board is due to culture shock. My suspicion is that the majority of members in the Tara Grinstead forum are decended from crackers. That would explain all the jokes, cracks, pokes, and jibes that are tossed at new posters. That could even explain the joking and laughing by HD and the GBI agents as observed by sources. After all, they are probably all crackers.

Now that I understand it, it may be easier to deal with.

By the way, my source told me that if anyone else's sources are headed to Perry next Monday, he has three open seats available.

JMHO
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Ten crackers wisely led, can thrash a few without a head.
~ Woody Allen ~

Now that you have us analyized ,are you going to stick around? I promise, I havent ever embarrassed any of my friends in PuBLIC.... I may be a fruitcake,but I am sincere.
jmho

[concernedperson]

I sure hope Maude sticks around. Humor mixed with intelligence is a rare bird and one to be treasured. JMO.

[dixinites]

[QUOTE=Maude;8830813]I've tryed to come to grips with my failure to be accepted in this forum. The reason finally dawned on me. And this is only my opinion.

It all started about 300 years ago. The English were the first immigrants to settle on the east coast of America. They were followed primarily by Scot-Irish settlers who moved to the remote southern back country.

The English referred to these people as crackers.
Georgia Cracker refers to the original American pioneer settlers of the State of Georgia, and their descendants. These were frontier people whose culture of self-reliance and simplicity has survived into the modern day.

The term "cracker" was in use during Elizabethan times to describe braggarts. The original root of this is the Middle English word crack, meaning "entertaining conversation" (One may be said to "crack" a joke); this term and the alternate spelling "craic" are still in use in Ireland and Scotland. It is documented in Shakespeare's King John (1595): "What cracker is this ... that deafes our ears / With this abundance of superfluous breath?"

By the 1760s the English, both at home and in the American colonies, applied the term “Cracker” to Scot-Irish settlers of the remote southern back country, as noted in a passage from a letter to the Earl of Dartmouth: "I should explain to your Lordship what is meant by Crackers; a name they have got from being great boasters; they are a lawless set of rascalls on the frontiers of Virginia, Maryland, the Carolinas, and Georgia, who often change their places of abode."

This brings me to my point. My ancestors were British and it's my opinion that my problems on this board is due to culture shock. My suspicion is that the majority of members in the Tara Grinstead forum are decended from crackers. That would explain all the jokes, cracks, pokes, and jibes that are tossed at new posters. That could even explain the joking and laughing by HD and the GBI agents as observed by sources. After all, they are probably all crackers.

Now that I understand it, it may be easier to deal with.

By the way, my source told me that if anyone else's sources are headed to Perry next Monday, he has three open seats available. JMHO [QUOTE]

Well thank you Professor, for that boring and somewhat redundant history lesson. If you do a little more digging, I think you will find that MANY of the settlers in Georgia are of English descent...probably were even shipmates of your ancestors, many of which came from debtors prisons. Your inability to be accepted has nothing to do with your heritage and everything to do with your attitude toward other posters on the board. If your hypothesis regarding this situation gives you comfort, then by all means, blanket yourself with it.

Since you proclaimed yourself as the all-seeing, all-knowing guru here who had solved the mystery of Tara's disappearance, I have to wonder why you have returned to expound further on the case. A change of heart perhaps, I only hope it is tempered with a change of attitude as well.

[Brainstorm]

[QUOTE=Maude;8830813]I've tryed to come to grips with my failure to be accepted in this forum. The reason finally dawned on me. And this is only my opinion.

It all started about 300 years ago. The English were the first immigrants to settle on the east coast of America. They were followed primarily by Scot-Irish settlers who moved to the remote southern back country.

The English referred to these people as crackers.
Georgia Cracker refers to the original American pioneer settlers of the State of Georgia, and their descendants. These were frontier people whose culture of self-reliance and simplicity has survived into the modern day.

The term "cracker" was in use during Elizabethan times to describe braggarts. The original root of this is the Middle English word crack, meaning "entertaining conversation" (One may be said to "crack" a joke); this term and the alternate spelling "craic" are still in use in Ireland and Scotland. It is documented in Shakespeare's King John (1595): "What cracker is this ... that deafes our ears / With this abundance of superfluous breath?"

By the 1760s the English, both at home and in the American colonies, applied the term “Cracker” to Scot-Irish settlers of the remote southern back country, as noted in a passage from a letter to the Earl of Dartmouth: "I should explain to your Lordship what is meant by Crackers; a name they have got from being great boasters; they are a lawless set of rascalls on the frontiers of Virginia, Maryland, the Carolinas, and Georgia, who often change their places of abode."

This brings me to my point. My ancestors were British and it's my opinion that my problems on this board is due to culture shock. My suspicion is that the majority of members in the Tara Grinstead forum are decended from crackers. That would explain all the jokes, cracks, pokes, and jibes that are tossed at new posters. That could even explain the joking and laughing by HD and the GBI agents as observed by sources. After all, they are probably all crackers.

Now that I understand it, it may be easier to deal with.

By the way, my source told me that if anyone else's sources are headed to Perry next Monday, he has three open seats available. JMHO [QUOTE]

Well thank you Professor, for that boring and somewhat redundant history lesson. If you do a little more digging, I think you will find that MANY of the settlers in Georgia are of English descent...probably were even shipmates of your ancestors, many of which came from debtors prisons. Your inability to be accepted has nothing to do with your heritage and everything to do with your attitude toward other posters on the board. If your hypothesis regarding this situation gives you comfort, then by all means, blanket yourself with it.

Since you proclaimed yourself as the all-seeing, all-knowing guru here who had solved the mystery of Tara's disappearance, I have to wonder why you have returned to expound further on the case. A change of heart perhaps, I only hope it is tempered with a change of attitude as well.

ROFLMAO !!!!!! Now this is what I called well-VERSED !!!!!!! ha,ha,ha,
jmho

[odette]

snip> I've tryed to come to grips with my failure to be accepted in this forum.

JMHO


The Tara Grinstead message board should be banned from Crimelibrary.com
The discussions focus on one person of interest even though there is not one piece of evidence of his guilt. He is accused of murder, adultery, theft, and cowardice, all of this without proof. Many of Tara's family are accused of being party to Tara's murder. This is going on even though there isn't a shred of evidence that a crime was committed.
Other than this one person of interest and Tara's family members, all other theories are dismissed as beyond belief. New members are attacked with accusations and snide remarks. New ideas are quickly dismissed and ignored. Law enforcement, which includes the person of interest, are accused of a coverup and therefore a complicity in murder.
Even with all the faults of this board, people continue to come here in hopes of helping in some way. The most recent was a member of the Grinstead family. She lasted a few days before the constant insults from some of the Long Haul Klan drove her away. She was dismissed by the words "See Ya" and a wave from a stupid little seeya gif.
This board has evolved into a patch of putrid roadkill on the internet highway, being pecked and picked over by possums, buzzards, crows, and a variety of insects. Its pitiful and a disgrace to the memory of Tara Grinstead.

"The Tara Grinstead message board should be banned from Crimelibrary.com"

"This board has evolved into a patch of putrid roadkill on the internet highway, being pecked and picked over by possums, buzzards, crows, and a variety of insects. Its pitiful and a disgrace to the memory of Tara Grinstead."

Comments like these certainly don't help Maude.

JMHO

[Brainstorm]

"The Tara Grinstead message board should be banned from Crimelibrary.com"

"This board has evolved into a patch of putrid roadkill on the internet highway, being pecked and picked over by possums, buzzards, crows, and a variety of insects. Its pitiful and a disgrace to the memory of Tara Grinstead."

Comments like these certainly don't help Maude.

JMHO
Thank you,odette.......I thought Maude was trying to be a serious poster,but I see different now...People who think they are so high & mighty need to be banned, IMO,like smart a&&& like talla and now Maude.IMOO

[Its just me]

"The Tara Grinstead message board should be banned from Crimelibrary.com"

"This board has evolved into a patch of putrid roadkill on the internet highway, being pecked and picked over by possums, buzzards, crows, and a variety of insects. Its pitiful and a disgrace to the memory of Tara Grinstead."

Comments like these certainly don't help Maude.

JMHO

Exactly. Might be British but blind as a BAT when it comes to her own faults.
Very sad situation. Seriously.

[readmylips]

I sure hope Maude sticks around. Humor mixed with intelligence is a rare bird and one to be treasured. JMO.

you hope maude sticks around? so you must be saying that when maude ssaid, "This board has evolved into a patch of putrid roadkill on the internet highway, being pecked and picked over by possums, buzzards, crows, and a variety of insects. Its pitiful and a disgrace to the memory of Tara Grinstead." you identified yourself as one of those vermin and found solace in it? whatever floats your boat.

in your haste to find new allies you might remember that it is not good to rush to the side of just anyone. i wouldn't put this one at the top of the list. maudes colors have been shown pretty well imo.

but to each his own. possum? buzzard? crow? or insect? which do you prefer?

:rolleyes:

[concernedperson]

you hope maude sticks around? so you must be saying that when maude ssaid, "This board has evolved into a patch of putrid roadkill on the internet highway, being pecked and picked over by possums, buzzards, crows, and a variety of insects. Its pitiful and a disgrace to the memory of Tara Grinstead." you identified yourself as one of those vermin and found solace in it? whatever floats your boat.

in your haste to find new allies you might remember that it is not good to rush to the side of just anyone. i wouldn't put this one at the top of the list. maudes colors have been shown pretty well imo.

but to each his own. possum? buzzard? crow? or insect? which do you prefer?

:rolleyes:

Kiss My Grits!

[readmylips]

This was very good and very well versed. I have wondered myself why anyone with a different opinion is so ill received; we are all here to find Tara, Right? And I really love your sig. *LOL* best laugh I have had in days.
I have no doubt GBI and LE have dark humor, IMO you would have to be able to laugh to do the duties their job entails. This is certainly not saying I agree with this type humor. And some of the funnies(?) here is beyond my understanding and somewhat edges on the obscene IMO. But if they are as sincere as I am to find Tara Grinstead, I can overlook their childish play, I was always told not to judge because you did not know what was in another’s heart.

i can see how you would find yourself in maudes description of the board too. putrid roadkill. kindred spirits? :rolleyes:

[readmylips]

:lol: classic. got you almost speechless. i think i'll turn in on that. thanks for the laugh.

Kiss My Grits!

[Brainstorm]

ha,ha,ha ha ha ha...ha.........ha......ha
jmho

[sogalady]

I've noticed a pattern forming. This pattern has set rules. 1. Anyone within five miles of Ocilla CANNOT be a suspect no matter how suspicious they seem
2. One suspect is chosen and you must stick to that one until he is proven innocent. 3. Anyone with connections to that one suspect is also suspect.
4. Certain words such as stalking are forbidden because they infer that it could be a local. 5. Anyone not abiding by these rules is fair game and subject to gang-bullying.

There is a cover-up going on. Who is being protected? Could it be a blanket protection of Ocilla? Is Tara living with someone in Ocilla?
IMHO

Are you KIDDING ? "There is a cover-up going on." Since reading this, I certainly would like to hear more about it,,,,,,,,is it the one where LE is involved or just the community as a whole ?

[sogalady]

I expected to hear the exact words you just spoke. They are standard words used in denial of cover-ups. You confirmed my theory.

As I said before, I am interested in learning more about the cover up. What are "standard words used in denial of cover-ups", never been involved in a cover up, therefore I wouldn't know what to expect as words used in denial ,,,,, ?? Please point them out !

I confirmed your theory,,,,,,and what might that theory be ?

[readmylips]

I've noticed a pattern forming. This pattern has set rules. 1. Anyone within five miles of Ocilla CANNOT be a suspect no matter how suspicious they seem
2. One suspect is chosen and you must stick to that one until he is proven innocent. 3. Anyone with connections to that one suspect is also suspect.
4. Certain words such as stalking are forbidden because they infer that it could be a local. 5. Anyone not abiding by these rules is fair game and subject to gang-bullying.

There is a cover-up going on. Who is being protected? Could it be a blanket protection of Ocilla? Is Tara living with someone in Ocilla?
IMHO

omg maude has us all figured out! what will we do now? and here we thought that town meeting had it all covered and no one would slip up and let the cat out of the bag! silly us. we never knew we would encounter someone as smart as maude would would see right through us. here we thought we had pulled off the first whole town coverup in history. guess we have to cancel that victory party. oh well, maybe next time. :rolleyes:

[fsbiii]

Shucks a'fire! I guess this means no pound cake or karaoke? :(

omg maude has us all figured out! what will we do now? and here we thought that town meeting had it all covered and no one would slip up and let the cat out of the bag! silly us. we never knew we would encounter someone as smart as maude would would see right through us. here we thought we had pulled off the first whole town coverup in history. guess we have to cancel that victory party. oh well, maybe next time. :rolleyes:

[concernedperson]

From the article linked below it seems OPDC Hancock is frustrated. Would like more info but no one is talking.

http://www.walb.com/Global/story.asp?S=6266555&nav=5kZQ

[Its just me]

I've noticed a pattern forming. This pattern has set rules. 1. Anyone within five miles of Ocilla CANNOT be a suspect no matter how suspicious they seem
2. One suspect is chosen and you must stick to that one until he is proven innocent.
3. Anyone with connections to that one suspect is also suspect.
4. Certain words such as stalking are forbidden because they infer that it could be a local.
5. Anyone not abiding by these rules is fair game and subject to gang-bullying.

There is a cover-up going on. Who is being protected? Could it be a blanket protection of Ocilla? Is Tara living with someone in Ocilla?
IMHO

1. Maude face reality, There are two named POI's within 6 miles of Ocilla and they are on most of our lists.
2. If you don't want to participate with who is being discussed...don't we don't care who participates but derailing a discussion because you don't like what is being discussed is a waste of everyone's time becuase it will eventually get back on track. Just like your complaints and posts calling us names and telling you have solved the case etc just don't prove to me you are someone to discuss much of anything but a bunch of poop. It you want to participate act like you have some sence or grow up. You may be British but you sure didn't learn much of what I think you propbably were taught.
3. Suspect of what you have lost me on this. Surely you don't mean a poi.
4. Stalking was discussed and it could have gone much deeper if it had not gotten out in LaLa land with who could be stalking. Common sense in every thing.
5. If you don't expect a response from the poop you post don't post it. I don't call it bullying. If you don't want this treatment DON'T POST you poop.
6. I for one do think a cover up is possible but I disagree to the location.
If Tara is living in Ocilla believe me she has not popped her head out. She may be in Ocilla/Irwing but she is no longer living and if this is the case someone knows where she is located. I thought I would try one last time to help you but for some reason I feel I have wasted my time. IJM

[fsbiii]

Yep.

"Hancock says he's frustrated because he believes someone out there has information that can help them solve this case. Police continue to work with Tara's family for leads."

From the article linked below it seems OPDC Hancock is frustrated. Would like more info but no one is talking.

http://www.walb.com/Global/story.asp?S=6266555&nav=5kZQ

[Its just me]

From the article linked below it seems OPDC Hancock is frustrated. Would like more info but no one is talking.

http://www.walb.com/Global/story.asp?S=6266555&nav=5kZQ

CP you are smart enough not to go along with this mess coming from Maude. Don't try to add more to this than the article said. I am sure someone knows something.... the poi if there is one. I can only hope someone has seen something that may help solve this and there is a possiblity of this and it was reported to the GBI but for some reason they have blundered investigating this. This not my thoughts it is something I KNOW AND CAN PROVE IT. For some reason Dr. G. ignored this but it could have been because he was not trusted and a witness had to be present when he spoke to this person. Chief Hancock is actively working this case that I know also.

[mooloo]

Well, there you go...I saw the same interview fsbiii did. Perhaps cp saw another one.

Yep.

"Hancock says he's frustrated because he believes someone out there has information that can help them solve this case. Police continue to work with Tara's family for leads."

[readmylips]

It doesn't have to be a total loss. You and your monkey can watch one of your favorite old movies. I would suggest something with a local flavor. Deliverance could be a good choice. Cute monkey ..... boy or girl?

it must be frightful to live thinking there is a movie style conspiracy around every corner. i really feel a little sympathy for you. honestly i do. all kidding aside.

you have been at all ends of the spectrum. from you guys are vermin to she's alive and i know where she is to the whole town is in cahoots. that just can't be a healthy way to operate on a daily basis. it must be exhausting. i hope you can calm down, think rationally and maybe find someone to talk to who can help you through it. no joke, no sarcasm. honest opinion based on my observation of your input.

[Its just me]

it must be frightful to live thinking there is a movie style conspiracy around every corner. i really feel a little sympathy for you. honestly i do. all kidding aside.

you have been at all ends of the spectrum. from you guys are vermin to she's alive and i know where she is to the whole town is in cahoots. that just can't be a healthy way to operate on a daily basis. it must be exhausting. i hope you can calm down, think rationally and maybe find someone to talk to who can help you through it. no joke, no sarcasm. honest opinion based on my observation of your input.

I agree RML and even if this gets to the point of laughter it is a sad situation and I for some reason have sincere compassion but the really sad part is Maude's post only takes things away from the purpose of this board.
IJM

[fsbiii]

I'd prefer a good flick about computer hacking, a black Miss GA, and my boyfriend's drugged up daughter. Those are my favorite kinds of movies, M. A lil' something for everyone makes the viewing all the more enjoyable.

