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02-18-2006, 11:17 PM
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This is a copy of a guestbook entry from November. This was discussed on the Find Tara message board:


Date: 11/8/2005, 3:26 am, EST
Name: QMIS
Location: CHINA
Number: 895


I AM So SORY TO HEAR ABOUT THIS I HAD IT HAPEN TO ME TOO, JUST SO YOU ALL KNOW I AM NOT A CHINA PERSON I AM NOW LIVEING IN CHINA I AM FROM USA OR.PS I HOPE YOU FIND HER

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Luckyswife posted the following:
Re: If we're looking at all possibilites...?
« Reply #1 on Nov 20, 2005, 5:23pm »

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I found several things about this entry to be "strange" I'll explain...

1. Q-mis (Tara was referred to by her students as Ms. Grinstead, I'm not sure what the Q might mean.

2. The first sentence is an apology ...not so unusual, but this one is followed by "I had "it" happen to me too" . ( She doesn't elaborate?).

3. Several misspelled words. (Common words like sorry, happen, living ) yet this person was smart enough to use the correct too in her sentence. Not to mention using all caps (shouting to get someones attention..maybe?) throughout , but manages to type China correctly.

4. She states that she is NOW living in China , but she is not a "China person" (who would write something like that to someone you don't even know, unless you want them to know who you are and where you are without telling everyone! IMO

5. Last sentence is " I used to live in the U.S OR .P.S I hope you find her. (I think its meant to look like she's referring to Oregon, but really if you read between the lines, it says I used to live in the U.S or P.S I hope you find her. I think she is making a connection between finding her and "I used to live in the U.S. (IMO)

6. Last but not least...its interesting that she gives her whereabouts (Now living in China) after saying.."Just so you ALL know" . (Is she referring to family and friends maybe?)

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Luckyswife added this:

Hi- I just found this.....I thought you might find it interesting as well...QMIS is abbr. for a school in China that teaches international children (in English also). Tara is a teacher, right? I pray that someone will really look into this, If anything, just to let the family know she's OK......even if she did leave on her own.

Here's the link....
QMIS MTI International School of Qingdao, China
... Qingdao MTI International School (QMIS) is a foreign-run international school
... QMIS offers a full educational program from pre-kindergarten through ...www.qmischina.com/ End post from luckyswife

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I'd like to add:

The last sentence of the guestbook entry includes this:

I AM FROM USA OR.

After seeing that Luckyswife suspected a reference to OREGON, the state: I would like to add the fact that the registered sex offender who lived in Tara's neighborhood and then MOVED out was convicted of his crime in the state of OREGON!

Luckyswife speculated the use of the letters [OR] could be meant to make it look like the state the person is from, but since it was speaking of clues being given, perhaps it was meant to be read as a bigger clue as to where another person is from?
OR= Oregon= the state the registered sex offender was convicted in back in 1995 before moving to Ocilla. ( not sure what year he moved all the way across the country to small town Ocilla?)
Convicted of sex abuse III in Oregon in 1995.
Royce Franklin Martin=registered sex offender now living at 245 Clark Howell Road in Ocilla, GA, previously of 710 S. Alder St. Ocilla.

If we theorized that Tara was taken against her will, we could speculate (not likely, but purely speculation)this was from Tara in some cryptic form. It would mean her captor allowed her to type a message on her own missing persons board? Stranger things have happened. In order to be able to be allowed to send it, maybe (in speculation only) she had to play dumb and make it look like she was sending a well wish, but got in a few clues?

In another angle, we could also speculate that perhaps somebody living in China (or wherever) once lived in OR (Oregon) and this happened to them there??? If so, by whom? And what made them look at Tara's guest book? Could this person have been taken by the same person who may have Tara? If so, this means the captor doesn't want to kill, but to keep for some reason. If this theory were true, it's a good sign that the person this happened to is alive and well enough to post, meaning if the same person has Tara, she, too, has a chance to get away.

In yet another angle , if Tara left on her own, is she letting her friends and family know her whereabouts? Perhaps after looking at missing persons websites, she knew in advance that a guestbook would be set up for kind prayers and wishes for the family and took the opportunity to communicate?
If so, it would mean the family had to know of her plans, otherwise they would just assume this was from a person in China? If they knew in advance what to look for, it would mean something to them, but mean nothing to any of us. ( I do not think this is the case, simply an avenue explored.)