It doesn't have to be a total loss. You and your monkey can watch one of your favorite old movies. I would suggest something with a local flavor. Deliverance could be a good choice. Cute monkey ..... boy or girl?

[readmylips]

Ok, after your sympathetic words I feel much better. I was scared, tired and nervous but I have settled down. Thank you, I needed that. I have put the spectrum away.

Now back to HD. Do you have an opinion on how he killed Tara? Knowing of his reported phone calls, business card in the door, calling her mama, what would be his style of murder? If he decided to strangle her, she could have scratched his hands. He seems too smart to chance that. He could have shot her but that might have attracted attention no matter where they were. It seems the most likely method would be to hit her in the head with an object like a tire tool or to cut her throat with a knife. I'm not saying he used these methods. I'm just trying to see other opinions. JMHO

i have no opinion on that subject. i haven't seen enough evidence to prompt me to dream up a method of violence and apply it to anyone. i am still trying to figure out what happened to her. maybe when i figure that out there will be something in that info that will lead me to whodunit and howtheydunit.

[readmylips]

I agree RML and even if this gets to the point of laughter it is a sad situation and I for some reason have sincere compassion but the really sad part is Maude's post only takes things away from the purpose of this board.
IJM

i agree ijm. i don't want to believe that maude operates with that in mind but it is hard to not assume that sometimes.

[readmylips]

I follow your reasoning. Until we find Tara or until some other evidence shows up, we are blowing in the wind.


as much as it pains me to admit. i agree. even so, i think that if you have hope, you continue to blow in the wind on the off chance that your lungs will grow stronger, the wind will subside and you will find some way to make progress. there are clues, there is information. somewhere, with someone. it will come out. one day. and i intend to keep blowing until it does. i don't intend to point fingers at innocent people unless there is some hard core evidence against them but i have some serious questions about hd regarding his whereabouts and behaviors. i don't apologize for that. i hope he is innocent of wrongdoing but his behaviors have left him open for scrutiny imo. he and a few others i might add.

[sogalady]

As I said before, I am interested in learning more about the cover up. What are "standard words used in denial of cover-ups", never been involved in a cover up, therefore I wouldn't know what to expect as words used in denial ,,,,, ?? Please point them out !

I confirmed your theory,,,,,,and what might that theory be ?

Bumping for Maude,,,,,,,,If you insinuate that someone is involved with/ knows of a cover up.......at least be woman enough to respond, don't just ignore but maybe ignorance is one of your strong points ???

[Brainstorm]

Ok, after your sympathetic words I feel much better. I was scared, tired and nervous but I have settled down. Thank you, I needed that. I have put the spectrum away.

Now back to HD. Do you have an opinion on how he killed Tara? Knowing of his reported phone calls, business card in the door, calling her mama, what would be his style of murder? If he decided to strangle her, she could have scratched his hands. He seems too smart to chance that. He could have shot her but that might have attracted attention no matter where they were. It seems the most likely method would be to hit her in the head with an object like a tire tool or to cut her throat with a knife. I'm not saying he used these methods. I'm just trying to see other opinions. JMHO

I have no idea on this either,and instead ask, Did she beg him to not drown,strangle or shoot her?Did she know she was dying or was he a coward and couldnt look in her eyes....I wonder what her last words were?
How long did he drive,before he had to dispose of her?
cant help but ask..
JMHO

[concernedperson]

I have no idea on this either,and instead ask, Did she beg him to not drown,strangle or shoot her?Did she know she was dying or was he a coward and couldnt look in her eyes....I wonder what her last words were?
How long did he drive,before he had to dispose of her?
cant help but ask..
JMHO

Do you have more to add about this scenario or was this a movie you saw on lifetime? In any case, I am glad you have calmed down. Yesterday you seemed out of sorts and I was quite worried. Your husband and children must have been invaluable in being there for you.

[concernedperson]

CP you are smart enough not to go along with this mess coming from Maude. Don't try to add more to this than the article said. I am sure someone knows something.... the poi if there is one. I can only hope someone has seen something that may help solve this and there is a possiblity of this and it was reported to the GBI but for some reason they have blundered investigating this. This not my thoughts it is something I KNOW AND CAN PROVE IT. For some reason Dr. G. ignored this but it could have been because he was not trusted and a witness had to be present when he spoke to this person. Chief Hancock is actively working this case that I know also.

The article had nothing to do with Maude. It was dated this month.I don't know that GBI has blundered anything. Do you? I have no idea where Dr. G. plays into this article. Chief Hancock wants info is what I got from it nothing about anyone you mentioned.

[concernedperson]

For TuscanDreams. Your theory about a female perp is noted in this recent Georgia verdict. It is not above the realm of possibility that a female is involved in Tara's case.Link below.

http://www.ajc.com/metro/content/metro/northfulton/stories/2007/03/24/0324turnermain.html

It took years to convict Lynn Turner of both murders but justice was finally dished out. Women have the same evil as men when it is instilled in the heart.

For Tara...people are still looking and still asking questions and still demanding answers.Some are listening!

[lighthousedazy]

For TuscanDreams. Your theory about a female perp is noted in this recent Georgia verdict. It is not above the realm of possibility that a female is involved in Tara's case.Link below.

http://www.ajc.com/metro/content/metro/northfulton/stories/2007/03/24/0324turnermain.html

It took years to convict Lynn Turner of both murders but justice was finally dished out. Women have the same evil as men when it is instilled in the heart.

For Tara...people are still looking and still asking questions and still demanding answers.Some are listening!Yes, for the sake of these boy's mamas, this black widow is finally going to get what she deserves. In Tara's case, it could be a female perp, I don't know, even these cases are different, I hope it will be solved. jmo

[Its just me]

The article had nothing to do with Maude. It was dated this month.I don't know that GBI has blundered anything. Do you? I have no idea where Dr. G. plays into this article. Chief Hancock wants info is what I got from it nothing about anyone you mentioned.

Isn't that want I posted? Do you think I make up things and tell lies? I thought you got that Chief Hancock was frustrated. You seemed to like Maude’s posts. I think you know what I mean and said and I’m not interested in playing games.

[Its just me]

Do you have more to add about this scenario or was this a movie you saw on lifetime? In any case, I am glad you have calmed down. Yesterday you seemed out of sorts and I was quite worried. Your husband and children must have been invaluable in being there for you.

I know BS has married children but I don't think there is a husband. Unless you know one's personal life its best to leave your smart remarks off the board. Some people live in circumstances beyond their control.

[Just The Truth]

As I said a few days ago, Tara is alive. I was told this by someone that was told by someone. This is not proof, but I have good reason to believe them. I also said she was doing well. Since then, I have been told that is not totally true. She is happy much of the time, but at times she is depressed and fearful. I don't know where she is or how she got there. I was not given any details on how or when she left Ocilla.

Yesterday, I posted that I thought there is a cover-up involving some people in Ocilla. I believe one or more people in Ocilla aided Tara in leaving and I think one or two of these poeple are in this forum. I am sure that almost no one believes what I'm saying in this post, and I completely accept that. I'm certain I will be bashed so I don't plan to read or post on this forum again. I don't enjoy being called names. And your reply to that will be: Maude, if you don't want to be called names, don't post, or better yet, get the H*ll out.

Because I don't know for sure what time and how Tara left, I wrote my opinion of what happened. Since I was told that Tara is alive, most of my theory has HD as a caring friend of Tara. The last part allows HD to be a killer, but includes my arguments of why he's not. Allowing HD to be a killer is my way of showing sympathy to the true HD haters. I have nothing to offer MH and AV haters.
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Theory:
Tara talked on her cellphone to a number of people while at the BBQ. One of them was HD around 10:30. Something Tara said to him led him to believe she might do something irrational like run away. He worried about it but it was too late at night to drive to Ocilla. Plus, what would his wife think.

Tara went home at 11:00. Several people reportedly called her on her home phone. She took a bath and slept for a few hours. She got up Sunday morning, dressed and left with someone other than HD.

Several people called her that day including HD, but they got no answer.
HD continued to call but could only leave messages. HD knew that records were being kept of his calls, but that didn't bother him because he wasn't doing anything wrong. The phone records never entered his mind. HD became more concerned so he drove to Ocilla and knocked on her door. Her car was there so he thought that she was with someone and hopefully would come back later. He left his card in the door to tell her he had been there and hoped she would call.

He drove around Ocilla, made a loop through Hawkinsville, and searched many other places for her. He came back to Tara's house around 10:30 Sunday night but his card was still in the door. He left and drove around again and came back at 12:15 Monday morning. He saw the card still in the door. He was now extremely concerned.

He called FG and asked if she would call the Portiers to see if they knew where Tara was. He knew the Portiers had a key to Tara's door and that they were friends. He didn't want to wake the Portiers himself because of how it might look. If FG had insisted that the Portiers go knock on Tara's door and open the door if she didn't answer, one of two things would have been discovered. They would have found Tara in the house or found her gone.

This discovery could have easily happened after HD called FG. If HD planned to kill Tara Monday morning, he wouldn't have called FG and asked her to call the Portiers. If Tara was still in the house and they woke her up, he wouldn't have a chance to kill her. HD's actions indicate to me that he didn't know whether she was in the house or not, but he wanted to find out.

So for those that believe HD killed Tara, I think he did it prior to 12:15 Monday morning. He had from around 12:00 PM Saturday night to around 12:00 Sunday night to make 20+ phone calls to her, while killing her, hiding her body, and then cleaning himself up. All the while knowing that the phone records would show where he was when the calls were made. And then after all that, he goes to Tara's house and calls FG which makes another phone record placing him at the scene.

Some people think HD made all the phone calls, left the card in the door, called FG, did all the coming and going just to make an alibi.

These alibis would be classed as rational irrationalities:
They have proven to fool some cracker LE officers.
Many Georgia criminals have escaped justice using these tactics.

Alibi #1.
I made 20+ phone calls to Tara and left messages, so that proves that she and I were not together. If she was with me and I was killing her, there would be no reason for me to call her or leave messages.
Therefore, I'm innocent

Alibi #2.
I left my card in Tara's door because I didn't know where she was. If I killed her and knew where her body was, why would I leave my card in her door. There would be no purpose of me leaving my card. Don't you agree?
Therefore, I'm not guilty

Alibi #3.
I called FG and asked her to call the Portiers because I wanted to find Tara. If I had killed Tara and buried her body, why on earth would I call FG and ask her to help find Tara. That doesn't make sense. Therefore, I'm not guilty.

JMHO

Huh? In the first part you say Tara is alive but in the second part you have HD klling her. I am confused. Can you explain what you mean further? TIA

[Its just me]

Huh? In the first part you say Tara is alive but in the second part you have HD klling her. I am confused. Can you explain what you mean further? TIA

I am as confussed as you are on this and am going with you asking Maudeto explain what she means. :shrug:

[mooloo]

IJM....I think she came up with these theories while she was sitting on the beach, enjoying the coastal atmostphere of Augusta. And, she has said she is not coming back here, so you may not get an explanation.


I am as confussed as you are on this and am going with you asking Maudeto explain what she means. :shrug:

[hypnotized]

Huh? In the first part you say Tara is alive but in the second part you have HD klling her. I am confused. Can you explain what you mean further? TIA


Now, don't go doing that! The correct response is, "THANK YOU FOR POSTING, MAUDE!" Maybe she will keep her promise!

[Its just me]

IJM....I think she came up with these theories while she was sitting on the beach, enjoying the coastal atmostphere of Augusta. And, she has said she is not coming back here, so you may not get an explanation.

Ohhhh I see. The coastal atmostphere of "Augusta", I'm sure that was a treat.Maybe she had booked a motel with a pool. She may not be back as Maude but she'll be back. ;)

Either HD has lots of friends or someone who likes him has multiply personalities.

[Its just me]

Now, don't go doing that! The correct response is, "THANK YOU FOR POSTING, MAUDE!" Maybe she will keep her promise!


Oh I know and I posted not realizing Maude was not coming back. We can only hope. We all have many good things that happene in our lives and maybe this will be one of them.

[Brainstorm]

Do you have more to add about this scenario or was this a movie you saw on lifetime? In any case, I am glad you have calmed down. Yesterday you seemed out of sorts and I was quite worried. Your husband and children must have been invaluable in being there for you.

[/U][/B]

I know BS has married children but I don't think there is a husband. Unless you know one's personal life its best to leave your smart remarks off the board. Some people live in circumstances beyond their control.


I DO NOT watch Lifetime movies. I can not stand such sad stories,everyone of them,a tear-jerker......
CP< DO NOT worry for one second about me.....I have 4 grown children,mostly college educated,sensible,well adjusted,tax-paying citizens...

They are a constant source of laughter,and joy......
I taught them to have open minds,and anything a guy cn do,a girl can do better !!!!
My children are awesome,cp,sorry you dont have the pleasure of knowing them( and extremely beautiful and handsome,BTW & FWIW)

now for the husband....he causes some concern,as he is a member of the snake order....but I'm doing okay,on his $$$$s......someone else has to put up with him,NOT ME...TG, IFAL !!!!!!

Dont concern yourself with ME.If you don't understand,then just pass on it...
I dont need your approval,,
I dont want your approval
have I covered every thing?

oh, this is NONE OF YOUR DAMN BUSINESS !!!!!!!!


jmho

[Brainstorm]

Oh I know and I posted not realizing Maude was not coming back. We can only hope. We all have many good things that happene in our lives and maybe this will be one of them.

can we dare hope?

[mooloo]

Nice post, Brainstorm....I have an ex of the snake order....love that name!!

I DO NOT watch Lifetime movies. I can not stand such sad stories,everyone of them,a tear-jerker......
CP< DO NOT worry for one second about me.....I have 4 grown children,mostly college educated,sensible,well adjusted,tax-paying citizens...

They are a constant source of laughter,and joy......
I taught them to have open minds,and anything a guy cn do,a girl can do better !!!!
My children are awesome,cp,sorry you dont have the pleasure of knowing them( and extremely beautiful and handsome,BTW & FWIW)

now for the husband....he causes some concern,as he is a member of the snake order....but I'm doing okay,on his $$$$s......someone else has to put up with him,NOT ME...TG, IFAL !!!!!!

Dont concern yourself with ME.If you don't understand,then just pass on it...
I dont need your approval,,
I dont want your approval
have I covered every thing?

oh, this is NONE OF YOUR DAMN BUSINESS !!!!!!!!


jmho

[Brainstorm]

thanks mooloo..its a virtual snake pit,sometimes,isnt it? and I'm afraid we could never explain that to someone of a more delicate nature....
and BTW, cp,if theres anything you want to or feel the need to share,about anything,go ahead,right here. I'm a big girl,really & can take it...
then,can someone tell me what was off OOFFFFFF???? about my posts,my thoughts? have you never wondered this?Being born & bred into a religious
enviroment(?) I wonder about this,every time we have to bury someone...
have you ever wonder how someone could do this ?(harm Tara?)
I cant help BUT wonder if he talked tyo her,etc..........
forgive me,but I am serious and this is an extremely serious matter, IMO,
and if one cant stomach such thoughts,then just go to church and pray. I will be praying,while I'm in the woods,somewhere.and forgive me, but I may laugh,or curse................to each his own....
jmho
I'll check later,that post from talla was just too much. Its to fine a day,to be sitting here, reading this. she is preventing us from moving forward....someone tell her that its possible AV is still around,and is not dangerous, and is a fine young man, IMO......his kin are top-notch too.
jmho

[Its just me]

thanks mooloo..its a virtual snake pit,sometimes,isnt it? and I'm afraid we could never explain that to someone of a more delicate nature....
and BTW, cp,if theres anything you want to or feel the need to share,about anything,go ahead,right here. I'm a big girl,really & can take it...
then,can someone tell me what was off OOFFFFFF???? about my posts,my thoughts? have you never wondered this?Being born & bred into a religious
enviroment(?) I wonder about this,every time we have to bury someone...
have you ever wonder how someone could do this ?(harm Tara?)
I cant help BUT wonder if he talked tyo her,etc..........
forgive me,but I am serious and this is an extremely serious matter, IMO,
and if one cant stomach such thoughts,then just go to church and pray. I will be praying,while I'm in the woods,somewhere.and forgive me, but I may laugh,or curse................to each his own....
jmho
I'll check later,that post from talla was just too much. Its to fine a day,to be sitting here, reading this. she is preventing us from moving forward....someone tell her that its possible AV is still around,and is not dangerous, and is a fine young man, IMO......his kin are top-notch too.
jmho


Brainstrom there is nothing off with your posts. I see you as a person who states what they mean and Mean what they state. Don't pay this type of post any attention unless you want to respond then go for it. I do and then I let it go. Bitterness destroy's the person who is bitter not the one the person is bitter toward. :patriot: You are a good asset to the board

[Results]

We have a story that starts out as all LIES! Tara went to church every Sunday the night light that was suppose to be a siganl that weekend failed, ex-boyfriend MH returns earlier then schedule, then SF and MH in a coverup, on and on and on but the one that has really stuck with me is Gacountry. The day with the Sheriff incident Gacountry is out there around the Harper property searching and she goes back to the center and learns the Sheriff is protecting the Harpers...who in the world does that make sense when she was there and had to go back to the center to find out this event when she was there? All lies with one goal to throw the investigation. #1 Tara didn't go to church every Sunday and who ever told the lie I don't know. #2 I'm thinking MH exboyfriend just recently broken up but they have been broken up for at least 6 months or over a year that isn't recent....why the lies? #3 SF was on duty and has documented alibi but because AG pointed the finger at MH she pulled an honest Law Enforcement into something she knew nothing about...does she feel any shame for this? #4 Lies about the incedent report we have the facts now why lie about that? #5 AG and BW spent 2 hours at Tara's house removing clothing and then all of a sudden try to say some of those clothing were near MH place...another lie...why? Dr Goodwin before he leaves his driveway he is going to prove MH did it if MH didn't kill him first....why...he is suppose to be an unbias investigator with tunnell vision going into Ocilla he ruined his chance to even accept anything that didn't point to MH...why? #6 BIG COVERUP IN OCILLA for what do you honestly think that all of LE are going down for MH who is not even in LE anymore...why would they do this...friends why heck no nobody in LE covered for MH but why plant the seed of doubt...why? #7 Dr Goodwin gets a death threat but doesn't have #69 it cost money in his field he can't afford $2.99 I call him out on that one I don't believe the death threat but it sure made it look like someone from Ocilla was going to kill him....get real that call could have been the easiest call to trace have any of you stopped to think that they traced a call from AV's report of a hysterical woman but couldn't trace a death threat to Dr. Goodwin...who buys this bs? #8 AG is mad at MH and points the finger right at him...why? Tara didn't even want to go around AG because she didn't want to hear AG say I told you Tara MH would never marry you and what proves this is FG did not even call AG she called MHu...Why doesn't that tell any of you anything. #9 Who was it that went to Tara's that morning MHu. #10 Almost 4 months or 5 months later new release HD was at Tara's at 12:15 AM and called FG and FG called the P's but no one did anything at that time if all these people were concerned making these phone calls then why I ask you did no one do anything about it at that time? #11 LG and AG go on national TV to say he past one question on the LDT did he have a relationship with Tara he said they said he failed it and he came out swinging which only made everyone go hmmmmm...why? #12 AG/LG has said that GBI has done nothing and that LG has to go and interview the college where Tara was going does that mean GBI is not following leads or is AG/LG lieing again?

All these lies and what are we to believe. They did their best to hide the truth. Is there anybody that find this odd because the first thing you do is tell the truth when someone goes missing and that surely was not done from the beginning until now. I fight for the truth. I want the truth. But until posters look at all these lies and ask theirselves why that are so blind. Does anyone even care of all the lies from the beginning? I do and those lies told me that it wasn't Ocilla lying look where the lies were created look who started telling lies at the beginning. Lets just for once call it like it is..isn't it time? JMHO

[ipswitch]

Results,

I agree, there have been too many lies from the very beginning. From what I heard, Tara was a churchgoer, just not a REGULAR attendee. She and MH had broken up WAY before this incident. etc, etc etc,etc (I'm not going to go point by point)

There is so much inconsistent "truth, information, etc" and some people are just picking thru them and choosing the info "they" deem fit, ie to fit Tara in their eyes of the way she should have been.

There were many lies stated on TV, in news articles, etc. started by certain people that we were supposed to believe because they were family. Ummm, as you said, FG called MHu, NOT AG.

Again, ITA.

JMHO, IMOO, etc.

[sogalady]

We have a story that starts out as all LIES! Tara went to church every Sunday the night light that was suppose to be a siganl that weekend failed, ex-boyfriend MH returns earlier then schedule, then SF and MH in a coverup, on and on and on but the one that has really stuck with me is Gacountry. The day with the Sheriff incident Gacountry is out there around the Harper property searching and she goes back to the center and learns the Sheriff is protecting the Harpers...who in the world does that make sense when she was there and had to go back to the center to find out this event when she was there? All lies with one goal to throw the investigation. #1 Tara didn't go to church every Sunday and who ever told the lie I don't know. #2 I'm thinking MH exboyfriend just recently broken up but they have been broken up for at least 6 months or over a year that isn't recent....why the lies? #3 SF was on duty and has documented alibi but because AG pointed the finger at MH she pulled an honest Law Enforcement into something she knew nothing about...does she feel any shame for this? #4 Lies about the incedent report we have the facts now why lie about that? #5 AG and BW spent 2 hours at Tara's house removing clothing and then all of a sudden try to say some of those clothing were near MH place...another lie...why? Dr Goodwin before he leaves his driveway he is going to prove MH did it if MH didn't kill him first....why...he is suppose to be an unbias investigator with tunnell vision going into Ocilla he ruined his chance to even accept anything that didn't point to MH...why? #6 BIG COVERUP IN OCILLA for what do you honestly think that all of LE are going down for MH who is not even in LE anymore...why would they do this...friends why heck no nobody in LE covered for MH but why plant the seed of doubt...why? #7 Dr Goodwin gets a death threat but doesn't have #69 it cost money in his field he can't afford $2.99 I call him out on that one I don't believe the death threat but it sure made it look like someone from Ocilla was going to kill him....get real that call could have been the easiest call to trace have any of you stopped to think that they traced a call from AV's report of a hysterical woman but couldn't trace a death threat to Dr. Goodwin...who buys this bs? #8 AG is mad at MH and points the finger right at him...why? Tara didn't even want to go around AG because she didn't want to hear AG say I told you Tara MH would never marry you and what proves this is FG did not even call AG she called MHu...Why doesn't that tell any of you anything. #9 Who was it that went to Tara's that morning MHu. #10 Almost 4 months or 5 months later new release HD was at Tara's at 12:15 AM and called FG and FG called the P's but no one did anything at that time if all these people were concerned making these phone calls then why I ask you did no one do anything about it at that time? #11 LG and AG go on national TV to say he past one question on the LDT did he have a relationship with Tara he said they said he failed it and he came out swinging which only made everyone go hmmmmm...why? #12 AG/LG has said that GBI has done nothing and that LG has to go and interview the college where Tara was going does that mean GBI is not following leads or is AG/LG lieing again?

All these lies and what are we to believe. They did their best to hide the truth. Is there anybody that find this odd because the first thing you do is tell the truth when someone goes missing and that surely was not done from the beginning until now. I fight for the truth. I want the truth. But until posters look at all these lies and ask theirselves why that are so blind. Does anyone even care of all the lies from the beginning? I do and those lies told me that it wasn't Ocilla lying look where the lies were created look who started telling lies at the beginning. Lets just for once call it like it is..isn't it time? JMHO

AMEN ! Yes it is time ! I applaud this excellent post ! Results, ITA 100%

[One2Snoop]

Well said Results! :beer:

[mooloo]

And why has MHu, Tara's bestest friend for years, not been involved in any searches, or anything else?

More and more strange...


Results,

I agree, there have been too many lies from the very beginning. From what I heard, Tara was a churchgoer, just not a REGULAR attendee. She and MH had broken up WAY before this incident. etc, etc etc,etc (I'm not going to go point by point)

There is so much inconsistent "truth, information, etc" and some people are just picking thru them and choosing the info "they" deem fit, ie to fit Tara in their eyes of the way she should have been.

There were many lies stated on TV, in news articles, etc. started by certain people that we were supposed to believe because they were family. Ummm, as you said, FG called MHu, NOT AG.

Again, ITA.

JMHO, IMOO, etc.

[odette]

Great post Results!! .. :beer:

Just looking through that list, it really makes one think about all the lies that have been told and they started on day one.

So many lies .. For what reason? .. I have my suspicions .. NO two ways about that.

JMHO

[Results]

And why has MHu, Tara's bestest friend for years, not been involved in any searches, or anything else?

More and more strange...

Exaclty! What exactly did she do Monday morning in Ocilla? Things are not adding up and I think it is time they need to. JMHO

[odette]

And why has MHu, Tara's bestest friend for years, not been involved in any searches, or anything else?

More and more strange...

Yes mooloo .. It is strange that MHu wasn't involved in any of the searches, TMK, for Tara.

I wonder if Tara ever confided in her best friend MHu about HD. I'd like to know just how much Tara told MHu about the affair?.

JMHO

[Its just me]

We have a story that starts out as all LIES! Tara went to church every Sunday the night light that was suppose to be a siganl that weekend failed, ex-boyfriend MH returns earlier then schedule, then SF and MH in a coverup, on and on and on but the one that has really stuck with me is Gacountry. The day with the Sheriff incident Gacountry is out there around the Harper property searching and she goes back to the center and learns the Sheriff is protecting the Harpers...who in the world does that make sense when she was there and had to go back to the center to find out this event when she was there? All lies with one goal to throw the investigation. #1 Tara didn't go to church every Sunday and who ever told the lie I don't know. #2 I'm thinking MH exboyfriend just recently broken up but they have been broken up for at least 6 months or over a year that isn't recent....why the lies? #3 SF was on duty and has documented alibi but because AG pointed the finger at MH she pulled an honest Law Enforcement into something she knew nothing about...does she feel any shame for this? #4 Lies about the incedent report we have the facts now why lie about that? #5 AG and BW spent 2 hours at Tara's house removing clothing and then all of a sudden try to say some of those clothing were near MH place...another lie...why? Dr Goodwin before he leaves his driveway he is going to prove MH did it if MH didn't kill him first....why...he is suppose to be an unbias investigator with tunnell vision going into Ocilla he ruined his chance to even accept anything that didn't point to MH...why? #6 BIG COVERUP IN OCILLA for what do you honestly think that all of LE are going down for MH who is not even in LE anymore...why would they do this...friends why heck no nobody in LE covered for MH but why plant the seed of doubt...why? #7 Dr Goodwin gets a death threat but doesn't have #69 it cost money in his field he can't afford $2.99 I call him out on that one I don't believe the death threat but it sure made it look like someone from Ocilla was going to kill him....get real that call could have been the easiest call to trace have any of you stopped to think that they traced a call from AV's report of a hysterical woman but couldn't trace a death threat to Dr. Goodwin...who buys this bs? #8 AG is mad at MH and points the finger right at him...why? Tara didn't even want to go around AG because she didn't want to hear AG say I told you Tara MH would never marry you and what proves this is FG did not even call AG she called MHu...Why doesn't that tell any of you anything. #9 Who was it that went to Tara's that morning MHu. #10 Almost 4 months or 5 months later new release HD was at Tara's at 12:15 AM and called FG and FG called the P's but no one did anything at that time if all these people were concerned making these phone calls then why I ask you did no one do anything about it at that time? #11 LG and AG go on national TV to say he past one question on the LDT did he have a relationship with Tara he said they said he failed it and he came out swinging which only made everyone go hmmmmm...why? #12 AG/LG has said that GBI has done nothing and that LG has to go and interview the college where Tara was going does that mean GBI is not following leads or is AG/LG lieing again?

All these lies and what are we to believe. They did their best to hide the truth. Is there anybody that find this odd because the first thing you do is tell the truth when someone goes missing and that surely was not done from the beginning until now. I fight for the truth. I want the truth. But until posters look at all these lies and ask theirselves why that are so blind. Does anyone even care of all the lies from the beginning? I do and those lies told me that it wasn't Ocilla lying look where the lies were created look who started telling lies at the beginning. Lets just for once call it like it is..isn't it time? JMHO

Thank you for this post and putting together things we "do know" and I also have to ask WHY?. It is time to call it like it is and tell things as the are and not beat around the bush. Of course there will be people with their heads in the sand but thanks for caring and smart enough to get thing back on track and looking at what is actually the truth. The lies are not from a fairly tale book there are many articles that prove this beyond any doubts. IJM

[hypnotized]

Results, EXCELLENT POST!

Amen!

[sogalady]

HI MAUDE, Noticed that you were out and about tonight too !

I think that my little bout of insomnia is over, so I will say good-bye for now !

Hope that your browsing around hasn't been too boring since you aren't reading here anymore.

[Results]

Good morning sogalady, congradulations, your baited PM to me achieved the desired affect.

You caught me reading about poor JonBenet, but your crude message brought me back to Tara's forum for the last time.

Your insults make me aware that there are truly evil minded people in this world and you never know when or where they will pop up.

Your remarks sounded suspiciously like something Adolf Hitler might have said.

My profile options are now set to prevent you from stalking me. JMHO

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"You can educate a donkey but the Results is still just a smartass."
~ Gen. R. E. Lee - 1862 ~


I love your quote. Thank you for making my day! Good luck to you! :beer:

[PNut]

Maude,

You might want to speak with Talla, she knows a LOT about victims of stalkers. She might be of help for you, in your time of need.

Hope this helps,
:seeya:

Good morning sogalady, congradulations, your baited PM to me achieved the desired affect.

You caught me reading about poor JonBenet, but your crude message brought me back to Tara's forum for the last time.

Your insults make me aware that there are truly evil minded people in this world and you never know when or where they will pop up.

Your remarks sounded suspiciously like something Adolf Hitler might have said.

My profile options are now set to prevent you from stalking me. JMHO

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"You can educate a donkey but the Results is still just a smartass."
~ Gen. R. E. Lee - 1862 ~

[TallaTonight]

We have a story that starts out as all LIES! Tara went to church every Sunday the night light that was suppose to be a siganl that weekend failed, ex-boyfriend MH returns earlier then schedule, then SF and MH in a coverup, on and on and on but the one that has really stuck with me is Gacountry. The day with the Sheriff incident Gacountry is out there around the Harper property searching and she goes back to the center and learns the Sheriff is protecting the Harpers...who in the world does that make sense when she was there and had to go back to the center to find out this event when she was there? All lies with one goal to throw the investigation. #1 Tara didn't go to church every Sunday and who ever told the lie I don't know. #2 I'm thinking MH exboyfriend just recently broken up but they have been broken up for at least 6 months or over a year that isn't recent....why the lies? #3 SF was on duty and has documented alibi but because AG pointed the finger at MH she pulled an honest Law Enforcement into something she knew nothing about...does she feel any shame for this? #4 Lies about the incedent report we have the facts now why lie about that? #5 AG and BW spent 2 hours at Tara's house removing clothing and then all of a sudden try to say some of those clothing were near MH place...another lie...why? Dr Goodwin before he leaves his driveway he is going to prove MH did it if MH didn't kill him first....why...he is suppose to be an unbias investigator with tunnell vision going into Ocilla he ruined his chance to even accept anything that didn't point to MH...why? #6 BIG COVERUP IN OCILLA for what do you honestly think that all of LE are going down for MH who is not even in LE anymore...why would they do this...friends why heck no nobody in LE covered for MH but why plant the seed of doubt...why? #7 Dr Goodwin gets a death threat but doesn't have #69 it cost money in his field he can't afford $2.99 I call him out on that one I don't believe the death threat but it sure made it look like someone from Ocilla was going to kill him....get real that call could have been the easiest call to trace have any of you stopped to think that they traced a call from AV's report of a hysterical woman but couldn't trace a death threat to Dr. Goodwin...who buys this bs? #8 AG is mad at MH and points the finger right at him...why? Tara didn't even want to go around AG because she didn't want to hear AG say I told you Tara MH would never marry you and what proves this is FG did not even call AG she called MHu...Why doesn't that tell any of you anything. #9 Who was it that went to Tara's that morning MHu. #10 Almost 4 months or 5 months later new release HD was at Tara's at 12:15 AM and called FG and FG called the P's but no one did anything at that time if all these people were concerned making these phone calls then why I ask you did no one do anything about it at that time? #11 LG and AG go on national TV to say he past one question on the LDT did he have a relationship with Tara he said they said he failed it and he came out swinging which only made everyone go hmmmmm...why? #12 AG/LG has said that GBI has done nothing and that LG has to go and interview the college where Tara was going does that mean GBI is not following leads or is AG/LG lieing again?