Since this was from November, 2005, does anyone know anything more regarding this post?

I know the regular ones who will bash me for the 'out there' speculations, but it's not anything different than what LE is doing to try to find Tara. I hope those of you who are truly here with an open mind can see how deeply many of us are thinking of this case and trying to find an answer. I'd like to say in advance that unless you know exactly where Tara is or what has happened to her, please don't post saying this is far-fetched or impossible. Until Tara is found, or unless you know where she is, nobody knows the answers and my post is speculating about possibilites.
I thought it was important to look at this again, just in case there is one little thing that we should be picking up on.

Maybe it's just what it is....... a post from a china person?
Nothing more to be read into it..............But who calls themselves a china person? If you are from the USA, you are an American living in China, right?

The only time I've ever said I'm not a china person was when speaking about a wedding and NOT needing any china. I said to friends, "I'm getting married, but don't buy me china.
I'm not a china person."

shelock
02-19-2006, 01:13 PM
Ref the staff photo from their website; appears they have several Americans etc on their staff with a bunch of babies. I'd like to see the 2006 photo of their staff. Have you checked the missing persons in Oregon yet and teachers missing in the US?

Babes
02-19-2006, 05:19 PM
webmaster of the site can check the originating ip address of the post

Luckys_Wife
02-20-2006, 03:57 AM
I posted this guestbook entry very early on in the investigation. It was also sent to the proper LE Persons in charge of Taras case at that time. This was done very early on in the investigation, So Im sure we would have heard something if anything had come of this. My opinion has since changed about what I believe happen to Tara, and I don't think she left on her own, IMO.

NancynNC
02-20-2006, 11:10 AM
I read an article last night that Tara had an exchange student from China. I will try to find it.

BevAnn
03-20-2006, 05:22 PM
Just curious if anything had ever come of this odd speculation??

It is a rather interesting post by someone....if not cryptic message or clue, wonder exactly who sent it, and what they meant when they said it had happened to them too??

Bev Ann

concernedperson
01-15-2007, 09:26 PM
Good grief! We don't have Tara's body nor do we have a POI in jail but we have moved past most of this stuff. There is nothing to indicate Tara was abducted to particpate in child abductions or sex slave trade or headed off to China to teach. This is too farfetched , even for me, where I will entertain an off the wall comment.

However, with that said we have had some interesting conversations lately that don't involve potential/active serial killers, drug runners in Ocilla, WPP's, or a host of other things that truly don't represent Tara or Ocilla.

This is more simple than that. A piece of the puzzle doesn't need to travel to China.

fsbiii
01-15-2007, 09:33 PM
I agree with cp. Maybe I'm an old fart on this stuff, but some of these old topics should be read and studied but not bumped to the top just for the sake of bumping. Streamlining information is more crucial than expanding on theories that have pretty much been extinguished by most, IMO. I don't run the board, so whatever.... but it's quite bothersome.

Brainstorm
01-15-2007, 09:39 PM
Good grief! We don't have Tara's body nor do we have a POI in jail but we have moved past most of this stuff. There is nothing to indicate Tara was abducted to particpate in child abductions or sex slave trade or headed off to China to teach. This is too farfetched , even for me, where I will entertain an off the wall comment.

However, with that said we have had some interesting conversations lately that don't involve potential/active serial killers, drug runners in Ocilla, WPP's, or a host of other things that truly don't represent Tara or Ocilla.

This is more simple than that. A piece of the puzzle doesn't need to travel to China.

ITA concernedperson! I thought this was some kind of joke !!!

I guess it's served the purpose of deflection of HD,though.
JMHO

readmylips
01-15-2007, 10:13 PM
ok so it is disturbing to you. now what? what would you like to do with it? what constructive thing will you get out of it?

maybe if you had been exploring the information a year ago when it was explored the first time you would understand the lack of enthusiasm over paths already travelled. maybe not.

when the day is done, what do you plan to do with your concerns? just wondering aloud.

simply quiet
01-15-2007, 10:29 PM
If it means anything.....we at least have double digits of people viewing this forum. First time in ages I saw 20 people viewing this forum.

Lets keep the chatter up.