All these lies and what are we to believe. They did their best to hide the truth. Is there anybody that find this odd because the first thing you do is tell the truth when someone goes missing and that surely was not done from the beginning until now. I fight for the truth. I want the truth. But until posters look at all these lies and ask theirselves why that are so blind. Does anyone even care of all the lies from the beginning? I do and those lies told me that it wasn't Ocilla lying look where the lies were created look who started telling lies at the beginning. Lets just for once call it like it is..isn't it time? JMHO



This will be in response to Results post concerning LIES;
She states her post off with lie.
a. Show any of us where it ever stated she attended church every Sunday. It has been noted she went to Hawkinsville with her Mother to church but it does not say every Sunday, goodness with her schedule this would be impossible, then you also have to consider she attended church with MH and his family much of the time.Please show the post that stated she went to chuch EVERY Sunday
b. Light failed? I thought Mr. P stated this was a signal but this was a weekend and Mr. P had been in at the farm, in and out of his Ocilla home.
c. Then Gacountry goes back to the center and learns-----I looked back though old post last night and found where Gacountry told you and other posters that on the road going back to the center they met the MH leading a sheriffs car to the residence. Go back and read that post you have that information wrong if past post is right.
Now we go to you numbered theory:
1. Tara didn’t go to church every Sunday, who ever told the lie I don’t know.
Well I don’t know either, but I am sure you can pull up the post that shows this, I read all night and it is not here.
2. I’m thinking MH exboyfriend just recently broken up but they have been broken up for a least 6 months or over a year that isn’t recent.
After a relationship has long as theirs I would imagine they still cared for each I have noted this was not the first time they had broke up and gotten back together.
3. SF was on duty and has documented alibi but because AG pointed the finger a at MH she pulled an honest Law Enforcement into something she knew nothing an about…. does she feel any shame for that?
Now if I had the misfortune to find my sister was missing I would imagine I would be pointing fingers at everyone, I hope fingers would be all I would have contact with. How did AG get SF pulled from anything? I would imagine this would have been the decision of the OCP, and if you recall this was before the ride on was deemed to be true, I still find that an odd happen so but that’s my question not yours.
4. Lies about the Incident report we have the facts now why lie about them?
What did the incident report prove, that Tara was reported as a victim, that the neighbor called in the incident, that AV was so mad he beat the door until his hand was bleeding, that Tara was frightened for her safety? No the only thing you want to see is HD was there, do you know beyond an assumption why he was there? Do you know if Tara wanted to handle this herself and asked him to stand back unless she called for him? I can’t see your lie theory here.
5. AG and BW spent 2 hours at Tara’s house removing clothing and then all of a sudden try to say some of those clothing were near MH place...another lie...why? Dr Goodwin before he leaves his driveway he is going to prove MH did it if MH didn’t kill him first....why...he is suppose to be an unbias investigator with tunnell vision going into Ocilla he ruined his chance to even accept anything that didn’t point to MH...why?
Do you have an itemized list of the things AG and BW removed from this room? Do you have proof someone put something or planted something in another location? It would be very hard to prove this IMO when we have found no one to even say what clothes were missing when Tara left.
a. Dr. Goodwin and proving things, We do not really know what if anything he did to help this case. It went to GBI headquarters and there it sits if he offered anything. As to the comment about if MH didn’t kill him first, I haven’t a clue on that he appears from pics to be a man that works in the lab more than in the field, maybe he had seen “Deliverance”, I don’t know.

This is so long I will have to put into two posts.

[Results]

The Probe Begins




It was Sunday morning before the first hint of hint that something was wrong hit the small community. But even then, the people of Ocilla were not particularly alarmed. As Steve Huff wrote days after her disappearance, few eyebrows were raised when the devoutly religious 30-year-old failed to show up for church services. "Everyone has a Sunday off now and then, even the preachers," Huff wrote.

This article says what to you Talla? CL reporters lie or someone tells CL reporters lie? TIA

This is A. I will do one at a time for you Talla. Waiting for you answer.

[fsbiii]

Strange how Talla & Maude both mentioned Deliverance, ain't it?

It doesn't have to be a total loss. You and your monkey can watch one of your favorite old movies. I would suggest something with a local flavor. Deliverance could be a good choice. Cute monkey ..... boy or girl?

[dixinites]

Exaclty! What exactly did she do Monday morning in Ocilla? Things are not adding up and I think it is time they need to. JMHO

Has anything been said about the relationship between MHu and AG? Were they friendly? Did anyone notice the interaction between the two of them that day when AG FINALLY got there?

[PNut]

And both talk about stalkers....hhhmmm....

Strange how Talla & Maude both mentioned Deliverance, ain't it?

[dixinites]

Strange how Talla & Maude both mentioned Deliverance, ain't it?

"Hicks-on-the-Brain" Syndrome. Seems to be alot of that going around here lately...

And now, it seems, we will be listening to "Duelling Banjos". Oh, Goody.

[TallaTonight]

Second part of post


#6 BIG COVERUP IN OCILLA for what do you honestly think that all of LE are going down for MH who is not even in LE anymore...why would they do this...friends why heck no nobody in LE covered for MH but why plant the seed of doubt...why?
No I don’t know what to think about LE, I came to this board with a wonderful feeling for LE and GBI, it was here by mind began to wonder with this boards point blank accusation on Agents. Who planted the seed of doubt, read back over your posts? But you know I have heard stranger thing happening in LE all over this country----The Blue Wall of Silence? Is that the name? Chief Hancock did a fine job that very first day to call in GBI, I comment him.
#7 Dr Goodwin gets a death threat but doesn't have #69 it cost money in his field he can't afford $2.99 I call him out on that one I don't believe the death threat but it sure made it look like someone from Ocilla was going to kill him....get real that call could have been the easiest call to trace have any of you stopped to think that they traced a call from AV's report of a hysterical woman but couldn't trace a death threat to Dr. Goodwin...who buys this bs?
Well this one I can’t comment on, I have the basic phone pkg. also. I seldom use my home phone. As to the threat I cannot say my feeling on that because I never formed any, but he would know the consequences of reporting anything falsely and he did report it IIRC.
#8 AG is mad at MH and points the finger right at him...why? Tara didn't even want to go around AG because she didn't want to hear AG say I told you Tara MH would never marry you and what proves this is FG did not even call AG she called MHu...Why doesn't that tell any of you anything.
AG had just learned her sister was gone without a trace, wow, how would you react? I have seen nothing posted but heresy about that, but you all have posted over and over AG and Tara had no contact with one another so when did she constantly nag Tara about this? As to Faye calling Mhu I would imagine she would feel Tara might have been in contact with her since I see you all posted she never contacted AG.
#9 Who was it that went to Tara's that morning MHu.
And it was stated she and Faye and been looking for Tara even before they made the call to Ocilla Monday, right?
#10 Almost 4 months or 5 months later new release HD was at Tara's at 12:15 AM and called FG and FG called the P's but no one did anything at that time if all these people were concerned making these phone calls then why I ask you did no one do anything about it at that time?
Couldn’t exactly get your meaning in this post but I think you meant from the information Dr. Goodwin posted with the phone records since I think he is the one that actually gave the time of the call. Why would anyone do anything that first night? Her car was there, her lights were out, she was tired and even told Faye she might sleep in. I fault no one for that, to all visible affect the house looked like a tired woman taken a little much needed R&R.
#11 LG and AG go on national TV to say he past one question on the LDT did he have a relationship with Tara he said they said he failed it and he came out swinging which only made everyone go hmmmmm...why?
I did not like this interview but by this time I think they were just tired, we know MH with his lawyer made his points to the television audience maybe they decided to do the same. It did not look to be the type thing a guilty man would do IMO. That question “did you have a relationship” could carry a lot of different elements. Some people have a guilty nature, there are some honest people that fail LDT due to many things besides lying.
#12 AG/LG has said that GBI has done nothing and that LG has to go and interview the college where Tara was going does that mean GBI is not following leads or is AG/LG lieing again?
I think it was reported that LE and GBI were not checking the schools, I don’t know why. If this was true and I have no reason to believe otherwise how would that be lying by AG and LG? I am thankful someone tried to find these students.

This is not an attack or a derailment it is things that are in old post that have not been deleted, I have on neither side. I want Tara found and to heck with all this petty fighting. I commend Results for her dedication but sometimes the lie theory is just so much spin, this Results is more your opinion than fact. It was easy for me to find and I am relatively new.

[readmylips]

talla, i have a couple of questions/comments about some of your post. your help in clarification would be appreciated.

your comments are in bold. my comments/questions follow.

then you also have to consider she attended church with MH and his family much of the time. i don't recall reading anywhere that tara went to church much of the time with mh and family. can you share more about that and your source for that information?

I have noted this was not the first time they had broke up and gotten back together. how is that relevant to results comments about them having been broke up for 6 months or more? i too was under the mistaken impression for a short while that tara and mh had just broken up. it was the impression given but it was not in sync with the facts.

Now if I had the misfortune to find my sister was missing I would imagine I would be pointing fingers at everyone, I hope fingers would be all I would have contact with. i disagree with the concept of pointing fingers at everyone if one found themself in the position that a family member was missing. especially within hours of being notified. if i had a family member go missing, in the first hours i would want to assume that there was some logical reason why they were unaccounted for. it's called hope and most people have hope. even when that hope is unreasonable. the normal human mind is programmed to lean as far away from the worst outcome as possible in a situation such as this. that is why you will see family members on tv begging for a safe return or begging a missing family member to come home even when it is clear that something terrible has happened. interestingly enough, i don't think we ever saw that "normal" reaction from ag. in this particular case, if my sister were having emotional problems as we assume she was, i would be of the mindset that she had taken off for the weekend with someone to get away from her troubles. there was still no clear concept of what had happened or where she may be. there appeared to be no reason for the reaction ag had. there is an exception to every rule and maybe ag is that exception. i think her reactions were off from what most would do.

How did AG get SF pulled from anything? I would imagine this would have been the decision of the OCP, and if you recall this was before the ride on was deemed to be true, I still find that an odd happen so but that’s my question not yours. that underlined statement confuses me. are you saying that all information should be considered false until proven true? sort of like guilty until proven innocent? i don't even know that ag was aware of mh's whereabouts when she started her crusade to crucify him. maybe so, maybe no. any way you look at it, it was a strange reaction and it had repercussions toward sf because information was offered that was simply not true. as we know it now.

What did the incident report prove, that Tara was reported as a victim. oh there's that victim thing again. anytime the police are contacted and someone is in an altercation, the more passive in the incident will be deemed the victim. just because the police report uses the term victim it does not certify the status. it is common wording to describe the persons involved in an incident and does not take in to account all of the circumstances. she may have been a victim of av's anger that day but he may well have been a victim of her behaviors too. that word, victim, is misused by you often imo.

As to the comment about if MH didn’t kill him first, I haven’t a clue on that he appears from pics to be a man that works in the lab more than in the field, maybe he had seen “Deliverance”, I don’t know. i can tell you one hundred percent absolutely positively that godwin spoke those words. or rather typed them. maybe he is a fan of deliverance. whatever his excuse it was dramatic, inappropriate and unprofessional. he lost much credibility with that careless comment.

[Results]

NO it proves my point, no one goes to church every sunday as you made it appear, this girl had to be tired on Sundays, many Sundays, she was a teacher, she was taking extra classes, she was involved with cheerleading, she did pageant work, and lets not forget all those men she was pulling in one door and pushing out the other (if we believe what is posted here).

I rest my case. I don't think you can debate me because apparently you don't know what devoutly means and you can't comprehend anything anyone writes but yourself. This is sad. As for the men in her life lets see one was trying hard to get in and one was hiding under the bed so yeah pretty much points everything to exactly a lie of #A! Have a nice day! JMHO

[TallaTonight]

I rest my case. I don't think you can debate me because apparently you don't know what devoutly means and you can't comprehend anything anyone writes but yourself. This is sad. As for the men in her life lets see one was trying hard to get in and one was hiding under the bed so yeah pretty much points everything to exactly a lie of #A! Have a nice day! JMHO

My feeling about debate can be best summed up by Jack Lewis:

If there were an invisible cat in that chair, the chair would look empty; but the chair does look empty, therefore there is an invisible cat in it.
Jack Lewis (1898 - 1963)

You printed your original questions, I answered with mine, I have seen the LHG end a post with enuff said, or something like that, so that is the way I will end this.
I do have to go and I promise I will be back later, don't miss me to much and keep that spin going, someone just might auctually be reading this, Toodles:seeya:

[Results]

My feeling about debate can be best summed up by Jack Lewis:

If there were an invisible cat in that chair, the chair would look empty; but the chair does look empty, therefore there is an invisible cat in it.
Jack Lewis (1898 - 1963)

You printed your original questions, I answered with mine, I have seen the LHG end a post with enuff said, or something like that, so that is the way I will end this.
I do have to go and I promise I will be back later, don't miss me to much and keep that spin going, someone just might auctually be reading this, Toodles:seeya:

I thought you had a meeting you couldn't miss?

[Its just me]

I rest my case. I don't think you can debate me because apparently you don't know what devoutly means and you can't comprehend anything anyone writes but yourself. This is sad. As for the men in her life lets see one was trying hard to get in and one was hiding under the bed so yeah pretty much points everything to exactly a lie of #A! Have a nice day! JMHO
My very strong and very humble opinion is Talla's main purpose is to defend HD and the GBI. She is the one that can spin all she want but some things are plain as the nose on my face. Don't waste your time. It will lead to no where. IJM

[Results]

My very strong and very humble opinion is Talla's main purpose is to defend HD and the GBI. She is the one that can spin all she want but some things are plain as the nose on my face. Don't waste your time. It will lead to no where. IJM

I don't think that is her purpose at all! She don't like the LHG or the TT members that is what she don't like and that is why she is here and the truth needs to be told about it. Talla cares nothing about Tara what she cares about is trying to bring down a group of people that have tried with everything they could to get to the truth. Wherever the cards fall that is where they are going to fall...the truth is the truth can't change that but I'm not going to sit her one more second and let her talk bad about the many people that try to get along even though we don't have the same opinion. I'm standing my ground on this one! JMHO

[One2Snoop]

NO it proves my point, no one goes to church every sunday as you made it appear, this girl had to be tired on Sundays, many Sundays, she was a teacher, she was taking extra classes, she was involved with cheerleading, she did pageant work, and lets not forget all those men she was pulling in one door and pushing out the other (if we believe what is posted here).

I believe you misunderstood what Results was saying and I think we can say we all agree on this point - Tara didn't go to church every sunday.

Regarding your last comment - Please tell how "all these men" evolved? There were two men. Its documented in the AV incident report - HD was behind the door and AV was on the outside of the door.

[Atok]

I just want to say that if there is an invisible cat in a chair, we'd know, not because it can be seen, but because it's weight would be noticed. The cat is not without weight just because it is invisible.

There are facts here that seem to be more invisible, but they are not without weight. It is going to take someone who has better perception than just eyes to solve this case.

The cat would also be detectable using infrared, perhaps the cat can be heard breathing or purring, perhaps the cat leaves hair on the chair. My point being if all you can use to debate facts is that quote... it's no wonder you can't tell if there is a cat on a chair.

[fsbiii]

<<< *meow* >>>

[dixinites]

I just want to say that if there is an invisible cat in a chair, we'd know, not because it can be seen, but because it's weight would be noticed. The cat is not without weight just because it is invisible.

There are facts here that seem to be more invisible, but they are not without weight. It is going to take someone who has better perception than just eyes to solve this case.

The cat would also be detectable using infrared, perhaps the cat can be heard breathing or purring, perhaps the cat leaves hair on the chair. My point being if all you can use to debate facts is that quote... it's no wonder you can't tell if there is a cat on a chair.

...or perhaps you could smell the cat, but in this case, I smell a RAT!

Results, I don't think it's possible to debate someone who has no grasp of the term "logic". She is incapable of logical thought. You will do as you like, of course, but I agree with IJM, she's a big waste of time and enjoys the attention.

[Results]

...or perhaps you could smell the cat, but in this case, I smell a RAT!

Results, I don't think it's possible to debate someone who has no grasp of the term "logic". She is incapable of logical thought. You will do as you like, of course, but I agree with IJM, she's a big waste of time and enjoys the attention.

I'm not talking about debating with her. I'm talking about she is not here for Tara and just wants to cause problems with the ones that have tried so hard to get along although we don't all agree on everything. JMHO

[Brainstorm]

I thought you had a meeting you couldn't miss?

Good catch,Results,...........she cant keep up,so that was an early warning signal to us,..ha,ha,ha
GO TO YOUR MEETING.....we dont care !!! you dont have to report to us,or sign off,or explain, we dont care !!!!!!! WE are here for the purpose of exposing the truth,abiut what happenend to Tara, and you are a pain in the ass !!!!!
jmho

[dixinites]

I'm not talking about debating with her. I'm talking about she is not here for Tara and just wants to cause problems with the ones that have tried so hard to get along although we don't all agree on everything. JMHO

JMO, but I think you have correctly identified her "issues"...other than the obvious mental ones...LHG and TT. It seems to me that we had an influx of people with similar issues at about the same time.

[ipswitch]

I'm not talking about debating with her. I'm talking about she is not here for Tara and just wants to cause problems with the ones that have tried so hard to get along although we don't all agree on everything. JMHO

Results,

I have to agree with you on this one. We've had our differences, and I've had differences with a host of others, but I'm still here for Tara.

I will state again, I heard that Tara was a churchgoer, just not on EVERY SINGLE Sunday!

She may have been a devout Christian, but I know PLENTY of devout Christians and Catholics that DON'T attend services EVERY SINGLE SUNDAY.

Anyway, as I was saying, I agree, Talla is here just to cause trouble.

JMHO

[Results]

Good catch,Results,...........she cant keep up,so that was an early warning signal to us,..ha,ha,ha
GO TO YOUR MEETING.....we dont care !!! you dont have to report to us,or sign off,or explain, we dont care !!!!!!! WE are here for the purpose of exposing the truth,abiut what happenend to Tara, and you are a pain in the ass !!!!!
jmho

Tell it like it is girl! Don't hold back! :biggrin:

[Brainstorm]

And why has MHu, Tara's bestest friend for years, not been involved in any searches, or anything else?

More and more strange...


I sure hope David talks to her,and I hope she realizes that what she knows could bring her friend home. IMO,she was a Good friend,and kept secrets for Tara,but when this happened,IMO SHE got scared,because of the other parties involved, HD<AG & LG............so she kept quiet. I dont know her, this is just my opinion. But she was probably intimidated byt AG<LG,& HD......so she kept quiet. PLEASE< MHu.........you will be the bestEST friend ever if YOU TELL THE TRUTH....... and who would dare bother you now, if you speak up ??????
are you going to be under someone else influence the rest of your life????
jmho

[TallaTonight]

I don't think that is her purpose at all! She don't like the LHG or the TT members that is what she don't like and that is why she is here and the truth needs to be told about it. Talla cares nothing about Tara what she cares about is trying to bring down a group of people that have tried with everything they could to get to the truth. Wherever the cards fall that is where they are going to fall...the truth is the truth can't change that but I'm not going to sit her one more second and let her talk bad about the many people that try to get along even though we don't have the same opinion. I'm standing my ground on this one! JMHO


No results I was just a little overwhelmed by the proclivities on this board when I arrived here. No one had come forward to challenger this in a long time I found this odd. I have tried to get people to look and see some of the inclinations are indeed objectionable. I have no idea what HD's true actions were in this case, as I might add none of us do, whatever it was it was private between He and Tara. When you get him to come on here and spill his heart to you I will stand at attention and join your army of 10 (as in your sig). Until then I will look at all Poi's including AV.


This will have to include all who have posted about me this morning, I am having a quick lunch and more appt. this afternoon, I still have to work sometimes *LOL*.

[janis]

No results I was just a little overwhelmed by the proclivities on this board when I arrived here. No one had come forward to challenger this in a long time I found this odd. I have tried to get people to look and see some of the inclinations are indeed objectionable. I have no idea what HD's true actions were in this case, as I might add none of us do, whatever it was it was private between He and Tara. When you get him to come on here and spill his heart to you I will stand at attention and join your army of 10 (as in your sig). Until then I will look at all Poi's including AV.


This will have to include all who have posted about me this morning, I am having a quick lunch and more appt. this afternoon, I still have to work sometimes *LOL*.


As in "Patient Appointments"? :biggrin: Oh Boy!!

[Brainstorm]

As in "Patient Appointments"? :biggrin: Oh Boy!!

GOD Forbid !!!! I hope she is the patient !!!
JMHO

[dixinites]

SNIP>This will have to include all who have posted about me this morning, I am having a quick lunch and more appt. this afternoon, I still have to work sometimes *LOL*.

OMG, here we go with another "Day in the Life" installment. TMI, Tallyho, TMI.:cool:

[Results]

OK EVERYBODY AT ATTENTION! LINE UP! J/K

I thought spring break was over with? :shrug:

[One2Snoop]

OK EVERYBODY AT ATTENTION! LINE UP! J/K

I thought spring break was over with? :shrug:

It hasn't even begun here - LOL - another 2 weeks before that happens.

[Brainstorm]

OK EVERYBODY AT ATTENTION! LINE UP! J/K

I thought spring break was over with? :shrug:

could be after-glow,or hang-over...........
jmho

[mooloo]

Ya gotta hate it when a Proclivity overwhelms you. Dang. That's brutal.

As in "Patient Appointments"? :biggrin: Oh Boy!!

[dixinites]

Ya gotta hate it when a Proclivity overwhelms you. Dang. That's brutal.

Sounds like a personal hygiene product to me...OUCH!:eek: You have to be careful with those and READ the directions!

[Brainstorm]

It hasn't even begun here - LOL - another 2 weeks before that happens.

Its still happenening, IMO........my brother was in Ga. for 2 days,then was having a 5 hr. layover in Chicago,trying to get back to Oregon.He didnt realize all the spring break traveling was in full swing...we are a little older ,and spring break is a distant,precious memories...
I hope he got better connections..and arrived home safely....see you next time, bro.
Forgive me for getting OT.I need to get something else off my chest....
Rersults, I have a dilemna.....My friend,who was my friend,long before HE married,and me too, is still my friend......He came over to camp out and fish...
this weekend... He told me,in front of witnesses,(one of them,his wife) that he was coming to my place later..
we have a graand ole time,every time......he's like me and doesnt do crowds very well, but we have had some mighty fine times,on the river,etc.
See,since my brothers have scatterred out, I need brother-friends.....
I have always felt safe and protected,when I'm with my friends.
He has NEVER been anything but a brother type friend to me...I trust him with my life,and have before.......
the problem is, the shack hasnt been stayed in, in about 2 yrs. and he saw a mouse,climbing across a chain,leading from the light to the plug in.
Now we are not scared,of boogey men or storms, but the rats gotta go !!!!
As we laughed,and drank,and laughed and drank, that rat turned into three,with each of them toting a litter on their backs !!!!!(across a tight-rope !!)
Needless to say, MY FRIEND spent the night AT MY HOUSE !!!!!!!!
He slept in a spare bedroom,and slipped out early to fish,and thats that.
In the past, I would have sat by the fire and maybe stayed the night, but Iam too stiff to do that,so like I said Precious memories.....
and anything else,sex or such,NEVER has,nevr will be an issue.BUT PLEASE DONT TAKE MY FRIENDs......
sorry, but I need to CONFESS..................

[janis]

Its still happenening, IMO........my brother was in Ga. for 2 days,then was having a 5 hr. layover in Chicago,trying to get back to Oregon.He didnt realize all the spring break traveling was in full swing...we are a little older ,and spring break is a distant,precious memories...
I hope he got better connections..and arrived home safely....see you next time, bro.
Forgive me for getting OT.I need to get something else off my chest....
Rersults, I have a dilemna.....My friend,who was my friend,long before HE married,and me too, is still my friend......He came over to camp out and fish...
this weekend... He told me,in front of witnesses,(one of them,his wife) that he was coming to my place later..
we have a graand ole time,every time......he's like me and doesnt do crowds very well, but we have had some mighty fine times,on the river,etc.
See,since my brothers have scatterred out, I need brother-friends.....
I have always felt safe and protected,when I'm with my friends.
He has NEVER been anything but a brother type friend to me...I trust him with my life,and have before.......
the problem is, the shack hasnt been stayed in, in about 2 yrs. and he saw a mouse,climbing across a chain,leading from the light to the plug in.
Now we are not scared,of boogey men or storms, but the rats gotta go !!!!
As we laughed,and drank,and laughed and drank, that rat turned into three,with each of them toting a litter on their backs !!!!!(across a tight-rope !!)
Needless to say, MY FRIEND spent the night AT MY HOUSE !!!!!!!!
He slept in a spare bedroom,and slipped out early to fish,and thats that.
In the past, I would have sat by the fire and maybe stayed the night, but Iam too stiff to do that,so like I said Precious memories.....
and anything else,sex or such,NEVER has,nevr will be an issue.BUT PLEASE DONT TAKE MY FRIENDs......
sorry, but I need to CONFESS..................

Brainstorm, maybe tomorrow will be a better day....:) :seeya:

[Brainstorm]

ha,ha, it wasnt so bad, funny doesnt cover it.... You'd just have to be here,sometimes....
JMHO

[odette]

<snip> ... so I don't plan to read or post on this forum again. <snip>
JMHO

Yeah, right Maude .. uh huh .. whatever you say Maude. :rolleyes:

BTW, your "theory" backing up HD has got too many holes in it .. waaaaayyy too many holes.

JMHO

[odette]

<snip> You caught me reading about poor JonBenet, but your crude message brought me back to Tara's forum for the last time. <snip>


I rest my case .. "one last time" .. laughable really Maude .. :lol:

JMHO

[TallaTonight]

No results I was just a little overwhelmed by the proclivities on this board when I arrived here. No one had come forward to challenger this in a long time I found this odd. I have tried to get people to look and see some of the inclinations are indeed objectionable. I have no idea what HD's true actions were in this case, as I might add none of us do, whatever it was it was private between He and Tara. When you get him to come on here and spill his heart to you I will stand at attention and join your army of 10 (as in your sig). Until then I will look at all Poi's including AV.
This will have to include all who have posted about me this morning, I am having a quick lunch and more appt. this afternoon, I still have to work sometimes *LOL*.

Results ready to answer why you posted so many untruths in your "Lets just for once call it like it is" Post?

[dixinites]

Results ready to answer why you posted so many untruths in your "Lets just for once call it like it is" Post?

***Spaghetti Western music in the background***

A three-legged dog limps down mainstreet, thru the town and into the saloon.
The music and laughter stop, as he makes his way up to the bar...

"I'm lookin' fer the man that shot my PAW..."

[janis]

Results ready to answer why you posted so many untruths in your "Lets just for once call it like it is" Post?


And just what would those "untruths" be?

[fsbiii]

http://www.talktara.com/Smileys/alive_smiles/nobait.gif

"The sea was angry that day, my friends, like an old man trying to send back soup in a deli..."

http://www.talktara.com/Smileys/alive_smiles/nobait.gif


Results ready to answer why you posted so many untruths in your "Lets just for once call it like it is" Post?

[fsbiii]

Now that was fun-knee! :biggrin:

"I'm back from my appointments, and I'm ready to duel, you scoundrels!!!"

***Spaghetti Western music in the background***

A three-legged dog limps down mainstreet, thru the town and into the saloon.
The music and laughter stop, as he makes his way up to the bar...

"I'm lookin' fer the man that shot my PAW..."

[dixinites]

Now that was fun-knee! :biggrin:

"I'm back from my appointments, and I'm ready to duel, you scoundrels!!!"

Dern tootin', looks like a callout for a showdown to me...

(Where's my jew's harp...)Boooiiiinnnnggg!

[TallaTonight]

Now that was fun-knee! :biggrin:

"I'm back from my appointments, and I'm ready to duel, you scoundrels!!!"


Maybe it is, a shoot out for truth and for Tara. So many untruths go by and the funnies start. Is that a way to keep from posting truth? Maybe you should give them the definition of proclivities, your friends seem to think it's funny, is this another way to avoid truth?

[Brainstorm]

I can't wait...... oh, my,where is she?

[fsbiii]

The humor is actually people's way of coping with your truth, Tally. Don't you like humor? Laughter is the best medicine, after all. A spoonful won't hurt you, I promise. Let me get my prescription pad. Where did I put that dern thang?


Maybe it is, a shoot out for truth and for Tara. So many untruths go by and the funnies start. Is that a way to keep from posting truth? Maybe you should give them the definition of proclivities, your friends seem to think it's funny, is this another way to avoid truth?

[Brainstorm]

Maybe it is, a shoot out for truth and for Tara. So many untruths go by and the funnies start. Is that a way to keep from posting truth? Maybe you should give them the definition of proclivities, your friends seem to think it's funny, is this another way to avoid truth?

Doesnt that mean a tendency to spiral downward, or something? Thats your word Talla. (heave ho)

You have beeen terribly mistaken if you think you are dealing with a bunch of stupid folks !!!!!

I think you will not hold your own, but bring it on, why dont you?
You will receive a rude awakening,before the day is over, IMO
jmho

[Brainstorm]

And just what would those "untruths" be?

See here, Janis, she's been to the GBI office,and has info that she can't take out of their office,but now all our theories are untruths. Where did that come from?She knows things that we don't.
and now she dares to say that Results has posted untruths?
oh my,it sounds like kath,just contrary for the sake of it.....
jmho

[Its just me]

The following are the 12 things Results addressed in her post I could not quote her because it was too long to post. All results post has a #1-12 at the beginning.
All the Bold are my thought and/or opinions. Have not spell checked so overlook mispelled words and bad grammar which are normal in all my posts. IJM

#1 Tara didn't go to church every Sunday and who ever told the lie I don't know.

It was told in the beginning that Tara went to church every Sunday and Tara not being at Church that Sunday is what alarmed FG. FG was fairly clear on the NG interview but the lies continued. But FG did not make one peep about HD neither did AG or anyone. But when it became public knowledge about HD and Tara. AG said they were just close friends since child hood. This is not the case according to information I receive from Hawkinsville from someone who dated Tara and I think it has been established enough to satisfy my mind that Tara and HD were having an affair.

#2 I'm thinking MH exboyfriend just recently broken up but they have been broken up for at least 6 months or over a year that isn't recent....why the lies?

This was the story in the beginning. It took us months to find out different and during this thime I was ready to hang MH. I think the final truth is Tara wanted MH but MH did not want Tara.

#3 SF was on duty and has documented alibi but because AG pointed the finger at MH she pulled an honest Law Enforcement into something she knew nothing about...does she feel any shame for this?

MH was with SF after he left the bar according to more than witnesses. There is no doubt that she knew of this news but she continued on with her famous CB movie which was a joke. AG was in constant contact with CB before this movie. There was a post to AG on the CB board that AG had colapsed CB's email because AG was sending so much material. I read it myself. AG continues her mission to make MH into the killer after she knew he was with SF so yes she brought SF in to this circus.

#4 Lies about the incedent report we have the facts now why lie about that?

Yes there were lies with one that SF told MH about the incident with AV and Tara had signed AV's bond. Tara had filed charges against SF. Just 3 that quickly come to mind.

#5 AG and BW spent 2 hours at Tara's house removing clothing and then all of a sudden try to say some of those clothing were near MH place...another lie...why? Dr Goodwin before he leaves his driveway he is going to prove MH did it if MH didn't kill him first....why...he is suppose to be an unbias investigator with tunnell vision going into Ocilla he ruined his chance to even accept anything that didn't point to MH...why?

I think it is a fact that Dr. G made the statement about if MH did not kill him first. I know that Dr. G questioned one person and because this person would not say what Dr. G wanted to point to MH being the poi Dr. G became disrespectful and may have been asked to leave. I do know he is not welcome back. There was a pair of underwear like the kind that Tara was known to wear found near the Harper farm by the Dr. G and AG searchers. AG was seen in this area a day or two before the underwear was found. I was told the witness's name but I can only say I was told.
#6 BIG COVERUP IN OCILLA for what do you honestly think that all of LE are going down for MH who is not even in LE anymore...why would they do this...friends why heck no nobody in LE covered for MH but why plant the seed of doubt...why?

We have heard this from day one from AG and others. They were having to do their own investigation. Public statement in the news. And they let the first PI go for what ever reason. I have heard but not posting because I am not sure. Why to keep MH as the main POI and attention away from who...HD is the only person they have not peeped one word about.

#7 Dr Goodwin gets a death threat but doesn't have #69 it cost money in his field he can't afford $2.99 I call him out on that one I don't believe the death threat but it sure made it look like someone from Ocilla was going to kill him....get real that call could have been the easiest call to trace have any of you stopped to think that they traced a call from AV's report of a hysterical woman but couldn't trace a death threat to Dr. Goodwin...who buys this bs?

Oh yes this is what the good Doc. said. And not only this but MM was following the Brian thing and emailed Brian how someone may harm him and I don't know what other mess MM said in his email but it was posted on Brian's web page.

#8 AG is mad at MH and points the finger right at him...why? Tara didn't even want to go around AG because she didn't want to hear AG say I told you Tara MH would never marry you and what proves this is FG did not even call AG she called MHu...Why doesn't that tell any of you anything.

AG pointed her finger on day one and asked MH what did he do to her sister.
The GBI had not finished the investigation of the house and may not have even started because I don't think they started until approx 3:00 pm. How did AG even know something had happened to her sister. Tara had left before but it was only for a few days according to my informationl. The information that AG would tell Tara that MH would never marry her is new information and I think it can be backed up. One thing about it if FG called AG she either didn't make contact or AG did nothing. MHu was with FG and MHu came to Ocilla Monday morning early. I think AG went to work and when notified she had to wait for LG to return from some kind of a run. Maybe a jog or an errand.


#9 Who was it that went to Tara's that morning MHu.

Answer above.

#10 Almost 4 months or 5 months later new release HD was at Tara's at 12:15 AM and called FG and FG called the P's but no one did anything at that time if all these people were concerned making these phone calls then why I ask you did no one do anything about it at that time?

This is a fact where you want to believe it or not.


#11 LG and AG go on national TV to say he past one question on the LDT did he have a relationship with Tara he said they said he failed it and he came out swinging which only made everyone go hmmmmm...why?

Yep LG went on National TV and stated he failed the part of the LD test about he and Tara having a relationship. Some where LG made a public statement that he would be pushing up daisies if this was true. I have to wonder about Tara would this also be true for her. He did not speak well of the GBI and later stated he had been cleared but the GBI made a public statement that this was not the case and no one had been ruled out. Not a quote but close enough.

#12 AG/LG has said that GBI has done nothing and that LG has to go and interview the college where Tara was going does that mean GBI is not following leads or is AG/LG lieing again?

Don't know but this is exactly what AG/LG said.

[ipswitch]

IJM,

Very good summary!!

Everything you posted to prove the untruths was what I was going on also (and I'm sure a few others too)

Talla, you can't argue with FACTS.

JMHO

[Its just me]

IJM,

Very good summary!!

Everything you posted to prove the untruths was what I was going on also (and I'm sure a few others too)

Talla, you can't argue with FACTS.

JMHO


Ipswitch Talla will argue with the dang cat sitting in a chair that no one can see. :D

[TallaTonight]

IJM,

Very good summary!!

Everything you posted to prove the untruths was what I was going on also (and I'm sure a few others too)

Talla, you can't argue with FACTS.

JMHO

Post true facts and maybe I will not have to argue. You know all that was not Fact, not then, not now. Gibberish

[One2Snoop]

Ipswitch Talla will argue with the dang cat sitting in a chair that no one can see. :D

Oh my! ROFL I'm borrowing Brainstorms saying - "I don't care who you are, that was funny!" :tongue:

[fsbiii]

spinning, spiral, downward

Post true facts and maybe I will not have to argue. You know all that was not Fact, not then, not now. Gibberish

[One2Snoop]

Post true facts and maybe I will not have to argue. You know all that was not Fact, not then, not now. Gibberish

You're beginning to sound more and more like someone else who used to post here. :read:

[Its just me]

Post true facts and maybe I will not have to argue. You know all that was not Fact, not then, not now. Gibberish

Prove me wrong.