:rose: for Tara

readmylips
01-15-2007, 10:29 PM
snip
IIRC, in addition to China we've ruled out Canada, too.:rolleyes:



we've ruled out canada? are you sure? its still on my list! :tongue:

Brainstorm
01-15-2007, 10:34 PM
In Kaths' defense, I will say she had a good list of questions that need answers too. Maybe she could help find some of those before going off to other countries. IMO the killer is right there within 90 miles of Taras' home.

simply quiet
01-15-2007, 10:41 PM
I'd like to think we ruled out Canada and those darn geese that come with it.;) JMHO.

Oh MY........don't even get me started on Canadain Geese

I could go on and on about how NASTY those animals are...seriously there are at least 150 within eyeshot of me that squack and poop all over a park and river that is across the street from me.

Esah
01-15-2007, 10:42 PM
Kath, I admire your willingness to look at things. This one has been beat up a few dozen times, but we never did figure out either. My 2cent theory is that it was written by 13 +- year old. If you read it like a young teenager wrote it, it makes a lot more sense. So they accidentally had their caps key down, but they wanted the little 'o' to actually be a capital 'O'. Still don't get that one. The spelling fits the age as well.

Perhaps the exchange student kept up with Ocilla news somehow and heard about Tara that way. If it was the exchange student.

Esah
01-16-2007, 08:46 AM
I wonder if these two posts in the guest book have the same IP address. They are written very similar in style. They were posted within 14 minutes of each other.



Date: 11/8/2005, 3:26 am, EST
Name: QMIS
Location: CHINA
Number: 895

I AM So SORY TO HEAR ABOUT THIS I HAD IT HAPEN TO ME TOO, JUST SO YOU ALL KNOW I AM NOT A CHINA PERSON I AM NOW LIVEING IN CHINA I AM FROM USA OR.PS I HOPE YOU FIND HER

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Name: C***S D******N
Email: ***********@yahoo.comJavascript required
Location: asheboro nc
Number: 894

I WAS WATCH TV AND SEEN TARA MISSING I AM SORRY FOR EVEYTHING THAT IS GOING ON I WILL PRAY FOR TARA AND THE FAMILY AND GOD MY BY WITH HER AT ALL TIME'S I HOPE YOU FIND HER AND GOD IS WITH YOU



Just a thought.

Results
01-16-2007, 09:10 AM
[QUOTE=kathmandu;8801648]Is this a message board that only wants posts on HD or what? QUOTE]

Hold up there Missy! I have been trying for almost a year to get people to talk about HD. I have sat here and heard everything there is to know about MH, SF, the P's, AV, ML, the list goes on and on. It has taken a very long time to get this board talking about HD and I WILL NOT ALLOW you to come in here and make it into something that it is not! Your post surely proves what I have been saying and that is only one name out of all the POI is a person we know nothing about. Isn't that odd to you? You can do whatever you feel like you have to but don't you dare come in here and tell me that this message board only wants posts on HD. This is the first time I really have seen this board come out and talk about HD. Now, you do what you got to do and I will do what I have to do. Just for the record noone seemed to have a damn problem with MH being ripped apart so therefore I see no problem in HD getting the same. JMHO

The R
01-16-2007, 09:24 AM
I wonder if these two posts in the guest book have the same IP address. They are written very similar in style. They were posted within 14 minutes of each other.



Date: 11/8/2005, 3:26 am, EST
Name: QMIS
Location: CHINA
Number: 895

I AM So SORY TO HEAR ABOUT THIS I HAD IT HAPEN TO ME TOO, JUST SO YOU ALL KNOW I AM NOT A CHINA PERSON I AM NOW LIVEING IN CHINA I AM FROM USA OR.PS I HOPE YOU FIND HER

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Name: C***S D******N
Email: ***********@yahoo.comJavascript required
Location: asheboro nc
Number: 894

I WAS WATCH TV AND SEEN TARA MISSING I AM SORRY FOR EVEYTHING THAT IS GOING ON I WILL PRAY FOR TARA AND THE FAMILY AND GOD MY BY WITH HER AT ALL TIME'S I HOPE YOU FIND HER AND GOD IS WITH YOU



Just a thought.



Looks a lot like Manny's writing style..............

JMO.


R

readmylips
01-16-2007, 09:24 AM
I wonder if these two posts in the guest book have the same IP address. They are written very similar in style. They were posted within 14 minutes of each other.