[dixinites]

spinning, spiral, downward

http://i14.tinypic.com/2z56m1u.jpg

YOWZA!!!

[janis]

Post true facts and maybe I will not have to argue. You know all that was not Fact, not then, not now. Gibberish


Then how about separating them for us....especially after IJM went to all that trouble......Thank You IJM

[odette]

Thank you IJM .. great summary of Result's excellent post ..

jmho

[dixinites]

IJM,

Very good summary!!

Everything you posted to prove the untruths was what I was going on also (and I'm sure a few others too)

Talla, you can't argue with FACTS. JMHO

That was a good summary of the FACTS. Well done, IJM. But I thought you knew: "Never enter a battle of wits with an unarmed person" ...She'll never get it. Maybe it's time to introduce her to "Senor Eegnore".

[mooloo]

Excellent work and clearly posted, IJM. Thanks!


The following are the 12 things Results addressed in her post I could not quote her because it was too long to post. All results post has a #1-12 at the beginning.
All the Bold are my thought and/or opinions. Have not spell checked so overlook mispelled words and bad grammar which are normal in all my posts. IJM

#1 Tara didn't go to church every Sunday and who ever told the lie I don't know.

It was told in the beginning that Tara went to church every Sunday and Tara not being at Church that Sunday is what alarmed FG. FG was fairly clear on the NG interview but the lies continued. But FG did not make one peep about HD neither did AG or anyone. But when it became public knowledge about HD and Tara. AG said they were just close friends since child hood. This is not the case according to information I receive from Hawkinsville from someone who dated Tara and I think it has been established enough to satisfy my mind that Tara and HD were having an affair.

#2 I'm thinking MH exboyfriend just recently broken up but they have been broken up for at least 6 months or over a year that isn't recent....why the lies?

This was the story in the beginning. It took us months to find out different and during this thime I was ready to hang MH. I think the final truth is Tara wanted MH but MH did not want Tara.

#3 SF was on duty and has documented alibi but because AG pointed the finger at MH she pulled an honest Law Enforcement into something she knew nothing about...does she feel any shame for this?

MH was with SF after he left the bar according to more than witnesses. There is no doubt that she knew of this news but she continued on with her famous CB movie which was a joke. AG was in constant contact with CB before this movie. There was a post to AG on the CB board that AG had colapsed CB's email because AG was sending so much material. I read it myself. AG continues her mission to make MH into the killer after she knew he was with SF so yes she brought SF in to this circus.

#4 Lies about the incedent report we have the facts now why lie about that?

Yes there were lies with one that SF told MH about the incident with AV and Tara had signed AV's bond. Tara had filed charges against SF. Just 3 that quickly come to mind.

#5 AG and BW spent 2 hours at Tara's house removing clothing and then all of a sudden try to say some of those clothing were near MH place...another lie...why? Dr Goodwin before he leaves his driveway he is going to prove MH did it if MH didn't kill him first....why...he is suppose to be an unbias investigator with tunnell vision going into Ocilla he ruined his chance to even accept anything that didn't point to MH...why?

I think it is a fact that Dr. G made the statement about if MH did not kill him first. I know that Dr. G questioned one person and because this person would not say what Dr. G wanted to point to MH being the poi Dr. G became disrespectful and may have been asked to leave. I do know he is not welcome back. There was a pair of underwear like the kind that Tara was known to wear found near the Harper farm by the Dr. G and AG searchers. AG was seen in this area a day or two before the underwear was found. I was told the witness's name but I can only say I was told.
#6 BIG COVERUP IN OCILLA for what do you honestly think that all of LE are going down for MH who is not even in LE anymore...why would they do this...friends why heck no nobody in LE covered for MH but why plant the seed of doubt...why?

We have heard this from day one from AG and others. They were having to do their own investigation. Public statement in the news. And they let the first PI go for what ever reason. I have heard but not posting because I am not sure. Why to keep MH as the main POI and attention away from who...HD is the only person they have not peeped one word about.

#7 Dr Goodwin gets a death threat but doesn't have #69 it cost money in his field he can't afford $2.99 I call him out on that one I don't believe the death threat but it sure made it look like someone from Ocilla was going to kill him....get real that call could have been the easiest call to trace have any of you stopped to think that they traced a call from AV's report of a hysterical woman but couldn't trace a death threat to Dr. Goodwin...who buys this bs?

Oh yes this is what the good Doc. said. And not only this but MM was following the Brian thing and emailed Brian how someone may harm him and I don't know what other mess MM said in his email but it was posted on Brian's web page.

#8 AG is mad at MH and points the finger right at him...why? Tara didn't even want to go around AG because she didn't want to hear AG say I told you Tara MH would never marry you and what proves this is FG did not even call AG she called MHu...Why doesn't that tell any of you anything.

AG pointed her finger on day one and asked MH what did he do to her sister.
The GBI had not finished the investigation of the house and may not have even started because I don't think they started until approx 3:00 pm. How did AG even know something had happened to her sister. Tara had left before but it was only for a few days according to my informationl. The information that AG would tell Tara that MH would never marry her is new information and I think it can be backed up. One thing about it if FG called AG she either didn't make contact or AG did nothing. MHu was with FG and MHu came to Ocilla Monday morning early. I think AG went to work and when notified she had to wait for LG to return from some kind of a run. Maybe a jog or an errand.


#9 Who was it that went to Tara's that morning MHu.

Answer above.

#10 Almost 4 months or 5 months later new release HD was at Tara's at 12:15 AM and called FG and FG called the P's but no one did anything at that time if all these people were concerned making these phone calls then why I ask you did no one do anything about it at that time?

This is a fact where you want to believe it or not.


#11 LG and AG go on national TV to say he past one question on the LDT did he have a relationship with Tara he said they said he failed it and he came out swinging which only made everyone go hmmmmm...why?

Yep LG went on National TV and stated he failed the part of the LD test about he and Tara having a relationship. Some where LG made a public statement that he would be pushing up daisies if this was true. I have to wonder about Tara would this also be true for her. He did not speak well of the GBI and later stated he had been cleared but the GBI made a public statement that this was not the case and no one had been ruled out. Not a quote but close enough.

#12 AG/LG has said that GBI has done nothing and that LG has to go and interview the college where Tara was going does that mean GBI is not following leads or is AG/LG lieing again?

Don't know but this is exactly what AG/LG said.

[TallaTonight]

[QUOTE=TallaTonight;8831444]

This will be in response to Results post concerning LIES;
She states her post off with lie.
a. Show any of us where it ever stated she attended church every Sunday. It has been noted she went to Hawkinsville with her Mother to church but it does not say every Sunday, goodness with her schedule this would be impossible, then you also have to consider she attended church with MH and his family much of the time.Please show the post that stated she went to chuch EVERY Sunday
b. Light failed? I thought Mr. P stated this was a signal but this was a weekend and Mr. P had been in at the farm, in and out of his Ocilla home.
c. Then Gacountry goes back to the center and learns-----I looked back though old post last night and found where Gacountry told you and other posters that on the road going back to the center they met the MH leading a sheriffs car to the residence. Go back and read that post you have that information wrong if past post is right.
Now we go to you numbered theory:
1. Tara didn’t go to church every Sunday, who ever told the lie I don’t know.
Well I don’t know either, but I am sure you can pull up the post that shows this, I read all night and it is not here.
2. I’m thinking MH exboyfriend just recently broken up but they have been broken up for a least 6 months or over a year that isn’t recent.
After a relationship has long as theirs I would imagine they still cared for each I have noted this was not the first time they had broke up and gotten back together.
3. SF was on duty and has documented alibi but because AG pointed the finger a at MH she pulled an honest Law Enforcement into something she knew nothing an about…. does she feel any shame for that?
Now if I had the misfortune to find my sister was missing I would imagine I would be pointing fingers at everyone, I hope fingers would be all I would have contact with. How did AG get SF pulled from anything? I would imagine this would have been the decision of the OCP, and if you recall this was before the ride on was deemed to be true, I still find that an odd happen so but that’s my question not yours.
4. Lies about the Incident report we have the facts now why lie about them?
What did the incident report prove, that Tara was reported as a victim, that the neighbor called in the incident, that AV was so mad he beat the door until his hand was bleeding, that Tara was frightened for her safety? No the only thing you want to see is HD was there, do you know beyond an assumption why he was there? Do you know if Tara wanted to handle this herself and asked him to stand back unless she called for him? I can’t see your lie theory here.
5. AG and BW spent 2 hours at Tara’s house removing clothing and then all of a sudden try to say some of those clothing were near MH place...another lie...why? Dr Goodwin before he leaves his driveway he is going to prove MH did it if MH didn’t kill him first....why...he is suppose to be an unbias investigator with tunnell vision going into Ocilla he ruined his chance to even accept anything that didn’t point to MH...why?
Do you have an itemized list of the things AG and BW removed from this room? Do you have proof someone put something or planted something in another location? It would be very hard to prove this IMO when we have found no one to even say what clothes were missing when Tara left.
a. Dr. Goodwin and proving things, We do not really know what if anything he did to help this case. It went to GBI headquarters and there it sits if he offered anything. As to the comment about if MH didn’t kill him first, I haven’t a clue on that he appears from pics to be a man that works in the lab more than in the field, maybe he had seen “Deliverance”, I don’t know.

[TallaTonight]

Second part of post


#6 BIG COVERUP IN OCILLA for what do you honestly think that all of LE are going down for MH who is not even in LE anymore...why would they do this...friends why heck no nobody in LE covered for MH but why plant the seed of doubt...why?
No I don’t know what to think about LE, I came to this board with a wonderful feeling for LE and GBI, it was here by mind began to wonder with this boards point blank accusation on Agents. Who planted the seed of doubt, read back over your posts? But you know I have heard stranger thing happening in LE all over this country----The Blue Wall of Silence? Is that the name? Chief Hancock did a fine job that very first day to call in GBI, I comment him.
#7 Dr Goodwin gets a death threat but doesn't have #69 it cost money in his field he can't afford $2.99 I call him out on that one I don't believe the death threat but it sure made it look like someone from Ocilla was going to kill him....get real that call could have been the easiest call to trace have any of you stopped to think that they traced a call from AV's report of a hysterical woman but couldn't trace a death threat to Dr. Goodwin...who buys this bs?
Well this one I can’t comment on, I have the basic phone pkg. also. I seldom use my home phone. As to the threat I cannot say my feeling on that because I never formed any, but he would know the consequences of reporting anything falsely and he did report it IIRC.
#8 AG is mad at MH and points the finger right at him...why? Tara didn't even want to go around AG because she didn't want to hear AG say I told you Tara MH would never marry you and what proves this is FG did not even call AG she called MHu...Why doesn't that tell any of you anything.
AG had just learned her sister was gone without a trace, wow, how would you react? I have seen nothing posted but heresy about that, but you all have posted over and over AG and Tara had no contact with one another so when did she constantly nag Tara about this? As to Faye calling Mhu I would imagine she would feel Tara might have been in contact with her since I see you all posted she never contacted AG.
#9 Who was it that went to Tara's that morning MHu.
And it was stated she and Faye and been looking for Tara even before they made the call to Ocilla Monday, right?
#10 Almost 4 months or 5 months later new release HD was at Tara's at 12:15 AM and called FG and FG called the P's but no one did anything at that time if all these people were concerned making these phone calls then why I ask you did no one do anything about it at that time?
Couldn’t exactly get your meaning in this post but I think you meant from the information Dr. Goodwin posted with the phone records since I think he is the one that actually gave the time of the call. Why would anyone do anything that first night? Her car was there, her lights were out, she was tired and even told Faye she might sleep in. I fault no one for that, to all visible affect the house looked like a tired woman taken a little much needed R&R.
#11 LG and AG go on national TV to say he past one question on the LDT did he have a relationship with Tara he said they said he failed it and he came out swinging which only made everyone go hmmmmm...why?
I did not like this interview but by this time I think they were just tired, we know MH with his lawyer made his points to the television audience maybe they decided to do the same. It did not look to be the type thing a guilty man would do IMO. That question “did you have a relationship” could carry a lot of different elements. Some people have a guilty nature, there are some honest people that fail LDT due to many things besides lying.
#12 AG/LG has said that GBI has done nothing and that LG has to go and interview the college where Tara was going does that mean GBI is not following leads or is AG/LG lieing again?
I think it was reported that LE and GBI were not checking the schools, I don’t know why. If this was true and I have no reason to believe otherwise how would that be lying by AG and LG? I am thankful someone tried to find these students.

This is not an attack or a derailment it is things that are in old post that have not been deleted, I have on neither side. I want Tara found and to heck with all this petty fighting. I commend Results for her dedication but sometimes the lie theory is just so much spin, this Results is more your opinion than fact. It was easy for me to find and I am relatively new.

Bumping with my response to results

[Its just me]

Bumping with my response to results

I read both of you posts. I continue to stand by every word I posted and You called me a liar and I asked you to prove me wrong. Still asking. IJM

[ipswitch]

Talla,

You are NEVER gonna get it are you?

Even *I* who has been put thru the ringer, can't argue with the facts as they have been presented.

I have spoken to many people who knew Tara, and can honestly say that SHE DID NOT attend church EVERY Sunday. I'm only going to post that FACT right now, I don't have time to deal with all of your nonsense.

Talla, you just have to get this thru your thick skull-- you are WRONG.

YOU ONLY WANT TO SEE WHAT YOU WANT TO SEE.

You pick apart EVERY post just to find one little thing to argue, that YOU CAN"T PROVE EITHER.

DEAL WITH IT.

JMHO

[odette]

Today, 07:38 PM
Its just me
Member

<snip> #11 LG and AG go on national TV to say he past one question on the LDT did he have a relationship with Tara he said they said he failed it and he came out swinging which only made everyone go hmmmmm...why?

Yep LG went on National TV and stated he failed the part of the LD test about he and Tara having a relationship. Some where LG made a public statement that he would be pushing up daisies if this was true. I have to wonder about Tara would this also be true for her. He did not speak well of the GBI and later stated he had been cleared but the GBI made a public statement that this was not the case and no one had been ruled out. Not a quote but close enough. <snip>

http://boards.crimelibrary.com/showthread.php?p=8831779#post8831779

"The way Gattis sees it: the very fact that he was alive and able to be asked about his alleged affair is proof that the rumor is baseless. "I wouldn't be alive right now," he said. "If you know my wife, I'd be pushing up daisies somewhere."

http://www.crimelibrary.com/news/original/0106/3001_rumors_tar_tara_brotherinaw2.html

I have always that was a rather odd statement which LG said regarding his wife.

jmho

[TallaTonight]

I read both of you posts. I continue to stand by every word I posted and You called me a liar and I asked you to prove me wrong. Still asking. IJM


Gibberish but a really great post.:confused:

[Results]

Gibberish but a really great post.:confused:

Talla Talla pick on someone your own size. Here I am you are a fool and yours is gibberish. I posted the facts as they are. So, Doc its a stand off what is your next move? Be careful you could end in checkmate! JMHO

[Its just me]

Gibberish but a really great post.:confused:

Your are confused more than you think.

Go back and read it again it might help you understand a few things.

If you're gonna call me a liar at least be man enough to prove me lying.

[fsbiii]

I also thought it was odd to imply his wife would kill him if he was having an affair with Tara...when in the same conversation he admits failing a lie detector test...concerning having an affair with Tara.

Strange, indeed. One of many.

"The way Gattis sees it: the very fact that he was alive and able to be asked about his alleged affair is proof that the rumor is baseless. "I wouldn't be alive right now," he said. "If you know my wife, I'd be pushing up daisies somewhere."

http://www.crimelibrary.com/news/original/0106/3001_rumors_tar_tara_brotherinaw2.html

I have always that was a rather odd statement which LG said regarding his wife.

jmho

[TallaTonight]

Talla,

You are NEVER gonna get it are you?

Even *I* who has been put thru the ringer, can't argue with the facts as they have been presented.

I have spoken to many people who knew Tara, and can honestly say that SHE DID NOT attend church EVERY Sunday. I'm only going to post that FACT right now, I don't have time to deal with all of your nonsense.

This was my response to Results, no where did I say she went to chrch every Sunday
Show any of us where it ever stated she attended church every Sunday. It has been noted she went to Hawkinsville with her Mother to church but it does not say every Sunday, goodness with her schedule this would be impossible
Talla, you just have to get this thru your thick skull-- you are WRONG.

YOU ONLY WANT TO SEE WHAT YOU WANT TO SEE.

You pick apart EVERY post just to find one little thing to argue, that YOU CAN"T PROVE EITHER.

DEAL WITH IT.

JMHO


The rest is gibberish really good post but gibberish

[Results]

Talla Talla pick on someone your own size. Here I am you are a fool and yours is gibberish. I posted the facts as they are. So, Doc its a stand off what is your next move? Be careful you could end in checkmate! JMHO

Talla Talla still picking on everyone but me you did good picking on me when I wasn't here! Here I am! Whats your next move? JMHO

[Its just me]

I also thought it was odd to imply his wife would kill him if he was having an affair with Tara...when in the same conversation he admits failing a lie detector test...concerning having an affair with Tara.

Strange, indeed. One of many.

Strange, indeed. One of many Yep just one of many. Where did the information come from that LG and Tara went on shopping trips together. Was there an incident between LG/Tara and AG in Perry just a few weeks before she disappeared. Just not sure I know the source well enough to post it on the board but MHOO it's the truth.
Many strange things indeed.

[Results]

Strange, indeed. One of many Yep just one of many. Where did the information come from that LG and Tara went on shopping trips together. Was there an incident between LG/Tara and AG in Perry just a few weeks before she disappeared. Just not sure I know the source well enough to post it on the board but MHOO it's the truth.
Many strange things indeed.

Yeap and what was the name of the Motel...No Name Motel! What a shame and oh he failed one question just one...awwwwwwwww wonder why? Maybe that is why HD didn't take one he knew hell if LG couldn't pass one I dang sure can't! Probably scared the crap out of him seeing LG on TV admiting failing that question. I can't imagine the Gattis household that night! Yes sirry! JMHO

[Its just me]

Yeap and what was the name of the Motel...No Name Motel! What a shame and oh he failed one question just one...awwwwwwwww wonder why? Maybe that is why HD didn't take one he knew hell if LG couldn't pass one I dang sure can't! Probably scared the crap out of him seeing LG on TV admiting failing that question. I can't imagine the Gattis household that night! Yes sirry! JMHO

There has been information on no named motels but the incident in Perry 2 weeks before Oct 23 was a lunch or dinner get together for two but # 3 showed up. According to AG's many many many many many remarks starting the same week Tara went missing "Tara and LG were really close." After the LD test I wondered how close. LG stated they were Like Brother and Sister.

[Results]

There has been information on no named motels but the incident in Perry 2 weeks before Oct 23 was a lunch or dinner get together for two but # 3 showed up.

Uh oh! Oh my, my, my!

[odette]

Strange, indeed. One of many Yep just one of many. Where did the information come from that LG and Tara went on shopping trips together. Was there an incident between LG/Tara and AG in Perry just a few weeks before she disappeared. Just not sure I know the source well enough to post it on the board but MHOO it's the truth.
Many strange things indeed.

"Where did the information come from that LG and Tara went on shopping trips together."

LARRY GATTIS: Its been the hardest thing that I've ever had happen to me in my life, I've never lost anything close to me in my family, so this is kind of like a first experience. I can't say we've lost her, I mean it looks that way, but I've sort of adopted Tara as my sister, she was 14 when I met Anita, and we were always really close. She didn't have a dad, and I have a sister but we don't maintain contact, and thats another story but, Tara was always like a sister to me. She lived with us for a while, had holidays at our house. I went to the beauty pageants she was in. We did music together. We had a lot of common interest. I am a musician and I write songs, and I wrote a couple of songs for her. We went through those and recorded some stuff together. I helped her get ready for her pageants. She'd practice singing; I'd open the church up so she could go in and sing. As a guy, I know it’s unusual but I like to shop, so we went shopping together. So, we had a lot of common interest, but definitely not anything like the GBI suggested...

http://larryharriet.bravehost.com/journalism8.html

jmho

[odette]

There has been information on no named motels but the incident in Perry 2 weeks before Oct 23 was a lunch or dinner get together for two but # 3 showed up. According to AG's many many many many many remarks starting the same week Tara went missing "Tara and LG were really close." After the LD test I wondered how close. LG stated they were Like Brother and Sister.

This is another odd statement, made by AG.

"Larry always refers to Tara as his sister, so basically what they've done is accused him of incest."

Transcript: Why Are Tara Grinstead's Relatives Furious With Investigators?

VAN SUSTEREN: All right, Anita, I know that this is terribly disturbing to you. Your thoughts tonight on what's going on with your husband, the investigation, the GBI, let's hear what you have to say.

ANITA GATTIS, SISTER OF TARA GRINSTEAD: Well, it's very disturbing to me that these allegations were made against Larry and my sister. Larry always refers to Tara as his sister, so basically what they've done is accused him of incest.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,182784,00.html

imo

[concernedperson]

This is another odd statement, made by AG.

Transcript: Why Are Tara Grinstead's Relatives Furious With Investigators?

VAN SUSTEREN: All right, Anita, I know that this is terribly disturbing to you. Your thoughts tonight on what's going on with your husband, the investigation, the GBI, let's hear what you have to say.

ANITA GATTIS, SISTER OF TARA GRINSTEAD: Well, it's very disturbing to me that these allegations were made against Larry and my sister. Larry always refers to Tara as his sister, so basically what they've done is accused him of incest.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,182784,00.html

imo

Extremely odd especially in light of the fact that he is not blood related.

[The R]

The following are the 12 things Results



-snip-


#7 Dr Goodwin gets a death threat but doesn't have #69 it cost money in his field he can't afford $2.99 I call him out on that one I don't believe the death threat but it sure made it look like someone from Ocilla was going to kill him....get real that call could have been the easiest call to trace have any of you stopped to think that they traced a call from AV's report of a hysterical woman but couldn't trace a death threat to Dr. Goodwin...who buys this bs?

Oh yes this is what the good Doc. said. And not only this but MM was following the Brian thing and emailed Brian how someone may harm him and I don't know what other mess MM said in his email but it was posted on Brian's web page.

-snip-




[/B]


Sorry IJM for the snip, but I had to add my 2 cents, esp. since I just had my 2 glasses of Pinot Noir, BUT.......


Popcorn was working this case through divine intervention; this was on another site as I'm sure most here know:



169 - October 23, 2006 9:17 am
Name:
Dr. Maurice Godwin
Location:
North Carolina
Comments:
May God Bless Tara. May God bring his healing hand on Tara's family. I'm working for God and Tara.



I don't question anyone's wanting to be sincere when it comes to God, but I wonder why anyone would say he is working for God in a missing person's case??



ALLMO,
R

[fsbiii]

Maybe he has an awesome benefits package?


I don't question anyone's wanting to be sincere when it comes to God, but I wonder why anyone would say he is working for God in a missing person's case??

ALLMO,
R

[The R]

Maybe he has an awesome benefits package?



it's good to know I can always count on you for a different perspective.......

:)


ALLMO,
R

[readmylips]

talla could you take a few moments and review this post that was aimed right for you. maybe you missed it. it was so small i could see how you might miss it. i am still waiting on your response for clarity on the points mentioned. ;)

talla, i have a couple of questions/comments about some of your post. your help in clarification would be appreciated.

your comments are in bold. my comments/questions follow.

then you also have to consider she attended church with MH and his family much of the time. i don't recall reading anywhere that tara went to church much of the time with mh and family. can you share more about that and your source for that information?

I have noted this was not the first time they had broke up and gotten back together. how is that relevant to results comments about them having been broke up for 6 months or more? i too was under the mistaken impression for a short while that tara and mh had just broken up. it was the impression given but it was not in sync with the facts.

Now if I had the misfortune to find my sister was missing I would imagine I would be pointing fingers at everyone, I hope fingers would be all I would have contact with. i disagree with the concept of pointing fingers at everyone if one found themself in the position that a family member was missing. especially within hours of being notified. if i had a family member go missing, in the first hours i would want to assume that there was some logical reason why they were unaccounted for. it's called hope and most people have hope. even when that hope is unreasonable. the normal human mind is programmed to lean as far away from the worst outcome as possible in a situation such as this. that is why you will see family members on tv begging for a safe return or begging a missing family member to come home even when it is clear that something terrible has happened. interestingly enough, i don't think we ever saw that "normal" reaction from ag. in this particular case, if my sister were having emotional problems as we assume she was, i would be of the mindset that she had taken off for the weekend with someone to get away from her troubles. there was still no clear concept of what had happened or where she may be. there appeared to be no reason for the reaction ag had. there is an exception to every rule and maybe ag is that exception. i think her reactions were off from what most would do.

How did AG get SF pulled from anything? I would imagine this would have been the decision of the OCP, and if you recall this was before the ride on was deemed to be true, I still find that an odd happen so but that’s my question not yours. that underlined statement confuses me. are you saying that all information should be considered false until proven true? sort of like guilty until proven innocent? i don't even know that ag was aware of mh's whereabouts when she started her crusade to crucify him. maybe so, maybe no. any way you look at it, it was a strange reaction and it had repercussions toward sf because information was offered that was simply not true. as we know it now.

What did the incident report prove, that Tara was reported as a victim. oh there's that victim thing again. anytime the police are contacted and someone is in an altercation, the more passive in the incident will be deemed the victim. just because the police report uses the term victim it does not certify the status. it is common wording to describe the persons involved in an incident and does not take in to account all of the circumstances. she may have been a victim of av's anger that day but he may well have been a victim of her behaviors too. that word, victim, is misused by you often imo.

As to the comment about if MH didn’t kill him first, I haven’t a clue on that he appears from pics to be a man that works in the lab more than in the field, maybe he had seen “Deliverance”, I don’t know. i can tell you one hundred percent absolutely positively that godwin spoke those words. or rather typed them. maybe he is a fan of deliverance. whatever his excuse it was dramatic, inappropriate and unprofessional. he lost much credibility with that careless comment.

[Its just me]

Thanks to every one who have provided links and information on this subject.
We may be considered a bunch of buzzards but at least we know where to find our prey.
(in this case prey = information)

[janis]

(snipped )#9 Who was it that went to Tara's that morning MHu.
And it was stated she and Faye and been looking for Tara even before they made the call to Ocilla Monday, right?

Who called Ocilla, Monday? Faye and MHu? I thought the school called them....

[Its just me]

(snipped )#9 Who was it that went to Tara's that morning MHu.
And it was stated she and Faye and been looking for Tara even before they made the call to Ocilla Monday, right?

Who called Ocilla, Monday? Faye and MHu? I thought the school called them....

I going only on memory but I think in the NG interview that MHu stated she and FG had been looking for Tara and they got a call saying the police were on the way to Tara's. It was not said who the call came from. MHu then went to Ocilla because she speaks of going in the house to see if the shoes Tara normally wore were in their ordinary place.

BTW I was told that these shoes were inside Tara's house.

[odette]

I going only on memory but I think in the NG interview that MHu stated she and FG had been looking for Tara and they got a call saying the police were on the way to Tara's. It was not said who the call came from. MHu then went to Ocilla because she speaks of going in the house to see if the shoes Tara normally wore were in their ordinary place.

BTW I was told that these shoes were inside Tara's house.

NANCY GRACE ~ CNN
GRACE: Excuse me, Monday morning. What did you see?

HULETT: I immediately went into the house...

GRACE: Well, why did you go there?

HULETT: I had been -- we had been looking for her, her mother an I had. And then so I went down there that morning, knowing that the police were on their way, and I went in. The police were outside. Well, excuse me...

GRACE: How did you get in?

HULETT: ... the detective was outside by her car. Her door was unlocked.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0601/13/ng.01.html

[Its just me]

Now, who was it who referred to us as buzzards .. hmmm ? .. oh, I know .. it was "maude". A bit rich I thought, coming from "maude", considering she said that she doesn't like being called names.
jmho


Yep odette it was Maude. Kind of funny coming from Maude since she does not like to be called names. I guess she didn't learn the golden rule but since Maude posted she was working in 1961 she is some older than me so she may be getting some memory loss. It kind of sneaks up on ya. One of the best things about getting old is we are still here. :)

All my post are my opinion only while some are strong opinions some are not so strong. IJM

[Its just me]

NANCY GRACE ~ CNN
GRACE: Excuse me, Monday morning. What did you see?

HULETT: I immediately went into the house...

GRACE: Well, why did you go there?

HULETT: I had been -- we had been looking for her, her mother an I had. And then so I went down there that morning, knowing that the police were on their way, and I went in. The police were outside. Well, excuse me...

GRACE: How did you get in?

HULETT: ... the detective was outside by her car. Her door was unlocked.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0601/13/ng.01.html

Odette you are a jewel....This transcript does not say who called who just MHu knew the police were on their way. Thanks a bunch. IJM

[odette]

Odette you are a jewel....This transcript does not say who called who just MHu knew the police were on their way. Thanks a bunch. IJM

You are very welcome IJM .. :)

[Its just me]

NANCY GRACE ~ CNN
GRACE: Excuse me, Monday morning. What did you see?

HULETT: I immediately went into the house...

GRACE: Well, why did you go there?

HULETT: I had been -- we had been looking for her, her mother an I had. And then so I went down there that morning, knowing that the police were on their way, and I went in. The police were outside. Well, excuse me...

GRACE: How did you get in?

HULETT: ... the detective was outside by her car. Her door was unlocked.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0601/13/ng.01.html

the detective was outside by her car.
I hate to read anything about Tara's car because this car business has aways hit a bad nerve with me. The car was part of the investigation by the GBI Monday afternoon into Tuesday morning. The car was left unsecured and was taken to the car wash on Friday. AG wanted more test done on the car later on (don't know if AG had any test done) and then the GBI takes the car into their custody months into the investigation. I can forget being smart enough to understand what appears as a stupid pile of mess on everyone's part. JMHOO but one of the very strong ones. IJM

[TallaTonight]

To save space and effort this post is for all whom have called me out. I firmly stand by my answers to Results, I will not back down, she has posted her spin on things and some are not truthful, My information has came from reading and reading all threads and The Archives plus I have received many PMs people that refuse to post here due to insult and injury from the LHG, some of these pms state they were here from the beginning and are still actively working for Tara.

1. I stand firmly by the fact that Tara did not go to church every Sunday. I have been informed that "described Tara as a “very strong Christian woman”. I have never seen it reported that Tara went to church every Sunday. Tara and her mother are members of the Hawkinsville First Baptist Church.
Another pm " Tara would attend church with MH and his family, she enjoyed church and attended when time allowed."

2. From another pm "I was with GaCountry on that search. We were assigned an area across the road from the Redman property. We searched along a creek bed that was at a lower elevation than Redman property. The Redman property was not visible to us from where we were searching. We did not learn of the Sheriff’s actions until we returned to the Center.There is also an entire section a thread of rings ga. muders etc.
3.The light:
The nightlight was a weeknight signal as explained by Mr. Portier on Nancy Grace’s interview:
PORTIER: Nancy, we couldn`t see her car from our house. It was in the carport. But her signal to us that she was home safely was her bedroom light. There`s a little lamp light by her bedside table. She would turn it on, and that was kind of a signal to my wife that she was home and safe. My wife would often go there several times a night if she was -- she went to school on Monday night in Tifton, on Tuesday night in Waycross, and she`d be getting in 9:00, 9:30, and my wife would go to that window several times until she saw that light and knew that Tara was home safely.
PORTIER: Nancy, it never did come on that night, which wasn`t unusual. On the weekends, she had a lot of studying to do. She had her papers to grade for the classes that she taught at the high school. So not seeing the light was nothing unusual on the weekend.
4. In regard to Tara and MH and when their breakup happened from an email
"Are they telling us that MH did not return earlier than expected from his overseas job? How do they know when MH told Tara he was returning to Ocilla? Is there a link to this? Another email "From the Greta interview:
HARPER: October 2004.
VAN SUSTEREN: What were the circumstances surrounding that?
HARPER: She told me she felt like it was time for her to move on.
VAN SUSTEREN: And you're getting dumped, essentially?

HARPER: More or less.
VAN SUSTEREN: Were you upset by that at all?
HARPER: At first. We continued to remain friends, but I felt a little rejected at first. But I picked — you know, brushed my shoulders off, went on and started dating other people.
VAN SUSTEREN: Did she say why in October of 2004 she wanted to call it quits to your relationship?
HARPER: I think that she was looking more toward marriage.
VAN SUSTEREN: And you're definitely not into the marriage.
HARPER: Not at this time.
VAN SUSTEREN: OK. So after, let's say, October 2004 until September 2005, when you're in the area — because I know that you travel for business — did you see her often?
HARPER: Yes.
VAN SUSTEREN: How often did you see her?
HARPER: We remained friends. Any time I was home from business, you know, we would see each other. This past summer, we even went to a movie together as friends.

Why did he fail to mention that they took a vacation to Florida together in August of 2005? Sorry I do not have a link but your source will confirm this if you ask them.

5.From the same email about SF:
"I have heard that SF was part of MH’s alibi. If there is documentation for SF’s movements during the period he was with MH then what is there to cover-up? I am curious about when MH arrived at the Whitehorse, who saw him at the Whitehorse, when did he leave the Whitehorse, when did he arrive at the Ocilla Police Department, when did he leave the Police Department and when did he arrive home? Seamus‘s article “Marcus Harpers Activities Were Well Documented Before Tara Grinstead Vanished” leaves these questions unanswered in my mind."
another pm "How did Anita know about SF? Who told her? Could they have given Anita their version of SF’s role in the Vicker’s incident? When did SF’s documented alibi become published? Seamus published part of the alibi of MH’s and SF’s in the May 2006 article. Has Anita made any accusations since then?"
6. The AV report:
Who is lying about the Incident Report? There are 22 pages of discussion about it so there are questions in some minds about what happened and why. There were different interpretations of what was in it before it was released to Crime Library. There was speculation about what had happened but who lied? Wouldn’t someone have had to know the truth about the incident before they could lie about the incident? So how did they know what to lie about if they were not there or had not seen the report?
7. The house and cloths taken: "If you say AG and BW spent 2 hours removing things from Tara’s house then I have no reason not to believe you. However if you have a source that says AG and BW planted evidence then you should report that source to the OPD or the GBI. The clothing that was found by searchers was turned over to the GBI. Anything identified as possible evidence on a search has been turned over to the GBI with a written statement by the person who found the article. I do not believe volunteers would give a false statement to the GBI. Furthermore I think the GBI Crime Lab can distinguish a garment that has been outdoors for 6 months from one that has not. Is there a link to the statement made by Dr. Godwin? Did he make this statement to the press? Or could he have made it in jest in a private conversation? Where is the link? Dr. Godwin has submitted any information he has collected to the GBI. He has looked at many theories and possibilities.
This and many more things that I found and receive daily lets me know something is not right and a lot is not truthful.
Oh I saw the "something smells like chicken ----, post from last night, I always liked chicken stew let me know when its ready.

[PNut]

No, there aren't any questions about what happened. The police report is pretty clear on WHAT happened.

NO ONE is lying about the Incident Report.


The Report worries you, for the same reason many of us DID come to QUESTION the parts of the Report that make HD look like a chicken *****. The Report did bring up the questions of why he didn't step up and protect Tara. How much LE knew about HD being there, but didn't report it. That's what 22 pages is comprised of. HD's questionable behaviour that day.

*snip*
6. The AV report:
Who is lying about the Incident Report? There are 22 pages of discussion about it so there are questions in some minds about what happened and why. There were different interpretations of what was in it before it was released to Crime Library. There was speculation about what had happened but who lied? Wouldn’t someone have had to know the truth about the incident before they could lie about the incident? So how did they know what to lie about if they were not there or had not seen the report?

[fsbiii]

I'm confused about this multitude of pm's and emails you supposedly receive from frightened people... how ridiculous is that? Do they want you, being "new" and all, to relay the information you just did? Which I think, according to FW, is improper to post these PM's and emails from the cowards anyway... but it's nice to see them in print. I'm still confused about your purpose with this (and the way you purposefully avoid RML's questions all the time)... :)

[fsbiii]

This fragmented fiction from the cowardly pm and/or email sent to Tally really brought a laugh with it...

Dr. Godwin has submitted any information he has collected to the GBI. He has looked at many theories and possibilities.

Seems like Popcorn used to send people PM's to tell them what Dr. Godwin was doing...from the third person perspective, of course. How would the author of this email or pm know what theories or possibilities Dr. Godwin has looked at, unless it's coming from Dr. Godwin himself? Hmmmm. Something to think about, for sure. The addition of "He has looked at many theories and possibilities" might have been a little too much.... do we have a winner here?

[TallaTonight]

This fragmented fiction from the cowardly pm and/or email sent to Tally really brought a laugh with it...



Seems like Popcorn used to send people PM's to tell them what Dr. Godwin was doing...from the third person perspective, of course. How would the author of this email or pm know what theories or possibilities Dr. Godwin has looked at, unless it's coming from Dr. Godwin himself? Hmmmm. Something to think about, for sure. The addition of "He has looked at many theories and possibilities" might have been a little too much.... do we have a winner here?

No fsbiii, I have not heard from Popcorn as you called him. I have tried to contact him for his prospective but have not heard from him. These were no "cowardly" pms just people who have had enough of the injury, I found nothing funny about these pms or emails, really they were rather sad. Makes me even more sure that this is a 'private' forum for a select group. I stand by all I have posted as the truth, my 'sources' have been very forthright and have outstanding theories and even 'facts'. Why is it so hard to discuss anything that is not written in stone by a select few? I have been told much more than I will post here, some heresay some out and out facts from people that were there, and some documented things that are out there for everyone to see if they would just read. Some people have formed their opinions by what the LHG has told them, I have found searchers and people that were there to tell an entirely different story, and they had the facts to back them up. I have spent more hours on this case than I can even count and people you need to wake up and read back because something is not right with this spin we are being feed.

[fsbiii]

This song & dance isn't original, Tally. In fact, it's a poor remix at best. No one will dance. The conspiracy of us vs. them doesn't work. You have shown your hand in abundance lately. The new "deference" to the "searchers" and their pm's and emails really sealed it for me. All this bullsh*t about secret files and folders, pm's, emails, people being afraid, etc. -- it's SO PLAYED OUT and RIDICULOUS. Take that crap to Brian's Prediction and see if he'll print it there. You've proven what your purpose is here. It's not for finding truth or finding Tara - it's gamesmanship and "us vs. them" propaganda.

It's sick and sad, and we are unfortunately so very used to it. Just a different flavor for the spring, I guess. What "new" poster will run this flag up the pole next? We'll just have to wait and see.

No fsbiii, I have not heard from Popcorn as you called him. I have tried to contact him for his prospective but have not heard from him. These were no "cowardly" pms just people who have had enough of the injury, I found nothing funny about these pms or emails, really they were rather sad. Makes me even more sure that this is a 'private' forum for a select group. I stand by all I have posted as the truth, my 'sources' have been very forthright and have outstanding theories and even 'facts'. Why is it so hard to discuss anything that is not written in stone by a select few? I have been told much more than I will post here, some heresay some out and out facts from people that were there, and some documented things that are out there for everyone to see if they would just read. Some people have formed their opinions by what the LHG has told them, I have found searchers and people that were there to tell an entirely different story, and they had the facts to back them up. I have spent more hours on this case than I can even count and people you need to wake up and read back because something is not right with this spin we are being feed.

[PNut]

Yes, people, please DO "read back" and see what "is not right" - and when you do that, you'll see that there is a handful of posters, that have been here since day ONE - Talla you ain't one of 'em.

You will also see that there are MANY MANY different nics on Tara's board over the past 1+ year. They come and they go. Never to hang around more than a month usually, and if one were to track it, their "birth" and "deaths" coincide very nicely. And they have been banned and had thier posts deleted, due to the same tactics Tally is now using.

Yes, PLEASE do read back, I encourage it. Because the truth is there - and it's not being FEED.

*SNIP* I have spent more hours on this case than I can even count and people you need to wake up and read back because something is not right with this spin we are being feed.

[readmylips]

I'm confused about this multitude of pm's and emails you supposedly receive from frightened people... how ridiculous is that? Do they want you, being "new" and all, to relay the information you just did? Which I think, according to FW, is improper to post these PM's and emails from the cowards anyway... but it's nice to see them in print. I'm still confused about your purpose with this (and the way you purposefully avoid RML's questions all the time)... :)

i have composed and deleted a half dozen responses to talla's post and when i sat back and watched to see what the other posters would provide i found myself not needing to say half of what came to mind. interesting that you noticed the way talla and a few others ignore most of my posts and questions. i too have noticed that and found it interesting.

what i do have to say to talla is this: i have been involved in search operations also and have a totally different perspective than the sources you choose to quote. i won't get into a pissing contest over what is an accurate perception and what is delusional paranoia or a love for conspiracy theories and dramatics. long ago i chose not to drink the koolaid and that led to some strife amongst those who chose to partake. to each his/her own. i have no hard feelings and i lose no sleep over the fact that my opinions differ from some others. you can drink the koolaid if you want to. it is your choice to make.

you will not find all in agreement on any discussion such as this. sensationalizing it into a conspiracy is just ridiculous in my opinion. but there again, to each his/her own. you yourself have turned this into a discussion about sides and camps and spin. shouldn't the discussion be about tara and her disappearance? differing opinions are healthy to a constructive discussion. why do you seek to squash differing opinions as if they are the plague? that mindset is not appropriate for this outlet imo.

if you want to be amongst a group of people who are all in agreement with you then see if you can get an invite to the bunkhouse. i am sure you will feel quite cozy there. maybe you already have. who knows. as for me, i will choose to think for myself and if that makes me unpopular amongst you and yours, then so be it. no hard feelings from me.

[readmylips]

NANCY GRACE ~ CNN
GRACE: Excuse me, Monday morning. What did you see?

HULETT: I immediately went into the house...

GRACE: Well, why did you go there?

HULETT: I had been -- we had been looking for her, her mother an I had. And then so I went down there that morning, knowing that the police were on their way, and I went in. The police were outside. Well, excuse me...

GRACE: How did you get in?

HULETT: ... the detective was outside by her car. Her door was unlocked.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0601/13/ng.01.html

i have always wondered how the interaction between fg and mhu played out. when did fg contact mhu. where were they looking for tara. when did mhu start her drive down to ocilla. i always got the impression that she was enroute before the call came that said the police were at the house but i could be mistaken.

did fg wake up monday morning and become alarmed after the midnight call from hd? is that when she called mhu or did she call her in the middle of the night.

if it were my child and someone called me at midnight concerned about them i dont think i could go back to sleep without locating them. i wonder if she went back to sleep and awoke early to start the hunt for tara. it had to have been very early for mhu to get to ocilla at the hour she did. she would have had to make arrangements at her school for someone to cover her class and that takes time.

a lot of unanswered questions that in the end could mean nothing anyway.

[odette]

<snip> people you need to wake up and read back because something is not right with this spin we are being feed <snip>.

I did wake up .. quite a while ago .. trust me on that one talla ..

I realized, slowly but surely, that the spin we were being fed, from the very first day, was definately not right.

The smoke is clearing and I see a very different picture emerging from the one we were forced to view by the spin doctors at the beginning.

jmho

[Its just me]

To save space and effort this post is for all whom have called me out. I firmly stand by my answers to Results, I will not back down, she has posted her spin on things and some are not truthful, My information has came from reading and reading all threads and The Archives plus I have received many PMs people that refuse to post here due to insult and injury from the LHG, some of these pms state they were here from the beginning and are still actively working for Tara.

1. I stand firmly by the fact that Tara did not go to church every Sunday. I have been informed that "described Tara as a “very strong Christian woman”. I have never seen it reported that Tara went to church every Sunday. Tara and her mother are members of the Hawkinsville First Baptist Church.
Another pm " Tara would attend church with MH and his family, she enjoyed church and attended when time allowed."

2. From another pm "I was with GaCountry on that search. We were assigned an area across the road from the Redman property. We searched along a creek bed that was at a lower elevation than Redman property. The Redman property was not visible to us from where we were searching. We did not learn of the Sheriff’s actions until we returned to the Center.There is also an entire section a thread of rings ga. muders etc.
3.The light:
The nightlight was a weeknight signal as explained by Mr. Portier on Nancy Grace’s interview:
PORTIER: Nancy, we couldn`t see her car from our house. It was in the carport. But her signal to us that she was home safely was her bedroom light. There`s a little lamp light by her bedside table. She would turn it on, and that was kind of a signal to my wife that she was home and safe. My wife would often go there several times a night if she was -- she went to school on Monday night in Tifton, on Tuesday night in Waycross, and she`d be getting in 9:00, 9:30, and my wife would go to that window several times until she saw that light and knew that Tara was home safely.
PORTIER: Nancy, it never did come on that night, which wasn`t unusual. On the weekends, she had a lot of studying to do. She had her papers to grade for the classes that she taught at the high school. So not seeing the light was nothing unusual on the weekend.
4. In regard to Tara and MH and when their breakup happened from an email
"Are they telling us that MH did not return earlier than expected from his overseas job? How do they know when MH told Tara he was returning to Ocilla? Is there a link to this? Another email "From the Greta interview:
HARPER: October 2004.
VAN SUSTEREN: What were the circumstances surrounding that?
HARPER: She told me she felt like it was time for her to move on.
VAN SUSTEREN: And you're getting dumped, essentially?

HARPER: More or less.
VAN SUSTEREN: Were you upset by that at all?
HARPER: At first. We continued to remain friends, but I felt a little rejected at first. But I picked — you know, brushed my shoulders off, went on and started dating other people.
VAN SUSTEREN: Did she say why in October of 2004 she wanted to call it quits to your relationship?
HARPER: I think that she was looking more toward marriage.
VAN SUSTEREN: And you're definitely not into the marriage.
HARPER: Not at this time.
VAN SUSTEREN: OK. So after, let's say, October 2004 until September 2005, when you're in the area — because I know that you travel for business — did you see her often?
HARPER: Yes.
VAN SUSTEREN: How often did you see her?
HARPER: We remained friends. Any time I was home from business, you know, we would see each other. This past summer, we even went to a movie together as friends.

Why did he fail to mention that they took a vacation to Florida together in August of 2005? Sorry I do not have a link but your source will confirm this if you ask them.

5.From the same email about SF:
"I have heard that SF was part of MH’s alibi. If there is documentation for SF’s movements during the period he was with MH then what is there to cover-up? I am curious about when MH arrived at the Whitehorse, who saw him at the Whitehorse, when did he leave the Whitehorse, when did he arrive at the Ocilla Police Department, when did he leave the Police Department and when did he arrive home? Seamus‘s article “Marcus Harpers Activities Were Well Documented Before Tara Grinstead Vanished” leaves these questions unanswered in my mind."
another pm "How did Anita know about SF? Who told her? Could they have given Anita their version of SF’s role in the Vicker’s incident? When did SF’s documented alibi become published? Seamus published part of the alibi of MH’s and SF’s in the May 2006 article. Has Anita made any accusations since then?"
6. The AV report:
Who is lying about the Incident Report? There are 22 pages of discussion about it so there are questions in some minds about what happened and why. There were different interpretations of what was in it before it was released to Crime Library. There was speculation about what had happened but who lied? Wouldn’t someone have had to know the truth about the incident before they could lie about the incident? So how did they know what to lie about if they were not there or had not seen the report?
7. The house and cloths taken: "If you say AG and BW spent 2 hours removing things from Tara’s house then I have no reason not to believe you. However if you have a source that says AG and BW planted evidence then you should report that source to the OPD or the GBI. The clothing that was found by searchers was turned over to the GBI. Anything identified as possible evidence on a search has been turned over to the GBI with a written statement by the person who found the article. I do not believe volunteers would give a false statement to the GBI. Furthermore I think the GBI Crime Lab can distinguish a garment that has been outdoors for 6 months from one that has not. Is there a link to the statement made by Dr. Godwin? Did he make this statement to the press? Or could he have made it in jest in a private conversation? Where is the link? Dr. Godwin has submitted any information he has collected to the GBI. He has looked at many theories and possibilities.
This and many more things that I found and receive daily lets me know something is not right and a lot is not truthful.
Oh I saw the "something smells like chicken ----, post from last night, I always liked chicken stew let me know when its ready.

My reply is in my next post. too long to post together.

[Its just me]

A email from someone searching with Ga.country. OK . Did they post on the cb board also. Have they ever posted hear and anthing happened to make them scared. Why have the not voice their theories on the cb board or other boards that is not threatening. Is this person MM if it is he is scared of driving to Ocilla so it would not be surprising what this group might claim they are scared of. As a matter of fact the Georgia County group have posted some threatening post on the cb board. Running over someone with a hummer and MM going to the first graduation to take care of things if someone did not act right. Just to name a few. You can follow this group if you want to but if you think the so called LHG is bad just get tangled up with some of this bunch. Be very careful who you put your trust and it looks like they are flocking to you like bees after honey. Dont' let them use you if you are a sincer poster and searching for the truth some have been known to be very cunning.
Dont worry about an invitation from me for some chicken soup...I just as soon deal with one of these South Georgia rattle snakes.
When you visit the GBI again ask them to tell what the test results were on the underwear. Had it been there months or had it been there a few days. I would like to know the answer. I have no doubt that searchers found the underwear but would like to know the GBI's test results. I think all information is reported to the LE and what is not reported trust me Chief Hancock reads it here on ctv.
Dr. G may have looked at many theories but it did not follow up on the black truck that Tara was seen getting out of in Fitzgerald. This I know with no doubt. There is print somewhere where underwear was found on or near Green Road and if someone can find it I'm thinking Dr. G made the statement. BTW no one said AG planted underwear but only that she was seen on Green Road just a few days before the underwear was found. I did not see AG but a person that can be named that did.
The lies about the incident report was not what was in the report for my concern but the fact that it was told Tara bailed him out and Tara took out charges because SF told MH about this incident and we now know SF DID NOT tell MH. Just a bunch of hog wash.

When did the entertainment movie Haunted Evidence air? Was this before or after the alibi was printed.

I along with others think MH is a possible poi. This has been discussed for months in the beginning and we all still have open minds. But we have moved on to other issues with HD being one and why is this that it upsets so many people. My list of p'soi are HD, Av MH, LG, AG and the unknown and Tara is alive but Tara is alive is just a small hope after this long.

I don't know where I read it and it could have been the Ocilla Star but there was a time frame given to your questions. When he got to the White horse and who he was with. The time he left the WH and the time he arrived in Ocilla and there is documentation of call/calls that MH and SF investigated and there are witnesses that said MH was with SF during this time. I think MH states he left SF and went home I'm thinking to his mom's house and went to his Dad's around 10:30 on Saturday. If Marcus harmed Tara maybe your GBI friends can find the loophole in his alibi. And if you find one report it on your next visit to the GBI. I personally can see a possiblity but if I have to choose a poi I will go for the one who has kept his mouth shut and possibly lied about the last time he saw Tara (HD) instead of the one who has provided the amount of information as MH.

Just how do you know who our source is and if our source knows anything about a vacation. I have heard this but have not been able to confirm it as truth or not. Did a group go on a search down in Florida... did you find any evidence of a vacation. Please share because I am interested in any truth.

Just my humble opinion. I also stand by what I post even though you say I am lying. IJM