Date: 11/8/2005, 3:26 am, EST
Name: QMIS
Location: CHINA
Number: 895

I AM So SORY TO HEAR ABOUT THIS I HAD IT HAPEN TO ME TOO, JUST SO YOU ALL KNOW I AM NOT A CHINA PERSON I AM NOW LIVEING IN CHINA I AM FROM USA OR.PS I HOPE YOU FIND HER

****************


Name: C***S D******N
Email: ***********@yahoo.comJavascript required
Location: asheboro nc
Number: 894

I WAS WATCH TV AND SEEN TARA MISSING I AM SORRY FOR EVEYTHING THAT IS GOING ON I WILL PRAY FOR TARA AND THE FAMILY AND GOD MY BY WITH HER AT ALL TIME'S I HOPE YOU FIND HER AND GOD IS WITH YOU



Just a thought.

i had someone check on these. the china post came from china and the other one came from a different place, different poster. apparently this has been looked at before because the person had this information at hand already. i think we can put this particular subject to bed now. agreed? i do say that i think it is good to look at guestbook posts for all the reasons cited but the one in question has undoubtably been examined well a year ago when it was discussed the first time.

PNut
01-16-2007, 09:31 AM
Thanks RML. I have to agree, with learning that the Hornbeck boy MAY have posted a message on his own missing persons website, does make you wonder if indeed this was an attempt by someone to provide cryptic clues. However, I would think GBI and LE would have looked into this - and with your great resources, you have indeed assured us it has. So, while it was possible, it was not likely, such as the case was here. Thanks for ending this debate for good! :)

Esah
01-16-2007, 09:32 AM
Thank you Readmylips, I knew you would know!!

Nite, nite topic.

One2Snoop
01-16-2007, 11:49 AM
Looks a lot like Manny's writing style..............

JMO.


R

LOL - thats exactly what I thought too! JMO

fsbiii
01-16-2007, 12:02 PM
Personally, I think PEDRO is behind all of this. He has already proven he can write in different styles, and he obviously is quite wordly. I bet he went to China to post that message and then hit Canada, rooming with Dudley from Carla's chat night, to post some other nonsense. It's all falling into place now. It is becoming vewwy-vewwwy obwious.

One2Snoop
01-16-2007, 12:17 PM
IIRC a person doesn't need to go to China to obtain an IP number - one can do that sitting in the comfort of their own home in S. Ga. I believe its called a proxey server. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

TIA

Fun4You
01-16-2007, 12:56 PM
China hmm... nope I wouldn't bet my hopes on it too.
You know, in the case of missing nurse and mother of three Audrey May Herron, there was this person who many believed to be her, writing in the guestbook entries about how she started a new life in Canada and she didn't want anyone to look for her any further because she would come back one day if she thought the time was right. Everyone's hopes were up very highly but the dissapointment after that was enormous because the person who wrote the message was someone who played a cruel joke to the family so in Tara's case I wouldn't think too much of it, as I said from the very first moment and I will continue to say it, how much I want it to be different, Tara IMO is a murdered woman and not a missing one.

readmylips
01-16-2007, 03:50 PM
IIRC a person doesn't need to go to China to obtain an IP number - one can do that sitting in the comfort of their own home in S. Ga. I believe its called a proxey server. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

TIA

yes, you are correct but proxies are pretty easy to identify.

dixinites
01-16-2007, 04:16 PM
Well, if this thread won't be deleted, maybe we can just let it die a natural death...I would hate to encourage the "off the walls". Is there a forum for alien abductions?

odette
01-17-2007, 02:36 AM
[QUOTE=kathmandu;8801648]Is this a message board that only wants posts on HD or what? QUOTE]

Hold up there Missy! I have been trying for almost a year to get people to talk about HD. I have sat here and heard everything there is to know about MH, SF, the P's, AV, ML, the list goes on and on. It has taken a very long time to get this board talking about HD and I WILL NOT ALLOW you to come in here and make it into something that it is not! Your post surely proves what I have been saying and that is only one name out of all the POI is a person we know nothing about. Isn't that odd to you? You can do whatever you feel like you have to but don't you dare come in here and tell me that this message board only wants posts on HD. This is the first time I really have seen this board come out and talk about HD. Now, you do what you got to do and I will do what I have to do. Just for the record noone seemed to have a damn problem with MH being ripped apart so therefore I see no problem in HD getting the same. JMHO

WTG Results!! My sentiments exactly.

JMHO

One2Snoop
04-27-2008, 01:25 AM
Bump :rose: